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As an anon previously mentioned Chris made private the livestream of his 30 birthday.
Curiously enough some were mentioning how he took advantage of selling himself as alone and miserable in his birthday (already dating S) ,it got him plenty of donations.
The podcast was interesting. It was labelled as Chris talks about his love life but that was barely discussed. He just said that they were dating for a while and didn't go public because they wanted to make sure it would work first. Outside of that nothing juicy.
More interesting in my opinion was that Chris said he's going to do some kind of spartan race in two months. It'll be fun seeing him prepare for and attempt it. Though it'll be a pain in the ass for him to film most likely. Most of those kind of events really just have spectators see you at the beginning and end. As unlikely as it is I'd love for Chris to get hooked on these and become a pseudo fitness tuber.
I was actually surprised by how much he talked about his love life. He was obviously the reason why they kept it secret for so long, probably because he was afraid of people’s reactions. He seemed surprised that everyone had left positive comments.
He also said he probably didn’t deserve Sharla.
If anything he confirmed his paranoia at having to edit or erase stuff that could give away that both are together.
As some of us said either of two would get eventually fed up with such lifestyle.>>232440
Reaching there anon,this at least shows he's aware of the amount of comments saying they migth be engaged.
It's more so his choice of words. Not engaged YET. He could have just said that they aren't engaged, but the way he said it now implies that they are planning to be. I think they actually are engaged but they don't want their audience to know.
He said that it's important
to point out that they're not married or engaged … why is that important to point out?
The saying “it’s important to say”is a very British way of stressing something
Or clearing things up.
Japan has a Pokemon park too, anon. Its a universally love IP and nerds like Chris and Sharla of course love it too, or at least Sharla does. Imagine thinking one person in a relationship has to put a stop to even taking their partner to the PC just because you don't like Pokemon as much.
Thats how you sound, anon.
Was he talking about the Niigata Spartan Beast race on Sept 17?
He should've started preparing himself as soon as he decided he was going to participate instead of letting himself go until he got back from the UK. Two months isn't that long to prepare for someone in his condition. Obviously he's not going to go hard at it, but he could injure himself if he pushes himself too early. I agree with anon from the previous thread about his bag habit of doing big events to get in shape instead of regularly exercising and making long-term changes to his lifestyle.
Nta she did say that she knows her very well in a twitter reply. >>189833 >>232212
Pretty sure that anon was just talking shit.
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Yeah, at least it used to. It also had one of the Pokemon cafes in it. Sunshine City is a cute place for a date, there is a lot of stuff to do in addition to the Pokemon Center. Anons reaching hard for a reason to diss Sharla, hate to imagine what age they decided they had to stop enjoying things that were sort of childish. Pokemon is fun, looking at stuff with your partner is fun, big deal.
"Anons" (fans) from reddit and twitter who only became aware of Chris and Sharla in the last year or two should really go through our older threads to learn more about their favorite vloggers. This isn’t our first thread but they can start here >>>/snow/29300
and here >>>/snow/145728
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Norm now steering the ship away from Sharla comments
Just about every streamer does a “spending my birthday alone” stream to get more donations.
It’s like bitching about someone
Is not convinient for them to tell right away they are enganged because doing it later, Sharla can profit making a video.
They may not be enganged but I won't take their word as fact, as it has been proven, they lie all the time.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
I just don’t think it really fucking matter tbh. >>232623
I know it was pretty hilarious.
Well people are questioning or assuming that they were together during JAJ in the comments and neither of them are denying it. >>231898 >>231938 >>232161
Instead some comments were deleted/shadowbanned and it seems they don't want to say that he was in a relationship at the time. >>232185
It comes across as fishy to me. It's similar to when people were asking her if she was dating one of her guy friends and she would deny it but ignore the Chris comments. Also when they were saying that you could hear Chris's voice in the background of the Natsuki meets maro vid and she was deleting those comments. This all just ended up drawing attention to it and increasing the speculation and it turned out to be true.
I feel like if they were to act like normal people, they could have easily said/hand waved it away/stretched the truth (were it untrue) that they have known each other for a long time but the timing was off and they were never single at the same time. Plenty of couples say such things and everyone moves on.
But instead, they have to be above and beyond reticent about it for pRiVaCy ReAsOnS instead of being able to say a few lines on their relationship and express it in words like normal people in their 30s.
I swear no one on this board knows how to fucking read. I was saying they could have hand-waved at something similar to "we've known each other for a long time but we were never single at the same time 'til a few years ago and it just clicked" to DISPEL cheating rumors. Them not saying anything at all about the origin of their relationship is only making the rumors happen.
We have simps of each that put them in pedestals here so the single idea possible cheating is like a personal sin for them.
Personally idk if cheating happened I just find hilarious that Chris says they are together for "awhile" so far when they been living together more than 2+ years.
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Since no one ever posts pateron screencaps, heres one from Chris.
not milk but here you go anyway.
Yeah I don't know or care if they cheated, either, but they're doing the same thing with the start of the relationship that they did with the presence of the relationship. Which is to say, not saying anything at all and making speculation more fervent than throwing a bone to calm it down. It's natural for people to be curious about the starts of relationships (romance novels and fanfics and erotica exploring this are super popular for a reason), and a vague "it never lined up until now" is fairly common, especially during a.) the truth, b.) the truth, but a cheating scenario, c.) the truth, but they realized there were feelings and he ended his relationship with Lily before cheating, or d.) the truth, but maybe they got together very quickly after their break ups.
Samefag. In the end, they honestly don't have to say anything. But for a pair of people who want privacy around their relationship, they seem to do a bad job of not stoking speculation. The video posted in >>232764
has him speaking a bit more normally about it. Still few words about it but a more normal level than stammering on a podcast for a few lines.
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>>232752>>232743>there's nothing to back it up
Well if two people go and privately and discreetly have an affair it's not exactly something that can be proven.>3 years doesn't mean exactly 3 years and Chris's girl was 5 years ago,so anon,make the time make sense bc that looks like 2 years right there
anon what in the actual fuck are you even trying to say? Also it wasn't five ago that he broke up with lily, it was around the end of Dec 2018/beginning of Jan 2019 according to her twitter.>Sharla divorced before Chris even had his breakup
Yes this is obvious. There was no tinfoil about Sharla being a cheater. Why don't you try reading through this post >>232713
and all the posts that are linked in it.
what proof do you have that he didn't cheat? do you know them? were you there?
they were very obviously and very comfortably flirting on camera in presence of other people while he was still with his ex and she was not shutting him down.
The speculation was if he did, not if they both did. It was already established that she separated from her ex before JAJ.
You have no way of knowing that he didn't cheat. If anything did happen between them it's something that only they would know and a secret that they would take to the grave. People tend to be discreet about that sort of thing. So saying "there's nothing to back it up" or "there's no proof" is retarded. The only proof would come from their own mouths.
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regarding the timeline. chris' response as to why joj was taking so long did mention him breaking up with lily
also note the "2019 has been great so far" (the very end of the post)
Fuck buddies probably.
Honestly considering the background I don't think anons will buy her words after all plenty that said they were dating collected their win due the revelation.
JAJ1 was the trigger
Probably not dated but hooked up.
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Wtf are you talking about? She was there for the whole trip. Also the speculation was about if he cheated, not her. We've already established that she ended her relationship before the trip and that Chris had absolutely nothing to do with her divorce.
Agree Anon. Her Twitter gives me a headache with always playing the victim
“Oh woe is me, every guy I date is a douche” She obvs still pines for Chris
She’s a software engineer?
It's very cute, I can't believe she doesn't want to live in it. But I guess it's more of a business investment if they want to use it as an airbnb.
I wonder how much it cost. Are renovations cheap in Japan or are they really just that cashed up? Or is it likely they got a loan? In my country I would estimate in the 6 figure range for that much work.
We have Chris deleting a video some hours after someone here noted a background that showed that he lived with Sharla back in Morioka.
Do you mean 2018? They did a livestream from a hotel room but I highly doubt they hooked up, that Ian guy from TC was there as well.
Lily tweeted on jan 7 2019 that she started the year with bad news and planned on moving to Tokyo.
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It's cute but feels empty?? Like there are no pictures on the walls, no decorations at all, there could be more cat-themed things (plushies, clock, etc) or something? Or is this personality-less setup something that Airbnb hosts and guests prefer? I understand it is just for renting but they could have made it more cozy and I mean, if you name your Airbnb after cats, then you should have more cat themed things>>233043
I agree, the toucan-jungle wallpaper is especially awful
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Kek is this you anon?
>>233099>But he was still with lily
What does that matter? The speculation was about them possibly hooking up during the cycle across Japan, not that they had started an actual relationship back then.>She didn't move back to Morioka until 2019
She appears in this vid from Dec 2018 as 'iwate resident'
No one is desperate. It's just some speculating not a damning accusation.
To clarify, the only reasons why some anons think that something possibly happened are the timing of the breakup and the fact that he obviously left her for Sharla, her unfollowing Sharla right afterwards and ignoring her entire existence despite her trying to interact with everyone else in the gaijin clique, her obvious disdain for them and it likely being the motive for why she came here to post about them back in thread 9 starting that whole discussion about them dating and living together. It was clearly revenge posting.
How? I'm inferring Sharla found someone better too. This isn't only about Chris and I didn't mean him either and most anons agree that lily is a mess anyway, so honestly yeah. Chris did
effectively get with someone better and Sharla, for her sake since she got a divorce, found someone better too.
