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Rant about Kpop, it's creepy fandoms, and/or it's fucked up industry. Or just nitpick some idols.
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i feel somewhat bad for lisa, even though she is really cringey most of the time. she gets paid way less than her korean bandmates, probably experiences some sort of discrimination or racism, but still seems to work hard (like rosé and jisoo).
i wonder how long jennie is going to be in the group, she obviously has 0 work ethic. her leaving before their three year anniversary would be so milky. 2019, please deliver.
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imo i dont see how shes appealing at all
shes just not attractive
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Yg has been pushing for Ella a lot.Probably a future Jennie style favorite? Usually yg is on the secretive side concerning their pre-debut trainees so it's unclear to me what they're trying to make her (especially bc she's just ten..) I don't think any typical trainee would even be allotted so much time with blackpink
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Eh, it's still on the wide side, and looks kind of weird in 3/4 and side pictures, like it wasn't shaped very well. Still an improvement though
i heard they are called 6aces.
also>THOUGH HE'S CURRENTLY FOCUSED ON BTS, BANG SAID HE'S PREPARING TO INTRODUCE A NEW BOY BAND USING A 'SUCCESS FORMULA' THAT COULD BE REPLICATED WITH OTHER K-POP BANDS SEEKING TO BREAK INTO THE U.S. CHARTS. HE'S WEIGHING WHETHER TO TEAM UP WITH A MUSIC GIANT OR GO IT ALONE AND DIRECTLY STRIKE DEALS WITH U.S. MUSIC LABELS, RADIO PROMOTERS AND PUBLIC-RELATIONS FIRMS, BANG SAIDhttps://www.allkpop.com/article/2017/12/big-hit-entertainments-bang-si-hyuk-says-hes-preparing-a-new-boy-group
He's Latino and is also openly gay…Wouldn't be shocked if Korea used him as a prop to make fun of
And besides that, why promote in Korea?
armys: my boys are proud south korean poc artists and they do NOT need western attention okay? stop telling them to learn english, they don't care about breaking into america
meanwhile bang si-hyuk: >BANG SAID HE'S PREPARING TO INTRODUCE A NEW BOY BAND USING A 'SUCCESS FORMULA' THAT COULD BE REPLICATED WITH OTHER K-POP BANDS SEEKING TO BREAK INTO THE U.S. CHARTS.
what success formula lol, are you going to give them a fake social justice agenda too?
i remember seeing armys saying "i think bighit not working with another group is perfect, they need to focus on bts" and shit lol. you know they are going to be butthurt if this new group has actually talented members
There's this things with people being obsessed with the idea of being an idol, but not understanding how toxic the industry is at all.
Anyways, here's some nightmare fuel
tbh i feel like they are going to be bts 2.0 but a bit more talented since bighit can be pickier with their trainees now. they are going to market them exactly like bts and it's going to be boring
i know they had some scandal with a girl group but bighit is stupid for not taking female trainees anymore. the testosterone is overflowing in their company
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I wouldn't want to see this thing anymore. It won't be long till bighit turns their new boy group into the reptile species
eh, the one with the tragic stage name + the two who look twelve look acceptable. or maybe my standards for bigshit at this point are just low lmao>>330293
the writer of this article seems like a borderline illiterate 12yo yg/bp stan. do we have anything else on this or is it all rumors?
…that‘s literally it though. Some of you are so blinded by your autistic hatred you're just as delusional as their stans.
Plain, ~approachable-looking~ young boys you could watch on youtube and communicate with on twitter? With the power vacuum the disbandment of 1D left behind? BTS are this generations boyband whether we like it or not. >>330292
Holy shit, the victim complex you Lisa stans have is army-tier. She paid her way into korean idoldom, she has what she (and all of her SEA stans self-inserting) wanted. If anything she‘s lucky she’s in a 4 member group under YG, she would never get as much attention in some 9 member group under bumfuck entertainment. Take it back to instagram.
>>330510>This is a critical thread and its not just hating bts without a reason
No, I get that. It's just that I feel like most people here don't even bother reading the thread as seen by >>330502
for example and ARE in fact just blindly hating, and that's whatever, but don't pretend otherwise. We've had that topic discussed like three times in the last thread. >Some people always wonder why they are famous
And I think that this is a very naive question that can be answered with little research. I think most posters in this thread are actually asking "Why aren't my faves that popular?".
This thread has the potential to actually freely discuss controversial topics regarding kpop without triggering
a hoard of retarded stans but it ALWAYS ends up with stuff like "hehe jimin looks like a rat" and I don't see how that adds to an interesting discussion.
I guess I'm just expecting too much and this place is just a place for armies and blinks to shit on the members they don't like and then run back to twitter to gush about their faves LOL
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i can't believe armys ended the homophobia in south korea
I have been though lol And I never said I was against discussing those topics, I actually think they can be very interesting. Just not when it's the same thing over and over again ya feel>>330516
Where did I say it didn't?
What "success formula" lmao. BTS was a one-trick pony, it got so popular because of mere luck. They managed to gather so many obsessed stans when they weren't as popular, the big majority of them being ex beliebers/directioners looking for the next pretty boy group to latch on (if I remember it right, 1D was disbanded right in 2015, the year when BTS started suddenly gaining so many int-fans) and spam everywhere. Their stans basically did free advertising for them, everywhere. We know the rest of the story.
The new boyband will flop. >>330332
If you really feel the need to sperg over irrilevant shit, at least sage it.
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she's gonna scare off some people with that shit
nta but it wasn't that irrelevant, the OP linked it. kind of stupid tbh.
but yea, BTS is only successful because of twitter. if anything, rather than a success story, it's a cautionary tale about letting high school girls on the internet.
Nta but OP texts are usually copypasted, even on /pt/. Plus that thread was locked only recently, I didn't know that it was locked either. It's no big deal>>330563
Then it will be actual army time for BTS (because I don't think they're gonna actually make them skip it) and ratmys will latch on the next group. I wonder which one will it be… Maybe NCT?
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why would people present themselves like this on the internet i just don't get it
Maybe a possible new group, with a stable number of members and an artfaggy/woke concept (see LOONA)
Speaking of LOONA, is it true that they flopped? I'm kinda surprised. They had pretty faces, a "different" enough sound and visuals (in kpop) and were pushed a lot. What went wrong?
>>330533>Their stans basically did free advertising for them, everywhere
This is it. He doesn't have a success formula. Their success was literally due to their fans spamming every social media platform, every youtube video and every news article about a great tragedy with "Any armies here???? XDDD" until they recruited enough fangirls to spam US programs and radio stations until they agreed to host BTS. >>330568
I kind of doubt their fans that weren't already into kpop pre-BTS will stick with a kpop group, because I genuinely do think BTS' success is luck rather than a genuine interest in kpop. Many of the English speaking ones on twitter denounce kpop as a whole anyway and only like BTS because BTS is totes different and they're real artists!!!!!1! Ironically, my guess is that they'll fall back to whatever teenybopper group/soloist follows in the footsteps of JB/1D/5sos/21p.
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I think YG should replace Jennie and just have her model. Clearly she doesn't care about being a performer, she half asses all her BP lives now and puts minium effort for her solo performances. She's so cocky, I'm sure you all seen the Jennie lazy videos by now, she even laughs when she doesn't do the moves and stands there while everyone else dances infront of her WTF
I believe the bully accussations, the people she bullied said that Jennie was a spoiled brat with bad behavior. I feel bad for Rose, Jisoo and Lisa they are pretty much thrown to the back so that YG can shove Jennie down everyone's throat.
I believe the bully thing too, she did look like your average bullying Stacy with her clique>>330237>>330240>>330246
Plus I think that idol personas are based on their actual selves. Not always (see J-hope and how sometimes he seems done as hell with the cheerful persona they gave him) but most times, I think they are. Idols aren't good actors, you can see them slipping when their idol persona is different from who they are… and Jennie never slips, not even once.
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why is the majority of twice so unfortunate looking
what the fuck is wrong with chaeyoung lmao
jeongyeon has severe down syndrome face
theres literally nothing marketable about her now that she dropped the poor mans amber schtick
its always a possibility that anyone who gets famous fucked their way to that point, especially females, so yes
there have been rumors about lots of idols through the years and some all but confirmed, like g.na
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Black Pink fans are fuming over that Jennie is lazy video that went viral on YT
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They also realized that the "she's tired from preparing for her solo" excuse didn't work, so now they're saying she's depressed instead lel
This is so cringy, I understand screaming their names and shit but why would you screech a ship name lmao>>330590
It would be a shitstorm if she got replaced at this point but I agree that someone else who actually puts effort to improve deserves to be in her place
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I honestly can't watch a BP video without feeling slightly nauseous. They're so disgustingly skinny, especially Lisa, no idea how anybody can defend that.
There have been many celebrities with far healthier looking bodies who got bashed for promoting dangerous ideals to little girls, but they can walk around, looking like they jumped straight out of a sad teens pro ana thinspo folder and still get a pass…?
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Last one. Her legs don't look too bad here, but her arms are scarily bony
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If you saw this pic with no context you'd think it's Jennie's solo live but it's actually BP's live.. I bet Jennie is treating the other members like shit because of all the special treatment she's getting. The other members don't seem happy with how she's performing it honestly seems like they are trying their best to ignore it
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that hair looked atrocious, idk what the stylists were thinking. she probably has little real hair left due to the constant bleaching
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also whatever this was lmao
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In this picture she was 15. I have to admit she did glow up, but her body has never changed. She's actually been slowly gaining weight as she gets older. She has more muscle tone now than debut.
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Lizzy hurts me so bad man. She was such a dream in the Flashback promotions and owned the sexy concept. There was no reason to lose more weight she was already thin but looked healthy. I guess when you're in a group with girls with impossibly modelesque proportions like Nana, jooyeon and Jungah though, it can be easy to feel you need to keep losing more.
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When she was active in Orange Caramel, her legs were sticks, I felt like she was going to collapse
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i've never really followed sunmi and never knew she was so skelly, i tried watching her gashina performances but it was almost painful to watch her dance. the concept is supposed to be sexy but wtf is sexy about looking like this??
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People on this site say people look like they have downs/autism as an overused insult (half of the time it isn't even remotely true) but if I saw this picture and didn't know who she was I would actually think she had Downs syndrome
taeyeon annoys me more than tiffany with her >i look and act like an insufferable 10 year old even though im one of the oldest idols still in the industry thing she does in videos and photos
its all fake sm manipulation when they cultivated pretend "characters" for snsd to play as kids and now that they're adults, its cringe af when they still act like that
most of the girls have grown up so its time for her to do the same
looking through the comment field was funny and insightful but of course you’ll have shatmys jacking off bts in there too like they’re not the embodiment of overproduced garbage boy band music with shit personalities, barely any talent and sloppy work ethic now that they’ve gotten comfy.
can’t even enjoy critical content without armys howling about their victim and superiority complexes
Who are you responding to anon?
