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No. 276516
Venus' channel has been terminated again only a day or so after coming back.
Margo contacted Venus asking for $3000 (euro? dollars?) per month for
life in return for not touching the channel again. If Venus does not pay up Margo has explained she will continue a cycle of claiming copyright on Venus' vids to keep her channel down. Margo blackmailing her own daughter? Yes why not.
Since her trip to north America Margo has discovered a lawsuit will actually cost money.
Now claims to be in South Korea but could be posting her insta travel pics on a huge delay. Still chimping on the regular.
Know the Youtube rules:*Receiving a copyright strike will put your account in bad standing and you will lose access to certain YouTube features. If you receive three copyright strikes:
- Your account will be terminated.
- All the videos uploaded to your account will be removed.
- You won't be able to create new accounts.*
The early drama from Venus running away from home to her husband:
http://pastebin.ca/3409281Last thread:
>>273715 No. 276517
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the blackmail of Venus.
No. 276518
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The most recent rant.
No. 276519
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Venus owes Margo for the 5km walk!
No. 276522
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>>276518from the same rant session:
No. 276525
>>276524With her youtube channel down?
Probably nothing.
No. 276528
>>276524That's something only Venus and Fullscreen know. Margo's fantasising; she must know there wasn't $15K a month before or they would have been living in much more luxury. She may imagine Fullscreen are performing magic with Venus' earnings.
Here's some wide-ranging estimates:
https://socialblade.com/youtube/user/venusangelic No. 276529
>>276518>paid $6000 for her private school in LondonBut I thought she didn't go to school until they moved to the Netherlands?
Because it was full?
So is Margog trying to find things that make Venus look bad, but tying herself up in lies(like usual)?
Or
Did Venus go to school, but still asked for money from Fangelics? (This scam may or nay not have been plotted by Margogre.)
No. 276530
>>276529Venus has said Margo did any crowdfunding stuff without consultation. I assume that means any from the past.
I got the impression Venus didn't go to school in the UK. She was "homeschooled"?
No. 276533
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Another terrified dog
No. 276534
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And some margyole's logic
No. 276535
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>>276533Margo's definitely online. She's posting happy snaps and just deleted one of them plus a couple of articulate derogatory comments.
No. 276565
>>276564Even my corgi wouldn't have her shit
Also remember to sage this sorta stuff.
No. 276566
>>276533oh wonderful. Maggot now wander around Seoul streets
assaulting poor doggies for ig points
>See? I'm not a murder like my ex-daughter! animals aren't afraid of meeee!!!1! No. 276568
>>276518She's still going on about the dog? She was a little kid who accidentally hurt her dog. It happens. She's never going to let this go.
Here's a suggestion Margendo, get a job if you want money. No one's going to pay a wandering hobo lady $3000 a month in blackmail money.
Ruining her relationship with her only child is going to come back to bite her in the ass someday.
No. 276610
>>276606Their company and filing history online. Since they no longer live at that residence, it's okay to post (without doxing).
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08404898/filing-historyYou can click on the pdfs and read the forms.
No. 276618
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>>276534
>200 videosquantity isn't quality, mags.
btw love these comments on her latest Insta post.
No. 276706
>>276624yes sure, she can take control of the name as a business legally in Japan and elsewhere in the world. but she has to take
action. I wonder whether fullscreen are actually giving her any advice at all…
No. 276717
I love comparing their statistics.
Venus, if your mother tells you again that she is smarter show her that:
http://socialblade.com/youtube/compare/venusangelic/margaretpalermoBam! In your face, mother gothel!
No. 276728
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Does anyone know what happened to this movie v was suppose to be in?
No. 276730
>>276522Venus as kyabakura hostess ??
Hahaha nice try margendo
No. 276738
>>276522Yesterday: "She earns 15k a month"
Today: "I heard she's a hostess"
No. 276788
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>>276732That sounds terrifying as all hell. There's probably some dude who would wanna see that travesty but who???
If Margo does that tho…jfc imma laugh my ass off.
No. 276808
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Margo can't help herself and as usual she comes on insta to answer a few questions. In her opening caption she admits she'll pretty much attempt to use the hater comments as some kind of 'evidence' against Venus.
No. 276821
>>276809>>276815>she will say various things and when you get hooked…>tricks people by crying>teaching them how to disguise and exploit people betterPROJECTION! PROJECTION!! PROJECTION!!!
SO fucking transparent
No. 276825
>>276808Something else in here that sticks out - Margo makes vague remarks about Venus trying to leave her when she was 11. So your horrible child who was tormenting you and attacking you every day, isolating you from friends and loved ones, made a plan to live somewhere else? What was the problem with that, Margo? If she was such a burden? No more school fees to pay, no more torture. No more SwissBux, either, though, I suppose.
Also, Margo stans blab on all the time about how "if Venus was so abused, why didn't she live with her dad, HUH? Why didn't she move out after he mom supposedly attacked her, HUH?" Well, it seems she tried to. Odd how Margo didn't jump at the opportunity to be freed from the child who supposedly abused her.
No. 276828
>>276827The problem with disappearing is her mother will still harass and stalk her. While Venus remains in the public sphere there are a lot of witnesses. paradoxically, it's safer.
Also I don't think Venus wants give up something she's worked hard on and feels a connection to. Nor should she have to.
No. 276829
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>>276828Venus is Manson now. Killing Margo by proxy.
No. 276830
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>>276829The children roasting Margo over her ineffective Manson comparison.
No. 276831
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>>276825Margo clarifies the 11 thing. Also has just deleted the Manson convo… there must be steam coming out her ears.
No. 276837
>>276833>>276831Would Venus be getting Youtube money at this point?
Venus trying to claim her youtube money= stealing
No. 276839
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>>276831The follow up. At least one minion has appeared and I guess they have their chats behind the scenes.
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>>276808>>276808Now comparing V to Hitler? wow best mother ever
No. 276851
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>>276820yes and yes, since she hilariously thinks that it's ok to be a third wheel, that Okadas were super rich, and Mana's father had a thing for her or something lmao. Probably saw a double juicy meal ticket waiting for her
No. 276854
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>>276852chu is so irritating. "don't worry master, I'll take care of them for you". in the meantime lets enjoy this study in contrast:
No. 276867
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PRO-Jec-TION
It's VENUS who totally took YouTube's auto email out of context as direct instructions to stalk and sue. Def not Margles.
No. 276868
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>>276867This is what Margo is referring to - she's outright denying that she's demanding $3k a month. It's all YouTube's doing: They took Venus's videos down; they gave Venus's address to Margo and told Margo to go "settle" things in person; they told Margo to demand a settlement; they told Margo to sue. Margo is just a leaf in the wind.
No. 276872
>>276870Well, yeah, when you scream at YouTube they send you a form email saying, "yeah, can't do anything over here. X (settlement with the copyright owner if you feel this denial of claim has been made in error) and Y (address this claim to your local legal magistrate) are things that can happen, but have nothing to do with us."
Neither of those are things out of your hands, Margo, you fucking dipshit. Just stahp. That's all you have to do. Stop moving. Stop making drama. Stop making your insanity public. But then you'd really feel alone, wouldn't you? Because you are, you just cause problems to pretend you aren't.
No. 276875
>>276867>>276872sounds like even the people of YouTube are tired of this BS and want to finally peace in this case.
But is it possible that they can ban or sue Mags if she continue to do this shit for this entire year and so on? I mean it's a lost of money for a lot parties.
No. 276880
>>276877>>276879it's horrifically difficult to actually enforce any sort of IP ban even if the person is staying in one place, because proxies and VPNs are so prevalent these days. I doubt Google has some sort of secret technology not shared with the rest of the world for it
.. though now I feel like I'd love to see what would happen if Google figured out a way to MAC ban computers from accessing any Google services whatsoever
No. 276885
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>>276808>>276809Venus is now hitler-chan. Kek
So why $3000??? Isn't Margo sending an awfully steep price for Venus? Talk about greedy like gitdamn.
No. 276900
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#Margologic
No. 276903
>>276900mags is projecting again so she has some new shit planned against venus?
But I guess the management of V told her to be silent about this situation and mags can't shut her stupid mouth.
She is so far from reality.
No. 276904
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>>276900here's the trauma psych quote.
No. 276912
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savage.
No. 276917
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#publictoiletselfie
No. 276952
I had a god damn dream about Venus and Margot last night. I need to stop reading this shit.
>>276951She needs extra room for her ego.
No. 276969
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>>276968venus supposed to be in episode 3 but it wasn't/isn't allowed to upload it because the well known reasons.
No. 276972
>>276971judging by the time when the comment was posted I guess "yes".
I mean the could have fear to get sued too because of psycho mags.
No. 276989
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Margo edited one of her captions from last night
No. 277002
>>276989ok wait, maybe it's just the margo way of english but
>asks us to have an agreement or settle it legallyso everything mags is doing rn is illegally?
No. 277005
>>277002no this is just you being a retard and not understanding her
legally = through courts
>>276989>>277000this literally sounds like she's seeing her own messages and thinking they're by her, or thinking she's possessing her to write all these evil messages
No. 277008
>>276989Oh, right. Venus posts the margbot's demand for $$ and that's an ATTACK and HARASSMENT. This freak's twisted thought processes never cease to amaze me.
>it's always silence, attack, silence, attackHer projection is stunning too. And the VICTIM complex. EVERYONE is against her. EVERYONE in her life is an abuser. Now she's completely alone in the world but that's EVERYONE ELSE'S fault.
>she wants me to dieNo cunt, she wants you to leave her the fuck ALONE.
No. 277010
>>277006So is there any kind of time frame included in this? i.e. 'you have X amount of time to either reach an agreement or begin legal proceedings'? Or 'if you reach an agreement by {date} the channel will be reinstated. If you begin legal proceedings it will remain down until they are completed'?
Or do they just leave it dangling indefinitely?
No. 277012
Upon rereading
>>276989 and since we've pretty much come to the consensus that Margo projects like crazy:
>After getting… everything she wanted… I think she will continue to harass me to the point where my life becomes worthless. I am bullied by her to justify her actions afterwards. She will continue, it's always silence, attack, silence, attack.I think it is
very safe to say that even if Venus gives up her channel/"brand" and the $3k/mo (what Margo wants), Gitka is going to harass Venus until Gitka deems her daughter to be "worthless."
Zsu mentioned that Gitka was "difficult" (as a child?), it would make a lot of sense as to why Gitka thought the family was abusive if she's always projected like this.
>does something wrong in reality>thinks someone else did it>gets punished for it>sees it as getting punished for what someone else did No. 277014
>>277010YouTube will reinstate the channel if the complainant has not filed a follow up suit in court by such and such a date after the DMCA notice is filed with YouTube. That's what happened to Venus's channel the first time. Margo
s first set of claims expired, and the channel came back.
But Margo filed 20 claims, and Venus has 200 videos that were made while she was a minor and / or lived with her mother. Margo seems to be planning to file new claims every 8 weeks on other material Venus has published. She never has to file in court; she can just make more claims every 8 weeks. But obviously this is an abuse of the DMCA and YouTube's policy.
