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No. 2574678
This thread is to discuss your grievances with gender ideology.
>What is gender ideology? Foundational to transgenderism, gender ideology is the belief that one’s “internal gender” can contradict one’s biological sex.
Gender ideology operates much like a religious cult. There is no scientific evidence that supports the notion that we have an “internal gender,” and yet doctors now medicalize and sterilize children with “transgender identities” who have been groomed by the cult. Anyone who does not reaffirm these delusions is labelled as a “transphobe” in order to discredit any dissenting voices of the cult.
Relevant threads:
MtF/Trans-Identified Male General
>>>/snow/2125031FtM / fakeboi / TIF general
>>>/snow/2121594Ovarit Archives
https://lolcow.farm/2X/res/38865.html#38865Resources:
Peak trans stories from banned Gender Critical subreddit:
https://www.saidit.net/s/GenderCritical/comments/54yt/gcs_peak_trans_archived/ Peak trans stories from Ovarit:
https://pixeldrain.com/l/JTwRJCYR “Listen to trans people” series:
https://x.com/marycatedelvey/status/1897370783816790064 “You told me you were different” TIM on TIF violence anthology:
https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=1E3552778745CA46FE01054D2886BB3DPrevious threads:
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I can't stop thinking about how someone the other farms brought up how testosterone doesn't just affect children of TIFs but grandchildren. Especially since eggs are formed in utero for any female children. Testosterone is a carcinogen and a teratogen. I don't understand how we tolerate TIFs poisoning children. Or using T-gel which gets everywhere and exposes other unwilling people or animals to poison. Even small amounts of the gel contain high does of T to contaminate food or anything they touch.
No. 2574912
>>2574471 Nayrt, but personally I wouldn't want to "show off" around a tim. If he were to become angry enough to write a reddit post about it, then he'd probably fantasize about hateraping you to "conquer" the woman who made him feel inferior.
>>2573464I'd suggest wearing swim-trunks and some kind of swim-shirt/a one-piece under it if you have to be around him. At the core of it, he's a man and he probably likes ogling women even if it also makes him angry because he can't have/be you.
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>Hmm. Today I will look up fanart of my IDV mains sucking face.
>Find picrel
We already know what kind of mental illness causes people to become trans, but what in the goddamn is causing kids to see fictional characters like "autistic serial killer guy" and see "OMG POLYROMANTIC TRANSFEMININE ACHILLEAN SOFTBOY WHO'S QUEER PLATONIC WITH MY FICTIONKIN IDENTITY :3333"? Because we need to find the source and kill it fast.
No. 2574969
>>2574825I don't have proof of anything, but since magatards are an American voter group, and uk feminists are on another continent, I'd think that would be a good enough reason to assume it's not happening. What are UK feminists going to do about a country with 10x the population across an ocean?
>>2574763This is especially disturbing when I think about the fact I and several of my (now normal, healthy, and in most cases, straight) friends used to all talk about this and agree we wish we were born boys after puberty hit. None of us trooned out and I was probably the only one who was even notably GNC. I'd like to think if I was younger and 13 when all this was happening I still wouldn't troon out because I have never really followed youth fads like my peers did but I'm pretty sure at least one of my friends and many similar girls would have. Isn't it extremely common for girls to wish they were boys once puberty hits and they realize all the downsides to growing up female?
No. 2574988
>>2574977Normally I just stick to ignoring the global chat and looking for fanart on Pixiv, but Tumblr still has a lot of good fanartists who prefer the archival system the site offers. But there are either A) A bunch of retards who never got over their 2012 Tumblr phase or B) A bunch of children who heard Tumblr was cool who still post shit like this.
It's hard and nobody understands orz
No. 2575007
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Went on an outing into the city yesterday and the ugly ass “progress” troon flags painted over what used to just be a rainbow still pisses me off. I don’t feel safe using the restrooms out there anymore. But when I went to the game store the girl at the counter was talking to me about hogwarts legacy unprompted and how good it runs and that made me feel slightly better.
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>>2574763>A young girl goes through puberty and is immediately objectified by the patriarchy.>She (reasonably) hates it. She internalizes that hate, so she wishes she could change rather than society changing and learning to humanize women and not treat them like objects for sexual gratification.>Instead of teaching this young girl about feminism, self love and dismantling the patriarchy, troons tell her, "Yes, you were born in the wrong body! If you go on harmful drugs for the rest of your life, then you can 'fix' your deeply flawed (flawed being she is a woman that doesn't like being commodified) body!"Disgusting. I fucking despise these 'people'.
No. 2575343
Trans Academic "Andrea" Long Chu wrote a book which is literally his sissy force-fem fetish
>Femaleness is a universal existential category defined by the assumption of a desire which is not one’s own. It’s not just that other people are forcing you to do things; it’s that your desire comes from without you, it does not originate within you, but it is assumed as your own. That being the case, the theory of gender that I put forward in the book is that gender is the opposite of a sexuality: your sexual identity is the expression of “your own sexuality”; your gender identity is the expression of someone else’s sexuality. It has to do with what is assumed in the production of desire in the first place. So, being a “woman” – and this is the most traditional second-wave [Catharine] MacKinnon line – is defined as being what a man wants. Now I find that very appealing; it can then be diversified significantly. We don’t have to be talking about women, we can be talking about men, or more specific kinds of gender, like a certain type of trans-femininity. I also describe gender in the book as a coping mechanism, as how you cope with femaleness. Because femaleness in its most pure, unmediated form, is self-abolishing – that is abolishing of the self, not abolishing of femaleness. It’s destructive, self-abnegating. So gender is also an attempt at degrees of defeminisation, “un-femalisation” – so as to make being female survivable. Because otherwise you would just be completely flattened out by the force of the desire of the other. In that sense those quote-unquote men and quote-unquote women, are attempts to reconcile with and to repress femaleness.>On a granular level, it’s a riposte to Freud, actually. In Three Essays on the Theory of Sexuality, he’s thinking about the libido. Running through those essays, there’s a lot about the “active” and “passive” and how he is uncomfortable with those terms. He sounds like a gender-studies student. Eventually he says, “Well, I guess you could call the libido masculine, but only if you understood masculine as not really to do with men, but to do with the active position.” He’s already aware that there’s something weird about using a gendered term for this thing that he wants to define psychodynamically – in terms of interpersonal relation. The move of my book was to say, no actually that was wrong, or it was half-right. Freud was right that the libido has only one sex, he was just wrong about which sex it was. Which is to say that – to use another Freudian term – I too would assert the universality of the castration complex, but I have the opposite interpretation of it. Which is that it’s not that the little boy is afraid that he is going to be castrated, but he is afraid that he is going to like it.>It’s long been accepted that there is a difference between the phallus and the penis. The phallus is an ideal category to which the penis strives. The penis itself, in not being a phallus, is a sign of castration. The fact that you have a penis and not a phallus is already a first step towards castration. Even if your penis hasn’t been chopped off yet. I am taking advantage of that discrepancy, as any Lacanian would, but pushing it in the opposite direction.>Inevitable, the question is not whether or not you will have it, the question is, what it will mean that you don’t have it. The trick of patriarchy – and this is very much a Solanasian idea – is to convince everyone that not having the phallus is a bad thing, when in fact it is the thing that everyone desires the most: the relief of no longer having to hold yourself to phallic idealisation>One would be a different relation to TERFs. I’m willing to get cosy with them, in a way that I like to imagine is uncomfortable to them, but it is also uncomfortable for other trans people. I am willing to say – what actually leads Sheila Jeffreys or Janice Raymond to say the things they say? Rather than ignoring that stuff because I find it offensive or transphobic, which I do, I try and engage with that tradition, though it’s sad to call it a tradition. This is because I believe that the best way to develop a strong defence against those ideas is to deflate and dismantle their arguments, and that means getting very close to them. You know, I occasionally get called a TERF on Twitter or see myself referred to as kind of TERF-y. And I understand why people say that. I get the discomfort with my approach. But that feature would certainly be one component. Second is a shift to desire. This is arguably a return to desire – in the sense that in early sexology, those first medical conceptions of “transsexuality” or “transvestitism” under people like Magnus Hirschfeld and the Institute for Sexual Science, transness was understood as a sexual phenomenon. Transsexuality is a sexuality. That was an old sexological idea. And that necessarily fell away in the course of trans people trying to define themselves outside of a medicalised system, and trans people seeking legal protections. For this, it was necessary to cut sexuality out of the equation. In that sense, bringing sexuality back would be a characteristic of a second wave of trans studies. And I acknowledge that there is a sort of dialectical nature to it. Indeed, one could not have started where I started. You need the first wave in order to have a second wave. But the reintroduction of sexuality into transness is really essential. It’s what the ignorant Christian people that I grew up around would have thought – that I was a form of sexual perversion, not gender perversion, specifically sexual perversion. So I take some pleasure in at last agreeing with them. https://magazine.tank.tv/issue-81/talks/andrea-long-chu No. 2575370
>>2575343Moids have 0 theory of mind. If being a woman is “being wanted”, what does that say about men? Are men men because they are wanted by women? No, because women according to his definition, women do not have an internally motivated sense of attraction.
Therefore men are only men if they want women, if they become an usurper of a female’s sexuality, which she has no option but to acquiesce to (because she’s a woman, and this is his definition of woman). Ironically, this is exactly what troons do and what makes them so obviously male. Not only in their sexual targets, but how they view their own sexualities.
It’s such a heterosexual male interpretation of reality projected onto the whole of society. In which females are always “desired”, in which males who want to be desired become women, lesser, objects with no will, and exist only to be acted upon.
A heterosexual couple that mutually desire one another must become female and male simultaneously - what you would logically conclude if you weren’t a mentally stunted moid who was incapable of decoupling femaleness/“femininity” with “object of desire”.
This philosophy makes no sense when you account for hetero women (and homosexual men) having separate targets of desire (males). Or even lesbians, who cannot participate in this dynamic since there is no male perspective involved and the whole system fails to launch.
I can’t believe leftists/liberals just let a bunch of moids essentially blather on about their chimp-like sexualities and accept it as progressive because they use college-educated words to explain it. Actually I can, most men are like this and enough are on the left.
No. 2575377
>>2575343Troons cannot explain women who actively desire moids. 1 fucking fujoshi is enough to throw a wrench into this entire operation.
How does this troon explain a female being lustful of her own volition? How does this troon explain how her object of desire is unmistakably and deliberately male?
This whole fixation on power dynamics and hierarchies is so inextricably male. It’s so ironic that these are the moids who claim to be women. They are the most manly male brained men who ever maled at maletown.
No. 2575694
>>2575343nta but the fact that andrea long chu still somehow gets shilled and allowed to write pieces for major corporations is proof that gender ideology is just a men's rights movement. when's the last time a tif 'academic' reached anywhere near the same level of fame as andrea? how many famous tif writers and public figures can you name? how about any tifs in public office like sarah mcbride? it's all about men at the end of the day.
>>2575665nonnie you should post this in the punk cringe thread too kekkk
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fuck it i need to get this out of my system. thought i should make more trans-inclusive art what do you guys think
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>>2575816Purely anecdotal but my TIM brother is about 6’4 and thinks he passes. I remember reading theories about tall, lanky phenotypes being over represented in autistic populations so that probably has something to do with it as well.
I filled out picrel for my brother I hope some
nonny enjoys it
No. 2575839
>>2575665All troonism is just a very honest portrayal of chimp moid sexuality.
Women are objects to be had, other moids are your competition/enemies. That’s the gist of it. Then you mix it all up with a bunch of flowery language and start falsely applying this framework to everyone else- now it’s “queer theory”.
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>>2575838>bro is a tranny and a furryI’m so sorry nona I hope your parents don’t coddle him.
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>>2575007That flag really does represent the troon movement perfectly, just not in the way they intended.
No. 2576088
I’m in a discord server for a stereotypically feminine interest and there’s this one TIM who keeps trying wayy too hard to relate to the women in it. But like a third of the women are TIFs so every time he posts something along the lines of “oh em gee just girly things amirite fellow gurlz??” all the TIFs come down hard on him saying that “boys like X interest too!” and he slinks off. It’s hilarious.
>>2575956Everyone I know who was actually gnc as a child either never identified as trans or only very briefly dipped their toes in and quickly desisted. At the same time, the TIFs I knew as children all claim they knew they were boys on the inside from age 2, but were in fact very gender conforming girls who wanted to be Disney princesses and only liked cute pink Pokémon. Reading their historical revisionism of their own childhood is wild. “I never played with other girls, I only ever roughhoused with the boys!” Ma’am you had a Disney princess birthday party every year for five years in a row and tried to disinvite me after the first one because my party dress wasn’t sufficiently frilly enough. “I’ve never been girly” my ass.
I think being actually gnc requires a resilience and sense of personal identity that TIFs lack. Instead they just go along with what their friends are doing and do whatever they think will improve their standing in the group and get them positive attention. When they were 6 this meant having the frilliest princess party dress, and now that they’re in their late 20’s and early 30’s with all-gendie friend groups it means being the mascest brodudeking with the most heckin’ pubebeard and the gnarliest mastectomy scars.
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>>2576175nta but they can affect the system for a long time even if they don't literally 'stay in your system' since they change your entire hormonal balance. It can take years to get your periods back after stopping a course of bc, and in some cases they will never go back to normal. If you recognize that TIMs taking birth control hormones permanently change their bodies, not sure why you think it would not potentially cause permanent or long-term changes for women.
>>2576088>I think being actually gnc requires a resilience and sense of personal identity that TIFs lack. I agree and most of the TIFs I knew since childhood were always stereotypically feminine girls too, but more than that, were wallflowers with a pack mentality who did everything their friends did. Not one of the girls I know from my youth who trooned out was any kind of individualist.
No. 2576347
>>2576276Most of the hormones in bc (the progestins specifically) are synthetic and typically derived from androgens. The pill is not 'estrogen only' and yes it does mess with the woman's body and natural cycle. Does it mess with women as much as it probably messes with men? No, but the idea that it wouldn't have long-lasting effects to put synthetic hormones in your body as a woman because they 'flush out' or something is silly because you can see that moids do have long term effects from taking synthetic hormones. Of course women do too.
>>2576314Yeah I've only known one troon who tried to be stealth and it was an HSTS moid. I've never seen a group of people so invested in wearing literal tags on the clothing telling people their identity kek.
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>>2575956>>2576088Facts, I have never met a TIF into guns or hunting or sports. Or computing, modding, speed-running, etc the way TIMs are. All of the TIFs I knew were really into fandom and fanfiction or Steven Universe Hazbin Hotel shit.
>resilience and sense of personal identity that TIFs lackI actually think they are more feminine on average compared to normal women because of this. Beyond hobbies TIFs are very thin-skinned, sensitive to social discourse, focus internally on feelings, etc. Compare how TIMs scream about "girldick" and constant gross fetish shit, barge into female-dominated spaces, and try to manipulate lesbians into sex (without seemingly caring about how the woman feels) vs how TIFs whine about not feeling desired and cry over gay men being rude to them.
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>>2575343>>2575370there is actually a whole subreddit shared by incel and incel transbians who also claim that women can't possibly be attracted to men, these moids spend their entire lives as ugly degenerates and think it's part of the human condition
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>moid wants to date lesbians
>comments are tims hinting at trooning out
And handmaidens will still pressure lesbians to treat them as genuine women
No. 2576753
>>2576567>>2576611Oh, they exist… there were quite a few posted in the mtf threads on /snow/. They're hideous and somehow lower effort than the fag sissification fetish troons who pretend all women dress like whores.
>>2576644It's a man who basically keeps dressing mannish and "masc" but will accessorize with long hair and "femme" things like jewelry or collars (yuck). They want to look like "butch lesbians" in an attempt to draw in "femmes".
>>2576540I support you and your little FAS darling. Bottoms up!
Actually, if you drink enough vodka, would it end up killing the baby or only deform it? I'm really interested in future studies comparing the effects of hrt on fetuses vs the effects of alcohol. The theory that it affects the future child's egg/sperm rather than the child itself is really interesting to me.
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>>2576540I think those anons were saying that it's not good to overly restrict what pregnant mothers are allowed to do, because it becomes a slippery slope. At least that's how I interpreted it. I do think it's a travesty that TIFs taking testosterone are getting pregnant because they're probably fucking up their children's and grandchildren's lives, but I also wouldn't want to introduce laws or more social shaming to control pregnant women's behavior more. That can eventually be used to prosecute women legally for just breathing wrong while pregnant so I think it's better to go to the source and try to get medical transition banned rather than ban pregnant women taking certain hormones or substances or eating certain things. If doctors weren't handing out T like candy to vulnerable women and girls, this wouldn't be an issue in the first place.
>>2576553This is all just cope because lesbians will never date or be attracted to TIMs either. It's just going to be the same 'lame' bi girls the moid was capable of dating before, except worse because bi women are far more likely to date a normal man than a TIM, and lesbian-larping straight women.
>>2576618Kek I once talked a friend (who is a singer) out of trooning out by asking her if she would be fine losing her voice. She was like 'oh wait I never thought of that, that would really bother me.' She would have sounded really stupid too because she had an extremely high-pitched soft cute squeaky voice, which would have sounded hilarious as a frog voice, like a teenage moid who inhaled helium.
>>2576753>The theory that it affects the future child's egg/sperm rather than the child itself is really interesting to me.It would almost certainly do both. Having high testosterone levels while pregnant probably causes developmental issues for the child itself, but is also likely to affect their eggs.
No. 2577051
>>2576753>The theory that it affects the future child's egg/sperm rather than the child itself is really interesting to me.This, or rather the fact that it affects
both the fetus and the fetus’ germline, is true for anything that seriously affects the developing fetus, especially something like smoking. If your grandmother (and especially your maternal grandmother) smoked or inhaled a lot of secondhand smoke during her pregnancy with your parent, that’s now part of your DNA.
>>2576822>That can eventually be used to prosecute women legally for just breathing wrong while pregnant so I think it's better to go to the source and try to get medical transition bannedAgreed. Woman-hating pronatalist nutters are already throwing women in jail for “endangering their baby” even when it turns out the woman’s not even pregnant, and this is not something feminist should encourage. What we can do is advocate for the banning of universally harmful shit like cross-sex hormones and especially pharmacy-aided testosterone-poisoning of women and girls, smoking, microplastics etc. These things fuck up men and their germlines too, so it makes no sense to only police women.
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>>2577051>throwing women in jail for “endangering their baby” even when it turns out the woman’s not even pregnantWait what, OT I know but do you have a link? Not that this would especially surprise me but I never heard of that.
I'm generally libertarian when it comes to what people can decide to do to their bodies (smoking, drinking, risky behavior like extreme sports, choosing not to wear seatbelts in cars etc) but I think there's a strong precedent for stopping things at the source when it comes to prescription drugs/medications being prescribed that don't even treat a real medical issue, same with unnecessary surgeries. There is no reason why doctors who swore the Hippocratic oath and are paid - in many cases, public money or insurance money that other people pay into - to help treat/prevent illnesses should be pressured (or, honestly, even allowed, but especially pressured which is what current medical association "best practices" do) to prescribe people dangerous/controlled medications just for shits and giggles, which is really what prescribing cross-sex hormones is. If people want to go through back channels to procure roids, T, whatever, that's their risk to take, but a woman waltzing into a doctor's office and saying 'I want to look like a man so give me testosterone' and then getting it because she might feel sad if she doesn't get it is horrible medical practice and I hope all these medical associations, WPATH etc. get sued for billions for it soon.
I can't just walk into a doctor's office and ask for codeine (even if I really am experiencing actual severe pain!) and just get it handed to me, because it has a risk of addiction which doctors have deemed generally more risky than crippling pain. If I had severe painful cystic acne and wanted to get Accutane I'd have to do multiple pregnancy tests in a lab first to prove that I'm not pregnant, go on two forms of birth control and sign waivers explaining that I know if I get pregnant the baby will likely have birth defects and a doctor would encourage me to get an abortion if I somehow got pregnant on Accutane. But I can walk into a doctor's office one time and get a prescription for testosterone a week later because 'I don't like how I look and my body is distressing me' or 'I like blue and cars and I don't like skirts' and they wouldn't even warn me about risks to potential babies, let alone make me go through a bunch of tests to prove I'm not pregnant and put me on multiple forms of birth control. And it's not even treating any health issues or preventing them. What makes things worse like an anon said above is that Tgel transfers to other people via touch, so women who take it aren't just endangering themselves and their offspring and their offspring's offspring, they are also endangering random people in public who touch the same door knob as them or sit on the same bus seat or brush against them in the street, and especially people they see and touch regularly. They could be giving random women around them PCOS or other hormonal conditions without that person ever knowing or suspecting anything. The fact that doctors are allowed to be insanely irresponsible with this one class of drugs and surgeries that aren't even a treatment for anything and with the people who take them rarely being informed of the true risks, and will go so far as to guilt trip or even legally override parents who want to block their children from getting them, is truly insanity.
I know it's common for GC women and radfems to say 'I wouldn't want to make transition illegal' or 'do what you want once you're an adult' but even that makes no sense to me. Sure if some troon gets bathtub estrogen or T through some dubiously legal websites they shouldn't be punished or prosecuted for taking the drugs, but in no way should the medical industry be complicit in harming people like this, especially when it can affect other unsuspecting people who haven't consented. There has been a slow creep over the last half-century of pharma companies and medical associations pushing more and more 'medicine' that isn't for the purpose of treating or preventing any actual illnesses and I think we should all as a society stop taking this for granted and considering it normal. Yes I also believe this about non-corrective cosmetic plastic surgery but I know that might be a hot take on lolcow. At least with PS they're only hurting themselves and they usually (unless they're troons) have to pay out-of-pocket for it though.
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they were interviewing a tif in a paper i read (about some imaginary victim shit) and they showed her bedroon.
it's alost scary how identical they all are. how the fuck are they all so similar? are they fucking pod people?
No. 2577346
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Removing an explicit book from the children's section of the library is not the same as banning a book from publication. Teaching children that they have a internal gender soul is religion being taught in schools.
The "read banned books" crowd only endorses reading cutesy books about gender or being gay. Reading banned books isn't cool when it's Irreversible Damage or Mein Kampf or The Turner Diaries or anything actually socially controversial. Most progressives who go on about banned books have the exact opposite core viewpoint and want to ban and censor anything they dislike.
No. 2577368
>>2577193It's a cute bedroom from the layout I see, but the decor is wild. How many pride flags do you need? And the tranny flag is always the largest (and always unironed)
They have no personality outside of twt and tiktok
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I realized something today: the parents of "trans kids" are engaging in a real-life version of the Milgram Experiment. If you're unfamiliar, the Milgram Experiment is meant to test subservience to authority. Basically, the test subject is ordered by a seemingly authoritative figure to deliver increasingly high electric shocks to someone they don't realize is an actor who isn't actually being shocked. The experiment found that the majority of participants would listen to orders even as the voltage increased to lethal amounts and the actors screamed in (what appeared to be) pain. What it basically demonstrated is that the average normie is shockingly willing to listen to authority figures (in this case, scientists) even if it can be plainly observed that the orders are harmful or unethical.
I see a similar level of deference to "scientific authority" with non-MBP parents of "trans kids." They give their gay and/or autistic kids drugs that damage their bones and lower their IQs because ill-informed or ideologically captured doctors tell them to, persisting with the treatment even when it does not produce an appreciable improvement in mental health for their child. Scientist Man told them, you see, so it must be Moral and Safe. They don't account for the possibility of activist influence, publication bias, or how profitable lifelong captive customers are for pharma companies. Look, I generally trust medical science, but it's not perfect, especially when it comes to psychiatric medicine. There used to be "scientific consensus" that lobotomy was safe and ethical, too. If you're a parent who constantly gets fed emotional blackmail by medical professionals who should know better, you're probably convinced that whatever harm you're doing to your kid is "okay" so long as it "prevents" suicide (even though there's no evidence it actually does).
My advice to anons is to trust your own judgement and not to blindly follow those presented as "authorities," although I doubt anyone here needs to be told that. You don't become GC or a radfem if you're the type of person who blindly obeys.
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Sage for a 7 year old post, but do they really think women have no culture? I wish I could say I highly doubt any real woman told him women have no culture, but there’s plenty of handmaidens that have no knowledge about women’s history.
It just goes to show how shallow troon’s understandings of womanhood are.
No. 2577903
>>2577346>Reading banned books isn't cool when it's Irreversible Damage or Mein KampfI've only heard it in passing and I literally thought it was people saying they read mein kampf and similar lmao
But yeah if reading banned books is cool and you recognize books get unfairly banned based on false notions; then also read the books your trans friends burn and ban.
No. 2577965
>>2577266I don't think so but you should try to make one, nonna. There's so much good material out there since they have such a specific and conformist way of consooming and decorating. TIMs always seem to have dirty hoarder goon caves full of plastic anime crap while TIFs always have the wall of plushies, cutesy cactus/bug/dinosaur related art and tons of flags/affirmation posters. Both TIFs and TIMs seem to lack proper furniture and spend their money on figurines and plushies and comic books instead.
>>2577346Yeah it's extremely ironic that they actually try to get speech banned or introduce compelled speech laws, attempt to attack/boycott popular appropriate books and games like Harry Potter, but then whine about books being banned when it's just taking pornographic grooming materials out of elementary and middle school libraries. Those books can still be bought and read, and if they want to indoctrinate their own children into gender theory they're still allowed, but they want to forcibly expose everyone else's children too, on the taxpayer's dime no less.
In Canada recently there was a controversy because most pre-2008 books were taken out of school libraries in one of the provinces, including a lot of classic lit and old children's favorites to modernize and update the collection, and liberals were all for that, mocking the parents who were against removing classic lit from school libraries. They were also all for firing tenured profs and censoring their research into gender medicine if it didn't toe the party line. But the second it's some graphic illustrated sex guide it's literal book burning nazi censorship! If TRAs didn't have double standards they wouldn't have any standards at all.
