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Rant about Kpop, its creepy fandoms, and/or its fucked up industry. Or just nitpick some idols.
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thank fuck someone finally made a new thread
love the thread pic anon!
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Twice with the fanservice again.
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i was watching some performances from sbs gayo daejun, there was a bts performance with v wildly sticking out his tongue on the thumbnail and i was just thinking how bts members are trying way too hard to be sexy, v and jimin in particular. they just seem more concerned about looking good rather than actually performing well
Did y'all see that the other members of that boy group with the abuse allegations are claiming that the 2 guys are liars and the punishments either didn't happen, was overexaggerated, or not done by the agency but their own dad.
What's y'all take on it?
still reminds me of the first time that one member of BTS sang a song from charlie puth and armies spammed the fuck out of his social media and the comments under his music video talking about him and how he was so much better or how they should collaborate and shit like that. i would legitimately be embarrassed if my fans harassed my "idol" to collaborate with me rather than the artist genuinely wanting to. tbh most of what BTS and kpop groups have gotten are due to their annoying ass fans spamming the fuck out of them. even their awards are due to whatever fan group can scream the loudest about how their precious bois deserve it.>>344850
if anyone else genuinely believes those kids aren't being abused they are stupid. it's a clear case of hierarchy and abuse that got them to shut up. tbh i wouldn't be surprised if abuse happens behind every kpop group and they were just willing to report it. there's always some story about a kpop idols hard journey to becoming one with hints of what sounds like abuse, or a form of it, here and there but their fans just say how they "worked hard" or were "strong." stupid.
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Damn Jungkook reminding me of Jimin with his stupid contacts and how off they look.
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Yuri used to be so pretty but now she looks like a middle aged mom (although I guess this styling is for a drama). I feel like most of SNSD except Taeyeon because she's rich and Tiffany because she's american will get married and knocked up and disappear from public life soon
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has oh my girl's hyojung's bad plastic surgery ever been brought up because her pinched nose sends me
while looking for photos i found out oh my girl was hyped as a plastic surgery-free group lmao RIGHT
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ugh, reminds me of that singaporean blogger QiuQiu and her terrible nose job.
The SM year-end stage was such a mess. The groups didn't even share a stage together. Stylists just threw shirts over Red Velvet's stage outfits for their performance with Hyoyeon and reduced NCT to Exo's backup dancers. This felt like a way to push NCT into everyone's faces again somehow.
Also, Sunmi seems to be taking her performance cues directly from stan Twitter and trying to incorporate as much fanservice as possible - Twitter will not shut up about the fact that Sunmi ran a hand across Seulgi's chest. Credit to her for keeping up the act after Gashina though, nobody knew who she was until last year and now she's lesbian queen or something.
I dont think its fair to say no one knew who she was until last year.
The same people who jumped on the YASSSS SAPHIC QUEEN SUNMI boat were on the YASSSSSS ALEX REID LOOKS LIKE ME SO IM A RANIA STAN NOW when rania was infinitely better 6 years ago than they ever were when alex was in the group. Those kinda fans aint shit. It is definitely shitty that shes pandering though.
When I say "no one" I do mean international stan Twitter, obviously the Korean public must have known of her because her previous solos did well too.
>It is definitely shitty that shes pandering though.
Full Moon and 24 Hours were also sensual and sultry but there was no queerbaiting of any kind. Ever since she decided to be more active on Twitter and reply to memes and such she's turned up the fanservice way too much. Her songs do very well in Korea now so I don't know why she feels the need to pander to stan Twitter, the annoying ones hyping her up won't even buy her albums
I could never really get past his "princess" attitude, but I'm sure his die hard fans would conclude anyone who dislikes him are jealous
of his ps ass.
He really does, his mannerisms and everything. I guess he was right when he said he never grew up past 15.>>345048
It depends on situation to me. Sometimes he's really funny and other times he's an absolute douche. He reminds me of a lot of the gay dudes I know. Funny but don't know when to stop with the attitude.
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Tbh it can be said about all idols, both male and female. No matter how manly/"badass" is the act they put on stage, you will see them trying to look as cutesy as possible in their selfies
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i hate when idols post pics like this, especially with the snow filter, it looks so ugly
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i think they're super ugly but probably bc they give the impression of bigger eyes
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hey guys remember when ratmon invented the english language?
What do anons think about k-buzz. It reminds me a lot of this thread. Shits on idols and gets all the fans riled up and angry while making a ton of money at it.
If Kpop Critical was on youtube we would be making bank.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwVjPVJVrbs
Hm.. I never heard of k-buzz but if it's anything like this thread I gotta check it out.
I absolutely hate Taeyong's voice/rapping. He recently featured on Yunho's solo song on tvxq's new album and he sounds like a complete artist. A person who translates kpop songs said "I didn't translate the rap BC it's gibberish" and they're right. It was bad,unneeded and wasn't even related to the song. It was literal gibberish ft NCT promo. I hope Taeyong's didn't write that garbage BC if he did…whoooo boy… I wish sm wouldn't shove nctrash down everyone's throat.
It's basically allkpop articles in video form. I don't why people still fall for obvious clickbait.>>345174
he went back to the army and hasn't said anything about it since. the trainee he smoked with comes back every once in a while to talk about him or other idols and get into fights online.
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ofc they had to add a "hiphop" beat over the og instrumental.
Couldve gotten an orchestra and a way more competent singer but no…idols are the market.
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chanyeol, jin and dahyun were mcing together and they seemed okay with each other..? it's funny how exo and bts themselves have literally no beef against each other yet fans keep finding a reason to fight over. you look at the reasons why they hate the other group and it's always "exo-ls did this", "armys did that". maybe just.. stop fighting over dumb shit?
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okay pls dont ask me where i found this but what the FUCK
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I'd say Jin and V look like they didn't get much done, but the others had obvious nose jobs, jaw and eyelid surgeries. They're not fooling anyone
638 comments from pressed armies, between this and the Kpop Isn't Popular article, Digital Music News is doing a fine job of generating traffic from triggered
These threads really do get raided by newfags everytime. How often are we going to have the "Armys are delusional BTS are plastic hags, unlike my oppas!" discussion?
Big fucking lol @ Suga's jaw though.>>345400
Have those two really caught up though? RV's only legit hit was Red Flavour and BP promotes only once a year. Twice should start weaseling their way into variety/acting, groups are decaying even faster than before, as you said. I'm sure JYP that fucking creep already has his next batch of pre-teens ready to go.
bts' surgeries get ragged on a lot because armys are constantly insisting that they aren't like all the other plastic idols and they are 100% pure ps free natural beauties
except that one rhinoplasty one of them got to breathe easily or something
i don’t think bts will really decline much until there’s another group to take over for them. exo didn’t really decline in popularity that much but they got overshadowed by bts, i imagine it’ll be the same thing again. i’ve seen people argue that they’ll get owned once bigbang comes back, but at this rate bts are going to start heading to the army before seungri even enlists
twice passing their peak could be good for them, though. as long as a decent chunk of their fanbase stays loyal then they can change their music style and stuff, if they’re never going to have another cheer up then they don’t need to try.
i predict a couple of members leaving groups under negative circumstances. since bts have all re-signed, if one of the sadboy members wants to leave then they’ll either have to pay off the contract or go through a lawsuit. i see an nct member quietly leaving after being absent for a bit, maybe a red velvet member leaving. sm likes to try to divert attention from big scandals by debuting new groups or giving comebacks and their new gg should be ready to debut in 2019. re: sexist, racist etc scandals, wendy will make another insensitive comment, one of the bts sweet smol baby boys (ie v or suga) will say something incredibly shitty but fans will try to hide it, and a male idol with a bad reputation implies he likes a female idol with a good reputation, prompting panic and fanwars on all sides
The gap is getting smaller. Red Flavor might be RV's signature song but Rookie, Dumb Dumb and Power Up did very well on the charts and they now have the "nation's representative" tag after their North Korea performance. Irene's face is everywhere in Korea now and they have a large female following which will probably keep them afloat in the future. As for Blackpink, DDDD was a HUGE hit, numbers wise bigger than most of Twice's songs this year, and Jennie doing well also kept Blackpink's name in the spotlight by association. Plus the general public might get tired of the cute sound soon - 5 years ago sexy concepts were all the rage and it might come back full circle, who knows?
I'm just saying that Twice might be on their last legs now because they didn't experiment with their sound at all once they had a fanbase in place.
>Twice should start weaseling their way into variety/acting
This probably a big factor in Twice not having a longtime career; they don't have one member on the level of Irene or Jennie's fame in Korea. Tzuyu, Nayeon and Sana are decently well-known but JYP didn't capitalize off of that and give them more solo promotions since he got burned badly by the Miss A situation.
