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No. 2252408

This thread is to discuss your grievances with gender ideology.

>What is gender ideology?

Foundational to transgenderism, gender ideology is the belief that one’s “internal gender” can contradict one’s biological sex.

Gender ideology operates much like a religious cult. There is no scientific evidence that supports the notion that we have an “internal gender,” and yet doctors now medicalize and sterilize children with “transgender identities” who have been groomed by the cult. Anyone who does not reaffirm these delusions is labelled as a “transphobe” in order to discredit any dissenting voices of the cult.

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No. 2252417

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i'm playing agatha knife and it fills my terfy heart with joy

No. 2252458

I have to briefly rant.

I helped started a local mental health support group a few years ago and have been a prominent member ever since. I have done a lot for this group and its become really large and a great resource for the area. I'm now going to have to stop going because ONE tim has started coming and now it's ALL about trans issues. we had our first meeting after the election and allllll we talked about was how hard it was going to be on trans people. like stfu. the tim even talked about how her sister didn't talk to her anymore because of 'the bathroom issue' and everyone else was so shocked and dismayed that anyone could be upset by that.

so i guess i'm just losing that resource for myself now. tims ruin fucking everything.

No. 2252476

>>2252458
It is fantastic how their mere presence can ruin everything. They suck the energy out of the room and divert all remaining attention towards the wrong causes. I wouldn't even min working with handmaidens/tims to achieve important things that I care about if they weren't so fucking destructive.

No. 2252509

>>2252458
There are probably people who feel the same way you do. If you have a good relationship with people charge, and they haven't drunk the koolaid, ask them to keep the trans talk in check, because all the troon talk crowds out talk about the people in Gaza or whatever other discussions would override their cater to troons reaction.
Or try to find the others who hate all the trans talk and try and take them with you to start your own group.

No. 2252548

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had the misfortune of stumbling across this ugly mug eugh

No. 2252567

>>2252548
Does he think it's marketable and kawaii when East Asians do something but it's evil and misandrist when western women do the same thing?

No. 2252573

>>2252567
NTA but it's because troons have been asking if they're allowed in the 4B movement and of course the answer is no, completely unaware of the fact that Asian women wouldn't tolerate their fetish bullshit either

No. 2252588

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why are these people so hellbent on ruining everything

No. 2252752

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I know this thread is going to be biased here but the tinfoil thread is the most unmedicated thing I've ever seen so I ask here: do we think this is actually the work of troons, or is this transparently a psyop? I just feel like troon sentiment is more likely to be "4B is an inclusive movement for ALL women!" and this is just attempting to poison the notion by tainting it with the terf label.

No. 2252759

>>2252752
Trannies be pissed. As if mentioning trannies in a women's celibacy movement constituted conveying essential information. It's a dogwhistle for trannies to attack yet another enemy.

No. 2252771

>>2252752
A tranny definetly wrote that. I've been seeing first hand the women interested in joining the 4B movement in the west but absolutely no talk of troons is there. Take notice of the fact that troons are immediately painted as the victim and are mentioned on the wiki page before there's any context of 4B's history or why it's a movement to begin with.

No. 2252786

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>>2252548
West 4B is a hate group for moids and tims, that's the difference.

No. 2252788

Happy vent; spent the afternoon talking to my almost-terf friend about troon issues and it was a nice bonding experience! She's peaked in most areas but still believe in trutrans, if the troon in question makes effort to actually pass and gets close enough she'll call them their preferred pronouns. I'm glad she's gotten this far, but is there a way to get someone to see how trutrans isn't right either?

No. 2252795

>>2252771
It’s not surprising but I am so sad to see the discussion of 4B move from the subject of women’s oppression to focusing on the exclusion of TiMs.
Not that long ago wasn’t there a story about a TiM Wikipedia editor editing articles to be trans inclusive at the detriment of the article itself?

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>>2252752
>misandric website
KEK
Only slightly related, but a while ago me and a friend were looking at the GC feminism wiki page to see how biased it was, and we were surprised that 4B wasn't mentioned or linked in the South Korean section. Maybe because this this quote from picrel:
>"the radical stance of today's [young] feminists has a tendency to emphasize the identity of the 'female body' as based on the category of the 'biological woman,' taking an attitude of excluding 'biological' men refugees, and transgender people"
Is directly at odds with this part from the 4B wiki page:
>The 4B movement is meant to serve as a direct opposition to South Korea’s patriarchal state and combat its pro-natalist policies, which view women’s bodies and reproductive abilities as tools for the state’s future.

No. 2252823

>>2252588
It's always the nerdy and/or socially awkward male characters. I think it really says something that Tifs don't see non traditional males as men. That men are supposed to be very masculine or they won't count. Funny considering most Tifs try to look like flamboyant anime twinks.

No. 2252917

>>2252823
Believe me they put that shit on traditionally male characters too it's disgusting. (Example: I've seen lots of trans Wolverine and those guys from Call of duty and Hanzo from Overwatch) No one is safe from their degeneracy

No. 2253224

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No. 2253294

>>2252752
What a horrible understanding of Korean feminism.

No. 2253309

>>2253224
Of course it's a Tumblr tif saying this. No moid or troon would ever include us "cissie" women in their activism, I'm tired of seeing this. Anyway we are very beautiful and divine and feminine thanks to our womanhood.

No. 2253359

>>2253224
We need to make her right though. We need to actually start doing this.

No. 2253381

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>>2252752
>>2252771

trannies stay telling everyone that they are moids in disguise kek like way to make sure everybody knows that trans women aren't real women at all with the way they insert themselves into a conversation like this

No. 2253674

>>2250687
late but is this bait? no need to exaggerate things or make them up, that just gives fodder for trannies claiming everyone's out to get them and everything bad said about them is made up. op can just tell that a male being present made her uncomfortable and felt inapproppriate.
also wtf "he felt able to be silly with you", that's so unprofessional and inaproppriate in the situation.

No. 2253693

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What's the best site to peak people? For me it's https://transcrimeuk.com - just a single glance leaves the person unsettled. Then you can add that every single one of them has the legal right to be imprisoned in the facilities of their 'declared gender'.

>>2252458
Can't he be reined in by the wrangler-in-chief? There are narc people out there who just love making everything about themselves and turn groups into their personal circlejerks - the staff should know better.

>>2252509
Or just approach it from a professional standpoint - everybody should get equal time to talk about their problems without interruption and derailing.

No. 2253742

>>2253693
i remember a site called something like "this never happens" that was basically your uk site except worldwide. had no luck when i tried finding it a while back though

No. 2253744

>>2253224
>ciscentric, liberal, white feminism
I hate how trannies just expect women of color to fall in line for their cause.

No. 2253751


No. 2253761

>>2252788
>She's peaked in most areas but still believe in trutrans, if the troon in question makes effort to actually pass and gets close enough she'll call them their preferred pronouns.
Does she truly believe that they're female brained or is she just being nice? I hope the latter, because believing trannies based on how well they perform femininity (or masculinity) is misogynistic. Even if a troon genuinely passes (and they virtually never do), managing to fool people with makeup and surgery does not change your sex. If she's just being nice to them, then you could point out that gender ideology is homophobic. A lot of the troons that care about passing are HSTS so by entertaining them you're basically OK with transing the gays and reinforcing stereotypes. Also, by entertaining "truscums", you're preventing them from getting actual help for whatever causes their dysphoria. We know now that "gender care" does not lower suicide rates or improve trannies' mental health in general so what's the point of playing along.

