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No. 17556

I've noticed that in the GC community, rf and adjacent communities there are plenty of women who talked about having dysphoria (and some are detrans). So I've made a thread for this topic.

No. 17576


No. 18122

You don't have dysphoria, it doesn't exist. You have body dysmorphia which does exist(and is very common) and instead of posting about it online where you will only get attacked or led on by protrans, go seek therapy

No. 18123

>>18122
Most therapy is trans-affirming which is why support spaces like this for a societal condition are needed.

No. 18127

>>18123
It literally is not, no one here is professionally trained enough to treat a mentally ill suicidal woman who believes shes a man. Go seek therapy from doctors and say you have body image issues and struggle with how society sees women instead.
Also stop making threads that already exist just because you feel entitled to special attention.

No. 18133

ignore the bait accusing an imaginary poster of requesting treatment for believing she is a man

No. 18135

bearing in mind this thread was dead and buried for five days until she bumped it to tell people to stop talking

No. 18168

>>18135
I bumped it to tell her she has body dysmorphia instead and that she should get treatment for that without mentioning dysphoria if she's afraid or protrans therapists. Also you bumped it two times to try and infight, are you slow?

No. 35983

I hate my life

No. 36009

>>35983
Same I'm quite unfortunate in life and most of my problems in life are cause I'm born a woman in a world full of males.
I have to live in fear, have to double check things, can't enjoy walking alone at midnight, bleed every month etc
This is why I don't care much about this pathetic existence, I'm trying to shorten it

No. 36019

>>36009
>most of my problems in life are cause I'm born a woman
This. But I disagree with the second part. I don't think women are less degenerate than men are, they just don't have penises. I don't trust anyone, I guess that's the hardest part. My life over before it started because I was born this way, I've been discriminated against my whole life, I wouldn't have gone through any if this if I were a man. But that's a different story. I was crying over the fact that I'm female the other day. Feminists call it internalized misogyny, men call it hysteria. You're considered a traitor for going against your nature when this was the definition of feminism. I spend most of my days isolated from everyone, I can't enjoy from anything, everything comes of as meaningless. My only motivation is the realization that I have no control over my actions nor life. This body and life happened to me, I will play this game until I don't.

No. 36025

Just don't look in the mirror.

No. 36077

women make me dysphoric
all that is feminine and candy make me dysphoric, i wish i’ll die soon.

No. 36078

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I'm disgusted by femininity and femaleness with everything. I shouldn't have born as female, I fucking hate my life, I hate everything, I want to rip off my vagina with a knife, I want to cut my whole body. Why the fuck I born as female? I'm mentally a male, psychologically male. I hate everything about this, this body is not mine. It's just one of the God's cruel jokes. My goal is to get a high paying job and save up money for bottom surgery. At least it will relieve my dysphoria. I don't know how I'll live like this, I hope someone kill me soon

No. 36080

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>>36078
the idea of transition makes me more dysphoric, i must born as a biological male or not, not in between, i can’t mutilate myself more than it is..(spoiler your shit)

No. 36081

>>36078
Then why are you on a female only site? Fuck off and be a male somewhere else, trannoid

No. 36082

>>36080
I'm not talking about transitioning. I can't have female parts, it's makes me feel suicidal. I need my vagina to gone

No. 36083

>>36078
Bottom surgery will only give you meat-tube that will rot over time. You would be unable to even piss out of it.

Just try and get muscular instead and dress adrogynously.

No. 36084

>>36080
Gross

No. 36085

>>36083
Fuckk off really. I'm not talking about that. I'm not gonna get a penis just nullification. I already do those, I don't want to be the "weird woman" or "masculine woman" anyway, I want to be a man. You have no value in society if you don't conform and I can't blame them for it, after all femininity is what a woman is(personalityfagging)

No. 36119

>>36081
Probably cause she knows she will be trolled and kicked out of male spaces as they won't tolerate her rant

No. 36120

I'm a lesbian and the fact that femaleness is always associated with sex with males or attraction to males sets me off so bad that i want to pass as male. I've never felt off with my parts, I'm not bp'ed, and I've never been sexually abused or anything, this is just an issue that has been getting worse and worse for me the longer I live. I don't know, I guess ever since I was a child I've felt the need to fit into the "male role" to properly express my attraction to females because of the shit I got

No. 36121

>>36078
>I'm mentally a male, psychologically male.
What does being mentally a male even mean kek

No. 36137

>>36121
It means gooning to the most degenerate and borderline illegal porn for hours every day.

No. 36138

>>36081
>>36137
>>36121
>>36119
Terf seething hours. This is dysphoria thread, cry about it(this is a TIF not a TIM stop reporting it for being male)

No. 36139

>>36138
The truth hurts. You will ever be a pornsick moid - cry about it in the blackpill thread.

No. 36140

>>36139
What? You have no reading skills

No. 36141

>>36139
>cry about it in the blackpill thread.
please don't, stay right here. Why an anon would wander into a thread just to be mad at the premise eludes me.

No. 36142

do anyone know any active threads, platforms, sites, reddit spaces, tumblr.. communities, literally whatever for dysphoric afab?
i need to find my mutuals, my people..

No. 36144

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I don't even want to be male, I just want to be human, and yet I always contradict myself by craving love and to be coddled and seen as vulnerable without altering my appearance to be feminine and small. I wish human sexual dimorphism wasn't so painfully extreme.

No. 36145

>>36144
you can’t be human unless you’re a male.

No. 36155

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Relationship goals

No. 36156

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>>36155
2/2 healing process

No. 36176

Dysphoria: Maybe I don't want to be a moid after all. I just don't want to be percieved. I want to look without being looked at. I want people to stop assuming things based on my physical appearance. The closest we have to "an empty state" is a male child, and a male child is the closest to my goal. Unlike girls, boys don't have to endure the insufferable socialization of female society.

