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Read lolcow.farm rules, follow them; don't cowtip, don't post old milk; if you aren't sure if something has already been discussed read the current thread & previous thread at least. If you're a pull refugee: learn to integrate.
We don't care about your views on sex work neither how much money you or your friend makes on OF; so don't waste thread's 1200 replies with thirst, moralfagging and autistic derailing, that's why the last thread got autosaged.
+Previous threads all neatly arranged by most recent:
Onlyfans Plasticine Queen edition >>>/w/124470
Sugar Daddy's cat is judging your life choices edition >>>/w/110858
I have never been this happy!!! Edition >>>/w/105252
Jiraikei Onna & Corn Dildo Edition >>>/w/101360
Baby Beenos Edition >>>/w/98843
BDSM Queen Edition >>>/w/95405
Sex Worker Edition >>>/w/87866
Sugaring Edition >>>/w/76241
Desperate For Money Edition >>>/w/62881
Mental Illness Is Super Kawaii uwu >>>/w/46865
2 years ago >>>/w/30581
3 years ago >>>/snow/286133
Yellowface Edition >>>/snow/254982
The Kawaii Princessu >>>/snow/205005
+Venus Angelic Summary:
>Venus Isabelle Palermo aka Venus Angelic is a washed up as-been famous Swiss Youtuber who gained popularity for her doll looks and weeby content back in the days. Her momager Margo (a notorious cow in her own right >>>/pt/666399 ) created the Venus Angelic brand, dragged her around the globe evading taxes and stirring up drama among the living doll and makeup vlogger community.
>At 19 Venus away from her mother to marry a japanese guy named Manaki, one of her simps who followed her from a very young age. Marriage reason? visa of course. She did end up into a divorce and made a video badmouthing him, calling him a neet and other stuff publicly on youtube. She also exposed his sexuality by claiming he's asexual, only likes 2d women and never even sexed her (proof may say quite the opposite). That concludes on how nobody thinks she really loved him.
>For a short time, she joined a v-tuber project under the name of MALICE, got a minor role in AbsoMetal theatrical play and was the face of some small media company -which she tried to claim as her own. Needless to say, her performace in all these projects was mediocre at best. During this time, she faked alcoholism, lesbianism, mental problems and suicide baited her followers for asspats.
>After divorcing (or splitting up, who knows) she began posting on IG about "business meetings", hotel rooms, riding cabs, showing off LV and Coach items along odd mentions of blowjobs and masturbation in her IG stories. Later, anons discovered her Pater profile under the identity of "Lilian". An unedited selfie she didn't posted anywhere before confirmed it was indeed hers and not someone else using her pics as a catfish.
>Enters "Ken" her new sugardaddy/boyfriend. "Ken", according to Venuses claims, did illicit things to a child. She made an entire insta story about it instead of reporting to the police saying "nobody would help her with the case". Sketchy? Incredibly. Child in question was posted on her Instagram account and was removed after the drama. There is no follow up on Ken.
>After this episode she crawled back to Manaki's place again and lived in her old closet room during the COVID-19 pandemic.
>At that time, Venus announced her Onlyfans and currently is doing full time OF sex work. She claims that this work path was her "childhood dream" and that she's never been SOOO HAPPY!!! like she is at the moment. Her half-assed R18 content features cheap rental costumes, cheap dildos, cheap love hotel rooms, internet cafes strip-teases, sex toy reviews and so on.
>Enter Manager-san. Either Manaki kicked her out or she's fucking a new guy (aka Manager-san) for a place to stay, it's unknown. Manager-san seems to be the one behind the camera, planning the tip menus and streaming schedules since she's incapable of do something steady on her own.
>Venus went back to her habitual suicide baiting tactic, hoping it would make her worried simps throw pity money at her. The reaction wasn't well received and she had to apologize for it, trying to pass it as a prank. The latest live stream went awfully bad, confusing noises made the viewers worry about what was going on between Venus and Manager-san off camera.
+Recent milk>Scary shoops are becoming more and more alien-esque>Manic episodes of posting videos and off-putting live streams >More possible bruises from Manager-san>Trying to back-pedal from edgy sex maniac to kawaii vlogger>Runs some suspicious e-girl ""company"" called Momonga >Attempting and failing at cosplay by buying cheap taobao costumes that take zero effort >Back to drinking and sucking down energy drinks to contribute to her downfall in health
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Think she’s using jirai-kei to cover the fact her eyes almost look like this normally?
From her stream 8 hours ago.
She looks so, well sad. Jeez… Her whole situation is just one big mess after the other. Girl needs to get away from all those toxic
people and start a fresh life somewhere else. That might help her but idk. Is she still drinking heavily?
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yup. and shaking alot.
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funny how she still pretends that she owns the house or something. She wouldn't get shit with her low income and questionable visa status (and if she's not living with him, why would anyone rent to a foreigner like her?)>>144093
The legs are so badly shooped and it looks like she didn't bother to wear the matching elementary school-costume trousers so she can make it look more slutty kek.
Btw does anyone know if her OF is dead or something?
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In this video fron yesterday she look like a literal hobo, drunk, dirty and disheveled. Who TF uploads a video looking like this? Seems like she’s on another one of those multi-day benders she goes on where she wears the same dirty pj’s for days at a time. Lucky Manaki.
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At 38:14 she stands up and she’s swaying and struggling to keep her balance.
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Then she staggers back into frame and (finally) fixes the lighting. Which is not much of an improvement because you can see just what a sloppy mess she really is. A fucking drunken mess, leeching off that poor fool Manaki while simultaneously trashing and lying about him every chance she gets.
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Wow, skipped through the livestream, she really seems highly fucked up throughout it. It's crazy to see her look like this, and act like this, and think about how cultivated her image was in her most popular Youtube videos post-Margo. Here's a screenshot from a video where she speaks in multiple languages from 2016, just a random screenshot. She looks so much more polished and normal, it's hard to believe the girl speaking confidently about her language abilities would 5 years later in a cramped, cluttered room, wearing dirty clothes, slurring and falling over, and looking rumpled and completely "given up". She's definitely done some fucked up things in the past, the whole deal with the child abuse uh…thing on her Instagram, but I feel bad for her. She's one of the cows I genuinely think I can excuse a lot of bad behavior from because her childhood was so bad. Last thread some anon was trying to say how Venus was just as much part of her sexualization as Margo was, which is just ridiculous. Children can't consent to being sexualized, no matter how much Venus wanted to put her boobs on Youtube it was up to her mother to stop that, and instead Margo monetized it. And now Venus looks unkempt and unwashed, eating octopus and instant noodles for weirdos.
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Her insta story…
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I personally don’t think it’s funny but ok
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She's looking haggard as fuck in her new videos. Can't understand much what she's saying, slurring a lot.
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Stumbled upon an older video of hers from 2016 and she sure looked a lot better back then. This comment though.. If only he could see her now.
Has anyone suggested she's using meth (or any other type of speed) yet? Isn't it like THE drug in Japan for quick weight loss and her being involved in some shady shit only increases how easy it would be for her to find a dealer.
Alcohol as a downer, maybe? Would also explain shakes, nervousness and getting bursts of creativity from time to time.
What reputation? He was a NEET otaku who fantasized of fucking underage Venus until she was able to be married to him and he is clearly not interested in her sexually, but as a commodity. Didn't want to do couple things at all.
I don't understand why you guys say he had some reputation. He was a nobody and we have no proof of who was leeching oof
of who, but we do know he wasn't rich or anything and was a pedophile obsessed with Venus's realdoll esthetic. He wasn't a good guy to begin with.
If she really took drugs, she'd most likely flaunt it on her social media accounts (like the hookah pics). Also she'd be so stupid and get caught by the police real quick and kicked out of Japan for good
But you may never know with Venus, she's nuts
She's defiantly a bit tweaked out. I heard from my friend who met with her in japan that she's been living at random hotels in Tokyo with her shithead boyfriend (the guy who took her only fans pics). He was also milking her for her only fans coin as a manager. Im not sure if shes still doing that but yeah…
to me sounds like she or her husband have debt or something. probably that is why she is doing only fans.
just like >>144578
said, it wasn't because manaki was so virtuous, and his love for venus was so pure. It was because other people were looking at them when they went out. Trust that he was probably more than happy for her to keep those Lolita outfits and wear them in private…for him. He was a pervert, plain and simple. She said some vile things about him but I'm not going to WK a grown man who hatched a scheme to meet an underage girl who's camshows he liked, then married her. As far as I'm concerned Venus went from the frying pan and into the fire. I get the consensus last thread was she was now just milking her bad childhood, but I still disagree. Maybe I'm a sucker but I do feel bad for her. She had some innate talent with regards to language and now she's just drinking jelly and getting the shakes on Youtube live. She made her own bed to an extent but to draw an analogy to it's breaking point her mom bought the bed for her.
Doesn't stop every single rave I've been from having synthetic noids or ice readily available. You think with with how popular drugged up mentally ill culture is they give a shit about drug laws? >>144610>>144644
Her manager still controls her, posting about hard drugs would land them both in big shit. I know Venus is retarded, but flaunting something that WILL put her in jail or boot her out of Japan is too much even for a nut like her. Only being able to eat jelly or liquid foods and constantly jumping residences puts me into the "she's an addict" camp as well.
We just have to wait and see, I guess, once manager-san boots her, too, she might go full nuclear on social media from withdrawals, kek.
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Well, i doubt its because of that. Most japanese people cant tell a white persons age. With venus’s current looks she could pass for anything from 20s to mid 30s. She just wears brands like liz lisa which is a brand for younger people.
her husband looks like a child. So i dont think people would bat up of an eye with them.