Where in my post did I mention anything about Lisa's body? I don't care about her size whether it's natural or not.
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Lisa is wearing Jennie's backup dancers clothes, Thai akgaes are fuming, as usual
Also, you can be skelly and not be anorexic. It just means she probably eats like a fucking toddler without any regard to her health. I’ve met people like this. “Oh I just eat so much and I’m soooo healthy guyz lol” when all they have for the entire day is a few fun sized chocolates and a tiny pack of chips. When they do eat a lot, its fried stuff like nuggets or half a box of processed mac and cheese. Its just as bad as fatties who claim they are healthy because they have a few veggies.
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>>330766>These girls train as much as athletes
They absolutely don't. How many idols have talked about their insane ”1 meal (and by meal they mean a sweet potatoe) a day” diets? You guys are absolutely delusional. Look at Pink, that's how someone who actually has to train like an athlete for her dumb twirling-in-the-air-shit looks like. ”Taking care of your looks” means restricting in Korea. Doesn't have to mean they have a fullblown ED but to say they eat well is a blatant lie. They'll all be fucked once they hit their 40s.
no way in hell would koreans ever accept a body type like that
the majority of diets are glossed over eating disorders
if you're not overweight or need a special diet due to a health condition, you probably have one
Anorexia also eats away at your brain as demonstrated by anachan right here>>330798
We understood you just fine and I don't think anyone thinks that ALL skinny idols have an ED. It's the autistic Lisa stan that keeps shitting up this thread and now the unpopular opinion one that cannot deal with people talking about other people's body and needs to log out.
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Lisa and Rose are still young enough to have natural fat on their faces, but mid-late 20s idols like Hyuna, Sunmi, Yoona need facial fillers, bra padding and hair extensions to not look alarmingly skeletal after years of restrictive dieting. Without artificially stuffed cheeks they would all be serving sunken, skull-like faces.
Jesus anon, stop being so defensive, you dont need to defend yourself here
what the fuck just close the tab and go
>>330813>I use reddit.
You sound like you still have an ED tbh, you should get help.
Plus, you have to be 18+ to post on this board.
and of course all the dumbasses on omonatheydidnt are screeching YASSSS queen anytime a post about this bitch comes through
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Why would anyone post this???
>>330577>Speaking of LOONA, is it true that they flopped? I'm kinda surprised. They had pretty faces, a "different" enough sound and visuals (in kpop) and were pushed a lot. What went wrong?
Nothing memorable, musically, visually, artistically or otherwise.
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it's so strange to me how shameless companies are about throwing away most of their groups after the members have reached a certain age. how stupid do you have to be to decide to become a kpop idol? you dedicate your entire youth to becoming a product who is constantly, closely monitored. if you're really lucky, you might be able to live off the money you made while being an idol, but most of them are going to fade into irrelevancy (if they manage to gain some popularity at all). not to mention all the awful sexual abuse they most likely are facing behind the scenes. i know that a few of them get into acting, and some male groups continue performing and making music even though they are 30+, but it seems like the average female kpop idol's career ends when she's in her mid/late 20s.
it's just so incredibly dumb in my opinion. in 5-10 years you are going to have a bunch of emotionally unstable and unemployed ex-idols in their early 30s with melting faces due to botched jaw reductions looking for something to do with their lives.
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I wish you spoiler’d that pic. Yuta is something out of a junji ito horror manga.
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I wish I understood korean's obsession with Han Gain
Like yeah she's got a tall nose and koreans like that, but do other celebrities
Idk it just looks like a normal nose to me, idgi
If any anon can elaborate what's so amazing about her nose in particular, I'd very much appreciate it, I'm genuinely curious
Besides, her cheeks and chin are huge and she only looks good on pictures, I've always asked myself why didn't koreans pressure her onto cutting down her cheekbones and jawline. Quite kind coming from them
but so do other celebrities*
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That's hilarious. The other fancams from wich they used to make this compilation are still up so people will still see her shitty attitude.
what is yg and the fans gonna do now? delete every video and fancam of every blackpink performance?lol
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This isn't the K-drama thread, plus you sound a bit off
>If any anon can elaborate what's so amazing about her nose in particular, I'd very much appreciate it, I'm genuinely curious
I don't know her but she looks normal to me. The things you mentioned about her having huge cheeks and chin means she's almost all natural? Good for her.
I'm not against criticism but it's like you're just making something up to ridicule her or something. Would have been different if you're talking about LE, Namjoo, Bom, and the likes.
that’s what made those vids a breath of fresh air though. the person behind the one with 2mil views admitted to being a blink and the comment section was filled with ppl who seemed to genuinely like her but still recognized her laziness and wanted her to improve.
of course the infantile brainlets have to ruin everything because muh infallible qweens
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Junji Ito called, he wants Korean surgeons to stop plagiarizing his characters >>330971
Copyright? Since when are fancams and performances recorded by FANS owned and copyrighted by YG?
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Has anyone ever chekced the sasaeng tag on instagram?
These bitches are out there not only selling contact infos, but their faves passports too.
How crazy can they be
a friend of mine who used to be an army and speaks chinese found an account on weibo that had an obscene amount of data on jungkook, probably not contact info but there were photos of him going somewhere taken from some buildings and other creepy shit. it was a while ago and idk why it was put there for free, you probably need to dig deep to find things like that. i can't imagine what kind of info these fans manage to get, given some of them get into telephone companies and such or are wealthy and have connections.
i think i heard about sasaengs working in telephone companies from this documentary. how does everybody get info about airport flights all the time anyway? some of them probably work in the airports or buy information from the staff
1. too many members
2. all members are soloists that don't cohere as a group
3. too much s. korea pandering with "hi high" when they should be trying to win over their international fanbase
oh boy thats TOTALLY a smart thing to do
attack the fancammers that spend millions of dollars to follow and promote your dumbass idols and even help idols that would have to suck hundreds of old men sponsors cocks go viral from videos of them thrusting their cunts into the audience instead!
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yg blocking videos that expose jennie's laziness is such a pathetic, yet milky, move. has he not heard about the streisand effect? oh, the salt he has created by trying to protect his ~princess~
why are so many kpop agencies awful at doing their job? gfriend is like, the total opposite of blackpink:
>didn't get anything handed to them
>seem to work hard
>are good at live performances
>all of the members seem to be equally hard-working
so you think they'd be a solid group, right? tragically.. most, if not all, of them have awful botched surgery (i guess their small agency couldn't afford a proper surgeon). looking at them performing is hard, the uncanny valley vibes are too strong. wtf was their agency thinking, like you finally find a group of somewhat talented individuals.. but you destroy most of them with botched surgery. the members look so weird together; sowon looks like slenderman's long lost niece and umji looks like she has an extra chromosome..
how hard is it to create a decent group, with members who aren't lazy or look like junji ito caricatures?
gfriend were briefly looking like they could be the head girl group of the new generation before things went bland. started off with snsd plagiarism accusations, but at least they backed it up by being as energetic as snsd were when they debuted. yuju is one of the better new gen vocalists and a couple of the others seem competent enough. me gustas tu and rough were hits, navillera did well, and then they switched it up with fingertip and it sold about half as much as navillera. twice blew up with cheer up, tt and knock knock becoming hits between navillera and fingertip and that really didn't help.
their dull music and increasingly bad plastic surgery killed off any chance at getting above twice. they were one of the only newer groups i was genuinely interested in so it sucks that they've been completely stagnant for about 2 years now, i don't know how they could really get back to their peak
in the context of kpop? yes. i know that sowon can't really help her body type/body proportions, and that saying rude things about umji's appearance is.. well, rude. but they just look so incredibly weird standing next to each other. without shaky and slightly nauseating music show camera work they really do look strange, like.. adding them in the same group seems like such a weird choice.
and i believe that the members who have had work done (like sinb and eunha) looked much better before their horrific surgery. almost any girl can look cute with the right styling and makeup (or the right plastic surgeons i guess), their surgeries were not needed. it's ironic that their appearance is the only thing they "lack" due to their agency being idiots.
it's not that most of the gfriend members don't look pretty.. they look very freaky.
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I doubt YG himself saw lazy Jennie videos and had them blocked, probably somebody from pr department quickly intervened. I do find it hilarious that the chosen one of her group, like GD, CL, BI before her, turned out to be shittiest live performer YG has ever produced.
In kpop? They probably use that quote from The Neon Demon. "Beauty is not everything… beauty is the only thing">>331170
The funniest thing is that the copyright strike was manual, so we have no doubt that they saw the videos, it wasn't an automated strike. Pr department? Perhaps, but I think that YG himself must have seen the videos. There are other "negative" videos about Jennie that are still up and have been for a long time… yet the second someone gathers proof of Jennie getting objectively lazier, it gets a copyright strike? Hmmmmmm
sorry this >>331189
was meant for >>331158
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i was looking at some random new mvs and there is someone with a mullet in almost every boy group lol why did this become a trend now
Hi High was a stupid move for a debut. You have an "alternative K-Pop" group with artsy videos and all this other shit and open with a cutesy girl group concept?
Hell Favorite would've been a better choice, and that musice video was almost just a choreo vid.
But I'm not sure if the group is even about moving numbers or some CEO's pet project. When it's fairly known that the K-Pop industry is hostile to outsiders like Blockberry Creative.
speaking of parents not being involved in their children's lives and letting them ruin their life by selling their soul to a kpop company, how do you guys feel about somi's stage dad? the optimist in me believes that his stereotypical ~western~ macho appearance intimidates creeps and makes them stay far away from his underage daughter. the realist in me just feels bad for somi, i don't understand how a father can be okay with his young daughter being in such a toxic industry. not to mention the numerous ways somi has been sexualized since her early teens.
what kind of dad is comfortable with their 14 year old daughter dancing in tight, revealing clothes and singing about asses in order to appeal to men much older than her? i find so many of the sixteen performances disturbing and inappropriate.
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I've never understood her style tbh
i wish they just stopped taking trainees under the age of 18*>>331350
why the fuck did they make a 14 year old girl sing a song like this and how is his father okay with it?i feel bad for somi and all the idols who got into the industry while they were underage. minors being worked in these schedules, going through extreme diets, getting plastic surgery, being sexualized to appeal to creepy adults is just disgusting
Isn't he the same dude who is now trying to push Somi's little sister into becoming an idol too? He also said something like "She's even better than Somi"… narc parents.>>331356
She was live on insta about two hours ago, when I opened it there were the both of them looking like drug addicts. I don't know if this is a bad attempt at grunge, but whatever it is, it's not working
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lots of people say about the women in kpop "oh they are being exploited!" when its just the same as the guys.
