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I came across this and…I'm slightly disturbed
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i was scrolling down my twitter feed (where i mainly follow western male sports stars) and this popped up. it was so fucking horrifying, especially compared to the pictures of normal looking men.>>349796
god, male kpop artists look absolutely hideous. the combination of their manlet stature, plastic surgery and awful dye jobs is not doing them any favours.
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And Jaejoong looks haggard these days.
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>>349816>I wonder how he's going to age
I think during a live video he got pissed at international fans saying "look out there's a ghost behind you" and said he could tell they weren't Korean because their grammar was off.
Not as offensive as V but still annoying
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I know Yeri's fridge body gets a lot of shit but Seulgi's isn't that much better
i haven't heard of sasaengs breaking into their home but iirc it happened to exo, a sasaeng broke into their dorm and stole fucking piss from their toilet.
some sasaeng shit i know about bts, one almost caused them to get in a car accident and accused jungkook of smoking afterwards (to shift blame i guess), another sasaeng hit suga in an airport, they got mobbed in airports several times and vid related is v getting chased down by fans.
the least likely to snap at a fan are jimin and jungkook lol, both are too dependent on them. the most likely is probably v. he already shoved his own phone on a sasaeng's face who was doing the same and he doesn't seem timid towards fans, i mean, he didn't think a second before pulling some girl on a fansign's hair. i don't think he'd do anything physical but maybe also suga, when bts got mobbed in an airport some twitter stans were mad that an environment like that could trigger
him because he has social anxiety. does he actually have it, i don't know
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this twitter thread is a good read if anyone is interested in getting a general overview of the insane shit these obsessed fans do: https://twitter.com/ccr66p/status/695790224232697856
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Lmao he did look like Jimin when he was younger. These idols age like milk.
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Sulli's doing it again. I wonder why SM don't even try to stop her? Isn't it bad for their PR?
Sulli is the OG princess of Lee Soo Man, she's given much more of a pass than anyone at SM.
From a business standpoint she's not costing any money to retain because she's not an idol anymore, and SM generally looks the other way until buzz from her antics dies down. She's like a Kardashian - generates buzz for breathing, even if that buzz is negative.
I think suga might have some form of social anxiety, it's not that uncommon. Once fans go to rowdy when they were leaving a fan sign or something and he cried in the elevator
He definitely wouldn't do anything to sasaengs, he isn't ballsy enough
Is there soem reason for this other than being crazy? Like, "if I write a letter to him with my fertile period blood under the full moon surely the love spell will work"
Anyway good job grossing out your stalking victim.
I also want to know what kind of mental illnesses/personality disorders they gotta have to act like this.
Most likely. This is what's written on Taecyeon's letter:>I dedicate to Taecyeon my period blood letter>Ok Taecyeon, You cannot live without me>Sprinkled with a few strands of my pubes
It's disgusting af but between this and blood that comes out of self-harm this is just slightly better lmao.
i don't think jimin, a male ana chan, is going to punch anyone with his frail arms. and rapmon has to stick to his ~woke, but soft boi uwu~ persona. it'd probably be taehyung, he seems unhinged enough to do something like that. it would be so milky to see stan twitter (especially the sea fans and the wealthy western fans) try to justify it.>>349866
kek, they are running out of pr stunts to pull. jennie and kai are the new it couple now. i do hope edawn and hyuna release some music though, i want to see whatever shit tier crackhead soundcloud music they release flop. i wonder if they get desperate enough to do a pregnancy stunt.
Or she just wants to be memorable, in her eyes it's better to be "the crazy bitch who scarred oppa for life" rather than just another girl sending plushies and harmless gifts.
There was this one idol who I think got slapped by a sasaeng? Idk who that was or even if it's true but I've heard it float around
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Are you kidding me
Not like Triple H was doing great to begin with, one Cube rookie who went on Produce 101 sold more albums than them and he hasn't formally debuted yet. Hyuna created Triple H to touch her boyfriend in public, that's it.
Jennie and Kai are attractive and shower regularly plus an SM-YG couple is like the Romeo and Juliet of Kpop considering how much YG hates anything SM related.
If Kpop companies were smarter they'd set up idols on dates to generate more buzz before their albums like how Hollywood stars "get caught" on dates when they have a new movie coming out.
Jennie is the prettiest in Blackpink IMO.
Also not to start tinfoiling but are Kai's features common in Korean men? I heard that a lot of idols still keep any mixed heritage under wraps. He doesn't look fully Korean to me - but maybe I'm being stupid because I haven't seen many Korean/Asian men around where I live
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No anon, it's PS that makes him look like he's mixed.
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This is so unfortunate lmao
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yeah, it's sm's side effect
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He used to look like a basic HKnger before Got7, so 100% PS
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Kim Hyung Jun and his brother look mixed to me, but idk
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A lot of the sasaeng rationalize the behavior with "doing shitty, disgusting things to Oppa will make him remember who I am".
It's a way to ensure they're not just another 'faceless fan' and that they are actually noticed between all the fans. It's crazy, but the worst part is it actually works.
It's funny how kpop stars are always humblebragging on tv shows
Kai said he was mistaken as a girl a lot in school but he doesn't look like one at all in this pic
I'd bet on the misogynist line, aka V and Jimin. Jimin would only do that if the sasaeng is a very petite girl though, being a coward ana manlet as he is>>349866
They are? Ah, called it. Some weeks ago they had a photoshoot wearing engagement rings as earrings… that was before the Jennie and Kai news though, it stole the buzz
He was just THAT impressed by Rat Monster's pussy-beating lyrics that he wanted to go where he was.
Fuck established companies like Cube, FNC and Starship, he wanted to be in some nugu company nobody knew of with his beloved Namjoon hyung uwu~~
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No offense to fridge body, but come on
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Also same fag adding this treat of a photo
Reupload to hide who’s profile I grabbed it off
Kek, that's just like how Jin says he was street scouted by one of the big 3 companies. There's no way that true.
Everyone one in BTS is a idol reject (or couldn't make it as a rapper) and that's why they had to join a broke nobody company that only had a failed girl group under their belt.
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Apparently a sasaeng is threatening to expose NCT's Yuta as gay. Tbh he doesn't need to be outed, the way he acts towards Winwin speaks for itself
Even after being streetcasted, people still do have to pass the audition, it's not like streetcasting automatically guarantees they'll offer a contract.
Armys screeching about how lucky Jin was that he didn't make it into EXO….judging by his complete lack of talent I don't think he'd have made it in anyway. He's not even at Sehun levels of talent.
Idk about now but 2 years ago RM was pushed by bighit so hard, is it because he is the songwriter? He's insufferable to look at on stage, why does he get so much praise lol>>349948
Eh, I've seen a video where he was going to a club and was eyeing some girl on the way, not that it proves anything but come on, they're all doing fanservice all the time. The way he and Jungwoo are constantly clinging onto other members makes me think that's the only way to make sm give them spotlight. If you don't attract enough of fans' attention, they have 20 other members to put in front of the camera.
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>>349841>stole fucking piss
oh my god? did you say "anything with dnk" in the last thread? i wonder if they freeze this shit and try to impregnate temselvses with it somehow. jokes aside im pretty sure they do something creepy with the material, like have it analyzed
but still… piss, from the TOILET? i am unable to even
and the stalkers in the video are also on some other shit. i wouldnt begrudge anyone for hitting a person like that
Somehow the youngest members of most groups get the most delulu fans >>349956
I think rat was pushed so hard because the deep sad intellectual thing was and still is kind of trendy and they had already been pushing him as some 200iq genius
Also he might as well be sucking Bang PD's dick with how much he's clearly favored.
Maybe he just cried to him about how he didn't get as much pussy as the pedobait line so Bang based they're concept off the German lit Rat beats off to so much, and made him the start.
Most of them are underage and you can't, under Korean law. Plus, how are they realistically supposed to identity and sue 150 random people who might not even be korean, who would just be replaced with other stalkers if they actually stopped after being arrested?
I know people love to pretend SM is the big bad like >>350011
but sasaengs are a legitimate danger and cause car crashes. They are more trouble than they're worth. But it's not practical to take legal action against hundreds of kids they don't even know the names of.
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JYP might just be shadier than YG and SM combined, at least YG is open about being a predator and LSM's scandals are only financial in nature
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if you ever wanted more proof that idols actually look cakey af in person and their skin isn't pristine, take a look at this photo luna herself posted to instagram yesterday
something about luna always seems so smug on her instagram, like one too many people said she was really skinny and was just like boa and she really believes it. >>350041
jyp girl groups are some of the worst for having girls 14-16 being dressed way too old and having adult concepts. in general jyp is a weird company but they get away with it because they mediaplay about giving trainees sex ed classes
Don't forget that JYP is member of a cult as well.
He was outed in like feburary last year, and told the media he would do a press conference in September, and now here we are and he still hasn't clarified anything.