Watch big hit's new boy group have natural handsome faces, who all can speak English and actually sing/rap/dance
That's probably their "formula" especially when it comes to promoting in Western entertainment.
Hell, if i were still into this kpop shit i'd drop bts in a quick second.
Then you need to sort out your twitter following, not shit up the threads with old milk.>>345412
I agree with you on all accounts. I've also noticed that their fandom has calmed down a bit whereas BP's fandom is as obnoxious as ever. Makes me a bit sad because with BP and Twice being essentially 2ne1 and SNSD 2.0, I would've loved seeing an upgraded blackjacks vs SONE.>>345413
Not even trying to be mean, I'm legit curious, if you don't care for kpop anymore - why are you here?
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blackjacks vs sones drama was always so good, they managed to fight over everything. 2010-2013 was the peak, ironically it was less exciting when they had comebacks at the same time in 2014 since they both did nearly equally well and both groups started to crumble soon after.>plastic surgery
snsd nearly all having work done vs bom's increasingly stiff face>vocal talent
multiple non-vocal members vs not having a taeyeon level vocalist>dancing
boring, typical girl group dancing vs minzy seizures holding the group together>fashion
revealing, costumey outfits vs jeremy scott vomit
the last one was the best, since the i got a boy teaser came out and snsd were wearing entirely jeremy scott and js knockoffs. blackjacks were so smug over the fact that one of sones big digs at 2ne1 over the years was their ugly, mismatched street clothing.
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I was also very fond of the 2ne1 japanese debut memes. Good times.
Exactly. Trainees come to Korea and are expected to integrate within Korean culture, yet BTS comes to America expecting to be dominating the charts and media when the niggas won't even bother to learn English, and I mean all 7 off them, not just Ratmon and Junglebook.
They made most of their money through the American charts and streaming platforms, and just went oh! the #1 music industry in the world shockingly pays better than Korea.
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Speaking of nostalgic Kpop shit, remember that huge SNSD’s hate forum where ELFs would lose their shit and call all of the members whores for interacting with their faves? Ratmys are just the little sisters of old crazed super junior fans.
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ELF legit bullied a girl until she an hero'd. Which is why I think people saying Army/Exo-L are cancer is almost funny. Asian americans on twitter searching for some obscure german literature reference in their gay korean pop music fave's music videos may be cringey but it's so harmless lmfao
To be fair though, we all know that sm's groups always inherit fans from their seniors, so exo-l def have done a lot of messy shit, especially around their debut. With the influx of ex-1D fans army have been in shambles though. Funny how the exo vs bts situation almost reversed completely.
that story was really fucked up. the girl they harassed starved herself for three months and lost half her bodyweight and then had to deal with their crazed harassment.
This is a social media post of hers from pann-choa
>I'm receiving so many hate comments nowadays… ㅠ..ㅠ For real.. Does it makes sense that people are saying that I did plastic surgery? You think that all the swelling would go down in only 3 months? And if you're saying that I lost weight because I ate medication, then what are you making of the people who gain weight by eating medication? Also, to the people who purposely write these things anonymously… Until when am I going to endure all of this? Let's speak frankly, I have been starving day by day for 3 months, everyone knows it already no? It was during my period of growth so I even gave up on growing taller. Seriously, I really starved to death. At that time, I really felt that dying would be better so I went up to my rooftop a few times… I only drank 1-2 cups of milk every day and would go to the hospital every day because of anemia.. Ah~ I even got injection of dextrose. Seriously, to the people who have not put in as much effort as me, please don't talk without thinking. I'm still having a hard time because of anemia! Even now, I only eat 1 meal a day. Do you know why? Because I'm scared of the yoyo effect… So I'm still putting in so much effort now, so seeing how people just talk blindly about me like that… is just ridiculous. The world wants lookism so that's why it's so hard.. And what's the issue again this time?… seriously, what do you want me to do? Do you want me to kill myself? The eyes of the people who looked at the old me.. Do you know how I felt? They looked at me like a pig, not a human.. They thought that I should lose some weight, that I was delusioned into thinking that I thought of myself as being skinny already…….. It was seriously so hard.. I cried too.. I hated it. But now that I lost weight, you know what they say? That I lied….. That I'm so good at lying….. They say things like that… Seriously, how can they know how I feel if they are not me?…. This is seriously so hard…. I'm a human too… Really…https://pann-choa.blogspot.com/2018/11/enter-talk-super-juniors-elf-fans-who.htmlhttp://populargusts.blogspot.com/2007/08/weight-loss-tv-superjunior-fans-suicide.html
I remember armys sperging over a "black ocean"
They just wish BTS had the power that SNSD held over boy group fans who hated their success in the past.
This. BTS doesn't need to worry about international armies ditching them for a different Korean group, they'll lose the majority of their crazed fans when another decent teeny bopper male group or soloist makes it big in the armies' country of residence.
BTS just got lucky. Armies aren't subtle about not caring about kpop as a whole, so it always confuses me when people think they'll move from BTS onto another Korean group. They renounce every other kpop act while not realizing that their favorite group is exactly the same.
I'm just hoping the time comes soon so I can stop seeing them everywhere. I don't know if it's sadder that I've seen BTS stuff in public where I live or that I know what BTS is
wew you're late anon
she admitted to it after texts surfaced where hwayoungs twin sister was threatening to disfigure/kill/whatever areum, the newer member, and areum confirmed it and hwayoungs story started to fall apart from there so hwayoung came out with some bullshit "kekeke i was just upset after a misunderstanding go watch my new show lmaooo hul" statement and netizens finally started turning on her
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The Armies shouldn't be as cocky and arrogant as they are now. Let's see what they stan…a vocalist that astral projects his high notes into a different realm, another one that sounds like a dying grandpa,Jungle book's basic vocals, 3 sub par rappers and a cringy narcissist…y I k e s. Bts is the most fake deep,basic boy group alive and armies think that bts are on another level and they're really not. They're were just like every generic kpop group out there with their hip hop concept#1628363 and they still are honestly. If it wasn't for 1D and the whole B.a.p lawsuit thing Bts would be flops.
Also why is Bangtan so arrogant now too? Its starting to reflect in their music and how they present themselves. Like look at the lyrics for Mic drop..and adding your award speech as a track on your album is corny. After they won that dumb BBMA award Bts and Armies have become increasingly worse. I wish shitmies would understand that bts won that award bc armies are the most annoying people on twitter. There's a reason why they haven't won any awards for their music…As long as Armies are around and Bts doesn't bother to integrate and learn even basic English they'll never be taken seriously. All these artists and journalist are only using bts for clout which is extremely obvious.
(Photo semi-related bc who the fuck strolls around an airport (in Korea) holding an irrelevant award that most of the general Korean population couldn't give two shits about)
Meh whatever, let BTS milk their fame. In a year or two, at most, a new group will come and dust them to irrelevancy. We've seen it with TVXQ, Super Junior, Big Bang and it's whats happenining to EXO atm, their fandom will shrink and they'll split at some point.
I think that if it wasn't for the cancerous fandom I wouldn't even consider BTS that milky tbh.
Which member do you guys think has the most cringiest introduction (when they introduce themselves on TV shows i mean ..etc etc)? I honestly think J-horse's is a cringy fest.. either that or "Mr. WoRlDWiDe HanDsOmE"
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Am I do only one who finds "Kpop idol x you" smut fics cringy and disgusting? (Pic related)
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Because it's these
Well that was irritating as fuck, but I couldn't help but imagine how many creeps would sperg over this performance if they were all prepubescent teens.
Also, Umji looks like a prettier Yeri, and Kei's PS makes her look like a fucking alien.
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kei has always looked weird though idk if its necessarily PS
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samefag but this was a year or so after that one so maybe she did get PS idk
either way shes a weird looking one for sure
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What is it with Korean's obsession with overdone eye makeup? She literally looks like a creepy doll here. She already stood out even without the makeup cause of her hair + weird PS.>>345710
I'd give this performance a pass if it was done by some rookie group, not idols with at least 3 years of experience.
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>>345806>a literal child you dont know>calling her a fatass
cranky because youre following the IU diet arent you
Amber honestly just isn't talented in singing or songwriting. All her songs have really meh production and she doesn't have the vocal talent to elevate the mediocrity into something better, a good vocalist would know how to alter their voice to make it flow better with the beat but she's not got that kind of ability. Plus she's not pretty so she can't get away with her lack of talent.
She did well in variety shows and MC gigs, she should've stuck to that to earn money because her own music is nowhere near good enough and SM was right to reject it at first (they're only now letting her release it after she threw tantrums on Instagram).
Luna having a lot of talent and no fans to buy her songs also means visuals are everything; most FX album sales were thanks to Sulli, Krystal and Victoria fans.
