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No. 295475

Previous threads:

Rant about Kpop, its creepy fandoms, and/or its fucked up industry. Or just nitpick some idols.

· Don't racebait
· Don't fangirl. Save that for the Kpop General thread here: >>232763
· Don't derail about dumb shit. If it doesn't directly have to do with Kpop, don't post about it here.

Keep in mind that this is not the Korea critical thread. It's not about Korean society as a whole.

No. 295499

not even surprised that bang si hyuk (bang PD) apparently said something about "liking the way he views the world" about Akimoto Yasushi, the man they're collaborating with for their japanese comeback. they continue to work with a bunch of shitty people within their company and they even collaborated with nicki minaj despite her recent issues. business is business ig, but armys swear bighit cares sooooo much about "the boys" outside of money.

No. 295507

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am i the only one who thinks taeyeon was ALWAYS overrated look wise?
people are dogging on her plastic surgery but honestly she wasnt particularly pretty to begin with without a ton of makeup

No. 295510

i personally think she was fairly cute during their early years but not a stunning beauty like that of a korean beauty such as jun ji hyun or of the likes. her face is a little too doughy and childish for me to think she was a top beauty, so i do think she was a little overrated especially after her plastic surgery. she's always been just cute/pretty to me; not bad to look at but overrated.

tiffany, jessica, or yoona were way prettier to me than taeyeon.

No. 295512

yuri too but i guess since she has ~black skin~ she was never allowed to be great lol

No. 295513

i was gonna say yuri and seohyun too but i felt like i was just adding a majority of the group at that point LOL. speaking of yuri, it was a shame how much weight she lost, she looked really good at one point.

SNSD stayed getting in i-netz controversies over calling yuri "black pearl" or smth like that and always using a black emoji for her lmaooo

No. 295531

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i hear soyou is having a comeback? will we finally start seeing some idols with meat on their bones promoting again?

No. 295538

she looks pretty next to tiffany here bc the shot of the latter is kind of unflattering rip

anyway i do like her looks but in a cute/pretty way. i find yoona and jessica the most beautiful but then i also find them the most beautiful female idols period, so.

No. 295541

hara arrested for domestic violence and of course people going out of their way to defend her as if its any less bad for a woman to be violent and assault someone than it is for a man

No. 295547

well tiffany is starting all over in america and seems to be doing well and getting big modeling gigs, according to the new H&M campaign, so it is kind of funny that it feels shes going to become the new face of the group even though shes not even in it anymore

No. 295591

Depends on your taste alone, anon. To me, she's always been the prettiest in snsd (before she fucked her face up)

No. 295592

These people are the minority tho. Most people are bringing up how much worse a man would be shamed and callig out people who are blaming the boyfriend

No. 295635

Beauty really is subjective (duh). I personally find her and Jessica the prettiest even after all the plastic surgery. Likewise, I find Yoona super bland looking but other anons in the replies disagree. It’s funny how vastly different peoples opinions are.

No. 295679

No. 295689

Nah. I’ve alreay seen fans (mainly international fans) make excuses for this. One prominent one is this is Bang PD’s fault and not teh boyz’.

Their popularity will take a hit with the general public in South Korea, but I predict that ARMYs everywhere will overlook this and continue to obsess over them.

No. 295709

I can’t beleive Big Hit was dumb enough to do this though. Koreans might not give a fuck about Nazi imagery, blackface, or rape apologists, but if there’s one thing that’s gonna piss the korean public off it’s a Japanese nationalist!

No. 295710

The last thread was rampant with racebaiting. This is a k-critical thread, not a /pol/ thread. Last and final warning.

No. 295712

i'm surprised it isn't making it obvious to fans that bts aren't super unique, self producing, totally in control geniuses and are just kpop idols who'll get told what to do. fans are really selective on when a group has full control and when they're being forced into something

No. 295725

But nobody did anything wrong now…?

No. 295726

It's weird how Kpop fans talk about idols like they're trading Pokémon cards rather than talking about actual humans

No. 295732

boy group photocards are pretty much pokémon cards for young women/girls lol.

No. 295750

Taeyeon was naturally the prettiest and imo had unnecessary surgeries. Yoona straight up looked like a man in that Super Junior (?) vid she appeared in pre debut

No. 295751

Sunmi has been hospitalized for "dizziness". B-But she's just naturally thin, guyz! She's healthy!

No. 295760

>As much as I love BTS, I'll have no regrets letting them go if they push forward with this.
>I'm a Korean first and foremost before I am a BTS fan.
>I don't want to have to boycott my own artist but what's wrong is wrong.
>I love BTS and want nothing but the best for them… but I agree with public sentiment. If the song eventually gets released, I don't think I could stand the sense of betrayal.
>They're going to be called Right-wing TS now
>Even if the collab gets canceled, the fact that the idea was even entertained at all is a disappointment.
>The song hasn't even been released yet but news of the collab alone has already branded BTS with a right-wing image.

No. 295764

>anon doesnt shill out 486 bucks for at least 50 copies of each photobook and album to collect each members individual photo card except for that one uggo of the group that has no fans

No. 295765

yoona and jessica both had shit tier jaws pre jaw shave
but the rest of their features are nice i think yoona has beautiful eyes!

No. 295768

This made me love bad lip reading even more, they managed to make that mv bearable by creating a much better song

No. 295769

do you really not comprehend why the south korean public would have a problem with the japanese far right?

No. 295772

Tfw this actually is a better song than Idol
I like the mv for Idol but the song itself is like the awkward younger sibling of Fire and Not Today. The traditional instruments in the teaser sounded nice, I wish they used it in the real song

No. 295795

They are acting like the BIGGEST douches on this song, also it sucks as I predicted it would. Sehun really is useless, he doesn't even sing only talks the whole song. He raps but he's so unconvincing as a rapper it hurts. Chanyeol should sing and leave rapping to other idols.

Only thing positive is it seems idols lately are bulking up? I've noticed several of them already with bigger arms, etc. Less skinny freaks, except Suga he'll always be spoopy.

No. 295803

agreed, chanyeol is a better vocalist than a rapper.
never understood why every kpop group needs rappers or why every kpop song needs rap, in some songs it just makes you think "was this rap verse even necessary?"

No. 295818

sunmi is very obviously underweight but kpop fans love her because she has short nails. people can say she was dizzy from overwork, exhaustion etc but that's going to be made worse by the fact that she has been undeniably underweight for a long time now

No. 295855

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I looked up pre-debut pictures of Yoona and I think she honestly looked great aside from maybe her nose. She was already so pretty and didn’t need a jawshave. Now her face reminds me of an oddly shaped egg and the skin around her chin area sags so much. Like, her neck looks too lonk compared to the rest of her face now.

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I'm not familiar with SNSD since I got into kpop recently, but I remember seeing said photo on a plastic surgery thread. Yuri is it right? God, look at that sag on her jaw, it's terrible. And it's not the expression on her face, there's a more photos that show how progressively worse it got.

No. 295867

I don’t see anything wrong with her nose here. It’s not big in any way and suits her face. You should be able to breathe through those things, you know.

Honestly she along with most other idols was pretty enough from the start, prettier than many idols that have had tons of procedures. This compulsively destroying idols’ faces seemingly just for the hell of it sends the message that they’re trying really hard to compensate for something they know they’re lacking in. Talent, stage presence, body shape, who cares just cut a little here and there and make them starve and people will have something else to talk about. Sigh.

Whoever makes the decision to put a 14yo under the knife deserves to be shot in the face, no edge or PS joke intended. It’s so fucking vile.

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I feel bad for younger iola nd trainees who get so much work done in their teen years. A lot of procedures don’t age well and so much growth naturally occurs in those teen years. To have chemical injections and bone re-structuring done when you’re fifteen before your natural features can finally settle in is risky.

Anyway, I know that Jessica’s gotten comments about having a really strong jaw pre-debut but I don’t think she needed the shave either. Her features were already so pretty.

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I don’t get why Koreans insist that Sooyoung is one of the uglier SNSD members along with Hyoyeon and Sunny. Is it because she’s naturally tanner and kept her naturally rounder, squarer jae after debut instead of opting for a v-line? If so, Korea’s beauty standards are really too stupid and narrow. She’s one of the members who was already pretty pre-debut.

No. 295896

i don’t listen to kpop like 99% of the posters in these threads but k beauty standards get on my last fucking nerve. like i thought we had it bad enough in the west lmao we really don’t. i almost feel bad for all the non-korean kpoppies for having assembly line women and guys to look up to but that’s their problem for having shit taste and fetishizing actual people.

fr though, is it true that plastic surgery is a super common present for an 18th birthday? it’s not even racist to say they look exactly the same at this point, they’re made that way.

sorry having a heated gamer moment. enjoy yourselves lol.

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She’s one of the prettiest girls in Kpop imo. She looks doll-like and her eyes are super big and doe-y and beautiful. Putting her on the same level as Hyoyeon and Sunny is shitty.

Anyway, she definitely has the hottest boyfriend among all members (present and past) so I highly doubt she’s considered genuinely homely though.

No. 295900

I think it's her nose rather than her jaw, it's not the high and pointy type they like. They say she looks South East Asian and I can see it, but that's a bad thing to Koreans. And yeah, the tan obviously.

No. 295903

Are you blind? She most definitely messed with her jaw, square where? Koreans don’t like her because she isn’t as baby faced and cute as say taeyeon, or yoona. She also doesn’t have that kinda basic korean ~look~ to her Idk. I thought she was Philippino or something when I first got into snsd. She looks great these days tho, shame about the nose.

No. 295908

sunny is one of the ugliest idols period
her nepotism ass made it pretty far in the fandom in the beginning because she could pull off that over the top cutesy and funny fake bullshit they made her do
once she grew out of it though, yikes

No. 295909

she was always considered pretty i thought, and complimented for being thin and tall like a model
iirc the only negative was that she was dark and people would call her thai soo and filipino etc, and referring to a korean as a sea instead of east asian is one of the biggest insults you can make

No. 295916

Gross, I really hate Korea’s superiority complex over Southeast Asians. Strangely enough, many Southeast Asians naturally have some features that Koreans will get surgery for (big doe-like eyes, less angular faces) but they’re still seen as ugly.

No. 295917

they did the same thing to luna
thats probably why she fucked herself up surgery, weight and carboxy shots wise and making herself appear as white as possible and ofc koreans now say she looks ~nicer and prettier~

No. 295920

Don’t SEA make up a sizable portion of Kpop groups’ fan followings outside of East Asia? That’s pretty fucked up. I feel bad for fans who worship idols that are basically taught to regard them as sub-human.

No. 295921

they sure do
some of the most loyal fansites are thai and malaysian

No. 295923

Yeah, I know and know of plenty of Southeast Asians who are Koreaboos. K-dramas and K-pop gets consumed heavily in SEA countries, and it’s no surprise that there end up being a ton of self-hating SEAs who want to look more Korean and wish they were Korean. It’s really sad.

No. 295928

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I don't think lisa looks that bad but I'm saddened that she bleached her skin, I love that her nose doesn't look like michael jackson's though.

No. 295929

I don't find her ugly exactly but really really plain without her brand. I mean there are so many stunning Thai women/girls out there I think her features are really pedestrian. She wouldn't have gotten anywhere if she wasn't really rich.
Btw if she had a modicum of talent the appearance shit could be completely overlooked but she fails in that regard too.

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I agree but I appreciate that she doesn't look like most botched korean idols out there with nosejobs.
Apparently she's a naturally gifted dancer so that might be why she was casted.

No. 295933

The fact that Lisa is the most talented member of BlackPink is kinda laughable. Like, she’s not a bad dancer by K-idol standards, but there are way more well-rounded and skilled idols out there.

No. 295934

I'm in the same boat as you anon. I don't listen to kpop but these days it feels inescapable so I end up having opinions. I agree the beauty standards are shit. The most embarrassing part in my opinion is that all seems to be part of a sort of nationalist overcompensation like "Our women are most beautiful in the world","Our men are the most handsome" "We Koreans have the whitest purest skin". It all comes down to this strange inferiority complex that's both desperate and unattractive.
The fact that they obsess about "visuals" and "proportions" says it all imo.
To contrast, take Japan- which has it's own laundry list of issues ranging from obsessive infantilization to ana-tier body worship- but at least due to "cuteness" being the gold standard and not perfect beauty they don't all buy the same face at the ps office.

No. 295935

I find her really pretty tbh. I know she doesn’t sing or rap very well but she seems to be a genuinely talented dancer from what I’ve seen of her, although I do think she hasn’t been allowed to showcase it enough for anyone to really judge it but that’s on YG’s cheap ass.

I remember a lot of people thought she was white or at least part white when she first debuted. What do you guys think?

No. 295936

She did have a nose job. It's just much better more subtle work than average for kpop.

No. 295937

To each his own anon. Tbf they style her really well. She doesn't look mixed to me at all especially if you take a look at some of her more natural less flattering pre-debut pictures.
About her ability; She can dance well because she's has years of expensive private lesson but she doesn't have any kind of natural gift for it if that makes sense. A good dancer makes shit look effortless. Lisa makes it look like work.

No. 295938

>The most embarrassing part in my opinion is that all seems to be part of a sort of nationalist overcompensation like "Our women are most beautiful in the world","Our men are the most handsome" "We Koreans have the whitest purest skin". It all comes down to this strange inferiority complex that's both desperate and unattractive.

This is such and accurate and well-worded statement. The follow K-netizen comments from this one post perfectly exemplify what you're talking about:

>To be honest, Koreans are the prettiest accross Asia. Regardless of the surgery and the makeup, we're the prettiest

>So true, Japan's visuals, especially the guys….. My family oppa is hot in comparison

>I get that too, I'm bellow average in Korea but people call me pretty in Japanㅋㅋㅋ They kinda have different beauty standards than us, people call my oppa "just fine" here but in Japan all the kids are smiling at himㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ He never heard that he's "just fine" over there. ㅋ…


No. 295941

This is such a weird and shallow way to carve out a national identity. I hate kpop.

No. 295942

What is this even referring to?

No. 295945

We talked quite a bit about koreans wanting to look white and such. Not everyone agreed to it but I guess it was deemed racist? Besides that they have shit plumbing? lol don't know, I didn't think it was that serious. I don't think it's racist to point out that they have unreal beauty standards and that they want to look nothing like their natural features.

No. 295949

as long as its related to kpop itself and the idols and industry, which is a reflection of the society in itself, i dont see how its an issue either but idk

No. 295950

so many groups, main/lead dancers included, are completely lifeless on stage. i'm specifically thinking of red velvet's power up stages. wendy was the only one who actually acted like she wanted to be there

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No. 295953

maybe its because wendy is the definition of >im just happy to be here

No. 295955

Whenever I see RV performances I’ve noticed that Wendy is always smiling even as the other members look dead inside. I like all of them and Seulgi is my girl crush but I still can’t help but notice these things too.

No. 295956

wow so cute uWu oppa~

No. 295959

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reminds me of this lol

No. 295962

I wrote this before, I think he has 100% a glass eye because it's rather static and doesn't move like a normal eye. A teacher of mine looks exactly the same.

No. 295964

I guess I thought something new had happened, oh well whatever.

My current pet peeve is watching kpop fans trying to trick themselves into liking their bias groups new music.

They’ll either try to find some tiny thing to praise like “i love that 3 second riff right before it vomits a recycled DDR track all over my ears!”

Or they’ll say stuff like “I listened to it all day yesterday and today and I think it’s finally growing on me, it’s not that bad!” Like they are 6 years old and being forcefed slimy peas.

If you don’t like something you don’t have to force yourself into it!!

No. 295965

A lot of people don’t know this because music show camera work does all the work for them. When you see it in real life you’re like holy shit they’re barely moving!

No. 295969

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>Peak of your career, all of Korea loves you. Sees you as national heros.
>Enough international fans to hold a world tour
>The whole time you peformed for fans that you have a superiority complex over because they're not korean, were overworked for months by your boss, and longed to return home to you 'real' fans that you missed everyday while you were gone.
>Finally get to go home.
>The whole country hates you, you no longer have any fans and are branded as a 'right-wing' traitor.
>Turns out your boss decided to have your next album produced by the Japanese equivalent of a Nazi.
>Your career is over, all because you boss is a dumbass who can't choose good people to work with to save his life

No. 295970

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After a jaw shave surgery the skin doesn't shrink to fit the new jaw, it stays the same. If a lot of jaw was shaved, this turns the skin into a weird skin sac that doesn't fit the skull which can end up being worse than what the patient started with. Personally, I'd prefer a strong jaw over a sagging one, but that's just me.

No. 295974

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Kyla lookin crusty as hell in the us. Guess the rumours about her taking a break to lose weight were untrue. Big oof.On one hand i'm happy she seems to be done with the idol shit, but damn.. The effort is nonexistent

No. 295976

some people just have a hard time losing weight and maintaining unfortuntely
i doubt she'll come back unless she develops a full blown starving or purging habit

No. 295982

Those light brown contacts his stylist insists on makes him look like a lizard person

Maybe the comments about Asians having flat heads?

It’s amazing she was ever an idol. She seems to fit in well in the US, happy for her honestly

No. 295983

Sucks that she literally cannot have a career without being skinny

No. 295986

Sure but thats the harsh reality. She wont make it as an idol because she has no good points at all. There have been some idols that arent as skinny. Ailee is one but she had talent to back it up. Kyla has nothing Koreans would want. Her personality is so bland and she isnt talented. So why invest in her?

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No. 295989

She's probably just dealing with the hormonal shit lots of teens experience that messes with their skin. It's one thing to pick apart an adult who can make their own choices, but it feels weird coming after a teenager who's still under her parents' care.

I hope she doesn't come back because she'll definitely get more hate from Koreans. She's better off growing up and enjoying her life as a regular teen in the US.

No. 295990

Whoops, I meant to reply to this >>295974

No. 295991

I agree with you.

No. 295994

Thanks for the explanation anon. I've always wondered wtf happened to yoona's face because her cheeks are just so big and sagging now

No. 295995

Right, every time BTS performs on American national television their routines look like shit because of the lack of moving camera work and close ups intended to distract from their imperfect execution

No. 295996

>fans love her because she has short nails

…what? This is a thing…??

No. 296000

lol fans think every woman with short nails is a lesbo…therefore she gets that edgy/lesbo cred ig

No. 296001

Lesbian meme. You can’t have short nails in kpop without it being sexual for some reason

No. 296002

>You can’t have short nails in kpop without it being sexual for some reason
that line just reminded me how kpop fans claim not to listen to western/american music because it's "too sexual" yet turn around and fetishize/sexualize kpop idols LOL

No. 296003

There was speculation that she's a lesbian because of her short nails. And by "speculation", I mean someone made a sarcastic comment on her instagram about the length of her nails and the press reported on it, because of course they did. No one thought it was maybe because she plays bass and you can't play bass with long ass nails.

I mean, I WISH she was into women but I've never gotten that vibe from her.

No. 296004

excuse you she was ALL over that backup dancer in the Gashina performances!!11

No. 296007

Oh, you mean this one anon?!?!

No. 296012

>What if bighit planned all of it and they’re all gay and their concept connecting all their albums is being gay and accepting yourself

>read it and weep heteros

at least one member of bts has gotta regret debuting as an idol

No. 296013

i would put my bets on suga but i bet he doesn't regret having easy access to that japanese pussy sooo idk

No. 296018

I used to think he hated it but he seems to take it all in stride now

Maybe V hates it because he seems like such a whiny baby and wants to break free into being an actor or photographer or some shit whatever he’s delusional enough to think he’d be good at

I get this feeling that deep down jimin really hates his fans, even his korean ones. Idk I just get a bad feeling about him lol

No. 296019

Even if jimin hates his fans I think he likes being a idol. He knows that if he hadn’t gone this route he’d just be some chubby loser in Busan going to a shitty college and saving up his coins to spend on middle aged norebang hookers like the rest of his type. At least now he can afford the good stuff.

No. 296020

Not to mention all of the validation he gets from millions of fangirls who try so hard to meme that he's good-looking. If he weren't a BTS member, he'd just be another dude on the street you wouldn't think twice about after seeing.

No. 296021

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i wonder what he would've grown up looking like without all the plastic surgery and the constant use of contacts…

No. 296026

That reminds me of back when people kind of memed about Kris being some kind of dork when it was pretty obvious he didn’t want to be there.
And then there he went. Man, the drama that followed that. Those were some times.

No. 296029

lmfaooo the mess from EXO's china line fallout kept me fed for a good while, that shit was hilarious. tao's dramatic ass after kris left going on about "betrayal" or something like that and then he went and left the group himself

No. 296032

Lol that was such a good time for kpop drama

I remember rumors of people hearing Tao crying from the SM building and “baekhyun getting hit” 😂😂😂

No. 296034

Yeah. Him and suga are so average looking.

No. 296035

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he lowkey looked like a more asian leafyishere ?

No. 296099

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lmao she says this is a joke but it's so desperate and some fans deadass think like this. him liking troye sivan's music doesn't really prove anything, you don't have to be gay to enjoy a gay artist's music. them seeing bts' interactions with each other as romantic or sexual is funny because all of these interactions are either obviously fanservice or just friends being comfortable around each other.
of course if any of them is actually gay, it's okay but you've seen all of these guys being interested in women countless times lol. jungkook's been super talkative about his fanboy crush on iu since he was a kid. this is the group that made the ultimate heterosexual anthem war of hormone for fuck's sake

No. 296103

cant unsee this now lmao

No. 296124

>No one thought it was maybe because she plays bass and you can't play bass with long ass nails.
lmao i was just gonna comment on this. people really know jack shit about the little requirements of playing different instruments. meanwhile they go like
>muh talented artistic qween!! i totally know enough to comment on her instrument playing skillz uwu!!

No. 296125

I watched a good video a while back that theorised South Korea's obsession with beauty and appearance was created from the entertainment they had after they'd become more developed as a country; it was mostly television and game shows with attractive idols and models and such. I think that's pretty accurate when wondering why they're so obsessed with beauty back there to unhealthy standards. Also makes me think they have an inferiority thing where they always fall back on appearance to seem better than other countries and have some sort of advantage because for a while SK was a very undeveloped country in terms of identity. No wonder so many people kill themselves there honestly. Having a whole country fixated on shallow looks and plastic surgery and perfect looking idols to be influenced from is a recipe for disaster and self hate in its people

Jesus Christ this is terrifying to scroll down to in a dark room all by yourself lol

No. 296127

woah, thats jhope? he looks like a different person lol, wonder what he's going to morph into next.

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Jimin the lizard person is basically the (un)official face of these threads now, huh?

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Anotha one

No. 296137

She does have a plastic nose though

No. 296148

I think all east Asian countries are just super obsessed with looks more than people in the west

No. 296149

Enough with the Korea talk, can we just snark abou idols.

No. 296156

I think she's full thai. I remember seeing somewhere her biological dad is thai, but isn't in her life. Her step-dad is white though.

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No. 296159

Are there any idols that you guys think are foxes?

I feel that way about Yooa from oh my girl and Taeyong from nct. I don't think Yooa is evil though. I do think Taeyong could've changed since most of his scandals are old. But the fact that they make him have such a ~cute~ personality just makes him seem really fake.

No. 296161

If you’re talking about your idols without considering the country/culture they come from then you’re missing a huge part of the puzzle but go ahead, talk about the minuscule details of your faves nose job for the 1000th time.

Maybe there should be two threads, one for people who want to stan and talk about heir faves in a slightly negative way (but can’t elsehwhere because the kpop fandom is so sensitive) and a thread for people who actually want to critique kpop as a whole

No. 296162

The horsemen of the apocalypse

No. 296166

for me, i think iu, jennie, mina, yeri, and jimin (i'm not even one of the anons posting the pics of him he just bothers me). i want to add park bogum but i don't really think he's a fox and he's not an idol, he just weirds me out even though that cult stuff was disproven

No. 296169

>If you’re talking about your idols without considering the country/culture they come from then you’re missing a huge part of the puzzle but go ahead, talk about the minuscule details of your faves nose job for the 1000th time.

You want to analyse Korean culture and history in fucking lolcow board? Are you retarded? You sound like a bitter ex koreaboo.

No. 296172

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damn bruh, you sound like the bitter one here. if it bothers you so much go somewhere else or just post a picture of some botched idol you think is ugly. it's true that you can't really discuss some topics of kpop without having to look at korean society as whole.

either that or they look supremely stupid when they dance. look at e'dawn's crackhead ass dancing when there isn't some show trying to edit the dance to make it look good.


No. 296177

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Another ex koreaboo. Tragic.

No. 296178

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armys hyping up V/taehyung and shilling him as one of the most attractive male idols has to be the funniest thing i've ever seen. he's seriously so ugly and pulls the most retarded faces. for some reason every time i'm subjected to a picture of him i feel like he probably stinks. i guess i'm not the only one, some other idol thought the same thing when she saw him in real life lmaoo.


No. 296180

Lmao imagine being such a loser that you can’t stand to hear anything slightly negative about a country that doesn’t give a fuck about you. Can’t relate!

You just want to stan under the guise of being critical so you can fake a feeling of superiority over other fans. You didn’t like your faves outfit one time? Wow, so critical, so brave, you really need an anon board to express such a bold opinion.

No. 296181

eh anon, just ignore them, they just want to bait.

No. 296182

Idgi she barely said anything except she wondered about callouses on his feet which is… weird lol but why did she have to apologize?

No. 296183

speaking of V, gucci is ugly overpriced shit and the fact that him liking it is 1/2 of his persona makes him seem so vapid and empty

No. 296184

apparently in korean it means more like "athlete's foot" or something like that, or some sort of foot fungus. so ig it would be rude to publicly start potential rumors like that, especially if its your senior? but we all know that any sort of criticism no matter how small towards BTS is a crime.