No. 36683

I had dysphoria since puberty and most of it has died down or gone away over time. Some of the relief just happened from not being a teenager anymore, some of it came from me gaining more control over my life and image - which back then, the lack of control translated into intensified body image issues that fed into the dysphoria, and some of it came from getting more control over my body via healthier choices.
Not trying to sound like a "just do crunches and it'll go away" hippy, I'm sure some women have worse lifelong dysphoria, but getting more familiar with my physical capabilities (outside of the 24/7 media psyop of only sex and childbirth) and improving my mind-body connection through activity helped a lot in reframing how I see myself and the muscles that work to give me strength. Body neutrality, exercise, a good diet, a few good female friends/mentors/partner, etc.
I still avoid/restrict old triggers, like looking in the mirror too long and clothes shopping. Alleviating dysphoria made me only less sensitive to those. Inb4 "that's dysmorphia" I'm pretty sure dreading the existence of my sex characteristics and wanting them gone doesn't fit the definition.

No. 36684

>>36683
Fuck off and go to /g. We don't need retards to dismiss our experiences in our own thread. You didn't have it to begin with if it's gone. You had gender dysphoria not sex dysphoria(infighting)

No. 36688

I fucking can't take it anymore. I'm all alone in this world, I can't live like this. I feel like I'm done. I can't breathe anymore, I can't do anything. Just asking myself why? I really don't know how I'm gonna keep existing like this. It's such a torture. I don't if this is not hell what is

No. 36701

>>36684
0/10 trolling.

No. 36723

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I fucking hate the state world goes right now. Shit, if getting surgery wasn't hard enough. I'm gonna kidnap the doctors if they won't let me get it, they can send me to jail for it idc

No. 36817

I hate how transgenderism/hysterectomy became popular. So many women regret getting these surgeries and it's only harm women like us. Your chances of getting hysterectomy now is even lower because women are stupid and don't do their research before getting them and then regret. I hate the pro natal anti hysterotomy in feminist spaces including the ones with antinatalism undertones. I hate GCs and trads. I do think many of these women are subconsciously feel uncomfortable by the idea of a woman's chances of getting pregnant is 0. Because it's probably doesn't feed their lesbian land pathogenesis fantasies. Anyway just a short vent

No. 36837

i hate my fucking self, i wish every second of my life that i had been born a biological male. what a hell, what a curse.

No. 36844

>>36837
You'd still hate yourself even if you had been born male.

No. 36854

>>36844
No that's a radfem cope

No. 36891

i dont know if i have real dysphoria, I don’t feel comfortable with being desired as a woman,viewed as feminine and pretty,while i fantasize about being a desirable male

No. 36892

>>36891
What do you think about femdom? Or being the dominant one in a lesbian relationship.

No. 36894

>>36892
it doesn’t make me feel dysphoric

No. 36896

>>36894
Then I imagine at least one of these would be true:
>you're not comfortable with being the submissive one in a heterosexual relationship
>you're not comfortable with being in a heterosexual relationship at all
This isn't what only males have, so what you've described doesn't sound like gender/sex dysphoria.

No. 36900

>>36817
is it true that getting hysterectomy is harder now? damn im fucked then i already have endometriosis and hate bleeding every month
i fucking hate this organ so much its retarded shit that bleeds and pains me

No. 36929

>>36925
I don't think men are more beautiful than women but women's bodies are weird in a bad way, like they have weird curves and fats hanging on their chests, hip dips, childbearing hips, bones are narrow and weak, holds more fat, fucking bleeds and vagina leaks disgusting shit, vagina is like a shithole lol it's prone to infection, which is gross, some women have that weird high pitch voice; I'm not even talking about pregnant bodies, I avoid looking at that type of women, it physically revolts me. Models have a more evenly distributed fat composition and more proportional, people see it as masculine tho so you may be right.

No. 36936

>>36929
I don’t think you’re gender dysphoric. I think you’re just an anachan.

No. 36937

>>36929
You’re a vile self hating cunt

No. 36940

I used to have dysphoria but then I stopped watching so much porn and it went away. Not joking, that was actually the case from when I was 16-20. I wanted to troon really bad, used to watch every type of porn, read yaoi, hentai etc, but then I stopped watching porn because my libido died down and the urge just naturally went away. I think this applies to the vast majority of people who troon. Literally porn brainrot.

No. 36943

>>36941
Maybe it doesn't apply to everyone(truscum types) but I think it does the vast majority of contagion troons
>>36942
I wore binders religiously and went to get HRT consultation and almost killed myself because I couldn't be a real man, I used to fantasize about having a penis and fucking women when masturbating. Then it just went away. I think it was real dysphoria caused by overconsumption of porn.

No. 36956

I don’t have dysphoria because it was more logical to hate the world instead. There’s no way I’m going to believe something is wrong with me, so my enemy is this shit earth. I’d rather struggle to change the world rather than change myself to suit it. It sucks.

No. 36959

>>36940
0/10 bait

No. 36963

Give me genuine, concrete reasons why I shouldn't poon out
>ywnbam
I don't identify as one
>muh health issues
My body is already destroyed
>you have to be an autistic tomboy
We aren't getting the radfem GNC utopia in our life time, sorry. The way we treat people based on sex is not taught, it is hardwired into the human psyche and I'd rather cheat at life than be the ambassador for a fruitless cause.

No. 36965

>>36963
>Give me genuine, concrete reasons why I shouldn't poon out
>ywnbam
>I don't identify as one
Then what's the point of pooning out?

No. 36968

>>36965
I think people would tolerate me better if they thought my personality flaws were just a fault of being male as opposed to anything else. I also think unfeminine women evoke a greater sense of repulsion in most people than balding manlets do.

No. 36975

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>>36956
>so my enemy is this shit earth
The basest villain origin story. Keep it up!

No. 36978

>>36963
Pooning out is not 'cheating at life' - it's the opposite. The trans cause may be popular (as it's astroturfed - not a grassroot movement) for a short time and the TQ may enjoy privileges for the time being, but that popularity is waning fast as more people peak. It's a very short-sighted mindest, and one typical of the third world - get rich fast, no matter the consequences for the entire group, including you. More and more employers will avoid hiring trannies (because they cause drama all the time, will retaliate with lawsuits when fired and are mentally ill - this is compounded by the fact that doctors troon out everyone who claims 'gender dysphoria', without treating the root causes), more regular people will distance themselves from you, you will only be able to date chasers, you will be made a poster girl for 'moral degeneracy' and everything going wrong in the country.

