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from the last thread>>231274>>230819
>The queen will return in all her glory and use her kawaii superpowers to save Penus and Manaki~~~
Someone in PULL suggested that the contact information was for the storage unit. I really hope it's the storage unit.
Please be safe, Venus and Manaki.
I wouldn't put it past her, but what kind of advantage would that give her, other than get random people online to kiss her ass in Instagram comments?
Unless, of course, that IS all she cares about. Attention by any means possible? Perhaps a bit of fun while she waits for Venus to crack and give away her location? idk.
Ok, this is creepy.
Let me get this straight…
Margo goes to Japan with excuse of "reuniting bunny with venus" and probably venus' other posessions she left behind.
Are these bags margo keeps banging on about her lagguage that probably has Venus' stuff in it?
So they grab the bags, maybe while margo is getting off the plane (yeah they probably shouldnt have done that).
Margo is all where's my stuff then when she figures it out "hold(s) Venus" wtf? Was this a physical assault?
Security shows up because of all the drama and Venus escapes.
She then goes to the cops and we are left waiting for the next installment of "WTF will margo do next?"
Samefagging here, but did anyone ever send anything to Manaki via email?
Is there anything we can do as a collective group to alert some sort of authorities, just to be safe?
Oh, but the Milk we will get from Margo throwing a tantrum about being deported will be glorious.
Besides, Venus has yet to say much. Maybe she will find an internet connection and fill in some of the details.
There's no point where they could've taken her stuff without her noticing. It's an international flight, you cannot get to the bags as they are unloaded onto the conveyor belt from the outside.>>231350
Pretty sure they have an appartment, if she knows his address, this is the perfect time to move.
But coudnt she come up with something less… psychotic?
It's hard to cut the abuser out of your life like that. My guess is that she is just trying to avoid anything and everything relating to her mother right now.
I'm also starting to think Margo isn't in Japan at all, but creating dramatic stories now that she's realized slandering her daughter all over instagram was a bad move. She's still in Korea trying to save face, I assume, and Venus is taking a few days to avoid her mother like the plague so she can mentally rest for a few days.
Don't worry. The Japanese police won't do anything about stalking cases unless something bad really happens. In most cases they won't do anything unless the victim is already dead.
And since margo is a foreigner she will be ignored for sure. The police here suck.
So they wont be able to get any help if Margo figures out where they live?
What ended up happening with that?
On her instegram she wrote that she told her mum "I dont want to divorce". Wasnt there was a paper work issue so they didnt technically get married?
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I think these comments from Margo weren't posted yet.
Margo is guilt-tripping like a master.
Obviously. She kept bouncing back and forth from him being a saint to him being Satan. When he made popular videos with Venus he was the best thing ever, after their first breakup he was an uneducated creepy pedophile, after their marriage she was suddenly proud of him again and now he's back to being an abuser.
At this point I also believe they have always been legally married and the faulty paperwork story was something they made up to do damage control. I mean, why would Marg announce they got married before all the paperwork was finalized? That's bizarre.
You are not alone. Most of us think like this.
Venus and margo must have moved to Korea to wait for Venus' spouse visa process to complete at first.
Venus Thought from the beginning she will live in Japan with Manaki after getting married but maybe didn't tell margo that her getting a visa won't save Margo's ass.
Venus probably kept it a secret from Margo that she is going to live in Japan with Manaki when she gets her visa.
I think she kept her plans a secret from Margo because she didn't want to hurt her feelings.
She must have been planning this for a long time.
Margo probably thought Venus will just stay with her in Korea like a good girl. In Margo's ming Being married isn't a good enough of a reason for her to leave her like this.
Alright, so here is the thing: If you get married in Japan and want to get a spouse visa, you need to prove that you registered your marriage to the authorities in your country. So before that you're only married in one country, Japan. There might've been a problem they only noticed when they saw the Japanese paperwork (faulty info taken from the faulty Hungarian info) so they couldn't register the marriage in Hungary (or Switzerland or wherever).
What was the problem anyways?
same here! he must really, really care about penus-chan if he is willing to put up with margo's shenanigans and even getting his beloved animu waifu out of her demented claws. if he was just some random gaijin hunter he could have had any white weeaboo girlie, as some other anon pointed out in the last thread. he's cute, young and has a job. he's every weeaboo's wet dream. but he remained on penus-chan's side.
better than any lifetime movie haha
They also don't understand what the word pedo means, kek.
Different people posting have different opinions on certain subjects. Shocking relegation.
you don't need to put a email address in the email field, you know.
if you want to sage, just type sage in the email spot.
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Margo is a freak. Poor Venus.
Well, at least she realised how crazy her mum is!
Just as we thought.
I cannot wait to see Margo's response to this. This drama is too good.
I just hope no one is in harm's way.
I don't even know what the fuck to say. Do you guys think that there's any way Venus could contact her bank and sort of explain her situation and ask them to change her pin? At least we know Margo might not be able to use the money in the account as long as Venus has the cash card (unless Margo transfers all the money from that bank account into a separate one for herself).
Can't Venus change the password too though? Just by going through that security question stuff and then changing the security questions and answers afterwards to lock out Margo from pulling the same garbage (assuming Margo hasn't already done that)
Wow…I don't even know what to say anymore. This drama is taking a scary turn. I'm feeling sorry for Venus, I hope she can sort this situation out. If I was her, I'd be so mad and frustrated. Can't believe how downright evil
her mother is. Fucking bitch.
If it's a bank account in Japan Manaki & Venus need to immediately contact the bank, and then contact the police to charge Mayo with identity theft.
Venus also needs to contact google, send them copies of her identity papers to proof she's the owner of the gmail account. Google does not fuck around with identity theft, and they're likely to shut down all of Mayo's accounts.
I would assume it's most likely a European one. If it's the only one she has and it's the one linked to her Youtube, I would assume they made it way back before leaving Europe.
They were never on a long term visa in Japan I think, so I don't think they even opened a Japanese bank account/would have been able to open one.
