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Rant about Kpop, its creepy fandoms, and/or its fucked up industry. Or just nitpick some idols.
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am i the only one who thinks taeyeon was ALWAYS overrated look wise?
people are dogging on her plastic surgery but honestly she wasnt particularly pretty to begin with without a ton of makeup
i personally think she was fairly cute during their early years but not a stunning beauty like that of a korean beauty such as jun ji hyun or of the likes. her face is a little too doughy and childish for me to think she was a top beauty, so i do think she was a little overrated especially after her plastic surgery. she's always been just cute/pretty to me; not bad to look at but overrated.
tiffany, jessica, or yoona were way prettier to me than taeyeon.
i was gonna say yuri and seohyun too but i felt like i was just adding a majority of the group at that point LOL. speaking of yuri, it was a shame how much weight she lost, she looked really good at one point.
SNSD stayed getting in i-netz controversies over calling yuri "black pearl" or smth like that and always using a black emoji for her lmaooo
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i hear soyou is having a comeback? will we finally start seeing some idols with meat on their bones promoting again?
she looks pretty next to tiffany here bc the shot of the latter is kind of unflattering rip
anyway i do like her looks but in a cute/pretty way. i find yoona and jessica the most beautiful but then i also find them the most beautiful female idols period, so.
Nah. I’ve alreay seen fans (mainly international fans) make excuses for this. One prominent one is this is Bang PD’s fault and not teh boyz’.
Their popularity will take a hit with the general public in South Korea, but I predict that ARMYs everywhere will overlook this and continue to obsess over them.
yoona and jessica both had shit tier jaws pre jaw shave
but the rest of their features are nice i think yoona has beautiful eyes!
Tfw this actually is a better song than Idol
I like the mv for Idol but the song itself is like the awkward younger sibling of Fire and Not Today. The traditional instruments in the teaser sounded nice, I wish they used it in the real song
agreed, chanyeol is a better vocalist than a rapper.
never understood why every kpop group needs rappers or why every kpop song needs rap, in some songs it just makes you think "was this rap verse even necessary?"
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I looked up pre-debut pictures of Yoona and I think she honestly looked great aside from maybe her nose. She was already so pretty and didn’t need a jawshave. Now her face reminds me of an oddly shaped egg and the skin around her chin area sags so much. Like, her neck looks too lonk compared to the rest of her face now.
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I'm not familiar with SNSD since I got into kpop recently, but I remember seeing said photo on a plastic surgery thread. Yuri is it right? God, look at that sag on her jaw, it's terrible. And it's not the expression on her face, there's a more photos that show how progressively worse it got.
I don’t see anything wrong with her nose here. It’s not big in any way and suits her face. You should be able to breathe through those things, you know.
Honestly she along with most other idols was pretty enough from the start, prettier than many idols that have had tons of procedures. This compulsively destroying idols’ faces seemingly just for the hell of it sends the message that they’re trying really hard to compensate for something they know they’re lacking in. Talent, stage presence, body shape, who cares just cut a little here and there and make them starve and people will have something else to talk about. Sigh.
Whoever makes the decision to put a 14yo under the knife deserves to be shot in the face, no edge or PS joke intended. It’s so fucking vile.
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I feel bad for younger iola nd trainees who get so much work done in their teen years. A lot of procedures don’t age well and so much growth naturally occurs in those teen years. To have chemical injections and bone re-structuring done when you’re fifteen before your natural features can finally settle in is risky.
Anyway, I know that Jessica’s gotten comments about having a really strong jaw pre-debut but I don’t think she needed
the shave either. Her features were already so pretty.
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I don’t get why Koreans insist that Sooyoung is one of the uglier SNSD members along with Hyoyeon and Sunny. Is it because she’s naturally tanner and kept her naturally rounder, squarer jae after debut instead of opting for a v-line? If so, Korea’s beauty standards are really too stupid and narrow. She’s one of the members who was already pretty pre-debut.
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She’s one of the prettiest girls in Kpop imo. She looks doll-like and her eyes are super big and doe-y and beautiful. Putting her on the same level as Hyoyeon and Sunny is shitty.
Anyway, she definitely has the hottest boyfriend among all members (present and past) so I highly doubt she’s considered genuinely homely though.
sunny is one of the ugliest idols period
her nepotism ass made it pretty far in the fandom in the beginning because she could pull off that over the top cutesy and funny fake bullshit they made her do
once she grew out of it though, yikes
she was always considered pretty i thought, and complimented for being thin and tall like a model
iirc the only negative was that she was dark and people would call her thai soo and filipino etc, and referring to a korean as a sea instead of east asian is one of the biggest insults you can make
they did the same thing to luna
thats probably why she fucked herself up surgery, weight and carboxy shots wise and making herself appear as white as possible and ofc koreans now say she looks ~nicer and prettier~
they sure do
some of the most loyal fansites are thai and malaysian
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I don't think lisa looks that bad but I'm saddened that she bleached her skin, I love that her nose doesn't look like michael jackson's though.
I don't find her ugly exactly but really really plain without her brand. I mean there are so many stunning Thai women/girls out there I think her features are really pedestrian. She wouldn't have gotten anywhere if she wasn't really rich.
Btw if she had a modicum of talent the appearance shit could be completely overlooked but she fails in that regard too.
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I agree but I appreciate that she doesn't look like most botched korean idols out there with nosejobs.
Apparently she's a naturally gifted dancer so that might be why she was casted.
I'm in the same boat as you anon. I don't listen to kpop but these days it feels inescapable so I end up having opinions. I agree the beauty standards are shit. The most embarrassing part in my opinion is that all seems to be part of a sort of nationalist overcompensation like "Our women are most beautiful in the world","Our men are the most handsome" "We Koreans have the whitest purest skin". It all comes down to this strange inferiority complex that's both desperate and unattractive.
The fact that they obsess about "visuals" and "proportions" says it all imo.
To contrast, take Japan- which has it's own laundry list of issues ranging from obsessive infantilization to ana-tier body worship- but at least due to "cuteness" being the gold standard and not perfect beauty they don't all buy the same face at the ps office.
I find her really pretty tbh. I know she doesn’t sing or rap very well but she seems to be a genuinely talented dancer from what I’ve seen of her, although I do think she hasn’t been allowed to showcase it enough for anyone to really judge it but that’s on YG’s cheap ass.
I remember a lot of people thought she was white or at least part white when she first debuted. What do you guys think?
To each his own anon. Tbf they style her really well. She doesn't look mixed to me at all especially if you take a look at some of her more natural less flattering pre-debut pictures.
About her ability; She can dance well because she's has years of expensive private lesson but she doesn't have any kind of natural gift for it if that makes sense. A good dancer makes shit look effortless. Lisa makes it look like work.
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maybe its because wendy is the definition of >im just happy to be here
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reminds me of this lol
I guess I thought something new had happened, oh well whatever.
My current pet peeve is watching kpop fans trying to trick themselves into liking their bias groups new music.
They’ll either try to find some tiny thing to praise like “i love that 3 second riff right before it vomits a recycled DDR track all over my ears!”
Or they’ll say stuff like “I listened to it all day yesterday and today and I think it’s finally growing on me, it’s not that bad!” Like they are 6 years old and being forcefed slimy peas.
If you don’t like something you don’t have to force yourself into it!!
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After a jaw shave surgery the skin doesn't shrink to fit the new jaw, it stays the same. If a lot of jaw was shaved, this turns the skin into a weird skin sac that doesn't fit the skull which can end up being worse than what the patient started with. Personally, I'd prefer a strong jaw over a sagging one, but that's just me.
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Kyla lookin crusty as hell in the us. Guess the rumours about her taking a break to lose weight were untrue. Big oof.On one hand i'm happy she seems to be done with the idol shit, but damn.. The effort is nonexistenthttps://www.allkpop.com/article/2018/09/recent-photos-of-pristins-kyla-in-the-us-surfaces-online
some people just have a hard time losing weight and maintaining unfortuntely
i doubt she'll come back unless she develops a full blown starving or purging habit
Those light brown contacts his stylist insists on makes him look like a lizard person>>295942
Maybe the comments about Asians having flat heads?>>295974
It’s amazing she was ever an idol. She seems to fit in well in the US, happy for her honestly
She's probably just dealing with the hormonal shit lots of teens experience that messes with their skin. It's one thing to pick apart an adult who can make their own choices, but it feels weird coming after a teenager who's still under her parents' care.
