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>has been on a sluthating tirade recently even though she dresses like one.>will say she doesn't dress like this normally for everyday life, but has admitted that internet is her normal everyday life, and she always dresses like that online>has made her childbride husband make videos too just backing up>speaking of childbride husband, caught him watching porn and almost ended the relationship over it, because she hates porn>and he's been laid off>more buying useless shit>more complaining about how expensive everything is in nz>also btw halloween is horrible in nz and how dare they don't celebrate the same way as america>they've moved house recently. their new house is already a mess. she blames her son and childbride, but you can see so much of her shit in the background everywhere.>she still can't work because of her tailbone. she can lift weights at her ex husband's gym tho.>also she's "legally blind" but she can drive a car.>A CHALLENGER APPEARS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1ReO_wMhYE>but raven is too busy to deal with that because her cat had kittens and she's trying to transform her yt into a pet channel or something>oh yeah also ppl are already putting her on the defencive about kittens>also she's 40 and still hates preppy people like some sort of emo middle school kid.
EDIT: DROPPED MY SUBJECT LINE. BABBY'S FIRST FIRST POST.
What gets me is how she says she has changed, but still has a habit of blowing up at commenters for minor things and reposting old videos that would get her a lot of attention. Recently she reposted her "My life so far" video that was originally posted on a side account. The side account /only/ has this video. Now that this channel has become more popular, of course she decides to migrate it over.
Also, three days after she posted her videos about how she changed, she starts back up about Joshua Moon of Kiwifarms. That didn't take long…https://www.facebook.com/Official.Raven.Sparks/posts/1803560589885582
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>I don't speak about highly personal stuff online and I don't talk about my marriage (any bad stuff) unless I'm weeding out the spies because we all know they can't control themselves if they think they have info
>reposts a video that's over an hour long about her abuse history, one that her aunt supposedly said she shouldn't make
>Oh and don't forget when she tells the internet that she got pissy at Logan for watching porn
>>322050>I don't speak about highly personal stuff online and I don't talk about my marriage (any bad stuff) unless I'm weeding out the spies because we all know they can't control themselves if they think they have info
lol does she really think she's so important that people are fake friending her to get info, or that it's even necessary to do that when she spills every detail of her life online?
unwarranted self importance: that's so raven!
LOL, Logan's such a beta cuck. His beloved wife is sitting on her ass all day, talking to other guys online, posting half-naked – oh, I mean "weight loss progress" photos – online and hanging out (cough cough
fucking) her ex husband. Meanwhile Logan is working himself ragged to support this leech and he can't even watch porn!! And he stays with her!!
Dumbest. Beta. Ever. Or maybe he gets off on being a pathetic cuck.
This reminds me of a therapy session, she needs to put the camera and tell this shit to a licensed therapist.
This is not the kind of shit you put on a public forum, she's ridiculous.
she reckons she doesn't have the money for her, Logan and Dorian to move back to the US and if they did Logan wouldn't have any permanent status there and be unable to get a job.>>322318>>322329
I don't think therapists get paid enough to sit and pretend to care about people like Raven and the imaginary issues they create. Raven wouldn't come back for a second session because the therapist won't asspat her. Raven believes she's awesome just the way she is, the issue is everyone else and other people make her act the way she does.
You'd be surprised. Therapists can actually get quite expensive. It depends largely on the system they're working within and their credentials though; the more qualifications they have, the more expensive they can get and people who have advanced degrees are likely to cost more than more general counselors since their expertise is more specialized and they have to make up the cost of their education.
On the other hand, if you compare cost between a variety of different therapists in Christchurch (where she used to live, I don't know if she still does), it runs far cheaper than in the US. I wish my therapy was that cheap.http://www.talkingtherapy.co.nz/info-for-clients/fees-subsidieshttp://www.lucidpsychotherapy.co.nz/fees.htmlhttp://hypnotherapy-christchurch.co.nz/index.php/frequently-asked-questions/
As for therapists kissing Raven's ass, cost is irrelevant. What's more relevant in that field is ethics. If a client is engaging in behavior that is harmful to themselves or others, and they aren't doing anything to improve the situation, a therapist very well may be up front about the situation and tell the client they're making shit worse themselves. It's not everyone's style but some can be quite blunt, mine is at times. Part of why I like mine, means she's being honest and straight with me. If they're not enabling their clients and their destructive behavior, it's not so much about the pay as it is about their training and their awareness of the dangers of enabling. After all, if a professional enables a client and the client continues to do something unethical or dangerous with the professional's full knowledge, then they are partially responsible as well. It's one of the mentalities that's often drilled into people's heads when they go to school for that kind of thing.
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Still going on about Emily Boo. Acts like she's posting hate videos. She isn't. It's a single video with a very short snippet that references Raven, that's it.
This is the video she's complaining about (section starts at 1:56, lasts like 23 fucking seconds. No really.):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATseN0rYQxM
Because she schedules all of her videos. For whatever fucking reason. Which is why her videos are never consistent with her day to day life and videos were being put up while she filmed in their old house well after they had moved.
From what I've read before, NZ is super proud of growing their own and supplying their own. And is she really complaining about cheese? When the cheese is actually better than her glorious processed cheese. And I hate to break it to her but no ones food looks like their adverts. And it's apparent that she doesn't understand inflation either, not to mention Wendy's isn't all that cheap in the US (aside from $1 menu) but she wouldn't know that because she believes the US is still living in 1992 where gas is 87 cents and working a $7.50 per hour job for 30 hours a week is super good and can sustain a whole family of 3 and bills, high class even! She could buy ALL the Monster High dolls she wants then and other useless shit! She can go out and throw money around to people because of how rich she would be!
The TL;DW version is that she's complaining the cheese is different from the original recipe, the bacon is soggy, and the whole thing just looks pitiful and sad. This despite the fact that big international chains frequently change their recipe depending on the country in order to use local ingredients instead of shipping them from the same manufacturers the US versions get. Shipping that stuff to New Zealand for a handful of chains when it's not something that's routinely eaten there would be pretty expensive, so it makes sense that the owners of those restaurants would want to stick to something more local. Plus as >>322664
said, Kiwis and Aussies are pretty proud of having great local food.
The image she chose makes it seem a lot more serious than it really is. She's literally just whining that it's not like the burgers in America, though she doesn't directly state it. And says that they suck at customer service and that the managers pulled the security footage to "see if she wants free food". I seriously doubt that even happened. She has a major persecution complex.
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Such change. Totally not escalating by cross posting across multiple Facebook pages with thousands of followers, even though Emily only made a passing reference in a single video that could have been about anyone. She's totally prepared to live and let live, she's not stirring shit up herself anymore.
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"Here's an unedited photo of my saggy body guys but if any other girl did this then they're all sluts!"
They're only sluts if they look good.
she knows she is unappealing, she flaunts in hopes that her "fans" will praise her. Her confidence is a false, the only identity she has is her online presence (and audience.)
Raven you look retarded, stop that.
It's Emily's fault for starting it though! I mean sure the "someone whose name starts with D who lives far away" could've been Dan from Ohio, or Dave from Vancouver, but no, Raven knows that it's actually about her because it's always about her and she clearly still feels the need to keep tabs on Emily. But no it's Emily that's starting drama lol.
I love when cows start up new channels and new identities as an attempt to escape drama without actually changing things about themselves. Sure, go out and improve and then come back under a new channel, why not, but just scrapping one identity for another in an attempt to evade h8turz isn't going to do anything if you're going to keep starting shit with people for no reason.>>322900
not to mention the pile of filth to our left of the bed. This is a total lolcow thing too, taking selfies in the mirror without cleaning their house first. Raven does it, Sindy does it, Pixy did it, half the girls on the lolita outfits post comms did it back in the day, and guess what bitches. It's not kawaii. Clean yr house first before you take selfies.
>You are ablebodied
bbbbbut her taaaaaaaaaillllbooooone! kek.
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fucking hell her intros take 5 minutes because she whines about camera angles, lighting, and all these random excuses no one gives a fuck about. in every video
. you'd think someone making videos this long and not getting anywhere would gather it's because they have to be marginally entertaining
Also five minutes about her makeup and what she's wearing like bitch we can see you, we know what your makeup looks like.
And about how hard it is to do makeup when you're "legally blind" (but still can see well enough to drive…? lol ok). I bet those cheap costume party contact lenses aren't doing her any favours tho.
The only goth guy she dated was her 2nd husband. The rest are weird white/Hispanic guys. She says she isn't in love with him but he was the one she had a lot in common while she has nothing in common with Logan.
Also is the one she cheated on with some ugly guy because she thought he would cheat first.
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this displays more than anything I've seen how raven is so obsessed with an illusion of 'style' and image. She talks about 'goth'/'ghetto' as if they're real tangible concepts on par with religious or spiritual movements. >1st husband: 'was attractive at first…'>'this guy tried to be goth like me but couldn't and just looks like a jerk'>'my ex is THE EXACT SAME AS ME because we wear the same clothes'
raven is cow because I've never come across a someone with so little depth.
She's worse than ForeverKailyn tbh. Fat, incredibly shallow and cares more about buying shit than anything. At least Kailyn doesn't make 40 minute long videos complaining about how she's such a victim of everyone. >>330955
Yeah I wonder what Logan thinks about her still posting so many exes' photos and fawning over "goth boys". Sadly we'll never know unless he leaves her because whenever we see or hear from him she's got her hand up his ass.
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>>331180>got authorities involved and kept him away from her as best as they could
In one of the videos she has outlining their story she mentioned police coming to pick him up from her house and warning her to not contact him, family members coming and getting his things while looking disgusted at her, him sneaking phone calls to her on friends phones and sneaking out and walking at night in the rain to go to her house. She let this child walk in the rain at night to her house all for some underage dick. If that were my kid I'd fucking despise her. I wonder how they've come to accept her. Maybe it's something like the Vicky Shingles thing where they sort of realized that she's just actually
retarded so they just let her be.
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that is outrageous
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I'm betting the cost of this shirt would buy her a bit of food for her family.
Saving the little money you have is more important than a doctor who t-shirt Raven, this is basic adult stuff. You guys need a chaperone.
I can get saving money and wanting to splurge every now and then, but Raven is fucking irresponsible as hell. If she were really desperate for money so her family could eat, she wouldn't be spending it on this shit every fucking week.
. "Treat yourself" is supposed to apply to once in a blue moon, not weekly.
God damnit, Raven! LEARN SOME RESPONSIBILITY! You don't really give a shit about your financial situation one way or another.
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Look at her bed… ugh.
What a filthy bitch.
If none of it bothers her then she's become used/accustomed to it out of pure laziness.
Exactly anon. Most people that "treat themselves" are those that work their asses off and really deserve a little something something.
Raven doesn't work, she couldn't possibly understand the meaning of "treating yourself". She thinks she's entitled to shit by merely existing.
New World is a rip off supermarket anyway though.
The Lewis Road Creamery milk IS expensive, but there are other, MUCH CHEAPER alternatives, and are really only meant as a treat - it's so damn rich, especially the chocolate one.
No one goes to the supermarket for towels.
Most of the shit she is showing is imported so WILL be expensive. And others are ~organic~. Does she think that if I was to go to the US or Canada or where the fuck ever and expect to be able to find Vegemite (gross) the same price we have it here?
I feel like she's just making shit excuses to how poor she is.
I could feed two adults and a child decent meals with $100-120 a week on an "expensive" shopping trip.
Exactly. And to so desperately prove that she's right about how expensive and a shithole NZ is.
At one point, before they moved, she was bitching about how Logan lost his job, yet again, and how poor they were and they wouldn't have any money for groceries and asked people for some ideas on cheap meals and plenty of people commented and told her lots of ideas for recipes and even stores for her to go in but of course in typical Raven fashion, she got pissy and claimed that Logan was super picky and wouldn't eat any of what they suggested or this/that was too expensive (which wasn't), just basically trying to make up excuses as to not wanting to either actually cook or to not have junk food for once.
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She's legit retarded. Imported "specialty" foods tend to be more expensive.
She could eat cheap and probably lose her goth flab if she started to eat and cook with what new zealand has naturally. Seasonal fruit and veg, the best fresh lamb and beef, incredible seafood and polynesian cuisine.
But I guess that's hard when your food has to be drowned in american plastic cheese and not take more than 2 minutes to make.
Thanks for providing some insight into what NZ is really like w/r/t groceries, anon. Just further goes to prove that Raven is playing victim.>>332769
It's all gross snack foods too. No wonder she's fat. Snacks or a can of pop is fantastic for a treat, but when it's all you eat, or cover everything in cheese, then of course you're going to pack on the pounds, and also appreciate snacks less.
No problem, I just feel like I had to explain how bad her video is and why she is stupid.>>332954
Those Lucky Charms she looks at cost the equivalent of $10 USD, to be honest though anything that isn't NZ-made is much more expensive. My old favourite Revlon foundation works out to be around $33 USD here after conversion. I'm better off spending my money on high end makeup from the States now.
Regardless, you actually NEED food and she is definitely looking at all the $$$ stuff.
also lol @ fat people in skeleton shirts. always.
sage cos this is probably a childish thing to laugh about.
