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Rant about Kpop, its creepy fandoms, and/or its fucked up industry. Or just nitpick some idols.
· Don't racebait
· Don't fangirl. Save that for the Kpop General thread here: >>232763
· Don't derail about dumb shit. If it doesn't directly have to do with Kpop, don't post about it here.
Keep in mind that this is not the Korea critical thread. It's not about Korean society as a whole.
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what is the kpop obsession with really basic looking visuals? don't get me wrong, the two girls are pretty, but i wouldn't call them "shocking" or "standout." i've noticed this a lot in kpop, where the safest, most basic/standard faces are the most hailed, while more striking or unique beauties are often criticized or put to the side for the more basic beauty? as i said, don't get me wrong, bc they're still pretty, but i just think it's a bit weird; maybe it's just me.
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since we’ve officially adopted the rat nickname for rm can i just
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r a t m a n
will someone…please…just for the memes, edit ratman's face onto a rat or batman or some shit lmfaoooo
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It’s because of the YG clout. She’s pretty but I’ve come across more attractive girls IRL (cuz I live a place with a large Asian population).>>302978
Yeah, I definitley feel like South Korean beauty standards are so bland and adhere to a limited array of features. Seeing those two girls reminds me of that one time the contestants of Miss Korea were criticized for looking similar to one another.
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fansites act like they are in a "who's willing to waste the most money for oppar" competition lol. if i was an idol i'd be more freaked out than pleased. i doubt idols even wear most of these, it would be at least worth something if they donated all this money to charity or something
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they seem to get even more plastic post idol
its really an unfortunate trip going through former idols instagramshttps://www.instagram.com/p/Bn9rz8hBv97/?taken-by=xoxobek
speaking of, im starting to notice bekah has a lot of spots on her face i never saw those before
i know makeup hides stuff pretty well but even when she was more or less makeupless i never noticed the whole side of her face being like that
impetigo maybe? or birthmarks?
regardless shes always seemed so sweet and im glad she got away from idol life relatively unscathed but from how she talked, pledis did her dirty and made her feel really shitty about herself so i hope shes doing better now
and they wonder why all the other kpop fandoms gathered against them in the fifa poll. how hard is it to just fangirl over their oppars without putting down every single other kpop goup?
>implying jin and v aren't below average performers
taehyung has no talent other than making ex weeaboos wet by fulfilling their anime boy fantasies. jin has an acting degree but bighit doesn't know how to use it. jhope is a good dancer, jimin is okay too, suga and rm are okay rappers for kpop standards and jungkook isn't good at everything, he is just an okay singer. i don't hate bts but they aren't as mindblowing as armeries make them out to be.
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bekah herself is a "literally who" in kpop tbh
she was never pushed the way uee, nana, lizzy, and kahi were
in her statement after she graduated, i think she mentioned pledis told her she didnt bring any money or fans in and that was one of the reasons they were letting her go and im pretty sure they mentioned her weight
>>303269>pure criticism and not fangirling in disguise.
oh dear. ive got some bad news for you pal…
well, in all seriousness, we do try to keep fangirling out of this thread. but we do have fans about and people will occasionally say something nice about bts too. it's an occupational hazard. do you believe in all the illuminati/satanic stuff then?
haha, i'm the anon you're responding to. after school themselves aren't nugu (but maybe a little pathetic with the way pledis dumped them) but bekah was certainly nugu. literally the only reason why she's ever mentioned is when i-netz suddenly remember how unfairly she was treated in her time in after school, but that's about it.
actually it's kind of funny now that i think about it, because the way i-netz bring her up all the time for the way she was treated, she's literally the one of the only ones i remember from after school along with nana, lizzy, kahi, uee, and raina; i literally can't remember the other members sadly.
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predebut bts is scary
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they need help
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ntayrt but I think for his first nose job he had a straighter bridge then changed it to have a more pronounced slope. Now idk what he's doing but it's really looking weird
Idk what to believe tbh, I was only there to look for some tea. The amount of fangirling there was just too much, I couldn't take any of the info seriously cause they kept on adding unnecessary comments under the so-called analyses.
It's not just about Illuminati or satanic stuff actually, they also mention some stuffs concerning the harsh reality in the Kpop industry but instead of getting disgusted, they hold on with their belief that some of them were meant to help BTS and ARMYs, whether through prayers or just mention it randomly on their VLIVEs (yes it's crazy, they think they can really change the way the Kpop industry works by doing that). Some of them also wonder if they can ask "the boys" (this is how they refer to BTS members) at the fan sign and just ask about the Illuminati/satanic stuff.
At least nobody gets mad at anyone saying that Jimin is ugly af here lol. You can't say anything with all honesty without triggering
the woke ARMYs on the other forum. It's ironic cause they're supposed to know more about evil stuff happening in BTS, yet they still can't let go of their fantasies and obsessive fangirling.
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Soooo…now ARMYs think BTS should win a Nobel Peace prize.
Stop the world. I want out of this timeline.
Kudos to some random Korean professor who decided to bring up the idea and a pox on the always shitty ultra nationalistic Korean media for propagating it.
At this point I think ARMY should be considered a cult.
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You're not wrong. Here are few more gems from that thread.
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Shitty music saves lives ya'll.
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i can see how they're obsessed but eh as expected from armys
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And thread mascot for good measure.
Rape Mon looking like Voldemort. >>303571>Noble Prize
ratmys think that they can win all those awards but in america, they are only known for being popular via twitter. Just think about it, which major award did they win for their music? none. Only being social artist is all they are known for
Koreans are dick ridding bts cause they are the popular korean act overseas. If bts weren't as popular as now, Korea wouldn't give a shit
yeah, the world is getting shittier and shittier as the seconds go by.
I thought bts' fame would fade by now but the universe loves proving me wrong doesn't it
now that you've mentioned it its funny because both the kardashians and bts are among most insecure celebrities out there
who do you think photoshops their selfies the most?
please read the site rules and stop namefagging, newfriend.
and fyi, saying "yikes" made you sound way more like a tumblr tard than saying "unpopular opinion" did
He kinda fits the fedora stereotype.>Self proclaimed intellectual, fake deep, Dunning-Kruger at its finest >Le 150 IQ>Smug for no apparent reason>"She had too many male friends">Talks about women like they're cattle>No chin
I wonder if he says "females" instead of women, too
Wow. Just when I think I can't hate kpop and BTS more…
Just checked and they are relentlessly harassing this guy on his twitter.
It was discussed here >>286129
and further down the thread. >>304253
You'd think that with the amount of content that kpop provides they'd be busy 24/7, but these people just need to channel their aggression somewhere. They hate on people that dare to say something negative about bts, on other kpop groups, on korean fans, it just never stops
ARMYs need to stop overhyping the group’s accomplishments. How does saying “love yourself” ad nauseum while standing on a podium actually have much an impact upon the world? If BTS really believed in making the workd a better place, they’d be out hauling their asses in soup kitchens and shelters, not meeting up with Western celebrities and flexing the name-brand products that most kids in this world can’t afford.
They’re guys have already gotten so much undeserved money and notoriety, and yet their fans think they’re entitled to more for prancing around on a stage and acting like idiots in interviews. I bet not a single BTS member has the capacity with singlehandedly write a book and they’re out here asking for Nobel Prizes.
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>>304261>[the black woman] let out a tarzan growl>panted like a black javelin thrower i had seen in an olympic film>i somehow believed i had become just one huge penis>i thought his swollen asshole was like a strawberry
thank you for reminding me anon. i totally forgot this existed. those were the times…
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>>304280>you'd think armys would be not hypocritical enough to not harass people and try to ruin their careers when they constantly praise bts for being against violence and spreading positivity.
that's what gets me every time, the hypocrisy is unbelievable, even though i think it's also a problem with twitter in general, people are constantly virtue signalling there and attack other people.
btw just remembered i took this screenshot, attacking a person just because they don't like one member kek
These are the same dumb fans that scream love yourself-love myself bullshit
Armys resemble the jake paul and ricegum fans. I think a shitload of them came from there
That's what happens when you start with the "fuck the haters" mentality. I know BTS doesn't swear, but they've had several songs with that message more or less. And it makes their fans so fucking defensive all the time. Everyone is a hater out to get them, when most of the time is people just voicing their opinion.
I do agree with people getting hate when they get racial, but not to the level of "we will fucking ruin your life" that ARMY gets to. Or they get so fucking condescending "oh no you didn't, you will feel our wrath" and bullshit like that, or saying that bighit will take action lol. They are really proud of how toxic they are. Just a bunch of bullies.
tbh i think the person creaming themselves over death threats is a bit worse than the triggered
hoseok fan. but at the end of the day theyre both wrong, jhope is neither retarded nor "our sunshine uwu", it's called acting
*told V not to criticize
Made a dumb typo.
don’t forget jimincel.
ever since i realized how much of a putrid piece of shit he is his ugliness has become unnerving. i used to feel sorry for him for being called fat and ugly; now i’ve realized how true the latter is. fugly inside and out.
>>304299>I’d go with J-Hope because despite his loudness, he doesn’t come off as arrogant and/or pretentious as the other members.
i love how the one with the fakest persona seems to be the most real off-screen
he also seems to be the most work-oriented and serious as far as doing his job goes and is light years ahead of the other ‘dancers’. like yeah he’s unfortunate to look at but so are rat and jimin. at least this guy has actual skill and doesn’t seem to be a total dunce and/or asshole when he’s not forced to play a role.
speaking of that, i can’t believe he still has that persona forced on him. v got to change from 4d to art hoe when fans found his (genuine) retardation endearing but jhope still has to stick to that ridiculous act? he must be so bitter. (ironic given the persona in question is the polar opposite of that kek)
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id probably say jungkook too because he's the only one who generally just seems to be a pretty nice guy and hasnt said/done anything particularly offensive so far. however given the amount of pressure on him it's probably only a matter of time, i hope it's something scandalous when it happens>>304315
poor jhope lol, he and the other members basically straight up said he's nothing like that irl and is sick of pretending all the time
i'd say it's jin and j-hope too. aside from the way he acted towards taehyung when he criticized him, jin seems like a decent person. there isn't anything problematic
with j-hope either. he is actually a talented performer too
jungkook isn't the worst guy but i find the whole uwu baby boy thing annoying, they need to stop giving him that cringy persona
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Omg now the anchor guys on koreaboo calling him xenophobic…..
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Lmao I would love to see him try to live outside of Korea where being a couple of years older than someone doesn’t make you untouchable.
Imagine his crushed ego if he actually had to listen to and treat his group/team members/people he’s been living with for years as actual equals (which they are, they’re all early to mid 20s no big difference) instead of taking advantage of fucked up culture rules
At this point in their careers they should be able to speak honestly and frankly with each other. If Jin was more open to criticism and less apt to hide behind a ridiculous age hierarchy, maybe someone would’ve saved his corny ass from walking out of the house in this outfit
the news anchor had a point tho lol. outside of kpop, food, and samsung, korea is known for their rather "extreme" society…to put it at best. ig i won't say much about it since we're not supposed to talk about korean society in here but it's literally so fucking funny that a boy band being expedited as a national soft power is trying to tell impressionable viewers how to live life despite the fact that you can tell that they themselves do not live life to their own damn standards that they spout out to everyone else for money. how the fuck did kpop fans get so delusional?? literally one look at them and you can tell they're fucking ridiculous with their "love yourself" spiel and yet their fans eat it the fuck up somehow–it's insufferable.>>304405>Lmao I would love to see him try to live outside of Korea where being a couple of years older than someone doesn’t make you untouchable.
lmfaooooo i know this has been brought up many times throughout the kpop critical threads, but we witnessed how much of a brat jimin (and whatever other member it was) was being when a kid who was just doing his job told them how to properly do it because they were being annoying fucks. i bet jin would've been even worse.
