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Margo now claims to be in the US, where she plans to launch a lawsuit to reclaim "her" channel from Venus. Having missed the cutoff date for the counter-notices, Venus' channel has been reinstated and right now Margo looks to be shit out of luck. Here's to more Margo milk.
The early drama from Venus running away from home to her husband:http://pastebin.ca/3409281
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Some pertinent grabs from the end of the last thread:
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THE CHANNEL IS BACK.
I almost cannot believe this. Good for Venus! I hope it stays up, and Margo goes into the river.
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Maggots teenage stans are hard at work. The gaslighting is unbelievable.
Some lines are gold, but the way she deliver them is cringy af kek
At least she prooved she doesn't need her mother to write anything for her, looking at how Maggot fails miserably at making any funny joke in her own videos.
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Would Margo dream of sockpuppeting? Never.
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The English is still too good to be Margo. I also imagine she can't speak that calmly about the situation even if she was pretending to be someone else.
A lot of these are trolls trying to get milk from Margo or just stir the pot, I really don't think they're all her.
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oh margo, can you at least be honest for once?
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staying with a religious, Korean-American oldie?
I didnt watch the video.
Marg says in her comment with this pic that watchers of the video found it #funny and #relaxing.
Did she try to pull some more of that asmr shit again?>>273763
And the camera flash adds a twinkle to her eyes.
Maybe Maggoo got an idea from that girl who decided to put her virginity to an auction on eBay, which got bought for huge amounts of money by some Arab.
After Benoos loses popularity and doesn't bring money anymore, sell her to a rich Arabs for millions and enjoy unlimited Denny's.
Holy shit, this is hilarious. Plus, the last minute or so is basically just "I don't have a regime for my skin tone- you can do the things I do no matter what color your skin is!"
I'm so glad her channel's back under her control.
Him talking about being "very entertained" by Venus eating candy made him sound suspicious as fuck.
He sounds so fucking weird. >Venus needs a Margaret behind her life to make her successful
What the fuck? This guy is a piece of shit. >She didn't make a new YouTube channel, obviously she's not business-minded
Or maybe she's been so stressed from her insane mother's smear campaign + other shit that the first thing on her mind isn't fucking YouTube? Holy shit.
Yeah, it's just you.
I know people here desperately want to believe Venus is this pure innocent victim, but you're fooling yourselves if you're honestly still trying to say that every bad thing she's doing even up to this point is still Margaret's fault.
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To me this is another annoying comment from ol' bible verse spouting "I love ALL my kids" grandpa ferenc. He's pushing for Venus to kiss & make up w/margrut so they can all be a big happy familyyy. He's a naive old man & needs to butt out and stay off V's page w/this shit.
I can totally see maggs conning the old guy out of $$ w/fake stories about how she's seen the light and accepted Jesus into her life and how much she loves Venus and only wants the best for her, blah blah fucking blah. Sociopaths are expert manipulators & con artists.
gomi is such a weird place tbh. everyone there is a marathon-running business-owning mother-of-five with perfect makeup and six different degrees from world-class universities, who homecooks a nutritious meal every night for their superhot husband but still has time to bitch about youtubers and bloggers for 5 hours a day lmao
i'm surprised they aren't on venus's side tho. they're always going on about how the kids of bloggers are gonna hate their parents when they grow up and realise they've been used as a prop to make £$€.
are you triggered
by mention of gomi anon? too close to home? go bitch about freckled fox.
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Venus changed the title of her video. I guess because there's a lot of triggered commenters on her insta?
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Venus is so happy to be back; another video incoming
it really shows doesn't it.
and maggot's silence says it all. for now she is toast.
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… the fuck is this? Venus's channel is listed under MARGOS channel??
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Well, Venus had more insider knowledge than us, but she was probably worried that Margo would take it to court before her channel was restored. She really does look better, though, I was so surprised to see the drastic change in her tone and appearance after she knew her channel was going to be returned for sure.
Do you guys think that she has disowned Margendo completely?
(ot but you mean imovie and it isn't crap at all.)
I'm not sure marge has a mac, just her phone and whatever computer she can borrow the use of.
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Well it certainly looks like she's not staying with the 'artist' any more if you can't leave reviews until the booking is over.
Shitty Google Translate of the Korean comment:>Margaret has a quiet, gentle nature. As consideration for the other party guests to concentrate on their work. Enjoy everything as is, rather than excessive demands and interference, it is believed that know how to use the guest. Awesome Marget.
Never underestimate how charming and manipulative narcissists can be when they want to.
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Wait, so she's back in Korea? Or at least was? Or is it an old pic?https://www.airbnb.co.uk/rooms/12988992
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The kraken is slowly awakening. Prepare for some rambling to come.
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>>274005>even make an idiot of myself for her
you did that all by yourself
Yeah Margaret, my mother used to help me do my hair and nails too. That's pretty normal mother daughter behavior, not something she should worship and pay you for.
And the thing is, yes, Margaret obviously took over Venus' social media but in doing so she made Venus look like a mean spoiled brat when really it was Margaret behaving that way.
Venus' fans don't like her because of you Margaret.
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>>273900>Venus Angelic's boyfriend is a pedo>marries an adult
What is logic?
As in, her fans don't 'like' her 'because' of Margaret. Meaning Margaret thinks everyone who likes Venus likes her because margaret did her hair and posted on Venus' Instagram etc.
But if anything Margaret just made Venus look like a brat.
Margaret keeps talking about all the hard work she did to make Venus famous as if Venus would have been nothing without her, but now Venus is free she's 100% more likeable
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Looks like Venus has made a whole persona for parodying her old videos. I can appreciate that she has a sense of humor. Wonder if Margs will take it as evil cyberbullying call outs?
Life is Strange player detected <3
Sage for OT
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More likely South Park.
I am enjoying this satirical Venus.
Maggots attempts at humour remind me of that one Cards Against Humanity player we all know who sit and piss themselves at the card they played and you're awaiting the hysterics and it turns out to be the same shite humour they always use that only they 'get'.
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Well one thing is to travel around the world with just one suitcase, eating frugal and sleeping in bunkbeds because budgeting, but actually having a fun, exciting experience, nothing degrading at all imo.
Other thing is… being Margo kek
>mfw this showed up when searching travel pics for my post
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this person repeats margo right down to the plans and delusions, just more politely than margo is known to.
>>274204>She was her mom AND her manager! That's a job!!!
No, it fucking isn't. Maggot took the majority of Venus' money and did fuck all to deserve any of it. Venus did all the filming and editing on her videos. We can see after she escaped the Maggot, her editing style is still the same. What, did Maggot magically edit and film those videos too? All she ever did was act like a madam and treat Venus like a prostitute. What she did to her was similar to what human traffickers do (ex. Isolate, constantly move around, deny relationships with other people, etc.)
>you don't leave home 6 years after that happened, right?
It's dangerous as fuck for 13 year olds to run away from home when they have nowhere to go and no one to turn to. Who in their right mind would encourage this???
>Her mom already paid her university in Korea
Language schools are far
from being universities and again, that was Venus'
>First TALK with your family so they know your plans
So she could get chained to a pole while Maggot is out so she can't escape or killed? You don't fucking MAKE DEALS WITH PSYCHOPATHS.
Jesus CHRIST, this bitch is dumb. She reeks of gomi.
yup, that's why I found it hilarious. If only the random banner were that one when I took the screenshot, it would be even more funnier >>274204
how come that mimiimori can't realize how shitty margo's videos are
no one would hire her as manager, not even for free
>she realized margo paid her university
venus was the one paying everything ffs
>don't cuss her mom! moms are sacred!!!1!
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So this is the mimimori account that's pulling for mags. Hello, sock.
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Please no. I've always found alt youtube personalities/characters to be so cringeworthy. All they ever amount to is the character being 'lol so randumb' with weird voices/mannerisms. I was hoping she'd ditch it after this, damn. And is this really parodying her old videos? I feel like you guys are giving her too much credit.
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More from mimiimori.
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Theory: Margo's trying to look like a nice old lady who is being harassed online by terrible children, when all she wants is a sincere resolution with her daughter. This is why the change of look, the avatar change, and the (so far) well-behaved posting. Maybe she's still in the US where she considers herself to be preparing the lawsuit of the century. Such a nice, harmless old day… such terrible trolls sent by her daughter.
>>274246>like this venoos
Better than looking at Margo's face tho but you're probably right.>>274291
If she's being "harassed" idk why she doesn't just turn off the computer for awhile and look for a job. Margo…you should show those 12 year olds something and really get on their level.
The top actually looks pretty damn cute.
And yeah she's studying currently so that's fantastic news, I wonder if she's trying to improve her Japanese.
