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Truly the most tolerant religion
I hate Islam more then you can imagine, I want nothing more then its destruction and as stated I despite It with every fiber of my being but I will not reduce it into bland stereotypes, I woke up to how horrible the religion of the arab pedophile is by first understanding It
my journey to leave Islam came from the simple question of why I wasn't allowed to pray in any other language other then Arabic, what made Arabic so goddamn special that God almighty preferred it over all the other languages and that gave me the motivation to study religion but critically and through the research I became a pure atheist
What makes Islam always so uniquely awful is that unlike Jesus and Buddha, Muhammad ruled a state with completely authority for over 10 years, In this period Muhammad was a priest king with absolute authority, for Muslims this was the perfect society, all other societies would never come to close to the one governed by Muhammad and his followers so unlike other Abrahamic religions is not just a religion but also a political and social ideology; from banking, trials to literally how you should pee and treat other non believers, you'll find an answer for it in the record books about either Muhammad and his companions
Its beyond most cults though, there are Libraries worth of books based on Islamic law based on the Hadiths(sayings and doings of Muhammad) as well extended Islamic law based on his companions
for Muslims these laws are well the perfect laws from God himself, any sort of system will always inferior for actual Muslims
The Quran its self is shit though, unless you've actually read it critically its really hard to describe just how awful it is to read
see the Quran is the super summarized story of the Jews, the true story of Jesus, 3 random Arab prophets that appeared before Muhammad and of course the story of Muhammad and his followers and his tribe's battle with the Quraish tribe but none of this is in chronological order btw, so it will shift midway from the story of Moses to Muhammad, then to Jesus then to Abraham then to Muhammad again and even then this shift is not chronological either, so you'll have chapters about Muhammad when he was priest king and then the next chapter will be about when he was just describing
the whole thing is such a hassle to read and your not allowed to give it chronolectal order, its considered a form of blasphemy
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“ Teenage schoolgirls in Afghanistan have told the BBC of their growing desperation as they continue to be excluded from school more than three months after the Taliban takeover.”
The boys where all told that they where allowed back? But they said nothing about the girls. Lying pigs swore that this wouldn’t happen and that they where going to change. Of course, nobody believed them, but still. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-59565558
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I hate living in an Islamic country while being an ex-muslim. It's so suffocating having to tiptoe around it, lest they fucking lynch you for saying anything out of line.
Just yesterday, I had a professor at college saying something about how 'men were sent as our (women's) protectors' like jeez… I wonder who they are supposed to protect us from? That's right, other men. I keep getting pressured into wearing a hijab by my family, saying I'll burn in hell and take them with me there by my whore-ish ways of wearing casual clothing.
Don't know if blogposting on this thread will get me banned so saging just in case.
As a fellow ex-muslim don't ever come to your parents, they will kill you or send you to Islamic school
probably the best option is to flee, Christian NGO's are your best bet
I have known women who were willing to pretend to be Christians and live in rural Argentina rater then Pakistan
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>>4646>it feels wrong and shameful to voice my critical opinion of Islam even in the modern feminist discourse
I haven't deeply interacted with this aspect of feminism yet, but based on what I do know and where I've seen causes helping the most, I believe you'd be better off contributing to groups that directly support and/or are run by women who are already critical of islam instead of trying to convince libfem women of the reality of the situation. You'd just be wasting time talking at people who have no interest in changing their beliefs. The majority show support for toxic
religions like this to win internet brownie points and have no desire to actually learn or help women in the first place. For example there's the AHA Foundation (https://www.theahafoundation.org
) started by Ayaan Hirsi Ali who was forced to undergo FBM as a child and was going to be married off to a cousin until she escaped Somalia to Holland (her family was muslim). She worked her way up to being a member of Dutch parliament and has written several books on the topic in addition to campaigning against abuse suffered by muslim women. Donate to her foundation or ones like it, educate yourself further and only discuss the matter with those who seem to have more than half a brain cell.
(OT-ish)Although I agree with Ali (and she was the first ex-Muslim that helped validate my anti-Islamic views) is anyone else bothered by how her, like a lot of \our girls\ pander very strongly to the right until they integrate like an token minority?
I really dislike how the loss of these Feminist voices implies that these issues that they raise aren't bipartisan.
Whoops, meant FGM. Wanted to add that you can sometimes reach liberal white women by catering to their supposed concern about "intersectionalism" and asking where actual (ex-)muslim women's voices are in their discourse. If they're going on about how islam is valid
and it's everyone's right to practice what they want you can say that's great, but then why is it so hard to leave the faith? What does it mean when someone's chosen practice infringes on women's freedoms? Why are there so many outspoken ex-muslim women such as Ali and Maryam Namazie who are now being labeled as provocative all in the spirit of wokeness? It's hard to argue that women being beaten, tortured, mutilated and relegated to slavery under religion is totally cool because everyone deserves to believe whatever they want. It's far from just extremists engaging in these things. There has to be a boundary in that sort of dialogue or else I guess everyone should just be allowed to become pedo rapist murderers (which unsurprisingly, a lot of muslim men are). Namazie and Ali both signed a manifesto during the Danish cartoon riots that has a fantastic intro btw>After having overcome fascism, Nazism, and Stalinism, the world now faces a new totalitarian global threat: Islamism.
