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No. 22555

New Taylor R. Thread because person in the jvlogger thread is to stupid/lazy to make one themselves.

Elbow-san's name revealed. Taylor remains boring and not really worth a thread of her own. Recently took copy-cat pics of herself in Kardashian style. No one liked it. People with hate boners still whining about cheek fillers (which no one cares about)

That's all the "milk" from her recently.

Previous thread: >>222185

This is a containment thread. It does not move to the top when posted in. Please report it if there is any actual drama worth letting the thread bump.

No. 22556

Reeeposting from the last thread

No. 22557

Shes still boring as ever i see

No. 22558

gotta milk the kardashian name and buzzfeed copycat vids

No. 22559

She is plastic like the kardashians

No. 22560

>not really worth a thread of her own

Admin specifically asked to keep taylor discussion in her own thread, why bother making a new one if you're going to post a bitter summary with no links.

No. 22561

mods autosage threads that have no new milk, you are evading the rules by creating a new one

No. 22562

While watching this (cringy af) video I was thinking "elbow-san must love her a lot" and then she said "how many times did you want to leave me?" He was completely silent lol so awkward

No. 22563

OP description is shit, at least say what she is: a literal whore.

No. 22564

Somebody capable make a new thread pls, so I can hide this shitty one

No. 22565


If there is nothing new or interesting then don't make a thread. In her case, just use the Jvlogger's thread instead?

Relevant new rules:

>- Proposed: In times of zero milk, when a thread is mostly speculation, it could be put on autosage until a moderator undoes this when there's fresh drama.

>- Nitpicking, armchair psychology, and absolutely baseless speculating must be saged and kept under control. Endless tinfoiling about e.g. Taylor's or Dakota's income or specific shade of hair color must stop and will be punished.

>- Hellweek starts tomorrow. This means strict moderation and lots of temporary bans.

>- For example, all posts that only consist of "hi [cow]" or "lol" or "underrated post" will be removed and punished with a short ban.

No. 22566

Taylor really doesn't need her own thread imo, but she really needs to ditch the Kylie lip kits. Those dark brown colors are hideous.

No. 22567

worst video yet. but it is getting views faster than usual. that clickbait title does work i guess.

No. 22568

calm down sperg-chan

No. 22569

This is a containment thread. It does not move to the top when posted in. Please report it if there is any actual drama worth letting the thread bump. No further discussion about the necessity of this thread is needed. If you have complaints, make a report, don't shit up the thread.

No. 22570

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Moneybag-san is my new hero

No. 22571

Taylorrr's French is so laughably bad. Can't Taylor get one of her admiring fans to check over her script, or is she too lazy even for that? Quelle for "What?" Turned it off immediately. So lazy.

No. 22572

That's the whole point of that character…

I do really like her new hair though.

No. 22573

those were subtitles for rosies barking

No. 22574

I thought the point is for the character to have a terrible accent but occasionally use French words/phrases that a French person would use. A French person would not say "Quelle" if someone called out to them or asked for help. It makes no sense.

No. 22575

I hope that her getting her hair dyed is a dig at Kaka.

No. 22576


if youre that bothered by taylor's stupid french jokes that youre thinking about them that analytically and willing to correct her google translate french then you need something funner than lolcow, its just a joke

No. 22577

She's so witchy looking in normal lighting. Like one of those vegan white girls who still get acne in their 40's.

No. 22578

Holy shit, she's from Canada, where French is a common second language, and does fuck-all every day. I think anon's point is valid. She could fucking ask someone instead of looking yet again like an airhead.

No. 22579

Hey hey hey. You don't need brains when you've got looks.

No. 22580

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I reeaaallllyyy don't see a difference, or much of a difference in her hair … How was this a huge change ? huge risk ? She went even blonder then that in her HK dolly days..

She's like a 13 yr old from the 60s where showing belly button and mildly dying your hair was "edgy".

No. 22581

I think you're missing the joke, it's supposed to be bad

No. 22582

could she stick out her chest any further

No. 22583

There was a point in her one vlog where she kept her camera focused on her chest for longer than necessary.

No. 22584

I will never ever understand why a girl who started out as pretty as Taylor would want to turn herself into some disgusting goddamn ugly weeb doll.

Fuck anime and fuck Japan.

No. 22585

She doesn't eat plant-based, and yes, hormonal acne is a thing at any age.


Well, she is doing that because she wants to prioritize her health and show her viewers how to do it in a foreign country/ encourage them

No. 22586

Do you view all the people by their color and origins?

No. 22587

She looks like every basic white girl, I've seen prettier she's average.

No. 22588

I know. But you know, when she can't do as well in her home country where there are plenty better than her, she goes to a place where they put her on a pedestal(Asia).

Failed whites go to Asia to model lmao. I mean even Kooters is getting gigs and she's really not much to look at.

Actually I think it's genius. There's no way she'd get an insanely rich guy with her average looks in Canada but in Asia where they're thirsty and do have a lot of money…

No. 22589

I'm so confused at her newest video, why she insists on doing skits/scripted "funnies" it's beyond me. She's not good at acting, it's so forced and the second hand awkwardness is unbearable :/

No. 22590

Some parts were obviously scripted, but the parts that weren't were painfully awkward (like when she suddenly jumps on that girl for a piggy back or when she leans back in the swan boat).

No. 22591

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As a fan of Taylor's videos her content changed drastically since the Kim K viral blow up. It's become more buzzfeed/clickbait/American humor when I originally followed for chill casey-like vlogs. Casey's vlogs suck now so I really looked forward to hers and it's just disappointing.

No. 22592

Same here!! I don't even want to click on the videos anymore because the titles suck so much and the content in the past ones was terrible… And she's not even uploading daily anymore, why can't she put more effort into them? Such a let down.

No. 22593

in her recent video she mentioned that her bc(she's taking to counteract her acne) has been messing with her daily life so that could be a reason for it.

I think she, in her own mind, is putting more effort in to her videos with these special videos but I just miss her chill vlogs

No. 22594

I agree, even back in the day I only ever watched her vlogs and never her "main videos" as she calls them. I loved her vlogs up until this last vlogmas started (so like 7 months ago) and then her videos started going downhill for me. Didn't even bother watching the relationship now/then or whatever video she just put up. I don't find her humor funny, personally. Depending on the next video she might finally get an unsub from me!

No. 22595

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I don't see anyone mentioning this but what's up with her instagram profile pic? Considering her aesthetic, this is very weird and kinda gross.

No. 22596

It fits her aesthetic because it fits her humour. She's not trying to be a model, she's trying to be funny.

No. 22597

Samefag but this video was good imo. She's being very honest about her contact lenses and that she turned down any modeling offers where she wasn't allowed to wear them or do her own eye-makeup. She also mentions that it really hurt her eyes over time etc.

She looks so much better this way.

No. 22598

It's from one of her videos

No. 22599

It's the end of her dolly era, kinda savage how she's openly reading all the things her early fans liked about her
She pretty much admitted she killed her modelling career, I wonder if she hopes to keep up earning as this new comedy sketch persona or if she has something else in the pipeline?

Same anon, OT but are there any other youtubers with that chill Casey vibe?

No. 22600

I'm glad she realises and talks about how ridiculous, fabricated and toxic her doll phase was. What she doesn't seem to realise is that her sketch/comedy persona is just as much of a facade/character.

The "I'm intelligent" and "I've got things to teach you" bit made me laugh. While I can enjoy her vlogs for their relaxed, carefree vibe, intelligence isn't one of her assets. Remember when she tried to get philosophical after going to a Yayoi Kusuma exposition? It was like a balloon slowly deflating. Just empty air. Her "deep conversations" always come off as empty. She stays on the surface of things and can't seem to go deeper. She isn't a critical thinker either, she just gobbles up what she reads and see.

Granted, she isn't the dumbest around, but I would definitely not try to brand myself as intelligent if I was her.

No. 22601

I stopped watching her vids for a while but decided to click on this one to see if it was clickbait. I think this definitely makes her a more likeable person, her only problem now is being cringy

No. 22602

Killed what exactly? Her bf can just get her jobs, she doesn't need any look or skills or whatever.

No. 22603

In her video she says people won't work with her anymore because of how difficult she was with her contacts and make up.

No. 22604

I typically love her Canada vloggs as I find her brother both funny and really cute … But is it just me or are they really annoyed with her in this vlogg ?

Also, it would seem her cheek fillers have made a unwanted return. To bad those couldn't have been apart of the old her she would give up.

No. 22605

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She needs to stop.. They look like shit.

No. 22606

Ironic how she stop wearing contacts once kooters took hers out? I give 1 month she stop doing ageyo sal and wearing natural makeup.

No. 22607

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Nothing to do with Koots. Why would it.
It's not like either are competing with each other anymore.

No. 22608

Didn't someone leak the adress where Taylor and TomLip-san are living?

No. 22609

How about we mass spam her video comments with:


No. 22610

What's wrong with you?

No. 22611

Her latest video is horrible, her sexualising and exploiting her brother and all the 13 year old viewers are commenting "Oh he is so hot", "I think I have a crush on your brother".

This makes me so uncomfortable. :/

No. 22612

Lmfao her brother is not a minor and an attention whore, he's clearly into it. Remember the last time she was there how he kept showing his crotch?

No. 22613


He rather seems annoyed than enjoying it this time.

No. 22614


I think this is fair tbh, to wake up her followers who still belive every shitty lie she tells them.

No. 22615

So much fucking autism.

No. 22616

Anyone else get who thinks the Canada vlogs are so boring and much worse than the Japan vlogs, in terms of quality and content?

No. 22617

No only a childish, no life, and obsessive person would do that. Nobody cares enough for tay to waste their time doing that.

No. 22618

yea its been boring, just look at the view counts, its lesser than her japanese vlogs.

No. 22619

He's so awkward and out of place lol.


No. 22620

>Posting an url instead of an image on an imageboard
How dense are you, motherfucker?

No. 22621

i dont understand how he is out of place, he's just being silly like rest of them… ugly as hell, yes, but not out of place

No. 22622

To be fair, anon linked to a gif

No. 22623


He looks like an asian dad… and she looks like a 18yr old.


Fucking ugly indeed.

No. 22624

I just don't get why she vlogs about the events she gets invited to because of her bf as if she's done anything to legitimately be invited to so many big fancy events. Most of them are BE which tom's the CEO of. Far from legitimate if you ask me. I also don't know why the topic of BE's promotion of her brand in general went without being brought up. He used his platform on several occasions as you can see by simply googling beauty exchange with Taylor r's name in the query. Yet she still pretends to be so independent. I feel as though this is the real reason her and tom don't wan't people knowing what he looks like, or his name. But I may also be interpreting this wrong. Just a thought.

No. 22625


People know what he looks like, just not his name. He is also the owner of BE, not the CEO.

Man, I just never thought home girl had it in her, to fuck her way to the top and sleep with her boss.

No. 22626

Home girl obviously has it in her X'D
I mean I'm not one to judge I don't blame her, but lie about it? It didn't even get her to the top, thats the ironic part, Just got her a middle rate youtube career, and you can tell the girl is more money hungry, and not content with having more than enough already. I call it privilege, others call it what they will.
Also we know his name, but she did make a point to keep it hidden, thats what counts.

No. 22627

Unless Tom Lip is an alias.

No. 22628

Try to lurk more.

No. 22629


He looks like her dad holy shit. Taylor never struck me as the type of person to date someone who looks so much older than her. Honestly looks like a sugar daddy/baby type relationship.

No. 22630

anyone know why Elbowsan's holding a baby in his linkedin profile?

No. 22631


She didn't get huge fame, but she found a sugar daddy ?? rich bf to pay her bills and filler replacements. Besides she does get a decent amount of attention ( 300k IG followers and 625k subs )


They're all about shitting on her, but rather not tarnish his name or job so they keep his name off their site. To an extent I get it, but I also highly doubt a tiny gossip site would even put a dent in his rep/career.


Money is all she wants so why wouldn't she date uggo ?

What materialistic bitch wouldn't fuck and date a 40yr old uggo for a 5k purse and yearly trips to paris. Girl is hella pampered, and probably hung onto her ugly dolly look in fear he'd ditch her for another girl. ( Though with his money he could prob find better )


Probably his sisters/families kid. Taylor has made vloggs of visiting his family in which they had kids.

No. 22632

Work hard at sucking the right dick for your dreams, darling~!

