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>>104975>Can any anons answer my question in regards to the CCP's censorship of BL? I specifically want to know how the Untamed was even released and adapted without the author being sent to one of those re-education camps.
Some people actually spread a rumor that she's in prison but it's fake. Most BL authors stay anonymous, she never shows her face, her only interviews are via audio and the novels are released on private blogs, meaning she isn't spreading her fujo propaganda on public sites lol
I honestly think that The Untamed was just super lucky. I guess it helped that they mentioned that they're bestest friends a couple times (and there are some blokes who enjoyed it and now unironically try to make themselves believe that they're really just bros kek), though you can see in the BTS that they did refer to them as boyfriends meaning the actors know what they're supposed to portray. And with that series being such a big success (the actors went from no names to the best selling in entire China thanks to only that) of course other BL works are to be adapted as well.
However I read that censorship got even stricter last year, e.g. zombies are no longer allowed (because zombies are dead humans and the dead are to be respected) and seeing as many chinese novels are set in fantasy settings, that only means even more difficulties, in addition to try and make the romance as subtle as possible, they also need to change up the plot. I hope that it'll work out nevertheless, seeing as many of the actors confirmed are quite big names already and work of top celebrities can't be banned that easily. Interestingly, for one of the actors this is already his 2nd BL role, so that's quite risky of him.>>105143
I don't get it either, most people hating on BL are uber woke fakebois. Normal girls and women usually just don't care at all, they don't even know what exactly it is other than "weirdos who like gay anime boys".
I've noticed a lot of normie-leaning radfem spaces blaming BL of "brainwashing" girls into trooning out which is plain ignorant because they're dodging the real issue altogether by reducing the complexity to "girl fetishizes gay ppl and tries to live out her fetish duuhh!!!!". Not denying that it's a factor at all, but if girls were more comfortable being GNC lesbians without the extra steps of living the aiden LARP dating other female fakebois it wouldn't happen, but I think this is just the aftermath of fujos constantly being made fun of for "self-inserting" into the characters despite being women so they went the opposite direction of "b-but I'm actually a man you know, that makes it less cringe!".
It's not the genre's fault for giving a private space for women to express their sexual needs while being detached from the expectations placed upon them in other female-featuring stories. Sure helped me to come to terms with my lesbianism because I used it as a proxy to interact with other women sexually if that makes any sense.
does it help that close male friendships aren't as looked down on as in the west? You can see old guys holding hands and nobody care, don't get me started on 'no homo' girl friendships.
I started watching 'Winter Begonia' lately, manly bc of the 1920/30s aestethic, but I immediatly realised it's based on BL.
I don't think so. Same sex friendships in other asian countries (like in S.Korea) might be more touchy touchy than in the West, but that's not really the case in China or at least not to that big extent. For example, chinese kpop idols often say that they're weirded out by how uncomfortably physically close same sex friends in Korea are, stuff like carrying another man is definitely not seen as a normal thing. But no matter where, people (men) who don't want to see gay content will always find a way to make themselves believe it's straight.
In the case of The Untamed maybe the fact that it was so low budget contributed to whoever is responsible for censoring not paying that close attention to it because they thought it'll flop and thus not reach many people anyway.
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tfw I wish there was more bad boy/delinquent stuff
Can't get enough of those yankii boyz
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Only 3 chapters in and I'm excited to see how this webtoon 'Semantic Error' will develop. It's been a while since I felt this way about anything yaoi related. I liked how the characters felt like real ppl, being in uni, majoring in design and computer science, having strong personalities etc. From what I've been told this one is shounen ai but the author plans on making extras with smut scenes. Idc about that, I just loved the characters and hope I don't get disappointed later on
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If you're looking for kisses etc then sorry to disappoint you, as mentioned before it's all very subtle, they only say things like them being best friends/soulmates and this is the most intimate they get.
I personally never found it slow at all, so maybe it just isn't for you? You need to look for thai, taiwanese (I really liked Formula 17) and japanese movies if you want to see actual boy love, that stuff is forbidden in China.