No. 296187

Lmao that’s funny but honestly it would be a rude thing to randomly say about anyone in front of a bunch of people!

No. 296192

kek and apparently he's supo unique since he likes van gogh, classical music, and photography.

No. 296193

File: 1537029330281.jpeg (6.74 KB, 244x206, images (1).jpeg)

Anon confess. Tell us your truth.

>Femcel travels to Korea

>Blue hair and a buzz cut
>Thinks everyone is gonna love her because she is so different and not like other girls
>Koreans fin her fat and ugly
>Now spends all day ranting about how awful and backwards is korean society while she eats the third burger of the day.

No. 296194

You’ve clearly never been to Asia.
Even the ugliest and fattest of western girls get boatloads of attention, praise, and guys going after them in those countries. Just stop trying, you have no idea what you’re talking about.

No. 296195

Oops, forgot to clarify. I know she's Thai; I was wondering if you guys thought she /resembled/ a white girl like people used to comment on before lol

My bad.

No. 296211

Koreaboos were crying their oppars and noonars were getting btfo

No. 296212

topkek best timeline

No. 296214

This is just … so ugly and bizarre and yet I can’t look away

No. 296223

irene always looks the most dead out of the red velvet girls on stage, and that’s a pretty difficult feat. she’s beautiful, but i feel like that’s the only reason why she’s the leader of the group. she has no talent otherwise

No. 296224

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“And he has a clean and beautiful feet. Everybody know that.“

No. 296226

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what? you don't like this anon? kek

No. 296227

Imagine being in your late twenties like Irene and having to perform to childish songs like “#CookieJar” and “Power Up.” I’n not saying that excuses her lazy performance but I feel bad for her in that regard.

No. 296228

What kind of manners…

No. 296230

once i saw a rv fan listing their talents and interests and irene's literally just said she likes doing laundry. imagine being so full even your fans can't think of anything better to say

No. 296231

is that someones hand touching on his ankle…?

No. 296235

how fucking small are his feet? i assume his legs are fairly long so the rest of him should be far from the camera, them being so narrow looks strange for a grown man

No. 296240

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this discussion of BTSs feet reminded me of this for some reason

No. 296242

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What the hell, dude's a freak. Short as hell, skinny as ALL hell and also has clown feet lol.

Also anon I hate you for making search yoongi feet on Google. Time to delete my browser history of this cancer.

No. 296246

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you know what they say about dudes with big feet, anons.

speaking of which, when i saw this chart on /g/ i immediately thought of this thread lol. no idea how accurate it is, but a lot of dudes in kpop do seem like theyre constantly compensating for something……

No. 296249

smh why did you just remind me of those threads fans would make about the order of male group members dick sizes based on some bulges? i would just be minding my business on tumblr scrolling through my dashboard and all of sudden a huge post about "EXO members ranked by dick size" would pop up and it would just be pics of their bulges or whatever.

>be kpop stan

>"i don't listen to american music because of the sexualization !!111!!11!"
>continues to sexualize their baby boiz

No. 296250

No. 296251

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Idk if it's because I'm high but his face looks so effed up in this gif.

No. 296253

neanderthal is all i see in him.

No. 296254

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i hate myself for scrolling all the way down

No. 296259

I mean her being criticized for her weight sucks but thats life as an idol. But what I'm most shocked at is that she seems to have gained alot of weight. Before she was a little chubby but now she could be classified as over weight. Loosing weight is hard but it isn't THAT hard. It's been about a year since pristin's last full comeback. They should just drop her for the sake of the rest of the group because there's no way they'll let her preform in her current state

No. 296267

I don't think the conversation would be the same if she was notably talented at something, but unfortunately she's already kind of just an extra member in a group that already has more members than it needs. I think some of the criticism has been a bit harsh, she is just a teenager and some comments would make you think she's obese, but if you don't contribute anything as an idol it might just not be the best path for you at that time

No. 296273

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What's up with armys being pressed at Jungkook not being an uwu baby boy anymore lol

No. 296275

>they don't have to make him try to act like a fuckboy.
lmao at armys assuming the uwu baby boy image bighit gave him wasn't a character they totally fell for too.

No. 296280

Does anyone else have a problem with fans referring to idols by their real names? Frankly, there are stage names like Suga and J-Hope that sound ridiculous, but fans referring to them by their bio names seems a little too personal. Like, these idols have an image/persona cultivated for them that ties into their stage name. It feels like a boundary's being crossed when you refer to someone you don't even know well like you would with a sibling, good friend, or SO. I don't know.

No. 296281

Yeah I never thought that was right, either. You know them by their stage persona only anyway, address them by their stage name.

No. 296282

Yep. I should also add that you don't typically see Cardi B fans or Nicki Minaj fans refer to them by their real first names. It's so different with K-pop idols. I wonder if it's because of the pseudo-romantic relationships so many idols try to establish with their fans.

No. 296285

i don't mind them using real names only because i hate most kpop idols nicknames even more than i hate their stage names. i hate having to read shit like nabong and dubu used like i know who that is. taengoo is the worst, the word just sounds gross to me

No. 296288

I think it's dramatic to consider it crossing boundaries or offensive/rude to the idol in any way, if the idol was so worried about it they'd hide their real names properly. It's just a really embarassing and transparent attempt by the fan to seem 'close' to their idol, like how they can them 'our boys' etc. It's so performative and unnatural.

No. 296294

>Does anyone else have a problem with fans referring to idols by their real names?
Not really. A lot if not most idols use their given names as stage names anyway, so if the stage name were to create some form of boundary then where would that leave them? Regardless of whether idols use stage names a lot of their nicknames tend to be derived from their real names anyway, so in that case that should be even more intrusive but it’s completely normalized within the industry.

I agree that fans trying to act all intimate and buddy-buddy with idols like they know them IRL is kind of cringey but at the end of the day harms no-one and rather plays into the idol’s favor since a happy fan means yet another stan to buy albums and stream music to fuel their lifestyle.

No. 296298

Doesn't really bother me. IMO that kind of thing depends on how closely they tie their public image to their stage name. Like in this anon's example >>296282 I didn't even know Nicki Minaj's real name for years because she presents herself entirely under the name Nicki Minaj, whereas many idols refer to each other casually by their real names. People rarely call Taehyung "V", so I don't feel weird calling him Taehyung.

No. 296305

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No. 296307

so this is what eggman's been up to

No. 296308

holy fuck he looks exactly like eggman and mystery combined. lmao

No. 296334

>shes beautiful
shes literally a plastic michael jackson look alike

No. 296336

some idols really hate their stage names. jinyoung from got7 corrects fans who call him junior. i dont think its that serious.

No. 296337

I agree they are clearly trying to form some type of bond that isn’t there by using their real names. I could never bring myself to do it. It’s like stop… we are nothing but cash cows to them either way.

No. 296339

That’s different, he actually got rid of his stage name.

No. 296341

and namjoon went from rap monster to RM but even in interviews hes still called namjoon sometimes. yeah the name hierarchy and familiarity matters in korean society but who cares if western fans dont adhere to that, most of these threads are critical of korean society anyway. for fans its easier to say "hoseok" "minghao" instead of "j-hope" or "The8". there might be some weirdos out there who are using their real names to seem close but i think for most its just a convenience. most of the people in these threads use the idols real names but everyone here is supposed to be a kpop anti lol >>296339

No. 296342

i dont think its as deep as you guys think it is. i usually just use whichever name is more convenient or less stupid. i wont go out of my way to call suho junmyeon, but the name v bothers me and im definitely not calling someone fucking rapmonster

No. 296346

>yeah the name hierarchy and familiarity matters in korean society but who cares if western fans dont adhere to that
lol exactly anon. who cares whether western fans adhere to their hierarchy rules bc at the end of the day you'll probably get some shitty response from an ugly idol who goes by the stupidest stage name, "V."

No. 296347

Lmao it is NOT easier to say hoseok than jhope. quit lying. Most western fans can’t even pronounce their real names correctly. Y’all just want to sound like you know the real~ them, you’re not fooling anyone.

No. 296348

Yeah I knew these kboos who insisted on calling all idols by their real names, I cringed everytime I heard “hoseeuhk” and “tayhung”

It’s not convenient if you can’t even make your mouth form the correct sounds. What a lying cop out way to defend real koreaboo behavior

No. 296349

It’s honestly even beyond that now. BTS stan twitter and Tumblr is full of people who only refer to them by their designated fan pet names, like “Tae” and “Gguk”


I think so much of it comes from fan fiction culture or trying to emulate what K-fans do.

No. 296350

I thought they were talking about using the names online not actually speaking it. I wouldn't use either name irl because I don't talk about kpop outside of the internet lmao.

No. 296352

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you forgot lil meow meow anon LMAO

speaking of armys, how are taehyung/V's fans gonna edit his hair like this when they know damn well he has an entire football field for a forehead

No. 296353

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this one's worse

No. 296356

I’m sure there are millions of kpop fans around the world who butcher their real korean names out loud in misguided attempts to sound more authentic. Not to mention the fact that romanized Hangul is wildly insufficient.

V is way easier to type than taehyung which doesn’t even accurately depict what his name actually sounds like. There is no reason for I-fans to not use V, or RM, or rapmon, all of which are easier to type/say than namjoon. No reason to type seokjin, letters that don’t even sound anything like his real name, over Jin, yet loser armys across the internet do it anyway. There is no logical reason to do it, it just makes y’all feel better.

No. 296357

i think we all just need to accept that His name is rat mon.

No. 296358

i literally thought that was kris from exo

anyways ik it was talked about earlier on in the thread but i'm hoping that the "damage control" (vandalizing the bighit building with post-its and spamming the fancafe with WW2 and rants) that kfans are doing for BTS collabing w/ the Jap nationalist won't work hhh

I can't wait for korea to just blacklist BTS/Bighit and hopefully the same will happen here in America…forgetting Kpop ever existed bc just like their fans say "BTS paved the way."

No. 296359

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>anyways ik it was talked about earlier on in the thread but i'm hoping that the "damage control" (vandalizing the bighit building with post-its and spamming the fancafe with WW2 and rants)
yoooo holy shit is this real?? LMFAO if there's pics or articles please post the tea thank you

No. 296360

They do it because Kfans do it.

But it makes sense for Koreans to revert back to their real korean names, instead of strange bastardized konglish names that make no sense to them. Of course it’s easier for K-fans to type/say names that actually exist in their everyday lives. Not to mention you can hardly fantasize someone is your boyfriend when you have to call them “jayee hopuh oppa” or whatever lmao

International fans though? They are just trying to feel like they’re a part of the in crowd too. But as we went over in the last thread, your idols don’t consider you real fans anyway.

No. 296361

Don't vandalize poor poor bighit :((( don't protest guise :(((

No. 296362

wow, look at these terrorists; destroying the golden walls of bighit with their dollar store post it notes.

No. 296363

a lot of intl armys are telling karmys to stop posting shit under bts posts lmaoooo and intl armys are just spamming bts with their cringy ass i purple you shit

No. 296364

I’m actually surprised that i-armys are not being very understanding, since they like to brag about how women they are etc you’d think they’d understand the issues

No. 296365

the i purple you has to be some of the most retarded shit. anytime i see a failed attempt to do an "i purple you" event at the airport like they're any better than crazy fans who come to harass their idols i laugh.

No. 296367

"the boys aint that stupid to support that neo nazi. the boys know better."

hhh i'm so glad i left those delusional ass fandoms. it's just like when bts did a whole photoshoot at a holocaust memorial. maybe i should post those pictures under bts posts for fun and freshen armys memories.

No. 296370

get a vpn or smth before you do that shit; them hoes don't play lmaooooo

No. 296371

a lot of i-armys hate k-armys especially on twitter. and the fact that some k-armys aren't shielding bts/bighit probably makes i-armys angrier since you're supposed to put bts over everything no matter how big or small of a scandal it is.

No. 296372

this whole controversy has me dying. armies were just talking about how jin has them by the balls and how involved they are in their careers but now that this shit happens its ALL bang pds fault. lololol i cant

No. 296377

Tbh it's kinda weird that they insist on using idols' real names but can't even pronounce their names correctly after watching videos of them 24/7. It's normal that non-Koreans are having trouble pronouncing their names at first but the fans hear these names everyday.

No. 296383

normally i wouldnt really give a fuck but armys and other kpop fans are so transparent in the way they use the idols real names in order to feel closer to them. ive seen people make twitter posts where they admit this very thing. its cringey and referring to them by their stage names in the context of their career as a performance artist just makes more sense. but how could they pretend the idol is their uwu boyfriend/girlfriend if they're calling them shit like rapmon lol

No. 296387

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I’ve never quite understood the hype Suzy gets from K-pop fans and the public in Korea. They always make her out to be some ethereal goddess and of of the top visuals of her era. She’s pretty but very vanilla. In my opinion, she can’t hold a candle to Fei when it comes to looks (but Koreans probably don’t seem fond of Fei cuz she’s Chinese and tan, unfortunately).

No. 296415

>you're supposed to put bts over everything no matter how big or small of a scandal it is.

this is so wild, BTS fans are just one giant cult

No. 296418

>BTS just gets first big scandal
>ARMY also gets it first big scandal


Nice how they don't want to lag behind their Oppas.

No. 296420

This whole streaming obsession is so stupid, everyone knows these numbers don't represent the actual number of people BTS is reaching. I understand that they are trying to break records but 10 random people listening the song once is more valuable than the same 1 fan listening to the same song 10 times.
I hope something like that never happens to anyone but I'm afraid army's stupidity might cause something really bad one day. Some of them don't realize that they are damaging their oppars and uwu baby boys more than anyone else

No. 296424

>tweet openly about cheating the system on a pretty impressive scale
>uhmm guys if any reporters want to talk about this stuff DON'T talk to them they'll TWIST YOUR WORDS and make us out to be CHEATERS
Thanks for posting this anon, gave me a laugh.
Yeah, this stuff only harms BTS. The more they're puffed up in the media as "global artists" (using Spotify numbers as proof etc) the more humiliating it's going to be when it becomes clear that only their fans know who they are, and they fade back into obscurity. As compared to everyone and their dog knowing Gangnam Style. In the UK we had fucking Ed Balls dancing to it on Strictly, people dancing to it at their weddings, etc. That's the kind of popularity with the general public BTS will never achieve.
Sorry to rant a bit more, but part of me wishes that they could just be a popular group in SK/Asia and among Kpop fans, but having the BTS-as-global-megastars hype is setting a standard for them that I just don't believe they can live up to. It's the difference between them having a good career by any normal standard and being set an immensely high standard of "global megastars" that they can't achieve and by THAT standard being a failure. Seems a shame.

No. 296427

i don't think any measure of popularity (expect possibly conterts and tours) is going to be a very accurate reflection of reality so i hate how obsessed with them kpop fans are. people buying 10+ copies of an album seriously inflates the numbers. there's always going to be chinese millionaires buying crates of albums but it's so common now that r/kpop threads about album releases nearly always have some comments like "how many copies is everyone getting, i was thinking 6 this time". i really think album sales could easily be halved in a lot of cases if the numbers were a reflection of purchasers and not purchases. probably more than that in some cases!

No. 296435

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>baby j
lmao who in bighit even thought that these stage names were good ideas and actually suggested them

No. 296447

>Names like Baby J and Kid were some options
I'm shuddering at the thought of a grown ass man having those names and how his creepy fans would twist that around for their weird fetishes. But then I remember that it happens anyway

>I'm pretty when I smile and because I'm sweet

>My name has the deepest meaning
Holy shit get over yourselves lmao. Don't strain your hand from jerking off your intellectual selves too hard

No. 296451

>Baby J
More like "baby cow" amirite

No. 296454

The comment section is amazingly salty, thank you for this article.

No. 296455

This highlights what it means to be a Kpop stan. Fans are basically pressured to stream and vote for stupid shit that don't matter in the long run. If the GP don't like you, then the GP don't like you.

So, it's always funny to me when BTS performs they get "genuine" tweets about who certain members are. No one cares for them here, they aren't a household name.

No. 296457

i agree anon. i can understand her hype of being pretty, because she is very pretty, but this top ethereal goddess who makes everyone faint when they see her from even a mile away? i've seen so many other idols who have a clean image like her and look a lot better but her ground is unwavering. she also has gotten a shit ton of fairly obvious plastic surgery (which i think has made her look worse than she did before) but k-netz insist she hasn't. also, her acting is terrible.

No. 296458

the way kpop companies have kpoppies snatched by the balls seriously amazes me every time. think about it: we all know the physical album business is dying, and that's what makes artists and companies a good amount of money outside of touring. streaming doesn't do jack shit for them. so they get their stupid rich (sometimes not even rich–just stupid) fans to care about irrelevant charts and titles that convinces them to buy a shit ton of albums just to get them to the top of that chart. sometimes these fans buy them in the bulk, whether it's 10, 30, or 500.
shoot, haven't exo-ls and armies managed to get EXO and BTS to "over" a million album sales just from their bulk buying?

and kpop companies know just a CD won't work, because barely anybody uses them, so they stuff them with a bunch of merchandise like a photo book and cards and stickers and shit. and they make each one individualized by each member of their big ass groups, so fans feel the need to buy a bunch of albums just to get the one they want, since companies make sure not to make it possible to choose which one you'd want a majority of the time.

sorry for the thesis ya'll, i just had to get this out, anytime i think about how much these kpop companies have finessed the physical album business it gets me going LMAO

No. 296459

It’s not that weird that they can’t say them correctly because korean has sounds that English (or whatever other language they speak) doesn’t have. Vise versa too. It’s not natural for them to pronounce a name like jungkook correctly, they don’t know that the k sounds are really in between a g and a k and the last consonant shouldn’t be aspirated at all. Especially korean vowels are so much more rounded than American English ones. Even something as simple as “tae” gets said as “tay” naturally by many English speakers when it really should be a flat “teh” and the stressed words/syllables in korean are different than in English too. Obviously they can’t be perfect and Koreans can’t pronouce English names perfectly either, but when there is an easier to write/pronounce option handed to fans on a silver platter and they choose to instead butcher Korean names and act like it’s just ~easier? Embarrassing.

No. 296464

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This woman looks in her 40s. Older BTS fans are really pathetic.

No. 296470

>there is an easier to write/pronounce option handed to fans on a silver platter and they choose to instead butcher Korean names and act like it’s just ~easier? Embarrassing.
Agreed, that's what I was thinking as well. I used to study Korean so I understand what you mean. I agree that "Jeongguk" or "Taehyung" aren't the easiest names to pronounce for someone who doesn't speak Korean, I said it's normal that non-Koreans are having trouble pronouncing their real names, but it's weird when these fans constantly hear the correct pronunciations in videos where members talk with each other, yet still pronounce their names wrong.
I saw some video where a shipper was trying to analyze Taehyung and Jeongguk to prove that Taekook is real. She went really deep, went through so many details and obviously watched tons of videos to find proofs, but she was pronouncing their names completely wrong lol. It's funny that they think they know everything about them when they can't even pronounce their names correctly

No. 296478

Enlarge the picture, it's just a man with long hair and lipstick.

No. 296503

can someone please tell me wtf is this i purple you shit?

No. 296507

its weird because shes super pretty to me but she also has such a western look to her
she looks like a white girl to me

No. 296509

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v said this and it became a phrase

No. 296510

Wow, and ARMYs will continue to pass off the inane, pseudo-deep stuff he says as meaningful.

No. 296511

jesus his hair constantly looks retarded.

No. 296512

Ofc the most autistic member says this shit. I bet the only reason the use it is bc it sounds stupid and they don't what taehyungie~~ to feel bad~~

No. 296513

i ain’t gonna lie he looks hot as hell here

No. 296514

The thing this mother of five doesn't realise is those people she listed have been building their careers in the US music industry (the biggest music industry in the world, might I add) for more years than BTS and have the GP's attention. BTS' hype is gonna quickly go downhill next year and I can't wait to sit back and watch their fans wonder what happened.

No. 296515

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how did they manage to get progressively more retarded looking damn.


No. 296517

Their awful colored contacts are more nitceable in the second photo. Also the greater amount of clout they have now means that they fave more fans praising their (non-existent) visuals.

No. 296518

this actually makes me upset IMO

I became a fan during hyyh and I really liked the music they were putting out and they all looked average. Now they look like lizards and their music is no longer basic shit everyone can enjoy but its just loud horse shit that includes the vocal line (Jimin + Jin) screaming. The only competent performer is hoseok but he fucked up his face so…

No. 296519

>but its just loud horse shit that includes the vocal line (Jimin + Jin) screaming
let's not act like this is some recent thing with their music and that jimin didn't consistently screech that one note out in let me know. i'd also say their music is more basic than it's ever been before. other than that i agree with everything else you said lmaoo

No. 296520

As much as I rag on ARMYs and BTS now, I’m in a similar boat as you. It’s possible that maybe I just outgrew them and my tastes change, but I remember their music being okay (for K-pop standards) pre-Wings. Like, it was never as ground-breaking and ~ w o k e ~ but they had some fun and/or chill songs. I felt like the members were more humble/down-to-earth too (or at least were way better at pretending they were). Glad I never spent any money supporting this dumpster fire of a group.

No. 296522

why do jimins teeth look like they were surgically inserted from a diagram? didnt he used to have jacked up teeth?

No. 296528

they look all creepy and shit.

No. 296530

anon he looks like downs syndrome harry potter

No. 296534

Anon love urself

No. 296536

I think the enjoyability BTS' music started to go downhill ever since their sound started become less hip-hop. Their rappers are okay for the industry's standards, their vocalists could be considered okay if the group stayed rap-focused. The vocal line of BTS is so weak compared to the other vocal-focused Kpop groups. The Love Yourself albums were so mediocre, Idol and DNA were weak title tracks. I'm curious what they are going to come up with next, they need to drop the generic sound. I don't know if they will try to improve when armys don't care about the quality of their music and will hype anything they put out anyway though.

No. 296537

I wonder how much dirt dispatch has on bighit and bts. With all these scandals with bts and the Japanese collab, I hope dispatch just spills the beans already
With Army's expired victim card will not help them if those scandals are proven true
I've been listening to other less popular groups like Astro/SF9 and I've come to realize that these bands among many others can outperform any bts member in vocals and dance area

No. 296539

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No. 296540

Im the OP, i know its not some recent thing. Bts vocals were never good to begin, esp when it comes to live singing. But at least the studio vers. of their songs were tolerable and songs I could listen to daily. But now, I dunno about all that. I just stay away from their music to save my ears.

No. 296541

Damn Jimin. It's not Halloween yet

No. 296544

jimin is making rapmon look human in comparison lately

No. 296546

if bighit fall out with bts there's going to be a lot of scandals all at once. all the dirt dispatch has ignored over the years while they accept money to stay quiet is going to just explode. a dating scandal, a member being rude and throwing away fan gifts, a member smoking (is anyone in bts already known as a smoker?), blind items obviously hinting at them drinking and having questionable habits with women…

No. 296547

correct me if i'm remembering wrong, but wasn't taemin or some senior idol smoking around jimin or some member of BTS? or was it an EXO member and i'm mixing groups up? but either it's very possible whoever they were they were both smoking.

No. 296548

File: 1537128784813.jpg (75.37 KB, 1017x1003, 385c58cbe9ff5fe8a3c45b317db733…)

samefag; it was taemin with jimin but it looks like he was just vaping.

No. 296550

File: 1537129312108.gif (18.65 KB, 268x164, uggo.gif)

I don't know how to fucking save a full .gif in Photoshop CS4 but I tried

No. 296553

suga used to smoke, he might still im not sure

No. 296558

A post I read by a K-pop insider claimed that despite the 'clean' image most idols are expected to uphold, about 7/10 smoke regularly (although the media makes it seem like 3/10 do).

No. 296567

File: 1537135134491.jpg (66.83 KB, 800x533, unblended.jpg)

this reminded me of you guys

No. 296568

I find the armys who infantilize bts instead of sexualizing them a lot more creepy.
They're grown men, I'm sure it's possible they've smashed and dashed more than their fair share of strange pussy. But nah oppa is a pure innocent smol baby boi who respects women and is a virgin because korea is conservative uwu uwu

No. 296570

that's mostly naive teenage girls though, they'll grow out of it.

No. 296572

is that lay?
man what happened

No. 296574

So now my favorite color is ruined. Thanks.

No. 296598

File: 1537144812833.jpg (66.61 KB, 725x724, no.JPG)

found this shit recommended on tumblr
now bts has ruined Heathers for me

No. 296605

Just read the whole thread. Saesangs are creepy as shit.

Thread: https://twitter.com/exposethread/status/1041022809688834048

No. 296613

seems like your typical wannabe groupie shit

No. 296616

Jesus christ how fucking cringe…

No. 296635

File: 1537151648383.png (159.05 KB, 741x457, 6j3ICuy.png)

Agreed. Not really creepy, just a sad, desperate fangirl trying to see the boybander she likes in person and then staring him. I think chances are pretty high that she made it up anyway. The only thing I found disturbing was the fact that she was willing to drop $800 to get a glance at precious Jungkook.

Pic was hilarious though.

No. 296641

this is such a desperate attempt to be noticed by bts, it failed and they are still willing to spend money to go to new york for them lmao. these people who follow bts around are weird, like what do you even expect? oppar is going to propose to you the moment you two breathe in the same room together? i doubt that bts interacts with groupies, they are trying so hard to stay drama free.

No. 296647

I'm more fascinated by these saesang cows than the idols. Any other saesang stories or infamous saesangs I can read up about?

No. 296649

I went to a kpop concert this year alone(plz no roast) and while in line I was stuck talking to a saesang (I later found her social media and it checked out). She had been to every stop at the tour and apparently found out which flights the group was going to be on (through saesang sites) and booked seats for herself. She bragged about essentially harassing them in the airportLike she legitimately thought she was flirting with one of the members.

