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Rant about Kpop, its creepy fandoms, and/or its fucked up industry. Or just nitpick some idols.
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am i the only one who thinks taeyeon was ALWAYS overrated look wise?
people are dogging on her plastic surgery but honestly she wasnt particularly pretty to begin with without a ton of makeup
i personally think she was fairly cute during their early years but not a stunning beauty like that of a korean beauty such as jun ji hyun or of the likes. her face is a little too doughy and childish for me to think she was a top beauty, so i do think she was a little overrated especially after her plastic surgery. she's always been just cute/pretty to me; not bad to look at but overrated.
tiffany, jessica, or yoona were way prettier to me than taeyeon.
i was gonna say yuri and seohyun too but i felt like i was just adding a majority of the group at that point LOL. speaking of yuri, it was a shame how much weight she lost, she looked really good at one point.
SNSD stayed getting in i-netz controversies over calling yuri "black pearl" or smth like that and always using a black emoji for her lmaooo
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i hear soyou is having a comeback? will we finally start seeing some idols with meat on their bones promoting again?
she looks pretty next to tiffany here bc the shot of the latter is kind of unflattering rip
anyway i do like her looks but in a cute/pretty way. i find yoona and jessica the most beautiful but then i also find them the most beautiful female idols period, so.
Nah. I’ve alreay seen fans (mainly international fans) make excuses for this. One prominent one is this is Bang PD’s fault and not teh boyz’.
Their popularity will take a hit with the general public in South Korea, but I predict that ARMYs everywhere will overlook this and continue to obsess over them.
yoona and jessica both had shit tier jaws pre jaw shave
but the rest of their features are nice i think yoona has beautiful eyes!
Tfw this actually is a better song than Idol
I like the mv for Idol but the song itself is like the awkward younger sibling of Fire and Not Today. The traditional instruments in the teaser sounded nice, I wish they used it in the real song
agreed, chanyeol is a better vocalist than a rapper.
never understood why every kpop group needs rappers or why every kpop song needs rap, in some songs it just makes you think "was this rap verse even necessary?"
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I looked up pre-debut pictures of Yoona and I think she honestly looked great aside from maybe her nose. She was already so pretty and didn’t need a jawshave. Now her face reminds me of an oddly shaped egg and the skin around her chin area sags so much. Like, her neck looks too lonk compared to the rest of her face now.
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I'm not familiar with SNSD since I got into kpop recently, but I remember seeing said photo on a plastic surgery thread. Yuri is it right? God, look at that sag on her jaw, it's terrible. And it's not the expression on her face, there's a more photos that show how progressively worse it got.
I don’t see anything wrong with her nose here. It’s not big in any way and suits her face. You should be able to breathe through those things, you know.
Honestly she along with most other idols was pretty enough from the start, prettier than many idols that have had tons of procedures. This compulsively destroying idols’ faces seemingly just for the hell of it sends the message that they’re trying really hard to compensate for something they know they’re lacking in. Talent, stage presence, body shape, who cares just cut a little here and there and make them starve and people will have something else to talk about. Sigh.
Whoever makes the decision to put a 14yo under the knife deserves to be shot in the face, no edge or PS joke intended. It’s so fucking vile.
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I feel bad for younger iola nd trainees who get so much work done in their teen years. A lot of procedures don’t age well and so much growth naturally occurs in those teen years. To have chemical injections and bone re-structuring done when you’re fifteen before your natural features can finally settle in is risky.
Anyway, I know that Jessica’s gotten comments about having a really strong jaw pre-debut but I don’t think she needed
the shave either. Her features were already so pretty.
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I don’t get why Koreans insist that Sooyoung is one of the uglier SNSD members along with Hyoyeon and Sunny. Is it because she’s naturally tanner and kept her naturally rounder, squarer jae after debut instead of opting for a v-line? If so, Korea’s beauty standards are really too stupid and narrow. She’s one of the members who was already pretty pre-debut.
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She’s one of the prettiest girls in Kpop imo. She looks doll-like and her eyes are super big and doe-y and beautiful. Putting her on the same level as Hyoyeon and Sunny is shitty.
Anyway, she definitely has the hottest boyfriend among all members (present and past) so I highly doubt she’s considered genuinely homely though.
sunny is one of the ugliest idols period
her nepotism ass made it pretty far in the fandom in the beginning because she could pull off that over the top cutesy and funny fake bullshit they made her do
once she grew out of it though, yikes
she was always considered pretty i thought, and complimented for being thin and tall like a model
iirc the only negative was that she was dark and people would call her thai soo and filipino etc, and referring to a korean as a sea instead of east asian is one of the biggest insults you can make
they did the same thing to luna
thats probably why she fucked herself up surgery, weight and carboxy shots wise and making herself appear as white as possible and ofc koreans now say she looks ~nicer and prettier~
they sure do
some of the most loyal fansites are thai and malaysian
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I don't think lisa looks that bad but I'm saddened that she bleached her skin, I love that her nose doesn't look like michael jackson's though.
I don't find her ugly exactly but really really plain without her brand. I mean there are so many stunning Thai women/girls out there I think her features are really pedestrian. She wouldn't have gotten anywhere if she wasn't really rich.
Btw if she had a modicum of talent the appearance shit could be completely overlooked but she fails in that regard too.
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I agree but I appreciate that she doesn't look like most botched korean idols out there with nosejobs.
Apparently she's a naturally gifted dancer so that might be why she was casted.
I'm in the same boat as you anon. I don't listen to kpop but these days it feels inescapable so I end up having opinions. I agree the beauty standards are shit. The most embarrassing part in my opinion is that all seems to be part of a sort of nationalist overcompensation like "Our women are most beautiful in the world","Our men are the most handsome" "We Koreans have the whitest purest skin". It all comes down to this strange inferiority complex that's both desperate and unattractive.
The fact that they obsess about "visuals" and "proportions" says it all imo.
To contrast, take Japan- which has it's own laundry list of issues ranging from obsessive infantilization to ana-tier body worship- but at least due to "cuteness" being the gold standard and not perfect beauty they don't all buy the same face at the ps office.
I find her really pretty tbh. I know she doesn’t sing or rap very well but she seems to be a genuinely talented dancer from what I’ve seen of her, although I do think she hasn’t been allowed to showcase it enough for anyone to really judge it but that’s on YG’s cheap ass.
I remember a lot of people thought she was white or at least part white when she first debuted. What do you guys think?
To each his own anon. Tbf they style her really well. She doesn't look mixed to me at all especially if you take a look at some of her more natural less flattering pre-debut pictures.
About her ability; She can dance well because she's has years of expensive private lesson but she doesn't have any kind of natural gift for it if that makes sense. A good dancer makes shit look effortless. Lisa makes it look like work.
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maybe its because wendy is the definition of >im just happy to be here
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reminds me of this lol
I guess I thought something new had happened, oh well whatever.
My current pet peeve is watching kpop fans trying to trick themselves into liking their bias groups new music.
They’ll either try to find some tiny thing to praise like “i love that 3 second riff right before it vomits a recycled DDR track all over my ears!”
Or they’ll say stuff like “I listened to it all day yesterday and today and I think it’s finally growing on me, it’s not that bad!” Like they are 6 years old and being forcefed slimy peas.
If you don’t like something you don’t have to force yourself into it!!
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After a jaw shave surgery the skin doesn't shrink to fit the new jaw, it stays the same. If a lot of jaw was shaved, this turns the skin into a weird skin sac that doesn't fit the skull which can end up being worse than what the patient started with. Personally, I'd prefer a strong jaw over a sagging one, but that's just me.
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Kyla lookin crusty as hell in the us. Guess the rumours about her taking a break to lose weight were untrue. Big oof.On one hand i'm happy she seems to be done with the idol shit, but damn.. The effort is nonexistenthttps://www.allkpop.com/article/2018/09/recent-photos-of-pristins-kyla-in-the-us-surfaces-online
some people just have a hard time losing weight and maintaining unfortuntely
i doubt she'll come back unless she develops a full blown starving or purging habit
Those light brown contacts his stylist insists on makes him look like a lizard person>>295942
Maybe the comments about Asians having flat heads?>>295974
It’s amazing she was ever an idol. She seems to fit in well in the US, happy for her honestly
She's probably just dealing with the hormonal shit lots of teens experience that messes with their skin. It's one thing to pick apart an adult who can make their own choices, but it feels weird coming after a teenager who's still under her parents' care.
I hope she doesn't come back because she'll definitely get more hate from Koreans. She's better off growing up and enjoying her life as a regular teen in the US.
There was speculation that she's a lesbian because of her short nails. And by "speculation", I mean someone made a sarcastic comment on her instagram about the length of her nails and the press reported on it, because of course they did. No one thought it was maybe because she plays bass and you can't play bass with long ass nails.
I mean, I WISH she was into women but I've never gotten that vibe from her.
I used to think he hated it but he seems to take it all in stride now
Maybe V hates it because he seems like such a whiny baby and wants to break free into being an actor or photographer or some shit whatever he’s delusional enough to think he’d be good at
I get this feeling that deep down jimin really hates his fans, even his korean ones. Idk I just get a bad feeling about him lol
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i wonder what he would've grown up looking like without all the plastic surgery and the constant use of contacts…
That reminds me of back when people kind of memed about Kris being some kind of dork when it was pretty obvious he didn’t want to be there.
And then there he went. Man, the drama that followed that. Those were some times.
Lol that was such a good time for kpop drama
I remember rumors of people hearing Tao crying from the SM building and “baekhyun getting hit” 😂😂😂
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he lowkey looked like a more asian leafyishere ?
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lmao she says this is a joke but it's so desperate and some fans deadass think like this. him liking troye sivan's music doesn't really prove anything, you don't have to be gay to enjoy a gay artist's music. them seeing bts' interactions with each other as romantic or sexual is funny because all of these interactions are either obviously fanservice or just friends being comfortable around each other.
of course if any of them is actually gay, it's okay but you've seen all of these guys being interested in women countless times lol. jungkook's been super talkative about his fanboy crush on iu since he was a kid. this is the group that made the ultimate heterosexual anthem war of hormone for fuck's sake
I watched a good video a while back that theorised South Korea's obsession with beauty and appearance was created from the entertainment they had after they'd become more developed as a country; it was mostly television and game shows with attractive idols and models and such. I think that's pretty accurate when wondering why they're so obsessed with beauty back there to unhealthy standards. Also makes me think they have an inferiority thing where they always fall back on appearance to seem better than other countries and have some sort of advantage because for a while SK was a very undeveloped country in terms of identity. No wonder so many people kill themselves there honestly. Having a whole country fixated on shallow looks and plastic surgery and perfect looking idols to be influenced from is a recipe for disaster and self hate in its people>>295952
Jesus Christ this is terrifying to scroll down to in a dark room all by yourself lol
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Jimin the lizard person is basically the (un)official face of these threads now, huh?
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If you’re talking about your idols without considering the country/culture they come from then you’re missing a huge part of the puzzle but go ahead, talk about the minuscule details of your faves nose job for the 1000th time.
Maybe there should be two threads, one for people who want to stan and talk about heir faves in a slightly negative way (but can’t elsehwhere because the kpop fandom is so sensitive) and a thread for people who actually want to critique kpop as a whole
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damn bruh, you sound like the bitter one here. if it bothers you so much go somewhere else or just post a picture of some botched idol you think is ugly. it's true that you can't really discuss some topics of kpop without having to look at korean society as whole.>>295950>>295965
either that or they look supremely stupid when they dance. look at e'dawn's crackhead ass dancing when there isn't some show trying to edit the dance to make it look good.https://youtu.be/X0re_qiB5P0
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Another ex koreaboo. Tragic.
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armys hyping up V/taehyung and shilling him as one of the most attractive male idols has to be the funniest thing i've ever seen. he's seriously so ugly and pulls the most retarded faces. for some reason every time i'm subjected to a picture of him i feel like he probably stinks. i guess i'm not the only one, some other idol thought the same thing when she saw him in real life lmaoo.https://pannative.blogspot.com/2017/05/a-female-singer-talks-about-how-she.html
Lmao imagine being such a loser that you can’t stand to hear anything slightly negative about a country that doesn’t give a fuck about you. Can’t relate!
You just want to stan under the guise of being critical so you can fake a feeling of superiority over other fans. You didn’t like your faves outfit one time? Wow, so critical, so brave, you really need an anon board to express such a bold opinion.
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Anon confess. Tell us your truth.
>Femcel travels to Korea>Blue hair and a buzz cut>Thinks everyone is gonna love her because she is so different and not like other girls>Koreans fin her fat and ugly>Now spends all day ranting about how awful and backwards is korean society while she eats the third burger of the day.>Tragic
You’ve clearly never been to Asia.