Oooh the art looks really nice, im gonna check it out.
The kind of yaoi i like, i guess would be descirbed as vanille? I really dont like rape or incesty things same with the yuri i read. I like fluf with good art but i dont mind some drama. It's hard sometimes to find good yaoi that dont have the rapey tropes.
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Man, I remember watching the movie Gohatto/Taboo 10years ago, because its Japanese only to be surprised by the gay. Good times
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I don’t even remember why I clicked on this manga this morning, but I saw the tags “guro/gore” and “vore” and even though I’m not into that shit, my stupid monkey brain decided to keep reading anyway and I shamefully really like it… I love the art and the characters and I really want to see what happens lol. https://myreadingmanga.info/suzuri-ryo-madk-eng/
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You have fine taste anon! Suzuri Ryo's MADK is excellent, I'm glad you weren't discouraged by the gore/vore tags. Actually, the guro isn't that strong despite what many people say.
If you search for other BL stories from them there's Wembe (which features big cats centaur people?) and The Hunter and the Beast, but beware of semi-bestiality in that one.
You may enjoy their other non-BL works as well, like Magnolia, Toruso no Bokura (picrelated) and Jimba.
Aside from the Edgy gore, I think the art is really beautiful. You can tell that the mangaka has done a lot of research and worldbuilding
It's a shame how the quality has lowered a bit for other chapters, but I guess they gotta meet a deadline
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Anons what is your favorite BL/Yaoi pic?
>as well as series and games aimed at fujoshi (and fudanshi) like Hetalia, sports anime
Hetalia was aimed at fujos?? I mean I guess it makes sense but wow
Persona changed a lot since persona 2 unfortunately
The new fire emblem has some m/m romance options I think ? not sure because I dont care about fire emblem but I remember reading this somewhere
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I found this Manhwa called 호형호제 Our Companionship and it's so cute
I'm a total sucker for mmorpg+BL+catfishing stories lol
Persona 1 and 2 were developed by another team so they're not really comparable to P3 and the rest. I think the weirdest thing here is that the developers actually plan for Yosuke in P4 to be a love interest and to this day even straight guys who are allergic to gay shit think he's the most believable option and obviously in the closet, Akechi is very obviously fujobait but he's never gonna be a gay option, but Vincent can fall in love with and marry a guy
in Catherine Fullbody of all games. Given that P4 was so successful and was developed super fast after P3's release, and how in sequels and spinoffs the developers kept adding blatant fanservice between Yu and Yosuke I'm gonna guess the developers don't want to experiment too much with Persona because it's the most successful series from Atlus and they'd rather experiment and do whatever they want in smaller projects that are marketed towards a different audience. They know that they don't need to confirm any gay character or couple to attract a female audience anyway.
>>106330>akechi is trash
you shut your MOUTH>>106378
The main difference between Akechi and the other confidants (in Royal) is that with everyone else's storylines it's all about Joker helping them out with whatever personal problem they're dealing with in their lives and become stronger people, but with Akechi his confidant events are all about creating a deep bond between them and learning more about his character by just hanging around and talking. In addition to that there's a possiblity to hang out with him at the aquarium which is considered a very usual dating spot for couples.
There's no way it was unintentional for the development team to make it so intimate but bitches chickened out. Dating your adoptive little sister and teacher is fine but apparently a gay option crossed the line. Fuck media for creating deep, meaningful bonds between male characters and never following through.
Hell yeah old men
I think the appeal of Yu/Adachi is the toxicity love/hate? Like tom and jerry lol
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Anons I just read this and it was so vanilla and fluffy I teared up a bit…
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Im a rotten degenerate and loved this so much i bought a physical copy to keep on my self
Also im not sure if this is off topic because its gender/bender but has anyone else read Boku-girl?
Yes it's so good! I'm so glad they went with the ending it did, most series cop out because "no homo", but the author really said fuck it.
