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>FUJOSHI (腐女子, "rotten girl"): a self-mockingly pejorative Japanese term for female fans of manga and novels that feature romantic relationships between men.
>Discuss yaoi and BL here, as well as series and games aimed at fujoshi like Hetalia, sports anime, and male idol anime. >Discussion of BL games here is totally OK but please do not cannibalize the otome game general.>Discussion of Male/Male ships outside of strictly BL series is allowed. >Feel free to ask for recommendations, but please specify what kind of material you're looking for (Genre, oneshot/series, doujinshi, SFW/NSFW etc).>Being reasonably critical of BL is welcomed but don't come here only to bait or excessively moralsperg about fujos or how much you hate BL as a genre. Take it to Twitter. >Be mindful of others and hide your spoilers. Use the spoiler image option and wrap your text inside spoiler tags.>Reminder to ignore the baiting males and trolls who come to provoke. Hetero and pedo shit is forbidden here. Just report their posts and ignore.>Be nice to each other , we fujos should stick together.
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I'm looking for recs. I want a manga with juicy art (hot men, no shota), sex scenes and a retarded plot. What's out there for me?
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Caste Heaven’s pretty fun for retarded BL manga
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Looking for recs with shota because they're cute, preferably spirit or yokai x human boy (I'm already well aware of hanako-kun)
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Any anons know or follow accounts similar to erinnnnnnnnao? I enjoy her social so much because she posts daily BL covers on her main IG, lifestyle like yoga, food and fashion on her second IG and lifestyle + BL on her twitter. I could only dream of owning a BL room like hers. Her socials:https://www.instagram.com/erinnnnnnnnao_mg/https://twitter.com/erinnnnnnnnao
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Ganbare Nakamura kun’s mangaka did some stuff like this, one with a historical horror theme (Gesshoku Kitan, which I actually really enjoyed despite it only being one volume) and a one shot with a Jianshi boy which was very cute (Aojiro Shohan).
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Gonna ruin my life and rewatch Naruto for <3 them <3
I love the Boruto designs but I've never seen it because I never finished Shippuden lmao
also I usually hate Vtubers and think they’re cringe, but Seto Kazuya is an extremely adorable zombie(?) boy.
I hope we get more spooky shotas in the future.
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she's hindu? huh?
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According to Megan Thee Stallion, Sasuke tops Naruto. I trust her.
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my turtle fujo verdict is that during teenage-hood naruto is most likely to top, being the "boke" raises his hornyness so he is the one most likely to push the romance. During adulthood I can see sasuke being more dominant and in the top role as he is edgier than ever and naruto just wants him back. But when they reach old geezer status I can see them switching constantly depending on their mood.
Megan Thee Stallion is comparing herself to Naruto in the lyrics, "I'ma make him eat me out while I'm watchin' anime (Wow, wow, anime), pussy like a Wild Fox, lookin' for a Sasuke (Yeah, yeah, ayy, yeah)", Megan Thee Stallion would definitely be a top if she was a man, therefore you are wrong and she is based and thinks Naruto tops. In this essay I will…
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>>298369>waiting for slow damage haters to be mad that towas the threadpic lol
Really hoping I didn’t cause infighting there whoops. >more light-hearted BL vns worth checking out?
I’m playing through Lemures 2am right now which doesn’t seem too dark comparatively? There’s a focus on death but there’s no H scenes and such.
You have to change your system to Japan and run it as windows 7 for it to run properly though (at least it’s free). https://hiragihoux.itch.io/lemures-blues-2-am
Yeah I was! It’s always nice to see people check out more obscure BL VNs (Japanese ones that is, western stuff is cringe) since mainstream fujos don’t care about visual novels. >>298375
Is it the eye pussy
>>298365>Megan Thee Stallion would definitely be a top if she was a man
kek that's too much for my poor heart.>>298343
I'm so damn jealous of her. I don't have an instagram so I can't see her posts individually, does she just post pictures of the BL she reads or does she also review them?
Is it me or things are looking kind of bleak for BL VNs? Just don't see any coming out anytime soon. There's only one I really liked recently and it looks as though it'll be the company's only VN ever. >>298372
I will regret asking probably but SD haters? What? It's such a middling yaoi VN - I would never replay it - that it's weird to think people particularly hate it. The threadpic is cute.
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>>298427>Just don't see any coming out anytime soon
Lykt and Slow damage came out in English not that long ago and Ooe is in development and should be out this year (at least in Japanese).
I’d argue the opposite if anything, for quite a while the market was barren as hell but now there’s a fair amount coming out.
for me, it was just boring. towa's such a dull uke (not cute at all, just some bulky skelly apathetic dude) and completely wasted on the tops + setting. it was also so slow kek. i got as far as him leaving that one dude's (?) apartment after they cut his arm or whatever then my interest totally petered out.
lkyt is much better. i do wish mc was a uke though. can't have everything
ah, you're right. Now that I think about it probably is just a me problem. I just haven't liked what has come from major studios recently. SD, Lkyt, UltraC, the weird doctor one from the Hadaka people (which I thought would at least be morbidly funny but it wasn't), etc. Ooe looks ok but not my type, either. I liked Tokyo Onmyoji, Hashihime, and Sorcerer's Choice.
I think maybe my tastes have gotten very narrow with age. >>298452
tbh, you made the right choice. the devs pretty much have route be the only real true route and I'm still bitter over it.
re: the game feeling slow, i see where you're coming from but i feel like most if not all of the n+c titles have the same pacing issues. seems less like a slow damage issue and more like a n+c issue imho
towa didn't do much for me either lmao, i'll be honest i spent most of the time wishing he'd actually eat something and wondering how the hell he didnt just keel over from his anachan diet of coffee and cigs (ill still take edgelord towa over a bland white bread protagonist like konoe from lamento any day though kek)>>298456
i liked reis route tbf. rei in general deserved better. but yeah, the true route definitely feels like it was made to be like, the main takeaway from the game. i can imagine the handful of people that actually liked madarame we're piiisssssed about the last route
I think a lot of the game definitely does rely on how you feel about Towa, I personally loved him so slow damage became my favorite VN of all time (not just BL) but I get why he might be irritating to a lot of people.>lkyt is much better. i do wish mc was a uke though.
Ok now I’m actually surprised, I haven’t played lkyt yet but I 100% thought the protagonist was an uke.
Well, when I say don't like, I didn't dislike them aside from Patient S Remedy where I wasn't even able to finish even half of it and I got to a bad end. UC was entertaining for a while though it got super…abstract in a way that I found hard to follow–I preferred how Hashishime's weirdness was a slow burn. Also I hated the gender stuff in the 2nd route even though I adore Shiro.
I didn't like the 1st couple at all. Plus, having the couples pre-ordained was probably made it less exciting to me. It's great for people that want to experience an epic, experimental, fixed story, you're right, but wasn't for me. OH! The sex was also all awkward quickies to me and each time I was left confused and weirdly unfulfilled. Maybe I'd have a more favorable opinion of it if I played the 3rd route/couple?>>298459
Based fellow Rei enjoyer. I wished his route was better but he's the only character besides Eiji I really liked and at least he has a lot of sweet moments.
lots of Slow Damage opinions, so I'd thought I'd share mine.
The game is mid at the very best for me, which is a real shame, because I've loved every other N+C title out there. It's not that I hate Towa, I just find him very uninspiring. I've played 3 routes and started the last route around a month ago, and just haven't gotten round to finishing the game (mainly bc Zelda has been distracting me). I see ppl across reddit/twitter/Tumblr say the last route is the best and all, but I feel like 0 motivation to actually finish it, which is super weird for me bc I always fixate on BL games when I start one and don't do much else entertainment-wise if I'm playing one.
I thought Murase was okay. I liked Rei, but didn't like the direction his route went in. Thought Madarame's route was hot garbage. Fujieda's route seems okay so far. Haven't done enough to have an opinion.
what do you girls think? Should I push through, or drop the game and start Lykt? I think I'll like it because I really liked No Thank You, so if its the same vibes, I'd be having more of a fun time there.(lolcow.farm/info)
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Thanks for the rec anon! I've been loving Seto for a long time too, his design is so cute and striking
Honestly, I would say to just drop it. Fujieda’s route is the best one only because it has relevant plot, but imo it wasn’t that much more interesting and if you played the rest it’s pretty easy to predict what’s going on. I also just found Fujieda to be super boring and the whole ending with him and Towa together felt kinda forced.
I still like Slow Damage, I don’t have incredibly high expectations for BLVNs just by the nature of the thing, but for all the hype I saw about Fujieda it seemed kinda lame in the end. The prostate hitting
sex scene was A+ though
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anyone have good fanfic recs for them? preferably in character and not too long. they are one of the most written about ships on ao3 in general but 99% of them are trash, it feels like the fandom is stuck in 2007 some fics still have ‘yaoi warnings’ ffs.
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nta but I almost forgot about NTY. I don't find it hot at all even if everything is done technically very well and it's probably perfect for people with a taste for fucked up stuff in a more sterile, fruity aesthetic. None of the characters are my type. It has such a chaotic vibe with the main character being a very agentic mega-perv and from what I read it wasn't boring, it's just clearly written by a man.
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christ i had no thank you on my to play list, i didn't realise the guys were so ugly
honestly i know people hate on overly flowery shoujo art styles in BL vns but i'll take the pretty boys in titles like lucky dog or shingakkou over some generic looking dude who looks like he doesnt wash his asscrack any dayspeaking of lucky dog, we're never getting that english translation huh
>>298682>honestly i know people hate on overly flowery shoujo art styles in BL vns but i'll take the pretty boys in titles like lucky dog or shingakkou over some generic looking dude who looks like he doesnt wash his asscrack any day
I think a lot of it just comes from ‘not like other fujos’, those types who brag about only being into bara as if it somehow makes them superior and isn’t just a personal preference like everyone else has (even more annoying though if they don’t actually like it and just want to be contrarian)
The strange thing is that the no thank you characters were drawn by a woman, but she also did the art for euphoria and maggot baits so I think that speaks for itself.
But yeah I’ll take flowery over realistic looking moids.
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Yeah, the last time I read fics for them was way too long ago. I second wanting recs.
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Not the exact same, but I thought of him.
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>>298682>we're never getting that english translation huh
Mangagamer tweeted that the translation is almost complete a few days ago, there's still hope nona.
i'd agree with you but lucky dog is honestly a good game and im happy it's getting a translation, even though they dragged their feet on it for years and years.
also i think gian is probably my favourite BL visual novel protagonist, out of the handful of vns ive played. would be cool to see some people play it & share there thoughts here
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Nsfw 3x3 of ships i like, was hesitant about posting it here but fuck it>>298777
Me, i do.(ban evading)
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I retract everything I said about Rance
, I respect you now.
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based towa thread pic nonnie
I was gonna ask if anyone knew any sites I could download SlowDamage from besides justusa because it doesn't accept my card for some reason
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>>299031>Adachi belongs to Dojima anyway>Implying Dojima doesn’t belong to Yu
He’s an uncle fucker
source of the bottom right one?>>299018
i've played this game already
bumping this request also >>298549
Correct. Dojima x Adachi is superior is every single way.
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big fan of this blackpilled king
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there's a liberal omegaist too omg
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my last post about this but i can't believe i ever thought this author was a scrote kek. anyone know of abo manga in which the ukes are indeed biologically smaller/more feminine than the semes btw. that's a plot point here but it's more of a background thing
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I love where this manga is going. I wish it were easier to tell people to read Asada’s manga, but the content is always a little too suggestive for anyone that doesn’t read BL.
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Damn I should catch up with Owari no seraph since apparently it got even gayer
Like, Yuu literally ditches everyone else to be with Mika and rejects the feelings of the female love interest because he only loves Mika and openly admits that he considered suicide everyday that he thought Mika was dead.
I’m surprised they’re letting the two mains be gay in a shounen manga honestly.
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>>300167>I feel feminist commentary is par for the course with this subgenre
recommend some >>300157>Literally any ABO manga, nona
you too, give me recommendations
morbid curiosity, did omegaverse actually go mainstream? everything I know about it I know from Omega Vampire
which I am deeply ashamed of.
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I think most people are aware of that, it’s just the contents of this manga are so centered on feminist topics smashing the…alphatriarchy?
it probably not be allowed to exist if it were in anything but a BL magazine
I wouldn't use race as an example, but you are correct that both men and women are both people but even in a perfect egalitarian world we will have vastly different experiences, like no man will ever understand childbirth or prospect of an abortion, they will never experience what it's like to be slightly smaller then half the population
It doesn't make men better or women worse but It makes us both distinct in our own special ways.
(NTA)>not wanting to draw or see women experiencing horribly depressing discrimination means you hate women
What's the logic here? Lesbianism? Really the endgame is to draw men having sex, the feminist ideology is not the main course. Why do
you need it to be women so badly? You've acknowledged many BL characters already act like women, and are of course written by women.