>My body is already destroyed

Just wait for it to be destroyed further then.

No. 36988

>>36963
>We aren't getting the radfem GNC utopia in our life time, sorry.
Nice strawman.
>The way we treat people based on sex
There's a high, high chance you won't pass even if you reach that TIF pornstar's level. Height, voice, fat distribution, muscle mass, bone structure itself wrt limb length, brow bones, etc. You might think you'll pass on a few attributes but the things add up to out you in the whole picture. You think being an ugly autistic tomboy woman is bad? Wait till people around you clock you in half a second and think you're childish, fragile, and delusional too. What little "kid glove" treatment you get from males will disappear if they're stupid/aloof enough to think you're male and you'll have to hear all the locker room talk. Other women will clock you as a gender traitor and you'll only be left with other TIFs who genuinely think they're men as company. Worse yet, like 80% of those women and girls have little to no dysphoria. You'll be left even more alone in a sea of LARPers who love to talk about their breeding and BDSM kinks, now that they think they successfully cheated the patriarchy, just like you hope to now. But they won't even have a fucking clue. And neither will you, to the outsider looking in.

No. 36998

>>36956
based

No. 37033

Just got told that if nobody invented male and female, they wouldn't exist. I don't even know what to say… It sounds like the gender critical anons on this website compeletely gaslighting us about biology and saying it's all a social construct

No. 37034

>>37033
conservatives somehow share the same views as ours..

No. 37037

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Why god created me woman if I'm a man? God is so foidbrained I hate her

No. 37056

>>36968
You won't pass, people will just treat you delicately because they'll see you as a delusional mentally ill woman who they need to be nice to or else she'll kill herself/throw a huge tantrum over any perceived slight. They will be nice to you in the same way we are nice to literally retarded people.

Stop caring what the world thinks of unfeminine women - you can never change your biological sex, so just learn to accept it and live with it without damaging it with unnecessary drugs and cosmetic surgeries. >>36956 has the right idea. The problem isn't you and your body, it is our fucked up sexist society. If you ruin your own body with drugs and surgery you are letting the fucked up sexist world win.

No. 37065

I used to think that being understood for this problem would be the easiest thing, because it makes sense why would I feel this way yet I still have to meet someone who gets it why I hate the female biology(because women are naturally submissive bottoms in sex and no matter how many times I try to be understood for this, people still gaslight me or don't get it)

No. 37068

I'm starting to wonder if these feelings of "otherness" in regards to my sex aren't just the result of autism and misogyny but also a social imprinting error in early childhood. I had almost exclusively male friends up until late elementary. The other girls didn't like me.

No. 37069

Why I born as woman? I can't accept it, I don't see myself as xx female, I originally was a male in my mother's womb but then had a mutation that turned me into female, I'm intersex. I don't associate with other women anymore, I don't talk to them, I don't accept them, I can't accept female sexuality. I'm gonna live my life from on as an intersex person, no one needs to know it, I'm being raised as a girl my whole life but that's the truth. That's why things are like this. I can't still believe I'm a woman. I'm gonna get my nullification surgery and then officially I won't be a female anymore. Until then I have to share same female spaces with women

No. 37078

>>37069
If you're an intersex doesn't that mean you are Xy? They always are aren't they. Or is it just your delusion and wish that you are intersex?

No. 37088

Apologies if this isn't the right thread to post this in but I've been lurking on lolcow for a while whenever I need to hate on moids but I've been consistently identifying happily as transgender. Maybe it's autism or something but even though I dress femininely I really like going by he or they pronouns and not she. It's not about any of the dumb "not wanting to be perceived as female" shit some people say. I know I dress feminine and people see me that way I just don't like being called a girl/woman or she. I don't feel like a girl or even a boy but I like to be called boyfriend. I like unisex terms. I want to separate myself from gender completely. I can't change how I'm perceived but I just want to wear what makes me happy and use the name that makes me happy and go be he or they. But all this shit about the 4B movement and people calling it TERF is pissing me off and I'm honestly peaking. I've kind of been upset with TIMs for a long time now. So many moids are turning to transgenderism as if it will save them from the inherent rapiness of the male sex. Some TIMs I believe are really just other autists like me who want to dress and be referred to differently with no evil intentions. I really only have my boyfriend in my life right now. I don't feel comfortable in feminist spaces because a lot of them wouldn't respect my wishes to be called they. I don't feel comfortable around trans spaces because they're too busy handmaidening to rapists in dresses. I don't want to stop being me and my name and pronouns but I feel like there's no way for me to feel whole again. Even among TIF only spaces I feel excluded because if I talk about man hate I'm a "TERF". I just want to be genderless. I don't expect to stop being a target of sexism and misogyny but I just want to stop being called a woman. I don't have a gender.

No. 37089

>>36854
Kill yourself.(alogging)

No. 37090

>>37088
You're an internalized misogynist in denial. Get the fuck over it.

No. 37091

>>37069
We get it. You hate women. You're fucking worthless.

No. 37092

>>36929
Do the world a favor and off yourself, you self-loathing waste of fucking oxygen.