No. 22633

How old was Taylor when she started the dolly style? she said in her circle lenses video that she's been wearing them for "5 or 6 years", but that's gotta be a lie. pictures of her show she looked completely normal until 2013 when she went full blown kooter overnight.

No. 22634

2012 was when she started wearing them. Maybe not for jobs but probably in her personal life and definitely on camera. But she had been doing Liz Lisa style since late 2010-2011ish I think.
This article is from 2012 and she's clearly wearing circles in it, albeit not giant ones.

No. 22635


Sooo… She actually did the dolly thing before Kooters ? Or roughly the same time ?

I always thought she started long after Dakota started with it, since it was always insinuated that she copied Kota.

No. 22636

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I don't know. I certainly think in 2013, she went full throttle with the dolly look, but there was nothing really that different from what gyaru had been doing from 2008 onwards. Getting into Liz Lisa (which was available in HK) and brands like that, it's not that surprising I guess. I doubt she she was consciously thinking "dolly" at first, but naturally gravitated towards girly styles.
This was in a report from 2012 and here she definitely wearing Liz Lisa style. She's also wearing circles here.

No. 22637


She kinda reminds me of Kaka here with the resting bitch face and terrible makeup. She looks like she wants to cut a bitch.

Perhaps they both started liking the same fashion at the same time unaware of one another, but once Kota's popularity took off and went national .. maybe thats when Taylor decided to copy. Not in a malicious way like Kaka liked to imply though. Taylor's always seemed to be a sponge absorbing and copying whatever is trending at the time ( Kardashian's, Kota ect )

I kinda miss her old fashion even if childish looking. As of lately it just looks like she is wearing the same few tops and I swear to fucking go the same bloody jeans every day… Its just not very eye catching or flattering for someone with her body shape. ( flat all around )

No. 22638

Well It's a candid, basically a paparazzi shot. She really doesn't look anything like Kaka. Like I said, all Taylor had to do was look in a gyaru fashion magazine or even Vivi to find that look. Sorry but it really bugs that Koots gets credit for a look that was popular among gals when she was still doing shitty scene make-up. Not saying Tay is original (she's absolutely not) but Koots isn't either.
Yeah I'm not a fan of Tay's current look at all. I wish she was more creative. Personally I'd love to see her do a kind of modern mod look. It would be girly which suits her, but also grown up enough to be sophisticated. Or even Larme style might work for her.

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Damn, even though these images are heavily edited they look so so much more normal. That operation to change her jaw shape and all the fillers make her look so inhuman now.

She should stop before she looks like Michael Jackson.

No. 22640


Regardless there still was a point where it felt like there was some copying. I never said the style was Kota's, but Taylor sure af went hard on it once Kota's popularity peaked. Then there was the weird video styles she started cranking out with her stiff as a board on a bed with a high pitch voice wit pink bed sheets.

People didn't start assuming she was copying until she cut her hair(straight bangs),moved to Japan, made stiff videos in a small apartment, high pitch voice, After effects, went full out dolly. Everything Kota does..

No. 22641

I swear there is this one samefag who keeps casually mentioning Taylor getting fillers as a proven thing in unrelated threads, and now they are trying to make it seem like she even had jaw surgery. I swear it's the same anon who wanted to spam her videos with autistic shit. Vendetta much?

No. 22642

Oh yes, the copying was really blatent and obvious: some of it was creepy as hell. Poses, hairstyles. She did a copy of Kota's banner pic (the one where Kota shooped off her ears). There was a period of time where she was trying to show that she was better than Dakota.

I even suspect she started her PULL thread (on the oldest version of PULl, she was in the "pretty girls" section). The initial post was about this amazing dolly girl who was just like Dakota but ~nice~.

Given elbow-san's industry, he may have encouraged her to copy Kota. He certainly knows about marketing young women to a waiting audience.

No. 22643

Yup. I've noticed that too. Won't comment on the fillers but the jaw stuff is just stupid. In her most recent pictures her jaw looks the same as it always has in candids. She naturally has strong jaw and a small chin. It fits her face.

No. 22644

>I even suspect she started her PULL thread.

Being this fucking stupid.

No. 22645


No, Tom wouldn't encourage her to copy Kota, and matter of fact encouraged her to make dance videos and leave the house unlike Kota. As a business man he's smart enough to know not to copy someone else's image and ideas down to a T.

Taylor being as uncreative and boring as she is just copies who ever is trending and most popular. Like her blatantly copying Kota, then Casey, Buzzfeed and many others. She's a leech that depends on others ideas, and gets away with it only because people think she's pretty.


The jaw comments make me think they're from PULL. Only place I've seen the mention of her having possible surgery like that, though, I do think she probably gets Botox.

No. 22646

Hm I am undecided on that topic. Do you think she usually edits her face to look slimmer or more pointy?

No. 22647

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Not the anon your talking too, but she has used After Effects if you remember her video from when Rosie first arrived in Japan and how holy fucking wobbly her face was. PULL from my understanding speculates that she still occasionally uses it, probably when she feels her jaw looks to noticeable in videos. ( where its harder to control the angles.

Her face is significantly more meaty in person/candids. ( pic related )

No. 22648

She wasn't in the snowflake section of pull in 2013-2014. Everyone loved her then, no one even mentioned fillers or jaw crap. Really different vibe.

I don't think she started her thread, but the theory isn't completely crazy.

No. 22649

Pretty recently someone on PULL admitted to making the original thread and it was pretty long time poster. They also said they regretted it.

No. 22650

I smell selfpost for controversy. Calm down and don't attack people who believe in her having something done. Some believe it some don't, get over it. This is obsessive.

No. 22651

I was rather asking everyone, not a specific person. And I really cannot put my finger on it but something her face seems to have changed, maybe it is the makeup, maybe After Effects. But I really do not know how to tell the different indicators for editing, makeup or some beauty procedures apart.

No. 22652

2012 is the year Dakota blew up and touched her peak. it's also the year that Venus, Valeria and Anastasia did too, and the "living doll" trend was born. if there's no prior photos of Taylor wearing circle lenses, then I guess 2012 is answer for when she started. maybe she got the years mixed in her video when she said 5-6 years, and it's actually been 4.

No. 22653

she would have been posted eventually anyway. PULL always had that "kota clones" thread for any and every girl who had light brown/blonde hair, blunt bangs, circle lenses, dead stare and jfashion. And Taylor.. (i'm not a regular her threads so sorry if this a controversial thing to say but) she was the biggest fucking kota clone of all time. the only one that could legit be confused for her in some photos/videos until you did a double take. and that's saying a lot considering she doesn't look anything like her when neither are wearing their fake crap.

No. 22654

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What do people think of Taylor's hideous Merch ?

No. 22655

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2012-2017 is 5ish years depending on when in 2012 she started doing it.\
>she was the biggest fucking kota clone of all time
Really? Even compared to this chick?
Picture related.

No. 22656


dif anon, but holy fuck yes it was creepy when KittyPhina ( Sarah ) popped up.

I'm actually shocked that Kaka didn't sperg about it, unless she knew Sarah wasn't a threat. Regardless, Sarah apologized and then changed her shoop style to something much nicer.

Could it be that they all just stole looks/styles/shoop/ideas from one another at some point ? and maybe leave it at that. They're all now starting to branch in their own directions.

No. 22657

This is some of the ugliest merch I have ever seen. I can't believe people are gonna buy this shit… and it is so overpriced.

Is this an inside from one of her sketch bits that are just too cringey for me to go through? Or is this just Taylor yet again copying memes like the "are these x or x" pictures (corgi's butt or loafs of bread)?

In her last vlog she seemed so excited and made such a big deal about her so called "clothing line". She is delusional. I always thought she was a bit childish but as of lately I feel like she's a 10 y/o. Her jokes, the way she talks (especially when she tries to get into those "deep conversations" yet can't leave the surface) and acts just comes off as incredibly childish. I guess that's what happens when you haven't come across any hardship, not even a low level job, in your life.

No. 22658


dunno why she calls it a clothing line when its 2 hideous over priced pairs of PJs and nothing else.

She said it was doing really well and people are buying like crazy in her recent video…

Are people actually buying that shit ? or is she once again over exaggerating ?

No. 22659

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month late, but yes, even compared to her. Even Taylor (much respect) pretty much admitted to the whole thing without specifically saying Dakota's name. Once in her circle lenses video and the other was her "reacting to old videos" one.

Sarah might have re-constructed her photos, but Taylor reconstructed her life, even moving to Japan and admitting to losing modeling opportunities because she wanted to stick with her new "look".

No. 22660

Is it true that Taylor is leaving japan too? I saw a post in the JVloggers thread that said she was leaving along with a few others.

No. 22661


she's expressed eventually she well, but they are at the very least in for another year because of her lease

No. 22662

I have a real issue with how Taylor edits her videos and walks around doing nothing when the title is "Why Am I Leaving?" I watched the whole video and didn't get anything of substance her previous video didn't already state. It's just a lot of looking at Halloween decorations and then awkwardly packing to ~sad piano tunes~.

No. 22663

I'm subbed, but I get so bored when she doesn't address her title or just talks to the camera for ten minutes. I really wish she put more work into her videos. Her fashion ones are kind of decent work, but not enough of it.

No. 22664

she moved to Hong Kong!

No. 22665

I think she lives in or around Tai Koo (I recognize the mall where she was recording). Her place is spacious for HK standards.

No. 22666

They're only there temporarily tho, the house they bought is not finished yet

No. 22667

She got a lot of attention after the nose eyelash extension video and her views grew but I think she's getting more and more boring. Also I don't comprehend how her boyfriend stands her.

No. 22668

She was smart to not mention this until she moved away. Someone was probably trying to confirm her address and hoped she would mention the tape on her door in a blog or tweet.

No. 22669

Well, at least shes honest about how ridiculous she can be, im rather lost for words

No. 22670

As someone who has been to those limited edition events, I can relate with spending a ridiculous amount of money on shit you don't really want. It's a high-school like pressure for fitting in and you end up just feeling bad regardless.
She can turn a big profit on those items, tho. At least in the Tommy Hilfiger sweatshirt.

No. 22671


i can understand it to an extent, peer pressure happens, buyers remorse happens, but those numbers are still madness… hope she sells them and gets some money back

No. 22672

I googlet Tom Lip and found his facebook page, and you can search from his friends to find that there's one Tay For there with the same birthday as Taylor actually has. So it's quite possible that the fb page actually belongs to him.

No. 22673

Her vlogmas intro is the scariest thing I've seen in 2017.

No. 22674

I thought itcwas cute to be honest

No. 22675

The dead, soulless eyes? Lack of any smile? Weird, unnatural movements? Rosie looking like a furry football? Uncanny valley feel throughout?

At least her cheeks were accurately represented.

No. 22676

I saw people on PULL praising her for this as a unique idea but she just edited the recent feather and crown eyebrows that were making their rounds on Twitter. I wish she would stop trying so hard to go viral, I miss her Casey-clone days.

No. 22677

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Saw this today, and they completely credited her.

Its such a ugly trend though…

No. 22678

She finally admitted her age

No. 22679

That is really good. She is still cringy af but she is being a lot more honest about those things, I can admire that. Although, I'd think one would be proud to look like her at 29.

No. 22680

Dafuq, she doesn’t know that WWIII hasn’t happened and about (the Canadian involvement in the) Normandy.

I guess when your sugar daddy is a millionaire you don’t need basic education. Worshipping the Kardashians is much more important anyway. /s

No. 22681

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I don't understand why she insist on dressing like that. She has a nice body..

No. 22682

It looks comfortable and expensive. I hate athleisure but she pulls it off. But, as people pointed out, it's probably for some upcoming godawful video.

I thought her boyfriend looked pretty ancient in the holiday snaps. I know he is older, but they really almost look like father/adopted daughter, partially because of Taylor's style.

No. 22683

Saw this while searching for lash extension "results" from a place in London.


Let's guess whether Taylor actually got her lashes or eyebrows done there or is even associated with them…hmmm

No. 22684

She's gotta be way underweight. Hell my BMI is in the underweight range and I'm not that skinny.

No. 22685

Oh definitely, she looks like a BMI 17 or so
But she models in Asia so that's not surprising

No. 22686

It's ok to be borderline anorexic as long as you're a model

and yeah, I mean, she admits it's not natural. I hate how often she talks about herself as flabby or big or whatever. It was even in her 2017 rewind.