Sage your shit if you are asking for spoonfeeding.
Also, According to Sharla it's been 3 years, so that means near the end of 2019 they started really dating. 2023 isn't here yet.
What did they do?
You have no idea!
Your opinions are not facts, it’s just your opinion, that they had an affair, but you have no facts back it up. So I am begging you, please move on!
We are all ready to move on from events that happened 4 years ago!
New tea please! let’s Move on from the Lily chapter.
please and thank you
>>233121>And where do you think lily was when they were streaming in the apartment?
Uh what the fuck are you talking about? That Halloween livestream was from journey across Japan a few weeks into the trip. They were in a hotel room and lily was in Sendai or wherever.>>233131
I refer you to these posts >>218485>>218599 >>233133>Leading her to believe that he left her for Sharla
He clearly did kek>>233168
You don't know that it didn't happen in the same way that others don't know if it did. I refer you to this post >>232826>>233198>No timelines has anyone presented where there would have been an opportunity or hint
The only timeline that anons have mentioned is when they spent almost two months traveling around and hanging out, sometimes in hotel rooms late at night. >>233052 >>233210
Yep no matter how you look at it the timeline points to an emotional affair at the very least. Whether or not there was anything else going on, can't be proven.
The naivety in this thread though kek.
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Pic from her twitter, same pic can be seen in her apartment in 2019
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apartment tour from 2019
JAJ started in October 2018
Chris amd Lilly hadn't broken up yet.
Chris and Sharla very likely slept together by Halloween 2018, Chris and Lilly hadn't broken up yet.
Early 2019, Chris and Lilly broke up.
Timelines 100% match up, cheating occured.
And how do you know this?>>233277
Norm was not part of JAJ 1 so he wouldn't know anything.>>233284
It's funny that you bring that up. If you look back through that discussion you can see that their posts look very similar to the ones saying that there couldn't possibly have been any cheating. >>233313
It's not as bad as the Santorini shit. That was based on a pic of a pool in which you couldn't even see the background. This speculation is based off of the reasons mentioned in this post >>233122 >>233316
late 2018-mid 2022 = >almost five years. Kek
Also she's clearly still bitter af.
>>233400>Again, lily would have made sure EVERYONE knows
Again, I refer you to these posts >>232826 >>218485
Stop being retarded anon.
And how do you know he didn't cheat? This is just as retarded as saying that he did. There is no way of knowing either way. FFS
And yes, she needs to stop being pathetic and get herself out there and move on.
Where did I imply that? I agree that Chris and Sharla have a lot of chemistry and I get that that's life, shit happens. Nothing I said was meant to demonize them for how the situation turned out.
I have a bridge to sell you anons who really believe that it's normal for two insecure, non bunny-boilers who hide their relationships for years to suddenly jump the gun and commission art after one month and move in together after two months.
What seems most likely is an emotional affair beginning around when Sharla initiated her divorce, which became a physical affair when they toured for two months together, he breaks up, she's already divorced, then they start figuring out if they want to move in together and do so in the spring.
How are they insecure? Hiding their private lives from the public has nothing to do with how secure they actually feel in their relationship. Sometimes you just know that a certain someone is the one. That’s probably what happened in this case.
There was no cheating. Just two people who fell head over heels in love and decided they wanted to move in together quickly. Can we move on now?
Funny how you guys keep shilling the uwu they fell in love
when in two other threads with similar circumstances:>toxic tears and jake break up after ten years and ""one month"" relationship with new girl, Kat>anons guess it has been longer>toxic tears keeps dropping hints about cheating/hating cheaters, most recently about finding a hair in her and Jake's bed that was not hers>Kat's photo gift for jake featured photos taken longer ago than when they claimed to start dating>not one anon is crying and refuting the obvious fact there was cheating>next cow, heather explores>actually moves in with the "love of her life" after 3 months of dating, anons think this is too soon>shit hits the fan after two weeks and he kicks her out, not unexpected but still shitty>everyone agrees that it was way too soon
Yet in this thread we have>moving in together after 2mo is ""normal"" >absolute denial it could've been going on longer
Thank you. This is what happens when fans mistaken lolcow for reddit.>>233473
Are you really naive enough to believe that a cheater would admit to cheating? You can say that you don't believe Chris did or that you don't think the evidence is strong enough to suggest that he did, but unless you're Chris, you can't say with certainty that he didn't cheat.
If you don't like talk of cheating, lolcow is not the place to be. This isn't the place for fans to get defensive or gush about their favs.
Not saying she’s lying, every girl gets unsolicited DM’s - she’s not as special as she makes out. Imagine Sharla’s
Lily likes to bait her following and then chastise them.
How many times do I have point this out? >You have no way of knowing that he didn't cheat. If anything did happen between them it's something that only they would know and a secret that they would take to the grave. People tend to be discreet about that sort of thing. So saying "there's nothing to back it up" or "there's no proof" is retarded. The only proof would come from their own mouths.>>233605
Yes it is like groundhog Day. Anons are saying that he didn't cheat even though there's no way they could know that. It's the exact same as the anons that said that they weren't dating even though they couldn't know that for sure either.
These posts are extremely similar to the ones in this thread.>>178182 >>178776 >>178964>>181228 >>197791
No one wants to desperately villainize anything kek it's just speculation.
Reasons for the tinfoil were already provided.>Him dumping his ex a couple of weeks after JAJ, obviously to get with Sharla.>Their behaviour towards each other in the JAJ vids and Halloween livestream, strong vibes that they were hooking up, constant flirting and eye fucking. There's a reason that half the comments on those vids are things like this >>233062 >The ex unfollowing Sharla right after being dumped and ignoring her existence>The ex's clear disdain for the both of them >>189833 >It likely being the motive behind her vendetta posting >Sharla having commissioned intimate artwork of her and Chris on display only a few months after his previous relationship ended.>Comments on the JAJ vids asking or assuming that was when things started to bloom between them got deleted/shadowbanned. Neither of them replied to the other comments on those vids.>It seems they are avoiding saying that he was in a relationship during JAJ and they liked tweets saying that they shipped them since JAJ
Seriously, the obsession, I don't get it. The excuse of "they are just private because they are sneaky snakes" is laughable too. I like the comparison to Trump.>>233717
Exactly, no basic, just speculation, thus tinfoil. Because you can't prove even an inkling anyone cheated, it's fucking tinfoil.
>>233747>No tinfoiling isn’t fanboying.
Claiming Chris didn't cheat is tinfoiling and fanboying. Only Chris knows if he did.
We already know Chris follows this thread. Twice he's made things he didn't want others to see disappear immediately after they were shared here. His followers have mentioned this thread in his fanthread on reddit and on twitter, so we know his people are also here. Repeatedly claiming he didn't cheat when it's impossible to prove is only going to add more to speculation that he did and that he or his fans are trying to stop us from discussing it. >>233749
Sharing milk about something or someone else is how you get people to move on and discuss something else.
Right? This is the only thread I've seen where people will repeatedly take a completely unproven line of defense. There's no way to prove cheating did or didn't occur, but there are mountains of comments from fans who've been watching for years who think something did
happen during JAJ, refuting it is fanboy behaviour since there's absolutely no way to know either way.
> Claiming Chris didn't murder somrene is tinfoiling and fanboying. Only Chris knows if he did. … Repeatedly claiming he didn't murder someone when it's impossible to prove is only going to add more to speculation that he did and that he or his fans are trying to stop us from discussing it. >>233758> Right? This is the only thread I've seen where people will repeatedly take a completely unproven line of defense. There's no way to prove murder did or didn't occur, but there are mountains of comments from fans who've been watching for years who think he did kilo someone during JAJ, refuting it is fanboy behaviour since there's absolutely no way to know either way.
I think I need to spell out my point: claiming something nefarious that isn’t backed by any evidence other than speculating about a timeline with unconfirmed information is just tinfoiling. I absolutely think he was interested in Sharla before breaking up with Lily, but I don’t think cheating occurred. Maybe it did. But claiming something as a fact like >>233292
is what some anons oppose. Going back and forth about something that may or may not have happened without any evidence is pointless. I know this isn’t a courtroom, but IRL defamation is a thing for a reason - accusing someone for something nefarious without proof is illegal for a reason. Otherwise anyone can just call anyone a murderer or pedophile or whatever to harm them. That is in my eyes what you guys are doing. If there was any kind of proof besides speculation it would be fair game.
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She got a man and she wants the world to know
Nta I'm pretty sure that that anon and this one >>233119
were the only ones who claimed that it definitely occurred. The rest of us also oppose claiming it as a fact because that would be ridiculous when we have no way of knowing that he did. Claiming that he did not cheat, as some anons have done, is just as ridiculous as there's also no way of knowing that he didn't.
Anons have said things like "everything points to them not doing anything" >>233412
which is not the case, we at least provided reasons which suggest, only suggest, that something might have been going on >>233713
And this >>233416
which is just based on assumptions. The assumption that lily would even know, that he would have even told her, the assumption that anyone else who was there would have known, the assumption that he spent every single day cycling and every single night editing, which he didn't some of the vids is just him hanging out in the area like in Kanazawa and the one where he is with his friend from the UK and like this anon said >>233471
he dropped the editing every night plan.
And for some reason anons keep saying "when would he have had the time to cheat?" I guess they have never heard of a quickie or one night stand kek.
