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No. 4098[Reply]

Gender critical and radical feminism define gender as sociological (feminine/masculine) and sex as biological (female/male). Woman is defined as an adult human female. Radical feminists seek to abolish gender as it is used by patriarchy to oppress women socially, reproductively, and financially. They strive to preserve women's spaces (such as restrooms, locker rooms, and health care providers) and areas of artistic and intellectual expression separate from men.

Trans ideology posits that one's gender is self-determined based on one's feelings and defines woman as the characteristics and behaviors traditionally ascribed to females by society. Increasingly, transactivists are conflating gender and sex and asserting that a person can self-identify both gender and sex.

Gender critical feminists strive to maintain the distinction between gender and sex. The conflation of gender and sex erases the biological reality of women, eliminates women-only spaces, and disestablishes women as a protected class. Existing laws and legislation currently being passed around the world allowing for self-identification on legal documents do not differentiate between gender and sex.

The acronym TERF (Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminism) is used primarily by transactivists and their allies to denigrate radical feminists and other women who express gender critical ideas. Transactivists portray TERFs as violent oppressors by virtue of their ideas alone.

Posts of related news and web articles are welcome. Posts of photos, videos, and blogs of transactivists for the purposes of discussion and critique are welcome. Please refrain from derailing, infighting, and ad hominem attacks. This thread is not intended for the general discussion of feminism, sexuality, misogyny, or misandry.

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No. 6022

>>6017
What do you not like about being a woman?

No. 6023

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>>6017
Surprisingly, it was trans people that made me really appreciate being a woman.

Unrelated, I was looking up this thing among artists called Art Fight that starts next month. Lo and behold, the very first rule mentions transphobia. Not homophobia, not racism. Nice to know where the priorities are. Noped out of there real fast.

No. 6025

>>6012
wrong thread

>>6017
why "in an alternate dimension I'd be trans" and not just "in an alternate dimension I'd be a man"

No. 6026

>>6016
hi fellow mmorpg anon. i'm in an off period with old school atm but ever checked the wow generals? full of em i tell ya, full of em

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found this in the comments of a youtube video for a womens only capsule hotel in japan
there were a ton more gc/terfy comments too, it gives me hope



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No. 5384[Reply]

So I think the biggest problem with current radical feminism is that its kinda cringe and it attracts mostly cringy people who really should focus on being less cringy rather then on feminism

so first off aesthetics, a lot of current online radblr tries too borrow heavily from riotgrrl and feminist punk rock scene and the problem with that is that almost all of that scenes consisted of what we might call proto-libfems and now those women are currently promoting women like Hillary clinton and publicly supporting troons and nowadays the punk aesthetic in general is associated with baby zoomer industry plants

secondly changing the way we express male hatred, this isn't me saying "uwu don't be mean to men" rather anytime I see a radfem quote/song angrily going on how she hates men and she'll kill them, I almost die of the shreer cringe of it cause it comes across as a sixth grade nerd acting out against a high-school jock, I can't help but imagine men snickering when hearing this, knowing damm well that they could easily kill the physically weak female academic and most women with their bare hands in seconds, so it ultimately come across as pathetic Impotent rage so my solution is the way the redscarethots express male hatred, though using male supremacy rhetoric against them, "go die in war" "build a house like a real man" "real men don't spend time arguing with women" work way better then the ctingy impotent rage most radfems express

feel free to discuss more ideas to make radical feminism less cringe and improve on it
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No. 5961

normie women need to stop falling for concern trolls, they don't actually want to learn anything about feminism, they just want to waste time. also the boomers need to stop with the shitty toddler tier jokes, some of them sound like trannies when they use the fart acronym

No. 5984

Promote separatism defemale socialization and material/skill gain over "this is all the ways men have hurt women today how sad".

No. 5997

>>5984
Based. I think this is the best way to go, though I don't really think it's 'cringe'. Men shit themselves when women realise they need us more than we need them.

No. 5999

>>5997
Nta, there's a female self sufficiency server listed on the friend finder thread

No. 6004

Well be the change you want to see op. Make some memes you find uncringey.