No. 2253766

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No. 2253781

>>2253224
>[women] feel the need to be radicalized but don't have the experience and information to pinpoint the true source of their suffering
That shit is so so SO insulting. At this point any libfem who doesn't flinch reading stuff like that has had her brain too fried to be saved. Imagine claiming that women who (rightfully) think that being born female is the root of their suffering at the hands of males are just lacking experience and information. Then whining about muh white feminism on top of that. Bitch you're the one who hasn't stopped to think even one second about non-western countries. On what basis do you think women are discriminated against from birth and married off as children? You're crying about your labels and identities on tumblr ffs. You cannot make any other movement look more self and US centric than your own.

>>2252819
>>2252752
Not sure where to ask this but where can we find actual 4B communities online? or even just social media accounts? I'd love to be able to follow a bunch of like-minded women on mainstream social media like insta but it seems impossible

No. 2253797

>>2253781
>where can we find actual 4B communities online?
https://lolcow.farm/2X/res/36210.html

No. 2253888

>>2253761
>Does she truly believe that they're female brained or is she just being nice?
I think she thinks they have "female coded" brains. She understands they're biologically male, but that they have gender dysphoria which makes them have "female coded" brains so they're trutrans and the transition is the only cure. She'd agree with every single point I make against trans, but still turn around and go "and think of the poor real transwomen getting lumped in with these degenerate AGPS". I'm scared it will alienate her if I straight up go "um actually they're equally bad". She knows who Blair White is so I think that's the cohort of troons she's thinking of.

I've brought up pretty much every thing you can think of: the homophobia, transing gay away, autism overlap, fetishes, misogyny, opportunistic surgeons, untrue stats like 42%, detrans rates, abused kids… and she agrees! And then still goes "but REAL trans people…" I just don't know how to make that last part click for her! I think perhaps what she needs is for some famous troon she (presumably) watches like Blaire to come out and detrans while explaining they've always been men and trutrans was never real.

No. 2253906

>>2252788
>>2253888
give it time. it sounds like she's almost completely peaked and just isn't fully there yet out of misplaced compassion. unless there's a reason to be urgent, like if you're worried she's going to date a troon or transition herself, then i wouldn't push it too much and let her come to that realization on her own

No. 2254034

can someone explain to me how a person becomes so obsessed with their body and sexuality it becomes this kind of movement. these people seem to have nothing else going on in their lives and function on the lowest level possible (physical, sexuality and performance)

No. 2254039

>>2253888
>She knows who Blair White is so I think that's the cohort of troons she's thinking of.
So, the man who makes blatant racist and antifeminist content and says rape culture isn't real? That's a true "woman brained" trutranny? Libfems are cooked. Even in my most handmaiden moments when I wanted to like him to convince myself I wasnt twansphobic I knew he was a gross, sexist man like any other.

No. 2254048

>>2254034
>these people seem to have nothing else going on in their lives and function on the lowest level possible
The answer's right here. Getting your friends to call you by a new name is an easy goal, buying a binder is an easy goal, too. Getting a stupid haircut, buying shitty clothes, designing pride flags for your own brand of neurotic heterosexuality…all of these are cheap and easy dopamine hits for lame human slugs that don't have the capacity for anything greater. Gender obsession genuinely feels like a symptom of a deep depression. It gives the illusion of self-improvement without any of the icky effort parts.

No. 2254055

>>2254034
>how a person becomes so obsessed with their body and sexuality
- OCD
- AGP
- being a narc
- autism and the love of categorisation that comes with it

No. 2254060

>>2254034
brainrot. It has to be. I think for some reason, their are emotionally unstable. For men, it's because they watch so much porn, they want to pretend to be women. For women who are often told they are nothing and constantly critiqued, it's because they want to pretend to be men so they dont suffer as a woman. I feel like it all goes down to self hate for women and brain rot/porn for men.

No. 2254098

>>2254048
I also think being trans gives you the green light to kill your former self. You can change your name, your interests, have new and achievable goals like you said, and anyone who brings up your past self or questions it is committing an actual war crime. When you’re uncomfortable with yourself and want to rebrand, trans ideology gives a very appealing alternative to the hard work of just being a better person.

No. 2254163

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God forbid women have friend groups that don’t include men.

No. 2254195

>>2254163
literal dehumanization here

No. 2254215

>>2254163
This is how you can tell the retards are peaking, they're all queer nonbinary transmascs and still twansphobic kek. Even the most spineless of handmaidens know to stay away from the devil.

No. 2254230

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Maybe trump getting elected was a good thing if these freaks join the 41 percent. But they’ll probably just go back into boymode

No. 2254244

>>2254230
Trump loves troons, don't expect anything

No. 2254269

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>>2254230
What gets me is that it's not even that trannies are just mentally ill and think they're in the "wrong bodies". Trannies seem to regularly be horrible and dangerous people that need to be isolated from society. Like, holy shit. A coworker told me all these horrible things about what her "sister" got into and what her "sister" would do to her and their mom. Then, the coworker tells me that her "sister" is trans. Suddenly, the drug addiction and perpetration of domestic violence makes sense. When she basically told me that her "sister" was actually a male, it all started making sense.

No. 2254273

>>2254244
the only thing he has promised thats actually achievable is making troonery not be catered by insurance anymore, the annoucement was like two days ago or some shit that they will be pursuing that route lol

No. 2254281

>>2253224
>cis women terfs are going to try and recruit you
>recruit
FUCKING KEKKK
>all men are your violent oppressors
But that's the truth, Tiffany.
>divine feminine
We don't talk about that libfem nonsense.

No. 2254286

>>2254230
A lot of them are probably already in boymode anyway. They're only "girls" on the internet or when they want to barge into a female-only space.

No. 2254293

>>2254163
Or maybe they don't want males in their group because men and women are different, male trannies are porn-obsessed freaks without fail, and women with similar interests stick together, and even female gendies subconsciously pick up on that despite trying to force themselves to accept porn-addicted males.
>the group is trying to make itself unsafe for trans women
Yeah I'm sure those oversensitive enbies who have never been to a gym in their life are intentionally trying to appear threatening to hulking men, and not trying to protect themselves from members of the sex that is more likely to have rapists and predators, or sticking together because they actually understand each other and have many things in common like any normal group of friends (touch grass tranny)
>there's this fun double standard where trans women are not allowed to discuss the social dynamics of assigned gender
>callenging social dynamics assigned gender queer spaces
All this pseudointellectual nonsense just to say that you're offended that women don't want to be around you because you're a fucking creep kekekek

No. 2254305

>>2254281
>>divine feminine
>We don't talk about that libfem nonsense.
Unfortunately there are a lot of idiots on Xitter who call themselves radfems or GCs but believe in that tradfag shit. They make such compelling arguments as
>these girls are just confused because they need to nurture their divine feminine energy
or something like that. How is that not the same logic conservative tradfags use and making the problem worse?

No. 2254306

This is kinda stupid but I love when trannies seethe over my little brother. I feel so smug. They're convinced he's an egg or something but he firmly knows he's just a gay dude and he hates trannies with a passion. It breaks their minds and it's so funny. Tims wish they could be as 'feminine' and tifs wish they were 'soft bois' like that
>shy, quiet
>favourite colours are pastels
>loves shoujo manga and bl
>hates violent games/movies/shows
>especially hates gore so hates horror movies
>likes cleaning and learning to bake
I have a similar effect on tifs, they assume I'm non-binary or some sort of genderkweer, fucking hilarious kek. Just because
>deep voice
>unshaven, no makeup
>in comspci
>stereotypically 'masculine' interests
I always make sure to proudly mention I'm a woman. Tifs wish they could be as 'masculine' and tims are just… creeps as usual

No. 2254310

>>2254230
Male trannies are the least oppressed motherfuckers ever. Take off the wig and makeup, Timothy. You'll be just fine.

