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No. 1821[Reply]

With the admin's verdict on /2X/ (and pink pill related topics as a whole) announced, where should farmers who want to discuss female politics head to?
The current options seem to be:
>New imageboard
>Migration to other, existing imageboards
>Migration to Reddit
As far as the first option goes, we may be able to create a space on https://8kun.top/ or https://endchan.net/ using their board creation functions. The only downside is that both places are also home to all sorts of unsavory males (virulent racists, pedophiles, pornography junkies, manosphere users, etc).
We could also create our own standalone board/site, though we'd need someone with the proper skills for that. Post any thoughts/suggestions on /2X/ migration here.
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No. 3717

>>3716
Okay, where are the links then?

No. 3718

>>3717
if the invite's expired, feel free to ask for a new one in the chat!

No. 3721

>>3698
No, it's mostly one butthurt anti-gc/pp anon falseflagging like a lunatic.



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No. 1[Reply]

This is a test-board to assess if a female space for politics will be sufficient in giving everybody what they want while removing some tension in /ot/.

This is not currently permanent but, it can be.
If this board works out then I will make it a permanent board next year. For now you all have the choice of posting in the /ot/ thread or making new threads here. It's your choice.

No. 2

/ot/ rules apply for now. If you have rule requests or any complaints then you can post about it here >>>/meta/11760
Don’t make threads targeting specific nationalities, ethnicities, or races. You can discuss policy and government all you like but don't racebait. It is a global rule violation, this isn't /pol/.



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No. 35690[Reply]

Final warning: report and ignore rulebreaking posts and ban evaders or this thread will be locked

A thread for blackpill feminism. Discuss heterosexual dynamics, female psychology, and the flaws of the feminist movement here.

If you disagree with the entire premise of the thread, you have no reason to enter it. Remember that entertaining disingenuous liberal feminist debate is running around in circles.

Previous thread >>33686
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No. 38961

>>38955
Nah penetration is worse

No. 38966

I saw a woman talk about the group of men who see women as sex robots meanwhile it's all men
Bc that's the nature of sexual desire. And all women in relationships have to be sex objects for men in them. They have to act like a private porn stars or sex workers. Bc thats female position in sex. Its completely servile. Sex has its rules and relationships are based on sexual attraction. In sex all women can do is serve.

No. 38967

>>38966
It really is disheartening, most don't want to believe it. Lots of these women spend their whole lives being fed this narrative that being a "Leave it to Beaver"-esque womanhood is the only choice they have. The women around them who are getting into relationships, having babies, etc. can make women experience a sense of insecurity and a subsequent desperation to do the same. Globally, society tells women that their worth is based on whether or not they settle with a man. The way men are vs. the narrative they've been fed causes a bad cognitive dissonance that makes lying to themselves that "not all men" are like this look much easier.

No. 38969

>>38967
Its biology kek not insecurity

No. 38970

>>38955
im going to fondle your cervix



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No. 37647[Reply]

There have been many "Radfem General" threads on here, but I have never seen one for nonas who are not radfems.

What are your reasons for not being a radfem, and what issues do you have with radfems?
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No. 38957

>>38954
I don't consider myself a radfem but I'm definitely a blackpiller, and all moids/troons acting the same is explained by biological facts and observation of our closest animal relatives. You don't need some sort of feminist theory abstraction to understand male motives, they really are not that complex, it all boils down to how most male mammals act like, and you can specially grab conclusions by studying chimps who are over 98% similar to humans. You can definitely argue that in humans you can make a male understand that for example rape is bad, and so he will suppress his sexuality in order not to rape, and this is true, but it only works as long as the male in question is aware that there are social repercussions that will happen to him if he rapes. This is why women's rights are thrown out of the window during wartime, or when women are kept in captivity like jail, or when women are homeless, etc. Men believe that they won't face social repercussions in those contexts if they rape women, thus their nature is no longer held back by human constructs, thus they rape.

Yes, you can find men who have never raped, but can you find a man who has never abused a woman in one way or the other? Most male mammals are built to see females as resources, thus they want to control women to have access to reproduction. It's why relationships are always all fine and dandy until the woman starts speaking up her mind. A female who cannot be controlled is worthless to the male, specially if she's no longer sexually available or capable, which also explains the raise of abuse during pregnancy since naturally speaking men are unable to differentiate if a pregnant woman has conceived their child or not, and being rational about it seems to have a limited impact of this.