No. 2578015
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could hrt at puberty for a woman make her grow above 5'3"? what the fuck are they talking about, surely not, right
No. 2578021
File: 1750811334681.png (120.48 KB, 596x914, detrans fearmongering.png)
also here's some more detrans whinging. i see so much talk of 'detransitioners' now that it makes me think the trans movement is starting to collapse internally. which is based
No. 2578053
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just discovered whipping girl. does anyone know more about the author?
No. 2578056
>>2578015HRT, like artificial testosterone for a woman will not make them grow. Human growth hormone has been known to make children taller. But honestly, if your child is perfectly healthy, I would highly advise against HGH from the adverse side effects alone. Better to be a healthy shortie than some cancerous, diabetic, heart disease ridden beanpole.
The best way for a child to grow taller without adverse side effects is adequate exercise, good, high protein diet, and proper sleep.
As someone who used to have a special interest in bodybuilding and studied all these performance enhancing drugs before the troon shit, I think it's fucking insane that doctors are giving women this shit.
They know it's bad, that's why they aren't giving it to scrawny incel moids.
No. 2578117
>>2578091from my experience, tifs love to see vi (hot butch lesbian/bisexual woman) as a tif. this runs the gamut from using he/him to full-on drawing her as the traditional male body with zippertit tattoos.
>>2577193>how the fuck are they all so similar? are they fucking pod people?they all come from the same places and have the same influences. once you've seen enough tifs you will form the useless, magical power of predicting their pronouns and egg crack event or whatever based purely on their pfp.
No. 2578248
>>2578244Women troon out because of abuse
Moids troon out because of porn addiction
Both can because of grooming tho
No. 2578283
>>2575816Nona, I am extremely lanky with big feet/hands and small boobs. I used to want to become a TIF, but not because of my looks, but tbh, I think most of the non-dymorphic people just accept being gnc like me or become thembies. A lot of short men I met are fags, and they embrace it, maybe occasionally paint their nails or wear a skirt or smth. I think troonism just doesn't come naturally to sane people, it's always the bippies who mald over something they can never have and even try to achieve.
I am also malding though because for the past couple of years people assume I am a tranny A LOT. Both TIM and TIF somehow. I hate this shit becoming normalized and I wish I could just exist as a butch woman without invasive questions and transvestigations from randoms on the street.
No. 2578323
File: 1750841229795.webp (1.58 MB, 3840x1600, books_hero.webp)
In a world of trans bs being pushed by the most loud and aggressive people as if it's the "right side of history", it sure is nice to see that every bookshop and kids store in town has a dedicated Harry Potter section. TRA say buying the books or playing the games is "trans genocide", yet even the woke nerdy book store in town has a massive HP section with all sorts of goods. But they wouldn't ever sell nazi books because they know those are actually bad. So they do know the trans stuff isn't true and that people want to buy HP
No. 2578355
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>>2578314No one but TRAs does. They cherry-pick the lowest poly versions of TP Zelda they can find and he still doesn't look right for the part. The versions of Zelda most audiences are currently familiar with are OOT and BOTW, neither of which even remotely resemble Honter, who is a shapeless skelly beanpole with wide shoulders and harsh masculine features. And also he's just too old for the part.
No. 2578397
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average troon supporting moid
No. 2578400
>>2578397This is why I don't support male "
victims"- this guy definitely had his little prostate popped open by his dad and he's taking it out on women.
No. 2578413
>>2578397This isn’t the first male leftist I have seen who has expressed this bitter annoyance over being reminded women and children are sexually abused. They just condescend and tell
victims to STFU, bonus if they call you inferior all around for being stupid enough to get abused in the first place.
No. 2578462
>>2578458Estrogen is much, much weaker than testosterone, that's why women grow full beards and men barely get gynecomastia.
Men on horsepiss still have to get laser hair removal, their voice is still clockable and their hair becomes greasy but that shit doesn't grow back.
No. 2578478
>>2578248I would say it's more accurate that TIFs troon to become non-women while TIMs troon to become what they view as a sex object. I don't think most TIFs on Twitter or Tumblr or TikTok online were abused even if a large chunk were.
>>2578458This is the level or above the level of understanding that normies have for troon issues. Remember that most normies think that troons are homosexuals and that you can actually turn into the opposite sex with hormones and surgery.
No. 2578561
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>>2578146Kek anon it was supposedly a 'miscommunication' but when the articles about it first started getting published I saw tons of leftists defending this and saying it's normal to update school library collections, nothing to see here, kids would be bored by older books anyway or they might be insensitive/racist/sexist so it's good they're gone.
>In the spring, Takata says students were told by staff that "if the shelves look emptier right now it's because we have to remove all books [published] prior to 2008." >Takata is one of several Peel District School Board (PDSB) students, parents and community members CBC Toronto spoke to who are concerned about a seemingly inconsistent approach to a new equity-based book weeding process implemented by the board last spring in response to a provincial directive from the Minister of Education. >They say the new process, intended to ensure library books are inclusive, appears to have led some schools to remove thousands of books solely because they were published in 2008 or earlier.>Parents and students are looking for answers as to why this happened, and what the board plans to do moving forward.>Ellard says he's talked to the parent council, his son's principal and his school board trustee. He's also contacted members of the provincial government, but says he hasn't received a substantial response about what happened in the spring and how the process is intended to work.>"Books published prior to 2008 that are damaged, inaccurate, or do not have strong circulation data (are not being checked out by students) are removed," said the board in its statement. >If damaged books have strong circulation the board says they can be replaced regardless of publication date, and older titles can stay in the collection if they are "accurate, serve the curriculum, align with board initiatives and are responsive to student interest and engagement.">"The Peel District School Board works to ensure that the books available in our school libraries are culturally responsive, relevant, inclusive, and reflective of the diversity of our school communities and the broader society," said the board.>Dianne Lawson, a member of Libraries not Landfills, says teachers told her The Diary of a Young Girl by Anne Frank and The Very Hungry Caterpillar by Eric Carle were removed from their school libraries as part of the PDSB weeding process. Kek the very hungry caterpillar
>"I can't find any sedition in it, or any reason why you would pull this book.">When it comes to disposing of the books that are weeded, the board documents say the resources are "causing harm," either as a health hazard because of the condition of the book or because "they are not inclusive, culturally responsive, relevant or accurate.">For those reasons, the documents say the books cannot be donated, as "they are not suitable for any learners." So, make of that what you will, but I do find it ironic/hypocritical that liberals were supporting this but suddenly outraged at straight-up pornographic grooming books being removed, or are completely fine with Lolita Express bus driver probably getting no more than a reprimand.
No. 2578585
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>>2578053He was one of the most famous and trendy TRA thought leaders 5-10 years ago, largely because he has an actual science education/credentials which he used to lie that sex isn't real/is a spectrum and there's no sex binary in humans, and you know how much TRAs love to defer to The Science so he was a perfect figurehead. Unfortunately Whipping Girl was a really gross AGP book which I don't think did him any favors as most TRAs briefly Htried to distance themselves a little from the more obvious AGP coomers in the community for optics. He's also a hideous freak who barely tries to present female which also made him bad for the tiktok gen so he kind of fell off after tiktok influencing got big.
No. 2578789
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life must be a blast being this delusional
No. 2578816
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im going to puke. fucking skinwalking diseases. yet another case of how these putrid subhumans will never be women. they will never think, act, or resemble us in any shape or form. kill all trannies
No. 2578821
>>2578816Wtf is frotting?
>penetrationKEK so just… faggot shitdick activities?
No. 2578823
>>2578821Frotting is
moids rubbing their dicks together..
No. 2578853
>>2578816>disappointing incels with AGP trying to will themselves to be gay because no real woman wants them (fail)He is crying while penetrating because he is thinking about how stacy rejected him in middle school (because he was a fucking misogynist creep, but that part is left unsaid).
Oh well, on the plus side he was able to make a comic about it for us to make fun of without having to actually see their disgusting bodies.
No. 2578857
>>2578816KEKKKK oh my fucking
god. This sounds like a nightmare.
No. 2578870
>>2578851It's either:
1. They are probably so blind to their own 5 o'clocks they don't see how bad it actually is
2. Too lazy
3. They don't even know lasering off is an option, because they have never had to think about beauty standards beyond what you can do with a regular razor
4. Beard or nah, long hair = woman DUH
5. All of the above
No. 2578888
File: 1750879427547.png (2.78 MB, 1080x6561, 1000053774.png)
The way the responses treat OP and their ex like "she chose her family over some puppylove troon" is giving major cult thinking. Like why are redditors always so keen to make others cut their families off for stupid shit?
I'm pretty sure OP is a TIF due to the anime boy pfp and the "pretend I'm a guy," portion.
No. 2578896
>>2578021>I'm not shaming you BUT you need to shut the fuck up and change your language and how you define your traumatic experiences to protect US!They're so retarded istg. It's no different from silencing
victims of grooming of any other kind.
No. 2578958
>>2578891He wouldn't have proof, but I've been honest about my views with some normies working there who would know it was true. I honestly don't know which side they'd take, though they seemed to agree with me with
terf talking points.
>>2578911Bring up how selfish he was to everyone and hold it against him for the rest of his life.
No. 2578971
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why do troons love to insert their gendieshit onto random characters that aren't the slightest resemblance of a trans person? it ruins fandoms for me and is honestly a nuisance when trying to find new content about a character. (mostly tifs i see around transwash male characters that they want to skinwalk, but there are a number of scrotal trannies around that do it too)
No. 2578996
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>>2578888Sorry I was looking at the comments what the absolute fuck is this?
No. 2579001
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At least they admit that they're delusional narc retards.
No. 2579012
>>2578889Pretend to be interested enough to give him terrible advice. Time to psyop him into getting a rotpocket and enough of a jaw shave that he can't talk! Help him reach the ultimate loli bimbo look by getting him to fry his hair off at home with copious amounts of bleach and recommending budget filler techs from Tiktok! Tell him to go to Mexico for a basement BBL and boob job combo so he can mog alllllll the cisfoids at the nude beach!
If you're worried about him reporting you, give him a trans flag sticker or something every month to keep him quiet, if he malds about you being twansphobic you can point out that you shower him in trans flag crap and applaud his failed attempts to Frankenstein himself into a woman.
>>2578021I've seen a lot more unprompted detrans seething on Tumblr lately. I think that Cass report and the recent UK rulings on women being adult human females has sparked a lot of debate on troonblr that the troons can't counter. More and more detransers are coming out about why they transitioned in the first place, usually homophobia or misogyny, so it doesn't matter that they still sooper dooper support trans rights, their existence points to transgenderism being at least partly fueled by the hatred of women and the hatred of same-sex attraction. Which it is, but nobody's allowed to say it.
The other side of it is the 'de' part of detrans. If someone is trans, they're trans, period- no questioning allowed, no therapy, no looking for other root causes of dysphoria. There can't be a 'de' in 'trans' without the whole modern movement falling apart. Pushing detransers and desisters into a separate shunned category is damage control because they're grifters and liars, and nice trans folqxz don't talk to grifters and liars without suffering the consequences.
No. 2579038
>>2579012>Pretend to be interested enough to give him terrible advice. Time to psyop him into getting a rotpocket KEK but I'm just not as evil as they are. And I don't want to seem actually supportive and alienate any other
terf/gc person who overhears it! I'm playing very innocently unaware and uninterested about troon stuff around him. I really don't want him to think he can tell me more about his transition as if I'm interested, I'm sure he's already seething a bit I didn't squeal and go "omgg let's celebrate you starting HRT and becoming a WOMAN! You're sooo feminine!" like a good little ally should have done.
No. 2579045
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>>2578979Your comment reminds me of picrel
No. 2579053
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at the end of the day, i just can't wrap my mind around the existence of heterosexual tifs who try so hard to fuck gay men that want nothing to do with their pussies. i read a disturbing article that was very fetishtistic and homophobic to gay men, and the tif in the article interview was like "there's nothing wrong with being a gay man who loves cocks, but pussy can bring new forms of pleasure and gay men who have played and enjoyed with my pussy can still be gay". and at the end of the day, i don't get it: don't straight women have the largest dating pool in the entire world when comparing against other groups like bi men, gay men, lesbians (especially), hell even bi women can get rejected more on average than the typical straight woman. there's just so many straight men in the world for them to be with, who would actually delight themselves with their pussies… why throw everything away, including their own health and finances, to try to become a gay man's yaoi fantasy?
No. 2579079
>>2579069I wish straight women realized gay men were men.
Like sure, they don't want to rape you, but they are still misogynists at their core.
No. 2579158
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The irony is always lost on TRAs in that its never TERFs or transphobes that record troons in the bathroom, but rather the perverted TIMs themselves recording themselves getting sexual gratification from invading whats supposed to be a safe space for women. It would be funny if it weren't so frustrating to see these people turn a blind eye or willingly defend people who take advantage of a "marginalized identity" to absolve themselves of accountability
No. 2579160
File: 1750893110976.webm (6.6 MB, 480x270, This never happens (Bathrooms)…)
>>2579158samefag inb4 "this never happens! we just want to pee!" never fucking forget
No. 2579172
>>2579160Samefag as
>>2579167 . Kek these trannies can't stop telling on themselves. Disgusting subhuman filth of the earth, vile troons, seriously I feel like throwing up loll
No. 2579210
>>2579188she didn't, she told people to take photos of trans women
entering bathrooms so that you have a photographic time stamp / evidence and record if anything goes wrong inside and you can build up a database of repeat offenders. But they're projecting again.
No. 2579218
>>2579053It's a mix of many things:
>homophobiaGay men aren't really homosexual to them, they think all gay men can learn to like pussy and it's wrong/bigoted of them to pretend to not like it in the first place. Their magical pussy can satisfy gay men and still be gay, the gay men just need to fuck the
right pussy to like pussy (hers).
>misogyny (+ porn addiction)directed at themselves and refusing to see themselves as "the woman in a relationship" because that's the "demeaning" role to take (as they've learned from porn), and also directed at other women for daring to be in that demeaning role of being a woman (and then they literally go and do the most demeaning only-pleasureable-for-males sex acts to prove how gay they are like anal and sucking them off "as a man" that most straight women don't even do)
>biology denialismThey think a penis can be female, a pussy male. So her seeing her own pussy as male magically makes it so and thus it must be gay for her to get dicked down
>conqueror mentalityIf a gay man is into her, it means she really must be a man. So she must have a gay man to prove to everyone (mostly herself) that gay men really do want to fuck her.
>gay fetishismwe all know of fujos trooning out to live their yaoi fetish dreams
>the rare actual lesbianobviously doesn't fall into the hetero group, but a handful are women who only want other women - but all the lesbians they know are actually just male transbians who they're not into since they're male. But they do want the butch he/him tifs they know, so they call themselves gay men who are into men so they can be attracted to each other "in peace". So on the surface they'll pretend (to themselves too) to be into real gay men too, and that they just so randomly happened to end up with a fellow tif.
No. 2579237
>>2578632Anne Frank wasn't removed because it had sexual content, didn't you read the post? It was removed because it was a pre-2008 book. Obviously Anne Frank's diary didn't have sexual content, she was a little girl when she wrote it. Blanket removing more than half the books from libraries because they're old is horrifying. On the other hand no, I don't think it would be bad to remove books with explicit sexual content from school libraries in general, although curriculum books with sexual content and classics should stay regardless, like 1984 and Brave New World.
>>2578807Kek there's a fantasy element to it, and I also think they can't really picture themselves as actual men so they don't want to choose names actual men have like John, because it would make them too hyperaware of the fact they're trying to skinwalk and look like actual regular moids if they pick a name that moids they meet might share with them. They want to be something fantastical and in-between, even if they claim to think they're really a boy/man. And they need to pick a name that no man they meet will ever have so they don't have to compare themselves directly to moids. TIFism is usually just very extreme NLOGism, not really a desire to be actually moidish.
>>2578822They're canadian, nona. That's all the explanation necessary.
No. 2579274
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No. 2579277
>>2579274I love stupid gendie discourse like this.
>The amab nonbinary he/him is an aggressive predatory creep?>Hmmm! Wonder where u got that!Kekkkk, yes, it truly is a mystery.
No. 2579342
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https://digitalcommons.usf.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=9015&context=etdCan anyone stomach getting through this? Again trying to "re-examine my biases" and "educate myself" by reading this essay (which had over maybe ~10k notes on Tumblr) that posits black women as a major aggressor of black trannies, but:
>Essay opens up with a statistic that says trans women die at higher rates than cis men do…without mentioning that this is due to HIV and AIDS>The sea of trans murders the author harps on about totals out to about 100, over the course of four years>He focuses on 2017 (had like 25 trans murders) and a few of the names he gives seem to be victims of gang violence/wrong place, wrong time>This fucking world salad straight from Twitter No. 2579419
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i've been watching a lot of skeptic/atheist youtube content lately to cope with the rapidly encroaching christian nationalism present within my state, and it pisses me off so badly that all these supposedly Rational Materialists seem to lose the ability to recognize and critique unfalsifiable claims with no basis in reality the moment they come out of a tranny's mouth. the concept of an internal/inherent "gender identity" (especially one that overrides the biological category of sex) has about as much evidence and justification as the fucking flying spaghetti monster and yet they just can't help themselves. they always run with the bogus inflated intersex rates to push some bullshit about how sex isn't binary and then forget the part that's actually relevant to trannies - the fact that humans can't change their sex. bananas. and so embarrassing.
No. 2579473
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>comparing detransitioning to polyamory of all things
>ackshually detransitioners weren't trans to begin with
>wait their experience is valid but it's also not valid
>insults other people's reading comprehension
KEK they truly are retarded
No. 2579475
File: 1750919797225.jpeg (111.12 KB, 1231x626, tif.jpeg)
>>2579473and ofc it's a he/they tif that looks like this. they truly are made in a factory
No. 2579545
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Man is when comfortable and baggy. Woman is hot pants and crop top. I guess I am always a man when I’m in the house or wear pants. #breakinggendernorms.
I don’t get how leftists even take this movement seriously. It’s the same old conservatism painted in a progressive way.
No. 2579603
>>2579419One woman I party with, a biologist, is one of the leading skeptics in my country, they even do yearly awards for pseudoscientist's most retarded ideas but for some reason she belives troons, gives them platform, hates JK and stuff like that. It's mental but I think it's because of her insecurity. She knows she's not atractive and probably feels like troons aren't attractive too and so she thinks they have a lot in common. And so if she thinks she has a lot in common with troons, she think all women do.
Really any proffesional scientist I ever met had just one specific thing they belived in in a reigious way even though they seemed very rational in everything else. It's bizzare, like some mental glitch that happens to scientists.
No. 2579611
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>>2579545guys can't even look good in pants like that
No. 2579947
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>>2578889samefag, I can't stop thinking about a line in particular this troon told me which was something like
>"hormones changes how you think, men and women think differently so it will be so interesting to have my thoughts change"And there were so many things I wanted to scream in his face. Like firstly, so you admit you're currently a man with man-thoughts? And you think hormones will second-puberty you into having woman-thoughts… so the only way for you to become a woman is to change your real natural thoughts. Because your real natural thoughts are man-thoughts. And that's not a clue that you're literally just a man?
Secondly how the fuck is a second puberty when it's just a medically induced a hormone disorder? Do you seriously think a man who has a hormone disorder is suddenly thinking "like a woman"? You think body builder women who take steroids (testosterone) are now literal men and think like men and forget what their dainty woman-thoughts are supposed to be like? You're just gonna get "brain fog" as you brain shuts down.
And again "puberty"? Nothing happens that is even close to the real single puberty people experience, it's just not how human development and aging works. And you think it's a "female puberty" happening to your male body? Sir do you have a fucking uterus, will you fucking bleed on your period? Becoming fertile is literally the main point of puberty and if anything you're making yourself infertile (which to be fair may be good because god forbid that you ever fucking breed). No, your body will just desperately fight the hormone disorder you induced because it's not natural to it because it's male. You won't even grow female breasts, you will get male gynecomastia which happens to like 35% of men naturally anyway, it's literally a normal male state for your male body to be in. In fact you could just eat more and get bigger male obesity breasts.
And lastly I'm 90% sure this guy once told me some form of dementia runs in his family. Congratulations, you activated your own trap card and summoned early on-set dementia for yourself. Your muscles will rot away and your brain will malfunction, and you think that means you're a woman? Get fucking real.
No. 2580071
>>2579960As a looksmaxx forum milk EXPERT, you have to factor in that like 90% of the posts are low quality filler garbage. I don't know why some xenforo forum admins do this, but they love those shitty glowing profile levels. IIRC you can upgrade your rank via number of posts, so a lot of the shit you see is inflammatory glowie bait that gets screencapped and posted all over plebbit. On more locked down forums that aren't as popular as .org it's an openly discussed topic, full threads of these retards trying to brainstorm the stupidest bait posts. Shit about women being slaves, rape fantasies, '12 year olds are prime maturity' etc. are mostly low quality bait, though some of it is laced with true beliefs that can't really be voiced on forums with that many eyes on them.
Isn't this British (sco'ish?) lady the same one who stopped showing her face due to moids being creepy? I watch her stuff as background filler, and her videos are pretty enjoyable, especially the ones referencing old internet stuff most normies forgot/don't know about. You kinda have to be surface level handmaiden-y as a female content creator unless you want to unleash the wrath of a thousand Liliths.
No. 2580075
>>2580002It's sweet of you to be so naive you believe fucking with your hormones doesn't automatically come with negative health effects. It doesn't depend on the person, it's just that most of it isn't visible to the naked eye. You can't see their brain fog, their weakened bones, how their cancer risk goes up, autoimmune diseases appearing or getting worse, the way their internal organs are damaged, their infertility… And remember when they say "I had no negative effects" they WANT some of those negative effects. They think their larynx growing to get a croaky "male" frog voice is a good thing. But they can no longer sing, nor scream for help, because their voice no longer physically allows it. And when their clit grows into what they pretend looks like a "micro penis" they ignore how painful it is, and the lasting infertility is fine in the moment because they're 25 and immature and think they'll never want kids. And the males, they think losing muscles is fine and makes them look smaller/like women and ignore the fact that it's their bodies breaking down and weakening, that the brain fog means they're "dumb and bad at math, like a real girl teehee".
No. 2580381
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whenever my online friends start to flirt with trans identities (always a male) i start to gender them the hardest, if they're not really trans why would it be transphobia? you're such a good balls-having male man boy oozing testosterone and xy chromosomes!
on the other hand i wish i had NORMAL online friends that weren't one touhou game away from trooning out. it's so isolating when you're the only one not poisoned by TRA ideology. i don't want to ruin years-long friendships over THAT.
No. 2580714
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i actually feel bad for this woman, shes so close to peaking. id try to peak her myself but id just get banned so it doesnt really matter.
No. 2580728
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trannies are so delusional
No. 2580784
>>2578015did anyone notice that the last commenters username is "prettiest baby boy"? kek
thats some shit an overbearing mother says to her son, not what an actual man calls himself. why are so many tifs obsessed with self-infantilization?
No. 2581049
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>>2578397>>2578711According to the book Fat Chance by a friend of Stephen Fry(Simon Gray). Gray tells an anecdote about the time one of their acquaintances, Rik Mayall was disgusted by Fry's paedophile apologism and refused to work with him.
No. 2581056
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>>2581049I can't stand his gross face, he already gave me bad vibes before reading about that incident. He also married a man 30 years younger than him.
No. 2581256
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>>2580714This woman is retarded and mentally ill. The way troons talk about puberty as some "medical event" that children should be able to revoke consent to is disgusting.
No. 2581376
>>2581256Lol that she thinks going on testosterone even earlier would have somehow made her not female or 'reversed' anything, these people are so delusional it's unreal. Like what would earlier HRT have actually accomplished? She would still have had to reverse or 'undo' almost all the same things and just would have started ruining her health younger. Even girls who went on blockers younger than 13 and then took T still had mastectomies done because they still had some breast growth anyway and everything else just would have been worse.
Also kek at whining about how her parents trying to raise her as her actual sex was some awful abuse she should be able to sue them for in one post and then, in the next, talking about how she should have started accepting being female earlier and how she needs to start doing it now at an older age. So which is it? Your parents clearly tried to wait it out and hoped you would accept being female but you decided to ruin your life and health for a delusion instead, now you're blaming them for not encouraging you to be even more delusional?
No. 2581381
>>2581256This was a hard read. This woman hates herself. She went through top surgery, hormones for years and still doesnt get that she cant change her sex. She can cut her hair short, grow a beard and she wont pass as a man because she isn't a man, and will never be one. It's insane to me how this is all presented loud and clear in front of them. Instead of realizing how society and other men treat women, she wants to hate her parents for not putting her on HRT and blockers as a child. Holyshit.
She mentions other trannies not calling her he/him. How much do you want to bet they are MTFs? kek
No. 2581591
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Apologies if this person has been posted already, but this is a tif who has gone from one extreme to another. In addition, magatards have been accusing her of being a biological male and refuse to understand how being on testosterone works, as well as retarded pro-troons pulling the "you were never trans" card. When you step back, a lot of this gender fight outside the stuff brought to the table by radfems and some gay males who feel like they dodged the troon bullet, it's two group of ignorant retards going to war with each other. I just wish people would stop being so adamant about trying to find a box for themselves and use their heads for once, but i know that will never happen.
No. 2581830
>>2581591People who fall for a cult are more likely to fall for yet another cult, that's a known fact. They're unstable people who want to be told what to think and easily give into group-think. If maga-tards keep bullying her she might finally end up getting tired of it and realize she should think for herself instead.
But on some level it makes sense, why wouldn't she absolutely hate the side that lied to her for years and led her to destroy and mutilate her body permanently? They quite literally ruined her life. Doing the absolute most to not be part of or mistaken of being on that side and making them stay away from her is also a type of coping and protecting herself. So again, it's likely she'll eventually mellow out start thinking for herself once she's healed more from the trans trauma.
