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No. 487755

>FUJOSHI (腐女子, "rotten girl"): a self-mockingly pejorative Japanese term for female fans of manga and novels that feature romantic relationships between men.

>Discuss yaoi and BL here, as well as other media aimed at (or with fanservice for) fujoshis.

>Discussion of BL games here is okay, but please do not cannibalize the otome game general.
>Discussion of Male/Male ships outside of strictly BL series is allowed, try to avoid divisiveness between slashers and classic fujos.
>No straight shit, there are other threads for that.
>Feel free to ask for recommendations, but specify what kind of material you're looking for (Genre, oneshot/series, doujinshi, SFW/NSFW etc).
>Being reasonably critical of BL is welcomed but don't come here only to bait or excessively moralsperg about fujos or how much you hate BL as a genre. Take it to Twitter.
>Be mindful of others and hide your spoilers. Use the spoiler image option and wrap your text inside spoiler tags.
>Reminder to ignore the baiting males and trolls who come to provoke.
>Keep the armchair psychology to a minimum, we've heard it all before.
>Be nice to each other, we fujos should stick together.

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No. 487757

Thread theme.

No. 487765

>>487755
shit op

No. 487766

>>487765
>not recognising classics

No. 487975

Nonas who read BLVN and BL manga in japanese/raw, how long did it take you to get comfortable reading any genre you want? I’m still at the slice of life + looking up every other word stage and sometimes it can get quite draining, just curious how long I’m gonna be in this period for. Also how many hours a day were you reading?

No. 487989

>>487975
It took me a few years, and I still struggle with fantasy/sci-fi settings.

No. 488149

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They’re really going hard on merch for the 20th anniversary huh?

No. 488178

>>487766
やらないか? is a yaoi heritage meme and should be in BL museums

No. 488184

>>488149
Im surprised they went with SP instead of SD, Youji is like an unloved stepchild in that household.

No. 488198

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>>488178
Don't even admit to your newfag status.
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm28349920

No. 488217

>>488184
Look at the dates, they’re doing DMMD and SD in june

No. 488221

>>488178
>>488198
you can both go gargle some 2ch barafag's balls, idgaf(infighting)

No. 488223

>>488221
nta but every veteran knows this meme

No. 488257

>>488223
I love the magnet cover
I liked the fan voice for Abe more than the official one honestly, the official one had too much of a lisp.

No. 488259

>>488257
Thw cocks on the earphones took me out

No. 488262

death to barafags all of which are men(bait)

No. 488263

>>488259
I feel retarded for not noticing them till you pointed it out
>>488262
Pretending that Kuso miso isn’t a part of fujo meme culture and history is retarded, just give up.

No. 488265

>>488263
Its ugly and disgusting I don’t care if its a meme.(bait)

No. 488269


No. 488284

>>488269
Glorious blast to the past thank you nonna

No. 488285

>>488265
It doesn't even look that bara-esque. They look normal/average. Are you one of those "fujos" who self-insert and want to fuck the characters or something?

No. 488315

>>488285
NTA but Kuso Miso Technique is a bara manga, it was literally published in Barazoku.
However, pearl-clutching about a 2-decade-old imageboard meme is pathetic. Whoever that anon is, she definitely wasn't around when /y/ was not infested with gay moids and was full of actual yaoi 10+ years ago (that gif in particular was a classic in the /y/ yaoi humor threads). She probably believes no real woman has ever used any imageboard besides this one, even though LCF literally came from the 4/cgl/ community. Ignore newfag retards, don't even try to argue with them.

No. 488316

>>488315
I know it's Bara but it looks tame compared to regular Bara with the gigantic tits and furry shit if you know what I mean.

No. 488317

>>488316
I know what you mean, but it's probably because a lot of manga looked relatively normal back then regardless of genre. The grotesque, retarded-looking kind of bara we see today probably didn't exist back then. Similar to how anime girls look non-human these days but looked normal in the 80s.

