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No. 20688

>FUJOSHI ("rotten girl"): a self-mockingly pejorative Japanese term for female fans of manga and novels that feature romantic relationships between men.

Discuss yaoi and BL here, as well as series aimed at fujoshi (and fudanshi) like Hetalia, sports anime, and male idol anime. Discussion of BL games here is totally OK but please do not cannibalize the otome game general.

No. 20689

I don't have to tell you guys to spoiler images, right?

No. 20690

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Crimson Spell is the bane of my existence. It was the perfect yaoi manga ever but updates are so goddamn slow why Yamane-san, why?

No. 20691

Yamane is killing me because I love both Finder and Crimson Spell but she's so goddamn slow at making them and always leaves the chapter on a cliffhanger.

Seriously though I need something else to quench my thirst for animu gay sex. Are there any BL mangakas that draw hot smutty sex with fun characters other than her? Other BL mangakas focus 90% on the romance and the sex scenes are half censored and usually very short.

No. 20692

File: 1457374663966.jpg (495.06 KB, 1200x1693, 7fca2fd60385983a8591f55a0e49ca…)

Been getting back into reading BL more actively again by revisiting some old favorites and using them as jumping off points.

Still obsessed as ever with Yoneda Kou. Pic related is a fave. Gave me a huge boner for yakuza yaoi.

No. 20693

Teahouse anyone? It was awful though, when the girls who ran it just abandoned it with a quick written ending right when the comic seemed about to reach some high peak in the plot

No. 20694

Wow way to dust off that old memory.

No. 20695

File: 1457375104659.jpg (91.28 KB, 250x367, dFXhGgW.jpg)

I've been reading slash since I was a preteen. When you're that young, it seriously affects the way you learn about and understand sex/relationships - I think BL comics were the reason I, as a socially inept wallflower 14 year old, chased after guys who were the complete opposite of me. Because I had this idea that opposites always attract, courtesy of BL and slash fiction. (pic related, one of my way old school OTPs)

No. 20696

I never actually read it. Couldn't get into it. The art was pretty though. I think I found out about it right before they were like "lol we're done" so…bullet dodged I guess.

No. 20697

File: 1457375663766.jpg (243.12 KB, 1600x900, tbnf.jpg)

Anyone have more like this?

No. 20698

Omg yes, loved the self destructive behavior. That shit was hot

No. 20699

Can you perverts suggest any good yaoi with lots of rape in it? Well doesn't have to me lots but you knows, just rough stuff in general.

No. 20700

File: 1457376214386.png (Spoiler Image,567.37 KB, 1024x768, 1452557141159.png)

What's the sickest shit you've got?

No. 20701

Which one was the yakuza/gangster manga where there was a kid who was a photographer or something and then he gets caught by a mob boss and they have sex and there's a continuation where he gets kidnapped by the rival or something?

No. 20702

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Finder series?

No. 20703

File: 1457376710913.jpg (14.38 KB, 229x350, d0cc28b6cc4701e8d2989809165ace…)

Under Grand Hotel is an actual really good yaoi manga set in prison and there are multiple rape scenes. And not the typical "oh no I don't want this but my body says yes!" type of thing. But aside from that the plot is really compelling as well.

Plus you have a darker skinned character that isn't 'ambiguous tan' which is basically unheard of in BL.

No. 20704

Yes that was it! I feel like an idiot I was the one who posted Crimson Spell and forgot Viewfinder was the one I was trying to remember.

No. 20705

I'm more of a BL fan than yaoi. I don't mind a lil fuggin but anything too graphic turns me off.

A recent bl I really liked is Negative-kun and Positive-kun. It's really fluffy and cute.

No. 20706

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I like BL too. Cute and fluffy is always nice. I havent read Negative-kun and Positive-kun but upon looking it up, I have read pic related by same author. Ikemen-kun To Saenai-kun. It was cute, and the art is nice. I'll add it to my list.

When I was looking I got reminded of Kumota Haruko because a pic showed up on google image search. I think she only made a few stories but they were really good.

No. 20707

File: 1457378210398.jpg (244.26 KB, 600x842, nobara.jpg)

Nobara by Kumota Haruka in case you were wondering. It's a cute BL with older characters than a typical high school setting.

She also did Shinjuku Lucky Hole which was nice but a bit more sexual, has a nice 3p scene in I think the third installment. It's more toward BL so not very graphic at all if I recall correctly.

Looks like there are a few of her works that have been translated since I last checked so I'm going to read.

No. 20708

File: 1457378445867.jpg (132.77 KB, 510x564, yamashitatomoko.jpg)

I recommend Yamashita Tomoko for BL as well. Some people don't like her art style but I love it.

OT but she also wrote a nice student/teacher femdom oneshot called Mud.

No. 20709

File: 1457378673325.jpg (199.25 KB, 884x884, 5415-1246968610.jpg)

I've been playing Lamento and listening to/reading the drama CD translations, I like that Rhapsody to the Past has more background about the devils but I thought Razel's past was kind of disappointing compared to the others. Verg and Froud's were really interesting though.

I think what I liked a lot about Lamento is that for an adventure type VN it didn't have a lot of characters. It felt like there was a really personal story between the whole cast.

No. 20710

My time has come
Recently I've been feeling myself move away from more anime-style BL art and more towards Western-style art like >>139426 (ps that's kinda gross.)
It was just too cutesy for me
I've written a lot of fanfics for a an obscure pairing in a very obscure fandom recently. I think it's my way of getting out of drawing (like "oh ill just write it instead")

No. 20711

Heard of this one but never read it. Will check it out, thanks.

No. 20712

Thank you for all the recommendations anon. I need some manga to read, and that will fit the bill.

No. 20713

The drawing style is kind of a turn off though

No. 20714

Is the Sweet Pool english patch ready yet does anyone know?

No. 20715

UGH's ending made my heart race so hard. I still want to think it was real. Sword best boy tho

No. 20716

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Someone please tell me you have played this. Nobody has and I'm just dying because of it.

No. 20717

File: 1457387178661.jpg (220.26 KB, 952x718, enzai.jpg)

Oh hoooooly fuck I have played this. A reeeeeally long time ago, but I played it. Totally forgot about it. I'm gonna replay it soon now, thanks.

Also, pic related.

No. 20718

Fuck this game got me into BL so hard when I was an entry-level fujo. And what a way to begin. I think this game had some messed up stuff (it doesn't bother me at all) but the story was honestly really strong and it had interesting characters. Jose was my main route.

No. 20719

Oh god, I played both of these…
I'd tried to bury the memories until now.
Absolute Obedience was p. good, kind of a tease, but I liked it WAY better than the other one about the prison.
The first time I played through it, I unintentionally went with some horrible sadistic old fat man who dripped wax on the main character and stuck a cane up his ass.

kinda ruined yaoi for me for a while, tbh.

No. 20720

Chocolate boy was my fave.

No. 20721

Absolute obedience was a wild ride!!!! It was the first game I had ever played. A couple of weird things going on with it like toothbrush fucking but not bad.

No. 20722

File: 1457389075979.jpg (97.54 KB, 798x596, ferdinand.jpg)

If that was enough to put you off from yaoi, it's probably better you didn't play it further. It's got worse stuff.


The warehouse scene with Dirk is still hot tbh.

The game had some good comedy too in my opinion, pic related.

No. 20723

File: 1457389657678.jpg (66.57 KB, 637x476, ihihi.jpg)

>tfw Belbet was your fave and you can never end up with him and he can never be happy
my poor baby cutie

No. 20724

Sad bebe.

He was the reason I played.

No. 20725

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Vallewida will always be my baby. I still have caps saved from the scene of him in the dress. My femme baby.

No. 20726

Has anyone else ever gotten off to the thought of a crusg making love with another guy?
Just me?
Okay .__.

No. 20727

>fantasizing about 3d
Truly disgusting.

No. 20728


He was the reason I played as well. You two anons are great. Thanks for the memories. I should dig out my copy of this and replay it.

No. 20729

I JUST read this series last year. It was great. Also love the old school style art. I have such a lady boner for darker skin bishonens.

No. 20730

File: 1457396275907.jpg (Spoiler Image,184.33 KB, 700x1067, rmaiden_rose_comic_aqua_2007_1…)

The author will never finish this series and the OVA was shit, but she draws some of the best sex scenes in existence. (imo)

She does a lot of short stories as well. Draws the best military uniforms. My fetish.

No. 20731

damn this is p hot

great art, and no weird yaoi proportions, I love it

No. 20732

Homolust is so much better. I can't stand actual BL

No. 20733

I'm one of those gross sports anime fujos. I even ship 3DPD sports players together

No. 20734

File: 1457411656501.jpg (18.31 KB, 236x338, d124d1f416f63d689e003c7e1d7b91…)

I loved Negative and positive…instant love for gloomy guys in glasses

Anyone else excited for the doukyuusei film?

No. 20735

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Fuuucking Maiden Rose. I haven't thought about that shit in ages, man. I came across it accidentally while trying to look up episodes of Rozen Maiden. Klaus(?)' chin will forever haunt the far reaches of my mind.

Recently, I've been reading 19 Days. The art's probably not everyone's cup of tea, but that shit tugs at my heart like nothing else does. It's pretty comfy.
Another manga I've been keeping up with is Innocent, which isn't BL outright, but there's some occasional male-on-male wank that I'm sure some of you would like. I fucking love Shinichi Sakamoto's stuff. His art is so lavish and beautiful. Every page is goddamn stunning.

No. 20736

Oooh me too, but i kinda agree sometimes some of the shippers are really annoying though. i've seen friendship breaks over this shit, so i never tell anyone that i'm a sports fujos.

No. 20737

YES it looks beautiful. Sadly, doesn't it take Japanese movies a ridiculously long time for home release?

No. 20738

I know the shame, I really do.
On another note, have you guys check that rakugo anime? Shit is pretty gay, basically BL

No. 20739

File: 1457462779184.png (Spoiler Image,180.19 KB, 485x750, tumblr_o2d01yntzO1t0oz8yo1_500…)

Does anyone know stuff similar to image related? I just need some smut, be it oneshots, doujins or series and I'm dried up my alley.

No. 20740

No but there's a partial patch that covers all of the game, with some annoying bugs (mainly save.) If you want to play it I'd suggest doing it all in one go.

No. 20741

Innocent! This manga is great, and his art is only getting more beautiful too. I'm excited for Innocent Rouge, do you think they'll bring it over too? I've been keeping up with the italian localization so far.

No. 20742

I'm not sure what you want anon, certain kinks/character/series?

No. 20743

File: 1457464122659.jpg (222.63 KB, 800x800, 1419069318899.jpg)

Anyone NTY here? It must be one of my favorite BLVNs even though it's not like mainstream BL and some people find it pretty gross. Haru's story really wrecked me, CLOCKUP games are so quality. ossan best boy

No. 20744

What's NTY? I'm interested now.

No. 20745

File: 1457464867607.jpg (1.25 MB, 1920x1200, 02_1920_1200.jpg)

No, Thank You!!! It's by a CLOCKUP (Euphoria, Fraternite, Maggot Baits) BL branch and generally an amazing game in my opinion. It's actually the first officially localized BL game since Enzai and Absolute Obedience in 10 so years! Mangagamer has a good info page about it, I definetely recommend it if you're not put off by big bara men (only two routes anyway.) Otherwise there's two normal twinks, Hiroyuki being pretty gr8 made me cry for two hours


No. 20746

THIS FUCKING SERIES. God, I enjoyed them so much.

No. 20747

File: 1457467867461.png (Spoiler Image,717.88 KB, 650x517, image.png)

Anybody else have the softest of spots for long hair?

No. 20748

Hell yes, anon.

No. 20749



No. 20750

File: 1457471295477.jpg (59.71 KB, 496x650, 77-vc04.jpg)

oh man, make that hair black and I'm sold

is there any good yaoi with long black haired guys? I've read all the vincent valentine and hellsing yaois of course, but I want moar

No. 20751

File: 1457473029759.jpg (Spoiler Image,52.01 KB, 637x476, enzai1.jpg)

This isn't even the worst stuff in the game.

No. 20752



No. 20753

File: 1457476615074.jpg (Spoiler Image,124.47 KB, 800x600, valentine's day.jpg)

I raise you a Hadaka.


No. 20754

File: 1457476986503.jpg (72.15 KB, 640x480, tumblr_muvvmmzaw91s9z966o1_128…)

Did anyone ever play Silver Chaos? It was my first VN ever and I completely fell in love with it. I haven't played it in a long time but I have fond memories. I don't think I ever got around to playing the second one.

No. 20755

File: 1457480251144.jpeg (Spoiler Image,151.21 KB, 640x480, image.jpeg)

I'm just romancing my gentle prince.

No. 20756

I can watch Vallewida get violated again and again. I loved the game more, but the deep throating scene in the anime was A+

No. 20757

File: 1457493628967.png (725.48 KB, 650x517, image.png)

I never thought in the whole of my life I'd find someone else who would understand my love of Vallewida let alone did I think I'd be even like…discussing it outside of the confines of my brain. Thank you anon.

No. 20758

My ex told me yesterday that he'd been involve in some gay stuff since he broke up with me. I know I should need to get over him, but it only made me want him back more. I've always fantasized about watching my boyfriend make out with other guys. Wah, I feel like I'm missing out on my dream yaoi boyfriend.

No. 20759

I have the same kink and I feel really guilty about it. One, because I'm already annoyed at the glorification of "lesbians" in media (and I'm not even a lesbian) and two, because it just feels gross that I might be objectifying some gay guy.

(yeah I know, go back to tumblr…)

No. 20760


No. 20761



>thinking BL is in any way comparable to actual gay guys and objectifying them


No. 20762

File: 1457554636798.jpg (Spoiler Image,57 KB, 500x211, tumblr_npgk3wDojD1t0oz8yo2_500…)

getting the fujo train back on its tracks

No. 20763

File: 1457554747024.jpg (121.94 KB, 700x1001, tumblr_nad4zse8mE1tjthsxo2_128…)

Someone mentioned Crimson Spell and it's exactly the content I want more of.

No. 20764

File: 1457554762307.jpg (92.98 KB, 500x413, tumblr_lfguucXw641qab5xpo1_500…)

homolust is fiiiiiine.

who else /oldschoolfujo/ here?

this post spoke to me:


No. 20765

sometimes I wish I had a dick so I could make cute boys choke on it…..

No. 20766

File: 1457554821686.jpg (Spoiler Image,129.25 KB, 500x506, tumblr_o05oi4DO8U1t0oz8yo1_500…)

dubcon a best con tho who's with me

No. 20767

File: 1457554926622.jpg (172.52 KB, 579x579, kawoshin1-2003.jpg)

Seriously take your off topic shit to another thread.

No. 20768

Man I remember when GW shipping was the shit. Had a friend who had never watched the anime yet still shipped Heero and Duo like hardcore and went on long tirades about how canon they are.

Also Inuyasha/Sesshoumaru and Legato/Vash were one of the bigger ones back then too.

No. 20769

File: 1457555124560.jpg (489.37 KB, 1200x1600, sapporo-317.jpg)

I once went to a kiosk in the mall to buy bootleg anime tapes (in the late 90s) and the girl there was talking to me about how the english translators had dubbed the canon gay out of Gundam Wing. She was just absolutely convinced it was lost in translation or something.

I mean, they really didn't help matters posting such illustrations as pic related. Fujos will always go nuts over mostly male-cast anime anyway.

No. 20770

File: 1457555312541.jpg (55.92 KB, 472x300, tumblr_inline_msjveyA4xZ1qz4rg…)

Some of the official artwork is undeniably pandering, that's for sure.

No. 20771


calm down, you guys sound like robots lol

No. 20772

Didn't the creators admit that GW was meant to pull in female fans/fujoshi? At any rate…it worked…

No. 20773

kill yourself. mods please ban.

No. 20774

3x4 baby, my first ship.

No. 20775

File: 1457567333359.jpg (183.45 KB, 814x982, request__vincent_and_sephiroth…)

Stop dating filthy 3d you wouldn't have issues then, you brought it upon yourself

No. 20776

File: 1457567962109.png (1.14 MB, 1000x750, shuuneki.png)

I loved 3x4 but quickly grew to prefer 1x3….but frankly 3xall.

Got into Tokyo Ghoul almost exclusively for pic related. I like the dubcon/yandere elements of their relationship in and out of canon. Don't care for the series outside of the first manga series.

No. 20777

File: 1457569052539.jpg (159.41 KB, 800x600, lUjsQMa.jpg)

Anyone here played Kuro no Tsuki ? I can't believe I wasted hours on that piece of shit of a VN and still not have at least one good memory from it.

No. 20778

Oh god. The trouble I got into for wathing gravitation as a wee 12 year old weeblet

No. 20779

What got you guys into BL?

No. 20780

File: 1457631883207.jpg (95.64 KB, 820x499, Final.Fantasy.VII.full.280336.…)

A fanfic I read. I was obsessed with reading every single quality ff7 fanfic, and some of them happened to be yaoi and BL. I enjoyed them and have ever since.

No. 20781

File: 1457634461930.jpg (693.65 KB, 2084x1400, Antique.Bakery.full.1242460.jp…)

Fumi Yoshinaga manga. I knew about BL in middle school because a friend liked shipping and fanfics but I did't really like any of the series they were interested in (Gravitation, Loveless, Kingdom Hearts etc).

No. 20782

>Antique Bakery
fffuuuuuck yes anon

No. 20783

OHHHHH was this the one that was scratch and sniff? We had one at the library and you could smell strawberries on the cover

No. 20784

Two words: Gundam Wing.

My friend had a GW poster in his room that caught my eye. I decided to look it up and found a lot more than I bargained for…

No. 20785

That's the one! It also has a great live-action movie from Korea called Antique.

No. 20786

File: 1457646661569.jpg (104.58 KB, 401x594, 45716681_p25.jpg)

I tried my best to deny my budding fujoshism for years but when I finally came through it was with Hamsteak, embarrassing I know. Too much pairing bait and disgusting fanart. It's also what got me into age difference/incest ships, still can't give those up.

No. 20787

File: 1457647323830.jpg (58.61 KB, 368x500, 0gSHP7e.jpg)

What's the deal with Dramatical Murder? It seems to be kinda popular.

No. 20788

It's popular because
>has a lot of characters that dick the MC
>very high production values for a BL game
>setting/aesthetic the younger crowd was into at the time
>one of the first BL games to get a decent translation in years

That being said the guys and story aren't that great, which is kind of disappointing when everything else in the game is pretty decent.

No. 20789

I really enjoyed some of the character developments, especially Clear's and Noiz's.
I guess I have low standards then

No. 20790

File: 1457652955770.jpg (460.64 KB, 1277x956, shiki-12.jpg)

Buhcause tumblr
The characters are cute though. But i'll take togainu no chi anyday

please rec me some mango/novels with similar art style and hot ukes+semes like this+setting too

No. 20791

Have you read Acid Town yet?

No. 20792

The only VN I know with the same setting as TNC is CAGE -open-. It's an ugly doujin game but the story and characters are fucking amazing for some reason. The music is great too. Video related. It's probably my second favorite BLVN despite the ugly chins, would recommend.

No. 20793


Christ I meant to quote >>139516

No. 20794

Thnxs so much,I'll definitely check them out!

if anyone knows similar stories+art dont hold back,rec it!


They're so cute. Are they a somewhat confirm couple?

No. 20795

Touya/Yuki is canon :) I love that CLAMP wrote their romance into CCS but holy hell do I feel old now.

If you want to read about it, http://gekidasa.net/touyaxyuki/ is a great resource. I can't believe it's still up. Anyone here remember the days where we were all making "shrines" to our fave anime?

No. 20796

Ahh thanks anon for confirming this!I was a little confused with that haha.
Also i didn't knew that website exist!now I can dig deeper into their lives

Also did anyone read X1999? It's a shounen ai by CLAMP thats long due for an update cries I personally thought the story was good but can be confusing since it has some ties with CLAMP other stories

No. 20797

Anyone else completely obsessed with live action BL movies? I hope it's ok to discuss them even though they're 3DPD. I think I've seen every single asian gay movie at least twice.
The most recent ones that I really loved were Jinroh Shokei Game and it's sequel (prequel) Killing Curriculum. They're depressing as hell though, I must've cried over Niina x Taiga for weeks.

No. 20798

Thanks for reminding me that I needed to catch up on this, anon! I feel like this volume is going to end with no fucking again, which simultaneously makes me happy and sad.

No. 20799

File: 1457749599892.jpg (359.22 KB, 1024x768, Junjou.Romantica.full.255048.j…)

Why has no one mentioned Junjou Romantica yet? It's like my all time favorite

No. 20800

I love that VN so much lol

No. 20801

Literally nothing good about that garbage except sakurai takahiro.

No. 20802

because it's awful, same with Sekai-ichi Hatsukoi.

I only semi enjoyed Hiro and Nowaki's storyline, everyone else was terrible

No. 20803

This breaks my cold dying heart. I love them both. However, I literally only care about one of the relationships, Usagi and Masaki, but it doesn't make it bad.

No. 20804

I-if it makes you feel any better I think most other BL posted ITT are trash too.

No. 20805

Have you read any of Harada's manga I personally liked sumomo

Anybody read Hako no naka? It's a novel by Narise Konohara It's one of my favorites of all time. Any recommendations similar to this book would be appreciated

No. 20806


Liked it at first but then it became boring and repetitive. It's basically the anime version of fifty shades of grey.

No. 20807


Loved Sekaiichi Hatsukoi but again the author is a slow bitch, she concentrated too much on fucking Yokozawa and Kirishima (boring). I just want… BANGS FIST I just want Ritsu to say I love you just ONCE

No. 20808

>"b-baka I hate you!"
>cut to view of the sky

blue balls the anime, I can't deal

No. 20809

Oh god Hako no Naka yessss! That shit destroyed me, I loved it.

No. 20810

Yeah it does get kind of tiring, but I think that's the part I really like about it maybe. >>139533
I have to rewatch it but I do like that one also.

No. 20811

File: 1457842556496.jpg (75.02 KB, 892x644, Grvi.jpg)

Gravitation was my first yaoi. And it'll be forever in my heart

No. 20812

Not the other anon but I'd definitely recommend Harada for that sort of thing too. They also write some wicked funny comedy stories, it's kind of jarring compared to all the yandere/rapist/stalker related stuff they make.

No. 20813

I remember being 10 and watching this with the doors closet when my dad was out. I was super paranoic and excited, I thought it was some kind of porn lol
good memories, listening to the opening feels like a time travel

No. 20814

Yess same! I felt like it was porn too so I'll always turn it off if someone comes around. I watched it On-Demand so I was basically in the living room w the semi-sex scenes. It was super awkward. But because of this, I started down this really long rabbit hole.

No. 20815

Same here, I have an artbook and CD I bought forever ago buried in my closet. The soundtrack is fucking great, I still listen to it.

No. 20816

Can some anon please tell me what are the manga in op's glasses. Especially the one in her left lens with the cutie with black hair that looks like he's getting his ear licked.

No. 20817

whoops I saged it sorry for thisbumps

No. 20818

UMPH i can't wait!

No. 20819

Because it's shit and actual good BL stuff keeps getting overshadowed by it. Aren't they on season 4 or something? I enjoyed some of season 1, but it's so boring.

No. 20820

It's actually a really good game that got translated immediately. It has a lot of routes and characters and pretty good sex scenes.
Especially everything containing Trip and Virus- best characters.

No. 20821

I found the story kind of shit and Aoba quite annoying as a MC, but yeah the porn was good. Especially re:connect, that mental breakdown man. I still think it's N+C's weakest title, it doesn't even come close to Lamento or Sweet Pool.

No. 20822

Lamento is definitely the best storyline wise. Weakest with porn, however…Sweet Pool?I just couldn't get into it.

No. 20823

Besides Noiz I liked them the most too but I was kind of disappointed that they weren't siblings or something like cousins pretending to be siblings. Maybe it was N+C just being tongue and cheek about incest being so common in hentai but it would've been a huge guilty pleasure.

No. 20824

Lamento best? I don't know, that's kinda the one I couldn't get into. I gave up at the first sex scene with Bardo, just couldn't make it any further. I'll probably try it again at some point soon though


ViTri were cuties for sure! But am still pissed they spoilers ended up giving Ren Sei's body instead of somehow keeping Ren's body from Scrap or w/e it was. I liked him more buff. Sei just looked like too much of a fruit to me

No. 20825

You can't start Lamento with Bardo.
Asato → Rai → Bardo
Rai → Bardo → Asato

No. 20826

I guess in terms of storyline it might have not been the best choice but truthfully he was the only guy I found attractive so I was very excited to go his route first. Well, if I try again I'll start fresh with Rai or Asato for sure

No. 20827

B-But Bardo is my favorite.

No. 20828

File: 1458073548751.jpg (271.34 KB, 800x988, C1.jpg)

I'm with you, anon. Drunk/high dubcon is especially top tier for me.


Google imaging 'death note' as a wee 12 year old. Stumbled across a deviantArt LxLight comic with a link to the fic it was based on in the description. From that moment on forever corrupted.


I read this! Didn't the author also write some weird fucking jungle island foot fetish book? My friend bought it at a con and made me read it to her on the car ride back, neither of us were prepared for when the MC started licking the fat guy's toes.

No. 20829

Lmfao fuck me, I think I know the novel you mean. It wasn't really foot fetish, more like fat or loser fetish in general, where they both get stuck on an island. The guy also has phimosis. There's a happy ending with the guy becoming a wine taster of some sort. The name was Don't Cry Mama. I've read it too, found it p good.

…and fucking hell, you're right, it's the same author for both! I never realized! Jesus, I can't believe it. Both novels are so crazy different.

No. 20830


had me dying

that is literally the anime

No. 20831

I remember loving fanart of these two and reading shitty fanfics of how Shuichi felt neglected by his dickhead boyfriend and wanted to kill himself. Jfc.

No. 20832

File: 1458089190079.jpg (109.84 KB, 761x739, DSC_0049.jpg)


I can't believe I thought this was sexy

No. 20833

You are golden, anon. this is the best summary of that damn series.

No. 20834

Ren's body is perfect. They should have kept it. Ugh. I wasn't a fan of Sei's character design at all.

No. 20835

Anon, this may be kinda weird but if you're generally into more buff guys like Ren rather than Sei, maybe you'll like NTY!

No. 20836


No. 20837

File: 1458946096663.jpg (169.77 KB, 747x1204, o012.jpg)

i first watched black butler. got me hooked. i always had a thing for this. now there is a term for it. then i watched kaze to ki no uta. Absolutely fantastic. Best manga and anime. Need more bl im running low

No. 20838

File: 1459024396056.jpg (187.09 KB, 759x1052, cielxsebastian10.jpg)

Kuroshitsuji is great, cielxsebastian is a really classic pairing and the setting / fashion is just my favorite

Oh, and the age difference improves it quite a bit for me…

No. 20839

Yo farmers, What's a good Yaoi Manga with no rape, or too dominant seme. I like the fluffy stuff, with bishounens and cute uke's?

No. 20840

any Ogeretsu Tanaka fans here?

No. 20841

Is there an official translation of kazeki?