I had a personal cow years ago who was a huge (lol) fan of the skeleton t-shirts, and was also a bit gargantuan. So every time I see a fat person on skelly print, it's like what big fat like are you trying to tell people. Also skeleton print is just tacky tbh.>>333955
I think she does delete non-asspatting comments. Or maybe she's got it so she's got to approve comments before they go up. I did that years ago for a brief stint on youtube with the intention of being able to personally respond to each one, but then gave up on yt altogether in favour of real life. I don't think that's what she's going for tho. Like I seriously think she just filters out anything critical and only lets good stuff go through in hopes that the rest of us will see how right she is.>>333954
Video embedded for ppl who don't want to go look for it on youtube.
Remember how she was bitching about not being able to afford a nice meal or even potatoes for christmas dinner? Nice that she can afford shit from dresslily.
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here's some cankles to atone for my grave sin.
how much you wanna bet she complains about blisters soon?
Raven would probably be jealous of any girl Dorian brings home tbh and sabotage all of his relationships. That's the sort of person she is.
I like how she says that she didn't zip the boots up all the way "for the video" when it's clear that her calves are just too thick for them and she needs to loosen the lacing. Her calves are like… spilling over the top of the boot, which is bizarre looking.>>334104
Dorian is pretty cute, even though he has similar features to his mother. How old is he exactly? I feel like his style of dress makes him seem like he's still in highschool, but he has quite a few tattoos to be that young. Hopefully he'll grow up and move out/away from his mother in the near future. I can't imagine his current living situation would bode well for socializing if he was 20-something.
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They fit, I SWEAR.
Holy kek. I'm surprised she has any circulation going to her feet with how tight those are. That's a good way to get bloodclots Raven. You're too old to not worry about that sort of thing now.>>334104>>334559
Dorian's fb profile says he's attending college so he's probably in his early 20's by now. Though honestly, do you think a woman like Raven wouldn't let her teenaged child get tattoos?
To be fair, she's also lazy and won't work, although it wouldn't surprise me if she's on every bit of welfare she can get her hands on (and probably encourages Dorian to do the same), so it's not like she sets the greatest example for him. She's really in no place to be calling anyone lazy, especially someone she raised.
I hope he actually is at college and can GTFO that environment. Logan too.
>>336380>she lost her wedding ring because of how much weight she's lost it just slipped off
right? no one's asking, no one cares, she just wants an excuse to make videos about pointless shit
If you want a texture to it then sure, leave like 1 or 2 unpeeled. But since she uses potatoes with a barely there peel, it doesn't matter too much.
I think people keep forgetting she has diabetes. I'm surprised she hasn't been put in a diabetic coma from all the crap she stuffs in her face.
The skin's got the most nutritional value in the potato.
It's probably the best nutrition she gets just in general since she seems to have a thing about junk food tbh.
Just let her leave the skins on.
I'm just glad she can finally afford potatoes! Was worried she might starve or something. :^)
top kek anon, maybe she will also be able to afford beans and rice! She's simply wasting away :^)
Also sage for OT but I also leave most of the peels on when I make mash, I feel like it gives it more texture that way, and it's more nutritional! I also tend to add diced onions sautéed in garlic and butter for a bit more flavor. I'm sorry for continuing the potato talk, I just like talking about cooking.
well after that whole Christmas video in which she explained how the holiday wasn't fun for her on account of all the undue excessive hardship such as not being able to afford potatoes, i just got concerned kek. :^)
i actually really don't like potatoes. my bf makes a good mash, probs because he uses like half a stick of butter, and one of my cousins does as well, but otherwise all potato products just seem icky and gritty to me. so i woulnd't even know what a good mashed potato recipe looked like tbh.
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Oh hey, it's that jar of garlic she put her raw egg covered fork into! Yummy Mashed potatoes, Raven.
Y'all making me crave mashed potatoes.
Has she said anything about what she is going to do with the ton of loose skin she has (binge watched her "surgery channel" and she said her neck flaps in the wind)? Wouldn't the tattoos make it quite hard to fix it with surgery without it looking like a messy jigsaw puzzle?
That's what I was saying. I think in one part she avoided adding something that has a lot of sugar (I know she mentioned) and then she goes and adds TONS of butter, heavy cream and what not. As much as potatoes are a veg they are also high in calories. Eating potatoe and a carrot is not the same.
At one part she says something along the lines of not using too much butter and then later she goes and adds another huge amount. Bitch is crazy.
I'm kinda new here so I just wanna say how I'm baffled with her whining she doesn't have money for food but then goes and buys expensive junk food to "taste test". Like who the fuck wants her to taste test and who the fuck cares? Jesus.
I think maybe because "giving up sugar" is like the main fad diet thing now. I've known a few people who will give up sugar (because it's "addictive like crack" and is the only thing making people unhealthy) and will do everything short from shout it from the rooftops that they've done so and how GREAT everything is now.
To be fair, american foods are loaded with the stuff, and you should just in general be careful what you eat, but having a can of pop once in a while isn't going to automatically make you obese fatty, and I think a lot of people on the anti-sugar bandwagon are secretly miserable because they can't enjoy nearly as many foods now.
Except Raven hasn't properly given up sugar even judging from her grocery tour/trying various sugary drinks videos.
A lot of white trash people think potato (or corn, depending on where you're from) is a proper substitute for veg too, so this doesn't surprise me. Raven is white trash. >I'm kinda new here so I just wanna say how I'm baffled with her whining she doesn't have money for food but then goes and buys expensive junk food to "taste test".
No, I think your sentiment is echoed 100x on this board. Don't even worry about it.
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"I'm too poor to buy food but look at this dress that I bought that I'll never wear. Give it to someone else who will wear it?! No! I'm too selfish!"
"No, I'm selfish."
Yes, yes you are Raven. I'm glad you can admit it.
"I won't wear this dress but I'm gonna buy it anyway."
fuk m8 i'm about to have a fit from all the stupid she posts, coming from someone who can afford a nice new dress once in a while (and food too lol) but would never consider dropping money on something i wasn't even planning in wearing.
It's such a fug something too. Where to even begin. The print? The cut? The cheap laceup detail? not to mention the person in it. I can understand not wearing it because it is hideous, but why even buy it in the first place? Why does this dress even exist?
I just cannot anymore. There is too much why to process in all of this.
The fact that this amount of tackiness exists on one garment, and she bought it.
The fact that she admits she won't wear it, but she bought it anyway.
The fact that she complains about having trouble affording basic pantry staples like potatoes, but she bought a dress that she admits she will not wear.
To me, he looks like he's just thismuchshort
of a genuine, homegrown retard that would be lost if he didn't have Raven to tell him what to do, went to eat, went to go to bed, etc. He will either outgrow that, or she will get bored and finally dump him for her ex. I mean look at him: He's rapidly losing his looks, and we all know how shallow she is.
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"Don't tell me how to save money cause we've done everything already! We don't have food but it's okay because we're used to going hungry. But hey look at this new dress I just bought but willingly admit that I'll never wear!"
This is so dumb. I'm from New Zealand and you get about $300+ a week for welfare, more if you're a single Mum (assuming he's under 18.) All you need to do is prove you have no income with some bank statements. For gods sake, we have state housing. The Government can pay your rent, Raven.
And phone bills aren't that bad. It's about $20 for a basic plan (100 minutes, unlimited texts, 500mb) and you can get cheaper than that.
There's actually so many people in poverty in New Zealand. This annoys me that she's saying there's no help.
Adding to this, you can get additional temporary support if your partners pay isn't high enough for a few months, and you can keep renewing this.
We don't have food stamps, but welfare gives you a community services card which basically saves you a lot on other stuff. Medical bills are almost free, discounts, etc.
He looks so damn over it here.
I feel bad for him having a camera in his face constantly just so this hot topic clearance bin can prove to the internet that she "totally has a hot gawf husband!!!"
She filmed their date night which is supposed to be a special thing for couples ffs, especially since she says they can never afford to go out together. The fuck can't she just do something without filming it for once?
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More dresses she's bought but still can't afford potatoes. But this time she's going to rip up the dress and use it on her dolls that look awful and never sell!
I'm not sure if her friend is slow or just nervous to be on camera. Like if it was nerves than it was shitty of Raven to force the camera on her, but if she's, like, slow then I worry about Raven trying to take advantage. Raven even prefaced her video with "oh I don't think this friend knows what she's doing" (like wtf? why would you say that about your friend?). And of course Raven chooses to have a friend who isn't "hotter" than she is. Not trying to be mean or anything though, she just seems the sort to choose people who aren't as good looking as friends on purpose so she can be the hot one. Raven's friend looks less greasy and dirty than Raven does though, so her approach backfires a bit.
Sorry, Raven's friend. No speculation on you is really about you, it's about her. Please get as far away from Raven as you can. You'll be much better off.
"post half naked photos of myself? never! only sluts do that!">>346255
Holy shit have her cats got fleas? She does pet videos I know but they make me sad to watch. Get flea treatment instead of ugly clothes! Also if your cats are inside cats, they wouldn't be getting fleas if your house was clean! omg.
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She went through the other day on Instagram and, "followed all of her followers so it would be easier to reply to them." I about died of laughter when I got the request, but of course I accepted it.
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Its the same as when she wanted that creepy real looking baby. As soon as she got it, she didn't want it anymore after like a week. Can't commit to anything, huh?
That's hilarious considering those are probably the only things that actually love her a bit and can't escape away from her for a while like Logan and her unwanted teenage ovary produce.
Nice raven, show how good of a mom you are when you can't even be responsible as a pet parent and handle them in such a way so they don't end up acting out.
Wow. We could see this coming from a mile away though. She only wants kittens when they're tiny and cute, and once they're big and still cute (to the rest of us anyway) she doesn't care anymore. She should've just gotten a stuffed animal to go along with her reborn doll. That poor cat family.
The bigger cats are probably just being terrible because she's only paid attention to the kittens since before they were born, so she'll just get rid of the whole lot altogether. :(
Bitch is either borderline personality disorder and/or narcissistic personality disorder. She's incapable of understanding even the concept of other people and animals having different personalities and drives than her own. Logan is so stoned and/or clinically depressed that he essentially has so little by way of emotions that all she sees when she looks in his face is her own reflection.
As for her son, she will never, ever forgive him for not turning out identical to Logan, always supporting mummy and catering to her every whim without argument or protest. Worse than that, she programmed him with all of her behavioural quirks and compulsions and given that she's incapable of coping with even a mentally stable person saying "No, you can't come over and scoff down the cake that I just made for my six year old's birthday tomorrow," trying to adjust to her own mental problems as manifested in her son, I wouldn't be surprised if she's having daily seizures from the stress of it all.
She's even resenting the kittens growing up and developing their own personalities. Don't get me wrong, seven out of ten of the cats I've ever come across have been right dicks. For every cat that will sleep all curled up and purring on your bed of a night there's ten who will just piss on your pillow and sneer at your frantic attempts to clean it up. But getting pissed off at your cats being cats is absolutely what you'd expect of a nutjob of Raven's caliber.
She won't be able to protect him from all the sluts coming at him or prevent him from watching porn then!!!
But really he could go over there while they're in the process of moving and stay on a visa while everything is being sorted/processed if she really wanted to go back but we all know she's too lazy to do all that. Plus if she left then she wouldn't be able to bitch about NZ anymore or better yet, she'd go back to the US and realize how much it's changed since 2002.
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1 It's obvious to even Helen Keller that Logan did not write that message raven, you did and 2 what the hell does your saggy 'readers wives' porn shot pic have to do with goth music? The desperation is clear in this one. Logan's not showing any attention so she has to get it from strangers online and then moans about perverts. Crazy fat crazy!
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"Let's sell this kitten that out grew it's baby stage so we can go eat at a fancy place for one day and brag about $9 garlic bread."
But for real, who the fuck would let them into their fancy restaurant to begin with?! They always look super greasy and shit.
If you didn't document your boring ass life, you wouldn't have to explain why you're spending money when you're broke af.
You do this to yourself raven.
She legit branded him for life. Wow
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She did a live video and mentioned it but didn't show it. Said she's gonna do a video about it so. Poor guy
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Love It that she made him get a skinny version of her lmao. Patiently awaiting their couple tattoo video. Remember everyone they have no money for food or bills but came afford shit tattoos
I'm gonna guess that her tattoo isn't of him.
Well if he's ever able to break away from her he could spin it as some edgy thing, having a decrepit old woman tattooed on him.
Poor stupid kid.>>352048
Probably not lol.
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A "proper" place wouldn't have let you in the door but they did stick you two in the back away from everyone else, kek. At least the cats are in a better home with someone who will actually love them and take care of them.
100 NZD is around £60 so pretty standard prices and not as expensive as she makes out.
The portions aren't even that small. She can have anything without finding something to complain about.
God, can you imagine going to a nice restaurant with your date only to be seated near that pierced and tatted heffalump Raven? So gross, a shame many restaurants ditched dress codes.
I can't believe she sold a cat for dinner money. How shameful, surprised she admitted it.
I saw like half of it, She also mentioned how Dorian has a girlfriend and how it would be stupid of him to not come back to the US with her but its "his choice"
Yeah sure it is Raven, you'll not forced him to do anything….
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what a beaut
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He reminds me of dani filth when started getting chubby. Poor lad. Bet he can't go to the gym because raven fears he'd hook up with some gym bunny.