I hope she doesn't come back because she'll definitely get more hate from Koreans. She's better off growing up and enjoying her life as a regular teen in the US.
There was speculation that she's a lesbian because of her short nails. And by "speculation", I mean someone made a sarcastic comment on her instagram about the length of her nails and the press reported on it, because of course they did. No one thought it was maybe because she plays bass and you can't play bass with long ass nails.
I mean, I WISH she was into women but I've never gotten that vibe from her.
I used to think he hated it but he seems to take it all in stride now
Maybe V hates it because he seems like such a whiny baby and wants to break free into being an actor or photographer or some shit whatever he’s delusional enough to think he’d be good at
I get this feeling that deep down jimin really hates his fans, even his korean ones. Idk I just get a bad feeling about him lol
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i wonder what he would've grown up looking like without all the plastic surgery and the constant use of contacts…
That reminds me of back when people kind of memed about Kris being some kind of dork when it was pretty obvious he didn’t want to be there.
And then there he went. Man, the drama that followed that. Those were some times.
Lol that was such a good time for kpop drama
I remember rumors of people hearing Tao crying from the SM building and “baekhyun getting hit” 😂😂😂
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he lowkey looked like a more asian leafyishere ?
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lmao she says this is a joke but it's so desperate and some fans deadass think like this. him liking troye sivan's music doesn't really prove anything, you don't have to be gay to enjoy a gay artist's music. them seeing bts' interactions with each other as romantic or sexual is funny because all of these interactions are either obviously fanservice or just friends being comfortable around each other.
of course if any of them is actually gay, it's okay but you've seen all of these guys being interested in women countless times lol. jungkook's been super talkative about his fanboy crush on iu since he was a kid. this is the group that made the ultimate heterosexual anthem war of hormone for fuck's sake
I watched a good video a while back that theorised South Korea's obsession with beauty and appearance was created from the entertainment they had after they'd become more developed as a country; it was mostly television and game shows with attractive idols and models and such. I think that's pretty accurate when wondering why they're so obsessed with beauty back there to unhealthy standards. Also makes me think they have an inferiority thing where they always fall back on appearance to seem better than other countries and have some sort of advantage because for a while SK was a very undeveloped country in terms of identity. No wonder so many people kill themselves there honestly. Having a whole country fixated on shallow looks and plastic surgery and perfect looking idols to be influenced from is a recipe for disaster and self hate in its people>>295952
Jesus Christ this is terrifying to scroll down to in a dark room all by yourself lol
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Jimin the lizard person is basically the (un)official face of these threads now, huh?
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If you’re talking about your idols without considering the country/culture they come from then you’re missing a huge part of the puzzle but go ahead, talk about the minuscule details of your faves nose job for the 1000th time.
Maybe there should be two threads, one for people who want to stan and talk about heir faves in a slightly negative way (but can’t elsehwhere because the kpop fandom is so sensitive) and a thread for people who actually want to critique kpop as a whole
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damn bruh, you sound like the bitter one here. if it bothers you so much go somewhere else or just post a picture of some botched idol you think is ugly. it's true that you can't really discuss some topics of kpop without having to look at korean society as whole.>>295950>>295965
either that or they look supremely stupid when they dance. look at e'dawn's crackhead ass dancing when there isn't some show trying to edit the dance to make it look good.https://youtu.be/X0re_qiB5P0
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Another ex koreaboo. Tragic.
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armys hyping up V/taehyung and shilling him as one of the most attractive male idols has to be the funniest thing i've ever seen. he's seriously so ugly and pulls the most retarded faces. for some reason every time i'm subjected to a picture of him i feel like he probably stinks. i guess i'm not the only one, some other idol thought the same thing when she saw him in real life lmaoo.https://pannative.blogspot.com/2017/05/a-female-singer-talks-about-how-she.html
Lmao imagine being such a loser that you can’t stand to hear anything slightly negative about a country that doesn’t give a fuck about you. Can’t relate!
You just want to stan under the guise of being critical so you can fake a feeling of superiority over other fans. You didn’t like your faves outfit one time? Wow, so critical, so brave, you really need an anon board to express such a bold opinion.
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Anon confess. Tell us your truth.
>Femcel travels to Korea>Blue hair and a buzz cut>Thinks everyone is gonna love her because she is so different and not like other girls>Koreans fin her fat and ugly>Now spends all day ranting about how awful and backwards is korean society while she eats the third burger of the day.>Tragic
You’ve clearly never been to Asia.
Even the ugliest and fattest of western girls get boatloads of attention, praise, and guys going after them in those countries. Just stop trying, you have no idea what you’re talking about.
Oops, forgot to clarify. I know she's Thai; I was wondering if you guys thought she /resembled/ a white girl like people used to comment on before lol
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“And he has a clean and beautiful feet. Everybody know that.“
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what? you don't like this anon? kek
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this discussion of BTSs feet reminded me of this for some reason
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What the hell, dude's a freak. Short as hell, skinny as ALL hell and also has clown feet lol.
Also anon I hate you for making search yoongi feet on Google. Time to delete my browser history of this cancer.
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you know what they say about dudes with big feet, anons.
speaking of which, when i saw this chart on /g/ i immediately thought of this thread lol. no idea how accurate it is, but a lot of dudes in kpop do seem like theyre constantly compensating for something……
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Idk if it's because I'm high but his face looks so effed up in this gif.
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i hate myself for scrolling all the way down
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What's up with armys being pressed at Jungkook not being an uwu baby boy anymore lol
>>296280>Does anyone else have a problem with fans referring to idols by their real names?
Not really. A lot if not most idols use their given names as stage names anyway, so if the stage name were to create some form of boundary then where would that leave them? Regardless of whether idols use stage names a lot of their nicknames tend to be derived from their real names anyway, so in that case that should be even more intrusive but it’s completely normalized within the industry.
I agree that fans trying to act all intimate and buddy-buddy with idols like they know them IRL is kind of cringey but at the end of the day harms no-one and rather plays into the idol’s favor since a happy fan means yet another stan to buy albums and stream music to fuel their lifestyle.
Doesn't really bother me. IMO that kind of thing depends on how closely they tie their public image to their stage name. Like in this anon's example >>296282
I didn't even know Nicki Minaj's real name for years because she presents herself entirely under the name Nicki Minaj, whereas many idols refer to each other casually by their real names. People rarely call Taehyung "V", so I don't feel weird calling him Taehyung.
Yeah I knew these kboos who insisted on calling all idols by their real names, I cringed everytime I heard “hoseeuhk” and “tayhung”
It’s not convenient if you can’t even make your mouth form the correct sounds. What a lying cop out way to defend real koreaboo behavior
It’s honestly even beyond that now. BTS stan twitter and Tumblr is full of people who only refer to them by their designated fan pet names, like “Tae” and “Gguk”
I think so much of it comes from fan fiction culture or trying to emulate what K-fans do.
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you forgot lil meow meow anon LMAO
speaking of armys, how are taehyung/V's fans gonna edit his hair like this when they know damn well he has an entire football field for a forehead
I’m sure there are millions of kpop fans around the world who butcher their real korean names out loud in misguided attempts to sound more authentic. Not to mention the fact that romanized Hangul is wildly insufficient.
V is way easier to type than taehyung which doesn’t even accurately depict what his name actually sounds like. There is no reason for I-fans to not use V, or RM, or rapmon, all of which are easier to type/say than namjoon. No reason to type seokjin, letters that don’t even sound anything like his real name, over Jin, yet loser armys across the internet do it anyway. There is no logical reason to do it, it just makes y’all feel better.
i literally thought that was kris from exo
anyways ik it was talked about earlier on in the thread but i'm hoping that the "damage control" (vandalizing the bighit building with post-its and spamming the fancafe with WW2 and rants) that kfans are doing for BTS collabing w/ the Jap nationalist won't work hhh
I can't wait for korea to just blacklist BTS/Bighit and hopefully the same will happen here in America…forgetting Kpop ever existed bc just like their fans say "BTS paved the way."
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>>296358>anyways ik it was talked about earlier on in the thread but i'm hoping that the "damage control" (vandalizing the bighit building with post-its and spamming the fancafe with WW2 and rants)
yoooo holy shit is this real?? LMFAO if there's pics or articles please post the tea thank you
They do it because Kfans do it.
