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Logan isn't allowed to have any girls on his friends list.
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The therapists must have had a field day with poor Dorian. Imagine what it would be like, hearing the kid talk about his home life. No wonder he's "troubled".
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This is the guy from England she was engaged to. Not mind safe. I heard he was banned from a bunch of goth clubs for being a creeper.
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He posted about hearing Raven and Logan having sex.
Mother of SHIT
, you weren't kidding.
Any pictures of the first three husbands?>>12358
I want to adopt this poor kid and give him nice things and a normal life
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I don't think they'll necessarily divorce as many here are quick to claim. He seems to be a very submissive type and perhaps the fact that she's older makes him feel superior because of how unconventional such a relationship is.
I saw a 'my strange addictions' style show the other day where there was a woman who was in her 50s with a man in his late 20s. They had been together for 7 years or so. It's creepy, sure, but it can and does work.
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I was skimming through some comments on her vids and saw her make a comment to the effect of "I would never date/never dated guys who had sisters because it's too probable they had an incestual relation".
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None of the first two but this is her third. He's also younger than her but not by so much. She was early 30's and he was late teens/very early 20's. They got married very quickly because she was homeless in America and he was willing to pay for her to come live with him in New Zealand. They weren't even dating, he was just obsessed with her and she was opportunistic.
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Incestuous not incestual, sorry.
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She claims her third husband raped her. The day after this supposedly happened someone I know saw them together in a store. She wasn't injured at all and they were cuddling and acting all loved-up.
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Another guy who she claims tried to rape her.
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Logan beat Dorian with Raven's dildo.
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After the English fiance dumped her she un-friended everyone who was in a relationship.
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Naked and covered in fake blood
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She says her baby doll is more important to her than Dorian, and she wishes she had an abortion.
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WTF what if it really happened tho?
Here's a summary of one of her tl;dr life stories I made for another site a few years ago
- Grew up in a trailer park in the USA
- Had a female cousin who would try to penetrate her with her toes at sleep overs.
- Her dad was a transvestite who took pictures of her half-sister in the shower.
- Attributes her precocious puberty to being sexually abused (although she doesn't remember this happening).
- Forced by her step mother to eat rancid food her step sisters had hidden in her room.
- Step mother made her lay naked on her bed with the door open, guests saw her.
- Her father would hand cuff her step mother and step sister to each other, then rape her step mother
- At age 12, was raped by a 17 year old boy her and her friend met by calling random houses. This apparantely made her friend jealous.
- Boyfriend arranges to have his brother rape her so he could have an excuse to break up with her. Also the brother who raped her was her friend's boyfriend.
- Almost raped by a guy who went on to murder his brother.
- Her ex boyfriend and 6 of his friends got her friend stoned and gang raped her. Her friend accused her of being a satanist because of this.
- Bit a chunk out of the leg of a psychiatric hospital staff member.
- Was a devil worshiper and had a small cult in El Paso. Tortured animals and kept their body parts in her room.
- Jehovah’s Witnesses performed an exorcism on her because of her self-harm scars.
- Was gang raped by a Mexican, Asian, African American, and a white guy - a rainbow rape! The African American guy's girlfriend beat her up at school the next day because he claimed it was consensual.
- Raped by her friend's crush in her sleep, as her friend watched on crying.
- Walked in on her boyfriend fucking his sister.
- Suffocated her baby to stop it crying.
- Used coke and 5 tabs of LSD daily.
- Her roomate's husband tried to force her to give him a blow job, then paid her $20 to keep quiet about it.
- Her boyfriend's cousin told him she'd cheated on him… because the cousin was into incest and wanted to fuck her boyfriend.
- Her first husband banned her from changing her son's diaper, as the baby looked like his father and he thought she'd get turned on.
- Tairrie B. from My Ruin called them twins when they met.
- Found a receipt for porn in her second husband's pocket, narked to his parents about it.
- Almost raped by her second husband but the cops didn't believe her because she's fat.
- Her boyfriend had an incestuous relationship with his niece.
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I will never understand men.
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WTF why would she blame her son like that?…>>12383
I hope they were being lolsorandom and not actually serious…
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Thank you for telling us about her anon. This is drama gold.
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She got this tattoo of her English fiances name before they'd even met irl.
PT should get one over at ikea, she desperately needs it
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More nudes and gross pictures incoming. Have you eye bleach ready.
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she looks like a basset hound. droopy eyes, droopy cheeks, droopy tits, droopy belly.
I have a harness really similar to that and holy shit do I feel awesome about my body right now! Thanks Raven!
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I'm gonna spoiler her ex-fiance because he is so gross to look at.
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Jesus christ anon you gave me a heart attack.
Boze kochany wiesz jak bardzo mnie to straszylo jak bylam mala?
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Ha ok sorry, we called it buka too in poland.
Buka does look like Raven a lot. The resemblance is uncanny.
I think it's mainly that one anon who knew her for years who is providing the gossip.
Apparently she has been a lolcow for years.
we call her Mörkö in finnish actually, I just googled the pic and didn't change the name>>12457
I knew I knew his face from somewhere!
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This is way to tl;dr but at the bottom she posted her self harm like some 14 year old
jfc I get so tired reading through her shit.
Bitch needs to learn how to edit.
If this was a "you rage you lose" thread I would have already lost.
I hope he can get out of there ASAP and get some college education or a good job.
Also it looks like Logan has a decent job because he bought her a pretty expensive ring. I felt sorry for him since he'll be pulling all the weight in that family.
Has she ever held down a job before?
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Nasty bitch posts her nudes on Facebook for all to see.
eww why does this sad fucking goths keep using my mothertongue because they think it's edgy? arghughughughugh
stop it. german is a beautiful language when spoken correctly jeesh. this misconception that we all sound like guttural deathmetal singers bugs the fuck out of me.
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The title says it all.
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A picture of her and Dorian
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A picture of Raven when she was 19 years old
Thank you anon
But wait she's not a slut.
jfc some people.
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who's this? brother or husband#1?
Who is this Lorelei she started posting about (and cover photo)?https://www.facebook.com/Vv.Raven.vV
Did they just fucking adopt a baby? Fucking call child services.
"So I was wondering…How many of you thought Lorelei was a real baby? Do you think she looks realistic? What did you think when you saw the photos go up?"
I guess Lorelei is a hyper-realistic doll? How the hell do they afford to live?
>So here it is:
>You asked me who Lorelei is? She's my baby.
>Doll, that is. Some of you guessed it- yes, she is a Reborn, created for me by Memory Dolls by Marilyn (https://www.facebook.com/memorydolls). >Why a Reborn? Well, I did make a video explaining this but haven't uploaded it yet so I'll give a short answer here. After trying unsuccessfully for nearly 18 years to have a baby (and failing through heartbreaking losses), I've been burdened with anguish and depression. All around me it seems everyone is pregnant, and on their 2nd (or more) rounds. No one will surrogate for us. Adoption is HARD- especially when you're alternative, and when there is a 19 year age gap between you and your spouse. Not to mention my one son is a massive failure as a human being and I'm kind of terrified of having a child that turns out as horrible as he did. Lorelei will never grow up, never grow old…get sick or die. I know she isn't real, and trust me- only a few months ago I was one of those people looking down my nose at women who adopted these dolls. I thought it was sick and just weird. Though to be honest some of them are a bit strange hahaha…I would never have bath time or feeding time or schedules, acting like she's real in those ways. I want to hold her and cuddle her and just be able to look down at a beautiful sleeping baby in my arms, until the time comes where I no longer need her.
I do hope you all understand, but if you don't and choose to look down on me, that's your problem and yours to deal with alone. I don't need to further justify myself or my actions. She is absolutely gorgeous and I couldn't be happier
I would find everything about this woman hilarious if it weren't for the way she treats Dorian.
…and then claims to have had 'abusive' parents and that she wanted to be 'the mother she never had' for him.
>>12568>my one son is a massive failure as a human being and I'm kind of terrified of having a child that turns out as horrible as he did
you fucking BITCH guess why he's like that? because your lazy ass raised him like that!
Oh my god I feel so bad for Dorian
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Someone loves playing a victim for attention
>Not to mention my one son is a massive failure as a human being and I'm kind of terrified of having a child that turns out as horrible as he did.
Fucking bitch, I feel no pity for her.
Too bad calling child service is too late, since Dorian is 20, I think. I seriously hope he gets away from her.
If anyone has read Oyasumi Punpun, she reminds me of Aiko's mother, except goffic.
I'm raging again. I thought this was a prime lolcow but the way she treats her son is worse than Margaret (dirt eating kid) treated Kaylen (?) in some regards because she's constantly putting him down.
I imagine too he must not have many friends and the only one he did make ended up being his step-dad.
Dorian now lives with his girlfriend and her family and refuses to have anything to do with Raven. Good for him.>>12611
Yeah it's pretty expensive to live here. Those prices include 15% tax. Her and Logan are living off his minimum wage job so it's harder for them than most people. Raven says she can't work because of diabetes, not that anyone would hire her anyway.
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I think she uses skin bleach. How else do you explain how this >>12535
became this in six years?
He left her and lives with his girlfriend, according to anon.
That's probably one of the reasons.
>Why do you want another kid so badly? Why does it have to be a baby and not just any kid?