Dahyun looks dead behind the eyes. That's an uncanny valley stare if I've ever seen one.
Surprisingly Yeri was good here. Makes me think that maybe she's just not comfortable with RV's concepts and would like to do cutesy stuff like Twice. She should have just waited to debut with the new SMGG; she trained with the younger girls more than she did with the current RV members, and looking at photos of the current SM Rookies she'd be the prettiest of the bunch (some of them are just unfortunate looking, honestly).
I feel bad for her because she was obviously thrown in there last-minute to compensate for RV's nonexistent variety skills; an ex-SM trainee who trained alongside her said she herself was stressed out about debuting.
She'd be much better off mentally if she was in the upcoming group with her friends doing more girly concepts.
I think a lot of people don't realize just how old bts actually are.
Jungkook - the uwu sm0l baby - is 21, V and Jimin are 23, Ratmon and Jhope are 24, Suga is 25 and Jin is already 26 (and still thinks "ironically" saying he's the most handsome dude in the world is okay).
Meanwhile Harry Styles is also just 24, but he's not acting like a retarded 10-year-old and nobody has been coddling him for years now. Same for other young american/euro celebs like Justin Bieber. They're just as young as kpop idols, they get massive hate, yet nobody thinks of this of as much of a tragedy like ratmys do.
Also, seeing bts on non-korean tv exposed their crustiness as well lol
I think that massive amounts of yellow fever is what made/makes them this popular. Tinfoil, but with the rise of popularity of social justice (in around 2015), young impressionable teens started being "woke" enough to no longer like white boys, but not yet "woke" enough to like somebody with darker skin and that's why they go after the tallest asian country, who at least acts as if they're super modern and who also happens to love to slather their faces with white powder.
Even japanese and chinese youtubers or instagramers are leaching off of that "Oppa" shit, by styling themselves korean inspired. Ratmys wouldn't care if the korean dude they get to date looks like golum, they wouldn't even care where exactly he's from as long as he's "azian". You can't go anywhere on the internet without being confronted with something korean, it's just the trend right now.
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Youngest is botched nosejob Jisung who is 16,
I honestly still don't understand why they pushed him to get a nosejob at 15 or younger jfc
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it's funny that they still infantilize a 21 year old man even though he said he wants to be seen manly.
i feel like a lot of idols lowkey hate aegyo and the ajussi/ajummabait uwu smol baby image tbh. v started to grow a beard, hopefully acting like your own age will become a trend in kpop
Could he look any more like fresh out of r/incel?>>345954
why do kpop fangirls sperg out whenever someone dosen't like their shit.
Western artists gets hate all the time and nobody gives a fuck.
what is the timeline of these pictures? they look pretty cute in the middle ones if you ask me, but the last row is really degen with that styling, editing and idk what else
and isnt jaw surgery pretty severe? isnt it more likely weight loss (starving) and photoshop? not trying to wk, just wondering
the members that are mainly discussed in that thread are in their early to mid 20s, as are - i presume - the overwhelming majority of the anons discussing them so stop shitting bricks over this already.
no one cares if you hate them, go ahead and bash them all you want, just stay on topic. it’s the fact you keep shitting up this thread sperging about the general thread and then cry about that thread ruining this one that gets annoying.
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it's partly due to weight loss but i'm pretty sure suga and jhope got jaw surgeries done because of their bone structures compared to their older pics. not sure about jimin because his weight loss seems even more extreme
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even fans of the same group get called antis for daring to voice criticism/opinions that aren’t blind praise.
the person who uploaded the lazy jennie video that went viral was a blink and even had a jennie pfp, and the video itself wasn’t malicious at all but rather seemed concerned, both for her and the other members since she’s basically a deadweight at this point. of course they got cursed out and called an anti by rabid blinks who decided any fan who didn’t turn a blind eye to her sloppiness might as well be satan. there were mature blinks who agreed and were respectful about it but they were drowned out by the insane drooling ones (who of course attacked them too). of course those same losers were celebrating like crazy when the video got taken down.
I'm still laughing at how people tried to pass it off as motion sickness or that she is tired of performing the same songs
okay they may be true but the other members are probably tired too and they perform energetically. Snsd hates gee with a passion and they still perform it like it's brand new. I swear an idol could commit murder and these kpoppies would defend them…wait didn't that already happen?
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i didn’t know this was a thing until now but that is so fucked, wtf is wrong with sm
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did they do something to his jawline? His nose looks…bad but at least it isn't Yuta's chin level of bad
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His chin is just tragic now, even after the fillers/implants settled in he still looks plastic
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suga gained back some weight recently. he doesn't appear totally ana for once and armys exploded with posts of him being tHiCc. his face looks pretty normal/plump too
Has anyone noticed that a lot of anas (especially on Tumblr) are also big kpop (mainly bts) fans? I always sort of felt kpop/anorexia goes hand in hand? Like there's these young impressionable fans seeing their unnies and oppars looking skelly and talking about starving themselves and extreme dieting so they (the fans) do it too and end up with eating disorders. Kpop is so toxic.
lol i have an eating disorder and things like kpop can’t cause eating disorders but they provide pretty good thinspiration ngl
it’s actually refreshing but concerning how extreme dieting and disordered eating is normalised in the kpop industry whereas in the west it’s all about obesity acceptance
i actually think it’s funny how little most of bts know about the american music industry. jimin thought the grammies were a person and it’s clear that these awards and accomplishments from billboard and shit don’t mean as much as the korean awards. which makes sense.
it’s good because america is a shithole and prides itself way too much
bighit posted a photo of him with marks clearly visable, plus several fansite photos showed it. and then like a day later he started performing with a sweatband over his wrist.
i was so worried when i saw this but it is a bit attention seeking cutting on his wrist ngl
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this is the one bighit posted to twitter
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kpop stans continue to be degenerates
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from what i’ve heard it is.
namjoon mentioned that he sees a therapist so maybe they all are finding help through this. i haven’t noticed any more jungkook self harming so maybe he stopped ?? or he does it in a less obvious place and has stopped being an emo 12 year old about it
no one. i was reading washed up youtube drama on the snow page and then went on the homepage, saw a picture of jimins weight loss and came here.
and i’m just saying what i want seeing as that’s what you guys do
Please go back to twitter and continue sucking bts' sweaty ballsack there.
Or should I put it in a language you'd understand? Afshdjdldldjkl SIS! BTS IS SNATCHING YOUR WIG AGSKDHDJSJS KEEP THAT ON TWITTER AGSJDHSJSJSJS We don't Stan bts here babe and that's tea☕️(emojis)
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Fake Jessica's nose bothers me so much
sorry that’s still racist to hate kpop :/
stan twitter misuses aave all the time
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the totez deep lyrics of that jimin song armys are shitting up twitter with
>I want to be your light baby>You should be your light baby
Mozart is shaking right now.
Are armies seriously eating this garbage up? >>346142
Honestly I don't think he's had anything major, his bone structure looks more or less the same.
Suga's jaw shave was just tragic. Why did he do that to himself?
>>346160>i’m white so i’ll probably be targeted by these cults
are they targeting white people? idk anything about these cults but i live in a country far from sk where asians are in minority and two asian people i know have been targeted by a korean cult. wtf are these creeps even doing here lol, they didn't even speak our language or anything. sorry for ot>>346168
what kind of people do you expect to post in a korea related thread tho
i think they generally go for foreigners and hang around touristy areas like hongdae and stuff.plently of black youtubers have had run ins with these cult members too.
but they do recruit native koreans as well
RIP to a once tolerable thread. It is now a live chat for salty Koreaboos. Hopefully their autism won't leak out onto the rest of /ot/.
Autosage/move to /snow/ when?
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With each passing day they look more and more like meth addicts
I was thinking the same thing. At this point, they're just a cash grab.
With the new bg coming, who knows they're probably way higher than BTS in terms of talent and visuals.
BTS will no longer be Big Hit's priority, but something to keep the company afloat.
I don't think the new group will flop at all. It's like the 1D and 5sos situation, the EXO and NCT one. Girls especially younger girls want to stan and look up to people (or hope to date and fuck someone) who's closer to the age. The younger portion of armys will move on to the new bg, and the older ones will remain old and bitter bc they're oppars never got good treatment.
Especially since Bighead's new formula is "depressed boys who may be gay"
Who knows the new group just might be miles ahead of BTS and they might even all speak English for promoting in the US since there is only 5 members this time around.
I heard the new group debuts in March.
Won't be long till the fall of BTS occurs…
When I was a tween, I thought he was cute because he didn't seem like a try hard, which appealed to my weird ass sensibilities at that time. He was definitely cuter than Kai since he seemed comfortable in his own skin where as Kai seemed like he was being someone he wasn't. >>346255
At some point I could see him doing that, everything has to end at some point.
