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No. 522225

Recent:
>Was in the hospital for a month for unknown reasons
>Has been released and been posting more, but still not opening up about the reason for the hospitalization
>posted a video where she more or less confirms it was because of a eating disorder

General Info:
> Venus youtube celeb since she was 11/12 years old
> Has been on various tv shows, travelled country to country by her mother speaking fuck knows how many languages
> Never went to school/was homeschooled
> Her mother Margret basically used Venus for $$$
> Venus escaped her crazy money sponging controlling mother and leapt into the hands of her visa cough husband Manaki
> Currently resides in Tokyo now living life and still hiding from her mother who continues to try stalking/harassing Veenos!
> Venus is still social awkward but may gradually be making friends alas Taylor R

Old thread >>286133

No. 522226

New video where she basically admits she has an eating disorder and thats why she was in the hospital.

>I know I'm a far way from being obese, but in my head I'm fat

No. 522244

>>522226
>she basically admits she has an eating disorder
When? It sounds more like the surgery was unrelated and the bloating just made her panic. She even explicitly says that she doesn't have an ED.

She definitely has severe body issues and disordered eating though and admitted to restricting her food, which is unsurprising considering her stage mom made her diet as a young girl so she'd look good in pedobait videos.

No. 522266

>>522244
>She even explicitly says that she doesn't have an ED
I find it interesting that she brought that up and said she got tested for an ED at the hospital. I think she probably does have one, but apparently Japan doesn't take ED seriously. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

No. 522270

>>522226
When the hell did she weigh 140? I never recall her ever looking over 120 lb

No. 522300

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>>522270
Probably during that time when she was modelling for bodyline, pic related. She got a bit heavier after that I think, but looking at those pictures now it seems insane that people would call her chubby lmao

>>522266
Japan is generally terrible when it comes to mental health care, which she definitely needs. Fixing BDD or an ED by yourself is hard, especially in an environment where constantly wanting to be thinner even if you're already slim is basically normal.

No. 522322

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>>522300
I always think of these images when I think of how the Japanese are about weight. I don't think any adverts we have in the west are as bad as this when it comes to losing weight. I'm sure there are ana-chans who would call the before pics fat but they seem fairly normal.

No. 522339

>>522226
no, she was in the hospital for gastroparesis and a prolapsed stomach. she says that several times throughout the video. she did say her doctor theorized her post-surgery edema was from being malnourished, but denies its from an eating disorder.

also how fucked up is it that Marge made her 11 year old self pull up her shirt after eating than accused her of being pregnant?? And said that "mexican people are fat and short because they eat too much corn" what a batty old loon.

No. 522345

Living in Japan, I can agree that there is a terrible culture around women staying thin. I think it’s actuslly true for many/most Asian cultures from what I’ve seen.
I had a baby here and I remember people immediately talking to me about wearing a tummy binder (to not look fat). Many women would marvel about “how much I eat” everywhere I would go. I am pretty slender but considered fat by many Japanese standards. The pressure is huge here and if you don’t have the mental capacity to realize it’s bullshit, it could seriously affect anyone.

No. 522692

>>522244
>she basically admits she has an eating disorder
> When?
literally the first sentence.
> in my head i think i am fat/ take up more space

No. 522693

>>522345
weird
I'm living in japan too and never noticed that.
but once I've met a guy who said he only eats a pudding a day or he is becoming fat

No. 522851

What the fuck is going on here? She spends five minutes explicitly describing her body dysmorphia and anorexia nervosa behavior
>Anorexia Nervosa is characterised by persistent energy intake restriction, intense fear of gaining weight and disturbance in self perceived weight or shape.
the fucking video is called Scared of Getting Fat. And then she says "I was tested for an ED and I don't have one." WHAT. FUCK this bitch I have supported her but am done with her she is just a ball of delusions and disorders, she has held up a passingly 'okay now' impression for a while but no, it has all been a sham. She is fucked and will never be okay. Yeah it's not her fault but the damage of her childhood was done and she isn't going to be okay so I'm never going to look at her again, why would I want to look at some wretch writhing around in the grip of one very specific obvious problem, and all her fans and half you
goobers nodding along with her rambling delusional rationalisations about why It's Not That.

No. 522875

>>522851
samefag but WHAT DOES SHE THINK AN EATING DISORDER IS THEN?

No. 522996

>>522851
You are an asshole anon. It's difficult for people to admit they have an ED, that's the entire fucking problem. One of my childhood friends had body dysmorphia and anorexia as a result and she just couldn't SEE she had a problem even though we were all worried about her. It was pretty brave of Venus to post a video like this, its a huge step admitting you have a problem, and hopefully she will get better from here.

No. 523015

>>522851
She doesn't have an ED according to Drs so she might not meet all the requirements for an anorexia diagnosis, e.g. having a low BMI. Asian healthy BMI's are generally lower than western, so she probably still looked normal. Especially in the context of being in Japan where it's normalised behaviour to worry about weight. It leans towards EDNOS. Just because she has BDD symptoms doesn't mean she has anorexia.

No. 523023

>>523015
This is only because doctors in Japan really do a poor job at dealing with eating disorders. She obviously has one.

No. 523031

>>522851
You do know, that one very big symptom/thing of having an eating disorder, is that you try your hardest to claim you don't have one? She knows she has a problem, but she is just in denial of the correct diagnosis or about what she should do about it.

>>523015
This, tbh. And I don't even think it should really matter if she thinks she has this or that at this point, it's just very good that she knows that she has a problem and that she is speaking about it and trying to get better. Too bad Japan is an awful country to be mentally ill

No. 523042

>>523031
It's the same as before though. Admitting something but not quite the real situation, vowing to get better! do better! in some entirely unspecified way, I've seen this from her like three times before. Do you notice - by the way - how when she speaks it isn't coherent? I've noticed over the years that in her serious videos, when she talks subject of the sentence changes half way through. Sometimes the subject is never arrived at, but she continues as if she had said something. I gave her the benefit of the doubt due to language before, but it's different to language mistakes, it's more like how brain damaged person (e.g. marina joyce) talks. I dunno. She did call herself addled at one point but I think she's a bit more 'addled' than we know…

No. 523122

>>523042
Not quite. She knows her fear of being fat and feeling she is huge and fat and ugly is irrational and false and she’s dealing with her dysmorphia appropriately and openly. This is a big step up from where she was before. No more secrets or hiding but openly dealing with it is major progress. I think she’ll continue to progress now that she’s taken those all-important first steps.

No. 523518

>>522851
Have you ever tried calming down

No. 524045

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Venus got control of her SM accounts back from marge. With a lawyer.
marge must be pissed.

No. 524099

>>524045
This makes me so happy for Venus. I'm glad her mom is losing more and more control over her. To hear the sick things she told 11 year old Venus about her weight, that woman deserves to be alone. Sorry for the slight derail, just really happy Venus is getting back her rightful property.

No. 524102

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Probably a dumb question, but was she wearing a wig in her latest video with Manaki or was it just extensions? I was surprised at how full and healthy her hair looked, then I saw this video >>522226
If it's a wig, wow. I want it.

No. 524123

>>522851

Chill pill non

Clearly she has disordered eating, which is not the same as an eating disorder (but on the right track). And she's in Japan; their body standards are fucking crazy and their mental health care is lacking. I'm sure if she were elsewhere, the US for example, they would have slapped an AN or OSFED label on her, but because she also had gastroptosis, they could have blamed the weight loss entirely on that.

It's hard to admit to having problems like that; I am actually quite happy she finally decided to address this issue with her fans and own up to those weird black and white ana-test videos

No. 524307

>>524102
That's a wig, it's been in her previous videos but it's clearly a wig. It's thicker and less oily than her real hair.

>>522226
This is her real hair. Oily and thin. If that's a wig then that's a failure of a wig.

No. 524362

>>524307
her greasy hair in that video >>522226
triggers me. I just want to scream WASH YOUR DAMN HAIR
sorry

No. 525123

>>522851
I think the vast majority of people here agree that she has an ED though, just not about whether or not she admitted it. Also denying that you have an ED is part of the disorder, I don't know why you're so upset. She probably still believes she's fat and everyone is somehow lying.

No. 525136

>>525123
she doesn’t meet the criteria for an ED diagnosis, it’s that simple. She does have body dysmorphia and disordered thoughts and eating, that’s different and she admits to that. She’s not out of the woods yet but she’s off to a good start towards recovery.

No. 525721

>>524045
imagine having to have legal intervention for your social media accounts

No. 526032

>>525721
She didn’t have to though, she chose to. She doesn’t even use fb or Twitter that much. She did it as a big FU to marge I think.

No. 528922

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No. 531642

Anyone else thinks manaki's responde to Venus buying lingerie was fucking weird and childish? also the comments are full with ''Omg Venus japanese boys are so pure you can't do that!'' which is ironic considering japanese guys are the most perverted and fucked up

No. 531675

Well that was awkward kek

No. 531694

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>>531642
It was a joke and Manaki was acting according to Venus. People don’t get their brand of humor (again according to Venus, on instagram.)

No. 531731

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She’s panicking about gaining what little weight she has gained. When she still looks like this >>531694

It sounds like she’s had some counseling on how to deal with this (writing it down and relying more on logic rather than feelings.) She still has a long way to go though. I really hope she’s still getting ongoing therapy cause she obviously needs it.

No. 531749

>>531694
I think that's just a cover up. He looked serious and I've never seen him act like that before. He was so uncomfortable he was turning red.

No. 534290

>would sage for speculation but not sure how
Just to address the eating disorder thing…

I'm a qualified personal trainer and we were always taught that asians have a lower BMI due to the differences in bone structure compared to Europeans.

In Asian culture it's also normal to point out peoples weight. My aunt is Asian and she has said this to me;
"Remember when you were the skinny one."
"You should watch your weight because when you look in the mirror you will wonder what happened to you."

My old Japanese house mates used to say similar things too.

Now I imagine if I am getting it from a couple of people (my bmi was overweight but I did a lot of barbell work) then she would get it a lot from people she knows in japan too.

I am worried that some of the people who she knows there may have also been promoting this behaviour (not due to being evil but as Venus grew up in England during her teens she may well have a western mentality) and so I am concerned about what people may have said as these issues became prominent to the eye of the online audience when she moved to Japan and Seoul.

No. 534455

>>534290
To sage, just write sage in the email field.

No. 535194

>>531749
Same here, it was so fucking awkward.

No. 536185

>>531675
I know she claims it's a joke, but he seems so uncomfortable in this. She needs to learn to respect his boundaries, which she'll have to learn since her mother obviously never taught her.

No. 536252

>>536185
manaki is not an innocent child, i don't know why people think that.

also, new video, in response to the comments
however he is so damn awkward

No. 536286

>>522266
I think so too. She definitely described unhealthy mindsets about food and gaining weight, at the very least. She seems to also have a fair amount of anxiety about it. As someone in the YT comments pointed out, she might have EDNOS (eating disorder not otherwise specified)
>>522244

No. 536452

>>536252
He looks like a baby that had plastic surgery. So fucking ugly god damn.

No. 536644

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>>536452
He is not ugly. He’s an average/slightly cute Asian guy.

No. 537026

>>536644
In what world is this average? Ew.

No. 537161

>>537026
Right. He looks like a old lesbian.

No. 537228

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I wonder what her "very personal" video will be?

No. 537347

>>537228
Well “today” is officially over in Japan and no video has appeared. Is she really doing this again?

No. 537384

I guess she's a lolcow again. I thought Youtube is her job, why does she need to make videos about being sad? Does she realise every other Youtuber also pretends to be happy?

No. 537393

>>537384
Come on she's just sharing her feelings and being honest. I don't see the problem

No. 537411

>>537384
She seems to be genuinely depressed, I am going to cut her some slack. And tbh I think this is the sort of 'entertainment' many of her viewers are interested in.

No. 537413

>>537393
She's making videos crying instead of going to a therapist

No. 537427

>>537413
>crying instead of going to a therapist
Easier said than done. Don’t forget she lives in Japan where mental health treatment is woefully lacking. Therapists are rare and good therapists even rarer.

She’s in one of the worst countries possible when it comes to mental health support/treatment.

No. 537500

>>537427
So how is crying in videos going to help

No. 537546

>>537500
Maybe it’ll help her feel a little bit better for awhile? Talking about what you’re feeling is supposed to help, that’s what talk therapy is all about. She has no one to talk to so I guess she’s using Youtube to vent.

It wouldn’t be my choice but sharing your feelings on SM seems to work for some people, especially young people like Venus who grew up on SM.

No. 537882

I’m all for her being real but wasn’t it obvious that she wasn’t okay mentally? Girl ran away and married some dude or some shit.

Honestly I just think it’s funny how this is a show thread yet every other person is praising her because she’s going through a hard time.

No. 537914

>>537882
Yeah I don't get why other people act like she just became a poor depressed baby. She's been posting stuff on instagram about being lonely since years, obviously it doesn't help.

No. 538825

>>537384
mhm, she is like a bomb of feelings, also, the only adult friend she has is taylor? what about this mika girl?

No. 538838

>>538825
I think Mikan is not much older than her.

No. 539385


No. 539563

phone call with Manaki’s mother.

No. 539628

>>538838
As far as I know she's 1 year younger than venus

No. 545082

Why is she making private phone calls public?

It’ll clearly piss her Mum off if anything

No. 545084

YALL

No. 545089

>>545082
I really don't think she should be, it definitely seems like she has boundary issues. But she did seem genuinely nervous about making the call and crestfallen to hear that her mom really was that much of a mooch. It is like she's having a messy, unproductive public meltdown/'therapy' session.

No. 545107

>>545089
She seriously needs an adult in her life right now, not some 20 something dude she's married to.

I hope no one is going to stalk her dad down by the name she didn't even block out… god damn. I understand her fans are concerned but god damn, this is gonna turn into one big Marina Joyce repeat or some shit.

(I'm angry, I'm sorry)

No. 545132

>>545107
she didn't put the last name (h-p is all first name). the surname is not palermo as far as i recall, rather something else as palermo was made up by margaret to be more 'hollywood'

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>>545132
she did

No. 545438

All these years and I still can't stand the way she talks. I'll never get used to it.

No. 545506

>>537384

some of y'all are brutal goddamn.

>>545084

I don't know if making this video public was a good idea, but i feel so sorry for her. Her mother wrecked a lot of relationships for this girl. I hope her fans don't try to track her dad down and I hope he gets back to her.

No. 547029

>>537384
>>537500
The point of this video was to point out to other that even their 'idols' feel sad. Being happy all the time isn't a requirement to have a good life.
Even the barbie youtube did a similar video lately.

No. 560845

fuck

No. 560861

>>560845
yeah idek. good thing the surgeon is in jail now.

No. 560876

>>560845
Wow, that was a heavy video. I had no idea she was staying in the hospital for anything like that, I thought it was probably mental health issues, I don't know… I'm glad she made the decision to not cut off her stomach, though. My mom has had bariatric surgery when she also probably shouldn't have done it, not to the extent of Venus but she wan't actually obese, and since then she's been through phases of severe anemia, she throws up a lot, almost everyday, and anyway, it's just scary sometimes.

No. 560897

>>560845
not to take away from the seriousness of this video but is that o come let us adore him playing in the background? kek. stay healthy, venus.

No. 561024

>>560845
I'm not saying I would definitely know how to handle this situation better if it were my spouse, but it's sad to hear her say she had no one to talk to despite having a husband, and that when she got the surgery Manaki threatened to divorce her. Since she's also said the only person she has to talk to is Taylor it seems like she is really isolated and alone in dealing with her severe mental and physical health struggles.
Also crazy how she's said doctors in Japan confirmed she doesn't have an ED despite all the behaviors she details in this video are textbook ED behavior and thoughts, like the severe calorie restriction and frequent fasting lasting several days, terror of feeling fat on her body and wanting to cut it off etc.

No. 561029

>>561024
she clearly has eating disorder. How crazy! she almost died because she wanted to be skinny. She need to admit it and seek professional help.

No. 561076

>>561029
She is seeking professional help. She said on instagram that she started seeing a new therapist this week.

No. 561173

>>561024
Either she's lying about the doctors saying she has an ED, or the doctor's she's going to don't know jack shit.

I'm inclined to think she's lying tbh. The mental gymnastics she's doing to somehow disprove she has an ED is insane. I feel so bad for her. We always thought Margo was the reason for her previous weight loss, but this all happened after she left. Manaki does not seem the type to push her to do this sort of thing, especially since he was angry according to Venus. Maybe its just trauma from her younger years, and stress about her mom and living on her own for the first time.

