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We expected an outpouring of milk for the 2nd anniversary of Mags stalking Venoos unto the ends of the earth, and she didn’t disappoint. From the first anniversary of her B&E on Venus and Manaki’s place (12/7/16) all through the second anniversary of Venus’s escape from her clutches (1/27/16), Mags kept up a steady stream of loud personas:
- angry bitter bitch (“Venus is a lying bully who isn’t even sick!”)
- to concerned mama (“pray for my baby Venoos, she is sick, I just want to know what is happening”)
- to medical expert (“I can tell her kidneys are failing, I went to radiology school 1 year”)
- to conspiracy theorist (“I heard Manaki poisons her with anti freeze JUST SPECULATING but he did it” “Manaki is killing her to inherit THE CHANNEL”)
- back to spurned lover (“these are many funny memes about how my ungrateful dottir Venoos left me for some baka factory worker!” “we’re both going to die from being separated”)
- We even got “proofs” of Margo’s “strungled toe”… a year after this heinous act was committed?
Margo made some good headway and got some new stans for a few weeks while she kept up her “just a poor worried mama” act, by posting childhood photos of Venus. She also claimed that people who support Venus is the comment section are ACTUALLY just trolls who laugh and poor Venoos! >>485101
, and that it was the evil Manaki who brainwashed her >> 485106
Then the 2nd anniversary of Venus’ escape came, and Margo’s “loving mama” masque shattered with a quickness >>486610
She posted a bunch of “memes” she apparently spends most her nights drunkenly making, where she’s the scorned ex girlfriend of her daughter. They’re just as creepily incestuous as it sounds >>486683
It was proved conclusively by an anon that Margo’s crying photo “proof” of being “strangled with a jacket” by Venus >>487002
couldn’t have been taken on 12/7/16, as a photo she posted of herself a week before the break in shows that she’d cut her hair short, at ear level >>487061
It’s the eve of her 43rd birthday (March 3), and since Venus left the hospital – neither dead or divorced, contrary to both of Margo’s smug predictions - and began making YT videos again, Margo has been thirst posting, and trying to copy anything Venus does in a desperate attempt to show the world who the REAL Venoos is. Expect a continued breakdown forthwith.https://www.instagram.com/margaretpalermo/https://www.youtube.com/MargaretPalermohttps://twitter.com/margaretpalermo
Last thread: >>479422
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Tweets are boring and dumb, just like Margo herself. She has 1700+ followers are pretty much zero engagement on everything she write.
Waiting for milk from the kappa.
We're not entirely sure, but Margo did mention again recently that she speaks to her mother every day, so we can assume "Operation: make Margitka feel sorry for me" is still in full effect. With that probably comes cash donations from time to time, but since Margo's out working at hotels late nights, she's likely having to rely more on her own labor than on her mother to pay the rent.
I doubt Margitka and Ferenc would allow Mags to become actually homeless, tho, so Margitka most likely pitches in when Mags comes up a day late and a won short.
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Beautiful jung margaret
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Really, Margo? (vomiting 5ever)
She's really into these fake backgrounds right now - guess she realized we can only stare at that carpeted wall with a brick pattern so many time.
Makes me wonder if she's having trouble finding jobs, she's usually out at enough hotels for different backgrounds for photos. So she's just stuck in her tiny room full of boxes, shooping her face into another dimension.
lol no anon
margo was blocked, that's why she sends her stans to leave nasty coments on her behalf
My bad then.
I seem to remember someone saying Margo keeps stalking Penus' comment sections in the previous thread. Guess I misinterpreted the situation there.
I wonder if Venus abused laxatives and thats what damaged her system… having to take antibiotics and the surgery…
Heres a video of a case https://youtu.be/9zSdk97c1sQ
thats a pretty big stretch anon, sounds like you're buying into margos "wenoos has un eating disooder" BS
Venus is probably just being secretive because 1) health problems are private in general and 2) she doesn't want her nutty, obsessed mother putting her shit on blast even though it will probably sadly happen no matter how much/little is shared
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She's still so fucking streamed that her little dolly puppet got away.
Interesting claim here from Mags - that they were filmed on their own. But Maggot was glommed right to Venus's side during the whole interview, just like she always demanded to be. So did the interviewer pull Venus aside and give her some truth?
Mags is right to point to this video as the beginning of the end for her; Venus herself posted a photo in instagram stories from this interview, saying she was brainwashed. This interviewer was brilliant to see Mags for exactly what she was (controlling abusive narc mom monster); and let Venus see her mom clearly for a minute; AND let Margo hang herself on film given enough rope.
Margo is just sitting in her tiny hoarded up room, stewing about the past, and where it all went wrong for her. The birthday salt cometh.
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>>490726>>why post a video if she’s that butthurt about looking bad in it?
I think she's butthurt that someone else hosting this video has gotten 800k+ views off it (photo is from the same video on another channel); same reason she's re-posting her old videos with Venus. She wants those views to herself, and she wants to be able to prune the resultant comment section to her liking.
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And this is but a tiny sample of the many comments from the other person's channel - pretty much everyone is horrified by Margo.
Mags wants to suck up some views, and she wants to be able to curate the comments so people take her side; "oh that reporter was so mean, what a cuck! #MAGA #kekistan"
You can log out and still see everything someone posts, dude. Or make a sock account so you can also see their Instagram stories.
Margo is known to do both. Catch up.
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The reply blocking is already in effect; YT says there's 20 comments, but I see maybe 8.
And when you try to see which comments are there, there's nothing below. Mags is blocking anything not within her narrative, which was the point of reuploading this on her channel
I know this video's been discussed a few times before but the parts that always get me:
3:12 Venus understands the question better but Margo scoffs and acts like she's wrong.
6:42 How did Margo go from plastic surgery to the host changing career? Her bizarre rambling in Marglish never gets old.
7:35 Margo touches Venus' shoulder and she looks absolutely terrified
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Who takes these photos? Does she have a friend, a random passerby, or a tripod-san? Maybe she props her phone up on a random surface? Not very smart in the rain either way.
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Am I overreacting by thinking we really need to watch this guy closely or may end up doing something scary? He is only in Australia and it wouldn’t take him long to fly to Japan or South Korea.
And of course, Margaret liked his comment.
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Now 31 comments but only 19 are visible. Including this one that hasn’t been deleted (yet)
Things that will piss margaret off about this video:
- Manaki looks cute
- Venus looks cute
- they both seem happy asf together while
- marge has no one
- it’s getting many times more views than any of her recent videos despite no promotion
- Venus got a trip to Disney for her bday while marge will likely get nada for hers
- V and M have money to spend on silly stuff while marge is broke sitting alone in a rented cubicle
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ikr?? Those cankles are killing me. As are the orthopedic granny shoes and what looks like support hose.
Dear marge, your lined saggy face is not cute and your sausage legs are gross. Please stop.
Didnt they meet at Disneyland(not this one) during a meet up? They shoukd do a trip there for their anniversary. >>490883
Only one thing will piss her off: Manaki made the video. Its gonba be more proof hes using Venus in her mind. Hes slowing trying to take over Venus's youtube life.
In all honesty, stop nit picking so hard.
1: It's not funny
2: It got old two years ago
Despite being deranged hobo, she has better looks than majority of women her age. She could settle up with a man, but her narcisstic disorders cripples her ability to interact with people and maintain relationship.
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>>490899>better looks than majority of women her age.
You’re kidding, right? She’s a fucking gargoyle. And pointing out that fact is not “nitpicking.”
I think >>490899
anon needs to either get their eyes checked or stop believing marge’s massively filtered photos are real. Or maybe both.
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>>490899>she has better looks than majority of women her age>mfw
oh sweet naive anon.
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nitpicking? don’t think so.
this is what I’m talking about. She’s nasty.
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Marge's mad at asslabyrinth.
Just keep being an emasculated good dog, dude. We know much you wanted to be rejected like shit.
I'll give it at try:
Mik Knt:"ahh, you get much hate for this video. I wanted to help you, explain to you, what happened, but you didn't want it."
Marg: "With helping you mean when I don't do what you say, even if we're not even close, you come with passive agressive stuff(translators note: don't ask, it's marglish). go unchek yourself." (don't know how to translate this but you could read this as "go fuck yourself")
weeabochan: "somehow your german is so weird"
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I guess she uploaded this last night but she deleted it. It was still on my Instagram tho.
I was just curious. Might be amusing to know that you were proven right. Also this >>490946>>490937>>490932
Dunno but it's funny how no one has asked about her ~judaism~.
Not even Satan wanted to be worshiped by this weirdo.
Damn, her German is so awful. The way she writes makes her look like some edgy, undereducated teen lmao
>Geh mal check dich aus
uh.. watch out we have a badass over here that tries to keep up with today's Jugend!1
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Hot chocolate and chocolate pancakes? Wow, Margo must have been working overtime to afford those luxuries.
Also, looks like she's going to continue the psychology training route?
You think turning jewish, immediately copying Manaki's "got out of hospital" video at an open air market with ax exotic trip to the dollar store, and re-posting old videos of herself being interviewed as Venoos' "celebrity manager" aren't ample proof of her unraveling?
I mean, I know we're used to epic levels of milk from Margo, but please appreciate how insane even her quieter fuming is.
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So, those wondering where Mags was directing her crazy rage right now: look no further than the comment section of that Entrevue interview with Venus. Mags is in rare form: firstly, she's not bitter, who says she's bitter?
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This interview was "an altered reality", because narcs can't stand it when their gaslighting gets blown up by someone in real time
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Mags hates the trannies and the fats
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Mags wasn't getting exposed as the narc she is, she was being gaslit by a sociopath who "imitated grabbing titties!" but of COURSE they edited all that out just to make her look bad
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"Imagine having someone see right through your narc act, it was terrifying!" Then some marglish about a Canadian minster??
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Marge accuses the interviewer of "doing genocide on Canadians"
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Sorry, Trudeau is doing the Canadian genocide, apparently, This is her "proofs"
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Margo getting weird and defending Venus, saying she's not fat. But then saying that she, Margo, kept trying to "train" Venus to make her not fat but V was too lazy, unlike Margo, who is strong and definitely NOT fat.
Her inability to separate Venus's person from herself is showing here, as she struggles with what she perceives as an insult to Venus's weight (which wasn't what the person said at all), then talk down on V because she's competition, then switching to talking about herself because she and Venus are one, in the her own mind.
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Margo also claims that Venus told the interviewer she wanted to slap him (uh, transference much, Mags? lol, YOU looked like you wanted to deck him, V looked like she'd rather be anywhere else and terrified of you). But of COURSE this was cut out, along with all of the "manipulations" Margo claims went on.
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Venus' height, and admission that she actually has no idea how her kid is (which means you also cannot divine that she's being poisoned and suffering from kidney failure, Mags.)
margaret spends way too much time in /pol/>>491035
"I don't know!-it's not like I stalk her instagram 24/7 or something!!!"
'I am heavier because of muscle.'
And yet she's so "soft and smol" when big bad Venoos hulk smashed through a glass security door to attack Margo one of only a million times? And 90 lbs Venoos strungled her with a jacket when poor Margaret just went a-visiting innocently to her daughter's home after jimmying the door open?
Make up your mind, Mags. Are you thicc and strong (read: fat), or smol and weak and so abused?
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I really don't get why she wants to keep that domain name. Update date: 2018-02-18
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Uh, did mags just give out her actual address and phone number? Seoul anons, what dis?
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She's like 48. I know you might think that she's 74 and thus assume she is looking good for her age, but no. She looks horrible for 48. My grandma is 82 and looks better than Margot. That's not a humble brag about my grandma, Margo just really looks that bad for her age.
Margot needs to stop investing her hobo bucks
on home perms and go for a moisturizer.>>491088
Google says Seocho is an expensive neighborhood? How much do you bet it on being an address of one of her John's she tricked?
Worse: She just turned 43!
43 is not old, yet she looks very rough. I say this as someone who has many friends that are in their 40’s. Just in the past 3-4 years, she has aged significantly and sagging is particularly bad. Sometimes you can’t fight bad genetics but this woman is living a self-imposed stressful, empty lifestyle and heavily drinks. Add mental illness to that mix and she does not look like a early 40’s healthy person. She is only better than average when you compare to how many middle age people have hard, stressful lifestyles. That is not a good pool.
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More Margo rage incoming soon…
Interesting reactions to the bday gifts:
- do I deserve this? (I’m not worthy) and
- how will I pay them back?