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No. 4319[Reply]

the holy mother goddesses has erased all human males from the face of the planet however tasks you the choice to spare any male or group of males(you have to choose at least one)

My choice is Robert Maudsley
he had a childhood where he was constantly was physically and sexually abused and worked as a teen callboy, he murdered a client who had a collection of child smut porn almost immediately after he showed him, he was sentenced to life imprisonment and so murdered 3 more human cockroaches in there(2 Pedophile rapists and a wife beater who beat his wife to death)
imo he's a better man then 99% of scrotes on this planet
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Well, since the thread was bumped I’ll throw in Derrick Jensen, like we were discussing, he was horribly abused by his father as a child. I tried to read one of his books but it was just too much for me emotionally, so I’ve been listening to his podcast, he’s mostly an environmentalist but from some of what I’ve read he tries to work feminism into that since he understands that males and masculinity are evil.

No. 5982

None of them, let them all burn in the fiery pits of their sin

No. 6002

>>4319
My dad and i'd say grandad but he ded already, i'm lucky in that they're the only men who've never been abusive or cruel towards me and they're both good husbands/fathers.

No. 6003

>>5475
NTA but I also would only save my dad in the scrote purge, you sound salty it's a better answer than "muh nigul" or some random scrote you don't even know one little bit like every other answer in here…

No. 6005

>>6003
It sounds like anon wouldn't want to save any male though?

>>5475
You're describing my dad, but he manages to be even worse by having a drug addiction, taking advantage of retarded women and being on a watch list in my community. Let the purge take them.



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No. 4526[Reply]

A place to discuss and vent about pickme or fake self-serving feminist behaviour you have witnessed or experienced, online or IRL, to post cringe screenshots or memes, theories and tinfoils etc.

This is separate from the tradthot general as it’s not just for discussing particular women with particular belief systems, as there are many kinds of pickme out there. However, trad-thottery can still be discussed as it is classified as pickme behaviour.

Pick Me General #1 >>>/2X/627
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No. 5987

>>5985
sorry for being a brainlet but is this person saying modern women are evil and feminism has run its course because some women in 1000s of years old stories are depicted as evil?

mary magdalene is a saint and was one of jesus' most faithful deciples did she mean mary bethany? the prostitute who jesus washed the feet of who then renounced her ways and became a desciple and who again later became a saint
do these people have any idea what the fuck they are talking about?

No. 5988

>>5986
I'm confused how is this being a pick me ?

No. 5993

>>5987
No they're saying that this is what men think and will use to rationalize a pendulum swing against the progress feminism has made

No. 5994

>>5986
this is based

No. 5995

>>5124
I know this is a month old but I checked on her account and shes actually 35 and still trying to be so ~quirky ironically funny~ on twitter for males. Pickmes truly never win or prosper. Hope her sister blocked her permanently and lives her best life



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No. 4536[Reply]

A thread to talk about the different visions that female authors have about gender in the fields of psychology and philosophy. While is true that most of these authors have male teachers or come from psychological schools founded by men, discussion about it is discouraged because this isn't the postfreudian and lacanian thread or the "Freud is a retard" thread (we already know).
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No. 5302

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>>5301
Third author is more unknown but should be more controversial than the other two, Paul Beatriz Preciado. I was recommended this author by a TiF on Lex and while I was skeptical at first, I was pleasantly surprised. The reading of the book Testo Junkie is like an experience which I can only compare to taking shrooms and watching some surrealist films. It starts with some gross degenerate shit, which acts as a way to scare off those who aren't supposed to read further. I enjoy her theory of the pharamcopornographic regime, how gender nowadays relies on pharmaceutical technology and how nobody is natural anymore and how everything is being used to control us. She also compares and theorizes about whether you could get addicted to HRT as if it were hard drugs (her conclusion is no, but that it's nearly a religious practice). At the same time she examines how birth control pills are a societally accepted form of HRT and how they have been used to control women, how experiments were done on marginalized colonial communities and how women have been conditioned into taking a pill every day at the exact same time. How it has turned women's brains further into a prison, a panopticon and oddly enough the first bc pill containers were shaped like a panopticon (like how Atwood says you are your own voyeur). So it's not that just the school is a prison, the workplace is a prison, but even at home you're not safe. How the stopweek was invented, because the idea of a woman not having a period was seen as not feminine. Or how testosterone supplementation for post-menopausal women has been restricted, because of the attitude that it's a male hormone, even though women need it too for energy and sexual arousal. That researchers don't even consider it an option because some women in studies had a slight androgenized effect, that a single body hair here and there popped up at such a low dosage, even though it helped with depression, energy and libido. Meanwhile doctors don't hesitate to prescribe viagra to men and insurance companies have no problem covering it. Or how doctors constantly downplay and hide the potentially disastrous side effects of longterm bc pill use and even prescribe it to teenage girls without much thinking, for even things like acne, even though it can affect bone density.