>>300271>the feminist ideology is not the main course
It quite literally is, in this case. You can read my other posts, I’m not criticizing people who enjoy omegaverse as a fetishism thing (although I can’t really get into it, I don’t find mpreg hot). I’m criticizing people who say reading feminist critique is “boring” when it’s about women and only find it engaging when it’s men telling the story. If you just care about the sex why do you need the politics in the first place? >inb4 It’s not that deep!!!
The original post I responded to was saying they didn’t understand why more people didn’t enjoy ABO explicitly for the feminist ideology, all I’m saying is that if I want to read feminist critique I’m going to read it in stories about women. I read BL to see men be pathetic and get fucked
Similar to what the other nonas said, it makes it easier to digest because it's not as real while still drawing from real experience. Like how watching a documentary about one thing can be depressing but reading a fictionalized version lets you see it from different angles with a degree of separation because no one is actually getting hurt. Reading a history book vs reading Game of Thrones. I'm not averse to media with women (I probably have the largest amount of crossover with the gl/yuri threads here than anyone else in this thread) but reading media centering women and female only experiences will always, without fail, strike closer to home for me and brings up deeper and more complicated emotions. BL, while it does bring out strong emotions, has that degree of separation because I'm not a gay male and neither is the author (usually). Omegaverse is a way to channel the author's commentary and experiences while still letting both of us have that degree of separation. Maybe it is just that the author has a pregnancy fetish, but they also don't like seeing women being fetishistically submissive to men; why not just use a fictionalized version with what they are comfortable seeing? Of course, no one is obligated to like it, and to many authors it is just a fetish piece, but my favorite works of the genre always delve into the deeper aspects of the worldbuilding and the unique views of each author.>>300190
Admittedly, most of my all time favs with the most complex commentary are fanfics and I don't want to expose my niche fandoms, so I'll list the handful of manga I like. Not all of these focus on feminist parallels but rather have interesting worldbuilding, in my personal opinion.>Megumi to Tsugumi (I have rec'd this in like 3 fucking threads just go read it already)>Kimi to Unmei ni Tsuite no Hanashi ga Shitai >Shima-Chan Chi no Tsugai Jijou>Kouguu no Omega>Meppou Yatara to Yowaki ni Kiss
Also want to ask if anyone remembers the name of this manga of an omega teenage boy who becomes suicidal after presenting as an omega and either getting raped or nearly getting raped, it was several years ago and I don't remember how it ended but it stuck with me, I think I stopped in the middle because it was so depressing but I want to finish it..
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She just started writing a series with a female lead, only one chapter so far but it seems like all the main characters are women.https://www.mangaupdates.com/series/56oshuw/madara-moyou-no-yoihttps://urasunday.com/title/2314
…and? No one is trying to change that fact or claim that men totally give birth too. It's a made-up universe with made-up sexes that's most likely used to experience and analyze issues with a degree of separation. I don't like omegaverse either but you're making it sound like girls into it are trying to erase women or something when it's just entertainment with some deeper messages here and there.>>300285
Oh that's nice. I hope she doesn't write BLs just because it makes her popular, because sometimes it really feels like she's very into women and wants to write GL instead (and drop the BL like many other authors do once they get more established).
A trauma victim
and his abuser.
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>>300249>Comparing George Orwell to omegaverse BL manga
Typical day on Lolcow.farm
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if gay male lurkers here feel welcome, then i have picrel for them
>Come back to the thread to read up on what I've missed>It's another "omegaverse is a misogynist allegory" episode once again
At this point I'm almost certain that it's Paki-chan or some equally retarded troll baiting because the argument goes in circles for ages and they refuse on a principle to understand the concept of "they're not women and that's the entire point" and keeps conflating them with FTMs and their self-insert breeding fetish and bringing up "w-why not just read things with female characters instead my fellow fujos?!" like a broken record. Nobody is this stupid or dense, it's entirely bad faith acting by now. Nonnas need to stop biting the bait. >>300157
NTA but IME all ABO manga has painfully basic as fuck bottoms that look like generic brown haired schoolboys/college students with no personality, not strikingly beautiful and effeminate tamekou bottoms like anon here >>300190
This thread has a handful of topics that will derail it for days on end because anons can't just scroll past and ignore anything they dislike. I can't stand all the rape and abuse posted but I'm not going to argue with the people who post it because it's none of my business.
Idk if it's people from the anti-fujo threads coming in to purposefully derail or keep the arguments going but I wish everyone would just drop it when it's obvious no one's going to change their mind. It's yaoi it's not that deep just post more art.
Yeah but it would be Animal Farm where Napoleon and Snowball are in a tense love/hate toxic
relationship and it kinda loses sight of its point and its ending is much more unsatisfying.
Your argument would be valid
if it would just be about not liking ABO because I find it cringe and lame too, but it's always garbage faux concern like "b-but it's ackshually, like, super misogynistic and stuff and you're an aiden egg with a pregnancy fetish (btw totally not screenshotting this for the antifujo thread)" and even legitimate discussion about the assumed ethics of ABO is impossible because you stick your fingers in your ears when people make an honest attempt at explaining the appeal and block all conversation. It's shit, transparent bait and anons need to grow wise to it.
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Also you could tell the anime staff REALLY wanted them to get together
I just read this, I love this character. The MC may be trash but him getting a hysterectomy in reaction to being an omega was wild as well.
I hope it continues being based because it'll hopefully open the eyes of some readers who hadn't previously thought this deeply about feminist topics. As sad as it is, many women simply choose not to face reality or easily swallow up validation for their self-subjugation. Maybe feminist concepts arriving in such a package will get a foot in the door of their minds.
Honestly… no. The plot is convoluted, and all the characters (aside from Mika and some of the vampires I guess) act really fucking stupid. It's actually annoying to read if you're trying to take the story seriously. It's good at the start (by good I mean the Mikayuu moments and tension), then it becomes an utter clusterfuck in the middle, and only in the recent chapters (I'm talking like the latest 20 chapters) does Mikayuu actually develop. The only reason I still check in on this manga once in a while is because I used to be obsessed with Mikayuu back in middle school kek.
But if you are really here just for Mikayuu moments, yes Mika is absolutely obsessed with Yuu and is the only character who doesn't get any flack from the fandom. His actions and goals make sense in terms of what we know of him (everything he does is for Yuu's sake). Meanwhile, you'll find yourself scratching your head trying to understand the other characters' motivations because it keeps flip flopping and doing plot twists and turns.
Yuu is just… infuriating. But in the later chapters I think I've actually come to find him more tolerable like the other nona said. It was mostly Mika pining after Yuu and throwing everything away for Yuu's sake, but now Yuu is doing the same in return for Mika and choosing him over the world. I was actually shocked the manga decided to go this route, but it feels rewarding to finally see Yuu pining obsessively for Mika (to an unhealthy level). The sad thing is, this ship could actually be really great if only the whole vampire-seraph plot didn't drag it down so heavily.
As the other anon said, the plot of the story is convoluted and shonen-tier with a bunch of lame twists and gotcha moments. The only good characters are Mika, the villain and some other secondary vampires. It's gotten better in the latest chapters where Yuu reciprocates Mika a bit but during the whole story he's your typical dumb shonen protagonist yelling friendship and vengeance while Mika is the more serious and better written counterpart. I know it's good to dream but I don't think they'll be a canon couple by the end, most likely it'll turn out that they're parts of the same being reincarnated separately and more akin to brothers/twins/literally a split person
The anime is actually entertaining and very well made so I recommend you check that out and see if you like the characters.
I liked the show a lot but Mika and Yuu were too bland for me.
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Thanks nonnies! Honestly them potentially being the same person split/twins
sounds like something I can absolutely get behind. Stupid plot twist shounen usually don’t dissuade me from reading so long as it’s sufficiently fujobaity/otherwise fun, and I don’t really expect anything canon. I’ll give it a read and see!>>300790
Boys of the Dead? Or was this the BL that got you interested in the setting? It feels too obvious somehow, kek
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I’m interested in checking out date fate extra when the remake comes out in English (hopefully that’ll happen…) despite thinking the original VN (which I did read) was pretty shitty.
With that being said though I’m surprised Gilgamesh usually bottoms for the male protagonist though he gets shipped with the female one way more, kinda makes me wonder if fate is a franchise more waifufags and yumejos are into over fujos?
Only real gay ships I know of is the mentioned male protag x Gil (less popular than the female counterpart), Lancer and Archer (I don’t get it honestly, they don’t really have any chemistry) and Waver x Iskandar (haven’t seen fate zero, just seen a lot of small hamster big banana fanart for them).
Is there any ships I missed?
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Enkidu/Gil, Kirei/Gil, Arjuna/Karna, and Sherlock/Moriarty are also all big ones. Enkidu/Gil is probably the Gil ship I see modt frequently nowadays (and I'd consider it the most canonical), although Kirei/Gil used to be the big one.
Also, almost missed Romani/Merlin, which is also pretty popular. I see quite a bit of shipping between the Knights of the Round Table, too.
Honestly, I haven't seen much ship art of male Hakuno/Gilgamesh. But if you see more of female Hakuno in general, it's because she's just pretty popular. The player character x Gilgamesh ship that I see most often has to be Gudao/Casgil, though.
Picrel is art drawn by Takarai Rihito of Ten Count fame that's actually in FGO as a craft essence
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All I know about Enkidu is that he’s clay that probably doesn’t have a dick, barely counts as BL if I’m being honest.
I actually did see a lot of the male FGO protagonist with Gil (more than with the female one) and he was bottoming in most of it despite them both being silent protagonists? Kinda makes me curious why they’re basically reversed. I guess for extra you could make the argument it’s because the female protag is a lot cuter and better designed than the male one, but I think the girl is still cuter in FGO too….>Sherlock/Moriarty
I was not aware they had fate counterparts, please show them to me because that sounds hilarious
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I'd really recommend reading Fate/strange Fake to Gil fans, by the way. It was written by the Durarara and Baccano writer, Narita Ryohgo, and he really went full in on Gilgamesh and Enkidu as soulmates.
It'll be getting an anime next month. Any nonnas who miss the DRRR and Baccano days of shipping dudes who beat the absolute shit out of each other should enjoy it, too.
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Nah, Enkidu/Gil usually gets played as either a) normal BL where they both of dicks or b) Enkidu still has a dick but they (fanartists and fanfic writers) use the clay aspect to do some borderline teratophilia shit with it.
Picrel is Moriarty and Sherlock, Moriarty is the old guy.
Now that I'm thinking about old man BL in Fate, Mozart/Salieri is also potently gay stuff. The dudes are ugly as sin in the actual games, but fanartists go wild with their imaginations. I'll include art in a reply.
I’ll just stick to Gil/Gudao for now since I don’t really like long hair bottoms that much (tops sure though)>Picrel is Moriarty and Sherlock, Moriarty is the old guy.
I was honestly expecting something a bit more crazy design wise.
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I'd recommend looking them up. The discrepancy between their in-game appearances and the fanart they get is genuinely delusional but I kind of love it. Makes sense though because the tortured BL they have going on narratively is some really good shit.
Re: The Gilgamesh stuff, I'm not really sure why top/bottom dynamics work out that way. I just know that in the case of Casgil, I mostly see him bottom because it's one of Gil's "tamest" (tame by his standards, I guess) iterations. He bottoms a lot (~75% of the time) with Kirei and Enkidu too so I think it might be a situation where fans just like seeing him put in his place by anybody who can actually do it.
Archer/Lancer (Emiya/Cu) is a really popular ship too, it used to dominate all Fate spaces for the longest time. Sakamoto Ryouma/Okada Izou and Gilgamesh/Ozymandias have plenty of fans too. >>300935>All I know about Enkidu is that he’s clay that probably doesn’t have a dick, barely counts as BL if I’m being honest.
NTA but this is literally the most ridiculous "totally no homo" cope scrote fans desperately hold on to because they can't accept their chad bro Gilgamesh being gay and the "actually Enkidu uses they/them pronouns" crap only exists in the English localization of Fate/Grand order, not in any of the original scripts. According to the original legend of Gilgamesh he and Enkidu were both men and in Strange Fake Enkidu is described to have a male body but a beautiful, feminine face because he copied it out of appreciation from a shrine maiden who saved his life in the past iirc.
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Right? I hate the forced they/them-ing of Enkidu by fans who don't even prescribe to the original text. The clay excuse is so stupid, too, I don't see why clay can't be male if these troons believe a man can be a woman.
God, I can't believe that I forgot Ozy/Gil… The most obnoxious ship in the best way. It's some great shit.>>300939
This art is more depictive of their actual designs. Moriarty also has a young version, but IDW keep shitting up the thread with my Fate picspam.>>300943
Wasn't part of the reason he's so obsessed with Saber because she reminds him of Enkidu, too? Dude is so gay that he seeks out Enkidu in every iteration and could literally sense Enkidu's summoning when it happened in strange Fake with exultant delight.