No. 37093

>>36082
You belong in an institution with no internet access.(5 posts in a row sperging out)

No. 37094

male hands typed the above posts ^(scrotefoiling)

No. 37096

>>37094
female hands typed the above post ^(replying to bait)

No. 37097

>>37088
There are languages where the he/she pronouns do not exist.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_neutrality_in_genderless_languages

No. 37099

>>37088
Fuck out of here you dumb autismo. This isn't a thread for misandrist feminine whores to "uwu kawai I'm feminine dress like a slut but don't like to be called she teehee". Go get fucked, maybe it helps(infighting)

No. 37100

>>37088
Dumb fucking sluts like you is the reason why our world is fucked up. You have a boyfriend get fucked, dress feminine, you don't belong any feminist nor trans space. You're an attention whore and you know it. You aren't genderless you are just a stupid woman who wants to change the meaning of the words because of your fefe. Shut the fuck up and go get fucked by your boyfriend. I can tell you haven't gone through any remotely bad thing in life. Dumb fucker. You would be a tradwife 50 years ago fucker, you expect from women here who are already unheard, alone and in pain to coddle you like you retard "nonnies" do? No, you are the type of women we hate the most. I'll take a 4B separatist terf any day over whores like you who don't know what the consequences of their actions means. Women like you just proves what a stupid, useless, submissive gender it is. Just fuck off already, don't reply to this post we don't gaf what you think or do. Go tell these to your bf while he rapes you. Then cry about men but go back to sucking cock. Go dress feminine but say you aren't comfortable getting called she, what are you bpd? You can't be more comfortable in your gender more than it is, the only reason why you feel "unhcomfohble" getting called "she" is because it reminds you how much you like cocks, how feminine you are. You'll never be dysphoric bethany. You have no idea what you're talking about. Gender will never get abolished, you could delete all the gendered concepts from people's mind and it wouldn't change shit. Go talk about your guilty pleasure pronoun fetish somewhere else. Now take this shit out of my face(infighting )

No. 37101

>>37091
Shut up gender critical scum(infighting)

No. 37102

The weirdest thing my dysphoria does is not believing in the existence of female pleasure due to the fact that sexually women get pleasure through femininity and being servile. So, there's like nothing in sex for me.

No. 37104

>>37102
same thinking.

No. 37105

i feel deep sense of shame of being a woman

No. 37116

>>37105
this thread is for dysphoric women not women with rape kinks or degrading fetish

No. 37117


No. 37118

It is not fair. It is not fair that some useless westerner mother fucker who has a fickfock account able to get these procedures easily paid by their insurance when I have to spend my years working hard enough to get them in a shithole where it's not even legal and may be banned soon. I'll kill myself if something like that happens. I thought about it and maybe I can get my bottom surgery illegally like you know human trafficking organizations and stuff like that, I mean why not?

No. 37120

>>37118
What country?

No. 37136

>>37120
West Asia

No. 37160

You guys make me work harder to reduce/ignore my dysphoria so I no longer have to be associated with anyone like you in the future. So many of you are just doompilled in the troon flavor. Deeply embarrassing and pathetic, still chasing the dragon, you just think your self-awareness makes it better when you don't do anything about the problem.
>>37088
>It's not about any of the dumb "not wanting to be perceived as female" shit
It sounds like it though. You just shifted the 'female is bad' reaction onto 'the word woman (which means female) is bad'. Same shit, barely different words. Stop giving gender so much power, stop obsessing over it, stop associating so much with people who use 'woman' to mean 'submissive/worthless/abusable'. I feel like you're scared that people call you a woman and she because you associate those words with being named an acceptable target.
You have the lightest problem so far in this thread, I think you can resolve it. I mean this well.

No. 37166

>>37163
Yuore being really mean to me and I'm just vulnerable and sensitive

No. 37167

>>37166
Youre such a vile piece of shit lol stop stalking me

No. 37169

>>37163
>th female body is inherently sexually feminine and submissive dumbass
You are beyond retarded and keeping yourself from hope when you say shit like this. Many dysphoric women choose to keep trying to get better and eventually see the results. You choose to wallow and act like it entitles you to be misogynistic, you feminine catty meangirl

No. 37171

>>37167
Lol. It's an imageboard I respond to what I like. Not being very tough and malebrained right now tbh cunt

No. 37173

>>37170
nice deleting your previous post
>Female body has a receptive vulnerable and feminine position in sex inherently that's a FACT
muh PIV ahhh the PIV
facts: PIV has risk of pregnancy without proper contraceptive measures
fact: Pregnancy is an natural process that has many inherent health risks
not a fact: This is the onlyyy way for women to have sex and any woman having sex is feminine submissive receptive and vulnerable
Funny how you jumped immediately and only to sex with your example. What about women outside of sex, as women are full human beings with rich inner lives, varied interests, and other markings of humanity? Or do you mostly only associate women with (pornographic) sex?

No. 37174

>>37172
Shut up cocksucking whore(infighting)

No. 37271

All dysphoria is caused by childhood sexual abuse. Prove me wrong.

No. 37277

>>37272
Nobody forces you to have sex though. Just don't have it.

No. 37318

>>37118
>might get banned soon
Troons deserve to be banned. Death to your delusion.

No. 37405

No you fucking troonbrained retard I'm not trans, I'm dysphoric. You fucking dumb brainrotted pseudo intellectual cunt. Just because I express extreme discomfort and hatred towards my womanhood doesn't mean I want to transition. Just because I question my gender because I'm a GNC woman doesn't mean I'm a tranny. I suffer from this literally because I'm a woman yet you can't see that because you think any woman who hates being female is a repper. Your mom must become a repper too after bringing such a chud to this world. I'm pissed off because I'm sick of this idiots to throw the word 'TERF' to everyone and call them trans because they hate being a woman. No, I hate being a woman and I want to die because of this, not to transition. I don't care about presenting or pretending to be a male, it's pointless to me.

No. 37455

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Man, dae is confused by their internal gender? Like I know I'm not female brained but I'm not sure if that's automatically makes me male brained. I acknowledge there's only two gender but I can't help I feel like I'm non binary. I don't relate to trans people. I relate more to some intersex people where they feel like they can't fit into neither gender because of their condition. I feel to male brained to be a woman but I don't think it's makes me necessary "male brained", because I feel like I can just be something in between tho maybe I'm just in denial. I want to know my inner gender, I'm sick of being confused, I don't know if I'm a man or whatever. I just want to die