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>>2581964i haven't had a social media account in over a decade. Not worth it.
No. 2582021
>>2582001It gets so
toxic. My last straw was a t4t TIM and TIF couple being all like "we're so gay for each other hihi ooh you big homo". I'm a lesbian. I'm so fed up with straight people using gay as a cool dude button. Meanwhile it's just so evident neither of them see their partner as their dreamed identity, the TIM thinks he's in lesbians whith his girlfriend and the TIF thinks she's gay with her boyfriend, it's so ridiculous. They got so mad too. Ugh. At least I'm free now.
No. 2582039
>>2581964I am so that the two discords i frequent for dress up games i like either has a straight up rule banning lgbt discussions (unless you in passing mention your have a bf/gf or whatever) or the members are normie women with jobs, are esl or have careers and are focused on other things. I literally cannot stand how there is an expectation to care so deeply about trans rights and that you want to hear about their nasty procedures that honestly make me want to gag hearing about it and apparently telling them to stop because you feel
triggered would make you a transphobe (real experience btw). They have zero compassion or consideration for anyone outside their stupid cult.
No. 2582211
>>2581995>theres no fucking way its less than 1% of the population I literally cant escape it online or offline kek Yeah like how that teacher raised an alarm because 90% of her class were identifying as trans and she got fired for pointing it out.
Supposedly about 1-2% of people use a wheelchair in my country, and I've known ONE wheelchair user in my entire life. Yet I see troons everywhere I go, and I know like 10 just in my own vicinity. And even funnier is that I know if I go into certain nerdy spaces, there will be troons there. And they all have the same exact political stances and thoughts. Every time. Unlike with wheelchair users who all have different personalities and can't be predicted.
No. 2582238
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Redditors not realizing that your average person doesn’t want males in women’s sports is kind of hilarious. The hug box and eco chamber is so crazy in here, you immediately get banned if you don’t post something along the lines of “trannies are valid!! This is genocide!”
No. 2582239
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>>2582238Thing is that now these organization can follow up and protect women’s sports. I believe that in the coming years trannyism will back down at least in sports.
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>>2582238We obviously have the “this is going to negatively affect masculine women!1!1!1!” Kek.
No. 2582258
>>2582165I feel like the women who do this are scared to face the world as women. they're intimidated by feminists who speak frankly about male violence and its effects on the world. or maybe they just have some token moids they themselves like. they might take the easy route of blaming feminists for creating their own problems. they might say "it happened to her because she's a particular type of person, and I'm not that". They might think it's an easier time to appease the male, rather than fight head-on as a female. maybe they think feminists are just shrill whiny bitches.
but i also think it's because TIMs appropriate the aesthetics of the "man-hating radfem" in order to bully TIFs for trooning out instead of staying cute kawaii lil girls. they get to skinwalk as the exact type of chicks who reject them. it must be such a high, because they love doing it. then the moid doesn't feel like he's stuck to the moid role, now he's the quirky lesbian bullying those ugly transmen. now they're stuck in his old role. he has shed his old skin and placed it on someone else.
so in this situation, the only way for a TIF to fight back while still respecting this brave beautiful (incel) trans wahmen's identity is to say "men deserve respect, too!" "men have feelings too!" etc. The TIMs know this. They're men, after all, and they're probably intimately familiar with being laughed at by feminists. So they know the double-bind they're putting these women in. They know that either these TIFs are gonna sound like TERFs or MRAs, and either way they can be ostracized and isolated, all while ramping up the bullying. They know that if these TIFs go MRA, then they'll be alienating their cis feminist friends too. If they go
TERF, they're alienating their TIF friends. That's part of the plan.
So I think it's important to take into account that some of these TMRAs are reacting to TIM abuse, but they might ally themselves with cis moids to feel more secure in their gender, because then they feel less female, less
victim. I think TIMs can smell blood like sharks do, so they specifically attack these women's coping mechanism to watch them flail around for fun.
If a TIF tries to say she doesn't have male privilege, then the TIM will accuse her of leaning back on her privileged birth assignement & condescending to a transwoman, etc, etc. No matter if she's a cis woman or a trans man, the moid can claim she oppresses him. That's the sum of their theory. Plus some TIFs don't want to go through the trouble of trying to explain all the female hardships they've gone through to "prove" they don't have male privilege, so they might just say "fuck it, yeah I'm a moid, so what?" rather than pour their hearts out to unsympathetic ears that will twist the words whichever way they have to in order to make her out to be the villain anyways. So why not "own" being the "villain"?
except its the villain to a bunch of autists.
No. 2582273
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TRAs back at it again. They made this murales at Glastonbury about sending people that make living in the world difficult to mars. You have literal rapists, far rights and then you have JKR kekk. It’s always ridiculous when they put her among war criminal and abusers kek.
No. 2582274
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>>2582273She looks so based and hot though. I need her.
No. 2582286
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>>2582274They unintentionally made her look iconic honestly and fortunately some based women have improved it. Disregard the classless tranny with the permanent marker.
No. 2582350
>>2582258>they get to skinwalk as the exact type of chicks who reject them. it must be such a high, because they love doing it. then the moid doesn't feel like he's stuck to the moid role, now he's the quirky lesbian bullying those ugly transmen. now they're stuck in his old role. he has shed his old skin and placed it on someone else.Agreed.
I knew a man who crashed out when hearing about a woman in his friend group trooning, saying she was throwing away her female privilege (sex appeal, entirely. This guy was a giga gooner). He didn’t make am ends with her and apologize for his “regressive” behavior until he started trooning himself. Predictably, an agp with a bimbo vtuber avatar.
He was upset she was throwing away her goon potential until he realized he could just take it for himself. I doubt his discontent ended, but he was made less anxious when he found his own coping mechanism. He’s less frantic about goon objects (feminine women) escaping him when he has one to control in himself. He probably thinks she’s retarded for the same reasons still, but less panicked about it
I’d also guess it can become some sort of retribution fantasy, as you said. Where these men feel like they are correcting some unfair conspiracy. Where men (deservingly, he thinks) get to take the esteemed position of sex object, and those unfit women have the honor stripped from them. They probably see it as some sort of retribution. I mean, according to their incel logic, it is.
No. 2582356
>>2582322I don’t know if intimidated is the right word. I think pickmes, including tifs, are put off by feminists for implying men are bad. They want to pretend men aren’t so bad.
It’s not like they are denying it maliciously, they aren’t active moid agents who want to perpetuate abuse.
I think the reason is that it’s extremely painful to accept. Even Dworkin talks about this. It’s terrifying, isolating, and heart breaking to accept half the population are as awful as they keep proving themselves to be. They prefer to pretend like it isn’t true, by choosing to interpret males and their behavior in the most charitable way they can muster.
It’s like how children of an
abusive parent often cope. Their dad can beat the shit out of them and treat them like dirt, but if they still see “the good” in him, excuse his actions, continue to “love” him, then it’s not so bad. What can be ignored/denied is ignored/denied, what can’t becomes flaw that could potentially be fixed. They refuse to accept their parent is fundamentally bad. It would be too painful for a child who actually want to love their father to accept he is irredeemable.
Men do this too, usually more cynically. Pickmes hate feminists for trying to make them acknowledge the reality of male dysfunction because it’s painful.
Men hate feminists (and all women who speak about their abuse at the hands of men)not because it’s painful for them to accept male cruelty (they already believe it, they’re men). They just hate their dirty laundry being aired, because it could make their potential
victims more savvy and avoidant.
A child will defend and deny the abuse from their father to cling to love and hope. The
abusive father will defend and deny his abuse to continue abusing, including avoiding facing external consequences.
No. 2582471
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>>2582286How do trannies feel knowing they would be rallying alongside Christian fundamentalists in the 90s?
No. 2582591
>>2582074>>Spiking someone's drink with HRT, teehee!Reminds me of the old days where girls online would say things like "I'm gonna show you Orange is the New Black so you can turn lesbian!!"
It's a surprise nobody has held Tumblr responsible for all this shit.
No. 2582831
>>2582828Samefag but it's the classic walking alone at night thing. Men are worried about being mugged and maybe injured. Women are scared of being rapped, kidnapped, in addition to being mugged.
>>2582829You are one person. All of reality and human history tell a different story.
No. 2582898
>>2582895It is true. This is such a tiresome discussion. Women aren't weaker than men because women all starve themselves or some other
victim blaming bullshit, it's biological.
No. 2582905
>>2582898Bruuutal
Ai is the superior model for being monosex
No. 2582917
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>>2582898I agree, I'm saying that there are edge cases where biology doesn't quite apply. Not all women are waifs. The average man has male strength but he's not the hulk. Yes, I think a female wrestler could take down the average guy without a lot of trouble.
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Saw this ad on my city's subreddit (not logged in, I only go on there to check for posts about accidents and the like), no words.
No. 2582950
>>2582940There is nothing more retarded than tirfs kek
>women are oppressed due to the patriarchy that’s why, this special man, who truly has the essence of a woman, should be the priority of feminism.>gender roles are a tool to oppress women but guess what they are affirming to our trans sisters so we should achsually be intersectional!!!That’s how they sound to me. They solely speak about trannies because they have to contort every radical notion to include males with dick , balls, male audacity and male entitlement.
No. 2582971
>>2582940>>2582950Some tirfs are crypto or slowly peaking but the rest are just plain retarded or want validation points for based takes on how ebil moids are but don't want to offend the "dolls". Nobody is gonna give you a gold star for being a
TERF, misogynists and moids already hate radfeminism for everything it stands for.
No. 2583056
>>2582940That's why the honorary
terf blog exists, to reblog gendies accidentally posting radical feminist commentary kek.
Also why TRAs have to shamelessly lie about what radfems believe in order to make them the villains. Like yeah it's totally radical feminists who think women shouldn't be allowed to have short hair and need to wear makeup. Sounds legit.
No. 2583119
>>2583061I mean a military trained 5’7 woman could take a normal couch potato scrote. Just like your average runner would outrun a normal scrote. I don’t get why some of you act like women are sooooooo physically weaker than men. On average it’s true that a scrote will be stronger , but if you compare women and men in different ranges they do have a chance.
But if you ask me who wins between a military woman and a military man I would unfortunately have to say the man.
No. 2583209
>>2583177It's the naive, Steven Universesque mentality of "everyone has good inside them and we just treat everybody as nicely as possible everyone will turn out a moral person uwu".
I somewhat held to this belief when I was younger—until I start to realize how men do tend to be the aggressors to women and themselves.
No. 2583330
>>2583116The immediate wahwah cope of an antifeminist whenever someone points out to her that women weren't oppressed by men for millennia because we deserve it, but because they are stronger.
>>2583119Absolutely not true kek. I know women who have been trained in the military and they are easily overpowered by 'average' couch potato moids. A moid without training will still have higher overall strength than a trained woman. Some of you have never done sports and it really shows.
>>2583171Too bad they're illegal basically everywhere except the US and the US left has been trying to make them illegal for decades also.
>>2583214Yes it's this. A lot of people base most of their political opinions on idealism, and this includes the type of people who say 'women would easily overpower moids if we just ate more and didn't wear heels' as well as other libfem/radfem silliness of 'if we just raised them to be nice, moids would be nice and not harm us' or 'why don't we ask criminals nicely to stop harming us' kek. It always ends up with women blamed for what moids are like.
No. 2583692
>>2583171I always believed that it’s only women who should have the right to carry kek. Men should be evaluated and only a certain category of them can own a gun.
Make me president next time nonnas.
No. 2583707
>>2583119Nope, I can back up what
>>2583151 said. I trained and trained and had a boxing coach and a special diet and was actually really proud of the progress I made, to the point I challenged to an arm wrestle my sit-at-home stoner moid friend who hadn't had a job in years, had never seen the inside of a gym in his life, only exercise was pulling cones. I thought he would be low hanging fruit. Absolutely fucking wrecked. I was devastated.
I've seen middle-aged WoW-playing borderline hikkikomori neckbeards lift a fridge and walk it downstairs after me and my friends spent ages trying to lever it on to a dolly.
I've seen shit, man. God is male and he laughs at us
No. 2583728
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>>2583717Well ok except for Jesus, I know he's on our side
No. 2584106
>>2574678READ THIS!
This is how maleoids really think about women and I'm trying to discuss with them, pointlessly – they see troonism as sth convenient to
toxic masculinity. Ewwwwwwwww:
https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/509036541#p509046910(retard linking to own 4chan posts on multiple threads) No. 2584349
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Absolutely terminal NLOGism
No. 2584350
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>>2584349Samefag. Convenient, isn't it?
No. 2584372
>>2583943Ayrt, I still think of men as the inferior sex. They have retard strength, that is all.
>>2584053Of course, as a species we're weak but we dominate. However we could not have done so if we were all deluded into thinking humans are stronger than buffalo and gorillas and I dunno… anacondas and shit. Know your enemy.
No. 2584389
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>>2584376That stereotype stopped being true a long time ago kek
No. 2584393
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>>2584389he's a straight man that pretends to be gay for attention. And you missed the best one.
No. 2584406
>>2584393I was thinking of that but I forgot exactly where it was from, I never noticed those puke stains on his shorts.
>pretends to be gay for attentionThis kind of histrionic-level attention seeking behaviour is so faggy he deserves to be an honorary faggot
No. 2584677
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youre not allowed to say theres any grooming or coercion in the trans community but theyll be out here making literal transitioning propaganda kek this shit is so cringy
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>>2584677not groomers btw
No. 2584774
>>2584677One shot and you too can get early-onset osteoporosis, vaginal atrophy, brain fog, mega clit and higher risk of cancer!
TRANS JOY!
No. 2584790
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>>2584104>>2584204both of you should check out season 8 episode 4 of alone and see Theresa, a prehistoric archaeologist and bushcrafter. She models how little strength is actually needed to build a common dwelling, the pit house, with basic tools for survival. she was the runner up that season surviving off of just roots alone. gathering really did provide the bulk of calories for the least expenditure along with setting up traps; which is also not a strength task. it makes you wonder as the human brain became larger and humans became less violent what is the purpose of men's strength? if you watch male contestants on the show, they really struggle to eat enough calories to retain muscle mass and most lose it very quickly, it's very much a handicap.
No. 2584831
>>2584790>if you watch male contestants on the show, they really struggle to eat enough calories to retain muscle mass and most lose it very quickly, it's very much a handicapIt really,
really feels like nature didn't want men to live beyond the age of 27 kek
No. 2584973
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>>2584677>>2584710Forcefem: a widespread AGP fetish and entire porn subgenre with a community built around countless hypnosis audio tracks and captioned pornography. content convinces the male viewer to "degrade" himself into becoming a woman.
Forcemasc: created by Tumblr TIFs after they noticed that forcemasc doesn't exist for some mysterious reason. consists of artsy poetic graphics and aesthetic affirmations about how going on Testosterone is awesome found on Pinterest and Tumblr. doesn't attempt to insult the viewer, but convinces her that she's capable of becoming a man.
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This was very well put
No. 2585038
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>>2584973is that John Lennon, the wife beater?
No. 2585062
>>2584710What the fuck is a radqueer?
I always thought all queers were just spicy straights
No. 2585078
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>>2585062Someone who accepts any identity, including contradicting or outright stupid ones. Male lesbians, bisexual gays, trans-age, things like that. They also can’t decide if xenogenders/neoprouns (pupgender, cat/catself) are radqueer or not. It’s all stupid as fuck and a sign they lost touch with reality
No. 2585101
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It's exhausting.
No. 2585128
>>2585043Loser male goes on Discord, gets exposed to countless troon "memes" and "jokes" (porn), AGPs groom him and suggest he's an egg too, starts watching sissy hypno and bambi sleep, troons out! Many such cases!
>>2585062It's a term for someone who accepts all harmful sexual paraphilias (pedo, incest, zoo, rape, etc) including people who are ex-offenders and "pro-contact". They also support people who are transage, transrace, transwhatever. They think degenerates are oppressed in society. Essentially a pedo community of people who should all be thrown into a volcano
https://radqueer-terms.carrd.co/https://radqueerinfo.neocities.org/ No. 2585146
>>2585101>do animals have genderno.
I got more important questions: Why the fuck do TIMs always do the droopiest cat eye eyeliner? Why is it at 240p potato ass quality video I can see lipstick caked on his teeth? Why is he wearing a party tiara meant for 6 year old girls? Why is this physical embodiment of a red flag not in a gulag?
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>>2584973>>2585220Basically this then.
No. 2585367
>>2581596Thank you so much nona I am going to check that out when I have more time on my hands. Much love and I hope you have a nice day!!
>>2581142She has read that in the past, but didn't agree with JKR. Maybe now that I've sown the seed of peaking she'll be more receptive of it kek
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friend showed me this tweet and it left me feeling nothing but confusion. why do they get so mad over the word biological female? i went on their profile as well and they kept getting furious over people referring to them as “they/them” instead of “she/her”. i just don’t get it. why do these people take everything so personally? i am truly perplexed
No. 2585581
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>>2585509Any reference to the fact that actual women exist is verboten for TRAs, whether that's mentioning a specific body part, reproductive functions or just in general. TIFs will get upset about the reminder they are female, and TIMs will get upset about the reminder they aren't. It's totally fine to talk about men and male body parts in any way you like, of course.
In other news, another of JKR's detractors turns out to be a pedophile and water is wet.
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>>2585581Really? Another one? God damn pedos really are as stupid as they are predatory.
No. 2585752
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>your brain is trying to ask the body for hormones it can't produce
No. 2585820
>>2585509This is what happens when you decide your life’s purpose is to prove a negative.
Imagine if someone dedicated themselves entirely to proving 1+1=3, an equation which can never be substantiated. Instead of conceding the point, they hunt for any and all possible variables in vain attempt to jerryrig a substitute. They will toil endlessly to prove the unprovable in any way they can conceive. The potential arguments to be formed are infinite, because the point itself is null. They fabricate more and more complex abstractions and hoist them into the public to test their validity and see how far it can take them. The goalpost is always moving because the goalpost doesn’t and can’t exist. No matter how close you think you get, you can’t decrease something into nothing.
Not even total population enslavement and mind control programs can make a human female from a human male (if he were ever male in the first place, he could never be a woman in the first place)
But they will inevitably take such measures if they are capable, continuing to stuff more numbers in the decimal line between 1 and 0. You never reach the zero. You count numbers until the heat-death of the universe.
This is why troonshit rhetoric has no internal consistency, their definitions and demands morph and escalate by the minutute. Why it is a slippery slope, because that’s the only thing it could ever be. Troon logic is just an infinite spiral towards a point that will elude them into infinity. YWNBAW. 1+1=2.
No. 2585877
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Two brave and stunning 'dolls' wrestling in a pit of queso (?)
https://bsky.app/profile/janus.bsky.social/post/3lsr5wxfqw22v. I support Zohran whatever but it depresses me that this shit is inextricable from his campaign. Not to sound like a Libs of Tiktok post but they are laughably degenerate and stupid.
No. 2585896
>>2585820I was typing this out before I read this post
>>2585752You can see him demonstrate exactly what I was talking about. How you cannot exist as something you are not.
>But I want to be biological girl I don't feel like one as I wasn't born a girlAnd he’s right. He can only ever be a “trans woman”, his fate to exist in his current reality was sealed at the universe’s conception. Everything that led to the existence of “Olivia” would have to be voided. It’s not just the sperm carrying the Y chromosome that sealed his fate. It was what created the male who created it, his protozoan ancestor whose actions led to the creation of that male, the stars that were born and died to create the material to form the protozoan and its environment, the incomprehensible forces that constructed the framework
for this all to take place, and so on and so forth.
Even if we have sci-fi transhumanist technology to make him physically and functionally indistinguishable from a woman, he will still never be an authentic woman. He will continue to be a man who was turned into a facsimile of a woman, because a woman is, not becomes.
He may not be able to articulate it, but he knows. You can’t survive long on this planet as an organism by not knowing what a something is, and knowing what a something isn’t.
Kinda funny how one of the few time a man experiences helpful “intuition”, he deliberately chooses to disobey it.
The other coping troon just tells him to cope similarly. by rearranging his perspective in such a way that ends with his void being “validated”, which will just be the dragon he chases until he finally comes to terms with reality
No. 2585925
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I used to like nyx fear's channel as a teenager and i just remembered he existed, why did he have to troon out into the ugliest tranny of all time? His channel has completely fallen off since too and he gets barely any views despite having over 100k+ subscribers, shit is bleak kek Why do they all do this awful makeup that gives "moids perception of a goff girl" vibes? I know its them doing a low-effort skinwalk of some girl they had a crush on 15+ years ago, but like, you really cant watch a few youtube videos to learn how to do eyeliner that suits your extremely hooded eyes? He really thought this picture was good enough to be a profile picture, the male ego is insane
No. 2585989
>>2585752How long until "cis" is considered 'terfy' and tranny phobic language?
>>2585925KEK the 'women don't want me so i'll become the token ~goth girl~ myself' MtF genre is one of my favorites, they all look so hideous. Also, why do people with that type of eyelid/brow ridge fucking love doing their eyeliner in a shape that makes their eyes even more neanderthal looking?
No. 2586017
>>2586009His father (an IVF doctor) has already been revealed as a criminal who stole women's embryo's and implanted them in other women without their consent. All Pedro had to say about it was how difficult it was for him and his family. Fucking pathetic to come for an angel like JKR when you've got that skeleton in your closet.
But yeah same, I can't wait for him personally to fuck up or get exposed and subsequently turned on.
No. 2586046
>>2585581>>2585677Is there a list of these guys somewhere?
>>2586009Pedro “I have to constantly touch my pretty female costars because I have anxiety uwu” Pascal and Stephen “ugh stop expecting sympathy for being a csa
victim you whiner” Fry. It’s only a matter of time. With Fry in particular it appears to be an open secret in the industry that he’s into pederasty
>>2581049so it wouldn’t surprise me if this turned into a gay Jimmy Saville-lite situation after Fry’s death.
>>2586017And his brother is a troon. This is not a family of men who respect women as people.
No. 2586183
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>>2585509nta but the og tweet that started the spergout made me think of something. we all know gender ideology favours males and tims so much that it's basically a MRA movement but nowhere has this been more obvious than the whole "trans athletes in sports" debate.
the last reply in picrel made me realise that all this time i've never seen a single TRA or TRA organisation rally support for tifs being in pro sports even though tifs are arguably even more limited in their options and more disadvantaged than tims since synthetic testosterone is an absolute no-no in those areas. but no, everyone has to be about men's feefees all the time.
No. 2586192
>>2586183I once saw my mutuals celebrate the "proof" that a tif who was "forced" to compete with girls in some sport (iirc wrestling) won everything means that she's a man who should have been allowed to compete with boys instead. They were saying "look HE won against girls, so this is what you terfs want - trans boys beating the girls"
Yes the one girl who is literally actively taking anabolic steroids in the form of testosterone to get bigger muscles won, big surprise? Those drugs are literally defined as cheating and it shouldn't have been allowed in the first place.
And that's the one single time I've heard about trans men in sports from any of them, despite their entire lives revolving around troon rights and them being aggressive TRA.
No. 2586234
>>2586194They do this even in sci-fi settings where there’s magic or super-advanced technology that makes physical bodies extremely malleable or interchangeable which you’d think would render transgenderism moot. Don’t like the configuration of the body you were born with? Fine, just drink this sex-swap potion or upload your personality-chip to a new body, nbd. But no, even in these settings they want characters who are visibly trans.
>>2586208Men, women and uterus-havers.
No. 2586258
>>2585989cis means someone identifies with the gender/sex assigned to them at birth so probably never. they claim it’s just the opposite of trans but it really signals adherence to their ideology. you can’t say a born woman who accepts she’s a woman to them lol (or you can, but you’ll get called a
terf)
No. 2586269
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I have some questions for the thirdies ITT. I was thinking about how in a lot of western, developed countries troons are a somewhat common sight, therefore it would make sense for GC women to hate them more often. It made me wonder what GC women in third world countries with more severe misogyny and fewer troons think of them, namely TIMs. Males who throw away their privilege and larp as (the most) oppressed class, meanwhile many thirdie women don't have nearly as much freedom as them. So my question is, how do troons make you feel in relation to your enviroment? Do you have to deal with them often in your country? Are they any different to the troons from western countries (in mannerisms, entitlement and appearance)? I also wonder what you think of TIFs, I know many anons have a soft spot for them, but do you resent them at all?
No. 2586296
>>2586269they are not a common thing, progressive ideology only infects a small section of the populace that larps as american and consumes american products and ideology without questioning. All the AGPS would just emigrate to america or europe to do their faggotry.
The trannies that you find are the stereotypical affeminate gay man that works as hairdressers or escorts, none of the computer programmer transbian types that are so common abroad.
No. 2586299
>>2586269The TIMs in my thirdie country are almost all HSTSs—AGP transbians are completely nonexistent where I'm from (inch resting).
I see them in public from time to time, some still look obviously male while others can pass pretty well until you hear their voice. To the average normie here, they're lumped into the same category as effeminate gay men, and effeminate gay men are seen as "honorary women" here.
Though, I don't consume that much social media content about LGBT+, I'd say my country's TIMs are way less deranged (with some acknowledging that they're biologically male). Probably has something to do with us being stuck in the same thirdie country where everyone has to work to survive, so fart huffing is too much of a privilege here.
As for TIFs, I genuinely have no idea. They're a rare sight—though like AGP freaks, I'm pretty sure fujoTIFs aren't really common. Most are most likely self-hating lesbians.
No. 2586320
>>2586269Latinonna. Most TiMs were HSTS until very recently. With English bilingualism and ubiquitous social media use though I already know about two separate AGP pedos and countless tifs. It’s near 100% an anglicized zoomer thing. In my regular life I will see zero trannies with the streak broken by a very effeminate faggot hsts - misogyny included, and causing the expected wow, you look even more like a woman than I do! From actual normie women, and then I’ll go to a convention to sell and a substantial chunk of my customer base is programmer sock AGPs and, most prominently, fandom fujotifs, all of who are absolutely noncommittal and hyperfeminine. Notably, among these people at events Spanglish is basically the norm. They talk and text entire sentences in English.