She told me about how she was passing a note to the member she harassed (said that he started it lol) and then got in trouble when the member told a flight attendant to get her to leave him alone. It was an incredibly bizarre experience. Everything she said about essentially stalking them she twisted to make it sound like the member she liked was into it. Saesangs are truly delusional. I could go on about this experience because she said so much shit that made her sound crazy and almost dangerous but kept talking to her because she was fascinating. She was also in her early 30's I believe. A big part of me thinks she made it all up, which is weirder to me for some reason. I have an easier time believing she was a saesang because kpop fans are nuts and she had crazy eyes

Sorry for blogpost

No. 296650


So let me get this straight. She paid probs several hundred dollars to stay at the Ritz in the hope of meeting JK… The crazy bitch actually made it into the same room as him (the gym) and she didn't even talk to him? That's what I'm gathering; is that they sort of just shared a glance. If you've gone to all that effort to get close to them would you not at least try and speak to them and say hi?

No. 296653

File: 1537156784817.gif (1.95 MB, 268x294, tumblr_ozz1tsdBEw1vm89vlo1_400…)

even weirder is when the people who infantilize them also want to fuck them?? like what is up with that weird shit; go outside for once in your life damn.

throwback to when the stylist noonas or whatever gave jhorse these retarded instagram brows lmaooo

No. 296654

Honestly, I'm not sure if it's because the overdone insta brows/botched ps combo is super common on social media or what, but his looks are actually a bit more palatable here

No. 296660

Exo - Wolf, was such a mess, I can't believe you can make a group debut with this weird cringy shit (I will put you in my mouth like cheese, I'm a wolf, I'm a wolf awoooo) and have it be successful…

No. 296663

This is hilarious. Honestly ngl I bet most fans would do the exact same shit but they're acting all above it.

No. 296664

NGL, it's funny as fuck watching this BTS-Aki P scandal just for the righteousness international fans are feeling over the Koreans. The bitterness over not being the home market is really showing.
And no shit a self-proclaimed soft power export would promote Korean ideals, which includes disavowing anything they believe is linked to Japanese imperialism. Funny how many expect Kpop to understand their political sensibilities and then get outraged over Koreans expecting their own pop scene to uphold their own.

No. 296665

silly anon, they debuted with corny social commentary, gregorian chants, an apocalyptic dance break and a majestic display of their superpowers… Which obviously flopped.

Jokes aside, everytime I see Kai laughing at girl groups' choreographies I just want to shove every single wolf performance into his face and remind him that he's no longer a ballet dancer but a glorified stripper.

No. 296668

it makes me laugh so hard when fans criticize girl groups for having stupid or sexual dances that are all the same (which a lot of them are, don't get me wrong) but then turn around and say how complex and ~unique~ boy group dances are. boy groups have just as retarded dance routines and do just as much fan service in their dances as girl groups do. also, i think the only time i ever enjoyed a boy group covering a girls song was when seventeen does it, as they actually attempt to do it well. boy groups doing ridiculous covers of girl groups were funny the first few times, but now it's just annoying.

also, what is it with fans thinking every song needs a complex dance routine to it? and then they all want them to sing live? and make it 100% perfect every time? like there's nothing wrong with high standards, but you're going to have to choose 2 out of 3 a majority of the time–they can't sing live, have insane dance routines, and hit every note and move perfectly at the same time.

kpop songs are almost always the same: ridiculous high notes, rap break, bridge, hook-oriented, break down, and a mixed beat.

No. 296672

idk why that pic attached reminded me of that time taehyung/V played in that one drama he was in and there was a scene where a majority of the major (?) male cast were in a shower scene and were shirtless but taehyung/V was omitted from the scene lmaooo.

No. 296676

I got into kpop not too long ago, maybe a year or so, before that I just listened to the few songs my friends showed me but I decided that I wanted to see what was the hype about and learn some dances since they seemed fun, needless to say that after I discovered fancams I got pretty disappointed. Once you realize that the formula of kpop choreographies is having a group of mediocre dancers (to take advantage of the cheerleader effect) + good camera work you won't see them the same way.

And yeah, boy groups usually have harder dances but that doesn't make them any better when 1. the routines are just bad and look retarded 2. half of the members don't know how to dance (vid related at 4:22).

>the only time i ever enjoyed a boy group covering a girls song was when seventeen

agreed. they seem to take it as seriously as they take their own songs (at least from the videos I've seen) and if it's just an act at least they're being respectful, although it may have to do with the fact that they have fairly cute concepts, like adore u, pretty u or mansae and they're used to it.

And speaking of those songs. I honestly don't hate cute concepts on gg the problem is that they're so passive and boring. You can be energetic and have initiative while being cute and charming… But no, of course they have to act like clueless kids for their uncle fans, instead of doing a fun and somewhat challenging choreo while singing about how the boy you like makes you feel happy when he laughs or something like that.

No. 296679

This came up on my recommended. She's really reaching uncanny valley status, unless she has some sort of filter or something to make her look more like a soulless doll. This is the future of your idols lol, they get more plastic by the minute.

No. 296681

people keep talking about her making a big comeback but I'd be surprised if her song even charts well. Just looking at her makes me sad.

No. 296683

File: 1537167094650.jpg (Spoiler Image, 244.92 KB, 1000x1500, 1458535074417_linda-a003.jpg)

She literally looks like a real doll. I feel kind of bad for her, she must have some serious image issues to go that extent.

No. 296684

I don't understand why korean fans don't want their idols to collab with japanese artists. It doesn't make sense since they put out japanese songs. Why do their fans not complain about that?

No. 296689

File: 1537169201350.png (221.68 KB, 550x571, d9f3789c1639e5c30090a85d862b01…)

Seems like she wasn't the main aggressor afterall https://www.soompi.com/article/1231593wpp/goo-hara-shares-side-story-assault-incident-boyfriend
>Goo Hara shared her diagnoses from the gynecologist and orthopedist. The diagnosis from the gynecologist reads, “uterus and vagina hemorrhage.” The orthopedist’s presumptive diagnosis lists, “cervical sprain,” “facial contusions and sprain,” “lower leg contusions and sprain,” “right forearm and additional sprains.”

No. 296697

She got raped and physically assaulted by her abusive boyfriend, tried to defend herself and SHE has to apologize.

I fucking hate everything

No. 296720

cause koreans are mad racist. they want japan to like them and they want to make music in japan because they're oh so much better at japanese.

No. 296724

i don't hate bts but they've made so many songs about not giving a fuck about their haters they started to contradict themselves lmao

No. 296728

their love yourself albums don't make sense. If they love being idols(apparently that's what idol is about)they have to understand that not everyone is going to like them.
Most of their songs contradict itself

No. 296736

not to mention jimin clearly doesnt love himself, and yet they gave him the line 'you can't stop me loving myself' in idol. i mean the guy constantly obsesses about not being thin and attractive enough, hides his real eyes with those freaky lenses, hides his face with picture filters and starves himself. i think it's sad that he feels that way about himself but it also means i can't take him seriously saying 'too bad haters cause i love myself anyway'. he wouldnt even look that bad if he just started eating and stopped getting work done

No. 296746

Are they American or Filipino? They don't look that Filipino. Maybe Chinese-Filipino?

No. 296748

looking like paola from 90 day fiance lmao

No. 296861

File: 1537221764898.jpg (70.06 KB, 640x960, DnTYgCzW4AAr0mJ.jpg)

Found this on some thread via the usual "uwu stream some shitty bts song, look at my beautiful kings" how bliND

No. 296868

File: 1537222819688.png (1.99 MB, 1900x1316, Screen Shot 2018-09-17 at 6.19…)

what the fuck am i looking at here? taehyung/v's head this big or smth?

No. 296870

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No. 296874

i'm more surprised he didn't use that repulsive filter jimin and rat mon use all the time.

No. 296878

wew those pores

No. 296893

File: 1537227619713.gif (1.01 MB, 540x208, 5F49E05C-8ABD-474F-BCF4-E1A34B…)

No. The back of his head is flat. You are looking at a bunch of layers and probably extensions to give his head the illusion of shape and to hide his giant forehead.

No. 296894

File: 1537227921553.png (1.54 MB, 794x1196, Screen Shot 2018-09-17 at 6.14…)

his long ass forehead doesn't help either

No. 296910

I remember an American interview where the interviewer commented on how their skin is “so nice!!” when really she just wasn’t used to seeing a bunch of grown ass men caked in makeup

No. 296921

He looks like a pissed off dead person

No. 297062

File: 1537273108172.jpg (2.05 MB, 2100x1500, 1600205-hope-1.jpg)

I'm guessing J hope is finally transitioning..?

No. 297067

j hope is that one idol who looks bad with and without makeup. he should have stuck to his 2013-2014 look. Now he looks creepy

No. 297068

File: 1537274576205.jpg (38.96 KB, 696x400, snl-korea-plastic-face-1.jpg)

No. 297109

No. 297130

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looks like pale kris jenner

No. 297168

they seriously do look like him, makes them even more uncanny

also lol @ them being supposed to be caricatures of the south korean ps beauty ideal and end up looking like jhope of all people lmao the irony

No. 297174

The sexism and obsession with looks is so bad in Korea, that apperantly the 3 scratches on her ex's face are much worse than Hara's internal bleeding.

>There could be a chance that she realized she's in the wrong so she hurt herself and went to get medical records of it. If a man really wanted to beat her, it wouldn't have just ended in bruises like that.

>Hmm… if the man really wanted to beat her, he could've really done it, and yet she has no bruises on her face… I feel like she was just in a state of rage and hurt herself. If a man really wanted to beat her, like I said, he could just end her life.

>She shouldn't be smiling in a situation like this. Either way, she scratched up someone's face, that's not a laughing matter.

>She gutted that man's face…

>Just look at that man's face. His flesh has been cut off. If I were him, me too I would've lost my temper and would've contacted Dispatch everyday. We don't even know the conclusion yet but people are too much.

inb4 this is not the anti-korea thread!1!1

No. 297178

There are plenty of Koreans who are defending Hara tho kek If you dont want to make it into an anti korean thread, maybe stop posting websites with cherry picked comments in english and read actual korean comments posted on sites where people with more central views post before painting a whole country a certain way

No. 297182

>read actual korean comments posted on sites where people with more central views post before painting a whole country a certain way
yeaahhh i remember my days of falling for netizenbuzz comments and thinking they were what the majority of koreans thought. nbuzz really sucks so much, it's insane that people still even take that website seriously outside of just visiting it from boredom.

No. 297317

File: 1537323945418.jpg (123.73 KB, 500x548, plastic-surgery-twins-1.jpg)


He needs to stop with the fillers or he is gonna look like this creepy twins in a few years. It's better to be ugly instead of a plastic surgery abomination.

No. 297320

>Funny how many expect Kpop to understand their political sensibilities and then get outraged over Koreans expecting their own pop scene to uphold their own.

Exactly this. Recall when Zico got torn to shreds for having a tiny confederate flag on his jacket, pretty sure most Koreans have no idea wtf it even is or means. Yet kpoppers will still screech YOU HAVE THE INTERNET YOU HAVE NO EXCUSE!!! so, how about you too then??

No. 297322

Anon, you could have taken 2 seconds to google Japanese imperialism but instead you choose to be a raging autist. Astounding.

No. 297324

I think that in the case of the AkiP thing, the issue that some non-Korean fans had was that most of the 'evidence' was stuff that was deliberately misinterpreted and/or straight up fabricated by knetizens for ~reasons~.

No. 297329

i wouldn't be surprised if a lot of it has to do with the fact that kpoppies and weaboos go hand in hand; therefore, they don't know how to cope with both their precious fetish nations disliking each other. personally i don't care either way, japan and korea understandably have some deep-seated issues between each other and it most likely won't be resolved for decades. it's just funny seeing how much this issue blew up for BTS and i-armys getting a lil taste of a true scandal that they can't control for once.

No. 297333

File: 1537330011650.jpeg (24.17 KB, 235x343, 53F71BCC-E17D-4806-8CA3-38883C…)

Ok why tf is Vernon wearing an MDMA shirt?? Who ok’d this???

No. 297341

Just seems like edgy t-shirt engrish to me.

No. 297364

it's an advertisement for an upcoming documentary. even if it was an edgy engrish shirt, vernon would have no excuse seeing as he's from NY.

No. 297365

*no excuse for not knowing

No. 297410

Does BTS even care about their music or its their label that want that shit out for money?
It's sad that before they used to put out good music, take constructive criticism and do something about it but now they take criticism as hating just like their fandom

No. 297442

anon all kpop groups exist to make money first, music second

No. 297448

That's just sad

No. 297517

>good music
anon please

No. 297550

This is weird…

No. 297584

Why can’t she just go with her real name? She’s done with SNSD, she’s never considered Tiffany her name and referred to herself as Stephi on IG before going solo, ugh. I get it’s what she’s known as and branding is important and yada yada but it’s just so awkward. SM just called her Tiffany because Stephanie wasn’t spechul enough.

No. 297596

Oddly enough, the name Stephanie is sounds better than Tiffany. Slightly off-topic but reading her old Xanga posts from her pre-debut days is a trip. One example:

>» song of the day « » BABy DOnT CRy - TUPAc «

>errrr -_-x my head + eyes hurt a griPp x\ n' sorry that ii didnt go to flute choir for those flute choir memberz… u guys could do goot out with out me anyways.. errr yawn anyways ii started that new drama " neh een seng eh kong kkak jjee " whoo itz goot xP PARK GWANG HYUN hes foinne =] he looks like SOH J1 SUp =] roflz a younger cuter version of him =] n' ii watched CHUN NYUN J1AE it was hella goot the japanese guy is frikkin hot his names like hujiouara taseuji in the drama or whateverz that fooz hella foinne though >.< oh yesss n' ii found that kwon sang woo + kim min jung music video ii was looking for ii was lie " o_O durooLx " when ii saw the music video whOoO kwon sang wooz hella jal sseng gyu ssuh >.< aiigOhz my head is hurting n' so are my eyes -_-x ii should go take another napP or something.. omg spring breakz almost over n' ii didnt do shit cept go out wid my ppgz.. oh well there goot enough mwoahahahahahaha errmmmm.. yeaPpP made my xangah purple =] ii dont know why but ii wanted a new color xD mwoahahah well im out..


No. 297609

File: 1537377780510.jpg (59.31 KB, 460x233, h42mrnF.jpg)

Jessi though lol

No. 297610

anon their music was at least better than the music they produce now

No. 297612

I'd rather listen to tomorrow or i need you than idol any day. their music at that time wasn't that bad

No. 297635

kind of makes me sad that we don't have websites like xanga and myspace and others of the sort like we did back then. now so much as following or unfollowing someone on instagram is "news" worthy and it's just not as interesting. stan twitter is just annoying and retarded.

No. 297639

would be so cool to be able to find all of the idols pre debut social media but k netizens are AMAZING at wiping peoples histories its weird as shit

like they have all this stuff and just sit on it to "protect their oppas and unnies" until they get mad at them then they release it at the risk of being arrested for it

the internet is so weird over there

No. 297651

File: 1537381719602.jpeg (45.52 KB, 500x377, 161AC011-D2A5-4385-B735-F39D3C…)

You’d think that someone like Tiffany wouldn’t be friends with someone like Jessi at first glance. Then you look at their pre-debut posts and then see how similar the two actually are.

Anyway, Jessi is basically like a Gangnam unnie with tan skin. Seeing her pre-debut photos shocked me a little.

No. 297653

File: 1537381955797.jpeg (58.56 KB, 571x800, F4FA0537-C8EE-497E-B7DF-403ECC…)

And here’s her now. I like her being kind of like an anti-idol but she straight up looks so cartoonish nowadays.

No. 297658

wasn't she the one that talked mad shit about boa or smth on xanga once and sm/boa stans never forgave her for it? lmaooo

No. 297660

File: 1537382552478.jpeg (31.41 KB, 462x376, 4C517BE2-812F-4EE6-9342-10EB4A…)

Yep. Jessi gets away with being a dumb bitch because she’s the token ABG/“bold” tan-skinned chick in a sea of copy-and-paste ghost-faced idols who aren’t even allowed to cuss without people making a big deal about it.

No. 297672

i think this shit is hilarious. if jessie was "bold" enough to say something so minuscule on social media you gotta wonder what other idols say about each other behind each others backs. i think it would be interesting to be a fly on the wall at a music bank or something, probably so much shit is said by all these "innocent" uwu~~boys and girls. just look at that one time wanna one didn't realize they were being filmed and in those few minutes almost blew their reputation with the gp lmaoooo

No. 297674

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“B-But oppar didn’t mean it!!!~ uwu”

Anyway >pic related is unnerving to look at. When will these Korean make-up artists learn?

No. 297676

iirc jessi claimed to be in one of the american asian hardcore female gangs as well

wish i could find that but i cant remember when i read it
probably when she was trying for the rapstar thing or whatever a few years back

No. 297678

>I'd rather listen to tomorrow or i need you than idol any day.
same, these 2 are some of their best songs. i find their pre-wings stuff enjoyable, dope, just one day, tomorrow, baepsae, cypher 2&3. their latest albums seem so rushed compared to their earlier music.

i think the video for i need u was pretty good. as i remember that video was made with a tight budget, they used their manager's car and they used the bighit staff as actors because they couldn't afford extras at that time. it's better most of the pretentious pseudo-intellectual videos they make nowadays.

No. 297686

>just look at that one time wanna one didn't realize they were being filmed and in those few minutes almost blew their reputation with the gp lmaoooo
pls elaborate

for me their best ones are i need u, run and butterfly. they’re nice to listen to (imo) and are emotional in a way that feels more raw and not pseudo-philosophical/-intellectual. they also feel more genuine because they’re not stuffed full with fake-deep bullshit that seems pulled out of their ass.

No. 297690

>pls elaborate

i just linked the first article that i saw but just type in "wanna one cussing" or scandal or smth and you'll find more about it

No. 297691

Lmao, reminds me of Yubin's "I want a bottom bitch" scandal

No. 297695

wtf i love wanna one now

No. 297707

i really wanna know what members said the more vulgar things oh my god it would be fun to go through member by member

also after reading it i ended up on this article: https://www.8days.sg/sceneandheard/entertainment/people-are-turning-against-choi-siwon-after-his-dog-causes-death-9343440#slideshow-1
such an absurd scandal for a superstar to be caught up in. very tragic though. may the lady rest in peace.

No. 297715

File: 1537388919060.png (238.1 KB, 540x367, tumblr_inline_pf9mnpYUoX1ux23s…)

damn jimin looking emaciated as fuck. no comment on jhorse.

No. 297716

samefagging just to add that i read more into who said what and i’ll forever remember guanlin as handjob guy from now on lmao

i want more incidents like this, especially regarding male idols. it’s aggravating to know gg members get lynched for the most minuscule shit while bg members can do far more ~scandalous~ things and not get nearly as much crap for it. more bg milk plz @ kpop.

No. 297717

is she still in the closet too?

No. 297728

Like every idol. Amber is even more obvious, lives in the USA and is still in the closet even though she's not fooling anyone

No. 297732

amber very well might never come out because of her family and how ingrained mega church christianity is in the community she grew up in
i actually have more hope for korean idols in korea who arent as super into western religion to come out, despite koreas general homophobia, than i do for idols like her and siwon

No. 297733

IIRC it's because there was already a girl group with a member named Stephanie

No. 297735

yep and she had gone on to become a successful solo artist at that point

No. 297750

"successful" is a generous term for anything regarding CSJH The Grace

No. 297752

she was well known enough for it to have been an issue for tiffany to go by stephanie

No. 297817

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Am I the only one that doesn't find Loona all that appealing? They are pretty boring with that over done concept. Their company has so much money and yet they are always wearing the same v neck sweather and tennis skirt. It's cringe af how Kim Lip and Olivia is always singing about eclipses and being an egotist in their songs. They have 0 synergy and it doesn't help how they are constantly segregated into their sub groups when they dance, stand next to each other, photoshoots, etc. I really don't see Loona lasting for anymore than 2 years

No. 297822

This looks like naughty high schooler porn

No. 297825

As far as I know, Christianity is huge in Korea, though.

No. 297826

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i like loona, most of them are a bunch of cute girls who seem to not have ruined their faces yet, excluding Vivi lmaooo
their personalities are pretty great too

But their company is honestly gonna make em flop if they keep up with same shit over and over again, especially after their debut project a lot of people have high expectations. Also, 12 members is overkill and that white face shit Korean entertainment loves so much gotta go.

No. 297828

I'm pretty neutral towards them, but the hype confuses me. I kept hearing about how they're so unique and atypical, but when I listened to their stuff I found a lot of the songs were disjointed and didn't have a coherent melody. I liked Eclipse the most, but that's not saying much considering I found it to be really forgettable.

No. 297833

the younger generation by and large has been more receptive to homosexuality, and there have been plenty of idols who have spoken in support of it
the ones that spam religious quotes on twitter all day on their days off are usually the closet cases
the average christian in korea isnt extreme in their views unless they have lived in america/are friends with americans

No. 297834

Uniformed debuts are pretty common, but I'm tired of seeing them repeat colors after introducing a new one, especially if the new colors feature different cuts for the members. It must be confusing as fuck for the general audience, too, because Olivia, Hyunjin, and to a lesser extent, Choerry, are easily mixed up in a group of 12 girls dressed identically. I dunno why they're not using their individual colors to familiarize each girl, like Red Velvet and Oh My Girl did.

With the amount of fillers getting pumped into them, the girls all look mighty tight and swollen. Yves is hot as fuck, but they need to let her chin settle or something.

For the best interest of my music enjoyability, I hope they have a healthy run, but I can easily imagine them unable to make back their investment and disbanding or amassing a BTS-rivalling insane fandom to their detriment.

No. 297837

I'm honestly not shocked at the thought of them pumping fillers into every member, including the minors

No. 297840

30% of the population is christian.

No. 297844

the average korean christian is not evangelical unless the person associates frequently with americans or attends a church frequented by missionairies

amber literally attends a formosan church
its not typical for asians to be super involved in westernized religious practices unless they are influenced by missionairies or westerners
the average koreans disapproval of homosexulaity is not religiously based, its culturally based and the younger generations are shifting away from the idea that its abnormal

No. 297846

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What the hell is this? Seems to be a China boy group under JYP, with kids reeeeally young, from 11 to 14. The teasers and images are so grown up and make me uncomfortable, like they make the little kids stare at the camera like regular idols. And they use makeup on them and stuff, but the worst is the comments. I haven't seen anything straight pedo but they are already fangirling about small kids and I can just image 20 year old women on the other side of the keyword. Some comments I saw for the teaser of the youngest member, 11 years old.


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No. 297851

im HOPING the comments are mostly kids/young teens though even that could be weird

No. 297852

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maybe they see them as sons or whatever but I can't imagine why anyone would want to stan someone that young.

No. 297853

omg, they are literal children. This is super disturbing.

No. 297857

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I feel there's a whole lot of crazy to uncover with this group, but I'm too disgusted to do it… searched their name and already see ship videos, and I'm not sure what that thumbnail is but if they made these little kids do those "almost kissing" game… why????

Saw a tweet that said the following too:
>You cute little thing. Come to noona. I will give you lots and lots of candies.

Ewwww wtf…

No. 297858


who…who are they suppose to appeal to? i thought part of the purpose of idols is to be super desirable and make fans obsess over you. these are children, yeah there are pre-teen/child kpop fans but most seem to be teens or young adults, definitely not the type who would be interested in lusting after this group (at least they shouldn't…eck)

i can maybe understand viewing them as more of a younger brother/son type, but it's still strange to fangirl over an actual child. i can't even think of a western equivalent to this…yes there are child performers, but they're pretty much strictly marketed to kids and never portrayed in such a strangely adult way like this

not to mention this is just asking for weird pedo fans

No. 297860

pedophilia might as well be legal in most asian countries s2s

No. 297861

Literally talking about ships on this tweet… I'm so uncomfortable.


No. 297863

Only kid I would listen to was kid Michael Jackson. There's literally no other reason why I would listen to a child unless I'm that child's age.

No. 297866

Seriously. Does Asia even have pedophilia laws to protect children? I'm always hearing about the shit that goes down in Japan (Like the piece of shit creator of Rurouni kenshin who got a slap on the wirst and a small fine for basically owning tons of child porn videos.)

It's really disturbing that they market children so young and dont care when adults want to fuck them. ugh

No. 297867

I couldnt even watch that gif without wanting to vomit. wtf is wrong with people?

No. 297868

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What the fuck is this photo, what is JYP doing? What are these kids parents doing? Fuck kpop fans… A fan literally said the kid reminds her of Wonho, who is the biggest fuckboy in kpop ever.

No. 297870

cp was completely legal in japan up until a few years ago

No. 297872

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>i can maybe understand viewing them as more of a younger brother/son type

Are you new to kpop? The moment these kids grow a few inches you'll see their "noonas" screaming "the disrespect!! why you so handsome now" etc, they will sexualize them the second they look "old enough" for them. And try to hide it behind the "proud mom" excuse. It's disgusting.

Translation of image I found on Twitter:
>Look at this beauty.
>He's 11 but who cares.
>You're going to have chinese grandchildren, just wait for my little chinese guy to grow up.


No. 297875

i like how a lot of these commenters have jungkook icons/usernames, you know, another idol that was super sexualized when he was underage. i don't understand how anybody can be interested in a group like this. i could understand if they were marketed towards fellow children but…they're not?

also, jyp can release as much music and shit that he wants but he won't distract me from the fact that he is supposed to do a press conference about the religious cult that he apparently is a part of. apparently it's going to be held this month, september, but it's almost half way through the month and there hasn't been any report on whether he's going to hold it or not.
(link for anyone out of the loop & curious)

No. 297877

samefag, here's the report where he states that he will allegedly hold a press conference in september.