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I want to reply to this person so bad but I don't feel like getting into an argument with someone with their head so far up their ass because I know it'll be redundant but ugh…
Your mother wasn't a crazy toxic bitch living vicariously through you and using you for money so of course you don't understand. You probably had a sane mother who does care for your wellbeing because she's NOT A CRAZY WITCH. If for some reason Manaki is just as unhealthy and toxic, it's LOADS better than being with Margo. Mother does not know best here.
Some of these people act like parents can't be emotionally abusive.
OT but is it only banks in France that are such a pain in the ass to deal with?
My french roommate's cash card is expiring soon and they refuse to send her a new one (we're abroad right now)
It was a fucking nightmare, I had my card and the pin but couldn't transfer any money because they had a bullshit security system that would send me another security code. To my french number. The one I didn't even remember giving them and deactivated ages ago. Couldn't phone them either, number unreachable from my new country.
Finally I had to send them a letter en recommandé (cost me like 10€) with all my infos to close the account and transfer the money on my new account. Took month.
It was La Banque Postale.
I don't know if it's the same everywhere in Europe, but here in Belgium, my card don't have to be renewed as much (but it's not VISA, which in itself is another pain when I want to order things on the web)
it's really annoying how hard they try to 'debunk' the drama surrounding venus and her crazy ass mother, but just stay away from PULL, anon. you're wasting your time there.
also sage for OT, kinda.
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Even btb has her back. WE ARE ALL ROOTING FOR YOU, VENUS!
Yeah, no. Lawyer are pricy. Depending on how much is on that account and where the bank is, I'd say Venus is probably screwed.
Let's just hope it's not too much money.
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She's nuts. Fucking hell, she is really
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That last line, I'm sorry I couldn't help myself.
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This bitch tho. She should just crawl up Margo's ass and never come back.
>>231467>She asks me for the codes and pin
Just fucking give them to her for christ's sake
>I'm a mother-in-law so it's my job to hate the guy
What is this? A Korean soap opera? Mother-in-laws who have a good relationship with their kid's spouse exist you know… but I guess you've never had a good relationship with anyone since you're such a crazy, psycho bitch.
>I want my things back!
Venus' income probably paid for all of it, so shove off already
>Venus had it way too good with me, I spoiled her
I didn't know basically emotionally stunting and abusing your child while using them for your own gain was spoiling them. Material items don't mean shit.
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Does… Margo not realize what she's been doing for the past few days? Venus speaks out ONCE in the midst of all the sladner she's been getting and suddenly it's Venus is the one throwing a tantrum. What the fuck has Margo been doing all this time then?>>231491
Sure you wanna spend that last bit of cash you have on a lawyer Margo?
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Could someone please translate?
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Can someone translate please?
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There's more in German already
#fake #givememystuff #uletyourmothersleepintheairport
#fake #givememythings # youletyourmothersleepintheairport
stop telling such evil lies, okay?
Like the internet didn't cap the shit you wrote on Venus… Who does this bitch think she's fooling? >>231511
Sleeping in the airport was too good for her. Bitch should've gone and slept in the river.
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Bitch is on a roll right now…
KEK, she really thought Venus would let her sleep at her new place after all the slandering?
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Bear with me guys!
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Wtf does that even mean???
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down to the cops
probably attempting to go down on the cops too, it wouldn't surprise me
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Apparently Venus is the abusive one now
Is it true that Venus could lose her spouse visa over this? That would be horrible.
Magro needs to be sectioned in a mental hospital before it's too late.
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Even if she legit couldn't remember, why does she refuse to tell her the PIN if she is 100% okay with her daughter having access to her account?
Marg sucks so bad at lying it's painful.
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Yanliya asked: didnt u go to the police yet?
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German farmers, please translate?
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"Show some respect!" Are you fucking kidding, margo? I wish i could kick her in the head so fucking hard rn. She should definitely take thar trip to the river now. Poor Venus.
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god she's so desperate to meet up with venus
I tried looking up things that would cause a revocation of spousal visa in Japan, but most results (obviously) are related to divorce. When I went on Japan's immigration site (http://www.immi-moj.go.jp/english/tetuduki/zairyuu/torikeshi.html
) there's nothing said about what will happen to your visa if you commit a crime. Considering how this could just be considered theft and has no relation to Venus' spousal status with Manaki, I highly doubt they'll revoke her visa (but I'm really no expert on this). It wasn't even theft of a Japanese citizen's property, giving the Japanese less reason to give a shit.
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Margo thinks that Manaki is a bad influence for Venus lol
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someone needs to take their own advice
I'm translating this based on how I understand what she wrote, but this is Margo tier writing here, so keep in mind, I might make mistakes based on what she wrote.
Read it right Kakao (Kakao used as a petname here) and if you want to write stupid stuff here I'll report you because you didn't return my stuff worth XXXXX. I did bring you your stuff. If you would have discussed wanting to leave, it would have been fine and normal. Be more mature. The report would cancel the spouse visa. I have five things [I wanted] before you ran off as security showed up. [I have witnesses], 3 from the luggage shop, security and a lady at the info. 5 people. Write me and write me something nice, everyone can write something nice…
WELP, Margo threatening Venus for the full money.
I hope Manaki contacts the police!
Could anyone please maybe email him just a simple warning or something? I'd do it but my moonspeak is basically on par with margo's grasp on english…
Margo types in the same autistic way my father does and it makes me hate her even more.
Im really fucking mad she's threatening to get Venus' spouse visa taken away, and still wants to play the loving mother role.
Kakao = Kakaotalk
It's not a nickname.
I hope someone can reassure Venus and Manaki, but it's like this: to get her visa revoked, Venus would have to be convicted of a crime.
Which means the case would have to go to court, which means a prosecutor would have to assume there's a 99% chance Margo wins the case.
Can I just say: HAHA, NO!
There's a reason why conviction rates in Japan are high; it's because prosecutors go to court ONLY with cases that are clear. There's no way they're going to rely on the hysterics of Margo to build a case. 100% no way.
Margo can go and fuck herself. I hope she drowns or meets whatever horrible fate. When you think she can't get any lower, she goes there. She's a piece of shit and probably smells like it too.
But Venus doesn't technically have the stuff? Margo left it in Japan in storage, she can't prove anyone took it. She probably doesn't have any documentation whatsoever on the value, so it's just hearsay.