I hate them both because this is a society without legal abortion and spotty legal gay marriage. Women were never seen as completely human and in societies that misogynistic, gendie retardation thrives. I pray it never takes hold systematically, that people here not saturated in USA social media bullshit continue to disregard it, but it’s so palatable to the conservatard views since they’re the same thing, so I’m never sure. I’m already getting called he and they by fandom zoomers IRL so it makes me feel hopeless and grim.
Also, it’s important to note that this is a phenomenon mostly in cosmopolitan urban centres. Rural people have no time for this bullshit. Similarly, it’s very localized to the upper middle classes, and anyone working class parroting all this is absolutely doing it as a way to show off status, that they’re better and more educated than the plebs basically.
No. 2586415
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>>2586269>how do troons make you feel in relation to your enviroment? Do you have to deal with them often in your country?i see an occasional teenager with a trans flag pin on the bus but that's it. i currently don't get to interact with people my age irl as often (all my coworkers are sweet older zoomer/millenial/middle-aged ladies, so grown adults basically) but when i used to go to college gendies were pretty common there (art major) and they were very annoying and entitled.
male trannies are still kind of underground and they mostly dwell in niche tech-themed telegram channels while tifs and enby women are obnoxiously loud and pround in more mainstream social media like instagram, twitter and tumblr and they make up a big part of local art and fandom spaces. they like to preach their ideology to unknowing normies and act like tweeting is activism
>Are they any different to the troons from western countries (in mannerisms, entitlement and appearance)?no not at all except they like to take our culture and enshittify it with "queerness" because it's trendy at the moment. it's really funny because at the same time their speech is polluted with retarded anglicisms and aave/fagspeak because that's what they see on tiktok and tumblr. so much for saving traditions
No. 2586451
>>2586269another latinonna here: most TIMs here are HSTS transvestites who people just treat like effeminate gay men. they love pop music like Lady Gaga and Anitta and fashion and are usually hairdressers like the other nonna said. TIFs are way rarer but more common in my fairly artistic career field. most of them are harmless and not very milky, especially because I feel bad for them because the misogyny they face is basically the same if not worse than to women who don’t identify as genderspecial, especially because most TIFs are just lesbians, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a straight stereotypical fujo TIF here… ever.
I have met straight TIMs for the first time very recently. one of them was through my friend who met him on bumble (he still hadn’t come out as a TIM) and they became friends (my friend is a handmaiden btw) and suddenly started talking about wanting to be a woman and feeling like a lesbian. he was a programmer who never showered kek and all his room/computer setup was pink. the other transbians I have met were at college parties. all of them were under 24 years old and they basically copied everything about american culture and even their political points had nothing to do with our thirdie shithole, all they could talk about was Trump (this was around the election time iirc). obviously they love anime and hentai too and wear programmer socks and amazon skirts too
No. 2586502
my tif sister has the most vile vocabulary towards women. she calls pregnant women "female pigs" - there is word in my language for this, i don't know how to say it in english, but it's horrible word. she hates whenever any woman at work goes on maternity leave, she calls it "female pig holiday" - again, lost in translation. she goes to mens bathroom at work multiple times a day to feel gender euphoria, and my progressive job has special "all inclusive bathroom" designated for trans and disabled people. no, she won't go there because she is real man. in my last job there was no women's bathroom and i used disabled toilet and my sister joked all the time how being woman is disability. when i told her about this recently when i was telling her to actually start using trans bathroom and stop annoying men who just want to pee in peace - she took it as offence. like tims want to be creep in women bathrooms, she is the same, she goes there to have gender euphoria and experience brotherhood she isn't part of.
she has massive tits and doesn't like binding so now she is denial that she has them. once she got into panic mode because one of coworkers was transphobic towards her and she told me to never say that she is trans because he is going to beat her up. i told her she is delusional, she has visible breast and he may think she is really a man (must admit, if it wasn't for tits she can pass if you assume it's ugly short man) and no one has business of beating her. but she is too self centered and believes that coworker will do this. she also uses horrible derogatory terms to describe womens breat, she calls them "grandmas hangings" again, lost in translation.
she hates women, absolutely hates all of them. her wife is putting up with this because she has bpd and is also gender special. she believes she won't be able to live on her own and her tif wife is a husband who will protect her.
they are looking up now forward surgery to get double mastectomy and i am worst terf telling her to reconsider because complications happen and doctors don't really care about doing it properly to trans people because it's considered cosmethic schizo surgery, not life saving medical procedure of double mastectomy.
and i can only watch this delusion because telling her she will never be a man and doesn't have prostate is worst thing ever.
No. 2586720
>>2586269SEA nonna here, I hate them and wish they can all fuck off with their trust funds to America. Even as a sheltered thirdie I still got exposure to them, even if minimal. I think a lot of it has to do with me living in a highly urbanized area, but regardless, my country only recently began to be open about mento illness and gendie nonsense. I catch glimpses of troons here and there, and honestly a lot of them are just HSTS. The culture here is built more around tolerance and not acceptance, and the ones who are accepting are usually the ones with money. It’s interesting to see because you can tell that the troon demographic here is more likely to be a rich zoomie or millennial who feels entitled to oppression points and attention, because if you don’t have access to the retarded “open-minded” upper middle class education you don’t have time and resources to stew in identity crises brought about by mental illness. Or at least that’s my tinfoil, but anyway, I saw troon propaganda on the news weeks ago no thanks to pride month. My country initially only supported gays, but now they’re shifting their appreciation for trannies. I think a lot of it has to do with trying to follow the example of America. So yes, I would say they are/are on the road to being as insufferable as burger troons. I only feel sad for TIFs because I know they heard the same shit I did growing up, but instead of proudly embracing the tomboy lifestyle they became something they should not. They piss me off sometimes but I can’t blame them because again, people would rather tolerate a TIF than a tomboy here because at least they aren’t upsetting the misogynistic balance by following trad norms. Also to clarify, TIMs here are mostly just HSTS and fujoTIFs are alarmingly common. There was even news coverage of a TIF being proud of her mpreg dreams coming true. I think what latinonna
>>2586320 says also applies here, mostly just westernized mentally ill kids who are infected by west liberal standards.
No. 2586782
>>2586724Well I live in the Philippines so sadly it’s inevitable for us to fall
victim to America’s bs. I’ve observed that it’s less common for the other SEA countries to be woke in the “American” way unless there are other SEA nonnies who can debunk that for me. I know Thailand has the whole tranny operation thing but I suspect their gendie activism is on the same level as conservatard logic of sex changes negating homosexuality. Otherwise it’s par for the course we follow America because their politics and culture are entrenched into ours.
No. 2586804
>>2586729the word is maciora
also she also refers to having a baby as "laying the egg" i just remembered. she dehumanises women so much. and whenever i get emotional over something she blames it on me being irrational women. men at my work are more understanding when i am upset over something. she is the manliest man who ever manned so she must hate women. weirdly she doesn't like Andrew Tate, but it's probably because he is not liked in leftist spheres. she claims she cares about womens rights, but womens rights mean transwomen rights obviously. for some reason she believes tims get periods. she makes fun of women on their periods, but trans women on their impossible periods are amazing example of femininity.
also she tolerates detransitioners only if they blame themselves only and stay quiet about their experience. vile, absolutely vile.
No. 2586806
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>>2586486>>2586489This article is by Helen Lewis. She’s been publishing some lightly gender-crit adjacent stuff since 2017, as well as appearing on the Blocked and Reported podcast from time to time. I say “lightly” because last I heard she still believes TWAW and really just critiques the most universally unpopular points (men in women’s sports, giving children puberty blockers and so on), which most reasonable people would do anyway.
Related, picrel is a comment from r/asktransgender about this very article that I found pretty amusing. Literally admitting that the problem is not that she’s twansphobic, but just that she’s questioning things and not doing enough uncritical bootlicking, because presenting a middle ground “quickly radicalizes against trans people”. Hm, I wonder why that could be.
No. 2587115
>>2586804Pardon my intrusion but did she grew up with an
abusive mother? Or was bullied by girls/women in the past? Perhaps it's self-hatred for being SSA considering she has a wife.
A lot of TIFs still acknowledge being biologically female and are afraid of male-only spaces, so your sister is such an extreme case that it's mind boggling.
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>I'm not schizo I swear
No. 2587253
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I don't get it. I mean I do because troons have led a ten year march against radical feminism and painted it as conservatism for skinny evil white women but it amazes me how little anyone who hates radical feminism knows about it. Why would this piss a 'TERF' off? Even if you've drawn a TIM visually it's just a bulky woman. Thanks for the art I guess.
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>>2587253I mean, look at this. What lives are radfems endangering? I've never read a headline like "
TERF kills stunning trans woman with mean words on the internet and her desire to retain language that describes her"
No. 2587291
>>2586269Seconding this
>>2586451 it's mostly HSTS transvestites and they're pretty innoffensive for the most part (in troon terms at least). However… There's a lot of artsy leftist woke online and irl spaces where you can definitely find more flavors of 'kweer' and spicy straight males in the wild. I try to avoid those as much as possible.
No. 2587345
>>2587312 I don’t see anything wrong with les4les. I can see why one would be more comfortable dating another woman who has their same experience and way of living life. With the amount of fakebians and weird bi women who don’t even seem to like women I get why they would want peace from all that. It’s pretty retarded to have a meltdown over people not wanting to date you anyway, this goes for trannies too, no one owes you attraction or sex and it’s gross to think otherwise or try to guilt trip them.
I have never had any problems in real life anyway. I find that the bisexuals who get all defensive and aggressive about it are just insecure about themselves.
(derailing) No. 2587349
>>2587257Meanwhile trannies literally kill lesbians.
I have yet to see a
terf kill a TIM.
No. 2587479
>>2587349The fourth rule of misogyny: Women’s opinions are violence against men, thus male violence against women is justified.
>>2587430TRAs:
>TRANS RIGHTS TRANS VISIBILITY CENTER TRANS WOMEN IN YOUR FEMINISM IN YOUR LIFE IN YOUR SPORTS IN YOUR BEDNormal people:
>ok>wait no that was a mistake, let’s undo itTRAs:
>OH MY GOD WHY DO YOU CAAAAARE No. 2587529
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holy hell
No. 2587615
>>2586737i think this is just your conservative/xenophobic/traditional perspective, you want to reject progressive ideas because they are not from your country and thus you see them as irrelevant/inapplicable to you. it's a way for you to discredit progressive ideology. america's progressivism bleeds through to the rest of the world via niche communities like tumblr, because of america's imperialist and global influence; moreover, the majority of america's ideological exports are conservative because america is ideologically conservative. there are MAGAts in all countries, and the american-influenced gendies are the minority.
basically i'm saying, be careful not to nitpick this problem because anglophone culture is infecting foreign countries with much, much much more than just the liberal-progressive parts.
No. 2587616
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Its always so infuriating when they are close to getting it.
Yes, dysphoria is made up. It doesn't exist, it's all a big social hysteria. Now please use basic logic and understand that everything else is also madeup.
No. 2587630
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Spill the dirty blood of troon-sympathizers.
No. 2587640
>>2587622This is also the type of thing which highlights just how insane the pro-troon wave is. Gender dysphoria is the
only mental illness which is "cured" with affirmation. How the fuck does that figure?
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Interesting post from reddit
No. 2587717
>>2587705To their retarded minds you're just playing hard to get, babe
wink wink.
Also doesn't that "lesbian icons" (for the lack of a better word) are attention-whoring fakebians (Jojo Siwa, Billy Eyelash, Chapstick Roonie) or milky (Page trooned out and Ellen is
abusive), seeing these women fuel their magical cock fantasies more.
No. 2587750
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A corset mimicking a titchop. Now I've seen everything.
No. 2587762
>>2587750Not just that, but a corset meant to replicate the lines of a waistcoat with titchop scars. They even did pocket welts. This required some patterning and actual skill to stitch.
Reminds me of that awful faux-vintage illustration for corset “binders” that Pinterest keeps forcing on my feed
No. 2587772
>>2587716Yeah he’s one of the rare AGPs who’s gotten the chop. Somehow it still hasn’t netted him a cis lesbian girlfriend, but maybe the lesbian pride flag he tattooed on his arm just isn’t big enough for them to notice.
For his birthday should I get him a shirt that says “I cut my dick off and all I got was this lousy limp and an inability to sit or stand for long periods of time without crotch pain”?
No. 2587782
>>2587712I've never had the misfortune of working with a TIM, but god damn talk about male privilage. If a woman came into work smelling like she shit herself every day she would be fired immediately.
But because this insane retard paid 5-6 figures to get his colon sewed to his urethra it's considered filling a diversity quota.
How do you know it's his rot pocket and not just a TIMs propensity to not engage in basic hygiene practices like wiping? Does he brag about his shit-leaking neocolon?
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Gendies say shit like this and wonder why no one takes them seriously.
No. 2587918
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>>2587861Ironically this attitude is part of why they lost Skrmetti. Troons do not qualify as a suspect class (a legal term for a group that is oppressed for an immutable trait) because
by their own admission, gender can be fluid and a person does not need dysphoria to be trans. The ACLU tried to argue that the Tennessee bill was transphobic because it said that certain treatments cannot be used for gender dysphoria in minors. But it's easy to find activists affiliated with the ACLU who oppose transmedicalism, the belief that a person needs dysphoria to be trans and that affirmative medical treatments are the "cure" for dysphoria. The existence of desisters and detransitioners also demonstrates that not everybody with dysphoria is trans. TRAs spent years arguing against "truscum" and defending genderspecials, but now it finally came back to bite them in the ass. If they hadn't refused to gatekeep at literally every turn, maybe they wouldn't be in this situation.
No. 2587921
>>2586269Transphobia is literally a crime in my country, it's under the racism crime article, seriously. They equate it with racism (homophobia too has the same punishment as racism). You can't be bailed out if you commit the crime of racism (and homophobia and transphobia) so yeah. You can be bailed out if you commit murder for example
Most of them are HSTS so people still think they are mostly gay men in dresses, the most famous names also push that, so people tolerate them more, though there is a rise in conservativism from 2018 to now. The only ones that I see against them are the politicians from the right, but they are stupid and useless so I don't see anything changing tbh
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>>2587936Same vibe as picrel
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>>2587630You want a flag? Here's your stupid flag.
No. 2588288
>>2587253artfag here and i unfortunately have to share social spheres with this grand ol retard
artist loves drawing dudes and calling them “butch”, her following will gaze her for days, its pathetic and lovebox-y
troonshit ruined fandom
No. 2588689
>>2587430What retarded arguments kek. There are problems with abortion law and the tax code, so politicians aren't allowed to care about the destruction of women's sports? Literally the same logic as
>Why are you depressed, at least you're not a starving child in AfricaWomen fought hard for the right to have their own sports leagues. It's reasonable for a politician to care about that. Sure, Trump doesn't actually care, he's just looking to score political points, but the female athletes who called for him to do something were sincere in their advocacy.
William Thomas is not female and therefore cannot be the "best" at anything designated for women. He's a hulking ogre with obvious advantages from male puberty and should not have been allowed to compete in the first place. In fact, even males who
didn't go through male puberty don't belong, because male physiological advantage begins in utero. I wouldn't want NikkiTutorials (who I'm pretty sure was transed as a kid) to be on a women's sports team, either. Maybe they can console him by giving him a wooden medal that says "462nd" because that's what he actually is in the men's category.
No. 2588768
>>2588689It just pisses me off. Like it's crazy how much this movements own activism caused them to dig their own grave.
15 years ago, hell, even pre covid, your average john or jane doe didn't give a fuck what the troons were doing.
Then all of a sudden (maybe after gay marriage became legal), trans people were screaming for their "rights".
Right to do what?
They were getting their hormones, they were even getting trooned out as kids.
Sure, it would be harder for gendie groomed kids to get their horse piss since they didn't work and most parents didn't have to be scared that they would go to prison if they refused to sterilize their kid. But most people didn't care.
Then the troons started bitching, the fucking democrats bought into their stupid identity politics in such a way that it was basically a slap in the face for EVERYONE who wanted women and girls to be as independently safe from male predation as possible.
And it just pisses me off. There are so many god damn people I know who voted for Trump ONLY because of trans entitlement.
All these god awful economic policies that only benefit billionaires
All this legal regression in women's rights
All these government programs being shut down, ones that help pull people out of poverty and protect the environment, gone.
All because these god damn histrionic AGPs and their fujo handmaidens couldn't just keep their fucking mouths shut and make their own special tranny bathrooms and sports teams.
For fucks sake.
If a democrat doesn't get some balls soon and just be like "yeah we will make tranny toilets and sports teams shut the fuck up you miserable perverts" America is going to enter a dark age the likes of which this country has never seen.
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>>2588288>artist loves drawing dudes and calling them “butch”jesus you weren't kidding lol
No. 2588805
>>2588192The “protect the dolls” slogan is 100% calculated damage control to redirect the public’s attention away from hulking transbians and back to effeminate gay TIMs. They must have realised that more and more people are waking up to the fact that most TIMs are sex-obsessed straight men. Even self-identified allies in my life are starting to notice. Just yesterday the most BeKind Normie McStraightman I know confided in me unprompted that all the TIMs he knows are coomers who want to emulate what they see in porn rather than wanting to become regular women. He was especially disturbed by the fact that even the elderly ones want to be sexy teenagers instead of elderly women. He said that he doesn’t blame women for not wanting to share dressing rooms with men like this.
TRAs know they only got as far as they did because most people thought TIMs were the final evolution of the harmless sassy gay bff, and they desperately want that ignorance back. But I don’t think that the ‘doll’ stuff is going to help them, because it only emphasises that fact that they want to be (sex) objects and not female versions of themselves. Peaked people don’t unpeak. All that’s going to happen is they’ll notice that the HSTS also see women as sex objects.
No. 2588850
>>2588696Most sports don't even have a "men's division". There's generally a women's division, and an open division anyone
can enter, but no woman in her right mind will try because the outcome is obvious.
No. 2588901
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straight woman obsessed with gay men wants to become HIV positive
No. 2589046
>>2586269i'm from a well off country in latam and trannies here are mostly HSTS on average, but nowadays you can easily spot TIMs and TIFs with that weird narcissistic autosexuality on the youth. it's a risky move here since the culture is still sexist as fuck and "wanting" to be a "woman" means losing all of your moid privilege, reputation and earning FAGGOT status forever. most of the time women get bored handmaiding an AGP tranny so they are also left alone or treated like mascots, because they are fucking boring and have subpar make up/fashion skills unlike the tryhard HSTS. also most of the time people are unaware of TIFs existence and they mostly pass.
the country overall it's pretty transphobic if you ask me, trannies can get all the hormones and surgeries they want but employers will always reject them and it ostracizes them from the normies. older lesbians and gays are transphobic as fuck since they're still endangered, so being a tranny is not common because it doesn't have many social benefits. you can spot a lot of them at illustration events though, yuck.
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Kek
No. 2589551
>>2589470I think this is only online. I don't know many actual non-white people who are into this irl. Could be the difference between UK and US though - our police force is completely taken over, but everywhere else thinks it's bullshit.
>>2589479Helen Joyce (one of Rowling's friends) has said it won't die out for our generation because parents won't be able to face what they've done to their kids and I think that's true.
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These are the TIFs that annoy me the most. They purposefully isolate themselves from women because of their internalized misogyny but still feel entitled to women's spaces and companionship. It's transphobic when "female only" includes TIFs and it's transphobic when it excludes them. They are the exact kind of people that get angry when they don't get an invitation to a party they didn't even want to go to because they wanted the satisfaction of rejecting the other person. Maybe this stems from them being rejected by other girls growing up so TIFs want their inclusion or exclusion to always be on their own terms.
>>2590051 I found picrel in the transandrophobia tag. Them refusing to make the final jump to the obvious conclusion is so frustrating, but understandable. Peaking means a loss of identity and social circle.
No. 2590227
>>2589470I get fucking whiplash depending on where on the internet I am. Reddit is the most captured platform, I go on there and despair because not even a single modicum of dissent is acceptable (apart from a few male dominated conservative subs), and female oriented subs I'd otherwise enjoy are absolutely vicious in their support of troons. Twitter and tumblr depend entirely on who you follow. And then there's normie websites like facebook or news articles, which I find predominately oppose troons. Celebrities have obviously been put into a position of either saying nothing, or supporting trannies for massive amounts of validation and praise. IRL, I don't know anyone who reaaally cares. A couple of times friends have made half hearted comments in support at worst, lots of people think it's weird, but at the same time nobody knows how bad it is so I don't know any outraged terfs either.
I think trannies are inevitably going to be legislated out of their position, there's no way it can keep going the way it has in any legal sense. And maybe wider support will die down but the sunk cost fallacy is going to prevent parents, hardcore SJWs and troons themselves from ever letting it go.
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Was looking through reddit nsfw audio moids profiles for good shit and nope'd out promptly after seeing this. How the fuck are you going to put this in a gay porn subreddit KEKK I feel so bad for gay people having to be subjected to this shit. Muh straight man's queer awakening from getting pussy
No. 2590358
>>2590192These annoy me, too. They join explicitly female-only groups and then cry oppression when the group plays by their rules and treats them as male, but if the group makes an ‘exception’ for them and treats them like the females they are they get mad, too. The only acceptable option is for the group to declare itself open to ‘males’, in which case they can no longer keep out actual males, which in turn endangers the female group members who probably joined a female-only group for a reason. TIFs like this act like Trojan Horses for predatory men.
Plus, that message from the Girl Scouts group doesn’t mention anything about safety. It only refers to sensitive conversations and inappropriate subject matter. The group is probably just trying to cover its own ass (how do you explain why
Keighlynn Kai, who is totally for reals a boy now, still sleeps and showers with the girls without committing a heckin’ transphobia?) and if they have any sense they’ve probably noticed that transidentification is extremely contagious among adolescent girls and don’t want the responsibility of spreading it to the rest of the kids. Imagine being a parent sending your daughter off to a Girl Scouts summer camp and she comes back thinking she’s a boy and demanding puberty blockers. I’d be pissed.
No. 2590529
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some questions for rfs/rf-leaning types itt.
>do you ever think you're wrong in your gc views?
>do you ever feel like you've constructed an incorrect view of the world in the way /pol/fags do, e.g. relying on biased statistics and cherry-picked articles?
>do you ever regret peaking?
>have you managed to peak anybody?
>do you support trannies at ALL?
No. 2590710
idk where else to post this, but there's been a big influx of tiktok / instagram thot types into radblr who think that radfeminism is their chance to be mean and not like an actual set of political beliefs. I'd be willing to be they were conservative-adjacent until the meltdown happened and now they're pivoting. They're shitting up everything.
>>2590638they're also AGP, so they resent being attracted to other gay men and would rather masturbate to the idea of being desired by the straight men they actually want. The surgeries enable the fantasies, even if they never become a reality. You don't need to feel sorry for them.
No. 2590721
>>2590529>do you ever think you're wrong in your gc views?No. Women deserve privacy and spaces free from men and, much as I'm loathe to defend men, men deserve privacy from women in those same circumstances. If believing that is wrong, then I don't want to be right.
>do you ever feel like you've constructed an incorrect view of the world in the way /pol/fags do, e.g. relying on biased statistics and cherry-picked articles? If there wasn't a problem in the first place, there would be no articles to cherry pick. But the thing that TRAs claim never happens… keeps happening. They rarely call out their own, so it's much more difficult to get a trans perspective on trans wrongdoings.
>do you ever regret peaking? Only because it's lonelier. Most of my old male friends trooned out and I can't stomach being around them anymore. Many new women I meet are some flavor of genderspecial and it's alienating. Nerd spaces are difficult to navigate because everyone is either TRA or crypto.
>have you managed to peak anybody? Yes, one. Maybe others, but I don't know about it.
>do you support trannies at ALL?I support gender nonconformity in all individuals and think things like hobbies, clothes, and personality expression should not be discouraged on the basis of sex. I don't support medical intervention for gender dysphoria, I don't support enforced pronoun usage, and I don't think segregated spaces and laws should be based on anything but biological sex.
No. 2590953
>>2587702hes so real for this. im similar, im somewhat gnc and when i cut my hair a couple years ago (got a buzz, every girl should have one at least once) i had so many mother fuckers trying to groom me to be trans and calling me they/them or he. it really messed with my mental health for a while and i almost thought i was trans thank God i came back to my senses. these lgb(T) people want everyone to be as miserable and as boxed as them to hide that they lack freedom and creativity
>>2587712my uni project classmates roommate was trans. i went over to her 1 brd apt like 2x to study. they both gave me a tour and he pointed out his side of the room, where he would dialte and leave his dialters lined up at the end of his bed (they shared a room). He clamed he did that to dry them and he explained what they are but i never went back into their room, i stayed in the living toom. this is going to sound really gross ||But he smelled like piercing or toe cheese, moist dead skin, i can only assume from where|| for refrence he did not pass at all (he looked like a cave man and acted like a 12 year old fortnite player, was failing all his classes) but i was still in my handmade phase so i was supportive even if it felt violating and uncomfortable when he would talk to me (sad times, idk about her, i never talked to her after the project). it was when he just got the surgey from quebec and he could bearly walk more than 20 steps with out shriveling in pain, he'd buy like hella super soaker pads and talk about his period (bleeding from an open wound) and he wanted me to look at it to see if it looked real, i assuemd he was joking but i dont think he was.
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No. 2591196
>>2590638>could have been a regular gay manYes and no. HSTS are self hating gays for sure, but they are also misogynists who desperately want to be in a relationship with the chad who beat him up in middle school. He tries to do this by turning on all the women who befriended him by skinwalking them.