I think a Chinese court ruled that the order wasn't enforceable as long as they never set foot in Korea? IIRC they only owe SM a share of their Korean earnings and SM contracts anyway give artists a bigger share of foreign income (70-30 internationally).
Not much SM can do in China, they have no power there. It's likely they're not getting anything beyond a token 5% if even that.
Oh my god this thread is nuclear.>>346284
Hyuna always had shitty brows but I guess korean hipsters are just discovering heroin chic. Gross cunts.
The concert tour they were about to go on was supposedly like a goodbye tour for Jessica. The plan was that after the tour, they'd all split up and move onto solo activities, and Red Velvet was supposed to debut around early 2015 then in a changing of the guard (dunno how reliable this is but someone on Allkpop claimed that SM executives were asking music shows to book performance slots for their new girl group slated to debut in early 2015)
Then Kris left and Baekyeon was revealed, so Red Velvet debuted earlier than expected as a distraction.
in 2014-15, every Red Velvet comeback was around the time of some shit going on with SM:
1) August 2014, Happiness - Kris left, Baekhyun and Taeyeon were revealed, Sulli went on "hiatus"
2) October 2014, Be Natural - Jessica and Luhan left
3) March 2015, Ice Cream Cake - Tao was in limbo and had all but left EXO
4) September 2015, Dumb Dumb - Sulli officially announced she was leaving f(x)
kris also left in the middle of a comeback while luhan waited until they weren’t promoting anymore. i remember a lot of exo stans bashing the former because he screwed the other members over and put them in a very messy situation while they respected the latter for not “leaving the group in the ditch” the way kris did.
tao got flack for being a huge hypocrite who threw a clingy tween girl tantrum on social media when kris left only to do the exact same thing shortly after. iirc tao also left around the time exo were supposed to have a comeback making him look like an even bigger hypocrite.
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I actually believe that EXO's situation had not a lot to do with RV's obviously rushed debut. It was more f(x)'s, the fact that a lot of their earlier stuff sounded straight like from the Electric Shock album speaks for this and the trainees in the Happiness MV were kind of hinting at an NCT-like concept. I guess when SM realized SNSD and f(x) were over they weren't up for experiments anymore, added Yeri and called it a day.
There was a theory that they'd branch off into subunits called Blue Velvet and Yellow Velvet (topkek). The Red/Velvet concept dichotomy was also kind of thrown together last minute to explain the group name when it was glaringly obvious that SM had no fucking clue what to do with them and didn't want Irene and Seulgi to leave.>>346291
You should have seen the comments under their debut announcement tweets and videos, 50% of them were f(x) fans whining about lack of proper treatment and the other 50% were SNSD and EXO fans demanding an explanation from SM instead of debuting a new group.
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Panda express shamefully using bts for clout
really? LMFAOOOOO. I don't think they should of added her
She brings nothing to the group.
I honestly don't remember where it came up but a few years ago I remember reading or watching and AMA by a confirmed male ex-trainee. It's funny but he used almost the same words as >>346325
that she debuted before her time, didn't stand out at all among other trainees, and brought nothing but weight to the group.
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Jennie’s undeniably cute at the very least but she pretty much looks SEA. If she weren’t actually Korean, she’d get shit on more for her looks and wouldn’t get as much special treatment as she does. No way would SK’s xenophobic ass accept an SEA-passing chick as the face of a group.>>346340
I feel like Irene wants to quit being an idol more than Joy does and would be the first to go. She’s in her late twenties and is in a group that performs with childish concepts. She’s basically RV’s visual ace but the oher members outperform her in every way, so so it’d be understandable for her to leave after some more CF deals transition into modeling.
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Hong Jin-young got so much work done to align her looks more with SK’s cute, doe-eyed alien ideal. She already looked great before and now she straight-up looks like a Gangnam unnie.
Depression and mental health in general is still taboo in SK, so that doesn't make sense.
In SK a depressed person is the same as an insane person.
anon we need some context here wtf
also who are dzw
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I'm fucking retarded and uploaded it in the wrong order but yeah
they weren't photoshopped, there are pics from fansites and it's visible on the photo bighit posted too. he was also wearing bands around his wrist during that time. maybe he got these marks from an accident or something but i don't understand how fans completely disregarded the rumors, it's concerning>>346392
it sounds fucked up, i hope there wasn't any intention like that
and totally understand where >>346396
is coming from, I completely forgot that depression is still taboo over in SK since I've been outside the KPOP scene for a couple of years. My initial thinking was because they were popular in the US that BH would pivot to what would appeal to the sad gurls over here, which mostly consists of identifying with celebrities that they have something in common with. Again, I have no proof, but it wouldn't surprise me since the main goal of a company is to make money and maintain a favorable public image, ethics will always take a backseat>>346420
Yeah, I remember hearing about that too before Jonghyun killed himself.
The way Jang Wonyoung is being pushed makes me concerned. So many weirdos out there sexualizing her despite being fourteen or so. Makes me wonder how her parents are okay with this.>>346441
Irene and Yeri are obvious but who’s the third one? Also you could say the same about BlackPink actually and they have one fewer member.
we didn’t want to worry or upset anyone since it’s a triggering
topic so we mainly discussed it in dms and didn’t post publicly, especially because we couldn’t be sure if they were self harm or not
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Well said. Yeri’s strongest areas as an entertainer is visuals and variety, but Irene blows her and the rest of RV out of the water visually and Joy’s better at variety.
Unrelated but do any of you guys remember Yeri talking about how uncomfortable she was by the closeup of her cleavage in the Ice Cream Cake music video? Keep in mind that she was sixteen or so at the time and, unsurprisingly, this was all brushed off later. Makes me disturbed about the shit that she might have to deal with behind the scenes.
also we figured that it’s his personal business, at the end of the day, so we shouldn’t get involved. knowing armies they’d trend a hashtag or something which would do more harm than good.
jungkooks grown up in the spotlight with his teenage years on display to crazy fans so i think it’s a courtesy to him that we overlooked this
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Depends on who you ask but nobody seems to be willing to actually tell what they know.
It goes back quite a ways and became very obvious, and idk what happened in like..2012 but that seemed to be when people at soshified started dropping hints that something was up.
Maybe Soy should come out and say what she knows since she literally posted that jessica was a bitch not long before she got "kicked" and then tried to backtrack when people realized it was Jessica she was talking about.
Inb4 accusations of fanfiction again because people want to play dumb and act like their uWu 9 queens got along 24/7 and OT9 is some magical unbreakable thing lmao.
and i’d rather that instead of them going off pretending to be psychologists and trending hashtags and shit and alerting media outlets.
from what i’ve seen fans who have self harmed were kinda like ‘yeah i’m not going to point out the obvious’
and fans without that history chose to live in denial which is fine. don’t want them to realise that their precious oppa has actual feelings and stuff
army were the ones who thought trying to trend a hashtag following the death of taehyungs grandma was a good idea so i think my opinion is warranted.
ignoring it was probably the best way to go ??
>>346510>literally outing yourself as an armyfag from twitter
What do you want everyone to say though? Boy cut himself. We established this like four threads ago.
If there were any people would've posted them. Either search them up yourself or drop the topic.>>346530
You‘re the one bragging to us about how selflessly you and your army buddies were by not talking about it publicly though. >>346542
That was a reach. The most likely thing was he cut himself for whatever reason, it went unnoticed/ignored until fans started commenting on it and was hidden since then. Keep in mind the homemasters and kfans in general stand in closer contact with bighit than ifans and are incredibly good at hiding shit.
Can't BigHit just make BTS gay? I'm sure they could make them kiss in public, even marry, and it would be all covered by the contract lmao
A company taking the fanservice to more irl extremes would be hilarious though, I hope Korea get's infested by tumblr sjws just to enjoy the aberrations they would come out with to sell more albums.
that's the point anon. armies are making him out to be some ethereal god that outshines all others but he literally looks disgusting. there's so many other male kpop idols that i'd choose over tae-scusting as a top visual, but for some reason his photoshopped pics are getting memed as such.>>346640
idk why this is even a trend. i'd take some ugly early 2000s trend over that shit.
For all newfags personally butthurt at us making fun of Rape Monster, here's the link to the Kpop General thread: >>301262
Go there and leave us alone
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Mods are probably asleep rn they'll take care of it later hopefully. In the meantime, ignore tham and talk about other idols instead.>>346528
Tzuyu's eyebrows are unfortunate, they used to be much higher (pic related) and have been whittled down to nothing. Straight brows don't always look good on everyone.
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Does this show up better
Lucas was already naturally handsome but they insist on fucking up his face more and more - in every public appearance he has his lips and eyebrows blurred out with foundation and I don't doubt he's begun to do some Botox here and there. Tragic>>346693
I think he actually is gay, some people you can tell just by looking at them
Apparently they're under "Label V", and not explicitly SM Entertainment. Is there a reason for that? Is SM's name dirt now in China after what they did to the ex-EXO members?
