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I feel like azealia banks is a crypto terf, actually no, just full out terf kek and i love her for that. And i believe the conspiracy that azealia is a farmer
>>11645>(fake woke excuse) I don't really like labels and I'm not sure what gender I am or if I'm like agender or something so I don't feel comfortable putting anything solid down
Another fake-woke argument I've read for not having pronouns in bio is that they're actually problematic
, because some people might be closeted or just because someone has a certain identity doesn't mean they inherently use certain pronouns. I kind of like saying that I'm "any pronouns" (except "it" or something made up) while only calling myself a woman, just to kind of show that's meaningless, and I don't care about "misgendering". Why should I care if someone calls me a "he" when I'm clearly a woman and look like one, lmao.
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good thread idea anon.
i've been playing ignorant with some people, and just asking basic questions as if i know nothing about the gender debate. which always results in the other person saying something along the lines of "yeah… I know it doesn't really make much sense but… I dunno" or "I know what you mean… but…umm"
you can tell a lot of people just don't want to think about the logic or reality and want to be kind and it's fun to watching them expose how fickle their support actually is, just by asking innocent dumb questions about gender.
in the end they sympathise with my confusion because they know they can't explain it. i don't know if this will make them re-evaluate their stance though, that is yet to be seen.
>>11749>i've been playing ignorant with some people, and just asking basic questions as if i know nothing about the gender debate
Seconding this strategy, it works to protect yourself and you can get away with being a tiny bit "terfy and ignorant". I think it works best with 1 or 2 basic questions before you change the topic as if you're not really that interested.>>11750
What do you need to do to not be blacklisted? I'm fairy certain I'm blacklisted in a few spaces based only on not having pronouns in bio kek these people can't handle anyone having a different opinion than themselves>>11753
nta but I think saying things that a normie would think but that are now seen as evil and bigoted can work. Like saying "trans people are men/women who feel like they were born in the wrong body and like they should have been born as a man/woman instead right"? "i don't really understand non-binary, how is it trans if you're not transitioning at all", "wait but boys can like pink and barbies too, that doesn't mean it's a sign a boy is trans, right? it's so sexist to say that being a girl means you like pink and barbie". "Only transwomen who had the vagina operation go into female changing rooms right? no real woman even if trans would want to expose little girls changing there to dicks, that would be so creepy and gross"
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not really a radfem anymore but definitely crypto (as in I believe in reality). Nice thread anon. I want to ask nonnies in here: is it possible to be friends with gendies while being a crypto?
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I'm the collector of TIF friends somehow.
Best friend is a TIF. Not a weird fujo but one of the butch lesbian "trutrans" variety that trooned out because she couldn't handle the expectations from her hyper conservative korean family who wanted her to get married to a nice korean man and have 3 children by age 22. I love her to death but I know the second I bring up GC shit, that's the end of our friendship right there. She already called all the JK Rowling stuff "terf dogwhistling" and I asked her if she read it and she said no, fucking lmao. She was the one who could benefit from reading it the most.
Then one of my writing buddies online also trooned, got top surgery and everything. When I met her she was just a cool lesbian living with her partner and then in less than a year she got gender therapy and cut off her tits. It's a good thing she did that because that instantly killed all of my desire to be her friend.
It makes me incredibly sad tbh, I feel like everytime I gain a cool GNC girlfriend, I lose her to troon shit. I'm only crypto to the bestie though, everyone else knows I'm GC. Luckily our friendships don't overlap. I do feel that inevitably she will figure it out and it will instantly implode our friendship of 10+ years. Just waiting for that moment, tbh.
the culling of cool GNC lesbians is real and makes me very sad. one of my best friends i've had since childhood has always had body dysphoria and hated having breasts etc. since puberty - this was long before the gender shit was a thing. for a long while she was starting to work through it, after she came out and got into feminism and learned that performative femininity was bullshit and there was a reason puberty made her uncomfortable etc. but now she has been given this new
shiny explanation for all her experiences as a woman not fitting right and think she is just getting sucked in. plus she equates trans and non binary people with "being gender non-conforming" which is especially annoying. I've tried subtly questioning her and saying "but aren't those things the opposite?" but felt like i reached a limit before i would have to go full terf
-mode and definitely don't want to lose her friendship. i will put up a huge fight if she starts taking hormones or considering surgery though.
>>11771>I genuinely believe you are all contributing to this madness and for what? To avoid a brief potentially awkward encounter?
To avoid losing our jobs nona. They have proven to harass workplaces and family members of complete nobodies for speaking up online. I can't speak against it but I can completely ignore it and not give it attention. I can only talk freely with people in person, which I do so they know exactly how deranged these people are.>>11774
Yes, but any time they bring up gender stuff it's annoying as all hell, but they can peak. I've had woke friends who are now peaked terfs.
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Pretty sure Lauren Mayberry is crypto. Prominent feminist, speaks out and posts about lots of social issues but completely silent on trannies and gender shit. A few years ago she was harassed and receiving death/rape threats for speaking out against Chris Brown, so I can definitely understand wanting to just live in peace these days without stirring the pot. I have a good feeling about her and really hope I’m not wrong.
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sorry to disappoint
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I have a feeling Diane Morgan (Philomena Cunk) might be crypto terf or at least GC. She is connected to Ricky Gervais and Charlie Brooker - him and his wife are quietly GC - and just seems intolerant to bullshit and nonsense.
my wish for 2023 is that at least one cool well known famous person will be revealed to be gc or openly peak. if you could pick anyone anons who would it be?>>11774
yes you can definitely have gendie and handmaiden friends as a crypto but i think it's wise to keep in mind that not everyone will be open to being peaked or peakable at all. some will be open to it depending on the issue being discussed and their own personal experiences but some just won't allow themselves to open up to the "wrong" way of thinking and risk getting weird and aggressive.
>>11897>I also really don't like how right-wing men tend to hijack threads made by terfs to propel their own bullshit
whenever i see a terfy hashtag trending now, it's always overtaken by right wing moids (nearly always matt walsh) that are just piggybacking off of feminist arguments, that in reality they don't give a shit about but are just using one aspect of an argument to push their anti-LGBT or whatever.
it reminds me of how Tommy Robinson made the grooming gang story a right-wing issue by piggy-backing off of feminists who first raised the alarm for girl's safety, and then he distorted it into an anti-muslim thing. all the women's hard work in uncovering and trying to protect those girls was now undermined by Tommy foaming at the mouth about immigrants. this kind of shit is always happening.
I always get a laugh out of how anime fanfic groups are true female-only spaces even though half the people there claim to be male or genderless
It does make me sad to see women in their late 20s and 30s buying into it though. Like sis please your brain is fully developed, I know our hobby is immature and cringe but you're better than this.
i'm wondering this too. i have such a hard time speaking to people that are so ideologically different from me. >how do you deal with it irl
normally, but i don't have to make friends with my boss or coworkers obviously. in my hobby spaces though…i would like to make friends and talk more but their minds are so far from mine it's annoying. how do they cape so hard for an ideology that can be blasted apart with simple questions like,
>what's a woman/man?>what's it mean to "feel" a gender?>what is a gender?
radtwt and overlapping groups are alright, tbh it's kind of degraded over the years from a larger community to multiple smaller kinds of groups. there's women of all ethnicities and backgrounds there if you want to connect with other woc
who discuss feminist issues in general and not only trans shit.
This sounds very interesting, I hope you're able to find the posts. If you remember any exact phrases you can put them in double quotes "like this" using the search function.>>12052
The problem with that is that I don't think there's any online pay method other than crypto that keeps your real name/address completely hidden from others if you want to take commissions.