At least the coppers she's bothering will have something to laugh over.
Margo planned it so it looks on security cameras and to other people like Venus stole her stuff. But Margo still sent Venus the pic where she could get her stuff so it's useless.
Margo is such a vile cunt but she is too stupid to set something like this up properly.
"Vinooss I have your pantiss"
ew ew ew
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Even if it was a lie, it would be smart for Venus to keep all communication with Maggot public so that people can see who is really causing the trouble. Plus, witnesses and caps.
In the end, though, you know what would make Maggs go absolutely crazy? If Venus just ignored her. NPD people HATE being ignored, because everything has to be about them! I know Venus needs shit from her mother at this point, so she needs to communicate with her, but once she gets everything she needs, I pray she goes no-contact with this waste of oxygen "mother".
This new thing with Venus finally breaking free has had me so happy for her!! She honestly must be scared out of her mind.. I mean, what direction will her life go next once she breaks free of this disgusting subhuman garbage of a "mother"?
After all is said and done, the bare bones of it is that Venus is just a scared girl trying to have her own life, and it she was probably always violently denied and lied to.
Honestly, I have a Borderline (BPD = NOT Bipolar) partner, and Maggs seems more like a Narcissist (NPD) to me.
But y'all have a love-hate for the armchair diagnosis thing, and it's been discussed already. so.
But, honestly? I think you Farmers have been amazing through all of this. Venus is just an emotionally abused girl trying to get away, and it's awesome that you all are calling out the bullshit.
I pray to all deities above and below that Venus STAYS AWAY AND DOES NOT GO BACK NO MATTER WHAT.
Anyone else getting some Frollo vibes off Maggot?
"The world is cruel out there.." "I am your only friend!" "How can I protect you if you don't stay in here?"
I don't think she's in Japan, anon.
In any case, in whatever country she would be in, I don't think a medical facility would ask someone if they had cash in there was a situation deemed an "emergency". Margo would probably make a call for an ambulance because she was in "distress" or something. idk.
I'm just saying, it will probably be a desperate plea for Venus' attention once Margo runs out of ways to manipulate her.
Keemstar is a douchebag. Didn't he side with Onision when the drama with Billie and Lainey went down?
-sage for OT-
Honestly, I'm still suspicious of Manaki.. I mean, I'm happy he's helping Venus get away, but I wonder about how this will go long-term. Will it be too much trouble for him? Will he get sick of dealing with a emotional Venus? Will Venus actually be able to adapt into a more normal human being capable of dealing with the world around her in a healthy way?
I'm rooting for her, but it still makes me sad a bit. The future is in her hands, though. I hope she takes charge and makes wise decisions. I also hope she doesn't revert back to Margo-trained manipulation tactics to get what she wants in life. But she's still young. I'm rooting for her to make good choices.
Anon that post is about Margo.
Also fuck off. There isn't much bad being said about Manaki anyhow, and he is part of what's going on and involved in the situation as is.
I don't even think it's about abuse. He may just be like "Shit, I took on way more than I can handle" and then what?
No use speculating about it, though. Honestly, I don't think the lot of us know that much about Manaki and the whole situation between him & Venus aside from what Margo has been vomiting out to make any accurate predictions about her future regarding Manaki.
oh christ Don't put my shit tier abortion of art as a banner. this is a QUALITY website, thank you.
sage for ot.
I mean, maybe, but I would assume with no friends or connections (that we know of) Venus would need the listening ear and shoulder to cry on. Manaki seems to be the ones she's closest to in this situation, so she will probably need to heavily lean on him for support while she recovers and picks her life back up.
What does Manaki even do for work, anyhow?
Better working in a factory than a crazy narcissist eternal student desperately grasping at her youth
at least he can ACTUALLY support his kids in the future, instead of leeching off them like she does
old post, I know, but I couldn't resist
>I AM 19 AND I AM SAYING THIS TO YOU FROM MY EXPERIENCE
what experience lolol.
I keep going to the river to pray
'Cause I need something that can wash out the kawaii
And at most I'm making ASMR videos of demons anyway
But your insta, that instagram
It keeps me awake
My boyfriends had you figured out
Yeah, they saw what's inside of you
You tried hiding and running
But your aspergers was coming through
These plushies sitting on the wall
They watch every move I make
Bright light and photoshop living in the shade
Your totemo unkawaii heart makes my spirit shake
I had to go through hell to prove I'm not insane
Had to meet the devil just to know his name (it's Manaki)
Give up the bags
Give up the bags
Give up the bags
Storage unit baby
Give up the bags
Give up the bags
Give up the bags
Storage unit baby
the anon who predicted this in the other thread was right
venus just mixed up bags and took one of her mums by accident, and when margo started grabbing at her chaos took over and they made a break for it
My mother always tells me that, seeing all of this stuff with venus really brings me flashbacks.
I wish Venus can be finally free
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Here's a picture of me looking hot. Remember guys, I'm educated, and manaki is not. Also venus is asexual, with an ED and ass burgers and manaki is a pedophile.
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This sounds like Margo's writting style.>>231700
Why the ???, it's a fact that the japanese police gives a shit about foreigners.
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Manaki is a real human bean
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Margo is in some deep shit with all this. I hope she gets reported, then deported and lands in an asylum.
Dude, stop this shit. You have no idea what manaki is like, but you've seen firsthand what Margo is like. And she is a heavily abusive woman, in the middle of an extended (narcissistic) rage.
Sorry to personal blag, but when you've lived with parents like Margo this shit is a little clearer than to someone with positive family experiences. Venus has been told her entire life that she's not capable of being away from her mother, because she's too stupid to be trusted with money, and no one loves her but margo, etc.
Here's what we do know about manaki: he married venus. When she asked him to come to korea, he came, even though margo was going to lose her shit. When she needed help and support to leave her abusive mother, he was there.
Does this mean they live happily ever after? Who knows, life is long and they're young. But he is standing by venus in her greatest hour of need right now.
Sorry to rant, I've lived this experience and any time someone here speculates that one iota of what Margo is saying is true, I want to scream. That's the point of the rants: throw infinity shit to the wall, because at least some of it might stick.
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This comment though
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yee haw slow down there and calm your tits, white knight-chan.