Classic raised by a narcissist reactions.
we don't even know if that's her actual address>>491158
yes. Margo talking through her teeth was scary
Is there any evidence that Maggot has been watching Manaki's videos? I would pay to be a fly on her wall when V says "Thank you Mommy and Daddy"
I think it is sweet Manaki is letting her have her space. It's clear Venus might never had her own room and space. Didn't Margo make her sleep next to her or some shit?
The more videos I see of Manaki, the more I like him. >>491181
Spot on prediction.
Probably. But they've explained before that he works nights, so he has his own space to sleep during the day, and she has her own place to film.
As much as Margo is furious she didn't get to auction off Venus's virginity and so insists that Venus has never slept with Mana, it's pretty clear from the way the Okadas make sexual jokes and interact that they have chemistry and act on it. But short of Venus releasing a pr0n movie with full penetration shots, Mags will go on insisting that Venus doesn't have sex, because Margo can't stand not controlling it.
If Margo had gotten her way and lived with them, she'd have shared Venus's bed and cock blocked Mana at every turn like a duenna. And if they did have sex, shed spy on them, and she'd always be trying to hit on Manaki herself ("oops this little towel I was wearing fell down! Tee her, like what you see, my son? Can Venoos put her legs behind her head? I can, watch")
Thank god Venus put her foot down after the airport incident, because they'd have never gotten Mags to leave once she'd gotten a foot on the door.
and remember that time margo said she heard from their landlord that ~Venus was hostessing~ and earning a fuckton of money off it to justify the 3k usd monthly extortion? kek>>491192>shed spy on them
even worse, margo would record them. This bitch is so creepy and perverted.
Didn't she said once that even Manaki's father was hitting on her?
Yes that is correct. But to Margo, every man is hitting on her. Just a simple "Nice to meet you, you look nice today" means you want to fuck her.
She even claimed that Manaki was hitting on her.
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my bad, you're right anon.
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Oooh and here she says clearly that she filed for refunds for their Korean school tuition. She was saying last month that Venus left her with credit card debt from this.
Lol, but you got a refund for it and got pissed she didn't thank you for refunding your own credit card?
Lol how crazy is this bitch; "your husband makes $2000 a month, so give me $3000 a month forever, kthx". Mags said this while the channel was down and Venus had zero income from it; she was trying to blackmail Venus into promising her a monthly income if she left off filling claims. Thank goodness YT pulled its head out of its ass and found Margo's claims to be worthless.
Math motherfucker, how does it work?
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She finally shut her online ‘shop’ down, after selling exactly zero items.
I have lived in Japan for many years and have a Japanese family. What about you? It is NOT normal think you must PAY BACK someone. Exchanging a gift of equal value is customary to show gratitude or you bring a gift when you visit someone’s home. When on vacation, you pick up several souvenirs too. No different than the West. Feeling like you do not deserve to be treated nicely is NOT normal. You also don’t understand how it works within family situations, especially with in-laws. It is not the same dynamic as friends or coworkers. >>491180
It’s really not uncommon to have a separate rooms in Japan, especially when you work odd hours. Some couples also do that if one of them snores badly or has bad sleep patterns. Some will also share a room, but have separate beds adjusted to their liking. If it is a love marriage, they still find time(and places) for romance. It’s just getting proper sleep is different issue then a symbolic display of intimacy. Margaret said their home is a 3 bedroom. With that amount a space for just the two of them, why not have fun with their own personal areas? It’s obvious from Manaki’s bold humor and body language that he is not being deprived. Lol. It’s just a cultural difference, not an indicator of intimacy. >>491222
I still can’t get over how she expects anyone to believe that a Japanese landlord was so eager to spill detailed personal information(illegal!) about his tenants to a strange foreign woman who does not speak Japanese. It’s impossible! Nobody does that.>>491226
$5,750 over two years? TWO YEARS? Is that supposed to a lot when she, the adult, decided to move and store countless boxes with no longterm plan or backup? If she got a job, that would not be a lot of money. She is always acting like what she is paying for average living and moving costs is so unusual but average families pay a lot more, with less complaining.
what? anon that's where the central line she had was inserted
also no one cares if wenoos is still a virgin or not, the only one obsessed with that is margaret
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I think that's more likely from her TPN.
Who gives a fuck if she's a virgin except Marge?
Even if she wasn't before Manaki it doesn't matter, she's married now she shouldn't be one….
Definitely doesn't look like a residential address. I'm assuming it's some sort of government building or other public facility. There's an elementary school right next to it.>>491101
It's right next to Gangnam, which is pretty ritzy. It's probably expensive to live there, but it doesn't have the same glamor as Gangnam or some of the other districts
Its probably a starbucks with free wifi she was sleeping on the floor at, or she rented a small airbnb bedroom.
I'm still curious how this ham is still affording this even. 2 years without work, and the better half of the first year she spent flying around the globe. Honestly, Venus must of let her a pretty massive amount of money to be still living off of today.
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I don’t get where all this ‘Manaki is ugly’ crap is coming from, unless you think Asians in general are ugly? To me he’s an average to semi cute looking Asian guy. Not even close to ‘ugly.’
Although he's not my type whatsoever I have to agree. I think he's more on the baby cute side than hot by I don't think he's ugly. My friend who has lived in Japan mentioned that the average person isn't all that attractive. I feel like people who idolize Japan or have yellow fever have some kind of fucked up standards and believes all Asians have to look like kpop stars to be considered hot when the majority of people don't look anything like them.
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>>491337>I don’t get where all this ‘Manaki is ugly’ crap is coming from
This one comment specifically is coming from the image it is quoting.
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He has high cheekbones like most Asians and his lips look pretty normal to me. They look like an average cute interracial couple.
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>>491381>As long as he makes Venus that's all that's necessary to make Margo go nuts
Right? margo just wants everybody around her to be miserable. Pic very related>>491385
for some weird reason whenever the milk is scarce aome anons start nitpicking manaki's looks
And to think Weenoos is hosting a giveaway right now. Maggot must be livid.
Btw, wasn't her birthday yesterday?
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nothing interesting there either, this is the only tweet she made.
Magpie is her kekotalk screen name, just fyi. Probably some drunk musing while customers email her.
Wonder if she'll apply for the giveaway.
>>491607>>491192>inb4 margaret tries to claim it as her intellectual property being used without her consent>>491608
Margo reminds me of the Grandma from Gabriel García Marquez's novel Eréndira.
>tl;dr: asshole old hag loses her house in a fire accidentally caused by her 13 yr old granddaughter. In order to get repaid for the damage, asshole granny forces her into sex work, dragging her from town to town to pimp her, until the girl finally runs away.
obviously Weenoos isn't a literal hooker unlike the girl in the book, but the similarities between both Maggot and the grandma are uncanny. Entitled narcissist leechers.
I wondered for a while if she is just paying a 24/7 internet cafe cubicle. saw a documentary about those and even low-income koreans sleep in those, as they are the cheapest (?) option with no longterm commitment.
also because of that reappearing wall: >>490903
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I truly hope Venus is unaffected by her mother. I survived a narc parent and it sucks when you grow up and you still feel bad for them, regardless of how badly they treated you for so long. Hopefully she has so much support she never has those moments but I bet that she probably feels a lot of pity for her in the moments that she’s alone. >>491800
If Margo ever gets sent back to where she belongs, where would that be?
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Oh please. That pic was edited to fuck and back, run through one of many slimming apps that are available nowadays (see pic attached)
Her legs do not look like that. They’re short, chunky and thick. You are just as gullible as the halfwitted old men who drool over her (also heavily edited) other instagram pics.
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You really think she’s lost that much weight since this pic was taken? How gullible are you? This is what her legs really look like- twin tree trunks.
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why oh why do I have the feeling this is fake af and not at all related to fashionnova?
"on the roof with fashionnova"
implies something different, stan
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Lo and behold, The Kappa's average fan. Do you think it's because she reminds him of a Lapras?
MARGO CHAN IS GORGEOUS
MARGO CHAN IS MODEL
Idk where the brand is based but yeah the last thing they would do is go scouting middle aged prostitutes in Korea>>491879
Everything look so low quality lmao>>491897
Kinda want to feel bad for this dude but I can't
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Margo’s most devoted stan is now sucking up to Venus in her instagram comments. Poor marge can’t keep a man, not even online.
Do you think she’ll be mad? I know she’ll see it, she stalks Venus’s instagram religiously.
Says she used to say she was allergic to potatoes because of her blood type. Says her mother called Mexicans short and fat because they eat corn. Said her mom looked at her at 11 after having eaten and asked her if she was pregnant. Says she was constantly stressed about if she was growing to be the correct height to be a model.
Claims she doesn't have an eating disorder because she was tested and then proceeds to describe her eating disorder and the suicidal ideation she has had in the past. Japanese psychologists are maybe not the best.
This is so hard to watch, can she just act normally and not semi-retarded? Its a pretty serious topic.
'Btw I don't have an eating disorder'>scared of getting fat, thinks she is fat and hates herself>malnourished>obsessed with her weight>said she hates not knowing her true weight because she can't 'control' it>feels shame eating junk food
jeez give the girl a rest she's finally admitting something that clearly is a massive deal to her that she's been suffering with for the last decade.
I also don't understand why she said the hospital said she didn't have an eating disorder, maybe she wasn't truthful to the person assessing her, or maybe Japan have different ways of diagnosing an ED, or maybe she's lying. I have heard that Japan view anorexia very differently than more Western cultures, so who knows?
Anyhoo, cant wait for the Margo sperg that will inevitably happen anytime in the next couple of hours.
This is not racism you dumb millennial.>someone says something non-white people do
Margo is just stupid, simple as that.
Claiming everyone from a particular race is racism, maybe not the worst example but it's still racist to say that.>>491921
She's trying to keep herself together, adding some humor is her way of dealing with it, I don't see any problem with it, especially since she's being so honest.
I don't think the Japanese are the best with mental health and dealing with that, since they are more of a different ideal look, which is a shame, Venus grew up with western outlooks regarding your appearance. And while yes, Margo has the majority of the blame on how this poor girl sees herself, having the internet being so judgmental of her looks probably didn't help. PULL was vicious with her, especially around the whole Bodyline fiasco, most of the forum was about how fat Venus was.
holy fucking shit
we all knew margaret is evil but never to this extent
Of course she's racist against Mexicans. She loved Trump. >>491918
Any chance the surgery Venus needed in S Korea was pretty much the same surgery that Margo accused Venus of having gotten done for weight loss? Maybe Margo is more viciously ignorant in regards to Venus's health than a liar.
Some people deal with hard situations by putting on an act, making jokes etc. Venus pretty much says in that exact video that she puts on her ottd kawaii act when she meets new people, which demonstrates that she does act a certain way when she's nervous, I can't speak for her but sometimes my anxiety (soz4blog) makes me feel slightly hyper/on edge or that I have lot of nervous energy so I can imagine if its similar for her then maybe her being 'over the top' or whatever is her way of being able to talk about something as serious as this.
Surely by now anons here should be used to her voice and mannerisms, whether she puts it on or not. Just seems to be excessively nit-picky considering it's not just a normal video its actually pretty horrible knowing what she's been through and how her mom basically started Venus' body image issues from a young age. Those things really stick with you, i'm not surprised at all that Venus has food issues. In fact considering Venus's life has been like a shit weeaboo version of Tangled except a lot more child exploitation, I would be more surprised if Venus was completely okay.
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This video got surprisingly somber towards the end.
Every new video Venus releases talking about her mother just exposes how much of a monster she was to her when she was growing up. It's surprising Venus grew up to be as sweet as she is. At least she realizes how awful her mother was, a lot of people that go through her situation don't until it's too late.
I am worried about her though. She's gotten so skinny.
There are things about Venus that I’m not a huge fan of. However, she has narc fleas. It’s amazing to me that’s shes as well adjusted as she is. I’d expect her to be much, much worse.
She’s very young and if she works on it, she can get rid of them and she ~will live a happy life.
Agreed with >>491955
. It is very noticeable how she's trying hard to not cry by the end of the video.
As much as I'm not fan of Weenoos' content, I can't imagine how frustrating had to be having to stuff your face in front of a camera 3 times a week to earn money for the person who is the root of your eating disorder.
She’s emotionally stunted from having a horrendous engulfing narcissist for a parent and primary female role model.
She’s actually doing a good job of speaking honestly about her problems. I do think she needs to get a real counselor and do the extremely difficult work in front of her, but of course she’s avoiding it.
She is obviously deeply uncomfortable talking about her mental and physical health, exposing herself again to her grim excuse for a mother.