No. 20842

File: 1459397824858.jpg (141.87 KB, 1280x720, 1395028901787.jpg)

>tfw no love for bara ever

No. 20843

Source on your pic? Is that Gengoroh or something?

Also this just reminded me I need to go masturbate

No. 20844

File: 1459461175578.jpg (Spoiler Image,75.19 KB, 396x551, https://41.media.tumblr.com/2b…)

I'm with you, anon.

No. 20845

Spoiler that next time anon

No. 20846

File: 1459476891470.png (177.18 KB, 500x280, Theyneedmoreinteraction;-;.png)

D-does my soumako count?

actually I don't think they count but I might be wrong. Outside of Japan this might be considered bara. But in Japan this is nothing.

Any soumako shippers out there?

No. 20847

Never ever let anyone judge you for the things you like. Things like fics and awkward fan arts have become pretty low hanging fruit for shitty comedians.

No. 20848

A little too hardcore for me but damn the guy is hot. Gengoroh's art is goat


Thanks Anon. I hate how fujo stuff is open season for ridicule, when equally bad content of other genres, like fantasy and sci-fi, is usually still respected. Ehh but what can you do.

No. 20849

File: 1459499772395.jpg (10.39 KB, 296x158, 1440059268404.jpg)

A+ taste.

No. 20850

File: 1459569145672.png (272.68 KB, 500x373, tumblr_nldrqwj9Ju1tf6biwo1_500…)

Thank you,so do you!
But fuck, its so hard to find DJs, the only things that I can find is fanfiction or comic minis. But all I really want is mango DJs. It's all I ask for

No. 20851

>tfw start shipping SouMako because of your post
>tfw I can only find 1 DJ and they're only using each other

Life is suffering. :(

No. 20852

I have a huge kink for dubcon/noncon, mindbreaking and petplay but without gore or much painful stuff and focusing mostly on pleasure. Can someone give me recommendations? You find this shit in hentai all the time but as for BL it just feels like it's mostly boring fluff.

No. 20853


Instantly thought of this, I hope it's to your liking? I feel you on BL being boring, it's practically missionary in the dark in comparison to hentai.

No. 20854

File: 1459700840906.jpg (24.56 KB, 300x232, 1395024097272.jpg)

Im sorry anon :'(
I found two other dj's but its not englishreeeeeeee

No. 20855

You are an angel, anon. I'll gladly take more recommendations.

No. 20856

recommend some smut pls.
no bara.
well you can recommend bara for other people, that's cool…

No. 20857

Speaking of bara, (also thank you anon for bumping this thread. I'd actually completely forgotten about it) my big three are Mentaiko, Jiraiya and Tagame but I want to add a few more to my beefcake roster. Any recommendations?

No. 20858

File: 1463418884658.png (31.41 KB, 351x593, sensei.png)

this was good, though short.
'love in motion' by kumota haruko

No. 20859

File: 1463672339921.jpg (247.45 KB, 1000x1407, casteheaven.jpg)

Just finished reading this by Ogawa Chise. Pretty good as far as smut goes.

The high school has an arbitrary caste system put in place by a game organized by the students. The game decides everyone's social "rank" in the school. The longtime "King" is cast down to the lowest rank in the next game.

There are a few stories involved, I like the second one best (pic related). There are some continuity errors from first to second story but you can just overlook them.

There were a few scenes that I would have liked to see and would have made sense in the context (and almost happened…) but weren't there. Lots of dubcon.

Ogawa Chise writes a lot of good smut, though some of it is incest. I'm not usually into that but I've been reading it anyway because I like everything else.

No. 20860

Forgot to mention the title, it's Caste Heaven.

No. 20861

File: 1463731962826.jpeg (104.46 KB, 1280x720, image.jpeg)

Anyone watching Super Lovers? It's sooo cute, I binged watched all the available episodes in one night, it's still ongoing.

No. 20862

File: 1463732694364.jpg (410.85 KB, 1280x720, 1460537874544.jpg)

>kumota haruko
Oh, this bitch. She's great but she absolutely broke my heart last season. I wanted a two dads end so bad.

No. 20863

File: 1463854886774.jpeg (37.78 KB, 499x499, cezjanjc.jpeg)

she likes to do that…
i love her anyway.
i've read and reread most of her works.

No. 20864

I haven't seen it, but it looks too creepy for me. I'm not into shotas though.


Oh dang I forgot I was watching this, I gotta finish it now.

No. 20865

The first couple episodes are kinda creepy because the younger guy is a little kid but it quickly skips forward to when he's in highschool and the older guy is 22

No. 20866

The whole incest-ish pedophilic-ish vibe almost turned me off of watching it, and while it still creeps me out a little, after watching the anime and, currently, reading the manga, i have to say the story is interesting and it's pretty cute in general. The development of the romance is kinda slow but personally i prefer it that way.
Would feel less queasy about it if Ren looked like a 15/16? y/o highschooler like he is instead of a 7 year old tho.

No. 20867

> incest-ish pedophilic-ish vibe

To be fair, that's true for like half the BLs in existence.

No. 20868

more so old or mainstream bl. fringe bl has always been different with more masculine men who look their age, and newer bl is starting to trend that way.

No. 20869

>basic bitch
>mods please ban this person because I don't like what she's saying

>kill yourself

Heed your own advice. God this place really is becoming more like female /r9k/.

No. 20870

Anon that post was from two months ago, there's nothing recent about it.

No. 20871

shit sucks ass. fandom sucks even more, it's basically just a bunch of edgelord teenagers… most of the ships suck i guess too, except bicycle guy and mc

No. 20872

I really hate rape yaoi, I want something that aint like that, anyone got any recommendations? There is too much damn rape in Yaoi

No. 20873

I absolutely adore "tv kun no kimochi". The sex isn't very explicit but it's so warm and fuzzy and it's actually about adults who look cute but still masculine. In con sensual relationships.

No. 20874

File: 1464394356628.jpg (959.18 KB, 2048x1329, 1.jpg)

I like this one too. No underage characters and no rape. Cute story.

No. 20875

File: 1464397289952.jpg (341.06 KB, 800x1178, 3.jpg)

I recently read "conveni-kun" and i absolutely loved it. It's freaking adorable, no rape or anything like that, cute love story with a kick of realism, cute art, both characters are the same age, very small but sweet sex scene… it's a good short and sweet read!

No. 20876

I started watching after I saw your comment and I love it! I'm so mad that I'm already caught up… I also started reading the manga too because I don't feel like waiting for the new episodes. I'm glad there's starting to be more BL being made!

No. 20877

Oh my gosh, Anon. I had no clue that Junko had another Yaoi? I love her so much! I just read it, wish it was longer! RECOMMEND

No. 20878

Speaking of Asumiko Nakamura the anime version of Dokyūsei was subbed and it's really great. The main characters are cute and it also has a nice soundtrack, even Galileo Galilei did the ending theme.

No. 20879

File: 1464755134841.gif (1019.58 KB, 500x270, 5175b6c8-b500-4d29-8fbb-9493a8…)

Seconded so much. It was amazing everything I dreamed and more.

No. 20880

File: 1464755388054.jpg (312.67 KB, 869x1236, i000.jpg)

Also posting more fluffy (no rape, violence or underage) BL recs if anyone prefers that as I do.

Kaeru no prince sama

No. 20881

File: 1464755583142.jpg (231.1 KB, 870x1272, mtt_nyarscans_tv_kun_no_kimoch…)

Terebi kun kimochi is sweet. and has that kind of cute noodle style like doukyuusei

No. 20882

Is that the author of escape journey ? Shit is bomb

No. 20883


Know where I can watch it?

No. 20884

There's a decent quality (not quite potato, but a bit fuzzy) stream on kissanime

Supposedly it's on myreadingmanga, perhaps in a higher quality. but I don't use the site, some of the content on there gives me the skeevies

No. 20885

File: 1464769486177.jpg (975.22 KB, 2500x1062, 1464765485280.jpg)

It's fucking beautiful

No. 20886

I watched it on Anon's recommendation. Fucking amazing, seriously. It's too sweet. My fellow fujoshis, your heart will melt.

No. 20887

No. 20888

Oh God, does anyone else melt at blonde/brunette couples? All of my OTPs match that profile and I hope I'm not alone.

No. 20889

File: 1464807235246.jpg (114.22 KB, 800x640, CjtLIVwUoAEdEIy.jpg)

Not sure my body is ready for the suffering

No. 20890

…I need this in my life

No. 20891

>sex toys

I'm ready for this.

No. 20892

Do any of you watch JGV?

No. 20893

File: 1464881078269.jpg (107.95 KB, 500x500, yy.jpg)


No. 20894

File: 1464882125121.png (14.57 KB, 270x49, Screen Shot 2016-05-30 at 10.4…)


But are you ready for this?

No. 20895

File: 1464885591456.jpg (60.67 KB, 500x573, 3947d2a0959a6285858026c54e03ce…)

Me too anon, me too
Especially on serious characters x goofy sweet characters. Instant heart melt.

No. 20896

occasionally I do

No. 20897

File: 1465092878135.jpg (67.13 KB, 650x766, 1908145d1a99fb69628057499c3a21…)

Is anyone keeping up with 19 days? Thoughts on the latest chapter? Hurts my heart…
They are so cute together.

No. 20898

If we don't get some serious action by the end of the comic I'm gonna be so mad, they're too cute but it moves at a snails pace.

No. 20899


No. 20900

File: 1465330730947.png (83.21 KB, 720x1280, Screenshot_2016-06-07-16-18-31…)

Anon, your link was removed.

No. 20901

Yes, I love it. That last chapter made my heart horny. Though I agree with >>139624

If you're into yuri, Tamen De Gushi is a very similar manhua.


Good lord I loved this movie.


Brunette x Blonde is my favorite. Negative-kun and Positive-kun was adorable.

No. 20902

I just discovered Harada and read as many of her works as I could find that were translated into english and I absolutely love her shit.

Can anyone rec stuff similar? I love that stalker/yandere/rapist stuff. I think Caste Heaven is good too but I wish it wasn't slow af updating.

No. 20903

Fuck man Kuroshitsuji kills me every time. I know the manga is so much better than the anime but I am so weak for Alois Trancy it's goddamn embarrassing.

On another note though so I dont have to sage for OT, who Ai no Kusabi here?

I havent seen a lot of people talk about it because it's more of a novel than anything, but it's still gay as fuck and there's some bishie pics thrown in usually during sex scenes- of which there are a shitton. It's a long read- I'm pretty sure there's like 8 novels by now, but fuck is it worth it.

No. 20904

>who Ai no Kusabi here?
I assume you mean "who likes" GIRL, IT'S MY WHOLE FANTASY I've been a fan since 2010 and literally fap to some fan fiction of it. The sex scenes in the novels are ok, but they're horribly translated, like really, really horrible, like some poetry-esque bullshit.

No. 20905

The new 19 days chapter was hot af but its going way to slowlyy

No. 20906

Looking for something with younger boys, not really shota though, around 12 to 15. Preferably explicit and in realistic style. Anyone got any suggestions?

No. 20907

shiiiit the last couple chapters have been great, I want more already

No. 20908

File: 1466209855350.png (213.9 KB, 800x652, 55041425_p7.png)

Absolutely. He does things to me

No. 20909

Has anyone else read the first volume of Color Recipe? I'm not sure how I feel about it yet. I love Harada's crazy shit but I feel like it's not very creative compared to some of their other manga so far.

No. 20910

I didn't really like it, like I felt it went way quickly… The characters I didn't also get attached to, but the use of colour for their sex scene was hottt I really liked that

No. 20911

Anyone here played No, Thank You!!! ?

No. 20912

Yes and it's my favorite BL game ever.

No. 20913

File: 1468177518480.jpg (139.36 KB, 600x480, 37507375_p3_master1200.jpg)

double posting but who cares

maki best boy (surprisingly) tho i loved hiroyuki as well

No. 20914

File: 1468177968045.png (974.48 KB, 980x735, Screenshot (321).png)

Maki and Hiroyuki are my top faves and their routes wrecked me

pic not related but decisions decisions

No. 20915

File: 1468178644954.jpg (141.68 KB, 400x604, 39631367_p2_master1200.jpg)


yeah their routes….so i honestly teared up a bit. the end of maki's route….it hit me hard…..

ryu's route hit me too. i didn't like him as much as the others (i generally dislike meganes) but by the end of it i felt.

i keep trying to get people to play it but NO ONE WILL because they don't like the character designs. kouichi was a bit too daddy for me but otherwise i don't see what the big deal is. the plot was actually good (for a bl game) and like….it's all around a good game. damn.

if nothing else people should play it because it's the first localized bl game in ages and we need more.

No. 20916

File: 1468209672403.jpg (337.82 KB, 584x780, 56340870_p5_master1200.jpg)

Dude can we like exchange emails or something bc I already like you.

Yeah, I didn't expect much from Ryu's route, but I like how it's the route that reveals a lot of backstory. I honestly didn't expect to tear up towards the end of his route.

idk what's wrong with the character designs but it's a lot better compared to most BL games. i totally get why people don't expect much cuz there's a good amount of porn in there. but there's plot!

No. 20917

bless the parade kamis

No. 20918

this talk has me interested and wow, it looks amazing!! Is it worth the price? (I want to support the team first)

No. 20919

File: 1468215712112.jpg (278.24 KB, 884x848, 37376849_p3_master1200.jpg)

y-yeah i totally made a throwaway please email me lmao


to be honest i pirated it…and then i was so impressed that i paid $50 for a hardcopy after i finished. it's totally worth it.

No. 20920

File: 1468215860169.jpg (252.79 KB, 700x875, 44427871_p0_master1200.jpg)

Oh definitely! The the download version is 39.99 and it takes about 4-6 hours to complete each route.

Btw I'm a newfag and idk how to do that black bar thingy over text

No. 20921

wow wee, I just played through the demo… 100/10 wew.

I don't know who to choose ahhh! So excited to purchase the downloadable version! Thanks anons!

No. 20922

File: 1468224822362.jpg (211.36 KB, 550x798, 51062467_p0.jpg)

in my opinion, this is the best order (for the story) is…



but that's not the one most people suggest. i think most people suggest hiroyuki as the first route and i have to agree. if you're not sure where to start i would just start with him, he's super cute and screams a lot and you get a good idea of how everyone else is.

No. 20923

>this is the best order is…

…nice job.

No. 20924

y-yeah just Hiroyuki's part in the demo made me all hot n bothered wew. But Maki and his huge bod is coming a close second…

No. 20925

File: 1468226535634.jpg (153.82 KB, 800x516, 39631367_p3_master1200.jpg)

i hope you love it! i blew through the whole game in like a weekend (and then proceeded to talk to anyone who would listen about it very one-sidedly) it was so good.

No. 20926

Urghh, I was so close to it finishing downloading but it stopped and now I have to start over… can't wait to get through it anon, bless. This thread has introduced me to so many good bl novels!

No. 20927

Oh man, I almost showed my friend his last sex scene but I chickened out bc my headphones weren't near me and my parents are home. But damn, he was moaning like a pornstar.

No. 20928

god….i had to turn my headphones down when i was playing his route because i didn't want my roommate to hear. he is a loud boy. and i love it.

No. 20929

File: 1468253862402.png (222.1 KB, 521x661, tumblr_nl87s0K4xQ1rpx62uo1_540…)

same. i can't believe he was straight from the beginning and 3 sex scenes in he's thirsting for dick woooo boi

No. 20930

File: 1468254424941.jpg (326.52 KB, 724x523, 56340870_p1_master1200.jpg)

i love a not-gay route like that…and a virgin on top of it all… HEH.

yes please

i want all of the ntys to be happy and comfy.

No. 20931

File: 1468254909843.jpg (272.57 KB, 1051x1380, 56292950_p0.jpg)

i pray for a fandisk

I want a sequel so bad bc there's so much about this story that can be elaborated. i just want moar and there aren't even enough doujins to go around.

No. 20932

File: 1468255353230.jpg (412.71 KB, 1024x768, 36920847_p1_master1200.jpg)

i KNOW… why is the fanbase so fucking small? even on pixiv it's not as big as other ones.

i know they had at one point announced an ova (i think before the game even dropped) but it didn't make the cut i guess. maybe because the dmmd anime sucked so much. for some reason i have the idea that it was super popular because it got an official localization, but maybe it wasn't. i don't know.

i liked the bonus stories in the special edition box but i need more than that.

No. 20933

File: 1468255809677.jpg (Spoiler Image,495.3 KB, 760x1206, 010.jpg)

Gravitation DJ.

No. 20934

File: 1468256117172.jpg (196.54 KB, 727x1042, 45669947_p0.jpg)

Can we just exchange emails? It's been a long time since the Dmmd fandom screwed me over and I need some one to talk abt NTY with. then again i should be thankful that it didnt get popular or else i'll be seeing bs headcanon about haru being trans or smtn

i'd rather not have that being put down my throat and y'all know how tumblr fandoms can be. Let dudes be dudes!

No. 20935

File: 1468256288731.jpg (415.72 KB, 800x561, 42058556_p0_master1200.jpg)

haha yeah i'm the same anon as above in case you are a different anon. anyone can email me if they want.

this thread has been cathartic, i has a lot of pent up feelings about it with no one to talk to haha.

No. 20936

File: 1468259092008.jpg (320.2 KB, 513x729, 37248228_p0.jpg)

I'm the anon before that and I made a temp email. Anyone who hasn't played NTY, plz try the demo. It's really good.

I want to meet more people who are into this game bc tfw no fujo friends

No. 20937

well, i downloaded the game and i'm looking forward to playing it

kek at the game settings asking me where i want the ejaculation location be though

No. 20938


did you know that you can set the body hair to your liking?

No. 20939

File: 1468300783303.png (236.52 KB, 500x508, tumblr_nretplXPln1utrfwjo1_500…)

Anyone else a fan of HQ!!?

I'm worried it's becoming too flavour of the month and it'll disappear quickly, but it's genuinely become my favourite sports anime. For once I don't really have an OTP, and I enjoy seeing the different ships come out of doujins/fic/fanart. It's really interesting to see who people ship different characters.

Plus it's so cute and pure, and there's none of that stupid irrational hatred/rivalry that plagues other sports animes. It's a realistic setting where characters have healthy rivalries but also friendships with people from other teams. I especially love Bokuto and Kuroo's dynamic, as well as Hinata's ability to befriend practically everyone.

No. 20940

hi, yes, HQ fan here. I feel the same way too. i personally love tsukki x yamaguchi, or tsukki x kuroo. and oikawa x iwaizumi. other than that I love the ships.

I think there's nice character development. idk I don't really watch anime so I could be talking out of my ass lol. I haven't finished hq tho, I have a lot of episodes left in the second season, same with free.

No. 20941

I LOVE Haikyuu. I'm almost done the second season and nothing has gotten me so pumped up before. It almost makes me want to join a volleyball club - maybe I should do it.
I just want to see Oikawa cry.

No. 20942

File: 1468337794293.png (414.35 KB, 735x715, tumblr_o4amiiGWk01s138e0o1_128…)

Second Season is really good! The manga is also pretty far ahead if you want to start reading that, but in the current chapters it's getting a bit dramatic.


Same! I remember hating volleyball back in HS because I was too scared of the ball, but now I want to try it again, kek.

What is with Oikawa fans and wanting to see him cry?

No. 20943


I've been considering joining an intramural team next semester. Apparently they're supposed to be more forgiving of beginners. I'm not out of shape, but my weak arms probably can't receive any volleyballs.

And as for wanting to see Oikawa cry… is this a common thing among Oikawa fans? I like him a lot but I want to see his ego brought down a bit. I'm a sucker for seeing arrogant characters getting hit where it hurts.

No. 20944

Hahahaha yeah, it seems to be a common trend with Oikawa fans. They want to see him hurt.

No. 20945

Has anyone read the newest chapter of 19 days? FINALLY! I was waiting for the kiss… Idk how this will progress tho

No. 20946

File: 1472894315392.jpg (327.07 KB, 800x500, 5_b06a.jpg)

One month left. I can't wait for the suffering. Also Seiji's VA is some A++ shit: http://pa-rade.jp/rn9/

No. 20947

This is like 100% my perfect fantasy. I really hope theres an English translation planned to.

No. 20948

File: 1473287370366.jpg (124.37 KB, 986x856, 5556565.JPG)

Anyone got some priest/monk yaoi for me? Can't find anything good.

No. 20949

File: 1473291715946.jpg (97.18 KB, 1334x750, image.jpg)

>Just trying to lurk /g/
>Half naked men mounting each other
God damned fujoshis

No. 20950

Didn't feel the need to spoiler it since you can't see anything. Lol

No. 20951

Woh didn't know about this game. I love the concept of it though, where it's already an established relationship and you choose kinks instead? It seems really cool and original!

I hope it gets translated, I'd love to try it out! I'm not so into blood tho so I'll probably skip the needle one…

No. 20952

>already an established relationship and you choose kinks instead?

Sort of. It's more of a psychological horror type thing. They're best friends who are being forced to participate in an "experiment". One of them has to perform acts of physical violence on other and on the flip side the other has to perform sexual acts on their friend. It sounds like they both agree to opt for the sexual tasks in the (probably misguided) interest of mitigating harm, but I imagine it will backfire spectacularly in the form of psychological trauma they hadn't considered.

You can turn the "gore" display off. It's still described in the text, but it won't show the CGs for those sections if you have that option set.

No. 20953

O-oh. That's not what I thought it was at all. Weh, it doesn't really sound like something I'd like after all. I'll probably check it out just to see but it sounds a bit dark? I'm surprised that the CGs seem so 'normal' for like a psychological game?

No. 20954


I guess it's a bit deceptive if you can't read the page, but, yeah, definitely not for everyone. It looks pretty obvious to me in the CGs, but maybe it's just because I know the premise.

No. 20955

Haha yeah, the photos in the Special section look so couple-y so I assumed they were an established couple, and I thought the drinking/bar CGs were the beginning of the game and they were like "Lets go to a love hotel and have weird fetish sex woo" lol

No. 20956


I don't really see shades of Hadaka in it. Most people have been comparing it to euphoria.

No. 20957

If anyone's interested in reading In These Words and other miscellaneous works by Guilt Pleasure, I dumped my collection on 8chan's /y/.


I know these comics are a bitch to find, so I thought I'd do the fujoshits a favor by sharing. :^)

No. 20958

File: 1476214184930.jpg (55.79 KB, 500x436, I am ready.jpg)

Thanks anon!

No. 20959

What got you ladies interested in this genre? I got so into BL in middle school when I was like 13 and I honestly can't put my finger on why…

No. 20960

I was severely obssesed with RikuxSora when i was like 10/12, decided to venture the internet to search for cute pictures of them to save, instead found a bunch of incredibly lewd doujinshis which i, obviously, read and ejoyed thoroughly. That brought my attention to BL/yaoi in general, and here i am, about 10 years later and a digusting fujo. Ahhh, the days.

No. 20961

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Who's watching Yuri on Ice? It's a good time to be a fujo.

No. 20962

i've heard people saying that they think the russian will die. i really hope not.

No. 20963

It's good so far, but I'm not really interested in the main couple. I don't like crybaby, overwhelmed characters like the Jap Yuri. The Russian Yuri is a cutie though, I hope he's involved more.

No. 20964

Gundam Wing, year 2000. 3x4, never looked back.


Was that because Yuuri referred to him in past tense or something? I think it was just a misunderstanding of the translation

No. 20965

reee why am I not banned?(ok)

No. 20966

because of homophobia in media, and the fact that the dog named after victor died.
but the fact that it's a sports anime and that victor is based off of a real life person makes me hopeful that they'll get a happy ending, and maybe we'll have something close to a canon gay ending.

No. 20967

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Past tense is pretty hard to get wrong in a translation, but it was narration anyway which is usually past tense.

But it was that in combination with the fact that he looked sad about his future and he's dropping everything to go mentor someone who could replace him, plus some minor things (the dog named after him dying). It's probably just retirement, but death would have a lot of dramatic effect so people ran with it.

No. 20968

Shit, I hope he doesn't die. Maybe he has an injury he knows he can't hide for much longer.

No. 20969

>Past tense is pretty hard to get wrong in a translation, but it was narration anyway which is usually past tense.

Nah, actually tense is pretty hilariously inconsistent in Japanese compared to the way it's treated in English. You can switch back and forth between past/non-past in narration without really suggesting any temporal shift about the actions being described (often tense is used more to suggest the immediacy to the speaker or situation than chronology).

No. 20970

File: 1477374354596.gif (Spoiler Image,1.85 MB, 540x312, eyewitness.gif)

Any of you fujo's dabble in 3DPD? There's a new crime drama called Eyewitness (based on Øyevitne) with two cute homo leads.

No. 20971

This has my interest.
Where can I watch it?

No. 20972

Damn, girl

No. 20973

It airs on USA network, you could probably find it online. I haven't seen it yet but the Norwegian version is on youtube.

No. 20974

File: 1479455128607.jpg (96.86 KB, 1920x1080, [HorribleSubs] Yuri!!! on Ice …)

Love won!

No. 20975

I can't believe there are actually people on tumblr arguing that it was only a hug.

No. 20976

To be fair, it is hard to see and so many anime have messed with us this way. Making it seem like they are about to kiss only for the 'suprise' hug come on screen. We have been hurt too many times.

No. 20977

Saw a post going around that the creator made a tweet heavily implying it was a legit kiss. Can't seem to find it but I'm sure it's floating around somewhere.

I'm not the biggest fan of the show (the animation bugs me because of how varied it is) but this made me want to keep watching because it isn't pandering for once. This is pretty much what we wanted Free! to be.

No. 20978

File: 1479528892651.jpg (121.96 KB, 1920x1080, [HorribleSubs] Yuri!!! on Ice …)

Yeah, she did:
>- Kubo Mitsurou, the creator of YOI, just after the episode aired this week (x)

Anyway, I'm hoping the animation is improved in the BDs since they obviously care about it but lack the time/resources to perfect it. In the meantime, it's easily worth it for this.

No. 20979

I haven't watched Yuri on ice yet but is it any good guys? I might watch it over xmas break when Ive got proper time otherwise Ill just slack with my university work.

It looks alright so far

No. 20980

Classic cheesy sports anime. Animation is weirdly inconsistent, it looks like 5 different studios are animating it. It's getting better with each episode but I'm still put off by the animation during the skating (hopefully with a bigger budget it will look better)

Characters are cute, they're sticking with the "everyone gets along" sports anime route which I've always been a big fan of instead of the irrational hatred/rivalry route.

Uhh.. Yeah that's about it. There's only 5 eps or so out so it wouldn't take too long to watch tbh.

No. 20981

I love it. The animation is admittedly inconsistent though. I think the studio bit off more than they could chew considering the premise

But I love everything else. The music is awesome and every character is pretty distinct and non tropey for the most part. I like how they all have little distinguishing flaws (eye lines and ugly crying faces) idk it makes them more real

No. 20982

>I don't like crybaby, overwhelmed characters like the Jap Yuri.

well damn, he turned out to be a lot different than I thought. I still want more Russian Yuri!

No. 20983

It's okay but frankly I'm disappointed because the skating segments look like shit compared to the first two episodes and people are so vehement about defending them.