No. 297884

Of course we cant just have all of the dweeby little elementary/middle school kids in korea just have this (they are a huge demographic in terms of korean fans), twitter has to hype it up to be more than what it is.

Imagine back to being 12 with disney channel posters on your wall and having some gross large following of people in their mid twenties talk about how they want to fuck them like this shit was created for them to fap to.

No. 297888

So, RPF is a huge thing in every kpop fandom and honestly I like lurking and cringing at how delusional these ppl are

My question is: do kpoppies see their faves as characters in media?

This nsfw-ish taekook comic really got me thinking:

I only ever understand it when fans draw things like that for anime/cartoons/comics, not real ass people.

No. 297889

there are way worst things out there to highlight my question, but that'd be overkill

No. 297892

not necessarily responding to your exact question, but it's within the same topic ig?
i'm genuinely curious what these people are like in real life. are they autistic? never go outside? have no friends? are secretly in love with their friends/think their friends are secretly in love with them??? like you said, i don't really care about fictional shipping, but shipping real people who are friends is so fucking weird. it's not even just a stan thing; people ship even youtubers who just happen to work together in the same environment and are comfortable with each other, regardless if they are already in relationships with other people. they must seriously not have normal social lives if they actually think two people so much as smiling at each other means they want to shag behind the scenes and are hiding a romantic relationship from the world.

it's one thing to think two people would make a cute couple, but shipping stans go waaaay overboard, it's past creepy.

No. 297893

I saw a video someone made about Lisa's weightloss (blackpink) and the comments astounded me. These delusional fans kept saying she was "body goals" and "not too skinny". Are these people blind? Lisa is way too thin, and so is the rest of the group besides like Jisoo. These fans are literally insane. Making excuses saying they're so thin because they practice a lot?? Obviously not if their live shows are literal ass and they constantly forget dances. jfc I can't stand it. Blackpink is so lazy to begin with, wdym "it's because of practice!!!". Just accept she has an obvious eating disorder.

No. 297900

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For real. If she looks emaciated in images taken through a professional camera, she probably looks even more bony in real life (since the camera does actually make people look heavier).

Also YG saying that BlackPink is aLl nAtUrAl!!1!!1 is so kekworthy after seeing their pre-debut pics.

No. 297902

these "noona fans" are fucking weird. they constantly baby idols, talk about how they watched them grow up and then they cry about how hot they are. they even write that they are a noona in their twitter bios, they take usernames with the word noona. the fact that they are a noona is all they tweet about. we get it, you're 37 with 2 kids and you are a proud army. so impressive, give her a medal omg

rpf is uncomfortable. most of them say they love them and want to date them (lol) or be friends with them, it's not like they will ever get to even meet them but how the fuck are you going to look at a real human being in real life after writing a 90k word long thing about them fucking their best friends in great detail, i don't know.

i think the same as well. things shippers see as "chanbaek moment!!!!", "taekook is going strong!!" are literally 2 humans having human interactions and they don't mean anything to anyone who isn't a delulu shipper lmao. watch some random bts interview and if jimin and jungkook looks at each other for like 2 seconds the comments will be like "jikook is feeding us guys.. jimin looked at him and slowly tilted his head to the left and blinked. this means that someone found their soulmate in body language"

No. 297903

The anons in the other kpop thread also constantly fawn over nct dream, whose members have to graduate once they turn just 19.
>i'm not attracted to them romantically, why can't an adult find young boys cute and pretty??
Kpop is all about looks, so why would you stan someone who's underage?
And as soon as they turn 18 they're "fair game"…

No. 297907

lol the kpop general thread is an nct fetish zone. i haven't seen many other kpop idols posted there much lately, it's 95% all nct. then again i'm one to talk, the kpop critical thread is 95% BTS zone a majority of the time lmaooo. such is life.

No. 297908

>watch some random bts interview and if jimin and jungkook looks at each other for like 2 seconds the comments will be like "jikook is feeding us guys.. jimin looked at him and slowly tilted his head to the left and blinked. this means that someone found their soulmate in body language"
i'm legitimately considering cashing in on shippers for the next big kpop group and making otp youtube videos in my free time. the amount of views those retarded videos make and potential adsense is insane. you can literally just put together random "ship evidence" videos/pictures in a 30 minute long video in iMovie and autismo shut-ins will be on that shit like white on rice; it would almost be stupid not to take advantage of something like that.

No. 297910

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they're /our guys/

No. 297912

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Not sure if this has been posted before, but how is this supposed to work out? How can it be funny or entertaining when they don't understand what he says?

It's seriousy embarrassing that they don't learn English. There are other non-native speakers working in the american entertainment industry (something bts are clearly interested in as well) and they all put in the effort to at least learn the language. Quite rude actually, that they always demand everybody caters to them by providng translaters or having rapmonster do all the work. If I were him I'd put my foot down long ago. Just proves that only dumb kids chose to be idols.

No. 297913

Hey general question for kpop fans/ex-fans. Why is it every time a group releases new material its called a comeback and subsequent performances are called a "comeback stage" when usually they aren't coming back from anything. I mean they are still around doing tv or concerts during that time. they never went away so to speak. When I think of a comeback, I think of an artist that's been out of the public eye or is dwindling in popularity for some time. Is that kpop's way if acknowledging their artists are totally forgettable?

No. 297916

It‘s just konglish that has made its way into the western side of the fandoms via sites like netizenbuzz etc. Just how „scandal“ almost exclusively refers to people dating.

No. 297918

I figured it's due to the constant spew of content going through the kpop streams. There are some groups who have 3 comebacks a year, which is why BP fans freak when coming back after two years or several is considered normal in the US.

So to answer your question: Yes, Kpop groups are very much forgettable. The use of the world comeback is to get fans or fans who've moved on to other groups hyped.

No. 297921

Their fans seriously bask in BTS' nationalism. I'm not saying don't be proud of your country, but if you're actively going to American talk shows and interviews, and promoting there, at least make the effort to learn English. Like deadass, BTS have made full albums in Japanese, you can't tell me they can't make the effort to bust out some fully refined English. At this point, it makes me think that the BigHit ceo, Bang Penis, may be a full blown supporter of Japanese neo-nazis. RE: Holocaust memorial + having BTS collab with a neo-nazi.

Now, that'd be milky.

No. 297924

I wish American TV shows would stop babying them as well. American artist constantly get asked sexual stuff or even questions about controversies, yet their fans already complain when somebody asks if they have a gf… They should get the same treatment as others, no need to cater to Korea's retarded standards.

No. 297926

To be fair they don't speak japanese on japanese talk shows/interviews either, and if they do it's on par with what the stuff they say in english interviews. The only group/solo artist I know that are actually fluent are DBSK and Boa, maybe KARA too, and they had to do that because back then they weren't trying to make it as "Kpop artists" but as Jpop artist. They also regularly work with Japanese producers whereas your average Kpop group just awkwardly translates their korean songs into japanese.
Kpop is a niche genre there now, just how it is in the west, and the people that buy their music know this and don't care. It's like how your average weeb doesn't want a dub for their anime, as long as there's subs they'll buy it. It's almost part of the product, so to say.
This entire western promo is just promo for BTS in Korea essentially, as it's always been. When BTS were fucking nobodies in Korea they had a bigger fandom in the west and used that fact to media play in Korea, which gave them the clout to become what they are today.
Seeing Koreans get triggered by BigHit wanting to collaborate with a supposed Japanese right-winger and responding with almost as equally cancerous nationalism was pretty funny ngl. The irony.

No. 297928

I don’t care for BTS interviews outside of Korea but they’re actually being coddled as much as you claim they are, that’s really embarrassing. I’m sure any mentions of hooking up will have their fangirls ditching them, but how can they expect to advance further when only one member out of seven can hold a conversation in English? They love that American clout but it sounds like they aren’t really trying that hard to adapt. They’ll always be seen as an East Asian novelty to the Western public and that’s one of the reasons why.

No. 297931

Why bother learning a language and social norms if you can rely on your batshit fandom to carry you and rake in money anyway? Why should news outlets bother with risky questions that might get them on BigHit's no-go list if they still get clicks with BTS answering the same "what's your favorite thing to eat in XY?"-type of questions every time? Why would fans want their oppars to answer questions that could possibly shatter their perception of them? Keeping this as superficial as possibly is a win-win for every party involved (except for people like us who love drama LOL).

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Dang, you’re right on the money.

Amber’s more butch and toned than 80% of male K-pop idols. Not even saying that’s a bad thing because she seems more physically healthy compared to the skellys prancing around nowadays. The backlash she would receive from coming out might not even be as bad as expected. f(x) is dead and she’s not even that relevant to the Korean public.

No. 297947

Damn what the hell, I googled Boystory and they really are marketed like adults, with makeup.


With lyrics like these the target audience must be pedos. Who else? 11 yo girls?

No. 297957

some of the anons in there might be 18 or 19, but most are probably in their twenties. weird and gross. nct dream had that pedo bait concept too

No. 297964

Kboos are ana-chans. They make the same excuses for Sunmi and all the other skellies in kpop even though you literally get news of them fainting and going to ER from time to time

Lmao, me too anon. But I'm gonna find some other group, I feel like BTS is overdone these days.

I don't know why, but I feel like she's not going to come out any time soon. She seems very stubborn in her denial… I predict that she will only come out after some other lesbian idol does it. That, or she will take the tranny route, because for religious people "it's better to be a tranny than a homo"

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I had such a huge crush on Amber when fx debuted. I love super cute butch women and i hope she just comes out and gets a cute girlfriend. It's really sad to stay closeted.

No. 297974

It always feels like they're on these american shows to make fun of them, rather than promote them. I agree, how can it be funny at all when it's going to be Jimmy Fallon talking and the band nodding awkwardly?

They either need to learn English or stop going on these shows

No. 297975

lol, truth anon

No. 297978

to be fair, i think every celebrity gets their interview questions screened, not just bts, it’s a pretty standard talkshow practice. also bts is doing puff piece late night interviews, not hard hitting Barbra Walters style tell all’s lol. armies are just dramatic and think bts is being harassed by repetitive questions or questions about dating when there’s no way they haven’t been screened or prepared for those questions in advance.

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that’s victoria

anyway even if she’s closeted she’s been doing a lot of girl crush shit since the beginning and even used to have fangirls calling her oppa instead of unnie (which must’ve sucked ass) so she’s already associated with the whole ~lesbian luvurr~ fantasy. maybe i’m naïve but i fail to see how anyone would be shocked by her coming out, homophobic social climate or not.

amber has also been doing a bunch of photoshoots with luna like pic related where they’ve clearly been emulating the ‘butch and femme’ juxtaposition.

No. 297981


Yeah, I agree. Amber has been doing the lesbian imagine thing since the beginning. her coming out wouldnt shock anyone and would probably make some lesbians happy.

Sorry, i just saved the image from a site. I didn't alter the filename.

No. 297983

kpop shippers are such stupid cashcows lol. artists make hundreds of bucks out of commissions from shippers, fansites who are dedicated to one ship make tons of money from merch, cringy shipping videos get hundred thousands of views. i saw some shipper who got a lenticular photograph of vkook and everyone was asking how to get one, telling her to make more and sell them

No. 297986

it depends, there's a lot of people who think heechul is straight because it's very very mean to assume someone's sexuality. homophobia is so rampant re: kpop idols (both in korea and from some types of international fans) that it's like people are intentionally dismissive and pretend being gay isn't a real thing. it's like… acting and seeming gay is completely fine, because there's no way they're ACTUALLY gay

No. 297990

she really is cute and should just embrace that inner uWu dyke and be FREE

No. 297991

super junior has practically outed heechul numerous times lol

No. 297994

I don't think amber's gay
she flirts with men too much

No. 298015

lol oh anon

No. 298023

"Flirts"? She acts like a dude with them, and they treat her like a dude in return

No. 298039

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Loona has the most ugliest outfits, literally all of their live outfits are different color variants of this. Every member in Loona had the run of the mill idol ps pack, eyes, nose, lips and jaw. If they get anymore done they'll look overdone like Vivi, since this is kpop we're talking about they'll get more work done during comebacks

No. 298047

loona are a really great example of how kpop fans will completely buy into absolute mediocrity as long as it's marketed right. there's nothing special there at all but drop in something about how the concept is actually really dark and edgy and that the fanservice is actually super positive representation and they'll buy it.

No. 298070

No matter what fucking corner i stumble upon on the internet there is always one retard screaming "STAND TALENT STAND LOONA".

I've never heard them, where did the hype come from? And are they even popular in Korea?

No. 298094


Has anybody seen this? They can barely answer interview questions, how the hell are they going to deliver a 3 minute speech to the UN
Hopefully they paid somebody competent to write their speech and we don't have to cringe through ratmon stumbling through English while spouting fake deep nonsense that doesn't really mean anything.

No. 298119

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Another idol that I think could just come out already is Jo Kwon. He’s so flamboyantly gay that anyone can sense it from a mile away. I’m definitely making asssumptions here but his love for dressing up in drag, highly campy mannerisms/personality, him getting caught at a gay club, and same-sex dating rumors make it hard to believe he’s 100% hetero. No one would be surprised by him coming out. I don’t think the backlash would be too bad either because his group (2AM) is also dead and the South Korean public seems to have accepted his persona by this point.

No. 298123

Samefagging but his performance here definitely resembles that of a drag queen. Like, male idols typically don’t perform to choreo willingly in heels and with such exagerrated movements.

No. 298125

> That, or she will take the tranny route, because for religious people "it's better to be a tranny than a homo"

God anon, don't put that out into the universe. I'd be legitimately upset. She deserves better.

I can't believe anyone has any doubts about Jo Kwon's sexuality. That closet is completely transparent.

No. 298134

Holy shit, I haven’t seen that Jo Kwon performance before. If he were wearing a longer wig, the whole thing could pass off as an act you see from a drag queen at a gay bar. It’s so fucking obvious. I’m also suprised that his company even allowed him to make a solo debut with such a bold concept on a K-pop music show. Props to them.

No. 298136

Lol bonus J-hope at the end when he looked decent. Sans stupid clothes and makeup.

No. 298146

jo kwon also has a "born this way" tattoo, doesn't he? i try not to make assumptions, people of any sexuality can act any way, but some things are just too blatant and they all add up. but even with him being at gay clubs all the time there are a lot of people who'd 100% buy that he's a straight guy rather than accept that somebody who's generally well liked is gay

No. 298195

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Whatever they did to her face….she needs to sue.

No. 298196

kek i know this is shitizenbuzz but i'm just basing it off the headline alone–he really gonna be the first idol to get married and get a divorce?? sad that ukiss really only ever got "national" attention due to their marriage/pregnancy scandals lmaoo. are the remaining members of ukiss still tryna hash it out or whatever like they have been for almost the past decade?

No. 298197

who is this?

No. 298202

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Dami from Dreamcatcher.

No. 298300

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She looks just like the Gangnam unni caricature.

No. 298504

how skinny is sunmi going to get before fans stop saying "she's naturally skinny! it's her metabolism! she just can't gain weight!"? she must look ghastly irl, usually even the skinnier idols don't have such visible bones on their chest

No. 298508

can she even breathe?
she looks exactly like the middle one

No. 298512

Well, Koreans have been saying she looks sick since a long time already, it's the i-fans that always go "stop bodyshaming her!"

No. 298549

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sunmi is insanely skinny. i used to be like her where i'd say "i eat a lot but for some reason i can't gain weight!! ):" and was always called anorexic but i've come to realize that having a few small snacks/not eating for half the day and then being able to demolish one big meal isn't really "eating a lot."
i wonder if she gets sick a lot or has a hard time performing? i remember when i was supo waifish that i had no energy at all, even going up the stairs had me struggling to breathe. she probably gets a ton of IV drips too considering a lot of idols practically live off of them. apologies for semi-blogpost.

No. 298550

There are many people who can "eat a lot and don't gain weight", but they're usually on the healthy side of thin. Sunmi is skeletal.

No. 298602

Dreamcatcher continues to deliever, but I'm here to bitch about kpop coordis once more. I know they're a girl group, but srsly, what the fuck are they wearing? So the coordis are not gonna take their image/sound into account and just dress them like any trendy yolo bullshit group? Jesus, they could do so much better with the outfits, there are so many options

No. 298607

This is so inaccurate it hurt to read

No. 298629

Damn, that styling is pretty disappointing. I thought they were gonna play up the 80s citypop/cyberpunk flavor of the teasers, but these outfits look like they could belong to Blackpink or (g)-Idle. The cheesy, costume-y, anime-level waxed uniforms from their last comeback are way nicer and suitable than these street fashion outfits slapped together.

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Korean Christians are fucking insane whether or not they have lived in America or if they’ve never spoken a word of English in their lives. There are SO many cults, and even ones that aren’t technically cults act culty by trying to trick people into joining and trying to take over their lives. They bring that crazy hierarchical, follow the leader bullshit into everything they do. There are so many groups walking the streets going up to people like “do you know our holy mother?” Reading off of cue cards because they can’t actually speak English, trying to get your money and info. My Christian friend literally stopped going to church while she lived in Korea because the way they do things made her so uncomfortable. Yes they try to influence politics. Yes they are dangerous.


My friend was here when these assholes ruined a queer festival in incheon and got violent

No, Christianity is not as big there as in the west and homophobia there isn’t religion-based, but they have their own special fucked up way of doing things. And yeah some younger Koreans might be more okay with homosexuality but don’t let that fool you - many young people openly told me they thought it was a disease and that gays are depraved (mostly just gay men) and there is really not much of an opportunity to come out of the closet if you want to live a normal life. There are no anti-discrimination laws.

And yeah blah blah blah this isn’t a korean culture thread, but so much wrong information gets passed on through the kpop fandom. Saying amber is somehow more closeted because she’s American is insane. There are SO MANY closeted idols who have never left their country except to do concerts in Japan or whatever. People see small steps being taken by idols saying supportive or at least non homophobic things and thing that represents the rest of the country… it doesn’t.

No. 298675

Yeah, this is why I find JYP's insistence that his bible study group had no relation to the Sewol Ferry cult suspicious.

No. 298685

Exactly, it fit their concept/sound perfectly.

On a side note, I have a question, I don't even know if it makes any sense but here I go:
Female idols are skinny, but why is that older girl groups during their peeks looked really skinny for real while nowadays, girl groups, albeit skinny, look really flabby? Like, compare their legs to SNSD gee era, or BEG abracadabra era, or KARA from the same time… I don't know how to put this, but it seems like they were more "dry" body wise, no extra fat, no flab on the legs, while nowadays everyone looks kinda flabby. Is it because they're just starving and adhering to carboxy shots with no exercise (besides the training)?

No. 298686

Samefag, I meant to post this snsd vid, but whatever

No. 298687

Many Koreans want to be skinny without showing any muscle definition, to the extent of regular korean women avoiding lifting heavy things at home or at work.

There are injections to “melt” the muscle and they probably try to lose weight in ways that will not increase muscle mass.

No. 298694

older girl groups were so much hotter because of this. they also seemed more confident and charismatic which helped. all the “girl crush” groups today are so try hard when old groups did that without even intending to

No. 298697

I think it has to do with color grading from official shows and fancams that make idols paler but to the detriment of making muscle tone disappear. Also the high-waisted bottom with cropped tops that's everywhere highlights the wider parts of the torso compared to the low/midrise of the 2000s.

There's a few idols I think who are still comparable to the lean and cut figures of peak SNSD and 9muses, but they all happened to be darker and prefer lower rise bottoms.

But it just might be that the 2000s Western hyperskinny trend also impacted Kpop, and there's surgical treatments that don't improve muscle tone, as you pointed out.

No. 298733

Not everything comes from western trends

In general Koreans think western women are far too thick and muscular. They think it’s weird we work out at all.

No. 298773

totally weird to stay thin the way nature accounted for instead of hoping you can eat the exact amount of calories to be rail thin but not hospitalized kek. like i sympathize that not every girl likes a toned look and i sympathize with the appeal of looking thin in a more delicate way, but it's such a neurotic ana mentality thing if they're acting like healthy lifestyle is somehow the weird one.

No. 298779

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The consequences of being thin for so long are gonna hit Sunmi hard when she's in her 40s. Osteoporosis, early menopause, heart failure, etc

No. 298780

And when they are in tv they are always eating a lot of food.

No. 298781

I feel the FBI is coming to knock at my door after watching this.

No. 298788

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pic related

i wouldn't be surprised if idols throw that food up the minute they get off set. either that or they probably starve for a little while afterwards. i still think holding idols (especially female) to such a high beauty standard but then always wanting them to do shit with food is one of the shittiest things about kpop. and their fans think it's cute too.

No. 298791

i kind of feel the opposite? usually they have really shitty diets, many are self-inflicted and i feel like having the food like that where they have to eat is kind of a reward?

No. 298793

Yeah and even if they ‘win’ some food prize or whatever on a tv show, its not like you see them eat eating full servings. They either get one piece of something or take a few bites and sperg about how its the best damn thing they’ve tasted while it cuts away to the next part of the show.

Its easy to look like a girl “who totally lives to eat guys!!!!!!” when you overreact and exaggerate about food and make it a big scene without actually have eaten more than a few bites.

No. 298794

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I love seeing kpop stans cream themselves over darker skin toned idols and praise them for being ~beautiful and confident in their natural skin tone~ who obviously tan their skin to look like that in the first place out of their own preference.

No. 298796

yeah it may kind of be rewarding, but there's a huge chance that they probably throw it up the minute they get off set. bulimia and the sorts is rampant in such beauty-focused industries, especially when you have idols that say shit like "i didn't even eat ice cubes bc i thought i would gain weight" or "i only eat one chicken breast a day." to them it doesn't matter if it's rewarding or delicious after a day of starving–it gets in the way of their diet restrictions.

i'm not discrediting you though, i'm sure there are a ton of idols too who consider it rewarding and don't throw it up along with having normal diets, but i've just heard way too many american stories about celebrities having staff and stuff sneak bottles of water and towels for them and such, so i can only imagine the korean celebrities.

this too, it's so funny when fans overreact and say how much they love to eat and "see!! they're totally healthy" because they took a small bite or two.

No. 298801

After seeing a lot of those ~melanin~ kpop posts it's obvious some people think every picture where an idol looks tan is their real skin tone and everything else is just whitewashed.

I think Jihyo looks better with a tan though.

No. 298811

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a lot of these idols look so much better with their natural color. hyuna looks absolutely sickening these days with the super pale skin and gauntly figure. i'm sure she used to fake tan in her bubble pop glory days but at least you could remove that shit if you don't end up liking it/wanting to continue with it; you can't remove skin bleach and it's also super dangerous.

i'm pretty sure this point was also brought up, but the blinding white filters also makes them look flat and lifeless, as they get rid of any shadows on the body and it just makes the skin look flat and dull.

No. 298818

Korean christians are a cult.
They believe that Jesus came to Korea as someone else and he will come back (only to Korea though as they are “the chosen ones”)

Koreaboos will never realise how much idecades of poverty affected everyone.

No. 298840

I hate those filters, and the general Kpop look. The music is good but I don't get why the stars are seen as hot when they just look like sickly bleached anime children.

No. 298844

she's changed so much, i wonder what she has NOT done to her face.

No. 298854

she looks like a witch coming to snatch me out my bed @ night in that pic

No. 298860

>tfw this is what Korea considers "abs" (around 6:52)

I follow a Tumblr blog about Wonder Girls and I swear they're still screeching "bodyshaming!!" at the people who are rightfully concerned for her. How is it bodyshaming to show concern for a clearly ill person and tell her to get help? Do they want her to actually die?

No. 298864

Currently living in Korea and can confirm the workout thing. People are super shocked when I tell them I was into heavy lifting in the states and I'm looking for a gym to lift at.

I was talking to a Korean gym bro and he was genuinely shocked that I own protein powder and a shaker bottle. Like jaw to the floor completely astounded that I even knew what protein powder was.

The reason Korean a lot of women are skinny isn't because they're thin naturally or "diet." They don't intake enough protein and many of them live off of those 5 calorie jelly drinks at the convenience stores. They're just skinnyfat or skeletal.

There's a huge influx of fat Koreans though so maybe it's turning around.

No. 298865

she looked incredible during bubble pop era wtf

also the terribly dry, messy, damaged dead-looking light hair really isn’t helping either. it’s reminiscent of the corpses you see in criminal dramas where they find the body after weeks/months of decomposition. the almost grayish blonde color makes how unnatural and sickly pale her skin is even more obvious too.

No. 298908

she was only attractive in 4minute and her early solo stuff due to styling
shes naturally ugly i dont understand why people fawn over her so hard

No. 298938

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can V stop calling himself "VANTE" and thinking he's a photographer please. it's irritating me.

No. 298944

i wonder how the original photographer he based his pseudonym off of (Ante Badzim) feels about that retarded name he uses. he must know about it considering army’s obnoxious asses harass anyone even slightly mentioned by bts

No. 298946

iphone quality

No. 298947

>They don't intake enough protein and many of them live off of those 5 calorie jelly drinks at the convenience stores.
for some reason youtube recommends me all of these korean “diet routines” by young korean women and their diets are abysmal. it consists of those 5 calorie jelly things, some yogurt, a sweet potato, and something else but it’s so bad. if you’re gonna diet, at least do it properly and do some research instead of “informing” impressionable viewers of such a risky food plan.

No. 298948

https://www.sbs.com.au/popasia/blog/2017/06/06/exclusive-chatting-bts-vs-fave-new-photographer-ante-aka-vante i found this, he doesn't seem to care, but wow, i didn't know v basically took another photographer's name. that's kinda creepy, who tf does that? i'm surprised he doesn't call himself v gogh or something.