>maybe someone would’ve saved his corny ass from walking out of the house in this outfit
anon i'm pretty sure that was a dare haha.
The vitrol I've seen on twitter about how "as a black man you should be ashamed of yourself" and how they want him AND the anchorwoman to lose their job frankly disgusts me.
Any black person coming to their defense is getting spammed by ratmys, middle aged white bts fans and asians about how disgusting black people are and it really shows ratmy's true colors and by extension kpop fans themselves how racist they are. This is why me and many other black kpop fans keep leaving.
i'm not even black but i don't see why it's black people's "responsibility" to support them when it's been proven over and over again how racist their fanbase is towards black people?? not trying to race-bait or anything, it's just stankmies showing their asses once again.
stankmies always want people to mind their business until suddenly it's "guys we all need to come together to support kpop and give it the representation and platform it deserves~!!1!!" but then literally shit on anybody else who "gets in their way." so much for love yourself kek.
and when you call out BTS/Kpop as a whole for being appropriating they cry and say>bts is NOT kpop REEE>bts APPRECIATES black culture
Which both are fucking lies and there is so much evidence going against the above statements by going back and reading the past kpop crit threads.
To free yourself from Kpop you must do a full fucking sweep. Sell ALL your Kpop shit.Take a day off and go through ALL your YouTube subscriptions to remove anything kpop AND/OR Korean related. Erase your fan accounts. Delete OR unlike/unfollow ALL KPOP/ KOREAN/ASIAN artist on spotify. Honestly, it's the only way to get rid of the Kpop virus (and the worst part is that I'm considered a causal Kpop fan; I can't imagine what more obsessed fans need to do to remove themselves).
This worked for me when I got too deep into anime (sans Attack on Titan, I enjoy the manga but that's it).
This is what kept me sane, and got me out of my depression because I wasn't FUCKING LYING TO MYSELF about how I don't have enough time to do my studying/ homework for school. I used to go home, eat, watch Kpop videos on YouTube and anime and then go to sleep. I lost so many hours to this and it has seriously effected my productiveness, how I used to study and contemplate new information in school.
Anime is a disease.
By extension, Kpop is a disease.
Therefore, all Asian entertainment is a disease.
Feel free to use this copypasta to warn others. You never feel like your are in this shit too big until it's too late and then you count the hours you lost to this.
>>304442>Netizens commented, "RM looks rather embarrassed", "Not sure if it's the cultural difference but that's taking things a bit too far," "From the angle taken, it looks like she can be leaning against the seat's armrest but I could be wrong. However, if she did actually sit on top of RM's lap she has no manners whatsoever," "the boys do look uncomfortable," "??? I still don't get what all the fuss is about", "Now that's hot," "looks photoshopped, no?"
Lol they are so insecure about their oppas that they make everything seems like they were "embarrassed". She's not even sitting on rat's crotch and it's still probably the highlight of his night lol
Did anyone share the actual MV? It's so generic. What a basic bitch song, she's just missing "if you don't like me at my worst you don't deserve me at my best".
At least she speaks English, I'll give her that. I don't detect an accent, is she from US? She can go on interviews and speak, not like ratmon and the mute boys.
i don't mean to bring the topic back to bts like we always do but that just reminded me of when nicki minaj tried to rhyme career with korea lmaoooo
anyways, funny how her group tried and failed to make it in america and now here she is, alone, trying to make it in america.
Her 1st MV post SM was even worse imo. She had other women supporting her only because she did everything herself and tried to break free from the image SM gave her. Like in that one interview where she basically spit the word "bitch" although being doubtful at first. Her fans her like "yeah you go girl! Show SM and the whole korean society your bravery!".
It's ironic since she don't seem to be able to let go of her popularity in Korea despite the whole "getting big in the US" thing. Just take a look at her new MVs and you can tell she's just trying to please her fans from the Kpop scene instead of trying to capture the attention of wider audiences. Nothing brave about that. Just some ex Kpop idol who speaks English and dares enough to spit the word "bitch" in an interview.
Fans really like to go from "respect korean standards" to "fuck what korean society wants". They can't make their mind lol they are so hypocritical. Like the whole Hyuna and Edawn shit, come on, they knew that talking about their relationship was a bad move. THEY are the idiots, not the company for being mad that they losed money over it. They acted as if Hyuna had any popularity left besides taking her clothes off lol.
In any case, what can an idol do to not "please their kfans"? Kpop is getting more and more western by the minute. Just watch Hyolyn Dally MV, it's already pretty sexualized. I guess Tiffany would need to go full lesbo or full Nicki Minaj Anaconda to be "controversial" on Korea lol
It seems from her MV she's going the Meghan trainor bubble gum "I'm a bitch" route. That MV was such a basic white girl vibe. >>304462
The comments on his twitter are insane… >i'm 30 and have a degree, i'm not your typical fangirl!
Uhm, you have purple hair and your twitter handle has bts in it…?
This video is already titled that he will likely lose his job. America isn't Korea. One small comment shouldn't be enough to ruin your life. That honestly makes me feel sick, then will this stop?!
The only 'wise' business decision an SNSD member (except maybe Taeyeon) could make would be to stay in the group as 9. They are all rich enough that they can pick their passions over being wise, so it's fine that they chose to do other things, but the most money they could ever make is touring as a group.
Big groups becoming irrelevant is just a lack of mainstream hype, it doesn't meant they don't have massive fanbases left to profit off for many years.
I was specifically referring to Tiffany, but yeah that might be true. Not saying that they shouldn't pursue their passions, but some idols really need to think through of what they're gonna do with their wealth once they're established.
Take example from Goo Hara's real estate investment https://www.koreaboo.com/stories/goo-hara-invites-foreign-fans-million-dollar-luxury-home/
The thing about an idol career is, it's very unstable. One scandal and boom, you're gone from the scene (Park Bom is a good example for this). Or once your company thinks you're not worth the promotions enough, they just stop promoting you (real case: f(x), S.E.S). Some other idols waste their money on lavish things while labeling themselves as starving artists (Coco from Cocosori is an example).
Every other business is just as unstable but at least they don't require much relevance or looks/youth as much as an idol career does to stay in line.
I don't think that really applies to BTS, it's more accurate for flavour of the month ggs with hit songs but male fans who move onto younger girls as soon as they appear.
Bighit probably just don't want to divert resources from their cash cow.
big hit are advertising auditions for male trainees so theyre probably waiting until the majority of BTS are shipped off to the military
but i think you’re right in that any new group would steal BTS’s thunder
Seriously. I never heard about the incident so just looked it up, andthe reaction of ARMYs is ott hilarious. My favorite is them insisting that
"Even in USA it's not normal to sit in the lap of someone you've just met."
Guess they've never been to parties/clubs/concerts/any social situation that doesn't involve their RM hug pillow.
lol stankmies are so certain that bighit is going to become one of the "big three" (idk why kpop fans care about companies and managers so much, it's such a weird concept to me, westerners don't stan scooter braun tf) but their track record has proved that BTS was a rather lucky incident. GLAM was a fucking flop and whatever happened to homme? i believe they've housed a few soloists too but i don't remember what happened with them.>>304483
this isn't kpop specific, but what is it with people trying to reck havoc on other's lives because of one thing they said?? i could understand if they said something extreme about wanting to rape or murder one of their coworkers but over a comment on a kpop group?? grow the fuck up damn. not that i go around spouting random bullshit that could attract the wrong audience, but it's why i don't really use social media anymore. you don't really know who's watching you and what their feelings are towards you.
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kpop fans are so annoying. she's grown yet they're making a big deal out of her cussing with her fellow group member? they must never go outside, on god.
If I remember correctly the source study was actually about stretched flaccid penis, but it was passed around as the erect length
Sage for OT
Dispatch is probably being paid off by BigHit. BTS is way too big at this point in their career, so it’s difficult for me to believe that they’re not taking advantage of/abusing their fame for sex and/or drugs in any way. I find them to be insidious and hypocritical. I mean, the group still collaborates with and openly supports Rock Bottom, which is a hip-hop unit with members that have made songs about engaging in rape fantasies and other reprehensible shit.https://www.koreaboo.com/news/rapper-iron-under-extreme-controversy-after-he-equates-rape-love-in-roll/
Sure you can’t assume that a person is exactly like their friends, but it sure says a lot.
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>tfw someone sits on your lap and you think of army's possible reaction>>304603
Looking at the armrest between Jimin and Jhope, I think she was on Namjoon and Jimin's knees, the armrest is a bit higher than where she sits. I agree that Kpop fans need to stop infantilizing grown men, it's so cringy
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the hypocrisy. bts members sit on each other's laps in group photos all the time and yeah, they cream themselves when it happens.
The pathetic excuses for this… >the korean translation is different and totally not vulgar! The whities who translated it to english were racists!>he was young! He's changed now!
Give me one reason why a translation from Korea (or the japanese original) would be more "woke".
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recycling this cursed image from the last thread
It's Ryu Murakami. It's just as vulgar in it's original Japanese. That's kind of his raison detre. And if I'm not mistaken that passage is from Almost Transparent Blue, which he wrote about his time in uni having sex and doing drugs.
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This is the most pathetic shit I've ever seen.
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Jhope nose is an abomination, I wonder if it's salvageable. I think those surgeons from Botched could fix it.
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He looked a lil bit better back then. I wonder what makes idols fix their nose/other facial part after a successful surgery? Do they really think they'll look better with newer surgeries? Are they just bored? Some of them really fucked up their faces like Jhorse did.
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oh my fucking god this is great
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ratmys are so fucking obnoxious
im not surprised and the lines will probably be long af
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Same, I don’t give a shit about bts themselves but armys are fucking obnoxious. Pic related
Isn't this guy one of those over the top reactors on Youtube? Doesn't he react and enjoy basically EVERY group in kpop? LOL Yeah right, you know who's on "top of the world", more like you like every trash Korea shits out no matter the source.
These reactors are trash, why even bother making videos if you're going to be all fake positive and like EVERYTHING? They pander so much to everyone… I've seen some shit MVs get so much praise from random people, even outside of BTS.
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I see Jin but have no idea who the other guy is even supposed to be? Jk?
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Ok, since anons on the other thread are still gargling on NCT's underaged balls can we talk about how fucking annoying NCT pushing is getting?
I'm subscribed to the SM official youtube channel because I stan most of their artist but all they do is post NCT. Recording session, dream vs dream, that korea tourism shilling, then the dance practices on top of the highlight reels, new members videos and live stages.
Like, fuck I know SM is scared because it has been 3 years and NCT still doesn't have a single decent song and a small fanbase, but can they stop pushing that shit in people's throat?
NCT is among the current 5 top money makers in SM (first one currently being SHiNee, followed by EXO) and people are acting like this group is really big when that could pretty much be because of the ridiculous amount of comebacks they have in a year, alongside collabs and stations, making the NCTzens roaches buy even more albums with bad hep hop songs.
This 48 members shit reminds me of the mentality EXO had when they first debuted of "they will at least like one of us". They thought debuting 18 trainees would bring the NCT label up but ended up fating them to being forever in unknown land. There's literally not one member of NCT who is that popular between korean normies.
Also, yeah, TVXQ is in third, maybe because of the Story of Light releases and Jonghyun passing away, their sales ended up surpassing TVXQ.