She seems so excited I am really happy for her.
I'm assuming she's taking Japanese to enter into university at some point or maybe some kind of Japanese equivalent to the GED?
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I'm so happy
3 videos per week as well to make Maggot mad
that thumbnail isnt the one showing for me in my sub box
I was never a big Venus fan but hell, I really am rooting for her. She looks so happy in this.
Margo is gonna shit herself too - bonus.
I'm so fucking glad she's studying. Hopefully its something somewhat practical, so she can fall back on it later in life.
She looks so happy and excited.
Suck it Margendo.
Yikes! I hope that thumbnail is for comical effect.
But yes! Hearing about her continuing studies is such a relief. It's good to know she has goals outside of Youtube and understands the importance of an education, even if it's just language study or media-related. At least she still wants to better herself and stay busy.
Her shirt design, considering her average fan demographic, is also pretty cute.
Wow, so Margo claimed 20 videos.
And now Venus' channel is protected; great news.
Shit, margendo ended up claiming. 20 videos, no wonder it took them so long to get her channel back. I'm very happy for V, she seems more lively than ever before!
I wouldn't even mind buying some of her merch when it comes out if it means it'll help with her studies.
I still think it's creepy how she does try to look somewhat Asian sometimes. Don't say she doesn't because she does and other weebs do. It's weird. Also weird how Japanese try looking white too tho tbh.
But thank fuck at least she's going back to damn school and educating herself. Thank fucking GOD.
Still think her videos are overrated tho and Venus herself
Probably. Still it's somewhat of an achievement? But how many weebs and people are in Japan studying the damn language. Its nothing new. But at least Venus is… getting out there? >>274338
Yeah but anon she could just as well end up as a waitress though? I know people keep saying she'll go on to becoming a tv star and shit. But are the Japanese interested? Look at Dakota.
She's so cute in this video!
And I'll definitely buy some merchandise from her. Not a very big fan of most of her old content, but I want to support Venus and piss off Margo.>>274336
More effort than most weebs make. Right now without proper language skills, a degree or any experience in the real job world she wouldn't have a chance for any okay kind of job anyway. Manaki seems to be doing fine with his job, so I think for now it's easier for her to conentrate on her Japanese skills and make profit again from her YT-videos. >>274344
That's what I'm tinking, once she has her language skills and a degree/BA/similar kind of thing she could consider doing translations.
Yeah but some weebs have made an effort to learn the language? Lesser known ones. The popular ones just seem to prostitute and fuck around. Dakota is probably the only kawaii weed so fair with good language skills but she's been living there longer due to working and obviously having put in effort learning the language because she works there.
Venus should go in for translating tbh since she's decent at it.
But I still think Venus needs to work on her video content. I fear she will end up in the Jvlogger path and it'll be the same old shit we've seen the rest of the Jvloggers do. She'll gang up with Sharla, Taylor ect and we get the story. Very kawaii, very cute. Yes.
Either way only time will tell. Let's just be glad she's going back into education.
Yeah thinking back to every jvlogger I know I can only think of two who are comfortable in their Japanese, Dakota and Sharla. Even the guys aren't good at it.
Depending on how good she gets with her Japanese she could go the Kooter route. Not modeling but being on shows as the 'foreign talent' and adding the westerner perspective. She's cute enough to easily get on it I think.
If she wants to stay out of the limelight it might be a bit difficult for her and take some time. Most companies won't hire a foreigner without a degree, so she'd have to first finish whatever she is studying and then either pay up the ass for a private University degree (I'm assuming an American uni has a campus somewhere near Tokyo with degrees in English) or she will have to do a degree in Japanese which would be quite difficult.
Depends who picks up on her anon. I wouldn't say Venus is model savvy… maybe for cutesy brands? But that's it. She has enough subs but again the Japanese never paid much attention to her back in her dolly era. They focused on Dakota instead. I do think Venus would have done well in the idol route and could have made it in Japan back then.
To be honest… I kind of hope Venus makes some friends. Im not keen on her or her mother, dunno just not a fan. I don't wish the worst on her though. But I hope Venus makes a few pals there in Japan apart from Manaki. Sometimes from the videos I've seen of Venus she seems… a little lonely? She comes across nice too which is a shame. She deserves to have a best friend or a couple of friends while she's getting back on track. I hope she picks them wisely and they're not leeching off her for views and shit.
Venus drops way too much new videos and photos that maggot has like no time to make huge ramblings about something. She sees that her plan failed and venus is doing great in so many ways - she is mad and salty to the max.>>274321
I really loved the location in this video! And the T-shirt design looks so much better than expected and her teen weep fans will love it.
Typical with Margo's pattern. In fact, it's pretty much her MO.
Venus gains a small victory, Margo stays quiet plotting, then comes goes full retard. She'll come back to a rant proceeded with an attempt to harass her daughter. Remember when Margo went quiet with her roaming hobo train hopping until she finally admitted that she was looking for Manaki's parents? She'll do something shocking for sure.
Sorry for replying to old posts. I just want to comment on this "looking Japanese" thing. Sometimes its simply a matter of assimilation with the country you live in. If I moved to Asia, or wherever really, I would do my best to fit in. Learn the language, learn what the manners/customs are, understand my place. Just bc I'm American I can't go around acting or speaking the same as I do in America while living in Japan.
The same happenes to people who move to America, they get accused of trying to be American by their native country. But, honestly, I would expect you to speak English, and know what the manners/customs are, if you want to live here.
Anyway, very happy for Venus, makes me happy to see good hearted people win against evil.
If Venus already fixed that with YouTube then it is clearly useless. In order to sue someone you need an actual, realistic and plaussible cause, and the issue with YT is already settled.
Margo definetely loves wasting money for nothing.
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I dunno if someone already noticed but Margendo is reconstructing her website, again. http://www.margaretpalermo.com/
Or is this another site not the venusangelic one
It's her own website, not the venusangelic one. She's had it from a long time I remember.
U guys srsly don't remember she had this same website but with a creepy layout displaying a video of a woman surrounded by candles? Now appears under construction.
Well, margaretpalermo.com displayed, until very recently, a cringe-worthy video of a woman who I HIGHLY suspect was Margo, moving weirdly in a dark room sightly lighted by candles. Looked like a ritual. So today I decided to check it up again and found that under construction thing.
Oh Margo, what are you up to
oh for fuck sake marge
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I had to look up ASMR on urban dictionary. I didn't get any tingly sensations but I had a good chuckle watching Margo put her leg behind her neck.
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where can i find this video?
I think she's back in SK.
According to the chronology of her IG it was:
1) student hostel/broom closet sized room in Seoul for quite awhile, where she got a bunch of cheap crap & set up her VA.com online shop and shot that awful "Peenk Poooding hair dye" YT video, then
2)unknown place in Japan where she lurked outside V & M's apartment and called the "black-suited men" to investigate, and posted & deleted some rant asking Manaki what happened to their car. I think she was kicked out of Japan after this. Then it was
3) Haneda airport → Vancouver airport (aquarium) and the "artist lady friend" Airbnb, saying YT told her she needed to do something in the US. then Venus's channel came back, and boom:
4) the Christian Airbnb in Seoul, where she shot the 'poop' video and posted a selfie with a new haircut (done after the video.)
Now? Who knows
Marshit wants to look christian enough to be worth of her family's help or help from very catholic american people who don't know who she is.
"Help me, gimme moneyy. My dowter Veenoos disowned mee. She has aspergers and manipoolated me and cyberboolies me in the internet with her troll army. Have pity of me, nourish me, american people."
Her hair is such a lovely plum colour in the light, I'm super envious. Mainly because my hair is shitty, but yep. I actually adore her new hair, has she had it long?
Margendo claimed 20 fucking videos? Poor fucking Venus. That is so brutal.
Venus isn't the stupid ome, Margo is. The sad thing is that Venus clearly wanted to study and was delayed for so long (no hs edu) by margo.)
People who are saying that is' 'weeb' to learn Japanese obviously don't understand that Venus has married a Japanese Man and that, in order to take affordable higher-education classe, she needs to know Japanese.
Or better: www.venus_angelic.com
Like her ig username.
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>>274353>She has enough subs but again the Japanese never paid much attention to her back in her dolly era.
They actually did but not female ones.
But why posting it in her instagram then?
IMO she wants to reach her family. I know that they're not buying it, but in Marshit's NPD delusionary mind there's a "big probability" that they will forgive her and give her pocket money and reject that "ungrateful fruit of hers and her unfidel ex-boss'" marriage.
Interesting statistics. What year is this from?
ew @ all the middle-aged Japanese men who followed her. Wonder if marge specifically targeted that demographic with the 'sexxy' IG pics she posted?