No. 2254317

>>2254163
It's funny because it's fully true that TIFs stick together and almost never interact with TIMs, but it's because TIMs share practically none of the same hobbies TIFs have, and if they do, it's either to larp or to coom. TIFs aren't making it "unsafe," in fact they fall over themselves trying to prove their best ally ever status, it's simply they don't like lolicon hentai coomshit and TIMs do. TIMs alienate TIFs and then act like they're being discriminated against because TIFs didn't recruit them to join their yaoi/crochet/Animal Crossing/OC autism servers. Like no shit, men who jerk off on Reddit all day and won't shut up about their niche subculture of grindcore and MDMA and programmer socks have nothing in common with women who want to talk about Genshin Impact yaoi. I guess the latter is just really evil or something.

No. 2254343

>>2254317
no literally. I can't see how she thinks "let's bring a random hairy gay man on our shopping trip so we look more diverse" is less objectifying than hanging out with people who have the same interests as you. but I am pretty sure that person is an adult woman who had a goth phase in her 30s and larps as gerard way so of course she's mentally 12 years old

No. 2254361

>>2254273
That is a huge and great thing, we don’t have to pay for these surgeries and synthetic hormones. They should pay it out of their own pockets.

No. 2254502

>>2254306
Reminds me of a gay guy in a server I'm in that just accepts he's a male and wears a lot of cutesy clothes and has a lot of stereotypically "feminine" behaviors, vs the agp troon that has typically male interests, narcissistic personality, talks over everyone else, retweets coomshit on his twitter and calls himself a lesbian. He also constantly tries to push any vaguely gnc men into transitioning to the point where I feel second hand embarrassment watching it happen. Like I actually start feeling bad for the moids he's doing this to because it seems so obnoxious and they either ignore him or tell him to fuck off and he just keeps doing it anyway.

No. 2254504

>>2254034
It's because the trans movement is a cult that promises cures and betterments to all and every problem a person could possibly have.
Lonely? Trans family and community will always be there for you!
Feeling like you're not one of the cool kids? You can be the most rare person, trans!
Hate your body? It's because your body is wrong, cut it up and take hormones, look how hot you could be (never mind the photoshopping done here!)
Female and hate male sexual advances? It's because you're really a man! And if you transition into the man you're meant to be the harassment will go away!
Male and hate how other men are harassing women? You're clearly not a real man then, you must be a woman too and not an evil cis straight man
Feeling like you want to sexually harass women too but it makes you feel guilty? Don't worry, you're just a transbian and not an evil sexist cis straight guy like them so it's ok when you do it!
Gay and hated for it? No, no, you're just straight and trans
White and feeling guilty about racism? Don't worry you're also oppressed as a trans person so you're not the oppressor anymore
Ugly? Of course you don't fit into cis beauty standards, you are above that because you're a holy trans who can't be judged
Into kids and animals? Don't worry, the trans movement will cover for you!

And remember, everyone else hates you and wants you dead. Only us trans accept you, and we love you. They will drive you to kill yourself. But we can save you. What do you have to lose little egg, when the only other option is that you kill yourself?

No. 2254507

>>2254502
Samefag it's even dumber when he does this to dudes that basically act the same as any regular guy (including being coomers) and their only "gnc" behavior is basically having longer hair and being passive nerdy types instead of having a more dominant personality. As if that means they're a woman automatically somehow

No. 2254621

>>2254163
Is it also discriminatory for TIMs to hang out in furry gooner discord servers with no women and all dress the same? Or is that normal and morally pure?

No. 2254803

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I was watching the video of that faggot Nick Fuentes and found this comment replying to another comment saying "W Nick" and agreeing with him. My tranny radar went off. That profile picture, the she/her pronouns on it's bio and the "NatSoc" in it's username. When it replied to me I realised I was right kek. They're so fucking obvious and they don't even know it. Forget about passing in real life, you can't even pass in a measly youtube comment section, filthy trannoid.

No. 2254825

>>2253224
>cis woman terfs are going to try and recruit you
Kek reminds me of vidrel

No. 2254945

>>2254305
maybe it's OT but I don't think you can really consider yourself a radfem if you believe in that "divine feminine" bs, it's just repackaged religious doctrine reinforcing gender roles under the guise of spirituality. Are we talking about hollowearthterf here? Isn't she into some woo woo crap?

No. 2255009

we now have pickmes in the 4B movement trying their hardest to make sure that trannies feel safe in the movement kek. they're dropping book titles like scum manifesto but then add a million qualifiers like TRANS WOMEN ARE WOMEN IF YOU ARE TRANSPHOBIC BLOCK ME NAO I AM NOT A TERF like baby maybe this is not the movement for you

No. 2255059

>>2255009
I honestly think some of them are cryptos who are too scared to speak up about trannies but understand the danger women are in

No. 2255065

>>2255009
I wish pick mes would 41% at this point. Sick of them trying to make women only spaces open for men.

No. 2255287

>>2255009
jfc these retards are going to ruin the image of western 4b before it even gets started. ive been seeing a handful of trannies asking if theyre welcome in the movement. if you have to ask if you're welcome in the movement, you know good and damn well it isn't made for you. luckily lots of them have been rejecting the movement, dismissing it as too radical and misandrist. they're rly telling on themselves tho, being the only "women" outspoken on the man hate involved in the movement

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I like sneaking in the word "self-id" when going crypto in discussions since the first results on google show matter of fact statements that are hard to interpret as "ebil terf propaganda". hopefully trannies dont catch on and do damage control by vandalizing the wiki page

No. 2255376

>>2254621
It’s always rules for us and not for them. Women can’t organize among themselves, while they deserve trans spaces kek

No. 2255498

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tl;dr putting trans people in camps… won't include putting trans people in camps??..

if you know you're not getting put in camps then stop fucking saying it. there are actual people being tortured in camps right now because newsflash idiot WARS are still a thing. but of course trannies in a first world country have it just as bad as them! trannies have it so bad they can be considered camp prisoners without ever being to a fucking camp! listen and learn, cissoids

No. 2255503

I saw some terf on X/twitter say that it should be made illegal to knowingly use wrong sex documents. The same way if you get a seizure disorder or eye problems and then get caught driving or operating heavy machinery on purpose anyway you're committing an illegal irresponsible act that puts others at risk of harm. I think that's such a good idea, it covers troons, but also people with DSDs who got the wrong papers at birth only to then learn the truth when for example their balls dropped and it's clear they were always just male. And even IF someone like Imane managed to purposely avoid all doctors to claim he didn't know he's male, the second he does get a test it makes it illegal to continue after that regardless of if he reveals the results to the world or not.
It's such an obvious idea, idk why it's not a thing already.

No. 2255510

Anyone else say they're against child genital mutilation only for some TRA to smugly go "oh so you're against male circumcision at birth too???" As if that's some major gotcha lmao yes I'm against cutting up male baby genitals too why the fuck wouldn't I be. I want zero baby genitials to be mutilated for aesthetics or otherwise, it's not that hard to grasp.

No. 2255511

>>2255498
Kek does this hulking hon think grandmas out there scoring back alley estradiol for her menopause? The people who need hormone treatment are definitely getting them without mutilating themselves and there’s tons of medical reasons for a doctor to safely prescribe them.

No. 2255514

>>2255498
Trannies, the reason most groups who have gone through persecution or genocide can even point it out is because IT'S CLEAR THAT THEY'RE BEING PERSECUTED AND GENOCIDED. If you have to twist yourself into knots explaining why your non-violent "oppression" at the hands of a system which throws money, pills and surgery at you upon request is just like being put into camps, you're not being put into fucking camps.