Don't forget how many of them usually get recruited from instagram. Thats what they want, fame fame fame. It's doesn't matter where you go, people are willing to do whatever it takes to be a somebody.
Why don't they simply settle down? Get a normal job and life? Instead of training since they are 14 and living on noodles? The addiction to fame.
Why does IU still play up the smol girl routine even though when she started she was in a dress playing a guitar? She wants to be popular.
she's an okay singer but idk how to feel about her. i've seen some discussions about how "iu is not an idol, she's an artist!! she writes her own songs!!" and it's like.. she is marketed just like any other girl group member, nothing different.
i also like how k-pop fans exaggerate idols who write their own lyrics. songwriting is a thing that should be praised when it's actually done well. you see fans praising k-pop rappers who write their own verses when the lyrics they write are basic as fuck
they are just told to sing what to sing, they do the dance they are told to do, they are 13, they don't really think about it very much.
Not that anyone would guess shes 13 from her height, she already has the same build as the 22 year old members.
She might lose job opportunities in the future if she keeps growing.
How many 6 foot 1 Korean female idols are there?
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You can't tell me this is an actual human
slightly ot but I really think it's
weird how in SK sexy adult (female) idols are very much looked down upon while child idols with a sexy concept are somewhat applauded? I feel like Koreans are thought of by others and themselves as being sexually conservative (unlike those stereotypically slutty westerners) and yet nobody will think twice about a child idol told to do something sexy
I really hate when people declare MENTAL ILLNESS! DEPRESSION!! ANXIETY! with absolutely no proof. It gets used as an excuse for poor behavior so often, it becomes patronising and demeans people with actual struggles.
But stans gonna stan.
She used to at least try in the past. So somethings changed, maybe shes YG's mistress, thats the only way she could get away with being filmed acting like a lazy ass and not only have the other girls virtually ignore it, and YG not chew her the fuck out, but issue takedowns of the lazy vids.
She knows she doesn't have to try because she knows theres not going to be consequences for her.
wasnt tia's dad the same way, letting her perform songs where she literally humped a chair on stage and then went to her blogs and posted about how uWu christian and jesus loving she was?
i wonder if theres a connection in the father being white and the mom being korean, considering a lot of white men who bed asian women are creepy weirdos in the first place
i think u are onto something. you know people who fetishize mixed babies? there are hundreds of parents who make ig pages for their mixed children and try to promote them as models, basically exposing them to a bunch of strangers on the internet while living through them/their fame. somi's dad (probably her mom too tbh) is most likely one of them, but on steroids or something? the way he is preparing her little sister for the entertainment industry is so creepy.
a lot of mixed race children struggle with their identity (just take a look at r/hapas lol). i don't think somi's narc stage dad or her physically abusive mom are going to help her if she were to face such issues.
are any of you familiar with the tumblr www.black-kpop-fans.tumblr.com? i used to read it for laughs a few years ago, and i remember someone on that blog going on and on about somi having white privilege. which is rather ridiculous, as she was literally bullied for her mixed heritage. my point is that she has struggled with numerous things (racism, her mom hitting her with a fucking pan, old men thirsting after her ++). i wonder if it's going to lead her to snap when she's in her early 20s or something.
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holy shit what happened to yooa from oh my girl??? please god tell me these are just crappy pictures
Shouldn't Hyuna still have a stylist or something? I'm sure she's with another company now, and even if she's not she could still afford a stylist.>>331726
I'll never get why people edit idols skin so light. Her face and neck are literally the same color as the background.
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She's been looking really tight and puffy lately (probably fillers). They went overboard with overlining her lips and she's pouting too much, too. I get it because she just got a lipstick CF, but man, a little goes a long way.
Also I think her double lid surgery a year or two ago looks strange. >>331737
Yooa is naturally darker and visibly so next to the palest member of her group, so of course their stylist will never match her face makeup to her actual skin color because ~muh pale skin.
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sorry kpopfags i'm not into kpop, but are you guys telling me this is the same person as pic related? how do you even get surgery to look so drastically different? this shit is crazy
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She really let herself go compared to Bubble Pop era.
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The eyelid surgery really did a number. Also they fuck around with her makeup (and likely fillers) to her detriment. Pic related is from earlier this year, where she still looks like herself.>>331775
Cause Koreans will nitpick tan skin 99% of the time. A lot of them bitch about AOA Seolhyun being tan, calling her SEA derogatorily, although she's considered one of the top "visuals" of her generation.
she looks like sulli here is she starting her baby prostitute era?>>331776
amazing what a stylist can do eh?
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Seolhyun is not even tan, she is just normal. Tan people are way darker than her, i'm tanned myself. (i know there's some lightning in Seolhyun's picture, but still)
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i remember how mean people were to her when she was on that survival show or whatever because she was ~dark and ugly~ without makeup
that was around the time netizens started hating AOA for every little thing though
I always thought something was weird about Hyuna, if you've seen her interviews, its like shes a robot, as if she'd just go to an awards show naked unless someone told her to wear clothes.
And everytime someone asks her about songs and stuff she just blankly responses with "Well it's the team of people around me that handle that"
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How can they shoop so much yet not fix her crusty butthole lips?>>331789>>331796
SK's bone to pick with tan skin really is bizarre. None of the idols in pic related except for the first dude can even be considered tan.
it still doesn’t make sense for yg to literally let her ruin his company’s image just because he’s sleeping with her. blackpink’s his main cash cow right now and her sloppiness is fucking up their image. he has enough money to buy anyone he wants, it makes no sense he’d let one of his artists ruin the image of his most relevant group + the company at large. not to mention the other girls are prettier than her anyway.
the more logical reason would be that her parents are paying her way out of everything but that still doesn’t make sense at this point because this way she’s costing him a shit ton of money in the long run.
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choose your fighter
If you're not pale you're tan
If you're not skinny you're fat
If you don't look like a teenager you're a crusty ajumma
ratmys are obsessed with making everything about bts whether it’s other idols’ drama or completely unrelated shit; they were sperging about how hard the bts members work in the comment section of that viral lazy jennie video
i guess in this case they felt victimized because blinks have made fun of jimin’s horrific singing before but their lack of self-awareness is still astounding
I never saw someone bring this group up even tho they are quite mess.
But probably because they flop so hard.
Flopping for 6 years already. Last album sold around 1k and they keep having lineup changes every comeback. One member got plastic surgeries to look like V and copied his photos. Well just search 24k sungoh and you will see what I mean. They had also quite lot of controversies surrounding copying groups. ( https://pann-choa.blogspot.com/2016/10/enter-talk-24k-who-were-accused-of.html
Also their recent comeback Bonnie and Clyde.. I have zero clue if I just watched way too much choreo videos from SM groups but their choreo looked so similar to NCT 2018 empathy choreographies.
Like I know they are literally 100% self producing group because their company couldnt even afford what was the position (Record producer? Im not sure but I remember them saying they dont have anybody who would check their music before release)
And when I asked their fan about the choreography issue she just went "No Jeonguk(member which makes choreographies) is just inspired by NCT because he likes them)"
Like there is difference between inspiration and copying parts of choreo
Well I guess he could but in this case their debut era and the era after didnt really do him justice because to me he started to look similar to V during 2015 but I suck at recognizing stuff like this so my opinion in this is kinda invalid.
But yeah might be just ratmys going crazy again for nothing.
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jenninists are running out of excuses kek
Sad, I liked the concept in the promo pictures. That's the thing, I've tried to get into Red Velvet many times… but their songs all sound the same to me, the sound is "eh" and so non-catchy. The only song from them I can remember is Red Flavor, that's it.
Scratching my head over how tf did they get so popular and relevant
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nta but army have also been accusing a japanese actor of "trying" to look like taehyung. it's fucking hilarious because he's never had any ps, he's been in the industry since 2011 and that's just his face. he probably doesn't even know who bts are.
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Don't forget her dad is rumored to be a hospital owner. Maybe she could get a health check at his workplace.
Although, it has crossed my mind Jennie is on something. Nothing illegal, not a YG-pharmacy joke. Maybe Xanax or Klonopin, for anxiety, courtesy of hospital dad. There are moments during live performances where she looks "out of it", some vlives she seems drowsy and talks really slow.
Having once been in Kpop, there's a weird… obsession (that's really too strong a word but can't think of smth else that fits) with Halloween lol.
A few examples of Halloween-esque songs/MV's that came out not in October are BTOB's Thriller (Sept 2013), Lee Junghyun's V (June 2013), Narsha's Bbi Rri Bba Bba (March 2011). I'm sure there's loads more but my knowledge is dated and I can't think of more recent ones off the top of my head.
That Red Velvet song is more Halloweeny than most I've seen though, with all that orange and obvious Halloween decorations looking set.
How do ice cream cake, rookie and bad boy even sound or look alike?
This song is pretty bad though. I don‘t know who SM is trying to appeal to tbh They need to debut a new girlgroup, with the death of SNSD and f(x) they only have RV and I‘m not sure if they have the charisma or energy to be the sole female earners for SM. They‘ve lost their freshness.
I don't even remember what those sound like and their newest song has already begun to fade even though I've listened to it a couple times. I vaguely remember So Good bc I enjoyed the music video and the sound was more up my alley.
I was never really invested in them though, so it's likely more because I didn't care to commit them to memory. So I'll admit to them probably not sounding or looking like the same churned out concept every time, but they have this tumblr edits-looking aesthetic feel to them that doesn't really stick in my memory very well.
Red velvet's discography is really varied though? I can't think of 2 songs that even sound alike. Whoever picks their title tracks is tone deaf. >>332030
Like this anon said, i have no idea who they're trying to appeal to. SM has this thing where they refuse to follow trends with their groups so it's like a hit or miss coinflip every comeback
That's the point I was making though, I never got invested in them enough to actually look up stuff beyond their title tracks and the MV's. If their main tracks weren't hooking me, I didn't see any reason I should waste my time looking. It didn't help that they debuted around the time when my interest in Kpop was waning so I wasn't up for putting in more effort to see if a group was good.
If you want to recommend me some of their better songs, I'll take them.