But it makes sense for Koreans to revert back to their real korean names, instead of strange bastardized konglish names that make no sense to them. Of course it’s easier for K-fans to type/say names that actually exist in their everyday lives. Not to mention you can hardly fantasize someone is your boyfriend when you have to call them “jayee hopuh oppa” or whatever lmao
International fans though? They are just trying to feel like they’re a part of the in crowd too. But as we went over in the last thread, your idols don’t consider you real fans anyway.
"the boys aint that stupid to support that neo nazi. the boys know better."
hhh i'm so glad i left those delusional ass fandoms. it's just like when bts did a whole photoshoot at a holocaust memorial. maybe i should post those pictures under bts posts for fun and freshen armys memories.
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I’ve never quite understood the hype Suzy gets from K-pop fans and the public in Korea. They always make her out to be some ethereal goddess and of of the top visuals of her era. She’s pretty but very vanilla. In my opinion, she can’t hold a candle to Fei when it comes to looks (but Koreans probably don’t seem fond of Fei cuz she’s Chinese and tan, unfortunately).
This whole streaming obsession is so stupid, everyone knows these numbers don't represent the actual number of people BTS is reaching. I understand that they are trying to break records but 10 random people listening the song once is more valuable than the same 1 fan listening to the same song 10 times.
I hope something like that never happens to anyone but I'm afraid army's stupidity might cause something really bad one day. Some of them don't realize that they are damaging their oppars and uwu baby boys more than anyone else
>>296418>tweet openly about cheating the system on a pretty impressive scale>uhmm guys if any reporters want to talk about this stuff DON'T talk to them they'll TWIST YOUR WORDS and make us out to be CHEATERS
Thanks for posting this anon, gave me a laugh.>>296420
Yeah, this stuff only harms BTS. The more they're puffed up in the media as "global artists" (using Spotify numbers as proof etc) the more humiliating it's going to be when it becomes clear that only their fans know who they are, and they fade back into obscurity. As compared to everyone and their dog knowing Gangnam Style. In the UK we had fucking Ed Balls dancing to it on Strictly, people dancing to it at their weddings, etc. That's the kind of popularity with the general public BTS will never achieve.
Sorry to rant a bit more, but part of me wishes that they could just be a popular group in SK/Asia and among Kpop fans, but having the BTS-as-global-megastars hype is setting a standard for them that I just don't believe they can live up to. It's the difference between them having a good career by any normal standard and being set an immensely high standard of "global megastars" that they can't achieve and by THAT standard being a failure. Seems a shame.
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lmao who in bighit even thought that these stage names were good ideas and actually suggested them
>>296435>Names like Baby J and Kid were some options
I'm shuddering at the thought of a grown ass man having those names and how his creepy fans would twist that around for their weird fetishes. But then I remember that it happens anyway
>I'm pretty when I smile and because I'm sweet>My name has the deepest meaning
Holy shit get over yourselves lmao. Don't strain your hand from jerking off your intellectual selves too hard
This highlights what it means to be a Kpop stan. Fans are basically pressured to stream and vote for stupid shit that don't matter in the long run. If the GP don't like you, then the GP don't like you.
So, it's always funny to me when BTS performs they get "genuine" tweets about who certain members are. No one cares for them here, they aren't a household name.
the way kpop companies have kpoppies snatched by the balls seriously amazes me every time. think about it: we all know the physical album business is dying, and that's what makes artists and companies a good amount of money outside of touring. streaming doesn't do jack shit for them. so they get their stupid rich (sometimes not even rich–just stupid) fans to care about irrelevant charts and titles that convinces them to buy a shit ton of albums just to get them to the top of that chart. sometimes these fans buy them in the bulk, whether it's 10, 30, or 500.
shoot, haven't exo-ls and armies managed to get EXO and BTS to "over" a million album sales just from their bulk buying?
and kpop companies know just a CD won't work, because barely anybody uses them, so they stuff them with a bunch of merchandise like a photo book and cards and stickers and shit. and they make each one individualized by each member of their big ass groups, so fans feel the need to buy a bunch of albums just to get the one they want, since companies make sure not to make it possible to choose which one you'd want a majority of the time.
sorry for the thesis ya'll, i just had to get this out, anytime i think about how much these kpop companies have finessed the physical album business it gets me going LMAO
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This woman looks in her 40s. Older BTS fans are really pathetic.
>>296459>there is an easier to write/pronounce option handed to fans on a silver platter and they choose to instead butcher Korean names and act like it’s just ~easier? Embarrassing.
Agreed, that's what I was thinking as well. I used to study Korean so I understand what you mean. I agree that "Jeongguk" or "Taehyung" aren't the easiest names to pronounce for someone who doesn't speak Korean, I said it's normal that non-Koreans are having trouble pronouncing their real names, but it's weird when these fans constantly hear the correct pronunciations in videos where members talk with each other, yet still pronounce their names wrong.
I saw some video where a shipper was trying to analyze Taehyung and Jeongguk to prove that Taekook is real. She went really deep, went through so many details and obviously watched tons of videos to find proofs, but she was pronouncing their names completely wrong lol. It's funny that they think they know everything about them when they can't even pronounce their names correctly
its weird because shes super pretty to me but she also has such a western look to her
she looks like a white girl to me
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v said this and it became a phrase
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how did they manage to get progressively more retarded looking damn.https://twitter.com/holybangtan/status/1040901250114453505
this actually makes me upset IMO
I became a fan during hyyh and I really liked the music they were putting out and they all looked average. Now they look like lizards and their music is no longer basic shit everyone can enjoy but its just loud horse shit that includes the vocal line (Jimin + Jin) screaming. The only competent performer is hoseok but he fucked up his face so…
I wonder how much dirt dispatch has on bighit and bts. With all these scandals with bts and the Japanese collab, I hope dispatch just spills the beans already
With Army's expired victim card will not help them if those scandals are proven true>>296536
I've been listening to other less popular groups like Astro/SF9 and I've come to realize that these bands among many others can outperform any bts member in vocals and dance area
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samefag; it was taemin with jimin but it looks like he was just vaping.
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this reminded me of you guys
is that lay?
man what happened
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found this shit recommended on tumblr
now bts has ruined Heathers for me
Just read the whole thread. Saesangs are creepy as shit.
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Agreed. Not really creepy, just a sad, desperate fangirl trying to see the boybander she likes in person and then staring him. I think chances are pretty high that she made it up anyway. The only thing I found disturbing was the fact that she was willing to drop $800 to get a glance at precious Jungkook.
Pic was hilarious though.
I went to a kpop concert this year alone(plz no roast) and while in line I was stuck talking to a saesang (I later found her social media and it checked out). She had been to every stop at the tour and apparently found out which flights the group was going to be on (through saesang sites) and booked seats for herself. She bragged about essentially harassing them in the airportLike she legitimately thought she was flirting with one of the members.
She told me about how she was passing a note to the member she harassed (said that he started it lol) and then got in trouble when the member told a flight attendant to get her to leave him alone. It was an incredibly bizarre experience. Everything she said about essentially stalking them she twisted to make it sound like the member she liked was into it. Saesangs are truly delusional. I could go on about this experience because she said so much shit that made her sound crazy and almost dangerous but kept talking to her because she was fascinating. She was also in her early 30's I believe. A big part of me thinks she made it all up, which is weirder to me for some reason. I have an easier time believing she was a saesang because kpop fans are nuts and she had crazy eyes
Sorry for blogpost
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even weirder is when the people who infantilize them also want to fuck them?? like what is up with that weird shit; go outside for once in your life damn.
throwback to when the stylist noonas or whatever gave jhorse these retarded instagram brows lmaooo
silly anon, they debuted with corny social commentary, gregorian chants, an apocalyptic dance break and a majestic display of their superpowers… Which obviously flopped.
Jokes aside, everytime I see Kai laughing at girl groups' choreographies I just want to shove every single wolf performance into his face and remind him that he's no longer a ballet dancer but a glorified stripper.
it makes me laugh so hard when fans criticize girl groups for having stupid or sexual dances that are all the same (which a lot of them are, don't get me wrong) but then turn around and say how complex and ~unique~ boy group dances are. boy groups have just as retarded dance routines and do just as much fan service in their dances as girl groups do. also, i think the only time i ever enjoyed a boy group covering a girls song was when seventeen does it, as they actually attempt to do it well. boy groups doing ridiculous covers of girl groups were funny the first few times, but now it's just annoying.
also, what is it with fans thinking every song needs a complex dance routine to it? and then they all want them to sing live? and make it 100% perfect every time? like there's nothing wrong with high standards, but you're going to have to choose 2 out of 3 a majority of the time–they can't sing live, have insane dance routines, and hit every note and move perfectly at the same time.
kpop songs are almost always the same: ridiculous high notes, rap break, bridge, hook-oriented, break down, and a mixed beat.