No. 488321

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>>488285
Ntayrt, but man, I sometimes hate how rigid the body types fujos on here like. I enjoy bishounens and lean muscular ikemen, but sometimes I like them to look more manly. But posting something even slightly more masculine gets other nonnas to become very bitchy for some reason. So I usually lay low and don't lean too hard regarding the depiction of the other body types.

No. 488322

>>488315
I used to browse 4chan back when it still had /rs/ and I couldn't fucking care less about old memes because I'm not an autist that thinks encyclopedic meme knowledge is necessary for image board posting. It's so autistically scrotey to act like everyone needs to know every little detail about this shit. Go outside.

No. 488325

>>488315
Your meme sucks and you will never be cool, if you love /y/ so much go back there.(infighting)

No. 488326

>>488322
Still pathetic to pearl clutch over this even if you don't know the context of the meme. Don't get me wrong, I don't get that nonna's mindset of thinking lesser of someone for not knowing an older meme, but it's also annoying to immediately attack and complain about moids over seeing something you don't like/understand.

No. 488327

>>488326
I know what it is and it's stupid it was posted here. Stop shitting up the thread over a dumb meme, no wonder the discussion completely died with the thread opening with this.(infighting)

No. 488330

Are there any anime adaptions of BL worth watching? That is to say, BL that didn't originate as a manga/anime. Do they even exist…?

No. 488336

>>488330
…does Bravern and Yuri on Ice count?

No. 488338

>>488336
I think those are both anime originals. I'm trying to come up with something that was a successful yaoi/BL property before becoming an anime and am struggling to think of anything.

No. 488340

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>>488330
>Do they even exist?
The only non-manga anime adaptation I can think of is Ai no Kusabi, which came from a novel. There are various original BL ONAs that aren't on any databases, as well as Legend of the Blue Wolves, which is an original BL OVA. But those are originals, not adaptations of something else.

Speaking of the Ai no Kusabi novels, the official translations for it got so screwed over that fan scanlations picked up this project in spite of official licensing. Luckily, as of today, all the novels are scanlated and are available to read online. The official novels are so bad that they skipped over several novels-length worth of text (as in, hundreds of pages throughout) to condense it from the Japanese version. Yet, they completely erased important characters intros and vital story beats, so the English version doesn't make sense. So if you wanna read it, do so via fan translations.

No. 488342

>>488321
NTA but that's why I've been liking other imageboards lately. 3-4 years ago this wasn't a problem, nobody would whine about an anon posting male characters that aren't typical bishies, stuff that would get (incorrectly) labeled "bara", "fag taste" or "roidpig" nowadays.

No. 488343

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>>488338
I read wrong, I'm sorry.

No. 488344

>>488343
It's okay, nona. No big deal. It was more of a passing thought, anyways.

No. 488352

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>>488342
To be fair, sometimes the line of what constitutes as "bara" "fag taste" etc. can be blurry, like pic related has a pretty big fanbase of fujos, yet there's tons of guys that like this ship too. But as you stated, I swear that there wasn't as much complaining about it even if the lines were blurry. Women liked it, and we'll laugh at the men seething over our presence. But now? Can't even glance at something that looks slightly masculine and is tagged joseimuke before fujos here complain about their personal taste not being catered to. I wish it wasn't like that.

No. 488356

>>488352
>women complain about this
>women complain about that
maybe you should let fujoshi speak their own opinions and deal with the fact that not everyone has to agree with yours.

No. 488358

>>488356
Nta but nobody cares if you don't like something. Post something you like or shut up already.

No. 488362

>>488352
>sometimes the line of what constitutes as "bara" "fag taste" etc. can be blurry
That's true, but you can usually tell by the art style. When you know the sex of the person behind the fan art/fan fic, you know with 100% certainty whether the target audience is BL or bara. People who know this and who acknowledge these subtletlies don't act like they have a stick up their asses all the time. And Heaven forbid that women and gay men like the same thing sometimes. "Nooo I don't want to be associated with moids!" then that's your problem, you can't force other women to be as bitter and obsessed with moids as you are.