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Thanks, anon. Speaking of Tumblr, does anyone recall her ranting about being investigated by UK child protective svcs and that being the reason she ran from the UK? This commenter on her IG claims to have screenshots of it.
Seems like the best thing for venus do is to ignore Margo since she craves attention and recognition. Venus' videos talking about the situation only seem to provoke Margo and feed her delusions. I hope she's gone to the police at some point and is documenting all of Margo's behavior.
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It would be funny if someone hacks www.margaretpalermo.com and posts all the shit she have done/writen in it (copyscreens, videos, posts) and that Marshit thought were forever deleted from the internet. Add the sarcastic title "Let Margaret alooone!!! She's done nothing wrong…" or "We love your picture Margaret" or even "look at the flowers…" lol
Venus did say in one of her videos soon after she left Margo, that she would scream as loudly as possible when Margo was hitting her in hopes that someone would hear.
Shit, man… That poor kid.
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>>274564>ew @ all the middle-aged Japanese men who followed her.
YouTube statistics aren't exactly accurate. A lot of kids lie about their age just to watch restricted videos. I know I did.
You're all so triggered
by me using the word 'just'. Given that she is married to a national and living in Japan full-time, studying Japanese is the minimum to expect. Yes I know some weebs don't bother but idgaf about them.
Studying anything is good for her - of course it is. But stop spinning fantasies about how it will lead to all these amazing jobs and uni degrees any minute. Venus' education is a mess right now, and that takes years to sort out - and patience.
Never heard of a glitch that gets your youtube account copyright terminated right after it gets put back up.
I wonder if the riverbeast found the crooked american lawyer she needed to pitch a fit to youtube.
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It's not really Fullscreen's department, but that said whatever percentage of Venus' revenue they're taking for their services is too much.
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ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME YOUTUBE
I KNOW THEY WEREN'T IN CONTROL THE FIRST TIME AS THEY HAD TO OBEY THE DMCA LEGISLATION BUT THIS IS FUCKING RIDICULOUS
So what was this bs where Venus says YT told her her channel was safe no matter what? She must feel pretty burned this minute.
I stick to my guess that Maggot is still in the US and is scheming to look like a nice old lady.>>274291
It would be easier, yes, but she would have to clean this mess up once again before abandoning the current channel and all those old videos with decent revenue. Like others and >>274683
say, YouTube wouldn't stand for it right now.
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I'll repost the rules again so we have them here in this thread. Starting a new account is considered evading your ban.
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shits going down
3000$ A MONTH??
I can't even
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>>274691>$3000 a month
I want to get off Margendo's wild ride
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A least she's still trying
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nope, because of rules in pic related. also blackmail it seems.
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She updated her comment, and correct me if I'm wrong, but is this the first time Venus has verbally struck back at Maggot?
I'm really loving this new stronk tonk Venus. I want to see Maggot go DOWN.
It's the end of a 3 day weekend here; they may not have set her channel to avoid auto takedown before everyone left work last week (most people take 4 days off, so people have ben out of the office since thursday or friday). Margo can't have gotten anywhere legally in the last several days because the courts are closed; my only guess is that she keep sending notices, and it'll get fixed tomorrow morning.
The blatant blackmail is gonna be Mag's undoing, though: that crazy botch signed her own prison sentence. She's in the US, suing someone, and blackmailing them??? MARGO YOU ARE SO DUMB.
Oh Venus, baby. Your mom does not have an IQ of 150. It's just another one of her many, many lies.
But FUCK YEAH for righteous anger Venus! Mags is gonna get her ass handed to her in court for this.
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Another edit ~
Legally this shouldn't be happening, but this is the fruits that are finally being borne as a result of the shitshow that is the DMCA legislation and procedure being put into action.
I think now Venus really is fully within her rights to sue. This is extortion.
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Aunt Zsu steps in (responding to someone who says Margo needs a mental health intervention)
I remember Mags once bragged about being in MENSA on twitter.
Mags probably didnt let Venus forget about it.
You scored better than me in language school? Well I have a 152 IQ.
Not her but you may well be surprised. Not all people who have a high IQ are good people Anon, although it's easy to assume that high intelligence more often equates to goodness.
It may well be that Maggot does indeed have a high level of technical IQ that allows for mathematical problem solving, but that doesn't make up for her rotten character and garbage social skills.
I'm assuming maybe Maggot has some kind of Mensa certification which Venus has seen, which is probably why she mentions it with any sense of certainty.
Even so, being in Mensa really isn't that big of a deal, I know plenty of people who're in it and ones carved up her face with needles from mental illness, another has a shopping addiction and is and hoards cats, and another is still living with and financially supporting her 32 year old KV son who can't move out because he spends all his money on vidya and has a Steam library of 3,607 games. Yeah, you heard that number right. Mensa ain't shit.
Speaking of this, if Margo is in California: we have the 5150 hold here. A legally mandatory minimum 72 hour mental health hold for observation if you are a danger to yourself of others. And if you are legit nuts, you don't get out until they say you do. If we can figure out where she's staying, I'll gladly report a weird Hungarian woman making threats to people on the street.
It's the help you need, Margo. We're just doing what's right.
Does Venus typically refer to Manaki as her boyfriend?
I'm wondering if it was just a slip-up. Lots of women accidentally refer to their husband as their boyfriend for a while after getting married.
the person who runs/ran https://www.instagram.com/stopmargaretp/
has a lot in their arsenal. plus the threads here are full of them. I doubt they would help in an actual court though.
But don't sob stories help with legal cases?
I don't know where would the trial take place, but I bet it can help lawyers strenghthen their cases.
Yes for sure! What Venus has in her possession will be legit. Even so, screenshots are not as good as actual data, and Margaret has a habit of deleting.
I'm talking about the anon who thinks that screenshots we've collected here will be admissible in court.
Aren't the Japanese police kinda lax on anything of this nature involving foreigners like Margo, or however Venus would be perceived for that matter? Not to mention the stupidly expensive cost of international lawsuits if Venus would try to get her demonmother on perfectly valid blackmail charges.
This whole thing seems so grim.
Japanese Police is useless in this case, they are hardly gonna do anything especially since Venus is a foreigner and Magoo is out of country anyway.
I think the best option is for Venus to contact FUPAforFreedom, tell them her story, other people, like her fans or lolcow anons can back her up with evidence and make the case go viral.
Magoo has like few crazy old hags from GOMI on her side and so many shit she posted (now deleted but screenshoted by anons) show how crazy she is.
Instead of taking pictures of flowers, of throwing bible verses at Margit and saying that he loves all his creatures?
No, he prefers cover his eyes to see nothing else than babies and flowers everywhere.
That's an hungarian thing, you cannot understand…
I was thinking about doing the same thing. Partially to piss Midge off and secondly because I really liked that shirt that she was wearing in that one video.>>274691
$3,000 a month?! That's fucking ridiculous
!!! Even more proof that she took the majority of Venus' money when she was her cash slave.>>274739
I'm so fucking fed up with her shit. I'm going to pretend to be Team Psycho Cunt on Instagram and YouTube to try and get into her private friends chat shit. I'll go NJM levels of batshit if I have to but nothing super obvious. Probably something stupid like those two Jasmine swamp hags that are already riding her dick. I want to fucking ruin Margaret.
Yes this is extortion and it is a crime. Venus could show these emails to the police and have the psychocunt from hell arrested. (Except she's gone underground prob. in SK like the criminally insane pos she is.)
Gahhh this is like watching a bunny get stomped on. A fucking criminal psychopath at work, in real time.
Not that she has told us; try DM on insta?
Margo definitely has the old one so no-one send her shit to there.
I'm not sure. It was writen in her youtube.
Hey guys, remember the VA logo 'invented' by Margaret? You find the same in that 4-years-old videohttps://vimeo.com/36771659
Hope that it helps to keep Marge occupied lol
In this case it stands for Fair Use Protection Account. It was created with H3H3 due to their own lawsuit. The laywers are actually Morrison and Lee. http://morrisonlee.com/
If you're not familiar with H3H3, they like to mention FUPAs all the time in their reaction videos, so it's not surprising they went with that acronym.
She doesn't sound like she'll give up. Even if she had to take a year off, I think she would still be back based on how much it seems to mean to her. But l do fear it will be a while this time. It has to go
to court, to be thrown out of court. With fresh videos reported Margo has many weeks on her side before she even needs to sue (the last termination was around 8 weeks long).
you mean rivers are too
good for her anon. but I understand. we are all blinded by rage here right now.
So, why don't we ask Venus to sue her mother for child abuse since Marshit was investigated in UK by child protective services.
That's more administrative work for Margaret and if she get researched by interpol that would be nice.