Its so sad, she really needs serious help. I'd seriously hope Taylor would see these signs and try to persuade to see that this is so much worse than what Venus wants everyone to think it is…

No. 561375

>>561173
Honestly her ed is probably partly her mothers fault too for making fun of her stomach after eating as a child and doing body checks for her, which she’s spoken about in a previous video. Ofc it’s probbaly also a way to have control over something in her life, it’s likely her mom still stalks her and that can be very stressful. ( I don’t follow Margo threads)

In Japan Ed’s aren’t really “a thing” so it’s unlikely she’s actually been diagnosed with it. Hopefully her new therapist is a good one.

On a side note I never knew it was this severe for her and I hope she will be better soon. Hopefully her friends keep supporting ear.

No. 561428

>>560845
If all this is true… Dude. What the FUCK. This surgery experience is insane. And the surgeon took out her appendix and gallbladder too, without her knowing he would do that and not telling her why? I know you can get some botched surgeries overseas but this is one of the worst I ever heard.

Usually medical stuff doesn't gross me out but I am physically cringing at how awful this must have been to go through. I hate to say this, but she definitely shortened her lifespan after this ordeal. That's really sad.

Also she says she can now eat like a normal person… tha is not true. You have to make big diet adjustments if you get your gallbladder out, let alone after all this shit that was done to her intenstines/stomach.

One thing I don't understand is she must've had to have corrective surgery. Is she in insane debt now due to this and her extensive hospital stay? I don't know how the medical system works in Japan but that is so fucked.

No. 561670

>>560845
So… that means that Margo was right for once? lol
I know that having an ED is not her own fault, but getting such a surgery is plain insanity AND she has an influence on much younger girls, so showcasing her clearly sick behavior for months… Somehow can't pity her much.

No. 561688

i feel really sorry for everything she‘s been through and yeah i guess mental health issues and an ED do make you behave irrational but damn she really does make the worst decisions sometimes…

i reaaaally hope she listens to Taylor. she knows a lot ablut nutrition and health and i think she could be a good rolemodel for her.

No. 561818

>>561670
She was only right because Venus was scared and reached out to her. Instead of being there for her Margo spilled all of her private problems on social media. She could've had an opportunity to patch things up with her daughter but she's more interested in making her look bad and convincing the world she wants to strungle her. The way she blabbed it all with Benoos have illegal surgery to remove her intestines because she wants to be thin only made her sound insane. She still sounds insane even with the reality as it is.

No. 562888

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She's very sick.

No. 563381

>>562888
tbh I wonder if getting her stomach reduced would be a good idea under the condition it was done by competent doctors.

She might feel relief from wearing a corset though, it exerts pressure on the stomach and nerves that signal hunger.

No. 564970

>>561428
In a previous video, she said that she was able to pay for the hospital visits (I believe someone asked if she was staying on Manaki's dime and she got very emotional and said she would never ever do that to him).

No. 565721

>>562888
I really hope her health isn't fucked up for the rest of her life and that doctors can find a solution…she's so young. It's really sad.

inb4Lolcow isn't a fansite: I'm not even a fangelic myself but I wish her the best.

No. 565902

>>522322
im 55kg, too fat for japan

No. 568232

Lmao cant believe i thought her mom was really losing it, saying she got illegal weightloss surgery and then HERE WE ARE lol
I mean props to her for finally coming out and saying all this but she definitely has an ed.
Dang this story just gets wilder and wilder.

No. 570010

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I noticed Manaki's jaw looking very strange in this particular video, do you think he is stuffed things in his chin to look more 'anime-like' or did he recently had chin implants?(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 571734

>>570010
I think it is just how the fabric hangs, he's much less shy than before but he's been wearing the masks more so he is evidently uncomfortable with his looks a bit.

I'm actually really enjoying his videos, he is funnier than Venus.

No. 575166

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i'm so proud of venus. she is truly growing and flourishing.

No. 575875

>>575166
Interesting, i am actually quite happy she admits to it! If she really wants to change, it would be a great step forward.

Honestly i am always nitpicky so who knows how much of this is for views or attention but whatever she‘s going in the right direction and that‘s great.

I am also glad she cares about friendships and goes out more often than sh used to.

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No. 578101

>>576741
Pretty certain half of those pictures aren't even of Venus

No. 584218

I don’t know if I’m going crazy or not but I’m beginning to experience Margo-like feelings towards Manaki lol

But in all seriousness, I genuinely feel bad for the girl. Her fans have now spammed her friends because that (edit) part was just added

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Also excuse the double post
But this is the photo in reference about the (edit)

No. 584661

>>584219

I dont really get what her problem is. Gastroptosis isn't a big deal, and can be reversed with proper diet and excercises.. it also doesn't make ppl fat or hungrier than usual (I know because I have it too). Her problem is that she's mentally ill, a binge eater, and too lazy to do sports.

No. 584679

>>584219
She's never going to get better unless she leaves Japan and gets help somewhere else.

No. 585654

>>584661
>>584679
I agree.
I think that she has an eating disorder which fluctuates between anorexia and binge eating. She's latched onto this condition as an "easy" way to get what she wants. I'm sort of horrified but not surprised that a Japanese doctor is even considering performing this operation on her. But then Japan has terrible treatment when it comes to mental health and even worse when it comes to eating disorders.
Basically, Venus needs to be inpatient yesterday.

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>>584219
She realizes she was wrong to post about Mana. Give her a break, she is trying.

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No. 599722

Anyone else find it a little distasteful how venus is using her surgery story to make more money?

Like she said it's to help others avoid what she went through but then she posts a MONETIZED video. Then she further sells her story to some magazine or whatever. And then if that wasn't enough, she changes the title of her surgery vid, changes the thumbnail to those shocking underweight photos of herself and its the first vid that pops up if you search her channel, so she's basically trying to clickbait (trick) people in viewing it again, thus giving her MORE MONEY.

It's so distasteful. Ugh.

No. 599983

>>599722
Eh, I dunno. Her body is fucked for life now, might as well make the best out of this situation.
Apart from that - with Youtube being her main source of social interaction for years and having no private life because of Margo, I'm not surprised she feels oversharing personal stuff like this is normal.

No. 603902

>>599722
nope it's totally understandable. what i wanna know tho is why doesn't she wash her hair

No. 606842

>>603902
THIS. what's the point in wearing cute and expensive clothes if she just ends up looking like an unwashed mess.

No. 613205

>>603902
>>606842
It's really difficult to wash hair when you have had surgery. I would go to the salon to get it washed. She may not have had that option.

Anyway she has a new video up. Doesn't she have family in Sweden?

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>>613205
her surgery was months ago. That’s no longer an excuse for her appearing dishevelled, greasy and unwashed in most every ig pic and YT video now.
Also - is she binding her chest? (see attached pic, from latest video)

No. 613621

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How about you just wash it once in awhile? And trim off those old dead ends. That would be nice.

No. 613634

>>613535
Holy fuck she's fucking recovering both mentally and physically. Give her a fucking break. Don't look at her IG if you don't like looking at someone who's dealing with some serious issues. Good god.

No. 613657

>>613634
Serious issues for sure..going out of your way to dress and look like a 6-year-old child qualifies as a serious issue I agree. However her IG is public and she’s always thirsting for views on IG and YT so “just don’t look at it if you can’t deal” is kinda unrealistic don’t you think?

No. 613747

>>613634
I get that she's mentally unwell.
Still, she has the time and energy to put on tons of makeup, circle lenses, nice outfits, and edit her pictures… but can't take a 5-minute shower?
That's just having bad hygiene and nothing else.

No. 613939

>>603902
When I was recovering from ana my hair looked like that just a few hours after washing it, maybe that's it?
But girl, seriously do yourself a favour and buy some dry shampoo either case

No. 614047

>>613939
There's also a shitton of humidity in Japan, caucasian hair always suffers

No. 615083

>>613657
You don't HAVE to view everything thats public on instagram. Also stop posting this pedo shit all over /cow/ you've even posted it Margaret's thread about it.

>>613747
Showering requires stripping down naked and remaining naked for a time, usually rubbing yourself. You seriously can't understand why someone with a fucking ED wouldn't want to be prolonged to their naked body? She's doing what she can. If she wasn't wearing ANY make up, nice outfits, etc she knows you cunts would be even worse. It doesn't take any more effort to put a nice outfit on than a casual one.

No. 615741

not frazzle anon here but she does seem to be wearing some kind of brace. if you look at the side of her it looks a bit rigid

No. 615865

>>615083
Just washing her head (or wearing a nice wig, or using dry shampoo..) doesn't require being naked.
It's strange that some people here seem to think that showering can somehow be optional under any circumstances. It's pretty much the only thing expected by society.
Slathering her greasy, uwashed face in makeup makes it actually look so much worse.

No. 616422

>>615865
>It's strange that some people here seem to think that showering can somehow be optional under any circumstances.

So if you got into a car crash and were physically disabled, still in your hospital bed, you should be rushing to get up to shower? What the fuck is wrong with you? Go back to empathy school. Mental damage can be as debilitating as physical.

No. 616664

>>616422
People in wheelchairs manage to keep themselves clean. Even an iranian sheepherd probably takes a dip in the sea once a day. No one cares about someones mental damage or their reasons for being gross irl, and especially not on lolcow. So get over it and just take a shower, greasy-chan.. then you won't have to defend yourself on here all the time. :)

No. 617462

>>616422
She’s not physically disabled or in a hospital bed now yet she still looks greasy, unwashed and dishevelled all the time. Just wash your damn hair once in awhile, how hard is that?

No. 618219

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So Venus follows this account on IG-
it’s all about tips and tricks for losing weight and staying skinny. 0 cal drinks, lots of veggies and other high bulk low cal foods, basically the whole ana playbook

No. 618222

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>>618219
more of their content

No. 618229

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>>618222
she recently liked this post:
about how to compensate for eating a meal out by restricting the next day(s)
just eat veggies and drink only water until you’ve atoned for that meal.

don’t know if she’s getting any kind of ongoing treatment for her ED but it’s clearly still there.

No. 618333

>>618229
Nothing wrong with that. Every woman not blessed with a high metabolism needs to look after her diet.
I just hope she eats enough fats and proteins, and not just veggies all the time.

No. 618829

>>616422

What are you so angry about? Chill.

When I was going through my own ed issues a few years ago, I never didn't want to take a shower, I was naked but by myself, and I never heard that from any of the other girls in my support group. Out in public eye most of us kept ourselves clean and groomed because we wanted to look normal. and what does being naked have to do with it? i could feel my fat stomach and thighs touching at all times-but wwhatever.

It is a norm to not care about washing when you are depressed. But she goes out quiet a bit so, its a bit strange to some.

and being mentally ill and disabled are not the same thing, do not compare the 2.

No. 621386

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look at venus looking all fluffy and adorable again, hanging out with yukapon. she gets along with pretty much everyone, which is a miracle considering she grew up with maggro.

No. 623056

shes back on twitter now.

No. 623595


No. 623723

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>>623595
jesus it's bad.
it makes sense though. when she was with margo she wasn't allowed to have feelings or be sick (mentally or physically), so she has to go through 18 years of trauma now, all at once..
please don't die venus

No. 624013

Her new video is scaring me! I feel like I should call someone to help her, but she's not even in the USA.

No. 624215

>>623595
This really sounds like me when I tried to recover from my ED, don't forget that anorexia is an anxiety disorder, I really hope she gets better soon. Anxiety is a bitch

No. 625146

>>623595
Jesus Christ she doesn't look good. Wonder if she'll take down this video soon because she ALMOST sounds manic with trying to describe EVERYTHING she's feeling at once or she's just really out of it. Please don't die Venus!

No. 626156

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Hopefully the meds will help, I've been in her exact position (minus having a support network at all) and still am. It's tough.

Also someone left a comment on one of her recent posts criticizing her style (that it looks like for "little kids" & she's outgrown it & hoped she didn't go out like that in public), then compared her to Mags when she wore her lolita dress for (My Strange Addiction?) I think. Then, not too long after V posted this pic, clearly in public, in kawaii-styled clothing and lot's of cutsey hashtags in a comment, although it's a lot more of a subdued kawaii-style (lack of colorful bracelets, hair clips, ribbons etc) so maybe it has nothing to do with the comment(s) as I'd assume she'd wear something really over the top if she was making a subtle jab over it.

But I thought it might be a subtle jab like "F you I'll wear what I want (adds a bunch of kawaii hashtags to try to piss them off)", similar to how she sometimes makes subtle jabs to Maggot. Or am I looking too much into it lol. Her face looks pretty evil and menacing in that pic and kind of matches Mags exact facial expression in her pic, eerily similar actually, same with the way she's holding her hands & the commentator actually brought up that very same pic. I know she gets angry when ppl criticise her style (based off the previous Manaki posts,) but would she really bother making a subtle post over a hater/stranger?

Was just an interesting catch and got me thinking but maybe I'm crazy? Does anyone see it lol? I would hope it's not a jab though and she would be above that, she can wear what she wants and doesn't need to worry about such comments really.

No. 626173

>>626156
Jesus christ what a reach. She always adds the same hashtags, and she posted a lot of pictures outside in those kind of clothes.

No. 626418

>>621386
Idk if these girls are the right influence for her tho
Mikanmandarin is anorexic and yukapon is a mentally ill drug abuser soooo

No. 626620

Even in her depressed, i'm vacuous "i dont want to die" video she kept staring at the camera to see if she "looks good".

so. fucking. vain.

No. 626684

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She’s going to Narcon this month, July 26-29 in Sweden. It’s a gaming/cosplay convention. She’s on their FB page with a caption (in Swedish) but I can make out “meet and greet” and “signing session” so it sounds like she’s going as a presenter to meet fans and sign autographs.

No. 626686

>>626620
eh, it's to be expected.
seriously, does she even have real hobbies and interests besides getting attention on youtube/instagram, clothes, food and spending money in general? all of her videos are basically about that.
for most of her life her only influence was "i'll tell my 11yo daughter that she looks pregnant after eating"-margo, so what do you expect? it will take a long time for her to find an identity of her own and stop just being a vain husk.

No. 626689

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>>626684
the caption:

bwahaha marge is gonna be ragey. She used to love going to these things back in 2013-2015 when she was rolling in those Venus Youtube bux. Now she’s a broke-ass hobo stuck in a moldy rented rooom in Seoul.

Suck it marge

No. 626971

>>626689
Hah, fun to see some Swedish Vänner here. Might as well give you an transalation: "Our last guest is coming all the way from Japan to meet you. @VenusAngelic is coming to NärCon Sommar 2018!

Venus lives in Japan and vlogs about fashion, food, travel and everything cute. At the festival she will hold a Q&A about life in Japan. You can also meet her at her Meet & Greet and signing session.

Tag a friend that wants to come with you and meet Venus!"

No. 628518

>>613621
>wash it
Do you know what the weather is like in Japan right now?

No. 628593

Apparently she is staying with Mikan

No. 628598

>>628593
I’ve seen in her Instagram stories it’s only for a week. I’m glad she can stay at friends for a while, when in couple it’s good for everyone to breath a bit and as she has no family to visit, it’s nice she has a friend.
Hope her future life changing decision is about going college!

No. 628610

>>628598
Really? I thought she was dropping a hint of maybe a separation.

No. 628612

>>628598
Well she won't become better as long as she's with ana-chan and kusuri-chan

No. 628614

>>628610
Many people keep commenting about this meaning she is breaking up with or leaving Manaki but spending time apart during stressful times is quite normal. It doesn’t ultimately mean divorce. Lots of couples do it to clear their head and help their relationship. Perhaps her therapist suggested some space. Couples should not be glued at the hip 24/7. Manaki has solely been taking care of her while dealing with this crazy situation and when he is at work, she is spending long hours alone, lost in dark thoughts. She needs to have someone else around her while she getting used to her medications and dealing with therapy.

I saw several of her fans already declaring that Manaki must be a bar person or not strong enough for her, dispensing theories that HE must have done something wrong. How about the poor guy is exhausted and needs a break from his mentally ill wife? And she said this break is only for a week. I can’t believe how fucking naive and unempathetic her fans are.

No. 628650

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Glad to see that she is weight restored, she bounced back quickly.

No. 628652

>>628614
>I can’t believe how fucking naive and unempathetic her fans are.

Probably has to do with most of them being teens.

No. 628653

>>628652
A lot of them are even younger than that, like 9-12 years old.

No. 628664

Sometimes you just need to get away to a new place for a few days to clear your head and get a fresh perspective on things. I agree with the poster above that spending so much time alone in their apartment while Manaki is at work isn’t healthy. She has nothing to occupy her time, no school or work and no family or friends close by. It must be really lonely and boring all day.

I think this is the first time she’s spent any time apart from Manaki except for her hospitalizations - he even tags along on her girl’s days out with her friends (Taylor, Mikan and even Tsuruko when she visited Japan and they met, you could see him in the background in the video.) Why he feels the need to tag along on these things I don’t have a clue, unless Venus wants him there. Either way it’s kinda messed up.