Even the ugliest and fattest of western girls get boatloads of attention, praise, and guys going after them in those countries. Just stop trying, you have no idea what you’re talking about.
Oops, forgot to clarify. I know she's Thai; I was wondering if you guys thought she /resembled/ a white girl like people used to comment on before lol
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“And he has a clean and beautiful feet. Everybody know that.“
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what? you don't like this anon? kek
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this discussion of BTSs feet reminded me of this for some reason
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What the hell, dude's a freak. Short as hell, skinny as ALL hell and also has clown feet lol.
Also anon I hate you for making search yoongi feet on Google. Time to delete my browser history of this cancer.
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you know what they say about dudes with big feet, anons.
speaking of which, when i saw this chart on /g/ i immediately thought of this thread lol. no idea how accurate it is, but a lot of dudes in kpop do seem like theyre constantly compensating for something……
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Idk if it's because I'm high but his face looks so effed up in this gif.
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i hate myself for scrolling all the way down
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What's up with armys being pressed at Jungkook not being an uwu baby boy anymore lol
>>296280>Does anyone else have a problem with fans referring to idols by their real names?
Not really. A lot if not most idols use their given names as stage names anyway, so if the stage name were to create some form of boundary then where would that leave them? Regardless of whether idols use stage names a lot of their nicknames tend to be derived from their real names anyway, so in that case that should be even more intrusive but it’s completely normalized within the industry.
I agree that fans trying to act all intimate and buddy-buddy with idols like they know them IRL is kind of cringey but at the end of the day harms no-one and rather plays into the idol’s favor since a happy fan means yet another stan to buy albums and stream music to fuel their lifestyle.
Doesn't really bother me. IMO that kind of thing depends on how closely they tie their public image to their stage name. Like in this anon's example >>296282
I didn't even know Nicki Minaj's real name for years because she presents herself entirely under the name Nicki Minaj, whereas many idols refer to each other casually by their real names. People rarely call Taehyung "V", so I don't feel weird calling him Taehyung.
Yeah I knew these kboos who insisted on calling all idols by their real names, I cringed everytime I heard “hoseeuhk” and “tayhung”
It’s not convenient if you can’t even make your mouth form the correct sounds. What a lying cop out way to defend real koreaboo behavior
It’s honestly even beyond that now. BTS stan twitter and Tumblr is full of people who only refer to them by their designated fan pet names, like “Tae” and “Gguk”
I think so much of it comes from fan fiction culture or trying to emulate what K-fans do.
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you forgot lil meow meow anon LMAO
speaking of armys, how are taehyung/V's fans gonna edit his hair like this when they know damn well he has an entire football field for a forehead
I’m sure there are millions of kpop fans around the world who butcher their real korean names out loud in misguided attempts to sound more authentic. Not to mention the fact that romanized Hangul is wildly insufficient.
V is way easier to type than taehyung which doesn’t even accurately depict what his name actually sounds like. There is no reason for I-fans to not use V, or RM, or rapmon, all of which are easier to type/say than namjoon. No reason to type seokjin, letters that don’t even sound anything like his real name, over Jin, yet loser armys across the internet do it anyway. There is no logical reason to do it, it just makes y’all feel better.
i literally thought that was kris from exo
anyways ik it was talked about earlier on in the thread but i'm hoping that the "damage control" (vandalizing the bighit building with post-its and spamming the fancafe with WW2 and rants) that kfans are doing for BTS collabing w/ the Jap nationalist won't work hhh
I can't wait for korea to just blacklist BTS/Bighit and hopefully the same will happen here in America…forgetting Kpop ever existed bc just like their fans say "BTS paved the way."
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>>296358>anyways ik it was talked about earlier on in the thread but i'm hoping that the "damage control" (vandalizing the bighit building with post-its and spamming the fancafe with WW2 and rants)
yoooo holy shit is this real?? LMFAO if there's pics or articles please post the tea thank you
They do it because Kfans do it.
But it makes sense for Koreans to revert back to their real korean names, instead of strange bastardized konglish names that make no sense to them. Of course it’s easier for K-fans to type/say names that actually exist in their everyday lives. Not to mention you can hardly fantasize someone is your boyfriend when you have to call them “jayee hopuh oppa” or whatever lmao
International fans though? They are just trying to feel like they’re a part of the in crowd too. But as we went over in the last thread, your idols don’t consider you real fans anyway.
"the boys aint that stupid to support that neo nazi. the boys know better."
hhh i'm so glad i left those delusional ass fandoms. it's just like when bts did a whole photoshoot at a holocaust memorial. maybe i should post those pictures under bts posts for fun and freshen armys memories.
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I’ve never quite understood the hype Suzy gets from K-pop fans and the public in Korea. They always make her out to be some ethereal goddess and of of the top visuals of her era. She’s pretty but very vanilla. In my opinion, she can’t hold a candle to Fei when it comes to looks (but Koreans probably don’t seem fond of Fei cuz she’s Chinese and tan, unfortunately).
This whole streaming obsession is so stupid, everyone knows these numbers don't represent the actual number of people BTS is reaching. I understand that they are trying to break records but 10 random people listening the song once is more valuable than the same 1 fan listening to the same song 10 times.
I hope something like that never happens to anyone but I'm afraid army's stupidity might cause something really bad one day. Some of them don't realize that they are damaging their oppars and uwu baby boys more than anyone else
>>296418>tweet openly about cheating the system on a pretty impressive scale>uhmm guys if any reporters want to talk about this stuff DON'T talk to them they'll TWIST YOUR WORDS and make us out to be CHEATERS
Thanks for posting this anon, gave me a laugh.>>296420
Yeah, this stuff only harms BTS. The more they're puffed up in the media as "global artists" (using Spotify numbers as proof etc) the more humiliating it's going to be when it becomes clear that only their fans know who they are, and they fade back into obscurity. As compared to everyone and their dog knowing Gangnam Style. In the UK we had fucking Ed Balls dancing to it on Strictly, people dancing to it at their weddings, etc. That's the kind of popularity with the general public BTS will never achieve.
Sorry to rant a bit more, but part of me wishes that they could just be a popular group in SK/Asia and among Kpop fans, but having the BTS-as-global-megastars hype is setting a standard for them that I just don't believe they can live up to. It's the difference between them having a good career by any normal standard and being set an immensely high standard of "global megastars" that they can't achieve and by THAT standard being a failure. Seems a shame.
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lmao who in bighit even thought that these stage names were good ideas and actually suggested them
>>296435>Names like Baby J and Kid were some options
I'm shuddering at the thought of a grown ass man having those names and how his creepy fans would twist that around for their weird fetishes. But then I remember that it happens anyway
>I'm pretty when I smile and because I'm sweet>My name has the deepest meaning
Holy shit get over yourselves lmao. Don't strain your hand from jerking off your intellectual selves too hard
This highlights what it means to be a Kpop stan. Fans are basically pressured to stream and vote for stupid shit that don't matter in the long run. If the GP don't like you, then the GP don't like you.
So, it's always funny to me when BTS performs they get "genuine" tweets about who certain members are. No one cares for them here, they aren't a household name.
the way kpop companies have kpoppies snatched by the balls seriously amazes me every time. think about it: we all know the physical album business is dying, and that's what makes artists and companies a good amount of money outside of touring. streaming doesn't do jack shit for them. so they get their stupid rich (sometimes not even rich–just stupid) fans to care about irrelevant charts and titles that convinces them to buy a shit ton of albums just to get them to the top of that chart. sometimes these fans buy them in the bulk, whether it's 10, 30, or 500.
shoot, haven't exo-ls and armies managed to get EXO and BTS to "over" a million album sales just from their bulk buying?
and kpop companies know just a CD won't work, because barely anybody uses them, so they stuff them with a bunch of merchandise like a photo book and cards and stickers and shit. and they make each one individualized by each member of their big ass groups, so fans feel the need to buy a bunch of albums just to get the one they want, since companies make sure not to make it possible to choose which one you'd want a majority of the time.
sorry for the thesis ya'll, i just had to get this out, anytime i think about how much these kpop companies have finessed the physical album business it gets me going LMAO
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This woman looks in her 40s. Older BTS fans are really pathetic.
>>296459>there is an easier to write/pronounce option handed to fans on a silver platter and they choose to instead butcher Korean names and act like it’s just ~easier? Embarrassing.
Agreed, that's what I was thinking as well. I used to study Korean so I understand what you mean. I agree that "Jeongguk" or "Taehyung" aren't the easiest names to pronounce for someone who doesn't speak Korean, I said it's normal that non-Koreans are having trouble pronouncing their real names, but it's weird when these fans constantly hear the correct pronunciations in videos where members talk with each other, yet still pronounce their names wrong.
I saw some video where a shipper was trying to analyze Taehyung and Jeongguk to prove that Taekook is real. She went really deep, went through so many details and obviously watched tons of videos to find proofs, but she was pronouncing their names completely wrong lol. It's funny that they think they know everything about them when they can't even pronounce their names correctly
its weird because shes super pretty to me but she also has such a western look to her
she looks like a white girl to me
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v said this and it became a phrase
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how did they manage to get progressively more retarded looking damn.https://twitter.com/holybangtan/status/1040901250114453505
this actually makes me upset IMO
I became a fan during hyyh and I really liked the music they were putting out and they all looked average. Now they look like lizards and their music is no longer basic shit everyone can enjoy but its just loud horse shit that includes the vocal line (Jimin + Jin) screaming. The only competent performer is hoseok but he fucked up his face so…
I wonder how much dirt dispatch has on bighit and bts. With all these scandals with bts and the Japanese collab, I hope dispatch just spills the beans already
With Army's expired victim card will not help them if those scandals are proven true>>296536
I've been listening to other less popular groups like Astro/SF9 and I've come to realize that these bands among many others can outperform any bts member in vocals and dance area
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samefag; it was taemin with jimin but it looks like he was just vaping.
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this reminded me of you guys
is that lay?
man what happened
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found this shit recommended on tumblr
now bts has ruined Heathers for me
Just read the whole thread. Saesangs are creepy as shit.
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Agreed. Not really creepy, just a sad, desperate fangirl trying to see the boybander she likes in person and then staring him. I think chances are pretty high that she made it up anyway. The only thing I found disturbing was the fact that she was willing to drop $800 to get a glance at precious Jungkook.
Pic was hilarious though.
I went to a kpop concert this year alone(plz no roast) and while in line I was stuck talking to a saesang (I later found her social media and it checked out). She had been to every stop at the tour and apparently found out which flights the group was going to be on (through saesang sites) and booked seats for herself. She bragged about essentially harassing them in the airportLike she legitimately thought she was flirting with one of the members.
She told me about how she was passing a note to the member she harassed (said that he started it lol) and then got in trouble when the member told a flight attendant to get her to leave him alone. It was an incredibly bizarre experience. Everything she said about essentially stalking them she twisted to make it sound like the member she liked was into it. Saesangs are truly delusional. I could go on about this experience because she said so much shit that made her sound crazy and almost dangerous but kept talking to her because she was fascinating. She was also in her early 30's I believe. A big part of me thinks she made it all up, which is weirder to me for some reason. I have an easier time believing she was a saesang because kpop fans are nuts and she had crazy eyes
Sorry for blogpost
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even weirder is when the people who infantilize them also want to fuck them?? like what is up with that weird shit; go outside for once in your life damn.
throwback to when the stylist noonas or whatever gave jhorse these retarded instagram brows lmaooo
silly anon, they debuted with corny social commentary, gregorian chants, an apocalyptic dance break and a majestic display of their superpowers… Which obviously flopped.
Jokes aside, everytime I see Kai laughing at girl groups' choreographies I just want to shove every single wolf performance into his face and remind him that he's no longer a ballet dancer but a glorified stripper.
it makes me laugh so hard when fans criticize girl groups for having stupid or sexual dances that are all the same (which a lot of them are, don't get me wrong) but then turn around and say how complex and ~unique~ boy group dances are. boy groups have just as retarded dance routines and do just as much fan service in their dances as girl groups do. also, i think the only time i ever enjoyed a boy group covering a girls song was when seventeen does it, as they actually attempt to do it well. boy groups doing ridiculous covers of girl groups were funny the first few times, but now it's just annoying.
also, what is it with fans thinking every song needs a complex dance routine to it? and then they all want them to sing live? and make it 100% perfect every time? like there's nothing wrong with high standards, but you're going to have to choose 2 out of 3 a majority of the time–they can't sing live, have insane dance routines, and hit every note and move perfectly at the same time.
kpop songs are almost always the same: ridiculous high notes, rap break, bridge, hook-oriented, break down, and a mixed beat.