>m-muh scheduling

>geez it's not bad you're just being anal
>just wait for the BD they'll fix everything
>do you not understand how difficult it is to animate motion

Like, this is the reason why studios can go out of their way with releasing garbage quality - because they know people are still going to eat it up. Same reason why Utapri keeps getting crappy seasons since the studio knows its fans are going to spend thousands of yen on the BDs to get event tickets. MAPPA can just make a few detailed shots of guys putting their faces next to each other or grabbing asscheeks every episode and it raises YOI's rank on Amazon, but the skating scenes continue to get shafted.

No. 20984

It's extremely fun. It's fast paced and funny with a lot of attention to detail with the sport, a good OST, and relatively mature characterization/interaction since the MCs are adults. The MC develops thoroughly, and there's a real gay romantic subplot with lots of cute/sexy moments.

The animation is the biggest let down but it still has it's moments.

No. 20985

Maybe I'm just used to anime looking like shit because the animation drops don't bother me. I hope they do fix it in the BD because everything else is top notch imho

No. 20986

fuck this thread now has me using BL games to learn japanese.

i swear i will end up with a vocabulary consisting solely of homosexual sadomasochistic terms

No. 20987

I'm just butthurt after seeing the figure skating animation in Death Parade and Endless Night.

No. 20988

File: 1481943733741.jpg (192 KB, 1200x677, yuri-on-ice-episode-10-recap-e…)

Going back to Yuri on Ice, but wew they went there. Finally an actual non-pandery sports anime.

No. 20989

Ugh this show looks delicious. If I start watching I know I'll get completely obsessed

No. 20990

u wot

No. 20991

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This manga made me realize how much I love ugly uke/ gorgeous seme love stories. The confusion and insecurity in the ugly duckling is so endearing to me. I'm sad I can't find many other stories like this. "Out of Control" is said to be similar, and some of the art even looks vaguely traced from His Favourite, but the tone and pacing and set up aren't jiving with me.

I love His Favourite but I wish it had more sex/love scenes and I wish the update speed wasn't glacial.

No. 20992

same I remember people taking the piss outta it and honestly, I dont care. I just wanna watch a show

"but muh quality"

k, youve got Haikyuu and Free to bait you over, have fun with them fml.

Basically they arent queer baiting, they arent shying away from it so straight girls can imagine themselves banging the characters, liking guys isnt ~forbidden~ for the characters. It's still got Chris for the YAOIII GUIIIZZZ women to cream themselves over but even he's been hinted at for being in a relationship.

tldr-they aint baiting.

No. 20993

I don't think you understand what other anon was saying with pandering. The series is obviously targeted at the same type of women into other sports anime and the fujos that buy tons of show merchandise.

It's funny that almost showing two guys kissing is enough to make girls drop hundreds of dollars on keychains, magazines and underwear.

No. 20994

Yeah but it's not pandering in the whole "Oh will they ever kiss? Here's 20 episodes of long hugs and lingering looks and innuendo but THEY'RE NOT GAY LELELELLELE"

Like for once it's there. It's canon. Yeah fujos are going crazy and spending tons of money but it'll hopefully show companies and stuff that actual yaoi/gay shit can succeed and we will get less queerbaiting and actual queer shit.

No. 20995

Honestly this show is so cute and it's so sad that it was only 12 episodes, I hope we'll get a season 2 with at least 24 episodes. It's really fucking cute

No. 20996

>"Oh will they ever kiss? Here's 20 episodes of long hugs and lingering looks and innuendo but THEY'RE NOT GAY LELELELLELE"
Maybe I just don't watch enough anime, but I don't remember any recent fujo show that got popular being like this. At all.

Do you also believe free! wasn't pandering?

No. 20997

They know queerbaiting/Yaoi will work with the recent boom in woman aimed shows and realising hey, women have money too.
What I hope it will put forward is gay relationships can happen in anime that aren't girls or "the stereotype yaoi" shit, it's a normal relationship lmao.

Same, hoping for a season 2, they are teasing it and I'd be up for it. A lot of people have started saying "oh it's a phase", which yeah…anime is like flavour of the month. Don't get on a high horse and act like your too good for it to look cool.(tfw you have an irl friend who is like this)

Free is bait af but it was fun.

No. 20998

I went looking for His Favorite but had trouble finding scans, so I clicked a video expecting scans with bad pop music playing in the background. But it was actually the japanese drama cd synced-up with a translated version of the scans. It's like watching a still-picture sub.


No. 20999

thank youuuuuuuuuu

No. 21000

wow that's really neat!
http://www.mangago.me/read-manga/aitsu_no_daihonmei/ has scans up to the 7 vol and
are the latest. they cost about 6 bucks ea, but i'm willing to support sublime because they picked up a lot of dead titles and work with the publishers.

No. 21001

File: 1483483140075.jpg (158.9 KB, 650x650, 20160401001191_0.jpg)

anyone else reading killing stalking?

No. 21002

File: 1483490205611.png (9.29 KB, 1324x102, fujoshi's daily lifes.PNG)

What are some good websites to discuss fujo stuffs? Tumblr is shit, twitter doesn't work for that kind of things and I'm a bit bored of /a/ these days. This thread is good but a bit slow. I'm fine with anything as long as I don't have to talk about pairings to 14 years old brats or SJW retards tbh. It sucks to be a lonely fujo. To stay on topic, I really want to read gourmet no fukurami but there are no scans so far, or am I looking in the wrong places?

No. 21003

I went here just to talk about it too lol. I'm at chapter 12, I find it creepy but okay to read if you acknowledge the fact that the thing between the two protagonists isn't love, just abuse. It's a guilty pleasure for me but I really like the art style

No. 21004

have you read some of harada's gintama doujins? this really reminded me of it.


No. 21005

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I miss live journal. The quality of fandom discussion there was so much higher even though it was a hotbed for drama. The /a/ threads for YOI are full of autism and tumblr is self explanatory.

I kinda miss being a high school aged weeb because I've been a fujo for so long (since age 13 tbqh) and I used to have fujo friends back when we were just called yaoi fan girls. Now all my friends are normalfags and I have nobody to sperg out with.

No. 21006

Hah, me too. I see a lot of people who get really shocked by it but I think Harada desensitized me.

No. 21007

File: 1483586958217.gif (1.99 MB, 245x220, byvX0Zc.gif)

same, anon

No. 21008

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I'd rather not talk to underage retarded fujos and be all by myself tbh. But I'll keep these forums in mind just in case I change my mind, thanks.

I miss lj too but I feel like I didn't get to use it as much as other people my age. I mostly lurked a bunch of communities and never made an account because my English at the time wasn't good enough to talk to others.
>it was a hotbed for drama
Well, tumblr seems way worse but without the advantages lj had. But like I said, I didn't use it all that much compared to many of you guys so I'm sure I missed most of the drama.
I guess I'll stick to my few rl fujo friends but we don't share the same fandoms and tastes at all.

No. 21009


Ljdrama was hilarious though. People be photoshopping LOTR actors in thier bedrooms and even there was the Sarah saga. Tumblr drama is just pathetic and infuriating. And today's fujobabbys are so spoiled. The awful mediocre tokyopop BL I used to read man.

No. 21010

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Anyone here keeping up with/reading Acid Town? I love the story and art but the ch come painfully slow and it's killing me.
It updated recently i think, but i already forgot the whole story kek

Oh god same, at my age it's not as "normal" still being a fujo so it's more difficult to sperg to irl people about it (or online for that matter). I miss being like 10 and exchanging shitty DJs with my friends like it was normal and discussing them on the web. Now i can't have a single discussion that is not garbage.
Most places in the internet right now are shit to discuss BL since comment sections are full of 14 y/o and most independent places are tumblr-tier cancer.

No. 21011

File: 1483668133940.png (137.5 KB, 540x262, killingstalkingimage1.png)

Fuuuuck yes! It's been awhile since I've been invested in a comic. Love the art style, and both main characters; I'm so excited to see how it'll end. Only problem is the yoi/tumblr fanbase that won't stop fucking posting about how "edgy" they are for reading it, or how the main relationship is "toxic" and "abusive" (no shit?). It is surprising that it would be even popular over there considering the content?

No. 21012

I read it yesterday after seing the thread and was boring af, everything was predictable.

No. 21013

Lol, I certainly am now, thanks for the new read anon. I'm liking it a lot so far. Does anyone have any other suggestions of stuff sort of in the same vein as this?

No. 21014

I miss the old days of LJ. I've been on Tumblr since 2010, and it's just continuing to get more and more shitty. I feel like all of the people my age have just been abandoning it, leaving it to the mercy of teenagers. I'd like to think that they all left to have normal adult lives, and are happy now. I'm 25, and dabbling in "fandom culture" just seems strange at this point.

No. 21015

I left some months ago for twitter, I'm sure that's the case for a lot of people. I left tumblr more because of the shitty ads and the porn bots following my blog more and more though, since I learned to not hesitate to block annoying people. If you want to leave tumblr because it's too shitty for you you should use tumblripper to download all the pictures you reblogged.

No. 21016

>ukeboi has the same retarded worried crying expression on every page and also literally crying all the time
>wearing a goddamn skirt


The story is interesting and the art is nice, though. But where are my mangos with two regular looking dudes? I'm sick of one always being the girly crying skinny uguuu femboi being put in girl's clothes. It's the opposite of what I like.

No. 21017

Read it few nights ago, not really my 'thing' but i thought the story could be interesting. It was to an extent and then it got super predictible, i loooove the art regardless but it looks the author has no other works?

No. 21018

>then it got super predictible
>ukeboi has the same retarded worried crying expression on every page and also literally crying all the time

Yeah, that's what annoys me about it too. If the guys suddenly started beating the shit out of each other or something it'd be interesting (or of it delved into their time in he military, or brought back the cops, or did anything else than what it is right now really) but it turned into the protagonist acting like a beaten wife even though he started out as a weirdo stalker. It had potential and melted into a cliche edgy shoujo story with gay dudes.

No. 21019

You guys are pretty much pedos. I understand if you're angry at this but I've played a few eroges and had to have sex with underage boys because I like Yaoi and have some type of autism. We need all the accomplishments! There should be more Yaoi releases towards the west but they deny that these are 14 year olds when Jast tries to normalize them.

No. 21020

Literally what the fuck are you trying to say

No. 21021

> turned into the protagonist acting like a beaten wife even though he started out as a weirdo stalker.

It would have been interesting if the protagonist was as fucked-up mentally as the beginning hyped him to be. I'd be down for two sick fucks trying to outsmart and outdo each other and having weird homolust over it, instead of the "psychopath edgelord vs stockholm syndrome uke" torture porn it turned out to be.

Also the art looks like Junji Ito tried to make a BL doujin of that guy from Attack on Titan and the YOI guy with the uncontrollable ejaculation problem.

No. 21022

I'm trying to read more novels this year, anyone have any gay shit to recommend?

Sci-fi/fantasy would be nice, especially if there's a decent plot. I recently pushed myself through Captive Prince, and was severely disappointed. (I love "political" ASOIAF-esque fantasy, but I couldn't stand the weak world building and constant cringey shit.)

No. 21023

first thing to pop up in my head - NO.6. There's a non-official translation by Nostalgia on 9th Avenue.

No. 21024

File: 1483831369713.jpg (181.25 KB, 1133x1600, IMG_1827.JPG)

Since KillingStalking seems to have tickled some fancies (it was new to me) thought id share something thats very next level in terms of art and story…however i dont think there has yet to be an english translation which sucks balls for non weebs or koreaboos. (Only translation i know of is korean)
Uh but getting a gist of the story from imagery alone wouldnt be hard and tbh its total visual porn to me (not as in sexual but the art style is pretty dope)

No. 21025

File: 1483846345718.jpg (44.62 KB, 468x895, dee.jpg)

Not a big fan of BL just cruising through catalog then I see this shit.

No. 21026

My hunch is that it's some gender reversed copypasta.

No. 21027


Gotten into Killing Stalking myself and its pretty good, interesting plot but its so fucked in the head. Am impressed so far though!

The art style isn't the typical shitty animu one either its kinda realistic but still animu like? Its pretty good

No. 21028


The most boring shit I've read in a long time, desu. Babby's first softcore psychological horror BL for the kind of fangirls who say shit like "IM SO FUCKED UP FOR READING THIS LOLOL" and "sangwoo is my cute little psycho uwu".

No. 21029

A girl I follow on IG said this exact thing about Killing Stalking. kek (She also loves Yuri on Ice, obviously.)

No. 21030

I am a little salty that none of his works are translated. I am sucker for realistic manga, and I love fucked up stories, but its so hard to find mangas with both. Especially bara

No. 21031

File: 1486947883855.png (666.86 KB, 600x892, IMG_2286.PNG)

(Anon who posted the manga here)
I am actually vinegar over how theres not more from him / in this genre of bara (and bara manga in general) that gets picked up for translation. Just like you anon im a filfy animal for this type of shit.
If you have any fave bara mangas id love to check them out (if i havent already read em who knows)

Meanwhile to keep on track Mentaiko/Itto is deff on the mainstream side of bara/duh yaoiz but i still fucking love the works that have come out;;;;; senseless bara porn is always tasty af

No. 21032

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does anyone else remember being 13 and lying about their age and downloading hetalia doujins off of livejournal comms
no shame, it was such a good series for yaoi back in the day

No. 21033

I remember all the secret club stuff you had to do in order to join the groups, it really aggravated me because I only made an LJ account to get certain doujins.

No. 21034


I still have mine. All 300+ of 'em.

No. 21035

OH my God yes!!!! I loved aph doujins

No. 21036

File: 1488715870398.png (356.5 KB, 680x378, shellisaqt.png)

If we're going to talk about webtoons, then I recommend checking this one out.

No. 21037

this shit is boring af. dont read it niggas, yall just gonna waste yall precious time

No. 21038

>ukeboi has the same retarded worried crying expression on every page and also literally crying all the time
>wearing a goddamn skirt

this lil nigga is like Okane Ga Nai's Ayase bitch who cries all the time but cant stop loving his abusive giant ass hands seme

No. 21039

I read that last night actually anf it was pretty lame and random. Cliche and boring tbh

No. 21040

I think we can safely say that CLAMP ruined our lives.

No. 21041

Tokyo Babylon fucked my shit up when I was a young weeaboo.

No. 21042

Same, anon. Fuck this loner fujo life.
Also baldfat lives forever.

No. 21043

Same anons.
I just want a place where to discuss my baldfat in peace ; _ ; /yoi/ is getting too retarded lately even for /yoi/'s standards.

No. 21044


It's so painfully specific but I'd kill to have a few adult fujobros. Maybe because I'm old as shit and have a career and bills but Baldfat and BL manga is one of the last things I've kept from my teenage days.

Shit I remember obsessively following translations for Yami no matsuei and other fujobait shoujo on lj. I hear it's finally off hiatus but nobody in the English speaking world remembers it.

No. 21045

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I'm surprised that nobody in this thread has talked about DRAMAtical Murder. Nitro+Chiral is releasing a new BL game soon called Slow Damage, do you all think it'll be any good?

No. 21046

whether it is or not, you can expect a horrible pregnant cosplay of it from ash (axel ash, not ana ash)

No. 21047

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No. 21048

I'm worried that Slow Damage will be too edgy. Part of the reason why I was so attracted to dmmd was because of how colorful and different the art was.

No. 21049

ana noiz to go with the pregnant aoba, lets see it happen lmao

No. 21050

Loveless, has been a favorite of mine for nearly 10 years.

No. 21051

File: 1491082412600.png (489.02 KB, 479x760, b2e5d8c7d127024556cf084b5201b4…)

not quite what this thread is about bc it's a non-anime graphic novel but The Less Than Epic Adventures of TJ and Amal is hands-down one of the best bits of gay fiction I've ever read. Started reading for the realistic-yet-slow-burn-heat sex scenes, ended up strung on the actually rather touching and wrenching at points story.

absolutely not the typical yaoi experience, don't expect any pretty boys (but if you're into muscular bottoms, boy is this gonna be your jam), but that ain't a bad thing.

even better: it's finished (for a while now, don't know why i just thought of it after so long) and all free to read online


No. 21052

File: 1491085920711.jpg (96.75 KB, 699x521, SHITsuji.jpg)

Are we just not gonna talk about this masterpiece?

No. 21053

File: 1491092147900.gif (505.41 KB, 540x303, 627ec3e35482a2f769d7ac1af3c1ff…)

>that image
l-lewd, anon-chan

No. 21054

File: 1491093424814.jpg (Spoiler Image,120.06 KB, 800x600, ev_kom019_02.jpg)

Girl, you don't even know

>I'm a sucker for ahegao

No. 21055

I was out of touch with the BL world for many years, but I started playing this because of this thread. It was one of the best things I did last year. That game is hilarious and legendary and it kills me that I don't have anyone to talk about it.

No. 21056

File: 1491104313767.jpg (347.84 KB, 800x752, 534544334433.jpg)

Anyone watching the new season of Attack on Titan? I remember it being so popular 4 years ago.
I loved Erwin and Levi so much.

No. 21057

Yes! I love that it's back now!

No. 21058

I love noncon/rough sex/bdsm/mindbreak all that good shit but tbh this game just wasn't very erotic. It was mostly gross because the scenes were made more grotesque than sexual and it reminded me more of a cult torture porn movie than a sex novel.

No. 21059

lmao these were 100% my exact thoughts when reading it, glad to hear I wasn't the only one. It was so boring and repetitive and the fandom was full of awful edgy teens thinking they're hot shit for reading shittily-written psychological horror for the first time

No. 21060

I didn't even know there was a new season holy shit
I'm into Levi/Eren myself, like ~2 years ago when I was actively in the fandom on tumblr there was a super autistic shipping war against it and our tags were spammed to hell. It was fucking weird, it was the first time I rejoined a ship fandom since my deviantart days around 07-09 so I was so confused by how self-righteous people had gotten with fucking anime shipping

>sage for blog post

No. 21061


Just gonna bump and say I also recommend this, I haven't read it in a few years but what i loved what I read back then

No. 21062

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so I really like killingstalking and last weekend I highly recommended it to a girl I want to be friends with and at first I was worried she'd judge me for its problematic content and after reading this thread I'm worried she's gonna think I'm a basic bitch kek

anyway can anyone recommend any similar psychological/horror/dark yaoi manga?

No. 21063


Ugh I meant to reply to >>21059

No. 21064

Yeah, I read the manga too. The story has really matured throughout the years. And Eruri is a very nice pairing

No. 21065

I like the idea of having a fujo girlfriend and I'm not sure why.

No. 21066

File: 1491463098211.gif (396.09 KB, 359x268, Uh-reaction-gif.gif)

(This is kinda ot but I'm super curious)

Are straight fujos rare? I remember back in my deviantart days occasionally seeing outside people stereotype yaoi fangirls as all being lesbians, and every close fujo friend I've made turned out being some sort of queer. It was actually confusing for 14 year old me at first since I concluded my interest in BL was b/c I was super straight and thought everyone was the same lol

No. 21067

I see this too, still. A part of me thinks they just want to simulate their yaoi "relationship goals." Maybe that's because I knew someone just dating a girl to do couple cosplay with and saying that her relationship is just like Victor/Yuuri and other pairings.

No. 21068

You don't know a lot of fujos do you?

The "fujos are lesbians" meme is so old and based on a tired stereotype that actually finding a fujo girlfriend as a lesbian fujo is terribly hard. In the olden days these "lesbian fujos" were straight girls who were just afraid of contact with men so they turned to their female friends to form a proto-lesbian relationship. Nowadays the "lesbian fujos" are transtrenders trying to present as gay men and preaching about how regular cisgirls liking BL is ~fetishizing homosexuality~ (which they're certainly not doing). So all in all, most fujos are straight or bisexual.


Well, first of all the men in BL act more like women than actual real-life men since most of it is written by women, so the female audience can identify with the characters to a certain degree. They're usually romance stories first, which men don't find appealing. If you compare it to yuri, yuri is often quite masculine and the girls don't act like girls do because contrary to BL it's most of the time written by men for a male audience. It's more about character dynamics and stories than the actual gender of the characters.

No. 21069

c-can we please talk about No Thank You!!! again because it's such a good visual novel.. and it seems like nobody ever talks about it anymore. I don't see why, it was such a good novel.

No. 21070

holy fuck I was just thinking about this VN. I miss my laptop its RIP now and im in the process of saving up for a new one. This is my all time favorite vn I miss it so much.

No. 21071

Thoughts on this? they kissed 36 times in this 4 minutes video

No. 21072

i only counted 22 mouth-to-mouth kisses with 14 of them hidden by the rest of the face or the head so those could still be faked.
21 of those kisses though they only touched each other with their mouths not real kisses in my opinion.

and with the exception of 1 or 2 all of them are lowkey ugly.

No. 21073

That last kiss OMG….

No. 21074

Does anybody remember the BL band ADAMS? They were big in the fujo community back in 2013 but after the guitarist, Shota, had a stroke and passed, the band was finished. Their music is actually still really amazing to this day.

No. 21075

this is literally the more desperate-for-attention display of fanservice I've ever seen.

No. 21076

their music is pretty catchy, and the boys arent ugly, i wonder why this didnt get a lot of attention when it was still alive though?

No. 21077

the beat is really generic and forgettable, it sounds like an ending theme song for a boring slice of life shoujo anime.

No. 21078

im really getting turned on over those yaoi mangas, in which one guy is really in love with another guy but the guy he is in love with doesnt want to give in to his gay desires. so the love of the first guy stay unfulfilled for a long time feeding into it, until after a while the second guy finally gives in while still mildly not wanting to admit it resulting in mildly forced sex that embarrasses the other guy……………..

does that have an own genre?
can someone advice me mangas about stories like that?

No. 21079

I think the tag you're looking for is Dubcon (dubious consent), you might want to start there.

No. 21080

Everyone in this thread should at least watch this vid once, they're not bad.

No. 21081

Christ, I cant believe they even put a sex scene into the video. Usually it's just fake kisses and shit like that but I guess they really wanted fujoshis' attention?

No. 21082

>Forcing disgusting 3D in the fujo thread

No. 21083

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I'm playing FE Fates Conquest these days, I wanted to marry Zero/Niles as a guy but I decided to play as a girl because this would let me unlock all the characters instead, including Niles' fujo daughter. I wonder what changes when you marry him as a guy, aside from the support scenes that aren't different in the shit localization. I'll try to marry him as a guy in Revelation. I wish Silas were a gay option too and that the lesbian option weren't so shit.

No. 21084

>not modding your 3DS and playing the gay marriage hack

No. 21085

Didn't some people hack their 3DS and got caught because they were playing online before the game's release date and they are banned from the eshop now? I'm not doing it anyway, I don't want to mess up and I think the support scenes from the hack are on youtube anyway.

No. 21086

Feel weird posting in a fujo thread because I'm not a fujo, but Niles/mKamui feel just right. Totally agree about the shit lesbian options, too.
>tfw I paired Azura with feMui before someone told me about Revelations

No. 21087

iirc, people were being banned for hacking enemy-only skills and weapons, like Point Blank and the Skadi bow, onto their own units and then playing online with them.

Anyway, I agree that the gay option for ladies is complete garbage in the vanilla game. There were a bunch of characters that would've been more suitable, but nope.

No. 21088

Yeah, Niles/MC (regardless of gender for me but still) is a great pairing, they're really cute. I like when characters act tough or like they're perverts or things like that but at some point they start being really nice and cute and even romantic, and I have a soft spot for characters who have white hair and dark skin so I love Niles in general. I'm still salty they changed his love confession to a random joke in English.

Close enough, but maybe I was mixing this case with Pokémon Sun/Moon's release or another Nintendo game.

No. 21089

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can we make a BL discord please. i am lonely and i want someone, anyone, to discuss with

No. 21090

I'd join it

No. 21091

No. 21092

I'd join too

No. 21093

I hope I don't fucking regret posting this on lolcow.

No. 21094

Leaving this here for late anons. Let me know if you want another one, I am always here. (;_;)

No. 21095

;o; another?

No. 21096

No. 21097

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Been playing Room no 9 recently, i was so excited for it, and honestly i'm tiny bit disappointed with it.
The story is kind of mediocre. I am currently missing only one ending block, which i hope explains a little more of the story or gives more depth to the characters other than "we are friends, he is the super super chill bottom bitch and i'm the hyper one". I know bl games do not tend to have the best stories, but unless you treat this one as pure smut you'll probably be disappointed most of the time except for a few endings.

So far, the choices to make seem rather limited. Kinda thought you would decide every day wether to do torture or sex since the game seemed to be about that, but you make a choice between those two one single time since the rest of the time the boys choose it themselves (and i'ts always sex, hooray). Only made 5-6 choices in my 10 hours playing. (which do change the endings dramatically, to be fair.)
The sex cg's are absolutely fantastic, the art is nice(although there were definitely some weird proportions or perspectives, but i don't mind it as much) and the voice acting is superb, the scat cg with grotesque stuff turned on is fucking gross though, didn't expect it to be as graphic, which surprised me. So if you pick it up and are grossed by that stuff, be warned that you cannot skip this part of the story, as it is obligatory, although you can turn grotesque off and it's not bad at all
Overall, it's okay, the boys are cute and the sex is great and some endings are pretty good, but i'm still kinda dissapointed eventhough i like it quite a lot, maybe i was expecting too much out of it.

No. 21098

The art looks really nice, but I can't seem to find any sites on how to download/buy it…. but then again, that's like the problem for all of these bl games

No. 21099

Also, I know this thread is filled with fujoshi but does there happen to be any fudanshi? Gay, straight, it doesn't matter what your orientation is… I just wanna know if there are any more as I feel kinda awkward

No. 21100

What's the appeal of yaoi for a straight guy?

No. 21101

I mean this one youtuber I watch does a lot of yaoi let's plays and generally enjoys them but he's straight
Also wouldn't it be the same as straight girls who enjoy cute yuri stories?

No. 21102

If you are cool downloading illegally you can get it at anime-sharing.com.
Otherwise, i'm pretty sure you can buy legally on the parade website and amazon.jp.

Pretty sure there is a lot of fundashi out on the wild. Since this is a more female oriented board you probably won't find as many here. But for example in 4chan's /y/ threads there is a lot of male posters, in reddit's /r/yaoi (i think it's called) too.

The same that it is for a woman, i guess? I don't really see the difference.
Most people enjoy cute/deep stories, good characters, pretty art and cheesy love stuff, which yaoi/bl has tons of. Yaoi also tends to have more story (be it good or bad) as opposed to hentai/yuri, which tends to be mostly pure smut and fanservice, which could attract all kinds of people and sexes.
I personally find it absolutely normal when straight (or otherwise) men enjoy bl/yaoi.

No. 21103

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I want more of Canis

No. 21104

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Can anyone recommend a live-action BL/yaoi adaptation where the acting isn't absolutely garbage

No. 21105

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I really love 19 Tian (19 Days), however the waiting is agonizing.

Also I think it could be really interesting if they took the animation style and made it into an anime. Is there a word for Chinese anime? (…google says it's donghua?)

I'd totally watch some yaoi donghua

No. 21106

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Maybe this is weirdly specific, but.. Is there any yaoi/BL, manga or game or whatever, that is set on the Victorian or Rococco area? Heck, I'll even take literature. I think of this since I first read Dorian Grey, I just wanna see oldschool boys gettin' it on.