If her “life-changing decision” is to break up with Manaki I doubt she would be so happy about it. Wouldn’t that be a pretty scary/sad thing? For one thing, I doubt she’d be able to financially support herself on her own.

She seems too happy in the video for it to be that.

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>>628610
She liked this comment on the video, which I highly doubt she would do if she was about to announce her divorce.

No. 628670

>>628664
I think the life changing decision is probably to undergo the surgery she initially turned down to remove some of her stomach.

No. 628759

True, but it also shows that the decision is probably about taking a break from Manaki. If I had an excellent relationship, I wouldn’t be liking “sometimes people just need a break from family since home can get stressful” type of posts.

No. 628781

OT but did Mikan have a nosejob ? She has this typical plastic surgery nose.

No. 628809

>>628667

Its probably hella nice to talk to someone that she shares a fluent language with too. I doubt Venus is super fluent in Japanese which probably makes expressing her emotions fully to Manaki really hard. It probably causes frustration in both of them because Manaki can't understand what she wants or how she feels besides basic words and sentences.

>>628781

probably just meitu editing and filters. All the weebs edit these days.

No. 628862

>>628614

/I saw several of her fans already declaring that Manaki must be a bar person or not strong enough for her, dispensing theories that HE must have done something wrong. How about the poor guy is exhausted and needs a break from his mentally ill wife? And she said this break is only for a week. I can’t believe how fucking naive and unempathetic her fans are./

I guess it's because they love the idea of Venus being just a frail little victim that they can project their own issues on. Having her spend some time with other people than Manaki breaks that bubble bc, well, she's not moping and being some sort-of sad puppy. She seems to realize that even when Manaki has helped her out a lot, he cannot do absolutely everything, and being with Mikan and others will be a refreshing change of pace. But to the "fans", that means she must be OMG SAD AND TIRED!! BAD MANA!!

I remember seeing her fans bitching because Mikan couldn't visit Venus every day when she was hospitalized. Now they're bitching because she CAN take her in for a short while for a change? LOL, gimme a break.

No. 628891

>>628664
I don't believe she would leave Manaki and give up her visa and cushy life as an adult child, at least not without a plan B for a visa. Venus would never leave her holy land of Japan.

No. 628902

>>628667
Mm. I really hope that things aren't as they seem. It looks like she's just been going through and liking every comment without much regard for what they say. I'm gonna give the situation the benefit of the doubt and hope that Venus is simply taking a break as opposed to having actual trouble in her relationship.

No. 628975

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this is so sad, she looks so big next to that girl
imagine getting all that surgery just to get thin and then exposing how big your bone structure is next to that girl

No. 628979

>>628975
Venus' broad Alpine bone structure really shows when she's beside actually petite women. Since she idolizes cultures that have naturally small women it's no wonder she's so unhealthy.

No. 628987

>>628975
To say she may frequent this site, probably not a smart move to say she looks chunky when she's just gained healthy weight from being skeletal. It was seemingly people calling her fat from the Bodyline shoot on here and PULL (and comments from her mother obviously) which triggered her downfall with food and weight.

No. 629033

>>628781
She actually went on PULL to clarify that she did have a nose job. The profile was more prominent, typical Kurdish “hook” before.

>>628862
No matter how much you love them, taking care of a mentally ill or physically ill person is exhausting and can hurt your own mental health very badly. These kids don’t realize what it’s like to take care of anyone but themselves and they have this warped view that the only good family and friends are those who drop everything, even risk their job, to cater to their ill relative. It’s very cold-hearted! I see a lot of this “If you can’t accept me at my worst, you don’t deserve me at my best.” mentality among tumblr kids and it makes me feel so bad for Manaki, Mikan and the others who already done so much to help.

>>628975
She just gained back healthy weight and you’re taking jabs at her? Yes, she is naturally bigger boned and will never naturally be petite but don’t forget how awfully unhealthy she looked just a few weeks ago. People need to stop pointing out how big and “tall” she is and just be glad she doesn’t look like she is dying anymore.

No. 629049

>>628975
On what planet does she look “big”? Y’all are sick.

No. 629078

>>629049
Big as a bigger structure, not fat.
She's taller and wider in bone structure, that's not fat you retard.
Or her friend is just really petite but I doubt.
She has an east european body type, which is normally taller & wider than your normal uwu smol girl body type glorified in japan

No. 629083

>>628975
hey both look cute here. The little extra lbs suit her so much. I'm glad she is looking healthier.

No. 629224

>>628975

I think Venus is actually still pretty skinny. She just looks "normal" next to mikanmandarin because she's anorexic.
Seriously I can't stand the way mikan acts around food in her and Venus videos
Hope it doesn't affect their friendship

No. 629236

>>629224
was it actually ever confirmed that mikan is anorexic?
she doesnt look sick or boney, has nice skin, hair and a healthy glow (just compare her to venus), so I would be surprised.
she also seemed normal to me in her eating videos

No. 629260

>>629236
She looks 10 when she's 20, she has a natural tan and thick hair due to her heritage, of course she doesn't look as white as venus.
She only ever shows her legs so it's hard to tell how bony she is.
In videos with food she's always like OMG I'm so hungry, this looks so good, I'm so huuungry(yea U sure look like u r) and takes forever until she starts eating,very annoying. I bet she and venus are ana twins

No. 629269

>>629078
I’m a different anon but lol you say big as in simply big bone structure and not fat, but also in the same breath said “this is so sad.” How is being or looking big boned sad? Clearly you meant it negatively, and this is coming from someone petite. Venus looks
healthy finally, whereas the girl next to her often appears malnourished. Ffs.

No. 629277

>>628975
I think venus looks heavier than usual here because of her styling choices. as far as I know she's a pear and pretty much all her fat is on her thights - these shorts make her hips look wider, and because of the loose blouse you can't see her petite upper-body.
she would look just fine in an a-line dress, or if the blouse was cut tighter.

No. 629281

>>628975
is "omg big bone structure!" the next "nasolabial foldssss" ?

No. 629295

>>629078
what's sad about being taller than your friend? It's good that she can show herself like that you retard

No. 629319

>>629078
Her friend is severely underweight tho, go look up her PULL thread.

No. 629325

>>629269
I'm not >>628975, famalam :v

No. 629375

>>629269

Calling her malnourished is mean tho
She's a refugee, it's normal

No. 629410

>>629319
Am I the only one who has actual irl friends with mikans bodytype?
You can see her body is just supposed to look like that, she looks really skinny but still "soft" enough (if that makes sense). If venus had the same bmi as her for example, you could tell right away that something was wrong. plus mikan has apparently maintained that exact weight for years, so she would be and look very malnourished by now.
I'm not saying it's impossible though, just that there are girls looking like that.. and you all definitely glamourize being smol uwu, a body like that only looks good on photos tbh.

No. 629412

>>618222
Except a lot of this shit has nothing to do with ED but is current thinking on how to maintain a healthy weight while also making sure you get the proper nutrients. A fucking infographic telling you about the pros and cons of steak vs. chicken or ‘instead of eating the whole bag, only have two oreos’ is hardly for ana-chans. Venus def has an ED but at least she’s trying.

No. 629560

>>628975
I actually feel kinda bad. Her young, retarded and tactless fans are spamming with comments saying "Venus you're so big?!", "Venus I didn't know you were so tall and wide :)".
I genuinely wish she wouldn't have instagram. It can't be good for her mental health

No. 629678

>>629560
they're exactly the kind of people drawn in by content like "watch me eat this giant pudding xDD", "watch me bathe in slime OwO" and bizarre clickbaits with no noteworthy content besides a cute girl talking nonsense like she's 10yo.
It's easy money, but the price is having to put up with those retards.. still better than having to work retail though.
I just hope Venus knows this, and only pretends to care for that sweet youtube bux.

No. 629744

>>629260
In what country does she look 10 anon, she fricking looks 19-20.
what a reach anon.

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No. 629757

I wonder if it’s good for her to be around Mikan, she super skinny and acts weird around food and that might trigger Venus.

And she just has this smile that says that she’s thinking bitchy thing about you.

That’s the vibe I get.

No. 629759

>>629757
Well, Venus needs to learn, she will see a lot of skinny girls (and more in japan) she cant just hide herself from the world.
reality check.
I get the vibe that Mikan has a dry sense of humor.

No. 629767

>>629757
all her friends are skinny though (taylor, you-stole my-apricot-girl and tsuruko), and have some sort of ed or at least watch their intake very closely
venus never had friends before, so I think any friend is better than none rn

No. 629826

>>629767
I wasn’t saying for her to have no friends just…I worry about her. Like she doesn’t need to relapse.

Been there, not fun.

No. 630263

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Mikan throwing shade
Venus playing her “little anime games”

No. 630357

>>630263
I swear to god, venus "worried" fans are going to chase away all her friends eventually.
It's just not wort it.
her friends are not allowed to make jokes, they have to be there for venus 24/7 no excuses, and they better think veeery carefully about what they post on their instagram, or there will be a neverending flood of retards sperging out.
did venus even comment the last time, when she uploaded her suicidal video and mikan got bullied like it was all her fault for not instantly dropping everything and driving over? I can't find anything on her instagram.
maybe venus is enjoying it idk

No. 630368

>>630357
no one’s “sperging out.” just noting a snarky comment by this Mikan girl. Is that not allowed?

No. 630417

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>>630368
I'm talking about this ..tho I noticed after scrolling back that it was only these two so far, but still.
just thinking back to people annoying manaki because he dared suggest princess venus should wear normal clothes instead of lolita, etc

No. 630742

>>628975
In the video on Venus channel Venus looks soft, pretty, cute and feminine and her "smaller" friend looks angular and mannish. Prettiness is not directly related to size.

No. 630748

>>630742
I agree, imo she's one of the few white weeb that actually can look cute in Japanese fashion. Mikan's face really isn't cute, and her height won't make it better.

No. 630830

Mikan is a spoiled toxic grade A cunt. She desperate for e-fame and always has been. That's how she latched onto Venus (she messaged every well known kawaii jvlogger before she got to Japan). And between her and Venus she was the one who got along best with Simply_Kenna's equally toxic "smol" ass (to the point at they were almost ignoring Venus during her video). I'm guessing she's also the one who brought fucking Yukapee into their friendship circle.
It might be worth noting that on her IG during a live in March, Tsuruko said that she and Mikan weren't friends anymore and implied that Mikan was a fake friend and she shouldn't have trusted her.
I'm all for Venus having friends and Tsuruko seems like a pretty good one. And we already know that Taylor (of all people) was there for her consistently.
Mikan just reads to me as a user to me

No. 631002

>>630830
Chill anon, we don’t know anything for sure, if Milan was really all that, why Venus move with her? Let’s stop assuming Milan and venua relationship, everyone here acts like V is some sort of fragile goddess that can’t be teased.
Also if anything tsuruko always gave me the wrong vibe to be honest

No. 631458

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Guess that confirms that her time with Mikan was definitely meant to be temporary. I would think that if anything happened with Manaki, she'd probably say something by now.

No. 631460

Oh and also Mikan uploaded this.

No. 631521

for a nosejob nose, Mikan's nose look super ugly.

No. 631606

>>631460
"It's just cuz I'm British, everyone is like this here"

Well first off nobody talks in that fake posh voice she puts on, it's absolutely grating. People tease their friends but they don't frickin' declare that they hate them in the middle of a sentence. She seems like a bipolar jealous freak. It's just you Mikan.

However I think it's kind of her to let Venus stay over for a week. But don't pretend your bitchy, jealous, backstabbing attitude is normal.

No. 631627

lol venus barely escaped her crazy, hateful mother just to find like 1000 new ones on here

No. 631643

>>631606
She's definitely jealous lol, she's so ugly and venus is so cute. Telling your friend you hate them is really weird even as a joke, it's like she can't hide that she's a bitch.

No. 631734

>>631606

Her accent isn't fake at all, she really does speak like that lol

No. 631783

Anons in this thread are getting stupid by wk Venus, while talking crap about Mikan looks jeesh.
Because obviously everyone needs to be jealous of Venus
Margo clones go back to PULL
This is not a mikan thread

No. 631876

they've got a really genuine chemistry honestly.

No. 634768

okay I might be waaay off with this, but does anyone else feel like the two of them are secretly in a relationship? or is it just me? I mean I know there arent any obvious signs and there is no reason for it to be that way, i'm just wondering.

No. 634774

>>631521
I agree. I dont even want to know what her nose looked like before if this is the 'after'. it's terrible.

No. 634807

>>629269
well, it is kind of sad for her to risk her life to lose weight only to look chunky next to a naturally skinny/petite person. she tried so hard to be that and failed. that's sad. but all in all i hope she gets out of the whole situatiom happier and more confident and that comments dont bother her

No. 634808

her relationship with Manaki is so weird. does she even tell him whats wrong or talk about their problems. are they real?
did they ever even sleep together?

No. 635122

>>634807
You sound Ana-Chan, nobody “failed” at anything. There’s no “winning” an eating disorder, you don’t win with diseases- she’s sick, and that’s about it.

No. 635217

>>635122
objectively, no.
from the point of view of an ana-chan however, she did.

she should just play to her strenghts. like, her body is much more suitable for weight training/intense cardio than mikans for example. she could gain muscle easily, and stay petite while eating pretty much anything she wants. she looked super healthy and skinny while in the netherlands, where she went ice skating regularly and was forced by margo to go to gym (pretty much the only useful thing her mom ever did).
but first she'd have to accept that she doesn't have the body to stay a kawaii bmi 15 leek without forever suffering and probably dying very young.

No. 635365

>>635217
this may be a generic ana thing but i don't get the impression from venus it would ever have occurred to her to do exercise. It seems not to exist in pastel poppet world. the one time she mentioned it i'm sure she was thinking of like, a 10 minute walk

No. 635569

>>634768
Nah I also feel like there's something going on. Venus jokes about her friends being girlfriends and stealing her from manaki. In a video she was with a friend and manaki and she joked around saying "today I'm gay" and telling manaki to leave or something. Maybe it's all just inappropriate jokes but…

No. 635780

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>>634768
>>635569
Mikan has a boyfriend though

No. 636029

>>635780
A Japanese boyfriend lol. Is she using him for a visa too?

No. 636036

File: 1531568999295.jpg (88.84 KB, 750x730, cf5dkkliuz701.jpg)

Suits Venus. I do not make fun of her, I just came across this picture surprisingly.

No. 636123

>>635780
Damn Mikan is making a punchable looking face there. Plus gotta love the extreme skin whitening and fake hafu look she meitu-ed herself into.

No. 636269

>>634808
Her relationship is just normal, she has mentioned that they do talk about her problems and stuff, and its most likely that they do sleep together,
whats with anons thinking she has a secret relationship with Mikan?

>>636029
Yeah, it's weird that she is in Japan and has a Japanese boyfriend right?

No. 636830

>>636269
Are you in Japan with a visa husband too?

No. 637158

>>636029
>>636830
I don't understand why everyone assumes that because you live in another country and get a boyfriend, you're going to use them for a visa??

I didn't realise that if you move to another country you're 100% not allowed to get a partner or you're clearly using them

No. 637340

>>636830
Stop being petty.
No, I'm not.

No. 637781

>>637158
Because people date and marry others for visas all the time.

So its not that crazy to consider it.

No. 638355

>>637781
All the time but not everyone does it.
people date and marry because they like each other all the time
it's not crazy to consider it.

No. 638564

Has manaki said anything about Venus getting out of home?

No. 639000

>>638564
said where? to who? He's a japanese salaryman. his social media presence is part of 'Venus Media'. He literally doesn't speak English

No. 639220

File: 1531848075176.jpeg (218.71 KB, 1242x1443, 88011FAB-DDD1-4212-A43C-F92D52…)

Not manaki
But Venus replied to this person about leaving manaki, obviously she is not leaving him

>>639000
Manaki knows a very basic English (and as far as I know, he was learning more)
What he does has nothing to do with his will to learn the language.

No. 643187

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Venus posted this on her insta story.

No. 643232


No. 646868

Her new hair is so ugly

No. 648705

>>646868
Ikr. Her hair is always fried af, then when she gets tired of it she just gets expensive extensions every now and then

No. 649826

>>648705
She needs to grow it out, and maybe get rid of the bangs. Like im so sick of her with bangs. Like she looked good with out them.
I scrolled down her insta to find no bangs pics and it seems she got bangs right after she met mikan.