Let's give Venus ideas to get back her channel and her dignity.
He lost his dick in her >>274815
Margo's probably meeting the basic grounds for the DCMA claims (on paper anyway). When you notify under DCMA you leave yourself open to legal action so no way are minions doing this with (or for) her. What she's doing is saying it's her
content, and that's enough for Youtube to follow procedures.
But the sad part is that someone at Youtube told Venus her channel was protected. That's so shitty.
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the children are going nuts on margo's insta. my current fave:
It wouldn't do much, unless we really need a follow up to her chart topping hit.>>274834
This is a better idea, if a Swiss anon could find the proper info. I feel like they'd take complaints more seriously from an actual citizen.
like here maybe: http://www.ausgleichskasse.ch/portal/index.asp
it will take some research and we need either a swiss anon or someone familiar with the country. a german-speaker perhaps.
That's because YouTube is fucking bullshit and no real person will ever look at these claims.
Yes, DMCA is involved, yes, they need to follow claims. But as we can all see, you can make some bullshit claim, and can fuck up channels for months, and that's twice in a row now. This is some big stuff, Venus and the network are losing tons of money here, this isn't something that should happen without real proof.
Imagine if someone accused you of theft, and then the police arrested you for thirty days - you are not able to contact anyone, there's nothing you can do anyomore (srsly, YouTube is very hard to contact and you cannot do anything with or on your channel), and Police patiently waits until your accuser maybe provides some actual proof instead of investigating themselves. And after thirty days they let you off, but not without a ick in the ass and a warning even when you're innocent
. And then the next day, the same person could do all the same things again.
YouTube is a bullshit platform, and not only Venus' dilemma has shown this. Plenty of smaller and bigger YouTubers have had similar problems, countless times. Even bigger channels like Channel Awesome or IHE got (false) strikes, and were fucked over multiple times despite not doing anything wrong. Only difference is that huge channels like CA or IHE who was supported by big YouTubers mysteriously
get their claims resolved a lot faster (withing a few days) after they called out TouTube to their fans.
Linking both their videos because I think they're worth a watch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH-8PqS84qA
TL;DR YouTube is a money-grabbing whore who doesn't give two fucks about their user, can't wait until one days there's a good platform to replace them.
That really gives me the feels the way Margo is mocking her daughter here. And that Venus likely does not even have this info about him until Margo posts it her.
Anyway, now we need a Swiss anon, or for someone to find an anonymous tipline or form to submit this. We have these in Aus, do they have them in Switzerland?
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Sneaky cunt is selectively deleting IG comments as we speak, from whatever rock she's crawled under. Last one in attached pic is deleted:
Margaret said once Venus' father family name: Neuenschwander
She posted his place too: Bözberg
Could it be that his first name is Hans? http://tel.search.ch/boezberg/husmattstrasse-19/hans-neuenschwander.fr.html
Yes probably but he shouldn't be harassed. Whatever is between him and Venus stays between them.
It's the authority that is paying Margo Swissbux that is more interesting.
Yeah I've seen it and also another page on that site about how you have to contact either your employer, or the specific area authority that pays it out to you (it seems it can vary who pays it out). The info is too general at the mo' for me to consider acting.
I'm only willing to do it if there's a truly legit anon pathway to do it, like in Aus where we have https://www.ato.gov.au/General/Gen/Report-a-concern/
and also https://www.centrelink.gov.au/wps/portal/clk_common/TORS#stay
If googling from afar is the only tool we have, I say let it go for now.
Facetuned to the gods yet still ugly as ever. Hint: it comes from your soul, Margo.
Looks like the same shitty Korean dorm place she has already left. I thinking she's been fucking around with her insta posting since Korea. I wonder now if she even went back to Japan at all but instead went to this place.
The 'new channel' thing I have a touch of patience for bc not everyone understands the YT rules on this.
But the 'Hey guys, I think it's a conspiracy' is just bullshit. Say it in week one or two, sure. Don't say it months later when it is obvious to anyone who takes the time to read the threads that what we see is a parent abusing their (now adult) child.
Why did she edit that post only to add text in favor of her mom? "YES MOM @margaretpalermo YOU HAVE 152IQ BUT THAT DOESNT JUSTIFY YOUR ACTIONS"
That's really weird.
What are you gonna do?
"Excuse me, this crazy lady said some insane shit on the internet. Can you detain her pls?"
half of the state will be detained then, lol.
why do people persist in thinking crazy = locked up?
no don't do that!
you can't do shit like that based on vague info.
and you will freak venus out - it's not to do with her.
It's not in favour of Margo? It's Venus insulting her, even if lightly.
Margo just probably bragged about how smart she was all the time. Venus probably does think Margo is quite smart after hearing about it for a lifetime.
yes! I thought Manaki had a youtube channel as well, but with nothing in it.
Maybe Venus could upload some stuff there. It's not her channel, so it's not evading the ban. And Manaki can be in the vids if it's necessary.
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just a cry for attention? the comments are the craziest I've ever seen on Margo's insta. everyone's telling her to die so it's hard to stand out.
maybe because venus mentioned the word 'suicide' in her instagram post. she said "…no one in my boyfriends family can hand you out that sum monthly unless this is a new form of suicide."
i don't really understand what she means but she's clearly not gonna off herself, it's probably a figure of speech that's a little lost in translation.
No-one really knows but here's some ideas:
She maybe gets 200CH Swissbux per month for having Venus. Maybe she sold some stuff - extra phone, camera, imac? A couple of things she sold of Venus' through the webstore. Some Korean tat sold through the webstore. A trickle of Youtube money from her own channel.
Like all good thieves she will have stored things and money away in various places, invested for later.
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Mira showing support(?)
I'm hoping a legal case is made, Margo milk may have been delicious but now it's really expiring
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yeah, most likely she took one of those "what's your IQ" quizzes
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Haha, zsarolás means "blackmail" in Hungarian.
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Holy shit, I woke up to Venus' insta post so I instantly came here, of course. What an evil, insane woman Maggot is. I think Venus didn't fully see the evil in her before, but I'm sure she does now. The only solace I've got is knowing there's no way maggles can win, no matter how long she stalls. Venus and Manaki will be just fine, but Mag's got nothing in a court of law.
Oh, the irony of it all… This is everything that Midge did. Leeching off benefits, spending money on dumb shit, harassing people, etc.
Margo definetly needs her own ED page since she's the prime lolcow here, but at this point she's a horror cow.
Marge has a shitty karma…
And the one eyed girl is Kelsey Ellison not Becki Cruel
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FUCK MAGGOT calm your old lady tits for real now this just so fucked up.
I got so stressed when I saw the 200+ comments on her most recent Insta post.
This is just so annoying jesus christ and I was looking forward for venus's videos this week since she looked so happy about everything.
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I'm just saying, karma is BS and most people only know that half of it. People like to think it's good because it says that bad people will be punished, but it also says that if people have a shitty life they must have been a terrible person in their past life. This fuels the caste system and a lot of victim blaming in India.
are you fucking retarded?
this will only give her material to claim harassment from venus' fans
this site is full of 13 yr olds smh
This person is right.
That's not going to help Venus and it could blow in her face, so calm the fuck down.
I don't agree. I mean, all that social media is placed public by Margo. Every single person on the internet that puts their social networks publicly must be aware that harassment can occur, because it's an open window to your life and people can do shit. No one is forcing her to have such a public life. Whatever other people do it's obvious that are not sent by Venus, she has never said "go harass/hack my mother". So…
I mean I get what u guys are saying but claiming harassment out of those reasons it's useless.
Yes, we have already seen it but I like her new nickname
Considering the circumstances she may be able to work out a deal with fullscreen through this method? She makes them money so I don't see why they would turn her away.>>275085
Nah it's allowed because she is only banned from owning an account, she can appear in videos all she wants. If manaki is the uploader/owner of the account, venus can still make videos for it provided she is not the owner of the channel. This is also how keemstar evades his bans, his "company" uploads his videos for him.
I see where you're coming from but again, because this is all behind the scenes, it's so hard to know what's going on. But fullscreen can also only do so much. It's up to venus to provide evidence to youtube to dispute the copyright claims, but if margo goes through with the claim then fullscreen will most likely represent her in court (or try to settle it outside of court, which might happen now that margo has initiated all this court shit, they might counter sue).
I think because you think they aren't acting immediately that they aren't doing anything, infact they're more likely building ammunition to use to build a stronger case so margo fucks off for good and might even be able to sue her for loss of profits.