No. 298949

kek i can already see it now, “wow~~~i love van gogh oppa, his iphone skills are so top~~”
>🤪 #LasVegas #VAN GOGH

No. 298950

Didn't he tell his fans to stop calling him that and instead refer to him by the name "his father gave" him? And now he still uses ti himself, how ironic

No. 298955

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V/taehyung has to be the cringiest, most retarded member of BTS, on god.

No. 298956

lmao anon you made me giggle

he kinda gives the vibe that he was dropped on his head as a child

No. 298958

You know the poor boy has an IQ of 40, the dumbass probably forgot he bitched about fans calling him that.

On another note, why did BTS give him the ~deep artsy~ persona (which as to be why he's sharing those abysmal photos), instead of giving that persona to Jungkook who is actually somewhat talented in photography and art

No. 298961

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probably because jungkook has to retain his fuckboy/babyboy hybrid persona that noonas suck up to and being any sort of deep and artsy would probably be too much lmaooo. tbh i can't really see jungkook with whatever retarded ~deep artsy~ persona it is that taehyung has been sporting, plus taehyung has to have some sort of persona outside of autismo/~rabbits on the moon~ shit. i can't think of any other persona taehyung could really do and somewhat fit him tbh.

No. 298962

he probably wanted it himself, what else is interesting about him? i only know about his supposed love for art and gucci, but mostly because that's how armys stereotype him. from what i've seen in these threads and twitter it seems that his only true passion is drinking lmao

No. 298963

because the 4D coughautisticcough persona wasn't working out for him and jungkook already had the too shy to talk to girls golden maknae persona

No. 298966

>His only true passion is drinking
That could be said for most of BTS's members. Unfortunately the out of control, borderline alcoholic persona doesn't really sell nowadays.

No. 298971

Considering how he's been aging like milk I can see that being the case.

No. 298978

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Reminder that Hyuna was, like, fourteen when she debuted as the ‘sexy’ one in Wonder Girls. Her fans like to pretend she’s this badass kween when the reality is that she’s been groomed since she was a kid.

No. 298981

didnt the other girls wear the same kind of outfits though? i never took her as being the "sexy" member, just the ~rapper~

No. 298992

so is she leaving cube or what

No. 299009

That's honestly not surprising imo…I was looking for different ways to diet and got recommended a Korean video. The bitch literally said she didn't eat for two weeks. That's not a fucking diet.

No. 299010

Didn't Taehyung lose his grandma and grandfather? On top of that a close friend of his committed suicide. I wouldn't be shocked if good ol country boy resorted to alcohol.

No. 299014

The fact that Jungkook is far more talented in photography and art than Taehyung is because Taehyung had followed him? Like Taehyung saw what Jungkook was doing and did the same thing too.

Which was a bit unusual the first time I heard it…

No. 299015

can we stop jerking off jungkook here? he's a mediocre basic bitch justin bieber fan who gets praised for every basic mediocre thing he does

No. 299016

i thought he's copying rap monster with his pretentiousness, but maybe it's both.

btw what is it with many idols loving bieber so much? do they know any other western singers?

No. 299019

the whole justin seagull(jungkook), jack(V) is cringey as fuck. j dope wtf.

No. 299020

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i hope he takes after justin in his current hobo junkie phase, can't wait

No. 299028

Yep. Most Koreans are just a generation or two away from living in huts and pooping in holes. That’s why even if you go to the nicest most upscale hospital in the city, your educated, rich doctor will still examine you sans gloves and without washing his or her hands, cough without covering his or her mouth, stick things in your nose and ears without disposable coverings, and have you put your naked butt in clothes the patient before you wore or have you sitting naked from the waist down on the same chair as everyone else. Also, cults everywhere, extreme superstition, and an elderly population whose manners would rival those of the slums of India.

Sudden modernization means some shit gets left by the wayside. Koreaboos have no idea.

No. 299029

No. 299030

Yikes, really? Now I feel concerned for all the people who go to Korea to get plastic surgery

No. 299033

Lmao I was thinking the same thing. Imagine a coworker copying all your hobbies.
Maybe he's just trying hard for some type of validation since he genuinely seems weird and you can tell some members (i.e. suga, and Jin) don't really like him

No. 299034

it's terrible that all that happened to him and it's not funny, but i wouldn't be surprised if he resorted to alcohol before hand. this is south korea we're talking about; also his peers are big fans of alcohol too so i'm sure that doesn't help either when you're constantly around it.

No. 299035

I wonder why he didn't stick to acting as his validation niche then? Did he finally figure out he sucks at it? We haven't seen him in another role since. kek

No. 299037

>you can tell some members (i.e. suga, and Jin) don't really like him
wait lmao is there like evidence or shit about this? that's hilarious considering they're all supposed to be bee eff effs 4 lyfe~~

No. 299041

I don't think calling someone "somewhat talented" is really jerking them off lol. It's pretty low praise for someone who entertains for a living tbh.

No. 299045

who cares. he’s 5 feet tall with a 3 inch dick anyway

No. 299046

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full post in link, but kpop fans have the lamest "humor"

No. 299049

do these two even know eachother? lmao.
If I see Lisa or any of the blackpink bitches going from airport to airport again in my feed I will combust, I'm so tired of them popping up all the time I keep telling all my apps im not interested but they keep showing up.

No. 299050


The IU Diet is a popular trend by people who "just wanna see if it works!!" and who "aren't doing anything dangerous uwu~" It's an apple and small sweet potato with a low calorie shake per day.

Crash diets are nothing here. These are nosedives into concrete. The ads here around diet products are disgusting, pushing that if you're hungry that you don't need to eat and instead just drink a 5cal drink. Oh wait, now there's a 4cal. Now there's a 3cal! Here, drink this meal replacement protein shake! It's got 80 calories per scooop, and 5g protein! So healthy, Wendy is supporting it! Be an ~idol~ like her!

Idols do push an unhealthy agenda because of their producers, it's just all controlled by the manufacturers of products and the media.

No. 299053

I swear, Healthy dieting does not exist in Korea. Everything is so extreme, even guys I knew who wanted to lose weight went straight to the go-to diet of eating only one meal per day. No amount of talking about sustainability or suggesting more fruits/veggies instead of meat and alcohol worked. That’s what a diet means to them, just not eating, or eating only a chicken breast for lunch and boiled eggs for dinner, and as much beer as they want. So when I hear of Bts members saying that’s all they ate for a comeback I’m not surprised at all since regular korean guys do the same thing too.

No. 299057

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No. 299058

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No. 299059

smh if you're gonna make a retarded ship edit at least make it somewhat realistic looking like >>299058

No. 299064

this was discussed in previous threads…

During Burn The Stage, Jin and Taehyung got into an argument. Jin was performing the wrong steps, and Taehyung corrected him, but bc of the ~age hierarchy~ Jin got pissed as fuck bc he's older than Taehyung which supposedly means he's never wrong.

Taehyung and Suga never liked e/o imo bc they're complete opposites, but Big Hit is forcing the bff shit with them by making them hold hands on camera whenever they're sad/upset with e/o

No. 299067

is tiffany expecting to make it in america when shes literally still got other kpop idols speaking korean and a guy from korean snl in the video?

pandering to people who are already koreaboos isnt going to get you anywhere sis its time to break away from kpop or just go back

No. 299070

Omg is that seriously why Jin got mad? How retarded. Is this why he still can’t sing or dance? Because no one is allowed to tell him he sucks?

No. 299073

ugh guys y'all really don't know? tae oppa is doing something jungkookie is good at because he is in love with our baby maknae. uwu boyfriends

from what i've seen, i'll say jungkook's video editing and photography seems nice. it's nothing special though, it's just aesthetically good. same for his drawing too. his older brother is an artist or something, maybe he learned from him.

i don't necessarily love or hate taehyung but armeries overhype him when he isn't very talented in singing, dancing, acting, photography, art, anything. i guess he is very popular because of that unique face and he does "cute" or "sexy" stuff to tease the audience often. maybe he could do modeling

No. 299074

*could've done
ftfy. maybe two years ago, but he's been looking gross lately and it's all down hill from here.

No. 299076

he should really work out aside from his dance routines, even just a little bit it would do him wonders. i think everyone could benefit from at least minimally working out; blogpost but i've started working out more recently and it's done wonders. that's the big issue with korean "dieting," they just starve themselves and omit any protein from their diets and they just end up looking flabby and flat rather than slim and toned. also i'm sure Vs diet is absolutely terrible which is probably also another reason he's been looking worse as he gets older; his young looks aren't going to stay forever with a diet of excessive alcohol.

No. 299082

Lol he always says his favorite food is hamburgers! Which is better than Jhopes obnoxiously nationalistic answer of “korean food” but still

No. 299084


I thought V didn't drink 😂😂😂 He and Jimin are gonna be miserable by the time they hit 30. They are gonna try to maintain their young looks because that's what made them popular and of course will fail trying.

No. 299086

omg jimin will be the worst; he better quit with the plastic surgery or it will be tragic by the time he's 30.

No. 299089

tiffany's a crackhead if she thinks she'll make it in the US, maybe she'll get one popular hit and fade into the background.

No. 299090

she should've just bought a building in her prime like the girls from kara and just chilled back and went on vacations with her money. idk why she would want to continue on with the celeb life after being in such an established group; maybe i just don't understand.

No. 299093

Taehyung can't model for shit. It's the same boring face over and over again, (which I guess is a trademark for Korean idols), not only that, but he's the shortest out of all his male model friends.

No. 299096

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No. 299097

Imo both of them are goodlooking so I'm not saying this based off their looks but I think Jin carries the visual role better than him

No. 299098

Terrible taste, anon. Jin isn't very good looking at all, I'd say he's uglier than Jimin. He looks really downsy, plus those flappy bird lips are disgusting. Even more so on men.

No. 299116

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What the fuck happened to Sehun? He looks like he's 50

No. 299139

jesus christ what happened

No. 299142

plastic surgery
Maybe this is how he looks like without all that makeup

No. 299158

What happened to his face? Tbh I never found him attractive in the slightest but now he looks haggard. He doesn't look like 24 at all.

No. 299162

>or it will be tragic by the time he's 30.
can’t break something that’s already broken anon

No. 299173


Jin is not good looking imo. He also does not carry himself very well. He seems like a awkward loser which would be fine if he weren’t trying to convince the world he was some handsome and talented superstar. Also his hands are so creepy looking and I hate his giant lips

No. 299176

jin is honestly the ugliest one, those lips are nasty looking and the rest of his face is unsettling somehow.

No. 299192

I feel like so many people get considered attractive just because they fit the checklist of the korean beauty standards. For guys it’s even easier. Pale? Check. “Big” nose? Check. Skinny? Check. Eyes not really that big but bigger than the average korean? Check. Not really that tall but taller than the average korean? Check. Congratulations! You’re #1 worldwide handsome!!! Doesn’t matter how ugly you actually are as long as you check off the list.

The list is longer for women but it’s the same, all they have to do is get plastic surgery to fit the checklist and bam they are beautiful, no matter how alien and weird they look now.

And then so many actually attractive people get considered ugly because they dare to not check off every item on the list by having small eyes, tan skin, a flat nose, or some meat on their bones.

No. 299194

Spill that tea anon. Other cultures recognize the importance of facial symmetry and synchronicity, rather than placing value on specific features

No. 299216

Anon from >>299097

Cool, it's your opinion. By Jin carrying himself well I didn't mean it as a performer. I was saying that I think Jin carries the visual role better than V, but not because I find one of them more attractive than other or whatever. Out of everyone in BTS, I think Jin is the one who fits that position. Jin has been keeping up with that persona since their debut, and they completely changed V's 4D persona to the art hoe persona. Trying to push him as the visual seems kinda awkward

No. 299221

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So Lisa went on a variety show called “Real men” and had a physical examination done. She’s actually as skelly as she says she is on her profile. My male friend who’s into BlackPink shared that with me. When I told him that Lisa’s current BMI would make her susceptible to health risks like losing your period and having your organs not functions properly, he seemed genuinely surprised. If BLINKs are this ignorant on average…

No. 299223

But a anon, that's how all young women are supposed to look like. You're probably just a jealous western fattie!

No. 299226

Samefagging here. I expect idols to be in the 17 - 18 range but Lisa having a 16-something BMI is outrageous. The fact Koreans and fans are praising her for how strong she is despite her frame rather than expressing concern about this number is disgusting.

No. 299228

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I think it's safe to assume that Rose has a similar BMI

No. 299232

>inb4 people start using the 20 push-ups and 38 sit-ups she did as proof she’s 100% healthy

No. 299233

blinks on average are anachans, plain and simple, and those who aren’t are still ignorant to the vast health risks these girls are setting themselves up for. anyone i’ve seen who has expressed concern for lisa or rose have been shut down by dumbass fans who can’t see past their own delusions.

you can like an idol without thinking everything about them is amazing and perfect and showing concern for them is sure as hell not hate. if anything, it’s far more hateful and selfish to value your own glamorized delusions over your idols’ well-being.

No. 299246

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The photograph is from January 2018. There are other photos with these marks in his wrist around that time. Some people are saying they are photoshopped but these marks are visible here https://twitter.com/bts_bighit/status/947494924080988160 too, and he wore wristbands covering the marks up.
Does anyone know what happened? Maybe it was because of an accident, I hope it's not anything concerning and he's okay

No. 299250

Not exactly surprising all things considered, but… wew

No. 299273

They do look like self harm wounds, I honestly hope he's okay, although I honestly doubt it considering BTS is downright overworked and probably under a lot of pressure (especially him, I guess, since he's one of the most popular members).

No. 299275

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jungkook always has a shit ton of marks and scratches on him. anytime i see pics with his legs exposed he has a shit ton of bruises and scratches on them, and then there was that one injury on both sides of his arm. does he do something in his free time that warrants this? i can’t imagine falling while dancing and shit does all of that.

No. 299276

I remember ARMY went out of their way to discredit this pic and tell everyone it was Photoshop and that JK was fine, but if their offical Twitter has even more pics with the marks then I guess it's real.

Honestly I feel bad for him, his parents pretty much forced him to the idol life at like 13. You can tell that shit really effected him, even he realizes it to some extent by talking about how he stopped aging mentally at 15, which is typically a sign of some type of trauma.
On top of that he grew up having to be hyperconscious of how people viewed him, along with typical teenage shit, like wanting validation of your peers and to learn to be comfortable with who you are.
He openly stated that he couldn't wear the clothes he wants, get the piercings he wants or anything like that because he was scared the fans won't like it, so for awhile at least the way Korea's public saw definitely effected him.
I wouldn't be surprised if he actually was cutting himself at one point.

tl;dr Jungkook has shitty parents, and children shouldn't be put in the entertainment industry

No. 299278

I don’t want to be one of those types who reads into shit too much but that looks pretty bad. It even looks like there was an attempt to cover up with make up :/

No. 299279

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jesus christ if this is what yoona looks like in real life, i wonder how lisa and rose look.

No. 299280

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damn, i didn't realize kyuhyun from super junior had such bad skin. with how often koreans and kpop idols go to the dermatologists and stuff, i'm surprised it got this bad.

No. 299281

Suju is a pretty old group, I don't think skin care was as big of a deal when they were popular.

No. 299284

I was going to say that the only parents that make sense in BTS are RM's and Suga's but then I remembered they dropped him to the streets not because the idol life but because he wanted to dedicate himself to music and producing instead of enrolling in college. At least rm parents did not let their own song wander in the streets, although they opposed to it

No. 299286

the fuck is V wearing. cant he just embrace the fact that he has a 5head so i never have to see him in one of those dumb fuck hats again

No. 299287

have you guys seen the nine muses documentary? its kind of old now but i think it a good summary of how kpop agencies are really like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4s3p15YAVFo&t=1s

No. 299288

V must be a pseudonym for his five head; bighit just told his dumb ass it stood for "victory" to make him feel better.

No. 299290

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This is a recent picture of Rose and Jisoo. I wonder how they even perform like that. Their arms look like sticks.

No. 299292

What's up with kpop stans? Do they secretly hate their idols and want them to die?
-Female idol is a walking skeleton and goes to ER because fainted
>She looks great the way she is!! She's fine, she just can't gain weight, stop telling her to get help, it's bodyshaming!!
-Idol has obvious self inflicted cuts on his wrists
>He's fine!! It's just photoshop guys!!

No. 299293

Oh man. I’ve heard from BlackPink fans about how Jisoo’s the only member at a normal weight but that’s clearly not true.It’s just that she’s pear-shaped and carried more of her weight in her thighs than other places. Pics like these cleary show that she’s ana like the other members.

I feel bad for Jungkook more than the other members. Sure he’s the most popular and that comes with its perks, but he was basically robbed from a chance to grow up normally since he was a teen. It’s not like he can even leave BTS either unless he wants to lose what has become a huge part of his identity.

No. 299295

i've noticed that fans of other groups often trash sm, yg, pledis and other companies because of poor management, but with fans of bts there's this cult like mentality of praising bighit as if they never do anything wrong. that's only my observation though. why do they pretend like "burn the stage" never happened? afaik it showed that they have horrible schedule, jungkook fainted or something like that, the relationship between members turned out to be not so perfect, etc.

No. 299296

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Holy shit they must be, here is a picture from one of their most recent concerts, you can slightly see the scars under the makeup. Think what you want about bts, but this is genuinely concerning
I hope he's getting proper help with it

No. 299297

The show he was in bombed and was criticized for having terrible idols actors, lol, so he probably won't be hired again anytime soon.

No. 299298

They want what they know is best for them to suceeed in Korea, which means being scary skinny and hiding all hints of mental illness and depression from the public.

No. 299300

You’d think Jonghyun’s suicide would have made more of an impact for mental health awareness in South Korea. Hearing about the circusmtances that lead up to his death and what he wrote in his note was heart-breaking. Unfortunately EDs continue to be glorified and open discussions of depression and anxiety remain non-existent in K-pop.

No. 299301

i hate to say it but from what ive heard about korea's mental health facilities, he probably isnt, PLUS the fact that he works as an IDOL, clearly with extremely demanding schedules. kpop companies NEED to treat their idols more like humans, or we're going to be looking at another jonghyun soon. money isnt everything. i mean, even korean esport players get team psychologists to talk to, and they don't make nearly as much money as BTS.

No. 299302

When I used to self harm I did it to my legs a lot, mostly hitting and some scratching but no razors to avoid durable marks.
How sad that there's a possibility he's been doing something similar.

No. 299307

I tried to look up more info on his scars and came across this:

>”Haters Claimed BTS Jungkook Was Cutting Himself Using This Picture, Here’s Why It’s Not True”

>A.R.M.Y brought receipts to shut down the rumors.

This is actually kind of infuriating. Why does being concerned for someone’s potential self-harm injuries make you a hater? They’re making it seem like suffering from self-harm tendencies is controversial/bad. Do these fans really want their idols to be seen as perfect that badly?

No. 299310

i can buy that it might just be from playing the "wrist hitting game", but totally agree with you - how is being concerned about a celebrity you look up to possibly self-harming considered being 'a hater'?? do fans just not want to face any sort of possibility that their idol isnt living a perfect amazing life so they can buy all their albums and merch and go to their concerts without feeling guilty for funding the industry that puts them into these difficult lifestyles?

No. 299312

>"And even if the scar marks are real, there’s nothing to be worried about.”

I really don't understand the mindset of these kpop cults. Are they trying to pretend everything is fine so they won't feel guilty about a member feeling miserable and stressed, to feel like they're actually enjoying their work? I swear these delusional fans are the absolute worst group of people an artist can have; it's almost like they're encouraging them to work themselves to the point of exhaustion and possible self harm. "uwu oppa is working so hard i'm so proud!!!!" These people disgust me.

No. 299319

>wrist hitting game
Oh shit, I'm putting my tinfoil hat on for this but considering Jungkook is the youngest member and how crazy Korea is about age hierarchy I don't think it would be far fetched that his wounds also come from punishment games or plain abuse, aka normal korean behaviour,from his senior band members.

No. 299320

You think he is being abused and that is normal Korean behaviour? Please elaborate.

No. 299322

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The fact that the marks are still there, excludes the point that it's a wrist hitting game, unless they're hitting his wrist with a knife

No. 299323

They do look like self harm cuts, though.

No. 299324

It seems that a lot of the fans, specially SEA from my time lurking on bts reddit, are just sheltered kids from helicopter parents that believe the only thing in life is studying, working, and NEVER dating, so considering Jk is still fullfilling all his duties as the golden baby boy there would be no need to worry about him cutting himself here and there.

No. 299325

WJSN says they haven't been paid yet, three years after their debut.
"WJSN, now over two years into their careers, revealed recently that they’ve yet to receive payments.

During a press conference on September 17 prior to the group’s comeback with their mini album “WJ PLEASE?” Luda elaborated on what she said about payments on MBC’s Dunia.

She said, “Because it’s a variety show, there’s definitely a part that was jokingly exaggerated. It is true that we haven’t been paid yet. Working since debut, there’s a lot that we’ve learned hands-on. I believe that there are so many things that are more important than [something like payment]. But as hard as we’ve worked on this album, we’re thinking we might be hearing some good news. We want to receive a lot of love from the fans.”

EXY added that “rather than chasing money, we’re working hard and moving up step by step, realizing how special each performance is. We believe that the day will come when we earn a lot and can take care of our parents. We’re not in a hurry.”"

So basically, be an idol, bust your ass for years between training and actual debut, and don't get a single penny in return.

No. 299326

I meant for the leg and arm bruises.

No. 299327

Not the OC but the age hierarchy does bring about verbal, mental, and even physical abuse especially in schools and workplaces.

No. 299328

Ah yes, the BTS reddit. I still remember the time when they said Jimin eating one meal per day was perfectly normal because Korean meals were "very big".

No. 299329

keep in mind though that when a lot of idols talk about not being paid they have free accommodation, free food, free clothes etc as well as what goes to paying off debts and what goes straight back into funding promotions. it's more like they earn absolute minimum wage but the money doesn't actually go to them and goes straight to buying things and paying rent for them. it's still a grim look at idol life for most groups, but it's not like working a regular job and not getting paid where you're not getting free clothes and skincare all the time

No. 299331

I’ve played the wrist hitting game and yeah it might make your wrist red for a day but it would never leave red or brown slashes on your wrist like that for days… those look like self harm marks from a pin or needle, leaving marks but not fully cutting the skin. Arms are delusional.

No. 299333

I don’t think you can compare actual wages and free lodging. They’re expected to live there and do what the others do, they don’t get to choose what their “payment” goes towards.

No. 299334

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are they though? i mean it kinda looks like they could be, but it could also just be the wrist skin folding like it normally does. either theyre not there, or theyve faded a lot and are covered with makeup, i honestly cant tell looking at the recent pictures. but hmm, he has a wristband on the area in this recent concert photo too… and a wristband on the same area in a recent performance of anpanman…. worrying.

wtf? what do they mean they 'haven't been paid yet'? i mean even in south korea that can't be legal…?

they are so fucking clueless

No. 299335

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i really hope he is okay but why did he wear wristbands during that time if the marks weren't real and just photoshopped

No. 299336

SEA fans are the worst. They are so ready to defend korean culture even though Koreans look down on them and consider them uncivilized. Whenever I see some crazy ignorant bs being spewed by a koreaboo online 75% they are SEA and attending korean culture academies.

No. 299339

>korean culture academies
Is this a real thing? Please elaborate.

No. 299340

The laws that are on the books and the way people are allowed to behave culturally are very different in S. Korea. Society’s rules come first, which often mean taking abuse from your employers and working without pay (overtime pay especially)

No. 299342

Nah, they look like scars from full on cutting the skin. I used to self harm and for a year or two afterwards they looked like that until they faded to a color similar to my skin.
He did go through a period of always wearing a wrist band on one wrist, which would've covered fresh and healing cuts until they recovered enough to cover with makeup

No. 299344

I don’t feel bad for him. He wanted this and he can always quit.

No. 299345

Yeah Koreans literally open korean culture schools in SEA and other places with classes on things like “korean beauty”

I found out through reading some SEA armys twitters so idk how to find it now sorry

No. 299346

No one has the mental capacity to understand where they are getting themselves into when they are 14/15.

No. 299347

anon are you retarded? No one knows what they want at age 13, and he's signed to a contract, he can't just step up and leave, only way out is to kill himself

No. 299351

I've already seen people saying that lol. yeah push-ups tend to be easy when you weigh fucking nothing, it turns out! Plus they were doing incline push-ups, which are easier.

No. 299352

Sadly, a lot of the conversations I had with Koreans about that topic stopped and started with “he was losing his popularity and money so he killed himself”

No. 299356

lmfao kpop fans need to come to an agreed upon lie when white knighting east asias bullshit eating standards. do asians eat in small portions every meal or is it suddenly normal that korean meals are "very big."

what is it with someone always coming in saying they don't feel bad when one person just so happens to slightly comment that they care? if the idol was 18 or older when they signed the contract, that's understandable, but when they're under 18? most of them don't realize the implications of the industry or what it's truly like or may have stage parents that pushed them into it very young. majority of these idols started as trainees as young as 9 or 10 and were clearly taken advantage of; do you not find that slightly disturbing? you say they can "always quit," but can they really? sure, maybe they could, but not without their entire reputation on the line and possibly being blackballed by their company. there's also the legal issues with exiting a contract early and also letting down your fellow team mates.

No. 299359


Sehun is 24? I thought he was in his late 20s.

No. 299360

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What is it with kpop hair stylists and crimping? Every once-in-a-while I see some weird experimentation with crimping and it looks so fucking weird.

No. 299361

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No. 299363

Yeah and there’s always someone feeling bad for a rich celebrity as if there aren’t suicidal people who are struggling financially on top of that. I have no pity for someone who can easily try to find an ordinary job like the rest of us but chooses instead to continue to famewhore. It’s clear this thread is full of Jungkook stans who think he’s a talented artist and photographer and want to “bite his thighs”, as I remember reading in a previous thread.