>I want another baby for many reasons! One is that I never got to experience what it would be like to have a baby with someone you love- with the dad even in the picture. When I got pregnant with Dorian, I was 17 (very young for back then) and had been on the pill. I didn't want kids nor plan on having any, but once I got pregnant I knew it would be wrong to abort him, so that was never an option. His dad obviously never wanted a kid either, as he dumped me when he found out. So I was basically all alone, 17 and lost, with my mom telling me to abort, no job, no friends, no dad in the picture, no options. My pregnancy wasn't a happy one. I had no one to share it with. My family wasn't at all happy, and my mom didn't even let me touch my stomach as she thought I'd "spoil the baby". I want to experience it with someone. The growing, the first kicks. Holding the baby in the hospital. Having the proud Daddy watch his child grow up- being a FAMILY. When I gave birth, I was put into a room with two other women. Both had the baby's dad's come visit, friends, family. I had my mom once, my therapist once, and a girl who didn't even like me came to ridicule me. It was sad and very disappointing. When he came out, they didn't even tell me if it was a boy or a girl, and my mom was the one who got to hold him! I never had a chance to bond with him either, which helps with the whole "I'm more like a friend to him" thing. I want to have a baby in the traditional way, and not be "friends" with it. I didn't even get to experience Dorian's first steps, or his first words. I missed everything. I was basically a body. This is why it has to be a baby, not a toddler or an older child. This is why I'd rather have a surrogate if possible, and not adopt.
This dumb ducking cow.
Its your fault that you see him as a friend.
I'm not saying you can't be really great friends with your parents, cause you can, but they're your parent first.
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What is that from?
Also why can't this bitch like chill when she meets someone.
Oh fuck this bitch. If she's even
telling the truth here, the reason her family didn't want her to have any interactions with baby Dorian is because they KNEW SHE IS FUCKING CRAZY.
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>>12568>Not to mention my one son is a massive failure as a human being and I'm kind of terrified of having a child that turns out as horrible as he did.
What a bint. Worst mother of the year award contender.
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At least Catherine (the great) loved her son. Sure she's a crazy raw vegan hippie, but she wanted what's best for her son in her own twisted way. At least he was loved. At least she ate that dirt with him.
What this goffick bitch is doing is just horrid and inexcusable. She is so self absorbed it's no wonder her gran took her kids away. She would've probably killed her kid from neglect.
>Tattoo of the Invader Zim symbol
That's hilarious, because she argues that she's not a goffic stereotype.
>Are you Goth?
>Lol, no. I don't consider myself goth anyway..not with what it's become, and with these babybats thinking Manson is Goth, or Evanescence is Goth…Not with Emilie Autumn and her plague rats ruining music for everyone. Most Goth music sucks. The scene itself is now blurred- too many influences and crossovers. I was once considered an Elder goth- one of the early ones, back when no one really knew what we were, our clothes were hard to find and unique, Hot Topic was Goth and Spencers was close. When you never saw or heard the term "emo" being used to describe anything, much less everything…and when you only ever saw a few Goths out in the daytime, and seeing one was like seeing some exotic animal out in the wild. It was new(ish) and exciting, and some of us set the mark for the others to follow, and those others have tarnished and destroyed and made a mockery of it to where I'm happier not being considered goth at all. I'm just me. My style has never been traditional "Goth" anyway- I've always done my own thing
Oh my god I just remembered a person i knew. She looked a lot like Raven, especially the nose - it's uncanny. She was not that bad but forever jobless and lazy, having an unwanted child put up for adoption because she was simply too lazy to do anything that would have prevented a pregnancy, others were aborted.
I'm just kinda glad I'm not a goth anymore. This subculture attracts trainwrecks like no other… at least where I am from.
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>>12662>elitist goff shit
oh my god she's 37?
Where the hell does she get this money for all this ink?
TFW shitty people like invader zim, and you like it too.
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This guy pays for it. His location says he's from Texas but I suspect it's this guy >>12370
cause he always uses profiles with no/fake information.
From her wedding page.
I remember her saying she had to ask random people on some wedding facebook group to come to her wedding since her and Logan didn't seem to have any friends apparently.
Then she gets mad at someone who decided to help and calls them "random filler"
Was Hot Topic ever "respectable" in any way? I was under the impression that it started out selling cheap shitty raver gear and Nightmare before christmas merch. Has their shit ever been quality in any way?
I'm European and I have lots of friends who are in their late 30s/early 40s and very active in the local Goth scene. They spend incredible amounts of money on their clothes, especially things like corsets and they're super neat and classy people. I gonna have to introduce them to Raven.
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What an evil cunt. She claims to be so alt and that she doesn't give a fuck, but then she wants to have a wedding with tonnes of people, caring about her popularity like some preppy teenager.
She can't even be consistent with her goth alt bullshit.
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Yep, there's plenty of really cool goth, rave, punk alt etc. people out there. Especially older ones who tend to have more experience so they're cool to talk to.
As for raven I think she must have a hole in her skull because how did she reach age 36 and not wisen up at least a bit.
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I know he grew up in the mall goth scene and probably likes that aesthetic but I really hope he's not dating his mom.
Does she get paid for her photos?
Or is she an alt model wannabe?
She looks just like his mom.
I think the kid has been so tucked up that he might just find someone just like her. Poor kid.
Earlier this day both of them were active.
Now that I look into it, facebook profiles posted here >>12689
were all working but now a good number of them are deleted? (mostly Logan and Raven's various profiles, Dorian is still there)
Did someone link her to this thread or something?
Not that anon, but no.
But some people will pay to see anything.
It's only a matter of time, there's always that one retard who does it sooner or later.
Same happened with saxy.
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Some drama over a Facebook game group is the reason for her profiles being deleted.
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Threatening to kill herself for the hundredth time.
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Im gonna go a head and guess that woman in the grey jacket is an extra.http://www.mywedding.com/ravenandlogan/galleries.html
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You know that EverEve modeling agency Raven (or someone else) keeps watermarking her pictures with? Several models are calling Evereve a scam. It more than likely is since they don't have an actual agency or even a website.
The guy she's arguing with sounds like a tool (though of course I take all of what she says with a grain of salt), but wtf?? replying to "why is your occupation mass murderer" with a link to PHOTOS OF YOUR ABUSE???
And she fucking wonders why people think she's psycho. What an obnoxious attention whore.
While I'm not about to accuse her of lying about her abuse without proof, the way she just HAS to let EVERYONE know about her HARDSHIPS just tells me she probably starts shit just so she has a story to whine about later.
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Ugh I hate when people do this shit.
Its rude as fuck.
How do you hold that shit in.
Like how that was a 10 min rant over someone calling her a freak.
Like yeah you shouldn't judge someone on looks,but face it people do it.
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tryhard cunt. you're pushing 40 and acting like a 12 year old and still has the nerve to act as though she is some sort of forefather to the goth scene? fuck man i hate her so bad
i know someone in real life kind alike her but this lady takes the dial up to 15 with my rage levels
you caring doesn't mean that other people feel the same way. lmao.
it's stupid anyway to be attached to the persons dead body after they die. they have left their body which was only a meatbag vessel for their soul anyway.
graveyards are kind of wierd too, other animals when they die, their bodies go back to the earth but ours get put in sealed boxes. i guess for sanitation reasons.
olol it looks like something she made herself, no way would someone be that unimaginative and lame with insults
then again she did get trolls from le reddit so who knows
your calling me a shitty person bc i don't think like you do. ok. i think you're confused because tumblr is the least "fuck ur feelings" type of place. they love feelings.
just face it. a dead body is a dead body. they're dead. no one here cares about your dead relative or whatever.
if your that obsessed with their dead body go dig em up and lay by their rotting corpse.
also fuck mormons and idgaf about anne frank wth does she have to do with anything.
>>13394>half an hour of this ugly fuck sobbing
fuck me I am not watching this>>13397
someone's calling you a shitty person because you don't understand why you might want to consider the feelings of those grieving. people with poor empathy are commonly seen as bad people. are you suprised? your immaturity shows. I think it would be best if you stopped making yourself look bad, because you will probably grow up eventually.
First racism in that other thread now this shit. You guys can go and discuss this on /b/. Stop shitposting. It's not relevant to the thread.>>13399
Yeah, just skip to the end, that's the good bit, where she looks at the fake hate blog.
oh give me a fucking break you don't know me. i understand someone being sad about someone dying. if you had read the comments properly you would see this was about graveyards, posing on graves, and the burial of the dead body.
it's not my fault this bitch decided to cry about being triggered or some shit cause her granny died and tell the whole world about like they're speical. and "oh boohoo i'm greiving be nice to me". go back to pull idiot.
"i'm gonna do whatever i can to hurt you"
she's making this shit up.
oh god the tags, the writing… it's glorious. like a gothic sonichu. thank you.
has she found out about this place or something yet? I know she'd flip her shit.>>13407>>13408
y'think? really? 100 % sure? they look preeetty real to me!>>13405
… yet you continue to display that you don't understand how grieving and the treatment of the remains of the deceased relate and further embarrass yourself. it's funny how you seem to think I might have misunderstood you. I'd say my judgement was fair. And just a minor nitpick, but most people outgrow the phrase "u don kno me!1!" around 14.
I'd feel bad for her if it wasn't for what she said about her son.
It just seems like she treats some people really badly, but fucking explodes when she gets even slightly cruel treatment.
She seems very narcissistic. I mean disorder-wise. She does nothing but talk shit about everyone, even her own relatives, then pretends to be the victim of it all.
How her "fans" still have her back after everything that she's said and done is absolutely baffling. Then again her fans are a bunch of fellow adult mall goths so I guess there really is no surprise.
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She took the fake baby out in public.
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Another long winded rant about hating her son.
There's no way the kid wouldn't have problems, considering what his life has been like. Raven went from one man to another to leeching off some random girls at their house to wanting to move to britain to random man in NZ.
Dorian has either been dragged around by the hand or tossed in to her parents care. He's never had any stability. Plus she's admitted to hitting him when he was small.
I love how she thinks that she's entitled to a kid that loves her. You reap what you sow, bitch
Not to mention she is currently married to his former best friend.
The kid is fucked up because of her narcissistic abuse. It's a real fucking shame and I'm really happy I don't know which FB that is because I'd go fucking irate.
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It's your lucky day Anon.
You should post the things her friends said to you.
Awesome replies, anon. Perfect logical response, in a way that tries to progress through her bullshit.
