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No. 4378[Reply]

Help. I'd like to argue against transgenderism to convert my female friends. I don't want to alienate them and I don't want to sound conservative or cliched.

Here it is, plainly: for sex (biological) and gender (social) to mismatch, you have to accept the inherent differences, not of the sexes but of the social norms built onto the sexes. Sex changes are cosmetic. You HAVE to indulge in stereotyping and socialisation for there to be a disconnect. Being gender essentialist, manness is male and womanness is female, the sex must be changed to fit. But womanliness doesn't come from a male's femaleness, where did it come from? It comes from the society he lives in.
Trans people are either essentialist or hypocritical.

This doesn't sound talk about women's spaces or sports, or about how well they pass, or about anything that already has a stock rebuttal. Could I rephrase this almost socratically? Could I even hide that I'm talking about trans people, and phrase this as being about antifeminists, who they are against outright?
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No. 7017

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>>7006
I had to look this up and fucking kek no matter what ridiculous methods they use to obfuscate it, the distinction between male and female will always be made. Except this is more palatable than AFAB/AMAB, because it paints AFABs as inherently bad and AMABs as inherently good.

No. 7018

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>>7008
>>7017
it's actually amazing seeing how much these two new terms have seemingly woken up some of the women stuck in these movements. There's also been a huge meme that troons have started that completely backfired about how they had "2 options"

>become an intense misogynist/nazi

>transition

ofc, most women/poc in the same troon spaces were appalled and confused. Contrapoints himself made a similar analogy in his "incels" videos, where he pretty much relates to their experience and almost went down the same hole. picrel is a different version of the meme, but still has the main two options mentioned before.

No. 7023

>>7007
You're not trying to understand anyone at all because you're too cool to empathize with women who have wrongthink

No. 7050

>>7018
>it's actually amazing seeing how much these two new terms have seemingly woken up some of the women stuck in these movements
I think a lot of the tifs/handmaidens really thought these men would have their back as fellow oppressed for being "women". To see them actively talk about how afab aka women are NOT oppressed, but that they as amab trans are, while at the same time seeing how they benefit from being male must be such a wake up call.

No. 7389

>>7023
Nta but you make no sense
>libfems think gender isn't something that can be determined by outside witnesses like observing sex and to do so is wrong
>participate in gender reveals, which require you to determine a child's gender by obsering their sex from the outside
What is their to understand? Doublethink? Cope to think that libfem thinking is wrongthink, it is the most shilled shit ever because it maintains pro-male status quo with a veneer of pretending to be pro-women to quell rebellion while maintaining the status quo. All their is to understand is that they are hypocrites who want to have their cake of pretending to be anti-gender being assigned by others to another person, while also wanting to celebrate and be social for any small reason.



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No. 5038[Reply]

There's an /rfg/ thread that shared some good stuff but it hasn't been used in years and it's not only focused on resources. I thought it would be nice to have a place that compiles material related to radical and gender critical feminism. Content that has inspired, influenced and otherwise helped peak you. This information is not just for personal use but for anons who want quick references when they need help peaking others with reliable data. Examples of things to post in this thread:
>Links to ebooks, pdfs, news articles, videos
>Research studies
>Podcasts
>Documentaries
>Screencaps of stories or comments (posting someone's personal opinions/experiences is okay, but preferably when what they're discussing is backed by data)
Please use this thread for posting resources, summarizing their content and optionally sharing why they were helpful to you. Brief comments and questions are okay but try not to have extended discussions here; take conversations to an associated thread (i.e. article about prescribing kids hormone blockers can be discussed in trans threads, statistics about femicides in PP Revival, etc) so this stays clean and easy to browse. Asking anons if they have recommendations for resources that address certain topics is okay.
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No. 6921

>>6916
thanks nona that sounds interesting, i will try and find some more on this. it made me think of how the recent intermittent fasting craze, touted by male influencers, turned out to make a lot of women's periods go haywire. i constantly notice how society is designed for male bodies over female. the fact they've only just started using female-focused crash test dummies this year is a perfect example. medical research has always been conducted with men as the basis for clinical studies and women's reproductive health is chronically underfunded, misunderstood and ignored. educating ourselves on this as much as possible is a self-directed feminist act.

No. 6948

>>6916
wow, i had no idea that was even a thing. it's insane how little women know about our own biology. i've definitely noticed that depending on whether or not i've had my period yet i have an easier time losing weight or i feel less hungry.
>>6920
if you made a thread i would definitely be interested!