Kind of amazed that some people here are just "I'm not adequately entertained by this young abuse survivors way of coping with public disclosure of suicidal thoughts".
How and where is she avoiding it? She’s being very honest about it. She’s on the verge of tears the whole time. First she overcompensates with her persona, and then as she gets more comfortable, she's basically talking as one would with a therapist. I feel terrible for her, but she has a strong grasp on her problems. She’s trying.
Christ, this is harsh.
>>491970>Kind of amazed that some people here are just "I'm not adequately entertained by this young abuse survivors way of coping with public disclosure of suicidal thoughts".
>Waaaah why Venus is hiding us the reason of her being in the hospital? it's not like you cannot record a video!!!1! she might be as well faking it liar liar liar being bedridden isn't an excuse to not entertain me waaaaah>Omg why isn't this bitch wringing hands and crying a river while talking about her suicidal thoughts and chronic disease????? That's not how you react about it!!!!
I think some farmers might be too used to the overdramatic cows
Gosh, the right hand pic where she looks super haggard is one of the few times if seen her resemble her mum.
Poor thing, I hope she feels better soon.
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Omg that pig snout!
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Here's Mags pretending to have a social life that doesn't involve her sponging off free booze at open events (to those who haven't ever gone: art openings are open events with free wine)
And she really wants people to start clicking on those old videos again
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She thinks she's an artist?
So anyone can do art, too.
Next thread image? Also, how old is this? Man she had those hanging jowls AGES ago
Such sexy jungend model material, lol
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That's the original one. Idk how old it is. Someone sent me some images and i edited them.
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Anon you forgot the most important part of the post; her delicious birthday feast!
Is that not the shower door in her goshiwan in the background?
Such a classy birthday. Eating a bucket of fried chicken and pancakes in a cramped cell of an accomodation
Man oh man do you think she saved up for weeks for this? Casillero Del Diablo is what I buy when I'm broke. And that looks like one of those awful cakes you get in A Twosome Place or one of the other chains.
I wonder if it'll be another eating video?
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I literally thought the same fucking thing lmfao at least try to hide the fact that your dinner table is right next to your dining table (desk)
that’s the saddest excuse for a birthday meal ever. looks like a takeout KFC bucket o’chicken and what is that dried out looking thing next to it, a struggle cake? Eating that all alone in her crappy cubicle, hunched over her laptop. That’s what you call Karma and it’s a bitch. She got exactly the birthday she deserved.
what do you want to bet she chugged that entire bottle of cheap wine and passed out afterwards?
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Here’s the cheap wine she ‘celebrated’ with. $7.99 per bottle. Lol I didn’t know wine this cheap even existed.
concha y toro wines are so fucking cheap lmao. >>492204
even the cheapest cake slice and coffee at starbucks wouldn't look this pitiful. And yeah sure she did.>>492213>venus senpai notice meeeeeee
of fucking course, continue milking Venus to make up for your lack of interesting content.
To me it sounds like a response… or rather a provocation.
Imo venus doesn't like björk bc of her mother. That smile she had really looked like that of a person bullying verbally someone.
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eurgh that's vid where she shaves her legs in the shower over clothes that she's washing…
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Lets remove some filters
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Lo and behold, Margo stans in charge of explaining BD
>body dysmorphia is not genetic nor is it something that can be given
nice mental gymnastics
>She Is His First Victim.
But wasn't his first victim margaret?
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Can we talk about this creepy old guy Bolinam, margo’s devoted stan? He’s taken to commenting on all Venus’s posts now trying to suck up to her and and talks like they have some kind of psychic connection or something. He also Capitalizes Every Word and doesn’t know the difference between your and you’re. Nasty old man.
He wants to sound german but fails. In German we don't capitalize each word, just Dingwörter (substantives).
Marge likes circus creatures i guess.
He actually wrote that he DOUBTS Venus was his first victim.
God, this is hilarious. Nothing can explain a 27 year old looking a few years younger than his peers besides the supernatural!
That Joseph Bolinam is so fucking creepy. Dude has a little Asian wife at home and yet he was previously leaving very flirtatious, inappropriate comments on Margaret’s page. Why did he suddenly move on to Venus?
my bad anon, didn't noticed the "I doubt". Anyways, dude should stop reading twilight.
He's either desperate for attention or trying to stir shit. Feel bad for his wife.
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Not to mention he looks like he’s in his 70s at least. Very creepy old guy now sniffing around Venus and getting all protective of his “Little Munchkin.”
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He looks same age as marge. A perfect match.
Yeah they were deleted a while ago. It was during the whole beckie cruel/yukapee days when dancing to animu music in public places was popular on the weeby side of youtube.
Lots of weird creepy 'cooking' vids of her in mini skirts and stockings reaching for high shelves, her licking cream off of spoons, etc. Does anybody else remember this? it had to have been like 9 or 8 years ago
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sorry if i don't post this correctly, newfag. just saw this on fb and wanted to share
So this is why Margot hasn't sperged out too badly lately, she's had a lawyer on her ass. This explains it, I mean she has sperged a bit but not what you would expect considering
a) Venus was in the hospital
b) Venus had a wonderful birthday surprise
c) people from other countries flew in to visit Venus in the hospital
d) Venus is just as popular if not more, although she hadn't posted in months.
So much for "but I
own all the brand, Venoos!"
Lol, no wonder she had to take the website down!
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Omg Margo's drunk bday tweets. Bish was eating fried chicken amd getting drunk by herself, and saying she's like the japanese and can't get a man.
Happy birthday, Mags! It's the day you deserve: shit faced and alone.
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Holy fuck, this is delicious.
Watching the Maggot finally shrivel up and die is quite the sight to behold.
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J U N G
>>492632>spanish red wine
a fancy way to call the cheap sour grape juice you were drinking. And it isn't spanish it's chilean you nutcase.>>492648
lol at the different shaped hips
>>492665> different shaped hips
Is this shooped? It doesn't look 100% like it, but with margo, you never know kek
I was gonna say "looks like she lost weight" but I guess not
>>492633>100ml of wine
Sure, Jan. More like the whole bottle + 5 bottles of soju>>492651
Total booze bloat
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She bought a new domain. She's now an aartist… again…
Omfg she really wants attention keeekhttps://m.facebook.com/MargaretPalermoOfficial/
> 'Are you missing out?'> 'Up again on popular request'> 'Videos back up'> 'missing out?'> 'missing out?'> 'missing out?'
That's how we like our forever alone marge. Begging everyday.
I wonder if Marge is losing right from VA website, too?http://www.artdesignkorea.com
Looks like an ersatz website to sell her shit.
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Oh definitely. She got her ass kicked off that Venusangelic.com website by Venus’s lawyers and now she’s scrambling. I love it.
There goes Mama Margit's monthly allowance.
you already won the higher score margo>>492706
Isn't it old? might be wrong but I recall seeing it linked to the hooker
massage site a while ago>>492712>Wholesale & Retail of KOREAN ART
"korean art" as in… Okinawa seashells and Venus' old drawings?
>>492716>Isn't it old? might be wrong but I recall seeing it linked to the hooker massage site a while ago
No, this >>492706
is a new blog she started. She’s freaking out that she lost Venus’s sites so she’s starting a bunch of new ones.
30$-40$ is still much for Margo who can hardly afford dollar store crap.
Is that even including shipping to Korea ?
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What's the logic? You really think picasso face marge needs logic?
She says:> Ich bin Venoos Angelic> My dottir boolies me> I invented the name bc Venoos is a Belle and the beast> I am mensa jung frau kawaii graduated in everything possible
So to recap, she's her own dottir who baptized herself Venoos, and boolies herself but Venoos is a beast bc Marge knows it the best bc she is a train psychologist from outerspace.
Does she need a logic to keep her daughter's accounts and website for herself???
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Margaret showing off her extensive medical knowledge acquired in 1 year of radiology school
Marge is a peice of shit but honestly shes right. Standing like that to take picture wont hurt you.
I beleive its runners and people who often put improper pressure on their ankles are the ones who suffer from foot pronation/supination. I think that person was reaching with that one.
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This comment though…lol…
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Margeholic has new jung sexy frau post in her ig.
Same anon as >>493052
She just deleted the original picture and i didn't keep it.
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> 'Hi, guys. I'm Margerat Palermo and I'm gonna teach ya 'bout laif!'
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And her paper bag keek
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And that of a money hungry wooman…
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A last one for today
She didn't get the venusangelic@gmail account back AFAIK. But she's got twitter, website and the verified / official Facebook.
With each victory the next wi be easier, as her lawyer can say "Google, twitter and Facebook have all found my client's ownership to be valid of these accounts."
Since google owns both YT and gmail, I wonder if she could get her business email back? Margo's ability to send emails as "Venus" is the last majorly damaging tool she has, besides her own crazy rants and whatever schoolgirl notebook margin scribbles may be rotting in storage (not that those are 'proofs' to anyone but Mags.)
I'd like to put her devil's eyebag in her face but:
1. I'm on tablet
2. I just have beautyplus to uglify her
But I agree with you, she needs eyebags to put her face into abyss, plus some slaps.
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So this old creep Bolinam has this pedobear image on his instagram (that’s Venus he photoshopped on his shoulder) tagged #VenusAngelic #KimJongUn #PhotoMystica
what the actual fuck
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Why not open it? He’s just another looneytunes marge stan who’s defected to Venus. I think it’s funny. I bet marge is mad she can’t even hold on to the few remaining stans she still has. #MAGA
This needs to be downloaded the second it goes up. Just by watching this >>493242
you can guess that it will be full of drunk and lulzy ramblings. Can't wait.
New followers like this o my proves how fetishy were Venus videos under Marge’s control. For example, Margaret is malicious enough to know very well that the tag “pantyhose” attracts shitloads of pervs with nylon fetish. I’ve seen a lot of actual random fetish videos that were incredibly similars to some content Margs was producing with Venus.
This woman is gross.
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brace yourselves, milk is coming.
>She did this for my birthday. She wants me dead. I can't believe she'd do this on my birthday.
Says the bitch who on V's last birth said " Your a mistake " to V. Says the women who wished Manaki to abuse Venus. She really does project her own hatred onto Venus, and accuses her of anything she wishes upon Venus herself. >>493245
I bet you it will have losing the websites included in the ranting. "How dare she take back her websites with her pictures and her name on it ". Of course Margo will avoid stating that it was a lawyer that pushed her to give them back, and just make it sound like Venus stole them with force.
>>493270>>493242>She did this for my birthday. She wants me dead. I can't believe she'd do this on my birthday.
She reminds me of an old lady in a mental institution that tells the nurse that the mess in her room was caused by her imaginary friend who wants to kill her… What a psychotic wooman!
If ridicule could kill, streets of seoul would be littered by corpses.
there was a woman who lived down the hall from me who accused the woman across the hall from her of leaving used diapers in her room and in front of her door with the intention of making her sick.
Same woman accused the tranny in the room beneath her of climbing up in to her room through the floor so he could rob her and possibly kill her.
Wonder if that level of delusion is in her future?
Suing a narc doesnt make them behave; losing infuriates them and makes them rage. Consequences don't matter in their rage, and if theyre confronted over it, they just double down and insist they're right.
Mags is so fucking angry that Venus didn't acknowledge her birthday, AND made a video about her own feelings rather than Margo's, that Mags created a delusion that the video was ONLY about Margo and her birthday. Her ego needs soothing after the epic burn of both losing in court and aging, and this is how she's gonna cope: not at all.
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Sorry if I sound retarded since I haven't really followed Margaret's threads, but is she really only 43? That would mean she was only 37 in pic related, which was 6 years ago. I know 50-year-olds who look younger than this.
By any chance is she lying about her age?
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As a kid she was rocked against the wall and drank too much alcohol. That's why she's retarded and uglily old.
I thought she was end-forties at LEAST. Maybe early fifties. What the fuck??
read the thread anon, she's currently 43. she was 37 back when that notorious interview came out>>493308
please stop, nobody wants to see your shitty edits she looks bad enough au naturel
They probably mean it in a way that's like anorexia and bulimia.
If you watch "supersized vs superskinny" a lot of the skinnies are just lazy, figure being thin is good, or believe "5n fruits a day is a requirement and carbs are bad" so they only eat fruit and are severly underweight but dont have an eating disorder just a lack of health knowledge.
Venus is probably similar and just eats small portions of shit food which makes her malnurished rather than eating small portioned balanced meals to be skinny.