If you are capable of reading more than one sentence, I also posted >>231656
Being with Manaki is 1000% better than being with batshit Margo, I'm not even arguing that.
However, his actions could just be based on his obsession with this uguu~ kawaii gaijin. I'm not saying he is a bad person at all. What I'm saying is this:
"How will he hold up now that shit got real? And how will he hold up long-term based on all the damage that has been done?"
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oh shit, I didn't know. I always thought it's something bad, since pouring bleach on your eyes would be painful
learn something new erry day
No anon we need the milk
Besides, the social media backlash from Venus is not what's hurting her it's Margo herself. Cutting her Insta won't do anything.
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True, venus fans have been storming margos insta, it's insane. And I've noticed margos follower count has been going up like crazy too. This drama will have ramifications for margo, that's for sure.
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At haneda like
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Latest photo caption
I don't really speak Margo, but it seems to me that she's just trying to be witty. She's not saying Venus actually crawled out a window, but basically what I think she means is "why did you have to run away when I was gone, instead of just telling me you wanted to leave?"
If that makes sense. It's basically a shitty metaphor
She's already edited >Let me know when you graspes clear thoughts and are ready to communicate at all, but especially privately.
Margo will chimp out regardless.
This way people can screenshot and her spazz attacks are in the public eye for later evidence.
Having her banned from Instagram might result in her stabbing Venus for real
1. it will stop the milk
2. having margo on IG at least gives us (and, obv, venus and manaki) an idea of what she's up to. there's a better chance of predicting what margo will do if she keeps talking. if she goes radio silent, we'll have no idea what her plans are (and so venus will be in far more a dangerous spot cause she won't know what's gonna happen)
Then stop watching and don't touch. Do not report.
Her instagram is evidence.
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Margo's situation reminds me so much of this right now kek
Personally what i think helps venus right now is if we google and find out if Margo's threats hold any claims.
Like the ''will ruin your spouse visa etc''
I don't think venus reads this place but if people keep responding to margo and exposing her claims are lies etc venus may pick up on it and will worry less.
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Yeah, Venus always looked so free with all those friends she went out with… also I have no idea what she's even trying to say in the second half of the comment.
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So many lulz at Margo's expense, wow imagine having her as a mother.
Narcissists threaten to kill themselves to get their way. They'll never actually go through with it. They value and love themselves too much.
And even if margo realizes how bad all this makes her look, she loves the attention and that, in the balance, makes it worth it to her. And if it makes venus look bad, even better.
There's also usually a good amount of truth hidden in their rants, too - it's just that what they accuse another if doing, the narc is probably doing themselves. And I believe her that venus left via window. It's just that mayo thinks this reflects badly on venus, rather than herself
no…. eyebleach/brain bleach is for bad things. as in 'i need extreme cleaning measures to get this shit out of my brain'
This is confirmed for Margo. This is the same idiot that was getting dumb supporters like >>231700
defending Margo's right to Venus' money. Both were saying that being her manager was legitimate "work" and she deserved her portion. Margo is fucking shitty at making sock puppet accounts.
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How about you just go back to Seoul then? Why bother staying in Japan?
>>231467>I am a mother in law so it's my job to hate that guy
emh lol if my father tells me this, I'd freak out. He's the first in asking if I have a bf… lmao no Margo, being a mother in law doesnt mean hating you daughter's partner.
And wtf with the swarovski bag? Fucking liar, Venus didnt stole you your disgusting things. And yeah, expensive books, good clothes, shoes, bags and shit bought with your daughter's monnnneh
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People that are calling Margo out make me so happy rn
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I guess since we believe V's version of things we know Margo IS in Japan but isn't it suspicious? Like there can't be that many airports she could be in lol
Margo propably thinks Instagram followers that leave a comment and aquaintances are friends. It would make sense because it justifies her claim that venus had friends. >>231829
Those people are scum. Perhaps the type of person that thinks emotional abuse doesn't exist and everything is fine as it's not physical abuse.
I don't doubt margo KNOWS a couple people in Japan. But knowing someone doesn't make you their friend, and with Margot's level of crazy, anyone she's contacted wouldn't spit on her if she was on fire - let alone go get her from the airport, let her stay at their house, and deal with a narcissist mid meltdown.
I knew a narc married to my friend for a couple years, and she would walk to our house to "hide" when her husband didn't do something she wanted, and she just expected us to pamper her and get embroiled in her dramu. We eventually stopped answering the door, and we ended up having to call the cops to get her to leave when she started screaming at us through the mail slot (and once the cops came she insisted that SHE had actually called him, because she was "so worried" when we didn't answer the door.)
Basically, the shit margo is up to is textbook narc behavior, and anyone who knows her won't come near. Doesn't stop margo from insisting she's got friends who can help and just doesn't want to be a bother, but the truth is that she has no friends. Just people who haven't been outright repulsed by her yet.
I'd do the same.
Let's look for a sugar daddy to scam and help Venus (jk)
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Oh yeah, I wonder if margo's visa is in any way reliant on venus being in korea
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Same. I don't think she's going to the river to pray.
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Can someone even live at an airport terminal? Wouldn't she stand out as a foreigner and get caught? SOMEONE EXPLAIN
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All we can do is document, expose and if there are any anons in japan, they can potentially help if she reaches out, or once she settles down.
If venus wants help she will let us know…Or at least I hope she will!
She means that sometimes teens rebel, and it's necessary. Kind of like forging things in fire, or plants growing in adverse conditions. Sometimes it makes you a stronger person in the end.
Am I the ONLY SANE PERSON HERE who thinks potentially margaret is right? I mean, is it inconceivable that venus would lie to her mother and leave her stranded at an airport?
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any anons in japan willing to take margo in? On the flipside you can film her rants and upload them to lolcow
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duuuUUUUDE the other day I saw this person's comments on venuss instagram, went to the things they followed (amongst other things switzerland…something margo would think of) and the comments that person was making stunk of margo
let's dig up this margo's 2.0 comments! I'mma go do it once I run my bath lol
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Another conspiracy theorist!
