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How do I stop being obsessed with women? I hate women and lesbians so no I'm not an one. But I'm also obsessed in an embarrassing way with women. I wouldn't date with them for myriad of reasons. Yet I still like to cuddle with my pillow and imagine I'm with a woman. This effecting my daily life. I think about women all day like when I'm doing something, I still think about my imaginary wife or something. I try to supress it but it even becomes stronger. It's not sexual, it's more like a limerance I had in past became part of me. I have codependent tendencies, am vulnerable and sensitive. I'm so sick of being like this, I want to learn to decenter women. But how? I couldn't find anything about this on the internet

shit thread

I used to be a radfem, mainly because I hate trannies infiltrating female spaces, but what really made me hate radfems almost as much as troons is the way that radfems constantly try to equate anything that they personally disapprove of with rape. As someone who has been a victim of actual rape, it's just incredibly insulting. No, sorry, but my brutal rape is not even remotely the equivalent of someone selling foot pictures on OnlyFans.

Here, for example, is a popular thread on Ovarit where radfems unironically argue that Lily Phillips choosing to have sex with a hundred men is worse than Gisele Pelicot being raped by dozens of men because Lily Phillips chose to do it: https://ovarit.com/o/WomensLiberation/632788/a-message-to-male-lurkers-regarding-lily-phillips

Yes, a woman like Lily Phillips choosing to have sex with multiple men is TOTALLY the same as a woman like Gisele Pelicot being raped by multiple men. In fact, it's even worse BECAUSE she chose to do it!

Nobody trivializes rape and insults actual rape victims more than radfems do.

>>37672
Ill agree what happened with Lily is not the same as the years long nightmare that Gisele went through because of what her monster of a husband did to her. However, to say Lily was completely informed in her consent is also inaccurate.

Lily did not get those men properly tested for diseases. She didn't even know you could get stds via oral. Her ignorance is something akin to a child's. The fact that her parents enabled and helped organize the 100 guy challenge is messed up in its own right. But its not as blatantly, open and shut evil as what Gisele went through.

Im sorry you got raped. In a perfect world we would have publicly executed any man convicted of sexual assault long before you were born.
In an ideal world we wouldn't have stories like Gisele OR Lily.

Observing radfem behavior on this very site is what alienated me. Radfems will cry about "pornsick moids" one minute and post yaoi shotacon the next minute. They'll claim that they want to exterminate all men and cheer male suicide rates, yet they'll focus all of their energy on nitpicking, harassing, and tearing apart other women, even wishing rape on other women for not feministing right. The rhetoric that I see from radfems on here (and other sites filled with radfems) is even nastier than the rhetoric that I see from male incels. Radfems are a fucking joke. They are nothing but bitter, miserable femcels. The best description of them I've seen is from a Crystal Cafe thread about Ovarit: https://archive.is/8yDrx

>I remember when they were on spinster and planning on making it. Tbh spinster had basically the same problem, you have these main pearl clutching terminally online losers who are obsesed with controlling everything bc their lives are a mess. Another spinster orbiting site was cliterati.club which was also basically exactly the same except the authoritarian woman running it was some 28 yr NEET with a xan addiction, so at least you could laugh at her. You can't laugh at these 50 year old tinpot tyrants, they're not even good as lolcows

>>37667
I hate to break this to you nonnita but you sound like a lesbian

radfems aren't unique in this, this has been my experience with a lot of far-left wing movements. when you lose support to actually effect politics on both a major and community level, all you're left with is a political group for incredibly dysfunctional people, nine women taking about fantasies about how they'll take over the world isn't healthy or going to accomplish anything.

>>37682
Left wing politics are pathetic today, unironically the ones who have been doing the most for us have been far right women pushing for laws that actually help us, and that's embarrassing

Radfems are more puritanical than fucking Mormons. They have a psychotic, obsessive aversion to any and all sexuality. The final tipping point for me was seeing them argue that all heterosexual sex is rape.