No. 37456

No matter what, to a woman who doesn't enjoy sexual femininity and submission, womanhood will always be inferior, cause female sexual pleasure is accompanied by feminine mental state and some kind of "I want to serve and submit" states which I can't accept being, therefore my pussy got dry lol. Sex exists for male pleasure and women have sex with men for male validation. Men even tower over women physically, so heterosexually women get wet over submitting. I became impotent due to my problem with my physical gender. And genuinely we can't have any space to talk about reality and my mental health is so ruined by ratfems and misandrists bitches who used to moralfag under my dysphoric posts making my mood spiral over and over again, persecuting me all the time. The truth about gender is that it's a physical construct, to me reality won't get better hence why I'm blackpilled as a dysphoric woman, to anyone else it can so they shouldn't call themselves blackpilled. What is seen as a patriarchal construct aka the female biology having a feminine position in life and sex is just a natural structure. People just lie but the nature of sex is obvious and the female body even looks sexually servile and like a bdsm sub. This is what I'm dysphoric about… This reality, physically is universal. If you hate me for dysphoria as a woman then you hate me for not liking being sexually servile … Lol

No. 37457

>>37277
Lmao nobody is forcing you to have sex… Do you realize that a woman or a man is SEX? sex is the raw reality. Shitty response

No. 37458

>>37456
Kek you narcissistic whore, you still write about your degradation porn fantasy? No one cares. You're not dysphoric, there's nothing masculine about you and you like being feminine. Stop coming to this fucking thread to post about your wet fantasies. Go away, shoo

No. 37495

>>37455
Brains are not sexed. There's no male brain or female brain, just like there's no male kidney or female liver. It's true that every cell in your body has DNA that determines what sex you are.
Sex is a biological reality and gender is the associated cultural roles and meanings ascribed to sex - put simply, sex stereotypes. There is no "inner gender," that's not a thing. Gender is just a set of sex stereotypes that society pretends are rules that you HAVE to follow o-o-or else it's going to get mad!!1!1!1
Free yourself, genuinely. All this emphasis on gender is basically a new pseudo-religion that relies on bullshit explanations like "idk I just feel it deep within muh soul"-type emotional appeals.

No. 37500

>>37495
No you don't get this. I don't want to have a vagina, a female body, I don't want womanhood, I don't want to be anything associated with being female; I simply don't belong to this body. I want to be agender, something like AI robot. I just don't fit into neither of these binary categories, psychologically. People get mad and say there are only two gender but like there are intersex people who feel that they don't fit into neither of them. This is where my brain gives blue screen. If I don't feel like a man or a woman, if I don't want to be neither of them, then I must be something in between but there's no such a thing as third gender. It's a limbo.

No. 37503

>>37458
Why is this anon always replying. I personally even had astrologist analyze me and very masculine in my astrological chart. It's not a coincidence

No. 37508

>>37503
>astrology
Oh so you’re retarded my bad

No. 37509

>>37503
Why even bother coming here if you're so content on chasing your delusions and disordered thinking? What magical catch-all answer are you hoping to get from an imageboard that your astrologer and TRA friends and whatever else source of woo-woo couldn't give you? Are you still genuinely trying to get better, or just making a show of it to feel better about yourself?
>>37500
Feelings are not reality. It's good to acknowledge them and either act on them or let them pass. There's no internal "man feeling" or "woman feeling".
What are you trying in your life to reduce the amount of time you dwell on your dysphoria? Are you helping yourself?

No. 37516

>>37503
>astrologist analyze
you claim that you’re realist when you believe in astrology? wow, what a retardation.

No. 37517

>>37509
Men and women experience a different psychological state in sex and sex is a fundamental part of the reality, so there is a woman and a man feeling, in sex. And woman experiences a feminine psychological state, sexual pleasure is either feminine or masculine.

No. 37518

>>37517
I experience daily suffering as a woman who hates sexual submission, sex is the root of life and fundaments of it and human psychology, femininity and masculinity is human nature, human psychology, I hate femininity and it makes me disordered everyday. Stop gaslighting. It's not about my feelings, but objective reality and me not fitting I to it

No. 37532

>>37509
>Feelings are not reality
Yes, I don't conform to womanhood therefore I'm not a woman, just a female. If I get rid of my genitals I no longer be a female.
>There's no internal "man feeling" or "woman feeling
No but there's conformity to one's nature and then rejection, when it's the latter dysphoria manifests as a defense mechanism. Which also may lead person to feel they're the opposite gender.
>What are you trying in your life to reduce the amount of time you dwell on your dysphoria
I'm saving up money for surgery but it's useless. It's not gonna happen in this shitshow. I could never have a normal life anyway, whether I had dysphoria or not, so I'm thinking to end this freakshow soon

No. 37547

Wish I didn't born as a woman

No. 37553

I don't want to be a man and I don't relate to/"understand" trans people, but of course I feel like it's preferable to be a man for a variety of reasons social and biological (although both are linked to each others). There are no advantage to being a woman, bleeding every month is annoying as fuck a best, does anyone enjoy that ? Women's reproductive system is a joke, pregnancy is a burden and it's fine when women want to go through it, but personally it disgusts me and i see it as body horror that never ends even after birth.
birth control is a slight improvement to the condition of women, but the side effects and/or efficiency make bc a less than perfect solution. im sure a lot about bc and generally medicine regarding women's reproductive system could be improved if only people namely men cared more, but it's not the case. saying that bc that comes with 675678 potential side effects could be improved is considered a feminist complain or something close to that.
pregnancy remains objectively painful even when women want to go through it. meanwhile men can just go on with their lives easily saying that they "want" and "expect" children although the entire reproductive labor will be delegated to the woman they will potentially have a child with.
I partake in "feminine activities" or whatever but that's unrelated imo. i'm sure there are women who enjoy being a woman from a biological perspective but i don't see how they do it, there is a lot of pain and unrewarded labor inherent to it, either way i accepted that i'll never be one of them. fuck this shit

No. 37554

>>37553
So would you give birth if it wasn't painful? That doesn't sound like dysphoria to me tbh. Also what do you mean by "feminine activities"?

No. 37563

I'm having tranny thoughts again but not in a "I'm a man" way but in a "I've been slowly androgenized my entire life due to hormonal issues and I'm also autistic so I display sex atypical behaviors." I'm female but in a different, almost subhuman way. Not like the other girls.

No. 37567

>>37554
she still have a female brain even if she’s dysphoric.