But I don't ? Why does seeing venus in a venus thread trigger
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Well margo thinks venus is bullying HER according to this comment
I feel like to Margo, a tantrum is just venus being upset or annoyed in general.
like Venus isn't allowed to display emotions or something.
said and maybe she expected to stay there? Did she buy a return ticket even?? or did she sperged and go one way ticket hoping penus will let her stay?
Even in German she can't express herself elegantly. She phrases like a 15 year old. That truly sheds light on her general mental state.
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Lol margo follows kanadajin
Margo is in control on venus' twitter; she changed the Instagram link to hers (margo 's) and posted to get people to watch "venus's" latest video upload - more proof that margo posted the latest video for that sweet ad income while she's still in control of the money.
God, margo is a crazy bitch. I kind of want to spam her insta with a bunch of Mother Gothel quotes / links / videos, or treat her like she treats venus? "Who's the old witch bitch? Why, it's YOU, margo! So old, can't get a man, has no friends, has no talent, no beauty, no wonder you're stuck in an airport all by yourself. Sigh. I always knew you'd be a sad, destitute woman. Such a disappointment to your own mother, no wonder your daughter left you!"
Auuuugh… Why didn't Venus change the passwords and email before she left?! Unless Margo is lying (as always) about Benus having access to her account in addition to her own.
I think we should stop watching Venus' videos since she's not in control of her own finances right now. We shouldn't let that bitch ass cunt Margo have anymore of our views. I'm so pissed.
he is also older and hopefully
wiser and will take good care of her.
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Almost thought thought this was margo but did a double take at the username lol
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A bit too try hard but the sausage bit did make me laugh
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He've been in Korea, this was deleted but that's why in Margo's instagram he is in Korea as seen from the scenery.
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I have….no words
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holy shit im dying over here fuck
>>232017>people that don't know shit about the story defending margo in the comments
He actually makes fun of her crazy ass long post.
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holy fuck im crying at that comment holy shit this is gold
I'm crying lmao. Such an npd thing to do, victimizing herself but actually just being embarrassing and so very oblivious to it. Ahahhahaha oh man this shit cant be staged or explained away, margo is a crazy fuck
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Jesus christ, with her continuous obsession about one thing (money), forbidding Venus from having a man and clinging onto Venus' sacred virginity, she's like Carrie's mom without the religion.
"Go to your closet and make youtube videos Venus, I need the money"
So he did make the video after all. Probably after a 5 minute glance at the info. >>232027
Margo has gone absolutely fucking nuts. What sane person is going to genuinely listen to your reasons when you post such a horrid photo?
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We're literally witnessing Margaret have a meltdown through Instagram. She should have listened to her religious family growing up as she certainly needs Jesus now.
AHAHAH WHAT THE FUCK
At first glance I thought it was Venus posting on her mums account to embarrass her.
Nope, just Margo embarrassing herself.
Manaki's the only mature one in this situation, keeping quiet. Goddamn. She's losing it.
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WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUUUUCK
I'm sure those cameras are protected and secure. Even if we could access it, it'd probably only be in a live-mode format, not something we can rewind at will.
Sage for slowpoke and non-contribution.
I also have an NPD mom, and she had a similar style breakdown when I got to be 16 (hanging out with my friends, stealing them, sleeping with them etc.) Half of it is losing control of what they see as their possession (child), and half of it's a meltdown regarding aging and needing any and all sexual attention. So since the daughter is younger - and god help her if she's attractive - the mother needs to "prove" she's the more attractive one.
That's margo's mindset in all this - its' not FAIR to her that Venus has a husband, and gets attention, and has fans. Margo made her, so all those things should be MARGO's in her her mind.
I wish Japan had something like California's 5150 hold - you can report someone who has threatened harm to themselves or others and they get dragged to a mental hospital for a 72 hour hold to determine whether they're safe for society. I think Marge is a candidate right now.
Venus is acting very mature for such a young girl too. She's only posted about what really went down at the airport, and that's it.
Margo needs to be curb stomped at the earliest opportunity, before she posts her bush.
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samefag with more shitty Carrie shoops
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So here's her Youtube stats while all of this has been going down. No drastic change in numbers or anything I guess.
Does anyone know if the estimated earnings is anywhere near accurate? Does she really make that much from her videos in a month?
in mind, spare a thought for the various host families they've stayed with over the years. Imagine the shit they've seen.
The locals forced to hang around Margo in Seoul are probably grateful for this little break.
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She's still got some dumbass white knights on this photo, wtf!!! One girl sounds like that dumb psycho slut you knew in school that got ignored by the guy she likes so she sends him nudes. Then said nudes backfire all around school.
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It actually looks like the Haneda shower rooms
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Margo seems like a fitness nut and how she has a very negative view of being overweight, she probably nitpicked at Venus's weight, eating habits and so on 24/7 which is why she got drastically skinnier.
Who cares? She's a sad sack old woman who's pissed because her daughter has the nerve to be younger, happy and married. >>232094
Margo controlled everything in Venus; life; eating disorders are about control. I'm guessing that the only thing Venus has any control over was whether she put food in her mouth or not.
Christ, Margo's an abusive bitch. The whole naked pic thing is emotional incest.
True but I just don't see it with venus.
I think the "control" thing isn't that accurate either. I mean even on this website, most ana cows are basically relient on their "mommies" and have a meltdown if they stop treating them like toddlers. With Venus it's the opposite.
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You need to come up with something else to slander Manaki, trollkins. Even "omg he's a pedophile!" holds more water than that shit.
lol. My BPD/NPD mother would also regularly not feed me when she had outbursts.
If Venus asks, "Mom, when are we going to eat?" at 10PM when they've skipped both lunch and dinner, Crazy Mayo will accuse her of being obsessed with food.
Instead of paying attention to Mayo. It's always about Mayo.
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this milk is de-diddly-licious-a-liddly
Not everyone has the same cause for an eating disorder. Not everyone with disordered eating even has an actual eating disorder.
Hers is most likely control. Proana girls are self-obsessed delusional girls that exploit their own problems for instagram likes and further encouragement.
GET ME TO THINK ABOUT WHAT MARGO
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samefag once more
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I'd love to see him lose his cool in Japanese though. That'd be savage asf.
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Exactly. Case in point.
The Japanese way of shading someone is to ignore they exist. He's doing a pretty good job.