Wait a fucking moment
I haven't been keeping up with Raven so please forgive me for the stupid question but is this Logan? As in, Logan the child bride who's supposed to be the same age as her son? Because hoooly shit life has not been kind to him if so.>>352636
This guy looks like an Oblivion Bosmer.
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I still don't see how they were let into such a "fine dining" place looking like this. $100NZ is roughly $70US which is far from "fine dining" but she did use the money from the kittens she sold. Stay classy.
Is Raven picking on a special needs goth?
10/10 will watch the Raven video.
It's just a bar in a hotel, so yeah. They probably would just let them in.
There's so many nicer places to eat in Christchurch though.
Wouldn't surprise me in the least.
What a trashy bitch.
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If she continues to spend $119 on shit, she's never going to make it to the US.
What even is this?
What about those potatoes they couldn't afford?
a hatchkin? i think it's called, it was the ~hot gift~ last xmas people were selling them for hundreds of dollars
it's like…an egg that a furby hatches out of
She is never going to change. I hope the boys can run off together and repair their friendship and commiserate over this lunatic parasite. Fingers crossed she keels over soon for the sake of her slaves.>>353119>>353133
They're called hatchimals and they're the dumbest fucking toy ever. They cost about $60-80 USD. Around christmas time demand was so high that people were sometimes paying double or even more. Either way they're not cheap. It's not even a cool toy. ESPECIALLY not for a grown ass woman. These things are meant for kids around 6 or younger, and even they're going to get bored of it within an hour. She could have bought a handful of video games or something much more stimulating and worthwhile. A fucking golden tamagotchi would have been a better purchase.
Sage for irrational hatred of hatchimals
Ah that's fucking awful. Here I am mulling over how the hell I'd cover that up. It's going to cost him a lot for an artist that can pull it off.
The stars make me want to gouge my eyes out. The face is a shoop right? I'm afraid of what it actually looks like.
firstly, it's so far from being recognizably her that it's hardly a tattoo of her anyway
secondly, he could always just make it into the rotting bloated monster she already is kek
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She really is delusional if she thinks anyone will hire her when she moves back.
Hot topic wouldn't even hire her, they look for younger people and Raven is hideous as is. As a teen I would have never shopped at hot topic if someone looking like raven worked there
I mean not only that but typically they search for young and attractive, doubtful she would ever have any qualifications for a management position which at her age they'd more likely consider that if she had any qualifications.
I mean would you buy products from a clothing store seeing Raven working at the register?
Besides the fact that Raven will never be and has never been – that thin, this looks like a character in a horror film. You know, the one that appears to be a beautiful woman from the back to lure it's victims in, but then it turns around and shows it's demonic, rotting face?
Yeah, that one.
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Ah, yes. I see the resemblance.
funny thing is that's probably the edited version, how bad must it have been before!?
Seeing pics like this, I feel terriblem for him (he was a dumbass teenager who could not have had the slightest idea what he was getting into) and terrible for his parents who were forced to watch their legally adult child throw his future into the shitter.
And it's all worked out so well for him: broke, tied to a lazy leech, gaining weight from the shitty diet she insists upon, and branded for her pleasure. Raven is kind of like a female Greg.
What if they break up? What's he going to do with that?
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4 minutes 55ish she looks like one of those special kids showing you their navel fluff
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Noooo I thought this was a new music video of her rapping at the beach I am so dissapoint
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I hate to insult Roger in this way but, I think sleep deprivation has gotten to me. I can't stop thinking of this.
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who's she kidding kek
This… comment she made makes me really sad. He was 13 for Christ's sake, she has no room to talk about his childhood discoveries like that, she truly is a pedo.
This isn't normal behaviour for an adult, why isn't she seeing a psychiatrist/psychologist?
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Came across this on one of her videos. Not very expressive? He looked happier in very early pictures of them together, because back then the situation was still new and exciting to him, now he's miserable as fuck and she knows it. "Never been in love before me" well fucking DUH he was still a kid when your pedo ass stole him away
she probably won't leave because logan doesn't want to move over there, so i guess we'll forever have to put up with her bitching about nz prices and how it's not like america!>>355098
so true! she even called his ex gf at 13 (yes, 13!!) ugly. she's jealous of any other female that has been in his life.
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If Logan posted similar photos of himself online and had those kind of comments, she'd be fuming calling them all sluts. One rule for her, one for him…
That's why I think Logan is probably not very bright. Any halfway intelligent man would demand the same rights and privileges she has. But he's just a moron who thinks he's "in love" and doesn't realize that real, lasting love is more about respect than lust or passion.
But then again, no one with more than 6 brain cells would get involved with her in the first place. I wonder if he can even read?
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Is she fucking serious? Does she not get viewer retention and just thinks that if you put up more minutes, she'll make more YouTube money for her next garage tattoo?
She's made a part 2 of it that's 41 minutes of pure shit.
Still bitching about money but made Logan buy her a $10 light up plastic sword (what happened to selling stuff to go to the US?) and a $6 iced coffee plus a light up headband. >>355112
She'll force him to move with her saying that he doesn't really love her and doesn't want her to be happy if he doesn't. Even though she has little to no family left and always complains about it, he does and she's just going to rip him away from it just so she can be "happy". I honestly hope they move to the US because it's going to give her a wake up call that the US isn't how it was 10+ years ago and she's going to have to pay for health insurance again but now for 3 people, if Dorian does go with them and what happens when their sponsor gets sick of their shit after a week. Maybe the sponsor is just as a slob as the rest of them.
They've been together since he was 16 (or 15?). His romantic experience consists of a relationship when he was 13, and a 5 year marriage to a manipulative scumbag who is old enough to be his mother. And even if he'd never gotten with Raven and had been having normal relationships up until this point, he'd still probably be making dumb mistakes because he's so young.>>355185
I really hope he's got a cuck fetish.
And she called the girlfriend at 13 ugly! Does she also think his crushes at kindergarten were ugly sluts too? lmao>>355307
Would they even be able to get back into the country now?
Sorry but the first minute of the video, of course she's complaining about something, this time about how hard it was to find parking even though they live close, like… If you live close, wouldn't it be better to just walk in or take a bus? Get a taxi home if the bus service stops running at night? I mean sure you could say taxi is expensive but you did just spend $10 on light up sword plastic crap and some amount of money on iced coffee so you're not exactly that hard up for money. >>355565
Because she's a big fat malingerer who knows she can get disability checques and pity points if she plays up her illnesses. It's not that she can't work, it's that she doesn't want to.
Some questions and answers worth noting, simply for the lulz and sheer hypocrisy:
>"If you became single would you get together with your ex or move to the USA?"
States she wouldn't get back with her ex and that she would move to America. "He's an ex for a reason" but she still hangs out with him, has him pay for all her shit and gushes over him like a teenager.
>"Do Logan and your ex get along?"
Says they actually hang out with her ex regularly, they've gone out to eat together and been over at each others houses. You just know she would never be fine with it if Logan was still best pals with his ex. Ya know the 13 year old one she called ugly?
>"Do you have any weird fetishes?"
Her response: "Do I look like some kind of sexual deviant to you?" BAHAHA you're a pedophile so, yeah, you do.
>"Logan seems to be dressing normal now and nothing like his gothic style when you first met. Do you honestly like his style?"
Claims to have no problem with it but admits to preferring alternative, skinny guys with long hair and makeup. "He doesn't even have that build anymore, he's bulked up" - aka FAT. All she ever talked about regarding her exes was their style, so it obviously bothers her more than she lets on.
>"If you type your name into Google some pretty horrible stuff comes up, does this worry you or impact your daily life in any way?"
She gets all worked up saying only trolls would search her name and know that. Actually, it was because of her herself that I found out about all these "hate" websites on her. One of the first videos of hers that I had seen was her saying she was a victim of Lolcow and Kiwifarms and it was only because of her constantly talking about it that I became curious and had a look. She brings it on herself.
Kek "I have nothing to hide." -deletes videos immediately-
"He's an ex for a reason" yet continues to constantly hang out with him and crap.
"We're going to sell off everything we own" yet still continues to buy shit like a $10 light up sword. Yeah I don't see them moving at all. If they really wanted to move, then shit would be done in any way possible.
"He's not 16 anymore, he's 21! I bought him this this and this and he was partying and doing drugs and didn't care and I told him I wouldn't support him anymore so he got a job"…..so he supports you now and that's why he's so depressed?
Talking about him being a misogynist, she's recently liked the fb page anti-feminism, but of course she would. She hates women so fucking much. She claims he hate girls so much yet tends to forget he was caught looking at porn. NZ sounds like a fun place when every girl is a whore.
"I'm going to defend myself posting provocative photos but I'm still failing to realize I'm a fucking hypocritical idiot who shames other girls for doing the same thing."
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You'd think after getting 1 tattoo done by a "shitty" artist, they wouldn't continuously keep getting more. But then again, it's a way to blame other people for their tattoos to be shitty and not shitty designs or take the blame themselves. Nope, can't take the blame for anything.
That's begging for infections. Not to mention super shitty tattoos.>>355918
And that's the mental one too. But hey she's selling/sold the kittens. In the q&a videos she deleted, she said they were selling the cats, so I'm assuming they're going to just give him and the other one away. But yes, she cracked an egg into a lid and fed it to her mental cat.
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Well, well, well. You claim to have all the attention you need at home yet post up pictures of yourself in scantly clad clothing that you yourself damn other women for wearing. But Logan can't even have a girl add him on facebook?
She tries to defend it by saying "99% of women dress way more provocative than me so what's the problem?" ummmm 99% DO NOT dress provocatively at all, in fact the only ones who do are models and duurrr it's their job. In her "I'm a whore!" video, the ONLY women she could list that dress worse than her were models.
Her response to the question about how she only posts those photos because she doesn't get attention at home was hilarious. "Logan was poking me with his dick wanting sex" he might want sex from her because he's forbidden from watching porn, but clearly the guy doesn't give her any compliments. Someone on her Deviantart account made a creepy comment about her figure and she responded "I wish my husband would say things like that!" How demoralizing must it be for Logan knowing he's not allowed to interact with other women but she can plaster near nude photos online for other guys' attention?
They'd stop going to that artist, and they'd get it covered up elsewhere, if they were really concerned and not just blatant about the fact that it's a damn swastika. It's not like they haven't gotten other tattoos since then. They could've gotten that one covered up.>>355887>"We're going to sell off everything we own" yet still continues to buy shit like a $10 light up sword. Yeah I don't see them moving at all. If they really wanted to move, then shit would be done in any way possible.
Realtalk as someone who's got a goal of moving overseas in the next year and is currently applying for jobs (lol when they've got time since they're already working full time), but I'd love to buy a cool light up sword at a festival, or another fancy bath bomb, or a tacky souvenirs form the museum, but instead I say "no, better not" and hoard that $10 or w/e in my savings account like a dumb dragon because moving countries is expensive, yo. I've already done it twice and between visas and shipping all your shit over (and HMRC will charge customs on stuff you already own because they're greedy fuckers like that, IDK about other customs officials), and one way airfare which for retarded reasons costs more than roundtrip, it costs a damn fortune and Raven is dumb to keep buying shit when when she wants to move but claims to not even be able to afford potatoes. Sorry. That's rant. I'll go breathe into a paper bag or something lol. >>355929
IDK maybe pantsuits are provocative or something and that's why Hillary wears them…? :^)
A little OT but yes. As someone who did move countries, US to Europe, within the last year, I sold everything that I possibly could to get here and didn't buy myself anything. Plane tickets, visa applications, etc add up and I'm one without a job. I don't know how she expects to move and magically have all this money once she gets back to the US let alone her getting a job which is laughable. I see Logan getting an under the table job. But as I've mentioned before, she's going to have to pay for health insurance once she gets back (it won't be free anymore Raven and it is mandatory that you have it now), food, car, gas, pretty much e dry thing aside from rent since one of her followers is letting them be a sponsor but I don't see that person being able to afford to house 3 adults so they're gonna have to do something. But with her making Logan buy useless shit, there's no way they're going to have enough to move and she'll forever be stuck in New Zealand.
Not at all! You have to think, she didn't even attempt to try any of the local food for 10 years solely because she "doesn't like change" and only wants her American processed food. Import/shipping to any country is expensive anyways. It's one of her excuses to try and claim that New Zealand is so expensive while showing imported foods, yeah they're going to be more expensive than in the US because gasp
they're imported. But that doesn't go without saying New Zealand doesn't have it's flaws, it's just not as bad as she tries to make it out to be.
She's said she was going to kill herself because no one in the US liked her and nobody cared about her and she was living with people that took her money, wouldn't let her eat, wouldn't let her sit on the furniture, etc and Ryan (her ex, the 3rd husband) offered to fly her and Dorian to save her life but they were enemies over the internet? But all of a sudden he has a change of heart and wants to fly her to NZ and take care of her and marry her. But yeah this was circa 2007-08.
Also, she's made the cunt of a q&a video public again, kek.