I think the main thing is that venus’s boyfriend lives in a very rural area with his mom so she wouldnt be able to go to tokyo much living with him.
venus doesnt have a real manager. Its some twot having sex with her in love hotels, taking pics and getting 50% of her onlyfans. They take their photos in kinshicho which is city that has gang groups, sketchy bars, and casinos everywhere. Theres a high crime rate there.
If she had a real manager at a media company, they wouldnt be doing this. Many talent companies in tokyo have ties to groups like yakuza and wouldnt allow their talent to make shaddy porn like venus. Her photos are taken with out permission from the hotels for shooting so, no company would want to deal with that law suit.
I dont think it would be hard for her to do gravure for a cheap ass magazine like flash, if she was actually managed by a real agency.
This photo is a place i seen on her story. Its sara hotel in kinshicho.
Also she calls herself menhera (idk if thats how you spell it) which matches her clothes. Menhera girls usually hang around bars or nightclubs in tokyo. They are usually shady places. I guess menhera is a really bad thing to associate yourself with, i wouldnt be surprised if shes taking drugs or cutting if she calls herself menhera. Its what menhera is known for.
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Tell me venus is not complete nuts.
I fucking called it.
I guess she is on a heavy backpedal binge now that she and her NEET manager got too close to the shady side of japan, and that's why she resorts to shitty mukbang videos looking haggard af
honestly, if I were to guess what is going on, I would think that her husband owes people money. which is why venus is going sex work to make the big only fans dollars. It's the only thing that would make sense, considering she still goes back to her husband's house with his mom.
That stuff happens in japan. Usually, girls go into gravure for with talent companies because they have debts to pay and venus is still in japan with a marriage visa, and they aren't considering a divorce. If venus was divorced, the only way she could get a visa is from youtube (I doubt youtube would give her a visa because she is a sex worker) or a talent company.
Any other visa requires an undergraduate degree.
I've looked into model-sponsored visas before. You must be making at least 6grand a month through a company; talent companies usually take 50% cut from jobs they provide, a gravure job pays around 150-300 dollars a day and tv jobs even for famous actors only pull a few hundred dollars per job.
If venus were to get an apartment, she would need a signature from her husband, and they both need to prove they have a workplace.
if venus and her husband were to split up, venus would either have to get into a language school or she would be on the next flight home.>>144762
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>>144788>> considering she still goes back to her husband's house with his mom.
Where are you getting this shit from? She’s back at Manaki’s apartment in Yokohama, the same one he’s had since at least 2016. The apartment Manaki pays for with his wages from his legit job. The same apartment she ran to when she ‘escaped’ the evil momager. The same one she goes running back to every time she finds herself kicked out of wherever she’s temporarily shacked up at the moment and needs a place to sleep. The backgrounds in her streams now are the same as her videos from 2016-2017.
And Manaki’s parents live hours away from Tokyo/Yokohama, in northern Japan btw.
There is no “house in the countryside” anywhere but Venus’s wishful thinking. There’s Manaki’s apartment, cheap love hotel rooms and various sleazy guys’ rented rooms that she shacks up in, that’s it. Like this one (pic attached.)
venus is .5% of only fans, she's making bank.
that's in the 10s of thousands of dollars a month (I guess from estimates from reddit, you can correct me if I'm wrong). she can afford an apartment. with all that money though she should be getting some cosmetic surgery done… her boobies are very sad.
It’s the bag 量産型 girls use so it’s become associated with jirai girls too >>144549
It hasn’t stopped people before, there’s always people on the news getting busted for all kinds of drugs
>>144714>> venus’s boyfriend lives in a very rural area with his mom
Again, where are you getting this from? Your fanfic?
What imaginary “boyfried” is this? Please share.
>>144795>> venus is .5% of only fans,
According to who, Venus? If VENUS said it it MUST be true, is that it? Like that “house in the countryside” that totally exists, and the “Company” she is the owner and CEO of, where she “hires employees” too!
Get a grip, anon. She’s a habitual liar with delusions of grandeur, just like her mommy.
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Go look at her page…. it says .5%
True, its not hard to find drugs in japan.
People do pills in night clubs just like in north america. I know people who smoke weed in japan daily but its really expensive compared to north america.
There are a lot of japanese rappers who smoke in music videos. Its not like some taboo shit.
I'm not on OF anon so I can't say for sure but there must be some bullshit going on with it, because it seems like every girl on there is "in the top 1%", and I don't see any of them really living large? It's just like how strippers always tell you how much they make a night, how come they all live in shitty apartments? It's because they're trying to convince you and themselves they made the right choice in selling their body, and that yes they ARE worth something!
Venus is definitely not making lots of money. I think she was making more money, or at least was able to spend more freely, when she lived with Manaki and was doing normal YT content. She had new clothes from known brands, random shit she bought just for videos, whatever, If anything she seems thrifty now. Cheap booze and energy jelly in a nasty, bare apartment or sleazy hotel.
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samefag but here is a ghostly screengrab of her in that video, check the completely undecorated and boring cookie she took exactly one bite out of
Venus probably got a glimpse of reality into the unfiltered porn industry that June works in and bailed immediately. She'd rather lure in the perverts through OnlyFans with her heavily edited photo sets and lies. Any collaboration "projects" that she announces goes to shit within months and her friendships magically disappear in the process.
Classic narc pick up and disposal right there.
Manaki was simpin hard and being her top doormat, so I wouldn't be surprised he funded alot of her lifestyle then. Her YouTube "career" was just a side hustle. She got very comfortable being the NEET kawaii house waifu surrounded by pink & getting to do whatever she wanted with her manipulative tactics.
Now she doesn't have that luxury anymore and it looks like she's been struggling ever since. Even if she's had sugar daddies along the way according to other threads, she's still spiralling downhill. A grown ass woman hopping from one apartment or hotel to the next. It's only a matter of time before she really does end up on the streets.
Where the fuck did you find METH in Japan?? There’s weed all over the place but I’ve never heard of meth.
Sage for off topic
Are you retarted? She's had that 0.5% info written in her of bio since forever, when her doing sexwork was still something new and the simps wanted to see her naked. There's no way she's making a lot with OF right now, I mean she isn't even posting much nowadays.
If you're a newfag, read the previous threads and stop clogging up the thread with your dumb "Venus isn't poor uwu" crap.
the percentage isn't written by her, it is automated by OF. Can't really deny that.
Venus isn't poor, she should know better than to act like a child. Venus promotes mental health to her audience as being kawaii, that shit is fucked up. she needs to be set back down to reality hard. >>144907>>144511
where have you read about meth in japan? probably it's just her stomach surgery combined with her alcoholism + (possible) pill issue making her look so twacked out.
I was thinking the same thing… it seems like every single OF whore is in the top 1% or some shit. Makes me believe that it's not actually true, and since OF is the only one who can see their actual numbers, they just hand out the 1% trophies to anyone to make it seem like an attractive endeavor.
"Hey, if this drunken washed up youtuber can be in the top 1%, surely I can, too!!"
I would actually rather endure watching her old weeb cringe content than this half assed trash she expects her fans to enjoy.
Cooking With Venus shall never be the same again.
>>144284>speaking confidently about her language abilities
Get out of your town one day anon. She is like any other gypsy scammer in europe - able to put out just enough patter in various languages to trick the simplest rubes.
She was never anything more than she is now. She never said/did/showed a single spark of charisma or talent or comedy in a single video. Most of them are in fact, incoherent. You just gave her a massive benefit of the doubt because you were 12 when you were a fan. Time to let go of your child's eye view
>>144552>> What reputation? He was a NEET otaku
…blah blah fucking blah, yeah right Manaki was a fan back in her Living Doll fame therefore he must be a PerVerTed PEdoPhiLe forever and ever, right? Get fucking real. He’s a Japanese citizen with a stable job and living situation who now finds himself stuck with an alcoholic basketcase who is using him for a visa and meal ticket and using emotional blackmail to keep him from dumping her ass (“b-but I’ll be deported and homeless and die if you don’t take me in and it’ll be YOUR FAULT!”) He gets to come home from work every day to find her drunk, greasy and dirty dressed in the same grubby pj’s for days on end. Lucky guy, huh?
On top of that she never misses a chance to demean, ridicule, embarrass and lie about him. And yes, he does (or did) have a reputation as Wenus’s white knight, savior and protector from the evil momager (which he actually was.) She rewarded him for that by claiming he “quit his job to live off MY earnings” and has doubled down on that lie multiple times since the original. In short, she is a nasty lying little snake, actually worse than her psycho mother because she’s so sneaky and cowardly wirh her little smear campaign. Manaki has no social media presence and doesn’t even speak English which makes him an easy target for her. She’d never dare try that shit with any of her ex-pals, they’d roast her alive. So she targets Manaki because she’s a pathetic little coward, while at the same time leeching off him financially, emotionally and every other way possible.
To be honest their options are exactly how I see things with Venus too. Venus is a master manipulator.
Yes, Venus’s mother is crazy as hell and venus was smart enough to see that too. She published this huge story about how she made this great getaway from her mother when in all actuality it was a part of just venus trying to live her dream Japanese life she’s always wanted in Japan with her easy meal ticket Manaki and doing this completely ruined Margrets image even more than she had done herself but the key point is Venus did it before Margret could defend herself or show evidence just like with Manaki.
Margret wanted to still have Venus as her daughter and this financial life they built together. Most Tiger moms are crazy like that. I know from experience but also I see how Venus manipulate that situation to benefit herself and make her look like “poor Venus “ just like she did with Manaki.
