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No. 369491

>FUJOSHI (腐女子, "rotten girl"): a self-mockingly pejorative Japanese term for female fans of manga and novels that feature romantic relationships between men.

>Discuss yaoi and BL here, as well as other media aimed at (or with fanservice for) fujoshis.

>Discussion of BL games here is okay, but please do not cannibalize the otome game general.
>Discussion of Male/Male ships outside of strictly BL series is allowed, try to avoid divisiveness between slashers and classic fujos.
>No straight shit, there are other threads for that.
>Feel free to ask for recommendations, but specify what kind of material you're looking for (Genre, oneshot/series, doujinshi, SFW/NSFW etc).
>Being reasonably critical of BL is welcomed but don't come here only to bait or excessively moralsperg about fujos or how much you hate BL as a genre. Take it to Twitter.
>Be mindful of others and hide your spoilers. Use the spoiler image option and wrap your text inside spoiler tags.
>Reminder to ignore the baiting males and trolls who come to provoke.
>Keep the armchair psychology to a minimum, we've heard it all before.
>Be nice to each other, we fujos should stick together.

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No. 369501

(Reposting since we literally hit thread limit when I asked) Rec me your favorite college BL/yaoi, please! If it's pretty mundane, even better.

No. 369502

>>369497
I couldn't get into Sleeping Dead until that last chapter when shit hit me like a truck, which is generally how I feel about Asada Nemui's work. I sort of wonder if she's a cinephile, because the pacing and beats of her completed works often end up feeling more like movies than your traditional BL.

No. 369503

really. shitty threadpic again?

No. 369504

>>369503
At least this one is funny.

No. 369505

>>369504
Maybe I'm wrong but I feel like it's been used before?

No. 369506

>>369505
same here, we had good suggestions last thread but they weren't used.

No. 369510

>>369503
I like it it's funny

No. 369514

>>369503
Damn and I wanted to make one with NTY art to stoke the flames of controversy. Cook faster next time ig

No. 369516

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Fuck this thread pic I wanted Fujiyoshi…

No. 369521

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I'm playing subahibi and the homo blowjob scene got me super hyped up

No. 369523

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>>369505
I don't think it has been. I think it was just posted in another thread, but it does look familiar.
>>369521
Having to physically restrain myself from completely derailing to rant about Subahibi, but by design and personality, Takuji was absolutely built to be the protagonist of a yaoi game, but somehow, he got trapped in a galge. Hope you enjoy the rest of it. It's one of my most favorite VNs of all time.

No. 369529

>>369502
I assume this worked because she knew she could make a 2 volume long BL from the start while most BL last for one volume and sequels are decided after the publishing companies decides that sales were good enough.

No. 369531

>>369523
>by design and personality, Takuji was absolutely built to be the protagonist of a yaoi game
If he was he would 100% jack off more than every other yaoi protagonist combined.
>Hope you enjoy the rest of it.
Right now it's at about a 9/10 for me, so hopefully it'll stay at that haha.

No. 369532

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Thoughts on Akagawa Sagan? I had extra cash this week so I bought two of her works because I thought her art style was nice, I bought pic related and Shikabane to Hanayome. Wanna just know if I made a bad financial decision kek

No. 369535

>>369532
read the mangas and see it for yourself

No. 369555

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>>369514
promise you'll do it next time

No. 369556

>>369555
>>369514
You NTYfags are insufferable

No. 369559

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>>369556
projection

No. 369567

Nonnas I need some good psychological/drama or even horror bls. Especially if they're long-ish, the art is good and there are many hot men. I also need more bl stories whith a strong focus on an original plot and the yaoi romance more on the side but there aren't many like that.

No. 369572

>repulsive scrotes in the pic again
I swear there is some retard trying to start fights on purpose with this

No. 369573

>>369555
I pinky promise if I get the chance
>>369556
I've never played NTY or Slow Damage kek

No. 369576

>>369572
kek why do you hate the ancient fujo

No. 369580

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>>369572
Seek help.

No. 369582

>>369580
Kinpri season 2 when. All Bravern did was make me miss Kinpri

No. 369587

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>>369567
You didn't specify a medium, so you're getting mostly VNs and a few manga from me because that's what I know. I tried not to include too many titles because that can be annoying. Hopefully, some other anon can recommend something better kek.
-Hashihime of the Old Book Town: Excellent psychological/mystery VN with some interpersonal drama thrown in. It's tagged as horror on VNDB, but it's pretty light on horror. It's set in the 1920s; the protagonist (who is the best character) works at a used book store because he's a massive disappointment and got kicked out of his boarding house; he spends his days writing shitty fiction and annoying his friends. His friends start dying suddenly, and he's thrown into a situation where he has to figure out why it's happening. Sorry if this is a poor summary; I can assure you this is a great VN with well-written characters, an intriguing mystery, and lovely art. 30ish hours long.
-sweet pool: Body horror VN with a lot of cosmic horror elements. The protagonist begins to undergo physical changes he does not fully comprehend, and begins to doubt if he can even trust his own thoughts. The people around him seem to be losing their minds, and the protagonist is forced to contend with a horror far beyond his control. It's tagged as 'psychological horror,' so it may scratch that itch. 10ish hours long.
-Sakura Gari: Psychological/mystery manga set in the 1920s about a student who goes to live with a mysterious benefactor who's very obviously hiding something from him. There are a lot of twists and turns, and it's a decent length, but not long. It's more of a psychological drama with some mystery than horror. I loved the art and atmosphere, but that's subjective.
-Lkyt: Might not be exactly what you're looking for, but this VN does fall under the 'drama' category, and does have some horror elements (it's heavy on gore and focuses on an apocalyptic setting). The story centers around soldiers in a fantasy world tasked with fighting off a never-ending horde of demons, so the story has a pretty somber tone. I'm a fan of the art, especially the CGs. 20ish hours long.
-Hitori to Hitori no 3650nichi: I went pretty heavy on horror recommendations, so this one is just a regular drama with heavy psychological elements thrown into the mix. I like the art in this, although it's a short title. It's a collection of two short stories dealing with interpersonal drama; it's more grounded than the others on this list. It was a little too melodramatic for my taste, so I didn't love it, but it fits what you want.

No. 369589

>>369567
twittering birds never fly, acid town, nty, rn9 also good if you like your psychological horror extra horny

No. 369590

>>369572
it's a funny pic tbh, it's a fujo in action

No. 369594

>>369587
Oh my anon thank you for taking the time to write summaries too. I already know of sweet pool, lkyt and Sakura Gari, haven't played lkyt yet however. Your first vn suggestion sounds super interesting to me so I'll have to check it out!
And I know your last suggestion too but I also think it's a little too melodramatic and grounded.

>>369589
Thank you too anon! Twittering birds never fly is and old one for me, nty and rn9 are some of my favourites but I'll have to check out Acid Town, I see it recommended often.

No. 369601

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>>369594
highly recommend acid town, if you liked the other 3 it'll be right up your alley!

No. 369627

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>>369501
Who can define popularity is my favorite college romance webtoon. It's a very funny narcissist x narcissist rivals to lovers story with both likable main characters and cool side characters who get just the right amount of screentime (so you care about them but they don't sidetrack the main romance).

No. 369631

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Recs for other manga with comically persistent/scary love interests like Jinsei Keikaku of the end? Doesn't matter if he's the uke or seme, as long as the tone isn't too heavy while he's almost delusionally persistent and the other guy either gets pathetically worn down by it or hates it while being scared of him. Another example of this that I like is Oh My God.

No. 369632

Does anyone know where I can find a nucarnival gallery? there's no way nobodys archiving character cgs and events

No. 369634


No. 369639

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>>369631
I think the artist of your first example has a few more like that, have you read all her works already? Maybe you'd like A Blessing in Disguise or Drugless Sex 2 (focuses on a couple from the first one) by Enzou? The very first one I thought of was Spend Wisely by Niyama but that one turns very wholesome and mutual quickly. Two in Six Billion by Denzou might fit, but it has a more serious tone

No. 369652

>>369639
I actually haven't checked out her other work (just recently found her through that anthology of middle aged men getting sexually harrassed). Good to know her type lines up with mine kek, I'll check out your other recs too. Thanks!

No. 369665

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Tadaima, Okaeri got an anime and it's cracking me up how the crunchy synopsis never mentions that it's an omegaverse. This reads like it's a wholesome but real feel good story about a gay couple raising their child in Japanese society when in actuality the "prejudice" they're talking about is over the blonde one being an omega, kek

No. 369671

does anyone have any professor/teacher x student dynamic BL recs? preferably dark, predatory teacher kind of thing. sorry for spoonfeeding request but its something ive been craving recently

No. 369684

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>>369665
It's not the first time Crunchy made their content appear more palatable.

No. 369687

>>369671
Since when is asking for recs in an /m/ thread spoonfeeding kek

No. 369690

>>369684
Kek I saw that the other day and was kind of surprised.

No. 369692

>>369684
I feel like Super Lovers is still more grounded than tricking people into watching mpreg. Incest is par for the course for anime/BL and the other is… kek you never expect to see ABO in the mainstream

No. 369707

Tried playing What In Hell Is Bad.
Regret.
There was so much shit in it that made me uncomfortable, I pity the target audience. Their taste is PEAK rotted filth. Every kink I bully a person for was in the "tutorial" before you could even get to the main menu.
Don't get me started on the art. The designs are trash (nothing DEMONIC about any of these fucking demons. Just Kpop idols with cosplay horn headbands), and the art for Satan is hard to look at without laughing. It's just Shiver Splatoon genderbent with a tiny-ass neck.
I THINK it counts as BL? I played it with a male protagonist and heard it originally was designed for such. Sincerest apologies if not.

No. 369708

>>369707
i don't think this subject matter belongs here, nobody cares that they supposedly had an option for male pronouns esp since it was broken as hell and used female pronouns at times, no male is actually playing it probably it's really only TiFs who wanted it, and in none of the graphics do they actually depict homosex, just crop out the good parts and it could just be a woman or man. feel free to discuss this in the games thread tho.

No. 369709

Can anyone rec any sci-fi BL? Preferably where one of the MCs is a scientist if that isn't too niche kek

No. 369712

>>369708
Thanks for the heads up. I only could stand it for an hour so this is all new to me.

No. 369716

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thread pic suggestion kek

No. 369719

>>369709
There are so few sci-fi BL works. A shame because I love the genre, especially if it's the kind with vintage futuristic vibe.
Off the top of my head I can remember a oneshot from Azuma Kaya called Kuzureru Tenbin, Iimo's Perfect Planet, a oneshot called 2055 and Starfighter (this one's western). There's also Ai no Kusabi but that's old and idk if it fits.

No. 369722

>>369719
Thank you so much nona, I will read those! I also love the aesthetics of retro sci-fi, I hope there are mangakas in this thread looking for inspiration…

No. 369724

>>369719
>Starfighter
this one brings me back kek, i got into this comic after some nightcore used it as a background and for the longest time G.U.Y. by Lady Gaga made me sad bc i'd remember the sad ending but that was before i realized i don't care about any moid, 3d or 2d.

No. 369730

>>369709
Sleeping Dead kek.

No. 369771

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more threadpic material

No. 369774

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>>369771
samefag, also this

No. 369783

>>369709
UUUltraC is a very light science fiction VN; there's no hard science, but it's themed around aliens and has a retro-futuristic vibe. Moritat is a manhwa that fits the genre; I'm not a big fan of manhwa, but I found it more pleasant than most; it has some mystery and thriller elements, though, if you're not into that. Blue Nathanael is a short but decent manga. It's a military sci-fi between guys on the opposite sides of a military conflict, but it's too short to fully develop. There's also a western VN called Chasing the Stars, but I haven't played it yet and can't comment on quality. One of the love interests is a scientist, though, which is the only reason I'm bringing it up.

No. 369808

>>369771
>>369774
>filenames
So are you with us or against us? Why are you posting in the fujocringe thread?

No. 369820

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>>369808
Selfhating fujos I guess?

No. 369872

Today I remembered that this exists

No. 369875

>>369808
Probably some anon baiting here so she can post non-milky caps in the fujocoomer thread so she can call us pedos without reason.

No. 369876

>>369875
and that thread's true purpose is to provide caps for fujochan's antifujo cringe thread, we've come full circle.

No. 369877

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>>369709
Marginal

No. 369878

>>369877
The is the one with the hermaphrodite male pregnancy right?

No. 369887

>>369716
>dramatical murder came out in 2012
i know technology has developed at a rapid speed but did pcs look like that in 2012? i used to have a pc like that but i cant remember what year i got rid of it lol i feel old now

No. 369888

>>369887
Nah we already had laptops and tablets in 2012. I know because I was studying IT in 2012 and those big bulky computers were already old and kinda rare.

No. 369890

>>369878
Kek yes. But the story and setting were genuinely good imo and very interesting, making me crave more yaoi with complex plotlines. I'm so sick of the school, office, and other boring mundane settings. I also really liked the one guy with sunglasses who thought he was straight and was into a woman living on the moon, but he ended up falling for the long black haired man. Wish it actually went somewhere.

No. 369892

>>369878
Nyart but yes. However it's not done for fetishism or because it's cute, it's because it's a dystopian sci-fi story and I think it was inspired by Dune.

Moto Hagio is a cool woman who dabbles into absurd themes even in her shoujo manga. I always wanted to read stuff from her.

No. 369893

>>369808
no these showed up in the front page and i thought these were hilarious, and i think we've been repeating our threadpics so i thought we needed new suggestions kek
>>369820
also threadpic material

No. 369894

>>369892
>>369890
but it still ultimately has a "pregnant male" being the future of humanity.

No. 369897

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>>369631
How about Memeshii Aku To Azatoi Suh? It wasn't my thing but it sounds exactly like what you're describing.

No. 369908

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>>369631
Tashiro-kun kimi te Yatsu wa is about a "creepy" guy who pushes and pushes until the uke has no choice but to give in. It's really funny since the author mainly writes comedies.
In Saiaku no Jinsei the MC is hopelessly in love but the other guy isn't into men at all. He agrees to date him in the end but he's still visibly hesitant for the most part.

No. 369915

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is Lkyt any good nonnas? I liked No Thank you and saw that the studio also came out with this, so I wanted to give it a go. Wanted to ask before dropping the $

No. 369916

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>>369894
It's a fucked up and depressing sci-fi shoujo manga in a world (unsurprisingly) inspired by arab culture and where women seemingly went extinct. Maybe you could read it instead of assuming it's just mpreg in the future. Moto Hagio is not a random fujo writer doing kawaii mpreg stories but a sci-fi author envisioning a depressing world and using it as a tool to talk about humanity and gender, Marginal is one of her many works dealing with feminist themes and in it there's a lot about the envy males feel towards our womanhood and the power of conception. To be clear: the few genetically feminized males in the world of Marginal will never be women and it's one of the crux of this story.

Marginal is technically boy's love but it's more fitting for the general manga thread since its focus is not romance or teh smexy sex between male characters, but actual world building and implications on a world without women, with its own plot twists and all.
And Moto Hagio is a feminist writer who actually lived in the years where shoujo manga authors dared and experimented with feminist themes. She's one of the first sex-conscious mangaka and her work is reknown for it.

No. 369917

>>369915
pirate it. you can always buy the game later.

No. 369918

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>>369916
>And Moto Hagio is a feminist writer who actually lived in the years where shoujo manga authors dared and experimented with feminist themes. She's one of the first sex-conscious mangaka and her work is reknown for it.
I'm hesitant to call her a feminist after I read They Were Eleven.

No. 369922

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>>369915
Go for it, nonna! I loved it, I played it after I saw it mentioned a thread or two ago. It's not as degen as their other games, but still their usual homo tragedy in a fresh setting with body horror and gore. Great plot, fights, and art, and mc a cute.

No. 369923

>>369917
>>369915
If you do decide to pirate it, it's on f95zone

No. 369926

>>369918
isn't that the one with the tranny who wants to start hrt because women are only good at looking pretty?

No. 369932

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No. 369934

Didn't expect my recommendation of a manga to start a discussion kek. Sorry about that anons. I personally consider it an interesting BL and would like more similar stuff, but I understand why not everyone sees it as such.

No. 369943

>>369918
>>369932
This is a no true scotsman fallacy. Factually speaking, Moto Hagio was a feminist in the 70s and 80s Japan. Her writing is a product of her time and while I'm not a fan of it (I far prefer Ryoko Ikeda because of her focus on cool evil women), it's undeniable her themes are seeped in the feminist artist circles she used to frequent and I don't think shoujo manga writers at the time denied the biological realities of womanhood just because they also wrote gay pretty boys in sci-fi settings, but a depressing truth is also that many feminist sci-fi authors of the last century are also pro-trans. At least the mangaka I read never went as far as to deny biological reality. They tend to babble about gendered souls because japanese culture generally believed that feminine gay men always wish to be born women instead, but it usually comes with envy and resentment.

No. 369947

I'm sad that the well animated baseball anime that's airing this season could've had a cute fujobait battery but instead the author decided to write them as gross stupid moids with ugly designs. They keep talking about catching each others balls kek so much wasted potential.

No. 369948

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>>369915
if you like games with a seme main character, i really recommend it. tasuku is so cute, and some of the dynamics in the game are just top notch with sexy boys all around, kind of autistically-deep lore but it makes it an interesting read.

No. 369956

>>369916
but they can still give birth though.

No. 369958

>>369956
Yes nona, the human life expectancy of their offsprings is 30 years and their births are dwindling and this is a problem for them and that's how the story starts. There's also other damning aspects to this flawed dystopian society but it's spoiler territory.

Or are you telling us Marginal is just a lesser Yaoi High? You know, maybe it is. It doesn't have Minions and Osmosys Jones.

No. 369959

>>369934
Don't worry anon. There's a cunt that keeps lurking here that starts sperging as soon as someone mentions men being feminine or having feminine traits, or omegaverse and anything similar to it. On this note I fucking hate when some stories (BLs or not, but especially BLs since we're in this thread) have some kind of hermaphrodite or alien/non-human characters and some bitch starts sperging about muh trannies or saying it's basically a female paladinboo style. No you fucking idiots, it's a unique thing, not a tranny, not a female, it doesn't even exist. It's made up. Even omegaverse is fake shit. It's fiction.

No. 369961

>>369959
The thing is, Moto Hagio doesn't even have a fetish for mpreg like omegaverse writers or something. She has also written a lot of manga with female characters and themes of womanhood in them.
It's the wrong author to direct troon, omegaverse and femboy sperging at. It feels like online conversation just stops at these superficial comparisons to fetishes and memes whenever it comes to words that deal withe weird the surreal.

No. 369965

>>369961
There's just a lot of really stupid people here who can't engage with media that doesn't fit into the box they made in their heads, ignore them.

No. 369966

>>369961
nta but If you have a a "sex" of people that can give birth, then they are by every metric closer to females then males.

No. 369968

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Tag yourself

No. 369970

>>369966
No, because it's a made up sex in a made up setting.

No. 369974

>>369872
>Sign in to confirm your age
Why do you keep linking to shit like that?

No. 369975

>>369974
Maybe you should confirm that you're not underaged then, hm?

No. 369978

>>369975
Fuck off, NSA.

No. 369979

>>369968
If I were a yaoi boy I'd be a master seme of course.

No. 369980

>>369979
But there can't be two of us nona…

No. 369981

>>369968
I'm not a yaoi boy, but my favorite pairings are submissive seme/master uke types

No. 369983

>>369980
It's one person per position?! Fine, I'll be the normal seme and let you be the special one who can top me. But be gentle, okay?

No. 369984

>>369968
Does anyone have that one yaoi personality test that was popular in the 2010s kek

No. 369999

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>>369984
The one that was at semeuke .com? It seems like the website is now defunct unfortunately.

No. 370001

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>>369999
It seemed to be up in 2023, so I guess it closed pretty recently.
Gotta disagree on how they categoried the seme and uke relationships though, anything can work out with interesting writing.

No. 370002

>>369999
Yes this one, what a shame. It was ridiculous but fun lol

No. 370029

>>369774
Bait or not I think she's a queen

No. 370069

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alright which one of you did this?

No. 370072

>>369999
Rip to a real one

No. 370074

>>369968
Wasn't this shit called suke? Not seke

No. 370075

>>370074
Nah it was always seke. It's just seme and uke spliced together

No. 370079

>>370075
Okay thanks for the clarif

No. 370097

Now the shotabaiter is infecting other threads
>>>/ot/1961259

No. 370098

>>370097
… and?

No. 370130

>>370097
no1curr

No. 370135

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Will this ever get ripped and translated?

No. 370141

>>370135
probably on /a/ or a bootleg anime site

No. 370180

>>370097
What's the lore on this?

No. 370444

The baby omegaverse anime was so incredibly boring. I can't imagine this going on for 12 episodes. I just skipped most of it.

No. 370445

>>370444
Yeah, it's deeply mundane. I read the manga years ago and I liked it back then but it's for people who want pure fluff from a series.

No. 370447

>>370444
It's made as a "look at cute baby, aren't babies cute? Have babies please" and while I don't think there's anything wrong with that, Japan birth crisis and all that, you can't convince me otherwise.

No. 370448

>>370445
Surely it works much better in manga format because you can go at your own pace. But here you're forced to sit through it.

No. 370449

>>370447
Same. There are much more popular BL manga that could have been adapted but they chose the one that focuses on birthing and raising children. It's so blatant kek.

No. 370550

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Cute

No. 370565

>>370444
The very fact that a fucking fanfic trope originating from overseas managing to seep its way into anime is just so kek-worthy.

Waiting for my "the name of your soulmate appears on your arm" anime in the future.

No. 370568

>>370447
Honestly, the anime industry should just give up on trying to shoehorn shrug shrug wink wink natalist propaganda onto anime. It's cringe and will not motivate the people to fuck each other.

The birth rate didn't increase when teenage pregnancy propaganda Darling in the Franxx was released. Or the McDonald's ad, or SPY × Family…

They should just focus on making stuff like discrimination against pregnant women entering the workforce be banned, fixing the insane work culture, teaching men how to do household chores so women aren't burdened by it—especially as the latter are in the workforce now. If not, Japanese women are going to keep their pussies shut indefinitely.

No. 370647

>>369890
>making me crave more yaoi with complex plotlines. I'm so sick of the school, office, and other boring mundane settings
same but i don't think there's any way of getting these translated. for some odd reason all the girlies who know enough jp + have time to translate are all moralfaggots and don't want anything pwobamatic. i've seen good stories get dropped because "uhhh this is icky gross weird creepy and we have to stop srry"

meanwhile men get all the loli guri toddlercon they want

No. 370666

>>370568
Silver lining, directing birthing propaganda to the side that actually gives birth is a very slight step up, at least.

No. 370686

>>370647
>are all moralfaggots and don't want anything pwobamatic
This is probably the main reason why I learned Japanese kek

No. 370701

>>370647
I think it has more to do with how most BL manga are very short so the stories need to be simple enough to fit in one volume. Longer BL manga tend to be very slowly published too, so that doesn't help.

No. 370712

>>370444
Raising babies is boring as fuck. There's a reason most parents try to shove them in daycare ASAP

No. 370729

>>370135
MAN it’s been years since I’ve thought about this. Not sure if im ready for this to become a meme again

No. 370872

>>370701
>>370647
Try seinen? There are some gay ones, like Welcome to the Karaoke, A second goodbye to you or I need to suck blood tonight

No. 370875

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I hate twitterfags. What the fuck is this

No. 370876

>>370875
slash started thanks to star trek fujos, so it makes sense.

No. 370877

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>>370876
Destiel beat spirk in the final poll

No. 370878

>>370877
most twitterfags are underage or barely in their 20 and don't really know the context behind ST and how influential it was to western fandom, trekkie fujos even created mpreg

No. 370881

>>370875
>sasunaru beaten by some zoomer shit
How?

No. 370885

>>370881
>zoomer shit
I think you answered your own question.

No. 370886

>>370881
OnS is pre-zommer shit, I remember these potentially canonically gay yaoi boys being obsessed over in the early 2010s. Still doesn't make sense that they beat narusasu

No. 370894

>>370875
why no drarry? whenever twittertards likes it or not HP did define a whole generation. HP is how people got introduced to fandom, fanfiction and shipping. The books also came out in a time when the internet got more widespread and mainstream so I bet that many started using the internet with the purpose of seeking out the HP fandom. Drarry is one of the biggest HP ships and even a few normies knows about it
>>370877
kek spirk is the granddaddies of yaoi ships so it's weird to see them lose. To be fair, while spirk did set the standard for slaahshipping in general, I do think destiel sat the standard for slashshipping in the age of internet. And destiel was huge to a point where it's synonymous with supernatural. Many people (including men) immediately think of destiel when someone brings up supernatural, regardless if they even shipped it. It was hard to escape destiel if you browsed any fandom-related sites while supernatural was at it's peak popularity. Plus the majority of supernatural fans where fujos even though they weren't the intended audience

No. 370897

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Thoughts on the latest drama?

No. 370898

>>370897
Fuck off back to fandom drama(infighting)

No. 370899

>>370881
the owarifags botted, that poll had like 90k votes compared to the 50k all the others had

No. 370901

>>370875
>3DPD
>yaoi
Fucking hate twitter

No. 370904

>>370901
I guess saying slash/yaoi was too redundant.

No. 370906

>>370904
Just do actual yaoi only then

No. 370907

>>370906
The only difference between yaoi and slash is whether the source material is eastern or western, and no one besides gigaweebs cares about this

No. 370909

File: 1713194853086.jpg (79.92 KB, 456x633, ancient fujo autism.jpg)

>>370906
It's about being influential, and the slash genre was born thanks to star trek. Our grandmas were drawing and writing spirk yaoi in their basement and sharing it with their small group of fujo friends through niche magazines in the late 60s and 70s. It's honestly very interesting that, regardless of women in the 70s not having access to anime, they still managed to develop their own yaoi subculture. I wish these old magazines were better archived.

No. 370910

>>370877
it had a huge impact in the west so also makes sense for twitter. my fucking aunt shipped this.

No. 370924

>>370909
Based grannies.

Im pretty sure omegaverse was also curated from Star Trek or am I making that up? I could have sworn that was a thing. Or that it started in western fandoms somewhere and the east went nutso over it.

No. 370925

>>370924
omegaverse was spn I believe

No. 370928

>>370925
It was, thus destiel win is warranted. They just made it to anime, what is there to even mald about?

No. 370937

What are some ships/fujo fanbases you can't understand?

No. 370938

>>370937
Homestuck and southpark fujos are such weird specimens to me, what compells them to ship and make fanart of those ugly ass characters?

No. 370941

>>370937
satosugu. I got scammed into reading that manga only for barely any good fujobait to happen, most of it being restricted to 1 arc. Then I realized it was the fans doing 99% of the work in making them homo. Especially since shounenshit is usually so good at homoerotic tension, there is barely anything going on in JJK that isnt the fujos cooking their own food using prompts from the manga

No. 370943

>>370938
I never got into Honestuck myself, but I've always figured it was due to a monsterboy appeal.

No. 370944

>>370928
There was even a Supernatural anime so you can't just say it's only popular in the west.