On the subject of Logan going to the U.S., a famous white Aussie author was detained at the airport trying to gain legitimate entry to attend a conference. They tried to turn her back at the border unless she could convince them why she had come and was intending to leave after her stay. I wonder if Logan will be detained, and if we'll get a super ranty video from Raven if they actually go…>>355985
Slightly off topic, but NZ is pretty nice. They were the first country to give women the vote, they had a female Prime Minister before anyone (except For Thatcher) and gays can legally marry there. The indigenous Maori culture is integrated and greatly respected in the White culture. The local food products like salmon, cheese and red meat are of high quality. The landscape is pristine. Raven just hates it because she can't appreciate any of these things because none of them apply to her. She wants to be Queen of the Goff Scene but everyone rejected her because she is an arsehole.
Oh, definitely. She'll probably have him say something like "When you love someone you make compromises so I'm willing to move if that's what she wants and if it'll make her happy…" I'm curious what his family thinks of it all, or perhaps they don't even know and will be told at the last minute when they can't object or stop it? I feel really bad for them to be honest, she's ruining their sons life.
>She should know how it is to leave family behind and not have any because that's all she ever whines about, and now she's doing it to him.
Exactly, I thought this too. Maybe he's just going along with it because he believes it will never actually happen. Just look at the way she's still blowing cash on childish crap, if you're planning to make such a big move you'd be saving every penny.
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one of the questions a 'fan' has asked logan "what are your kinks"
wait for raven to butt in with her 2 cents on that question
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Here we go…
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It's probably project work then. He gets a job on a project, the project gets completed, he gets laid off, rinse, repeat.>>356496
Lol. Yeah. Logan will crazy rage and call her a whore.
I don't understand it either especially since she's at an age where no one really gives a shit if you sleep around or not. And at her age, I feel like being seen as a prude would only make her less attractive to other people, especially to the teen boys that she loves so much. No young guy gets with a much older woman with the intention of having a serious relationship and starting a family, they just do it because they want sex.
When it comes to the pictures she posts, I also find it ridiculous that she posts those but claims that Logan "loves" her so much and that their relationship is so strong. If he gave a single fuck about her, she wouldn't feel the need to post pictures like that and get attention from other men.
Yea, I think that's part of the reason he stays. I also feel like she manipulates him into staying.
Tbh I don't even think she wants to be with him anymore, I think she only stays to prove everyone wrong about their relationship and because she'd have to find someone else to leech off of.>>356564
Yeah, I was gonna ask about that but I thought that maybe I was remembering things wrong because she couldn't be that
much of a hypocrite.
Yeah, that makes sense.
And I wish he would too. I wonder why his family hasn't done anything to intervene? I know they can't legally do anything to keep him away from her, but I think if I was his parent, I wouldn't give a shit about the law.
Yea if I was his parent I'd at least be checking with him every so often…..
The funny thing is, if he was devoted to her then even an attractive naked woman beckoning him to bed wouldn't tempt him. The controlling tells me she knows deep down he would rather be with someone else if given the chance.
They did when they first got together, going as far as physically keeping him a way from her but they kept finding ways to get together and the police were called but as he turned legal age, there's literally nothing anyone can do about it. But he's also not some poor teen anymore and I think people forget that.
Also, this is his 2nd relationship besides a 13 yr old he was with for 10 months.
I honestly think he's not as prude and conservative as Raven tries to make him out to be, point proved when an older video where she went on a rant of him not liking porn and him hating it/finding it gross, she'd leave him if he watched it, and then a few months ago he was caught watching porn and watching the whole 5 years they've been together.
Not like it's a new development but I always laugh when I see her wearing shit with her tits hanging out while she screams that even showing cleavage makes you a whore. Okay gurl, nice spike bra boob hanging out you pure and innocent conservative you!
Also, who the fuck spent this much on this ungrateful spoiled bitch? That money would have been better off going to charity or literally anywhere else. Not saying poor people can't have nice things, but she obviously isn't as poor as she claims to be and is a general cunt.
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1. Selling everything to move to the states and not spending any unnecessary money. They're saving everything they can. 2. Why so much skin on show to show a tattoo when she claims women who show cleavage are whore? 3. Didn't think it was possible but her tattoo got shitter. Is that a red pen cross? Might as well get a swastica tattoo like her teenbride
Damn that's a mess. I legit have no idea what any of that is supposed to be.
It's like she took a photo of junkyard slurry and asked for it to be inked on her chest.
She's the most visually repellent cow we discuss if we leave the Slatons out of the equation.
it's snakes coming out of a hole in her chest, but it's such a shitty, blurry, indistict mess it is hard to say.
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Looks about right
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According to her we're all neck beards who live in what appears to look like her house. Like does she not realize how nasty her place is? I bet she still has rotten cherries on her wall from where she was throwing them out from her bed to her window but missed.
Actually I live in a clean apartment. It's normal to be able to walk around without running into clothing piles and getting cat hair stuck on the bottoms of your feet, Raven. And the best part is, I pay for and clean it all without the help of government handouts.
If you're reading this, you're too fat and filthy yourself to be calling anyone else names. You're the slime from the bottom barrel.
Watching this makes it clear how dumb the guy is. It makes sense, he is a child of teen parents, fucked around at school and was drinking underaged…dropped out and got married to someone who is older than his parents. In this Q&A he shows that he is not any more mature than he was at 16. He is the same "edgy" persona, in the same breathe he says he hates stupid ppl (which are feminists to him since why not) he says he doesn't read unless there are pictures. Unlike raven he struggles to even find the words to complain with since beyond calling things gay or retarded he had nothing much to say. Some replies are pretty much word for word things she says so it sounds fake, almost like a mantra of this idea they have created where they are these hard working ppl and anyone who criticizes them are neck beards who are unloved… etc. You can tell he is just vomiting the words out since they don't match his other tone. But technically he said it and he probably believes what he says.
It's sad that he is so unaware of how stunted he is, a few times he says he hates his peers and he acts like he is more mature than them, but then replies like a 13 year old to any question that requires thought.
They admit they aren't saving atm, but will soon. Not sure what pipe dream they have on this moving thing but it sounds like the next 20 videos will be bitching about it.
Raven comes in half way to listen in btw. She is relatively quiet so it isn't bad.
"Everything is expensive" as it is most everywhere. Also, don't live in a tourist town if you don't want tourist prices. "People are rude" again, people are rude everywhere. It's not going to magically change once you go to the US.
Annnnndddd there the racism comes out. "I'm not mexican or muslim or anything" Yeah but you're still not from there. It doesn't matter how hard of a worker you think you are, you're going to be judged just as much if not more for your alternative style and no schooling background and very apparent low IQ.
"My generation is the worst thing to happen in the world." Yeah let's just ignore all the wars, famine, etc that's all happened before this generation ever came along. He can't even give a good reason as to why he doesn't like feminists other than they're women. Both of them have a super unnatural hatred toward women and it astounds me. Like they act like those old hateful super conservative people from the southern US who believe a woman is only good for birthing and cleaning.
>>357767>He is the same "edgy" persona, in the same breathe he says he hates stupid ppl (which are feminists to him since why not)
Wait. They actually call themselves anti-feminists? (sorry I try to avoid these threads bc it's depressing to think about the shit she does to Dorian & Logan) Lmao. It's another group of people she lumps herself in with who would absolutely despise her. (I'm not grouping Logan in with this because he only parrots what she says) She's the total embodiment of how MGTOW sees women. And on top of that, her relationship with Logan shows a huge double standard because we all know that if she were a man and Logan was a girl, she'd be in jail right now.>>357838
This. It's especially obvious that he's only parroting Raven when it comes to feminism because being an anti feminist/sjw is a trendy thing online
and he's even said that he rarely uses the internet. Tbh I think if he did discover MGTOW, he would most likely dump Raven.
Their extremely sexist views on women disgust me. I think raven just likes to go along with the anti feminist thing because she thinks that appeals to men, as though she is on their side. After all we know this MARRIED woman loves attention from other men….
She also seems to think the US hasn't changed in the 10 years she's been gone. If they do move we'll no doubt be treated with hundreds of whiny videos about how America has changed, everyone's rude to them, no one will give them a job, etc. It will just be all her complaints about NZ carried over. She's also going to balloon in size even more when she gets her fat fingers on all the American food lol!
Yeah she's going to blow up and we know it. All she's going to eat is cheap processed American cheese and snacks and crap. But this is also the same person who thought by having the surgery and not exercising that she'd be skin and bones.
If she wants to be conservative, that's all fine and dandy, no one would really care. What bothers us about her trying to be all prude is she does the exact thing she claims to hate. All those pictures of her with her tits hanging out (as Logan said, he doesn't think breastfeeding in public should be allowed because he doesn't want to see sluts tits) and in super low cut dresses, skirts and dressed that are super short, wearing bikinis when there's no need to wear them. Like I don't understand the hypocrisy in all this. She can claim it's all for weight loss progress all she wants but even a moron would know that's not what she's doing it for. If you hate nudity and sluts that much, then don't do the same. If you do, like she does, then don't complain about it. And there's honestly no room for them to complain. People can dress how they want. I mean they always look like greasy bad mall goths.
Not true, we should stick to facts here. She was willing to get pregnant young, abs every husband she had she was trying on and off to get pregnant. She messed up through miscarriages that destroyed the ovaries.
Best thing to happen.
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Wtf has happened to him?
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Boy has she really fucked up her hair. At this rate she's going to end up giving herself bald patches if she doesn't already have them. >>360124
He's said in his q&a video (and other videos) that with him "growing up" and getting jobs and such he doesn't dress goth anymore and that he's moved onto more plain alternative. Raven of course doesn't like it and forces him to dress up goth whenever he can, like the light festival they went to.>>360253
So pretty much when he was in From First To Last before becoming Skrillex?
Someone asked in the comments why is it messy like that and Raven said "The server was seriously sloppy and just splattered the food in the bowl"
I highly doubt that lol.
He doesn't really look goth to me, just alternative, but no doubt it is all of Raven's influence because being the shallow cow she is it was only his look she fell in love with and she doesn't like that he "can't be bothered" with it anymore. I think she'd dump him for the next alternative guy that stares at her twice.>>360259
I can see rice but other than that I have no idea what he's eating and why it's so messy, he probably just dunked the spoon in it and it went everywhere lol.
Poor bastard, holy shit.
Looking at that bowl like "God I wish that were me"
wew lad someone save him
Not only that, but she states soo many time that they are STARVING etc like why the fuck do you go to a restorant then? Just fucking stock up on potatoe and rice or something and don't STARVE.
I mean they both buy stupid clothes online and get tattoos so… so much for saving or not having any money.
This. I've never understood it. I used to know someone who claimed to be so poor and always starving, but he and his family would always
go out to eat at restaurants. How hard is it to stock up on basics and cook for yourself for a change? But then again look at the shit she cooks at home….
I agree(different anon), you can budget that money and stretch it out rather than blowing it on one shit meal. Like 20$ isn't much to get a lot of groceries, but they could at least buy canned foods/ramen/frozen depending on where you go.
I would say canned veggies and fruit over potatoes, but we all know Raven will not eat anything unless it's unhealthy as fuck.
Are you me? I knew someone who'd complain their family was so broke they couldn't afford groceries or even sodas but then they'd order Asian food from one of those online grocery stores they ship overnight.
Anyone that says/does that is just trying to get sympathy. Poor Logan though, he just looks like he longs for death constantly. I'm glad Raven never had kids with him or she'd leave him just to bleed him dry for support money.
lol! He wasn't the only one I knew that was like that either.
Yeh I can't believe she tried to have kids with him when he was still a kid himself….
What Raven doesn't tell you is that fresh produce in NZ is very affordable. She could quite easily buy a week's worth of fresh veg and meat for around $50-$70 that would feed 2 people comfortably. She just has too much shit in her shopping trolley like fizzy drink and novelty items instead of real food.
Dining out isn't cheap. That $50-$70 is probably a night out for 2 at a standard restaurant/cafe. Her priorities are all fucked up and orientated towards her needing constant treats and rewards to deal with her shitty life.
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Can you imagine anyone hiring this in America?
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Imagine if Logan replied any thing like that! She'd so even crazier!
Why are you so
married? As opposed to a little married…
Was she the one who liked his comment? And isn't that the very thing she's trying to keep Logan away from, "whores" who want to steal him away!?
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Spotted this comment on the video. Ironic as Raven would be exactly the same calling anyone thinner than her a slut or whore!
Eventually she's going to end up melting her hair the more she lightens it. She had no reason to rant about that stylist. She said she had been going to the same woman to get her hair done, 100% positive that the stylist told her multiple times to not color/lighten her own hair because she doesn't know what the fuck she's doing, Raven does her hair herself because she's an idiot, goes back to stylist and wants it fixed. Most stylists would tell her no, not only because she did it herself and was probably told not to do it but because it's more of a risk and hassle than it would be to do it and take her money. If her hair was that fucked to begin with, I'm not going to try to fix what you continuously keep fucking up for your hair to fall out if I do it from your stupidness and then you in turn try to say I fucked up your hair.
In the time the stylist would have done her hair, she could have done multiple cuts and made the same amount of money, if not more. I doubt Raven tips. So turning her down is not unheard of at all. And she has no room to bitch about lightening the hair when the stylist does it, you can't go from dark/multiple colors to instant platinum blonde because gasp
it fucking damages your hair to shit and back. Gotta do it in steps. But Raven doesn't know all of this and doesn't care to know. She just wants to bitch about something/somebody. She even tries to use the "I don't know these things" excuse.
