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Join us for the ongoing saga of 41-year-old horrorcow Raven (née Diana) Dawn Sparks and her 31-year-old future husband #5 Josh Bradley in their barren Love That Was More Than Love Shack mobile home in rural Saluda, South Carolina.
Raven originally achieved notoriety for her outrageous horror goth appearance and exhibitionism, her immature and aggressively defensive demeanor which alienates everyone in her life, and her relationship with husband #4 Logan who was 16-years-old and 19 years her junior when they became engaged and was a school friend of her son Dorian who is 8 months older. She has disowned her son after subjecting him to a childhood of neglect and many years of emotional abuse.
Each successive relationship is The One™ which will rescue her from her terrible life and give her a "fresh start." Several of her relationships began while she was still married to and, in some cases, financially supported by the previous husband. She has moved across several states and twice overseas to be with men whom she met online. Once she is established in a new relationship she is quick to denigrate the last with accusations of neglect and abuse despite having been the manipulator, an example of how she continually rewrites her personal history to feed her narcissism and validate her victimhood.
Her addiction to finding new love is closely rivaled by her addiction to acquiring new pets, toys, and clothes which she soon abandons in her hoard (or rehomes in the case of her pets) once their novelty has worn off.
As in real life, she exhibits her Jekyll/Hyde personality online: superficially sweet to her sycophantic followers and crassly vitriolic to anyone who dares to disagree with her. An overwhelming number of her Youtube videos are rants directed at people whom she perceives as having crossed her and at "the haters" on lolcow and Kiwi Farms.
In the course of the last thread:>In yet another video filmed in their Bed That Was More Than A Bed, Raven announces, "I have a real life friend now!" Her new friend is presumably the same friend who bought them groceries.>Josh did not qualify for unemployment. He has applied online to about a hundred and fifty jobs. "He's going to be working hopefully soon, or we're camping out on the street.">While they may not be able to pay their rent, electric bill, or car registration and insurance, Josh bought her two cases of her favorite Monster Slim Jims which she proudly showed off.>She announced that she would be withdrawing from social media and Youtube for lack of having anything to post and because she doesn't want to "surround herself with negativity.">She lost another Patreon patron and is now down to two.>Her photos revealed that they are now living in a different mobile home.>She adopted an unnamed golden retriever black lab cross from the same woman from whom she adopted Meg the tabby kitten. She returned the dog a few days later when his family changed their minds.>After receiving a comment on Instagram from a throwaway account (suspected to be Gir the Alien Goldfish/Placebo who was subsequently ridiculed and banned on Kiwi Farms) criticising her history of pet ownership and threatening to contact the police, Raven posted a video to enumerate the "unfortunate" events which have resulted in her losing her pets and to explain her philosophy of pet ownership to validate how frequently she rehomes her animals.>She admits her fault in the disappearance of Azzy. She says that she briefly left her alone outside to answer a phone call from Josh, and in that time someone must have stolen her.>Two days later she announced the arrival of Doja, an 11 year old blind and hearing impaired purebred pit bull whom she acquired through an unnamed dog rescue organisation. She said that a member of the organisation (who turned out to be the person who transported him) conducted an in-home interview. He arrived with an eye infection and in need of vaccinations and grooming. His blindness, caused by his eyelids folding inwards, could have been prevented with surgery.>Raven created a Facebook page for Doja:https://www.facebook.com/Gentle.Giant.Doja>Her video of Doja revealed just how old and rundown their new LTWMTL Shack is. Josh mentions that it smells. Gnats and flies visibly swarm in front of the camera. The power is out during part of the video. They moved their king size bed into the cramped living room "so that they could keep an eye on him" and because their bedroom is not large enough for him to sleep on their floor.>The next day she posted a video pleading for donations towards Doja's medical expenses, including the link to a Facebook post by Autumn Fralix of the dog rescue organisation. Autumn stated that she was not made aware of Doja's additional health problems prior to arranging the adoption. Donations can be made to Autumn's Paypal account and directly to the vet in Saluda.>In the same video she says that Josh has just started a new job.>Enough money was raised for Doja to be groomed, examined, vaccinated, and tested for heartworm.>On April 3rd Raven announced that her mother had died after having a third stroke. She posted a video which includes a recording of their last phone conversation and says that she knows that getting to the funeral is her responsibility and that she doesn't expect to receive donations and will refund any donations she does receive if they do not go.>Her mother was cremated in Colorado where she and Raven's half-sister and half-brother live. Her ashes will be divided to be interred in El Paso next to Raven's step-dad's grave, shared amongst her family members, and sent to Thailand.>During the following week she posted three more videos about her mom's passing which center on herself. She set-up a GoFundMe with a goal of $500 to cover the cost of a rental car, hotel accommodation, food, and a "modest" dress for the funeral. When the goal was met she increased it to $800. She says both that she intentionally low-balled the goal amount and that she underestimated the cost of the trip. She shows their overdue electric bill marked "Final Notice" and states that she will use the donations towards the bill and overdue rent if they are unable to go. She will still refund people if they request it.>Renting a car is the only option due to her tailbone injury, her agoraphobia, and need to have Josh with her for emotional support since she is "not close" to her siblings.>Doja will be cared for by the dog rescue while she and Josh are away.>She expected the funeral to take place on the 22nd, but her sister emailed her on the 11th informing her that it would be on the 15th. Raven was angry that her siblings did not consider her hardships when setting the date.>Her pleas were successful, netting $850 on GoFundMe and an undisclosed amount via Paypal and bank transfer.>On the funeral home obituary page someone posing as Raven posted the link to a video entitled Meet My Mom in which she describes her mom and their tumultuous relationship in less than flattering terms. Raven posts a foul-mouthed response on the obit page, declaring "I would give anything in my life to have everyone in your families die slowly while you have to watch and suffer.">On Friday the 13th Josh took off early from work for their departure. Raven posted a pic of herself in their Jeep on the way to pick up the rental car.>She announced that she would be deactivating her Facebook profile and community page and taking an "extended break from social media" due to the haters harassing her over her treatment of her mom and in the aftermath of an unrelated drama on Facebook which started when Raven mentioned having been accused of pedophilia for her relationship with Logan. Cy Samael then made a lengthy post about Raven, and Ash Sangre and Zombgora Lilith defended Raven.>After Ash and Zombgora were discussed in the thread, a flame war erupted with new anons strongly suspected to be Ash and Zombgora themselves.
Countdown to The Wedding That Was More Than A Wedding:https://www.theknot.com/us/raven-sparks-and-joshua-bradley-sep-2018https://www.amazon.com/wedding/raven-sparks-joshua-bradley-columbia-september-2018/registry/3U5SA3QRSRSFV
* deactivated or closed accountshttps://www.facebook.com/Official.Raven.Sparks
(new primary account)https://www.facebook.com/you.were.born.to.die.like.this https://www.facebook.com/0nly.the.blind.follow.me https://www.facebook.com/the.modified.doll https://www.facebook.com/i.am.the.dream.forgotten.in.the.morninghttps://www.facebook.com/I.love.my.Marmaladehttps://www.facebook.com/Vv.Raven.vV
* (old primary account)https://www.facebook.com/blood.upon.my.soul
YouTube and Videos:https://www.youtube.com/c/RavenStarblood
(unlinked birthday 2014 video about being cyber-bullied by a fake website, now in the archives) *https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLj9C5ZUyNC5_kBK2A8-93hEIOfQ2F0S9g
(10-part "My Story", some now in the archives) *https://www.youtube.com/c/RavensGastricSleeveJourneyhttps://www.youtube.com/user/LeonbergerLoverNZ
(her pets and Ryan's dogs)http://www.dailymotion.com/raven-sparkshttps://vimeo.com/starbl00d
Archives of leaked videos from >>>/pt/400701
(ranking of her Patreon account)http://a.co/158y4sg
(Amazon wishlist of household items)https://www.hottopic.com/showotherwishlist?WishListID=13d7157a74a3ad791e29755890 http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://raven-official.webs.com:80/apps/bloghttp://www.mywedding.com/ravenandlogan/stories.html
Joshua Manning Bradley:https://www.facebook.com/j.bradley.80.sixhttps://www.instagram.com/jbradley80sixhttps://www.twitter.com/jbradley80sixhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCt9lj5U7JQS_F_hinzqaRlQhttps://plus.google.com/105441917571298337943
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Ashley and Zamboni are being discussed in the altcows thread right now. >>>/snow/557059
Should we keep it there or come back here? Altcow regulars seem to be confused as to why they're being posted there, but some anons here were getting pissy about shitting up Raven's thread, even though these two (probably one, just Ashley) inserted themselves into her drama.
I was quite happy for them to be mentioned here since we found them through association with Raven as long as it didn't become repetitive and we MAINLY focused on Raven, but everyone seemed angry and said it was derailing, so I went over to alt cows since that's what was asked by the majority, but apparently they aren't interested and do not even claim to know who Raven is, nor are they interested despite some anons providing links ect.
I'm not trying to derail, but it's something I noticed and was wondering the same thoughts as you anon. Maybe a farm hand could actually let us know instead of all this backseat modding?
Besides, do we still mention them in the alt thread if Ravey mentions them? Or if they mention Raven in the future?
Again, not trying to shit stir or derail, I would like to know officially because it's confusing.
Their interactions with Raven should be discussed here.
Ash is in the process of erasing her internet presence, so there won't be anything to discuss.
Zombgora, along with her band, is enough of a cow for the Altcow thread which is intended to be open to discussing new cows.
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From the Altcow snow thread. Hopefully it's about Gravy.
Maybe, but Raven never apologizes for anything, so. Also, we didn't say anything about either of those other people she mentions, just Jeremy Goodman that dumbass who said he >Want me to stab them in stupid face ?
So I am not sure. But it would be funny if it was about Raven, considering Ash claimed not to know anything about her misdeeds because she hadn't done any research.
Your point about Gravy never apologizing is legit. But "And why don't you quit pretending to be offline. You were just on your fake account" makes me want to believe it's her.
It warms my heart that Gravy asks her friends to stand up for her to internet bullies, but then when they become the subject of these threads, she is nowhere to be found.
All aboard the Gravy Train, toot toot! But those of you who expect anything in return from her can get the fuck off right now.
I reckon what happened is that Gravy read here while she was 'offline' because let's face it, she always reads here.
Then I reckon her and Ash either spoke and Gravy didn't believe her, OR Gravy just removed her from her friends list without saying anything. I'm guessing the latter.
Raven is a dumbass, but it was extremely easy to tell Ash's samefagging and posts so I'm sure, Raven being the paranoid person she is, just deleted her and this in turn has annoyed Ash hence her post.
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From this >>504551
to shittalk you in two days? You lost the general of your army Raven, what did you do?
Yeah there is no way in hell they left the funeral and drove all the way back to saluda straight through. The funeral was sunday afternoon. that video looks to be filmed between noon-4 Monday. No fucking way.
>they're just jealous because they don't have stuff.
Ha! Got us! I pray everyday I'm hit with a overdue electric bill. Damn Raven! She has everything.
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Ok guys, I know we had that whole "The hate sites posted the video that I made about my mom against my will" thing going on, so it may be that spiel again, BUT
Acording to Susan, Ravens sis, she did not went to the service, and 'were missed'.
Not that we did not know that already, but now there is confirmation. She scammed the hell out of those stupid people and is lying through her teeth.
Off you go spend those dollah Graven.
Damn that's a really beautiful urn and flower display. My heart hurts.
I have to take the second "SSC" with a grain of salt because it's not the same way she made her name and location as the photo post.
Exactly what I though, but, I'm gonna stick with that for now since Raven cannot confirm she WAS at the memorial.
I mean, look at those flowers. Can you imagine Raven NOT taking a pic of that and posting it to instagram if she were there?
So wait. She's claiming they left Friday afternoon, drove 24+ hours, went to the memorial on Sunday, then drove another 24+ hours and was home on Monday? Just want to make sure I have this straight.
Assuming she actually went to the memorial, why didn't she just stay for the committal service on Tuesday?
She took & posted a bunch of pictures before they got to the rental car place, says she took a bunch there too, but then says this wasn't the kind of ~woohoo road trip~ where you take a bunch of pictures… so she just didn't take a single other picture on the entire trip to El Paso, none once she got there, and none on her way home?
Yeah, not buying this shit at all. If I were one of the idiots who donated to her, I'd be fuming.
Like honestly, if you squeeze that much money and sympathy out of that many people, they deserve some real evidence that you actually used it the way you promised.
She's keeping up this racket because she told everyone that if she couldn't make it, she'd return the money to anyone who asked. But she never planned to go, or
to return any money.
And she's probably so salty in that "final" video because she just bought all this new STUFF that we're all so super jealous over, and she can't even show it off. And without being able to show off her STUFF, what's the point of being on the Internet?
Yeah I don't get it either. Her fans are either really dumb or naive. If I was a hardcore fan of someone, I'd probably still google them to see if they had scandals. Especially if said person had mentioned lolcow or 'hate sites' This is after all, the era of 'exposing culture'
It's crazy that they take this bitch's word as gospel and continue to give her money with such little return as well.
She's horrible to most of the people in her youtube comments.
She even said
in her latest video that she can't trust anyone even her friends, but then goes on to thank her 'supporters'
So you don't trust them enough to make content for them, but you trust them enough to give you hand outs and money?
I bet she didn't even end up mailing out their giveaways. She was such a cunt about that too. 'People are telling me which item they want! HOW RUDE'
Nah bitch. You are the rude one. When Josh dumps your ass or you have noone left, not even your son because you isolated him too, you'll come begging back to the internet and guess what, you have cried wolf too many times for people to take you seriously.
People here don't bully you for no reason, if you actually were capable of not being a victim all the time and blaming other people you could change your life, but you won't.
Fuck you Raven. You are actual scum.
look at some of the fans we've seen. zamboni the ebegger, ash the saccharine sweet shit stirrer, and various retards like ryan. dregs attract dregs.
this memorial thing is fucking hilarious. gran is so thick, which limits the damage she can do, and makes her so fucking obvious when she cooks up something. definitely some 'Josh' posts coming from the library soon.
(throwback to something earlier - did anyone else think the ween on the memorial page was Gir / Placebo? the 'julay goffic' seemed like a retarded callout of KF and I don't think Gran has any fans over there who would do that other than Gir)
This. They probably moved in with josh's mother and that's also why she can't film. I can't see her actually paying bills. Plushies ce first.
I honestly am glad her mother spent her last hours and had a lovely service put on by her children that care and love for her. Raven would have caused drama at the funeral anyway
Yeah she's kind of done everything she can to isolate him.
The faked miscarriage with no evidence.
He no longer seems to see his family.
He is her only support system and I feel like even though Josh is a bit of an asshole, he's empathetic and doesn't exactly wanna dump her because there's no nice way of doing it and she'll threaten suicide.
Might have to wait for transcript anon, but did the Hagraven actually say the words "I went to my mother's funeral" or did she just heavily imply she did? Because I agree with >>506370
that Josh does/did seem a little more morally inclined. Maybe the Hagraven is meeting him halfway by not explicitly lying by saying she went, while not confirming she didn't go either.
But yeah. It's pretty obvious she didn't go. If she did, we'd get a 40+ minute video of her crowing about "da h8ders tried to stop meh but I made it!!1!" along with her whining about how much pain she was in during the non-stop drive, some candids from Chico's Tacos, and her showing Couch the sites. Oh, and also it was physically impossible for her to make it there and back in her time frame. >>506367
To me it sounds like her internet hiatus may be partially to appease Josh. She mentioned multiple times in this video that Josh feels negatively about her online shenanigans and that he was instantly on board to delete his social medias. And she never fully commits to being offline (like she did when she moved). She said she will still be online to check her youtube comments just not "obsessively" - we know Gran isn't self aware enough to see her behavior as obsessive. Also, if >>506192
is to be believed, she will still be online all day on her fake accounts. >>506330
She's 100% trying to re-write history. Which is funny because she picked the absolute worst incident to lie about. There are receipts galore and I'm pretty she herself admitted to posting her death on D's page. I knew she was a moron but this is taking it to another level. When I have time I'll compile the evidence so we can all rub it in her face and kek, assuming no one else gets to it first.
All in all, a good conclusion to the Gravy Funeral Saga. 10/10 did enjoy.
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Same fag. I forgot to add that she isn't confirming anything in her comments so far. People are offering her condolences and she does not address it.
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Alright so there are way too many receipts to post. I'll post the two most damning: Dorian confirming that yes indeed she faked her own death, and a screenshot from KF where someone appears to have transcribed her facebook status where she herself confirms she faked it - unfortunately there was no screen cap posted of it at the time and she has since deleted it so there is no way to 100% confirm that she said this.