We still don't know that for sure. All we know for sure is that again she reported Venus' videos and that's it. All that rambling about suing and court and bla bla can be just bullshit because, again, she has no way to afford a lawyer in case that Venus countersues.>>275096
Yeah, it makes sense. I do believe they should be quicker on that, though
Lawfag reporting in! Nothing impressive, I know nothing of copyright law, but if you anons could answer some questions maybe I can pull something up. What district would Margo have filed her lawlsuit? If I know the district name I can look some shit up via public records and see what Margo filed. >>275091>>275092
Not true. Any attorney would tell you that there's nothing to do until an initial complaint is filed. It's a waiting game for defense. Depending on statutes, it's 30 to 90 days for a response to be issued and even longer for enough information to be gathered to file a Motion to Dismiss. If Venus has representation then Motion to Dismiss would be the next step after initial complaints, responses and replies. After a Motion to Dismiss is competently filed, it's in Margo's ballpark and without representation she'll surely fuck up and it'll easily get dismissed. Unfortunately, this process takes a few months if you're lucky and if Venus is able to retain counsel. Remember Margo could potentially lawyer up. Doubtful she has the money, but some down on his luck attorney could take the case if Margo pays month fees which could be as low as 250 per month. She spends more at Starbucks. Venus really isn't big enough, nor is the case valid, but I've seen worse cases pursued. Not many…
Well, there's no way we can be sure if it was true or lies, but she flew to Vancouver supposedly because YouTube told her she had to be in North America to start he lawsuit. >>275097
Venus said herself in her most recent video that YouTube had extended the protection they offer to other big YouTubers to her, so that DMCA takedown claims won't bring their entire account down anymore while they are being processed. That changes when the complainant takes out a lawsuit though, the entire account has to stay down until the case is resolved. It doesn't cost very much to file the complaint and it will take months and months more for it to resolve itself, so she'll do the damage she wants even if she represents herself and doesn't hire a lawyer.
I think this is a good question…If she's suing Venus wouldn't it be dismissed (forum non conveniens)?
If its YouTube, is there a choice of forum clause in the adhesion contact that content generators agree to? Where is Google/YouTube/alphabet incorporated?
Margo has no domicile so I guess she works be treated as an alien for jurisdiction purposes
Forum non conveniens…only time I've seen this in the area of law my boss specializes is when cases are automatically bumped into a lower court to avoid overflow into the higher courts. If this applies to Venus's case then she'll have to wait even longer to get the whole ordeal resolved.
Thing is Margo has enough cause to file a lawsuit. I'm itching to read that initial complaint!
Margo is the kind of person who sits on her ass all day, having an empty resumes for years and still expect a very upper-middle class (for an european household) life. That's not how it works but I'm pretty sure she's convinced she deserves this.
3000€ a month is what scientists, pharmacists or senior web developpers earns.
However I think it's a good thing Margo is now threatening Venus for money which means her account is probably drying up very fast. She sees the end coming and is panicking like a trapped vermine.
I'm still worried for poor Peanuts because Margaret is the kind of horrible insect that would drag her down, if she gets in troubles like for taxes evasion. She'd throw Venus under the bus without a second thought.
just explained it very clearly.>Venus said herself in her most recent video that YouTube had extended the protection they offer to other big YouTubers to her, so that DMCA takedown claims won't bring their entire account down anymore while they are being processed. That changes when the complainant takes out a lawsuit though, the entire account has to stay down until the case is resolved. It doesn't cost very much to file the complaint and it will take months and months more for it to resolve itself, so she'll do the damage she wants even if she represents herself and doesn't hire a lawyer.
Margo's lawlsuit has complicated things in simplespeak.
Protected from automatic youtube take downs, doesn't protect her from lawsuits filed with the court. Margo filed and now, youtube HAS to take it down. Remember anyone can file copyright complaints, but not many people are going to file official written complaints and pay the 300 filing fee.
God damn it, just checked a data base for court docs using Margo's name and found nothing. Got some stuff from Ohio, but seems like it's a different Margo.
but how does she has the damn money for everything? I mean she needs a lawyer for this? She can't do it for herself?
This is such a fuckery
US laws allow you to represent yourself. Margo, if going it pro se, probably got a skeleton copyright complaint and edited the information to suit her situation. It's probably full of errors and sloppy citation, but enough to file with the court to pull Venus's videos. When Venus's issues her response, she will have around 30 days. Even if Venus's response points out errors to Margo's initial complaint, she can draft up and file an amended complaint. The whole process is tedious and I'm not sure how much Margo knows, but she can definitely do it by herself. A few mistakes can be grounds for dismissal, but Venus needs to lawyer up. If neither of them have counsel or representation the Judge would push for an arbitration.
I think there's a fucking plethora of circumstances involving this "case" and the proceedings depend on a lot of shit. If anyone can find where she filed (even if it's just the state) I can do some hunting and have actual informative milk.
She can't because she already put out something like 30 claims which is why her channel was shut down for so long, she can never claim them again.
She probably tried to make a deal with venus to settle out of court immediately and venus isn't going to agree to those terms.
DMCA has to be filed by a person, not a youtube account. She would have to give all her personal details so she can't reuse them. She can't sockpuppet.
It is true there is a special system for super popular youtubers where their channel is not taken down automatically by false copyright claims, otherwise channels like nostalgia critic and the like would never be up. Venus is part of that, I think that IHE guy also got access to this after the same thing happened to him and they deleted him 1 time.
Margo is definitely filing a lawsuit, anon. Why else do you think she went all the way to the US?
Nope. Pretty much everything is filed electronically and you only need to select that you're filing it pro se, at least in my state. We had a few districts that required fax filing (embarrassing I know) a few years ago, but currently everything is filed online and fees are paid via credit/debit cards. My best guess for Margo deciding she needed to go to the US is that she's an idiot and needed additional guidance in person or that the court advised she come in person because she is not a US citizen. She'd have to show proper documentation and depending on the district, needs certain paperwork to file suit. Thinking a bit harder on this, I bet Margo needed notarized documents which require a certified notary and witness in the US to stamp and sign. This would be true if Margo attached an affidavit to her complaint. >>275160
I'll work on individual states when I get to work on Thursday if no new info comes up. I did a "search all" and only found two court cases under Margaret Palermo. An Ohio civil suit that got dismissed for non-appearance and listed five billion plaintiffs and a bankruptcy in Florida. I might just be looking too broadly. I'll read up more on filing civil copyright suits and see if I can track down viable search routes to get those docs. I probably won't post them here since I'm using my boss's resources to navigate around, but it's all public record and I'll drop the case number. Anons will be able to find the case docket in 0-10 seconds.
If it is, it'll be impossible for me to track. You file under your legal name sometimes citing aliases, so if it's just her legal name and we have no idea what it is then, it's a needle in a hay stack. I could narrow it down if I had the district and use filing dates to filter results, but I'd be SOL.
Does Venus go by Venus Palermo or …what's her new surname?
Hmmmm. Well from reading whatever is available via google, looks like Margo would have filed in District Court. I did a search of all District Courts, but didn't turn anything up.
Here is the link to the skeleton form Margo probably downloaded from US Courts website. It's really as easy as this to file junk lawsuits. http://www.uscourts.gov/forms/pro-se-forms/complaint-civil-case
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What's wrong with odaka?
Also, someone posted this on kiwi.
What grounds does Margo even have to sue Venus? Does she have any solid proof that she was the one behind the entire channel, shooting videos and editing videos? Was there a contract drawn up between her and Venus stating that any money made off the channel would be split any kind of way?
Her demanding $3000 a month simply because her legal age daughter moved out so she can't mooch off her anymore isn't a good enough reason. Would that even hold up in court?
I think if Venus wanted to or had to she could counter sue for defamation of character, stalking/harassment and damages caused by Margo filing false copyright claims and have her own mother pay her back for money lost while her channel was down and for emotional damage caused by this whole mess.
Mira logic:>block and ignore
Venus already did that some months ago Mira. You forgot the part where Margo came to the house more than once. But hey, just "block and ignore". Sage bc late.
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Samefagging but it's not currently on Papa Ferenc's IG. I thought it was this picture but now there are no names under Margo's wedding picture.
Hey that's right, she did go to Japan. Thanks for reminding me; I was beginning to question everything.
It was not Montreal confirmed but rather Vancouver. When you look at the map you'll see why: it's the cheapest place for her to land in North America. There has been speculation about various places she might go but for money reasons we will assume WA or CA right now as they're close.
Did you ever watch Venus' 'how I ran away from home vid'? She is naive about a lot of things. Like she thought Margo hitting her was normal until other people explained that it's not. There's a lot for Venus to learn in life but don't blame her; it's not her fault she is the way she is. It's 100% Margo's abuse.
Mirror of the vid if you haven't seen it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-vuD4I1vHw
I Google'd the name Okada.