No. 370945

>>370941
Gojo and Geto aren't the main characters, that's why you're gonna be disappointed if you compare them to other popular gay ships in shonen manga that are usually between main characters. I like that despite that them being gay for each other has a direct impact on the story even though it's indirect. I think Gege most likely wanted them to be canonically gay for each other but had to make it subtle for the Shonen Jump, like Togashi with Sensui and Itsuki.

No. 370946

>>370945
nah gojo liked utahime but somehow never asked her out on a date because hes a fucking pussy. geto was mentally unwell and therefore not suited for gojo.

No. 370948

>>370945
Yeah well when you hear people touting them as canon you usually expect more than the handful of interactions they got in HI. Your post is kinda proving that fujos are doing most of the legwork in making is seem like they’re actually gay when imo there are hundreds of other shounen manga best friends that actually come off as gay unlike satosugu

No. 370949

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>>370937
For me, Reincarnated as a Slime.
I tried reading the manga years ago and didn't notice a thing so it was a real surprise to find out that there were yaoi ships.

No. 370951

>>370949
isnt the slime guy genderless?

No. 370953

>>370945
Stop coping with the "Gege wanted satosugu to be canon", that man doesn't care about any that isn't fightfaggotry in the slightest. He put the bare minimum effort into character building and you people give him so much credit for literally doing nothing. Even the male fanservice in the anime was amped up by MAPPA, not gege

No. 370955

>>370953
nah i agree even megumi x sukuna was more homosexual than satosugu

No. 370956

>>370951
Thinking about it, I think so? The manga was mostly just powerleveling, fighting, and political bs ngl so I never felt like he wasn't just some guy.
You can probably guess why I dropped it lol. So, so many meetings.

No. 370957

>>370948
Maybe I'm saying this because of the anime, I haven't read the manga yet but it's more that there are implications everywhere and the opening and ending songs for that arc are love songs from Gojo's pov about Geto and the reverse, with references to very specific scenes and lines between these two. Then the romantic piano music when Gojo gets sealed and it shows him almost smiling in relief even though he really shouldn't. Obviously there's no music when you read a manga. There's some stuff between these two in the movie/prequel, you shouldn't ignore it either. I tend to not care about the popular BL pairings in shonen manga and never gave a fuck about sasunaru back then even though I was a very young fujoshi already and I thought satosugu was so blatant and on the nose it was like either Gege or the director were almost parodying that shit kek. It reminds me more of fujobait stuff like X1999, Saiyuki or Get Backers because of how it seems done on purpose.

No. 370958

>>370957
another fujo falling for cheap bait what a sad thing to witness

No. 370959

>>370957
>It's a good ship because romantic bgm
The absolute state of fujos

No. 370960

>>370957
Yeah you’re just a dumb anime only tard falling for mappa’s bait because most of what they added to the anime doesnt happen in canon. Adding your own interpretation to it doesnt suddenly make it so that gege wanted to a real gay pairing

No. 370961

>>370959
we really need another good fujobait anime like free or yuri on ice but almost all that gets made is isekai shit nowadays.

No. 370962

>>370960
>>370959
>>370958
What, you want me to talk about the plot instead? I'm still correct in that there's something going on between these two. I plan on reading the manga later but I'm trying to finish reading Princess Jellyfish first.

No. 370963

>>370962
girl just give it up already

No. 370965

>>370962
How are you correct? Using anime filler as proof?

No. 370966

>>370959
Ngl I asked because I'm genuinely interested in hearing people talk about what they like about series that others don't understand the appeal of.

No. 370971

>>370962
Nobody cares if you're just regular shipping but if you're gonna pull the "practically canon" line then yeah, you should be able to support that claim with actual plot points that happen in the story.

No. 370972

>>370937
This might not count, but I don't get all the moralfagging in nu-fujo spaces. I'm talking about all the like "boo the seme is a red flag" type of discourse which seems to plague pretty much every currently serializing BL and popular ship. I just don't understand why so many fujos have forsaken our traditions…

No. 370974

>>370937
probably like zoro x sanji, re:zero having a fujo fanbase for some reason and i've also never understood light x l.

No. 370975

>>370959
Its so funny because the op and ed for the anime are just your usual sony music artist shilling that every anime gets

No. 370980

>>370963
Give up what exactly? I like the pairing and I liked the anime enough to buy the manga volumes, it's not like I started the series just for that pairing, it's just a bonus.

No. 370981

>>370971
yeah but who cares? all sorts of shippers call their ships "basically canon", you just have to accept that the phrase means nothing anymore

No. 370984

>>370974
The anime doesn't really do it justice at all, but I can try to explain Re:Zero's deal, if you want.

No. 370985

>>370971
The movie, especially the last scene between them then. They pulled the exact same shit as Seishiro and Subaru in X, it's pretty obvious what Gojo said to Geto to me.

No. 370986

>>370980
you need to give up your cringe ass attempt to shill satosugu as "almost canon" because it definitely aint working. maybe twitterfags will agree with you though.

No. 370987

>>370985
please explain

No. 370988

>>370986
Its worse, she isn't saying they're "almost canon". She thinks they're actually gay for each other in canon without a single thing in the manga implying it, why would someone want to give gege credit where it doesnt even exist?

No. 370989

>>370955
this is what i keep trying to point out. he's on orochimaru levels of homosexually obsessed

No. 370990

>>370987
If you're one of the anons saying I'm imagining things about how satosugu is a little implied, please tell me you're joking. If not the theme of the movie/JJK0 manga is love and there's an obvious parallel between Yuta and his dead/cursed gf and Gojo and Geto. Then Gojo says something about how love is the worst or most powerful curse, and at the end of the manga volume/movie Yuta defeats Geto who's injured, Goto finds him and before executing him (which he avoided doing for a decade on purpose) he says a short sentence that's not voiced and in the manga there's a somewhat empty speech bubble, it makes Geto blush and giggle like a school girl and he replies "at least curse me in the end" or some shit. The story is directly inspired by an actual BL manga that Gege liked but I haven!t finished this one because it was a bit boring.

No. 370991

>>370988
I didn't say they're canon I said I wouldn't be surprised if Gege wanted them to be canon but couldn't make it happen. The lack of reading comprehension here is pretty shocking.

No. 370992

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>>370938
you say that like kaiji fujos aren't god's gift to humanity

No. 370993

>>370988
kek yeah die-hard satosugu shippers will always be funny to me since gege wrote gojo to be this super straight alpha chad that teenager boys would love.

No. 370995

>>370991
gege is too busy dickriding sukuna to care about any of that

No. 370996

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No. 370997

>>370993
Gege even confirmed in an a Q&A that gojo dates around with women or whatever which is more proof than anything delusional satosugu fans can provide.
As nonas said upthread, even sukufushi has more sexual tension in the whole manga

No. 370998

>>370995
I know and I really don't mind it tbh. As I said I didn't start jjk for satosugu so it's fine if the story focuses on other things. I was curious about the manga for a while but only gave the anime a try after I learned the manga is close to its end, so that's why I also plan to read the manga later.

>>370993
sasunaru is way more famous and it's based on Kishimoto's relationship with his twin brother of all people, so that really doesn't mean much.

No. 370999

>>370990
I think its fascinating that you were able to watch the same movie as me and millions of other people but somehow completely misunderstand it entirely.

No. 371000

>>370999
You still haven't explained why I'm wrong. I'm waiting.

No. 371002

>>371000
You still havent provided the manga proof in HI that implies gege wanted to make them canon. I'm waiting.

No. 371003

>>371002
she cant provide anything because theres no proof kek

No. 371005

>>371003
She conveniently ignored the posts asking for manga proof only to start sperging about her headcanons from the anime's additional bait

No. 371006

>>371005
I literally said I haven't started the manga yet twice. I posted what I thought were decent implications already, now I'm still waiting for the anon to tell me how badly I misinterpreted the movie.

No. 371008

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Anime-only "fans" have no right to ever speak on canon tbqh

No. 371009

>>371008
My bad, I'll come back once I won't be an anime only fan kek. But I really wanted to watch the fight scenes.

No. 371010

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>has neither read nor watched jujutsu kaisen
>only contact made with the series is full comboing the op in taiko no tatsujin and saving art of characters i dont know the names of

No. 371011

>>371006
Your anime only implications are worthless because it doesnt exist in canon, return when you actually read the manga and realize you’ve wasted your energy defending things that do not exist

No. 371012

>>371009
yeah but reading the manga wont help with your argument because there simply isnt anything kek.

No. 371013

>>371010
Based. The only correct way to enjoy JJK is to look at porn and move on. Shit series

No. 371015

>>371008
This. It’s funny how they’re always the most vocal and obnoxious every time too despite never going out of their own way to read the original source

No. 371016

>>371013
kek i agree the porn is nice but every character in the series is fucking ass, gaygay really cant write for shit.

No. 371018

>>371015
anime becoming famous world-wide was just a massive mistake. now we have all those annoying fake fans who dont even care for the series they watch but are still in the fandom for some reason.

No. 371022

>>370984
What I don't get is how Garfiel is the least popular ship when he canonically calls Subaru his "ray of light".
There's also that one scene in arc 4 where Garfiel gets on top of Subaru while only wearing a scrap of cloth covering his dick and Subaru grabs him by the back of the neck and pushes their faces together into kissing distance and I hated that they cut that out of the anime it would've been so hot.

No. 371026

>>371012
I have nothing to prove and will read the manga for my own personal enjoyment so who cares. I just started by saying I get why it's a popular pairing and then you started sperging so hard it gave me the same vibes as watching a random crackhead in public transport yelling at himself.

>>371018
>anime becoming famous world-wide was just a massive mistake
Ok Ségolène Royal. I stopped being in fandoms over a decade ago, unless you think just because I said I watched a TV means I'm automatically part of a fandom?

No. 371028

>>371026
then stop liking mid-ass ahips and develope taste. no true fujo would be into shit like satosugu

No. 371029

>>371028
>then stop liking
Pay my bills, groceries and rent every month for 5 years in a row and then I'll obey.(infighting)

No. 371030

>>371026
No you started sperging because an anon said she didnt get the canon claims about your precious shounenshit ship, only to expose yourself as having not read the source material.

No. 371031

>>371030
You legit don't know how to read simple, short posts and you're talking about reading the original manga, I have to laugh.(infighting)

No. 371032

>>371029
nah fuck off

No. 371034

>>371031
>she thinks we can't scroll up
Roru. Rumao, even.

No. 371035

>>371031
Just accept your shitty ass ship has no canon evidence going for it. It aint that hard.

No. 371036

>>371035
Yep, you saw "a writer probably wanted something to be canon but couldn't make it canon" and imagined "it's canon" instead. Go back to school. It's never too late anon, I believe in you.(infighting)

No. 371037

>>371036
theres no evidence that gege want to make satosugu canon, why are you pulling shit out of your ass?

No. 371039

>>371036
Projecting your headcanons onto the mangaka is even more schizophrenic, you're not helping your case

No. 371041

>>371037
b-b-but the background song lyrics…. j-just ignore the fact that gege never actually wrote it himself!!

No. 371042

>>371037
Scroll up, I already said why. Then you'll sperg again and repeat the exact same things over and over again so I'll start ignoring you from now. I checked and it seems like there's no filler episode in the anime and no huge addition or changes, besides the battle with Sukuna in the second season being longer so I'm even more confused as to why you got so upset.

>>371041
Pretty sure he had to approve a lot of stuff for the anime though but I don't remember all the details on top of my head.

>>371039
Go say that to literature teachers trying to guess wtf is happening in novels and why and how the writers decided to write their books in a specific way.(infighting)

No. 371043

>>371042
>Bringing up literary analysis
Retard how can you analyze the authors intent when you didn't even fucking read what he wrote??

No. 371044


No. 371045

>>371042
holy fuck you are literally retarded and just refuse to give up. also didnt gege himself already say that he didnt understood why people even ship satosugu?

No. 371050

If anon wants her ship to be canon that badly who are we to tell her no?

No. 371053

>>371050
they're both dead anyways so yeah we should just end this sperg already

No. 371056

>>371050
Retard(infighting)

No. 371057

>>371056
how is wanting your ship to be canon retarded?

No. 371059

>>371057
No one said that
Actually read the thread instead

No. 371065

>>370938
The south park appeal is that they are cute boys doing cute things with simple yet dystinctive designs and personalities.

No. 371078

>>371065
I got into South Park when I was in middle school and it was perhaps my earliest exposure to yaoi kek. Does anyone else remember hollycomb’s fics

No. 371080

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What counts as "canon" for a ship, anyway? Do they just have to have confirmed feelings for one another, or do they have to unambiguously be in a relationship to qualify?

Asking since I've always considered the latter as definitive "canon" and the former as just suggestive/ship-teasy, but it seems many others disagree

No. 371081

>>371080
I usually just go off confirmed feelings

No. 371083

>>371080
I would say the former since it's pretty rare for non bl media to have any confirmation of feelings at all anyway. the question should rather be if "bait" "hinting" or "ambiguity" should be counted and wheres the line if it should be.

No. 371095

>>371080
Latter for me since the ship being canon means a relationship itself existing. The former is just a potentiality based off canon IMO

No. 371096

File: 1713220907942.png (Spoiler Image,1.66 MB, 1528x1148, NTY Spoilers.png)

I did Hiroshi's route in NTY and what the fuck? Some of you nonas kept posting cutesy art and mildly amusing screenshots as misleading propaganda for this VN. Maybe the developers being the people who made Lkyt should've tipped me off, but the OP was so cheerful that I didn't think about it. I didn't know this was a fucking utsuge. Yeah, I assumed Haru was lying about his amnesia because it was so inconsistent and there were some hints that it was fake, and I assumed the story would get dark because I saw someone recommend it as psychological, but I didn't expect it to take his character in that direction. Now I know what the OP lyrics mean, too. What the fuck. I'm so surprised by the character writing and foreshadowing. It completely changed how I saw him after the end. Fantastic story so far. I loved all three of Hiroshi's endings because they were depressing in different ways. Can't wait to play the other routes and watch these characters suffer more.

No. 371111

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>>371096
that's why i spent months trying to tell you sheeple it's kino. i'm not crazy or a barafag, it's just unexpectedly phenomenal yakuza bl. and the propaganda makes the emo hit even harder. that's the least depressing route too. do the old men next, maki was the blueprint for yael.

No. 371122

>>371111
I knew it was more than it let on but I didn't know that it was yakuza BL… Maybe it's time to finally play it

No. 371134

>>371111
Will do! Thanks for the advice; I didn't know recommended route order. I am not a fan of Maki's Justin Bieber-ass haircut, but I will persevere in the name of watching anime boys suffer horrifically. It's absolutely insane to me that Hiroshi is the least depressing, but I guess I'll see for myself.
>>371122
I've only played one route, so maybe my recommendation doesn't mean much, but I really like it thus far and you should totally give it a try.

No. 371140

>>371111
>Hiroshi's is the least depressing route
NTY was my first dabble into playing a blvn and I saw it recommended here so I decided to try it. I literally had to put the game down after finishing his route because I couldn't handle how fucking depressed I felt and haven't touched it since because I needed time to process everything. I loved it thought and do plan to finish the game eventually.

No. 371150

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>>371140
kek the other three had me tearing up here and there, but it was only when I got to ryu's route that I cried so hard I puked a little and had to take a nap about it so enjoy that. I've never been one to cry over fiction. had to take a break the same way before I could finish.

>>371134
>I am not a fan of Maki's Justin Bieber-ass haircut
be nice, he's a tard…

No. 371205

>>371080
If they have feelings for each other, usually.

No. 371214

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Did anyone else lose the ability to enjoy anime/japanese/BL content as they got older?

I transitioned into a full blown slasher and can only get into ships from western media / live action or more realistically human / less stylized animation.

Not trashing fujos because I used to love BL and I miss it, there’s so much content I’m missing out on but it just does nothing for me anymore. Did I just become a xenophobic boomer or something?

No. 371216

>>371214
No I don't like 3DPD.

No. 371217

>>371214
I feel a bit uncomfortable shipping real people. Not out any sort of morality, I just usually don't like doing so.

No. 371218

>>371214
Seems like your tastes just gradually changed, that's normal. I'm still more into Asian BL, but I'm into series I probably wouldn't have enjoyed when I was younger, either in terms of stories, characters or art style. I know friends like that too.

No. 371219

>>371214
I know what you mean. Sometimes I look back on anime ships I was obsessed with, and I can't really remember what I saw in them aside from looks. They just didn't have enough substance to sustain my interest I guess. Live action characters in western series are a little more solidly developed and complex, even if they're not so flawless looking.

Actually I'm not so sure it's got much to do with which country it came from. The last fictional ship I loved was from a chinese novel with both a live action and an anime, and I think without the drama I'd have lost interest in the cartoon version of them. Maybe it's more about having a real face to look at instead of a simplistic drawing, it might penetrate my psyche more deeply.

No. 371233

>>371214
Yes nona, exact same here. I recently tried getting back into anime and although I still enjoyed it for the nostalgia I couldn't fathom shipping or wanting to see porn of the characters anymore. I still love slash but I'm exclusively into 3DPD now kek. I think being a band RPFer immediately after being a fujo altered my brain chemistry to only like real moids. I miss liking BL, I hope I can rejoin you all at some point.

No. 371236

>>371214
I don't care for most anime/manga anymore but I can't get into live action either. I think I found my ideal medium with 3D rendered video game characters, the closest I'll get to 3DPD is video game characters with IRL faceclaims. RPF is autistic cancer, not for moralfag reasons but because the fandoms are always so far removed from reality it's just OCs using the real people as faceclaims, and the shippers are usually nuts kek

No. 371237

>>371214
yeah i understand you, the problem is also that modern anime just doesnt have any good fujobait anymore

No. 371238

>>371233
>I think being a band RPFer immediately after being a fujo altered my brain chemistry to only like real moids.
tbh the only husbandos/ships I've ever loved and obsessed over long term were musicians. I think it's because I can only rewatch a TV series or reread a book so many times before I'm bored of it, but I can listen to the same music over and over for the rest of my life. Even if you lose interest in shipping them you can still get enjoyment out of their music and depending on the band, they might be famous and relevant enough that there is a tonne of content to watch or read or listen to.

No. 371239

>>371238
Sage for OT but that's exactly how I feel, especially because I like bands small enough that I've been able to meet my husbando a few times IRL as well as the man I ship him with (they're not even in the same band kek). I even hugged one of them! After that experience it's hard to go back to liking fictional characters or even real but untouchable actors. I still like 2D yaoi but not on the same level, that's more just something nice to pass the time with but frivolous in comparison. Not shitting on the fujos ITT I love you all.

No. 371269

>>371217
Oh same anon, I didn’t mean RPF, just that my ships all transitioned to 3DPD now, I can’t get into any anime ships anymore. Maybe it’s because so many of the stories are centered around high school / early college? That or maybe I just relate more to western characters since we’d have more in common culturally.

If anyone has any recs for good BL with actual adults though I’d be willing to give it a shot

No. 371302

>>371214
>3dpd
Fuck no, that shit is weird. I agree with the nonnies saying fujobait in anime has gotten stale and very low output in the last decade or so but that will NEVER lead me to 3dpd or western trash. Imagine ever liking real hideous moids.

No. 371317

>>371302
This. I can’t believe their standards fell so hard

No. 371318

>>371214
I agree with the outgrowing anime part, but I will never ever turn to 3DPD or ugly stylization of western media. I just read books where I can imagine the characters as attractive instead of having to stare at some ugly scrotes on screen.

No. 371321

>>371080
kissing on screen or an acknowledgment of their feelings would make them canon. anything else, depending on the source material, would make them either semi-canon if it's heavily implied or has strong subtext (think loras and renly in GOT, in the book it's just a lot of subtext but in the show they're an established couple) or shiptease if they have plenty of interactions, maybe slightly romantic, but nothing deeper. unrequited feelings or one sided feelings wouldn't make them canon either

No. 371360

If you're getting bored of anime/bl I really recommend you learn Japanese. There's an endless stream of manga, bl manga, webcomics, doujin series, etc with stuff to enjoy. If you get real good you can read Japanese bl novels which have more plot. If you like 3DPD there's 2.5D stuff and live action which is better than Western TV slop imo.
Western stuff would be fine if they tried but the men are always old and/or ugly.

No. 371362

>>371214
No way. I just circled back, rewatched AOT and got my 10 years worth of doujins again. There is countless good BL content out there for most fandoms. 3DPD disgusts me beyond words.

No. 371363

>>371360
This. I'm in my 30s and been a fujo forever. Once you learn Japanese, it's a game changer. There is so much stuff out there that just isnt translated. It's lazy not to learn because you will run out of stuff eventually. Western stuff is the worst, even on my lowest low, I never turned to that crap.

No. 371364

>>371360
>if you're getting tired of anime and manga I really recommend you learn japanese so you can look at more anime and manga

No. 371366

>>371363
Eh there's some good Western stuff out there but you have to sift through a lot of ugly and woke crap. But agreed, learning JPN opens you to a new world especially with niche stuff

No. 371368

>>371364
You're tired because you don't get to see the stuff you want. But Japan has pretty much made manga of everything. Learn Japanese and you'll get to see said stuff.
Unless you mean you're getting tired of drawings? In that case there's still stuff with real people.
If what you're tired of is Japanese storytelling well there's nothing to do about that.

No. 371371

>>371363
>>371366
Issue with western media in general is almost all of it is centered around what men want, with Japanese stuff even if there's less of it there's still plenty of options for women but the general thought process for western women is that they only should spend money on makeup and skincare currently.

No. 371375

>>371214
You're definitely not alone, half of my old fujo friends got converted by Kingsman and Succession and part of me did too. Stories heavily focused on romance don't do as much for me as they used to, I prefer solid stories and characters first and the romance (and sex) can stay relegated to fanfic.

>>371360
When anons say westshit, they don't mean western BL, they mean shipping. I don't care as much if the guys are old or ugly anymore as long as the chemistry is there tbh, they're not "real" people.

No. 371376

>>371375
>Kingsman
What a coincidence. I watched that movie just this weekend with friends. I didn't catch a whiff of shipping potential in that movie, its just dumb action fun. Care to elaborate?

No. 371378

>>371371
I have absolutely no idea what you mean by this

No. 371379

>>371378
Only thing that regularly gets shilled to women is makeup and skincare crap while pretty much every major film release or television show is produced for men.

No. 371380

>>371363
I'm just about to turn 30, been a fujo since I was a teenager and have never been tired of it once. I have an endless backlog of bl manga, and in the past few years I got into 2.5D musicals. My favorite fujobait manga is an untranslated web manga that I've been reading for years. All my favorite long running bl manga have no English translations or they aren't up to date with the latest jp release. The only thing I haven't dived into are novels because I never learned enough kanji kek. Not to mention that once you learn jp, you enjoy the content itself more as you're being exposed to the direct version, not a translation.

No. 371381

>>371375
But the men in those pairs you ship are more often than not old and ugly.

No. 371385

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>>371376
Well, some of those friends are dadsonfags so they ate up picrel.

>>371381
Reading comprehension, nona. I just said I don't care.

No. 371390

>>371379
Lol. I'll keep it as simple as I can and just say I disagree with you and have no desire to dig any deeper into that claim.

No. 371393

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>>371214
I was an RPF fujo in middle school obsessed with emo bands and youtubers alongside regular animu like Hetalia so I was never against 3DPD. Though my main obsessions are all 2D right now.
>>371375
>Succession
based

No. 371441

a lot of japanese fujos ship RPF too. what's the problem with that? also what about gay ships from western cartoons or books, do they count as fujo?

No. 371491

>>371150
Saw someone who summarized what happened to haru and his brother, the company released a book, and it was really disturbing. Their eroges are as depressing and I think some are set in the same universe as Harus. Should have done a DLC instead. It'd be better that way. I felt like the game was missing a lot of explanations, but it wasn't bad overall. It a good game and I like unreliable narrator protagonists. It's time they release a new game. A past or supernatural setting would be nice.

No. 371495

>>371491
that wasn't his brother. Just another kid his age who was enslaved with him, Kouichi's son. It's actually quite dark that Haru not only murdered him despite him being his only friend in there but when he got out, skinwalked him and pretended to be him to Kouichi. NTY is so dark, literally one of my favourite games. Made me cry so hard at parts I had mascara running down my cheeks like in the movies.

No. 371496

>>371441
>what's the problem with that?
3dpd is SHIT. Why care about real moids when there is an infinite amount of 2d homo?

No. 371517

>>371495
Sorry for the confusion. By brother I meant narimiya. The yakuza psychopath had him fuck his parents and then chopped his arm off and shoved it down his father throat and left him to choke to death. Then his mother had all her limbs cut off and other gross details was raped repeatedly and she died pregnant with haru. Narimiya cut her belly off bc he was hungry?? and found haru but bc he only had one arm he dropped haru accidentally and it's implied that this is why haru is a little slow but also bc of the trauma and ptsd terrible things happened to him. There are still some inconsistencies there too, but this really deserved a DLC instead of a booklet. They took their time to release too. But since then they are really improving and listening to their fans. Many fans complained about the lack of romance and love and they made sure to add both in lkyt.
Btw anon can you remind me what happened to ryuus sister and how haru was involved in that?

No. 371522

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>>371495
>It's actually quite dark that Haru not only murdered him despite him being his only friend in there but when he got out, skinwalked him and pretended to be him to Kouichi.
I've seen a lot of fucked up shit in blvns but this reveal was definitely up there kek. haru is fucking insane for that, replaying that route with what he's doing in mind is crazy and contrasting his behavior there with his overflowing tenderness in ryu's route is even crazier. they really loved eachother. I love how each route adds so many new layers to him as a character. inui's spouler mode lines about are some of the most heartbreaking shit in the game (but the shower one was hot af). he must be harboring pretty intense guilt over killing hiroki that led to him going crazy though if it's one of the only memories of his entire life he can recall in graphic detail, still having nightmares about it to this day when he's blocked most of his other traumatic experiences out. my poor little meow meow who never did nothin to nobody…

also (major spoiler for ryu bad end 1) anon must've been talking about his real (half) brother and not hiroki, who's backstory isn't fully told in game but is in the book. renren and kaori's sad backstories are also detailed in the book but didn't make it to the game. inui doesn't take in people for no reason I guess.

>>371517
>can you remind me what happened to
I don't think haru had any involvement in that, he only lied and said he did to get ryu in attempt to give up his search for her. she was kidnapped and sold to the same rich sickfuck haru kills in ryu's bad end, and ended up in the hallway you see in other end endlessly humming clair de lune, the song that plays in the credits of ryu's bad end 2.

No. 371526

>>371491
Got a link to the summary?