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Also this one cuz it is a fine work of art and should be revisited from time to time
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Ash Sangre made another post about Gravy:https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10209232489123982&set=a.1807174473829.75315.1673953190&type=3
>And to those who are reading this, if you wish to see the things she’s said, wish to see that she has been online or wish to know her fake account (the one I know of) message me. I won’t post it here, but I will gladly share it.>>>/snow/557941
She goes on to say>and not wanting to see me before she does
which sounds like she was anticipating her mom's death all the way back in 2014. But then she can't really act like it was such a shock that her mom finally died of an illness she had been dealing with since at least
2014. It just makes her look like an even bigger piece of shit, because she knew her mom was dying the whole time, and spent all her money on useless garbage instead of actually bothering to go see her. Then she used it to scam people out of at least $1,000 and loads of pity once she actually died.
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Yep, momma couch is pissed at Raven. We were right.
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Published on Apr 16, 2018
Um, this is gonna be my very last update for a while. I am making this update for all the people that are wondering what has happened, where I went, again, and what happened with my GoFundMe and stuff like that. So I will try to make this short. No promises, though.
First of all, I did meet my goal not once, but twice, so thank you to everybody who helped me make that goal and to those who sent last minute donations which greatly helped us with gas.
I took a couple of pictures on the way to the car rental place and um, I mean, I only took like three or four pictures, but I'll upload those. This wasn't a trip for us to be like, woohoo road trip or woohoo this or woohoo that. So there's no photos aside from us when we first left.
It's been a very kind of traumatic and really hard weekend. This was the weekend my mom was laid to rest. This was the weekend to, you know…I said my goodbyes and now I need to try to find closure. It's gonna take me a while to come to terms with all this still. When Josh is here I'm fine. When I'm distracted I'm fine. When he's not here it's really, really hard on me. I don't want to talk about my mom. I don't want to talk about the dog. I don't want to talk about anything at the moment.
The only thing that this video really is going to talk about is why I am not gonna be on social media again for a while. I don't know this time when I'll come back. The other times I've left, I've left, you know, for pretty much the same reasons, though not as extreme. But I've had really nothing, and so I've come back and I've come back and I've come back. And this time I really can't see why I would come back, to be completely honest with you. Like, it just hasn't appealed to me for a long time, and this has just pushed me over the edge. I just, I just can't keep doing this. One of us has got to stop, and the fuckin' people that stalk me are never gonna stop. And I'm tired of this back and forth, back and forth, me trying to justify my life, and them just doing these things that are getting worse and worse and worse.
What they did this time is, I had posted an update and my mom's obituary. And I guess from the obituary page it linked to her memorial page which I didn't even know. I thought it was the same thing on different pages, so I didn't know until the day that we left. And they had gone and taken one of my really old videos and they posted it on her memorial page as me.
And this was an old video where I was talking about me and her and how we didn't have a great relationship and kind of the hardships of growing up and, you know, things like that. Like, when I started my Youtube I started it for stupid…you know, it was nothing. It was because I was dating somebody. It was my ex in New Zealand. I was dating him, and it was a way for him to see me. And then people started watching me, and it just kind of went from there. It turned into this dumb nothing for me to show him. I, I was real stupid about the way the internet worked. I didn't know that what you uploaded was visible to, like, everybody. I was just, you know, like a kid, you know. I hadn't really used the internet before, and I didn't really think anything of it, that things come back to haunt you, and other people could see shit, and they'd they be interested or wanting to watch your life. And, and then I started being watched.
And it turned into, like, therapy for me because in New Zealand, you know, I was all alone. I was alone for the whole time I was there. I didn't have any friends. I mean, I had people I talked to ish. I could never a hundred percent trust any of them, so I sat in my house alone. Logan didn't really talk to me. Dorian didn't talk to me. At the time I was with my first ex, he didn't really talk to me. We didn't really have anything in common, and so I sat there by myself. And then I realized, you know, I've got this platform where I could just vent and just talk. And it really was therapeutic. I just sat there and I talked about whatever I needed to get off of my chest. I opened my mouth and I just let myself talk about whatever it was, and I felt so much better. I got feedback, I got support, and I got to get it out. Unfortunately that made me a target because apparently you're not supposed to do that. And I overshared or whatever and was hated for it which makes absolutely no sense to me because it wasn't hurting anybody. It was just me talking for my own good, you know. And over the years I've had to watch what I say and how I word things because I've been judged for every single thing that I've ever said or done. Like, I'm like the world's most horrible person. And I am not.
I've recently come back under attack because on Facebook I was tagged in a post, and it was one of those where the person goes and they tag like everybody on their friends list. He's mutual friends with somebody. And they said, oh, this person's a pedophile, block them, you don't want this trash on your friends list, yada yada yada. And I had a look into it, and this guy was dating this girl that was five years younger than him. And I was like, for one, that's not a pedophile, and for two, I'm not gonna throw somebody under the bus, block them, delete them, make their life hell, especially over something that I get called all the time.
Now these people are on this whole pedophile thing because of Logan. And it's like, a pedophile is somebody who is sexually attracted to prepubescent children. I was in a marriage with somebody who was younger, and I understand completely that you hear the age gap and you're like, what the fuck, that's disgusting. You can think it's wrong, morally wrong, blah blah blah blah blah. But it is not being a pedophile. It was something that happened that neither of us are even in anymore. It's been almost a year since we have been split up, and I'm still getting hell for it. He was willing, whether he knew what he was getting into or not. The fact is we both wanted that relationship, we both got into the relationship. It wasn't for me to manipulate him, hurt him, or sexually abuse him or anything like that. It was just two people that thought they were in love and they got together and after just about six years it didn't work out. But we were married. We had a relationship. It was not sex-based or anything like that. And I'm sick to death of being torn apart about it.
And yeah, I'm not gonna do that to somebody else. So I commented, I said, you know, I don't agree with this, there's not a huge age gap. I had a 19 year age gap with my ex, and I will pay for that relationship til the day I die, and I'm not doing that to somebody else. And because I did the right thing…People read my comment and they were like, oh, oh, that's disgusting… [cut] And all this shit just started all over again tenfold just because I refused to do what's been done to me to somebody else. And I don't regret my decision because I'm not a bully and I'm not gonna go and and judge somebody else for their decision, you know. I'm just not. I'm not gonna do it.
And yeah, because of that they tried to get my GoFundMe taken down. They said it was a scam, it was fake. So then I linked to the obituary and they, you know, they went to her page and they did that.
And it's like, you know, they did the same kind of shit, hurtful shit when I had my ectopic and my miscarriages. They took the pictures of my, my baby before I lost it and said that I aborted them and, like, real just obnoxious bullshit stuff. I also have screenshots of when my mom first had her stroke back in 2014 and I was trying to get money to go see her, and they were like, you reap what you sow, pedo. Like my mom deserved to have a stroke because they think I'm a pedophile. So I know they have no respect for anybody. But to to disrespect the dead like that, it's just, I don't…I can't even come to terms with that. I just can't do it. I don't understand how somebody could be so hurtful and hateful. [the light dims] I have no idea why that just dimmed. Yeah, I have no idea why somebody…how somebody can be so disgusting that they would stoop that low. But I mean, I shouldn't put anything past them at this point, honestly. I just…yeah, it's been…this is the seventh year that I'm going through this kind of bullying and stalking and hearing the same thing about me being said constantly constantly constantly constantly. I'm not in that relationship anymore. I'm not in New Zealand anymore. My mom died. They're trying to say that I'm trying to use her to get sympathy. No, I was explaining that she died, I'm freaking the fuck out. I was so fucking upset because I, I never got to make it to see her one last time, and I desperately needed to get to her funeral. And that's not using people, that's…it's facts, that's just what it is.
And uh, they don't understand how facts and emotions work. They don't understand that you could have a bad relationship with your parent but still love them and not want them to die, you know. Just because we didn't have the perfect relationship doesn't mean she's no longer my mother, you know. It's something my own son could learn. And yes, I did tell him. I, I contacted him, I told him. You know, he didn't even ask, mom, how are you doing, how are you feeling, nothing. Like, he just…he's so goddamn selfish still. He has nothing to say to me. But whatever, I did my, my part and I let him know because I felt he had the right to know. So you don't have to ask about that.
But, you know, your parent is always your parent, good or bad. I mean, unless they really really fucked you over and even then there's that desire to still them to love you, you know, want them to be your your parent. And my mom and I have had a really up-and-down relationship. But I understand for the most part because she…You know, her parents died when she was six years old. She didn't have role models or parents, and she told me many times, I don't know how to be a mom, I didn't have a mom and dad. And I always felt really bad for her even if I resented her growing up because, I mean, it kind of sucked. But um, I never wanted her to die. And I wanted to be able to say my goodbyes. And thank the fuck I have so many, just so many good people out there. You guys help me.
Um, but like I said in my last video where I said I don't, like, I don't have the heart for this anymore or whatever. I just can't keep doing this to myself. This was, like, the last straw. They can go online and pretend that I've killed myself again or said that I'm dead or whatever. So I'm putting this out there: whatever you see from "me" [air quotes]. It doesn't matter how authentic it looks: pictures, recent Facebook URLs, email addresses. They make shit similar. When I disappeared when I moved here, I got emails from "Emily Boo" which was her email address plus, like, a dot at the end, something really, really minute. The thing is is I know her email address because we used to email, so I knew it wasn't her, but they pretended to be her to write me. They're real, real slick and really fucking sneaky. And when they see that I am not online, they will go nuts talking about me and faking screenshots and all this stuff.
And it sucks that I have to say this, but I do. The last time I disappeared, not when I came here, but before that, they made a page saying that I had killed myself. It was a rest in peace Facebook page saying I OD'ed on insulin. And then when my friends recognized that that was not my handwriting or the way that I write, they came on and said, oh this is the real Raven Sparks, I, I didn't really kill myself I faked my own death for attention or to see if anybody cared or some bullshit. And they're still talking about that. It's like there are different groups of people that are doing hate sites about me. And one of these groups did it, and the other group was like, there…she's just trying to say that there's more than one hate site about her, who the fuck does she think she is? Like, as if I don't have hate sites about me. But yet there's a handful of them that are doing all this shit to me, and they've been doing it for it now going on seven years. So yeah, they're fucking obsessive, and they did that to me last time. I wouldn't put them past it to reuse that again because they can't get over the pedophile thing. They can't get over any of that even though I'm with someone that's only ten years younger than me now.
But you know, I have a life here now. I've got a doggie to worry about. Me and Josh, we have our life. We talk, we watch stuff together. We, we don't really go out, but we have a damn good life. And I'm not gonna let what's happening online affecting me to the point where it's gonna affect our relationship. This relationship means more than anything else in the world to me, and I'm not, I'm not gonna let it keep tearing me apart the way that it is.
So my Facebook and my Facebook page…I still have the…I left the horror page and the humor page up because I have other admins on those pages. Goth Boys I don't run. Metal Men and all those pages I don't run so…or there's other people that run them for me, so those pages are still up. But I cannot be contacted through those pages. My fanpage is not up. My YouTube is just gonna be left as is. If I have lingering videos that are scheduled then, then they're scheduled, I'll leave those. If not then not. I'm not even going to check. I don't even want to check am I scheduled. I just want to get this up and out there and just forget it.
And yeah, that's about it. I don't know when. L4ike, Josh, out of respect for me, has also removed his facebook because we're kind of on it for each other. And if I'm not on there's really no reason for him to be on. His choice, not mine. I didn't make him do it. He said, oh, you're gonna deactivate, I'll deactivate, too. He's been wanting to get offline for a while, anyway. He sees social media as fucking evil, and I agree. We used it, we met each other. There's really no need for either of us to be on it. I stayed on it for my supporters, you know. Every time I wanted to leave I have all these people, but don't go, I miss you, I miss you. And I kept putting everybody else first, and it was just making me more and more and more miserable.
And what they've done on my mom's memorial page is just the last straw for me. And they're not taking anything else from me. Not my time, not seeing what I'm up to. They can go batshit fucking crazy wondering what is happening in my life. And good.
So thank you everybody who has supported me over the years from back in 2011…no, I first got on in 2007. So 2007 on, thank you so much for being here, being around, listening to me, relating to me, liking me, whatever, watching me go through all my different life stages and changes, and your support. Thank you for your help with the getting to my mom's funeral, the…that fund, funding donation thing. I didn't even think it would work and it did. And you guys came through for me and in a way I'll never ever be able to repay. And um, that helped, it helped me so much. You guys don't even know.
And um, I know that you will understand why I just need to get the fuck off line. This is too much, and it's not worth my mental or emotional health, and it's not worth affecting my relationship. It's not worth what it does to me to have to see myself dragged through the mud, especially for doing the right thing and not being a bully. Um, I just can't take it anymore. This doesn't mean they've won. It just means that I have better things to do with my life than to keep feeding into their bullshit and keep going around in this circle with them. I post, they post, I post, they post, I defend myself, they post and they rip it apart and they keep on with the same old same old same old. I want to be free, and the only way for me to be free is not to be online which is fine.
We've got a wedding to plan for which unfortunately everybody's gonna miss, but it is what it is. I will of course come back and check my Youtube comments here and there. I'm not gonna obsessively check it every day, but I will check it and, you know, accept the comments as they come in when I see them when I am online.
I don't really have anything else to say. This has droned on a bit. I thought this was gonna be like five minutes, but it never is. Fitting for a goodbye video. But yeah, the haters are gonna have to just drive themselves crazy wondering what the fuck I'm up to now. And they're gonna say, we don't care what she's up to, we don't care what she does, oh good for her, let's see how long she'll be gone now, yada yada yada. But they're gonna go crazy and they're gonna be looking online, hoping to find me somewhere, hoping to find some dirt on me that they haven't already found. And then when they don't find me online and they don't find anything they're gonna be like, oh my god, this is her. And then they're gonna make fake profiles of me as they do and as they've already shown that they did last time. So I already know what to expect and you guys know what to expect. I don't want to hear it. If you see, oh my god, Raven said this or Raven did that. No. Unless you see my face attached to it saying, by the way I'm back online, this is my profile or my profiles are back, do not believe it. Unless you see Josh online saying Raven is dead or something has happened to her, do not believe it. It's just them. So don't fall into it. They…they're obsessed, like psychotically obsessed. It's just gone way past the point of unnatural. And they can play by themselves now because I'm not playing anymore.
Take care you guys, and I will see you who knows when. I might just never come back. Shit, it already feels good not to be online. So I'll see you around if I see you around. If not, take care. And um, [she cracks her knuckles] just don't believe what you read online cuz people are fucking stupid and they have no life and they're jealous of people that have support and have stuff that they will never have. That's the sign of an empty, lonely, pathetic person. And you should really feel sorry for them because they just, they have nothing. Bye.
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Sooo she didn't
go to the funeral?
This video was posted on YouTube Tuesday, 04/17/18 at 04:19:17 GMT (so 12:19 a.m. EDT, her local time). It was obviously filmed during the day though, so I guess Monday. Her mom's memorial service was Sunday the 15th, ending at 3 p.m. EDT. So she immediately got in the car afterward and drove 1,600 miles, 24+ hours back to Saluda? And somehow made it back in time to film this video during the day on Monday?>>506454>>506455>>506457
lol so the only pictures she took on her trip were still in Saluda County. Okay Gravy.
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Ash is pissed and REALLY does not know Raven at all. kek
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>I'm with someone that's only ten years younger than me now.
But I shop him to look twenty years younger.
I think it's safe to assume. >>506468
She also said she wouldn't publicly talk about it, and then 10 minutes later….
But Ash isn't getting any hate from me. Girl is pissed and rightfully so. Drag Gravy to filth, Ash!
This isn't a video. It was a comment on the memorial page.>>506465
LOL! Maybe you should quit while you're ahead, Ash. Getting a little cringe.
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I'm curious where this will lead. With his family against Raven, I wonder if he will dump her. But in Raven's mind, I believe she thought Couch was her final destination - she snagged him with the little remaining "good looks" she had left and is ready to settle in for the rest of her life. She knows her prospects are rapidly disappearing. And she has zero prospects except maybe Ryan (old screen cap).
So like, what happens to her? Does Josh drive her ass to El Paso and dump her off?
We all knew this was what she was going to do, but can you imagine being such garbage that you use your mom’s death to score money for junk food and fucking toys.
This cumrag. She is so vile and I hope she gets dumped by her current patsy real soon.
Luckily they were capped.
Ash needs to go to KF imo, that way she can get verified and spill without everyone bitching that what she’s saying is bs.
I have a tinfoil that the person who was derailing last thread was fucking Gir/Marion/etta because that bitch can’t stand not being in the spotlight where Raven is concerned. She’s a cow herself.