With the styling I was expecting ifan-bait but the song.. my god. I also 100% think this was for halloween but got pushed back for whatever reason. It‘s so obvious lo>>332039
Not that anon but seeing how RV are exo‘s female equivalent imo they shine on rnb-influenced songs. The Red album for a more poppy and perfect velvet album for a bit more mature sound. There‘s decent stuff on there.
one of the funniest comments i've seen about rv was on asianjunkie (i think, maybe reddit) from someone talking about how their concepts were legitimately so scary, and how something like peekaboo is totally unique because like, they kill people in the video!! rv's "scary" concepts to me come off as fun, campy 70s style B movies, i don't know how far up irene's ass you'd have to be to think they're so goth and unique and not just slapping a few halloween decorations on some dull r&b or electro pop songs. and their dead eyed stares never actually fit what they're doing, it's just off putting.
seeing fans cream themselves over concepts is so repetitive. tear away cheerleader outfits, school uniforms, military inspired outfits etc and the song has no concept, it's just a song - and that's fine, you don't need to try to pin a theme to every bubblegum pop song. you see fans of groups like snsd saying "they're so varied, they did so many concepts!" but it's only rare ones like hoot that really have a theme as a song that couldn't be detached from the styling. you could pretty easily swap the 'concepts' of gee and oh, or you think and mr mr and it wouldn't feel too out of place. they have loads of different song styles, yeah, but being able to wear a nurses outfit and leather trousers in the same concert isn't what makes an artist varied.
it's cool that kpop is usually more out there with styling and mv choices, i do like when an album has a cool, cohesive theme, but usually the song itself isn't whatever concept they say it is. it's cringy when a group is asked to talk about their new song and all the can say is "we did a beach concept this time!" and can't tell you anything about the song itself.
Yeah, I agree with that. It's probably why I remember So Good.>>332044
Thanks both of you for the recommendations, I'll have a listen when I'm not at work.
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red velvet stans are delusional
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literally the same person
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i feel like jyp is the only big company who does "concepts" somewhat successfully. from a marketing perspective, twice's music videos containing tv and movie tropes is clever. it's not like i'm a fan of twice (although i kinda respect sana for realizing early on that adapting the "i'm just a cute and dumb girl tihi!" schtick would benefit her), the members are extremely bland and some of their songs are unlistenable. red velvet though, i honestly don't understand who their fans are. twice has a huge male fandom, but afaik that's not the case for rv? their songs are so awful.. who wants to hear high pitched screams in the songs they listen to? who came up with this garbage? everything about this concept is so sloppy and corny.
what i don't get though, is how this stuff even matters in the big picture. why is having multiple concepts good? it's not like the members decide any of this, everything is manufactured by a team of professionals. the idols just have to wear different clothes and change up their facial expressions and body language.
one thing red velvet and twice have in common is the awful watered out "rapping" in their songs. i'm pretty sure the rap parts prevent the songs from gaining mainstream fame? huge groups like snsd and kara never had these cringey parts in their hit songs.
she's probably brainwashed by all the critics though, that's why celebrities (and regular people too) end up going under the knife a lot of times.
They get criticized for their looks over and over so, even if they didn't see a problem with their appearance in the first place, they'll resort to surgery to fix those "issues" and fit into the public's ideal. Which is funny because there's a huge stigma with ps in sk even though society basically forces you to get something done.
Although, even if I don't she's pretty, I hope she's genuinely happy with herself now, specially with her past weight issues and so. But that's something I hope for everybody.
I don't think groups with majority female fan bases are necessarily a bad thing. Female fans are loyal and will buy your shit even when you're old and washed up, snsd as an example. Can't image any twice fanboys caring about the group when they hit their late twenties, and by then jyp will have already shitted out 2 girl groups in their place.
Concepts matters for some because even kpop fans can get tired of the same shit. Twice went through it when international fans kept complaining how most of their title tracks and music videos look and sound the same, and they don't really have any range. Same with blackpink. Generic teddy pop track with a buildup and a drop, every single song. I think 'concepts' just means something, new, different, exciting, even if it's manufactured. Twice even broke out of their formula a little bit with yes or yes and dance the night away, and got mostly positive responses
I agree with you though this comeback is trash. Red velvet is extremely hit or miss . SM is notorious for not giving a fuck and picking the most un-public friendly songs to promote, i legit can't understand it. They could easily make a bts 2.0 or a new snsd if they wanted, and actually compete with the top groups but no. Shit's weird.>>332117
I've observed the same behavior in delusional neckbeards who drool over models/actresses who had PS and deny it to their deathbed as if getting PS is a mortal sin or something.
They probably self-insert in their "faves" (or see them as ideal partners) and associate them with ideals of perfection as an escapism method. They want to believe that these people are naturally stunning, talented in everything, and that plastic surgery is either too mundane or "for the weak", so they see any person pointing out that no, these idols are people like us, human and imperfect, as a personal attack.
I'm sorry for Wendy, her natural face was perfectly fine. She had an endearing, friendly vibe. Now she's a botched version of herself.
I'm not even a RV fan but I hope they don't fucking touch Seulgi.
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this is horrifying. Her jaw is GONE @-@
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I have seen a lot of botched surgeries but this one actually creeped me out, she looks like those "uncanny valley" robots, holy shit
I think the stupid amount of members is a big factor that caused them to flop.
Half of the reason the female audience is watching girl groups is for their wardrobe & yet Loona STILL haven't had any good or unique outfits. On a single one of the girls for a single damn performance. I mean, it's not like they're dressed badly
, it's just the most basic thing they could wear.
I assume that their company ran through their budget on other, unnecessary extravagances (weren't they flying each girl to a new country for each solo for a while?) and as a result they neglected one of the most basic ways that idols pull in fans. Wardrobe is expensive as hell, and it looks like they didn't plan enough $$ for it.
Yeah, it's great having a lot of pretty girls in a group, but when they're all wearing the exact same school uniform for every single performance, with some minor variations in colour, wtf would I watch for? Their music isn't good enough to carry them & their choreo is beyond basic. You can barely even tell who's who. It's the definition of generic kpop.
Loona stans are delulu
Oh god, that pic is horrifying.
I've never understood people who say Eunha is a visual in Gfriend. I just don't see it in any way. Her cheeks are so huge & bloated, and all of her features are asymmetrical. She's got a bit of that mentally slow look to her as well.
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Wendy really out here looking like a damn tim burton character lmfao
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that looks HORRIBLE
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nah, apparently she's just lonely now
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i'm not into ariana's music but yeah, i'm sure it has to do with youtube's xenophobia and not bts getting views from the same fans watching over and over again while ariana gets views from all kinds of people
lol i hope she passes their record as well. everything about idol was awful, bad song, bad mv. look what you made me do wasn't a good song either but at least it had a good video>"b-but idol was bad for sarcasm purposes!!"
then it was some primary school level sarcasm
>>332367>bts in a fake beef with someone
Jimin and Jeongyeon
BTS and iKON
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she literally looks like a barbie doll
this is uncanny as hell
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Is he human? Or is he an egg?
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I wish Hwasa would start to wear a makeup style that fits her features
I get she wants to go for a bold kind of style but she's not doing it right… something about it looks so off>>332373
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she looks a lot better with dark hair and a bold lip. the look she has rn gives me crusty hyuna vibes minus the ghoulish skin
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why are their red carpet outfits always all over the place
i find this so ironic bc they always screech about loving the idols unconditionally just for /them/ and ~totes not being superficial~ but the second someone suggests an idol got ps all hell breaks loose. if they truly liked the idols regardless of their looks they wouldn’t care if they had plastic surgery. it’s so transparent how ridiculously shallow they are while claiming they’re ~totes accepting and don’t care if an idol they don’t stan had ps~.>it’s okay if idols have plastic surgery!! they’re still the same and we should love them all natural or not uwuwuwuwu>YOU SAID UNNIE HAD A NOSEJOB HOW DARE U DIE HATURRRR>WELL MY OPPARS ARE NATURAL THEM >>>>> YOUR PLASTIC FAVES
this all comes out of the same fan constantly, i wish i was kidding.
I'm not surprised about song of the year though idk about songwriter. I don't know korean so I can't judge either way. it's surprising seeing so many people congratulating them. just two weeks ago I thought everyone hated them again. >>332413
bts got 7 awards iirc. artist of the year and album of the year are the biggest they got. blackpink got 2.
lmfao I was just about to reply "wait for the fancams to expose them".
I don't see how the backup dancers added anything to the performance tbh..
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wtf mobile deletes the pic everytime
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"hmm, we are getting criticized for sucking the west off and it's the truth.."
"how can we justify ourselves to the "my boys are proud poc artists!! they don't need western attention!!" armys?"
"i have an idea."
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It’s already happening. I’m not a fan of Ari but she deserved the record, I don’t like the song but her video was at least well put together.
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huh, when i went on twt to search for ari all i saw of bts fans was them hyping her up. i’m so used to them being obnoxious assholes, feels odd to see them act semi-humble (though tbf i wasn’t looking very hard).
did you mean to link a different image?
even though I don't like Jennie, armys have gone far past the point of annoying about analyzing fancams to make sure every female idol is properly bowing for bts at award shows.
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>it’s all the clothes’ and stylists’ fault she can’t dance they’re too uncomfortable all the other idols wear super comfy clothes for every one of their 63726272 comebacks a year jennie kim is the only real victim in all of this
i don’t dislike her but the excuses from jenninists are getting more and more pathetic
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How did this bitch get into a group? Her face is honestly so creepy looking.
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Is this actually what Chuu from Loona looks like or did someone fuck with her? I've literally only seen her in the teaser photos before and I'm horrified
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Her eyes seem consistently fucked up though. She almost makes JooE look good by comparison.
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Lmaooo these are typical korean ulzzang selfie. You'd be a fool to believe she didn't edit the fuck out of those. Here's a candid. She's pretty average but not as bad as JooE.
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Atleast the Loona girls don't look as bad as momoland. All their members look botched in some way. My favourite example is Daisy.
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You picked a very flattering picture, anon.
This is more like it
her eyes are kinda close together but shes not horrible
jiyeon has that too and she grew up to look really nice even with people calling her cyclops for years including IU lol
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For me the most unfortunate looking female idol is LE from EXID, with Bomi from A-Pink as a runner up.
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Bomi? I think you meant to say Namjoo
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Namjoo's nose job is a disaster but I thought she looked OK before. No great beauty, but cute enough.
Bomi, on the other hand…
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sunny is still by far the ugliest idol
she was always uglier that hyoyeon idk why hyoyeon was forced to be the ~ugly~ member when it was clearly just shitty styling and after the nose job she looked better than many other idols
sunny however has always looked like a fucking muppet and the surgery made it even worse
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That's gotta be a hard disagree from me. i always found sunny pretty cute in snsd's earlier days, and she was one of the most popular members for a reason. Hyoyeon was alright too but it was her shitty blonde hair that ruined her looks imo
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wasn’t she related to the sm chairman or whatever? that would explain why they’d try to protect her from that image and i guess hyoyeon became the human shield. they howling about how hyoyeon didn’t look ~korean~ newsflash: she didn’t look like the korean beauty ideal. the women these critics drool over as the most gorgeous korean women (ie yoona and jessica) tend to resemble whites if anything.
for me it’s dahyun from twice. she seems sweet, i don’t hate her, but she’s by far the most unfortunate-looking female idol aside from maybe daisy >>333251
and awful styling hyoyeon. >>333256
looks horrific but more in a botched plastic surgery monster kind of way wherein dahyun looks naturally unfortunate, at least compared to other female idols.
maybe i wouldn’t have noticed her if onces didn’t howl about twice’s visuals everywhere despite most of them looking average at best.