"I MOTHERED HIM TOO MUCH!" All narcissists love to play up their sacrifices to their benefit. "OH MY GOD, I SPENT MY LIFE WORRYING ABOUT HIM AND NOW HE DOESN'T CALL ME. HE'S A PIECE OF SHIT!" Uh, lady, when children separate from their parents, they're usually finding self-sufficiency. Maybe it's living with his girlfriend's parents, but removing himself from his peso, drama queen mother is a first step from avoiding scary co-dependent relationships.
Well she deleted the Facebook page she was using and is now back on https://www.facebook.com/handcuffed.and.raped
She made a closed group for goffik meet and greet https://www.facebook.com/groups/I.love.the.Darkness/
If anyone has a goth-look facebook account they should try to join.
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what a joke. no mother that utters "I wish I had aborted him" could have ever have been a good one. You should love your son no matter how he turns out
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>>13803>You should love your son no matter how he turns out
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Why does she look so much like a prostitute that's about ready to take pounding in a back alley? Oh wait, nevermind.
I kinda get that this is normal for a woman who lost a child to gt one to fill that void, but this bitch jut bought a $400 doll cause she grated her real son like shit.
And where did she get this money for the doll, we all know she didn't pay for it.
treated not grated.
And has anyone looked at the additional options on the doll site, like beating heart, umbilical cord.
She's such a vindictive bitch.
(also what link do we use to upload the YouTube videos?)
I tried that twice and each time it said my embedding code was wrong.
And I know about the YouTube line I'm not blind it just wasn't working for me I guess.
Is that her real hair or a wig? Either way, it's disgusting.>>13862
It still looks pretty damn horrifying to me.
It's god damn horrifying HOWEVER I'm thinking of getting one of these for my mother. She loves creepy baby dolls like this. Always has. Btw, my momma is crazy, but she's a good momma.
LET THE SAVING BEGIN. Thanks, Raven, you ugly bitch, I can do something cute for xmas for my mom this year.
I've been following this thread and while she sounds like an insane bitch, this kid isn't completely innocent and (assuming she's telling the truth) he seems like he needs to get his shit together. He can't blame his mother forever and if what she says is true, even only in part, even she shouldn't have to put up with all that. PT is also the result of an insane bitch of a mother but nobody cuts her slack for her irresponsibility (though she at least went to school and works) and bad smell.
However I will never, ever understand how she got a husband willing to tolerate all this bullshit, especially one so young himself who may want children in the future (and not just creepy little dolls).
Im sure the son isnt completely innocent,but I do think it comes down to how he was raised along with other elements.
But how Raven talks like hes the scum of the earth and a waste of space…I mean really.
To my understanding he's not even 18. It's not his fault at all.>>13910>40 dollars for games>"duh that's 20 games"
they're not talking video games right? what kind of game costs 2 dollars to play? an expensive arcade machine?
Urk, that whole situation reeks of unhealthyness.
Seems like he was thrown out?
As full of shit as PT is she did at least go to school and work, something this kid apparently refuses to do so he can NEET it up instead. If her whole issue was his refusing school/work because it will hurt him later and stinking then yes, she has a point.
Saying she wished she had aborted him is over the line but that doesn't mean he's off the hook either and I think she's right, he's going to end up badly if he doesn't do something about his life sooner rather than later.
But see we don't know this for sure.
Maybe he tried out for a job but never got a call back.
I'm not saying be a lazy fuck, but if they kid is doing most of the work at home cause her fat ass won't, and I beat if he got a job while he was staying there she would have just taken it and wasted it on dumb shit.
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What the actual fuck
>>13910>those commands to do everything>"i misspelled your name">"lol cause dorian got dropped on his head">that tiny, disgusting-looking cake>those pitiful gifts
Awful>>13968>threatens to take everything back to the store if he doesn't open his gifts fast enough
At least his gifts weren't too bad here
Is she for real talking shit about someone else's eyebrows?
I smell a fat jelly bitch
I agree with you. There is a mature way of doing goth. When I saw the birthday video I felt second hand embarrassment for them. I remembered when I dressed like that when I was 16, these are grown ass adults who don't know how to dress themselves.
And no wonder that kid hates her. If that is how she treats him on his birthday how does she treat him for the rest of the year? The kid looks like he just wants to leave.
Seriously. One of my closest friends is gothic and over 30 but doesn't dress like a mall goth. He just wears black, purple, and keeps the skull emblem stuff to a minimal and at home. The guy doesn't wear ridiculous makeup either. People don't take one look at him and go, "ZOMG GOFFIK!"
I'm still in disbelief over her being so shocked over how Dorian turned out. Of course a kid is going to have issues if their parents/guardians are total shitheads. I imagine it's traumatic as fuck for your mother to be fucking your former best friend. Augh god, the thought alone is enough to make one physically ill.
Ah, sorry, didn't see it was already posted on >>13394
Does anyone know what 'hate site' she's talking about, though?
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I'm sorry, anon.
Does this make it better?
Maybe he has a mommy-dom fetish.
That's really all I can think of.
I think Logan doesn't know what love is.
I also think she may have let him pork her and he thinks its meant to be.
So like, regarding Logan, why has she not been in trouble for statutory? I am assuming there is proof that he was indeed 16 or 17 when they got together. Is it because she's a woman? Because even beyond the whole statutory thing she's obviously got issues.>>14078>>14079>>14080
I am just thinking, when I was around his age, I was a fairly cute girl and found myself in a relationship with a 31 year old man. Granted, he was more attractive than Raven, but just as much a pedo loser with no job and a lot of muh problems. But yeah, he said he loved me and I didn't know much about life so it seemed legit. Same thing. I think she's moved on to kids because they won't question her actions that are on the same mental/emotional level. It's gross and pathetic.
It's funny how her captions on her wedding photos on her tumblr say things like "two months later and still going strong!" I would fucking hope so. Really says a lot about the way she views the world if still loving each other after two months of marriage is worth writing about.
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Another one of Raven's classy photos on Facebook
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Her face always looks so dirty and grey. She probably doesn't wash off her makeup properly and just slaps new stuff on the next day. I bet if you swiped her face with one of these it would come back completely black.>>13583>>13584
It sounds like she's saying that because she still loves her mom despite the abuse, her son should also love her despite the abuse. That's how family works, right? Right?
I wouldn't be surprised if he himself ends up being an abusive parent. It's a vicious cycle.
I think your right, it does look like she never fully washes all of it off.
Also it really bugs me that she takes a lot of picture/videos with her holding her hair so you can't see how fat her face is.
How low do you have to be to be so
starved for attention that you make up lies about hate sites, talk about wanting to commit suicide, and pulling the, "It's everyone else's fault!" card. This is a 40 year old woman acting like a god damn edgy 15 year old. This is some embarrassing as shit… how in the hell
were Logan's parents okay with him marrying this crazy, disgusting, fat, ugly, pedophile old hag?!
Why the fuck would you wear those boots to the beach. like what the living hell.>>14339
Cause true love anon, they saw past her fat and saw her sick pedo love for him.
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That looks creepily like a sockpuppet or highly monitored account. He has NOTHING relating to his life pr himself.
No pics of having lunch with his family, no pictures of his friends, not even a picture of the sky. It's all raven.
What really got to me was image related. That's the sort of thing bitchy women post, not young men.
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This is so sad. All his folders are about raven.
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Did a 40 year old woman really just someone a "poser"? I mean, I know she's pretending to be her husbandchild (and doing a really bad job), but still.>>14385
Ofc she is. I'm really tempted to start messaging "him" just to fuck with her.
OMG ANON DO IT
Maybe try hitting on 'him' and make sure to post the delicious rage
In her huge whiny post she says that Logan's parents tried to keep him away from her. They called the police, kept him locked up and did everything in their power to prevent this predator from their kid.
Didn't work out.
This really just her account with his name. Pathetic.>>14398
Do it and screen cap it.
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We're all stars now - in the cellulite show!
"I started my period that night, and it was a bad one. I was in such agony, it hurt to move. I was stressed out because my landlords were coming to inspect and I needed the house cleaned (that's his one shining flaw- he is a slob!) but didn't see how I would manage. He told me to rest, got me a hot water bottle, and said he would skip school the next day and stay and help me clean. Even a gesture like that, no guy in my past has ever done. My heart swelled and I thought to myself, "It just can't get any better than this", and I fell asleep in his arms. Early the next morning there was knock on my bedroom door. It was Dorian, and he said the police were at my front door. My heart sunk, but a part of me had been waiting for this. I was super nervous and really scared…not to mention mortified. We came out of the room together and the police were actually already inside, standing by the front door. They stood there looking distastefully at me, and asked what we thought we were doing. They said they had gotten reports of us being together and that I was abusive to him- had beaten him, tied him up, and was also performing disgusting sexual acts on him. I looked at them in shock and protested my innocence. It's ridiculous when people think I'm into things like that- I'm the biggest prude I know! I hate sex in movies, I hate nudity, I don't walk around naked, Logan has never seen me naked, and when he would walk around nude as boys do, I covered my eyes or looked away.Trust me, I am NOT that kind of person. The cops shook their heads at me, and one took him outside while the other sat me down to question me. He said what I was doing wasn't against the law, but it was morally wrong, and I should be ashamed of myself. I tried my best to explain how happy we were and how…pure…our love was (for lack of a better word)."
>>14418>I'm the biggest prude I know! I hate sex in movies, I hate nudity, I don't walk around naked, Logan has never seen me naked
Please tell me this was posted before she took all those pictures posted upthread? I can't imagine anyone thinking that >>12441
is perfectly innocent and not indicative of deviant sexual shenanigans.
Nah. I've always had a thing for goth shit, but I've never really dressed like it. This is fucking painful.>>14418>Logan has never seen me naked>they've clearly had sex
dense as fuck
I wonder if she is physically abusive. Wouldn't suprise me, honestly.