I wish there were more chapters, the MC's love interest looked like Kuroo from HQlol
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You got me curious and looked at the ending then first chapter but it somehow rubs me the wrong way, I feel like this is one of those stories where the MC goes "Since I'm an super effeminate guy and it's hard to deal with it in society I'm obviously a girl then!" instead of just being that effeminate guy. That being said I wished I read this type of manga before because it's hard to keep an open mind about it now that the trannies ruined this theme for me, that being said I think it's off-topic since the MC chooses to remains female so "no homo".
Boku-o.p. I am a bi, and personally love the awkward flipping back and forth between genders at the worst time, its like a humiliation thing. But yeah i totally get this isnt really BL/yaoi, but if you are interested in general ecchi its a fun read, great art, and hilarious.>>106503
I loved the corny plot of Loki messing with mortals, my ecchi doesnt need to be complicated. And Takeru is just my type. I love the cat eyed, spikey haired tough guy delinquent look. Any suggestions with boys like him, i would love some!
I want to read boku-girl again, rip mangarock
Holy shit anon thank you so much for posting this, I had no idea what to expect but this is sooo pretty. I wish there was more of it!
Side note, I'm usually the type that prefers vanilla nonsexual BL because porn is off-putting to me, but apparently degenerate edgy fantasy shit doesn't register the same way and I love it, wtf is that?
I was really considering buying myself a physical copy too lmaoo. Maybe I will now.>>106524
I'm glad others like it!! I'm still thinking about it to this day…
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>>106422>Yu tries way too hard
That's why it's fun.
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Holy shit, anon. I've been laughing at this panel for 5 minutes. Great rec, thanks.
It would be better of she was just a character there to be cute tbh. The fact that she's shoehorned in and made to be important when there isn't a lot in her character is what many people dislike.
I always kind of laugh at the excuse, that is that "the characters are just not gay", that many (coomers) use when justifying Atlus's choice of making the male characters non-dateable. Like sure, none of the male characters are gay despite some obvious hints, but all the female adults happen to be pedophiles. That's good, right?
atlus is just largely anti-gay, their interviews are really telling.
sidenote about p5 though - Does anyone else dislike fandom portrayals of Ryuji? They make him an uwu soft boy next door when he's a huge dick for no reason. What made me dislike him was right after a dungeon, the victim
is traumatized/homeless and he just burps in their face for no reason? Like did no one else play the game or are they just ignoring this scene? It drives me insane.
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Anons… Reading this hurt me… :'(
I especially hate it since the fandom puts more of the blame on Morgana who's a fucking cat half the time yet despite that he's somehow 'abusing the babby Ryuji uwu'. I think it's because people generally latch onto the 'bro' characters personally though I only liked Junpei (who was the least bro of them since most of his character centered around a slight rival angle with the protagonist and his thing with Chidori) while Yosuke is just homophobic half the time which could have been fine if they left him in as a romance option but they didn't so it just felt kind of mean at times? Honestly making Yosuke bi/gay would have fixed a lot of shit.
Ironically enough when you play as the femc in P3P Junpei becomes the best bro of all the series, P1 and P2 included. I didn't care about him more than the other characters at first when playing when playing as the male MC but his social link with the FEMC is a really nice addition.
>Honestly making Yosuke bi/gay would have fixed a lot of shit.
Given how he acts in the sequels/spinoffs I like to think he is and he's just in denial because come on, Atlus just won't stop adding more and more hints/fanservice with Yu to the point where I'm wondering if the developers didn't regret not leaving his romance option in the original game at some point.
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Anyone reading room no 9? I got it because it looks like the persona 4 characters and it reads well, but man some scenes had me queasy.