>>488356
Exactly! You should let others post what they like instead of complaining endlessly about how it makes you cringe. This is not your safe space where you get to be shielded from everything you don't personally like. Either tolerate it or shut up.

No. 488420

>>488340
nayrt
I didn't realize the official release missed that much text? Damn I wish someone would properly translate the original novel once and for all. Even with the English version being condensed like you said, the new revised version felt way too long and bloated and to me actually undermined the original novel which always seemed short and brutal but in a good way.

No. 488451

>>488420
The revised version had some stuff cut throughout, but it's by far the most noticeable in volumes 7 and 8. It's kind of insane how they got away with it with little backlash, but I guess not everyone knew. And yeah, I hope they'll be a proper official release of it in the future, but I don't count on it.

No. 488545

Gravitation is my comfort BL.

No. 488555

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>>488545
Its still my favourite BL after all these years. Suichi best boy. I love the incredibly hideous outdated 90s fashion, too.

No. 488717

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Such a pretty art style, I'm curious to see where the story goes.

No. 488784

>>488717
I'm assuming he's the bottom? The ahjussi to hyung glo-up is insane.

No. 488788

>>488545
>>488555
I still listen to the music constantly.

No. 488933

>>488545
I don’t even like it but I read the doujins for it yesterday

No. 489048

>>488555
>>488788
Still iconic decades later. I can't think of another series like it. Maybe Loveless?

No. 489091

>>489048
Loveless was the first BL for many tweens back then, and it also got an anime. So probably yeah. Ai no Kusabi was also very cool, I still go back to it.

No. 490068

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Does China have good taste or nah

No. 490080

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im simmering with anticipation waiting for the next chapter. just when i was starting to worry it might get boring for one second, shows what i kno.

>>490068
>still writing social network fanfic after all these years
im glad those gals have found their niche

No. 490082

>>490080
>im glad those gals have found their niche
Even the AO3 tag for the social network is entirely Chinese fics

No. 490101

>>490068
>Nezha/Ao Bing #15
Based Chinese fujos

No. 490109

>>490068
>Mark Zuckerberg yaoi placing at #83

KEK.

No. 490110

>>490068
I appreciate their ongoing production of Sleeping Dead fanart and fanfiction, seems like the series was decently received there

No. 490126

>>490068
>no hoyoshit
basado

No. 490127

>>490126
It's an old list, there is definitely hoyo shit if you found a more recent one.

No. 490173

>>488340
do you have a link to the novels? i never been able to read all of it

No. 490186

>>490068
I thought Joscarl would be higher. How old is this list?

No. 490230

>>490186
I think it’s from like 2020

No. 490294

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>>490186
I don't have a cross-fandom list but this is how many they had on lofter as of earlier this year if it matters. The formatting is awful for the full list and I don't want to fix it, you can look on reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/IdentityV/comments/1huu20a/50_most_popular_ships_on_lofter_and_total_posts/

No. 490316

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No. 490325

>>490316
MAPPA should change their name to judas

No. 490335

>>490316
Damn that's really unfortunate. They gotta release the uncensored version of Yarichin Bitch Club someday.

No. 490391

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(Reposting because my retarded ass didn't realise there's a new thread, lol)
Nonnas, I've recently renewed my interest in Inazuma Eleven, which I know is childish as fuck (I'm a massive nostalgiafag) but the characters are all so adorable and thus super easy to ship. It brings me joy. There are just moments though where I feel lonely, because most of the ships I like aren't super popular. Pic related.
Do you have moments like that too? In the fandoms you're in?

No. 490443

>>490316
The writing was on the wall. BL anime is already very niche and the series they choose to adapt do nothing to help in expanding their audience. Saezuru is not a feel-good series and been dragging its plot for 14 years, and Yarichin is just tremendously mid.

No. 490501

>>490443
Yarichin also only gets one volume every year/couple of years. It only has 6 volumes despite having been originally published in 2016.

No. 490553

>>490068
>Dazai/Chuuya so high up
I want to know what Bungou triggers inside fujo brains because I get that they're two cute guys with drama and angst but the story is just so… weird and kinda mid that I wouldn't expect it to have so many loyal fans.