Here's the list for anyone interested:
4) Super Junior
6) Red Velvet
Honestly, it gets on my nerves when people assume other idols look a little bit depressed because look, the baby boy isn't smiling! I don't know any of Suga's work but if it were close to Jonghyun's lyrics, maybe that would be a red light.
But after he passed away, there were bitches going "oh, now we have to take care of the idols we have, look at this guy, he cried alone once, maybe he's having The Depression too"
Source? Because you were wrong as soon as you said TVXQ weren't SM's top money maker. Their recent tour had 1.28mil audience, the only other group that can seriosuly compete with that is Big Bang.
Not trying to be a dick but there is a lot of misinformation out there when it comes to kpop sales and data. People don't understand the numbers they see, but they spread it around on twitter anyway.
Yeah, I just saw the source for that and it was Pann of all places. Probably some Shawol or NCTzen made this. What surprises me, though, is how low they put BoA on the ranking as well.
Truth is, SM is really running dry currently, and if they don't pull a Twice with their new girl group I think we won't be seeing any growth from them.
I was waiting for NCT's Growl. And I'm still waiting. Their whole concept was horribly planned.>>304882
I also think the person who did this chart really downplayed TVXQ touring popularity.
The last thing I want from SM is a Twice tbh. I think they did well with RV, in both building a strong female fanbase (important for longevity, something Twice may struggle with) and giving them a solid identity as a group. I like with how cohesive their releases have been, it's like SM has put some genuine thought into their style and kept it consistent. Massive bonus points for managing to be cute and girly without gag inducing aegyo, too.
Who knows what's going on with NCT though. I think they'll scrape through and be considered a success, but not as much as they could've been as a less confusing and more consolidated single group.
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Well I'm not a stan, I don't know if they do a tonne of aegyo in variety etc. But as far as their MVs go, they made a concept out of intentionally dead faces while other girl groups are busy acting like sexy babies or girl crushes.
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Even though Red Velvet without a doubt has the quality of music Twice lacks, people seem to be more interested on the cutesy aegyo stuff and visual centered comebacks.
They want visual members, a cute catchy hand gesture and a killing part with some stupid shit lyrics. > You're too much! You're too much!> Sha sha sha
A reason why Red Velvet seem to be struggling compared to groups like Twice and Blackpink is because they don't have a public friendly appeal to their songs and well… because all of them are equally unlikeable. cough cough yeri and irene
Yeri constantly networking really pisses me off. It's obvious idols are constantly networking, but it seems to be her main priority.
Fans writing essays about BTS' lyrics isn't because their lyrics are so deep and need 50 people brainstorming to decipher the true meaning, it's mostly because they are either explaining literature references or trying to solve the BTS storyline, which BTS themselves don't understand kek
I saw armys who don't speak Korean discussing about "are BTS' lyrics hard to understand for Korean speakers" lmao. It's not like BTS members speak in a dialect only people with an IQ over 150 can understand.
For example, some BTS songs I enjoy are I Need U, Tomorrow and Blood Sweat & Tears. I Need U has basic lyrics, Tomorrow is just "keep calm, tomorrow will be better", anyone with a functioning brain can understand BS&T is about temptation without reading Demian. Their lyrics are not that deep, and there is nothing wrong with that. A song with simple lyrics can still be good, the way they try so hard to prove that BTS is deep and different than others when they aren't is funny
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Sure, because these girls won't drop them as soon as another idol group drop the tiniest hint that they are feminists. Girls are all over Red Velvet because Irene read that feminist book and looks bitchy around men and because supposedly they empower females while singing Ba-banana ba-ba-banana. Lmao.
Girl groups in general have an expiration date. And that's when other shiny new girl group appears. They still may have female fans left, but it's hard to stay relevant with just that.>>304896
I would also look bitchy as hell if I had to sing about bananas at 30.Really.
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I'm starting to think Jimin isn't the only reptilian in BTS
and ratmys find that sexy.
His nose looks creepy
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I know this has been said a billion time already but Jimin really is an ugly motherfucker.
1. They aren’t
2. If they are, it’s clearly their obsession with youth and cuteness that infects every aspect of their culture
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The styling for Russian Roulette is awful. None of the member looked great during that era. Red Velvet’s styling is usually a hit-or-miss for me in general though. >pic related had them looking like actual caricatures of children.
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I can't believe someone got paid to do this. It looks so cheap, like WordArt or some shit.
Wow, so intellectual.>>304931
I don't like how SM didn't include Lay in the promo photos, even if they said he'll be in the chinese MV, after all the tension and drama between exo members.
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The fuck happened to Suho's face
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The maturity level of your average Army
I think he just doesn’t talk or interact that much so people don’t have anything to hate on him for.
As a fan of BTS’s earlier stuff I am kind of disappointed by how little jungkook seems to have improved. I thought he had a pretty decent voice for being younger and inexperienced and would only get better, but these days I feel like he’s actually getting worse. How is that possible? He used to sing like 70% of their songs, was always in the front during dance formations, and was their go-to member whenever they needed a “soulful” sound. Now his voice just sounds whiny and almost as weak as Jimins.
Big Hit should’ve invested in their training more. They clearly focused on just putting out more content, louder content, faster content, etc. instead of perfecting what they were already doing. They should all be better at their jobs by now and BTS should have a clear group identity, but all Big Hit did was change their sound/image once they started getting popular (made it worse). Like, rapline members should all have a rap style that works for them best but instead we have them attempting to copy styles from American rappers and sounding more and more retarded in each new album. Jungkook should’ve been working on making his voice stronger as he got older but now they just auto-tune him to hell and back.
I hate the aversion Kpop has to letting groups keep the same image. How are they ever supposed to get good at anything if they have to keep “remaking” themselves two or three times a year? Of course the outcome is uninspired bullshit.
ratmys praise bts for their "artistic" raps but to me they are nursery rhymes. There are better albums on self love. When I compare mick jenkins'-the healing component(its a rap album and sorry if its off topic) to bts love yourself series, bts' album is garbage even though they claim it's about self love and all.
JB's love yourself outshines their album
They're all just overworked. The idols themselves, their producers and every other creative on their team. I understand why they keep going; they need to cash in now that they're still young and the hype is there, but I'd imagine with their clout producers (and stylists I guess) would be dying to work with them? I always thought BTS had a rather weak discography compared to their contemporaries but at least the HYYH series was somewhat coherent and had fun moments. The desperation to hit it big was reflected in their music (and BTS's personas! Just go look at some bangtan bombs from 2014/2015 and now) and effort was made, for better or worse lol. Everything after Wings is bland, if not straight up unlistenable. Their management is completely overwhelmed and it's frustrating to see it still being rewarded simply because a) for their fanbase that is mainly young teens this isn't about music but an emotional investment and they'll buy it either way and b) the west doesn't take foreign music seriously and only sees BTS as the cash cows they are which results in people overlooking potentially better music. But maybe that's just a problem with pop music in general and it's my (our) fault for looking for something deeper LMFAO.>>305002
The Love Yourself "concept" was so goddamn superficial it actually makes me laugh. What was the point of that? What was their goal, besides money from 10000 different versions? Just make good music and go man
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wtf is wrong with this man's jaw
I feel like this can be a copy pasta for any artist lol! Like I can put Taylor Swift on there and it would still sound just as pathetic…
These delusional fans need to stop being so insecure about k-pop and their fav idols not being popular. They seriously overthink things… Not everyone will like it nor care for it.
Armys think by stanning a non-white group they’re somehow being progressive and “woke” that’s why they act like liking Bts is so important and serious. That’s why they attack anyone who doesn’t kiss BTS’s ass. They think they are promoting equality through promoting korean culture, despite kpop and korean culture being just about as unequal and problematic
as it gets.
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what is "perfect" about this reptilian looking ass lol, i'd understand if they were praising him for his dancing skills or whatever, but the guy doesn't even fit the stupid korean beauty standards
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In continuation, some ARMYs are trying to introduce a resolution to the UN to sanction this reporter. WTF
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Incredible. What a time to be alive.
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of course he used the internationally recognized gesture for blowjob to ask for a lollipop, you dirty anties just don't understand!!!
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I looked at her twitter and honestly she seems depressed, BTS is one of the only things to bring her happiness
I pity her at this point. bts might be secretly dating as we speak and when their scandals leak, i hope you help her. I hope she doesn't kill herself over that. There are fans out there who cut their wrists in the name of love to their faves and would commit suicide if they date.>>305239
jimin always comes off as a pedo/pervert to me. Asking for bjs? really? you are rich enough to get it anywhere else but he just has to ask his underage fans for that shit and those rats will defend him. Disgusting.
I gave him a zero rating but know it has hit the negatives
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"lyrics are genius"
"they can rap, sing and dance uwu"
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"Bitch, I'm a star, but no Patrick"
That part of Ddu Ddu Ddu Jp Ver never failed to crack me up.
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How is this artistic? This is embarrassing
>>305302>that dimple is illegal >so I call your illegirl >you are my lake
Lmao holy shit this has to be a parody. What makes it even funnier is that you just know ratmys are swooning and fainting while thinking they're the most romantic lyrics ever written.
Don't they have a song that literally starts off with them singing "i'm a whale"?
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Imagine blowing Park Reptile… Looking up to see this… Terrifying.
what is there to blow? lmao
Is that lipstick?wtf
Seems to be, which good on him but even Korean (or wannabe Korean) BTS fans have gotten in on the action of harassing him on twitter.
Check out his most recent tweets. ARMYs are definitely showing their racist asses. Ironically, because this guy going along ignoring them and posting about stuff that actually matters, he wins the day I think.https://twitter.com/kendisgibson
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lmao these retards
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>I am a BTS fan and went to the LY tour
>Don’t really consider myself an army I just like their music
>Finally get into the venue
>Just sitting down, waiting for the concert to start
>Music videos are playing on the jumbo screens, people are cheering and singing along
>Two girls come and sit in the seats next to me
>The girl directly next to me is the epitome of army stan twitter
>She starts screeching at the top of her lungs
>It’s still just the music videos playing
>She makes it known to everyone in the arena that she’s a Suga bias by screaming, “Yoongi!!! Yaaaaasss daddy!!!” Every time he comes on the screen
>When people don’t cheer loud enough for Suga she yells, “y’all aren’t hyping up my mans!!!”
>She’s so obnoxious and cringy, I’m annoyed
>The concert starts
>I have an idea
>Whenever Suga performs, I start screaming and singing at the top of lungs
>I don’t even know what I’m saying
>She actually shuts up
>I had a good time
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ARMYs are unwashed trash
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Last. These are just from the 8 hours btw. Didn't feel like going back any further but they'v been harassing him for days.
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he was covering an incident where people died and these fucks have the gall to spam this shit. shatmies are the worst.
truly what you expect from grown ass people running around pissing in diapers and shitting on the street.