No. 299370

>muh poor folks have it worse
Go take a shower to wash away some of your selfpity away anon.

No. 299372

>there’s always someone feeling bad for a rich celebrity as if there aren’t suicidal people who are struggling financially on top of that
Who says you can't feel bad for both? Idrc about it but we're in the kpop critical forum, a place which contains a bunch of young, "rich" people who sing and dance for a living in Korea. If you want to go feel bad for people who are suicidal and struggling financially, there's literally other forums on lolcow you can do that in lol.

No. 299374

Whatever is going on in your little baby bunny’s sheltered fame bubble is nothing compared to what people in the real world deal with on a daily basis. Sorry about it.

No. 299376

Lmao feeling bad for someone who go forced in to a shitty industry 13 by their parents (and are contract bound too, FYI)and as a result could possibly harming themselves is completely different than staning them.
And nobody said he was talented, the closest he got was "somewhat talented" which isn't the same. But mostly people were just saying he was better than V, which isn't so hard to do.

No. 299377

> It’s clear this thread is full of Jungkook stans who think he’s a talented artist and photographer and want to “bite his thighs”, as I remember reading in a previous thread.
from what i noticed, most of the people that caped for the little big nosed muskrat got called out? you act as if kpop critical isn't one big BTS-fest LOL. everyone in kpop critical is a fan of kpop or at least used to be bro.

No. 299379

I’m being critical of the severity of Jungkook’s problems in the Kpop critical thread. It’s not like a situation with a celebrity being torn to shreds by millions of strangers; he has no critics, he’s adored by his fans and is filthy rich. He’s probably doing it for attention because all he knows is people babying him.

No. 299382

>He’s probably doing it for attention
I see, just like you are doing now?

No. 299383

At least I’m not whiteknighting for him while pretending to be ~critical of Kpop

No. 299384

>anons express concern over another human being who appears to be self harming
>ree, jungkook stans! ree, rich people! ree, whiteknighting!
you have issues dude

No. 299385

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can we go back to roasting the reptilian boy?

No. 299386

Are you the thigh biting anon?

No. 299387

Well no, but they're in debt to the company for the years of training. It's not ideal, but it's not because of nothing. Everyone agrees it's a shitty system, but that's what happens when you're an idol. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, I dunno a ton about this subject.

No. 299388

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Here He is, with his fellow kind.

No. 299389

I think he'd look heaps better with natural styling. He's not well-suited to the flower boy look.

No. 299391

I don't understand kpop fashion. How is this attractive?

No. 299392


kek, but i thought kpop stans said the big 3 have an "agreement" not to take in each others artists? what is it with kpop fans and trying to police how kpop apparently works?

No. 299394

i gave her the benefit of the doubt thinking she actually wanted to become an established english artist, but i see the preview and its literally SM shit
will it even be in english lyrics? is she just planning on releasing kpop shit here because if so, i have no reason to really bother supporting her even though i was kinda hype t first

No. 299395

korean genes coming through the plastic

No. 299396

Thanks to this thread now I have PTSD every time I see his face

No. 299397

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have some more nightmares anon, kek

No. 299398

i loved 9muses and after school
shame both groups were such a fail company wise they both had all the potential in the world but the constant member rotation is NEVER good idea

No. 299401

I thought it was true too tbh. but jyp made some vague post that makes it sound like she got kicked for breaking some rule. jyp and yg ent both seem close so I doubt yg would take her if jyp cared.

No. 299403

Is Somi gonna try going solo? Not familiar with The Black Label aside from people saying it's totally~ discrete from YGE because it's a subsidiary.

Also, I'm still hoping she left for the bizarre reason of JYP's cult connections for the drama.

No. 299410

Self harm isn’t an indicator of how hard your life is. It’s a symptom of the inability to cope. That can go for anyone.

No. 299445

maybe i'm remembering incorrectly, but 9muses wasn't originally supposed to be a member rotated group? i think it just ended up that way because members kept leaving due to the shitty company and star empire had to upkeep the 9muses name and keep it nine members lmaoo

No. 299446

Group names that have numbers in them are never a good idea. It makes things awkward when the number of members decrease/increase. They're also confusing (like how 4minute had five members when they were active).

No. 299447

originally it wasnt but it basically became every time some left, more would be added so even though it wasnt SUPPOSED to be, its what it ended up as

No. 299448

yeah that's what i meant. it was kind of ridiculous tbh. i'd tune in to them once every comeback and i'd see a new face or two. it really hurt them in the long run and i'm pretty sure that along with their terrible company led to their demise. the songs were good but they lacked the attachment quality that kpop fans seek.

No. 299482

I think RM's case is kinda interesting. He was a 1% student nationwide. If I was a 1% student in high school my parents wouldn't be so happy about me trying to be a rapper in an unpopular record label lol. He probably doesn't have regrets now but I wonder what it was like when they weren't as big

No. 299483

wasn't jackson from GOT7 supposedly on track to go to the olympics or smth?

No. 299521

please please please tell me this is photoshopped

it's the first pic in these threads that physically made me flinch, he literally looks demonic and the background makes it worse

i know it's to early to choose thread pic for the next one but. please.

No. 299543


there are people who bruise super easily, i have a friend like that and she always gets bruises from the smallest things. he may be one of those people

No. 299554

he turned down a fencing scholarship from Stanford

No. 299573

kpop fans kept making it out like he was going to the olympics or smth. he probably wouldn’t of ended up being able to do as much as a fencer than he did a kpop star so who knows. he’s also another idol that needs to stop with plastic surgery; he looked fine before.

No. 299592

Yeah he has lost all character to his face. Shame, he used to be hot in a normal way and now he’s just another kpop clone

No. 299594

What did he do? I follow him on insta and he looks same as usual

No. 299596

She says by the end of the video that managers would shame and yell at girls for eating salads and would always call them pigs and fat. But I am suuuure Sunmi, Lisa and the like "just can't gain weight"!

No. 299612

ugh. can anyone tl;dr the speech? I really hate rat monster the most

No. 299616

This is the first time I see RM withouth heavy makeup and contacts and he looks so different 😦

Why the other guys never speak?

No. 299618

bc they still don't speak english

No. 299620

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Lmao you should see the infamous RM cursed pic where he had just woken up. Here it is

No. 299623

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No. 299624

The black label is producer teddys label. I think their only other artist is Zion T.

No. 299625

why the fuck does he sound like that hahahahaha

No. 299626

armys claim he can speak english but when i try to listen he just sounds like a martian lol

No. 299627

ikr he's over-acting too, everything about it is so cringy. I couldn't finish watching.

No. 299632

jesus christ they could of at least gone without the bowl cuts and the unnatural hair colors for ONCE. one of the most official things they’ve ever done and they have bleach blonde hair and retarded hair styles. at least they dressed them normal for once instead of in gucci.

No. 299634

he's probably nervous and his accent may have gotten worse if he hasn't practised english for a while. i can't watch it like many anons because he's so fucking cringy no matter what it's about.

No. 299635

lol anon that’s because he’s trying too hard to act like he naturally has a blaccent. if he’d stop being a try hard maybe he would sound better.

No. 299645

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i tried to get a better example but i don't really have time rn. anyways, it's not uncanny valley or super noticeable like jimin & jhope but he should quit while he's ahead. i forget when but i'm pretty sure he got a second nose job a year or so ago when he didn't really need it. it's almost like he's trying to go soft/flower boy facially but body and personality wise he just doesn't fit it.

No. 299646


Here's a transcript of the speech so you don't have to suffer through hearing him talk.
It's just the generic find yourself, love yourself, i love ARMY shit they always say. Maybe that's as far as his English vocab goes, since that's pretty much all he says in American interviews as well

No. 299652

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wow…i think this is the first time i haven't absolutely grimaced looking at jimin…i mean he still looks like a plastic frog but at least he doesn't have the psychotic lenses and the retarded filter.

No. 299654

Kpop styling is so shitty. He looked fine as fuck

No. 299657

Honestly they all so so much better (except V, wtf is with his hair) with out the bad makeup and gross lenses

No. 299663

If we all learned to love ourselves, issues like hunger and genocide would cease to exist! What a crock. Who gave this the green light? This is like when Justin Bieber said Anne Frank would have been a Belieber.

No. 299665

oh GOD, this sounds like some 14 year old's creative writing assignment…

woah, jimin looks almost human! same cant be said for j-hope though, rip.

No. 299666

The whole squad is busted. Jungkook is overrated face wise.

No. 299669

the only reason jungkook gets away with it is because compared to the rest of his group, he was the better looking one until they messed with his nose too much, but that's not saying much when that's an easy feat next to his fugly group members. the fact that armys try to force them as a visual group makes me laugh, because they're all ugly and busted.

No. 299670

Oof. It looks like he had no help whatsoever and they just ok'd whatever jumbled together mess he pulled out of his ass. Armys of course creaming their panties like he's fucking MLK.

No. 299673

"nAmJoON foR pREsidEnt!"

No. 299674

the only reason jungkook gets pushed as an uwu visual of the century is because he looks good compared to the others who range between fug, dull/average, uncanny valley and busted, many of them all at once.

it makes me laugh seeing armys call other boy groups like vixx and monsta x ugly or average. most boy groups have one or two genuinely ugly members at absolute maximum. in bts, it’s the norm.

No. 299677

BTS and stray kids have such hilariously low looks averages. They're both around 6/10.

No. 299679

how generous of you.

No. 299683

> issues like hunger and genocide would cease to exist!
kek I don't think he was trying to say all that, anon. his speech was for """"the young generation""" after all, meaning it had to be safe, feel-good shit.

No. 299684

it's ironic that a kpop group is spouting the "love yourself" rhetoric when the industry is so toxic and drives such unattainable standards when it comes to appearance etc.

No. 299685

well, more like a 5 now that I think about it. I think I'd rank them
>taehyung 7.1/10
>jk 6.7/10
>min sugar 6.2/10
>jimin 5.8/10 (unpopular opinion, i know)
>jin 4.9/10
>j-hope 4.2/10
>rat 3.6/10

No. 299686

samefag, maybe j-hope should be a 3. something instead and jin, jk, and v should be nocked down about two tenths too.

No. 299688

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I like how he's just known as the "rat" now kek

No. 299689

Thanks for sharing this video, anon. I’m watching it right now and the stuff these female trainees go through is essentially unregulated abuse. Every K-pop fan needs to watch this before putting their money into an industry that’s so cruel.

No. 299690

imo jimincel is rat’s only competition for ugliest member, jhope being right behind them.

i agree about v because i do find his features nice; it’s just that him not taking proper care of his looks combined with consistently retarded styling ruins whatever potential is there.

No. 299692

I hope he doesn't do anything else, he's the only male idol that I find legit attractive

No. 299693

wasn't she on unpretty rapstar? i'm surprised this doesn't have more views–she was legit in the industry (not just a company tryout or a "trainee" for a month), she isn't forced to keep an image so can probably talk more than lets say, chanmi from AOA (i just used her as a random example since apparently she's getting a youtube channel), about idol life, and she's more outspoken.

No. 299694

if you look at Jimin at just the right angle he looks like if Lisa was Amber and that Jimin looks 6/10 to me. all other jimins are 4s or 5s.

>i agree about v because i do find his features nice; it’s just that him not taking proper care of his looks combined with consistently retarded styling ruins whatever potential is there.

yeah, V might be a bit higher if he actually took care of himself and didn't have a god awful haircut and a gucci fetish. oh well.

No. 299697

I’m the same person you’re replying to. Anyway, I didn’t really know her prior to watching the video because I don’t follor UPRS. If she’s actually as established as you’re suggesting, I’m also surprised that this video isn’t blowing up. Maybe it’s because she chose to tell her story in English, or maybe K-pop fans just wanna turn a blind eye.

I hope we can get an actuall tell-all memoir from someone who made debuted in a popular group. The idol would make so much money and K-pop would be exposed for the legalized form of slavery that it really is. I think the only thing preventing such a fantasy from ever happening is NDAs and social stigma.

No. 299701

Literally all of the ex K-pop trainees have things to say about how tough the industry actually is. Schedules, looks, weight and diets, dorm life, trying to debut. I know some might think "well they asked for it" but still, it's too much pressure for anyone. Fans don't realize that they are only seeing what's happening in front of the cameras. The stuff we don't see but can guess are disturbing

No. 299702

same anon from >>299693, idk if she's really "established," she's probably considered nugu to many, but she was on unpretty rapstar season 3, a popular rap program in korea and with international fans. so that's why i said she was more likely to be a more legitimate source for answers to questions about the industry since she's actually been in it and around it. this isn't to say that complaints trainees have made are illegitimate, just that she was probably more involved with the kpop scene itself.

>I hope we can get an actuall tell-all memoir from someone who made debuted in a popular group.

if someone from an SM group made one, preferably SNSD, i would screech.

No. 299703

>I know some might think "well they asked for it" but still, it's too much pressure for anyone.
i think a lot of the people who say this about trainees, don't realize what the trainee went into the company originally thinking. they probably were just following their dreams of singing or dancing or being famous and didn't realize the implications that came with it, thus being hit with the truth like a brick. plus a lot of these trainees are super young; i bet it sucks having your dream crushed and spoiled like that so forwardly.

No. 299707

I agree with you on how lots of trainees come in not knowing any better and that they shouldn’t be entirely at fault. The K-pop companies that recruit them are aware of how naiive these kids and teens can be . Instead of helping them out in hard times, they choose to resort to exploitation/abuse/guilt-tripping in any way that they can.
>“I wanted to go to school and eat and hang out with friends so I cried a lot. During counsel time if you say you want to do those things, they say if you want to do that, you can leave.”
>“It’s been a while and I used to think becoming a singer was my only path and I would die if I couldn’t be one…”


No. 299709

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the new kpop twig arm trend is pretty disgusting. So many girl groups are thinning out their arms to these unrealistic sticks.. it's so unhealthy a lot of them look like cancer patients wtf

No. 299710

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I have long, thin arms with barely any muscle mass or fat and I hate it so much, even lately that I've been working out I still have twig arms that bruise easy. I don't get why kpop culture likes the look so much? It makes them look emaciated and sick as fuck (which to be honest is probably the look they like–weak and in need of a provider or protection). I know kpoop has always favored pale and thin characters, but what is it with this kpop generation that has been taking it to such an extreme?

No. 299719

I'm really curious about this too, especially considering large swaths of the population lived in poverty not long ago and there were food shortages during the war. It doesn't seem to be western influence either, or else the thicc&tan trend would have caught on instead.

No. 299722

Who is this?

No. 299726

Someone wrote this under this video and I agree with almost everything:

The company was Nega Network
The "dancer" is either an unknown person or it is Bae Jinye
The "face" was either Ahn Solbin or Kim Nahyun
The "rapper" was Kim Yulhee
Girl S was probably Kim Juna, Nancy or Kim Haeun
Girl B was Jung Soyeon
The big girl group was Brown Eyed Girls
The investor was NH Media's CEO
The semi-big boy group was U-KISS
Team A was Laboum
The hard-working boy group was LC9

No. 299730

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It’s been going on over a few years. This pic is from a while ago so he’s probably gotten more done. But he looks hella plastic now, thinner jaw and nose, higher straighter bridge, plastic fake white skin, straight eyebrows… the usual kpop make over. Ignore the text on the pic, it’s clearly PS… make up can’t thin your nostrils out.

No. 299734

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Some army is losing her shit on /kpop/ because the post about BTS in the UN is not the mots upvoted.

>The most important event in the history of korean music

JFC this girls are delusional

No. 299737

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And when people call her out….

No. 299738

Sounds like a Fanfiction.

No. 299739

Damn these idols are sneaky about PS sometimes, not that it isn't noticeable but it sneaks up on you and BAM an idol that was once fuckable starts to look like a creepy doll out of nowhere. At least with that makeup ugh… and I got into kpop super recently so it's not like it's been yeears since I saw Jackson's face. These idols just fuck their faces up on a yearly basis several times.

No. 299741

sheesh. ratmys are so fucking delulu.

No. 299743

They look so much better without the white face paint and contacts. I hate kpop styling and the warped view of beauty it promotes.

No. 299745

What they did to jungkooks nose is a crime tho, trying to force a point onto a naturally round/hooked nose. It’s so unnatural but it’s like they just couldn’t stop themselves from trying to check that “pointed nose” box on their list of beauty requirements, no matter how little sense it made!

No. 299746

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>their music spans deep intricate messages about bettering oneself, on the other han the most upvoted MV this week is some girls in school outfits just trying to look lost and pretty

fuck this shit, bts stans are such cancer. I much prefer the kpop stans who is just in it for the fun music videos and cute girls/guys instead of the delusional fan girls who overanalyze in order to throw in fake deep meanings and wokeness into the songs of their fav. artists.

No. 299748

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his nose job is soooo spottable its tragic

No. 299760

i stopped being a big fan of kpop a while ago but i still think about jonghyun sometimes. poor guy

No. 299765

>to be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand BTS

No. 299766

I was never a big Shinee fan, but I still find myself thinking about it too and I find it strange how literal stans/fans just moved on from it like it never happened. Same thing with TOP attempting to commit suicide, fans are just like "When's the next Big Bang comeback!?"

No. 299773

I was a huge Shinee fan and I personally don't understand the fandom's logic too. They literally still make memes about Jonghyun as though he's still living, in complete denial. I've barely listened to any of their music ever since his death.

I feel it's somewhat the same situation with Ladies Code where two members passed away, and whilst I appreciate the fact the remaining members still soldiered on and released new singles. Just rubs me the wrong way how dismissive the industry and fans are about death, only throwing publicized funerals and trending hashtags for death anniversaries.

The fandom always says people cope with death in different way, but idk…

No. 299774

I was in a group chat with a girl who wrote a smut fanfiction about Jonghyun less than a month after he died. Her "defense" was that everyone should be over it by now…not even six months after he died. She tried to send it to Key via his Instagram.

Kpop fans never cease to disgust me.

No. 299775

it just goes to show that they really don't see these people as humans; merely entertainment that they are infatuated with.

No. 299777

i've seen a lot of tweets from fans talking about what jonghyun probably did today and it unnerves me a little, ngl. i get it can be hard to accept that someone you're a fan of is gone, and i'm not going to laugh at people for coping that way, but it makes me a little uncomfortable. honestly i was surprised shinee were going to stay together but since they have to start enlisting soon i guess doing one extra year didn't seem like a terrible option.

with top that wasn't even the first time he had a rumoured (since i guess it wasn't officially confirmed) suicide attempt. he had one around 2008ish after he broke up with shin min ah. the talk over the first one focuses on the dating more and the talk over the second focuses on the fact that he did the ultimate evil and smoked weed. attempted suicide isn't the fun kind of scandal for people to talk about

No. 299778

Because them mourning the suicide of and idol or being concerned over the attempted suicide of an idol would mean they would have to acknowledge what is at least part of the reason why it happened, which is the insane pressure and inhumane treatment from the idol industry.
They'd rather remain in denial about the industry, and therefore in denial about their idol's death, so they don't have to face the fact that they're supporting companies that abuse and mistreat their oppars, and doing nothing but fueling a industry of suffering and exploitation.

No. 299779

TOP trying to commit suicide was, surprisingly, blown over so quick consodering suicide’s a big dral and he’s from one of the most facf that he’s from one of the biggest K-pop groups ever. You’d think it be brought up more often but I was only just reminded of it now that you brought it up.

This is sad. Jackson was already naturally good-looking to begin with. South Korean beauty standards are so unrealistic for most Asians to meet so plastic surgery is a must for idols to undergo. Celebrities in the West get work done all of them time but still look natural (most of the time). On the other hand, the average idol has traits like a slim, high-bridged nose, curvy facial side-profile, and paper-white skin that 90% of Koreans aren’t born with.

Another case as to why I stopped being invested in K-pop. Jonghyun deserves better. He was one of the idols in the industry that didn’t seem like a one-dimensional asshat. Sure he definitely could have been but even so, his stuff as a solo act has more artistry than most idols’.

No. 299789

I feel the ladies code situation is a little different than shinee's. Ladies code waited two years I think for a comeback and change their concept to be more serious. Shinee waited six months and just moved on.

No. 299791

Does anyone feel like beauty standards for female idols in South Korea are a little harsher than it is for male ones? Don’t get me wrong because I acknowledge that both genders face lookism and unrealistic beauty standards, but they seem to be stricter for girls-women who stray away from the conventional mold than for guys who do. Like, so many Wanna One member are so average/plain-looking but are worshipped for their visuals or don’t ger heat for them. With legit pretty idols like Doyeon and Sooyoung, they get criticized for their looks often because they don’t perfectly align with the ideal face (in Doyeon’s case it’s her nose and in Sooyoung’s cas it’s her face shape and tan).

No. 299797

Korea is misogynistic just like the rest of the world. Shocker.

No. 299803

Thanks for pointing that out! I completely forgot Ladies Code waited that long.

No. 299805

Yes of course it’s harsher for women. As that fatass shindong once said, it’s okay for him to be fat because he’s a man.

I think the main difference is the men can still have a career once they let themselves go, and keep fans because of their personality or other talents. But with women, so much of their core worth is how young and pretty they are. Jimin can grow old and fat and host his own variety show. A member of twice grows old and fat? She’d have to bow out of the spotlight gracefully or be forever mocked.

No. 299808

That’s so crazy up re: shinee fans acting like it never happened. I barely listened to the group and one of their old songs came on my iTunes shuffle the other day and it ruined my work commute. Idk how people can just get over that, it’s so fucked up

No. 299809

It bothers me even more when non-korean kpop stars get plastic surgery to fit korean beauty standards. I’m sure some things are shared across cultures but I highly doubt Jackson would’ve tried to morph into a jawless Asian ken doll if he’d stayed in Hong Kong. It’s seriously like a body dysmorphic disease that kpop is spreading.

No. 299810

>I highly doubt Jackson would’ve tried to morph into a jawless Asian ken doll
>if he’d stayed in Hong Kong
i see you haven't seen China's & Hong Kong's beauty standards.

No. 299813

I have been there and while they have similar ideals, I did not notice everyone trying to attain them. Unlike in Korea where everyone looks the same, Chinese people seem to keep their own faces, especially the average people. Same in Japan.

No. 299816

It’s even worse when Korean plastic surgery companies reach out to kpop and kculture youtube celebs and offer them discounts/free services so they will in turn pimp plastic surgery out to their young impressionable viewers. And the youtubers ain’t shit for falling in line with it either and deluding themselves that they’re preaching self acceptance thru nose jobs and boob jobs. It’s such a soulless, insidious industry like there is not one aspect of the kpop fandom that isn’t totally fucked up.

No. 299817

i literally remember the big deal they made about chanmi from aoa, forcing her to sit and watch the other girls eat and when she snuck food because she couldnt take it anymore, the manager yelled at her and embarrassed her in front of everyone and of course it was one of those uWu lets rewind and watch again and have random korean actors laughing in the top right corner so funny so cute haha wow chanmi is such a goofball always causing trouble~ moments they love to stuff into random variety shows

No. 299818

ah, i see what you mean. same anon you responded to, but it is true that in Korea there is one specific look that everyone tries to obtain facially and style wise, meanwhile in China and Japan it is more accepted to wear different styles and that no matter what your facial features are, you can be deemed pretty as long as you are pretty. Like an anon above said, idols who are already pretty, like doyeon from weki meki, still get comments about how their nose is too big or their eyebrows aren't straight despite them fitting her natural features.
i wonder what it is that makes Korean people so uniform? not trying to hate on the korean people, just it's kind of weird when you see everyone wearing the same exact outfit and the same makeup style and getting the same facial procedures. you can see it in kpop idols: girl groups all wear tennis skirts and sailor shirts, boy groups all wear shorts or a uniform, having the same type of music style, doing the same type of variety, etc.

No. 299819

You’re right for the most part. However, some older women still can have careers past their twenties in Korea … as gagwomen who are often the butt of the joke for their appearances. The sexism is appalling.

No. 299820

afaik ladies code wasnt very popular when it happened and they got more famous AFTER the tragedy so idk if its a good comparison
their career was just starting to take off

No. 299821

AOA really got so much shit now that I think about it. They always had countless hate articles about random things thrown way out of proportion. Hyejeong got embarrassed nationwide about "picking her nose" on live television due to a bad edit when she was just rubbing it LOL. Seolhyun also gets "how's your history study going~~~kekeke~~~" under every pic or article of her despite the fact that it was Jimin who made the comment and Seolhyun just happened to be with her and more popular. There's a lot more but it was kind of insane with that group.

No. 299826

~this isn’t a korean culture thread but~ conformity is such a highly praised aspect of the culture sometimes I wonder if N. Korea is not a natural evolution of korean culture sans outside influence.

Even when talking to a regular person in Korea, they’d often tell me the acceptable korean opinion in lieu of their own opinion. For example, “what’s your favorite food?” “ kimchi!” Then several days later “why aren’t you eating your kimchi? I thought it was your favorite food?” “Oh no, actually I don’t like kimchi and my favorite food is hamburger but all Koreans love kimchi”

It sounds retarded but i often had to sift through regurgitated propaganda to get to a korean persons real thoughts. from a young age they are really taught to adopt the national identity first and keep their own opinions on the back burner. It sounds extreme but it shows up in small ways like korean friends buying clothes they say they don’t care for but simply got because it’s a popular style or pattern.

No. 299829

Tinhat: North and South Korea made up a long time ago and after having studied the Western weeaboo phenomenon, invented kpop as a means to brainwash younger generations into accepting Korean world domination

No. 299830

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anon, you're starting to sound like you belong in the vigilant citizen forums

No. 299832

Jungkook is me whenever I see armys praising Rat Mon and his incel chin

No. 299850

Replace Korean with Jap and that's what anime is doing. + turning kids into gay cringecows.