No. 371528

>>371517
lol this shit it so edgy. My memory of NTY was largely being bored of every route that wasn't Haru? It felt like a BL game for those who don't like BL. It's just kinda dull and unfulfilling

No. 371533

>>371528
To me it just felt like a bl game for people who are tired of bl made for teenagers, with bad plots, unearned romance, and flat characters who lack autonomy

No. 371539

>>371214
Not really. I don't watch as much anime as I uses to because whatever seasonal new stuff isn't to my liking or the amount of BL is lacking, but I still watch it now and then if it's something I'm interested in. In terms if BL, I still stick to manga or animes. I'm not super into live action in general, though I don't mind live action BL movies/adaptations if they're good. I'll always prefer 2d nonetheless. small nitpick, but it is annoying that r/boyslove is almost 99% live action over manga/anime/manhwa

No. 371544

>>371528
>It felt like a BL game for those who don't like BL
I'm genuinely curious, in what way? I have not yet finished all of the routes, so maybe my opinion will change, but I haven't gotten the impression it's for people who don't like BL. It's different, yes, but I don't get the feeling it's different enough that it wouldn't appeal to the average person who reads BL VNs.

No. 371545

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Curious to see my paradesisters' lists
https://tiermaker.com/create/parade-blvn-character-tier-list-maker-15470913

Apparently my type is the ones that suffered more than Jesus

No. 371553

>>371545
I'll fill this in when Paradise releases in English. Until then, I'll finish Sorcerer's Choice.
I need more edgy BLVNs…

No. 371569

>>371545
>Towa as best girl
I'm currently playing Lykt and anons I'm so pissed I can't see him naked right away I want him!!! Let me see him!!! I want to see him and Tasuku (puppy) fuck!!

No. 371574

>>371522
Same, I've played and read quite a few fucked up stuff in bl and I don't mind in general,I'm pretty desensitized after all these years, but maybe because I also playes parades main companys eroges, clock up games, and saw in detail and in graphics what these people do to those they abduct i felt for Haru more. Room n9 was nothing compared to Nemurenu Hitsuji for example, who is btw connected in a way?? to nty? I saw a poster in one of the cgs the boys like a host club. Would be nice, everyone happy haru included in a host club. I read rens rens story too it was really sad but I really like how close he was with the girl to the point they became siblings. Someone should be happy in that game haha. I liked Ryus story the best too tbh, and how he saved the little girl.
Thank you for the explanation! I really need to replay the game. Tbh I didn't like it much because I played it when I was quite young. But now I understand how deep it is. I actually really like it that parade moved on to lkyt because they do have in a lot of their games that organization etc. One of their upconing eroge games has it again too from what I saw, set back in the 90s. I'd like a blvn version of dead days or maggot baits. Waiting for a blvn game announcement usually they release a new blvn every 3-4 years.

>>371526
Yes anon here! https://www.tumblr.com/somnimouse/744884761320882176/i-would-really-like-to-know-harus-section-ive?source=share
Same blog has some other summaries too but not all the book.
If I ever get my hands on it I'll happily translate it but they don't have digital version which is such a bummer.

No. 371583

>>371528
>>371533
Same anon, I think it's important to play by the route order of Hiroshi>Maki>Kouichi>Ryu.
I was first like that too tbh, Hiroshis route doesn't reveal a lot of stuff and it's from the tamest but the more you dive in the more you uncover. I like how lines pop up after clearing each route and move to another. But I'll agree on the unfulfilling part like if you don't like sad/parting/not clear what's going to happen endings I don't recommend games from that company in general, you won't like them. It's their first game to me there are a of inconsistencies and stuff that needed more exploration and by fully understanding wtf is happening you'll need to play some of their eroges set in the same universe, read the book + the creators interviews. It'd be better if they just released a fandisk and a dlc at this point or even dramacds. But I cut them a slack because it really was their first blvn ever, they are an eroge company after all and since then they have improved dramatically. And listen to their fans. And pamper to their female fans too. From voiceless protagonists they make eyecandy cuties and hire vas for them too + added romance.
And other companies have done this too like saya no Uta and sweet pool are connected, paradise, pigeon blood are connected in a way to some of their otome games. Omega vampire, animamundi and princess nightmare were connected. They advertise their other games through them. It's not uncommon.

No. 371619

>>371214
3dpd doesn't interest me even slightly kek

No. 371624

>>371583
>like saya no Uta and sweet pool are connected
Eeehhhh…It's a bit of a stretch to say they're connected. I've seen the fan theory posted that sweet pool takes place after Saya turns everyone into the same monster as her but I feel like that's just a fun 'what if' scenario rather than actually canon/intended.

No. 371627

>>371441
Problem with that is absolute shit taste.

No. 371635

jjk could've been a cool psychological thriller that focused on politics in a world where you either became god (gojo) or a glorified copy machine (mai) and, either way, had to accept that you would basically be a living weapon for the rest of your life but instead the author decided to turn it into a 100 chapter long battle tourney. i stopped reading sometime after the maki mai chapter btw…whenever itadori (was that his name) got to the battle showdown ruined city place

No. 371656

>>371635
This same criticism applies to a lot of battle shonen manga. It's foolish to expect much else, the rare exceptions are few and far between. Don't ever make a call til it's over.

No. 371658

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Sorry in advance for bringing yumeshit into the fujo thread, but I'm interested in NTY because I think Maki is beautiful and cool. Without spoiling me, is it a totally impossible read of Maki's character to go into it hoping to yume him afterwards?
I'll play the game either way because it looks good, I just want the right mindset going in. I see in picrel that he's straight but I'm not sure if it's straight out a joke or a "I'm straight but this one man is an exception" thing, as is so frequent in BL.

No. 371660

>>371658
You…plan which characters to yume before you even learn anything about them? What?

No. 371661

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>>371658
You will never be haru

No. 371662

>>371660
I've seen him around for years and always liked his design and his advertising snippets. Really don't think it's weird to go into something preinvested in a character in a certain way. I could learn more about him that's not particularly anti-yume and still not come out with yume feelings, but I want to know ahead of time if there's anything glaringly "why would anybody ever do that with this character".

No. 371663

>>371662
Well for starters he gets assfucked

No. 371664

>>371663
Would I be a yumefujo if I cared

No. 371665

>>371658
why are you even asking this, most characters already have love interests, why does it matter if maki has gay sex instead? most of my husbandos had canon gfs

No. 371667

>>371665
>he's strictly homosexual
>he's implied to be the "canon" route
Either of these scenarios are a no-go for me because I don't yume so delusionally as to overwrite a character's sexuality and NTY seems like a game well-written enough that if he's implied to be the no.1 love route I'm probably gonna care more about the ship.

No. 371669

>>371667
then just imagine haru is your gay self-insert

No. 371671

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>>371662
He's a ryan gosling/mike breaking bad autism man with gap moe, unironically might be based in part on mike or the guy from drive. Self inserting with him would be gay unless you want to self insert as his fucked up mpdg bf because of the way they're written. Maki's oneitis for him was the only thing that could cure his autism. Their ship is the best overall to me, he's kind of the soulmate route.

>>371574
You're welcome!! I want to replay it after talking about it so much too kek or at least maki's route. It sits with hiroshi in relatively cozy territory ♥ and it hasn't been that long since I replayed hiroshi kek. What inconsistencies stood out to you?
>One of their upconing eroge games has it again too from what I saw, set back in the 90s
I saw that! The aesthetic of all the promo art is sick, I rarely play eroge without bl but it and Nemurenu Hitsuji are def on my radar for a while. I heard the latter is like Tarantinoshit in edgy vn form which is right up my alley, but I think I'll work through my bl backlog a little more before I tap into violent gen eroge that I'll need mtl training wheels to read kek.
>I'd like a blvn version of dead days or maggot baits
This just with an a more coherent story would be HUGE for some people kek I'd be interested in seeing that play out too

No. 371672

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Out of curiosity, do you have top/bottom physique preferences when you read BL? Tradition dictates that the uke is delicate while the seme is buff, or they are both beautiful bishies. But I've been reading more webtoons recently and noticing more buff bottoms than I used to, like in Doyak's Wet Sand (picrel) and Jaxx's stuff (Walk on Water and Under the Green Light). I used to really dislike buff guys in BL, but I think I'm starting to get used to it and feel a little less set in my scrawny pretty boy ways…

No. 371674

>>371672
I don't mind buff guys but I really hate the way webtoon artists give them ugly faces so often. A guy and be buff and pretty in the face too, you know

No. 371675

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>>371569
hang in there, nona. if you wanna cope, the build up of his mystique in other routes before u get his is one of the best parts.

No. 371676

>>371635
It's a shonen jump manga, it would have never happened because editors would have been like "nooo that's too complicated for kids, make it simple". I don't mind the series as it is but your idea sounds good too. Have you read Sankaku Mado? Gege said it's one of the series that inspired him for JJK, like a lot, and there are some implications like that with one of the characters, about how he was raised like he was some god by a cult but the series' stakes are way more personal for the characters so there's no politics. Bonus for it being a BL I guess so we're still on-topic. That one anon will sperg hard again because you mentioned JJK.

No. 371677

>>371671
Got it, thanks for the actually helpful answer lol. I know nothing about Haru to be honest so I'm excited to see what the couple is about.

No. 371679

>>371672
I like seeing older buff guys as ukes, there's an appeal in it being hard on them if the partner is younger and more raring to go

No. 371680

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>>371677
I can't say more without spoiling but they're a such lana del rey couple by the end
https://youtu.be/TdrL3QxjyVw

You should still do hiroyuki's route hirst for the pacing tho

No. 371685

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>>371672
Kinda ranges. I'm usually not into super big body type variation between the uke and the seme and prefer when they're both cute looking, not always though obviously.

No. 371686

>>371680
I'll definitely do the in order, thanks. What a specific vibe kek… Gives me a pretty good idea of what it's like, though. I'm into it.

No. 371707

I'm so jealous of fans of Chinese BL for getting so much merch.

No. 371708

>>371707
I'm also jealous cause I don't have the money to buy the merch

No. 371709

>>371708
Get a loan from the fujo bank

No. 371711

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To all those interested, we now have a separate historyfag yaoi thread (following discussion on /ot/):

>>>/m/371706
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No. 371714

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>>371711
>Shipping old dead moids

No. 371716

>>371714
Not a historyfag but it's based

No. 371720

>>371708
seriously those dolls probably cost like $1k each its a scam

No. 371723

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>>371720
They're cool, but I prefer female BJDs (or feminine boy) and don't have room for them anyway.

No. 371730

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>>371723
in china you see a lot more bishie dolls with long hair and long, flowy clothes which i like even better than female bjd, but the price is a no. this one is over $2000.

No. 371751

>>371671
Maki cute! The inconsistencies that I found was how haru was written sometimes. They portray him as being unemotional and that can only feel about 80% human emotions due to trauma ptsd but also the head trauma and yet I personally find him very emotional and this statement wrong especially in bad endings and Ryus route, seeing him how he treats the little girl how he cares for the little kitten. This he can't feel yet he feels. The girl who summarized their book write something similar too so I guess I'm not the only one nitpicking haha. Another is I wish they explored both haru and his half brother narimiya more in the game it would really make more sense and the whole experience would be different but I guess the writers maybe did think of maybe realising a dlc or wanted to test the waters with fujoshis first, nty had no gore in at least shown in the cg or any other extreme fetishes. It was their first game after all. They went more clock up style with room n9, and lkyt. It's logical after all. And maybe the reason they didn't reveal much about haru was because they didn't want haru to get hated? Idk i can't hate haru. The book does say that he was raped since he was 6 by his father, that yakuza psychopath and was forced to do a lot of disgusting and horrifying things including raping people of all ages. I think it'd be important to learn more about haru in general because I see a lot of fujoshi sisters confused about haru and not liking him. Don't get him. My opinion about him changed after reading about his past tbh and playing the clock up games. Maybe they did plan to make a fandisk or something in the end but didn't work out. They were planning an OVA too. It's just me nitpicking don't mind me haha. I've played a lot of blvns after all. I find inconsistencies even in my favorite games.

Mtling clockup games is pretty easy actually! Nemurenu is pretty dark though and I really don't recommend it if you can't take women suffering. They go through shit there and really show how fucked up this disgusting organization is. I did skip a lot of torture scenes especially the amputation ones. I don't remember if euphoria and fraternite are connected to the same universe too since I didn't complete them. I tend to play eroge with bl and otome elements too haha. Or the closest to a female gaze/POV. I like clock up for that they really try to pamper to female audiences. I like both artists too ntys and norizane the reason I played games they did art for haha. Also a lot of their writers/staff have previously worked on bl games. I wish them the best overall.

>>371624
Urobochi gen worked on both games so I wouldn't be surprised if they were connected. The theory, at least to me seems more plausible because of zebras dad and what he "worships for". And the game doesn't take place in a ABO universe where everyone is affected and even youji himself doesn't know wtf is wrong with him. That's why I find these two games connected, after Saya some humans were affected and one of them was youji Zenya and Tetsuo. But that's my pov/theory so please do take it with a grain of salt as I've played both games ages ago. Another game that I needed more information/explanations.

No. 371789

>>371751
>Urobochi gen worked on both games so I wouldn't be surprised if they were connected
He was on a pretty small staff role for sweet pool though. It’s a fun fan theory none the less.

No. 371798

>>371672
When I was a young fujo, I hated buff guys and wanted nothing to do with them. But when I got older my tastes broadened a lot, and now i like buff guys. I think my favorite pairing though is handsome or cute slightly muscular top paired with a 'peerless beauty' bottom (to use some CN danmei words kek). But, I do just like it when the bottom is supposedly unbelievably gorgeous or has a beautiful face and the top is beside himself about it.

No. 371803

>>371751
I think they wanted to keep him mysterious like the organization itself. Only leaving hints and the rest up to the reader's imagination prevented it from getting campy or obnoxiously violent which could've made it more difficult to take seriously, and a lot of VNs fall into that gratuitous violence problem. So much so that it's become a staple of them so I'm used to it, in fact I loved reading about Haru's horrific past in the book kek, but it does make them feel kinda goofy and overly edgy at times when that isn't always the intention. Look at how >371528's first response to learning details was "ow the edge" lol. I think them not going that route made the experience more enjoyable to me personally, but I see how it doesn't come without its own set of problems; they might've kept things a little too barebones for some. Nty absolutely could've used a fandisc to contain all that, they even said in the book that they had to cut a lot of things due to time constraints. Narimiya being Haru's big brother who single-handedly (pun intended) raised him from birth was too big a reveal too late in the game to really dive into it but I wanted to know more too. If only they made him like 20% hotter and gave a true incest Narimiya route that only unlocks after you do everything else, and I know I'm not alone in wanting that because there's a ton ship art of them for a bl mc x npc pairing. Parade seem really into the idea of avoiding true routes so the reader can consider their fave the true waifu though, rip.

I do agree that Haru showed a bit more emotion than he was made out to be capable of and more than that, he was overflowing with empathy and emotional intelligence. Maybe that was only referring to the intensity of his emotions and his ability to form and maintain attatchments? Because in that sense it's kinda true, those are the things that have been conditioned out of him since childhood. It lines up with his actions too as we watch him kill each of his bfs without a moment of hesitation in their BE2s (except Hiroshi, the only person we know for a fact he regrets killing), as well as his indifference in the face of his own death in the ballad ends. Plenty of his descisions and actions do come across as borderline sociopathic or at least morally grey, but he still retains a lot of heart. Towa in Lkyt was kind of like that too, might be why I love them both. Haru acted the way he did to Maki because of his own paranoia about ending up like him one day (losing that heart and becoming an apathetic brick, a waste of the free life he fought so hard for in Haru's eyes) after all.

>I don't remember if euphoria and fraternite are connected to the same universe too since I didn't complete them

Kek me neither but euphoria is probably the same universe. I can put up with that shit if the plot is good enough to compensate but if it's just another maggot baits etc I have to pass.

No. 371879

>>371751
>The theory, at least to me seems more plausible
This is an interesting theory, and I'd never heard it before now. I don't know how probable it is, though, considering in the ending where Saya blooms and infects the world, it's basically implied most of humanity had perished, and the cool doctor lady was one of the few people surviving with her mind somewhat intact. We see the world covered in meat and changing because of Saya, and it doesn't really resemble the world we see in sweet pool at all. Then again, it's been a long time since I read either of those, so I could be misremembering. I've always kind of seen them as thematically different interpretations of a similar concept rather than directly related. To me, sweet pool felt 'scarier' on a more personal level, while SnU was more concerned with a cosmic scale while addressing that same core concept. I see SnU and sweet pool more like cousins rather than siblings, I guess?
>Mtling clockup games is pretty easy actually!
Is it worth doing if I can handle dark content but want to learn more about the shared universe thing? I've always been under the impression they were nukige with a bit more plot than most.
>>371803
>I do agree that Haru showed a bit more emotion than he was made out to be capable of
Maybe I'm misinterpreting, but I think that's part of what makes him a compelling protagonist. Unless I misunderstood, Haru does still have emotions, despite everything that has happened to him and everything he has done. Haru's upbringing is the reason why he is the way he is; it's not as though he were born that way. If anything, it just reflects the fact that, while his brain is obviously scrambled and his perception of morality is warped, he is still just a person beneath it all. We're seeing the story from his perspective, so we have to filter what the narrative tells us through that lens. The way I interpreted it, that contradiction felt like an intentional choice on the writers' part.

No. 371888

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>>371879
>Unless I misunderstood, Haru does still have emotions, despite everything that has happened to him and everything he has done
He does. One of the central themes of nty is the effect the environment a child is raised in has on them as they grow up. Since the summer in nty is the first time he's gotten a taste of normal life in the outside world since he was a very young child, I don't feel like it was truly out of character for him to be a little extra emotive either. He does have emotions, he was always supposed to have emotions, but I think that "he's about 80% less emotional than a normal person" book quote referred to how he handles his emotions very differently than a normal person would and he's able to repress them with ease, like he has to do that to get by doing what he does for a living without going crazy. He also has that almost animalistic mindset of brutal realism keeping him grounded, another result of his upbringing just like his sixth sense. He acts more like a cat or dog (or a crow?) than a regular person, cute but sad when you remember why.

What a great character though omg there aren't many guys in bl I feel the urge to dissect like this if any

No. 371891

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No. 371892

>>371891
To no one's surprise…but still fuck MAPPA

No. 371898

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I like this mangaka's art so much and her premises are unique (especially historical BL, yummy) but the one volume format really hurts her story telling so bad. It gets so melodramatic and there's no downtime to just get to know and get attached to the characters.

No. 371899

>>371891
when i think of how poorly csm sold and how bad the last season of jjk looked i can only kek . crappa indeed

No. 371903

>>371891
Hope Wit handle it.

No. 371910

>>371899
>>371892
Allegedly the issue isn't MAPPA at all but Sayo Yamamoto who became overprotective of her IP. Some people on twitter said that but without sources so wait and see I guess but MAPPA said months ago that they didn't make a lot of money with the anime because most of the profits went to producers so maybe Yamamoto and Kubo also barely got money from it as well?

No. 371911

>>371891
saw some japanese fans say the cancellation could've also been because of the russia shit going on and that one russian skater getting banned too. it's over sisters

No. 371916

>>371891
YOI is a money printer and they let it go to waste like that..

No. 371919

>>371891
Hate this timeline.

No. 371924

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>>371916
They don't care about us fujos even if it's only a way to give them boatloads of money. The misogyny is just too strong. Isekaislop n. 456 while half as profitable is more palatable to fuckass gigantic japanese anime studios who need to make shareholders happy.

YOI only happened because MAPPA was a small studio back then. Now they're too big and so it's toast for fujo anime. It's our destiny to live on the fringers forever, fuck this gay earth.

No. 371925

>>371924
They're gonna add more fujobait in the next JJK and CSM seasons, we'll see the outline of Gojo's nipples under his compression shirt, mark my words.

No. 371926

>>371924
Didn't Mappa sell out for shounen?
They only ever did one isekai.

No. 371927

>>371925
There is no way you'd settle for scraps in shonenshit over canon gay

No. 371928

>>371927
nta but I'll settle for a lot of things over boring on ice, couldn't care less about canon

No. 371935

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>>371891
RIP, I'm sad but I expected it and have long since moved on from YOI. But it got me into figure skating, I poured so much time and effort into it for years after watching the series and I still love it. And I'll never forget watching it with /a/, truly the funniest, most hype time I've had watching anime

No. 371936

>>371926
I meant in a general sense, if you look at the lineup of each seasons for the past couple of years. Of course MAPPA sold out to the even bigger cash cow making it absolutely impossible for them to ever make fujobait anime again.

>The same studio making my male power fantasy releasing anime about fags? REEEEEEEEEE


t. obese japanese otaku

No. 371943

>>371936
I mean, it just seems silly when it's pretty obvious that it was the grab for shounen titles like Jujutsu Kaisen and Chainsawman that did it. Hell, idolshit moids are worried about ZombieLand Saga's movie getting canceled too.
Meanwhile Chainsawman had 12 individual ending for each episode and is coming out with a movie, I doubt anybody even remembers Campfire Cooking.

No. 371946

>>371898
Looks nice thanks for the rec nonnie. Any story in particular I should check out?

No. 371947

>>371943
I just remembered Mappa did Bucchigiri last season.

No. 371954

>>371927
I'm not talking about myself I'm talking about how MAPPA will cope with the loss of time and money over a canceled movie.

No. 371959

>>371935
I miss baldfat everyday… Maybe I'll rewatch the show this weekend.

No. 371967

>>371925
the fujobait in csm and jjk is abysmal shitty and i dont want to see gojos disgusting nipples, unironically the most overrated and annoying anime character alongside sasuke.

No. 371976

>>371967
Sasuke is far worse and Naruto as a whole is an abomination, at least there's less focus on Gojo in JJK it's just that he's popular with fans.

No. 371980

>>371976
yeah luckily hes sealed pretty quickly and now death, pretty much the only good thing gaygay ever did.

No. 371982

>>371891
Honestly? Better having no movie than a shitty one that they clearly didn't want to make anymore. Yoi was good but I don't think I could take more of those horrible rotoscoped skating sequences (the only good one was Victor's at the start).

No. 371984

>>371980
They're gonna milk the airport scenes with him and Geto and make them gayer than in the manga, they still want fujobucks. And I'll be here for that.

No. 371985

>>371984
but why would you care? i genuinely do not understand how fujos can become obsessed with such an empty and soulless ship

No. 371988

>>371891
like seriously, how the hell do they fuck up this badly? did they take more projects? YOI literally would've printed money
>>371910
ohhh I want to know the gossip, would be interested if it was her doing, who knows

No. 371990

>>371988
It would have printed money but not for Mappa, mostly for the other parties. As for Yamamoto I'll check if I can get more info, seems like she didn't work on any other project yet after the movie got announced.

No. 371994

>>371891
After a rewatch I don't think the show was as good as everyone hyped it to be while it aired, RIP most annoying fandom in existence

No. 371996

>>371994
I'd say the show is way less fun when you're not watching it blind, which is why I hated when fakebois were spoiling all the big twists back when it was airing to try to make everyone watch it. Being legit shocked by the kiss and the marriage proposal at the time made the show iconic for me.

No. 371997

>>371996
They also didn't fix any of the wonky skating animation for the BD/DVD, instead they just added a ridiculous amount of gloss on the guy' lips during close-ups of their faces

No. 372007

>>371891
I never liked yoi (too vanilla for me) but this saddens me. Female weebs interests always gets pushed to the side in exchange for more slop

No. 372008

REMINDER that mappa wouldn't be where they are now without yuri on ice, hate it or not that was a series done by female directors and writers for fujos and women and mappa turned its back on it cause shounenslop and a moid fanbase is more important. wouldn't be surprised if the rumors about the female director being blacklisted by the industry are true….

No. 372010

>>371996
yeah the show was actually iconic during its release, maybe it didn't age that well but at the time it was super fun and had so many plot twists for a first time watcher
>from the first episode baits you into thinking yuko is yuri's love interest just to reveal at the end that she's actually happily married with three kids
>yuri and victor's relationship getting gradually gayer and gayer
>victuuri kiss
>victuuri marriage proposal
>yurio unexpectedly getting his own bf!
>the big reveal with drunk yuri asking victor to be his coach
>victuuri ice skating together at the end

No. 372014

>>372008
Why would she be blacklisted?

No. 372015

>>372008
The thing is that fujos like shonenslop too, so the audience is bigger and there's more money. That's why I'll never understand fujos who cling on to series that are blatant coombait besides the random men they ship or where you can otherwise tell that the author is a misogynist. Basically just free ads for some guy who could ruin whatever ship it is once he makes his money

No. 372016

>>372015
Do you think nonnas will stop shipping series like JJK, Chainsawman, or Death Note any time soon?

No. 372018

>>372016
does chainsaw man even have gay ships?

No. 372020

>>372018
Being a csm fujo is literally bottom of the barrel, there are barely any male characters in there to begin with.

No. 372021

>>372018
Iirc Aki and Angel, Denji and Octodude.

No. 372022

>>372018
>Denji and Aki
>Aki and Angel
>Denji and Yoshida
Those are the only ones off the top of my head

No. 372027

>>372018
It has the worst gay ships I've seen in my life. And I know fujo ships often don't make sense, but this feels worse. They're just completely undesirable.

No. 372029

>>372027
Sometimes people try shipping series just out of popularity, saw it with Frieren too.
What's worse is when there's a sense of superiority because what they like is cool despite there being zero chemistry or male interactions whatsoever.

No. 372035

>>372029
they only frieren ship i know of is frieren x himmel but hes dead so that ship is already cooked

No. 372037

>>372022
>Aki and Angel
This one was funny because it made it obvious how often TiFs were the ones fighting for their lives to make gay ships relevant where they weren't, at least in Western fandom

No. 372039

>>372035
Depends on what you mean by cooked, if you care more about their feelings for each ither or if they're actually dating/married. I don't care about that series and will never read or watch it but it seems like at least the dead guy liked the MC?

No. 372041

>>372035
It was more like desperately throwing shit at the wall only for nothing to stick.

No. 372042

>>372035
i don’t understand the obsession with these two or the ship. i read the manga a few years ago (a few chapters anyway) and it seemed like your very typical slow sol fantasy

No. 372044

>>372039
by cooked i mean it will never be canon since the dude is already dead but he liked her atleast

No. 372045

>>372042
That's just how FOTM are. Watch Frieren discussion and fan community go poof overnight once the anime ends

No. 372046

>>372016
Of course not. I know personal enjoyment always takes priority, but it would be better if people could let go of things when it becomes clear that the creator is awful. A lot of times ships from works like that don't have any basis, they are literally just two men (who might not even have talked to each other). From the outside it seems like wasted potential since that dedication could've gone into something personal that can't be ruined by some moid

>>372020
Exactly. Aki/Angel is doomed and both of them are boring and all ships with Denji are pure cope because basically all of csm is about him wanting to fuck girls

No. 372050

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>>372042
I feel it's more due to what Himmel represents as a memory of a love lost to time.
Also he's pretty cute.

No. 372052

>>372044
You know, I'm starting to suspect that the anon who sperged when I said I like satosugu and see why it's a popular ship thinks that canon = dating or married because I think the vast majority of people go with canon = feelings for each other regardless of what happens at the end, me included. Anyway, does the elf girl like him too?