No. 2255635

>>2255498
Damage control looks like pretending that a man masturbating in a woman's bathroom and uploading it to Reddit will only be arrested for public indecency because he wore a dress in public. Damage control looks a hell of a lot like the freakout the TIMs had when pedos got the death sentence in Florida.
They know their movement is losing support. I can't wait for the tranny ass licking phase to end and all the 'I want to put women through the woodchipper and shit on the remains lololol uwu' posts to have actual consequences.
>>2255503
With the backlash from Imane's case, this might actually be implemented. Fingers crossed.

No. 2255673

>>2254507
Tbf he’ll probably have a significantly better chance with those guys.

>>2255498
They may have been assigned privileged at birth but they identify as oppressed. How dare you question their declared identity? Transpressed people don’t owe you actualgenocidenormativity, bigot.

>>2255510
I kept seeing this with criticism of child drag queens, too.
>Oh but you’re fine with child beauty pageants!??
No I’m not, those are horrible too. But unlike child drag queens and drag queen story hour, child beauty pageants don’t exist where I live so obviously I’m not going to focus on them. Likewise circumcision of infants is extremely unpopular where I live but FGM is still practiced by certain communities and is also objectively worse.
They’re purely gotchas by people who don’t actually care about the other problem either and just want to shut feminists up.

No. 2255687

>>2255510
This shit happens every time you bring up FGM, not only with troons but men in general. I fucking hate them.

No. 2255803

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>not a mental illness, guys!

No. 2255823

>>2255498
How dare he say that when places like Manus island and Xinjiang internment camps still exist.

No. 2255833

>>2255673
Can we add in the gotcha of
>Oh, but you’re okay with cis women getting boob jobs and rhinoplasties to improve their appearance?

No, I think that anyone who’s getting plastic surgery for purely cosmetic reasons should be forced to undergo a psychological evaluation to address the underlying issue of why they hate their body before jumping into an unnecessary surgery, and that cosmetic surgeons are vampires who prey on people’s insecurities.

No. 2255858

The tranny puppygirl shit is starting to ruin the concept of baby dogs for me. Why doesn't castrating these retards making them stop posting their coomer trash everywhere?

No. 2255967

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jennie hodgers was a poor immigrant who had to dress as a boy to work in an all-male shoe factory, she joined the union army for financial reasons and was placed in a battalion of mostly teenage boys, after the war she still hid her gender for her veteran's pension, she has never been a trans man

No. 2255968

>>2255803
TIMs would definitely harvest women's organs if they could
>>2255858
Don't let them ruin it for you nonna. I just see their puppygirl shit as entirely separate to any of the cute animals they try to appropriate.

No. 2255970

>>2255967
It's been recorded through out history about women hiding their gender because of sexism. I hate trans allies so much. They are so brain dead.

No. 2256058

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Total tranny death.

No. 2256068

>>2256058
This is "not true" meanwhile the moment you say that asexual people do not exist they always go "well, they face corrective rape!!"
Sexual assault repackaged

No. 2256078

>>2256058
Hard to tell apart trolls from genuine posts in 2024…

No. 2256247

>>2256058
Disgusting.

No. 2256257

>>2255970
No no anon if a woman doesn’t like sexism that makes her a man. True women love being dependent on men and having baby after baby until her body gives out. If any woman in history complained about this in any way that is irrefutable proof she had a man-soul and any suffering she endured during her life was transphobia, not misogyny.

No. 2256400

>>2256058
Feminist and detrans tags on every site imaginable are full of rape fetish posts like these

No. 2256501

>>2255498
>criminalizing posession of estradiol or testosterone without a prescription
??? Isn't it already illegal to own testosterone without a prescription in most places? So TiFs would already be closer to "being put in camps", but I'm sure that this guy would still think that "transmisogyny" against men in dresses and makeup trumps all.

No. 2256587

>>2255803
we all know if transmen aka real women all grew a dick and balls transwomen would be frothing at the mouth to get theirs back again so they could keep invading female spaces

No. 2256659

>>2254039
Speaking of Blaire White, he now openly calls himself a man openly in interviews. I think he's a future detransitioner. But I also think it won't happen until it gives him maximum attention and benefits, and that he'll keep up the aesthetics so the detransing is mostly in name only.

No. 2256679

>>2256058
kek every male attention whore online has always either been like
>"I'm a girl!!! boyz plz msg me"
or
>"RAPE!!!! LOL U MAD?"
and literally every single one is born to die alone because no one can stand them.

No. 2256995

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lol at this academically renowned troon admitting it in 1994, modern troons clap and cheer

No. 2257016

>>2255967
>>2255970
>>2256257
Even a fictional story like Mulan (not the Disney version) is treated like "she knew she was a man all along", not because she wanted to save her dad while going to war and in fear to be caught and killed by the same army.
TIFs and TRAS ruin everything.

No. 2257150

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>>2257016
The Disney version of Mulan also attracts TIFs like flies to shit even though the message of the movie is explicitly that women can be just as brave and heroic as men, if not more so. Mulan drops the man disguise the second she doesn’t need it anymore yet they’re still convinced she’s TIF representation. The training montage song especially brings out the brainworms.
>it says to be a man you have to be swift as a coursing river, it doesn’t say you have to have been born with a penis!!1
Funnily enough, most TIMs I know who’ve seen the movie hate it and say the scene where the guys from the army dress up as ugly women is transphobic.

No. 2257184

I hate to be bringing a stupid and probably already asked question to this thread but it won't get out of my mind… If a tif gets bottom surgery, does the period still come? Does it come out of the new peehole "as intended" or somewhere else? Does it just get trapped in there? Google is not helping me right now and I really would not like to imagine this any further.

No. 2257185

>>2257184
I think that if they’re far enough down the transition pipeline that they qualify for fauxloplasty they’ve already had a hysterectomy and no longer menstruate. Maybe an exception is made for those extra deranged nonbinary/hermaphrodite surgeries where the surgeons try to keep the original genitalia intact while creating a facsimile of the opposite sex genitalia, though I’ve only ever heard of TIMs getting those. TIFs who want a dick while keeping their female reproductive system intact tend to focus on increasing the size of their clitoris and pretend it’s a micropenis.

No. 2257213

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Then why people are so obsessed into "breaking eggs", Jarvis?
https://x.com/deviilchurch/status/1855783268559253558

No. 2257219

>>2257213
They always try to run away from responsability even though they're the ones pushing this shit onto young vaguely gnc people in the first place

No. 2257222

>>2257185
Nta but tifs who get the fake sausage while keeping the original vagina with clit definitely exist, I remember I saw a picture in the tif thread years ago. Something about the vagina still being used for sex, peeing and sensation (fuck dysphoria I guess right?). It's so fucking disgusting. Luckily I doubt they still menstruate because the hormones or birth control/hysterectomy would stop it, but still…

No. 2257235

>>2257222
nayrt, but uhh, why would the pipes be redirected to pee from the vagina? that sounds more risky

No. 2257505

File: 1731434792029.png (2.48 MB, 1040x1298, Elleot_Pigeonsandfries.png)

>>2257184
>If a tif gets bottom surgery, does the period still come?
Ftm bottom surgery typically involves getting a hysterectomy to remove the uterus. A period is the lining of the uterus getting shed and bled out, so they no longer get that.
If the tif (often non-binary, but sometimes a regular tif) chose to keep their female parts, but also add a sausage skin tube "dick" to their crotch above it, they could still possibly get a period from their vagina as normal.
However they likely also take hrt which COULD be making them infertile, but it's not guaranteed. Picrel is an irresponsible ftm who accidentally got pregnant while taking testosterone, which has resulted in her baby seemingly having some developmental issues (she's a terrible mother in many other ways too, but I digress). If a woman takes testosterone regularly she will HAVE to get a hysterectomy within about 4 years as it leads to vaginal atrophy and other complications. If not, she could fucking die.