Okada Name Meaning Japanese: ‘rice paddy on the hill’; variously written. This is a common place name throughout Japan, but the surname is mostly found in western Japan.
sage because dumb
It's probably a combination of that and she has the mentality of, "I DESERVE THIS!!! If I can't have Venus money, then no one can! She's ungrateful for all I've done for her!" when we all know all she did was fucking tarnish her own daughter's image, chances at better opportunities and the like. Imagine how much further her weeaboo kawaii career could have gotten her if it weren't for Maggot meddling so much and making everyone hate her?>>275213
This wouldn't surprise me at all. It really does sound like the most logical explanation aside from Magrot always being full of shit.
(I did not realize there were so many typos; sorry about that.)
OP, and yeah I'm not sure. I go there for the same reason you do, or I've been there to watch people's indie films.>>275078
I didn't even think of this. Momentarily forgot all about Fullscreen.>>275079
My only qualm with this is that Margo might try to spin this as Manali stealing her intellectual property or something and spam report his channel too.
Sure she'll tell judges bs like ~taking that pic that went viral~
Hope Venus and her lawyer turn the tables and say V was forced to perform those creepy, borderline fetish videos such as pantyhose or mukbang ones and Margo is indeed the one behind them, so they can sue the bitch for child abuse.
Legal anon: What about maggot demanding $3000/month or she'll sue? That's extortion and witness tampering, right? Both are felonies here in the US. I know the maggot isn't a US citizen but she's filing her bs case in the US. Can she be arrested and prosecuted for this?
I know no one knows where she is right now but she had to leave contact information when she filed the complaint. It seems like a warrant for her arrest could be issued to her via email/whatever?
Venus Isabelle Okada (nee Palermo*)
Marge's Hungarian name: Margaret Koncz or Margit Koncz, as per >>275209
Venus' dads surname/locale: Neuenschwander of Bözberg, Switzerland as per >>242365
*was Palermo a legal name change - we don't know.
Not lawfag but could Venus and lawyers play Margo's game as in "Yes, that's Margo's work BUT the woman exploited her underage daughter isolating her from society, forcing her to perform degrading, unhealthy activities. recorded and broadcasted them for her financial gain without giving V her share or earnings" or something like that?
I would do that without a second thought but idk Venus, maybe deep inside she still loves her mother that much
She might still respect
her mother, as in want her to go away and get on with her own life. Venus also seems to have only an inkling that what she experienced with her mother was not normal.
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Looks like she's on her way back to Japan…
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she smooths the fuck out of their faces and still leaves the awful eyebags and the pimple above hey eyebrow…fuck
sage bc pissed
Can't tell you for sure without reading the email in which she tries to ransom off the channel, but chances are no. It all lies in Margo's intent and the language (god imagine a jury having to dissect that). Seems like Margo could easily pass off the 3k per month as conditions to relinquish her "rights" which would be Margo negotiating rather than extorting money from Venus.
Usually extortion is more high profile and has larger consequences to get a prosecutor to convict. Margo essentially is dancing around extortion, but as long as she claims copyright as hers and doesn't acknowledge that she knows the videos aren't it wouldn't be extortion. I work in civil law, but I took a lot of criminal law courses in college. For the most part, a lot of criminal prosecution lies in intent. Margo may have a get out of jail card in this arena because she's so fucking nuts. >>275239
I'll try these.
"#japanesegirl" lol it's a stewardess exactly said.
Margyoda is implying that that person is a random fangirl that ran towards her to get a photo with her. While in reality it's the opposite and the stewardess accepted to be photographed to be polite with her.
"Look, I have friends everywhere, Venoos! Everybody knows ma channel."
idk legal anon…"give me $3000/month or I sue" sounds like extortion to me, plus witness tampering since Venus is involved in civil litigation and maggot is the plaintiff.
I say this bc a batshit blogger I know of threatened her stepmother with releasing a sex tape her father secretly made of them if the stepmom went to court over the blogger stealing her SS# to open credit card accounts. Stepmom called the police and batshit blogger was charged with felony extortion and felony witness tampering (in Orlando, FL.) She goes to trial in July.
Venus's situation sounds pretty identical to that case, to me.
Eating popcorn, reading her ig comments.
I love watching verbal WWE in the internets…
It would probably be heavily complicated by the international aspect of this. Margo as a citizen of Crazymomestonia or wherever the fuck.
The case you describe sounds really interesting though.
I'm worried, too. V is not ready to see her mother. She's still vulnerable, and doesn't know yet how to deal with a NPD person. She barely realises what happened during all her childhood with her mother.
And Margaret knows how easily she can manipulate her…
Oooooh that verbal push in her face!!!
Look at haruganja's comment: https://www.instagram.com/p/BGF-PJuAGAy/
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Margo's insta selfies posted (from left to right):
- four days ago, longer hair, korean dorm;
- three days ago, shorter hair, korean dorm; and
- today, longer hair.
She's bullshitting about all of it. This selfie will be from one of her flights earlier. By the time she left the Korean dorm place she had short hair.
nope it's the 'blessing house'. check the pic: https://www.airbnb.com.au/rooms/12988992
same place as pic #2.
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adding pic. both selfies in this same room (for what it's worth).
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So NJM aka Glenda Miskin, batshit 60-year-old p0rn talent scout is on Venus's IG workin' for her bff magrot.
I think she's helping maggs with this legal bullshit. She was sued for stalking & harrassment for obsessively stalking a professor at the college she was at. She sent the guy hundreds of phone messages & emails and got kicked out of the college over it, then she set up a website where she posted fake 'news stories' about the guy and the school accusing him of being a pedophile who raped kids and had all sorts of deviant sex fetishes. She wrote a whole fake 'book' about him titled 'the kinky life of a randy physics professor' or something, going into great detail about his fetishes and pedophilia.
Anyway the poor guy took her to court for internet stalking and harassment and she 'represented' herself. He won & got a big settlement, it made the news and everything. Of course he never saw a dime bc Glenda is a broke-ass obsessive nutcase just like maggot.
I bet $10000000 she's helping maggot with this fuckery. (She's not a lawyer or even a paralegal btw… she does have a law degree from Google U tho.)
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She's not pro-Venus. She's sucking up to Venus trying to gain her trust. Now she's trying to talk her into turning over the channel, the name VenusAngelic and the 'living doll' brand to maggot so maggot can get herself a brand new VenusAngelic and be a #CelebrityManager again. Some 13-year-old she can dress up & put makeup on & parade around and make $$ on like she did with Venus, only I bet this one will be a naughty/sexxy Venus, a la hotpinky. Remember hotpinky?
Fucking maggot is salivating at the prospect. That's why she's so sassy these days.
I don't think so. Reasons why she should fight for her old channel:
1. She needs the money to build up her new life and pay for her studies. With a new channel she won't get even 1/2 of her current followers back.
2. It's a matter of justice now. If she won't get her channel back it would just mean that crappy people like margo can have their way if they just act crappy enough.
3. I believe the channel is more precious to her than we may think. She hasn't anything left from her past life, no family album, no childhood room, no old friends… nothing thanks to margmonster. The channel may be full of cringy and controversial stuff but it's still a memorial to her past, it shows the way she went and who she has become now. A lot of your farmers may think it would be better to delete the embarassing videos, change her name, channel logo, start from zero etc but that's not what Venus decided to do. From what we seen recently her way of dealing is more to accept the past and move on(just like how she recently started to make fun of her older self with her peanut persona).
152 IQ isn't even that much. I got 160+ for example, and i'm not some genius with exclusive abbilities.
This dumb cunt
how V can walk away from her OWN name?
If margo decides to put some other unfortunate girl as the new star of the channel she's the one who should rename it as jane angelic or something.
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This twat is so far up margo's ass
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I'll just leave this here.
fixed mindset vs growth mindset
Fixed mindset + 152 IQ < growth mindset + hard work
Venus is MAYBE not as much intelligent as her psycho mom but she works hard to get what she wants and needs. So she has much more capacity than she thinks.
While Marge is so proud of her 152 IQ that she thinks people owe him everything, that she has no efforts to do bc she thinks she's superior. And she has NPD that's why her IQ will never grow more than that, while V might one day surpass her mother… if it's not already the case.
OMG another "Motherhood is holy. If your mom wants to kill you bc you're unobedient than you must respect yo mother's choice. I Venus was innocent she would accept it like Isaac in da bible."-fag!
As if NJM and chu_face were not enough idiots…
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This is the stupidest comment ever made
I wonder if these people are Motherhoodholiness fanatics of if they are sockpuppet accounts.
Bc stupidity level really hurt!
I still can't believe any of these, but bet she can't even pass a job interview because of her crazy and mean spirited aura.