No. 372053

>>372052
Your ship just sucks balls, retard-chan

No. 372054

>>372052
no satosugu is just a shit ship and you were acting like a idiot back then

No. 372055

>>372050
eh i've found him boring but then again i thought frieren in-itself was just really boring and uninteresting

No. 372056

>>372052
>Anyway, does the elf girl like him too?
She only realizes her feelings after he's dead and gone. The story's premise is her traveling to a location that connects to the afterlife so she can talk to him one more time.

No. 372058

>>372056
Sounds like I wouldn't like that series then.

No. 372061

>>372046
it's satisfying to see a straight coomer get fucked in the ass though, but for that mobdenji>>>>>>>>>any couple(no porn in /m/)

No. 372066

>>372050
He literally has the most boring design I’ve ever seen
Everyone in that anime looks like a default NPC in a fantasy mobile game.

No. 372068

>>372066
>>372058
Sorry if it sounded like I was trying to shill it in a bl thread, just meant to answer why some people like it.

No. 372069

>>372066
Well, the manga does cram in lots of class fantasy JRPG tropes, so it was probably intentional.

No. 372070

>>372061
literally my explanation why bottom gojo is surpreme

No. 372072

>>372068
No it's fine, I was curious.

No. 372105

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>>372007
That's just how corpos work.

No. 372106

i like aki/angel because good traps are next to impossible to find in BL

No. 372108

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>>370938
Idk about South Park, but Homestuck has some pretty solid character writing, despite the story being a confusing mess. The sprite art (where they have no arms) is non representational, and there are places where the characters are drawn in greater detail, like picrel. Also Homestuck is full of shipping bait in general, because the aliens are an all-bisexual race with their own quirky relationship system. There are several canon m/m and f/f ships, some of which are human/alien if that's what you're into. Gomen for cringe.

No. 372109

>>372108
i’m still mad davekat became canon and not something more sensible like pepsicola

No. 372111

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>>372010
I genuinely think this is one of the best plot twists in any romcom. They pulled it off so perfectly, it made complete sense and explained a lot but also changed everything in such a romantic and legit funny way.

No. 372112

I'm so sorry if this should go in ot but I am trying to find a manga I am 99% sure was at least shonen ai implied. It was a very unique and kinda weird, huge starey eyes and kinda clamp-esque physique manga of some kids(?) who formed a religion/cult around some older kid? They might have been orphans in the beginning and they may have eaten each other, it was a very artsy fartsy, eerie but very pretty manga I read online maybe in the early 2010s? It definitely was horror but done in a very pretty and weird way, it wasn't a long series I wanna say.

No. 372113

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>>372112
Kami no kodomo?

No. 372114

>>372113
I will kiss you on your goddamn beautiful face nona I owe you my life, you saved me from hours of shit research! I just spent an hour shittily searching for this, thank you so much!

No. 372115

>>372114
nta but I had to do the same thing once and found it by typing something like "horror manga about child murderer" which remarkably brought it up.
He does have sex with a bunch of little boys in his weird little murder cult but it's not BL.

No. 372116

>>372114
>will kiss you on your goddamn beautiful face
That's gay.

No. 372117

>>372114
You're welcome nonna, I'll kiss you back ♥

No. 372120

>>372115
see, I kept being stuck on some cannibal stuff and kept getting some very modern shonen series and junji ito, I completely forgot the serial killer angle! okay I just remember this being very disturbing, thank you my fujononas

No. 372133

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>>372109
I can't tell if you're baiting. Pepsicola is so bland and basic. If you're going to suggest alternatives to Davekat, at least pick something less milquetoast. At least Johnkat and Davekat have a more interesting dynamic instead of the usual childhood best friends shtick

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>>371891
I'm sorry, I have to post it.

No. 372143

>>372133
tasteless roastie(terrible bait)

No. 372144

>>372066
he looks like a poor man's kaito

No. 372160

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Nonacitas I need recommendations for BL with retarded characters and plots, in the funny haha way not the frustrating way. Both manga and webtoons are fine.

No. 372163

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>>372069
Japanese are obsessed with the classic Yuusha archetype.
Himmel is pretty clearly intentionally made with that in mind.

No. 372165

>>372133
I was always a Johnkat truther myself. I get why people liked Pepsicola (and Gamkat for that matter) but I just loved the one-sided tsundere gay hatred Johnkat had. Davekat was honestly okay after they had more interactions like the penis ouija incident, but Johnkat has a special place in my heart…

No. 372167

>>372160
Smells Like Green Spirit. It had a dark side too but it gets a couple laughs out of me most chapters and it's goofy.
19 Days is funny sometimes, but it's a webtoon where they are no-homo forever.
Everything Kotetsuko Yamamoto makes has gags in it, she's pretty funny.
Yume Miru Vampire has a retarded plot with an incubus and a vampire but it's good at the same time. more smutty than funny though

No. 372177

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>>372160
Hashi no XL Saizu is really funny and sweet despite the plot being driven by the uke discovering that the seme has a giant anaconda cock (his words, not mine).

No. 372186

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>>372136
The seethe was fucking glorious. hetfags got btfo but i guess they're back to winning

No. 372196

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>>372186
free! got like 6 movies in the end, though. crazy.

No. 372197

>>372177
>>372167
>tfw I've already read all of these
Nonnies…nonnies I don't have time to learn Japanese to find new series…

No. 372198

>>372160
BJ Alex and Can't Think Straight are both BL webtoons that made me think everyone involved was clinically retarded and both made me laugh irl a few times. They're long and plotty though, so that might not fit the bill.

No. 372202

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>>372198
I haven't read Can't think straight yet, thanks nonnie

No. 372206

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>>370897
well i mean, mizisua is genuinely boring. it's two cute girls who love one another with no complication whatsoever outside of one dying, the big m/m ship in comparison has:
>unrequited love
>size difference
>visual contrast
>an actual animated kiss scene
>tons of content because fujos love to actually create content
not trying to say it's inherently deeper or anything but the tropes it's working off of are just better. picrel is funny though, i wonder if we'll ever reach an era where gl overtakes bl in fandom i kind of hope not. quality for f/f shit tends to be higher across the board because there's just less shit to sift through. hope this isn't too ot for the fujo thread

No. 372210

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>>372160
Zettai BL ni Naru Sekai VS Zettai BL ni Naritakunai Otoko is a parody manga about BL tropes, MC is a straight guy but I thought it was pretty amusing

No. 372211

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>>372202
Of course nona, I hope it's sufficiently retarded for you.
>>372206
I've said it before, but Mizisua could have been a lot more interesting if they'd emphasized the fact that Sua is apparently selfish and possessive about Mizi and knowingly sacrifices herself to make sure she'll always be irreplaceable, but they squander every single opportunity to make Mizisua half as compelling as Ivantill. And then people pretend not to understand why people are more excited about the ship that combines some of the most popular tropes, like hurt/comfort, pining, obsession, self sacrifice for someone who doesn't love you back, etc.

No. 372213

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>>372211
>they squander every single opportunity to make Mizisua half as compelling as Ivantill
yeah definitely…like i'm pretty sure she's all over hyuna now. grim and zzz
i bet everyone complaining about ivantill's popularity are reading the fics in private kekeke. forgot my yaoi tax

No. 372269

>>372165
It took me a long time to warm up to Davekat. They do have entertaining chemistry in a comedic Beavis and Butthead kind of way. It's still not my favorite, but it's solid and I'm willing to read fic about them if it's well-written enough.

No. 372339

>>372196
>haru got with stalker makoto in the end
>sosuke found new bf
>the movie npcs got into a polygamous 3p relationship
>rin the only one who got dumped and got no dick
What did Rin do to deserve all this.
Makoto is shit shit. He doesn't deserve haru and rin doesn't deserve all this cucklordy. Makoto must die inshallah.

No. 372343

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>>372339
Shark teeth characters are the worst, all of them deserve to be cucked.

No. 372344

>>372343
water is gay?

No. 372345

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No. 372365

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>>372339
without makoharu we would have never have gotten this obviously yandere!makoto actor AU doujinshi repackaged as original BL, so it was worth it in the end.

No. 372366

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>>372343
i think shark teeth men is cute

No. 372377

>>372343
makoto be my husband instead and let rin and haru be together they have a better dynamic than your unashamed simping

No. 372384

>>372339
I completely forgot that there's more than two seasons of this series, I didn't really like the second season back then so I didn't pay attention to what Kyoani released next. Should I watch the movie or is it as melodramatic as the second season?

No. 372385

>>372339
You're correct nona, makoto a SHIT!

No. 372392

>>371891
>>371916
>>371924
According to insider information it was cancelled because Mappa didn't want to portray gay relationships and thus risk having the entire series banned in China (the largest market for anime outside of Japan) but they couldn't admit it and instead had to make up bullshit reasoning about the anime "not being profitable". That's apparently also why the staff was so evasive about referring to Victor and Yuuri as lovers during interviews and panels. The original creators weren't planning on continuing the series but Mappa wanted to milk the new cash cow that they had in their hands and announced the movie, but wanted it to be only about Victor and not a mention of Yuuri due to said possibilities of marketing it for the Chinese but also complying with their censorship laws. The original creators didn't want to censor themselves so they hit a stalemate as they didn't budge with their creative vision and Mappa didn't want to let the potential million-dollar franchise go, and finally the creators left and the project fell apart.

Shit like this is exactly why I can't stand those edgelord fujos sperging about how they don't give a shit about IRL gay rights and faggots and dykes can burn in hell, how dense do you have to be to not realize how society's views on homosexuality affects the media you consume? God fucking knows how many BL animes we would have as we speak if conservative Asia wasn't so fucking terrified of gay people. And yes, misogyny also definitely plays a role here. If it would've been a male director and a male writer, they would've gotten free range to do whatever they chose to. How many gay animes has Ikuhara shat out during his career with no repercussions?

tl;dr: Mappa got greedy, used fujos as a stepping stone to become a respectable studio and abandoned them after shounen slop became their new pay check. Movie got cancelled because the creators didn't want to comply with China's homophobic censorship laws and Mappa wanted them to.

No. 372394

>>372392
No I'm not going to care about fags because a single communist totalitarian state is upset about drawn homos. Mappa could just not be greedy and stop caring about what China thinks. People need to stop bending over for commies. All media would be better if that happened. You supporting homos would never change China's opinion anyway.

No. 372395

>>372394
OK retard, don't get mad when your favourite author living in a conservative homophobic Asian state gets jailed and whipped for drawing gay shit then.

No. 372396

>>372395
I only like japanese authors, so no I don't care. And again, being pro homo won't stop that from happening. Those shithole countries don't care about what the west thinks, and the west already criticises them for being homophobes.

No. 372398

>>372396
OK retard, don't get mad when your long awaited BL anime adaptation gets cancelled because they can't market it to China and the equally homophobic shareholders agree with their views to begin with and don't even bother to settle for the domestic and western audience.(infighting)

No. 372399

>>372398
Nothing I or anybody can do will stop China from being homophobic. If it were up to me I would remove all their stupid censorship shit that are interfering with movies from other countries, I would even bomb china off the map actually. But no amount of pro homo activism will change China. Saying we should be pro homos to change China's mind is fucking stupid.(a-logging 1.4 billion people in one post)

No. 372402

>>372339
Rin sucked. Worst boy by far.

No. 372403

>>372392
Do you have a source for this? I'm not disbelieving you, I just want to know more.

>>372398
>>372399
It's not worth infighting over imo, but I always find it creepy when countries have laws dictating what kind of sex/relationships it is acceptable for two consenting adults to have. It just strikes me as authoritarian and nanny-state. I'm disgusted by foot fetishists, but I would oppose a government outlawing foot fetishism because that strikes me as an abuse of power.

Also how does this factor in with China's own BL subculture? I'm sure the whole social credit thing complicates matters, but there are Chinese artists, authors, studios, etc. who produce BL. I actually went to college with a Chinese international student who was a huge fujo. Super nice, too.

No. 372407

>>372403
Lesbians are harmless mostly but gay males are horrible irl. Just look at the American gay male population and their misogyny and rampant sexual diseases. And they use the "oppression" the supposedly face to shield themselves from any valid criticism. Don't forget that the original gay rights movement before lesbians joined them were also pro-pedo, and lots of gay males adopt kids to pimp them to pedos and enable and normalize surrogates for that as well. I don't think china and some other anti-gay countries are against it because of the dating and sex aspect, but because of these negatives that come with it. Iirc there's a gay politician in the Shanghai government who's openly married to another man and the laws in that city aren't anti-gay. And I heard from some Chinese people that the cultural reason they dislike homosexuality is simply their bloodline not being continued rather than thinking it's a degenerate thing, and they don't always disown their kids or harass them for it or something, but I'm not 100% sure about that. On a side note I'm really weirded out by this constant demonizing of chinese people I see on the internet, when the chinese population is the most diverse ever with 50+ ethnicities and cultures, and not all chinese people share the same opinions and beliefs. Yet everyone acts like every chinese person ever is the devil incarnate or something and gets surprised when they turn out to be normal people kek. But the countries with actually insane evil vile people are forbidden to get criticized, go figure.(derail)

No. 372408

Unpopular opinions tier conversation going on in here

No. 372412

>>372392
No one is telling male yurifags they need to support the lgbt movement when they mention wanting more yuri anime. Why do women always need to cater to men? Gay men wouldn't give a shit if women were to lose all their rights tomorrow. I'll take no new BL anime being made ever again over gays in my country legally grooming children.

No. 372416

>>372407
go back to /ot/

No. 372419

>>372408
These kind of posts should just be banished to /2X/ honestly

No. 372420

>>372407
>lots of gay males adopt kids to pimp them to pedos
Citation needed. Also take your sperging to a different thread.

No. 372438

>>372407
>and lots of gay males adopt kids to pimp them to pedos
Irrelevant & you are a literal retard if you believe this. Go back to KF and humiliate yourself playing tradcon for the unwashed moids there.

No. 372453

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rewatching this and kyaa the princess carry

No. 372482

>>371891
they really need to give their fans a better explanation than this shit because the way they handled this whole thing is just ridiculous

No. 372484

>>372420
Nta but historically gay men have tried time and time again to get pedophilia recognized as a sexuality, this is a fact. But it's not because they're gay, it's because they're males. I do agree with anon above that no amount of being pro-gay men will ever change China's stance on them, and it's ridiculous so tell women to blindlessly accept everything about the lgbt (including trannies) community just so they can have some bl entertainment that's made by other women anyway. >>372412 is right, men don't need to suck the asses of lesbians to get their yuri more slop at least 3 times a season. Also let's not forget that real men and bl are very different, and men irl (gay or not) regularly attempt to trample women's rights.
But the china thing sounds kinda bullshit considering there are a lot of chinese bl fans and also danmei and shit like genshin are chinese, and they have tons of fujo bait.(derailing)

No. 372499

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So…uh…do any anons here have BL OCs? You guys go first I'm embarrassed

No. 372505

>>372499
There was mention of ancestor of one main guy who was an throne usurper, and years later spin-off protagonist's ancestor mentioned to be his right hand. Just mentions. One of them doesn't even have appearance, so I was brainrotted about them a lot, making their relationship similar to Ignis Scientia/Noctis Lucis Caelum, being assigned to each other from early childhood, raised and trained together, one is quite sentimental, quiet prince yet dutiful and ready to make drastic actions for the goals, and his noble friend who brought into royal guardian conspiracy ready for anything to protect his prince resulting in doom of prosperous realm.
Probably I should've posted it in the writing thread, I just couldn't stop typing, sorry for off-topic.

No. 372511

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>>372392
>insider information
Yeah, and your uncle works at Bandai. Use better bait. Even the Russia war theory is more plausible.
It was cancelled because too many players on the committee wanted that pie, but nobody would take less than what they felt they were entitled too. Couple that with production issues we'll never be privy to (missed Olympics, Wuhan Flu fuckery, potential disagreements as to where the story should go etc.). The film was originally planned to screen in December 2019, then was postponed "in order to substantially scale up the content more than originally planned":
>https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2019-09-05/yuri-on-ice-anime-film-delayed-from-2019-opening/.150800
In 2020 the writer was still working on the script:
>https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2020-04-24/yuri-on-ice-mitsurou-kubo-says-she-still-working-on-the-film-from-home/.158928

If the China market was so all-encompassing and powerful, you'd never get shows like Mahou Shoujo ni Akogarete and Bravern, the latter even being partially produced by Tencent (how do you explain that?).

>>372407
Americans are degenerates in general. The whole 'poly' thing is super-popular in the States. Plus parking lot prostitution and strip clubs everywhere. Even the president's son is a drug addict and had a child with stripper. Unthinkable in Japan.

No. 372513

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>>372419
Lolcow disowned https://lolcow.farm/2X and disappeared it from the menu. Can't antagonise trannies too much, else they retaliate.(derailing)

No. 372514

>>372511
To me BL is hot because faggots are taboo. Males gaining more rights would ruin that fantasy. #KeepGaysOppressed

No. 372515


No. 372516

>>372511
I wish we knew what exactly happened, I always wonder how MAPPA fucked up that badly with such a popular franchise. I want all the details.

No. 372518

HOLD ON because of china I will never get to see hualian kiss on screen, chinese fujos come up with some of the best yaoi ever, with good characterization and an interesting plot but the law is constantly holding them back. we would see more games like nu carnival, more animated BL, more gay live action come out of china because the fujo fanbase is massive there

No. 372520

japanese fujos are boring and care too much about the status quo, korean fujos have shit taste, western and SEA fujos always include random gender troon shit in their work and make the characters too ugly or too old. chinese fujos are literally carrying everyone on their back by producing some of the best content, be it fanart or original stories

No. 372521

>>372520
chinese fujos always draw the same shit set in acient china i am so bored of it

No. 372523

>>372521
that's not true, chinese fujos draw fanart of everything, I've seen them draw western fujo pairings, anime fujo pairings and they're all high quality too

No. 372524

>>372523
I mean the original stuff, not fanart.

No. 372525

>>372523
some chinese fujos even write their posts in japanese so you might mistake them, but they're actually chinese kek

No. 372526

>>372520
I came across a lot of chinese cuntboy art, fanfics and original works. Iirc the whole ao3 getting banned in china thing started with a rpf troon fic. I don't see a point in generalizing BL from a certain country, there's good and bad BL everywhere.

No. 372527

>>372524
yeah most well known danmei in the west is set in ancient china, but there's a ton of slice-of-life, college/school, sci-fi, dystopic danmei that's super popular in the mainland

No. 372528

>>372526
cuntboy really is a plague….

No. 372529

Any other artist nonnie ITT? I would like to someday draw my own BL comic, but i want to get good at art first so it doesn't look like westoid shit. Those best friends to lovers vanilla shit mangas i like that seem non-existent aren't going to write themselves.

No. 372545

>>372518
Yes that's why what you should be supporting is the downfall of their government.
I wonder why some of them don't just publish anonymously in other countries. Surely they could go to a japanese publisher with their already popular series and ask to get paid through an international bank account right? Or is even that banned in china?

No. 372546

>>372499
>>372529
Artist nonnie with my own bl OCs here, I wish I could be friends with you guys but I'm wishing both of you the best with your OC and comic endeavors!

No. 372547

>>372210
I agree, this was a funny cute series making fun of BL universe tropes. I enjoyed it.

No. 372551

>>372513
>not knowing how to link to other boards properly
>not knowing 2x was always a hidden board until retard admin temporarily decided to make it public
>not knowing why it was hidden
>that meme
back to /ot/, newfag

No. 372559

>>372529
i’m slowly learning, yeah. the flavor of BL i like isn’t that popular (i’m guessing — i don’t enough jp to seek it out kek) so i hope to make it myself some day.

No. 372561

>>372529
I also have my own bl ocs/story, I'm slowly working towards improving art so I can maybe one day make a comic. I want to make a bl game too. We can do it nonnie!

No. 372587

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If I wasn't familiar with R+V, I would assumed it's 2010s BL adjacent manhwa.

No. 372588

>>372529
I don't draw often but I'm trying to write a BL novel with my best friend, it's based on a silly yet very popular fairy tale, mixed with a very unexpected movie that she's obsessed with. This small story will be charged with so much autism that it will cause autism, I just know it.
Sometimes we like to draw the main characters and such, but it's nothing too crazy.

No. 372619

>>372529
I wish I had a close fujo friend who could write so I could draw her fanfic and comic ideas. Whenever I see writer/artist duos put those cute author's notes and behind the scenes in their webtoons, I wish that was me

No. 372621

>>372499
i have 2 sets of OCs banging around in my head. id started to write one of the stories down but stopped when i thought about actually posting it anywhere since its original content you kno no one but yourself is interested. the one i started to write down is like a fucked up love triangle with two kennedy-esque rich bros fighting over the younger brother's roommate. the other is about an incubus that gets summoned via a sex-with-a-virgin type ritual.
now you go

No. 372648

>>372619
I have a friend who does this for me, it's very fulfilling. I also write for her. I hope every fujo can have good close fujo friends.

No. 372661

>>372621
I see you're a soap opera dynamics fan. Is it comedic? My OC story is about a remote village that's home to a religious cult that worships anyone born with a rare genetic condition, uke-kun is one of these people. They blind him and lock him up in a shrine/temple from a young age to "protect him from evil". Seme-kun is one of the few boys his age in the village and is basically assigned to help him with basic daily tasks and keep him company. Honestly, it's more focused on the character study of two people being affected by religious trauma and the gay romance is a side plot. I wish it was easier to publish original BL content online. I know royalroad gets decent traffic but most of the readers are male, there isn't any meaningful BL niche on there.

No. 372799

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Why does Mangagamer continue to give work to those woke-infected translators? Should I write them an angry email? I bloody hate American snowflakes and their PC 'culture'.
What he says here is 'aren't we both trannies'.

No. 372808

>>372799
are you the same anon who got called a retard for sperging about how some show translated the word okama in the anime thread months ago? mangagamer isnt the company with that problem, that translation isn't that bad. okama doesn't mean tranny, they could've said queens, queers, or faggots but what they went with is a pretty safe choice. I'm more offended by adelta's own tranny fetish.

No. 372813

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>>372808
>I'm more offended by adelta's own tranny fetish.
I'm kekking. Hard agree. There were already two trannies in Hashihime, she's really got something for them.

Nayrt but I was also bothered by the MG UuuC translation, if you know basic JP it's pretty obvious when Shirou calls him a fucking faggot yet the translation is all sanitized, he doesn't even call him a queer like he would in 1970s America. Bothered me because Shirou is my homophobic husbando. It's not even about calling him an okama, it's about calling him a shitty gay homo. And they censored even that. Big cry.

No. 372825

>>372813
tbf I didn't care for uuuc as a whole so it could be that I'm even less bothered by the translation because of that

No. 372829

>>372808
It can mean tranny. You were proven wrong back then, yet your autism prevents you from admitting your mistake. Pathetic.
>https://www.japanesewithanime.com/2018/02/okama.html

No. 372832

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>>372825
Not enjoying this based schizokino smh…

Filtered, dare I say.

No. 372843

>>372829
>you were proven wrong
I wasn't involved but I vividly remember keking irl when I caught up to the part of the thread where like 10 different anons took turns making fun of you for being such an autist and not a single soul agreed with you. do you want a repeat of that?

>>372832
rinko has good ideas but her execution is shit and all her games have that point where you can tell she got tired of working on it and started sprinting to the finish line. she needs some assistance.

No. 372851

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>>372843
For Uuc it's almost the opposite, the first route is extremely rushed and nonsensical and makes absolutely zero sense, it's only on the second and third routes you can finally take a breather and understand what the fuck is going on. The character interactions are also better and more fleshed out in route 2 and 3. But I do agree UuC is rushed as fuck overall, and so is Hashihime past kawase's route. It's still pretty impressive shit for someone who does it all alone, for UuC only she drew over a 1000 CGs in the span of 3 years.

Still schizokino even with all the flaws, and I dare say the flaws make it better. Nothing more soulful than a doujinge full of flaws, fetishes and autism.

No. 372861

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Who do we poison for this?
>https://www.pixiv.net/info.php?id=10830

No. 372862

>>372861
It's retarded that we can't look at anime men raping each other because of the deepfake law.

No. 372863

>>372851
I got the vibe she wrote uuuc out of order? you know, like how some writers will have certain scenes perfectly mapped out in their heads so writing them is a breeze but then not really know what they want to do with the others. that's the story of her life and in uuuc she really phoned in the parts where she didn't have a clear mental image of how she wanted them to pan out, it wouldn't surprise me if the first route was actually one of the last things she did. soul can be cute and all, but when the main takeaway a game gives me is 'this woman needs a real editor or assistant scenario planner or anything stat' it feels less endearing and more like she's being held back by her own skillset. I didn't enjoy the final products but I might've if they were done better.

No. 372867

>>372861
B-but we can just change our regions manually right? What about pixiviewr?

No. 372868

>>372861
What exactly does this ban?

No. 372869

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No. 372870

>>372869
How would they even determine half of this stuff from just looking at the pictures? Are they gonna ban shonen slop characters that are underage but look grown according to this criteria?

No. 372874

>>372851
I disagree, some schizokino can be fun but hashihime completely loses the plot after kawase's route and it's not even entertaining. The story could have been a masterpiece with the help of someone

No. 372875

>>372870
Tags and probably an automatic censor. They've already been doing this on paid stuff (pixiv booth).

No. 372876

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>>372863
I do understand your point. I'm not sure she did write UuuC out of order, though. Akira and Shou were the only characters drawn and teased for about a year or two after she began working on the new game. She seems to have drawn their CGs and scenes first. With Hashihime too you have more evidence she works in order, the story starts falling apart the longer you play, and it was planned as a kinetic novel without route option from the start.

I still enjoyed her games despite the mess because it's a rarity to have a VN of this quality amongst BLVNs, especially a doujinge. The standards are already not very high and she's doing interesting stuff nobody else was doing, starting by not having a cast of trope BLVN characters of the childhood friend/the rapechad/the blonde stoic/the cutesy moe guy/the old man. Her historical 'tism is also great.

No. 372884

>>372876
I don't know about Uuultrac but the Hashihime cast didn't feel like anything new. Childhood friend, tsundere, deredere, stoic. I've seen it all before and done much better

No. 372894

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>>372884
the plot too honestly, groundhogs day or timeloop fics have been around for a while now. the art's unique and the time period isn't a common sight but the most critically acclaimed bl game in japan has the same one with more attention to historical accuracy. uuuc is weird but not in a super subversive way.

>>372876
we'll never know unless she says so I suppose. that's just the vibe I got from her work because she has a lot of the same issues as other writers who do that. her being the artist makes it harder to tell because some time you come up with your character's design before their attributes and vice versa.

I think there's a ton of quality bl vns out there, hers stand out in some areas like her creativity but not others. I recommend checking out akaaka, it's fully translated.

No. 372898

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>>372894
>the most critically acclaimed bl game in japan has the same one with more attention to historical accuracy
I agree that mebiusline is a masterpiece and does the Taisho setting much better. Hashihime doesn't hold a candle to Mebius but they're not even in the same ballpark, adelta is a doujin circle while holicworks isn't. It's also untranslated so most EOPs have no idea it exists and can't even enter this discussion. I honestly believe that Hashihime is a better game that dMMD or slow damage which were 7/10 slops with only fun aesthetics and music to match, which Hashihime also has albeit at a doujin level. The literary inspirations in Hashihime are also extremely interesting and varied and Dogra Magra was one of the most fucked books I've ever read. It incredibly was ahead of its time for 1930 and it still is. I also enjoy what she did with it in the story.