On a similar note, there are detrans (and likely some who still identify as trans) who have removed their breasts only to then get pregnant and find out their bodies still have milk ducts that produce milk - which is now trapped inside their chests and can't get out because the nipples are typically removed and placed in another location on the chest. Detrans women report this is incredibly painful. And since it's a new phenomenon there is no medical professional who knows how to deal with it, so they're stuck with this horror without help.

No. 2257554

>>2257505
That poor baby. And damn, the mother does not pass even remotely. She might be the most cutesy, baby-faced adult TIF I’ve ever seen and that’s saying something.
I’d never heard of post-mastectomy mastitis but that sounds excruciating. Mastitis is painful enough when the sufferer has functional nipples to expel the milk from but when the inflamed ducts are covered in layers of scar tissue? Body horror. I suppose doctors could puncture the individual ducts through the scar tissue but that would just be asking for further infection. I know a woman whose mastitis was so resistant to other forms of treatment that doctors decided to cauterise the affected milk ducts. Maybe they’ll start doing that as part of TIF mastectomies too, just in case.

No. 2257565

A sad thing about gender ideology is that when you grew up with it (like I did) you've been trained to not trust your instincts anymore about threatening people…

Even after peaking it still lingers, I was trained to shut down those thoughts and feelings that the hulking man in a dress could possibly be a threat. Him staring at me like I'm a piece of meat and asking overly person questions about periods or girlhood - that's just a little transgirl being curious about her own lost girlhood, she means no harm! Don't be a bigot and think of it as creepy or wrong, suppress the feeling of wanting to run away. Ignore the feeling of discomfort when he's in a women's only space with you, she's only trying to pee!

And now I'm left feeling a bit broken. Too often do I notice a creepy man, and notice that I just accepted him being there and acting creepy when a reasonable person would just get the fuck away or tell him to fuck off. I act accordingly when I catch myself suppressing my real instincts, but it just really sucks to realize I'm in this position. What if that period of silent "acceptance" is all he needs to attack me or someone else?

No. 2257652

>>2255290
>my homestate in Mexico hasn't fallen for the gendie tendie meme
Thank God

No. 2257709

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No. 2257723

>>2252408
One of the TIMs actually harassed me and used the fact that I'm a Rush (the Canadian prog rock band) fan against me

No. 2257747

>>2257709
woman is when hair

No. 2257793

>>2254306
Late but gnc people (or even people who don't overperform femininity or masculinity) profoundly and deeply irritate gendies and troons. Both gnc real people and gnc fictional characters are an easy green light to a gendie to immediately dump their insecurities onto. Fucks sake kek, even "gnc" troons that are fakebois in frilly pastel clothing or masculine TIMs are more well accepted and coddled. Why are they the ones who have to jump through hoops to feel good in their femininity or masculinity and we're the insecure bigots opposing rebellion? As a matter of fact I don't want to hear shit from women too scared to wear cargo pants or wear pink without a he/they pronoun pin. Weak bitches.

No. 2258002

>>2257723
KEKKKK

No. 2258591

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Said by someone who close their eyes at the news of children being abused, TIMS crying gender shit and more because "it doesn't represent the whole collective".

No. 2258592

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>>2258591
>trans people existing does not harm anyone
I think these people beg to differ.

No. 2258668

>>2258592
who are these people?

No. 2258669

>>2258668
Nashville shooting victims

No. 2258675

>>2257709
>"long hair is not an expression of femininity for me"
So close to getting it, yet so far.
God it must be so fucking tiring having to justify every single little thing you do, even things that are automatic like the hair that grows on your head. Even if they don't tell anyone just having to do it to yourself must be so exhausting, I can't imagine going "I-it's n-not(!!!) to be feminine!! It makes me feel uhh like a shrekian creature of the dark!! Yes, not Fiona, but Shrek!!! Pink shoes uhh no I'll wear the grey ones, that's more manly I mean enby, don't want people thinking I'm too feminine or anything! But if I do add a pink flower that's because I AM expressing femininity, but only a tiny bit as I'm not a woman and all women only express femininity all the time, I'm just a super special non-binary"
They should just peak, detrans, and stop caring so they can enjoy the world instead.

No. 2258679

>>2258591
I have a male tw/X mutual with a following who very aggressively posts shit like this ALL the time. It's always "trans people have zero negative impact on my life, if you have a problem with them you're just a bigot who should die". Yeah of course you as a man can ignore the harm trans people do to women, children and mentally ill people. And of course it benefits you to throw vulnerable people under the bus to uphold fetishists when they pay your social media salary as long as you keep screaming their political propaganda…

No. 2258804

>>2258679
I have a mutual who I have seen being so vocal about trans rights until he became a TIM to then… Be non-binary and then TIM again. Is like for moids is easier to just place the "trans" tag over them and ignore the damage others do on women, child and ill people with their attitude.

No. 2258853

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Why are TIMs and especially TIFs act more stereotypically masculine or feminine respectively? I've never seen a TIF into guns, sports, or vintage computers. TIMs sometimes try to skinwalk stereotypically female interests but always end up dropping them out of boredom. I've never seen a TIM write 100k+ gay slowburn or knit proficiently. Picrel is an adult TIF I found on the LPS subreddit who recommended an e-therapy service that will churn out a letter for a titchop a day after your appointment.

No. 2258886

>>2257505
She sounds insufferable. I can't remember her being posted in the TIF threads, we need more cows like her. I feel so bad for her daughter. Being born retarded because of her mom's narcissism, doomed to be treated like a toy because of her mom's hatred of women. I hope she breaks free from her in the future and learns to love herself as she is without feeling like she has to destroy her mind and body for attention from internet strangers.
>>2257565
That's dangerous and good on you for working on undoing the damage. Keep working on it, it takes time but you sound like you already made good progress.

No. 2258895

>>2258591
"Does nothing negative to your life", meanwhile everyone has to walk on eggshells around these freaks and play along with their delusions otherwise you're a bigot and should be raped and killed. Even excluding all the shit they're pushing onto gnc, mentally ill people and kids, I can't even be in online groups or fandoms anymore without some tranny shitting things up and being a nuisance. Or read medical information about women without some retarded term like "pregnant people". But surely they're "doing nothing negative to my life".

They really want to pretend they're the same as a gay or a black person with this rethoric but it just doesn't work when their movement is literally about forcing others around them to perceive them the same way they do. If a black person was alone on a deserted island they would still be black, you can't say the same for a tranny whose whole existence relies on capitalism and other people's perceptions 24/7. Without asspats, validation and gender roles that are socially enforced, they would have nothing. Their existence relies on being a nuisance to others but they will still hypocritically say shit like this and I'm sick of it.

No. 2258899

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>>2258853
I'm so tired of seeing that ugly titchop BJD. She did a horrible job painting the head. Thick swaths of acrylic paint on resin(If it's even printed in resin to begin with) is a terrible idea and there's no blushing. I also hate seeing the most cutesy shit ever of a male character with top surgery scars slapped on. Picrel is a Fortnite character kek

No. 2258902

>>2258899
There was some poor Chinese sweatshop worker who sewed those titchops..just fucking imagine that..

No. 2258903

>>2258679
>>2258804
Lol, why don’t you just unfollow/mute these people? After I peaked I unfollowed/muted every single friend who posted pro-tranny content on social media (even the people I interact with IRL) and it made my internet experience so much less stressful.