Pic very related, Enjolras from the Les Mis manga.

No. 21107

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It's not actually BL but there is rococo homo in the manga Innocent

No. 21108


The artwork is beautiful! I'll check it out for sure, even though it's not BL. Thanks anon!

No. 21109

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Pic related is really good. (seven days monday to thursday). If you're open for stuff that isn't Japanese I recommend Shangyin ("addicted"). It's a Chinese webdrama. Thailand also have a shit ton of good bl movies.

No. 21110

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Watched both parts today on your rec anon. Super cute, actually had some chemistry between the leads. Just the sort of thing I was looking for! Though much as I enjoy the occasional high school drama, I often yearn for more stuff with older guys, or at least in their twenties, since I am… the age that I am, lol. Live action yakuza yaoi is the unicorn I search for.

I'm definitely also going to check out Shangyin when I can. Feel free to tell me your favorite Thai movies too, I'd love to dip my toe in that arena!

No. 21111

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There seem to be quite a few anons who're still into Yaoi (judging by the Porn Criticism thread), so I hope it's okay to necro this thread.

I absolutely love when the roles are "reversed", meaning a strong, manly Uke and a feminine, long-haired Seme.
I highly recommend all of Abe Akane's works. Pic related is "Moon and Sun", it's extremely good and beautifully drawn (however, the Seme is crossdressing, so if that's not your thing…).
Other stuff of hers that I really like (and read multiple times) are "Ubawareru Koto Marugoto Zenbu" and "Suki Toiunoni Nazekashira" (both stories are linked together). No older Seme raping a childlike Uke who ends up enjoying it, just two handsome adults.
Naono Bohra is quite good as well.

I'd also recommend:
>Hima na no de Hajimete Mimasu
>Koi To Kedama To Otonari-san
>Konya mo Nemurenai
>Dorobou Neko ni wa Nusumenai

No. 21112

I fucking live for a crossdressing/andro seme and a butch/twink uke any of thise role reversals make me so happy rip

No. 21113

>> no older Seme raping an Uke who ends up enjoying it

awe boo

No. 21114

I'm so happy this thread is back, I had no one to discuss my fujo stuff with.

Speaking of which, what are your opinions on dick redraws in manga and doujin? Personally, I tend to really hate them. They never look good and distract from the actual manga. But I was wondering if anyone actually liked them?

No. 21115

Never. I'll always stand with lightsaber penises in censored manga.
And anyway, penises are mostly for gay men, like the giant dick stuff, nipples/butts/tongues are way more erotic.

No. 21116


Do you have an example of what you mean? Do you mean when it's like censored or?

No. 21117

Its when they try and uncensored the dick. It looks bad about 90% of the time, or just really out of place with the art style. Just leave it censored.

No. 21118

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Anyone reading anything interesting lately? I've been enjoying DoS Obake Ga Nekasetekurenai. The plot is kinda nonexistent but the sex scenes are good and well drawn.

No. 21119

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Read Kazoku ni Narouyo by Kurahashi Tomo today! A very sweet story about family, love and friendship, with some short but nice steamy scenes. I have such a soft spot for stories featuring gay couples being parents (through omegaverse or adoption) !

Also thank god for this thread, I have a few fujo friends IRL but none of them are as into BL/yaoi and shipping as me…

No. 21120

>> the plot is nonexistent but the sex is good
just the way I like it

No. 21121

im >>21120

And I actually really enjoyed this. The plot was dumb af but it was kinda hot.

No. 21122

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….another? ;_; (a very late anon)

I'm saving all of these fluffy BL reccs, bless all of your fujo/fudan hearts.

Gambare wa, Nakamura-kun!! is a great oneshot in the same genre, but it wouldn't actually be boyS love in plural since it's a one sided love. The art is really neat and it emulates an pre 2000s style, and its bound to make you skip at least a beat.

No. 21123


I like BL and all but lately I've been on a smut kick haha

No. 21124

Seconding for another discord link, please…

No. 21125

Guys, I'm sorry. I deleted the discord because of personal reasons. It was an immature decision that I regret. If anyone made a new one I'm sure people would be interested.

No. 21126

What was the reason lol

No. 21127

Ooh, is this the same mangaka who did Gesshoku Kitan?

No. 21128

Is there a reason why BL visual novels aren't really popular with fujos?

No. 21129

Yes they are lol? DMMD and No Thank You!! are both extremely popular. Some even posted some VNs in this very thread.

No. 21130

DMMD I'll give you, but I wouldn't call NTY "extremely popular". It hardly has anything resembling a visible fanbase.

Anyway I asked this for a few reasons. One because I was reading a 5ch thread where Jap fujos are worried about the state of BL games, calling it an endangered genre and noting how niche it is. Companies go bankrupt left and right and sales are low. If even Japs think it's dead, it's dead.

Two, on the Western side of things, I noticed how otome fans are extremely visible and organized, and constantly push for a wide variety of games to get localized and make sure companies see them. Contrast with BL where fujos seem largely disinterested in BL games beyond DMMd.

Considering how many fujos are out there you'd think BLVNs would be more thriving. I can only wonder if there's a reason why they're largely overlooked.

No. 21131

Just theorizing so don't take me too seriously but I wonder if it's because of the relative time and effort required to download them and get them to work vs anime/manga. It's not super difficult or anything but finding a legit download source and messing with the settings can still be a turn off for a computer noob, whereas streaming media or reading online is much more comfortable and simple. And unlike otome, there just isn't enough (good) content being produced for anyone to give a fuck. The reason western fans go on about DMMD (and other N+C titles) and NTY is cause they're flagships, and there isn't that much else worth reading with a promise of any kind of translation.

For me personally, I'm growing out of my fujo phase and while I still like some content, I'm probably not serious enough about it anymore to bother with a full length VN. I think many western fujos are leaving for fanfiction (even of non-Asian media) or regular vidya with romance plots like Dragon Age or ME.

No. 21132

sorry I know I should search myself but is there a yuri thread? I prefer it so much personally

No. 21133

They are. The only problem is that only a few selected ones get translated, I think there are only two or three officially translated VNs and just a few with a fan translation patch available. Only a small amount of people speak Japanese fluently enough to be able to go through a novel so the issue isn't much about how fujos don't like VNs, it's just about the availability of them being scarce.

me too tbh

No. 21134

christ anon you go to the catalog, press ctrl + f, write "yuri" on the search field and you find it immediately, don't come to the motherfucking BL thread to showcase what a technically inept retard you are

No. 21135

Hate to derail, but… why? It's drawn/written by and for creepy men. I'm a lesbian and I still don't understand why any (real) girl would prefer it over BL unless she sees women the same way those creeps do.

Daily reminder that kabi nagata is a fujo

No. 21136

all yuri isn't like that, just like all yaoi isn't for girls. also some of us like stuff creepy men write. i hate this idea that only men like super sexual stuff. stuff written for men is just stuff that's hot in a specific sexual way. many women are like that honestly.

No. 21137

>all yuri isn't like that
It's undeniable that the vast majority of it is and, at the very least, written by males.

>also some of us like stuff creepy men write. i hate this idea that only men like super sexual stuff. stuff written for men is just stuff that's hot in a specific sexual way. many women are like that honestly.

Yeah, that's what I meant when I said "unless she sees women the same way those creeps do." Those women are just as gross as the men are and tbh it screams internalized misogyny/regular misogyny. In some ways, I think lesbian fetishes are even uglier on females.

No. 21138

But you see, even otome fans show a large amount of interest in untranslated otome games, do their research, and enthusiastically push for titles to get translated. And it works. I don't see that same enthusiasm from fujos. Like, if DMMD is the most revered game then it's not like their standards are particularly high, there's a lot of games on the same level or higher they could be pushing for.

No. 21139

> I'm a lesbian and I still don't understand why any (real) girl would prefer it over BL unless she sees women the same way those creeps do.
This. Nobody in their right mind would ever claim that yuri is meant for lesbian girls. I have yet to see a yuri comic with realistic female characters that doesn't classify as josei and a general "romance" manga instead of just "yuri".

>just like all yaoi isn't for girls
Just because some gay men (fudanshi) read BL comics doesn't mean they're directed towards men. The stuff meant for them isn't usually classified as "yaoi", it's more of the trashy bara stuff with lots of dirty sex that's made for guys.

Fujos know their game won't be translated no matter how much they push it, the market is MUCH smaller than for otome games and the west is scared of gays anyway. And I don't know where you hang around to say that the BL audience doesn't express interest in untranslated games, I see a lot of people lamenting over how a.) they're not available to the west even in Japanese b.) they don't exist at all. The main woe is that even in Japan the BL games are pretty niche and not a lot of them get even made compared to Otomes which pop up like mushrooms. For every BL game there are like 20 Otome games so of course their availability (and thus demand) is a lot higher. And to be frank a lot of fujos substitute otome games for BL due to the reasons mentioned so the genre has double the fans.

No. 21140

I was on my phone and I was just wondering. I know how to use the find command. don't see why you gotta get all pissy about it

I am a bi woman and I simply have enjoyed yuri. I never really got into yaoi or BL because honestly I associate it with fakeboi idiots on Tumblr and imho fujoshi "culture" online is gross. but to each their own

No. 21141

>I am a bi woman
You honestly didn't even need to clarify that; really the only females who like yuri are either straight or bi.

No. 21142

>Fujos know their game won't be translated no matter how much they push it
I feel like this is changing though, MangaGamer is working on more stuff lately like Hashihime. Otome games hardly got translated either until recently with Aksys picking up a lot of titles.

No. 21143

JAST also has a new BL branch and they're bringing over sweet pool.

No. 21144

Hope they'll take on Slow Damage once it gets released.

Also I wish bara games got translations but they're a niche within a niche lol. Fug

No. 21145

I mean you come to the BL thread to ask about a Yuri thread while absolutely having to announce that you don't like BL in your very first reply and then dig yourself even deeper in the second one. I don't know the thought process behind that course of action was but it, in fact, made you look like an utter retard.

You. I like you.

On a related note I'm hoping that the option for digital releases will bring translating BL back to life again. A lot of publishers translating BL manga seemed to go belly under due to poor sales some years ago, but that seemed to correlate with long release times caused by the manufacturing of physical copies. At least some Harada's titles were translated as digital releases recently I think.

No. 21146

>> MangaGamer is working on more stuff lately
oh that's good, I met them at Anime Boston and they have good quality stuff tbh.

No. 21147

I completely agree with you here. VNs just take a bit more work then a doujin/manga. For the most part you can find a translation of a something. VNs take more effort to translate

Stuff like DMMD got more popular because it had an anime associated with it too.

No. 21148

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No. 21149

this isn't the bad art thread, anon.

No. 21150

they do not take more effort to translate in the slightest, the issue with VNs is that they take more effort to add the translations. with manga scans you just cut the original text and add the english and then add a subtitle under stuff that's not bubbled (like sounds) anime is even easier, you just need to at the bare minimum write text over the frames but with vns, a lot of them have to be completely recoded, the text isn't easy to find and replace, and even if it is adding romanized letters can lead to tons of issues.

No. 21151

Dykes have terrible taste in men

No. 21152

As if there aren't millions of straight girls who unironically want to fuck men like Adam Driver, and millions of others who willingly date abusive and/or fugly men. Fuck off, cocksucker.

No. 21153

>all fujos are dykes

No. 21154

>Fuck off, cocksucker
>implying it's an insult


No. 21155

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I'm glad you liked it!

I loved Ganbare, Nakamura-kun! The art style reminds me of old Rumiko Takahashi art. The characters were cute too, and I got some good laughs from it.

It doesn't really count as BL, but I've also been reading Shimanami Tasogare, which I really like. The art is wonderful and though the main character is kind of boring, the plot is engaging and I like the other characters a lot and I'm looking forward to seeing how everything will turn out.

No. 21156

is anyone on you on lezhin comics? should I go for it?

No. 21157

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Thoughts on webcomics?

No. 21158

oh, this looks pretty neat anon, where is it from?

No. 21159

Always Raining Here. You can read it here: http://alwaysraininghere.com/

The art's pretty meh at first but it gets better.

No. 21160

I'm on it. The coins add up but I think its worth it. There was a bit of a problem with the company a couple of months ago regarding them not paying the artists correctly.. I'm unsure if this problem is fixed or still on going ;-; but I hope it's fixed. I want the artists/authors to get compensated for their work. So that's why even if I read them illegally from like Tumblr or Mangago I do go back and buy the chapters so that they'll continue.
For reqs I'd say start off with : Blood Bank,Royal Servant, Killing Stalking (you're either going to really like it or really hate it), Make me bark (the art style is.. well you'll get used to it),See you again.

No. 21161

Thanks! the art is kinda lazy but good enough

No. 21162

I've been reading Yaoi/BL for a good while and every time I look at BL blogs on tumblr (and or Instagram) I always feel like I know nothing lol I see everyone's long list of recommendations and favorite mangakas ;-; and I don't have any of that.

No. 21163

I used to love this comic to the point of camping in front of computer for updates and buying extras, but I just can't bring myself to care about it at this point. It got really meh after the characters started college. I haven't checked it in months.

No. 21164

Samefag here. Used to love this one as well. I don't know what happened but when it started again after that huge months long hiatus, I hated everything about it.

This one is my favourite. It was very bittersweet when it finished.
It's more grown up than the others in this thread (does it even count as boy love when characters are grown up?) I loved the themes it tackled, the art is stunning and the main characters really grow on you.

No. 21165

fail fandomanon on dreamwidth is pretty active. it's not all anime but there are enough anime posters who cycle through to have a discussion if you make a thread about it

No. 21166

I wonder if the sort of person who enjoys lolcow would fit in on ffa or be able to tolerate the people there. It's a weird, annoying combination of overly cutesy and overly pissy. I cant stand their passive aggressiveness and calling each other 'nonny' and freezing threads over any tiny controversy.

No. 21167

They definitely are overly trigger happy on thread freezing there. It also is a lot less active than it was when it first started out. I can still sometimes get an enjoyable discussion out of it, though. And there are a lot of older fannish women who frequent it (as opposed to tumblr girls who label everything problematic)

No. 21168

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Recently I read Sonna Me de Mite Kure, it was short but cute if you don't mind haircuts

No. 21169

Are there any good free BL/fujo games or visual novels online? I'm a super noob with that kind of stuff, but I don't want to pay 15 dollars for one short game.

No. 21170

Patrician taste

No. 21171

JAST Blue announced they're localizing all N+C games and MangaGamer announced Luckydog1.

No. 21172

Just pirate if you are a poorfag.

No. 21173

How do you deal or explain yaoi to the bf? My bf is not a weeb or otaku, he doesn't understand bl and doesn't get why people like it. I've tried explaining to him about the romantic aspects of it and why I like it, I feel like there's a disconnect between us on that. He got annoyed af when I talk about it (I don't talk about it much only if he asks me what I'm doing and just so happens I'm playing a yaoi game)

No. 21174

I'd ask him if he ever has fantasies about lesbians and go from there. Wouldn't really expect a straight man to touch yaoi with a ten-foot pole but to be actively "annoyed af" with you for it seems kinda off.

No. 21175

Yeah this, I'd never expect a guy to 'get it' but unless he is pure of heart and mind and has never fantasized about lesbians or weird kinks or w/e then he has zero right to judge. Loads of BL is innocuous as fuck and most guys are into way worse.

No. 21176

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I've always been more of an 'opportunistic' fujo instead of a dedicated fan but lately I've been consuming more BL media because I found out my coworker is a fujoshi. She's a better fujoshi than I am so I've been watching/reading stuff on her recommendation. Kind of makes me wistful about not being more of a babby fujo as a teen I could have had so much fun. We suspect a third coworker may also be a fujoshi too but we're not sure yet, we don't work anywhere associated with nerds or weebs we're pretty much office ladies lol. Personally I prefer BL to straight up Yaoi, I guess I'm a prude.

Anyway it isn't technically in the BL genre but I finished up Seraph of the End recently and the fujo bait is ridiculous. MikaYuu will never be canon which sucks, they have great scenes and I want them to be happy. The first season was so fucking rough but I'm glad I persevered, I'm getting by on fanfiction and reading the manga.

No. 21177

Would he understand "It's better escapism if it's romance without a female character so I don't have to compete with anyone?

No. 21178

Being more attracted to two dicks than one doesn't have to mean being an insecure sadsack who feels competitive with fictional characters.

No. 21179

Why the fuck should a woman explain her fujo tendencies? What woman doesn't like looking at good-looking men? Why do men find it so outlandish and weird if a woman likes BL?
It's because it's porn/romance that's not made for males and female sexuality that doesn't revolve around women pleasing men is alien to them

No. 21180

This is the most common reason I've heard for preferring yaoi over hetero self-insert romances (or yuri if you're lesbian).

No. 21181


Heard the explanation too though it's pathetic. The smartest reason for liking yaoi was one I read in some academic work about japanese fujos. Apparently yaoi lets female readers enjoy the romance and porn while forgeting about societal pressures and expectations toward women (no gender roles, no pregnancy, partners of equal social standing - though the last one is often subverted in yaoi, so make of that what you will).

No. 21182

He would but he would mistake that for "oh so you want a 3 some or these characters are your ideals and I'm not like that" he doesn't get fantasy and husbando/waifus. I don't want him to get the wrong idea and think that I prefer Yaoi/BL characters over him

No. 21183

Why not beautiful or hot men fucking women then? That is more appealing to me but so fucking rare to find since it's always gayshit.

No. 21184

Because… I'm not sexually attracted to women? Het sex is something I can do IRL and I can get off to it, but if I'm going to read an actual story for fantasy alone I far prefer being attracted to both characters than one and just having to tolerate the other.

No. 21185

If you really think about it, that's very similar to what I said >>21177

No. 21186

i wish i could tell you. both me and my bf are attracted to animu girls and boys so it works. i wouldn't be able to date someone who wasn't into animu.

No. 21187

I don't see how those reasons are similar at all…?

No. 21188

I assume she means wanting to escape pressure on the woman's role in a relationship involves feeling 'competitive' with characters who do fulfill that role. Which makes sense in a way, but it's pretty uncharitable to frame it as being competitive (aka petty and jealous and catty) rather than just wanting to read romance from a neutral position, not one which forces you to self insert and compare yourself to media that can be really unfair on women.

No. 21189

Thank you for the explanatipn. To me allowing yourself to indulge in a fantasy about romance without the burdens of being a woman (not only those existing in fiction, but also in real life) is really different than feeling competitive toward female characters, which to me brings the idea of the Die For Our Ship crazy fangirls that hate any female character that has any relationship with half of potential gay couple (or hating female characters due low self-esteem).

I am not a fujoshi though, so yeah. Just reporting on an interesting idea that I read.

I suppose for many yaoi readers the reason is just 'that's sexy, duh' and there is nothing wrong with that.

No. 21190

You are making it more aggressive than I intended. I just mean it's more enjoyable to read romances without feeling inadequate all the time, like, constantly being reminded that I'm not that smol and am too jaded to act cute and innocent all the time. I think it's much healthier to avoid it and go into yaoi than what some people do, become weeb.

I called it feeling competitive because this is a popular and imo accurate formulation of the sentiment. But yes it's less charitable than the academic one. Maybe I should start telling people the other one instead.

No. 21191

>being a fujoshi =/= being a weeb
> ???
but fujoshis are a type of weebs, anon…

You don't have to lie, your reasons are yours alone and you don't have to try to measure yourself to anyone else. I just disagree that those two explanations are similar. One is more about feeling bad about yourself, the other about feeling bad about society.

If it helps, the academic idea was tied into Japan's gender politics and a specific point in time (the crration of bl/yaoi and it's growing popularity), so I am not sure if it applies to many fangirls anywhere. I just found it an interesting explanation. It does sound very high and noble for being a theory about female-read erotica.

No. 21192

I don't feel competitive with cutesy innocent girls personally, I just find it pathetic and I can't relate or enjoy it. It's like, I don't want to be that way but I don't want to be reminded that it's considered desirable either.

Anyway I'm sure your intentions weren't bad or mean spirited, I didn't mean assume you meant the worst when you said competitive. But some people love putting fujos down as pathetic jelly losers, and women in general as catty and hating each other. Nobody really thinks that about guys who like lesbian porn, it's just a normal thing for men and doesn't get questioned.

No. 21193

the fetishizing of gay men and lesbian women is gross and weird, imo. it's waaaaaaaaaaaay more gross for men to fetishize lesbians, though. it's not questioned because men push it in media and we're all expected to accept it, but it's gross.

No. 21194

Men are gross about lesbians but mostly because they put them down for being butch, think they can be turned straight by dick etc. And porn is ethically wrong so of course men who watch lesbian porn are trash. But honestly, as long as they don't direct their attraction at actual gay couples there's nothing wrong with guys liking yuri or fictional/fantasy lesbian couples. Likewise for fujos, it's very rare for them to be so enamoured with same sex couples that they sexualize or romanticize gay dudes unless the guys are idealized, fictional characters that are extremely attractive and have great romantic chemistry. Which are things with broad, general appeal so calling it fetishizing is… overdramatic.

No. 21195

Enjoying japanese media doesn't by itself make you a weeb. I meant how some people try to imitate anime girls, Venus Angelic etc.

I think you described it well in that post actually. Both explanations identified the feel-bad that's yaoi avoids but the blame is placed differently.

No. 21196

idk if i speak for everyone, but i personally like alot of the power dynamic in yaoi, specifically the fact that there's usually a guy who takes a submissive role. if i read fem-domme stuff i tend to self insert, but if i read yaoi i just sit back and enjoy the ride. i feel like some of my fujoshit friends feel similarly.

No. 21197

I often explain this to people as the reason why I like BL and they usually understand. If they don't, they're more usually retarded dudebros who think women liking porn is a dream come true but only if they like the stuff made for men.

I don't remember which thread it was but someone said that shitty men are easy to spot by how badly they treat fujos because it goes on to show that they hate it when women have sexual autonomy. The whole term "fujoshi" comes from people calling girls rotten because their virginal value is spoiled if they like porn all on their own.

The "there's no competition in yaoi for women" reason is true to an extent, but it 's not the whole story and I hate how people are pushing that narrative. BL lets women enjoy their sexuality and have something catered to female gaze without feeling like they're being pressured by exhibiting the ideal female role. Not a lot of media has that.

No. 21198

Huh? Men watch heterosexual porn just fine most of the time. How are you unable to self-insert as the woman?

No. 21199

Are you illiterate or did you not read my post at all? I literally said
>Het sex is something I can do IRL and I can get off to it
but why the fuck would I bother if I'm reading fic or manga? I can have straight sex IRL, and mainstream media provides a non stop stream of het romance so I'm never, ever deprived of it. If it's a fantasy and all in my imagination, I prefer a story involving two people I'm attracted to, not one person plus a shitty half assed character designed to alleviate loneliness via self insertion.

No. 21200

But to clarify, by manga I specifically mean doujins for porn. I read het romance in manga all the time.

No. 21201

NTAYRT but I don't like the whole "self insert thing", it makes me feel uncomfortable. I can't play otome games with a female MC for that reason, I just don't like the thought because I can't self insert myself into the MC, I just see a shitty character, not myself. That's why I like BL, I don't HAVE to self-insert, instead I have two attractive characters getting it on. I don't get why this is so hard to realize for so many people.

No. 21202

That's also why I like it. I don't like porn involving women for similar reasons, it's easier to enjoy things without context of how women are generally portrayed in romance/erotica.

No. 21203

nta but most heterosexual porn is made for men, and especially in hentai, a lot of the times the man is just a ghost dick or may as well be. and most of the time the woman has a very specific role, like childhood friend or nextdoor neighbor or mom's drunk friend on the couch. and usually the girl has more lines or specific ones that relate to her personality, again, for the guy to self insert. it's much easier for guys to self insert as joe every-dick.

No. 21204

>Which are things with broad, general appeal so calling it fetishizing is… overdramatic.
Definitely. In most of BL the gay characters actually have a defined personality, feelings, goals, character history etc. Unless it's a smut doujin it's 99% of the time more about two characters developing their relationship and going through life together in varying situations and settings with occasional sex scenes. It's far from fetishization and objectification because they're actually being described and presented as human beings. In most lesbian stuff aimed for men it's only about the smut and has two cute/sexy girls with no describable personality fondling each other with minimal story. THAT'S fetishizing. They're being treated as objects only meant for sexual gaze.

No. 21205

People calling it fetishizing really bother me tbh. Firstly because it's so arbitrary… when does liking something sexual become a fetish, and when does a fetish becoming 'fetishizing', and when does fetishizing become harmful/unethical? Is it still fetishizing when they exclusively enjoy G rated, non porn BL?

And like you said, the reality is that fujos enjoy humanized and developed characters. I find this particularly true for western fujos in regards to fanfic (may also be true in Japanese fic but I can't read it) - many girls literally want to read hundreds of thousands of words of slow build relationship development before getting to the sex. They gravitate towards fanfiction rather than original stories because they want to know and like the characters. They are far from objectified and a lot of the time show a lot of respect and affection for the characters involved. Yeah, there is some ~problematic~ stuff, like top/bottom stereotypes and 'loving rape', but chances are that stuff is written by young, sexually inexperienced women. They are projecting their understanding of straight sex on gay sex because that's literally all they know, and it's a result of misogyny rather than homophobia. And people are really growing out of that shit these days.

No. 21206

it would only be fetishizing if you treat gay dudes like that IRL. like some girls do do that, but the whole genre can't be fetishizing, it's not that simple.

No. 21207

i know that’s not what you were getting at but this just reminded me of how fucking much i hate the ‘waaah top/bottom is stoopid, it’s not straight sex!!’ idea that a lot of woke transtrenders who like to shit on fujos love to push so hard.

a lot of women who are into yaoi are straight so them applying heteronormative dynamics onto the characters isn’t strange at all. having certain preferences as to what character holds what ~position~ in bed isn’t dumb or problematic. it’s literally a just sexual preference, it just happens to be that it applies to fictional scenarios and not irl.

it’s a fantasy.

it’s not real.

no sane person is claiming that’s how every single gay relationship since the beginning of time is structured.

i wish people would stop trying to dictate what women can and can’t like. there’s an entire industry revolving around what men like in terms of sexual entertainment and it’s completely accepted and celebrated. allow women to enjoy their choice of sexual entertainment and preferences in peace.

let fujos live 2k18.

No. 21208

this. if anything it's problematic to deny that men can be submissive and that their relationships aren't similar to het relationships, because many of them are.

wtf do they think gay men do, wrestle naked for dominance until one of their dicks pops into the other's ass?

No. 21209

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Koisuru Intelligence is probably one of my favorites, this panel had me dead lol

No. 21210

Very much agreed. Frankly I don't even care if the "loving rape" trope or dubcon in BL is ~le problematic~ because in the end it will never, ever be as damaging as misogynistic 3D porn with real life actors. It will never, EVER threaten the lives of gay people. The only people being so butthurt by the power play tropes in BL either are the self-hating ex-fujos who have never read BL besides the mid 00's edgy rape fantasy series or the insecure MLM fakebois who don't pass and developed a complex about it, then started lashing out at fujos.

