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No. 1821[Reply]

With the admin's verdict on /2X/ (and pink pill related topics as a whole) announced, where should farmers who want to discuss female politics head to?
The current options seem to be:
>New imageboard
>Migration to other, existing imageboards
>Migration to Reddit
As far as the first option goes, we may be able to create a space on https://8kun.top/ or https://endchan.net/ using their board creation functions. The only downside is that both places are also home to all sorts of unsavory males (virulent racists, pedophiles, pornography junkies, manosphere users, etc).
We could also create our own standalone board/site, though we'd need someone with the proper skills for that. Post any thoughts/suggestions on /2X/ migration here.
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No. 3717

>>3716
Okay, where are the links then?

No. 3718

>>3717
if the invite's expired, feel free to ask for a new one in the chat!

No. 3721

>>3698
No, it's mostly one butthurt anti-gc/pp anon falseflagging like a lunatic.



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No. 1[Reply]

This is a test-board to assess if a female space for politics will be sufficient in giving everybody what they want while removing some tension in /ot/.

This is not currently permanent but, it can be.
If this board works out then I will make it a permanent board next year. For now you all have the choice of posting in the /ot/ thread or making new threads here. It's your choice.

No. 2

/ot/ rules apply for now. If you have rule requests or any complaints then you can post about it here >>>/meta/11760
Don’t make threads targeting specific nationalities, ethnicities, or races. You can discuss policy and government all you like but don't racebait. It is a global rule violation, this isn't /pol/.



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No. 5125[Reply]

Vent about scrotes here! Share your experiences with annoying, terrible, worthless men you've encountered. Post screenshots of men being awful. Talk about how you avoid shitty men and why.

Rules:
-Please do not respond to scrotebait. Taking bait will result in a 3-day ban from /ot/, no appeals.
-No femcel sperging. An example of femcel sperging is 'kill your father to even things out'. Posts in the vein of 'Aileen Wuornos did nothing wrong' 'rapists deserve to die' are allowed.
-No racebaiting as it derails the thread.

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No. 5444

>>5441
Sidenote loving all the discussion. Freud drives me up the wall. It’s extremely frustrating the female professionals he was working with early in his career were written off because Men wanted to believe Freud’s crock of shit. It’s such a waste.

No. 5445

>>5436
I remember just 4 years ago, in TheRPGMinx (GNC lesbian, don't know if she is pandering to trans or not now since I haven't watched in years. It was her first ever live interview with someone afaik) he commented over how quickly SJWry is affecting videogames. (4:45 minute)

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>>5445
Anon sorry if I'm wrong but this definitely sounds like a man and looks like a troon. Am I missing something?
(facecam) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtFDeNtpdXQ

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>>5453
Samefagging, yeah, this is a definite tranny. Guess he got away with claiming to just be a "gnc lesbian" by avoiding facecam all those years, tragic. Even his Twitter bio and the shit he posts is like he isn't really trying to hide it anymore lmao
https://twitter.com/Mangaminx

No. 5457

I hate being told to "add a man for diversity" for advertising stuff and ofc the provided photo is a white man



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No. 4526[Reply]

A place to discuss and vent about pickme or fake self-serving feminist behaviour you have witnessed or experienced, online or IRL, to post cringe screenshots or memes, theories and tinfoils etc.

This is separate from the tradthot general as it’s not just for discussing particular women with particular belief systems, as there are many kinds of pickme out there. However, trad-thottery can still be discussed as it is classified as pickme behaviour.

Pick Me General #1 >>>/2X/627
Handmaiden Thread >>>/ot/398608
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Maybe it's because a lot of women have been hurt by men and reading shit like "boys are actually wholesome you're just mean uwu" pisses them off?

No. 5343

>>5321
Absolutely. I see this shit happen with straight couples who have open relationships too. Man wants to have his cake and eat it too, gets furious when his partner sleeps with another man. Like. What did he expect?

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i wonder if any scarethots were peaked by this candid discussion on how men brown-nose in the workplace.