No. 22687

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Anyone else notice that Tom owns beauty exchange and basically gave her the bulk of her exposure? I went all the way back to when she first moved to hong kong and there Taylor is, in a massively popular BE article promoting her. Seems more likely that's the reason she doesn't want people knowing exactly who her bf is since he helped her career so much it doesn't fit with her "work hard for your dreams" persona when you're dating someone with so much social media influence before you made it yourself. Also all those events she gets "invited to" personally as a part of her modelling career are just basically business dinners she's attending along side Tom… so clearly she's purposely bending the truth in her favor to look more hard working and successful than she really is and to promote her "brand" This could be old news though i just couldn't find the energy to read the entire thread LOL(read the rules & usage info)

No. 22688

She finally admits it was all a lie. Makeup, lighting, camera that alters your face shape in real time, facetune, etc.

No. 22689

She's the most respectable cow imo

No. 22690

No. 22691

Taylor finally got an assistant.. for what exactly? She doesn't even run errands, just holds the camera (and sucks at it thats why they had to buy an stabilizer). How lazy can you be?

No. 22692

Subtle dig at lolcow when she says she knows who made the gif? I enjoyed her honesty and the nostalgia in this video

It's weird hearing her assistant talking from behind the camera, especially when they don't seem to really know each other well, it makes the assistant seem more like the blogger and tay is the Sharla-like friend on show

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She took picture with this girl who happens to be the editor of beauty exchange who was at the paris event she was just at. Just kinda tells me that BE is who got invited to the event as a company hence why tom was there. Not sure why she'd lie and say "omg i have no idea why someone like me would be invited to a beauty guru event" when she wasn't she was the businesses +1 just like the editor girl was.(read the rules & usage info)

No. 22694

think its interesting how she has gotten a comment under her newest instagram pic (the one in the red thing "Last Night") saying sth like "the way you're showing your wealth gets out of hand taylor…" (sth similar like this)and a day later it has been deleted. Seems like she rly tries to hide this topic in fornt of her fanbase

No. 22695

I think it's more like BE is the team documenting her on that trip. One girl was there to take photos of Taylor and the rest of the HK "influencers" No7, etc.

Comment's still there. It just got lost in all of the others.

No. 22696

Why can’t Taylor just be a part of the Jvlogger threads? Everything has died down now.

No. 22697

Because she's not a jvlogger anymore.

No. 22698

Once again Taylor fakes cutting her hair. She's been wanting to cut it for a couple years but won't because her sugardaddy only likes long hair.

No. 22699

6:55 "I don't care what people think, I wear what I want to wear"
Then go ahead and cut your fucking hair taylor

No. 22700

boyfriend is 40 years old, found an interview from 2010 and he was making $600k HKD (~$76k USD) income a month back then… who knows how much now… if anything Tay is

Chinese name is 聶x134子〇y明 (added gibberish in the middle to hopefully reduce the odds this will come up in a google search– I don't wanna ruin this guys rep or anything, just enjoy a bit of delicious youtuber gossip)

Weird she said he was Korean before, dude's 100% HKer, went to HKUST even.

No. 22701

It amazes me how she's still using his bf for money even for her supposed to be sweet "proposal" in her latest video. Like seriously, all these years, living off your 40 years old money is not enough and you need to use him for views (Since she knows when she post anything about Elbow-San, the views will be high compared to her other boring videos) and getting money from it on Youtube for this special occasion..wow Taylor, you must be a true definition of a first class gold digger. I adore you! From now on, you're my idol. LOL

No. 22702

A little bit of backstory, and she confirmed publicly that his name is Tom and they've been together since 2013

No. 22703

LOL as expected. Still using the sugardaddy for the money. She should give credit to the "fiance" for filming it (so she can use it for her youtube income) and also she needs to give him credits for A LOT of things in her life. He basically gave her everything. Career, house, her luxury travels..basically her whole life. You go girl!

No. 22704

Lol why are you so salty… Youtube is her job, she vlogs every boring thing in her life, she was obviously going to show her engagement. And her fiance was the one who filmed the proposal, not her. People throw around sugar daddy all the time, her relationship is not like Yumi Kings

No. 22705

Hahahahaha that comment “true definition of a first class gold digger” I can’t. So funny

No. 22706

Why are you people blaming her for being a gold digger. It’s a good thing. We need to find Moneybag-san for ourselves too. Taylor, can you find us a sugar daddy too and what are the tips to get one since you’re great at it. Thanks.

No. 22707


tbh the difference between Taylor R and Yumi King would make for a fascinating comparative case study for a sociologist focusing on AsianXwhite interracial relationships

No. 22708


socioeconomic status. use of language. racialized standards of beauty. could go on and on

No. 22709

Not sure and don’t really care about the sugar daddy thing,but he is definitely ugly as hell.Stop trying to take cute pictures, you are FUCKING 40 YEARS OLD!

No. 22710

Taylor R = Katharine McPhee.

No. 22711

he is older than 40 actually. definitely mid-40s if not older. I remember seeing his birth year somewhere and was a bit surprised.

I'm sure her family is a bit surprised by this pairing, but he made her career, so I guess they can't complain.

No. 22712

also kek at that childish note she wrote him
how many times did she write soulmate in that 3rd-grade cursive? She almost misspelled it once too. Imagine their early relationship.

No. 22713

the fucking proposal video looked like something a 3rd grader would do on a windows movie maker back in 2009, wtf taytay.

No. 22714

That Jackie Chan lookalike must be into girls that looks like a 3rd grader with 3rd grade cursive handwriting . Creeeeepy

No. 22715

I remember the first time she talked about her boyfriend in her channel. At the time I thought she was dating a hot dude. She was really proud of her boyfriend somehow. Looks like I was wrong

No. 22716

he looks nothing like jackie chan.

No. 22717

Yes, but worst.

No. 22718

just don't know what kind of person you are to call any random chinese guy jackie chan. It's probably something you shouldn't do in real life.

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No. 22720


Eh, maybe she's getting work done again. Last time she became secretive and wore a mask she got cheek fillers. She always did express wanting larger boobs, so maybe its her pre-wedding gift.

No. 22721

But she's saying she has a health problem anon. If it was a breast job she could hide it in other ways.

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Elbow san aint too shabby looking though compared to what she could have gone for. Its not like he’s some grey old grandpa.

No. 22723

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No. 22724


gotta milk it for money of course ! with a click bait title for them views. " I almost died and went to the hospital : gallbladder stones/ removal" …. Why are weebs so dramatic and extra about everything ?

No. 22725

Why don't you wait to hear what it is, before declaring it click-bait. Besides, I would imagine that after having emergency surgery she probably doesn't have the energy the write a long mult-tweet screed to detail her exact medical conditions.

No. 22726

It takes two seconds to say what the problem is, but by doing so it ends all the traffic and sympathy that youtubers get from speculation alone.

If it was truly serious, you wouldn't see so many gleefully vague updates.

No. 22727

She made 1 update since surgery anon, chill. No one said it was serious but surgery of any kind knocks you out and makes you feel like shit.

No. 22728

My money is on appendix removal. Wonder how much clickbait videos she’ll be able to stretch this into.

No. 22729

>surgery of any kind knocks you out and makes you feel like shit

OT but this is not even close to reality.

Not all surgeries require patients to be knocked out, and not all anesthesia will make patients feel like shit.

No. 22730

She don’t care. All she want is views, likes and money. Lol

No. 22731


She updated IG saying she has what looks like three stab marks on her tummy and feels "bad ass".

I'm sorry, but she probably saw the huge view count Venus got from talking about surgery and health problems she just wants a piece of them views . Sounds exactly like gallbladder stones, its more likely than appendix removal. My sister had the same and described the same problems with the same scars.

I mean we are talking about Taylor, the girl who cried on camera 13 years later about being chubby/skinny fat in grade school for sympathy. The girl who cries on camera because of a few pimples. She cries wolf for everything for them views and sympathy.

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No. 22733

“I started this year saying I wanted a ripped 6 pack, i always sought after the “perfect stomach” and now I’m lying here with 3 permanent scars on it & I can’t exercise for 3 months”

Get over it taylor. Other people are dying but never complains, still trying hard to live their life to the fullest. They don’t just sit there, complaining like a baby on twitter and instagram like you.

No. 22734

she probably has three tiny laparoscopy wounds. Mine were nearly impossible to see after 6 months.

No. 22735


LOL, she's never had any muscle tone to begin with, and has always had an ugly boxy waist line.

No. 22736

I dislike Taylor a lot, but I think she had some muscle tone. I tried her (ripped-off from some ballet fitness youtuber) workouts from 2015-2016. They require a certain amount of muscle strength. I'm sure she filmed those in segments so she could stop & rest & look kawaii, but she had the strength to do them.

I do not think you can lose all your muscle and "butt" (if she really built muscle over months) in a week or two. That's ridiculous.

If you think her waistline is ugly, I wonder what you think of practically every other person on earth. She's got a straighter body type, that's all. You won't see this shape )( because her hips are fairly narrow. There's not much she can do about that.

Her disordered perception of her body and food - and her marketing of this perception as normal - is what makes my blood boil. She's fake & is obsessed with going viral. But her body is fine, or it would be, if she stopped trying to make it into something it isn't. (That includes her restriction diet and the butt obsession.)

But again, she's an incredibly pampered woman who doesn't have to worry about paying bills or having a roof over her head. It's very deceptive that she tries to come across as normal while having almost no job. And if Youtube is her job, then where are her videos?

No. 22737

In HK and Japan they tend to stay in the hospital for longer than in N America, it's just part of their protocols. That being said I had appendicitis in N America a couple months ago and the whole thing was over within three days. Surgery and was ready to walk again. Milking something as average as appendix removal for longer than a week, while it seems like something she would do, doesn't seem like that's the issue. And they don't do exploratory surgery like that.
My bet is that she has fibroids or endometriosis because she's always had problems with her period and now that she's ready to have kids you have to get that shit sorted out.

No. 22738


She needs to work on her mental health and body image issues before having kids seeing as a couple of pounds and 3 little scars have set her in a spiral. I can't imagine what she's going to do when she is pregnant and can't even see her toes.

tbh I think she's just being a giant piss baby and it probably was something simple that she's now milking it. Were talking about the girl who cried 13 years after the fact about being a little chubby in grade school. She literally click baits and milks every little thing, and whines constantly about having 3-4 pimples on her jaw and about how rough her life is.

No. 22739

her going on about being chubby in grade school drives me nuts. she wasn't even chubby and "took" care of it by the time she was 14. no one really makes fun of chubby girls until they're well into their teens anyways. her sister looks fucking great while pregnant/post partum, hope she can take a hint from that.

No. 22740

She was really young - in elementary and middle school (not even a teen). It's shameful that she went on a diet at that age.

Imagine if she hadn't, and she had just waited to grow out of this phase like a normal kid. It's very possible she stunted her own growth by dieting in puberty. She could have grown taller and been a ~vouge model~ like she always wanted.

I still laugh at that misspelling of Vogue after some farmer pointed it out in her draw my life video.

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No. 22742


I'm doubtful she even dieted at that age as she always has the tendency to make herself sound like a hard worker. It was probably one of those over summer things, or gradually over a year type of thing. Taylor's a lazy shit that makes everything sound hard and rough.

Her whole I was fat once video was really deceitful too, notice how she only used pictures of her looking unhappy to give the impression she had a miserable childhood. Yet when she bought pictures up in her best friend's wedding video it was FULL of really happy pictures of her living her life and being a silly happy child.

I have never seen someone so desperate to seem average and coming from a rough/hard working life. Every other gal is desperately trying to seem luxurious and rich. (Tooter's and every intathot )

No. 22743

>I'm doubtful she even dieted at that age

given that her family are all "perfect rich blondes" wouldn't surprise me if her mom gave her a hint towards "healthy options"

No. 22744

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Her fat video is like the height of fakeness. If you rewatch it, you'll discover new gems. At the end, she has a single tear (or maybe some contact lens solution) running down her face as she reminds her followers, "And remember, I'll always be here."

I know Taylor is not (really) a true cow most of the time, but there's something really pathetic about her thirst for fame and attention.

No. 22745


The thing that ticked me off the most with her wasn't even her fakeness. Its her fucking pity parties she throws for herself. Girl is always playing that tiny violin, like everything in her life is tragic and was a big ordeal to overcome. Like when she talked about speaking with Venus and made reference that she's been thru so many similar experiences as V. She really wants to be seen as this victim that came out strong, when in actuality she's this lazy spoiled turd that got even more pretentious and spoiled.