It was just speculation about it being a possibility based on a number of things. There isn't a whole bunch of anons making damning accusations saying that it absolutely 100% happened or claiming that any of the things mentioned is proof. So no, it's not what all of us was doing.
Cringe. Not the pic, your post.
Great can we all stop talking about potential cheating now that we’ve established that there isn’t a way to prove it unless one of them openly admits it??
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Report absolutely all anon posts without screenshots. Updates from Patreon from Sharla. Not capping the whole festival thing as its not really milky and a video will probably come out too.
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Anons not posting these updates are garbage
Nitpicking??? Kek fucking pot kettle black anon. An update is the image, the cringe is the text anon wrote with it. The update isn’t really an update, she changed that pic which we’ve seen in her apartment. Hardly a nitpick from home there tbh.>>233918
Thank you for being the only one to post from her Patreon.
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I know this sounds racist but I actually like the fact the biggest jvloggers now are a seemingly normal white/western couple.
No offense intended but after ten years or more the white weeb with Asian partner thing has gotten old and tired.
and I've never claimed that Chris cheated, don't believe there's enough evidence to say for sure, and am skeptical there was any physical cheating involved. But we have people here repeatedly saying that Chris absolutely did not cheat as though they're him and we know his fans are here and have been trying to turn this place into a fan thread as if they have no idea what kind of place lolcow is. When the discussion begins to get less positive about their two vloggers, those people become incredibly defensive, but instead of removing themselves when the topic upsets them or steering the conversation to something else with new milk, they continue to go on and on. Even when I or other anons have tried to talk about other jvloggers, the discussion is always brought back to Sharla and/or Chris by them and the cycle repeats.
50 % of the time? Your statistics are as flawless as your logic.>>233958
AFAIK there is one post adamantly denying that there was cheating. Obviously no one knows so why make such a fuss about that one anon? It’s possible, but without proof it is just tinfoiling.
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Didn't have time earlier to scroll, so yes. Chris and Natsuki might show up perhaps aside from just vlog stuff later on.
Yeah this is like a subreddit in here honestly, this kind of handwringing and defending doesn't happen in any other thread, you even got a sperg claiming suggestion that relationships often have overlap is "defamation" >>233816
like calm down, reddit-chan
>>233969>No cheating happened, she's not important anymore
I like that you posted this so soon after this anon claimed only one anon was defending >>233961 >AFAIK there is one post adamantly denying that there was cheating
You literally can't say with certainty no cheating happened
unless you are c+s themselves, there's literally no way of knowing that. This is why people say there are fanboys in here.
Samefag, it's not like anyone wants
there to have been cheating happening, the anons jumping to the defense are just streisand effecting it to the max, nobody would even still be talking about it if those anons didn't keep it going ffs
Sometimes it feels like a lot of Chris' female fans are plain toxic
1) He doesn't want kids and 2) they have lived together for 3 years so yes, I'm pretty sure he's happy with his decision. You ever heard of love? Probably not, I highly doubt you have ever experienced it. But FYI, plenty of couples stay together once they both turn 40. And 50. And 60! Even 90! Incredible.
This is not a shot at Chris and I'm far from a Sharla stan, but lmfao she could easily get someone better looking than him. There's a reason she has so many simps and even though she's a pretty woman, it's mostly because of her personality.
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looks like Sam's having fun.(old bait)
I refuse to believe any woman still thinks the "geriatric pregnancy" myth is true. You sound like a moid.
Btw they're both like 5/10 max. IDK how anons are trying to act like either one of them is above average looking.
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I'll watch it later. I'm honestly not even interested. Blocked out the stream link for you guys.
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She's live right now as of 30 mins ago. I guess Ill watch but not capping unless its milky. Im just listening for the greentext. She doesn't keep the lives apparently.
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>>234164>is tired, going to sleep soon>shows off to-do list>winds down stream and rehashes whats coming up>next video in a little over a week>might stream from CAN>stream over
Tried to grab a screenshot where anons can't nitpick
Seems like she just got bored of him, nothing abusive
. It's common with these weeb marriages for one or both to get bored when the novelty of it all wears off. Surprised it hasn't happened with Rachel and Jun yet tbh
Benjamin Rich AKA Benjamin Rich-Swift AKA Bald & Bankrupt. A very popular travel vlogger who's a known PUA and sexpat, who was once charged with rape in the UK (https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/5618610.cleared-men-behaved-appallingly/
), bragged about forcing a hitchhiker to give him a BJ in Belarus and has a long history of detailing his predatory exploits and giving tips to help others take advantage of women in poor countries on PUA forums. He's also a good friend of Harald Baldr, another known PUA and sexpat. Sadly, his vlogs are actually entertaining. He has a talent for languages, is charming, visits unusual places and interacts with locals on a level you don't see from most travel vloggers. I think most youtubers in the travel vlogging community are fully aware of his predilections since his identity was discovered a couple of years ago and he doesn't hide his creepy behavior when he encounters attractive women in his vlogs.>>234187
Sharla couldn't speak Korean and her husband couldn't speak English, so they had to rely on broken Japanese to communicate. There also seemed to be cultural issues at play when they moved to Korea. Sharla complained about her MIL in her videos.
Anyone else getting errors when trying to post screenshots from imgur on lolcow?
this isn't exactly correct. rachel did a study abroad semester in japan while she was in college and it was paid for by the air force (because they paid for her entire education). jun was one of the resident assistants at her dorm in japan.
rachel also said her very first impression of jun was that he was like a character from a shoujo manga. she's definitely a weeb even though she's way more low key about it than someone like sharla.
i dont think the video is around anymore, but rachel is actually kind of bitter towards the air force because they paid for her to have a japanese education and then NEVER placed her in japan and she and jun had to spend the first few years of their relationship apart. she had a whole video where she talked about how unfair it was but i dont see it on the channel now… it was from, like, 2014.
Some anons low-key get annoyed when you make fun of amwf marriages or even just insinuate the whole thing started for weeb reasons I've noticed.
I remember when Venus and Manaki first moved into together and cut out Venus' mother there were a lot of weebs who would get mad at you of you even so much as slightly insinuated it would end badly.
Kind of understand it if they're still teens and have this romantic view towards getting an Asian husband and all that but in your 20s you really should be growing up.
Her twitter was posted on his subreddit >>232067
so more people know about her now. Might also have been mentioned elsewhere. >>234324
What did they say?
The main or 2nd one?
If the main the yikes.
She was but occasional not a marathon.
You said "more" so the occasional might change to frequent .
Maybe because he tends to minimize the subreddit of his channel so the sub doesn't grow.
He's not like Ludwig or Trastaste who interact with their respective subs and sometimes makes competitions or else.
I do remember him naming the abroadinjapan socials(livestreams) like twitter,insta,face and when he named the sub his face changed to disgust or something like that kek
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Does anyone else think it strange Joey didn’t take his mask off to give her a smooch after so long apart?
That's nice anon. However, you probably don't know that not wearing a mask literally ostracizes you in places like Tokyo and other larger cities in Japan right now. Even people who aren't sick and aren't hiding their face because they didn't do their makeup today, have been wearing masks and you get some nasty looks if you are seen without one, especially in public spaces.
Do a little research, watch a few more vloggers.
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Just to add, it's a public space and these signs and notices are given through email, posted, and are said over the intercoms. At all times around the airport it asks you wear masks.
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Sorry I used the word 'law', >>234459
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Another tweet just now on the same thread
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This actually sucks that there was no communication whatsoever, nobody owes their exes anything but someone
could've told her instead of leaving her in the dark about her own relationship for 3 years.
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If you met Lily you'd know why he left her.
The girl's essentially Amber Heard 2.0
Look at her sociopathic tweets and you'll quickly realise this without knowing what she's like in person.
He must have been great.
In all seriousness are we really talking about some creepy French girl who’s narrative thread ended 5 years ago.
Go back to reddit, this isn't a fanclub>>234508
This is very embarrassing for you tbh, you're really gonna spin cheating as the heart wants what it wants>>234506
Someone was in her mentions warning her it might blow up, think she deleted after that>>234503>5 years after they broke up
3 years, no? >>234501
This all has strong uwu my evil ex
scrote energy, if you really believe every ex is "crazy" I have a bridge to sell you. And there was a 20 year age gap with Amber which nobody wants to mention.
It's been 4 years. Even if it had been 1 year it would have still been embarrassing. He clearly never liked her the way he likes Sharla if he pined over her while dating Lily. Lily needs to realize this and move on. Find a friend or a therapist.
Why would it blow up? Literally no one retweeted it over the course of two hours. Only simps who are jealous of Chris and his success liked and replied to it.
>>233752>Repeatedly claiming he didn't cheat when it's impossible to prove is only going to add more to speculation that he did and that he or his fans are trying to stop us from discussing it>>234069>I think Sharla is in here
Kek I think both of you are right.
Stans are still jumping to the defense. There's an anon who seems pretty hostile towards lily for some reason saying that she's retarded and that no cheating happened even though they couldn't know that >>233969
Calling her an ugly horse face >>234365
And now an unhinged sociopath and "someone no one has ever heard of or knows nothing about"
Calling the people who liked and/or replied simps who are "jealous of Chris and his success" or "Chris haters"
This feels like it's an attempt at damage control.>>234516
Dec 2018-aug 2022 is not four years.