The best thing to come out of this would be a major change to the way google responds to third party claims with no connection or flimsy connections to the materials.
No. 277025
>>277014She should just hide her old videos so that Margo can't file 20+ claims.
The channel will be worthless soon as people lose interest and get frustrated. Margo (and her trolls) are so stupid.
No. 277029
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The kids are going INN on mangot. She won't like waking up to this, lol. DELETE/BLOCK/DELETE/BLOCK/DELETE/BLOCKKK
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No. 277033
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Landing some solid blows, too. Not just "die bitch"
No. 277066
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The maggot is awake and paranoid as usual
No. 277067
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No. 277069
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>not doll
I thought Venus Angelic, the living doll was your creation, maggot.
No. 277073
>>277069>if she managed to get rid of my lifelmao is she having delusions at this point? Venus is planning her murder now
or maybe this is what Venus was talking about in her video when she said Mayo manipulated her with suicide/death threats. She's talking about her own death and blaming Venus for it so she'll guilt trip her into contacting her or something
No. 277081
>>276808>> she did something similar with 11What? Run away?
11 years old? Where did she live when she was 11 years old?
No. 277087
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So Venus's channel is down now. We can only assume the Maggot is behind this.
No. 277098
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>she posts publicly for attention
Oh margoo please…
No. 277104
>>277101since you don't know already, it is against the rules of this site to 'personal blog'. while it's sad you had a bad life, you need to take your conversations about it to
>>>/b/ or you risk getting banned.
No. 277108
>>276828No, wait, I think
>>276827 is right.
If Venus stops with her online career to start an private career (she studying), her mother who has NPD never can have any kind of control over her again.
The only informations Margaret has from Venus comes from her mom-free social media accounts (instagram, snapchat and rarely youtube).
By stopping posting things in her public accounts Venus turns invisible, and Margaret loses control over her (through blackmail, diffamation, etc).
M will eventually destroy herself on social media. The online troll with metaphoricly die.
If so Venus already won the game! #victory
No. 277114
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No. 277115
Semi-OT, but you know what pisses me off? The media being silent on this whole situation. I know they only need living dolls and all kinds of ecelebs for only entertainment, but I believe a wide public reaction could help to finally stop Marglot and prevent her from further poisoning her daughter's life and taking her channel down. Maybe I'm being naive but…
Russian media document every single fart of another living doll, Valeria Lukyanova, but they also wrote about how she got beaten up on the street, and if she didn't refuse to talk about it in interviews I believe it could become way more widely known.
Here we have a truly
horrifying case of child abuse that needs to be told about and the only article I could find was this one, by Vice, and it was posted in April, so much more shit happened since then!
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/the-growing-pains-of-youtubes-guru-of-cute No. 277118
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Margo's quite active and she has a shit-ton of new "supporters" today.
No. 277120
>>277115the "media" doesn't keep tabs on internet people like they do with real celebrities. No journalist is following Venus on instagram, and no one's gonna care enough about an article titled "remember that living doll girl from 3 years ago? her mom is extorting her!"
>Russian media document every single fart of another living doll, Valeria Lukyanovafalse. despite the fact that Valeria has an entire website dedicated to documenting her every breath, the Russian media is mostly blissfully unaware of it and only report what comes out of Valeria's own mouth, like that fake "beaten up on the street" incident, which was just her cover up for surgical bruises. besides, she's a million times more popular and news worthy (b/c controversial) than Venus
No. 277124
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plantfeelings is not getting the attention she craves from Margo.
No. 277125
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>>277118margo and supporters
No. 277129
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No. 277141
>>277119I don't work for the media so I doubt they need articles written by me.
Online media are pretty much useless. I think Venus needs to get to the talk show. Not like I'm unaware it's very unlikely to happen even if she wanted to make this story public.
And you don't need to be a celeb to get to a talk show with your problems seeking for help, you know.
>>277120I know Val's story was complete bullshit, just didn't think it needs to be mentioned because this was not related to what I was talking about.
No. 277155
>>277025That's not how it works anon because she can also file claims on her new videos.
Remember when Margo copyright claimed parody videos that didn't have any content from them included? Yeah.
No. 277162
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>>277158good point. or just pulling shit from here / pull etc. how many of these supporters are bitter little pull posters?
No. 277175
>>277109Everytime Margoyle tries to go to Japan she gets kicked back to SK. If Venus stops looking in her instagram, snapchat, yt, etc. everythings stops in V's point of view. No news = good news. She probably doesn't even answer to her mother.
That's called no-contact. And that's an effective way to never be affected again from psychic abusers like her mother.
No. 277176
>>277129>extremely kind hearted father.What a flip flop in this statement.
Not long ago Mags was describing him as a psychopath.
No. 277184
>>277178That could be it.
Still, it seems a little off…
No. 277185
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Margo pls, you erased your own laptop.
No. 277188
>>277180I think M is talking to a wall. The day she will realise it, she will start researches, in vain. She will shout to everyone how psychic and autistic is her manipulative daughter, and no one will listen. She will be kicked back from Japan to SK over and over again.
She already lost her family's trust. She has nowhere to go back. She is alone.
And then she will realise she has no way to reach her daughter. And what do psychopaths in this case? She will find another person to abuse. Like she did to her family, ex-husbands, ex-boyfriends, her daughter.
One to replace another. Sad but true.
No. 277192
>>277069Weren't you the one who shipped V with mana as soon as you noticed how much YT cash you could milk off their relationship? In those screenshots Manaki doesn't seemed eager to rush the marriage at all.
Good thing they turned out to be more functional than you margo.
No. 277194
>>277185Losing Data sucks.
Did she still have remote access to the computer itself before she bricked it? Im not too sure how mac book security works.
No. 277198
>>277194>>277197Margo was initially able to see all the iCloud activity plus a map location, that's how she saw photos of the new place. Yes she could have tracked Venus indefinitely, but… Once you choose the 'Erase' option and or the 'Lock' you are shit out of luck. No tracking and you will see none of the hard drive data again. If you retrieve the Mac physically you can restore only what's in iCloud.
https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT204756I don't know if they gave the bricked laptop to her when they let her have access to the Tokyo storage stuff? if so Margo would have had to take it to an Apple store to get it unlocked I think. There's no way Venus can unlock it.
No. 277203
>>277129>storage this
triggers me
if venus isn't still paying for that shit, it would be gone by now, maggot.
No. 277209
>>277131it's to imply their marriage was only for a visa.
To be fair, that's how it seems, but I think it's just Venus attempting to be kawaii and emulating her younger viewers. She's only 19 and married, I think she's aware enough to know that it's not a wonderful image.
No. 277215
>>277208>>277207agree there are definite trolls in there and not all of them are being obvious.
plus a few bitter kids whose accounts are full of depressing selfies. plus a few supporters who have more than one account.
No. 277232
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No. 277236
>>277232>Is Venoos evil or is it Manaki who messed her up?How about option 3 cuntface: they both just want you to leave them the fuck alone?
Also, LOL @"boohoo I no have fun no mooore"
No. 277241
>>277232>manaki live from my earningsoh wow wonderful
another PRO-FUCKIN-JECTION
No. 277243
>>277242good point. the storage unit in tokyo is probably closed. I remember she said something about a stressful time getting the stuff, she probably had to move it all fast. any storage in south korea, marge has had access to recently.
the storage she talks about losing is in NL. the only "proof" Margo could have there is something about Venus tramping on a dog something something.
No. 277283
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"strange, cold, threatening or philosophical emails come"
No. 277287
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>>277258>>277261BWAHAHA yes! maggot emailed Sharla, Micaela and at least 3 other jvloggers back in March offering them "special secret deals" with Fullscreen, Lol.
Micaela retweeted hers and Sharla & the others jumped in to say 'omg I got one too!' Now magrot's deleting bc she doesn't want Sharla & the rest to get wind of this & end up being humiliated on Twitter again. LOLLLLL this is too much for me, I might die right now….
Sharla's attached:
No. 277288
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>>277287Micaela's tweets:
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No. 277294
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No. 277295
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Last one. Micaela & some of the others have been following the whole thing & already knew maggot was a crazy bitch.
No. 277309
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Ooh,based aunt zsu bringing the fire
No. 277310
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What is mags trying to say here? She can't leave things at the chef's place because he's left house (broken down everything?)? Or because she thinks the house will get broken into? Marglish is a fucked language of crazy plus engrish.
No. 277311
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Mags ain't gonna show the email - and she bets Venus calls her names to Mana! Yeah, that's why they won't let this crazy woman leave her things in their house.
No. 277313
>>277311Oh no, not…NAME CALLING!! Wow, the only thing worse than -that- could be something like, oh, I dunno, throwing a knife at somebo–
Oh. Wait.
No. 277316
>>277255If Margo's settling in Europe, why is she looking for storage in Tokyo? Why isn't she trying to arrange shipping back to a stable address in Europe?
She's got zero plans to go back. She wants more Tokyo storage so her base for harassment is secure.
No. 277318
>>277316She has to save the Tokyo storage stuff in just a few days (10th June). It appears she can't go to Tokyo herself and doesn't want to pay the commercial storage rates. Why not just arrange with the storage place to get a smaller, more affordable cubicle and pay the cost for them to move the things there? I think she wants a real person so she can fiddle the payments a bit while she sorts herself out.
I wonder if she has any specific plans, or just speaks of Europe out of desperation.
No. 277331
>>277224yes. i recently did it (was originally going to stay only my 90 days, but decided to stay longer) and had a friend who was here for about 2 years who never got a visa and did the same.
even if you have a long term visa, there have been people who have over stayed them and immigration has been pretty lenient about it.
No. 277334
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Oho! Margaret admits she made her estimates of Venus's earnings from socialblade - so this crazy bitch assumes Venoos rakes in the top estimate each and every month?? Yeah, you took all her cash for years Margo, you KNOW she doesn't make anywhere near that amount! But seeing someone else say it's possible V makes that is driving Margo MAD
No. 277341
>>277336yeah, i'm just basing it off of what some people have told me though all anecdotal of course.
>>277338yes, i'm aware. i'm answering the person who asked if korea's immigration was like japan's where you can just take a quick trip to get a new visa.
No. 277342
>>277339It's also interesting that all these new 'supporters' have suddenly turned up to push the 'Venus is RICH, I know a youtuber who really does make that much. She should totally give some to her poor mom, she can spare it!' along with 'Venus is such a liar, she lies about everything! She's totally lying about this too and just trying to get attention!'
Very convenient.
No. 277347
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>>277343>>277345These are both part of it, definitely- but I think something happened with Youtube too. Some of her first comments on the first rant (now deleted) were about YT telling her she needed to file a lawsuit and she couldn't afford it.
No. 277357
>>277347>It was a joint channel hacked by Venus, my name changed into hers.>the first 200 videos are not her workLet us never forget this interview.
At 1:45 mark:
>"When she began this, how did you react?">"I can tell you one thing, when she asked me to allow her to do a Youtube channel, I said 'no'."Also, this:
>"Why?">"And just in case you get attention, I was not sure I could handle it." No. 277361
Here's what I think happened:
- margo tries to file more DMCA claims when the old ones expire. YT says no, that's not gonna work this time, if you want to pursue this further you have to file a lawsuit (or reach an agreement with Venus.)