In some ways, HSTS are just as bad as the AGPs. They were the ones who opened the gateway to troon sympathy. The AGPs are too disgusting and predatory to garner support on their own.HSTS started all this shit by being the "just one moid" you allow in the women's bathroom. Because of HSTS society dictates you have to allow ALL the moids in.
The 'harmless' HSTS is the poster child of all this bullshit.
Normie faggots have no interest in being in women's spaces. They know the scrotes bathroom is the mecca for middle aged closeted scrotes go to have anonymous and shameful gay sex. Most fagmoids covet 'straight' moids because in their eyes, a straight moid is a universal top, and the bulk of gay moids are bottoms.
Idk I'm not GBT I only support L.
Men should live in the underground gulags with rationed air and be prison gay with one another. Only attractive men will have value living in high security brothels brothels to serve Tammy Hull
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No. 2591200
>>2591196i really love the insane anons here. don't agree with any of this but it's entertaining to read and has that tiny grain of truth as always. much love
nonnie xxx
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>>2591198i need to start keeping tally of the amount of times i click on a troon's blog and quickly find him seething at trans men for being aware of their sex and/or sex-based oppression in general. it sure does happen a lot!
No. 2591285
>>2590529>do you ever think you're wrong in your gc views?Never. I know right from wrong and won't be shamed into lying about it.
>do you ever feel like you've constructed an incorrect view of the world in the way /pol/fags do, e.g. relying on biased statistics and cherry-picked articles? I do fear that because of the way I talk, if I was to start going off about my views at a normie or gendie, I'd be the one that sounds like I'm in a cult instead of the gendies, I'm an annoying contrarian in that sense. Even though I'm not saying anything that's not true or just recounting my own experiences.
>do you ever regret peaking? I never even really peaked in the first place, I was just vindicated.
>have you managed to peak anybody? Sadly not yet. This is also why I feel the way I do about point #2. I do have one theyfab online friend I'd love to peak but I haven't been able to make any real inroads. She seems close to getting it, I have a feeling that if she was honest with me she'd say she's fed up with it. (copium.)
>do you support trannies at ALL?I support tifs and other gendie women getting the real help they need to accept themselves. Meanwhile, line up every single tim up against a wall and have women kill them by firing squad for all the regressions to our rights and safety we've had to put up with because of them.
No. 2591352
>>2590529>>do you ever think you're wrong in your gc views?At this point, hell no. I have spent the better half of a decade looking into this stuff after getting fed up with these TIMs invading women only spaces and he prison issue was my last straw. I've looked at so many sources and I've come to the point that we GC are the ones with reality on our side. We're not the ones denying science and biology. We're not the ones assaulting people. And the fact that so many of these troons are afraid to debate against actual women who say no to their bullshit says all you need to know about their misogynistic and homophobic ass ideology.
>>do you ever feel like you've constructed an incorrect view of the world in the way /pol/fags do, e.g. relying on biased statistics and cherry-picked articles? Again not really. I've been accused of cherry-picking plenty of times but that's because mainstream media refuses to talk about these cases and do so in the utmost truthful way. We had no choice but to compile every story we could to make a point of this actually happening when so many TRAs and their blind supports say it doesn't.
>>do you ever regret peaking? Sometimes. I miss having my friends and having a social life on the internet but I've been GC for a long time and I've gotten used to how my life is now to where I don't find myself regretting my decision because I just cannot go back to pretending that this stuff is right and progressive when it's anything but.
>>have you managed to peak anybody? I've managed to somewhat peak my sister. She still has that whole "be kind" mantra and that all this is "just my opinion" (It's fact but still) and she knows that my stance is not based out of hate. I platned the seeds back in 23023 and she's slowly been peaking a little more as the years go on.
>>do you support trannies at ALL?Depends what you mean by "support". I don't help theese people further delude themselves by calling themselves the wrong pronoun though personally I avoid getting close to anyone who thinks they are TQ+++ in general so it makes that pretty easy. I had a friend who dropped me who is an enby and I feel bad for her because she did have a rough childhood that I know played a part in her identity issues. So I feel sorry for people who are genuinely confused about themselves.
No. 2591469
>>2591366i would tell them i
am kind to trans people, i dont want to see any of them harmed or become life-long medical patients. what would be
unkind is playing into the delusions that a person can change sex and that there is something wrong with their natural bodies.
No. 2591507
>>2591430>Transracialism analogyHey that's actually a good point anon, now I'm mad I didn't think of that sooner. Because even if they try to say that "it's not the same thing", it really is because both ideologies are denying biological reality at the end of the day and the opposer would have to admit that superficial stereotypes do define one's sex which is bullshit because there are gender nonconforming people who prove this is wrong and that gender stereotypes are not some predetermined innate thing.
>>2591456Good point.
>>2591469Yeah I did try that with someone I was arguing against. Truthfully I don't want people to harm themselves all for some unobtainable goal but the person said that I shouldn't care because it's not my body. Pretty much the whole "focus on yourself" argument. The person didn't seem to understand that you can care for someone's well-being and especially their health because they seemed to have a very individualistic look on things.
>>2591474True but honestly, I feel like some of these people actually want these stereotypes to define people. I tried explaining that to a TRA supporter who tried to use Blaire White as a justification to allow him special grace and when I told him that it doesn't matter what he looks like and that he's still a man in makeup, he said I should "respect" his effort to commit to "Being a woman" (bleh).
No. 2591936
>>2591507>Blaire WhiteAll I can think of is Kai Decadences video roasting him. Mr. White isn't 'one of the good ones'. He's a delusional self hating gay man who keeps trying to kiss the ass of his homophobic conservatard family by trying to be 'normal' (jokes on him, his conservatard family hates him even more for being a troon.)
Also fuck Robbie White. That nasty little shit is throwing women under the bus with his antifeminist shit. He can't shit with us and tbh he doesn't even pass as a botched turbo pickme.
No. 2592066
>>2590529>do you ever think you're wrong in your gc views?No. Longer answer, my views have changed slightly about 'gender' itself as a concept over time, the extent to which gender can be abolished or the extent to which male behaviors are nature vs. nurture etc. But when it comes to gender ideology, I have always known it was wrong and repressive since I was a little kid and I continue to know that now.
>do you ever feel like you've constructed an incorrect view of the world in the way /pol/fags do, e.g. relying on biased statistics and cherry-picked articles? No, we've had hundreds of years of human beings understanding the biology of sex to rely on. I'm always open to changing my mind on various things that are more nuanced, but there really isn't much nuance to the question of what biological sex is in mammals and understanding biological sex does not require articles or statistics.
>do you ever regret peaking? No, and I was always 'peaked' to some extent since gender ideology never made sense to me in the first place no matter how hard I tried to make sense of it.
>have you managed to peak anybody? Yes, almost everyone I know has peaked.
>do you support trannies at ALL?Depends what you mean by 'support.' I don't want people to be harmed just for being GNC and I think troons have the same human rights everyone else has. I did not give up on some of my trans-identified friends just because they were trans because I still liked them as people. Do I support them 'as troons'? No. I don't support transition or trans ideology and I don't think they should have 'special' rights to override sex distinctions and sex protections in law.
No. 2592075
>>2592025ntayrt but the worst part about gendie women is they are fucking tankies who are about as tolerant to political nuance as your average trumptard. Like how the fuck can you be friends with someone like that when you can't even be your own god damn person around them. They don't want a friend, they want a clone who blindly agrees with them on everything (everything includes prioritizing skinwalking moids who colonize women's oppression).
The worst part is these types always infest every single god damn fandom on earth. I just want to enjoy my retarded franchise. God damn.
No. 2592077
>>2590529>do you ever think you're wrong in your gc views?No.
>do you ever feel like you've constructed an incorrect view of the world in the way /pol/fags do, e.g. relying on biased statistics and cherry-picked articles? No.
>do you ever regret peaking? A little bit but only because it's been much lonelier as an artfag.
>have you managed to peak anybody? Nobody except my nigel and my family know about me having GC views.
>do you support trannies at ALL?I mask and will just treat them like any other person while doing the bare minimum to get along (i.e. pronoun crap). It is inevitable in my hobby circles that I run into trans-identifying individuals. TIFs can be okay if I keep a distance. I will actively avoid TIMs though since they are unpleasant to be around.
No. 2592114
>>2592097Being totally alone yes, but almost everyone I know who is 'crypto' with some people has plenty of normal friends they would still be friends with, they just can't bear to let go of these (often online) friends who treat their actual views as fascist, nazi-tier villainy and you know they would send you to a camp if they got the chance. I think playacting friendship with a person like that is just psychologically damaging long-term. I have always been a social butterfly and I used to think the more people I had as friends the better but I actually felt so freed and so much less lonely after I stopped having fake friendships with people like that and focused on building/strengthening bonds with people who actually make an effort to understand me and don't assume the worst of me over disagreements. I understand being crypto around coworkers or people in hobby groups but not getting close to them, I don't really get it in friendships anymore maybe because I used to try to be crypto in friendships when I was younger too and in the end those same friends I hid my views around ended up acting fickle and rejecting/betraying me for unrelated stupid shit in the end anyway while my friends I felt I could be honest with have never abandoned me. Even as an ultra-extrovert I'd rather nurture fewer better friendships with people I can trust and I wish I had taken that dive earlier.
>>2592104Yeah and this type of black-and-white thinking is indicative of mental illness/cluster B PDs, the type of people who actually think this way make notoriously bad long-term friends. They tend to be at best users and at worst horribly manipulative and deranged. It's partially been created by increasingly polarized partisan politics so I don't entirely blame people for being black and white in their political thinking but when it's so extreme I just assume it's impossible to normally interact with that person outside of the most basic cordial acquaintance interactions, and even then…
No. 2592141
>>2592075When I had the gall to believe people like me could be found in fandom I had this girl (they/them) try to convince me that not being interested in a straight ship it was
terf rhetoric because I just didn't see them as trans enough. Never mind that said ship was very unpopular specifically bc this character appeals to lesbians/bi women which account for like 90% of her fans. It mirrors all the postmodernism words mean nothing shit being mostly used to shut people up. I like it so its queer, you don't so youre a
terf. It's just a convenient bludgeon when whats "queer" is totally meaningless now.
No. 2592168
>>2592157AYRT and same, I'm not just being randomly judgmental because tbf I lived several years being sort of crypto too when I was a lot younger, although I hadn't totally peaked back then but I didn't buy into a lot of gender ideology and tried to act quiet about it to maintain friendships. I work in one art community and do a second type of art as a heavy hobby so I understand the desire to be accepted in art communities. But I say this because I stopped being crypto and it is just so much better in every way, yes even when it comes to the art community - I think people who are so politically partisan and conformist and always do and think and say the politically correct thing also suck as artists even if they are technically good, and talking to them all the time made me feel bitter and cynical about my art. Now that I only hang out with people I can really talk to I also feel more free really expressing myself through my art. I actually don't feel lonelier at all, I feel less lonely even if I have fewer social connections, but I've grown close to tons of people after I became a bit of a social outcast for my views who I can have real conversations with and who are truly supportive and willing to help out because they know what it's like to be outcasted too. At the end of the day I think you really gain nothing from surrounding yourself with "friends" who would actually hate you if they knew your real thoughts, it makes you constantly on edge, you feel guilty for being a hypocrite, and you feel like you can't open up to anyone and have a real relationship. It's so exhausting.
I know this isn't a popular take on lolcow but I actually think this is why some people tend to "switch" to being more conservative after a while. Personally I still have mostly leftist/liberal friends but who are not conventional leftists, however I understand why some people after getting cancelled choose to hang out with conservatives because they seem more accepting of people having distinct views and personalities. At this point I would rather give someone a chance that has some opinions I strongly disagree with but who is able to at least have a respectful conversation with me than someone who dehumanizes you the second they find out you don't agree with them on 100% of their tumblr/twitter-derived opinions. It's so exhausting. I've also moved away from friendships that revolve around discussing politics in general, I am very politically minded so it obviously comes up but I make a conscious choice to be friends with people who can separate their identity from politics somewhat.
No. 2592191
>>2592182Yeah at an anime convention, probably. This is my hot take as a non-autist outgoing person that you can probably take with a grain of salt but most of my best friendships have not actually required having most of the same interests/hobbies, and I think social life often works better when most of your friends are friends for reasons other than that. A good friend will still indulge you if you talk about your hobbies they don't care about, and you can still casually participate in hobby communities and have acquaintances in them but without trying to find good friendships there. Hobbies used to be a more individual thing for the most part and I'm not sure why they started to be viewed as the main basis for friendships but I think it's kind of unnecessary. I get most of my social support and "deep" conversations from friends I mostly don't share hobbies with, and then I have acquaintances who share hobbies with me that I'm not very good friends with, and it works fine. I also have gotten some of my friends into my hobbies to enough of a degree they know what I'm talking about somewhat when I go off about it or are willing to come to an event with me they're not super interested in and vice versa. But the most important thing in a friend is someone who you can have a real conversation with, someone who shares a lot of your values and who likes your personality (and whose personality you like), and who is actually interesting enough to act like an individual with their own views and opinions. I managed to peak all of the friends I had like that, and basically none of the other ones. I now prioritize people I feel like I can really talk to when it comes to putting effort into friendships, and I treat hobby friends as just that - people to do a hobby together with, not to pour extra energy into.
No. 2592209
>>2592191Nah, that's fair. I guess I just like having things in common with friends because I do tend to hype-fixate on things that really interest me and I think it's fun when you have someone who is interested in the topic as well that you can geek out with. I'm a younger millennials and I grew up in the internet age where it was less divisive when it came to the art and fandom spaces, it's like night and day seeing how those communities were back in the 2000s vs now and I think that's why it's been hard for me to branch out irl save for when I used to go to conventions up until about Covid.
I do get on well with my coworkers at my job so that has definitely helped me relax and not have to worry about walking on eggshells. Though that did remind me of this one incident where a TIM was in our facility's women's restroom and an older woman made a complaint saying that the guy was filming himself in there while twerking and how my manager wanted to kick him and he had left by the time my manager went to go address the situation (not sure if she was gonna kick him out) and my coworker said the woman was being a "Karen" and that did make me wince a bit, won't lie and I just said nothing. But thankfully incidents like that aren't too common.
No. 2592215
>>2592209As a younger millennial I understand and share your pain because I was in a lot of online hobby communities when I was younger where I made real friendships and where there was relatively a lot of diversity of thought, but those days are over and even years ago I had to quit those communities because they became more and more obsessed with rightthink and censorship over time. I also understand wanting to share hobbies with friends but I just see it as secondary now, I take it as a win if I make a good friend with similar hobbies as me but having the same hobbies and having the same interests, for me, isn't even the same thing exactly. Me and most of my close friends are interested in a lot of the same things, meaning we take interest in the same topics of conversation or have shared knowledge in certain domains, but that doesn't mean we do the exact same hobbies for fun. Especially when it comes to media-related hobbies, I don't think it's that important for my real friends to like the same media I do, as if I'm interested in discussion about media I can always just read about it or discuss it online with strangers and it works just as well. I don't need my friend to like the same TV show or band as me because that's stuff I can easily consume by myself in my own spare time, or talk to random strangers about online without establishing a personal relationship. I do care more about having friends who somewhat share my active/creative hobbies, but they still don't have to be my best friends.
>a TIM was in our facility's women's restroom and an older woman made a complaint saying that the guy was filming himself in there while twerking WTF. TIMs are so unhinged kek
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No. 2592386
>>2590529>do you ever think you're wrong in your gc views?no. the biggest philosophy i believe in is that men need to sit the fuck down.
>do you ever feel like you've constructed an incorrect view of the world in the way /pol/fags do, e.g. relying on biased statistics and cherry-picked articles? i feel worried i've done that since lcf is the reason i peaked but i dunno.
>do you ever regret peaking? yeah. i know i'm damn well better off because i was cowish as fuck prior to peaking but i wish i was better at being crypto at the very least.
>have you managed to peak anybody? no. i don't have the courage.
>do you support trannies at ALL?no but i feel bad for a lot of tifs. being someone who trooned out because i felt insecure during puberty, i understand why they'd wanna feel a sense of false safety in gender ideology and go as far as to destroy the parts of their body that scrotes have sexualized to hell and back. the tims i've met have been huge pussies when it comes to their "struggles" so i don't sympathize with them.
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No. 2592419
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Came across this braindead comment in a comment thread where an MTF was complaining that women become visibly more comfortable when they find out he no longer has a penis, which hurts his feelings.
>There is no power structure that enables penis havers to rape vagina havers. Just a power structure where men rape women, completely unrelated!
No. 2592671
>>2592659>another smash fankek this is really cute, worth sperging.
>trans headcanon bullshitYou know I don't really care when transwomen adopt feminine habits in a territorial sense but when they trans headcanon female characters it annoys me so much. Fuck off she's ours… they don't even appreciate female characters in general and then go so far as to try and desecrate what little belongs to us to begin with. I'll also never understand how they want it both ways – like replacing female characters with trans ones – they don't really want to be female but this special exceptional male category with a skirt. Like a kwisatz haderach but it fucking sucks.
No. 2592758
>>2592744they're so retarded "look this mentally delayed man who can only drool and be pushed around in a wheelchair can't realistically harm women since he's weaker than them! So since some men are weaker than women that means transwomen are also safe around women!" no logic whatsoever
Also vouyerism aka just looking at someone IS a sexual crime. Which any man with eyes can do.
No. 2592881
>>2591366I am kind to TIFs and TIMs. I don't call them derogatory names to their faces or behind their backs, I give them the same decency and loving-kindness that I give anyone else, and I feel genuinely bad for them that they aren't comfortable enough in their own bodies and identities that they feel the need to obfuscate their sex.
But I am also kind to women and men who aren't trans. It's not fair for either sex to have to entertain the opposite sex in their single-sex spaces, sports teams, and wo/men's social groups. Is it unkind to insist that those spaces should be segregated by sex? It's not fair for individuals to have to play guessing games regarding someone's pronouns. Is it unkind to believe that they should be forgiven for saying the "wrong" thing? It's not fair for gay people be forced to accept the opposite sex in their dating pool, straight people be forced to accept the same sex, and bisexual people be forced to accept trans people of either sex. Is it unkind to believe that people should have freedom to choose their partners without pressure from a jilted group?
The issue is not that we're unkind to trans people, it's that TRAs expect us to be kind to trans people at the expense of everyone else. Sometimes you can't treat everyone the way they want to be treated because the way they want to be treated is unfair or unkind to others.
No. 2592889
>>2591366i am polite to everyone , is not a habit of mine to engage in confrontation with every lunatic i come across. But i have my opinions and will not remain quiet when it matters.
I think trans people are so delluded or so autistic that they mistake civility and politeness from the people around them as a validation to their choices and their ideologies, and they take that to mean that they can push things even further until people actually are forced to become antagonistic to retain their dignity in front of a crazy fetishistic sperg that wants to rope you into their fetish.
If i am not being cornered into that spot i am just going to be as neutral as possible and avoid the issue, i don't start any conflicts myself.
No. 2593221
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>read Myths of Gender by Anne Fausto-Sterling because it made trannies seethe and call it TERF propaganda
>book was actually good and called out logical fallacies used by researchers trying to claim that brain sex is real and causes differences in cognition between men and women (i.e. arguing that women are worse at math because muh biology)
>check her bluesky
>shes posting this literal bird brained bullshit now and making the same mistakes she called out in her book
How the hell does this happen?
No. 2593315
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It took a radblr post to explain to me why I have always been unsettled by TIMs doing this shit. Huh.
No. 2593737
>>2593315>If not I’ll leave!They’re lying when they say this and everyone knows it, which is an important part of this dynamic. If even one woman expresses the opinion that TIMs are not welcome or questions his motives (e.g. “Why would someone who’s never been pregnant join a postpartum depression group?”) the TIM freaks out, his handmaidens freak out, he’ll rally his flying monkeys to brigade the group and there’s a good chance the dissenter will get banned. Even if the users and mods of the group aren’t yet aware of TIMs’ exact tactics, every woman is subconsciously aware of the male uwu injured fawn routine and the consequences of saying no. It’s something that starts in kindergarten. Also note that the same thing doesn’t work in reverse; when TIFs do the “am I welcome uwu” thing in groups for (gay) men they’re simply told no.
>>2593534What was that country that tried to have a Trans Day of Remembrance but zero TIP had died in the previous year(s)? Shit like this makes me miss satirical absurdist sketch shows like Monty Python and Spitting Image. It would be like shooting fish in a barrel for them. It’s a shame SNL doesn’t have the nerve.
>[John Cleese walks onto a podium dressed in mourning attire, looking extremely solemn]>”Welcome, everyone. We’re gathered here to remember the stunning and brave trans souls who tragically died of transphobia. I shall now commence the reading of the names.”>[unfurls blank piece of paper]>…>[extremely long awkward silence]>…>”That is all. Thank you for coming.”>[audience breaks out in tears] No. 2594334
>>2593872I remember her saying she was a cis man for a while kek even though she had tons of videos about her transition
and we have eyes. The self hatred is off the charts.
No. 2594670
so funny to see people in the comments wonder why a “lesbian” troon would convert to islam. hint: it’s all a fetish for these bored white men.
No. 2594762
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Bring back asylums
No. 2594781
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>>2594762Trans is an eugenic culling cult targeted at autistic people.
They've already convinced them to castrate and not reproduce, pushing them to suicide is the natural endgoal.would almost sound based if this propaganda wasn't blasted at 10 year olds.
No. 2594847
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what the fuck are they talking about
No. 2594984
>>2594670She’s implying that these troons were sociopathic perverts all along but can’t say it explicitly because of tiktards
>>2594847>tif>chooses shitty male name>luigi pfp with a bow shopped on>projects herself onto GNC female celebrity Literally made in a factory
No. 2595288
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lol
No. 2595518
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I'm just trying to look at clothes why do I have to be exposed to TRA propaganda?
No. 2595548
>>2595518Means you know not to buy from them! Send them an annoyed email to let them know they're losing sales too.
>>2594781>Trans is an eugenic culling cult targeted at autistic people.Not just autists, anyone else who is unwanted too. Reminds me of that native american guy from canada who detransed and cried when he realized he let them willingly castrate him and that he himself basically had continued the genocide on his people. Native kids are disproportionately trans there too, so they really are being targeted and castrated from an early age.
No. 2595665
>>2595632Transwoman: lesbians are bigoted if they don’t date other transwomen, if you love a woman then you don’t care about what’s between her legs. Me? It’s obvious I wouldn’t date another trann…transwoman ehm..it just
triggers my dysphoria you know? I need a cis one. Genitalia preference is
valid if you express it in a polite way that doesn’t dismiss me aka you still have to coddle me
Lesbian having a normal day: okay, I respect you , but I still like female genitalia and that’s my only choice.
Transwoman: wait no…REEE, why don’t you want me stupid bitch?! It wasn’t supposed to go this way!!! Genitalia preference is actually imbedded with transphobia, it’s transphobic and genocide to not suck girldick REEE.
No. 2596124
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CAN TIMS STOP USING MY NAME PLEASE PLEASEEEEEEEE
No. 2596130
>>2595865>>2595870Not to mention highly ornate fabrics with embroidery, beading, lace, etc. Rich men used to have pissing contests about who had the most intricately embroidered doublet, or the shiniest cloth-of-gold cape. It was a sign of wealth and power to be decked out like a peacock. The most masculine manly man had the fanciest puffy hat and pointiest shoes because being able to afford a fancy puffy hat and pointy shoes was a sign of a successful man.
But now being decorative is associated with women so any man who wears anything fancier than a plain black suit or jeans and a t-shirt with the word ‘petrol’ printed on it is thought of as womanish or gay. Wtf happened?
>>2596124I’m so sorry Lily/Alice/Luna/Emily, you don’t deserve this!
No. 2596150
>>2596130The fashion thing reminds me of higher education. Back then high education was a boys' club because of something something women don't need it anyway 'cause they'll pop put babies for future babies.
But now that high ed is integrated and women are outperforming their male counterparts—suddenly colleges are deemed as feminine. Have you seen the way some scrotes say that sitting on your ass for hours to listen to a lecture is somehow "feminine"? Even though their great-great-great+ grandpas were doing the exact same thing with no complaint?
No. 2596188
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>>2596124Me too
nonny, me too…
No. 2596330
>>2596157Nta but kekkk if I had two friends like that I'd be like "Awww awesome!! Now we have
trans Sophie and
cis Sophie!" Just to subtly remind him YWNBAW.
No. 2596335
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>>2596311It’s retarded when people try to argue that there is no difference between a male and female t shirt, and that any difference is because of needless enforcement of gender norms or whatever.
Male and female clothes are different because our bodies are different. Forcing a man into a women’s bloc is going to look like shit because it wasn’t drafted for his body type, no matter how “gender neutral” it’s branded.
No. 2596374
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Being a shapeshifting spirit doesn’t make him nOn-BiNaRy, you fucking idiot; it makes him sexless. “Non-binary” and “genderfluid” are still human gender norms. This plus the “AI Overview” makes me want out of this world
No. 2596497
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A heartwarming story that definitely happened
No. 2596499
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Why is magical thinking so prevalent among this group, I wonder.
No. 2596724
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>>2596374…ok, that's annoying. I wish the AI was sentient so I could get revenge on it.
No. 2597100
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Spot on description. They literally think like this
No. 2597191
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Speaking of Ethel Cain, I was surprised to see the comments at Fauxmoi were generally not having his long whiny apology statement. The consensus was that it spent more time whining about he is the victim of a smear campaign than meaningfully addressing his racist statements. Also some discussion of how unhinged his fan subreddit is, apparently they were trying to claim it was all lies/not his account until he actually confirmed it was him with the post. I haven’t really visited his thread here, is Lolcow the “transphobic image board” referenced in picrel that is responsible for this?