Now that's just about the male thing, you can keep looking for "the good one" but honestly you would just be deluding yourself. Now about the troon stuff, the things I said about males apply to them in the first place (and HSTS are misogynistic in a gay man way because they are gay men). And second, you cannot change your sex with surgery and cross sex hormones. Just because of this very simple fact, troons will never be women, so there is nothing else to argue about troons, really.

No. 38959

>>38957
How do you explain women who rape other women then? Failed terf rhetoric moment

No. 38960

>>38957
>you can find men who have never raped, but can you find a man who has never abused a woman in one way or the other
Can you find a woman who has never abused a woman in one way or the other?

No. 38965

>>38957
the thing is i just dont buy that line of thinking as someone with both a BS in environmental science and a healthy, loving partnership with a male who doesnt act like a chimp

i really do understand being blackpilled because i truly was at that point for a time. i know it comes from a very real place of pain. the ideology is way of making sense of what happened to us and to make sense of whats happening in the world. a way for us to protect ourselves from being hurt again and to "save" other women from being hurt.

im being sincere when i say this, but the cure to being blackpilled truly is just getting out there, making friends irl, and trying to spend less time online in spaces where we are reinforcing our biases over and over again to an unhealthy degree. im not saying never go on lc ever again, but maybe consider that you could be reading posts written by literally anyone on here, including people who have a vested interest in creating division and culture wars.

isnt it at least a little concerning how eager right wing media is to use gc/detransitioners voices? they are just dividing and conquering us. do you really want the government to have the power to define what it means to look, act or feel like a woman? you shouldnt, if you value bodily autonomy.

i really believe the biggest problems we face are economic and structural: unfettered capitalism and systems of hierarchy (including patriarchy), which we can actually address only when we join forces and dont allow ourselves to be divided.

genuinely, go to the library or use a vpn and library genesis to read books about civil rights and social movements that go beyond the gc perspective. this is coming from someone who read andrea dworkin, kajsa ekis ekman and leirre keith btw.

No. 38968

>>38954
>Idk I just think, how can every single trans identifying person have the exact same motives, you have to have black and white thinking to believe that way.
Do you think that every person is unique? People are less original than they think and can be sorted into several archetypes. I've never seen trannies who don't fit the theory (I'm referring to the agps and hsts here).



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No. 17556[Reply]

I've noticed that in the GC community, rf and adjacent communities there are plenty of women who talked about having dysphoria (and some are detrans). So I've made a thread for this topic.
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No. 38944

>>38932
finally. imagine believing you're really male-brained when posting on lolcow is the most female-brained thing you can do

No. 38945

I think Id rather kill myself before enduring the torture of cohabiting with my looksmatch and having sex with him

No. 38946

Are there actual TIFs / wannabe TIFs lurking here instead of crazies like me though? Just curious. No idea if hating penetration counts as dysphoria or not, or if its just reverse AAP or something.

No. 38951

>>38946
>No idea if hating penetration counts as dysphoria or not, or if its just reverse AAP or something.
Depends on why you hate it to be honest. Are you a lesbian? Do you think penetration is something inherent to being female and want to escape that? Do you just find it to be gross? Could be a mixture of anything. If it causes you extreme distress though, I'd recommend checking that out.

No. 38964

is there any way to cure this shit or am i just doomed lmao



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No. 3791[Reply]

ITT: Post screenshotted pink-pills specifically relating to troonism, non-binary and genderspecials
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No. 36210[Reply]

What is the 4B movement?
>4B (or "Four Nos") is a feminist movement which is purported to have originated in South Korea in 2019. Its proponents refuse to date men, get married, have sex with men, or have children.
"Female separatism" is another term that could describe this in English.
Discuss ways women can support themselves and other women while decentering and ignoring men in their own lives. Some starter questions:
>Are you 4B?
>Have you talked to any women in your life about going 4B?
>Do you plan on moving in with women instead of trying to split cost of living with a boyfriend?
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No. 38888

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Sad this thread got so slow so quickly. Any other nonas practiced 4B and was aware of it from Korean documentaries before USA abortion bans? I'm a Canadafag and recluse but pushed myself to find more women to befriend. Met a lot of celibate women/lesbians recently through D&D. My life has genuinely changed for the better. I wish I met them sooner.