I really think she is one of those people that regret ranting, she always delete the aggravated posts she makes (sha also deleted those >>505714
and >>557477) remember to always cap rants, people. kek
Also, by the time we posted, Raven must have used one of those 454840 accounts to harass her.
Oooh she’s sneaky. That’s the only way to wipe convos on FB, but how the fuck did she ge them to respond that fast?
CAP EVERYTHING ASH!
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She posted Ruby Woo in one of her rants. Earlier today Ruby was from Saluda but I guess Hagraven removes that and I did not get a screen shot.
Ash, if you are reading this and cannot respond for that allegedly ban:
Dump all the screenshots and txt somewhere like a MEGA link. We will grab it, then you can delete it and be move on with your life.
@ Ash, you could also use https://imgur.com/
for images or https://pastebin.com/
Or you could email email@example.com and I'll post.
If this is Gir with the julay shit please fuck off.
If it’s someone from KF trying to help get the milk, thanks, but we’re a little gunshy since that ‘julay goffic’ comment was left. Gir is not welcome here.
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She will do it. Lets give her time.
It's late o'clock at my turf, but the anticipation of the sweet, creamy milk flowing in frothing waves stops me from going to bed.
And #prayforjosh, he might be a couchie extraordinaire, but I don't think he deserves to have his life ruined by this bruja.
I'm torn on whether I believe Josh deserves this or not.
On one hand, he seems a little slow. Plus I wouldn't wish Gravy on my worst enemy.
On the other, he was fucking awful to Claudia, and supports (or at least goes along with) Gravy's latest scam.
Why was she banned?
Ash, go to KF (Kiwi Farms) and grab a mod, there’s always someone on. They will help you to get verified, and also help you with image hosting, etc.
That way you don’t have to worry about posters/mods here reporting/banning you.
Unreal. She wants to spill milk and we ban her.
according to her in >>506432
she was banned for no-sage quite a while back in another thread. >>506551
seems to be a new ban? for samefagging with the goth defense force last thread. no-one knew she was gonna flip.>>506578
that was always weird, on the one hand he was all fight me, nerds. on the other hand, gran was already moving into control mode and telling him he mustn't look. and since he looks more and more dead inside with every appearance, and seems to have been cut off from his family, I think he's more likely to attack her than defend her.
yeah and she begged on an official site. I think we can at least report her to gofundme because of scam.
Her sisters message, that she's been missed at her mom's funeral should be proof that she didn't use the money, she begged for, to go there?
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I think someone would need hard evidence that she committed fraud. Right now, even though we're all pretty certain she didn't go, it's just speculation based on the timeline not adding up, along with her history as a terrible person.
can we please not turn into the JSBS thread?
no, it is not illegal. she stated that if she couldn't achieve getting to the memorial, she'd use it for bills, so that's covered. also, you must be new to gofundme, anon #2 - they have zero shits to give about scamming because it makes them a lot of money. you'd be very, very hard pressed to gather enough evidence to make them do anything.
>>506610>Firstly I want to say I feel bad doing this. Even though she’s done this to me 3 times now, I still feel guilty giving information >I’ll get to the messages I have saved in a moment. But let me give you the accounts I know of>Raven Sparks>Raven Bradley>Ruby Woo>Aurora Baphowitch>The Bradley messages are somehow unable to be seen. I could see them before but as of today, I cannot. >These specific messages I will not post on my personal Facebook because of my family, friends and coworkers. They need not see the drama that I was brought into. >The car accident. She messaged me the day after and told me that she wanted to go to Walmart which is a ways away from her and stop and get shakes and fries. Josh had just gotten off a 16 hour shift due to the holidays but still wanted to make her happy since she was stuck inside all day. So they were using his mothers car for him to get back and forth to work. So while he was driving back home, he fell asleep at the while while she was videoing herself. And he hit an elderly coming coming towards them. I know for a fact she wasn’t pregnant because they burned her tubes after her last eptopic to stop anymore pregnancies that could cause her to become ill. But this is how she traps men. With faux pregnancies. So Joshs mom was very upset, no insurance, he was at fault. She quit talking to Raven. And apparently Josh as well and refuses to help anymore. But in order to keep him. She said she had a miscarriage and he was at fault. It made him depressed. She sent me photos of her stomach saying she put a tiny bit of weight back on and it made her look pregnant. Also raven was not injured aside from slight whiplash. She wanted to get money out of it but found out that would require suing her boyfriend. >About a month later she messaged me asking about opiates. I’m a CNA and k ow about most medications and she asked how she could go about getting more from doctors by saying she was in pain. I told her if she is legitimately in pain to go to a pain specialist. She then confided in me that she was fine and that Josh had been taking them constantly and that was why he was fired from Fedex due to a random drug screen. She says that is why he was looking so haggard and that he acted her because if he didn’t have these pills, he would go into a rave and he had slammed her into the wall screaming in her face. But she said she couldn’t leave him because she hasn’t nowhere else to go and no one to help her. I don’t m ow if any of this is true, but it is what she told me. If it is true. I feel bad for him. And he needs help and to get away from her. >The reason why I am so angry, she and I do have mutual acquaintances. One of them was kind enough to tell me that Raven had a master plan this whole time. To scam for money and go hang out with her because she lives in the same state. She also started talking about me saying I jumped into the CY Samael fiasco to gain a following. I do not want people to follow me. I am private aside from posting photos. I do not want notoriety. Heaven forbid anyone have attention aside from her. I guess she figured this mutual pal wouldn’t send me a message. And honestly, I was shocked she did as well. >But I am glad I now know. I never delved deep into her past. I never knew what I do now. And frankly I’m aghast at the things she has done and said. I work with people who are mentally and physically disabled, she is not one of those people. I also do volunteer work with my local shelter every so often. And to see that she abuses animals makes me so mad. I just can’t even speak about it. But after reading through all of her threads, I get why she is on there.
I've grabbed all of them. So if no one posts until later, when I have time, I will dump them, just have to put them in order.
TLDR she confirms we got EVERYTHING right. Adresses, jobs, personal data and info. She lurks here EVERYDAY, there is even a message from Josh telling her that we've won and to let us be and stop worrying about us.
>I'd make them all answer for it and then torture them and their families slowly while make them look me in the face.
I'M DYING. This is the best milk in ages.
Thanks Ash! Good luck dealing with the Hagraven. I knew she was mental but this….this is on a different level.
Good to get confirmation that literally everything that Raven publicly says is a lie! Not at all obsessed with the haters, eh Gravy?
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Thanks for dropping by and for releasing the caps!
I don’t believe Josh was taking her pills or beating her. Diana is a pathological liar, as these lovely caps show. She’s just laying groundwork to move on from him when she finds someone with more money.
Her sister is so pretty!
Wow these caps remind me of a crazy bpd friend that used to use me whenever she was fighting with a boyfriend or something. She was so similar to Raven.
I get the vibe from Ash's responses, that she merely pitied Raven. Notice how her responses are a little bit restrained. She still says stuff like 'cyber stalkers' but a lot of it seems like oh wow, that's terrible. Very generic responses. I used to be the same after my crazy friend burned me several times.
I feel like Josh needs to know about the fake pregnancy, from Raven's posts he kind of seems like a piece of shit, but it is
Raven after all. I feel bad that she has isolated him from his family. Josh needs to get the fuck out of there and leave this troll to rot in Saluda somewhere. Without internet she wont be able to snag another victim and pretend she had a miscarriage.
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This is what bothered me so much. It seems like she was just using Josh for a way back home. Not because she truly cares.
Sorry anon, I meant gravy is a dirty fighter and I don't trust even a milimeter of her. She has the ability to twist and manipulate everything she comes into contact with. I'm happy that this IS out there now, my intent was not to disparage you personally in any way, apologies if it read that way.
You're doing godbears own work anon. TY.
Wow, this is like partially admitting that she uses people to get to different places.
It's almost like she is like 'yeah I've tried to use people to get where I want, lucky this time it's someone I actually tolerate and like'
Nice quads, anon. Looks like she’s saying what she did was illegal, so…draw your own conclusions!
I love seeing narcs talking to people they think they can use. So different.
Thanks for the milk, Ash.
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I did have these. They were in my messages on her Raven Bradley account. They disappeared late last night. I should have saved them.
says "To scam for money and go hang out with her because she lives in the same state."
Julie-Ann is the only friend in SC Raven has mentioned.
I don't want to believe it, but I cannot tell since he has been known to have slurred speech.
Either way, I hope he gets away. I'm not taking Raven's side, trust me.
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Reposting the best ones. Here is confirmation they lied about their break up to divorce fast
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Talking about Logan being hurt from the break up, it wasn’t mutual
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Raven hurting Logan more, with that girl who was talking to him.
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Whose work is this!? I nearly died when I saw she screen shot it! Legendary.
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The 500 a month trailer they cannot afford
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Youtube money is needed!
I don’t see why he wouldn’t have slurred speech back when he was working sixteen hour days. Also, everything that was said to Ash still came from Raven first, it’s not like Ash herself met them or anything.
It’s a lot easier for me to believe Raven was taking them over ‘He forced me to get him more and more pills while I was struggling with the tears in my liver and with the horrors of the accident and MUH MISCARRIAGE!’
not to knock trailer living but jfc she's so proud of that trailer. "look what i scammed up this time"
The new trailer they're in is even worse.
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Shows when you search it up
Wait, wait, she pretends to be married couples? As Facebook profiles? She is fucking batshit crazy. Wow. I’m impressed.
She really is a horrorcow.
Okay, this is officially creepy as hell. She even writes all the comments? I can’t even imagine all the time it must take to do all that shit and make sure you don’t make any mistakes. On forty plus profiles.
I wonder if any of the sock accounts were friended by the other socks? This is getting more and more interesting by the minute! Thanks for milk!
She was definitely on her oxycodone during two of the videos she filmed after the accident.>>506709
Of course they lied about the length of their separation when New Zealand makes it so easy by only requiring a sworn afadavit.>>506713
I posted the cake. I found it in Google image search.
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everyone on pencreek is going to hear her hollering kek
The pathetic thing is she probably could have had a nice life with Josh if she just stayed offline. The screenshot shows that he is trying to warn her not to feed into the stuff online (little does he know, it's very useful dirt on her)
Also other anons have commented on his fed up appearance when she starts talking about hadddurs.
Even Logan got to the point where he'd roll his eyes.
She even claimed that money isn't a big deal and that her and Josh are happy with each other.
Yeah so happy that you can't keep your fat fingers off the camera for a minute because you need
money from your supporters
(aka dumb kind souls that just wanna help out and are blinded to your bullshit)
Yeah, she was high as a kite in a couple of videos. I’m not buying that she’d even let Josh get his hands on that, surely that shit was her precioussss while she was getting them.
One hundred percent she is laying the bitchy groundwork to dump Couchie. She has a long history of shittalking everyone else and if the bloom is already off the rose to the degree that she guilts him about a never-was baby, she’s definitely on the lookout.
To be a fly on the wall in that filthy hovel tonight. I hope there are no guns in the place, seriously. She’s going to go ballistic.
Right? Can you imagine her bellowing about the vicious liessss spread about her online?
Josh needs to wait till she's asleep, grab Doja and get the fuck out of there.
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OP anon here. All I did was Google various combinations of her name and known handles.
And he cares too much about her to take her meds and let her suffer. When she enumerated his injuries he downplayed them.
Despite lacking the motivation to work fulltime to support himself and get off his mom's couch, he has always seemed determined to do so out of his love for her.
holy shit kek
do you know any of these profiles?
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Gravy's sister (or someone posing as her) posted again, which means that if it really is
her, she saw the post about Diana not being there, and she left it, so they're either both legit, or both fake.
For anyone here from Kiwi, where there seems to be some confusion, these are Raven's mom's memorial links.
1. The Sunset Funeral Home page, which was trolled and then deleted: https://archive.is/2018.04.11-10:54:15/http://www.sunsetfuneralhomes.net/obituaries/Kim-Sparks/
2. The new one: http://www.sunsetfuneralhomes.net/obituaries/Kim-Sparks-2/
3. The Legacy.com/El Paso Times guestbook: https://www.legacy.com/guestbooks/elpasotimes/kim-s-sparks-condolences/188715023
It’s always a good thing to keep your lip zipped around narcs, they love gathering info so they can use it to fuck with you.
Do all of the profiles she uses have a photo that tells people it’s her? Like, was that picture with the spiders supposed to be super seekrit Raven code? I mean, she’s got the maturity of a twelve year old, it’d fit.
God she's so retarded.
She did not go, she kept the money.
Her statement of "there were no photos taken!" Is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
She took photos of, AND SHARED, when her cat was run over by a car.
She took photos of, AND SHARED when her fetus was aborted.
But her mothers funeral is not occasion enough to take photos?>>506345>>506331
She would have been like a paparazzi in that funeral if she DID go, and she would have made a video an hour long and 2 mins at least to talk about every single minute detail of the funeral, how sad she was and how beautiful the flowers and urn was and wishing she could take it all home, her dress and what she wore, we all know. And of course the video would be all about her in every aspect, and not about remembering her mother.
Also of course she would bitch and moan about how gruesome her family is and how horrid they treat her.
There is every reason in the entire world to believe this to be true >>506321
How in the fucking hell is it possible they drove there and back, non-stop, (which even if we do give it the benefit of the doubt is a serious drive within the time frame) and she can post a video THIS soon and not look worse than normal, and on top of that NOT complaining about muh tailbone and whatever else.
When has Raven NOT posted a lengthy video, describing her adventures and rambling on and on?
When has she NOT posted ca 1452 pictures of EVERYTHING it included? (On every platform, none the less.)
The rental car, how awesome/horrible it was to drive, pics of her and couchboy in the car, pics of travelling along the way, the gas station slim jims, the taco bell lunches, etc.
When has she ever let such an opportunity for asspats just slide on by?
-When its all lies and deceit.
She takes pictures of and posts every gruesome thing she can for attention, yet this there is NO evidence whatsoever to prove she went.
Noone should believe she went from her pictures in the Jeep that is more than a Jeep. That was 100% a plushie and slim jims run to walmart.
Sorry if this is samefagging alot of what has been said, I havent read everything quite yet. But her egregious lies about this kind of shit is incredibly infuirating, not only to the poor people who donated for the funeral but also to her mother. Which deserved so much more since she did after all birth, take care of, and put up with this sack of lard posing as a human being.
Thanks for the heads up, anon.
How soon do you figure this thread will start to derail? There’s no way she’s going to be able to keep herself from rageposting tonight.
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yfw you get caught up
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How Josh found Shack #1.
While it's obvious she did not leave her trailer, I'm still not convinced her sister's post is not a troll. For one, her sister hates her. Why would she go out of her way to make Raven feel special or include her in any way? As far as trolling, pretending to be someone at the funeral and outing Gravy for not going seems like a pretty good way to get another freakout rant.
But yeah. Either way she didn't go.
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Forgot about this
She just treats people like utter shit. I genuinely feel bad for him. Everyone in her world is a useful idiot.
I bet Josh’s mom would rather have him on the couch tbh. He seems slow to me. It’s just gross.
Victor is Dorian's father.
Chris was her first husband. She expressed much regret over their relationship in the My Story video quoted in a previous thread.
Andres Perez was her second husband. Her name reverted to Sparks after their divorce >>>/pt/12471
Ryan Cradock was her third husband.
Her name was Diana Dawn Sparks. Sparks was her stepfather's surname. She changed her first name from Diana to Raven after she moved to New Zealand. Her name appears as Raven Diana Sparks on her marriage certificate to Logan.
Whoa, Raven's flubbery wild ride! I'm aghast. Mostly, we anons are sort of…worst scenario, skeptical bitches. To find all of our wild hypotheses of Raven's malfeasance are actually true has sort of blown my fucking mind. This is the milk that was more than milk. Fuck, Ash, this was such a good read. Btw, Ash, we can be pretty decent at lolcow but once you stop providing milk some of us get quite shitty and will accuse pretty much anyone of attention whoring. So the drop was great and we all appreciate it. You did god's work. I know you may have stupidly defended a shit stain, but any person who's a bit naive and has had a toxic person in their life can sympathize. I know I've been dumb enough to support a shit stain. Sometimes you just want to believe the best in people. Whatever. This is gold. I'm so happy.
Anons, I, along with other oldfags, traveled here from mass exodus to mass exodus during the /cgl/ purge. We may have lost our queen, Pixyteri, but let us stop lamenting the end of the Golden Age of Pixyteri. For now we have the Fall of the Shack of Raven. An age of spooky spiders and milky saggy titted cakes of glory. Let our fields be plentiful, fellow farmers. Ash, great prophet. Realize the greatness of the Word (screenshots). Amen.