I read (well, eventually skimmed, it was so fucking long) his statement and once I got to the “transphobes are out to get me” section I rolled my eyes and figured they’d all fall for it in the comment section. I was pleasantly surprised to see that was not the case.
No. 2597248
>>2597191Goddd this makes me want to alog so bad.
>to prove she's secretly a cis man fetishizing the female experience.He's still biologically a male, wether "cis" or "trans". If we dug up proof of his behaviour not aligning with his "experiences" (read fetish) they wouldn't consider it AT ALL because we have terminal wrongthink, they need to hear it from one of them but of course that will never happen because anyone who drank the koolaid becomes an ebil detrans terv to them. Why does it matter where it came from, when you have been handed proof (your own words) of his degeneracy. OP of that comment literally uses the term female experience in their own words too, the answer is right in front of these people's faces but they are so afraid of potential wrongthink that they won't even let their brains ponder on it. That comment is such a good example of what the ideology does to feable minded people, can't think critically to save themselves.
No. 2597263
>>2597108What gets me is that people seem to have completely forgotten that HP was very diverse for a UK-based children’s book of its time. Publishers back then didn’t have character diversity checklists that authors needed to meet to get published. She could’ve made every character in HP white and nobody would’ve batted an eye because that would’ve been the norm. In the 90’s and early 00’s, diversity in kids’ books and shows was giving your blonde protagonist a brunette best friend. JKR went beyond that because she genuinely wanted kids from different backgrounds to feel represented at Hogwarts.
She also couldn’t have been open about Dumbledore being gay because UK law at the time was that books with positive portrayals of gay people were not allowed in schools and libraries. Nutters were already burning her books for “promoting Devil worship”. Can you imagine the reaction if Harry’s elderly mentor came out as gay?
It really bothers me when people judge people in the past by modern moral standards, especially since the goalposts of those moral standards are constantly changing and even now people have trouble keeping up. What was woke five years ago is horribly offensive now, and what’s woke now will be considered offensive five years from now. Do people not learn about the French Revolution in school anymore?
Ngl the petty side of me looks forward to when all these modern YA authors who pillory JKR for Cho Chang and Dumbledore will be cancelled themselves for the gendershit they keep shoving into their books, either because it’s outdated or because people finally wake up to how regressive it is. They need to learn the hard way that there’s no appeasing this mob.
No. 2597272
>>2597202AYRT - Yes, that is how I originally found Fauxmoi, they were a bastion of sanity during the Depp trial when very other space on the internet was mocking Amber and glorifying poor abused Johnny. Overall the place is packed with handmaidens but considering this is Reddit, it’s not half bad a lot of the time.
>>2597248Thank you, I was going to comment on that line but forgot. No one here thinks he’s a “cis man” pretending to be trans. “Cis man” is redundant. We think he is a man who identifies as trans and wants to gaslight the world into pretending we think he is a True Woman. He’s no more of a faker than any other MTF. They really have no grasp on what we think at all.
No. 2597283
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>>2597108Ethel Cain is the poster child for the neo nazi 4chan edgelord to trans pipeline. Most of his fanbase are probably of the same tribe as him, so of course they don't care. Even his handmaiden fans who are actual women are bending over backwards trying to bury the stuff he blatantly admitted to saying and making it all about
> this is a smear campaign by evil terfs against an innocent twanswoman! she's traumatised from growing up in the south!and not at all acknowledging the racism and other shit in a time where it was long past normal. But they will go over a successful woman's book series from decades ago with a fine toothed comb to prove that she's literally hitler. Any successful woman they decide they don't like they will scrutinise for everything, trying to find something wrong with her. But people like "Ethel Cain" can go from picrel to putting on a dress and larping female religious and sexual trauma in an incredibly fetishy way (that no real woman would be allowed to get away with) and nobody is allowed to say anything against it or call out any of his behaviour.
No. 2597306
>>2596335yeah, I once accidentally bought a couple men's small dress shirts and they didn't sit right at my shoulders or hips. It legitimately made me look like a potato.
>>2597283Yuck, gross. I can just tell he smells like mildew, sweat and misogyny. His music is all just about LARPing as a waif in the deep south who gets raped, drugged and killed but its actually 'soo deep!' because he was also a
victim of hypothetical incest and also a "woman" so it can't be a fetish even when you run around in high school cheerleaders uniforms dressing up as a sexualised 16 year old!
No. 2597313
>>2590529>do you ever think you're wrong in your gc views?nope, men aren't women and to insinuate so trivialises the abuse women face at the hands of men.
>do you ever feel like you've constructed an incorrect view of the world in the way /pol/fags do, e.g. relying on biased statistics and cherry-picked articles? sometimes I do but then again, there's always another tif getting called out for pedophillia or rape and it just reconfirms my thinking.
>do you ever regret peaking? Nope, I think it was one of the best decisions of my life. I peaked pretty early when I was about 14 despite living in a really 'progressive' pocket of my city. I think gender ideology didn't really stick with me at the time because if gender was just a stereotype, why can men claim to be women by leaning into female stereotypes?
>have you managed to peak anybody? 4 of my closest friends, my mom and my older sister. I remember discussing trans ideology with my sister at 16 and it was an amazing hour long essentially Q and A.
>do you support trannies at ALL?I guess I support certain TIFs just a little. I disagree entirely with their trans identity but looking past that, they're a woman. As long as they're not literal handmaidens and support dress wearing moids more than actual women my feminism still applies to them
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No. 2597496
>>2597108I don't really think HP had negative racial stereotypes at all. Most of the people I've seen complaining were complaining about the east asian and indian characters and, having grown up in a community full of east asian and indian people, my east asian and indian childhood friends loooved those characters, loved Harry Potter and were really happy about the book representation which wasn't actually that common in major children's literature at that time. The other 'stereotype' I hear people complaining about is claiming the bank goblins were supposed to be a jewish stereotype but they're not, goblins are an actual like 1000+ year old mythological race in Celtic (and other European) mythologies and they were literally described as hoarding gold underground, so the whole 'this is an antisemitic stereotype' thing has always just been a weird reach. People just wanted to find things to complain about because the book series got more popular than any other children's book series in history when many other ones were written worse and with worse representation of minority and ethnic groups. Even the dumbledore being gay thing that people complained about not being explicit in the books obviously wasn't made explicit because what headmaster of a school talks about his sexuality to kids? Back then at least that would have been weird. And I say this as someone who didn't like HP that much as a kid.
>>2597317Modern women's clothes especially from cheaper brands are indeed flimsy and terribly tailored but especially for curvier women (and I don't just mean fat, but with wider hips or bigger boobs in general) and narrow shouldered women, men's clothes won't fit right no matter what. There are important reasons to not make clothes unisex, even if theoretically the same style would work on both men and women.
No. 2597518
>>2597496>There are important reasons to not make clothes unisex, even if theoretically the same style would work on both men and women.Yeah, a lot of what people take issue with are style or fashion choices with women’s clothing. Men’s clothing doesn’t fit me and never will. Some women may find that it fits them fine which is great but it doesn’t negate the need for women’s clothing being sized and drafted differently from men’s.
There’s some sort of commentary that could be made by someone smarter than I about how when women’s clothing is mentioned anons immediately equate it to be skintight, revealing, with deep necklines. When all that was mentioned was a plain t shirt.
No. 2597559
>>2597283It's crazy that they will defend this racist rapeape school shooter piece of shit, like what does he even do? He makes shitty music. Like even his music skinwalks.
Meanwhile imagine trying to tell a TRA "but Rowling was in an incredibly
abusive and controlling marriage and lived in abject poverty, being borderline homeless" but suddenly that trauma isn't an excuse for her wanting vulnerable women to have job security and a safe place to go.
I'm tired of this male privilage. Tell these handmaidens that if Cain was actually a woman they wouldn't be making excuses for his bullshit.
No. 2597587
>>2597518Yeah I don't wear revealing or skin tight clothing basically at all but I need to wear women's clothing unless it's an oversized tshirt or sweater or something because of my body shape, and not just for aesthetic reasons but also for comfort reasons. I actually like lower cut necklines too due to having huge boobs which look much more exaggerated when I wear crewneck/high neck stuff and also cause tops to ride up, so I actually feel more comfortable with the lower necklines you can find more often in women's clothing that hang off my chest rather than riding up over it. That doesn't have to mean sexy/tight though just giving my upper torso and neck some room to breathe. When I was at my thinnest and severely underweight I went through a phase of dressing in men's clothing after getting a lot of sexual harassment thinking it would help (it didn't) but despite being extremely skinny men's pants were so uncomfortable due to how constricted the construction of the hips and upper thighs/waist area felt, which impeded movement a lot and honestly the lack of stretch in men's pants/jeans doesn't work for women's hips very well even if it improves the longevity of the clothing. Our bodies are different and I think some GCers take it too far claiming the only reason women's clothes exist is to make things tight and sexy. I haven't worn tight clothes in over a decade but I still prefer women's garments 70-80% of the time. Instead of trying to make clothes unisex we should just try to purchase clothing that's good quality and properly cut and constructed instead of plastic shein/zara garbage. Women deserve to have clothes and shoes that are functional and comfortable made specifically for us rather than begging for scraps from the men's section.
>>2597578Yeah there's no way that actually happened, if it did it would be a completely unhinged thing to do in front of friends at a party and would cause embarrassment for everyone there. TIMs are such fetishists they don't even notice how gross and socially inappropriate their tranfiction is.
No. 2598534
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There's such an effort to teach kids about gender identity like it's this magical and exciting thing, but I feel like if I were 7 years old and reading this it would just be way too nebulous and confusing and I'd just stop caring entirely.
>"Yesterday I identified as a boy, but today I'm a girl. Who knows what I'll identify as tomorrow!"
>"I identify as both male and female."
>"I'm a girl, but sometimes I feel more like a girl than others."
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>>2598534I also don't know how the fuck we made it so far into the 21st century still thinking Dissociative Identity Disorder is a real thing, let alone a thing that changes your gender with each personality. I guess everyone around the DID person is supposed to memorize all of their personalities and those personalities' genders for every time they have a conversation. It sounds exhausting. The thing about the girl having PTSD related to being female and feeling "safer" identifying as not a girl is just depressing.
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>>2598534>>2598546I love how these books never define wtf a man or woman is or how what feeling like a "gender" even means for some mysterious reason. Just
>Some people feel like boys and some people feel like girls! What you you feel like? THE END No. 2598610
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Stealing this from the Ethel Cain thread because it's the second time I've seen the exchange of black people saying "I hate racist white people" being met with "You're transphobic!". Bonus points because bnuuymage openly posts about being a pedo.
No. 2598613
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>>2598610Here's the first time, there's other times ofc but in these caps it's stated so clearly. TIMs don't do themselves any favours kek
No. 2598623
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>>2598546If Amanda grew up in the '00s she probably would've been just a typical weebette.
No. 2598625
>>2598610Some random Black person: I don't like how some white people had a "racist phase" and I'm not gonna push it other than the rug.
This genius: You want black Israel!!! You're conservative!!!! You're engaging in transmisogyny!!
No. 2598629
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>>2598610These Cain Crusaders have to be peaking people left and right. I’m the one who posted the cap of posters at r/Fauxmoi (a sub with majority female posters, with a lot of black people specifically speaking out in the comments) responding critically to Ethel. Today I went into r/Indieheads (sub is majority white male, or at least no one was saying they were black and had any opinion) and everyone is just like, “Yeah, that was a great apology, cancel culture is crazy these days! Poor widdle thing couldn’t help it.” Picrel made me gag a bit, why do they all talk about having an n-word phase like it’s just a quirky little fun fact no one should bat an eye at?
No. 2598642
>>2596130>>2596157one of you guessed my name which is kinda spooky and that just confirms my name is rising on the troon charts which i hate because i don't want it to become an artemis-tier meme name. and jfc trannies are so unoriginal, they don't pick the name they would actually have if born a girl, they pick the name of their desired girl stereotype; it's the same with tiffies naming themselves ezra and levi.
>>2596188do you ever see a namesake online only to click their profile and discover that wow, it's another tranny? they don't know me but it feels like a personal offense, like you will never find sisterhood in small things such as sharing a name with another girl because you will never be a girl!
No. 2598649
>>2598629The way they are attempting to normalize this behavior makes me want to alog
>you’ve never met a trans girl from the Bible Belt of course she’s said slurs and draws children being torturedWhat the fuck is wrong with these people where this is just expected? No this isn’t normal and no being from the south has no bearing on that.
No. 2598677
>>2598663It's the same thing with men getting anal anytime you bring up crime/abuse/rape statistics.
To white TIMmies, I think it's because they assume that their trasness is a shield against being called an ist and phobe, "how can I be rac
ist, or homo
phobic? I'm trans and I experience trans
phobia!"
It's the same way transbians get confused lesbians aren't jumping on their gock. "I'm lichrally one of you now??? Why are you scared??" Is what they're thinking.
No. 2598695
>>2598610>should people who fell into the right wing pipeline kill themselves?>should people who were "manipulated" into being racist and misogynistic by obvious frauds and grifter, who directly or indirectly made politics a bigger toxic shitfest than it already was?Well, I wouldn't
say they should kill themselves.
No. 2598711
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TERF ideology dogwhistle guide made by fujoshit cumbrains
I especially love the anti porn section that literally just exists to defend their Yaowheewhee like >terfs acknowledge that women and children are being raped on cameras for profit. Like I kiiiinda understand that (won’t delve more into critically analyzing this bc that’s FASHY SWERF) but ummm shouldn’t we think about protecting access to omegaverse first??? What about the feminist porn?
And the concept that all radfems are inherently against women being into erotica like I know this handmaiden would have a field day scrolling through /g/(fujosperging outside of containment)
No. 2598716
>>2598546It’s hard to believe this was written by a pro-gender person and not someone gc.
>I have make-believe roleplay disorder where I pretend to be different characters and I want everyone to play along!>I was diagnosed with something that only boys used to be diagnosed with and that made me think I can’t be a girl!>I’m traumatised by misogyny and probably sexual assault so I don’t want to be female anymore!Oh yes very
valid, definitely not an ideology steeped in misogyny and/or narcissism at all.
>>2598679This is true for the handful of homophobes I know. I still consider them homophobes because they tar all L,G and B people with the same brush but their #1 criticism is grooming of and inappropriate sexual behaviour around children, e.g. DQSH and TIF teachers indoctrinating kids and trying to distance them from their parents. Unfortunately most LGB people we know are massive TRAs so it’s hard to disprove the belief that LGBTQ+ is a child-grooming sexually perverted monolith. The forced teaming has been so effective that even the otherwise sensible middle aged lesbians I know will defend blatant AGPs as “part of their community”. It’s like they don’t care that this is going to bite them in the ass.
No. 2598783
>>2598711Why do these idiots never understand that we're not coming for their mpreg omegaverse Astarion/Pedro Pascal pwp coffee shop AO3 bookmarks? Real women aren't harmed by that shit, unless they have to read it. Actual porn, the kind where women are subjected to things that no NEET with a DNI list can imagine, IS harming women, because it exists in the real world and has real life consequences.
All this crap about calling women 'females' and forcing women to stop thinking about their husbandos of the week is such a dead giveaway that none of these idiots go outside or interact with anyone outside of their echo chamber. Also what is with these people reaching so far that their arms pop out of their sockets to have some justification for this rambling nonsense, 'banning rape porn is racist because Hays code was made by old racist white men' literally who thinks this is a gotcha? This does nothing but make them sound even stupider. It's 'bitch is a dog and dogs bark and bark is trees and trees are nature so AKSHALLEEEE you're complimenting me uguuu' but in the opposite direction.
>>2598740It's hilarious that they've spent so long denying that there's a correlation between terminally online edgelords and TIMs and now they're all ablooing about how it's OK that Macon here had a little phase where he liked to say some words that some un/pol/itically minded people don't like and everyone does it in the south and anyone who says otherwise is a transphobe who must be burnt at the stake.
No. 2598926
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>>2598711>kink at pridewhy do progressives die on this hill along with troonism? maybe kids don't belong at a event dedicated to celebrating sexuality? maybe pride should be a local thing at gay bars instead of a virtue signalling corporate-sponsored event for spicy straight women?
>they see trans men as inflitrators of their spaces who are trying to "trick" gay men into being in relationships with thembeing stealth is literally trying to deceive other people into thinking you are the sex you aren't. it's one of the main things troons fixate on. TIFs whine and cry over being "seen as a girl" and constantly ask about going stealth on grinder
No. 2598939
>>2598926Jesus, one of these girls are gonna get beaten or worse if they continue this retardation. Also:
>FTM TopTop as in the yaoi seme? Kek, how does that even work?
No. 2598947
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>>2598938oh no, a minority character's name was slightly weird from a book written before the internet took off, the horror. there's surely never been novels written in eastern countries where a western character's name has been off.
>>2598939she would love for men to suck on a fake silicone penis and wants to stick a dildo in them while stealth
>I use a prosthetic, is that okay?kek
No. 2598958
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>>2598740>As a southern person seeing these people use living in a conservative state to justify them being racist is so insulting like do you really think everybody here is an uneducated racist retardThey do genuinely believe this on some level. A cow I follow thinks that if she ever goes south of the Mason-Dixon Line she’ll be hate crimed out of existence on the spot. She cites this fear as a reason she cannot travel to concerts outside her state. When her parents did visit the south she made her mom take pro-troon stickers to stick all across the state they were visiting as some sort of “gotcha”.
People have some weird preconceptions about the region and troons just view transphobia as a free pass to say whatever they want without consequence. The same logic is applied to the blatant misogyny they show too.
No. 2599105
>>2599019Think about it like this: the author of The Happy Hooker was a Holocaust survivor, where she grew up witnessing nazi soldiers raping boys and girls in front of their own mothers.
No girl with an onlyfans is mentally well. Any girl willingly camming was taught by the environment she grew up in to be detached from herself and also never view sex as something that can be explored on a healthy plane. There is no "love" attached to any of the sexual things she does.
I've even read accounts from young women, who left camming after meeting boyfriends through OF, that their boyfriends treated them like living porn and it gave them a reality check of what they were doing with their lives.
No. 2599264
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>>2596499I’ve noticed during my time on tumblr that TiMs either fucking hate astrology and make fun of all the TiFs/women who talk about it, or they obsess over it and make it the central theme of their blog despite only knowing about it for like a month kek.
I think the former is a remnant of the “anti astrology memes” of the mid-2010s when men thought women were vapid and dumb for having a passing interest in astrology, like picrel. The latter is moids who are attracted to the “type” of woman that likes astrology (he also thinks they’re vapid and dumb) so he attempts to emulate it despite not understanding or caring at all about the actual hobby.
Fits into the larger dynamic I’ve seen of “Aggressive AGPs who fucking hate women for not having sex with them” versus “Retarded uwu AGPs idolizing women who won’t have sex with them”
No. 2599534
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flames. Flames on the side of my face
No. 2599623
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No. 2599626
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Are they aware of how much they sound like saturday morning cartoon villains sometimes.
No. 2599797
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>>2599669This has been my experience. Scrotes are always vinylfags, specifically Angelphilia or DDys. Picrel for one of the biggest offenders
(This is the one that they'll defend to the death, even though it's dressed as a teenager/school aged child and squatting to pee with a blushing expression + realistic genitals/breasts… Picked a SFW pic but there's plenty of others out there by the company themselves). Some women (mostly young TikTok poisoned zoomers) collect them too but it's 99% perverts.
No. 2599811
>>2599805AP dolls are fucking disgusting, and I hate that I can't say that off anon without getting dog piled. There's so many worse ones out there too. Vinylfags are the pariahs of the BJD world for a reason. I could do a whole writeup on DollDreaming, the biggest forum, and all the retards and perverts there
and I might.
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No. 2599954
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was going to get into twin peaks then i saw this and now i don't even want to. is there a single movement outside of trannies that demands you accept them, or "die"
No. 2599960
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>be me
>Paid pillow talker
>Job makes us pretend to be troons sometimes so I rotate a few characters here and there
>We are biological women who do this
>Job makes sure us bio women pretend to be trans and our natural voices really trick these men
>I have a post op character I play
>Chaser calls
>After a few, he asks about my "cock"
>Mention in character that I was post op
>Chaser hangs up keke
Lmao how did we let things get so out of hand that being a fetish for creeps is so popular and even the most "gender validating" thing which is bottom surgery, the usual goal, will turn off the average chaser. All these tranny memes have done is make people miserable and ugly and unwanted
No. 2599983
>>2599960I mean the best thing a gnc moid can do is accept himself. If hes gay he's gonna just have the same struggle most gay scrotes have. Moids are naturally sluts so if you want to settle down with one as a gay moid its gonna be hard.
Hsts think they can stealth their way into a long term relationship with a masculine man but its built on lies. At least if ur just a twinkle gay man you don't have to have some second big coming out to your romantic partner.
Also what the fuck is a pillow talker?
No. 2599991
>>2599960>Job makes us pretend to be troons sometimesThis is so fucking bleak but it makes me kek that troons would probably seethe at that.
>>2599983Phone sex I assume
No. 2600083
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If you are scared of men then that means that you are simply scared of men and not men in make up and tucked penis between their thighs!
No. 2600121
>>2599954Agree with
>>2599955 , please ignore the troon character and give the show a chance. Thankfully the troon character isn't in a lot of the episodes and the story of the show is so good that it should be experienced at least once, especially if you're into murder mystery and psychological horror.
No. 2600123
>>2599951Surprise surprise, the “gender is a performance” cult makes it so when you’re done performing, you’re a miserable dipshit that fell for a belief system masquerading as science. Tifs making up 90% of detransitioners, and a majority of desisters for a reason.
Shame these girls fuck up their bodies because they think they can play doll or roleplay in the character selection menu. They don’t even have time to unpack the internalized misogyny before gendershit gets served to them with special pronouns, its seductive as hell to guillible/autistic/lonely/young people.
No. 2600132
>>2599635I don’t go out of my way to do this (yet?) but one subject I’ve noticed makes all TIMs (and normal men) feel excluded is talking about caretaking roles you or women you know have taken on. Childcare, elderly care, postpartum care for friends or relatives. Volunteering with homeless or refugees. These are roles that are overwhelmingly pushed on women but aren’t considered sexy enough for TIMs to fetishise, so they’ll have no idea what to say. One handmaiden relative of mine works in an elderly care home and can enthusiastically sperg about this for hours, bless her, and it makes her transbian friend visibly annoyed and uncomfortable every time. It’s hilarious. This is not what he became a girl for!
Also with subjects like these you don’t have to worry about them going home and using your story as masturbation fodder or reposting it on reddit as if it happened to them. I’d personally never talk to a TIM about (c)sa in any specifics because this is something they get off to. Even some of the gay ones like Dylan Mulvaney clearly fetishise the idea of being a sexually desirable young girl.
>>2599639Medical misogyny is an interesting topic in this context because they’ll always try to one-up the actual women while revealing how privileged they really are. Medical transitioning is extremely easy where I live so when medical misogyny comes up, you end up with conversations like
>Oh you had to wait fifteen years for your debilitating fibroids symptoms to be taken seriously? Well I had to wait until my SECOND appointment to get my prescription for HRT (because I didn’t show up to the first appointment), how’s that??Another fun one is women with painfully large breasts who couldn’t get a reduction covered by insurance vs. TIM ‘top surgery’ which is covered in full. Especially the TIMs who get ridiculously large ‘mommy milker’ implants don’t go over well at all with women who’ve suffered with large breasts since puberty. I swear I’ve witnessed women peaking in real time as a result of this subject.
>>2599960Yeah chasers want a ‘chick with a dick’, not a rotpocket. If they wanted a vagina they’d seek out a real woman. The only TIMs who get their penis inverted are 1) transhausen-by-proxy
victims like Jazz Jennings and Susie Green’s son whose parents are so homophobic they’d rather have a mutilated asexual ‘straight daughter’ than a healthy gay son, 2) extremely coombrained AGPs who want to use their own bodies as a stand-in for depraved shit they can’t get a woman to do and 3) HSTS who want to rape straight men by deception. Nobody actually wants to fuck a stinkditch.
No. 2600161
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someone please help me fix this picture
No. 2600265
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>>2595288They're not even using the right image.
No. 2600529
>>2595288So you admit to only valuing women for their looks? Welcome to classic ol' misogyny.
Also why do they always portray terves as far-right white women like since when was any radfem a rightoid. Call coming inside the house. Their minds would break if they discovered there are more
woc radfems.
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>>2600162Alternative version
No. 2600578
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in response to a post about the incel to trans pipeline
No. 2600613
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https://star-anise.tumblr.com/post/707587798633480192/so-yeah-the-moment-she-dropped-the-words-plasticsigh. this is in response to a tranny responding to a woman against beauty culture with "but ehh i love being femme it fixes muh dysphoria?!"
No. 2600620
>>2600544Racist retard doesn't understand that pcos facial hair isn't what differentiates the sexes. This is why a shitton of tifs with pubebeards are still clockable as fuck.
A woman with a full beard is still more of a woman than a moid with laser hair removal.
No. 2600622
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>>2600613samefag but i don't even get what the fuck this made up scenario about an evil
terf wanting to get makeup banned so she can get a job promotion has to do with anything
No. 2600638
>>2600613I've never seen radfems outright want to ban makeup or surgery. Rather they wish to educate women on how they have been brainwashed into rejecting themselves by the patriarchy. Like moids dont need to wear makeup or get plastic surgery to get hired in most jobs. They don't need to wear impractical or uncomfortable clothing.
Basically we tell libfems and pickmes to take a step back and ask themselves WHY they feel such a strong impulse to reject their natural bodies.
But of course even just encouraging women to question their obsession with self harm is fascism to porn addicted troons who fetishize that special brand of misogynistic masochism.
Leave it to a moid to think everything has to be resolved in violence and criminalization. Just like how they talk about punching feminists who dont agree with them and banning a woman's free speech whenever their private spaces are invaded.
No. 2600723
>>2600643Damn wtf.