According to YT's TOS, any legal actions must be pursued in Santa Clara county, CA:
"These Terms of Service shall be governed by the internal substantive laws of the State of California, without respect to its conflict of laws principles. Any claim or dispute between you and YouTube that arises in whole or in part from the Service shall be decided exclusively by a court of competent jurisdiction located in Santa Clara County, California."
- margo says okay bitches, it's ON. Flies to Vancouver & takes a bus to CA. Maybe has some online form she filled out, whatever. Thinks all she has to do is hand it to the clerk and DONE, Venoos channel down indefinitely.
(I checked the Santa Clara county court website and it sounds like a DIY civil lawsuit does need to be filed in person, i.e. hand the forms to the clerk personally.)
- margo flies back to Seoul thinking she's got this in the bag, then finds out/realizes/is notified that she won't be able to do it w/o a lawyer. Finds out what that will cost.
- emails Venus trying to 'reach an agreement.' Demands $3K/month. Venus says hell no & posts her demand on IG.
- marge goes off the deep end.
No. 277407
>>277382>>277392She couldn't do shit, especially not if she didn't know your name, address, number and wasn't even capable of entering the country legally, which it appears she isn't.
God Anon, if you can actually do this, oh my god it would be amazing.
No. 277435
>>277411She wrote to Sharla too, and several others.
See
>>277287 >>277289
No. 277440
Auntie Zsu was on the
https://www.instagram.com/gaming_ks/ page asking if anyone knew where in Europe marge was headed, she didn't want any surprises. And if anyone heard anything to please let her know.
I wish V would contact her. She seems pretty cool from her IG, has a nice life in Switzerland, husband, kids, travels a lot and really seems to care about Venus. No pics of her house but the yard is gorgeous. Cmon Venus, reach out to your Auntie!
I'd love to hear Zsu's perspective on V's bio dad too. He was her bro-in-law for 7 years. Wonder if she's still in touch with him?
No. 277445
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>>277440I really wonder if aunt Zsu wants to talk to mags IF she would return to europe at some point.
No. 277509
>>277115I have contacted the journalist via Twitter. She is considering updating it. She hasn't been following the drama as of late and has asked about the first take down of Venus' channel. If she asks further questions I could report back here.
I can't believe those were her sources though lol.
>>277361This is extremely plausible, anon.
No. 277510
>>277445holy shit lmao, margarine BTFO by auntie Zsu
I really hope venus contacts her and gets in touch with dad, if dad is still in Switzerland it'd be much easier for him to report that Venus is no longer under margarine's care and cut her off from at least one source of money
No. 277513
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More love for the marglemonster to wake up to..this will be the first one deleted. Makes way too much sense, must go.
No. 277519
>>277370How many times? She cannot send more from sockpuppets, DMCA is filed through personal details, not YouTube accounts. Unless she is using someone else's details (extremely unlikely since she has ruined every single relationship she has ever had, she has no one to do this with) she can't file more DMCA's.
Venus' account is down again because margo chose to pursue the matter in court, not because she was convicted of more copyright infringement. It's clear that margo is giving up pursuing this venture because she said she's going back to Europe, hopefully Venus' channel will be back up soon. I think the anon's theory is pretty spot on as to what happened.
No. 277547
>>277546"You monster I hate you, leave Venus alone you monster, go die, you're one of the least needed people on this planet"
"You're so fucking wretched, can't do anything than laugh"
No. 277552
>>277540maggot may not use a fake addresses since they most likely might ask for her documentation at some point of the process, but yeah giving the airbnb address is something this bitch totally could do
>>277548because that's totally not giving more reasons to maggot and her minions for attacking her daughter. If Venus wants an update on her story then directly will contact that journalist, sure she doesn't need someone else doing unwanted PR for her.
No. 277564
>>277548Psst anon, this is a secret but actually journalists aren't all pure hearted investigators that seek out truth and share it with the world.
If you get a journalist on this case they aren't going to spent a week reading through our pathetic chinese cartoon boards, they're going to do a Keemstar and do the least amount of research possible and post the most dramatic story they can make of it. Honesty, truth and what's best for Venus won't factor in on it.
No. 277580
>>277571Yeah, it's not like they still would pick that storyline for clicks rather than informing the truth hahaha.
Anyways, we don't even know if Fullscreen allows her to say anything about this during the legal dispute. Or Venus just wish to keep everything to herself until the channel is back and people should respect that.
No. 277591
Oooh, Margo's recent twitter ramblings are absolutely infuriating. There must be something legitimately mentally wrong with her to have all of these people telling her that she's being an abusive asshole and to somehow turn every criticism around as if it's something wrong with Venus and not her.
I don't understand how she can cross so many personal boundaries with her own daughter and not feel a tinge of guilt or responsibility. Like, she keeps using the picture that she faked of Venus cheating on Manaki as "proof" that Venus is evil when really it's the opposite! It's proof that Margo is a lying cunt willing to fuck over her own daughter on a whim. Is she just a manipulative bitch or has she legitimately convinced herself that she is the good guy in this situation?
And her extortion attempt is laughable. She thinks that she's entitled to Venus' revenue because she groomed her into a child star? Venus' videos succeeded DESPITE Margo's terrible judgement and influence, not because of them. All Margo ever did was bring down her channel with shit video ideas and editing. The only appeal to the Venus Angelic channel IS Venus Angelic. You'd think that much would be obvious.
Also, youtube is not Hollywood. People make youtube accounts for themselves, not for a "brand" made by their mothers. The supposed "brand" is her own name for god's sake! Why would she set up a youtube account for Venus in the first place if she was just trying to start a brand of her own? Maybe she thought all along that this could be how she keeps Venus on a short leash? I mean, if you want a business, you make that shit yourself. You don't name it after your underage daughter and make her the face of it unless it's hers.
Anyway, whether or not the persona was Margo's creation, it's clear that Venus has adopted it as her own personality. The fact that Margo's first thought upon Venus growing up and becoming independent is to get another girl to be the "face" of her name shows how replaceable her daughter is to her. It's not your brand, Margo. It's your daughter's personality. You don't own that, and you certainly don't deserve 3k a month for grooming her into the pedo-bait loli weeb that people like watching.
No. 277593
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So I was talking to Margs about her stuff and holy moly… 2-3 months? That's crazy… I thought a few weeks, max 1 month or so. And prove she is short on money…
No. 277598
>>277593Lol, 2 or 3 MONTHS she wants free storage from a stranger?? And then you're supposed to ship her 18 fucking boxes… somewhere in Europe TBD? You know she wants the shopping done "totally pay you back later!", too. For 18 fucking boxes and international shipping, with God knows what inside. Who moves country with 18 boxes, with zero home and no permanent visa??
God, narcissists are so fucking predictable with their identical playbooks. When I helped a friend clean house after he finally decided to divorce his narc wife, he showed me her fucking hoard that they'd been hiding out of view on the second floor. I've no doubt margos boxes are filled with nothing but crap on crap on crap that she buys mindlessly nonstop. All bought with venus's money.
No. 277601
>>277594I feel so bad for her having to grow up with that. It seems likes she isolated Venus from everyone, then went off the deep end when she was finally able to gain some independence.
>say that her own daughter scared away her friends so she's glad she's goneAnd Margo told her that she was probably autistic at one point too. That's the kind of stuff that you just don't say to your family.
No. 277607
>>277593Anon did you ask her where she's going & what her plans are? Share pls!
>2 or 3 months while I save $$ for shipping^ Seems like pursuing a lawsuit against Venus is not part of the picture here.
No. 277613
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>>277607This is what I asked her but forgot to ask where she is planning to go in Europe…
Well, I can't take her stuff for that long. So let's see it burn lol
No. 277614
>>277613Message her back anon, damn. Pretend you're still interested in helping her. Strike up a conversation. Asking casually where she'll be would be the next logical step.
DO IT FOR US
No. 277620
>>277616I already said I could take it no more than one month, she read it but haven't replied and I doubt she would spill anything from now. Sorry I was too fast in answering.
>>277617As far as I know you need to be a resident to have these storage rooms and I think these are under Manaki's name and if she is short on cash anyways how is she gonna keep that? I doubt Manaki would pay for her
No. 277622
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She's feelin feisty today
Keepin it real for the FANS
She posts what she wants when she wants and she DON'T PLAY NO GAMES, y'all
No. 277623
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She travels light and SMART and she knows how to organise things- THAT'S how she gets the $$ to travel bitches
>travels light
>with weights
LOLLLL
No. 277626
>>277623yeah travel light and clever at mana's expense, I would love to see this bitch carrying 18 boxes of trinkets with her
And what bother her most is HOW VENUS DARED TO NOT PICK UP HER PANTIES AND THE TABASCO SAUCE BOTTLE! outrageous!
No. 277628
File: 1465267111360.jpeg (205.31 KB, 750x1334, image.jpeg)
I didn't expect that… She is really that desperate isn't she? What should I dooooo
No. 277630
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lmao
No. 277634
>>277628Anon, like, Anon.
Seriously, like.
Listen.
So, alright, plan is.
You steal her shit.
Like, fucking steal it.
Get the boxes, give Manakkers a sly wink on your way out, and then like, never contact Maggles again.
Don't give her your address, change all known contact points, no number, no nothing.
What could she actually do. She couldn't do fucking SHIT lel
No. 277637
>>277635who fucking cares.
do it anon, do it for the lulz!
No. 277641
File: 1465268285360.gif (423.77 KB, 500x278, summer.gif)
>>277637it must be summer
No. 277643
>>277519Sure, but where is the hard proof that YT told her to fuck off, permanently? This theory about the court case (while interesting) hinges on an unknown fact. We pretty much know YT sent them a both form letter at the conclusion of the previous set of claims and termination. The letter could have related purely to that set of actions; we don’t know for sure. Remember that the counter-notices expired on their own because there was no court case at that time, which is enough for automatic resolution of that particular dispute. Margo and Venus have taken their own interpretations away from the letter they received - both flawed interpretations it would seem.
Copyright claims are definitely tied to an individual’s YT account (even if you are claiming off-YT content) and you agree on the form to your own account being terminated if you are deemed to be abusing the process.
Margo also may have been the long term holder of several YT accounts, we don't know that for sure. She may be using one that won’t affect her current live channel. Or maybe she is.
For Margo to have been stopped from claiming again, she would have to be deemed by YT as abusing the copyright claims process. I suspect YT does not jump to that immediately because they need to see a pattern, not just one set of claims. Margo would have chimped the fuck out about YTs injustice to her if this had happened yet. So Margo may well be free to make more claims. We don’t know for sure.
I'm not disputing this
>>277361is plausible. It's very informative as well - clicking through to the court forms added at
>>277363finds there is an overwhelming amount of info you need to provide to start a case. It would not be easy to do without a lawyer - even picking the category for the case is hard. Reading through these docs is really interesting: once you notify the court of your intent, you don't have long to get the ball rolling and if you don't get your Summons and Complaint served in time you will lose your right to sue forever.