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So Leetuk sent a dm to a fake account of Yeonwoo of Momoland.
how DARE HE OH MY GOd
WHAT AN AWFUL HUMAN BEAN TO DO SUCH A THING
The apology is NOT enough!!!
god i fucking hate korean culture
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I'm screaming. This is funny as hell. Why? They are fighting common sense with racism, ignorance and stupidity. I hope they get exposed for this then bye bye bts. Their grammar is comedic
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i see a resemblance
>>305263>jimin always comes off as a pedo/pervert to me.
armys have actually noticed this too, they have the """pervert line""" which iirc consists of jimin, jhope and rm, rm is obvious because of all the jerking off to weird japanese porn and stuff, and jimin definitely has weirdo vibes. jhope idk about but im sure there are receipts on him too>>305324
"anything criticising something done by people who arent white is racist!!!"
ffs armys, not all criticism about them is cause of their race. isnt THAT idea a little bit racist? also it was a black dude saying it in the first place lmao. and then you have the other armys on the opposite end of the spectrum who ARE being racist to him and calling him a nigger. yikes. i can see bts fake wholesome messages haven't exactly been sinking in lol
its not like hes apologizing for the age in the first place
hes apologizing because "oppa attempted to contact someone with a pussy even though hes 46854735345 years old and hes still a virgin waiting for me!!11~"
yes. even now when he goes for interviews, I feel like his faking his accent or forcing it. I don't understand what he says 90% of the time>>305392
eww thats gross. wtf
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wish i didn’t
I just found it weird compared to other koreans, they have this other accent when attempting to speak in English
Wtf. That's nasty
No you wouldn’t lmao stop lying
His blaccent can only cover up his inability to consistently correctly match subject/verb agreements for so long!
Yeah I know what you mean. I guess ratmon’s accent is also partially due to him being more fluent in English compared to other Korean idols. Since he has a decent grasp of vocabulary and syntax he’s able to focus on his pronunciation, while other Koreans who are not proficient in English are going to be more focused on what they say rather than how they say it.>>305427
I mean, people do mimic certain dialects from their target language/s to improve their pronunciation but ok if you disagree lol. I wasn’t trying to explain his blaccent, just why he sounded American.
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They call me autist (autist)
They call me Ratmon (Ratmon)
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Dropping this Lizardboi here for posterity
This^ I was so confused when DNA came out and was like "where's the 'Love Yourself' in this?"
That's literally just the name of tge propaganda. That's it.
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What species is this thing? for all I know he ain't human
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That middle quote made me think because I had no idea what it was saying I thought I was having a stroke, thanks ratmon
I find it funny how BTS is getting supported to win a fucking Peace Prize when Korea still, to this day, have schools that will fire foreigners who were raped, make women who were beaten apologize to their abusers, still believe that eating dogs and cats will make their dick hard, and blame little kids for being run over on the sidewalk by delivery trucks.
Korea is a third world country masquerading as a first world country, coming from someone who lives here. BTS isn't even huge, half of the students I teach don't care about them. Foreign fans are fucking blind and as you said, deaf, too.
tldr Korean society is super fucked in a lot of ways and even BTS can't hide it.
If someone from Korea was doing something prize worthy then go ahead give it to them
But armys think BTS deserve it for simply being korean which is ridiculous. As you said it’s a horrible place in a lot of ways, definitely no better than anywhere else. Koreans are just as shitty as Americans, British, Europeans, Africans, etc.
This is what happens when stan culture gets mixed up with activism. Stans literally keep lists of racist things idols do so they can use it agaisnt other fans in stan-wars. Kpop fans actually get happy when a group they hate does something racist or offensive, because they can now use it to prop their faves up. They don’t actually care about ending racism or being good people, it’s all just in service of stanning their bias group.
>>305423>I'm American>If I didn't know who he was and heard him speaking I probably would think he's American
Are you sure you're American, anon? He doesn't sound anything close to American. His UN speech might have had you fooled, since it was comprised of simple common words, but when he tries to expand his vocabulary above that of 3rd grader, it becomes apparent that his ability to speak English isn't that great, and his pronunciation isn't even close to right.
I'll give him credit where credit is due tho. Speaking foreign languages is hard and he does seem to understand English at a pretty good level, but if he wants to keep their footing in the Western market, he (and the rest of BTS) should put more effort in to speaking (or learning) English.
It doesn't matter how well you can read or listen to English, if you're only able to form simple and uninteresting responses.
It’s not like the overcame some extreme odds to find success either. They come from one of the biggest pop music machines in the world. They werent some poor, barely scraping by rag tag team of nobodies who got famous as street performers on the corners of the ghetto and finally made it big - they were living as privileged young men in a rich, developed country with an entire team of professionals jacking other artists sounds for their albums, choreographers stealing popular dance moves for heir videos, and doctors sculpting their faces into something they already knew a mass audience would like.
BTS aren’t fucking heroes.
b-but anon, the lyrics of anpanman taught me otherwise… i wonder if they'll be lazy and recycle the same ideas in the next comeback, how heroic it was of them to become idols, another message to the haters, etc.
it's just occurred to me that if delulu armies found this place, we'd all be ded. they'd spam the shit out of this board, track our ips and everything. oh no
Dude, come on. It's not hard to fix pronunciation, it's like he's not even trying. I don't think anybody has ever told him how to actually speak English and just let him do his own thing. Between his featureless face and this, how do people find him attractive?
He looks like every wannabe gangster Asian kid I went to middle school with.
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At what point did he slut shame them?
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I nominate this as the next image thread
with the quote from this >305481 added in as well.>>305518
I agree that Yeonwoo is so pretty but so lacking in charisma. I also came across this selfie she took and she looks a lot tanner in >pic related than she does on-stage in fantaken photos. I was kinda shocked.
i've heard about the problems of south korea but i didn't know it was this bad, i'm from a country near middle east and the things you said are the kind of shit that happens here.
some people who won the nobel peace prize are a pakistani woman who got shot at age 15 for her activism on giving pakistani girls the right to attend school, an indian man who saved over 80.000 children from child labor, a liberian woman who was the first elected female president in africa. what exactly did bts do to deserve this prize? their charity work and self-love themed campaign are nice but even their fans don't practice what they preach. they've been harassing someone for saying "they are from korea" for fuck's sake>>305335
lol slut shaming bts? what? did they even watch the video and come up with their own conclusion or they just saw the hate bandwagon and jumped into it? they can't even form their own opinions, they do what the other fans are doing. the fans who defended the news anchor probably got attacked too.
But they are. those fucks want him to say"boy band from Asia" which sounds worse. Aren't bts koreans? the news anchor ain't wrong, who takes bts serious other than their dumb fans?
Those armys were accused for fake streams on spotify so that bts appear on the billboard 100 chart. Just think about it, bts appear on no. 10 then the next week they fall off or drop their position to like 70 or something. As compared to drake, his songs top the charts for weeks or climbs up the ladder on the charts till the top and bts are considered top artists? where
Damn I still don't get why Koreans LOVE wearing foundation/bb cream that are 1 to 2 shades lighter than their skin tone. It's very prominent when you look at selfies of these Kpop stars. It looks very ugly yet no one thinks it's weird.
This is also the reason why I stopped using Korean foundation, even the darkest shade will come off very light for Asians (I'm Asian myself). Also when you see the self-tutorial like on Innisfree Instalog, the models will often be seen wearing this kind of ridiculous BB Cream/foundation shade. Some Kpop fans with even darker skin tone force themselves to wear Korean products just so they use the same things as their idols do. It's so dumb.
Their rats are the reason. They will complain if they don't win any awards.
At some point I wanted to learn the language but korean is so boring gosh!
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Not race bait or anything but why do kpop fans especially in korea keep saying that they don't try to look white? They keep denying it "It's their culture, they are natural","Its the standard of beauty for centuries" They look nothing like the traditional koreans(if that's a thing). In their old days they didn't have the tech to have ps so I don't get why they claim double eyelid, thin nose bridge and shaved down jaw existed in the old days.
Why don't these kpop fags and koreans just admit they want to duplicate the European appearance.
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>the talent and stage presence to pull it off
I think the fuck not.
Not even good
singers usually have the power and range to tackle it. And the ones that do
are usually not arrogant enough to try.
ARMYs are the most delusional group of stans I've seen a while.
Real Talk: If their precious Rapemon or Reptile pulled a Jim Jones how many of these fucks would actually drink the cyanide kool aid?
Anon did you know that BTS actually wrote Bohemian Rhapsody but Freddie Mercury stole it? Smh what an injustice>>305680
Nah. It's more of a "alien-with-a-dyed-bowlcut" look.
Idols for some reason love making impersonation of Michael Jackson, it's incredibly cringeworthy, pls don't do Freddie Mercury dirty like that. I think I saw Lucas' >>305698
parody of Michael Jackson too btw.
I thought pineapples on pizza is bad. That shit is nasty. These guys believe pale skin is pure and they don't get dirty. They don't even put on deodorant.>>305697
These black fans will go a step further and defend their faves for the racist shit they do."I'm black and I'm not offended","I'm a black kpop fan and I found it funny". Like seriously? These kpop fags are discriminating you and your whole damn race but that all you can say. If there was a delete button, I would delete these fans from the black community. They disgust me
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Armys created a tent city at Citi Field for the BTS concert even though Citi Field kindly asked armys to not camp out and said GA wristbands would only be handed out at 8am today.
They should do it how they do in Korea. GA tickets are assigned a number and to go in you have to line up according to your number so it doesn’t matter how early you get there. If your GA ticket says something like F596, you’re fucked.
It requires way more staff though to keep people in line and following the rules but at least there are no tent cities.
i actually went through a phase back when i was a koreaboo where corn, shrimp and mayo actually looked good on pizza to me
thankfully i never tried it other than the corn, which wasnt bad but not something id eat the way koreans do thats for sure
I’m pretty sure for the NA part of the tour (besides Citi Field) wristband numbers were given out in the order that people were in line. Once you got your number you could go home and come back into the line the day of the concert. Korea’s system seems way better than NA’s tho, I wish all concerts would make that the universal method for GA.>>305717
Kek armys are going to screw themselves over by having bts banned from multiple venues because no one wants to deal with their tent cities
It all tastes like shit because they drown their pizzas in shitty plastic cheese and undercook it, pay no attention to the sauce, and the toppings are shit too. Don’t let the pictures fool you that stuff is garbage and tastes like a dumpster in your mouth. Omg I hate korean pizza so much. Who the fuck puts crushed almonds and honey on top of pepperoni pizza? Why does corn have to be hiding under the cheese when you specifically asked for none? They all order squid ink crust stuffed with mashed sweet potatoes with like 3 different sauces on top in addition to all the low quality toppings. Jesus. I asked for a veggie pizza once and all I got was undercooked dough with cheese (no sauce) lettuce on top drizzled with vinegar. I get every country has different tastes but their pizza is out of control.
And the world thinks America has no respect for other countries’ foods…
The cult-like behavior of ARMYs (and K-pop fans at large really) is so prominent.
Back when I used to be hardcore into K-pop, I would browse forums where people would joke about “converting” normal people into fans and spending hundreds in K-pop merch/junk that won’t age well. Others have said before that K-pop companies use various marketing streategies to keep fans “hooked” (e.g., the high frequency of comebacks, release of variety show content, and so on). K-pop really was an addiction to me for some time. Even if I knew that I was wasting time by consuming K-pop-related content, I just did it anyway because I was so involved with the community and didn’t find other hobbies as easy to immerse myself in as K-pop. I’ve only come to see now how the whole industry is so fucked on how it exploits/manipulates its workers and the minds/wallets of its consumers.
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Are they trying to make another Jin?
I cringe at my past self for liking these dumb songs. I think the best I ever did is find better music and now I cant stand the kpop shit that's out today even though I'm struggling to ditch bap>>305698
Jin is so childish and annoying. This dude is approaching 30 and his acting like whinny little brat
Babies, animals, whatever can be cute, but 16 year old boys…?
And how are they funny? The shows they're on, the fanservice they do, everything is scripted.
I said their cringiness is funny. Doubt literally /everything/ they do is scripted.
>Babies, animals, whatever can be cute, but 16 year old boys…?
Yeah, why not? Only two of them are 16 anyways, the rest are legal.
The kpop general thread is aids, it should just be called NCT general at this point.>>305768
It's a similar mentality to the handmaidens that come out of the woodwork when they see misogyny: "I'm a female and I'm not offended1!!!1!"