I got into kpop not too long ago, maybe a year or so, before that I just listened to the few songs my friends showed me but I decided that I wanted to see what was the hype about and learn some dances since they seemed fun, needless to say that after I discovered fancams I got pretty disappointed. Once you realize that the formula of kpop choreographies is having a group of mediocre dancers (to take advantage of the cheerleader effect) + good camera work you won't see them the same way.
And yeah, boy groups usually have harder dances but that doesn't make them any better when 1. the routines are just bad and look retarded 2. half of the members don't know how to dance (vid related at 4:22).
>the only time i ever enjoyed a boy group covering a girls song was when seventeen
agreed. they seem to take it as seriously as they take their own songs (at least from the videos I've seen) and if it's just an act at least they're being respectful, although it may have to do with the fact that they have fairly cute concepts, like adore u, pretty u or mansae and they're used to it.
And speaking of those songs. I honestly don't hate cute concepts on gg the problem is that they're so passive and boring. You can be energetic and have initiative while being cute and charming… But no, of course they have to act like clueless kids for their uncle fans, instead of doing a fun and somewhat challenging choreo while singing about how the boy you like makes you feel happy when he laughs or something like that.
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She literally looks like a real doll. I feel kind of bad for her, she must have some serious image issues to go that extent.
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Seems like she wasn't the main aggressor afterall https://www.soompi.com/article/1231593wpp/goo-hara-shares-side-story-assault-incident-boyfriend>Goo Hara shared her diagnoses from the gynecologist and orthopedist. The diagnosis from the gynecologist reads, “uterus and vagina hemorrhage.” The orthopedist’s presumptive diagnosis lists, “cervical sprain,” “facial contusions and sprain,” “lower leg contusions and sprain,” “right forearm and additional sprains.”
She got raped and physically assaulted by her abusive boyfriend, tried to defend herself and SHE has to apologize.
I fucking hate everything
cause koreans are mad racist. they want japan to like them
and they want to make music in japan because they're oh so much better at japanese.
their love yourself albums don't make sense. If they love being idols(apparently that's what idol is about)they have to understand that not everyone is going to like them.
Most of their songs contradict itself
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Found this on some thread via the usual "uwu stream some shitty bts song, look at my beautiful kings" how bliND
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what the fuck am i looking at here? taehyung/v's head this big or smth?
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No. The back of his head is flat. You are looking at a bunch of layers and probably extensions to give his head the illusion of shape and to hide his giant forehead.
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his long ass forehead doesn't help either
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I'm guessing J hope is finally transitioning..?
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looks like pale kris jenner
they seriously do look like him, makes them even more uncanny
also lol @ them being supposed to be caricatures of the south korean ps beauty ideal and end up looking like jhope of all people lmao the irony
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He needs to stop with the fillers or he is gonna look like this creepy twins in a few years. It's better to be ugly instead of a plastic surgery abomination.
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Ok why tf is Vernon wearing an MDMA shirt?? Who ok’d this???
would be so cool to be able to find all of the idols pre debut social media but k netizens are AMAZING at wiping peoples histories its weird as shit
like they have all this stuff and just sit on it to "protect their oppas and unnies" until they get mad at them then they release it at the risk of being arrested for it
the internet is so weird over there
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You’d think that someone like Tiffany wouldn’t be friends with someone like Jessi at first glance. Then you look at their pre-debut posts and then see how similar the two actually are.
Anyway, Jessi is basically like a Gangnam unnie with tan skin. Seeing her pre-debut photos shocked me a little.
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And here’s her now. I like her being kind of like an anti-idol but she straight up looks so cartoonish nowadays.
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Yep. Jessi gets away with being a dumb bitch because she’s the token ABG/“bold” tan-skinned chick in a sea of copy-and-paste ghost-faced idols who aren’t even allowed to cuss without people making a big deal about it.
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“B-But oppar didn’t mean it!!!~ uwu”
Anyway >pic related is unnerving to look at. When will these Korean make-up artists learn?
>>297612>I'd rather listen to tomorrow or i need you than idol any day.
same, these 2 are some of their best songs. i find their pre-wings stuff enjoyable, dope, just one day, tomorrow, baepsae, cypher 2&3. their latest albums seem so rushed compared to their earlier music.
i think the video for i need u was pretty good. as i remember that video was made with a tight budget, they used their manager's car and they used the bighit staff as actors because they couldn't afford extras at that time. it's better most of the pretentious pseudo-intellectual videos they make nowadays.
>>297672>just look at that one time wanna one didn't realize they were being filmed and in those few minutes almost blew their reputation with the gp lmaoooo
for me their best ones are i need u, run and butterfly. they’re nice to listen to (imo) and are emotional in a way that feels more raw and not pseudo-philosophical/-intellectual. they also feel more genuine because they’re not stuffed full with fake-deep bullshit that seems pulled out of their ass.
i really wanna know what members said the more vulgar things oh my god it would be fun to go through member by member
also after reading it i ended up on this article: https://www.8days.sg/sceneandheard/entertainment/people-are-turning-against-choi-siwon-after-his-dog-causes-death-9343440#slideshow-1
such an absurd scandal for a superstar to be caught up in. very tragic though. may the lady rest in peace.
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damn jimin looking emaciated as fuck. no comment on jhorse.
samefagging just to add that i read more into who said what and i’ll forever remember guanlin as handjob guy from now on lmao
i want more incidents like this, especially regarding male idols. it’s aggravating to know gg members get lynched for the most minuscule shit while bg members can do far more ~scandalous~ things and not get nearly as much crap for it. more bg milk plz @ kpop.
amber very well might never come out because of her family and how ingrained mega church christianity is in the community she grew up in
i actually have more hope for korean idols in korea who arent as super into western religion to come out, despite koreas general homophobia, than i do for idols like her and siwon
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Am I the only one that doesn't find Loona all that appealing? They are pretty boring with that over done concept. Their company has so much money and yet they are always wearing the same v neck sweather and tennis skirt. It's cringe af how Kim Lip and Olivia is always singing about eclipses and being an egotist in their songs. They have 0 synergy and it doesn't help how they are constantly segregated into their sub groups when they dance, stand next to each other, photoshoots, etc. I really don't see Loona lasting for anymore than 2 years
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i like loona, most of them are a bunch of cute girls who seem to not have ruined their faces yet, excluding Vivi lmaooo
their personalities are pretty great too
But their company is honestly gonna make em flop if they keep up with same shit over and over again, especially after their debut project a lot of people have high expectations. Also, 12 members is overkill and that white face shit Korean entertainment loves so much gotta go.
the younger generation by and large has been more receptive to homosexuality, and there have been plenty of idols who have spoken in support of it
the ones that spam religious quotes on twitter all day on their days off are usually the closet cases
the average christian in korea isnt extreme in their views unless they have lived in america/are friends with americans
Uniformed debuts are pretty common, but I'm tired of seeing them repeat colors after introducing a new one, especially if the new colors feature different cuts for the members. It must be confusing as fuck for the general audience, too, because Olivia, Hyunjin, and to a lesser extent, Choerry, are easily mixed up in a group of 12 girls dressed identically. I dunno why they're not using their individual colors to familiarize each girl, like Red Velvet and Oh My Girl did.>>297826
With the amount of fillers getting pumped into them, the girls all look mighty tight and swollen. Yves is hot as fuck, but they need to let her chin settle or something.
For the best interest of my music enjoyability, I hope they have a healthy run, but I can easily imagine them unable to make back their investment and disbanding or amassing a BTS-rivalling insane fandom to their detriment.
the average korean christian is not evangelical unless the person associates frequently with americans or attends a church frequented by missionairies
amber literally attends a formosan church
its not typical for asians to be super involved in westernized religious practices unless they are influenced by missionairies or westerners
the average koreans disapproval of homosexulaity is not religiously based, its culturally based and the younger generations are shifting away from the idea that its abnormal
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What the hell is this? Seems to be a China boy group under JYP, with kids reeeeally young, from 11 to 14. The teasers and images are so grown up and make me uncomfortable, like they make the little kids stare at the camera like regular idols. And they use makeup on them and stuff, but the worst is the comments. I haven't seen anything straight pedo but they are already fangirling about small kids and I can just image 20 year old women on the other side of the keyword. Some comments I saw for the teaser of the youngest member, 11 years old.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEJvwM92qME
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maybe they see them as sons or whatever but I can't imagine why anyone would want to stan someone that young.
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I feel there's a whole lot of crazy to uncover with this group, but I'm too disgusted to do it… searched their name and already see ship videos, and I'm not sure what that thumbnail is but if they made these little kids do those "almost kissing" game… why????
Saw a tweet that said the following too:>You cute little thing. Come to noona. I will give you lots and lots of candies.
who…who are they suppose to appeal to? i thought part of the purpose of idols is to be super desirable and make fans obsess over you. these are children, yeah there are pre-teen/child kpop fans but most seem to be teens or young adults, definitely not the type who would be interested in lusting after this group (at least they shouldn't…eck)
i can maybe understand viewing them as more of a younger brother/son type, but it's still strange to fangirl over an actual child. i can't even think of a western equivalent to this…yes there are child performers, but they're pretty much strictly marketed to kids and never portrayed in such a strangely adult way like this
not to mention this is just asking for weird pedo fans
Seriously. Does Asia even have pedophilia laws to protect children? I'm always hearing about the shit that goes down in Japan (Like the piece of shit creator of Rurouni kenshin who got a slap on the wirst and a small fine for basically owning tons of child porn videos.)
It's really disturbing that they market children so young and dont care when adults want to fuck them. ugh
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What the fuck is this photo, what is JYP doing? What are these kids parents doing? Fuck kpop fans… A fan literally said the kid reminds her of Wonho, who is the biggest fuckboy in kpop ever.
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>>297858>i can maybe understand viewing them as more of a younger brother/son type
Are you new to kpop? The moment these kids grow a few inches you'll see their "noonas" screaming "the disrespect!! why you so handsome now" etc, they will sexualize them the second they look "old enough" for them. And try to hide it behind the "proud mom" excuse. It's disgusting.
Translation of image I found on Twitter:>Look at this beauty.>He's 11 but who cares.>You're going to have chinese grandchildren, just wait for my little chinese guy to grow up.
i like how a lot of these commenters have jungkook icons/usernames, you know, another idol that was super sexualized when he was underage. i don't understand how anybody can be interested in a group like this. i could understand if they were marketed towards fellow children but…they're not?
also, jyp can release as much music and shit that he wants but he won't distract me from the fact that he is supposed to do a press conference about the religious cult that he apparently is a part of. apparently it's going to be held this month, september, but it's almost half way through the month and there hasn't been any report on whether he's going to hold it or not.http://www.asianjunkie.com/2018/05/01/dispatch-reports-on-jyps-alleged-involvement-with-salvation-sect-jyp-issues-denial/
(link for anyone out of the loop & curious)
Of course we cant just have all of the dweeby little elementary/middle school kids in korea just have this (they are a huge demographic in terms of korean fans), twitter has to hype it up to be more than what it is.
Imagine back to being 12 with disney channel posters on your wall and having some gross large following of people in their mid twenties talk about how they want to fuck them like this shit was created for them to fap to.
So, RPF is a huge thing in every kpop fandom and honestly I like lurking and cringing at how delusional these ppl are
My question is: do kpoppies see their faves as characters in media?
This nsfw-ish taekook comic really got me thinking: https://twitter.com/kkukku0224/status/1042540912188899328
I only ever understand it when fans draw things like that for anime/cartoons/comics, not real ass people.
not necessarily responding to your exact question, but it's within the same topic ig?
i'm genuinely curious what these people are like in real life. are they autistic? never go outside? have no friends? are secretly in love with their friends/think their friends are secretly in love with them??? like you said, i don't really care about fictional shipping, but shipping real people who are friends is so fucking weird. it's not even just a stan thing; people ship even youtubers who just happen to work together in the same environment and are comfortable with each other, regardless if they are already in relationships with other people. they must seriously not have normal social lives if they actually think two people so much as smiling at each other means they want to shag behind the scenes and are hiding a romantic relationship from the world.
it's one thing to think two people would make a cute couple, but shipping stans go waaaay overboard, it's past creepy.
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For real. If she looks emaciated in images taken through a professional camera, she probably looks even more bony in real life (since the camera does actually make people look heavier).
