/2X/ - (XX)

>>39785
Okay. How is choking a guy while you’re riding him submissive if you’re not doing it only because it was his idea, which I can literally compile screenshots of anons talking about doing this? What if you just see an attractive guy, want to see him tied up because it looks attractive, and you were violent towards him because you think his reactions of pain or discomfort are attractive? Please stop fucking denying my experience. I don’t care if most women are sexual masochists, I think it’s because of social shit like how tranny ideology spread like a contagion because women are capable of getting aroused by other things. Femdom has never gotten popular, only shit that’s meant for males who want a kink dispenser in latex which is fucking cringe. Doesn’t mean that it’s impossible like how the community of “dysphoric” (confused) women here who only started because they’re copying you. Instead of being empathetic you just want to hate female sexual desires and your own sexual desires as much as possible. Don’t be a fucking masochist. Don’t continue to condition yourself to be a fucking masochist. I’d rather look at certain femdom porn than stare at sadistic male porn as much as you do.

I regularly see this messaging about marriage when I’m minding my own business. How do women live like this.

>>40325
Then people will be like choose better like no woman would choose any moid if women had any kind of standards

>>40325
>How do women live like this.
Lots of women support prostitution, not all but a good portion.

I don’t know if this would go better in a cow thread but thoughts on the decentering men influencers?

https://youtu.be/NClyDPT0e-s?si=qv98LO63yma0FMoA

In case you see MRAs using the CDC reports to argue that women commit sex crimes at the same rates as men, the first thing you need to look for are the definitions used in the questionnaires around the overlapping categories of sexual victimisation explored in the reports.

As you can see in the image, sexual coercion (which is evalutated in both sexes) is defined as being made to have vaginal oral or anal sex as a reuslt of being pressured through the following tactics :

> Telling lies
> Making promises about the future they knew were untrue
> Threatening to end the relationship
> Threatening to spread rumors

Ask yourself now how many men would be considered rapists by that same definition ? I would personally say more than half at least. It's quite obvious how broad this definition is and it's important to keep in mind that this question is going to be used to generate responses for other types of sexual victimization like rape and being made to penetrate (which is why I said overlapping at the beginning)

The interesting part for the CDC reports is that even when taking into account this broad definition, which inflates the rates of assault in both sexes, the MRAs still can't ignore an important fact that is that the results show that women experience higher rate of exual victimization compared to men.

Based on the numbers provided statistics by asking each victim of sexual contact violence and/or stalking about the sex of their perpetrator(s) in the CDC report National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey 2016/2017: Report on Victimization by Sexual Identity :

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>>39146
They see women's fantasies as rape fantasies because they view penetration as a passive act and they think rape survivors were also "passive" and just gave in.

>>39342
Wheres the lie?

>>39146
You can get raped on top retard. God why feminists are so retarded

>>39348
Kill yourself.(a-logging)

>>37929
>>39173
best i could find

which way, male?

>>38690
go back

always going to regret the one time i tried to have sex with a man because i wanted to prove how heckin' valid i was as a "gay trans man" (despite only ever having sex with other women and tifs before)

thankful i got cold feet. dude took his pants off and i excused myself to just…go home. lol. we kissed a bit before and the entire time i wanted to throw up. i cannot believe i tried to convince myself i wasn't a lesbian for years after this incident.

>>36030
ashamed enough to admit i'm one of those zoomer women. last chronically online group i hanged out with before peaking consisted of two horny tims, one of which lost all of his friends for pretending to be a dog, a smartass tif who was convinced she was a mastermind of american politics even though it just consisted of stuff she got from high school and tumblr, and like two or three autists who were incapable of saying anything that wasn't a meme. prolly should go in the personal cows thread but whatevs.

Maybe being female isnt so bad at all
>I have a recessed jaw which is a death sentence for men but not so bad for women
>I can live in my mom's house forever and nobody would judge me for it
>No hormones making me horny for the opposite sex despite being genetically inferior and undeserving
>Women who are single are happier than men who are single
>I (hopefully) won't bald
>My friends aren't so bad
>Being a loser isn't so bad
>My quality of life as a woman exceeds my quality of life if I was a man

>>30648
I did this shit with my friend in high school and shes ghosted me forever and has gone no contact

anyone have any good podcast or video recs?

One thing I find disconcerting is gender critical feminists aligning themselves with figures on the political right, I think it makes sense pragmatically on practical issues like certain acts of legislation and keeping troons out of women's spaces but we shouldn't kid ourselves into thinking they're our friends. When push comes to shove, the right will take the side of trannies over women because they are both misogynist - from /pol/tards claiming "trans women are better than real women!" to conservatives who'd rather they had a tranny child than a lesbian one.

>>10587
yes and this has also led to right-wing people calling themselves radfems or gender critical feminists when they still believe in femininity, the patriarchy etc..