No. 649904

>>649826
lol stop it with that mikan shit.
venus always had bangs. closest to letting them grow out was when she was a blonde and living in the netherlands.
I agree that those strange bangs she has rn don't do her any favors.

so no one here went to närcon to stalk her?
that's a good sign lol

No. 649917

File: 1532829296334.jpg (1.43 MB, 1080x1080, 37169516_420361578452498_93532…)

venus is cute af, but I get the unhealthy urge to aggressively pin her down and put in some leave-in conditioner in that shitty, frizzy hair of hers.

No. 650106

>>649917
The summers in Japan are a bitch!
Humidity is high and European/Caucasian hair is not used to those levels. Esspacally bleached/dead hair will fuzz up beyond control. I tried to put some argan oil in mine and some anti frizz stuff while I was there and it still fuzzed on me. Straightening it would help for a few hours but that's it..

And I think she got it permanently straightened?! Probably damaging it more.

Not to WK, but I guess she can't do much about it other than wearing a ponytail/all her hair up.

No. 650331

>>649826
Yeah, at this point its too fried. If she's insecure about super short hair, she could always wear cute, natural looking wigs.

All that talking about her hair reminds me that phase when she died it jet black, pretending it was "her natural dark brown hair color"… Like sure jan. Its been a few monthes she dropped this gig though, so hopefully she realized it was cringy.

No. 650549

>>649904
Ffs on her insta the last pick without bangs was her w/ Milan that said I just met mikan!
That’s all I meant then it’s bangs bangs bangs ugly ass parted bangs!

No. 650572

>>650549
that was a wig

No. 650608

>>650572
Ok but I still think she look better without bangs. That’s my point.

Now I feel like I sound crazy.

No. 650954

>>650608
yeah, she definitely looks better without them. she also doesn't embrace her other nice features, and tries too hard to fit in with the weebs.
I guess growing her bangs out, dressing age appropriately and having a fit body just isn't ~*kawaii*~ enough.

No. 652272

Venus Q&A at narcon

No. 653323

>>650106
As someone who has been living in Japan for a decade, this is very true! I never had so many bad hair problems until I moved to Japan. Yes, her hair is damaged but the European structure also does not fare well with the humidity and some of the hair products are not effective for foreigners . Besides more regular deep moisture treatments at a salon, I think hair smoothing cream might work better for her than oil during the summer.

>>652272
It was understandably a little awkward at certain places but it was so refreshing to see her so laid back and eager to talk with her peers. Sometimes she was flustered but you can tell she was excited to speak freely like this. And we have confirmation that she indeed identifies as bisexual! I’m glad she feels comfortable revealing that and not being ashamed or confused. I like how frank she was about how part of her attraction to Manaki was how feminine he is and she actually stated that SHE kind of stalked his social media for months after she first met him.

I’m counting down until Margaret finds and obsesses over this Q & A video.

No. 653373

>>652272
Her body language is very cute. I'm just relieved no one asked her any inappropriate questions.

"what's the best thing you've done in your life?" "running away from home" kek

No. 653414

I hope she does more conventions and meet and greets like this so she can interact more with like-minded young people and become more comfortable with herself. She looked very happy to be there. Hopefully this opens up possibilities for her future plans and helps her cope with ED/self-esteem issues through positive activities.

No. 656335

Her instagram has been so boring lately… It's litteraly only pics of her filtered face. I liked it more when she posted pics of her going out, snacks, etc. She seems so self absorbed nowadays

No. 660752

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No. 662322

In Mikan's new video Venus actually is starting to talk back to her and you can tell she's getting tired of Mikan's self-obsessed whining and complaining…Mikan you can be funny without being a massive bitch to your friends.

No. 662690

>>662322
lol I love mikan just because she makes you obsessed lesbians rage.
we get it, venus belongs only to you uwu
mikan is an anorexic bitch, not a real woman with curves like you~~ uwu

No. 662786

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>>662690
Obsessed lesbians? Dakota… is that you?!
But speaking of lesbians, Venus does love her some yuri manga.^

Seriously, though. This thread is slow as fuck and nobody HERE has shown they are anything like you suggested. There were at most, two people that stated they didn’t like Mikan and everyone else has been neutral. Maybe you should just stick to PULL if you’re starving that bad? They have a whole thread dedicated to bashing Mikan.

No. 663604

>>662786
lol well then.

I didnt even look at her whole Q and A story. It was so long

No. 664391

Has this whole thread basically turned into 'omggg she's so cute' and supporting her

How is she making money since she isn't doing… anything?

No. 664411

>>664391
She hasnt made a video in a month. She did go to a convention but she didn't even upload any videos about it, or of it. Like a lot of other youtubers she just doesn't have a care in the world! she never seems to worry much about money.

Idk if she got paid for the convention, if she said she did I dont remember.

Also does anyone think Venus would ever have some merch, or write a table top book?

No. 665473

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Confused about her sexuality, I wonder what made her realise that, or I wonder if she always thought about it but never knew how to express it??

No. 665519

>>664391
It's just weird to see her act like a normal human being for once in her life. I think being able to be happy for someone, especially if you've been following her stuff since 2011/2012.

No. 665587

Does Venus model or something in japan? Or is it just student life and going out 24/7 with her?

No. 665729

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Holy smokes! Is anyone else into graphology? It's not a real science, but look how low that t bar is! For those not into graphology, the higher the person crosses it the higher their self esteem is, lower the t bar the worst their self esteem is.

also her handwriting is a lot messier than I expected

No. 665862

>>665729
cringe

No. 668192

>>665862
Can you expand a little more, Manaki? Right, your english sucks.

No. 668221

>>668192
nta but what the fuck? Your armchair psychology was cringey as hell, and you're digging yourself deeper now with your paranoia. You sound like margo.

No. 668573

>>668221
maybe it is margo?

No. 668744

>>668573
No I'm not Marge, thanks, nor do I support her psychotic behavior. Just because I dared to criticize your kawaii queen Penus on her very own gossip thread doesn't make me a fucking child abuser.

No. 669278

>>665729
>the higher the person crosses it the higher their self esteem is, lower the t bar the worst their self esteem is
ah yes, because her issues with binge eating and body image didn't already make that clear enough
ffs anon lol

No. 669706

>>653323
She said she's on antidepressants that sometimes have the side effect of making her sweat, plus it's been super hot in Japan, plus she's struggling with depression. Stop complaining that she's not washing her hair multiple times a day. It doesn't even look that bad. If I saw that hair on an ordinary non-model person in the street, I'd just be like, whatever.

No. 670048

>>668744
lmfao It was a joke. chill. Youre the only one losing your shit over here.

No. 671890

just by the way, i think at least part of the reason there are no videos or things from venus for a while is that there seems to have been another passing around of the vex video. There are currently a thousand 5 year olds spamming her vids with "thot" and "she claimed a copy right on a video that someone worked hard on what a bitch". It makes me angry but she's handled it before and it will die off soon enough

No. 672439


No. 672442

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>>672439
kek sorry guys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSgNzG-SuBI

meant to post this bc the intro is Venus throwing some shade uwu

No. 672706

>>672442
lol I was so confused

whoa why do venus's teeth look so discolored?

No. 675263

>>672442

I love how much shade Venus is throwing Mikan, honestly maybe that's the best way to return Mikan's constant comments which are clearly not jokes but feel shady, jealous and superficial.

Also I love how Mikan can't take either of them giving her any sass back, the exact way she does to her friends.

No. 675328

>>675263
they are jokes. She is just maybe overdoing "sarcastic English humour" because it's a bit of an act for her since she's not originally English

No. 675329

>>675263
btw why do we all speak like nasty ghetto drag queens now
>throwing shade
>spill the tea
this is fag culture can't women do our own thing

No. 675600

>>675329
Lmao, it’s not that serious. You sound butthurt.

No. 675606

>>675600
no i just think women unknowingly adopting things from drag culture which is men's parody of women is kind of.. i dunno, potentially lame.
anyway I just realised mikan and venus did a whole video about why their teasing is not
>clearly not jokes
for this anon >>675263

I also think it's a good video for the person who i saw once who said venus is 'not that pale'. In this video because she is verging on invisible lol

No. 675676

>>675606
Hm I’m not sure they mean to parody women for serious reasons (I mean their audience is even mostly women), but with that being said, thanks for explaining, I appreciate it.
Anyway - yeah, they’re not jokes and I’m surprised the ‘friendship’ has even lasted.

No. 676858

>>672442
What a boring vlog, especially when mikan and venus are just talking in different languages and pink anime wannabe is just standing there like -_-

No. 682559

So Venus meets up with Taylor and they go shopping for a birthday cake for Manaki and mother’s day gifts for Manaki’s mom, who she calls ‘mom.’ No mention of poor old marge. Marge is ghosted. Lol

No. 683193

>>682559
this vlog was actually kinda enjoyable and wholesome to watch except for Venus's outfit. Wearing lolita when you're at a cute cafe in harajuku makes sense but in a Chinese restaurant and a fancy bakery it kinda looks cringey. Especially when Taylor looks completely normal

No. 683752

>>683193
I literally wear lolita to the grocery store, the dmv… Everywhere. For a lot of girls, lolita is everyday clothes, not a costume or only for events. What was cringey to me was how ugly her coord was. That huge beret did not match.

No. 684358

that true or false video was shit

No. 686001

she's now doing ultra hyper energetic style. it's too frenetic for me i can't watch - in one bit she jumpcut the space out from between individual words in a sentence.

No. 686566

sooo.. venus is a fucking idiot that actually abuses animals now. nice.
who tf even puts two hamsters in a cage to begin with? now she has like 10, and they have to live in totally unsuitable and unsafe conditions.
why even film this shit?

next weeks video: "my hamsters dieded how could this happen ;_;"

No. 688115

watched the purple hair dying… so is this mania? is she manic or just pretending to be manic (for some reason)?

No. 688337

Or maybe that's just the actual Venus, now that the antidepressants kick in and she's less depressed…

But yeah, it also does seem like mania.

No. 688531

>>686566
I never had hamsters for pets, im not into tiny, rat like animals, but arent they really territorial and each need their own cage?
Or is that only certain types of hamsters?

No. 688535

venus looks like crap, can see get some decent lighting in a video?

No. 688565

>>688337
She makes so many mistakes and leaves them all in, it's hard to watch

No. 688574

>>682559
Same anon as >>688565
I lovee the video with Taylor, it's edited so well, please more of that (vlogs in Japan/outdoors) and less hyper videos at home.

No. 688640

>>688337
>the actual venus
dunno if you're young but.. no adult in real life is like that

No. 688655

>>688640
*no mentally healthy adult that grew up normally, you mean.

No. 688699

>>688531
yeah, they're all very territorial and solitary.
there are some breeds that get along better, but you never know when they could turn on each other.. especially in super tiny cages like this. one of these little shits needs at least 1m² of space, or more..

that's why I think venus just isn't that nice of a person. she doesn't care about the needs of her animals, she just gets them because they're cute and thats it. and an underpaid store employee told her that those shitty plastic cages with bad ventilation are good enough, so it's ok!

No. 688708

>>688115
she does seems different from her usual hyper self.
the slurring, glassy eyes, and kinda puffy face.. maybe she's drinking?
could also be mania though.. that would explain the sudden energy and motivation to put out a video every day.

No. 688719

>>688699
She's probably just trusting whatever the employee said. I don't think being stupid in itself makes you a bad person. Did anybody tell her yet that hamsters need space?

No. 688728

File: 1537014104508.png (1.04 MB, 1125x658, vham.png)

>>688719
fans have told her since july 2017 (when she still only had one hamster), to which her response was getting more cages and connecting them through tubes.

No. 688734

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>>688719
>>688728
… that must have been only temporary to make her look good, though. because in her new video around 10 hamsters were sharing a single cage before she seperated them.

on another note: hamsters have always growing teeth and need stuff to chew on (besides food), that's why the plastic shit she puts inside the cage is actually bad for them. every hamster needs its own stuff, or they will fight each other.
and you will note that the only opening for air is at the top… but she stacked those cages.

people have told her all this multiple times.

No. 688735

>>688734
Welp, I see.

No. 689169

what do you all suggest she do then now she's saddled with 10? 10 1mx1m cages? her whole apartment?

No. 689369

>>689169
give them to a shelter? it's not like their living conditions could worsen there.
their only happiness in life right now is just food, while they sit in their ammonia filled cage, having to fight someone every time they want to drink water.
the point was that venus is a shit person who doesnt give a shit about anything. you can always tell the real character of a person when you see how they treat defenseless animals.

No. 689397

Obviously getting rid of them won't help them, as cages this size are normal in Japan. As if a shelter would put each hamster in its own giant cage. It's a slightly unfortunate situation but she's dealt with it as well as what's reasonably possible. You seriously need some perspective. Of all the world's rodents Venus's hamsters are probably in the top % when it comes to living conditions and they should be the least of anyone's worries.

No. 689411

>>689397
last time I checked lolcow was for shittalking people, and that's what I do. venus herself is also in the top % when it comes to living conditions, so I guess there's no need to feel bad for or defend her either?

I'll laugh my ass off when one day she stops mentioning them, and later we catch a glimpse of those cages in a video and there's like only one left..

No. 689436

Horrible logic. If the reason why people felt bad for Venus was due to her living conditions, then yes, that would be dumb, for the same reason as feeling bad for pampered rodents is dumb. Why would you laugh your ass off if the hamsters died? I thought you cared about their welfare.

No. 689809

>>689397
The thing is, if she had not gotten two hamsters and had not kept them in the same cage, she wouldn't have to deal with that many hamsters to begin with. It just shows that she either
a) didn't get informed at all about hamsters before getting them - because it's literally the most basic thing that there is to know; hamsters should be kept alone - and there's no excuse for that
or
b) she just chose to not give a single fuck about those animals. Which would be even shittier.

And like… Is she literally that dumb to not realise a male and female are going to breed at some point?

But back to your lame-ass apologies.
Just because animal abuse is normalised in countries like Japan, doesn't make it okay. If you don't have room to keep an animal in appropriate living conditions, don't get one. Simple as that.
And even if they don't face better living conditions in a shelter, they at least have a /chance/ to have a better life, whereas this way they'll die in about a year. Tops.

No. 690062

>>689809
> And like… Is she literally that dumb to not realise a male and female are going to breed at some point?
While you shouldn't overestimate her intelligence, she did explain that she thought the hamster she had was female and she got another female one so that they wouldn't breed. She was wrong about her first hamster.

No. 690083

anons and youtube comments has made it sound like an obvious fact that every hamster ownder knows - that a single hamster isn't lonely and doesn't want a companion. So anyone got speculation as to what would motivate her to get a second one in the first place?

No. 690091

>>689809

You're an idiot.

No. 690093

I've done some research on dwarf hamsters and pretty much everything I've read says that they are social animals and it's totally fine to keep two of the same breed together, especially if they're introduced at a young age. So hamster rights activists can chill.

No. 690144

>>690091
>>690093

so you've read some answers on yahoo, or asked your aunt betty? because there is no reputable source that would ever state this.
stop it venus, just admit you don't give a fuck or ignore it, but don't try to give us this bullshit.

No. 690186

There are countless reputable sources stating that it's fine or even advised, I really don't know what you're on about, genuinely not sure if you're trolling.

No. 690195

>>690186
when you reply click on the post number so it links in your post

No. 690257

>>690186
yea sure, just keep making claims without providing proof. maybe we will get bored and stop arguing, which will somehow make you right.

http://research.fiu.edu/documents/facilities/acf/documents/hamster-biology-husbandry.pdf -> page 20 - caging and environment: "Usually housed individually due to aggressive nature"

found this here after 2 seconds, should be easy enough to understand even for you since it's a presentation. there's more if you google it.
there are so many stories of people who found their hamster mauled to death in the morning, just in the comments of venus' video. but I guess they're all wrong, since you FEEL it's ok!

No. 690264

>>690083
I've always got the impression that venus is rather simple and materialistic.
like the kind of person that has to buy some useless shit every day to feel good, and doesn't really think much about things. she has attempted to be deep a few times before, which was pretty embarassing to watch.. she doesn't seem to have well formed opinions on anything.
+ I remember her mentioning a few times how she loooves studying/implying she's secretly very smart, and how good her money management skills are.. so I'm inclined to believe the opposite (just like someone coming up to you and randomly stating that they're "a good person" for example.. kinda fishy)

so I believe she basically got a hamster 'cause it's cute and she needed some new shit.

No. 690278

>>690264
everything you wrote has nothing to do with my question of why she'd get a second one if it's so well known they don't get along (but i don't
disagree with your assessments)

No. 690296

>>690278
I meant to say that she probably didn't think very hard about it, and didn't inform herself about hamsters before buying the first or the second one.
probably just strolled in a petshop, and the store employee was like "oh yes, you should totally get a second one, they will be such great buddies!".. most people working in such a store don't care. they probably have to throw away dead hamsters all the time (happens even in countries where animal welfare is a thing).