Especially seeing how nerdy male friends I grew up with turned out, I hate how I befriended moids at all in childhood. Would've saved my confidence and wish I made stronger female friendships instead of caping for edgelord moids since I was a tomboy. Anyone else had any separatism success stories?

No. 38893

>>38888
this post has me considering trying out D&D, if there are other celibate/4B moid avoiders to befriend on there.

If I may ask and if you happen to see this, how/where in D&D did you find them? Ill understand if you dont want to say outright, due to any moid lurkers.

Wish there were more places/sites to meet 4B friends in the know.

No. 38894

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found this post on tumblr and it's really peak

No. 38907

>>38894
Yup, this is exactly what put me off a lot of radfem spaces in general. Then again, as a lesbian, I’ve always noticed it. Just could never articulate it as well as this person did.

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>>38893
Didn't see this until now, sorry! Did a few meetups and found a group specifically looking for women players. Was just extremely lucky to arrive and find women my age that weren't troons or handmaidens. I'd recommend libraries/local event sites, volunteering at women's shelters, and book clubs. Also depends on how high your husbandofag tolerance is. Lesbians make up my closest friends, but shut-in women who are disillusioned or repulsed by real men and cope with fantastical delusions are more common.

Wishing you luck, nona! Every woman deserves a loving friend group. They're out there.



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No. 3774[Reply]

While all religion are awful and subjugate women, none is worse then the religion of the Arab pedophile and that is undeniable, so this is a thread to discuss its evils and crimes against everyone but especially the women subjugated under it
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No. 38722

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/03/14/religious-school-leader-ofsted-chairman-first/
This is the future of every country where Muslims exceed 1% of the population. Speedrunning into Afghanistan.
>Sir Hamid has been on the board of Ofsted since 2019 and has led Star Academies since its inception in 2010. He was previously the headteacher of Tauheedul Islam Girls’ High School in Blackburn.
>While in that role, the school became one of the first in the country to urge pupils to wear a hijab outside of school.
>Guidance reportedly told pupils to “recite the Koran at least once a week” and “not bring stationery to school that contains un-Islamic images”, such as pictures of pop stars.
>The school was criticised over a visit in 2010 from Sheikh Abdul Rahman al-Sudais, a Saudi Arabian cleric who had described Jews as “pigs”.
>Sir Hamid was knighted for his outstanding services to education in the Queen’s Birthday Honours list in 2021 and attended the King’s Coronation.

No. 38731

>>38710
>I agree Christianity and Jusdaism is also shit and the only reason it isn't as bad as Islam today is because it has been (mostly) tardwrangled by secularism.
True, I only compared these religions because of their general rules and not how they're currently applied. There are christians and jews who are just as extreme but they tend to be a vocal minority that nobody sane takes seriously. I wish it were like that with islam but there's this concept of muslims "warning" each other all the time for their wrongdoings so depending on where you live being an extremist is encouraged by society in general. My community/diaspora is usually fairly moderate when it comes to islam compared to other countries but they always try to be more religious as a way to cope with how European colonizers had an influence on our culture. You'll talk to a very moderate 3rd gen immigrant muslim who believe women should be financially independent to protect themselves from a potential bad marriage, who believe women should be free to do whatever they want and wear what they want, but then they'll start sperging if the topic of love and sex within the community comes up because "w-we're not like these degenerate white people, we're religious and believe in god!!" and the ones who believe religion should be a private thing or that women shouldn't be literally thrown in jail for having sex out of wedlock are called race traitors. I wish secularism were a thing everywhere in the world, it would solve so many issues. Holy shit I'm barely coherent.

No. 38948

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https://archive.ph/1ZIP9
>A survey of 815 British Muslim adults by Whitestone Insight asked whether they “first and foremost” identify with their faith or their nationality. It found that 71 per cent of respondents identified primarily as Muslim, while 27 per cent primarily identified as British, English or Scottish.

No. 38949

>>38595
Late but I find it so funny this was banned/redtexted while if you criticise Islam or its followers on regular 'ol /ot/ you'll get banned for you guessed it, racebaiting.