And kek, that image/screen shot is when she had hardcore cheek fillers, and had to film at specific angles and lighting. She was just as stiff as Kota was.

No. 22746

kind of messed up for her to milk this as much as she did tbh

No. 22747

I'm probably late to say this but she probably noticed how much attention Venus' hospitalization got and decided to bandwagon.

No. 22748

I seriously think it’s time for her to stop making videos at all. All she did was click bait videos and video with rubbish contents. I used to love her vlogs but these days she looks like she’s trying so hard. It’s so annoying to look at her to the point that even her crappy ponytail with weird hair on the face annoys me. Sorry Taylor, it’s time. Goodbye.

No. 22749

Her stare-at-the-camera-with-big-eyes, creepy smile, horse ponytail and to be honest, disgusting looking bangs…..

I thought I’m the only one who hates looking at it.

No. 22750


Can someone TLDR this please?

No. 22751

She started to have a lot of pain in her lower stomach/pelvic region and was afraid she had appendicitis. She had an ovarian cyst and one of her ovaries twisted itself because of it. She was scared she would possibly have a huge Caesarian section style scar but they only needed to make 3 little incisions and everything was fine. She was triggered by the swelling because she couldn’t fit any of her clothes and had to wear pjs.

No. 22752

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Small conspiracy theory but I think she's getting married this week.

In her "What Happened" video she mentioned that she felt SUPER IN LOVE DESU with Elbow-san because he sat in her hospital room all day, and that she wanted to elope and have his babies right away. She showed a text from her mother telling her to do it, and now she's in Canada according to her most recent video. She recently got her nails painted in a white colour and casually mentioned she's "never had white nails before". She also said in her most recent video she wants to get pregnant soon to prevent herself getting more ovarian cysts.

I think she's going to speedrun the whole wedding/early marriage/pregnancy part due to her nEaR DeAtH ExPeRiEnCe with ovarian cysts and she's going to get married while she's in Canada.

No. 22753

Is it just me or she sound sooooooooo thirsty in her hospital and newest video. Chill woman. We get it that you just got engaged. No one is taking Moneybag-san away from you. No need to be so desperate and thirsty all the time.

Maybe she’s toooo happy that finally she’s gonna have Moneybag-san’s money to fund her forever (well IF they’re together forever )

No. 22754

She always say that she’s working on something, creating videos, planning this and that….but wait. Where is the videos then? What videos? What project? All she did was following his “fiance” to meetings in other countries to eat and shop. No wonder people call her a goldigger and he is her sugar daddy. Cause i’m sure he paid for everything, she just have to look like she’s working hard on something when she doesn’t even do anything. All she did was complaining. You should stop complaining when everything was given to you and you did nothing at all.

No. 22755


How many friends does Taylor actually have? How big is her extended family?

On the other hand, I'm having a hard time imagining Tom being okay with that. Ethnic Chinese families tend to be huge and Asian weddings tend to have hundreds of guests, especially for a prominent businessman he would be expected to attend his associates' weddings and then invite them to his.

Maybe they'll do a small Western style service in Canada followed by a wedding banquet in Hong Kong? I've seen that pattern for lots of friends in cross-cultural marriages. Even Jay Chou did something similar i think

No. 22756


Lol these posts unwitting come across as salty or jealous.

There are men that like spoiling their gf/wife. Especially in Chinese cultures, it's a point of pride that you make enough money that your wife doesn't have to work. Being able to have a beautiful white wife, who is much younger, and respectful and interested in the culture, that doesn't have to work a "real job" is like living the dream of success for some Asian men.

Here's a video about wealthy Hong Kong housewives :

No. 22757

You mean marrying a lazy ass and a spoiled brat white woman?

Maybe that’s why they marry them (a beautiful white woman,much younger, and doesn’t have to work), because i think many Asian women wants to be independent and work hard on their own instead of just looking pretty, lazy and being spoiled easily like them. LOL

No. 22758


>i think many Asian women wants to be independent and work hard on their own instead of just looking pretty, lazy and being spoiled

…You don't know many Asian women do you

No. 22759

>spoiled brat
It's funny how many times this assertion gets thrown around with out any proof. Taylor may be spoiled by Tom but she's never been a brat.
You've never lived in Asia have you anon?
Looking pretty and not having to work is still considered the ideal in a lot of east asian countries.

No. 22760

I started watching her videos since last year, i only love her vlogs when she’s back in Canada. Because she is always happy and putting an effort into her vlogs. But i must say, i agree with the anon, she’s probably used to be given a lot of things by her rich family or rich fiancé that she doesn’t feel the need to work hard on anything she do like other youtubers. You can see from her videos that she’s just doing it without any effort and most of her videos are boring and contentless, or clickbait videos. Such a let down. Sometimes she only complaints in her videos too, which kinda sucks to watch..it makes me don’t want to click to watch it anymore. But it is understandable when you don’t have to worry either you’re getting income from the videos or not,since she have rich family and fiancé who can just support her financially. I’m saying this as a viewer about her as a youtuber not as a person. Who knows, maybe she is a hard working person outside of Youtube. Maybe. Who knows.

No. 22761

Taylor isn't very young though, so she will probably have kids soon. That video is very sad, wouldn't be surprised if Taylor's husband cheats on her eventually as well.

No. 22762

anon are you 12?

No. 22763

All her videos are not worth watching anymore. It's either clickbait videos, her being boring or videos of her showing off his fiance's money. Not worth watching at all.

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This time it wasn’t clickbait. She got an uneven haircut, patchy color with no dimension. Apparently she wants to go even shorter. Brace yourselves for future videos where she complains and regrets it all.

No. 22765

She really doesn't suit this look at all, yeesh.

No. 22766

Two videos about a Mimei looking haircut and dye job, really?

No. 22767

Lol maybe she is desperate. The sugardaddy doesn’t like the new hair so might have cut down her allowance. Need to earn more money from youtube from now on lol

No. 22768

Indeed. He said he likes long hair better on her last video. Not a smart move cause now sugardaddy is not pleased.

No. 22769

He liked the dolly look too, which says a lot about him.

Her current hair isn't the kind of hair you'd get when you're about to have a wedding or have kids, so I expect it'll be a while for either.

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I wonder what he thinks of this homeless style

No. 22771


she really does not have the face for this hairstyle. at least with normal hair she looked normal pretty, this edgier look just makes it clear how plain her face is.

No. 22772

Is it just me or can you guys see how desperate and how she tried so hard to look cute and loving whenever she’s with him in her latest video. I mean, with her age, it’s uncomfortable to even look at her try-hard to-look-cute attitude. Major cringy!

No. 22773

I just hate how she always make fun of the duck tape on the window that Hong Kong people always do in her new video. If you don’t believe in it, you don’t have to make fun of it. So disrespectful of other peoples’ beliefs. Shame on you.

No. 22774

actually that's a common gag in HK now, she probably copied it like everything that goes viral - some HK people were buying every masking tape and then reselling it at a higher price. Some HK people started mocking these tape resellers and putting tape on their phones or watches, claiming to protect what's important to them.
What made me annoyed - aside of her behavior - was her talking about the shelter that she didn't bother to visit for last few months, and when they needed the help after typhoon she didn't even go there to help them out. I know her fans will donate some money, and that's great, but she has all the time and money and the world to actually help them out, yet she prefers to sit at home, watch netflix or youtube and ask others for help. PR stunt, that's all it was.

No. 22775

So many people are doing volunteer cleanups and helping their communities out, but she doesn't even bother to integrate into the country. She's too busy saying she's 'stressed' over superficial problems that aren't even hers.

So I'm not surprised she doesn't help anyone out. This attitude is why she wouldn't have close friends beyond her own family.

No. 22776

Apparently for pulltards she was absolutely respectful but I thought she wasn’t. I got kinda of upset too but she lives in her own little bubble so what does she care. She made herself look like an idiot at the beginning when she had no idea what the tape is for.

No. 22777


There have been so many times in her videos that I've been astounded at how dumb/sheltered she is, and she doesn't even seem to realise it because she doesn't edit it out of the video. For someone that's done so much travelling and lived in various countries, you would think she'd pick up an open mind or an interest in other cultures, but she really is as thick as a plank of wood.

No. 22778

I sometimes wonder if she was less pretty would she actually be more intelligent and less ignorant? Literally the moment she hooked up with Tom she gave up her studies in Hong Kong, but then when I come to think about it I think she only did it for visa… I don’t wish her bad but does she even have a plan if he leaves her? Obviously the flat they are getting will be only under his name as 1. She won’t get the mortgage as she doesn’t have stable income 2. As a non-permanent resident she would need to pay additional tax - that would leave her with no place to live, no education, long gone modeling. Is being a YouTuber her contingency plan just in case?

No. 22779


Her family has enough money that I don't think she's ever been worried about what would happen if everything failed. She knows she could just go home and start again with support from both her parents.

And also, I don't think her looks caused her ignorance. There are good looking people who are smart. And it's not just that she isn't 'book smart' (like good at maths or passing tests or whatever), it's more that she doesn't seem to have any kind of appreciation or curiosity for new things. She's very one dimensional.

No. 22780

>she was absolutely respectful

I thought it was messy asking her fans, most of which are poorfag teens, to donate to a pet shelter in HongKong while she literally does the least.

No. 22781

but if you noticed how her sibling lives, they do not seem to get that much financial support form the family. I know they are wealthy and she definitely wouldn't be starving, but I don't think they would be thrilled to help a 30yo ex model youtuber at all the time. And let's face it - if she moved to Canada she most likely would lose plenty of subscribers as her content is very boring, all she has to show now is her wealthy. She wouldn't even be able to do all these stupid DIYs as she probably wouldn't have spare money to spend on art supplies.

On a side note - I wonder how Elbow explains to his business partners the weird videos his fiance shoots. I know he's doing beauty exchange and that's not really an industry that requires strict behavior, but in general, does she even consider how it affect his image as a businessman? I used to like her videos, more or less, but now she behaves like a 12 yo it's just so annoying.

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She’s always creepy af when it comes to her “assistant” “I hope to keep laughing with you forever” it’s just too cringy.


This is true however doesn’t even care to keep her sugardaddy and main source of income happy which is not smart at all.

No. 22783

what on earth is she wearing? plus those hideous LV sneakers … well, money won't buy you good taste

No. 22784


… How do you know she didn't do anything? If she donated and told people about it, everyone would be moaning about her showing off, so she's damned if she does and if she doesn't. The roads were cut off by trees, how could she even made it there? This thread has gotten so salty and nitpicky and whiny it makes me miss Kiki.

No. 22785

somehow other volunteers got there to help - I guess they have a flying carpet or something. asking for money is the easiest way to get some good PR without doing much which she mastered. perfect image without doing much. I'm not salty about her staying nice and cozy at home and not helping out, but by the fact she uses these animals as a PR stunt.

cool she donated money (if she did, not just asked others), but so are other people. even the lady who runs the place crosses the boarder every day while princess taylor is being lazy at home and giving out to people how you need to work hard to achieve your dreams (which makes me laugh every time she says this)

No. 22786

Yeah stop excusing her and go back to pull.

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Hanging out with her poor friend lol

No. 22788


sage for tinfoil but both the outfits she's wearing in Sharla's instagram story have baggy tops. That grey sweatshirt pictured and then a green tracksuit.

Wonder if she's hiding something under there?

No. 22789

I doubt it, she has been liking baggy tops for some time. She had the surgery tho, so she might feel more comfortable wearing things that don't touch the scars if the scars feel weird still or something?

No. 22790

>… How do you know she didn't do anything?

And how do you know that she did? She already overshares that she does nothing all day.

These pics look too staged to seem natural at a glance.

No. 22791


To be fair she doesn't speak the language and doesn't have practical skills that would be helpful in a disaster. We don't know how much of their income they are contributing to relief efforts.

Also as someone who lived in the region before: typhoons happen every year. Yes, this one was a particularly bad one, but there were no deaths in Hong Kong, so it's a lower scale tragedy than you might think.

In a disaster scenario, the worst thing is when well-meaning foreigners barge in and try to "volunteer". Between their basic needs, translators, training them in the necessary disaster relief skills, they end up doing more harm than good. Cash is the best thing people can do

No. 22792


A flat can be in both people's names even if only one person gets the mortgage/pays the mortgage.
Also, aren't they buying a flat in Toronto too?

