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No. 3915[Reply]

ITT: We discuss feminism that addresses women's class inequality along with patriarchal oppression and serves the needs of all women and not just pretentious, doughy, upper middle class university goers
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No. 10562

anyone have any good podcast or video recs?

No. 10587

One thing I find disconcerting is gender critical feminists aligning themselves with figures on the political right, I think it makes sense pragmatically on practical issues like certain acts of legislation and keeping troons out of women's spaces but we shouldn't kid ourselves into thinking they're our friends. When push comes to shove, the right will take the side of trannies over women because they are both misogynist - from /pol/tards claiming "trans women are better than real women!" to conservatives who'd rather they had a tranny child than a lesbian one.

No. 10611

>>10587
yes and this has also led to right-wing people calling themselves radfems or gender critical feminists when they still believe in femininity, the patriarchy etc..

No. 10629

>>10587
>>10611
100%. just because someone is anti-trans or anti-porn doesn't mean they are radical feminists. I grew up in a conservative christian patriarchal misogynist environment so I know that first hand (everyone around me hated trannies, thought porn was evil even if they consumed it, and they sure as shit hated women), but it seems like women who grew up in more liberal households don't know or something and get sucked into supporting right wing misogynists because they share one or two opinions on controversial topics. sometimes I feel like peoples pattern recognition is broken here or I'm taking crazy pills or something.

No. 14648

>>10587
>I think it makes sense pragmatically on practical issues like certain acts of legislation and keeping troons out of women's spaces
doesn't seem very pragmatic to me to trade stuff like reproductive rights etc for the tranny stuff.
>>10611
>>10629
exactly, god i hate this shit so much, just look at amount of replies in the "feminationalism" (lmao) thread on here vs this thread (although to be fair a bunch of those replies are people infighting kek). brainwashing and propaganda from the right is extremely prominent especially online.



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No. 37308[Reply]

Source : https://substack.com/home/post/p-149034490

Moral of the story :

> Never give up your financial autonomy for marriage and children

> Never assume that your man is never going to cheat, or use protection while cheating
> Never have sex without protection with your partner, no matter how long you've been together
> If you end up a homemaker, find side hustles to help you accumulate money on the side
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No. 39056

>>38505

How bad is it exactly for you ?

No. 39154

>>37308
Tradwives don't exist anymore. Unless you count 80+ geriatrics.

No. 39157

>>39154
they don't even exist now, it's just larping

No. 39389

>>39154
They exist in very religious communities, and many more traditional or 3rd world cultures across the world. Many women also get hoodwinked into a 'tradwife' lifestyle if they are financially dependent on their husband or babytrapped. Idk how y'all are defining the term tradwife because a hell of a lot of women are stuck living these sorts of lives today, no matter their age. The majority of marriages consist of the woman bearing the brunt of the domestic labour and taking care of a manchild, the main difference between the past and now is that the wives now are also taking on jobs and bringing the income simultaneously.

No. 39443

>>39389
Part of me believes that this whole trend is merely the natural progression of the soft life mindset where a bunch of women fantasize about doing nothing in life and hoodwinking men into giving them the princess treatement and doing nothing beside chilling and vibing at home, while occasionally doing some softcore chores like baking a cake. It's quite easy to see how this is nothing short of an unrealistic fantasy built on many wrong assumptions, the main two being :

> Men will have no issue providing anything their wives wishes for to maintain their comfort


> Taking care of the house and raising children (even more than one) is much easier than office jobs



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No. 37715[Reply]

I got this idea from picrel:
https://retractionwatch.com/2015/07/21/to-our-horror-widely-reported-study-suggesting-divorce-is-more-likely-when-wives-fall-ill-gets-axed
We need to avoid spreading bad information. Whenever we link to debunked or retracted studies in discussions, it only discredits the case for feminists, not unlike the once oft-repeated claim that the world would be underwater by 2005 harmed the environmentalist movement in the eyes of the public. Our arguments need to be strong and factually-based.
In this thread, post any studies or data that pertain to women's rights (eg labor, relationships, crime, domestic violence, sexuality, etc) you've seen shared around that are debunked, misleading or inaccurate. If possible, supplement things with more context and better studies.