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No. 5038[Reply]

There's an /rfg/ thread that shared some good stuff but it hasn't been used in years and it's not only focused on resources. I thought it would be nice to have a place that compiles material related to radical and gender critical feminism. Content that has inspired, influenced and otherwise helped peak you. This information is not just for personal use but for anons who want quick references when they need help peaking others with reliable data. Examples of things to post in this thread:
>Links to ebooks, pdfs, news articles, videos
>Research studies
>Podcasts
>Documentaries
>Screencaps of stories or comments (posting someone's personal opinions/experiences is okay, but preferably when what they're discussing is backed by data)
Please use this thread for posting resources, summarizing their content and optionally sharing why they were helpful to you. Brief comments and questions are okay but try not to have extended discussions here; take conversations to an associated thread (i.e. article about prescribing kids hormone blockers can be discussed in trans threads, statistics about femicides in PP Revival, etc) so this stays clean and easy to browse. Asking anons if they have recommendations for resources that address certain topics is okay.
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A Girl’s Place in the World
https://quillette.com/2019/05/09/a-girls-place-in-the-world/
An anthropological article about more "primitive" societies and the roles women are forced into within them. Discusses how this has influenced modern communities and has insights from primatologists since primates are our closest animal relatives and they wanted to examine sex-based roles from an evolutionary perspective.
>Male cults would punish women with rape or execution for intruding on their rituals. They are found across cultures all over the world, from hunter-gatherers to agricultural societies.
>Data on age at marriage across nearly 200 hunter-gatherer societies [shows] the average age at first marriage is recorded as 14 for girls and 21 for boys.
>Marriage arrangement is a form of male coercion and a way parents can benefit by supplying the most influential males with brides.
>Describes how girls are beaten by their families until they are broken enough to accept arranged marriages. Some attempt/complete suicide when other forms of protest fail.
>Male aggression against females in primates, including humans, often functions to control female sexuality to the male’s reproductive advantage.
>There is little reason to believe that there are, or once were, societies of primitive matriarchs, societies in which women predominated in the same way that men predominate in the societies we actually know.
>Male dominance characterizes the majority of several hundred other species that, like our own, belong to the order Primates.
>Modern advances toward sex equality reside on a “unique foundation of historical conditions, values, economic opportunities, heroism on the part of women who fought for suffrage, and perhaps especially technological developments which led to birth control and labor-saving devices and hence minimized physical differences between the sexes."

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Male Aggression Against Women: An Evolutionary Perspective
https://sci-hub.se/10.1007/bf02692265
This is by Barbara Smuts, one of the academics cited for her research on primates in the article above. She has bachelor's degree in anthropology from Harvard and a Ph.D in neurological and biological behavioral science from Stanford. This is a journal article but it's not difficult to read. Male aggression is typically explored from a social perspective but this is based on evolutionary reasons which should not be dismissed. I'm providing more extensive notes but I recommend reading the whole thing.

>Why is male aggression against women common? Why is aggression often linked to sex? Why is male aggression against women more frequent and intense in some societies than others?

>An evolutionary analysis assumes male aggression against women reflects [sexual] selection pressures… but it does not imply male domination of women is genetically determined or that male aggression toward women is an immutable feature of human nature. In some societies male aggressive coercion of women is very rare, and even in societies with frequent male aggression, some men do not show these behaviors. Thus, the challenge is to identify situational factors that predispose society toward or away from the use of sexual aggression.
>Male eagerness to mate, combined with female reluctance to reproduce with any male who comes along, creates an obvious sexual conflict of interest that is universal. Sometimes males improve their chances by offering benefits to females, such as food, protection, or assistance in rearing young. But sometimes males attempt to overcome female resistance by employing force, or the threat of force.
>Many Old World monkeys form strong, life-long bonds with female kin in order to protect against males. Compared with female orangutans who are primarily solitary, they experience far more sexual aggression. (Female spaces and relationships are important while isolation is a risk.)
>Female primates also reduce their vulnerability to male aggression by relationships with particular males. For inPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