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>>300946>Dude is so gay that he seeks out Enkidu in every iteration and could literally sense Enkidu's summoning when it happened in strange Fake with exultant delight.
And don't forget that the entire reason why Enkidu died in the past was because Ishtar was so fucking jealous over Gilgamesh rather choosing him and repeatedly rejecting her that she wanted to kill the competition. Their relationship is spelled out so many times and Gilgamesh never shows any signs of genuine interest in women since the obsession he had with Saber was more akin to seeing a shiny new toy too.
i agree with you there. i was even thinking about nu:ca when i was typing my original post– i havent played it but it popped up in my mind as a bl game with potentially a bit more variety in characters.
n+c vns over their various iterations have had some really fun LIs – clear from dmmd, that iguana guy from sweet pool, etc etc. but yes the routes are usually pretty limited in their games. dmmd kind of stands out to me as one of their only games with decent route variety (slow damage didnt have much variety imo, granted i only enjoyed 2 routes out of 4 lol)also i'm an artfag and sometimes i get the urge to draw up some pretty boy character designs for an imaginary BL or otome type game, just so i can indulge myself a little
I mean if you say "tasteless" that is a fighting word, kek.
also I installed tokyo summoner a while back and I find it cute but I find it difficult to find most of the characters attractive.
honestly anon you choose the ONE imageboard that isn't okay w furryshit, literally you could post furry bara to 4ch and they'd be okay with it.
have fun with your moid ass taste
Then talk about it, no need to sart stuff. I support you nonnie
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Reminds me of this shit>straight woman yaoi just looks like an outdated yaoi hands manga from the 90s even though everything else looks modern>lesbian yaoi just looks like a lot of modern BL art styles, nothing really lesbian specifically about it (women generally don’t let their coom habits effect their art like moids granted, so there’s less of a difference of art between straight, bi and lesbian women). >gay men yaoi is just regular barashit
It’s not as bad as that other one where even the bara garbage they wanted to be the ‘good one’ looks poorly drawn, but it’s still pretty clearly TIFs being insecure as usual.
at this point they have to be delusional. gay men like bara for a reason, they are moids after all therefore they have moid fetishes and like hairy chests, pot bellies and smelly armpits. the same way straight moids like massive melon tits, ahegao and art with fucked up anatomy. but this is something the average woman finds disgusting! there are rare cases where bara can look okay, but pic related is gross imo. i have nothing against women who like bara, but it's a fact that for most of us is a turn off and something we have to be brainwashed to like
everyone having different tastes is whatever, the problem arises when people mock and make fun of female interests and put male interests on a pedestal. twinks are bad because women love them and moids hate them. bara is good because moids love it
what the hell is lesbian yaoi? looks like your regular enby self insert character to me idk.
also reminds me of the fact that zoomers & aiders get up in arms if you call BL a female-oriented medium and start screeching about how they're not women actually & that BL is totally valid
queer representation kek
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I’m gonna guess they were going for the Nagata Kabi’s artstyle?
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Anon I will support you. They can't call you a zoophile for this when they're still posting shota and incest. Who's your favorite artist? Mine is BKMita.
Not even a furfag, I just like buff men in my yaoi. All male x male is valid
, ignore it if you don't like it. Bara is one of the most tame things to bring up in this thread considering what else has been posted.
Not even a furfag, I just like buff men in my yaoi. All male x male is valid
, ignore it if you don't like it. Bara is one of the most tame things to bring up in this thread considering what else has been posted.
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I actually read a French Bowser x Dedede
fanfic yesterday and I've been thinking about it non-stop so I get what you mean, in some instances it can be really cute.
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>people are still into furries in 2023
Technology is the way of the future, furries are on par with dogs who can’t control their bowels
>>301227>All male x male is valid
it isn't though. all male x male made by women is valid
regardless of degeneracy, but the only women making furry bara are tifs larping as real gay men.
I don't only seek bara made by men. Also, once again, not a furfag. If anyone has any artists who are women that draw muscular men, then please do recommend them. But if I have to consume content made by men because they are afraid of any man who weighs more than 100 lbs then so be it>>301240
Bowser and Dedede are so cute, but I can't see them in any sexual way. If only Bowser ships weren't just moid pandering peaches porn or luigi then I would be so happy>>301248
Robots are leagues better than furries. I used to follow this old Japanese artist who drew a bunch of Rodimus nsfw but I've lost all of their art.
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>>301257>But if I have to consume content made by men because they are afraid of any man who weighs more than 100 lbs then so be it
Idk seems like a cope.
I hate the ‘I’m not like other fujos! I like bara!’ meme, as if there isn’t plenty of choices with more muscular men that isn’t drawn by moids or TIFs.>Bowser and Dedede are so cute
I don’t buy that you’re not a furry.
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bowser has a son he loves dearly, he's a great parent. do NOT make him be a weird fat gay dad or any other kind of sex thing, sickos. he's a TURTLE.
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Cope and move on.
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Starting to think you might be right. The implication that posting degenerate content made by women is on the same level as degenerate content made by or made to emulate that of fags is weird. Either a faghag or a male looking to make us uncomfortable.
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Thank you nona, you're the only one here who isn't a schizo
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farmers sometimes can't comprehend anyone liking anything but manwha hunks or slender bishonen unfortunately. if it's too masc or too femme then you're a moid that said i hate bara too kek.
NTA but that anon pretty clearly meant that the fact that you can't even find any female bara artists is proof of how bara is a very male-specific subject matter and mostly enjoyed by a male demography. I'm sure there are women who have bara as their niche and actually enjoy it instead of just as a "maybe I'll be seen as a true and honest gay man if I pretend to like this" thing but chances still are high for a barafag to be male.
But good god being a furry or into furries should be a bannable offense. Anyone who likes bara furry art and is degenerate enough to admit it should get their Lolcow access revoked immediately, I'm starting to tinfoil that the banning of shota made the male lurkers go to their next signature fetish.
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People are going to think you mean art for moids when you use the term bara. Just say you're looking for BL with muscular men to avoid confusion.
You're right, I probably should've said yaoi with muscular men, but I really like the typical bara art style. Typical yaoi and bl bodies don't get close enough to the style for me. Everytime they do they have this really strange obsession with drawing their pecs and nippers incredibly exaggerated to a point it's silly.>>301323
There's only one furry itt, but there should be nothing wrong eith bara art
if you're looking for deep BL featuring obese sasquatches you won't find it because it's a fetish genre for real gay men. one with about as much appeal to normal fujos as futa, not even normal traps. if it's out there it's made by a ftm doing a terrible job of hiding her female socialization.
if it's porn you're looking for, head over to 4chan's /y/ cuz again bara has as much appeal to normal fujos as futa. a bunch of us are already fed up with having our spaces infiltrated by eye assaulting bara furry art. if you want to enjoy coomer moid porn you have to learn to enjoy being around coomer moids. have some courteousy.
>>301344>strange obsession with drawing their pecs and nippers incredibly exaggerated to a point it's silly
Sure i've seen some horrible boob pecs in BL but bara is WAY worse about this. Bara art almost always looks super exaggerated. Not to sound rude but i'm not sure why'd you go to a fujoshi thread to ask for bara recommendations, head over to /y/ instead like >>301353
I never even came here looking for recommendations. I just got told off because anons like >>301265
suggested seeking alternatives made by women. This conversation only started because a different anon posted >>301117
, and I told them they're not the only one.
Again, if you don't like it, ignore it. There's been worse posted.
Any manga by Sakira I guess?
She's a woman and draws muscular men that aren't hideous, at least to my non-barafag eyes
Any manga by Sakira I guess?
She's a woman and draws muscular men that aren't hideous, at least to my non-barafag eyes
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If you retards knew how to actually read, you'd know I wasn't picking a fight. You faggots just keep responding adding nothing new of substance because you are allergic to critical thinking. I'm a fujo so I will stay in the fujo containment thread, seethe and cope>>301439>>301438
I tried to look them up and I can't tell if this is them or not. The faces remind me of something old, but thank you for the recommendation I'll check them out nona!(infighting)
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>>301443>retards>faggots>seethe cope>fujo "containment" thread>"I'm a fujo" translation: spoonfeed me the widely available, grotesque gay porn I seek for I am just too busy with my non contributional shitflinging to do it on my own>has never heard of JJBA bl
All very interesting!(infighting)
Do you even actually like bara? If you’re looking for stuff like Sakira’s art, I wouldn’t even consider that bara/geicomi. If you’re just looking for muscular bishounen you should really specify it, there’s plenty to rec.
No one here can help you with furshit, it’s not BL and this is the wrong thread to be asking about it. (That applies to bara/geicomi too, btw)
that was a retard moment; I had been reading through a few other studios and only had glanced at NC. I realized the mistake after posting. it was a dumb point, the nonny
I replied to worded it way better. I just have known a few not ftm women that did draw very muscular men and it's weird seeing the "it's impossible for a woman to like this stuff" being repeated here. however it shouldn't be posted itt, let alone without being spoilered anyway. I'd suggest a containment thread for more unconventional gay stuff like bara and furries but people would probably dislike the idea.
I know that nona>>301466
I like both bara(I know the face style you're talking about that's same-facey, and I agree, but I prefer that over the typical triangle chin boys) and regular muscular men, but you're right; the word bara does seem to get people angry here. It should be specified for future threads for no barashit or stuff made by men if it will cause long insights.
I've not read anything from them before, but I've seen both of their art. I think CTK's art is more appealing though
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There are women who draw muscular man yaoi, they're just not the most common kind of BL artist so you have to dig a little deeper to find them. Once you start to come across a few of them, though, it'll get much easier to find the rest.
But for fuck's sake, I'm so sick of people mixing up "bara" and "muscular". Bara is not a synonym for that, and it doesn't even have to involve muscular men (the second most common body type in bara is obese). Fuck retards on social media who started to use that specific term to refer to muscular guys in general. Probably the main culprit was the "bara tiddies" meme.
That being said, check out Maeba (pic related): https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/92305
Really, the average female JoJo/Golden Kamuy fanartist is probably gonna draw muscles. Get into Japanese media that has attractive muscular males and a huge fandom, and you'll find plenty of fujo artists who make the kind of BL you want.
Aidens will literally shit themselves if someone uses female pronouns for female people like themselves and will never have the guts to correct someone in real life, that's why they turn into little cringy cyberbullies kek
Just ignore them anon, they're insecure little girls who hate themselves (and all other women).
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this is the pairing that got me bullied btw. i was apparently "self-inserting into and feminizing" venti too much i barely even care for genshit so it was extra silly>>301498
i'm not a theybe, i'm just tired of hypocrisy and want to enjoy my fujo content in peace. >>301487>>301494
it's less me feeling bad about what they're saying, and more irritation at fujoshi thinking they're any better than me because of their pronouns (which make them not fujoshi, actually, they are based genderflux gay men.) i long for the days when bl spaces online were full of all sorts of female craziness and don't like don't read
I knew you were going to be that annoying sperg from the genshit thread and other game that has a general only you use as soon as I read >>301486
but didn't say anything kek. You blog about getting bullied on twitter so often there's no way it isn't for something more than you having bad taste and not being a genderspecial.
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How many volumes are in printed KS (english, Seven Seas)? Usually printed webtoons have way too many volumes, maybe japanese version also is not fully published yet? Can somenonny guess from the cover art?
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I'm so jealous of male otaku that all their dumb fetish shit gets rips of the official releases and posted on nyaa but seemingly barely any BL and yaoi official releases gets ripped from kindle…
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no clue if it's in character but same. this artist in particular really turned me onto small tops (i subbed to their paetron for a month just to get at their art)>>301547
but i've never been in the genshit thread…just proves that this is happening to multiple women kek
it looks like she deleted a lot of her shit lately due to anti drama :(
That's exactly what anti drama is. People getting mad at others for their ships or content they make.>>301595
I'm the shizo you're referring to dumbass. I'm not that anon. Kys(alogging)
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>has secondary characters that directly parallel the main couple
>claims she never intended their relationship to be romantic
What did she mean by this?
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Who’s going to this BL cafe collab with me so I can get the themed coasters
It is in Tokyo! >https://emocafe.jp/collaboration/blibrary-3/
The goods and menu haven’t been announced yet though. I’ll see you there nona
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Most iconic homo CGs in gaming?
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watching turn a gundam right and these two are already piquing my fujosense. i hope there's a lot of bait
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>>302259>Most iconic homo CGs in gaming?
You posted it. I think picrel moment is pretty legendary for the shock/meme value, I knew about it before I ever played the game.
Runner up is nazi Shiki and Akira in Togainu, I still haven't played that game but have known that CG for years.