I know about akaaka and I do like it, used to be my favourite in the mid 2010s. Hashihime is indeed in the same vibe and I'd say it's an apt comparison since both are doujinge. In this sense I agree that all aspects confounded, akaaka is a better game. Too bad it wasn't R18 but the ero in adelta games is honestly abysmal I'd say her games are better off without h-scenes, kek.

No. 372904

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>>372884
>Childhood friend, tsundere, deredere, stoic.
Samefag: Hashihime came out in 2016, so it would be unfair to compare it to other similar doujinge that came out after it like Nie no Machi, so I won't. parade were doing interesting shit back then but their games were still quite niche until slow damage copied NTY!!! in 2020 and they released Lkyt, which is more more palatable to your average fujo. That said, for its time Hashihime did try to do something interesting with the LIs in my opinion. Deredere Hakase and literally irrelevant Hanazawa aside, at least 3 of the guys were in the childhood friends category and the true route is literally adoptive son incest. In the end of Kawase's route Tamamori literally doesn't love him and when it comes to Minakami, if this was a tropey BL made by n+C he'd be the true route instead of the first. So I'd say it did do some interesting stuff in terms of LIs for its time. Especially considering the true route is that no one exists and Tamamori just made them up in his head.

No. 372907

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>>372876
>it was planned as a kinetic novel without route option from the start
Hashihime is my favorite BL game, but it really should've been kinetic. I actually enjoyed the shitty side routes, but I fully acknowledge they were a poor choice. I wish she'd saved them for a fandisk or something, because I think it'd be much easier to recommend to people if they didn't exist in the main game.
>>372884
For me personally, I found the narrator of Hashihime to be unique in terms of BL VNs. A lot of the most popular titles have sort of generically nice MCs, even when they're tsundere. I felt like Tamamori was much more interesting than a lot of the MCs I've encountered. Sorry for the tangent, but in a lot of first-person books I've read, the story does little to 'justify' the narration being in first person (as in, the narrator's perspective feels so dull that it could've been written in the third person and very little would change). I feel like VNs suffer from this to an even greater degree, so seeing Tamamori actually have a unique perspective was a nice change of pace. That's not to say it's the only VN to do that, but I really appreciate it when I encounter it because I think the medium suffers from Generic MC Syndrome.
>>372894
I could see UUUltraC being written out of order, but not Hashihime. Like that other anon implied, it felt too much like the author ran out of steam near the end for her to have written the other routes first. Also, do you have any recommendations for other doujin games? I know it's dumb, but I kind of prefer the unpolished feeling.

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>>372907
>A lot of the most popular titles have sort of generically nice MCs, even when they're tsundere.
If you haven't, you should give Mebiusline a try. Kyou my beloved……

No. 372911

>>372869
Some of these are so vague and hard to enforce, and some are so retarded that it would render Pixiv useless. Like, we can't even have "lewd" content on Pixiv? What the hell?

No. 372922

>>372904
I can't really see the incest route as the true route because it was extremely short and almost seemed like it was only this way to be shocking. As a dadson enthusiast it disappointed me. Also iirc adelta retconned it later anyway. I won't comment on Kawase because he's shit and I hate him. As for the ending, Shingakkou did it better. I believe BL is inherently tropey and I don't see anything wrong with that but the only interesting thing about Hashihime was the setting and Tamamori.

No. 372924

>>372898
>the ero in adelta games is honestly abysmal I'd say her games are better off without h-scene
thisss, this whole post is like we share a brain nona lol I feel the same way about all of what you said, but I'm more harsh with my ratings so I put the nitroplus games are all in the 3 to 6 range. I still had my fun with most of them and would buy merch of my favs at a non-eyepopping price. when you think about it from an eop's perspective where the only vns people in that niche community are talking about about are those, adelta, hadaka, nucarnival, and parade, mainly on a surface level, it's easily one of the better games among those, top 5 at least. but the only REALLY good shit there is parade and their appeal lies entirely with people who can handle eternal suffering, whereas hashihime has a broader appeal and more ~aesthetic~ presentation working in its favor. it's a shame other good bl games with en tl like akaaka are so slept on, no1curr about tokyo onmyoji and ye old animamundi…

No. 372926

>>372924
>but the only REALLY good shit there is parade
Stop shilling your scat games every thread

No. 372929

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>>372907
the cage games are awesome if you want something really fun, edgy, and gorey with a creepy cute art style!! the duo behind those games went on to work at pil/slash and did the scenarios for paradise and its fan disks and dystopia no ou, right now they're working on a new game and a remake of cage with voices. there's this other gothy doujin game called melancholic dream tower that's been in my backlog forever, no voices either but it looks really cool, I still want to play it some day.

>>372926
…what?

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>>372924
>no1curr about tokyo onmyoji
Aw, I care about Tokyo Onmyouji. I thought it was great.
>>372910
Thank you for the rec, nona. Unfortunately, I do not feel confident in my ability to read 45 hours of Japanese (I've finished shorter VNs with a lot of struggling, but due to circumstances in my life, I doubt I'll have the chance to improve, practice, or become proficient for the next few years). This seems even more difficult because I heard the language is quite challenging in Mebiusline. I know another anon has recommended MTLing the Russian patch in a previous thread, but I wouldn't feel right doing that. Maybe, in a few years, I'll have the chance to become skilled enough, but since it's a challenging read, it won't be any time soon.
>>372929
Thank you for the recs, too! I've heard of the Cage series, and they look like a lot of fun.
>melancholic dream tower
I just looked this one up, and it looks EXACTLY like my thing. From the art to the premise, this is the kind of shit I go crazy for kek. It's not terribly long, either, so I could probably manage it with my limited knowledge. Do you know how difficult the language is?

No. 372931

>>372930
>I know another anon has recommended MTLing the Russian patch in a previous thread
NTA but every Russian I've met says their translations are god awful, even for mainstream VNs like danganronpa their translations are shit tier.

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>>372813
>>372808
My tinfoil theory is that writers at adelta are actually terfs masquerading as tranny supporters. You will see them put crossdressers who say shit like wanting to be a woman in their games, but actually paying attention to the narrative makes it clear that the character motivations were fucked
- "Madam" crossdressed because of being gay in a homophobic society, he wanted to be together with his scrote (who eloped with his side ho in the end kek) and also for supernatural reasons (the hashihime are pickme woman hating spirits so they stay away if a man crossdresses, thinking of him as a woman lol). He also acknowledges being male, I mostly see the tif fujos pushing the "madam is a tranny" interpretation
- Naoshi obviously wanted to be a woman so he could be free to pursue Kawase. He did have aesthetic appreciation for girly fashion too, but he was obviously a boy who had a dedicated male exclusive friend circle. It's also telling that Tamamori, the homophobic retard who had to literally go through 10+ bad timelines to accept his own gayness was the one to immediately "affirm" Naoshi as a woman
-cross dressing to keep the hashihime away was done by other characters too and nobody ever implies any of those men were "women"

In UruuC, the okama vs tranny discourse is pointless since jp gay culture is different from the west. Some okama may be confident gay men who just absorbed the whiny fake feminine body language from other okama, while others might have actual gender dysphoria and would larp as women. I support the translator for playing it safe and not using tranny. Anyway, the okama character, despite being pretty af (picrel), doesn't actually act stereotypically feminine (he's the top, doesn't actually wear dresses ever, is aggressive in his pursuing of his love interest). He is also implied to have been a victim of parental emotional abuse and CSA/prostitution. That would fuck up anyone's view of his social gender role
Meanwhile, there is a side character that was a TIF, and she trooned out IMMEDIATELY after being raped by a piggy scrote. She was also a misogynist who described the rape as being "treated like a woman" cuz woman are just holes to rape amirite? Tragically, immediately after she recovered from the trauma of rape, she got into a relationship with another side character who is a downright creep and probably a TIM with an intersection condition (claimed to be neither male or female and implied that they have a small dick). This possible TIM is drawn like a woman and is voiced by one, but his behavior is reddit incel tier, constantly making sexual jokes with everyone and being inappropriate. He also took the rape victim TIF to a hotel to have sex despite her being a minor. She had a creepy worshipping attitude towards him, calling him her goddess and somehow being ok with being fucked by him, it looked like textbook grooming to me. These two characters are what makes me think that adelta is fully aware of the depravity of male trannies and damaged emotional states of the females.

No. 372942

>>372933
>writers
theres only one, adelta is indie and I don't think she's a terf in any way. she's made some weird comments on lesbians in the past.

>>372930
I'm not sure how difficult it is to read but I have read it uses some euphemisms and vague language here and there, but overall it shouldn't be a nightmare to read with mtl help.

No. 372943

>>372940
Weird how? Share the tea nona
Even if adelta turns out to be homophobic or something, doesn't rule out the possibility of her being a person critical towards the gender nonsense.

No. 372963

>>372933
>Naoshi obviously wanted to be a woman so he could be free to pursue Kawase
That shouldn't be his reason for trooning out. In the early 20th century it was somewhat common for students to have sex with other males, particularly younger and feminine ones because they thought having sex with women would make them weak and feminine. I like your theory but she probably just thinks troonism is interesting as it's getting more popular in japan. A true transphobe would know that having no trannies in media would be better than them being negatively depicted.

No. 372965

>>372963
I'm pretty sure Naoshi didn't want to only fuck Kawase, he wanted actual love. Having sex on the down low is one thing, actually becoming a couple recognized by society is another. Since a long time ago moids have fucked each other whenever they didn't have any women around them for an extended time, and many overall conservative societies pretended to not have any problems with gay sex, but it was always assumed that in the end everyone will become "normal" and do their duty to society aka procreate with a woman. Japan has never been progressive in this regard, they just changed their style of hypocrisy.

>A true transphobe would know that having no trannies in media would be better than them being negatively depicted.

This I agree with tho, based

No. 372971

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What are some old or "outdated" yaoi tropes you still like? Creepy rapey seme/immature tsun uke is still my shit, bonus points if there's an age gap. It's a shame you don't see couples like this in modern bl anime anymore

No. 372972

naoshi only ever crossdressed and tamamori was the one who insisted he was a tranny, i don't know why people act like he is canon. its just that tamamori is a unreliable narrator that thinks he knows best, you aren't supposed to trust what he says.

No. 372976

>>372971
I like the "nooo yamete" bullshit the girly ukes would spew during sex kek. Ofc my requirement is that the reason for their no needs to be "it feels too good" and not because it's literally rape, rapist semes disgust me

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>>372924
>but the only REALLY good shit there is parade and their appeal lies entirely with people who can handle eternal suffering, whereas hashihime has a broader appeal and more ~aesthetic~
Spot on. Hashihime is babby's first non-n+C BLVN. I still think it's a good game but if you consider the entire space, parade's writing quality is greatly superior and even eclipses slow damage imo despite the fun music and aesthetics because the story was complete assblasted garbage. If you consider untranslated stuff then you have of course Shingakkou and Mebiusline which are in the kamige tier. But most people have no idea about those except by name.

>>372922
>As a dadson enthusiast it disappointed me.
Same my nonnie Irks me she couldn't even commit and keep ojisan Tamamori for the 13 picosecond adelta Quality h-scene. Truly the mark of a coward and a missed opportunity.

Though my most painful incestfag disappointed moment was in the nie no machi fandisk. Oh Izumi Banya…

>>372930
Mebiusline isn't even actually that bad, especially with >current year MTL as help. The complicated kanji is mostly for aesthetics and in the chants and stuff, which you don't really need to understand. The ruskis who did the patch have a bunch of documents which help give context to a lot of the story and mythology in the story, which are easily translatable into English. If you can read basic jp there's really no point in MTL the Russian TL, just take playing the game as a learning opportunity, the complicated aspect of the game is greatly overhyped. It's mostly the history and mythology references which are complicated. Do it for Kyou, the best boy protagonist of any BL game. Tamamori pales in comparison. Also the fandisk is literally peak.

Also 45 hours kek, more like a month. Especially if you have a job and play in jp. But that's the whole fun of playing untranslated VNs.

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>>372971
i miss teacher/student pairings, tall, wide masculine seme/short feminine uke and the gay for you trope.

No. 372989

>>372971
I miss the shalala flower effects…

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>>372971
Same, it's my favorite trope. It's still relatively common in Korean BL, especially historical ones like Steel Under Silk, but it definitely doesn't feel the same anymore and it feels practically extinct in anime. I read Low Tide in Twilight because it has that dynamic, but it's omegaverse kek.

No. 373004

>Kuso miso's up and translated
Nice.
https://nyaa.si/view/1808255

No. 373007

>>373004
nice! I forgot this was happening, thank you

No. 373010

>>372869
If this keeps me from seeing those hyper-realistic 3d child porn images of fictional children when I'm looking for westaboo artists I will accept whatever other censoring comes with it. But it probably won't because there's always a way around these bans

No. 373013

>>372978
>Mebiusline isn't even actually that bad
Not arguing with you, but I've seen people say there's a lot of technical terminology? Would it help to familiarize myself with any specific terms beforehand?
>bunch of documents which help give context to a lot of the story and mythology in the story
I'll also look into this, thanks. I'll probably give it a try whenever life calms down, but I do not feel confident in my patience or ability at all. It's one of those VNs I really want to read because I deeply enjoyed Tokyo Onmyoji (it probably wouldn't make my top 3, but definitely top 5). I'm worried about ruining it for myself if I read it before I am truly prepared. At the same time, I'm far too busy to ever be 'fully prepared,' so maybe I should just dive in. I appreciate the advice you've given, though.

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>>372985
godtier taste, seisub has never been topped.

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GOD FUCKING DAMMIT I HATE HAVING A NICHE SHIP FROM A NICHE FANDOM WHERE ALL THE FUJOS IN IT ARE OBSESSED WITH ONE SHIP SPECIFICALLY AND ITS NOT MINE AND THERES NEXT TO NO CONTENT OF IT AND LIKE NO ONE ELSE THAT SHIPS IT I HATE IT I HATE IT I HATE IT

No. 373049

>>373024
Weissman and Joshua… Kinda based but I can't get behind it because I actually like Estelle and Joshua an inordinate amount.
Not sure if you're talking about Mueller/Olivier or Reane/Crow as the one ship fujos care about but I hate both.
Kinda ashamed to admit it but Zero had the best M/M for me, I liked both Wazy/Wald and Lloyd/Randy. I always aim for the latter when I play Crossbell arc because the hetshit pisses me off the most in those games.

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>>372160
Shitsuren Junky

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>>373013
>Not arguing with you, but I've seen people say there's a lot of technical terminology? Would it help to familiarize myself with any specific terms beforehand?
That's mostly about the mythology and the magic system, which is nothing unseen and the same as in Jujutsu Kaisen, for example. The Russians again have a bunch of documents explaining it including a 30 page glossary. The russian translator is a Japanese history major iirc. If you're already interested in Japanese history, mythology and shintoism it's not that difficult and extremely enjoyable to see what Rosa does with it in-game. Most of the stuff that shows up in-game you can Google it.

>I'm worried about ruining it for myself if I read it before I am truly prepared. At the same time, I'm far too busy to ever be 'fully prepared,' so maybe I should just dive in. I appreciate the advice you've given, though.

You're welcome, my nonnie. And don't worry about it, I find it a shame the difficulty of this game is so overstated because I was similarly put off from playing the game for years because I didn't believe my Japanese skills were enough. I even started it by MTLing the russian translation like some suggested, kek. But once I started I realized if I was gonna MTL, might as well play it in japanese with MTL and dictionary assist anyway. Maybe it would be more difficult but on top of experiencing the original writing I'd be actively bettering my japanese, so I switched and I'm glad I did. Took me a long time 3 months to finish it with life etc. but it was a great learning experience and allowed me to experience an absolutely 10/10 amazing game.

It is starting to show its age though, having come out in 2011. The art is a bit wonky and the UI is quite old, and it does have some 2011-era tropes, but it's still kamige tier and Kyou is one of the best protagonists with the most personality and inner life despite looking like a generic uke. He's my son and I love him.

Hope you get to playing it one day nonna and join the misakifag alliance.

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>>373049
I like estelle/joshua too and think it’s adorable, but weissmann/joshua ticks all my boxes in what I look for in a ship (also Joshua’s like my chew toy and I like seeing him suffer kek).

>Not sure if you're talking about Mueller/Olivier or Reane/Crow as the one ship fujos care about but I hate both.

Crowrean, I like it but it’s safe yaoi and you have all the moids in the fanbase who are desperate for pussy “ship” it. Osborne/rean is where it’s at.

>Zero had the best M/M for me, I liked both Wazy/Wald and Lloyd/Randy. I always aim for the latter when I play Crossbell arc because the hetshit pisses me off the most in those games.

Both of these are good. I like randy/wazy/lloyd a lot and love the thought of both of them corrupting lloyd from a cop into a slut. Also I fucking hate the hetshit in crossbell as well especially with elie and cecile, that was when it really went from a cozy jrpg to otaku pandering slop but that’s a topic for another day.

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>>372972
I love unreliable protagonists, plus Tamamori is so retarded that he looks cute to me outside of shitting his pants and eating vomit instead. Playing hashihime while trying to figure out what is the truth and what is Tamamori pulling stuff out of his ass was so fun ngl.

No. 373119

>>372661
your story sounds really interesting, wish I could read something like that. if you ever post it, I hope you'll shill it here kek

No. 373179

>>372924
This post has to be a joke. Hashihime ero is way better than garbage parade sex scene where half of the uke just lay there and basically fall asleep.

No. 373180

>>372843
>rinko has good ideas but her execution is shit and all her games have that point where you can tell she got tired of working on it and started sprinting to the finish line. she needs some assistance.

She's a doujin author who did most stuff alone, if anything it's impressive. Yeah Hashihime doesn't stick to the landing, but 80% is great at the end of the day.

>>372907
It's because Tamamori has like legit flaws, even his brand of tsun felt refreshing and more because he's a legit pompous ass


>>372922
>hate kawase
What the fuck

No. 373181

>>372963
>That shouldn't be his reason for trooning out.
It's actually a very common reasons. Teenagers boy and girls who experience attraction to the same genre often wish they could just be "the other genre" so their crush would feel attracted. I experienced it myself and I know gay dudes who felt the same.

It's why kids trooning out is child abuse and extremely fucked up, since kids and teen have a poor sense of sense and are very malleable.

The new NC visual novel actually features a whole subplot about it, where the character called Rei feels like he should be a woman so he can be "gay" and why trannies character are easier to get in JP media than two guys.

No. 373182

>>372843
>I wasn't involved but I vividly remember keking irl when I caught up to the part of the thread where like 10 different anons took turns making fun of you for being such an autist and not a single soul agreed with you. do you want a repeat of that?
So all of them were you on VPNs, got that. Also using the 'appeal to the uninformed opinion of the majority' argument. Give me a break. Going with your 'logic', troons are women and there is an ongoing trans genocide.

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>>373179
Adelta ero is literal garbage, put down the pipe.

No. 373184

>>372971
i also miss very clear distinction between uke and seme, as well as small feminine ike’s and big burly semes. i love contrast and size difference kek, i can’t really get into twunk x twunk at all. or i mean i can but it’s like not my preferred flavor

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>>372894
>uuuc is weird but not in a super subversive way.
It doesn't need to be. Something like Madoka can be subversive, because it's building upon a genre that is known as being cute, frilly fun for little girls. Toku, kaijuu and mecha shows already contain dark or adult themes and convoluted plots. The only way for UUUC to be subversive would be if it was the opposite of that - simplistic, sparkly setting, cute little boys in spandex being retarded and partaking in Pokemon tournaments with kaijuu perhaps? Who would even be the target audience for something like this (aside from shotafags)?

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>get excited because /fujo/ is active
>almost all the posts are the same barely literate schizo with shit taste spamming the thread
One of the mosr soul crushing experiences of being a lc user. Picunrel

No. 373195

>>373179
Maki hscenes in NTY cured my insomnia

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I really like cute sweet tops who are insatiable in bed, any manga/webtoons recs nonas?

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>>373183
if i had to give a top 10 bl sex scenes of all time this one game would have the whole top 5 in a vise grip

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>>372933
>I support the translator for playing it safe and not using tranny.
But she totally missed the point by translating okama as 'drag queen'. How is Isshiki a 'drag queen' when he dresses like a man, looks like a man (broad shoulders), doesn't even wear make-up or long hair? Yet he gets called that again and again. How does it make any sense? And how can you use 'drag queen' as a slur in English? Just call him a fag and be done with it - it's not like you have to translate the same word in the exactly same way every time, because context maters a lot. It looks to me as if a censor swept through the final draft and replaced anything 'offensive' with PC culture words. Ironic coming from a company specialising in adult content. I guess gendies and their sympathisers shouldn't be even playing these games, because they act like children (or at least that's what MG is scared of - retards with arrested development throwing tantrums on twatter).

>Meanwhile, there is a side character that was a TIF, and she trooned out IMMEDIATELY after being raped by a piggy scrote. She was also a misogynist who described the rape as being "treated like a woman" cuz woman are just holes to rape amirite?

It was so frustrating. Shirou refers to Sapphire as 'he' and I have no clue whether it was the same in the Japanese text or is MG censoring again. Because it would be so weird for his character to bash trannyfaggots on one hand and totally accept a girl's new-found boymodder identity on the other. It's so all over the place. Breaks my immersion.

>another side character who is a downright creep and probably a TIM with an intersection condition (claimed to be neither male or female and implied that they have a small dick)

I don't think Uran is a TIM? You can see the tits in the love hotel scene and they look natural. Plus she uses a strap-on. I don't think any character sees her self-proclaimed micropenis - her boasting about what's not there might as well be her way of getting sexual attention and she's hypersexual. Shirou also would be calling Uran a trannyfaggot left and right if she was a TIM, but he doesn't.

>behavior is reddit incel tier, constantly making sexual jokes with everyone and being inappropriate

Actually the first character archetype that comes to my mind is the harem anime (usually) blonde bimbo that is super-aggressive in trying to get into the MC's pants and always using her big breasts to smother the guy.

> it looked like textbook grooming to me

Textbook lesbian grooming, more like.

No. 373199

>>373197
>glasses
Ruined. Throw the whole game out

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>>373199
you're reaching uncharted levels of shit taste. didn't even know meganehate was a thing.

No. 373202

>>373201
Keep your googly-eyed scrote to yourself

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>>373179
C'mon nona.

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I'll remember this, MG. Autists here like to rage at JAST for switching the writing from the 3rd to the 1st person in Slow Damage, but MangaGamer does equally atrocious things.

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>>373195
They cured my ham and sent me $300 on cashapp idk maybe all that sleep deprivation took its toll on your brain cells https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/losing-sleep-can-lead-brain-damage-scientists-warn

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>>373199
Unironically, I agree. I bullied Seiji extra hard because he was a retarded binoclard. Ending A was so satisfying. The moment I had a choice he didn't have glasses anymore, based parade for giving us the option to remove the atrocities.

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>>373206
Where is my Shirou who would say

>I was raped by a trannyfaggot


Sasuga MG………

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>>373004
Thanks! I'm watching it now!

No. 373213

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thread going to shit while the burgers are at work, somepony give us a good old fashioned controversial personality quiz to combat the uuultrac sperg's terrorism

or a ship version of the 'post your husbando and we'll make assumptions about you' thread

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>>373211
>character arc is about internalised homophobia
>erases homophobia in the translation
Twitter clapped. Fuck you, MG, and, once again FUCK YOU.
How can anybody defend this? Why aren't more people mad?

No. 373221

>>373217
Literally no1curr. You're being annoying and all your takes are terrible. Go back to the /ot/ infighting threads.

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>>373213
>to combat the uuultrac sperg's terrorism
You posted this on the wrong website and in the wrong thread.
Husbandofagging also has its own thread
>>>/m/211556

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>>373221
Stop shitting up the thread with your policing attempts. Just ignore my posts if you don't like them. Can't be that hard.

>no1curr

OUT

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>>373221
Relax, sis. Why are you getting so heated over some simple complaining about trannypandering translator shills?

No. 373230

>malding this hard over a kusoge
>autistic desire to wage war against vn translators
>awful taste
>old twitter and cuckchan filenames
starting to think this might be my personal cow?

No. 373231

>>373223
Nta and I'm sorry if you're too autistic to notice, but if you repeatedly try to talk about a topic and nobody else is joining in, it's time to stop posting. The polite thing to do is move on when nobody wants to discuss it. Maybe this will help: https://www.quora.com/What-should-you-do-if-someone-just-keeps-talking-about-a-topic-you-are-not-interested-in

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>>373231
>>373230
Just stop. You're being embarrassing. You also failed to read the thread.

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>>373224
Perhaps because it hits too close to home for her kek.

No. 373234

>>373232
No try again. The correct response is not to insult and belittle people. You should say something like "sorry I just really like this game, but I understand and will post about it less often".

No. 373235

>>373232
you're replying to two different anons. several different anons have told you to fuck off now. you failed to integrate into the thread, your autism is telling you reading the rules is enough but what it's not telling you is you're sorely lacking in the social awareness department.

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This infighting is stupid, look at this cute standee instead.

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>>373209
Hell will be hot for you and that rat bastard Daichi

No. 373238

>>372971
'Only gay for you' used to be more popular in the past and I miss it.

No. 373239

>>373237
Redpill me on Seiji and why you like him so much

No. 373240

>>373191
be the change you want to see in the thread, sister. u got any links to drop for good slam dunk stuff?

No. 373241

>>373230
There are bugs crawling under your skin.

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>>373234
>>373235
You're the same shitter that bullied NuCarnival posters to another thread, aren't you. Do better.(infighting)

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I don't know what in the lover's quarrel is going on, I simply simp for this trannyhater homophobic homo.

No. 373246

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Worst BL you've read/watched?
I'm going with Sayonara Nanashi violin, gorgeous art but impressively retarded plot.

No. 373249

File: 1713904925337.png (1.05 MB, 1225x762, 65.png)

>>373239
>princely megane
>selfless, gentle, moe but sometimes teasing to his bestie
>smokes only to piss off his dad
>takes 3 baths a day
>every attempt at a relationship with a woman has failed because he set off their gaydars
>get to watch his soul progressively get crushed by daily rapings in the game
>wears a nipple chain everyday to his government job and becomes his former childhood bff's battered anal slut in bad end
>pink hole
>naturally hairless legs, pits, and ass
He's the perfect man

No. 373250

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>>373249
daisei forever

No. 373251

>>373246
Zankokuna kami. Ugly art, unlikable characters and way too much melodrama

No. 373252

>>373246
This was great, what is up with the shit taste itt. My entry: There is a lot garbage tier JP BL out there but wow they cannot hold a candle to the slop factories in KR. Even as a slop enjoyer, I could not stomach Yours to Claim and cannot fathom it's popularity. It doesn't even have good art like Painter of the Night or Jinx to justify sitting through it

No. 373253

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>>373249
Amemiya has a fetish for meganes and I will never forgive him. He'd be perfect if he wasn't an ugly binoclard. Literally megane characters trigger my autistic rage, kek. Would put them all in a blender and switch it on. Rn9 only redeems itself because you can torture him out of his mind.

same reason I can't stand Ryu in nty

No. 373254

>>373252
>This was great
The only thing you get from it is good pics for ‘out of context’ threads. The actual plot was fucking retarded (doesn’t help that I think their seme/uke roles should have been reversed)

No. 373255

>>373253
>I can’t stand Ryu
Why? He’s about as much of a dead fish as Maki is.