No. 5449

>>5447
I have always been interested the evopsych understandings of the patriarchy and cultural misogyny, that said I'm skeptical of using current primates as comparisons to modern humans, we split off from Apes around 8 to 9 million years ago, that's the same gap between lions and housecats, plus even when we were more "ape" we were hunter gathers and persistence hunters, so even in our most primitive state our social struture would have been more similar to wolves then either chimps or bonobos
though I find the latter parts about anthropological probes of different forms of tribal patriarchies to be fascinating
It reminds me of how there was also an evolution of misogyny in roman life as they got more and more Hellenized Ancient Romans (the Romans who predated the both late Republic and Empire) also had some fairly progressive laws and beliefs for their time. Archaic Roman Law allowed wives to divorce their husbands if they laid hands on them, and Cato the Younger (an arch-conservative of his time) believed it was more important to be a decent husband than a decent statesman. though I know many libfems might deride these studies as racist somehow

No. 5450

>>5449
Thanks for your thoughts! I agree, the studies on tribal cultures are intriguing and sometimes horrifying. Regarding similarities to other primates and the housecat analogy, I feel like you still find similarities. That is, domestic cats retain a lot of behaviors you find in their wild ancestors, so making comparisons like that can be another helpful tool in determining what factors lead men to act the ways they do. I appreciated that the study never reached too far in making explicit links between primates and humans but also considered how humans have deviated from their evolutionary past. Also, while chimpanzees primarily eat plants and fruit I think it was Jane Goodall who first observed them hunting for meat in groups (chasing and killing monkeys) so they do have some overlap as hunter-gatherers. I've been meaning to read the book Demonic Males to better understand further links to human behavior.
>an evolution of misogyny in roman life as they got more and more Hellenized
This is interesting, do you have any articles or other material you'd recommend to learn more about those developments?

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>>5450
to understand the evolution of Roman misogyny we have to first understand Greek misogyny, contrary to our notions of continuous progress in social issues, women's rights and political and social freedoms have degenerated various times throughout history prior to the pre-modern age, Greek misogyny as we know it, seems to have come gradually with the mercantile greek city states who imported "civilized ideas" from societies in the near east, these ideas became the de-facto norm in much of Greece with the Athenian ascension(one thing you'll find interesting with many of the famous and 3 dimensional women in ancient Greece who weren't just simple wives or mothers of famous men, they were all either were from pre-Archaic Greece or from regions of Greece that were considered half barbarian, such as Macedonia which was influenced greatly by thracians and Sparta) women such as Sappho, Arete and Hydna, who were a poet, olympic athlete and a philosopher respectfully

similarly with Rome
>Classical Roman law did not allow any domestic abuse by a husband to his wife,[72] but as with any other crime, laws against domestic abuse can be assumed to fail to prevent it. Cato the Elder said, according to his biographer Plutarch, "that the man who struck his wife or child, laid violent hands on the holiest of holy things. Also that he thought it more praiseworthy to be a good husband than a good senator."[73] A man of status during the Roman Republic was expected to behave moderately toward his wife and to define himself as a good husband. Wife beating was sufficient grounds for divorce or other legal action against the husband.[74]

I suggest reading "Debating women's equality" by Ute Gerhard, it goes more into the history of the fluctuating state women's political freedoms and why specifically Europe developed of what we might consider the framework of Feminism and not other cultures, also picrel if your just into the history of ancient Greek women



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No. 4098[Reply]

Gender critical and radical feminism define gender as sociological (feminine/masculine) and sex as biological (female/male). Woman is defined as an adult human female. Radical feminists seek to abolish gender as it is used by patriarchy to oppress women socially, reproductively, and financially. They strive to preserve women's spaces (such as restrooms, locker rooms, and health care providers) and areas of artistic and intellectual expression separate from men.

Trans ideology posits that one's gender is self-determined based on one's feelings and defines woman as the characteristics and behaviors traditionally ascribed to females by society. Increasingly, transactivists are conflating gender and sex and asserting that a person can self-identify both gender and sex.

Gender critical feminists strive to maintain the distinction between gender and sex. The conflation of gender and sex erases the biological reality of women, eliminates women-only spaces, and disestablishes women as a protected class. Existing laws and legislation currently being passed around the world allowing for self-identification on legal documents do not differentiate between gender and sex.