No. 21211

ikr. why do people assume fujos always self insert? do they think dudes that watch lesbian porn are self inserting as one of the lesbians?

No. 21212

or what about people who watch masturbation videos?

No. 21213

My problem with loving rape isn't how it will affect the poor victimized gay men (because it wont), more whatever has made that female writer romanticize rape in the first place and how it may influence young readers. It's a symptom of brainwashing that came from misogynistic straight porn, so BL isn't to blame either way. And like you mentioned, it's a relic from edgy decade plus old series.

No. 21214

my problem with it is that it's fucking boring, and usually just an excuse to essentially give the character stockholm syndrome instead of writing any compelling interactions between the two characters. usually the character who gets raped wants nothing to do with the rapist and then immediately changes his mind after the rape. that's not how fucking anything works.

No. 21215


On a different topic, I know how people were complaining that they wanted a place to discuss yaoi, and some were wanting to download manga or watch ovas and tv shows, and it got me thinking…has no one heard of aarinfantasy? Its been around for years and has thousands of users plus has links for downloads, discussion, etc. Yes you have to sign up with an email but its completely free and has just about every yaoi thing you can think of there.

No. 21216

I had not heard of this before, thanks anon

No. 21217

There's also yaoiotaku which is good for novels

No. 21218

Why are you even in this thread?

No. 21219

Funny you mention that I actually just signed up for that a few weeks ago.

No. 21220

>looking at bl manga on mangadex to try to find something good
>ratings are skewed because of a small group of people giving every recent one a 1
Why do these autists do this? Just ignore the titles you don't like normally.

No. 21221

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Same, I think it's ridiculous to imply that there are any real life repercussions from that trope, but it's terrible writing and boring, and it gets tiring to see people defend it because even the weakest shit will have a ton of fans just because it's mlm

I still can't bring myself to hate DoS Obake though

No. 21222

Anyone got any recommendations like Harada color recipe? Like a psychologically manipulative partner in the relationship who abuses their partner?

No. 21223

I-I mean I wouldn't say it's /exactly/ the same but possibly Killing Stalking? And kinda sorta Moritat

No. 21224

Can you farmers recommend some good bl games in english for me? Pretty disappointed that mangagamer only has 3 bl games, I just downloaded hadaka shitsuji

No. 21225

>Hadaka Shitsuji
Don't fucking do it anon. You'll thank me for warning you.

Anyway I don't think a lot of BL games have translations available, DmmD has a patch I believe, the only two officially translated ones that I know of are Enzai and Absolute Obedience which are pretty old games and maybe a bit niche in general. Some Nitro+Chiral VNs like Lamento, Sweet Pool and Togainu no Chi are supposedly getting official translations too. If any other anon has recommendations I'm willing to listen too.

No. 21226

Haha I actually watched a HS playthrough 5 years ago, it's fucked up but I love all the characters, they are so sweet and devoted. Ryoji is my husbando forever, Toudou takes number 2.

I played a little bit of dmmd years ago. I'm def going to buy the english release, Noiz is my favourite, Clear is pretty sweet too

No. 21227

Pshhh don't listen to >>21225 Hadaka is the best I love it lmao. Me and my friend just downloaded Seiyuu Danshi, it just came out (its only 30 bucks, you can download the demo for free tho) and so far we really like it. The game is about a voice actor (you) and how youknow he dates people you meet etc. I recommend it so far!

No. 21228

Who is your Hadaka shitsuji husbando?

No. 21229

Def Komine, my sweet chef husband. But also Ichinose because omfg did I love his route so much.

No. 21230

Not that anon but, I haven't played a new BL in years. I'm gonna have to check this one out.

No. 21231

I'm >>21227 and I just wanted to add on that you actually play a part in the voice actor job! You have to like 'act' the parts correctly to get the jobs. It's a really neat thing and it makes the game really unique.

No. 21232

My 3 year engagement just ended and I started playing bl games again to lessen the hurt. We're still on good terms but it's still shitty. I'm thinking about buying No thank you on Mangagamer, has anyone played it? Is the story good?

No. 21233

YES the story is amazing. But it does take a bit for it to pick up but it's really good. I recommend it. Also sorry for your engagement ending..

No. 21234

>hadaka shitsuji
Rip in pieces anon

Arisato didn’t deserve anything that happened to him.

No. 21235

Yes he fucking did, he was a manipulative BPDcunt constantly whoring for attention. I should've been able to push him out of that window

No. 21236

Till this day I still have never played his route because I feel like I'm going to go to jail.

No. 21237

Fight me anon

No. 21238

I'm getting used to life again, can you tell me more about the story? Do you pick a character to play as or is there only one main character?

No. 21239

You pick which boys you date. You start off with a guy named Har, you get hit by a car and lose your memory. Basically the guy who saves you is the person whose responsible for you getting hurt (they were aiming for him and you got in the way) so because he felt responsible he gives you a job at his bar. That's where you meet the guys you can date.

No. 21240

What kind of name is that? I'm dying!
I'm sold, I hope nty has yummy yaoi scenes. Should I download it on steam or mangagamer?

No. 21241

LOL SORRY his name is HARU not har, typo~ I didn't know it was on steam, but i downloaded it on managagamer. You can make it uncensored too i don't know if the steam vers is the same.

No. 21242

Is there a BL discord or any other community mostly inhabited by older (25+) fujos? I'm a granny who feels kind of awkward talking about BL with teenagers and I feel my tastes are much nastier than what they have because I was raised by the mid to late 00's edgy yaoi and that's what I'll be buried in my grave with. Another reason being that younger fujos these days play into the retarded fakeboi trend and my crusty ass can't tolerate Ayden bitching about "straight girls fetishizing homosexuals #MLM" or abusive shipping or whatever.

No. 21243

>>my crusty ass can't tolerate Ayden bitching about 'straight girls fetishistic homoesexuals' or abusive shipping
Fuck same anon. I missed the days where people didn't give two fucks about shit like this. I don't feel bad or anything when people call me gross/bad person for liking this stuff (esp the 'abusive shipping') I just feel really annoyed that they preach at me like I asked for their opinion on what I do.

No. 21244

I'm not even bothered by them preaching at me, I'm more worried about being outed as a "rape/abuse apologist" for liking tsundere ships or a "pedophile" for shipping a "minor" (a 17 year old) with an adult (20 year old) and have my life ruined by doxxing and death threats. Fucking drives me crazy watching these nutjobs attack people over fictional characters. I miss the time you could hate on a ship simply because you don't like it instead of making it about some twisted views on real life ethics.

No. 21245

i cant agree more man i am so fed up with the comment sections of every BL manga being filled with tumblr bitching about the tiniest "no" being peeped out of the mouth of the submissive guy. like, i definitely don't want morals and political correctness being featured in my yaoi that'll be the day i just stop lmao

No. 21246

>>Rape/abuse apologist
Oh boy I love that one. Sure please do tell me how me liking something that's fictional means I'd actually be okay with it in real life. It's truly the whole 'GTA will make the kids want to do this in real life! THINK OF THE CHILDREN!" argument with that one
>> I don't want morals and PC being featured in my yaoi that'll be the day I stop
I whole heartily agree. I don't want no PC ass yaoi, I like my shit that's dark and makes me question my morals lol

No. 21247

I'm def gonna try it! I'm gonna get it on Manga gamer since the game is account bound

No. 21248

i meant account bound on steam*

No. 21249

30yr old fujoshit here. if there is a discord for non snowflakes and 25+ year olds, I'll definitely join it.

I played both Enzai and Anima Mundi when they first came out.

No. 21250

That was unironically good shit. Loved the plot, the characters and the sex scenes. It had a surprisingly good immersion to be honest, I should revisit it some day.

No. 21251

I'm 27 and would totally join this. Someone should just make one.

No. 21252

Booo I wouldn't be able to join the chat because i'm 23 lol

No. 21253


Oh god please let me join I'm only 20 but my tastes are the same. I don't interact with anyone else on other websites for pretty much the same reason. Sue me for liking my tsunderes lmao

No. 21254

For some reason I have a thing for tsunderes too lol

No. 21255

Yes, please do! I wanted to replay it myself. It's fun when the games had good multiple routes, upping the replay value.

No. 21256

What is enzai about?

No. 21257

It's about a thief named Guy who is caught stealing food and the prosecutor convicts you of a murder of a man you never met. So you're suppose to try to find out what's going on, while proving your innocence. I think it's pretty interesting.

No. 21258

nta but how is the h scenes tho

No. 21259

It's an older game (I played it in 2005, but i believe it was released in 2003 or 2004??) but they're not too bad. There should be a patch now for uncensored stuff. There's some rape, but it's all men on men, so it's good.

No. 21260

P-Probably shouldn't have googled imaged this on my company's computer
>>inb4 I get fired because of yaoi

No. 21261

>There's some rape, but it's all men on men, so it's good.
absolutely based anon

No. 21262

Idk why that last bit made me chuckle

No. 21263

Isn't the artist Yura? Because from what I remember she did art for a game with a similar story. I hate her art for Fire Emblem Heroes, she made the male characters she draws so ugly despite being assigned to some of the canon best looking men of their respective games.

No. 21264

Does anyone else feel bad about some of their fetishes? I have a whole folder full of muscular black guys having sex with skinny/effeminate white guys, most of which are implied rape. I feel bad for fetishising racial stereotypes. Though apparently not bad enough to delete the folder. Sometimes I wonder how my boyfriend would react if he found out.

No. 21265


Yeah, I read a lot of Paraiso/Harada's works. Love them.

No. 21266

>There's some rape, but it's all men on men, so it's good.
Based and redpilled.

No. 21267

Yes, I feel that anon. I don't have any racial fetishes, but m/m rape, torture, and abuse really does it for me. My boyfriend would probably be horrified if he found out. I don't understand why I'm like this.

No. 21268

This is why I could never get into yaoi. Also prefer seeing men lick pussy but hey guy x guy is okay, fujoshis just seems to love (often underage) rape though.

No. 21269

Remember anons, don't engage with the robot bait. Report and ignore.

No. 21270

Nah I don't feel bad at all lol. I like what I like. I don't feel bad for the rape scenes at this point I'm bored without them. It really depends on what I want to see on that day. My bf knows about my interest in yaoi and he has express many a times that he doesn't like it /at all/ and that it makes him extremely uncomfortable. So I just read it/watch/play it etc when he isn't around. Idk i'm done like hiding my interest in yaoi lol I'm an adult now so i'll do or watch whatever the hell I want youknow?

No. 21271

Nah I don't feel bad at all lol. I like what I like. I don't feel bad for the rape scenes at this point I'm bored without them. It really depends on what I want to see on that day. My bf knows about my interest in yaoi and he has express many a times that he doesn't like it /at all/ and that it makes him extremely uncomfortable. So I just read it/watch/play it etc when he isn't around. Idk i'm done like hiding my interest in yaoi lol I'm an adult now so i'll do or watch whatever the hell I want youknow?

No. 21272

what robots? are you in the wrong thread?

No. 21273

Nah I don't feel bad at all lol. I like what I like. I don't feel bad for the rape scenes at this point I'm bored without them. It really depends on what I want to see on that day. My bf knows about my interest in yaoi and he has express many a times that he doesn't like it /at all/ and that it makes him extremely uncomfortable. So I just read it/watch/play it etc when he isn't around. Idk i'm done like hiding my interest in yaoi lol I'm an adult now so i'll do or watch whatever the hell I want youknow?

No. 21274

If you make one, share the link. It’s impossible to find good m/m-especially if you’re into shit like mpreg and omegaverse-without it being flooded with fakebois saying it’s more progressive for the guys to be trans

I don’t want to see kweer trans bois in a healthy relationship, I want to see men rolling around and fucking each other in a display of dominance

No. 21275

>>I don't want to see a healthy relationship
Same. I like dysfunctional ass relationships imo it's more fun to read. That's why I don't get why some people think ALL fujos read yaoi and think that gay relationships are like that. Obviously some of the people who are underage will probably think that but I was once underage too so not all of us are that delusional and idiotic lmao. Sometimes people just want to see some fucked up shit played out.

No. 21276

>I don’t want to see kweer trans bois in a healthy relationship

Thank you, anon. I am so sick of hearing people get on their soap box about how fictional relationships "should" be healthy and involve two mutually respectful people who talk out their issues in a constructive way whenever they come up.

Sure, that's good in real life. In fiction it's boring as fuck.

No. 21277

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Gachinko Battle from Mentaiko has to be my favorite,I love how smutty but also funny it is. Also the ending makes me tear up everytime. 10/10.

No. 21278

Good taste

No. 21279

Hey can any of you reccomand me something nice to read ? I used to be a hardcore fujo as a young teen, havent been into it for the past 5/6 years but I find myself being interested in it again. My first OTP was MattxMello from Death Note (I was 12 ok), then I mostly read mangas by Setona Mizushiro. I remember a one shot manga I loved that was telling the story of two dudes living together after one dude's sister died and it was referencing Schonberg's Transfigured Night a lot.


No. 21280

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I'm a lesbian who just reads a lot of yaoi/slash for no reason at all it seems.
It helped me come to terms with my own homosexuality, but it would have bee more logical to jump on wlw fiction.
But I don't phantasise when I read and I don't touch myself, I'm not even aroused usually, I'm just addicted to slash fiction and it's very stupid thing to be addicted to in my case since I don't get anything out of it outside from a cookie-cutter descriptions of sex between men. Who IRL I find repulsive.
My girlfriend is the same, so we can at least yell about our ships to each other.

My favourite mangaka is Nakamura Asumiko. Her stories are really fucked up and her art is one of the prettiest I've ever seen.
My ultimate favourite of hers is Double Mints. It even remimnded me of my relationship with my girlfriend in some subtle way (there's a really unusual subplot about soulmates). I made her watch the movie and she hated it and described it as "the most abusive fucked-up relationship she had to witness" and was offended I compared us to them lmao.

No. 21281

I really like Ogeretsu Tanaka's mangas anon.
She makes great lewd scenes and her characters have interesting conflicts, most of them.
I specially liked Renai Ruby no Tadashii Furikata and Hadakeru Kaibutsu.

No. 21282

Thank you for the suggestion! I actually read Neon Sign Amber.

After checking this thread I also read everything from >>20692 . Loved it so much. I adore self destructive shit, and ukes that arent completely effeminate and child-like.

No. 21283

>>the most abusive fucked-up relationship she had to witness
Sign me the fuck up. Those are my favorite.

No. 21284

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Anyone watched Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation? The anime (donghua? it's Chinese) is cute but the novel has more homo.

No. 21285

Sweet Pool is officially available in English and I'm considering getting it now to play it from time to time, but I have to use my free time to do some work on my laptop and I don't want to be too distracted. Does anyone knows how long it takes to each route in this game? Is it a short game to complete?

No. 21286

You know what I want? A server/fandom space for women only to drool over hot guys and BL, no men allowed. Not even FTM/non-binary types.

If I stated this on my public social media I’d get branded a transphobe. Fucking hell. Why can’t women ever have a place to be perverted without men barging in and telling us we’re doing it wrong?

No. 21287

Same for me, that could be fun. I used to be on tumblr for this reason but we all know how fandoms turn to shit really fast on this website.

No. 21288

Any suggestons for "makeover" mangas? Not as in 'I was fat and short, but now I grew up to be hot and my crush noticed me', but more like one guy is less attractive/weird/a loner etc, but the other likes him nevertheless and then he gets better with the help of the other guy (preferebly seme helps uke)? Oddly specific, I know, but I once read one similar to this (can't remember the name) and it was so cute.

No. 21289

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not sure if this exactly fits what you're looking for but check it out because it might and its genuinly great

It's by Setona MIZUSHIRO

No. 21290

I was thinking more of a poor bullied guy not some dude who cheats on his wife.

No. 21291

hm then i dont have anything for you but i'd also be interested in something like that. If you havent read the one above though, I still reccomand it.

No. 21292

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Not exactly "make over" but there's a manga named Aitsu no Daihonmei and a webtoon named Out of Control/Never Understand that have ugly ukes.

Wish there were more stories like this, I'm SO fucking tired of baby faced men in yaoi that act like no man in rl would

This manga is awesome/sad af, I noticed authors that write both yaoi and shoujo usually come up with the best titles.

No. 21293

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I’ve never felt fujo tendencies until this point but this two made me actually consider to pay for porn fan art.

What in the everloving fuck

No. 21294

Literally who(s)?
Tell us so that we can also appreciate the fan service.

No. 21295

they look like jay and daniel from lookism but idk
are you talking about the characters or cosplayers

No. 21296

Thanks, I thought it was some SEA drama/webdrama.

No. 21297

omfg I love Daniel and Jay I ship them.

No. 21298

There's a short one with a popular cute guy and a tall, gloomy unpopular one and the latter gets slowly better but I can't remember the title for the life of me sorry anon.

No. 21299

Has anyone read Katekyo? Not the shonen one about the mafia. It’s my favourite and would love some recommendations that are similar

No. 21300

did that comic about the mc whose life was an ecchi manga plot but he was actually gay get any more updates? i dont remember the name at all..

No. 21301

Whats the "you're penetrating my cervix <3" of yaoi?

No. 21302

Self-lubricating assholes.

No. 21303

You might like Dear My God by Asada Nemui, it’s about a priest who tries to help a younger guy that was raised in a cult. The priest is the bottom though.

No. 21304

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does anyone remember what this is from?? i know i've read it but i can't remember what it's called

No. 21305

>>21303 that bl had such sloppy art and bad stories imo. The thread pic reminds me of one of the loud pulltards, shame.

No. 21306

>>loud pulltards
which one anon

No. 21307

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HS is pretty fucked up but I'm thankful that it exists. I love Kakashi and his voice, his va used the same voice for Sakuma. Play HS if you want to hear Kakashi getting fucked and tortured

No. 21308

Looks like Tsubasa Reservoir chronicle but I am probably wrong

No. 21309

I LOVEEE HS with my entire soul. I bonded with a friend over this and lmao I swear it made us closer

No. 21310

oh my, if it's angstory! It's been a while.
It was a comic done by a korean dude about a pretty shota trap boy and it was pretty finey but he dropped the project after 2 chapters. I think they posted it on 4chan back in the day but don't really know.

No. 21311

Has anybody here read Warehouse? I thought it was cancelled, but apparently a new season is being released. I'm just waiting for the English translation…

No. 21312

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HOLY SHIT read the latest chapter of Ao No Flag
Things escalated so fast despite waiting monthly for an update

No. 21313

not to be that anon, but is there any way you could link it, I've also been reading the series as well and I almost forgot about it until you brought it up

No. 21314

No. 21315

Don't tell me something actually happens between the leads? Picked back up

No. 21316

FUCK finally someone else who reads it my heart stopped omg goddamn a month couldnt come faster i love touma so much my heart hurts for him

No. 21317

The whole chapter hurt so much.
Why must Touma suffer so much?

No. 21318

Care to give us a little description of this?

No. 21319

A certain gay character actually confessed to a certain hetero friend.

No. 21320

oo maybe I should check it out

No. 21321

For many years Aarinfantasy had a single donor who donated every month without fail to pay for the server, now that he or she is gone Aarinfantasy is at risk of shutting down

Please spread the word

No. 21322

Fuck they contribute a lot to the community. Please post this information on all popular Fujo circles.

No. 21323

any anons keep up with Owari no Seraph/Seraph of the End? with the way recent chapters are going do you think that MikaYuu will happen or the author will pull a Naruto and pair them off with random female characters?

No. 21324

I dropped it months ago but I seriously doubt a gay pairing will ever be canon. It is a shounen manga at its core.
Either nothing will happen or straight pairings most likely.

No. 21325

yes! thank you so much anon! it was bothering me that i couldn't remember what the hell it was called. thank you!

No. 21326

Does anyone have good recs for a manga where the uke/seme aren't so … distinctive ? Like I don't want a strong dominant man vs a feminine submissive shy man. Some sort of balance would be nice. Like, a bottom with attitude/personality/presence etc

No. 21327

If you are okay with raunchy comedy I recc Yarichin bitch bu

No. 21328

I think the author is fond of MikaYuu but its very unlikely to ever happen because of the demographic.

Kind of odd but I also liked the idea of Shinoa and Mika.

No. 21329

I need to vent about this and because the vent thread would just result into spergy anons screeching at me about degenerate fujos I'm doing it in our safe space: Browsing social media and the anti-fujo discourse drives me fucking nuts. The archetypal people who do it:
>The MLM fakeboi: he/him pronouns, ♂, rainbow flag, Voltron, BNHA. The 19-year old girl who trooned out and now wants to throw every other female under the bus. Acts like only their love for fujo stuff is valid because they're ~a true gay guy~ who's absolutely not fetishizing homosexuality at all unlike all those evil straight girl fujo strawmen!! Usually dating another fakeboi and calling themselves a "gay male cople".
>The "Not like other girls": Dresses in tacky bodyline shit and $3 Aliexpress cat thigh highs, thinks they're the only girl in the world who likes pedobait yuri porn and solely exists to please men whatever it takes, including hating on fujos. Because yuck that's girl stuff!!! And I'm not like those other vapid girls!!
>The suppressed trauma: Had a horrible experience as a 15-year old fujo with their sociopath friend(s) as a teen, now is trying their hardest to detach themselves from their fujo past and is deadly afraid of lesbians even though that one crazy girl who sexually harassed her is now married to a man and got bored of fujo stuff at least 8 years ago. Associates everything related to BL with horny teenaged AoE fics with noncon&angst tags.
>The outsider: All knowledge of fujos is based on parodies and stereotypes from 2006, uses outdated or ignorant terminology (often calls BL "yaoi" and fujos "yaoi fangirls"), unironically thinks Sasuke/Naruto is considered the hottest couple of 2019 and that the otome genre is the same thing as BL. Believes all BL is about raunchy rape porn between a humorously massive "seme" and an "uke" that looks like a little girl.
>The scrote: The guy who simply hates everything that caters to girls and especially if it shows male characters in a vulnerable position. Often a variation of "the Outsider". Is the type of person to throw an autistic brodude fit over seeing two men kiss. Ironically still might like traps.

Every single person I see complaining about fujos falls under one of these categories. The BL community has grown a lot from what it used to be in the beginning and while porn is still a part of the genre, the characters and plots have developed heaps and there's a much bigger selection to every taste. Yet fujos continue to be shitted on the most. Pisses me the fuck off.

No. 21330

theres a short manga called akiyama-kun that might be of interest to you

its sad its become such a dirty word now fakebois commenting that 'fujoshis terrify me' 'we are not your fetish!' when actual gay men dont give a fuck, theres a shitton of gay men on /y/ happy that women have created porn and games that appeal to them. sjw teen girls dont know shit.

No. 21331

at least the fakebois will give it up after a while, i do think some of them are legit trans but like most men they need to shit on women to assert their masculinity

most gay men like yaoi or are otherwise indifferent but i've seen a few who really hate women and use yaoi as an excuse. they're usually into rapey barashit and whine about how yaoi men are disgunsting parodies as if rapey hypermasculine bara dudes are any better lmao

No. 21332

>The outsider: All knowledge of fujos is based on parodies and stereotypes from 2006, uses outdated or ignorant terminology (often calls BL "yaoi" and fujos "yaoi fangirls"), unironically thinks Sasuke/Naruto is considered the hottest couple of 2019 and that the otome genre is the same thing as BL. Believes all BL is about raunchy rape porn between a humorously massive "seme" and an "uke" that looks like a little girl.
Way too many of these retards on lolcow.

But even then, the vitriol seme/uke archetypes attract is fucking excessive. Is it such a crime if women, who have been taught since a young age that being slim, pretty and submissive is necessary if you want to get fucked, can't completely disassociate their taste from that? It's extremely mild internalized misogyny at worst and nobody is really hurt by it. Gay men don't need straight women's approval so I really fucking doubt any of them give a shit about girls wanting hairless bottoms, and straight women get to project the beauty standards they're usually expected to adhere to on men instead of themselves and other women for once. There's no moral highground in wanting to see a big muscley bottom, but not-like-the-other-fujos love to push the 'ewwww feminine boys, only bara is good' bullshit. I really think, subconsciously, they just want to distance themselves from stuff teenage girls like because everyone hates teenage girls. And appease men, since men really hate women not preferring traditional masculinity.

No. 21333

>some of them are legit trans but like most men they need to shit on women to assert their masculinity
It's literally just that internalized misogyny FTTs are known for in their case. That's why they're usually worse about it than normal men; they do it for their smoke and mirrors masculinity.

>buying into the trutrans meme

No. 21334

Absolutely true. I'm a fan of polar opposites and size differences because that just makes following the couple's development and interaction interesting, a lot of people have the same taste. But as you said the hatred the whole seme/uke setting gets is amplified to ridiculous levels.

>There's no moral highground in wanting to see a big muscley bottom, but not-like-the-other-fujos love to push the 'ewwww feminine boys, only bara is good' bullshit.

Glad I'm not the only one who's done with this particular meme. The people who can't shut up about how much they love bara and how it's superior to every other style of BL can get so fucking smug about it. Your hairy fridge build bear daddies with giant dicks aren't much more realistic than the effeminate bottoms in mainstream BL, stop acting like it makes your taste more mature.

>When they act like their 17 years of socialization and maturing as a member of female gender is somehow discarded the moment they change their pronouns on Twitter and cut their hair short
I feel bad for them for falling for it but shit their internalized misogyny became externalized misogyny with the retarded "anti-fujo" movement.

No. 21335

No. 21682

Is it just me or is /ot/ on some really strange anti-fujo sperging kick right now? Scrolling past the first page you keep seeing replies where someone has turned apples into oranges just to ree about nasty evil fujo weebs.

No. 21686

It has increased but I doubt it's that many anons… I think it's mostly that one weirdo who thinks fujos are harassing artists en masse for not drawing their yaois on demand plus a couple of others who hate weebs in general joining in.

No. 21689

I never saw people so adamantly bring up fujos at all before, and suddenly someone is turning every discussion into ranting about how fujos ruin everything and are basically the hitlers of female fandoms. It all sounds so ridiculously underage too with the "fujos force everyone to draw yaoiz and call you homophobic if you don't, reee" rambling too. Did we get an influx of newfags lately?

No. 22226

So A Man/Guy Like You has finally ended.
I'll link it here for anyone who hasn't read it, it's pretty good and I especially loved the expressions and the coloring.

I'm satisfied to finally see the end. Gonna be jealous of any new readers because they'll never know the torture of waiting for each new chapter lol

No. 22231

Does anyone know if there are digital publishers for BL in the west? Localized paperback BL is probably dying here and as much as I love scanlations I 'd like to support the original artist, but I simply don't know where to look for translated series. A lot of my favourites never seem to even get an official translation so I just end up buying the Japanese books to show my support and to have some sort of a memorabilia of something I really enjoy.

No. 24233

I used to be really into yaoi and slash when I was younger but it lost its appeal as I grew up. Now that I'm playing dragon quest 11, I'm dying for some fanart and fanart, but I don't know where to look anymore? Tumblr is dead since the porn purge, and all I can find on AO3 is mc/Erik, which is… Not my cup of tea.

Where are people posting slash nowadays??

No. 24274

>>24233 idk anon, as much as fanfics are still a thing I think its dying… this is just from a fanfic reader veteran-ish and I'm a bit paranoid.