No. 690852

>>690257

It is only golden aka Syrian hamsters that are strictly solitary. Venus does not have golden hamsters. Other dwarf hamsters are social (although obviously any animal sometimes can fight). Dwarf hamsters are even widely used to study the role of biochemistry in bonding, due to their social nature. It seems like a lot of people fail to make the distinction between hamster species. Perhaps you should do some research rather than spending 2 seconds finding a random presentation. Here are some references.

"Syrian hamsters, also known as golden or teddy bear hamsters, MUST be kept alone. One Syrian hamster per cage—no exceptions! Dwarf species like to live in pairs."
https://www.aspca.org/sites/default/files/upload/images/hamster_edu.pdf

"female dwarf hamsters (Phodopus sungorus campbelli), a gregarious species"
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0163104786902542

"Most small rodent species kept as pets are social animals, also dwarf hamsters, with the exception of the solitary golden hamster. A person cannot replace a conspecific i.e. social partner, therefore these rodents must be housed in groups with conspecifics all the time."
http://www.animal-protection.net/sites/factsheets/kleinnager.pdf

"Siberian dwarf hamsters form monogamous male-female pair bonds. Disruption of the pair bond results in increases in body mass and behavioral alterations similar to profiles seen in human atypical depression."
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0031938496004568

"Social hamster species should be housed with their cage mates."
https://www.vettimes.co.uk/app/uploads/wp-post-to-pdf-enhanced-cache/1/guide-to-care-and-treatment-of-rats-mice-gerbils-and-hamsters.pdf

No. 691004

>>690083
I would guess she just goes to pet stores to look at pets. I had a friend that wanted to come with me to the mall when i needed to run errands and she wasted a hour of my time so she can play with pet shop puppies and talk to the employees. She wanted to buy one too but this stupid bitch lived in a dorm, had no job and no money.(the dog was a few hundred dollars)
i think thats what Venus does. Goes to pet shops, goes "cuuuuqqqte" and gets talked into buying pets by employees.

No. 691213

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Why does she go out of her way to look and act like a six-year-old smol child? What is her deal?

No. 691723

>>691213
I'd say it's either due to her fetishization of the Japanese culture, but since she isn't japanese it just seems forced. Or it's part of an mental health issue - not wanting to grow up, be responsible for anything etc.
Or both.

No. 691794

>>691213
Lol it looks like her tits are bound to look small chested

No. 691805

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>>691213
this is the same shirt.. did she pin it in the back?

No. 691820

>>691213
It bugs me that she does this but than shes all like this isnt what im doing, im not a kid!

I think she has some real issues and is trying to reclaim her childhood or something

No. 691911

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No. 692031

>>691213
You seem to know some weird looking 6-yos, kek. Don't women even older than Venus like to dress cutely in Japan? They do fetishize youth over there for sure, but not everyone who likes cute things is an evil age player if that's what you mean. Sometimes clothes are just clothes.

No. 692122

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>>691213
I mean…

No. 692124

>>692031
>Sometimes clothes are just clothes.

Are… Are you for real? Have you ever watched any of her videos?
She literally goes out of her way to act like a child. She even binds her breasts to make herself look more flat-chested than she actually is and you're still saying this is totally normal behaviour?

No. 692514

>>691213
tbh I've always thought it was just her youtube-persona. she needs to stand out somehow, and what else besides acting like a toddler and looking cute can she bring to the table?
she's not funny or has any interesting ideas - at least that's my opinion.
or does anyone think people would still watch her videos if she looked and acted like the average person?

No. 693050

>>692514
I think she would be better as a normal girl who just happened to like really cute things, and did cute gestures.maybe be a bit more subtle, than she wouldn't come off as a try hard.

shes definitely not funny, some of her video ideas have been ok, but imo her baby personality is very off putting. Like its fine to be an adult and enjoy childish things, but…idk

No. 693604

>>692124
Are you one of those people who think lolitas are age players and wear children's clothes? It might have something to do with her eating disorder, but mental disorders are hell so I really wouldn't blame her for it. Binding her breasts, I think, is most definitely a body image issue thing. Doesn't mean she tries to act like an actual kid, tho. She's just messed up and has a weird and often inappropriate sense of humor.

No. 694178

>>689397
>Of all the world's rodents Venus's hamsters are probably in the top % when it comes to living conditions

Ily farmers

No. 694776

>>694178
not that person but isn't that obvious? are you forgetting the wild ones that cycle eternally plague breeding and then mass starvation?

No. 694870

>>694776
I agree with Anon, I just like how they phrased it.

Watched this video >>691911
And it's really good, even the Logan Paul references were funny and tasteful (if that is possible in the context).
I like how she was obviously subtly emotional about the forest and whimsy and so on. I hope she spends more time with her friends as it seems good for her.

No. 696231

>>691723
>>691213
>>691820
Agreed, I think she's emotionally/developmentally stunted, trying to reclaim her childhood as other anons have offered seems likely to me. Of course it could also be a marketing thing, as >>692514 suggested. Standing out on youtube is hard and she has a pre-built online identity to fall back on that can compensate for her otherwise non-engaging screen presence. She's been pegged into that hole for so long she might not know how otherwise to be. I remember threads back people suggested she could have gone in a crafting or cute housewife direction which would have had more longevity and been more engaging compared to her current content.

Am I the only one that likes Manaki's videos better? He actually has a sense of humor even despite his stilted English.

No. 696793

>>694870

tbh I found the logan paul references in her vid to be distasteful and as a cheap attempt to try and get more views.

No. 702131

I know venus can be weird, but is anyone else concerned about this video? Even the comments are questioning if she's manic right now and tbh, I don't blame them. What is even going on with her mental health lately?

No. 702217

>>702131

Not so much concerned with her mental health as that video is either a desperate attempt at being "fun and entertaining" or more likely, a "jab" at the viewers who say things like she's bipolar, manic, mental, emotionally stunted etc. Sadly, she is not unlike her mother. She strikes me as a very vindictive and passive aggressive person (just better at being subtle about it unlike her mom,the petty things she does are so subtle, many viewers wouldn't even notice). So not surprised she'd do this, as she obviously reads all the gossip threads about her, yet "pretends" she doesn't care what anyone thinks. So yeah, the video looks satirical and a jab at those who said those things about her.

Personally, don't like her like I used to when the "wool was still pulled over my eyes". She just strikes me as a fake, attention-seeking, petty, egocentric, somewhat manipulative, vain person(can't stand the way she always squints her eyes to create a larger "aegyo sal" or the way she's always checking herself out in the cam, I mean even in her "I'm so depressed dont wanna die" vid). She tries much too hard to be this "cutesy" person, it always feels disingenuous, though I suppose it's not surprising given she wanted to be know for being cute as a little girl, and therefore "practiced" this persona (aka: the period stained underwear vid she accidentally uploaded which was just her staring at herself practicing cutesy poses/faces etc).

I dunno, she mostly just seems to care about money and "appearing good" to the public. I get YT is a job and she needs money somehow, but I mean, she'll even use her family drama just to get views (aka more money), going so far as to put up a thumbnail where she's visibly distressed, melodramatically shaking on camera for the drama/pity and genuine viewers will actually be concerned for her, a girl who just posted that for money (and probs a jab at margo (though understandable, still petty)). Or the surgery vid. She kept click-baiting the title and thumbnail, changing it to trick viewers into clicking and giving her more views/money, yet she claims the vid was merely to "help people". What a load of bs. Money is what drives her and she would never share a story and "be honest" if she wasn't certain she could spin it into a positive light(aka amazing, strong, inspirational, totally honest venoos). "Redemption" stories are a big thing on YT and she definitely capitalized on that (she was at her most popular during that time too).

Sorry for the rant but she just screams disingenuous. Like I remember when she said she didn't share her finances with manaki because "venoos would never burden him with her bills". What she really meant (and completely voluntarily shared to glorify herself) was "I make more money so I'm not going to share my fiances with him". And if, by chance she was solely referring to her hospital bills, she still voluntarily shared that info with her viewers, again, just to "appear good", which is something narcissistic people who want to glorify themselves would do.

Like I used to see her as totally genuine before I noticed all the subtleties. She kind of reminds me of Maergery from Game of Thrones now, who was mostly nice (but attention-seeking) with some subtle petty jabs here and there, but in the end, Maergery was still very fake, solely interested in glorifying herself and "appearing good".

It's sad b/c I find myself sympathizing with her at times, then noticing her disingenuousness at other times.

Also, seriously hope margaret was just lying when she shared that text where venus supposedly said (paraphrasing)"if you're cute and thin you can get away with anything". Like pls be a lie. She can't be that manipulative. It would be so disappointing if that's the way she thinks. And hopefully, if she did at one point, she doesn't think that way anymore.

But all in all, I hope that vid was just a random vid or attempt at being "fun and interesting". If she really IS manic or something, she should consider taking a break again to reflect. If it's just a jab (like I think) at comments on here and other forums, she should be ashamed, as most of those comments seem to be from genuinely concerned viewers.

No. 702355

>>702131
i think she is mentally cracked but simultaneously playing it up because she finds it funny.

No. 702449

>>702217
agree with everything, but
>the petty things she does are so subtle, many viewers wouldn't even notice
what kind of petty things?

and it's obvious that she lies all the time. wasn't she still telling everyone with a straight face how she's naturally skinny, etc a year after leaving margo? the truth about her ed only came out after she was hospitalized.. I guess it was just too good a story not to make videos of.
what about those "omg, I speak ((20 standard sentences and maybe about 100 words in)) 8 languages fluently!!"-claims?
she will also still probably insist on having a natural high-pitched 11-yo animu-voice when she's 40.
and no way anyone is ever gonna believe her about her "studies","side projects" or whatever productive thing she's claiming she's doing atm instead of lazing around the house (seeing as venus is super proud of a sticker book (ngl it's cute), and otherwise sharing every mundane idea she has, I'm preeetty sure we would have heard about it all the time).

the questions are.. isn't everyone doing this on youtube? would all those things even matter if the drama with margo never happened, and is she actually milky on her own?

No. 702456

I don’t think she’s lazing around, she has depression, that’s different, she lies a lot but i can believe her depression seeing who’s her mother, and that everything in her life relays on her relationship, if anything goes wrong she doesn’t even have a real home country (I mean, Swiss I guess but she wasn’t raised there so it should be weird idk) to go back to. So the depression thing I totally get.
Anyway her situation is bad and I don’t think she’s very milky herself, it’s rather sad to watch (not saying this to diminish her) her dark downfall, hope she’s indeed doing something out of internet cause I don’t think is the best to expose yourself so much when you have mental disorders and a vengeful mother after you. Idk but I’ve always imagined her doing something related to cook and culinary, I used to love the few cooking videos I saw from her and becoming a cook would be a brilliant way to gain life with her passion (food), then she could build a real career and feel more safe/ have perspectives. Hope I’m right and she’s able to do something only for herself alone

No. 702508

>>702456
>her passion (food)
i think someone with a bunch of EDs and consequent digestive problems should get any hobby in the fucking world except something that's to do with food. imagine just carving a dolls house out of wood, or sewing a scarf, and how that has not the slightest thing to do with your fucking body

No. 703008

1-I don't follow marge on anything so I never saw that text but "when your thin and cute" sounds like something venus would say.
2-Just cause you have depression doesn't mean you aren't lazying around
3- The views for her last like 10 videos are garbage
4-I just absolutely can not stand the thumbnail for her 30 lies video, I just hate it! I mean her thumbnails have taken a noise dive as of late, but that one…I really dislike, and if you're looking at all videos then her i dont want to die video is right underneath it and it completely makes her look crazy.
5-Also I don't think Venus is funny, so if she was trying to make jabs or something it's not very obvious.IMO

No. 703064

>>703008
what are you replying to?

No. 703133

boy.. I can't wait till her youtube-money dries up while she gets increasingly desperate, and then has to find a real job.
can you imagine her working in a convenience store? with that fake voice, falsies, circle lenses, and probably some weeb shit in her hair?
it will help with her depression tho. like, how is it supposed to ever get better just by her taking some meds and sitting at home, reading what other people say on lolcow?
nobody ever got better by being a neet. it only gets worse over time tbh (I can say that not only from personal experience).

No. 703175

she seems to have gone out and been normal with her friend. making normal posts on i.g. etc. So.. if you're doing good, why upload and leave up worrying slurring manic videos? Oh well i don't know what ideas she has that she thinks are good ideas, she still has up other drunk videos like the one where she slurred some waffle about how gay people are all right

No. 704025

>>703133
A convenient store in Japan, like that? Doubt it.

I’m surprised she has done nothing with modeling or something of the sort with Lolita brand (or dolly clothes or wtf she calls it). It’s something a lot of girls who go to Japan do…the ones I’ve seen anyway, that don’t go to Japan for just a semester abroad.

No. 704086

Guess what video she just posted?

No. 704098

>>704086
one about youtube comments. so what?

No. 704122

>>704098
You are so much fun, like a wet blanket.

No. 704172

>>704122
fuck off, there's enough to talk about in her recent state and videos without needing to pretend she's paying attention to us squee

No. 704738

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looks like she accidently uploaded one of her very old videos but took it down quickly when she found out lol

No. 705201

>>704172
what? You make as much sense as the idiots that write venus love letters in her comment section.

No. 705331

>>704086
interesting.. does she even get that many negative comments? I didn't see any nasty comments on facebook or youtube (besides that hamster video). Isn't lolcow pretty much the only place where people openly criticize her?
even so, I've never seen anything as bad as "kill yourself" on here.
So what the hell is she talking about?

No. 705341

>>705331
she doesn't get negative comments, she just wants to play the victim again

No. 705347

>>705331
cringe you idiot, it's obvious you are the same person who wrote this >>704086. Let it go - do you even read this site? There is maybe one post about her per day, and only about 1/3 of them are negative. She specifically said she was talking about youtube comments (and facebook, which is odd though, because I didn't even know she has a fabebook page).

>>705341
she didn't really play victim (what do you mean again?), she said If you put yourself out there on the internet negative comments are going to happen and you have to accept it. The 'off' part of the video was where she started saying how much she hates herself, which was awkward and depressing and coy and annoying. I would find this annoying even if I was her fan because it's like someone begging you to compliment them (which is not the same as playing the victim)

No. 705348

>>705347
>>705331
oh and by the way, you guys might not have noticed because it seems nobody was looking at her old videos over the last big break from output, but for at least several weeks there were thousands of retard kids posting
>FUCK THIS THOT.
>SHE A THOT.
>What the fuck is this bitch??
>She steals money from creators who work hard with copyright!! THOT
hundreds of times because it seems a hate video about her did a round of getting recommended or something and I think she must have briefly been a meme on some site hence thot thot thot

No. 705397

>>705348
I feel bad for her.. then again, her channel seems to bring in more money than working minimum wage and she doesn't have to leave her room, so I guess it's a small price to pay tbh.
she should be smug about those 12yo's that probably don't know how adblockers work and bring her even more views.

No. 705955

any reason why she is speaking and acting like a toddler when she starts playing video games? she has some serious age regression issues going on, i hope she gets help

No. 706017

>>705955
yeah i didn't love the baby talk but on the other hand, since she mentions that she was proud of uploading a video a day this week and wants to continue doing that, could it be that the one or two off seeming videos were merely…rushed?

No. 706030

>>705955
Well, at least now we know what she does all day.

No. 706454

I wish she would get a fucking job or go back to school or something. What does she actually do all day?

No. 706585

>>705955
what is the target audience for this?
it's just… depressing

No. 706754

This is too much.. she's acting like a 5 year old

No. 706823

>>706754
her behavior has been utterly bizarre and kind of disturbing in her last few videos…
i wonder if these short videos of her acting manic are meant to be some weird halloween stunt (she started uploading these vids on october 1st) or if i'm being too optimistic

No. 706858

>>706754
she obviously is age regressing and trying to maintain being a child but the fact is that she a grown married woman, you can't stay young forever and i think the reson she behaves, dresses and talks like a child is because she can't accepet the fact that she's now an adult and finds it easier to be a child

No. 706860

>>706754
i find it really embarrassing because she clearly looks her age without the makeup and it's so cringy to think in her mind she actually thinks she fooling people that she's a little girl when in fact everyone can see she's just a women drssed in little girl clothes and acting like a little girl, i really don't know how manaki can go out in public with her, i would be humiliated to have my partner pretend to be a child

No. 706863

>>706754
doesn't anyone find it alarming that her behavior is getting younger and younger? she used to act like a preteen but now shes gone right down to a toddler and soon she will be acting like a baby

No. 707059

>>706860
I mean… she does have a fairly large apologetic following that will excuse anything because evil evil Margarine treated her so badly :(
Plus all the Wannabe-Manaki-Weebs that fetishize this kind of stuff as much as she does.