No. 37586

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Considering to inject unknown substitutes I'll buy from deep web to my vagina so it can rot or get cancerous, that way I can get the surgery

No. 37588

I will never fuck a warm pussy and experience being deeply loved and invited in by a woman because I was born into a submissive inferior flesh that only can love others and fucked. And suck dick. Only male pleasure is real.

No. 37589

>>37567
No such a thing as female brain, but there's sich a thing as biological femininity and sexual femininity

No. 37592

>>37589
no, there is female brain and male brain, female and male (psychology, biology)

No. 37604

>>37602
I think the 'other women' you have talked to didn't exist blowjob-chan

No. 37606

I don't want to do makeup, I don't want to have a skincare ruitine, I don't want to take care of my skin, I don't want to dress feminine, I don't want to pluck hair; I don't want to take care of my looks, I don't want to be a woman I hate women so fucking much to the point I want to kill myself. They can't stop spreading their diseases to the world, they want everyone else to join their disgusting useless masochistic rituals, they want everyone to obey to them. I don't anymore feel bad about living in a patriarchal society, if world run by women it would turn into eugenic camp. You would forced to be feminine even harder, everyone would be forced to do these things, sounds like a inescapable hell. It's not patriarchy that forces you these things, it's other women. And god fucking cursed me for some reason so I born in this body. This shit ass gender. Women are devils and I understand men so much better now

No. 37607

>>37606
there is no way this wasn't written by a male. that's just such a low iq take. if women were the dominant sex then obviously they wouldn't be bothered with these beauty rituals and it would be males being forced to perform for us. None of this is natural did you forget that women stopped doing their makeup/shaving etc during covid because no one would see them? did you forget that in all male made media unfeminine are portrayed as unlovable hags? of course many women want to go along with what males want since they rule the world because at the end they want to play it safe and survive.
Males are perpetually stuck in a juvenile mindset, are devoid of critical thinking and incapable of thinking about societal issues beyond a surface level. I'm not surprised humanity is going extinct under male leadership. Malesness is synonymous with failure.

No. 37608

>>37607
>if women were the dominant sex then obviously they wouldn't be bothered with these beauty rituals and it would be males being forced to perform for us
Why do I see so many women say things like "Oh I would even dress sluttier if men didn't exist" then? Also your assumption is false because most women dress and do makeup for other women, so they can be accepted by them. So yeah this proves my point that beauty standards would be more radical.
>None of this is natural did you forget that women stopped doing their makeup/shaving etc during covid because no one would see them?
It doesn't have to be natural to be true. Did I forget about women who even did their makeup even when no one was around? Did I forget about women who said they were doing their makeup for themselves? Did I forget that makeup and fashion trends blasted during covid? No I didn't.
>did you forget that in all male made media unfeminine are portrayed as unlovable hags?
Women despise unfeminine women as much as men do if not more
>of course many women want to go along with what males want since they rule the world because at the end they want to play it safe and survive
Why women want to have these things in a female ruled world too then? Why lesbians do those things? If women only did these things to survive we all would know it and I wouldn't typed that post.
>humanity is going extinct under male leadership
Based patriarchy

No. 37609

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>>37608
Stupid takes all around

No. 37610

>>37609
So you don't have an actual counter argument. Good

No. 37612

>>37610
I'm not the same nona, this quote is enough of a refutation for all the bullshit takes you've just spread like butter on a toast.

No. 37615

>>37612
Oh so you one of those who think lesbians are masculine butch women

No. 37616

>>37615
Also kek because the eyes in the picture you have sent looks pretty glamorized

No. 37617

>>37615
>>37616
Incapable of understanding the point of the quote i see.

No. 37618

>>37606
>I don't want to do makeup,
based
>I don't want to have a skincare ruitine,
cringe
>I don't want to take care of my skin,
cringe
>I don't want to dress feminine,
based
>I don't want to pluck hair;
based (if you still shave)
>I don't want to take care of my looks,
cringe
>I don't want to be a woman
cringe
>I hate women
mega cringe

No. 37619

>>37617
What's your point then? Women are AGPs?

No. 37620

>>37618
Oh boy you just proving my point

No. 37621

>>37620
>proving my point by agreeing with me in some parts
I genuinely hate makeup and women's fashion, but I still think skincare and hair removal is important, not just for women, but men also.

No. 37622

>>37621
>not just for women, but men also
You're the worst type of person. You're only making the problem worse. Forcing it onto other half of the population won't make it any better. Fuck you honestly

No. 37623

>>37622
Male body hair is even more disgusting. Moids need to learn to shave their legs.

No. 37624

>>37623
Lol you're dumb as fuck. There are women with hairy legs. Why are you even in this thread? I wish I was a male with hairy legs, I wish

No. 37625

>>37624
Men should shave their legs.

No. 37633

>>37624
I think hairy women are hot. Male body hair on the other hand is so unhygienic to the point you get a skin infection if you kiss a bearded male. Males are really the defective inferior sex.
>>37629
The male butthole is also receptive. Only males have an organ that solely exists to cause pleasure when analy penetrated. If I was male I would be ashamed that my body is designed to make me enjoy being a anal painslut.

So sad to see this thread taken over by trolling males under the guise of dysphoria and blackpill "feminism". I've never seen actual dysphoric women say such things.
Just go ride your dildo and leave us alone faggots.

No. 37634

>>37607
>there is no way this wasn't written by a male.
iam the inferior gender (female) and i agree with her.

No. 37635

>>37629
I don't have a soft body or voice tbh

No. 37636

>>37633
>I've never seen actual dysphoric women say such things
Kek you've never seen an actual dysphoric woman

No. 37646

>>37644
only males can achieve orgasms from penetration alone. anal orgasm is better than penile orgasm for them that's why they all loved getting assraped by older males as boys. pederasty exists and is celebrated in every culture because your boys are made to be fucked.

>>37645

obviously all dysphoric women just happen to talk and act like bjchan. nothing to see here

I'm seriously starting to think that bjchan is a bot made to spam this site with pure nonsense. No arguments it makes even make sense.

No. 37723

>>37500
I don't know, focus on the salvation of your soul. Your body is just a vessel.