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Same anon, I just checked the emo cafe twitter account to check what it's like usually. The food doesn't look all that amazing but they almost only do collabs with BL manga. Turns out they did a collab with Oni to Tengoku in December and now I wish I could travel to the past so I could go there and buy merchs like the stupid consoomer I am. Here's the twitter for the anons who are or will be in Japan: https://twitter.com/emocafe_collabo
I already know most games are made by a lot of people so I don't understand your point? I was just temporarily shocked because I recently learned how many are penned by men; i.e., >>302365
or much of Parade's stuff which…I probably should have guessed to begin with considering how bizarre they get.
i know its hadaka and we shouldn't expect anything from a game like that but komine genuinely did deserve better.
also id say a lot of the ichinose cgs are…. memorable, to say the least >>302397
sweet pools cgs are so nice looking for a game with such a weird and shocking subject matter, honestly
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This homo incest gif makes me blush so hard
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>>302512>id say a lot of the ichinose cgs are…. memorable, to say the least
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what types of age gaps do you like, if you're into age gaps? personally obsessed with dumbass in their early twenties/late teens x someone a bit accomplished in their thirties
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Absolutely 100% this. Especially if the older one is more tentative about romance with someone younger but the younger one is SUPER into the fact that the other person is older.
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i can't kyaa to this
hadaka is confusing bc the scrote behind it decided to sprinkle in female sex options, but also every single hardcore kink you can think up with all the male characters. in the same vein, the game sprinkles in fujo moments e.g a lot of the 'bad' route ends which amount to tomoaki living happily ever after with the LI, but its clearly not written for fujos either unless they're particularly fucked in the head and like disgusting shit yaoimaster comes to mind kek
. even then the game actively makes fun of you for wanting anything actually sweet or romantic.
so it's like this weird no man's land between geikomi, BL and your average hardcore eroge
I’m always a sucker for a teenager being a bottom to someone older than them and then later in life they reunite and the younger one ends up topping. The role reversal/shift in power dynamic is too good.
I also just like younger/cuter characters topping older men too, in general.
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wish i could kick it with asada. she seems cool.>>303440
i actually enjoy her style. was more or less joking in my post, mamiya's autism does make me 'kyaa' sometimes.
NTA but I always thought Hadaka Shitsuji is like a bishoujo nukige but with males instead. Very male indeed. Still liked it>>303510>hadaka is confusing bc the scrote behind it decided to sprinkle in female sex options
Do you mean those scenes where the MC's college girlfriend is included in threesomes with the guys?
yep. i remember being confused at the weirdly sexualised way her sprite was drawn when i first saw her at the beginning of the game (considering its meant to be a BL game) – lo and behold you can have threesomes with her and all the LIs, and iirc she even has her own route too (bad end i think, to be fair, like most of the ends are)
i think youre correct in calling it a bishoujo nukige lol, i dont think such a blatantly coomer game should be lumped it with other popular BL games & yet people are quick to cite it when recommending BL games to others so idk
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I know it’s not BL, but the next chapter of Yoi will be on Urasunday tomorrow!
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I wanna smack his stupid bald head
her official response is that it's not realistic to have so many gay characters in the same story
but the actual truth is that mxtx tends to be hyperfocused on one couple and is afraid of the "second couple is more popular than the first one" phenomen which happens to a lot of BL series. in her first novel scum villain there is another canon couple besides bingqiu and a character who has a one-sided crush on the protag. what happened is that people were discussing a lot the other pairings and she didn't like it. she hates it when people ignore her main couple so since then she wrote her stories in such a way where a love triangle is impossible (so no more liu qinqge pining) and there could be no popularity competiton with the 2nd couple. however because she's a fujo she still has a tendency to write strong male-male bonds such as the pairing you posted, beefleaf and many others, she just doesn't make them canon or focus too much on them to take away the attention from her main leads
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Hi nonnas I'm not a fujo but I'm here to ask a question. Recently I've been seeing the ship WangXian absolutely everywhere! Why are they so popular? If any nonnies here ship them why do you ship them?
I'm not familiar with them or their source material at all, just wanna know why they're so loved.
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I actually just finished reading the novels and watching the live action version in the past month and became yet another victim
of falling in love with these two so I'll explain it with my current brainrot lol.
I think they are both great characters individually, they both have strong personalities both by nature and by being products of their environment, and when you mix them together it's satisfying and beautiful to see how they either clash or are alike. They also have a lot of tropes that are popular that apply to them: childhood enemies(?) to friends to lovers, repressed stuck-up guy falling for the bad boy, "even if the world turns against you, I never will" type beat, also both raising a kid and acting like dads together.
Their romance is both pure yet very passionate and is sexual without it being the sole purpose of the series, making it easy for all kinds of fujos to enjoy.
Also, the actual plot and story of the series is really engaging. Even with some weak points, the series has a lot of things to like. The characters and scenarios feel very mythological in how they span and how poetically some things play out. Even though it is a recent story, it has a very classic feel. Wei Wuxian in particular feels like a character out of an old tragedy, making him really stick with you after the series is over. (I am very new to this particular genre of chinese cultivation fantasy though, so I have no idea how it compares to other works but also I don't really care lmao.)
Honestly I came into MDZS skeptical and almost wanting to hate it because I knew some really annoying fans back when it first blew up that turned me away from it, yet once I finished it I truly felt like it deserved the hype. It's also kind of amazing to think about how the author planned and wrote all 5 novels in like, less than two years while also going to college.>>303719
I can understand why she would shy away from making another possible love triangle – it's like when shippers hate seeing their favs with someone else but now people are doing it with her own characters LMAO. I understand her mentality, especially coming from the era of Junjou Romantica where every man on screen was gay and fucking everyone else, but I found it weird that in interviews she acts like the other ships she hints at in the books are totes straight guys. Doesn't stop me from enjoying the ships, but is just so different to so many other authors in the genre who will either play into it or like to keep it ambiguous.
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I like that he seems to always think that his plans are going to be perfect and he fucks them up every time with his own incompetence/refusal to acknowledge his mental issues. It’s like a human version of that >I AM A GENIUS>OH NO!
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Also in the next chapter after he looks all serious telling Sada they’re going to have sex together he doesn’t bring it up again for an entire week lmao>>303988
Hope your trip goes well and looking forward to hearing any updates while you’re there, nonny
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You need to become stronger nonnie
. This is exposure therapy
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ok I ended up picking up Nu Carnival in spite of being anti-gacha/casual/harem games and I like it a lot more than I thought I would. A few observations:
>the sex scenes are good, though some obviously have more budget/effort than others
>the normie protagonist annoys me, which sucks because he's extremely involved in every single scene
>is funny sometime and doesn't take itself too seriously. The whole harem goes on an adventure together to save the world
>not really great for people that get super into one character imo; each one gets one chapter and their arc probably never goes anywhere
>I actually like the minmaxxing/grinding gameplay…
>favors people that play a little a day, events give good stuff
>Rei is bae even if his outfit is beyond human comprehension
>the gacha system is evil, but I lucked out and got a limited time Rei the first day he was available even though I had a 1% chance and am free-to-play…don't play if you have poor impulse control
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thought of you when this showed up on mercari
i can't read moon sadly
but what's the plot looking like so far nonnie
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I am begging for the nonnie who has access to psmhbpiuczn privatter to keep us updated.
not being able to find homoerotic subtext in a vampire inviting a man into his castle, imprisoning him there and then telling his female vampire harem to back off bc 'this man belongs to me', plus the inherent gayness of being a vampire and sucking peoples blood seems like a skill issue nonna
honestly though other anon is right, check out interview w a vampire and ann rice's stuff for the actual gay vampire content lmao dracula is frankly described as ugly asf in the books so i don't blame you for skipping him
oh also, highly recommend the picture of dorian grey. not vampires but close enough, and it's oscar wilde so naturally its gay as fuck
There might be some obvious ones, not sure how much of a reader nonnie
is, but Picture of Dorian Gray, Brideshead Revisited, A Separate Peace, Maurice, Death in Venice, On the Road, and the History of Henry Esmond all come to mind as classics with surprising amounts of subtext or just general wistful yearning for pretty boys
The Mr. Ripley books are all incredibly gay but kind of vary in quality. I also really liked The Secret History and The Goldfinch for more contemporary books. A lot of Dostoevsky’s books are kinda weirdly gay too (Brothers Karamazov always felt like this to me but I might just be making it up in my head). If you like fantasy The Silmarillion gets a little gay>>304743
I agree with this nona too, I also found Dracula to be pretty homoero but I’m always reading with fujogoggles on admittedly
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does anyone else have unironic yaoi withdrawals? sometimes i feel an impending sense of "doom" if go a few days without looking at bl or having a delusional daydream session before bed
>>304115>the normie protagonist is annoyingNonnie
, he is the best part in the game, we need slutty protagonists like him in blvns instead of the "Eh two guys can have sex with pp going inside poopchupe?!" retarded ones.
And if you are not familiar with blvns and voice acting, Eidens voice actor is currently blvns moans fav pick. He does otome too and many otomefags play the game and swallow the bl just for him.
I know it's trashy but I love the enemies/rivals-to-lovers trope in BL. Even when mental illness or trauma are involved. In darker stories where there's an abuser, I love when he either gets kicked in the ass and then he redeems himself, or if he ends up falling in love with the (hopefully manipulative) victim
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new BL game on erolabs (same platform that hosts nucarnival) called noctilucent before dawn, it has a very pretty artstyle. i think it has potential!
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Don't get me started anons, I've had VC brain rot since I was fifteen. Really loved the new show btw, though I surprised myself with how little I minded the changes from the books. Maybe I was just distracted by all the male nudity kek
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So I just go spoilered.
So I was looking at some video edits of Shutline and one video ended up revealing a huge spoiler and that is that Jake is actually a undercover cia cop agent all this time pretending to be a gangster.
Also by reading this comment you also got spoilered too MUAHAHAHA evil laugh
Since you already got spoilered how do you feel about this revelation?
Who the fuck cares how a uke looks like. Ukes majority of the times are the MC or self insert of the story so they're not the one the reader wants, it's the seme or top they want.
Although there are rare cases where the MC is the top in big/buff uke stories but that is rare because a majority of the time the uke will be the Mc and be small/feminized.
>>306220>keep your sissy feminizations fetish yo yourself.
What the hell do you even mean by your last sentence. Did your brain malfunction or something.
Most ukes literally look like ugly androgynous short aliens with bug eyes meanwhile the top/seme is a hottie.
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Lol no, I read whatever I find and this is the conclusion I came to after reading bl for years.
I've noticed that the character design for ukes is not created to be appealing to women instead its created to be relatable.
Why are you mad over a opinion or are you mad bcus it's true?
You're just stupid then. BL nowadays has all sort of artstyles and it's rare to find "ugly bug eyed aliens" now. If anything, the standard bl art style looks something like Given. Look here: https://www.chil-chil.net/blAwardRank/y/2023/
, none of them look like what you're bitching about, only a few have very feminine ukes. >>306228
Yeah you're just retarded. Nobody here cares, go tell twitter or the fujo-cringe thread about the evil gay fetish manga for straight people.
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to be very honest the majority of bl (in recent times) is just two dudes. it's rare to see trap ukes or even androgynous ukes, or even…pretty bishonen. i say this while understanding "just two dudes" is common because of translator preferences. i bet there's a lot more variance in jp bl circles…
then again, i'd also argue okane ga nai tier stuff wasn't exactly common back then. i get everyone has different ideas of masculinity and femininity but to me a guy being short and wimpy doesn't really mean he's "feminine", he's just a beta dude
>>306252>I bet there's a lot more variance in jp bl circles
Maybe if you're into a specific niche. You can see what the most popular stuff series are in places like pixiv comic and chil chil rankings, and all the characters just look like two dudes imo. I think there's less bishonen nowadays.
Look at the chil chil rankings for best uke and best seme from 2022, they all look like two dudes.
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>>306225>character design for ukes is not created to be appealing to women instead its created to be relatable
Disagree, the uke is supposed to be the more desired/cute.
A lot of it comes down to personal preference though.
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I’ve been spoilt by BLVNs and harada
All other BL feels mid to lame
im speaking specifically about BL vns but i love when protags aren't totally spineless. my fave BL game protags so far have been lucky dogs gian & michael from shingakkou, bc they actually have some spirit and in gians case at least he's not weak at all and can kick ass when he needs to.
i just hate it when BL protags have no personality whatsoever & the LIs have to swoop in to save them every 5 minutes its so so unappealing (lamento was so bad for this)
If you've already experience peak literature you've got some options either re-read it
get new skills like whittling wood or kite surfing or idk self improving
or create your own peak bl
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>>306220>I don't really look forward to the sex scenes
They at least don’t have a lot of nudity. The boxing pic sensei posted on Twitter has the least amount of clothes Mamiya’s been drawn with
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New BL anime adaption of the manga Twilight out of Focus is coming! Has anyone here read it?