Here is one of the very few replies to her, it sounds exactly like a Chris hater to me:
"Understand your reasons for deleting the tweet but fuck them, shows for all their high&mighty YouTube personas, it’s a facade especially whilst they take your patreon money. I’ve crossed swords with him before, very rude IRL. But hey, here’s hoping you’re happy and onto better things."
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Doesn't seem like they're a Chris hater.>>234527
Taking a screenshot nonnie
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Micaela knows her as does Chiaki they were friends for a couple of years, don't know if they still are. An anon mentioned that Rachel and Jun follow her you can see that they started interacting years ago when she was still with Chris. They aren't really part of the community any more though and are barely on social media.
There is no way to know.
This has been speculated to death, so you can just read the last thread.
Girl I found out stuff about my ex years ago when I was already in another relationship and it was still annoying, one tends to at least have a proper image of the other person if the relationship ended in normal terms.
Thinking this is "she hasn't move on" shows how little you know about relationships.
The fact that just after ending jaj1 the relationship finished increases the chances of cheating.
It proves it?We will never know for sure but there's an scenario that would justify it.
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Also the people in TC know/knew of her. She also hung out with Joey.
Most will side with Chris who can help them in YouTube than a no one like Lily,just business.
This will fit with the rest of content creators black listing her out of blue.
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Lily does nothing, barely creates content, and cant even use the right tense of 'enthuse'. Idk why she promotes her YT when nothing exists and hasn't in years. Why the fuck are people defending her? She's a literal who.
Your way of thought shows so little self value anon:
Possible cheating = the heart wants what it wants.
Top kek of today for me.
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Cos they didn’t post the screenshot
If a person is not "someone" you can trash it nonchalantly?
You think because X appears on a screen one shall grant more credibility? That's dumb as hell.
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>>234550>She no longer follows Lily on Instagram or Twitter. Lily often writes to her on twitter and she rarely replies.
And guess what she was hanging out with them during JAJ.
Good thing hes with her.
Why have anons refused to assume Lily is the one who cheated?
Well yes, they were his friends. And they want to be able to collab. Lily isn’t useful to them either so it’s an easy choice.
Also she comes off as weird and toxic
from what I’ve seen on her social media so that probably made it even easier to drop her.
She's a public figure. Most likely, like all people in general, its nit announced publicly first. Thats not weird. >>234600
Lily and Pete? Honestly, they fit perfectly.
I totally believe he/they cheated, simply 'cause both Chris and Sharla are not morally nice people. They use others just for their personal gain and drop them instantly at the first sign of inconvenience, but they are well-known and benefit from the halo effect, so they're fine.
It seems that Chris didn't want to be alone, so he used Lily, but kept the relationship private to keep his options open, easily get rid of her later without having to cancel posts or videos, and use his dumb audience to get pity donations "I'm all alone, guys, sigh".
Sharla probably agreed to stay hidden for a while, and maybe it's not that she was bad at hiding hints, maybe she showed those on purpose, hoping for people to notice.
At the end of the day, nothing is gonna happen to people like them and they seem they found each other, considering how Chris is behaving like a good puppy with her, probably paying for a lot of things ("Love is expensive" lol) Sharla definitely got him by the balls.
Lily does need to move on and understand that closure can only come from within herself, especially since all Chris and Sharla's fanboys will only bash her, or even comparing her to Amber Turd lmao
I am reminded of this post >>172778
And all the rest that were mentioned in this post >>219282
We know that most jvloggers lurk here >>232944
This is giving me some major damage control vibes.
Lmao. Move over Tolkien.
There’s a new fiction master in town.
Barely anyone who knows Chris or Sharla has a bad word against them. Chris has had no drama at all in a decade. A few whining weirdos on this thread can dream up whatever they desire but facts are facts and fiction is fiction. Enjoy dreaming up nonsense while the world moves on.
Yes she posts on here. Watch out for interesting placement of commas.
That’s the usual telltale giveaway.
Without proof what can she milk?
Jvlogger group siding with C, such an easy win for Chris.
Depends what one gains besides feminist agenda one gains little to side with her.
But with Chris who is of the biggest Jvloggers all gain something for the future.
Wow. Lily, this you? Haha
Lily stalked Chris’s Instagram for ages, went to Japan and met him. She went on a student visa. Moved in with Chris at some point, and tagged along on his travels all over Japan. You can see from her Instagram and on the YouTube videos that are now deleted that she was always there.
She seems to have benefited from the relationship a great deal as well. I think it’s a bit much to say Chris used her when she clearly stalked him for ages and ended up living in his apartment and tagging along on all those trips. I’m sure she was upset that it ended and she had to get a job and find her own place.
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drawing stuff for his vids, helping with filming… doesn't seem so cold and calculating to me
Ladies and gentleman I present Lily to you.
Digging through her old tweets desperately in an attempt to prove she wasn’t a leechy stalker. At least she was useful three times.(hi cow)
Yeah I can definitely smell some supporters in here, seems like the person screenshot here >>234566
and posting here >>234516
are the same person due to the random mention of a therapist when nothing about Lily's tweets suggested she was upset, more truimphant that she finally got closure since these sociopaths thought it would be cool to ostracize her so she didn't even understand what happened in her own damn relationship. Weren't they living together and dating for years? She has as much right to care about this as Sharla.
And if lily is a "nobody" why keep throwing out attacks on her character? There's absolutely nothing to suggest she has mental issues, she works a full time job in japan, has good health and appearance and reacted proactively with the recent tweet situation (replying kindly and then deleting when warned the stans would descend)
It seems very biased of anons to be calling her all these names, not very anon shitposter-like and more someone(s) with a vested interest, especially where it has been proven the gruesome twosome lurk, after Chris privated two videos after being mentioned here, and unfollowed the booty account he accidentally followed after being posted here.
Some of us anons just wanna kek at the idiots but jvloggers personal "thou protest too much" bullshit is getting in the way.
Anon you have no way of knowing that cheating didn't happen. Just as there is no way of knowing that it did. FFS how many times do we have to go over this.
And it's an assumption that she would even have proof.
Prove any smackling or hint of cheat. Please. Do the entire thread a favor and showcase one instance where it's hinted there was cheating involved aside from 'he was away from lily'. Thats a weak argument. The same might as well be said for Sharla in her past one then. Maybe she cheated 2 years prior and that's what the divorce was really about?
This is the internet, these people are under a microscope. Anons nitpicking RUG placement in a bathroom. Someone would've caught something the same way there was an anon who made up a fake story of seeing both Chris and Sharla walk out of different apartments, come together, and hold hands. This isn't even like the cup thing. There is nothing to base the tinfoil off of besides "They broke up" and it's just shitflining back and forth about everyone having no proof of anything, so it's a dead discussion because there is no discussion to even be had when it's all made up drama. How old are you, anon? Can't believe you guys can't handle a thread having no milk at the moment that you desperately want to try and make some up when there's no backing to it.
Take a breath, anon. You're so hotheaded that you didn't even read what you were responding to before you went on your rant.
But thank you for bringing up that the business with Chris may have caused Sharla's divorce! Seriously tho, the way you simps are acting are just encouraging people to dig further.
I think you're right and >>234657>>234668
>>234659 is the friend in >>234566
. Is it possible for the mod to look into it?
You think a guy will say his current relationship is just "ok" or something?
This Redditor level of reasoning.
Again no intelligent person will say their current relationship is less than previous ones even more when talking in public.
Using this as shade is kinda stupid.
Not going to blog, seems like your taken your own personal experience into account that are unrelated to the situation because your not lily and lily is not you.
but it is unhinged. 3 years and you haven’t moved on. I don’t feel bad for lily about the breakup, I feel bad she doesn’t have the confidence to move on and realize she is better off. Have you even read lilys tweets? The girl is definitely off her rocker.
Why are you so triggered
What i'm seeing in this thread is people who lack relationship experience re-defining or misunderstanding what constitutes as cheating, people hungry for more drama stoking rumors based on speculation that lacks any solid backing, and Lily using this as a chance to paint herself as a victim because she's not over a guy whom she had poor romantic compatibility with anyway. It might feel unfair that someone moves on quickly, but unless he was giving her the impression that he was still "in love" with her while having feelings for Sharla, it can't even be considered cheating of the emotional variety. As others have pointed out it seems like a case of him realizing he might have feelings for Sharla which coincided with his lack of chemistry with Lily, and so he made the choice to make a clean break when he was certain of the direction he wanted to go. Becoming emotionally distant from Lily before deciding to pursue anything with Sharla doesn't constitute as emotional cheating either. If it weren't Sharla, it might have been someone else, or their relationship might have dragged on without any real passion or affection. Who knows, who cares. There's no reason to force a relationship between two people who aren't suitable for each other, with Chris's drinking habits being one of the main reasons on his side, and Lily's tweets give off a weird self-centered or controlling vibe to me, but I don't know what her deal is personally. Lily's not unattractive and she can likely pull someone more suited to her, or she might need to work on herself personally first, because holding on this long is pointless, unhealthy, and petty. Makes me wonder if she's the type who absolutely needs to be in a relationship, to where she can't feel secure on her own, and so would rather hold onto the past as a coping mechanism.
Hear hear, nonnie
. Very well put.
Lily’s creating drama out of nothing. Chris literally said he started dating Sharla about 1 year after 1st Journey across Japan.
I agree with anons pointing out Lily’s narcissistic and controlling traits. Her twitter is full of pitiful attempts to draw attention to herself. It seems like in her head she’s always a victim
. Amber Heard vibes for sure.