No. 490729

>>490443
feels bad that Doukyuusei was like the only cool alt BL manga to get an anime and even then Asumiko Nakamura milked it as hard as she could since its subject matter was pretty cliche

No. 491051

>>490553
>it’s popular
>there’s not a lot of modern anime with cute guys, much less cute guys that angst and have mild fujobait
There’s a lot of normie fujos out there who don’t watch anything that isn’t anime so they just latch onto the first sort of fujobaity show they see.

No. 491120

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I just read the novel Walk in My Shoes is adapted from and phew, ladies.
Way darker and meaner than I expected even having seen spoilers. People compare it to Sadistic Beauty just because the manhwas share an artist, but the top in this one makes Wookyung look like a Care Bear. Extreme male degradation enthusiasts only. Can't wait to see some of it in a visual format, ngl.

No. 491131

>>491120
i read it yesterday to see how bad it would get read some spoilers that it had bestiality kek
what's your opinion on the ending?i found it boring

No. 491141

>>491120
Please tldr if you can nonny im so curious

No. 491208

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I'm reading Fangs and the author draws such good bodies. They're a bit too ripped for my personal taste but I appreciate how well she knows her anatomy and always gives them perfectly round butts. Her sex scenes are really well made.

No. 491292

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>>491131
I sense the bestiality is upcoming in the extra chapters. That's too far even for me tbh, turns out I can excuse uke abuse but I draw the line at animal abuse.
I also thought the ending was dull. The whole third act was a bit anticlimactic.
>>491141
The tldr is that it's basically just Juyeon getting revenge on Jiwook in various ways including orchestrating multiple extremely grueling gangrapes. Jiwook gets the absolute shit beaten out of him from start to finish. Ryona, piss, shit, vomit, it's all here. Author truly pulls no punches when it comes to making this guy suffer. There's really no romance between the two MCs and it ends on a fairly bleak note.
It wasn't anything spectacular as a novel imo, might as well stick with the manhwa. The artist draws the cutest miserable/crying faces and there will be a million of 'em, lol.

No. 491294

>>491051
I thought most fujos were weebs by default? What would a fujo get out of watching a show starring walled 3dpd scrotes?

No. 491302

>>491294
Google superwholock, God i feel old.

No. 491303

>>491292
>animal abuse
Did you mean that Jiwook was forced to fuck a dog? When I read spoilers about bestiality I kept assuming it was the other way around kek
In any case the revenge plot sounds overdrawn and one-note. Will just drop it and read other stuff instead. NAYRT but thank you for the summary anyway!

No. 491306

>>491303
Nta but nonnie it's still animal abuse either way lmao

No. 491307

>>491306
Lol I know what you mean but I'm applying yaoi logic here not IRL ethics, one kink is more palatable to me than the other.

No. 491310

>>491307
Anon….beastiality is a crime not a kink…

No. 491312

>>491292
if the lord hears my prayers there will be no piss, scat or what >>491303 is worried about

No. 491314

>>491310
This is terrible news to me. I hope you won't be telling me that rape is criminal too.

No. 491316

>>491314
Go talk about dogfucking on a dogfucking forum.

No. 491318

>>491302
Yes. I'm aware, I thought it was retarded. I was into Hetalia and Free during that era anyway.

No. 491319

>>491316
nta but we are actively discussing a manhwa keep up

No. 491321

>>491307
It's probably meant the way you're thinking about.

No. 491329

>>491292
>spoilers
Chapters can't come in faster. I'll wait eagerly for the meal.

No. 491333

>>491302
nta I always thought female fans of m/m from western media were called "slashers" because they ship slash, read slashfic and create slash, where as fujos were specifically weebs by default because they ship yaoi, read yaoi and create yaoi. Imo slash fangirls calling themselves fujos is an appropriation kek.

No. 491335

>>491333
the word slash/slashers just fell off, everyone just calls them fujoshi now. i don't think its so much appropriation and more just words falling out of usage, it's not common for people to be one or the other anymore either.