Crabs in a bucket mentality? Like "I had to do it so you do too"?
Or internalised sexism? Like "I want you to succeed as a woman, just like I did, so this is what is required"?
No. 2600807
Mind blowing how so many intelligent people suddenly go full retard and defer to activist myths the second this topic comes up. By Strangio and DJ's logic, it should be a crime to refuse to do a prostate exam on a natal female. DJ also includes random bullshit like
>1-2% of the population does not fit into the categories of male or female.
That's not even remotely true, where the hell is he getting this information? Fucking Hontra? Then DJ shows this retarded table where it says that natal male children are allowed to take testosterone to "live as male." No, you fucking idiot, they're taking the drugs to address some kind of congenital defect, not to "live as male," because they already "live as male" by default! These delusional, ideological arguments are the result of TRAs living in a bubble where their dumb ideas are never questioned, and that's why they deservedly lost this case. If they actually exposed themselves to other points of view, it would have been immediately apparent that this point of argumentation was not viable.
There's a big difference between prescribing a drug on-label for a physiological condition and prescribing it off-label for a mental malady that it isn't even reliably proven to effectively treat. Strangio even admitted that suicide is rare in trans patients, effectively blowing up the entire claim that this treatment is life-saving. Should those suicides now theoretically be less rare as a result of these bans? No, they aren't. Because the entire claim that disallowing a kid from transitioning guarantees suicide was a pernicious lie from the outset.
Additionally, troons don't meet the criteria of a "suspect class," a group of people to whom strict scrutiny would apply under the Fourteenth Amendment. In order to be considered a suspect class, a group has to possess an immutable trait; by TRAs' own admission, dysphoria is not required to be trans and gender can be fluid. That's before you even take detransitioners and desisters into account. That's why the plaintiffs in this case relied so heavily on the (nonsensical) hypothetical that the law was allowing boys to get testosterone but not TiFs, rather than the seemingly more obvious argument that it discriminates against troons. Thing is, though, the law isn't drawing distinctions based on sex at all; it bans the treatments based on diagnosis and age. It doesn't matter what the child's sex is, exogenous hormones, blockers, and surgery cannot be used to treat gender dysphoria for anyone under eighteen.
Also, fuck this misleading-ass thumbnail. I listened to the ENTIRE oral arguments mp3 on the SCOTUS website and at no point does anyone say troons are "not people."
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I’m not sure which thread this best fits in, but I figured it would be appreciated here most. Stolen from the other farms but it gave me a chuckle.
No. 2600935
>>2600083>"if you're scared of men pretending to be troons you're actually scared of cis men"The fucked up thing is that even with this ideologically twisted way of thinking they STILL don't give a fuck about women's safety. They don't care to do anything to stop these "cis men who are just pretending" and see women getting raped and sexually assaulted as an acceptable trade-off as long as troons get to "just pee". In their eyes it should technivslly even include the fragile poor widdle troonitas getting hurt by the same "cis men" but since they secretly know that won't happen to them and just to real women they don't give a shit.
And they NEVER take the thought further. Like let's say we are really just sacred of those "cis men pretending to be trans women". How do they suggest we prove who is a "real trans" and who is just a cis man pretending? There's literally no difference between the two, not physically nor mentally, so it's impossible. To them asking 6ft tall Lilith to not whip out "her" erect penis in the women's changing rooms is apparently "too traumatic" to her - compared to women getting literally sexually harassed and raped, which is totally less traumatic and a noble sacrifice so Lilith can whip out her dick in peace.
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jk rowling is now offering money to a new group (MoMa Breastfeeding) for women who breastfeed after a large group (La Leche League) started letting in moids and trannies in who insist that their weird HRT-laden nipple discharge is good enough to feed their infants. weird that trannies always be telling women to create our own groups if we're upset that the group we were previously in has changed for the worse once they started coming in, but then when we do make a new group..
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>>2599816Literally picrel kek
No. 2601097
>>2601095How is that interesting? It's utter nonsense. They are likening being male to being impoverished and disadvantaged, despite being the most privileged group. Patriarchy and even "
toxic masculinity" is not some prison for men to either suffer or escape from, they created it for their own benefit.
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>>2600829woketards and lolberts very often support the exact same policies. Its almost like this left versus right divide is a total sham by the same corporate think tanks who finance and control both sides of the narrative
No. 2601168
>>2601126The differences between Neoliberalism and Libertarianism seem pretty superficial to me. I think the main difference is that Libertarians are more honest about their support for de-regulating markets, while Neoliberals pretend that's not what they're doing but do it anyway Libertarians are little less gung ho about identity politics, but they're still more amicable to them than conservatives or even some moderates.
I genuinely worry that within the next 20 years, the two party system will go from being "Republican vs Democrat" to "Right-wing populism vs. Libertarianism," where the socially conservative party is big government and the socially liberal party is anti-regulation.
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>>2601095Completely incoherent, I have no idea what this retard is even trying to say.
No. 2601192
>>2601097>>2601116>>2601169When men talk about privilege like this, understand they are talking about “ability to get laid”.
Re-read this post with this in mind and it will actually make sense.
I’ll translate
>masculine man: someone who was born male and is content to navigate sex relations as a man, despite being disadvantaged in terms of sexual opportunities (compared to women).>AGP trans: a failmale who isn’t desired sexually and wants to become a woman in order to be desired sexually.>ugly woman: a woman who may not be the first choice for sex, but will always have plenty of men willing to give her mediocre dick.>terfs: evil women who don’t want failmales “gaming the system” by transing.>conservatives: idiot males who don’t realize failmail system-gaming is a benefit to malekind.>if all people had equal access to sexual opportunities, then the ugly woman category would still exist but the other ones would not (moids living in a free-fuck-for-all society would not feel the need to trans, since they’d have their cravings satiated) No. 2601400
>>2599264That's rich coming from trannies kek, you could literally remake this meme by only replacing "sign" with "gender identity" or "neopronoun". At least astrologyfags aren't demanding that bathrooms be segregated based on zodiac signs.
>>2597100Based. Nonnas tell me, is it worth it going back to tumblr only for the GC/radfem community? I take it that "
terf views" are allowed, but do GCs reply directly to tranny posts or is it better to vague post?
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ToyHouse is an art site populated nearly 100% by tifs and they all bend over backwards to defend tims and men in general despite it being extremely evident men would never do the same for them. (This was in an "unpopular opinion" thread)
No. 2601456
For those who don't know Hebrew this fucking reddit thread is telling a TiM (probably an AGP) that he should mutilate himself and telling him he's
valid and complaining about how he's parents don't accept him just for them being sane and not allowing him to act like a menace in society. Absolutely disgusting. It ruined my day seeing it because I thought my country won't defend gender ideology and ideologues because most people I met were sane there but just very rude but I was wrong. Here's the thread:
https://www.reddit.com/r/israel_bm/comments/1lxuxna/%D7%A6%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%9B%D7%94_%D7%A2%D7%96%D7%A8%D7%94_%D7%91%D7%9C%D7%A9%D7%9B%D7%A0%D7%A2_%D7%90%D7%AA_%D7%94%D7%94%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%9D_%D7%A9%D7%9C%D7%99_%D7%91%D7%A2%D7%93_%D7%98%D7%A8%D7%90%D7%A0%D7%A1%D7%92%D7%A0%D7%93%D7%A8/(this is an imageboard) No. 2601466
>>2601209Yes of course it harms the child, they just don't care.
>>2601382This is a really weird criticism of bi women. So because some women are attracted to men and sometimes voluntarily enter into relationships with men it is those women who are responsible for moids feeling like they have the 'right' to the female body?
>>2601389Some might disagree with me but from my real-world experience, men are not considered womanish or gay if they wear ornate fabrics or fashionable clothes, as long as they are otherwise masculine or seem to be straight. Some of the most popular (with women) straight moids I have known actually dressed pretty ornate and fashiony, and were still perceived as masculine. One guy I know who is probably the 2nd most popular-with-women moid I've ever personally met constantly went around wearing silk bedjackets and haori and shit, silk scarves, a shit ton of jewelry, vibrant patterns and layers and had long hair but because he came across as straight people just thought he was cool. Moid whining that they can't wear anything other than the most boring moid clothing or they will be assumed to be gay are just making it up or the reason people think they're gay is they give off gay vibes.
>>2601418Lol love to see troons laboriously rediscovering feminism and sex differences and then arguing about it as though it's a new concept.
No. 2601484
>>2601477I was just reading papers by Victorian sexologists (moids) who were insistent that the vaginal canal had no nerve endings.
Anorgasmia was a documented phenomenon even back then (called ‘frigidity’). Moids could not understand how women couldn’t coom having duty-sex with your mandatory abuse-scrote did not compel women to fits of pleasure. They conducted many unethical experiments trying to make women cum mechanically through different means, such as forced urethral and anal insertion.
Moids being defective never comes across their mind, it can only be that women are irrational, broken creatures who need to be raped differently to function properly.
The most well documented and replicable way to increase the chances/intensity of a woman orgasming is her being attracted to her partner.
No. 2601487
>>2601484>urethral insertionI did not know this was a phobia it was possible to have but I have it now, thanks.
I agree, actual attraction to your partner, as well as actually feeling happy/relaxed in that moment, your partner knowing your body and what you like, and not being anxious/stressed all play a huge role in whether you can orgasm at all and how pleasurable it is, but moids never seem to understand this and therefore can't even fathom the role they themselves play in whether the woman they're sleeping with orgasms. They can get off fucking a sandwich or melon with a hole cut into it or a sock or something so to them if a woman isn't orgasming in a 'sexual' situation she must be broken somehow. Of course in reality most women just are not attracted to their moids, and even if they are, the moid is usually not making them happy and wooing them in the right way for them to easily orgasm. But the moid does not want to take responsibility, while also being very angry when it doesn't work for some reason (so the moid does take it personally).
>>2601485Well yeah of course you can't have both experiences but just from the things men and women say about sexual experience I think you can kind of get an idea of the differences. I think there is pretty high variance in women and how specific women are able to get off or not but basically every moid of all time gets off from some sort of mechanical stimulus and, if he's a total broken-dick coomer, some depraved but brief visual stimulus stacked on top. Most women don't get off like that, like you said there usually needs to be some context for arousal to even get to the point you could orgasm and it likely won't work if you're experiencing negative emotions or you're tired or checked out. Hence the moid fixation on 'hate fucking' that women are always baffled by.
No. 2601491
>>2601489I just associate that with female hyenas and their pseudopenises kek.
Also related but I think when TIMs who had SRS claim to have more woman-like orgasms it's actually because they've fucked up their genitals so badly they can't easily orgasm anymore, and they just assume that the difficulty to achieve sexual pleasure is more woman-like although they will call it 'full body orgasms' 'multiple orgasms' etc. but I think it's just their weird cope for being unable to (easily or at all) achieve any sexual pleasure and assuming that's what women all experience.
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how do trannies pathologize that there exists an extremely prolific pattern of mansgendered rapehons being Nazis and 'klansfems', but no such trend, not even a single example, for TIFs? hmm, its almost like they're male socialized, violent + depraved + emotionless wildebeasts whose only socialization besides 'RAPE RAPE RAPE' was slouching in their gamer chairs sans shower, scrolling /pol/ with one hand and jorking it to cp with the other. It's almost like this is a distinctly male rearing that no woman could or would ever experience because TWAM, but idk guiiiiise I might just be a big meany bioessentialist
No. 2603539
>>2603457yes, probably. think that's why they acted so fucking creepy and gross. they always talked about how they wanted dicks so they could do gross or funny shit with it. I notice that part of male predation is in the joy of "ruining innocence". I think the motivation for these girls is that if they don't act "prudish", then there's no fun for men trying to gross them out. If they're not shocked by rape jokes, then there's no fun for men causing outrage. Plus if they perpetuate the rape culture further, then they can present themselves as aggressive, in control, and fearless. Moids intimidate eachother through games of chicken. They don't respect men who "bitch out". Yet when a woman tries to participate, they're also able to use the chicken game as a grooming tool, telling her "don't be so sensitive. what are you, a little bitch?" then she may feel like it's her fault since she participated actively to fit in. It's how Andrea Dworkin describes man-boy socialization in chapter 2 of Pornography: Men Possessing Women. "Men develop a strong loyalty to violence. Men must come to terms with violence because it is the prime component of male identity. Institutionalized in sports, the military, acculturated sexuality, the history and mythology of heroism, it is taught to boys until they become its advocates — men, not women. Men become advocates of that which they most fear. In advocacy they experience mastery of fear. In mastery of fear they experience freedom. Men transform their fear of male violence into a metaphysical commitment to male violence. Violence itself becomes the central definition of any experience that is profound and significant."
Just a paragraph earlier, she writes: "Boys become men to escape being
victims by definition. Girls would become men if girls could, because it would mean freedom from: freedom from rape most of the time; freedom from continuous petty insult and violent devaluation of self; freedom from debilitating economic and emotional dependence on someone else; freedom from the male aggression channeled against women in intimacy and throughout the culture."
"Men are distinguished from women by their commitment to do violence rather than to be victimized by it. Men are rewarded for learning the practice of violence in virtually any sphere of activity by money, admiration, recognition, respect, and the genuflection of others honoring their sacred and proven masculinity."
I noticed that a lot of normie guys in school were scared to mess with these proto-tifs moreso than with the normie women. (I include butch lezzies in with "normie women" because they didn't have the gross-out chicken mindset of the TIFs. They were still normal women openly repulsed/afraid of men.) Yet I don't think the TIFs were safer because they'd also get socially involved with different types of men who try to groom "edgy & rebellious" youth, trying to get them to go further and further to "prove" how much they're not like the others. The way that TIMs shame TIFs for retaining any sentimentality towards their former female life is one of these manifestations. They push these girls to "prove" that they're really trans, to give up all their former associations and "stop being attached to their birth sex". Because if TIFs are allowed in female spaces, then the TIMs believe they're less likely to be admitted themselves since birth sex still factors in some capacity. It's actually funny how TIMs claim to be such oppressed widdle dewicate fwowers, yet they'll push and prod TIFs for not living up to unrealistic male social standards (having too many emotions, talking about their problems too much, not being stoic providers and human shields). They'll call TIFs pussies for it. It's fucking incredible, such blatant male behaviour. Yet you can't say anything about it because if you say the TIMs are acting like misogynistic men, then you're "misgendering" them. They get to think of themselves as le edgy
femcel tomboy gooners with le heckin
valid male hobbies, but TIFs can't be feminine without inviting mockery from the TIMs. They'll spin anything the TIFs do as sinister. "Acting feminine? She's trying to get women to let their guards down. Acting masculine?
Toxic masculinity!" TIFs pick up on the fact that these TIMs are borrowing this double-bind from terfs. So they start calling these TIMs "TIRFs" as a derogatory term. In reality, these types of TIMs have AGP for skinwalking as man-hating lesbian radfems. Their ideology is so fucking self-contradictory though to the point that they say "you shouldn't be misandrist to cis men, because they could secretly be trans women who haven't figured out their gender identities yet". So the only "men" who they really get the greenlight to harass are the ones who actively "choose" to become "men": the trans-identified females. Hahahahaha. Leave it to moids to turn radical feminist theory into a bare shell used for reinstating the patriarchy on disobedient women.
No. 2603691
>>2603529I’ve recently started lurking the
TERF trans alliance on Reddit and this is more evident here than elsewhere. All the TIMs on the sub are obsessed with being gifted female identity. I just wonder why so many intelligent women entertain them.
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Once again on the girlgamers subreddit the trannies have to make it all about them.
>this meme makes me feel weird
GOOD. YOU ARE weird, you ARE a man, and your instincts are telling you to feel uncomfortable because you know deep down that you’re a creepy loser that’s fetishizing the “cute girls” you want to play as a boy. GET OUT OF OUR CLUBHOUSE, begone male
No. 2603880
>>2603868Same, a guy I used to hang out with in my old friend group trooned out during the pandemic and all of the girls are constantly commenting on pictures of his extremely male face with stringy pink hair and leaving fire emojis and “girl you’re SO HOT it isn’t fair”
I feel like I’m on crazy pills or something
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remind me again why everyone worships contrapenis? now he’s getting cancelled again over the palestine shit, good.
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>I tried very hard to maintain a leftist version of terfery, as they became increasingly friendly with the far-Right. I listened to Meghan Murphy's podcast when it started but then she took a hard Right turn, becoming friendly with neo-Nazis. There are plenty of factions within the movement. Many terfs realize how toxic KJK/PP, Jennifer Bilek and other cult members are. There were active debates about WoLF itself and Kaeley Triller Haver's Hands Across the Aisle which was a joint venture of WoLF with the Heritage Foundation of Project 2025 fame. Black terfs often tried to call out white terfs for racism, such as comparing trans women to blackface. i'm pretty confused on where they run into radical feminists that are also far right. i've been peaked since 2017 and pretty active in rf spaces ever since, i only rarely run into women like that and even then they're more of the wombyn womb divine holy woowoo brand and not barefoot and pregnant. and idk as a black woman i think the womanface/blackface parallel has a point kek
>>2604182>Men will literally get 10+ years of education to get to a high position of power just so they can rape women and children. Men will spend several years on grooming just to be able to have the opportunity to rape somebody. Men will establish cults and psuedo-religions just to be able to get away with rape and molestation. Men will get into relationships with vulnerable single moms for the prospect of having sexual access to their children.maybe just articles/cases/etc. where this is explicitly stated, many tras can't understand something unless you shove it in their faces
No. 2604206
>>2604201>maybe just articles/cases/etc. where this is explicitly stated, many tras can't understand something unless you shove it in their facesI mean, are these not just incredibly common things that literally everybody has heard of? The hundreds of male academics, celebrities and politicians you see on the news who have engaged in grooming and/or rape? The way you can look up pretty much any cult and itll have
some history of sexual abusing its members? The way girls who are children of divorced parents having an experience with one of their mom's boyfriends acting creepy or
abusive is almost a guarantee? Like I dont feel the need to spoonfeed things that are just obviously reality…
No. 2604241
>>2604201I'm not American so I don't keep up with American feminist groups, but I remember a podcast I listened to once where an actual radfem (or at least non-libfem) said she had to leave WoLF because they couldn't define radical feminism despite calling themselves radical feminists and then started accepting donations from right wingers (who then started dictating what direction WoLF was going to go in…). So if that tracks for other "right wing radfem GCs" etc/whatever, then none of them actually know anything about radical feminism, they're just claiming to be radfems because they think it sounds cool. I remember learning the right wingers bankrolling WoLF started telling them to focus on family and marriage and children and basically not at all on women's liberation.
>>2604178Nta but anecdotal evidence would be my childhood friend who dated a man she met at church who ended up
sexually abusing her in her sleep and she woke up in the middle of it. He kicked her out of his house and she was homeless because she'd moved in with him. He is actually religious and studies the bible and learnt the organ so he could play hymns and yet… Ugh. Anyway my friend
attempted to take her own life twice but was essentially interrupted/rescued by people passing by each time. Luckily she's recovered a bit now but she's still reliant on drugs and alcohol but at least her new boyfriend seems a lot nicer.
Anyway national examples would be pedophiles in the media. Jimmy Savile was a beloved TV celebrity who used his wealth and charisma to
sexually abuse 500 children. Some of them dead.Basically transitioning into a "nonthreatening man" is a lot easier than becoming a TV celebrity. It's also a lot easier than sitting down to study the bible, especially if a guy really hates the bible and loves being a sissy instead. A charismatic nonthreatening man will get an instant friend group of young women like "hehe he's just different! He's not like other guys!" So now he's got their trust and they've put him on a pedestal, next he's going to target one of them. And if she says no then he can say cry
terf.
No girl or woman should ever put a male on a pedestal because he always has an ulterior motive kek.
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No. 2604472
>>2604336Males are fucking demons. Not to mention Nassar was a doctor as well which takes 10-15 years of extremely difficult studying. All so he could molest
hundreds of children. He literally had over two hundred child
victims. But nooo, a man would never dress up to access women sexually, of course not.
No. 2604475
>>2603288>because they wanted to feel like "one of the bros" even if it made other women uncomfortable.which means it's all a performance in an attempt to convince themselves and others that they truly are men. virtually none of them actually have the same fetishes and urges as men.
>>2604201>call out white terfs for racism, such as comparing trans women to blackfacemeanwhile male trannies literally compare themselves to black women. the audacity
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kek
No. 2604626
>>2604178I
>>2604336 thought of a few more examples.
>watch the documentary “Keep Sweet, Pray, and Obey” that talks about the FLDS Mormon cult leader Warren Jeffs, who had dozens of underage girls as his “wives” before he got arrested >watch “Surviving R Kelly” about how the rapper R Kelly groomed young women into being his sex slaves by offering to help with their rap careers>watch “Coached Into Silence” about the epidemic of sports coaches molesting young boys>watch “Leave No Trace” about the epidemic of Boy Scouts getting molested by their troop leaders>watch “Holy Hell” about a New Age yoga/ballet cult leader who groomed his male followers into having sex with him>watch “Rael: The Alien Prophet” about a New Age UFO cult leader who groomed his female followers into having sex with him No. 2604680
>>2603625Hang out with people who have actual non-online hobbies and lives, and then state your opinions as openly as possible without endangering yourself. They will self-select into/out of your friend group based on your views.
>>2603691Many radfems entertain moids because they believe in the socialization model of misogyny and think that men who are 'raised right' or allowed to be GNC or whatever will turn out 'good' and non-misogynistic - many radfems also have a stronger allegiance to leftism than to feminism and so when push comes to shove they will try to find men to ally themselves with on the left because they know for a 'united left' they need men. They seem to think troon moids (the 'good ones') are good candidates for political and social allies because they're GNC and therefore less misogynistic, right? right? They assume these 'good ones' aren't AGPs and predators. But I think it mostly just comes from the misguided desire to have a political and social movement together with men, impress men, get men on 'our' side and all of that rests on a belief that if socialized properly by women, men will behave well toward women. Also a lot of lesbians feel solidarity with gay men (even a lot of straight women do, tbh) and think of HSTS moids as superoppressed gay men.
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average tra
No. 2604725
>>2604201>A troon claiming they were 'radfem' and 'GC' while being transyeah pull the other one.
>i'm pretty confused on where they run into radical feminists that are also far right.They don't, radical feminism is a leftist ideology. You can be GC and right wing but the examples they give (Meghan Murphy, Kellie Jay Keen) are not far-right, they are center right at most (in KJKs case) by British standards. Neither of them claim to be radical feminists anyway.
>the wombyn womb divine holy woowoo brandThe people I meet like this are mostly all leftist hippies, I think most of the right-leaning GCers are just normie career women, neither into woowoo shit nor barefoot and pregnant. There is a brand of right wingers that are basically just into homesteading and reuniting with nature though which kind of horseshoes around to extreme hippies on the left.
>many tras can't understand something unless you shove it in their facesNTA but we're not talking to TRAs here. And anyway it's not like TRAs dont have access to the thousands of articles and news stories about men doing this, even for troons specifically there is Reduxx that documents many cases, they just don't care.
>>2604241This isn't true about WoLF though. Some of the founders were actual famous second wavers who were very influential on radical feminism in the 20th century, they weren't some random zoomer women who didn't even know what radical feminism was. As I remember it the rift happened around the time of the Equality Act hearings and some people in WoLF couldn't agree on whether they should work with right wingers for a common goal. That doesn't mean they didn't know anything about radical feminism, it just means one faction had a more pragmatic/machiavellian strategy to achieve legal wins and the other faction had a more idealistic strategy. This has been an argument within radical feminism (and other feminist movements) literally forever and will probably never cease to be. I can't find any evidence that they focus on 'family and marriage and children' anywhere, but maybe you have examples.
Why are you spoilering facts about the Jimmy Savile case kek?
>>2604297>No shit most women who would get involved in feminism are women who want very little to do with either of those things.I'm not sure why that would be obvious. Radical feminism is a movement for the liberation of all women, and most women are mothers. Obviously a lot of the people who themselves are radfems don't want to be mothers or even in many cases have relationships with men, but that doesn't mean the plight of most women in the world shouldn't be discussed and considered in radical feminist spaces. It's not a little exclusive club for the special, good women who don't let themselves get too affected by patriarchy, it's a movement for the rights of every single female human being on the planet. There are plenty of social groups that cater solely to the interests of childfree and single women, but the ideology of radical feminism isn't one - in fact it isn't really a social group at all.
>Nothing is stopping mothers especially in the US from organising themselvesAnd many radfem mothers are doing exactly that. I'm not sure what your issue is. Being a mother does not make you right wing and mothers are the main people who advocate for mothers. It's certainly not single/childfree women or men who advocate for them kek.
>they don't really care that much about other womenSeems pretty hypocritical coming from someone who thinks that 80+% of women shouldn't even be involved in a movement for women's lib.
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>>2604810It's not even a niche group of gymbros at this point. In the last few years taking extra T is mens kneejerk advice for a multitude of issues and they refuse explore any other route or cause because it must always be a T issue. Low mood, low energy, if a man says he feels any slight reduction in his sex drive.. they jump in telling each other to get on that testesterone gel pronto. It's parroted as the cure all and first port of call. If a doc checks hormones levels and says they're actually fine.. nah bro just buy the gel on the internet and take it anyway. Its cool. Your doc is just descriminating against men bro. Dont ya know men are being discriminated against by the healthcare industry.
It's funny how much they manage to sound just like troons.
No. 2604869
>>2604724its extra embarrassing when you're so fucking retarded by extension you make a conservatard dunning kruger rapeape scrote who idealizes a time where women were chemically or surgically lobotomized for having opinions look more logical.
I hate that the mainstream media paints the antithesis of trans ideology being a conservative moid when a dumb man has nothing to lose in this shit and is only against it because 'man in dress=weird'.