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No. 5303

>>5302
The fourth author you all know and meme about, but nobody seems to read past "the male is a failed abortion" and completely ignores her call to action and other interesting points. First of all, SCUM manifesto is both satirical and serious, which makes it a masterpiece. It takes what Freud wrote and reverses the roles, but she writes much better. She also references Thomas Paine's rights of man and George Orwell. I want to highlight the parts which are often overlooked, because many women reading it want to keep the neoliberal economic system and don't understand how it's just an extension of patriarchy.
>There is no human reason for money or for anyone to work more than two or three hours a week at the very most. All non-creative jobs (practically all jobs now being done) could have been automated long ago, and in a moneyless society everyone can have as much of the best of everything as she wants. But there are non-human, male reasons for wanting to maintain the money system:
>1. Pussy. Despising his highly inadequate self, overcome with intense anxiety and a deep, profound loneliness when by his empty self, desperate to attach himself to any female in dim hopes of completing himself, in the mystical belief that by touching gold he'll turn to gold, the male craves the continuous companionship of women. The company of the lowest female is preferable to his own or that of other men, who serve only to remind him of his repulsiveness. But females, unless very young or very sick, must be coerced or bribed into male company.
>2. Supply the non-relating male with the delusion of usefulness, and enable him to try to justify his existence by digging holes and then filling them up. Leisure time horrifies the male, who will have nothing to do but contemplate his grotesque self. Unable to relate or to love, the male must work. Females crave absorbing, emotionally satisfying, meaningful activity […] What will liberate women, therefore, from male control is the total elimination of the money-work system, not the attainment of economic equality with men within it.
I think reading "bullshit jobs" by David Graeber is a good idea to elaborate on how many jobs there are which are the equivalent of digging holes just to fill them up, but Solanas said it first!
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No. 5304

>>5303
The fifth author is Emma Goldman. She is like a secret of the first wave and more based than most second wave feminists. She already said that the vote wouldn't be enough or wouldn't help at all, but the suffragettes wouldn't listen to her. The most dangerous woman in America wrote this in 1911:
>WE BOAST of the age of advancement, of science, and progress. Is it not strange, then, that we still believe in fetich worship? True, our fetiches have different form and substance, yet in their power over the human mind they are still as disastrous as were those of old. Our modern fetich is universal suffrage. Those who have not yet achieved that goal fight bloody revolutions to obtain it, and those who have enjoyed its reign bring heavy sacrifice to the altar of this omnipotent diety. Woe to the heretic who dare question that divinity!
>Nietzsche’s memorable maxim, “When you go to woman, take the whip along,” is considered very brutal, yet Nietzsche expressed in one sentence the attitude of woman towards her gods. Religion, especially the Christian religion, has condemned woman to the life of an inferior, a slave. It has thwarted her nature and fettered her soul, yet the Christian religion has no greater supporter, none more devout, than woman. Indeed, it is safe to say that religion would have long ceased to be a factor in the lives of the people, if it were not for the support it receives from woman. The most ardent churchworkers, the most tireless missionaries the world over, are women, always sacrificing on the altar of the gods that have chained her spirit and enslaved her body.
>Then there is the home. What a terrible fetich it is! How it saps the very life-energy of woman, – this modern prison with golden bars. Its shining aspect blinds woman to the price she would have to pay as wife, mother, and housekeeper. Yet woman clings tenaciously to the home, to the power that holds her in bondage.
>It may be said that because woman recognizes the awful toll she is made to pay to the Church, State, and the home, she wants suffrage to set herself free. That may be true of the few; the majority of suffragists repudiate utterly such blasphemy. On the contrary, they insist always that it is woman suffrage which will make her a better Christian and home kPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

No. 5960

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My dad just showed me the film Agora(2010) which follows neoplatonist philosopher, astronomer, and mathematician Hypatia (born c. 350–370; died 415 AD) in her journey teaching science/peace teachings until the war between the Pagans and Christians and the burning down of the Library of Alexandria where she tried to resolve conflict using logic and reason as she had a reputation as an impeccable counsoler.
Unfortunately she was stoned and dismembered after being accused of witchcraft by Bishop. Although no direct links, evidence highly suggests his smear campaign against Hypatia had inspired it.
Some of her known works include:
Apollonius of Perga - Commentary
Book III of Ptolemy's Almagest - Editor
In the time of the fire, it is assumed she and her father worked on saving classical mathematics and sciences rather than their presents work.