No. 491336

>>491333
If we're talking fujo appropriation, there's more things to call out about kek.

No. 491337

>>491333
What would you call an japanese woman who’s into beatles shipping? The distinction is not as deep as people make it out to be. Obviously cultural differences influence western and eastern gay ships but its really not so far removed to be completely separate categories.

No. 491339

>>491333
when you grow up shipping dudes from battle shounen whats the difference? it seems arbitrary to need a distinction between someone who ships kirk/spock and someone who ships sasunaru. the overalp is almost a complete circle

No. 491344

>>490443
>Saezuru
I'm fucking tired of Yoneda Kou, her awful pacing, her awful release times, and everyone who shills her. I used to like her work until she dropped that based uncle-cop/high school nephew title in favor that Slowzuru. That's when I opened my eyes to how samey and slooooow everything is (except the incest one). Coward.

No. 491397

>>491292
Uke abuse is based but I am still curious - what exactly did he do to Juyeon deserve all this?

No. 491402

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>>491337
>What would you call an japanese woman who’s into beatles shipping?
My Queen

No. 491403

>>491397
Nta but, I heard he raped the seme at some point in the past and then forgot about it. Also, I'm currently reading the novel and apparently he also raped the younger brother of a past hs rival so I guess he was a repressed gay man that used to pray on and rape younger cute guys. He deserves it all + the ryona is delicious

This shit is so good, gosh I miss Sadistic Beauty side M, sucks how like 80% of the comments in the novel reading page are a bunch of underage girls being preachy about how enjoyin and finding abuse hot is bad. Like bitch, go to a church and not a porn reading site.

No. 491404

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>>491120
>extreme male degradation
>same artist as Sadistic Beauty
>'makes Wookyung look like a Care Bear'
I'm so hyped.
>>491131
>>491292
>bestiality
>piss and scat
God fucking dammit.

No. 491499

>>491292
All that stayed with me was piss.
What kind if I may ask.

No. 491580

>>488223
>>488257
>>488269
I love these parodies.

No. 491586


No. 491608

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>>491292
Fine I'll read it too.

No. 491624

>>491404
Eh, that anon was exagerating.
The piss and other stuff were not for the porn factot, more of an way to further humiliate the uke.
He doesn't drink or eat them or any stuff like that is more like standard mob gang rape humiliation + pooping on a pet mat because his room has no bathroom

I found the novel fun to run, if you are into suffering ukes, that deserve the suffering for being bad people, you'll enjoy it. Also, the mind break is fun to read in his inner monologues.

No. 491646

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>>491397
Basically Jiwook was a delinquent and all-around piece of shit as a young teen. Juyeon had a crush on him and accidentally let it slip, leading to the homophobic Jiwook sexually abusing him repeatedly and filming it. When Juyeon's mother discovers what's been going on, she has a psychotic break and has to be institutionalized. iirc it's also implied that Jiwook has done this to multiple girls as well. So yeah, you won't be pitying him and Juyeon's vengeance is gigabased.
>>491404
fwiw I have an inkling that those things may not make it into the manhwa adaptation!

No. 491652

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so is the only place to read on novelupdates? the page makes it look like the novel is in korean, i just want to make sure there is some English translation before i make an account.

No. 491656

>>491652
You can read it here https://lilyonthevalley.com/story/empathy/
Main story is tl'd but bonus chapters are still in progress.

No. 491803

>>491646
Iirc someone explained that he didn't do that to women too and it was lost to translation but I'd really like to know bc all the more reasons for him to suffer.

No. 491849

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>>491120
>the top in this one makes Wookyung look like a Care Bear.
Worse you say?

No. 491851

>>491652
I read it on mto.to

No. 491874

>>491333
I think it was more others not knowing the term for slash and just using "fujoshi" for every girl who ships m/m. Also many slashers are also fujos, which perhaps contributed to the confusion.

No. 491886

Today I remembered Kuroko no Basukue.



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