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This thread is to discuss your grievances with gender ideology.
>What is gender ideology? Foundational to transgenderism, gender ideology is the belief that one’s “internal gender” can contradict one’s biological sex.
Gender ideology operates much like a religious cult. There is no scientific evidence that supports the notion that we have an “internal gender,” and yet doctors now medicalize and sterilize children with “transgender identities” who have been groomed by the cult. Anyone who does not reaffirm these delusions is labelled as a “transphobe” in order to discredit any dissenting voices of the cult.
Previous threads:
>>>/ot/2290853>>>/ot/2252408>>>/ot/2191693>>>/ot/2121106>>>/ot/2097274>>>/ot/2037097>>>/ot/1991983>>>/ot/1941872Relevant threads:
>>>/snow/2070564 MTF/TiM general
>>>/snow/2069705 FTM/TiF general
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lmao
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Can't even update my stats on my health app without being reminded trannies exist.
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i'm making a picrew and the idea of adding subtle "terfy"/LGB separatist references in it is so tempting.. i don't want it to be too obvious though, it'll be funny if gendies play my picrew without recognizing any.
i'm so tired of gendie/anti-terf shit in character makers (picrel, that's probably not how the author intended me to use these items kekkkkk), if they can shoehorn their ideology in everything they make, why can't i?
reposting because i realized this post belongs in this thread
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>>>/ot/2349029They don't want to be racist. Please understand.
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Another day, another pedo tranny making news.
#JustTransgirlThings
https://reduxx.info/exclusive-transgender-pedophile-given-lenient-sentence-for-sexually-abusing-his-5-year-old-daughter-after-court-considers-transphobia-in-sentence/
>A trans-identified male in Australia has been sentenced to just over 4 years in prison for the horrific sexual abuse of his own 5-year-old daughter. While the offender was given the pseudonym of “Hilary Maloney” by the court, Reduxx can exclusively reveal the pedophile as Autumn Tulip Harper. Reduxx has chosen to withhold Harper’s male birth name in order to protect the identity of the victim.>Harper, 25, was first identified as a suspect in the production of vile child sexual abuse content after an American pedophile he had been communicating with was arrested in September of 2023. A forensic examination of the pedophile’s devices found that Harper had sent him pornographic images and videos of a young girl via Discord. After identifying Harper as the owner of the account the content had originated from, police in the United States notified Australian authorities of their findings.>On September 15, 2023, police raided Harper’s home in Clayton South, Victoria, and seized his electronic devices. An examination of his cellphone found he had produced 77 files categorized as child abuse material between May and June of 2023. The female child in the materials was identified as Harper’s own 5-year-old daughter.>According to court records, Harper had been in an online BDSM relationship with the American pedophile, who encouraged him to sexually abuse his daughter in exchange for words of validation.>Harper sent the other man a range of images of his daughter, including of her naked, in the shower, and of him sexually posing with her. The court also details there were several videos of Harper kissing the child’s labia, naked buttocks, and licking her anal region. In one of these videos, Harper is heard asking the girl if she “likes it” to which the child clearly responds “no.”>Despite being arrested for the serious crime in September of 2023, Harper was released on bail and was allowed to remain free throughout the duration of the trial.>Harper had shared custody of his daughter with his ex-partner, who only learned of the abuse after police notified her. In a victim impact statement, she spoke of the profound emotional toll the abuse had taken on her daughter, and stated that the child had begun inexplicably “acting out” around the same time the abuse would have started.>During the trial, forensic psychiatrist Dr. Rajan Darjee was called upon to interview Harper and create a profile of his offending. Disturbingly, Darjee framed Harper as though he were a “female” who had been “pressured” by a male into committing the offenses.>“… This pattern of sexual abuse is one which a more dominant male pressurises, manipulates and/or coerces a female who has access to a child, usually her own, to sexually abuse that child and/or to make that child available to him to sexually abuse,” Darjee wrote in his report to the court, characterizing Harper as though he were a “mother” experiencing dire circumstances.>Referring to Harper using feminine pronouns, Darjee wrote: “She felt the man she connected with cared for and was nice to her, and due to her low self-esteem, lack of assertiveness, loneliness, submissiveness and desperation to be noticed and cared for, it was easy for him to pick up on her vulnerability and manipulate her into the master/slave relationship where he took control of her life. He then involved her in sexual exchanges and then coerced her to sexually abuse her daughter and take videos and photos to share with him. She was not inherently motivated by deviant sexual interests or any other motive, except doing what he told her and keeping him happy, to sexually abuse her daughter.”>Darjee told the court that Harper would not need any “specific interventions to prevent further sexual offending” and dismissed the need for sex offender treatment. He also denied that Harper had a paraphilic disorder, and argued that Harper had no sexual attraction to children.>Darjee further described Harper as “hormonally female” at the time of his offending.>Reduxx has also been made aware through a source close to the case that Harper had initially been charged under his birth name, suggesting that he only changed his legal identification during the course of the proceedings. Due to his criminal circumstances, he likely would have had to apply for explicit permission to pursue the change from the Secretary of the Justice Department.>Delivering the sentence on August 26, 2024, Judge Nola Karapanagiotidis highlighted Harper’s “gender dysphoria” and experiences with “transphobia” as mitigating factors, and appeared to accept the defense’s argument that he only committed the abuse to be “validated … as a woman and a sexual person.”>He will be eligible for parole just 2 years and 6 months into his sentence. No. 2352336
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>>2352303
what
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>>2352403>things were way better during hellmassSpotted a handmaiden. Not being able to get the freshest MtF/FtM milk from /snow/ is the opposite of 'things being better'.
Leave.
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>>2352418It's a troll. Ignore it.
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>>2352239>i'm so tired of gendie/anti-terf shit in character makers (picrel, that's probably not how the author intended me to use these items kekkkkk), if they can shoehorn their ideology in everything they make, why can't i?I've been making stories in my head since forever and recently I've started to include anti-trans/genderspecial-trolling elements into them.
You should go all out, since I couldn't (I can't write for shit).
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>>2352429To get you
triggered, so you GTFO faster. It ain't your safe space, kid.
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>>2352435Plebbit bans such things, silly.
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>>2352441>It ain't your safe space, kid.While you were changing your pronouns, I studied the blade.
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>>2352425What is it with Anglos and their caping for pedos?
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TiFs coming to lolcow and integrating poorly instead of going to 4chan is an accidental self own and peak material. Why are you coming to the woman site? That’s not very masc non binary of you, bro dude king.
The way TiFs renounce femaleness but still expect and feel entitled to female solidarity was what made me stop seeing them as innocent wallflowers, they’re obviously not degenerate rapebeasts like your average TiM and they tend to have turbulent backgrounds but they’re certainly no less retarded kek
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>troon infighting over dr. girlfriend
No. 2353490
>>2352963You're right. She was smoking 3 packs/day. She had a feminine (but still smoke-ravaged) voice in a flashback.
Why ahey are they always identifying with fictional characters that they know nothing about? It often makes them look worse (read: honest) than they're intending to present themselves as.
No. 2353548
>>2353525it’s funny and very telling they always think just because we identify as women and are critical of troons that we’re submissive cockslaves who are all hyper feminine.
no sweeties, you’re the ones who were made so uncomfortable in your own body by men that you chopped your tits off and post about your boypussy and ‘corrective rape’ on twitter.
No. 2353583
nonas, i have a question that has been on my mind for a while now, i just remembered it while reading through the tif thread.
do you think most or all tifs are straight? or, more accurately, are most tifs in the west straight? for context, im an eastern euro and this has never been my experience. every tif here i knew trooned out due to a combination of trauma (often sexual), strict gender roles and homophobia. tbf, i've never met a fully homosexual tif but every single one of them primarily or exclusively dates other women/tifs.
i do get why people think "gay trans men" are straight, but again, in my experience every one of them rarely or never dates actual men. are primarily osa tifs more common in america, canada or western europe? it would make sense since it seems that there's a lot more celebration of individualism and more of a need to feel special and stand out from the crowd, meanwhile here not conforming to certain standards means getting hounded for the rest of your life. it also checks out that all tifs here spend lots of time in english speaking groups online, use english slang irl and adopt english names.
and also, it baffles me when some anons here can't believe young girls are shamed and berated for things such as having short hair, not wearing makeup or being not feminine enough in tiny ways. i have no idea what kind of utopia you all are living in where even the most conservative people are okay with that. but also, from my experience eastern euros are pretty neurotic about gender roles, even more liberal ones kek.
can anyone explain to me what's up with all this? every time i hear about hetero women trooning out, having kids after trooning or trooning after having them, tifs getting with actual males or completely normal feminine women trooning i just end up confused. i really can't wrap my head around this shit, is the culture in the west really this different? and i'm not even in the most conservative ee country. sorry for being retarded about this kek.
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No. 2353653
>>2353625thank you for the actual response nona! and yeah, what you said makes sense. what i'm most interested in about them is just… why? i really don't understand why a woman who fits into the roles society has assigned would decide to troon out. that's mostly why i mentioned the east v. west/collective v. individual divide. here these women have 0 reason to want to stand out as different, since conforming is the socially better route to take. but from what i get about more progressive countries/areas in the west is that standing out isn't seen as negatively as it is here, and is possibly even encouraged, meanwhile fitting in is seen as boring and backwards, which would lead these "normal" women to troon. i might be wrong, but i'm missing a lot of the info of day to day life and culture in these countries.
i feel like i'm sperging about this but i'm just fascinated by psychology and cultural differences and i feel like the topic of how trans ideology changes based on region would be an important thing to address in the gc movement since it sometimes feels too focused on a very specific few countries while leaving the rest behind. and it's important to understand why these people troon out and how to fix the social issues that lead them to do it, i know it saved me from fully transitioning myself.
>>2353634don't forget cp!
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Stop replying to the stank pussy pooner retards and go back to posting gender cringe
No. 2353681
>>2353653Ntayrt, but I live in a very trooned out place.
I’ve known a lot of young women who’ve fallen for the gendershits through the years. Blog, but one of my best friends when I was younger was supposedly a gay twinky kid, but it came out that she was actually always a girl and she detransitioned. She’s very hot now in all honesty, and is a personal trainer type of girl so she’s got a great ass kek.
Since I knew her when she was very young, looking back, the signs were there, but we were young enough that no one batted an eye at her being a twink, because she talked like a gay best friend
and even dated actual gay boys which is funny but also kinda weird to me.
I remember the gay ones she dated theorising but it wasn’t crazy to think she was just a boy.
For a lot of them it’s a combination of the fact that it’s kind of encouraged in a lot of circles to be different, but also sexual trauma and uncomfortability in being a woman. In writing about my friend it made me come to a realisation actually, there was a LGBTQIAGBJAEU youth organisation here that threw like actual parties for kids?? not wholesome shit, actual parties.
That was very popular when we were that age, she was active in it. The friend group that it fostered was a community ranging from 13-18, and the older ones actively encouraged the younger ones to troon, pretty vile shit. A lot of the tims from that group were called out for being pedos and rapists.
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I'm in a fairly big online group for a niche music genre that is not known for attracting trannies but for some reason the admin has recently
>Began posting trans rights memes multiple times a day
>Kicked anyone who asked what those posts have to do with the music genre
>He makes constant ethel cain posts despite his music not ever being relevant to the genre
>Posts memes multiple times a week about banning "transphobes"
>Invites tranny musician that was on MtF thread once who does not make music relevant to the group
>Admin eggs tranny on and encourages him to post selfies and more retarded tranny memes
>Troon shamelessly ebegs in the group for his other tranny bandmate/romantic partner to get surgery
>Group goes from being a place to find small band tour dates, recommendations, and memes about a specific niche music genre to tranny meme central
>An incredibly talented artist in the scene who is actually female and fairly well known was invited to the group
>She makes a song slightly differing from usual style
>People start harassing her so badly she has to leave
>Admin is still posting all day worshipping mediocre tranny musicians who aren't even in the scene
I'm so tired
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>>2352319>Eligible for parole in 2 years and 6 monthsAre you completely fucking shitting with me right now?
What is with the law not locking up pedos for life? I don't care what the fucking reason is. Hell, I don't even care if this child abusing psycho was a real woman. That kind of crime warrants a life sentence.
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Anyone got some terf/gc wins to post?
I'll start, 2 years ago I had one single terf friend and that was it. Now I have 1 more gc friend in person, my original friend has added 2 more terfy friends who I know online, my mom is peaked, my sister is peaked, my (male) boss is peaked and he peaked my other male coworker.
I went from feeling surrounded by woke people and having no one to talk to, to now being able to be openly gender critical and talk shit about troons with friends, family and at work! Spoiler for ai slop, tried to make a terf shiba artwork kek
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>>2354253
No. 2354264
>>2354239I hope many women realize that trannies don’t care about female rights because recognizing sex based oppression is transphobia to them, you can’t even draw a pussy without
triggering them.
No. 2354276
>>2354264Like try talking to a TIM about it and they’ll have a full breakdown. And if you are allowed to talk you must hereby swear first that trans rights are first and foremost important and bla bla.
Look at how they react when you speak about FGM and also how TIFs are treated kek.
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>>2354228yes nona i feel like i’m really good at peaking people honestly! i live in a place with a lot of troons, so those people are already technically aware though. most women with a thinking brain on their heads will eventually open up to challenging what they’ve been told.
i guess i’m just disarming enough and careful with my language to not
trigger anything, there are certainly ways you can go about explaining your thoughts to people who
know but don’t want to admit it that usually work.
sometimes it takes a little while but when you reach it with a friend it feels like a definite win!
i’m not talking to any friends irl at the moment but i think i’ve successfully ‘peaked’ at least 2 women over time, plenty of scrotes but i don’t really care about them No. 2354282
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>the troon calling others a fake victim
damn the horsepiss really kills their brain doesn't it
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>>2354270
>>2354274
dilate(report and ignore)
No. 2354298
How funny is it that our resident baiter posted softcore yuri, as if we'd cry and puke after seeing anime girls kiss. Retarded TRAs and liberals need to act as if they're up against ISIS tier fundamentalists because otherwise they have no reason to throw tantrums.
>>2354228All my female friends and acquaintances are peaked, except two (upper) middle-class munchie TRAs, but even those women have peaking moments before beating themselves back into the acceptable opinion. I know way less TRAs than i did before, they seem less brazen or they're idiots who are perpetually late and out of touch when it comes to trends. It feels great to be the first person they can comfortably voice their opinions to
No. 2354312
>>2354306Don’t go full on
terf mode, but use mode mild , basic facts. The average person doesn’t think that scrotes can be women or viceversa. I personally like bringing up sexuality and how we must both respect those who are uniquely attracted to sex while respecting identity too, because both “deserve to exist” kek.
Once I see how they react I can get more into it and bring up prison, sports, shelters and how women must also be protected.
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>>2354228I’ve successfully peaked two (level headed, good friends) people that tried to “fix me” when I started being more outspoken and losing people over it kek. They stayed to debate me, try and “de-radicalize me” and couldn’t win. One identified as non binary at the time, ended up desisting, and our friendship has grown so much tighter as a result! Recently also got to a male who was groomed by an adult TiM as a teenager and used to coddle the pedo a lot when recounting his sexual abuse, which pissed me off (say what you will about scrotes, I think he didn’t deserve being groomed and then having to coddle the feefees of his predator)
People can be too smart to be gendies or gender allies, anyone with decent pattern recognition can be snapped out of it if you just give them a place where they can think without snuffing any questioning out with thought terminating cliches, but you have to pick your battles carefully- my bestie was not like your average enby tif, she’s same sex attracted, was very gnc and level headed, found inconsistencies within the community dumb even while trans-identified, and didn’t try to deny her sex, so it was just accelerating what was already there, and the other two were males who were goaded into “cracking their egg” while young, so they had experience with being creeped out by TiMs. I’m not going to try to change the mind of a genderpunk xe/fae or an incel to trans rapehon. Those just have to crash and burn by themselves.
Most neutral people are swayed in your favour when they see how the average TRA reacts to any confrontation, too. You’re not gonna change the rapehon’s mind but the people around you two are going to notice that he immediately jumps to sexual and violent comments and it’ll plant little seeds of questioning that they can look back upon in the future. Operation let them speak is incredibly effective, it even works in males kek
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>>2353583Yes, most tifs are straight women who convinced themselves that being straight is bad and boring, some with slight bisexual tendencies (I think lesbian tifs are a minority) many tifs date other tifs to fulfill their "gay man" fantasy, "super queer couple" or because they don't know how to live with men.
Now the reasons you mention for transitioning don't apply to all tifs and vary depending on their upbringing and country of origin and also that all tifs seem to have untreated emotional problems.
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>>2354303ayrt and for fucking real kek. it never stops being infuriating how wilfully ignorant so many people are though.
>>2354312i hate to say it but also troon pickmes like blaire white can help for retards as well. he uses xitter speech so it’s easily digestible for them
No. 2354370
>>2354362Blaire doesn't peak anyone. He just preaches to the conservative choir. The group that wants us to be private property without access to reproductive healthcare also hates trannies.
Peaking leftists is more important imo since they are more subconsciously aware that women are oppressed than conservitards.
No. 2354379
>>2354371Butch lesbian who are on T are rising, those are one of the
victims of the “transgenocide”. I met 3 butch women and 2 trooned out.
We need to save butch lesbians.
No. 2354546
>>2354370>Blaire doesn't peak anyone.No he really does! I've literally peaked some very woke girls using him. They refuse to listen to "bigots" so when it's coming from a mixed
poc transwoman they see themselves as "below" his opinion on the woke social scale and suddenly they're willing to listen. He's actually a fantastic entry point to starting to peak someone. Of course you need to continue the conversations and push them to think a little further, you can't JUST make them watch him but he's been such a great resource. Especially since he's really popular and has trans followers, it means even when they scroll to read comments they suddenly get faced with the fact that many more trans people agree and they're not all woke lefties.
No. 2354549
>>2354376This is definitely true imo, esp. in places that haven't been infected by modern online troon ideology
as much and which were very homophobic to begin with.
No. 2354582
>>2354379This is heart breaking. Lesbians seem to be the biggest
victims of the troon agenda because women are not allowed to be masculine in any way.
No. 2354702
>>2354673>it all boils down to tearing down women even moreThe crazy thing is that feminism was really getting somewhere so men literally just… invented an entire new form of oppression out of nowhere. It's almost like they're flexing on women about how they can do whatever they want to us and we will either follow them willingly or put up with it. They can tell us that up is down and black is white and men are women, and people will go along with it no matter how nonsensical, harmful or sick it is.
So now feminists get distracted from important women's issues because they have to fight a battle on a brand new front, they have to expend all this time and energy on convincing the world of something everyone fucking knows and has always known from the beginning of human existence!! We can't ignore it because it does cause real material harm, but we never had to worry about it a few decades ago. And to add insult to injury they force team with actual minority groups and mimic the language of activists, so they're essentially using our own fight for human rights and fair treatment against us.
It's just wild. I'm in awe of how supremely evil, cruel and EFFECTIVE the entire phenomenon is, the devil works hard but truly men work harder. My only solace is that a bunch of men are cutting their dicks off and that is very funny and well deserved.
No. 2354733
>>2354702ayrt i read your post out loud to a friend because you explained everything perfectly.
she said
>when we're extinct soon aliens will find this post and hang it in a museumKEK
edit:
>if this is really the only form of intelligent life we're fucked No. 2354861
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>t4t
>Minecraft
No. 2354893
>>2354702I feel like basically moids kind of went along with women's rights until women wanted rights to be in a relationship with another women. Moids freaked out about because they knew another woman would be able to easily replace them in every single regard (aside from sperm donation) and that's when they decided to unleash the trannies and shut it down.
The sooner women collectively wake up and realize that men instinctively want to dominate us, that it's in their lizard nature and no "dysphoria" or whatever the fuck can change that, the better.
No. 2354945
>>2354905the director and everyone else in korea obviously didn't give a single shit about that storyline but all the fucking retards ate it up as per.
oh cool, a man in a country where every man has to enlist is a man that was in the military, so brave of him! masculine rage is a beautiful thing!
it could paint them in the worst light ever but if the character is being handmaidened for or has a single redemption moment they lap that shit up like they're starving.
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Thoughts? Supposedly will be active since day 1 of the new administration.
No. 2355190
>>2355138Democrats have made the job so easy for him kek. I’m not a burger, but I think that Trump barely keeps a fuck about women’s rights, he is after approval. Having said that, I hope he puts action in his words, people will start being openly real after this I think.