I cried when watching Agora and hearing about her, she isn't as well known as she should be for one of the first female mathematicians and philosophers and her bravery.

No. 5962

>>4536
this is singlehandedly the most valuable thread on this website thanks anons



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No. 5816[Reply]

I know some might not believe me, but I have always been sex-repulsed since I was young, I never had true sexual desire for either sex, but I did have a romantic desire and liked the way men looked, more then any idea and act of sex. of course this was before I was pink-pilled and now have forgone any Idea of a romantic(and thus sexual) relationship with a man, but I still like looking at men, I go through tiktok occasionally and see very beautiful young males just doing stuff and it always puts a smile on my face, I can't really describe it cause I know I'm not interested in a romantic relationship with them and neither have any sort of sexual desire, but I just like looking at good looking male faces, Ideally they wouldn't even speak either rather just exist for my sake so I could stare at them
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No. 5942

>>5920
OT but that scrote aged terribly. How come your being disgusted by sex is an issue? I personally think that since you guys are a minority and as long as that doesn't result in homophobia then what's the issue? Like I said in >>5913 it is not unnatural. I have also said people don't take you guys to well because they associate you guys with invading lgb and they think that there is an underlying reason to why you are the way you are. Like you are scared of men or feel alienated in such a pornified society. Many view you guys akin to troons. So the fact that you think men are hot but don't want to fuck them will just make many think you're attention seeking even if you're not. Sexuality is complex and many anons on here can be reductive. However none of this opinion on asexual identity is feminist. Any lady can be radfem.

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No. 5951

>>5949
more or less, but I only ever fuck them if they are attractive
>>5942
I guess asexuality is the wrong term to describe me, I am attracted to males but I am generally sex repulsed

No. 5958

>>5920
i don't see why this should make you any more or less of a radfem. i can understand what you're going through, though

No. 5976

>>5942 anon. Your sexuality is ok anon. Become a radfem if that's what ur beliefs align with.



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No. 5125[Reply]

Vent about scrotes here! Share your experiences with annoying, terrible, worthless men you've encountered. Post screenshots of men being awful. Talk about how you avoid shitty men and why.

Rules:
-Please do not respond to scrotebait. Taking bait will result in a 3-day ban from /ot/, no appeals.
-No femcel sperging. An example of femcel sperging is 'kill your father to even things out'. Posts in the vein of 'Aileen Wuornos did nothing wrong' 'rapists deserve to die' are allowed.
-No racebaiting as it derails the thread.

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No. 5924

“m-muh evil mother made me like this!” why is your sister a functioning member of society then, rape-ape?

No. 5941

i feel lighter when i get evidences or found out myself that mens criticism of women are just projections. something i just noticed is that men wont hesitate at calling women whores at the slightest when in fact the level of degeneracy and the extent of sexual reciprocity women have does not rival that of gay men. men go through hoops to get sexual excess of women no matter how promiscuous the women are while with gay men, barely any courtship is needed as we see with gay men “cruising” in public bathrooms, circuit parties, bathhouses. the animalistic sexual culture of gay men reflects men’s true sexual nature and they resent this fact and are deeply ashamed about it and they badly want to believe that women are the same. and this is also why most men are homophobic. this psychological thing also plays a key factor on why the porn industry keeps on spinning because men want to see women being degenerates so they can feel better about themselves.

No. 5944

>>5941
Yes, so happy you’ve realized this. Literally all the negative shit scrotes say about women is projection.

No. 5955

>>5941
I understand the logic but I can't say I agree tbh. Men aren't ashamed of their own depravity, they love and glorify it, and they truly see women as a totally separate, completely different species to themselves. The rules that apply to us don't apply to them and they will never see it as hypocrisy, they see it as natural and correct.

Personally I feel better when I remember that misogyny is always a cope for their inability to create life or control reproduction. We hold the fate of their genetic line in our hands, our judgement is the be all and end all, and they DESPISE it. We're never going to be able to do the 'right' thing sexually because it's impossible to give them the control they all want, and we're never going to be good enough because they can't see past their seething impotent rage.