No. 373256

File: 1713905720380.jpg (847.67 KB, 1920x1080, imagine.jpg)

>>373245
He should have gotten with somebody better than Isshiki. I really was hoping for 'what if' scenarios in the other two chapters where Shou would hook up with different guys, including Shirou. Imagine the bullying.(ban evading)

No. 373257

>>373256
Shou is not a slut, he’s very loyal to Akira

No. 373258

>>373252
I think it's because there is so fucking much Korean BL. I swear I turn my back for a week and there's like 5 new titles. A lot of it is slop garbage, but I think it's a symptom of oversaturation and quantity being prized over quality. Sometimes it feels like even the author doesn't care anymore.

No. 373259

File: 1713905982230.png (592.46 KB, 750x540, image-8.png)

>>373255
Maki is hot and has great tits. Ryu is ugly and is a megane. Maki is emotionally challenged because he was kidnapped and raped by mexican cartels when he was 12. Ryu has no excuse for the way that he is. Boo hoo my sister shut the fuck up, you don't know what real suffering is.

No. 373260

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>>373253
Has Ryu not suffer enough for you, optosadistchan? Shot in the head execution style, throat slit, subjected himself to progressively more obscene sexual harassment climaxing at a catheter being shoved down his dick in the blink of an eye all for the grind, then finds out the grind was in vain, one of the worst things you can get isekai'd as is a parade megane

No. 373262

>>373255
>men being raped and pressured into sex
>complains about them being dead fish as they use every cell in their body to try and hide how much they like it until they physically can't anymore
are you a rapephobe? be honest

No. 373263

>>373262
Maki just treated getting raped like he was doing his taxes, nothing he ain’t used to baby.

No. 373265

File: 1713906634099.jpg (159.06 KB, 500x500, 42449389_p1_master1200.jpg)

>>373263
the king is built different i wasn't talking about him

No. 373266

File: 1713906795670.jpg (125.02 KB, 765x1224, 20230226_152443.jpg)

>>373260
Kek nona. I actually cheered when he got his throat cut for absolutely no reason, like that was so unnecessary and came out of nowhere. It was kinda funny. You can see they were playing with the megane sadism already in nty!!!, he's kind of a proto-Seiji. I'll say his only appeal is being innocent and getting used and abused by Haru, but in that aspect the old man's route does it better and I like innocent Hiroshi more. At least Hiroshi has inner strength and has dignity even when he's being a slut and dying. My ideal play through of NTY is Hiroshi>Maki>Kouichi and then stopping. The game is literally perfect then. Ryu remains unbothered and asexual the way he likes it.

No. 373269

>>373266
Kind of a strange take since Ryu is the closest thing the game has to a true end.

No. 373270

File: 1713907874991.jpg (428.82 KB, 2048x1536, r_215615.jpg)

>>373266
What cursed you with this megane hate? His appeal is being the perfect wife and closest thing to fuckable Rikuto, both were headed down the incel drain til they got their shit together for their siblings. Also his powerful kicks and sensitive pink nippu.

>Ryu remains unbothered and asexual the way he likes it

But he needs a nuclear family to put his maternal instincts to good use…

No. 373271

>>373269
Not really. I'd say Kouichi's route is the most plot relevant as it's where the end answers the mystery of the prologue. But don't take my word for it, the official works book calls Kouichi's route "the meat" and Ryu's "the dessert". Ryu's entire point is to be palate cleanser after heavy plot shit. Thankfully I don't usually order dessert.

No. 373273

File: 1713908596320.png (1.75 MB, 1334x750, IMG_7676.png)

I don’t think there’s any megane character that I feel strongly about. Except Togami, he’s fun.

No. 373275

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>>373270
>that diorama
Wow, I love female autism….

Just something in me that makes me violently despise a stoic but sensitive man wearing eyeglasses except Kim Kitsuragi will admit. I also similarly hate men in suits, they're just too put together and sometimes they might even wear glasses which at that point is just going too far.

>But he needs a nuclear family to put his maternal instincts to good use…

He can adopt the little girl and just be a happy, asexual single dad.

No. 373276

>>373275
>except Kim Kitsuragi will admit
NTA but I'm pissed you made me google that and see that disgustingness.

No. 373280

File: 1713909795750.jpg (1.22 MB, 1402x791, 1000015409.jpg)

>>373198
Ayrt You do have a point that the drag queen does seem to imply that he dresses like a woman when he doesn't. I hate the word choice a little more now.
Regarding Shirou's transpandering: I wonder if it's a translator choice too, this is reminding me of Tamamori's naoshi affirmation and feels even worse since, like you said, shirou is an edgy mf who wouldn't do the pronoun sht. I played the steam version of uuuruc in English but I do know JP, maybe I'll pirate the JP version and check out that line sometime kek.
>>373224
Real, I've noticed that every time someone casually brings up trannies as a part of any sort of criticism about a game, a number of anons (or maybe one anon and her army of alts) start absolutely malding over derailing blah blah even if the criticism is based on facts. In the last thread the nu carnival nonnas that got bullied out of the thread were also on the middle of discussing tiffanies shitting up their fandom experience right before they got booted. Very sus
Picrel unrelated to this discussion

No. 373283

>>373280
almost as if anons don't want to talk about trannies 24/7 365 here when there are already threads to contain that all over lc. deadass sus behavior fr fr.

>>373276
nta either but he's a "ugly in game cuter in fanart" character

No. 373285

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>>373276
>she doesn't get it
Play Disco Elysium and find out. That ugly binoclard mongrel unironically has hordes of straight men falling in love with him. Somehow, his sex appeal was genetically engineered in a lab.

>>373280
Anon must have been picrel kekk

No. 373286

File: 1713910675221.jpeg (202.33 KB, 1242x659, 1591612686645.jpeg)

>>373199
>>373209
Based glasses-hating nonas. I do actually like Seiji, but if you choose to keep the glasses on, you are wrong and I hope you are able to heal from whatever made you this way.

No. 373287

File: 1713910737655.png (1.23 MB, 844x1199, 1569026812172.png)

>Kaworu and Shinji fucked during the fade to black bedroom scene

No. 373288

I cannot believe you guys made a fucking slur for men who wear glasses. Based.

No. 373290

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>>373275
He needed haru-kun's magic dick to be happy and you know it

No. 373291

File: 1713911035106.jpg (150.61 KB, 743x934, 20240421_205026.jpg)

Why's the thread so bad today

No. 373292

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>>373286
You're objectively right and this is a high IQ take. The only correct answer is to yeet their glasses as soon as you can and leave them scrambling on the ground like pathetic worms.

No. 373293

File: 1713911287307.jpg (46.78 KB, 400x453, IMG_20191125_221405.jpg)

>>373290
why when that dick is put to much better use inside his not!dad

No. 373295

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>>373280
if they were actually bothered by tranny discussion simply because they're sick of it they would demand to stop bringing up games with canon trannies instead. (i'm using they/them pronouns as to not misgender this thread's resident aiden)

No. 373296

>>373295
>they would demand to stop bringing up games with canon trannies instead
I wish they would. How can you be surprised when games with pro-troon bullshit in them end up being loved and localized by troons?

No. 373297

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>>373246
There are a lot of answers I could give, but I'll say Wrong Night Stand. If the characters had an IQ above room-temperature, they could've resolved the conflict in 1/4 the time. The story introduces the protagonist's fucked up and evil ex-boyfriend as a love rival. He's initially nice, but it turns out he's actually a secretly evil sociopath whose only hobby is humiliating others by dating them. I swear he was only introduced to make the main LI look better by comparison, which is a shame, because at least that guy was unintentionally funny with how over-the-top evil he was. The protagonist has the Webtoon Uke Phenotype, and the art is very flat and wooden.

No. 373300

File: 1713912660714.jpg (261.74 KB, 836x1077, 62489418_p3_master1200.jpg)

>>373293
Ossan cute but lacks the tradwife factor, to the display hallway he goes

No. 373308

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>>373280
shirou is referred to as identifying as third sex in japanese, i googled it since i wanted to know why they called him nonbinary in his english profile. he is really supposed to be ~in between~, i think.

No. 373317

>>373246
The worst crap I ever read was Pearl Boy. I think a lot of the worst stuff I ever read was Manhwa. There’s a few bad JP bl but nothing as bad as what slops out of SKorea.

No. 373357

>>373308
Do you mean Bell/Suzu/Isshiki? Shirou is our faggot-hating edgy boy. Also can you please share the JP info sauce?

No. 373359

>>373259
Wasn't Ryu raped by his female cousin and his sister by that cousin's dad?

No. 373361

I want to go back to no thank you, only played hiroshis route more than 7 years ago and I don't remember anything. I don't want to replay his route though so can the no thank you shilling nonnies here spoil me what happened in his route? Like his backstory what happened etc?

No. 373375

>>373361
he was cute but retarded a little bit and then he died horribly
>>373359
yes, after his parents died horribly. his sister didn't i think but the uncle was a creep for sure so he left with her because he was paranoid she was going to and become depressed like him.

No. 373386

>>373359
raped by a woman no such thing.

No. 373395

File: 1713942533570.png (662.53 KB, 1028x776, piyoshi.png)

>>373361
Pain. That's what happened.
Why don't you want to play his route again? He was my favorite, so I think you're missing out (sorry in advance to the very dedicated NTY anons. You don't have to tell me I have shit taste. I know. I am aware. I cannot change this.).

No. 373402

>>373395
If you like both guys to be into the sex, Hiroshi is obviously best boy, not shit taste at all

No. 373403

File: 1713944417944.jpg (652.83 KB, 740x640, IMG_20191221_175335.jpg)

>>373395
Nta he was also my favourite before the dadson masterpiece route so I support you, nonnie. Hiroshi is one of the most whorish ukes in a BL and seeing him slowly transform into a JAV star was incredible. That seiyuu seriously talented, kek. But I also like loud ukes which might be unpopular. Excited to play Azuma's game later this week. Any nonnies who are gonna buy Paradise?

No. 373405

File: 1713946031690.jpg (1.13 MB, 3225x2419, mywalletdead.jpg)

>>373403
I already played paradise in JP and wrote reviews about it so nah. I may have bought it just to support devs (I'm a crazy Azuma simp) but I don't trust JAST after their buttslut bullshit with slow damage. Paradise is probably going to be less affected by any added vulgarity since the characters are potty mouthed in the first place, but I read the post of a blogger who played the game early that they put stuff like "boomer" "zoomer" etc in the text so I'm not hopeful.

No. 373406


No. 373407

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>>373395
i love piroshi but the problem is his competition is so stacked i rank him last by default. he's still the cutest.

No. 373420

File: 1713952399440.jpg (1.38 MB, 675x899, IMG_20191221_175018.jpg)

>>373405

Damn, really? I thought since it wasn't being translated by that obese Taisho x Alice narcissistic pickme trannylator it would be fine. What she did with slow damage was so bad it was almost comical. I never cared much for paradise so I didn't go through the effort of playing it in JP so I'm open to playing the localisation even if it's by loocalizers. I'd be pissed if they ruined a game I actually cared about, though.

Not to deanonymize you, but hope I get to read your review on it after I play. Also if that's yours, impressive collection.

No. 373421

>>373246
>This image
KEK. It makes it look like he's talking to the violin?

No. 373424

File: 1713954031932.jpg (690.82 KB, 1920x1080, gigahon.jpg)

>>373280
>maybe I'll pirate the JP version and check out that line sometime kek
Thanks nonna!

>Real, I've noticed that every time someone casually brings up trannies as a part of any sort of criticism about a game, a number of anons (or maybe one anon and her army of alts) start absolutely malding over derailing blah blah even if the criticism is based on facts.

It only proves that we have a gendie in this thread, perhaps even as a mod. It's one thing to get upset if troonism is brought up out of nowhere and causes 60+ off-topic replies, but if it's related to the thread (BL media), it's absolutely not derailment. The T brigade is invading and infiltrating more and more online spaces, sometimes in insidious ways. Just keep that in mind.

>>373283
I do want to shit on troons and pooners whenever an opportunity presents itself. Your manipulation tactics are very middle school.

No. 373425

File: 1713954332950.jpg (676.84 KB, 1920x1080, degen.jpg)

>>373296
Which games again? Surely not UUUC where okama rapists proliferate. I doubt Slow Damage is painting trannies in a light they'd like to be portrayed in either.(ban evading)

No. 373428

File: 1713955165003.jpg (346.04 KB, 1920x1080, 口.jpg)

>>373257
That's boring though.
I want Shirou to call Shou all kinds of names, like

dick-addicted pansy
schlong-twisting pouf
bum-cruising nance
semen-slurping shirtlifter
T-bagging ponce
fairy butt pirate
shaft-licking bumder
disease-ridden fruit
rod-sucking catamite
queerdo friend of Dorothy
tush-wiggling bender
faglord anal assassin
cock-gurgling poofter
prick-appreciating flamer
pozzloaded buggerer
buns-humping gaywad
manhole sausage rider
wang-obsessed sodomite
veteran rear admiral
cum-guzzling battyboy(ban evading)

No. 373442

>>373424
>It only proves that we have a gendie in this thread
I swear I've seen a screenshot of this thread discussing uuultraC and it's tranny pandering on tumblr by a gendie who captioned it with something like 'if you don't like transgenders you shouldn't play adelta games'. I don't think I can find the post anymore but I'm about 90% sure I remember the right username. I also believe the lowercase ntyfag is a tif.

No. 373444

>>373442
kek, this fandom is really too small. Wouldn't be surprised if some of the posters ITT larp as protroon on tumblr and xitter.

No. 373446

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>>373442
Nevermind, it's a little different from what I remember but I was able to find the post.

>>373444
It's one thing to just put he/they pronouns in your bio and call it a day. I went through her whole blog and there were just way too many pro troon posts for me to believe this person isn't pro troon herself.

No. 373447

>>373446
I'm laughing at this typical tumblrtard reading comprehension
>Adelta: bizarre tranny fetish shit sprinkled in everywhere. Isshiki is still third gender by the end of the route.
>Rei: route is about rejecting gender ideology and accepting he's just a gay man

Of course they wouldn't get it.

No. 373448

File: 1713961250691.jpg (335.31 KB, 781x803, abe-san!!!.jpg)

>>373446
>>373442
It's this post >>>/m/298470 btw.
Never knew LC was so popular to be mentioned on tumblr, let alone make somebody seethe over media posts.

>I went through her whole blog and there were just way too many pro troon posts for me to believe this person isn't pro troon herself.

Remember when the fujo hate came solely from ignorant moids and online trolls? Good times.

No. 373449

>>373446
>love watching fujos under the microscope
The arrogance and lack of self-awareness on display is just stunning. This is a woman browsing two different female-dominated websites to talk about a BL game, a genre that literally only women give a shit about, and somehow she thinks that she's above fujos and that she gets to "study them under a microscope". Bitch, that's you. You're the fujo. You're so fujo that the fujo brainrot has deluded you into thinking you're not even a woman. Stop trying to "study" other women "under a microscope" and take a good, hard look at yourself. Holy shit this actually pissed me off.

No. 373450

File: 1713962101003.png (Spoiler Image,915.4 KB, 1080x1460, for your eyes only.png)

>>373442
>I also believe the lowercase ntyfag is a tif
no, you're just a weirdo. i'm the artfag who came up with and drew those stupid gijinkas, picrel, as well as a really shitty ms paint PPP mouse edit that was the op pic of a shoeonhead thread years ago. never been public on any form of social media and i hate troons and adeltas tifkino games, good luck on the next faildox.

No. 373453

>>373205
What fucking bait? NTY having terrible sex scenes where Uke barely do anything is a common opinion.

No. 373454

File: 1713962594278.webp (Spoiler Image,359 KB, 950x1349, Contradict-12.webp)

What do people think of dick redraws?

No. 373455

>>373447
Shit vs poop

No. 373457

>>373450
Not sure where you think I was implying that you like adelta games or use social media. You act like an underage attention whore that's why I called you a tif.

No. 373459

File: 1713963815863.jpg (58.87 KB, 1024x573, awwwww.jpg)

Are there any VNs that are majority male cast, but neither BL, otome or dating sim? Particularly if the characters are highly shippable with each other. Help a casual out, nonnies.

No. 373460

>>373457
but you do the same thing, is this like a confession you're projecting on me? dug up my og wig0nhead post from 6 years ago lol >>>/snow/537463 was already 18 when i made it

No. 373461

>>373454
I'm am against them even when they're good because they slow down the scanlation process and they are not drawn by the mangaka. I'm not reading yaoi to masturbate or see dick fanart. The better I know the artist the goofier the redraws look.
I don't even really like it when the sfx are redrawn. Just leave the art alone and put an asterisk there with a translation.

No. 373463

>>373459
Probably something like a joseimuke mobile game would be your best bet. Things like Twisted Wonderland come to mind

No. 373464

File: 1713964467089.jpg (812.63 KB, 1920x1080, sad.jpg)

Kobayashi is so much of a wasted character. He has a lot going for him (police officer, Orange operative, husband & father, homo in love with Shou), but he doesn't get paired with anybody. Meanwhile such a nothing character like Isshiki gets the spotlight in chapter 2. The choice of what to focus on and what to relegate to side materials is baffling.

>>373454
I read it as
>dick rewards
and got too excited for a second.(ban evading)

No. 373468

File: 1713965302204.jpg (162.73 KB, 750x458, 20240424_082018.jpg)

>>373463
>>373459
if anon does go the josei gacha route
>paralive (has a design by harada herself)
>hypmic (hifumi, doppo, ramuda, etc. gay game)
>twst (yana made, lots of covert degeneracy and shota shipbait)
are all great for fujos. if you want a better story (depending on the arc) and heavier fujopandering but 50/50 m/f split cast, try onmyoji and id:v. most of the players are women (fujos who came because of the popular ships) and the men play for the gameplay, not waifus.

No. 373470

>>373460
The truth is since I was looking for the lc screenshot in the tif's tumblr blog I saw a lot of slow damage posts and was thinking of either accusing you or the sdfag of being a tif for absolutely no reason.

No. 373472

File: 1713966601273.jpg (80.05 KB, 1120x1407, 412100402.jpg)

>>373470
then call sdfag one too to make it up to me

No. 373473

File: 1713966897986.jpg (300.77 KB, 1200x668, 211112.jpg)

>>373464
Nonna, I like you but you're gonna get a permaban at this point.

Anyway, CAGE is a kino game and I hope they finish with the remake soon so I can replay it.

No. 373475

>>373473
I'll miss the old art style tbh, always reminded me of a weird mix of Lauren Child and Jhonen Vasquez's artstyles. But Teppei's sprite looks uggo in close so I welcome a change there, and I'm hyped to hear Teppei, Gen, and the bear's voices plus that sick ost again.

No. 373477

File: 1713968118312.jpg (Spoiler Image,143.39 KB, 921x814, Screenshot 2024-04-24 161135.j…)

>>373472
Ok. But sdfag is not just any tif, she is the tumblr tif in question. This is true because they both like taku from slow damage and hashihime. Picrel shows her pathetic internalized misogyny that is so common among n+cslop fans. I love your art btw I'm sorry for letting my retarded baiting tendency get the best of me

No. 373478

File: 1713968135277.jpg (282.02 KB, 1200x668, 211118_.jpg)

>>373475
The OST was literally peak, I'm impressed it's all freeware and still listen to it regularly. The doujin crustiness of the art was gr8 but half of the time they all looked so fugly it does take some time getting used to, kek. I also like the art in open more than in close. I'm excited for the seiyuu, I hope they can find a guy who speaks Kansai-ben. Who was your best boy? I love a stupid yankee so Gen was my favourite. It's been a decade since I've played the game though, not sure how it's aged.

No. 373479

File: 1713968296115.jpg (335.04 KB, 1000x989, 20220109_181504.jpg)

>>373450
NTA but I'm fucking losing it at your picrel and I forgive you for being a Ryufag. Are you the one who posts in the rate your art thread? Your nty boys are cute and you are funny as fuck. of course Haru would be a terrorist kek

No. 373498

>>373464
As another uruuuC fag I beg you nonna to take a chill pill and wait out your ban without ban evading so we can sperg about the game later once you're free of the cage

No. 373508

File: 1713975922837.png (490.33 KB, 913x746, no politics only edge i swear.…)

>>373479
yes thats me and thank you. also i'm a harufag and makifag mainly but i like them all, everyone has been my favorite at some point.

>>373477
kek thank you too nona. i'll try to hide my posting style from now on.

No. 373511

File: 1713976804864.png (300.65 KB, 1280x960, 22759893_p0.png)

>>373478
I know right? One time I submitted gen's theme as a town tune to a random literal who animal crossing wild world lets player KEK he wondered what it was from in one video and said it sounded familiar, felt a little guilty but was laughing my ass off. I know it's uggo but I admittedly adore that precise mix of intentionally weird and edgy and how to draw manga gakuen handsome proportions. Gen was my fav too, but I also love Kujo and Nitta. In close, Ishimatsu but I'm pretty sure I never finished it.

No. 373513

File: 1713976946083.webm (8.35 MB, HumanLube.webm)

nona from another thread was commenting on Azuma moans so here is a recording I made a while ago, I love Netoru and his 5 minute long moaning so much

No. 373514

File: 1713977511962.jpg (13.18 KB, 258x225, 1522436152580.jpg)

>>373513
…i need to cool off

No. 373515

File: 1713977517641.jpg (Spoiler Image,77.34 KB, 896x866, 20221126_185821.jpg)

>>373513
That was me and I kiss you, nonna. Can't wait to play this on Friday even if it's through JASTslop lenses.

No. 373516

>>373515
QuinEi liker, based taste nona

No. 373519

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>what did they mean by this
Slightly off putted by this official translation, but I know this was very much a ship back in the day

No. 373523

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>>373518
Paradise!
>>373420
Yeah it's my collection, thanks nona!

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>>373523
That's a beautiful collection and I have mad respect for a fellow BLVN merch hunter. One time while travelling in Japan I took the train 2 hours out of Tokyo to go pick up a BLVN tapestry at the most lost random madarake for an insane price, kek

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>>371545
I wanna play these but haven't gotten around to it yet. Here's my first impression based solely on looks.

No. 373541

>>373421
He IS talking to the violin

No. 373542

>>373477
If you’re referring to the Takufag (me) that’s not me, I don’t have a tumblr.

No. 373548

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>>373459
The other anons are right about the gachas being your best bet, but if you want traditional VNs, I have some recommendations. Ace Attorney is probably the closest to what you want. There's a massive fujo fanbase, and the artist even drew yaoi doujins in the past. There's also ENIGMA, which is a visual novel in which all of the routes are platonic (so it's not a dating sim), and most of the routes focus on the close friendship between two men. I've seen a lot of people complain that it's basically a BL game with the romance taken out. I will warn you that the MC does sleep with a female character in one of the routes, but it's not shown, their relationship goes nowhere, and it feels like the writers went, "we swear he's straight!" Mamiya: A Shared Illusion of the World's End is almost exactly what you describe, and its sequel is probably similar, but I haven't tried it. I didn't like it, so I didn't bother with the sequel, but there's nothing wrong with it on an objective level, and you'd probably like it. Finally, I've seen anons on here recommend Aya Akashiya Ayakashino. I haven't played it and cannot comment, but from my understanding, there's no explicit romance. I'm not 100% on this, though. I could list some galge and otome games where I personally ship two of the male characters, but that's neither helpful nor what you're asking for kek.

No. 373555

>>373523
>gross hate them both

No. 373556

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Playing Omerta rn, JJ blushing face so cute I want to nom

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>>373508
>i'm a harufag and makifag mainly but i like them all, everyone has been my favorite at some point
Real, the whole cast is so good I can't help but loving them all too. Hiroshi's route made actually sob, Maki's route also made me bawl and I still consider harumaki the endgame because they're the most compatible couple ossan's route did things to me I cannot mention to anyone except my therapist. Ryu, well >TKD. But Haru was my favourite of them all and he's still my number 1 favourite character out of any BL.

I tend to like main characters more than the LIs and Haru is probably the most developed mc out there. Not even parade could top themselves with Daichi and Tasuku, one was more boring than the next sorry even though they did interesting shit with them in the story. MAGA!Maki makes me kek because he's basically an honorary mexican

No. 373566

>>373548
>Mamiya: A Shared Illusion of the World's End is almost exactly what you describe
Most of the homo bait stuff is in the sequel actually, can votch for it being a great VN too I really enjoyed it. The original I rated like a 7.5 but the sequel I rated a 9 for example. though playing subahibi pretty close to it though was funny since they're fairly similar in themes (1999 and 2012 apocalypse), both having the antagonist be named Mamiya, themes of human delusion etc etc

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>>373565
Samefag my favourite BLVN mcs are, in order

>Haru nty

>Kyou mebiusline
>Gian lucky dog 1
>Tamamori hashihime

Haven't played Azuma's game yet so looking forward to it.

What's your favorite BLVN mcs, nonas?

No. 373575

>>373566
AYRT and I'm actually a massive fan of Subahibi (understatement), which is why I played it kek. It sounded so similar, and before release, it was tagged as denpa. Can I ask why you liked the sequel so much? I was so, so hyped for the first one since the announcement, and I found the it very disappointing. I liked the part with the four new characters in the house, but I couldn't care less about the main guys. I wasn't going to waste my time with the sequel, but your Subahibi comparison has baited me into giving it a try despite my better judgment.

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>>373575
>Can I ask why you liked the sequel so much?
The vast majority of the plot is in the sequel, even calling it a sequel though feels kind of like a cheat since it's more just where the story actually explores it's characters and themes that were set up in downfall. Doomsday dreams is referred to as a chapter in it after all, rather than a sequel, VNDB just lists it differently because they're sold separately and there was a huge gap inbetween releases (but I got the VN for free from my friend so nicely gifting it to me so it doesn't matter lol).
One of the big reasons that doomsday dreams is where the VN truly shines is because it mainly focuses on the people in the house rather than Natsume's friends (though they're obviously all important characters) a lot of the bad ends with them are incredibly interesting and the way they play off of Natsume's friends is really well done. The true end broke my heart into a million pieces too (in a good way).

Main criticism I have to give IS that downfall is majority set up for the themes and plot of the VN while the majority of the meat is in doomsday dreams. Also Minato is just a fucking terrible character with the worst routes by far, he's not even an important character to the overall plot particularly outside of some body shit and Natsume wanting to fuck him when he's crossdressing.