Straight from the pens of those who have lived it themselves and not just decided to weigh in from the comfort of their liberal paradises where they get to spew whatever propaganda they please. >>4660
This kind of bothers me about gc and radfem discourse in general, like with Abigail Shrier (author of Irreversible Damage, which discusses the problem with transing children) being hosted on the Joe Rogan show and a lot of our beliefs having overlap with the far right. They're definitely not in line with feminist beliefs overall but sometimes they're the only groups that will entertain ideas like this and provide feminists with a broader platform. Overall I think it's probably a good thing that the message gets spread and reaches women it wouldn't have otherwise, but there's also that risk of catering a little too hard and providing concessions in the hopes of being given handouts and benefits from the more powerful community.
western radfems really can't let women in the global south have one moment to highlight out struggles before they try to frame themselves as being in equal position, like I remember when afghanistan fell to Taliban and I saw radfem accounts tweeting about how this could happen in the west as well and their proof was some 4chan screenshots, like anon the west will never experience the level of Islamic societies, It may something hard for you to comprehend but Islam isn't just simply misogyny for the sake of misogyny, its a comprehensive belief system that is completely secure with its self, it has no doubts about its own civilizational superiority >>4658>After having overcome fascism, Nazism, and Stalinism, the world now faces a new totalitarian global threat: Islamism
while all three are bad and I'm not going to make an argument which is worse, there's a huge difference between Islamism and the ideologies, namely that Islam isn't just a political ideology, it is complete civilization guide, for Muslims the perfect society already existed
It was the thiefdom Muhammad had established, in it Muhammad was a priest king whose every decision came from God its self, for Muslims this was the perfect society and so Islam in its natural state will always revert to 7th century arabia as a model, cause Muhammad and his companions(who are the greatest and most perfect human beings, who will ever exist according to Islam) most of those men were rich slave owners and rapists who taken their slain enemies wives and daughters as their own and they are for Muslims perfect human beings in every way
Its something many ex-muslims are uncomfortable with but what choice do we have, I have spoken to lesbian ex-muslims, liberals and out communists who have had align with the rightwing simply cause every mainstream leftist party and group in the west is so hellbent of defending Islam, they think any criticism of Islam is on par with the worst forms of racism, our lives are quite literally in danger at times cause the punishment for leaving Islam is death, it is the responsibility of either the state or ghazi(Islamic warrior) to murder me, If they know I have left Islam
I mean I'd love to hear what the radfems propose as another solution, that can help people recognize our struggles and realize how fucked up the religion of the arab pedophile truly is
Islam is not the religion of "brown and black people" it is the religion of arabs, its a religion made by and for arabs, it should never have ever existed, let me tell you something about Islam >your only allowed to pray in Arabic, if you pray to god almighty in your own tongue, its considered less holy and disrepsftful to god>you pray to arab shine, the kabba existed before Islam as a meeting place for pagan arabs>you have to dress by the standards of an arab>you have to groom yourself by the standards of an arab>take arab names
Islam is 100% an arab supremacist religion
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I've spent the last 20 years of my life in hijab and modest clothing and I feel like I've wasted my youth. Rarely had friends, never had a boyfriend, and I still live with family. I've been daydreaming about the life I could have lived had I never worn the hijab.
It's hot as hell in my city and I can't do much about it. God, I wish I was normal.
I've tried and failed to go back to school. It's so hard to get a higher paying job.
I refuse to join the military or get into sex work.
Part time work at retail, close to paying off credit card debts. Flunked out of school at age 25. Still live with family, no friends, borderline NEET life
looking to gain a remote work tech job
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I was wondering if you anons could answer me some questions.
>What should you (and others) expect from dating a moid with an extremely muslim family (down to them thinking anime promotes violence and shit, etc)?
>What you generally should expect when someone in your family is dating a coomer from Saudi Arabia "that doesnt believe in God" but has extremely religious family?
I will mention the biggest red flag first:
>He convinced her to leave her first ever job because of him. She lasted only 2 months. For 2 years now all she does is sits in moms basement playing vidyas at 2i.
>He also distanced his gf from her friends and family. To a point where he would start rage spamming everytime she goes afk for like, 3 minutes or something (saw myself), he also talked shit about her friends.
>He is also Jordan Peterson biggest fan and has daddy issues, proudly screams how he is a sociopath
>They both lie whenever they are travelling to meet. The first and only reason he met her first was to have sex, kept talking about sex on Discord server after that.
This woman is not perfect but i am genuinely worried about whatever the fuck is happening. No one deserves to date an abusive person, especially if its a man.
Most Muslim women do hold hands and kiss before marriage, lmao. Even my hijabi friends date.
You could talk about how Muslim women are being killed for not wearing hijabs but instead you choose to bring up how being promiscuous isn't allowed as if that's the kind of thing any woman who's in danger cares about.
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Cp front page
What the fuck are you yapping about? The nona here >>7444
talks about how the Muslim community has such dogshit sexual double standards that many are kissless virgins that are indoctrinated into thinking that even the mildest premarital contact is for whores who marry men that are ran through at best and have participated in immoral sexual degeneracy at worst. How did you take that post and turn it into "omg isn't it sad that Muslim women cannot be promiscuous." Please spare us the anecdotes as well. Obviously, the experiences of Muslim women varies as some are Muslim in name only and can do whatever they want versus full on niqabis that are barely allowed to leave their house. But to act like Muslim families overall don't try to keep their daughters experiences with possible suitors as limited as possible is dishonest lmfao.