Also the new group name doesn't have NCT in it at all; maybe this is a permanent lineup which will stay in China. Winwin might promote fulltime in this group now and leave 127 permanently - good for him, he now has a shot at fame in his own country I guess.
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Probably Jennie and someone in YG>>346860
She was there, she just had to stay backstage because the artists seating area only allowed 15 people at a time. Her dress was horrifically ugly and that might have been a punishment for the dating?
Also conspiracy theory time: if it is Irene, maybe this dating scandal is SM's way of pushing Red Velvet aside so their new girl group can take over
what do you mean? i'm literally watching RV's performance at mbc gayo right now.
Irene is cosplaying as the cookie monster for some reason.
i dont even think they are gaybaiting, the guys seem very straight to me. sure the ramp up the touching for fanservice but thats it, they dont have them allude to being gay
to think what they did to t.A.T.u… this is literally nothing
Exo is still selling a million+ albums per comeback and TVXQ sold out a 500,000 Nissan Stadium concert. Not to mention Yoona and Taeyeon going strong and Red Velvet doing well.
SM has a lot more revenue sources than Big Hit, they will be fine for now. Their only concern is NCT flopping.
i feel like his name is almost a euphemism now that i know this information.>>346920
i hate how kpop fans have managed to make every number a competition. even the most irrelevant things are a competition. bunch of losers.
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Jaehyun is by far one of the most popular members (rivaled only by maybe Taeyong and Mark) and has a ton of akgaes too. I’d say those three are the most likely to compete with Winwin. Yukhei doesn’t seem as popular in Korea as he is internationally but I could be wrong.
The Boss lineup seemed very successful; I can’t imagine any of them would be on the lower half of that list.
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wasn’t sure if this should go here or in the general thread but since we’ve been discussing their beef during the last few threads —
after years of pettiness and silent treatment, tao and kris are apparently friends again.
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The anon who said he got bad botox was probably right, but other than that he looks the same. Attached pic is from less than a week ago
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if this is true i'm kind of surprised bighit even has a female producer
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The top looks so unfortunate and ridiculous. I'd be so damn embarassed if I were her. I get that she's the center but they really didn't have to make her wear that thing just to make her stand out… the others wore normal dark stage outfits suitable for the song. That spandex top looks cheap btw. It's like they forgot to bring Irene's stage dress and just took whatever available in the dressing room.
what’s her appeal again? she looks extremely average by kpop standards, yeri and joy are far prettier than her, seulgi has more charisma and wendy has the best voice + used to be prettier before sm fucked her up with surgery.
whenever western fans cream their pants over irene’s ~visuals~ i automatically assume they’re koreaboos who follow whatever kfans do because by western standards she’s average as fuck.
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I disagree about Nana. She has a strong jaw compared to what koreans usually like.
Anons got angry at me for saying that tho but I always thought Yeri is the prettiest of RV.
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RIP in pieces Blackpink
I guess she wasn't going SOLOLOLO after all
All the major outlets have jumped on this story within the past 20 mins. I guess there's no denying it?
Don't really know if all these "breaking" dating stories always turn out to be true beyond the initial reports though. Do you guys think YG and SM were previously aware of this?
lmao soompi crashed, I can't access their news section at all
any first impressions from blinks or exo-l's?
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the commenters are literally saying what i thought. i want another one too LOL. jennie x kai just doesn't bring enough milk for me.
it could be though I don't know if YG would agree to that. >>347101
imo most idol couples aren't that interesting after the first reveal because they barely acknowledge each other so fans don't get mad. other than Hyuna and E'dawn I guess.
this looks awesome tbh
i like that he answers delusional kpop fan retards who think their precious oppas and unnies are relevant and actually matter in the grand scheme of things
that would make me feel bad for twice
bighit will fuck up hard once they start to run out of money and don't get along with them anymore
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Well well, looks like Jennie isn't going solo after all
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I find this really interesting. There was some speculation earlier itt about SM idols current profitability.
I saw the JYP 2.0 conference thing and since then I've been thinking of investing in the more successful kpop companies (I currently only have investments with local companies thru my bank) but this post has thrown me off from believing the kpop hype and pretending to understand the business world outside of my country lmao.
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Blinks and their obsession with shipping lesbian relationships in blackpink is fucking pathetic and disgusting. I don’t understand the amount of gay shipping in kpop in general tbh it’s so strange to me.
you haven't even seen twice fangirls if this triggers
u. it's not "blinks", it's lesbians.
reminds me of "lchat"
I am not a lesbian but i went there to steal their pics and gifs all the time. But they were OBSESSED with kpop idols being lesbians especially SNSD. Its extremely embarrassing. I havent been there in years so Idk if it even still exists but if it does you guys should definitely go into the archives and read between 2010-2013ish. Its disturbing and pathetic how hard they really believe everyone is a lesbian in kpop and take it seriously.
twitter stans will call a female idol a lesbian icon for sitting with her legs slightly apart, wearing a women’s suit, mentioning any female celebrity in any context not fitting beauty standards, fitting beauty standards perfectly, anything. i didn’t mind it until i realised some of them are completely serious about their beliefs and aren’t just joking or speculating a bit.
the worst for me is still when fans trying to prove uwu queer idols just end up playing into negative stereotypes like lesbians being predatory and out to harass every woman they see. sana’s been mentioned before as being bad for this, she’s one of the idols who’ll grab and stroke at and pretend to kiss another member who looks anywhere from mildly annoyed to genuinely uncomfortable. they also love using hani as an example of a lesbian idol because she was obsessed with one of the underage oh my girl members and kept talking about how much she wanted to date her. when she was on weekly idol she’d gawk at underage girls all the time, she’s a creep. and then she was dating xia for a while but that didn’t change anything
I wonder how many idols actually start out as saesangs.
I know that trinity girl was one and she got kicked from GLAM because of it, and Jisoo was writing fanfiction about raping some male idols before Lovelyz, but Im sure theres more.
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>reading post about jennies dog apparently being named kai
>a few rational people explaining the dog is 8 years old and cant be named after kai from exo
>this is a reply
this is like his second dating scandal
i honestly think he's the gay idol everyone keeps talking about
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Accidentally saw this on youtube
idk i mean that gay idol couple blind item mentioned they are in the same popular group
a week after, kaistal news dropped
just this month the blind item got mentioned again on pann
now jennie and kai news got dropped
>>347287>YG isn’t stupid, he knows blackpink is the money maker and he’s not going to ruin them over this
2NE1 were a money maker to YG until they weren't just saying. YG absolutely does not give one fuck about Blackpink unless he needs their YouTube statistics to trot out. He didn't even post Jennie's first music show win on Instagram where he posted Mino's second place finish. He's going to use this as an excuse to delay their comeback for sure.
>They had to know about it bc they were obvi contacted prior to the leak with a chance to stop it, he didn’t gaf lol
Dispatch says the female idol's agency couldn't come to an agreement with them, so YG (the agency, not the guy) absolutely did try to stop it. It didn't work out because Dispatch and YG have always been on bad terms.
i don't want to be like "NO gay ship can ever be real ALL idols are STRAIGHT and you all are delulu" because it's close minded and i mean sure, there might be lgb idols but i really, really doubt that most of the popular ships like chanbaek, kaisoo, seulrene, jenlisa, michaeng, jikook, vkook that shippers believe in till death are real. if two members of the same group were dating and broke up, it would completely fuck the group up. i think if that rumor is actually true, it's probably a duo that most people would be surprised with
Ah, I wasn’t aware of this. Thanks for the insight/info.
I always felt like blinks on twitter were over exaggerating the way YG treats the girl groups and blackpink. I’m new to this world I need to do more digging lol.
Half of the blink fanbase were also blackjacks before, so they know. Being pretty isn't going to stop YG from tanking Blackpink if he wishes, because time and time again he's shown that he does not give one fuck about women under his company.
SM confirmed the dating news right away because they do not give a fuck, while YGE has yet to put out an official statement beyond "we're looking into this", which means they're scrambling to deal with YG sperging out.
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I don't know what Krystal, Jennie, or Kai's fans see in Kai and his caved-in nose. Just look at that botched nose job, he absolutely has to be a mouth breather by now.
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This guy has a potato nose. Jennie has terrible taste. I agree that this “milk” is boring. Hopefully dispatch or whatever will reveal more interesting idol couples because exo is dead anyways. Would’ve preferred a bts member so I could watch armies and blinks fight.
Anyone else remember the Rat Monster x Taylor Swift dating rumors?
I wish it were true. Imagine that.