No. 37719

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First one is when moids bring up that men's domestic abuse shelters were closed by rabid feminists, specifically bringing up Erin Pizzey.
Here is an excerpt from Pizzeys own book that shows the real reason why mens abuse shelters don't work out.

No. 37729

>>37719
I remember this, but forgot the names involved. Thanks, anon.

No. 39414

>>37719
Which book is this from?



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No. 10868[Reply]

I think this is a good thread to discuss here. There's some times when I see women online who once considered themselves to be radfems to completely change their views and get into other ideologies at large. They become spinsters, blackpilled, right wing, libfems, etc. I've even seen women start identifying as nonbinary or transition after they no longer interact in radfem spaces. While some of them do a 180° turn, others just keep some of their radfem views while not interacting with other radfems anymore. I would like to discuss this phenomenon here, and in the case any of you have decided to stop being a radfem, you can also contribute to the thread and say why you quitted and how your views changed. Please no hate.
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No. 14514

>>14512
>I suppose many of these types of women do not actually believe in what content they put out or internalize it. once you truly understand what males are their attention on you is rather laughable.
This is exactly what's going on: she couldn't be bothered to apply the theory to reality and chose to entertain the flirting with an engaged man. Look at how there's no mention of his fiance either in these journal entries. It's all just me me me I love attention that I'm getting right now - yet in a matter of weeks she changed the narrative to claim she was "abused and charmed" and spends her nights crying on the bathroom floor. She also claims to be totally over the situation but can't stop making sly little videos and posts about it.
Tbh there is one good thing about this situation and it's that both KC and LM now have huge red flags over their heads. The former is an autistic unemployed unfaithful scrote and the latter is a spineless attention-seeking homewrecker who can't even muster up any sympathy to the women she hurts. Any person with standards and morals will hopefully steer clear of these idiots in the future. I hope KC's (now hopefully ex) fiance can move on and be happy.

No. 14517

Did anyone happen to see if anything else went down with LM yesterday? She’s deleted a lot of stuff now kek

No. 19726

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I'm the person you banned months ago and while I still stand for what I said (criticism of any movement is healthy for the movement itself, or else it cannot be self aware. And more than ever there's more fucking right wingers in radfem spaces) I'm back to being a radfem terf manhater. Long story short I had a mental breakdown where I thought I was going to be exposed and everyone would hate me and I would lose my job because someone told me the lolcow staff had ties to the troon who attacked this site before and I believed it. And I thought I would be harassed and followed. I was in a panic and I'm not the sanest of people. Anyway that was the reason. I'm not anti radfem, pro tranny, or a male. That's all, Goodbye.