"with his little girlfriend"
belittling their relationship, noted.
"Logan's real clever 'cause he listens in class…
apart from when they told him to stay away from older strangers"
I'm so fucking glad Dorian moved out. She probably despises him for not putting up with 100% of her bullshit all the time. He's gonna move in with a roommate and make well adjusted friends who will tell him that his mom is a selfish crazy ephebophile and that will be that.
Now we just have to hope Logan sees the light sometime soon too. I kind of hope he bails on her when he realizes her going to the US is a real thing she wants to happen and not just a whiny pissbaby fantasy like before. Or maybe he'll go with her cause he's thinking "fuck it, how can it get any worse? Maybe the US will be fun".
The only person I feel bad for in this sorry, fucked up drama is Dorian. He had no choice but to grow up with her, under her deranged influence. At least he is off trying to do his own thing now.
Raven and Logan are a perfect match. I don't feel bad for him at all. He has his mother/family he can go to but he chooses to stay with Raven. Logan is an uneducated, ignorant deadbeat and is happy to continue that way. He could enrol in night classes or tertiary school but doesn't.
Raven is equally intellectually stunted and is stuck in this teenage mindset of consumerism. Look at all the crap she continues to buy even though they can't afford it. She calls out other women for being sluts yet posts sexually suggestive photos on Instagram constantly.
Seriously, fuck these two. ( Sage for sperg.)
Yeah, and even Raven said Logan is racist and sexist (which I believe because when she was talking about falling in love with him she posted pictures of him and he was doing the nazi salute). I mean that speaks a lot about Raven falling in loving him and knowing these things about him, but he's pretty awful himself.
They always complain he gets fired from his dead end jobs because someone at work is a hater or trying to sabotage him, but I doubt it. He's content to live in that rat hole and do absolutely nothing with his life.
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She's leaving bad reviews because others have left bad reviews despite not even going there.
Yes, this next video explaining about why she has kicked Dorian out is going to be interesting. She said in the update video that he is responsible for all the Lolcow drama and bullying she received from people in NZ. >>367221
Dorian has probably done the same thing as Venus: realised his mother is full of shit and jumped ship.
Thinking back to when the drama started being reported to sites like KF makes me think Dorian was looking to jump ship back then. Maybe he went looking for an adult to help him, told them about his fucked up home life and that's what started the hating on Raven. Where was Dorian when she was off doing sex work?
I hope she does post that video. I wonder what kind of things will she blame him for.
I mean cmon I don't care how many times she said he doesn't care - your mom fell in love with your underage best friend and they got married. No wonder he's also a cluster fuck. Hope he gets his life together since he's not around her anymore.
wtf she is seriously mentally ill if she really thinks the way she acts is normal. no parent in their right mind would say such awful things about their kid especially to an audience.
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this is what she wrote to dorians girlfriend
I'm sort of conflicted. Obviously a lot of Dorian's problems stem from how he was raised. She keeps saying that she tried to give home a normal life and a loving family, but in some of her past videos she's mentioned being on the verge of homelessness, having nothing to eat, having his birthday money stolen by her shitty roommates, and his father abandoning him. All of that is enough to fuck up a kid, but on top of that he has Raven as a mother.
On the other hand, if his problems can be excused because of shitty parenting, Raven could also be excused for a lot as well. It just seems like a cycle that creates the same kind of person. Both of them refuse to work, refuse to go to school, and have shitty relationships
this is something I've been thinking about a lot lately. When does a child's problems stop becoming the fault of their parents, and become their fault? Idk
Also, this just seems like magnified empty nest syndrome. I assume most mothers experience crazy emotions over their children moving on to the next chapter in their life. Just with some Raven flair.
Best of luck to Dorian. Hi gf seems sweet.
She mentions Dorian's dad and her parents tried to take him to raise and she refused because she was his mother and he was going to stay with her. So who knows what the actual story is,>>367975
I think Empty Nest explains a lot. She feels abandoned and betrayed by Dorian wanting the other family over her. Its easier to blame Dorian for being an arsehole than it is for her to acknowledge she fucked up.
She is very contradictory in what she says. Like if he is so bad then why freak out over him leaving? No wonder Dorian wants another family, one without a BPD mother and child bride stepfather acting like lunatics.
It's not even like she couldn't be a spooky edgelord and still look appropriate for work.
She could have plain black hair and if she wants unnatural colours that badly she could buy brightly coloured wigs for outside of work. She could take her piercings out when she's working and if she insists on the shitty 12 year old emo makeup she could at least wear toned down makeup at work and keep the panda eye shit for after hours. It's what pretty much every other goth that isn't a giant child does.
But she's already got jobkiller tattoos all over her face so I guess she screwed herself over there.
She sits around and complains about how poor they are while also bitching at Logan for working too much, bitching at Dorian for not having a job, and constantly buying shitty children's toys she doesn't need, all the while doing everything in her power to not have to get off her ass and work for herself.
Also, Raven, not to play therapist but you are
abusive. It's pretty much impossible to have untreated BPD and not
What kind of job could he get though? He has no skills and has only worked as a labourer. Minimum wage in NZ is much higher than in the US and I imagine cash in hand jobs wouldn't be paid at the correct govt rate. Does Logan realise that he will be paid much less in the US for doing the same shitty job?
Raven had Dorian when she was 17 and it's like her personality ceased at that point. The way she acts and picks fights with teenagers and thought it was ok to date a 16 year old shows how stunted she is. There was episodes going back where she threatened some kid who stole clothes from them (looking back Dorian maybe just gave them the pants?) and that poor girl she invited to live with her then turfed her out on her arse when Raven felt disrespected.
It's a constant episode of high school drama starring Raven, who can do no wrong because everyone else is the problem and she is just sitting there minding her own business.
I don't see how she is going to do that. She has zero dependable income, she's a goff welfare queen, and who else in their right mind would sponsor the childgroom of a deranged madwoman?
And about her looks: she looks extremely unfortunate even without all the cut-out whore gear, the dirty tattoos, and the messed up hair. She's bloated and flabby, and and even if she was not completely insane she'd still never be beautiful. She could have been passable, normal, average, but she's just too bugfuck insane to even consider that an option. With all the stuff she's done to herself, she looks scary and like someone you wouldn't just not want to hire, but also as someone you wouldn't want to go near with a ten inch pole.>>368393
Yep. For her wel fare abusing fat ass, the NZ system is way kinder than Texas. Kiwis will be happy to be rid of her I guess. Raven's personality didn't stop developing when she was 17, it must have been somewhere around 12 or 13.
Most under the table jobs are something like $100+ a day for little work. But if caught doing that, you'll end up in a shit ton of trouble, especially the IRS.
If he manages to get a working visa then he could use the construction type stuff and apply for those but it's very slim that he'll find someone willing to take him in. That's going to be the main issue. Finding a place willing to take him in under a visa. It's not impossible but with his lack of education and the way he presents himself, it's not going to be easy. The min where I am from is less than $8 an hour. That's not going to support him and her once they do move out from under a sponsor and he gets a citizenship. If he thinks they're starving in NZ then they're really going to be starving in the US.
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>says she doesn't check the lolcow sites
>says these videos are the tinest glimpse into her life
>spends nearly an hour sperging over her son's private messages
I am at work so I cant watch the lastest "Thank you" video she just put up, but this was i the description. I thought she was going to live her life and ignore the troll haters??
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She didn't look all that bad before the shitty makeup, tattoos and weight gain. She was average, like you said, but it's incredible how badly she's fucked up her appearance in the name of being edgy.
She's like if you let a 14 year old edgelord have free reign over their lives - a bunch of poorly thought-out tattoos from a shitty artist, pisses away a ton of money on Monster High shit, fried hair, I mean she legally changed her name to fucking 'Raven' for christ's sake.
If her current psychosis and behavoir is any indication already, I'd say no.
Not to mention her online footprints, her lack of work… She'd probably get called back if she was let through regular customs within a month.
She was only in Germany for the first few years of her life then they shipped her off to America to live with her mother. She'd have to learn the language which is a no go for her or Logan and they wouldn't be able to find a sponsor if they'd tried so they would both have to have a good paying job before moving there. Plus, her dream of 1980's America is the only thing she wants. I can't wait until she gets back and realizes that everything's changed from what she remembers. Plus she isn't even moving back to Texas so she's going to be even more in a culture shock than normal.>>368868
Somewhere around the time he was born. Either right before she got pregnant or right after birth. For her it probably was "really skinny" considering how much she blew up later on in life but it's not stick thin like she makes it out to be.
Holy shit, I can only make it through half of Part 2 video because her tirade against Dorian just picks up speed and irrationality as it goes along. Like onion, she condemns herself with her own words.
She tells all this private stuff about her son's relationship but wonders why he doesn't trust her enough to give her a heads up before he moves out, especially after an established pattern of freak outs every time he makes a getaway.
She complains his friends are liars when they won't snitch on his whereabouts, like they owe her more loyalty than their actual friend. It even sounds in parts like she was trying to be part of the same friendship group as her son.
She expects people to understand how their decisions affect her, no matter how irrationally, but shows no empathy for how her histrionics and emotional blackmail affects others. She can't understand that her son's teenaged girlfriend isn't doing this to "win" a contest between them and is crying because she's witnessing an emotional terrorist at work for the first time.
She blames her outbursts on bystanders on Dorian supposedly lying to her about what others were saying, but doesn't get that if she reacted to these stories like a sensible adult, she wouldn't lash out before hearing the other side for herself.
She doesn't get the difference between kids talking shit and a middle aged mentally disturbed person threatening them back. They're scared of you Raven, because you have no insight, no real moral boundaries, and you're a news bulletin waiting to happen.
I'll stop sperging out anymore. I just think if she's this delusional and won't get treatment for her BPD, she can take use it as an excuse.
The text message video really bothered me. She publicly displayed some really personal conversations that had nothing to do with her.
She freaks out on Dorian, then tries to buy his love with 24/hour internet etc. Then doesn't understand why, even with these things, he doesn't want to live with her.
Honestly, Dorian's behavior seems, to me, to be fairly normal for his age. Everyone's a shit head when their a young adult - his behavior may be more exaggerated than others, and I can see how some of the things he did could have hurt her very deeply, but I think that's understandable given the abuse he has experienced for most of his present lifetime. And even being exaggerated, his actions in regard to Raven are still well within the realm of normal and perfectly understandable.
Raven doesn't consider the events of his childhood to have been abusive, because she has experienced worse (she expresses this opinion in one of the new videos).
But Raven, many of the stories you have previously describe (starving, fighting, etc.) are abusive situations, as someone else pointed out. Whether or not you caused these situations, they still happened and they still affected Dorian as a young child. You should recognize the trauma Dorian may have experienced, learn about it enough to fully understand it, and then work with Dorian to heal imo.
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Who is she referring to here? I'd say Emily but she doesn't have green hair
Sure, she's upset. However, she brought it onto herself.
It's a shame that he's just going to go be a bum and a leech on someone else now.
That's how he was raised.
Raven probably didn't expect him to leave, she controls him and logan. She can't stand that he can't stand her.
It's very sad too that she isn't picking up on the fact that he just tells her what she wants to hear and then does whatever he wants. He finds it easier to just pacify her than be straight up with her and have to deal with the arguing and histrionics and victim playing. She really should take a step back and think of what that says about her.
She says he's constantly lying about hating her to his friends and wanting to get away and doesn't understand that he is NOT LYING when he is repeatedly saying the same things and trying to get away, but most people aren't going to say how they really feel about someone they love to their face, to save not only her feelings but to avoid the dramatics that will inevitably come with it.
Raven, he's not lying to everyone else, he's just not being straightforward with you, because you are his mother and he probably wants to salvage any kind of relationship you might have, no matter how crazy and unhealthy it is. But remember, he is willing to live oceans apart from you with no backup plan. That says a lot. Don't listen to someone's words when their actions consistently don't line up with them.
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Omg srsly where is that video where she drives to an equally delusional middle-age goth's house while being like 'they used to bully me and I was involved in so much goth themed drama'. I found it ages ago and I can't find it since. Is that Brenda?
pic related, she literally looked like that
she's actually really sweet, I wanna know someone like that
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So she gets rid of all the cats but 1, it gets lonely, so she gets more cats. I give it 2 months before she gives these away.
I hate people like this. If you're not going to be committed to a pet for life, don't get them. You do more harm to them than good.
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FUCK YOU THAT IS FUCKING GROSS, HOW CAN THIS BE JUSTIFIED IN ANY WAY, TELL US RAVEY
She calls them bad owners because, check this out:
They are not selling them for a better price. They are underselling them when "they could get soo much more"
Complains about throwing away half her stuff and soon she'll have nothing yet continues to buy random ass shit and clutter up more of her house. Yeah. And Raven, if you're moving in 2 years, and it's only you and Logan, you don't need a "massive" house.
Instead of saving the "stalker" money and putting it aside for moving or you know, groceries that you can't buy, you're getting more shitty homemade tattoos. And doing it in payments. How fucking stupid can you be?