I can’t imagine Chris putting up with such childish behaviour for a long time anyway.
>>234691>As others have pointed out it seems like a case of him realizing he might have feelings for Sharla which coincided with his lack of chemistry with Lily, and so he made the choice to make a clean break when he was certain of the direction he wanted to go.
Keeping Lily around until he could pursue Sharla is still a shitty thing to do, no matter how nicely and how many words you use to put it. Should Lily have moved on? Yes, but her reaction is irrelevant and doesn't absolve Chris if
that's what he did. Starting to feel like this repeated pivot to Lily from Chris is a way for some people to distract from any discussion of Chris' and Sharla's potential actions.>>234709
Sounds like a certain someone here.>>234711
So either that anon was lying trying to protect Chris, or Chris lied about when his relationship started with Sharla, which would be good reason to suspect there was cheating.
She said someone told her they saw C and S holding hands just months after the break up >>234477
plus Chris odd behavior when the new of S marriage ending.>>234483
After a year? It's definitely a lie.
Well if someone
saw that then it must be true!!
Can you provide a timestamp nonnie
? I skipped through a bit and only heard him talking about how most of his friends knew and how he's glad that he doesn't have to hide it anymore.
Also at 1:15:47-16:04
Someone asked who was the first person to know about the relationship and how did Natsuki react. He said "I think Natsuki didn't meet Sharla before journey across Japan" and that he didn't remember when they met or who the first person was.
Nta a pic has been posted in this thread that shows the artwork of her and Chris displayed in her apartment in April 2019 >>233324
So if he said that he didn't start dating Sharla until a year after JAJ then he's clearly lying.
this is place is full of sharla/chris defenders
first it was years and months of people obsessively denying that they were obviously dating. Now denying that there's signs of chris being on ready standby or more to be with sharla or that there was tension between in videos lmao
yall can still simp or ship for them or whatever, but per usual with the jvlogging group, there was some shady sneaky shit happening behind the scenes
This anon >>231835
said that the only ones following her were Rachel and Jun and Aki. So can you provide proof that there were a 'ton of jvloggers' following her that unfollowed after her tweet?
They both look the same size to me, only Sharla isn’t sucking in her stomach and posting the photos on Twitter. Who cares anyway, fat shaming is very 2002, nonnie
. They both look good.
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Timeline to help
Summer 2018 Sharla got divorced privately!
Oct to Nov 2018 journey across Japan!
Dec 2018 chris tell his Patreon he is single!
Jan 2019 Lily tweets about breakup!
Mar 2019 Sharla publicly announced divorce!
April 2019 in Sharla video painting of her & Chris is seen in the background!
*no one knew what the painting was of exactly, until last week after they announced that they were dating and Sharla posted it on Twitter!
So that tells us at the very least they stated dating around April 2019, just a couple months after his breakup with Lily!
It’s like the Nuremberg trials but Chris is being accused of war crimes despite the fact he spent the war picking apples in New Zealand and the accusations are derived from a barking dog.
Go and look up what happened with her and Retrogaijin several threads back and you’ll see all come close to control freak Lily flee the first chance they get.
A lot would depend, I think, on how long the artist takes to fulfill commissions. It's likely they may have been a fan of her/him and prioritized it, but even then, we're talking a few weeks here, plus printing and framing it. Not to mention how long before they'd be comfortable commissioning the art (since on the stream today, Chris was very big on talking about them getting on together so well because they had known each other for so long, it could be that they/she were comfortable commissioning the art earlier on than normal).
The slight cynic in me wonders if she would have preferred to not address the divorce at all but release the (albeit genuinely emotional) video because she and Chris were being spotted together by that point and she wanted to squash questions about why she's in Japan now. That's probably overly cynical and it's likely that she felt she needed to address why she was in Japan again, but I'm guessing that was the main reason and not wanting to appear to be cheating if she were spotted out and about with Chris was a secondary reason.
To lily: I don’t know any of these people personally. So I can’t say for sure if he cheated or not!
But 3 years? 3 years lily! Pick up your dignity, live your best life! Thrive get you a new boo, leave Japan, start over!Anything, but tweeting about a man that doesn’t want you, a man who dumb you 3 years ago!!
It’s embarrassing, like I get it shit talk him in private to everyone or anyone, but you ended up looking like a crazy ex by doing this on Twitter !!!
The best revenge is for you to be successful and thrive!
MOVE THE FUCK ON!!!
I'm the same anon as >>234835
and I agree it's totally possible and likely in a non-cheating scenario. Like they were 'talking'/flirty/pre-dating/knew they were going to date/testing the waters/whathaveyou for a while and then went official later on.
I’m impressed everyone here has the memory of a goldfish. Am I the only one who remembers last year when Lily did a crowdfunding campaign to go home to France. THEN quietly removed the campaign and used the money to go on holiday to Okinawa to meet streamer Retrogaijin.
You’re defending a sociopath lol
>>234820>Timeline to help
Summer 2018 Sharla got divorced privately!
Chris and Lily visited Sharla in Korea at the end of June 2018 to the beginning of July.
the fact that nobody seems to have reported them makes me think theyre the only people keeping the thread alive
tho im a newfag so
Question for anons: why would Chris state they started dating a whole year after JAJ, when Sharla had commissioned art of the two of them in display in her home in April? Why fudge the date that
badly? He split up with Lily after JAJ, so anytime after that would be a fine date to choose, but he went for a whole year later, when it was obviously ongoing in April at the least. That alone makes him look sus, Sharla is obviously happy to have the official date start in Spring but he pushed it to autumn.
No way!!! I knew that she was on there wining about not being able to leave Japan, but I don’t know about the crowd funding!!!!
She used her dads death to get a free vacation?!? Wow
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She milked the sympathy and made a few bucks. After a couple of days she closed it down, never went to France but ended up using the money to visit Retrogaijin in Okinawa. Money well spent to bump uglies with the big boy
Oh my god what . Doesn’t she have a super high paying job where other men are threatened by her being the “breadwinner?” How embarrassing asking for crowdfunded money in the first place.
Below then would support this:>>234623>I think it’s a bit much to say Chris used her when she clearly stalked him for ages and ended up living in his apartment and tagging along on all those trips. I’m sure she was upset that it ended and she had to get a job and find her own place.
Good milk Anon
and the screenshots of the actual campaign where?
also why sage if you say its actual milk
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Don’t forget how many times she tweets about threatening The S word, because she didn’t get her way in something
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Did you mean 2020? Do you have proof of of the crowdfunding campaign? Because it seems she went there after she got time off work to take her mind off of things.
These Tweets are still online, as you so carefully removed the context>She was not allowed to go to her father's funeral on short notice, as she was told due to covid she wouldn't be allowed re-entry into Japan, she was extremely depressed to have to make a decision like that>She was sexually assaulted by a client/business partner during a dinner and blamed 'what were you wearing' etc
The real milk here is,,, uh was chris the ex boyfriend who said she was lying here?
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lazy compilation since the c/s stans want to dig up old tweets
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LMFAO and there’s no better way to get over stress and alleged sexual harassment than hanging out with retrogaijin
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lazy compilation 2 for the fuckin' sociopaths ITT who think being upset your dad died and you can't attend his funeral is weird? Your shilling is getting absurd now
She loved getting to play the victim
card I bet like in every other one of her tweets. She could have gone back and seen her dad easily. She chose not to.
No he wasn't. Those tweets are from 2019 it was already posted about here a while back.>>234879
I swear there's a bunch of Chris and Sharla whiteknight simps in here trying to smear this woman.>>234884
What's the timestamp nonnie
? The stream has already been posted here.
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anons inspired me to make a little compilation of my own
chris simping for micaela while dating lily
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Since we are on that topic, how about Jun? You don't get to pick and choose whats just 'friendly' and what's actually sexually charged.
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Joey doesn't even have this up anymore, but going to assume she's talking about him being cute because tinfoil is allowed in here apparently.
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Lily does a lot of deleting, I'll give her that.
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compare that to what he wrote to his gf
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Not so hard for the tweet delete queen to remove traces of her pathetic crowdfund campaign. The only proof we’ve got is how she spent her hard earned cash on the all expenses covered trip to Retrogaijins apartment in Okinawa baby
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He.. wrote it to his girlfriend. Lily is calling a married man sexy. >>234923
You wouldn't say that to someone though the same way a guy shouldn't call a girl sexy, regardless of the way it's meant, if he's taken. You are double standardizing what Chris would get in trouble for doing if he said something about a hat being sexy on Rachel.>>234921
She keeps making these weird comments towards all the male YTs while dating Chris and a lot of these tweets she's replied to are deleted.
and i thought hot meant sexy?
do enlighten me
Watch his podcast, anon. Everyone around them seems to not think anyone cheated and the timeline doesn't show it either [certainly Norm would've been all over that if Lily wasn't, so would TkyoSam]. Lily talks. She wouldn't have kept it a secret this long if she was just willingly open about it on Twitter recently. She wants to pawn it off as cheating, it wasn't, and she bitched out and deleted her tweet, now using the guise of "People are coming after me uwu" to try to get herself out of her quick conclusion because she desperately wants to make herself the victim
when the breakup seemed like it was just.. The end for them. She was obsessive over him, still have PHOTOS of them up with her legs on his head and wearing tights [no fucking person still have that shit up after an ex leaves you]. She's still possessive. It's weird, loony, and clearly a whole bunch of bullshit on her part to try to get sympathy. Everyone literally called her out on it and now she's sad she burned all these bridges.