This thread is a goldmine. So Raven was pissed because his mom was sad she didn’t have a car anymore? So she blocked them?
Kek am I actually reading this right? This is insane.
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Her birthname is Diana Dawn Camerlin, as you said, she adopted her stepfathers name (Sparks) when she went to live with her mom.
Also, Chris was Christopher Rivera and just so Raven can be even more pissed, here's a blast from the past.
Dude, she fucking brags happily how hurt he is. Is pissed off about him having a new girlfriend, but then victorious about her being a farmer (some of us warned that dumb bitch). She was so happy that she left him broken. This is one fucked horrorcow. Fuck.
And Josh…his mother pretty much left him because of Raven. Josh WAS THAT FUCKING WORTH IT?!?! WAS GOTH SAGGING PUSSY WORTH YOUR MOTHER?!!? The irony of Josh yelling at Dorian for his attitude toward his abusive mother, yet he lets a woman fuck over his own mother. A mother who let a fucking 30 year old son crash on her couch. Raven didn't even let her teen son do that. I hated Josh for the way he treated Claudia, but no one deserves Raven, not even his hick ass. The guy worked 16 hours straight, tried his best to take Raven's fatass out for the most embarrassing reasons and still had the nerve to blame him and pin a fake pregnancy on him when it was her fucking fault?!?!
Couchie, bro…bro! What are you doing?! Go back to your poor southern momma. Make up for those poor "lost" strays by taking care of Doja. Sleep on her couch and use your money to repay her for her car instead of feeding an ugly sloth. Dude, you're still young. Young enough for a predator. Go fix your life. There's time! Claudia was so pretty…Your family looked lovely. Fuck, man…
Hmm, I wish she had told you more about the dogs and the cats, that bugged me.
(try not to use emojis here, friendly tip!)
That's actually bad enough, but maybe I'm just a dog lover. And Josh's identity seems to be big on dogs. No wonder he looks dead. She's killed a big part of who he is.
Anything about the small dogs she got or Doja?
Damn this is why every time Raven goes "REEEE IM GETTING OFF THE INTERNET!!!" Secretly I'm afraid she ACTUALLY will. But then I remember all evidence proves she never does.
This milk is gold…
Can hardly wait for her to spin a web of lies to cover her ass on this one, and post a ragevid.
It will be glorious.
The only thing I wish, if there were wishes to be had, was that this whole thing with Ash would go down AFTER she could get the milk about the funeral saga.
Imagine if Raven spilled the tacos to Ash about pocketing the money and not going and she had those screenshots to post too..
Oh well, Ash put up with it for long enough. She deserves a medal.
No. Not at all.
She told me when she got the one cat but that was it.
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Holy shit this bitch is hella manipulative.
She wants to talk about how obsessed we are all the time but she's been obsessed with us the whole time.
She's so focused on herself throughout this whole thing. Did she ever bother to ask how you
I know what you mean, I've had friends who are very similar to Raven but not as malicious as her.
I am glad you got out before she swallowed you whole, don't get me wrong.
It just seriously irks me with this funeral thing. With her whole cryfest I really did have high hopes she would actually give enough fucks to go.
But nope, not Raven.
Whoops, meant >>506908
I think we all need to Q and A with Ash, like we did with Dorian's fiance? I think she's proved enough receipts to correlate her claims. Since we're missing accounts, I bet you know about some pretty milky shit outside of what you've dropped, Ash!
Man, if I ever had a hate boner it would be now. Did Logan find out? Did she complain to you about the porn stuff? Did that happen while she was cheating?>>506921
Understandable and you're a good person. Just know if you did, we know it's lies and it would only reflect badly on Raven. If anything, we're good about not doxxing family members or believing anything about them. No one had anything bad to say about the family photos with Raven which was posted here. They seemed nice. If you're set on not discussing it then that's a good decision, but know that not one person would ever assume or believe anything Raven has said about them. Even if you can vaguely say what she's said about people and not mention who, it would be great to exposing her character. Even provide proof to others who trust her. I know I'm trying to to convince you, but whatever you decide you've done so much. I hope anons have your back from now on. Not as a personal army, but just laying off.
I can't believe this fucking bitch accused Logan of cheating because he watched porn like every dude on the planet, and aired all his dirty laundry, including his particular tastes in porn, when she actually
cheated on him—multiple times, in real life and online.
Also, I hope Josh is aware that this relationship will end the exact same way it began. She will begin talking to some other dude online behind his back, fall madly in love with him, pull away from Josh, air his
dirty laundry to anyone who will listen, slander his name with bullshit accusations about how he rapes and beats her and he's addicted to drugs and weird porn, and then she'll run away with this new man. Wash, rinse, repeat, ad infinitum.
No. Logan doesn’t know. Yes she did mention the pornography addiction. It really made her mad and she made him call his mother and tell her that he had an addiction. I think that is when it started to go downhill. As much as she is online, I doubt the poor guy could even attempt sex with her. She’s lucky he only resorted to visual pleasantries instead of sleeping around.
Two people, I won’t name them, are mutual online friends. She talks badly of his girlfriend (very pretty girl) and gave private information that he trusted her with about their sexuality life. Very wrong in my opinion. And they still back her up. I don’t have the heart to tell them. Recently married happy couple. Good people just mixed with a bad apple.
His family. Sad face- She said his mom was great to her but she really didn’t like her or trust her. She said his mom smelled like dirty diapers and the House was gross and she was too lazy to clean. Called her fat and jealous of raven taking josh away from her. She said his brother is a meth head that works illegal jobs. And that he tried to hit on her during thanksgiving. I don’t know if she said sister, or sister in law, but said something about her being a drug addicted wanna be nurse that has fake teeth and looks like skeletor from he-man. She had nothing nice to say about them. She said josh is better off without them in his life because they brought him down and made him feel less of a man. She stated they reminded her of the family in Texas chainsaw massacre (I’m a horror fan but never seen that film) so I have no clue on what she’s means about that. She says she loves Josh but she feels he isn’t ready for a committed relationship like she expected and that he has to grow up a lot and quit playing video games and work like a husband should.
That’s about all I remember because it was a long conversation after his mom blocked her. I feel like a really cruddy person. I bet they are truly good people.
Don't feel bad. All of this reflects badly on Gravy, not Josh's family. Plus we know she's full of shit, so I don't believe a word she says about them. They're probably nice, normal people.
This ungrateful bitch.
>works illegal jobs
At least he works.
>he has to grow up a lot and quit playing video games and work like a husband should
I fucking can't.
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Gif related - This is how I feel about you right now, Ash.
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this fucking milk
Man, all the narc stuff about isolation was incredibly on point.
Ash, you must know you weren't dealing with a normal person. It's easy to feel like a fool in hindsight, but Raven designs herself to be able to pull in everyone.
And she's only lying about his family to justify her isolation tactics. The projecting is far more telling. We know nothing about his family no matter what Raven says. Kek about the clean house projecting and how she expects Josh to support her fatass. She knew she was getting a guy who just moved out of his mom's house on Raven's whim.
I think one major thing that Gravy refuses to accept about this site is that no one is being shit on for just their looks. It's always their online antics—generally being awful, idiotic, scammy, attention-whorey, and so on. We often wind up picking apart people's looks as a result, but that's not why they're here in the first place. But Raven continually refuses to confront the fact that she is fucking terrible and actually do something about it. For a lot of cows, it's not too late. They're young, they can still change. Sometimes they even have redeeming qualities (gasp), and we can acknowledge them. But Raven is so set in her ways at this point, so far gone, and with so few good qualities (does she even have any?), I just don't see it ever happening for her. She's hopeless.
You know she is sitting in a dark, stank trailer, staring with horrified fascination at the glow from her laptop, screencapping everything
I can’t believe how much time she spends here.
It’s no problem really. I’m sure plenty
Of people on here are actually just like me, whom have been caught in her crosshairs.
I pretty much keep to myself but I have a couple great people in my life and that’s all someone truly needs. It’s too bad Raven couldn’t have seen that as well. If your a good person, you get treated well and rightly so. I think it’s deaperation for her, to have so many people come to get and feel bad for all the things she claims to have been through. They flock to her. Lots of young people especially. I hope she doesn’t rub off on them. She really needs to stop, contemplate what she’s done and what’s wrong with her life, come to terms with it, get much needed help and reinvent herself. She’s bottoming out on all the lies and scams. It can only get her so far.
Oh man. The projection is strong with this one.
>Says mom is lazy, won't clean, house smells<
Is Ravens exact situation now and in the past
>Says brother has a drug addiction<
Is actively looking for oxys
>Says sister is an ugly wannabe<
Raven is an ugly Emily Boo wannabe
>Says Logan cheated on her<
Raven physically and emotionally cheats on him multiple times
I guess we can find the truth in what she says now: anything negative she says is absolutely true but only about herself.
Misogyny caused by extremely low selfesteem.
She hates every woman that is prettier than her (like, every female on the planet) at the same time she tries desperately to copy them in order to receive the same praise as them.
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I found this a bit funny after re-reading
I was just thinking about this while I cleaned up the kitchen, haha.
I don't find any of her boyfriends attractive, looks- or personality-wise, but I am really puzzled as to how she gets them in the first place, and how she manages to keep them ensnared after they break up.
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Her amazing makeup skills?
She sent me that saying you all tear her apart for her looks.
Her make-up has a similar effect to Melisandre’s necklace.
I have to wonder when Josh will see her in all her fat heavy metal Filipino grandma looking glory. I bet she sleeps in 10 layers of make-up trying her best to keep up the facade.
It must be exhausting to be so utterly ugly and fake both on the outside and inside.
Castor oil, bb.>>506920>I guess the guy quit messaging her afterward. She blamed it on Logan
Imagine sleeping with someone, and then finding out this >>506982
is what they look like underneath all those layers of makeup. But yeah, it was probably Logan's fault.
Her first husband was 21 when he married her. He was prob the only 'normal' relationship she had. She said previously she caused the end of that marriage by provoking him to the point she almost got him jailed for 'kidnapping' Dorian when he went to pick him up at school.
Her second husband cheated on her all the time. He was the goffik king that married her on his lunchbreak from a hair saloon job. That was not an healthy relationship either.
Third husband… again… do we need to say anything about Ryan? A glance at him and you can tell he has a mental disability of sorts.
Fourth husband… a 16yo…next.
Josh thought he was getting a internet famous goth girlfriend. Never forget his face at the ticket revelation vid.
It should go without saying, but is not like those online exes like CJ, or real life boyfriends of her earlier life, like the guy who was into zoophilia are making any of us jealous.>>506982
Ah, the marvels of asian genetics.
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Get a stencil! Also Benefit eyebrow powder like this. It has two tones to make it look a little bit more natural.(derailing)
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I don't want to get on Raven's looks since I'm white with a half-filipino daughter who looks more asian than her dad (and is also named Diana so that triggers tf outta me when I see Raven's real name). Aging is natural, but I don't think Raven is doing herself any favors with how she treats her face. Just taking some of the hardware out improves her appearance imo.
Ooooooooh, the rest was pretty expected but this>She had him at her house while Logan was at work
is juicy as it gets.
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Her relationships with husbands Chris, Ryan, and Logan each lasted four to five years.
The story of her relationships on her blog ends with her leaving Andy and hooking up with David.http://web.archive.org/web/20110528081201/http:/raven-official.webs.com:80/updatedinfoaboutme.htm
[select all] as much of it is clear text.
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She picks up the story in this lengthy post from 2011 [spoiler for images of self-inflicted cutting and blood].
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Until very recently Raven's primary account was still listed as a crew member or mod of Goth Boys (I don't recall the exact term).https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1982135005149644&id=306000459429782
Deactivating her primary account has deactivated her community accounts: https://www.facebook.com/Gentle.Giant.Dojahttps://www.facebook.com/gorgeous.gothic.ghouls
I don't think she will return to youtube so soon. She will lay low until people forget what she did, and when she does comes back, she will have a sob story, like Doja dying, being homeless etc so no one comes asking for the money.
As for facebook, she never left. She is just using a account we don't know of.
Also, she has lurked here everyday of her life. Her life has no purpose without us. She is screencapping the shit out of this thread.
There won’t be any wedding or marriage. We already thought the date goal post being moved was a big red flag but now with what Ash has shared its obvious Raven will have to work overtime to keep Josh from bailing. I have a feeling these money scams were part of trying to prove some value to Josh. If she used the fake miscarriage to guilt him, she will now use the dead mom for pity. But its a desperate ploy, you can’t guilt someone into staying
with you for long.
If Josh isn’t a total POS, and he might very well be, seeing Raven using her dead mom just to scam money should have him running for the hills within a month. I can’t imagine a bigger red flag than Raven’s latest stunt to confirm (if he had any doubts) she’s a nasty, lying, manipulative hag who has the morals of a rabid hyena.
I think Josh might be a total POS too, but even if he is, he won’t be sticking it out with Raven, it just may last a little longer. The $800 might have bought her an extra month or two.
I have a feeling Ash was one of the few ppl Raven had to talk to. Raven closing her SM and having next to no friends mean she has no one to rant and rave to besides Josh, so that could hasten the trailer eviction.
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Where did you get your intel? Their shack is gray and white.
Does Josh have scoliosis? His right ribcage has a pronounced hump.
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Your pedo/ephebo is showing Raven.
I don't believe her story about Josh becoming addicted to the meds, being violent for more and getting fired because of them for one second. That's Raven's excuse for asking how to get more for herself. Josh got fired because the accident was his fault and she got addicted to the meds, that's all.
No. They adopted Doja after they moved to the second mobile home which was confirmed to be in Saluda by Autumn's posts looking for transport for Doja.
Prior to that I speculated that they moved to Aiken when Josh posted on Facebook looking for a job there.
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she even liked the slim jim page from her fake profile!
>>506979>I am really puzzled as to how she gets them in the first place, and how she manages to keep them ensnared after they break up.
I think after her first two husbands, whom we rarely hear about, she's learned to target more impressionable men. Those that are stupid, or very young, or in a shitty place in their life such as being longterm unemployed and living on their mum's couch. Narcs do this shit, so they can ensure that someone depends on them. I swear people like Raven can smell vulnerability in a person the way the rest of us can smell cheap plastic perfume on her.
I hope all these guys, as shitty people as they may or may not be in their on right, are able to break free of her, because her actions if they do are going to be hilarious and pathetic at the same time.
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She named her account for a shade of MAC lipstick.
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Is Josh's old account [pic related] still up?>>507114
My bad, I typed "Lilitu" which is the alternate name on the account.
You left out the that we have screen shots of her admitting to scamming people for money to meet online friends.
I don't buy her getting sick of thu h8urz and going offline for a while. Nope, Hagula wants to lay low until this newest issue blows over then she will be back, probably to scam money for Dojas funeral or who the fuck knows. (I can see it, "here Doja, drink this water, don't mind its sweet taste, that's not antifreeze")
If you anons want some sort of relief, unless she snags an ultra wealthy new parasitic host, her golden years will suck. I work long term care welfare cases like her get their room and board, they have to learn pain management because they give you the BAREST of minimum of pain killers and a monthly stipend of $30. (Depends on your state)
She only looks younger because she puts black makeup around all her wrinkles.
Drink up fellow anons, she's going to buy herself a month of breathing room while she lurks here. Her social media addiction will get the better of her and she will be back. Addicts always go back to their drug unless they are really ready, and she's not. Fresh milk for all.
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This screenshot belies her claim that Josh abused her meds and got caught by a random drug test.
That grossed me out so bad. What the fuck is that even about? She didn’t like that he looked at porn, so she made him call his other mommy to confess his sins? If I were Logan’s mother I’d have been like ‘Honey, I don’t give a fuck about the porn, do you see what I mean about this crazy bitch? Please get the fuck away from her.’
Raven is so stunted emotionally. She’s like a ten year old. The whole idea of getting your child bride in trouble with his mommy is so bizarre. She’s out of her mind.
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Light interjection but clock the whipped cream can next to the bed!
And with gravey you know it’s nothing kinky it’s purely her fat ass squirting it into her mouth whilst in bed.
ALSO I’m the anon who found Ryan’s profile ( I wasn’t hard sparky ) and the fact that I now know she seen it and it really annoyed her has made my fucking week!
Ps I’m also the uploader of the putting on makeup screen caps! Soz graven.
She acts like we go to dire lengths to suss out her circumstances, You shit post and dox yourself you fucking Behemoth
We’re not Cicada.
I don't think that anon was questioning Ash. Sounds like they are the op anon (?) and were simply stating there aren't any screenshots to curate for the next thread (which is likely coming up soon due to The Fall Of the Shack of Hagraven).