I hate how radfems speak for all women only to demonize women with autism and adhd, SSA women, and really any women who's choices aren't aligned with their own. I won't deny society's effects on women, but assuming lesbians are male brained for liking is a very interesting take in a age where women's rights are being stripped away for dressing pants on texan grounds. They caused this but act like you're a troon lover for pointing it out.

>>37691
Radfems are always up in any women that is not separatists business, not a new thing, they also go after any women that is sexual in any way, straight or gay because it's "reee like le scrote behaviour!".

My issue with feminism is that it seems to be a distraction for what the actual problem is and just another way for scrotes and women to generate $$$
Radfeminism is the psychotic version of feminism, I stand with some points and sometimes not like:
>>37673
>did not know she could get STDS via oral
Can you please not believe that lying whore? She’s literally lying about not knowing HIV is an STD. I secretly wish she gave the men HIV instead. Yikes.

>>37692
I'm not a ratfem and I think all women who willingly have sex with moids are whores. And for me it's actually the opposite; ratfems are the ones who often turn out to be the biggest cock suckers of all (or they want to be them) and they hide their nigels and when people find out they have nigels they claim their nigels are different than other men. Most ratfems still want to be in relationships with men

>>37713
Actually most lesbians have HPV or some sorts. You’re telling me that celibate femcels are the only pure ones? But lesbians don’t find them pretty, they’re femcel for a reason. It’s gonna be a rough world. Ok I hate men too but to say all women are whores if they want to have sex with men just because they don’t wanna be lgbt is kind of unfair. Some just believe in adam and eve instead of adam and steve. Or Eve and Stacy.

>>37707
In theory Lily could be a bugspreader…

>>37718
>Ok I hate men too but to say all women are whores if they want to have sex with men just because they don’t wanna be lgbt is kind of unfair
Why are you adding your own words to something that I said kek
I said if they HAVE sex, not if they want to have it. I can totally get having sexual desires, but having them and acting on them are two different cases. I can be attracted to someone's body but acknowledging they're evil by nature and therefore I won't be fucking them. And what's about the lgbt part? Where did I mention ldbt? You can't "become" lgbt, I don't believe in political lesbianism, you're either gay or not. I'm not a lesbian myself. I'm bisexual and I never fucked men and it was by my own choice.

>>37718
Gold star lesbians are unfortunately rare so no wonder most "lesbians" have HPV

>>37718
Because most self-identified 'lesbians' are actually bisexual. I'd guess very few goldstar lesbians have HPV.

Radfems believe that men are evil and that women are perfect little angels who can do no wrong.

I believe that men and women are both evil.

>>37750
Oh I agree both men and women are evil and both are capable of heinous shit.
But I also think men commit the lions share of evil deeds. Also sometimes it feels like when women do fucked up shit they are actively groomed into doing it whereas men are more likely to do horrible shit independent of influence.
Like think about the femcel shooter and her gang of nazi edge lord groomers (and of course the retard dad who gave her the gun). Without those men in her life there would be no way she would have shot up the school.

I'm not saying there aren't completely and independently evil women. But they are the exception and not the rule.

>>37750
What do you think of Riley Williams?
https://www.witf.org/2024/03/05/riley-williams-convicted-of-storming-nancy-pelosis-office-on-jan-6-asks-for-shorter-sentence/

>>37736
Gold Star bisexuals are a thing then?

>>37750

This. As a child, I was viciously tormented by other girls (mainly because I'm autistic and albino). When I was 11, a group of girls held me down and raped me with a broomstick. When I brought this up to radfems, they told me that it wasn't rape because women can't rape. Yet these are the same people who say that all heterosexual sex is rape. Fuck radfems.

>>37777
Well that's obviously terrible but I don't get how it's has anything to do with radfems or women being evil. Like I know what women are and what they're capable of but I still don't want to share same planet with men

>>37778

>I don't get how it's has anything to do with radfems or women being evil

did you even read her post? are you literally retarded?