I love how you bring up "hijabs" as if the forced modesty that women go through, whether it be forced veiling or going as far as restricting their participation in public life because they don't want their daughters to become "whores." Dumb ass
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Desi Muslim moment
Think the porn part is bs since much of the poor countries don’t get internet
Think pornhub said even Uk views more porn then india
Let me explain as someone who lives in an oppressive country, the majority of the population can't be bothered to protest and risk their own lives over any social injustice(as truly awful as it maybe)
Be it an ethnic majority is being oppressed, or lack of freedom in expression and even sterilization and ethnic cleansing
As long as the state functions and provides for the majority people will bare and live with it, but when the state starts failing and the inconveniences are too much, well that's when the majority starts rebelling and whatever appeals to the masses will end up replacing the old order
Even the Islamic revolution was spurred by the economic failures of the Shah and how miserable average Iranians were suffering
1. it's far from their only grievance. just look at the country they live in. and you have an incorrect, simplistic view of things. most of them disagree with how women are treated. also note that many religious and conservative people don't like the state dictating what women in their family are allowed to do. but these young men instead have progressive views. you will find iranians aren't that religious.
2. it's men who riot, kill or beat up the authorities. young men willing to fight are punished most harshly because they are the only threat to the regime so they must be squashed before they become organised and armed and backed by foreigners. everyone else is easy to break and make them go back to complying. when it comes to protests actually doing anything, it is usually when they have a core of ideologically motivated violent young men making it happen. ukrainian neonazi nationalists are a big reason for the regime change in ukraine in 2014. the protests would be nothing without them. note these same people murdered opposing journalists and civilians. these are people who won't disperse just because of some punishment. so you need to kill some right away.
see this from 2014, state media of a western country admitting but trying to downplay such people's extremism (because they liked what happened).
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I think many people(even the one's who are cautious about Islam) greatly underestimate Islamists, they are politically savvy and know how to put on a good face to appease western liberals while furthering their own aims, some people are aware the Muslim Brotherhood but there are many other groups such as Jamaat-e-Islami the imrcusa and others whose main goal is spreading a pro-Islamist message and making life easer for all Muslims, they have more then enough money thanks do donations but most importantly they have the approval of western liberals which allows them to further their aims, cause they know how they present themselves, The Afghan Islamist is a bearded illiterate mountain peasant but the Islamists from these groups are often highly educated and can be doctors or engineers and their daughters will be going to universities as well, for western liberals it might seem too good to be true and that these people could help spread a more "tolerant" image of Muslims, but what they don't understand is that those Islamists fundamentally despise them and want nothing more then to spread Islam and make it the dominant religion in every space and in Islam you are allowed to lie and deceive people as long as its for the sake of Islam of spreading/protecting Islam
a great example would be the guy who who threw two shoes at Bush, in his western interviews he talks about being anti imperialism and knows how to keep his mouth shit, and people agree with him, and then he'll tweet in Arabic about how "beating your wife is completely justified cause Muhammad said so", etc…
As a non-muslim, I ask why do so many muslims seem to averse to reforming Islam? Especially since most of the discomfort people have for it is the misogyny & anti-homosexuality of it. Christians reformed their religion, you can find many Churchs with LGBT flags on it (ignoring the pro-trans trend going on.) but you'll never see a LGBT flag in a mosque etc. Of course liberal muslims exist but they are greatly outnumbered.>>9568>make it the dominant religion in every space
seems like their plans are working bcs with the way things are going islam will replace Christianity as the dominant/main religion since the women give birth to so many kids.
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It will still take many generations for that happen in Europe but it might happen if neo-liberalism continues to be the dominant political system in Europe >muslims seem to averse to reforming Islam?
simple, the Quran says your not allowed to change any aspect of Islam and how deviate from how Muhammad practiced the faith
Some would say the Quran has moral problems, others will say it has scientific errors, but theologically it is very consistent. If you read it cover to cover, you'll know exactly what it's trying to get you to believe: there is one God and you need to believe in Him and the his Messenger who was the greatest human being who will ever exist
The same cannot be said of the bible. The bible has at least several authors, ultimately with very different views, there's very secular, existentialist stuff; there's poetry; there's boring/disturbing sacrificial law plus calls to realize that actual mercy is more important than boring/disturbing sacrificial law. So ultimately, there's a lot of freedom to decide what you think.
the biggest fundamental difference between Islam and other religions is that Muhammad ruled a state for 10 years with limitless authority, for Muslims that state was the perfect utopia deemed by God, thus is would be the responsibility of any believing Muslim to make their state like that
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They do this to people who are simply the wrong sect of Muslims
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Another moment of Muslim moids justifying death in the name of the holy pedophile
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Someone, please find the women for me, I found one woman so far. (Picture was taken at an anti-quran burning demonstration, because one Swede hurt their feelings.)
I don't want to seem like I'm defending these moids, but women do also participate in these events as well, just not as violent or have their own self segregated protest spaces
like this is a woman's protest calling for the beheading of the cartoonist who drew Muhammad
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again from the perspective of a believing Muslim this is a proper response, the Quran is not just a Holy text, for Muslims it is the undisputed word of God
it is written in the language of Heaven its self, so to burn it or harm it you are insulting and waging war on God
Thank you for the info, didn't know that, the muslim women I've met so far in my country would fit your description.>>9762
Sry, sleep deprived, meant that guy.
>>10393>It was narrated that Abu Sa’eed al-Khudri (may Allah be pleased with him) said: >“The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) went out to the musalla (prayer place) on the day of Eid al-Adha or Eid al-Fitr. He passed by the women and said, ‘O women! Give charity, for I have seen that you form the majority of the people of Hell.’ They asked, ‘Why is that, O Messenger of Allah?’ He replied, ‘You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religious commitment than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you.’ The women asked, ‘O Messenger of Allah, what is deficient in our intelligence and religious commitment?’ He said, ‘Is not the testimony of two women equal to the testimony of one man?’ They said, ‘Yes.’ He said, ‘This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Is it not true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?’ The women said, ‘Yes.’ He said, ‘This is the deficiency in her religious commitment.’”