(kinda unrelated but not really) Current fans have absolutely no clue how shady JYP is. There were tons of rumours surrounding his artists around ten years ago that I can't speak on due to lack of credible sources. Who knows what happens in Korea that they manage to keep under wraps.
However, when Wonder Girls moved to the NYC headquarters and toured the US, his mistreatment of the girls became apparent to western fans. JYP USA staff got pretty close with western fansites and fans in general, probably in an attempt to simply promote the girls to their fans abroad but this backfired on JYP.
People were questioning whether they even had appropriate entertainment visas, especially for the underage members. The girls were sleeping in a tiny shared flat at JYP headquarters, which is standard in South Korea, but iirc there was some controversy surrounding his permit for commercial property (not an appropriate residential property for the girls and staff to live in), all because real estate/rent in NYC was too expensive for the company at the time (their artists weren't selling anything close to current day TWICE sales).
What I can 100% confirm is that WG's English teacher (who tutored them at their hq for months, during the time that Sunmi was switched out for Lim) made a public statement concerning the girls mistreatment in America, explaining that the girls were stressed and depressed, and he specifically cited that as the reason for Sunmi's break down and departure from the group when she was 17. His story lines up with how Yubin described her sudden departure (they were bunkmates) and how Sunmi later talked about her music career (that being a singer really stressed her out and can make her sad) etc.
When newsites and blogs started reporting and reposting HIS statement, the teacher sent defamation cease & desist letters from his lawyer (source: I received the letter for posting his statement on Soompi) and then he clearly quit or was fired from JYP as he was never heard of again. The girls never mentioned him thereafter. So JYP clearly threatened him with legal action for speaking out in fear that this news would make it back to South Korea. Unforunately Korean fans never seemed to have picked up on it because everything was taken down so quick.
To this day the official explanation is that "sunmi wanted to pursue her academic career" (for a degree she never even finished lol) and fans are willing to overlook any indication of mental health issues. I would pay so much money to go back in time and take screenshots of that shit.
JYP just doesn't have enough confidence in his GG's staying power, Wonder Girls were the undisputed #1 before he took them to America thinking they needed to go even higher.
Now with Twice JYPE fears that they might be replaced by Blackpink and Red Velvet - Twice is huge in Japan for sure but they remain unknown in international markets, which is where JYP still wants to make an impact, and Blackpink especially have a very Western sound and image that already gets them international attention. Bad Boy also got RV good press, while each Twice song charts high but doesn't have the impact that Cheer Up and TT did.
He doesn't realize that Twice will still be on top even if they took a few months off.
Barbie dolls??? I know there's a doll-making community that loves making dolls of their favorite idols (re: BTS) and theyre super freaky.
Or is it really Mattel making that shit for them bc if that's the case, there's no way they'll be able to separate themselves from the identities they've made in BTS
come on, that doesnt mean anything lol. tons of american celebrities were in bands or famous as kids and that didn't hinder them.
realistically, a couple members of bts will become successful soloists, some will go into producing, a couple will go into acting, and the rest will show up on some Korean reality or variety show as a judge or something.
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>>349851>soyul couldnt even get knocked up by someone who was attractive when they were younger
this makes me sad he's always been an ugly samchon and this is who that cute young girl who could probably have any guy she wanted, famous or not, chose to go through with a shotgun wedding with because he knocked her up
do you think she was drunk when the initial sex happened?
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taeyeon terrifies me now wtf
her eyes dont even look human anymore
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you chose a flattering picture lmao
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their heads look huge compared to hers… and she's also more petite
i think part of the issue is that he always came off as a bit of a creep
always hanging around with the younger girl idols on variety and eventually marrying one whos not only quite a bit younger, but also is kinda known for her youthful almost childlike image
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Stop projecting, ana-chan. This woman is 95lbs at most, and has a freakishly small waist.
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When you compare it
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While we're talking about bodies, I find the praising of Rose's body very uncomfortable. She's so ana she makes her group members look normal in comparison
To be honest I feel anxious by even just trying to imagine how it is like to be an idol. Dealing with crazy fans who follow you, do creepy shit, might break in your apartment, might put cameras in your room/bathroom, might even try to hurt you or pull a Mark David Chapman on you…
Plus, whoever you date is in literal danger.
Not to count the abuse you get from your boss (see: JYP and Wonder Girls), the pressure, the plastic surgery… it just doesn't seem a desirable life to me
Statistically there are gonna be gay dudes in NCT but Yuta doesn't really ping my gaydar. Ten is so obviously gay it's basically an open secret at this point, on the other hand.
Jungwoo and Yuta both seem like that type of heterosexual guy who plays up the Soft Sensitive Heteroflexible Guy act for coochie.
huh, yuta strikes me as one of the most straight-presenting members do i’d be genuinely surprised.
i’m surprised no ones tried to out ten or doyoung yet; maybe they’re too obvious kek
idk he's so feminine and kinda has that bitchy gay man thing going for him, never seen a church boy quite so flaming. in a lot of ways he feels like a more subdued and introverted ten to me. but i guess we'll never know.
hendery gives me slight gay vibes too but it's way too early to tell. maybe it's bc he reminds me of ten kek
ok you’re right, yeah. for me it’s like that with dy too. and ten’s the obvious one lol
wonder how many obvious gays there will be in nct
Do you not know what those words mean
Speculating on who's gay and who's straight and just doing fanservice is pretty common for this thread. We do it with BTS all the time.
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What a retarded group name, even for kpop.
>>350414>would mean black pink and red velvet stepping on twice's neck
Isn't it already happening?
Imho JYP did his worst mistake ever by disbanding WG right when they had the most interesting concept I've ever seen in kpop (the band one). There were so many things he could've done with the band concept, WG was really standing out, and he threw it all out of the window for another pedobait group.
They could have cut to the chase and called them Delinquents for extra thug street cred.
It really seems like Stray Kids is JYP's attempt to copy BTS - 7 members, 3 "rappers" writing emo songs about depression and youth, ugly members. >>350440
Why So Lonely did very well in Korea and even won a few critics' awards; if JYP was smart he'd capitalize off that attention and the public's nostalgia and keep WG semi-active, giving them an annual comeback. Maybe then the other members except Sunmi wouldn't struggle in their solo careers as much if they had the Wonder Girls name backing them up still.
Twice has peaked: They have a big fandom with moderate public interest, but they aren't getting new fans. It doesn't help that they are releasing the most boring music out of the RV/BP/TW
trio.>>350466>One year, two at max, and it's gonna disband imo
Well, that's the whole point of these Produce groups though, isn't it? They were never mean to be permanent.
fujo-chan, you're so fucking easy to spot because you sperg out about people being fujo everytime somebody mentions the word "gay". You've been doing it for the last 3 threads. Could you tell us why people talking about homosexuality triggers
you so much? Are you an angry lesbian?
People are gossiping/discussing gay rumors aren't shipping or fangirling.
>>350510>it's getting real old
And discussing how ugly jimin is/how x girl ruined her face with ps/how jennie is a untalented and lazy/etc etc etc isn't?
If you don't want to discuss a post, just fucking ignore it instead of starting an argument every single time. Or make your own post about another topic instead of just complaining. If your post is interesting people will reply. Sure would be great if we didn't have to spend 80 posts in every thread with you screaming fujo and people replying to you.
this point has been brought up many times in the threads but these people were so ready to jump on the hate bandwagon without questioning anything, if it were their oppars doing stuff in front of a mosque there'd suddenly be a million ways to justify it>>350572
i keep seeing tweets like "im 19/25/57 but imma buy a doll like im a 5 year old, im so quirky" and can they please for the love of god stop
Completely fucking worthless. Legit your average junior high school chorus student can sing better than this.
On a side note is there any other fandom besides kpop where stans brag about their faves being stable
To me vocal stability (ie being able to hold a note and stay on pitch) should be the bare minimum of what to expect not something notable.
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she looks like a corpse
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Stans will argue she's all natural while looking like this
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i know this is overdone and tired but…yo wtf
**forgot to sage
Pretty much all of BP come from money, even Lisa is upper middle class by Thai standards. It's why all they can (barely) pull off is the "rich bitch" type of concept because that's all they've known. >>350673
Nice try Stray Kids fan. Anyway I agree that they do sing better than BTS but tbh that's a low bar.
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BTS is going to be even more depressed this comeback. Tumblr is dead now can they fucking stop
wow the teaser for her solo sounds so good
i don't usually mind that type of indie girl voice but it barely works with the right song, you can't just sing everything that way
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WOW!!!!!!! FUKIN DEEEEPPPP
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Anon posted this in the celeb thread.
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What's everyone's thoughts on this?http://kpopkfans.blogspot.com/2019/01/rankings-of-most-viewed-artists-on.html
Dying @ most of BP's list being borderline developing countries. Explains a lot.Also, IIndonesia fell for the kpop meme HARD, damn.