No. 22042

I hate coming across interesting threads only to find they've been inactive for months. Regardless, i wanted to share my thoughts on the ex Radfem matter.
There are times where i've distanced myself from GC/radfems over troon obsession but i always realize it is everywhere and it's a major anti-feminist force. But there are bizarre/repulsive things in the movement i simply can't accept. Like millenial radfems seething over younger women/girls in the movement, making degrading comments on their bodies (on radblr, for example) or being pretentious. I've come to realize it's their way of dealing with bitterness and assume a 'mother' role of sorts. Pseudo-familial hierarchies are incredibly suspicious. Separatists would be the worst offenders but i also see this in more normie radfem groups.
I think that the deeper problem resides in how we define 'politics'. Politics is acting on the real world, incl. your intimate life but especially on women around you, in the workplace, in your 'community' . It's great if feminism makes someone leave their mediocre nigel or shave less or whatever but it's not political, at least not to the degree of actively supporting other women. This confusion between personal choices and politics is so deep that even in this thread, we see anons who otherwise fully agree on cultish tendencies argue over husbands. Yes, marriage is servitude but a married woman who volunteers for women or fosters independence in her daughters/friends is an effective feminist. It's nowhere near what we could do, but still.
Imo it's also why the obsession with who we date, makeup and apparent femininity is so prevalent in radfems. It's easy to pat yourself on the back for not wearing makeup, chastise women who do, it's harder to challenge the mean girl mentality which is ironically extremely girly. Radfems' denial of their own, deeply entrenched femininity is super fascinating to me.
I'm just confused by the anons who hate even the idea of platforming our ideas to the wider public. I don't know how to break it but the average person is right-wing, even if they think of themselves as moderate. There's a nonna who kept mentioning people who'd be turned off by GC moms. But who, exactly? I know for a fact normies do not care for trans acceptance and don't care about accusations of 'tradthottery'. I also know that your average libfem has zero political sense beyond sharing nice posts online. Politics (again, action) isn't a game of finding peoPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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No. 7420[Reply]

A thread for discussing the cancer in society that is pornography.

>pornography is the orchestrated destruction of women’s bodies and souls; rape, battery, incest, and prostitution animate it; dehumanization and sadism characterize it; it is war on women, serial assaults on dignity, identity, and human worth; it is tyranny

-Andrea Dworkin
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No. 39005

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Porn makes moids into pedos. It's so over for humanity.
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No. 39199

According to Linda Lovelace, her role in Deep Throat was forced on her by her abusive husband.

No. 39265

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so i’ve seen this faggot before as another one of those carbon copy anti censorship otaku whiners. whose BPD geared him to streamline infantile 2d porn and kpop girls to compensate his failing career and for attention seeking of course

anyways pic related consooooomoids desperately wish and think everyone around them is lying. they think everything that goes against their libertine excuses is a fetish. a sexual repression. you show them an honest portrayal of sexual brutality and they lose their shit and need to center it to their fictional and private worlds (a fetish, a kink) because they themselves cannot distinct. posters like these are more akin to sexual harassers shitting up everything

No. 39266

>>26580
So the point is to vaguely not look like the porn your father likes and change yourself because you are the fault of pedofiles and autopedofile womens participation in porn and porn culture. That's a highly specific victim blaming porny solution to a porny problem. Shouldn't the actual solution be report them to the police, mock the disgusting autopedofile women who act in porn and call child protective services.

>>39005
>>38758
KAM

No. 39267

>>39265
Making softcore rapeporn of women in fiction isn't stunning and brave like you think it is. All fictional depictions of women suffering are jerk off material to men.



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No. 4098[Reply]

Gender critical and radical feminism define gender as sociological (feminine/masculine) and sex as biological (female/male). Woman is defined as an adult human female. Radical feminists seek to abolish gender as it is used by patriarchy to oppress women socially, reproductively, and financially. They strive to preserve women's spaces (such as restrooms, locker rooms, and health care providers) and areas of artistic and intellectual expression separate from men.

Trans ideology posits that one's gender is self-determined based on one's feelings and defines woman as the characteristics and behaviors traditionally ascribed to females by society. Increasingly, transactivists are conflating gender and sex and asserting that a person can self-identify both gender and sex.

Gender critical feminists strive to maintain the distinction between gender and sex. The conflation of gender and sex erases the biological reality of women, eliminates women-only spaces, and disestablishes women as a protected class. Existing laws and legislation currently being passed around the world allowing for self-identification on legal documents do not differentiate between gender and sex.

The acronym TERF (Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminism) is used primarily by transactivists and their allies to denigrate radical feminists and other women who express gender critical ideas. Transactivists portray TERFs as violent oppressors by virtue of their ideas alone.

Posts of related news and web articles are welcome. Posts of photos, videos, and blogs of transactivists for the purposes of discussion and critique are welcome. Please refrain from derailing, infighting, and ad hominem attacks. This thread is not intended for the general discussion of feminism, sexuality, misogyny, or misandry.