My bet is that she got pregnant to tie her ex husband to her, because she likes to be pampered and hates the idea of working because she can't deal with authorities well, or admit to mistakes, and now expects her daughter to take her ex husbands sustainer role, because in her head, she is the responsible one.
Mensa qualification is 134. It's full of ego-stroking, but there are some really nice programs depending on your location. And really IQ isn't that big of a deal if you don't use it for anything productive. It's just a measure of your learning potential, nothing else.
Anyway, I don't think Mags sued or even plans on suing Venus. It's likely that YT told Mags to gtfo, so now her last bet is trying to get money from Venus under the threat of a lawsuit. She's bluffing, but V & Manaki may be tired enough to give in to her demands.
You don't understand. Margret is claiming ownership of the entire Venus Angelic "brand", and everything Venus ever put out over the course of those six years she operated her channel before leaving Maggot's grasp. She claims that she is the copyright holder because, according to her (which we all know means it's bullshit), she did everything from planning the videos to creating the makeup looks, instructing Venus on how to perform the videos, filming them, doing lighting, outfit styling, etc. She thinks she owns literally every video Venus put out from the time she started her channel, up until she left Mags in Korea, and furthermore, owns the rights to the name Venus Angelic more than Venus herself does. According to her, VenusAngelic isn't a person, but an idea, a brand, a concept, which SHE created, and Venus was just the face of that brand. But the brand is owned by Maggot (bullshit, obviously, but this is her perspective). So as long as Venus owns the youtube channel and continues to make videos under that name, Midge thinks she has the right to file these claims and shut down her channel. And Venus can't make a new channel because of youtube's policy on account termination. So she has really fucked her over in the most efficient way possible, unfortunately.
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Oh shit, Venus's account is gone again.
There are quite a few ways to do just that. From tampering with birth control (condoms; pills if you're a man), denying the right to birth control (both; this is considered abuse), to digging a used condom out of the trash and shoving it up inside you (yes people have done this), and similarly giving a blowjob and keeping the sperm in your mouth and then going to the bathroom to… insert it.
You can also lie that you're on birth control/are sterile/had a vasectomy.
This is stuff that happens, although I have no idea if Maggot did any of these things. There's no way to know, but I wouldn't be surprised.
It usually goes hand in hand with other abusive/manipulative behavior.
Maggot being a scheming bitch, most likely acted nice and sweet/didn't went full turbocunt on him before pregnancy and marriage. You don't really get to know someone until you live with them. A cousin's wife did the same thing to him, everything was fine and dandy until their kid was born, bitch sued him and took everything from him plus alimony
On a side note, Venus always has been a cute girl, margo saw the opportunity to project her failed pageant mom dreams on her and milk some more extra cash. Probably if V were born as a boy, Margo would be another random single mother no one would ever heard about.
tl;dr: Basically she sees her ex-husband and ex-daughter as living ATMs, entitled to every cent they earn.
No offense anon, but you sound naive. People can and do tamper with their contraceptives and then lie about using them. >>275592
said exactly what I was thinking when I said that she probably trapped her ex-husband by getting pregnant with Venus.
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said, Venus' youtube channel is gone again
I tried to play a video I had in a playlist and it says
"The youtube channel connected to this video was terminated because of several copyright infringement claims of third parties."
New thread soon anyway.
I request mentioning in the OP why Venus can't make a new channel because it would seem that some of the idiots who come here don't bother to read the thread before posting.
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Random image so who cares about that since the text is what's interesting. Letting the bad engrish out or drunk? I'm leaning towards drunk atm
kids, getting pregnant is the easiest thing in the world. all you have to do is not
think about it and bam, pregnant. especially when you first fall in love and are having sex a lot. sure there are women scheming on babies but the reality is almost no-one actually uses foresight in these situations.
this thread became 10x more dumb overnight for some reason. / saged
"but she left back all her school documents and printed herself a US high school diplom to get into some course in Japan "
Bitch, that's a serious accusation. God.
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"her cheating 4 days after marriage […] to mess up my relationship"
I reminds me those women with children who begin a relationship with a man who is a pedophile, then they discover the truth and instead of blaming their boyfriend they blame their children.
I always wondered why V looked so strange in the photo where she is with that guy that M pretends to be her lover. There was some discomfort in her eyes. Idk how to explain.
Maybe I'm wrong but just in case I'm not the only one who thought that.
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we know a deletion spree is coming, so more:
Dude, M said contradictory and uncoherent things, while V did not. We have seen lots of shitty comments and posts from M deleted by herself while V not.
Any other stupid question?
I still don't understand how Venus cheating messed up Margo's relationship unless its true that Margo pushed her daughter on her boytoy's friend. And when he found out what Margo was doing and told his friend to stay away.
And its funny we have possible video of Venus having brusies and Margo being an controlling cunt from fan accounts but nothing on Margo's claim of her being the victim.
Every account says Margo wore the pants; hers and Venus'.
Margaret has reacted and negatively. I think that maybe she lost and is bitter then ever and that's why she posted that amount shit.
I hope that I'm right bc V will have her account deblocked again.
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She's going to claim Venus sent all those commenters to tell her to die. Good luck finding that evidence Margo because Venus' behaviour on her public accounts has been exemplary.
the flights are cheaper that way apparently. certainly she arrived in vancouver broke - you don't walk from the airport if you have any money.
but then she's flown back on the star wars jet which costs actual money, and flies out from places like chicago, houston, washington dc. all places you need money to get to and to stay in.
Shes changed this.
Could someone please cap it?
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Margo would never publicly say her parents abused her! Except right now.
thanks for adding this anon bc it was not part of the original at >>275637
my favourite part is the grandparental chromosomes dividing when the baby is created.
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Now MANAKI is after a visa? How does that even make sense?
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Margaret the Genius.
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hehee Batshit Margo is baaack!
He has a fucking job, he's providing for him and Venus because she can't help out.
How is Venus making any money if she doesn't have her YouTube.
But Venus can't. The only way for her to make any money with videos is a new platform.
She can't make a new channal unless a company makes her one.
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Lol, good point, random person. But you don't understand how important it is that Margo take endless vacations - vital! She can't stop!
Venus can't do anything like that (even if she wants to) until this new channel termination is over.
It sounds like Margo is upset because she can't afford the lawsuit, so maybe it'll just be another 6-8 week normal counter-notice process.
In the ned probably both Fullscreen and Venus want it to stay the way it is, because more $$.
yeah honestly I do too anon, but that's hilarious how margo conveniently switch her version either mana being a piss poor pedo factory worker who can't afford a real stove
to them being rich and not wanting to share their zillion yens with mommy
I also noticed that anon. Also V politely rejected that guy. IIRC she even told him she was married?
I'm pretty sure she told him the truth and he and his friend booked it.
From why Venus has said her mom tried to pimp her out to any dudes Margo thought would provide for her and maybe Venus could get the scraps.
I'll be hella surprised if Manaki was Venus's first if Margo used Venus's virginity as a selling point. Which I think Venus said she tried too.
The dude was Margo's "boyfriend"'s best friend, apparently. Margo invited them over and was trying to force the dude on her so fucking hard - everybody had drinks, and Margo took that fucking picture as planned blackmail
. And later blamed Venus when Margo's guy dumped Mags for causing the whole drama.
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Lol, mags is embarrassed and going back to fix the typos. I don't think the typos are the embarrassing part of this, Mags.
I think the "boyfriend" was much younger than Margo. I'd guess both guys were in their mid 20s>>275756
No clue, I'd have to go back and see the video. I wouldn't be surprised, though. Margo's always been convinced she can play matchmaker and that Venus will just do whatever she says. I can't imagine the rage Margo had when Venus told the guy she didn't want to be with him. That's probably what's driving this "CHEATER!!12546!!" rage: Venus didn't do what Margo wanted (divorce Manaki and fuck her boyfriend's friend.)
Even the rule of "not sticking your dick in crazy" reached Korea.
I'm pretty sure they weren't dating and Margo just forced herself on him because she pimped her daughter out.
"You can have my daughter but you have to get me a man too" on top of one of them being a possible forgiven hunter. Because I doubt Margo could get a man on her own..
How can someone put a heart and a hate speech in the same post?
It feels like "Oh I love Seoul. Aaaarg I hate my daughter."
It sounds just wrong and insane.
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Edits. Venus made a fake US high school diploma to move to Japan (lol, ok Mags), and Venus had it too good, that's why she's such a brat and wont just give Margo everything.
that last sentence doesn't even make sense
margaret confirmed for being drunk or on drugs
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As Margo goes quiet for a minute, let's see some mimiimori highlights.