No. 2604891
>>2604701Precedent for women being able to cooperate with less shitty men and improving their society, I’m guessing. After all the most aggressive male baboons died from infected meat, the less aggressive and more social males were left and the troop became much more egalitarian. When aggressive males from other troops joined this one, both males and females from the peaceful troop bullied them into behaving themselves. This carried over into the next generations as well. This shows it’s possible for males to behave themselves and live in peace with females in the relative short term, but I don’t know how sustainable it is over many generations.
>>2604725Thank you, nonna.
No. 2605029
>>2604472Yeah it's insane when you realize the level of effort moids will put into something JUST to have access to women/children to rape, even when that thing (like being a doctor) would likely give him high enough social status that many women would willingly date him. But they do these things just for opportunities to rape. When women do something like becoming a doctor, it's almost 100% of the time either because they want to help people or they just want to be independent and have a good job/comfortable life, while when moids become doctors there's a high chance they do it to gain access to vulnerable people, and even if it's not strictly for sexual reasons, they often want to be doctors out of some psychopathic urge to have power over life and death. When women become nuns it's often because they don't want to be around men, they want to do good deeds, they actually 'love' god or whatever, whereas when men become priests there's a high chance they're cutting off their options to ever have a normal family and life just because they want access to children or power over the weak/vulnerable in their communities. There are probably tons of other examples of jobs that have very punishing requirements that moids will get into just to have access to women/children or power over weaker people, while when women get those jobs it's for totally understandable, morally good or neutral reasons. Even jobs like nursing or teaching that have relatively low social status attached to them, men will be treated like saints for taking those jobs even though they often are only interested in them because of the element of power over the weak or access to children/sick women.
I had a job once where I had to transcribe interviews from qualitative research, and one of the biggest research projects I ever worked on was a series of interviews with ER doctors about whether they would be interested in some new system that would help them follow up with patients and gain more insight into whether their original diagnosis/treatment was correct. Except for one, all the male doctors in the interviews said they were not interested at all (usually giving some reason like 'I already know when I see someone in the waiting room what's wrong with them and I don't even care what they say their symptoms are, I know best') and also other than the one guy, every single one of them when asked why they decided to become an ER doctor said it was because they had a hero/glory fantasy of having the power over life and death or someone calling out 'I need a doctor' on a plane and saving someone and everyone clapping and admiring him. All of the female doctors said they would be interested in seeing follow-up diagnoses to become better at their practice and their reasons for wanting to become ER doctors were things like 'I realized that a lot of people don't have access to a family doctor so I have the chance to help people who don't have access to proper medical care, sending them for extra tests they would normally not be able to get, and helping with preventive health care' or some other variant of 'I really wanted to help people.' Really drove home how ghoulish moids are. They all just openly and proudly admitted to wanting the power to decide if someone lives or dies, too.
No. 2605051
>>2604297Mothers really don't give a shit about childless/free single women. They have entire communities where they ban single women/non-moms and support only each other. The mothers in my country care more about saving troon feelings than women and have no problems with every bathroom turning gender-neutral.
There's far less support available for single, childless women over 30 than mothers of any age in my country yet they still want to be catered to and be the center of everything, all while calling us incomplete/bitter/jealous, regardless of whether we are childless by choice or not. Sadly, they will always have the bigger voice because they are the majority and we live in a world where a mother who's a high school dropout working minimum wage will still be considered more 'valuable' than a non-mom with a PhD.
No. 2605170
>>2604869>>2604916It's literally been feminists who have been the most vocally anti-trans since day one. Troons even named their biggest enemy "
TERF" with the f standing for "feminist" for a reason!
While it's annoying that they assume all anti-troons are old, white, conservative bible-thumpers it's also quite useful. It means they have no defense against actual arguments against them and it's why they get caught so off-guard by logic and facts in any debate against a
terf. "You're just a racist bigot!!!" they begin to shout, only to then realize they shouted it into the face of a young hot black butch lesbian
terf who is having none of their shit. They get so confused kek
No. 2605231
>>2604483Are they really your friends then? How come you have to/can accept their reprehensible/repulsive views when they would not do the same for you or even hear you out?
>>2604556It's just missing Emily, Alice, Artemis and Lilith. And random Japanese names for white men lmao.
>>2604644Yes afaik there are studies and it is still active after drying. It's especially dangerous for children. I can't believe Tgel is legal in the same era where everyone was agreeing people should be arrested for breathing in the same room as other people if they might possibly be sick with COVID lol. You can't help possibly having a cold but you absolutely can just get T injections if you wanna fuck with your body so bad. What's worse is I've seen both TIMs and TIFs saying they deliberately rub Tgel on places where women typically touch (like door knobs and hand towel dispensers in bathrooms) to deliberately masculinize strangers for 'genderfuck' reasons. It's actual bioterrorism.
>>2604860There is no way this shit should be legal to produce or sell. What is even the excuse?
>>2604713It's also because women, even TIFs, tend to have actual jobs and hobbies so they can't or don't want to devote their lives to obsessively modding online spaces to punish wrongthink. TIFs also tend to be less petty and aggressive and just prefer doing things that are pleasant rather than wanting to punish and control people for fun. TIFs are also way less likely to be techbro types than TIMs are. TIMs run a lot of the internet, also Wikipedia. Male NEETs have boundless energy for aggressively controlling people once they get a foothold or some power in a 'safe space' whereas even NEET TIFs who might have the time to be powermods are probably crocheting or making dolls or reading fanfic instead, TIFs tend to be on the extreme female-socialized end and are often extremely conflict-averse and timid.
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They're thiiiiiiiiiiis close to getting it. Maybe one day they will, the amount of detransers is growing day by day as they start to accept common sense and the pervasive misogyny that made them transition in the first place. It's heartbreaking how their self loathing and insecurities made them into empty husks whose only hobbies are nitpicking other people's language and beliefs and making suicide, whoops sorry sewer slide, jokes on Discord.
>>2605170Kek they really do, you can tell that they don't leave their echo chambers at all.
No. 2605244
>>2604820she?
>>2604891Yeah. They'd be 2 or 3 generations on by now but I don't know if anyone's gone to check if they've reverted.
>>2605238I've read almost the exact experience in female autist spaces. In fact if you go to their subreddits a lot of trans men hang out there.
No. 2605262
>>2604891AYRT and I agree that women have historically been able to cooperate with men to improve society, it's not a totally irrational thing to do and I don't necessarily believe that women should always prioritize feminism over every single social issue (although actual dyed-in-the-wool true radfems are supposed to believe this, since the 'radical' in radical feminism alludes to the fact that the root of all types of oppression is patriarchal/sexist oppression). I was just explaining why I think some radfems try to work with or platform TIMs when it never actually accomplishes anything. I think the wrongheaded part of this strategy is not that it's bad to cooperate with men for social change, it's the idea that TIMs due to being 'GNC' are somehow better candidates for this than most men. TIMs are pretty much the worst kind of man and are incapable of cooperating with women. Moreover I don't believe that if women work to socialize men better the men will stop being misogynistic, I think some men are naturally for whatever reason less misogynistic than others but it has very little to do with how they're socialized by women imo. This is one of my biggest issues with conventional radfem thought, there's this assumption that socialization (especially by women) can change the nature of individual moids, and also an assumption that TIMs are actually GNC or socialized less male and therefore more likely to actively cooperate with feminist women. In your baboon example, the TIMs would be the first group of men who would need to die off to leave more cooperative men. Moids transitioning is the furthest extreme of misogyny and lack of ability to empathize with women/female children.
>This shows it’s possible for males to behave themselves and live in peace with females in the relative short term, but I don’t know how sustainable it is over many generations.I think in order for it to be sustainable over the long term there need to be 'equalizers' of women's power both socially and physically (like access to weapons for women as well as women holding positions of power) and social/legal structures put into place that allow for antisocial males to be swiftly punished. I think antisociality and violence in males is most likely highly genetic, so killing off the violent and psychopathic ones en masse would probably go a long way to making society better, but you would still need to be able to continuously keep antisocial males in check. You can see that this already happened to some degree in modern Western society, obviously moids are still a huge problem but they are kept in check more than they were in past societies or currently are in more heavily patriarchal ones, but I still think we haven't gone far enough and unfortunately many women pity and project themselves/try to empathize with awful males. This seems to be one of the issues with the TIMs some radfem/lesbian feminists tried/try to work with - GNC women assume that men's reasons for apparently being GNC are similar to women's reasons, and thus that GNC women can easily be reached and empathize with women, while in fact their reasons for being trans/GNC and attitudes toward the sex binary are very different than GNC women's. Lesbians thought they 'helped' the gay males in the LGB movement by ousting NAMBLA, while a lot of gay males to this day resent lesbians for taking pedophilia out of the gay rights movement. TIMs (especially HSTS TIMs) often act like wolves in sheep's clothing at first too, saying what they know women want to hear until they have been incorporated into feminist movements/communities and then start dismantling them from the inside and taking a mile after asking for an inch. Many AGPs often happily go along with women misunderstanding that they are harmless gay males in an attempt to infiltrate women's spaces, by being intentionally vague about their sexuality - which is fairly easy for many of them since so many of them are pseudobisexual. Even the self-described AGPs who orbit radfem/GC women's spaces will often maintain a pretence of it purely being an 'autosexuality' that they don't want to involve women in, and radfems (who have very few allies in any political sphere) often happily accept the poisoned apple because they genuinely don't understand how evil these men are and how much they are willing to lie. The levels of male depravity are hard for a lot of women to understand, especially women who intentionally hang out in mostly-female spaces and don't interact much with men socially.
Add to that the fact that a lot of early radfems were mixed up with other leftist causes like the anti-carceral movement and it became associated with radical feminism, and you get a lot of women trying to be true, proper leftist feminists by aligning themselves with what are actually male causes in a feel-good disguise. Thankfully modern radical feminists are for the most part moving away from the prison abolition movement or are realizing that even seemingly 'innocent' GNC dress or hobbies in moids often have a fetishistic element (like the discussion of TIMs being into dolls upthread), but this wasn't historically as common. Many early radfems came out of LGB communities and saw any form of GNC or gay/trans man as 'their people' to some degree. I'm not really trying to blame anyone here because radfems accomplished a lot of good for society, I'm just trying to answer that nonna's question about why many seemingly intelligent women entertain '
TERF' troons. I think radfems usually think these men are very close to peaking, and think if they keep talking to them the moids will come around and accept themselves as regular GNC men, and then will convert to being male radfem allies.
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>>2605148Double whammy: "Isla" Bryson's mom said she's disgusted with him AND that transgenderism is shit
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FGM but make it woke (picrel is a drawn diagram of "metoidoplasty")
No. 2605356
>>2605051I really don't think this is true, I know plenty of mothers who care about childfree/single women. At the end of the day both are women. I would not have become feminist and happily GNC if it were not for my own mother and how she raised me. Everyone on this earth has a mother which is one good reason to care about mothers, also all mothers are women which is a good reason for a women's liberation movement to care about mothers. You don't have to personally socially hang out with moms or like hanging out with them to realize why it's important for feminism to be about all women. You are painting about 80% of all the world's women with the same brush even though there is a huge diversity of different women with different views, personalities, etc. and both mothers and childfree women are part of that.
>The mothers in my country care more about saving troon feelings than women and have no problems with every bathroom turning gender-neutral.Meanwhile where I live parents, especially moms, are the main people advocating against this, actually protesting, showing up to school board meetings, etc. Many famous feminists including JK Rowling are mothers - JKR got the social influence and power she did because of something she originally did for her children.
>There's far less support available for single, childless women over 30 than mothers of any age in my countryYour country sounds shitty but I wouldn't say that's the case everywhere, and again, radical feminism is about liberating all women. We should not be playing a zero-sum game where because in some countries mothers get more social support, we should try to punish them and not care about them. It's not their fault and all women should receive social support. A big part of my early interest in feminism came from seeing how badly my own mom was treated for being a mom compared to single/childless women of a similar age and compared to fathers. She was the most influential person in my life who encouraged me to do all the things she couldn't do and supported me in getting a good education, defended me from people including teachers and school admin who bullied me for being GNC as a child, etc. It sounds like you are bitter about mothers because of your personal social experiences and of course some of them are going to be bad people who don't care about childless women, just like some childless women are bad people too, but personal beef with moms is not a reason to say feminism doesn't pertain to them.
>Sadly, they will always have the bigger voice because they are the majority and we live in a world where a mother who's a high school dropout working minimum wage will still be considered more 'valuable' than a non-mom with a PhD.Again, totally not true in my social circles or where I was raised, it was the opposite. My mom had 2 graduate degrees but as soon as she became a mom she started to be horribly mistreated by people who respected her before, especially since she chose to put the well being of her daughter over moids. I've seen it more recently with friends/peers who had children. As one pedestrian example, mothers are discriminated against in hiring while fathers get a boost in promotions and earnings. The increasing popularity of not having children in wealthy countries comes precisely from the fact that it is better in a lot of ways to remain childfree and many women see that and put off/avoid having kids. At any rate none of this is really an argument for why mothers should be excluded from feminism, if anything it's an argument to improve social equality for all women and stop infighting between different groups of women. Feminism has always gotten more accomplished when it has united women from different groups rather than fragmenting them into smaller factions.
>>2605148I know some women who disowned their sons for less, but also not all mothers have boys. All women also had a mom. Anyway I don't subscribe to this idea that all women lose all agency and personhood as soon as they have a male baby, it's both baseless and dehumanizing. The women who choose to act like 'boymoms' are making an active choice to be bad people, and should be held accountable as individuals.
>>2605238Exhibit #2989849384 of TIFs just being girls who felt they couldn't perform femininity adequately and stopped just short of realizing it's not performing femininity that makes you female. Also I highly doubt she's intersex, why do sooo many of them claim to be when intersex conditions are actually incredibly rare?
>>2605283Based. See? Acting like a boymom is a choice.
>>2605352This isn't as horrifying as what they actually do in traditional FGM but it still is horrifying. How many people do you think would actually support 'gender affirming care' if they knew more about this frankenstein shit? This isn't even as horrific as phalloplasty either.
No. 2605367
>>2605231 >There is no way this shit should be legal to produce or sell. What is even the excuse? It's exists for people who won't do the injections. Even though testosterone is only a fortnightly intramuscular injection anyway. A few years ago the gel wasn't as much of a thing. Docs didn't want to prescribe it. It wouldn't absorb properly and wasn't able to give a steady and reliable dose to the person taking it. Also tends to transfer onto others and it was expensive so alot of troons that were getting their hormones for free were chasing this option that costs ten times as much.. and doesn't work as well. I still remember ftms who were so vocal about pushing for the gel.. later crying because once they switched from the injection to the gel they were having their periods again. When they were warned that'd happen. It's a joke just how lil discomfort they can bare when trying to get this 'life saving hormone' into them.
Now alot of them are on the T gel. It's more widely given out on prescription, by extension has become easier to buy on the black market and teens who wouldn't dream of fucking around with black market injectables.. are pretty casual about taking unprescribed hormones in gel form.
There's another gel they buy illegally called DHT (dihydrotestosterone) that they apply directly to the clit to cause enlargement. ftms tell younger ftms about it and how to get it. But DHT gel is 95 percent alcohol.. being directly applied to the clitoris ffs. These things being in gel form has only led to extra fuckery.
No. 2605389
>>2605368The redhead they pan to at some point is also a man and I think he passes better than the one in the hot seat, just his size alone next to an average sized man is astonishing. Also his male gay voice and his incredibly aggressive demeanor are clear tells if you can't tell by looking at his face alone.
>>2605367I know that the purpose is for people who won't do injections but I think that's a terrible reason to make it legal/available. Lots of people have no choice but to inject themselves with things or get injected with things (vaccines, insulin shots for diabetics come to mind) and they just have to deal with it, but the retards who take T for transition (or body building/whatever dumb shit actual moids take it for) can just opt out of taking it entirely if they care so little about transitioning that they can't deal with a needle. Like this is supposedly a life or death situation for them, but they won't get over their fear of needles for it? And will create potentially life changing situations for the people around them, like causing miscarriages and diseases in women and children?
>There's another gel they buy illegally called DHT (dihydrotestosterone) that they apply directly to the clit to cause enlargement.I thought the 'bottom growth' they get on testosterone was already really painful and unpleasant, I've seen so many TIFs whining about it. I had no idea some of them try to exacerbate the issue on purpose.
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>>2605352>metoidoplastyThis unlocked a memory in me, it is what this awful groomer youtube troon jammidodgers got done. I used to watch her when I was a gullible teenager who thought troons were the cool "it"-crowd on top of the woke-hierarchy. I thought she was cool because she passes really well (at least in videos, never met her obviously) and that was somehow proof to me that troons were totally really the sex they pretend to be. Even at the time I didn't get why she didn't want to get the "real" sex change surgery and how she could possibly be happy with a tiny little "microdick" when it's barely any different than her natural vagina. I feel confident calling her a groomer since I was a teen and by watching her I was groomed into the troon-cult that happily promotes genital mutilation and makes it look cozy and fun. I even remember watching her content back after peaking and it is SO devoid of any actual insightful thoughts. For example she'd react to
terf/transphobe memes and go "first of all that's just wrong, we know it's wrong, so they're just so silly and stupid" and she'd provide literally zero counter-arguments at all. Nothing. And comments were all going "yasss king you owned them evil bigot so hard" and the culty nature of it all suddenly freaked me out so much. Frankly it's embarrassing that I used to look up to her on any level.
No. 2605518
I have a very vulnerable family member, mid 20s, masc lesbian, extremely mentally ill/psychotic but well meaning, kind and the person I love the most. She's the person closest to me and pretty much my only family member. She's extremely lonely, depressed and lacks all social skills to the point she has no friends. She introduced to me to gender skepticism and we used to talk a lot about how nonsensical trans stuff was and how depressing it is that it's based off stereotypes and self hating, mainly ftms. After she moved away to a different city we stoped talking as frequently, and whenever I tried to talk about gender stuff I realized she kind of dodged the topic. Today I saw she's been liking insta reels about "ftm joy", "I used to be dead inside but look at photos after I started T and how much happier I am!" And now I'm terrified. It really feels like, because of her social isolation she might be latching onto anything that will give her meaning, especially since the ftm spaces are full of lesbians ("t4t MLM") and she's strictly attracted to masc women, which is becoming rarer and rarer to see (any masc girl seems to comply to gender roles and start transitioning). We actually had talks about this way before and lamented that lesbians felt the pressure to do this, and now I'm afraid she might be falling into the same. This fucking sucks.
No. 2605566
>>2605389 >I thought the 'bottom growth' they get on testosterone was already really painful and unpleasant, I've seen so many TIFs whining about it. I had no idea some of them try to exacerbate the issueThey've such a selective aversion to discomfort. dht gel isn't licensed or legal to import into alot of countries but they buy from foreign online pharmacies that have no qualms about shipping it out. The risk is on the buyer for importing a controlled substance and doing their dumbass off-label shit with it
>Andractim is a topical gel containing dihydrotestosterone (DHT) and is used to treat hormone deficiencies, particularly in cases of low testosterone. It's applied to the skin and comes with warnings about potential side effects like skin irritation due to its high alcohol content It also comes with a highly flammable warning kek. 96 percent alcohol.. to the clit. The burn from that would be a bitch but Tifs who are too scared of injections love to show off their hauls of testogel and andractim gel next to each other.
No. 2605727
>>2604201Anyone who peaks only to un-peak is either a turbo-retard who didn't actually peak in the first place, or a bippie with no core principles. Where are these scores of un-peaked former GCs she's met? Because I've been in GC spaces for years and in my experience, it's extremely rare, and usually the behavior of someone who isn't mentally stable. James Shupe is an example of someone who frequently flip-flopped, but that's just because he was insane and schizophrenic. Show me a
sane, non-BPD person who un-peaked. I've never met one.
No. 2605745
>>2605518This is so tragic, and weird because she was gender critical to begin with. I had a friend with a similar trajectory though and we had to part ways as friends because neither of us could handle each other. Since you are a family member and there's probably some unconditional love there, seconding what the other anon said: try to reach out and connect with her more, even if it's not in a way where you're constantly asking her about gender topics. She may need a sane person in her life right now especially if loneliness is what caused her to transition.
>>2605566This is so weird, I don't understand how you would be fine with that level of discomfort in your genitals, basically the most sensitive part of your body, but too uncomfortable stabbing yourself shallowly with a tiny needle in a less sensitive part of their body. Phalloplasties and metoidoplasties and even the mastectomies are also body horror to the extreme and some of them will do that sort of elective surgery while being too scawwed of needles? Don't they need to be injected to go under anaesthesia for their surgeries? Don't they often need steroid shots for their scars? Having your arm/leg flayed and sewing it onto your genital area is fine?
>>2605689Right, forgot about PCOS being now called 'intersex' lmao. I see male troons claiming to be intersex with very high frequency too and they don't have any equivalent to PCOS. Also I find it hard to believe stories like this about 'growing up intersex' refer to PCOS because most of the PCOS symptoms like hirsutism don't really start presenting right away at the beginning of puberty. Most of the women with PCOS I've seen talking about hirsutism say they started getting noticeable/concerning levels of facial hair growth in their twenties or even later, and the other early signs and symptoms of PCOS are usually just irregular/painful periods which are fairly common for adolescent girls without PCOS also. Possibly weight gain but that too is often gradual or ramps up in the twenties/thirties. And I don't think anyone thinks fat girls aren't girls.
>>2605731Yep there's basically 2 main
triggers for moids trooning out, which are either pregnancy/childbirth/marriage to a female partner or impending allegations of crimes, especially sex crimes but also any other kind of violent crime.
>>2605727The one person I know who un-peaked was probably not a bippie but she had a lot of mental health issues and was also dealing with severe loneliness similar to the
nonnie's story about her relative above. I agree with you that it is incredibly rare though. Keep in mind the person in that screenshot seems to be claiming that they were a '
TERF' while simultaneously being trans, so clearly they don't understand that words have meanings.
No. 2605807
>>2605262IA, so many AGPs are ex-army and are the most aggressive and weirdly hypermasculine men in their former selves; I don't think they have an inherent sense of self and therefore always take it to the most extreme end of performance.
>>2605262idk if you know anything about english history, but there was an era called the bloody code where it was possible to be hanged for stealing anything more than £5 - but historians think that much of our moral evolution as a society might have come down to a lot of the most antisocial children being hung before they could procreate, a bit like the abortion argument in Freakonomics.
>>2605283fuck yes Janet.
>>2605689I have PCOS and I'm very mentally affected by it in a lot of ways. Which is why I don't understand how deliberately making myself even more hairy would help.
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keep getting recommended this by tumblr, they say there's no algorithm but I think they are ragebaiting people now.
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and this, which just makes me sad.
No. 2605996
>>2605745TIF claiming to be intersex = PCOS.
TIM claiming to be intersex = thinks he has a “female brain” (from porn brainrot) or thinks he’s too short/too much moobs/not enough beard hair to be a real man.
No. 2606013
>>2605996I think that for most TIP claiming some Intersex Condition Not Otherwise Specified (as opposed to people with real DSDs who’ve been diagnosed through genetic testing and know exactly what condition they have), the reasons are pretty much the same as their reasons for trooning out. TIMs think it would be hot to be some kind of futa creature and/or don’t feel like they fit in with other men. TIFs feel like failed women, either because they don’t look as feminine as they think they should or because they don’t fit in with other women. I’ve never seen any of them describe any sort of concrete physical abnormality; it’s always “I wasn’t as feminine as the other girls” or “I wasn’t as masculine as the other boys”. Nothing that would concern a doctor, just
vibes and insecurities. I’ve come across multiple TIFs claiming to be intersex transmasc and what they describe as the ‘intersex experience’ is almost identical to the ‘closeted transmasc experience’ which most of the time just sounds like being a gnc autistic lesbian to me.
They’re using intersex as a synonym of trans. I’ve even seen some of them claim that being trans is an intersex condition in itself because of the ‘opposite sex brain’ delusion, like having girly thoughts in a male body makes you an amalgamation of both sexes. We’re heading back into shemale hermaphrodite territory but with an updated vocabulary.
No. 2606042
>>2606016Exactly. They’re lying and they know it, just like AGPs lie about having always felt like a girl inside. They’re getting off to the idea of being a hermaphrodite and they know that claiming some kind of medical basis for their fetish makes them much more sympathetic to the public. Anyone who’s open to the ‘true trans’ narrative will be open to the ‘intersex condition’ narrative, and unfortunately that’s a lot of people. The general public is still very uncomfortable around very gnc women, effeminate gay men and AGPs (the latter for a good reason, obviously) and would be relieved to hear there’s a medical basis for this. It’s not that our society is misogynistic and repressive and those men are pornsick perverts, these people are all just freaks of nature! Phew.
Actual DSD activists have succeeded at changing the attitude of the medical establishment somewhat so that infants born with ambiguous genitalia are no longer surgically ‘assigned’ a certain sex (which is where the AGAB terminology comes from), and that also means that TIMs claiming an intersex condition won’t be under pressure to get any kind of genital surgery. That would be regressive, see! They can still get hormones and breast implants to feel more comfortable in their bodies, but by embracing the girldick they’re actually being super brave and true to themselves!
No. 2606048
>>2605807>Woman is when 2000s chick flick cheerleader bully and Barbie>Man is when everything else>PCOS symptoms of fat hairy acne impossible to control or accept, trust me bro, everyone else with no self esteem says so, must be true>Therefore PCOS is man, roids vendor agrees, must become successful man instead of failed Regina George, no other hope for success or joy in this cruel world>Roids lead to significantly worse acne, body hair, obesity, plus balding and severe period issues and maybe some other things that aren't real because the other tboys said t side effects don't exist but they sure feel like they exist to Tiffany here, not that she'd ever go to a doctor about them in case she got cancelled by her loving and inclusive and supportive friend group>No need to do anything about insecurities because that's not manly, just wallow in private like everyone else>PCOS to man pileline: success! Time for celebratory Tiktok dance