Like, cool? You don't speak for all of one marginalised group, in fact you're an embarrassment to said group.
He does give off some smug fuckboy vibes, but he's probably exaggerating it for his persona.
One thing I still haven't completely understood is how plastic surgery works for idols. Is it mandatory in the contract? Do they get it for free if it's their agency that "requests" it?
His English is obviously far from perfect, but to me he almost passes as a dumb/barely literate English speaker or as someone who moved to an English-speaking place when they were young, but not young enough to sound 100% natural (around 15 or something). It's not even the blaccent necessarily, but he manages to sound less ESL than he is by avoiding most of the tell-tale signs of an asian ESL speaker (mixing up R/L, adding vowels to the end of words that end in consonants, etc). I'm just basing this on this dictation and the Jimmy Fallon interview, I don't watch much BTS-related stuff.>>305784
I can't read that thread, they're just as bad as the twitter stans. I've literally seen people on there saying they want to tie up [insert NCT member] and do [insert lewd thing] to them.
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Maybe it's just me, but I prefer nit-picking to this.
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>>305506>he (and the rest of BTS) should put more effort in to speaking (or learning) English.
But anon– if they actually learn and communicate in English so that they continue promoting in a majority English speaking country, the racists win. BTS is the mostest woke group ever and shouldn't have to learn evil English. Everyone else just needs to learn Korean uwu
There are actually Twitter stans who believe they shouldn't have to learn English at all because ~*muh ray-sizum*~. Easy to assume these are the same morons attacking that newscaster.
Many artists and actors learn English to make it in the US. Americans might promote their work in other countries as well, but only visit for a very short time. Meanwhile BTS are constantly in the US, want to win all the awards there and so on…
Nearly all Europeans can speak or at least understand English, yet Army dismisses that as "white westerner privilege".
Imagine we'd call them "Easterners" kek
English is the closest thing we have to a world language. Don’t blame Americans for that, blame the OG colonizers from Great Britain who set up shop in every corner of the world and started it all.
It’s not fair, but that’s the way it is. If BTS could communicate well in English they would reach more fans in every country, and their business communications would be a lot easier too. There’s really not a language you could say the same thing for when it comes to American artists, since they already speak the most common second language. They should still learn a second language though, it’s proven to be good for your cognitive function and it does open you up to more experiences and different ways of thinking.
If they were only touring the US for concerts and just doing kpop related things, it would make sense. A lot of American artists who promote outside of the US are only in other countries to have a concert date or two/promote a movie for a few days. They're not trying to cement a career promoting outside of Burgerland.
If BTS were in the niche market Korean Americans and kboos, they wouldn't really have a pressing need to learn English. Thing is, though, they're trying to break into the mainstream American market. They should at least have a translator on shows with them until they can hold basic conversations. Right now, all they have is fedoramonster talking like a wigger during interviews.
Honestly, it seems like the thread has probably become a new home for OneHallyu's bashing thread since it got shut down.
I honestly don't get the appeal of NCT or BTS, both make shit music. But it seems like either Twitter stans of both groups or stans from OH have infested this and the other thread.
Can we please start spoiling thses pics pls
They're borderline NSFL and I feel like lizardboy here is going to consume my soul through this photo if I look at it too long
any human being who kept visiting a particular country for work, who was pushed by their boss to promote there, who had literally millions of fans speaking that country's language would at least learn that language to a certain level where they can handle basic daily conversations. bts being the hardworking geniuses they are, can't learn it though, because if they do, xenophobes win. i mean, it's completely people's fault to expect them at least being able to handle a 3 minutes long interview. rm learned it? because he has an iq over 150.
i'm not saying "ugh bts should start making music in english!!!" but people with millions of english-speaking followers not showing any effort to learn the language is funny.
If bts want to promote in america, shey SHOULD learn the language. There are some latin artists out there that cater to their latin fans but they know their music is big in america but they still learn the language.
Bts think they are gods enough not to learn the language because their shits baby them not to since they have this mentality of"if don't like bts, you're racist!!1!!!!1","they are attacking our precious fans, armies called them racist. We believe our fans, they are racist!Lets make a diss track!!" They are laughable at this point
It’s true they did stink and one army let it rip right in front of me so basically it smelt like hot farts. I was so hoping it wasn’t true…
Live their stage presence is ok but some of their vocals are shit. Like Jimin doing high notes was way too much for my ears. It sounded weirdly off tune. My friend who even said him reaching the high notes was too much.
sometimes they lip sync, sometimes they sing. their live vocals aren't very good from what i've seen in the videos>>305976
damn anon this is traumatic, i'm sorry. since they get praised for their dancing often i also want to ask, do you think they are good dancers? from videos only jhope looks like he knows what he's doing
Yeah, Yeonwoo is meant to be the sexy & mature girl in the group. She's the second oldest, she's always seen wearing shorter and more revealing outfits than the others, not to mention the seductive gazes in every MV/stage performances. That's the only reason why she stands out. She can't even sing live.
Only Nancy and Yeonwoo stand out the most, cause they take the visual roles despite having no personality. Jooe only catches the public attention because of her funny looks lol. Can't say much about the others.
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Who else finds it cringeworthy when 1st gen idols try to appeal to younger generations?
This guy from sechskies is a 38 yo asshole with a bunch of controversies. Not to mention his style, he looks like a try hard BTS wannabe with his pink hair.
>>https://www.kpopmap.com/sechskies-member-kang-sunghoon-cancels-fan-meeting/. SungHoon has cancelled his upcoming fan meeting that was originally scheduled to be held in Tokyo, Japan.
>>His recent controversies including dating rumors with his fan cafe moderator, embezzlement, using a term that promotes school violence, and using a condescending tone towards a fruit truck that was driving by him in the wealthy neighborhood of Cheongdam.
>>But the most damaging one was involving him breaking into his former manager’s home while also stopping a cab that his former manager was in on a separate occasion.
>>YG Entertainment CEO Yang HyunSuk also recently opened up and made it clear that he was very well aware of the controversies surrounding Kang SungHoon, while adding that he intended to ‘reform’ SECHSKIES very soon. This naturally has raised speculations that Kang SungHoon might not remain as a member of the idol group for long.
YG just keeps promoting their controversial assholes rather than supporting their musically talented artists (Lee Hi, Akmu).
Don't get me wrong tho, I still have respect for 1st gen idols like Shinhwa or G.O.D who act according to their ages
The most funny thing about this is that he claimed to be suffering from mental health issues and used it as an excuse for his shitty behavior.
Mental health issues has become the go to excuse every time a scandal is brewing
>Park bom suffered from depression when she was caught smuggling drugs>TOP suffered from depression when he was caught with weed>Kush was suffering from post-break up depression when he was caught with coke>That crayon pop member that quit her group because she was suffering from anxiety when in reality she was just pregnant
the way companies are using mental illnesses as an excuse for everything these days is so incredibly disgusting.
Was never really clarified weather there was a sucide attempt or not tbh.
YG was the one to claim that he overdozed and was unconcious while the army just said he was sleeping.
I don't want to conclude anything, but it might all be YG mediaplaying in order to gather sympathy. He obviously isn't mentally ill to the extent of him not being able to fulfill his military service, as he is serving now.
I don't get it. If Koreans are actually just trying to look white with all their plastic surgeries and hair dye like >>305673
said, wouldn't attempting to look like a K-pop star (ie something he should naturally look like already) turn this guy into a god?
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If you mean by "look" is a white guy trying to look Asian, then I can't name any other than those PS freaks.
I can name a few popular white guys in South Korea though. Robin Deiana (the guy on the right) is a French TV personality in South Korea. I think his features are what the Korean people are crazy about.
Note that they don't go for a full white look, but rather a mixture of Korean and Western look, with a sprinkle of alien features. They will deny it if you accuse them of whitewashing themselves because their people are the best, thus making their beauty standards the best too lol.
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Idols with and without makeup look so weird. Kpop fans call this hot?
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what the fuck is wrong with his eyes, sue the surgeon
ive seen people who look like specific idols but its less of a race thing and more just a personal similarity
for some reason suzy looks like a lot of white girls ive seen
not usually. even at fansigns the girls who attend can have idols take selfies of themselves with their phones but can’t take a photo together with the idol.
i think it’s half done to keep fans from getting harassed en masse. any woman who takes a photo with a male idol alone will be subject to dating rumors due to koreas messed up societal gender segregation. i remember rm took a photo with a makeup artist and she was harassed into taking it down.
the other reason i think it’s done is to keep fans and idols separated so fans desperately consume more media by the idol to feel close with them. maybe they’re afraid that if fans can take photos with idols they’ll feel too close to the idol and won’t obsessively spend their money on them
It's because pictures like those can easily be used to start rumors>>305942
I have 0 interest in current Kpop as a musical genre or fandom, I check the thread out every now and then because of the culture bashing posts (ancestryfag) instead of the music industry.
Duh anon. It's because BTS are super woke and Jimin hates white people.
But seriously, it's probably that their "hip hop" (used lightly here) style music attracted the self loathing POC who were already socially ostracized because they were into anime etc. If they listen to Asian dudes making hiphop, they can claim to be in touch with their culture while still consuming weeb media.
Tl;dr: it's black, but not TOO black so people don't lump them in with everyone else. They're not like other girls, tee hee~
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Update on this mess:
ARMYs are still terrorizing this guy but there are other people who are posting evidence about BTS/ARMYs own racism.
Bonus these fucks are shitting up tweets that have nothing to do with BTS. Case in point, an article about a politician with depression seeking treatment was full of the their bullshit. Confused I went back to see why. Sure enough the anchor had retweeted the article.
ARMY is too stupid to realize that retweets aren't the same as tweets.
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The whole Kendis situation is getting really ridiculous. Some army called out the other armies racially charged comments Kendis, and some account called "report ARMY" is trying to get them off twitter.
Yeah that was the account I was talking about posting evidence of what racist xenophobic fucks BTS are. I still can't believe they did that photo shoot at the Holocaust Memorial.
She seems to have legitimate information. No wonder the cult of Rapemon and the Reptile wants to shut her up.
The way thousands of their minions labeled a man as racist for saying "they are from Korea", tried -and still trying- to ruin his career isn't defamation but calling out BTS' bullshit is? This cancelled culture on twitter is so fucking dumb, these people are like fucking robots who can't think by themselves and jump on any hate bandwagon they see. They are also the reason why you can't criticize BTS literally anywhere, if one ratmy sees you and doesn't like what you said they'll take your words out of context, send you to these uwu report army accounts and get you and your 50 future accounts suspended
>(You can report them to BH as well)
kek what the fuck do they expect Bighit to do, sue anyone who dares to say anything negative about BTS?
>>306114>sue anyone who dares to say anything negative about BTS?
suga literally said that in a recent vlive kek, i saw screenshots. pretty sure suga himself was joking, but i bet you armys took it straight to heart.
still feel bad for that guy. hes probably not too worried about some screeching teenage girls, but still… all these ranting strangers legitimately want to ruin his life and for him to lose his job and stuff. very unhinged
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lol at the army who said 'Oh, oppa, don't see hate comments, and only see pretty things.' god forbid anyone say something not-so-pretty about your oppars, there is no way grown ass millionaire adults can handle it
thing is some of these fans don't even want to say they're kpop idols o represent korean music or culture at all or that even acknowledge the fact that they are korean? like isn't that racist? lol
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I feel like this belongs in here :v
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saw this on twitter and it gave me a laugh. armys thought it was all terrible of course, but i thought it was hilarious, bts btfo in korea.>>306187
it must be to do with the whole industry's roleplay 'the idol is my boyfriend!' thing. laughing at how international fans complain about korean fans thinking idols are their property but then turn around and do the exact same thing.