>>10587
>>10611
100%. just because someone is anti-trans or anti-porn doesn't mean they are radical feminists. I grew up in a conservative christian patriarchal misogynist environment so I know that first hand (everyone around me hated trannies, thought porn was evil even if they consumed it, and they sure as shit hated women), but it seems like women who grew up in more liberal households don't know or something and get sucked into supporting right wing misogynists because they share one or two opinions on controversial topics. sometimes I feel like peoples pattern recognition is broken here or I'm taking crazy pills or something.

>>10587
>I think it makes sense pragmatically on practical issues like certain acts of legislation and keeping troons out of women's spaces
doesn't seem very pragmatic to me to trade stuff like reproductive rights etc for the tranny stuff.
>>10611
>>10629
exactly, god i hate this shit so much, just look at amount of replies in the "feminationalism" (lmao) thread on here vs this thread (although to be fair a bunch of those replies are people infighting kek). brainwashing and propaganda from the right is extremely prominent especially online.

>>38505

How bad is it exactly for you ?

>>37308
Tradwives don't exist anymore. Unless you count 80+ geriatrics.

>>39154
they don't even exist now, it's just larping

>>39154
They exist in very religious communities, and many more traditional or 3rd world cultures across the world. Many women also get hoodwinked into a 'tradwife' lifestyle if they are financially dependent on their husband or babytrapped. Idk how y'all are defining the term tradwife because a hell of a lot of women are stuck living these sorts of lives today, no matter their age. The majority of marriages consist of the woman bearing the brunt of the domestic labour and taking care of a manchild, the main difference between the past and now is that the wives now are also taking on jobs and bringing the income simultaneously.

>>39389
Part of me believes that this whole trend is merely the natural progression of the soft life mindset where a bunch of women fantasize about doing nothing in life and hoodwinking men into giving them the princess treatement and doing nothing beside chilling and vibing at home, while occasionally doing some softcore chores like baking a cake. It's quite easy to see how this is nothing short of an unrealistic fantasy built on many wrong assumptions, the main two being :

> Men will have no issue providing anything their wives wishes for to maintain their comfort

> Taking care of the house and raising children (even more than one) is much easier than office jobs

>>38888
this post has me considering trying out D&D, if there are other celibate/4B moid avoiders to befriend on there.

If I may ask and if you happen to see this, how/where in D&D did you find them? Ill understand if you dont want to say outright, due to any moid lurkers.

Wish there were more places/sites to meet 4B friends in the know.

found this post on tumblr and it's really peak

>>38894
Yup, this is exactly what put me off a lot of radfem spaces in general. Then again, as a lesbian, I’ve always noticed it. Just could never articulate it as well as this person did.

>>38893
Didn't see this until now, sorry! Did a few meetups and found a group specifically looking for women players. Was just extremely lucky to arrive and find women my age that weren't troons or handmaidens. I'd recommend libraries/local event sites, volunteering at women's shelters, and book clubs. Also depends on how high your husbandofag tolerance is. Lesbians make up my closest friends, but shut-in women who are disillusioned or repulsed by real men and cope with fantastical delusions are more common.

Wishing you luck, nona! Every woman deserves a loving friend group. They're out there.

On the same note as >>38893 how does one meet well-adjusted non-moid centered women irl? I live in a very liberal city, and I swear it’s the worst in a special way because people here just stick to their privileged liberal enclaves (most people here are college educated and at least middle class) so they’re under a false sense of security. As a result libfem and gendie rhetoric runs wild and anything that goes against it gets you labeled as whatever phobic.

First one is when moids bring up that men's domestic abuse shelters were closed by rabid feminists, specifically bringing up Erin Pizzey.
Here is an excerpt from Pizzeys own book that shows the real reason why mens abuse shelters don't work out.

>>37719
I remember this, but forgot the names involved. Thanks, anon.

>>37719
Which book is this from?

>>37995
Don't really care if you're baiting me or not, but I have considered that. The people I'm most attracted to are ftms/transmascs and non-transitioning gnc women, as well. As much as radfems love to cry and scream about how "the deluded tifs are mutilating their bodies!!1!!1!", I just don't think that there's anything wrong with a female living their life like that. Any legitimate grievances that radfems have with trans people's behavior are obfuscated by the belief that their existence is inherently unnatural (very reminiscent of the Christian appeal to nature fallacy!). It's all so tiresome. One of the main things that made me lose interest in taking T is that it would make me even more vulnerable to medical discrimination than I already am. What bothers me the most nowadays is not my own body, but rather the behavior that every other female around me exhibits. Why do you obsessively shave everything below the neck? And more importantly, why do you expect the same of me? My own mother used to "gift" me razors in front of my entire extended family at Christmas parties. I recently befriended a few gender critical (tirf?) females on T over the internet, and they're the people I feel the strongest connection to. I just wish I had friend like that in real life. Anyways, tangent over.