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Why more don't become leave Islam(spoilers its cause of the death penalty)
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>14 year old autistic British boy brings a copy of the Koran to school on a dare
>One of his friends accidentally drops it, damaging it slightly
>Kid gets suspended from school
>Cops investigate it as a 'hate incident'
>Kid gets death threats, has to go into hiding
>His mother is forced to apologize and beg for forgiveness in front of a group of men at a local mosque while wearing a hijab
How on Earth is that happening in a western country?
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guess her location
from her POV her logic is sound, Muslim families are usually connected, if a man dies then the connected family(who are already related) will look after a widowed woman(though she'll never be allowed to leave the house again)
I have said it before and I'll say it again, Islam on a civilizational, state-based and household basis functions, that's why its so dangerous
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I hate libfems so much sometimes
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Yes I’m an islamophobe. What are you going to do about it
Who told you widowed women in Islam aren’t allowed leave the house ever again lmao ????????
It’s only 40 days after her husband dies to make sure she isn’t pregnant and to grieve as she sees fit.
After those 40 days she’s allowed to go wherever she wants.
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>>11946>Who told you widowed women in Islam aren’t allowed leave the house ever again lmao ????????
that's the case for most Muslim families though, while on paper she is technically allowed to re-marry Islam's tribal inclinations will force her to dependent on her family
Plus Islam has a very very retarded rule that makes re-marrying harder, its that adopted Children can never ever be the children of their adopted parents and calling someone mother or father if their not actually your mother or father is a grave sin and so adopted children can't even be given the same legal or inheritance rights, the reason for this rule is cause Muhammed wanted to marry his own slained adopted son's wife, which people protested as it was considered incest to marry your son's wife, so he changed that rule and said God ordered him to
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>>11946>only 40 days
as they say the bar is in hell
>>11946>It’s only 40 days after her husband dies to make sure she isn’t pregnant>to make sure she isn’t pregnant
lmao how the fuck am I supposed to take that shit seriously? Muslim men are such deranged coomers that they're worried their wives will find someone else after they died. Aren't they preparing their lives so they can get a harem of virgins as soon as they die anyway?>>11949>its that adopted Children can never ever be the children of their adopted parents and calling someone mother or father
This shit put my cousin in some real deep shit until very recently. My aunt adopted her from our country of origin when my cousin was a baby and her bio mom dumped her to an orphanage because she had her out of wedlock or some shit, and my aunt was too stupid to notice that she was only treated as a foster parent and not as an adoptive parent by the Algerian government, which means my cousin only got her French citizenship a few weeks ago.
"Women are treated as Queens"
This can literally be disproven by watching the news in most Muslim majority countries. UK (I'm gonna guess this bitch is from the UK because the most retarded Muzzie takes always come from there) Muslim women always post this type of retarded shit and it truly makes you wonder why they don't go back to their "Islamic societies." Oh wait, it is because even they know deep down they would have to give up most of their freedoms that they grew up with. >>11958
Idk about Somalia, but from my knowledge the Pakistanis in the UK came from a ass-backwards part of Pakistan + they got to form their ethnic enclaves which caused them to double down on their retarded cultural practices and not properly assimilate. I'm a Burger of Pakistani descent, and while I wouldn't say Pakistanis here are enlightened intellectuals, there are less horrific incidents here with Pakistanis (i.e. no grooming gangs and all that nonsense). Plus, a lot of the Pakistani diaspora in the US come from the educated professional stock. Idk fam, France did have a lot of terror attacks from these Muzzie men going wild, but there really is something wrong with UK Muslims.
I don't wanna seem like I'm defending Islam or whitewashing these actions, but this can be partially be blamed on the Americans
Islamists existed everywhere but in the 20th century they didn't know how to organize themselves and most importantly didn't know how to fight, the Americans however were paranoid of "communism" and helped train and facilitate these monsters
Almost every active Islamist group from the Maghreb to South East Asia can be traced to the Soviet Afghan war, where thousands of young man went off to fight the Soviets and were trained in gruella warfare, they came back to their home countries as heroes and helped train young Islamists in how to fight actually fight a state, plus creating essentially a global network of linked Islamists
you can look it up yourself, Egypt, Afghanistan and Syria with their sub-par militaries managed to put down Islamist revolts with not much effort because the Islamist were disconnected and didn't know how to fight in guerilla warfare
If it were not for the United Stated then Islamists would never be a threat to any state or region
its not complicated, my father explained it like this, most Muslim states relied on slave armies, who would ended up becoming local warrior elites, so most of the Muslim world didn't develop proper militaries like the westhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mamluk
This is still engrained in their cultures, my father has worked with arab milarites and he told me that they are in an awful state in everything, structure, leadership, troop morale and quality of soldiers, its how a small band of rebels could overwhelm the Syrian and Iraqi armies and take large swarths of land
now I want to state again this would not have been an issue if America didn't teach their predecessors how to fight
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by chance I came across the story of Aurora Nilsson, a Swedish woman who married an Afghan diplomat nearly 100 years ago and its depressing that story is more or less the same as cases nowadays
her husband(Asim Khan) gave a progressive and western appearance to the general public and even towards her for a time period, but as soon as he got her to his home country he started beating and abusing her, he forced her to wear a birqa and forcefully convert to Islam, she was forbidden from doing anything and placed in a harem with his other wives, the moid literally sold her to slavery at one but this ended up saving her, as the the German embassy were the one's who "bought" her and commissioned her to sent back to Sweden. its fucked up but again from an Islamic perspective the man didn't do anything wrong, you are allowed to deceive others in the name of Islam and "taking" a kafir woman is a form of Jihad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora_Nilsson
I will never understand why nonmuslim women marry abusive
muslim men who abuse muslim women and then get shocked when the man abuses them as well. I've heard so many foreign women boast about how they're superior to me and that's why they can get muslim men to love them while they'd only abuse me, every time that happens, the foreign woman in question gets fucked over much worse and then makes herself out to be the victim
as if she didn't start the relationship knowing full well the muslim man had a wife in the first place. At this rate I don't feel bad for them because whenever I try to warn them, they tell me I'm jealous and that it'll be different for them.