Overall I think it has an overall stronger ending than Subahibi, but Subahibi's first half (especially IMOI) is some of the best stuff in denpa VNs so I don't think it gets to that level per se? I'd still continue reading it though, it has a lot of really fun twists and anytime Samejima and Arisugawa are on screen it's great.

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>>373569
>What's your favorite BLVN mcs, nonas?
In Order:
4. Rei from Tokyo Onmyoji
3. Shirou from Uuultra C
2. Haru from No Thank You
1. Tamamori from Hashihime

No. 373588

>>373569
Azuma from paradise
Kyo from taisho mebiusline
Michael from shingakkou
Gian from luckydog
Keichi from omega vampire
Tama from hashihime
Juro from ultra c
Tomoaki from hadaka

No. 373589

>>373556
I remembered playing both omerta games and I liked code tycoon more but the original still holds ups fairly well. Whose route are you on right now? I personally enjoyed ugajin and tachibana’s.

No. 373593

>>373565
you'd be surprised by how many protrump latinos there are as ironic as it sounds kekk plus he's a gun autist so it just makes sense
>one was more boring than the next sorry
cry tasuku was so moe and it makes sense why he was written the way he was due to his biological programming to be a kamikaze drone but he really is their konoe. daichi is like hiroshi but evil and a hoe. we'll see if they can top haru, but he ticks so many boxes for me I don't even know if he can be topped for my personal tastes anymore. I'd be happy to be proven wrong though.

and I consider ryu endgame mostly because I want him, the brothers, and the little girl to be happy. it would also just be nice for haru to have something to come back to besides piyoshi's greedy hole </3 but maki is the soulmate and they'd lead a more interesting life together so tl;dr which I prefer depends on if I'm in the mood for boring domestic or nostalgia bumping to born to die and ultraviolence kek

>>373569
>haru-kun
>inga dystopia no ou
>rei tokyo onmyoji
>obligatory kyou and gian
honorable mention to cage konno, loved his personality (in most routes at least) stupid, cute, and funny

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>>373593
samefag, one thing I do really like about hiroshi's end is the idea that haru turned him gay forever and he ends up saving his virginity for him after all like a good boy kek

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>>373529
>>373420
That's haiiros artist right? Glad that she can finally do art for a blvn. She seems to really like blvns especially paradise and occasionally draws fanarts of her favorite ships.

No. 373624

does anyone have a torrent for MAMIYA? it looks pretty cool

No. 373626

>>373624
nevermind i just bought it. i forget i have money now kek

No. 373634

Is laughter land any good? Vndb rating is pretty high.

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>>373402
That's part of it, but I also liked watching his innocence get destroyed by the narrative, especially near the ending when he has the gun in his face. Absolutely kino CG. I also really enjoyed how he served as a foil to Haru especially after Haru's true nature is revealed near the end; Hiroshi was the only one of the main cast who truly didn't suspect anything, so I love the aspect of how badly it must've hurt, as well as the contrast of their respective worldviews. They're basically polar opposites, and their relationship truly could only work for that brief moment they spent together, which I think is fitting. In my opinion, he kind of represents something Haru could never have or has never had. I felt like Hiroyuki had much more space to be emotionally broken through the story's events, being relatively naive, whereas the other characters already had their respective issues and had some idea of what was really happening before shit hit the fan. I enjoy watching cute little guys have their world shattered in real time kek.
>>373407
It's actually impressive how good the cast is; I could see an argument for any of the 4 being someone's favorite, and I'd completely understand.
>>373403
Pops was a very close second favorite, so extremely based taste. He also kind of fits the 'having his spirit broken' aspect I enjoy. Strongly agree about the VA. I actually looked him up after finishing the VN, and was very disappointed to see he's mostly done minor roles.
>Paradise
I kept telling myself I had no intention of buying Paradise, but I wound up pre-ordering it anyways kek. I don't know much about the guys' personalities, but I'm hoping it's good despite the mixed reviews.

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>>373450
(redrew my cosplay with added head lump, didn't want to bump art thread for this sorry. now I will leave.)

No. 373656

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>>373578
Wow, thank you for being so thorough! This was incredibly helpful. So, I actually played the first part way back in the year it initially released in English (It was an instant buy and I played it a couple of months later). I remember the first chapter ended with a 'to be continued' or something after the blue-haired one turned out to be dead?? Sorry, it's been almost three years. In other words, I get what you're saying about it being more of a Part 1 and Part 2 type situation. It's very difficult for me to think of it that way because of the massive gap, but I'll try to go in with that expectation.
>downfall is majority set up for the themes and plot of the VN while the majority of the meat is in doomsday dreams
I remember the greater aspects of the plot (the four boys' main struggles and the events inside the house), but not specifics. Do you think I need to replay the first part to enjoy the second? I really hope not because this is the only VN I've fallen asleep while playing kek.
>Minato is just a fucking terrible character
Strong agree. I couldn't stand him. I felt annoyed by Natsume, as well, but he wasn't as bad.
>Overall I think it has an overall stronger ending than Subahibi, but Subahibi's first half (especially IMOI) is some of the best stuff in denpa VNs
Completely understandable, and this gives me a realistic expectation for the story. The mere comparison to Subahibi is the easiest way to convince me to read or watch anything, so I probably will buy Doomsday Dreams. I know I won't love it as much as Subahibi, but anything with a similar experience is totally worth a try.

No. 373659

>>373645
This is very cute nonna did you draw it?

No. 373668

>>373454
I always think about that time Rainbow Dick scanlations or whatever their group name is (you know the one) was all "our artist did SUCH a good job redrawing these dicks that we just had to leave them unrainbowed!!" And the dicks were some of the worst redraws I'd ever seen. The entire comment section was begging them to put the rainbows back for once kek either a gigabrained move from a team tired of the usual complaints or really embarrassing for that redrawer
If you can't match the line quality and shading texture of the rest of the art work, don't even try IMO.

No. 373677

>>373634
The mc kind of sucks, there's no romance in the true route and you can tell where Yura got involved but otherwise it's really good.

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>>373593
>which I prefer depends on if I'm in the mood for boring domestic or nostalgia bumping to born to die and ultraviolence kek
Kek nonna, absolutely real.

I liked Tasuku less than Haru and Daichi but he's basically a shounen fight autist so there's not so much inner life going on in there except being a stupid loyal horndog. Lkyt was good for male ryona I liked the roidpig's route NGL but nty still manages to make all the boys suffer so much more in depth, truly kino.

>>373641
Agree with everything you said about Hiroshi. The end of his route with the gun CG is so extremely fucking sad any way you cut it, it made me cry so hard I had to take a break, kek. It really did feel like Haru was being confronted with something that he thinks he could never have, the capacity for love. But despite what Haru believes about himself from the rest of the game it's clear that it's not true. Haru is indeed capable of love even if it's in his own way in the confines of his upbringing.

>Strongly agree about the VA. I actually looked him up after finishing the VN, and was very disappointed to see he's mostly done minor roles.

Same nonna, what a squandered talent smh. It's actually ironic that the real breakout star from parade games was Netoru when by all intents and purposes, it should have been Hiroshi's VA first.

>>373645
This is the only good palestine conflict fanart, twittertards learn

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>>373613
Did you play haiiro, nonna? I kept an eye on it but school settings don't interest me at all. I haven't heard anything about it on whether it's decent and/or interesting. Art looks good at least so props to her.

No. 373686

>>373685
>Tower of the sun
Context?

No. 373687

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>>373656
>Do you think I need to replay the first part to enjoy the second?
If you look up a recap you'll probably be fine, Ryou and Keito are pretty important but the other two (who have the shittier routes) aren't as important.
>I felt annoyed by Natsume, as well, but he wasn't as bad.
He's not a protagonist for everyone but I like him since he's cute.
>but anything with a similar experience is totally worth a try.
I think it'll fill a similar hole if you're absolutely craving something like subahibi! I'd love to hear your thoughts on doomsday dreams if you decide to read and finish it as well!

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>>373686
Shows up in UuuC. It's also the dog's face

No. 373700

This thread made me play NTY and I’ll romance the fuck out of Ryu
love me qt boys in glasses

No. 373725

>>373659
yes nona thank you! its a crossover with the edgy hetaliafied israel and palestine boy couple from one of our old ai threads kek

No. 373737

>>373684
>I liked the roidpig's route NGL
Same, I've never been big on roidpigs but I liked him, he looked pretty with his hair down. They both looked like young Danzig if he was a anime boy in their last cg kek Ango the ideal and Tasuku the realistic version. The suffering was concentrated in his route, that last scene in particular was BRUTAL.

No. 373743

>>373468
Nta but is your picrel Onmyoji? The men look so beautiful

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>>373743
Yep, that's from a recent merch collab https://twitter.com/fallengodorochi/status/1778937760231104838 Whole dev team is full of fujocoomers and they've had internal drama explicitly over shipwars like 30 times. Have some more official art kek.

No. 373775

>>373589
Tachibana! He hasn't given me a good impression so far tbh. I liked him in the prologue but throughout the route he has been fucking stuff up for JJ so much that I'm mad rn XD So far I have only finished Kiryu (who was cute but I couldn't deal with how he pulled an 180 and went from DIE ASSASSIN TRASH to dokidoki in a very short span)

No. 373789

>>373685
It's coming out in a month about! I don't like school settings too but I enjoyed shingakkou and sweet pool. Haiiro looks interesting too. Also cute photo nonny!

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>>373789
Kek, of course I haven't heard anything about it then. Are you gonna play it nona? I'm debating ordering it on physical cause I like having physical VNs tomorrow the new holicoworks game also comes out and I'm already reserving my next 2 months to get completely absorbed. I got my eyes on ginger guy with braid, he looks like a misaki type kek

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>>373700
Have fun meganestacy best order to do the routes in for the story is Hiroshi>Maki>Koichi>Ryu

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>>373459
library of neversista, but there's no tl that i know of

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>>373825
Did you wait out your ban nonna?

No. 373829

>>373825
Lemme know if you're still banned so I can keep reporting you.

No. 373837

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all this blvn talk makes a bit curious since ive been only a manga and novelfag, how should i navigate bl vns? ive tried the "classics"(mostly nc+ stuff and a bit of cage) and would love to read more

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>>373837
I am mostly into VNs and novels (some manga, but I'm not as into it), so hopefully, my advice will be useful. In terms of VN publishers/companies, you have some decent choices, even assuming you want English only. As a lot of nonas (including me) in this thread have discussed, Parade makes really good VNs. Right now, they have Room No. 9, Lkyt, and No, Thank You. In my personal opinion, their works usually have a strong focus on horror and drama. Most of them are kind of psychological, and NTY is my personal favorite of their games. NTY is great if you like drama with a bit of mystery thrown in, and it has the strongest cast of Parade's VNs. Lkyt is great if you want fantasy (love the atmosphere and setting), but the character writing isn't as strong. RN9 is really good, but it doesn't have as much focus on plot, so I'd save that one for later because it's a harder sell. Minor thematic spoilers, but a lot of the time, Parade's games don't have happy endings or will have a strong element of tragedy, so I'd approach with caution if that's something you dislike. ADELTA makes excellent VNs. Right now, only Hashihime of the Old Book Town and UUUltraC are available in English, but there are a few more in JP that you might enjoy. I recommend both, but I especially recommend Hashihime because it's my personal favorite BL game. It focuses more on mystery and is a bit easier to approach than Parade's games because it has a broader appeal. I love the protagonist, and if you're into literary references, you'll probably have a great time. Be warned that subsequent routes are generally regarded as much worse than the first, but I personally had fun with them (the first route is significantly longer than the others; I'm bad at estimating, but it probably at least 1/3 of the game). I'd advise going in with the expectation that the later routes might not be to your taste. UUUltraC is a little less approachable because it's more… abstract, for lack of a better term. I enjoyed it, but I can see why some nonas were bothered by it. It has a bit of an unusual structure because it focuses on three different couples rather than individual routes. It's sort of an action/sci-fi story, but I'd recommend reading it after Hashihime because I think it's a little less approachable. I'll also shill Tokyo Onmyoji because it's genuinely fantastic. It's an urban fantasy VN, and I really like that all of the characters were proper adults in their late 20s/early 30s rather than college students or in their early 20s. It feels a bit unusual, and I can't emphasize enough how great the protagonist is. The art is a little goofy, but if you can look past it, it's an extremely solid VN with great character writing and unique routes. I'm mostly recommending popular VNs, but I think most of these are great place to start if you haven't experienced much of the medium. I'm really sorry if this didn't answer your question!

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>>373837
I second everything nona above said, and I also think parade games are a great starting point. They're the best studio out there right along with n+C because they're also a sister branch of a big eroge studio, CLOCKUP. The director for parade, Amemiya, was the same guy who made euphoria and fraternite. You can definitely see their influence in their BLVNs. As a result they can pull from a range of talent and resources like Haru's seiyuu who's pretty active in eroge. If you're familiar with Netoru he started doing BL roles with Room no. 9. The artists for parade are also the lead artists for CLOCKUP games.

If you can venture in the untranslated genre, Shingakkou and Taisho Mebiusline are kamige tier. Probably the best games I've ever played and both rank in my top 5. They're both from 2011 so they're showing their age a bit but it doesn't even matter, Shingakkou is drawn in the typical 80s BL manga style which makes it really unique. Mebiusline is similar to Hashihime as it's set in the Taisho period and has heavy literary and historical references to the era, so if you like Hashihime you'll love Mebius.

Then there's more recent doujin fun stuff like Nie no Machi, which is basically what if we took the typical otome trope of the heroine having something super special that makes all the guys wanna fuck her but turned the mc into a guy, kek. It's pretty funny and also has a historical theme around the Showa era. Not mindblowing but the characters are extremely memorable and fun.

No. 373859

>>373796
I'm getting both kek. I hope ooe delays though because I'll be broke for a month. Physical versions are always better but the shipping fees and customs prevent me from doing so I hate my shithole.
I'll do haiiro first probably because I know I'm going to suffer with nakajos writing. Writing is based regardless. They should translate the holikworks games.

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>>373859
kek nonna, same. It kinda hurts seeing Jast sell paradise for like 18 dollars when the original price for most VNs is like 90k yen nowadays or 120k if you get special editions. Back in 2017 that was a pretty penny in yen.

When you get around to playing haiiro do post your thoughts in here nona. I'm curious if it's decent and/or good. Also Ooe is definitely getting delayed there's no way kurosawa can finish it in time kek an autmun release also suits it better tbh

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>>373862
I mean if it's for a coomzoomie translation this price makes sense kek. I still want it to sell well even though i hate jast with passion, because pilslash is my favorite bl company and they're a little broke atm.
Yen is pretty shit atm? I remember when 9k yen were around 80 bucks but now it's around 65. Still blvns are expensive but it's been so long since we got one, so i'm gonna stfu and give them my money. After ooe we"ll probably get the next one in a year or so. Tokyo gentou might take more time and cage remake…idk nonna I hope it's not dead really looking forward to it.
For sure! I got a feeling that it's going to be good and wishing it's psychological enough.

Also looking very forward to freeware doujinge blvn releases,kikai densen and necromanticism.

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>>373871
>they're a little broke atm
NTA but do you have any more information about this? Are they in serious danger of going out of business?
>>373449
Late but this was a good post, and you worded it better than I could have. Just remember, no matter how pissed you felt, at least you don't feel the need to lie to your literally-who followers to justify browsing /fujo/. Incredibly pathetic behavior to be so ashamed of a harmless activity you enjoy that you feel the need to portray yourself as superior to people with the exact same interests as you. It's okay to say you just enjoy something and find it fun to see other anons' opinions on BL media instead of trying to make up such a weird excuse.

No. 373902

>>373901
Their latest game, dystopia no ou was crowdfunded IIRC. And no news about the dramacd series that they promised to release. Yet they are still active and release Paradise related stuff. Definitely need support!

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>>373871
>I still want it to sell well even though i hate jast with passion, because pilslash is my favorite bl company and they're a little broke atm.
Mood. Hobby is already niche and dead as it is, cool-B almost went under recently. I hate giving jast my cuckbucks but I'll do it to support pil/slash with their royalties.

It's a bit of an exceptional year with like 3 BLVNs coming out at the same time, I also hope cage remake doesn't go under love&des have been pretty quiet lately.

>kikai densen

Supreme taste nonna. I've also got my eye on it. The other one I haven't heard of but from the vndb description mc sounds like a necro so I'm definitely adding it to the list, kek. I miss you Giulio…

If haiiro is psychological I'm definitely buying it, so I'm curious what you're gonna say. Despite being happy at new bobge everything about it looks so boring and cookie-cutter my best hope is that it's a massive psyop like Shingakkou

No. 373925

Vns are a dying genre overall, and there were never that many BL vns in the first place. Most galge vns are cheap porn that fly under the radar, when in the past there were a lot of famous titles who were getting anime adaptations. Otome vns seem to be the only market that is relatively thriving, and my guess is cause they're hardcarried by western fans.
Isekai garbage and gacha is dominating the weeb market nowadays unfortunately….

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>>373925
Gacha were the death knoll of VNs and actual games in general. Even actual console games were absolutely colonized by gachaslop mechanics what with microtransactions, lootboxes, "forever" support and the release of unfinished games. VNs which are basically a book with audio are slow games and have no monetization aspect at all besides the first purchase and occasional merch. Even quality galge can't compete against shit like genshin and manage to gain notoriety. It's a shame because it's my favourite medium, it's why I make a point to support as many blvn creators as possible, doujin or otherwise.

On the bright side, for a long time it seemed as if gacha were going to be eternal but even nowadays gacha games are getting the plug pulled on them after 2 or 3 years in operation, which is starting to make people unhappy. I'll be glad when the gachaslop model finally dies but I don't think that will happen without legal intervention (which is a bad thing). The gaming space is already super concentrated and starting to look like Disney, western or otherwise.

No. 373932

>>373927
Not just gacha but gambling in general is starting to become a major problem in my home country. Gacha works solely because it's addictive, there's not much gameplay just like gambling. Whenever I hear people wanting to legalize drugs all I can think about is gambling, this shit is legal and managed to dominate a lot of spaces here to the point you can't escape their ads. They're like porn bots. The best course of action would be obviously to make any form of gambling including gacha illegal…

No. 373935

>>373932
Gambling is already illegal in Japan but you wouldn't know it from the hordes of pachinko parlors. That's the thing, pachinko is not legally classified as gambling. Laws banning gambling or forms of gambling in gacha games have a really poor track record of being effective first because all laws are local, so without global political will to implement the same rules in a majority of countries they have little effect on cross-barrier shit like internet games. Germany tries, and as a result a bunch of games aren't available in Germany which just makes Germans pissed and drives up VPN use. Second, people will just find ways around the law's loopholes. Prohibition in the US also didn't stop anything and led to the development of organized crime which became an even worse problem than the one prohibition tried to cure. It's similar when it comes to gacha games and broad-scope gacha bans. And if they're not broad-scope, the aforementioned loopholes come into play again.

The best course of action would be for gacha models to become so unprofitable the entire industry collapses and the industry starts rebuilding itself. We're already seeing this collapse in the western gaming sphere and sadly, a bit in the VN sphere. Thankfully VNs don't cost millions of dollars to make so even small studios which get maybe a thousand sales per title have managed to stay afloat sofar, though I doubt they will last much in this coming economy.

No. 373957

>>373810
What if I don't follow that order? Will I fuck up the story or?

No. 373959

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>>373957
NTA but due to the way information is revealed, the order that anon listed is the best for experiencing the plot. In my opinion (I am not one of the NTY experts, but I did read the whole VN), Koichi and Maki's order could be flipped if you really have a preference between them (I'd still advise against it, though). Ryu should be done last because he feels like the true route, and it puts a nice cap on the whole story. He really feels the most conclusive, and there's a lot of information that comes out in the routes preceding it to set it up. Hiroyuki should absolutely be done first for tonal/introductory reasons. His is the best for a first playthrough for reasons I can't explain due to spoilers. I really can't imagine playing in a different order, as the routes build on each other, and you slowly uncover information piece-by-piece. Some other anon might have a different perspective, though.

No. 373962

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>>373959
I concur with this anon except that I don't suggest inversing Maki and Kouichi's route, playing Maki before Kouichi is essential for the proper buildup of the story. Kouichi's route is the "meatier" route and a bit of a climax to the story, while Ryu is the comedownone might say the aftercare kek. Also you'll enjoy Hiroshi a lot if you've got your eyes set on Ryu.

No. 373964

>>373935
So what are you saying is that basically there is nothing to do other than people not playing anymore…? Are we gonna be stuck with this gambling phenomen forever?

No. 373977

>>373959
>>373962
Thank you nonnas! I'll do Hiroshi first then

No. 373978

>>373964
As long as it makes money.

On the bright side, gachaslop seems to be competing with each other out of business, there's only a limited amount of cash even the whaliest of whales has to spend on mobage rolls or live service battle pass or whatever. Eventually those studios will go under or be forced to make other types of games.

No. 373991

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>>373957
I'm late, but I second everything the other nonas said

No. 374082

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It's probably a very short book, but I'm happy that this exists.

No. 374084

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>>374082
Literally the display that came out for the release of the book has the majority of them kek.

No. 374085

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If there is one thing I'm deeply unsatisfied with in UUUltraC it's the ending. Freaking pedestrian 'and then their powers were gone forever, two timelines merged and the world was back to normal". Such an easy, unimaginative cop-out and destroys chances for a sequel. So much cool shit could have been done with the setting in side materials, yet you throw it all out of the window, because…the prospect of eternal conflict and life not being an easy ride for your characters makes you feel uncomfortable? If you write crazy shit in your story, commit till the end and avoid cliche endinqs especially. And in this particular case people will accuse you of plaqiarisinq Concrete Revolutio too. Fuck 'normal' life and fuck your normal life SoL 'they lived happily ever after'.(still ban evading, still avatarfagging)

No. 374086

>>374085
>Concrete Revolutio
What is that?

No. 374087

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>>373927
It's depressing but I feel like gacha has taken over most fandoms spaces as a whole, we probably have a while before it has less of a huge grip on everything.

No. 374088

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>>374084
>tfw everyone is broke besides nitro+chiral

No. 374089

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>>374088
What character would you want to see have a figure made of them? Series be damned and type of figure be damned, anything goes.
I think something like this Mononoke figure with Tamamori would be sick as fuck.

No. 374090

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>>373837
>>373844
>https://vndb.org/g2002
is very helpful.

>>374086
The greatest /m/eta anime ever made.

>>373927
People will start appreciating offline games more I hope.

No. 374099

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>>374087
The thing I hate about gacha is that, no matter how good the story is, it won't last forever. Yeah, you can document it on YouTube or something, but it's not the same as having a complete visual novel that you can go back to and experience again. I have a feeling it'll eventually kill the industry, and even the extremely successful studios will move on to gacha. I think there will still be some indie VNs, but it'll never go back to the way it was.
>>373927
Agree with everything you wrote except for
>for a long time it seemed as if gacha were going to be eternal but even nowadays gacha games are getting the plug pulled on them after 2 or 3 years in operation, which is starting to make people unhappy
The problem is that those unhappy people just move on to the next thing and forget all about their dissatisfaction. I want to be optimistic, but so many big-name VN companies (not even BLVNs, but more generally) are moving toward gacha.

No. 374103

>>374099
>I think there will still be some indie VNs, but it'll never go back to the way it was
To be fair BLVNs outside of nitro chiral stuff (and gakuen heaven) were never getting lots of media presence to begin with, but they've always been pretty much the main option for fujoshi for games since at least to my knowledge there's no BL specific game in any other genre. It would be cool though, chiral should pick up that fighting game idea that they made an april fools prank about and make it into an actual game, they've done it with the main branch so they're clearly capable of it.

No. 374106

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>>374103
after seeing them mess around with microtransaction heavy mobage with clean dishes and that other game + the success of nucani I wouldn't be surprised if they ever tried making a real gacha with the chiral mori style chibis battling or something. tennenouji just did it with friendly lab too.

>>374089
anyone, anything, I'm just sick of acrylics. towa figure with removable veil would be neat though.

No. 374107

>>374106
>ever tried making a real gacha with the chiral mori style chibis battling or something
Would become gachaslut for it.

No. 374111

>>374106
>I wouldn't be surprised if they ever tried making a real gacha with the chiral mori style chibis
Add to that the fact that their parent company has already experimented with gacha through Smile of the Arsnotoria, and were experimenting with that 3D action RPG (Dolls Nest).

No. 374112

>>374111
they also own touken ranbu

No. 374114

Do you consider homo manga written by men to by men to be BL or not? (excluding bara obviously, since that's it's own demographic)

No. 374116

>>374114
as long as it's bl i don't think it matters if it was written by a guy or woman?

No. 374118

>>374114
it can be. to me it depends on things like style, target audience, tropes, what the author himself likes. there's no reason men can't write bl as a rule

No. 374119

>>374114
Manga drawn by fags is most of the time bdsm bear porn with no substance so no,i don't consider their manga yaoi. Yaoi and bl is primarily women only

No. 374120

>>374114
Reading bl written by a man has to be one of the most disgusting things ever. I could never do it today. I can't even browse /y/ or /cm/ because the thought of discussing bl with a moid makes me so disgusted.

No. 374121

>>374114
No reason not to? I've already had otps from series made by men, I don't pick what I read purely based on the sex of the author.
Top 4 male bl writers:
>Himaruya
>Noda
>Amemiya
>Araki

Top 2 bl writers with schizophrenia
>Furuya Usamaru
>Hadaka Shitsuji man

No. 374122

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Fujos win yet again

No. 374123

>>374121
Litchi isn't really BL though…it just has homos in it.

No. 374124

>>374114
no. and i don't know what's with the no thank you shills lately. bl has always been written by women only and it will stay that way.

No. 374125

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>>374085
I wasn't wild about the ending, either, but I really didn't want a sequel (I liked the game; I just have a strong opposition to sequels). I liked what was done thematically with Juurou's ending, but I do agree it was way too happy overall. I think it should've ended more ambiguously.
>>374114
Giving an example could have helped. I guess I would; there were men on the staff of games like Lamento, after all, so I don't see why manga would be any different. I also think it's just one of those, "if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and swims like a duck, it's a duck," type situations.
>>374122
Fujos are so powerful for consistently keeping at least two yaoi games at the top of JAST's list year-round. I don't know why localization companies aren't fighting each other for licenses to more yaoi games, considering how well they sell.

No. 374126

>>374122
funny to see that dramatical murder is still so popular despite being more than 10 years old.

No. 374127

>>374125
>I don't know why localization companies aren't fighting each other for licenses to more yaoi games, considering how well they sell.
No company wants to be branded as the one pandering to fujos so even if the money is tempting, the hatred of women takes priority. However that's why companies make all those small subsidiary studios to contain all the fujo stuff into so they can reap the benefits but not be tainted with it.

No. 374128

>>374127
i wonder if thats also the reason why atlus doesnt let us date boys in persona.