Also YG saying that BlackPink is aLl nAtUrAl!!1!!1 is so kekworthy after seeing their pre-debut pics.
these "noona fans" are fucking weird. they constantly baby idols, talk about how they watched them grow up and then they cry about how hot they are. they even write that they are a noona in their twitter bios, they take usernames with the word noona. the fact that they are a noona is all they tweet about. we get it, you're 37 with 2 kids and you are a proud army. so impressive, give her a medal omg>>297888
rpf is uncomfortable. most of them say they love them and want to date them (lol) or be friends with them, it's not like they will ever get to even meet them but how the fuck are you going to look at a real human being in real life after writing a 90k word long thing about them fucking their best friends in great detail, i don't know.>>297892
i think the same as well. things shippers see as "chanbaek moment!!!!", "taekook is going strong!!" are literally 2 humans having human interactions and they don't mean anything to anyone who isn't a delulu shipper lmao. watch some random bts interview and if jimin and jungkook looks at each other for like 2 seconds the comments will be like "jikook is feeding us guys.. jimin looked at him and slowly tilted his head to the left and blinked. this means that someone found their soulmate in body language"
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they're /our guys/
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Not sure if this has been posted before, but how is this supposed to work out? How can it be funny or entertaining when they don't understand what he says?
It's seriousy embarrassing that they don't learn English. There are other non-native speakers working in the american entertainment industry (something bts are clearly interested in as well) and they all put in the effort to at least learn the language. Quite rude actually, that they always demand everybody caters to them by providng translaters or having rapmonster do all the work. If I were him I'd put my foot down long ago. Just proves that only dumb kids chose to be idols.
I figured it's due to the constant spew of content going through the kpop streams. There are some groups who have 3 comebacks a year, which is why BP fans freak when coming back after two years or several is considered normal in the US.
So to answer your question: Yes, Kpop groups are very much forgettable. The use of the world comeback is to get fans or fans who've moved on to other groups hyped.
Their fans seriously bask in BTS' nationalism. I'm not saying don't be proud of your country, but if you're actively going to American talk shows and interviews, and promoting there, at least make the effort to learn English. Like deadass, BTS have made full albums in Japanese, you can't tell me they can't make the effort to bust out some fully refined English. At this point, it makes me think that the BigHit ceo, Bang Penis, may be a full blown supporter of Japanese neo-nazis. RE: Holocaust memorial + having BTS collab with a neo-nazi.
Now, that'd be milky.
To be fair they don't speak japanese on japanese talk shows/interviews either, and if they do it's on par with what the stuff they say in english interviews. The only group/solo artist I know that are actually fluent are DBSK and Boa, maybe KARA too, and they had to do that because back then they weren't trying to make it as "Kpop artists" but as Jpop artist. They also regularly work with Japanese producers whereas your average Kpop group just awkwardly translates their korean songs into japanese.
Kpop is a niche genre there now, just how it is in the west, and the people that buy their music know this and don't care. It's like how your average weeb doesn't want a dub for their anime, as long as there's subs they'll buy it. It's almost part of the product, so to say.
This entire western promo is just promo for BTS in Korea essentially, as it's always been. When BTS were fucking nobodies in Korea they had a bigger fandom in the west and used that fact to media play in Korea, which gave them the clout to become what they are today.
Seeing Koreans get triggered
by BigHit wanting to collaborate with a supposed Japanese right-winger and responding with almost as equally cancerous nationalism was pretty funny ngl. The irony.
I don’t care for BTS interviews outside of Korea but they’re actually being coddled as much as you claim they are, that’s really embarrassing. I’m sure any mentions of hooking up will have their fangirls ditching them, but how can they expect to advance further when only one
member out of seven can hold a conversation in English? They love that American clout but it sounds like they aren’t really trying that hard to adapt. They’ll always be seen as an East Asian novelty to the Western public and that’s one of the reasons why.
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Dang, you’re right on the money. >>297728
Amber’s more butch and toned than 80% of male K-pop idols. Not even saying that’s a bad thing because she seems more physically healthy compared to the skellys prancing around nowadays. The backlash she would receive from coming out might not even be as bad as expected. f(x) is dead and she’s not even that relevant to the Korean public.
Damn what the hell, I googled Boystory and they really are marketed like adults, with makeup.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPwTrTK9FzM
With lyrics like these the target audience must be pedos. Who else? 11 yo girls?
Kboos are ana-chans. They make the same excuses for Sunmi and all the other skellies in kpop even though you literally get news of them fainting and going to ER from time to time>>297908
Lmao, me too anon. But I'm gonna find some other group, I feel like BTS is overdone these days.>>297932
I don't know why, but I feel like she's not going to come out any time soon. She seems very stubborn in her denial… I predict that she will only come out after some other lesbian idol does it. That, or she will take the tranny route, because for religious people "it's better to be a tranny than a homo"
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I had such a huge crush on Amber when fx debuted. I love super cute butch women and i hope she just comes out and gets a cute girlfriend. It's really sad to stay closeted.
It always feels like they're on these american shows to make fun of them, rather than promote them. I agree, how can it be funny at all when it's going to be Jimmy Fallon talking and the band nodding awkwardly?
They either need to learn English or stop going on these shows
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anyway even if she’s closeted she’s been doing a lot of girl crush shit since the beginning and even used to have fangirls calling her oppa instead of unnie (which must’ve sucked ass) so she’s already associated with the whole ~lesbian luvurr~ fantasy. maybe i’m naïve but i fail to see how anyone would be shocked by her coming out, homophobic social climate or not.
amber has also been doing a bunch of photoshoots with luna like pic related where they’ve clearly been emulating the ‘butch and femme’ juxtaposition.
Yeah, I agree. Amber has been doing the lesbian imagine thing since the beginning. her coming out wouldnt shock anyone and would probably make some lesbians happy.
Sorry, i just saved the image from a site. I didn't alter the filename.
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Loona has the most ugliest outfits, literally all of their live outfits are different color variants of this. Every member in Loona had the run of the mill idol ps pack, eyes, nose, lips and jaw. If they get anymore done they'll look overdone like Vivi, since this is kpop we're talking about they'll get more work done during comebacks
No matter what fucking corner i stumble upon on the internet there is always one retard screaming "STAND TALENT STAND LOONA".
I've never heard them, where did the hype come from? And are they even popular in Korea?
Has anybody seen this? They can barely answer interview questions, how the hell are they going to deliver a 3 minute speech to the UN
Hopefully they paid somebody competent to write their speech and we don't have to cringe through ratmon stumbling through English while spouting fake deep nonsense that doesn't really mean anything.
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Another idol that I think could just come out already is Jo Kwon. He’s so flamboyantly gay that anyone can sense it from a mile away. I’m definitely making asssumptions here but his love for dressing up in drag, highly campy mannerisms/personality, him getting caught at a gay club, and same-sex dating rumors make it hard to believe he’s 100% hetero. No one would be surprised by him coming out. I don’t think the backlash would be too bad either because his group (2AM) is also dead and the South Korean public seems to have accepted his persona by this point.
>>297964> That, or she will take the tranny route, because for religious people "it's better to be a tranny than a homo"
God anon, don't put that out into the universe. I'd be legitimately upset. She deserves better.>>298119
I can't believe anyone has any doubts about Jo Kwon's sexuality. That closet is completely transparent.
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Whatever they did to her face….she needs to sue.
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Dami from Dreamcatcher.
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She looks just like the Gangnam unni caricature.
can she even breathe?>>298195
she looks exactly like the middle one
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sunmi is insanely skinny. i used to be like her where i'd say "i eat a lot but for some reason i can't gain weight!! ):" and was always called anorexic but i've come to realize that having a few small snacks/not eating for half the day and then being able to demolish one big meal isn't really "eating a lot."
i wonder if she gets sick a lot or has a hard time performing? i remember when i was supo waifish that i had no energy at all, even going up the stairs had me struggling to breathe. she probably gets a ton of IV drips too considering a lot of idols practically live off of them. apologies for semi-blogpost.
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Korean Christians are fucking insane whether or not they have lived in America or if they’ve never spoken a word of English in their lives. There are SO many cults, and even ones that aren’t technically cults act culty by trying to trick people into joining and trying to take over their lives. They bring that crazy hierarchical, follow the leader bullshit into everything they do. There are so many groups walking the streets going up to people like “do you know our holy mother?” Reading off of cue cards because they can’t actually speak English, trying to get your money and info. My Christian friend literally stopped going to church while she lived in Korea because the way they do things made her so uncomfortable. Yes they try to influence politics. Yes they are dangerous. http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-03/south-korean-pastor-arrested-allegedly-detaining-followers-fiji/10067964?pfmredir=sm
My friend was here when these assholes ruined a queer festival in incheon and got violent https://twitter.com/koryodynasty/status/1038307443837521922?s=21
No, Christianity is not as big there as in the west and homophobia there isn’t religion-based, but they have their own special fucked up way of doing things. And yeah some younger Koreans might be more okay with homosexuality but don’t let that fool you - many young people openly told me they thought it was a disease and that gays are depraved (mostly just gay men) and there is really not much of an opportunity to come out of the closet if you want to live a normal life. There are no anti-discrimination laws.
And yeah blah blah blah this isn’t a korean culture thread, but so much wrong information gets passed on through the kpop fandom. Saying amber is somehow more closeted because she’s American is insane. There are SO MANY closeted idols who have never left their country except to do concerts in Japan or whatever. People see small steps being taken by idols saying supportive or at least non homophobic things and thing that represents the rest of the country… it doesn’t.
Exactly, it fit their concept/sound perfectly.
On a side note, I have a question, I don't even know if it makes any sense but here I go:
Female idols are skinny, but why is that older girl groups during their peeks looked really skinny for real while nowadays, girl groups, albeit skinny, look really flabby? Like, compare their legs to SNSD gee era, or BEG abracadabra era, or KARA from the same time… I don't know how to put this, but it seems like they were more "dry" body wise, no extra fat, no flab on the legs, while nowadays everyone looks kinda flabby. Is it because they're just starving and adhering to carboxy shots with no exercise (besides the training)?
Many Koreans want to be skinny without showing any muscle definition, to the extent of regular korean women avoiding lifting heavy things at home or at work.
There are injections to “melt” the muscle and they probably try to lose weight in ways that will not increase muscle mass.
I think it has to do with color grading from official shows and fancams that make idols paler but to the detriment of making muscle tone disappear. Also the high-waisted bottom with cropped tops that's everywhere highlights the wider parts of the torso compared to the low/midrise of the 2000s.
There's a few idols I think who are still comparable to the lean and cut figures of peak SNSD and 9muses, but they all happened to be darker and prefer lower rise bottoms.
But it just might be that the 2000s Western hyperskinny trend also impacted Kpop, and there's surgical treatments that don't improve muscle tone, as you pointed out.
Not everything comes from western trends
In general Koreans think western women are far too thick and muscular. They think it’s weird we work out at all.
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The consequences of being thin for so long are gonna hit Sunmi hard when she's in her 40s. Osteoporosis, early menopause, heart failure, etc
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i wouldn't be surprised if idols throw that food up the minute they get off set. either that or they probably starve for a little while afterwards. i still think holding idols (especially female) to such a high beauty standard but then always wanting them to do shit with food is one of the shittiest things about kpop. and their fans think it's cute too.
Yeah and even if they ‘win’ some food prize or whatever on a tv show, its not like you see them eat eating full servings. They either get one piece of something or take a few bites and sperg about how its the best damn thing they’ve tasted while it cuts away to the next part of the show.
Its easy to look like a girl “who totally lives to eat guys!!!!!!” when you overreact and exaggerate about food and make it a big scene without actually have eaten more than a few bites.
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I love seeing kpop stans cream themselves over darker skin toned idols and praise them for being ~beautiful and confident in their natural skin tone~ who obviously tan their skin to look like that in the first place out of their own preference.
yeah it may kind of be rewarding, but there's a huge chance that they probably throw it up the minute they get off set. bulimia and the sorts is rampant in such beauty-focused industries, especially when you have idols that say shit like "i didn't even eat ice cubes bc i thought i would gain weight" or "i only eat one chicken breast a day." to them it doesn't matter if it's rewarding or delicious after a day of starving–it gets in the way of their diet restrictions.
i'm not discrediting you though, i'm sure there are a ton of idols too who consider it rewarding and don't throw it up along with having normal diets, but i've just heard way too many american stories about celebrities having staff and stuff sneak bottles of water and towels for them and such, so i can only imagine the korean celebrities.>>298793
this too, it's so funny when fans overreact and say how much they love to eat and "see!! they're totally healthy" because they took a small bite or two.
After seeing a lot of those ~melanin~ kpop posts it's obvious some people think every picture where an idol looks tan is their real skin tone and everything else is just whitewashed.
I think Jihyo looks better with a tan though.