I think most everyone agrees that the evidence provided is enough to believe Ash about the rest of her interactions.
My statement reiterated what Ash herself said and was, in part, in response to >>507137
who stated, "We have screen shots of her admitting to scamming people." I reread all of the screenshots in an attempt to verify this before I replied.>>507199
Ash, I did some digging into why messages are blocked and marked. While Facebook itself offers no explanation (it appears to be an all purpose error message), you may be able to retrieve the messages by downloading your Facebook Data.https://www.facebook.com/help/community/question/?id=10202365217831296
Would a WK be trying to assist Ash in retrieving the blocked messages?
OP anon generally changes from thread to thread, they’re not static so meh.>>507225
You sound autistic. It will be great if Ash can get the wiped texts off of FB, but she came through regardless. We aren’t CSI Lolcow ffs.
Please do, I literally had to go to bed early to muster up the energy and excitement to read this threads milky goodness
Bless you, Saint Ash
Fingers are crossed that you’ll be able to grab something, sometimes it works and sometimes not. I had the same situation and was able to get part of the texts I wanted as receipts back but not all, which makes no sense.
And good on you for avoiding the obvious shitstirring!
Thanks, Ash! If anyone else has advise for her, make sure to message her instead of putting it on this thread so Raven can't take counter measures. She reads the replies before Ash I'm sure. >>507231
Lay off, it's OP. I'm sure OP is just trying to sort out confirmed vs non-confirmed because Raven can't say Ash is just being a bitter liar with screen shots. The other stuff, Raven will lie about and cry about bullying. No one here thinks Ash is lying, but the only thing that will hold up with the most adamant of defenders are Raven's messages. Who cares about what's confirmed. We got a waterfall of milk here.
Have you forgotten about her "real life friend" Julie-Ann who is most likely the person who bought them groceries in their hour of need? Granted, she started out as an orbiter, but she sent presents to Raven in NZ.
And why is Raven screencapping the threads? They are not going anywhere. Is she so much of a masochist that she preserves them to ruminate on when she is offline?>>507203
That's a standard aerosol can. See it in better lighting >>506449
. I glimpsed the label in another video but have forgotten what it was (alas, it was not bug spray).
Agreed on her naiveté regarding having publicised her own deets. For example, her TradeMe account; she posted it when she was selling belongings to raise money for her trip here.
And she still thinks I write the transcripts manually!
Photos of the conversation we had April 2017https://m.facebook.com/johnnie.hoolio.5
The post is public so you can see everything
Thank you Ash for doing all of this!
I love how she just casually thows in that her and Logan were not together anymore, as if. She just didn't wanna admit she was cheating.
She's truly pathetic. Every guy is "the one" and she falls in "love" after one FB convo. Paaaathetic.
No problem. The first time she and I had a falling out is because she tried sending my bf nude photos of her. She has a hard on for guys with long hair especially goth guys.
I forgave her for that. I shouldnt have.
She has also either deleted or privated all her content in the old youtube channels described in the OP
Those are gone:https://www.youtube.com/user/RavenStarbl00dhttps://www.youtube.com/user/TheSilentmourning
Those have being privated:https://www.youtube.com/user/TheRaven0us1https://www.youtube.com/c/RavensGastricSleeveJourney
Also, some of the newest videos that are gone from her main chanel
Funeral day is now known
Help for Doja
New winners drawn
10k subscriber givaway
2017 year in review
Zaful and Dresslily site FAIL
Doctor Who gifts
How quickly things change
Makeup removers and cleansers review
A small makeup review/Concentrated foundation and blur powder
My makeup collection
We were in a car accident
Basically all the videos regard that giveaway that we called would never happen are gone and the clips about her e-begging for her moms funeral and Doja are gone (proof that she scams her fans), some clips of her hauling things are gone (proof that she takes the money and applies it into futile things), the videos about the car accident also gone (where she blamed it on Josh and got momma couch pissed).
This, farmers, is what I call damage control.
But Raven is TOTS offline, she never visits the farms. Top fucking kek.
That's also what she did when she announced her and Logan were breaking up, when it was immediately clear that she had been talking to Joah (e.g. cheating on Logan at least
emotionally) for months. Seems like it is her go-to rationaliztion. "We were broken up (even though we're living together and he's still supporting my lazy, broken-tailbone ass) so I can do whatever I want even though I am atill married." For that matter, she's STILL married, as far as I know.
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I actually have no idea which photo is first.
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Wtf, girl!!! You forgave her? You don't forgive that. Were you practicing on becoming a Saint? Surely you're anointed as one after all these deets anyways. Man, you're nuts for forgiving her, but we've all been in your shoes.
And fucking kek at this guy just fucking her and leaving. "MY HEART IS BROKEN. HE WAS THE ONE. I WAS READY TO PACK MY BAGS." Uh, hear any of this before? SEE ANY OF THIS BEFORE?! This woman is a real fucking piece of work.
Anyways more deets on how she tried to seduce your bf? I mean obviously, he isn't going to leave you for that thing, but did she just offer? Who does this?! I know…Raven, but man, every time I think the milk has reached it's peak.
Oh good, thanks!
I really wonder what level of panic and rage Hagraven must be right now. She did it to herself and Ash probably wasn't even the only one she messaged on multiple accounts.
Were you at all suspicious as to why she had so many accounts throughout your friendship or only towards the end, Ash?
TheRaven0us1 has not had any videos for as long as I have been the OP since thread #5. After her last round of damage control, the videos on the other two channels were mostly of her pets and had already been uploaded to her main channel.
The associated Google+ accounts are still open.
All of her videos since the end of November are still mirrored on the other site. Can they be downloaded? I am not on a computer to do so.
men not me. Usually I don't bother corrections without sage, but I thought this one mattered.
You don't even have to worry about Logan having romance because it'll eventually happen. What's best is that he has his mom back. Seeing that picture with him and his grandma was great. The healing must be monumental because of the distance. I know there's bank account speculation, but seeing how Raven ran this huge scam, I'm sure Logan isn't giving her much. I mean his mother got reins back I'm guessing.
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I have a couple of those from that list if they're needed.
Do you have to ask anon? Pedophilia. Funny thing is that she falls in "love" with young men, but they're the least likely to take care of her which is what she wants. It would be good if she dated a guy in his 60s that owns a house and is financially secure…however that guy is probably way out of her league. Even if dumb, a 60 year old wouldn't be that naive. >>507353
She better be gone for a long, long time because lolcow is waiting. Justice for Logan and Dorian! Not really, but let's make sure to let this cow know the internet never forgets.
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>>507357>all speculation and lies>so far caps prove everything we suspected
Yes, I was trying to remember where I had saw that same story (it was here >>442478
) and was the guy Dorian told us she had cheated on Logan with prior to Josh (>>442462)
I also have a faint memory of Eddies girlfriend posting either here or on kiwifarms, but could not find it.
But it was all online. So… still waiting on the NZ guy milk.
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She's not on the internet, guyz
And why is she asking people to buy her MORE shit as of yesterday? Raven, use that $800+ you stole and buy it yourself.
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This is publicly available; I am not logged in to Facebook.
More Eddie stuff>>449795>>449805
Found the girlfriend stuff >>452937>>507385
Eddie was american. Ash said she fucked a NZ guy named "Ricky".
Also, blast from past threads, top kek at her having all her exes facebook pages linked so she can stalk them >>404704
Top kek at >>507384
having a picture with a Black Friday t-shirt on.
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Was Raven an active mod of the Goth Boys page when this and the previous pic were posted?
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The last and latest pic of him on Goth Boys.
Also, the actual mod of the page stated that while he is in charge of the Goth Boys page, Raven is still very much apart of it and he gets her approval to post things ( >>507027
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You know the easiest way to tell the diff between a normal person and a toxic psycho? Toxic people have the energy to fight you for hours, days, YEARS. They'll stay up to plot against you. They feel alive and awake when they manipulate. They are unwilling to let go of any slights against them. Slight PL but I've had two narcs I haven't contacted in ten years trying to talk to me now, trying to manipulate again. Shit's draining and enraging. People like Diana/Raven are broken beyond repair.
I feel so sorry for D and Poor Kid, because this bitch is harder to get rid of than herpes. She will never stop talking about them. She will never let go of them. Her hatred of NZ is their saving grace. You need to put as much fucking distance between yourself and pieces of shit like her.
Please stay strong, Ash. DO NOT CONTACT HER EVER AGAIN. I know you know that already but maybe you could use the echo from a friendly stranger. She can't change.
On a more positive note, I am loving this week's episode of Lolcow: Narc Hunter Edition so much. It's so damn vindicating.
It's over, Raven. You'll have to uproot and find a fresh batch of innocents to scam and exploit online. And I think not even your fellow pieces of shit are gonna hang around while you get cornholed by your own damning words and videos.
Another anon mentioned it before but gofundme won't give a damn and there's no real evidence that she didn't go. She also covered her ass by saying that the money would go on bills if she didn't go to the funeral.
On the bright side, she's going to have a hard time coming back after all of this milk.
Good point about scaring people away
. I appreciate where you're coming from. Maybe just a free wix site or something.>>507397
And also good point. I'm a dumb.
This. And it would really be up to the donors to file complaints since they are the victims of said fraud.
In addition to the report pagehttps://support.gofundme.com/hc/en-us/articles/203604694-Reporting-a-GoFundMe
GoFundMe has a guaranteehttps://pages.gofundme.com/guarantee-faq
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I’m sorry guys. I was hoping it would work but it shows nothing she says. She covered her behind really well reporting the conversation. I really wanted everyone to see this proof
The answer on the page linked to >>507225
says that it won't work if you are no longer friends.
Other sites and Facebook community help pages say that messages are blocked when the other user has deactivated or deleted their account or if their account has been suspended. I am still unable to find an official answer from Facebook itself.
She didn't report the conversation. The error message you received is the error message for all situations resulting in messages being blocked. Why Facebook uses that error message has been mystifying and confusing users for years.
The other anon used archive.org (see the OP).
Have you or anyone else downloaded the mirrored videos?
The ones on bitchute.
Does streamable respond to copyright takedowns?
Any reporting should be your own decision and these threads can't be used to organise it, see /rules.
If you personally donated to a GFM, then reporting your concerns with it is effective in my experience. But they run on the back of scams so they aren't going to respond to outsider reports really.
I can't find any info about that. It's easy to use at any rate, let me post some there and also archive them.
I have some of the bitchute vids for sure, not all.
Example - We were in a car accident: https://streamable.com/9kvn3
. Cute but only works for vids under 10 minutes though. Not the ideal solution.
It's not even worth it. It's less than what a minimum wage job brings in a month or a part time job brings in. I mean the fatass paid a little bit of rent while Josh pays video games and beats her up for pills.
Anyways, Ash, no worried about the conversations. The few things that were verified with screen caps were enough and your spilled milk is a gold mine. I believe you and anons suspicions are more than confirmed.
To be one of the multiple flies on Raven's trailer's walls. I wonder if she can even rant to Josh about this stuff because him white knighting her or getting him curious about what's said would force him to read about her DOCUMENTED claims about pills and her fucking men around the time she met/started talking to Josh. Plus, he would see the shit she said about his family. I mean, she must have complained about his family in some way to isolate him. Maybe about how his mother treats him, etc. You know Josh hasn't tried to reach out to his mom for a reason. Raven is fucked and it's beautiful.
Anything else you can remember, Ash? I'm sure you spilled the best stuff, but I've gotten greedy. You've just gotten better with each info drop.
Here, I copy pasta'd it…
Not so much anything juicy that I can remember. It’s been such a long time with so much ranting. It’s hard to wrap my head around it. She did tell me cj messaged her last year saying he was sorry and the reason he did what he did was because he thinks he liked men. She has had a few abortions during her marriage with Ryan because he didn’t want children and she thinks that is why she kept having miscarriages. She blames him for that. Her rape claims were all false. She allowed sex and felt dirty afterwards and one guy she liked had a girlfriend so she claimed rape. And that is how she ended up with a bad reputation in her hometown. She’s very racist and hates most other ethnicities because she wants to be white. She tried to date guys off model mayhem while she was with Ryan. I’m
Not sure if that panned out. She wasn’t originally supposed to be with Josh. There was another older guy in Texas she was going to move in with but he had a 17 year old daughter and she said she didn’t want to compete with that She doesn’t want dogs but said Josh gets depressed and it rubs off on her. Oh! I forgot. His ex (I forget her name), she said she made a fake account of Josh saying he never loved her and that he cheated on her with Raven and said he hated her kid. And that she did that so she and josh would hate each other enough to never speak again. She said a lot of bad things to her. And josh doesn’t know about that. She did tell me that she knew Josh lied about owning his own home and she said he was a mommas boy that wouldn’t get out and get a job so she used her sm following to call him out so he would get a job and a home for her.
That’s all really. Nothing too too bad.
She posted it by accident and we grabbed it.
It is on this playlist https://archive.org/details/RavenJoshua
It's an hour long video of Josh being on the phone with Claudia, screaming, throwing a fit, telling "I did not cheat on you Claudia", and you could her she was in tears.
Raven was casually recording everything (she was still on NZ at that time, they were skyping) while she played around in her facebook.
She doxxed herself a lot in that video, she clearly had no intention on publishing it.
This is even better than the first one! Fuck she cheated on Josh too!!! No wonder she hates sluts and whores, the competition must be unbearable.
If only Josh could believe what this woman did to him. But I'm sure living with her and being with her during this scam, he should know enough. I wonder if he's full blown Stockholm syndrome? And another hilarious example of Raven calling someone fat when she's this huge whale. Poor Claudia. She's so pretty and it must have been devastating thinking Josh said he hated her kid. Raven goes to the jugular and attacks children while crying about bullies. I love to hate this cow.
Yeah. We thought someone from the farms had tipped Claudia, but it was all Ravens doing.
Now I'm thinking if it wasn't really her who posted that video to her moms memorial so she could be overdramatic about it and throw a smoke screen.>>507530
It was already bad when we thought she had posted a private conversation between Josh and his ex.
We hated Josh for how he treated Claudia on that vid.
But knowing that Raven said so much crap to her to make her flip, and make her sound crazy paranoid, and did it without telling Josh, lying to both of them.
When Josh and Raven started talking, he still had pictures with Claudia and her kid on his facebook.
That was prob what Raven needed.
She does not want a boyfriend.
She wants a cuck slave that will do and say as she pleases and will work to provide plushies, slimjims and tacos for her sorry fatass to be laying down sperging on the internet.
In my opinion. I am thinking she may have made things public about him so you all COULD go and find out if he was lying about a house or not. I don’t know. But this is just things she’s told me. A lot of the time I take what she says with a grain of salt and listen to her. And it’s omay to think I could be lying. You all don’t know me. Your just being cautious and I can understand that.
I’m hesitant to talk about it anymore if I find anything else or remember something. I don’t want to have anyone thinking I’m making things up or causing problems. I’m not into that. Sorry if you think that is the case here.
Yeah. Not that Ash is lying, but prob Raven was lying to her.
Raven is known for feeding people false info and lying to her teeth to gain sympathy. I, for instance, don't believe Josh was popping her pills and assaulted her for more. I think she was addicted to it, and wanted a excuse so she could ask you for it. One that you would me sympathetic for.
I don't think Ryan gives a flying fuck for her pregnancies. He does not strike me as the dad type.
I really think the spiel with him were blowjobs and now nudes.
Josh, on the other hand, may fall for the 'you killed my babies' guilt trip. Southern families and all.
Didn't she call her a n*
*r too? She's accused at least two ex's of being racist. Talk about projection.
The hilarious part is right now she is ranting and raving about not being able to trust anyone and how everyone turns on poor Raven. She has no friends and all her family members hate her but never for a second will she think the problem lies with her, it’s everyone else who has problems and is awful. She’s an evil scumbag but also a professional victim.
She puts all her energies into manipulating dumb dudes. It’s a good thing she’s so dumb and shallow she ended up with Josh. If she had any sense she’d try to nail down an older sugar daddy, but ofc sugar daddies want cute, younger girls not suicide girl rejects well past their prime and 70 lbs overweight. Josh was just stupid and vain enough to finally fell into her “get back to USA” trap.
Josh went along with the funeral trip scam, watching her beg for money for a trip knowing damn well they weren’t going anywhere. He’s right there in one of videos
where she’s blathering on about it. He’s also watched her hoard and get rid of pets. I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt but he’s shown himself to be a redneck scumbag. I mean the first big red flag was that he found Raven an human being he wanted to date, but his complicity in her BS makes him typical white trash, not a country boy.