It's the same as with Bunny Meyer (grav3yardgirl); as long as there's an audience, there's not enough reason for her to change. She lives through her internet-persona, this character is such a huge part of her life that it has become part of her personality as well.
She needs to get off all (public) social media, go to therapy and focus on what's there besides YouTube and social media.

No. 708522

>>706754
What kinda crap content is this. I’m sorry but who watches this??? It’s just her acting like a baby playing with a toddler toy

No. 710306

>>707059
I don't think it will happen as long as youtube is giving her money. It seems to be a fairly large sum, too.
Margo was living super comfortably with that money back in the day (eating out every day, tacky and expensive shit..), and venus herself said she's earning more than manaki and so could pay her hospital bills herself.

Sad to see she's killing her income by putting out retarded videos like this.

No. 710319

So glad venus cares about her hamsters after all!
She also seems pretty normal in this, so I guess her weird videos were.. just her kind of humor?

No. 711791

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>>710319
Now she wants to die.

No. 711806

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>>711791
that was for 30 minutes or so

No. 711962

At this point I honestly can't tell anymore if she's actually psychotic (maybe due to her meds, if that video with the antidepressants was for real) or just doing that for attention.

This very impulsive kind of behaviour also reminds me of my birth control induced depression.

No. 712541

She doesn't care about her hamsters, she just cares about "seeming" like she does for her public image and for content of course. She didnt even notice her hamster had babies initially, that is a neglectful and irresponsible pet owner. Shes the type to get a hamster " just cuz they're cute" and to prove margo wrong of course.

No. 712547

>>710319

That pic for the suicide post is old, probs around the time she went to narcon. Looks to me she was like "im gonna make a dark post, whats the most dark/emo pic of myself i can find". A person truly depressed in the moment doesnt do that. Shes looking for pity/attention again as the follow up to that post seems so "planned". Either that or she really is bipolar or manic or her meds are having some effect on her.

Also lately in her content she keeps mentioning her "haters". Im assuming shes referring to sites like these rather than yt or fb like she mentioned as she doesnt get much hate there (unless shes deleting comments regularly).

Found it annoying she mentioned there are videos out there "slandering" her (most notibly the vexxed vid) yet she CHOSE to take the ad revenue off that vid instead of force vexxed to take it down. Then she publicly complains about it. Talk about greedy then playing the victim. Jesus.

No. 712568

>>712547
>Im assuming shes referring to sites like these rather than yt or fb like she mentioned as she doesnt get much hate there
Don't fucking start with this again. You so desperately wish she notices us. One post per day here and 3/4 of them not negative

>>712541
and the hamster white-knight of is back

No. 712988

>>712568

FYI, this website is not a Venus fansite so anyone can talk about whatever they like about her. I guess you just cannot handle someone talking badly about your queen.

And, nope I’m not the anons above.

No. 713044

>>712988
I even didn't say anything defensive of Venus? Just against anons delusions of importance. Unless you mean about the hamsters - I just don't care to read the same sperg about hamsters over and over again

No. 714286

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venus should finally decide if she's ~going to be herself from now on~, or mold her persona to her followers wishes. because doing both is what makes her seem manic and unstable.
actually it would be smarter to just seperate her private life from business - which her youtube/instagram is, no use pretending she's just doing it for all those lovely fans and because it's just so much fun!! uwu
she's obviously tired of it all

No. 720370

>>712988
This girl is so stunted and fucked up it surprises me there are so many people defending her. Is it just PULLfaggots who want to live vicariously through her? Her husband isn't even attractive.

No. 723461

>>720370
Seconded

No. 723463

>>720370
Seconded

No. 726754

Do you think something happened? She hasn't updated in a while… With halloween and everything it's strange

No. 726831

>>726754

Probably. Her life is a fucking mess. I wouldn't be surprised if she had a mental breakdown.

No. 726935

>>726754
she said on twitter that she's working on a new video.. two weeks ago.
I just hope it's not a serious video about her mental illness or something cringy like that.
stop telling over 100k strangers all about your personal shit, venus. it only works for your friend taylor because she leads a cool life and doesn't have real problems.

No. 727590

I think she's in another country because there's no way this ugly pizza place on her twitter is in Japan (there's also french language on that poster)

No. 728100

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Depression must had been crushing her hard that she stopped looking after her hygiene, and it seems like it been a while.

I'm not sure if she noticed it or not, but I wouldn't assume that she is the kind to show the world that she doesn't shave.

No. 728107

>>723461
>>723463
This isn't reddit.

No. 728117

>>720370
Ive been saying it from the get go after she left Margo

She’s fucked in the head and problematic and everyone pretends she’s fine

She isn’t

Clearly isn’t and it’s worrying how a young woman acts the way she does. Not even in a cute way but… she’s just a mess

No. 728281

>>728117
Agree she’s ‘fucked in the head’ but it’s because of Margo the psycho freak, not because she left.

No. 728396

>>728117
okay no one

on here

thinks she's fine

so fuck off with repeating your mantra

we get it

No. 728613

>>728100
Oh god noooooo

I dont want to be that anon but.. does mana even touch her at all?
or give a single shit anymore?
I mean, sure, he probably works a lot, but is this really the best kind of care he can give her? she was walking around with greasy hair for months, looks like shit due to malnutrition,…
not like he alone could cure her depression, but you know it's pretty much over when you can't bring your partner to practice basic hygiene and shave for you anymore… or just don't care to do it.

No. 728621

>>728613
I don't try to defend Venus but why is bad higiene if she doesn't shave? Just because she doesn't shave her armpits doesn't mean she is dirty or that she and her husband aren't fucking anymore.some people don't shave is not that weird.
Venus needs people in her life who stop enabling her childish actitudes , because she is just making herself more insecure, it seems all her life revolves around the fact that she is " cute looking" she is always making this stupid faces trying to be cute, it makes me crazy , I'm.not saying she has to stop liking cute things and clothes, but she should know they are more things in life than looking cute .

No. 729126

New video.

No. 729456

>>729126
Some of these are just sad. I don't get where she's heading content-wise or why she still bothers. And she looks so… unhealthy? I don't know how to explain it but there's an offputting feeling I can't shake off. I'm starting to really feel bad for her again, and last time I did was when she was still with her mother.

No. 729597

>>729456
maybe crafting things is part of her self-therapy (I did this and it helped)? and she was like, okay, I'm already doing this, might as well make a video

No. 733186

remember venus angelic?

No. 734380

>>728396

Fuck off yourself

I posted once?

She’s fucked up. Get over it.

No. 734382

>>728281

She was weird before the drama with her mother. She’s generally odd. But Margo made her worse.

No. 734383

>>729456

She’s nothing else to do? She doesn’t work and just dicks around. So any shit will do now. It’s like that now with most youtubers

No. 736676

>>728613
>>728100
>>728621
It's pretty common in Japan/China/Korea for women to not shave their underarms, that's more of a western thing. However you'd think Manaki would have noticed her swollen bright red stomach at some point

No. 737077

>>734382
i can't get over that a post was made on this board by an alien or AI, or at least some kind of entity that doesn't understand biological reproduction. If you are messed up by having a psycho parent, there is no point 'before' this lmao. Before that you weren't alive

No. 737516

Her new video is… weird? I mean, weirder than normal. She looks beyond tired, and depressed, I guess? Not even trying to pull the bubbly persona, and the make up is so mature for her usual tastes. What is going on?

But even though it's "out of character", I like this make up on her, sorta. But this video definitely has an eerie aura, idk.

No. 738144

>>737516
yea no shit the makeup is different than what she usually wears and "not her usual tastes", that's because shes clearly making fun of those videos that have been going around of asian girls pulling a fake nose and chin off their face

No. 738515

>>737516
Her attitude is 100% just a dig at those people that tell her to grow up and behave more maturely.
She's obviously unable to sit back and reflect the comments she overexaggerates it in a sense that makes all her uwu fans go 'but why would you want her to be depressed like that?'. Because obviously there's no way to act maturely without being dead inside.

No. 740044

I noticed that her videos in the last two months didn't get many views at all… are people not interested in her anymore?

No. 740063

>>740044

she went back to makeup stuff lately. her latest video seems very "margo era-ish" with the dolly stuff and voice over.

she's desperate for views and probably hoping she'll get more with that style like she did in the past.

i notice her instagram is a bunch of different looks as well - doll, natural, professional, edgy. going from one look to another seems to get her more likes and the attention she's desperate for.

this girl should really get a real job. but i guess venus is "too good" to work in a cafe or retail or something. (and too greedy). she wants the easy way.

at the very least i hope she keeps her yt professional and her personal life out of it. i cant stand all these youtubers milking their "problems" for pity, attention, views and money, and then claiming it's to "help people". what a load of crap and venus jumped on that bandwagon and reaped the temporary benefits.

No. 740076

>>740063

The makeup in that video is so bad she has to use blurring to make it look ok. she never was good at makeup (face makeup in particular)& she has the audacity to brush off comments like that as if they're completely invalid (in her vid with mizuki). The amount of concealer and powder she sloped on makes me want to cry. And it looks dry as fuck. Imagine irl. And you can see the color corrector through the foundation. Yikes!

No. 740470

This video feels like she hasn't changed from when she did those makeup tutorials at 14.
"I look soo much like a doll desu~"
"My skin is soo pale"

Dors she really believe she naturally looks like a doll, even after leaving margot? Just being white and having a nice face doesn't make you a doll, anyone can be one then. It would be nice if she realized that the doll shtick is dead, will she still pretend to be one when she'll be 30?

No. 740517

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I dont get it.. what's the point of putting on a super cute dress, and caking yourself in makeup, if your nails and eyebrows look like… this?
she should get her eyebrows done and maybe some gel nails instead of buying usueless plastic shit and burando.
pretty nails, eyebrows and teeth always come first, they're not an afterthought, venus jfc
just throwing around money on expensive shit, thinking it will automatically make her pretty is such a trashy margo mentality

No. 741115

what happened to her good microphone rip my ears

No. 741401

>>740517

tbh the eyebrows don't bother me at all, I think that's a bit of a nitpick. But the nails, holy damn.

No. 741708

>>740517
Is her thumb just swollen? I noticed in the photo that Venus has a stubby thump very similar to Megan Fox. I might be wrong though, as I have to see more photos showing her hands.

As for her makeup skills, I remember her ganguro one was quite cringy for me.

She uploaded another Korean makeup video a while ago.

No. 741775

>>741401
>tbh the eyebrows don't bother me at all
how about now lol (have a look at the new video)

No. 741788

>>741708
oops, typo….stubby thumb.

>>741775
Her eyebrows shaved & in the video looks so weird now.

No. 741799

>>740517
i think she uses some wrong settings in her video software that actually makes the contrast higher because all her closeups look like when they crank it up in tim and eric etc. to create a grotesque effect

No. 741840

>>741799

no that's just how people look up close, you can see all the pores, grooves, dry patches, hairs etc. from far its harder to tell, especially if the people use facial blurring, so i dont think it's the contrast. just lighting and the closeness.

No. 741842

She posted another really bad makeup video. The way she does her face makeup is soooo bad, no wonder she has so many wrinkles for her age (mostly around her eyes due to the amount of makeup she puts there). I hope none of her followers do makeup like that. Especially korean makeup which is supposed to be "barely there" face makeup but hers (as usual) looks so dry and cakey. Why do people who know nothing about what they're doing even bother to post videos. Either be skilled at makeup or don't post "tutorials". And of course, she needs to use face blurring and makeup apps to change her features. One of her worst makeup vids to date.

And the eyebrows, jesus! all you need to do for straight brows is down comb them and dry a line from the slight arc and extend it both ways and it looks straight, without being too thick as well. at least she told people not to do that but still, terrible tutorial. she should stick to vlogs if she's not skilled at anything in particular.

No. 741880

So she's back at it with her ~korean girl~ tutorials. She could have just titled it "korean style" or "korean trends", but I guess it aint enough for her yellow fever.

No. 742154

>>741840
you think i've never seen a face close up lol. but you're right it could be lighting (bad lighting, good lighting will make pores hardly visible)

No. 742189

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>>741880
she changed it to "korean makeup hacks" now after the rageclick boost.

but anyway i just don't understand why you would spend 40 minutes fiddling with 7 layers of skin makeup to go from left to right

No. 742399

>>740517
I wasn't that bothered by her eyebrows but I was bothered by those fucking thumbs. They're clubbed looking and bulbous. I was like "Jesus christ Venus" take some care before you upload a video. Then again she always looks like she needs a good bath, a hot dinner and some colour in her cheeks. She always looks pale, sickly and thin. It's horrible.

No. 742402

>>740470

I agree the doll thing is dead. Even Dakota bailed on that shit, got herself a bad new hair cut and ditched the kawaii clothes. A lot of the Japanese trends right now is like from BIS magazine, the cable knits, curly cute bobs. It's more grown up. No one really cares about dolly looking things anymore.

No. 742404

>>740063

I think Venus would suit working on a kids TV show or doing voice overs for anime or some shit like that. She's a bright and colourful character. Youtube on the side. But I don't know what she will do when she's older… she needs a back up.

No. 742451

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What triggers me most about her make up video is that she applies purple colour correction under her eyes.

Colour correction is supposed to cancel out the tones, that's why you apply green on the red parts of your face. Trying to cancel out purple/blue/green-ish dark circles under your eyes with purple doesn't make sense.

Also jfc what's so hard about cleaning your nails before doing close ups?

I'm genuinely wondering if she's losing it now. She doesn't seem psychotic or anything but SOMETHING is off. She does know how to do her make up. She could do much better eyebrows than those she has done. She does know how to record videos (lightning wise etc). I can't quite put my finger on it.

No. 742471

She's just forcing herself to make videos now.
Whenever she tries to actually have fun with them (like the telephone-babyspeak one) everyone freaks out, people unsubscribe from her channel.
So she has to decide whether to do what she wants and become irrelevant, or keep it professional and treat it as work.
Seeing as she can't even do her youtube-"work" properly, there's not a chance she could ever survive a real job, so there's no choice than to periodically shit out these videos her fans love so much (like bad makeup videos).

I just wonder why she needs this money SO badly, to the point where she is sacrificing her sanity. Having money to buy cute shit can't be worth it making yourself the laughingstock of thousands of people.

No. 742626

>>742471
But as I said; it's not like all that stuff is new to her. She's been forced to do videos she didn't enjoy doing for the majority of her time on the internet. And I feel like shaving off her eyebrows and badly drawing them on like that is a Britney Spears 2007 level meltdown for her.

It's just too odd to me to just count it as fan-service.

No. 743893

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I'm sorry but that looks absolutely disgusting!! Wtf did she make? Also looks like she just through a bunch of plain tofu in there, doesn't looked seasond at all

No. 743896

>>743893
OMFG that looks like dirty dish water, also I agree about the tofu part, guess they are eating boiled plain tofu in dish water this evening yum

No. 743898

>>742451
I saw that too, I think she is just a very unhygienic person and she really doesn't know how to use makeup properly , colour correcting is very basic knowledge and she clearly doesn't know how to do that

No. 744067

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>>743893
she posted a better looking picture afterwards.
Why is mana cooking in the middle of the week? He must be working fulltime, while venus has nothing to do all day. I hope that's not a regular thing, like there's a limit even to depression.

No. 744077

What sort of content would you advise Venus to do?

I think going for a 'cute housewife' thing might work. She can keep a kind of cute aesthetic but more mature, her cooking videos aren't bad. She can focus on Japanese home cooking, crafting items for her pets and to make decorating goods (her craft videos are OK too). I didn't like them but her Japan tour videos where she showed off different places/businesses in Japan seemed to have people interested in them.

Hair and Makeup has her competing against so many other beautubers and its hard to make the dolly look carry on as you get older. I think a beauty oriented channel could be interesting if she talked more about Japanese cosmetics and beauty products but she doesn't.

No. 744227

>>744077
honestly.. she was always bad at crafting, cooking, makeup, or anything requiring motoric skills. but she seems to really ejoy doing it, so why not going for a kids channel?
she wouldn't get any cristicism for her crafts there, could completely let out her childish side without it being weird, talk about candy, toys or whatever as much as she wanted.
you could put half her videos there rn and they would turn from creepy-cringy to cute in an instant.

her main channel she could use for everything else. if she wants to do low-effort videos, why not do some outfit or haul ones (we know she's a hoarder anyway, and people love that shit), or vlogs.. or maybe just ask her fans, like she did 1000x, but actually deliver this time?