24 is a bit young to lay down the law, I hope he has family or friends in law enforcement.
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Good for you, Venus chan!
Can everyone see how incredibly classy this kid is? It is plain as day that Margaret is full on insane, with a range of comorbid personality disorders, and Venus doesn't even hint at all the things that are wrong with her sick piece of shit of a mother. Very smart!
Margo is a bully and a notorious liar, she has openly admitted to depending on Venus financially.
Even if Venus up and split, as a mother she should be worried and trying reconcile privately. NOT slandering her daughter, claiming she killed/hurt her pets, claiming she has mental illness/eating disorder/alcoholism. Even if Venus has all these things, Venus is basically a freaking kid, because she has spent her entire life being controlled by her mother. That's why it is obvious that Margo is a liar.
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She added a bit more to the description. Sad that she actually has to defend herself against her own mother.
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Added more, this time at the top.
What if youre an idiot?!! Can you imagine?!?!
Admin sama can you block this troll?
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Nvm she just answered my question with an edit.
I thought the pic fit well with what she was saying.
It was a better choice of pics than what her mother used…
And Margo is still attending school, right? We already knew Venus is smarter than Margo. It's a nice, subtle way of throwing shade.
Language certificate vs. nude airport shower pic?
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THIS MILK IS ON FIRE
Wow someone's triggered
. Deal with the fact that we don't know the whole story yet. Margo is nuts sure, but that doesn't make her evil.
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Wrong address?? So, her stuff wasn't stolen? Or what?
I know i fucking love it!!
VENUS DESU VENUS DESU VENUSSS
Please kill me I didn't want to see this
why the hell would she do this
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it's so easy to see
Jesus Christ, starvation is getting to me.
I'm just guessing she doesn't have the wrong address, she's just too stupid to find it. Getting directions can be tricky in Japan, especially if you can't moonspeak.
The reality is that Margo is 100% emotionally and financially dependent on Venus, which is wrong in every possible way. Venus is a "parentified child", and it's only right that she torpedoed her insane piece of shit mother as soon as she became of age.http://outofthefog.website/top-100-trait-blog/2015/11/4/parentification
>>231670>maybe get a job teaching english
Have you heard her English?
Continuing on her Youtube career might be a better bet.
But if margo put her stuff in storage when she left Japan, why the fuck would she need the address to the storage place? So no, margo, it doesn't make any sense.
Margo is conflating two separate things: margo tried to bribe venus with margo bringing her stuff to japan, and margo wants her own belongings from storage. But somehow margo thinks she can't go to her own storage facility so venus needs to stay with her? And margo didnt bring any of venus shit with her, and tried to hold her daugher hostage for a storage address that margo left het own stuff in.
Biiiish that shit makes zero sense, crazy mama!
Retard alert! Holy shit, go back to PULL. If she really loves Venus and is crazy with worry wouldn't she worry about saying shit like "I should have left you with your father," "fucked up personality inherited from father," "I give up/I can't trust her," she's "spoiled, has an ED, kills pets, has mental disorders, bullies/abuses me, here's a pic of her in bed with a guy." The love ended when Venus decided not to be an extension of her mother. She wants her daughter publicly shamed and ruined. >>232208
She wants to sue her own daughter for theft. If my daughter ran off with a guy and took some rocks I would just forget the rocks, that shit would be last on my mind. She's thinking of possessions and withholding a PIN during a crisis where a "pedo" made off with her daughter. She only cares about herself.
You're retarded, go back to your containment website.
-V&M take things out of storage, leave an adress
- Margo goes to cops, gets adress
-Marg travels to adress (5 hours!) V&M arent there
Yeah I don't fucking get it. Like, if someone sent her bags (I guess that means Venus sending Margo's stuff to Margo?) to the wrong address, Margo could show up to the address to wherever it is and be like "Hi, sorry, my bags arrived here by mistake. This is proof, etc. and I will now take these bags and leave. Thanks"
Besides, if Margo's stuff was in storage, why does she need Venus to go get it for her? Why doesn't she just go to the storage herself and get it? What the fuck.>>232217
So at this point Margo doesn't want her stuff from the Japanese storage, she just wants to know where V&M are?
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That pisses me off so much.
Hopefully they'll get bored in a few days. I never knew about Keemstar until today, but the guy looks like a massive fuckboi. I hope he chokes on that protein powder.
I just searched and the only thing about Keemstar in the locked thread is the screenshots of whoever tweeted to him about the drama. So if it was one of them, they didn't mention contacting him in the thread.
That being said, I feel so sorry for Venus. She has to deal with those retards along with her psychopathic mother. She just can't seem to catch a break.
If venus ever had a pet, I'd bet you good miney that either: a) the pet (s) died of natural causes and margo told venus it was her fault; or b) margo got jealous of the affection venus gave to the pet(s), killed them, and told venus it was her fault.
Or, venus never had any goddamn pets and margo is insane. No one's ever seen one; venus never spoke of one.
God, are that dudes followers all 10 years old? "But is hamster kill? Venus you must tell if dog is kil, and y u do it???"
He's a huge dick that likes to spread misinformation. He falsely accused a streamer of being a pedophile once. He also said he didn't care about his fans and he laughed at someone whose mom died of cancer and said he wished all his viewers died of cancer. He's like a 40 year old dude that likes to tell people to kill themselves. I don't know how people still follow that dumbass. He's just as bad as Margaret in my opinion.
But enough about that dick. I really hope Venus isn't looking at her youtube right now. Hopefully things get better from here on out.
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This is all just too good it's like some Bold & The Beautiful shit.
In all seriousness though, I feel so happy for Venus. I've never been a fan and her videos shit me to tears, but I feel like under her ~showbiz~ exterior there's just a sad, normal girl who's been deprived of so many things. Margo can't seem to grasp that her daughter is an adult now, and when your kid grows up the inevitably leave you to go and do adult things and in a way it's sad, but it's mostly completely fucking insane.
What, no. I know a girl from Chile, who lived since 2008 in fucking brazil and studied japanese in a language school and pt/english in a uni and works just fine in japan as a pre school teacher (it was a lil tough getting the job since, as she said, japanese ppl are a bit racist towards gaijin tho)
But Venus has no education and her english is not the finest, so german could do the trick.