Are you a moron ? do you know what Jihad means? Cause it literally means to struggle
In historical Islamic context, Jihad was considered any action that furthered the will and laws of Allah, this included warfare but also non-violent proselytizing, but also slave raiding
Rewarding marriage, Mohammad the greatest human being who ever lived had non-Muslim wives that he took(one whose husband he had murdered and the other a slave that was given to him) and this is presented a good thing
And they should be. I'm in a Muslim country and I see how they treat non-muslim women, muslim men should be avoided at all costs. >>12687
Varg or any of the neonazis you said you wanted to be a "stay at home slave" to would kill you just like how Mohammed killed that woman's husband. Didn't one of the neonazis you simp for also murder a man? But that doesn't matter now, does it?
I'm a Muslim woman who has dated both Muslim, Atheist and Christian men. The most feminine, weak and childish ones were Muslim men who wanted me to be a mommy to them whilst most women either want a protective man or at least an equal partner. It's also worth noting that a lot of muslim men feel attraction to trannies and men, the bisexuality rates are terrifyingly high.
I'm not saying other men were great, I'm just saying muslim men are too feminine for my taste personally.
That's why a lot of women regardless of religion and race don't go for muslim men unless they're super rich, muslim men are too feminine and clingy. What they lack in masculinity, they try to make up with abuse towards women. Only a man who's too weak to fight with men lifts his hand to hit a woman.
please don't attribute negative male traits as being "feminine" but you are correct that many men from Muslim groups(chiefly South Asian and Arab men) are less capable of taking care of themselves, its an entire culture of entitled mama's boys
one big thing I notice this thing with south asian and arab men, is where individually they are very awkward, when they are with their friends they act like super macho and patronizing.
also I'd argue that pseudo bisexuality as also an end result of extreme misogyny, pedophiles are often extreme misogynists
Muslim men I know are attracted to men which is a feminine trait. They cry more often which is also a feminine trait. They expect their spouse to take care of them which again, feminine trait. They get plastic surgery and wax their brows and bodies which again are feminine.
Bisexuality is caused by both them being super misogynistic and gay men being forced to marry and pass on gay genes for decades.
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My three sisters are now fasting for ramadan at the same time. I'm doomed. I'm completely sure it's by choice because we're in a country where Islam as a shitty reputation and it's not like their friends suggested they do it the previous years. I'm almost glad my health has always been bad because that way they won't try to convince me to fast. And I also told them and our parents several times that I don't give a shit about Islam or even religions in general but they find this upsetting and think it makes me an equivalent of a race traitor. Thank god I have no Muslim friends or acquaintances outside of work, at least I don't have to worry too much when I secretly eat pork in restaurants.
ah yes the good old boomer comparison of comparing women to weak animals and men to hunters.
Andrew tate and other manosphere men also make the same comparisons, nice to know you spew the same garbage, paki-chan.
I've seen retards on this board saying het women are victims
because they "have to date their natural predator". lel.
1. I'm not pakichan
2. it was a pretty realistic comparison to make when muzzie men regularly kill and mutilate women.
You replied to me retard, I wasn't the one who made the prey remark. Your brain really is rotten.>>12791
No one is scared of you or any other muslim men, faggot. Go to any foreign country as a Muslim man and try to actually hurt a woman, you'll literally be caught before you can do anything, thrown to jail and get assraped, you'd probably enjoy it though like the faggot you are. Like do you seriously think the average skinny barely 170cm weak mutilated dick possessing muslim man whose most evolved weapon is a rock is going to scare anybody? Please! An average obese American woman could probably choke that type of muslim dude to death with one hand. No one gets scared of you, perhaps they'd get scared of your deformed face and mutilated penis but that's it.
what are you on about, I'm 2-3 inches taller then half the men in my country and I'm still afraid of them, just because a moid is short doesn't mean he isn't a threat.
like a couple months ago 2 barely five feet tall men started stalking me while I was at the vegetable market, what do you think I should have done? tell them "you don't scare me cause your manlets" no I ran to my car and left and didn't appear in that market for weeks
>>12800>Go to any foreign country as a Muslim man and try to actually hurt a woman, you'll literally be caught before you can do anything, thrown to jail and get assraped
Man, I wish. I guess it only applies if you're a white woman in a white majority country because I live in Europe, I'm perceived as muslim by everyone there and nobody would give a fuck if some unknown brown guy was following me, beating me or raping me, including the police. I once called the police as a teenager because my physically violent father was threatening to stab my little sister over a chocolate bar, the police took more than an hour to arrive, talked to our parents first for like 30min and felt bad for them, came to see my sister and I, called us spoiled brats because being severely abused by our parents is just part of "our" culture as muslims and we should be grateful because some kids have it even worse then they just left us to our own device. They'd give even less of a fuck if it was some random guy doing the same shit to us and passerbys in the street or in public transport tend to assume that if some random brown, possibly muslim woman is with a brown guy they most likely know each other even if the guy is blatantly harrassing and stalking the woman so if something happens to us we can't count on others to help us at all.