No. 744355

Did anyone see her latest video LOL

She is so desperate to prove ppl wrong and cares highly about insignificant things like ppl thinking she cakes on too much face makeup. She immediately opens it with saying she takes good care of her skin and doesnt use too much face makeup LOL. And the look she gives when she says it. I got margo vibes lol.

These types of ppl shouldnt be youtubers. If you're scouring your gossip sites and then trying to counteract everything said, thats not good and youre just fake. Shes literally another Marzia. And i guess shes doing makeup now cuz its easy. She could be marzias twin. Lazy, greedy, subpar work.

Venus also took down a bunch of her videos. Guess she finally milked enough money out of her surgery vids (which were there to "help ppl cuz venus-chan cares oh so much about that") and wants to attempt a more grown up and professional approach from here out. Im guessing shes gonna try to mimic Phan for them juicy youtube subs.

No. 744362

>>744227
You do realize that this would just cater 100% to the ddlg/pedo part of her fandom and that those will become her main audience?

>>744077
None tbh.
She has some serious issues. She needs to take some time off and do all the puberty, early 20’s stuff that normal people go through but Margarine didn’t let her experience.
She needs to find out who she is, what her skills are and what she could work as besides making videos. Once she has figured her life out, she’ll realize whether she really still wants to do videos and what she wants her content to be.

Right now she’s dependent on this whole Venus online identity because this is very likely her only source of income. She needs to grow up, take control and choose to find herself a alternate career path before she’s forced to. And I don’t even mean ‘growing up’ in a ‘get a grip’-kinda way. She never had a chance to learn becoming an adult. But she has to now.

No. 744390

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>>744067
Looks like mana is cooking yet again, he works a lot and it's unfair for Venus to make him cook after a hard day at work considering she does absolutely nothing, it should be 50/50 in a relationship and since she doesn't work she should do everything at home

No. 744394

>>744355
that video was hilarious, i love when she says she doesn't cake makeup on PHAHAHAH she wears soooooo much makeup, what is she talking about?????

No. 744410

>>744355

Well she DID followed up with saying she wears more concealer tho. Tho she puts it all the way on the sides of her eyes where her skin looks normal(no bags) so its pointless and not helping there.

I Dont get why she feels the need to defend herself over it tho. Like the video itsself or the way she says 'passionate' in such a bitchy way at the start as an f you to anyone who doesnt like her makeup application skills is so ugh. And that angry look in her eye when she mentions too much face mkup. So passive aggressive yikes! Also foam face washes are terrible as they tend to overstrip the skin just saying

No. 744445

>>744362
>>744227
I think a kid's channel is a good idea, how long as her pedo fans gonna keept watching?

But you do have a point about finding alternate money sources. What kind of jobs can foreigners do in Japan? She's married so she is eligible to work and her Japanese isn't that bad. Maybe their are jobs like nail tech where the education doesn't take long?

No. 744460

>>744394
i expect she doesn't wear her 'makeup totorial' looks around town (or ever, they're just last-ditch ideas for videos).

>>744390
>it's unfair for Venus to make him cook after a hard day at work considering she does absolutely nothing
this is pretty cringe. this is the pulltard "everyone around the cow is being mistreated by them and is a poor thing uwu. i protec them" instinct. you don't know what the deal is lol, maybe he likes cooking. Another point is, venus has said before she's financially independent so, maybe she pays her share - i dunno how that works with her youtube videos so low though. i dunno how any of these people make money. 30k views is like $50 maybe.. for a whole day's work. and only once a month uploaded on average.. fuckin how

No. 744463

"after getting a lot of requests from my viewers on youtube" looool.

More like: "after reading my gossip sites and taking the idea straight from PULL…"

No. 744464

>>744460

venus said she doesnt SHARE her finances with manaki. her reasoning was she "doesnt want to burden him" which, imo was complete bullshit. it's probably more of a "i make more and don't wanna share" plus sharing with margo didnt exactly work out. she makes the most money on new videos since they get the most views but even if she didnt upload for months, she still gets a monthly check for all her old videos and views they get. it's less but they still get views.

No. 744478

people on her channel asking how venus' skin is so smooth and glowing but just like margo it seems she's using apps like beauty box to airbrush her skin. each of venus' latest makeup videos seem to be using facial blurring apps, her latest the most subtle

No. 744646

>>744362
>>744445
who cares about pedos though? you'll encounter people oversharing their disgusting fetishes everywhere, there's no escape nowadays.

No. 744774

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is it just me is she going down the same root as dakota via photoshop? she edits her photos to have a smaller nose and bigger eyes and smooth skin and even a smaller mouth

No. 745352

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Looks like she has just given up on cooking and making mana do it, he's being doing it for days now

No. 747063

hey remember when she sang anaconda and said the n word in a fake baby voice? well i found the video to her live scream, might be one of the cringiest things yet

No. 747066

>>747063
for anyone that wants to skip to the n word part it's at 2:00 and not to mention she sings about pussy and dick too lol

No. 747177

>>747063
Holy shit that laugh at the end…

God she’s so fucked up at this point. Seems a bit like she’s been acting like a child so much that she actually un-learned how to be an adult. (although tbh even behaving like a teenager would be progress at this point).

Or she’s psychotic and Mana is an actual pedo that takes advantage of it by influencing her behavior.
I know this is stupid, hence the spoiler. But, you know…

No. 749812

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Good! Also working on a video.

No. 749819

>>749812
oh god, I'm so happy for her!
I hope it's actually true and she can finally enjoy her life

No. 752139

New video. The editing is… nostalgic

No. 752298

>>744774

yes she is. in candid photos you can see her eyes are actually deep-set, semi-hooded and kind of small. with the right camera, editing, makeup and angles they appear waaay large tho. her eyes are small like margarets but she has a bit of a more pronounced tear bag to give the illusion of bigger eyes, as well as aegyo sal makeup, squinting and editing. her nose is big like mags too, slightly less bulbous tip but she edits that too. her lips are thin and long (her moms actually look smaller and more doll like). she edits her jaw often as well and completely smooths the face like margaret. if you've seen her in person, she looks different.


Also another bad makeup vid. Sadly all her "looks" tend to end up looking the same and why does she filter the fuck out of the videos?

she looks like she's going back to the old style of videos she used to make as she got more views then

No. 752464

>>745352
There’s absolutely nothing wrong with her husband cooking. Why shouldn’t Venus be proud to show it? It was also only a few meals she has shared. You are needlessly nitpicking.

>>752139
It’s cute but extremely boring. I can’t tell what direction she wants to take her channel or if she is close to giving it up. You can obviously see the effects of her medication, but I don’t think that it means she is actually sad in recent videos.

I will say that her hair has been looking very healthy recently so I assume her overall health has been better.

No. 752645

>>752464
Her hair isn’t necessarily healthier she’s just finally washing it.

No. 752647

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>>752139

I don’t even know if those are better or even worse than her own nails.
Couldn’t she at least have chosen some that cost more than ~5$ and more importantly ones that fit?

No. 752688

Yeah makeup application is not her strength. I hope she doesnt continue in this direction. But makeup vids are easy to make and edit. They require less effort than say, a vlog with lots of footage to go through and actually leaving the house. Would be nice if she did more vlogs about japan, visting shops, touristy stuff, talking about japanese culture ect.

I don't think she's passionate about yt, just seems to want easy content and as much fame as possible with as little work required.

No. 752689

>>752647

Lol she obviously lurks here and put those on since people commented on her nails.

No. 752724

>>752647
I think they look really nice for her first attempt. she probably wasn't sure about them, and wanted to try out cheap ones first.

She really should stop lurking here though (if she does).
lolcow isn't representative of most peoples opinions about her. her subscribers seem to really love her and her videos.
I hope she realizes that. if she lurks here.

No. 752771

>>752139
isn't is suspicious that when we talked about her gross unwashed nails and how deformed they looked in her last video and suddenly she started wearing false nails? also just to make a quick point that SHE'S MISSING SOME OF THE FALSE NAILS! does she just not care how people see her anymore??? having missing nails on a video about how to look angelic isn't the best when it just makes you look like a slob >>742451

No. 752772

File: 1545522430046.png (335.16 KB, 842x430, nails.png)

cheap false nails that have fallen of are so angelic and kawaii!

No. 752922

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fuckin.. all i can feel in the latest video is "i'm in filter hell". and kind of makeup hell too. Going to the mall today and seeing so many unladen fresh faces that don't look like someone with a stocking over their head was so revitalising after too much internet beauty world and starting to sink and drown under these layers of smart blur mugg and foundation fugg.
She looks like a chalk drawing in pic related
She looks like an AI-upscaled texture

No. 752953

>>752139
I think its a big improvement from a lot of her more recent content and her older makeup videos. I doubt her makeup looks polished and I would not wear her looks but I find her makeup videos oddly fascinating, its like the 'outside art' of the beauty youtube world. She makes odd color choices, chooses odd placements, and uses brands no one has ever heard of and ultimately makes looks that are distinct from the cosmetic zeitgeist. Maybe other people feel similarly and that is why her makeup videos were well liked. I think she was good at hair tutorials too so that might be another good direction. Completely agreed about the filters though. Too aggressive.

>>749812
nice to hear good news for her, guess the milk will dry up.

No. 752975

>>752724
No, they don’t. Even for a first time try they look terrible.
And there‘s nothing wrong with trying out cheap ones first, but for god‘s sake if they turn out this bad just remove them entirely before filming.

Also as >>752772 pointed out, there is one missing as well.

They don’t fit, there are some missing, not to mention the bad cuticles. It looks like she didn’t put any effort in them at all. Unkempt and unhygienic, just like her natural nails. So there’s really no point in wearing fake ones.

There’s btw nothing wrong with being not able to 100% take care of yourself due to depression etc. But she’s doing make up/beauty tutorials. And earning money with it. There should be at least a hint of professionalism or effort if she expects this to pay her bills. And right now there’s not.

Also: she can do better. We’ve seen better of her. There’s literally no excuse for this low effort bullshit.

No. 753226

Hey, at least she’s washing her hair. Baby steps..

No. 753541

>>752922
dude can you imagine what her eyebrows would look like without that filter?
maybe she's trying to protect us from that horror

No. 754277

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>>753541
have you seen her eyebrows and makeup without filter??? she needs the filter so it looks better but if you compare her makeup with an actual beauty youtuber it's very emabrassing that she tries to pretend to be good at makeup and make tutorials that no one in there right mind would use (well unless you want to look like you're bad a makeup i guess)

No. 754281

>>753541
>>754277
What filter? Everything's just blurred to hell because of the video compression.

No. 758007

New video with Mana.

No. 758396

>>758007
soo they've got another hamster (around 13:00).. why though?
didn't she have like 10 already, and people were giving her shit for keeping them in tiny cages?
maybe most of them died by now, so she has more space

No. 758675

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>>758007
omg why are her under eyes so bruised????? did she get plastic surgery? you could go a week without sleeping and still wouldnt get that dark

No. 758782

>>758675
this is from the video being colordiddled in aftereffects or whatever. you can see a bit later when the mask is down and her eyes aren't really like that

No. 758815

Pretty dull video, though i do wish mana was the one with 1 mil subs as he's the more tolerable of the two.

also that clickbait is gross. i remember ppl on pull defending venus when her mom clickbaited with sexually suggestive stuff (their kawaii venus-chan would never!) yet they go on to post… that (among other sexual clickbait). i can feel the desperation for views from them.

and damn you can really tell up close (hand shot of venus) how bad (and i dont mean flawed as in acne, redness etc her skin is nice in that regard) but it just looks dull along with nails and teeth. either she's still restricting/dealing with her ED not getting enough nutrition or that surgery really messed up her nutrient re-absorption for life or perhaps she even went on to get the surgery again like she wanted to (kept posting about being hungry, wanting the surgery in the hospital as if she was seeking validation for it or something). I'm not sure I buy the whole being over her eating disorder/havent stepped on a scale thing. she looks a lot thinner again as well. I hope that isnt the case though.

No. 758817

>>758396

perhaps one of their hamsters bred again? i do feel sad for that many hamsters in such a tiny space and i feel like venus only got a hamster in the first place because a)she wanted to make herself look better to the public after what her mom said about her treatment of animals (probs the main reason as she is obsessed with maintaining a good image and its pretty much the only thing she puts A LOT of effort into (similarly to marzia)and b)because it's cute and kawaii and perfect for her channel etc etc.

No. 758819

>>758675

to me it looks like she's intentionally squinting her eyes (it's a technique to make a more pronounced "aegyo sal"). could just be the angle as well

No. 759714

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i don't understand her, she's always telling people to love themselves and promoting body positivity yet posts highly edited pics of herself. if she wants poeple to truly beleive what she says then she needs to take her own advice and just accept what she actually looks like instead of spending 10 hours editing her face

No. 759804

>>759714
Left is another overcompressed video, not photoshop. Right, I don't know. Could be motion blur, could be bad photoshop.

No. 759818

>>759804
this is the second time you misunderstand that someone is posting a real vs edited. you keep saying the 'real' one is less edited. that's the fucking point

No. 759908

>>759714

even in the left pic she's still trying to look different (mainly the eyes). she's literally bulged out her eyes while simultaneously squinting the bottom a bit to get that asian aegyo sal. i think she is desperate to have "big amimu eyes", which in candid shots, she just doesn't have. they're hooded like mags (who also does the creepy wide eyed look to try and give the illusion of a larger eye on camera). her whole insta is grossly over edited. she smooths as much as mags which is sad considering she's younger so why smooth so much. not to mention that eye edit. they look like alien eyes. but honestly, being fake and over edited is what got her popular in the first place. she no longer cares about "being real" with her audience, given it did't gain her more views/popularity like she had hoped. (only a bit during the hospital stuff)

No. 759910

lmao someone even commented on her insta "natural beauty". how blind can people be. then they feel bad that they can't "look as good". how sad.

No. 759994

strange she never said a word about her other channel. I'm laughing my ass off rn

>>759714
maybe because she doesn't look as fresh faced anymore? you can't really tell from the left picture, but sometimes (in photos taken by other people) you really can tell she looks unhealthy and more like 25~. no one would ever think she's under 20 irl

No. 760021

>>759994
omg she DOES NOT have the voice to be a voice actor, she doesn't have a pleasant voice at all and to think she actually thinks people won't recognize her voice and to start up a new youtube channel is ridiculous, no one wants to listen to a whiny annoying voice

No. 760022

>>759994
and she says she's 16 in the video…. i have no idea why she's lying about her age, just more proof she can't cope with the fact that she isn't a child anymore

No. 760211

>>760022
I'm really confused now, isn't she saying that the character is 16?she goes on about being a second year at Lumiere and such.
Did you and me watch the same video, anon?

No. 760214

>>760211
I think anon was referring to the fact that she truly wants to still be a teenage girl, also in her other videos from this channel she did a Q&A in which someone asked what she looked like irl and she said in her response that she looks 16 years old and repeatedly kept talking about how she's 16 years old, Idk about you but I find it disturbing that a fully grown married woman is online pretending to be 16, roleplaying or not it's weird

No. 760354

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>someone asked what she looked like irl and she said in her response that she looks 16 years old

pictured: venus, looking not a day over 16

No. 760359

>>759994

She doesn’t sound one bit british. Jesus fuck!

No. 760489

>>760354
she looks like one of those women desperate to hold onto her youth, my guess is when shes 30 she will still be pretending to be young

No. 760523

>>760489
yeah. she's only 20 and already looks washed out and kinda desperate in her kawaii clothes and pigtails.
aren't round and meaty faces supposed to look youthful for longer? her skin shouldn't have lost any volume and elasticity at her age. if it's her diet then she has to change it asap, it's better to be chubby than look this worn out.

No. 761477

>>760523
she's actually 21 and going to be 22 in feb, she looks a lot older than her actual age, does she plan on trying to be a young teen girl forver? or is she going to try and to something with her life

No. 761638

>>759994
i have just counted that she says she's 16 37 times in all her videos… she's obsessed with pretending to be young and letting people know how young she is.

No. 762027

>>761638
are you saying this aware that she's v.a.ing an anime character, but you think her personal psychology is showing through- or do you not understand the concept of these type of videos

No. 762141

>>762027
I'm fully aware it's a character but it's more of her psychology, we all know she wants to be young and she can pretend with this character, plus like anon said, she said in one of her videos she looks 16 in real life which is just simply not true and shows her delusion

No. 762289

>>759818
You mean like when I commented on these two posts?

>>753541
>>754277

Neither >>753541 nor the left part of >>754277 is filtered. They're both mangled by video compression. That was all I said.

I can believe that the right picture of >>759714 is edited and wrote as much. Using the left one as part of a comparison on photoshopping is retarded because it's an overcompressed mess.

No. 762290

>>760022
>>760359
You can blame the retarded company that hired her for their British character who has a setting of being 16. "Virtual youtubers" are not supposed to leak any info about the person behind and only talk as the character they are playing.