I would say of all the SNSD members, Taeyeon used to have the most typically Korean features. To be fair, she was always relatively popular and seen as cute.
She doesn't really look Korean (or cute) anymore after all that PS though.
yuri looked really korean too to me but americanized
she reminded me of one of those pretty popular korean art students that all the boys liked in american high schools haha
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Agreed. I never understood her obsession with aegyo shit and the reaction of fans.
If someone like joy or sana does it, it makes more sense because they are cute and have that childlike ~annoyingly cute~ thing going for them but sunny was so ugly and it was obvious in their other variety that it wasnt even her personality.
She only brought it out for these dumb talent shows and music videos but sones ate that shit up.
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I think Dahyun is ugly in a cute way. She's lucky the stylists are so kind to her (not with that purple hair tho). Koreans like her for her paleness and personality, so she has that going for her.
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glad to hear they like her for her personality, female idols are always judged the harshest so it’s refreshing to hear kfans appreciating a female idol beyond looks. and i agree, she really is ugly in a cute way. her smile actually reaches her eyes.
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enjoy your ban, twerp
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I feel more shocked that there are people who don't acknowledge that Sooyoung was and is SNSD's prettiest member. The ugliest one is Taeyeon lol.
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Samefag but that's her now. Seohyun is pretty as well but she looks kinda fake and mean
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Speaking of unfortunate looking, Hyuna is definitely up there. I can't believe to upload this to her own instagram.
shes ok but i think its heavily a styling thing for her
hit or miss
i legitimately think she was the most attractive member during The Boys era and ever since she, yuri, hyoyeon, and seohyun are the only ones that i think id even consider pretty at all
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I agree. Her strawberry blonde hair in the Party era was dreadful lol. I'm curious do you think Tiffany is ugly?
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What kills me about Hyuna is people claiming its JUST a lack of having a stylist thats making her ugly. But like..logically if thats the case, then shes just ugly alltogether lol. She always has been it was just the stylist making her look presentable for a few eras. She was Ariana Grande'ing it up with the fake tan and that was the only thing that made her look good for a few years and then she was back to the druggy look.>>333353
Alright, which one of you cowtipped on Allkpop or twitter?
samefagging to say i dont find her ugly at all, i just no longer look at her and say "wow shes really pretty" like i did before
the plastic surgery gave her almost a puffy appearance and thats what makes it not so nice
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She looks old now…
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yep she should have let herself age gracefully its really a shame because she was so pretty before
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It's her hairstyle that makes her look older than she is. Yesterday she released a new song and pic related was the cover and she looks stunning with the extensions. Her short bob is just ugly lol.
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i genuinely found her pretty during the red era, did she have fillers back then? her face has changed so much, i can't even tell what she did with it
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Lately I've seen some people call Seulgi ''handsome''. It must be the biggest back handed compliment I've ever heard. I don't understand why they make her look so manly.
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I am rather shocked that anyone find Seohyun pretty. Before surgery she looked the worst in SNSD. After surgery she looked like an auntie in her 40s. For me she is the defintion of a horse face. She could be the sister of Daisy >>333251>>333349
she looks like Michael Jackson
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I think all of them would look cringy if dressed as tomboys. It worked on Amber because she was effortlessly like that. You can tell when they hate having the tomboy label attached to them like that girl from twice lol
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Samefag pic related
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Leave my autistic eskimo princess alone!111!
Lol but I agree the surgery did her no favors. Im pretty sure she got those ears tucked IMMEDIATELY after debut too. They never stuck out that far after the first two videos or so as far as i know.
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i really do feel that seulgi has become the new amber
i see comments like “red velvet and reveluvs don’t need men, we have seulgi”, fangirls calling her daddy, in fanfiction she’s often portrayed as futa where it’s clear the author is using the other members slash love interests as self inserts… she’s the new oppa/“hubby” for girl group stans. she does have masculine/androgynous features and it’s possible the stylists have been trying to accentuate that in order to evoke the whole girl crush thing (and if so they’ve really succeeded).
i personally don’t mind as i love androgyny and to me she’s an interesting mix of girly and masculine but i can see how others may not like it as much and the masculinization from the fans’ end can get quite extreme.
>Idk why they didn’t try and push that imagine onto joy and take advantage of Seulgi’s body as the sexy one
because joy has a feminine face with soft features while seulgi’s features are harder and more masculine. she’s known for her abs and as we’ve seen again and again in kpop (and south korea i general it seems) muscles on women are generally seen as very masculine.
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they're all wearing silver & black but jisoo has a red top on. i wonder if yg picked a new favorite lol
If you watch Sunny’s appearances on Knowing Bros, a Korean variety show, you’ll see that she was faking the whole cute thing. It makes sense, but it shows you how much fans love fake shit. I forgot, but was it Sunny or Yoona that got more famous for the aegyo “confession” song?
Semi-related… but speaking from my experiences as an ex-Kpop addict, the fakeness and superficiality helps people cope with their shitty lives. It did with me.
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This girl is the ugliest one from Izone. I don't get how she won instead of Yiren.
To make it really quick… I hate using this word, but Kpop can be problematic
. It’s a very sexist, colorist, super image driven to the point that idols get unnecessary plastic surgeries, unnecessary body shaming (they like their idols super skelly, so even skinny-fit or muscular women are consider fat), pedo tendencies, encouraging crazy fan behavior, especially from ssasseng (sp?) who are basically mentally ill fans that poison or follow idols to their houses. Hope this explanation helps.
For me as an ex-fan, I specifically grew to have a problem with the fanbases and their behavior when it comes to their idols. The level of fanaticism and stalker behavior was something beyond anything else I knew and still is, at least when it comes to how commonplace it is in Kpop as opposed to other countries' entertainment industries.
I also have a problem with how highly visuals and looks are held and how that influences idols to get plastic surgery or adhere to very unhealthy starvation diets. A lot of idols are also young when they get recruited and are more likely to be exploited or groomed to continue thinking all of this is normal and acceptable.
There's a lot more I take issue with but it's hard for me to boil them down into simple explanations as I'm not that articulate. I'm also not really into Kpop as much anymore so I don't follow any groups in particular and what I've seen of current trends only encourages me to continue being disinterested.
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And at times the styling legitimately made her look like a retard.
Umji certainly looks better after she lost weight, but still nowhere near idol level.
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Her eye smile is cute. Her mouth smile, not so much.
Remember when Yoona was the template face for plastic surgery? Tzuyu seems to be the new one. She's really cute imo though so I don't blame them but it's incredibly creepy, everyone else just looks like a spooky doppleganger uncanny valley version.
I’ve never seen the futa stuff but if so, ew.
I think she ended up with this image because she doesn’t seem to be too into her looks? Idk how to explain it other than her airport looks are always so awful it’s depressing. She seems like the least likely to complain about being made up more masculinity.
We all know Korea hates muscles but they love flat tummies with cute abs. Krystal was the prime example.
I will never get the argument for Joy’s face. It looks bloated, like her eyes are about to pop out and her lips are shaped weird. She also tries hard to seem sexy and it just comes off as incredibly annoying when paired with her frog face imo
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oh my god me too lmao
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Johnny's obviously had a nose job and something to his jaw at the very least. He's pretty odd looking, especially without makeup.
Now that I think of it, are those lip fillers? I don't remember her natural lips to be this big. They don't flatter her at all.
Shame, I was glad when she dyed her hair dark again, I was expecting another Red era… instead we get this
I see a fuckton of thirsty comments under her pics, all coming from female fans. Last one I've read said something like "Impregnate me" lmao
I think that tomboyish/somewhat tomboyish idols (see Amber, Moonbyul, Seulgi, Jeongyeon) do attract a lot of thirsty lesbian/bisexual fangirls
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his chin looks somewhat the same his nose looks done
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hyuna just uploaded this. horrific fashion aside, the look on edawn’s face is worrying. he looks sui- and homicidal at the same time.
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twice seem relatively light on plastic surgery for a popular girl group but sana's starting to look really weird. she looks stiff and uncanny, i don't blame her for doing the most to get attention from male fans now because the cutesy looks she got known for are going fast. i actually liked that a kpop it girl had a bit of a bigger, almost hooked nose compared to the tiny straight ones a lot of them get so i hope her next move isn't to get a standard kpop nose job
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Jihyo looks different everytime they have a come back. Out of all of them I think Jihyo, momo and nayeon got the most work done.
hyuna is a fucking mess, kek. she achieved mediocre fame and afaik she hasn't invested her money (lots of kpop idols buy houses/property). she is dating her crackhead looking boyfriend, which makes me assume that no sugar daddies/sponsors are in the picture. the money she has now might last for a while, but how is she going to sustain herself economically in the future? i wouldn't be surprised if cube has managed to blacklist her from some shows. her personality seems extremely bland and boring, so i don't think she is going to be invited to variety shows either.
if she releases any music i'm sure it's going to flop. she does not have fans who are willing to spend money on her. most of the people who support her and edawn are international. they aren't talented singers (rappers?) and won't make songs that gain mainstream appeal.>>333721
her face looks so stiff, it's creepy. she looks like an imvu character.
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A lot of people think winwin is natural too. Is there anything particular unnatural about his face now? I haven't been paying attention. He looks the same as he did predebut to me.
yikes, probably fillers
how unfortunate considering she was literally the prettiest
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on what planet? her side profile is so disgusting
SHINee is odd in the sense that there isn't a single voice I like from them, and usually SM groups have at least one vocalist I enjoy. I can recognize that Onew is a very capable singer, but he just sounds like a drowning frog to me. Jonghyun was even more extreme in that regard, Taemin is an even breathier Jaejoong/Michael Jackson-hybrid and I don't like Key's tone either (not gonna comment on Minho bc lol).
If this is a ballad - which I think most people are assuming it to be - then it's going to be a fucking snoozefest, he's probably going to get Kyuhyun's leftovers. The video seems like it could be a Tohoshinki MV from 2010 tbh>>333813>Idol has features (whether they are natural or not) that fit into western beauty standards:
The girls ITT rip them apart>Idol doesn't have features (whether they are natural or not) that fit into western beauty standards:
The girls ITT rip them apart
They love to shit on Korea's harsh beauty standards but they're the same.
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Nope, that's Nakyung from Fromis 9. >>333831
Yes, but it's usually not as severe. IE they don't usually foundation their lips beforehand, they just tint.