Venus’s YouTube content was actually well put together and she was on a schedule back when she was with her mom but as soon as she left her mom you can see that Venus just wanted to get away from the structure that margret had her under “aka” eatting welll, cleaning herself, schooling, travel, schedule YouTube videos and so on. Now Venus is a hoe/ pedo, who lost all her friends from trying to make them do illegal or weird stuff with her, she owes money, has a pimp who slaps her with no fear for all to hear on live video and she jumps from home to home, looks like she’s on drugs. How is this a better life ? How do people not see that Venus wants to get away from the people telling her that living this crazy life is dangerous. She has nothing now and looks absolutely horrid! I feel bad for her but this is also this life she wanted to lie for to get.
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at least the weeb shit was hilarious to witness online, alternating with the occasional creepy vibes (did not appreciate those)
now it's just geriatric venus descending into japanese coke thot hell
This girl is going to get found in a ditch I swear. Her life is just sad.
I remember envying her during her blow
up but now at 27, in a good job, got a mortgage on a house and my life going well. There’s nothing to envy anymore.
Venus lives in another world at this point(nobody cares)
>>144552>fantasized of fucking underage Venus >he is clearly not interested in her sexually
Do you not see the conflict of these two statements? Not only did Venus repeatedly poke fun at him for (allegedly)being asexual who only likes 2D girls, but she talked about how she never had real sex until she was with another guy. After all this time, don’t you think she could have come out with some very damning confessions about his sexual behaviors or even his body?
>Didn't want to do couple things at all.
There were plenty of early marriage date photos and activities that they shared. Performing their relationship on YouTube is a completely different thing and not necessary at all. Especially the PDA some people kept demanding to see.
>I don't understand why you guys say he had some reputation.
With his family and coworkers, anon. The shit that happened would be humiliating for any “nobody”. Most people empathizing with him from this perspective. Who knows how many people in his life knew about this.
>was a pedophile
Again, where is the proof of him being a pedo or being abnormally sexual at all? It can be definitely argued that their prior communication when she underage was probably inappropriate, but what other proof do we have?
Anyway, all her shaking may not be due to meth but her prescribed medications interacting with her abused body and fucked up intestines. She can no longer absorb nutrients properly. Just imagine what how her brain is affected by the combination of meds and malnutrition. Plus, tremors are a known side effect of drugs like Concerta.
kek exactly anon, I'm not following this anon's insistence that Manaki is some pitiable character in this story.
> It can be definitely argued that their prior communication when she underage was probably inappropriate, but what other proof do we have?
You just gave proof? He arranged to meet up with an under-age girl who's lascivious cam shows he enjoyed, then later married that girl. if your point is that Manaki isn't the worst human being ever and that perhaps living with him was better than living with Margo than yeah, I guess maybe. But you don't need to act like he's not a pedophile, or at the very least a big creep who was a fan of watching a child perform vaguely sexual acts on NicoNico.
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She deleted the right image and replaced it with a cropped version because she didn’t realized her stomach scar was showing
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So much shoop she ends up looking like one of those Japanese creepypasta. Tbh I feel bad for her, she must have mad body dysmorphia for not looking Asian and like a meitu filter. Venus, try to take a step back and work on your issues…
Then he wouldn’t have agreed to marry her as an ADULT and take care of her after. That’s how it doesn’t make sense. Besides all of YOU here watched her videos and kept up with her every post for years too. People here have spent way too much time analyzing her body and spreading pictures of her stained panties. How are you special? >>145259
I’m talking about your insistence that he is an actual pedophile and somehow you know his exact sexual proclivities without evidence. > lascivious cam shows> vaguely sexual acts on NicoNico.
Wait, THAT is your proof? Because she made you uncomfortable, it means he must have been jacking off the whole time? That is not proof. And nowhere have I claimed he was some Prince Charming. It’s that there is no proof of your serious accusations of him being sexually attracted to kids, but there is plenty showing it is “Baby Beenos” Venus herself that is into loli, ddlg, rape play and has interactions with men who have Twitter accounts full of “child models”.
No, I don't have concrete evidence of Manaki being a pedophile, or what I suspect is more likely a man with pedophilic tendencies because yeah he did stay with adult Venus too. Its hard for someone on the internet who doesn't actually live with a person to have complete, irrefutable evidence of their sexuality BUT I know that if a man in my life was spending any amount of time watching teenage Venus's content, then planning to meet up with her when she visited their country, I wouldn't trust that man around my teenage daughter.
Also I agree Venus is into that shit. I think as a child her sexuality was exploited by her mother, and now as an adult she is continuing the cycle in some way. It's no excuse but her sexuality is obviously distorted from her youth. Anyway what more evidence could anyone possibly provide? What interest would Manaki have had in Venus's pedo-baity cheesecake videos when she was underage if NOT sexual interest?
Her video thumbnails seem like just clickbait,because they looklike theyd be a professionally put together video but they are quite bad quality. i can't watch most of them and have still to catch up.
I'm not sure she is still in the same place from years ago when she was still with Manaki, she had a lot of toys around and this place now, from what we see of it, the little we see of it, looks altogether dingier, and more drab, or that's the impression it gives anyway.
Also did no one wonder about her karaoke video she did recently? I wonder why she chose to do a song made famous by Keiko Fuji, who had a tragic life, and chaotic when she was alive, and the song itself about a prostitute dreaming of a better life? I hope Venus is not identifying and getting influenced by that, if she read about how her life was, it 's all very sad, I wish she could identify with someone more positive if she wants to be influenced and inspired by anyone. But maybe I'm just worrying unnecessarily. Maybe she's not that deep.
At least it makes a change though to see her looking like herself in the videos instead of the horrible shooped photos on instagram.
I can't see any scar. Couldn't she just have deleted it because she wanted to upload it with the watermark and had forgotten to do it the first time? Or maybe she thought it showed a bit too much down below and that people might complain, there's a few prudes who comment on her videos most times she posts anything even a remote bit sexual.
It's not a very flattering picture of her face anyway, the red lipstick makes her look harsh and older, and she's trying to make her face look longer and thinner which doesn't suit her and also makes her look older.
At least she's trying different styles though so is taking an interest in things, which is a good sign.
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>>145417> I can't see any scar.
I think it's where the line is. Correct me if I'm wrong.
The video was nothing like this thumbnail. Thumbnail looks a clear picture, Venus is wearing a bra and has her own hair (or what looks like her own hair) and the cookies are decorated. In the video, the picture is dark and blurry, she's wearing a wig that gets in the way, and the cookies never get decorated, she never even mentions the decorations at all from what I recall. It grossed me out when she knocked the tray off onto the floor with her foot, - it looks like she exists in a really tiny limited space, and the cookie dough went down onto the floor, I thought once she picked it up, she might do the sensible thing and just scrape off the top layer, but no, she started wiping and dabbing at it with a tissue, so effectively rubbing in any bits of fluff and hair into the cookie dough. and then proceeded to cut out the shapes and cook them.
Why the hell doesn't she film her streams in the evening when she is probably more able to think straight, instead of when she just gets up, which obviously is not a good time for her?
At about 45 minutes in, someone asks her something about jobs and haircuts (can’t make it out because she talks like Google Translate) and then says “but I choose to keep my identity separate, because I’m kinda undercover wherever I go”. Weird.
Also talks about wanting tattoos and piercings, playing Twisted Wonderland. In the baking video, she talked about wanting to make new videos because she had “so many new hobbies to share”, but when someone in this video asked about them, all she could come up with was “bitching about Jirai kei on Instagram”. Can she even talk about anything else anymore??
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No she's wearing circle lenses and makeup to make her eyes look puffy to look larger because she's a weeb with normal/smaller sized eyes obsessed with having larger eyes and following the newest trends (ie jirai), not because she's covering anything up.>>144104
She also (once again in her easter live stream) claimed he's asexual and then SHAMED him for it. She's a vile fucking monster. Even if he was asexual, so what? This girl is a fake, toxic
bitch and I'm surprised at the anons who still pity her. Imagine shaming someone for their sexuality.
She also seems to be "close" to her photographer. He popped up on one of her streams saying these things (screenshot). The alleged friend who came here and said she tries to fuck her managers was probably telling the truth, given how unprofessional their communication is.
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In that same stream, she tried making a jab at Margo again. She claimed she was diagnosed with adhd as a child (I believe it was either a teacher who suggested or Margo took her to a psychologist) and then her evil meanie mutti didn't accept said diagnosis and ignored poor weenoos' mental health! It's all Margo's fault! Venus really is manipulative. Given that Margo always said Venus had Asperger's – meaning that Margo most likely got a second opinion, which lead to the Asperger's claim (Margo using it as some bad thing she has to expose is stupid though). In the screenshot, Venus lies about drinking and her ED and claims she doesn't have asperger's and that her mom said that. But in her live stream, she made it seem like Margo completely ignored her mental health (she doesn't have adhd, is normal and left at that) and didn't even mention the asperger's, which is very manipulative, given that Margo (or someone) clearly noticed something was wrong with Venus. You don't just randomly pull out Asperger's out of nowhere. Most of Margo's claims were grounded in some truth. Just another example of Venus spinning narratives and rewriting her past to further victimize herself.
Not surprised. Remember, she paraded Gaku Kitano's business as her own legitimate self-starter and shamelessly lied to her audience. She currently claims to have "a career" but when asked, wouldn't divulge. She then said her career was making her fans happy. Which is beyond ridiculous, given that she immediately dumped them when her OF was at its peak, shoved sexual content in their faces and posted a video where she claimed she respects them as consumers only.>>144450
Don't forget: claiming EVERYONE in her life was a vile abuser. Manaki is WORSE than Margo, which begs the question, just how bad was her time with Margo, given that her examples of Manaki's abuse were very weak (being against surgery, worrying about having kids, being uncomfortable with her always wearing lolita). We know Margo is a bitch, but Venus def embellished her story with Margo for pity. Let's not forget her vtuber manager is to blame for malice failing because he provided everything and gave her creative freedom, Kitano can "go fuck himself", her OF manager is "abusive
" and Ken, an alleged pedo she dated for money "didn't put her mental health first" but she had no problem hyping up, doxxing and exploiting a child's alleged sexual abuse and spinning the story into a "pity me pls" story. She's a fucking bitch who keeps changing her story (including her story with Margo) that I don't believe Margo was even as bad as she claims. She's still shaming Manaki in her live streams for his supposed sexuality but we're supposed to accept that "she's gay" when it's time for her to use that an excuse to end an illegal visa marriage. Quite literally, everyone in her life is an abuser. She's not to be trusted.>>144662
She already said she stopped working with that manager and said so on discord. Now she's working with Kyrie/Momonga crap.