The acronym TERF (Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminism) is used primarily by transactivists and their allies to denigrate radical feminists and other women who express gender critical ideas. Transactivists portray TERFs as violent oppressors by virtue of their ideas alone.

Posts of related news and web articles are welcome. Posts of photos, videos, and blogs of transactivists for the purposes of discussion and critique are welcome. Please refrain from derailing, infighting, and ad hominem attacks. This thread is not intended for the general discussion of feminism, sexuality, misogyny, or misandry.

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>>5031
>non-men
i miss hitler

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>Retired doctor wrongly prescribed sex-change treatments to patients as young as nine, tribunal hears
https://www.yahoo.com/news/retired-doctor-wrongly-prescribed-sex-194128007.html
I have no words. This is just disgusting.

No. 5434

I was on FB and almost spit out my tea when I saw this skit and one woman commented
>You can't even escape to the loos these days. Gender neutral.
Normie women are peaking!!

No. 5435

I don't really give a shit on social media anymore, I love just blocking troons every single time one follows or interacts with me. I couldn't care less if they call me out from behind a block or something.

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Some people are so close to getting the point yet still so far away



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No. 4446[Reply]

Post your memes here, or request for others to make a meme for you.
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No. 5297

>>5294
>male "feminists"

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No. 4378[Reply]

Help. I'd like to argue against transgenderism to convert my female friends. I don't want to alienate them and I don't want to sound conservative or cliched.

Here it is, plainly: for sex (biological) and gender (social) to mismatch, you have to accept the inherent differences, not of the sexes but of the social norms built onto the sexes. Sex changes are cosmetic. You HAVE to indulge in stereotyping and socialisation for there to be a disconnect. Being gender essentialist, manness is male and womanness is female, the sex must be changed to fit. But womanliness doesn't come from a male's femaleness, where did it come from? It comes from the society he lives in.
Trans people are either essentialist or hypocritical.

This doesn't sound talk about women's spaces or sports, or about how well they pass, or about anything that already has a stock rebuttal. Could I rephrase this almost socratically? Could I even hide that I'm talking about trans people, and phrase this as being about antifeminists, who they are against outright?
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No. 5353

I peaked my mum by telling her about the self ID laws and men in women's prisons. Pointing out that any rapist, pedophile, violent man can claim to be a woman and enter a female locker room in a lot of places. She had absolutely no idea and thought trans women were just young effeminate gay men with dysphoria.

With handmaiden friends I just play dumb and ask things like "but wait, aren't we supposed to be moving away from gender stereotypes?" and they usually say "I know what you mean…" but that's as far as it goes.

>>4864
how did it go nona?

No. 5400

you can bring up the fact that troons aren’t actually disproportionately killed in comparison to normal people by saying something like, “it sucks that people spread around this fake statistic because it could scare people** questioning their identity into suppressing their transness”

**depending on who you’re talking to, you can say “trans kids”

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SA^ but crypto is the way to go. put they/them in your bio and start reblogging/retweeting/reposting “ironic” transphobia. repost some of the vile shit TIMs say (by screenshotting it, not directly interacting with it) with the barest of criticism like, “i know trans women deserve to despise their oppressors and fuck terfs, but saying that they deserve to be raped by girldick could possibly be triggering to people with vaginas”. post things about feeling genderless, it’s less of a dog-whistle than saying “gender shouldn’t exist”. making fun of amab/afab non-binary “spicy straight” couples is becoming more acceptable. shove the existence of butch lesbians in everyone’s face, especially from the 60’s-90’s.

in 2022 with the rise of social media, it’s all about the psy-op. they’re more likely to listen to someone “within the community”.

No. 5402

Best way is to ask them what they mean after they say something stupid. There is no argument for trans that isnt "poor gays who want less homophobia" or female hating. So every time they mention something pro trans, just ask what they mean and nothing else. This is Good because you say nothing as well as you didnt Bring the subject Up either

No. 5443

>>5401
>“i know trans women deserve to despise their oppressors and fuck terfs, but saying that they deserve to be raped by girldick could possibly be triggering to people with vaginas”.
This is actually brilliant, adding this to my crypto reserve.