If you did not want kittens then you shouldn't have gotten 2 new ones. Your female cat got pregnant, you went on and on about keeping most of them, and then instantly got rid of them along with the mental cat. He would have been fine going to the US had you actually really cared about taking him but you don't. It was just an excuse for you to get rid of him in that instant. And no shit the other one is going to be lonely if it's had others being around it all the time and then all of a sudden it's alone. Like this is the thing that pisses me off the most. At this rate they'll never be able to fucking move. If you can't even buy potatoes, how the hell are you going to buy 2 $800 one way plane tickets plus shipping your shit there with your now 3 cats plus medical shots and all for each one and all the other fees like Logan's green card? And you know if they deny him, you don't get that money back. I hope she is able to go to the US and gets the US version of Paris Syndrome.
It just doesn't make sense.
Getting rid of the kittens because of moving, but then getting other kittens?
Betting 10$ that before the move (if it even happens) she gets rid of ALL the cats with some shitty excuse.
How can someone who is claiming to be staving go and get tattoos all the time? Or BUY animals? How is none of her "fans" not calling her out on it is beyond me.
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she doesn't have to save because she's going to blow her husband's state assistance instead.
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more clothed than most women out there…
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Sorry for the tiny ass pic but is it me or is she trying to copy Emily (yet again) here?
I know, right? She got it sooner so she can claim Emily is copying her. Lmao Raven ain't worth copying, who the fuck would want to look like that beast? The woman is obsessed with Emily.>>374521
Yea she said he was the one who kept asking to take those kind of photos of her when they were married, she's only continuing it now because she wants the attention Logan isn't giving her. I've seen her ex husband still commenting on her pictures saying she's perfect, beautiful etc… very strange. Why doesn't she dump Logan and run off with him already? She is practically still married to him anyway if he's paying for her all useless shit
>>374530>Why doesn't she dump Logan and run off with him already?
I feel like Raven is so childish that she does things in order to prove the ~h8erz~ wrong or to spite them.
Many people have been saying for a while that Logan doesn't love her and that he's only staying because she manipulates him. She definitely knew this when she caught him watching porn behind her back, but she will never leave him because she needs to prove to everyone how strong their relationship is and how much they love each other.
Christ on a bike, Who dafug screenshots their kid and then tries to rip them a new one on Youtube?
Raven's salt leaks through every pore of this video, she didn't get to keep a son-husband like most of these cluster bs do. She'll have to made do with Logan's attention only and she's not happy about it all. Kek.
Sage for super late.
So, I thought I would amuse myself by looking up this garbage … by garbage I mean LOLCOW.FARM. Why ? because I seriously wanted to get insight into what it is that losers sitting in their basement with no lives write about to make themselves feel better. Hating on Raven and whoever else will not make you any prettier, it will not make you intelligent and it will not get you a job. Regardless of what you think about her and her daily life, it doesn't affect you in any form of way. Is her hair, body type, relationship, makeup, or personality going to affect whether or not YOU get a job, a relationship, or anything that would personally ruin your life? No. It will not.. unless you are a bonified pussy that has no clue how to shape your own life. What she does or doesn't do with her money is her problem, not yours. If you consider her issues to be an issue then maybe you should let everyone talk shit and dissect every aspect of your life . Im sure over 75 percent of you insulting her are probably obese, eat too much junk food , waste your money on shit you dont need , dont know how to properly do your makeup , and have shit taste in hair in clothes… and those are the people that should be worried about themselves and not Raven. Thank you losers for letting me get an inside look at how people that have no life live and what their hobby is. Now please, for the americans in here.. get your ass off the computer, get a job and get off of welfare. I really dont like having to cover your food stamps and financial aid with my taxes.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
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Jesus when you compare pics of Logan from 2 years ago to now, the dude's given up on life. How does Raven not see that?
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Compare that collage to this…
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It is Logan, he just looks different because he's actually happy lol! It came from this set of photos
She was always fug but my god those light colored lenses she used to wear all the time back then did her absolutely no favors. She does not look good with blue/gray eyes.
Logan used to be kinda cute and full of life and purpose. I don't think he thought he was going to stay married to this pedo dramabeast for as long as this.
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Spotted this on her latest tattoo video. I love that she claims Emily "brags" about every tattoo she plans to get yet Raven posts almost completely naked photos to show off her new tattoos lol! Also if you follow that "proof" it says NOTHING about getting a goat skull, but just shows her saying her and Logan have special tattoos planned, that's not proof at all Raven you dumb bitch.
Is it deep-seated jealousy since the CJ fiasco or…? Emily was a pretty goth girl compared to her ugly ass. And now Emily's popular and has everything she wants such as lots of subscribers, a child and a husband who actually likes her and doesn't look like he's lost all hope. Why does she even copy her tattoos anyway? Is she trying to get her attention and cause a public argument? Even the way she responds as shown by >>375668
is fucking pathetic and you'd never think this was from a 40 year old. Grow the fuck up Raven
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Dorian's back talking to her at least. It's a short video with him drawing a penis on the car window and I can only assume her ex is with them as she tagged him in it.
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she's otherwise been quiet on social media but has been posting this type of shit on ig. is she back with her ex??
I dunno about leaving Logan, like anon said she would likely push him out by making him homesick or drain him, plus she mentioned it was something good(? Maybe, I tune out a lot in her vids so don't quote me on that) plus if he was drifting, there would be a lot of passive aggressive statuses on her fb, I don't think it's a pregnancy thing, if it was in that realm it'd be adopting I think, didn't she try to adopt one of dorians female friends before? If she wanted to adopt an infant there would be a lot more hoops to jump through, so that might be why she isn't really saying anything, that and the fact that she'd get a shitstorm of hate for being a terrible carer. As for far out theories, maybe she thinks modelling is an option, it might explain some of the nude pictures if she thinks one of her creepy followers is a glamour photographer. Like anon said, it'll come out soon enough, she can't keep her mouth shut. Sage for tinfoiling
I think you are right about Raven not being able to have children. Can't bring myself to watch her videos on this subject because of the way she likes to flash her miscarried child, but I think she's said so else where.
I also wouldn't out it past her to make stuff up either. She said before in a vlog that the tiny butterfly tattoo she got was paid for by drama videos and she knows what do and say to manipulate it.
Good point. She does like to say things in order to get views.
Honestly, give me the T and I'll give you my drama money, Raven. I understand and consent to this transaction lol
Her newest video she says it's something good but doesn't want to say what because she doesn't want her happiness to go away. And that one day she may or may not say what it is. So why bring it up? To stir shit.
The sponsor is one of her Facebook friends. It's not just some random person that signs up to do it.
But she also rattles on about how she has no worthwild connections with people while acting like she is walking on cloud nine in her life.
I hope that the good news is that she found a real life friend who could help her sort out the mindfuck in her own head.
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Thanks for the update!
>>381120>I don't like to think of myself as a particularly bad person
Well Raven, if you're finding trouble no matter who you're with or where you are…as the saying goes: if everywhere you go smells like shit, maybe you need to check your shoes.>If I decided to end my suffering I'd let you all know exactly what the situation was before I go
"Welcome to your tape."
Oh god, is this going to be another fake death? We already did that, Raven.
Who else is close to her? It's not like they have any friends. The sponsor give them up? The ex husband decide he is sick of her mooching?
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It isn't hard to spy when she publicly posts shit. Here is one of the new photo, she says she is loosing weight from stress.
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The saggy tit no bra look is so triggering
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The caption on her newest photo reads:
"What I did, I did for love.
What I did, I did for you."
Maybe she's crafting some elaborate story to lead us on. I would be proud of her if she did that.
Sometimes, I feel like defending Raven. She is a victim of child abuse, domestic violence, and/or she has a mental disorder. She clearly was treated poorly for most of her early and young adult life, causing deep insecurities. Modern psychology and its application in k-12 education and other publicly funded children's programs was for sure not a thing when she was growing up - no teachers, no parents, no CPS, no PARTNERS recognized the signs (especially BPD, if she does indeed have it).
Not only did she never receive help, she never learned how to seek out reliable sources of help and connect with them. Instead, she scraped her way through life (if you've never been to El Paso, Texas, it's a fucking rough place) and made friends with all the wrong people.
I find myself wondering how broken of a person she must have been/still is after living through some of the things she says she's lived through. Or how broken (or maybe darkly creative?) she must be to make up such stories.
Don't get me wrong, I still think she sucks as a mom, is often self-centered, rude, insecure, jealous, petty, messy, a hypocrite, terrible at finances, should never be allowed to own pets, and groomed Logan. Wow, after writing all that, I kinda hate her again lol.
Idk. She really is a product of her environment. She gives us all entertainment. And she has made a few improvements to try and be a better person…I mean, at least she took to heart one or two things and tried to improve those areas of her life (even if it was shallow, like her appearance).
Like, any self reflection shows signs of hope….maybe?
TLDR: Sometimes I feel sorry for Raven but then I remember all the horrible shit she has done.
The post was her worrying about not being able to contact someone in Ohio and another person responded saying that there were tornados and bad storms and power lines were down.
It honestly seems like the sponsor realized they couldn't afford for them to live with them and backed out. I don't think it has anything to do with Logan or her ex. Her ex has been commenting nonstop on all her photos and she recently went to see him. And she's already said its not Logan. In time she will tell and it'll probably be something she's overreacting about.
what exactly is the thought process here? "I've been so stressed I'm losing weight, let me take some slutty photos!" ??? she's batshit
sage for being a retard too lazy to find the milk myself, but have we heard she was abused by anybody else other than Raven? Like, are there police records/other testimony that hasn't come out of her mouth?
I've never heard any of that before, but I HAVE
heard her stories about how she's been "abused" by literally every single person she's spoken to.
Anybody remember that 16 year old girl (Ali? Abby?) she "adopted" for a week before saying she was THE MOST ABUSIVE AND CHILDISH PERSON SHE'D EVER MET, kicking her out? Or all the drama she used to have with her son's friends, accusing them of stealing her shit? Hell, didn't she say her "nasty" ex who she's still in contact with did horrible things to her?
Point is, I think Ravens a crazy bitch with a victim complex. I don't think you can take her stories of abuse seriously.
If I recall (and this is going way back to a video she did about her life ages ago) she reckons she was kicked out and went to live in a share house. The people there stole all her food and made her clean and live on the floor. Then one of her boyfriends/husbands (not the NZ ex) stole all her stuff and trashed it.
How many husbands has she had? Is Logan #3 or #4? Because I think there was some drama with yet another guy but I can't remember which one.
>>381526>because she was thin
There's pics from when she was a teen, she has never in any universe been thin. Because of her personality disorder pretty much everything she says is hugely embellished and made up.
The rapes probably went something like this: she sleeps around because she's promiscuous. She tells herself those guys are really into her. Turns out they aren't that invested, so she splits them black. Retroactively, all of the sex she's had is suddenly retconned as rape because she now hates those guys.
I guess it does depend on how she defines 'rape' in a relationship. Like, would a boyfriend continuously pestering a girlfriend for sex one night when she has already said no and he coerces her with begging and promises of something in return so she gives in to make him shut up and go away.
At the time she may think that was just how it was to get through the day. Later on she meets a SJW who tells her what happened is part of rape culture and she had been raped.
Raven is a bit of an arsehole and I expect the men around her are a bit of an arsehole too. Not saying that a rape did or did not happen. just that she has played fadt and loose with the truth previously, but also hangs with jerks.
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For someone who doesn't care about us and isn't doing anything with her ex, it sure does bother the fuck out of her.
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two adults actually talking like this where their current partners can see
So Raven lurks here? I thought she was done reading what we said about her because it had no power over her.>>381832
Super-cringey. Especially since she did say Logan and her ex tolerate each other for her sake.
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she paraded Logan out in front of the camera and made him apologize for watching porn. He looked like a hostage, it was hilarious. Video's long gone, but I found this in her kf thread, pic = the comments on the video.https://kiwifarms.net/threads/raven-sparks.5040/page-83#post-1900729
Oh I know she was never thin, I was just going by what she herself said. She always claimed to be "soooo skinny" before (maybe compared to her whale self now, but she was never what anyone
would have deemed skinny) and how girls treated her badly because they were "jealous" lolz>>381669
Nah she was never raped, she just has rape fantasies. Look at her constant stream of whoreish photos, some depicting her half naked, bloodied and bound - she wants
to be treated like a slut and in her deluded mind believes only attractive, slutty women are raped, so she's just projecting her fantasies. It never happened.>>381736
Exactly, she even claimed one of her husbands raped her and beat Dorian (possibly the NZ one?) but is still pally with him.
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Guys, it's done, she's bamboozled us. Time for us to close down this haterz site. We just fell for it so hard and we'll never know what it is! And it's such a doozy!!!!
But for real, let me say something….
-Because of this bamboozlement, it actually gives you less credit Raven and makes you even more of a hypocrite and psycho. Point in case the whole "I don't bring women down, I don't hate women, that's two years ago, I support women now!" You can go back to Halloween where you're bitching about girls dressing like sluts. Or was that all part of your big plan to fool us?
-Believe it or not, we're not idiots and we know Logan is the one who has to have the sponsor. You just don't want to be separated from him from any amount of time even to try to better your life so in turn, it's also your sponsor. If Logan doesn't get in, you're not going and you know it.