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she was so real for this
It really does seem deeply concerning that women, girls, and infant refugees aren't given absolute priority over the males. Women and girls, as well as some young boys if the previous two are not available, are literally always the main victims
of horrific violence in literally any genocide, warzone, or extremist group. Female refugees are generally pretty peaceful people who can integrate into society well, whereas the males will just assault children and their fellow refugees.
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I unironically hate libfem Muslims 100x more then regular Islamist Muslim women, cause they aren't being hypocrites, their simply following their creed that they believe in but libfem Muslim will deny what's right in front of them and create their own truth.
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This is the issue of racism in Islam right, the fact is cultural wise Muhammad and his companions were a bunch of 7th century Arabs who practiced slavery, of course they would have retarded Ideas about race, along with society in general.
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The World is healing.
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Absolutely sick and inhuman.
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Muslim scrotes just attacked the Swedish embassy in Iraq because an Iraqi man threatened to burn the quran in Sweden. The moids are just the worst level of dumb and violent. Fuck people, a book is more important than lives to them.
I also hate how these moids are happy to live in Sweden and wear modern clothes and harass us native women while their completely covered wives and prepubescent but still covered daughters walk behind them. They won't even let their girls be kids.
You're stupid beyond belief. Burning quran and torah isn't going to accomplish anything. Also Qur'an doesn't condone a man raping you and we've discussed this so many times, stop using sexual trauma that's not even yours as an excuse to discriminate against oppressed women of different religions.
Hate any religion if you must but what you're doing now isn't productive, again if you really cared about the muslim women or girls in third world countries, you'd donate to shelters and send then necessities instead of condoning protests that are only done for publicity.
Btw im assuming you're exmuslim yourself but unfortunately unbelieving the religious practices haven't undone the damage caused by centuries of inbreeding, you seem just as stupid as your muslim counterparts.
>>18116>I'd rather amputate myself to help women and kids whose ideas I disagree with
This is what you said, exmuslim sister. How many generations of inbreeding are you suffering from that you think this type of misogyny will help your argument?
You're just like the men you hate
>>18192>admitting that you don't care about women in need>saying you'd mutilate yourself rather than help women and children in need >using their religion as an excuse
Nonjew people donated to jewish people in need and israel donated to muslim countries after natural disasters. Religion is never an excuse to write misogynistic fiction where you watch women die off and refuse to help them because you don't believe in their teachings.
Either way, someone like you probably doesn't even earn enough to help anyone so I'm probably wasting my time. Oh and also, no matter how much you hate on muslim kids and women and write fanfictions of them dying, you'll be treated similarly to them by westerners. One look will give away your heritage and one word you speak will reveal your deep misogyny, stupidity and hatred towards women.
You're just like pakichan who argued she was the whitest of her race and passed as European but when she showed her picture, it was an average Pakistani/Indian woman. You guys never realize that you'll never be like the people you prise as both you and pakichan are obviously misogynistic and nonwhite, you both act like Muslim men with the way you praise violence against women and refuse to help those who you disagree with. You hate muslim women the same way she hates western women. You're just two misogynistic selfhating losers.
>>18197>Nonjew people donated to jewish people
Jewish isn't a religion, and Jews didn't do the mass child sacrifice Nazis attributed to them. Muslims, however, do blow up shit, fuck children, kill people for the most idiotic reasons I've ever heard, and bring stone age attitudes everywhere they go.>refuse to help them because you don't believe in their teachings.
Because I don't want those horrible teachings to spread.>women
Why should I pander to some Muslims because they happen to be women?>assumptions about my ethnicity and background
Did you really think I would reply to these?
>>18205>anon you have a crush on
Yeah… If you weren't the racist mentally ill woman who said she'd kill western women to get a nazi bf, you wouldn't assume anyone would crush on her.
Anyway, get help.
Who am I to dissuade Anonymous in the throes of omniscience? Everyone except you is pakichan. She's in your walls, she's under your bed, she's behind you.
I can see no point in derailing the thread any further, so I'll just say I stand by my previous posts:>>18059>>18116>>18192>>18201
I won't reply to you pakichan but next time you post, make yourself less obvious. For starters you're the only muslim poster on this board who writes about wishing ill and suffering on women of specific groups(sometimes black, sometimes muslim, sometimes western) because she feels personally insulted by their existence.
Either way, you're deeply mentally ill and I feel bad for you. It's not normal to wish ill on people of a certain race and say you'll cut off your hand, it's not normal to attack westerner women when you realize you'll never be treated the same as them. Just stop this Self-hatred and work on yourself. This is genuinely sad and although no one will judge you for changing your religion, you'll definitely be judged for your extremist views and hatred towards women.
I hope you heal. It's hard being someone like you who hates a group of people and yet gets greeted by a member of that group whenever she sees her own reflection.
There are multiple anons here, you must be delusionalor a literal retard to think theyre all pakichan (who is also amothe retard). You yourself said how how you're not gonna read other anons posts yet you will still reply to them without even reading what they said. I guess a paragraph is too much for your pea sized brain. Also you want to play the "you are white worshippers" card after using a dogwhistle against brown people who don't agree with you which you claim is not racist….sure.