So there's a lot of stress points here that could be kicking Margo off: court deadlines, storage issues, money issues, issues about her future.
I'm not really interested in having a theory (interesting as it is) rammed down my throat as fact. And I'll keep arguing the point every time. Until we see a court record, there is no proof Margo has begun the case.
No. 277645
>>277628WUT she's giving you shit bc you're only offering to store her 18 boxes of crap for a month? REALLY???
Oh this is gooood. She's working herself up into another manic fit, hahaha. Thank god she can't get back in to Japan.
I can't believe not a single person has asked her where she's going yet. These teenage trolls don't give a fuck about her, they're just there to fight & stir shit. btw her newest IG best friend potatowhatever just turned 13.
No. 277649
>>277643but:
- she flew to Vancouver saying it was what YT "told me I had to do to pursue my claim." What else would she "need" to be in the US for?
- in her first IG rant she was raging about YT making her do things she "couldn't afford to do" and "lawsuits cost thousands of dollars to start." (later deleted) This after after being all happy & full of herself just the day before and for days prior to that.
So what changed? If she was planning on just filing DMCA claims forever and being able to keep the channel down that way, why the sudden ragefest? Why would she be so mad? She doesn't care THAT much about being banned from Japan or being broke. Her #1 goal is to get Venus back by killing the channel. She would consider that mission accomplished and be very pleased with herself, not furiously lashing out at Venus.
It all fits, anon.
No. 277651
File: 1465271062061.png (87.61 KB, 916x410, margo.PNG)
#VeryFitness
#MuchWorkout
#SoSightseeing
#IronLegs
No. 277652
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Margo's theory of the universe. Actually sounds a lot like Elon Musk's recent statements.
No. 277655
>>277652The holographic universe theory is widely known in the physics community so she didn't just pull it out of her butt, she just doesn't understand it and sounds like a complete fucking dolt when she tries to talk about it. Her lack of understanding is probably why she has "difficulty" explaining it.
I think she's trying to show off her ~~152IQ~~ but she just sounds stupider and stupider.
sage bc who cares
No. 277657
>>277649Yes, Margo obviously went to Santa Clara Court to get it rolling. She's so
triggered about the court costs (which has basis in her real experience because she is being so specific) and she didn't go all that way for nothing.
But the part about her definitely filing- and this is what is keeping the channel down- is not proven (yet). It's important to note that for YT to terminate the channel someone has to make claims first, then the court action is what follows. It can follow immediately, or during the counter-notice time. We have no proof Margo has been outright banned from making YT copyright claims (yet).
The general movements of Margo are agreed. It's some of the fine points that are being stated as fact- when we don't quite know for sure yet. Other theories fit too but "fit" is not how we ascertain fact.
No. 277660
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Dropped pic
No. 277664
>>277661People who are drawn to this theory in the Matrix-like sense (i.e. laymen outside of theoretical physics) are drawn to the idea that power would therefore be limitless. All that 'Secret' and manifesting shit is borne from the same desire for some power and control over one's life. When we don't have it, we crave it. Steve Jobs got taken down by cancer; Ray Kurzweil won't live forever; Elon Musk is just as mortal. Musk is going to change transport forever though and I actually look forward to what he'll do.
/saged for Margo-like musing.
No. 277675
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Okay this is downright creepy. She's on IG bonding and having a big ole hugfest with a little group of troubled teens with mommy issues. "Thank you for sharing your experience" type shit. Playing kind mommy, homing in on their vulnerabilities & exploiting them like the fucking sociopathic freak she is. And apparently she's been chatting with more than one offline and for quite awhile now. Oozing up to them like pedophiles grooom their victims.
I mean this potatoprincess girl just turned 13 for fucks sake. What 41-year-old woman does this??
No. 277678
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>>277676Poor margaret, people are so mean! She was just hurt and upset when she said those things!
No. 277686
>>277676>I wish my mom was like margarethahahaha oh no dear, trust us, you wouldn't want that
Margo totes could start an Idol group a la Gloria Trevi with those dumb girls
(for the farmers who aren't hispanic, some famous singer and her manager recruited naive girls to launch them to the stardom but all of them ended kidnapped and abused emotionally and physically)
No. 277695
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This photo… Accurately says everything about how animals don't like her. That poor Golden Retriever looks like it's trying to help that poor puppy she has in her psychotic abusive clutches.
No. 277704
>>277598this is why one of the anons should grab the shit, leave false/slightly fucked contact details, and when margarine refuses to pay/doesn't contact her in a month, forward it to venus
half of that shit is probably hers anyway, which is why I have no moral qualms regarding this
>>277652lmao, wasn't margarine supposed to be a nuclear physicist according to herself
is this her
original research stating that physics is incorrect
>>277660wow, that translation is not even trying
No. 277711
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>>277710Vancouver confirmed. Nothing for the US but she might have stayed only a night, if at all.
No. 277728
>>277721I am that anon and that's what I was trying to say. YT doesn't just say "injustice, you're banned". Things just don't move that fast. And I'm disagreeing with the anon who says Marge has been banned from YT claiming at
>>277519 and
>>277361 No. 277730
File: 1465293541299.jpg (106.86 KB, 1000x974, margo30.jpg)
>>277652further musings on time and space. / saged for being a little OT
No. 277733
>>277728anon
>>277361 here. I'm going by what the margcunt herself said: 'Youtube told me I need to go to US to pursue my rights' or some such shit. Someone from YT communicated that to her, she flew to Vancouver BC, back to SK and contacted Venus demanding $$ (her idea of 'trying to reach a settlement'?
Question: what would she 'need' to go to the US to do? Only answer I can think of is to initiate a DIY civil lawsuit.
Question: why would she feel the need to do that if she could just keep filing DMCA claims to keep the channel down indefinitely?
No. 277736
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>>277730So profound!
And she's STILL on IG chatting it up with her teenage bff's. "LOL lmfao bwuhaha!"
No. 277741
>>277733>Question: what would she 'need' to go to the US to do? Only answer I can think of is to initiate a DIY civil lawsuit.Yes. She needs to be in the US to file a lawsuit.
>Question: why would she feel the need to do that if she could just keep filing DMCA claims to keep the channel down indefinitely?She doesn't just want to cripple Venus financially, she wants the share of the pie she sees herself as being entitled to. Continually DMCAing will not make any of Venus' income hers, and she only did it in the first place because she was trying to blackmail Venus.
No. 277743
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Margo expands on her interactions with V & Ms landlord
No. 277750
>>277749yes, but
lebenstesterin (formerly jasmine_phil) is an example of someone looking here regularly too.
No. 277765
File: 1465300244642.jpg (88.94 KB, 758x717, margo32.jpg)
Of course it's not about copyright. It's about the pot of gold she sees Venus as.
No. 277766
>>277764Meh, anyone who is any good at it won't make such obvious statements. They'll just make you
feel that way. Margo's not skilled at it at all. /saged for waffle
No. 277787
>>277613Oh i would take those 18 boxes and sell her trinkets, and then block contact with mags. She is just asking to be screwed.
>>277632>>277634>>277637>>277704Oh anons, if only more people had as much spine as you do.
No. 277790
>>277704What if Venus doesn't want that shit anymore?
>>277787>spinethat's a weird way to spell "summer"
No. 277793
>>277787it takes spine to come to a compromise with marge where if she doesn't find another home for her shit after a month you get rid of it? it's not like you're straight up stealing, you're making the terms clear and saying "hey since you're in a bind i'll watch your stuff for only a month, but you have to find someone else in that time, otherwise i toss it"
seems reasonable to me
No. 277801
>>277793There's a strict "hands off" approach when it comes to observing cows. Only summerfags/newfags try to actively get involved with a cow. That or they're a cow themselves.
>reasonableYou're retarded. Dealing with a bunch of shitty belongings and storing them in your house just to rummage through Margo's old clothes and garbage that even Venus and Manaki would throw out is not worth it.
>>277796Margo trying to get into pop science. She probably read this article:
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/there-is-growing-evidence-that-our-universe-is-a-giant-hologramAnd is attempting to impressed her 13 year old followers. Notice how she mentions a paraphrased quote from this specific article that says this theory might make up for "contradictions" obviously not explaining the contradictions she's referring to. Of course she doesn't explain how the theory would resolve these inconsistencies either because she doesn't understand a god damn thing about what she just read. I hate when people like Margo try to justify their made up IQ by paraphrasing popular physics theories. She probably doesn't know how to solve basic high school projectile problems much less discuss advanced theoretical physics that is in the beginning stages of testing and mathematical proofs.
No. 277805
>>277790can sell it, it's not like her main source of income is gone or anything
like, I could understand if she never wanted to see it again, but it's all bought off of her money anyway most likely so I'd consider her the owner
No. 277827
>>277808like I'm not fucking saying they should forcibly send them to them if they don't want them, but it's not impossible that they didn't get everything they wanted from the storage and imo an offer should be made to venus regarding them
>>277824considering how heavily auntie zsu has been laying on the burns, I highly doubt that it would succeed
like even ferenz has been mostly taking venus' side, they're not blind to the world
I think she's more likely to try to make her own life in switzerland by pretending to be relevant somehow, and then most likely failing
No. 277828
>>277357Margaret Palermo: person who covers daughter's ears… but is herself the one who doesn't listen.
#lol
No. 277830
>>277361A medal for the anon (or one of her stupid fans) who convinced Marpoo to lose her time in North America… and to lose her money.
#IQminus152
No. 277835
>>277834Kek at walnut. sorry anon I thought you were one of the anons literally talking about getting the stuff.
I still think the idea of sending things Venus chose to leave behind back to her is dumb and potentially creepy.
No. 277837
>>277514What goes around, comes around.
#karma
No. 277867
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>>277851Ausfag and I see this:
No. 277870
>>277844THEY
DON'T
WANT
MARGO'S
SHIT
BACK
EVEN IF IT IS VENUS'S, THEY CLEARLY DON'T FUCKING WANT THAT STUFF ANYMORE, OTHERWISE THEY COULD TOOK IT FROM STORAGE BEFORE GIVING THE KEY TO MARGO
how damn difficult is to understand that?
No. 277872
>>277870this so much.
They want to finally move on with this entire situation and I bet venus doesn't want her old weeb clothes back.
Leave them alone.
No. 277893
File: 1465324898741.jpg (488.56 KB, 985x1193, Screenshot_2016-06-07-14-09-49…)
Princesspotato's response to my comment about telling her about Margothel's past drama with youtubers and the interviews.
Apparently despite all this shit we're supposed to protect Margothel's precious fee fees and not leave any "hateful" comments.
~~Guys let's all pretend none of that icky stuff happened in the past and that Margos a great person now and leave nice comments under her wonderful flower pics uwu~~
No. 277894
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Not really relevant I guess? But I love aunt Zsuzsa last updates. Here's her new IG bio.
No. 277896
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>>277894And here's her las post. On your face, maggot.
No. 277900
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>>277894Can't imagine what it must have been like to grow up with margo, Aunt zsuzsa's seen some shit.