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baekhyun calling out saesangs yet again and the conclusion is that companies are literally just sitting there doing fuck all(even though "anti" fans who talk shit about idols appearances or lack of stage presence are getting sued left and right) while these "high profile saesang" fans are breaking in to their homes, and committing acts that in any actual developed country, would be considered an arrestable offense.
trans: “Is it okay to sell other people’s information like this?”
"Many accounts on Twitter and other social media sites offer to sell the dorm addresses, car numbers, ID photos, and photographs of past girlfriends of idols. To one such post that stated, “I am selling information about EXO,” which included information about their addresses and favorite bars/restaurants, Baekhyun used his personal Twitter account to directly reply.
On January 5, he wrote simply, “Is it okay to sell other people’s information like this?” As Baekhyun’s reply gained attention, the original post was deleted.
On the CBS radio show “Kim Hyun Jung’s News Show,” cultural critic Kim Sung Soo said that a legal response from the agency to these kinds of information peddlers might be difficult.
“If you catch the seller, then the buyers also become criminal,” he said. “However, those buyers are considered to be ‘fans.’ If you make too strong of a legal response, it could have effects beyond what the agency wants. The promotion period for an idol is quite short. If the contract is seven years, then the agency invests for four years and reaps the rewards for three. To the agency, this isn’t worth the risk.”
The critic continued, “It was originally the agencies who would encourage the leak of information such as, ‘Certain idols will be at this concert or this broadcast company.’ One might say that the first methods by which fandoms became victim to criminals were taught by the agencies themselves.”
However, some kind of response appears necessary as the selling of personal information can lead to emotional and material damage."
Tl;Dr KPOP companies are literally sucking the dick of dangerous kpop fans and refusing to pursue them when they threaten and stalk idols, leak their personal information, steal their stuff and harass family members, on PURPOSE, because they have money and will make them a profit. This is so fucking sick.
I think only Exo, the members that left Exo, Cheng Xiao, and Victoria are relevant in China right now.
China is making their own idol groups now with Rocket Girls and Nine Percent, and those groups are currently sensations over there. The government isn't going to let new gen K-pop groups take over there and farm easy Chinese money because they want to stomp on Korea entirely over the THAAD issue. It's why groups with Chinese members benefit, because they can just send the Chinese member to do solo work.
I don't think China is a major contributor to YouTube views, even if they were allowed to use YouTube freely.
You know I used to think it's because they can use her to self-insert but you don't see this level of retardation with fans of other foreign idols (like american or japanese for example). I don't know a lot about the culture there so maybe some of the perma-butthurt lisa stans itt can take a break from calling the other members ugly whores on instagram and explain to me this weird obsession they have with kpop? Is this behaviour widely accepted in SEA? Is there no general pushback like we have in the west (cultural appropriation discourse etc)? That could explain why they think everyone needs to hear about how she and whatever male idol she was standing next to blinked at the same time means they are totally getting married.>>351109
I still think that Rose sounds like an even worse Bom (just tonality-wise. Even with her bananis and awoacaidis-esque wobble voice she's still at least able to somewhat connect her phrases LMFAO) but she does seem like the chillest of the bunch.
I heard that song on the radio randomly and actually physically jerked at the sound of Jisoo's voice. YG are absolute jerks for making that girl's throat go through this, she should've never debuted as a singer and gone straight into acting wtf
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how did woozi become an idol? what’s his function within the group besides making the rest of svt look good (save for maybe s.coups) and seem taller?
this is just unfortunate>>351109
agreed about rosé. i also find her to be the prettiest member of bp but i suppose that’s subjective.
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s.coups looks like the hunchback of notre dame. i think woozi isn't that bad in comparison.
i dont think he's ugly or anything but iirc his whole appeal is that hes a tiny Uwu kitten child that needs to be protected
or some shit its been years since ive seen anybody even talk about that group
these girls are literally triggering
each other to become the spookiest skeleton without destroying their own faces lmao
although i cant compare s.coups to the hunchback i still question myself why he was even the visual of the group (not really a fan but my friend is) its like im talking to a time bomb whenever she gushes over them (svt) and im a supportive friend but idk if one joke coming out from my mouth would lead to unsavory consequences…
she thinks sekwan and vernon are a couple or something, watching those theory vids on youtube and etc.
The video of V/Rosé.
There’s something about BP in particular that just as their fans obsessively using their ~unnies~ as self-inserts and furiously shipping them with all their boy group biases. I guess it’s the ~badass girl power totally not like other girls~ schtick.
this makes me think that these stans are asocial and inexperienced as fuck so they just interpret any basic human interaction as a sign of being deeply in love. these male idols who get shipped so often are usually the ones who have the most amount of psycho fans, if you listen to them, jungkook is dating v, jimin, lisa, rose, iu, everyone in twice, the ceo of bighit, the first lady of south korea, your grandpa, everyone at the same time.
>>351579>these stans are asocial and inexperienced as fuck
oh absolutely. most of these delusional shippers are young girls living under sharia law from conservative backgrounds who have extremely distorted views on human relationships. stuff like shipping and the things that come along with it (like fanfiction etc) are used to explore their sexual desires free from rejection. the biggest issue i see with that though is that most of them only interact with like-minded individuals and this hugbox environment breeds stupidity and paraphilia and does not prepare one for real life in the slightest.
i mean i kind of get it, it feels nice to bond over things with people you're passionate about, but when your entire free time consists of imagining the relationship of two people, something isn't right.
at least keep it secret ffs. when did we all stop bullying these perverts and allowed them to break the fourth wall? i remember when i was into supernatural and was cringing at the crazy shippers (most of whom were middle-aged women btw!) talking to the actors about their ships but that was about fictional characters… this is an entirely different layer of crazy. further evidence that even their fans don't see idols as humans.
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She used to be pretty and confident when she debuted, all that criticism over her weight must've gotten to her so much that it destroyed her self-esteem. Very common and very sad in Kpop.
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Twice fans on r/kpop continue to believe that Twice isn't overworked to death. In the thread a lot of them are actually wishing Twice would get some rest….then you get people like pic related insisting they're fine and two vacation days are more than enough
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Joy was nearly 18 when RV debuted but the change in her face from then to now makes it seem like she was about 14 during Happiness, her face just looks super young to me in old photos
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i know it's been years and this song is a dead meme at this point but i really don't understand why sm debuted exo with this song
Never forget the teaser.
The live version is okay, though.
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Lucifer was such a good song but SM ruined it by giving the members those tragic edgelord hairstyles, Key in particular. They were on some potent drugs during the early 2010s
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key almost always looks like shit tbh and hes not ugly, he just gets shitty styling constantly
The leaked demo legit made me unstan and the final version was somehow even worse.
(Also their actual debut song was even bigger of a meme with Kai's screamo stint)
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Imagine taking this photo and thinking "Yes, this looks good. I want to share this with the world."
Did I say it was weird?
I said it was ugly, anon. Which it definitely is.
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Idk if it's 100% true but apparently new Bighit's group is named TXT? I thought BTS was an unfortunate name but this one is weirderhttps://twitter.com/amourjeon/status/1083018472827830273?s=19
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So Lay is going to the Grammy Awards as a rep of some Chinese sponsor. I've already seen salty armies crying about how he doesn't deserve it because they're butthurt that BTS isn't invitedhttps://www.soompi.com/article/1290225wpp/exos-lay-attend-61st-grammy-awards
Source? r/p48 are talking about her joining pledis or mystic ent.
She was my favourite trainee and I want to see her thrive but >>352020
is right. The traditional k-idol scene would eat her alive. Her youtube covers are cute, she'd make a good solo indie artist.
>>352134>still better than all of BTS combined
Not really. He looks about on par with younger jimin or jin. Better than jhope and ratmon but that isn't saying much. 6.5/10.
Can't bighit afford to not have uglies in their groups at this point? Where's that bts money going?
That's what I was thinking. I saw pictures of what everyone thought was bh trainees and it looked like a group of 10-13yos.
Honestly though, why debut boys that young? You'll have to put they're career on hiatus so they can do their military service. Why not just send them in when they turn 20 and debut a bunch of guys in they're early 20s?
Is this thread pro plastic surgery now?
I was kinda glad to see >>352124
because he doesn't look like he has gone under the knife.
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why is this still a thing in 2019
>>352161>bts caters to elementary school aged girls
What? You're just making up shit now. BTS started out with high school/college aged foreigners as their main audience that grew up with them like any other kpop group. They are extremely popular now though so naturally little kids would know them.
If you want to see a group blatantly aiming for little girls it's NCT Dream.
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it's because of not sleeping, sure
Doesn't change the fact that the ones that kept them fed in the beginning were at least teenaged foreigners and those were catered to then. If anything their concept change was borderline aimed at pedos.
But I get what you're saying.