I got into kpop not too long ago, maybe a year or so, before that I just listened to the few songs my friends showed me but I decided that I wanted to see what was the hype about and learn some dances since they seemed fun, needless to say that after I discovered fancams I got pretty disappointed. Once you realize that the formula of kpop choreographies is having a group of mediocre dancers (to take advantage of the cheerleader effect) + good camera work you won't see them the same way.
And yeah, boy groups usually have harder dances but that doesn't make them any better when 1. the routines are just bad and look retarded 2. half of the members don't know how to dance (vid related at 4:22).
>the only time i ever enjoyed a boy group covering a girls song was when seventeen
agreed. they seem to take it as seriously as they take their own songs (at least from the videos I've seen) and if it's just an act at least they're being respectful, although it may have to do with the fact that they have fairly cute concepts, like adore u, pretty u or mansae and they're used to it.
And speaking of those songs. I honestly don't hate cute concepts on gg the problem is that they're so passive and boring. You can be energetic and have initiative while being cute and charming… But no, of course they have to act like clueless kids for their uncle fans, instead of doing a fun and somewhat challenging choreo while singing about how the boy you like makes you feel happy when he laughs or something like that.
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She literally looks like a real doll. I feel kind of bad for her, she must have some serious image issues to go that extent.
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Seems like she wasn't the main aggressor afterall https://www.soompi.com/article/1231593wpp/goo-hara-shares-side-story-assault-incident-boyfriend>Goo Hara shared her diagnoses from the gynecologist and orthopedist. The diagnosis from the gynecologist reads, “uterus and vagina hemorrhage.” The orthopedist’s presumptive diagnosis lists, “cervical sprain,” “facial contusions and sprain,” “lower leg contusions and sprain,” “right forearm and additional sprains.”
She got raped and physically assaulted by her abusive boyfriend, tried to defend herself and SHE has to apologize.
I fucking hate everything
cause koreans are mad racist. they want japan to like them
and they want to make music in japan because they're oh so much better at japanese.
their love yourself albums don't make sense. If they love being idols(apparently that's what idol is about)they have to understand that not everyone is going to like them.
Most of their songs contradict itself
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Found this on some thread via the usual "uwu stream some shitty bts song, look at my beautiful kings" how bliND
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what the fuck am i looking at here? taehyung/v's head this big or smth?
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No. The back of his head is flat. You are looking at a bunch of layers and probably extensions to give his head the illusion of shape and to hide his giant forehead.
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his long ass forehead doesn't help either
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I'm guessing J hope is finally transitioning..?
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looks like pale kris jenner
they seriously do look like him, makes them even more uncanny
also lol @ them being supposed to be caricatures of the south korean ps beauty ideal and end up looking like jhope of all people lmao the irony
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He needs to stop with the fillers or he is gonna look like this creepy twins in a few years. It's better to be ugly instead of a plastic surgery abomination.
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Ok why tf is Vernon wearing an MDMA shirt?? Who ok’d this???
would be so cool to be able to find all of the idols pre debut social media but k netizens are AMAZING at wiping peoples histories its weird as shit
like they have all this stuff and just sit on it to "protect their oppas and unnies" until they get mad at them then they release it at the risk of being arrested for it
the internet is so weird over there
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You’d think that someone like Tiffany wouldn’t be friends with someone like Jessi at first glance. Then you look at their pre-debut posts and then see how similar the two actually are.
Anyway, Jessi is basically like a Gangnam unnie with tan skin. Seeing her pre-debut photos shocked me a little.
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And here’s her now. I like her being kind of like an anti-idol but she straight up looks so cartoonish nowadays.
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Yep. Jessi gets away with being a dumb bitch because she’s the token ABG/“bold” tan-skinned chick in a sea of copy-and-paste ghost-faced idols who aren’t even allowed to cuss without people making a big deal about it.
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“B-But oppar didn’t mean it!!!~ uwu”
Anyway >pic related is unnerving to look at. When will these Korean make-up artists learn?
>>297612>I'd rather listen to tomorrow or i need you than idol any day.
same, these 2 are some of their best songs. i find their pre-wings stuff enjoyable, dope, just one day, tomorrow, baepsae, cypher 2&3. their latest albums seem so rushed compared to their earlier music.
i think the video for i need u was pretty good. as i remember that video was made with a tight budget, they used their manager's car and they used the bighit staff as actors because they couldn't afford extras at that time. it's better most of the pretentious pseudo-intellectual videos they make nowadays.
>>297672>just look at that one time wanna one didn't realize they were being filmed and in those few minutes almost blew their reputation with the gp lmaoooo
for me their best ones are i need u, run and butterfly. they’re nice to listen to (imo) and are emotional in a way that feels more raw and not pseudo-philosophical/-intellectual. they also feel more genuine because they’re not stuffed full with fake-deep bullshit that seems pulled out of their ass.
i really wanna know what members said the more vulgar things oh my god it would be fun to go through member by member
also after reading it i ended up on this article: https://www.8days.sg/sceneandheard/entertainment/people-are-turning-against-choi-siwon-after-his-dog-causes-death-9343440#slideshow-1
such an absurd scandal for a superstar to be caught up in. very tragic though. may the lady rest in peace.
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damn jimin looking emaciated as fuck. no comment on jhorse.
samefagging just to add that i read more into who said what and i’ll forever remember guanlin as handjob guy from now on lmao
i want more incidents like this, especially regarding male idols. it’s aggravating to know gg members get lynched for the most minuscule shit while bg members can do far more ~scandalous~ things and not get nearly as much crap for it. more bg milk plz @ kpop.
amber very well might never come out because of her family and how ingrained mega church christianity is in the community she grew up in
i actually have more hope for korean idols in korea who arent as super into western religion to come out, despite koreas general homophobia, than i do for idols like her and siwon
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Am I the only one that doesn't find Loona all that appealing? They are pretty boring with that over done concept. Their company has so much money and yet they are always wearing the same v neck sweather and tennis skirt. It's cringe af how Kim Lip and Olivia is always singing about eclipses and being an egotist in their songs. They have 0 synergy and it doesn't help how they are constantly segregated into their sub groups when they dance, stand next to each other, photoshoots, etc. I really don't see Loona lasting for anymore than 2 years
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i like loona, most of them are a bunch of cute girls who seem to not have ruined their faces yet, excluding Vivi lmaooo
their personalities are pretty great too
But their company is honestly gonna make em flop if they keep up with same shit over and over again, especially after their debut project a lot of people have high expectations. Also, 12 members is overkill and that white face shit Korean entertainment loves so much gotta go.
the younger generation by and large has been more receptive to homosexuality, and there have been plenty of idols who have spoken in support of it
the ones that spam religious quotes on twitter all day on their days off are usually the closet cases
the average christian in korea isnt extreme in their views unless they have lived in america/are friends with americans
Uniformed debuts are pretty common, but I'm tired of seeing them repeat colors after introducing a new one, especially if the new colors feature different cuts for the members. It must be confusing as fuck for the general audience, too, because Olivia, Hyunjin, and to a lesser extent, Choerry, are easily mixed up in a group of 12 girls dressed identically. I dunno why they're not using their individual colors to familiarize each girl, like Red Velvet and Oh My Girl did.>>297826
With the amount of fillers getting pumped into them, the girls all look mighty tight and swollen. Yves is hot as fuck, but they need to let her chin settle or something.
For the best interest of my music enjoyability, I hope they have a healthy run, but I can easily imagine them unable to make back their investment and disbanding or amassing a BTS-rivalling insane fandom to their detriment.
the average korean christian is not evangelical unless the person associates frequently with americans or attends a church frequented by missionairies
amber literally attends a formosan church
its not typical for asians to be super involved in westernized religious practices unless they are influenced by missionairies or westerners
the average koreans disapproval of homosexulaity is not religiously based, its culturally based and the younger generations are shifting away from the idea that its abnormal
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What the hell is this? Seems to be a China boy group under JYP, with kids reeeeally young, from 11 to 14. The teasers and images are so grown up and make me uncomfortable, like they make the little kids stare at the camera like regular idols. And they use makeup on them and stuff, but the worst is the comments. I haven't seen anything straight pedo but they are already fangirling about small kids and I can just image 20 year old women on the other side of the keyword. Some comments I saw for the teaser of the youngest member, 11 years old.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEJvwM92qME
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maybe they see them as sons or whatever but I can't imagine why anyone would want to stan someone that young.