It didn't come out on Mags' bday tho, it came out the day before.
The timing is coincidence; Venus doesn't obsess over her mom, it's the other way around.
Maybe the Lawyers silenced her from spewing hatred and defamation. If thats the case though, she's probably drunkenly raging to herself while boxes topple over and hit her in the head.
If Venus lawyered up, I could only assume she's going for more than just getting her accounts back. For the love of god, its been two fucking years of Margo sperging lies about her daughter. If I was Venus I'd put a court order on my mother if she was spewing lies to the internet for 2 years and sending people to harass me. I think Venus has probably reached that point where she's had enough of her mothers bullshit, and is working to put an end to it.
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When you fail in modeling so you try to make ur booly dottir follow ur dreams.
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This is all I see
Jesus. You should not look old at 25. 25-year-olds still get carded and often get mistaken for teenagers by older people. Here she looks older than my 48-year-old mother.
Venus is very lucky to look her age and not have inherited that Grandma face.
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Lol and the photographer even used the old school vasolene smear trick to try and blur out her haggard ass, even back then. You know it kills her that both her sisters and her daughter are all traditionally pretty, while shes always lioked like an angry witch
Also, Venus was already 3 years old when Mags was 25. The time to pursue modeling jobs is when you can live on a shoestring and show up on short notice for long waits for free (casting calls).
When you have a 3 year old and a husband, you have a responsibility to learn a real skill for a career
And when you have a face, nose and ears like Margaret does, you are shit out of luck on the entertainment career front, unless you want to become a charecter actor like Steve Buccemi (sp?) If Mags could handle being typecast as the ugly girl at the club (grenade), the evil teacher, the busybody PTA mom no one likes, the psycho ex, etc etc she might have gotten the odd actinga gig now and then.
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She's had a distinctive face since childhood; she's always looked like herself, and much older than she is.
Also bear in mind the blur on the old photos; like Korean selfie apps of today, photographers used to have lens filters to "soften" not-so-attractive women like Mags, who had eye bags and deep cheek folds for from jump
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Seriously. She needs coaching or apps before her eyes don't say "I will eat your soul. I care nothing for hu-mons"
Narcs need an expression to "play off of", in order to mimic human emotions. Another of her projections on Venus - remember Mags claiming she "studied micromimics"? Im sure she has, in that she had to study what faces people made for which feelings ib order to manipulate and emulate them more effectively.
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Zsuzsa fires back on instagram: “taking pictures does not make you a model.”
p.s. you could have been a model
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With a fuckin' modeling pic!!!
Man, Mags is just sat in her room staring at old photos of herself, obsessed with making Venoos pay for leaving her. Maybe today we'll get the big rant she claims to have recorded?
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>>493511>why not blame me?
yeah, why not? since you took so much pride on never taking your daughter to a doctor, maybe
the prolapsed stomach problem had something to do with that?
On a side note, we all know that kappa's stans aren't exactly the brightest, but this is fucking hilarious.
that is still not a professional modeling pic and that was exactly Zsu's point: photographers have a practice of so called "TFP" contracts (time for prints), something especially beginner photographers do. a model agrees to come and work with the photographer, but doesnt actually get paid. usually the model gets prints or only electronical files of the photographs (with or without editing as per agreement) and the photographer usually also gets the right to advertise himself with those pictures on his website. the model gets pictures (and practise) and the photographer gets pictures and practise. win win. but not modeling.
if that was modeling everyone would be a model.
sorry for the photographer-fagging
Yeah, it's around 8:30 in the morning in Seoul bow, so the tweet and "modeling" photos were all we got from her drunk rage tonight.
All we can hope is that she sees what Zsu wrote when she wakes up with a headache and grace is with some more milk. I really hope the hour long rant video exists, and that she gets pissed (in both the emotional and booze sense) enough to post it.
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She's having computer issues… supposedly.
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"When they tell you to make a sexy face but you don’t know how that works so you just look distrustful 😶
#margaret #throwback #howto"
I thought this was a new picture. Wow… then her child pictures didn't lie, she's really always had the old lady face since she was young. I'd feel bad for her if she wasn't such a terrible person…>>493501
This picture will never not blow my mind. Look at what beautiful little girl her sister is… and then there's Mags.
As poorly as she aged, I think Margo has pretty eyes. I like the shape and color.
Too bad she passed down the tiny mouth with shitty jawline on to Penus.
I don't think her jawline is bad; if anything she's got a huge forehead, but many people look good even with a fivehead.
A nosejob alone could be lifechanging for her, plus a lip lift and fillers for those rough face lines. She's already in one of the capitals of plastic surgery, if she got a real job she could save up money and fix her face to become a moderu so she will stop projecting her ambitions onto her daughter.
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Idk about Venus, but Marge's face is entirely ugly like hell. >>493619
She needs a paperbag.
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A round face + small mouth has a tendency to make people look younger/cuter actually, but Margo has a mix of other unfortunate features + premature wrinkling on top of the mouth and face shape that makes her look like an old bat. Venus lucked out by only inheriting Margo's decent features, and it also looks like she's been developing a more defined jawline now that she's getting older. Her dad must be way attractive to have balanced out the ugly on her mom's side.
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just this equally blurry one from ferenc’s ig
seems like a handsome dude
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Here’s a slightly better one. As usual, Marge looks… stylin’.
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>>493694>aged relatively well
Really? I disagree. Look at those eyebags and saggy jowls, come on.
i cant even explain why she looks so damn awful on this picture… her eyes look like theyre swollen from an allergic reaciton, her nose is bulbous, it looks like she has a receding hairline and then that granny hair style. not to mention the double chin.. and then the awfully cheap dress (the crinoline is visible)… >>493694>>493719
dont wanna take this bait again and cant post caps (because maggot's mother is not a part of this whole ordeal - at least not in lolcow terms) but common.. she looks worse than her own mother which is 20-30 years older.
>>493715>the poor guy
He's a raging cunt to his only daughter but by all means pine for his poor fragile self.
Venus was blessed with two asshole parents, not just one.
I doubt he even liked Margo to begin with. Margo trapped him with Venus or another pregnancy.
Why take it out on Venus i will never understand. I dont understabd folks like that in general.
I know we all thought Venus's dad woukd be happy to talk to her nowadays. But Christ is Venus lonely without Manaki.
She said 3 things about her phone call with her father:
- he asked if she was calling because she wanted money
- he aked how much she earned and
- he started talking bad about other family members
he did not ask her for money (that’s a rumor that’s been floating around)
Lol 21-year-old Venus could easily pass for 17-18 but 25-year-old Marge couldn’t pass for 35. She’s gotta be bitter over that lmao.>>493728
Maybe I could understand avoiding her if she were a minor and would still be dependent on him (maybe), especially if her mother was still in the picture but Venus is a full grown adult now who supports herself financially and doesn’t need to be taken care of. So yeah he’s a fucking dick for refusing to be a part of her life, but it’s probably best that way for Venus’ sake in case he’s equally as toxic as Marge (wouldn’t be surprising).
How is he a cunt?
Would you let your kid with Margaret knowing her? Well he did.
“She’s the mother” well, he’s the father.
Problem between the couple are not (should not) be the kids problems.
Imagine you have a child with an idiot.
The idiot now wants to take the kid away from you forever.
What do you do?
Hm, ok, its too hard, better delete this kid if my life.
This is what made him a cunt.
You HAVE TO be present in your kids life no matter what!
I don't feel like I understand Venus' life or her family business enough to make such judgement calls on her father. We don't what went down between the family, but what we do know is :
>Margo proclaimed before that the man abused her ( probably a lie but easy to manipulate a child into believing ) V probably thought her father was evil, and took her mothers word for it. I mean she said she almost believed her mother when her mother told her she had aspergers without a doctor diagnose.
>Margo jumped boarders and even countries with Venus. How does a father even have visitation with their child like that ?
>Margo is money hungry, and probably used Venus a lot to get money out of her ex. Possibly why he asked if thats why she was calling, because he doesn't know Venus isn't still with Margo.
>Margo is manipulative.
>Margo dragged the divorce on for years. I know a couple where the dudes ex keeps dragging him back to court to try and get more money off him by lying to court and demanding more financial support. I wouldn't put it past Margo to do the same up until she realized she could leech more off of Venus.
For all we know Margo could have self harmed herself and used it as proof of fake abuse against him to get full custody of V and zero visitations. He's just like the rest of the family, probably thought Venus was happy all these years because all she post online that they could even see was happy pictures. ( Tv appearances, modelling, toys and junk food, large following, travel ) Most who haven't really followed the pair would probably assume the same. A lot of V's biggest fans never assumed Margo was evil all those years either, up until the split and Margo went nuts. It really seems the same for Venus' grandfather and aunt, like they didn't know about anything till it blew up on the internet. This all just really shows how hard Margo isolated Venus and didn't let her connect with her family, or even have any friends at all.
Maybe he is a shitty dad because he didn't chase Margo across boarders or over sea to see him daughter. But Margo def didn't make it easy for anyone to get near Venus. She even took the girl out of school.
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Not ‘a new purpose’ but the old shop is back up (despite never selling a single item.)http://venusangelic.com/shop/
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Margo, the #mensa #autodidact, cannot figure out how to get a simple audio out of Final Cut Pro. The brains and editor behind the Venus Angelic channel, everyone!
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She's just hidden the shop page instead of removing it, like she did previously to her "legal" page that she stole word for word from Eat Your Kimchi. She does that because she doesn't want to lose all her "hard work" (lol her pages are made with wix or similar, she has no idea how to code)
The landing page has no link to the store page any more, and contains a broken "jigsaw" game that requires plugins; it won't work on any mobile device.
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lolllll not only is she selling the Etude House face masks at twice the price, but shipping them to the U.S. costs nearly 10x the price of the mask.
The Etude House masks are $1.99 each + $3.50 for shipping to the U.S. btw.
It's a WordPress site with the WooCommerce plugin. There's a link at the bottom that says "design by margaretpalermo" with a link to her site… but she couldn't even get a basic HTML link right. She didn't design it; it's the X theme by Themeco. Likewise, margaretpalermo.com isn't designed by her; it's the Culture Shock theme by pipdig.
At the bottom of http://www.margaretpalermo.com/
, it used to say>© 2010-2017 DOMAIN, CONTENT AND DESIGN BY MARGARET PALERMO
and now says>© 2010-2018 MARGARET PALERMO [DESIGN BY DIYPRESENCE.COM]
When you view the source code on http://diypresence.com/
- the favicon is
called diyp-logo-Margaret-Palermo.png. (Again, this site is not designed by her; it's the Hemlock theme by Solo Pine Designs.)
Is "DIY Presence" a new (failed) business venture? Can't wait.
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>>Is "DIY Presence" a new (failed) business venture? Can't wait.
She's always fancied herself a "web designer", as well as a master of SEO, despite having zero knowledge in either subject beyond "I can type things into a web form, and move around pre-prepared boxes to make the design unbalanced and ugly", and "add Jenna Marbles and PewDiePie to the search tags".
She's got a rash of new design related business ventures right now, what with DIYPresense and ArtDesignKorea.
But whatever happened to EndoRadiology.com, Mags? Now this is interesting: Margo thinks she's gonna break into nuclear medicine equipment sales in Korea?
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Here's her logo; surely this is stolen and altered from someplace else
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And what's this? Is out Mags at another medical trade show this week, which is cutting into her time to make hourlong audio rants at her daughter for not worshiping her mother on her birthday?
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And once again, the "design" is by DIY Presence.
Is Mags trying to distance herself from her name? Or is she making non existent shell companies because she has nothing else to do?
Those are just Wordpress websites that anyone can buy and paste in their info though, right? Not like she’s even ‘designing’ anything.
Must be getting desperate for cash to be planning these new harebrained scams (selling used radiology equipment? Really??)
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Don’t forget this high quality Wordpress websitehttp://www.artdesignkorea.com/about/
“retail and wholesale of Korean art”
you can see at the bottom where you can insert your information into it.
Such topnotch stellar web design!
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>inb4 evil venoos is hacking her
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She looks like a hungry poor girl who showed herself almost naked to make some money.
A bit of fat here and there and voilà! Some of her dignity restored.
There’s no excuse for a father to be absent from his child’s life. Margo “faking abuse” and moving from country to country with Venus only affirmed how unstable she was and this is the reason why he SHOULD have fought and not let his own kid behind.
Again, his problem with Margaret were not supposed to be Venus problems.
People do more effort to keep their dogs when a relationship is over.