On a random note, in one stream Venus claimed she was going to go to school for something science related, one week later in a stream, she said, "fuck school." She also dressed up as Margo did in her baking stream and then Margo posted a selfie where she edited her chin into a dorito. Pretty sure they're mocking each other, but this could be a reach. She also said she can afford to buy anything herself, but is still going to capitalize off her fans and open an amazon wishlist because she's just that greedy, entitled and opportunistic.
the way she framed manaki being against the surgery as him being abusive
was so odd to me. who would want their girlfriend getting unnecessary weight loss surgery?
Exactly. Margo was probably unemotionally unavailable and definitely overbearing and an irresponsible parent in many ways, but Venus weaved the story into something much worse to get her dream Japanese kawaii life. That was the aim. Notice how she claimed to have left because Margaret was mean to Manaki but she previously shit talked Manaki to her mom when they broke up and in her surgery email to Marge after she left. And she said Marge didn't want them to marry, then when she needed to demonize Manaki, she said that Marge forced her to marry him and she never loved him. But prior to that was pretending to love him to get away with visa fraud, yet later on, admitted to cheating on him (she claimed her second sexual partner was her husband, which means she cheated on him since she claimed it was when she was 19, it also supports what the alleged friend said here in previous threads that she repeatedly cheated on him). She does this with Manaki as well as her managers, and we have proof she lied about Manaki not working, as well as Margo forcing her to marry Manaki (Marge literally posted she thought Manaki influenced Venus to leave and she wanted to get her daughter back and went to get her at the airport). Venus is like Margo in that there are some truths sometimes in her story (although she lies more than Marge imo), but it's always aggrandized, spun into some mega abuse and woven into a woe is me narrative. She even did it with Ken and the child she exploited. It was all about how SHE is such a victim
. Never mind that she admitted to dating a person she knew was a pedo, exposing that child's alleged abuse and it "only kept her up sometimes." She's incredibly selfish, self-absorbed and sociopathic. I remember she once said guilt was one of the emotions she felt the least by agreeing with a diagram that placed it the lowest. That's pretty telling.>>145416
I don't think she's with Manaki either. She talked about getting a home in the countryside a while ago (aka: crashing with someone once again like when she was with Ken, Kitano and her OF manager).
She considers it as controlling
(telling her what to do) and thus, abusive
, which is ridiculous. There's the possibility he threatened to divorce her then, but that'd probably just be a bluff to get her to not do something so insanely stupid. If he didn't try to stop her, the she'd just call him an enabler that never cared for her. Can't win with her.
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This is a screenshot from the live stream she did, I can’t believe how bad she looks here, someone in the live chat said why are you drinking alcohol if you have a problem with it and she replied that she doesn’t have a problem with alcohol at all, she also said she’s healthy, all she does is eat convenience junk food and drink alcohol, at this point I’m actually pretty worried about her
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kek I was gonna say the same thing
>>146308>>claiming EVERYONE in her life was a vile abuser.>>Quite literally, everyone in her life is an abuser. She's not to be trusted.
Don't forget though, this is how it could appear to someone who has never suffered abuse. It seems hard to believe. Sadly though, victims
of childhood abuse can somehow attract more abusers into their life, and so the pattern gets entrenched and the abuse goes on, it's just the abusers who change. If the victim
talks about it honestly, they are likely to be disbelieved, so making them feel worse, so they find more ways of trying to cope and spiral into other ways of coping. I'm not saying this is definitely what is going on in Venus' case, but it might be, and I would never discount anything said about anyone abusing her just because of thinking it can't be EVERYONE, because sadly, it can and in some cases, is.
>>146312>>I don't think she's with Manaki either. She talked about getting a home in the countryside a while ago (aka: crashing with someone once again like when she was with Ken, Kitano and her OF manager).
It gives the same sort of seedy vibes too, whereas the place with Manaki seemed more cheerful somehow. But it might just be because of whereabouts in the place she chooses to film, she only ever films where she only shows a small part of it, or looking like she's in a corner, and doesn't appear to have much space around her as she has to walk over things to get to where she's streaming from, and the quality of filming has gone downhill from when she used to film at Manaki's place.
Did anyone notice in one of her recent streams, where she was wearing pjs with one leg rolled up and said she always has to have one leg rolled up? I thought that was really weird, just why? i know people make jokes about freemasons having to do this as part of their rituals, but that can't be the reason with Venus. Also Daniel Lord of Hiding in my room channel, often shows himself similar in some of his videos. They watch each others videos too, so maybe it's some hidden code that no one knows about? Seriously though, it just seems weird and I'm surprised no one has commented on it before.
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Wtf is up with this new ig post? She looks like a cancer patient in a bad wig. All the comments are "R U okay???" Mixed with "guys it's just make-up/jiraikei style!"
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She really does look like an old woman dressed up in young girl clothes, I really hope her looks are reversible and not permanent damage done due to alcohol, bad diet and the botched surgery, I always get a sad feeling when I see her now
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Oh my good lord does she take meth or something? Those eye bags are HARSH
Same door, same small pink table (she also used it in her recent livestreams) and the white table with the drawer in the bottom, too. Also…same ex-husband. Sad af.
Looking at her older videos (like 2-3 years ago), she had a lot more stuff then. She also used to have an actual bed, not a futon on the floor. He definitely cleared out some of her furniture and things.
I’m no fan of hers, but to see her looking like an elderly dementia patient, shaking and slurring and showing off her unused-looking self help books, back in the same room where she at least used to look happy and cared for, still with all her pink plastic treasures, is sad as fuck.
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>>146312>> She talked about getting a home in the countryside a while ago
Can you quit with this “home in the countryside” shit? There is no “home in the countryside.” She’s lying (big shock, I know.) She’s back at Manaki’s apartment leeching off him once again and has been there for months.
Anyway, she’s back to her favorite beverage, Strong Zero, the cocktail in a can. It’s cheap (about $1.80/ can) and packs a punch (9% alcohol by volume, twice that of beer.)
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Wonder how many of these she goes through in a day?
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Uuh is Manakay keeping her hostage or what? I mean I always thought he was a creep for thirsting over her 2011 niconico lives when she was 13 and he was 19… Why would they still live together when she's openly whoring herself now? Sure he doesn't know english but her raunchy insta and Twitter pics are telling enough right? So many questions, so few answers…
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Left is from a livestream just a year ago and the right is now, I’ve never seen anyone deteriorate so fast in my life
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From her newest video. Looks like scars?
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New picture, the edited fake eyelashes are the cherry on top
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What is with all the Manaki defense itt? Reminder that this is what Venus looked like (age 15) when he was her big fan on niconico, and arranging to cutemeet her at Disney. I think accusing the guy of being asexual rather than a pervert is doing him a favor, all things considered.
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kek what the fuck anon, Japanese women don't "look like that" at 30? What sort of weeb bullshit is that? Here's a completely randomly chosen popular Japanse actress, Kasumi Arimura, who is 28. She in no way resembles a 15 year old white girl? Besides, being attracted to women who look young doesn't make you instantly a pedophile, I agree with that. What does make you a pedophile is lusting after a teenage girl, regardless of how she looks.
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She looks like current day Patti Smith lmao
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She looks like a drug addict to me. Also, if she went for a surgery to look slimmer it wouldn’t surprise me if she’s now taking drugs for weight-loss. There’s no reason to assume she’s getting any better since she’s not getting any help for her ed.
I haven’t seen a single piece of evidence that Manaki is a pedophile. It seems like you have no clue about pedophilia at all. Here, have a quote from psychology today:> Pedophilia is defined as recurrent and intense sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors involving sexual activity with a prepubescent child or children—generally age 13 years or younger—over a period of at least six months.
So no, lusting after a girl who isn’t of prepubescent age is not a sign of pedophilia.
Well she is taking drugs if she's on medication.
Question is, who isn't
on medication these days? Big pharma's plan and all that!
-And no, I'm not.
This looks like somewhere more drab and dingy than in the earlier picture just now.
Anyway at least she looks decent here and like herself, not those terrible instagram pictures.
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This comment on her newest insta photo made me lol. Her fanbase is so easy to manipulate it’s not even funny.
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it is the same place
Yes he might be that, but that is not a pedo, and that is the point.
As the other poster rightly said, the term has become so abused now, it's lost its original meaning and has just become a blanket term for anyone older liking someone younger, while still keeping it in the 'pervert' category.
My god what the hell happened to her! She has become a shell of herself she used to be bubbly and had a spark and funny personality, now she’s seems so lost and hurt. It hard to witness her videos.
Could she be taking drugs? Potentially a weight loss pill that makes you incredibly ill not sure if that’s a thing tho?>>146550
Oh yeah marina took it so far and pretended to run away twice it was so fake after first video,she could also be trying act like Eugenia cooney by acting controlled and being ultra thin
In their first video together, the Q&A (now deleted, but you can watch it on bilibili) Venus explains that he "loved" her since her niconico days when she was 13 and he was 19 (they're 6 years apart). We're talking about a regular viewer that met her in person 2 years later when she was 15 and he was 21. Idk why all the Manaki defenders always conveniently leave out those facts when there's evidence, but hey. Imma just leave this here, make your own opinion, personally idc that ~east asian men prefer youthful and cute girls, it's just their culture uwu~ it's still creepy as hell. And him being a creep doesn't make Venus an innocent little angel either, she's fucked up too in different ways.