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a lot of these idols look so much better with their natural color. hyuna looks absolutely sickening these days with the super pale skin and gauntly figure. i'm sure she used to fake tan in her bubble pop glory days but at least you could remove that shit if you don't end up liking it/wanting to continue with it; you can't remove skin bleach and it's also super dangerous.
i'm pretty sure this point was also brought up, but the blinding white filters also makes them look flat and lifeless, as they get rid of any shadows on the body and it just makes the skin look flat and dull.
Korean christians are a cult.
They believe that Jesus came to Korea as someone else and he will come back (only to Korea though as they are “the chosen ones”)
Koreaboos will never realise how much idecades of poverty affected everyone.
Currently living in Korea and can confirm the workout thing. People are super shocked when I tell them I was into heavy lifting in the states and I'm looking for a gym to lift at.
I was talking to a Korean gym bro and he was genuinely shocked that I own protein powder and a shaker bottle. Like jaw to the floor completely astounded that I even knew what protein powder was.
The reason Korean a lot of women are skinny isn't because they're thin naturally or "diet." They don't intake enough protein and many of them live off of those 5 calorie jelly drinks at the convenience stores. They're just skinnyfat or skeletal.
There's a huge influx of fat Koreans though so maybe it's turning around.
she looked incredible during bubble pop era wtf
also the terribly dry, messy, damaged dead-looking light hair really isn’t helping either. it’s reminiscent of the corpses you see in criminal dramas where they find the body after weeks/months of decomposition. the almost grayish blonde color makes how unnatural and sickly pale her skin is even more obvious too.
she was only attractive in 4minute and her early solo stuff due to styling
shes naturally ugly i dont understand why people fawn over her so hard
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can V stop calling himself "VANTE" and thinking he's a photographer please. it's irritating me.
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V/taehyung has to be the cringiest, most retarded member of BTS, on god.
lmao anon you made me giggle>>298955
he kinda gives the vibe that he was dropped on his head as a child
You know the poor boy has an IQ of 40, the dumbass probably forgot he bitched about fans calling him that.
On another note, why did BTS give him the ~deep artsy~ persona (which as to be why he's sharing those abysmal photos), instead of giving that persona to Jungkook who is actually somewhat talented in photography and art
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probably because jungkook has to retain his fuckboy/babyboy hybrid persona that noonas suck up to and being any sort of deep and artsy would probably be too much lmaooo. tbh i can't really see jungkook with whatever retarded ~deep artsy~ persona it is that taehyung has been sporting, plus taehyung has to have some sort of persona outside of autismo/~rabbits on the moon~ shit. i can't think of any other persona taehyung could really do and somewhat fit him tbh.
because the 4D cough
persona wasn't working out for him and jungkook already had the too shy to talk to girls golden maknae persona
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Reminder that Hyuna was, like, fourteen when she debuted as the ‘sexy’ one in Wonder Girls. Her fans like to pretend she’s this badass kween when the reality is that she’s been groomed since she was a kid.
The fact that Jungkook is far more talented in photography and art than Taehyung is because Taehyung had followed him? Like Taehyung saw what Jungkook was doing and did the same thing too.
Which was a bit unusual the first time I heard it…
i thought he's copying rap monster with his pretentiousness, but maybe it's both.>>299015
btw what is it with many idols loving bieber so much? do they know any other western singers?
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i hope he takes after justin in his current hobo junkie phase, can't wait
Yep. Most Koreans are just a generation or two away from living in huts and pooping in holes. That’s why even if you go to the nicest most upscale hospital in the city, your educated, rich doctor will still examine you sans gloves and without washing his or her hands, cough without covering his or her mouth, stick things in your nose and ears without disposable coverings, and have you put your naked butt in clothes the patient before you wore or have you sitting naked from the waist down on the same chair as everyone else. Also, cults everywhere, extreme superstition, and an elderly population whose manners would rival those of the slums of India.
Sudden modernization means some shit gets left by the wayside. Koreaboos have no idea.
Lmao I was thinking the same thing. Imagine a coworker copying all your hobbies.
Maybe he's just trying hard for some type of validation since he genuinely seems weird and you can tell some members (i.e. suga, and Jin) don't really like him
do these two even know eachother? lmao.
If I see Lisa or any of the blackpink bitches going from airport to airport again in my feed I will combust, I'm so tired of them popping up all the time I keep telling all my apps im not interested but they keep showing up.
The IU Diet is a popular trend by people who "just wanna see if it works!!" and who "aren't doing anything dangerous uwu~" It's an apple and small sweet potato with a low calorie shake per day.
Crash diets are nothing here. These are nosedives into concrete. The ads here around diet products are disgusting, pushing that if you're hungry that you don't need to eat and instead just drink a 5cal drink. Oh wait, now there's a 4cal. Now there's a 3cal! Here, drink this meal replacement protein shake! It's got 80 calories per scooop, and 5g protein! So healthy, Wendy is supporting it! Be an ~idol~ like her!
Idols do push an unhealthy agenda because of their producers, it's just all controlled by the manufacturers of products and the media.
this was discussed in previous threads…
During Burn The Stage, Jin and Taehyung got into an argument. Jin was performing the wrong steps, and Taehyung corrected him, but bc of the ~age hierarchy~ Jin got pissed as fuck bc he's older than Taehyung which supposedly means he's never wrong.
Taehyung and Suga never liked e/o imo bc they're complete opposites, but Big Hit is forcing the bff shit with them by making them hold hands on camera whenever they're sad/upset with e/o
ugh guys y'all really don't know? tae oppa is doing something jungkookie is good at because he is in love with our baby maknae. uwu boyfriends
from what i've seen, i'll say jungkook's video editing and photography seems nice. it's nothing special though, it's just aesthetically good. same for his drawing too. his older brother is an artist or something, maybe he learned from him.
i don't necessarily love or hate taehyung but armeries overhype him when he isn't very talented in singing, dancing, acting, photography, art, anything. i guess he is very popular because of that unique face and he does "cute" or "sexy" stuff to tease the audience often. maybe he could do modeling
ftfy. maybe two years ago, but he's been looking gross lately and it's all down hill from here.
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What the fuck happened to Sehun? He looks like he's 50
Maybe this is how he looks like without all that makeup
Jin is not good looking imo. He also does not carry himself very well. He seems like a awkward loser which would be fine if he weren’t trying to convince the world he was some handsome and talented superstar. Also his hands are so creepy looking and I hate his giant lips
I feel like so many people get considered attractive just because they fit the checklist of the korean beauty standards. For guys it’s even easier. Pale? Check. “Big” nose? Check. Skinny? Check. Eyes not really that big but bigger than the average korean? Check. Not really that tall but taller than the average korean? Check. Congratulations! You’re #1 worldwide handsome!!! Doesn’t matter how ugly you actually are as long as you check off the list.
The list is longer for women but it’s the same, all they have to do is get plastic surgery to fit the checklist and bam they are beautiful, no matter how alien and weird they look now.
And then so many actually attractive people get considered ugly because they dare to not check off every item on the list by having small eyes, tan skin, a flat nose, or some meat on their bones.
Anon from >>299097>>299173
Cool, it's your opinion. By Jin carrying himself well I didn't mean it as a performer. I was saying that I think Jin carries the visual role better than V, but not because I find one of them more attractive than other or whatever. Out of everyone in BTS, I think Jin is the one who fits that position. Jin has been keeping up with that persona since their debut, and they completely changed V's 4D persona to the art hoe persona. Trying to push him as the visual seems kinda awkward
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So Lisa went on a variety show called “Real men” and had a physical examination done. She’s actually as skelly as she says she is on her profile. My male friend who’s into BlackPink shared that with me. When I told him that Lisa’s current BMI would make her susceptible to health risks like losing your period and having your organs not functions properly, he seemed genuinely surprised. If BLINKs are this ignorant on average…
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I think it's safe to assume that Rose has a similar BMI
blinks on average are anachans, plain and simple, and those who aren’t are still ignorant to the vast health risks these girls are setting themselves up for. anyone i’ve seen who has expressed concern for lisa or rose have been shut down by dumbass fans who can’t see past their own delusions.
you can like an idol without thinking everything about them is amazing and perfect and showing concern for them is sure as hell not hate. if anything, it’s far more hateful and selfish to value your own glamorized delusions over your idols’ well-being.
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The photograph is from January 2018. There are other photos with these marks in his wrist around that time. Some people are saying they are photoshopped but these marks are visible here https://twitter.com/bts_bighit/status/947494924080988160
too, and he wore wristbands covering the marks up.
Does anyone know what happened? Maybe it was because of an accident, I hope it's not anything concerning and he's okay
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jungkook always has a shit ton of marks and scratches on him. anytime i see pics with his legs exposed he has a shit ton of bruises and scratches on them, and then there was that one injury on both sides of his arm. does he do something in his free time that warrants this? i can’t imagine falling while dancing and shit does all of that.
I remember ARMY went out of their way to discredit this pic and tell everyone it was Photoshop and that JK was fine, but if their offical Twitter has even more pics with the marks then I guess it's real.
Honestly I feel bad for him, his parents pretty much forced him to the idol life at like 13. You can tell that shit really effected him, even he realizes it to some extent by talking about how he stopped aging mentally at 15, which is typically a sign of some type of trauma.
On top of that he grew up having to be hyperconscious of how people viewed him, along with typical teenage shit, like wanting validation of your peers and to learn to be comfortable with who you are.
He openly stated that he couldn't wear the clothes he wants, get the piercings he wants or anything like that because he was scared the fans won't like it, so for awhile at least the way Korea's public saw definitely effected him.
I wouldn't be surprised if he actually was cutting himself at one point.
tl;dr Jungkook has shitty parents, and children shouldn't be put in the entertainment industry
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jesus christ if this is what yoona looks like in real life, i wonder how lisa and rose look.
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damn, i didn't realize kyuhyun from super junior had such bad skin. with how often koreans and kpop idols go to the dermatologists and stuff, i'm surprised it got this bad.
Suju is a pretty old group, I don't think skin care was as
big of a deal when they were popular.
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This is a recent picture of Rose and Jisoo. I wonder how they even perform like that. Their arms look like sticks.
What's up with kpop stans? Do they secretly hate their idols and want them to die?
-Female idol is a walking skeleton and goes to ER because fainted>She looks great the way she is!! She's fine, she just can't gain weight, stop telling her to get help, it's bodyshaming!!
-Idol has obvious self inflicted cuts on his wrists>He's fine!! It's just photoshop guys!!
Oh man. I’ve heard from BlackPink fans about how Jisoo’s the only member at a normal weight but that’s clearly not true.It’s just that she’s pear-shaped and carried more of her weight in her thighs than other places. Pics like these cleary show that she’s ana like the other members.>>299246>>299276
I feel bad for Jungkook more than the other members. Sure he’s the most popular and that comes with its perks, but he was basically robbed from a chance to grow up normally since he was a teen. It’s not like he can even leave BTS either unless he wants to lose what has become a huge part of his identity.
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Holy shit they must be, here is a picture from one of their most recent concerts, you can slightly see the scars under the makeup. Think what you want about bts, but this is genuinely concerning
I hope he's getting proper help with it
When I used to self harm I did it to my legs a lot, mostly hitting and some scratching but no razors to avoid durable marks.
How sad that there's a possibility he's been doing something similar.
I tried to look up more info on his scars and came across this:https://www.koreaboo.com/news/rumors-jungkook-self-harming-heres-why-its-bs/
>”Haters Claimed BTS Jungkook Was Cutting Himself Using This Picture, Here’s Why It’s Not True”>A.R.M.Y brought receipts to shut down the rumors.
This is actually kind of infuriating. Why does being concerned for someone’s potential self-harm injuries make you a hater? They’re making it seem like suffering from self-harm tendencies is controversial/bad. Do these fans really want their idols to be seen as perfect that badly?
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The fact that the marks are still there, excludes the point that it's a wrist hitting game, unless they're hitting his wrist with a knife
WJSN says they haven't been paid yet, three years after their debut. https://www.soompi.com/article/1232041wpp/wjsn-says-havent-paid-yet-optimistic
"WJSN, now over two years into their careers, revealed recently that they’ve yet to receive payments.
During a press conference on September 17 prior to the group’s comeback with their mini album “WJ PLEASE?” Luda elaborated on what she said about payments on MBC’s Dunia.
She said, “Because it’s a variety show, there’s definitely a part that was jokingly exaggerated. It is true that we haven’t been paid yet. Working since debut, there’s a lot that we’ve learned hands-on. I believe that there are so many things that are more important than [something like payment]. But as hard as we’ve worked on this album, we’re thinking we might be hearing some good news. We want to receive a lot of love from the fans.”
EXY added that “rather than chasing money, we’re working hard and moving up step by step, realizing how special each performance is. We believe that the day will come when we earn a lot and can take care of our parents. We’re not in a hurry.”"