No. 6951

>>6920
Yeah, I'm definitely interested too. I'd like to keep posting interesting discoveries about women's health, but I don't think this is the right thread for it.

No. 6981

>>6948
>>6951
>>6920
I'm off for Xmas break this week so I'll try and get a thread together so I can stop shitting this one up.
Thank you for the interest!

No. 6991

>>6951
If we make a thread I can post nervous system studies! We have inverse pain responses and the largest nervous system in the human body.



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No. 6828[Reply]

why aren't feminists talking about modifying human sexual dimorphism when every thinking woman recognizes that women are oppressed because of biology?

moids managed to create toad bulls within a decade but feminists had 200 years and still didn't create an eugenic plan to make women stronger, bigger and less pickme? or at least making it possible for women to reproduce without men?

No. 6830

>>6828
Can't tell if you're baiting or retarded

No. 6832

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No. 6833

>>6830
>>6832
ok what is your long term plan for female liberation then?

No. 6844

>>6833
well, for starters I think we should remove you from the gene pool



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No. 3791[Reply]

ITT: Post screenshotted pink-pills specifically relating to troonism, non-binary and genderspecials
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No. 6820

>>6813
I wish this was actually written by an ex-fujo and not some butthurt moid.



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No. 5017[Reply]

This is a support thread for trans widow anons, or anons who dated an abuser who trooned out to either avoid accountability or trap someone.
Treat this thread like you would the vent thread; don’t snark at other anons for not seeing red flags, staying in a relationship past its expiration, etc.
We love you and you are not alone.
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No. 6548

>>6546
You’re not stupid. You were a teenager who didn’t know better. Predators pick their prey. That’s why their predators. I’m sorry anon. I hope things are better now and fuck then.

No. 6550

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>>6548
thank you anon! its very kind of you to say, it was genuinely quite a bad time in my life and i wasted a lot of time in this but i like to think it has hardened me, for better or for worse

No. 6557

>>6550
You’re welcome anon and I hope things in the future are much better for you. Don’t beat yourself up over the past.

No. 6558

I was with my boyfriend for 5 years and he trooned. He was a psychotic maladapted narcissist.
>became more and more mentally abusive, would not call me his girlfriend for the first 6 months
>would kick me out constantly and beg me to come back
>forced me to engage with his demented fetishes like pegging and chastity
>literally starts to skinwalk me with the way I dress and my interests
>has 0 hobbies, not even moid video games. Just watches youtube and browses trans shit on reddit and tiktok
>gets laser hair removal on everything except hair and eyebrows
>always confrontational (like all men) playing devils advocate and always saying shit just for the sake of upsetting me
>starts taking hormones and dressing in women's clothes fulltime. Looks ghastly
>I ran away
>he doesn't do anything except rot in his house and play out his fetish now
>I've never been happier

This isn't even scratching the surface, the amount of mental torture and abuse he has put me through is unreal and I am so much happier since I've left. His behavior is what peaked me. Reddit screenshots and TIM threads on here and the other farms came later. Nothing is as blackpilling as real life.

No. 6618

I was in a 2 year relationship with a guy who trooned and furried out 1 year in. I was in a bad situation regarding my home life when I met him so I fled to him because he was jobless and gave me attention I craved.
Even the first year dating him sucked. He drugged me, I had a bad trip from that. I'm still recovering from that to this day almost a decade later. I we probably only had PIV sex like 4 times, he came within 10 seconds each time. His best friend was a lesbian who turned into an Aiden, which is where he got his influence from. The coming months he was attached to Tumblr, following the posts of this one furry troon with a purple dragon as his persona. One day we were spending the night at his parents house and he told me he dreamt he was a sexy dragon lady. A few months in, we move into an apartment together with mostly Aidens and two gay men. A few weeks after that, he decides to buy fake tits. His Aiden BFF started throwing away her old clothing and he showed up with a shit ton of women's clothes. The thing was the fucking skirts. All of them tight and long and had stripes on them. He dressed like a typical troon would, anything to hide his man legs.
There was a time I thought I should get into makeup, and I couldn't even have my own products. I left the apartment for a few weeks to attend intensive therapy and I came back to him wearing my clothes and my makeup rummaged through. It felt so unsanitary. Also, while I was in therapy, he asked if we could open up our relationship because he wouldn't be able to see me often and I don't remember his reason, but I think he wanted to fuck other troons. He did none of that, I remember when I came back home and seeing a condom on the floor. I asked if he saw anyone, he said no, it was because he used the dildo he bought me.
One thing he did do while I was gone though, was hang out with my best friend, watch movies, get her drunk, and sexually assault her. I remember her texting me what happened because she felt bad and I said it was no big deal because our relationship was open. I should have known better. I really wasn't in the right state of mind.
I put up with this guy for about 2 more months until he said we needed to break up because I ended up hating everyone he was friends with because they did drugs. I told him I had a bad trip before, his response was it wasn't possible because he talked to someone. I did hate his friends, they wouldn't shut up about their constant use.
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No. 3915[Reply]