Well it was a pretty pisspoor gofundme.
She made $200 from her male simp fuckfest fan club. Still that should cover a decent round trip to Okinawa to GoRideMe with Retrogaijin
You know someone is a control freak obsessive when they still plaster photos of their ex from 4 years ago across their social media. I bet she’s been waiting a long time to post on Twitter about this. Bitterness festering away for almost half a decade.
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I'd be so embarrassed if my girlfriend did shit like this publicly. Lily, yes, is unhinged and fucking gross. Chris's fans saw this. How does she think this is quirky and with her winky face too. If a guy did this anons would be all up in arms.
Uh… I just said that even the people who suspect cheating, think Lily's unstable and should've moved on.
Norm is Sharla's longtime friend and employed by Chris, albeit for free. Why would he tell everyone that his good friend helped someone cheat and that his employer, who may be the most connected of all people in his professional group, cheated? Why would Sam know anything? Why did Chris just lie about the timeline? How can someone not know if they've been dating someone for three years or two years?
probably same people who were probably denying chris and sharla were dating have came back to defend their king and queen once again
lily is probably an insufferable twat, we get it. But sharla has a history of being a two faced snake and her simp chris jumped on the opportunity. No one here is wholesome and unquestionable
Honestly it really doesn’t track with Sharla getting custom art of their relationship by April 2019. That’s like 5 months after filming JAJ1. Including time to get the art done and framed.
I like Chris and Sharla but it can’t have been that long. Pretty sure by the time she made her announcement in March 2019 they were solidly together.
She also deleted her tweet saying she’d deleted a tweet.
Those hormones be all over the place.
Caught in a lie >>233324
Here's the stream >>234750
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She's just so fucking rude publicly, imagine putting up with that and then the lovebombing in the other tweets [which idgaf about, so I'm not capping. You guys can easily figure out how to wayback yourselves without the wayback machine]
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She really went on quite the DM begging at the end of the relationship from people. I think she was trying to get them to agree to do videos with her.
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This is the artist. Just so people know, Mochi works pretty fast. They've been doing art for a long time and the aesthetic of the commission isn't outrageous for their expertise. They are a tattoo artist. They thrive on quick work. Please, do any research before trying to argue the rate at which an artist can actually knock something out. Coloring alone for the artist only takes a few hours for multiple detailed parts of the photo. The commission most likely didn't take 5+ months like anons think and paid items are usually focused. She doesn't skimp or delay commissions either. https://twitter.com/mochiipanko
Fair, assuming she could do it immediately depending on her workload. However it was still in Sharla’s apartment in April 2019 when Chris is claiming they didn’t start dating until what October/November 2019 or 2020 if you take the 2 years!
Men can be vague about dates but it’s hard to believe he could be out by that much.
They really must have got together by the time Sharla made that divorce announcement. Which is tops 4 months after filming.
not according to connor. lol
also sharla is a vegan so her foods recommendations is going to be suck
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I can’t believe she did the GoFundme to Go Ride Him. Each to their own I guess
If it was the February after JAJ, there'd be no reason to lie.
It's more like>"When did we start dating? During JAJ…errr, I mean, a year or two after JAJ!"
If the artist is popular, even if she works fast, she'd have a list of commissions to get through and two months is a very short time to order couple art if you went through a divorce months ago.
Is it really outside the realms of possibility that before they were dating one of then commissioned it as a romantic gesture or for a laugh. It could have been a precursor to getting together.
Still I’m sure you’ll just disregard this possibility because you’re so weirdly desperate to prove otherwise.
As someone with insider knowledge I can tell you with 100% confidence they started formally dating in late 2019. Still speculate all you want. I look forward to break up speculation in the not so distant future when Chris gives a random expression in a video.
Honestly what a bunch of cunts lol
ROFL LOL LMAO AMAZING
Why comment here when the world needs you as a stand up comedian…
I know right. I don’t know whether to feel sorry for her or for humanity in it’s entirety.
A billion years of evolution and existence all for this garbage.
Thanks for the timestap. Here’s what Chris said word-for-word (no captions available for the stream):
47:32 “Uh… ’Chris, were you and Sharla dating during the first Journey Across Japan?’ No, we were not dating then. Uh, we were just friends… and of course, we were just friends for most of the time that we’ve known each other. Um, we didn’t start dating until, I think, a year or two after Journey Across Japan. Um, it was well after that… and like, with dating Sharla as a friend, you know, the best relationships, from my experience, a bit of life advice… life hacks here, it’s always good to date someone that you’re friends with, uh, or have known for a long time, I think. Like, the reason this relationship has worked so well is ‘cause we’ve known each other so bloody long. I think 7 years ago, we met at a Halloween Party in Tokyo? Uh, I was dressed as a candy man, ‘cause I’d put effort into my costume. I’d literally spent, like 50 dollars, 5000 yen, on various sweets, stuck them to like a jacket, got a top hat and stuck some sweets to that and went as the “Candy Man.” I don’t know what the fuck that is. All I know is, it was a very good costume ‘cause you could eat it as you’d go along, right? while you’re bored, while you’re mingling with other people… It was a youtube Halloween party and I walked around, I just ate my costume while I just was walking around, just eating the sweets and other people would eat the costume, to the point that, by the end of the Halloween party, after like two or three hours of mingling with other youtubers, who were far better than I was, I had no costume left. It’d been eaten. And it was great ‘cause I mean I could ride the train home and I was lighter for it, apart from the candy I’d eaten and ingested.”
If you haven’t, you should watch it to listen to his voice and see his gestures, especially during the first part, in case it disappears at some point.
I’m going to psychoanalyse this word to word. Is CANDYMAN a euphemism for sex.
Maybe Sharla WANTED his candy.
Maybe the CANDY is code.
Yet the sad thing is, 11-12 people will now over analyze this debate monologue in an even more creepily obsessive manner below in this thread, than I could ever hope to imagine.
…the sole fact you are here defending also makes you a parasocial anon.
don't you see the irony?
She's acting like Lori its weird >>235128
Really larping as a scrote redditor, damn you guys are desperate. No one said they were intoxicated and none of that is cheating proof. Wtf is the point of your post?
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No many of them do know who she is. Her twitter was posted there and she was mentioned in the post about the deleted aokigahara forest vid a year or so ago. This site was also mentioned there and it's obvious that there's a bunch of Chris and Sharla WKs here that have come from there and other places to shit up the thread and spam a bunch of old tweets from his ex and shit talk because they are triggered
that she tweeted about suspecting that he cheated on her. Those tweets were deleted after a couple of hours and only like 30 of her followers even saw them so who gives a shit? You all keep saying she's some unstable whiny nobody and I agree, she's def got issues, but you're all obsessed with digging up her years old tweets and comparing her to amber Heard and bringing up some gofundme scandal that there is absolutely zero proof for. Maybe lily is a cunt but this spamming just reeks of a damage control, shit smearing campaign to me.
NTA but Lily said Chris always
had a crush on Sharla … of course his relationship with Lily would end if it was built on such a shaky foundation. It was also obvious none of his friends really cared about Lily like they care about Sharla.
Thats exactly it. The cheating thing is a highly unlikely scenario. Its not logical and only benefits Lily and even she realized she fucked up and jumped the gun by the fact she deleted that tweet and all the jvloggers abandoned her. If the circle knew they were dating, except for Lily because no one hung out with her anymore, of course they would know and leave because she's an idiot who just wishes cheating happened because it would give her a massive influx of sympathy, but everyone can see through her shit.
No cheating happened. They all just moved on quickly except for Lily. Also, did Sharla EVER say the drawing was because of dating or because she just wanted to make something nice since they both lived together and it's a photo of the outside of the apartment they were sharing? Anons keep saying it's some anniversary gift, but it just looks like fanart of them and a friendship/nice gift commission.
Just to add, the photo thing really makes me wonder if anons read too much in to things. Nowhere does the photo say they were dating or she says she commissioned it for them because of dating or the anniversary, so where do anons keep getting this made up wishful "THEY WERE DATING SHE GOT THIS BECAUSE DATING!!!" thing? That immediately puts this at a spot that she could've commissioned this months before she even came back to Japan. Months before even moving in with Chris. Chris's birthday is in April.
Anons, it's a birthday gift with two friends in the photo, probably a hint from her that she likes him, but not commissioned because they were dating. Chris's birthday is April 19th
He was exhausted on that trip, they had a crew of nearly 10 people around them at all times when they weren't cycling, and they shared rooms with other people. Very odd circumstances to cheat under if you ask me.
More likely is:
1) he already had a crush on Sharla like Lily said
2) they became better friends after he visited Sharla in Korea and they grew even closer during JAJ
3) he's mentally exhausted after JAJ, realizes he is no longer in love with Lily, dumps her, flees to England for two months
4) comes back home in February and asks Sharla out
ALL speculation of course, but highly likely IMO.
To be fair I’d cheat on Lily.
She seems like the kind of cunt you can’t get away from. The fact she still stirs shit up after 4 years is proof that she’s a psycho
>>235174>2) they became better friends after he visited Sharla in Korea
The same summer that Sharla got divorced>comes back home in February and asks Sharla out
But is telling everyone they started dating 1-2 years later for some reason
LOL yes Sharla absolutely divorced her husband she had been with for 7 years and left her beloved cats behind because her and Chris spent two days together with Chiaki, Chiaki's boyfriend and Lily. Nice fanfic, anon.