The trannies are going to seethe about “transgenocide” though kek. The truth is that they bit more than they could chew, if they had just sticked to “I know I am x, but to deal with my mental illness I have to live as y” instead of forcing people to bend reality and safety measures for scrotes (because let’s outright say it, it’s a MRA movement , where men can cry oppression and play
victim) the more neutral people wouldn’t have converted into transphobia aka sanity. I’ll respect your retarded pronouns , but I won’t take retarded brainwashing as being an “ally”..
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I know Emilia Perez is a very bad movie but I just love how much it is making trannies seethe only because it's an accurate representation of hons (and they cry about it because muh bad representation):
>Bad gangster guy wants to transition to start a brand new life. Very suspicious how he wants to change his entire identity as a criminal.
>Abandons his kids for a while to live a new life.
>He transitions, he's now a good person and a beacon of peace. Nobody ever questions him on his past mistakes, which include several criminal offenses.
>He's now a woman, so of course he's a good guy now! Don't you see that transitioning makes you a brand new different person, therefore all the bad stuff you did before is erased?
>Only now that he's "female" he feels remorse about kidnapping and disappearing people out of this world, has a "change of heart" and makes up a charity financed by his gangster shenanigans (this is incredibly disrespectful to the real victims of crime that have spoken badly about this movie, but alas)
>Still he doesn't do it alone, he mostly sends his handmaiden lawyer minion to do his deeds
>"I'm Emilia Perez, a woman like anyone else!"
>His son clocks him and says "you smell like my dad and I hate your perfume", this is treated as a sweet moment in the movie. Troons mad because they think injecting hormones makes them smell female
>"Emilia" gets mad at his wife and starts choking her violently, making light of how he's still male and still aggressive despite transitioning
>In the end he just dies. Handmaiden lawyer now takes care of the kids
>Vaginoplasty song is actually hilarious because it just shows you how many fucking surgeries they have to go through to have a chance to "pass"
Picrel is the guy that plays Emilia, his real name is Carlos Gascon.
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>>2355226he looks like this, both in the movie and real life
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I wish there was a version for TIFs.
No. 2355477
>>2355138Has anyone been seeing tranny virtue signaling about this on social media? Because I haven't, not even on tumblr or Facebook (where I am friends/mutual friends with a lot of nonbinaries and troons) (I'm crypto and live in a shitlib state). Kek, is the tranny wave really dying down? A few years ago this would have taken storm on social media but now troons don't even care. I didn't vote for Trump but I'm slightly happy about this
not that happy since I know women's rights and healthcare are going to be royally fucked, but.
No. 2355638
>>2355116very cool that they only call out the women who actually need hrt for menopause and not the trannies taking it for the coom
“how dare these evil women treat their medical condition with a drug that harms animals!!!! but trannies neeeeed horse piss pills and we can’t upset them so that’s fine”
i fucking hate it here
No. 2355699
>>2355477I haven't seen anything about this at all and I follow a lot of troon cows. Maybe they're more worried about the Tiktok ban, or they haven't heard about it because it's buried under piles of useless posts about how to survive the Trumpocalypse while existing as a danger haired person of gender.
But I've noticed a huge decline in action for trans things. All the petitions for trans rights get way less reblogs and a lot of them don't follow through, if you look at the signature to reblog ratio it's obvious that it's shared to virtue signal.
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>>2355226Trannies get so angry when they see hons on screen, they all somehow have deluded themselves into thinking they all look like cutesy frail and feminine """women""" (read: femboys and fags) instead of the truth: they're all ugly hulking men with male pattern baldness wearing wigs and makeup to play pretend.
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>>2355894>>2355226Not even this movie portraying the troon as a born again angel that regrets his criminal past (and gets redeemed out of it) is good enough representation for them. It's like squid game 2. They hate everything that reminds them of the reality of being male, even if those characters are supposed to be good little saints that can't do anything wrong.
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>>2356215>they are saying the executive order is just like nazi laws against jews etc… They are looking for ways to leave the country etcSame old shit as always
I wonder if this will make a lot of people detransition since they won't reap any benefits from it anymore, or if they'll double down in protest and become more insane about it
>>2356324Kek I can't believe we got two very realistic portrayals of troon on female violence in 2024. I hope this peaks people
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Kinda ironic to see the trannies coming here to being laugh at while they post stuff like picrel.
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DON'T LET YOUR DREAMS BE DREAMS, BRIAN
No. 2356434
>>2355138Seems too good to be true, especially coming from trump. I wanna be hopeful, though. How have I yet to see any trannies pretending they're
victims of a licheral genocide, though? They were throwing way bigger mantrums over a lot less last time trump got elected.
>>2355226I saw the clip where he pushes and chokes out his ex wife and went "of course". It's kind of incredible how trannies and handmaidens' cognitive dissonance of thinking trannies can do no wrong accidentally makes for an accurate portrayal, and they're shown as the violent, entitled, misogynistic moids they truly are. OITNB did the same, they truly thought the tranny storyline was sad and compelling when in reality he: >committed credit card fraud to get fake tits
>ruined his marriage and relationship with his son>beat up a woman in prison with his moid strength, then cried and sobbed twansphobia when a bunch of female prisoners rightfully ganged up on the man and taught him a lesson No. 2356441
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"What do you mean it was a way to be homophobic? Old cultures were woke! Yt people ruined it"
No. 2356450
>>2356404>>2356423>Ok. Where are they? Where are the normie trans?They're gonna claim you probably didn't even notice they were trans because they passed.
>>2356429Oh, look, here's one claiming something similar. You do know that most people ITT have encountered the " seemingly offline normie troon" you're talking about, and most anecdotes prove they end up being just as misogynistic as every other troon once they open their mouths, right? It's almost as if the entire ideology of thinking a male oppressor should get the right to identify into the sex they're oppressing is inherently bigoted and
sexist! A man who thinks sexist stereotypes makes someone a woman instead of simple biology cannot, and never is, a decent person. Especially when %99 of them discovered their "womanhood" through porn.
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>>2356429Nah this shit's fake. All of them are too mentally ill to be normies.
I only ever encountered one sane troon and that was in 2015 before the real troon contagion explosion, he was a sweet gay guy and kept to himself. Every other troon I've seen is insane with they/them pronouns whoring themselves out to the world and saying misogynistic shit like there's no tomorrow. Even if a normie trans did exist, they're like 1 in a 500 chance.
>>2356450>They're gonna claim you probably didn't even notice they were trans because they passed. Of course they say shit like that.
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>>2356429Oh please, there are tons of real videos about them acting like misogynist and beating women or crying if they get "misgendered". If there are trans people who "live a normal life", then I'm sorry to tell you that the loud ones are the ones who give the collective a bad name, and as long as they're protected like the real
victims while being homophobics and misogynists, people are not going to be nice with them anymore and not for supporting Trump, but because they're tired of not being listened to give them a loud voice (women being called "period person", deal with Tims and a long etc).
No. 2356479
>>2356434>Women beating up the troonBased
>>2356471>I'm sorry to tell you that the loud ones are the ones who give the collective a bad name, and as long as they're protected like the real victims while being homophobics and misogynists, people are not going to be nice with them anymoreThis.
No. 2356525
>>2356471Exactly, and if these "good normie troons" exist, why are absolutely none of them denouncing the vast majority of rapists and misogynists that make up the trans community? Why do they claim "it never happens" or "even if it happened, it's not a big deal and they probably only did that because someone was terfy"? If they're not like other troons, why do they all still either defend each other or minimize eachothers crimes?
>>2356479>Damn, I told y'all he still had his man strength kekkk. For context, this happened after he gave an innocent woman a black eye. Reminder that the real life actor, Laverne Cox, published a sob story about the poor twanswomen forced to serve their sentence in male prison's and the poor prisoner tranny in question had brutally raped and dismembered a little black girl whose age didn't even make it to double digits.
No. 2356580
>>2356525>why are absolutely none of them denouncing the vast majority of rapists and misogynists that make up the trans community?>why do they all still either defend each other or minimize eachothers crimes?This is something everyone needs to remember when they think about "normie" troons.
>published a sob story about the poor twanswomen forced to serve their sentence in male prisonCould you please link it?
No. 2356603
>>2356580Here it is
https://www.thepinknews.com/2014/08/28/us-laverne-cox-aplogises-for-reading-letter-by-a-trans-inmate-convicted-of-rape/>The letter was written by Synthia China Blast. In 1993, Blast was found guilty of the rape and abuse of a 13-year-old girl named Ebony Williams.>According to 1993 news reports, the girl was held captive in the apartment of Blast’s accomplice Carlos Franco.>Blast repeatedly slashed and raped the girl. Franco then killed the girl by breaking her neck.>Both Blast and Franco, who were members of the Latin Kings gang, are serving life prison sentences.>Cox says she was unaware of Blast’s crime when she agreed to participate in the project.>The Sylvia Rivera Law Project removed the video at Cox’s request, and Cox posted on Tumblr about the incident.Of course the hulking moid wanted everyone on earth to pity the poor widdle imprisoned trannies, but when it comes to correcting the fact that he victimized a literal child rapist, he swept it under the rug and only acknowledged it on the most dead tranny social media he could think of so no one would notice what he did. Remember: no good trannies. The piece of shit didn't even donate to the
victims family or any fund to protect women and girls from male violence. If the roles had been reversed, trannies would DEMAND the woman donate to some trans charity or some ugly man's boobjob GoFundMe like they always do.
No. 2356704
>>2356340omg i was going to post about that slapping scene in particular because it was so obvious what they were trying to do with that
>hes literally the same as women! so he can hit them!not to mention that its korea and they dont respect women and this isnt even tranny shilling, its just pandering
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>>2356860>We should make bigots be afraid of trans people>Link relatedMy sides
No. 2356903
>>2356860Stupid troons are so useless. They will shoot themselves or shoot up a school when they should be shooting the global elite.
You would think with how mentally ill they were they would fucking do that.
No. 2357131
>>2355190Not a burger either but
>I think that Trump barely keeps a fuck about women’s rights, he is after approvalOh absolutely. And it's so, so easy because all he has to do is be sane and not display the extreme, deliberate, sophisticated misogyny of the left and center-left. His retarded lines about women are nothing next to housing dangerous male fetishists in prisons mostly populated by women who grew up with appalling abuse. Caring in the slightest about any kind of violence enacted by minority men, acknowledging our sex, this is all it takes for people to think any camp is better than leftists. They completely deserve this loss, now i hope every TRA becomes irrelevant and a pariah, let them have a taste of their own medicine
>>2356465Kek same, one nice gay guy and every other TiM happened to be an AGP of some kind (autistic, rapist, etc) or a walled bitter gay scrote. The best they can do is dress normal and not rub their fetish in your face but they still do creepy shit like sign up to women's clubs and go to lesbian bars for that sweet euphoria boner.
No. 2357360
>>2356429You freaks always whip out this exact line whenever an SSA person talk about getting sexually harassed or even assaulted by trannies and their handmaidens, or when a detransitioner talks about their regrets to medically detransition and getting pressured into it.
Who gives a fuck if normal ones exist when they're not doing jack to police the rapey retards in their midst? Clean up your bullshit crew instead of expecting this nigh-mythical unicorn to be the sole consolation prize for people traumatized by your ideology's proponents.
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>>2356903Nah, the elite is their sugar daddy. For all troon crying about 'life saving gender treatment' being unavailable or restricted it took a heterosexual Chad to actually do something about the Big Pharma/medical insurance cabal. Actions, not words.
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Do you think trannies also blame JKR when they finish the toilet paper in the middle of pooping?
No. 2357451
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>>2357443
Fuck off, tranny.
No. 2357459
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>>2357453Or perhaps stop being a gross, mentally ill pervert first, tranny.
(troonfoiling) No. 2357468
>>2357460Because she's a woman who gained billions through honest means and spends her money helping other women and her influence to peak women.
If she entered American politics trannies would seethe to death because she'd be either Democrat or independent.
No. 2357481
>>2357472And they’re arctic as if we shouldn’t care, “don’t mind mind these males you stupid bitch! Think about these other males!”
When it’s the same picture. I hate trannies and their handmaidens.
No. 2357488
>>2357480It's ok
nonnie, it is pretty late for us both after all (assuming based on average user nationality). Good night and have another based GC day tomorrow!
No. 2357510
>>2357488thank you and to you too,
nonnie! i was feeling a lot like
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I think it's the same tranny invading the Amerifag thread right now:
>>>/ot/2354818 No. 2357543
It would be nice if troons or troon supporters could have more dialogue out of TRANNY GENOCIDE fearmongering. I don't want the 20 to 30 somethings in my workplace to drop dead just because I don't think the loli hentai enjoyer is a real and true and honest woman are you kidding me. The only reason I know any of this is because every single one of them purposely made their porn likes known. I get to laugh at anyone who lets their porn addictions ruin their lives and troons are not exempt kek
>>2357316I can't wait for the hordes of people just quietly opting out of their oppression and quietly taking their wigs or their pronouns off. ENJOY KEK guess which underclass of people can't opt out
No. 2357547
>>2357545IIRC, the annual murder rate of trannies gets BTFO by the annual murder rate of women and girls and by miles. Trannies are arguably THE safest form of "marginalized" people in the world even WITH Brazilian moids killing them left and right, and you can use statistics to back this up. There is no tranny genocide if you just do the math.
They are lying.
No. 2357563
>>2357534They can't even correctly identify that anyone who hates trannies isn't some terminally online basement dweller. They want to so so so badly live in the fantasy that transphobes are ugly poor seething losers behind a computer screen that whenever someone even claims to have the majority of bad experiences directly with trannies they get confused, there's no easy buzzword to use or retarded accusation they can throw at you. You can't even say pedophile rapists should die including trannies without them getting on your case kek. That's why they make all these boohoo documentaries about tranny locked up for aggravated rape no. 345893485797 and how you should feel bad for him because male prison isn't affirming and he doesn't get any estrogen injections.
but god forbid if you misgender the rapist tranny. calling him a he will make his dysphoria flare up more than raping women and children with his male penis because conveniently dysphoria never gets in the way of that
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This put a smile to my face, the high levels of coping and stress put on these trannies necks is hilarious. Trump isn’t even going to do anything about troons unfortunately but watching them be more worried about their fetish masks than anything else is what brings me sweet joy
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https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/defending-women-from-gender-ideology-extremism-and-restoring-biological-truth-to-the-federal-government/Some of what Trump's EO actually says
>Across the country, ideologues who deny the biological reality of sex have increasingly used legal and other socially coercive means to permit men to self-identify as women and gain access to intimate single-sex spaces and activities designed for women, from women’s domestic abuse shelters to women’s workplace showers. This is wrong. Efforts to eradicate the biological reality of sex fundamentally attack women by depriving them of their dignity, safety, and well-being.
>“Women” or “woman” and “girls” or “girl” shall mean adult and juvenile human females, respectively.>“Female” means a person belonging, at conception, to the sex that produces the large reproductive cell.
>“Gender ideology” replaces the biological category of sex with an ever-shifting concept of self-assessed gender identity, permitting the false claim that males can identify as and thus become women and vice versa, and requiring all institutions of society to regard this false claim as true.
>“Gender identity” reflects a fully internal and subjective sense of self, disconnected from biological reality and sex and existing on an infinite continuum, that does not provide a meaningful basis for identification and cannot be recognized as a replacement for sex.
>Agencies shall remove all statements, policies, regulations, forms, communications, or other internal and external messages that promote or otherwise inculcate gender ideology, and shall cease issuing such statements, policies, regulations, forms, communications or other messages. Agency forms that require an individual’s sex shall list male or female, and shall not request gender identity. Agencies shall take all necessary steps, as permitted by law, to end the Federal funding of gender ideology.
>Federal funds shall not be used to promote gender ideology. Each agency shall assess grant conditions and grantee preferences and ensure grant funds do not promote gender ideology.
>The Attorney General and Secretary of Homeland Security shall ensure that males are not detained in women’s prisons or housed in women’s detention centers, including through amendment, as necessary, of Part 115.41 of title 28, Code of Federal Regulations and interpretation guidance regarding the Americans with Disabilities Act.
>The Secretary of Housing and Urban Development shall prepare and submit for notice and comment rulemaking a policy to rescind the final rule entitled “Equal Access in Accordance with an Individual’s Gender Identity in Community Planning and Development Programs” of September 21, 2016, 81 FR 64763, and shall submit for public comment a policy protecting women seeking single-sex rape shelters.
>Agencies shall effectuate this policy by taking appropriate action to ensure that intimate spaces designated for women, girls, or females (or for men, boys, or males) are designated by sex and not identity.The TL;DR of this is that a woman is now defined as a woman and not a mentally ill man in a dress. Men are not permitted in women's single sex spaces. All government funding of pro-troon gender ideology will stop.
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you will all be free in just 30 days
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All that tranny Trump seething deserves its own thread on /snow/. Something like 'Pro-/anti- Trump Internet nutjobs'.
No. 2357696
>>2357432>I've never met a trans person in my entire 20s and I'm a mid 90s millenialHow? I'm in the same age range and I've met 10+ troons in online hobby spaces, and that's just the ones who have been in the same groups as me. I don't even go out of my way to meet them too, literally just existing online especially in any nerdy hobby community will make you encounter them and almost every group I've been in ends up having at least 1 or 2 troons and that stacks up over the years.
I guess if you aren't nerdy maybe you wouldn't encounter them as much but even irl my boomer relatives have told me they've met troons despite living in a small town. Also, troon shit IS part of women's rights, they're literally trying to take away female spaces and protections for women.
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>>2357694
No. 2357708
>>2357543>hordes of people just quietly opting out of their oppressionIt's wild that troids ever thought to co-opt oppression. Oppression doesn't simply mean "bad thing", the implication is society needs oppression to keep functioning as it does. Women, workers, slaves are groups who fit this definition. Sexual minorities and other groups are not oppressed but rather disadvantaged. It can be pretty tragic, and caused by an inability to oppress them, like disabled people who are isolated and cannot access many things
because you can't easily extract value out of their work and body. Being oppressed can be better than being at a disadvantage, it's a matter of whether your suffering is necessary to maintain an economy or not. Many people are oppressed and disadvantaged at once.
Troons though? They obviously don't qualify for oppression because we do not need an underclass of male porn addicts running around in shein clothing. Most are not disadvantaged in any real way, and can easily opt out of their self-inflicted problem, unlike disabled people. That's how easy they have it. The only troons who "ascend" to disadvantage are kids and adults who suffer physical impairments, i'll assume most are women because roids seemingly fuck you up much more than horse piss does. TiMs are practically exempt from this, only a minority of homosexual troons will have ever tasted true disadvantage. TiMs in STEM fields who do not shower and get made fun of once a month for being a fetishist might be the least disadvantaged group ever, they are akin to inbred pervert aristocrats who throw tantrums in front of a captive court
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>>2357700
>Trans people who get bottom surgery should be able to use opposite sex spaces
No, they shouldn't because tranny criminals still have male-pattern criminality and pose danger to female inmates. Same goes for any sex-segregated service. They are built around the needs of women, not men.
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>>2357704
The ones with this sign.
No. 2357725
>>2357523>second postAs if both things weren't possible at the same time and by two different groups of people. Hell, sometimes even by the same group of people.
>How can group A (which I support) be behind everything you say when it's actually group B (which you support) that's doing all the evil in the world (shit that I'm cherrypicking)? Checkmate Christians!!Literally just going "NO U!!!11" at rightoids and refusing to exercise critical thought, self-reflection and self-awareness. And apparently there are only two sides in every argument, trannies (the good guys) and everyone else (literally Hitler). Troons have such a childish black-and-white view of the world.
>>2357543>>2357551>>2357555The average person takes the word "genocide" very seriously and troons take advantage of this. Those normal people don't know that the tranny definition of "genocide" is that they want to hold everyone else accountable for trannies committing suicide over being too mentally ill to understand that they'll never be something they weren't born as, or worse, killing themselves after transitioning, being in physical agony for years and realizing the truth. "Genocide" is just a weak excuse to guilt trip the whole world into indulging them. If they kill themselves because they want to be seen as members of the opposite sex but they're not fooling anyone, that's not anyone else's problem but theirs for pretending to be something they're not and making it their life goal and whole (fake) identity.
Fuck society for making up oppressive rules for women and even for men and treating both sexes differently, yes, but what troons cry about is not unfair gender roles, they cry about the fact that people don't recognize them as the opposite sex when they perform those bs gender roles. If anything, troons and TRAs are contributing to the oppression of more GNC and non-heterosexual people, as well as women in general, by upholding the oppressive rules and stereotypes of society. They are more "genocidal" than people who simply don't want to call a male a female, not to mention how they openly threaten and wish harm to all women who oppose their ideology or doesn't handle them with kid gloves.