ITT: We discuss feminism that addresses women's class inequality along with patriarchal oppression and serves the needs of all women and not just pretentious, doughy, upper middle class university goers
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No. 6500

>>6495
I hate this kind of authoritarian "tankie" socialism too, but sadly those kinds of leftists are often the only ones who even dare to talk about GC topics.

I'm a libertarian socialist, but all libsoc spaces that I know of are so incredibly saturated with handmaidens and troon supporters that even daring to question libfem narratives will get you promptly blacklisted from all political networks and activist organizations.

I believe that there are a fair number of libsocs who are already (questioning) GCs, and a lot who are just caught in a filter bubble and could be feasibly persuaded, but the whole larger libsoc culture right now is so committed to closing rank on supporting TRA that finding like-minded people and spreading the word is really hard.

So far I've just stuck to organising for non-contentious causes I care about (workers rights/unionizing, climate/environmental issues etc) and keeping my mouth shut on gender issues, but I can see how that's surrendering in a sense. I'd welcome any suggestions on how to advocate GC in libsoc spaces without committing political suicide.

No. 6536

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>>3915
>>3928
>>3933
I actually just ordered Dilar Dirik's new book yesterday. I'm super stoked to read it; it seems like the first in-depth, English-language study on the Kurdish women's movement

No. 6537

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>>6536
Nonnies this book is amazing

No. 6541

>>6537
Thank you for the rec, let’s see if I can get ahold of it

No. 6549

>>6544
I’ll have to see if I can find it damn!



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No. 6433[Reply]

Post educators. Threadpic is seejanedrill on yt, my go-to for DIY projects

prompts: instructors on youtube, tutorial bloggers/websites, authors, journalists, educational or instructive works by historical figures. If you find yourself reading/watching someone helpful, consider posting her ITT!

(This thread is different from the content creator one because you're encouraged to post historical figures, ancient texts, etc)

No. 6439

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>>6433
Tamitha Skov is a geophysicist who makes cool informational videos about space weather.

No. 6440

>>6439
she seems really cool

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>>6440
If you're into space then you might also like Dr. Becky Smethurst, the astrophysicist youtuber. Although personally I find that she plays into clickbait content a bit too much for my taste. But no hate to her. It's hard to collect online coin by simply being good at what you do. Gotta sell it to the masses somehow.

No. 6456

I've posted her more than a few times in various threads but I really like Tibees aka Toby Hendy. She makes videos mostly about physics and math and has a lot of videos reviewing exams and stuff like that. Watching her videos makes me feel smarter

No. 6468

>>6439
I had never even heard about that topic before! Pretty cool.



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No. 4385[Reply]

With great powers comes great responsibility, J.K Rowling called it the Biological Woman's Burden. Myself, I call it as I see it: the responsibility of the woman to discipline the male.

Aunt May looks directly at the camera.

The twinks, gays, the trannies… It is our job to make them man up and serve womankind. And if we can't? Then they shall dangle alongside the 42%. The Day of the Dilation is near, Peter. We shall have every troon suicided or detransitioned in ten years, and may God send an intercinematic Universe antissemitic Goblin to blow me up with his skull bomb this very night if I'm wrong. God bless radical feminism and divine femininity

No. 4386

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>Remember, Pete: with great power comes great responsibility. J.K Rowlings called it the "TERF's burden". Myself? I call it for what it is. The responsibility of the WOMAN to discipline her male servants. The twinks, the trans… It is our mission to show they can't be one of us. And if we can't? Then they shall dangle from Spiderman's web. The Day of the Terf is near, We shall have every tranny suicided or detransitioned in 15 years, and may an antissemite goblin from a better cinematic Universe stab me with a hoverboard this very night if I'm wrong. God bless all biological females of America.