No. 22793

>And how do you know that she did?

I don't, and neither does the other anon, so hating on her for possibly not doing anything is fucking stupid and makes the anon seem like a salty teenager.

>she did x in her video so obviously she is y! reeeeeeeeeeee!

Come on now

No. 22794

it can be but then they would need to pay extra tax just because she is a foreigner - I don't think he would be OK to throw money away like that

No. 22795

for someone who shares their reaction to IG post on a toilet in her video, I'm pretty sure she would share if she did anything. she's just lazy and you can't admit that.

No. 22796

Taylor stans are wild af taking things personal.

No. 22797

Did you notice where you are?

Aka pulltards

No. 22798

Sorry, I thought I was on lolcow where nitpicking and tinfoiling is usually discouraged, not Salt Sperg City.

>no hate boner reaching for the stars - must be a stan

You act as if she shares things on Momokuns level, when she barely posts on instagram and makes one video a week at most. She's not smart, do you really think she could have done anything at the sanctuary? To me it's obvious that she donated too, so I really don't see a reason she should state that "yeah, btw, I donated". She also said that you don't have to donate and it's enough if you would just share the news, so it's not like her fans will feel that they absolutely have to give their pocket money. True, she is lazy, and donating is a lazy persons way to feel accomplished, so I really don't see a problem with this.

No. 22799

>To me it's obvious that she donated too

Not that anon, but you're stanning and projecting big time.

No. 22800

She's rich and lazy and knows the people who run the shelter, so I think it's more plausible she did than that she didn't. Not mentioning your donation or the amount is pretty standard because mentioning it seems braggy. We will not know whether she did or didn't donate, so anons crying about what an awful bitch she is for not donating are cringy speculators. Why is everybody so offended by me saying that there is a possibility she did donate? Everyone does something nice every once in a while even if they are total bitches, so it's not that far fetched.

No. 22801


My guess then would be that the Hong Kong flat is in his name and the Toronto flat will be in her name or both of their names

No. 22802


>On a side note - I wonder how Elbow explains to his business partners the weird videos his fiance shoots.

I feel like her videos are totally acceptable? The older ones where she is weeaboo cringy are kinda cringe, but if you go to her channel now it's her being cute and eating Hong Kong food and talking about dogs.
I think she makes a pretty good accessory for him since she's super pretty and obviously into the culture.
Would like to see her learning more Cantonese though.

No. 22803

I don’t talk about vlogs or travel videos, more like those cringy nose hair extensions

No. 22804

It’s not about donating or not, it’s about her making two videos to get good PR (lady who helps the shelter provides her with her dog food: look up furry kitchen), then she didn’t even bother to go a single time in meantime. She will mention it once every three months if sth happens, but won’t move her lazy ass to actually make a change like she said she will - she has all the time and money to do so, yet she’s fake like always and using animals as PR stunt is disgusting to me. She did some good, but it’s not that no one knew that place before - they were pretty known in HK already, without her input.
You can disagree with me but you won’t change my mind about her actions

No. 22805

Lol i doubt that he is okay with it. That’s why he never appear in her videos on Youtube or pictures on Instagram much. You can totally see and tell that he is not interested about her videos from her latest video. He doesn’t even want to be in it. Well I can’t blame him. It’s just going to affect his image as a successful businessman.

That’s the point of having a beautiful wife when that’s the only thing you can show off about her. Obviously that’s the only thing he can show off, since smart, hardworking or a successful youtuber is not on the list.

No. 22806

I believe he doesn't appear on her stuff too much since East Asians are often very private and shy about that stuff? He seems to be fine with her content and they seem to have a similar sense of humor too. If he only liked her for her dolly look he could easily drop her, since Japan and Korea are full of blond, cute girls. I don't think Taylor is a total bimbo, she just seems a little awkward and silly, and most of her videos are just fine. If they really have a sugar relationship and he isn't okay with the videos, he can just tell her not to do them, but I'm not really buying the sugar daddy theory that much since they seem to really like each other.

No. 22807


this. I've been in a similar relationship and while yes the looks-money exchange is real, the people often also develop feelings for each other. For all we know Elbow also goes to see prostitutes or has other women on the side but the fact that he's proposed to Taylor and allows her to be public about the relationship pretty much indicates he does care about her. Nobody puts a ring on a sugar baby lol

No. 22808

It's not really a "looks-money exchange". Most men are embarrassed of being seen that way. But they just happen to shower affection (including in a material sense) on a woman who is young and pretty. And the woman adores him in response.

It's like the never-ending argument of whether cats really love their owners or if they just view the owners as a source of cat food tins.

No. 22809

Don’t go too hard saying the truth about her, taylovers may have a seizure.
>For all we know Elbow also goes to see prostitutes or has other women on the side
Lmao what? How do you know this? Just curious

No. 22810


just describing some typical situations in which Chinese guys have sexual relations with many women but still have a wife (正妻)
seems tay is the 正妻 in this scenario

No. 22811

I think she deleted most of her old weeaboo vids now.

She has so little going on that she literally got a haircut she doesn't like (nor does anyone seem to like) and buys things to have content. Donating, such as even showing a walkthrough of how to donate as she does it, and helping out is content she would have used without hesitation.

No. 22812

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This is now Taylor should be styling herself.

No. 22813

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While her fiancé works hard this is what she does for a living lol

No. 22814

I always giggle seeing people WK her and saying she has money because ‘she works hard’ - nah, think again
I agree YT can be a job for someone, but to her it’s just a hobby - have it or not, won’t make a difference. She just wants to get viral - AGAIN.

She’s pretty and thanks to Tom she doesn’t need to worry about anything when it comes to finance - is her only ambition is to be YouTube famous? She could do anything with her life yet she chooses to do half ass videos every now and then for YouTube

No. 22815

Close but not quite with those eyebrows.

No. 22816

Her videos are rubbish. It’s fun to watch how she use her stupidity to be famous. Well it worked, she did look stupid in all her videos.

No. 22817

No wonder she follows him around like crazy, she looks like she has no own life. Always following him to business trips. Probably she’s afraid that the sugar daddy will find another baby daddy while he is away. But it’s embarrassing to watch how she never work on her own in her life and always depends on the guy on everything . What a shame to live like that.

No. 22818


Who said she works hard? She's obviously aiming for the housewife role. I imagine after the marriage she will have kids and focus on that.

They're engaged, I'm pretty sure that means she's been upgraded from sugar baby to trophy wife

No. 22819

She had many videos where she says she works hard but never shows it. She stopped talking about working hard to acheive dreams~ after people revealed the sugar daddy.

When she has kids, she'll pay other people to raise them while she works harder on maintaining a youthful look and gets rid of her pet. Expecting her to end up similar to Xiaxue in terms of content, but less original.

No. 22820

Of course she have to maintain herself after she have kids, because if she don’t, do you think the baby daddy will still like her if she’s no longer pretty? I don’t think so. Because other than looking pretty, she got nothing else that she can be proud of. If baby daddy is gone, she’done.

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Are they in love tho? More like conveniently together

No. 22822

I know that anons want desperately for some reason for their relationship to just be a sugar thing, but judging by what we know now, it just doesn't seem like it to me.
After all if that's all Tom wanted he could easily land a girl that's prettier and more normal than Tay. For better or for worse I think they love each other.

No. 22823

I think they love each other now, but it started as sugar daddy thing. I mean, if he owned a noodle store or be a regular salary man who cannot help her in career in HK to stand against so many other white models - would she even bothered to go out with semi attractive older dude? Doubt it.

No. 22824

No one is desperately looking for a reason. Because it is the truth, everyone can see this is a sugar thing. What annoys me is that how she always try to show that this isn’t and say that she works hard for everything she earned in her life. Like seriously? Bullshit. Even the most successful girl on YouTube (Zoella), you can see how she work so hard in her daily life and put an effort in every videos she uploaded to live luxurious like she is living now. But her? Did she even work hard or put an effort in her videos besides just looking pretty, complains on videos, do stupid things on videos and follow her fiancé around like a crazy jealous wife. She is a lazy ass and spoiled giant baby.

With that face and age (no offense Tom) do you think she will like him if he is not a rich businessman? I bet she will already make a video about an pervert old man that creeps her out (about him) if he is not that rich lol

But it’s a win-win situation for them, he might like a bimbo that is also an easy girl like her who he can show to his friends and be proud of (this is very common in Asia), and she needs a guy who can support her financially and spoiled her with luxury things when she doesn’t have to work to earn money.

No. 22825

Thank you anon!!! Finally someone said it.
Even a millionaire like Zoe work 100 times harder in her life and put effort to every of her videos than Taylor lol if she work just half the effort and be hardworking just like her, no one will be able to say anything about how she just depends on her fiancé money to support her financially….

“Lazy ass and spoiled giant baby”
Omg so mean but so true at the same time…LOL

No. 22826

What do you expect with Taylor stans…
it is obvious Tom is her sugar daddy for the reasons you have already said. That’s why when I saw the wedding card that says “brilliantly in love”, besides being cringey af it sounds very off.

No. 22827

Not even her wedding is going to be original. She says she wants a dress like some Italian woman and bridesmaid dresses like Kate Moss wedding. Wouldn’t it be nice to have an original wedding instead of copying from other people?

No. 22828

Not agreeing with salty weebs =/= stanning, anon. I don't remember ever seeing a thread with so much reaching and saltiness about someone so uncontroversial, drama free and bland. I really don't get how she can raise such an anger out of some anons. I wish there were two threads for her - one for salty, jealous weebs to circlejerk in, and one for actual discussion without crazy fanfiction by underaged people. Not that she's in any way milky, but she does some annoying and cringy things sometimes that would be fun to talk about.

No. 22829

Agreed anon. Taylor's an airhead who's often cringy af, but the shitty ESL fanfic that some anons come up with is just goofy.

>it is obvious Tom is her sugar daddy for the reasons you have already said
What reasons? That anon didn't give any reasons. They just went into a weird invective about "work hard" and Zoella.

I don't think she's a sugar-baby because she doesn't live the life. All of the girls that I know that sugared would not be content with Taylor's lifestyle. These girls had expensive apts in NYC paid for them -that they lived in alone. They were given Hermes Birkin bags. They had a 5-10k monthly allowance that they spent freely. They shopped at Gucci/Chanel/Balmain on the regular. They traveled to St Tropez and Dubai. Not one of them married their sugar daddies.

No. 22830


he will want to ensure his "genetically superior" (barf) halfie kids have a good upbringing.

I think the bigger question is whether or not Tay can be that mother. Canadians don't have the crazy stressful mothering style Chinese moms do.

No. 22831

I'm in a relationship with a man who is older (about a decade older) and much wealthier than myself, and he's not conventionally attractive.
Money is definitely a factor but I can also say I genuinely love him. Looks aren't everything. Think about it when you get old everyone looks bad but the personality remains.

No. 22832

It’s not like the idea of her being his sugar baby is totally crazy. Besides not all sugar baby and daddy relationships are the same.

No. 22833

It is if you have either sugared or know people who have (which you clearly haven't and don't).
Taylor and Tom have been together for 5 years and their relationship has had a fairly ordinary organic progression.
-internet friends
-irl friends
-dating not living together
-dating and living together
I have never met a sugar baby whose sugar relationship had that trajectory.

No. 22834

You forgot

-promoted her youtube career though partnerships and paid outreach
-connects her with agencies and gigs through his company to keep her busy and even pays for a manager to escort her around so she never has to learn foreign languages
-pays for her beauty upkeep on top of rent
-will throw a lot of cash at whatever she needs to follow viral trends

It might not be straight forward sugaring, but the relationship dynamic being advantageous to both is there like >>22824 said.

You don't have to be a weeb to think something is off about the two. Even a normalfag just looking at their pics would wonder why the couple is together with such a gap.

No. 22835

And you're just making things up to suit your favored narrative.

