>>7039>also the sad reality is that without actual military support this uprising will failThat's the unspoken part of this mythology and the most blackpilling point for me, that all of this is actually wanted (where it exists),
allowed by the moids.
To clarify, there are two very distinct topics being discussed here.
The first is separatism
>>14537. It is achievable and already exists without the moids in power having directly created it. They tacitly allow it, probably don't care, and I can't see these groups disappearing anytime soon unless they were to be presented as "deviant sects". For me, this is the healthiest, most accessible and achievable way and the one that allows a total separation, even if it could be subject to troonish infiltration attempts.
The second is the gain of influence in the moid society
>>6681 , the access to positions of responsibility, the taking of power in the current system. It seems illusory to me. Generally, for a fundamental social change to occur, there has to be an insurrection, or even a revolution. There have been militant women, even feminist fighters, but nothing analogous. All that was allowed and phagocytized by the moids, at least some moids, the wealthy and powerful ones, obviously. However, the internet has really allowed for the emergence of real mass alternative currents created organically, and this is a note of hope. Too bad it can't exist in a country like Iran that has tight control over its intranet.
But until women have the physical, or at least material (guns), capacity to lead an insurgency, this is all mostly wishful thinking. Even if it seems to be materializing in reality, all this is actually very precarious. To take an extreme case, see Afghanistan. I know it's not quite comparable because religion is much more important there, including for women, but the way everything turned around in just a few days blew my mind. Nothing is ever immutable and the greatest empires have collapsed, but our foundations depend entirely on their goodwill, or rather their interests.