Idk if it possible for fanfic writers to post their shit in instagram or twitter… try wordpress or go back to fanfiction.net if the game is really old or smth…

No. 24285

>>24233 also, I'm a bit hesitant to suggest but try wattpad as well

No. 24286

If it's not on ao3, it's probably just not popular enough since that's where everyone goes.

No. 24287

>>24286 true

No. 24289

Uhh there's June Manga and Sublime Manga. Those are the two I use anyway. I'm sure there's more.

No. 24308

Do you mean you think fanfic as a whole, as a hobby, is dying? Or do you mean that particular fandom? I'ts hard for me to believe in the former happening, what would be replacing it?

No. 24311

idk, anon… haha, I'm just overthinking things if there's something addictive to a certain group there's going to be a fanfic for it anyways.

I feel old. God, I really do.

I remember the time where there used to be an abundance or influx of cosplay skit vids on Youtube that I'd always watch practically every day. New ones coming daily. Now… wew, I can it happens but majority are vids of cosplay panels or con vlogs.

Fanfics used to be big back then but it mellows down with its hype, I guess that's how I see it and then I dramatize the situation to think it was dying. But I understand I think, while everyone has a wild imagination doesn't automatically mean they'd draw or write it down. Not everyone has the talent to do anyways.

No. 24314

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This tweet made it to my TL, thankfully while being made fun of, not agreed with. The OP herself is big into BL but for some reason she has this "I'm better than other fujos" mindset, and she's not alone with this narrative. It's starting to piss me off really bad seeing fellow women punching these strawmen of "evil straight chicks fetishizing muh gays (i.e. girls who trooned out and masquerade as gay men)" when they full well know that a lot of fujoshis are lesbian or bi, or at least openly supportive of gay rights. Where the hell did this fucking discourse start from? The tranny movement and its internalized misogyny again?

No. 24373

>>Being fujoshi is not something to be proud of
excuse me I'll be proud of whatever I want lmao.
>>Having mlm ships is one thing representation does matter.
NO ONE and I do sincerely mean NO ONE goes to the smut section of yaoi for the representation of real life gay people. Shounen Ai is more on the tame side so I can see how some underage girl would look at that and be like ok I wanna see this irl!!!111 but straight up balls to the wall yaoi? Hell no. There's retarded people in every community and I feel like just because some people harass actual gay people irl doesn't mean all of do. Even when I was underage I never bothered literally anyone. If anything I kept it very secret unless I was sure the person I was talking to was also a fujo. If you read the shit at home and only talk about it online with your own community it literally does not hurt the LGBT community literally /at all/. Only when the retarded girls go out IRL and harass people is when it takes a huge retarded turn. Simply keeping to yourself hurts no one. I have no idea why this new wave of fujo hate is coming back in full force. We didn't care about what you thought all those years ago and we sure as hell don't care now.

No. 24442

>There's retarded people in every community and I feel like just because some people harass actual gay people irl doesn't mean all of do.
It must only be the tiniest minority of fujos who actually harass gay people. They're far more likely to harass straight celebrities they ship together than average joe and his average bf that in no way measure up to the cultivated fujo fantasy in either looks or circumstance. Why would they care about random, normal gay guys who don't have a romantic backstory or bishounen looks? That's why they don't ship irl celeb gay couples and always choose imagination based, fictional ships to obsess over.

No. 24495

>I have no idea why this new wave of fujo hate is coming back in full force.
I'm not sure how to explain it with coherent words but I'll try my best. Like mentioned in >>24314 once all the histrionic underage fangirls started trooning out they decided to make it all about them and chase the sane women out of the fandom, so it's just another evolution of ree staceys get out spiel. I recently saw a tweet that actually said something along the lines of "Fujoshi is a straight woman who fetishizes gay men, people who actually appreciate fictional gay relationships are not fujoshi" which is all the condensed proof you need. In reality, these "mlm activists" are just fujos to everyone not christened to their stupid buzzwords and every time they get called one, you can see how the word "fujo" is just supposed to be read as "woman". See this post from the fakeboi thread for a practical example >>>/snow/795328

I have literally never met a cis gay man who claimed fujos are ~oppressing~ them. I've had them being massive thirsty fudanshis (male fujos) and pushing degenerate, kinky BL on me, a lesbian fujoshi though. The only people being butthurt are the "transmen in a gay relationship" i.e. two lesbians with heaps of internalized misogyny&lesbophobia and their equally retarded handmaidens.

I think the "fujos harassing actual gay people" meme originates from the hearsay stereotype of 2005 straight fujos going up to gay guys and being "awww which one is the seme??? :3333" which is obnoxious and socially inept but far from harassment. They're a very small minority and being an oldfag I can confirm that it's ALWAYS been looked down upon in the BL/yaoi community for being absolute brainlet behavior.

No. 24496

how does two guys fucking appeal to you if you are a lesbian and not into men? i thought that it would be like a straight guy watching gay porn. are you only in it for the romantic aspect of it? not judging, you can do whatever you want ofc, just asking out of curiosity. i agree with your points

No. 24498

Question: Do you seriously see the men in BL as actual men and not strongly female-coded people with male bodies? Yeah, me neither. Back in 2000's it used to be a big meme that the men in yaoi are just chicks with dicks. And even without that, you can appreciate the aesthetics of the porn and the well-written sentimental relationships and development the characters share. A lot of gay guys can enjoy lesbian porn, especially animated lesbian porn, despite not being attracted to women because it's often made for male taste. Just like BL is usually made for women by women, and a noticeable share of BL mangakas are bi/lesbian.

No. 24507

>Question: Do you seriously see the men in BL as actual men and not strongly female-coded people with male bodies?
Well…yes, I do.

No. 24514

>Do you seriously see the men in BL as actual men and not strongly female-coded people with male bodies?
Question: why would a woman go through the trouble of writing and drawing a gay male couple as a stand-in for a lesbian couple instead of just…portraying a lesbian couple?
Is it some insane level of internalized lesbophobia or what?

No. 24568

>the "Lesbians must find beautiful 2D men repulsive because they don't want to have sex with IRL men or find them attractive!!!!" meme
Gee I dunno, maybe the popularity of BL within lesbians is that the BL community is 99% women which is why they're drawn to it, they like to read porn with no expectations placed on female characters and they can appreciate the porn made by fellow women? Not everyone wants to self insert into the porn they consume, some people find it awkward and disturbing.

A lot of BL isn't even porn-centric, it's just two males having a meaningful relationship. A lesbian can appreciate well-written straight couples or straight porn too despite there being a male involved. It's not fucking rocket science and I don't know why you guys think it's self-contradictory. Why do so many straight women search up lesbian porn the most despite being attracted to exclusively males?

No. 24572

>> You can appreciate the well-written sentimental relationships and development the characters share
Lmaoo those def aren't the ones I usually go for

No. 24580

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I didn't say that people of different sexual orientations/sexes can't find stories about people with other kinds of orientations/sex interesting or relatable.
However, you implied in >>24498
that the men in BL are meant to be stand-ins for women.
And I do suspect some closeted lesbians prefer drawing BL because it's popular, while yuri and lesbianism are less so and more shunned.
More and more good yuri is coming out, though.
The online comic scene and Korean manhwa scene, in particular, are exploding with interesting works about female characters in general, which is excellent.

No. 24585

>while yuri and lesbianism are less so and more shunned.
(Ntayrt) Not really. More like most yuri is fetishistic trash made by and for skeevy men. Even when it's made by women that's who it usually attracts.

No. 24591

I did definitely notice a yaoi=good, yuri=gross mentality in past fangirl/art circles I have been in.

But do you also think some potentional female yuri artists choose to drawn "chicks with dicks" BL instead of yuri in order to avoid men perving over their work?

No. 24595

Yeah, I absolutely do. Any yuri that includes sex will inevitably attract way more perv males than women. That plus what >>24568 said is why lesbians usually prefer BL.

No. 24597

>But do you also think some potentional female yuri artists choose to drawn "chicks with dicks" BL instead of yuri in order to avoid men perving over their work?
NTA but this is definitely one of the reasons, thank you for bringing it up because I hadn't even thought about it before. If BL was consumed by men I wouldn't personally be so attracted to it. And like other anons said, yuri circles are full of men perving on women (especially lesbians) and I feel uncomfortable having myself sexualized and/or portrayed in the way a lot of yuri manga does. So I prefer reading BL because as sad as it sounds no female characters = no bad female characters to be annoyed by. I also enjoy sharing BL and discussing it with other girls so there's the social aspect to it too.

No. 24601

It's sad. I'm glad there are still good female yuri artists out there, doing the goddess' work heh.
Men need to fuck off, women should be able to enjoy FxF content and not have to resort to yaoi (unless it's what you actually really want…)

No. 24606

Wouldn't call it "resorting", most of us genuinely enjoy BL because it's a great genre made for women by women and not all of us are lesbians thirsting for good lesbian representation. Honestly what are you people doing in a fujo thread to begin with if you're here just to push yuri upon people and treating grown ass women like they aren't able to make decisions for themselves? There's a yuri thread in /ot/, go necro it instead. >>>/ot/134706

No. 24625

can you guys recommend a shounen ai anime that is more story focused than fanservice focused? preferably drama or comedy and nothing too fantastic genrewise

No. 24630

Honestly I thought Hitorijime My Hero was pretty nice and tame. It's student and teacher relationship though, not sure if you're into that. But it's really nice and there's no sex scenes. Though I will say some of the animation is a bit wonky so expect that. The manga is pretty good as well, I recommend you read that as well.
I'm sure everyone and their grandma has seen this but it's pretty nice. its such 2000 humor, tbh even if you aren't into BL I think you can still enjoy it.
>> Sekai-ichi Hatsukoi
Again I'm sure everyone in their grandma has seen this as well but wouldn't hurt to put it
>> Caramel Honey
u-uh I wouldn't say its totally fanservice-y but its pretty lighthearted and well there is a storyline its just kinda cliche (delinquent x shy student)
Er I don't think it's really classifies as shounen ai but it's a very good drama.
>>Hidoku Shinaide
EHHHH WELLLL I wouldn't EXACTLY say this is a shounen ai nor story based PER-SEY but.. I wasn't going to make a list and no include it lmao

No. 24631

And to clarify when I say no sex scenes I mean they don't like show it. It's heavily implied its not explicit or anything (even tho I wish it was tbh lol)

No. 24639

I can only talk about ovas, but
>Kono Danshi series, but they might be too fantastic for your taste? (Kono Danshi, Ningyo Hiroimashita; Kono Danshi, Uchuujin to Tatakaemasu; Kono Danshi, Sekika ni Nayandemasu) (tho I highly recommend them)

No. 24686

Is Love Stage to your liking? It's available on Crunchyroll iirc. Merman in my tub/Orenchi no Furo Jijou isn't probably classified as shounen ai but it's pretty close and it's very comfy and fun.

No. 24696

God I fucking hate how preachy gays are to fujoshi. Most fujos are just young women/teenage girls who think anime boys are cute. Then they get guilted into feeling bad about it. Honestly it's actually downright creepy just how hawkish some of these ADULT gay men are about women consuming 2d porn. And of course, desperate for validation, some girls start to cause drama and infighting.
And that's probably the majority of BL content I see online is teeming with identity politics bullshit. I wish I could go back to like 2009 where the community was more pure and honest. Where fujos actually believed in their ships because of love, not because of "representation" or whatever the fuck.

Also why is it now shameful for straight women to enjoy BL?

No. 24697

Anon they're not gay men, they're young women pretending to be gay men and doing this shit for woke points and BPD fits. Actual gay men don't give a shit and have even been defending BL and fujos during the recent discourse.

No. 24712

NTA but I can't be the only one who thinks that Love Stage sucks right? The art is ugly and the voice of the main character is very grating. I feel like I'm alone in this because everyone is always praising it.

No. 24816

Love Stage's art is only mildly bad, the details aren't horrendous, the color palette for that show is what irks me. If it had a more muted color palette and softened details, it would look better.

Sekaiichi and Junjou are worse from an artistic standpoint, much worse. I don't know how anybody can stomach watching either of them, they're hideous.

No. 24856

Excuse me Nakamura's art is a masterpiece

No. 24865

>>24712 tbh, in terms of story, i prefer backstage (the spin off of the brother and the secretary from lovestage)… love stage was like that cutesy and short yaoi that's basically a breath of fresh air to the typical brooding seme and a meek willing uke or tsundere one so maybe that's why its popular…

No. 24910

>Sekaiichi and Junjou are worse from an artistic standpoint, much worse. I don't know how anybody can stomach watching either of them, they're hideous.
Truer words have never been spoken anon, I have never understood how that shit became so popular.

No. 24939

I'm not even a bl fan but I go through different threads when I get bored. Imo as long as you don't fetishize real gay people or display any other cringey, problematic behavior that makes them uncomfortable, I don't get all the hate.
Lesbian porn with real women is made specifically for men and their fantasies yet no one cries about that.
It's always the easier choice to shame girls and women and target the things they enjoy isn't it

No. 24997

>Lesbian porn with real women is made specifically for men and their fantasies yet no one cries about that.

Only a few radfems. Men need to get about 1000% more shit for their porn.

No. 25081

I don't know, in terms of BL quality I found the story and dynamic between the couples to be too subpar for me to even come close to forgiving the art. That's why I dropped both series.

Luckily, there are some more recent animanga series that don't totally pitfall into the physically repulsive junjou trap.

No. 25082

I ship gay couples. I have nothing against people being interested in gay porn.

But I don't get making it a big focus of your media consumption, both fujos and yurifags, enough that it requires a label. I agree that it's unfair that the western anime fandom only calls out fujoshi and has no "polite" term for yurifags, but if you don't have a fetish for exclusively gay people of the opposite sex and think gay couples are normal then there's no need for a specific title?

No. 25099

>why do fans of a very specific genre need an identifying title????
Listen to yourself. Jesus fuck. Why do star trek fans call themselves Trekkies? Why do anthropomorphic animal enthusiasts call themselves furries? Why do people with refined interested in different types of food experiences call themselves foodies? Why do people interested in Japanese animation and popular culture call themselves weebs? The people "relabeling" fujos as some sort of creeps preying on women are the people who need to shut the fuck up, not the ones using a label to signal their area of interest.

No. 25118

>Why do star trek fans call themselves Trekkies?
Homosexual men are a hobby and fandom?
>Why do anthropomorphic animal enthusiasts call themselves furries?
What a lovely example.
>Why do people interested in Japanese animation and popular culture call themselves weebs?
Do you even know what the word weaboo means?
>creeps praying on women
What are you even talking about?

And read my post again, I'm not against people who enjoy shipping male characters or enjoying that kinda porn, I'm talking about those that make it their whole personality and subject of their art. It's just as much of a fetish as a guy making all of his content about sexualized young women or lesbian couples.

No. 25121

What the fuck is up with all these anons coming in to the fujo thread recently just to make it known that they're not into BL or the fujo scene?

No. 25573

I just read Rutta to Kodama and omg its soooo cozy and I recommend it to everyone it was so nice.

No. 25618

And this is a problem why?
Its still a genre, “fetish” or not

No. 26482

Whoever recommended Seiyuu Danshi is an angel. Just finished playing and the story was both hilarious and wholesome. Too bad the game has little to no fans and now I have no one to talk about it.

Also does anyone have any manga/anime recommendations that aren't too "tropy". By that I mean that it doesn't really use typical tropes and roles and all that "B-but we're both guys!" bs.

No. 26779

Heyy anon that was me actually! I'm glad you liked it as well! I hope the game really pops off it was really fun to play

No. 26811

At least you're aware it's a fetish unlike woke twitter fujos that get defensive and say they're just bonding over the love between boys.

No. 26819

are you esl or retarded? she most likely put quotes around "fetish" for a reason.

No. 26853

Do you have poor socialization skills? Do I need to put an /s at the end of my post to make clear that I'm mocking her, not acknowledging the option that it's not a fetish and bringing the comparison up to further show how ridiculous it looks?

No. 26900

>It's always the easier choice to shame girls and women and target the things they enjoy isn't it
Yup. Fujos are more often than not socially awkward young women. They're seen as easy targets.

No. 30365

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Not sure if this fits, but since the movie is based on a Novel, I try:

Anyone seen "A Round Trip to Love"??
There are 2 parts watchable on Youtube right now. I came across quite randomly, but really liked it. The actors have good chemistry and the storyline was quite surprising between the first and second part.

Does anyone know, if there will be a part 3??

No. 32900

Good BL used to make me feel so warm and fuzzy inside. It gets attacked so much though that now I can't read it without feeling guilty. I wish I could press the undo button on my brain.

No. 39753

Don't feel that way anon! Most of the people hating on it are just trannies with internalized misogyny! I notice most often that the people who hate fujos/yaoi the most are the types who actively read it anyway and are just huge hypocrites.

No. 39807

I'm always scared of watching a BL movie/series, liking it and then being diappointed by the frequent bad endings (specially in chinese movies one of them always dies…).
Can anybody recommend me some with happy endings?

No. 40085

Dont feel bad, anon. I've been reading BL longer than the stupid bitches attacking it have been alive. Like, I'm a big Devil may cry fan since the first game and suddenly after DMCV came out, bitches wanna jump on V's dick and act like shipping Dante and Vergil is morally wrong.

Honestly, there's so little media that panders to BL. just read it if you like it. Men get all the shit. And like other anon said, the women who hate it are usually trannies or internalized sexist people.

No. 40107

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Somewhat piggybacking on that, I always roll my eyes at girls who think they're 'defending gay men' by hating on yaoi, you weren't put on the earth to defend the gender already in power retard let women enjoy something for once without being shamed for it.
Love your point about 'men getting all the shit' because every time something popular by women for women gets popular it's immediately treated as the worst thing to ever happen and will cause the downfall of society.

No. 40110

>after DMCV came out, bitches wanna jump on V's dick and act like shipping Dante and Vergil is morally wrong

Holy shit I can't believe anyone would think V is hot or dislike incest. That's sooo discriminatory.

Imagine if anons ITT posted hot BL instead of whining about imagined persecution, then this thread would be actually useful.

No. 40127

>Imagine if anons ITT posted hot BL instead of whining about imagined persecution, then this thread would be actually useful.
you're so right, i'm tired of anons making everything about men vs women.
it's not like watching hentai or yuri is so acceptable either, unless you're surrounded by greasy weebs.

No. 40458

Anything with catboys? Asking for a friend. Thanks.

No. 40496

Loveless but you've probably already read it

No. 40517

I have literally never. EVER. In my life met a gay man who felt BL was "insulting" or "fetishizing". And I've met a lot of gay men. Quite the contrary, they either enjoy consuming it like the thirsty fudanshis they are AND support the female creators, or they simply don't give a shit because it's just fucking comics and they know fujos aren't a threat to their wellbeing. Because they're not insane. The only "gay men" who have a problem with it are the vapid "not like other fujos" fakeboi trannies who need to feel special every hour of the day and have created this "straight girl who hates real gays and fetishizes anime boys" boogeyman to drive their delusions. What they mean to say "I hate that these stupid cis whores don't recognize me as a beautiful anime bishie and worship the ground I walk on".

Sorry to be blunt and rude with my wording but that's just how it is and it breaks my heart seeing girls be ashamed of liking BL. I had to deal with all the dudebros taking a big old shit on fujos for being "cringy yaoi paddle girls lezzing out" and now I have to see "woke" circles doing it too. BL has helped so many girls, straight and gay, explore their sexuality in a safe environment and offered a Girls Only space that is to this day extremely rare privilege for young women to have. And now these narcissistic troons and their lackeys are trying to break it apart for nothing.

Could you people just fuck off back to your ~fujo cringe~ containment thread? This is like the only goddamn thread on this motherfucking board where anti-fujo spergs shouldn't jump on fujos for pouring their heart out.

No. 40519

Do people unironically, wholeheartedly like Super Lovers? I tried to read the manga a few years ago and it was so boring. I have no idea why it was made into an anime.

Also is anyone reading a manga called Stay Gold by hideyoshico? It's one of the BL mangas I've been keeping up with for a few years and my god, the waiting time between chapters.

No. 40522

I don't think anyone likes Super Lovers, or at least I haven't seen genuine fans. I have no idea why the bottom of the barrel stuff (Like all the shit made by Nakamura) gets an anime adaptation either but I guess it's something Japanese fujos have a knack for.

No. 40531

I used to read it when I was younger but dropped it a long time ago. Tbh the age gap always made me uncomfortable

No. 40561

Idk, I'm wondering too. You must be me because I literally have tried to read that shit several times and each time I get bored. It's so highly rated on manga sites etc. What is it even about?

No. 40588

I have the same question about Okane ga nai. Nobody I know irl or online likes this manga and yet it got an anime adaptation at some point and the manga is still being published as we speak iirc. I went to a comic bookshop a few days ago with a friend and we were surprised to see that Super Lovers and Okane ga nai had new volumes.

No. 40590

Honestly all the BL anime I've seen was shit except for maybe Loveless. But I fell off the anime train in 2012. Was any good BL released since?

No. 40597

I think Okane ga nai is actually a fun manga, I started reading it just to see how shitty it was and surprisingly enough I liked it. I think the anime has caused it to have a worse reputation than it deserves. Yeah it has the small bugeyed uke and massive fridge of a seme thing going on but it's not as bad as people make it out to be.

No. 40623

Given anime is out! Thoughts, ladies? The art-style and animation is lacking from the manga but the music is actually pretty good…

No. 40790

anyone who only got into an anime or manga because of fanart or djs???

i only started t&b (and gave up fast) because of some fucking smutty and amazing djs. like i felt i needed atleast some basic shit so i could understand what happened ot truly appreciate what happened.

No. 40806

That's the only reason I got into T&B too! I watched the whole series because I really liked Kotetsu and thought he was the only interesting character and wished the series had focused more on him. I hated Bunny and didn't give a shit about what happened to him lol. I also didn't care about any of the other characters. Didn't bother watching the movies either. Some of those djs really made it seem like T&B had a really deep and meaningful relationship or something, but they really didn't.

No. 40812

It seems that I am getting into DMC because of how hot V is and how much porn fic of him i've read.
I hate to be that type of fan, but I have to know what the hell I just read porn about.
Also the idea of Dante/Vergil really appeals to me. Or Dante/Nero. Or everyone together, idgaf.

It's funny to me as someone not even being in the fandom how the entire fanbase jumped on shipping V with everyone since he's technically not related to any of the main characters by blood. Funny, since well, he's still Vergil so it's still incest. Fucking a "part of the soul" or whatever of your relative is still fucking your relative, you stupid dumbfucks, just say you're into incest and be done with it, they're fictional, who cares?

No. 40844

yeah, kotetsu was like the driving point of why i fell for the pairing, because the right ppl really know how to write him, damn. like i have read djs where i had to take a break so not to cry. some ppl just got it. and bunny was a diiiiccckk, like …. i don't understand why they bothered putting so much focus on him like the "uwu i lost all my memories, uorobos, me parents, oh so sad" like fuck that. the whole arc w kotetsu was so much more satisfying + i have a thing for the grumpy, older types in any pairing really.
i got into dmc because of the fifth game … call me shallow but i thought the "new" dante was hot. i love a good asshole character that saves the day haha, plus the soundtrack is legit sexy. combichrist ufff. and yeah, like if i'm reading porn or anything related to the series or whatever, i need to know more than a basic google search.

No. 40856

Literally can't remember the exact amount of franchises I've gotten into through doujins lmao. I often browse the selection @ Tora no ana or Mandarake and come across something that looks nice, then get to know the series. I guess this is the reason why the Japanese studios turn a blind eye to the doujin market, it gets their product a lot of free visibility.

No. 40864

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I watched Owari no Seraph because the doujins were great, the actual show kinda sucked though and pretty much dedicated itself to baiting people into watching it to see if Yuu and Mika would get together.

No. 40865

Ok but did they? I dropped it because it was shit. Mika was cute though.

No. 40866

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The series isn't completely over yet but thus far they haven't sadly, seems like the author is gonna pair him with the generic smug waifu even though the anime studio seems to vastly prefer Mikayuu so I wouldn't be surprised if we got a different ending for the manga and anime but that could just be hopeful wishing.

But yeah the only reason to watch the anime is Mika.

No. 40867

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>That picture
Nice. I just don't see how you can bait fujos this hard but still end up with hetero. Even for someone with relatively mild fujoshi goggles, this show went above and beyond with the pandering.

No. 40868

Oh for sure, that's why I think they'll probably do split endings since while the anime studio adds in a ton of Mikayuu (such as one of Mika's men calling Yuu his princess which I don't think was in the manga however him carrying him bridal style was) and the bite scene being a lot more sensual as well as them saying that Yuu was gay in an anime short, but those weren't canon.
Either way it's extremely annoying because it's the only reason to watch the show since outside of that it's shitty as hell.

No. 40871

i'm forever sad vassalord only got one ova, since that could have been so great ugh

No. 40872

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I had to look up the bridal scene because that sounds cute as heck. Based anime studio. Giving us what we want. Thanks for the explanation anon, I might consider picking it up again just because it's the closest thing we'll get to Blood Bank in anime form.

No. 40948

Frankly, I dropped Owari No Seraph.
Judging by what fans told me, I expected a lot more will-they-won't they between teens in an apocalyptic world. Yes, it's there, but there's also fucking school anime bullshit, that uggo waifu with a scythe and a fuckton of equally uggo and stupid supporting characters. Why even make a world with no adults if you gonna let adults survive? Also I hated Yui through the school bullshit, does he ever get over his massive shitting ego?
I basically dropped it around the season 1 at the time we finally got to vampire Mika. Tell me it gets better. I really want my vampire teen bullshit drama. Also will Ferid be important to the plot? I liked him a lot, strangely.
Or should I just read the doujins/fic instead?

No. 40949

Mika is too good for that manga and anime, and Yuu is too stupid to deserve him. Too bad Mika can't be saved and put into a better property because I actually really liked the character.

I'll agree the show was only alright but the first fujobait was RIDICULOUS. The anime likely isn't getting another season though, the manga is all we get. Yuu and Smug Girl is a terrible pairing, I'd honestly rather Mika and Smug Girl if MikaYuu can't happen as I think they'd be more interesting then the author's preferred pairing.

No. 41009

I agree, I don't like Yuu but I ship them because it would make Mika happy to be with him, it really sucks when there's one good character in a cast of retarded shitty characters.

From what I heard the author has a problem of that he always pairs together the most generic self insert main character with his current waifu which sadly doesn't surprise me seeing as how he's a shounen author.

No. 41011

To be honest design wise I think the smug waifu is pretty cute, too bad she has the personality of being Yuu's token future cumrag. The school bullshit luckily doesn't last too long which is the one saving grace because it was intolerably horrible and just so obvious that the writer was trying to cash in on the trend before dropping it.
>Tell me it gets better.
The stuff with Mika is good, but that's it the rest of the characters are still equally as awful Ferid does become very plot important though with him being implied to be some sort of vampire rapist with the vampire loli? Not sure if that was intentional or not though but he does get a huge role.