>>37778
omg, you’re a monster.

Every single time I've posted anything that a radfem didn't like, I've been accused of being a moid/tranny. Radfems really are delusional enough to think that they speak for all women and that the only people who can't stand them are troons. Even troons are more tolerable than radfems.

>>37678

>Radfems will cry about "pornsick moids" one minute and post yaoi shotacon the next minute.

Many radfems are actual pedophiles. Germaine Greer is a perfect example. Greer is a known pedophile. Germaine Greer published a book that was just pictures of prepubescent boys: https://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/books/im-not-germaines-toy-says-cover-boy-20031018-gdhlyf.html

>Andresen, who shot to fame as a 15-year-old in 1970 when he appeared as Tadzio in Luchino Visconti's film Death in Venice, was furious Greer used a photo of him taken on the set by David Bailey.

>"Adult love for adolescents is something I am against in principle," Andresen told Britain's The Guardian newspaper. source

Greer writes: https://web.archive.org/web/20120118164400/http://www.abc.net.au/tv/enoughrope/transcripts/s946782.htm

>Finishing the current book is more difficult than it should be, because I just can't let it go. Working on it has been the best fun in the world, because it is a book of pictures of ravishing boys. Ravishing pictures of ravishing boys. I know that the only people who are supposed to like looking at pictures of boys are a sub-group of gay men.

>Well, I'd like to reclaim for women the right to appreciate the short-lived beauty of boys, real boys, not simpering 30 year-olds with shaved chests. The real snag is that everywhere I turn I find new pictures of absolutely outrageously lovely boys, and it's too late to get them into the book. But I keep downloading them, scanning them and printing them, just in case, and just for fun. source

>A woman of taste is a pederast — boys rather than men. source

In an article in the Sunday Times titled "Pretty boys get Greer excited":

>"This book is going to get me into a lot of trouble," said Greer. "I'll be called a paedophile after this."

>Greer, who first shot to fame with her feminist tract The Female Eunuch more than 30 years ago, defiantly sets out to counter the argument that "everyone thinks the only people who like looking at young boys are gay men". "That's not true," said Greer. "I, for one, love looking at them."

>The twists and turns of the feminist icon's pronouncements have shed many of her followers over the years, but her interest in young boys may prove the last straw.

>Miranda Devine, Australia's best-known female columnist, commented: "Once you get over the hypocrisy of the godmother of 1970s feminism salivating over boys as sex objects, you are left with the fact that in promoting this book Greer is using the language of paedophiles."

>Greer, who two years ago suggested that Tony Blair "stay off" Cherie when she became pregnant at 47, cites the sort of young man who really excites her. "It's the billboard advertisement of a truly lovely bare-chested boy, sitting legs apart and arm stretched along the back of a sofa with the flies of his jeans unzipped just far enough to reveal the designer name woven into the waistband of his underpants."

>The book will point out how the beauty of the young boy has been admired from ancient Greece through to the Renaissance artist Caravaggio. In the 20th century the young male body once again became an object of beauty and sometimes desire — whether in the shape of the dancer Nijinsky or the actor James Dean.

>>37804
I don't think she's a pedo, just trying to troll males and turn it back onto them. But I guess it didn't work

>>37803
The average scrote is more tolerable than a radfem

>>37848
Not sure I agree with that one. I've definitely dealt with some insufferable radfems who gatekeep how women should live their lives but I still would rather deal with her than most men

>>37804
Greer's point in that book is comprehensible but it is kind of cringe (correcting the imbalance by going after boys…okay). I think this book reflects her position in the 2nd wave. She has a very different angle from say, Dworkin, she's more brash and less about trauma, plus she's from a country (Australia) where 1st wave feminism didn't really happen. Australians are massive degens (kind of like south koreans and other countries that rapidly moved from backwards traditionalism to full-fledged porn-infused cultures). So it's not surprising she's like that in comparison to american or euro 2nd wave radfems, who spent more time thinking about sexual ethics. Her difference is what makes her works so interesting imo. And she often uses 'boy' for adult young men, she's always been a little edgy.
>Many radfems are actual pedophiles
Citation needed

>Speaking at the Hay Festival on Wednesday, Greer said some rape cases should be considered as "non-consensual… bad sex" rather than "spectacularly violent crime" as most "don't involve any injury whatsoever
I don't see what's wrong with this. She's right

I recently attended my first gender critical feminist meeting irl. This experience alone has peaked me on radical feminism.