Margaret and this guy are both the kind of idiots that should be castrated
Tbh in his defense, while he might love Venus a lot and we don't know the details – she is a walking reminder that he once put his penis inside Margot. Imagine living with the knowledge that you had your penis inside the Kappa.
I have a feeling that Margot has used Venus to call her dad along the years as a tool to get something out of him, that's why the questions. Why would he otherwise IMMEDIATELY assume she was after money, if Margot hadn't made Venus call before to blackmail money out of the man?
He's clearly not an involved man, but I kinda get him. Margot has accused him of domestic abuse, rape etc… I wouldn't be surprised if Margot hadn't sent people after him in the past with her lies. It's not like his past interactions to try to get in touch with Venus could have been anything less than hellish. Margot is this bad towards her own daughter, imagine how bad she was towards a man who wanted to divorce her. After a certain point you give up, and you stop thinking that you deserve to contact your child as you were never involved.
Just googling what narcs do during divorce speaks for itself.>Narcissistic parents often buffer the pain of a failed marriage by trying to destroy their ex’s relationship with the children.>Sharing child custody loosens narcissists’ sense of control.>Narcissists in their words and actions, often send their children the message that it’s not okay to enjoy time with the other parent. >A narcissistic parent will give the children choices about visitation or manipulate them into refusing visitation.>A narcissistic parent will put her own “spin” on details to brainwash the child into thinking the other parent is dangerous or incompetent.>The manipulative parent may even alter the truth in order to get the kids to blame the other parent: “Dad says you wanted the divorce.”
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She’s also accused him of being …. you guessed it …. a PSYCHOPATH abuser
(that’s where VENOOS got it from you know)
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Margo still can't figure out how how to edit an hour long video on a crappy mac air with limited RAM.
She really wants us to see it, when's the last time she did this much work on anything?
She is so disgusting and completely lacking in self awareness.
I feel so fucking bad for Venus. Margaret is an absolute monster - but that’s just from what we know. I can’t even imagine the kind of shit she put Venus through that we DON’T know about. I don’t doubt for a second that Venus suffered her entire life under her mother’s claws. My heart hurts for her and I hope she stays healthy and happy. It’s not easy to do what Venus did and cut the cord separating you from your one and only connection to the world. Marge did her best to try to make Venus completely dependent on her and she failed. It’s astonishing that Venus broke away and seems to be finding ways to thrive. She is a lot stronger and smarter than she gets credit for.
But she needs to edit out all her swears I'm sure, and if she decided to put her face in it, it requires hefty beauty filters.
It's weird how dedicated she is to making sure we get to hear her narc rage, though. I was sure she'd have thought baetter of it by now, but nope.
Kek, so I'm going to take a guess that the only person liking her tweets is herself.
How many followers does she even have on twitter ?
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It's all this guy, who has been thirsty for her for ages.
just when you think she couldn’t sink any lower follower-wise she hits another new low
she sure attracts all the winners
also >”Baal Diablo” @6Baal6Diablo6
ow the edge
I thought the same thing, lol
It broke lolcow
do you mean margo has something that resembles standards? gasp!
now seriously, i’ll try to check if they had an unpleasant exchange or some kinda history before, cause that doesn’t make sense. this rejection probably doesn’t come from a place of embarassment, she doesn’t seem to mind being seen talking to lapras kin tard and the boomer nutjob who photoshops venus in his shoulder after all.
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tin foil, but it looks like all tweets from that furry fat beast vanished for a while after he was posted here. he probably lurks.
in that case, i do feel uneasy knowing this ungodly creature could be among us. stay safe and spray holy water on your screens, anons.
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I saturated the colors of the kappa monster so that her genuine redness show up more.
This looks like a mugshot for a meth head.
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Marge found sth as cheap as her and posted it in ig.
I guess that the korean letters mean:> 'YOU'RE ADOPTED'
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Sorry for the sloppy editing job.
I'd sage if I could, because this is pure speculation, but the woman was wearing a black puffy coat and a light blue wool hat. I'm reasonably sure she owns those kinds of items… I fucking SWEAR it was Magoo, but her IG says she's still in Korea.
lmao I think I'm losing my mind.
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Is she in Germany?
If so, she's probably begging for money again and selling dirty mattresses or printers. Shart world tour 2.0 kek
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sounds like >>494484>>494547
or someone who read that post is tipping the cow
No idea, either it's the nutcase anon from >>494547
or someone else reading here asked her that
Someone from here tipping the cow.>>494597
I'm not the Germany anon, I'm the one who saw the doppelganger in Australia. There is definitely another woman on this planet who is European and who is Margo's twin. I was shook even though I knew it couldn't be her.
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So which Seoul rental has one wall of knotted wood, and another of brick wall carpeting?
So the downward spiral continues..from Starbucks to Denny’s and now Dunkin Donuts. Sad
haha, not really
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marge hitting up her old pal vexxed on Twitter
wait…. she's only 43?>>494759>reminisces over the good times. The mula times. The Vanis Angelicus times.>sees tweet 2016>retweets to start level again>>494664
If you look at the edges of the heart thing…. you can see it looks like she placed a place mat on the floor as there is carpet underneath….
Doubt it. He probably only used Venus and Margo for views and doesn't actually give a flying fuck about Margo. Certainly not enough to help her with petty tasks like harassing her daughter still after 2 years. Top it off Venus lawyered up and has been clearly proven the owner of all those accounts. If he's even slightly smarter than a fly he'll avoid helping Margo whose digging her own grave. If she slanders Venus, who knows, she might actually get sued this time.
Why take a hit for somebody else's vendetta.
Dunkun Donuts is Starbucks' main competitor as far as I know. They're basic but not really seen as trashy in the US, not sure where you're from.
Denny's is trashy, though.
Anyone else notice that you can't change the batteries in her DIY ringlight. What's the point?
Why didn't she get something like christmas lights, drill them through the table and insert similarly to a solar cell?
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How do you grip it? You can see that the back panel is locked in and you need to push the glued on part to the side to get the front off. The dishes sides prevent you from being able to slide it off and the middle one cant be slid at all.
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even easier… you wouldve just needed a circular light bulb but that deranged hobo is… something special.
I mean common, grasping the effect of light in veedeeos now?
Also I see maggot is finally embracing her whore lifestyle. Didnt even change after meeting customers. this is an unaltered screenshots my dear anons
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ewww finally caught an STD mayo?
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She looks like a kid who put a flashlight under their face to tell a scary story at summer camp. Way to highlight your massive nose, Margles.>>496068
… those are moles, anon, settle down.
While Margo rots in her basement room with carpeted walls, inhaling plastic dust from drilling a toxin filled $1 plastic plate, her son in law went to a salon to get a fancy dye job. Manaki said he wants to put more effort into his appearance for YT, and his channel gaining steam ought to garner us some milk.
Low quality LED light? Seriously??
And where's the ring of the ring light?
Why not higher quality LEDs, cardboard plate with a hole in the center for the camera, some wire, a switch and a flat battery???
And why put trendy korean wet skin make up if it makes her nose even bigger???
She looks like a nightmare. A good thing LED are low quality though.
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Mensa jung frau unfiltered
I REALLY hope she walked around outside wearing that sparkly eye shadow; there's a reason sparkly makeup is discouraged once out of your 20s. It gets stuck in every little wrinkle and makes anyone wearing it look even older than they are. >>496095
Imagine running into this crazed kappa on the street, with her dry, cracked, caked on lipstick and layers of sparkle eyeshadow applied in a basement now revealed to lie in crevasses of wrinkles.
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What a sweet smile.
margo please keep making these shitty diy videos>>496068
is this your first time seeing skin moles?>>496087>Why not higher quality LEDs, cardboard plate with a hole in the center for the camera, some wire, a switch and a flat battery???
too much effort for a mensa member, anon.>>496117
Please stop with the edits already >>496117
Stop with these creepy editing Daphne.
I just want to tell the editor that I actually enjoy every edits of maggot :)>>496117
Also Im really surprised how peaceful she is(no one cares)
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dude stop already. Your edits are not even laugh worthy. You just sound like the anon who spammed their unfunny memes about margo>>496283
Maggot, you're getting too old for that whorey look.>>496084
She's going to have a shitfit when his veedeeos get more views. Incoming rants about abusive manipulative peedofile psychopath Manaki. The only people who would believe her are her deranged asslickers and they're out numbered by her opposers.
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his videos are already getting decent views. much more than marge anyway
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while marge’s views are tanking
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Margo seemingly has been drunk tweeting, nothing milk worthy tho. Venusangelic site still has puzzle game and 'designed by margaret palermo' text on the landing page, so we can assume it is still in margo's clutches
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Nothing really interesting here.
But isn't it Venus' bunny?
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margo says it isn't. It looks so dirty it's hard to tell.
Venus thread is here → No. 522225
Stop with your fangirling, thanks
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Margo’s been on a bizarre rant about Easter (and Sainsbury’s). Only a few of her many tweets in pic related, but the divorce one is the most ridiculous - the woman she’s replying to jokingly said her husband gave her money for an Easter egg but she bought a bunny toy instead and Margo has to barrel in with her paranoia and projection.
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She’s loving Twitter today. Does she think her dire YT views are due to ‘suppression’? Nut job.
drunk tweeting as usual.
I thought Venus would block the weirdo on twitter too, but no.
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Newfag got u fam. I wouldn't be surprised if it was tho.
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Margo posted another selfie, just in case we missed her ugly mug.
Don't take that fucking doll, Venus
Margo most likely put her bodily fluids onto it to bind Venus back to her in some ritual at midnight under Beleth and his 85 legions of spirits
I thought it might have been given the "Ave Satanas" but knowing how crazy she is, I thought it plausible she went back to openly declaring her religious affiliation
Shame on me
It's from >>230628
which was posted early 2016, so definitely an old one.
It's pretty disgusting she STILL lords Venus' old shit over her head. Queen of not letting go, she is. Not surprising with how much she wants to go back to leeching of Venoos.
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Look at how nice the bunny in >>499341
is… Then look at it in Margo's window.
samefag, yes this is from Venus' original escape. I'm bored so reading old drama (already finished V's threads) and figure I'd drop the clean bunny for ref.
I wish I had followed this shit sooner, oh well.
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Bitch is still retweeting humblebrags she wrote on Venus' account
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What is she trying to say with that caption?
No more thirsty dudes in her comment section?
w h a t???
Also the fact that she still has "Venus' Mom" in her bio, move the fuck on Marge. Gross.
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b-but what if one of them is the ~rich old guy willing to marry for love~ you idealize so much, margs?
You forgot >Japanese
to finally stalk Venus "legally"
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And meanwhile margo is in the hospital getting a check up.
Yeah, Venus's dad's family is sure that Margot is pulling the strings of Venus still. The grandma was first more open and suddenly got suspicious when Margot was brought up, then she hung up.
Such a shame, hopefully Venus can get her grandma and dad to understand that Margot is cut off.
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Omg she thinks she's the female version of JCVD???
If I had a good editing app I would remove the bg and make lots of memes. But she makes me tired.
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I was just reading the comments and somebody asked her this
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That's what she reminds of.
JCVD widely spread legs.
Marge, widely spread ridicule.
she deleted this post
I wonder how many bad reactions it had>>500431
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Very original title, Margaret.
Damn, did I hear correctly that Margo basically stole from Venus' Grandmother and damaged her property. Fucking crazy bitch. When anons were talking about Venus' dad, I have no doubt that she did everything in her power to soak every penny out of him.
Does anyone know if the selling of the apartment is recent or in the past ? Like how would Margo even has access to his properties to even sell them without him knowing all these years… I personally hope she can clear things up with her father, and his family can see that Venus isn't the malicious one. I almost feel like she would be better off going to them and sitting down and having a cup of coffee with him. This was she could also probably visit her other family like her aunt. >>500385
50 bucks says that she's there for alcohol poisoning or related. Like why is she dressed in full gown ?
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Someone asks Mags about Venus's video. Margo claims that the unpromoted conversation Venus had with her grandmother was "lies and clickbait" and that Venus was calling her grandmother to ask for money… because apparently that's what Margo hears, when her ex-mother in law says their estrangement was caused by Margo stealing cash from the pantry?
Also, fucking kek at Margo saying Venus's video was "for clicks" under the video Margo literally copied from a popular channel and buzzfeed article. The article she had the computer read out in her video. For misdirected clicks.
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And Margo continues to direct people to fatass vexfag is they want "the truth about Venoos"! Uh, I think people were asking for the truth about YOU, Margo. They're asking if it's true you stole from your in laws and trashed the house on your way out, not the "truth" about Venus.