-That autist making those videos of you isn't one of us. Whatever you did to piss him off, take up with him.
-You just scrolled and read what you wanted to. We didn't say Logan was drugged up, but that he looks like it. He looks like an apathetic shell of what he once was. It's an observation.
-On regarding the Emily tattoo, it's still funny how every time she gets a tattoo, you get a shitty version of it. Butterfly and skull. You may have planned it a year ahead but we know better than that. You would have gotten it way before with all the hater money we give you.
-We think everyone on here is that persons thread when someone comments something autistic. Post like you're Onision? We're going to say you're Onision.
-If we're in denial then what does that make you? If you had SO many people telling you they loved you all the time then why scream for all this attention and say you don't have any love? Is that why you like other dudes comments about you being hot when you post up a revealing picture? Is that what you mean when they love you? You even said you wished Logan would have told you those things. So which is it? Too much love or not enough?
-Your "big news" doesn't matter with us. If you continue being a shit person, that's what we're going to comment about. Or your thread will die which means less haterz money from youtube. We don't live for you, if we want milk we can go to another persons thread. There's plenty of other cows. And contrary to what you believe, we don't sit here all day. There are some people who do though and that's them. Most of us check it when we're on the toilet. So you're like those trashy tabloid magazines that are in the bathrooms that are 20+ years old.
-Post all the bamboolzement you want and pretend you own us when it's really us who owns you because you can't stop checking us.
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Ah Raven – how closely you clutch the chains that bind you. Never change!
>>382114>"I've given up stopping my ex making rude/sexual comments on my pics"
Then block him? Delete him? She must like it really. After all he's giving her the attention her child bride isn't. It's more than a little strange he STILL keeps those sort of pictures of her, and more so that he comments like that. Does he have a partner himself now? They're both vile - clearly made for one another.
Also the funny thing is, her claim that she had that tattoo planned a year ago is bull. Her only evidence for it was her simply saying "me and Logan have special tattoos planned" - nowhere did it say the placement (i.e stomach) or subject matter (i.e goat skull) until coincidentally Emily said she wanted that. It's not even just the tattoos, her entire look is like a trashy, ugly, fat version of Emily.
I love that she reads this thread. It makes up for how sporadic the milk is.
>> Both of us are drug and alcohol free, and believe me, whatever problems he has is not due to me
Trouble in paradise?
>> Delusional idiots
Yes, all these anons are delusional, having the same delusions simultaneously. It's not beyond even a folie a deux.
Don't worry, Logan doesn't run his own FB account and I doubt Raven even lets him use the internet after the porn "scandal" lulz>>381810
The sheer hypocrisy is astounding. Raven, you dumb bitch, how would you feel if Logan was like this with a female friend who happened to be his ex? You'd be livid. One rule for you, one for him I guess
She's probably livid it took you 7 long hours to post this here kek
>I pull the strings here
lmao bitch I read this while pooping, you're just entertainment. And a poor one tbh lol
LOL no, Raven, it won't "tear us up" inside. We don't care and a lot of us knew you were just misleading us, that's
how predictable and pathetic you are. And she's one to talk about us supposedly "sitting here all day" when isn't that all she ever fucking does?
Looks like all the videos embedded in this thread are gone too.
lol, be mad.
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She's also made ANOTHER rant saying how one of her followers came on here and read what we're discussing and she posted this huge thing about and Raven, yet again, thinks she's tricked us and saying how every little thing she does is for us and how she's had a small job for 2 years now and Logan doesn't have welfare and a whole bunch of shit that we've never said or something one person has tinfoiled. But it just goes to show her and her followers read one thing and then get their panties in a wad, which is funny because she thinks we're getting ours in a wad over her.
And why delete your videos Raven? Trying to hide the hypocrisy to make you seem more sane? Or have you "changed" again? You said you now and have been for 2 years, empowering women yet you don't even have to go back to the end of last year to see you were still calling women whores and sluts and what about that anti-feminism group you joined on facebook that you are no longer apart of only after this week? Honey, you're just trash entertainment like Maury, as are the rest of the people on here.
Aw Raven, you love us don't you? Got nothing better to do than sit on your lazy fat ass all day reading our comments about you and your pathetic life? She has no "good friends" that are looking here, it's just her. Her small job is probably whoring herself out to her ex for more god awful tattoos and childish toys.
I also find it highly amusing that she refuses to answer the point that if Logan was still friends with an ex (remember her Raven, the 13 year old you called ugly?!) and he "liked" every sexual comment she made on his pics, Raven would throw a fit. Raven, why is it ok for you to do those things but not your child bride? But let's not forget you control his account and probably never let him use the internet without your supervision amirite!? Disgusting hypocritical waste of oxygen.
>>382838 Last post of this type
LOL!! Raven, who you foolin'? You live for this shit – haters make you famous, right?
P.S. – What kind of person spends a DAY gathering nasty comments about a "good friend", let alone tells the friend about it?? Girl – rethink your relationships. Seriously.
Wow. She is so Not Bothered by what is posted here that she has to go on a mass sperg.
She never checks here and doesn't care about what is posted but deliberately makes up stuff to watch us get overexcited?
Everything posted here is stupid and wrong and stalking?
WTF Raven. It's interesting that what has been posted here has been cherry picked for comment by her. She didn't address the comments on her begging for money and food while posting hauls and dining out or when she went hammer and tongs at Dorian and his girlfriend.
And she chose to defend Logan being on welfare (where was that mentioned anyway) and not that he has porked up, looks like he hates life and is a low IQ thug who spouts anti feminist rants while calling people faggots as he jerks off to porn.
Honestly Raven, you post videos for people to watch then crack the shits when people comment on the content. The commentary reflects the content. It's a reaction to what you do and say. If you think you are surrounded by arseholes maybe that's because the arsehole is you and everyone is just reacting to your constant shit show.
More milk for us, Momma Cow.
There's no friend doing this.
She does it.
She loves the attention, that's why she keeps providing milk.
If she didn't make these statuses or videos about her "haters" then the thread would drop off to /snow/. Her child bride is an adult now, and a thread solely about someone hoarding and abandoning cats would get boring quickly.
Ha and DBZ. They only know the generic stuff.
Who here stalks her Instagram anyway? There hasn't been any of her IG posts put up here. She just threw that in to be overly dramatic. If not for the farmers no one would watch her videos. Be grateful Raven! We also pay for the stuff you buy and the tattoos you want.
lmao she calls it an anime….>>383142
not me, I just occasionally glance over her shitty YouTube channel or FB when bored
She's referring to the anime version. She said
> I grew up on the anime little mermaid> where she died
ffs she's pretty damn clear on that. She's probably giddy that y'all got something so trivial wrong and will use it as an example of how ~inaccurate~ this website is.
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Raven's already admitted she makes stuff up for these threads. The real question is what she's been making up. MY money goes on her catching Logan watching porn. It fits her style to degrade and humiliate her most beloved for asspats and views.
I don't think she makes anything up to play with us, that was just something she said to justify reading here in the first place. Raven is honest in the way she doesn't lie about what is going on - because she feels everything intensely she doesn't hide that something happened. She may lie or tell the 'truth' as she sees it about what happened, but that is to make herself be the wronged party. She doesn't cover up or make up events, just mis-reports them.
Really the only time she tried to mess with everyone was when she faked her own death a while back. Even then she told her version of events as 'oh that was my ONLINE death, not my real death' even though she had Dorian's FB reporting death and family updates posting as if it was an actual insulin injected suicide.
I dont think she would want to do something that would make her husband look bad. It doesnt fit her idea of how she got a amazing goff guy to date her. Admitting he watches porn is admitting she cannot control him. She wouldnt think of it.
It also wouldnt make sense to lie to her "real" audience, since she believes she has fans. She isnt smart enough to plan, even this shit was her making up stupid statuses and vague ig pic captions to "fool" us or whatever.
You have to remember this is a person who thinks we all stalk her, and that having her on fb means we obsess about her all the time. She has no concept of what people actually are doing.
I highly doubt she has made up anything (as opposed to the usual twisting the truth bullshit) she's just not that bright or forward-thinking.
The real question is, what's got her so salty? She spends a lot of time just trundling along and doing her own thing, then this sudden flurry of 'trolling' … Massive deflection or farmers just getting too on point with criticisms?
Gonna agree with>>383753
She wore the dress forever ago, I don't think Emily would copy Raven though. There's only so many gawfick clothing sellers, and even fewer clothing items that look halfway decent
I think that she has hit a low point with whatever the massive secret was that she couldnt talk about. She was felling bad/depressed and thought coming here for some self flagellation was a good idea. Raven self destructs and sabotages herself often. I think it's down to her BPD.
There is a cycle to the behaviour: she feels down, beats herself up emotionally, comes here for more negativity, gets outraged on what people are saying, posts victim statements about how unfairly horrible everyone is to her, receives asspats from the hugboxers she erects, feels better from this 'proof' she is loved.
Rinse and repeat. Manic lolcows do it all the time. Its the Social Media Circle Of Cowism.
There is an old little mermaid cartoon from 1975 that's drawn in an anime style. It's not that great. I think she's just boasting about watching it because it's closer to the real little mermaid fairy tale. I remember a friend in back in highschool a friend told me with pride, that she prefered the real Cinderella where the step sisters feet get cut off. I'd heard of it before, and she proceeded to act like she was the ONLY one that had heard of it and how 'edgy' it was compared to Disney. It's a hipster bullshit things. Raven wants to show that she's the BIGGEST mermaid fan. In her head, she probably thinks it makes her cool. I KNOW THE OG LITTLE MERMAID. IN ANIME FORM. MUST MORE EDGY AND TASTEFUL THAN THAT MAINSTREAM DISNEY CRAP.
I don't know. That's the vibe I get. Sage for for going on a rant, because I've seen the shitty cartoon she's referring to.
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"Showing off her weight loss" yet again, child bride not giving you attention Raven? It looks like the corset couldn't do up fully over her fat lower back lulz
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lulz! Why do these rules not apply to her ex, who is STILL leaving lewd comments on her whore photos? She craves the attention these perverts are giving her, don't kid yourself Raven.
>"I like to be respected not only as a woman but as a person in general"
Says the anti feminist…
Also she's made yet another profile for fuck knows what reason?
Let's stop calling it weight loss progress and just call it as it is–stripping.
She's stripping in front of a camera because she got a little taste of attention from a body she didn't have for almost all her life, but forgot to not throw away her self-respect and humility in the process. >>381213
Now she looks like a salty ass hypocrite who clearly loves the slut game as long as she benefits from it. >>382114
It wasn't cool looking slutty when she was fat before because thinner girls always got the attention.
She still doesn't get a lot of male attention, which is why she's hamfisting these fetishy pictures. She already knows men won't give her the time of day with her clothes on given that she's a leech, tatted up, untalented, and has no education or work under her belt. Pft, what even is her personality. So maybe acting like a worthless hole online fulfills her sense of 'purpose' while she disguises that as a celebration of weight loss. Even though no fatties take inspiration from her, who would?
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I like that she just slapped a spider on top of her head for decoration kek. >>384776
A new profile page or just another goff boys page?
pmsl, she must think she looks so gothically elegant and classy there, no Raven you look a fucking mess. The awful tattoos, the cheap dress, the tatty hair and the spider. Why the spider?? It's like she thought "what more could I add to this look to goff it up? A stupid ass toy spider on my head!" She's legit retarded I swear. She even said she doesn't like spiders, making it more dumb.
>A new profile page or just another goff boys page?
A new profile, called "Raven Diana"
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Yet they can't even afford bread
Hey! Raven unblocked me! I didnt know she unblocked people. >>385148
I think it's really weird to keep buying you ex expensive things. Like, staying friends is fine, but I'd be so uncomfortable if my ex showered me in gifts. She's so unbelievably entitled.
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Just constantly complaining about fast food and gaining asspats from "fans"
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Why is she always
so rude to people? She can't take any criticism at all can she, pathetic
raven is so gloriously retarded <3
also, '2 days of food' wtf?
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getting past the debate about eating old fast food (lol) how is there going to be leftovers or whatever from a burger and fries? Raven could put away 5 or 6 of those no problem.
In any case, I just hope she Logan keep the toy from his Happy Meal, poor kid deserves that much at least
It's all bs. Something for us to try and freak out over more than likely>>385810
Uhhh no you can't unless you sell your food stamps to people for cash and then use that cash at McDonalds but that's illegal.
Hot food cannot be bought with food share.
So, no, this is false.
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Is food share the version of EBT over there? I wasn't trying to imply both programs work the same, just that people on assistance generally don't suffer from fast food costs. >>385824>>385866
My naive fellow Murricans…>http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/business/2011/09/fast-food-chains-getting-into-the-food-stamp-act/
But silly, that would require prioritizing needs over wants, or being capable of feeling gratitude, or not being a disgusting worthless slovenly cunt. And that's so not Raven.>>386048>https://www.fns.usda.gov/snap/eligible-food-items
>Households CANNOT use SNAP benefits to buy:>Food that will be eaten in the store>Hot foods
Some state/county/city-level food assistance programs allow fast food to be purchased, but the federal program absolutely doesn't.
>>386300>Food that will be eaten in the store>Hot foods
Yeah, from grocery stores, anon.