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I feel there's a whole lot of crazy to uncover with this group, but I'm too disgusted to do it… searched their name and already see ship videos, and I'm not sure what that thumbnail is but if they made these little kids do those "almost kissing" game… why????
Saw a tweet that said the following too:>You cute little thing. Come to noona. I will give you lots and lots of candies.
who…who are they suppose to appeal to? i thought part of the purpose of idols is to be super desirable and make fans obsess over you. these are children, yeah there are pre-teen/child kpop fans but most seem to be teens or young adults, definitely not the type who would be interested in lusting after this group (at least they shouldn't…eck)
i can maybe understand viewing them as more of a younger brother/son type, but it's still strange to fangirl over an actual child. i can't even think of a western equivalent to this…yes there are child performers, but they're pretty much strictly marketed to kids and never portrayed in such a strangely adult way like this
not to mention this is just asking for weird pedo fans
Seriously. Does Asia even have pedophilia laws to protect children? I'm always hearing about the shit that goes down in Japan (Like the piece of shit creator of Rurouni kenshin who got a slap on the wirst and a small fine for basically owning tons of child porn videos.)
It's really disturbing that they market children so young and dont care when adults want to fuck them. ugh
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What the fuck is this photo, what is JYP doing? What are these kids parents doing? Fuck kpop fans… A fan literally said the kid reminds her of Wonho, who is the biggest fuckboy in kpop ever.
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>>297858>i can maybe understand viewing them as more of a younger brother/son type
Are you new to kpop? The moment these kids grow a few inches you'll see their "noonas" screaming "the disrespect!! why you so handsome now" etc, they will sexualize them the second they look "old enough" for them. And try to hide it behind the "proud mom" excuse. It's disgusting.
Translation of image I found on Twitter:>Look at this beauty.>He's 11 but who cares.>You're going to have chinese grandchildren, just wait for my little chinese guy to grow up.
i like how a lot of these commenters have jungkook icons/usernames, you know, another idol that was super sexualized when he was underage. i don't understand how anybody can be interested in a group like this. i could understand if they were marketed towards fellow children but…they're not?
also, jyp can release as much music and shit that he wants but he won't distract me from the fact that he is supposed to do a press conference about the religious cult that he apparently is a part of. apparently it's going to be held this month, september, but it's almost half way through the month and there hasn't been any report on whether he's going to hold it or not.http://www.asianjunkie.com/2018/05/01/dispatch-reports-on-jyps-alleged-involvement-with-salvation-sect-jyp-issues-denial/
(link for anyone out of the loop & curious)
Of course we cant just have all of the dweeby little elementary/middle school kids in korea just have this (they are a huge demographic in terms of korean fans), twitter has to hype it up to be more than what it is.
Imagine back to being 12 with disney channel posters on your wall and having some gross large following of people in their mid twenties talk about how they want to fuck them like this shit was created for them to fap to.
So, RPF is a huge thing in every kpop fandom and honestly I like lurking and cringing at how delusional these ppl are
My question is: do kpoppies see their faves as characters in media?
This nsfw-ish taekook comic really got me thinking: https://twitter.com/kkukku0224/status/1042540912188899328
I only ever understand it when fans draw things like that for anime/cartoons/comics, not real ass people.
not necessarily responding to your exact question, but it's within the same topic ig?
i'm genuinely curious what these people are like in real life. are they autistic? never go outside? have no friends? are secretly in love with their friends/think their friends are secretly in love with them??? like you said, i don't really care about fictional shipping, but shipping real people who are friends is so fucking weird. it's not even just a stan thing; people ship even youtubers who just happen to work together in the same environment and are comfortable with each other, regardless if they are already in relationships with other people. they must seriously not have normal social lives if they actually think two people so much as smiling at each other means they want to shag behind the scenes and are hiding a romantic relationship from the world.
it's one thing to think two people would make a cute couple, but shipping stans go waaaay overboard, it's past creepy.
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For real. If she looks emaciated in images taken through a professional camera, she probably looks even more bony in real life (since the camera does actually make people look heavier).
Also YG saying that BlackPink is aLl nAtUrAl!!1!!1 is so kekworthy after seeing their pre-debut pics.
these "noona fans" are fucking weird. they constantly baby idols, talk about how they watched them grow up and then they cry about how hot they are. they even write that they are a noona in their twitter bios, they take usernames with the word noona. the fact that they are a noona is all they tweet about. we get it, you're 37 with 2 kids and you are a proud army. so impressive, give her a medal omg>>297888
rpf is uncomfortable. most of them say they love them and want to date them (lol) or be friends with them, it's not like they will ever get to even meet them but how the fuck are you going to look at a real human being in real life after writing a 90k word long thing about them fucking their best friends in great detail, i don't know.>>297892
i think the same as well. things shippers see as "chanbaek moment!!!!", "taekook is going strong!!" are literally 2 humans having human interactions and they don't mean anything to anyone who isn't a delulu shipper lmao. watch some random bts interview and if jimin and jungkook looks at each other for like 2 seconds the comments will be like "jikook is feeding us guys.. jimin looked at him and slowly tilted his head to the left and blinked. this means that someone found their soulmate in body language"
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they're /our guys/
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Not sure if this has been posted before, but how is this supposed to work out? How can it be funny or entertaining when they don't understand what he says?
It's seriousy embarrassing that they don't learn English. There are other non-native speakers working in the american entertainment industry (something bts are clearly interested in as well) and they all put in the effort to at least learn the language. Quite rude actually, that they always demand everybody caters to them by providng translaters or having rapmonster do all the work. If I were him I'd put my foot down long ago. Just proves that only dumb kids chose to be idols.
I figured it's due to the constant spew of content going through the kpop streams. There are some groups who have 3 comebacks a year, which is why BP fans freak when coming back after two years or several is considered normal in the US.
So to answer your question: Yes, Kpop groups are very much forgettable. The use of the world comeback is to get fans or fans who've moved on to other groups hyped.
Their fans seriously bask in BTS' nationalism. I'm not saying don't be proud of your country, but if you're actively going to American talk shows and interviews, and promoting there, at least make the effort to learn English. Like deadass, BTS have made full albums in Japanese, you can't tell me they can't make the effort to bust out some fully refined English. At this point, it makes me think that the BigHit ceo, Bang Penis, may be a full blown supporter of Japanese neo-nazis. RE: Holocaust memorial + having BTS collab with a neo-nazi.
Now, that'd be milky.
To be fair they don't speak japanese on japanese talk shows/interviews either, and if they do it's on par with what the stuff they say in english interviews. The only group/solo artist I know that are actually fluent are DBSK and Boa, maybe KARA too, and they had to do that because back then they weren't trying to make it as "Kpop artists" but as Jpop artist. They also regularly work with Japanese producers whereas your average Kpop group just awkwardly translates their korean songs into japanese.
Kpop is a niche genre there now, just how it is in the west, and the people that buy their music know this and don't care. It's like how your average weeb doesn't want a dub for their anime, as long as there's subs they'll buy it. It's almost part of the product, so to say.
This entire western promo is just promo for BTS in Korea essentially, as it's always been. When BTS were fucking nobodies in Korea they had a bigger fandom in the west and used that fact to media play in Korea, which gave them the clout to become what they are today.
Seeing Koreans get triggered
by BigHit wanting to collaborate with a supposed Japanese right-winger and responding with almost as equally cancerous nationalism was pretty funny ngl. The irony.
I don’t care for BTS interviews outside of Korea but they’re actually being coddled as much as you claim they are, that’s really embarrassing. I’m sure any mentions of hooking up will have their fangirls ditching them, but how can they expect to advance further when only one
member out of seven can hold a conversation in English? They love that American clout but it sounds like they aren’t really trying that hard to adapt. They’ll always be seen as an East Asian novelty to the Western public and that’s one of the reasons why.