No. 299852


>gay cringecows


No. 299854

New tinfoil: Korea and Japan don't really hate each other, it's all a ruse to keep a low profile so they can poison the west with weebism and kbooism. All the men are turning into wannabe traps and the women are only attracted to twinks. The west crumbles, Japan and Korea rise as world powers.

No. 299858

…. I'm ok with this

No. 299861

Honestly, after experiencing many years of anime and kpop, I've actually came to a point that I secretly despise a lot of stuff about East Asian culture. It's funny but I think it's a full circle phenomenon where you enjoy things out of curiosity, then get really invested, then you learn the history and culture, then you extrapolate that to modern politics and their interaction with other ethnicities and nationalities, and you come out in a weird state of enjoyment/ anger/disgust, then rise and repeat. I dunno, that's just my experience.

No. 299865

I think Japan and Korea exporting cultural influences to the West (which a shitload of it is just, hey check out this West thing but with East Asian sensibilities!) is more nefarious than we think it is, soon China will get on it too.

This is something you'd never hear even the looniest poltard spout because they're weebs too. It's.. suspicious.

No. 299872

The origins of anime and kpop are super similar, anime was born out of American 1930s cartoons, infused with Japanese sensibilities, and regurgitated back to America. Both turn people into autists.

No. 299911

Why are East Asians only good for copying what Westerners do? It's amazing how uncreative those people are.

No. 299913

That might be a bit ot, but while watching some Asian Boss videos I noticed just how much more confident and honest Chinese women are in comparison to Korea and also Japan. One would imagine China to be more "backwards" in a way. There are also ridiculous beauty standards, yet they don't seem to abide by them as strictly as Koreans do. Just listen to their voices for example, none of them is trying to sound cute at all. Meanwhile the ones about Japan and Korea you have women saying shit like they would forgive cheating etc. Why is that? How can you have all the technology and money you want on your hands, yet still live with such an ancient mindset?

Also, I love your conspracy theories, anons lol.

No. 299915

Any Korean speakers here? They mix Korean and English a lot in K-pop songs, these two languages are completely different from each other so I guess it must be awkward for someone who understands both Korean and English. Most of these lyrics are probably grammatically incorrect. I'm not a native English speaker and if someone made a song in my language mixed with English words it would be too cringy and no one would take it seriously lol

No. 299916


I speak Korean, and sometimes it is incredibly akwarkd.
Besides basic grammar mistakes there is also bad pronounciation and sometimes just thrown in words that have nothing to do with the actual message of the song.

But that's just how it works. English is thrown into the song for the sake of flow and coolness.

No. 299949

Even though China has its own problems (there’s a huge gender imbalance now because for so long they aborted all the female fetuses) my Chinese friends in Korea often felt the same way I did about the culture, it being backwards and misogynistic. One friend told me she felt like they wanted her to go in reverse in terms of her status as a woman in society. Idk how most Chinese ppl feel and she was very educated and well off but I was really interested to see it wasn’t just an east vs west thing

No. 299950

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A youtuber Superwoman dared to say something about BTS fangirls crying at home after the speech and the fangirls lost their shit because it's obviously so much deeper and more meaningful than that.

No. 299953

why do they get so offended when someone says BTS' fanbase is mostly young females? it's the truth, yes they do have some fans who aren't young girls but it's a fact that most of their fans are girls around 12-24, and there is nothing wrong with that?? no one bats an eye when something has a huge young male fanbase but when something has a young female fanbase, even fans act like it's insulting.

No. 299954

The funny thing is many people especially kboos and weebs WOULD be okay with it. They have this false idea that Asian culture is somehow less harmful than western culture, despite Asian countries displaying the same things that cause so much tension in the west (corruption, social and class hierarchies, tribalism, xenophobia, racism, oppression and exploitation of women and children, etc) to the same and sometimes even more extreme levels than in our own home countries and lacking any large social movements to confront these issues due to their strict cultures and conformity

It’s such a weird phenomenon. Like, Japan was basically Nazi germany a couple generations ago yet no westerners hold it against them. They are still very nationalistic and have policies that would have Americans protesting in the streets yet so many people think these countries are somehow better for society, less harmful, or more trustworthy.

I think it’s this weird white guilt thing, and also being taught that having a negative opinion about any brown or yellow country makes you a racist. Complaining so much about problems in their own country and then wanting to Embrace a culture where those problems are even worse and you have less of a voice to make change happen. What sense does that make?

No. 299959


SJW Koreaboos are total hypocrites. And even though I am a POC myself, I cannot stand POC Koreaboos. Theyre delusional and think Koreans are somehow more woke/will treat them better just because they aren’t white. It’s wild.

No. 299964

Armeries are so insecure about other women in general. Suga collaborated with Suran, a female singer. Suran posted a pic with a caption like S ❤️ S, as in Suran loves Spain. She posted something else with the word yoongi in it, it means bright or something like that in Korean, she wasn't even talking about Yoongi. And she posted pics with a shirt Yoongi has worn before. All these stuff made armys mad like "she's using Yoongi for attention!!", they started attacking her, and Suran had to apologize for making them upset.

Suga also worked with J.Pearl, a male producer. Apparently he bought an expensive gift for J.Pearl and armeries were like "omg Yoongi is J.Pearl's sugar daddy such fanfic material" and started shipping them. They kept asking about Yoonpearl to him on Instagram and he said he only likes girls. They got mad at him for sinking Yoonpearl and he had to delete it.

They are such hypocrites and they are so insecure about women, it's disgusting

No. 300063

Omg I hate this so much. Could they be any more obvious? They use BTS as a way to coddle their insecurities. They turn them into characters that aren’t even real. The biggest armies treat each member like something out of a fan fiction instead of what they really are, rich, famous, strangers we know nothing abouT.

No. 300069

That's because they choose to believe that BTS's stage personas are really and that BTS's actually showing them who they are in order to create a false closeness to them despite how obviously untrue their personas are (i.e. Jungkook being socially inept and unable to talk to girls, V being creative and artistic, Jin being attractive, rat being intelligent.)

No. 300079

The sad thing is rat really does think that’s his personality

No. 300103

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Namjoon is so deep you guys :’(

No. 300132

I watched that video some time ago and admired how confident a lot of the Chinese women in there came off as. They’d probably get into controversies in Korea for being “big-headed” or “arrogant” if they were idols though. South Koreans criticize idols when they’re not “humble” yet domesic K-pop fans tout such a horrid superiority complex over non-Korean K-pop fans and idols (considering how often they’re reduced to objects).

No. 300133

omfg that is that one weeb jvlogger, get the fuck OUT OF HERE. Why do these grown ass ppl project onto these plastic boys sfm

No. 300134

mr president namjoon oppa makes the groundbreaking statement that mistakes are okay uwu literally saved my life, thank you BTS!!!!

No. 300138

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i mean, look at it, a fug.

No. 300142

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a comment made on the UN BTS post on r/kpop

No. 300144

Namjoon has the depth of a 40 minute episode of sesame street. Wow must believe in self, must have good attitude, must ~dream~. Thanks so much BTS.

No. 300149


At least he is able to converse in a second language, which can't be said for the others

No. 300150

Rat-oppar is truly a revolutionary speaker. He's words will change the world.
Y'all should've already knew tho, with his deep, meaningful lyrics like "I'mma beat that pussy like you never ever felt before" and "haters gon' hate, players gon' play, live a life, man, yeah
Good luck"
Absolutely life changing, imo

No. 300151


weakest chin since leafyishere

No. 300152

Too bad he won't pull a leafy and cover-up half his face whenever he's on camera

No. 300165

If BTS truly believed in being leaders in promoting self-confidence with their #LoveYourself campaign, why have their members gotten plastic surgery done and have chosen to shy from addressing Jungkook self-harming? RM’s speech is just shallow at best and hypocritical at worst.

No. 300178

That's a great question. People with plastic surgery preaching about self-acceptance is a whole conflict. The photographs with marks on Jungkook's wrist are from a few months after they released the Love Yourself campaign. You see their fans talking about how they support the campaign, yet they were so quick to brush off a BTS member allegedly self-harming.

No. 300195


That pussy line was on point tho

No. 300218

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I like WJSN but I hate how much starship tries to cram Seola and Bona down everyone's throat. Even though Chengxiao is the most liked and popular member among netizens and yet SS tries so hard to put Bona and Seola in the spotlight by give them more screen time, lines, sub units and center positions. Like just stop. It's irritating af how even when Bona is not singing she's in the middle and on top of that Bona isn't even the main vocal and she gets more lines than the main vocalists. She and Seola pretty much sing the whole song for their new comeback, how is that fair to the other members? Don't even get me started on Seola, her voice isn't even that amazing or special and yet she's the main vocal? wtf?? Even sub vocals like Luda,Yeoreum, Meiqi, Xuanyi, Eunso and Chengxiao has more interesting voices than her. The forced focus on Seola and Bona has really made me not like them

No. 300270

did anyone else hear about the scandal with a member of ikon? I understand why koreans are sensitive about japan but it feels like mentioning anything related to japan is a minefield. on the other hand that guy seems stupid for even replying.

If the chinese members do leave once their contracts expire it makes sense for them to push the girls they have now. I never hear anything about Yeonjung even though she got into ioi.

No. 300274

>If the chinese members do leave once their contracts expire
it would honestly be stupid if they stayed. they'd be competing with various other girls in a group that isn't gaining much traction and never really went far. the amount of money they could make in china and being able to gain individual attention is too tempting to stay in a nugu group in a small, foreign country. i would consider them retarded if they renewed with starship.

No. 300275

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>Seriously, my eyes only went to J-Hope as I was listening to the UN speech ㅋㅋ Wow he's overly handsome.. he kinda makes me want to join the fandom f*ck.

Koreans are really drinking the Kool-Aid now. His nosejob as seen in >pic related still looks so off-putting.

iKON annoys me so much but the hate that Junhoe(?) is getting is outrageous. He does seem dumb but it's not like he said that he respects the director's right-wing views; he just seems to be a fan of his films. iKON shouldn't even be relevant anymore considering the bullying and sexism controversies they've been engaged in in the past. I'm surprised that this is what might end them.

No. 300278

has anyone heard about nct 127 going to jimmy kimmel?
armys are obviously seething about it lmao

No. 300279

Of course ARMYs would be mad about it. Their fave group no longer seems like the representative for K-pop in the US. Also i don't follow NCT but don't they have, like, a gazillion member and only one English speaker? If that's true their presence in the US is gonna be a little embarrassing.

No. 300280

i don't follow NCT either but i thought they had a few english speakers? if SM would mature their brand a little (outside of the dreamies) and stop the faggoty makeup and clothing styles i don't think i'd actually mind them attempting the west. we know that will never happen but at least with SM they don't pretend that their idols are ~au naturale~ and non-manufactured LOL. SM seems to even acknowledge the manufactured-ness kek

No. 300281

10 members, three speak English fluently, as far as I know. So at least a bit better than RM being the only one answering questions. Will probably be cringy as all hell anyway.

No. 300284

about 7/18 members speak it, only 4 speak it fluently though. 3 fluent and one who speaks some in 127.

No. 300286

I think Chengxiao will stay in Korea since she's pretty popular

No. 300288

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Kek @ army’s who think their precious woke boys are the first kpop act to ever appear on some talk show in the US and therefore owns the ability to ever do it.

No. 300294

Speaking of chinese idols Lay is going to make his US debut next month but was anyone even asking for that? I feel like it's going to flop tbh. And people are still using thaad as an excuse for why he hasn't comeback to exo.

No. 300302

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this gif did a throwback to taeyeon's best visual era, for me personally. now she looks like she's melting at the rate of a lit wax candle.

No. 300314

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really? you're traveling to all these foreign places and you'd rather watch the events on the internet??

No. 300315

I honestly can’t tell the difference between Suga and Jhope anymore. They must have the exact same surgeon. Bighit has been responsible for more fucked up surgery than SM at this point. Sin B and half of Gfriend’s busted mugs came out of Bighit

No. 300316

Jungkook gives me the feeling that he hasn't quite developed out of that awkward teenager phase.

No. 300317

good god sooyoung was hot this era

No. 300318

who tf says that shit…

as someone who's too poor to travel out of country, that just seems rather close minded and really fucking ungrateful to me

Take your fucking ramen packets, stay in your hotel, and blow your assholes out, soy boys

No. 300319

And there's sunny in the bg looking out of place, as always

No. 300320

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6 packets of spicy ramen, instead of ordering room service like a normal and RICH human being would.

No. 300329

Holy fuck, how much sodium intake is that?

No. 300372

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Yet he's still one of the best looking idols from exo.

The bullying of chinese/non-korean members in these groups is so weird and childish, but it's so prevalent it's gross.

No. 300514

It's not just the bruising though, but persistent marks that looks like self harm scars. Bruising easily can also be a sign of an eating disorder, or a others have said being bullied by seniors. The ignorance over the warning signs and blaming people for mh issues is alarming, considering all of the suicides within their industry.

No. 300518

The first comment:
>normally I would find this stuff cringe but since its bts…
No, it's still goddamn awful. But I guess this was the only option they had for non-English speakers

No. 300538


I bet this was also deep and meaningful dance commentary about the youth's addiction to video games. We just don't have the IQ to see that.

No. 300553

>representative for K-pop in the US
SNSD and Wonder Girls did it first, but ARMYs are literally too young to know that…
And WG could speak English, at least

No. 300555

Well, at least it looked like they were having fun. It's ten times better than Ellen looking at them with her dumb face and trying to start a conversation. Or pranking them.

I didn't see the interview though, so I'll stick to only this video thanks lol

I'm a bit less concerned for NCT now, hope they do something like this and don't try talking to them.

No. 300556

lol they're either too young or downplay their achievements. they probably don't even realize/know how BoA or rain had a few promos/songs in the west either. armys still say BTS is more successful than PSY because he was "an embarrassment to kpop." as if armies themselves aren't an embarrassment to everyone.

No. 300562

Psy is an embarrassment to kpop yet has had a more long and successful career in kpop than their faves ever will lmfao

No. 300612

i honestly dont know which of the two was the worst but both were so bad and neither really made an impact at all tbh

No. 300621

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how dare they say that about psy

No. 300648

Psy/Gangnam style was an international meme/joke. Bts should be treated the same.

No. 300684

yea POC non koreaboos are so quick to call out asians and their racist behavior, ESPECIALLY black people. Those that aren't koreaboos/asian obsessed reaally don't like them.

No. 300687

i see armys on twt praising jimmy fallon for not calling bts kpop, then wtf are they? i know it's like a specific genre, but last time i checked kpop = korean pop. isn't it offensive to the whole korean culture as if kpop is something of poor quality and inferior to american music (because ig that's what these people listen to apart from bts)?

No. 300691

jesus christ anon, didn't you fucking know??? it's called BTS-pop, damn. /kek

No. 300702


>"but idol is IRONIC!!1! and it's shitty IRONICALLY!!1"

No. 300703

armeries with their "bts isn't kpop!!!" thing is so funny. bts made a whole song titled idol and owned up to being a kpop idol yet these fans still take them being kpop as an insult. do they even know what they are defending anymore?
>"my boys are KOREAN artists from SOUTH KOREA and they will NEVER forget their roots. stop trying to westernize them"
>bts gets called a k-pop group
>"they produce and write their own music!! they aren't manufactured like all the other kpop groups!! they're not kpop!!"

No. 300717


No. 300718

This entire thing was the members staring blankly as the rat man answered questions. Had to stop for a sec when a girl screamed "Yeah Yoongi" just as he was about to talk. Is it me or not calling them by their stage names irl is disrespectful and cringy as shit?

No. 300719

oh wow
they actually wore those outfits for the interview

No. 300729

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this is some top quality horror film shit. i was not ready for this to pop up randomly.

No. 300731

ugh when jhope stood up and showed how he "wants to go shopping" …..ugh…. they are basically just a bunch of caricatures.
suga looks like he wants to disappear

No. 300735

also holy fucks i can see more clearly how fucked up jhopes plastic surgery is
hes like a new person wtf

No. 300745


This looks so much as if Jimmy is squinting his eyes to yellowface lmao

No. 300747

>Is it me or not calling them by their stage names irl is disrespectful and cringy as shit?
this has come up a couple times but I really don't think it is. I mean, the fans are expected to chant the idol's real names before every song, I'm pretty sure the idols don't mind being called their real names. Maybe if you met them one-on-one it'd be more polite to call them their stage name but otherwise I don't think it matters.

No. 300748

I literally had to fast forward because I just cringe so much lol it was so short and boring though. Can't they ask them something more interesting? Also lol at their faces, anyone catch J-hope smile fade after he introduced himself? You can just hear the "I'm so fucking tired of this shit" in his head, at minute 2:00.

He really went far with the ps, but at least he doesn't look too aunty this time. Dark hair and side part, no bowlcut. An improvement. Jin will always be the most punchable to me, maybe he's a nice guy but he has that nerd face that you want to punch.

RM said "to truly know myself is important to first know my name, where I'm from" lol, is he 5? How is that a revolutionary speech? God they are really as deep as a pond.

I really want to gif some of their stupid faces where you can see the idol persona fade for a few seconds.

No. 300751

The SJW mindset is so prevalent in Kpop fandoms it's honestly mind boggling. Yes, BTS intentions may be good, but they aren't that great, and definitely are hypocritical given the fact many of the members do not practice what they preach behind closed doors.

Two interviewers commented on BTS' UN speech, and one just so happens to be shocked that a Korean pop boy group is speaking on this. Army's reaction: All POC are marginalized and oppressed in Amurica, and have the same experiences, linking each other as one.



No. 300757

jhope totally looks done with it all
hes getting worse at forcing shit

No. 300759

I realized recently that being a kpop fan really IS like having an addiction. People call kpop and the surrounding hype culture "addictive" all the time, but I didn't realize how much like an addiction it was until I had to be cut off from listening to and following BTS for a little under three months (I was at army basic training and couldn't use the internet or listen to music at all). I'm home on leave now and the magic is GONE. I was geeking out during the Ellen interviews before I left, and now I can't even get through the Jimmy interview. It's not even cringey to me, it's just fucking boring. I was constantly listening to BTS, talking to people on kpop forums about BTS, etc., so my "addiction" was constantly fed and I didn't realize my being a fan was based entirely on a combination of repetition and continual exposure, and not actual substance. I don't totally hate BTS, I still kind of like some of their songs and a couple of the members, but the hype is dead and I don't miss it. Can't help but wonder how many kpop fans would stop giving as much of a shit about their faves if they had to go without for ten weeks lol.

No. 300761

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One guy has a different opinon and they all jump down his throat.
Army is a virus.
I wont be surprised if army turns into a full fledged gang stalking cult over the next few years

No. 300764

Suga looks and sounds legit dead

No. 300768

thats cuz he is dead…inside

No. 300769

Same anon. I had to be put into inpatient for a little over two months. The only source of entertainment we had was an old TV and DVDs, and the staff were not allowed to play music for us. When I got back home, I was hyped as shit to return to Kpop and my stan account…but everything quickly soured and turned stale. Everything was repetitive and I couldn't understand why fans were hyped, and hated on anyone who thought otherwise like I used too. I still do listen to some of the music, but stan culture in general is a no for me.

No. 300771

it’s likely why kpop groups have so many comebacks compared to artists in other countries music industries
if they didn’t, they'd be forgotten

No. 300772

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That smile to serious is incredible lol, just look how done J-hope is. Bonus retard V and smug asshole face RM.

No. 300774

that's why i don't really understand why everyone is up in arms about blackpink having a comeback like once a year? in other parts of the world, it's super normal for artists to comeback once every one or two years, hell, even more than that. i understand being upset over the lack of songs they have, but i don't understand being upset over the length between comebacks.

>if they didn’t, they'd be forgotten

this is super true though, after being a casual kpop fan for over a decade, i've seen so many groups have a huge hit and then fade into nugudom after taking "too long" to comeback. really shows how easily fans will just move on to the next pretty, young thing that their dead brains can absorb.

No. 300775

lmaooooo why does jungkook looks like he's about to vomit.

No. 300777

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He always looks lost, is he like 20? Why does he look like an eleven year old on interviews?

Also another one of their faces when rat was trying to explain the UN speech. I know they don't understand English, but come on, those are "what the fuck are we doing" faces. They know they're full of shit. Jhope also looks so tired in this one lol

They really can't fake it anymore.

No. 300779

at least nct's interview with jimmy kimmel won't be so bad because they have 2 english speakers

No. 300781

Three actually, and they won't be talking about "love yourself" shit and trying to sound deep. At least for now they know they're only there to be pretty and dance/rap.

No. 300783

oops forgot about jaehyun

No. 300784

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me when someone asks why people like BTS.

No. 300788

What exactly are some of the reactions he’s been getting from ARMYs? I would hope that he didn’t get any death threats (but wouldn’t be surprised if he did).

No. 300796

GIFs like this make me legitimately consider that V might actually have autism. Or he could still be trying hard with his whole ‘sooo randumb!!1!!1! xd’ image because that’s covers up his lack of talent. Either way it’s sad for a guy in his twenties to be acting like a literal child on national television.

No. 300814

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all i see are korean clowns…those outfits are so ugly and i dont have a clue about kpop

No. 300819

they all have such tiny little hands especially front row second from left

No. 300822

and you know what they say about small hands…

No. 300828

Did Jhop made something new to his face? This month I notice he looks kinda different.

No. 300832

I remember an interview where RM said that he felt so sad that the other members didn't speak english and Jhope gave him a deadly look. I think the members get tired of RM superiority complex.

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Lol do you know which one? I'm sure most of them understand what they are saying, but have such atrocious accents that it would ruin their image to speak much.

I don't really care if they learn it because there's no way BTS will still be a thing in USA in another year. I would honestly be SUPER surprised if kpop becomes a huge thing there.

Also, since someone pointed out that Koreans have bigger heads I can't stop noticing now lol. Just watch those gifs, the are ALL head. Compared to other idols BTS is really stumpy.

Wnted to share this photo from the General thread because I laughed out loud at V's stupid face. WTF

No. 300838


Next thread pic please lmao

No. 300842

I got you anon.

No. 300846

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It seems pretty normalized in Korea to just blantatly point out how ugly someone is. There's even a TV show where they give girls makeovers, and then take pictures and show them a tutorial how to photoshop it, what features need to be improved etc. Goes for guys and girls.

No. 300847

Lmao christ the entire country is a huge catfish

No. 300849

South Park was right!

No. 300861

why does she have to come out? She probably just lives with Henry and brings girls back to her place to bang.

You make it out like it's some huge secret, like multiple girl idols haven't referenced their preferences on talk shows before.

Why does their have to be a press conference for who they like to fuck?

No. 300862

Is it just me? Or does it feel like there is some massive amount of secret pedophiles in the world that I don't know about.

I mean there must be some sizable audience for this stuff if they are willing to bet millions on these kid groups.

No. 300872

he's living his best life collabing with friends and making his own music instead of singing two lines per song so I guess at the end he won. also the merchbot seems to acknowledge his existence now so more promo for him.

No. 300876

Pop isn’t a dirty word.. not that Bts come close but the Beatles were pop. It’s just accessible, popular music of its time. I don’t care how deep their lyrics are, Bts are not musically avant garde or anything that is not pop.

No. 300886

JHope straight up looking like Bom here. Everyone said Suga and Jin are the most over it but they don’t have to act like they’re on the spectrum every time a camera appears.

No. 300893

Whenever I go to kpop stan twitter I end up losing more faith in humanity. It's filled with so much sjw and stan toxicity and it's not even bearable for laughs anymore

If army really wants to educate someone, they can start with educating their autistic country boy on misogyny first.

No. 300895

i see tiffany is now doing an ~asian tour~ aka putting in no effort for anything in america despite releasing music and trying to get modeling gigs here lol
why are koreans so bad at marketing themselves if they want to appeal to english audiences jfc they just give up halfway or release what amounts to standard run of the mill kpop crap that they should have just released back in korea

ofc there is i wouldnt be shocked if the vast majority of men in the entertainment business even are
why do you think they like to go to thailand and places where underaged sex tourism is such a big thing
not to be all >all men are shit but lets be real, if pedophilia was legal the majority of men would engage in it and the illegality is the only thing keeping them from going younger than 18-21 publicly

No. 300904

Im just waiting for the sjws to chime in saying that Tiffany wasnt successful in the US because ~muh racism against asians in trumps america~, and not because she spent the last 10 years in an amateur pop girl group with her alright voice while never learning any real skill that would further her career

No. 300908

yep she has no one to blame but herself, releasing a video that has a distinct kpop style thats only going to appeal to the people who were her fans in the first place, then fucking off to do an asian meet and greet tour less than a week after the song is released
im so perplexed by it and since seohyun JUST anounced she is also doing the same tour basically, i wonder if tiffanys management just thought it would be a good idea to throw their own version together so they can have ~fan service~ meetups or something idk

No. 300918

dang, is suga ok? he looks like he's about to mass shoot the audience in this gif

No. 300924

Wow I did not realise J Hope was so flamboyant, after watching that interview I’m convinced he’s gay

No. 300932

They brought up BTS getting a Grammy in Jimmy Fallon. Their social media influence is all they get acknowledged for because it's all they got. What the fuck can they get a Grammy for, all their 2018 releases were so weak. Last Grammys have been flopping hard but if they actually give BTS a Grammy for a song as generic as Idol no one will ever take them seriously lmao

No. 300944

the most ironical shit I've ever seen is army playing the "there is so much racism in America" yet the damn fandom is racist as fuck

No. 300969

there was also one where rm said something like that and suga interrupted him in english.