>promoted her youtube career though partnerships and paid outreach

He promoted her through Beautyexchange which she blogged for. He has also promoted other beautyexchange bloggers. I think given their relationship, he probably shouldn't have done that but it's not really a red flag to me.
>connects her with agencies and gigs through his company to keep her busy and even pays for a manager to escort her around so she never has to learn foreign languages
What agencies? She's not signed at all now and when she was it was long before she even met Tom. Satoru was her Japanese agency from the beginning (from her earliest trips to Japan). While she was there, it was her booker at Satoru who escorted her and that made sense with what she was doing. Her being at BeautyExchange events is mutually beneficial because whether you like her or not she a relatively popular youtuber (especially for her market).
>pays for her beauty upkeep on top of rent
Rent for the home they live in together.
What beauty upkeep? Before this year she was only coloring her hair 2-3 times a year. She wears mostly middle tier makeup, and she doesn't go to the aesthetician for cool-sculpting or anything. And since I don't believe she had anything more invasive than fillers, that's not much of an expense either.
>will throw a lot of cash at whatever she needs to follow viral trends.
Most of her viral videos have been DIYs. A sugar-baby would have actually gotten real Vetements or Saint Laurent.

And that's the point I'm trying to make. I don't think what he does for her is beyond what a person of means would normally do for their partner who they support and love.

Newsflash: rich people have relationships. Attractive people have relationships. Sometimes they have them with each other. She would hardly be the first model to choose someone who wasn't conventionally attractive but treated her like she hung the moon. And judging by his actions, it would seem that he does. (Dude was out with her at ass-o'clock in the morning to film her flailing around to the Yokai Watch theme twice-if that's not devotion, I'm not sure what is)
This anon summed it up nicely.

No. 22836

Anon, human relationships are complex, they don’t always fit your mould or any other.
Only they know what kind of relationship they have and we can only speculate. I think they’re just used to each other now but they are just together out of convenience.

No. 22837

Agreed. It's quite blatantly not a sugar baby thing. It's a normal/traditional format of a relationship. Note her family are also rich, and she will have her own money and savings from working. The only issue I have with their portrayed relationship is he is very short/aloof when speaking to her in English. I'd like to see them converse in Cantonese to see if that is more organic.

No. 22838

I just wanted to say something similar!

I just cannot understand how they can hold a deeper conversation when he seems to have problems explaining simple things - I’m not sure if that’s just him being stressed out knowing whatever he says may be in a video and people would judge him or simply his English is OK for simple conversations but it’s just not good enough to have a dynamic normal talk.
He seems very slow when responding to her and his sentences are short and simple.

I’m not a native English speaker, neither is my husband, we do not speak each other languages so we have to speak English to each other and I don’t want it to sound like bragging but our spoken English is much better. I wouldn’t be able to be with someone I cannot communicate normally - doesn’t matter in what language, I just wouldn’t be able to stand the way Tom speaks.

As for Taylor learning Cantonese - forget about it. She couldn’t learn Japanese which is much easier (even for speaking only), she lived for 4 years before in HK and even with already being with Tom she didn’t bother to learn.
Like even in recent videos she asked him at the airport how you pronounce Toronto in Cantonese - she should know this by now.
She can get around HK with English only so she won’t have motivation to do so. She also has her ‘assistant’ to do translating for her. I don’t see that coming.

No. 22839

Yes, same anon you replied to and I agree. If their only conversation together is in English, it seems sorely lacking based on the videos. However his understanding of English is very good, but he seems unconfident speaking it for sure.
Every ESL person I've ever met had better spoken English than what we've heard from Elbow-San. But they do seem very happy together so maybe he's just extremely shy on camera.

No. 22840


Yeah, as someone who has spent quite a bit of time in HK, Tom(or should I say 子明)'s English accent is shockingly bad for someone who is reasonably internationalized as he is. That said, it's also puzzling that he has relatives in France, rather than UK/Canada/USA. My best guess is that Taylor is being honest when she says he is a self made man, and that he genuinely was from a poor or middle class Honger family that was aspirational af and that's why they have the wealth and internationalism without the trappings of "old money" HK elites…

No. 22841

I would assume that they speak a kind of Canglish. Like Tay probably understands more Cantonese than she speaks and vice versa for him.
That makes sense.

No. 22842

I highly doubt she understands anything aside of which thank you to use and names of dim sum - at the end she asked him about how to pronounce Toronto in Cantonese despite being there for so long.
I think one of the main reasons to move to HK was that she doesn’t need to learn the language, she couldn’t get around Japan much as she wouldn’t actually learn the language aside of how to pronounce her dialogues in drama.

We talk about girl who thinks WWIII was a thing.

No. 22843

Ah it's you.
That's not necessarily how it works. It's totally possible to suck at speaking a language and yet be able to understand it when you hear it. They aren't mutually exclusive; especially if you are -like Taylor- uncomfortable and self conscious about making mistakes. The reason that they moved to HK is because that's where Tom's primary business is and Taylor's modeling career is over. She even said that Japan was never intended to be permanent for them.
And it's honestly completely feasible to live in Japan with almost zero Japanese. Expats there do it for decades. I think that it's sad and a waste, but there you go.
>We talk about girl who thinks WWIII was a thing
Pretty sure that was just a stupid mistake. Taylor's an airhead, not a Mira-tier moron.

No. 22844


-> Pretty sure that was just a stupid mistake. Taylor's an airhead, not a Mira-tier moron.

Mistake she should have edited, but she had no idea it's incorrect so she kept it.
She's not the brightest - not a complete moron, but learning was never her thing. She didn't even finish the degree she started in Hong Kong.

I don't say everyone should be 'book smart', but I often get stupid-girl vibes from her. I would like to believe she does that on purpose to be more 'relatable' to younger viewers, but you can clearly see there's a big gap between her and people her age when it comes to common knowledge.

No. 22845

About Tay learning Cantonese, I'm familiar with Hong Kong and my grandparents speak Canto so I'll try to give some sociolinguistic insight.

First of all, English is an official language of Hong Kong, and due to the colonial history, it's considered the most prestigious language. That's why I said well-to-do old money family kids would speak proper English. This is particularly true for someone around Elbow's age because HK was still a British territory when he was a schoolkid. The British colonizers, even if they lived in Hong Kong for years, wouldn't bother themselves with learning Cantonese as they saw it "beneath" them. There are a very few exceptions – for instance, missionaries tend to learn the language because it helps them reach more people, and I even met a white girl who was born and raised in HK and spoke Cantonese (as well as English) natively because her father was a missionary that preached in Cantonese. But that is the 1% of white people in Hong Kong, even now expats from rich Western countries like UK and Canada and from poorer countries like India and Philippines alike generally don't learn more than rudimentary Cantonese. Taylor is a wealthy woman who would mostly associate with people who can speak English and thus doesn't have much need to learn Cantonese.

On top of that, HK was handed over to China on 1997, and with that a lot of schools started focusing on teaching Mandarin Chinese (Beijing dialect) even over English. There are a TON of tensions because Hong Kong people don't really like mainland people and thus don't like Mandarin, but at the government level there is a big push for Mandarin.

In Canton (Guangdong) province in China where Cantonese originates, Cantonese was always both the most widely spoken language and also always viewed as inferior to Mandarin or as not a "proper" language again due to the reason that the main government spoke Mandarin.

A lot of immigrants from Hong Kong and Canton to Canada and the USA don't teach their children Cantonese because they view it as an "informal, less prestigious" language vis-a-vis English.

There are people pushing for standardization of Cantonese and taking pride in Cantonese, but these tend to be politically oriented people who don't like the Chinese government removing their freedoms and view themselves as separate from China. Elbow is a businessman who probably does a decent amount of business in China so I doubt he would make waves like that.

That said, I do think it would be good for Taylor to learn Cantonese. From Elbow's accent, we can obviously see Cantonese is his native language and the one he's most comfortable speaking. Taylor's videos usually have Chinese subtitles and I imagine either Elbow writes them himself or requests that they be added so other Chinese people can follow along with the videos. His websites are in Chinese and his fellow contacts are mostly Hong Kong people. Speaking Canto would definitely help bring Taylor closer to both Elbow and also to being integrated in Hong Kong society. I can imagine at many of the modeling and business events, everyone around her chattering away in Cantonese while she stands around awkwardly…

It's just an uphill battle for her to learn Cantonese. Everyone will tell her "Why learn Canto? English is better!". I bet even if she speaks a few words of Canto to people, they will see she's white and switch to English to accommodate her.
By the way, it's an incredibly challenging language to learn, with the traditional character set, the 8 tones, and the lack of good learning materials when contrasted with Mandarin.

No. 22846

This was very interesting Anon, thanks for posting. It gives good insight. And I agree that it would benefit her to learn Cantonese, despite social pressure not to. Especially as she is heavily hinting at getting pregnant soon. Her children should learn both languages to ensure a good bond and understanding of their heritage.

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I dislike her style change so much.
With such a figure she could rock more flattering clothes.

I know Tom loves her, but I wonder what he honestly thinks about the change. He said in one of her videos he fell for her as she was different from other 'white models in HK' (I don't remember which video exactly, tho)

No. 22848

It seemed to have happened pretty gradually so he probably got used to it. I mean let's be real, if she tried to do that uber girly look in earnest nowadays it would be cringy af. That ship has sailed for her I think. Case in point: Kota's trying to do it for some photo shoot and the cringe is so strong I want to jump off a building to escape.
Anyway, I wish Tay had found more of a middle ground than just going full insta-style but c'est la vie.

No. 22849

totally agree it would be creepy!
but she had that lovely phase in between when she dressed up so nicely - like the jeans skirt and boots, long long time ago.
now it seems she tries to pursue insta trends too much. I know things can be 'trendy', but have she and her WK heard about term 'fashion victim'? like those ugly furry gucci shoes - they were 'trendy' at some point, but no one aside of super rich people showing off wouldn't ware them - this is how I feel about her recent outfits

No. 22850

Agreed. I also wish she had more originality. She honestly looks best in more feminine styles because her features are so soft and delicate. I'd love to see her in kind of an updated mod-style or I even think that she could probably pull off soft toned down larme. Maybe a vintage-y look. Honestly there are so many styles for her to pick and choose from.
But this trendy thing does her a disservice.

No. 22851

Everyone seems to think her hair before looked a lot better, especially when the kawaii shit was tamed. When there were more friends like the jvloggers in her circle, she seemed to dress better.

Now she's a mix of kardashian, ill fitting hipster and fast fashion instathot. At her age and access to resources, she should have already developed a sense for what looks good.

No. 22852

Taylor and Elbow-san address questions posed by people on the internet about them and their relationship. Around the 15 minute mark they talk about the age difference and whether or not elbow-san considers himself a sugar daddy (he says hes not and talyor makes her own money and she agrees). Elbow-san of course does not want to show his face on camera as per usual

No. 22853

Unless she has another job we don't know about, Taylor doesn't make enough money to be able to buy all of those luxury goods even if she isn't contributing to rent, and her youtube and model work is so sporadic now that she has to make far less than the average Canadian her age. I have to wonder if the video was made because Tom is starting to get embarrassed about the age and economic gap now that they're getting married and people in his life who don't follow youtube will be meeting Taylor at the wedding for the first time and judging or laughing at him behind his back. Tom also looks older than 42, so their age difference looks bigger than 12 years if they are telling the truth.

No. 22854

Ever since the dude was outed as her lifestyle provider, Taylor no longer pushes the "work hard for your dreams" lie as much.

>I'm quite mature

>I provide for myself
I've seen enough. I remember he lambasted her for running up phone bills and getting cards declined like a teen. She can't even buy her own business class tickets if she wanted.

No. 22855

>all of those luxury goods
What luxury goods? She buys mostly fast fashion. The luxury items she has are gifts for the most part. You act like she's buying Saint Laurent and Gucci every week.
>she has to make far less than the average Canadian her age
Look at the end of the day, we don't know jack about her finances and what she does or doesn't have in the bank.
> I have to wonder if the video was made because Tom is starting to get embarrassed about the age and economic gap
I doubt it. Her followers have been bugging her to do it for ages. He didn't want to do it. He didn't seem embarrassed at all. And newsflash, Taylor isn't some kind of dirty secret for him. She already knows his friends and family. She's been to his friends weddings and baby showers. She's been to his work parties. She spends holidays with his family. They seem to be fully engaged in each other's lives.
He was the one who called her mature first. Admittedly I raised my eyebrows at that, but I figure that he knows her better than I do. What we see in her youtube videos is only a tiny fraction of her whole. And one where she often doesn't present herself very well.

No. 22856


She said "I support myself." Supporting yourself means paying for your own living expenses, including travel, rent, food, and phone.

Tom didn't show his face on the video. His immediately family and company employees have met her, but now she'll be meeting distant relatives, business contacts, former colleagues, classmates, people who don't follow their social media and don't know about her.