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>>2357708>TiMs in STEM fields who do not shower and get made fun of once a month for being a fetishist might be the least disadvantaged group ever, they are akin to inbred pervert aristocrats who throw tantrums in front of a captive courtIT trannies must be my most hated tranny subgroup. Court eunuchs who do the bidding of the elite.
No. 2357730
>>2357713This. Even men who were chemically castrated used implements to rape their
victims instead. It has very little to do with genitals and everything to do with being born and raised male and the entitlement and ego that stems from that. Men are responsible for over 90% of violent crimes and over 90% of rapes/sexual assaults, him cutting off his pp and pretending to be a woman is never going to change that. If anything, a man who gets such a drastic procedure done and is that out of touch with reality is likely even more unhinged and violent than the average man.
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>>2357710>Always MTF. If you want to be meet Tifs, you go to starbucks.Funny how that 'oppression' works in action. I also bet all the troons in government you met had wives and children.
>>2357712Open a sociology textbook, sweetie.
>>2357722What's stopping you? Zuck is already sucking Trump's cock - you won't be banned.
>>>/ot/2343556 No. 2357734
>>2357699That sounds awful. I was lucky at my university classes I didn't see them as much, but even then one of my friends knew a troon and would talk about gender shit despite not being a troon himself. I wish I was that person too, I try to avoid troon shit but it feels near inescapable when any group I join even when it doesn't have troons yet ends up having someone troon out later.
>>2357710They really infest any community that's more nerdy, it sucks. Already had to deal with retarded men in those communities and now it's that but also retarded men pretending to be women and vice versa on top of it.
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Did any of you ever experience ''TIF'' thoughts, despite never wanting to troon out? i like reading the tif thread because i have so much in common with some tifs, yet i never wanted to troon out, even if i am a zoomie and had friends who trooned out when i was in hs and i used to be a super cooomer who used to fill the void with gay porn and wanted to be a gay guy to date cute gay moids, i still never wanted to troon out. Do you think you exclusively need body dysmorphia to troon out? but then how do you explain those ''femboy'' tifs that are extremely feminine but with he/him in video, are they just attention whores as opposed to other tifs who are actually mentally ill? i am so confused.
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>>2357730True that. Pedophiles remain a risk to children for life, even if they undergo chemical castration. Their proclivities to abuse are only partially modulated by hormones.
>>2357739Back in the day girls enjoyed BL and role-playing in peace. The tranny agenda is simply using multi-level marketing to branch out to all susceptible groups, like female nerds. The specimen from the TiF thread were just easier to 'sell the product to' than you.
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>>2357742
>a man who cuts his dick isn't opressor
Let me introduce you to this cow.
No. 2357751
>>2357739i always found it retarded a little bit which is why i never went through with it thankfully. i can see why the super young girls get into it, it makes you different, fit in with the boys if the girls bully you etc
and yes, i think you do need exclusively body dysmorphia because that’s what they think gender dysphoria is.
also yes, the ones who do all the they/he shit are just attention whores who want to be different, but all of them are in a way. the corrective rape shit is just so funny with how obvious it makes it, they’re just admitting how much trauma they have as a woman and want to be stealth in public but show off their vagina and boobs on reddit because they’re so far removed from their femininity, they’re just afraid of being touched and don’t have another outlet because of how depressed and obtuse they are for trooning in the first place.
No. 2357758
>>2357739When I was a kid I got similar feelings to what TIFs seem to experience, yes. I feel like the reason I didn't troon out despite having all the risk factors (anime, socially isolated, autistic, terminally online) is because I'm just not retarded enough to be that delusional that I would unironically think I can become a man kek, I don't know how else to explain it. I also actually consider other people around me, I'm not homophobic and I don't define people by sexist stereotypes or what they wear, so I think that helped.
Also, whether or not you need that to troon out depends on the troon, seems like some do it for that and others troon out just for the fetish. I remember seeing troons having slapfights about that years ago even like
>>2357744 said, with some saying you need to have it to be trans and others saying you don't.
No. 2357763
>>2357729>men pull out this card to pretend to be oppressedNTA but I believe moids are predisposed to sociopathy and narcissism. Many of them do the same when they're forced to go to therapy, they pretend they're actually working with the therapist to treat their issues, but in reality they're just learning the therapist's language so they can manipulate others (including the therapist) later. It can be especially dangerous if the therapist is female.
Also reminder that nobody sees TIMs as "women".
Everybody knows they're men and that's why they get "treated like women" (you don't want to make them angry enough to beat the shit out of you like the mentally unstable males they are), in addition to not wanting to be rude to a poor mentally ill retard, especially in this day and age where you can get severely punished for "misgendering" thanks to rich male trannies creating their bullshit orgs to infiltrate and influence every aspect of society.
It's clear as day that nobody sees TIMs as women and TIFs as men when you realize that TIMs always get treated better than TIFs, they're always the ones in media, they're the ones with more privileged lives that they got for being male, they get defended by trannies and TRAs more, etc.
>>2357745>The tranny agenda is simply using multi-level marketing to branch out to all susceptible groups, like female nerds. The specimen from the TiF thread were just easier to 'sell the product to' than you.NTA but this is an excellent way to put it
No. 2357765
>>2357739Yes. I still have "TIF" thoughts, even though I'm fine with being a woman now. I think the common link is having aspects of AAP attraction, which is something you seem to have. I think part of why I'm tomboyish is my AAP. Nothing wrong with it. I think it's kind of fun if you're self-aware about it.
I used to have self esteem problems and considered trooning out because I thought I was ugly and my interests weren't "feminine enough" (whatever that means). Fortunately by the time I had started thinking about this, I was already on 4chan reading moids plainly say that they don't consider TIFs as men, so I have already had had delusion-proof experiences.
Anyone can troon out if they have either low self esteem or just plain old delusion. Being a "real" trans person is not a real thing like being a real woman.
No. 2357782
>>2357763>NTA but I believe moids are predisposed to sociopathy and narcissismalso nta but i’ve been thinking about that a lot lately and i completely agree. almost every woman in my life has talked about how even the most well meaning of men just don’t really listen to women, in one ear, out the other.
they kinda dont respect us inherently or anyone around them kek.
some of them will listen to a few of your points, digest some of it, but will always take what you say in the wrong way somehow and start shitfighting with you over stupid things, they’re all emotionally immature, in one way or another.
that’s why TIMS are always fucked, they’re normal emotionally stunted porn sick men, that should just be referred to as crossdressers and do it in their bedrooms, that realise they can latch on to the fact that they can ‘transition’ to this protected-class dreamland where they get to jerkoff to cp and furries all day without being called a man ever again or held accountable. sometimes to attract ‘queer’ women too. there are obviously some less porny and degen ones but all of it comes down to the same kind of thing.
HSTS show they’re men with the misogyny and woman face, I can tolerate them more because they probably won’t rape me but my moid friends instead
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>>2357782>to jerkoff to cp and furries all day without being called a man ever again or held accountable.>pic related colinarmisI don't understand why they can't even be slightly criticized for 'transitioning' because of pedophilia and literally wanting to be a little girl. what is the actual reason. why are there only a handful of fucking websites that you can say that actually the man who transitioned because of hentai maybe isn't a woman deep inside and his endless issues stemming from the fact he isn't a female child are self inflicted and autopedo in origin
No. 2357796
>>2357775i’m the non amerifag and that sucks, i’m sorry.
amerinonnas please keep us updated with the reality of everything happening, i’m so curious. i’m actually surprised to see he did anything tbh, i really didn’t expect that in particular, but a win is a win
No. 2357811
>>2357739>i used to be a super cooomer who used to fill the void with gay porn and wanted to be a gay guy to date cute gay moidsSame but I did want to troon out, in addition to wanting a cute relationship like the ones in yaoi I wanted a dick to dominate moids with it, but thankfully I was told that I was just a masculine/unfeminine girl, which is normal, and that one day I'd find a straight boy who is my type and likes me for how I am, and I understood this perfectly. The reason I became obsessed with getting a "sex change" was that I was terribly uninformed about the meat tube surgery, I just knew it was "possible" to give a woman an artificial penis. Later I found out that having a real, functional dick as a female is impossible (I was underage and dumb). All in all I just wanted a dick to have power over moids kek
>Do you think you exclusively need body dysmorphia to troon out?I think people with body dysmorphia are more prone to getting to the "bottom surgery" stage. Even though I wanted a dick, I didn't hate my female body, and thankfully I've never been raped or molested so there's no major sexual trauma either. Sexual trauma with or without body dysmorphia likely increases the chances of getting the full surgery.
>but then how do you explain those ''femboy'' tifs that are extremely feminine but with he/him in video, are they just attention whores as opposed to other tifs who are actually mentally ill?Both are mentally ill imo. The "femboy" fakeboys are probably traumatized in some way, since women may become hypersexual or degrade themselves to "regain control" of their own bodies/sexuality as a coping mechanism. But it's possible that a severe porn addiction combined with the influence from fellow terminally online teens who are exposed to porn and tranny propaganda 24/7 might result in this behavior without that kind of trauma.
>>2357765>I think part of why I'm tomboyish is my AAP. Nothing wrong with it. I think it's kind of fun if you're self-aware about it. I'm glad to see another on here who feels the same about it. It's an "oops" moment for me because I'm against gender roles but I still assign gendered meaning to clothes but what can you do at this point? I grew up like this. As long as you don't troon out it's harmless, at least we're self-aware and know it's contradictory. But tbh I've been trying to curb the AAP a little and to change the way I see clothes to be more neutral. I think it's harder to do when everyone around you is committed to seeing clothes, hairstyles, etc. as male or female. My mother in particular loves saying that I'm trying to be a man, when I'm not and all I did was have a certain style that's focused on coolness and comfort rather than being fuckable in the eyes of men.
No. 2357840
>>2357444>Gender is a nebulous social constructThere's literally nothing "nebulous" about the calculated oppression of girls and women. Only one sex deals with oppressive gender roles and expectations. This "let's separate sex and gender! you can be a male woman!!" tranny mindset is what got us here in the first place. In order to abolish gender, you must acknowledge it has
everything to do with your sex and there's nothing nebulous about it.
>>2357439>Jk Rowling is an idiotWhere are all you "not like other trannies" coming from kek. She was an idiot back when she pandered to troons, she's now unfathomably based. go back.
No. 2357863
>>2357840nta. thanks for saying that, i wanted to sperg about this earlier when the tif was posting. gender and sex is the same thing, you can be fucking gnc without being a man or enbie, for all i care chop your tits off, but you are a woman and that’s completely okay.
you are fine being a more masculine women if that’s what you are, mature adult women won’t judge you for that.
nothing strips you of being a woman and you should be proud to be one, even if you aren’t feminine at all, after all, the TIMS still get to use all of their male privilege, while the TIFS have nothing.
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>>2357761ntayrt but yeah that’s the troon with big tech contacts and is autistically fixated on taking down KF. He’s gross and into degenerate BDSM and furry shit. His husband’s wedding look is one of the most unfortunate I have seen.
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"Protect gay kids from insane parents and social media"
No. 2357971
>>2357645this just is annoying. Like as usual, rapist/pedo Trump gets in office and is gonna get rid of MORE womens rights and what happens?
Oh, right!
Women get shamed and trannies get sympathy. It's always about shaming women and virtue signaling for the troons who are told no matter how much they mutilate themselves they are biologically male.
These assholes have no idea what real oppression is like.
No. 2357984
>>2357981Sane.
I wonder how these 4 years will turn out so far kek
No. 2358001
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>>2357958Some dresses are only for women even if dresses, robes and skirts that fit masculine men (in a good way, nonetheless) exist. Wearing something made for women makes them look like that one direction guy, terribly wrong and off-putting. That's why the type of clothing matters, a dress can be an universal concept for males and females, but they are made with gender in mind and some of them only fit women's curves (and constrict them too). I want people to accept this and stop playing into gendie delusions.
No. 2358006
>>2357739>TIF thoughtsThose bpdemons do NOT have a monopoly on being a fujo
>Are the feminine women who want to be called he/him just attention whores?Yes. It's fucking obnoxious but some women are addicted to getting attention.
Literally all TIFs I have met take everything way too seriously, are turbo dramatic, and/or have legit trauma they refuse to face head on so they ruin themselves.
No. 2358008
>>2358001This. There is masculine and feminine clothing for sure. A man wearing feminine clothing will look more faggy/AGP but that doesn't mean a man can't look masculine in a properly designed dress/skirt.
Just like how women can look butch in certain clothes but can still look feminine in properly designed pants/suit
No. 2358016
>>2358008>A man wearing feminine clothing will look more faggy/AGP but that doesn't mean a man can't look masculine in a properly designed dress/skirt. This, that's why I'm tired of the "clothes have no gender" shit. They absolutely do from the moment they get conceptualized. They make girl's clothes more constructing that boy's on purpose.
Just let women wear whatever they want. That's all I ask for. No gender shit has to be included in that conversation.
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>>2358001God I hate this, he looks so fucking disgusting. Men could wear dresses and look sexy but they never so that, they always insist on wearing tight fitting dress meant for bosoms and hips. There's an untapped market of men's dresses that could be designed
>>2358009If anyone can wear anything why to men look so disgusting in women's clothes
No. 2358025
>>2357792with the way they always compare themselves to black people they must realise that black people despite being an entire race never got defended as hard as trannys, and they’ve been copping shit since forever.
why is a group of actual degenerate mentally ill retards more of a protected-class than black people as a whole in the current society we live in? we
all know why!
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>>2358009>there's nothing wrong with wearing any type of clothing regardless of who it's supposed to be intended for. No. THIS is the rethoric that tumblrinas pushed onto the public in the 2010s and why men feel so
valid when wearing female shaped dresses, because "clothes have no gender so I can wear my spinny spinny dress hehe!" It's a fetish, you're validating their fetish by telling them a dress made for women is not gendered therefore they could also wear it. It's retarded. Some dresses are made with the female body in mind, that itself is biology, men don't have our curves not even with surgeries. If men want to wear dresses, there's a plethora of male shaped dresses and skirts they can choose from and look less ridiculous. Why do they always want to wear the girly ones?
No. 2358031
>>2358018>Why do men look disgusting in womens clothes?because men wear womens clothes to objectify women. It's a fetish for them.
Women don't get "gender euphoria wetness" from wearing flannel or a suit. If men could be normal about dressing feminine it really wouldn't be a problem.
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>>2358026They also look stupid and ugly in these clothes regardless of ~societal expectations~ and ~patriarchy~ because the clothing isn't designed, tailored or meant to fit their bodies. I don't understand how this ever became something controversial or up for discussion. Even in the 90s when moids wore dresses, they were custom fit and "male dresses" (and they still looked dumb to most women)
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>>2358018>If anyone can wear anything why to men look so disgusting in women's clothesThere are some men who manage to wear womens clothing that don't look disgusting. I think it just depends on dressing for what suits your body, there's always been alternative men who know how to look good in androgynous fashion. Gendering clothing is retarded, and only helps trannies and conservatives.
No. 2358043
>>2358038Is this supposed to be an example of men looking good?
Try someone who isn't an AIDS patient.
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>>2357739>Did any of you ever experience ''TIF'' thoughts, despite never wanting to troon out?Yes, I never trooned out because I was too shy to even draw attention to myself and had no friends online. But I fit the archetype to a T. I struggled with internalized misogyny a lot as a teenager, but I'm glad I never trooned out. I would have likely become more and more unhappy while taking hormones. But would make excuses never to detransition. Thankfully I am now proud of being a woman and don't see it as shameful. I recommend everyone to read this essay and for lurking TIFs or ex-TIFs to cope with unhappy emotions in a healthy way. Like art or exercise.
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>>2358018>If anyone can wear anything why to men look so disgusting in women's clothesthey can look cute if they arent fat or ugly. They key is that they gotta be fit. Just like how fat women dont look good in most clothes but a good looking woman can rock a sack of potatoes.
No. 2358060
>>2358009>Clothes do not have a gender, because it's fabric and stitchingFabric and stitching designed for a specific sex in mind. Clothes for men will have wider shoulders, and clothes for women will consider space for breasts and hips. Not every man has broad shoulders, and not every woman has curves, but most do, and clothes are absolutely designed with a
sex in mind, idiot.
No. 2358069
>>2358060nta but by pushing that narrative you are basically doing what troons what. Remember that their fetish is that they are doing something ''taboo'' if we took the taboo out wearing female clothes AGPs wouldnt get off to it.
>>2358063the vast majority of women fuck ugly old troglodytes so their opinion is shit by default. My point wasnt to get you to fuck you, but to see any attractive person can look good in anything.
No. 2358070
>>2358055This outfit looks AGP.
Can you try to find a man in a masculine dress please?
No. 2358076
>>2358038This shit still looks disgusting, did you really think posting ching-hon Jeffree star would prove your point?
>Nooo, you gotta validate ugly moids in dresses or youre helping trannies and conservatives!! We've already coddled trannies to hell and back and it didn't turn out well for us, try something else.
No. 2358078
>>2358060no one's arguing that clothes aren't designed with sex based proportions in mind, we're arguing that those characteristics shouldn't stop people from wearing them regardless, because that suppression manifests itself as delusions about identity, and we're still dealing with those ramifications today as those delusions bully their way into female exclusive society. Why are you so terminally brain dead that you can't even follow along to finding the point of someone's argument?
You signed off that post like some smug LSA fag.
No. 2358084
>>2358038>Gendering clothing is retarded, and only helps trannies and conservatives.But clothes are gendered, that's reality. There's a female and male section at the store,
you're welcomed to wear whatever you want, nobody is denying that, but designers will always think of female, male, or the rare genderless case when designing new clothes. Trannies need to be shamed when wearing things intended for women. They go beyond crossdressing and they make wearing female clothes their whole personality, but sure clothes have no gender. Biology is absolutely thought of when making clothes, why do you think boxers and briefs have a dick pocket and female thongs don't? Unless they design those items for the opposite sex. Then in those cases male thongs have dick pockets and female boxers don't.
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>>2358069>pushing that narrative you are basically doing what troons whatnta but if not wanting to see feminized moids in stretched lycra bodycon or "fitted" schoolgirl uniforms makes me a handmaiden for troons than consider me picrel
>>2358075>dresses are by default feminineI don't think moids should wear dresses because they look stupid in them but kilts exist and you sound retarded not acknowledging that
No. 2358093
>>2358038I'll give you this: I don't think crossdressing is always a bad thing, but moids tend to make it look gross and disgusting on purpose. Only guy I can think of NOT making it disgusting is Mana from Malice Mizer. But at the end of the day he's a guy wearing feminine clothes.
Anyway, most clothes look good on women but men never look good wearing a short skirt and tights found at the clearance section of H&M and that's always what they reach for, let's not kid ourselves here. They're retarded and can't help but look disgusting, because it's not about looking good for them, it's about making their sexual fantasies come true. That's the difference between your average troon and someone like Mana.
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Only Sonic men can get away with wearing dresses.
No. 2358107
>>2358088Men now than ever are less shamed and even encouraged to wear feminine clothes and they still call themselves femboys or troon out. You need to realize it's men that are the problem, no matter how much you tell them they're
valid to wear a dress, they're going to make it retarded. It's the same "we need to validate men's feelings!" thing. We validated them, now what? They're as violent as they have always been.
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>>2358075Not true, they just don't design dresses for men often. You could argue he's wearing pants but without the pants I think it would be sexier quite honestly…
>>2358088Even if you removed the gendered tag, women would still wear stuff that flatters their frame and agps would copy it despite the disparity. Some tops are made to look good on tits. If you wanna remove that it's women clothes and just make it "tit friendly clothes" we are going dangerously into "birthing person" territory
No. 2358112
>>2358078wearing clothes that dont fit your proportions looks bad, makes for a bad outfit
ergo, men in clothes designed for women's bodies look bad in them
No. 2358113
>>2358069Samefag, but you seem to be widely misinterpreting the taboo aspect of agps. Crossdressing hasn't been taboo in decades. That's
precisely what got them to troon out in the first place. They need to take it a step further and larp as women. The new taboo is invading women's spaces, forcing people to use female pronouns despite looking clearly male, flashing their genitals at women's toilets while everyone is clearly uncomfortable, winning prizes and competitions meant for women and girls. Being "just" a crossdressing faggot is no longer enough, that's why they need to appropriate womanhood. This won't go away if we normalize crossdressing because it was never about that, it's about the thrill of getting away with being a sexpest, oppressing women and violating our boundaries. Do you also believe the retarded "we just want to pee!!!" excuse too? think we should normalize gender neutral toilets too?
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>>2358115picrel but with moids wearing stupid dresses, skirts or tank tops meant for women (not cut for their bodies, designed in any way to look good on them)
No. 2358125
>>2358104Is it possible for someone to be
this retarded? Read
>>2358113 .