>>306189>Cover whatever BTS song you want chief these boys stand for nothing less than self love and acceptance and as long as you’re having fun that’s rly that on that
They simply don't get that this band only would have covered bts as a treat for the korean fans - not because they're fans themselves. Just shows that armies are immature as hell, thinking one should only do as one pleases, regardless if thia makes them lose fans and therefore income.
Recently there's been a new controversy every single day, first army have to attack that reporter, than defend themselves against stinking and streetshitting "rumors" and now this lol
the asian butthole eyes>>306124
is that a real tattoo? please say sike, it looks absolutely retarded. then again, chanyeol has always been ~edgy hipster~ so.>>306223
funny how stankmies loooove when their baby boys make covers of other artists and constantly harass and make stupid comments towards the original artist, but the minute someone else wants to appreciate BTS suddenly covers aren't okay LMAO.
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ew why do kpop fans like this shit? it's so fukin weird, like just go to pornhub or something with your fetish damn.
No it hasn't always been like that. The whitewashing trend only starts after 2013 I think. Hyuna was tanned in Bubble pop and that didnt stop her from getting fans. Nowadays if youre not as white as a paper, you'll be considered ugly.
I legit like SNSD's ex subunit back in 2008, they looked so natural, like there was barely makeup there, not even a hint of lip tint (which is now a thing even for male idols smh).
gonna be honest and state that I personally like him a lot but, god, he doesn't have any self awareness does he?
he doesn't know what suits his voice, his instrumentals are very mediocre, his lyrics are just bad and, for someone that talked so much about having "balance" on idol produce, he doesn't know how he should dance for his body type (if that makes any sense).
I kinda feel bad for him because apparently he works really hard on various fields to achieve his goal of being the Lee Soman and BoA of China but I truly believe that he won't ever make it, he doesn't have an interesting enough product to offer to the global market and there's only so much he as a solo artist can achieve…
Then I remember he's rich and will end up retiring from the idol life with a secured job as a producer or something and I go back to not caring at all.
I find him funny not in a "I know how to make people laugh" kind of way but more like he's an amusing old man to watch. But the thing that picked my interest about him was how passionate he is about his career, how extremely hardworking he seems to be and his creative process (even if these two get completely wasted in the end).
>not only that but it's obvious that he gets all these perks because SM doesn't want to look completely xenophobic and don't want any more chinese legal issues
I don't think SM cares so much about that, I believe they just use him to secure some cash in China until they can debut their next m group.
Also, tinfoil hat on, but I thought that maybe SM wants to debut NCT China under Lay's studio since they can't really do anything there for god knows how long and moreover, nct 127, Lay and Jason Derulo (lol) are having a collab sometime this year for Michael Jackson's something something. Since Lay is a somewhat popular figure in China and it's a collab with an American artist on behalf of the king of pop it might be a good opportunity to introduce the NCT brand to the general Chinese public and tie the group's image with Lay's.
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It really is weird how the makeup trends changed for the worse. I wonder if it's just another trend or a permanent thing, since even actors/actresses be looking like clowns too.
It reminds me of this: https://pann-choa.blogspot.com/2018/02/enter-talk-suzy-and-jisoo-in-one-shot.html>Who's Suzy's make up artist ㅡㅡ Why are you killing the lips of such a pretty kid? She/He really sucks
Lmao you can't make this shit up. Suzy looks just fine
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even bighit forgets he exists
search for this image lead me to this, such a tragic story. they're really mistreating his millionaire ass, i'm so sad…
seriously tho, he may score big if he becomes an actor now due to his popularity
ratmys will lie about everything
Beyonce has sold out stadiums and concerts her record is 22 seconds
BTS sold out in 5 mins. Anyway BTS is just a mere kpop band compared to Beyonce who is a household name
Army’s are delusional
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bighit really hit the jackpot with v
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My day was going great until I saw this. Thank you, anon. What's enticing about watching this incel chinned fucker awkwardly shake his dick at the crowd? Are kpop/bts stans that thirsty?
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lol, and armys roleplay that jin has bighit by the balls and does whatever he likes. really makes you think. armys cant even get their story straight, guess thats what happens when you have celebrity personalities that are all fanservice and no truth>>306371
wtf is wrong with this man??
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that's the explanation from this fan, lol he'll easily find a wife who will be thankful no matter what he does with her
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What is it with Kpop idols releasing songs mixed with Spanish? It was nice at first but then it became overrated. Suju just released another Spanish infused song and it's not even good. The old pricks look more plastic now, especially Yesung ew. What a failed attempt to stay relevant.
This is from the comment section:
>>The song somehow feels a little disjointed. Like the hook was inserted after the whole song was written also the choreography doesn't do justice to the slow almost sensual beats of the song at all. Maybe the song will grow on me after repeated listening.
Bitch, if you have to listen 100x for you to like the song, then the song is bad. No more excuses. The same goes for BTS - Idol.
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What the hell…
Also notice the reactions. Jimincel lives up to his name and seems genuinely amused by the scene, while Jin is the only one going "what the fuck" and stopping the autist.
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my favorite part is him grabbing the fans face crazily. he must not of taken his meds that day.
Suzy looks great and honestly Jisoo looks plain and frumpy next to her with that styling.>>306345
I’m so sick of people using misleading stats to prop up BTS. On this
tour which is a joint tour with Jay-Z, yes, Beyoncé didn’t sell that much, most likely because there actually isn’t that much crossover with their fan bases. On her last solo tour, however, she sold 90,000 tickets for one show.>>306371
I hate this retard so much. If this is how he does fan service just imagine how he treats his SO.
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joy unfortunately has a VERY round face
she has lost a lot of weight though and i do think shes pretty but she'll forever be a moon face unless she surgeries it or goes total ana like wendy
I like the thread because exactly for that reason, it isn't mindless. It's serious discussion.
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>>306408>My clothes were revealing that day so it's understandable Taehyung would say that
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Something about her eyes almost looks bulbous.. I remember on Weekly Idol the host were shocked to see her debut picture and her irl bc they looked so different. there's just something about her that makes her face so unattractive to me
the fan who tweeted >>306514
is not the fan who got her hair pulled, it's this girl from a different fansign
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you can really see how she'd look when she got older
Joy looks really cute here (imo) but she definitely benefitted from weight loss and plastuc surgery. I feel like she shouldn’t be marketed as the ‘sexy’ member though since she gives of cute/coquettish vibes. I find it weird how often Joy is sexualized/seen as flirtier ompared to the other members.
The video here made me uncomfortable watching knowing that it actually aired on a variety show and was posted to r/kpopfap. Who is the show’s production team approved of this?
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Seulgi’s new hairstyle is really unflattering. I have yet to see an idol that successfully pulls off blonde aside from Jessica. Speaking of Seulgi, I also have trouble finding her attractive. She’s very cool but her face is so plain and sometimes weird-looking at some angles to me.
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Seulgi's nose used to bother me a lot but I think I just got used to it. It's a bit of a weird shape. Her new hair is awful though, they should've left it as it was, she looks so good with long dark hair.
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EXID’s LE is basically a Gangnam unnie now. It looks like she’s wearing a mask. I hope she can take a break from more procedures.
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She can beat Park Bom at this rate.
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I know, right? Why can't they just switch to good quality wigs like the Kardashian clan did? Better than looking like your hair is going to fall off soon, gif related
it must hurt just existing in her skin
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Lmao stankmys are angery about this article. I think the author saw right through rat monster's fake deep, psudo-intellectual bs, because he's the only on that the author says anything negative about
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How the hell did he develop a blaccent from watching Friends?
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I feel bad for Jinsoul. She went through a jawshave when she didn’t need it, and she’s probably gonna lose her hair by the 30s if she keeps bleaching it. I also find K-pop’s aversion to wigs weird. Are wigs in Korea so poorly-made that people are just better off frying their hair to death?
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With the amount of plastic surgery and skin treatment she's had, it's suprising that Irene still looks so old. You can clearly see the smile lines around her mouth. It doesn't help that she always puts on the autistic demonic baby expression.
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Look at all those shaved jaws, ew. Can't wait til the Kpop idols grow old and their PS start falling apart. Shaving anyone's jaw like that ain't gonna turn out good in the long term.
This is really gross.>>306393
Imagine attempting to justify being assaulted by a kpop idol…
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That is some dorito chin levels of wtf
why do they get so upset when someone assumes bts are heterosexuals lmao. the writer of the article listened to war of hormone, wow, i wonder where he got the idea of bts being straight from.
most of the article is true, the kpop industry is the way it is, people don't have to sugarcoat it for the sake of army. he called them overworked celibates and that's literally what they are.>When asked, the boys scoff at the idea that K-pop idols are contractually banned from having girlfriends or boyfriends (on the basis that a star known to be unavailable to the opposite sex would forfeit fan appeal). "That story [about no-dating clauses] is like the unicorn," says V. "No one has actually seen one." But last month, two stars, HyunA and K'Dawn were indeed sacked by their agency after their relationship was exposed.
cool lie, taehyung.
“If you lived in our shoes, you’d quickly understand,” says Min, who has a history of depression and obsessive-compulsive disorder.
LMAO this author gives no fucks. I love it. I bet ARMYs want bighit to sue him, eh?
He or she was wrong about one thing though,
“When the boys dance in their T-shirts, there is never a glimpse of abs; there are leather trousers, but no crotch-grabbing or pelvis-grinding.”
Jungkook took over for jimin when it comes to showing abs and they do a lot of crotch thrusting. At least, they did in the past. I remember seeing one of their Japanese performances and the choreo was basically them humping the air for the whole chorus.
Why would you take an obvious joke so seriously? Go back to your therapist and ask them to up your meds, retard
We all know BTS are getting that pussy paid for on a silver platter, whether they have time to date secretly or not doesn’t even matter
Not having time to date =\= being celibate, especially in a culture where working overtime can easily mean sharing the same norebang hooker with your boss, lest you lose that promotion coming down the line.
Fans’ obsession with thinking their faves are pure and innocent is so fucking weird. Like, all signs in reality point to them being anything but? It would be cool if the western press would not also push that ridiculous narrative.
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Buahahahahahahahaha. British media is brutal and gives no fucks. Love it!
im just waiting for a real confirmed list of all the idols who are "sponsored" aka prostituting themselves to come out
i remember one came out a few years back but it was more or less discredited and faded away
g.na surely wasnt the only one
this article was great. the author is /ourguy/, we should invite him to the thread lmao. it was also a bit more thought provoking than i thought it would be… thanks for the link, anon.>>306741>"That story [about no-dating clauses] is like the unicorn," says V. "No one has actually seen one."
it actually made me double take that V used a somewhat clever metaphor lmao. this thread made me forget that he isnt literally an autistic manchild with 10 IQ lol
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She looks seriously retarded here.
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my boys are NOT celibates because taekooknamyoonjinseokmin is real and they are banging every night.
but seriously, i think the author of the article called them overworked celibates because like you said, that's how they are trying to look like, that's how they please the psycho fans who think they are going to marry them. there is no way they actually think "we can't date because we practice 50 hours every day. we aren't aware of how much money we will lose if one of us dates and makes it public, guys. we don't have dating bans. no one wants to date us anyway"
British press is condescending and patronizing… news at 11!!!
This isn’t Korea where insane libel and slander laws mean journalists and writers can only say nice things about their subjects. Welcome to the west, sometimes people say how they really feel.