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Rance always looked rapable (but also kinda ugly). All of the generic hentai protagonists look rapable. I always hoped they'll be approached my another male and the real fun begins. I remember one hentai that had such a scene, but they made a joke out of it at the end of an episode and didn't actually animate it, and i'm so maaad.
rance has a cute face and shark teeth, his retardation would make a fun unwilling bottom. I like a hair over the eyes cutie as long as he doesn't look too
close to a real unkempt ricecel, but the personality can stay to make extra intense stuff feel warranted.
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Recommend me stories where the uke is big and muscular.
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I looked up the CGs for masquerade and they’re honestly some of the funniest I’ve seen in a while, not really that sexy but very hilarious (the best one being a guy getting Coca Cola shoved up his asshole).
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I don’t trust this guy
I liked the art for Paradise, but looks like it's a 'MC only bottoms' which is no fun for me, I want MC to top.
I expected Masquerade to be hilariously, stereotypicall 'MC is uke' but from reading the VNDB entry, it looks like he may actually switch…?
Idk, the blond punk's (not Takara's) route in Paradise was really nice and oddly wholesome even if you weren't really into bottom protagonists. I'm not really sure if there's much that have tops. No Thank You is ok but a lot of it caters to gay men. >>306472
Lol, do you actually know what happens with him?
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>>306476>do you actually know what happens with him?
Nope, I just instantly don’t trust him at all.
Apparently Matsuda is the Mink though
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Hey, the pic is from "hard boiled love".
Yeah i like playthig too but the main story was too short.
Ili check the other two out.
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Why does he remind me of this guy?
What the hell, they're localizing a 17 year old game? I already played it with Visual Novel Reader and my basic Japanese, thinking it would never receive an English patch kek.
Interesting piece of trivia, it seems so have drawn inspiration from Gakuen Sodom, a game by PIL (PIL/SLASH's sister company that focuses on galge eroge). Both are about a violent criminal taking a high school classroom hostage and making them do sexually sadistic and humiliating acts
. I don't know what the galge is like obviously, I just read the summary on VNDB, but despite being short and mostly about everyone being forced to fuck each other at gunpoint, the plot in Masquerade was resolved nicely imo. And yes, it is hilarious as fuck, some of the endings are straight up baffling. There are several hot scenes, and there's also some romance between the protagonist and two other guys.
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Samefag but kek at this horribly translated summary.>insulted sexually
They literally just copy-pasted the shitty VNDB description.
I'm glad the CGs are going to be redrawn though, the wonky art sometimes got distracting.
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The protagonist in Nonke Ippatsu Tabehoudai was a qt although he is always tops iirc. Despite his looks, he's kind of his own character.
Thanks, I don't think I've seen that one before.
I can also recommend Omune-chan no Sainan, Bitten by Moonlight and the Beast That Yearns To Be Tamed
>>306215>Who the fuck cares how a uke looks like. Ukes majority of the times are the MC or self insert of the story so they're not the one the reader wants, it's the seme or top they want.
What? I never care about the seme exclusively, I want the uke to be cute and charming and the seme to work with his persona to create chemistry between them. These people coming in painting all fujos with a broad brush like they were laying god's truth piss me the absolute fuck off, especially when they're doing it using stereotypes from the mid 00's. At first I thought it was some male bait but now I believe it's some yumefag high on "I-I don't like icky disgusting gay folks I just self insert because t-that's what everyone does, right?!" copium. No in fact I do not want to fuck drawings but I like reading a good story about an interesting couple. >>306251
KEK underrated post
Kek, you're not really wrong. Matsuda somehow grossed me out more than Mink, though. Also as for Takara, I really liked his personality at first but he kind of reminds me of that cannibal from Sweet Pool
. God, I deeply regret playing that game and knowing this information. >>306513
honestly I'm mostly confounded by the choice not the age. If they were going for weird shit they should have done Shingakkou or Omega Vampire or something.
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>>306560>Matsuda somehow grossed me out more than Mink
Damn now I’m really curious and might do his route first when the games comes out just because of that, ironically though rape routes are usually my least favorite with the exception of Keisuke, who I think got the best route in TNC by far. >cannibal from Sweet Pool
He was my favorite and I was genuinely mad that he didn’t have a full route, especially since the actual love interest was boring as tar and had no personality.
I kind of assumed these games are working like test pilots, like selling two of their lesser known games first to gather money to translate Shingakkou sort of thing.
Apparently the main thing keeping them from doing so is one of the seiyuus is really expensive.
Sucks because the art style in Shingakkou is absolutely gorgeous.
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…ok I'm an idiot but why do they have to pay off the seiyuus? Aren't they just getting the licensing fee?>>306624
NOTE: beware, these are minor spoilers for Paradise. Skip if you wanna go in fresh.
Matsuda is weird because his route imo isn't really done well, except - take this with a grain of salt I've never been crept on irl - it has a very realistic feeling to it that's very rare in BLVNs…it also lasts for a very long time instead of culminating in one sadistic scene or something. Very controlling, possessive, demanding, cruel. He feels like an actual domestic abuser. His VA also went extremely hard with the creepiness. You might like it if you like being uncomfortable, kek. I do hear that there is a spinoff that "fixes" him and I'm not really sure what it entails. I think I kind of like Keisuke more because his yandereness makes him sufficiently unrealistic for me to enjoy his route.
Anyway, I think by the end Mitsugi is the only guy I like in Paradise. He's kind of spicy and sadistic but also pretty wholesome too.
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Shoutarou from uuuultra C
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is okay nonny
thank you anyway. i tried my hand at adding him plus a few other BLVN protags i could think of
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can i contribute?
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Out of all the gay ships that never became canon, Penguin/Riddler from Gotham hurts me the most, because unlike every other gay ship, this one actually had a chance of happening. Both actors playing them actually fit the sexuality. Penguin's actor(Robin Lord Taylor) was gay and Riddler's actor(Cory Michael Smith) was bisexual, and they had no problem with people shipping the characters and even having a romance. (Although Penguin's actor did have an issue with people shipping him IRL when he already had a boyfriend, which I can admit is a fair objection) But even then, it could have totally worked. The fans wanted it and had no issue with it, the actors wanted it, but instead, we get two seasons dedicated to bisexual dominatrixes (the writers obvious fetish) and a focus on a worse version of Harley Quinn.
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>>306934>we get two seasons dedicated to bisexual dominatrixes (the writers obvious fetish) and a focus on a worse version of Harley Quinn.
Sage for OT and I'm not even a fujo, but you described the situation perfectly. Literally, more then half of the female villains in Gotham was almost always a 90 pound, conventionally attractive lesbian or bisexual woman in BDSM gear. Even the female characters who "hated" men did so in a fetish femdom way and would end up sleeping with men half the time, what's weird though is the fact most of these episodes with bisexual dominatrixes were written by a gay male writer.(Charlie Huston)
if I speak I will get banned for racebait. above all things do not ever post that yellow fever shit here.>>306965
it's not always about the looks, it's about the chemistry.
peak male brainrot to think that a woman enjoying a male character who is literally designed to be attractive and appealing to women
somehow makes them what in their minds they consider a faghag…
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I haven't read new bl in literal years. Just got a bunch of recent uploads from yaoiotaku. Which one should I read?
Douseiyanki did grab my attention. Sad to hear it's not consistent, but it's good to know so I don't get my hopes up.>that are no doubt better than it
My issue is that I just don't know. There's too much stuff. The artists that I do know and like don't really have any free raws at the moment, and I don't want to buy any.
It really is an issue of having too much variety kek. I have a folder on another laptop filled with pre 2019 bl that I saved but never read.
Thanks for the recs nonnies.
I thought older Rin was cute (and it makes me wonder if he upgraded from uke character to switch character)
Rei looks like shit though yeah, Towa on the other hand looked supremely sexy in Taku's end.
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It got pretty long and the blonde completely went out and he started dressing like a tradwife.
Yeah sure keeps telling yourself that. People were shipping 3d before half of this stupid zoomer channel was even born. But as usual we can't discuss shit here because some anons are more trigger
than some twitter snoflakes.
I'm still very perplexed by it like his entire arc was realizing that he's attracted to Towa. So dumb. Also Asato has a bad arc? Bummer. He's very cute. >>307357
lolcow is an anime imageboard? That's news to me. >>307361
I find it ironic you roast nonny
over having that knowledge, but then have very specific examples that most people aren't aware of having a huge female fanbase like Star Trek.
Jokes on you, Taku has my favorite route in SD.>>307405>lolcow is an anime imageboard?
NTA but all imageboards are pretty weeb to me.
hes a qt but i find his route very, very boring. granted thats a symptom of me finding lamento in general extremely meandering and boring. but yeah, asatos route kinda ends up being konoe and asato brooding and not being able to express their feelings for eachother for hours and hours of playtime, and also his route is very much separate from the others, which all intertwine with eachother in a meaningful way. >>307406
to be fair though SD doesnt have the best routes so i can forgive this. i said this before in one of these threads, but i didnt even realise i was on takus route (i went into my first route blind) until WELL past his first sex scene lmao. they have so little chemistry that genuinely i thought their awkward fumbling was part of the main plot….
i find taku very bland but his last sex scene w towa is quite sweet, at least. also helps that he's in the same game as madarame who i hate w every fibre of my being, so like… anything is going to be better than him
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You're right, but this thread is filled with around two people who are autistically obsessed with gatekeeping and then wonder why this thread gets so dead sometimes. People in this thread will get mad that people want to 3DPD ship in a thread called /fujo/ when ACTUAL Jap fujos are obsessed with shit like shipping the live action Spider-Man movies.
It's not worth fighting about but at least write in the rules in the OP, retards.
>>307417>to be fair though SD doesnt have the best routes so i can forgive this.
Can’t agree here either, SD is honestly my favorite visual novel in general (not just BL)>they have so little chemistry that genuinely i thought their awkward fumbling was part of the main plot….
I guess it just kinda depends on what tropes you’re into, I personally love the ‘grooming your father figure type character into being your lover’ and the whole route felt like an improved version of Motomi’s route in TNC, which did to me feel really forced and out of no where.>also helps that he's in the same game as madarame who i hate w every fibre of my being
I honestly ended up liking Madarame! He’s a shit head and his route probably has the least strong writing, but chemistry wise he and Towa had the best chemistry to me, helps that they were basically former fuck buddies and Towa’s masochism comes out best with him. Usually I don’t like the rape route (don’t like characters like Mink or Hanazawa at all, Shiki is kind of cringy but funny though) but I think Madarame gets a free pass simply because Towa actually likes getting abused.
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how blubberbutt cummerbund always manage to stay relevant with fujos? he was even in that really good BL movie 1917
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He was also a villian in the reboot of the classic BL series Sutaa Torekku. He's true fujobait.
>>307440>when did japanese fujos became the authority on shipping
Because we're in a thread called /fujo/ using a term from Japan, so obviously the actual use of it in Japan is worth considering? The point obviously wasn't that they are an authority on shipping.
Someone coming into a thread called /fujo/ with no explicit rules against 3DPD in the OP and saying 'I can 3DPD ship here because fujo is a Japanese term that, in Japan, includes 3DPD shipping and there's no explicit rules against it' is perfectly reasonable.
Like I said, it's not worth fighting about, put it in the rules in the OP next time and hopefully people won't sperg out about it.
>3DPD being forced in the fujo thread
Fujochan can't come back online soon enough, smashing F5 on their front page as we speak>>307413>>307429
The constant racebaiting and homophobia around the site interestingly correlate with the rise in autistic husbandofaggotry, I wonder why?
I hope the admin of fujochan is doing alright, I miss visiting there.>>307471
Also NTA, and I tend to agree. Slow damage might not be the most romantic game around but I loved the story. In fact, there's some games/VN that I wish had less romance if they just had a decent plot… But then again, I've always been a plot heavy kind of VN enjoyer. I don't usually like fluff as much, so maybe that's why I feel this way.
This isn't an anime board. Plenty of 3d threads exist. It's just half of this thread is anons who should go to therapy instead of posting online.>>307418>Go make your own 3DPD fujo thread then
Nothing in the OP says anything about 3d or 2d stupid zoomer.
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Stop replying to the 3Dfag, it's obvious they're just trying to intentionally stir infighting at this point.
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Pick your era
Going by aesthetics
I like pre heisei a lot but I don't really find it sexy, I think stuff clearly inspired by it like Shingakkou is pretty sexy but actual stuff from that era like Kaze is beautiful looking to me but not sexy
I like stuff like Royal Road and Crisp touch for actual BL
Fallen Angels does nothing for me art style wise or 'sexy' wise.
