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No. 38891

A thread to talk about your relationship with your mother. Letting go your feelings about her. Things you would wanted her to understand. Vent, grief, share…

No. 38892

I feel like the more my mother socializes and talks with other women the more desensensitized she becomes with me. Our relationship becomes less tender. It make me feel worthless and sometimes i feel suicidal about it. Because I crave for mother love, and I'm seeking that from other older women. Just in case if mother doesnt love me anymore. I think she hates me in deep dowm, I feel like a burden to her. And if she learn my true self, my true feelings about myself and world around me… I have no idea. I love-hate her, sometimes I don't care about her sometimes I can't sleep from thinking my place will be replaced by other women. No women will take her place so I don't see any point in dating or making friends. I feel insecure

No. 38895

She is the best.

No. 38902

She was a terrible mother, but now that I'm an adult she's a good friend.
I can see now that she was desperately trying to keep her own head above water when I was young, and wasn't in a position to provide the support I needed. Now she's got less stress in her life, I'm capable of looking after myself and don't need as much from her, we get along well.
I always thought my brother was her favourite but it was just that his flaws aligned better with hers than mine did, if that makes sense. She had so many things to worry about at any given time that she forgot about us a lot. Promises she had made, things we needed for school, etc. My brother was impatient and would nag her over and over which served to remind her so he usually did get what he needed. I patiently held my tongue and waited for her to remember on her own, which she never did. If I had been better at advocating for myself it would have made a huge difference.
I've made my peace with the difficulties we had with each other in my youth, and while I will try to learn from them and do a better job with my own children, I don't hold them against her.

No. 39319

I feel guilty for wishing she did more to protect me as a child. She was stuck in this split between being a total doormat pickme for my dad but also genuinely caring for me and shielding me from his abuse. And no the former wasn't just a mask, she still goes out of her way to defend his opinions these days.

No. 39529

>>38891
i don't to talk to her. she was an abusive alkie when i was a kid, and it only continued into my 20s (i cut her off around 25). i told her i would talk again if she goes to rehab. she still hasn't. i want to make space for her, but it must be reciprocal. her eldest sister says she trembles after a few days of not drinking. i find it tremendously sad, to be honest. why does she need alcohol more than she needs a viable relationship with me? maybe she will die without me ever knowing. whenever she reaches out it feels like a trap. i've suspected more recently that she never wanted to be a mom. a few times she told me her relationship with my dad was my fault for being born and maybe it was like that back then. i won't pretend women's rights have been going well, and there's probably a lot unrecorded because men don't give a shit about the hell they inflict on women and make great efforts to conceal this, well… sometimes.

for my own sanity, i really cannot put myself in a situation where she can threaten suicide or lash out at me physically for emotional leverage if she refuses to do any work towards, succinctly, not doing that kind of thing. i gave it a good 15 years (from 12) or so. nowadays i find peace over our deteriorated relationship in my grandmothers, my aunts, my friends, and women in the knitting circle, silly though it may sound. i learned a lot from her, just not necessarily positive lessons (a bad example is still a lesson). mother's day is always a little weird emotionally for me, but i usually just gift things to the other wonderful mothers in my life. this year i did shareable plants (or, plants that propagate well) in little pots that were evocative of the women i gifted them to (pottery sets/styles they like, shells, etc).

No. 40669

I'm really curious about the relationships with their moms other anons here have
For me I have lifelong chronic health conditions due to the terrible abuse and neglect. Many times I still curse that I was ever born. Why do we live? Is it just to suffer? I cut her off and moved out several years ago, and my life has flourished more pretending I'm an orphan than when I was under their roof. Its foreign to me when people miss their moms or need them for comfort. Whenever I was going for surgery or near death, I just pictured Jesus, God or Buddha welcoming me home. I never considered my mom.

Lately I've been forgiving her because even if this life sucks in a lot of ways, I'm still here and I might as well make the most of it - plus, as a mature adult I can't just hold a grudge and blame my parents forever. I actually think I'm better than a lot of people now. Financially and professionally accomplished in spite of lack of support and physical health. I am doing very well in many areas that others with a lot more than me struggle with. And I have pretty healthy and nurturing relationships, because I have spent years being my own mom and never being allowed to act out or think anyone is coming to save me. I see lots of people who have close relationships with their families just act like assholes or are mental cases but they might call ME a doormat.

Well, I just wanted to say, it's hard to blame my mom. I am grateful for how my life has turned out. And even if I cut her off, I realized, she let me go. She didn't stalk me or try to kill me (yes the bar is that low) and third, I've been able to handle people because she prepared me for the worst and the neglect taught me that everything is earned and nothing should be taken for granted. These lessons have served me pretty well. Aside from the literal crippling health issues, the fear and trauma lead me to becoming pretty successful and well adjusted. So I don't know what to say about my mom. She's just another human being on this planet.

No. 40671

>>40669
Typical normie who thinks suffering and pain makes her stronger when it's the opposite.

No. 40672

>>40669
I thought this was written by chatgpt for a moment

No. 40680

I miss her so incredibly much, but I know how it goes when I unblock her. In her mind everything is a competition between her and me and she has to win by humiliating me. I'd give everything to see her again but I'd also give everything to never have to see the way she looks at me again. It feels like endless torment because she's just one phone call away, but I've done that before and I'm never doing that again.

No. 40682

>>40669
I'm sorry the responses were so bad to you. I know how you feel though, it feels a lot better to not be mad or disappointed anymore, and lets you really appreciate the peace of a good life without the ongoing need to seek attention or conflict or drama.

No. 40683

>>40682
Kek you sound even dumber than her

No. 40691

I certainly have some critical feelings towards my mother and they've only developed further with age. She's so hopelessly passive, yet emotionally reactive (when interacting with her children) and afraid. It's gotten to the point where I'm having to parent her as an adult when she gets wound up over trivial things or situations that couldn't be entirely anticipated and controlled. I understand to some extent why she made the same low-self esteem choices in tolerating and continuing relationships with terrible men throughout her life, just wish she hadn't decided to stick with the one that brought me about. Nothing was ever horrendously violent or dangerous, but my childhood was so unnecessarily dysfunctional and stressful in this odd, simmering atmosphere regardless.

No. 40764

I see her as a leech. I may be the leech technically but from my perspective she's just a leech. I have no genunie feelings for her just guilt and responsibility. I would probably only take care of her because I have to not because I love her or care about her deep inside. And I feel like a slave of emotions, emotions has always been a big price tag to me. I would like to leave but I feel guilty. Everything feels so meaningless, I can't even have a free space in my mind that's belong to me. I hate this world, I hate to be exist

No. 40774

I wrote more but it's too much. In short, the relationship I have with my mom would be a field day for Freud.

I am basically a second husband to her, bc I get to do the understanding and tolerating and comforting and domestic labour while my dad sits like a husk in his arm chair doing fuck all but he makes my mom laugh and is sometimes nice to her.

If I ask her about her day she tells me it was ok, if dad does she starts letting out the juiciest piece of gossip. She does this yet I don't remember beating her or myself like dad does.

No. 40780

>>38895
My mom is a angel and the best too!



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