He’s certainly not the kind of evil narcissistic garbage person that Raven is, but he’s a trashy, dumb, lazy redneck who moved in with a lowly grifter just because she thought he was so purdy
I’m glad, it would suck if Raven was using a decent guy but it’s hilarious she’s with a shiftless, broke, chainsmoking redneck with the IQ of warm oatmeal who’s main hobby is video games
I don't know if this makes sense but… Some people just don't understand the internet. I wouldn't be surprised if Josh was just nodding his head to her bullshit while he didn't even know what she was talking about. I know a lot of people who don't even understand how twitter works (and they're 20, not 40) so I can only imagine someone like that being told about lolcow haha.
As we can see (for the millionth time) Raven is extremely manipulating. I think Josh is a POS too but then again I wouldn't be surprised if Raven was actually telling him they're going to the funeral until the last second when her taibone magically started hurting more than even and she asked Josh to stay so he did. I do think he's dumb and not hard to manipulate, especially by someone who has yeeears of experience under her belt.
She might have packed some Slim Jim's, but only to tide her over on their drive to Walmart to spend that sweet sweet GFM cash.
I think what bothers me most (a bold statement) is her capitalizing off of child abuse. She posted tons of videos REEEing and crying about what monsters we were for making fun of her miscarriages. First of all, I'm convinced she lied about the miscarriages with Child Bride and that she stole pictures of from the internet and used them as "proof". Second of all, weens aside, I've never seen anons or Kiwis stoop that low. And yet here we find out that SHE is in fact the one harassing others about their actual deceased child and trolling Josh's ex about hers. And probably countless others.
Not to mention that She knew she couldn't get pregnant during the Ryan era, and then years later blamed another faked miscarriage on her own son because he washed the dishes.
She really does project 100% of everything that comes out of her fat mouth. I used to think she was a piece of shit, but now my eyes have been opened to what a fucking monster she really is.
I said it once, and I'mma say it again. Attention Raven: You. Are. Nasty. And. You. Need. Jesus. And please, screen shot this you hag. Maybe it will start to sink in while you're stewing over it.
Wait did I skip this part or was it too long again…
She blamed her son for a miscarriage because he did the dishes?! Whaa?
Yeah she reckoned when dorian did the dishes he left draino on the plates and didn't rinse them or some shit and then she 'supposedly' had a miscarriage a week later after eating off the plates.
1-probably a lie
And 2-who can't tell if a plate is rinsed properly? Get off your fat ass and do your own dishes if they aren't up to your standard you ugly cow.
Oh OK gotcha, although it's still dumb. It's not a teenager's responsibility to know everything about everything. This is where a responsible parent (e.g. not Raven) steps up to the plate and says "Wait a sec, we should probably redo those because I forgot about the chemicals we used in the sink.
But honestly, at this point I don't think she had a miscarriage anyway; it was just likely a ploy to control and manipulate Logan and Dorian and pit them against each other.
Hell no she didn't have a miscarriage and shame on her for even using a nasty excuse like that. A lot of women have issues with fertility so for her to use that line for the sake of a lie is disgusting.
On top of that, others in the household would have gotten sick as well and I doubt a little residue is enough to cause a miscarriage.
Don't let Josh off so easily. He expressed the desire to physically harm Claudia.>>507714>>507716
Raven had an ectopic pregnancy with Logan, so she has only one tube left. She documented her stay in the hospital with photos and video.>>507737>>507741
In her most recent retelling of the story she says that she blamed him at the time because she was so upset. But she stops short of apologising for blaming him.>>>/pt/467171
>As far as the whole Dorian causing me a miscarriage thing. Way back when I first lost the twins. I've also explained that. I didn't say a hundred percent he did. But, you know, when you go through a loss you always question, you look for answers wherever you can. It's part of the grieving process to try to put an answer to why. How did this happen to me. You try to just look for something in your world that makes sense. And I was reading online different things that could cause it, blah-blah-blah-blah-blah. Wondering if I did something wrong, wondering what the fuck could have happened, cuz I felt so pregnant. Everything was going along swimmingly, and then suddenly they were gone. And it mentioned drain cleaner, poisons, things like that. Well, conveniently right before I lost the babies we had had a stopped up drain. We filled the sink full of drain cleaner, and next thing was Dorian's turn to do dishes. I asked Dorian, did you scrub the sink before you did dishes, did you clean the sink at all? He said, no, he did not. So every dish we were eating off of pretty much was covered in drain cleaner. He didn't even rinse it down. Come a couple days, a week later, whatever, my babies are dead. In my grieving mind it made sense. If you can't understand that, then you're a fucking idiot. End of story as far as that goes as well.
Thanks for clarifying anon. So we can confirm that her last real pregnancy was an ectopic with Logan and that her tubes were singed. Making it extremely unlikely if not impossible for her to get pregnant again?
Now to go back and see how many pregnancies shes fake since. Two it seems: The Draino and the car accident pregnancies. Am I missing any?
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She found out she was pregnant in September 2012 right before their commitment ceremony.https://youtu.be/hBbm5PlsaqQ
Funny she found out she was pregnant “right before the commitment ceremony” guess she thought a fake pregnancy would seal the deal and double the attention for her. She could rub her belly at the ceremony and pretend to be a young, fertile bride and try to distract from the whole mother of a teenager marrying a teenager thing.
Sad she lied to Logan and he believed all this shit. She’s such a vile ugly cunt. Thank god Dorian is the only child that will have to bear the burden of her as a “mother” and that he’s as far away from her as possible
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She says that the doctors told her that she has "scarring on her uterine wall which is what has been giving me my miscarriages" and that her remaining left tube "is really, really bad and most likely not functional…With one tube not functional and scarring on my uterus I can't have IVF, in vitro, I can't try for a baby. Pretty much, I'm done. Sixteen years of trying, and all I wanted was to be a mom again. And now that dream is gone.">>507788
She did not say that they removed her remaining tube.
God her web of lies is so dense it’s mind boggling.
She might of actually had a ectopic only because I can’t imagine she would lie about something that could prevent her from faking future pregnancies..or she just didn’t think it through when she was milking the drama. She had to keep upping the drama with each pregnancy ploy twins, ectopic, sterility, etc..
Makes her lies to Josh about him causing a miscarriage extra hilarious.
If there was ever a case for forced sterilization it’s Raven.
Dorian is 23 now. His birthday is in January, and he is 8 months older than Logan.>>507777
Logan was 16 when they met in February 2012.
She posted photos of the embryonic remains on her wedding website iirc. They might be capped in a previous thread.>>>/pt/467171
>As far as keeping my dead babies in a jar, I was given my babies after my surgeries, my DNC and my ectopic surgery. The doctors did that. They said they always offer the tissue or the baby back to the parents so that you can properly bury your baby. What the fuck is so wrong with that? I got little wax encased blocks with my babies' remains in it to bury. Logan and I had no home of our own. We had nowhere special that we knew our babies would be safe, so therefore we were told just to leave them in the freezer until we knew what to do with them. We had no fucking idea. I'm damn sure you're not gonna throw my babies away. Whether they were alive for long or not, they were still alive, they were in me, they were growing, they were something that could have been. They were children we could have had together. And it was very hard on us to lose those babies for whatever reason. And when we were given their remains, of course we're gonna keep them. We're not gonna just say, oh, this is just the remains of our babies. Pfft, trash. Who the fuck does that? So we were given these two, and they were in a brown bag, sealed in wax, in hospital sterile containers, little little things. And they were left in the freezer until came a time when we had somewhere to bury them. End of story. I don't keep babies in jars, and it's nothing sick or disgusting to be ashamed of. They were my babies for however long they were in my body. And the doctors in New Zealand offer you your returned tissue so that you can bury your babies.
Remember this is from a person who has claimed to have multiple abortions. Holy twins vs. fetal abortion trash? What a dumb shit. I'm not advocating pro-life vs. pro-choice, etc., but the level of convenience for this whore is mind numbing. >>507813
You know, she's got no creativity. Josh felt so bad about my miscarriage and accident! He waited on me hand and foot. Logan did this and that. Imagine being a man in her life and her expecting that treat day in and day out. She often would brag about how Josh would hug her and say he loved her every day and that's what she needs. I wonder if the expiration date on that one will be cycled through quicker. He has half the resources Logan did and is now cut off from his only safety net, his family. I wonder if Josh found out and believed what Raven said about his family and said TO Claudia if he'd stay. Hmmmm. Mysteries of life.
The period that was more than a period
*I apologize for this terrible joke to everyone but the Hag
I wonder if she will continue faking pregnancies into her 50s, 60s, and 70s kek.
Just in case, anon. I'm not too savvy when it comes to data retrieval.
So do anons believe that Raven's disappearance is because to avoid questions about her mom's funeral and to keep the cash or because of Ash's revelations?
Actually doctors don’t give you miscarriage remains so you can “bury it”, that’s just a lie, they only do that with stillbirths (babies past 20 weeks) Medical anon there are usually three routes for when no heartbeat on ultrasound, go home an let it occur naturally, two be given a drug to miscarry at home and down the toilet it goes. The other is a DNC and no one offers “remains” from a dnc. At even 12 weeks you are dealing with something the size of a pea, it’s not some tiny little baby you can see with the naked eye it’s a bunch of expelled tissue. Miscarriages are sad but no one offers to bury them, they are usually referred to as “products of conception” and get sent to pathology or down the drain. Stillbirths are very different and many doctors will offer to let you hold the baby/give you the remains for burial if you want them.
Could you ask a doctor for what’s sucked out during a DNC? I’ve never seen it happen but I guess you could, but as others have said it’s basically just a heavy period.
It’s these lies and her elaborate theater around these “losses” that convince me it’s all just bullshit. She doesn’t act like a woman grieving miscarriages she acts like a woman performing elaborate grotesque theater for online attention and manipulation of partners.
I’m kind of wonder if she didnt put a period in a jar after the car accident so she could yank it off the shelf if Josh shows some backbone. I also wish we could ask her where these precious jar babies from NZ are now. She was so dedicated to the grief theater, but the second she decided she was done with Logan I bet they went in the trash. They were only useful to elicit pity and manipulate Logan with, tho the idea of her unpacking them in her trailer along with her plushies is pretty funny.
Without a doubt, that’s exactly what she has done and had planned all along, she never had any intention of going to El Paso
Ash spilling tea was just an extra bonus but Raven has already pulled her disappearing act with the dead mother scam money before Ash did anything.
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Raven’s purple ass seventies romance novel prose lol.
I hope that Dorian, Logan, LG, hell, even Josh, his family, and Claudia can maybe see this someday and know that there was nothing they could have done differently or better about this pig.
Raven is a shitty garbage creature and you all got sucked up into her orbit. Victims of a seasoned, insane narc who needs a fuckton of supply. I genuinely feel for everyone this bitch has thrown her shit at. Ash, too. What a fucking horror show she is.
At first, she ducked out because of her mom and fantasies of all the Slim Jim’s she could eat while reading the thread and laughing at all the dumbfucks.
Now she’s hiding out because she’s scared. She doesn’t have a clue how to spin this to put her in a less shitty light. The catfishing alone is difficult to explain away, and that’s one of the lesser foul things she’s done to people.
How many times has Raven self posted in here? Creepy just to think about it. She’s definitely become one of the very worst cows I follow.
Did anyone download the "My life so far" video published April 2, 2016? It was posted on one of the channels she has deleted.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf2z1pgC00M
I briefly discussed it in >>>/pt/501975
but regretfully did not download the transcript.
Google reverse image search doesn't even return ultrasound images.
Her name is not on the image she posted.
She necroed the thread herself because she wasn’t getting enough attention.
How many times has she done the same thing in here? Hundreds, I’ll bet.
Has she pretended to be you before?
I almost wish the mods would give you a trip because it would be so easy for Raven to come in here and start stirring shit.
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The list of purchased items was empty when I checked it last week.
Given the fact that Raven has had multiple "miscarriages," the tactful thing is to wait until after the first trimester to announce a pregnancy. However, that would mean Raven can't be a pretty pregnant princess for extra online attention!
And don't you usually get ONE scan in the first trimester (if that)? A doppler is used to detect a heartbeat and then there's blood tests for whatever levels and to make surethat the woman isn't Rh-negative or showing signsof gestational diabetes. So her stories on ultrasounds seems pretty sus.>>507839
The size of a pea? At 12 weeks? Not to blogpost, but that isn't right. I had two abortions cuz i r teh dumb and when waiting for the pill for the medical abortion, I was looking at my file and it could just be the place I went to, but the remains from the first one went into a mass grave. I think a lot of hospitals have a thing with cemeteries where remains from miscarriages go to a mass grave. Some states have it so the parent has to sign over fetal remains to the hospital for final disposition. But you can't take a miscarried fetus home since that's still considered y'know, still human remains/medical waste.
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I totally forgot about this.
Just once. It’s in the screenshots. Basically saying she doesn’t copy her looks but everyone here thinks she does.
I think she does. After she showed me Emily, I checked her YouTube. Raven always did the more classic goth with latex clothing and long black hair. She changed her look drastically. She did resemble Emily quite a bit on the hair and clothing style.
Ohh, wait, so that account was Raven also? I knew ashesanddust was, but thought that second one was actually you there to clear things up.
So… does that mean that RAVEN herself posted that she made Dorian take close up photos of her vagina?
The CinderHella account was also Raven?https://kiwifarms.net/members/cinderhella.6663/https://kiwifarms.net/search/1678327/
The ashesanddust account was created a month after the thread started, but she did not use it until May 2015. Does this mean she had plotted to impersonate you 7 months in advance?https://kiwifarms.net/members/ashesanddust.3954/
The Ally saga ruled. So sad that I didn't save any of those vids, because those vids very milky and shit went south very fast. User I Just Want to See Attachments on KF supposedly has the Ally videos on a hard drive. That was good milk.
Ally was a little shit to Raven the entire time. It was so damn satisfying to watch Raven try and manipulate Ally into behaving the way she wanted to on videos but Ally acted like a teen and was very loud and childish.
I still for the life of me can't understand the logic behind taking in a teenage girl, when Raven supposedly hates "the competition" and she would have raged the entire time the girl was there because Logan would talk to her and maybe laugh with her. The disrespectful little cow! She probably did it for the sympathy points, like with Doja. See? I'm an adoptive mom!
Not only was a super shitty thing to pull on a 16yo girl who had no place to stay, but it was also incredibly stupid on Diana's part to underestimate how difficult it is to raise children. Almost as if, dare I say it, she has no experience in raising children.
Ally was "messy and disrespectful" and even if that was true, and it was unbearable, a good person would still power through it instead of kicking her out, because that's what a good person who genuinely wants to help does. They act responsibly, they compromise, they try and work with what they have. Not that Gravy has an ounce of any of those qualities.
If y'all can stomach the atrocious grammar, this is what Ally's fiance shared on KF about Raven faking her death and the whole Ally drama:
>>Righteo, Hi everyone i am the infamous Rob (Allys fiance').
I plan to tell the story of my history with Miss Raven Sparks.
I met her many moons ago long before she was married to logan.
I met her through logan and my at the time partner knowing each other.
Raven befrieneded both my partner at the time and and myself.
Only she only ever messaged when she needed something like at the time a smoke when her and logan still smoked.
I went to their house a few times and watched Dorian be treated as basically a house elf, the slave not only to Raven but to his friend and to be step daddy Logan.
He was expected to take orders from someone younger than himself.
Anyway we all drifted apart me and my partner at the time split and that was that until……
You may all remember the rants and raves she had about the person who had a nut at her about messaging at ungodly hours of the morning well that person is my ex the mother of my son.
ALthough the relationship between my ex and i is volitile to say the least i still defended her and had one of the many rant and rave videos removed.
Then i didnt hear anything from her for a long time until i hear about her apparent death on Facebook.
I messaged DOrian and logan with my condolences but their responses seemed off so i did a bit of digging and eventually they admitted that the whole thing was a hoax.
I assured them i would keep it quiet and infact helped them keep up the roose of Raven being dead.
During this time Ally and i had gotten alot closer and started a relationship.
Then when Ally ended up homeless i asked Raven if ally could stay there and explained the situation she was fine with it.
As for her saying i am angry at them for 'kicking me out' when i asked Raven if Ally could stay i amde sure to point out that on the days i dont have my son i would be there also she had no issue with this.
In the beginning Ally with no income was expect to provide her own food etc so i did this for her i also gave Raven and Logan money towards power.
They then decided i was no longer welcome and the 'lets control ally' game began.
It started by saying when and where she could and couldnt go (remember at this stage she was just a boarder) then came the offer of a family.
Them knowing full well that it was the one thing ally had always wanted.
Ally had a few issues along the way of this but never wanted to give up as she felt it was her one and only last chance at a family.