>"If you had given trannies an inch, they wouldn't have taken a mile!!!!"Are you forgetting we already did, you tranny cocksucking autist? Women worldwide praised and encouraged moids to be GNC, and this is how shit ended up, with trannies raping us in our own prisons and bathrooms
No. 2358133
>>2358129The reason most clothing looks the way it does in the first place is to accentuate features of each sex, which are different. How the fuck
are you calling people autists and want everyone walking around in futuristic space uniforms from the 60s?
No. 2358134
>>2358114>If we took the sexualization aspect out of clothes(aka the gendering) Maybe "we" don't need to take out the reality that female and male clothes exist in this world and simply shame troons into feeling like the gross sex perverts they are whenever they reach out for the tight short skirts at the garbage bin. Coddling them does nothing. They're the ones sexualizing normal clothes whenever they put them on, and it's not our fault they do. Trust me, even something like wide female pants and a loose pink sweater is enough to
trigger their "euphoria" aka get an erection. Maybe they're the problem.
No. 2358139
>>2358104Who forbade men in the first world from dressing like faggots? Are you implying one or two anons here calling them ugly lead to trannies becoming the male supremacist woman hating psychopath buffalo bills they are now? classic TRA
victim blaming kek.
No. 2358146
>>2358110But if he wore it as a dress and took the pants off it would be so sexy
>>2358117He's ripped under there. I don't like seeing muscles in tight clothes, it doesn't work, i like the reveal when you lift up and he's fucking BUILT
>>2358114The things men sexualize and women sexualize are different, the clothes are only accentuating it. Mens clothes don't often plunge or reveal a lot of leg or cling to their ass cause it's not really doing anything for me. Womens clothes clinging to tits is sexy not because of the clothes, but because of the tits. The clothes are accentuating the sexy body underneath. That's why it doesn't look sexy on a flabby middle aged guy, the body underneath is not sexy
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>>2358136Anons are able to put her stupid arguments to rest immediately because she's wrong. It's nice that you have each other though
No. 2358158
>>2358152No, YOU'RE claiming moids wouldn't want to skinwalk women if crossdressing wasn't taboo and I'M proving you wrong, retard. Men are interested in skinwalking
US and they'd still do it even if men crossdressing was the norm. Dragqueens and troons aren't just dresses and glitter, but trying to skinwalk our inherently female sex characteristics too.
No. 2358160
>>2358132when have
>dresses, skirts or tank tops meant for women (not cut for their bodies, designed in any way to look good on them)been ackshually for moids anon? Was there some time in history where clothing was tailored/cut to fit a woman's proportions but moids had breasts, smaller shoulders, wider hips, shorter torsos and longer legs (on average) and were able to wear them too? Because I think you mean
male tank tops, kilts and tunics. Clothing specifically cut and designed
for the male body. Like what we've been yelling into the void
No. 2358162
>>2358155>Also, victorian=the 80s now? ?? are you stupid you dont understand they are two different examples?
>were dresses gender neutral? was underwear gender neutral?look at how sexualized female dresses and underwear are then ask yourself again why men underwear doesnt look like that. Put that deathfat hamster you have in your brain to work and think about why that is.
No. 2358172
>>2358162Are you too retarded to understand I was asking you about the specific decade you mentioned and not the fucking victorian era? especially when it's not even true and boys did not wear skirts back then? KEK.
I think you need to put your atrophied autist brain to work for once and come up with a counterargument instead of word salad. Let me know when you're able to formulate a proper thought if you haven't gooned your brain to death yet from all the sissy porn you're consooming, that is.
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>>2358162wow look at how ~sexualized~ the average pair of panties look in any department stores. I guess when women aren't going to
literal lingerie stores like Victoria Secret, there are more options.
If your complaint is that they're cut too short, there are full brief style grandma panties you can wear to your tumblr-feminist hearts content anon
No. 2358187
>>2358165And you're still wrong, agps would find a way to agp even if we all dressed in boring gray gender neutral robes. The taboo part is violating women's boundaries, not just "tehee these are GURL clothes and they make my pp hard!!". Female clothing isn't always
gendered, it's built for a specific sex in mind because male and female proportions are different. Even when female clothes aren't sexualized, they're still cut and sized differently. If moids didn't have that, they'd still be sexualizing and skinwalking our breasts and hips like they already do. If the clothes were enough fuel for the coom: why do they take hrt and get boobjobs?
No. 2358189
>>2358176>wow look at how ~sexualized~ the average pair of panties look in any department storesmeanwhile male briefs look like shorts, lol. You proved my point, thanks
nonny.
No. 2358199
>>2358194Can you not fucking read? You're just baiting this anon and being retarded
>>2358187anon you're being baited by morons and repeating yourself over and over
No. 2358218
>>2358212NTA but
>No one said men shouldn't wear skin eitherKek this sounds like we're debating gender roles within a cult
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>>2358206the reason they post that is because they know terfs are cowards like that who hide their beliefs and may be still attempting to cling to good people like a parasite because they’d be alone if they voiced their beliefs. you don’t sound zen.
(bait) No. 2358230
>>2358212>men don't careYeah no fucking duh men don't care about how they look, that's why an anon took precious time out of her day to try and explain how
women set those parameters for men and by relieving them of the responsibility to present themselves as attractive/stylish/wearing clothing that fits, you're helping the worst parts of the patriarchy and being a handmaiden yourself
No. 2358241
>>2358237And then man wearing this shit is better?
>>2358055Come on
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>>2358201The only reason people believe this is because form-fitting and revealing clothing has been memetically imposed on women so that they visually fit the feminine gender role under the patriarchy. Men's clothing trends towards the practical while women's clothing is decorative, impractical, and often sexualized. But I want a damn world where men can be decorative for the benefit of women. Saying that moids just naturally don't look good and have nothing about their bodies to accentuate just feeds into the idea that they should be valued for things outside of their looks and that they don't have to try to look nice. Nobody naturally gravitates towards these weird ass cuts of restrictive clothing, it's all made up and enforced through gender roles.
No. 2358262
>>23582531. This is not crossdressing, you're offtopic
2. These are literally just shirts cut in half to show off abs. Still not comparable to women's crop tops, which are tight and with a cleavage to show off tits.
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>>2358264wtf sexy is not an exact synonym for nudity?? kek this is why so many chubbos are wandering around my city in crop tops and booty shorts, good god
No. 2358272
>2358264>clothes being sexy is about showing skinYou're cooked
>>2358266The goalposts remain because this is a top cut in a way to accentuate a MALE body, not putting a man in a top meant to flatter women. "Muh muh goalposts!!!!" go fuck Harry styles in that dress then
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>>2358261>>2358262So if you found a top like this at the store, would you call it unisex? Even if it was an XXL? It doesn't show cleavage nor is it tight around the chest. The answer is no, because it's cropped. Nowadays crop tops are considered feminine, but they weren't in the 80s. These things change and are made up. There's no
inherent "female clothing" or "male clothing" style because gender roles are social roles based on sex. And these roles differ across time and society.
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>>2358271Meanwhile
>Victoria Secret, reality, early 90s No. 2358289
>>2358286Harry Styles / Gerard Way upthread. Or do you think that's totally
valid and not gross at all?
No. 2358292
>>2358107nta but that's a part of the issue. either men are shamed for dressing feminine or they're yaas kween-d to oblivion by libfems, there's very little middle ground. if the majority response to a moid wearing a dress was "ok", i don't think there'd be as many troons or femboys. a large group of them are attention seeking cluster b faggots so they thrive on these extremes.
a bigger issue that causes this and will continue to cause it however, is the automatic sexualization and objectification of women and anything related to women. short skirts, high heels, sheer tights, crop tops etc. all of these are almost always fetish objects for moids because they're retards who want to fuck the concept of femininity. there are some moids who i've seen dress in more "modest" and desexualized clothes but they still look like fetishists and it's precisely because of what i just said. very very few moids have actually worn feminine fashion and made it look normal on them, and that's primarily because they're actually passionate about fashion itself and don't get sexual gratification from it. it reminds me of that one essay, "there is no unmarked woman", literally all women's clothing is tainted by the fact that it's
women's clothing. the only way i can see to solve this is by creating a feminist utopia, which i don't know will ever happen, but the second best would just be to not give these moids any public attention, either positive or negative, online or irl, it'll at least weed out some of the worst ones.
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if moids want to be fashionable they should just dress in well tailored old timey clothes.
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>>2358297Damn this is actually kind of fucked up.
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>>2358310>>2358308retard this image is a meme not an example of fashion
No. 2358327
>>2358165>get off to clothing firstNo, clothing is a gateway drug but it's really just one aspect of AGP fetishistic fixation.
>>2358136>if nobody gave a fuck AGPs wouldn't get off the tabooThey would get off to getting surgery, imitating feminine voices and mannerisms, etc. It's endless. Pointing out that clothing is gendered and tight garments meant to flatter the female form don't look as good on men, doesn't create AGP. This "if you point out a problem you create it" accusation is a shit cope TRAs use against us and you've absorbed it. Some of them think pointing out AGPs and their deviant sexuality creates more angry rapey AGPs. Should we stop talking about it then?
No. 2358330
>>2358316Men will always see dresses as feminine, and saying "clothes have no genders" will not stop them from assigning genders to clothes. At this point only handmaidens sat that, men aren't going to sexualize women's clothes any less just because someone says that lol. If anything it gives them more ammo because then wearing anything becomes
valid.
No. 2358331
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>>2358318Basically yeah because I don't need to adopt the way men like to see woman to sexualize men. This is sexy on men. I guess i need to see him in booty and a plunge neck like a man wants to see a woman, or I'm trad? Fuck off, you are brainwashed
No. 2358338
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>>2358326Fuck off I am tired of seeing moids in their ill fitting ugly modern fashions. Your faggoty remarks are why hot men dress like shit.
No. 2358355
>>2358332>They SEXUALIZE it.Oh my god. They sexualize it. Should we call an ambulance? Are you one of these people who doesn't understand the difference between sexuality and objectification? Okay, ornamental over comfortable clothing can be understood as a kind of objectification, but this
>ermagaaaaad it's sexualizationBullshit is straight out of 2014 tumblr kek
No. 2358367
>>2358357The only psyop is you suggesting this
>>2358055is flattering or sexy on a man and if we normalized it men wouldn't skinwalk women anymore
No. 2358384
>>2358380they're not a chaser for acknowledging some men look decent in traditionally feminine clothes. By that rhetoric chaser-chan title also applies to
>>2358253 for showcasing men wearing literal whore tier crop tops by today's standards and cooming over it.
No. 2358400
>>2358393Okay a group mf stupid moids invading the gender ideology thread and posting ban evasion memes- did you think no one saw that?
>that wasn't me! i'm a totally different retard who simply agrees with the tranniesEveryone knows this is where idiot scrotes who have "hypnotized" themselves into becoming troons, believe they can do the same to women by meming fags in dresses (but can't because women
don't want moids in dresses and never will)?
No. 2358423
>>2358400Genuinely how mentally unwell do you have to be to not realize that there’s multiple users on this website and come from different sects of gender critical belief. Some of the users you think are “mf stupid moids defending tranny’s!” are actually just classical radfems who are trying to separate gendered clothing from sex so that it prevents troonism.
I can tell you’re a newfag by your typing style and by the way you couldn’t tell that it’s other women who disagree with you, who disagree with oppressive and rigid gender structures. Not a fucking “4chan brigade of moids or tranny’s or chasers.”
integrate, now.
No. 2358448
>>2358436Your scrotefoiling is incredibly annoying. Please shut up. Also kek at you not denying you’re a newfag. This is why you guys should shut up and lurk moar instead of jumping in arguments and offering your opinion. If you integrated yourself you’d have seen these takes before instead of blindly assuming there’s a moid brigade happening.
You’re like the dumb anons that report lesbians as scrotes on here. There’s a culture here, everything that isn’t “ugh I love men! I love pink! Ow tranny’s are so super jealous of me because of my feminine wombanlyness” Isn’t indicative of there being moids.
Genuinely, I mean this from the bottom of my heart. Go back.
No. 2358449
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terf civil war
No. 2358455
so we really are having a hours long infight about whether pants are for boys and dresses are for girls or not, in a gc anti gender ideology feminist thread?
>>2358320 is right
No. 2358456
>>2358434the usage of the meme has nothing to do with how the guy looks or is dressed. It tends to be used when you post an opinion in the middle of other discussions, and your opinion is kinda generic but you're saying it like it's revolutionary, but you're aware so you're kinda making fun of yourself. Imagine Nona stood up in a room full of arguing nonas and said her comment ("i think moids should wear
well tailored old timey clothes").
No. 2358457
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>>2358454>tranny lieSee picrel
(shouldn't you be busy reporting me from your different vpn locations and multiple devices or is it coom time again already?)
No. 2358473
>>2358455no way i came back to almost 400 new posts in here and its still about the same fucking thing
edit: i was browsing on phone a few hours ago so probably closer to 200 but still. shut up
No. 2358490
>>2358483Wrong. Masculinity and femininity are both made up. Sex is the only real thing.
Go back and shut up.
No. 2358501
>>2358483 not this retard again she's been going on with this for months in different threads
that's not what feminine and masculine mean
No. 2358503
>>2358485Report me faggot, anons have tried for literal hours to explain the same fucking concepts, to the moid-brained retards over and over. The only reason it
triggers you so much is because it's true. Do you know how I feel when someone calls me a moid/MRA? I feel nothing because it never happens, except when an obvious tranny does it anonymously because I don't agree with his stupid opinion
(infighting) No. 2358523
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Why do they always put themselves at the forefront? Maybe they should push it away instead of letting it fall on top of everything else.
No. 2358524
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when will jannies get rid of the tif once and for all(derailing)
No. 2358534
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>>2358523I still hate the fact that this is the "socially acceptable" pride flag to use. They have to be front and center on
everything. It's literally encroaching on the actual rainbow flag
No. 2358544
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Why would I care about men, even if they're GNC and not troons? I only care about GNC women. Why would we owe men anything? They can wear a dress but people can judge them all they want too
>>2358518Gender is not real but they make clothes based on sexual dysmorphism differences between men and women (aka biological differences), what is there to not understand
>>2358523Kek I actually like the idea of them pushing the troon movement away, it's a nice way to read this image
No. 2358556
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>>2358534That's the outdated one, this is the new one that includes intersex people (they now share almost a third of the space even though only roughly 1% of the population is intersex)
No. 2358567
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>>2358556What the fuck does a genetic disorder have to do with gay marriage, Jesus Christ
No. 2358568
>>2358549Please learn to read, it says that gender is not real, and that clothes are made based on sexual dysmorphism aka biology. The paragraph doesn't say that biological differences are gender. It stars with "gender is not real" and ends with "biology". I'm not going to spoonfeed you further, use your brain please
nonny dearest
No. 2358623
>>2358591>>2358605NTA but clothes are real,
fashion is a social construct, and dress codes are a byproduct of fashion. Please go be a derailing retard somewhere else.
No. 2358626
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>>2358599>>2358605>>2358591Let's all just go back to wearing drapes and animal skin all over our bodies. Maybe that's the only way to defeat trannyism.
No. 2358642
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>>2358626Unironically yes please. Go back far enough in history and most fashion is at least partway unisex. Anons posted tunics earlier and those are a great example because both men and women wore tunics, the main sex differentiator back then was length (men only had tunics past the knee if they were clergy or rich asf. picrel is a king's coronation tunic which would have gone to the ankles or floor)
No. 2358718
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Clothes have no gender this is why picrel is so hecckin valid, he's just wearing a non gendered outfit, this is natural to him, what do you mean he shouldn't wear a pink skirt ?? Pink skirts are obviously genderless and anyone can wear them, you bigot. Let's not judge him too harsh nonnas, clothes are a societal construct after all. He's such a GNC king, maybe if we all validate his feelings while wearing a dress he won't troon out too much. What do you mean he won't accept himself as a man? But I just reblogged 4 different quotes about clothes having no gender on my tumblr, do you think maybe… do you think maybe he thinks this is a fetish?
No. 2358725
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>>2358642Even now many local outfits from different countries have unisex vibes. Desi nonnies will recognize how panjabi/kurti for men and women can look similar but with different fits to account for body shape differences between male and female.
No. 2358729
>>2358222>the reason they post that is because they know terfs are cowards like that who hide their beliefsThat's not even true, they post it to signal to other woke people that they have The Correct Opinion, they're all in an echo-chamber telling each other how good and woke they are, and how yucky and bad the evil enemy is.
Just because people are terfs/gender critical doesn't mean they're social media warriors or advocates, like that twitter guy clearly is for troons. And most of us know that you simply cannot talk to people in a cult. We know they won't change their minds, and that they get off on the thought of yelling rape threats directly at a
terf. It's a literal waste of time to engage at all. We win nothing by going "actually trans women are NOT women" to these people, they're not gonna go "omg you're so right", they're not gonna engage with an open mind and hear you out. All that will happen is that they throw yet another tantrum. So we screencap and show our friends and laugh at them behind their backs, which IS very zen!
No. 2358740
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>Hire a tra-
Fuck no. If I want to hire someone is because I like the art, not because I have to save a trans artist.
No. 2358748
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A bunch of worthless retards they all are.they all sound sane and compassionate,definitely!
No. 2358762
>>2358753you're the only sane nonna in this thread. Genuinely thank you, the rest of them are committed to screeching at troonism but aren't actually trying to understand why it's happening or trying to strategize ways to prevent it from happening more.
Jk rowling literally said she hated how gender oppressed women, and these neoconservative handmaidens want to force little girls in sexualized women's clothes because its the "correct" gendered clothing for them. They'll inspire girls to troon out to escape the trap of forced femininity, instead of dismantling gendered fashion aesthetics. A haircut and masculine clothing at a young age would've prevented so many TIF's. They just wanted to be comfortable but according to those anons, no "that's for boys."
No. 2358841
>>2358523>gay rightstrannies hate homosexuality and anything that has to do with same sex attraction. they call gays and lesbians genital fetishists and don't like it when bisexuals talk about wanting to fuck the same sex over a tranny.
>freedom of expressionunless they deem it transphobic then they silence you
>women's rightsthey hate real women and always put an end to any discussion that has to do with the biological reality of being female. they call women terfs just for us talking about our periods.
>free love"you aren't allowed to reject trans people while dating otherwise you're transphobic and also a racist"
>free speechjk rowling did that and look what it got her kek
>democracythey don't even let lesbians date biological women without calling her a
terf>freedom of religionunless it's the religion of worshiping trannies
>modernitythey think they are modern for pushing extreme gender roles on everyone while claiming to be above gender roles pushed by the right. lol, lmao even.
>literacytrannies can't, don't, and won't read, they'll just scream transphobia. also they love to ban books and any written words that they feel is even slightly gender critical.
ironically, by getting rid of trans rights, all other rights will become safe again.
No. 2358874
>>2358856This. Gender is not real. If clothes "have an intrinsic gender," then submissive behavior has an intrinsic gender, dominance has an intrinsic gender, intellectual aptitude has an intrinsic gender, hobby preferences have an intrinsic gender, careers have an intrinsic gender, and so on. If anons don't want moids to argue that women who aren't behaving meekly and submissively are "acting outside of their intrinsic gender," then you can't argue that males are behaving outside of their "intrinsic gender" because they're wearing a dress. Just because you like wearing a dress, and hate when moids wear a dress doesn't mean gender roles still don't harm women more than it harms moids.
Kek they want every privilege they enjoy in society nowadays to be gender neutral except for the clothes, literally unserious. Get rid of all of it, and lower the amount of troons, simple.
No. 2358875
>>2358847>criticizing anything AYRT is being critical, learn to read
>>2358753>GNC men and fetishistic AGPs who get off to being ''humilliated'' by wearing ''female'' clothes to troon outHandmaidens gave plenty of support to troons and "GNC" (as if clothes had any weight when it comes to actual nonconformity), it did nothing but embolden them. I need you to understand describing a state of affairs doesn't perpetuate it, in our current cultural context, in a society saturated by misogyny and fetish porn, no amount of 'it's okay to wear dresses boys!' will reduce AGP. The best thing that can happen is men's fashion expanding organically, like how pink is now a normal color for men after decades of taboo. But simply stating something doesn't change reality.