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Nagisa x Karma just seems such classic self-inserty baby”s first yaoi couple
I like cross dressing in BL but it’s very a case to case thing
I am not reading it but I plan to, do you like it so far ? i kind of expect some sort of BL euphoria but less extreme i guess, i haven't read euphoria but the idea of something similar with BL elements sounds perfect to me >>108465
no you're not alone i dislike it most of the time too, i dont know why
Cross-dressing in BL makes one character basically the woman in all but name, like the pic you posted is an exception not the rule
It basically makes it straight genderbend doujin
HOW DARE YOU, quit being a moralfag let us enjoy underage characters getting gang raped, you're probably just a scrote anyway /s
Yeah the frequency of rapes yaoi sends a problematic
message for younger readers and might get some of them into ddlg shit
>>108589>To be honest I like crossdressing as a doujinshi fetish when it's done as a strictly a bedroom thing, like wearing a maid dress
I feel this type of this thing is kinda offensive to women, it's like drag for me, sure it's done by gay men but it still mocks the female form, so maid dresses and wearing womens clothes in bed, even if it's being done by 2 males, it still reinforces misogyny>>108588
both can perpetuate ddlg shit, especially if the Uke is super female coded, like nagisa is literally just a girl, meant for self insert
Fucking leave already, this reads like a weak bait. Why does this thread constantly get raided by people who want to tell us dumb fujos how problematic
and "misogynistic" we are based on some surface level observations that have been discoursed to death already? Take it to your twitter fandom tag or something.
I did not even for one moment compare yaoi to IRL porn, IRL porn is much much worse and yaoi is a fantasy, but you have to admit that fantasy has power, if Scrotes can be broken by the fantasy of hentai and traps to become knee high sock wearing AGPs then yaoi has power as well, in certain yaoi it's clear to everyone who the female stand in-is and we get shit like fakebois or r/ftmpunishment, my God no is saying this is the worst shit ever, this criticism is coming from people who like BLs and yaoi and want to remove certain toxic
I mean, yeah, there are lots of retarded teens thinking they’re men because they have a mix of troons grooming them into thinking they’re that perfect anime guy they saw once, AND anime porn, but it’s not just the anime porn as how you think.
Also, the people posting here are not those retarded teens, if it bothers you so much, stop posting in this thread your fucking takes and go to twitter to help the poor kids you’re so worried about, retard.
>>108590>Where's Gangrape-chan when you need her?
I'm here. Got any good recs? Been in the mood for, like, abuse and really nasty dirty talk.>>107882
It's good, I recommend it. (Especially
because they look like Persona 4 characters.) I posted a bit about it in the last thread. It's fap-worthy, lots of good scenes, and anything gross can be switched off in the settings.
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to be fair nagisa has cake and woman bearing hips, it's easy for artists just to make him a girl.
But no I agree with you, sometimes crossdressing becomes too much. If I wanted pussy I'd read hentai lol
What's this from? Looks cute.>>108633
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At first I started reading it because of the curiosity, but the story is quite decent.
Caius is an amazing husbando material.
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On top of that he crossdresses a lot in the actual anime.
I like it though so I have no problem with it.
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It was so hot when Karma and Nagisa were beating the shit out of each other btw
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I ran across this the other day and it was the hottest shit I've seen in a long while so I thought I'd recommend it. It's called "Junai Drop Out" by Misaka Niumu.
What part of >Being reasonably critical of BL is welcomed but don't come here only to bait or excessively moralsperg about fujos or how much you hate BL as a genre. Take it to Twitter.
don't you dumb shits understand? >>109596
I didn't know I had a body writing kink but this image made me realize it.
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TFW you have mild fujo tendencies but are disgusted by anything anal related but also butt stuff seems to be unavoidable in NSFW BL media
Can someone please recommend something with as little anal stuff as possible, because BJs and frotting >>>>>>>
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Hell, even most old yaoi is bad. Worse even because of all the pointless rape lmao. You're better off seeking content from twitter artists these days.
Also, I get people like size difference but this looks so ridiculous.was the discord deleted?or was there a purge?
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this is one of my faves! good taste, anon.
pic related, i really like that sweet spot between not extremely lanky but also not extremely muscular men in bl. maki masaki is really good at this. her bottoms are always super cute, needy and slutty. i especially recommend koisuru hypnotic therapy (a guy gets erotic massages to get rid of his tendency to fall in love easily) and yasashii pantsu no nugasekata (a high school boy starts wearing panties because he fantasies about his best friend taking them off for him)!