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No. 38865[Reply]

Since Ovarit is closing down, with no back-up plans from the admin, it's up to the users to archive all of its content. Archive whatever you like and post the links here!
https://ovarit.com/o/Announcements/676340/ovarit-is-closing
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‘Once she was Jan, I never thought of her as anything other than a woman’: Jan Morris remembered by her son | Jan Morris | The Guardian - https://archive.ph/YHHYl
UK Times: Truth did not figure highly in the works of travel writer and transgender pioneer Jan Morris - https://archive.ph/NYmM3
Nora Ephron reviews ‘Conundrum’ by Jan Morris. In 1974 - https://archive.ph/X6fPD
Jan Morris was a trans pioneer — and a cruel parent | News | The Sunday Times - https://archive.ph/PseFJ
Jan Morris by Paul Clements review — a biography of a brilliant but selfish life | Saturday Review | The Times - https://archive.ph/4mdTN
This one's worth repeating: Rachel Bosenterfer on Jan Morris - https://archive.ph/jgc7R

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No. 38933

someone should ask on r/archiveteam or r/datahoarder, they can upload the entire site to the internet archive in like a day

No. 38938

A Wild Mantrum Appears
https://archive.ph/zDVDd

No. 38940

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Fragility of the Male Ego Rant - https://archive.ph/puHdH



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No. 6864[Reply]

Family member trooning out? Boyfriend talking about "dysphoria"? Best friend wants to become a boy? Has someone important to you drunk the kool-aid, and you're unsure as to what to do?

Come here to grieve, give advice or just vent.
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No. 37496

>>37494
If she ever changes her mind I will do my best to pinkpill her. I'll apologize for not teaching her that being a woman is actually really cool because women are complete human beings who are capable of love and compassion.
If she ever wants to reach out to me I'd want to talk to her.
God… it fucks me up. The day she started taking testosterone she was walking with her dad and he had a near fatal heart attack next to her and needed to be helicoptered to the hospital. Looking back I feel like it was a warning. Test can increase your risk of heart disease and UGHHHH I feel like I failed…. I feel like I lost her and I'm such a piece of shit.

No. 37501

This thread is so funny(b8)

No. 37546

When I was a stupid kid I had a classmate who came out as bigender and decided I was too. I asked my mom if I would be cute as a boy and she said no and set me straight. Thank you, mom.

No. 38376

was about to post this in the oldweb /ot/ thread but realized it belongs here instead. a woman whose website I've been keeping up with for a year and pining to reach out to (I hesitated because she's clearly in sheer mental agony and I didn't know if reaching out would just burden her) just randomly "realized" she was trans. it's clearly born of her mental illness and it breaks my heart. she struck me as a kindred spirit and there's nothing I can say to her as a total stranger. no, you aren't trans, nobody fucking is. it's a philosophically inconsistent ideology. nobody will see you a certain way just because you insist upon it. you won't escape misogyny or homophobia. you will not be more comfortable in your own skin. you will never have your aap psychosexuality satisfied. but these people buy into it because of their pain, thinking it's their salvation, so they take it as cruelty if you do anything but affirm their delusions
maybe this is a bit of a sore spot for me, because every single person I've known online has gone trans in the past few years, and I don't even know where I'm supposed to find new people I would get along with. I wouldn't call myself politically captured, I don't mind befriending people whose politics differ from mine, but I have to fucking draw the line at explicit misogyny out of respect for myself. in today's cultural and political climate, what does that do to the pool of potential friends? what % of those people would actually have any chemistry with me? It doesn't look great
though it is funny to see some guy I knew (found otherkin hysterical in 2014, not a creative bone in his body, took creepshots of me and his on-and-off gf laying down together but forgot to silence his phone shutter) become a therian-adjacent hon writing trite garbage poetry and complaining with one hand about getting "catcalled". I deeply resent how web dev is cool to these dysgenic freaks now because they want to prove themselves "womanbrained". at least justice will come slowly in the form of heart disease and osteoporosis

No. 38931

has been months since I vent about trannies, but im needing to or i will start to act toxic with my friendgroup:


my rpg group has a new member and its a Tif, its so fucking pathetic and I cant deal with it anymore, i stop showing up to the games and everything.
its always something with those people, they always have some sort of mental problems like autism.
this one in special is autistic, suffering from not knowing how to act.
she is allergic to the sun and its a fujoshi of course.
always talking about how she is a "short king" like, no shit, 1.56cm its normal size for a woman.

everytime I hear her talking about how fucking punk she is and how she wants to beat some nazi, I cringe.

its insane how much this person fits the "how did you knew i was trans?" who truly believe she passes and its pathetic to see people acting she does.

nothing will change just bc you called yourself a man and straight.

you are a cringe, self centered and higly annoying girl, i just cant take it anymore.



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