>>2358852>but alot of it starts at fashion and aesthetic repressionNo. If you studied paraphilias you know it's not as simple as shame=fetish. It's just not. Men don't develop fetishes because something is repressed on an aesthetic level. Men develop fetishes as substitute for genitalia and to deal with certain anxieties that are specific to males' psychological development. A fetish stands between them and that anxiety and gives them
more pleasure than regular sex, hence why they get addicted to it, in a sense. If tomorrow we put pictures of women's feet on billboards to counter the shame associated with a foot fetish, it would just serve as wank material for foot fetishists. We can't make it illegal for moids to wear dresses and it'd be pointless anyways, but we don't have to pretend we can solve fetish with empty nice affirmations. You're very naive about male sexuality, fetish isn't a fun little practice men do to spice up their sex life, it's not a quirky fantasy, it doesn't go away if you take the taboo factor. Fetish is an extremely powerful drive and removing the taboo will be received as encouragement (in our current context). It's unbelievable this has to be explained on the Gender Ideology Hate Thread of all places.
No. 2358902
>>2358877Assuming you're replying to my (deleted and edited) post, there are tons of studies by the likes of Blanchard on fetish. Starting with him is a good idea, it's very obvious when you read his findings that fetishistic sexuality is quite different from the rose-colored view of women: if i remove the shame he'll feel better and won't do the weird thing anymore. There are more conceptual explanations of fetish in various psychological traditions, i'll try and find book titles if you're interested.
>>2358886>the object of their anxiety is often-times wearing feminine clothing No it's not. Re-read what i said, it's not as simple as "man afraid of something, develop fetish". This makes more sense for traumatized women with masochistic tendencies. Are foot fetishists afraid of feet? Are sadists afraid of violence? No, they're not, that's actually what they enjoy. Feminine gay men do not develop a fetish for wearing feminine clothes even if they suffer much more from rejection than straight boys growing up. How do you explain this? How do you explain that a lot of AGP aesthetics revolve around childhood and "regressing" to a younger age? Is this because they're afraid of children and childish clothing, or because they are developmentally arrested when it comes to sex? (Essentially what a fetish is)
The anxiety i'm referring to is hard to explain in layman terms but it has to do with how men form their identity and the challenges associated with it, not the fear of femininity in particular. It's more to do with development and less to do with adult cultural trends. A way to cope with these anxieties is by picking a sexual object (literal or abstract like 'sissification') to obsess over, rather than have a relationship with a human and what it entails.
>>2358887I meant GNC men, and i put it in scare quotes because people think being GNC amounts to wearing pink or blue when it's deeper than that. A feminine gay man still comes across as feminine in masculine clothing. He's more GNC (in a real sense) than a straight man wearing a skirt for the shock factor.
>>2358891No one made this argument.
No. 2358933
>>2358921No one is born with any kind of voice kek.
>it's not GNC because it's not seen in womenLast i checked GNC doesn't simply mean 'like the other sex'. Women can be GNC without imitating manly men, simply by being un-feminine. Call me a faghag all you want (i'm anything but), but wearing a skirt isn't GNC in and of itself. AGPs aren't GNC when they wear thigh highs or typical feminine clothing, and most men who are comfortable with crossdressing in public regularly are AGP.
This is interesting because it's a litmus test for whether you think gender norms are deeply ingrained (to the point where it affects your voice, gait, behavior in a myriad of ways) or simply a matter of clothing. Thinking it's just clothing is what got us in this mess to begin with.
No. 2358989
>>2358944Ah yes, 5yos aren't socialized. You'd be surprised by how fast kids are socialised, a lot happens between ages 0-3. 5yo is the age you start having silly childish crushes, do you think being GNC wouldn't already be apparent? They often make it extreme and stereotypical as they encounter gay culture but
not always>>2358975Nah there really are faggy boys and tomboys in conservative families. Crazy i know.
No. 2359033
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Can someone fluent and up to date with gendie speak tell me what am i not understanding despite being so close
No. 2359261
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I finally did it. Today is the year I finally cut off the last of my gendie friends for good along with social media. I am free. I always thought it would be cruel to break off a 5 year friendship just because of a disagreement in beliefs, but I've come to realize that in all my conversations ive had with these people its the same circlejerk of "tRaNs RiGhTs!!", "Im totes queerio!!", or "jk rowling evil!!".
The only thing I wish I did was do one last hurrah and say something like fuck trannies and fuck the gendercult then deactivate so they wont feel bad about cutting off the friendship but alas I did the cowards route and just ghosted.
No. 2359368
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>soft butch lesbian gets a concussion
>becomes nonbinary and changes name
hmm
No. 2359439
>>2358523Looks like the tranny domino is about to fall back and fuck up everything else in that picture. Just push forwards, let it fall flat on its face, and everything else will stand on its own just fine.
Also fuck the "free love" under women's rights. I hate that fucking moid psyop that was only put there to make feminists more accessible to nasty predatory men.
No. 2359454
>>2359261Good for you nona!
>but I've come to realize that in all my conversations ive had with these people its the same circlejerk of "tRaNs RiGhTs!!", "Im totes queerio!!", or "jk rowling evil!!". This is why troons and handmaidens are so incredibly boring! They literally cannot stop forcing trans into everything they do regardless of context and it's so fucking annoying.
Doing art = drawing nothing but "queer" characters and trans propaganda posters
Anything even mildly political = "this especially affects trans people the worst-"
Any fandom = trans headcanons, "every character is so queer coded", JKR bad
History = "King Charles and Cleopatra were trans actually, cavemen were trans too"
Nature = "my dog is trans and also clown fish can change sex, biology isn't even real btw because tra-"
Literature = "I like this author! ….unlike JKR who is an evil
terf who hates trans people"
Talking about your own personal life = "you sound like an egg omg what's your pronouns?", "as a TRANS person I face that too but it's harder for me because I'm trans and very queer"
No. 2359630
>>2359261Congratulations
nonnie, you are free. Don't beat yourself up for going the ghosting route, the online gendicult is so vicious if you don't simply disappear on them they're liable to try their best to completely destroy you and your reputation (and might as well do it either way). Life is much more free and light once you no longer have to walk on eggshells around mentally ill womanchildren, isn't it?
No. 2359638
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TRAs keep on taking them Ls.
>Michelle James, a male who identifies as a transgender woman, was charged with threatening to kill a neighbour in December 2024 and detained at HMP Maghaberry, a high security men’s prison near Lisburn, Northern Ireland.>James, 63, is a local trans activist and mounted habeas corpus proceedings which the Department of Justice conceded based on a lack of a policy for transgender individuals held in custody. James was therefore moved to the HMP Hydebank Wood, a women’s prison and young offender’s centre located in South Belfast, before being subsequently bailed with strict conditions imposed not to contact the complainant.https://transcrimeuk.com/2025/01/06/michelle-james No. 2359656
>>2358753>t. Has never browsed through the MTF thread.Most posts on r/MTF consists of trannies bitching their gay accepting family isn't woke enough because they said they accepted them being gay but didn't agree with the crossdressing and troonism. Infamous mexican meme tranny Wendy Guevara has this exact story, even his ultra homophobic dad came to terms with his sexuality, but his family begged him not to crossdress (not even out of terfiness, but for his own safety) which only made him want to do it more.
>>2359642What is gender to you? because clothes are absolutely designed with either a male or female in mind and tailored to those proportions. Men and women's bodies aren't the same therefore our fashion isn't either
No. 2359676
>>2358725This looks like granny pajamas for fat people. Sorry troononnas, I don't want your nonbinary dystopia.
>>2359663That's nice, still doesn't change the fact that we live in a culture and time in which skirts are feminine, and thus there's a 9/10 chance any man wearing them is a fetishist, so I reserve my right to judge them.
>>2359064>I think women being uncomfortable around men that wear feminine dresses is fair.Thank you, nonna. It's so disingenuous seeing people pretend most of us were born homophobic wenches when we literally had to peak out of troonmaidenry. I already gave feminine men the benefit of the doubt, and they proved themselves to be misogynistic freaks every single time. I'm tired of pretending the way they try to skinwalk us doesn't creep me out, even when I try to ignore it they always have to sperg about pronouns, transwomen and JKR.
No. 2359688
>>2358534the trans and ‘
poc’ part looks like an annoying fuck idiot going hai haiii i’m here too!
No. 2359833
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>>2359676>It's so disingenuous seeing people pretend most of us were born homophobic wenches when we literally had to peak out of troonmaidenry.well that explains why you are so fucking retarded some of us weren't idiots to begin with actually. every fucking time it's some "peaked" women who keep staying fucking retarded about gender related issues, you just go from one extreme to another based on which online opinions you are being fed because you never actually stop or did stop to think any of this shit yourself. you never actually think why anything is happening ever, you never use your fucking brain to try to understand what exactly is the reason why anything is happening ever.
(infighting) No. 2359955
>>2359688leave the
poc part, and get rid of the trans part. Eyesore solved.
No. 2359964
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Woman is when retarded pillow humper.
No. 2360059
>>2358762>A haircut and masculine clothing at a young age would've prevented so many TIF'sI swear i'm not trying to infight, i'm legitimately puzzled by these takes. This is so naive, most TiFs
were getting haircuts and masculine clothing at a young age, you had 12yo or even younger TiFs doing this and they were still fully captured by gender ideology. It's not as simple as "if we let everyone wear clothes of the other sex we'll solve troonism". Sure, girls being pressured into makeup and sexy clothing is awful and certainly helped TiF social contagion but it's deeper than that. What would have prevented TiFs from trooning out is taking girls seriously, allowing them to be whole beings, not beating them into feminine socialization, not exposing them to porn and shielding them from sexual violence. Same goes for TiMs, if you have a teenager with budding AGP, letting him wear a skirt and being le open-minded antitrad parent wouldn't do anything because he's already been exposed to porn, has already developed a fetish, is being groomed by older AGPs online and is about to profit from his male entitlement when trooning out.
No. 2360088
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>>2360079>making it all about herself againyou are so dense anon… its honestly tiring. It doesnt matter how many times anons explain its not about you liking certain clothes on men or not,, but you keep making it about your personal taste AGAIN.
No. 2360096
>>2360079Yep, it was never about women or androgyny as a whole.
>female shaped dressesHonestly, who cares about the aesthetic factor. Anons don't want to hype up men in skirts because we all know why they're in skirts in the first place. You can like androgynous men in makeup and goth dresses and still be aware of men's motivations to crossdress, which are overall different than women's (comfort, trends, etc)
No. 2360119
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>>2360088i think men in suits are ugly too and women look better in them. it's ok to not care about men and it's ok to admit they make you uncomfortable regardless of what they wear. women wearing male clothes is one thousand times more
valid.
No. 2360121
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It's so depressing to see takes like this getting traction on fucking Tumblr of all places. If someone said this on there ten years ago, they would have been bullied back to Reddit where they belong.
This goes without saying, but if only half of all human beings had hands, and 90% of crimes were committed by the half with hands, and the half with hands spent thousands of years engineering society to subjugate people without them, the people without hands would be 100% justified in viewing hands negatively. Are penises literally used to kill people? Usually not, though people can and absolutely have died from injuries caused by penetrative rape. But that doesn't change the fact that for some reason, having a penis is a pretty good predictor of a person's likelihood to kill or rape another person.
No. 2360134
>>2360121This gaining traction on tumblr is actually predictable nonna. Last time there were retards saying that having outdoor public sex was not a crime and that expression of sexuality is actually healthy, even if children are exposed to it…oh and homeless people need to have sex too.
But the week after they were complaining about Karens not using headphones and having max volume in their phones kek.
No. 2360153
>>2360069>>2360088>>2360135>"making it all about herself again"The irony of saying she was making it about herself when you can't go a single post without mentioning your sissy crossdressing fetish and calling everyone who disagrees a tradthot kekkk… Just go to unconventional male attractions on /g/ or make a separate crossdressing thread if anyone cares, stop sperging about your personal fetish in
gender ideology hate thread. This is the place where we bitch about moids in women's panties, not call them hot and parrot gendie talking points. Integrate or go back to reddit, chaser-chan.
(infighting) No. 2360165
>>2360158"clothes have no gender (therefore I can flash my bulge in the women's bathroom!)" is literally a gender ideology talking point kek how do you think trannies started in the first place? Seriously, just go back to Tumblr, you greatly misinterpreted the purpose of this thread. Abolishing gender would mean
no one gets to wear tight sparkly dresses and skirts, not that men wearing it should be normalized and praised.
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>>2360165>clothes have no gender (therefore I can flash my bulge in the women's bathroom!)This is literally the OPPOSITE of what everyone is saying. I genuinely have no idea how you can misinterpret something so badly. It has been explained to you several times that, if clothes have no gender, then no matter what a moid wears he cannot get into the female bathroom because wearing skirts doesnt make him a woman. You are actually driving me crazy its like talking to a wall.
No. 2360202
>>2360173Since you're too genuinely autistic to understand something so basic, let me explain it like its apples and oranges for the short bus crowd: That's the feminist utopia YOU live in. As evidenced by real life, the "clothes have no gender" argument has been successfully appropriated by moids who also claim to be female and use their gender non conformity to force their way into female spaces and harass feminists into silence. It doesn't matter how many times you REEEE about how in your perfect world, this wouldn't happen and we'd have a bunch of wholesome "not like other troons" male crossdressing allies because that's simply not the reality we live in, and almost no crossdressing moids have good intentions. If women being uncomfortable with fetishistic men who wear our clothes because they can't wear our skin bother you, you're free to go suck dick in every other troon and gay pandering website.
>>2360177Nonna please. You genuinely cannot be this dumb. Do some basic feminist reading before coming back here because the reason why both sexes adhering to oppressive beauty standards instead of abolishing them all together would be regressive is quite obvious.
No. 2360205
>>2360165>no one gets to wear tight sparkly dresses and skirtsIdk people would still enjoy fashion, but you can have men in tight sparkly ornate clothing that fits their frame and isn't just "i took this from my wife's drawer and tailored it, how subversive (i have a fetish but pretend i don't)"
>>2360173Are you familiar with Phil Illy, nona? He caused a controversy when he showed up to a GC conference in feminine, tight clothing, as an openly AGP man. His argument was similar to yours, "i don't think i'm a woman and i don't want to enter women's spaces so it's fine if i crossdress in public and you're a bigot if you object to my mind game". When he's not freaking out about Nazi GCs taking away his right to wear skirts (no one argued this) he's hyping other male fetishists. AYRT is describing the slippery slope from celebrating male androgyny to enabling male fetishists, the last 10 years have been a painfully long example of what's she's hinting at. Going "yayy king wear that pencil skirt and heels" when women are still the subordinate sex is putting the cart before the horse. We can pretend we live in a perfect world where women are listened to, where we can easily protect female-only spaces so we could support men in women's clothes, but it's 2025 and we can't go back to the 80s. You can't un-bake a cake, men with paraphilias easily connect and organize online/offline, they will say "aha yes i don't believe i'm a woman now can i go out in a pink vinyl schoolgirl skirt" and still try to get in female-only spaces.
No. 2360214
>>2360202>the "clothes have no gender" argument has been successfully appropriated by moids who also claim to be femaleHow can they appropiate something they go against? again, if skirts werent seen as ''female clothes'' then troons wouldnt feel like they deserve the right to get into SEX segregated spaces like women's bathrooms just for putting on a skirt. Its like you are incapable of understanding how gender ideology plays a huge part in troonism. I find women in skirt and tight clothes utterly repulsive, yet i dont want to ban them from wearing the ugly tacky shit they wear. Honestly, if moids were allowed to wear the same tacky trash some women wear then i bet those women would actually see how cringe they look in tight dresses and mini shorts and would go back to wearing comfy clothes instead of pickme clothes. Everyone wins.
>>2360205No one is celebrating it. That guy does the attention whore shit he does purely because he gets the reacting he wants from people like you. If they all just ignored and didnt get scandalized at an ugly guy in a skirt he wouldnt do that, because he's an attention whore.
No. 2360227
>>2360214>if skirts werent seen as ''female clothes'' then troons wouldnt feel like they deserve the right to get into SEX segregated spaces like women's bathrooms just for putting on a skirtThey would. There are ""butch"" troons, troons who make zero effort to dress feminine and they still want to get a kick out of being in female spaces and calling themselves women. AGPs get off things as innocuous as performing certain actions, like knitting, even if you somehow made clothing irrelevant they'd fetishize something else. It's hilarious how little you understand AGP troons.
>No one is celebrating itCelebrating, accepting, whatever. Point is we disagree that having a positive or neutral view of crossdressing straight men would help with troonism.
No. 2360237
>>2360227>bringing up butches againDamn anon you super dense. Again, clothes does not make a man a woman. No matter if he dresses feminine or masculine, men are still men. Because sex has nothing to do with gender. AGPs only get off to ''feminine'' things because its so strongly tied to women thanks to gender ideology.
>>2360233> You're still clinging into your retarded utopia where gender roles and sexism never existedoh no, someone dares to want a real change? how evil! we are literally never getting out of this troon hellhole because absolutely no one wants to enact a real change. As long as gender stereotypes exist troons will keep on living. Its really as simple as that. Troons only exist because gender exist. If it didnt exist and everyone understood sex differs from stereotypes they wouldnt exist as they do now. YES, some agp scrotes would still exist, but they wouldnt be allowed in SEX segregated bathrooms based on steoreotypes of what they think being a woman is(make up, high heels, etc).
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>>2360205Thank you,
nonnie, that was wonderfully put and better explained than I could. Unfortunately she's an genuine troon/crossdressing chaser who's gonna ignore all your points and call you a tradthot, but you're absolutely right. It's crazy how there's self proclaimed "feminists" who can't comprehend men being even more comfortable to wear dresses than they already are isn't a feminist priority and that feminism is still exclusively for women. Also, your example reminded me of baldie with the heels. I remember a bunch of his pictures going viral on radblr with a bunch of radfems praising him for being GNC without being fetishistic or offensive, going "see, men? it's this easy to crossdress without mocking womanhood!". Only to find out he followed a bunch of pornographic content focused on high heels and crossdressing, so it was a fetish after all (what a shocker…). It really doesn't matter if the man is not a hyper offensive caricature like Dylan Mulvaney, women are allowed to be uncomfortable with fetishistic men demanding allyship or praise in general.
>>2360214>if skirts werent seen as ''female clothes'' then troons wouldntIf, if, if, if. You're still clinging into your retarded utopia where gender roles and sexism never existed but guess what? They do and that's not changing. We're not talking hypotheticals, we're talking real life. Certain clothes are made for females, and men get off on wearing them. Face it.
>No one is celebrating itGuess you still can't face reality after all, huh.
Also, your argument is instantly proven wrong by the existence of places like LA where effeminate gays are completely normalized and thus ignored, yet it's still plagued with troons, arguably more than anywhere else.
No. 2360249
>>2360237>Damn anon you super dense. Again, clothes does not make a man a woman.Didn't say this. I'm pointing out how troonism isn't purely about style ("butch" designates a style, i'm not saying they're women). You're either dense or a baiter at this point.
> If they all just ignored and didnt get scandalized at an ugly guy in a skirt he wouldnt do that, because he's an attention whore.If we all ignored strange men in tutus they would stop parading themselves. Fetishists are attention whores, so ignoring them will solve the problem. If a man is laboriously jacking off next to you in public transportation, ignoring will help. If you go a women's club or gathering and a giant hon is standing there in an amazon skirt, just ignore him. I'm sure this will help. If we do this for 20 more years they'll leave us alone.
>>2360239Yes. Mocking men for having atypical hobbies isn't the point.
>>2360223They did and he had a meltdown about it online
>>2360241Thanks, i also thought about him. Our replies were very similar because it's so obvious how misguided this sentiment is
>>2360243Exactly
No. 2360254
>>2360248No, retard. Discouraging men from being GNC is what led to men trooning out. Saying men are women because they wear skirts and make up is the total opposite of being pro GNC people. Do you think that when radfems say men arent women for wearing female clothes they are actually encouraging trannies?
>How many trannies were there back when gay rights weren't mainstream and how many are there now that it is?So now you are blaming gay rights? you are actually a tradthot. Just say you dislike lesbians, gays and GNC women and move on.
No. 2360257
>>2360251> you're just encouraging men to crossdress without telling them they cannot identify as women. I am literally doing the opposite yet your small brain cannot comprehend it.
>what in the world makes you think they will listen?they dont have to listen, being a tranny should be illegal. Period. Literally most psychiatrists and doctors allow men to troon out because they dont accept men/women can wear different clothes without being of the opposite sex.
No. 2360264
>>2360254I dislike gay men as much as I dislike all men, I love and support lesbians and bi women. Hilarious how "tradthot" is the new "
TERF" for you dicksucking chasers. If men trooned out because they were "discouraged from being GNC" how do you explain they started trooning out en masse only once male gender non conformity became mainstream and praised? This is such a "poor little men got RADICALIZED into Nazism because women weren't nice enough" MRA talking point i have to laugh.