No. 2258910

>>2258899
i hate that you can't tell from a glance that the nose isn't a mouth because it's so straight and the actual mouth is so pale

No. 2258914

>>2258899
So ugly
>>2258903
Not those anons but for unfollowing it can be difficult if they ask you why or you have mutual friends, at worst they can even accuse you of being transphobic and try to ostracize you from your groups. Muting though, yeah. I've muted basically every person that ended up trooning out so I don't see their retardation on my timeline

No. 2258922

Is all the cutting off breasts thing caused by porn? If these women weren't exposed to porn where breasts are so fetishized, would they even get the idea that they want to remove a body part to stop being sexualized by disgusting moids?

>>2258902
Hopefully it's done by a machine lol that thing is atrocious

No. 2258932

>>2255498
It is already illegal to have testosterone without a prescription… I see a TIM who hasn't ever been to a gym and knows nothing about sports wrote that. How does he not know that?

No. 2258935

>>2258899
This is gross and I feel bad for whoever had to sew that

No. 2258937

>>2258922
For me personally I hated the size and shape of my boobs when I was younger. I'm doing better now, I accept my body, but because they're bigger than average it really did cause a lot of problems for me. Bras felt shitty and I felt uncomfortable when people sexualized me because of their size. I was already big boobed by the time I was 13-14. I wear plain fruit of the loom bras now and most of the discomfort is gone. Most. You can never underestimate what a good comfy bra can do for you. I don't care about designs anymore but that also was a big deal for me growing up, not being able to wear cute age appropriate bra designs in my size as I grew up.

No. 2258946

>>2258944
exulansic made some videos about pigeonsandfries, iirc her daughter doesn't appear to be hitting certain developmental milestones. i don't remember if she was on T while pregnant, might have been at least for a while because she was somehow surprised she got pregnant. she thought it would somehow work as a contraceptive. she also constantly seems resentful of her daughter and at times prioritizes her genderspecial doc appointments over her daughter's needs. complains about money, spends it on tranny shit, instead of setting it aside for her daughter in case she needs it. all around a cow

No. 2258950

>>2258922
I don't think it's just porn, but it certainly doesn't help anyone or anything. Puberty is rough, and boobs are often the first visible sign that a girl's body is changing. They're sexualized by peers and adult men alike, even though the girl is still a child. Many girls have been groped or otherwise assaulted, and breasts become a become a painful symbol of the discomfort and violence that come with growing up female. Cutting them off can feel like a shortcut to coping with that trauma. But it doesn't truly help. It just leaves these girls disfigured and still deeply affected by their experiences.

No. 2258955

File: 1731516996892.mp4 (2.19 MB, 480x640, Doll.mp4)

>>2258899
Disgusting, as a freelance dollmaker of cotton dolls like this, such nonsense angers me so much. I would've immediately blocked anyone who tried to commission me such crap. I took it up as a hobby because it was mostly Asian women who didn't subscribe to gendershit, is nothing sacred?

>>2258935
>>2258922
It is possible to hand embroider, but at factories the embroidery is done by embroidery machine (vidrel). However, stitching together the body parts is done by a person using sewing machine. So while some poor Chinese person did have to touch that crap, at least they didn't have to spend top much time on it.

No. 2258981

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>>2258955
Disturbing how TIFs make titchop scars into a fashion accessory. Same social contagion as self-harm scars. Same demographics too. He/him they/he members of edtwt, shtwt, and MPA are mentally ill but who are they trying to fool? I hate this ideology with a passion
>>2258899
OT but can these lazy fucks attempt to make the dolls themselves instead of buying more garbage from China? There's step-by-step instruction books and guides you can copy off of

No. 2259046

>>2258914
If you have “friends” who are meticulously combing through the list of who you follow, and then making assumptions that you are transphobic you based on who you do or don’t follow, those are fucking crazy people and you are better off quiet quitting those friendships as you extricate yourself from this cult. If anyone asks you why you unfollowed them/someone, just default to old fashioned feminist answers - “It’s none of your business”, “Because it was my choice” and“ No is a complete sentence”. I s2g, if women are such pussies that you’re afraid to even unfollow someone on social media how the fuck do you ever expect to get literal men kicked out of women’s bathrooms? I lost a lot of friends when I peaked because I reached the point where I decided to be blatant and open with my views on social media, and guess what - my life didn’t end. Plenty of people didn’t unfriend me, but I’ve made new friends since then who aren’t rabid tranny dicksuckers. These days I focus on making connections with people IRL, and I don’t even add new friends that I make on social media. Your social media “friends” shouldn’t make your life feel like a police state.

No. 2259125

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>>2257150
>Mulan drops the man disguise the second she doesn’t need it anymore yet they’re still convinced she’s TIF representation
Specially in this scene:
>Shan-Yu : The soldier from the mountains…
TIFs were "see? He doesn't yell 'a woman destroyed my army?', he's an ally". No shit, Sherlock. Mongol women even went to war if needed. It doesn't make them "men in disguise", it make them female soldiers.

No. 2259128

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>>2258981
You would think that a cheaper and less drastic option to that "fashion accessory" would be an underboob tattoo, but nah, "boobs bad, must remove to feel like man".

No. 2259185

An (in)famous autistic weeb troon to my euro country had the dick inversion surgery done this year and I just found out the surgery took place in my actual home town. I feel so grossed out, I had no idea they did that kind of surgery right here. Mentally ill people are getting their genitals butchered right in my home town. It's just so evil! I don't know what to do, should I email the hospital that did it and call them butchers or should I just stay silent and watch people get their lives ruined?

No. 2259638

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Context: This was left on a video by a woman talking about her not wanting to date or befriend men again after the elections because she, rightfully so, believes that most men either voted for Trump or are silent fans by not voting/voting third parties. Why is it that these females who would slit your throat open if you even so much as suggest that they are just naturally masculine females still feel the need to barge into spaces that has said absolutely nothing about trans people? I don't get why this idiot can't just detransition and come join us fellow women again if it's so hard to see us congregate and discuss our issues and not participate?

No. 2259642

>>2259638
>jokes about wanting femboys
>my only cishet male friend

The delulu is strong in this one.

No. 2259645

>>2259642
Oh, didn't you hear? Only real straight men and lesbian women like the poor oppwessed trans women while those who actually love biologically female bodies just need to be re-educated.

No. 2259660

>>2259046
>I s2g, if women are such pussies that you’re afraid to even unfollow someone on social media how the fuck do you ever expect to get literal men kicked out of women’s bathrooms?
Chill out, you don't have to be so rude about it. Also, I don't really expect that to happen (or not anytime soon, anyway), and me unfollowing troons on social media with like 100 followers wouldn't really make it happen either. I also don't really consider them my friends, it's more like I have several social groups online and some of them happened to have people who trooned out, they're more like acquaintances to me at best. So it's not that serious to me really, even with non troons or just people I don't talk to that much or like a ton or anything I wouldn't unfollow them unless they did something to me, I just mute them and move on. Good on you for peaking and being open about your views, and sure, ideally I'd be all for speaking up openly but I don't really feel like dealing with all that stress just because some troon acquaintances I barely interact with post dumb shit on the internet, at worst they're a nuisance (not really if I've muted them) and at best they're a source of milk. You could use some more empathy for others and their situations instead of acting like unless everyone acts exactly like you they're a retard troon enabler or something. It's not like I'm going out of my way to lick troon ass by not unfollowing someone on twitter if I barely interact with them otherwise compared to the average handmaiden, so this just comes off as silly and annoying to me. I don't consider anyone on the internet my actual friend outside of a handful of people that aren't troons, so you're really assuming a lot here.