So? Maybe he doesn't want to say they have been together for that long because some parasocial people think he has an obligation to share every part of his life and they feel cheated that he has been in a relationship for over 3 years.
How about on topic, instead of attempting to insult my post? Just admit that this would make the 1-2 year dating that Chris said actually more plausible now since this isn't a dating gift, it's a flirty birthday gift from Sharla [a hint that she likes them hanging out together].
As someone who takes commissions, yes. People do commission art of them and their friends frequently. Please, stop discussing how commissioning works when you have no idea. There are artists for everything. By that logic, no one commissions selfies for emotes of their friends too which they absolutely do. Art is art. I don't know why you're nitpicking a reason for a commission.
The statement still stands that no one has mentioned it being a dating or relationship gift. It was given to him in April, or at least anons claim it was in the apartment by April, so it most likely it a birthday gift.
That art looks like Sharla and Chris on a first date. She is wiping his face and he is blushing as she does it. Zoom in on the photo and you will see it.
If she commissioned it in March after dating for a month it could have easily been delivered to her by the end of April. As cute as that art is, it's not super advanced to draw on an iPad. I have friends who can churn out detailed fan art in 1 day.
The artist uses CSP. I don't know why you guys are even talking about the artist when you literally don't know anything. I can't believe you think she doesn't have a stand alone wancom.
Also it just seems flirty, not because of dating. Like I said, it seems like this was a nudge and during a time where when they lived together they were just testing the waters, but not really dating dating yet. They are awkward as fuck. I don't see how they would cheat or immediately start dating. Especially Sharla coming out of a 5 year marriage and Chris dealing with a stalker.
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This pic that she now has as her twitter header >>233878
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This proves alone that she doesn't predominately use procreate. This is Illustrator, maybe Photoshop. The tool bar isn't Procreate.
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cant share one unhinged lily tweet without the other
I actually think this might be why he is hesitant to say they started dating a few months after JAJ. He's afraid people will feel deceived. Pretty telling that he deleted that livestream just a little while before Sharla announced that they are together.
But he shouldn't feel bad about it, the reason people donated money on that livestream was because he turned 30 which is a BIG milestone and because they like him and his videos a lot. he always gets lots of donations during the livestreams regardless of the occasion.
And being "alone" on his birthday in times of COVID I took more as not having a big party with his friends and family like he would have had if there hadn't been a pandemic.
The funniest part about that anon complaining about the “alone” part is that in the live stream, chris himself said he had a dinner with a friend and had cheese etc earlier that day, to celebrate his birthday. He said he imagined his 30th to be a big party with family and friends but Corona changed all of that! That was all of us back in 2020, no parties, weddings, funerals all were canceled or we were forced to have smaller celebrations!
Why would someone draw all sorts of conclusions that because he was alone, that he needed 5 bucks, from his audience?
It’s such a silly, immature and parasocial reach!!
Also Chris makes Soooo much money of YouTube, he clearly doesn’t spend it on clothes, nor does he have a luxurious lifestyle, so keep your money and don’t donate to a rich YouTubers like Chris no matter what they say!!!
I'm not the anon who made the post with the vid link but I watched the vid and that is exactly what Sharla said at 03:30-40 "those people don't fit in japan. I can't fucking stand them." You clearly didn't watch the vid nonnie
You missed the whole part about what down with her, Mira, Rachael, and Micaela, and how she went on PULL to defend herself and claimed she was just trying to trick Mira. Thread 2 has some of screensshots where you can read all the lovely things she said about other vloggers just to "trick" Mira. https://lite.lolcow.farm/snow/res/145728.html
It would be great if someone from PULL could post all the screenshots of her posts from her thread there. There was also a very informative thread there on Norm, who's her longtime friend, where at least two people who'd worked with him showed up and revealed he was hiding a wife and kid, harassing women, got celebrity and WWF/E wrestler Chyna fired from work, which drove her into a deep depression and substance abuse which ultimately led to her death. Makes you wonder why anyone would be friends with him.
What do you want me to do with this stale ass video!? That a group of boring lame girls plaid victims
and acted like Karens? Is this the offensive act of terror you want me to condemn her for?! Your proof is so boring and uneventful, just like most of those jvloggers content, full of hot air!!
I hope they're paying you for this cringe, you stand out like a sore thumb with these asscrawling comments you make.>>235079>So Lily should provide evidence and shouldn't be taken at her word, but when evidence appears that Chris and Sharla were already in a relationship just months after JAJ, we should ignore the evidence and take Chris at his word?
Right, we're supposed to listen to 'trust me bro' and swallow obvious lies like 'one or two years later' but need photographic evidence of Lily's dead father's casket if we are to believe it.
Literally no one has said that Sharla is as
gross as Norm.
>>235189>The artist uses CSP. I don't know why you guys are even talking about the artist when you literally don't know anything. I can't believe you think she doesn't have a stand alone wancom>wancom
lol, you also don't know what you're talking about since many artists use an ipad pro, it's actually super common to use an ipad for art especially as an e-artist.
Wacom's aren't standalone, all screen tablets are attached to a computer, ipads are
t. an artist
>>235196>It was in the apartment starting in April, his birthday is April 19th. get a grip.
>commissioning art as a birthday gift for someone else and then displaying it in your own apartment
It seems you're the one that needs to get a grip, nobody does that, it was obviously a shared gift between them and a reference to their relationship as a reminder to herself. She only posted it after confirming the relationship >>235193
, if it was just a 'friend gift' she could have posted it anytime.
I don’t think anyone questioned lily fathers death!!
From what I have read here and from Lily tweets. The point that people were making is that Lily uses Twitter as a way to get attention or as therapist, especially when bad things happens to her!!
So her latest was that she jumped on Twitter and wine about not being able to see her family in France for 3 years because tickets are so expensive. People then respond with the sorry to hear that Lily, and show her sympathy, some even looked up diff ways for her to get to France, she objected to all the options! But then a couple of weeks later she announces that she is going to LA next week, she just came back from the US a couple of months ago mind you!
This is her pattern, rushes to Twitter, tweets long ass threads about an event or an issue.
People will rally around her to show support or solutions. She shuts down all the advices!
She did that with her dads funeral, she do r that with her countless claim of sexual harassment, she did that with the ticket to France issue!
3)ignores all advice,
4) make decisions that seems to contradict her complaint.
Yeah fair enough it's not her only medium, but it's her main one
"For digital art, I mostly use my Ipad pro recently, as well as my XPPEN screen tablet. Softwares I use are Procreate, Painttool SAI, Photoshop, Illustrator and occasionally Clip Studio Paint"
From her site - https://mochipanko.com/faq
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>>235359>uses sai>procreate>csp>has wancom and ipad tablets
Sai being her main as she used this before procreate. She uses procreate to sketch but doesnt always finalize the art on that app and will switch over. Tablet doesnt matter, the program used matters as it adds more shortcuts and brishes depending on what you're using. Shes a pro artist and tattooist. Shes usedto working out sketches quickly and the ipad is for tattoo designs a lot of the time. She owns a real tablet. The whole point is 1 month could've been doable for her. Anons claimed charlotte needed 5+ months which isnt true
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2020 she only was using procreate on her ipad. 2020 she was using a wancom, computer, monitor, and sai/csp for art as well.
It's relevant because it's proof that Sharla has had jvlogger friends come to lolcow to defend her.>>235356
She was. She was also mad at Mimei and her husband for being nice to Ashiya, who she hated. Again, Micaela confirmed that Sharla's screenshots about Ashiya were not only true but not an act unlike the case with Rachel.
Exactly, who cares? Those women have all grown up since then. I guess someone
wants to make Sharla look bad.
Anons are just talking about how it was proven that Sharla and other jvloggers egosearch and WK on LC and PULL.>>235351
kf has pull archived so i am sure you could find the proofs there too.
Who. Cares? That was 7 years ago, they probably have better things to do with their time now. I'm sure you also did things 7 years ago that you no longer do, nonnie
Yeah it would be one thing if she had solid proof Chris cheated on her, then it would certainly be her right to bring it up publicly. In that scenario she doesn't owe Chris anything.
But now it seems like she found out some time later than Chris and Sharla were dating and drew her own conclusion that Chris cheated on her and made some ill-thought-out embarrassing tweets about it.
The tweets also sound a bit unhinged with the "i was so fucking right !!!" part and it is just awkward. I feel bad for her because it sucks to get dumped and to see your ex very happy with another woman (and calling it "easily the best relationship" he's ever been in no less) but she's only making herself look desperate and clingy by tweeting stuff like that.
>>235404>almost half a decade
Begging for people itt to learn how to count, how does end of 2018 to summer 2022 become half a decade in your mind? >>235394>8 years ago >>235354>2016
so…6 years ago? Convenient that everything is soooo long ago (always add a few years) when it suits the stans itt, but they also rake up screenshots of tweets from 2016/2017 or whatever for people they don't like e.g. lily, then suddenly someone asking 'pm me' or writing a joke reply to her own boyfriend or being upset that her dad fucking died
is fresh milk even if it was from 5-6 years ago >>234961
It's been almost 4 years. Half a decade = 5 years. Yes, it has almost
been half a decade. 4 years is sad enough. Even 6 months is sad for her to cling to a relationship it never seemed he was that into.