Saying "netizens" dragging them back then is a bit dumb though, those were just butthurt exo-ls and look how exo is getting trashed now lmfao. How times have changed.
You're looking for >>301262
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autism is already happening
It's scary to see how many people feel they have this deep connection to BTS, it feels like a one-sided relationship, but I guess that goes hand in hand with the "potential boyfriend" act of the industry.
At the same time, out of spite, I hope this group surpasses them. Perhaps then their stans will sit down and stop relentlessly harassing people as often because they're ~ the top kpop group ~.
also whats with the 'oh i know im so horrible for saying this im so sorry' attitude? it comes off as so pathetic, id have more respect for her admittedly pretty stupid opinion if she wasn't so snivelling about it
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I knew this was gonna happen. I love it.
Honesty they might since they're riding BTS's coat tails, BTS is about to have enlist, and if the teaser is anything to go by, they won't have tacky cheap-looking MVs like BTS does.
I imagine once this new group gains traction, BigHit is just going to dump BTS sort of like they did with that one solo artist they have (had?) that they never promote or talk about.
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honestly she looks like a cross between the two ugly girls from apink, and we see how they turned out so yeah im sure extensive plastic surgery is in her future
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Don't know how true this is, but I wouldn't put it past YG to make this happen.http://www.agcwebpages.com/BLINDITEMS/2019/JAN.html
But isn't her family rich/influential?
Wouldn't it be better to sell off idols from nobody families?
Unless that involves some weird bribe about exposing tax evading or some other felony considering how corrupt rich Koreans are.
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She's not the most hideous person ever, but she's no beauty and definitely not by Korea's standards
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Also this is her current (and final) 48g profile picture kek
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saw this and thought of you guys lmao
i keep pronouncing txt as 'text' in my head and it's actually pissing me off.
txt is probably just gonna be BTS part 2 since bighit figured out you can milk the shit out of tumblr sad girls.>>352228
this is the milk i've been waiting for. can't wait for armies to show their true colors about how replaceable BTS actually is.
I feel like the concept of theories and figuring out clues and hints could be cool but it's never done well, always just some tripe "they were dead the whole time" bs that they just throw together last minute.
Like honestly bighit wouldn't have done this long drawn out story line if fan hadn't thought made the dumb theories up in the first place.
she needs to go to hyoyeons surgeon
should be fine after a nosejob and hopefully she'll stop after that
I noticed that Japanese idols are way more natural and imperfect. If you look at the AKB girls, you will see many crooked teeth, big noses, wide faces, monolids, and even a fuller weight. Basically everything that in Korea would have them sent to the plastic surgeon years before debut. Some are even downright ugly, but it's better to be naturally ugly than PS botched ugly.
I think it's a bad idea for Japanese idols to try to debut in Korea. They could stay in Japan, where at least their companies wouldn't send them to dismantle their faces and starve while being also objects of fetishization/racism by Korean fans…>>352308
…AKB does give their idols some godawful styling, though. Their headshots always manage to make even the prettiest girls look bland at best.
Japanese idols are more appreciated for their personalities; they look like the girls-next-door that the average male fan might have a chance with if they knew them IRL. Very pretty girls probably don't even pass audition rounds because they might be too unreachable of a fantasy.
>AKB does give their idols some godawful styling
It was a shock to see some of the AKB idols with Kpop styling on PD48. Murase Sae in particular, so pretty.
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They do have very pretty girls too. Pic related even tried to get into Produce48 (she didn't pass, good for her)
But yes, being imperfect is okay in Japan, they're not nearly as obsessed with PS as Korea
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>>352327>AKB does give their idols some godawful styling>It was a shock to see some of the AKB idols with Kpop styling on PD48. Murase Sae in particular, so pretty.
Holy shit you guys are right. Tacky48 is really holding down the potential of this girl.
Though not to make this too off-topic since this is a Kpop critical thread, AKB idols still get a way better treatment than their Korean counterparts.
and dont forget the forced sexualiztion japanese girls face from a young age thats nowhere near as subtle in japan as it is in korea
theres a reason idols who look and act 13 years old even into their 30s take up softcore, if not full on JAV after they leave the groups
hell, they're already doing bikini photobooks before they're even in their late teens
Right, but she went batshit and made that decision herself.
She's a first generation member and is still in the group, so AKB is probably all she thought she could do, and just wanted to keep her job.
Sashihara Rino's ex-bf came to the press and described the weird sex they had and all the inter-group rules she broke and her punishment was being moved to a sister group, which made her even more famous.>>352357
is some crazy bitch who leaked another member's address to her own (probably) boyfriend and had him gang up on her for telling management about their relationship.
AKB is fucked up but these weird clickbait events are considered weird even within the system. Sage for sperging.
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K-pop keeps their shit disguised better, that's all.
Wonyoung, who is called "giant baby", is fourteen years old and performed "Side to Side" on Produce 48. Pic related is the thumbnail from a fancam on youtube. She was elected by viewers as their number one trainee.
She never had a standout moment in vocals or dance, like Nako hitting the high note in Love Whisper, so why do you think she was so popular?
Implying that K-pop doesn't have a pedo problem is laughable.
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I agree, but "older" as in "more womanly" (as opposed to looking like a child). Her skin is 100% the one of a young person, but her bone structure is more mature looking.
For example, this is her at 18 years old.
Good for her that she didn't debut in Korea, it would've been awful to see that perfectly fine face ruined with jaw shave, cheek fillers, and whatever else they do
>inb4 someone says "Stop talking about Japanese idols!!"
I think it's interesting to talk about the differences between the Japanese and Korean idol industries, and if we took it to the Jpop Critical someone would say "Take it to the Kpop Critical" either way
kpop idols are less “idol”ish to me. the term seems to go to anyone who isn’t just a k-hiphop artist, isn’t in a band, or doesn’t just sing OSTs - and even then some of them are considered idols. imo in jpop “idol” usually goes for people whose music really isn’t the important part of what they do, the important part is the girl/boyfriend image, photobooks, handshakes, the general idol image. in kpop it seems like a much broader term, i think some japanese female solo artists fit the idol definition in korea better than they do in japan
it means what’s counted as idol music is better because more people actually care about making a decent product, and it means “jpop vs kpop idols 2017 part 12” videos on youtube make the korean side look way better, but also can make people whose job it is to smile and make finger hearts seem like more credible artists than they are when they’re really still just there to make middle school girls feel like they have a boyfriend
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She really just looks old-old now, I'm sure the Korean styling could have done her great favors but yeah
What do you mean by "international interest"?
Didn't NCT perform in America for some Disney anniversary TV program? That's significant "international interest", even if it's not the main goal of the group.
Most international outlets are picking TXT up as "BTS' little brother group" to generate clicks, not because they actually give a shit about a new Korean boy group.
If the west can ever generate another One Direction, that same "interest" is gonna go there. I don't have a team either, but I can tell it's not genuine engagement.
even so you can already tell that due to being a new bg connected to BTS, TXT are gonna pick up way more international interest than NCT and most Kpop groups combined
It doesn't rlly matter since all press is good press in America. And besides that, I saw a rumor going around that TXT will have English speaking members so… Big Hit's intention for TXT is probably exactly this:
They'll be "BTS' little brothers" until BTS enlist…Then all eyes will focus TXT, including Western audiences who'll be brainwashed to like em.
I highly doubt that after seeing the success of BTS in America that Bighit would stay in Korea when they could attempt to make an even more successful group with actual talent and visuals this time around.
TXT first introduction getting hundreds of thousands likes on twitter, millions of views on yt, multiple threads on r/kpop
people are excited, tho BH can screw initial hype with shitty song, international fandom has low tolerance of ballads and infantile crap
NCT concept is super unfriendly to newcomers and casual fans, the more guys they add the less people will bother to check the group out
YG's reality show seems unpopular, with not much discussion or line-up excitement
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The nationalist propaganda jumped out
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some of the memes armys have been making for txt are actually autistic…
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jfc they need to chill. i kinda feel bad for this new group now as they're under a lot of pressure and have crazy anties already.
yeah, as if bighit's not going to overwork them to death just like your precious babies.
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goddamn, he looks like s.coup's cousin. we can add him to the foot-lookin/hunchback of seoul family.
and they're still going to milk it with txt.>BTS did this for them ~!!!!! they worked and struggled for this, blood sweat & tears !!11!! y'all best know !
they act as if every kpop company doesn't start like this..
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can’t wait for the shatmys who’ve been harassing everyone who doesn’t suck bts’ toes to get grilled alive by even more psychotic stans. i’ll bring s’mores.
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i had to google this and holy fuck you’re righti still find him handsome for the most part tho
oh yikes @ that wonky ass nostril
i still remember when exo debuted and he got the 'jin treatment' from fans where they were aware he was pretty useless and not that good looking yet they kept hyping him up
Nah, I agree. Sometimes they even played live, the instruments were actually plugged in. What other GG has ever done this?