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bts apparently blocked someone on twitter because they were talking shit about rm and jimin?? lmao
He's either in the cult or has views so similar to it that he may as well be.
Bogum is that cult's golden boy. As a rule, cults don't allow their members to socialize with regular sane people anyway, let alone their prized members who they've groomed from birth. One of the defining features of cults is that they cut you off from anyone not in the cult, but people believe Bogum is allowed to just be best friends with V anyway? V's either already in the cult or about to be.
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they are either getting paid to avoid scandals or bts are really celibate as fuck
officially they did but they're still going to events together until their final concert.>>347398
they could be celibate but I doubt it. it's kinda obvious that bighit is paying them to stay quiet either way.
SM used to stage/leak relationships amongst their own idols but I never really got why, just knew people had been saying it like it was fact. I don’t know if it was an any attention is good attention thing or what because they used to do it with SNSD members when they were new and make sure certain pairings got attention, like Junsu and Taeyeon, or Leeteuk and Taeyeon, or Baekhyun and Taeyeon. Other couples that had more evidence to make it seem likely, like Jaejoong and Jessica, the jaw couple, were kept more quiet so it did seem like there was some kind of planning behind it.
Yeri and Taeyong has been a rumour for a while, think SM might have sacrificed one more established idol instead of two newer ones?
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Who knows… but their pose here are so unnatural lmao. It's like some screencap from a K-drama's behind the scene. Not to mention they look dumb as well.
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Sorry wrong pic. This is what i refer to as "kdrama's bts".
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I think they are trying too hard to sexualize yeri with the cleavage thing since it seems to be the only thing they can sell from her, considering her fridge body.
I was like eww when I saw this pic. It's not sexy or daring or anything, just awkward af.
You forgot about Lucas, Dino from Seventeen and Jaemin.
She really does have the most annoying fans. It reminds me of how Apink's fans used to try and push them with every boyband under the sun.
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The Yeri/Taeyong (and Yeri/Jaehyun, Yeri/Lucas, Yeri/Mark and so on) rumors come from some post made by a nobody claiming to be an insider "leaking" dating secrets. In it, she said Yeri was dating a NCT member and Irene was dating a famous actor.
The same post said Jennie was dating a non-celebrity and Kai was dating a nugu girlgroup member nobody had ever heard of, so everyone else has written off the post as bullshit now except for Yeri's stans.
they just take an idol they relate to, take their fave and make it a couple. like southeast asian fans relate to lisa and ship her with whatever male idol they find attractive, fans who are insecure about other women ship oppar
with another oppar
they find relatable. straight or gay shipping, it's all about self-insertion
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god i hope twice are dating
imagine the fallout from their male fans
The Korean general public could not give less of a fuck about anyone on that list, even Kai and Jennie aren't generating much buzz.
For the GP to care it'd have to be something big, like a female idol being the mistress of Moon Jae-in or something.
I guess it's kind of a tie right now. BTS have caught on with the general public because Koreans get off on the thought that the West now cares about them, and feel like BTS has made it so Korea is finally taken seriously by America.
However, when it comes to the individual members instead of BTS as just one homogenous soft power group, Daniel is definitely more popular than any individual BTS member.
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lol you know a bts fan wrote this since the description fits all their uwu popular ships
but i've seen a lot of people on twitter discussing about it too, where is all this "one of the couples dispatch's going to reveal is a same-sex couple" thing coming from? now that kai and jennie's relationship has been made public everyone is making up shit to theorize about their ships. even if dispatch has information on a gay couple, these idols would go through a lot of shit in sk and their careers would be ruined
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Kek BP really is 2ne1 2.0
Dispatch once said that if they were to uncover a same-sex couple they would not release the information out of respect, since it would have a far greater effect than regular dating news.
Fujoshis have taken this to mean that they actually did find a same-sex couple and it must be Baekyeol/Vkook/whatever other m/m ship is the new hotness currently.
kai's bandmate is literally running around, publicly saying that he loves men and shamelessly posting pics with his sugar daddy. even though the baekyeon situation was sus, i don't think big kpop companies make their artists have beards or go to great measures to hide their sexuality. there are probably a lot of kpop idols who are closeted and choose to date the other sex because of homophobia, but talking about them is pointless.
i don't think any of his dating scandals are intentional. the one he had with krystal was the "worst" one, so because he already has had one dating scandal it isn't as shocking the second time around. black pink don't appeal to possessive male fans (like twice or izone), a dating scandal won't make them lose an impactful amount of fans. i don't think kai nor jennie had much to lose, or gain, from this. if one of the non-korean twice members were dating one of the most popular bts members the situation would most likely have impacted both of the groups very negatively. kpop fangirls love to live through the female idols their oppas interact with, until they actually start dating them for real.
also don't forget an insider said sm was planning on pairing up kai or sehun with krystal back in 2012 and it actually happened
Not to mention it really seems as if all the newer groups are uninspired and boring af.
Everyone looks the same i can barely recognize anyone because they have a new face everytime i see them and all the faces just melt together into one big prototype blur.
No one stands out. Variety is boring as shit and no idol actually seems to have a personality thats not scripted to hell. I feel sorry for anyone who became a fan of kpop after like..2014ish. AOA was the last "new" group I was really interested in and they're RIP. I liked Hello Venus when they redebuted and released some good dance pop but they died out too. There was a lot of different stuff and experimentation with different sounds. Lots of colorful outfits, videos and stage presence. Now if you like girl groups and want anything other than saccharine sweet pedo bait bullshit, your only option is like..Black Pink, Mamamoo, Dreamcatcher and Exid. No thanks. Red Velvet is kinda ok but they arent idol like at all in comparison to girl groups before them. And dont even get me started on plastic basic boring ass boy groups with their struggle vocals and lackluster dance skills.
do guys actually get off to being called oppa?
is that like the "daddy" thing of korea? i'd always thought it was really creepy to call your boyfriend oppa in a sexual way
yes and no
i know the younger generations have really sexualized the term whilst older generations find it weird that it's being used in a sexual way and some even find it weird when used too much in a romantic way
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i haven't heard that name in years LMAO
She was such a weirdo sperg lmao.
HAY GUIZZE I BUY EVERYTHING MICKEY I SEE BECAUSE YURI LOVES MICKEY MOUSEZ HAHA SHES A REAL LESBIAN I SWEAR I WOULD KNOW BECAUSE I AM TOOZ I AM NOT A STALKER LIKE THOSE OTHERZ BUT OMGZ ONE TIME I SAW HER ON THE STREET AND SHE SMILED AT ME I SWEARZ ILL MARRY HER!!11
Its a shame snsd isnt a thing anymore because their fans were just as milky back in the day as Armys.
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Everytime Twice pops up on my newsfeed Sana’s face just irritates the fuck out of me. Its just so punchable.
Don't know how old he is but he shits on teen fangirls blindly defending male idols while being a staunch defender of female idols he himself finds attractive - like just admit you're defending their lack of talent because you want to fuck them and go. There definitely are times when fangirl defense gets way out of control, but he just preaches way too much.
Kpopalypse is even worse because he has this deep-seated hatred for R&B and automatically rates R&B songs lower. He hates good singers for some reason because their vocals "don't allow producers to make good melodies" or something. He's also extremely triggered
over Reddit not liking him, and screenshots "hate" comments from years ago to include in his blogs as proof that he's better than the plebs on Reddit.
They're both well in their 30s/40s and acting like teenagers over K-pop while shitting on actual teenagers. Embarrassing.
I thought he was in his twenties but I have no clue.>>347865
that reminds me of one of his devout commenters that posts sexist jokes on reddit to "troll" and then comments in other threads saying he wants women in the kpop industry to be respected and treated equally. and of course he's a kpopfap regular
I still remember that anti-snsd forum who had an admin called Zoy lmao
Didn't Soshified make so much money from donations that they had full-time staff? I heard that soy just lived off the site's profit for a while. They were definitely the most intense international kpop fan forum for years. Does anyone know what's happened with her in recent years?
I'm not sure if we're talking about the same commenter, but one of his devout followers is a Kpopfap regular and a huge defender of Twice and JYP in general - I lurk the Kpop subreddit and this dude writes paragraphs upon paragraphs explaining why Twice is not just uncle pedobait and is actually top tier music and why JYP is the best company of the Big 3.
Then in a Blackpink/YG thread he calls Blackpink's music dated and unoriginal and writes loads about why YG is horrible. He whined and bitched about Twice not getting #1 on all charts, but still tells everyone else to not take Kpop that seriously.
The cognitive dissonance between his comments is startling.
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Kpopalypse’s followers have screenshotted the shit we’ve said in previous kpop critical threads and has even brought up lolcow in his blog posts. He really can’t let anything go. I actually agree with a lot of his opinions on music but god damn he has some fucking nuclear takes (i.e frenchface)
Twice does seem like the most overworked group in the industry right now. Just thinking about the amount of releases/concerts/promotions they've had in the last year or two gives me anxiety.