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i love red/blue from pokemon so fucking much. i shipped it in the anime as a child and i'm decades older now and still ship it. i love that we've gotten to see them grow into adults
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Personally I prefer isshushipping but Red and Blue are cute as well.
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So I don't usually ship m/m characters even in traditional Shonen, but I really want to talk about Hajime no Ippo, which I will proudly say that I love to death and also that it's super fucking gay that its almost ridiculous
Ippo(the MC) legit lusts after brooding rival Miyata and waits for the day to fight him, then there's sendo who is brash aggressive character and he has so many gay moments with ippo and even excluding the MC all the male characters have so many intimate gay moments, like Mashiba(a frighting brooding sorta anti-hero boxer)and Itagaki(a young upstart at ippo's gym) going basically on a date shopping for clothes
and the female characters are also something else, like if there was a category for least developed female characters then hajime no ippo would easily rank in the top 5, cause every female character is either bland no personality supportive mother or bland no personality supportive sister and the exception to this archetype does nothing for the plot but give out exposition to the readers
You're not alone, Anon. I really wish HnI was more popular so we could get more anime seasons, but it'll probably never happen.
Seconding how surprisingly gay the show is.
EVERYONE should read Sign if you have time to spare. You can complain about anything else in the story except the main pairing. I’ve never shipped anything harder.
I had no intention of falling down the fujo rabbit hole but whenever I look up fanart for one series, I see another and just start reading away. What are you all reading currently?
My reading list at the moment:
No way, vampires don’t exist (tappytoon)
Vampire Heart (lezhin)
Red Candy (rosesquad scans)
Mr. 100% Perfect (tapas)
Fate Makes No Mistakes (lezhin)
And I was reading ANTI P.T. (lezhin) but it seems like there’s going to be some tragedy for the second lead soon.
Cherry Blossom Bloom After Winter (tappytoon) and Semantic Error (chili tangerine scans) are on my list to start reading soon. >>109986
I hate the titan’s bride for that very reason. It feels uncomfortable to look at them and the way he constantly refers to their size differences as cute even when fucking when he’s the average size for a human.
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one of my favorite moments in the manga https://imgur.com/a/pUkUc4A
I never even thought about shipping these 2 cause they'd never interacted but he gave these two a heartfelt moment and friendship out of nowhere, the author does this with every one one of the major and minor characters
For stuff with an actual plot, if I already know the title I just google '[title] manga read online' or something similar. Lots of sites host scanlations.
If it's not a popular/well known enough manga you might be SOL.
For PWP I just browse myreadingmanga like the other Anon said.
MRM is already on my watchlist but like mentioned I only go there for smut. I'm so lost on how to follow current releases and where to read them so I barely even know any titles. At the moment I mostly just hear about them through the grapevine or by lucky chance so I just don't understand how people can be so aware of every single title coming out. I mean I follow Japanese publications so I know about the new ones but the scanlations/international releases can take up to 2 years so it's really hard to keep track.
Guess I'll just have to learn more Japanese to actually read the originals lmao
baka-manga updates. You can’t read manga on there, but it tells you who scanlated what, and usually where you can find more by that team (website links).
Otherwise, I procure tags on regular hosting sites and if I find something I like, I’ll look up the team and see what else they’ve worked on. On instagram it’s especially popular for people to purchase officially translated chapters of manga/manhua/webtoons and repost them there or on aggregators, the same thing happens on facebook. Usually one person or a group is reposting multiple works from similar genres (in this case, BL) so that’s how you can get introduced to new series and more scan teams too (because of general discussion about BL.)
I don’t follow Japanese BL so if this isn’t what you were looking for, I’m sorry anon! But BL webtoons are pretty popular these days, you can visit lezhin or tappytoon or tapas and search through the BL series to see what’s trending. Lezhin is definitely the most popular out of the three sites, though. They churn out interesting series consistently. Painter of the Night is afaik the most popular BL webtoon atm (smut), if you can find somewhere to read it for free then you can probably find anything there. You should also be able to search on most aggregators with a “sort by most popular” function, and/or see what’s most recently viewed on the homepage.