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i mean like pic related
imo it doesn't suit mature women
posts like this are so weird to me
what does age have to do with lip color….why do women have to deal with that while guys can just do whatever and never grow up and be video game and college sports obsessed man children while women have to comply with age standards even when it comes to their makeup..
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everytime I see her face I want to punch it. I watched Sixteen and some Twice TV and her personality is annoying and obnoxious af too
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What’s with the white knighting, are you lost? Guys get shit on here as much as women do and gradient lips look retarded on everyone regardless of age/sex. Your post doesn’t even look like it was meant for this thread
why do you guys always bring gender issues to every f thread out there, jfc
male idols who wear it look like faggots too, are u happy now? it was just an opinion>>333922
i think her nose looks fine, at least it’s not a retarded pig nose too small for her face or a jhorse monstrosity. good on her for not being a plastic monster (yet).
whenever i see retardedly nitpicky posts like this about women i always picture a femcel who hates other women and gets their beauty ideals off surgeyed up kpop 12yos and animu lolis.
Nit the anon, but bright red liptint is very much a middle/high school girl thing in Korea. Kind of like babys first makeup kind of thing.
Doesn’t mean that lip tint in general is a middle school thing, anon was kind of reaching by saying that a celebrity endorsing some rando liptint is weird. Thats like saying ariana grande cant endorse eyeliner because racoon eyeliner is associated with middle schoolers.
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Hwasa doesn't look quite right to me. I guess it's the Uncanny Valley at work.
90% of it just depends on what song they get. i think overall their popularity is fairly equal and none of them are noticeably less talented than the others. rose and lisa have more defined images i'd say so we can kind of guess what their songs will be like the same way you could guess with jennie, jisoo could end up with the best song because she isn't known as a singer or performer as much as the other two, so it would have to be good to cover her weaknesses. dara had to get a song to cover for her weaker voice and it turned out fine.
teddy's pretty good at making good songs that don't rely hard on amazing vocals but he's been lackluster lately, so i wonder if any of the other girls get a different composer. if rose co-writes hers (ie strums a couple of guitar chords and writes half a chorus) it could be good for their image
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sana keeps losing more and more weight but still has unfortunate calves
When you have cankles it doesn't matter how much weight you can possibly lose, they're going to stay.
t. cankles haver
If Rose gets a ballad she might end up doing the best, not sure about Jisoo, and Lisa might do better with ifans ie. youtube views.>>334360>so i wonder if any of the other girls get a different composer.
I doubt Blackpink will ever have a song not composed by Teddy, maybe if yg debuts a new girlgroup.
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As a Jonghyun fan, his solo stuff is a lot better than what he sung in Shinee. His Story Op.2 album is A+ and his vocals are warming instead of annoying.
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god korean men are ugly
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lol you right I even caught a guy sleeping in the third pic.
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I get that safety shorts are worn to conceal the money makers but why don't they just plan the outfits in a way they don't look fucking awful.
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same with the blanket thing, just wear shit you can sit in, it's not that hard? especially when it's done in shows where they mainly sit, why not dress them appropriately goddamit.
Is that a pad shes wearing?
Also yeah I don't get why they don't get why they don't use flesh tone shorts give off more of that illusion.
This seems to be a conscious fashion choice and >>334506
seems to be wanting the best of both worlds - slutty, titillating outfits while also seeming ~modest and pure~ for the fanboys.
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momoland doesn't wear those shorts and even tho they're a fucking mess, it's kinda refreshing
yeah and their bound to have some bambino or whatever that group was called that showed their vages on stage moments, and then theyre gonna cry about MUH PRIVACY when the photos are uploaded everywhere and their company will try to sue the internets
im not saying its the girls faults but the company knows what they are doing
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googled bambino but found some "rookie group" laysha that had that happening to a member, i call bs on accident.
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Like that anon said a few threads back, I'm convinced groups like Laysha and Bambino are cover-ups for escort services. Also, this is probably a reach, but I can't be the only one who thinks it's kinda weird the group is called bambino when they do a bunch of sexual shit?
That's why it's such a bad move to promote only 1 member of the group. For the company, ALL MEMBERS are their investment. Even when 1 member becomes so successful that she starts earning more than the whole group combined, there's still the group that needs to be maintained by the company. It's just impossible for the other members to stand out when they're overshadowed by 1 member. The group disbanding is a loss for the company considering what they have invested in the group. It will be harder for the individual members to go on solo activities after that because nobody cares about them in the first place.
Seems like JYP learned it the hard way so they make sure they don't make the same mistake with Twice. Even when Tzuyu stands out the most, they don't offer her the same chance they gave to Suzy because they knew it was a mistake.
yg is such a retard. he’s had his head up jennie’s ass for so long now that he’s left the other members who are much more talented and driven in the dust. if jennie continues to get sloppier and sloppier and eventually leaves the group it’s going to be a huge setback for the remaining members even though they’ve lost a huge deadweight. then jennie’s braindead drone stans are going to celebrate how jennie “made blackpink” even though it’s yg’s fault for being so fucking biased and not pushing the more talented members nearly as hard as he should have.
her becoming so popular isn’t even just about her; he’s been pushing her much harder than the other members since the beginning so of course she’d be the most talked about by now. if she doesn’t get her head out of her ass and starts pulling her load it’s the other members who will be affected the worst.
This just reminds me how I fucking hate Korean sunscreens, the amount of white cast is ridiculous. I can't find a single Korean sunscreen with no tint in it. This is also the reason why Korean foundations always look like a fuckin mask on the face, not only the foundation is ridiculously light but also the sunscreen underneath it.
That dude looks retarded as fuck btw. I don't get how that's cute. That's just plain backwards and retarded.
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BTS coming for the haters
we’re always poking fun at taehyung for being an autist caricature but i honestly wouldn’t be surprised if jin was on the spectrum
his entire way of presenting himself just screams social incompetence and being completely clueless in regards to professionalism
I heard it passing on the radio too, and I'm in Italy. The next day they also passed that weird BTS song that has a Spanish choreo>>334800
Ironically enough I see Jin as the most mentally sound of the group… which is not saying much, but yeah. When V pulled that fan's hair like an autist he was the only one who went like "Wtf" and stopped him
whats up with all these idols having to come forward and apologize for their families shady shit lately? yeeun and now tiffany? and something about the way tiffany worded her statement gives me "my dad is in a literal mob or gang" vibes
heres the original expose
In another case of alleged fraud by a celebrity's parent, Girls' Generation Tiffany's father has been accused of scamming a loaner over 10 years ago.
On December 4, Mr. A alleged he was the victim of fraud by Tiffany's father Mr. Hwang in Manila, Philippines in 2007. The supposed victim told media outlets, "In the past, I trusted him and lent him money, but I wasn't able to get it back. I gave up on it for the past 10 years, but I'm now gaining the strength to speak up. The last time I was able to contact him was in April of 2018."
Mr. A continued that he attempted to contact Mr. Hwang multiple times without success, and three years ago, rumors said Mr. Hwang underwent major surgery in America. He added, "Tiffany and her older brother know about it."
Mr. A also accused Tiffany's father of running a scam under the guise of a golf course, and Mr. Hwang allegedly used mobsters to control him. He continued, "The world has changed, and we can freely discuss the scams we endured from the families of celebrities. It's late, but I'm posting this."
and heres her response
“Hello, this is Tiffany. I have read the post written by a person who has been hurt by my father in the past. I wish to present my statement to the public, whom I have caused concern to, because my heart is heavy with sorrow.
“Since I was young, I have had a difficult childhood because of my father’s various issues. Even after I made my debut, I received threats from people related to my father because of various financial issues that occurred without my knowledge.
“Not only this, but I was also pressured by my own father to repay his debts. I took financial responsibility multiple times because I believed it was expected of me as a familial matter.
“I was always scared that I would bring harm to my precious members and those around me because of this.
“Despite this, my father and those related to him continued their threats. It reached a point where I felt that I could no longer bear his problems, so I broke off ties with him and we agreed to live separate lives. It has been seven years since I have last contacted him.
“Though it was not an easy decision to speak about my family affairs in such unfortunate circumstances, I have written this statement because I feel sorry towards the person who has been hurt by my father for a long time, and towards all those who have been hurt because of this situation.
“Once more, I sincerely apologize for this controversy.”
sounds like some scary shit tbh
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This is what they meant during his live stream game >Super pathetic
I agree something is funky
Also yeah, the companies will shield you from stuff but how far are they really willing to go? >Tinfoil
but could it be possible that her dad had mob or gang connections in the Korean industry and somehow got her in the company????? Idk cause like I’m surprised they didn’t kick her out SNSD
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Soooooo BTS and Ed Sheeran huh
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this is going to be an absolute piece of sad boi shit
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bts ft. the chainsmokers, another awful combo
I looked up their heights, the Chainsmokers guy on the left is 1.75 and the one on the right is 1.85. BTS members claim to be
Rap Monster: 181 cm (5'11")
Jin: 179 cm (5'10" 1/2)
Jungkook: 178 cm (5'10")
V: 178 cm (5'10")
J-Hope: 177 cm (5'10")
Suga: 174 cm (5'8.5")
Jimin: 173 cm (5'8.3")
All these numbers are lies lol
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omg he legit doesn't look human anymore
if all of them stand next to MNEK(the guy in >>335046
), they all be dwarfs>>335046
Congratulations ratman, now you look like a rat mixed with some reptile species.
bts: fuck the haters, we don't give a fuck about them. we really don't care anymore, okay? you can't stop me lovin' myself. we are so confident. we love ourselves.
comment on maplestory: you are ugly and exo is better
bts: ?!?!??! omg be sure that bighit is going to sue you!!
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"he was obviously joking"
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The reason why companies are suing is because they can. Koreas libel law may just seem retarded when applied to situations like these, but it‘s actually very open to abuse. This is a bigger issue than BTS saying their feelings got hurt.
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In other news, angry armies are flodding twitter because Youtube rewind featured IDOL but not BTS themselves, especially since YT "unfairly" deleted views from the video.
Spoiler: The deleted views were from bots
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this just shows how well-trained idols are at selling a personality.
>jungkook acting like a virgin fanboy around iu>knows iu personally
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eh, you never know. she was probably fucking eunhyuk at some point
Samefag that posted article
I totally agree that’s why it sounds fishy like why wouldn’t he know this bitch they are in the same industry kek
Euw she totally was fucking him
Poor choice in men
Hopefully one of the members that fans just know
are gay and are totally together
with another member.
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I don't really understand what kpop fans(specifically female fans) have against "cute" concepts, like why do all the girl groups have to have the "girl crush" or edgy concepts. Lovelyz has stayed consistent since their debut, despite what this stan says and idk what it so wrong with that.