And because she didnt feel comfortable she wouldnt mention them to Raven or Logan.
SO instead of seeing my fiance upset and feeling trapped i would go to Raven only to be heavily abused and attacked myself.
Then we get to recent events.
I was sent a message from a 'Cristopher Holbrook' (account is now gone) pointing out about Ravens 'asking for help status'
Ally was here at the time so i mentioned it to her and she was deeply hurt that Raven had gone behind her back and said some pretty nasty lies about her.
And so it began.
The rest im sure you have seen or heard by now if you watch her videos and Allys.
But Raven has now decided to direct her attacks upon me and my family.
So far she has rung my parents and made up lies which they saw straight through.
So that didnt work ….hmmmmm….. what next???
SHe has now filed complaints against me about my son for abuse.
She has never seen or heard me around my son so she would have no idea however it is still lies anyone that knows me and my family and how i parent will be able to tell you that including a Family Court Psychologist.
She has also broken a few laws along the way that are being investigated that i cannot mention due to legal bindings.
Now as you are probably all aware i have stayted right out of this since ally was kicked out of that house.
But now Raven has crossed a line i felt i had to say something.
I know many of Ravens victims and im sure a few of them will be surprised im commenting on here.
Also i only turned 26 on june 2nd.
Ally and i did start dating 2 days before her 16th birthday however we were not sexually intimate untill around christmas time.
The police have already investigated this and closed they case with no charges being laid.
Raven you gave Ally her final warning to collect her gear or you will post the video however now that the police have contacted you and told you they are collecting it tomorrow you still upload the video AFTER the police told you to stop.
So Raven here is your last warning from me LEAVE ME ALLY AND MY FAMILY THE HELL ALONE!!!!!
Whoa. No it wasn’t me. She said it was another girl we were both friends with whom I no longer speak to. 7 whole months. Crazy
She knew I didn’t go on the sites. So it’s possible she figured she was in the clear. fortunately I found out and quit talking to her the second time. But I forgave her again. She said ashes and dust was her. But the other one was someone we both know. Her reasoning was that it was an easy way for her to spy without someone knowing it was her. She apologized and I let it go.
if CinderHella is Raven, then Raven is the origin of that made up 'fact' that she had Dorian take pictures of her vag. Dorian told us himself with LG that this never happened.
Raven is a sick fuck.
Depends on the country how they dispose of products of conception or fetal tissue. A 12 week fetus is about 2 inches, 8 weeks is an inch. They used to have to wait until 8 weeks to preform DNC abortions because they couldn’t be sure it was removed because they were dealing with something so small.
Ultrasounds usually aren’t done in the first trimester because such little detail can be seen, usually only IVF and high risk women get ultrasounds before 12 weeks.
A heartbeat can usually be detected by 7 weeks and a gestational sac seen, sometimes a fetal pole.
No matter what there is nothing visible to the naked eye after a DNC or miscarriage before 12 weeks but a bunch of bloody tissue. At least where I’m at “burial” is only offered to women who experience stillbirths. If doctors felt the same about miscarriages they wouldn’t give cynotec to women to cause a miscarriage at home on the toilet, it would be far too traumatic.
We tell women that Miscarriages during the 1st trimester are very similar to an extremely heavy period plus extra terrible cramps. I’ve never heard of a woman “saving tissue” from a miscarriage unless she suffers from RPL (recurrent pregnancy loss) and is directed to by her doctor to have the tissue tested for genetic issues.
I’ve worked at OBGYN and RE offices for years and Raven was the first person I ever heard of “saving” a miscarriage or asking for the tissue from a DNC to take home.
Of course I was in a big American city, things might be different in other places
catching the same vibe, not going to say why i think it but yeah, watch the replies, i don't think some of these are ash.
ash, you should get to the discord, ask someone to verify you and then ask if you can use a tripcode only for answering questions. there's some fuckery going on.
Not Ash but, interesting. I think I see what you mean
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I was about to ask you about the video "you" said that you had made to prove that she had been online.
Why would she direct people to your blog?
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CinderHella's last post.
Sounds like a good idea. You can always just answer a bunch of questions in one post and add a picture of your fb wall or do a timestamp or whatever.
That would prove it's you and not Raven fucking around. Thanks for all your help!
I wish we had a "cow among us" sound like we do with Ashley the Skeletor. just seeing "rattle rattle" made me kek every time. What sound should Gravybones get?
Be careful with that FB message ash. Sounds like the Hagraven attempting to impersonate a human.
Also, good on you. She is clearly trying to misslead you down to her level. Thank you for protecting your friends.
Kek at Gravy calling herself Gravy. I was hoping that named bothered the shit out of her. Glad to see it does! PS go fuck yourself Gravy!
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Ash verified by facebook post.
I don't even know if that is possible. Can a farmhand tag or name all the posts that came from that IP? Since we know that one belongs to Ash herself?
No because I don't know Raven. I just read her thread.
I've already gotten ahold of her and my identity has been verified. I understand worrying about sock puppets though.
Going on Raven’s terrible stolen ultrasound photos I doubt her shooping abilities, but I could totally see Raven knocking on a trailer down the road and asking them to hold this sign and let her snap a photo for this hilarious online prank.
maybe a quick YouTube or Facebook live thing would be an easier solution
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I'm laughing so hard at the thought of Raven sitting and screaming at the screen for the last few days while playing facebook games on her sock accounts and reading here. Of course with her trusty slim jims.
fuck. actual lol
I thought the saggy tit cake should be next thread's op but this one is just as good.
Good intution, Ash. You're a good person. >>508132
MORE ART AND EDITS FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
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Flap flap it seems we've summoned the Hag
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Raven, come play with us. We have farmville trades and candy crush lives for you.
She / CinderHella also imitated your tendency to use short and sometimes incomplete sentences, to start sentences with "So" and "And", and to conclude paragraphs with a one- or two-word sentence for emphasis.
In the "Ugh" video while she was chatting with Claudia from Logan's account, she bragged to Josh that she pretended to be Logan all the time messaging his mom, and his mom never knew.
How long has she been honing her talent? I envision her as a child forging school notes from both her parents and teachers.
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She named her miscarried twins Ciel and Sebastian after "Black Butler" and her ectopic zygote Miracle.
She then had these plaques made which is even more ridiculous.
I tried to find the pics of their waxed remains, but anons only posted links to Logan's Facebook, and the gallery pages and images from her wedding website are not archived. Apparently she posted the pictures on the Christchurch Brides group, too.
okay what in the hell?
awaken in the night
hearing screams that don't exist
my arms are aching to hold you
thinking of all that i've missed
your name is a moan
drifting softly from my lips
i feel my heart breaking
as i dream of your kiss
is this something
that was never meant to be?
why, oh why,
were you taken away from me?
there is nothing quite like
all the love that i will miss,
in the arms of a child that
does not exist…"
that poem doesn't sound like it was written for an unborn baby, what the fuck! that's like a chick writing to her lover or some shit! she is NASTY holy fuck
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>she is now going by her original name from the US which is Diana Perez
She legally changed her name to Raven Diana Sparks while she was in New Zealand [pic related]. When she moved back to the US she talked about the complications her name change presented in getting a revised Social Security Card and state ID (her US passport bore her previous name, presumably Diana Dawn Sparks as her surname reverted to Sparks from Perez after her divorce >>>/pt/12471
Legally changing her name to Diana Perez in South Carolina would have required a police background check, an appearance before a judge, a sworn affidavit, and several related fees.https://statelaws.findlaw.com/south-carolina-law/how-to-change-your-name-in-south-carolina.htmlhttp://www.scstatehouse.gov/code/t15c049.php
Your name doesn’t revert after a divorce, you have to legally change it all over again back to your maiden name.
Whatever name changes she made in NZ wouldn’t do her any good unless she had them legally changed on her passport. The US federal govt doesn’t care what paperwork you file in other countries about the name you use there, what’s on your US passport is what you name is as far as the USA is concerned. Not surprising she never bothered to change her name in the country where she was actually a citizen.
I have no doubt her laziness and multiple name changes have made life and getting residency/ DL in SC an epic pain in the ass. That’s what sloppy paperwork gets ya.
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Proudly displayed in their home as a reminder to everyone of her victimhood.
The poem is just more proof that all the miscarriage shit is just pure awful, narc theater.
What’s bizarre is that the two bottom tiles have been tacked on to the creepy poem tile. The poem tile has small baby foot prints with dates going back to 2001. So she’s claiming her poison womb has had five victims if I’m counting correctly all the years on there. Logan must have enjoyed seeing her display her lost pregnancies by various other dicks, and the icing on the cake is the first one was probably just a few years after he was born.
Must be weird to think your wife was out fucking random guys while you were still in diapers.
I don't believe that's a mass produced poem. It certainly sounds like some sappy glurge Raven would write. Also disturbing. I don't think she has the faintest understanding of the love a mother has for her child. It sounds more sexual than not.>>508245
I feel like her narcissism is on par with Venus' mother. They're close in age too.
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Reverting one's surname during dissolution of marriage is usually included as part of the court filing. The person(s) who changed their name is given the choice to keep their married name or revert; they cannot change it to a third name.
Of course she was too lazy and too poor to get a new passport with her new name from the US consulate. But the name on her passport didn't matter when she returned to the US. All that mattered was that it was valid. US passports are valid for ten years. Her's must have been close to expiring.
In order to have legally changed her name in New Zealand, she had to have been a citizen or permanent resident.https://www.govt.nz/browse/nz-passports-and-citizenship/changing-your-name/changing-your-own-name/#overview
Changing her name with the SSA was the necessary first step before she could get any other IDs [pic related].https://faq.ssa.gov/ics/support/kbanswer.asp?QuestionID=3749
A lot of women keep their married name after a divorce if they have children so that they all have the same surname. It’s totally up to the woman, but a good portion of divorced women I know didn’t revert back to their maiden name mostly because of their kids.
Ofc Raven doesn’t give a fuck about her son so that wouldn’t factor into her thinking. I don’t want to drag any extra details about Dorian into this but I didnt think he and Raven shared a surname. She’d would have had to file no less than eight surname changes (never mind the first name stuff) if she took her the last names of all her husbands and then reverted back to her maiden name in between marriages. We all know she’s too lazy for that but what a mess her paperwork must be as a result. People like her like to have regular name changes though because it helps them hide their shady past and “start fresh” conning new ppl every few years.
Oh there’s no way that’s anything but pure cringey garbage by Raven. There’s some bad poems printed on mass produced stuff out there but nothing that bad. Seriously that poem would get angry “what the fuck is wrong with you” letters to any company that printed anywhere.
Only Raven would write something that awful and then think it good enough to print up on a wall hanging.
>too lazy and too poor
Ryan's parents paid for her passport to go to New Zealand.
>Her's must have been close to expiring.
Does anyone know when she moved to New Zealand? I know she moved there sometime in 2007. In one of her life story videos she says that she went back to the US with Ryan that November to see her dad before he died the following January. She stayed for 6 months and returned to NZ with Dorian. All on Ryan's parents' dime.
She returned to the US on October 6th last year, so how was her passport not expired?>>508296
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And entire groups were created by victims of her harassment.
I don't think she bothered changing her name when moving to NZ nor moving back to US.
She was Diana Dawn Perez (from her second marriage) when she left US.
In NZ, she changed from Perez to Craddock (from Ryan).
Then back to Sparks when she divorced Ryan.
Then Marshall-Sparks with Logan.
she says that her name reverted to Sparks when she divorced Andres and that her dad was angry that she was using his name.
There is no evidence that she legally changed her name when she married Ryan or Logan. I have never seen her use Cradock. She and Logan hyphenated their names on Facebook, but Facebook does not require proof of name unless the account is reported and suspended for authentic name verification. But I wouldn't be surprised if they did legally hyphenate their names.
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>>Ciel and Sebastian
maybe the twins sensed their mother was a tryhard mall goth weaboo and lost the will to live
in b4 REEEEE LOLCOW IS CELEBRATING MY MISCARRIAGES
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Raven went on benefits just before October 2016 which may be due to Logan being laid-off (the year without Christmas).
She and Logan lied about the date of their separation to hasten their divorce, telling the court that they split in October 2015. Couples are allowed to cohabitate for 5 months out of the required 2-year separation (hence her comment about living together being illegal).
Whoever made those posts scared her enough about getting caught in her lies to ask Ash for advice and reassurance.
But the Customs Service had already informed the benefits department that she had left the country. I wonder if she tried to pursue receiving overseas benefits if she qualified (or by lying in order to qualify)?
tl;dr Raven did not commit benefits fraud unless she did not inform the department of the change in household income when Logan became reemployed in 2017.
if she actually had any miscarriages the fetus was just making the wise choice to vacate the premises.
It’s a good thing Dorian had his grandmother raising him until Raven took him to NZ, because Raven is the type of woman who either accidentally or on purpose would raise a serial killer. She would love all the infamous press attention once they were caught.
She should never be trusted to care for a baby or small child.
I hope Dorian totally dumps some of the goth stuff he picked up from Raven and becomes an Alex P Keaton type guy. It would be awesome if he became super successful and Raven tried hitting him up for money and he could enjoy telling her to get lost.
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These two I though were Ashs, and they are not.>>507192>>507199
Apart from that, nothing sus.
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I perused her chat logs with Cj. She mentioned two Facebook accounts, one of which was /raven.cradock. She told him he could send mail addressed to her as either Sparks or Cradock.
So much of what she said to him was identical to what we heard her say to Josh in the leaked videos [pic related]. Over time she began to mimic his typing style and vocabulary.
They had known each other for four years prior to the beginning of their romance.https://pastebin.com/w0qTA9zs
>>507839>I’m kind of wonder if she didnt put a period in a jar after the car accident so she could yank it off the shelf if Josh shows some backbone.
Raven was incredibly lazy this time around. She claimed she knew
she was pregnant because "all the signs were there". She didn't even bother getting her grubby mitts on a pregnancy test. Literally just "These Slim Jims are making my gut fatter and my period was a couple days late after the car accident. OMG JOSH YOU MADE ME MISCARRY!!!!!!!!!"
Well it's almost impossible for her to have flown without a valid passport so either it wasn't expired or she had it renewed. There's no way Customs would overlook that. If NZ is anything like Australia it's all electronic - so there would be no chance for user error - the computer would've flagged it.
What's possible, but pretty unlikely, is that they saw she was returning to her home country, which doesn't require you to have a valid passport to enter, and let her go. Considering how long she lived in NZ/residency status the odds are super slim.
Either way it's a pretty minor issue in the sea of gravy.
She doesn't seem to mind getting naked any other time.>>508401>I'm diabetic
So Hagraven has diabetes? I don't think she's mentioned taking insulin within the past year, has she?
She uses strategies to capture and manipulate a man. She may be an idiot, but she's not quite as stupid as Vicky and any idiot can be a genius at one specific thing with practice and cultivation. Not to say she's a genius since she uses the same god damn word for word manipulation for every guy. "HE WAS THE ONE! I'VE NEVER FELT THIS WAY ABOUT ANYONE! IT'S JUST SO BLAH BLAH BLAH"
And regarding her fake pregnancy. I don't know why Josh would even feel bad. He didn't want kids and Raven said the same in a video. Plus, maybe it's because he's really uneducated, but a woman in her 40s is more likely than not to have a child with a genetic disorder especially downs syndrome. Imagine Raven and Josh having a downs kid?!
This just demonstrates how dedicated Raven is to these fake pregnancy dramas and how badly she does them. She made some stupid mistakes here that totally show she's lying, including naming tests/units of measurement she'd never have in NZ. So she obviously started reading some pregnancy forums and picked up on a few terms/tests and then stupidly tried to weave them into her story to make it more believable. The only part of the story I believe is the nurse giving her the eyeroll because she was "insisting she was pregnant" when she was not.
I don't want to give her tips so she can make up better stories - but I'll point out two really obvious lies.
If it was ectopic no "sac" would have ever been seen on a scan because it would have been in her fucking tubes, that's the whole definition of a ectopic pregnancy ffs.
But the big things is she posts what are "beta blood test" levels - you don't get four "beta level" tests unless you undergo IVF treatment, you just get a standard yes/no HGC test.
Also those beta test "dates" she posts are all wrong. If you're having those tests done they have to be done every 48 hours to mean anything. What they are looking for is the number/level doubling - not just rising or a particular number. In a healthy pregnancy Beta levels are supposed to double every 48 hours, so no doctor would test her one day apart, then a week apart and then 3 days apart. It's just utter bullshit because she didn't even take the time to read the science and reasoning behind these tests, but she thought it sounded good and added extra authenticity to her lies. The ultimate irony is if she did have an ectopic pregnancy her levels would have skyrocketed - ectopic pregnancies cause explosive rises in HCG levels. In fact having a level that's too high/rises too fast is a sign of ectopic pregnancy, so she got that totally wrong too.