The Keystone Romantic Combination looks very sweet. It’s completed though, I don’t want to start reading it only to get to the end and be left knowing that there’s no more.
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Since quarantine has been spiraling me back into being a fujo - what are anons' favourite visual novels?
I finished Room No.9 yesterday and while it was fucked up as expected from Clockup I strangely enjoyed it. The artwork was also beautiful. I don't think however I could play anything like this again.
I don't think I ever found a perfect visual novel for me but I enjoyed Dramatical Murder and Togainu no Chi. Back in the day I liked playing fanmade vns but they quickly went to shit with Steam's woke crap and western art style.
I think Nitro+Chiral's novels are always very nice. Have you tried sweet pool or Lamento?
Other than that I don't really know any other well done BL visual novels. The amateur stuff tends to be bad.
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Out of curiosity, what kind of discussion/content/fandoms etc would you guys want out of a fujo server?
Nta but i would like stuff like anime discussion separated from manga discussion since sometimes a manga has stuff the anime doesn’t have and the other way around.
Husbandofagging, ship loving and ship bashing channels.
Maybe a channel to discuss authors. Fanart posting, porn fanart posting and parody posting channels.
Music, because sometimes an anime could have some nice songs and whatnot, maybe someone has a sick mixtape they want to show to everyone so we can enjoy reading to the max.
Yaoi memes, because why not, maybe regular memes as well to keep the cancer at bay.
RP request channels for whoever is into that stuff.
Fanfic sharing and fanfic discussion channels.
Random yaoi pictures sharing, sfw and porn channels.
Maybe furry yaoi stuff for the furries to keep the furry cancer at bay as well.
I think that’s basically it.
Agree except for the ship hating, unless we have good moding the discord is going to become shit fast>>112792
Yes please, +22 would be amazing
I think trying to keep it as simple as possible at first would be better and keep adding stuff according to the needs
I agree, but I think this discord might be too slow (maybe that's why the old one apparently died) unless we get people from other places as well.
It would be best if we could ban ~discourse
Please email me if you want to join the discord. Thanks! firstname.lastname@example.org>>112751
I LOVED Room No. 9. I've mentioned several times in the last thread, probably - I've lost track. It's just delicious. Depressing, but hits a lot of my kinks, so. Unfortunately, some of the best scenes happen after you give Seiji the enema, lmao. DAICHI RUBBING HIS FOOT ON SEIJI'S DICK IN THE SHOWER?? AND the ending where Seiji basically becomes a whore to old men while Daichi watches?? Sign me up.
Did you play Hashihime? (Assuming you did based on the image.) Another depressing game, but insanely beautiful art.
>>112790>Maybe furry yaoi stuff for the furries to keep the furry cancer at bay as well.
Hell no. Furries need to be kept out at all costs. Most furry gay porn is made by male cumbrains and have all those sick anal prolapse style fetishes included. Like regular fudanshis sometimes like some weird shit in their bara stuff but gay furries are unbearable with their degeneracy because they're all sex-crazed druggies. Wouldn't share a space with them, ever. Even with a containment channel.
Honestly the best BL discord would be 20+, no discourse, no ship shaming, female only, no kink policing except for graphic gore and snuff (and furries) and everything else goes.
If you can read Japanese try Pil/SLASH's Shingakkou ~Noli me tangere~. It's an occult mystery with reversible options for the MC too. Some grotesque imagery is involved and some characters come from really depressing circumstances, but it's good if you like dark stuff.
And agreed on recent western VNs being too…woke. It reminds me of that "Office Type" game with loads and loads of characters of ~all genders uwu~ but i bet they'll all suffer paper thin character/plot development from overambition.
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A kind and precious anon in the previous thread linked to a massive dump of In these words, but unfortunately the site got deleted and reading the archived one has made me partially blind. I've searched around for hours now, does anyone have any tips to where I can find it online?