>>37606
It seems you should stop hanging around bimbos - it's bad for your mental health.

>>37646
>anal orgasm is better than penile orgasm for them
Source?

No. 37739

>>37723
NTA but for your last question men have prostates in their asses and stimulating that is basically like stimulating a clit for a woman

No. 37743

>>37723
>I don't know, focus on the salvation of your soul. Your body is just a vessel
I'm not spiritualist. Your mind is product of your body. I am what my body is.
>It seems you should stop hanging around bimbos - it's bad for your mental health
It's not bimbos, that's every other woman. I can't keep going like that. Yesterday I had a enlightenment, I don't think I can ever go back. I'm likely a man in a females body. I just feel shit about it so much. I hate to be exist. I don't have an identity. It all feels wrong. I can't function like that, wish I could just transition but not only am I poor but also I don't feel like a man. I'm probably in denial but I really don't feel like a man even tho I'm disgusted and repulsed by femininity. I feel being nullgender is the closest thing I am but I rather to not born at all

No. 37758

>>37743
Or you can just accept that it's all internalized misogyny and you should just get tf over it. You'll never be a man and you can never "escape" being a woman. Stop this genderspecial nonsense because it's not going to make you feel any better. It really fucking isn't.

No. 37759

>>37758
>it's not going to make you feel any better
Yeah that's for sure cause I thought about it and I'll never be a biological male. Transitioning is a tough process both mentally and psychically but it's not about feeling better, it's about feeling like myself.
>you can never "escape" being a woman
I disagree with this personally, if people see me as a man and treat me as one, how I can't escape from womanhood? I don't see this as an escape from womanhood, more like part of my evolution, who I am. I simply come to realization that I wasn't made out to be a woman.

No. 37772

>>37764
Lesbians simply existing is enough to prove you wrong but okay. This thread is dogshit and deserves to be locked.

No. 37773

>>37772
You deserve to be locked

No. 37774

>>37773
You deserve to go to Reddit to whine about "muh dysphoria!"

No. 37776

File: 1736188381202.jpg (Spoiler Image,1.92 MB, 3000x4000, DSCN9272.JPG)

I feel like I already pas as underweight boy if you ignore the tits(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 37800

being fucked is what a woman is and i just cant. i cant go like this, i want to kill myself but i cant bc of my mom. theres no cope when youre a dysphoric woman, and i just dont know how much i can go like that, keep existing miserable. i shouldnt have born as a female, i simply born in the wrong body and im being punished for that by everyone. because when you transition to be a man as a female people still will only be patient with you if you tell your story as how much you were/are comfortable with being a whore. unfortunately, its just a silenced existence, where you arent allowed to express pain, where you arent allowed to be mad, where you arent allowed to make mistakes.. this is how you pay the consequences of being a female who doesnt do what she suppose to do, what she supposed to be..

No. 37806

>>37800
ok incel

No. 37820

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90% of my dysphoria is related to misogyny and it's almost fully disappeared now that i've started healing from past traumas and have gotten involved in feminism, but i think at some point in my childhood/early puberty i managed to give myself some weird form of autoandrophilia that i can't get rid of. i don't even want to be a bio male or a third sex or anything i just have a debilitating need to outperform men in every way possible and impossible. and also i want to "be a man" in the sense that i want to have a heterosexual dynamic with other women, mostly because of my homophobic environment but even then there are things moids will be able to do with women that i never will, ie. have fully bio children. i'm also bisexual which makes it weird, i'm likely never going to be in a relationship with a moid thank god but anytime i find one attractive or try to fantasize about a relationship i get angry about it and feel the need to assert that i'm "the man" in that situation. the fact that i'll never be as strong as most men also pisses me off and has made me think about roiding multiple times, i need to be able to beat a man with my bare hands if it comes to it. what do nonas

No. 37824

>>37821
you do realize that women can receive oral sex too right? and it feels better because they can experience multiple orgasms unlike males. maybe you should write these kind of thoughts on a personal journal or better talk about it with a psychotherapist. your obsession with blowjobs and penises is bizarre and me and other nonas here are sick of hearing about it. you need help.

No. 37832

>>37820
Are you me. I also always imagined myself as a boy and inserted as male characters in fiction when I was a kid, I was replacing the male character with my made up male alter-ego and imagining myself dating the female character. I was jealous when other girls at school were spending time with boys instead of spending it with me. As a 12 year old I pretended to be a boy online (for like 3 years overall) in order to "date" a girl from my internet community that I had a crush on (when she found out I'm actually a girl she was furious and broke up with me ofc and I couldn't cope with it). I wanted to compete with boys and until certain age I was actually stronger than literally 99% of the boys in my class - I was able to defeat every boy in my class in arm wrestling, except for one boy who was much bigger than the rest. But that was still like over 10 boys, and each of them wanted to fight me and they couldn't defeat me and I was so proud because of that. I felt mad satisfaction from being physically stronger than them. But when puberty started, I noticed changes and that I could no longer keep up with them, and it filled me with anger and jealousy, and I felt powerless and I hated that. The reality of being a female hit me. Having a weaker body was just as terrible as the reality of being perceived as a female (sexualized by adult males, feeling prayed upon etc., another thing boys didn't have to experience). I'm an autist and I do believe autism combined with dysphoria make women like us basically male-brained. I thought I was a lesbian up until I was like 13, like feeling the need to be with a girl and outperform boys felt natural to me, then I noticed I also found some men attractive, but still hated the idea of being with one. And over a decade later I still hate it. I could never physically surrender to a man, I have no problem with being a virgin (in a hetero sense, because I had sex with two girls overall), but the fact that I can still find certain men attractive drives me insane. When I fantasize about relationships with men it never involves actual sex, just living together, kissing and cuddling. The only sexual experiences in my life were with other girls when I was a teenager (and I imagined myself as a man while we were having sex, and I was getting off to it). I feel trapped because as an adult woman I can't imagine myself being with another woman because I don't want to experience sex in a female body. But I can't be sexual with a man either, that would not only mean experiencing sex in a submissive and weak body that I hate, but also surrendering to a man whose body symbolizes everything I cannot be. I would hate him for it, and I would detest myself too. So celibacy is the only way for me…