Bitch where's your weeedeeooo about Beenoos! Fucking liar. >>500484
It's not difficult to believe at all. From what we know of Maggot and how she's treated Venus since her triumphant escape she's vengeful and crazy enough to do that kind of stuff. I feel bad for Venus that the family's holding her mom's actions against her so she has no relationship with them, but can understand why if Maggot was as crazy as we know her to be.
Young marge ran away from home = normal.
Venus moves to Japan to live with her husband = "booly dottir ran away and left me to die"
Marge robs her ex inlaws and her ex-husband leaving him with no place to live and no money = normal.
Venus leaves giving her mother some money, bills, studies, appartment paid for 6 months, left lots of her belongings behind, says she loves her = booly dottir left me to die with nothing and robbed her moneys, computer, etc.
Double standards, projecting, that old frau is fucked up in her head
Venus was isolated by her mother from young age and she barely made friends that they had to move to another country.
Constantly losing contact of family and friends made Venus decide to open a youtube channel hoping that it would be seen by family and/or friends.
Like a throwing a bottle in the ocean.
Internet is the only communication tool she has with family. Posting a video like that was clearly to ask help. Imo she's in distress and needs her father.
That was not proven and more like he was worried Venus turned out like Margo and would use ppl for money.
Plus Manaki would never let Venus just give out money. He knows Venus is sorta conditioned to jump when family says so.
I see he video as a call for help that hopefully her family sees and reaches out to him. As he clearly want snothing to do with her because of Margo and is cautious. .
It sucks when parents punish the child as well when a relationship falls apart. Evdn if apart of me feels like he might not even care.
In a video before this she made a statement about how she isn't going to pretend to be happy anymore when she isn't. I suspect this is so her fans/community can understand why she's so sad or unmotivated.
With the video as well Margo can't claim Venus is making it all up and needs to respect her mother because Margo was a leech to her husband's family and burned bridges.
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does the content of the youtube shooters channel remind anyone of a certain desperate for views narc
Whether or not she intended for this video to provide some insight on the Margo situation (and I suspect she has wanted to shed light on this for some time) I think this was a smart way to go about it. How can Margo explain any of this? How can anyone watch this and call Venus a booly liar killing her mother?
Also Venus comes across as very passive. I doubt she'd ever come out and say anything to potentially "slander" her mother, so the phone call put a lot of things into perspective. Was it the greatest thing to post to her youtube channel? No, but it was very useful and strategic
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it is. and she used the photo to get people's attention on an issue with her daughter.
Venus and margo have been trading insults and slights for months. They have been going tit for tat on youtube and instagram. Marge says she is sad venus says she is also sad and people cant make you happy. Venus is smarter than a lot of people give her credit. She has been trolling marge. Venus is an international woman with european bite. Venus doesnt let any slight pass. Watch her videos. She answers everyone questions in her own way.
I think marge feels bullied because venus isnt giving in. its time for venus to buy marge a plane tix to hungray. Marge wants to be in a easy safe country but she is too edgy. She is kinda gangster. She cant make it in korea any longer and unless she wants to work for the yukaza japan is out.
tbh her grandmother also sounded like she already is slightly demented. >>500389
could be another reason why she cant go back to europe. Selling someone else's apartment sure could become a legal case or already is one.
I could not imagine a way of how to do it now.
I could only imagine that after the seperation and divorce venus' father might have let her and her mother live in the apartment he owned and that margaret sold it for some sweet bucks forging documents or his signature.
it was here https://youtu.be/aEeC_i8RS9A?t=274
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i love you guys
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Omg, i choked with my own spit! Top kek
Here's her other picture in case you feel inspired.
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Thank you anon lmao, I made a few but won't spam them, just gonna post my favourites
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Basically, Margo pretends to be a police officer, calls the grandmother to ask her about the call venus made, told her that said call is online on youtube. Grandmother talks about the money and things margo stole.
Margo asks if venus only called to ask for her inheritage, but gets no real answer (I guess grandma didn't quite understand). Grandma only answers that Venus calls from Japan and that's too expensive for "chit-chat".
> we had a nice talk
I think the grandmother didn't get that she was talking to margo herself, even when she identified herself as being margo and margo kept badmouthing venus (as she always does)
(she's crazy, is studying finances and earns 10,000 CHF/month,… <- the magical 10,000 again)
You're kidding me right??!
I can't with this level of psycho.
Venus studying finance…is that a partial truth or something Margo concocted as a HILARIOUS prank?
she's so disgusting…
I feel so bad for Venus, she's basically an orphan. Her father didn't want to do anything about her, guess he didnt even fight for custody and just didn't care. her mother is a fucking psycho, her dad's side doesn't want to know her and the only family she has is her mom's side (not really in touch) and Manaki.
I couldn't even watch the entire thing.
What the hell ?? omfg
This video needs to be reported for harassment. >>501415
I thought that they did?
My German is shaky, but to me they seemed accurate. The editing is really selective though.
Also, Margaret tried to make it sound like Venus hasn’t been successful in contacting her dad, and even said “well the father could write a letter!” (The implication being that if he can’t telephone, he should at least write.)
But in Venus’s “Calling my dad” video, Venus CLEARLY says “last time I called, Hans Peter said that you and my mom don’t like each other”. So Venus has talked to her dad, and recently. I do want to point out that Venus used the verb for telephoning (anrufen). She didn’t say something vague like “last time we spoke”, she said last time she called him.
Also, there’s a cut at 2:07 that strikes me as being off. First Grandma says that Venus is in Japan, then the video cuts, and then Margo asks “how did that happen and how much was that?” And Grandma says she stole a nightshirt and some money. It’s edited to make it seem like Grandma was talking about Venus the whole time, that cut makes me suspicious. I’d bet anything Grandma was talking about Margaret when Grabdma said “she” stole money.
How the fuck could Venus steal anything when she never even knew them
wtf this psycho bitch
How fucking childish. I wonder what would be grandma's reaction if she were able to recognize the fucking voice of Margaret. Let's just hope granny blocked Margo's number.>>501364>Have you gone crazy?
Yes ma'am. This bitch is crazy indeed
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How merciful of you. >>501493>inb4 evil brainwasher psycho hamster killer Venus teleported herself to Granny's house to steal her
You know, Venus is able to be at different places simultaneously. That's how she managed to bite Margo's and Manaki's fingers at the same time.
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i reported it, i hope that doesn't count as cow tipping or suppression of milk (obvs no mention of our long term observation of margo or any website at all) i believe the content of this is enough to be like ' no fuck that this is abuse'
i had an abusive mother and i want to see this bitches channel fucking burn. I hope others also report it. sorry for blogposting(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
It's amazing how far gone this crazy bitch is to not realize how manipulative this makes her look. She's a crazy cunt. >>501074
Can someone with talent make a gif of spiders crawling out of her vagoo?
>>501498> "I left, so Venus doesn't have to sell vegetables on the market"
Marge didn't say the same thing the day she saw her ex husband's carrot for the first time.
Years later she told V that if she leaves mama she'll have to sell herself. So marge thinks Venus is a vegetable.
When V moved to Japan to live with Manaki, marge was like "omg, a blond vegetable that studies, marries, makes friends, how dares she to have success?!"
Now she's vegetating every day and has internet as sole friend, trying to justify herself why mensa frau looks so stupid.
Looks like the less successful she is the more god-complex the shows.
But it's still his daughter and he could've raised her. But well, she wouldn't be Venus Angelic if it wasn't for Margo.
Giving up on your kid because it reminds you to your ex partner is very pathetic and that was what he did.
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I hate her happy bitch face in the entire video so much. She's just so fucking happy to destroy the little chance Venus has to somehow reconnect with her family (even if her father probably isn't worth it), it's disgusting.
also, who stole the money and stuff,Venus or Margaret? the video suggests it's Venus but there's a cut and it looks manipulated. And even if Venus stole 5 bucks as a kid, who fucking cares? that's "killed a hamster as a 3y old"level stupid.
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she looks so much like venus in this screenshot
I think it's safer to believe in Venus' video, since the grandmother seemed to realize from the start that it was Venus calling and the video didn't have any cuts, so I would say it's 100% certain that grandmother is talking about Marge, and Marge just cut it to seem like she's talking about Venus. If Marge still has supporters after this it's pretty much confirmed that they are blind idiots. Marge is so obviously manipulative in this video. There is no way they had a 50 minute friendly talk, since the grandmother didn't even realize who she was talking to, and Marge absolutely would have included some of that friendly talk in her video to show everyone that the dad and grandmother don't hate her.
I can't believe something like this is happening right in front of us, most of our flakes and cows are quite harmless but this is just something else
They might not know
margo is in SK. It doesn't seem the father is active on the internet or anything, so they're probably not familiar with YouTube and making money off it. Gramma here didn't even know V was married. I just think they've tried to keep to themselves over the years and I really think this "prank call" (just stick to "is your refrigerator running?" Marge, as least you won't give a geriatric a heart attack) has ruined any chance of venus getting to know her paternal family.
Oh and Marge is a fucking liar - claiming she never checks up on venus or watches her vids. >>501655
Her face drove me fucking crazy in this video, likes she's mocking venus' very real reactions, with her fake ass bullshit. The joy on her face when she realised she can twist everything to her narrative. Fuck her.
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>>501636>Can someone with talent make a gif of spiders crawling out of her vagoo?
Your request reminded me of Kiki's banner. Caption pretty much describes margo too>>501697
This so much.
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What a delicious social hemorragy…
People aren't stupid marge.
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It is indeed illegal to pretend to be a police officer in South Korea, and can lead to a 3 year prison sentence, or a 7 million won fine. Here it is as Article 118>Article 118 (False Impersonation of Public Official)>A person who exercises official authority by false impersonation of a public official shall be punished by imprisonment for not more than three years or by a fine of not more than seven million won <Amended by Act No.5057, Dec. 29, 1995>
Someone for the love of God get this psycho put in prison, she has broke a legitimate and serious law
bitch might think she can get away with it since she wasn't calling a Korean citizen or impersonating korean police.
I wish we could somehow send her sorry std ridden ass in jail…
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If it's not the Korean government who would be sorting her out, it would most certainly be the Swiss one. I was putting some research in their laws, and I found a second law she may have broken, which is Art. 258(249)>Art. 258249>Any person who causes fear and alarm among the general public by
threatening or feigning a danger to life, limb or property is liable to a
custodial sentence not exceeding three years or to a monetary penalty.
I say this as she put fear on her ex mil by threatening arrest. which would therefore be threatening a danger of limb (there is probably a better law fitting this)https://www.admin.ch/opc/en/classified-compilation/19370083/201803010000/311.0.pdf
People have been arrested for impersonation before, so even though I could not find the legal article for it, it is definitely illegal to pretend to be a member of law enforcement
I'm not Swiss, but I'm considering reporting her to the Federal Office of Police in Switzerland. Should I do it? We have footage of the crime, her birth date and real name…(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
As much as I want Margo to be put away for a long time, let's be real here: the Korean police really aren't going to investigate this kind of shit.
1) two non-Korean citizens involved
2) relatively minor crime, she didn't extort money or physically/sexually abuse anyone, etc
3) Margo's address is unknown, they're not going to search a hundred shitty goshiwons
/God I can't believe Margo did that prank call crap. It's like she has
to ruin everything for Venus.
She even admits at the start of the video she had no prior contact with her for 15 years, so basically when Venus was a toddler.
What the heck how can you be this transparent?
Yeah, I feel like really nothing will happen to this bitch.
But does Venus have a lawyer??
i thought incoming long distance didnt cost money? is that not the same for the rest of the world?
i assume its a land line since margo and v both have the number…
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her (almost exact) words were "she called from japan, that's too expensive for just small talk" after margo asked her if she thought that venus just called because of her possible inheritance.
gran seems to be distrustful of venus.
Which laws are applied? South korean laws? Swiss laws? Do international laws exist?
And about yt tos? The 2 tweets about that video got removed (sorry i haven't made screencaps and noticed yesterday she removed them). I guess tweeter is more strict than yt.
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>>502378>>502378>The 2 tweets about that video got removed (sorry i haven't made screencaps and noticed yesterday she removed them). I guess tweeter is more strict than yt.
Weird, I can still see these tweets. But >>502269
seems to be gone
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Someone tells her this on her veedeeoo; her response? No way, when she impersonates a police officer and threatens an old woman with arrest for the crime of Venus attempting to her a relationship with granny, it's actually her ex husband who's the liar, not Margaret. Margaret wasnt trying to harm Venus's family ties, she was trying to REPAIR them. NarcLogic!