Which member was crying to the fans about it?
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Why is this a thing
It's a xenophobic soft power thing. Other Korean groups make some effort to learn English when they try to break the West. There's dudes in Monsta X who seem to be halfway to fluent by now despite making next to no headway in actually breaking America.
BTS don't bother because Big Hit are hung up on pushing this idea that it's America who wants BTS, not the other way around. They desperately want to make people believe that BTS only bother with the West because people keep begging them to come here, even though BTS spent millions rebranding themselves to appeal more to an American audience.
I get being annoyed at the hypocrisy of it, but I can't help but be somewhat warmed by the fact that BTS doesn't HAVE to speak English to make it as far as they have in the west.
Especially with previous track records of companies trying to breach the western market by forcing their idols to sing full songs in English. It always sounds so fucked up and unnatural.
Asianjunkie can barely be considered journalism, literally all his articles are are him copying+pasting translated stuff from netizenbuzz and then putting something like "IDK guys, on one hand it's x, on the other hand it's y". Extremely bland.>>347923
This has been discussed before. Speaking korean is part of their appeal. If their stans wanted something in english they would've waited for 1D to come back from the dead LMFAO>>347933
Because you going to Korea, expecting to be handed free asian dick just for being a foreigner without speaking the language is the same as slaving away in schools and tutoring to memorize shit to pass your university entry exams is totally the same. >>347934>xenophobic soft power thing
> it's America who wants BTS, not the other way around.
Half true. BTS and Korea want the American recognition (don't believe what they and their stans say about this) but western outlets have long realized how much money can be made off of them. They don't even need to put in effort - just ask them "What's your favorite place to visit in America?", film it and put it on YouTube and you're done. Every generation needs its boygroup and this one's is BTS.
Yeah. This can be said for literally anything though.>>347940>I got BTFO on PULL so now I post in the Kpop Critical on lolcow.farm because I can say "retard" there!
Now I know why this thread is so shit. We've got bitter ex-PULLtards in here.
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I'm familiar with Cookie, I have several friends who used to be big JJCC fans and told me about her. It was a small fandom so she was able to get a lot of influence just because she ran a fanpage for them.
It got to the point a member of JJCC's agency posted on their official Facebook about her, but she still carried on being crazy.
According to her she managed to track one of the members, Mak, via GPS on his phone (I don't see how this is possible without her having access to her phone so I personally think she was just being delusional) and became angry when she looked at the tracker and it appeared to be in the middle of nowhere. She posted a lot of weird updates on her fanpage threatening him about it and asking where the fuck he was. This, combined with Mak supposedly being rude to her (she never really gave concrete details) one time, made her furious with him and she started using her fanpage and social media accounts to harass him. Eventually the JJCC account just blocked her, which led to her going crazy over that and Mak messaging her telling her to cool her shit.
There's a ton more, AsianJunkie collected some of it if you want to enjoy the milk:http://www.asianjunkie.com/2015/10/05/jjccrania-fandom-destroyer-is-back-and-harassing-prince-mak-and-his-ex-gf/
Lmao I’m the op and am Korean myself, just born in a different country. I couldn’t care less about Korean males and their tiny dicks, I came here because of my family when I was 16 and learned the language in a year.
Seoul reeks of and looks like shit btw and most Koreans are mentally handicapped imbeciles whose only redeeming quality is being able to drink 15 bottles of soju. If any of you Koreaboos want to visit this place I’m praying for you in advance, I swear I’ve been to third world countries more civilized than this shithole.
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this is one of her most recent posts, to answer your question lmao
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There's been some minor slapfighting when people pointed out that some of Jennie's behaviour has been a bit "I'm 13 and this is my first relationship" cringy and her fans have gotten mad and insisted it isn't and you're a misogynist if you say it is. Gif very much related.
Korean exo-ls and blinks are sperging out about dispatch "harrassing"them and has started a national petition in order to punish dispatch lolhttp://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2019/01/fans-start-national-petition-over.html
Funny things is that the dispatch 1/1 couple is a huge fucking thing that lots of people "look forward" to, both K-fans and international fans, but when it involves your bias it's suddenly harrasment lol
>>347983> accusing her of being YG's sugarbaby
Yeah that's only people in this thread believing this though.
Jennie gains nothing from this. If anything, this proves her being incredibly childish and not taking idoldom too seriously.
I don't understand why everyone is feeling bad for the other girls though, they probably date too and are feeling lucky that they haven't gotten found out.
Dating scandals in kpop are such a meme.
I’ve seen comments like that in a few different places, actually. YG is the most hated guy in kpop rn despite not being much shadier than any of the other big CEOs, so places like r/kpop take any reason to insist he keeps BlackPink chained to a wall. I swear only a year ago people praised the way YG handled GD’s dating rumours by just saying “we don’t know, it’s his private business, we’re not going to confirm an idol’s personal life” but doing the same over Jennie means he’s actually jealous and in love with her and deleting all of their demos as we speak.
In general getting caught in a dating scandal in your first 3 years is the only time they’ll really cause a problem. All the dating bans, either official or unofficial (even the official ones are more like “don’t get caught”, not “don’t date”) last for about 3 years for a reason.
That's so dumb lol. Don't all of BP come from wealthy families? The most likely thing is that they keep the company afloat and in return their daughters get to play celebrity. If anything, YG is THEIR sugarbaby.
Nah, it all depends on popularity and with whom they get caught "dating".
For example that situation with Uee and Gangnam.
Imagine living in a country that's so hypocritically uptight about things like one-night-stands that you have to pretend to date your fuckbuddy, only to "break up" after 3 months LOL.
Or the IU/Eunhyuk thing. I'm actually very impressed how IU managed to recover, bitter ELFs were trying their very best to destroy her career for a while after that and now she's basically untouchable.
what the fuck is this actual article lol
i acknowledge that big companies abuse their power but this shit is just straight up pandering to BTS and their fans
that’s the funny part about the fans though
if you look at the ages on there, it’s mostly woman in their 40s
like what is the deal
Why do armys always feel entitled to everything? I get that BTS are the biggest kpop act in the world right now, but them going all like "bts are the first to sell arenas world wide and chart on the billboard" etc etc etc is all fucking lies .. Bigbang did it years ago. The only thing BTS has done that bigbang hasn't is being a regular guest on the fucking ellen show.
I don't care for either of the groups, but i fucking hate the army fandom.
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i really refuse to believe that anyone who seriously gets involved in these exo vs bts fights is over the age of 16 yet kpop fans who are going through midlife crises keep surprising me. there seem to be a lot of +30 fans on stan twitter too, middle aged men and women obsessing over kpop groups is even more painfully cringy than the young fans because you know most of the young fans are going to grow out of it
God I can't wait for bigbang to come back. As a person with a neutral opinion on both, this is gonna be so good: either BTS continue to dominate and bigbang will get exposed as old hags and VIPs will implode, or bigbang will reclaim their position as koreas #1 and ARMYs will implode. I'm eagerly anticipating either uwu>>348050>i think armies are insecure
Could've ended the sentence there tbh lol.
I thought TOP still got hate after the marijuana scandal. Same with Daesung and the traffic accident thing.
I honestly can't see Big Bang still #1.
starting to think its staged for real now tbh
its such an obvious thing to do if you're in a secret relationship
i'm not sure when the gif is from, i guess probably a month or two ago since it seems to be from during jennie's solo promos?
people pointed out suho instantly made a huge deal out of jennie's presence by leaping around next to her, which i guess you could see two ways: a) he was trying to draw attention away from the fact she'd moved to stand next to kai or b) he was trying to draw attention TO her proximity by taking the focus off the hosts.
i think it's probably option a though.
well a lot of times those relationships caused a lot of controversy, especially big bang
now most big bang fans are older and more mature and the group doesnt have the hype it really used to but in their day, it definitely wasnt welcomed warmly when one of them were dating especially considering they liked non famous and or foreign girls so much
imagine if a bts dated a japanese girl
that will give you an idea of how netizens reacted to g dragon and his penchant for japanese girls lol
seungri hooked up with some jap model too i think and that was a huge thing
relationships for big groups are still pretty rare when you consider that there’s far more attention on them, meaning less room to hide. i don’t know much about super junior so i can’t say for them, but bigbang’s only member to consistently have dating scandals was gdragon, and that was mostly just with kiko mizuhara. taeyang’s had one, and they ended up getting married. seungri had the pictures of him leaked, but other than that it’s mostly just known that he dates a lot, not who he dates. and top aside from the trainee girl just had shin min ah, and that was only known because he reportedly tried to kill himself after he broke up with her.
exo’s only confirmed relationships have been kai (two times) and baekhyun, right? do had rumours with a girls day member for ages, but that’s still not a lot of scandals for a big group. tvxq only really had rumours, which was changmin and victoria, and i think some people actually believed go ara and yunho. i’m only talking about the two members, but they’re 15 years into debut and haven’t had a single confirmed public relationship since debut. it was one of the ex members who got caught on tape saying every time he got a girlfriend, obsessive fans would threaten and harass her and they’d break up soon anyway.
yep, and exo has had scandals too so it really shouldnt come as a surprise when a group doesnt want fans to know they are dating or having sexual relations with people
the female almost always gets the brunt of it, with literal death threats and harassment from fans
I think they are done for as a group tbh. Seungri still hasn't enlisted in the army, so when they will finally be able to gather again as complete group TOP will be in the middle of his thirties. They will be too old and have been off the market for too long to still be relevant.