>>2360257You're not doing anything but sperging at women who don't like effeminate crossdressers but your autistic brain cannot comprehend you're not an actual activist making any real change.
No. 2360265
>>2360254>So now you are blaming gay rights?NTAYRT, but troon ideology was heavily supported by gay rights orgs because they needed to find a new cause after gay marriage was obtained (for funding). This has been discussed before in this thread. Criticizing the gay rights movement doesn't mean you're a tradthot.
>you hate lesbians!!!!Tell that to the lesbians who were maligned as evil dykes for opposing NAMBLA in pride. I think some of you are still in the grip of "Be kind" liberal feminism
No. 2360271
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Sorry to derail the argument nonnas, but I was listening to a song that I really enjoy by a female artist named The Buttress and came across picrel in the comments?? Idk what the “drama” is with this specific artist as I just found out about her, but I will say that I am SO fucking sick and tired of seeing tranny shit literally everywhere I go now, can’t even enjoy a song without someone bringing it up and it honestly kinda ruins the song for me.
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>>2360263I’ll go. What is the troon in picrel doing wrong nonnies?
No. 2360327
>>2360325I genuinely,
genuinely don't even know where to start.
No. 2360345
>>2360322>they cant even comprehend normal queers not wanting to apart of the shitshow. too many people think to be queer you respect everyones retarded pronouns even if they are completely incongruent with reality, that you watch drag show, flamboyant. etcIt's unironically so homophobic. Blog but I've had people talk to me
completely differently after learning I was a bifag, as in they raised their voice by 20 octaves and acted as if they'd been possessed by an unholy Twitter demon, complete with ~trans affirmations~ every 2 minutes. And then you're a traitor to the cult if that's not cute and flattering to you. Gendies and troons will insist their movement doesn't hinge on regressive gender roles and then normalize this "socially acceptable" stereotyping.
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>>2360348
Let it go nonny. We are not going to change eachothers minds. You enjoy your strict gender rules, i will keep trying to abolish them. We already live in a world where men wear comfortable clothes and women are forced into sexualized tight clothes since childhood(picrel) and troons still exist. You will keep sperging about ''muh clothes shaped for female bodies!!'' but the truth is that even when women are little girls and dont have anything to show, clothes is till sexualized, shorter and tighter.
No. 2360381
>>2360377and I also don't like that type of clothing but I like it less in a man. do you get me,
nonny?
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>>2360341He did post a photo of what he looked like before. He’s super into woo and talked about his dysphoria coming from his past lives kek
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>>2360398Thats perfectly fine i also hate going out and seeing women in sexualized clothes, its funny how you have a problem with one but not the other. But, things wont change anyways no matter how i wish we could get rid of sexualized clothes being ''feminine''. We are already in too deep if you look at how modern female celebrities look next to their male peers. I feel like trans ideology is here to stay because it doesnt matter how much we try, the sexualization of women is here to stay and make women's life hell. Everytime a female celebrity poses in sexualized outfits next to their fully covered male co-star a new tif is born, and also a new tim that wants to be humilliated like that poor female celebrity. Its just how things are and why we are here.
No. 2360410
>>2360326hes a
valid woman you bigot
No. 2360411
>>2351932"Nutrition guidelines for transgender individuals" kek!
>>2352239This is hilarious nona I think you should do it.
No. 2360427
Anonymous 3 minutes ago No. 2360417
>>2360409I don't WANT it to mean that, but that's what it is, it is a womens top because it is made to sexualize women. Pretending it's gender neutral doesn't change the fact, and it's not trad to acknowledge it. I WISH women could wear regular t shirts like men and that would be fine, but that is not the case and just calling all clothes gender neutral won't stop men from shoving themselves in clothes that are… "gender neutral" but just happen to present tits sexually. You're putting the cart before the horse. The problem is the expectations placed on women. If tomorrow all clothing had no labels men or womens, that would not stop women from being expected to dress for sex appeal, and men thinking sex appeal = femaninity to copy that
No. 2360437
>>2360420I don't want to gatekeep it, I wish it didn't exist, and men adopt womens enforced sex appeal because they thing being subjected to it is inherent to being a woman. You could say, mens clothing is gender neutral, women's clothing is women, because women's clothing is a subjugation on women. Allowing men to wear women's clothes will not erase it as a category.
>>2360421It's not so much in day to day life, i mostly dress in t shirts and sweatpants, i mean on television, movies, events like prom or the office, anywhere where there is an actual dress expectation, the women are expected to be sexier (prom dresses for women vs suits for men)
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>>2353490It's because they see a sexy animated character and point at the TV saying "Look that's LITERALLY me!" and totally ignore the fact that she IS a woman and the running gag about her manly voice is meant to be funny.
Hunter Gathers is actually a more accurate portrayal of troons, in that he became a woman as a loophole around the moral code he taught to Brock so that he couldn't be assassinated.
>"No (killing) women or children, it's what separates us from the baddies!"kek
No. 2360444
>>2360406You already got rebuffed by multiple anons and couldn't talk back aside from calling us tradthots. But thanks for letting us know you're blackpilled because.. female celebs wear heels. I thought you wanted to make a change kek
>Everytime a female celebrity poses in sexualized outfits next to their fully covered male co-star a new tif is bornAgain with the exaggerated focus on clothing. If we put every saudi woman in pants and a t-shirt they would still be legally children, subjected to forced marriage, not allowed to go outside without a male guardian etc. Women's status is symbolized by clothing, but our status isn't clothing in itself. Hijab is oppressive because of the moral code of conduct and expectations that comes with it (showing an arm? You're a slut), feminine clothing is a problem because womeb are expected to be ornamental objects. It's common feminist knowledge that many if not most TiFs are hyperfeminine in their behavior, priorities and values. Likewise, there are women who wear heels, long nails and still are very assertive and GNC in how they relate to the world. This is a common type of poorfag woman in many cultures. So no, a TiF isn't born every time a woman wears pink or a man wears blue. A TiF is born when she's subject to feminine socialization, feminine bullying, develops MH issues etc.
No. 2360467
>>2360444>comparing muslim women to western womenmoving the goalpost.
>Likewise, there are women who wear heels, long nails and still are very assertive and GNClibfem ''choice feminism'' crap. GNC isnt about being some fake girlboss femme fatale thats both hot and '''masculine(?)'', its about actually putting your comfort over how you present yourself to others.
> So no, a TiF isn't born every time a woman wears pink or a man wears blue.you literally have trannies saying they trooned out because they wanted to play with trucks instead of dolls. There is a interview with trannies harry potter did with a bunch of troons and a all of them talk about how they felt like ''women'' or ''men'' depending on what stupid gendered thing they liked as kids.
No. 2360488
>>2360467People bring up examples to illustrate an abstract concept. I chose a very clear example so it gets through your thick skull, i could have chosen a subtler western example (women in men's clothes won't solve the wage gap for mothers, won't solve porn, won't solve rape culture etc).
>libfem ''choice feminism'' crapMissing the point again. The point is comformity is much more than what you wear. Yes, a woman who's assertive, comfortable with being direct, independent and not submissive nor approval-seeking is androgynous, regardless of what she wears. A 6ft tall troon with anger issues, typical male entitlement and misogynistic behavior isn't GNC because he puts on nail polish. You're operating on tranny logic.
>There is a interview with trannies harry potter did with a bunch of troons and a all of them talk about how they felt like ''women'' or ''men'' depending on what stupid gendered thing they liked as kids.You taking trannies at face value when they're rationalizing bad choices is so funny, please apply for an autism diagnosis
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>>2360483I just want to complain and make fun of trannies. This conversations feels like it has gone on for over 48 hours at this point.
No. 2360585
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sucks being a fujo and so much of the community is either straight married women that trooned out because they discovered yaoi in their tween years or actively trooning out high schoolers that just read kazeki for the first time
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>>2360585i have a feeling its probably so bad now that the most popular ships are transed so that it essentially becomes a straight couple but with extra steps. and all the actual homosexual coupling are seen as old school or cringe.
No. 2360601
>>2360550Sorry kek, should have ignored earlier because it's obviously bait
>>2360585The younger ones are baffling because they think they're soo special and avant-garde when everything they do has been done already. It makes you want to grab them and show them all the current day detrooners who were exactly like them 10 years ago.
>read kazeki for the first timeKEK exactly
>>2360594Ignore, AYRT has bad faith and never replies in earnest
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>>2360592I’ll bring up a new topic then. Is it true that troons are struggling to get hired? Picrel made me think about it. If I was a hiring manager I would probably put a tranny resume immediately in the trash just due to liability. This is assuming they are applying for something where they need to be more than a warm body and actually work with others. I can’t imagine what benefit they would bring other than inflating the number of “women” that work at a company. (1/2)
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>>2360662The thing that finally made me start posting on LC after lurking for years was how outraged I was at GHC 2023. And that the prevailing discourse wasn’t about men obviously taking away opportunities for women, but that we shouldn’t question someone’s gender because they look like, talk like, and act like a man.
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>>2360641>be white male >by default, world will bend over backwards for you >have career many people would kill for >decide to throw it all away just to do "sex work" and call yourself a rat girl on twitter making up problems and crying when he gets fucked over for it. not that it even matters, probably. faggot's probably loaded
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>>2360905samefag but how is it possible for them all to be this delusional
No. 2361146
>>2360879>A lot of small companies especially don't want to hire them because of the assumed loss of working hours from their transition/Healthcare,I don't know how to articulate this properly but so many people go through this with health issues and disabilities they can't control, it makes me mad that troons are doing this to themselves on purpose but they still want to have their cake and eat it too while claiming to be
victims.
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I'll do fight for tifs, enbies and theythem. I'll leave the tims die alone.
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>>2361141>there's nothing inherently morally wrong with an adult wearing a small pastel shirt that has a Sanrio character on it. What counts as "children's clothes" varies greatly by time and cultureCan't they at least wear the kawaii sanrio shirt in an adult size that fits their adult male body though? It's ok for men to like sanrio I guess but wearing a children's garment is too much and the implications are weird.
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>>2360585This happens in all shipping sectors. Straight and yuri ships are also cursed with gendies and troons. Its a nerdy girl disease. At least with straight/yaoi ships you only have to deal with female troons, in yuri spaces you have to deal with pedophilic sex pest TIMs that think they are lesbians because they like catradora. Its so tiring.
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>>2361222I honestly think it’s just the type of person who is attracted to consuming yaoi, given permission to transition into a bishounen because that’s totally
valid, mixed with social contagion. You see a similar thing play out with men who want to be anime girls. They talk about Konata being their transitioning goal, they are validated for this, and are in a group where this is a normal occurrence. But I don’t really see the conversation being about how moeshit is causing men to troon out nearly as often. There’s a correlation definitely but it isn’t a causation and instead is probably due to other factors. I wonder how much of what we see is some weird manifestation of autism tbh
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>>2361457what the fuck is this cope? It's an underaged girl dressed like a slut engaging in violence.
OF COURSE ITS FOR MEN.
No. 2361484
>>2361457It's not a thing with yaoi or anime, it's communities as a whole, the infight threads ended up in that direction as well, pointing out how people trans out in clusters, and how it's similiar to suicide clusters.
But, it's easier to blame certain genres than it is to admit that fandoms as they are structured now are a good reason as to why there's so many trannies nowadays.
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>>2361222As a fujo myself, I haven't ever denied the correlation, personally. It's impossible to when one of my hobbies has been so heavily colonized (and nearly ruined in the West) by TiFs. My issue is when people are overly reductive and assume that there is a pure causal relationship between yaoi or slash shipping and trooning out. That is the thing I dispute, because it ignores the multitude of other contributing factors involved.
I think
>>2361457 and
>>2361484 have the right idea; it's about the type of person attracted to the genre, and the social clusters that form as a result. It's not that reading yaoi is some kind of Clockwork-Orange-esque mindfuck that makes someone cut her breasts off. Rather, if you are an OSA woman who is uncomfortable with some aspect of straight relationships in fiction (be it the sexualization of the woman, the inherent power imbalance, etc.) you are likely to be drawn to male-male romances. Additionally, if you are nerdy, an outcast, autistic, or have low self-esteem, you may find hyper-fantastical things like anime, science fiction, fantasy, or cartoons more appealing. The sum of all that is that there's a lot of overlap between the women who troon out and the type of women who like yaoi, which makes yaoi fandom an easy recruitment space for gender ideology. This compounded by female socialization, which causes women to feel intensely guilty for enjoying anything considered even remotely unethical. They want to re-contextualize their "
problematic" enjoyment of gay fiction as activism or an expression of identity, even though the hobby isn't inherently
problematic to begin with.
Once someone drinks the identitarian Kool-Aid, though, it's very difficult to convince them that straight women do not pose any kind of material or physiological risk to gay men; males are the ones committing 98% of sexual assaults, and that includes the ones perpetrated against gay men. The gay media made by women for women is typically drawn or written, whereas the (predominately pornographic) lesbian media made by men for men involves the exploitation of actual actresses. Lesbian porn created for male consumption is unethical because of the real-world context it exists in, where roughly half of all lesbians have been sexually assaulted, and three-quarters of those assaults were perpetrated by men.
No. 2361498
>>2361492It has nothing to do with the medium itself. Its honestly women just doing female socialization things and moralfagging about the porn of choice other women consume instead of targetting men that get off to horrid shit like barely legal teens. Men never get criticized as much as women do. Gay men into bara are shooting loads to men with straight up lactating man tits but you dont see antifujos claiming those men arent actually gay. Its really just moralfagging by women who dislike the genre but cant be honest and say they find it gross because then they would be closer to straight men who hate yaoi purely because ''yucky gay!'' and not for some ''
valid'' morally righteous reason.
No. 2361510
>>2361492As an old school fujo, I am just used to being shit on. Even before the tranny shit (before fujo was even a term), people would shit on you because you liked yaoi and moids would chimp out on you for shipping 2 dudes (fag moids would call you a bigot. I could kind of sympathize since I knew some fujos who did fetishize gay men… But then again why the fuck would most fags give a shit they will have anonymous sex in wolf suits.)
I swear to god pre 2020 there wasn't an aiden invasion in the yaoi community, even the cringe ass ones. Maybe some gendie spergs on tumblr but none of this shit where they'd give the bottom mastectomy scars.
But yeah, it's a tough life being a fujo nona. You're strong. Keep objectifying hot fictional men.
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>>2361498>>2361503Speaking more generally, I'm fed up with how moralfaggotry is part of every single retarded internet debate these days. No one knows how to just say that they hate something for reasons of personal taste anymore. No, now everybody has to perform mental gymnastics to find some kind of sociopolitical justification for why it's Morally Incorrect to enjoy the shit they dislike. I can't even remember the last time I saw a fandom shitstorm where moralfagging wasn't employed by one or both sides.
Jesus Christ, it's okay to hate or love things for superficial reasons! Everybody stop trying to find social-justice-based rationalizations for why art makes them feel a certain way before we all go insane. Just accept that you are a monkey and that certain stuff scratches your brain the wrong way.
>>2361506The internet should really have been 18+ at the outset. So many retardation could have been prevented.
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>>2361522Ntayrt but your response made me realize that my interactions with BL and yaoi were 15 years ago kek. I feel downright elderly.
No. 2361593
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Has anyone read picrel? Is it worth reading? I know Kathleen Stock has some views that are a bit too pro-troon for many anons here, but based on her interviews she sounds very rational and good at forming her arguments.
No. 2361634
Retard next to me and my wife in the train was playing music super loud. Didn't even especially clock him as a tranny but I should have, the foreign accent gave him some leeway, but my wife clocked him immediately. Told him the music is fucking annoying. Retard pouts, turns the phone off, waits ten minutes then starts to mald, telling me I'm rude and I could ask him normally. I tell him he was rude first with his fucking music and he doesn't get to be pissy cause someone told his ass off. tard starts arguing, not telling everything cause it's retarded and boring, but fucking train security (that somehow was around for once) gets involved.
Dude probably had a hateboner for troons because he wouldn't leave him alone lmao, this was great. Arguing back to him for ten minutes and thretening him with a 150€ disturbance ticket. I wish he would have actually written him.
Eventually security dudes leave and the troon is still malding. Finally tells me "you're not upset because of music, you're upset because I'm a transgender woman" and me who was so fucking pissed at that point just outright said "oh THAT'S why you're so fucking annoying" kek.
Anyway he started bitching about that instead, telling us we were transphobic and being like "you're not gonna be happy in Paris there's trans women everywhere!" in a loop.
If I had not already been transphobic I would have been after this, let me tell you.
No. 2361642
>>2361593I enjoyed it. She read the audio book too.
It helped me to understand some of the theory behind gender ideology arguments.
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>>2360641>>2360905kek i remember this dude
No. 2361720
>>2361672This is happening all over the world (video has subtitles)
>new law since november 1st that allows everybody to be the gender they want to be>even before that moid prisoners were already allowed in female prisons>multiple sexual assault cases were revealed now>technically for gyms etc there is still the right of the house/owner who decides who's allowed to get in but now this law can be overturned because they can simply sue because muh discriminationYou can tell that those female reporters are so against this, accidentally calling them "male" but having to stumble to correct their wording, because anybody who says anything against this…
Also, Germany has 85 million inhabitants, yet only 2000 women are incarcerated. If no moids would exist on earth, we could be living so peacefully…
No. 2361777
>>2360641Nope. They're still very prevalent in tech.
t. Two TIMs I know from college are in it. One is a manager and another is at the same company as me. At an internship I attended a speaking event where a TIM was literally talking about how he started trooning out by stealing his sister's underwear and saying he sees nothing wrong with kids transitioning.
No. 2361814
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https://www.thecollegefix.com/trans-activists-smash-window-shut-down-pro-woman-tpusa-event-at-u-washington/>Olivia Krolczyk was unable to give her talk, “Protect Women from Men: The Threat of the Trans Agenda,” after protesters pulled the fire alarm and later smashed a window in the building. The university’s TPUSA chapter and the Leadership Institute hosted the event.>Prior to the scheduled event, activists formed a line dance protest that began around 5:30 p.m. outside the building, The Daily, UW’s student paper, reports.>The protesters blocked the pathway for students trying to walk to class. Some spun around with signs that read: “The Real Trans Agenda: Joy, Love, & Liberation,” “You are loved” on top of a painted trans flag, and “Protect Trans Kids.”>Others wrote messages in chalk on the sidewalk, including, “All my girlfriends have dicks.”>Outside the building, some of the protesters started to yell insults at Jonathan Choe, an independent journalist at the event. In an X post, Choe identified some of them as members of Antifa.>The student club decided to continue with the event but to limit it to known members, friends, and acquaintances. Campus police heavily guarded the building, not letting unauthorized persons in. Even students attending classes in the building had to weave through the protesters and answer questions from police before entering.>However, the event did not last long as protesters began banging on the exit door to the room, and later broke a window and threw a noisemaker into the building.>Krolczyk became a public advocate for women’s rights after she said she received a failing grade for using the term “biological woman” in an assignment at the University of Cincinnati.>After gaining widespread attention on TikTok regarding the incident, she was banned from the platform. She was accused of violating its “community guidelines.” No. 2361961
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>sex is not binary and humans aren't even that much sexually dymorphic! if you dare to acknowledge obvious differences between males and females you're an evil misogynistic terf who thinks women are inherently inferior! so what if that tranny has a full beard? a lot of cis women have beards!
>btw we should put kids on puberty blockers so they don't go through the "wrong" puberty and develop in a "wrong" way
No. 2361972
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And there it is.
No. 2362023
>>2361720I bet at least half of those women are incarcerated due to shit related to moids (prostitution, killing an
abusive spouse, etc)
No. 2362047
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>>2362040When the camera pans over to this feminine specimen
No. 2362315
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I know that she means well but holy Hell, they're not going to be like if Trump is going full Pol Pot mode on and send to kill anybody who even wear glasses or speak two languages in a granny way. All these "stages of Genocide" made them more paranoid than the common person.
No. 2362339
>>2362315Mind you literal children are being jumped by ICE, the equality act was annulled too and women are risking their lives due to the ban on abortions in certain states.
Trannies must always be
victims n’1 though.
No. 2362499
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Jeeeeez so much fucking sperging made this thread suck. Anyway here's a cross post from the Ausfag thread. You see this troon on your train wyd
No. 2363098
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No. 2363268
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>>2363247These are all old terms by now.