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No. 4326[Reply]

How did you peak? Are you currently peaking? Are you trying to peak someone else? Have you noticed others peaking over certain events?
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No. 5026

>>5009
Anon mine was similar to you but funny enough i peaked because of contra talking about gender critical and hons. led me to a ton of subreddits that are now deleted until i found pinkpill on here. my gf at the time went from being a shy butch to a themby and i slowly mentioned how i thought the trans stuff was bulshit. it lead to a conversation of if i was excluding "trans women" from feminism where i said yes. she basically lost it at that point saying she couldn't be around me. things basically went silent after that with her no longer contacting me despite the years we knew each other. thank god she doesn't know where i live if she wanted to send people after me. i cant delete our conversations which i highly regret as time passes but i am happy we split. there's no way in hell i would want any tra people in my life anymore. all i accept are women as my friends now because none of the male friendships i had ended well. if the world really keeps peaking and musk buying out twitter gets rid of them in mainstream i will be so happy with a sigh of relief. it disgusts me women have to live in fear of caring for their fellow women, their rights, kids in terms of all this but active pedos, groomers, racist men are basically ignored. women shouldn't be witch hunted for stating actual statistics compared to that.

No. 5064

>>5025
thank you so much, you're so kind haha! and yeah no not at all lmao, in fact i've seen many radfems in the community as young as 15 as well. but i really am and i couldn't be more grateful for that and everything else that happened even though it was terrible for the most part.

yeah :/ i tried and tried but her friends and her cousin ended up holding more weight so even then she wouldn't have truly listened to me. ironically though she said the same thing about me in her rant and that she's "not sticking around to help" lol. she's way too far gone in the cult unfortunately.

No. 5065

>>5026
i agree with everything you said, definitely. either way i hope this genuinely dies down and never comes back up again because i've seen so many end up severely hurt than i have. it's ridiculous. even doctors are scared to tell the actual truth and would rather chase the bag than have to deal with a lawsuit. but i'm really sorry about what happened with you and your ex, it breaks my heart to hear another butch got drawn into it. i hope she also peaks at some point if it isn't too late for her.

but yeah all i accept irl is other women. i don't give men the time nor much of my attention unless i have to (like a teacher at school, etc.). centering women and women only so far has been helping me so much in both making me feel safe and connected to all kinds of women (other woc, poor women, etc.), so much so i've genuinely thought about going to an all women's college, but i still have an aversion to the concept of college and debt unfortunately. i'm sure i'll figure it out though.

i do the same thing online as well and stay in terf/rf spaces only, which is arguably easier than irl. i'm in a discord server full of other women of all ages and it's awesome. i've never realized how much i needed to be around other women who both understood me and accepted each other's differences, and not people that have only ultimately hurt and used me.

but yeah i overall feel much more sane and grounded in reality than before lmao. that has done wonders for me and it continues to.

No. 5354

>>4326
I attended a mh group a few years ago, and one day we were introduced to the tranny. When I tell you I was instantly confused it's an understatement. Mini skirt, beard, fishnets, shitty eyeliner.. you know the type. I am fairly open minded and was a handmaiden back then so I was nice and befriended them. One day, a few of us were going for drinks and a bitch afterwards and he said could he come. I had no issues so sure, he was welcomed. Somewhere between leaving the pub and waiting for the bus, he pivoted the conversation onto his FETISH, of sticking things up his arse, constantly masturbating and posting this online. Being "nice (push over)" I engaged, made a suggestion about how he should try make money out of it if he's already doing it for free. He then proceeds to show me and my lesbian friend countless photos of his porn selfies. We're talking tail dildos, machines, all whilst wearing lingerie. Eventually we said explicitly "pack it in" after countless missed social cues bc of course he's like that. Still doesn't get it, making a near 2 hour bus journey home AWFUL. Said friend and I made up some excuse as to how we needed to go home just to avoid being around him.