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Dang, you’re right on the money. >>297728
Amber’s more butch and toned than 80% of male K-pop idols. Not even saying that’s a bad thing because she seems more physically healthy compared to the skellys prancing around nowadays. The backlash she would receive from coming out might not even be as bad as expected. f(x) is dead and she’s not even that relevant to the Korean public.
Damn what the hell, I googled Boystory and they really are marketed like adults, with makeup.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPwTrTK9FzM
With lyrics like these the target audience must be pedos. Who else? 11 yo girls?
Kboos are ana-chans. They make the same excuses for Sunmi and all the other skellies in kpop even though you literally get news of them fainting and going to ER from time to time>>297908
Lmao, me too anon. But I'm gonna find some other group, I feel like BTS is overdone these days.>>297932
I don't know why, but I feel like she's not going to come out any time soon. She seems very stubborn in her denial… I predict that she will only come out after some other lesbian idol does it. That, or she will take the tranny route, because for religious people "it's better to be a tranny than a homo"
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I had such a huge crush on Amber when fx debuted. I love super cute butch women and i hope she just comes out and gets a cute girlfriend. It's really sad to stay closeted.
It always feels like they're on these american shows to make fun of them, rather than promote them. I agree, how can it be funny at all when it's going to be Jimmy Fallon talking and the band nodding awkwardly?
They either need to learn English or stop going on these shows
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anyway even if she’s closeted she’s been doing a lot of girl crush shit since the beginning and even used to have fangirls calling her oppa instead of unnie (which must’ve sucked ass) so she’s already associated with the whole ~lesbian luvurr~ fantasy. maybe i’m naïve but i fail to see how anyone would be shocked by her coming out, homophobic social climate or not.
amber has also been doing a bunch of photoshoots with luna like pic related where they’ve clearly been emulating the ‘butch and femme’ juxtaposition.
Yeah, I agree. Amber has been doing the lesbian imagine thing since the beginning. her coming out wouldnt shock anyone and would probably make some lesbians happy.
Sorry, i just saved the image from a site. I didn't alter the filename.
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Loona has the most ugliest outfits, literally all of their live outfits are different color variants of this. Every member in Loona had the run of the mill idol ps pack, eyes, nose, lips and jaw. If they get anymore done they'll look overdone like Vivi, since this is kpop we're talking about they'll get more work done during comebacks
No matter what fucking corner i stumble upon on the internet there is always one retard screaming "STAND TALENT STAND LOONA".
I've never heard them, where did the hype come from? And are they even popular in Korea?
Has anybody seen this? They can barely answer interview questions, how the hell are they going to deliver a 3 minute speech to the UN
Hopefully they paid somebody competent to write their speech and we don't have to cringe through ratmon stumbling through English while spouting fake deep nonsense that doesn't really mean anything.
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Another idol that I think could just come out already is Jo Kwon. He’s so flamboyantly gay that anyone can sense it from a mile away. I’m definitely making asssumptions here but his love for dressing up in drag, highly campy mannerisms/personality, him getting caught at a gay club, and same-sex dating rumors make it hard to believe he’s 100% hetero. No one would be surprised by him coming out. I don’t think the backlash would be too bad either because his group (2AM) is also dead and the South Korean public seems to have accepted his persona by this point.
>>297964> That, or she will take the tranny route, because for religious people "it's better to be a tranny than a homo"
God anon, don't put that out into the universe. I'd be legitimately upset. She deserves better.>>298119
I can't believe anyone has any doubts about Jo Kwon's sexuality. That closet is completely transparent.
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Whatever they did to her face….she needs to sue.
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Dami from Dreamcatcher.
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She looks just like the Gangnam unni caricature.
can she even breathe?>>298195
she looks exactly like the middle one
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sunmi is insanely skinny. i used to be like her where i'd say "i eat a lot but for some reason i can't gain weight!! ):" and was always called anorexic but i've come to realize that having a few small snacks/not eating for half the day and then being able to demolish one big meal isn't really "eating a lot."
i wonder if she gets sick a lot or has a hard time performing? i remember when i was supo waifish that i had no energy at all, even going up the stairs had me struggling to breathe. she probably gets a ton of IV drips too considering a lot of idols practically live off of them. apologies for semi-blogpost.
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Korean Christians are fucking insane whether or not they have lived in America or if they’ve never spoken a word of English in their lives. There are SO many cults, and even ones that aren’t technically cults act culty by trying to trick people into joining and trying to take over their lives. They bring that crazy hierarchical, follow the leader bullshit into everything they do. There are so many groups walking the streets going up to people like “do you know our holy mother?” Reading off of cue cards because they can’t actually speak English, trying to get your money and info. My Christian friend literally stopped going to church while she lived in Korea because the way they do things made her so uncomfortable. Yes they try to influence politics. Yes they are dangerous. http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-03/south-korean-pastor-arrested-allegedly-detaining-followers-fiji/10067964?pfmredir=sm
My friend was here when these assholes ruined a queer festival in incheon and got violent https://twitter.com/koryodynasty/status/1038307443837521922?s=21
No, Christianity is not as big there as in the west and homophobia there isn’t religion-based, but they have their own special fucked up way of doing things. And yeah some younger Koreans might be more okay with homosexuality but don’t let that fool you - many young people openly told me they thought it was a disease and that gays are depraved (mostly just gay men) and there is really not much of an opportunity to come out of the closet if you want to live a normal life. There are no anti-discrimination laws.
And yeah blah blah blah this isn’t a korean culture thread, but so much wrong information gets passed on through the kpop fandom. Saying amber is somehow more closeted because she’s American is insane. There are SO MANY closeted idols who have never left their country except to do concerts in Japan or whatever. People see small steps being taken by idols saying supportive or at least non homophobic things and thing that represents the rest of the country… it doesn’t.
Exactly, it fit their concept/sound perfectly.
On a side note, I have a question, I don't even know if it makes any sense but here I go:
Female idols are skinny, but why is that older girl groups during their peeks looked really skinny for real while nowadays, girl groups, albeit skinny, look really flabby? Like, compare their legs to SNSD gee era, or BEG abracadabra era, or KARA from the same time… I don't know how to put this, but it seems like they were more "dry" body wise, no extra fat, no flab on the legs, while nowadays everyone looks kinda flabby. Is it because they're just starving and adhering to carboxy shots with no exercise (besides the training)?
Many Koreans want to be skinny without showing any muscle definition, to the extent of regular korean women avoiding lifting heavy things at home or at work.
There are injections to “melt” the muscle and they probably try to lose weight in ways that will not increase muscle mass.
I think it has to do with color grading from official shows and fancams that make idols paler but to the detriment of making muscle tone disappear. Also the high-waisted bottom with cropped tops that's everywhere highlights the wider parts of the torso compared to the low/midrise of the 2000s.
There's a few idols I think who are still comparable to the lean and cut figures of peak SNSD and 9muses, but they all happened to be darker and prefer lower rise bottoms.
But it just might be that the 2000s Western hyperskinny trend also impacted Kpop, and there's surgical treatments that don't improve muscle tone, as you pointed out.
Not everything comes from western trends
In general Koreans think western women are far too thick and muscular. They think it’s weird we work out at all.
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The consequences of being thin for so long are gonna hit Sunmi hard when she's in her 40s. Osteoporosis, early menopause, heart failure, etc
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i wouldn't be surprised if idols throw that food up the minute they get off set. either that or they probably starve for a little while afterwards. i still think holding idols (especially female) to such a high beauty standard but then always wanting them to do shit with food is one of the shittiest things about kpop. and their fans think it's cute too.
Yeah and even if they ‘win’ some food prize or whatever on a tv show, its not like you see them eat eating full servings. They either get one piece of something or take a few bites and sperg about how its the best damn thing they’ve tasted while it cuts away to the next part of the show.
Its easy to look like a girl “who totally lives to eat guys!!!!!!” when you overreact and exaggerate about food and make it a big scene without actually have eaten more than a few bites.
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I love seeing kpop stans cream themselves over darker skin toned idols and praise them for being ~beautiful and confident in their natural skin tone~ who obviously tan their skin to look like that in the first place out of their own preference.
yeah it may kind of be rewarding, but there's a huge chance that they probably throw it up the minute they get off set. bulimia and the sorts is rampant in such beauty-focused industries, especially when you have idols that say shit like "i didn't even eat ice cubes bc i thought i would gain weight" or "i only eat one chicken breast a day." to them it doesn't matter if it's rewarding or delicious after a day of starving–it gets in the way of their diet restrictions.
i'm not discrediting you though, i'm sure there are a ton of idols too who consider it rewarding and don't throw it up along with having normal diets, but i've just heard way too many american stories about celebrities having staff and stuff sneak bottles of water and towels for them and such, so i can only imagine the korean celebrities.>>298793
this too, it's so funny when fans overreact and say how much they love to eat and "see!! they're totally healthy" because they took a small bite or two.