So basically, be an idol, bust your ass for years between training and actual debut, and don't get a single penny in return.
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are they though? i mean it kinda looks like they could be, but it could also just be the wrist skin folding like it normally does. either theyre not there, or theyve faded a lot and are covered with makeup, i honestly cant tell looking at the recent pictures. but hmm, he has a wristband on the area in this recent concert photo too… and a wristband on the same area in a recent performance of anpanman…. worrying.>>299325
wtf? what do they mean they 'haven't been paid yet'? i mean even in south korea that can't be legal…?>>299328
they are so fucking clueless
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i really hope he is okay but why did he wear wristbands during that time if the marks weren't real and just photoshopped
Nah, they look like scars from full on cutting the skin. I used to self harm and for a year or two afterwards they looked like that until they faded to a color similar to my skin.
He did go through a period of always wearing a wrist band on one wrist, which would've covered fresh and healing cuts until they recovered enough to cover with makeup
Yeah Koreans literally open korean culture schools in SEA and other places with classes on things like “korean beauty”
I found out through reading some SEA armys twitters so idk how to find it now sorry
lmfao kpop fans need to come to an agreed upon lie when white knighting east asias bullshit eating standards. do asians eat in small portions every meal or is it suddenly normal that korean meals are "very big.">>299344>>299346>>299347
what is it with someone always coming in saying they don't feel bad when one person just so happens to slightly comment that they care? if the idol was 18 or older when they signed the contract, that's understandable, but when they're under 18? most of them don't realize the implications of the industry or what it's truly like or may have stage parents that pushed them into it very young. majority of these idols started as trainees as young as 9 or 10 and were clearly taken advantage of; do you not find that slightly disturbing? you say they can "always quit," but can they really? sure, maybe they could, but not without their entire reputation on the line and possibly being blackballed by their company. there's also the legal issues with exiting a contract early and also letting down your fellow team mates.
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What is it with kpop hair stylists and crimping? Every once-in-a-while I see some weird experimentation with crimping and it looks so fucking weird.
Lmao feeling bad for someone who go forced in to a shitty industry 13 by their parents (and are contract bound too, FYI)and as a result could possibly harming themselves is completely different than staning them.
And nobody said he was talented, the closest he got was "somewhat talented" which isn't the same. But mostly people were just saying he was better than V, which isn't so hard to do.
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can we go back to roasting the reptilian boy?
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Here He is, with his fellow kind.
i gave her the benefit of the doubt thinking she actually wanted to become an established english artist, but i see the preview and its literally SM shit
will it even be in english lyrics? is she just planning on releasing kpop shit here because if so, i have no reason to really bother supporting her even though i was kinda hype t first
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have some more nightmares anon, kek
i loved 9muses and after school
shame both groups were such a fail company wise they both had all the potential in the world but the constant member rotation is NEVER good idea
Is Somi gonna try going solo? Not familiar with The Black Label aside from people saying it's totally~ discrete from YGE because it's a subsidiary.
Also, I'm still hoping she left for the bizarre reason of JYP's cult connections for the drama.
please please please tell me this is photoshopped
it's the first pic in these threads that physically made me flinch, he literally looks demonic and the background makes it worse
i know it's to early to choose thread pic for the next one but. please.
This is the first time I see RM withouth heavy makeup and contacts and he looks so different 😦
Why the other guys never speak?
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Lmao you should see the infamous RM cursed pic where he had just woken up. Here it is
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i tried to get a better example but i don't really have time rn. anyways, it's not uncanny valley or super noticeable like jimin & jhope but he should quit while he's ahead. i forget when but i'm pretty sure he got a second nose job a year or so ago when he didn't really need it. it's almost like he's trying to go soft/flower boy facially but body and personality wise he just doesn't fit it.
Here's a transcript of the speech so you don't have to suffer through hearing him talk.
It's just the generic find yourself, love yourself, i love ARMY shit they always say. Maybe that's as far as his English vocab goes, since that's pretty much all he says in American interviews as well
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wow…i think this is the first time i haven't absolutely grimaced looking at jimin…i mean he still looks like a plastic frog but at least he doesn't have the psychotic lenses and the retarded filter.
oh GOD, this sounds like some 14 year old's creative writing assignment…>>299652
woah, jimin looks almost human! same cant be said for j-hope though, rip.
the only reason jungkook gets pushed as an uwu visual of the century is because he looks good compared to the others who range between fug, dull/average, uncanny valley and busted, many of them all at once.
it makes me laugh seeing armys call other boy groups like vixx and monsta x ugly or average. most boy groups have one or two genuinely ugly members at absolute maximum. in bts, it’s the norm.
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I like how he's just known as the "rat" now kek
imo jimincel is rat’s only competition for ugliest member, jhope being right behind them.
i agree about v because i do find his features nice; it’s just that him not taking proper care of his looks combined with consistently retarded styling ruins whatever potential is there.
if you look at Jimin at just the right angle he looks like if Lisa was Amber and that Jimin looks 6/10 to me. all other jimins are 4s or 5s.
>i agree about v because i do find his features nice; it’s just that him not taking proper care of his looks combined with consistently retarded styling ruins whatever potential is there.
yeah, V might be a bit higher if he actually took care of himself and didn't have a god awful haircut and a gucci fetish. oh well.
I’m the same person you’re replying to. Anyway, I didn’t really know her prior to watching the video because I don’t follor UPRS. If she’s actually as established as you’re suggesting, I’m also surprised that this video isn’t blowing up. Maybe it’s because she chose to tell her story in English, or maybe K-pop fans just wanna turn a blind eye.
I hope we can get an actuall tell-all memoir from someone who made debuted in a popular group. The idol would make so much money and K-pop would be exposed for the legalized form of slavery that it really is. I think the only thing preventing such a fantasy from ever happening is NDAs and social stigma.
same anon from >>299693
, idk if she's really "established," she's probably considered nugu to many, but she was on unpretty rapstar season 3, a popular rap program in korea and with international fans. so that's why i said she was more likely to be a more legitimate source for answers to questions about the industry since she's actually been in it and around it. this isn't to say that complaints trainees have made are illegitimate, just that she was probably more involved with the kpop scene itself.
>I hope we can get an actuall tell-all memoir from someone who made debuted in a popular group.
if someone from an SM group made one, preferably SNSD, i would screech.
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the new kpop twig arm trend is pretty disgusting. So many girl groups are thinning out their arms to these unrealistic sticks.. it's so unhealthy a lot of them look like cancer patients wtf
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I have long, thin arms with barely any muscle mass or fat and I hate it so much, even lately that I've been working out I still have twig arms that bruise easy. I don't get why kpop culture likes the look so much? It makes them look emaciated and sick as fuck (which to be honest is probably the look they like–weak and in need of a provider or protection). I know kpoop has always favored pale and thin characters, but what is it with this kpop generation that has been taking it to such an extreme?
Someone wrote this under this video and I agree with almost everything:
The company was Nega Network
The "dancer" is either an unknown person or it is Bae Jinye
The "face" was either Ahn Solbin or Kim Nahyun
The "rapper" was Kim Yulhee
Girl S was probably Kim Juna, Nancy or Kim Haeun
Girl B was Jung Soyeon
The big girl group was Brown Eyed Girls
The investor was NH Media's CEO
The semi-big boy group was U-KISS
Team A was Laboum
The hard-working boy group was LC9
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It’s been going on over a few years. This pic is from a while ago so he’s probably gotten more done. But he looks hella plastic now, thinner jaw and nose, higher straighter bridge, plastic fake white skin, straight eyebrows… the usual kpop make over. Ignore the text on the pic, it’s clearly PS… make up can’t thin your nostrils out.
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Some army is losing her shit on /kpop/ because the post about BTS in the UN is not the mots upvoted.
>The most important event in the history of korean music
JFC this girls are delusional
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And when people call her out….
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>>299737>their music spans deep intricate messages about bettering oneself, on the other han the most upvoted MV this week is some girls in school outfits just trying to look lost and pretty
fuck this shit, bts stans are such cancer. I much prefer the kpop stans who is just in it for the fun music videos and cute girls/guys instead of the delusional fan girls who overanalyze in order to throw in fake deep meanings and wokeness into the songs of their fav. artists.
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his nose job is soooo spottable its tragic
I was a huge Shinee fan and I personally don't understand the fandom's logic too. They literally still make memes about Jonghyun as though he's still living, in complete denial. I've barely listened to any of their music ever since his death.
I feel it's somewhat the same situation with Ladies Code where two members passed away, and whilst I appreciate the fact the remaining members still soldiered on and released new singles. Just rubs me the wrong way how dismissive the industry and fans are about death, only throwing publicized funerals and trending hashtags for death anniversaries.
The fandom always says people cope with death in different way, but idk…
I was in a group chat with a girl who wrote a smut fanfiction about Jonghyun less than a month after he died. Her "defense" was that everyone should be over it by now…not even six months after he died. She tried to send it to Key via his Instagram.
Kpop fans never cease to disgust me.
i've seen a lot of tweets from fans talking about what jonghyun probably did today and it unnerves me a little, ngl. i get it can be hard to accept that someone you're a fan of is gone, and i'm not going to laugh at people for coping that way, but it makes me a little uncomfortable. honestly i was surprised shinee were going to stay together but since they have to start enlisting soon i guess doing one extra year didn't seem like a terrible option.
with top that wasn't even the first time he had a rumoured (since i guess it wasn't officially confirmed) suicide attempt. he had one around 2008ish after he broke up with shin min ah. the talk over the first one focuses on the dating more and the talk over the second focuses on the fact that he did the ultimate evil and smoked weed. attempted suicide isn't the fun kind of scandal for people to talk about
Because them mourning the suicide of and idol or being concerned over the attempted suicide of an idol would mean they would have to acknowledge what is at least part of the reason why it happened, which is the insane pressure and inhumane treatment from the idol industry.
They'd rather remain in denial about the industry, and therefore in denial about their idol's death, so they don't have to face the fact that they're supporting companies that abuse and mistreat their oppars, and doing nothing but fueling a industry of suffering and exploitation.
TOP trying to commit suicide was, surprisingly, blown over so quick consodering suicide’s a big dral and he’s from one of the most facf that he’s from one of the biggest K-pop groups ever. You’d think it be brought up more often but I was only just reminded of it now that you brought it up.>>299748
This is sad. Jackson was already naturally good-looking to begin with. South Korean beauty standards are so unrealistic for most Asians to meet so plastic surgery is a must for idols to undergo. Celebrities in the West get work done all of them time but still look natural (most of the time). On the other hand, the average idol has traits like a slim, high-bridged nose, curvy facial side-profile, and paper-white skin that 90% of Koreans aren’t born with.>>299774
Another case as to why I stopped being invested in K-pop. Jonghyun deserves better. He was one of the idols in the industry that didn’t seem like a one-dimensional asshat. Sure he definitely could have been but even so, his stuff as a solo act has more artistry than most idols’.
Yes of course it’s harsher for women. As that fatass shindong once said, it’s okay for him to be fat because he’s a man.
I think the main difference is the men can still have a career once they let themselves go, and keep fans because of their personality or other talents. But with women, so much of their core worth is how young and pretty they are. Jimin can grow old and fat and host his own variety show. A member of twice grows old and fat? She’d have to bow out of the spotlight gracefully or be forever mocked.
ah, i see what you mean. same anon you responded to, but it is true that in Korea there is one specific look that everyone tries to obtain facially and style wise, meanwhile in China and Japan it is more accepted to wear different styles and that no matter what your facial features are, you can be deemed pretty as long as you are pretty. Like an anon above said, idols who are already pretty, like doyeon from weki meki, still get comments about how their nose is too big or their eyebrows aren't straight despite them fitting her natural features.
i wonder what it is that makes Korean people so uniform? not trying to hate on the korean people, just it's kind of weird when you see everyone wearing the same exact outfit and the same makeup style and getting the same facial procedures. you can see it in kpop idols: girl groups all wear tennis skirts and sailor shirts, boy groups all wear shorts or a uniform, having the same type of music style, doing the same type of variety, etc.
afaik ladies code wasnt very popular when it happened and they got more famous AFTER the tragedy so idk if its a good comparison
their career was just starting to take off
~this isn’t a korean culture thread but~ conformity is such a highly praised aspect of the culture sometimes I wonder if N. Korea is not a natural evolution of korean culture sans outside influence.