On a similar note, it bothers me that cutesy groups like Lovelyz seem to have a majority male fanbase. I like them because of how feminine and non-sexualized they are, but their fanbase makes me think the company is probably just pandering to pedos.
i don't get why kpop fans take it so personally when people don't like a style of music or certain people's voices. i see stuff like "just say you hate women and go" over people not liking loona
personally i don't like cute concepts because they nearly always require the group to either sing in a baby voice or shriek, but the first song i think of when i think of that shrieking is the opening of pristin's wee woo, which isn't exactly cute
lovelyz stans seem more obsessed than your average fan, it's scary and cult-like.>>335334
lol i was just about to say this. a lot of anime fanboys and male kpop stans love girls who act cute and submissive (?). i do believe there are different types of cuteness, but some kpop idols (like yerin from gfriend) do this "cute" act where they talk/behave like a child. it's cringey af, but male fans seem to eat it up.
i have no idea why so many female fans hate cute concepts. as long as they don't feel forced, they should be fine? i remember people complaining about twice being "too cute" back in 2016. lovelyz do (did?) the cute concept rather naturally though. so did oh my girl until they released the banana monkey mess.
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That reminds me of this comment I under a Twice article. Some people are really in denial about liking cute concepts.
A couple former Kpop friends I had didn't like cutesy groups and concepts because they didn't like the same thing in J-idol groups. I don't like cutesy concepts usually either, especially the overly saccharine ones, as I don't like the bubbly pop music that tends to go with it.
As for their fanbase being mostly guys, I feel like it's because they're just selling the other end of the sexual spectrum (pure, virginal, girl next door types vs. edgy, sexy, bad girl types).
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a bts Stan acc tweeted something like "I love my man suga" and someone contacted them saying this.
I think there's something seriously wrong in these types of fans lives who act like this. There's a mexican woman in her 40s at my job who barely speaks a lick of english but when she is, it's usually something about bts. As I was clocking out one day, she stopped me to show me a video on her phone that her friend recorded of rap monster talking at a concert and she was literally bawling her eyes out in front of everyone while watching him just speaking to the audience, probably not even understanding what he's saying. She always talks about how she wants only a korean boyfriend too and I know she's going through a divorce and she's very upset about it. The only reason why I know about bts is because of her and when I browse here, I see this thread pop up and it reminds me of her lol.
Excuse the blog, but this is just my theory.
I wish we would stop using kpop fans slang in the critical threads.>>335339
Kind of creepy how 90% of the fans are men, a lot of them over their 40's, but you can still spot a couple of preteen girls in the audience between them.
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you're an idiot, saying idiotic things, anon.
ot but where is it from then?
I've never read it outside of lolcow kpop threads.
iirc there was a blind itembelieved to be about IU that said she was a legit starfucker even though she was famous
that she fucked a lot of male idols and was so good at giving blowjobs she got compared to a vacuum
>much better music
both groups' music is garbage, most of their songs are completely unlistenable.. unless you're a brainwashed fangirl.
bts 2.0, or another group (like nct) will rise to the top sooner or later. either way bts will fade into irrelevancy at some point, and watching it is going to be incredibly entertaining. they are bound to run into a scandal sooner or later, i bet they'll be more careless as their popularity starts to drop.
i wonder if the new it boy group's fans are going to be as toxic, spergy and annoying as armies. 1D fans and beliebers were everywhere in the early 2010s, but kpop fans are of another breed entirely. hopefully a western artist or group fills the void bts will leave behind.
the kpop "i'll never date. i don't need a gf, have my fans!" act makes fangirls go batshit. at least western fans are allowed to act their age and have gfs. i think there's something healthy seeing your fave artist have his own life and be allowed to act like a human being ffs.>>335283
iu is a good artist, but her image is so artificial. i wonder what she's really like, she seems like a person who sleeps around a lot based on how shameless she was about that digusting pic.
Taeyong seems natural to me, though if he got anything done it's probably a minimal nose job or filler, considering his childhood and predebut photos (though his skin looks lightened)>>334279
. And also >>333750
Winwin seems natural, just better styling and makeup now. Anyone have stats on Doyoung? I haven't seen much of him predebut so I wouldn't know how much work he did or didn't do. Taeil and Yuta seem the most PS heavy, and I'm glad Yuta's chin fillers wore off now. He looks so much better.>>334279
Not overrated, as on a technical level his voice was one of the best in the industry. But everyone either loved or hated his tone, it's a very particular and unique voice for sure.>>334326
You should listen to the She Is album too! A lot of his solo stuff features more of his natural inflection, while the group work focuses on getting that classic SM ballad belt (I really only think Chen can pull it off in a non annoying way). I'm not a huge fan of ballads or the diva-esque songs of the west that show off someone's singing ability to the extent that they do, myself. >>334687
Not gonna lie, I think it's really endearing how retarded he is, he genuinely has autistic traits and I think it's cute. I like all my idols just a little bit autistic. >>334813
It reminds me of when Taeyong had to apologize for those scamming rumors that ended up not even being true. Seeing him cry kind of broke my heart. Same with Tzuyu apologizing for the Taiwanese flag thing.
>>335452>both groups' music is garbage, most of their songs are completely unlistenable.. unless you're a brainwashed fangirl.
Music is art and art is subjective, I like NCT's music personally but it's cool if you don't. However, I've never been a big fan of BTS's. There's a couple songs that I do enjoy, but the over all production and tone of most of their voices puts me off. Like, RM sounds like he has a frog in his mouth when he says anything. I will say Taeyong sounds like an engine, but I find that tone pretty interesting while others are repulsed by it.
Anyway, most fandoms are overbearingly annoying. It's why I stay off stan twitter, I can't stand being around that kind of mentality. They will eat anything their idols serve without a second thought, and they will fight like mad to defend them over the dumbest shit. Recently there was that Jimin shirt thing, with Armys literally defending the bombing of Japan in WWII which is just….astounding.
The thing about kpop that breeds fans of this extent is the marketing. Western musician marketing does the ideal boyfriend thing, but not the potential boyfriend thing. Western fans understand that one day Justin and Zayn will date someone, but kpop fans are spoonfed so many messages and manipulaton from companies that their idols love THEM and want THEM. Things like fansigns just make that worse. So yeah, you get these more "intimate" events and contents so you can get more attached to the artists (which builds trust, which builds the die hard fans that will elevate and fund you no matter the emotional or financial costs), but it also breeches privacy and breeds this possessive fangirl attitude. Idols are never marketed as people, as Western artists usually are, but instead products. Boyfriends and girlfriends you buy based on your type.
The worst part about it is that this kind of marketing works, it makes the companies a shit ton of cash, so they won't stop. Even at the detriment of their own talent.
I think the whole "idols can't date" mentality is also why so many ex-Directioners flocked to BTS immediately - teenage girls were butthurt that they couldn't stop Harry Styles from fucking supermodels every night, but they absolutely can prevent idols from earning money if they get caught dating. >>335463
It's probably both - the company gives her revealing stage outfits for sure, but offstage she tries to be the sexiest too. I wouldn't mind if she could pull it off but it's so obvious that the sexy thing isn't a good fit for her personality.
Companies also encourage psychotic fan behaviour or do very little to stop it because they can use what the stalker (I forgot the Korean word for it) knows as leverage/blackmail against any idol trying to stand up to their company. I've heard these stalkers cover up a lot of shit their oppas do as long as they still like him. >>335470
SM should try to give Joy another image then I guess, this one is just not working out. The other members' images fit because they probably got personalities closer to what they're really like, so all they have to do is play it up a bit. The disconnect between Joy's image and what she really might be like is just a bit more blatant imo.
Majority of them are dating within their agencies but some of them have this fake cutesy personality to hide the fact they are just fucking around ahem IU but it is what it is. 95% of the boys are fuckboys so I dont expect much.>>335276
I wont be shocked if she's fucking him. JK is one of the fuckboys of the industy, I bet dispatch has receipts of him hoeing around or going to these strip clubs
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Never forget JK blatantly checking out this chick's ass. He and his group are def fucking bitches.
"We ain't got this in Korea."
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it was paused making it seem like he was looking at her butt
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the ~maknae~ being cute and bubbly is so annoying when it's forced. i like sinb from gfriend, she is really sarcastic and doesn't hide that she hates the fake cute act, even though she is one of the youngest members. she seems so disgusted when the other members do it, kek.
do you guys think umji bought her way into the group? her family is rich, and she literally doesn't add anything to the group. i don't buy the story about her being "scouted on the street". umji constantly acts like an outsider. the other girls seem to have good chemistry with each other and joke around a lot, but umi just … stands there. some of the other girls seem to kinda dislike her? idk.
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So armeries on Twitter are celebrating something about a Grammy nomination….then I go to the website and see this bullshit.
Their art director (not BTS themselves) got nominated for their album cover art basically. The barest of the barest minimum, yet armpits are acting like it's BTS who got nominated and are hoping BTS will get to go and perform there. The delusion is in the stratosphere.
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nothing, guess they had to give them some random nomination so that armys can shut up
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Did they like the photocards that much? Because the cover art is extremely basic, I suck ass at Photoshop and I could make that up in an hour or so. Kpop albums generally have greater packaging than western albums anyway so really any group could have gotten this nomination.
Slight OT but Lee Hi's Seoullite album (pic related) had beautiful cover art.
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the absolute state of armies. the grammy goes to the fucking designer(s) of the CD and album art, something none of the retarded bts members were involved in. this does not make it a grammy nominated album? this is so embarrassing.
compared to the other nominees (pic related), love yourself tear looks pretty basic. this is totally a pity nomination made to prevent the armies from attacking the grammys.
they totally believe bts will get a nomination next year though. the delusion..
"bts are amazing songwriters!! their lyrics are better than everyone else!! not everyone can understand the true meanings of their songs, they are too deep"
"do you speak korean?"
im gonna be the devils advocate and say sulli wasnt a hoe until she started hanging out with hara and dasom tbh
that was around the time she met choiza and started getting photographed by that creep pedo korean terry richardson photographer and then every time you saw her she was at a club getting wasted
honestly tho its not that big of a deal and it didnt make her any less likable to me lol
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this girl from g-idle or whatever looks just like joy
i'll say it again, either all these idols are morphing into the same person, or i have that disease that causes facial blindness
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Lol what anon they look nothing alike. Maybe you're thinking that because she also has the "sexy" styling of her group.
I have to say G-idle's stage was really cool on Melon Music Awards, but it's still shit when you see them do the usual choreo you already saw a million times. You can try to make stages extravagant as fuck , but if it's the same as me seeing a regular comeback stage then it's just sprinkles on a turd. Most kpop idols have so little to offer, imagine taking away their choreo and lip syncing, they have nothing.