That passage from their wedding page is what disgusted me the most. It reads exactly like what a god damn child predator would say and it's fucking sickening.>>14402
I can't even imagine how disgusted they were. If that were my child, I'd probably end up in prison for making sure he's safe from this fucking pedophile.
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Go ahead. Let's milk this lolcow.
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I know one person who's arguably trugoth. People who dress this way don't seem to enjoy the stuff usually associated with gothic. I genuinely enjoy a fair deal of the stuff, but I don't think I'd call myself goth, even though I sometimes love muh edge.>>14445>being a girl>trying to add him for whatever reason
good luck, she has him so whipped she won't allow it. but try, by all means.
She has a severe case of not getting it. Also, notice how she blatantly contradicts her own story in one sentence. Unless this is someone more retarded than her (protip: it's not) they're not going to call her a pedo, then hit on logan, when they're older than her.>>14452>what can I say to you that I haven't already said
I'm not a big fucking romantic faggot who loves planning weddings but COME THE FUCK ON PUT SOME BASIC EFFORT AND THOUGHT INTO YOUR WEDDING VOWS HOLY SHIT.
Might as well be saying "eh, you know, love you and stuff, death do us part and shit, whatever".
>will follow you
watch him try to stand up for himself and she'll start throwing shitfits. calling it.
Haha. I agree! The vows in >>14452
are so god damn, cheesy, lame, and you can tell there's very little effort put into them. Even romantics (such as myself and others) think her vows are bloody awful. It reads like something a 14 year old on love with the idea
of love would write. So much cringe reading those vows… Plus she has such an ugly voice to boot which makes it even worse.
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This pisses me off. She's always complaining that New Zealand food is shit because we don't have the same brands of processed crap that America has. How about try some of our world renowned meat and produce and shut up about Kraft Mac and Cheese or whatever for once.
To be honest though, those ice cream sandwiches are good. We have them here in notamerica, they're pretty common.>>14460>It reads like something a 14 year old on love with the idea of love would write
Hahah, yeah, she's not a prude. She's just retarded and bad at lying. Everything she says is a reaction. Someone says she's a pedo? NO OUR LOEV IS PURE! Someone says she's fat? UR JUST JELLY!>>14487
it's funny because [spoiler]he's a baby[/spoiler]
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She's mentioned liking Corpus Delicti before (apparently why she named her creepy doll Lorelei)
Despite the fact she acts like the exact same edgy Mansonite 12-year-olds she complains about, I'm sure she's heard of Sisters of Mercy, Bauhaus, Siouxsie, etc. I've no idea if she likes them/pretends to like them, though.
Those are the worst watercolor tattoo I have ever seen.>>14555
She did list one band for where she got the dolls name from but other than that no.
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Oh yeah, she's very manipulating with her depression/suicidal/self harm behaviours. When her husband/boyfriend/childbride was first taken away from her (his parents talked some sense into him, told him this wasnt a good relationship for him to be in etc), she self harmed across her arms (PT chicken scratches probably) and then made him feel bad for it when he came back. Basically blaming his breakup with her on her self harm. The gross watercolour heart tattoos they got were to cover up that self harm, supposedly
She even wrote at length about the self harm on her wedding blog, and probably mentioned it to those poor long suffering christchurch brides she took screenshots of. She spews about her emo past at every opportunity she gets, it's hilarious. Check out the 'christchurch brides pettiness' folder on her wedding blog. It's basically filled with screenshots of women being extremely kind and patient and all her comments are attention whoring shit about her miscarriages, which she even links to.
Oh hey, yeah wedding cakes, but you know we should REALLY talk about my miscarriages, here's some pics
If someone did snap at her eventually, I'm not surprised.
No that's different.
I mean it seems like she thinks people care enough about her life to want to know every tiny detail, and actually care enough to feel sorry for her.
>>14603>literally changed her name to Raven
He'll either grow up or turn out the way he perhaps would have anyway. She doesn't need to die, though I see where you're coming from.
Yeah, your thinking when depressed is fucked. I have brought it up with someone I'm in some kind of weird online relationship with (RPing, flirting, and we're extremely close friends). I'm not saying OH BRING IT UP because even a solid relationship can be shook by it, but you should be able to rely on him for a little support at least. No need to tell him exactly why you need it. Just try to stay positive about it, if that makes any sense. Like "haha, oh wow, I am feeling so bad about myself right now, it's kinda silly isn't it boyfriend?">>14673>depression>this woman
she doesn't seem the type
she seems like she's the type to put on such behaviour for the sake of being ~so goth
I haven't studied her THAT deeply, but she doesn't seem extremely manipulative. She's bad at manipulating, and she can only manipulate young boys.>>14767
Well, she's deluded. That's about all the reason you'll get.
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Take a chill pill raven
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Btw logan kept her last name so they could 'live under my name as a family'
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Lol at the antiabortion folder.
No surprises here
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So apparently her fake baby has an aunt now.
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You forgot about her eating seven times a day.
She needs to get over the whole my babies died.
Like suck it the fuck up, if you didn't want people to comment on it then you shouldn't put it out there. And if she was posting it on the weeding fb thing then she has no right to get pissy over it.
ew ew ew
That little bleeding heart too…WTF
Miscarriage is actually a relatively common thing, especially really early on in the pregnancy. I'm sure everyone here has a sister, an aunt or a friend that had a miscarriage.
It's so crass to attention whore with it.
I know! It's not like she had one of those horrific stillbirths you sometimes hear about. Those are brutal. Also, she says she can't keep a pregnancy because her womb is too scarred (someone cleverer than I could probably make a good scared/scarred pun) to have a placenta properly attach to it.
How does that even happen? What was she doing in there!?
She's a 19 year old fat goth who had a baby at 16 to a fat, greasy metal head like 4-5 years older than her. They are no longer together. Lost her virginity than fucked another dude 30 mins later at a house party. Shit like that. I moved from Port so I don't see stuff she does any more, just online things through friends.
Now days she has nothing better to do with her life other than talk about her child and bitch over facebook.
So she's had an abortion? That's at least one of the main causes for uterus scarring. Could also be why she's so obsessed with abortions in general. Like a part of her feels guilty about it so she constantly brings pro-life bullshit up.
Of course it could just be that she's almost 40 and trying to have a child with a teenager…
That's chlamydia and gonorrhoea. Seems likely tbh.
Yeah, she's got to be banging her ex. I wonder if Logan a) is just young and naive and doesn't realise or b) knows and doesn't care.
He pays for her groceries and tattoos at least. I wonder if he bought the fake baby too.
Apparently he doesn't work and gets money from his parents who work as teachers somewhere in Asia. He lives in a house they own so doesn't pay rent either.
Logan WILL leave, the question is how long will it take and how much psychological damage she will do to him until then.
My guess, 1-2 years.
My theory over how this will happen is she'll drive him suicidal and crazy and he will either: a) try to kill himself and ends up in the hospital, his parents find out and he finds comfort and freedom in their presence (Raven seems the type to try to keep his parents away though).
b) He just up and leaves back to his parents where hopefully they'll be understanding and supportive. I hope he gets therapy because, holy shit, what he went through was not normal.
I'm in the minority here, but I don't believe Raven to be a true pedophile. From what I understand, she falls in love with anything that moves. This time, it happened to be a young and rebellious kid she just happened to meet because his son brought him to her bat cave. Was it fucked up that she fucked a sixteen year old? OMG YES. That's disgusting whether it's a man or a woman over 19.
BTW, can the anon that introduced us to this cow confirm whether she's a pedo or not? Is there something we don't know that's out there, like did she have a tendency to go after barely legal guys before?
I don't think she is a pedo (which refers to prepubescent children anyway but whatever), I think she looks for people who are easy to manipulate and kind of naive to kind of take control over.
It would be way harder for her to do that to an adult man, far easier for a teenage boy who is going to be enamored with her and ignore all her imperfections (at least for a while).
There are tons of men that seek out teenage girls for the same thing, they know they can pull all sorts of shit and the girl is too young/inexperienced to know any better.
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Those sad droopy tits
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Little tid-bit I found in the Scoptophilia blog under hashtag raven blah blah blah.
>>This New Zealand goth girl (sometimes calling herself BlOOdBathory or StarblOOd) seems to be quite obsessed by her body and by her blOOd (to write it like she does). So she took some series of pictures with her real blood (not fake) covering her body in her shower.
>I'm the biggest prude I know! I hate sex in movies, I hate nudity
I wonder how his parents feel about funding such a disgusting woman who's probably also almost the same age as them. I guess they're afraid if they cut him off that she'll drag him away permanently. At least this way they still have some hold over him.>>15486
I don't think she's a pedo, I think there's something about her behaviour that's very childlike, she still acts like a spoilt teenager going through their "rebellious" phase, so it's natural that she gravitates towards younger people. She's incapable of having an adult relationship.
I really think she could be pretty MILFy if she wasn't a mall goth. In pictures even where she's wearing slightly
less goffick makeup, she's pretty. She needs to get rid of the piercings and stop with the sharpie eyebrows.
Her body is a lost cause with the 5 million shitty tattoos, but even if she dropped 10-20lbs she'd look a hell of a lot better.
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It amuses me that Raven thinks she's a total makeup artist and that Adora is so fake and not on her level. I don't normally like stuff drawn on peoples faces but Adora makes it work most of the time.
Raven's is so messy compared to Adora's. She couldn't even keep her hand of her face long enough to let it dry.
Did a 13-year-old do her makeup?
Or c) he knows, cares, but doesn't know what to do about it because he's an emotionally immature child who thinks he's in love with this manipulative shitheel
Considering they had to "fight" his parents in order to get married, he may feel like it's not an option to leave her now even if he wanted to. He's young and may feel like he's invested too much of his life in this relationship to give up on it, not realizing that it has always been shit and will never get better.
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I wonder how many bjs these shoes cost her
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funny, the body hair skirt never caught on where I come from…
Maybe he borrowed Raven's skirt in >>16254
for that photo
That is EXACTLY what I thought lol.