I know about Day6 (they're with JYP too) but they're all men. A female band would be cool.
Yep it's true and it's the one from the video teaser if I'm not mistaken.
Expect a lot of "my baby boi" followed by degenerated rape fics as soon as he turns 17.
The one from the teaser is apparently the leader and he was bown in 1999, IIRC.
The fact that the leader is just 19 says a lot, though.
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Every time i see a ‘sexy dance’ from idols part of me wants to die
In my limited knowledge, it seems more common than in some other Asian countries. Perhaps the makeup and skincare obsessions are actually making it worse? Like >>352946
Acne's pretty common everywhere.
It might be a bit more pronounced in idols because many of them are young, they wear a lot of make-up on a daily basis, and their diets generally aren't very healthy.
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a lil nit-picky maybe but i love how bighit doesn’t even bother having english in their profile or tweets nor bother to offer translations when intl fans are the reason the korean public even cares about them.
like i get xenophobia and nationalism is their brand these days but isn’t it kind of stupid from a business standpoint?
ofc their braindead intl fans think the english language is oppressive and their oppars and their company are totally woke for not ~caving~ to the ebul west though
they’ve done it a lot with nct though? all their vlives and nct daily vids have english subs, don’t know about other sm groups but it seems strange they would only offer it for one group. then again nct is supposed to have a ~worldwide~ appeal.
mm i always see edward in my youtube recommendations and something about him just irks me. especially when he has male guests, it feels like he crosses some boundaries and comes onto very obvious straight guys. i could just b looking too deep into it.
also his makeup sucks lol
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I just learnt Zico has his mom tattoed on his fucking chest.
Like what the fuck.
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I just learnt Zico has his mom tattoed on his fucking chest.
Like what the fuck.
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them being an obvious troll isn’t the joke, it’s the fact that hordes of armys rush to report them over something so ridiculous while they ignore it when other armys attack people for not kissing their oppars asses.
these ~expose posts~ had a ton of likes indicating many armys believed them.
i read someone say imagine fucking zico and having the tattoo of his mother looking right at you the entire time
i can't fucking stop thinking about that anytime i see that tattoo
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I wouldn't have guessed this was Nichkhun if it wasn't stated so. He still looked like himself in the MV but it's obvious that the company is trying to give him a new uwu cute boy image just to cater to young audiences (and failed miserably at that). Older idols should just act and look their age cause it's so fucking embarassing to see them getting morphed into some totally random young dudes/girls, I mean I knew how they looked like in their heydays so they ain't fooling anyone.
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I cannot get over how bland he looks now. He had a interesting blend of masculine and feminine features before, now he looks like any ol Korean dude
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This is just tragic.
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people are saying the reptile got an actual tattoo since there's been numerous amounts of evidence of it having been there for a while. if it is real it's fucking ugly, like nevermind what?
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Taeyang has this thing tattoed on his chest. Honestly I don't know much about this matter but Korea's tattoo artists seem quite shitty in general.
I thought that was fake.
Why would anyone get an ugly tattoo like that
I thought that was fake.
Why would anyone get an ugly tattoo like that
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koreaboos.. just stop
this is obviously a joke.
anyone know if that "Adorable Representative M.C. for Youth. That is our name. And we should be proud of it." thing that turned into a copypasta was a joke though?
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Second txt member revealed
at least his lips don't look like a prolapsed asshole like Jin's do
but honestly his visuals are basic as hell, there are at least ten kpop boys who look exactly like him
Honestly way better than Jimin's tragic singing. Yeonjun sounds like Dean lmao
I'm pretty sure they're picking lookalikes with far more talent
I hate to say this but BTS 2.0 is even blander than BTS.
At least their name is less cringey. But it's K-pop so…yeah.
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He seems to look like Jungkook from certain angles too. Yeonjun has some distinctive features at least but this guy is the most boring they could get
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LMAO holy shit Koreans are crying in the comments trying to tell SEA and international fans Koreans aren't really like that on an article about Lisa overtaking Taeyeon on Instagramhttp://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2019/01/lisa-is-1-most-followed-female-k-pop.html
No bitch, any race (that isn't White- feel inferior / Japanese - cry victim) that has run into Koreans know how racist and self-hating you are
Fuck I kinda wish I had the patience to make a website like Nate, retards are always infighting w/ click-bate and the money would fly in like no tomorrow.
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the non-korean one is also the most popular one, weep racists
i remember some anon mentioning how we could make a lot of money if this thread was a youtube channel lol. i lowkey want to make money off of clickbaiting kpop fans but they would find a way to dox me, they are crazy
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It's funny to see other commentators going in on each other
The main reason is a need to feel superior to someone. China is richer than Korea will ever be and Japan has the Western validation Korea craves, but countries like Thailand, Indonesia or Malaysia are both poorer than Korea and don't really have any status or prestige with the West.
A lot of Koreans have an enormous national inferiority complex, despite their rampant xenophobia. Telling themselves that at least they're not SEA makes them feel better.
at first i thought that they are playing it safe by going for the "boy/girl next door" look. basic looking idols probably make the fans believe that they have a chance with them because they look plebeian. i think that was part of one direction's success, they (except zayn) looked like average boys and had flaws.
but then i realized that it doesn't explain the insane surgeries and cosmetic procedures most idols go through. maybe the members look insanely beautiful in korea? i honestly have no idea.
why do so many companies go for the uwu soft and rather feminine look when it comes to male idols? as many farmers have pointed out previously; jhope literally looks like a 50 year old aunt and taehyung is styled like a grandmother. why don't they dress them up in more masculine clothing?
>>353849>why don't they dress them up in more masculine clothing?
most of their fans are still very young girls, so having them looking too masculine or "grown up" could be intimidating or even alienating for them.
Soft boys look manly enough that the fans can project and explore their emerging sexuality on them, but not too manly that would make them scary looking or feel too pedo in fan events.
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his face was fuller before though. his cheekbones "pop" more now.
Lbr, no one itt gives a shit about that either. It's the same reason why people like rap music despite all the awful shit most rappers say and do, jpop, western pop, hollywood shit, porn,
I hope they don't make him go under the knife anymore, and ruin what looks he has left. And hopefully since both jhope and rat put out mixtapes, he'll put out another mixtape.>>353910
It seems like he likes the fame but hates not having the freedom to do what he wants. In one interview he was talking about how he made the beat or produced fake love and really liked and was super proud of it but then they changed everything and he seemed bitter it.
I remember them saying that every song BTS puts out has to go through RM first. Makes sense tho considering he is a control freak that thinks he's ~moar artistic and enlightened~ than the rest of the group.
The more control they give this guy, the more the quality of their music dies. I miss Suga's edgy hiphop beats, they were leagues ahead of the fake woke SJW crap Rat's guiding BTS to. While I do prefer his rapping to Suga's, his songwriting and production is killing any potential they may have.
America's supposedly 'taking notice' of Kpop and their massive fanbase. Everybody tryna get that money quick before it dries out.
2020 will def be the year Kpop becomes over-saturated and Booooring
After this I wonder what's next? Kpop's popularity has increased post Gangnam style but eventually it's going to hit the trough because it's already on decline, especially since of gg like SNSD, T-ara, Sistar, WW, and girls day disbanded.
Then the older Bgs will inenvitably sign up to the army so more of the more memorable kpop groups are gone, leaving the bland and basic newer kpop groups who have to break their ass to comeback in less than 4 or so months so they're remembered by kpop stans who have the attention span of a goldfish. And if kpop in general switches to a solo or band era because that's what the korean GP wants I think intl fans will quietly drop, most of them don't care for it too much.
Also does anyone think there will be another asian trend after this? Something tells me it would be more malicious than the previous.
Oh my fucking god kill me now with this cancerous trifecta
late 90s early 20s- Jpop
late 20s early 2010s- Kpop
late 2010s -? - Cpop
and what's even worse is that there's a billion fuckton of Chinese ready to flash their Sino-nationalism to the world. Fuck.
why do you think bollywood is big? (billions of indians)
Since China has been having a steady and booming economy compared to the western world (with a billion+ of "unify for Communist Party or die" people) and they're are becoming ever powerful by the day with their influence, also the fact that American Hollywood has been trying to win the Chinese I can just tell that it's only a matter of time.
Cpop in particular coming into fruition is a concept I don't see happening easily. Korean can get nationalistic and xenophobic but not to the point of being to subborn to call over American, european, and Japanese producers/dancers/etc. to collab and get the group a hit. The music industry that the aforementioned producers come from are huge and they worked on many hit songs.
For ex.: Dumb dumb, Mr. Taxi, 4 walls (as seen in the link above), electric shock, growl, Gee and Ice cream cake to name a few.
Even if all Koreans produced the song they often take or copy samples from existing american songs or the western and jpop influence is present.
Most Cpop i've seen has bland ballads that are a bore to listen to.