No. 4387

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Peter have you ever noticed that 96% of violent crimes are committed by men, funny huh, as If males are pre-disposed to violence and subjugation, not you pete, you and your uncle ben were one of the good one's, when the demise of the patriarchy happens you'll be kept alive and kept as an essential service males for womankind

No. 6029

>>4387 Kinda based men if you ask me. Yes we rape and subjugate and pillage. Why should we apologise for winning so much? Cope more foid cause your fantasies of women dominating men will never be real.(how did you even get here)

No. 6044

>>6029
Focus on your declining sperm counts and rising suicide rates, spermsack.



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No. 4536[Reply]

A thread to talk about the different visions that female authors have about gender in the fields of psychology and philosophy. While is true that most of these authors have male teachers or come from psychological schools founded by men, discussion about it is discouraged because this isn't the postfreudian and lacanian thread or the "Freud is a retard" thread (we already know).
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>>5301
Third author is more unknown but should be more controversial than the other two, Paul Beatriz Preciado. I was recommended this author by a TiF on Lex and while I was skeptical at first, I was pleasantly surprised. The reading of the book Testo Junkie is like an experience which I can only compare to taking shrooms and watching some surrealist films. It starts with some gross degenerate shit, which acts as a way to scare off those who aren't supposed to read further. I enjoy her theory of the pharamcopornographic regime, how gender nowadays relies on pharmaceutical technology and how nobody is natural anymore and how everything is being used to control us. She also compares and theorizes about whether you could get addicted to HRT as if it were hard drugs (her conclusion is no, but that it's nearly a religious practice). At the same time she examines how birth control pills are a societally accepted form of HRT and how they have been used to control women, how experiments were done on marginalized colonial communities and how women have been conditioned into taking a pill every day at the exact same time. How it has turned women's brains further into a prison, a panopticon and oddly enough the first bc pill containers were shaped like a panopticon (like how Atwood says you are your own voyeur). So it's not that just the school is a prison, the workplace is a prison, but even at home you're not safe. How the stopweek was invented, because the idea of a woman not having a period was seen as not feminine. Or how testosterone supplementation for post-menopausal women has been restricted, because of the attitude that it's a male hormone, even though women need it too for energy and sexual arousal. That researchers don't even consider it an option because some women in studies had a slight androgenized effect, that a single body hair here and there popped up at such a low dosage, even though it helped with depression, energy and libido. Meanwhile doctors don't hesitate to prescribe viagra to men and insurance companies have no problem covering it. Or how doctors constantly downplay and hide the potentially disastrous side effects of longterm bc pill use and even prescribe it to teenage girls without much thinking, for even things like acne, even though it can affect bone density.

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No. 5303

>>5302
The fourth author you all know and meme about, but nobody seems to read past "the male is a failed abortion" and completely ignores her call to action and other interesting points. First of all, SCUM manifesto is both satirical and serious, which makes it a masterpiece. It takes what Freud wrote and reverses the roles, but she writes much better. She also references Thomas Paine's rights of man and George Orwell. I want to highlight the parts which are often overlooked, because many women reading it want to keep the neoliberal economic system and don't understand how it's just an extension of patriarchy.
>There is no human reason for money or for anyone to work more than two or three hours a week at the very most. All non-creative jobs (practically all jobs now being done) could have been automated long ago, and in a moneyless society everyone can have as much of the best of everything as she wants. But there are non-human, male reasons for wanting to maintain the money system:
>1. Pussy. Despising his highly inadequate self, overcome with intense anxiety and a deep, profound loneliness when by his empty self, desperate to attach himself to any female in dim hopes of completing himself, in the mystical belief that by touching gold he'll turn to gold, the male craves the continuous companionship of women. The company of the lowest female is preferable to his own or that of other men, who serve only to remind him of his repulsiveness. But females, unless very young or very sick, must be coerced or bribed into male company.
>2. Supply the non-relating male with the delusion of usefulness, and enable him to try to justify his existence by digging holes and then filling them up. Leisure time horrifies the male, who will have nothing to do but contemplate his grotesque self. Unable to relate or to love, the male must work. Females crave absorbing, emotionally satisfying, meaningful activity […] What will liberate women, therefore, from male control is the total elimination of the money-work system, not the attainment of economic equality with men within it.
I think reading "bullshit jobs" by David Graeber is a good idea to elaborate on how many jobs there are which are the equivalent of digging holes just to fill them up, but Solanas said it first!
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No. 5304