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She's really really getting to me… I. Cant. Stop. Reading…
This guy talks about some of the shit he's done with video and audio proof.
Keemstar also made a video on twitter saying Venus is an animal abuser. He's pretty much sent his fans to her.
Hoping Manaki is being a good system of support for her right now, because she really needs it after all she's been through.
Sounds about right, as she is only 18 and has been earning for longer.
Venus may have to write that money off, but contacting the bank, even if in Switzerland, is the right thing to to. They should at least know there is a dispute between the account holders.
For now, they have a roof over their head and her husband's job.
Venus should be able to reclaim her gmail by communicating with Google.
I think if Margo had the YT account she'd be posting 'truth' videos day and night.
I don't think one of us did it, PULL is full of retards so let's just hope this stupid bitch that tweeted that brobible meathead in the first place doesn't come here.>>232264
Not a chance, that dude doesn't actually care about his viewers, the people he makes videos about, fact checking, or repercussions. Just the money his gossip videos make.
I bet he gets off to this shit.>>232272
I made a rather lengthy comment about how he got the information wrong and summed up as much of what I was up to with this whole thing and it's still up.
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this is so heartwarming
Ok, thats kinda cute.
Glad she isnt being dragged down by all this.
does manaki have braces by any chance?
he would be cute if he got a different haircut, but he looks genuinely happy and venus doesn't look distraught, so a+
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He caught wind of Venus because of this.>>231500>>231621
What the flamming fuck is she talking about??? I thought she had nothing to do with her family so why
would Venus' grandfather have access to her Youtube channel? This makes NO sense. Margo's brain is really fried.
Margo is getting more desperate so her lies are getting more crazy.
Thank fcuk Tokyo is a huge city so the crazy witch can't locate them easily.
How long do you think it will take her?
More importantly, Is bunny-chan safe?
This guy is so actually unintelligent that it wouldn't even matter. This is getting him more views anyway. All we can do is report him.
Also if you go on that ugly bitch Heini's twitter, she linked him Venus's youtube channel and her PULL thread, so he, ofc got only the most useful information.
Margo is pathetic. Trash talking your daughter won't get anyone sane to side with you. Moreover, she can't get her story straight and keep adding unnecessary shit, thinking it will make her look like the victim, when it obviously backfired.>>232302
I'm glad she did. Margo must be soooo mad when she finds out, hahahaaah…we better sit back, relax and enjoy the show *grabs popcorn
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DON"T FORGET MOTHER!!!
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Now, I wonder when this will change?
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You know she's boiling with jealousy from seeing this picture too.
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damn look at all these edgy 13 year old sheep.
"haha ur dead dog haha"
"good 1, h-here's mine, uhhh…. fuck u weeb! was that good enough??"
"yeah that was gr8 dude, savage!!"
Crazy how one individual, 2 with that second tweet, could cause all this commotion.
This wasn't needed… Congratulations.
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this is what trolling people on the internet in 2016 looks like
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thumb up if keems sent u here
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Poor Manaki. Imagine having to tell your parents your mother in law is posting nude selfies on Instagram.
If Manaki's parents are traditional, props to them for standing by him and Manaki.
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I asked Margo when did her daughter own a hamster and a puppy and she blocked me
Yeah… I really
don't want Venus to see that shit. All of this is thanks to a loser 40 year old manchild and the idiot that linked him to fucking PULL
of all places for information.
psh. taco fiasco just ruined the milk. this is potentially ruining someone's life.
i think that she will stay strong through it all. it isn't like this is the first time she's had to deal with people saying mean things to and about her on the internet.
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I think that's a bit far, plus it'll give her more shit to say so people think that she's the victim, and it could actually push her over the edge.>>232090
Her body is snatched tho. Women who work out always have the nicest figures (minus body builders).>>232201>>232204
Dual means 2, adding Japan would make 3>>232275
Animal abuse.. What about fucking child abuse? What about a child being whored out for fame her whole life? What about the fucking isolation. Ergh, I regret clicking on the link.>>232393
I'm sure there are. Plus didn't she say that she was Venus's manager, and now manaki is/
Lol, sorry I was unclear, I meant Margo.
I thought she might more forthcoming with a bit of honey. Her last message seems to be a bit more mellow since she isnt demanding her stuff.
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Such a caring mother.
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Not one mention of being concerned for Venus when confronted with the fact that she is getting death threats.
The correct paper? Is she referring to the marriage paperwork?
So Venus and Manaki are officially married?
Why wasn't this announced lol.
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I don't think that this was posted here.
>>232421>I was bullied since she went viral
No, that was Venus and you made it worse by pretending to be her online and bullying other Youtubers that tried to befriend her.
>I had to kindly force the idea upon her
You forced her to do a lot
of shit she didn't want to do just so your lazy ass wouldn't have to work at an actual job. I remember several years ago someone said they were friends with Venus before she became a YouTube "star" and she said that she was super stressed out from having to make YouTube videos.
With all the bullshit Venus is getting thanks to her psycho mom, Keemstar's shitty fan base of 10 year old retards and shit, I will not be surprised if Venus just quits YouTube and starts a new life. She could go to a language school to get better at Japanese, go to a school to learn a trade or something. I just want the poor thing to have a normal life and to be happy.
And there you have it, Margo admitting to what we've all been saying.
She was too old to get popular doing makeup videos, so she forced her child into it.
Living through her daughter for Youtube hits. Sad.
>>232421>I had to force the idea on her
The funny thing is Venus always looked far cuter and more "doll like" when she was like 11-14 and didn't wear any makeup in her videos.
Way to go, Marge.
She has posted there in the past. Not trying to defend those easily triggered
idiots or anything.
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>I could have just kept her passports and cards
That's illegal, Mayo. God, please let someone, anyone, cuntpunt her. Not Manaki or Venus of course, they are much better off if they never see her again.
There's thousands of places in Tokyo besides starbucks that have free wiki, Manaki must be savvy enough to know where to go.>>232434
Margo posting more nudes to prove what an unhinged trollop she is would be good. That's she's stated that she has no problem with this Keem dude's shitfans threatening her child with death is also sehr gut. As if we needed more evidence that Venus has to stay away from this hangry harpy at all cost.