I like kpop for what it is, but I can't help but find it funny when they have these HUGE stages when they are only rookie groups with not much to offer. Let's not even talk about Blackpink sheesh…
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they both look so trashy but they still managed to get booked as a couple. I'm curious about their popularity in korea.
e'dawn… sweetie… please button your pants… don't publicly humiliate yourself in the name of your aesthetic…
do you guys think hyuna still dresses him or he dresses himself now because he's a big boy?
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Yup. That’s why she does those shit curly bangs to hide her lack of hairline
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So used to seeing their new faces that I completely forgot what their old faces looked like
There was an old backstage video where Jin said that V would talk to himself, make weird noises, and play with imaginary friends when he was alone - at the ripe old age of 18-19. If that isn't retardation I don't know what is>>335921
Whatever she did to her face made it bloated as hell.
Also G idle fans are beginning to get obnoxious with their superiority complex, mostly because their bandwagon stans include armys desperate to stan any girl group with a "badass" image.
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I had hopes for gfriend but their songs are so bland now.>doesn't hide that she hates the fake cute act
They must be all sick of it by now.
The one time they tried to experiment with Fingertip, their rabid male fanbase was outraged at their innocent angels not wearing white and let the song flop. Same with their recent summer song. They've got no choice but to do the bootleg early SNSD sound again and again to stay relevant.
As much as their fans deny it, they would be nowhere if that one girl hadn't fallen on stage multiple times.
Is this considered fashionable in Korea? Genuinely asking.>>335935
Both are it seems.
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honestly yes and no
i follow a lot of k fashion blogs and female koreans do tend to dress in what westerners would consider to be a "conservative" or outright dumpy style even
but its usually much better put together than how hyuna does it
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Kek anon I'm dying, did the rat ghost write this for you?
this deadass has the same level of quality that all of rat monster's English verses have
tae oppa is just depressed that he can't come out with his squishy hubby kookie :(
some armys were tinfoiling about how he is depressed because he isn't as lively as he used to be, became quieter, started to lose so much weight, sometimes he's shaking in performances and stuff. idk about his weight but maybe he's growing out of a phase or they gave up on the exaggerated weirdo act
looking up about his persona, some armys are saying "he doesn't like being called an alien/2D, stop calling him that", did he actually say that?
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Of course they have a "designer friend" who also licks the ground BTS walk on
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I had no idea so many armys were designers and art directors now, it used to be doctors and lawyers earlier
its funny watching bts stans talk about how the album art is sooooo gooooood because if another group had this album art and they got nominated bts fans would be shitting on it for just being a line. i really wish they didnt get a pity nomination.
the album design doesnt even have anything to do with bts…
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To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand BTS
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tfw bts' lyrics are so deep that even korean speakers can't understand
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oh my god this is hilariously accurate
>[jin] the>[jin] ok
>[jhope] woo! yuh, rule
>[suga] anxiety im sad>billboard got me glad
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These are just basic lyrics. whats there not to understand? Do these armys retarded or what? The almighty English king, Professor Rat writes lyrics even humans cannot understand. Of course us normal humans cannot understand a rat.
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some exol made a parody of this post and the salt in the comments is exactly what you’d expect from your average armpit
>>336038>real musicians aka bts
the only ones who sometimes write or produce are the rappers and like >>336042
said, they always get credited with a shit ton of songwriters with producers. the verses they write are so mediocre anyway. as performers, the vocalists except jungkook are so weak, the rappers are okay for k-pop but nothing special and their only competent dancers are j-hope and jimin. i don't like exo that much either but they actually do have some well-trained vocalists and dancers
that shower post dragging them was amazing and has almost 32k likes.
i never get tired of watching fandoms unite in their hatred of armpits.
This tweet >>335999
is already being used as copypasta by other fandoms now kek
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were comments under this post lmao
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Imagine the smell
I used to have a big crush on Yubin in the Wonder Girls band era, but nowadays she looks like a female J-Hope… that's one bad nosejob
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This exactly. I just can't see why some girls in this thread get absolutely pissed with idols playing out this cutesy, pure, non-sexual persona, when it's their literal job. It's gross and wrong to make them abstain from dating and I thought we were criticizing kpop industry for it - but the thread is full of "I'm sure she's fucked some men, that absolute whore, she's no virgin". Wow.
Honestly, this thread just reminds me very much of the ana-chan threads.
the only thing thats keeping it alive internationally is the groups that mentally ill people flock to, bts for girls and twice/momoland for guys basically
but hallyu is dead for sure because all of those groups from the era are done
Exactly. Pretty much all idols are in they're 20s ofc they're having sex. The only reason they act virginal is because their company makes them.
People ITT foaming at the mouth at the thought of them haveing sex with eachother are no better than delulu fangirls foaming at the mouth at the thought of dirty slut IU ruining they're pure oppar, Jungkookie's innocence uwu
If you're gonna be a whore, fucking someone whos actually attractive is much more admirable than "accidentally" uploading post sex selfies with someone who looks like a mentally retarded mallard and then trying to lie about it.
Like..at least upgrade your standards to half way attractive actors or something and embrace the fact that you are a whore who fucks anybody and everybody and doesnt even use protection(if the blind item is true) lol.
If you go in any thread where someone does that kind of stuff, you are gonna get the same reaction. Nobody here cares if an idol dates someone if the relationship isnt milky. But just fucking anything and everything is gross. Its the same thing for male idols for me. Big Bang are disgusting and I wouldnt want to be in the same room of them because of how nasty they are and many prostitutes they've fucked.
i wish there had been a thread about it here when it happened it was so funny
i dont think she would have admitted it if not for fans doing their creepy stalker detective work and saw the couch and her outfit were the same and she claimed she was "sick" so she asked him to come over but like..it was obvious they had sex like…why lie?
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He's also a confirmed creep. All of SJ pretty much is but he really takes the cake with his participation in creeping on young idols like SNSD when they first joined SM. He made me so uncomfortable around Lovelyz for their little show they had too.
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IU smashed this man. yuk
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At least Leeteuk is slightly attractive(not that it makes it ok). Imagine this thing trying to hit on you.
"There's a celebrity who is like the main character of 'Nymphomaniac'
'Nymphomaniac' is a film about a female sex maniac. She found the pleasure of a genital at a young age and has sex with many different people, but it still doesn't satisfy her enough. Someone like this exists in our entertainment industry.
This is the case of a singer A. She keeps meeting men and is busy filling up her sexual pleasure. Her looks are totally opposite from a 'sex maniac'. She has innocent looks and has cool personalities, so she easily become friends with anyone. She has outstanding looks and she works at a variety of fields due to her long celebrity career.
But her mind is completely opposite from the outside. She's naughty and sexual to the maximum. She's said to be trying to sleep with the men she works in the same albums, projects, and variety shows. Her sex skills are also no joke and she has an ability of making men have premature ejaculation. Her absorptive force is as strong as a vacuum cleaner and it feels as if his veins would burst, giving orgasm.
Lately, A is into the stars who have it big. She's completely into the big things that fill her hard. She has sex with no condoms and is taking birth control pills instead. She even gives advices to the women who are having trouble with sex."
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heechul doesn't deserve a pass. he's always in weird ships with rookie idols half his age and boosting them on his insta and tv shows. that thing with momo is also really weird too. fans unironically ship them and he publicly creams himself when she does that "niko niko nii" thing on tv and plays it up so hard. his job is basically to flirt with every young idol that comes on his show, and create lovelines. But somehow that's okay because it's just him being his naughty self, and fans eat it up
its all fake though so i doubt he's a danger or makes girls uncomfortable because they all know what the deal is
he's been fucking/in a relationship with his male hair stylist forever
heechul is gay. he plays the stereotypical gay best friend (while being closeted). him being gay is an open secret in the industry i think. he probably finds momo cute and, like you said, plays it up. the fact that they are making it seem like he is ~lusting~ after her is creepy af. ironically, there isn't anything remotely romantic or sexual about his interactions with female idols lol.
i wonder how many other idols this applies to. even though certain groups love to make the members do weird pda shit to please the fans, a portion of kpop idols are gay or lesbian.
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ryeowook, another super junior member, is also painfully obviously gay.
it’s funny bc in suju there’s also a religious nut in siwon and these two are pretty open about not getting along. i wonder if siwon is secretly seething on the inside being stuck in a group with two flamboyant homosexual men for so many years.
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no one is foaming at the mouth because grown ass singers are having sex, you absolute spergs. people are pointing out how ironic it is that an idol with a forced "pure" and "innocent" image, like iu, is posting post-sex selfies on social media like a clout chasing soundcloud groupie. that was such a milky and attention whoring move.
speaking of idols "accidentally" sharing private pictures.. remember when that pic of mina and bambam was posted, and sea got7 stans wanted to skin her alive? kek.
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didnt siwon get caught going to a "gay gym"(apparently asia has those) and tried to play it off lol and tried to sue naver or dispatch or whoever posted about it? i think it was originally in a non korean tabloid magazine with pictures and everything
oh found it haha
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can’t go on pinterest to look at aesthetic hot men (don’t judge) without this edit popping up every time
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i know this is an edit but i've thought that something is really off with this guy's abs. i'm not saying this in a "omg he has to be ronaldo-tier buff!!" way, it's just that i don't understand how someone's build can change so drastically in a short period of time. i think he was just slightly bulked up and they tried to make him look more muscular in their billboard performance with makeup on his abdomen or gave him some ab sculpting surgery, idk
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Soyou is ugliest imo
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well kpop fans are weirdos most of the time so you arent wrong
honestly the majority of idol interactions seem fake to me
hell even TaeNy seemed to be deliberately forced the majority of the time SNSD was together
one of the reasons i liked watching the idol olympics was that it felt like the interactions were real and friends in different companies were allowed to hang out
thats probably why they pretty much banned fans from attending and taking photos though tbh
never forget the hwayoung umbrella incident lmaoooo
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You don't have to if you don't want to anon
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her features are pinched and weird
honestly no one in sistar is a looker and i never understood why they were marketed as a ~sexy~ group
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yubin had a lesbian "phase" before she debuted.
i'm convinced seungkwan and sehun also are gay.
You said she's uglier than soyu when that's just objectively not true at all but go off. Not the stan thread but i'm gonna call out bullshit if i want to, be mad
>honestly no one in sistar is a looker and i never understood why they were marketed as a ~sexy~ group
hyuna's not that great looking either but took lee hyori's place as sex symbol goddess. Face isn't important Groups/artists that sing, dance, and dress proactively are gonna be marketed as 'sexy' and that's what they'll be known for.
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all i could find was this and some fanservice baiting stuff lol sm must have destroyed the evidence
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This one? It’s donghae from SJ. The only decent member lmao