What IS up with logan's hair? Maybe it's his real hair but he uses liberal amounts of hairspray?
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were these shoes?
And who is Acid King? She tagged himhttps://www.facebook.com/acid.king.758
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haha check out the godawful 'shop on her ass.
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Remember, Raven is such a prude.
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Raven's skin reminds me of the Pillsbury Dough Boy.
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I physically recoiled from my screen
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>Filename - It satisfies you
I'm more repulsed than satisfied.
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>take me to bed and rip me apart…
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Almost every single picture of her can be used in the escort section of backpage.com
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For some reason, I'm reminded of PT's upskirt pantyshots
Well, now we know her clit is pierced I guess.
At least she's not oozing shit like PT.
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There could be a chance that he could have gotten ridiculed over his mom. It would explain why Dorian had no other friends but Logan. Imagine that thing going to Parent-Teacher night with her son dressed like a porn star.
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According to Raven, this is her ex-girlfriend
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In case any of you guys wanted to see the face of Raven's ex-husband who buys her shit.
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here he is again (next to raven, in the camo pants)
more at source: http://www.leonberger.org.nz/past_events%20archives.html
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I found Ryan's house. In that birthday baaawwww video she made out that a hate blog must have been made by someone who knows her personally since they had Ryan's super secret address. Took me all of 10 seconds to find it. There's only 3 Cradocks in the Christchurch White Pages and only one of them has a bean shaped pool with those steps.
LOL, where did you get this? This bitch is a bigger lolcow than PT. There, I said it.
PT you are our Kawaii Hime and this is your new evil stepmother The Queen.
PT is the queen eternal, how dare you.
The "tributes" are a rather hilarious find though.
Wait… Does her husband even know about this?
Daaaaaamn what a lolhoe lol.
HPV can also cause cervical cancer.
What makes you think raven agreed to it though or asked the guy to do it?
I wouldn't be surprised if her childbride knows about her nekkid pics, but someone fapping on her nekkid pics is beyond her control. Anyone can fap onto your pics, even decent ones, and then upload it.
Q: Did you always wanted to be an model, or did you stumble upon it, get discovered etc.? Who or what inspired you to become a model?
A: Defiantly stumbled into it. I answered an ad from some lady, working for a Fetish magazine from California. I started working with her, and then as a Domme for a bit…then the next thing I knew people were taking pictures of me everywhere I went! Then I started getting a huge following online, and the rest is history!
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Damn she's gonna have to suck Ryan's dick many times to pay for those flights.
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>Also when I’m pissed I quite easily think of murder, and in fact I have to stop myself and make a conscious effort to not do the things I want to do. I always think of death, and blood…killing or dying.
Interview With German Thai Alternative Fashion Model Raven Sparks
Q: What is your favorite or most exciting aspect about being a model?
A: My favorite thing about modeling is playing the part, becoming someone else. I mean- I don’t dress in costume or any differently than I always look when I get dressed up (except for the blood of course!)
but I’m a very depressed person nowadays.
My Dad passed away not long ago, I had a miscarriage and found out I was diabetic…I moved to a strange country where in almost three years I have not one friend… so for me to get all dressed up, as if I had a purpose in life again…that makes me happy.
alternative pierced model in sparkling make-up
Q: Quick intro please, where were you born, ethnic background and what types of modeling are your favorites?
A: I was born in Wiesbaden, Germany. I am German and Thai. I love fetish and unprofessional modeling.
Q: How would you describe yourself as model in three words?
A: Unique. Misunderstood. Real.
Q: How would you describe yourself as human being in three words?
A: Troubled. Unique. Kind.
Q: What’s controversial or unique about you?
A: The way I think about things is very different. Sometimes I get these odd thoughts in my head that I know “normal” people don’t think- such as when I’m a passenger in a car I always get the urge to stick my arm out and hit poles, even though I know that would break my arm.
Also when I’m pissed I quite easily think of murder, and in fact I have to stop myself and make a conscious effort to not do the things I want to do. I always think of death, and blood…killing or dying.
Q: Which ONE superpower would you choose to have?
A: Does the ability to make wishes come true count? J/k I think I’d choose the power to make anyone do whatever I wanted, no matter what.
Q: What are your turn ons and turn offs?
A: I absolutely hate shit talkers and troublemakers. I hate people who always try to bring you down, even if they don’t know you- especially if they don’t know you! I hate people who think women with any sort of meat on their bones is fat-it’s people like that who cause so many girls to have so many disorders!
I love people who are open minded, accepting, intelligent, and honest.
Q: What is your favorite part about your body?
A: It was my hair…but two days ago it was all cut off accidentally and I’m a it depressed. I guess then my lips?
Q: Do you have any beauty / skin care tips or tricks to look fresh and rested for early morning photoshoots?
A: Haha, I never have early morning shoots unless I had been awake all night! I’m very lucky though- I never wash my makeup off but my skin is very smooth.
Q: Did you always wanted to be an model, or did you stumble upon it, get discovered etc.? Who or what inspired you to become a model?
A: Defiantly stumbled into it. I answered an ad from some lady, working for a Fetish magazine from California. I started working with her, and then as a Domme for a bit…then the next thing I knew people were taking pictures of me everywhere I went! Then I started getting a huge following online, and the rest is history!
Q: Who is your favorite photographer, designer, high-fashion model and celebrity? Why?
A: Out of all those, I have just one favorite model- Masuimi Max! I think she is the most beautiful woman in the world!
I wish I looked like her. We have just about the same mix too, except I think she’s Japanese instead of Thai.
Q: Which is your single most favorite (must have on a deserted island) magazine? Why?
A: Possibly Reader’s Digest, because there’s just so much cool stuff to read about.
Q: How do you feel about models who refuse to do topless or nude photography? Do you?
A: I fully respect them! I used to refuse as well, but after being asked to take part in a movie that required me to be topless, I just got the feel for it.
To tell you the truth, after doing all my bloody pictures I feel much better without having to worry about wearing clothes. Funny though-when I see girls I know posing nude or topless, I don’t like it.
Q: What would you like to change about yourself if you can choose only one thing?
A: My weight for sure! I’m big boned, and I will never, ever be very skinny. I see ugly girls being chased after just because they’re thin. They have no hips, no asses, no breasts…nothing that makes them a woman and yet guys love it.
I get hassled all the time for being fat, even though there are much larger girls out there. I’m in the middle … but pressure has me wishing I were a twig as well.
Q: Have you had any negative experiences with model agencies, talent scouts? What are top 3 warning signs to look out for?
A: Once, yes. This guy wanted to do a set with me when I first got started. My tip off was (or should have been) that he had p0rn all over his house.
Second- we went to his house and not a set or location.
Third- he didn’t want anyone else coming. He tried to get me to pose nude, and ended up telling me he had to change, which he proceeded to do right in front of me! Pervert.
alternative gothic fashion model
Q: What are your thoughts on beauty pageants, contestants and pageant moms?
A: I hate them because everyone’s idea of “beauty” seems ot be the same: skinny. What about true beauty? Looking like a real woman? These girls are all plastic clones of each other, and the moms?
Dressing up any child in those outfits and wearing makeup is just asking for your kid to grow up to be a tramp. No little girl should be wearing more than lipgloss.
Q: Would you work for a client that uses fur? What is the best way to balance personal beliefs and client needs?
A: I personally wouldn’t. I think the best thing is for both sides to have their absolutes laid out before a contract is made. This way both sides know what the other will and won’t do.
Q: What tips and advice do you have for aspiring models just starting out, something you wish someone would’ve told you ?
A: Just watch out for people who try to take advantage of you. Do your own thing and be sure to stand out from the rest, but this means you’ll most likely get hassled and people just won’t understand. But stick with it, and someone will see your talent for what it is.
Q: Would you share some of your future goals, your life motto, any words of wisdom that get you by in life and professional career?
A: I live my life by the rule: Do whatever it takes to make yourself happy! You’ll never in your life please all of the people all of the time, or even some people sometimes… no matter what you do there will always be someone trying to bring you down.
All you can do is to do whatever it takes to make sure you are happy within yourself, and never give up!
Visit Raven’s MySpace, Facebook, Facebook 2, Twitter and official modeling website.
Raven alternative model photography red lingerie
>Q: Which ONE superpower would you choose to have?>A: I think I’d choose the power to make anyone do whatever I wanted, no matter what.
spoken like a true spoiled brat
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damn those sluts asking for stupid slutty shit
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Quoth the raven; "I'm not a whore!"
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Raven whining about New Zealand.
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Well I would stare because who puts a few month old in a pram like this? This is a pram for a much older baby, her child would fall out and die if it was real.
Thank god she's not a real mother.
Let me get this straight… she's bitching
about having delicious, healthy, good for you non-processed food in New Zealand? Shit, I live in the processed food capitol of the world (aka 'Murrica) and would kill for that. If I never had to eat another processed food in my life, I could die a happy woman. She's freaking stupid. It's no surprise she's so damn fat.
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So I was looking through Logan's timeline, like the cockhungry slut I am, and came across this photo…It's very obviously shooped, look at the hair…
Who do you think shoops these? I think it's raven and I think his whole account is controlled by raven. All he posts is raven. Does he not have friends, does he never go out, doesn't he take pictures of anything other than his old fat wife?
0:43 I seriously fucking lost it
Raven's childbride just has to do whatever she says jfc
Year-old FAQ on her Facebook:
Explain why Logan doesn't add girls. You make him say that, don't you?
Logan doesn't add girls because he doesn't want to. It's really as simple as that. Logan is quite a different sort of person- to me this makes him amazing and ideal. He hates girls, he hates kids his own age…he hates most people in general. Maybe not "hates", but doesn't like and has no desire to talk to/meet/hang out with.