She even adds the caveat that she noticed she missed her period and miscarried "two days later" - that's not how it works!! That's not a miscarriage, at most it would be called a chemical pregnancy because the only way any one ever knows there was even the hint of conception was because of a chemical test showing HCG in the blood. Literally chemical pregnancies are only a term that was invented after at home urine pregnancy tests because that's the only way they are detected. Until at home tests they were just regular periods to every woman.
You can hear her trying out various scenarios to the board to get feedback so that she could then see if they would work online or with doctors/Logan.
It's all just so obviously stupid narc lies.
I did love the delicate modest Raven adding the nurse didn't even let her "cover her nakedness." That was a real special add on Raven to show the board what a sweet, innocent little lady you are.
Kektacular. Pathetic. I usually feel the upmost pity for any person who has trouble getting life saving drugs in the US since we're shit when it comes to covering disadvantaged communities, but fuck if Raven isn't the one person who doesn't deserve free meds. I say this as a person who thinks every human being deserves medical treatment. Raven isn't human however.
The fact that she's drinking sugary alcohol drinks like Tequila Rose, popping opiates, and getting Josh into accidents for fries and shakes shows that she'll probably be getting dialysis soon.
Exactly my thoughts.
The reason she was no longer taking insulin after her surgery was from not being able to eat enough to get a high glucose, therefore no insulin was needed at the time. But she does seem to have a very unhealthy diet consisting of Cereals, pop, alcoholic beverages. And countless others. And your definitely not supposed to drink alcohol while being diabetic. It can cause low sugar. Sorry if I sound like a tyrant here. I’m type 1 since early childhood so I’m pretty adamant on helping people sustain a long life while being diabetic because it is no picinic. But I’m thinking her weight gain, poor diet and no exercise, her diabetes is most likely progressing. Eventually her vision will get worse, neuropathy, renal disease and other countless issues that arise if you manage it poorly. I see it every single day with patients. It’s sad but someone can live a full life if they take care of it properly. I don’t think she will though.
I don't know what "burning the lining of your uterus" even is other than something Raven made up. No one burns uterine linings. Every month a uterine lining is grown and then shed when you have a period, no medical procedure burns the temp tissue in there.
You still have a period even if you don't have tubes, because its just a lining being shed (difference with no tube is that no egg travels into the uterus, so you can't get pregnant. You do however still grow and shed your lining. Basically you've just lost a connecting road btw uterus and ovaries but they still function)
Maybe you meant her tubes were "burnt"? An ectopic usually causes a fallopian tube to rupture, which requires immediate surgery where the doctor will remove it.
That's the odd thing about Raven claiming ectopic pregnancies. 99% of women have no idea they are ectopic until they start feeling intense pain because of a rupture, it's actually terrible dramatic and scary.
Until that awful event happens most women just think they are having a totally normal pregnancy, if they even know they are pregnant yet.
You have to be rushed into surgery because its life threatening. I just can't imagine Raven not giving every drama filled detail about such an event and never shutting up about it - a narc would be in heaven.
You actually can't detect a ectopic with an ultrasound, only sometimes the lack of a sac in the uterus is a tip off but so very few women have scans that early on that its generally only women going thru IVF treatments that get any forewarning a pregnancy could be ectopic due to all the extra tests and monitoring.
Even then it's difficult because at 5 and 6 weeks its hard to see anything on a scan, so not seeing a sac in the uterus could mean ectopic or that it's still too small/not in an easy place to see it with the ultrasound equipment. (Many women uterus and ovaries can get tucked in some weird place making scan difficult, not to mention some uteruses are oddly shaped making scans harder.)
Regarding her pregnancy with Josh: she had at least one period prior. In a video posted on November 29th >>>/pt/469952
>I've got this guy that treats me like I'm the most beautiful woman in the world, with makeup, without makeup, fat, not fat, on my period sick first thing in the morning
Their car accident was December 3rd. In the aftermath video >>>/pt/477542
>I had the same belly that I had when I was pregnant with the twins. Everything was the same. Missed periods, implantation bleeding, nausea.
, plural. She arrived on October 6th. Eight weeks and two days is not enough time for one period and missed periods.>>508442
That was her pregnancy with twins that ended in miscarriage >>507772
. Her (apparently second) ectopic was the following year.>>508443
41 is in perimenopausal range, but natural menopause typically starts closer to age 50 and lasts around 10 years.
Did she undergo endometrial ablation? I don't recall her ever saying that she did, and she would not continue to experience heavy bleeding if she had.
Oh my gosh she's terrible! I bet she would have moved in with him had it been a son instead of a daughter. Drama and shit would have still ensued, but she wouldn't have been as insecure.
That's shitty that he sent her phones and cash ect.
Before you stopped talking, did she say there was any other dudes she had on the side apart from Josh? Like do you think she has other dudes on her list right now if Josh falls through?
this makes sense with Raven and her creepy parent/child views, she sexualizes the relationships.. ew
If it was a son raven would have tried to fuck him, no doubt in my mind
I don't buy that story about her "choosing" not to go or the details about this guy. I mean her being jealous of a daughter sounds totally in line but no way she'd let that stand in the way of living in a "big house" and getting presents. I'm betting the guy was a lot like Josh, but maybe he actually owned a home. She didn't have some rich sugar daddy in Texas, no way. Raven just isn't the type of girl who appeals to a rich sugar daddy. Even one into gothic or SM shit could do far better than her if he was looking to "take care" of some chick and wouldn't need to import goff granny from NZ. I think he just wised up to the trap Raven was setting for him. She thought it was in the bag but it wasn't.
I mean she was ready to jump on a plane to come to a guy who lived on his mom's sofa - it's not like she has standards. It's a beggars can't be choosers situation. But her ego wouldn't allow her to tell you the real story, so she said it was all because of the daughter.
She did record a short video after her surgery >>507801
and posted about it on Facebook.
What strikes me as curious is the fact that this was her second ectopic according to >>508401
, yet both tubes were still intact after her first ectopic and she did not mention her first in the video. She said only that her remaining tube was "really bad and most likely not functional."
She sold them and scammed a person out of one of the phones. That guy invested money and she fucking left security for a hick in a fly invested trailer. I'm happy for the daughter of the Texas John. Poor thing being pulled into Raven's drama while going to university would have been awful! That's already a tough time.
Ash - Interesting that she was so up and ready to leave poor kid for just about anything. Was she sick of him that she needed to leave him for just about anyone or anything? Or was it just a desperate grab for the States and taco bell?
See I wouldn't believe anything Raven said "filming from a hospital" because she can just lie all she wants and we know she's a pathological liar. She could have been in there for hemroids or something to do with her WLS surgery, but privacy laws ensure she can lie her ass off and we only have her lying ass's word believe as to what's actually going on.
Narcs love medical privacy for this reason, it allows them free reign to lie with no medical professional able to say a word. This is why it would have been so easy to fool Logan too. She goes in the hospital for constipation but tells him she lost a baby. Probably why she likes them young and/or dumb, easier to fool with this drama. A older or smarter guy would ask the type of questions, or see some of her charts, and could blow it out of the water.
That would be endometrial ablation.
The condition of the uterus does not cause ectopic pregnancy.
Don't feel like a retard, anon. Knowledge about reproductive health is important to have. But we are quite OT now.
Not only that, she would just get jealous of someone younger and or prettier. Even if said texan's daughter wasn't a daddy's girl she'd simply get jealous that she was younger and in her vicinity. Hell, even if the daughter was older and or ugly, she'd still find reasons as to why she needs to go. She can't stand not being the centre of attention to whoever she's dating hence they aren't allowed to watch porn or already have kids.
Extremely hypocritical because she is a single mother and pursues relationships but won't date someone that has kids of their own.
I tried getting it for my absolutely painful endometriosis, however, I don't have children and even though I don't want any, doctors nope right out giving you. Ablation destroys the uterine lining. I think it's just the functional layer (the one involved in shedding during your period).
Raven never mentioned this. The procedure she got involved her tubes (if what she told Ash is true) and she can't get pregnant, but probably has regular periods. 40 is too young to go through menopause.
Mannn aren't they ALL the 'one that was more than the one'? Like literally every dude is her true love
until she fucks it up somehow or moves onto fresh meat.
I second this. ALSO Raven is a serial bullshitter and even if she ended up with an over weight juggalo who lived in a tree, she'd find a way to boast about it.
Fat guy he's sooo cuddly/tank
Weirdo he's a creative type
There's many more examples I could use but I think you get my drift.
She loves to not only act like they are the one
but also loves to boast about everything and anything, so anon is right, the house probably isn't even that fancy.
No…wait…THIS is the one I was waiting for my whole life. The other one? You mean the one I was talking about in my last video? Oh he tried to rape me and beat me up. He wasn't the one at all.
But THIS one…
After we voiced our skepticism, she posted comparison photos of her pregnant belly >>>/pt/479850
Oh, of course she could have embellished or fabricated the incident. I'm just presenting what she has said. In the first thread is a pic of her in a hospital bed with large blood stains on her compression stockings. And in the video she included an interior laparascope image from her surgery which I did not post.
Her gastrectomy was three years later in 2016 iirc.>>508474
Logan needed a sponsor for his visa since she could not sponsor him. She said that they had one lined up but the arrangement fell through, as noted by a previous anon.>>508465
The dress that was more than a dress was a Lip Service design from about ten years ago, so replacing it would be fairly impossible. But she pushed the point beyond eliciting sympathy from even the most diehard Lippy fanatic by making its loss the focus of two videos.
Sex is just another tool in the narc manipulation box for Raven. It's to be used to get what she wants out of men.
But I could totally see her being into rape fantasies only because she is that dedicated to being a victim in every aspect of her life - even in bed.
Yes, photos of her holding her gut one way and holding her gut another. It's hilarious she thinks those photos show anything but a very sad deluded woman.
That Logan needed a "sponsor' is just mind blowing because Raven is an American citizen. For him to get a greencard she would have just needed a minimum wage job to sponsor him herself, but you can tell how important Logan was to her that she couldn't even been assed to get a job for a few months. Raven work? Never. It's only the glamorous life of e-begging, scams and welfare for Raven.
Yeah, she definitely was not the one who called it quits. It's probably closer to something like: he was a normal older man who had a job and a house. not some super wealthy dude. he found her online via her slut photos and decided to send her money/gifts to get more nudes and attention. he offered her to come live in his house as he was under the impression she would be his personal goff sex kitten (barf). she found out he had a daughter and REEEEd about it so he dumped her crazy ass for the next online ho willing to suck his wrinkly dick.
And she moved onto the next sucker who bought into her shooped nudes aka couchy
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I don't think she was ever pregnant with twins. Here >>507781
is her supposed ultrasound of her "twins" at 9 weeks (I think). And attached is what you get when you google "ultrasound twins 9 weeks".
Now again, I am no medical expert. But as >>507920
said >that only shows one sac, not two as you would have with twins.< I assume the sacs appear as the black space, and yeah, there is only one (that my untrained eye sees).
Given Raven's need to exaggerate, I think it's safe to conclude she was never pregnant with twins. It MIGHT have been one. Maybe.
Na, it wasn't even one. See how the identifying details had to be scribbled out on that scan? See how Raven purposely posted a blurry ultrasound with no patient details? It's because it's just took some random online ultrasound photo and claimed it was hers. She wanted so bad to prove to people her latest fake pregnancy is real but cut out all the details and text that would have shown it was her scan and not some random woman's? Sure, sure.
Raven was doing fake pregnancy dramas like most people celebrate birthdays, it's a once a year kind of performance for her. They are usually spurred by something at home (partner not paying enough attention, fighting and threats of break up or simply needed some online drama in her life)
She follows the narc fake pregnancy drama script like a pro every single time. I'm sure some people might give her the benefit of the doubt and think she really did have a loss at some point, but not me. The only thing I would believe is that she had two abortions while she was with Ryan, that sounds about right. (Also Ryan didn't force her to get any abortions, it was just as much her decision because child rearing is hard and thankless, but fake pregnancy drama is easy and gets you attention/pity.)
Depends on the doctor and region. Fetus is the correct term but baby is used to make it easily understandable to all women.
Weirdly enough the pro-life fanatics hate anyone using the term embryo or fetus, even though that’s exactly what you have at 8 weeks. A baby technically has to be out of the womb. It goes embryo, then after 8 weeks it’s a fetus and when it’s born it’s a baby. There’s a push to have two day old embryos in Petri dishes called “babies” by the same people.
You're probably right. Which makes it even funnier that she faked both and used an ultrasound showing one baby and not twins kek. She has all the time in the world to research and she still can't get this shit right. Or even remotely close. >>508549
Ya idk I just wanted one showing the two sacks vs the one sack she showed.
I think Anon meant that it was bullshit that he stopped being nice to her in 2013 since she got married in 2014, not that it was bullshit she said that or that your screencaps are BS.
She was just per-emptively throwing him under the bus, like she did with Josh. Just in case.
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Gravy confirmed for bodice ripper reader
she wants every relationship to be like Sweet Savage Love shit
OT it is a very expensive nightmare for people who work or own businesses. Not so much for a broke leech like Raven. The irony is broke jobless ppl are some of the few that can get free healthcare via Medicaid. I’m so glad Raven’s documents and names are such a mess that she hasn’t been able to leech here just yet.
It’s also why her leaving NZ is so fucking hilarious and shows how stupid she is. For a lazy bint who doesn’t work only maybe Sweden would be better choice than NZ. She could have sat on her lazy ass gotten free healthcare, subsidized housing and collected decent cash welfare benefits. But instead she left and came to SC where a lazy bint like her can easily end up on the streets and there is no generous social safety net like NZ. But she gets to shop at Wal-Mart with her e-begging money lol!
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She announced at the end of February in >>>/pt/490850
that she had gotten her state ID.
Now that she has her ID and has established residency, she needs to apply for Medicaid.https://www.benefits.gov/benefits/benefit-details/5941https://www.scdhhs.gov/Getting-Started
Her hospital bills from their car accident were most likely covered by MIAP.https://www.scdhhs.gov/eligibility-groups/medically-indigent-assistance-program-miap
She is even more despicable for ebegging because they have not signed on for benefits. Their power bill would be a fraction of what it is if they utilized South Carolina Low Income Home Energy Assistance (LIHEAP). They could have free phone and internet service through the South Carolina LIFELINE Program. Julie-Ann wouldn't have to feed them if they received SNAP.
Now that we know she was on benefits in New Zealand until she left, she cannot claim that signing on is beneath her or embarrassing.
But apparently she would rather validate her victimhood by exploiting her viewers' finite resources and goodwill instead.
I can't decide if she is more of a cunt or an idiot.
Plot twist: They are raking in the free assistance programs and she is greedily ebegging anyway, in which case she is both a cunt and an idiot.
This. Although not all states opted for Medicaid Expansion under the Affordable Care Act or provide Medicaid to people solely for being poor (people must also be pregnant, disabled, or a caregiver to qualify). South Carolina did not opt in, but their program encourages everyone in need to apply.
South Carolina does not offer cash welfare to solely indigent adults, so at least she can't buy more plush unicorns and Tequila Rose on the tax payers' dime.
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Aaah I missed that particular development, thanks. She's still going to have a hard time getting benefits though. SC did not expand its medicaid coverage, and without a documented disability, cancer or minor children that's going to be a tough road for the hag.
South Carolina has an eligibility form you can fill out, so I did. It really only asks your name, age, number of children and on her own and with no income, she doesn't even qualify for SNAP benefits. Two able bodied adults with no kids don't usually, not in my state and not in SC. In my state, you can get ebt for yourself as an adult only if you have a job that pays practically nothing and even then you get like $64 a month. Certainly no cash benefits either, they hardly even give them to single moms much less dried up goffs who should be working a fucking job.
Like I said in >>508608
, their program encourages everyone in need to apply. Her diabetes may tip the scale as a chronic condition or at least qualify her for subsidized prescriptions under their prescription program.
Together, she and Josh would probably qualify for SNAP. SC does not require recipients to be pregnant or have minor children.https://scmapp.sc.gov/popups/BenefitsInformation.aspx#FoodStampFAQ
I used a different eligibility assessment site and gave them a combined gross household income of $1200, and they qualified for SNAP and LIHEAP. Their eligibility for Medicaid could not be determined with the info provided. People who qualify for SNAP and/or Medicaid are eligible for LIFELINE.
But we both know that our efforts here amount to no more than an intellectual exercise. Unless it is necessary to satisfy some whim, being a responsible adult is simply not one of her pursuits.