I also know people aren't feeling Hiphop/rap here but it because of whats in the content but it is still an imporant part of both,Kpop (a rap member is almost mandatory know), and music in general.
Doing that also probably allienated a lot of foreign producers who atleast worked on a song that had at least one rap verse.
China has a habit of copying and putting no actual talent into these groups/songs. So they aren't aren't getting their very own Cpop version of Gee until they broaden their horizons or get actual talent.
But if they actually decide to wisen up, I could see Cpop and it's potention fandom being die diehard. Which I dread because China has more ignorance than even Korea.
it's still SO creepy to me that bighit is so big on making jungkook look like jailbait and act like it then turn around and act sexual whilst wearing tight clothes and showing off his body
and the fact that jungkook himself confessed that on tape and people acted like 'lol funny our baby boy thinks he's grown' armies and their breast feeding kink smh
why are you typing like an autist?
my predictions for BTS in a few years after disbandment:>jungkook middling-successful solo artist, swole but not an alpha, he doesnt have the personality for it. still wont have fucked IU>V probably married young with like 3 babies>RM touring schools talking about following your dreams, dating western girl who is not black but armys say she has 0.001% afro blood so RM is a woke legend who loves strong female poc>Suga gets fat and bangs hookers>Jin also married with kids
as for jhope i have no idea, cant even think of anything funny to predict about him
jimins all over the place now with all these yes men around him, all the money and the pussy
when bts falls apart, the numbers dwindle and people move on to newer things he'll probably lose it since his entire self esteem is based on fans just like jungkook. tho jungkook will probably feel slightly liberated post breakup with not as many fans around to bug him cause he wants to get tattoos, piercings, and be more edgy than flowerboy in reality
And for the 2 members that end up getting girls knocked up will do it a few months into a new relationship, have shotgun weddings, and at least one will try to exploit their babies. Probably not primetime exploitation like Return of Superman, but another one of those celebrities raising kid shows that air on less popular channels kek but probably wont get divorced and will likely get lraised my k-netizens because “omg he’s such a good dad!!!! He plays with his kids and actually tried to discipline him that one episodeeeeee” like they all do when so average ass dad like Ham Sammington or rando soccer players go on air with his kids.
The other ends in a divorce after a year of a year of exposure and lots of press coverage on their #goalzzzzz relationship and ‘cute’ baby.
This is basically what its like when a K-celeb gets pregnant or makes an oopsy baby. There is no ‘settling down’, they’ve always got to find a way to exploit the situation. Its like the Korean equivalent of Japanese celebs becoming an annoying blog moms when they have shotgun marriage babies and get divorced a few years later.
Nah, considering how filthy rich Jin's family, and now him too, and how he knows he's not really talented he'll probably be just fine.
Now V, I'm sure he'll get a lot of cheating/assault/domestic violence scandals after BTS considering his behavior and how inflated his ego looks.
While popularity wise he'll do fine solo, I don't think he could take the pressure.
He throws pity party tantrums at every little mistake, and he can't sing more than 5 lines without his voice cracking. There's no way he'd make it through a concert by himself.
While popularity wise he'll do fine solo, I don't think he could take the pressure.
He throws pity party tantrums at every little mistake, and he can't sing more than 5 lines without his voice cracking. There's no way he'd make it through a concert by himself.
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bitch baby can't even sing without crying
jimin isn't even michelle lbr
his singing won't ever deliver you from evil
Honestly, the rise of BTS has actually made me appreciate Big Bang as the lesser of two evils. Now I see that they might be crazy overhyped and annoyingly media played as 'artistes', but at least they had SOME good music and a few members with charisma. Can't say the same for BTS.
And I think they have different enough demographics that it's not true BTS have filled their spot in GD's absence. New kpop fans don't gravitate towards groups who debuted in the mid 2000s no matter how popular they are.
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Kpop. Not even once.
i wouldn't even mind if it were funny, but most of the posts are made by spastic ARMY children who are SoO oVeR iT and criticize all the wrong things >>354045>it's very noticeable that you get your ideas of who they are from this thread
100% on point
I‘ve seen this happen to literally every ~reaction channel~ lmao. Speaking of which, does anybody know of that fat neckbearded "producer"? He pisses me off so much, not only with his pseudo-professional meme but also because apparenrly he identifies as trans. I remember him constantly making sexual remarks on twitter and livestreams despite mostly kids watching him.. what a fucking degenerate. Reminds me of that music producer who was popular at one point but got caught trying to sext with a minor.>>354126
It's so bad. I just wish these two or three armyfags that always shit up the threads would take this back to their twitter timeline. Like, this is straight up stanspeak at some times.
very different. i watch a lot of variety and most stuff that gets posted here by obvious armyfags is false info or stuff taken way out of context. they are pretty well mannered, average boys and socially awkward and cringy at most
V isn't this weird future cult leader guy, he's in fact very average and i'd say he's dandy - like dandelion from the witcher. jungkook is a bit nervous and competitive. RM is well spoken, but he's awkward and seems to have the most problem fitting in, seems like he would like to be left alone. jin seems nice. jhope seems depressed and totally insecure. suga seems like a regular pisces to me, he acts like hot shit when he's on a roll, but becomes a depressed wreck when he slips and comes off as awkward. this is how i see them
i think their weight loss is by far most problematic
aspect of this bg, aside from the music being absolute shite
im neither, i dont listen to bts or believe in horoscope. just used the trope. i am retarded for watching variety tho
(got 505 before, hope this doesnt get posted 3x)
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Ugh yes, I usually wouldn't mind nor whine about it but they remind me of those retards from VC forum with their "personality reading" and stuff. Not the same shit but similar, you know what I mean (pic related)
About 10 years ago, Bollywood was America's token "cool" ethnic culture because of Aishwarya Rai and Shah Rukh Khan's movies doing well. Lots of Hollywood stars did cameos in Bollywood movies, came to Bollywood award shows, did commercials for Indian brands, etc. Aishwarya was in a shitty Pink Panther movie too.
Now Bollywood is still very much around and making tons of money, but it's not the trend it once was in the West. I expect Kpop will steadily lose its' trend status too.
>Speaking of which, does anybody know of that fat neckbearded "producer"?
These reaction channels get money off of kpop stans desperation and need to be validated. Just like most of those so doctors on reality TV aren't actual ones, he probably barely fits the definition of one.
Kpop fans are very gullible and easy to make money off of if you validate their favs.
JREKML and BRISxLIFE get gifts and prepaid tickets to BTS concert for example.
Are you talking about this post >>354149
anon? If yes, then I agree
yeah, i watched problematic
men and liked him.
also loved kim jiseok in there asfdfdg, but i don't want to spiral out of control and start watching kdramas too
JREKML is so gross omg
i remember he used lie about his ethnicity and title his videos shit like 'half filipino half korean cute sexy boy watches video' like what in the redtube hell?
>>354149>V isn't this weird future cult leader guy, he's in fact very average and i'd say he's dandy - like dandelion from the witcher.
how would you explain his misogyny, pulling that girl by the hair to the point jin had to intervene and casually telling female fans to cover up and not wear revealing clothes? telling that lady to give up her dreams and become a housewife? even if he’s not clinically retarded like he appears itt i can’t imagine any way to excuse any of those things and the pulling the girl by the hair is by no means “average”. not to mention how he went off on a fan on vlive for daring to call him taehyung; i haven’t even seen jin act that superior/rude and being vain is basically part of his ~brand~ at this point.
if armys are gonna come whiteknighting you may as well address the weird shit bts has done beyond ~u don’t know them like i do uwu~.
Jin and Jhope seem like the least assholey ones to me but maybe it's because they don't even get the screentime to be an asshole, I don't know. The thing that bothered me about Jin was him getting triggered
over being criticized by someone younger, but compared to the others it's okay I guess. Jungkook also seems harmless but his persona is annoying as fuck and makes it hard to take him seriously
>>354202>how would you explain his misogyny, pulling that girl by the hair
i wouldn't, i don't want or need to defend actions like this or jimin wearing the bomb t-shirt. my point was that he isn't this special cult leader guy. calling him average isn't really a compliment
>telling that lady to give up her dreams and become a housewife
now this is exactly what i'm talking about, since this was taken out of context. it happened on a show where they bring in people with problems and their family that cant deal with them. it was about a 40-50yo lady that wanted to start a rap career at that age because she feel for Zico (:D), while leeching of her mom and not knowing how to rap. her mom wanted her to try and get a guy, but the woman said she didnt have time for guys because of her rap career. the audience and celebrity guests are then asked what should she do; pursue her career or get married and they have to cast a vote. and in this context he said it's better to get married and so did everyone else
i haven't heard of the last incident, but please stop calling me an army because youre hurting my feefees
If that white kid had gone to Korea and talked about wanting to beat people up for not knowing the obscurities of American culture and not acting like Americans do, people would lose their shit.