Hopefully the same will happen to BTS. Considering that the age gap between the youngest and the oldest in the group is like 4 or 5 years, they will probably enlist on different times as well and they will fade into irrelevancy because the group won't be together for a long time.
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>>348127>I think they are done for as a group tbh.
I think so too. Maybe one last single and big money reunion tour and they're done. Seungri knows BIGBANG's mostly over, that's why he's not rushing to enlist, he's milking his relevance as BIGBANG member while he still can.
Daesung has a party trot hit in him, think pre-Gangnam style Psy
GD aside Taeyang seems most interested in putting out music, but his last album showed he can flop hard with both general public and the fanbase
Seugri's goner, he's everyone's least favorite BB member and he knows it
TOP ??? does he want to stay in public eye? He never established solo music career, acted in one random project every other year without much impact, can't count on CFs after scandal. We have no idea about his mental and physical health (the man had 2 overdoses and heavy drinking habit, his poor liver)
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this gif of rose is frightening..
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kinda a silly question but do you guys think that idols actually do spend ~hours and hours and hours~ learning choreography, or are they exaggerating? part of me thinks that since a lot of them don't have a natural talent for dance, they have to practice a lot to be decent (while the backup dancers are most likely trained in dance and therefore can perform it better even with less practice)
or in reality they don't really practice that much and that's why they're so bad at dancing
Eh I doubt it'd be anything more than pot tbh, that all drug scandals ever seem to be for.
But rat definitely done it before, he was part of the DNH crew predebut, and all of the members got bust except supremeboi (and rat but he wasn't a member any more since BTS already debuted). Alot of people think that bighit kept Supremeboi from getting in trouble, so it wouldn't be a that big of a stretch to say the same for rat.
Honestly though, it wouldn't surprise me if alot of the idol rapper types lit up every now and then, since they're always the ones who try to imitate American rappers and act like they're clouty
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part 2 of BTS looking like demons
Am I the only one who find a kpop act kind of weird at a western festival? The audience dynamic is going to be completely different from what happens at kpop concerts
can't say i don't enjoy that army salt though
Hyukoh and Jambinai will be there too, so I don't think it's specifically K-pop? Epik High performed at Coachella in 2016 as well.
Blackpink are signed to Interscope which organizes Coachella so this could be part of their US promo deal
And found salty Blink.
Tbh I actually loathe BTS and kpop overall. It's just pretty much inescapable at this point. Btw I'd probably have an even stronger negative reaction if it were Rapemon and the Reptiles.
I just happen to think that BP are also completely worthless as a group and would prefer it if they confined their shittiness to their own country.
Most of their YouTube views come from the SEA and not the west so I wouldn't take that as any metric of success. English skills aren't a guarantee of success either - if they were, American citizens like Jay Park and Ailee wouldn't be forced to come to Korea to make a music career.
Korea's lookism (stanning Black pink because they're pretty and wear pricey clothes) won't work in America when Rose sounds like a dying cat, Lisa dances like a spastic, Jennie can't be fucked to do anything and Jisoo is just there.
Authenticity is a big factor for American audiences to like artists beyond using them as a one-off gimmick; BTS is only covered by the media because their schtick is that they're "not like those manufactured K-pop groups" because they write their own songs. BP doesn't have that going for them.
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Damn chung ha is scary.
Does anyone know why she was chosen to do a solo act instead of becoming a member of some gg? To me she's not on Ailee's or Lee Hi's level of solo act (even Seulgi is better I think). I never followed neither produce 101 nor IOI.
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yg has nothing to be salty over bighit lol
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bg stans furiously bashing any woman who interacts with their oppars are a special brand of pathetic
armys have made entire compilations of smol innocent bbyboi jungkook being “””shy””” around female idols but anyone with half a brain could figure out he’s completely justified being wary around women since he knows how insane his stans are
there was that one time bts took pics with jhope’s sister’s friend and shatmys went completely batshit and attacked her until she had to delete her ig because they’re so damn insecure about other women actually having a chance with their oppars
>>348458>sadistic alpha male dom daddy
the cringey braindead 13-year-olds>uwu pure innocent bottom little baby
the gross ageplayers
jungkook really got dealt a bad hand when it comes to his fans lol
Your not wrong. He once said he couldn't wear baggy jeans like he wanted because fans don't like them so he clearly cares too much about what they think.
I think if anyone were to have a dating/sex scandal it would be V, he constantly going on about how he does what he wants, so I don't see why he would stop himself when it comes to women.
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lol if anything, v gives me fuckboy vibeshttp://ktaebwi.tumblr.com/post/152551393372>You look pretty but you’re a good girl
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long back mcgee
If this were any other man and not an idol girls would think this behavior was creepy. It seems like the fan was uncomfortable by the way she responded to him. Is this what armys find endearing?>>348485
More like no ass mcgee
she still looks curvier than jisoo>>348470
whenever i read about interactions with idols at fansigns, it always seems so fucking cringey
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luna's new face is so fucking ugly
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during the 4 walls era.
Sulli has been doing softcore porn, Krystal is an irrevelant depressed model, Amber will probably troon out at some point and Luna is ana. Victoria seems the best adjusted/succesful out of the bunch, wonder if it has anything to do with the fact she wasn't forced in the industry when she was a very young teen like the other girls.
they probably had plans for her to be in a gg after one solo maybe but she ended up hitting it big lol
she can both dance and sing plus has good stage presence which is what people expect in soloists
they also probably saw how the other p101 girls were flopping in their groups so they went on promoting her solo instead
look at most of the wanna one members now, their companies are making them go solo instead to avoid failed groups
Surgery can only help so much. Even if she rearranges her whole face she's never going to have the facial features of Krystal and Sulli, which is the kind of beauty Koreans like. Personally I think Luna was pretty cute naturally, stylists just didn't know how to work with her darker skin and gave her the worst makeup which made her look worse.
Her solo back then was also EDM, which is a hard sell for a solo artist. Korean general public lost interest in her and she's doing musicals now to cover the bills. I doubt this new song will do all that well either. >>348515
Krystal's dramas did pretty well but she doesn't do enough of them to stay in the public eye. She just shows up to a photoshoot/CF now and then and spends that cash travelling around the world. Lowkey wish I had her life
Tbh I wouldn't consider Krystal the type of beauty Koreans like. She has a non-perfect and non-PS nose, a long face, minimal makeup, brooding expression (all by Korean standards of course, she's pretty to me) - when I think of a typical "visual" face I picture Irene.
It surprises me that SM didn't force her under the knife tbh, she's very natural looking. With SM you always have to fear they're gonna turn the next idol into a gangnam unnie/oppa.
Unrelated but I really hope Amber doesn't troon out.>>348548
Soyeon's singing voice, I like her rapping voice though.
Honestly Jackson would be a lot better if he used his actual voice
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this is missing the 9muses girls
im not one of those "OMG I HAVE AN EATING DISORDER BECAUSE KKPOP" spergs, but id be lying if i said hyemi, moon hyuna and minha werent thinspo for me when i was at the height of my disorder
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she used to be considered "fat" believe it or not!
she started dieting and her company literally hooked her up with diet companies to promote their products as she lost weight
she did some for water, other diet drinks, diet pills, workout shoes and clothes etc
jessicas honestly though its not that she CANT sing, i just dont like the nasally tone she uses
i also think sunye and sohee from wonder girls sounded like complete shit even with their editing and tuning
also, none of the girls from t-ara could actually sing except areum
even soyeon isnt that great of a singer
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krystal and yoona looked like each other so much before they started bleaching their skin etc kek
What lesbian fucking kisses their male friends???
do y'all not know what sexuality is lol
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Back to PULL, retard.
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Jfc I saw this tweet and thought that something at least remotely serious happened in their fandom but they're freaking out over literally nothing…
stop oppressing me and my southern linguistics plz
I demand emancipation