No. 374129

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>>374126
Yaoi Jesus is powerful

No. 374130

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>>374123
>implying I don't have homo tunnel vision

No. 374131

>>374127
damn this is basically the plot of the scarlet letter but with companies and fujoshi instead of puritans and an adulterer

No. 374135

>>374120
Is shipping characters in stuff written by men a problem?

No. 374136

>>374124
fuchii kabura shills it so why cant we? it had some female writers too

No. 374137

>>374114
If it follows the conventions of the genre, it's BL. Doesn't matter who the author is. That being said I don't know any manga that I would consider BL that's written by men.

No. 374139

>>374136
NTA but source?

No. 374143

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>>374139
immitation is the highest form of shillery. if it makes it to cool-b, its BL.

No. 374144

>>374143
They really don't have that much in common, also that's not a source that's just you schizo posting.

No. 374145

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>>374144
stubborn as ever, sdchan.

No. 374146

The VNspergs should make out already.

No. 374147

>>374145
I just think it's a huuuuge stretch, like for one we don't even know if Fuchii Kabura has played NTY (which is why I got curious for the source in the first place) and for two the games are barely even in the same demographic with SD being way more traditional while NTY was specifically going for a VN written in the style of an eroge for men.
Like Ryuu and Fujieda both have sex slave sisters, so I guess if we're saying that sex slave imoutos are a copyrighted idea then both games are shilling every rape eroge ever.

No. 374152

>>374147
i just think you're coping. it's a top 20 best selling bl game and there are a billion similarities on top of that one. it was never made for men, it's a bl game made for fujos that incorporates some eroge trends. wait til you hear about what erolab did to their bl games.

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>>374146
This is my favorite genre of post on here.

No. 374157

>>374156
I don't hop on here too often, but they're why I started reliably reading threads.

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>>374152
>it's a top 20 best selling bl game
BLVNs are a niche within a niche, it's not like getting into the top 20 is terribly hard.
>it was never made for men
This I disagree with. I think the game definitely had a gay male audience in mind
>wait til you hear about what erolab did to their bl games
I don't play mobile games.
>>374156
Kek

No. 374161

both sd and nty are bad tbh. nty had ugly boys and 100% felt made for fudanshi (which isn't a bad thing overall, just a bad thing for me) and sd was boring as hell. hashihime >>>

No. 374162

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>JAST's website is so shit that my payment didn't go through due to errors and now I'm having to jump through 10,000 hoops and wait around
I just want to read about the funny abusive Matsuda…

No. 374164

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>>374160
>your picrel: excatly what I just said re: bl game that incorporates eroge trends to make the sex scenes not suck
and that's how they managed to mog every single h scene in sd combined with a single handjob

No. 374165

>>374164
If that’s your preference that’s fine, still clearly shows that they had a male audience in mind though.

No. 374167

>>374120
>>374124
I'm not trying to start an argument, but I'm genuinely curious: if something fulfilled the conventions of the genre, but was written by a man, would you still consider it 'not BL?' Also, do you consider scrote-y games written by women focusing on a male player character romancing girls to be something other than galge? For example, I consider Gore Screaming Show to be a galge even though it's written by a woman. Same thing with Nekopara, Eiyuu*Senki, and Sengoku Rance. I don't think that's a controversial opinion, but do you believe something different? Also, are otome games written by men such as Bustafellows not otome games? Similarly, at what point does it stop being BL (especially in the instance of VNs)? For example, Lamento was written by a woman, but the director was a man, as was the producer. I'm only asking because I don't understand this perspective, but I'm not trying to change your mind or anything. I agree 90% of stuff written by men does not qualify for the label, but I don't understand why it COULDN'T qualify.

No. 374172

>>374165
but it doesn't if you simply exercise your basic reading comprehension muscle. wanting the sex scenes to have a feel more similar to what's in male-targeted eroge =/= they're targeting men with the game. it means they didn't want to go for the stiff, awkward style of h scene common in bl vns in favor of the more realistic, unconventional, and erotic style common in eroge. vns may be behind the times but what they did back then is normal in bl now, sex in recent bl on average has more in common with male targeted hentai than it does with the vague, flowery old-school bl sex scenes. it's drastically toned down from your typical moidslop, but the same can be said about their vns.

No. 374198

NTY sucks. The shilling feels so manufactured

No. 374227

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>>374198
You don't have to bait so hard to get our attention, nonnie

No. 374237

>>374165
>they had a male audience in mind though.
Does this shit even matter? Half of the fujo content is made from stuff with the "male audience" in mind. I don't get this site obsession with some kind of fujopurity to the point they shit on stuff.

No. 374238

>>374135
Honestly this site has some insane takes. Feel like I'm reading some reverse 4chan incel at times. Like a huge part of fujo fandom are shippings stuff from SHOUNEN, but somehow users here can't enjoy it? I don't' understand why people even care about who made x, especially when it comes to videogames that often require hundred of people to be made.

No. 374239

>>374127
>>374128
>>374125
BL manga and novel get localized all the times. BL are dying medium and BL are a niche within a niche. They also have hard times moving past their niches, while straight VN are typically played by everyone, BL VN are typically only played by fujos.

No. 374240

>>374239
And to further add, fujos nowadays seem to be more focused on manga and novels than videogemes, and zoomers fujo barely know what a VN is over gacha.

No. 374247

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It's frustrating that many BL VNs from small developers only get a Steam release after being licensed in English. Since I'm boycotting Steam. I wanted to check out Akaya Akashiya Ayakashino as a nonna recommended, but it's no available outside of Steam, so I'll pass. What's stopping companies from putting games on GOG? There are already plenty of VNs there, including the 18+ ones, like the Rance series.

No. 374249

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>>374247
It's available on Nintendo Switch! The physical copy has an English version; it might be on the eshop, too, but I haven't checked.

No. 374250

>>374167
In my opinion a man can't write anything that fullfills the conventions the genre. If RN9 had an ending where the characters confessed their love to each other and got married it still wouldn't erase the disgusting h-scenes. If a man would manage to not insert his degeneracy into his writing it would be him holding back to try fitting into these conventions and not a genuine expression of interest for the genre as it should be. I have never played a male targeted game written by women but I'm sure they need to earn a living somehow. And whether that's their only motivation or if it's because they like it doesn't matter to me. Galge don't require a writer to like what they write. It's slop made to pander to incels. BL started as a genre where women showed their love for their ships. Something men inherently don't understand. All the men I've known who liked BL used it to self-insert. Men can't even like BL correctly, how would they write it? Similarly, otome is a consumerist genre and most of them are teaching girls to be submissive to men so I don't care if men are writing otome games. Nitrochiral VNs seem to be made with the intention of selling the best they can that's why they have men working on these games so they can sell better. Obviously all companies are trying to make money but TnC was released during a time where BL VNs were very popular and its cast tried to appeal to a wide range of fujos having an old man, shota, nonsensical rapist, yandere etc. just as other VNs but in TnC's case everything was executed in a fabricated way. While other companies kept having a shota character in their next game they stopped as the fad died. Same reason why SD has a menhera and trannies.
I don't consider everything that has gay sex in it BL. Boku no Pico isn't BL. Picrel was written by a woman but I don't think it's BL.

No. 374252

>>374249
>consoletrash
Even worse. I'd sooner buy a cutting-edge gaming PC. I'm not so rich to waste my paycheck on an overpriced device that platforms only a couple of games of my interest. I'm not Japanese.

No. 374253

>>374252
Pirate the steam release and buy the japanese game if you want to support the creator?

No. 374255

>>374250
are you a lesbian? the h scenes are the best part

No. 374257

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>>374238
Either they fell for the pinkpill memes a little too hard, their autism makes them think in extremes, they're the losers from the /ot/ thread posting like the other losers they fight with all day are reading, or all of the above. I read on /meta/ they constantly fight over the concept of lesbian fujos, and dare I say some of these posts sound like they're overcompensating to emphasize how ~gay~ fujos can be to their tradthot extremist dissenters. Lolcow is unbearable at times.

If only anons knew you can just have different taste in bl instead of taking the no true scotsman approach

No. 374259

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>>374250
dropped pic.

>>374255
No but I never had sex with a man. Everything was so explicit, the way it was drawn, described. They made me feel physically sick at times, I had to force myself to finish playing the game and tried to see them as part of the psychological horror theme. In that way the h-scenes were well made. What did you like about them?

No. 374261


No. 374263

>>374259
>What did you like about them?
that they were hot and sexy, and then the gross one added to the horror element.
>Everything was so explicit, the way it was drawn, described
how in the world is this a negative in an ERO GAME kek if you don't like sex then just say that, it's not like women don't make bl smut either and don't start with the "wahh~ it's different when we do it~~" because I know women who create, consume, and love bl porn way more intense and less emotional than rn9 on a daily basis.

No. 374265

>>374263
You're right I hate sex even so it never hindered my enjoyment of any other game before. They were very different from the ones in other BL games I played regardless of my own feelings.

No. 374268

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>>374263
(RN9 spoilers ahoy)
Even as someone who enjoyed RN9 as a psychological horror and got very emotionally attached to Daichi and Seiji, I still have to say that a big portion of the hscenes were written with an intent to make them disturbing rather than sexy (only the silly/freindly banter of our protag duos throughout those scenes gave me the strength to soldier through). The whole concept of the game lies on the people in the facility forcing our duo to suffer from either physical or mental damage, making them choose between either physically harming Daichi or sexually degrading Seiji. Several of them consisted of Seiji being subjected to one sided things like getting facefucked etc, and Seiji just grimacing and putting up with it is not sexy to readers who enjoy sex scenes with mutual attraction. Personally I didn't find these sexy but still paid attention because how the two main characters' interactions throughout this gave us important characterization info and I understood that the scenes had to be there for the narrative, sexy or not.
The two of them started out as "normal friends", so they tried their best to roll with these weird requests without letting it damage their friendship, with Daichi trying his best in the beginning to ensure Seiji doesn't feel traumatized. But despite his best efforts and depending on the options you pick, their relationship may get damaged beyond repair if they keep picking the sex options and choose to perform violent kinks like strangulation instead of crossdressing. To get a good outcome, the friends have to equally bear the burden (daichi stepping up to get maimed for a few turns so seiji's sex requests stay tame), and it was honestly quite emotionally fulfilling when you go that path.
You even unlock some actually sexy scenes where both of them enjoy it (but if they get lost in the pleasure too much they risk a fucking mindlessly forever end lmao), but that doesn't negate the fact that many of the scenes were designed to be repulsive and harmful to Seiji's psyche, and fujos who didn't enjoy that are very common. Not everyone is like me and alright with sitting through a very graphic scene of an extremely detailed scene of Seiji forcefully being given an enema and shit literally bursting out (vividly shown in CG unless you toggle it) of his ass just so we can get an emotional hurt/comfort scene later.

No. 374272

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>>374253
I will pirate it. As for supporting the creator - it's not even on DLsite or similar. The developer has a Booth account though
>https://haccaworks.booth.pm
so I might but the OST, since it's digital, just the right tunes for me and not
>out of stock

No. 374273

>>374265
so you hate sex, but you bought a game with two naked men on the cover where the premise is they get kidnapped and one is forced to repeatedly rape the other… and you're mad about how sexual it is and don't see how your fellow members of the pure, chaste sex could possibly enjoy such obscenities, do I have that right?

>>374268
I agree with you, they were intended to be uncomfortable and I understand why they don't appeal to everyone, but anon didn't just say it wasn't for her. she started her post with
>In my opinion a man can't write anything that fullfills the conventions the genre.
and then proceeded to do a wall of mental gymnastics to deny it being bl outright, instead of saying it doesn't appeal to her and leaving it at that. this is like the slasher and manhwa debates all over again, but even more nonsensical.

No. 374274

>>374247
Why boycott steam they don't care

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>>374274
Why whiteknight steam i don't care(ban evading again)

No. 374277

>>374276
Not whiteknighting, just saying thats like an american boycotting mcdonalds. I dont see the point.

No. 374279

>>374273
>so you hate sex, but you bought a game with two naked men on the cover where the premise is they get kidnapped and one is forced to repeatedly rape the other… and you're mad about how sexual it is and don't see how your fellow members of the pure, chaste sex could possibly enjoy such obscenities, do I have that right?
Yes.

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No. 374290

>>374283
Kek, amazing.

No. 374298

>>374257
Its so pathetic here how people try to incorporate a fucking romance/porn genre into their political worldview.Some anons here desperately need an Internet detox.

No. 374336

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im glad to see the bravern threads on /cm/ are still active. theyre talking about an epilog?
nonnies will we ever get a show this blatant and shameless again?

No. 374357

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>>374336
Once every 8 years. These shows always come from the most unexpected places, like YoI or Gundam (not even thinking of WfM, but IBO).

No. 374362

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>>374250
AYRT and I can see where you're coming from, even if I don't personally agree. I've never heard of the game in the picture you posted, but looking at reviews, it looks pretty terrible, regardless of what genre it is kek. I enjoyed RN9 for the psychological horror aspects, and >>374268 said it more intelligently than I could have. I also thought it had some surprisingly great character development, especially considering the expectations I had going into the game. I'm assuming you also don't think Killing Stalking is part of the genre, so I think our differing opinions mostly come down to us defining the genre in different ways.

No. 374380

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This site seems to spawn fujo-hate threads ad infinitum. Apparently, one containment thread was not enough, so the spergs started another and called it 'discussion':
>>>/ot/1978406(do not try to start fujo/anti-fujo infighting )

No. 374385

>>374380
Leave /ot/ infights on /ot/

No. 374386

>>374380
I'm Ngl, both the fujos and the antifujos participating in those threads all need to be buried in the dirt and stoned to death(alogging)

No. 374402

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>>374380
Come on nona the thread was already dying and you had to go and fucking bring attention to it.

No. 374459

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come home western woman

No. 374466

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I want to know the logic behind making a 23 year old call a 25 year old boomer, why are JAST so desperate to add memes that don't fit

No. 374481

>>374466
I always assume when people use “ok boomer” it’s like how we used to say “ok gramps” when someone our age sounded like an old person.

>>374336
I still haven’t seen it. Is it worth it? It looks super cringe and I don’t know if I’ll survive kek

No. 374483

>>374481
I haven't touched bravern because all the "queers" and troons Im forced to share a server with in groomcord are reccing it kek

No. 374491

>>374481
the plot and pacing are a bit of a mess but I thought it was funny. it doesn't take itself seriously at all kek. I wish isami cried more tho
>>374483
sorry but that logic is retarded. why do you even hang out with trannies if you're going to let them ruin stuff like that? there's nothing gendie about the show if that's what you're worried about though

No. 374492

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>>374466
He's probably calling him 'ossan'.

No. 374494

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>>374459
Is drawing Ciel with blue hair a new trend? I don't remember it from past fanart.

No. 374497

>>374481
It's fun in a retarded way. Don't think about it too hard if you watch it or you'll hurt yourself. Production value is really high and robot designs are great so if nothing you'll get eye candy. I agree with the other nonna though Isami should have cried more.

No. 374498

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>>374336
>nonnies will we ever get a show this blatant and shameless again?
King of Prism is getting a revival so soon yeah

No. 374501

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>>374336
My personal favorite, fairy ranmaru. I'd kill for a s2.

No. 374506

>>374481
Do you people enjoy anything jesus

No. 374509

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>>374483
I don't see what's so appealing to trannies in Bravern. What kind of places do you frequent? 4chan threads were full of thirstposting and robotfuckers, but no sign of trannies at all.

No. 374513

>>374491
Yeah, it having gendie stuff was what I was worried about. One of the genderspecials was interpreting some scene as transition allegory and whatnot. I may give it a try if it was just gendies transwashing as usual and the actual show is normal enough to get the approval of the lolcow crowd kek.
Also like I said, I'm not seeking trannies out, TIFs just invade every fujo space they can and I hate the idea of leaving servers I have friends at (yet unpeaked friends so I can't tell them to kick out the troons or leave with me) just because of dumbasses like that.

No. 374514

>>374492
Azuma has never called Mitsugi ossan, he did use it for Matsuda a couple times though. I don't remember this particular line, but in another line Azuma was calling Mitsugi "balding blonde" (kinpatsu hage) and localization made it "blonde boomer". So yeah the boomer is always there as a joke and not because of direct relation to the original line.

No. 374517

>>374513
None of the characters in bravern are feminine so it's very anty tif. Just watch it jesus

No. 374527

>>374506
Everything good is for tifs and moids apparently

No. 374539

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>>374494
Not a fan of the bright blue either, his hair is more of an ash navy in the new anime. He's prettier with dark hair

No. 374542

>>374539
He inspired so many fujo and otome artists. There was always at least one LI or side chara in both otome and bl that looked like him.

No. 374543

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>>374542
Est from WoF comes to my mind and from blvns definitely Shingakkous Abel. Who had similar experiences to Ciel.
I want Amemiyas blonde inspo-cuties to come back.

No. 374546

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>>374491
>>374497
>isami
>crying more
im obsessed enough, that would have pushed me over the edge sisters

No. 374561

>>374543
>Shingakkous Abel
Honestly I don't see it. It's kind of a strech to say every black-haired blue-eyed shota was inspired by Ciel.

No. 374562

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>>374513
>One of the genderspecials was interpreting some scene as transition allegory
Dying in a suicide attack is 'transition allegory' alright lol.

No. 374564

>>374459
God bless Yana and Cloverworks. Saving fujos and yumes from this dry spell.

No. 374582

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Is this game ryona?

No. 374587

>>374582
How are you just now finding out Paradise is violent and gorey

No. 374588

>>374587
is paradise a good game?

No. 374616

>>374546
Women should allow themselves to be consumed by greed. I for one think the single waterboarding session wasn't enough explicit Isami torture for the ryona enthusiasts.

No. 374617

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>>374588
If you like bl games with violence, sure. Small but decent cast of characters that have some fun interactions, mc who isn't a limp-wristed twink, alright sex with fetish shit peppered in, ryona, good enemies to lovers route, and one of the better rapeape routes out there. Romance and story are pretty weak shit ending but it's not a bad game. I know at least one anon here really liked it, it did well in Japan iirc.

No. 374623

Azuma is cute, cute!

No. 374625

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How frequent is it for male seiyuu who started out voicing niche VNs to graduate into voicing anime and making it big in the industry?

No. 374676

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>>374616
might rewatch that episode later ngl

No. 374767

Anyone playing paradise?

No. 374793

>>374767
Me nonnie. I fucking love Netoru

No. 374803

>>374793
I downloaded Nucarnival just for him. In the middle of mitsugis route. These moans are superb!

No. 374811

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I wish there was a pokedex or a wikia for all the kaijuu in UUUltra C. It's hard to keep up with who turns into what and what their abilities are.

No. 374815

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>>374793
>>374803
Ah, happy to see fellow netoru simps. Also I also downloaded nukani for netoru lol (stayed for both him and everything else though)
Mitsugi is a poopyhead in the beginning, I roasted him hard back when I first played the JP version xD. My final verdict was…well, you can guess from picrel lol.

No. 374826

>>374815
Are you the thread resident mitsugifag? I like you nonna. I'm not usually into blonde bitches but he's kinda hot ngl. Watching him bully Azuma is priceless. Azuma is so deliciously bulliable.

No. 374830

Didn't know netoru voiced seiji in r09 too. He sounds nothing alike.

No. 374840

>>374830
Right? He also voices Mio in Nie no Machi. It's kinda weird seeing him as the seme kek. He can definitely pull off a range of personalities which is pretty impressive.

No. 374843

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>>374830
Wtf I love Netoru now

No. 374845

>>374826
I suppose I am? Agreed about Azuma being bulliable, he walks right into it every time kek
>>374840
Hearing netoru as seme in nnm was hilarious to me because of how his moans were way more high pitched and loud than the uke kek. He was decent in the nukani pairings where he's the seme, but I still prefer his bottom roles in that game and in general.

No. 374886

>>374843
And unironically voices the moid in natsu no kusari too kek.

No. 374892

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>>374886
That I knew, gives that fanart extra layers kek perfect. Natsu no kusari has a surprisingly large female following, I believe it was the only Clockup game to get a taste of the merch their BL games get, is his inclusion + the hetfag obsession with maledom/femsub the main reason why?

No. 374894

>>374892
i saw some cgs of that game and i just wonder myself why do straight women want to get abused so bad? like why would you want to get choked or treated in a shitty way and even give consent to that shit. men already treat us awful enough in the real world.

No. 374897

>>374894
Most straight women don't want that? The masochist ones are just irritatingly loud.
For this game, I've seen people claim that there's some good psychological analysis stuff in the midst of all that rape? I still wouldn't bother sitting through all that shit for a few crumbs of supposedly good stuff, but maybe some people find it worth the effort.

No. 374899

>>374897
In the case of euphoria it’s just
>hours of rape
>LE WHOLESOME AT THE END

No. 374904

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>>374894
I'm straight and still have no idea, ask the husbandofag and male yandere threads. Everyone used to chalk it up to bpd and daddy issues but it's ~problematic~ to say that now.
>>374897
It's a super short game, but it ultimately offers nothing over room no. 9. It gets shilled more for its psychological aspects because it's not BL, not because it did it better.

No. 374920

>>374894
Like BL don't have weird as shit tropes, come the fuck now.

No. 374924

>>374920
nta, yes but we want those tropes inflicted on men not women kek there's a big difference, most of the women that read straight vns self insert and want those things inflicted on themselfs which is the weird part

No. 374928

>>374892
I don’t get the simping for him too. I get it for the sayooshi mc and the muramasa one tho. Since their bl releases tho, clock up has started to pamper yumes and some moid fans seethe for that. They started to make their male protagonists hot and hire seiyuu for them. Even including them in some cgs. They should make an otome branch actually and save otome. Make schizo sadistic heroines who force their LIs to fuck each other and eat each other's cum.

No. 374952

>>374894
I used to be into maledom during my teen years even though I have no daddy issues, never had any weird relationship with a man and I actually hate being told what to do. If someone tries to act assertive with me in real life it makes me feel uncomfortable. So I can't explain it either

No. 374959

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>>374845
>Hearing netoru as seme in nnm was hilarious to me because of how his moans were way more high pitched and loud than the uke
niemachi in general is pretty memeable cause hisora has such a deep voice for an uke kek, he literally sounds like some random guy. I really liked netoru as mio and his frienemies with asuku even though he doesn't suit the rapechad role though he was super cute in the fandisk, made me tear up ngl. Naruomi was a better yandere rapechad. I still can't believe that's seiji though cause he sounds so different in rn9. Still, pretty funny he had so much fun doing that he just shows up in every single thing now. Reminds me of Ryu's seiyuu in the post-game interviews and how surprisingly genki he was.

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>>374924
>most of the women that read straight vns self insert
NTA, but it might just be a specific type of fan? Maybe I'm being naive, but I see a lot of otome players online insisting they don't self-insert, and I've taken that at face-value. To me, it doesn't seem fair to make that assumption because people have the same exact misconception about people into BL (namely, the dumb belief that yaoi readers self-insert onto the uke when overwhelmingly, that has not been my experience).
>>374904
>It gets shilled more for its psychological aspects because it's not BL, not because it did it better.
Are the two even similar thematically? To me, the highlight of RN9 was watching their friendship fall apart because of the situation they were placed in. The only reason any of it happened was because they were forced into it. I thought Natsu no Kusari was about some weird guy kidnapping and torturing a girl of his own volition?

No. 374964

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>>374959
I love naruomi! I wonder if the translation will have an r18 patch too.

No. 374977

>>374960
End A, the class disparity: both couples have a lower class dom who lives in a society abusing the sub partly out of envy of the hand they were dealt, and partly because they're unable to understand their real feelings. Maledom Netoru incel ml is the focus in that regard and the girl is barely characterized; she's the focus of the porn. He lets her go, she doesn't report the crime for realistic blackpilled reasons and moves on with her life, and he gets fixed in a way in the good endings, one bad ending is the TnC Shiki white shirt end, and he stops himself before he kidnaps her in the true ending. There's also a forbidden relationship theme from their conflicting backgrounds and personalities. All of that should be what attracted the yume cult following because that's catnip for them.
It's not bad by low budget eroge standards, but it doesn't hit the same without both leads having proper characterization and the build up to how the mcs got that way and the tiny things they could've done to avoid it. Instead you get the internal monologue of a teenage incel and a girl getting raped. It walked so Rn9 could run. They have a similar feel tho and they're both short, I can recommend anyone deeply in love with one play the other.

No. 375038

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>>374964
He's so whiny and mentally ill I love him too nonna… Your post just made me realize nie no machi is getting a switch port in english, kek how are they even gonna do that? 40% of the game is the H scenes especially Naruomi's entire business. Nie no machi is a good old collection of every fetish under the sun. Though it will be fun to see what zombilica replaces them with, the setting is so fun and funny to explore. How are they even gonna sfw 35 in the fandisk holy kek

No. 375072

>>374924
> yes but we want those tropes inflicted on men not women kek
By using your logic wanting to see people raped or incest is schizo material
>read straight vns self insert and want those things inflicted on themselfs which is the weird part
it's fiction, jesus

No. 375076

>>375072
someone's a bitter masochist

No. 375102

do you guys know how i'm supposed to install the 18+ patch for paradise? i just recently brought the game but i have no idea how to install stuff like that, do i just copy the files in the folder??

No. 375107

>>375102
You have to replace the patch folder with the one in your main game.

No. 375112

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>>375102
just drop into game folder, hit extract, and say yes to replace. if it fucks up try doing what the sweet pool patch guide says.

No. 375124

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Why is every BLVN protagonist an orphan?

No. 375126

>>375124
So is every single Disney princess, dead parent(s) is just a common protagonist trope. If a BLVN mc has a father they better be a route option ingame.

No. 375129

>>374960
NTA but even without the self insertion bullshit it's still fucked up to get off to women being abused. A big part of why I like BL is that I can explore messy dynamics without having to be reminded that this shit happened and can happen again to me in real life, watching even fictional women being abused genuinely upsets me and like the other anon I really don't understand why so many women love it in otome.

No. 375133

>>375126
>So is every single Disney princess
Most of them just have a dead mom, but even then some of them have moms (Aurora, Mulan, Rapunzel, Moana)
BL boys always got two dead parents.

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That's quite the stretch, but yeah I wonder who's raping Takara(?)

No. 375139


No. 375145

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>>375124
In Lkyt, Tasuku's parents are both alive at the beginning, at least.

No. 375147

>>375133
In nie no machi bother Hisora's parents are alive. His mom even shows up. Also in NTY Haru's dad is alive.

No. 375148

>>375147
>Also in NTY Haru's dad is alive
are you referring to his maybe daddy being Kouichi or was his dad mentioned in the material collections? My friend said that some of the lore stuff is exclusive to that like Haru apparently being a child rapist

No. 375150

>>375148
That's explained ingame, iirc, but Haru's dad is the head of the organization he's a part of. He says it himself that when his dad kicks the bucket, which will be soon, he'll probably be disposed of. The setting book confirms his dad has around seventy children.

No. 375152

>>375150
Aaaaah okay
>The setting book confirms his dad has around seventy children
Shit man, he doesn't pull out ever

No. 375153

>>375152
He's a serial rapist, of course he doesn't

No. 375154

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