No. 277907
>>277564…it's the same woman from the article, dude. I'm not going around asking random journalists if they wanna follow this case. all I asked was, "could you possibly update this?" and she said she'll think about it since she hasn't followed it since her last interaction with Venus. idc if journalists aren't crusaders of truth lmao. besides, that woman used PULL, the instagram hash tag #prayforvenus, and ED as sources. I'm pretty sure she wouldn't mind sifting through lolcow.
>>277552you're right, it isn't. didn't affect things when it was first published, doubt it would if it was updated.
No. 277909
>>277907anon from
>>277552Uh, I was being sarcastic in my post
Seriously,why do you want to add more fuel to the fire? That stupid journalist can't be serious if she's using ED and PULL as sources lmao let alone taking lolcow as source too.
>ANONYMOUSE MAKING DEATH THREATS AND PLOTTING TO STEAL MARGARET PALERMO BELONGINGS!!!1! jeez we already discussed several times to not get others involved in the drama. Keemstar rings a bell for you?
No. 277922
>>276516>>277917Margo is the voice of our generation.
She has IQ 157 and is lawyer, manager and the original VENOOOSSSSS Angelic.
No. 277923
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>>277867>>277875Anon, what this says is that any legal disputes on YT are subject to the laws of Santa Clara County, CA and any legal proceedings must take place in the courts there. (That's why marglob 'had to' go to the US.)
The privacy link is a separate issue- that says 'these TOS together with the privacy policy at [link] constitute the entire
agreement between you and Youtube.'
Are you in AUS? I'm in the US and this is what I see (attached pic) Maybe the privacy policy varies in different countries but all other legal issues fall under the jurisdiction of Santa Clara county, CA.
link to TOS:
https://www.youtube.com/t/terms No. 277926
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>>277923Not the same anon but I am in the UK and it says under 14. General that the terms are governed by English law, pic related.
I guess Margo saw the U.S. version then.
No. 277928
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>>277923Version seen by me:
>> 14.6>> ruled by british law>> UK No. 277949
>>277926Ohhh, okay. Interesting! So this pretty much confirms the marglob has no clue how to go about this (very complex) legal procedure. Nor does she have an atty or anyone with legal expertise advising her. All she has is Google & she's not even smart enough to do that properly.
Maybe that's what set her off.. she travelled all the way to the US only to be told that as an EU citizen her lawsuit had to be filed in the EU/Switzerland.
SHE WASTED A TRIP TO THE US BECAUSE SHE HAS NO FUCKING CLUE WHAT SHE'S DOING. No wonder she's mad.
BWAHAHAHA margoooo
No. 277969
>>277657>Yes, Margo obviously went to Santa Clara Court to get it rollingDoesn't show as filed here:
http://www.scscourt.org/online_services/case_info.shtmlIt would have to be under "civil".
https://cmportal.scscourt.org/PortalAnd the only one with a Margaret Palermo is this one:
https://cmportal.scscourt.org/Portal/Home/WorkspaceMode?p=0Which is from 2002 and is something about someone's estate..
So, she never filed anything in Santa Clara..
No. 277974
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>>277652Babby's first foray into philosophy
No. 277981
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Between the fucked up preteens, lonely babbies, and … things like this, mags really has a squad as fucked as she is. This person is on her side because they're a self admitted manipulative child, so there fire venus is like them obviously? And no, asshole, mist people don't assess any situation with an eye to how it will benefit them first and foremost.
No. 277983
>>277969Anon, I bet she tried but it was rejected bc wrong jurisdiction → ragefest & whining about 'it's sooo expensive/youtube tells me to do things I can't afford waaahhhh'
I mean it's all conjecture at this point.
No. 277989
>>277983or
"my evil daughter took everything from me take my case to the court I'll pay the lawsuit expenses later"
No. 277994
>>276809Okay but with this comment….
Does anyone remember when Mister Yan posted his statement about Venus? The exact same thing; her being able to cry when convenient then stop, and being manipulative in the exact same ways maggot it saying. I feel like since her mom is such a sociopath she adopted a lot of the issues, honestly.
No. 278007
>>277994It's called fleas.
"Fleas - narcissistic-like behaviour traits displayed by a non-narcissist, generally learned behaviours from having been raised by a narcissist and not knowing what is normal for the situation."
http://narcissistschild.blogspot.com/p/npd-glossary.html?m=1 No. 278029
>>277909Duh, that's why I said it probably won't make any difference if it was updated. Again:
>all I asked was, "could you possibly update this?"There's literally no one getting involved in the drama. Keemstar is a different case as he associates with and supports abusers i.e Greg. That idiot who contacted him initially did it of her own accord against the wishes of the board (and with little info), if you will. I asked the question, and gave the anon an answer. Nothing bad is going to happen because an inquiry was made wtf. I don't even see how these situations are comparable if one is obviously on Venus' side.
No. 278041
>>278038Forgot to add, quoting you from your previous posts:
>idc if journalists aren't crusaders of truth lmao.
>I believe a wide public reaction could help to finally stop Marglot and prevent her from further poisoning her daughter's life and taking her channel downThen you don't fucking care about what they report, as long as you satisfy your stirring shit needs? nice! with that
wide public reaction you crave so much the only thing you'll achieve is Margaret going full psycho on Venus.
No. 278049
>>278047Saying that Venus may at some point have exhibited some strange behaviour doesn't make someone a "minion".
Quit reaching, you'll strain something.
No. 278052
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The bitch's eating fine.
No. 278055
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>>276516So, quite curious, but it seems Venus's channel is sort of up? Her channel says no content but i can access the videos through my recommendations bar. Date says two days ago too. Maybe Youtube is finally making up its mind.
No. 278056
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No. 278066
>>278055most likely a reuploader
YT has verified account marks iirc
No. 278071
>>278055>>278056>>278066Ironically, this person should have copyright claims made against them by Venus. This person's either being daft or being a thief.
Someone else has had a mirror up of the 'how I ran away from home' video but that's more of a public service.
No. 278147
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She's such a shit photographer.
No. 278167
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Was I the only one who bursted into laughter after seeing this?
No. 278172
>>278167Bless the anons that just lurk, so people like me can see this bit.
This is hilarious.
No. 278199
>>278038>don't get Keemstar involved, he's notorious for fudging information>why isn't there media coverage?Sure they're the same. Lmao, this wasn't done out of good intentions or whatever, it was literally to answer a question.
>>278041…I don't care if she updates it or not. Yeah, I don't give a fuck about your "insider info" in journalism. It was irrelevant to what I was saying so yes, I didn't and still don't care.
>I believe a wide public reaction could help to finally stop Marglot and prevent her from further poisoning her daughter's life and taking her channel downThis was in none of my posts. Dunno what you're trying to get at.
Again,
>>278043 nothing happened when this article was published at the start of this, so what effect would it have now
if it was updated?
No. 278218
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so looks like no court case just more claims? poor Venus, I wonder why they told her she was protected
No. 278221
>>278218Man, I'd be pissed as fuck at Youtube. Tell her not to worry, get her hopes up, and then Margo comes back with SEVENTY FUCKING CLAIMS? JESUS CHRIST.
She just needs to have Manaki create a channel or something. It took a month+ to get her channel back from 20ish videos being reported. She's going to be off of youtube for the whole summer at that rate :/
No. 278231
>>278226She probably just kept reporting videos until the channel got taken down. So yes, I think eventually she will just cycle through each and every video everytime the channel comes back.
At 70+ claims, I feel like Youtube probably had to do something. They really can't ignore that staggering amount of DMCA take down notices.
No. 278234
>>278218iirc like that one anon said, Youtube's "protection" program isn't protection from any and all copyright claims, but against claims from a specific user account? Margo probably used another account (or several even) to submit the additional claims.
>>278226I feel like that's giving Margo too much credit. If she was smart about gaming the system she wouldn't have hit 70 all at once this time. That seems more like something done on impulse out of rage (probably after her failure to file a lawsuit).
Youtube's system is pretty broken so it's hard to say if they'll actually do anything about it. On the bright side, Margo isn't a large corporation with lots of money so they're probably less likely to give a shit about her at least.
No. 278237
>>278235But what would stop Margo reporting Manaki's videos with some falsified proof anyway?
It's all hopeless.
No. 278238
>>278218She says 'I could make a new channel if I ask a third person to create a channel where I can appear in the videos'!!
Sounds like YT maybe just got around to notifying her this was allowed? (The YT wheels grind slooowlyyy) New (temporary) channel coming??
Go Venus! Slay with the cute! Hehe margoblin gonna be pissed
No. 278240
>>278237i doubt it would be reportable if she appears in another video, maybe with just the name Venus, using copyrighted free music and stuff like that.
she could use it as backup channel, like bigger Youtubers and the Vlog channels or smth like that
No. 278243
>>278237Absolutely nothing.
>>278240Once again, the DMCA claim process is automated. Takedowns happen before anything is verified or even looked at by a human being. Yes, filing false DMCA claims illegal but I seriously doubt Margo cares especially considering how not worthwhile pursuing her for legal action would be.
No. 278252
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>>278147God damn .. every time she post pictures of flowers I get flashes of….
No. 278276
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No. 278325
>>278207This is what you attract when you post reams of this irrelevant shit:
>>277893>>277981>>277678>>277676These fuckwits are talking about us constantly in comments and posting shit like this is not only a waste of time, it attracts them.
Stick to when Margo is actually involved.
No. 278333
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Margo goes right in on the level of stalking she did with the landlady, blabs about Manaki's wages and admits she is fantasising about Venus' new and higher income.
No. 278335
>>278333First of all, the landlord MIGHT know Manaki's salary (some rentals require pay stubs to prove you can get a lease.) The rest? Okay, Margles. You had a detailed conversation - in Japanese? - with your daughter's landlord, who happens to know a huge amount of detailed info about how much your daughter makes per month on YouTube? File this under "shit that has never and will never happen". Margo's one of those self centerd pricks who thinks if someone is silent while she scretches, they have agreed with her every word - and in Mags' case, she also seems to have imaginary interactions where the person not only agrees with her, they supply her with the imaginary shit Mags wants to hear.
Also, why does this dumb bitch think Venus is making any money at all right now? And why does she keep mentioning the bonus. Note to Margo: THAT MONEY IS GONE. You took away Venus's only income source months ago; they've had to use that money to live. You won't get it "back" (not that it was ever yours.)
No. 278336
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sitting on IG arguing her case with a 12-year-old.
>it's MY money!
and more proJECTION
>VEENOOS manipulating you little girls!
Keep digging, marggg. Lol
No. 278382
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No. 278411
>>278382This azlabyrinth guy is some middle-aged American loser who made an IG account to suck up to maggot. Sounds like they've been DMing back & forth bc that's what she does to get sympathy & 'allies'
He's trying to sound like some kinda legal expert but is talking out his ass. Thinks YT is negotiating some kind of settlement or business deal w/maggot over how much she's owed for her part of the "business." LOL this is about copyright you tool, whether Venus's videos were copyrighted by Margaret Palermo or not. Yes or no. There's no 'negotiations' over earnings, moron. Unless maggot goes out & hires herself an attorney, and that would be a whole separate case (and long & complicated & very expensive.)