I worked at a grocery store a few years back and nobody could use EBT for carry out. But, as it states in the article you posted, restaurants and franchised locations can apply to accept EBT in some states.
Other anons said it can't be done at all, which isn't true.
Nope, but I'm willing to bet "I don't hate women now, I empower them!" was in there somewhere, all the while still
calling women whores and sluts on her social media. Lulz.
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I can't imagine hating myself enough to think that this looks good.
My ankles hurt looking at this. I mean sure she has sausages that are her overly ample stumps into what would otherwise be sexy fetish type wear (I assume I'm boring)… but the boots… she has laced them so tight around what could be the size of an upper arm for most young ladies of healthy BMI.
Oh Raven, you've a tragic monkey face and your child bride.. dollars to donuts (your thighs tell me you love em!) he still lusts after cheerleaders in porno. Something you never had a chance to be… ever.
However, no anachan I support her fat ass in taking the weight off. Too bad she thinks she's looking good. Rant over.
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Just for comparison, this is on a model. Raven probably can't see the difference lol
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But here she claims they're too big!
You know you're doomed when your legs still look like deformed sausages when wearing black.
Btw has she gotten fatter? Thought she was in a weight loss regime
The stockings are probably too long for her stubby legs. Christ Raven we know you're delusional but even you must feel them cutting into your fat thighs.>>388512
Her idea of a weight loss regime is just getting weight loss surgery and continuing to eat like shit. Even if she does something at the gym, other than stare at her ex working out, with the way she eats she'd never lose weight or even maintain it. Have you seen her cooking videos?
Lol you always see people who are thin thinking they're fat, but rarely hear about it the other way around. Raven takes delusional to a whole new level
>Her idea of a weight loss regime is just getting weight loss surgery and continuing to eat like shit.
Exactly, dumb bitch thought weight loss surgery would make her look like a stick, her own words
Satanic Sausages. I'd run a stall at ren fairs named this, all pork sausages of course. >>388949
Her absence didn't last very long…
New update video because she got 1000 new followers.
Doesn't like the way she looks so has the camera focusing on a mannequin the entire time.
Has redyed her hair blue because green washes out as soon as she washes her hair which ended up green anyway
Has upcoming videos planned such as shoe videos, another tattoo vlog and other such content including something "controversial" that she's going to film but not post. (Why tho)
Called it. I'm just surprised it was quicker than I suspected. Or are these including the kittens she just a little over a month ago?
These are the types of people who don't need to get pets. They're a lifelong investment. "It costs a lot to move them" well no shit. You knew you wanted to move well before the cat had kittens.
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Who else thought that tattoo was a gapping hairy vagina?
If that's meant to be an eye it's terribly distorted and badly done, but then again she's covered in awful tattoos anyway so why am I surprised? And why is it every time
she gets a new shitty tattoo she has to be half naked to show it off? Stop eye raping us with your saggy granny tits Raven
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First thought: looks like a leech's mouth
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Yup, looks like a hairy armpit
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Only showing her necklaces, totally not showing off her saggy tits for the attention she craves from her boy husband. Kek
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Fucking hell this bitch is so basic-Hot Topic-mall goth. The AMAZING necklace (pic attached) she's gushing over is just one of Alchemy 1977's pieces, and not even one of the more interesting ones. Tack-o-rama.
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He wrote to emily to she posted some thing about it on her page but it's gone now
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This Ozzy Osbourne cosplayer dude is clearly having a stroke while he writes this.
(I hope, otherwise it's a bit sad for Raven the only person she can get to be obsessed with her is a mental defective).
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She looks like a $5 tranny hooker. Has she put on weight to?
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'I'm not a whore but here's a picture of my pussy'
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I cannot get screen shots at the moment because my iPad is being a butch but she and that Joshua Bradley dude seem to be involved in a long distance relationship - he is in South Carolina - and have been shitting up his feed with I love you-I love you more, our love is destiny bullshit.
I am going to try again to get screenshots but for the love of god someone please also try to save this shit because it may mean our little goth boy bride finally ran far, far away.
"I know how exactly how you feel"
Well I'm glad they have the same IQ. A match!
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I feel strangely sad for him, wasting those years and being tossed aside in the BPD cycle, buuuuut maybe he got the hell away from her and so she's flung herself at someone else to deal with the sense of abandonment.
But yeah odds on this being a joke with a mate.
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calling it as bait. she's been playing hard for the attention lately (more than usual)
i think she secretly had this guy as a side piece for some time on the DL and being with him was the reason why she was trying to move back to States, because she doesn't strike me as the sort of person who could break up with her child bride in a civil manner or move halfway round the globe just because fancy stroke her.
sage for tinfoil hat.
Can you imagine being married to someone who sees your marriage as just one more thing to use to play BPD games? For most people their spouse is the most important person on earth. They would never engage in machinations to deceive the "trolls" that might cause their spouse distress. Raven is such a crazy piece of shit that it's impossible not to wonder if she is staging something that even if not real could make Logan uncomfortable, facing weird questions from family and friends not in on the joke, feeling his marriage devalued even more as he becomes just another tribute in the Borderline Hunger Games.
But this is the woman who used her son or at least used her son's identity when she fake suicide. The feelings of the people who may love her mean nothing to her.
Run Logan, run!
Exactly. Fake or not, Raven, you are a piece of shit. We all know you're reading here, sorry I mean "your friend" (like you have any that can read lmao).
Whatever it is, Logan good luck.
Ah yes, this guy is exactly Raven's type – much goth! Very long hair! Wow skinny!
I mean, how could she not fall in love with such a perfect alt guy????
I hope it's real because this level of attention-whoring, trying to keep her so-called bullies paying attention is so pathetic, so sad, it's not even funny anymore. How empty must her life be.
Yeah I think it's bait.
what the fuck kind of backdrop is this for this dress? gothic mediocre beach princess? it's not a bad dress, even on her (tho she needs to pull it up a bit and could desperately use heels so she's not dragging the hem like a train), but what the fuck even is this supposed to be? what went through her mind to make her go "yes let me take this likely expensive dress and go stand out in the middle of the beach in bare feet looking angry?" she could have at least cropped it?
sage for being triggered
by the thought of wet sand getting ground into the bottom of that dress for four inches
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So what do we reckon - bait or milk? Moo or man?
Like many other anons, I think it's bait. But if it isn't, I'll donate a few bucks to Logan to get the shitty tattoos related to her lasered off/covered up and for the years of therapy he's going to need.>>397985
This isn't even the worst thing she's done to her "fans." She has literally faked her own suicide just for a reaction from us.
I actually think Raven and her child bride splitting might be legit. Yes, she does go out of her way to feed her threads, but right now I wouldn't be shocked if she was pushing the breakup "drama" to not only get attention, but is trying to shove it in a "look what you did" kind of way.
I just feel things were spontaneous with things like her fake suicide, but little hints here and there made me think this was coming like when >>393691
points out she describes the exact opposite of her child bride.
I think it is legit too. Raven doesn't know how to fake this type of stuff because she wears her heart on her sleeve at all times.
What else did she expect from Logan? He was a kid when they hooked up and never had a chance to gain any life experience to deal with stress or learn how to be in a relationship. His video q&a's were full of immature stupid shit. The only thing he knows is to follow along in Raven's wake and do what she says.
I feel bad for them, because breakups are never pleasant, but secretly full of glee at the milk that will be gushing our way.
Interesting is that she has this on one account but her marshall acct still is married to Logan (who clearly never used his fb). But she shared the video of the break up to all accounts and her ex commented on it, which makes it a bit lor real.
You are Welcome Raven, lolcow is always here to tell you that your relationships are doomed. We are happy you took our advice.
See, if this was true I'd feel happy for Logan, finally free from her clutches and now has the chance to live out a normal life without her. Granted he is a bit of a dick but perhaps that's Raven's doing more than anything? Picking up her traits, parroting her thoughts, etc… However, I can't feel that way because I have a nagging feeling it's bait, and that she only put out the video because the majority of us knew she was lying about it. If this woman can deceive her own "fans" by faking her suicide, why wouldn't she do this? Also notice in the video, besides all the contradictions of course, that she blames this website for the "break up". I think it's all bull to try and guilt trip us, just like the suicide thing - her way of saying "see, all of you trolls bitching about us would've caused this!!" Hoping I'm wrong though and it is true!
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If this break up is just bait, it's super disrespectful towards Logan and her followers just to try and prove something to us. Also, how can she blame us for breaking them up? If Logan wanted out, that's his choice, he's an adult now and not a child anymore. If it is real, I'm willing to bet it's due to Logan not wanting to move and her being a pissbaby over it so instead she finds one of her followers that gives her the much needed attention she wants to use them to get back to the states and I give it a few months after she moves there, she'll leave him too.
Completely agree, but it wouldn't be surprising considering the fake suicide stunt she pulled years ago. If she can manipulate and play with peoples emotions over her own death
then she'd more than likely to do this too. Highly ironic in her video she basically says that Logan "still" doesn't like "sluts" and that girls should keep away from him - even when broken up (supposedly) she still wants to control him? Yet it's fine that she moved on the second they split (likely had this guy in her sights before anyway). She's fucking vile, honestly. Also what's with the teenage lovey shit? You're 40 years old, acting like a teenager/young adult isn't going to make you one Raven.
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She's in a relationship with dude. Already.
Keep up anon lol
Are we not forgetting she branded Logan for life with that tattoo? At least it looks nothing like her and he can just pass it off as a pin up tattoo, but hopefully a decent artist (i.e. not the kitchen scratcher Raven goes to) will be able to cover it up with something
>>398039>Highly ironic in her video she basically says that Logan "still" doesn't like "sluts" and that girls should keep away from him - even when broken up (supposedly) she still wants to control him?
This is why I really think this is bait since why would you care who he talks to when you've supposedly mutually decided to break up and are already with someone else?
If this is real, I really hope Logan (and Dorian) blocks all contact with her when she leaves. I could definitely see her trying to control him and keep him around to use him like she does with her one ex that buys shit for her.>>398042>Appears to (possibly) have a kid
Jesus Christ, I hope if this is real that it's not his kid. Looking at the way she treats her own biological son, just imagine how much worse she would be to a kid from another woman.
>I call it that she's only with him to use him for her move back to the states then she'll be on to whatever alt guy will have her when everything's sorted there
I think she will do that too.
I agree, I think it is real.
It's funny she blames us when this thread was dead for months and she brings it back to life herself.
Can't wait til she moves to America and she starts whinging about how nothing is how she remembers lol
I can't stand cunts like her, they can't take responsibility for anything and always have to shift the blame on someone else, making themselves appear completely innocent of any wrongdoing. With those types, it's always everyone else that's the problem and not them. Fuck off with that shit Raven, you only have yourself to blame. You just hate us because we don't suck up to you and see you for what you really are. I mean really, what did she expect marrying a CHILD? That combined with her extreme jealousy and possessiveness, the relationship was doomed from the start. She said CJ fucked her over but what she did to Logan far outweighs that - she robbed him of his youth, became so possessive and jealous to the point that he wasn't allowed to have any females as friends, spent his money on tacky toys and tattoos, branded him for life with shitty ink AND took slutty photos for other men to look at. To top that all off, she announces she's with another guy immediately after they split. What does that say about you Raven? You were so worried about a "slut" stealing him but those fears were really just projections of what you're like. You're the only slut here.
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Receipts from her current social media shenanigans. From what I can see, they have been publicly talking since 6/5. Mind you, she's already updated her last name to include his, on facebook at least, kek
If it's not true, she has ascended to a whole new level of bat shit insane. >pretending to have divorced your husband and flirting with your new fake bf on fb>to get back at all those meanie trolls
It's almost too good to be true, I hope it's all fake. Because then it's one of the funniest things any cow has done, faked a divorce and a new husbando to thwart all the meanie trolls.
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Very true. His profile on youtube is dedicated to her, and app games. And we all know how much Raven loves herself and those games.
The writing style seems similar, but not enough to convince me that she's master minded all this, yet.
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Fucking hell, PLEASE let this be fake, I refuse to believe two "adults" would act so sickly-sweet retarded on a public forum. It's like listening to a conversation between two inmates in a psycho ward! Totally vomit-inducing.
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Raven, you are legally married and may have been deprecated for a month tops. That is cheating. Sorry to burst your bubble on that but you aren't even living apart yet.
Useless cunts but…what does she do? Oh wait, she whines 24/7. Okay, I guess I can see why that's a full time job for her. It's funny how she and her new guy are in love but she's still living with Logan. That's what people in the real world consider cheating. She's far too old to be doing this teenage drama.
We won't have to "take him away" from her. She's going to drive him away without us doing a thing.
Just how dumb is she? At 16 you're still growing and developing physically and mentally, what the fuck did she expect?! "Not mature enough" my ass, he was just a teenager and had only one relationship before her, at 13 fucking years old no less, hardly serious was it? >>398105
Interesting, I never considered it could just be her faking him. Wouldn't put it past her
Is this Joshua bloke the sponsor they had planned to live with?
She talks as if they have been talking about divorce for a while. Maybe this is why Logan looked sour in so many vids, seemed depressed. Or maybe he does just have resting sad face and this has only developed recently because mah BPD impulsiveness, devalu