No. 5956

>>5955
ayrt, my previous post on that part was worded so badly. what i meant to say was that since women apparently is “on top of the sexual food chain” and have a supply of potential sexual partners, women would want to act like how gay men would act. they project the kind of activities they would do if they were on top of the sexual food chain on to women.

but also it’s no doubt that men do see us as seperate beings.
anyways, dworkin is brilliant and that theory verily explains the troon phenomenon.



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No. 3774[Reply]

While all religion are awful and subjugate women, none is worse then the religion of the Arab pedophile and that is undeniable, so this is a thread to discuss its evils and crimes against everyone but especially the women subjugated under it
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No. 5833

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I've spent the last 20 years of my life in hijab and modest clothing and I feel like I've wasted my youth. Rarely had friends, never had a boyfriend, and I still live with family. I've been daydreaming about the life I could have lived had I never worn the hijab.

It's hot as hell in my city and I can't do much about it. God, I wish I was normal.

No. 5834

>>5833
Same as you, do you have any plans to escape from your muslim family/community

No. 5835

>>5834
I've tried and failed to go back to school. It's so hard to get a higher paying job.

I refuse to join the military or get into sex work.

No. 5842

>>5835
No one has advocated you do that, like what's your current situation

No. 5855

>>5835
Part time work at retail, close to paying off credit card debts. Flunked out of school at age 25. Still live with family, no friends, borderline NEET life

looking to gain a remote work tech job



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No. 3821[Reply]

ITT: We discuss and share resources for realistic and practical self defense
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No. 4181

>>4124

BJJ is a fantastic choice. Go for it! I share your sentiments about some MA feeling like a meme. But grappling is a lot more practical to know than striking in a real situation so I think it’s great for self defense. Plus you can combine grappling skills with the insanity strategy! please do go try out BJJ if you’re on the fence. Get strong and learn how to efficiently choke men. It’s a fun sport and people are chill in it in my experience.

No. 4284

>>4171
Is it gel or air?

No. 4298

>>4181
I would also add that if she has time for it, martial arts with striking aren't entirely useless. Men will almost always have more raw physical strength, but regularly sparring so you aren't scared of taking a hit really does wonders. I've known too many women who have literally gasped in shock and said "oh I could never do that" when they hear I spar and get hit/bruised/knocked around on a regular basis (not to the point of lasting injury, but still). Not trying to humblebrag, of course there are psychos that will come after you no matter what, but interviews and studies on rapists have shown they look for easy targets. You don't want to be the woman who turns into a meek sobbing mess after one smack. They typically go after those who seem like they won't put up a fight, and knowing you can get loud, take a punch and keep standing will give you more confidence. I personally recommend muay thai. Elbows and knees give you four extra weapons and they're hard and bony, so even with moderate use of force they tend to cause good amounts of pain.

No. 4366

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>>4171
My dad did too, but I wanted a gun. Picrel is what I want.

No. 5781

>>4092
Shit, I'm so late…



No. 4635[Reply]

thought it might be cute to start a 2X related music thread… share any songs you love that are anti-moid! any genre, from light hearted funny songs to straight up murder anthems

i'll start out the thread by sharing a few of my favorites!

dixie chicks/the chicks - goodbye earl
>she held wanda's hand and they worked out a plan and it didn't take them long to decide
>that earl had to die… goodbye, earl
>those black eyed peas, they tasted alright to me, earl
>ya feelin' weak? why don't you lay down and sleep, earl
>ain't it dark? wrapped up in that tarp, earl?
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No. 5381

>>5362
that is just a lot of cringe, I swear do western feminists have a law that states they have to out do each other in amount of cringe

No. 5397

>>5381
>rape victim creates vent art
>"WAH CRINGE WESTERN FEMINISTS!!!"
Do you ever get tired, Paki-chan? Can you go suck Nazi scrote dick "shitpostily" on another website?

No. 5428

My Ruin peaked with this song, wish they made more.

>Terror, this is what you call me.

>I strike terror among men.
>I can't be bothered by what they think
>I bear my cross my soul myself
>I forgive but I never forget.
>I've been put upon this Earth in female form,
>But I can handle myself from the best of you.
>As well as the worst

No. 5774

>Save your breath for someone else and credit me with something more
>When it comes to men like you
>I know the score
>I've heard it all before

god i love miki berenyi

No. 5780

>>5122
Late why did you censor die, this is not TikTok here we can say adult words lol.



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