I just want anti-troon friends, Nona

I can't into radfem politics because they alienate women who don't fit their mold. Some of us want to live our life a certain way and being preached at about how the choices we actively make are secretly men controlling us is just fucking annoying. And they do this about dumb shit like the clothes you wear too.

>>37888

That part. I hate troonism, I hate the porn industry, but I don't think those things are the biggest threats to women. I think I might come back to one or two more meetings to find the normie-adjacent terfs before leaving.

>>37887
Damn, what happened there?

>>37891

Nothing terrible. The energy in the room was just kinda off. You could tell that a many of these women are terminally online and have no political thought outside of internet radfem frameworks. Someone went on a rant about how white women were being attacked on ovarit for having opinions and I couldn't have rolled my eyes any harder.

I plan on trying out a SSA women's group soon. Hopefully that goes a bit better.

The current radfem/GC revival just led to a bunch of conservative women dickriding Trump and Matt Walsh because "at least they know what a woman is!". Which seems to be a feature of radical feminism, not a bug. Original radfems split over the "porn wars" and a bunch of them became single-issue about porn and decided to work with Republicans to ban it.

Spoiler alert: It clearly did not work! In fact ironically probably made porn worse, Reaganomics are why corporations (PornHub and other tech companies) were powerful enough to lobby governments and push pro-porn propaganda all over social media the past decade. They fixate on one issue and refuse to look at a bigger picture. The USA might be turning into trad pro-life shithole but hey at least troons are banned now! (until the Republicans remember that banning troons loses money for all their Big Pharma donors and lobbyists. seriously I would bet money on this. puberty blockers, HRT, cosmetic surgery, are all too profitable to ban forever. they're just gonna get rebranded into something "not woke".).

Also as others have said all they do is preach "solidarity" while nitpicking and obsessively policing other women. Again, missing the forest for the trees. Some Mormon with a MAGA Nigel and 5 sons will henpeck a normie woman to death for idk wearing a low-cut top. Who fucking cares about cleavage you are raising 5 sons in one of the most aggressively patriarchal belief systems on earth.

I don't even hate radical feminism. I think a lot of the literature is worth reading. But there seems to be a pattern of it morphing into retarded, pointless female populism. Ban abortion to pwn the troons, great idea. I'm not pro-porn or pro-troon btw I just think it's easier to bring normie libs around to our side than it is to remove all the misogynistic bullshit from the Christian right.

>>37893

And don't forget about the pollilez bullshit

>>37893

I will never understand how supposed radical feminists can align themselves with Christian right-wingers. To put owning troons above abortion and contraceptive rights is unforgivable in my opinion. You're spot on with your assessment, Nonnie

>>37895
They are desperate because feminism at its core is politically orphaned. The feminists who think conservatives will save them are absolutely retarded. I understand democrats also suck but at the very least it feels like they are slightly more open to anti trust laws and not moralfagging so hard that women die from miscarriages.
any woman that cucks herself into believing the shit conservatives say is less of a radfem and more of a pickme.
Also them thinking Trump, the guy who fucked a porn star while his mail order bride took care of their autistic son, would EVER ban porn, is especially laughable.

>>37892
don't know if I would dismiss radical feminism outright just because I got bad energy from a room of women.

Like all authoritarian movements based entirely on identity politics, radfems spend far more time attacking each other than they do attacking the people that they claim to hate (in this case, men).