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Lovely art but this kinda grossed me out.
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I kind of love all of them for different reasons. 2000s was a pretty ugly aesthetic but I’m nostalgic for it anyways, especially the late 2000s, it wasn’t quite what the 2010s BL picture is and it wasn’t quite full Royal Road either.
I want the dramatic stories of the pre-heisei era but drawn in modern style. I fully agree with >>307607
though, BL has never been better than it is right now and realistically I probably wouldn't change a thing about it. As an oldfag fujo it took me a long time to get into BL simply because the art was so shit back in the days but now the quality has soared and there is a lot of selection. When I think about the 00's style I'm instantly reminded of Shungiku Nakamura and how much I despised her work.
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Stop with this shit bait and go back to the antifujo thread to sperg about men being oppressed by fujos and projecting your own coomerism into them or whatever dumb shit you do there. Here, I'll even give you a post to screenshot and mald over: The Y chromosome is a genetic disorder and will be bred out eventually.
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>>307463>new anime season is kinda shit (save for 3 series at max)>fc down>too hot to do anything>still no transformer comics either
I am dying. I would draw my gay bots but I lack the energy.
I miss the Vinland Saga thread, it's so much fun and even pretty active for fc standards.
said we understand what you meant but it's no use trying to explain it to these people. You could spell it out with letters visible from the moon and they would still play dumb and intentionally misunderstand the point you're making just to find more reasons to circlejerk about how fujos are just misogynistic rape porn addicted coomers who will troon out and worst of all draw anon's husbando kissing a man. They claim to despise fujos yet can't stop themselves from monitoring this thread and engaging in the conversation just to throw their poop around like the chimps they are.
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It might be too woke for some I fear but I liked that Nimona starred an openly gay main character with a partner. Lesbians are pretty common by now but gay guys are usually omitted or you only see it happening with background characters or a sidekick with an unreciprocated crush.
can any kind nonny
translate this? i can only read like 2 words
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kek I honestly watched for the design of the black knight in the first place, considered him cute before I even knew he was gay. But my taste is weird I guess, I also find Tsurumi hot as shit. Post-brain damage I mean.
thank you so much nonna may your day be filled with good fortune & beautiful anime men.
and yes you absolutely should!!! even if you're not too into BLVNs, dmmd is still worth playing imo
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I'm a yurifag with some latent blshitting on the side, but thank you and you're very welcome, nona! I'm always happy to translate whatever I can.
its a solid ship but i wish there were better characters to ship gentaro w sometimes i cant lie. i have a hard time imagining him and dice actually having much to talk about sometimes lmao.
but this is a problem i have with hypmic in general, theres a startling lack of actual good ships outside of maybe doppo x hifumi (and even then…)i still love the pic from ayrt though it's so good
It’s honestly hilarious to me how in cartoons the only actually cute gay couple I can think of is Creek(I don’t think either of Shiro’s NPC boyfriends were cute, even though Shiro is very cute) otherwise they’re either >Someone’s ugly dads (9 times out of 10 tall thin white guy and short fat black guy)>maybe background characters next to some lesbians
There was a self insert fakeboi troon character in some Netflix cartoon who got with a guy though who were both main characters, so as long as it’s actually just straight people it’s okay I guess.
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>>307729>I feel like shipping either of them with Ramuda got more popular over time
But Ramuda already has a husband…they’re just kind of in a rocky area right now….
Pre-Heisei and 2010s I guess.
Still not really reading BL since they are still mostly looking like j-rock and k-pop twinks and I hate those faces and teens in general but afaik modern BLs have at least more varied stories and aren't just the feminine girlboy and the seme.
Pre-Heisei looks like yuri but at least they were pretty. And the stories often had some dark or weird turns that made them interesting to me.
2000s were the worst and they look and feel like hetero to me.
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To me, their relationship is Gentaro making up fake things to trick Dice with for entertainment 50% of the time, 40% of the time Dice being an unruly and unlucky sugarbaby that needs to get bailed out of absurd and comedic trouble, and 10% Dice being really, really sincere about things that catch Gentaro off guard. I think Gentaro would do most of the talking because whether it'd be lying or being honest, Dice would believe him and give a sincere answer.
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>>307776>The pairings I am actually into are never from BL series to be honest
Oh…you're one of those types…
>>307764>it does look like a thinly veiled feminist manifesto>it'll hopefully open the eyes of some readers who hadn't previously thought this deeply about feminist topics … Maybe feminist concepts arriving in such a package will get a foot in the door of their minds>I will lose my shit if this manga causes some fujo to peak and become a radfem
consciousness-raising is a form of activism. the idea that ABO/yaoi/whatever would inspire a woman to be a feminist is completely absurd when you consider that women here were talking about how boring they find feminist critique outside of yaoi>>307768
it's not the fujoism that bothers me, it's the moralizing about it. for the record i also find it retarded when women in the fanfic thread talk about how their self-insert fics are totally getting back at men by "objectifying" their husbandos. it's ok to like stuff without pretending it's some eye-opening anti-oppressive conceptual framework or whatever. it's silly
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Please report and ignore the infighting faggot, no one wants to hear this debate again.
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NTAYRT, but what's the problem with this? I read both BL and non-BL, but most of the relationships I enjoy are from non-BL's. I dream a typical Shounen would actually include boyxboy instead of bait one day because I love adventure stories more than romances.
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izlo is pretty based, I agree
Late on this convo, but in a decade or two we might honestly see people drawing in the style of the 00s, in the same way we see people now aping 80s and 90s styles. If we're just talking about aesthetics, I personally like the older styles more. But if we're talking about content, modern stuff is the best, no contest. >>307697
ughhh, I miss it too. I want to go sperg in peace away from this thread.
Women have historically way more tolerance of lesbian stuff than straight guys do with gay men. Even a lot of first yuri ships were written by women. >>307597
Modern BL, no question. Pre-2010 BL is basically like BETA bl, the genre was still finding it foot. Nowadays you get so much variety and it's starting to cross to other genres.
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The more I look at him the more painful not owning him becomes
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I don't actually know if he's photocopying it, he might just be sitting on it.
I barely even notice if a story is a/b/o anymore unless it's extremely focused on smut or in-universe politics. It's just background noise in a lot of series, like normal writing otherwise but the characters are really affected by smells and social heirarchies. I also don't care about mpreg unless it gets into the gory details, it really only exists for the sake of including baby daddy drama or family fluff.
People get way too mad about this stuff, the only thing that really matters to me is writing quality - a really good author can make any weird shit enjoyable.
the only time ive found that shit acceptable in a BL work is sweet pool, and that gets a pass bc its not really mpreg a/b/o in the traditional sense & its practically a horror vn anyway.
i genuinely thought mpreg was just a weird niche fetish so it's very strange to hear there's like, actual BL being written around it
Don't like them. Actual ABO stuff seems to be easy to avoid and it's very rare in the fandoms I was in so I am pretty neutral since I don't see it unless I search for it.
Something related to preg that annoys me are family/kid AUs since that shit is incredibly popular and people use it to shill their shitty OC children everywhere. So a part of the art tags of your fandom is just filled with badly designed chibis and everybody that does it also turns cool gay dudes into ships that might as well be het crap written by some mormon or something. One of the reasons for why I like m/m is because it explicitly avoids all that and because it's just giving me two cool badass dudes being weak for each other and ruling/punching/going on adventures otherwise.
I think what also annoys me about this is that it shows how a lot of fujos are genuinely incapable of imagining a romance without children and marriage and probably not without classic gender roles either.
needs to be done in the bg or else i get squicked out. >abo
used to really hate it but now i love it. i enjoy reading works that are autistically in depth about it.
ABO is fine so long as it's relegated to being the flimsy pretext as to why chara A and chara B need to fuck right this very second, but as soon as omega oppression comes into play I'm out. Reading that kind of ABO makes me feel like reading torture porn het, since the bottom is literally a woman in most respects(referred to as a wife/mother, is a victim
of misogyny, etc). Detailed descriptions of dripping assvagina cloacas, ovulating boyvaries and man-uteri also skeeve me terribly kek, just leave the attempts to explain their biology out of it and let them fuck
Controversial opinion but mpreg where there's somehow a fetus developing in a male body when it shouldn't(whether it be through magic, technology, etc) is a guilty pleasure of mine. It's kind of a body horror thing, which imo is a great vehicle for hurt/comfort with the top getting to be more protective towards the bottom. Yes it's cringe, I won't deny that, but I want my OTP to suffer so they can become daddies okay
Oh definitely. It's the speds from the antifujo thread looking for shit to take out of context so they can claim that all of us like ABO, which is ostensibly straight, so why can't we just enjoy straight shit like the perfect little vanilla trads they want us to be. Retardation.
It's one of many reasons I fucking despise ABO, personally. It's gross, it's cringe, it's based on nonsense wold science, and what the hell is the point of writing a story about two men fucking if you're going to make it basically straight by adding the ABO and mpreg crap. I've tried reading some of the "less cringe" ABO stuff and it still repulsed me. It reads like it's written by people who've never had sex in their lives, or even from a planet where sex happens.
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>me being an mpreg liker reading this thread
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The only mpreg I actually like is Sex Pistols, because of nostalgia goggles but I also find it so stupid and funny. I haven't read it in years, but I really should.
I "get" ABO and its appeal because as women we've been made to think that the ultimate proof of love, the "two becoming one" experience is having a child and being two men you can't "perfect" their romance, so I don't see it as necessarily straight thoroughly but definitely a representation of the heterosexual endgame. The added animalistic nestbuilding and such crosses over to weirdly detailed fetish territory though and the alphas dominating omegas is definitely a BDSM thing.
That said the way they try to use omegaverse as a self-declared gotcha of how we actually are only into straight relationships but just don't realize it perplexes me. What kind of a person is so obsessed with fujos enjoying a relationship featuring two men that they first accuse them of self-insertion into the bottom despite the effeminate girly uke being a near dead trope and ultimately claim that all fujos are into ABO (despite most of us actively disliking it even in this thread, at least the pregnancy aspect) and thus are just NLOG aidentrannies who hate women and want to carry Chad's child, and should instead write stories of women being forcibly impregnated. What kind of a person indeed?
The issue is how much the lines of ABO are being blurred in bad faith. ABO is a whole ass alternative universe about alphas, betas and omegas being subgenders that define your reproductive system, with pheromones and heat suppressing and such, but mpreg predates it and has been around forever with different plot devices like ridiculous rectal wombs or weird pregnancy spells or as a body horror/humiliation fetish and so forth. FTM fiction is the most recent addition, and it's just straight out hetero sex. In the other two genres it's always two biological men, but with plots involving FTMs it's someone who is
a born female, not a man with magical anatomy. This gets overlooked a lot and spergs do it intentionally, they pretend to not see the difference and repeat "but if you can get pregnant you're a woman so it's the same thing!" ad nauseum as if they were suddenly incapable of suspending disbelief with fantasy biology.
>>308431>the "two becoming one" experience is having a child and being two men you can't "perfect" their romance, so I don't see it as necessarily straight thoroughly but definitely a representation of the heterosexual endgame.
Christ that is so bleak, not just because it's homophobic, but because you're probably right that women have been so brainwashed into romanticizing heterosexual power imbalances and being defined by having/raising babies. Giving birth and raising children fucking sucks. Being in a relationship with a scrote sucks 90% of the time when you're a woman. If you're still projecting that garbage into fantasies and fiction, you haven't caught on to those problems and are still buying into the myth that those things are necessary for "happily ever after."
Childfree gay people (regardless of whether they're men or women) are fucking based because their relationships have fewer power imbalances and they're not saddled with an expensive, soul-sucking kid for eighteen years.
A lot of them are the table scraps of the FTM thread which in itself is the local hotspot for scrotes mad about girls sexually unavailable to them, Not Like Other Aiden crabs seething over their own kind, yumes possessive over their husbando's heterosexuality and tradthots who hate all GNC women in general.>>308450>>308495
Kek NTA but I remember seeing it once and checking it out, nope'd out around five pages in and the drawings still fucking haunt me. Nonnie
forgot to mention that it's filled with graphic gore which the circle is known for, including angst and horror.
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Does anyone have a ship that they really like the look of/think the ship always looks really looks good together in fanart, but they don't actually really like this ship? For example I don't really ship AsatoxKonoe, but I alaways think the fanart for AsatoxKonoe is really good, and I think they look good together.
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Kurapika and Chrollo have some of the most gorgeous and classy, sexy fanart ever, but I can't imagine them being romantic towards each other lol
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Impressive fujo collage not gonna lie
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>ugly generic-looking salaryman bl gets anime
I hate it.