I'm pretty sure TME/TMA fell out of favor amongst all but the trooniest of troons though since it outs whether you're afab/amab and trannies hate acknowledging that inconvenient fact. There's even tranny infighting about whether or not it's an altright psyop to "divide" the "community" but as usual it's 1000% projection and terms they literally made up. Back when baeddelism was a thing, male trannies would gripe about "TME people" (actual females) all the time for not sucking the shenis, which is probably where you're seeing the complaints about "TME people". Unsurprisingly, "TME people" don't tend to complain back and generally accept it, because gendered socialization is sadly very real.
Speaking of misogynoir, transmisogynoir is a term they co-opted too, just like they stole the term "misogyny" to refer to people hating on bepenised tranners.
No. 2363488
>>2363348>how did you react with it happening?With sorrow that I felt I could've prevented it had the circumstances been different for us both.
>Are you still in speaking terms?No.
No. 2363501
>>2363271Exactly. I've always hated that term, it screams troons trying to pretend they're more opressed than actual women kek. And most if not all of the "transmisogyny" they claim to experience isn't even the homophobia since they'll cry that for basically anyone who doesn't enable their lunacy and fetishes at all times. A woman could tell them they aren't entitled to showing their cock in a female locker room and they'd call it transmisogyny.
>>2363348I've know a few people fall down the pipeline, it's part of why I'm here. Most were just guy friends I wasn't very close to and never liked that much, so I didn't feel that bad about it. It's just mildly disappointing but expected at this point, I can even predict they'll do it months in advance sometimes. I kinda treat them like they're my personal cows because they're so delusional it can be funny but I keep my distance at the same time. I did feel bad recently when a girl I know had her bf troon out though.
No. 2363553
>>2363348One of my childhood best friends is an autistic woman who goes by he/they who wants to get top surgery and it makes me sad. This sounds mean but she doesn't work and Im relieved that she will never be able to afford hormones or surgery at at least. She doesn't know about my views in detail but I've told her to stop they/them-ing me and pestering me about gender identity. She still calls me some male nicknames like king but that's just whatever. Weirdly enough the most annoying thing is when she won't stop talking about her OCs being trans and then calls my male characters they/thems and draws some of them with tits or top surgery scars kek. And it's always the short or flamboyant ones.
>inb4 why do you put up with this doormat She's like a sister to me and I struggle with making friends and I don't want to lose her.
No. 2363598
>>2363247On tumblr. It peaked me seeing TIMs denigrate TIFs by claiming they (the TIMs) were the true
victims of misogyny. While I’ve always found TIFs to be cringe pickmes, I realized then that moids will always try to bully women into submission. It doesn’t matter what you call yourself.
No. 2363602
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Posting this here because I’m not sure if a TIM or TIF drew this. The self-awareness of self-hating troons is something else kek.
No. 2363658
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>>2363604>Self-aware troonsI've met a few and they're the only reason I don't read ovarit everyday anymore. Rant/sperg but the "better woman than you'll ever be"s who act exactly the same (coomer moid) except way more public about their fetishes/porn, since they think if "a woman" is acting that way, it's "hot" and people will be turned on. But everyone knows it's a man pretending to be a woman because they're still acting like a horny moid. No one can say anything because they're scared of (typical male) retaliation. And
even here you can't call out a tranny. So there is no way for most of them to
become self aware, since they have constructed a criticism-proof hugbox to prevent any real introspection, leading them to become self-aware
No. 2363862
>>2363341tme - transmisogyny exempt (anyone who isn't brave and stunning, technically includes non-trans males but is almost exclusively used for women, i wonder why…)
tma - transmisogyny affected (aka. the most oppressed group on the planet)
baeddel - term for a group of tumblr "radical feminist" tims in the 2010s who were adamant that they were oppressed by everyone and everything, but especially by tifs. included lots of threats of violence against tifs and normal women, crying
victim nonstop and spergy schizophrenic rants about how everyone wants to both torture and murder as well as rape and fetishize them at the same time (fucking KEK). one of the founders of the "baeddel" movement turned out to be a rapist, so no real surprise there. there's apparently been a bit of a revival of their ideas recently, being named "neobaeddelism".
>>2363247i heard about it around 2021, during the whole "transmisandry" debate on tumblr. it actually ended up peaking me kek.
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Nazis burned books about other ideologies too and these episodes gave the studio a big bad reputation if aired. So no, it wasn't for Nazi powers but for the creators in doing stereotypical and boring characters.
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>>2363774I remember when I ranted how my fav is always transwashed over and over because he's not a fighter and in ancient China his hobbies are considered manly anyway, so he doesn't need to be a ftm. I have been called transphobic for it.
Then again, if you rant about people not tagging their trans headcanons, you're transphobic anyway.
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>Life-saving medication
They're not safe for non-medical use for a reason, Brian. Same with T. But we are taking about moids who probably also bought Belle Delphine's water.
No. 2364469
>>2363658This, no such thing as a "self aware troon". If they were self aware, they wouldn't be troons.
>>2363602All these edgy 4chan r/4tran4 subs are so bizarre to me, the "parodies" they make of other troons are so accurate it's not even a parody and most of the time they read the exact same as unironic troonposting (to the point they've been mistakenly posted on MTF without nonnies realizing it's meant to be a joke)… If they're so aware their community is cringe and filled to the brim with misogynistic sexpests to the point of relentlessly mocking them, not unlike the twansphobes they hate so much, you'd think they'd work to build a censorship-free space where they get to show us outsiders they're the "good ones", and not all troons are such awful caricatures. But they don't, because deep down they're exactly the same as the horrid hons and aidens they think they're above of.
No. 2364486
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>>2362499crossposting as well, how does armhair even get like that?
>the rip in the seams No. 2364538
File: 1737762759249.mp4 (5.03 MB, 480x852, ssstik.mp4)
I'm officially seething. 231k likes on this bullshit, I can't even put into words everything wrong with this video.
>Bases gender identity on the biological conditions at conception
The law is literally trying to abolish gender identity, dumb faggots. You can't even mention the fact that sex is a material reality?
>All human embryos develop the same, without sex organs
So we're doing the typical "all fetuses are technically female despite having no genitalia because everyone knows women are just incomplete men" medical misogyny, huh. If they have no genitals, how are they female embryos??
>If sex were assigned at conception…
Holy fuck, they can't stop being intellectually dishonest with their tranny word salad stolen from intersex people for even one second. Nobody "assigns" sex, it's OBSERVED.
No. 2364558
>>2364538Samefag, that last part about muh intersex people is especially retarded. First of all, if you're %1 or less of the population, you don't get priority over women which are roughly %50 of the population, we don't care. Second, what do they even want? It's never, ever been clear how to define intersex people at birth, and most doctors to this day basically flip a coin when it's not visibly clear, and will continue to do so whether this law gets passed or not. Hell, most intersex people don't even realize they're intersex until they're fully grown, get some x-rays and discover they had some invisible testes and PCOS-like symptoms. I'm convinced the "intersex" group trying to make this law all about them is just more trannies in a trenchcoat with how much they've successfully appropriated the intersex movement.
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Press (x) to 41%.
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Found this movie showing at some movie festival, absolutely revolting
No. 2364812
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Part of me that I was glad about was how fed up fujos in the East are about trannies in fanfic. I've seen some very valid grievances from them and at least we can openly criticized (made fun of) them here without any consequences.
Once instance, someone said a TIM should de-trans and get married to a man and people were laughing their asses off instead of just trying to attack and cancel them lmao
No. 2364968
>>2363774Holy shit, yes. FFA is an absolute dumpster fire. I've been going there on and off for years, but don't bother posting anymore because the TIF/handmaiden takeover is so complete. You can't go a single fucking page without tranny nonsense, and it infects almost every thread. They'll modcall you the instant they sniff out any comment even slightly less than 1000% TRA. It's absolutely insane that FFA went from a place you could talk about sexism and the occasional radfem thought to a trash heap of TIFs crying about how they're
triggered by not finding enough fanfic of post-op FtMs topping blorbo with their rotdogs.
It does make me laugh that the HP threads are still going strong, though. There are obviously still radfems there who just roll their eyes and stay quiet.
No. 2364973
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>>2364486>messy, strung out unwashed scrote hair>unkempt granny dress that makes no sense for the weather anyways>hairy man arms contraposed with dainty pink watch and bracelet>ugly hot pink phone case that doesn't go with anything>random corduroy jacket because ???>heels that don't go with anything else in the outfit and make no sense to wear on a regular bus commute to begin withVersus the pleasant-looking elderly lady across
>kempt, combed hair styled nicely>bright pink jacket that looks properly suited to the weather>gloves that match her outfit>practical-looking bag>comfortable jeans>probably wearing well-fitted sneakers instead of gaudy heels because she doesn't have AGPThe rip in the seams is particularly horrible, how does he feel no shame? Why do tims always dress like they rummaged around blind in a thrift shop and grabbed the first "gender affirming" shit they found? This is an ocular assault ffs.
No. 2364999
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>>2362047This thing kind of looks like Steve from Stranger Things kek
No. 2365008
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I would rather have Ariana Grande win a supporting actress award award than Karla Gascon winning the main best actress one. Please god don't give "Karla" an award for this shitty movie. Or maybe give it to "her" and peak people with this nonsense. I don't know anymore.
No. 2365028
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>>2364999Agreed, even though I find him hot kek.
No. 2365039
>>2364973ayrt but it was actually a crusty wig half falling off and you could see his male-pattern-baldness underneath…
when i took the picture i also thought of how funny the juxtaposition is. felt so bad for her, and she was obviously uncomfortable as were everyonr around then.
there were two of them sitting on that chair, and they wander around together holding hands (equally as badly dressed)
No. 2365062
>>2365039Every detail is a new low.
I hope they left quickly, can only imagine how terrifying it'd be to be cooped up in a moving vehicle with two looney troons. They sound like a match made in hell, truly.
No. 2365251
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I think we'll see the majority of troons detransition in the next few years
No. 2365256
>>236525111 years after he came to his senses. You will be able to tell who of the public/famous troons are good people at heart by who openly and publicly speaks out against troonism and transition like this guy did,
or who tries to silently slip into the background or spew some shit about "it just wasn't right for ME, but do keep mutilating kids they know what they need"
No. 2365301
>>2365251He looks fucked up. According to Wikipedia his parents were junkies and he was raised by his violent grandpa and battered wife grandma, which explains a lot. The article also says he had gender dysphoria since he was a kid, he used to want to wear girl's clothes to school. If the truest of the transes can snap back to reality, it's not looking good for the rest of them.
I wonder if this is something we'll see more of in the coming months, or if they'll wait until Trump is gone to detrans publicly so they don't get shit on for being Republican shills. If the trans movement survives Trump, it's going to be very different to what we've got now. Being forced to acknowledge one's actual gender and being barred from women's spaces will force a lot of them to leave the house and touch grass. Maybe getting a therapist who doesn't yaaas kweeen their delusions will push some of them into fixing the shit that made them transition in the first place. And unfortunately it's going to be harder for men to castrate themselves, but I have faith in their quest for coom; they'll give themselves moobs with plastic bag juice no matter what the orange man says.
No. 2365312
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Interesting tech blog I followed for a while. No longer.
I'm so tired of people's inability to just keep fucking quiet about that shit. Just stick to your topic and stop with the pseudo activism.
No. 2365379
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>>2365301The majority of trannies don't even think trutrans is a thing anymore, they'll just claim he wasn't "trans enough" and tell him not to speak for them. Nothing will wake them up until the cognitive dissonance is too much for them personally to take, after which they will get promptly dropped by the community and shunned.
Also even before cheeto dust they were doing bathtub HRT like actual junkies, so I can only imagine how dire things will get now that this shit is finally getting cracked down on. Picrel, some tranny shared their vial from "Otokonoko Pharmaceuticals", a DIY HRT operation from some Brazilian tim iirc that used packaging featuring shota hentai. This is considered one of the more official DIY producers, guarantee some dumbass moid is going to kill himself with a bad homebrew and it'll get spun into tranny genocide real.
>>2365312>if you feel this way, stop reading and take a quick trip to the garage with your car keysAutism moment but what does this even mean? Is this a thinly veiled threat or is he just telling them to stop reading in nerd speak?
Trannies have all but colonized tech spaces so unfortunately any prominent tech creator has to virtue signal their loyalty to the cult. The amount of times I've seen some rando youtuber get asked how they feel about trans rights, with the obvious expected answer, is disturbing. It goes beyond parasocial, it's like they need to hear every single person they watch/like say it.
No. 2365417
>>2365379I read it as a call for killing yourself with the exhaust fumes, but maybe I've read too much into it.
But you're right, the tech sector is completely infected with troonery, it's disgusting.
No. 2365662
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Lol, lmao even.
No. 2365728
>>2365662SHIT this is making me angrier than it should
it's gonna take more than one song to deprogram these girls
No. 2366315
>>2365251It's an addictive fetish. He'll retransition when he's horny enough again.
>>2366200Nonny, is your friend in the age-bracket to become a gendie special? My best friend went from handmaiden to they/them because she wanted some of that affirmation for herself and I wish I'd said something sooner.
No. 2366355
>>2366315>is your friend in the age-bracket to become a gendie special?She’s 21, so I’m assuming yes…she’s a lesbian as well. I have actually had concerns of her eventually turning into a genderspecial, mainly from her sending “memes” having to do with gender BS. She doesn’t do it often or like all the time, but she’s done it enough where it caused me to have some slight concerns. Plus she liked a “non-binary” person before (it was a girl of course), is into the whole “respecting pronouns” BS, has complained about “transphobia” before, and doesn’t think feminism should include hating transwomen.
It’s honestly really sad to see so many lesbians into the gender ideology crap, but then again it also doesn’t really make sense to me why they would be unless they’re eventually going to turn into a genderspecial themselves.
No. 2366574
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>>2366355Sorry
nonnie but I think your friend is soon to go off the deep end, she's got more than just a foot in the water if she's reeing about transphobia and respecting pronouns.
Gendie stuff goes hard against lesbians, if you're even accused of being "terfy" you'll get ostracized from your entire friend group/social sphere. Lesbians (and to an extent all women) by default have to prove they aren't to be socially acceptable, unlike gay men. You might even get people harassing your employer, family, etc. On top of that many lesbians are non-conforming so they get hit with this bs constantly from both "queer" and normie spaces just for being themselves. There are so many butch women who get harassed regularly on/offline because short hair and unisex clothing = nonbinary or pooner now.
If she's 21 she's been bathed in this shit since she was a teen, and that's long enough that if she doesn't think it's retarded she likely has drunken the koolaid for real. There are based lesbians but there aren't many actually lesbian spaces anymore, and if you've only ever been surrounded by bihets calling themselves lesbian and demanding lesbians date scrotes, you might think that's what lesbian culture is. How many lesbians growing up nowadays know about Dana Rivers, the moid who killed two prominent attendees of Michfest because it was a "womyn-born-womyn" only festival for lesbians? How many of them know anything about lesbian or gay history besides what's been rewritten for tranny tolerance's sake?
Kids, and even young adults nowadays, have no fucking clue. They're told over and over that brave and stunning transwomen started the Stonewall riots, that we owe our rights to them, that lesbians have always accepted trannies, and so on. They're so cooked.
No. 2366605
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>>2365004Because nazis burned science about trans people! They were transphobic!
Each time I see pics like Picrel I want to edit them to sound like
>>2357939 No. 2366701
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This shitty post is going around twitter, the prosecution complex is unreal. Also why do women have to solve the problem of male violence? If men are beating up and raping trannies then the prison authority needs to do better to prevent that, not slide the problem under the rug by sending the failmales in the women's prison.
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The one who pulled up the v-coding definition was predictively another polyam failmale with she/her pronouns. I looked up the sources listed in the Wikipedia page and they seemed to be fanfic written by MTFs in academia and published in obscure journals. A short snippet from one should convince you that these journal articles are nothing but garbage.
>The structure of the entire criminal justice system needs to change. Prisonsshould be abolished, and punishment should no longer be at the crux of justice because it is a manipulative response to harm, and it is ineffective at changing behaviors.Lesser sanctions, while preferable to prisons, can also be inadequate because they “simply replace old cages with new ones.”Punishment and its purposes should be altogether abandoned in favor of alternatives that instead promote providing people with adequate programs and care for the purposes of healing and reparative justice.
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>>2366709The v-coding really does sound like pure fanfic. When you consider how many of them have rape or rape-adjacent fantasies (whether as the rapist or
victim) it's hard to take this stuff seriously. They claim that guards will "auction" off access to having the tranny placed in their cells, that they "pacify" violent inmates by putting trannies in there as sexual prisoners/"wives", etc. The claims are insane but it's even more insane that anybody is taking this as gospel truth and whipping troons up into a frenzy because they all somehow mysteriously seem to end up in prison for sex crimes.
>It is common for correctional officers to publicly strip search trans women inmates, before putting their bodies on display for not only the other correctional officers, but for the other prisoners. Trans women in this situation are sometimes made to dance, present, or masturbate at the correctional officers' discretion.[121] The source for this in the wiki article, which itself should be taken with a grain of salt since wiki is autist tranny paradise, is a quote from a single tranny.
>"I was put in a caged area where over 200 men witnessed, gawked, and made fun of me. Some made passes, some made lewd comments, and others made known their desire to have sex with me. . . . Then I was forced to strip off my clothes, bra, panties and stand nude in front of them while I changed clothes. This generated a lot of ‘cat calls,’ whistles, and more lewd comments."Was this a quote from a court case, perhaps? No, again it's from a book about trannies in prison, Captive Genders: Trans Embodiment and the Prison Industrial Complex. None of this is substantiated in any way. These are all taken from self-reports from a group who cannot be truthful about one of the most basic aspects of their material reality, that they are male.
The clear answer, if this is even partially true, would be to segregate trannies within male prisons, but they complain when they're are placed into "involuntary protective custody" too. The only solution, according to them, is to put them with women. And then conveniently ignore policies like handing out condoms to women in women's prisons to prevent pregnancy from rape, or the female
victims who get assaulted by trannies in women's prisons. Picrel, they take obvious tranny fantasy writing as the truth and report it as fact, but when a woman reports being raped by a tranny in a women's prison it gets reported as "she says".
Even if we took it at face value that guards apparently auction off trannies to moids, why should male on male rape be the problem of women? Why should women have to be victimized instead to protect men from other men? Why should women have to deal with men in their spaces for men's sakes?
I do think it's funny so much of this "tims in women's prisons" dialogue centers on male trannies though. Where's the ftms clamoring to get placed in men's prisons? Or is there perhaps an underlying reason there are so mtfs in prison in the first place? Sage for alog but it's sickening how handmaidens always throw some category of women under the bus for male/troon approval. The same women and pooners screeching that scrotes belong in women's prisons would never, ever put themselves in a men's prison because they know what would happen.
No. 2366815
>>2366813i saw a video of some degen shithole who was a prison bitch and there was vids of it. Dude got implants or some shit and had bitchtits and was loving taking it up the ass.
Most troons in prison are sexual deviants. The ones who arent (if they exist) aren't going around with 823492374238749 terabytes of CP on their pc and going around abducting and raping kids.
No. 2366818
>>2366751ayrt. It annoys the shit out of me that being a fujo means you HAVE to self insert and you HAVE to want to troon out. I literally got into yaoi as a way to NOT self insert. Why the fuck would I self insert as a guy? The pooner fad in yaoi annoys the ever living fuck out of me. Every time I see someone drawing my husbando with a masectomy I just want to ask WHY? But I know they will just say "hii hii that's just my style" as a way to shut down the glaringly obvious truth that they are doing something that yaoi was never meant for.
Am I the only one who never saw yaoi as a way to self insert? Am I autistic? I didn't think shipping was about self inserting as one character. I thought that was just yume shit where you make up an OC or some shit.
I still think lesbians have it harder than fujos. the troonjoshi fad is relatively new. and will likely go away, but the "She just hasn't found the right dick" lesbian thing has been around ever since the first cave lesbian tasted pussy.
No. 2366872
>>2366836There's some degenerate hentai subreddit, I think called "I want to be her" or something similar, and so many of the posts are exactly what you describe. Fishing for degrading behavior that's "euphoric" and "validating", posting fantasies about being raped because it makes them "feel like a woman", etc.
They cope by saying real women have rape fetishes too but it's a completely different type of fetish between them and trannies, and lots of the women with that fetish have histories of being abused or raped in the past. Trannies usually
are the rapists statistically, so it's not even remotely the same thing.
No. 2367075
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>>2364999>>2365028They have similar noses and lips I guess. Maybe he's Joe Keery's long lost ugly troon cousin.
I also find Joe hot, mostly because he's funny and has nice hair. No. 2367213
>>2357360>Your crewExcept I'm not trans
>>2356465I have no reply for you because arguments in this thread are pointless, as expected, but I have to say I'm so confused as to why you included a screen cap of my post when you were replying to it kek
No. 2367409
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“Women’s” Valorant e-sports team that is more trannies than women.