After seeing a lot of those ~melanin~ kpop posts it's obvious some people think every picture where an idol looks tan is their real skin tone and everything else is just whitewashed.
I think Jihyo looks better with a tan though.
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a lot of these idols look so much better with their natural color. hyuna looks absolutely sickening these days with the super pale skin and gauntly figure. i'm sure she used to fake tan in her bubble pop glory days but at least you could remove that shit if you don't end up liking it/wanting to continue with it; you can't remove skin bleach and it's also super dangerous.
i'm pretty sure this point was also brought up, but the blinding white filters also makes them look flat and lifeless, as they get rid of any shadows on the body and it just makes the skin look flat and dull.
Korean christians are a cult.
They believe that Jesus came to Korea as someone else and he will come back (only to Korea though as they are “the chosen ones”)
Koreaboos will never realise how much idecades of poverty affected everyone.
Currently living in Korea and can confirm the workout thing. People are super shocked when I tell them I was into heavy lifting in the states and I'm looking for a gym to lift at.
I was talking to a Korean gym bro and he was genuinely shocked that I own protein powder and a shaker bottle. Like jaw to the floor completely astounded that I even knew what protein powder was.
The reason Korean a lot of women are skinny isn't because they're thin naturally or "diet." They don't intake enough protein and many of them live off of those 5 calorie jelly drinks at the convenience stores. They're just skinnyfat or skeletal.
There's a huge influx of fat Koreans though so maybe it's turning around.
she looked incredible during bubble pop era wtf
also the terribly dry, messy, damaged dead-looking light hair really isn’t helping either. it’s reminiscent of the corpses you see in criminal dramas where they find the body after weeks/months of decomposition. the almost grayish blonde color makes how unnatural and sickly pale her skin is even more obvious too.
she was only attractive in 4minute and her early solo stuff due to styling
shes naturally ugly i dont understand why people fawn over her so hard
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can V stop calling himself "VANTE" and thinking he's a photographer please. it's irritating me.
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V/taehyung has to be the cringiest, most retarded member of BTS, on god.
lmao anon you made me giggle>>298955
he kinda gives the vibe that he was dropped on his head as a child
You know the poor boy has an IQ of 40, the dumbass probably forgot he bitched about fans calling him that.
On another note, why did BTS give him the ~deep artsy~ persona (which as to be why he's sharing those abysmal photos), instead of giving that persona to Jungkook who is actually somewhat talented in photography and art
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probably because jungkook has to retain his fuckboy/babyboy hybrid persona that noonas suck up to and being any sort of deep and artsy would probably be too much lmaooo. tbh i can't really see jungkook with whatever retarded ~deep artsy~ persona it is that taehyung has been sporting, plus taehyung has to have some sort of persona outside of autismo/~rabbits on the moon~ shit. i can't think of any other persona taehyung could really do and somewhat fit him tbh.
because the 4D cough
persona wasn't working out for him and jungkook already had the too shy to talk to girls golden maknae persona
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Reminder that Hyuna was, like, fourteen when she debuted as the ‘sexy’ one in Wonder Girls. Her fans like to pretend she’s this badass kween when the reality is that she’s been groomed since she was a kid.
The fact that Jungkook is far more talented in photography and art than Taehyung is because Taehyung had followed him? Like Taehyung saw what Jungkook was doing and did the same thing too.
Which was a bit unusual the first time I heard it…
i thought he's copying rap monster with his pretentiousness, but maybe it's both.>>299015
btw what is it with many idols loving bieber so much? do they know any other western singers?
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i hope he takes after justin in his current hobo junkie phase, can't wait
Yep. Most Koreans are just a generation or two away from living in huts and pooping in holes. That’s why even if you go to the nicest most upscale hospital in the city, your educated, rich doctor will still examine you sans gloves and without washing his or her hands, cough without covering his or her mouth, stick things in your nose and ears without disposable coverings, and have you put your naked butt in clothes the patient before you wore or have you sitting naked from the waist down on the same chair as everyone else. Also, cults everywhere, extreme superstition, and an elderly population whose manners would rival those of the slums of India.
Sudden modernization means some shit gets left by the wayside. Koreaboos have no idea.
Lmao I was thinking the same thing. Imagine a coworker copying all your hobbies.
Maybe he's just trying hard for some type of validation since he genuinely seems weird and you can tell some members (i.e. suga, and Jin) don't really like him
do these two even know eachother? lmao.
If I see Lisa or any of the blackpink bitches going from airport to airport again in my feed I will combust, I'm so tired of them popping up all the time I keep telling all my apps im not interested but they keep showing up.
The IU Diet is a popular trend by people who "just wanna see if it works!!" and who "aren't doing anything dangerous uwu~" It's an apple and small sweet potato with a low calorie shake per day.
Crash diets are nothing here. These are nosedives into concrete. The ads here around diet products are disgusting, pushing that if you're hungry that you don't need to eat and instead just drink a 5cal drink. Oh wait, now there's a 4cal. Now there's a 3cal! Here, drink this meal replacement protein shake! It's got 80 calories per scooop, and 5g protein! So healthy, Wendy is supporting it! Be an ~idol~ like her!
Idols do push an unhealthy agenda because of their producers, it's just all controlled by the manufacturers of products and the media.
this was discussed in previous threads…
During Burn The Stage, Jin and Taehyung got into an argument. Jin was performing the wrong steps, and Taehyung corrected him, but bc of the ~age hierarchy~ Jin got pissed as fuck bc he's older than Taehyung which supposedly means he's never wrong.
Taehyung and Suga never liked e/o imo bc they're complete opposites, but Big Hit is forcing the bff shit with them by making them hold hands on camera whenever they're sad/upset with e/o
ugh guys y'all really don't know? tae oppa is doing something jungkookie is good at because he is in love with our baby maknae. uwu boyfriends
from what i've seen, i'll say jungkook's video editing and photography seems nice. it's nothing special though, it's just aesthetically good. same for his drawing too. his older brother is an artist or something, maybe he learned from him.
i don't necessarily love or hate taehyung but armeries overhype him when he isn't very talented in singing, dancing, acting, photography, art, anything. i guess he is very popular because of that unique face and he does "cute" or "sexy" stuff to tease the audience often. maybe he could do modeling
ftfy. maybe two years ago, but he's been looking gross lately and it's all down hill from here.
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What the fuck happened to Sehun? He looks like he's 50
Maybe this is how he looks like without all that makeup
Jin is not good looking imo. He also does not carry himself very well. He seems like a awkward loser which would be fine if he weren’t trying to convince the world he was some handsome and talented superstar. Also his hands are so creepy looking and I hate his giant lips
I feel like so many people get considered attractive just because they fit the checklist of the korean beauty standards. For guys it’s even easier. Pale? Check. “Big” nose? Check. Skinny? Check. Eyes not really that big but bigger than the average korean? Check. Not really that tall but taller than the average korean? Check. Congratulations! You’re #1 worldwide handsome!!! Doesn’t matter how ugly you actually are as long as you check off the list.
The list is longer for women but it’s the same, all they have to do is get plastic surgery to fit the checklist and bam they are beautiful, no matter how alien and weird they look now.
And then so many actually attractive people get considered ugly because they dare to not check off every item on the list by having small eyes, tan skin, a flat nose, or some meat on their bones.
Anon from >>299097>>299173
Cool, it's your opinion. By Jin carrying himself well I didn't mean it as a performer. I was saying that I think Jin carries the visual role better than V, but not because I find one of them more attractive than other or whatever. Out of everyone in BTS, I think Jin is the one who fits that position. Jin has been keeping up with that persona since their debut, and they completely changed V's 4D persona to the art hoe persona. Trying to push him as the visual seems kinda awkward
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So Lisa went on a variety show called “Real men” and had a physical examination done. She’s actually as skelly as she says she is on her profile. My male friend who’s into BlackPink shared that with me. When I told him that Lisa’s current BMI would make her susceptible to health risks like losing your period and having your organs not functions properly, he seemed genuinely surprised. If BLINKs are this ignorant on average…
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I think it's safe to assume that Rose has a similar BMI
blinks on average are anachans, plain and simple, and those who aren’t are still ignorant to the vast health risks these girls are setting themselves up for. anyone i’ve seen who has expressed concern for lisa or rose have been shut down by dumbass fans who can’t see past their own delusions.
you can like an idol without thinking everything about them is amazing and perfect and showing concern for them is sure as hell not hate. if anything, it’s far more hateful and selfish to value your own glamorized delusions over your idols’ well-being.