I am a liberal, support and do activism for other poc
and minoritys , obviously know that white people do look down on poc
…..yet just because I despise Islam for many reasons that now makes me whatever you want to label me as. Honestly it sounds more like projection from you and you do sound like a very low iq and privileged "woman". Also your posting style is very obvious and I saw you on snow too, so I guess you're shitting up the whole site and not just the hidden boards.>>18208
There is a lot of mentally ill posters here.
I'm white but I don't understand why you're bringing race up and I'm not low iq unlike you, who believes burning books or refusing to help women and kids you don't agree with is a good idea.
Anyway, no one cares if you support poc
in words, you're still discriminating against people who are muslim and I doubt you dont discriminate against jews or Christians either since their religion is quite similar to Islam.
Yes I am privileged and proud because both me and my parents worked our whole lifes for it, I'll always be more privileged than you because I spent my time studying and saving up while you spent your time crying about your identity and hating yourself. And again I will get treated much better than you ever will as I'm an educated white woman while you're an uneducated misogynistic woman who's oozing with hatred towards those of her own kind. You're someone I'd avoid like plague and trust me, everyone else also will and most of the time it has nothing to do with your skin color. I'm saying most of the time because there will be people who are going to avoid you for your skin color, the same people that are supporting torah and quran burnings that is.
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And what's scary is that he's not wrong, by Islamic law being an apostate deserves only death, either by the state or a handful of true believers.
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>Palestinian family doesn't want Taliban supporters in a pro-Palestine rally
>QRTs are filled with Muslim(mostly south asian) dispora men calling these people Liberals and saying how only the "Islamic Ummah" can truly liberate Palestine.
It's all so tiresome.
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>>20568>but is a flag of Afghanistan!
Yes, also used by Talibans. You would think using the red/white/green/combo would be more useful than using the flag of a Muslim country infamous for their religion.
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I bet this moid didn't do shit about Ukraine.
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I’m starting to lose patience with people on the Palestine issue. It’s bad that people namely children are being bombed. Feeling sympathy for them isn’t the same as supporting Islam or Hamas. If Hamas wins they’re just gonna remake ISIS 2.0 and more women and children suffer. Both sides treat humans as inconveniences.
After this, the left will worship Islam and let Muslims do anything forever. They justify mass immigration and rape as revenge for colonization despite the fact that all the orbit colonizers are dead. If you hate who’re people and western culture then just stay away from the west, forever!
Secretly disappointed by the reactions of exmuslims on Twitter.
>>20683>If Hamas wins they’re just gonna remake ISIS 2.0
They aren't gonna win, that's not even a possibility, the greatest victory for Islam in the past 300 years was a gruella campaign for 20 years that led to a destroyed nation, where the other party just left and they ruled the destroyed aftermath, that's it but in direct battle they usually lose. In my country I was taught that one Muslim soldier was equal to 10 non-Muslim one's, mind you my country has lost every single war and battle we've been in.>Secretly disappointed by the reactions of exmuslims on Twitter.
what's been the reaction?
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One side saying they don't care about the violence because they're Arabs and this is what Arabs do and Israel is a modern " civilized" state and they should be grateful to be near them and should emulate them.
The other side says this is a genocide and we must do everything we can have a ceasefire. With loud voices on the left talking about we must harass all the jews worldwide, and spread the word on the world of Islam.
Even the I?P thread thread got locked due to racebait and the tinfoil thread has been closely monitored.
Why do I have to actively defend people who hate me? It's everywhere and I can escape the discourse. How is "Queers for Palestine" all right but this isn't? I thought you guys wanted all the support you can get.
Worse thing is that people are comparing what Jewish people had to deal with in WWII with the conflict now calling them "Nazis", like they have no grabbed a history book at all.
I want to point them this video that explains to kids how the Palestine-Israel conflict started (spoiler: way before WWII), but I bet they wouldn't even understand a simple video.
It feels almost like they needed a reason to show their anti-semitism without being judged.
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>People calling a "cease the fire" means they're anti-palestine and zionists.
Holy fuck, people, and then you see why no celebrity wants to speak their mind unless they suits your shit.
I'm atheist but the amount of antisemitism and Palestinians being told to STFU because "you're not with us" is horrible for me, specially when most of Jewish people even blame the DIF or their government for tearing the country apart, but means shit for Leftist because "if you're SO against this, please leave that place, colonizer", which is not an easy peaky thing like the video explains.
Anybody that is asking for a cease, even if they're Palestinian, are attacked as Nazi or Zionists or a traitor for not speaking for the "poor oppressed", while ignoring Muslims do stuff they choose to ignore like "oh that's their religion, let them be".
This is what happens when the Leftist choose to die in a hill they have no idea how it's started, start parroting like a telephone game, kids that didn't even were born when Hamas was elected start to share shady links and blame the innocent people than blame England for the colonialism like the video says or not blame BOTH governments for doing a shitty job to defend their people.
Palestine-Israel situation is not going to end just because people start to support Palestine even more. It's going to end when one of the countries gets the land and even then, Americans will use their American centrist brain to shit on "who is the oppressor and who is the oppressed", like most Leftist American people love to say even if no one asked them.
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>1970's Iranian tea commercial showing different generations of Iranian women.
Is sad for from '80 there's no much change except for the hijab color.>>20779>>20782>and the Israelis will just leave after that.
If were that easy, many countries would have left after seeing some delusional twitter from foreign countries. The goverment is not going to do shit to please foreigners that have no idea how this started, nor give more options for both countries except yelling them "nazi".