No. 762455

>>762141
>she said in one of her videos she looks 16 in real life
this is the part that i think you don't understand. 'in real life' doesn't mean in real life. the ai's voice actresses aren't giving away their actual irl details - this is still part of the character

>>762289 please go back to 4ch/g/ or whatever with this a/v autism

No. 767558

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Venus was live and she came out, the whole live was so wholesome and just nice to see her so relaxed and happy with a friend

No. 767560

>>767558
Came out as? Please give us details anon.

No. 767574

>>767560

Tell us lmao

No. 767638

She came out as bisexual on the live stream. Someone asked "do you support LGBTQ? and she responded "Yes, actually I'm bisexual myself"

No. 767654

>>767638

I’m sure she said she was ages ago somewhere else?

Half the world is bi these days and she’ll never part with manaki

A Japanese man who will give her a hafu weeb child tho so it doesn’t even matter

No. 767848

>>767558
yeah as bi. I know it was joked about and speculated but I didn't think she'd outright said it. she also said shes sick of makeup that's why she's not making videos and she's taking some time to find what she loves. can't remember much else interesting.. she ignored questions about mana and margrot

No. 768951

Weird how she didnt answered to questions regarding Manaki and even removed his insta link from her bio. Now that she came out as bi maybe she's trying to go for that ~im so cute because i love girls teehee~ loli shojo ai heroine persona but then again since she's a huge weeb she'll never ditch that sweet visa.

No. 768998

It looks like her and manaki broke up, she removed him from her bio plus they deleted all of their pictures together on each on their accounts.

No. 769051

>>768998
they did a video together like 2 weeks ago.
to my knowledge they never posted pictures of each other since 2016, and while mana deleted pretty much everything since then, you can still see pictures of him if you scroll far back on venus instagram.
people thinking they broke up because she removed him in her bio.. is this facebook

No. 769062

>>769051
if your husband came out as gay would you be like.. ah cool let's stay married

No. 769088

>>769062
she's bi tho. the only difference to someone hetero is the bigger pool of people she finds potentially attractive, so this shouldn't be an issue in a happy marriage.

i'm actually sceptical whether she is actually bi or just believes it. like, how does she know?? she never had a relationship before mana.
i think she just finds girls to be aesthetically pleasing, and is kinda drawn to them because she never had real friends when she was with margs, and now maybe believes it's sexual attraction?

No. 769127

>>769088
>she's bi though so blah blah
fuck off, how did she find she gets horny off women unless she's going around looking at pics or whatever of women and getting off on it. Something which if your partner does, is disloyalty unless you're tumblr scum "we watch porn together" freak (which means you're very ugly and need to cling to each other)
I agree though I don't think she's actually bi lol everyone has this fuckin phase.
Everything's a phase same as how every single video including the last one is "i'm not like that now, i'm like this now!" see how it lasts one month until she's looking back at this video and going oh ugh

No. 769199

New video, really good imo.

No. 769305

>>769199
It was definitely a lot better than I anticipated. Hopefully Venus’ self awareness can eventually help her get a better foothold in her recovery.
Maaaaaaan if it doesn’t shed a bit more insight into how much Margo messed her up though.

No. 769458

>>769199

God she's still thinks shes such a "special little eccentric snowflake". Cannot stand her.

"Not very many ppl can say they grew up on the internet…"

Is her head so far up her special ass? Everyone I know (especially the current teenage generation) is "growing up" on the internet. She is such an egocentric brat.

" I'm a weird special little creature" "when ppl laugh at me I can laugh with them".

No you dont, venus. You get pissed off but for the sake of your obsession with "seeming good" like marzia or mikan mandarin or maergery tyrell, you lie. Just like she said she doesnt read her gossip threads. Yeahhh right (rolls eyes)

No. 769470

>>769458
you just want to hate on her dont you

No. 769500

That video was mostly for damage control on her more controversial vids throughout her youtube history. She's trying really hard to be liked by a random internet audience. I don't know why she cares so much. Just do what you want and STOP trying to appease your audience with vids like these for gods sake.

She also comes across as very vain/narcissitic in this one. Hope to see her drop the facade, vanity and desperate need to please one day. I'd like her if she was less self-absorbed and image conscious.

No. 769560

>>769088

I dont think she is bi either. There's a difference between finding women cute or sexy or getting turned on here/there by their body, femininity, cuteness etc and actually, in reality desiring to have sex with them or be romantically involved with them. I dont think venus would want either of those. An example: some women get off on porn/turned on focusing on the female actress rather than man but they dont actually desire sex with them or a relationship. That in turn doesnt make them bi. Maybe its the same for v. Or maybe its as someone else said… For that "i love girls teehee loli shojo ai heroine persona". Who knows.

No. 769571

>>760354

She looks 25-27ish in candids to me, her mom looked older at 22 too. She just doesn't have that "kiddy" look to her face anymore. Her dress style (if other people have ACTUALLY said she looks 16) might be what fools them. I'm honestly surprised she thinks she looks 16. Maybe she is referring to her pics which are all facially smoothed/edited, but even then she doesn't look like a teen to me. Magaret seems to have this same age delusion as well.

No. 769707

>>769571
read the post you're replying to again more carefully and read the replies

No. 769721

>>769500
I mean yeah this is the 7th or 8th video she's done that's the same awakening "i've changed" "no more lying" "dropping the persona". But - i just wrote out a whole thing about how for many people there actually is no 'self' under personas because people have always had some form of audience, and it's too existential for most people to handle that, so they just fake it to themselves, and how therefore she'll keep revealing the next layer down but it's performances all the way down because she doesn't know she doesn't HAVE a self…… and then i watched the last part of the new vid again and … Actually SHE said what i was trying to say. So, maybe she knows exactly what I thought she didn't know. So for me it's an open question whether the new therapist's advice has actually allowed her to grow a self, and or whether growing a self is just not that easy and this is just another layer of performance to appeal to/ appease an audience who can meet her on this higher level.

No. 769741

So she's going for pity…again.

Guess it's time for pity party number 2. She wants the same attention she got during her hospital phase, where everyone was glorifying her. It's trendy now for youtubers to use their mental health issues like depression for pity and views. Disgusting.

No. 769742

>>769721

She does have "a self", she just most likely is over thinking/analyzing. I was the same way for quite a while. Not having a fav food doesn't mean she doesn't have a self. People pleasing doesnt mean she doesnt have a self. All these things actually make up "her self".

No. 769751

>>769742
>Not having a fav food doesn't mean she doesn't have a self
that's right, but she only said that because she was grasping for a way to illustrate something very abstract and hard to put into words - which is also why you don't understand what I meant, so i'll give up trying to get it across lol. it's like if you've spend a few days in silence with nobody and no stimulus around you, you'll know what i mean

>>769741
>pity
this is just ridiculous. the video was entirely positive after the first 30 seconds.

No. 769856

>>767558
Same ol Peenus being an attention whore, what a surprise. Time to join the Kawiwi sooo gay and soo depressed Confetti Club.

Inb4 spergelic's rant "u jelly of our queen Weebus living the purfect nihon dreamu"

No. 769911

>>769856
so.. how is she supposed to behave to not be considered an attention whore?
(she obviously can't leave youtube as it's her job)

No. 771096

>>769911
Stop making videos and get another, actual job.

You’re pretending like she has to do videos not to die or go bankrupt within a few days when this is not the case.

Also nobody is criticizing her for doing YouTube in general, stop defending her with straw man arguments. She just needs to stop to exploit her personal issues for clicks. She’s mentally unstable, wow. So is basically everyone else in their twenties. Except that everyone else doesn’t try to make money out of it because there’s nothing quirky, cute or romantic about it. She‘s sick. There’s treatment for it. She‘s not 6 anymore where you can sit down crying because you got a scratch on your knee and everyone tries to console you. That‘s not how the world works and by pretending her way of dealing with her issues - getting her online following to pity her - is somehow okay doesn’t help anyone.
She has people that are there for here irl and off camera. Those are people that are supposed to be her safety net. Not a bunch of faceless numbers on the internet.

She has issues but by continuing the same pattern as the past years she won’t change shit about it.

No. 771192

>>771096
THIS. I love you anon.

Also is she even pursuing an education? Studying japanese is good since she wants to stay there longterm but that won't be enough to provide her a job. She said in one of her videos about studying languages that studies come before an interest in languages but she's been doing the exact opposite since years… She can't even follow her own advice. Since she lives with Manaki it's not like her situation in Japan is unstable. If he doesn't support her financially she could keep making videos while studying, sure that's a lot but that's how it's like to be a responsible adult. She doesnt seem to realize she won't be a kawaii anime child forever and that Japan isnt just a giant themepark.

No. 771218

>>771192
She did a live stream on instagram a couple hours ago and answered some questions, including if she plans on continuing her education. Answer: no that’s not going to happen because she’s “a middle school dropout” so she’s concentrating on reading a lot and her “business” (Youtube? She barely makes videos anymore so idk what “business” she’s talking about.

Also she could get her HS diploma equivalent online if she wanted to so that excuse doesn’t fly.

No. 771222

Other answers to questions:

She’s still together with Mana (“of course!”), they have separate rooms because they’re both introverts and need ‘alone time’ (but she’s home alone all day every day when Mana is at work so whatever.) They still sleep in the same bed.

She’s “bisexual leaning towards lesbian” and she’s kissed a girl before.

She doesn’t hate her mom but feels sad about her. She’ll make a video about that soon.

She admits she’s a NEET.

No. 771272

>>771222
>She doesn’t hate her mom but feels sad about her. She’ll make a video about that soon.

Jesus. Fucking. Christ. She needs to fucking stop milking that cow.
That’s exactly what I meant by ‚exploiting her personal issues’. There’s literally no point for her to make yet another video about her mother except for clicks.

If she actually cares about her mental health and wants to become better, she needs to take ten steps back and keep her personal life to herself. Because once she puts this stuff out there, she‘ll get thousands of opinions on herself and her life. And as someone who‘s struggling with knowing who she actually is out of her internet persona, that’s the last thing she needs.
But as long as she‘s literally doing the complete opposite of anything that would be beneficial to her actual life, not just her bank account, I‘m having a damn hard time believing she even wants to become better.

No. 771279

>>771222

If she's "leaning towards lesbian" and keeping separate rooms with Manaki, I don't see why they are still together except for the visa. Which is pretty disgusting from Venus imo especially if he genuinely loves her. Does Mana even know this whole bisexual story?

No. 771435

>>771272
She wasn’t “milking that cow.” She answered a question one of the viewers asked on her instagram live (“do you hate your mom?”) She answered very briefly (“no but I do feel sad about it.”)

No. 771530

>>771435
>She'll make a video about that soon
How it's not milking the situation for YouTube bucks?
You Venus stans pulltards are ridiculous.

No. 771559

>>771530
Thank you, that’s what I meant.
Obviously there’s nothing wrong with briefly answering questions.

No. 771793

>>771279
>Does Mana even know this whole bisexual story?

Gurrrrl, have you seen his Instagram comments whenever Venus and her friends make lesbian jokes about each other? He’s totally into it and he probably isn’t so straight himself.

Why are you and others disturbed by “leaning towards lesbian” part? She is just describing her personal sexuality and what she is turned on by. Girls on her Instagram are always trying to show her BTS videos like they’re the hottest things ever and she is just explaining that she can’t get into that stuff because it’s not appealing to her in the same way it is for them. The way she leans in her sexuality doesn’t reflect on her fidelity or ability to love someone. Think about it: If someone strongly states they are 100% heterosexual, does that mean they are always looking at other women while they are with their girlfriend because their heterosexuality is so deeply ingrained? Because you’re insinuating that due to Venus’ sexuality, she can’t be faithful to an individual person, even though Venus has stated that feminine boys like Manaki are the exception for her. Don’t conflate sexuality and romance because they don’t always mesh perfectly.

And for the last time: They sleep together, in the same bed, at night but have separate day rooms where they spend time and play on their computers/game systems, etc. If Manaki is working odd hours and coming home late, is Venus supposed wait for him on their marital bed or keep herself occupied in the living room/kitchen all day? Extra rooms like a father’s office, mother’s sewing room or a kids toy/game room are completely normal, you know.

No. 771877

>>771096
>>771530
venus kept her mouth shut for a long time, while margo was talking shit about her to anyone willing to listen. her fans (the people that matter to her, so not you) have been asking her these questions all the time.
if so many people want to hear about her personal stuff, she gets money from it AND enjoys it, then why shouldn't she make those videos?
it's not like yall wont be the first to click on any shitty clickbait video she puts out. just enjoy the goddamn milk

No. 772613

>>771877
Fuck off to PULL if you can’t handle people criticizing your precious little uwu angel princess

When was the last time Marge actually did though? So why not speak up against the allegations when they come up in the first place?
Right now her clicks are dropping rapidly so she needs something to fix that. Which is drama.
Which also explains why she shouldn’t do it: It‘s not a video she WANTS to do. It’s not a video she‘s doing because it’s something she enjoys. She‘s just serving an audience.

She actually said herself that she kinda doesn’t know what her personality really is. So what she should do is take a huge fucking step back from being who and what her viewers and fans want her to be. Which would be the opposite of ‘oh ppl ask for this so I’ll do it’.

>just enjoy the goddamn milk


What milk though? There won’t be any actual milk. This will just be another 10+ minute video of
>marge was and is mean
>so many lies
>poor me can’t live a normal life

when she actively keeps doing stuff that keeps her from having a normal life.
It’s literally that shocked pikachu meme in action.
>’I’m so depressed and don’t know who I am’
>does literally nothing to change that
> :O

No. 773048

>>772613
>So why not speak up against the allegations when they come up in the first place?

what's the difference? people are gonna insist that she's only doing it for attention anyway.
if anything, doing it now, after years, proves that it's not just about getting maximum attention. plus, she's putting zero effort into youtube, so I doubt she's getting real desperate here.
I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt this time and believe it's actually therapeutic and necessary for her to talk about stuff.

I mean, she'll probably cringe about it later and delete, but please stop pretending you care soo much about her mental health. some other anons here do this too.
if you actually did, you would leave encouraging comments on her instagram, not some posts on lolcow talking about what an idiot she is. it's like you have to justify yourself because you know you're just being unnecessary salty.

also "milk" may be a strong word, but I'm kinda hopeful for new margo-pearls like "all mexicans are short and fat because they eat so much corn"

No. 773062

>>773048
venus stan is mad

No. 773088

>>773048
Kek I don’t care about her mental health at all and neither do I pretend to.
She just keeps saying how well she is and how she’s trying her best to become better and so on. I’m simply saying that she isn’t and what would be best for her.

But anyways, what >>773062 said.
Keep on defending her. I’m out. If I wanted to read how great she is and that she can’t do any wrong over and over again I’d go to the Margarine thread or PULL.

No. 773764

>>773088

Oh man. That video's going to be quite the pity party. I can't believe she's planning on making another marg video (though kinda assumed the second part of her vid would be that, given where she stopped). Is she planning on releasing it near marge's birthday too, like she did last year (where she talked about the pregnant comment) to low-key get marge hated on. I get that marge is an asshole and stuff, but it's ALWAYS the same crap with venus. It's always about pity and attention. Remember the calling my dad video? That was just posted for clicks using family drama for views/money and a clear jab at margaret. She was getting so much "aww poor venus-chan" comments it was sickening. Like if you need to do it for therapeutic reasons (like some here tend to defend her with), then do it OFF camera, with your husband, friends and THERAPIST.

And then there were the plethora of hospital vlogs. I remember her stating she doesn't share her money with manaki to not "burden" him. Completely voluntary information just to glorify herself and she most likely doesn't share (if still applicable) since she earns more and is fairly greedy. And then there was the first video on marge. I get she had to explain that they're not business partners anymore but one of the points she criticized marge for was"trashing manaki" as if she herself never did (quite a hypocrite) and thus the pity party began.

She's very egocentric. And loves a pity party. This is clear. Can she not just make vlogs hanging out with friends, teaching us about japan, doing random things that don't involve SELLING her pity stories to an internet audience to glorify herself?

No. 773765

>>771218

yes, its not really an excuse. I kind of get the feeling she doesn't plan on getting an education because 1) there's nothing she cares/is passionate to study (which is fine) 2)is too lazy 3) thinks she's "better" than that ie: a 1 million subbed youtuber now having to "work" like the regular plebs. She's too "special and eccentric" for that.

No. 773855

>>773765
I feel the same way. This really isn't smart of her… Who goes to live to a completely foreign country without a hs diploma. She'll probably regret it later but now she only cares about the rich weeb dream life.

No. 773934

Moved to >>>/w/30581.



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