LMAO that's almost half a decade?!
Seriously she seems unhinged as fuck. Super lucky escape from a psycho unstable girl.
He didn't have to say "this is easily
the best relationship I have ever had" though. Like, no one asked? He could have just settled for "yeah it's going great, it's a great relationship". Obviously he meant it.
What is your
point? That clinging to a relationship for "3.5" years isn't unhealthy and sad?
I mean 42 months or 1,260 days is a pretty long time to get over someone.
Although to be fair, not if you're a control freak.
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why do you keep bringing this shit up when there's no proof?
She tweeted about going to Okinawa because she got 2 months off work. The 'few bucks' you mentioned wouldn't be enough to stay there for two whole months >>234866
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No better way to spend your “medical leave” than heading to Okinawa to appear in Retrogaijins streams. Less a GoFundme and more a GoRideHim campaign.
Post proof of the gofundme nonnie
omg this has been posted 6 times already
And it'll be posted 600 times more if people keep bringing up her innocence.
Go and dig for the Gofundme yourself on the wayback machine. >>235462
Yes and he stopped being friends with her. If that doesnt raise alarm bells nothing will.
If you claim something happened then you have to provide proof nonnie
This thread is absolute perfect proof there has been an ongoing smear campaign against lily, the cropped, highlighted Tweets (where was that from? anon just had it ready?!) dredged up nothingburgers from years past, (woah she said 'pm me'!!) and obsessively reposting this one collab like it means anything, it's pretty obvious people have been spinning this shit for years now. They even call this chick a cloutchaser despite last updating her Instagram in 2021 and having an empty youtube.
I bet if you checked the ips itt at least half of them will be in Japan.
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When you make false accusations of racism, have many people believe it, and never apologize.
Smear campaign? I'm NTA who has posted her old tweets and I don't care, but there has to be a reason literally none of the other jvloggers hang out with her. Does she have friends? She never posts photos with friends.
She shot herself in the foot by making a few pathetic tweets about cheating that 'might have' happened just because a friend of hers saw Chris and Sharla holding hands months later.
It makes her sound like she is still hung up on Chris all these years later, which is just sad. I hope she gets the closure she needs and realizes that Chris won't return to her nor is it likely that she will have a jvlogging career after this. I wish her the best though.
yet you don't see post after post about how lily is a total freak in previous threads, only after the artwork thing surfaced
and you also don't see the same thing (i mean thread flooding wise) happening to chris or sharla in any of these
people have definitely been name-calling lily before all this went down … i personally don't condone it, but i also think her behaviour on twitter is a bit odd at times. she posted gifs shading chris only a few months ago so even then was it obvious she wasn't over him.
the reason you haven't seen anything too negative about chris and sharla is probably because there's not much to say, really. sharla has been drama free for like 6 years at this point, no?
There's zero proof of the gofundme thing yet some people here seemed to readily believe it.
Most anons were only speculating about it being a possibility based on some things >>233713 >>235505
It started after her tweets were posted here. Seems like a damage control smear campaign.
you're kinda missing the point. sure, people been calling lily names, nobody disputed that. however, compare that to an onslaught happening here: dredging up old completly irrelevant tweets, shilling this gofundme, pulling the wk card whenever somebody calls out their bullshit. all posted in bunches within a short timespan, with screencaps on standby by seemingly the same people (tho i personally like to believe it's the same anon with three personas, the anti-woke, the buzzword and the redditfag one)
that compared to people intermittently bringing up their allegiance with norm, for example, at the length of multiple threads throughout a whole year
i'm pretty sure the anon posting those old tweets and the gofundme campaign is the same person lol just ignore them.
those tweets about cheating were very dumb of lily to make though because it's only negative for her, not chris and sharla. saying she saw them holding hands months after chris broke up with her and that she has been trying to get to the bottom of the truth since then … 3 and a half years … whew chile. just move ooooon.
According to this anon >>231326
people have been mentioning this site everywhere and most of the jvloggers are def lurking here.
Most of those people reading this shit seem disgusted by it though. There has been so much shit talking about Sharla and Chris here and even though people on those sites supposedly read it, they don't believe it.
Even here, Lily has at the most 2 people in her corner while everyone else is questioning her. Not many people are gonna sympathize with someone who calls a beloved youtuber a cheater without any proof whatsoever.
nobody brought this up on the livestream afaik, so there's no reason to beliieve he ever saw that
don't believe how paranoid he is?
he testified multiple times just how much of a control freak he is. if you look at his reddit page, almost all of it are replies to when people call him a sellout. remember the john daub thing? he thought he was being backstabbed based on just one tiny jab
Of course no one brought it up on the livestream, you think any of his viewers follow Lily?
Sharla's friend from Sendai made a IG post about it though which was posted in this thread where she shaded Lily several hours before the livestream. Sharla definitely knew about it and therefore Chris definitely knew about it. TokidokiEmma also knew about it because she unfollowed Lily that same day and she was all up in the chat of Chris livestream, celebrating when he talked about his and Sharla's relationship.
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look at him going off on this guy
>>235533>Probably because he didn't want to disclose that he lived in Morioka for 2 years, as is his right.
That's just speculation.>How are you entitled to know exactly when they started dating? That is their business.
What are you even talking about? Chris is the one who shared that information. What is the point of lolcow if we can't even discuss what was actually said? Why are you even here?
It would have been fine even if people knew Lily, because no one took her seriously except that simp who said he had "crossed swords" with Chris LOL. Why would they take her seriously? She literally said "hE cHeAtEd BeCauSe I sAw hIm hOldInG HaNdS wItH sHaRlA A feW MoNtHs LaTer !!!"
Chris knows he didn't cheat, Sharla knows that as well, all of their friends who were with them on JAJ including Emma and Micaela know it and Lily is probably pretending that he cheated to make herself feel better because she got dumped and hasn't gotten over it 4 years later.
They are trying to cancel Chris because they are mad no one else thinks he cheated LOL. Wow, Chris is so problematic
Not really, he was probably interested in Lily the way many people are in their boyfriends and girlfriends but know it's not exactly for life. How was he supposed to know Sharla would eventually divorce? He literally said on the livestream that he thought he had seen the last of Sharla when she moved to Korea.
This sounds corny, but I think there's something beautiful about ending up with the person you were always meant to be with, despite many obstacles.
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I always sort of enjoyed Bronwyn's vlogs because of her unashamed superficiality but the latest one is a bit much:
>goes to the University of Texas because of its 'aesthetic'
>stops by a museum to enjoy the airconditioning
>takes note of how many Audis and Mercedes are in front of a restaurant
Also on a random not her marketing voice and cadence is so weird
>My store, Glow ATElier dot com is CURRENTLY having a f i f t e e n percent off brand sale forR all (PAUSE) 'I'm from' skincare products, 'I'm from' is a Korean skincare brand that focuses on delivering natural (PAUSE) skincare ingredients
I was just curious since I hadn’t heard of her. Looks like she left Japan in 2017 which is before I started watching Jvloggers.
(I started watching Sharla and Chris and a bit of Tokyo Creative, Emma, in 2018)
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Meet the 3 girls who use to be friends with Lily but now have dropped her, and now are friends with Sharla!
We have Jess, who use to live in Sendai and worked for tohoku tourism. Jess even invited Lily to participate in the organization PR shoot! Later Jess became buddy with Sharla and would hang with her In Sendai before jess moved back to Australia this year! ( per Jess vanishing insta stories)
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Then we have Solange, who recently shaded lily and said I can’t wait to see you in a wedding dress! Solange was Lily friend back before the breakup as they were one of the few French speaking Gaijins. They met when they did basic white girl modeling.
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Than lastly we have Nadine, who lives in Sendai. Nadine a church going Australian girl who use to hang out a lot with lily back before the breakup! But now Nadine is one of Sharla’s Sendai bestie!! She has appeared in 2 of Sharla recent videos. The one where she is looking for pokilids and another for cherry blossoms. Nadine will hang out with Sharla this weekend for the Tanabata festival in Sendai! Nadine just like the other 3 have dropped lily!
Nice digging, anon! They all seem to be pretty different people, fascinating that they all dropped Lily. That Nadine girl seems very sweet.
Especially interesting is the French girl, if she knew Lily personally she must know what she's talking about in her IG story.
Maybe some of them just put up with her because of Chris?
Her constant whining about the Texas heat is so fucking obnoxious because she would not stop whining about Toronto winters. She's just miserable anywhere she goes. Also, she seems delusional, because she talks about Japan ALL THE TIME still even though she's been gone for like 6 years and has a white tech bro boyfriend who definitely isn't going to relocate to Tokyo with her if she ever does.
Also an anon pointed out she only ever says Austin TEXAS and never only "Austin" and I can't unhear it now.
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The thing that made me think Sharla & Chris were dating ages ago is that how nice Sharla was to his ex gf Ellen (who was in JAJ) - also shows Sharla is a nice person that she is being friendly with Chris’ ex rather than the opposite. It just gave me bf gf vibes ages a go!
I'm not that anon but he said to be drinking for a year due relationship ending during his university days.
From a Trastaste episode I think.
a possibility though, mark my words. But wherever they went on vacation I think they got engaged there.
You basically announce yourself every time you claim that anons are going to praise you for being right
. You sound like a 12 year old who takes anime too seriously.