If you’re a female gamer the landscape is so bleak it really makes you want to a-log on the reg. total tranny death.
No. 2367414
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>>2367409They also have male teams that, of course, have no TiFs. I wish all the TiFs the realization that they’re entirely worthless to their retarded death cult.
No. 2367570
>>2366701Oh that's awful. I wonder what happens to women imprisoned alongside trans women?
>>2367283Good point- but we'll probably hear more about the TIMs in women's prisons and the heinous shit they did, which could prompt more women to speak up, and maybe one or two of the fucked states will consider building a separate spa retreat for all the abused pedophiles and rapists in programmer socks.
No. 2367572
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so fucking close
No. 2367747
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>None of America’s problems are cause by trans people. None.
Women have to be called womb carriers, period havers, having to share their own public restroom with mods wearing dresses, lesbians being called terf if they don't want to have sex with a man, etc etc etc
Those problems were done by trannies.
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If trans kids are our future, we are screwed.
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No. 2368081
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>awkward girl?
>must be a closeted transboi!
No. 2368085
>>2368081But it's
definitely not misogyny and body dysmorphia, you guys.
No. 2368088
>>2367747You guys have normalized conversion therapy, self-mutilation, and giving unnecessary surgeries to kids all over the world. What do you
mean you have never caused any problems.
No. 2368541
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>>2366751samefag but it's everywhere…
No. 2368555
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>>2368541this is a nerd girl problem in general and the eternal plight of the self insert retard who wants to become the porn regardless of whether it's yaoi or not. representation is a fool's errand and it murders the autist's capacity to even rationalize their attractions correctly
No. 2368622
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>>2368547I don't think so. it's an ongoing pervasive issue and culture wide things like the semi-acceptance of trannyism cannot be undone easily and have trickle-down effects on the subcultures connected to the broader culture. i still remember there being a trend on tiktok in 2020 back when i was a gendie where a bunch of TIFs made jokes about how they used to feel like fetishists for reading yaoi… but turns out they were actually gay men all along. a bunch of western m/m stuff is made by tifs.
actually, this glaring incongruity in self-identification as male and behaviour (reading porn directed at and enjoyed by almost entirely by women) made me uncomfortable and probably prevented me from socially transitioning. it's crazy how they ostensibly can't see how they appear to other people.
i hope more women & girls peak with time. a lot of they/thems will probably desist, once the pressure to conform to femininity and society hits them as they age, and their jakeys tire of pretending to be bi (some of whom never even pretended). i saw this happen after 2020, when people had to go back outside and were subject to social expectation again. too bad that instead of accepting their reality as gnc women/women outcasted in some way from conventional femininity eg autism they'll just grow out their hair and normiemaxx.
No. 2368680
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Sorry for my garbage screenshot skills but Holy fuck hormone replacement for menopausal women isn't "gender affirming" it's to mitigate shit like osteoporosis and brain deterioration. If you want cosmetic surgury to get a tit job that's one thing but menopausal hormone treatment isn't just for funsy girly feels, if anything plenty of women feel TOO much like a woman having to go through menopause
No. 2368699
>>2365662>>2368622It's really wild to think about how being a fujo on the internet went from being normal, to making you a gay fetishizer transphobic Nazi no different from straight men who rape lesbians to turn them straight, to making you an egg transboi all in the span of less than 10 years. Feels like I'm losing my fucking mind when I remember how TIFs used to tell fujos
>"as a GAY MAN, I find you DISGUSTING!!!11 piss your pants, Nazi terf scum!"only for those same pooners to end up admitting BL made them troon out, and for BL to get appropriated as a staple of TIF culture.
No. 2368722
>>2368680Even outside of the stupidity of equating hormonal treatment for menopausal women to HRT, the rest of it is ridiculous.
Gender is when you're not bald or small-breasted/big-vagina'd, I guess.
No. 2368732
>>2368699Fujoshi need to put their foot down against misogyny. Them trooning out as a way to "not offend the irl faggots for enjoying for-women-by-women gay anime" is just another way of fawning to our oppressors. I had a ton of gay friends back in the early days of me being a yaoi fan and none of them ever bitched at me for liking yaoi. Maybe they complained behind my back, and if that's the case, I really don't give a fuck.
Fujos need to embrace themselves as WOMEN who like cute 2D yaoi men and tell moids they have NOTHING to apologize about. We need less handmaiden pooners and more unapologetic fujo pride.
>>2368680Take out the menopausal hormone replacement and she's basically just spelling out that "gender affirming care" is 100% cosmetic and not the essential life saving medical treatment it's touted to be by the gendies.
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Jfc she died in 2019 and trannies are still seething about her
No. 2369284
>>2369271Literally was gonna say that. The most disgusting and fucked up mxm mangas I read were always by and for gay men.
Women aren't a threat to irl fags unless she's like his religion tardwife mom and she kicks him out of the house for being a homo (though dads are far more likely to do this to their sons.)
It's really annoying that they bitch at "unhealthy gay relationships being romanticized" in yaoi. As if women don't write unhealthy relationships with straight people all the fucking time. Just ignore 50 Shades of Grey because Killing Stalking exists!
No. 2369512
>>2368680The freaky thing is that this is literally how they think. They cannot fathom that their "gender" is just a made up spiritual belief with no basis in reality, so they impose it onto everything else. They really seriously think a balding man is trying to "affirm his gender and feel like a man" by getting a hair transplant, or that a woman with hormone related health complications take hormones "to feel like a woman" rather than to just… stay alive and be healthy. They have lost the ability to think critically or to see the world neutrally.
And that's also why they now think kids can consent to invasive hormones and surgery. And if kids can give consent, then they can also consent to sexual relations… with adults. So really it's not grooming and sexually exploiting kids if it's what the kids want. And they as the adults are righteous in helping the kid get sexually exploited. All in the name of gender.
No. 2369531
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>I'm trans and I hate it
But where is the trans joy that tras talk about??
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>>2369598>you break condomTipical moid insult
>you're uglyright in his ego
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I hate how people take this guy seriously. (picrel is brazilian prostitute deputy "Erika Hilton")
No. 2370051
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>>2368555This reminds me of this subreddit I discovered. I thought it was a space for actual normal GNC people, no gendis and troons. But ended up being another subreddit for people with weird gender fetishes.
No. 2370172
>>2369520What happened was the idea that you can change sex became popular, so some delusional fujos started pretending to be men, then those tif-fujos were made fun of for just being retards who are trying to live a larp, so the tif fujos started lashing out at non-tif fujos claiming they're being fetishized to try and get rid of non-tif fujos so the tif-fujos could no longer be compared and likened to regular fujos. This also allowed tif-fujos to larp oppression to better mimic the totally-experiencing-homophobia experience which is romanticized in media. The same fujos that used to seethe that not supporting their ships or having different ships was homophobia became tifs, which is why the tif-fujos use the whole fetishizing sjw language to basically get their way the same way they did with claiming everything was homophobia.
>>2370167Based.
No. 2370219
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Trannies are going to be banned from the military kek. I always found it weird how diabetes and mental illness disqualifies you, but being a tranny doesn’t kek. They’re not even deployable in the first place, they’re just a black hole that sucks money since they just want surgeries and hormones.
I hate Trump and wish he didn’t win, but I can’t lie and say that regarding the tranny bullshit he’s bringing back sense, anything else is a …mess. I wonder what Kamala would have done.
No. 2370231
>>2355226Just learned about this movie. What the actual fuck, how did it get 13 Oscar nominations?!
I think in the future this will be used as an example of how extreme troonism was pushed by media.
No. 2370273
>>2370239Yeah I feel like they’ll use all this and paint themselves as the ultimate
victims , akin to holocaust
victims , I can already hear them screeching about “transgenocide”, meanwhile women are still dying due to not accessing abortions, the equality act has been revoked, children are being deported and the average American salary is not sustainable and the rich elite still doesn’t pay taxes.
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Boo boo, cry harder.
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Of course they're good people, they didn't make your life harder. Moids stfu.
No. 2370400
>>2370359kek based. Next thread pic
We need stickers of these irl
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>>2370672nta but the redhead tif probably
No. 2370720
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anyone get called they/them when they got a short hair cut?
i got a buzz that i grew into an undercut maybe 4 years ago, and all my lefty friends started they themming me. its wild because they know im not trans, but nearly half of my friend group male and female 23-33 years old trooned out and they just naturally assumed i was next. trans is when woman short hair ig. it really messed with me because it was around covid when everyone was staying inside trooning and my friends kept pushing this on me. to the point that i geneuinly was like am i trans ??? im not ofc, they straight up weponized my body insecuries (i have an eating disorder and body dismoprhia) and tried to make me think its bc im trans not just because im a woman who wants to get a buzz for fun because yolo or whatevevr. its fucking sick hosntly, ive cut most of those people off.
No. 2370791
>>2370720I've also buzzed it off before and people (complete fucking strangers too, like baristas) suddenly started asking for pronouns. It didn't make me "question my gender" at all, just peaked me more.
Lefties act like gender roles don't exist, but start asking for pronouns/use they as soon as someone is not a walking stereotype of a woman or man.
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>>2370720I do but I'm butch, so you either get the "tmasc" loving femmes who encourage body mutilation because reasons I guess, or you get the gendies who are they/them'ing you and trying to 'crack' your egg all the time.
This seems very common among women who still present 'femininely' though. It's straight up grooming.
It's not just gendies though, I've noticed a lot of people who just want to seem woke do this shit too. Incessantly, even. I got harassed once by a coworker for not putting my pronouns in my email signature (which is now standard at my workplace for some fucking reason). If you point it out they cry crocodile tears and accuse you of troonsphobia. Nobody likes gender roles more than trannies and their ball washers.
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>>2370816>I used to live with a fragment of a polyculeMay have brought this on yourself tbh
No. 2370840
>>2370836Me too, I’m a dark skin black woman too. It’s just plain racism when someone calls you a man anyway, it doesn’t mean that you’re one or look like one.
I hate how TRAs always use this argument.
No. 2370849
>>2370836i’m white and never confused a black woman for a man at all kek, they actually tend to be
more feminine in my experiences. it is completely racist/sexist and it pisses me off to even see retards share that sentiment online. i can’t imagine how infuriating it would be for the black nonas here.
tims comparing themselves to what they deem as ‘undesirable’ to project how they feel about themselves is just the biggest giveaway of their intentions.
i’ve never seen it happen (black women being called men) and i don’t think i will, unless by tims coming up with some fantasy world. it’s a total cope from racist tims who need to co-opt anything and everything
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>live to see them die
Whatever hill they're lying on is feeding their delulu a lot.
No. 2371004
>>2362315this genuinely angers me. honest to god it makes my blood boil. i am sadly stuck in a southern state at the moment and what i've seen this week has been horrible. hope i don't doxx myself but
>scrotes holding up confederate flags on the state capitol >plenty of restaurants, public spaces, etc. getting bolder in being pro-racism, trump stickers and maga hats popping up where they never did before >"ice specific" therapists being installed in schools >school board members posting shit like "ice ice baby" .gifs to public feeds>elderly guy calling my office in tears because mr. president trump cancelled medicare and he wants to know if a lawyer could help him (of course that isn't possible) >black friends who work in gov already reporting workplace bullying, because why the fuck would anyone hide it anymore >several local stores ran by hispanic people are closed indefinitely but yes let's worry about the pale they/thems and she/theys i'm sure they're struggling harder than everyone
No. 2371007
>>2370824They were not together or poly or gender special when I moved in, this shit just happens quickly and commonly with people from relatively comfortable backgrounds looking to spice things up with "oppression" where I live.
>>2370836I mean…good for you? I was speaking less about literal misgendering and more of the white supremacist framework of American culture that centers whiteness and others blackness that stems from historically trying to dehumanize black women to justify raping/enslaving them. And how that created and perpetuates harmful stereotypes of black women being seen as unfeminine because they are either aggressively under or over sexualized (mammy, pickaninny, jezebel/sapphire, all the fun racist tropes).
I got told I looked like a boy by other black boys in elementary school sometimes. I didn't, they were being assholes, but that's just my experience.
But yeah TIMs do love bring up black women in really inappropriate and insulting ways to try to validate their self imposed oppression and that's it's own issue.
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i’m not sure if this should go in confessions or not, but, i posted a scrote i hate who i think is going to troon out soon on r/transadorable & passing. i didn’t edit the photo at all but because of these retards standards they were cooming over this ugly, balding, hideous moid and telling me ‘ur so beautiful!’
No. 2371853
>>2370720Every single time I have had the retarded neutral e in Spanish forced onto me it has been by a tif that has notably more feminine presentation than me (in undeniable cultural ways, like heavy makeup, plentiful jewellery, or wearing a dress and heels- or a combination of the three). At this point I am convinced any gnc woman scares them and it’s like a way to self soothe. Granted I also get called a scrote by normies because society here is just conservative enough that wearing no makeup, having short hair, and wearing the men’s t shirt/button up+ cargo shorts + hiking boots combo cues people to assume you’re a moid, but normies course correct quickly with voice or just saying “I’m a woman”. It feels far more deliberate when gendies do it, they continue to insist on it.
For other eslfag/non Anglo nonas, have you noticed that this crop of gendies also usually has the pronouns in English on social media? That’s the pattern I notice with everyone shovelling it onto me- tif, heavily fandom involved, anglicised social media presence with English language they/them pronouns, not even the “Elle” they shill so ardently. Fucking annoying how this shit trickles down to other cultures.
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Kek poor gendies
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>>2371528kek i need to know what he looks like
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>>2371869KEKKK NOO I’VE BEEN EXPOSED
idc abt posting this moid hes a 4chan scrote who self posts No. 2371876
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>>2371873Holy shit dude he looks like fucking asmongold LMFAOOO
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>>2371853Of course the use of @ or X in gendered words was taken from the USA. At least with e sounds better than trying to say Latinxs (Latinequis).
Picrel: More like tell to your gay kid that you're sorry for having homophobic parents.
No. 2371880
>>2371878LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL please show us this
nonnie. total tranny phenotype
>>2369198Lesbians get the hitler treatment for existing. stupid troons
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>>2371876it’s funny you say that. asmongold has reacted to him on stream before KEK
incel documentary No. 2371882
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I bet this is a tif who thinks she looks like a man only because is ugly.
No. 2371885
>>2371853Kek
nonnie, the same has happened to me. These non binary / tifs are always more feminine than your average woman.
No. 2371915
>>2371881God I almost feel bad for incels.
We really need to just euthanize ugly moids with shit personalities.
The guy in the striped shirt is pretty lame looking too.
No. 2371963
>>2371473Amerifag but I get they/them-ed an uncomfortable amount, despite being presenting a ton of cultural signifiers of femininity (exclusively wearing skirts/dresses/tons of jewelry, have a long bob, I'm also a womanlet). I think it might be because my style leans "alternative," but the gendies assume I'm one of their own. It's incredibly unpleasant.
Could also be that the they/them woman MO is dressing really feminine and then reeing at people when they get called women. I hate to think I look as busted as them, though.
No. 2372007
>>2371963>I think it might be because my style leans "alternative," but the gendies assume I'm one of their own. It's incredibly unpleasant. It is unpleasant, BUT it's also hella fun being a secret
terf spy who gets accepted into their group and then afterwards you report all the stupid shit they said to your real
terf friends. And another option is to play a dumb offline normie who has barely heard about troons, they get so dumb-founded when reasonable questions come from someone who looks safe and woke and they're forced to think about it but can't answer.
Especially when you're just happily like "oh I don't care about gender, anyway did you see the new movie-" and just shut down their scripted gender conversations. You were supposed to say "omg trans is so
valid! TWAW! I love pronouns! Trans people are so oppressed! Trump is evil and killing all queers and so is JKR!" and when you don't follow the script - like ALL their woke friends do - it really messes with them. It's like they said "knock knock" and you just didn't answer "who's there?", you broke the social agreement. And because you look "queer", like one of them they don't know what to make of it.
No. 2372040
>>2372007>report all the stupid shit they said to your real terf friendsnta but I wish I had
terf friends. Instead they're all TRA.
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>My hope is for us to all live long enough to be around to see a generation of trans youth who won't believe our stories about how bad things were back in the day.
Right, like the day they didn't have right to vote or legal marriage or even being sick with an illness who no one knew the cure and people were afraid to touch them…
You know, stuff that didn't happen, but I'm sure they'll enjoy to hear how they learned about being trans via porn, how much they cry if they get called sir or leaving women without a safe space because they're more important.
No. 2372099
>>2371853>That’s the pattern I notice with everyone shovelling it onto me- tif, heavily fandom involved, anglicised social media presence with English language they/them pronouns,I swear it's the girliest girls ever, like the living stereotype of the girl who transitions in an attempt to escape a violently misogynistic society but multiplied by 10x. Usually short, stout, babyfaced and sheltered. I cannot stress this enough. Their pronouns do not get given a fuck about outside their friend group and they're too shy to correct anyone but their parents, and even then.
I do feel a little bad for them since they get snapped back to reality in an immediate way either by their parents (based) or by society reminding them that female oppression isn't opt out. we live in a third world country sorry he/him Yuri or whatever you still look like an awkward autistic girl who's going to get mugged>Every single time I have had the retarded neutral e in Spanish forced onto me it has been by a tif that has notably more feminine presentation than meThe only TIFs I've seen even attempting to be masculine were gymrats or in the same category as poor male trannies who literally have to pass or die.
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>>2371860>do NOT be afraid to stand outt. NLOG exactly like the other NLOGs her age, down to the xd quirky thrifted 80s ripoff clothes
That said she's lowkey cute. I can fix her…
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I swear that their paranoia is funny, but not "ha ha" funny. I already felt like that when you started to whine about being included in women's spaces, sports and health. You made your bed, now lie over it.
No. 2372707
Cracks me up that all troons pick the same names… regardless of culture. "Kai" is not a name in my country but all the tifs here don't let that stop them, and they STILL think they can be stealth and pass. Girlie sweetie we can literally clock you just from a name on paper.
To this day I've NEVER met a single tif here with a normal male name. It's always "Americanized" (which obviously isn't common here) or a weeb name. And the American names are often obviously from whatever media they like such as Cass, Ace, Neo, Jasper… it's never just like Eric or Robert.
>>2372691It's tragic/funny that they have to beg for some bare minimum complaints because most people secretly agree with what is happening. Maybe if they hadn't been screeching "no deabte!" every time someone tried to have a reasonable conversation about it they wouldn't have been so blindsided by it all.
No. 2372746
>>2372707They love Andrea here in Italy. Kai is also popular kek.
And troons take names from goddess from the Greek mythology or English name , which sounds odd given where we live.
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Press x to doubt, we know the percent is higher than that, but they're afraid of the backlash that they own do against the detrans people.
>>2372707The consequences of their own actions.
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What I will never understand is that, why is transition such a demand for children? If you ask for a whole sex change under the 18 and your parents say "no". Why not just think "okay when I'm 18 I'm getting it!", but instead it's "I'm killing myself. My whole life revolves around this now and I won't bother to learn how to dress for my desired gender or wear makeup because that's ableist". They terrorize their own parents and friends for years. It all just seems like a tantrum inspired by someone else's experience. Probably one person's experience. Why do they absolutely have to have them transition as kids so bad. This also leads to some kids feeling the need to be martyrs over this ideology because a teen girl killed herself over Donald Trump winning the election? A huge wave of innocence just is stolen by this echo chamber.
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>>2373080For the same reason why minors aren't allowed to drink alcohol or get a tattoo : They can't really grasp the reality about these butchering surgeries, because they were raised with people telling them that no one love them by who they are and that their hobbies means they are not the same sex they were "assigned", so they cannot consent about how much they will live miserably in 10,20 years and such. They believe that the surgery will help them in the future or people's mentality will change and respect their pronouns or name, but that's far from it.
We all have been a dumbass teen, but we are glad that we weren't THAT dumb.
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Oh for fuck’s sake. Why not count all men as lesbians now, why not.
No. 2373356
>>2373342That makes much more sense. I wonder how many parents are spending money they don't have on all this excessive nonsense for that reason. I'm guessing they have no problem paying for
>Name change on ID and Birth certificate>A whole new wardrobe>HRT for the rest of their child's life, copay or not. Insurance or not.>A whole new wardrobe if they want to include being genderfluid again>Expensive surgeries >Expensive puberty blockers>Certain hairstyles or haircuts>Paying for treatment of any medical conditions resulted from the side effects of HRTAll on top of what one would be paying for a child already. Can't skip out any of those things! The child is threatening suicide and you'll be seen as a bigot parent and a Karen!