Lolcows: “Korean beauty standards are too harsh!!!! They are so unhealthy and starving themselves!!!”
Also lolcows: leaves comments like this one
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She's had those lines and nasolabial folds~ since she was a teenager so I think it's just genetic. >>306930
'Cause dressing grown women up like little girls is sexy, duh
This was already posted 3 threads ago but it’s still a good read.>>306934
Jesus does her shirt say “do something special and for unforgettable”? I’m triggered
Oh yeah, the jawshave is also obvious. The extreme hair bleaching is so unnecessary because imo she's pretty enough to "afford" not going through unnatural hairdyes just to stand out (especially because Loona has got some bland looking girls, and they all kept their natural hair). Plus it only looks good in very filtered photos/videos, in candids it looks yellow and brassy. Shame, because from the picture you posted I can see healthy, thick looking hair and now it's so damaged…>Are wigs in Korea so poorly-made that people are just better off frying their hair to death?
I don't think that's the reason, it's not like they can't just import wigs from good quality brands.
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Continuation. ARMYs both Korean and not still at it harassing this news anchor posting their bullshit in his replies. Here's another compilation.
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These come from a post about a deadly car crash with twenty victims.
ARMYs thought this was appropriate.
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The next few caps feature this one ugly af ARMY wishing death on him.
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In a post about a hurricane…she's back
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One more with a death wish
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Standard ARMY racism
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And finally cult confirmed. This dude is 51.
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they need to fuck off, they really do. don't they have anything better to do with their lives? huge respect to gibson for not giving a fuck about these stupid bitches
He didn't say anything inherently racist at ALL. As someone who used to be apart of this brainwashed cult, when BTS were bombarded with criticism, I felt attacked and like I needed to protect them for some fucking reason. I wasn't the kind of fan who harassed people, but I did lurk on stan twt. I couldn't understand why people would talk negatively about them at all, and I never saw myself capable of criticizing them until last year.
They're doing this because Big Hit + BTS put it in their heads that they're the protectors of BTS, forming some kind of fictional relationship. Not only that, but the power fans felt when Big Hit said they could send defamation so that person could be sued.
I'm not shocked they're reacting like this, and I'm not shocked that their racism (and internalized racism for Black POC) is showing as well.
were they black?
i literally only see black girls wearing bts stuff here its so weird
Latin American girls especially from Chile love Kpop
(Not that anon but it’s not only black girls)
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I am so embarrassed for my people
Who knows. I got into Big Bang and TVXQ during the glory days. Before that, I bought an H.O.T album during jr high and it was pretty good. I don't know what's going on with kpop now. It really peaked.
And I honestly cannot see why people obsess over BTS so much. I don't get it
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jcunt looks like he could be hyuna's grandma
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not the same anon but since the other doesn't want to come through with the pics, i got u
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he's so ugly smh
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LMFAOOOO tf are these clown shoes! might as well wear heels and be done with it, damn.
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it's probably up with the shoes but jimin looks the tallest after namjoon and jhope there. i also noticed him looking taller than yoongi and jungkook sometimes. is jimin getting taller
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Big Hit says he injured himself while doing "gentle stretching", but that doesn't make sense to me. I wonder what actually happened.
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Apparently BTS is now capable of changing the English language. https://twitter.com/msbeatrice_81/status/1030506495002202112
I don't understand why armys resist the truth that BTS is just another dime-a-dozen kpop group that is currently filling the boyband void left by 1D. They always have to be ~*unique*~ and ~*ahead of the big 3!*~
I didn't even recognize him, he looks terrible without any styling, even worse than your average guy on the street.
I guess this confirms Hyuna and E-Dawn are out of the company, cause I doubt they'd be allowed to post this if they had actually been forgiven.
I think idols feel obligated to cry in certain situations whether it's natural or not, so it is fanservice in a way but also they'd get shit on if they didn't get emotional over, say, winning their first music show. And it makes sense that when they do special concerts etc they want the fans to feel important/appreciated.
Kinda loses it's impact if they do it too much though, like the idol who cried wolf.
Idols always seem to get the weirdest injuries, fairly frequently too. How often do you think their injuries are caused by the staff.
Abuse is apparently a common practice in the idol industry, Jay Park even spoke about it once, and there was that video where in the background, it looked like a manager was threatening to hit Jungkook.
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What the fuck lol
it's just time asia
, anon. not actual time.
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Lmao I know they where stockier predebut, but could you imagine those two twinky twigs fighting.
Kek who would win?
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Sage for double posting
but when I looked up suga predebut pics alot of photos from this weird photoshoot came up an they're kind of funny
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This is from the article about k-pop not being popular someone posted earlier - I'm just fucking baffled by their style choices lmao. Like aren't boy bands usually supposed to look good together and have consistent clothing choices so they actually look like a group? Like you've got a few of them wearing classy clothes, then loose ratty clothes, some jeans and some sweatpants, then you got ratman wearing a fucking Hawaiian shirt. Lol they just look like a mess, nothing matches or fits
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we already discussed the ugly outfits they wore to the bbmas a couple threads ago
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Who dressed him like a japanese kindergartener
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Despite wearing those ugly thick soles kek
LOOK LINE UP INSPO:
J-Hope: One Direction circa 2011
Jimin: Gay flight attendant
Suga: "Dad's got a day off work but is going out to run errands" casual
Jin: Chinese restaurant waitor
Jungkook: Six year olds first school disco
V: "I had to rush to this event straight from school without changing"
RM: Your 48 year old uncle trying to look 'hip' on a holiday
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These looking like the fucking soles bart Simpsons had. Jesus christ I'm horrified.
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Korean fashion gets so much praise but I don't get it, they often wear some cute pieces but look like homeless people most of the time
I understand how K-pop can be appealing to teenagers and young adults but I don't understand how people over 35 get into the fandom craze. Stan bullshit is already cringy but it's even more painfully cringy when grown ass adults do it.>>307823
I never understood the "Taehyung is the most handsome man alive!!" thing. He just looks like an average dude to me, or maybe it's just his dumbness ruining everything idk. He is so unlikeable personality-wise
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"explosion of popularity in the US recently". ”great popularity right after BTS”
So NCT payola media appearances in US were to manufacture an illusion of popularity for whom? korean public? investors fed up with the project? western media?
Voicing support for a cause and then later saying “that’s not what I meant” is going back on your word.
Who cares if his opinions deep down didn’t change? He let fame and pressure from bigots take back one of the few actually progressive statements he’s ever made. He cares more about the press than doing the right thing. Suga easily said something supportive and made RM look like a weak asshole.
Maybe if SM spent more resources on reviving Exo's dying career instead of trying to make Exo Lite into BTS Lite they wouldn't be falling behind so hard right now. You'd think with decades of experience and endless connections and investors they'd come up with something less embarrassing than NCT's discography, Super Junior's flopping recent releases, Lay's godawful American debut, etc
The only thing they almost did right recently was that Lil' Touch song but they didn't even let Oh!GG promote it for some fucking reason
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The exciting conclusion (hopefully!) to ARMYs vs Kendis Gibson
IE: Toddlers who wear diapers vs A late night anchor who couldn't care less.
Starting with: A tweet about a major hurricane with ARMYs posting…
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And than finally 51 year old Professor Dipshit (from fucking South Korea)manages to invoke both Lincoln and Martin Luther King Jr. in one sentence in an effort to call Gibson, an uneducated immigrant who doesn't understand racism.
He goes on to claim that there is a "black mark" on Gibson's career and that he won't be able to escape ARMYs in the future. He calls for a halt to the harassment after realizing it make's his chosen fandom look like assholes.
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And some people haven't been impressed with display including this chick.
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And to finish up, the credentials of the man that ARMYs have been dragging 2 weeks
straight. Seems like he's pretty well qualified to distinguish fluff from important news.
These tweets are fucking stupid and he's just contradicting himself. I don't understand why he felt the need to drop Lincoln and Martin Luther King's names there. And what does Gibson being an immigrant from Belize has to do with anything?>Furthermore, he has to confront ARMYs, wherever he goes, whatever he does since ARMYs are everywhere on this planet. I think that's enough punishment for his rude, ignorant behavior.
Wow, I'm sure he feels so threatened by the existence of the most stupid fanbase ever. They are obnoxiously loud in the internet but literally no one cares about them in real life. No one takes armys seriously. >'Haters gon' hate. Players gon' play. Live a life, man, yeah. Good luck!'
These lines could be said for armys rather than Gibson lmao
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aww poor baby
That's not what happened. I've seen the video, she's a staff member and those screenshots are not in order. She didn't want to be on camera since they were filming a Bangtan Bomb and jungkook teased/grabbed her when she tried to run to hide from the camera.
It's very odd that there's people out there who intentionally make false shit like this just to paint a fantasy. It reminds me of the fake subs on Jimin's videos
On Stan twt in general they're seen like every previous large dominating fandom. Beliebers, Onedirectioners, Gaga's monsters, etc. On Kpop Stan twt it's the same but with a bigger pinch of bitterness and hatred towards them. Similar to how the exols were seen in 2014-2015, or ELFs before them.
Basically, they're seen the same way every large crazy mainstream fandom has been seen since forever. People who act like it's unique or special are 14 year old newbies who aren't old enough to remember H.O.T and G.O.D fandoms have bloody mob fights during mixed concerts.
I honestly doubt it was an army who did it since it doesn't fit with the image they force on jungkook all the time and it's clear if this actually happened jungkook would be in trouble
I don't remember what the video was but it I find it I'll link you, I remember it was one of their early ones before they started blurring out and muting all the staff members. It's really weird to watch one of the old videos and then one of the new ones and see how they used to show them interacting with the staff, hearing the staff laugh outloud about their stupidity, seeing the staff walk around etc. Nowadays those parts get cut out and the faces get blurred and even the staff's side of the dialogue muted.
God knows what kind of stalking those staff members go through when they get recognized…
Question, but why do fans consider idols as 'woke"? From what it seems from the stuff posted here, they are quite sexist at times, and their industry leaves much to be desired in terms of creating an equal, respectful and fair environment. I'm guessing it's going to be some superficial reason like "oppa/hyung wears makeup he's breaking the gender norms!" Yet in Europe anyway, we are used to male popstars wearing makeup and they actually wrote their own music, sang what they wanted and got married, slept with both men and women without people calling for them to be dropped by their agency, were political. What exactly has BTS been allowed to do that is actually progressive? Don't see them talking about who they vote for, using their influence to draw attention to the high rates of suicide and bullying within their profession. In that clip where one member pulled a woman's hair, which is physical assault, the member next to him was the only one to step in to get him to stop, and all the fans seem to justify the poor behaviour rather than recognise it as -problematic
Because they're "poc" and all poc are supposed to be woke - unlike white artists, so it doesn't matter if european singers would actually be better, more "stan-worthy", or not.
Plus, many kpop fans are former weebs who have a boner for everything asian and therefore excuse any behavior.
I always just assumed it was fans projecting their own political beliefs and ''wokeness''on to them. They can use the argument to justify their own fangirling as well as push the narrative that BTS are the perfect group to stan.
As far as I know noone in BTS has ever involved themselves in politics, not even when all of Korea was against President Park Gyen Hye.
I feel like a lot of American republicans had their world come crashing down when Taylor Swift announced she was supporting a democrat, I can only hope bts fans will experience the same when it's revealed that the majority of the BTS members are classic anti-gay/against abortion/racist conservative Koreans.
same anon, i just remembered seeing some idols including bts on that show "hello counselor", most of them didn't appear feministic or understanding of the women's problems, yet their fans didn't really care, so… >>308139
is their line meant for korea only? still stupid of bighit or whoever is responsible to first market in the us and then say "fuck you" to their international fans like that.