Even when talking to a regular person in Korea, they’d often tell me the acceptable korean opinion in lieu of their own opinion. For example, “what’s your favorite food?” “ kimchi!” Then several days later “why aren’t you eating your kimchi? I thought it was your favorite food?” “Oh no, actually I don’t like kimchi and my favorite food is hamburger but all Koreans love kimchi”
It sounds retarded but i often had to sift through regurgitated propaganda to get to a korean persons real thoughts. from a young age they are really taught to adopt the national identity first and keep their own opinions on the back burner. It sounds extreme but it shows up in small ways like korean friends buying clothes they say they don’t care for but simply got because it’s a popular style or pattern.
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anon, you're starting to sound like you belong in the vigilant citizen forums
I think Japan and Korea exporting cultural influences to the West (which a shitload of it is just, hey check out this West thing but with East Asian sensibilities!) is more nefarious than we think it is, soon China will get on it too.
This is something you'd never hear even the looniest poltard spout because they're weebs too. It's.. suspicious.
That might be a bit ot, but while watching some Asian Boss videos I noticed just how much more confident and honest Chinese women are in comparison to Korea and also Japan. One would imagine China to be more "backwards" in a way. There are also ridiculous beauty standards, yet they don't seem to abide by them as strictly as Koreans do. Just listen to their voices for example, none of them is trying to sound cute at all. Meanwhile the ones about Japan and Korea you have women saying shit like they would forgive cheating etc. Why is that? How can you have all the technology and money you want on your hands, yet still live with such an ancient mindset?
Also, I love your conspracy theories, anons lol.
I speak Korean, and sometimes it is incredibly akwarkd.
Besides basic grammar mistakes there is also bad pronounciation and sometimes just thrown in words that have nothing to do with the actual message of the song.
But that's just how it works. English is thrown into the song for the sake of flow and coolness.
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A youtuber Superwoman dared to say something about BTS fangirls crying at home after the speech and the fangirls lost their shit because it's obviously so much deeper and more meaningful than that.
The funny thing is many people especially kboos and weebs WOULD be okay with it. They have this false idea that Asian culture is somehow less harmful than western culture, despite Asian countries displaying the same things that cause so much tension in the west (corruption, social and class hierarchies, tribalism, xenophobia, racism, oppression and exploitation of women and children, etc) to the same and sometimes even more extreme levels than in our own home countries and lacking any large social movements to confront these issues due to their strict cultures and conformity
It’s such a weird phenomenon. Like, Japan was basically Nazi germany a couple generations ago yet no westerners hold it against them. They are still very nationalistic and have policies that would have Americans protesting in the streets yet so many people think these countries are somehow better for society, less harmful, or more trustworthy.
I think it’s this weird white guilt thing, and also being taught that having a negative opinion about any brown or yellow country makes you a racist. Complaining so much about problems in their own country and then wanting to Embrace a culture where those problems are even worse and you have less of a voice to make change happen. What sense does that make?
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Namjoon is so deep you guys :’(
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i mean, look at it, a fug.
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a comment made on the UN BTS post on r/kpop
Rat-oppar is truly a revolutionary speaker. He's words will change the world.
Y'all should've already knew tho, with his deep, meaningful lyrics like "I'mma beat that pussy like you never ever felt before" and "haters gon' hate, players gon' play, live a life, man, yeah
Absolutely life changing, imo
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I like WJSN but I hate how much starship tries to cram Seola and Bona down everyone's throat. Even though Chengxiao is the most liked and popular member among netizens and yet SS tries so hard to put Bona and Seola in the spotlight by give them more screen time, lines, sub units and center positions. Like just stop. It's irritating af how even when Bona is not singing she's in the middle and on top of that Bona isn't even the main vocal and she gets more lines than the main vocalists. She and Seola pretty much sing the whole song for their new comeback, how is that fair to the other members? Don't even get me started on Seola, her voice isn't even that amazing or special and yet she's the main vocal? wtf?? Even sub vocals like Luda,Yeoreum, Meiqi, Xuanyi, Eunso and Chengxiao has more interesting voices than her. The forced focus on Seola and Bona has really made me not like them
did anyone else hear about the scandal with a member of ikon? I understand why koreans are sensitive about japan but it feels like mentioning anything related to japan is a minefield. on the other hand that guy seems stupid for even replying. >>300218
If the chinese members do leave once their contracts expire it makes sense for them to push the girls they have now. I never hear anything about Yeonjung even though she got into ioi.
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>Seriously, my eyes only went to J-Hope as I was listening to the UN speech ㅋㅋ Wow he's overly handsome.. he kinda makes me want to join the fandom f*ck.
Koreans are really drinking the Kool-Aid now. His nosejob as seen in >pic related still looks so off-putting.>>300270
iKON annoys me so much but the hate that Junhoe(?) is getting is outrageous. He does seem dumb but it's not like he said that he respects the director's right-wing views; he just seems to be a fan of his films. iKON shouldn't even be relevant anymore considering the bullying and sexism controversies they've been engaged in in the past. I'm surprised that this
is what might end them.
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Kek @ army’s who think their precious woke boys are the first kpop act to ever appear on some talk show in the US and therefore owns the ability to ever do it.
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this gif did a throwback to taeyeon's best visual era, for me personally. now she looks like she's melting at the rate of a lit wax candle.
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really? you're traveling to all these foreign places and you'd rather watch the events on the internet??
who tf says that shit…
as someone who's too poor to travel out of country, that just seems rather close minded and really fucking ungrateful to me
Take your fucking ramen packets, stay in your hotel, and blow your assholes out, soy boys
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6 packets of spicy ramen, instead of ordering room service like a normal and RICH human being would.
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Yet he's still one of the best looking idols from exo.
The bullying of chinese/non-korean members in these groups is so weird and childish, but it's so prevalent it's gross.
>>300279>representative for K-pop in the US
SNSD and Wonder Girls did it first, but ARMYs are literally too young to know that…
And WG could speak English, at least
Well, at least it looked like they were having fun. It's ten times better than Ellen looking at them with her dumb face and trying to start a conversation. Or pranking them.
I didn't see the interview though, so I'll stick to only this video thanks lol
I'm a bit less concerned for NCT now, hope they do something like this and don't try talking to them.
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how dare they say that about psy
Psy/Gangnam style was an international meme/joke. Bts should be treated the same.
they actually wore those outfits for the interview
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this is some top quality horror film shit. i was not ready for this to pop up randomly.
ugh when jhope stood up and showed how he "wants to go shopping" …..ugh…. they are basically just a bunch of caricatures.
suga looks like he wants to disappear
I literally had to fast forward because I just cringe so much lol it was so short and boring though. Can't they ask them something more interesting? Also lol at their faces, anyone catch J-hope smile fade after he introduced himself? You can just hear the "I'm so fucking tired of this shit" in his head, at minute 2:00.
He really went far with the ps, but at least he doesn't look too aunty this time. Dark hair and side part, no bowlcut. An improvement. Jin will always be the most punchable to me, maybe he's a nice guy but he has that nerd face that you want to punch.
RM said "to truly know myself is important to first know my name, where I'm from" lol, is he 5? How is that a revolutionary speech? God they are really as deep as a pond.
I really want to gif some of their stupid faces where you can see the idol persona fade for a few seconds.
The SJW mindset is so prevalent in Kpop fandoms it's honestly mind boggling. Yes, BTS intentions may be good, but they aren't that great, and definitely are hypocritical given the fact many of the members do not practice what they preach behind closed doors.
Two interviewers commented on BTS' UN speech, and one just so happens to be shocked that a Korean pop boy group is speaking on this. Army's reaction: All POC are marginalized and oppressed in Amurica, and have the same experiences, linking each other as one.
jhope totally looks done with it all
hes getting worse at forcing shit
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One guy has a different opinon and they all jump down his throat.
Army is a virus.
I wont be surprised if army turns into a full fledged gang stalking cult over the next few years
it’s likely why kpop groups have so many comebacks compared to artists in other countries music industries
if they didn’t, they'd be forgotten
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That smile to serious is incredible lol, just look how done J-hope is. Bonus retard V and smug asshole face RM.
that's why i don't really understand why everyone is up in arms about blackpink having a comeback like once a year? in other parts of the world, it's super normal for artists to comeback once every one or two years, hell, even more than that. i understand being upset over the lack of songs they have, but i don't understand being upset over the length between comebacks.
>if they didn’t, they'd be forgotten
this is super true though, after being a casual kpop fan for over a decade, i've seen so many groups have a huge hit and then fade into nugudom after taking "too long" to comeback. really shows how easily fans will just move on to the next pretty, young thing that their dead brains can absorb.
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He always looks lost, is he like 20? Why does he look like an eleven year old on interviews?
Also another one of their faces when rat was trying to explain the UN speech. I know they don't understand English, but come on, those are "what the fuck are we doing" faces. They know they're full of shit. Jhope also looks so tired in this one lol
They really can't fake it anymore.
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me when someone asks why people like BTS.
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all i see are korean clowns…those outfits are so ugly and i dont have a clue about kpop
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Lol do you know which one? I'm sure most of them understand what they are saying, but have such atrocious accents that it would ruin their image to speak much.
I don't really care if they learn it because there's no way BTS will still be a thing in USA in another year. I would honestly be SUPER surprised if kpop becomes a huge thing there. >>300777
Also, since someone pointed out that Koreans have bigger heads I can't stop noticing now lol. Just watch those gifs, the are ALL head. Compared to other idols BTS is really stumpy.
Wnted to share this photo from the General thread because I laughed out loud at V's stupid face. WTF
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It seems pretty normalized in Korea to just blantatly point out how ugly someone is. There's even a TV show where they give girls makeovers, and then take pictures and show them a tutorial how to photoshop it, what features need to be improved etc. Goes for guys and girls.
why does she have to come out? She probably just lives with Henry and brings girls back to her place to bang.
You make it out like it's some huge secret, like multiple girl idols haven't referenced their preferences on talk shows before.
Why does their have to be a press conference for who they like to fuck?
Is it just me? Or does it feel like there is some massive amount of secret pedophiles in the world that I don't know about.
I mean there must be some sizable audience for this stuff if they are willing to bet millions on these kid groups.
Pop isn’t a dirty word.. not that Bts come close but the Beatles were pop. It’s just accessible, popular music of its time. I don’t care how deep their lyrics are, Bts are not musically avant garde or anything that is not
Whenever I go to kpop stan twitter I end up losing more faith in humanity. It's filled with so much sjw and stan toxicity and it's not even bearable for laughs anymore
If army really wants to educate someone, they can start with educating their autistic country boy on misogyny first.
i see tiffany is now doing an ~asian tour~ aka putting in no effort for anything in america despite releasing music and trying to get modeling gigs here lol
why are koreans so bad at marketing themselves if they want to appeal to english audiences jfc they just give up halfway or release what amounts to standard run of the mill kpop crap that they should have just released back in korea>>300862
ofc there is i wouldnt be shocked if the vast majority of men in the entertainment business even are
why do you think they like to go to thailand and places where underaged sex tourism is such a big thing
not to be all >all men are shit but lets be real, if pedophilia was legal the majority of men would engage in it and the illegality is the only thing keeping them from going younger than 18-21 publicly
yep she has no one to blame but herself, releasing a video that has a distinct kpop style thats only going to appeal to the people who were her fans in the first place, then fucking off to do an asian meet and greet tour less than a week after the song is released
im so perplexed by it and since seohyun JUST anounced she is also doing the same tour basically, i wonder if tiffanys management just thought it would be a good idea to throw their own version together so they can have ~fan service~ meetups or something idk
this one right?
you can tell by the way suga butts in that it annoyed him
He did something similar the other day too. When Jimmy Fallon told them to introduce themselves to the world, he said he was the leader and the translator of the group. I mean, was it really necessary to say that when you're "introducing yourself to the world"? Especially when it seems that all of them understand English (except maybe V, he seems to be pretty bad at it), and Suga knows how to speak it at an intermediate level (based on this >>301018
, maybe I'm exaggerating, I don't really know how to assess English levels).
Anyway, it's pretty obvious that Ratmon has a superiority complex. Or maybe we need a higher IQ to understand him lol
he’s one of the least popular members (if not the least), infamous for being fug by idol standards, deep down probably realizes how mediocre their group is in terms of artistic integrity and that they rely on pseudo-philosophy/-intellectuality to give an illusion of having some form of substance beyond being a cash cow yada yada yada. he probably could’ve gone far in life with a solid and stimulating profession given his apparently being in the top national percentage of whatever it was but chose to bounce around on stage instead so now he has to remind everyone that he’s really ~super intellectual~ and ~a totally invaluable member of the group that the others would be lost without~
so i can kinda see why he’d have a superiority complex. i feel bad for him sometimes honestly. i don’t really think he’s a shitty person.