No. 41029

Personally I'm sticking to fanfic and doujins. The source material just isn't satisfying to me. I don't know how the author manages to make Mika so likable. Yuu is so dumb. So, so very dumb. And he never stops being full of himself. That said if you just got to vampire Mika FINISH THE REST OF THE ANIME. There really isn't that much left afterward and it's a lot better. Not great but actually kind of enjoyable, in large part because Mika gets lots of good scenes. The final episodes of the anime are even kind of exciting. Honestly it was a mistake making Yuu the main character. Mika is not only more likeable but has the more interesting backstory and the vampire world is more interesting than the human world. A good guy stuck working for the bad guys (as it looks from first glance) is more intriguing too. Oh and Mina's closest 'compatriots', Ferid and Vamp loli also provide more entertaining interactions to bounce off Mika compared to Yuu and his dull as dirt team.

Wish I could find s good fanfic where the storyline of the source material is brought to a conclusion, might well be better than the source material. I just want more Mika and Shinoa without all the baggage of the manga's mediocrity.

No. 41067

I started reading the manga and it seems like a nice series. I was surprised that the animation in the show when they play isn’t too bad looking either.

No. 41113

It slowly turns into suffer porn which is nice because I like seeing boys cry. I'm glad that the focus in the anime seems to be on the music.

No. 41961

Okay, but are there any actually good BL anime?
The only one I've seen that was good was Doukyuusei, but it's honestly kinda boring to me compared to all the other Nakamura Asumiko works so I can't enjoy it fully, knowing she can do shit like J no Subete, but her most popular series is a milquetoast school fluff.

I just want to see animation of moderate quality and the main couple not being cliche assholes or extremely bland for once.

I am really geting my hopes up for Given, but I hate watching ongoing series so I would be late to the party as always.

Also. Was Banana Fish good? Heard vastly differing opinions. Should I read the manga or just watch the series?

No. 41969

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I'm really particular about art style, and I hate seme-uke stereotypes with a burning passion. If you have similar thoughts, you'll enjoy the same things I did:

I liked the Banana Fish manga a lot, but it's not for everybody. The show is… okay. I sort of prefer manga by default though, because I'm a fast reader and I'm picky about animation.

Canis (pic related) is a really good BL manga. It has a really cool art style in my opinion. Stop reading when the story about the two leads ends though, because it gets weird and meandering after that. It's my all-time favorite BL manga.

Koimonogatari is a pretty similar manga to Doukyuusei- just a slice-of-life about the characters falling in love and coming out. Probably not what you're looking for, but I figured I'd mention it.

Shimanami Tasogare is really amazing, but it's not BL, it's just the story of one kid coming out. There's only an implied romance at the very end for the MC.

Yami no Matsuei isn't technically BL, but it might as well be. It's one of those situations where the characters' interactions are obviously romantic, they just won't call each other a couple lol. I personally like the anime better than the manga, but obviously the manga goes on longer and is good in its own right. If you like Yu Yu Hakusho, you'll like Yami no Matsuei- very similar tonally imo.

If you like retro stuff and don't mind something that's really bizarre and sexual, Ai no Kusabe (the 1992 OVAs) are cool. They have a really nice art style.

The Tokyo Babylon OVAs are nice too as far as retro BL goes. The story is continued in the mangas, but it does get sad. It's got a little bit of the seme-uke stuff visually, but it's written well enough that I was willing to overlook it.

Ganbare! Nakamura-kun!! has an absolutely adorable retro-inspired art style. It's cutesy and slice-of-lifey, which might not be your thing. The main character is kind of awkward. He reminds me a lot of Tsukimi from Kuragehime.

No. 41974

Yes I am the same! Thank you for so many new things, based anon!

I actually watched Yami No Matsuei when I was like 13 and most of it went over my head besides "huehue muraki sexy". I probably need to rewatch it. (And YuYu too since I adore HxH and was going to get to it eventually, tho it's offtopic in this thread)

No. 42033

I love super lovers fuck it I guess im the only one lmao

No. 42039

You got damn good taste, anon!!

I love YnM so much and i loved the manga more for the art, but the anime was great too. I'll forever be salty that she never finished Yami no matsuei, even though it was her best work and we'll forever be in the worst cliffhanger ever.

No. 42059

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I tried watching Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation, but something about it scrambled my brain. The animations are a little lacking and the subtitles are so fucking fast.

I might try watching it again though.

No. 42074

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Anyone else hoping Enstars gets an English release after the anime finishes airing? Yuzuru and Tori are such a cute ship and it's pretty much the only male idol game I know of that has heavy BL undertones.

No. 42075

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Not sure if it counts but Evangelion 3.0's main focus is the main BL ship of the franchise.

No. 42084

shimanami tasogare is one of all time fav mangas and i'm forever sad it got discontinued due to lack of engagement and sales …. like ……. atleast we got a weeding.

No. 42177

It counts because it's canon. and i loved the art for 3.0 . It had some great perspective shots during that piano scene

No. 42399

My Good Sister I've been lusting after English Enstars content for ages. The game is so complicated to play without decent Moonspeak skills and this would be a dream come true because I'm all in for the gay idol babies. Glad to find another woman of culture, most male idol franchises are just for otomefags.

After a few episodes I'd definitely say watch Given, either now or when it finishes airing. It's probably the first Non-cringeworthy BL anime I've ever seen and they're pretty hard to find because they're often given a nonexistent budget and made to deviate from the original source material a lot for whatever reasons. Something like the Foreign love affair anime was a goddamn insult to the original Yamane manga.

Also I think Sarazanmai can be counted as an anime with BL undertones at least and it finished last month, maybe give it a watch? It's trippy Kunihiko Ikuhara content but I liked it a lot. No. 6 is also a classic but the main couple is bland as shit though so it might not be up your alley. Here's to hoping that BL anime will get more numerous in the future after the success of the recent series.

No. 42404

Same anon, although the plot was pretty shitty in comparison to the original anime it was an extremely beautiful movie (especially the piano scenes damn) and the Kawoshin scenes were well worth the watch of it.

No. 42405

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>The game is so complicated to play without decent Moonspeak skills
Right? That's why I just decided to wait and see if it comes out in English instead of going through complicated shit to play it in Japanese and check the wikia every 5 seconds. Also no offense to otomefags, but god the guys in those idol games are ugly meanwhile in more fujobaity ones like enstars they're all super handsome/cute.

No. 42408

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Is that show about the gay chinamen any good or do people only watch for the idols?

No. 42418

>god the guys in those idol games are ugly meanwhile in more fujobaity ones like enstars they're all super handsome/cute.
If this ain't true. I have nothing against otomeshit even though I don't enjoy it myself but I swear the boys are SO ugly in all of them. Their faces are always off somehow in an uncanny way and they have the most hideous designs that have zero personality to them. The enstars boys look so lively and cute/handsome I find them much more enjoyable and interesting, especially with the flashy personalities.

No. 42419

Due to censorship reasons they've made it into a "bromance" drama so if you expect to see explicit bl you won't see it.
Afaik the drama is popular among young women but ive heard that people (who don't watch it for the guys) find it an ok drama.
There's another "bromance" drama called "guardian" and the actors are legit in that one so if you're bothered by subpar acting you should watch that one instead. And then there's "addicted" which IS bl but I'm sure you know about that one.

No. 42568

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anyone into literal catboys? if you're of the furry persuasion and you like BL, i suggest checking out Nekojishi. you can get the game on steam for free, and there's a voice pack available (voices are in Chinese) for about $6 USD. there's also some DLC too.

I think the only thing is that if you get it from steam the 18+ scenes are not included. you have to get it from the creator's website to have those scenes present in the game.

I've been playing it for about two weeks now, and I really think it's cute.

No. 42569

forgot to mention, there's English, Chinese, and Japanese text available for the game. I can only speak to the English translation, but it seems to be well done and doesn't read awkwardly at all.

No. 42583

No. Furries fuck off right now.

No. 42649

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No. 42661

Fuck off and die furfag.

No. 42663

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I think the best example of god awfully ugly guys in otome idolshit is the ones from that Uta no Price sama game, goddamn the guys are so fucking ugly. I'm hoping eventually they make a full on fujo idol game that gets an English release though enstars is the best for now I suppose.

No. 42666

It´s been so long I thought about YnM, even though I loved the manga so much.
I also adore Tokyo Babylon til this days. In my opinion it is super underrated, it hurts.

I will check out the rest of your recommondations, since it seems like we share preferations.

No. 43118

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since we seem to have some enstars anons here, what’s everyone’s favorite ships? mine are leokasa, shuumika, reikao and makoizu

No. 43165

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i like eiwata and maoritsu but tomohaji has a special place in my heart. subahaji is cute too.

No. 43893

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Generally I self insert as the top. I'm a lesbian. If I had been born a man, I'd be a gay man. Idk. It's like fantasizing about being a homosexual on easy mode (male) instead of being a homosexual on hard mode (female).

No. 43904

tmi, anon.

No. 43919

that's the stupidest thing I've ever read

No. 43997

>Self inserting in yaoi
Please don't.

No. 44010

I bet you this is how fakeboiz think.

No. 44104

For sure. The whole 'I'm a kawaii smol uke boi uwu' thing they always spout never fails to make me laugh however, since they're always just homely looking girls with pixie cuts.

No. 44109

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im sick of shitty smutty bls being the only ones that get animes i'm fine with smut but i just want something nice and cute like harukaze no estranger or something interesting like koimonogatari

No. 44112


No. 44127

ik this is an old post but who is the artist? looks cute

No. 44181

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Tan Jiu

No. 58225

And this is why most people lurk instead of contributing to the discussion.

No. 58288

You bumped the thread just for this? Is there some sperg who keeps trying to start infighting in this thread when they get bored?

While it's still up, does anyone know any good communities where to follow latest BL releases?

No. 58600

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Holy shit I read harukaze no etranger because of your post and I fucking loved it. It kind of reminded me of Shimanami Tasogare, because it's more of a story about acceptance than about a building romance.

Also pic related is hilarious out of context.

No. 59510

Self inserting is stupid no matter how you slice it.

No. 59511

this is the most retarded thing i've read on here. who lets themselves become this broken because of yaoi. a legit question from a long term fujo who isn't batshit

No. 59795

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Anyone still interested in a discord for older fujos? Just found this thread and I really, really want to be able to discuss m/m porn (specifically fucked up shit) with people more my age. I've been into this shit since the early 00s and my greatest fandom memories are from the pre-tumblr era, now I can't draw or write anything without the typical mass shaming from hypocritical internally misogynistic anti-fujo kids that have completely taken over fandom. I just want to be able to create and share art and sexuality freely again and not be constantly paranoid of being called a rapist/pedo/fetishit etcetc

No. 59805

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No. 59815

I'm down for it. I remember fanfiction.net and all those places before ArchiveO3 existed.

No. 59942

I'm interested. Is there anything similar for yaoi RP? All the good RPers have become SJWs now.

No. 60383

Hell yeah

No. 61483

If someone made a discord server for this id join for sure

No. 61484

If someone made a discord server for this id join for sure

No. 62744

I'd definitely be down for a discord server or any other anonymous messaging platform. I find it awfully hard to find like-minded older fujos so I only follow Asian artists who feel no shame with their kinks and don't have to deal with anti-fujo witch hunts. I'd even take an already existing server that wasn't bullshit. Every time I see a promising one it's either dead as a doornail or has that notorious "LGBTQ+ inclusive space" attached to it which is basically a code word for "full of insane SJW snowflakes who have the trans flag as their twitter avatar".

This is why I only RP with trusted friends now. I have to be sure I won't be called out a year later as a pedophile for shipping two fictional teenagers.

No. 64101

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Any really good art/pretty boy recs? I really like Ogeretsu Tanaka's style. Writing can be trash for all I care.

No. 64149

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whoever recommended this garbage deserves to get shot on sight

No. 64191

has anyone played hashihime and how was it? (yaoi game that got localized and released a month ago). i usually follow new yaoi releases but i haven't been able to find time to play it

No. 64196

We’re all trapped in it for the long game now.

No. 64201

When will Touma fucking come out to his brother and when the hell will Tai do something? Anything at all?

No. 64207

This whole manga seems to go the shoujo format aka nothing will get resolved or done until the last 5 chapters have fun being cucked for 212 chapters

No. 72725

It's very good anon, probably the best BL game in English. Some routes are duds but they're some of the shorter ones.

Honestly more one you play for the story and atmosphere/style than the romance but there is some good romance in there, it's just very slow building. Also it will be a long time before you get to any ero and it's only one scene per route, but the scenes are pretty long.

Minakami is best boy.

No. 72748

Where this discord at

No. 72756

Seconded. I'm a youngfag but I don't get offended by dubcon and other "non-pc" things typical to BL.

I want in lmao.

No. 72806

i’m also a younger fujo but darker bl elements are my jam. please let us in.

No. 73192

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Thirded, I've been wanting another good BL server for a while now.

No. 73270

I'll make it if someone wants to help co-admin.

No. 73271

No. 73345

A little empty, but I appreciate you making it anon!

No. 73352

I don't have any fujo friends unfortunately. Feel free to share it among your friends if you think they'll like it!

No. 73354

monthly releases are so cursed

No. 73799

Is there an updated link?

No. 73804

No. 73983


No. 74144

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The Digimon Hacker's Memory game has a literal faggot into the MC. Just thought some of you might like to know.

No. 75118

This game's been on my list because I like the artstyle and heard it was good. I gotta say the designs are very cute so that makes me want to play it more.

No. 75131

Complete Edition recently came out on Switch and PC, and it's basically two games in one. I'd get that.

No. 76195

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Girls I'm currently facing a dilemma
>currently in Japan, manga are way cheaper than in my country, whether second hand or from your average bookstore
>shit load of BL manga are easily available in bookstores that specialize in manga, the Ikebukuro Animate has an entire floor full of it and shojo manga
>planned on staying for a year and would like to come back to my country with books I'm gonna buy, which could be expensive by itself
>my Japanese isn't perfect but I can read manga and simple texts just fine if I occasionally look up some kanji
>a lot of BL manga are also published in my country and while it's more comfortable reading them in my first language books in general are much more expensive, sometimes even if bought second hand
>but keeping up with releases in my country would mean that I'd have to wait until I'm back, and not everything is guaranteed to be translated anyway
>but apparently some BL manga are uncensored in my country (I think that's at least the case for boku no omawari-san according to the mangaka's twitter? not sure anymore)
>but they can be hard to find where I lived, ordering books online or going to the local anime con was the way to go
What do?

No. 76220

Buy Japanese obviously!! Gives you incentive to git gud at the language.

No. 76236


This. >>76220 You get to brush up on your Japanese and get rarer, cheaper titles. Some of which probably will never get localized or fan translated.

No. 76288

I agree with the other anons, buy the Japanese titles and get better with the language. A lot of titles include furiganas for whatever reason too so there's no excuse.

And then scanlate all the rare better titles that never get localized for us it's a deal

No. 76382

Ok, thanks for your opinions! Not sure I'll be able to stay for a year as it depends on if I find a job (hopefully a full time job for maximum money) but as soon as I have a stable source of income I'll try to start a collection. I already have a few books in my first language but most BL are one or two volumes long so it should be fine. I already bought a few books because I read them online and I already liked them.

I'll have to read with google translation on my phone for the kanji on I always forget and that's how I used to practice English when I was a teenager reading fics online but it's so much more annoying and time consuming to draw kanji on a touch screen.

No. 76404

If you have an android phone you can directly translate what is on front of you through the "Google lens" function on your camera. Apple might have something similar.

No. 76552

I know, I've tried it a few times with signs recently but it's not very accurate half of the time. But I suspect it's because of my phone's camera being shitty so many kanji and some of the hiragana and katakana are wrong when I scan texts this way.

No. 81707

Does anyone listen to BL dramas? Any recommendations?

No. 81873

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Something that’s been bugging me

How come BL has managed to become a financially viable niche in Asia, but in the West the closest equivalent is unpaid m/m fan works?

Every original piece of gay media that comes out in English is angsty or has an after school special message of how homophobia is bad. Where’s the idealized tropey harlequin style combo of romance and sex?

No. 81874

Long story short, because Japan has different cultural conceptions of homosexuality. 'Gay' is not an identity in the same way that it is in the West (or at least this is the case historically).

No. 81876

same anon, let me add that as far as I know, this is the case in the rest of Asia (someone correct me if I'm off). I'm not Japanese but have East Asian/confucian background, and 'gay' is not viewed as an identity, it's a behavior. So…there's not REALLY sexual identity crises or angsty coming out (which is what you always get in Western media). You'd get backlash if you chose to run off with a partner instead of get married and have a family, but in that case it's not a denial of 'who you are', it's enforcing a familial/societal duty.

sage because I'm not sure I answered your question lol. Damn anon, this is really interesting and I think I might actually go and read more about homosexuality and the history of men who have sex with men in Japan.

No. 81877

Interesting, but I’m mostly salty that i can’t get physical BL novels and web dramas in English like they do in Asia. But i did learn something new today.

No. 81878

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Oh man anon, I feel you. I was literally trying to track down older BL dramas today and all I could find were LJ reviews from 10+ years ago and a five-minute clip for pic related. I'm so grateful for subbers. Be the change you want to see in the world lol

(anyone else here a dirty seiota who tracks down BL because their fave seiyuu is topping??)

No. 81908

>Where’s the idealized tropey harlequin style combo of romance and sex?
I could be wrong but isn’t that what Guilt Pleasure has been doing?

No. 81955

Never getting them now thanks to SJWs.

No. 81975

IDK if it's still being update but Kazuya Minekura has this not BL but BL series called Wild Adapter and I think it gets ignored too much. I used to buy the manga when Tokyopop was a thing but IDK if there's any legit scanlations for it rn.

No. 83042

Has anyone ever bought from Book Walker? https://global.bookwalker.jp/

Looks like there's a lot of translated BL for sale.

No. 83183

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made an oldschool fujo (meaning 25+) discord: https://discord.gg/z6MHuKD

come join!

No. 84348

>Can't stand a sexualized female character with no other personality than to be the love interest for the male protagonist
>Can't stand how a well-written female character is degraded into an awkward romantic relationship with the protagonist male because there simply needs to be one so men don't feel like the protagonist is too ~gay~
>Get called a ~misogynist fujo cunt~ for this
Bitch point out the part where I said I can't stand this stupid forced romantic setting with nothing interesting to offer to me as a woman simply because the character is female and I hate other women. Yeah there are spergs who want to kill every female character ever to prevent them from ruining gay ships but they're usually either very young or joking. I grew so tired of pretending to like the bad, forced female characters/relationships in order not to be branded as "one of those fujos" but it's over, homegirl isn't even real so the only feelings getting hurt are the waifu thirsting men and the women who self-insert in order to ship themselves with the male characters. I'm out.

No. 84415

>Ai no Kusabi

My veteran heart. I saw the 1992 ovas in the early 2000s and fell in love with the series. The worst part was the remake looked SO GOOD, but production kept getting cut until there was only 4 or 5 episodes based on the light novels, which as far as i know, were not translated to English. It's so frustrating because I looooved Ai no Kusabi so much and it's very blade runner type world.

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I know it's been a while since the game was released but I need to talk about how buttmad I am that you can't romance the guys in P5. There are like 9 waifus and we don't even get Goro. Kind of surprised after how much gay teasing there was in P3/P4. P5 MC's design is such fujobait too

No. 84591

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I’m surprised there’s no Homer x Mr. Burns fandom

No. 84664

>Surprised there’s no Homer x Mr. Burns fandom
>both are fucking ugly
I assume either you don't know shit about fujos or are trolling

No. 84711

nta but the fuck are you on? fujos ship anything from pokemon, children's movies to plays they've never watched. sometimes the uglier, more 'obscure' the ship, the more they're into it. i don't think you know how degenerate they can be.

No. 84713

Nah it's more Skinner and Chalmers.
And more so fundas rather than fujos who are into that.

No. 84739

I'm currently playing Persona 5 Royal (nearly done) and this crushed all my hopes for some Akechi romance, even though deep down I knew Atlus would never allow it to be. Idk why men are so triggered at the thought of having gay options, back when P5 was coming out and people were discussing the possibility of a gay romance option (due to Yosuke in P4 apparently intended to be one but removed) and there were hordes of fanboys throwing a tantrum about how "they don't have anything against gay people but the MC should be straight, fuck your forced diversity pushing!!!!". God it's not like they would dress the MC up in rainbow gear to stick it to the ~straighties~, having a normal, optional romance option that just happens to be gay is all I'm asking for. How come women have no problem romancing girls in games but when men have the option to, not even forced to, romance guy characters it's suddenly inexcusable and wrong?

Fuck man, I'm so disappointed. Akechi was the one with the most interesting back story, a ton of depth and we don't even get to touch that detective prince ass. At least the game making you actually hang out with him instead of tying the confidant level to the story progression was nice.

also no spoilers for P5R pls

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lol yeah, throw us a bone! I know this is beside the point you're making, but…honestly…I would have even been thrilled with a hidden gay option where if you picked the correct dialogue, you'd eventually get the romance, but otherwise the confidant would stay platonic. (And they apparently were cool with making Yusuke's confidant relatively homoerotic, anyway…??)

Actually, it'd be cool if all date-able characters were platonic by default when increasing their confidant, and the romance flag is only activated if you choose 'flirty' actions. That way, no one has to to sit through any ships they don't care about.

NGL anon if I had the skills, I'd make an Akechi-dateable mod. In the meantime, here's some Ren/Akechi for you anon

No. 84899

also, re: Yosuke, even without fujogoggles on, I can get the impression that he was written as
a character who is attracted to Yu but is hilariously in denial about it. They even ran with it in the anime and spinoffs.

Yosuke's hidden lines in P4 are interesting. No one really knows what the lines were for, even if they claim they do - I haven't found concrete evidence that Yosuke was/wasn't going to be dateable. (Maybe someone should ask the VA who recorded the lines?) A lot of people speculate that he had been a dateable character because of all the subtext in the game between him and Yu/MC. If it turned out that he was supposed to be a love interest, then Yosuke's in-game behavior makes a lot more sense. God, I wish there was more P4 meta out there.

No. 84990

The game has three considerably older, adult women you can be involved with romantically, one of them is even your teacher. I would be fine with Kawakami doing sex work in desperation to make ends meet because that sadly happens irl, Ohya trying to bribe a high schooler for scoops and Takemi using you as a guinea pig but the fact that they made them romantic options yet making Akechi one was a step too far is pathetic. In all honestly even without my fujo bias playing the game I was the most interested in the chemistry he and the MC had because of how polar opposites they are due to Akira/Ren overcoming his shortcomings and coping with being fucked over by adults while Akechi is bitter about being left alone to survive in a world where he's constantly abused and taken advantage of by grownups. The MC was literally his only link to happiness, unlike the other confidants who were connected to at least someone else in their lives. What a fucking tragedy and a missed opportunity.

Sorry for hijacking the thread with P5 stuff but it's fresh in my mind rn and I'm so salty about it lmao, thanks for the support sister fujo

No. 85025

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lmao ikr? They threw in every single woman as waifu, including the skeevy as hell ones and the boring ones. Why not give us at least one guy?

There's nothing fujo about MC/Akechi really, they objectively have chemistry and what would be a genuinely good story. If I ever figure out modding, imma dedicate the Akechi romance route to you anon.

Please keep posting as much P5 stuff as you want, the meta is great and I have an excuse to dump some cute art.

No. 85059

Sure, a Nemu-tier wierdo or two may ship it. I doubt there would be an active fandom for a gross pair like this. Popular fujo ships contain at least one fuckable character. Sorry but even Onceler selfcest had more appeal than this kek. Which is why there is no interest in the Simpsons ship

No. 85060

Why do you guys act like P2 doesn't exist when there's a canon homo in it

No. 85063

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Who said we don't appreciate P2? And anyway, if we already had Tatsuya/Jun, wouldn't it mean there's no reason NOT to be able to date guys in other games? There's no gay quota…

No. 85067

i wasn’t a massive akechi fan when i played but a confession from ryuji would’ve fit in so well with his confidant. him opening up to ren towards the end felt like a much more natural progression into a romantic connection than “we pretended to date and i liked it so we should really date” and other boring displays of chemistry in the game. i wish they had some guys to romance and some women you can’t, it would mean their characters could be way cooler. they can’t have a woman who’s a disgraced politician or affiliated with gangs or just doesn’t look cute because you have to want to date them all, so they all need to be younger than mid 20s and not too seedy. the persona series has me conflicted a lot

No. 85077

I'm glad some anons know about P2. I swear, most persona fans got into the series during 4 (or worse) 5 and forget the better games before them.

No. 85080

p2 had better staff

No. 85592

I know about it of course, but Persona wasn't as main stream back then as it is now so it kinda exists in its own category. If they added a gay romance option now it'd probably make all the waifufagging male fans throw a temper tantrum and they'd be too afraid of the backlash caused. Back then nobody cared because the series wasn't as based on attracting waifufags as it is now. It's a shame because P5 was an amazing game story- and gameplay wise so the way it occasionally plays into the waifufag pockets is distracting and annoying. Like did Kawakami really have to wear that fucking maid outfit?

Like another anon said above they clearly had no trouble making Yusuke have gay undertones and the game even baits you with the swan boat confidant scene so why the fuck would they not make the boys dateable. To be honest even though I'm team Akechi at times Ryuji's and the MC's relationship seemed like it was much intimate than with any of the girl characters. Don't know if it's just me being a biased fujo but quite a many of the female romance options were really awkward and out of place. MC gave me more "that gay best friend" vibes when interacting with girls lmao

No. 85858

Speaking of fatlus games, I got really into Bunny x Yamato from DeSu2 and Heat x Serph from DDS.

No. 85865

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Just a reminder that one of Ren's alt costumes is literally a cop dominatrix outfit.
Swan boat date, offering to strip, waking up in bed with twinky human Morgana, turning Ren into a hot trap…all good, but making guys dateable? Nah man that's gay

No. 85867

Japan is absolutely retarded. Remember this is the same country that created the 'traps arent gay' mentality and gave us Link in literal women's clothing in Breath of the Wild.

No. 85869

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It was a joke, anon, but what you said was also kind of the point I was making.

No. 85874

>twinky human Morgana
Okay, I wasn't buying P5R but now I am.

No. 85901

I really need to get into DeSu when I'll beat some games I already started. I have both games on the 3DS already. Also Heat/Serph is great and I heard that the novels had a lot of gay moments with them. The novels were supposed to be the original story before the novelist had to be hospitalized while DDS1 and 2 were in the middle of development, so far only the first 2 volumes are officially translated in English and Serph won't stop narrating how handsome and sexy Heat looks in the first volume, it's ridiculous.

No. 85936

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All this Persona talk has me wondering seriously…would a gay option really make Atlus (or any other game developer) lose money? Japan or otherwise?

Maybe they should take a cue from Evangelion, fujos toss $$$ at you when you crank up the gay. And it's not like they lost the waifufags for it. Bam, you get the best of both worlds profit-wise.

No. 85941

Fujos in Japan actually prefer it to not be outright yaoi in these games. They like the weird teasing and projecting they can do from that, it's absolutely retarded

No. 85956

tbh I think this is a mistaken assumption a lot of people make, even about their own preferences.