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No. 38845

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No. 38926

I do not feel bad for murdered troons who widowed their partners. They got exactly what's coming to them.

No. 39057

Kek just found out my personality zombie gendie coworker uses a binder. It's doing nothing for her, I almost feel bad for her.



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No. 39009[Reply]

A thread for discussing issues related to IVF, gene editing, surrogacy and the concept of artificial wombs and how these can affect women individually and as a class
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No. 39029

>>39026
Should've mentioned this in my post, but I was thinking of technology such as CRISPR, where they cut out the bad genes and replace them with good ones or just "sew" the rest of the genes together after removing the bad one. So the child wouldn't carry it anymore. I was under the impression they do this in the womb, do they only do it using IVF?

No. 39031

>>39019
It’s not possible for men to give birth to a child though, they aren’t biologically designed to do such. The only role a man can have in reproduction is providing sperm. But our role in creating a child is growing your fetus during the 9 months of pregnancy and then giving birth. These two things along with breastfeeding and the whole postpartum experience are your literal physical initiation into motherhood and caring for a child; and these celebrities and other ultra-rich are feeling like they’re above that just because they can afford to pay a woman to do it for them.

No. 39032

>>39028
>Everything about surrogacy lacks the fundamentals about childbirth: love
Nonsense. Many children got abused by their mothers even when it was them that shit them

No. 39034

>>39021
I'm sure he has a hidden loli porn collection.

No. 39360

>>39021
I'm conflicted. I mean we have a chance to eliminate certain diseases forever and actually improve the gene pool. But only women should access. Men can rot with their AI waifus



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No. 31633[Reply]

A thread for blackpill feminism. Discuss heterosexual dynamics, female psychology, and the flaws of the feminist movement here.

If you disagree with the entire premise of the thread, you have no reason to enter it. Remember that entertaining disingenuous liberal feminist debate is running around in circles.

Previous thread >>30265
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No. 38804

>>38798
What the fuck is that? Come on oldfag let’s get you to bed you’re senile.

No. 38805

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>>38801
Jesus does she ever fucking shut up?

No. 38829

>>38805
She's based, I'm happy she's from boland

No. 38833

>>38829
>I'm happy she's from boland
What do you mean?

No. 38872

>>32047
imo high IQ people will always crop up in the gene pool and you don't need to select for it. It's a waste for >1% of intellect to have kids, the brain isn't set up for it.



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No. 7569[Reply]

A place to share moments in films, TV shows, clips from magazines, comics, interviews etc. that highlight radfem talking points or the insanity of trans ideology. Including points made accidentally.
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No. 36749

Any radfem podcasts?

No. 36755

>>36749
redfem?

No. 36866

>>34876
I remember the one Simpsons episode where one of the twins was gonna marry a troon, but yelled back at him saying she only liked girls. American tv used to be so based

No. 37575

>>22245
I'm inclined to agree with you nona.
This show is probably one of my favorite cartoons and while I don't think Mike Judge fully intended for it to be read in a more feminist way, the show definitely does a good job at depicting how young men can be (unintentionally) misogynistic (along with other issues) when not given any proper guidance. They're basically the antithesis of everything that could possibly go wrong in a moid's upbringing, going wrong.

No. 38750

Just finished watching the latest White Lotus episode and there is the most perfect AGP monologue from a sex-addicted white middle aged man feeling like he is an asian girl on the inside



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No. 22845[Reply]

A thread for documenting and discussing the issues of the surrogacy Industry and the harms it causes to women and children.
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No. 37566

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No. 37694

>>23734 This photo actually makes me so sick and angry. Soo fucking creepy.

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No. 38166

>>38165
This is the Gammy case, the worst thing is that the dad was a nonce

No. 38167

>>38166
>the dad was a nonce
Like a clockwork.



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