No. 22857

>Look at the end of the day, we don't know jack about her finances and what she does or doesn't have in the bank.

Not the anon you're replying to, but the way everything money or adulting related is a mystery to her at 30 shows that she is being carried.

If she was living below her means and had credit history, she would have had an easy time getting approved for the condos. She and Tom wouldn't have had to reel in dad for help at the 11th hour and have meltdowns over an imagined entitlement.

No. 22858


Sorry but the discussion towards the end of the video gave me a mental image of them having sex (even though she's trying to be coy about it) and i did not need that in my mind.

I'm picturing her slowly teaching him the correct english expressions for during sex and it's just cringe

No. 22859

Elbow san is chomping at the bit to get tay tay preggo probably because he’s fucking ancient (talk about having a baby doesn’t start until literally a minute or two before the video ends)

No. 22860

Who is running Elbow san’s IG? “Per” “epic” “breathless” just don’t seem like words you’d find in his vocabulary. It's also really weird that a super wealthy CEO started up a new IG for his fiancee's tween fans.

No. 22861

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I find the way she chose to change the thumbnail and title interesting, wonder if she changed it to get more views or if Tom didn't like it?

No. 22862

why do all her fans tell her how young Tom looks? He looks older. I wouldn´t be surprised if they fudged his age a bit, honestly

No. 22863

Lots of assumptions here. She has some incredibly expensive stuff mixed into her fast fashion. She also seems to wear things once or twice, tops, except for a couple comfort outfits. (Based on when she used to vlog everyday.) This white knighting is obnoxious.

No. 22864


Dude, his fiancee is a native English speaker from Canada, it's not at all surprising he would pick up on some basic white bitch slang lol

These recent videos…urgh. I honestly had a better image of their relationship when Elbow-san wasn't talking. He shouldn't have let Tay talk him into doing videos.

Also his shit English in a former British colony is more than enough proof that he grew up poor, yet the hags on PULL still think he comes from a rich family kek.

No. 22865

it's funny how they try to suck it up to her by saying he looks so young - no, he doesn't. he looks his age, if I've seen him on the street I would say he's in his early 40s.
he seems all right, he works hard, but what's the point of saying 'I wouldn't guess his age' when he does look like a 40 yo guy?

No. 22866

Girl just bought a painting that costs in the thousands. Then again, those same fans are already excited about her getting pregnant because it’ll give her content.

I don’t think “breathless” is part of her vocab, either.

He looks older than early 40s for a Chinese guy and he's soaking up the compliments and attention seeing how often he’s been updating. But what’s a smart, hardworking guy like Tom doing with Taylor? If he just wanted a young pretty thing, he could’ve easily gotten a more beautiful and successful model with his wealth and connections, unless something's off. He pursued Taylor on Facebook (don't give me that "they were just friends" crap), so it’s not like he was attracted to her personality. They were both in relationships with other people. Maybe we’ll finally find out.

No. 22867

I visited HK many years ago after the Brit occupation just ended and there were many people with poor English. Being a self-made man is just as good as family money.

They obviously spent a lot of time getting to know each other before they even met. Imo they’re pretty open about that. Is it so far fetched they like each other for personality first?

No. 22868

In a video from January she has got a package in the mail and he teases her about it only being her third package…today which really implied that he was paying for it. She does make Youtube buxx but she also shops a little too often to be covered. He is definitely paying for some things.

I think he doesn't like the white hair as much as she looks more like a trophy wife/gf and makes it more obvious.

No. 22869

The title is now "fiance Tag part 2 and Tom's Birthday"

Lead with clickbait and change it later scribbling in notebook

No. 22870

He contacted her on Facebook after seeing a photo of her on a mutual friend's page and if it was just because he wanted her for work, he wouldn't have been messaging her privately. Her work for his company was being handled through her agency and without his presence.

That's because it was pointed out on PULL. Just like the HK and dog shelter vlogs and sudden metal straw.

No. 22871

The day the fiancé got attention from other people/girls (on his Instagram) is the best day to marry him lol how desperate. Must lock him inside the cage before it’s too late. So scared he might be interested to other girls. Typical Taylor. Everything must be about her lol

No. 22872

to be fair for her - you cannot marry so quickly in Hong Kong, it's very easy to get married, but you need at least one month of 'cool down' period between booking your ceremony and the actual wedding day.
I know it's always about her, but in this case it means they planned it for a while now.

No. 22873

I was so surprised to see on IG that they got married like that. I thought it was going to be some extravagant event with Taylor looking like a princess and having everyone fawn over her all day. I'm assuming they will still have a wedding to celebrate but not for months. I wonder why they rushed things, even if they had to give a months notice, that's still rushing. None of her family around, only her assistant? weird.

No. 22874

I had weird vibes in Tom's bday video that she was giving hints she's pregnant, but don't quote me on that!

No. 22875

Well everything you just typed there is wrong but…
Also tone down the a logging. Some girl having a low key wedding isn't worth the venom.

No. 22876

I actually felt bad for him. He always lived in the shadow of her. I mean look at his instagram, she should’ve just let him use his name. Those elbowsan xx, tripod san etc names are all just stupid. He is a successful businessman, and i think many people would learn, appreciate and respect him more if he actually post and talk about his business instead of posting all those rubbish contents about his relationship for her obsessed teenagers fans all the time. I mean, come on Tom. You are far more better and worth it than just being known as Taylor’s “elbowsan”.

No. 22877

I have to agree with you on this one anon……let him shine as him….he is very hardworking and successful…..he should’ve known as him for his hardwork….not because of her all the time…everyone know he is your fiancé (well husband now), you don’t have to make it all about you all the time…..geez it amazes me how some people crave for attention these days smh

No. 22878

She will probably have proper ceremonies in Canada and France. She's probably preggers and I can't wait for a kaka meltdown.

No. 22879

It might just be for visa reasons. It's common for international couples to get legally married and have the ceremony later.

No. 22880

You guys act like she runs his instagram and makes him do this and that. He seems to be in on the elbow joke, so what's wrong with him using that name and wanting to be a part of this side of Taylor's life? He posts about cars and food and his life, which Taylor happens to be a part of, how is that her craving attention? This thread has the wildest anons is2g, one day Tom controls Taylor because "he is her sugar daddy" and the next day Taylor controls Tom because "she outshines him and is jelly". Makes me really nostalgic for that kiki milk >>22871 like wtf

I hope they don't get another dog that has been bred to be so unhealthy when they move into their new house, I feel bad for Rosie because she always has her tongue out and I bet she has health issues.

No. 22881


Since he runs a business he already has successful social media accounts with his name or brand. It's not like that account is his first ever. He works in digital marketing. It's just a fun account on the side and marks him becoming closer in her digital/Youtube life now they are married. She probably asked for this as a stipulation of the marriage, since him hiding in the shadows was gonna look weird once they were married.

Basically it's a good thing and I see no problems with it.

Yeah there's no way that dog's healthy.

No. 22882

Well she straight up said he wants to have a baby by next year. But if she were pregnant I feel like they’d be way more private about it until 12wks and then do a big surprise video. Not give it away by talking about it in a video but even then it was my first thought as to why

No. 22883

seriously? go take a look at menclub.hk and you'll get a pretty good idea of how he makes his money. Their website and FB is full of girls showing tits and ass.

The cake Tay bought him has a phone with MC on it. It's the menclub logo. Taylor used to make little vids and interviews for them too. Most got removed once she announced she had a bf.

No. 22884

Amazing find, anon!!! Is this why they were in Japan? So Tom could recruit some "models" for his Menclub video?

Interesting staff: blog.menclub.hk/home.php

No. 22885

"Tom Lip" is identified as the CEO of Menclub HK on official sites and documents, so there's no doubt.

No. 22886

Yeah he's a successful businessman, why would he want his wife's goofy content and personal stuff to come up when you google his name? Staying "elbow-san" is the smarter move.

No. 22887

Yikes, this is beyond sketchy.

No. 22888

Now we know why he is so coy about his business…sexygirls.com

No. 22889

File: 1542492672617.png (655.71 KB, 720x827, wp_ss_20181117_0025 (2).png)

It's like a view into elbow-san's mind, including Taylor lookalikes

No. 22890

File: 1542493074333.png (938.06 KB, 720x1280, wp_ss_20181117_0027.png)

"Tell us more about your business Tom"

"It's uhh. In digital marketing."

No. 22891

File: 1542493325352.png (131.79 KB, 720x1280, wp_ss_20181117_0029.png)

I wonder what is here in this "Private Zone"???

This is amusing me too much anons

No. 22892

There are so many porn stars and gravure models on that site. Businesses from that industry are usually connected to criminal elements in some way.

Why was Taylor working for Menclub and were those her first jobs with him?

He messaged her directly. Who's to say he isn't contacting other girls.

No. 22893

So basically.. escorting service and prostitution? GFC

No. 22894

File: 1542513654630.jpg (346.01 KB, 1115x712, taylormarriage.jpg)

They got married and everyone is shocked that it was so quick and informal.

No. 22895

She was blogging for BeautyExchange along with a bunch of other female influencers at that time.
This Mensclub thing looks like a digital Chinese Maxim. In addition to the creepy pics you posted, there are also lots of pictures of cars, motorcycles,games, tech stuff and other presumably "manly" things. It's just another sausage site.

No. 22896

File: 1542515966880.jpg (103.17 KB, 1081x602, rrt445t.JPG)

Cherry-picking is fun, huh.

No. 22897

Someone said she did work directly for Mensclub in the past and I wasn't the one who posted those pics, although they're all from the front page of their website.

Did you actually look at their website? Check out the "Girls" page.

Look at their page on the "Under-18" girl. It's not just "manly" things.

No. 22898

How is this creepier or worse than what other "men's" magazines post? Maxim has a gallery of barely clothed girls that their readers can vote on right this moment.

No. 22899

Those two sisters, Erika and Marina, are still in high school.

No. 22900

Those two girls are still in high school.

No. 22901

Age of consent is 16 in HK so for them it isn’t breaking any laws. Like other anons said it’s like a Chinese maximum. Kinda questionable but not illegal

No. 22902

Moving the goal post and normalizing trash sites doesn't make it "okay".

Tom giving business advice to teenage fangirls atm while this is how he gets rich is a joke.

No. 22903

File: 1542542666721.jpg (117.17 KB, 850x850, 10511356_676564519059765_30984…)

I was the anon who brought up menclub above. I actually don't know that it's any worse than Maxim, honestly. But I have a hunch that many of Taylor's pseudo-sexy schoolgirl "bedtime" pix were for menclub

No. 22904

File: 1542543090246.png (1.03 MB, 1807x924, Screenshot 2018-11-17 21.25.08…)

this is creepy though

No. 22905

This is the only evidence of menclub she left on her page: https://www.facebook.com/Taylor.R.Official/photos/a.542894092426809/589962937719924/?type=3&permPage=1

The comments are predictable

Unfortunately, only the text of the so-called interview is archived:

No. 22906

Did some searching. So, um, when did she say she started dating Tom?

No. 22907

eww that under-18 thing is like super softcore porn.

Just looking at these pics and having all of these adolescent girls looking at me just feels gross.

No. 22908

Do you remember when Taylor talked about an event where there were mirrors on the floor, and so everyone could see up the models' skirts?

Menclub helpfully linked to the press release with uncensored pictures from their FB page, tagging her and writing ~oh my god~

No. 22909

this is an imageboard. post the pics

No. 22910

That's true it doesn't, but let's be real you wouldn't give a shit about this if you didn't have a hateboner for the owner's girlfriend/partner. So spare us your moralizing. You're on a fucking chanboard.

No. 22911

Just because porny photos of 16-year olds aren’t illegal in HK doesn’t change the fact that it’s messed up and gives new perspective to Taylor’s dolly phase and the wholesome image her fans have of Elbow-san.

Maxim is trashy but they don’t entice their audience with actual schoolgirls and talk up their under-18 status. Maxim almost looks classy in comparison.

No. 22912

So this is just one of the several businesses he owns or what? Doesn't he also own BeautyExchange?

No. 22913

yes. and Studio54. and CChannel.
all of which employed and promoted Taylor.

No. 22914

girl in the middle was 14/15 at the time of the photo.

No. 22915

Wait. So both Taylor and Kota were pedo pandering gravure-esque weebs who both got Asian husbands from dressing kawaii and acting softcore and cutesy. Meaning that even though Tay was copying Kota she still made out with a better deal than Kooter. She got what Kota wanted in HK while Kota was licking muff trying to keep working while she was also married to stay in the country. That entire time Tay had Tom funding his personal real barbie.