No. 2259666

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Today on /r/thatHappened
Sure, buddy.

No. 2259674

>>2259666
Sounds like corny video game dialogue.

No. 2259686

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>>2255009
pretty sure i saw the post youre talking about and wanted to vent about a similar thing. 4b has been getting more steam on tiktok but every single time theres an outspoken misandrist woman who has a large following, she's a tirf. recently discovered that professionalsassatron has an enby brother, captioning posts with "not a man btw" and shit like that and it truly boggles the mind. HOW!!! It is so blackpilling that so many women are cowards and retards. How do you follow along with ts but then suddenly stop as soon as someone suggests that 'changing pronouns doesnt mean you arent a man anymore'

No. 2259762

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The repeated misgendering sounds kinda funny to witness but this enby scrote would be SO insufferable to deal with irl. At least you can talk shit about him with your fellow based coworkers though. I would kms if I was management though

No. 2259770

>>2259686
if there's enough oppositional pushback against the 4b movement in america then eventually the conservative movement will win and women will be back to living in the 1960s and prev years - nothing but women stuck in abusive marriages with no way out and where most women of all ages has a man in her life and if you don't, you would be put into a mental hospital to straighten you out. i don't recall which thread this was but a nonnie talked about where in history, whenever there was a strong sense of gender normative practices where men ruled society and women were the silent subservient class, that troonism was basically nowhere to be found. but when women started gaining rights and became more publicly visible in society, that's when troonism comes through to try to shove women back in. in a trump era, we are probably going to see less and less of troonism as women revert back to being second class citizen.

No. 2259780

>>2258899
what a fucking waste of materials and resources. The audacity to act annoyed that the doll "doesnt look right" when you didnt even do the effort to draw a back view of the doll which is bare minimum for doll designs.
Insufferable and inconsiderate like their shitty ideology, I feel bad for the seamstress who had to cobble this mess with what little reference they had from the shitty procreate mock up only to get their business slandered because an ungrateful tranny couldn't even put an order down right

No. 2259797

>>2258899
>gladly i didn't pay extra from this seller
If I were the seller I would place you in a blacklist for being an insufrable entitled customer.
Besides the "chest scars" looks like shit and more like belly scars.

No. 2260027

>>2259660
You could use some empathy for women who are affected by trans women in bathrooms. Maybe theres a reason for the frustration?

No. 2260033

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>>2259762
>elder home
oh boy

No. 2260164

>>2259128
Underboob tattoos only work if you have small or perky boobs, but at least in my experience the tifs that really urgently go for a double mastectomy have saggy boobs and have internalized the media hatred of sagging big time, in addition to ED "must get fat off me" thoughts

No. 2260198

>>2259185
I don’t know if calling the hospital like that will help, but you could try to spread word around town about what’s happening so more people are aware of it.
I used to work at a hospital without realising that it was the #1 gender hospital in my country. I did encounter a lot of genderspecial-looking patients on my rounds but it’s a big city, so I figured that was just the state of the world now. Then one day they started renovating large parts of the building which meant everyone had to take different routes and waiting rooms got different temporary locations, and the ‘gender care’ posters directing gender patients to that department stood out like a sore thumb. The posters directing people to the oncology dept, GI dept. etc. were super generic easily readable black text on white printer paper. The gender department posters, on the other hand were large, multicoloured (very expensive to print) and had childlike anime characters on them. And this was the adult wing. The paediatric gender department (ugh I know) was in a different building, so these uwu x3 xD loli/shota posters were aimed at adults. It was unnerving, and a lot of other employees thought it was bizarre but nobody felt comfortable expressing those thoughts because the slightest criticism of gendershit could and would get you fired for ‘creating an unsafe environment’. I’m really glad I don’t work there anymore.

No. 2260506

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This made me cackle. I can't believe they admit to being braindead idiots. Of course they don't fucking read. They're too busy destroying their attention spans by mindlessly watching tiktoks and getting all their shitty info from some pedo tranny's tweets kek. They always lose in arguments and counter by screeching about evil terfs are

No. 2260560

It's so sad anytime I see a cool butch-ish woman and she opens her mouth to talk… and there the frog croak voice is yet again. I used to think women with deep voices were so cool and endearing, now it's turned into a massive red flag that she's in a cult and destroying her body

No. 2260596

>>2260027
All I said is I don't think me unfollowing some nobody troon on twitter (instead of just muting) is going to help with that, which is just a fact. It's not a lack of empathy at all, you're just projecting yours. Being frustrated by how not everyone wants to deal with bullshit just because they happen to have one tranny in their social groups is just unreasonable. Even more so if you're someone who could genuinely get fired, harassed, or worse for it. People who come into this thread just to act like everyone has to shout from the rooftops that they hate trannies at everyone they meet irl and online 24/7 are just weird especially considering so many people come to this site in particular so they can talk anonymously without being dogpiled on other social media websites.

No. 2260610

>>2260560
I mean weren't butches always taking steroids to cheat biology, even before gender ideology became mainstream?

No. 2260611

>>2260610
what? why would they do this? what is your thought processes here?

No. 2260619

>>2260610
>cheat biology
I'm genuinely confused, what do you mean? Quite a few women just have naturally deeper voices, myself included.

No. 2260623

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amazing how everything he said is wrong and can be easily disproven by simply looking at reality (underage trannies getting hrt sent to them by adults, that one surgeon doing titchops on kids on tiktok, detransitioners talking about their underdeveloped genitalia due to puberty blockers, etc etc you all know it already)

No. 2260646

>>2260164
Part of the sagging is self induced. Binding wrecks the ligaments supporting the breasts so they sag. It’s why a lot of tifs have grandma breasts. Same mechanism, ligaments being worn down (of course, in a normal older woman, it’s the expected collagen breakdown of age and not being delusional).

No. 2260702

>>2260623
Jazz Jennings got his micropenis inverted on national television when he was 17. I don’t know his timeline by heart but it wouldn’t surprise me if he started HRT before age 16, either.

Anyway
>literally nobody is transing kids!
>okay well let’s ban it just to be sure
>NO HOW DARE YOU

No. 2260718

I hope all those conservative suburban moms are happy. Thanks for the 7-2 Supreme Court split. It’s a failure of feminism that we could fix this ourselves. Trannies won’t disappear nor will the conservative social norms that gave birth to trannydom won’t disappear. Thanks a lot. And now Ovarit bans you for even talking BACK to these assholes. It’s a fucking Karen site now.

No. 2260722

>>2260623
Why do people say this when TIFs often openly have a mastectomy as teenagers? And start T? And TIMs can easily get estrogen online?
>HRT is only available to teens 16-17
Not true. Therapy is usually just virtual appointments for a letter. Plus teens are minors? Plus their own ideology wants to remove all guardrails to have people "medically transition" as easily as possible?

If something isn't happening, then why freak out over banning it?

No. 2260724

>>2260702
The blockers he had been put on since 13/14 actually resulted in underdeveloped penile tissue to the point where his surgery required revisions (not enough material made it difficult for the surgeon) and Jazz has never had an orgasm fyi. They act like the blockers don't count as medical transitioning when they are prescribed to a child that does not need them, it's literally interfering with their growth to prepare for a sex change

No. 2260727

>>2259638
KEK What is it about commies and femboys? I bet she met him through playing videogames too. The guy I was friends with said that was how he found out he was bisexual because he got catfished by a femboy and found he actually kind of liked it. Love is love.