Boyfriend Q&A: https://m.bilibili.com/video/av11301284
Unfortunately, being attracted to young girls will always be a thing for lots of men. It has always been like this, even worse a few hundred years ago, when families were trying to arrange marriages of their own teenage girls to older, wealthier men for status/money. That was ordinary back then.
Obviously standards have changed since then, (and also there's the law) but we're talking about nature, or, "animalistic insticts" or however you like to call it.
In men's eyes, every girl that looks "developed" enough might be considered attractive, even if she's only 13.
And before you jump, Ofcourse im against this, im just stating facts, based on guys' opinions who are not pedophiles.
Pedophile - attracted to prepubescent children.
If I remember correctly, Venus already had a pretty developed body for a 13 year old. (even tho she had a baby face).
Wow i dont even know where to start with your post.
What even is a pedophile to you,seems like a guy could molest a 5 year old and he is not a pedophile based on your definition if he says she looks developed.
13 years old is still a child no matter how they look like.
Also sage your off-topic autistic shit.
Also you can call out Venus for being a piece of shit person or have sympathy for manaki without resorting to defending pedophilia.
I am sorry that you're offended by the scientific
term of pedophilia. I am not defending anyone, just stating facts, cuz seems like people don't know what it means. And my post was meant to the post above me.(pedo derailing)
Yeah def think there is some weird weeb Japanese worship happening in this thread. I like Japanese shit (why else would I be posting on a VenusAngelic thread on an imageboard?) but feels like there may be a few anons who feel bitter that Venus didn't keep her precocious life with an uwu Japanese boyfriend and a kawaii room all to herself. Its like their dream and seeing her throw it away makes them really angry. Not to mention the one who thinks adult Japanese women look like 13 year old white girls. Buffoonery, that dream Japan in their imagination where no one ages and they have some drastically different phenotype to other Asians.
Btw you can think Venus is ultimately a bad person while also acknowledging that Manaki was wrong to be her "big fan" when she was BARELY post-pubescent.
She was doing okay with her getting a role in that Kamen Rider show, she would have had few small connections to work and get small allowance, possibly even have a tiny merch products if she keeps at it with positive background, but nope, being drunk is way more important cuz it's real (basically Gen Z and teens of any age stupid philosophy)
I'm not 100% sure that Manaki is still around, I mean lots of house can resemble the same room, if she is back with him constantly, dang, she can never actually do anything in life other than being a laughingstock all her life
I don't find it sad or pitiful but more towards being pathetically and wretchedly dull but addiction is an addiction, until she starts being 100% honest with her condition and what has happened to her audience, I will always view it at downward spiral to letting herself be pathetic and it's not even cute too
>>146789>>I'm not 100% sure that Manaki is still around, I mean lots of house can resemble the same room,
I thought that too, it looks the same in some ways but not others. Someone here who keeps going on about her 'pink' room at Manaki's. but the room where she films now, isn't pink.
Watching her latest video room tour, something seems so off about it. She looks quite scared at points, like she's being forced into doing it. Unless Manaki's forcing her to make some money off of Youtube if she wants to stay at his place? But I know I'm reaching with that theory. I did wonder who was filming though, I mean obviously someone else was, it wasn't Venus filming herself, and in some parts, especially in the bit where she gestured towards the doll, she looked quite scared when she looked at the person filming her, and I did wonder if it was Manaki, as she seemed afraid and wanting to make it look as though she really valued that doll, and wasn't it one he bought her?
I don't know, it's just all speculation but I do feel concern for her as it certainly seems as though something is wrong, and I hope she's not being coerced into doing something against her will.
The editing seemed a bit haphazard too in this video, like she showed her plushies but where was the big round black cat plushie? (was it called Pom?) that she had in her live streams recently, it seems odd that it didn't feature in her room tour, and I thought it maybe had but she edited it out for some reason, maybe because of something else in the video at the same time that she didn't want to show.
And what has happened to all her things? She's only got a tiny fraction here of what she had before. Unless she really has got two places, and so some of her stuff is here and the rest in the other place?
>>146807> She looks quite scared at points, like she's being forced into doing it. Unless Manaki's forcing her to make some money off of Youtube if she wants to stay at his place? But I know I'm reaching with that theory.
The doormat wouldn’t force her to do anything lol. I didn’t see her as being scared of something, though I’m sure if she reads this thread and the comments of her video she would gladly ride that theory to make herself look like a victim
To me she looked like she was mentally unstable in that video, maybe under the influence of some drug. Drugs can make you paranoid or even psychotic which often leads to fearful/nervous behaviour. Ofc this might be reaching but looking at her deteriorated appearance I wouldn’t disregard this theory.
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This is just me speculating so if folks have better explanation or disagree its OK, but there is quite a stark time gap of her uploading videos, and during this timeline, you can see her post getting less and less umm porn-y? in her Instagram and Twitter account, while she does have that one funny af pic of her in pink bikini + cat ears, but generally since October, it has been toned down, I'm wondering she has to earn her keep if she wants to stay in that room or house since Manaki likes cute things, so she's back to doing kinda cutesy style videos and that makes her frustrated and looking like Ju-on's pink sister
I know folks call Manaki a doormat and cuck, but tbh if Venus herself that goes back to him and she had to earn her place there by doing these videos, he isn't loosing anything compared to her, it's like an obnoxious thot being forced to make videos for money according to what her simp want, it's a comedy
And no I don't mean Manaki threatened her or anything like that to make videos, more like he stands his ground this time, we know she's not afraid of him (and Venus is not bound to anything to make those videos, it's all her choices and decisions in the matter and actions) but we know she has this needs of wanting to excessively indulge herself with expensive food and items, she's even willing to flash her flap jack for it, and so far only Manaki has provided those wealth compared to other sugar daddies and her other side dick despite being a factory worker
Again, this is all just speculations since I'm still not sure of anything, Venus could have just living in another house that looks similar while having her original belongings moved there, the guy recording could have been anyone in that new video, or Manaki doesn't live there anymore, too many gaping hole for me to be sure of anything really♀️♀️♀️ (Since Venus will never be honest)
Also, Jirai-Kei my ass, that's Ju-On Kei(emojis)
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she's obviously living with manaki and don't use emojis
That's just sad, Manaki is a doormat but at least he's not looking like a dead 19th century grandma who just rise from the dead in 80s and sounds like one as well
Also, whoops, sorry, didn't know Emoji is your trigger
This might be a reach but I don't think manaki is a doormat or innocent at all, or that she is just faking it for attention. She is still very young and growing up was just controlled by her mother, poor hygiene is a sign of narcissistic parents, they will control you and not let you do anything, probably even on her late teens if she wanted to buy a snack she would have to ask her mom for 2 euros and explain what she was gonna buy, that's just how it works with narcissistic parents. She probably was never taught how to be a responsible adult (pay bills, keep money, documentation management) so when she escaped she was again controlled by this perv, if you look at the time she escaped she was starting to dress more like an adult, then started living with manaki and all the adult baby bullshit started, even her room he keeps it as a little girls dream. She probably just tried to escape again and fell for some perv lies again and when she did not have another choice had to come back to manaki, he is expressing his control over her like "see I am the only one that can help you". Honestly she is still pretty young to be so demonized as some mastermind manipulator, when other girls her age are getting their father to give them a ride because is scary at night and what is she supposed to be all mature just because she endured years of control and abuse? She is basically all alone in a foreign county, and there is a track of people just taking advantage of her is not all lies. If this was happening in England the police would be alerted. All her behaviour and degradation just screams abuse cooping mechanism.
you can tone down the cuntiness, it’s against the rules to use emojis
also sage your shit
because this apartment ist connected to his job at the factory. >>146850>her bank account was set and controlled by manaki
when did we ever have proof of this other than weird kappa marglish or drunken rants by penus
Lmao this is the worst attempt ever seen to skinwalk Hanayo & other menhera chicks >>146636
Well, there's not much to expect from this womanchild's fanbase. If someday Penus decides to make scat porn or livestream herself jumping from a bridge, they'll be cheering on her no matter what.
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As in this random shot from the BBQ video. You can see she doesn't look any older than the example given of a year ago, and she certainly looks a lot younger than in the Jirai kei getup.
Some really, really, like to do that, lol.
Also, the Whisper Chat ASMR video she did just a month ago, she looks fine in that.
JFC WTF happened
What’s going on
So… her next addiction will be nasal spray, right? kek
What the fuck is she even doing anymore?
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I wasn't aware there was a thing like this, sniffing alcohol can’t be good for you but it’s not like venus cares about her health, looks like it just gets you drunk a lot quicker
I googled that bar, it sells all kinds of other shit like cannabis/peyote liquor, deer penis liquor (?!), magic mushrooms.
Experimenting with that stuff at her age is fairly normal, but it’s the kind of stuff you do with friends - she’s always doing these things alone and dressed in kawaii shit. It’s somehow just weird.
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I recently asked her in a live stream what's about that orange cat that used to walk around in her videos, because she was talking about getting a new pet and was asking the followers which pet she should get. So I was just curious and asked, she replied that she is not sure what I mean like that cat never existed but one can clearly see it in several of her streams. She is constantly just getting new pets like they are toys ♂️♂️(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
>>147045>>she had hamsters before didn't she?
Yes, and look what happened to them!
(Which was kinda my point.)