The BEST part is that when we brought up how uncomfortable and how it was such an awful experience to feel trapped in this situation to the mh group the following week, a PSYCHOLOGIST said we were being dramatic, he didn't do anything wrong, it's not illegal and if we felt so strongly about it to go to the police, making a mockery of us for feeling a way about it at all.

That handmaiden of a psychologist peaked me more than the tranny did I think. Thanks for the thread, I've never been able to get this off my chest.

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Peaked even harder when I found out my pedo dad had transitioned. My best friend’s pornsick balding boyfriend thinks he’s trans. (While mooching off of her for the past ~2 years, she found out he hasn’t been saving money for them to move to a more “progressive” country where he can transition; instead he’s been blowing his paychecks on shit food and OF). She’s been venting bits and pieces to me about how terrible it’s been dealing with his “dysphoria” and I finally got her to open up more about it . I tried to give neutral commentary on some of the things she shared, but in a way that could get her to start thinking about how males transitioning are always for the coom vs females transitioning due to trauma, harassment, etc.



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No. 5384[Reply]

So I think the biggest problem with current radical feminism is that its kinda cringe and it attracts mostly cringy people who really should focus on being less cringy rather then on feminism

so first off aesthetics, a lot of current online radblr tries too borrow heavily from riotgrrl and feminist punk rock scene and the problem with that is that almost all of that scenes consisted of what we might call proto-libfems and now those women are currently promoting women like Hillary clinton and publicly supporting troons and nowadays the punk aesthetic in general is associated with baby zoomer industry plants

secondly changing the way we express male hatred, this isn't me saying "uwu don't be mean to men" rather anytime I see a radfem quote/song angrily going on how she hates men and she'll kill them, I almost die of the shreer cringe of it cause it comes across as a sixth grade nerd acting out against a high-school jock, I can't help but imagine men snickering when hearing this, knowing damm well that they could easily kill the physically weak female academic and most women with their bare hands in seconds, so it ultimately come across as pathetic Impotent rage so my solution is the way the redscarethots express male hatred, though using male supremacy rhetoric against them, "go die in war" "build a house like a real man" "real men don't spend time arguing with women" work way better then the ctingy impotent rage most radfems express

feel free to discuss more ideas to make radical feminism less cringe and improve on it
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No. 5388

>>5387
exactly, I thinking helping the material reality of women should always be the top priority, but to appeal to more women we need to remove the overall cringyness

No. 5389

I feel like a radical feminism suffers from either terminal facebook boomerism or unnecessarily aggressive zoomer sperging, there isn't a middle ground because that's where the majority of people fall into. Memes for example are a key factor in making a movement attractive and with radical feminism they are either straight out unfunny shit your mom would post or "KILL TRANNIES AND ABORT MALE FETUSES <3" level exhausting a-logging with no nuance. Neither is appealing to the masses. A lot of the radfem spaces fall victim to black and white thinking and border on relying on conservatism for allyship while I feel like a lot of the libfem leaning normie feminists can actually have a good, inspiring conversation with people despite me not agreeing with them. We live in a world where most women choose willingly to ignore the everyday sexism so they need to be woken up in bite-size chunks, not dumping the entire works of second wave unhinged polilezzies as entry level material. They only get intimidated and stray further away despite deep down being fully aware of the sex based oppression and intergenerational trauma they all have.

No. 5390

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>>5389
this reminds me of one of the worst upcoming trends I've noticed recently is all the edgy imageboard pickmes picking up "radfem" as a term just to piss off the wokies and troons. when obviously they don't even give a shit about even basic feminism but weirdly think it's some edgy queen shit label they can hang up on the mantle to epic troll everyone. Like picrel who spends her days posting conservatoid discourse, she's also anti abortion, anti feminism, extremely right wing, and just overall contrarian

No. 5398

>>5384
i think it should stay cringe to repel infiltrators and political hipsters.

No. 5455

>>5384
>my solution is the way the redscarethots
I agree there are a lot of cringe posts out there, but literally never go to Red Scare or scarethots for solutions to things kek



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