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It's going to sound dumb but I have a hard time getting into new series and I want a quick, convenient way to keep up with everything I like or I should add to my backlog that's more or less related to BL. Whether it's actual BL or just fujobait. Should I make an online list on some blog so it could work as some sort of recommendation list if anyone else finds it or should I write this in a small notebook? If online, what platform would you suggest? Carrd seems like it's taylor made for this kind of things despite being mostly used by stupid gender obsessed teenagers.
I normally wouldn't care but these colors are so dull it's almost painful. the live-action was good, just leave it at that….>>308581
A carrd might be good, it mostly depends on how you plan on organizing your list. there are countless options for blogs: wordpress, blogspot, neocities, etc. I always like seeing others bl recs.
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>>308568>kawoshin right in the center
as they should be
I don't care if this gets my fujo card revoked or get calleda moid I can't no longer hold myself: I hate Kawoshin and I find it boring as fuck.
It's stupidly boring and it goes nowhere and the fans are always setting for less and getting cucked because it's a franchise for straight dudes.
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It's not about the relationship going somewhere, it's about the unconditional love of someone you were designed to destroy. The cosmic rewriting of fate to protect someone who had a positive impact on you. Feeling that life is worth living because the kindness and love of one person is worth just that much. You just don't get it smh smh…
NTA but I'm not a huge Kawoshin person but I appreciate it for being one a portrayal of gay relationship in a series that is otherwise notorious for its "best girl" debate, especially seeing how it was made in the 90's when it was even more rare than it is now. Also agree with >>308639
, for most people their appeal isn't about the relationship "going somewhere" but the curious affection non-human Kaworu has for Shinji. And moids hate it so that's a bonus.
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this was surprisingly fun, nitro+chiral fans pls post yours so we can compare and i can judge your tastes kek
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Judge me, nonnies. The granny is first because she's a woman, of course, but honestly she could be written better. I don't know about Fujieda yet, i didn't play his route yet because this game is so damn boring, i started playing it in december and still can't finish. But i like his concept so far and he seems mysterious. For now, it seems, he loves Towa the most. But i don't know yet. Shiki, obviously, belongs to D-tier, but i give him C for the priceless endings. Oh, and i didn't play the cat game yet.
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Haven't played a single one of these games, this is based on pure vibes.
admittedly it's funny seeing him as the only character i put in S rank, but even though lamento is by far my least favourite n+c game, verg just has this 'kyaa' factor for me that i never really got w any of other character. i wish i could explain it better. i love the vibes he gives off & i wish his ending was better tbh. that's what elevates him from A to S rank imo: all the characters i put in A are ones i thoroughly enjoy, but verg is just… idk man i feel so weirdly attached to him, im even tempted to say he's got husbando potential
side note but if the shaman character from lamento were on this chart id have put him in S or A rank too. for such a boring vn, lamento has so many good side characters…>>308665>ren is s rank
it's been so long since i played dmmd, i just remember not feeling much towards ren except mild amusement at the fact that aobas dog got an actual route kek
also elevating shiki from d to c based on his endings alone is so valid
. if not for his bad endings id have put him way lower too, theyre the only real thing that makes him interesting outside of his va >>308666>based on pure vibes
i respect you for this but putting madarame in s rank is unforgivable, im sorry
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Have you read the manga version? I love all versions of Kawoshin but the manga version is definitely the best, it’s very tsundere and Kaworu is fucking nuts though.
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I admit, I don't have a consistent type of guy that I like. Anyways, I'm a Towa fag all the way. That little edgelord has my heart.
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I always anger people when I post my tier lists, kek. And I may or may not have rage quit Lamento because Kaltz is not a love interest…….
you really didn't enjoy sweet pool huh
& yeah i agree w you about kaltz, he's great. he didn't even get an ending ffs unlike the other devils. they just tell you 'oh actually he's asatos dad
so fuck you for wanting to pursue him, we won't even give you a bad end'. we deserved better
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>>308656>>308666>hasn't played>fujieda on D rank
it shows>>308679>shiki above fujieda
i don't get it
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Holy fuck this is hot
Gotta love the iconic bad ends for nitro chiral games.
>>308760>nano dead last
i can't help but take this personally, he's meant to be the true route nonna…..putting trash like madarame and shiki above him is unforgivable>>308773
i love this but it took me a sec to realise that's meant to be towa in the middle kek maybe im a freak but i always wished arbitros end where you see akira in dog form was longer and had an H scene. they hint at it but don't show it, meanwhile in all aobas similar bad ends you get to see everything… dog akira walked so aoba could run truly
I'm sorry nonny
, Fujieda is just ugly…
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tnc should have had a kau route.>>308760
i'll be honest i really don't like this one>>308775>spoilered text
i was expecting an h scene and then the game ended just like that, i'm still upset about it
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we can only dream
i want to see an alternative tnc route where it turns out kau was il re and running igra from behind the scenes and was playing arbitro like a fiddle the whole time lmfao.
he'd do a better job than shiki let's be honest
Does the MC ever top in this game?
I want to play a new BL but playing a 'bottom-only' protag is soul-crushing to me
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Only Akira, he tops Rin in one route.
All other Nitro chiral protagonists are bottoms.
I know there are BLVNs out there where the protagonist tops (pretty sure Lykt is like this but I haven't read it) but they're uncommon compared to the protagonist bottoming yeah.
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I wish they could just give a proper update on the movie, if they cancelled it, if they are still working on it, something.
To me this reads more as exposing production companies as leeches more than anything, but also, can they not do what Trigger
did and crowdfund literally one of the most popular and successful series of the past decade? Can they not sell it to another company for being a huge IP? (Though I think this is a last ditch idea because selling it means it goes to a different art team than the ogs)
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Dakaretai Otoko sucks so bad, manga and anime both, i wasted my fucking timeeee
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the art is really ugly. You can tell it was drawn by a moid. Hope you like it tho.
I'm back to say, I liked it a lot. I expected something very different though. I thought it would be some sort of mind game between a cold blooded murderer and his executioner just manipulating each other all the time but it turns out that the killer is way more sympathetic than that, and it was assisted suicide all along instead of an actual murder. It was way more depressing than I thought it would be.
The crazy fangirl is hilarious until the end though.
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honestly i feel like im the worst anon to ask bc ive been vocally critical of lamento in a few of these threads kek, its really not myt favourite.
asatos route is unique from the others in the sense that the storys different i guess? so you find out about asato and his past in the village he came from, and his connection with kaltz. im assuming youre the same anon who originally ragequit bc of kaltz not having an ending ,so for you its defo worth playing asatos route so that you can see more of kaltz (i like him a lot too tbf.) asato's ending also feels quite tonally different to the other two imo.
for me personally, asatos route was the first one i did and it was a big let-down and basically ruined my enjoyment of the game lmfao but ymmv, loads of people love lamento and despite my criticisms i wouldnt say asatos route is not
worth playing, just depends entirely on how you feel about the characters.
thanks for reading my wall of spergery anyway have some kaltz x verg as compensation
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just the current state of BL, this makes me nauseous. i'm so sick of moid pandering media and shoujo crap getting all the adaptations
why would studios waste money producing BL series when they know they can get easy money off moids who want to see big booba anime girl kiss generic self insert protagonists for all eternity
also i agree w >>309225
, id rather BL series didn't get picked up by studios if it means they'll be turned into quick cash grab seasonal garbage as shown
Eh, I found number two to be sort of cute.
What really pisses me off is that some count number 7 as bl because the female lead is used to be a dude.
ntayrt, >3D would be much easier, speaking from experience.
is that so? i often see 3D models and assets in the backgrounds of anime, BL and non-BL alike.
I don't actively read shoujo manga but I'm pretty sure a subgenre of it is supposed to be "ikemen falls for the bland unpopular girl". Tall might be more dificult since japanese people aren't tall. But off the top of my head I can think about a couple series like that so it can't be rare.
One of the series on that list actually fits your description too.
One thing that might make 3D animation easier than 2D is the fact that once you make a model/scene/object, you don't have to remake it, no matter how many times you use it. With 2D animation, a lot of times artist have to redraw characters for every different scene to account for different angles, perspectives, etc.. While it is harder to initially make those 3D models, once you have them, your set in that aspect. 3D animation has its own challenging aspects too, of course, but there's also a lot more software that can help you through those issues. I've worked in maya and rendered using arnold (3d animating software, somewhat similar to blender), and there's a lot of presets, tools, tutorials that can help you. If you're good at coding, you can even code your own animations (though this is mathematically challenging). I also love 2D animation, but if you asked me to publish an ocean scene with waves on the beach tonight, I would be making that scene in maya. Things like water, cloth animation and lighting are all taken care of by tools in these softwares.
3D is considered cheaper for this same reason, and it can feel un-personal to some viewers. I don't disagree with them, especially because some companies over recycle their models and motions to death. The only reason the original OP might consider 2D over 3d is stylistic choice, or lack of a 'beefy computer'. Rendering a 3D scene is a pain in the ass with lower end technology, but it's also not impossible.
That piece of shit Kiss him Not me series had her be an ugly fatty in the beginning but she literally starved herself into suddenly becoming a skinny, conventionally attractive girl. You will never find a shoujo that has a non-traditionally feminine and pretty girl being courted by an ikemen, even the "plain" girls are just "plain pretty" because they're supposed to be power fantasies for little girls.
Anyway hetshit doesn't belong in this thread and I want it out right now
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just found out king's throne has a third season and i'm screaming. look at their baby!
i do a mix of all. 2D, 3D, stop motion but my work is mostly corporate since that's what pays me the most. i saw this on Twitter yesterday https://twitter.com/akira_yoru/status/1385531655461359616?t=Gtf5iZqwaWZUmKHLTn1WLw&s=19
of course my work is not going to be as good or as detailed as hers but if i simplify it enough i can make a BL. i already have all the needed Adobe software + blender to get me started and like you said itll be difficult but im used to working on long projects. its the price i have to pay for yaoi on screen.
And that's why I don't read shoujo kek. It's supposed to be a power fantasy for women but the girls are always conventionally cute/pretty by men's standards, and in the most boring ass way too. The only manga I've read daring to have an ugly woman with a super pretty guy is Adekan (I haven't read that in a while though so I don't know if the author gets rid of her).>>309379
She's the typical overpowered little girl but she's cute! I like her dynamic with the "grandma". The last chapters are a bit all over the place imo but it's nice and self-indulgent kek
Unhinged white hair guy>Uke
Menhera cutter >tropes/dynamics
Character introspective psychological horror, at least one schrodinger's cat mention
Basically I just want BL madman characters. >plot
I'm up for most things since I'm more into character focused stuff, preferably not nerdy wizard fantasy shit or shounenshit though.
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Re:Zero Otto x Subaru.
I've actually seen that one shilled a lot and I'm mildly curious about it, but apparently most of it is exclusive to the light novels. How is Otto unhinged out of curiosity? I don't mind spoilers.
Also Remfags made me avoid Re:Zero.
Tall and not ugly>uke
Tall and tan/brown>tropes/dynamics
Both are switches/around the same height. Act like two partners with a deep bond that borders platonic and romantic, but are still playful with each other. >plot
Doesn't matter, I just prefer action/adventure with the romance on the side, but still prevalent. No boring political drama.
>>309487>Also Remfags made me avoid Re:Zero.
Can't really blame you lol.
Anyway, it's mostly due to his background of being mentally retarded as a child due to his powers, being targeted by assassins at an incredibly young age, plus being willing to lose his morality and get into the "taboo" when it comes to the inuniverse stuff.
There was also an au spin off from the author where Otto loses himself to debt and becomes a dead body cleaner and Subaru ends up going completely yandere and becomes a terrorist.
There's also a different au spin off where Otto leaves forever and Subaru goes mad whenever he thinks about it, punching walls and stuff
and another where Subaru goes mad and specifically targets Otto to kill because to him, he's the mvp of the group.
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Sounds based but I'm not surprised most of it is in AU stuff over main series stuff
Though I notice the trend with most long running isekai is that eventually they introduce a male love interest who makes the protagonist mcfucking lose it.
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dark hair, tall, sadistic/mean/stoic/obsessive >uke
pale hair, small, androgynous/feminine. tsundere and pure-hearted >tropes/dynamics
rabbit/wolf type dynamics, maybe abo. corruption >plot
something harada tier.
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I have yet to finish Luchino’s route but hands down luckydog1 is probably the best bl game out there, the story, characters, and the humor really blow it out the park. I don’t know if I should check out badegg but I am disappointed that they changed the voice actors sans Giulio’s.
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SERIOUSLY NONNIES SHIP THEM MORE if anyone could tell which episodes those scenes are from, would be great kekek
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Kyuugou of Acid Town has drawn multiple HasegawaxGintoki books. They're really good. I love her slutty languid Gintoki.
When I was at Comiket ywars ago I also bought HaseGin doujin and merch (totebag) kek
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thanks for the tips, nonny
. but I am in the hell of my own creation anyway because I realize Leaks is even hotter than Kaltz and while I find them platonically very cute I don't at all find asato, rai, nor bardo attractive. why must I be like this? why can't I just accept what's given to me? kek. whatever though, enjoying myself. love the atmosphere of this game.