As far as I know both Suga and RM have made predebut (or was it mixtape?) songs directly about politics, but it seems like they don't really do that with BTS itself (with the song Silverspoon being an exception, but maybe that one's more socioeconomical "reee boomers" type instead of political) the only other time I've seen them get even remotely political was when they posted on twitter about voting and they got endless praise on Korean media for… doing the bare minimum.
Funnily enough, that Billboard magazine interview did ask them about politics and mentioned a few early songs I don't remember the name of, and RM said that now they have a young impressionable audience so they try not to force their own political views on them. To me that sounds a bit like they know their audience won't like most of their views.
Majority of Kpop fans are Tumblr-raised Gen Z internet activists, making their flavor of the month idol seem woke = instant approval and fame in the stan sphere.
This is why you have idiots like loona fans treating them like saviors of the lesbians and legendary queer activists when they're really just queerbait dressed in school girl outfits for deranged twitter queers who quote RuPaul and 25 year old men who jerk off to lesbian hentai.
I read azelia banks twitter thread of her shitting on lana del rey and some lunatic fans would randomnly write things like>anyways, guys stan loona>loona is gonna have a comeback soon!!!
Like whut?? >>308153
This would be great lol
>>308151>deranged twitter queers who quote RuPaul and 25 year old men who jerk off to lesbian hentai.
You perfectly described most anime and K-pop fans.>>308158
I’m not even a fan of LOONA but even I wouldn’t wish for the members to go into debt. As annoying as their fans and as questionable as the concepts are, most k-pop groups who haven’t made it are puppets enslaved by a higher power. The idol life sounds hard for those groups and it’s not like they’re trainees who can leave any time.
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Now Jimin is injured and he’s not going to be on the Graham Norton show. I wonder what’s going on behind the scenes for all these injuries to happen suddenly.
Damn. Figured. But you know hope springs eternal.
I will choose believe to that BTS et al are seeing pros and taking dick pics because it's just funnier that way.
Dang. As bad as this sounds, hearing idols get injured has basically been normalized so it’s not surprising.
Member A from group B fainted and can’t perform for some time? Dang, that sucks. Member A from group B might be dating member C from Group D? RRRRRRRREEEEEEEEE OMO H-how could oppar betray me like this?!?!? I hope he never has a career again!
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That outfit looks tacky but Hyuna can get away with dressing like that cuz she’s cute and famous. The average K-pop fan would not be able to pull that off.
Speaking of Hyuna, her taste in guys is so questionable. E’Dawn looks like a twink-y crackhead and Hyunseung does too. Hyuna and Hyunseung as Troublemaker came off more tryhard than sexy.
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What's wrong with Chungha's face? She was pretty in i.o.i
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Kpop stars usually start adding on the ps after the 5 year mark now everyone is getting more shit done before a comeback
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Both pictures are pretty bad, but this one in particular highlights how plastic his lips and upper lip region look. If I didn’t know it was Jhope I would have thought it was a woman or G-dragon.
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>tvN variety show 'Salty Tour' is penalized for airing an inappropriate scene breaking gender equality rules.
>on October 10, the Korea Communications Standards Commission held an official meeting in Seoul to discuss the problematic scene on 'Salty Tour'. The show deemed to have violated the laws on gender equality, maintenance of dignity, and more. KCSC ultimately decided to penalize the affiliates of tvN, OtvN, and XtvN for airing the segment
And of course all the fans are saying "Seungri did nothing wrong".
The majority don't even understand the cultural meaning behind that scene and why it's degrading and offensive, and the minority of fans who did catch the meaning are saying it's not Seungri's fault because poor babby is just following the script(he isn't)
The disgust on the girl from that scene's face is very relatable right now
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i literally cant tell most of this generations idols apart and this is why
a different face for every comeback but somehow they're all just morphing into eachother
What do you guys think of this?>>https://www.kpopmap.com/nct-mark-victim-of-racist-comments-on-us-show/>>During the interview [all in English], the host of the show was asking about a birthday present and the conversation ended up like below.
>>Host: And you are from Canada?
>>Mark: Yes, Vancouver
>>Host: Very cool, your English is awesome. I love it. Very cool
>>She was basically praising his English.
>>Fans criticized the host for an “unprofessional” attitude and “racist” comments.
I think the fans need to calm their damn tits.
>>308341>HaeChan‘s face seen on screen on the back was saying much of the situation
that bitch doesn't speak english, how would he know what they were talking about? telepathy?
but whatever, it was just a microaggression. I haven't seen anyone urging her to apologize or anything, so I don't care.
Fans are justified in thinking she was being a little
racist/ignorant. It shouldn’t be made into a huge deal though.>>308339
Jesus Christ, TWICE is being overworked. I keep forgetting they’re only a two year-old group. Also you can really tell by their songs that it’s all about quantity > quality.
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The press says he stole the spotlight by looking like a chaebol's son, but to me he looks like a Japanese macaque
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You can’t tell me this doesn’t look like someone’s aunt in a funeral
They need to tone down the lipstick
lmao. Gibson said "they're a boy band from korea" which was apparently racist and xenophobic, but he had to include the "immigrant from Belize" into his tweet. Aren't those pretty much same thing? Both are on same level (of neutral, imo), with ARMY logic that could also be racist.
Boy band from Korea. Immigrant from Belize.
(of course I know that as a whole army has been actually racist calling him the n word and all, just this one tweet from this person is super funny in it's irony)
He also hints that he is not well educated but says he will forever have "black mark" in his career.
So funny when BTS ridiculous behaviour in the past has been brushed under the rug "because they didn't know!!".
Apparently BTS not being educated and doing and saying racist shit or posing at holocaust memorial does not matter because it's in the past uwu. The crap BTS has done have been 100x worse than this guy saying "boy band from korea" anyway
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So I saw this on Twitter. I get fans want to include Jonghyun in things, actually I don't even know how to justify this. Maybe I'm overreacting but this is just disturbing af.
This is so disrespectful. The fact he was bashed for dating and now the fans are parading this "gay" bullshit on him. Let him rest in peace for fucks sake
Life on mars(or any other planet) needs to be established so we can dumb all these dumb fans, racist korea and bts there
I feel like shipping is forcing the whose gay/lesbian sexuality on other people who aren't bout that life. I also used to be a fan but the more I started distancing myself from kpop, I could see through the bullshit. Idols also contribute to this shit and with that their fans would this its right to ship and its real since the idols do fan service by feeding into the ships
I don't understand why international fans get so pressed when an idol dates and they are in a culture where there are many artists that date as they wish. I understand if its K-fans but that's bullshit, its selfish. Idols should do an agreement where everyone reveals they are dating at once so their fans will have no choice but to accept it. Problem solved
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If the places were reversed and a white celebrity paid a bunch of half naked asian girls to play props at his party kpop stans would scream racism, sexism, fetshism whatever…
Oh my god this is awful, and it's such a disrespectful thing to do about a person who commited suicide. I don't understand what made them think that this was appropriate.
Shipping real people disturbs me in general. Most of the time you see that it makes people uncomfortable. They'll say "Well how do you know they are not together? What if it's real and they are closeted? They need our support!!" as if it's any better to obsess over a real life relationship that has nothing to do with you. They see the people they ship as fanfiction characters who solely exist to fit into their fantasies and don't see them as real human beings at all. Fuck all your ships
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I don't know if it's just me, but when idols get so much PS they remind me of characters from Final Fantasy and similar, where whoever designs them does their best to just put together all the features considered "attractive" and feminine so the characters end up looking all the same, uncanny valley territory.
I can't bring myself to find them attractive. When a face is too perfect it becomes boring to me.
it's hilarious how much kpop fans contradict themselves with situations like this, especially armies. before when nana (after school) scored high on that tccandler list, everyone and their mothers screeched about how it wasn't reputable and an obvious flub (which it is, where did it even come from??) but now suddenly when their oppars are winning and scoring high, it's "reputable" and "clearly a true representation" of what the people like. lmfaoooo>>308608
i hateeee the "ombre" thing they do with lip tint. i've tried it and it looks terrible without all the lighting and filters, especially when you use concealer or smth. it's all patchy and dry looking, even when you put lipgloss on top. i can automatically spot a kboo in real life when i see that shit, because no normal person would put that on in the morning and be like "yeah, that looks good" and keep that tragedy on their face.
When rat started with his little speech I had to close the video, god the criiiiinge. I can't keep listening to this idiot anymore.
Also, fucking SHUT UP, stupid bitches on the audience. I hate fangirls so much… Sorry I hate screaming.
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"So girls are into this now?"
That's the most annoying thing out of BTS. They are such pussies, in all this interviews they get constantly interrupted or the host does, is it so hard to educate your fans a little on being respectful?
I remember that instagram post from Chanyeoul of EXO, when he called his fans out for creating an accident or something like that at an airport. Do you think any of them got mad? no, so why can't BTS call ARMY out a bit more? so annoying…
Screaming is all good until one of them complains and I can bet anything that the rest of the ARMY will shit on those fans for "screaming over their oppas". They won't get mad at them.
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Same anon same. I understand that you're happy to see them or whatever but get over yourself, sometimes you can't even hear what BTS members are saying because of the fans obnoxiously screaming at their any move, calm your hormones, army.
I will give huge props to BTS or Bighit if they ever call out army on their bullshit but it's probably never going to happen. BTS and their company being so passive towards armys doesn't help with their psycho behavior at all. It's like army and BTS are in a toxic relationship where they keep fucking each other up yet can't leave because one needs the other to fulfill their fantasies and the other needs them to milk out any money they can at this point.
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Tiffany’s gross anachan legs and too thick waist being spotted on Instagram again.. I wish she would just stop and eat, no matter how much she starves herself, she’s still gonna have a heavy upper half and if anything, chopstick legs only make it look worse
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Their insistence on small heads and faces is so incongruous with all the chin alterations and jaw shavings to me, since those procedures elongate the face visually (or literally with some of those spooky implants).
Pic semi-related-but-also-unrelated because Selena apparently has a tiny ass head based on the other images of Rose and Jisoo looking cranially proportional next to other non-Korean celebrities
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Lol me too, I started noticing after someone shared this photo on an older thread. Damn, I don't know if Ivanka has a really small face but you can still tell how big headed they are.
Looks like Cinderella and her ugly twin step sisters.>>308892
They have big heads but small bodies. That's weird
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Finally had time to watch that interview, and lord, nothing could prepare you for the cringe…
First of, V simply has to be retarded, he's staring of in the space the whole time…? What are they wearing? Since then is saying "bloody" considered a British thing? And Jungkook looks like he has no idea who Whoopi is after she gave him her shirt.
Just look at them, she is black, the other 3 are white and still they look somewhat similar. Meanwhile BTS look like aliens.
>The guy who was closest to bts was not having it. Is it just me or he just looks a bit bitter?
>That guy does realise he's sitting beside the legendary J-Hope.. Right?….
Well, he's an adult male, why would he like them?
>1:49 christian grey getting ready to ask hoseok to go into his red room
>Found a person that look at you like Jamie look at Hoseok😍 they're so cute♡
They either don't bother looking up who the other guests are (ironic, considering they always get offended if somebody doesn't now all of bts' names) or they think they must be in love with their oppas.
>I m sad about one thing that is Christian Grey didn't get to meet jimin gray 😔
>Can the MC please look for the answers to his questions cuz at the beginning the fans could’ve answered his question