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Margo guilt trips again.
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Just found something even better.
I smell jealousy.
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Crashing this world with no survivors
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My condolences anon. I didn't get away early from my mother (she is not a Margo but a different kind of problematic
). Looking back I wish I had run… but I probably would have turned to parent-substitutes, like joining a cult or something.
I hope you are able to make some personal space for yourself away from her.
This is kind of heartbreaking… having to clarify something your own mother used to slander you publicly online must be really hard…
I'd punch magro in the face right now. How can a mother use these events, that clearly where traumatic for young Venus, to slader her? This woman is batshit crazy and evil.
What the hell wants this woman? Traumatize her daughter even more? Magro is just scum.>>232490
I noticed too! It's sacry…
>>232418>>232269>One of us told Keemstar
Seriously, if the person who contacted Keemstar is in this thread, they need to contact him again with the screencap of Margo saying she made up the animal abuse. You made this mess, go fix it.>>232068
lol at people who reply to margo's comments on here as if they're talking to her>>232490
Maybe the combined force of Venus and Manaki makes for a wider cover of English skills? Since Margret and Venus probably would make the same mistakes and so not pick up on them, Manaki might actually be useful at reading her posts over for her.
I would have screaming nightmares too if this >>232134
and this >>232495
was my mother.
Venus and her ape boyfriend tho
If I was Venus I would literally just start a new. New passwords, new everything. Fuck the mother off. Just a new slate. New name bla bla.
It's sad how her mother latches on though. Venus is almost 19 for godsake. Most mother's leave their daughters be.
Going to be honest but even though it is a difficult time right now. Venus and her mother need 9-5s. The pair of them. Find some experience, do SOMETHING. Come back to Youtube later after a break and just do videos while working. I know she earns money from Youtube but god though people need to be realistic. Life experience and shit is what Venus needs. I'm sorry but she does. Go back to school, finish and get some qualifications. She can still do Youtube. She'd have her own place and everything. It can be done.
I think people just baby Venus. I know her mother has kept her under her wing for years and she's a bit… you know. Lost? But she is almost nineteen.
Didn't see that post when i was sending mine, sorry
Yup, definitely a very bad person then.
Could be "night terrors", but maybe Venus doesn't know the English word for it.
It's pretty scary, but young kids can grow out of it as they get older.
oh god this guy needs his own /pt/ thread
seriously fuck him
What kind religion/culture is it if I may ask? Feeling sorry for you anon :(
sage for OT
What are we 12?
It's kinda clear we all hate Margo here and we know she's manipulative, no need to make 100 posts about your shitty situation. >>232583
One or two posts, ok, but no need for more. This is a thread for Venus updates. Hit her up over e-mail if you want to show your empathy that much.
He's also old as ass. A forty year old on YouTube getting tweens to fight his battles? His picture should be in the dictionary with the loser entry. He's about Mayo's age I guess? They'd make a fine couple.
As for jobs, Venus will be fine eventually. She, ironically, already knows how to follow orders and keep her cool around difficult people. Mayo is completely unemployable. No one wants an ugly, old, unskilled, insane bitch as an employee.
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Margo is the fucking whore of Babylon.
Poor Venus feeling guilty about what happened to her pets. Venus' mother should have taught Venus how to properly handle a dog and maybe avoid picking them up. It's always the parents fault when it involved a minor so Margo admitted she killed a hamster and negligently let that poor dog's leg get broken.
And I love how she, an adult responsible for a child blames Venus for her "indulgent" parenting. Controlling your child and not giving into their whims is also a parental responsibility Margo. She's incredibly fucking stupid. I can't handle it.
Agreed. On top of that, she can always make a new channel and then explain the circumstances behind the first one's deletion. She's still Venus.
Margo would have nothing.
Absolutely. She still has tons of fans in Japan that would support her, and with Manaki's help, her Japanese will be totally okay soon too.
If someone's linking her here and she's reading: YOU CAN DO IT, VENUS! NEVER LOOK BACK!
I was never a fan, but as a fellow daughter of a crazy bitch mother that I cut off contact with, I'll absolutely subscribe to Venus' new channel.
He did publicly apologise and sent that old guy to a convention and all sorts.
There's a bunch of other actual recent/relevant stuff you could cover though, go do your research and take it out of this thread.
Keemstar is only worth talking about if someone's trying to tell him he reported wrong
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It really is. Margo is a textbook example of people that should not be allowed to keep their children in a divorce. I wish Venus' dad had fought harder for her.
Literally another word for emotional incest
"s a style of parenting in which a parent looks to their child for the emotional support that would be normally provided by another adult. The effects of covert incest on a child when they become adults are thought to mimic actual incest, although to a lesser degree.">>232616
Do you even read these threads? People have been saying that for a while.
Ctrl+f "emotional incest"
Covert incest was defined in the 1980s as an emotionally abusive relationship between a parent (or stepparent) and child that does not involve incest or sexual intercourse, though it involves similar interpersonal dynamics as a relationship between sexual partners. Covert incest occurs when a parent is unable or unwilling to maintain a relationship with another adult and forces the emotional role of a spouse onto their child instead. The child's needs are ignored and instead the relationship exists solely to meet the needs of the parent and the adult may not be aware of the issues created by their actions.
Problems between parents often facilitate covert incest; as the parents distance themselves from each other both physically and emotionally, one parent may begin focusing on their child. The child becomes the surrogate partner and source of emotional support for the parent.
The effects of covert incest are thought to mimic actual incest though to a lesser degree, and Kenneth Adams, who originated the concept, describes the victims as having anger or guilt towards parents and issues with self-esteem, addiction and sexual and emotional intimacy.
Emotional incest from either parent is devastating to the child's ability to be able to set boundaries and take care of getting their own needs met when they become an adult. This type of abuse, when inflicted by the opposite sex parent, can have a devastating effect on the adult/child's relationship with his/her own sexuality and gender, and their ability to have successful intimate relationships as an adult.
Holy shit, kill yourselves. You just made everything worse.
"I think that will help Venus the most"? Fucking hell.