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The photograph is from January 2018. There are other photos with these marks in his wrist around that time. Some people are saying they are photoshopped but these marks are visible here https://twitter.com/bts_bighit/status/947494924080988160
too, and he wore wristbands covering the marks up.
Does anyone know what happened? Maybe it was because of an accident, I hope it's not anything concerning and he's okay
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jungkook always has a shit ton of marks and scratches on him. anytime i see pics with his legs exposed he has a shit ton of bruises and scratches on them, and then there was that one injury on both sides of his arm. does he do something in his free time that warrants this? i can’t imagine falling while dancing and shit does all of that.
I remember ARMY went out of their way to discredit this pic and tell everyone it was Photoshop and that JK was fine, but if their offical Twitter has even more pics with the marks then I guess it's real.
Honestly I feel bad for him, his parents pretty much forced him to the idol life at like 13. You can tell that shit really effected him, even he realizes it to some extent by talking about how he stopped aging mentally at 15, which is typically a sign of some type of trauma.
On top of that he grew up having to be hyperconscious of how people viewed him, along with typical teenage shit, like wanting validation of your peers and to learn to be comfortable with who you are.
He openly stated that he couldn't wear the clothes he wants, get the piercings he wants or anything like that because he was scared the fans won't like it, so for awhile at least the way Korea's public saw definitely effected him.
I wouldn't be surprised if he actually was cutting himself at one point.
tl;dr Jungkook has shitty parents, and children shouldn't be put in the entertainment industry
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jesus christ if this is what yoona looks like in real life, i wonder how lisa and rose look.
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damn, i didn't realize kyuhyun from super junior had such bad skin. with how often koreans and kpop idols go to the dermatologists and stuff, i'm surprised it got this bad.
Suju is a pretty old group, I don't think skin care was as
big of a deal when they were popular.
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This is a recent picture of Rose and Jisoo. I wonder how they even perform like that. Their arms look like sticks.
What's up with kpop stans? Do they secretly hate their idols and want them to die?
-Female idol is a walking skeleton and goes to ER because fainted>She looks great the way she is!! She's fine, she just can't gain weight, stop telling her to get help, it's bodyshaming!!
-Idol has obvious self inflicted cuts on his wrists>He's fine!! It's just photoshop guys!!
Oh man. I’ve heard from BlackPink fans about how Jisoo’s the only member at a normal weight but that’s clearly not true.It’s just that she’s pear-shaped and carried more of her weight in her thighs than other places. Pics like these cleary show that she’s ana like the other members.>>299246>>299276
I feel bad for Jungkook more than the other members. Sure he’s the most popular and that comes with its perks, but he was basically robbed from a chance to grow up normally since he was a teen. It’s not like he can even leave BTS either unless he wants to lose what has become a huge part of his identity.
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Holy shit they must be, here is a picture from one of their most recent concerts, you can slightly see the scars under the makeup. Think what you want about bts, but this is genuinely concerning
I hope he's getting proper help with it
When I used to self harm I did it to my legs a lot, mostly hitting and some scratching but no razors to avoid durable marks.
How sad that there's a possibility he's been doing something similar.
I tried to look up more info on his scars and came across this:https://www.koreaboo.com/news/rumors-jungkook-self-harming-heres-why-its-bs/
>”Haters Claimed BTS Jungkook Was Cutting Himself Using This Picture, Here’s Why It’s Not True”>A.R.M.Y brought receipts to shut down the rumors.
This is actually kind of infuriating. Why does being concerned for someone’s potential self-harm injuries make you a hater? They’re making it seem like suffering from self-harm tendencies is controversial/bad. Do these fans really want their idols to be seen as perfect that badly?
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The fact that the marks are still there, excludes the point that it's a wrist hitting game, unless they're hitting his wrist with a knife
WJSN says they haven't been paid yet, three years after their debut. https://www.soompi.com/article/1232041wpp/wjsn-says-havent-paid-yet-optimistic
"WJSN, now over two years into their careers, revealed recently that they’ve yet to receive payments.
During a press conference on September 17 prior to the group’s comeback with their mini album “WJ PLEASE?” Luda elaborated on what she said about payments on MBC’s Dunia.
She said, “Because it’s a variety show, there’s definitely a part that was jokingly exaggerated. It is true that we haven’t been paid yet. Working since debut, there’s a lot that we’ve learned hands-on. I believe that there are so many things that are more important than [something like payment]. But as hard as we’ve worked on this album, we’re thinking we might be hearing some good news. We want to receive a lot of love from the fans.”
EXY added that “rather than chasing money, we’re working hard and moving up step by step, realizing how special each performance is. We believe that the day will come when we earn a lot and can take care of our parents. We’re not in a hurry.”"
So basically, be an idol, bust your ass for years between training and actual debut, and don't get a single penny in return.
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are they though? i mean it kinda looks like they could be, but it could also just be the wrist skin folding like it normally does. either theyre not there, or theyve faded a lot and are covered with makeup, i honestly cant tell looking at the recent pictures. but hmm, he has a wristband on the area in this recent concert photo too… and a wristband on the same area in a recent performance of anpanman…. worrying.>>299325
wtf? what do they mean they 'haven't been paid yet'? i mean even in south korea that can't be legal…?>>299328
they are so fucking clueless
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i really hope he is okay but why did he wear wristbands during that time if the marks weren't real and just photoshopped
Nah, they look like scars from full on cutting the skin. I used to self harm and for a year or two afterwards they looked like that until they faded to a color similar to my skin.
He did go through a period of always wearing a wrist band on one wrist, which would've covered fresh and healing cuts until they recovered enough to cover with makeup
Yeah Koreans literally open korean culture schools in SEA and other places with classes on things like “korean beauty”
I found out through reading some SEA armys twitters so idk how to find it now sorry
lmfao kpop fans need to come to an agreed upon lie when white knighting east asias bullshit eating standards. do asians eat in small portions every meal or is it suddenly normal that korean meals are "very big.">>299344>>299346>>299347
what is it with someone always coming in saying they don't feel bad when one person just so happens to slightly comment that they care? if the idol was 18 or older when they signed the contract, that's understandable, but when they're under 18? most of them don't realize the implications of the industry or what it's truly like or may have stage parents that pushed them into it very young. majority of these idols started as trainees as young as 9 or 10 and were clearly taken advantage of; do you not find that slightly disturbing? you say they can "always quit," but can they really? sure, maybe they could, but not without their entire reputation on the line and possibly being blackballed by their company. there's also the legal issues with exiting a contract early and also letting down your fellow team mates.
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What is it with kpop hair stylists and crimping? Every once-in-a-while I see some weird experimentation with crimping and it looks so fucking weird.
Lmao feeling bad for someone who go forced in to a shitty industry 13 by their parents (and are contract bound too, FYI)and as a result could possibly harming themselves is completely different than staning them.
And nobody said he was talented, the closest he got was "somewhat talented" which isn't the same. But mostly people were just saying he was better than V, which isn't so hard to do.
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can we go back to roasting the reptilian boy?
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Here He is, with his fellow kind.
i gave her the benefit of the doubt thinking she actually wanted to become an established english artist, but i see the preview and its literally SM shit
will it even be in english lyrics? is she just planning on releasing kpop shit here because if so, i have no reason to really bother supporting her even though i was kinda hype t first
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have some more nightmares anon, kek
i loved 9muses and after school
shame both groups were such a fail company wise they both had all the potential in the world but the constant member rotation is NEVER good idea
Is Somi gonna try going solo? Not familiar with The Black Label aside from people saying it's totally~ discrete from YGE because it's a subsidiary.
Also, I'm still hoping she left for the bizarre reason of JYP's cult connections for the drama.
please please please tell me this is photoshopped
it's the first pic in these threads that physically made me flinch, he literally looks demonic and the background makes it worse
i know it's to early to choose thread pic for the next one but. please.