>>38055
T will give you a clitdick abomination that will hurt in any kind of bottoms, you will develop the worst cystic acne of your life, and you will smell like a rotting animal. If you enjoy that for a few halcyon years, it will still result in stroking out and turning into a minimally conscious retard bc that poison gives us bloodclots. Just stop being another self-obsessed navel-gazing coward, lift weights to sculpt yourself into a goddess who can crush people in half with her terrifying muscles, and make friends who aren't on the internet. If you have an opinion that hurts their feelings, if won't matter bc you've naturally sculpted turned yourself into a minotaur.

>>6960
>>37329
Why can't we criticize this religion? Like I am antireligious but still

>>6960
I refuse to assimilate in this patriarchal society.
I want to create my own culture, without patriarchal influences.
I want to create my own country, instead of living in Poland or any other Western or Eastern patriarchal country.
I know one feminist conlang, but no matriarchal country.
I refuse to interact with most men, because most of them are poisoned with matriarchal abrahamic religions and pornography.

>>14512
>I suppose many of these types of women do not actually believe in what content they put out or internalize it. once you truly understand what males are their attention on you is rather laughable.
This is exactly what's going on: she couldn't be bothered to apply the theory to reality and chose to entertain the flirting with an engaged man. Look at how there's no mention of his fiance either in these journal entries. It's all just me me me I love attention that I'm getting right now - yet in a matter of weeks she changed the narrative to claim she was "abused and charmed" and spends her nights crying on the bathroom floor. She also claims to be totally over the situation but can't stop making sly little videos and posts about it.
Tbh there is one good thing about this situation and it's that both KC and LM now have huge red flags over their heads. The former is an autistic unemployed unfaithful scrote and the latter is a spineless attention-seeking homewrecker who can't even muster up any sympathy to the women she hurts. Any person with standards and morals will hopefully steer clear of these idiots in the future. I hope KC's (now hopefully ex) fiance can move on and be happy.

Did anyone happen to see if anything else went down with LM yesterday? She’s deleted a lot of stuff now kek

I'm the person you banned months ago and while I still stand for what I said (criticism of any movement is healthy for the movement itself, or else it cannot be self aware. And more than ever there's more fucking right wingers in radfem spaces) I'm back to being a radfem terf manhater. Long story short I had a mental breakdown where I thought I was going to be exposed and everyone would hate me and I would lose my job because someone told me the lolcow staff had ties to the troon who attacked this site before and I believed it. And I thought I would be harassed and followed. I was in a panic and I'm not the sanest of people. Anyway that was the reason. I'm not anti radfem, pro tranny, or a male. That's all, Goodbye.

I hate coming across interesting threads only to find they've been inactive for months. Regardless, i wanted to share my thoughts on the ex Radfem matter.
There are times where i've distanced myself from GC/radfems over troon obsession but i always realize it is everywhere and it's a major anti-feminist force. But there are bizarre/repulsive things in the movement i simply can't accept. Like millenial radfems seething over younger women/girls in the movement, making degrading comments on their bodies (on radblr, for example) or being pretentious. I've come to realize it's their way of dealing with bitterness and assume a 'mother' role of sorts. Pseudo-familial hierarchies are incredibly suspicious. Separatists would be the worst offenders but i also see this in more normie radfem groups.
I think that the deeper problem resides in how we define 'politics'. Politics is acting on the real world, incl. your intimate life but especially on women around you, in the workplace, in your 'community' . It's great if feminism makes someone leave their mediocre nigel or shave less or whatever but it's not political, at least not to the degree of actively supporting other women. This confusion between personal choices and politics is so deep that even in this thread, we see anons who otherwise fully agree on cultish tendencies argue over husbands. Yes, marriage is servitude but a married woman who volunteers for women or fosters independence in her daughters/friends is an effective feminist. It's nowhere near what we could do, but still.
Imo it's also why the obsession with who we date, makeup and apparent femininity is so prevalent in radfems. It's easy to pat yourself on the back for not wearing makeup, chastise women who do, it's harder to challenge the mean girl mentality which is ironically extremely girly. Radfems' denial of their own, deeply entrenched femininity is super fascinating to me.
I'm just confused by the anons who hate even the idea of platforming our ideas to the wider public. I don't know how to break it but the average person is right-wing, even if they think of themselves as moderate. There's a nonna who kept mentioning people who'd be turned off by GC moms. But who, exactly? I know for a fact normies do not care for trans acceptance and don't care about accusations of 'tradthottery'. I also know that your average libfem has zero political sense beyond sharing nice posts online. Politics (again, action) isn't a game of finding peoPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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