No. 2260794

>>2260722
>Why do people say this when TIFs often openly have a mastectomy as teenagers?
I find that most who say this are men who legit do not spend a single second thinking about or reading about tifs, they are MRA who only think of other men and their interests

No. 2260807

>>2252752
>>2252819
Wikipedia sucks, nobody should use it. This video explains it very well.

No. 2260814

fiona apple was right. there is no hope for women.

No. 2260823

>>2260814
It's good when people like that go mask off and show how hostile they are to basic feminism. This is the stuff that peaks women.

No. 2260826

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94yo co-founder of La Leche League steps down because of a new focus on including men in the mission of the group. I searched but didn't see this posted anywhere. The pic is not the best resolution but I couldn't locate a better one.

No. 2260828

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I was reading picrel on Internet Archive. It’s a collection of works about how women have been harmed by TiMs and feel pressured into remaining silent due to fear of being labeled transphobic. Except today when I checked I get a page informing me it was removed, either because the uploader took it down or it violated Terms of Service. I don’t believe there is a way to confirm the reason for its removal, but if it was due to being transphobic I am going to be so mad.

No. 2260833

>>2260823
its honestly insane because like. just by looking at her, she seems just like the type that the conservative proud boys of the trump movement would love to clown on… yet she's their perfect dream girl: always standing in the way of actual female liberation, parroting stupid shit about inclusivity (aka making sure moids don't get left behind or hurt their fee fees), and policing women's thoughts. unlike so many groups of women who are now being terrorized by these men, she can quite literally get her tattoos removed, take off her nose ring, put on a dress, and join the GOP if she cares so much about men more than women.

No. 2260852

>>2260814
holy fuck this accent/voice affect makes me chimp out so bad. can burgers itt confirm if this is a cali thing? maybe its just because i associate it with libslop and shilling but i cannot fathom taking anything she says as sage wisdom

No. 2260884

>>2260828
highly unlikely that the original poster removed it. this is how they obscure reality, by labeling women's experiences and womens history as transphobic

No. 2260889

>>2260852
It’s called uptalk and is most present in the speech of young women living in urban areas, not west coast specific.

No. 2260913

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>>2252408
TRANSLATION: WHO THE FCK ALLOWED YOU TO SPEAK,TERF? YOU PLACE IS IN THE FCKIN JAIL AND WE WILL VIOLATE YOU!

No. 2260945

>>2260814
She is not as smart as she or the comments think she is. TikTok has melted these people's brains

No. 2260973

>>2260814
i'm not taking advice from someone who says uhhhhh and ummmm every other sentence
>i'm giving you some dogwhistles you can look out for so you don't engage with that content
god forbid you engage with something that might threaten your beliefs. god forbid you encounter anything contrary to your ideas and dare to analyze it using critical thinking and decide for yourself whether you agree or not. don't ummm interact with these evil radfem terves and ummm stay uh safe guyss yeahh ummm!! xoxo

No. 2260975

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>>2260814
don't worry nona, she is a true feminist hero who has done so much to help other women, such as… waiting for 5 minutes when her neighbor is yelling at his wife or something? we are saved

No. 2260983

>>2260973
She claims to hate the gender binary in another video, but her whole worldview and frame of thinking is broken into a "good/bad" binary. Trannies = good, TERFs = bad, etc.
>>2260975
Such a feminist savior. Whatever would we do without her activism?

No. 2261007

>>2260975
holy fuck that pretentious duck face she's pulling here is peak tradthot 'thou must be married before 25 lest you want to be foreveralone bitch!' energy

No. 2261014

>>2261007
samefag but that sentence she typed in that video is giving the same energy as religious women who tells the woman getting abused by her bf that she might've done something to make him act that way and that its all her fault kek

No. 2261026

>>2260623
>Children are not medically transitioning
>Puberty blockers are safe
Okay so either the children are not medically transitioning OR they are being put on puberty blockers, not both. And no, stunting a child's development by blocking puberty is not "safe", it's not healthy, it's objectively bad for them. I wish people like this would shut the fuck up forever

No. 2261078

>>2260814
aside from the troon ship and her annoying vocal fry, I don't think she's necessarily wrong, as the divine femininity bullshit is how many women got sucked into crunhy and then far-right worldviews, yeah most separatists are usually not serious and don't do much and too many radfems are just not willing to accept that tens of millions of women voted for trump of their own accord

No. 2261135

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>>2260884
I don't want you to be right but I believe you are. The only other explanation is if the publisher requested for it to be taken down. I cobbled together the screenshots I took of one story from the anthology, picrel. I hope a new pdf becomes available again.

No. 2261138

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>>2260913
>communist
Always gets me. Enjoy being in the Gulag.

No. 2261142

>>2261026
>Puberty blockers are safe
If there were "safe", they wouldn't be used against Cancer like it's supposed to be.

No. 2261147

>>2260884
At this point, how is this any different than labeling women with logic and reason as hysteric? Trannies are men and men want us to go back when they could put their wives in an asylum and give them a lobotomy.

No. 2261167

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>>2259762
>God, I was shaking

No. 2261184

>>2260623
I literally saw a documentary on ABC that featured an 11 year old being given puberty blockers and testosterone, but ok.
>>2260814
She is actually fucking stupid, holy shit. What do you mean talking too much about female genital mutilation is a bad thing? Absolutely retarded as fuck, how can she think the feelings of a disgusting man matter more than a little girl has her genitals altered because she lives in a society that is afraid of little girls potentially being whores? She talks about how women who were excited about Harris were isolating women who live in the global south, but how is shunning women who talk about genital mutilation not doing just that, but in the most egregious manner possible? Almost every woman I've seen talk about female genital mutilation has been a black woman and any white woman I've seen bringing it up is usually just sharing articles about the experiences of said black women and letting them do the talking. The experiences that women of colour face at the hands of misogyny are always based on "bio essentialism", you can't bring them into the conversation with addressing it and accepting the reality of human biology. When i see people talking about white feminism, this is the type of dumb bitch that pops in my mind. She literally wants women to stop liking and discussing anything that's mean to troons or challenges anyone in any kind of way. She actually makes me furious and want to a-log, holy shit i cannot take this level of retardation. I bet she thinks we can't talk about what's going on in Afghanistan because it's disrespectful to non-binary people. She unironically linked being excited about having a biracial woman president to perpetuating fascism, i CANNOT with these bitches. They are reaching so fucking hard because they are fucking retarded and needs to bend logic to seem more enlightened than they actually are whilst not hurting moids fee fees, when all they are doing is spreading stupidity.

No. 2261218

>>2260814
This has fully convinced me that gender ideology is a psyop to dismantle any real feminist action. It’s been wild seeing so many women speak so positively about 4B and openly shit on men without a million qualifiers, even in normie spaces. I thought that the one silver lining of the US election is that many women have woken up to how much men hate them. And of course, like clockwork, I’m starting to see the criticism rolling in from libfems about how the 4B movement is actually super problematic and Korean feminists are really terfy and extreme. So fucking annoying. We get one step closer to class consciousness and trannies have to make it all about themselves. On the bright side, I’ve also seen a lot more pro trans sentiments get downvoted in feminist spaces on Reddit. A wave of upvotes will bring them back up after a while, but they start off in the negative and often stay low. One tim was even complaining about how he noticed it and it bothered him lol.
Also this girl has the same photobooth twirl cashew face as Dasha. Love that for her. Must be some kind of weird physical manifestation of pickmeism

No. 2261224

>>2261184
>The experiences that women of colour face at the hands of misogyny are always based on "bio essentialism
On this it also really pisses me off how bastardised the term bio-essentialist has become and gendies never fucking use it correctly. It's like gaslighting where they've just taken it and run it to the ground.



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