I looked through the thread and only found one thing that said anything about the marina woman and that wasn't actually saying much. And you expect me to waste my
time by spending ages looking back over the thread and throw out accusations of "time wasting"! Laughable. There was no need for rudeness or for you to say anything as you have contributed nothing to say about Venus in your post just trying to attack someone for rightly mentioning that comparisons to other people that you may follow and know a lot about doesn't mean that everyone else follows them and knows anything about them. This thread is about Venus and not everyone who follows her will know anything about them. If you wanted to make comparisons, you could at least have gone into proper detail about who they are and what exactly they did and the outcome and then compare it to Venus. That is just common courtesy, something you obviously are lacking in, going by your rude response to a harmless statement.
I could say that maybe Venus is really like "lonelygirl15" and that maybe everything she does is just an act, but then I'd explain exactly what had transpired with that whole lonelygirl15 thing and how it had been all fake from the start, but that all her followers had believed it. And no I don't believe that Venus is all fake but I have sometimes wondered if it is like that lonelygirl15 thing, though I only found out about lonelygirl15 a few years ago and so never followed her myself back when she was active.
What I'm saying is there is no need to make comments attacking someone just for saying something harmless.
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HIMR/Daniel Lord recently talked about wanting to meet Venus on his discord.
Cat wasn't hers, it was her boyfriend's or whoever it was she was hanging out with at the time. and it produced a shitstorm of comments from people saying she wasn't holding it right and how it was trying to get away from her.
Was this the same cat that was called "Cream"? or is this a different one?
Seconding this, it is always strange that Venus is going this stuff alone and constantly being blogged by others who she doesn't really associate with or talk about on her half.
(Honestly maybe some mushrooms would do her good lol) >>147109
This video is so depressing, she's so young and used to be lively.. but now all she does is get drunk at bars.
I wonder if Venus had ever abused nasal sprays, (in my country/CA) many addicts fall under the radar because they abuse the nasal sprays you can get at the store. I'm sure they have this in Japan. Too reachy?>>147200
Savior syndrome lol, hopefully she won't take him up on this offer but I never know now.
It's sad watching her deteriorate, she could really turn her life around and be inspiring if she tried. She could have been an example that she was capable after she left mother, but the trauma runs too deep in both. Venus never seemed to maintain her friendships. Her mother was a pos but I'm sure it still hurts her to see Venus like this too.
I just wonder how things could've been different.
Also what's the update on Taylor and Venus? They claimed to keep touch before but I don't think they ever did?
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Is this the same cat? I can't really tell from the pictures, and I recall something being said on here about there being two cats who looked similar but who were different.
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Well, Daniel basically looks like a middle aged, skinny woman. Venus just has to buy him a wig and put him into some of her tacky jirai kei outfits.
I really want to see those two socially inept, mentally ill weebs interact with each other.
She does that when she doesn't want to answer something. Evasiveness, acting innocent like she didn't understand the question or in this case didn't know what you meant or were referring to when she obviously did.
Why didn't she just say "oh yes, that wasn't my cat" and leave it at that, and if anyone had asked her whose it was, she could just ignore that question or say she'd rather not answer. To pretend she didn't know what cat you were talking about is just silly. I remember hearing that in the stream. I suppose it's just possible she might have taken it completely literally and so not fathom what cat you meant, (didn't you say "orange cat") but I expect she knew full well which cat you meant but just didn't want to answer. But there have been two similar cats so I won't condemn her too much for that.
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Imagine basing your look off of mental instability… so edgy. I can see this landmine girl bullshit being attractive to teenagers but once your in your mid twenties I think it’s time to grow up a bit. Kinda cringe
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what is with this pointed nose/chin photoshopping she’s obsessed with at the moment? she looks like she belongs that 2014 short, Human Form
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I mean what's wrong with her? How can one not see that this simply not looks good. That pose and facial expression gives me nightmares
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Jesus sorry for hygiene autism but every cow on /w/ needs a tape roll for clothes, including Venus. Is it so damn hard to spend 10 seconds taping the garment before posing in your dirty ass dark sweater ? Why does every cow need help with their laundry? Is it a cow thing or depression or what
She seems to want to look like an ugly old witch instead of how she actually does look, which if you look at her in her recent ASMR whisper video and the Korean BBQ video, is actually still a very pretty girl, but she doesn't like looking pretty for some reason, maybe self loathing, I don't know, it's so weird.
Why would anyone sane want to make themself look worse? But then, she's meant to be not sane, she's meant to be insane, and has latched onto the landmine girl theme and the jirai kei shit, so I guess I've answered my own question.
I inwardly groaned when someone asked her if she'd get herself a pet and she said she would, poor bloody thing would have a terrible time of it.
Broke her puppy's leg, killed her hamsters, or at least let them die, gets plants she doesn't look after properly so they die too.
Any animal she got, she'd not get it so she could give a good home to a living creature, it would be to reflect her image in some way, as an accessory, to look cute, like a cuddly toy, like one of her plushies. Dealing with its needs, toileting, feeding, giving proper unconditional love to, and truly, caring about it, would be beyond her. Plus she would also lose interest in it rapidly, like she does with most things. Even if she tried to look after it, she'd probably forget to feed it or otherwise do something, or not do something, that would cause it distress. And then blame it on her 'condition', whatever 'condition' that happened to be at the time.
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Those pupils and eyelashes are everything
True, and let's face it, any girl who really did have an ugly, sharp featured face like that, would be more likely to want surgery to make themselves look how Venus looks naturally.
She has such a cute face, with a very youthful shape, it's mental that she tries to turn herself into an ugly pointy chinned hag.
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Imagine deliberately making yourself look as ugly as this! She truly is retarded.
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Caption is: 125 Retweets and I’ll post a spicy video of me in this outfit
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From one of her most recent Twitter post, she has bruising in the inner of her arm..
before everyone jumps to assumptions, remember that she recently was at a mental ward, and they most likely took blood samples. She might of needed to go back to the hospital/take blood samples again for medication. I've gotten bruising like this from that myself.
Also, isn't it incredibly difficult to get drugs in japan because it's so highly illegal… Especially something like H?
I've noticed in loads of her Instagram pictures, it looks like she has five o'clock shadow. It's quite noticeable in this one, especially when viewed in the smaller picture.
Is it her stupid obsessive editing of her lower face that causes that?
Why the hell can't she just show her natural face? It looks so much better than those ridiculous shoops.
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Back at it again with the worst filter ever.
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Someone commented on that post that she should wink in her next one if she needed help and so next post she did. So, was she messing about or does she really need help?
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Found the comment
I wouldn’t be surprised if she did this to gain attention like she said she likes to do to worry people because she’s desperate for attention at this point
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I agree with everybody here that the editing is absolutely hideous, but the tinfoils and comments about it reach way too much at times. Her editing style is simply common for the alternative Japanese fashion she wears. If you go to the hashtag she keeps using, you'll see it used. It's really that simple!
When did Margo say Venus has Autism spectrum disorder professionally tested(I’m not calling it aspergers because it’s not good, you can google the history, and I have ASD)? She never said that Venus was actually tested for it. Screenshot it or link it please.
By the way, ASD is literally thrown on everyone that seems a bit weird. People throw around that diagnosis as if it’s nothing all the time.
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Some guy called Mikaeel Sehemi commented to her on that picture about some sort of project they'd agreed on. I wonder what that is, or if it's just another thing that will fall through?
She should move back to where she has legal citizenship and start an entry level wagie job there. She isn't entitled to stay in Japan and she isn't entitled to make a shit ton of money for possessing zero skills. But that would still be better than her being a sex worker.>>147982
I like it when projecting anons act like socially stunted, abused, and/or autistic women have never held jobs so the expectation is unreasonable somehow lol. Nope, she'll have to do some real work in her life.
And this. >>147956
This is what I’m talking about. You can’t diagnose someone just because you think they fit the bill. Autism can present itself as schizophrenia, adhd, ocd, etc. You literally can’t be socially awkward and not be autistic. Being “ social awkwardness, lack of concentration but on the other hand also weird obsessions etc.” is dumb as hell. You don’t know what you’re talking about retard.
If you actually knew about ASD, how could it possibly make sense that an autistic can know if they are really socially awkward unless people tell them? A lot of us autistic don’t know, and for the ones who do find out, they don’t realize what about their body language gives to other people. There are so many other things associated with ASD that you can’t possibly know. It’s more than social.(derailing)
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I figured you’d say that. I’ll believe what she said herself, and not other people’s opinions then. Simple.
Right. I don't know why people still persist in saying it. She's got everything she wants in Japan so why the hell would she want to leave it?
And seeing how determined she was in getting there in the first place, I'm sure if she wanted to go somewhere else, she'd be equally determined to go there too.
People should just face the fact that Japan suits her, it's where she wants to be and it seems like it's always where she wanted to be, and I hope people will stop saying she should leave, it's so futile and very, very boring.
She did say on IG that she'd had an iv and for people not to worry, in a reply to people commenting about it, so it doesn't look like she wanted people to worry or she wouldn't have bothered to reply to those comments. I should imagine she gets fed up with keep seeing the worry comments from people, and all the comments keep asking her if she's alright. No one wants to keep seeing that all the time, it's like being constantly reminded that they weren't alright in the past and like they're being dragged back to that time instead of being allowed to move on from it.
She seems to be quite happy at the moment, really into her jirai kei thing.
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She posted this then deleted it 10 seconds later, why does she always do this?
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Kek, what a mess.
Uh, because she's mental.
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That could just be the ~uwu kawaii mental breakdown~ explanation, it's more likely that she was back in the hospital for ED related complications.
Also, major tin-foiling, but why does it looks like cigarette burns on her arms? (via recent live)
People wouldn’t ask so much if she was more open about what she was doing to recover - just showing off some self help books isn’t really enough. She should either edit her IV bruises out or be proactive and explain how she got them, rather than letting people speculate. That would be interesting content, rather than the 367456667th kawaii room tour. I think viewers would want to share in that recovery journey with her, and for her to let them hold her accountable might even be good for her, since she seems to have no-one else.