But if oppa goes to America and expects American children to start acting like Koreans then it's fine uwu.
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>>354210>If you think that's bad, you'll love the episode of American Hustle Life where Jimin says he wants to hit a preteen American boy because the kid didn't address him using the customs of Korean age hierarchy.
this was what made me realize what a vile sack of shit that gremlin is. ofc moronic ratmys thought it was totes woke and savage bc the kid happened to be white and i’ve never seen a kpop fan talk about it negatively outside of these threads. it was the 14yos own fault for trying to help and bc he asked if jimin and jungkook were related he was totally an evil racist bigot who deserved to be met with threats of violence from a grown ass man. to this day it still makes my blood boil just thinking about it.
and since then he’s been a gift that keeps on giving by being racist and xenophobic left right and center and topping it all off by celebrating one of the most devastating war crimes in modern time.
I would say that v is probs also the least liked among themselves
suga blatantly can't get along with him, jin can't stand him and talks to him likes he's a dumb kid (age hierarchy aside), jhope and rm seem to tolerate him for the sake of bts' image
You're all just talking in circles at this point. No one cares about how you interpret their personalities. Give it a rest. >>354256
IA, Bollywood being called "cool" is a reach. For non-Indians/South asians this is an extreme niche product whereas japanese (or korean) culture is attractive to a broader spectrum of nationalities.
I remember looking into C-pop when I was kid, since I was into Kpop stars like BoA and Jpop stars like Ayu/Koda Kumi, I ended up coming across Jolin Tsai and I really wanted to like her but chinese media content was/is so hard to find on western platforms. There were a few other c-pop acts who I tried to get into, but again there was nowhere online where I could really engage with the entertainment.
Nowadays, especially with the Huawei technology controversy, western culture and chinese culture have become so oppositional towards each other, and there are so many political aspects at play, that there's no way in hell China would have success exporting their entertainment, since the entire world is wary of Chinese government involvement in literally everything, and no one's happy about the fact that they are world leaders in technological advancements. Also human rights and labour laws in China is a top concern within international relations, if westerners were to become supporters of Chinese celebrities, there would be constant controversy and backlash related to the rights of performers, which would overshadow any financial benefits of cultural exports for China.
Kpop is well-received by westerners because South Korea has a long history of being influenced by the American occupation. Koreans loved Bob Dylan-types and classic rock to the point that the government had music imports banned. When the ban was lifted, America was into 90s Hip Hop, so you had Seo Taiji & Boys that jumped on that gimmick and that was the birth of kpop. Since then, western producers have actually contributed significantly to the industry, which works for everyone, since the music sells both at home and abroad. China will never have that type of relationship and cultural overlap with America.
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His YouTube profile, it's fucking ridiculous.
I've watched a bunch of his videos over the last year or so and never once heard him reference anything feminism/lgbt/social justice related so this is really out of the blue.
So.. like.. is he gonna.. actually transition? or does he think a short disclaimer is all it takes? I'm not even a terf but… what the fuck
I've watched a bunch of his videos over the last year or so and never once heard him reference anything feminism/lgbt/social justice related so this is really out of the blue.
So.. like.. is he gonna.. actually transition? or does he think a short disclaimer is all it takes? I'm not even a terf but… what the fuck
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Lol he pisses me off too. I guess he's not a bad director, but what's the point of him reviewing music videos if he mostly just says what we already see? "ooh this light is really well done" like yeah, we know. I talked about him on a previous thread because he was sperging on Twitter about some selca controversy. I used to follow him when I got into kpop and watched some reactions and he was constantly doing lives every day multiple times to watch movies with his followers and stuff like that. It was so cringy and pathetic.
He also dyed his hair pink once and it looked terrible. A lot of other reactors told him how "beautiful" he was kek kpop fans are so "positive" and sugary all the time, it just reads as fake to me.
Another one I hate is BRISxLIFE, he's so fucking obnoxious and when he started doing reactions he capitalized on it by including "BLACK GUY watches" on titles for views. I guess kpop fans feel validated if a black guy says his oppa raps well.
I hate how JREKML got so much clout by simply watching kpop videos. Dude gets free tickets, travels and meets idols. Like fuck off, youtubers get so much money for doing literally nothing. I hope reactions are banned in the future from Youtube.
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Lol this bearded potato is a female??
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More side effects of Kpop trash fashion kek
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>>354278>if you don't indulge my autism for the 14th thread in a row you're a stinky army>>354282
Finally found the thread that exposed him. He's gross. https://twitter.com/nastyshitlol/status/931400633726455808?s=21
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Tbh we complain about everything you do because you're annoying and we want you to leave. Former armies retain most of the autism.
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WTF lol I didn't know he had so many issues. He's clearly the type to share very intimate details of his life online kek I wish he had a thread because he tries to present himself all professional but he's clearly a full on sperg. I'm sure farmers could find a lot of dirt on him.
Dezzy March is another reactor that went full cringe. He was the typical black reactor trying to make money online and he turned into a full on kpop stan retard. He now tweets like a gay guy calling everyone Queen, saying he's sexy all the time or tweeting "I love you guys, you're all beautiful uwu <3".
In every video I see of him he's always saying that every idol "makes him pregnant". He also does these cringy sketches, it's SO embarrassing. I can just imagine people around him must have bailed so hard lol, imagine your friend turning into this in a year, full on pink clothes and Blackpink lighstick.
yg's never liked seungri, that's nothing new. he was originally cut from the bigbang lineup before being added again, he has to work on solo stuff himself (making music himself as well as using his own connections to producers, not yg setting him up with one) and when he did get his solo mini album in 2013 he had to overlap promotions with gd (who was obviously more popular) and had to promote jennie on a track, as did gd - gd specifically had that part recorded with sky ferreira and was told to promote a version with jennie instead, i don't know whether seungri chose her or was told to promote her too.
you could argue that seungri causes trouble for yg, he does have a big mouth and stuff, but some of the other favourites are scandalous too. he's fairly profitable, he's multilingual and seems happy enough to be sent somewhere and do his own thing, but he's always kind of been the extra one in bigbang.
Just because Korea did a bad copy of cool japan doesn't mean it was actually effective.
The things that they did like dumping money into corrupt companies and sponsoring festivals had minimal impact vs what actually made groups like bts popular, which is youtube, twitter, and vlive.
China is the land of copycats but I don't think they ever copied Kpop. I'm not familiar with current Cpop music but they seem to prefer adult solo artists over teenage idols. Kpop has something that catches your eye (colourful music videos, weird costumes etc.) but Cpop is just boring.>>354142
I'll be waiting for the day German media has its world-wide breakthrough.
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Rose from Blackpink is looking super thin this days, her legs freak me out.
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bighit blacklisted these fansites for using the same airline as bts through illegal routes (sasaengs?)
bighit not being pussies and taking action towards rabid fans? shocking
You answered yourself. But even musiciallt inclined people are ass because the barely talk about how trash these kpop idols are because they are afraid of gettin hate.
I saw a vocal coach reacting to RBB and spent majority of the video talking about the music video and only talked about the whistle notes and screams.
It's the idea that "normies" listening to music and liking it is validation for their kpop group. Even more for normie black people because they are considered cool, thus:
Cool black people like kpop = kpop is cool (circlejerk)
But black youtubers realize that the kpop fans love seeing black youtubers react. They are "hip". If an kpop group gets black validation it's sjw points. It gets them traffic and they know it. Not so hard.
t. former black koreaboo
buying info that (staff?) leaks, i think. they get some airport dates info from bighit and get punished for showing up uninvited
one of the blacklisted girls filmed jungkook mouthing her name and everyone thought it was so cute that he recognized her. turns out he was probably just unnerved by her lol
heres the vid/threadhttps://mobile.twitter.com/monitaehyunq/status/1084793943068270594
bonus video some other airport sasaeng
Did we see the same video?
The one vocal coach I saw (blonde woman) talked about how hard it is for her students to hit high notes and as a result their tone and enunciation suffers. Most of her critique was about her own students, nothing much about the singing in RBB. I learned quite a bit tbh, but nothing about the vocals in RBB which was what I watched it for. I guess she didn't want to provoke angry fans by saying Seulgi was straining too much so talked about her students as a roundabout?
Anyway most reactors only say good things, if they say anything slightly negative they'll get piled upon so they stay silent for the YouTube revenue.
i'm not sure, since i can't really into twitter but a quick search tells me it's supposed to be jungkook and the girls twitter thandle is @blacklchan39
here's another thread (i just searched sasaeng) https://mobile.twitter.com/detyoon/status/1084902612925849600
>what are you going to do when you come close to them
this can't be rational behaviour. no sane person would do this. another anon posted a good read if you wanna get into the crazies for a bit: >>349990
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did you guys see this?
Stans are chimping out over all their "hard work" getting erased and vowing vengeance>>354615
No, the company is known for filing fake copyright claims on yt.