>>5303
The fifth author is Emma Goldman. She is like a secret of the first wave and more based than most second wave feminists. She already said that the vote wouldn't be enough or wouldn't help at all, but the suffragettes wouldn't listen to her. The most dangerous woman in America wrote this in 1911:
>WE BOAST of the age of advancement, of science, and progress. Is it not strange, then, that we still believe in fetich worship? True, our fetiches have different form and substance, yet in their power over the human mind they are still as disastrous as were those of old. Our modern fetich is universal suffrage. Those who have not yet achieved that goal fight bloody revolutions to obtain it, and those who have enjoyed its reign bring heavy sacrifice to the altar of this omnipotent diety. Woe to the heretic who dare question that divinity!
>Nietzsche’s memorable maxim, “When you go to woman, take the whip along,” is considered very brutal, yet Nietzsche expressed in one sentence the attitude of woman towards her gods. Religion, especially the Christian religion, has condemned woman to the life of an inferior, a slave. It has thwarted her nature and fettered her soul, yet the Christian religion has no greater supporter, none more devout, than woman. Indeed, it is safe to say that religion would have long ceased to be a factor in the lives of the people, if it were not for the support it receives from woman. The most ardent churchworkers, the most tireless missionaries the world over, are women, always sacrificing on the altar of the gods that have chained her spirit and enslaved her body.
>Then there is the home. What a terrible fetich it is! How it saps the very life-energy of woman, – this modern prison with golden bars. Its shining aspect blinds woman to the price she would have to pay as wife, mother, and housekeeper. Yet woman clings tenaciously to the home, to the power that holds her in bondage.
>It may be said that because woman recognizes the awful toll she is made to pay to the Church, State, and the home, she wants suffrage to set herself free. That may be true of the few; the majority of suffragists repudiate utterly such blasphemy. On the contrary, they insist always that it is woman suffrage which will make her a better Christian and home kPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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My dad just showed me the film Agora(2010) which follows neoplatonist philosopher, astronomer, and mathematician Hypatia (born c. 350–370; died 415 AD) in her journey teaching science/peace teachings until the war between the Pagans and Christians and the burning down of the Library of Alexandria where she tried to resolve conflict using logic and reason as she had a reputation as an impeccable counsoler.
Unfortunately she was stoned and dismembered after being accused of witchcraft by Bishop. Although no direct links, evidence highly suggests his smear campaign against Hypatia had inspired it.
Some of her known works include:
Apollonius of Perga - Commentary
Book III of Ptolemy's Almagest - Editor
In the time of the fire, it is assumed she and her father worked on saving classical mathematics and sciences rather than their presents work.

I cried when watching Agora and hearing about her, she isn't as well known as she should be for one of the first female mathematicians and philosophers and her bravery.

No. 5962

>>4536
this is singlehandedly the most valuable thread on this website thanks anons



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No. 5816[Reply]

I know some might not believe me, but I have always been sex-repulsed since I was young, I never had true sexual desire for either sex, but I did have a romantic desire and liked the way men looked, more then any idea and act of sex. of course this was before I was pink-pilled and now have forgone any Idea of a romantic(and thus sexual) relationship with a man, but I still like looking at men, I go through tiktok occasionally and see very beautiful young males just doing stuff and it always puts a smile on my face, I can't really describe it cause I know I'm not interested in a romantic relationship with them and neither have any sort of sexual desire, but I just like looking at good looking male faces, Ideally they wouldn't even speak either rather just exist for my sake so I could stare at them
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No. 5951

>>5949
more or less, but I only ever fuck them if they are attractive
>>5942
I guess asexuality is the wrong term to describe me, I am attracted to males but I am generally sex repulsed

No. 5958

>>5920
i don't see why this should make you any more or less of a radfem. i can understand what you're going through, though

No. 5976

>>5942 anon. Your sexuality is ok anon. Become a radfem if that's what ur beliefs align with.

No. 7344

>>5816
I’d say if I had to be attracted to anyone, it would be men, I was always hetero except sexual. Back when I knew TIFs I identified as asexual but then I realized how warped this term became and I dropped it. I guess this name can be fitting for some but I really how how the queers changed it. And honestly I wouldn’t consider it any separate orientation (for me it’s a lack of sexuality).
I like men aesthetically but only some of them of course (those in my type).
When I was young I believed maybe one day I will have a loving husband and children, then I wanted to adopt and then I realized if I want to pursue celibacy I can’t fully trust any living man. I have male friends but realized my ideas about future relationships were very vague and only based on societal expectations. I feel much better being single.
I accept romance in fiction but when it’s not sexual (because I avoid this in media). Romance in fiction isn’t something I care much for though, so it’s only in case when it is present.



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