(And maybe if she gave up wearing makeup that makes her look even sicker than she already is…)
I wanted to take a screenshot, too, but she deleted it.
Maybe because you could see something that looks like bruises on her chest?
More like a fully evolved manipulative narcissist. They love having a major victim
complex. Without a doubt she has a range of mental health issues, however she uses it for her own selfish "pity me" game to get what she wants in life, as well as her ego stroked on a regular basis.
Takes me back to when she was live streaming in a karaoke joint and rang Manaki to come & collect her mindlessly drunk self.
I wouldn't be surprised her "panic attack" was actually this to be honest. She has no self control.
A week ago she was sniffing alcool. Two days later she appears with a bruise because she passed out and needed an IV. Sus.
I know Japan give IV easily but for a panic attack?? Really??
>>148313>> when she was live streaming in a karaoke joint and rang Manaki to come & collect her mindlessly drunk self.
Here it is again, for old times’ sake.
I wonder how many other humiliating public scenes she’s caused the poor simp. No sympathy here, he keeps taking her back.
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From the drunk livestream, after face planting in a bowl of ramen. Good times for Manaki having to show up and collect her drunk ass to take home.
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the peanut head beauty filter trend has GOT to stop
Bless you anon for bringing it back. Simpnaki will be firmly wrapped around her finger for many years to come, no doubt about that.
Everytime she seems to have a mental health "breakdown", she returns to his apartment on way more than one occasion. Crawling back to the cuck again and again, playing the victim
card so he feels bad for her on a never-ending loop.
Or something she's taking. She said she's on medication that contains amphetamines and i only heard recently someone talking about how amphetamine use to try and keep slim can cause someone to pass out.
Though I don't know why she would need that to try and keep slim, because wouldn't the surgery she had mean she will not be able to gain weight anyway, even if she wanted to?
Q "Are you often jealous?"
A "No. I like myself too much."
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And LOL at some guy in the chat asking Manaki has only fans?
Venus was fed up of being asked by people what she's studying, she said because of her situation she is unable to study so she has to find other ways of making money, she hustles.
Would she be an office lady? If in Only Fans terms, like dressing up, she would, but if she had to be a real office lady, then she'd kill her boss.
She also said she used to have body dysmorphia but since doing Only Fans, not any more.
She's getting good at answering questions from viewers, but I don't know how entirely honest she's being in the answers.
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Makes me think of that old Sex Pistols song, Belsen Is A Gas.
Kek but they're "divorced" because of his abusive
behavior according to Weenus.
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What's she drinking? people are saying in the comments it isn't milk, seems to be some sort of in joke thing going on with some of the posters, but I don't get it, someone saying she shouldn't be drinking it as it's nasty. Is it alcohol?
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>>148265>> sounds like she's getting exasperated with all the is she alright comments. I feel sorry for her, it must be so wearing seeing all that crap over and over again.
Riiight, poor Venus must be SO TIRED of all this concern! Like she was when she posted this
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Are you kidding? She fucking craves and loves and feeds on that shit. She’s a miniature version of her sociopath mother. Remember Margo’s repeated suicide bating? Meet Margo jr.
So how new are you to this trainwreck, anyway? Because you seem brand new, >>148265
Sweetie, she’s not >>moving on.
BPD people don’t “move on.” She’s just getting more sneaky and subtle about her sympathy baiting. Perfecting her skills as she gets older, if you will.
But hey, keep on keeping on with the oh noes, poor Venus! SO BRAVE!
People don't recover that quickly from trauma related problems, there are always going to be ups and downs, but she really does seem to be managing better now, she's going out and seems more in control. She seemed sensible and knowing what she was talking about in her latest live stream.
She was also going somewhere in a taxi or maybe someone like Manaki, or her manager, or freind or someone, was driving her. She'd done her nails nicely and was quite pleased about it, so she looks to be doing alright now. We can only hope for the best for her, it's nice to see her doing better. I know people like to laugh at her here, and that's fine, but I take no pleasure in seeing someone suffering and I hope she feels a lot better now than she did in those darker times.
yeah sure moving back in with her "abusive
" ex husband is definitely "moving on".
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Manaki's account is back up. it was renamed and set private for a while or do I remember that incorrectly? I mean that was what sparked the Kappa's last psychotic rant, wasn't it?
Another story she told while forgetting to spin the "we're divorced" narrative. Who knows really. What we do know is she's shacking back up with the simp because she probably played the "I'll be homeless please save me" card.
Instead of getting her own little place courtesy of OF bucks, she prefers being a leech. What a pathetic life.
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what the fuck though
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I wonder who's driving in those insta stories she posted.
Damn it's been such a long time since I've seen doormat-san, he looks even more like a beta loser otaku than I remember.
He's part of the large male population in Japan who are complacent with anime porn and don't bother seeking anything of substance. He won't even try to get Venus back or give her the boot. Truly pathetic.
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She posted this a half hour ago, dunno what it should mean
Isn't she meant to be a demon here?>>148509
Is it Manaki?
I thought at first she was holding up a false finger, it looks odd. It looks like she's indicating "That way, chauffeur" .>>148579
Oh lord, I hope those are not real tattoos.
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jirai onna girls drink strong zero, that's why she likes it. It's like Japanese white claw.
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Strong Zero has been her fave beverage for at least the past two years now. It’s cheap and gets you real drunk real fast. She drinks cheap wine every now and again but she always goes back to Strong Zero.
So now she’s trying to make it look cool instead of pathetic I guess.
She said that, but if I remember rightly, she's in the same place where a few videos ago, she said was her place in the country. So at one point she made it sound like she was living in a place in the country, like it was her own place, where she preferred living because it was quiter, then when someone asked her the question about Manaki, she replied so confirming that's where she was. Giving her the benefit of the doubt, I suppose we can say that Manaki must live in the country rather than a busy place, and as his wife I suppose she might naturally think of it as her own place too, and not just Manaki's place. It would be 'their' place, as a married couple, therefore it would be 'her' place and can be referred to as such, if they are still married, if they are, she said they were not long ago, even though at an earlier time she claimed she was getting divorced. I don't ever remember her confirming they had indeed got divorced, so maybe they were going to, but changed their minds.
At the end of the day though, I guess it really is her own private business and I can't condemn her for wanting to keep it private, just a shame that she put it out all over the internet to begin with if she feels now she wants it private, but maybe back then she never knew how toxic
people could get about her own private life and so maybe has decided now she definitely does want to keep it private from now on.
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Here’s the screenshot (I don’t know German either)
True, it does sound more like rape…
If its true, then this is 3 generations of a fucked up family…
I hope Venus won't continue the line and will never have her own children…
She could become more wise and know what not
Whatever, it is sad. I feel sorry for both of them. Venus and her mother.
Even though I'm German I needed like 5 minutes to even understand the first sentence, good lord.
Does this mean Margo's a product of incest…? If so, why on earth would Venus post it? Or did Margo go full tinfoil-hat?
Probably full tinfoil-hat, lmao.
Maggot always makes word salads.
I’ll never understand why Margaret chose to make everything so difficult and unstable for them. She is still this bad at English and Swiss-German, but she never taught Venus her native language. Why would she do that? I always wonder how the inability to communicate fluently in either language to each other screwed Venus up even more than if she had grown up properly bilingual. Like she had to live always second-guessing everything her mom said even without the obvious lying or exaggerations.>>148806
Could it be that she hates her father enough that she doesn’t want to acknowledge their relation, but identifies with her grandfather more? She once insulted Venus by saying mental illness ran in her family but miraculously skipped over her and affected Venus instead.
>>148422>>her sociopath mother. Remember Margo’s repeated suicide bating?
I wonder if her mother was doing that when Venus was still a young child? That is incredibly damaging to child's psyche. It becomes like the child has to feel responsible for the parent's well being and to feel like they have to be responsible for the parent (usually the mother), I know three cases of this and it screws up the kids minds as they can't be carefree, have to always be worrying about what state of mind the mother is in and sometimes have to be like a carer for their mother when it's the mother who should be caring for them
If Margaret was having these depressive thoughts back when Venus was a young child it's a shame she couldn't have reached out for help to someone, like a therapist or someone if her family or friends didn't help her, maybe she did but didn't get proper help, but whatever if she was like that back then, then it's no wonder that it affected Venus' mental health.
>>148767>>148768>>sounds like rape
Why? It's not unheard of for women to have sex with their husband's or boyfriend's father. Doesn't mean it's rape. Things can get complicated with people, women can have sex with their in-laws, sister's husband, husband's father or brother or uncle or nephew or whatever, if a child ensues as a result, things get even more complicated.
So it wouldn't have to mean there was any rape, if Venus' grandmother had sex with her husband/boyfriend's father, she wouldn't be the first woman in the world to do so is what I'm saying. In this case though, we don't even know that is the case as it is not clear what Margaret meant.
What exactly is Margaret's native language? Sorry I don't know much about these things. I thought her native language would be German or Swiss German, not that I know anything much about either or what the real difference is. I've never been taught anything about other languages except French, a terrible failure in English speaking schools I think.
Is her native language Hungarian? But she lived in Switzerland? It's all very complicated.
Venus said in her recent live when asked about Manaki, that she didn't want to answer questions about her personal life but said that she would answer that, just to say that he does exactly the same as her, (look at porn, go on Only fans, and get drunk all day). But, she said she didn't want to have to answer any questions about her personal life, which seemed sensible and I thought good for her. But now, what does she do? She goes and posts publicly online, for all to see, a private email from her mother to her, obviously not meant for anyone else to see.
I have conflicted thoughts as to why. Why would she do this?