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I agree. The fact that people prefer to use the "lol white European" on Israeli people so they don't feel guilty while pointing at them should be a "POC
erasure", but they can bend the rules how it fits them.
They should see the problem with Bangladesh-India border dispute to see why is not easy to just say "well, let's divide this for Palestine and this for Israel" or even "Well, let's make all Israelis go free to another countries so Palestine can have 'their' country back". But asking them to learn the situation fully is like asking to a 5-year-old to explain why dinosaurs went extincts.
are you Israeli by any chance? if you don't mind me asking.
Also I do many find myself annoyed with "all or nothing" mentality that many leftists and activists have, that all the land has to be returned, simply because "one side is the oppressor and one is the oppressed" and that could very well be true, but that doesn't change the material factors that Palestine doesn't have anything to fight or negate with, giving up is sometimes the only option, my people lost our homeland as well and we have made peace with it.
I'm not, and I do support Palestine too, but I'm annoyed also for the "all or nothing" mentality that many leftists and activist have, specially with their beaten to a dead horse motto >>20644
Is good to share what people are suffering to be aware of the situation? Yes. Is good to use it for a "hollier-than-thou" because you support US or YOU are the enemy? fuck no.
I really don't wanna seem like I'm defending the Islamic Republic, cause I hate them more then you can imagine but the things you posted don't show the full picture, the vast majority of Iranian women were feudal farmers living in abject poverty, people don't revolt in the millions over short skirts, they revolt when their children have nothing to eat, the Shah who had the been installed by MI6 and CIA was a tyrant who had sold our Iran and arrested all the communists, nationalists and liberals and so the Mullahs with their positions would be only the one's who would take power after him, another thing that fucked thing was that after decades of the US supporting the Shah's repressive rule, President Jimmy Carter(who I think is a well meaning man) demanded that the Shah put down his army and repression against the organized Mullahs organized mob and solve the problem democratically or the US would place sanctions on them, and the Shah did exactly that, and we all know what happened afterwards
so much unnecessary oppression of tens of millions of women could have been avoided.
I mean, is aimed at kids, of course they're not going to tell all the detailed or gory stuff like the Munich Olympics 1972 or stuff like that.
And yeah, there have been reports of Jewish people being beaten up outside Israel while supporting Palestine and no one seems to care because "it was a zionist trying to infiltrate themselves" or shit like that. The stuff in Gaza is horrifying, and doesn't seem to finish with a simple "please, ceasefire".
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I wonder why.
You made me think on certain artist doing a comic about how she was happy seeing her gay friends having gay parades and such, because in her country she would have been killed for it (I cannot recall if is Malaysia or Indonesia).
Most of the answers were "Why are you so Islamophobic??" or "Don't you know there are queer Islamist too??" rather than help said artist to leave the city or the country. Way to prove the artist's point, people.
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It's like living through the post-9/11 period again. it's impossible to talk about the religion someone squealing about how you're an evil Jew or Hinduvata(?) or a "christofascist". Even the r/exmuslim subreddit is going through it. I hate how the religion is associated without he people and it's a protected class. I understand why Ayaan converted. It's easier to avoid and ignore these people than to try to change their mind. I resent the fact that I was born Muslim.
I've said it before, but reading your faith through an objective lens is the greatest demystification of it. I was a zealot at one point, I genuinely believed in Islam, and any sort of argument with morality didn't matter to me. This is why I really wish states would adopt an Ataturk-style approach to Islam. That is, not ban it, but localize it. Translate the Quran into the state language (be it German, French, or whatever), have the prayers all be in local languages, remove the Arab aspects of Islam, and make it bare bones that demystifies the faith.
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Do you think having an expose on Rab racism/chauvinism be the light in the crack? Like the thing that gets people especially westerners to see what a false and chauvinistic religion Islam is?
>>21105>The Quran is actually repetitive
this too, it's actually becomes kinda annoying after a while. >>21116
I do think things will only get better if there's a rise of nationalism and secularism like the 20th century, to me nothing else can challange Islam.
tried reading the quran once, it really was just "THE GREATEST THE GREATEST MOST MERCIFUL THE GREATEST" over and over and over again
this isn't pc to say but islam really feels like a religion made by a low iq severely autistic OCD moid to me
It feels like that because it's the truth.
what country do you live in? If you live in the west there might be a chance, if you live in a non-Muslim country with your parents I do have an Idea, you could try some Christian NGO that is willing to help smuggle out persecuted Christians in the west.
other then that https://www.reddit.com/r/IWantOut/
is the best resource, I have mutuals who managed to leave their Muslim nations thanks to it.
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One of my mutuals is conducting a list on stupid western women who defend Islam's misogyny. Crazy how every one of these chicks would be beaten and raped and killed in a real islamic society
I've always hated women like this because they think you are meant to suffer so they can use you for woke points. If conservatives weren't so racist I think I would have been one
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I fucking hate women like her! I hate hypocrites! I hate libfems! Swap places you lying progressive freak!
More than one year ago there was a revolution in Iran with women cutting their hair because Mahsa Amini was killed after she was arrested by "morality police" because her headscarf show a little bit of hair. Why women defend Islam for being a "poor poc
religion" after that makes me speechless.
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Fuck Islam and fuck shitty muslim moids mass murder and enslavement of women and children.
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So, I'm recommending some Middle Eastern women to check out who are genuine feminists (not the western pro-Hijab ones), but who are also grounded in reality and not disconnected morons either. These women were relatable to the people in their own country and did not alienate a grand majority.
>Nawal El Saadawi