No. 37835

Since you guys are talking about it.. The main thing I hate about not being a guy is being unable to experience what it'd be like with a beautiful girl. I know I can still love a woman as a female and I don't have any reservations about that because of homophobia or anything (I've never felt shame about it since I was a kid), but ideally I'd be able to penetrate her. This is also the reason why I wouldn't want to be penetrated, it just feels unfair that a man is able to experience being enveloped by a woman while I have to settle for being the female. I've always wanted an equal relationship which is why I've always gravitated to the thought of being with a woman. I would never even think about actually being with a guy as I was growing up, only recently have I started imagining what that would be like because I wanted to understand. The only things that really matters to me are mental compatibility and pleasure in a relationship, but because we're stuck in these forms, it feels like men are a different species from me that would get to experience something I can never have if I had sex with one.

No. 37847

>>37832
NTAYRT, but now it's my turn to say "Are you me?"
You basically laid out my entire story, as well, including being autistic and feeling male-brained, the frustration of recognizing attractiveness of some men, while identifying as a lesbian for years, etc.
Tbh, I'm kind of at peace with my celibacy atp, but I sublimate a lot of my sexual frustrations through art. I found that creative outlets helped me transmute sexual energy into something higher and ethereal (as woo-woo as it sounds).
I hope one day you find peace, nonna. You have my best wishes.

No. 37852

My dissatisfaction with my position in heterosexuality made me realize that female physiognomy embodies the same traits women experience psychologially in sex. So femininity. Hetero relationships are also based on the male desire for the woman, string desire. Women want to be the source of male pleasure. And I have no pickme or sexual submission in me, therefore I have no sex drive. Wanting to please dick is always pick me shit because men are bad. It's humiliating. I can't be like that. I'm so unsatisfied with everything in life due to my dysphoria. If all I can do in human sexual intimacy is serve because of my biology then I do not want it, I hate this shit. I don't wanna be a servant. Female pleasure is non existent to me and non external genitals are like nothing to me. I have nothing down there. Only external ones are a valid pleasure to me.

No. 37853

Autistic women being able to talk about their dysphoria causes by not wanting to be submissive, gross and feminine in sex WHEN. we don't want to suck dicks, swallow cum and be jizzed on or kneel, it TORMENTS us. Let us speak(ban evasion)

No. 37854

>>37832
man you described me so accurately

No. 37871

>>37832
You have a fetish. It's as simple as that.

No. 37872

>>37871
There is an objective difference between male and female bodies. Women can't experience what men get to have during heterosexual sex. They can't penetrate. There's a clear difference between being penetrative and being the woman, which is just the feeling of being inserted into. If you see it from the male's perspective, it's obvious. It's not about wanting to fuck a man but wanting to fuck as a man. Which I can't do because I'm female. It's unfair that men get to experience something around them while women only feel something going into them.

No. 37873

>>37871
She's an autogynephobic woman with autoandrophilia.

No. 37875

>>37872
Buy a strapon or some shit idk.

No. 37876

>>37875
0 difference

No. 37881

I'm not dysphoric anymore I'm something else i dont want to live anymore i dont want to be human this world is nothing but shit hell. everyone is pedophile and rapists women aren't exempt from it which makes things shittier bc born as weak inferior gender. life isnt hard its impossible my flesh burning and rotting again and again and again. i dont trust anyone everyone is a piece of shit, its just performative and masking when they arent because they benefit from it for whatever reason. i suffered a lot because people saw me as someone im lesser than them so i saw true face of people from younger age and i cant anymore bc being a anti social, femcel, sensitive, dysphoric, aggressive, non sexual woman is so hard. i dont feel like human anymore because when i look at other humans i feel like im looking at a mirror, if thats what theyre capable of doing so am i. its so fucked up if you think about it, there's no normal; everyone have fucked up things they dont even hide from each other. maybe its better to know than be naive? idk but i just cant take being a human, its so scary to be exist, i dont know how can i just keep going i have to fool myself into playing this game, im simply an animal like every other human being so i have to be with them in order to function; live in society. but i dont even want to look at anyones faces, and i start reach to level 3 disassociation where i dont associate my body and self anymore because of this basic fundamental fact that im a human. i interact with world as human and i am what everyone else is because its what language is. i embody the humanity and everything we as humans did and did not. i simply cant do this, i try to cope with it through transhumanism but it's useless. i just dont know anymore…

No. 37884

>>37881
This has to be some kind of copypasta.

No. 37886

>>37884
it's not

No. 37889

>>37886
It's ridiculous enough to be one.

No. 37900

I hate how women deeply want something to be inside of them and to be internal instead of being like men and deeply wanting to be inside of something, external.

No. 37909

>>37900
What the fuck does this mean

No. 37911

>>37910
did your boomer ass for real attach an mp4 with no audio instead of like, a gif

No. 37912

>>37911
Imageboards should not have sound support - that's my hot take.

No. 37931

>>37900
I swear I'm recognizing your posts all over the site because of how consistent and laser-focused you are about the supposed innate sexual weaknesses of women on this board, /ot/, and even /g/.
Does it not help to avoid the things that triggers these thought spirals? Or to practice cutting these thought spirals short? I'm only half-annoyed at this point and half-concerned you're giving yourself some kind of sexual OCD, if you haven't gotten it already.

No. 37935

>>37909
She's having a mental breakdown all over the site again just ignore her

No. 37936

>>37935
When will they ban vpns again so she can fuck off

No. 37939

>>37900
meanwhile moids get actual boners when they poop because they love having their hole stretched so much

No. 37940

im just so ugly and masculine looking.. i accepted that ill never be a woman.. and its because of my race.. sometimes i just want to transition because of it.. i hate my life

No. 37946

>>37943
Female anatomy is built to support female life. Fuck off if people not agreeing with you bothers you, no one has to support your schizo opinions about your sexuality.

No. 37950

>>37946
stop shitting up the thread dicksuckers



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