In the beginning of our relationship there was a lot he didn't know. He had only been with one girl for a significant amount of time, and he told me he thought she was really ugly and was only with her because at the time he was dirty and gross and no one else would have him. Every other relationship, he's gotten bored of after about a week. One other girl lasted about three months, but he also didn't like her. He said she was crazy about him and always wanted to spend time with him, but he didn't care if they went weeks without contact. He's never felt a bond with anyone before me, never put a girlfriend above himself, never wanted to settle down at all…so he made some mistakes early on, like wanting to go to Armageddon with his friends without inviting me, and trying to give up his birthday with me yet asking me for money so he could go with them- inconsiderate stuff. I noticed a lot of his female friends were hot for him- something he didn't see. In many ways he was quite innocent. He wasn't all "sexed out" like most of the kids here. He had only had sex with three people- one was his longtime girlfriend, one was a girl he stayed with for a week and said since she was so hot for him, he felt obligated to have sex with her, and one was a one night stand with a dirty skank.
Anyway, when I saw the comments and texts and messages these girls were sending him (he showed me everything), yes, I put my foot down. When his ex friend messaged him drunk and asked him to go to her house and fuck her, and she wouldn't tell anyone (ignoring the fact that she has a boyfriend and that she then moved on to seducing my son when she couldn't get Logan), I told him he was never to talk to her again. When his other friend texted him and told him I was a dirty, disgusting pedophile and that she had added me to spy on me, and that she was sooooo jealous he was with me (also ignoring the fact that she has a boyfriend AND had been messaging me, showing me support for our relationship and acting as if she was my friend), I told him to cut her off. When one of his exes wrote him saying she wanted to see him, but no, she didn't want to meet me because she was a homewrecker, I told him I didn't want him talking to her. When his other female friend became so obsessed with him she'd cut herself and then blame him, writing him to come meet her and then attacking him, stripping off his chokers and bracelets etc whenever he saw her, and then telling him she wanted him to hug her because she wanted to hold onto him and never let him go, then telling him "do you know how hard it is to sit next to someone you love and have to listen to them talking about their new girlfriend?"- yeah, I said I didn't want her around either.
The thing is, I also gave him the choice to keep all of them as friends, but leave me. I said if they mean enough to him, feel free to go, but after all I've been through, I won't tolerate a bunch of sluts hanging all over MY boyfriend. I'm sure any girl can agree. He cut them all off without a second thought. He didn't care whatsoever, and told me they all annoyed him anyway, he just had nothing better to do. Over the next few months as I calmed down and once my trust in him grew, I backed off. I told him he is free to make friends or add whatever girls he wants, it's fine, because I trust him, but after those girls have shown their true colors (and many more afterward have popped up to betray him through me or my son), he's done. He has no need nor want to befriend any female unless it's one of my online friends and supporters, and even then I have to tell him to add them. He also rarely goes online, so having online friends is useless to him
Don't you think Logan is a little too young and immature to get married and live with you the way he does? What about having friends and being a kid?
No, I don't think he's too young or immature at all. He's 18, for one. When I was 18, I was a mother. By 19 I was a wife. He is extremely mature for his age. He gets up at 6am, goes to work, works hard all day and sees none of his tiny paycheck. He deals with everyday adult stresses and is smart enough to realize that even if he were to leave me, he'd still have to go to work and pay bills and struggle to live. In the end he'd be looking for someone to marry and settle down with- but he already has that so why leave? We just had this conversation about four days ago, when I again offered him the chance to leave me by telling him I wanted to break up. HE is the one who made all of the previous points.
As for friends- his male friends, all except for one, have abandoned him. We have invited them over for parties- including Logan's birthday, to the wedding, or just to hang out. Since Logan doesn't drink or do drugs and actually has a family and responsibilities, they basically want nothing to do with him. He says he sometimes misses the act of "having" friends, but it fades more and more as time passes and he's so busy with work
So he hates everyone except fat middle aged women, ESPECIALLY hot girls his own age. How very convenient.
>he told me he thought she was really ugly and was only with her because at the time he was dirty and gross and no one else would have him. Every other relationship, he's gotten bored of after about a week. One other girl lasted about three months, but he also didn't like her.
I'd put money on him only telling her this to get her to shut the fuck up. God, she sounds like the female equivalent of those guys in their 30's that date teenage girls and then cry and throw tantrums because they're not the girls "first" or whatever.
>He deals with everyday adult stresses and is smart enough to realize that even if he were to leave me, he'd still have to go to work and pay bills and struggle to live. In the end he'd be looking for someone to marry and settle down with- but he already has that so why leave?
Um, no he wouldn't, he could go to college, hang out with his friends or just sit around playing video games, basically whatever he wants because he wouldn't have a disgusting old dependapotamus bleeding him dry.
It's pretty spooky when she just chimes in in the middle of the video out of nowhere and you realize she's behind the camera. It just makes it that much more obvious that she convinced him to make the video and say all those things.
Also, am I the only one who cringed whenever her hand just entered the frame to touch him and interact with him? She's such a fucking creep.>"My guy friends kinda deserted me because I can't get drunk or stoned with my friends now that I'm in a relationship..">"Can't or don't want to?">"D-Don't want to."
>>18270>he made some mistakes early on, like wanting to go to Armageddon with his friends without inviting me
He wanted to chill and hang out with his friends without bringing his girlfriend? Someone call the fucking cops.
Wouldn't it be kinda awkward to bring whoever you're dating when you're just hanging out with your friends? Unless maybe they were mutual friends or it was a long-term thing? "early on" kinda implies it was a new thing.
Seriously, she practically has her hand up his ass like a glove puppet.
The way she's so domineering with what he says/thinks and the way she touches him reminds me of a pervy uncle molesting his niece or something.
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lost it on this part
I bet shes talking about cheese product that you can get cheap here in the states and taste like shit.
i dont get how people can it that and not really cheese.
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I remember they used to serve this shit at school. The other kids would always chose the other food option instead of the grilled cheese, but one day they were out of the other option and I got stuck with a grilled cheese. I put it in my jacket and brought it home to give to my mom. When my mom saw it, she wouldn't let me buy food there anymore and packed my lunch from then on lol. Raven is seriously some gross white trash.
I know a girl that does something similar, she will 'break up' just for drama and just so he will beg her to stay etc. now that she's having his baby he's even more stuck in the relationship.
At least Logan doesn't have a baby with her, so he could still leave her. It's more difficult to leave when there's a babby involved.
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Classic Raven! Asking an open ended question and then attacking people for answering it.
And the commenters are right, Raven DID imply that 5 year olds are experimenting sexual. (way to sound like a pedo again!)
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She made a fucking facebook album called "Pedophilia"
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She reminds me of Elliot Rodger somehow. Must be the blatant narcissism, victim complex and self-righteous delusion.>"I am just a fucking girl" but is actually 38 years old>goes on about how she cares so much for her son and loves him, then proceeds to relentlessly insult and degrade him half the fucking video>"I have nothing in my life to be ashamed of, I have done absolutely nothing wrong">"Yes, I am fat. Muh thyroid, muh depression"
If I didn't know better, I'd think this was all elaborate bait.
lol, the banner ad I got for this was "10 ugly mistakes women make".
I only watched about a minute in, I imagine it's just 8 minutes of typical internet narcissist blabbering on about how they can say and do what they want because "their entitled to their opinion" but then start crying about bullies and haters when others do the same thing.
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What young guy looks at, much less posts these pink softlogic shit memes? Aren't they reserved for middle aged women who post on pinterest?
A young guy that has his social media accounts controlled by a middle aged woman?
But yes, she does a terrible job at pretending an 18 year old male.
u wot m8
links or it didn't happen
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Someone get the popcorn!
Oh my god, I need to get some popcorn.
>trying to get her thread removed
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I'm sorry but that sounds really unhealthy for a relationship, you should trust your significant other enough to allow them a semblance of privacy.
It's like she expects him to cheat from the get go, which isn't surprising considering she's a fat mallgoth, so cheating on her is a sane possibility.
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>>18718>He's white and I'm asian- I'll age a lot better than he will
It's too late hun.
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how images work?
Yeah, being paranoid enough to warrant a password exchange is pretty much the opposite of 'trust'.
She's only doing this to soothe her rightful paranoia.
"ITS ALL YOUR FAULT I'M GOING TO KILL MYSELF"
No. Does this woman have any idea of personal responsibility. It's always someone else or some dramatic excuse as to why she does shitty things.
Really? Which one was it?
Does she know of this place yet? Given the cwcki forums shitstorm I would've thought she'd white knight herself here if she knew.
She doesn't know yet, and let's keep it that way.
We all remember the saxy habbening.
Of course, I just thought >>18735
seemed to kinda imply she was blaming lolcow for all this.
You mean on staminarose? I can't remember much about the saxy drama
Linking her here would cause her to dry out prematurely from overmilking.
We need to milk gently, to keep a steady flow of lulz. We milked saxy too fast, so she freaked out and baleeted everything. Same would happen to raven if she were to be linked here.
Ah, I thought they were on about someone wishing death on saxy for a sec. Never mind.
But calm down, I wasn't planning on linking her to lolcow. I'm not quite that big a faggot.
Those were the days. I have her new fb but not twitter, I miss her twitter, it was hilarious.
Not as good as pt but still.
That makes sense
I can get that
This makes me feel more comfortable about vacationing in New Zealand then. Good to know.
I'm not surprised that Raven is getting treated like shit over there. She was complaining about how it's such an oh so bad place for women but when she conducts herself the way she does? Dressing like an edgy 16 year old when she's nearly 40? Fat and lazy? Yeah… It's no wonder she's never encountered someone other than Logan that'd put up with her bullshit in that county.
Guys she deleted it.
Do you think she's onto us?