>>275758>15k a month
that's fucking bullshit and she knows it. Maybe more like 1500 a month and even that is reaching. If she made that much fucking money Margo would have blown it all on fancy shit instead of looking trashy and living in 1bedroom apartments sharing a bed.
What's with her and these ridiculous sums like 10k, 15k, etc. She has an obsession with those numbers. Particularly 10k. Bitch probably thinks that's a lot of money, kek
and here >>275637
already anon. Not edits.
Probably a PULLtard since a lot of the criticism is directed toward PULL. >>275775
Boyfriend's videos get around 10k views on a new video plus old views and gets around 200 per month. Venus's most viral videos could have only gotten her around 2k - 3k per month. Margo you lying whore. Venus implied that Margo suggested that Manaki's parents help provide the rest of the 3k per month to get her channel back so it's obvious Margo is lying about 15k to create more sympathy on how her demands for money are reasonable.
specific criticism. User kept mentioning PULL and specific shit that they discuss. Seems triggered
and a point of annoyance that results from arguing with other PULLtards. Anyways, who cares. Margo's chimp out is way more fascinating then Margoyle stans.
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And Maggot is happy tourist again!
not that anon but I wouldn't mind her camping outside my home in the worst part of mexico city. After all bitch would learn a thing or two about what it is to being abused and robbed for real, not what supposedly V did to her.
sage for edges
she says a few times in her comments just now that the court case will cost thousands and she can't afford it. this seems to be her trigger
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I gave birth to you Venoos, you owe me!
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>>275820>and generally doing the cooking too
Then how in the hell does that sick fuck explain this picture? She treated Venus more like a roommate than a daughter but in the end, its probably the only good thing Maggot did since it taught her a little bit about independence.
And walking 5km while in labor to give birth? Fucking please. There's no way in hell anyone would allow a pregnant woman about the deliver do that.
hope someone reminds her that
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Margo's being a busy bee - but still hasn't deleted her rant
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"I have proofs! I do!" Put up or shut up, bitch. She claims to have video proof of Venus trying to bite off her finger, and V stamping on a dog.
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Margo doesn't understand the word "free". She only understands the word "mine".
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"I don't have to ask. She should respect and GIVE" Ah, the cry of every abusive parent.
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"I correct her behavior of not giving me money! She is PSYCHOPATH!"
AFAIK not at all, sane satanists believe more in self preservation, natural laws, respect others as long as they respect you, not letting anyone harm children and such. They supposedly took Satan as a symbol to despise hypocritical christian values.
Edgy jerks are the ones who does the whole "666 satan mah master I listen marilyn manson while burn tha churches xD" thing
Aaaaand this just reminds me. 5km also seems to be one of Maggot's favorite numbers. Remember the time when she said she was "walking 5km at night for fun"? Who the fuck does that shit? Why not do it during the day when you're not likely to get killed? 5km is her favorite unit for distance, 10K and 15K are her favorite amounts of money… There's probably even more patterns we've overlooked.>>275836
More like "take care of me" like the lazy cunt she is. Bitch needs to get a job. Even people that hate their job work because they know they need money to live.>>275838
Haha yeah. I'm sure if we had that bingo card handy, we'd fill up a few rows with all she's giving us. I remember there was even a dumbass farmer here that believed you don't need to make sacrifices as a mother and that it was optional. Fucking lol>>275840
She's not a human, she's a projector.
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So here is what the page looks like to copyright claim a video. Im really tempted to go through with it, Ive already created a fake account with a throwaway email and phone number although >>275907
is giving me doubts. But I doubt Youtube would really pursue a false claim. Also this wont work if a few other anons don't join in.
I really want to do it though even if Maggots channel is down for a only few weeks. She deserves that small annoyance after what she's put Venus though. Plus the milk would be delicious
I do remember the gossip but it was just that until Margo's crazy star really began to burn. Things were clearly sketchy in their relationship but there wasn't a lot of open evidence until somewhat recently.
Mind you this isn't a defense of PULL, what you're describing is how they approached almost every situation. And mimiimori would probably know from being a member from the sound of it.
Maggro's channel is still up for me.
wants to copyright claim for another party, Marg's Hatersong video uses unauthorized clips from The Simpsons and other things.
What interests me most on this form is they'll terminate the channel of the claimant if they abuse the process. So far they must not be deeming Margo to have abused the process. If you want to legitimately
report Margo, reporting her for abusing the process (if possible) seems interesting. Although I kinda prefer to see her shitty videos when she makes them.
But what could she do if I use a fake address?(im not dumb enough to use my real one). Do you actually think she could find me? Would Youtube or a lawyer go to the length to track down my ip address, if possible?
Im geneuinely curious because I wont do it if I can be tracked down some sort of way
She probably isn't using her actual account. I guess arguably she has a paper thin claim to the videos (highly doubtful it'd hold up in court, but it's not completely groundless).
Anyway, yeah while the risk is probably pretty minimal, sending false takedown claims is still something you could get nailed for unless you live in like Russia or something.
yeah what a shitty person
Just imagine one of those hosts gladly left a good review, and a couple of days after maggot is gone there are a bunch of legal notices in their mailbox/answer machine
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I want to tie margo up and hatefuck her while I'm dressed up as Venus.
>>VENOOS IS NOW PART OF YOU JUST LIKE YOU WANTED, MAMA! I MAKE YOU PROUD NOW!!
Disgusting, yet hilarious.
Hopefully, no tumblrinas cry about TRIGGERING
List of flight histories for all of the SW jets for further confirmation. The first is the one Margo probably flew on.https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/JA873Ahttps://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/JA789Ahttps://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/JA604A
But yeah, it is also possible that she did get into Japan and is posting old Seoul photos.
ngl I feel kinda smug about how all this came out.
I've been saying that Venus was being abused by Margaret for years now, and even on here I had people telling me to gtfo and how Venus was "an adult that can think for herself" and "needs to take responsibility for her actions, she's not her mom's puppet".
Y'all that said that can suck a dick.
>>275285>crazymomestonia>estonia>no we don't want her>>275663>>275689
because as people have explained to you all repeatedly, the channel was claim protected and could not have gone down because of a simple claim. the only options for that to have happened would be 1) margarine filed under a fake name, which can get her in a lot of shit, or 2) someone theorised youtube might not have turned the protection on yet, but it's been down for three days now and hasn't shown any signs of coming back up so it's highly unlikely that they really fucked up so bad and then don't even fix it.>>275706
2. all information points to her having already filed the lawsuit, as people mentioned above it's not very expensive
3. she can 'represent herself', which costs no money, or find a shitty cheap lawyer. youtube already said they blocked Margarine's claims, and I'm pretty sure they can't just 'ban her account' but fuck knows>>275731
what the fuck lmao
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Rant gone, nearly 300 comments deleted. Must've been a bust night for our resident genius.
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And I don't think margo-san understood what was being said - she heard that she right to claim the channel, to chastise Venus, and should definitely not stop "trying to communicate". I don't think she was the bit about apologizing or being responsible for raising a shitty kid if Venus is indeed shitty.
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I wonder if fullscreen is getting to the point of being like "nope, not worth the hassle to rep you" with Venus since dealing with her means dealing with the crazy bitch who is keeping them from earning their money.
Probably has no idea how. Just filing is a pain in the ass, then to deal with foreign status would need expertise she can't afford. And I forgot to share this because I wasn't sure how strict the courts are with this, but failure to have a permanent address is grounds for dismissal alone in civil suits.
A dismissal could result for any misstep in the tedious legal process in civil proceedings. >>276033
Now don't take my word for it because I've been working in defense work for years, but I helped out another office with a few plaintiff cases. When filing a civil suit I only needed two documents. One was an initial complaint, that included parties involved and statutes that apply etc, then a Civil Cover Sheet. Summons can be filed after initiating documents.
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Hm, sounds very familiar.
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Anyway, Margo will be lucky to get 20 cents. And that's generous af right there. I mean, she could always try applying to a McaDonalds to make money if she wants it. But I don't know if anyone wants Margo touchin their food.
good details anon! the https://www.ana-sw.com/jets/
has been pretty useless.
>>276008>the channel was claim protected and could not have gone down because of a simple claim.
Only Venus said that in her vid, and obviously by the evidence there's been a misunderstanding on her part. If the channel was truly protected no-one under any account could make a claim so easily. In the order of things, the claim must come first and lawsuit second. In that last comment-rage Margo said two or three times she can't afford the lawsuit. She's claiming.
Maybe YT meant Venus to understand it's only protected from that one single account owner, and Margo just switched accounts to make new claims. It's a shame they gave Venus that impression.
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The thirst (and filter) is real
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Lol she has to be up deleting comments. "I know you're a good person!"