No. 278418
>>278414Uhhh it technically does, what your stating to be not the point is Margaret's argument. Marg said that because she made the channel, came up with the video ideas, and probably held the camera for some she has a right to copyright
her videos (her words not mine).
If you're saying that the argument is whether or not the Marglodon was the one to copyright 70+ videos, it's kinda obvious she did (the first time), the second its technically is her since she decided to open a case.
No. 278422
>>278396Really? I never saw that. But it's still highly unusual and unprofessional for a long-term foreign resident, who should know and have adapted to Japanese culture, to spill the beans like that. He never met Margaret before. How could he just believe she is mother of a girl he supposedly never saw? What if she had been a crazed fan or an jealous ex-lover of Manaki? And then to have a meeting with her, going over personal documents and totally violating their privacy? That is just insanity.
In Margaret's Japanese stories, either everyone agrees with her, or they want her body.
No. 278428
>>278278An obvious troll.
>>278333>venus has a job that earns her $3000Bitch that job is her youtube channel, how is even Margo so dense as to think that Venus has another job at the moment? Uploading 3x a week when we know it takes her over an hour to film a simple lip tutorial and then the time it takes to edit an hour of footage? Bitch, she has no time to have another job if she's doing that more than three times a week.
No. 278432
Also, I do hate to play the devil's advocate, but I to believe that Margo was entitled to some sort of money.
There's no doubt that, when Venus blew up, Margo handled a lot of the press stuff initially. That's just the reality of it. However, if there was no written contract then she was just a helper and has no legal entitlement to any money.
Can she claim copyright?
No.
If Venus filmed the videos (which she did, proof: period video), then she is the owner of all content. If she edited the videos (proof: multiple IG selfies) then she owns it.
If this hit the court, and Margo had a decent lawyer, they could argue that she has entitlement to some sort of pay settlement if there wasn't proof she hadn't spent the amount of money she was entitled to (here's a hint: she did)
Basically, whatever she was entitled to, Margo wasted and she's full of it, BUT she was entitled to something because I have no doubt that she had to play manager for a while.
No. 278436
>>278418???
I'm not talking about the point of maggot's fucking argument. I know what she's said. I'm talking about the reality of what she's trying to claim: namely that the videos were/are copyrighted by her.
And it's more than kinda obvious that she did NOT have a copyright for the first batch she claimed since she let the claims expire without taking legal action.
She has not 'opened a case' this time either- she's filed claims. Filing copyright claims does not = taking legal action nor does it = copyrighting anything.
No. 278438
>>278429Thank you!
But it's still very strange and that Marglish is killing me. If a tenant is troublesome or concerning, you either call the police or evict them. You don't passively gossip to random gaijin. Unless Manaki is using his cruel brainwashing techniques on them too. And Venus' psychopathy, of course.
No. 278448
>>278134Yeah she's trying to sing "opera" and funny enough that's how her sister sings. Then she responds "not really just in my free time"
Right
No. 278450
>>278449Hence why 'the ONLY pastebin is in op'
aka. no there's no full pastbin.
No. 278466
>>278432No she isn't. She lived off venus' income for years, she never worked. She got more money than she was ever entitled to. You think if a teenager had that much money they wouldn't be blowing it on pointless shit? Why is it that Venus loved Lolita fashion but could only ever seem to buy bodyline (except for that tacky angelic pretty dress) despite making €3,000 a month as margo claimed? Margo had full control over all finances and probably only gave her a small portion of it (if any! she probably had to ask permission if she ever wanted to spend her money). Kinda like people who steal old people's pensions and pocket like €200 but give the old person €20. I definitely imagine this kind of a scenario taking place.
Not to mention, Venus paid for her entire living expenses (rent, food, bills, personal shopping) for how many years? Margo never contributed at all. She is entitled to nothing,
No. 278481
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>>278428margs
got told that V is
currently working as hostess AND still earning 15 grand from YT…even when her channel has been down for months hahaha
No. 278486
>>278333So Venus is making a fortune each month, yet she wears the same clothes she left in Japan from before, Manaki has a equally small wardrobe, she has the same old cell phone, they go to value family restaurants or the food court at the mall, they have a single nice car, and their house is sparsely decorated.
They look comfortable and can travel once in a while, but hardly a luxurious lifestyle. I wouldn't be surprised if they stay at his parents' house often so they can save money on utilities and food. They look like can't even go regularly to the salon for decent haircuts. What happened to all the extra money, Margaret? Are they hoarding it or is Manaki funneling it into a sex-reassignment surgery account? Where could that money have gone?
No. 278506
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Nuehle is a Venus supporter.
FYI is this youtuber a lolcow or a lurker here? I'm wondering where she's getting keeps getting her screenprints and information from. Maybe PULL
No. 278544
>>278505And do you think "European" laws allow a minor to give away their whole income in exchange for some half-assed "management"? Answer is no.
This will never go to court since venus mother has shit all but any judge would tear margot a new asshole.
No. 278556
>>278544And where did I say it's ok for anyone doing that?
anon was asking about if it is illegal for US laws, Margo and Venus aren't US citizens nor lived in there,US laws aren't universal.
Calm your tits.
No. 278621
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>>278485Yeah, maggot is fucking clueless. She thought in her garbled mind that jvlogger Micaela's YT channel was some kind of MCN, like Fullscreen. LOL
She's dumb as a rock and lazy too. Remember those emails with tha Fullscreen guy where she was like "oh sorry I'm late again, teehee. what was it you wanted to discuss again?"
No. 278659
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Trouble will come.
No. 278766
>>278756WOW. Ticker tape parade! I don't care about the vids it's just a matter of justice.
So Youtube didn't totally lie about the protection and they have instigated? Or did Venus make an agreement to pay Maggot money (less likely and I hope not)
No. 278768
>>278756Well at least it wasn't down as long as it was before.
Bring it hard, Venus-chan
No. 278774
>>278772I see it at the usual place:
https://www.youtube.com/user/venusangelicMight be a caching thing that not every user can see it now. Try refreshing or try clicking through from her shortlink in insta.
No. 278779
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I wonder if all the videos that look broken are those that had strikes put against them, or if it's just a generic glitch?
No. 278780
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>>278779weird that you're seeing that
No. 278787
>>278785can't be sure of that.
but in margo's mind she owns it all, even the new stuff.
No. 278798
>>278795must be hey…
unless she gave margo a payout which would be foolish.
No. 278803
>>278801If the channel is still down she would be 'avoiding a ban' which would get her a permanent youtube ban.
Also 'reinventing' yourself isnt like this montage magical movie shit where you can just go out get a haircut and become a different person.
Also Venus has said making videos is something she enjoys doing. Especially after leaving Margo I've been liking her videos more and more so why should she drop that and then have to struggle to try and make a living in a country that she isnt fluent in the language.
I really dont understand what's so hard to get. Do you have no passion in your life that's worth fighting for? The amount of people who are just like 'omg isnt this too much trouble' sound like the laziest pieces of shit jfc.
No. 278805
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Marg tried to copyright strike someone on YouTube for making a video about her
No. 278808
>>278801Now that her channel is back up, Venus has this choice.
But when her channel came up briefly before this, Venus expressed how much joy the channel brings her. If she didn't enjoy the work, sure delete and hide. But it's her job, it's her business she has worked for and what she loves. Venus shouldn't have to abandon her work and life due to the actions of a clearly abusive parent. It would only fuck up her life more than it is. Should a student drop out of university for the same reason? No if they don't absolutely have to.
No. 278809
>>278756subscribed, b/c each sub is like a boot up maggot's ass
never was much of a Venus fan, but I watch some vids out of boredom and they were kinda…sad. Especially the one where she's defending accusations from her mother.
No. 278826
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Mags claims to be in Beijing. Just when venus's channel comes back. Likely story.
No. 278832
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Not in china
No. 278839
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Dropped pic
No. 278853
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Koncz family bringing the fire. Something tells me mags hasn't been offered houseroom in Switzerland nor Hungary.
No. 278854
>>278850yeah I get what you mean.
but let's be real as well, she has had control of her location information since the tokyo airbnb debacle. we are always a week or so late.
No. 278855
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No. 278860
>>278826What in the everloving FUCK does this caption even mean???
"I have no idea what I'm doing but duck and french fries will do and this drink is undefined but I will drink it"
huh??
No. 278863
>>278860She has no idea what she is doing… With english.
I think she complaining because she cant understand Chinese and has no idea what she is ordering.
No. 278865
>>278855They're Borzoi (russian wolfhounds) Gorgeous dogs. There's a video of them running on her IG. It's an incredible breed, they run like the wind.
I wish V would get in touch w/Auntie Zsu. She seems like a really cool person with a great life, husband & kids, travels a lot, loves to hike and be outdoors. No pics of her house but the yard is beautiful, I think they have $$. Plus she knows the score about crazyfuck marggg.
Do it, venus!
No. 278870
>>278862hashtagged #yes #yesman
?????
fucking loony bitch
No. 278877
>>278874I think Margo is under the impression that Youtube will cater to all of her false reports no matter what, instead of realising it's a lost cause now that Venus is officially on their list of channels that will not be affected by such reports as she stated in her recent video.
Bless, she's so dense and pathetic, with the only thing but money on her mind she can't see the light & notice that she has lost. She'll never get her own way now. Or that 3k a month. Wishful thinking bitch.
No. 278894
>>2788913PM
She may be uploading a video now and it's processing
No. 278897
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margs hasn't got a $ from Venus
No. 278908
>>278904It's the most likely scenario. It's the world's cheapest long hauls to Europe on those cheap chinese airlines. Mega layovers too, like a day.
I'm impressed she still has any money, she's quite the hustler do not do a stitch of work for 5 months. YT must pay better than I thought.
No. 278910
>>278897this is juicy info.
isn't the point of 'legal aid' that you don't have to pay? maybe because she's a foreigner they ask a $5000 flat fee.
No. 278928
>>278859Venus acted just perfectly during this whole debacle. She never once (ok maybe once or twice) stooped at her mom's level or attacked her. She kept quiet and worked behind the scenes to get her channel back twice.
I'm sure she won't fall for any of her mom shit and will stay away as much as she can.
Now I doubt Margo's battle is over as she'll soon face the prospect of having to /gasp/ settle for an entry-level job and she won't ever accept working long hours for a meager pay. She'll be lucky to get 1200€/month in Europe considering she hasn't worked in years.
Plus she could have some troubles if she tried to come back to the UK considering she tried to evade taxes and you don't really fuck with taxes (funny how she considers Venus videos and money HER money but as soon as taxes problems arises, she'll probably say it's all Venus fault and they should go after her)
Unfortunately Venus hasn't seen the end of this as Margaret probably won't ever stop harassing her and guilt-trip her if she ends up homeless.
No. 278931
>>278333>>278897
>$5000 Korean school money>$5000 for legal aidMore fun w/random fantasy numbers.
Also- that Korean school refund she 'organised' was for what, one semester? What language school charges that?
And $5000 for "legal aid"– a retainer for a lawyer in the US is like $800 so I have no idea how she came up with that one. Oh yeah I do…the same place the YT income of $15,000/month came from. The dark recesses of maggot's twisted brain.