Jimin is the epitome of struggle vocals. Even in studio versions he always sounds like he's one note away from falling totally out of tune.
V has a thin, weak voice that only gets shilled as hard as it does because he has a semi-interesting tone. It's not enough to make up for how poor his singing is, but Armies scream about it all day anyway.
Jungkook is just average. Not terrible, not particularly good, not interesting to listen to, not ear-rendingly bad. He's just there.
Oh and they let Jin sing a few "Yeah"s in the chorus too sometimes I guess.
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His dad doesn't look very Korean.
IIRC they did say that they would be pushing this group internationally (hence the low number of members), but I could be wrong.
Also, speaking of JYP, his new GG is supposedly debuting soon, I wonder if they'll go full girl crush concept or if they'll be Twice 2.0 although cute concepts seem to be overdone right now.
And why would being popular in America make Koreans like BTS more?
Let me help you: it starts with A and it ends with merican validation.
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God sasaengs are creepy. I wonder how common the more extreme stories like this are, since it's not like many idols are open about stalkers until they snap. Japanese TV is the only real chance to talk shit about Korean "fans", if you're willing to have Korea hate you https://www.kpopmap.com/jaejoong-talks-about-how-he-was-sexually-harassed-when-sasaengs-broke-into-his-bedroom/
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this is..embarrassing. I really hope this is fake
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a homage to drinkable yogurt
The overworked meme needs to die, you sound like an oppa defender. How do you know he was overworked vs something like stayed up all night playing fortnite?>>354784
Last I heard BTS had a 3 billion dollar impact last year. Apple did 265.6 billion dollars. Not even close to "superpower".
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Elliot Rodger alive and well in South Korea
I was the one that made post, Beyonce was the first one that came to mind so I used her as an example for gg fans hypocrisy and the fact that they praise girlgroups for the bare minimum. Not to specifically praise the artist in question.
Though with all the bs going on in hollywood i'm not too surprised with anything nasty going on.
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jungkook: stop walking and lays down in what seems like pain
the rest of the members: walk past
Lmao I was thinking the same thing.
Him being exhausted is unfortunate but watching him stumble standing up while his group mates just completely ignore him is hilarious.
idk about this case but i've noticed it with some groups that members don't help each other on stage whenever someone falls even when they notice it, they are probably instructed to do so.>>354851
i screenshotted it and he looks normal in the video, they're overthinking everything when in reality jungkook probably faints all the time and others may have health problems from stress too, so it's an everyday situation for them.
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truly the picture of concern.
bts fans can be so unintentionally hilarious.
Lmaoooo kpop fans are literal retards my god.
Its like their brain literally just makes fanfiction up as they go through their day even for the most simple, mundane things and thats the only way they see the world around them or something
Everyone knows idols basically arent supposed to acknowledge when something happens on stage or anything because it breaks their ~uWu im a product not a human being with emotions and reactions~ conditioning, I:e when taeyeon got snatched the hell off the stage mid performance and the other girls just kept flailing and dancing with the exception of Sunny. These idols are literally trained to be inhuman. And when they actually do try to help one another in an incident, the retarded shippers go crazy with their fanfic shit as if helping someone up on stage(which is something..you know..a normal person would do even to a stranger) is some unbreakable bond or marriage tier thing.
When Krystal fainted Victoria and Sulli immediately tried to carry her, they're probably the only idols I ever saw in dozens of those incidents who behaved like normal human beings.
Could it be a cultural thing? Like this incident in China there people didn't give a fuck that there was a child being driven over and bleeding to death right next to them on the street?
They are all probably on autopilot throughout the whole show, so I’m not surprised they arent paying attention.
Idk how the creep thought he could literally just snatch her offstage in front of a live fucking audience like damn not even doing it backstage when she could at least be alone and there would be no witnesses
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i want jimin himself to react to this
“He’s an amazing singer that can hit falsettos perfectly”
More bs than being non-binary themself
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The jokes just write themselves when it comes to armys, jesus christ. We don't need to insult their oppas when they do it for us
>>355104>it must be so hard since he hasn't come out>but gimme a minute to out him anyway
Even if this bullshit were true, why would this person post it?
The army are truly the biggest idiots.
They really come up with the most bizarre theories to push BTS's suffering narrative.
I saw one comment on one of those shipping YouTube channels that theorized that V was struggling with an opiate addiction because his weight fluctuates quite a bit and he looks like he doesn't feel good uwu
God, I'd pay to see him react at this… he would probably pull the disgusted face he reserves for int-Ratmys, but worse.>>355142>and watch a lesbian movie
And most likely jerked off to it.
>>355252>And most likely jerked off to it
Exactly, the film is known for its graphic, drawn out sex scenes and is hated by lesbians for how fetishy it is. It was no doubt just fap fodder for him
He seems to like indulging in porn that he can brag about, like how he bragged about jerking it to that Almost Transparent Blue book that fetishised black women. And army just think it's cute and makes him such a uwu intellectual since it isn't real porn.
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Sage for blogpost but i volunteer at an elementary school and the other day an 8 year old girl excitedly showed me this book she had about bts. She kept showing her classmates and talking about how she loved them and thought they were handsome and amazing. it took all my power not to physically cringe kek
i'd only encountered kpop fans irl who were in high school or college so it was just strange to see an average american child obsess over them. obviously she has plenty of time to move on to a new phase/trend as she gets older but just hearing her call herself an army was unsettling
also, having to look at the pictures in the book and pretend to agree that they're handsome made me want to die. the fact these are the faces representing kpop in the west…tragic
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The people there are so fucking weird. They think everything is a ritual.
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I don't think I'll ever get over the dancing EXO members do
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at this rate, kpop groups are gonna be full of people that arent even korean eventually lol
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Z-Girls is made up of Bell, Carlyn, Joanne, Priyanka, Queen, and Vanya, with one final, 7th member yet to be revealed.
Similarly, Z-Boys is made up of Blink, Josh, Mavin, Perry, Roy, and Sid, with a final, mystery member remaining.
Reportedly, the aim of the 'Z-Pop Dream' project is to create a concert brand which unites all of Asia, and act as a platform to foster the growth of world stars. It's likely that project groups Z-Girls and Z-Boys will be a temporary group where members can participate in a series of 'Z-Pop Dream Live' concerts over varying periods.
The first ever 'Z-Pop Dream Live in Seoul' is set to be held this February 23 at the Jamsil Indoor Stadium, featuring the above groups Z-Girls and Z-Boys.
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Make reaction videos to popular groups and make over the top comments about how great and talent the group and song is and how your insert kpop group name
trash now. Also throw in slang like slay and yasss queen.
anyone can make one yes but not anyone can actually get views.
and only males can successfully get views for kpop reaction vids, not (presumably underage) teenage girls like anon. if kpopfags wanted to see a teen girl squee over idols they could just look in the mirror or hit up a friend. the most anon can do is probably 300 followers on a twitter fan acc by 2020 with luck.
it's not like i'm planning to become a big youtuber, post anything personal about myself, pretend to be a kpop fan while showing myself or anything. i was talking about videos where they put some gay fanservice on slow motion, tinfoil about everything (in text or audio), put some sad music and make lgbt wokeness speeches or news-like videos where they explain the recent drama. both kind of videos might get copystriked but i don't know, such low effort videos get a lot of views because bts was in the thumbnail and the opportunity seems nice.
you have a point with reaction channels, they watch these videos because they want approval. i really don't see how a real vocal coach would actually find bts' vocals godlike but they fake it up for the camera, praise them and get views anyway
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Am i the only one who thinks Yuju and SinB are terrifying? I dont get how theyre the most popular members and for some reason Umji is considered ugly. I know she lost a lot of weight (and maybe ps) since debut but Umji and maybe Euhna are the only ones who look nice now
What about kbuzz: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrg0-urZtt8U0eFS3kq3cZQ/videos
I remember them a year ago they barely can crack 2k views per video but look at them now. They regularly get 50k and some posts occasionally go viral and get millions. It's so stupid because they do literally no work, just put text over pictures they find on twitter.
It's almost funny how badly the big sites like soompi and koreaboo missed this market.
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this member of txt looks uncanny, has bighit's surgeon already fucked with his face? if not, i can see him as jhope's potential replacement anyway>>355843
you'll need to do research then or at least copy shit people post on twitter or tumblr but i guess there are tons of youtubers who do that already. i know a few people who earn some money by printing and selling photocards with idols and buying albums and merch in korea and reselling them in my country because many fans are lazy to place an order themselves
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I wonder if kpop fans will go to this extent just to support the idols? Especially nugu group with no selling point like them
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Seriously, I thought kai was the best looking member of txt bc he doesn't look like anyone in Kpop rn… the first two have super boring visuals and the most recent one looks pretty uncanny to me…
Kai and him are both 15-16, can't wait for the cradle snatchers to be unleashed