No. 301018

this one right?
you can tell by the way suga butts in that it annoyed him

No. 301031

He did something similar the other day too. When Jimmy Fallon told them to introduce themselves to the world, he said he was the leader and the translator of the group. I mean, was it really necessary to say that when you're "introducing yourself to the world"? Especially when it seems that all of them understand English (except maybe V, he seems to be pretty bad at it), and Suga knows how to speak it at an intermediate level (based on this >>301018, maybe I'm exaggerating, I don't really know how to assess English levels).
Anyway, it's pretty obvious that Ratmon has a superiority complex. Or maybe we need a higher IQ to understand him lol

No. 301033

he’s one of the least popular members (if not the least), infamous for being fug by idol standards, deep down probably realizes how mediocre their group is in terms of artistic integrity and that they rely on pseudo-philosophy/-intellectuality to give an illusion of having some form of substance beyond being a cash cow yada yada yada. he probably could’ve gone far in life with a solid and stimulating profession given his apparently being in the top national percentage of whatever it was but chose to bounce around on stage instead so now he has to remind everyone that he’s really ~super intellectual~ and ~a totally invaluable member of the group that the others would be lost without~

so i can kinda see why he’d have a superiority complex. i feel bad for him sometimes honestly. i don’t really think he’s a shitty person.

No. 301036

They are def not intermediate level English speakers omg

I’d say only ratmon is intermediate-high intermediate. He can barely speak off the cuff and clearly needs to pre-write his answers and speeches or else he gets totally tongue tied and unable to speak. If he had more practice and stopped learning English from rap music he’d def be advanced tho.

No. 301038

Why make an article about this these are all literally trolls on anon save a few lmfao but then again buzzfeed

No. 301062

Is it weird that I found Jimin the likeable one here? He's the only one who seems like he's actually having fun. So much for the "Jimin hates white people and is miserable every time he goes to the USA" theory pushed by stans

No. 301069

Is there even any proof that he was in the top 1%, and has an IQ 140? He just doesn't seem nearly as smart as everyone says he is.

I feel like he was maybe above average in school, so him mom coddled him and told him he was some super smart gifted kid. Then when he joined bighit and they asked if he had any cool talents or hobbies, to help build his image, he told them that he was practically a genius.

No. 301070

Lmao Jhope sounds done as well, catch his face at 00:16 when he looks at the camera like in The Office

No. 301076

I imagine Suga and J-hope loathe him at this point. He has a clear superiority complex and they probably work with him the most.
If he's willing to embarrass them in interviews, I wonder how he acts towards then behind closed doors.

No. 301079

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he said it himself. i don't know if there are any documents or something like that. i don't think he's lying, it would be easy to get exposed for lying about school grades

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>my personal talent is hiphop style english


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>Rat Monster's IQ is 150

No. 301150

Oh he changed his usual phrasing from “talking black”

No. 301154

>my personal talent is imatation ebonics

No. 301171

>In a trial examination for language, math, foreign language and social studies, there was a time I was in about the top 1.3% in the whole country
>Foreign language
>Top 1.3%???
>Can barely string together a sentence in English

Either Ratmon just acts dumb on camera, only 6 kids took this exam, or Korea as a collective is incredible stupid

No. 301183

I'm not Korean but I imagine that the level of their national test, at least the English segment, must be pretty low. Mostly basic grammar and reading comprehension without any need to write complete essays or anything like that, just ticking the correct answer.
My country also has a similar unified test, at school they only teach you what you need to ace the test, so you can get 100 on the foreign language subject but still be incapable of holding a conversation.

No. 301185


He always looks like that, anon. He has always been the depressive quiet one who looks suicidal

No. 301189

Holly shit they all look so sick of the Rat's bullshit.
I hope they give interviews in the future after the group is over about the internal conflicts.

No. 301198

This is exactly the case. Their English classes are dedicated to answering useless test questions, not actually speaking English. Everyone is required to study English, they spend so much money flying native English speakers in from other countries, sending their kids to English academies, buying books and online courses, testing their population on English and even holding English only interviews between Koreans, yet barely any of them can speak it and there is incorrect English all over their signs, places of business, websites, etc. not to mention many places boast foreign-language services for non-Koreans living in Korea but those claims are either totally false or exaggerated.

My point isn’t that they need to learn English, my point is simply wondering WHY they put all this time, money, and effort into “learning” other languages when the outcome is so poor? The answer is that it’s all just for show and image, like most things in Korea. Doctors are known to have such high language skills because they are supposedly tested for it in university and for their jobs yet it was so fucking hard for me to find a doctor that could speak the bare amount of English to even schedule an appointment with me without confusion.

No. 301223

i'm not korean but my country has a similar test too, they make the language, mathemathics and science segments difficult but the foreign language test is mostly basic things, it's easy for students who just keep up with the lessons. maybe namjoon got 1.3% because he was good at language, math or social studies. he could probably do well in college and some other job, i wonder what made him decide to risk giving up on school and becoming a trainee for bighit

No. 301230

Lol what an asshole, "oh he speaks 7 words in English". It's kind of patethic to me that they don't know more English, but still you don't need to be a dick about it. Rat speaks well but he makes no sense sometimes. In Jimmy he said something like "speak yourself", the fuck does that mean dude?

Also, after seeing Jhope expressions I kind of like him now lol I wish he was more obvious with how tired of his happy persona he is. In the Jimmy one after he does that stupid walking dance he sits done and makes such a "fuck this" face too lol

Besides Idol I don't think there's a song I hated more than Daydream, god his voice is so grating to my ears. I could not for the life of me believe peopled LIKED IT. THe chorus was decently catchy, but the rest was just terrible. He should stick to dancing and stop with the happy all the time shtick. Did he ever sing? I bet he's a better singer than rapper, lol almost all rappers are better singers in kpop anyway.

No. 301238

He's got a pretty bad resting bitch face.

No. 301244

>i wonder what made him decide to risk giving up on school and becoming a trainee for bighit

his enormous ego did. it's always baffled me why they always push him in the front as if he's the member who deserves to be promoted the most. his smug attitude and ability to give empty pretentious speeches were probably the sole reason why bighit made him the leader of the group.

No. 301251

i think a lot of the pushing he gets just comes from him being the member who’s been there the longest. he’s the only one really left over from when they were really meant to be a less idolish rap group (i think maybe suga and jungkook were the next two?). other than english interviews i don’t think he gets pushed as much as he used to since he just isn’t popular like the rest, if he doesn’t rank bottom then he’s usually close to it. him putting out content in english since 2013 and having a solid identity/persona probably helped them get the international fandom at the start but he’s ugly and has a combo of a big ego as well as being a bit awkward, which is a combo that makes people insufferable. i’m sure he’s a nice enough guy irl but as an idol he’s annoying. i’ll still take coming off as a narcissist in interviews over the ‘kill me’ faces or dramatic screeching and miming that also happen in these english interviews though

No. 301253

its not that surprising that most of the members are annoyed with RM since he said this shit before.

No. 301254

He was a young Asian guy with a naturally deep raspy voice which is rare and like gold for music companies, that’s the only reason big hit picked his ugly ass up

No. 301260

Oh my god lol the cringe. The rest of the members look uncomfortable. Why would he say that?? God koreans are so weird about their stupid fucking skin, god forbid they have a darker skintone or any discernable wrinkles. What a sad existence.

I loved this comment lol so accurate.
>For someone with an IQ of over 130 that was incredibly stupid of him to say on tv

No. 301263

I like how all the other members only said good things about one other, and RM got more and more uncomfortable as they spoke lmao
He's so arrogant

No. 301271

I wonder if they’d think it funny if Shawn Mendez came to Korea and in a press conference made a joke about his friend like “I noticed his small eyes and mono lids and wondered how he could even see?”

No. 301275

Lol wtf this makes him look severely autistic.

No. 301280


In what way is that comparable?

No. 301285

He gives me so.much second hand embarrassment in this interview. Why did he think this was okay to say.

No. 301292

That was a gross thing to say, for real. None of the other members looked amused either.

No. 301294

what did he say? i cant watch the actual interview because i am too sensitive to cringe

No. 301299

I can't with those outfits. They couldnt dress normally for an interview?

No. 301304

Someone asked what their first impressions of each other were. Rapmon basically said he couldnt see the other members cuz they were black ( tan skin) and when the lights went out they disappeared.

No. 301305

interviewer asked "What was your first impression when you met each other?"

RM said "When I first saw V and Jhope I couldnt see them because they were too black. So, yeah, when the nights get dark I couldn't find them"

He's an idiot.

No. 301307

oh, thanks anons. what a fucking odd thing to say

No. 301310

No problem, anon! It's sure amusing to watch to see how he thinks his own reply is amusing but none of the other members do. It's written all over their faces.

No. 301312

I wonder if they're annoyed or mostly concerned that it was not an appropiate joke to make in that interview, wherever they are (clearly not Korea). I bet in Korea people would laugh, ugh, so disgusting. Why do they bully so much about skin tone?

No. 301317

This reminds me of this video of Jungkook zoning out at the UN meeting lol

No. 301321

lol @ RM for trying to appear thoughtful or whatever tf he's doing

No. 301406

Rat always comes off as fake. I don't care if he claims he has changed but I know he hasn't.
All those apologies are just pretentious.

No. 301413

Korea has really fucked up beauty standards, but their obsession with delicate white/pale skin is a whole nother level.

No. 301414

fr, all of this bullshit he spouts is obviously just pandering to sjw ifans to keep his bank account fat.

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our mascot boi looks like he's trying to succ my soul out through the screen

No. 301427

What happened to his lips they look thinner than usual Did bighit finally realize they looked disgusting and get the fillers dissolved?

No. 301432

he keeps saying "love yourself, love myself"," spread love" and shit yet he treats his fellow members like peasants
And for a second I thought the nun was creepy. Park reptile stole the show

No. 301436

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i love nct i really do but what the fuck is up with yuta’s nose? first the horrific implant and now this???

his nose has been looking a little odd for a while but this is on a completely different level

No. 301443

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Doubt he touched it again, maybe it's the photo? I searched for recent ones of him and it looks the same as before, we all know he did ps years ago. It's weird, in that photo it almost looks bigger, never seen an idol enlarge their noses lol not sure if that's possible.

No. 301449

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Damn I genuinely thought Jennie was a natural beauty, Jisoo seems to be the only most natural one.

No. 301453

They went to another country and insulted the natural features of that country’s native population without any second thoughts or cultural sensitivity awareness. Of course Shawn Mendez probably would never do that because he knows better (I assume, I know nothing about the guy I just picked a random) So how is it not the same? If a foreign singer went to Korea and insulted a feature most of them have, they’d be demanding an official apology.

No. 301455

Wow, he looks more plastic than J-Hope

No. 301483

I really don’t think she’s had much work done outside of a nose job and skin lightening

No. 301487

I was actually positively surprised that he said that. Imagine being the only one who sat his ass down and studied, be constantly overseas, but all of your other members are too lazy to study AND get pissy at you if you mention having to transate all the time.
I don't know which one that was, but there was an older interview there he had to talk for a really long time and clearly struggled to understand a few words/phrases from time to time, meanwhile nobody tried to hel him att all, the others just sat there looking like dead fishes.
It's pretty pathetic if Suga acts cunty about this, he could just open his mouth and answer himself if he doesn't like this. He's the hyung afterall kek
If I were rapmonster I'd just stop talking and let the others embarrass themselves lol

No. 301491

I fucking hate those contacts, jesus. But at least his fish lips are gone here.

No. 301529

Doesn’t Korea have it’s own IQ test?

No. 301549

He is the only one capable of speaking in English interviews but at the same time, as a group that pushes the bff/unity angle as hard as they do, it comes off as dickish to throw shade at them for not speaking English in every interview.
Also I don't blame them for not knowing a whole lot of English they never really had any reason to learn it, up until like last year when they started trying to appeal to the American market.
They probably should though if they want keep the Western attention

No. 301605


Legit looks like plasticine, jfc

No. 301677

I wonder if any of the BTS members legitimately want to quit their contract with bighit

No. 301680

she looks the same to me except her natural color

No. 301687

Part of me wishes one of them would just for the drama of it

Honestly tho, Rat wouldn't ever leave willingly, he loves the attention too much
I doubt Jungkook would ever leave either, BTS and idol life is pretty much all he knows
V probably knows he has nothing else going for him so he'll definitely stay
Jimin is hard too tell. he's always crying about not being good enough or something, which could with be him throwing a pity party for attention and asspats or he's being genuine about it and then I could see him quiting due to all the pressure
Suga used to be the one that I could see quiting but idk, nowadays he seems to eat the idol shit up, and loves the fame and money too much
J-hope seem to hate his overly happy bubbly persona, and seems absolutely sick of it as of late so if anybody were to quit it would probably be him

No. 301762

i think it was at a fan sign (correct me if i'm wrong) but i believe jin? said that armys should have high hopes for their contract renewals and that they're going well or something like that? i used to be one of those that thought at least one or two would probably not renew but honestly, the BTS name makes them good money and they've probably gotten comfortable, especially the maknae line, where BTS is pretty much all they really know. a few members probably really do hate it, but then they remember their paychecks and all the pussy they can get and they don't mind so much LOL.

i'm more interested in how their military is gonna go or when they start reaching their 30s. my bets are gonna be that the rat and the reptile are gonna be the milkiest. rat mon and jimin just give me insecurity and "constantly-needs-validation" vibes. they'll probably try really hard to remain in the spotlight. i feel like jimin is gonna be like that one ugly dude from H.O.T who married that girl from crayon pop; ugly, older, and hanging on to his younger self for dear life.

No. 301782

they won't leave for the next few years because they know that they won't be as successful on their own. maybe some of them will when the hype is gone though.

i don't think rm would leave, it would be messy if he did since he's the leader. without him they wouldn't be able to market in america too. they would do well as solo singers but both jimin and jungkook seem too dependent on bts and their fans. from what we see on cameras, i'll also give props to them and say that these three seem like they are the ones that actually care about their friendship with the members. jungkook pretty much grew up with them so it's understandable, and whenever something happens to someone namjoon and jimin are around

suga, jin and v are the most likely to leave. i don't know what to say about jhope, he might leave if he really is tired with his persona. iirc suga said he joined bts, he was told it was going to be a hip hop group with no dancing, but he probably got used to bts the way they are now. maybe he still wants to work on different music. jin studied acting, i can see him working on tv. taehyung isn't talented in acting but he'll get roles or some modeling work for his popularity. or maybe he'll just settle down, he's the family oriented type and wants 5 kids.

i'm curious what's going to happen to them after the hype and if any beef will happen. my guesses are rm and suga will work as producers for bighit, jimin and jhope will be choreographers, jin and v might do some acting and jungkook will become a soloist while still keeping ties with bts

No. 301794

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Look man I do like Jongin but….these dance moves…why do most k pop stars dance like they're constipated robots

No. 301795

I’m sure jhope hates the theater side of it all but he’s the only real performer of the bunch. He at least gets to dance and help with choreography which is apparently what he’s always wanted to do with his life. I could see him being a choreographer once Bts is over or something. He probably wishes he had just been a backup dancer or something lol

No. 301803

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idk why but jimin seems annoying. every time i see a gif of him he's always clinging on to someone or being a sad boi. i feel like he's one of those friends that you always have to give attention or validation so they won't be upset with you. i hope it's just a persona and not legit how he is all the time.

No. 301805

jongin has always been named one the better third generation kpop dancers but i think it's just because he stands out in a sea of robots. he's not bad, but he's not tHe bEsT kPoP dANCer eVer! he just looks slightly better (sometimes not even) because every other idol just looks like they're memorizing the moves in their head lol.

No. 301820

Yeah I think jongin is actually a good dancer, mostly due to how passionate he is about it and that he actually enjoys doing it (well at least he's better than others at acting like it) but sometimes even he gets stuck with those stupid robotic moves kpop is obsessed with. I swear every group does them and it's hard to say if they have any ounce of originally in their moves. When i heard that some kpop dances were "omggg so good and talented and reaallly hardd!!" I looked some up and went lmao seriously this is the best they can do? I guess kpop fans hype everything mediocre up to the extreme so it seems like they at least have a reason to be obsessed with their groups aside from them fantasising about their bias, because I feel like no one else outside of the kpop fandom would say a group's dance is really good or original.

No. 301825

Ik this thread doesn't really like Jimin lmao I don't either, but I've always seen Jimin as the member who knows what fan services work best with fans, which is why he's one of the most popular members. Jhope may be sick of keeping up with his act but Jimin thrives in it.

No. 301842

I live in an area with a large Asian population and have come across girls on the street that are much prettier. Without the brand-name clothes and dramatic make-up, BlackPink are actually quite average-looking. Also Jennie looks Southeast Asian but you won’t hear Koreans bashing her looks because of the YG clout.

No. 301843

Samefag here. I’m not saying that I think there’s anything wrong with looking Southeast Asian, but it’s been discussed that Koreans find it insulting to be seen as SEA.

Also I just remembered how non-Korean idols don’t get paid as much as their Korean groupmates because of laws or some shit. With all of the inequity that ‘foreign’ idols receive in finances and social standing, why would anyone outside of East Asians want to be a trainee?

No. 301845

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Nayoung from the nugu group gugudan is always hailed as the most prettiest and popular member in the group yet she looks like a old gangnam unnie to me. There's nothing appealing about her and I'm pretty sure she's lying about her age

No. 301849

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Most of the Nugudan members give me Gangnam unnie vibes. Maybe I’m just biased but K-pop idols are starting to look more and more plastic.

No. 301854

there was a time when EVERY group that came out started to look like the same girl, i think it was that DIA group. I couldnt tell the difference in any of the members i thought i was losing my shit.
DIA, I.O.I, and April i think were the 3 groups im thinking about. Literally theres one member or so that looks different and all the rest look like factory clones i swore there were multiple pairs of twins especially in April and DIA

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No. 301859

and ive never paid attention to dream catcher but those two in the front have the EXACT same fucking face

No. 301861

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sorry forgot pic
same face just different hair

No. 301867

Are there idols with cankles? Considering how much having super thin legs matters to them I'd be surprised

No. 301869

idk what you mean by cankles but some of the girls in t-ara were known for having thicker legs back in the day

No. 301871

for some reason this question made crack up. too lazy to go look at pictures of idol's ankles but that's one of those things that weight loss doesn't really effect if you're just built like that, so probably

No. 301874

i actually remember a lot of comments about snsd yuri's ankles being too fat. she's got great legs imo, she just looks heavier than she probably is sometimes. shaving down her jaw didn't help because it's made her look imbalanced, but her build only seems 'big' because other members of snsd are frequently skelly

No. 301877

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The criticisms Yuri gets for her looks are too excessive. It’s disappointing that she got a jaw shave because of the hate even though she didn’t need one. Hyoyeon’s the only SNSD member who benefitted from getting a ton of noticeable work done.

No. 301878

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Compared to >pic related

No. 301880

ive always had a soft spot for her and the only thing that wasnt nice on her was her nose
she was still pretty and had one of the only tolerable personalities in the group to me

No. 301883

Yeah, I give her props for being one of the ‘realest’ members in the group. Slightly unrelated but Sunny also gets hate for her looks and is seen as one of the ugliest members but I don’t really get it. I always thought she was cute (pre-2016) and am envious of her bust tbh.

No. 301886

they're all plastic but i think it's mostly the styling that makes them unrecognizable, the schoolgirl look is so fucking boring

No. 301888

can confirm
i miss the bright and unique stuff circa 2005-2012
even though a lot of the groups started with school girl esque outfits they evolved to have all sorts of cool outfits in rotation
i remember everytime 2ne1, snsd, t-ara and kara would have a comeback i was excited to see the different styles they'd have

No. 301892

I've found her pretty smug and annoying lately, honestly. "I like cool groups like 2NE1, I don't like snsd except Hyoyeon" was just a meme for a while back in about 2011 and she's kept a reputation as the cool and alternative member because she's a dancer and less attractive than the others

That reminds me of memes from that time, there was one of a line of girls wearing ballet shoes and each was labelled with different fandom names (Sones, Wonderfuls, Cassies, Kamilia, Elfs, Shawols) and then one of a girl wearing converse and labelled Blackjack/VIP. If Armys are so obsessed with 'paving the way' they should thank Blackjacks/VIPs for starting the 'it's not like other kpop! it's way too good for that!' attitude

No. 301893

the worst part about 2ne1 fans was bom fans

their defenses for her shitty vocals and swollen plastic face always made me roll my eyes so hard

No. 301894

I feel bad for Bom and don’t think she’s done anything to warrant the amount of hate she gets. With that being said, you’d have to be blind or delusional to still think that unnir’s 100% natural.

No. 301896

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Her new look is even more jarring without the heavy makeup.

No. 301897

Are there any unshopped photos of idols?
Western artists always have some super unflattering pictures, even from red carped but i only see super edited ifols

No. 301898

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theres plenty

No. 301901

What, you mean swollen nymph lodes don't change the shape of your nose, your eyelids, and make your bust way bigger? Obviously she never had plastic surgery, she was just ill

Bom's vocals only get defended more and more now, if she'd been active until now then the people who defend her so strongly suddenly would still be making fun of her or criticising her voice. She sounded so awful in 2NE1's last song that I can't imagine what their trio album would've sounded like. I also got bored of fans thinking they ONLY broke up because he didn't want to defend Bom during her scandal. Do people forget he covered it up for about 3 years before news of it got out? Whatever he did to Dispatch to piss them off meant it couldn't be hidden anymore, obviously that means there also wasn't anything more he could do to cover it further. If it got out when it happened, arguably at 2NE1's peak, they would've been dead before they accomplished as much as they did. Her scandal was more than just a drug misunderstanding because it was also proof of how rich celebrities can have scandals covered up and hidden from the public, that's an important reason why it was a bigger deal than someone like GD whose scandal came out almost as soon as it happened

No. 301908

https://www.koreaboo.com/lists/kpop-fansite-posts-real-100-percent-not-photoshopped-images-idols/ all of them look tired and the bristle looks so unflattering on them, probably because beards don't suit Asian faces in general

No. 301913

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>probably because beards don't suit Asian faces in general

Godfrey Gao begs to differ.It’s mainly because of the weak jaws lots of male K-pop idols sport. They can suit a face with strong, angular features that people in K-pop seem to be scared of having.

No. 301918

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This gif of Kara’s Seungyeon was trendy among Korean k-pop fans for some time. The more I look at it the more disturbing I find it. Like, she was probably in her late teens or early twenties in this gif, but she’s dressed like a toddler or dd/lg try-hard.

I also started recalling how other female K-pop idols wear pigtails too and how it’s seen as normal. I can’t imagine a Little Mix/Fifth Harmony member dressed in this kind of style.

No. 301921

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No. 301928

Pigtails aren't inherently a ddlg fetish thing… the girl in >>301924 looks normal and cute.

Little mix and fifth harmony are pushing a sexy image anyways, so it wouldn't make sense for them to wear a cute style. That's kind of a weird comparison.

No. 301929

Asians are pedos what’s new

No. 301931

i don’t think pigtails are always weird on someone older but k-pop is one of the only places where i see people so obsessed with saying women in their mid to late 20s look like teenagers. i get wanting to look younger, but how many grown women actually want to look underage? that and frail, only kpop fans and ana chans think saying a women looks frail is a compliment

No. 301940

I see a lot of girl wanting to be uwu smol and frail
At least online

No. 301943

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i think its ok if a girl finds it cute
there have been plenty of instances of girls wearing pigtails and me thinking its super cute on them just as a general look

but if a guy does it automatically sets off pedo alarms in my head especially if its an asian girl for obvious reasons

just using this pic because i was looking for cute kpop pigtails and this made me laugh lol

No. 301945

Normal adult women do not wear pigtails even in Korea. Its a costume meant to idealize aegyo and childish visuals/behavior.

I hate when GG Stans get on here and start with the apologetic bullshit.

No. 301947

Godfrey Gao is Taiwanese-Malaysian. I haven’t ever seen a korean dude look good with facial hair before.

No. 301948

Why do they hate jawlines so much?

No. 301949

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lots of women wear pigtails wtf? its not the fault of women that men equate a hair style with their own pedophiliac shit

and sure some play it up especially in asia and the ddlg community but again that shouldnt be our problem
its a fucking hair style

No. 301951

Look at the picture you chose to support your point LMAO.

It’s not women’s fault for any of this but the facts remain the same, GGs wear childish clothes and hairstyles because korean men get off on the idea of violating something pure and innocent.

No. 301952

my point is that "normal" grown women can do whatever tf they want with their hair regardless of men think
men are gonna sexualize and judge females no matter what they wear or do
you have religious nutcases like the duggars who refuse to cut and style their hair because their dads "like it long" because it represents being pure and untouched and that doesnt make having long hair abnormal so…

not defending GG at all btw just the hair style itself
you sound like one of those bitter anons that cant stand when female idols are talked about in this thread instead of rehashing how plastic and ugly bts is for 10 hours

No. 301953

That’s no even the same hairstyle, and Paris Hilton was/is a caricature of the dumb Barbie stereotype so she really was not a good person to find a picture of, anon.

High pigtails are almost exclusively worn by young girls and porn stars in high school roleplays. Yeah it’s stupid but that’s the way it is. It’s a conscious choice for kpop stylists to constantly put girl groups in this type of hairstyle.

No. 301954

fair enough, but women should be free to do whatever without having to worry about it
there are women who like the style and arent into the age play stuff

No. 301956

Sorry but it doesn’t matter what you think women should or shouldn’t be able to do without being sexualised. It IS sexualized which is why it’s so common in kpop. You can’t take it out of the context in which it’s being presented. These women are in costumes that they don’t even get to choose being paraded around in front of young girls and horny adult men just to make money.

If you want to wear pigtails sticking out the top of your head, go on! I doubt any guy is going to pop a boner over it unless you’re in hot pants and heels too. But if you’re over the age of 12 people might think you a touch retarded.

No. 301958

Cus strong features make female idols look less “cute” and male idols more intimidating and now as flower boy-ish. I actually like a strong jawline but I’m just explaining why they’re not common in K-pop.