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Margo was just protecting
Venus by meddling in her nascent paternal relationships, clearly. If only she'd come to her senses and realize that life as a semi homeless prostitute being pimped by her mother from various foreign countries is waaaaay better than having to live on a stupid farm, or with her loving husband.
I think she has been triggered
again because Manaki has been steadily uploading silly videos. Videos that are getting much higher views, with no promotion, and receiving lots of positive comments from Venus fans.
Who does Margo got to encourage her? Lecherous married old men, Autistic guys incapable of living without assistance, weeb girls who wanted to be Venus Angelic at some point and damaged women who had abusive ex’s.
Ah, the same diet with such scientific advice as "mexicans are fat becaise they are corn" and "Venoos, i beat you if you eat a potato, this violates the blood type diet fatty. And then you eill never marry Mr Yan-san"
BTW, there's a great joke Mana and Venus make in his latest video: they see the bodyline store in harajuku and he's all ~venus tan wanna go into bodyline?~ and shes like, hell naw.
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Mags is still going off in the comments of her "prank" video. Venoos will strungle her with her bare hands
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And now Venoos 'gaslights' poor Margaret (by asking granny why she doesn't like Mags? Thats gaslighting to mags, huh?), and even pays people off in order to belive her!
Proof please of strungling and bribes, Margo.
So Mags' excuse as to why she doesn't just let go of the hoard in the Netherlands thats bankrupting her is: the storage holds the only True and Honest life story of the famoos psychopath Venus Angelic, an without these proofs Venus can just murder Margo by moving on with her life.
Holy fucking enmeshment, Batman.
wow… If never seen such a deranged nutcase…
that is one special case.
tbh im just waiting for the next >14 year old venus wants to weight 45 kg >SEE!!! TOLD Y'ALL! SHE IS A MONSTER
ah, i accidentally posted the same pic as you. I can't get over the buzzwords though. like she googled narcissistic abuse, recognized this behavior in herself and went 'no u!!'
i see this so much in narcs lol
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And she used it twice in two sentences. It's like when your dog has a new toy and won't let it go.
the worst part is THIS is gaslighting. because just in case venus has researched this/gone to therapy and had it explained, on the off chance she sees this lunacy it is possible she will doubt herself.
'maybe i WAS bullying/stealing/trying to kill accidentally' doesn't make a lot of sense but she has been subjected to this ~gaslighting~ her whole life and it just changes how you think
>>503198>i gained more and more weight without eating more
500 extra calories a day is 1lb a week. That adds up>Milk diet>lower calories made me weak
probably because she ate shit to make up those calories
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I'm laughing, what a delusional idiot.
The interviewer Richard Martineau is french canadian, the tv show Les franc-tireurs is french canadian and the tv channel Tele-Quebec is french canadian. And despite the interviewer speaking good english Marge understands nothing, get triggered
by everything and doesn't want to shut up to let adults speak.
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How fucking pathetic is it to RT the old shit you wrote to yourself while pretending to be your child
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Boring new ig post
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Another boring insta posting…
Oh my god fucking stop going on about the "crime" it's ridiculous. Step out of your child's dreams for a second. The law enforcement of Switzerland is going to what, demand someone in Korea be extradited for saying once "I'm the police" and it not even being heard? Try to imagine yourself arguing to a cop at a desk that that constitutes usurpation of the office of.. I dunno, Swiss police? Hungarian police with that accent?
Furthermore saying over and over again oh I think there's a law against that ooh (when it's irrelevant because you KNOW no one is fucking going to press a charge against her) is not milk it's basically blogging.
>>503509>wants to now kill you?
it's full-on narc-delusion.
for a narcistic mother leaving
is the exact same thing as killing
. she's babbling about this from the beginning when she threatened to "go into the river".
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Distinguished Mensa member Mags shows off her garbled misunderstanding of the vocab word of the week, 'gaslighting'.
And "she deletes her past!" is an interesting claim coming from the woman who regularly purges her drunk social media rants
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Margo makes a joke about never starting or finishing anything in her life.
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Wonder where she's at.
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Margo not buying things just for fun? That would be something new.
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Margo ~casually~ trying to get an excuse to badmouth her daughter
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kek let's see how long it takes
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Mostly, she just answers boring questions about Korea/travel/food.
Vaguely noteworthy bits:
>00:17 - She claims to still be studying Korean and writing a thesis (doesn't say about what)
>00:26 - She answers a creepy question from the Lapras guy (the answer is boring/generic)
>2:11 - The one question about Venus. Mags claims to have last spoken to/seen her on 7th December 2016 and says she "just lives her own life" (in response to how she is adjusting to life without her).
>2:31 - Talks about why she was in hospital (a teratoma)
>5:33 - Says she won't go back to Hungary because her "ideals changed", "the problems in Europe also affect her country" and "the healthcare isn't good enough"
>6:49 - Says again she'd have another kid if she got a husband
That vitamin B12 deficient eats clay (used by antivaxxers to "detoxify" from unwanted vaccines), shea butter + sugar (ingredients for diy lip scrub), was she rocked too close to the wall as a kid?
So she puts food on her face to feed herself and eats clay, shea butter and sugar to have inner beauty??? Or she mixes both in case she falls asleep while eating and her head falls in her plate? I don't get it.
I'm tented to send her crayons for her to eat. That wooman eat eveything
>>507452>I had many pets in my life
Someone else expected Venus to be listed among them?>>507497
thank you anon>>507603
The way people take these statistics is very largely exaggerated. The chances are, you probably won't
encounter any of these problems. The biggest obstacle for Mags being 42 is that she won't have an easy time conceiving naturally.
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Makes sence… 25 "model" accourding video in 00:40 sec. Aa 26 years old overweight girl… yeah.
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And i thought she said her varizellen on her legs because of the bloodtype method went back. So what's that?
Marge was at mensa, it costed too much to make the test, she saw a tape measure and that genius thought she could mesure her IQ with it. 152 cm high IQ, Venoos, see? You must respect mama, booly!
Since then she eats lipscrub mixed with clay and became the constipated woman we know.
How appropriate is it that the only thing Mags can give birth to at this point is a ball of horror that explodes her fallopian tubes?
Yet she's still dreaming about trapping a new ~~~wallet~~~ man with a visit to a fertility clinic.
she's 43 and venus is 21. that means she got venus when she was 22 ?
so apparently she modeled with a 3 year old child? I call bullshit.>>507935
couldve been a 1 page essay piece she has to hand in for her language school. "thesis" my ass
Seems like she is on that weird fad that some health nuts and celebrities(like Shailene Woodley) promote, claiming that eating Bentonite clay helps “detoxify” your body of heavy metals and treat various ailments. Yeah…
So, did she ever disclose what her “life-saving” medication was for? She claims she has a few conditions that are so much more serious
than whatever Venus will ever have.
I feel like it's a mix of both Margo and Venus' own self-image issues which is probably made worse by having so many fans watch her all the time.
I have no doubt at all that Margo is going to use this against Venus, though.
Some things anon left out that I think are important:>Said she was binge-eating a lot more after running away from home>Manaki expressed concern over her binging and then starving for days (guess Margo never told her that's not normal)>Said she felt really "unwanted" at the time and thought she'd be happier if she was thin>Got an infection after the initial WLS
What a mess, and what a hackjob of a doctor.
what the fuck did I just watch>>508532
So this is why Margo was so smug about Venus divorcing and losing her visa?
At the time she claimed Venus had sent her an email about it, and showed screenshots. We had theorized that she was sending them to herself using the venusangelic g-mail she had taken control of.
It's a lot sadder now in retrospect. Venus said she didn't have a single person to talk to at that time, and went through the entire surgery and recovery alone. She probably reached out to Margaret out of desperation and loneliness.
In the less tactful way possible, to boot.
Margo leaking sensitive stuff that should've keeped out of the public eye, making memes and death jokes about Venus, then asking why no one believes her
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I wish she was in a place where she could get therapy, because she definitely needs a lot of it. I hope the friends she seems to have made stick with her because she really needs other people. This is what happens when you isolate your child and try to pimp her out for money, Margo. What a disgusting cow, I really hope men notice her craziness and stay away, no child deserves to be born to this bitch.
I think it can be common for women with disordered eating (to the degree that Venus seems to experience it) to have some difficulties with sexual intimacy. Margaret is so smothering that I can see how letting anyone ‘in’, in any way, could be hard or even frightening for Venus.
I’m glad she has Manaki, who seems to accept her as she is, regardless. He’s a nice guy, and I’m not saying that in the asshole way. At least Venus has him and his mom to help her out a little. It sounds like Manaki’s mom is extremely understanding, too
Forgot about that, thanks anon. What a miserable dick nosed cunt. Venus was pretty desperate. This is why your daughter wants nothing to do with you anymore Magoo. There was an opportunity and she couldn't just be decent about it, she had to go and exploit her own daughter's suffering. No wonder she thinks Venus wants to strungle her to death now. She probably does. >>508571
It makes me feel like she has some hope to hear that Manaki's family seems to support her and like her so much. Venus seems like a badly damaged but incredibly sweet person.
For clarity, I’m ~not saying they have no sex life. I said having a healthy relationship where you let someone in can be scary. This isn’t any kind of revelation to anyone with either an ED or a consuming or smothering narc for a parent. On the contrary, I think they’re obviously in love and have a lot of fun with each other.>>508580
It made me feel so much better that Manaki’s mom was so understanding. She must care for Venus a great deal. Hopefully seeing how a real family (and mom) treats the people they love is opening Venus’ eyes to the truth that there are good people in the world. She’s been very brave lately, and sharing her feelings can only be a good thing for her at this point.
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She didn't keep it a secret, just lied about the cause, Manaki even went to visit her to the hospital
wow. one of maggot's delusions was actually real. wow.
summary stolen from kiwi:
-Venus got weight loss surgery from a Korean doctor she found on the internet in 2016
-She didn’t tell Manaki as he said he would divorce her when she mentioned it to him
-The doctor didn’t remove her stomach, but closed off access to 2/3 of it using stitches, and attached her small intestine to the smaller stomach pocket
-Venus’ highest weight was 130 pounds
-She got the surgery bc when she first starting eating in front of Manaki he didn’t understand her disordered eating habits, and he convinced her to eat more normally, bc of this she went from 90 pounds to 120 pounds
-Venus has an abnormally large stomach, which explains her large quantity eating videos (she was not bulimic as some people have guessed)
-After the surgery she had a bad infection and puss leaking out of the wound
-The Korean doctor took out her appendix and gall bladder for unknown reasons
-The reason why she was hospitalized was that the stitches cutting off access to the rest of her stomach had come loose, and without an exit the food that went into that part came right back up
-She became severely dehydrated and it took a couple weeks in the hospital to get her to normal levels in order to do tests
-When she confessed the surgery to Manaki, he became upset, and he called his mom, his mom said they should feel bad for Venus bc doing this must mean she was very troubled and alone
-The Japanese doctors gave her the option of having her stomach reduced to a very small size or having her stomach kept the way it is and repaired
-She opted not to get a smaller stomach, because Venus doesn’t want any of her followers to do what she did, and sacrifice their health for their looks
-Venus ends the video talking about taking care of your health is what makes you beautiful, no matter what you look like, and that she isn’t happy with how she looks, but she knows being a good person matters more than her appearance
Margo's the victim, she never does anything wrong,
the internet and the bullies are always the culprits, etc.
In her fucked up mind, her shit parenting and narcissim had absolutely nothing to do with it
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this is fucked up on so many levels. she has a huge scar going over all of her belly.
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infection and swelling which led to the first hospital stay, when she told about an "abscess"
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Don’t feel sorry for her
She’s an idiot
Margo was a shit parent but Venus is an adult
If she can run away getting married to japan then she’s dumb enough to make stupid decisions like this
Maybe she told Manaki the same lie she told on instagram, seen here >>508594
Of course that raises the question of why would Manaki believe her lie when she had mentioned the weight loss surgery before, but unless Manaki makes a statement about it we will never know. I'm guessing he had his doubts but chose to believe her anyway.
She told Manaki either when she got sick, or while she was in Korea (so, in May or June 2016, either when she got surgery or a month later.) He's known for the past 2 years what's up.