They are def not intermediate level English speakers omg
I’d say only ratmon is intermediate-high intermediate. He can barely speak off the cuff and clearly needs to pre-write his answers and speeches or else he gets totally tongue tied and unable to speak. If he had more practice and stopped learning English from rap music he’d def be advanced tho.
Is there even any proof that he was in the top 1%, and has an IQ 140? He just doesn't seem nearly as smart as everyone says he is.
I feel like he was maybe above average in school, so him mom coddled him and told him he was some super smart gifted kid. Then when he joined bighit and they asked if he had any cool talents or hobbies, to help build his image, he told them that he was practically a genius.
I imagine Suga and J-hope loathe him at this point. He has a clear superiority complex and they probably work with him the most.
If he's willing to embarrass them in interviews, I wonder how he acts towards then behind closed doors.
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he said it himself. i don't know if there are any documents or something like that. i don't think he's lying, it would be easy to get exposed for lying about school grades
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>>301079>my personal talent is hiphop style english
I'm not Korean but I imagine that the level of their national test, at least the English segment, must be pretty low. Mostly basic grammar and reading comprehension without any need to write complete essays or anything like that, just ticking the correct answer.
My country also has a similar unified test, at school they only teach you what you need to ace the test, so you can get 100 on the foreign language subject but still be incapable of holding a conversation.
Holly shit they all look so sick of the Rat's bullshit.
I hope they give interviews in the future after the group is over about the internal conflicts.
This is exactly the case. Their English classes are dedicated to answering useless test questions, not actually speaking English. Everyone is required to study English, they spend so much money flying native English speakers in from other countries, sending their kids to English academies, buying books and online courses, testing their population on English and even holding English only interviews between Koreans, yet barely any of them can speak it and there is incorrect English all over their signs, places of business, websites, etc. not to mention many places boast foreign-language services for non-Koreans living in Korea but those claims are either totally false or exaggerated.
My point isn’t that they need to learn English, my point is simply wondering WHY they put all this time, money, and effort into “learning” other languages when the outcome is so poor? The answer is that it’s all just for show and image, like most things in Korea. Doctors are known to have such high language skills because they are supposedly tested for it in university and for their jobs yet it was so fucking hard for me to find a doctor that could speak the bare amount of English to even schedule an appointment with me without confusion.
Lol what an asshole, "oh he speaks 7 words in English". It's kind of patethic to me that they don't know more English, but still you don't need to be a dick about it. Rat speaks well but he makes no sense sometimes. In Jimmy he said something like "speak yourself", the fuck does that mean dude?
Also, after seeing Jhope expressions I kind of like him now lol I wish he was more obvious with how tired of his happy persona he is. In the Jimmy one after he does that stupid walking dance he sits done and makes such a "fuck this" face too lol
Besides Idol I don't think there's a song I hated more than Daydream, god his voice is so grating to my ears. I could not for the life of me believe peopled LIKED IT. THe chorus was decently catchy, but the rest was just terrible. He should stick to dancing and stop with the happy all the time shtick. Did he ever sing? I bet he's a better singer than rapper, lol almost all rappers are better singers in kpop anyway.
Oh my god lol the cringe. The rest of the members look uncomfortable. Why would he say that?? God koreans are so weird about their stupid fucking skin, god forbid they have a darker skintone or any discernable wrinkles. What a sad existence.
I loved this comment lol so accurate.>For someone with an IQ of over 130 that was incredibly stupid of him to say on tv
I like how all the other members only said good things about one other, and RM got more and more uncomfortable as they spoke lmao
He's so arrogant
interviewer asked "What was your first impression when you met each other?"
RM said "When I first saw V and Jhope I couldnt see them because they were too black. So, yeah, when the nights get dark I couldn't find them"
He's an idiot.
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our mascot boi looks like he's trying to succ my soul out through the screen
he keeps saying "love yourself, love myself"," spread love" and shit yet he treats his fellow members like peasants>>301415
And for a second I thought the nun was creepy. Park reptile stole the show
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i love nct i really do but what the fuck is up with yuta’s nose? first the horrific implant and now this???
his nose has been looking a little odd for a while but this is on a completely different level
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Doubt he touched it again, maybe it's the photo? I searched for recent ones of him and it looks the same as before, we all know he did ps years ago. It's weird, in that photo it almost looks bigger, never seen an idol enlarge their noses lol not sure if that's possible.
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Damn I genuinely thought Jennie was a natural beauty, Jisoo seems to be the only most natural one.
I was actually positively surprised that he said that. Imagine being the only one who sat his ass down and studied, be constantly overseas, but all of your other members are too lazy to study AND get pissy at you if you mention having to transate all the time.
I don't know which one that was, but there was an older interview there he had to talk for a really long time and clearly struggled to understand a few words/phrases from time to time, meanwhile nobody tried to hel him att all, the others just sat there looking like dead fishes.
It's pretty pathetic if Suga acts cunty about this, he could just open his mouth and answer himself if he doesn't like this. He's the hyung
If I were rapmonster I'd just stop talking and let the others embarrass themselves lol
He is the only one capable of speaking in English interviews but at the same time, as a group that pushes the bff/unity angle as hard as they do, it comes off as dickish to throw shade at them for not speaking English in every interview.
Also I don't blame them for not knowing a whole lot of English they never really had any reason to learn it, up until like last year when they started trying to appeal to the American market.
They probably should though if they want keep the Western attention
Part of me wishes one of them would just for the drama of it
Honestly tho, Rat wouldn't ever leave willingly, he loves the attention too much
I doubt Jungkook would ever leave either, BTS and idol life is pretty much all he knows
V probably knows he has nothing else going for him so he'll definitely stay
Jimin is hard too tell. he's always crying about not being good enough or something, which could with be him throwing a pity party for attention and asspats or he's being genuine about it and then I could see him quiting due to all the pressure
Suga used to be the one that I could see quiting but idk, nowadays he seems to eat the idol shit up, and loves the fame and money too much
J-hope seem to hate his overly happy bubbly persona, and seems absolutely sick of it as of late so if anybody were to quit it would probably be him
i think it was at a fan sign (correct me if i'm wrong) but i believe jin? said that armys should have high hopes for their contract renewals and that they're going well or something like that? i used to be one of those that thought at least one or two would probably not renew but honestly, the BTS name makes them good money and they've probably gotten comfortable, especially the maknae line, where BTS is pretty much all they really know. a few members probably really do hate it, but then they remember their paychecks and all the pussy they can get and they don't mind so much LOL.
i'm more interested in how their military is gonna go or when they start reaching their 30s. my bets are gonna be that the rat and the reptile are gonna be the milkiest. rat mon and jimin just give me insecurity and "constantly-needs-validation" vibes. they'll probably try really hard to remain in the spotlight. i feel like jimin is gonna be like that one ugly dude from H.O.T who married that girl from crayon pop; ugly, older, and hanging on to his younger self for dear life.
they won't leave for the next few years because they know that they won't be as successful on their own. maybe some of them will when the hype is gone though.
i don't think rm would leave, it would be messy if he did since he's the leader. without him they wouldn't be able to market in america too. they would do well as solo singers but both jimin and jungkook seem too dependent on bts and their fans. from what we see on cameras, i'll also give props to them and say that these three seem like they are the ones that actually care about their friendship with the members. jungkook pretty much grew up with them so it's understandable, and whenever something happens to someone namjoon and jimin are around
suga, jin and v are the most likely to leave. i don't know what to say about jhope, he might leave if he really is tired with his persona. iirc suga said he joined bts, he was told it was going to be a hip hop group with no dancing, but he probably got used to bts the way they are now. maybe he still wants to work on different music. jin studied acting, i can see him working on tv. taehyung isn't talented in acting but he'll get roles or some modeling work for his popularity. or maybe he'll just settle down, he's the family oriented type and wants 5 kids.
i'm curious what's going to happen to them after the hype and if any beef will happen. my guesses are rm and suga will work as producers for bighit, jimin and jhope will be choreographers, jin and v might do some acting and jungkook will become a soloist while still keeping ties with bts
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Look man I do like Jongin but….these dance moves…why do most k pop stars dance like they're constipated robots
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idk why but jimin seems annoying. every time i see a gif of him he's always clinging on to someone or being a sad boi. i feel like he's one of those friends that you always have to give attention or validation so they won't be upset with you. i hope it's just a persona and not legit how he is all the time.
Samefag here. I’m not saying that I
think there’s anything wrong with looking Southeast Asian, but it’s been discussed that Koreans find it insulting to be seen as SEA.
Also I just remembered how non-Korean idols don’t get paid as much as their Korean groupmates because of laws or some shit. With all of the inequity that ‘foreign’ idols receive in finances and social standing, why would anyone outside of East Asians want to be a trainee?
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Nayoung from the nugu group gugudan is always hailed as the most prettiest and popular member in the group yet she looks like a old gangnam unnie to me. There's nothing appealing about her and I'm pretty sure she's lying about her age
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Most of the Nugudan members give me Gangnam unnie vibes. Maybe I’m just biased but K-pop idols are starting to look more and more plastic.
there was a time when EVERY group that came out started to look like the same girl, i think it was that DIA group. I couldnt tell the difference in any of the members i thought i was losing my shit.
DIA, I.O.I, and April i think were the 3 groups im thinking about. Literally theres one member or so that looks different and all the rest look like factory clones i swore there were multiple pairs of twins especially in April and DIA
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sorry forgot pic
same face just different hair
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The criticisms Yuri gets for her looks are too excessive. It’s disappointing that she got a jaw shave because of the hate even though she didn’t need one. Hyoyeon’s the only SNSD member who benefitted from getting a ton
of noticeable work done.
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Compared to >pic related
ive always had a soft spot for her and the only thing that wasnt nice on her was her nose
she was still pretty and had one of the only tolerable personalities in the group to me
i miss the bright and unique stuff circa 2005-2012
even though a lot of the groups started with school girl esque outfits they evolved to have all sorts of cool outfits in rotation
i remember everytime 2ne1, snsd, t-ara and kara would have a comeback i was excited to see the different styles they'd have
I've found her pretty smug and annoying lately, honestly. "I like cool groups like 2NE1, I don't like snsd except Hyoyeon" was just a meme for a while back in about 2011 and she's kept a reputation as the cool and alternative member because she's a dancer and less attractive than the others
That reminds me of memes from that time, there was one of a line of girls wearing ballet shoes and each was labelled with different fandom names (Sones, Wonderfuls, Cassies, Kamilia, Elfs, Shawols) and then one of a girl wearing converse and labelled Blackjack/VIP. If Armys are so obsessed with 'paving the way' they should thank Blackjacks/VIPs for starting the 'it's not like other kpop! it's way too good for that!' attitude
the worst part about 2ne1 fans was bom fans
their defenses for her shitty vocals and swollen plastic face always made me roll my eyes so hard
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Her new look is even more jarring without the heavy makeup.
What, you mean swollen nymph lodes don't change the shape of your nose, your eyelids, and make your bust way bigger? Obviously she never had plastic surgery, she was just ill
Bom's vocals only get defended more and more now, if she'd been active until now then the people who defend her so strongly suddenly would still be making fun of her or criticising her voice. She sounded so awful in 2NE1's last song that I can't imagine what their trio album would've sounded like. I also got bored of fans thinking they ONLY broke up because he didn't want to defend Bom during her scandal. Do people forget he covered it up for about 3 years before news of it got out? Whatever he did to Dispatch to piss them off meant it couldn't be hidden anymore, obviously that means there also wasn't anything more he could do to cover it further. If it got out when it happened, arguably at 2NE1's peak, they would've been dead before they accomplished as much as they did. Her scandal was more than just a drug misunderstanding because it was also proof of how rich celebrities can have scandals covered up and hidden from the public, that's an important reason why it was a bigger deal than someone like GD whose scandal came out almost as soon as it happened
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>>301908>probably because beards don't suit Asian faces in general
Godfrey Gao begs to differ.It’s mainly because of the weak jaws lots of male K-pop idols sport. They can suit a face with strong, angular features that people in K-pop seem to be scared of having.
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This gif of Kara’s Seungyeon was trendy among Korean k-pop fans for some time. The more I look at it the more disturbing I find it. Like, she was probably in her late teens or early twenties in this gif, but she’s dressed like a toddler or dd/lg try-hard.
I also started recalling how other female K-pop idols wear pigtails too and how it’s seen as normal. I can’t imagine a Little Mix/Fifth Harmony member dressed in this kind of style.
Pigtails aren't inherently a ddlg fetish thing… the girl in >>301924
looks normal and cute.
Little mix and fifth harmony are pushing a sexy image anyways, so it wouldn't make sense for them to wear a cute style. That's kind of a weird comparison.
I see a lot of girl wanting to be uwu smol and frail
At least online