No. 278950
>>278938probably best not to poke the bear. leave that option till later if needed.
unlike Maggot who has blown her load mass-reporting slabs of videos instead of just doing 5 at a time.
No. 278957
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More astounding photography. Margo is suspiciously calm.
No. 278979
>>278978and she has proof! it was all editing.
but seriously. margo would really waste her time in a court.
No. 278991
>>278977Thinking about it, Venus goes on about how cute her presents are and how much she loves them but I have never seen a pic of her wearing/using them.
If I got a gift like shoes, gloves or a bag that I loved I would post pictures when I wore/used them
No. 279005
>>278962The video was funny.
im going to be slightly off topic now, that thing actually works?!? Her face does look slimer after. It's temporary I'm sure, but I was just as surprised as she was at the end
No. 279037
>>279032No because it's only dumbfucks from PULL who even care if Venus cheated.
Which as
>>279022 said she didnt because Margo admitted to staging it. If you give a shit enough to care if Venus cheated then keep the fuck up with the thread. I barely check it once a week and I know this shit.
No. 279040
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No. 279053
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How to English?
No. 279069
>>279031uhm no. Her mom tried to claim she was a sociopath/psychopath .
killing animals, stealing, etc are traits that children with psychopathic tendencies do.
No. 279071
>>279069but as anon said it does't sound believable in comparison.
can e forget this?
No. 279075
>>278962Peanut is at least a month old conception.
She also sounds like fucking Jenna Marbles.
I like it.
No. 279109
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>>278977Venus looks so much like a small sister of Doe Deere here.
No. 279117
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>>279090Went through her IG and found a photo of her wearing the bag only
twice. It's definetly something that's not her style. I also found a photo of Mags looking an awful lot like the psycho mom from Carrie on there.
No. 279144
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Margo tried to make her wear so many different styles over the years that only she thought suited her daughter. Eastern European Hooker seems to be the bitch's favorite. I'm so glad Venus has gone back to her kawaii fashion, the thought of her dressing like her mother is frightening.
No. 279162
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>>278839Looks like that one:
No. 279167
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>>279151Probably all of it. The only "mature" outfit that she bought with Venus' money that looked great on her is this blue one
>>279117 Anyway, a photo of maggot ironically looking like Margaret White (aka the crazy mother from Carrie)
No. 279176
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>>279167The storyline for Carrie is essentially Venus and Margaret's anyway eerily enough. Apeshit mother, trapped daughter and shit hit the fan eventually.
No. 279181
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oh for fuck sake
No. 279221
>>279215>>279213How many times does it need to be said
You cannot make new accounts/sockpuppets to file DMCAs since DMCAs need to be filed with your actual details. So you also can't ban her from doing it, either. Once she has put a claim through though, she can't claim it again on that video (thank god).
No. 279236
>>279232I couldn't remember if it was 60 or 70 so I lowballed it. Either way, she's gone through almost half the videos she had any ability to report on, and the channel comes back faster each time.
My guess is that when margo went mega rage and report 60+ videos, she assumed that if reporting 20 videos took venus down for 8 weeks, tripling the reports would triple the down time. She's not very smart.
No. 279238
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Interesting. One of the 4 accounts followed by @margaretpalermofan; the others are either mags' socks or her pre teen minions'. Looks like Margo is seeking another weeaboo target further down the totem pole.
No. 279240
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And @flattened.flowers is using the word "wrongdoings" But the engrish isn't poor enough to be margo. (Photo from @margaretpalermofan
No. 279278
>>279207>>279203This is a fair point anon. let's say she reported them in blocks day after day. We know the first time she claimed the channel got locked for a day or so before termination. Each claim has to be processed on a cycle that takes the same amount of time, so the channel going up/down as they are processed makes some sense at least. YT cannot simply dismiss the claims, they have to accept them and act on them because of the DCMA.
But I am buoyed by the fact the termination was lifted so fast last time. That means YT are giving Venus' channel some special attention and lifting the bans fast. There's a finite limit to how long Margo can do this (I hope).
At least we know she wasn't paid off by Venus. Good one!!!
No. 279279
>>279267Margo hasn't "worked" since Venus dumped, so no she has nothing better to do.
About the protection thing, obviously it hasn't been true in Venus case. Due to the DCMA they can't really say a channel is free from the rules. Perhaps what they are doing is acting on lifting the terminations very quickly. The first time was 8 weeks which is normal, the last time was unusually short. Venus didn't announce the return so I guess YT told her more claims were coming in and would be processed.
No. 279281
>>279279>Due to the DCMA they can't really say a channel is free from the rules.Okay, it's not that all websites have to follow the DMCA, it's that they have to follow it if they want to be granted safe harbour, that is not be held responsible for the content uploaded to their site.
They can ignore DMCA claims if they accept responsibility for the content they upload, which I believe is the protection granted to certain channels i.e. ones already monetized as the monetization rules would protect youtube by preventing the user uploading anything untoward.
No. 279284
>>279281>>279283Yeah but YT's not gonna throw safe harbour out on Venus' behalf. Emotions do not get to rule in this situation.
What's disappointing to see is the way YT terminates the channel after multiple strikes. Is that draconian measure really required by the DCMA I wonder or is purely YT internal policy (I can't find evidence). Surely
that is the part they could exempt Venus from; leave her channel up with certain videos down while those ones are being disputed. The repeated terminations show YTs general policy on this to be… ass.
Anyway, no wonder Maggot was so calm. Satan-loving nutbag that she is. Rock on you evil bitch.
No. 279290
>>279181FUCK YOU MARGO
FUCK
YOU
No. 279307
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The mange rat got her nails did. Thinks she's stylin but her cuticles are crusty, those nails are sloppily done and her fingers look fucking dirty.
Try again, mange
No. 279363
>>279360You are one dumb bitch. I'm not paying for a subscription to a VPN when I don't even have access to my desktop computer for the other reasons I have a VPN.
It won't get far at all, but it would be nice to give Maggot a dose of her own medicine. Fuck right back off to pull if you don't think she's deserving of that.
No. 279377
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So tired of Maggot's shit.
I just want that bitch to gtfo the internet in general, it's not even funny anymore
No. 279381
>>279376I'm just saying, people have actually mentioned having VPNs in these threads before. I just don't understand why they haven't tried.
Does anyone know what happened here
>>278805 though? Is this what a protected channel sees, or is it just what happens when an entirely unbased claim is made? In which case doing this would be pointless unless you can find the original ukelele player she used in hatersong.
No. 279383
>>279382Why would Venus make fake copywright claims and actually give Margo proof, since she would probably go through her actual channel, use her real address etc.
I don't think V is devious enough to go the backwards route and, if she did, we wouldn't hear about it as V having done it, jut her 'fans'.
No. 279385
>>278319>>278801>>278803>>278874>>279016Sage for OT, can we just ignore slowpoke retards asking same dumb questions in every fucking thread?
Black list:
- Why not create another channel?
- Wasn't V's channel protected?
- Didn't Marge admit she faked V's cheating? And everything related to this subject
etc.
I'm getting really fucking tired of scrolling down because of the retards who don't bother to read the thread and constantly shit it up with exact same questions. And those who kindly reply to them instead of telling those lazy fucks to bother to read the fucking thread.
Like, seriously, can we just ignore them?? It would be very appreciated.
No. 279387
>>279386OP Should always say read the previous thread.
All that needs to be noted is that V cannot make a new channel and to stop asking.
No. 279388
>>279386>>279387Op is linked to the previous thread and also has a copy-paste of the YT rules. Next OP can/should make it even more clear. Problem is, people don't read.
>>279385Agree, it's time to start ignoring these questions.
No. 279398
>>279385We are talking about when her channel is back up so she can legally do it.
I don't see how asking why she can't make a back account ASAP once the claims are cleared is anyway similar to people asking why can she make one now when her channel is still down.
We are not retards becouse you got confused. Chill anon they are 2 completely different questions.
No. 279400
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Is the channel fully down?
Her channel still shows up if you search for it
No. 279405
>>279391They can't - they don't own any content in the videos.
You realise she's long gone from China right? She's not "travelling" anymore.
No. 279408
>>279405You don't have to own the content to make a vexatious complaint. People could still make a malicious claim with no basis - it would still
trigger a takedown while it is verified. The investigation would find there was nothing in it and restore the videos but by then the damage is done.
No. 279413
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>>279410she definitely landed in germany anyway. pic for posterity.
No. 279432
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:( #youlovedher #weusedtohavegoodtimes
No. 279439
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No. 279440
>>279436Who says Venus doesn't talk to them? Venus just doesn't address them publicly. They're clearly emphasizing with Venus so it might due to Venus pleading her case with them. Of course they know Margo best which is why they took V's side.
Anyways
>>279385Why doesn't someone create a decent summary in the next thread? No one is going to an old thread with old milk and scrolling through tons of "omg, my mom is so much like Margo" posts to get to some practical assessments of what's going on.
No. 279454
>>279440There is a difference between talking to someone online and actually seeing them in person. I dunno about you but sometimes I like to actually be able to hug my family and talk face to face.
I wasn't saying she wasn't communicating, just that maybe once things settle she might go visit them and get to know her family that Margo held her back from.
No. 279465
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>>279439Ferenc strikes again kek
No. 279492
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The maggot has landed? Who the fuck knows.
No. 279495
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More from after her comment about being in Germany
No. 279507
>>279422>>279426She won't get welfare easily anymore.
Due to the recent influx of refugees things have become a lot more strict and if you're not already a German citizen or an actual refugee it's not as easy anymore.
They might give her benefits she'll have to work for though but i am unsure how she'd like that.
Because that basically means you're doing a shitty service job for your benefits
No. 279513
>>279507Then hat is she going to do??
She has family there right?
No. 279527
>>279520She's always been paranoid about her dad for no good reason. First it was that he was a crazy cultists Jesus freak who brainwashed people (sound familiar?) Then it was that he was going to take down Venus's channel because it was evil and was going to take all of the profits for himself (where have we seen someone do this?) And now she's afraid he'll section her, which he has no power to do; there's no country I can think of where you can force and adult to get mental health treatment without their consent if they cannot be proven an IMMEDIATE danger to themselves or others- and it has to be a direct, clear, verbal threat like "I'm going to kill or beat you / I'm going to kill myself". Margo is a paranoid headcase who projects like a mofo.
That said, I'm sure her father has encouraged her to get help more than once, and the family seems to have taken a hard line of limited contact and no support until margo gets help. But with her paranoia, margo sees this as evidence of their abuse of her and their brainwashing plans. Bitch is legit crazy.
No. 279528
>>279507Not only has it become harder, but paperwork will take much, much longer. Margo will have to wait months until her case is settled. Since she is not top priority I doubt her paperwork would be done soon; and even without the refugee crisis it could have taken quite a while until she actually recieved benefits.
>>279512Somehow people are under the impression Germany is just throwing loads and loads of cash in any direction, but usually it is quite hard to get welfare - and to stay on that welfare as well. You will have to do quite a bit of work, like writing a certain amount of applications, they might force you to do job trainings and if you deny a job offer, they might deny you acertain amount or your whole welfare. I think it would be too much effort for Margo, she is too busy dealing with the haters on IG.