I love how she keeps repeating on the cwcki forums how she hasn't done anything illegal with Logan, as though that somehow makes it completely ok. Just because it's not illegal, doesn't mean it's not completely inappropriate. It's not illegal to eat your own shit, either. >>18751
I'm surprised she's bothered by a lack of nightlife considering how much she goes out of her way to keep Logan as far away from other women as possible. Surely him being around a load of skimpily dressed girls who are 100% guaranteed to all be hotter and younger than her would make her explode in a fiery ball of jealous rage.
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She baleeted her FB by the way. Inderdasting.
She says she's terrified of leaving her house and a shut in, but is angry about the lack of a night life?
Dumb as shit.
And…America is pretty boring too depending on where you live. What part of America does she want to live in? You don't just say you want to live in America, you say what state you want to live in and/or city.
My friend, they were gently milking the lolcow. If you milk it too roughly it might get spooked and run away, or even stop making milk alltogether.
They are seasoned farmers, they know what they're doing.
Okay, who else thinks he's reading off of a script? I swear I hear crinkling paper, his eyes are shifting like he's reading lines, and he keeps looking down.
Also, is he wearing a wig?
tbh, i think he's lying. if you're right handed, which i'm going to assume he is, you look to your right, or dominant, side when you're lying, because it is the creativity side f the brain or something along those lines. i've noticed him quickly shifting his eyes to his right, our left, a lot as he was talking. i can understand him looking down when he was reading "his" list of points, but he would be staring directly into the camera, or at least looking to his left to recall memories, if he was being honest.
His hair does look pretty damn awful… I'm not sure if it's a wig either it looks so weird.
His dialogue seems very off. This doesn't come off as genuine and natural at all.
if she really wants to see her mother, she should just go on maury, dr. phil, or something like that. it's a win situation for everyone, she'll definitely get people to pity her, dr phil/maury would definitely get her the help she needs/a flight to see her mother in return for being a guest, because she gets a free flight to america anyway she can eat all the gross processed junk she wants, the show of her choice gets higher ratings, and we get to hear the lie detector results from her, her childbride, and maybe Dorian.
She definitely knows about this thread because I got a DMCA takedown alert from Mega for this file. I only posted it here.
It didn't get any attention but since she doesn't want it out there I should probably reupload it somewhere. Anyone know of a free host that doesn't give a shit about DMCAs?
Yeah, that's what I was thinking, but as >>18968
said, if they got a DMCA takedown she probably does know.
I haven't heard that before, do you have any links? I'd like to read it.
I've always wondered how true that was because if someone knows the tell they can work on not expressing it and manipulate it to their advantage.
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Hope I didn't come off as aggressive btw, it's just something that I used to believe too, but then I found out it was overhyped pseudoscience, it really bummed me out. I felt lied to by my high school teacher.
What you CAN look at is body language, but even that can vary across cultures etc. so I strongly suggest getting the book on it I linked to, it's v interestinghttp://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/law-enforcement-bulletin/june_2011/school_violence
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eh she'll be back. Just look at kittyphina or babycakes. These girls can't stay away from the attention.
That being said, everyone DID tell her to stop posting every bit of her life on the internet. I, for one, am glad she actually listened.
Were they actually having twins? Or was it just her "intuition"?
Also, I really hate that she claims Dorian killed her babies when it more than likely has something to do with her age. The older a woman is, the harder it is for them to carry a child full term. And sometimes, even if they do, that child could end up with mental or physical issues.
And am I the only one who thinks logan is wearing a wig?
Her ovaries and uterus were fucked when those fetuses were conceived. They were so scarred they couldn't hold on to dear life. I'm no medical professional (Where my nurses at?), but this woman probably had an STD that went untreated for a while and it caused her womb to become toxic to life.
Look at how many men that were practically strangers she's had unprotected sex with, that we
I doubt it was a previous botched abortion that caused the scarring, maybe in the 50's or 60's this would be very plausible since there were so many butcher doctors out there preforming these procedures, but now? Modern gyno practice? We are doing sooo much better.
Sorry Raven, you made your bed, now you fucking sleep in it.
And Dorian, if you ever see this, I'm sorry. You got shit cards and a shit mother, it's totally not your fault.
Ugh, did anyone mirror these videos? They've been deleted and I really wanted to watch the Logan one.
I saw a little screencap of his face, and man does he look fucking haggard. He's too young to look like this, he's too young to be working this hard, he's too young PERIOD.
She's devouring his youth, living and projecting through him. This is so sad.
He'll leave her, and I'm not saying this to be mean or catty, it's just the truth. I'm willing to bet he actually looks forward to those long hours at work interacting with other human beings. He stopped dressing goff. He's growing up, something Raven can't do.
this is the anon who suggested logan was lying. you didn't come off as aggressive at all, this is actually really interesting, so thanks!
staying on topic, is it just me who's getting the feeling that raven is using logan as a dorian replacement? idk a few of her mannerisms towards him sometimes make me think of a mother and child, but it may just be the creepy age difference.
That's one of the things that bugs me. He's too young to be supporting a grown-ass woman. (Her son is too.) Both of those boys should be going to school or at least figuring out what to do with their lives. Not tending to a fat, middle-aged mall goth.
I bet she kicked her son out because her kid son and her kid husband weren't getting along. That's what happens when you surround yourself with children, they fight. The sad part is she picked Logan over her own child. What a piece of trash.
Raven needs to get out and get a job and stop blaming her son for all of her problems.
Not sure this works but:http://videobam.com/rznwk
Be prepared for more "Woe IS MEE, NOTHING S MY FAAAULT!"
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Thanks anon! It worked for me ♥
Have a cute tiny frog trying to eat a bulb.
Been removed m8.
Raven stop being a cunt and deleting the thruth about your sour ass.
This just in. Raven is attempting to take down cwcki forums. It isn't working.
You don't need an account to read the thread. Lulz for everyone!
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Preach it, Logan! You took home the old cow when you wanted a little milk.
Raven does have a job actually, she's still a prostitute, but she only services one man outside of her boygroom.
She acts like she can afforded a lawyer to get this shit taken down.
Raven I thought you were dirt poor.
Yeah, it's the same in his hostage videos as well, you can't see his scalp at all, and the way it's parted is a give away as well. It really does look like a wig.
And in this >>19023
photo it's most definitely a wig.
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So, anything new on the raven front?
Is everything still down?
I say, give her a month max and she'll be back to her old shenanigans.
I would be frustrated as fuck to ruin a pair of tights in this way.
Although I wouldn't be stupid enough to wear cute tights after extensive hospital procedures being done to my lady nethers.
She was actively trying for kids since her 2nd husband I believe, and so she has had a shit load of miscarriages. I dont think she would have needed a std to fuck up her life, she was doing a lot of drugs until she moved to New Zealand which only makes miscarriage more likely, and scarring can be just from the sheer amounts. She was foolish to think that the twins would survive when she had not been able to keep a fetus for a good decade. >>19087
Its a shame but what really makes Logan's situation at work shit is that he willingly dropped out of school. He doesnt even have a diploma, so he can only get the shitty jobs that higher anyone.
Honestly I dont think Logan is lying or will leave. The way their relationship is built up from the way that she builds up this us vs them situation with everybody to how isolated he is from his peers, means that he will not be able to just leave. He has no friends, he is responsible for supporting the two of them, he married her knowing that his parents disagreed (they did not support the commitment one when he was 17), and he has no time to live. He literally spends all his day either at work or with her. She sets traps for him all the time with saying that he should leave her, that she will kill herself if he does, etc so that he feels that he has to stay. He feels responsible for her life. There is no way that a guy this young will be able to leave this shit, and he likely honestly believes her and the story she tells.
This is definitely true. Especially with the creepy hostage videos, and especially if it was the teenager having all the miscarriages.>>19850
It's not just a 'feminist' thing, though. There's this universal idea that men love (heterosexual) sex no matter where it comes from and therefore cannot be raped by a woman. There was a scandal in my country a few years ago where a 30-year-old teacher was having sex with her 14-year-old student and while every woman I know was horrified, a bunch of men where calling him lucky for getting to have sex with a "MILF" at such a young age. The kid was obviously fucking traumatized but nope, he totally got lucky and any dude saying otherwise is just jealous that the kid "got some" while they were still a virgin at that age. This is actually a thing feminism is fighting against but of course the tumblr misandry-disguised-as-feminism crazies completely missed the point and just hate everything with a penis.
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Thanks anon! Didn't even take me that long to find them.
Oh Logan, you foolish boy.
Hey guys I found a picture of Raven on my computer from before she deleted her FB.
Nah, she's in the hospital I think, they covered up her piercings for some reason, I don't know why they didn't just make her take them off.
I think this was during one of her miscarriages, I forget which one, number 143?
This preg was the one where she had it in her tubes, so her last because she finally went to a doctor who told her that her womb was too scarred up. Would be the same time as >>19482
, and >>14837
. I think it was the twins she was all about too.
She was part of a group for women who had miscarriages/wanting surrogates for a bit but was kicked out because she was saying very disturbing things. Obviously she was depressed over loosing another fetus, but she was posting about how she wanted to kill people who were pregnant because she was not, and they booted her out for that negative shit. She ended up posting a video about how mean they were to her, saying that she was just posting what others were thinking, and they were all fake.
Pic is what Logan wore to the wedding, you may not have noticed it when he actually wore the thing, but that is a Sebastian cosplay.
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I dont think they knew, because of how they styled it, but the a bit shorter black jacket with the grey shirt is a typical costume to get online for Sebastian. Its a shitty costume but he made it even uglier with how he wore it.
I can see if I can find anything, since like everything she does, she made an album on fb about the issues, then made a video showing the caps. But sadly since she deleted most of her stuff already it is hard to find things from it.
I did find a post that looks like she did make about the situation. Note that she talks about drinking and smoking here. http://www.mothering.com/forum/19-i-m-pregnant/1365746-constant-worries-nothing-adds-up.html
She also has told people she didnt like that she wished that their pregnancy would end in miscarriage too, in another lashing out episode. Then made a video defending her actions.