, i really can't find it anywhere except for MRM. MRM is blocked for me too, you really need a VPN at this point, because this sucks, it has most doujiinshis. But you can google "Gintama dj - Guilty Game" and find it on russian.
ahh i loved lucky dog, i can't wait for the localisation to be finished finally bc im genuinely so excited to replay it & im holding out til then.
i never finished lucinos route either bc back when i played it his route hadn't been translated yet. but i remember being blown away by ivans route. gians such a good protagonist too, he puts other BLVN protags to shame imo.
i hope when the localisation is finally finished a couple of anons will also play lucky dog and we can post about it here a bit. anyway who waa your favourite route nonna, and what do you think of the characters?
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Is it me or Asato's route is weirdly short? I am in middle of it and I'm already on the last choice (as shown in the guide I'm following). If the route is really as long as the others yet has no other choices that's quite odd.
iirc theres quite a lot of space in the story between the last choice and the end of the route? like a lot happens.
anyway i cant actually remember if asatos route is shorter than the others but it didnt really feel like it to me.
are you gonna play the bad ends anon or just do the good ends? i heard asatos bad end cg is gross but i never bothered to play it kek
thanks for the reply anon.
when fujochan comes back i think i try a bit harder to post and contribute there. granted its still not going to be able to fill the social niche that lc does for me currently, but i appreciate that there is a place out there run by and for fujos to post in without judgement or gendie bullshit.
i really really just wish it were a bit more active so that it'd be easier to have conversations over there – it always made me sad seeing threads there where the posts are months apart
Nta but I just wanna say I agree with this message. I tried joining a Facebook group and a discord for this shitty phone game I liked. I figured it might be safe since there wasn't a huge western fan base. Man was I wrong. The discord was filled with zoomers, with a lot of them still in highschool. I just wanted to see fanart and memes, not teenage discord. I left almost immediately. It's not worth it Nonnas. I should have known better.
I am also awaiting fujochans return. It might be small but I'd take anything that doesn't have a callout posters.
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actually I might end up dropping it - I already feel like I learned plenty from it - and just going to other routes; I don't like Asato and I imagine his bad end is like Ren's from DMMD except nastier, kek.>>310377
Finding private small servers is probably the way. I've had good luck with them. Problem? Getting into them is hard.
there are specific niche subreddits that are decent on reddit, but the problem is there isn't one cohesive group (/r/BLGames, /r/MM_RomanceBooks, /r/Yaoi, /r/Boyslove, etc.) The communities can also skew younger with a lot of zoomer lingo and screeching. Overall though, the discussion isn't too bad.
I think twitter isn't too bad if you find normal people, but you'd have to actually dig for the gold there. Forums are the best bet if you want to meet older normal people, but they have general inactivity problems.
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I know non-japanese works are not allowed here but that fucked up story Placebo with only 3 chaps just got serialized and now it's become a ongoing story called Placebo:Let's Play
Anon you are going on male boards being surprised that there are men there. Sorry but this is just as retarded as the moids who come here and then go chimp about us on their sites.
Also anon…those are faggots let's be honest, none of them want to touch your coochie.
My issue isn't even that, it's that I can't imagine how much of a weirdo you'd have to be to enjoy something made entirely by women and for women. Reading bl as a gay moid must be a stepping stone into becoming a tranny or some other kind of social misfit.
But you're right, if a moid irl told me they like bl, I would instantly assume he's a predator.
Shut the fuck up retard, you spend so much time on 4chan and other male imageboards that you are paranoid and accuse everyone of being a scrote.
Alienating women is the reason why the quality of these threads went down so much and now it's filled with 4chan retards and shota defenders.
I'll be waiting for your transition.
.. .huh? What the hell are you talking about, I hope your deranged tinfoiling gets redtexted.
You know I am a woman because if I was a man you wouldn't be talking that with me especially not with the ones you spend all your time on 4chan with, you subhuman.>>310723
I obviously meant how anything that has a anime style gets labeled yaoi even if it's made for gay coomers.
Anime = Japanese animation and animation style.
The gay guys I knew irl who read BL were TRAs but would never, ever troon out. I wonder if they actually just support muh troon rights just because they still see the movement as being about mostly very girly gay men just wanting to marry their boyfriends and not gettig discriminated at work and when looking for a place to live. But on the other hand I've seen a few twitter accounts of people calling themselves fujoshi who read BL but they were very obviously MTF because they were retweeting shota art, trap porn art, etc. There are plenty of women who like shota but they usually don't like the same art styles and scenarios as men, it's obvious. Even among gay guys it's sometimes different. Like I was talking about Black Butler with a gay guy and he was like "When the first season came out and I was in high school I wished I were Ciel because Sebastian was my husbando" but the troons I'm talking about reacted to the new season announcement by sperging over how fuckable they found Ciel. Weird, disturbing shit.
tldr; it really depends on which gay guys we're talking about.
I tried being active on /y/ on 4chan for a while but I had to drop it because every discussion was eventually derailed to some unrelated shit no one cares about (and misogyny of course, faggots think yaoi is made for them). Like I remember browsing to see the latest BL mangas and some retard started talking about how rape for women feels good (according him, an autistic faggot). It's just full of moids and moids are unable to discuss anything without sounding braindead or talking about their personal political opinions no one gives a shit about, even in real life I just can't listen to a man talk for more than a couple of minutes.
I'd like to give fujochan a try when and if it'll come back up but it was so slow and there were definitely baiters there too.
Kek, the only moid I knew who was into BL was of the belief that women who enjoyed BL were automatically fetishists. When I called him out on it his excuse was that BL was about gay men for gay men, so he was allowed to read it. How the fuck do you hate women who read BL, completely ignoring the fact that it is a genre for and by women? He loved to complain about how he was being fetishized but I know damn well no one was fetishizing his ugly, twink ass. It honestly felt like such a cope. I think he just wanted a reason to hate (straight) women.
Deleted and re-posting to add that this dude would give dumb excuses for disliking it like "women were getting off to gay men being raped" and then would get off to those exact same stories…
This is unfortunately the typical logic seen in the modern LGBT community. It's so ridiculously anti-women. They'll ride on the coattails of women's progress and media and then ridiculous us in the process.
With that said, I really appreciate the few places like this that still exist. I wasn't an active participant of fujochan because it seemed a little dead when I first found it, but I might have to be if it goes back up. I hope we can have spaces like this just to ourselves for as long as possible.
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Oh, I wanna say something positive. I love manga artists and doujinshi artists that make stories directed at women, especially mangaka like Yana Toboso. Even if some works aren't explicitly BL I still love the beautiful art and outfit designs. I also love doujinshi artists that create stories from my favorite series. Some of my favorite memories from high school was reading copious amounts of hetalia doujinshi, kek.
Although I don't read a lot of manhua, I wanna also say I love danmei books and a lot of the authors there. I've been getting into to 2ha and it's been really fun. I love that danmei authors also aren't afraid to add heavier plot elements. Although fluff is nice, I love all the different genres that danmei seems to cover, whether it's fantasy or mystery.
Manga: classic always, i like what they do with European-y settings(fairytale romance, stuff like that)
Manhwa: is really funny sometimes, i like the different art style of it, i like how many office romances there are, and i feel like it's less weird about homosexuality(like those "gay but only for you"/"i don't like you as a man, i like you as a person!" tropes)
Manhua: never read any somehow, but i've read a Chinese comic about two boys with ever so slightly homoerotic relationship and a fujoshi that ships them(Nan Hao and Shang Feng) and i think it's really funny, and trad Chinese men's clothing is cool.
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Little bit psycho. Its fairly new and I heard the uke is the yandere rapist in that one.
BL has a lot of outdated tropes and rules regarding how bottoms and tops should behave that everyone seems to follow, like the top must always be the one who chases the bottom. Yanderes also tend to be dominant and assertive, which is a classic top trait and it's easier to inflict pain on the receiver. But even in stories where bottoms are allowed to be more dominant and assertive, they still act very nonchalant about it, like it's just regular sex stuff for them and they're not very attached to the top. Like they could find dick somewhere else. On the other hand, a top is always super in love with the bottom and willing to do everything for them, that's why by following the BL rules is easy to write them as obsessed psycho yanderes
I think this is heavily influenced by heterosexual romance stories where the guy usually chases the woman and the woman represents this beautiful object of interest. They could just make it similar to moid gaze yandere media like mirai nikki but if we're being fair, if yuno was a man she would obviously act as a top towards that pathetic protagonist so we're not solving anything. I think some fujos are still narrow-minded and don't want to break the rules
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Nta but I came across this discussion and there are a lot of other similar ones too.
Opinions on fujoshis by Real Gay Men (who totally aren't just insecure straight girls policing what other women do) featuring their totally real gay bois experiences and "muh fetishization" by evil fujoshis, that really happened guys I swear.
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Reading so far, i think they'll at least be switches. If the blondie won't become a seme fully. Thank you for suggestion, nonnie
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Answering the first dude’s questions for fun
1. I don’t, I hate men and am very happy I was born female
2. Because Japan is a patriarchal society that values the group over the individual and gender roles are expected to be enforced in society
3. Because BL is for women not gay men and that dynamic appeals to the female gaze
4. It’s hot and I like reading stuff specifically for women in a space that’s usually pretty anti male, it making moids (straight and gay) seethe is a bonus
5. Only 13 year old K-pop fans do this because they’re 13, even then they only do it with their Korean celebrities because the average irl gay moid isn’t appealing to them at all
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Do you think they're ever gonna kiss? It's so obvious they like eachother but they're both so retarded I don't know when they'll notice
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1. i have never wanted to be a male
2. bad taste. fem ukes > all others
3. contrast is great
4. to kyaa unironically
5. i've never done this
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Still haven't seen this movie haha
genuinely wondering who would want figurines of these two.
i thought the movie was okay, kind of a fujo staple so worth watching just for that, but ive never thought about these 2 characters again after watching the film kek.
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Any hopes for Yaoi on Ice aka "Dogs Red"?
It's Noda's new ice hockey manga, it finally started. It's sport centered, but it's made by the mangaka of Golden Kamuy so it might actually get some good m/m dynamics and probably even gay jokes and gay ship pandering if it's anything like GK. I am eager to read it, but fuck knows whether we will get any proper (and regular) translations and scans. Most translators seem to focus on isekai and ecchi nowadays and the rest is usually doing mediocre MTL. I guess I hope that they'll release the physical volumes in the west at some point.
The first chapter has a good bunch of GK references, for those who are interested.
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>>311784>-Talking about trannys all the time is so annoying and it took over the whole site. Ot and M are filled with tranny discussions when that shit should be kept contained to snow and 2X.
I disagree. We should make trannies feel unwelcome here at every opportunity.
>Also there is a lack of threesomes in yaoi , like it will be super smutty yet still have no threesomes.
Well, there are DMMD doujins…
Nta but yeah, the movie is only one of the many volumes. I liked the movie, the author has some good stories (imo better than this one) like Copernicus's Breath and the one with the crossdresser but this one is just so fucking long, filled with pointless drama and overall it's just a mild slice of life.>>311784
I agree with the threesome bit, I would love to see stories with three men, I think the dynamics may be interesting (I normally hate polyamory shit though).
I was 100% with you about everything you wrote until you started talking shit about Jinx, nonnie
. (Just kidding I know how mediocre it is but it's my little guilty pleasure)
>characters who behave very juvenile towards sex
A 20-something character acting like an embarrassed teenage girl about sex makes me cringe, it's such a stupid and overused trope. Even an unrealistically slutty one would be more entertaining.
>Talking about trannys all the time is so annoying and it took over the whole site. Ot and M are filled with tranny discussions when that shit should be kept contained to snow and 2X.
This, I'm so sick of hearing about the tranny discourse all the fucking time, everywhere I go, no matter if you're for or against it. To be honest the trend has calmed down a lot in the mainstream and I barely see gendershit anymore so the anons complaining about the constant troonification must hang around 16-year olds because they're the only ones going bananas over troonery anymore. Literally every fujo over 20 I've talked offsite hate the transbending thing and roll their eyes at all the gaydens even if they support trans people otherwise.
>>311787>We should make trannies feel unwelcome here at every opportunity.
honestly this. i agree that a lot of users here take their tranny hating obsession to the next level sometimes, but i appreciate that we make it abundantly clear that moids and trannies aren't welcome here.
id rather see one too many 'kill all trannies'post than risk having this thread overcome with gendies and i think most people here would agree >>311784
i find the office setting to be so boring. it really sucks the joy out of it, especially when theyre doing nothing to subvert your expectations and it literally is some shitty corporate office setting…. who wants to read that