The problem is that 99% of the time, we're stuck choosing between shitty canon BL that exists solely for the romance storyline, and a non canon couple from a high quality series that has great writing and chemistry but don't get together. But how many examples do we have of male main characters in a great series that just happen to get together eventually, despite not being BL genre? If there was a truly beloved non canon couple that got together, fujos would be happy. Maybe it wouldn't work for the sort of series that has a tonne of conflicting ships, but a lot have a juggernaut main ship that wouldn't piss anyone off.

All my fujo heart really wants is the couples that I enjoy by virtue of their characterization and relationship, just being written to end up together like any normal straight couple.

No. 85969

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You've just articulated why I consume far more fan/doujin works of non-BL series than actual BL.

No. 85972

What is my weak heart seeing T.T? the otpest of otps

No. 85974

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anon <3
btw, I am the one who made the server, I closed the invite link but will open back up if anyone is still interested

No. 85976

Maybe I’d lurk…

No. 85979

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Fujos loved Yuri on Ice though didn’t they? There’s no ship switching or pairing options and you got to admit it’s a pretty decently done couple for romance.
We’re having a lot of fun, the more the merrier

No. 85998

They pander to women and fujo way more in other megaten games so I'm guessing it's not worth taking that risk in Persona when the fujo audience has already been throwing a shit load of money at them for decades in the first place. In Japan SMT4 Apocalypse got released the same year as in P5 and I remember that 1) fujo were already playing P5 anyway and 2) many of them were playing SMT4 Apocalypse and losing their shit (in a good way) at the potential gay mpreg gay endings if you choose to follow Dagda he makes you a god and lets you revive one of your allies as your devoted "goddess" to rule over the world and that applies to your male allies as well.

Meanwhile the male Persona audience is made of total nerds who know about fujoshi and know where to expect fujo fanservice even if they don't care or like it, and normies who could potentially be put off by it and think it's a gay dating sim. Strangely enough I think the guys obsessing over waifus are otaku AND normies in an equal number, nerds are into it and normies pretending to be JRPGs experts are vocal in a "look I'm a nerd too!!!1!" way.

No. 86005

All of this. I wish the popularity of recent gay-toned content (Promare for example) would encourage more producers to include M/M content like any other straight couple. I'm not here to get some sort of a virtue signaling yass queen slay the straights bones westshit always throws at is audience, I'm here to see gay stuff normalized. I've seen a lot of mangas during the recent years that include pretty obvious gay couples in series that are not about them but I'd just want to see them become confirmed canon for once. Japan doesn't have the same sort of deep-rooted homophobic history as the west has as the current stance was actually hammered in by western imperialists 100 years ago so they still have preserved this tolerance for same sex couples to be extremely intimate just as long as they don't say they love each other from feudal times.

>normies who could potentially be put off by it and think it's a gay dating sim
It fucking kills me though to think that any time any anime, manga or weeb game has any gay or pretty male content it's immediately branded as "for gays" in the west and it immediately puts everyone off.

No. 86006

… a link. yes. please.

No. 86045

ahhh here it is! sorry for the delay https://discord.gg/RVZTJj. Let me know if it doesn't work

No. 86092

>it's immediately branded as "for gays" in the west
Yeah, at least in the US but since Persona was always only translated in English and just sold as is in Europe, and only Europeans that are already familiar with the US knew about it for a while. That's just how marketing works there I guess, so now even when something isn't marketed that way people will assume it actually is out of habit.

But really, as much as Western and Japanese nerds complain about "rreeeee fujoshit get out, not everything is gay reee" they usually don't care THAT much and I even met a bunch of guys who act like this online who actually are pretty happy to meet other nerds irl (in cons or else where) even if they're fujoshi as long as nobody involved isn't a total sperg. But in Persona's case it seems to be THE money maker for ATLUS since they nearly went bankrupt not long ago before being bought by SEGA, which is why they made so many P4 spinoffs so they can't really be too experimental with the series anymore, meanwhile SMT and its other spinoffs are successful in Japan no matter what they do but more niche in the West so they've got nothing to lose so far. The fujoshi who like JRPGs already play games from the entire franchise and are pandered to as a result of being loyal, supportive fans, male nerds either don't care or are ok with fujo fanservice, or at worse make constant jokes about Yamato wanting to fuck Bunny all day everyday. But normies who are a potential new target demographic for Persona thanks to its new success won't give a shit about megaten as a whole so I wouldn't be surprised if Atlus gives us more weird gay scenes (as well as more innovations in terms of gameplay in general) like in SMT4A instead. And keep inmind that said male normies are on the same level of "I'm a gamer guurl" and rely on sites like Kotaku to get news on the series so I'm sure many think it's too gay (so they wont buy games) or not lgbTTTTQQQ enough (so they won't buy it either), or too problematic in general (same deal)

Now I wonder what will happen to the future of Persona since the current team wants to move on to other projects within Atlus and a new team as already been designated to work on the series. Maybe they'll take more risks (in general I mean)? They're the same developers that made Catherine Fullbody have a gay route so who knows. And I wish I had some knowledge about the Japanese fandom, I can just guess that kinda older fujoshi like megaten a lot since the beginning but that's it.

No. 86135

May I get a new link? I'm interested on joining lol

No. 86164

Anon, your tastes are superb

No. 86169

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new link to old school fujo discord! https://discord.gg/Dp2uaDY

No. 86416

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I've remembered a kinda old manhwa "The Summit" lately and bought the serie cheap again. This serie was never finished because of some mental health issues the author appearantly struggles with. I guess after all this years this serie will never be finished.

Any recommendations for some manga/manhwa/doesn't matter with a similar feel and story overall???

No. 86456

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I heard somewhere that Karma And Nagisa was supposed to be canon, either way they are suuuuper cute together

No. 86483

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>fujos ship anything from pokemon
>Implying pokemon doesn't have attractive trainer characters

No. 86484

I think I read somewhere that Nagisa was originally meant to be a girl and it would have been canon? No idea if that's true or not, but I'm not sure why they didn't just bite the bullet and make it full fledged canon, Nagisa is literally a trap anyway.

No. 86485

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I also heard he was meant to be a girl, but he's not just a trap Nagisa has more shape and ass than half the girls in the show

No. 86486

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That's pretty easy to do when the only other girl who gets regular screen time is the autistic girl with green hair.

No. 86487

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what does screen time have to with Nagisa having thick child bearing hips

No. 86488

Just bringing up how it's not hard for him to look better than the girls when only like, two of them ever get more than one line. Either way Assclass is better for Karmagisa yaoi than the actual show.

No. 86489

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>Either way Assclass is better for Karmagisa yaoi than the actual show.

yeah the author clearly wanted Karma to fuck Nagisa

No. 86490

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Guessing it was typical shounen jump that said 'no gay even if the guy looks exactly like a girl'.

It makes me wonder why people believe bnha of all things is going to have the first gay canon ship in shounen jump when even assclass didn't go through with it.

No. 86491

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it really wouldn't be that controversial, Nagisa was literally only ever shipped with Karmaa no one else
the male fans nor the female fans both supported the ship unanimously

No. 86492

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Japan's a weird and picky country and shounen jump is usually pretty scared to go the slightest bit out of the typical romance that they pair up.
Also it's pretty rare but there were people who shipped Nagisa with before mentioned green autism and koro sensei for some reason…Karma has a bit more variety though since he also gets shipped with the principal's son personally I can't ship either of them with anyone else.

No. 86503

Are you fucking kidding me. Shounen manga is aimed at boys, of course there won't be gay shit in there

No. 86504

>Nagisa was literally only ever shipped with Karmaa no one else
>the male fans nor the female fans both supported the ship unanimously
Well that's just not true outside of tumblr. Nagisa/Kaede has a pretty big following particularly amongst fanboys.

No. 86539

Fam Yoshihiro Togashi had multiple gay characters in his works and Naruto had a gay couple (and Kabuto is debatably gay), being a shounen manga doesn't mean you can't have gay shit in them.

No. 86549

Source? Pls don't tell me you're talking about Hisoka.

>being a shounen manga doesn't mean you can't have gay shit in them

"Shounen manga is manga aimed at a young teen male target-demographic. It is primarily intended for boys between the ages of 12 and 18."
Well if their principal fan base is composed of boys of couse they won't have gay ppl there unless for comedy relief.

No. 86613

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Friend showed me the Owari no Seraph leaks, apparently Mika confesses his love to Yuu and then dies right afterwards.

Honestly not surprised, but hey at least it was canon for all of two seconds.

No. 86614

Are guys who read BL gay? I'v seen some but I can't tell by looking at them

No. 86616

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Bi probably, fudanshis are fairly uncommon but they're usually bi guys who just like Sieg x Astolfo and such.

No. 86649

not that anon but she probably means Itsuki from Yu Yu Hakusho, who is canonically in love with Sensui (who doesn't return the feelings).

No. 86676

wtf anon, spoiler this shit
mika is too good for him, jesus.

No. 86693

Don't know if anyone here cares, but a BL manga subscription service called Futekiya (https://read.futekiya.com/) is free for all of May! I came across them somehow a couple of months ago but debated paying for it (only $6.99 a month but I already pay for a lot of other subscription shit and it adds up lmao) so it might be worth just checking out to see if their library is to your liking and worth it for you!

I sound like a robot or someone who works for them but I really just wanted to put it out there to anyone who might be interested lol

>inb4 just pirate it

No. 86719

Hard to say. Usually I feel like gay and bisexual men like the stuff actual gay men produce which is way more horny, intense and sex-oriented than BL is. But then again I've also met straight men who like BL when the other guy is feminine enough.

What the fuck anon I had never even heard of this service. Thanks for letting us know

No. 86725

pretty nice library actually. fujoshi shills best shills

No. 86790

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IME straight guys who read BL fall into one of these categories:
- the series is a good series in general (ie, it has other redeeming qualities and they're not reading it specifically for the m/m action)
- it's hard to find non-BL series that explore relationships in the way that BL series do (ie, they're not sexually attracted to the m/m aspect but enjoy the character development, same reason as lesbian fujos)

No. 86791

those lips look ridiculous

No. 86792

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thats yaoi for you

No. 86834

I'll always be pissed at Atlus for not making Yosuke explicitly gay for Yu. Knowing that he was going to be an option at first makes it even worse, but at least that makes the plot twist about Kanji actually being a straight guy and all his scenes where Yosuke spergs about Kanji being gay and a weirdo and Teddy being a turbo twink make way more sense.

No. 86837

They still haven't gotten over P2 backlash despite that game coming out in the 90s.

Atlus, at least in terms of persona is so shitty sometimes.

No. 86842

It's so stupid because the Japanese fandom doesn't care. I've never heard of the Japanese fanboys going insane with rage over a gay character in any franchise, they don't give a fuck about the male characters and only want their waifus to stay satisfied. It's always the western dudebros who start reeing about muh SJW shills forcing degeneracy or the other extreme crying about fetishization/bad representation. And now because Japanese game studios are on such a strange kick to try and appeal to western audiences they can't put any of that shit in their games in fears of causing either of the extremes to cause backlash.

Fuck I just want to have a gay option in a Persona game. At least FE: Three houses had three but even for that one two of the options were ugly middle aged men and only one was age-appropriate and attractive, while the female options were all young, beautiful women. What a joke.

No. 86877

>Japanese game studios are on such a strange kick to try and appeal to western audiences
I don't think it's so strange, I think mobile games are way more popular in Japan so developers have to compete against them and they're starting to see Western fans as a reliable market because mobile games don't have the same impact over here.

Bbut seriously, Japanese fans may be total spergs but they're better at minding their business than Western fans who pirate games or don't even play them and won't stop complaining about potential gay shit in games. For P4 I'm sure the reason why Yosuke wasn't a gay option after all is because they developed and released P4 super fast, but then they added even more hints in spinoffs/sequels and in P4G, where Yosuke and the MC can straight up act like a cute young married couple but they still can't date. Oh but instead you're forced to french kiss the ugly Nana bootleg that nobody liked!

Was there a backlash then? If so I don't think the P1/P2 developers ever gave a fuck because the drama CD straight up had fujo fanservice and Satomi Tadashi confirmed over and over again that Tatsuya and Jun were made for each other in interviews. I'm sure the reason why he insisted on Maya/Tatsuya in P2 Eternal Punishment is because he's obsessed with love triangles though, dude just HAD to put the ridiculous Serph/Sera/Heat love triangle in DDS when it was never a thing in the original story. But then again, the team slightly changed starting from P3 and the P1/P2 went back to working on mainline and other spinoffs.

No. 87049

aw yeah, Persona meta time!
Anon from >>84899 here, there's been no official confirmation that Yosuke's dummied out lines (see video) were indeed part of a romance route. It's valid speculation because of what made it into the final game (all of Yosuke's gay sperging, plus his social links have the structure and pacing of a romance route…it's pretty egregious), but the whole "THEY TOOK OUT YOSUKE'S GAY OPTION" is repeated as though it were indisputable fact. I'm like this close to tweeting Yuri Lowenthal to see if he remembers what these lines were for.

Also, I've never found Showtaro Morikubo's version of these lines aside from the single "ore, omae ga suki da" that was in some random YT video about P4, I'd be interested to hear them and whether they're more explicitly romantic than the English dub.

No. 87051

Man, there was so much Yu/Yosuke fanservice in the P4 spinoffs. To the point where Yosuke somehow ends up looking gayer than Kanji, whose story is literally about being insecure in his masculinity and terrified that he's gay.

And everyone seems to forget about Teddie canonically macking on all the dudes, though I guess the joke is that he's an otherworldly creature who wants to fuck everybody due to being ignorant about human social conventions.

No. 87107

>Showtaro Morikubo's version of these lines aside from the single "ore, omae ga suki da"
It was a long time ago but I found all the lines by Morikubo too, where he mentions somethings about feeling warm inside, just like in the English version. No idea where I could find them again though, sorry. At this point it's not officially confirmed but it's like 99.99999999999% probable that Yosuke was meant to be a love interest. His social link is kinda similar to Naoto's in that if you don't choose very specific options you can't unlock a "scene" that will indicate you can date the character so you're automatically friendzoned by the character at rank 10. Like, if you want to hug Yosuke and let him cry in your arms you have to choose a specific option in his previous rank, and with Naoto she always friendzoned me because I never choose the flirty options.

>Yosuke somehow ends up looking gayer than Kanji, whose story is literally about being insecure in his masculinity and terrified that he's gay
I'm sure that was the whole point of all these scenes, they even added some in Golden, but it's like they set up the joke and forgot to add the punchline. Weird as fuck, especially when you get optional dialogues like in the date café scene where you have Kanji saying that Yosuke gave him the whole "IT'S OK TO BE GAY YOU'RE STILL MY BRO EVEN IF YOU SUCK DICKS" speech off-screen and Yosuke starts to spreg out again even if that scenes is after we find out Naoto is a girl.

I'll never get over Dojima cockblocking Yu and Teddie.

No. 87210

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>set up the joke and forgot to add the punchline
Plus, Yosuke's character arc is unsatisfying/doesn't make sense if he didn't actually end up having a crush on Yu.

I'm going to poke around on the Japanese internet to see if I can find Morikubo's lines, or at least some commentary on Yosuke's route that tells us something that the English-speaking Persona fandom doesn't already know. Good point about the "you idiot, hugging is for girls" scene - not only do you have to "unlock" it, but hugging is often what starts the dating route for the romanceable female characters…one of those things that's a lot more obvious in Japanese/lost in translation because hugging is so platonic here, lol.

The difference in Lowenthal vs. Morikubo's delivery, too…man…the "I like you, don't go" is so heartbreaking, you can tell that Yosuke is softly opening his heart to Yu. Whereas the Japanese line really has that hesitant guarded vibe.

That "what the HELL are you two doing?" plus the freakin bathhouse music playing cracks me up every single time. This fucking game I swear

No. 87259

It expired bc I wasn’t checking. But is it the Queero server maybe…?

No. 87261

The new permalink is here >>86169, that one expired

No. 87281

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AHA found it: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz5Eky9tUFQLVEJacndnODYteEU/edit

The Japanese and English lines are indeed the same. At this point, I'm leaning toward what >>86877 said about them leaving the full Yosuke route out in P4 vanilla due to running out of time.

No. 87289

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Haven't played P4 (mainly because I was kinda meh on P3 and P5) but Teddie is super cute.

No. 87360

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These kinds of characters are usually a miss, but Teddie is such a lovable sex pest. His line from SotL about latching onto marriage because he'll never have to smile or cry on his own ever again gets me teary-eyed.

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Have any of you guys read the series Spend Wisely its what helped me jumpstart my love for yaoi again. It was really sweet and its about a guy who is in debt because of his father having sex with a yakuza boss in order to pay back the debt. Its really cute!

No. 90171

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I haven’t, but I read this one by the same mangaka recently and liked it.

No. 90172

omg i was just about to recommend this next the drama cd is so cute because the police officer (forgot his name) has an incredibly deep voice ugh! But if you liked this you'll enjoy spend wisely too~

No. 90173

I dropped it after 3 chapters. I guess main couple really liked each other so it's cute, but it's not my style. It wasn't rapey at least, I'll give them that

No. 90177

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>looked up the drama CD months ago because I liked the manga
>sexy police officer is voiced by Makoto Furukuwa
>can't unhear it everytime I play FE3H and Sylvain talks
I don't know how to feel about this.

No. 90182

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Has anyone else played Koshotengai no Hashihime? I 100% recommend it.

No. 90186

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Same anon, but while I'm at it, here's some stuff I've read lately that I really liked:

>Yatamoto by Harada and any supplemental, related works. You can find it on myreadingmanga. (I'm late getting into Harada because I stopped reading BL for a few years, whoops.)

>Painter of the Night by Byeonduck. On Lehzin behind a paywall, but worth it imo.
>Private Lessons by anco & mongya. Also on Lehzin. A bit same-facey, unfortunately.

No. 91299

Best VN I've played in a while.

No. 91331

I didnt see it posted but we got the first clip of the umibe no etranger anime
It looks different, kind of moe??? I'm not a huge fan of the art style compared to the manga but still excited

No. 91401

I didn't even know there was an anime coming, I loved that manga. Thanks for posting it

No. 91459

NTA but I fucking love Harada, especially Yatamomo. If anyone in the thread can recommend something similar please tell me.

No. 91482

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You might want to check out Mentaiko or Asada Nemui, I feel like they both do “funny but kind of fucked up” manga really well. This page is from Loved Circus.

No. 91590

I'm the anon who posted the recs, and I just read Ten Count by Rihito Takarai. You might like it.

No. 91894

There’s a series? Excellent, I liked the first one.

No. 91895

There’s also YaoiCat, which is still starting up but looks promising


No. 92683

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Anyone read the manhwa, Sign? It's mostly fluffiness and sex for those who like that.

For those who haven't heard of it, it's about a deaf guy and a hearing guy - once in a blue moon the deaf guy speaks out loud, but his voice really turns on the hearing guy. (It sounds dumb but I swear it's cute.)

No. 92692

Where can I read this, anon?

No. 92693

can someone help me? i'm trying to search for a yaoi manga that i've read years ago. Spent years looking for it but I always mistaken its title with heart strings since heart strings was next to the manga in listings in mangafox years ago.

it's about a guy (let's call him A) who took up a housekeeping job since his theater gig doesn't help him much (he's a stage actor), financially. He ends up hired by a guy (B) that isn't necessarily rude but critics A's way of cleaning his house, cooking him food and etc. So, A somehow contacted B's family's housekeeper, since B left his family home and now leaves at an apartment or condo by himself, and taught him how to make curry the same way B have always liked and the story goes fluffy from there.

there was an extra of B watching A's play. A's wearing a dress. B hands him a large bouquet and B was pretty confused with the plot of the stage play since it involves aliens but A doesn't mind and was flattered that B was there.

After the extra. The story moves on to B's inferiority complex with his older brother (C) who I pressume doesn't like it when B is happy. C also married the woman who B liked. So, when C has inkling feeling about B being in a some sort of relationship with A, C tries to make a move on A, at B's place when B was unavailable at the time. A was pissed and told C to leave the house and that's all I could remember.

That was the last chapter of the manga I have read. Idk if it has been updated afterward or have become complete. I just want to read it again.

No. 92695


Hope you have adblock installed, this website kinda sucks, but the original is behind a paywall so you gotta make do: https://www.mangastream.cc/manga/sign-manhwa/sign-chapter-1/

No. 93176

I would try asking on /y/. This is why I started keeping a document with names of BL manga and a short summary, lol.

No. 94331

i did a google search and i think it might daikirai na aitsu

No. 94341

>>93176 thank you for the suggestion. i'll go there whenever i have a yaoi manga that i forgot its name.
>>94331 thank you anon! this is the one. feeling nostalgic atm. you really helped me.

No. 94354

this was so cute, thank you for the recommendation

No. 96619

Or they're not 100% straight

No. 96931

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i read painter of the night this past weekend and omg i wanted to hate it so bad because of how rapey and fucked it is. But its drawn so well and the story is so interesting i couldnt help but fall in love with na-kyum and especially seungho. I hate that i like seungho but can you blame me when he looks like that?

No. 96959

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seungho reminds me kinda of sangwoo aka they are nearly the same psychopathic rapist kind and in the fandom he probably also has a lot of people thirsting over him and liking him vs. the ones who hate him and want him to die (exactly like in killing stalking lol)

No. 97197

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I saw people raving about The Untamed for months and always thought no, I'm not gonna watch it and now I decided to give it a try and it's the best thing I've ever seen. It's so addictive, I finished it within just a couple of days, nearly every single episode made me cry lol
Not only are the actors handsome and the costumes/scenery beautiful, the story line is very good too, all characters are well thought out, you even feel for the villains. I always hate when yaoi/bl portrays female characters as annoying and inferior, but that's absolutely not the case here, they're all strong and likeable.
They perfectly managed to work around the China's censorship, also thanks to the great acting, it doesn't feel like there's something missing at all, if anything their love seems even deeper that way as if they were outright kissing. I also always hate when the uke is some tiny, weak damsel in distress while the seme is muscular and overconfident but here the guy who has the "girlier" personality is also loud, outgoing and probably the strongest and bravest character, while the other is elegant and silently supportive of him. Highly recommend.
I wish there were more good chinese bl dramas/mangas because I like the visuals so much, I know that Hua Hua You Long is drawn in a similar style but the story is just gross.

No. 97198

lmao my mom is a giant homophobe so I was super surprised when I found her watching it… I would even go up to her randomly and say "is it that gay shit" because I wonder if she even picked up on the gay undertones and she'd just be like "yeah." She's always reading Chinese novels on her phone and now I'm wondering if she's ever read MDZS

I've been meaning to watch it but I don't wanna get bullied by my mom for using English subtitles lol

No. 97213

I keep reading because the art is stunning but Nakyum annoys the fuck out of me. He looks and acts a shoujo manga protagonist and is a spineless whiny cunt

No. 97217

I've had it on my pending watchlist for a while, maybe out of fear I wont like it at all or not get it. I'll give the pilot a go today.

btw what is it with moms and chinese novels? My mom has been on a reading spree for years, she usually read a lot of renown books and classics but lately all I see her reading is chinese/vietnamese novels. She is on whatsapp groups where they all chat and translate them, even. Its adorable and weird at the same time.

No. 97223

>I always hate when yaoi/bl portrays female characters as annoying and inferior, but that's absolutely not the case here, they're all strong and likeable.
Unrelated to Untamed but honestly does this ever happen? I've been a rotten ass fujo for a decade and I've never seen it happen but people keep bringing it up. In all of BL that I read female characters are either nonexistent (understandable) or just as well written as the men. They're often supportive of the main couple even if they sometimes fall in the fag hag category and more or less just, I don't know, normal women. Maybe I've just avoided the garbage.

No. 97225

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How the hell can she stomach watching that if she's a homophobe…? The gay vibes and hints are way too strong for anybody to play this off as them just being "bros". I haven't read the novel yet (and supposedly there's an anime adaptation too) but I heard it's very graphic lol

I feel like this happens quite often? The annoying bitch who hits on and pesters one of males? Or the ex who doesn't let go or even tries to sabotage his new gay relationship (e.g. in Seven Days)? Maybe I also get this impression so strongly because I like watching bl dramas on youtube and in the comments most female characters get ripped to shreds even if they aren't doing anything bad. There definitely are some fujos with severe internalized misogyny.

No. 97226

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No. 97229

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The anime is trash, don't bother. The novel have many more moments and intense flirting and secondary couples.

We need to chinese-historical-BL-pill everyone asap lmao (jk twitter would ruin them in 2 seconds)

No. 97241

>posting best couple

Honestly, I think the drama did such a good job portraying the novels. I was able to have them translated and enjoyed them so much. I love that Wei Ying and LWJ are a canon pairing and the drama did a great job portraying that. It was fun to watch with Chinese fans too.

My only real complaint was the Yi City arc was so short. It was like 2 episodes?? I wanted more. So much more! Especially the wholesome domestic life with XXC and Xue Yang before it all went to shit.

No. 97249

I saw pics of the anime and they seem to be drawn like your stereotypical yaoi couple which turned me off immediately, so I didn't plan on watching it anyway, but thanks for the warning lol
I hate that my taste of physically equal couples seems to be an unpopular opinion with most fujos, seeing as some fans were even disappointed that WWX was taller…

But what do you mean, how would twitter ruin them?

No. 97275

the anime is ugly in animation, more like b-class type of anime that you'd see in old yaoi anime (and also typical idol or otome based anime), they basically info dump everything in the first few minutes of the first epi 1 with the novel's lore. so don't bother.

No. 97382

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If there's any Russian anons here, Taisho Mebiusline got Russian translated.
Really good VN.

No. 97659

Reminder. Fujoshi are just misogynistic self-hating girls who wish they were male pseudo-trannies so that they can be degenerate faggots with no 'gross females' around. Because apparently, girly men are gods while actual proper girls are disgusting. Go figure the fujoshi mind. For a bunch that claims to be be obsessed with males, they sure have lesbian tendencies with their attraction to femininity. But like the hypocrites they are, they desperately deny it under the pretext that the characters are just "handsome" men, even though the authors are clearly appropriating feminine traits to make their designs like it's the most normal thing to do. Absolutely repulsive stuff.
Phew feels nice and healthy loving my own gender instead(bait)

No. 97660

Very very interesting and very very cool

No. 97662

lmao at you sperging in multiple threads at the horror of women daring to find feminine men attractive

Stay mad

No. 97666

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Haha BL printer go bbbrr

No. 97669

No. 97676

Nta anon but you have to admit that a lot of BL characters are just girls and function as girls

No. 97677

Ok? literally just don't consume trash EZ

No. 97679

Even so, what's the problem with that? It's made by girls for girls, and obviously their best point of reference for anything to do with love or sex is themselves. There's nothing offensive or bad about girls being attracted to both female and male traits, even if they end up combining the two into particularly girly gay male characters.

BL doesn't exist as representation for either gay men or women, it's literally just self indulgent romance/porn material for women to enjoy. I can't imagine begrudging anyone that - we spend our whole lives being told we need to be pretty, young, slim and hairless to be worthy of getting fucked but god forbid girls project that expectation onto men in harmless niche manga.

No. 97681

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I´m sorry but the posts were to great to not make it.

Btw I didn´t notice that the girl on the thread picture has a flower crown, nice