Manaki has said they sleep in the same bed (his) every night, I'm sure he's seen his wife naked since she came clean nearly 2 years ago. They fought, his mom told him to love him wife for her flaws and have sympathy for the self hatred and loneliness V must be feeling to hide her ED and surgery from him for some period between a few days and a few weeks.>>508640
When she was in hospital in JUNE 2016, y'all.
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at 11:00 she starts explaining the procedure in south korea
>>508641>She told Manaki either when she got sick, or while she was in Korea >When she was in hospital in JUNE 2016, y'all.
bitch, did you even watch the fucking video
at least decide.
starts at 19:45>after talking with his mom he came back to the hospital after a couple of days and apologized.
he said the he will support me… blablabla >and then I was kinda able to open up to my friends blablabla>everyone was so supportive and it pushed me even more to go towards the right direction, to take care of my health. blabla >so I didnt choose the option where they wouldve cut off 2/3 of my stomach.
>>508643>>bitch, did you even watch the fucking video
at least decide.
lol calm down, girl. Yes, I watched the video. Nothing at that timestamp indicates she didn't tell Mana until her SECOND hospitalization. She went to Korea in May 2016. She was hospitalized in June 2016, initially. She says she told him, then her friends.
Why so angry?
This is just heartbreaking. It's amazing Venus has turned out so well despite Margo making every effort to fuck her up for life. If she had any sense, she'd see that having an intelligent daughter that spoke several languages fluently, who accompanied her on her round-the-world shenanigans with minimal fuss - it's something most parents would be proud of.
Not Margaret, she instead cultivated an ED and crushingly low self esteem. Bitch has a heart blacker than her fried-off double home-permed hair.
another anon but
she told him, then her friends and then made the decision what procedure to do in the hospital in japan?
to me it also sounds like she only told him a few months ago. there is nothing in the video indicating otherwise.
>>508639>that she got her stomach stapled and it was blown out.
if i understood her correctly, the doctor meant to sew the intestines directly to an upper part of her stomach and to close the stomach with stitches. the stitches got loose when food started piling up there, because there was no exit left. she also had a prolapsed stomach somewhere around her hip bones.
she had no medical documentation with her and the hospital has closed down in the meantime because the doctor who operated on her and owned the hospital is in prison for killing a popstar with a botched up surgery similar to the one that venus got.
sehoon kang http://www.koreabiomed.com/news/articleView.html?idxno=1058
I kinda can explain why her gallbladder got removed since I had the same procedure as her, and my surgeon actually explained why gallbladders sometimes need to be removed, the gallbladder gets filled with rocks due the super fast weight loss in a small time of time (doesn't matter if it's 2 months or 3 thats a small time to lose 15+ kg) and can cause an infection that can kill you, No, my doctor didn't remove my gallbladder, only a idiot would do that.
sorry for the bad english, and sorry If the comment come of as a blog I tried to not make it that way, Im not really sure why the doctor removed the appendix.
Dude, if you watch the video she clearly explains that she went to Korea in a visa run, told Manaki she was gonna get it done while she was over there, he gets pissed, doesn't talk to her a few days, she does it anyway and decides to "deal with the consequences," then after talking to his mom Manaki contacts Venus to say he supports her.
The time when she was in Korea when Manaki wasn't talking to her was most likely when she reached out to Marge out of desperation.
Damn… I can’t believe she finally admit it. What a terrifying ordeal! But I think the sickest part of all this is that now that Venus has admitted to the surgery, all Margaret will do is gloat about how she was right. No genuine sadness FOR her daughter. How can a mother see her own child fall apart mentally and physically and from Day 1, all she cared about is that she no longer has access to her child’s income?
When Margaret already knew about the Venus’ mental state and learned about the surgery with a doctor who maimed others and already KILLED someone, all she could focus on was: Venus stole MY money and YouTube channel, and Manaki is a brainwashing transgender pedophile who also wants MY money and YouTube channel. How can a mother not be dying inside to see their own baby destroy them self? I know I’m just repeating the same questions we all have asked, but I just can’t get over how cruel Margaret is and how she feels she has no part in Venus’ fucked up situation. After Venus left SK, Margaret couldn’t even lie and say something like “Venus is in a severely distressed mental state and may hurt herself, so I want her come back”. She would have secured a pretty good concerned mother act with that and had Venus fans on her side. Instead, Margaret just automatically jumped to insults, humiliation and bullying tactics. And fucking memes!
I’m actually worried about poor Manaki. He really is a strong, loving man with great parents. We don’t get to see the anguish and uncertainty that he has been through as well. Watching his wife dying before his eyes and finding out about all these fucked up behaviors AFTER marriage, all while her cold-hearted mother tried to turn him into the villain. There was also that weird situation with that Korean guy and his own admitted feelings of inferiority. It must be so painful. I hope Manaki is able to talk to his parents often and Venus doesn’t forget his suffering too.
I normally get such a laugh out of the cows, but Margo's behavior is just sickening. She makes me so legit angry.
Venus is honestly an incredibly sweet person, but she has so much damage to undo because of this cunt.
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it sounds like he was doing a gastric sleeve/stomach staple that went bad. Literally the only reason I know about this surgery is because I watch my 600lb life and that's the surgery they do for all the morbidly obese patients…I never in a million years would have guessed its something that regular or underweight people can get!! It's so extreme, it's like a last resort if you will literally die otherwise from obesity-related health issues. But then again Venus did say the surgeon literally killed people before so maybe it's not so commonly done on normal weight patients… what a nightmare.
All the news revealed is fucking horrifying. Literally what nightmares are made of. Poor Venus . . . I think it was unwise to go through in the first place but it seems like she is being very mature about it now. I will admit I am confused about the timeline, if she had to hide the scars from Manaki etc but I suppose that is all past.>>508647
Agreed that sucks, makes me wonder if there was some sort of (safe!) procedure she could have gotten from qualified surgeons. Or maybe something as simple as compressive garments like girdles could have helped her feel sated.>>508544
I think Youtube is bad for Venus in many ways but it seems like she chose to make smarter decisions so she could be a better role model to the people that watched her. Not ideal since they have separate channels but letting Manaki take the limelight for a bit and being an accessorie to his channel for a while might be an OK compromise (I like Manaki's videos better tbh).
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Should have went to dr now
About the speculation if Manaki knew or not, the way Venus tells it is confusing but as I understand it: Venus called Makani in Korea and asked him if he would be ok if she got weight-loss surgery. Manaki basically was like 'hell nah' (said he would divorce her if she did it) but Venus got it done anyway with the mindset that she will deal with it on her own if she got no support, and without telling him she did iit. She kept it a secret in Japan ( and likely told him the same lie she told on instagram >>508594
to explain the scar) and only when she was hospitalized again in Japan two years later she actually told Manaki and her friends the truth. Which was when Manaki was upset with her and his mother spoke out to support Venus which caused Manaki to come around and also support her.
This would appear to be the procedure she had, but a) the rest of the stomach wasn't removed and b) she also had part of her intenstines removed as well. Based on what she says in the video, it sounds like she continued to overeat after the surgery and it put stress on the stitches to the point that they burst. The doctor was definintely a hack, doing such a proceure on a person who was far from obese is unethical to begin with, but also to blame is the fact that Venus never got counseling on healthy eating habits and didn't know how to adapt her diet after surgery. It's on surprise she burst her stitches if she was used to regularly eating that much.
That said the hack doctor might have saved her life by not removing the excess stomach and just stitching it up, so the food still had somewhere to go after the stitches burst (even if it meant she threw all of it up). If her stomach had just ruptured and the food had gotten into her abdominal cavity instead she would have died within hours.
Anyone remember when they were fundraising for an apartment in Korea, and now she's sorta saying it was a visa run/surgery for why she was there. Was that fundraiser/gofundme for the cost of the surgery ???
Anyone remember how much they were asking for ?
And seriously, Margo I'd say is at least 50% at fault for letting this happen even if Venus is an adult (18). Margo controlled Venus' bank account(and everything else) to the point that Venus didn't even know the cards code to access it. Margo never left her side, and damn well knew her daughter has a mental illness. All in all it was a shit decision on both their parts and even more shame on Margo for using it to drag her daughter publicly. >>508819
Sounds about right. She def still tried eating challenges and ate excessively. I almost don't think it was her stomach or actual hunger making her over eat. Venus was probably an emotional eater, and what ever pleasure or joy she got in life with Margo was from food. Hopefully now she recognizes that its a psychological issue and not a physical at all.
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Margo probably thought that after the video everybody will come back to her and telling her that she was telling the truth all the time and that veeenos is a psychopath and liar but instead everybody feels sorry and support her even more.
But fuck the entire operation story >>508622
made my skin crawl. No matter how cringey she can be at times but I really wish her the best for her, mentally and physically. Hope that shit won't effect her health too much for the rest of her life….
>his mom said they should feel bad for Venus bc doing this must mean she was very troubled and alone
Confirmed for best mother figure Venus has ever had.
I mean, she's hella stupid for doing it, but I do feel really sorry for her. She must have had some serious shit going on to go to those extremes. No ED my ass.
>inb4 white knighting
I'd want her to be happy to spite Margo more than I want to shake my head for her being this stupid. Pissing off Margo > Making fun of Venus.
Cold as always. And this miserable thing wants to try for another baby if she can? I have a feeling she could never even keep a pet dog or cat by herself because they would sense her rottenness. >>508841
Indeed! I’m really kind of amazed by the incredible support Manaki’s parents have provided in the background. It must have been quite shocking for them to learn about Venus’ troubles and consider the threat of both Margaret and the Internet against their son. But maybe they are not aware of just how deep this all goes on social media?
I know most of us here are petty bitches, but I can't believe there are still people who want to shit on Venus or think that she's a cow, too. I feel so sorry for her, Margo seriously fucked her up. I can't believe how mature and reasonable she seems in her videos, too. Poor kiddo.>>508829
Nah, the fundraiser was when she still lived with Margo, the visa run was when she had already ran away>>508879
Seriously, quitting youtube and going to a school would be so much better for her. She relies on internet attention too much, and being in the public eye will most likely fuck her up when/if she tries to recover. But on the other hand, i think youtube is all she has ever known, since she started so young? It's pretty much the only constant thing she has ever had, so I don't think she's likely to just stop doing videos or posting on instagram. She seems to think of her fans as friends
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That's margo's reaction on instagram.
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I'm sure she has some plan, but most probably not one doing Venus any favour
She doesn't seem to be psychotic at all. And I've seen many people being psychotic.
Plus going public and confronting your problems can actually be a first step to healing. She wrote on insta that she is having an appointment with a second therapist soon.
Sorry for being off topic.
same old same old. once venus is the evil perpretator who is gaslighting margaret, then she is the innocent victim who gets gaslighted… by whom?
manaki even tried talking her out of it.
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>>508891>and is probably gaslighted day by day
yeah, you did that Margo.
Oh, I must of misheard her then. I thought she did this procedure when she was living with Margo in Korea, and they were both fundraising money possibly for it. No doubt this was an expensive procedure hack or not.
Just doesn't make sense for her to tell Margo about it after she ran away, since Margo was spewing mad amounts of bullshit and hatred about her on the internet. Why give your mother that kinda of information when she's already spewing your personal business all over the internet. >>508898
She's been extremely sick a lot and emotionally healing. I doubt Manaki invaded her personal space or even attempted to sexually advance on her. They also had opposite schedules with him working nights and sleeping days and her being awake during the day and sleeping at night.
Plus within these past 2 years she's probably spend at least 7 months or more hospitalized or in and out of the hospital.
>>508890>I would like to save her
Omg literally made my skin crawl. Yes of course Magro, you're probably rubbing your hands and making the same face you did like when you called your exMIL.
Even if you hate someone, and even more if it's a family member, you'd feel pain and distress for them to be so desperate that they went and botched their own bodies for no reason. It's not like Venus decided to cut her own hairs or even shave her head. She didn't simply went through a new fashion style. She went to a doctor that had bad reviews, alone, to get her body butchered.
Just because fat people do it that it's safe and sound, it's because those people are at the risk of dying otherwise.
I'm not even close to Venus and I'm honestly so saddened that she felt so terrible she went through a freaking illegal major surgery. She could have fucked my bf behind my back and I'd still feel bad for her.
Idk, tl;dr: fuck magro. I hope she gets nothing and die alone. She's freaking poison and never thought to tell Venus she was perfectly fine and good. She was busier contemplating selling her off to old rich men and pushing her to eat tons of nuggets for the $$$.
>>508904>I thought she did this procedure when she was living with Margo in Korea
she moved to japan in february 2016
the surgery was in may/june 2016