No. 279531
>>279530Doesn't the UK make it harder for EU citizens to apply for welfare now (not that she could go back, bc taxes)? Also, did she get welfare immediately after entering the country? I cannot imagine it can be that easy.
But I also wouldn't be suprised a leech wothout shame like Margo knows how to game the system. But I hope she gtfo of my country, we don't need her here.
No. 279532
>>279530Yes but she lived and in the beginning worked there.
She only just now walked into germany
It's not the same
No. 279544
>>279534Ooohh okay yeah perhaps she'd be up for it but i think she's more tempted to leech from Venus and sit on her arse all day.
Maybe she's going to try to settle in Germany and get her stuff from Holland to help her start up?
No. 279584
>>279559>>279571Funny how nobody seemed to be
triggered by the eleven billion 'How to look like a French girl/be French' articles and videos in the past save for a few retards trying to sound smart by pointing out wrong grammar on Tshirts.
I don't see how this is any different.
No. 279598
>>279544I doubt Margo is ever going to accept working a low class job like working at Lidl or mopping some floors. She expects 3000€ a month and doing a video once in a while, not busting her ass off, receiving minimum wage and paying crazy taxes. Plus she probably won't even get help anymore as Venus doesn't even live with her.
She'll probably try to fuck over Venus as much as she can until her bank account truly dies up, then she'll try to find someone to scam. What is scary is that other people have no idea how deep the rabbit hole goes with her crazyness.
>>279527I still can't believe no one in this world can tolerate her toxic ass and SHE DOESN'T EVEN REALISE IT. Her family is utterly disappointed in her. She got divorced super quickly. She had a boyfriend who left her ass quite quickly and she promptly blamed him like she blamed Manaki after Venus' breakup. Her own freaking daughter fucking ran away and wants nothing to do with her.
She's literally alone and yet she's convinced she's in the right. Truly terrific. I hope to never be as delusional as this bitch. I've seen people in mental hospital who were doing better than her.
No. 279648
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So she's somewhere in the EU and feeling all smug & full of herself. Remember last time she was like this, all cute & mysterious on IG? It was when she flew to Vancouver with a halfbaked Plan to GET VENOOS by filing a lawsuit in the US. Only she's batshit crazy and dumb as a rock and didn't realize it was the WRONG JURISDICTION.
So she slunk back to SK and raged for a few days… and now she's on the move & feeling sassy again. She has a Plan B, I'm sure of it. She's as transparent as glass and so easy to read it's laughable.
My guess: she thinks she can initiate another lawsuit in the EU and get legal aid to pay for it. Then boom, channel down again and HA VENOOS TOLD YOU I'D GET YOU!
She has what she thinks is "proof" of a written contract between her & Venus, giving her legal "rights" to the videos, lol:
No. 279655
>>279646No, if in Germany she can still get Hartz IV (basic welfare) for six months. This from last year:
http://www.thelocal.de/20150915/ecj-germany-can-deny-foreigners-hartz-iv"Tuesday's ruling means that EU citizens living in Germany will now only be able to collect Hartz IV – an unemplyment benefit of €399 a month – for a period of six months."
No. 279693
>>279687Berlin is cheap af compared to other major cities; I know a lot of people headed there because the rent, etc is so cheap (if you're willing to live in an old eastern block apartment building especially).
Mags, with her "growing up in communism" will be right at home in old east berlin.
No. 279715
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Aww, did maggot lose a mark?
No. 279716
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Wow. Grooming much, margo? "They tell you lies. Always respect adults, except when they lie. I NEVER lie, little one…"
No. 279731
>>279693Tbh idk how they are in Germany but here in southeastern Europe gommieblocks are actually rather nice aside from shitty soundproofing. I grew up in one and it's really just like any other flat, then again we technically never were commies so it could be worse in Germany.
They're usually cheap too, so considering where Margo used to live she might like it.
No. 279734
>>279653>>279658adding to this, over oceans and over certain places air space they also do not offer internet. I assume china wouldnt allow it in their air space.
She could have been using wifi in other airports as a layover but there should be a few hours of silence in between
No. 279736
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>never called Venus a mistake
Let the lies pour in, Margoyle
No. 279737
>>279736 No, she called her child an accident (margo gets very bitchy about the EXACT syntax between accident and mistake, somehow she thinks saying accident is better.)
The "accident" remark came in a big ball of marglish wherein she mocked venus for crying and saying having their heavy dog wriggle.out of her arms was an accident, and then said the real accident was Venus herself.
Charming woman.
No. 279764
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>>279749Margot's getting a little stressy again.
No. 279775
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Paranoia is peaking again.
No. 279805
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(I can't be the only one who thinks the new Final Fantasy character Lid resembles Venus, right?)
Margaret keeps building up Venus in to this almost otherworldly evil character, while insisting she us not only innocent, but perfectly logical. I can't understand how Margaret's followers are confronted with a constant stream of black and white thinking (which I learned is actually called splitting in psychology. tmyk) and they don't believe something is seriously wrong with this woman's brain. It only took a day or two after Venus ran away before Margaret came out with an arsenal of insults and accusations against her own daughter. That's not a loving parent caught off guard. That's a bitter person who already knew she was losing control and had animosity growing for a while.
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No. 279826
>>279822uuuh margo changed her Venus's runaway version… again
Venus was at home and Margaret and school, now V was at school and Maggot somewhere else? damn son, next time write down your lies on paper and stick to that
No. 279840
>>279831It's not for her lack of trying.
Remember the Jamaican guy from London?
No. 279846
>>279831She has had bfs, I remember her dating a black dude and than that Korean.
But according to Margo, Venus ran them away.
No. 279851
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Why is Venus so grey looking. I feel like she'd look better with a tan or something.
No. 279916
>>279906That makes me feel weird because apparently his birth year is 1991, same as mine, and I am by no stretch "too old".
People soon forget that once you hit your 20's you don't immediately turn into this knit-wearing, fun-hating, wine-swilling old prune, I'm still a childish dweeb.
No. 279921
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No. 279925
>>279421Ofcourse she's about to give her family some trouble.
>>279655Holly shit, that welfare is a lot. No wonder snadniggers all rush to germany.
>>279921LOOOOL!!!!
MY SIDES WENT TO SPACE!
THIS BITCH GOT A BLACK BOYFRIEND, WHAT A WHORE.
I bet next week we will see marge screaming in anger over being dumped by negro.
No. 279967
>>279867>> didn't like the jamaican guy bc sociopath.Marge twisted Venus' head to think so.
>> then said that Venus will pick out bf for her.Lurking pedophiles despite herself.
No. 279993
>>279906people here where calling him a pedo at first too, but those might have been pullfags anyway
>>279916Yeah, someone born in 1991 is still pretty young at this point anyway. Like, if this was a semi normal relationship they would have met at the job or in college, not that far apart at all.
No. 280002
Wow, y'all really think someone born in '91 is too old for Venus? She's almost 20. Its a closer age gap then those young men her Mom likes to shag up with.
>>279880I didn't mean I believe Margo. I should have put it in "".
No. 280010
>>280003I see, thanks anon
dam son, I know margo is creepy but the single thought of her fantazising about waltzing half naked/wearing V's lolita dresses around the house and hover over the newlywed couple 24/7 is unsettling
No. 280014
>>280010Narcissist moms often have an obsession with sexual competition between them and their daughters. Margo seems like one of them. Recall how insistent she was that Manaki's dad hit on her, and that Venus scared her boyfriends off. I'd be shocked if margo hadn't made a pass at manaki as her initial attempt to break them up; her fury at him and her insistence that he's a pedophile tranny screams "margo got rejected" to me. Since manaki wouldn't take her lady bait, margo switched tactics. She posted on Venus's accounts that they broke up,and when that didn't separate them she spirited Venus away to South Korea with her when it was margo alone who had to leave for visa reasons. Then margo tried to force her own - much, much younger than her - boyfriend's bestie onto Venus, as a plot to get "evidence of cheating" which then surely would make manaki leave venus. And that didn't work, either.
Anyway, I'm sure there's more to the story than we know, and what we know is mind blowing enough. But your vision of Margo creeping around their apartment in tiny nighties is probably accurate. I'm sure if venus and manaki hadn't stood firm on margo jot living with them that margo would revert to her plan to seduce him to hurt Venus and get manaki out of the picture.
No. 280030
>>280014yeah that's like a cougar porn plot
>oh hey Manaki-kun, do you wanna feel what's being with a REAL woman? mommy Marge would teach you eeeeverything that asexual virgin Venoos can't… tee hee~oh god I felt gross after writing that
No. 280034
>>279925It says
EU citizens, fuckwad.
No. 280035
>>280033I usually don't like to entertain discussions about disorders, but I think between your comment,
>>280030 and
>>280014 this is Margo for sure. I don't buy anything else.
No. 280040
>>280014Damn, anon. I fear you're right. That would explain Margaret consistently trying to emasculate Manaki, and another reason for Manaki abruptly cutting contact with her.
I was browsing Margaret's tumblr and on September 27th, 2013 she posted: "he said “it’s all in your head”
i said “so’s everything” but he didn’t get it
i thought he was a man but he was just a little boy"
Was that after breaking up with the jamaican bf?
No. 280046
>>280040The timing sounds right re: the breakup (one broke up with her, and I guess the other died, according to mags, but who knows.)
More evidence of Margo engaging in a one person sex competition with Venus is Margo accusing Venus of ruining her relationships. In her mind, she's always innocent, she Venus was her scapegoat when Margo tanked her own life. We'll never know details unless venus elaborates, but another hallmark of these toxic tangoes is that the mom lures guys in with the daughters (a la mama june) and then blames the daughter when he takes the bait.
Anyway, all that aside, margo doesn't take distance or rejection well in any form, and being that she's so thristy for any attention or power, I'm pretty sure manaki's polite refusal to be swayed by her charms and not leave Venus is the root of the manaki hate. With venus it's a lot more twisted up. Margos hates Venus and knows she needs her to get attention and to have a person to blame for all her probs, and that makes her hate Venus more.
No. 280048
>>280036I know you're not the OP because you sound sane. Read the comment I was replying to… I shouldn't have bc is was pure bait.
I know Maggot can get the dole for six months, I'm the one who posted the Hartz IV article here.
No. 280113
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>>280112Forgot to post the image
No. 280123
>>279859There is worse than being exposed to the sun: being exposed to Marshit. She is like a soul cancer.
Venus should stay secret for a while and study. She has experience in making video. She was in tv shows. With her studies she is opening doors to better life.
The problem is that V sees herself surrounded by problems and don't see her possibilities.
We should reinsure her and encourage her instead of pushing her into a battle against her stupid mother for her channel. She hasn't enough inner strength for that. She even looks depressed, that's alarming.
No. 280126
>>280113Savage! That's what you think Margit. You will end up as a "Hure" or a "Obdachlose" or both, if it's not already the case.
You have no power over Venus, she ABANDONNED you and you cannot enter in Japan, bc everytime you try you get a royal kick out back to your mother's uterus! Fcunt!
No. 280129
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NJM doing her propaganda show in V's ig.