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Logan's parents must of had him at a young age, because they are younger than Raven. She had Dorian at a pretty young age too, like 18/19, so they are likely teen parents. Dorian is half mexican, something that Raven mocks him for, stuff like calling him a dirty Mexican. Not sure how much of it is only joking because even if he laughs it off having your mother say these things hurts.
She actually did have legit modeling things, but they were never really stuff that was clearly her. Her most used one is just of her mouth, and she has edited it a few times for different colors and fixing her piercing but people use it all the time without credit, some even for profit. There is a book out there with this a part of the cover. The other few times were for bands, nothing big.
She also only changed her name legally around the time she got married, so before she had to photoshop her 'proof' pictures of her drivers license to show people her name was Raven.
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I can't believe she really tattooed her face. The other picture is such potato quality that I thought they were moles.
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Like Ryan is such an asshole, and he hit me and he like raped me, why does he keep buying me all these presents. Ugh. I'm so glad I only have to suck his dick and not talk to him.
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Logan is a fucking weeb.
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Logans knows Japanese!?
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Haha, oh wow, this is too accurate.
This is really late but I was scrolling through and this photo really disturbs me. Pokemon was airing when Dorian and Logan were kids and I was about to ask, what do her and Logan even talk about together? With my boyfriend, and all the couples I know, old and young, they reference stuff and discuss stuff they grew up with. When Logan talks about Pokemon to her does Raven just go, "Ugh, I remember Dorian being obsessed with that show and those stupid cards." Or did Raven love and watch children's shows with Dorian? I'm not saying stuff like this is what relationships rely on but seriously, but being ~g0ffik~ and immature seems like their only common interests tbh.>>20250
I'm really not surprised he's a weeb, with both his and her immaturity level it's not surprising. I went through the same phase he's going through, except I was in middle school and it was 2006. Plus, I've noticed many emo/scene/goff kids tend to go through a weeb phase at some point. I've also noticed a lot of those people also become hipsters/jump onto the next other trendy alternative fashion.
Oh, this reminds me of the videos she put up over contacts. She got into this crazy ass battle over some korean company because she paid like 800$ (maybe more?) for contacts and they didnt turn out right. While I think she was right over the fact that she didnt get what she wanted, I dont think you should ever be paying that much for contacts.>>20224
She had them redone a few times, face tattoos fade really fast so she they were red at one point, black now. >>20252
She used to do makeup tuts, this was like back when she was with Ryan so, years ago. I remember there was one that was very Marilyn Manson like with a big rectangle of red eyeshadow over her eyes.>>20255
Hottopic in that sense are smart to go to more weeby things since they keep their old demographic and add some regular weebs too.
I figured that. She seems like she just likes to listen to herself speak and I've never really heard about her talk about anything other than sluts and h8erz, just imagine coming home from working all day just to listen to that. I'm sure she doesn't even care to listen to how his day is or anything. With her being off the internet, she's probably talking more about this stuff bc she can't complain online about it anymore. I feel like he's staying in the relationship just because he feels pity for her tbh.
She's trying so hard to hold on to Logan, by isolating him, and it's going to bite her in the ass. I can definitely see him getting tired of her shit and realizing that she's wasting his time/youth, and leaving her maybe next year or so.
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Dorian has implied that she offed herself on Facebook.
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This is one fucked up prank. Wonder if that guy knows anything more…
We are getting the blame of bullying her into dead. Cant screencap right now, but a girl said "Natasha Houston That brides page started the bulling fuk them all i hope this is bullshit!" And response
Womenof IndustrialMusic google lolcow, shes on that page and thats where they really became brutal
I think we are rather tame about her. Just discussing her life, but lolkay we so brutal.
Actually, what's brutal is her playing pretend suicide for sympathy.
Are we still trying to claim that she isn't a narcissist if this does turn out to be false? Because my mother use to do this same shit. i.e. threaten to kill herself if we didn't listen.
I actually had someone go through the trouble of faking a suicide when we got into an argument on tumblr. She even had her "friend's tumblr" say something. We found her instagram where she had posted a day later.
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Who linked her back here?
A random retard? Someone with a butthurt agenda, like edji? A PULL member?
nah man, miscarriages are actually pretty common. I know so many women that are my friends and family that had miscarriages, sometimes multiple ones.
In fact, a lot of people miscarry in the extr. early stages of pregnancy (first day after implantation) but don't even notice. It's the body's way of saying "there's something wrong, let's not take any chances, delete it".
Because of the prolife movement though, women now view fetuses as babies, so this sort of natural and common thing has been made doubly traumatic. I think it's unhealthy for your mental health to get so worked up over something that's smaller than a bean.
"retarded people's bullshit"
So, is the down's syndrome society picking on her again, or is she just being an ableist cunt?
OMG this is just too much
I'm getting the jumbo tub of popcorn for this thread.
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Doesn't she own this? https://www.facebook.com/Goth.Boys
If so, the most recent post was yesterday.
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I don't like to leave loose ends, here's proof linking Raven to the Goth Boys Facebook Page.
Wow, they call this brutal? We're freaking tame. Do they think we're as bad as those types of people who dox's someone and sends the swat on them?
gb2 PULL, please
She's a shitty person, sure, but don't try and act like anyone on this site is above using the word 'retard'
Screencap of message?
I would figure Dorian and Logan would be more upset about it and post more on FB about it. If it did happen, where is Logan living now?
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yeah they still haven't posted any proof though.
Even if it was true, I find it sad that she once again is putting herself and her reputation as a goff queen over her family. She killed herself instead of repairing the damage between her son because Raven doesn't care about anyone but herself. Her duramu comes first. Not Dorian. Not Logan. How pathetic.
I know she's fuckig alive.
5 gold bars says she will come back in a few weeks saying she tried to kill herself, Logan found her and took her to the hospital, she was in a coma, Dorian was devastated because they think she wont wake up (hence the status), and then she magically wakes up.
H8ers can't bring her down.
Logan how do you put up with this foolishness? You're more mature than this.
Sorry anon, I didn't mean to quote you, this was supposed to be a general post.
Raven aside, I'm sorry about your community's loss. They shouldn't have to with someone faking a suicide for internet points.
Back to Raven, is your community tight and do they know of Raven and her antics?
Anyone that actually believes her is retarded.
How long until she 'comes back from the dead'? Preferrably as a 'friend who wants to get revenge, from the trolls that made her kill herself sob sob
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Oh ya, I saw tonnes of gothtards grieving about her, too bad raven doesn't give a shit about their feelings.
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Are we really supposed to believe that Dorian paid to promote that post?
Not to mention that Dorian would take the time to defend the exact allegations Raven has been defensive about and talk about websites when his mom just died?
The commenters are weird too - why would that girl list all the ways she couldn't get hold of Raven if she believes Dorian that she is dead? If they weren't lying, they'd be the dumbest people in the world. May still be.
Agreed, it's all so contrived. I bet she thinks she's a mastermind and everyone believes her nonsense though lol>>20709
Oh absolutely, I mean what's the likelihood that
1-someone would make such an account and COINCIDENTALLY she really died
2-this account was COINCIDENTALLY made by some random schmuck soon after the lolcow and cwckipedia events
3- The death page, which is supposedly a troll page, says nothing mean about her. If you truly wanted to troll, wouldn't you write something other than what sounds like raven ranting about da haterz?
This doesnt read like a kid who just lost his mother. It also is a bit weird that Dorian would be spreading it because he is less in the middle of it since he moved out, and you would think he would not have many people that know her personally on his fb. Logan speaking up on his fb (or their shared ones..), making a real memorial page (if you are going to call that one troll why not have on yourself?), etc would be more practical in showing that someone is dead.
Also why is this taking so long for anything to happen about her death? When people die, you dont really wait a while to have 'proof'. Death certificates can take a bit to get but that is more for the later stuff like closing accounts. But initially what you do is you get it in the paper so people know, plan a funeral or some sort of viewing day and have the big stuff done in a week tops. Yet it has been a week since she 'died' and the most we got is a maybe confirm from her son.
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Dropped muh pic
Logan, this is beyond embarrassing.
Now Dorian is posting all over that post saying it's a troll, which I assume is true.
Regardless, she is obviously not dead (since he won't even say that), and she is obviously using his profile. How long is she going to drag this out and with what end game?
Boooo! I thought Diana finally paid us a visit, I was so excited anon.
IMO, I don't think Logan was in on this. I think he knows what she's doing, but I think he doesn't participate. Which says a lot I think. Even when he's forced to do videos, he looks like he's in a bad mood.
Plus, he's always working. Imagine coming home to this bullshit almost every night? Ugh. It also sounds like she's threatening him as well ("I might be single").
Hi anon, sorry for the late reply. The NZ goth community in NZ is made up of groups from the different cities. We all have friends who are from the other cities so tend to have a pretty damn good idea of what is going on in the community at any time. I am not from the same city as Raven but I do have friends who are and they have nothing nice to say about her.
This morning I discovered that she was indeed faking her death which has made me more angry that I can put into words. The fact that she makes light of something as big as suicide, right after we lost our friend to it, has definitely pushed her even further away from the community here (not that she was ever really welcomed as far as I know, purely because of this sort of drama and bullshit)
I know it's hard to believe, but she actually is Asian. She's half German and half Thai. This was her when she was younger: >>12556
I think it's just the combination of shoop, makeup and colour contacts that make her look like regular white trash.
Although, in fairness, she is kinda a weeb seeing as she wanted to call her kids Ciel and Sebastian (>>18664) and Logan wore Sebastian cosplay at their wedding (>>20141, >>12962
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Has this been posted before?
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Sorry, anon, I think the original was on her deviantArt which I think she may have deleted so all I could find was a piss poor thumbnail
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I have a picture from that set
Obvious bait, but thanks, anon
i think anon means that this is some white trash cheese
that neon orange fake cheese is terrible and cheap