Is it because she is bombarded with this sort of thing from her mother every day and she doesn't know how to deal with it, and is posting online hoping to get some sort of help or advice from someone there?
Surely Margaret wouldn't want this to be made public? So why would Venus do this? Especially when she so recently said she didn't want to answer any questions about her personal life, indicating she wanted to keep her private life private.
But then she posts online this private email from her mother to her.
Venus knows that everything she says or does ends up here in Lolcow, so has she done this to make her mother feel worse? It seems cruel. I actually feel really sorry for Margaret right now. If the speculation that has ensued over it here, is true, Margaret can't be blamed for any of that, it is not her fault what happened before she was born. She can't help who her parents are. Maybe she only found out recently, or maybe she always knew, or maybe it isn't how it has been interpreted here and it is just her jumbled way of writing that has made the meaning ambiguous. Whatever the truth behind any of it is, the fact remains that it is a private email from her to Venus and should have stayed private. It just makes Venus look bad for posting it online, when she knows it would get reposted here, and now on Kiwi farms too, and probably elsewhere where people gossip. Awful.
Yes, at first I thought the same, but the fact that she said both
her parents hate her because of her being the daughter of her grandpa, kinda suggests that this maybe wasn't something her mother wanted to do…that's why maybe there was rape involved.
Anyhow, keep in mind this is Margaret; she rarely says 100% truths. Maybe its just a good excuse for Margaret to explain why her parents are against her now days
and that in reality, maybe they did
love her when she grew up with them, but had change of heart when they learned what she did to her own daughter.
Because from this email it suggests like her parents are trying to contact Venus and also go against Margaret, so her motive is to try to defend herself (in a poor way..)
Who knows. All what Margaret says are lies sprinkled with some truth to make it sound real…It's called manipulation.
Venus learned best from her own mother.
As you said, there's a reason why Venus decided to make this public. And I believe its not from pitying her, or for trying to help her mother, its to ruin her reputation.
Venus doesn't realize that this ruins her own reputation as well. Margaret and Venus are bonded; this action Venus made will reflect badly on herself as well.
Well, she's not that intelligent, as we all know. I'm actually not surprised she made this public.
She's rotten just like her mother.
By Venus’ own admission, she likes shit stirring and “making people worry” about her. She’s a mentally ill edgelord.
And Margo is just as crazy. She’s said ridiculous stuff before, like Venus murdered Manaki and she’s involved with the yakuza, and that she was never anything but a loving supportive parent. She can’t form a coherent sentence in any language.
But suddenly this random screenshot is 100% word for word truth…? Okay.
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I think the decline was a lot more gradual than these pictures suggest… she just used to be less exhausted and put more time into editing away any signs of aging in the past (now she slaps on a filter or let’s herself look haggard). You could more realistically see her aging in other people’s pictures, like this one from 2017 (I mean she looks fine, but less flawless than her own content)
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H er “secretary”/Kirie is basically the same person as her but male. He is frequently on Discord justifying lack of content on OF and asking people how to upload files because his “brain turns off” when he works with technology. His Momonga thing seems abandoned and his discord plans are a “bust” according to him.
Ferenc used to post nasty shit about Margo on his insta, probably translated by Zsu, who also did the same (and made a new account using her 2 dogs names where she made a few more jabs at Margo after she left/or was kicked from Korea). Zsu pretended their family was perfect/loving and blamed everything on Margo, just like Margo blames everything on Venus/ex-husband and Venus blames everything on Margo/Manaki/all her managers. One of the things he said was that Margo kept Venus away from them (which isn't true as Margo says since she literally had pics of young Venus with her family), which is likely why she says they're crazy. Basically, she's calling them liars. I'm assuming her grandparents are messaging Venus saying shit about Margo and she's trying to defend herself. Margo had somewhat recently said she was on better terms with her family after Venus started thotting because they saw Venus as the liar she is, but I guess that went south. I remember Ferenc made fun of Margo when she got detained, talking about a prison book she translated for him and offered a house to Venus, who did NOT need one, given she was leeching off Manaki, had ALL the YT money and was well of. Ferenc is a piece of shit, no matter how shitty Margo is. I assume Venus shared this message to deepen the wedge between Margo and her parents because she's a vindictive piece of shit herself.
She technically didn't confirm. Someone asked how Manaki feels that she leeches off him, gets drunk/does OF, and even though that's private, she jumped at the chance to berate/slander him once again. All she said was he does the same – ie: gets drunk/sits at home/leeches/does OF. Not to white knight, but he definitely doesn't do the same as her and is much more stable. No where did she "confirm" she lives with him, but looking at the room color/walls/window/closet position, it does look like her old room with him. I wish the dude would tell her toxic
, manipulative, abusive
ass to fuck off already and kick her out. But she probably has leverage on him. Like maybe she threatened to report him for their visa fraud or something. Or maybe he's completely unaware of the extent to which she slandered him and continues to trash-talk him. I assume it was him filming then in her room tour. She seemed uncomfortable, like there's bad blood between them, which begs the question, why is he allowing her to live with him? Is she maybe paying him this time, since no one else will rent to a person whose "job" is YT or "internet sex work."
>>148514>who are complacent with anime porn and don't bother seeking anything of substance. He won't even try to get Venus back
You have no idea if that's true. Venus used to complain that he looked at her ass all the time/wanted her, but once they break up, he's asexual only into anime girls
. Yeah right. He might be into hentai, but I doubt he's asexual and not interested in real girls. Or maybe Venus was so abusive
she put him off from dating. She was already caught lying about him in her slander video, lying about being "forced" to marry him, changed her stories 4939220 times and even admit to cheating on him "playing around with girls" + her first time having sex wasn't with Manaki, he was the second person she named, and you're going to state that as fact. He's pathetic for keeping her around and would be even more pathetic to try to reconcile anything with her, you're right about that. But Venus is a manipulator, so who knows what she said to get back, assuming that really is her old room when she lived with him.
And just recently she was pretending she moved and got her own place and escaped her once again, abusive
manager. Poor weenoos, everyone is always soo abusive
to her and doesn't put her mental health first! /sarc. Makes sense why she's making videos again when Manaki is there to mollycoddle her bitch ass.>>148421>That was then though, she's trying to move on from all that now, but how can she if people won't let her?
Yeah, let's just let her "move on" from destroying people's lives and taking no accountability. How convenient for her.>>148420
Don't forget when she literally admit she likes to make up abuse stories/suicide bait to worry people and didn't clear up the OF manager incident, which to me, seemed like she was so drunk she fell down, and not necessarily being hit by him.
They specifically said leeching from Manaki and getting drunk
. It's okay, white knight, you can say it. You can say the L word.
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>>147440>has such a cute face, with a very youthful shape
KEK. Never change, pointy-chin sperg.
you're comparing a shitty webcam video with a ring light (and possible beauty filter) to a better quality camera that shows her skin texture/grooves off better. Terrible comparison. A lot of her videos have facial blurring/smoothing and/or filters/ring lights. The room tour one probably didnt.>>146483
Same for this one. She's streaming off a webcam and ring light on the left so you can't really see her skin texture (it doesn't even really look like her ie: no jowls on webcam so I'm betting there are beauty filters or facial smoothing in addition) to a video with a higher quality camera and no ring light. She's always had bad jowls, and the puffy eyes are due to the double eye lid tape she sticks on there (see her 'How to look like a drunk girl' makeup video). She doesnt look like herself in photos or on webcam. When she uses a better quality camera, so you can see what she really looks like, you call it, 'deterioration', when in fact, it's just how she looks and has looked for a while. Also, she puts her hair on her cheeks to make her face look slimmer. Aegyo sal tape/makeup/lenses to enlarge eyes and facial blurring/filters to fix skin in videos.
>>148950>>the fact that she said both her parents hate her because of her being the daughter of her grandpa, kinda suggests that this maybe wasn't something her mother wanted to do…that's why maybe there was rape involved.
Or maybe just another case of a woman giving into temptation and having sex with someone which she later regretted doing? Maybe they don't always foresee a child coming from an illicit union. When a nasty little thing like getting pregnant gets in the way, the deed has been done and all can see, whereas if no pregnancy had resulted, no one would have been any the wiser if the participants had aimed to keep it secret what they had done.
Of course, none of this could actually apply in this case, because we don't really know what Margaret meant.
Margo literally wrote: "Venus, I know I'm my grandfather's and that's why my "father" lies about his father"
"they hate me, because I'm not from my father and I can clearly remember everything"
Her grandfather had sex with her mother and her mother got pregnant with her, according to that email, with or without consent is unknown.
Margo's not really trustworthy and I doubt that it's true what she writes, but that's what she, allegedly, literally wrote. There's not much imagination needed to interpret what she wrote.
But I also don't trust Venus, so who knows, if that email was actually written by margo.
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I think it's all just different light and angels making people look older or younger at times. I mean, look at her most recent videos, in the spate of videos posted in the last month, she looks a lot younger in some and older in others. In the Whisper ASMR video from a month ago, she looks lovely, also in the most recent video on Yandere relationship advice. Pic is from the recent ASMR video, she looks lovely in that. (Looks aren't everything though, she's still not that great of a person, but just saying.)
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Kinda cute I guess.
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You think she looks “lovely” in that video, really? Whatever, dear.
Agree with this. That particular anon has been here for years plugging away at anyone who even dares to put forward the slightest suggestion that Venus can look really good sometimes. It's so retarded and tedious and is the main thing that shits up this thread.
That particular anon hates her, we get that, (if we didn't by now, we never would) and they get frothingly enraged by Venus's appearance and at anyone who occasionally comments, quite rightly, that actually she looks good sometimes, as in that video.
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Venus into crypto now. Reminds me of daniel hiding in my roon