So Tay married a Chinese Kota fan who owns the kind of site that probably would have featured viral era Kota's hideous clevage shoops and spread eagle poses to get creepy guys fluffed up to schoolgirls. Say what you guys want and I think she does love him bc of how easy he makes her life but he's obviously attracted to her because she's immature and spoiled in addition to being pretty and white. She became the trophy Kota wanted to be.

No. 22916

Did you really go through that many FB posts to find this? I'm looking through them and there's way too many posts to sort through. At least share the link, anon.

No. 22917

MC IG follows Taylor and… Peachmilky.

No. 22918

This makes me think Tom went after Taylor because she was a kota clone. He had dozens of girls employed who looked just like Taylor but he chose to DM her over all the others? Although I guess none of the other girls had a kotaphase.

No. 22919


Here's the link.

I searched their FB posts for Taylor to find stuff about her.

No. 22920

No. 22921

File: 1542571260890.png (567.38 KB, 558x783, Taylor and Tais.png)

Here's another classy post

No. 22922

What's her name? I mean, you're sure she was 14/15?

No. 22923

This post is so over-the-top, but Taylor did copy Kota's gross poses. I guess she saw how they could benefit her.


"I’m proudest for not changing to fit the media. It would be a lot easier to be bigger if I just went that route and posed in a bikini. I don’t think I’m there yet. But I’m working hard to get there doing it properly."

kek Taylor ok

No. 22924

100% sure. Kana Hashimoto is a famous Japanese idol/actress. That photo is from a commercial she did, not something Menclub took.

No. 22925

This so much. It's not edgy to be okay with something that's exploitative. It goes against the wholesome "hardworking and never slutted it up" image the two put out.

As the owner of the companies, he had pick of the litter to message and years to take out girls until one was dtf.

No. 22926

Tay was probably not his first white model gf. She was just one old enough and plain enough to need a backup plan and guarantor to take her where she wanted to go.

No. 22927

Wasn't she living with him and being supported by him before she ever moved to Japan? They met after she started copying Kota in HK but Taylor never worked enough as a model as a Kotaclone in JP to support herself on just youtube. When Tay announced her BF she qas already living in a house with him for like a year. He might not be her sugar daddy now but he probably was at first.

I love how Taylor ended up getting everything Dakota wanted from her viral fame. If she had chosen to stay in Japan she would have all Dakota and Kiko's wishlist boxes checked off.

No. 22928

In her kotaclone days she had tons of burando she wore once at best, high end makeup just for the girly packaging, and a fully decked out dolly room.

This was on top of translation and subtitling services, all to follow a temporary trend. None of that comes for free and it all got trashed as she moved onto instathot trends.

Meanwhile Koots is still reusing her VW knockoffs from taobao, kek.

No. 22929

Remember those kawaii LE Pullips she bought just to throw in her closet? Those were like $500 or more each.

No. 22930

Inb4 her next video is all about how they kept their relationship ~secret~ at first to avoid sugaring suspicions

No. 22931

I remember a thread where people freaked out over how she tossed those dolls around. People treat things poorly if they didn't work to pay for them in the first place though, she probably had no idea how much it was worth.

No. 22932

No. 22933

I liked their elopement video; Taylor looked so happy. Elbow awkward and nervous but he seems just that type of person.
Wonder if they got married so soon for visa reasons? Still hoping for a big ceremony

No. 22934

It seems a bit sad but I am hoping for more too, a room with your family on skype is not good enough. I do think she looked great.

No. 22935


>view into elbow-san's mind

>bags of potato chips

lol i'm ded

Written in polite/formal Chinese:
"Private Room is limited to specially selected members of MenClub. We will have a specialist personally inspect the personal information of each registrant. Upon successfully becoming a member of the Private Room, we will have a specialist contact you either by telephone or e-mail.

Inside of the MenClub Private Room, you will will be in contact with a whole new, never before seen world that is exclusively for gentlemen.
If you sincerely would like to join the Private Room, please fill in the form below and kindly wait patiently:

First and last name:
Cell phone number:
E-mail address:
Why we need your membership:
Yearly income:"

y i k e s

No. 22936

File: 1542908475781.png (239.82 KB, 1232x996, Screen Shot 2018-11-22 at 12.1…)

I'll go ahead and translate the "interview" that >>22905 linked, too.

MenClub Christmas Goddesses* Special Issue~ Taylor R
Text: MenClub Editor Ah-K
Photos / video : Jou Fung / Taylor

The Christmas goddess special issue of MenClub is here! First up is the sweet Canadian gal, Taylor R!

Taylor R, who comes from Canada, looks exactly like a real princess. She's different from many Western chicks in that she has a Japanese flair. As such, she's become a big-name model in Hong Kong. Although Hong Kong is where Taylor found fame and success, she still makes sure to go back to Canada to celebrate the Christmas holiday every year.
"I am studying in Hong Kong, but Canada is full of interesting stuff. It snows over there, and I also really like catching up with my family and friends."

This year is no exception for Taylor: "I am going to go home and have Christmas dinner with my family. My grandma makes the best turkey in the world! I really miss my family, I can't wait to see them."

Unlike in Hong Kong, Christmas is not commercialized in Canada. Taylor said Christmas was an unforgettable part of her childhood.
"I used to believe in Santa Claus back then. When I saw all the trees that 'Santa' left under the tree, I felt so happy. If I become a mother one day, I'd like to let my children enjoy that experience too."

Taylor seems to receive a lot of gifts from her fans, so she stated frankly: "To be honest, I don't want to receive Christmas gifts anymore. I already have too much stuff!"

Taylor's homepage [links to her FB]


*Goddess is slang for hot girl, babe etc.
**LOL @ "Christmas is not commercialized in Canada"

No. 22937

"Dating" service, alright

"To be honest, I don't want to receive Christmas gifts anymore. I already have too much stuff!" Hahaha.

Someone asked about the MenClub logo on Eblow's IG but not even her fans at PULL caught on. And why is this thread still contained?

No. 22938

It's unsaged now.

Stay focused on the milk and keep the sperging to a minimum and it'll stay that way.

No. 22939

I wouldn’t have a problem with her being a trophy wife and taking thirst trap pictures if she didn’t act so high and mighty about being “pure”

No. 22940

Either that or she's prego.

No. 22941

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No. 22942

File: 1542937361526.png (55.4 KB, 720x187, Youtube Taylor.png)

Y-yes we are free!

A comment on her YouTube. I didn't notice this while watching, but now I'm thinking how weird that is?

No. 22943

That’s because they live in France and Japan right?

No. 22944


for a Chinese family it is REALLY weird that his parents (especially mom) NEVER seem to show up in their lives. We've seen the sister in France but not the mom or dad.

We also know that Tom sold street food with his mom at a stall in a subway station in high school (and his mom didn't own the stall). Maybe the dad is either dead or the parents divorced. But where the fuck is Tom's mom? Chinese MILs are nosy af … they think their sons shit out rainbows and diamonds.

This wedding is suspicious as hell. The video where Taylor talks more about the elopement she sounds like she's sad and stressed but trying to pretend she's cool with it and happy for the sake of the camera/her fans. Tom doesn't sound like he has any emotion at all.

Something is "off" here :\ Taylor is such a girly girl, loves attention, loves trying food and outfits, planning things… Elopement is cool for some women but she 1000% seems like the kind of girl who would want a fairytale wedding. I hope I'm wrong but this seems very sad to me. :(

No. 22945


Honestly, she's probably only sour that she didn't get some fancy wedding. They probably eloped because her visa was soon to expire and seemed convenient. This whole news of him basically owning a site with softcore porn of teens, and Taylor knowing this and dating/working for him anyways comes off sketchy. Maybe her good girl and hard work crap is really just her projecting. Like how Onion has to reinforce how brutally honest he is, so he states it every chance he gets just like she constantly states how "good" and "hard-working" she is. I find only liars have to repeat themselves as much as they do.

Knowing Taylor though, they're probably stilling going to have a ceremony but just hold off till spring.

No. 22946

>world that is exclusively for gentlemen
>Why we need your membership:
>Yearly income:

Oh hi there escort services.

>trying to pretend she's cool with it and happy for the sake of the camera/her fans

She probably isn't thrilled that she had to wait this long for the engagement and visa. By repeating that she's chill with a skype wedding, she makes it more obvious that she isn't. Kind of like when she cut her hair.

She's probably going to have proper wedding ceremonies later, so it doesn't seem sad. She doesn't have much else to vlog about unless she has a baby.

No. 22947

Thank you!

No, I think they only live in France. His uh "models" live in Japan.

And: https://mens-modern.jp/38957

Here's an interview with an HK AV girl:

It's gone now but MenClub had an article called "Pretend Gay Get Laid"

No. 22948

Initially the sudden marriage made me think that his parents or her grandma were passing away so they wanted to tie the knot before that. Kind of surprised I haven’t sern any theories in that vein anywhere I looked

No. 22949

Re-reading the thread, the elopement isn't as surprising as everyone thinks.
She even talks about it here >>22752

No. 22950

Could be anything anon, his mum could be in a nursing home, drooling.

No. 22951

Which reminds me…having a baby does not reduce the chance of ovarian cysts. They can happen to anyone with a womb.

No. 22952

Some weird/kinda gross mensclub videos
(start at 02:00ish)

No. 22953

Oh that’s more plausible, good catch

No. 22954


I have no idea what they're saying, but is this a "how to pick up white women on the street" video? It's so weird and creepy.

Just a question… But is it possible Taylor may have used Tom's escorting portion of the site?

No. 22955

>Kind of surprised I haven’t sern any theories in that vein anywhere I looked

I guess it's because it wouldn't make her look like the heinous, gold digging bitch that many anons want her to be

I don't think it's inherently wrong to own a dating service, but having under 20-yo (yes, I'm a prude) models and girls on there is fucking nasty and really makes me see Tom in a different light.

No. 22956

Wtf how did I miss this. This is not only sketchy, this is straight up disgusting. So much for the "wholesome Elbow-san".

Age of consent is 16 in most countries but under-18 porn is still illegal in all of them… well, aside from HK, apparently. It's gross, no hateboner whatsoever involved since I've been subbed to Taylor for a long time, and you don't need to hate someone to acknowledge that their partner is creepy.

The Mostrengas lurking will for sure be happy about this, but I'm disappointed. So… she was an escort?

No. 22957

Taylor already had financial backing from her family to do modeling so she'd have little reason to. She's been silent about any relationships before Tom in HK though.

There's no way this was just a dating service. There are apps for that. This is pick up artist and softcore content with exclusive membership for rich men, that alone proves that this is an escort service.

No. 22958


>So…. she was an escort?

That's what I'm wondering. I don't hate Taylor, but I don't understand why everyone believes her online presence is the only "real one" while every other person on youtube is just showing a "persona" and is fake. Meanwhile, she was the girl that got her name out there by being ridiculously fake. Pretending to know Japanese, facial filler, faking her voice, photoshopping, concealing her age and dressing childishly while her boyfriend filmed her. I'm getting serious "age play" vibes from the two, especially with the fact Tay still has all her school girl outfits.

I feel like people are getting manipulated by her " I'm just like you " videos, where she complains of pimples and being emo.

No. 22959

Caught up with the thread due to recent shenanigans but I always thought the way she and Elbowsan met was weird? I didn't even watch her videos thoroughly but I did not know Elbowsan was 41?? She's pretty, she could've gotten literally anyone, and the fact that he fell in love with her over ~her personality~ when she looked the way she did was weird to me.
I agree with her when she said she didn't marry for a visa. If that was the case, she would've snatched it right away. I do agree with >>22948 that something happened within their family to spark such a fast decision. Super sad she didn't choose a wedding dress. She should really go into dress modeling.

No. 22960

>the fact that he fell in love with her over ~her personality~ when she looked the way she did was weird to me.

Same, she was dressing and acting like a kawaii teenager while also copying one and being vague and dodgy about her age. If that's the personality he fell in love with then it's probably good Dakota never ended up with a career in HK.

No. 22961


Could the intro videos of the women on their channel actually be for their escort service? at the end of the video of this Japanese AV star, she says she'd really like to visit HK cause she's never been, wants to see the lights at night, eat noodles with someone who eats a lot, and visit Disneyland, all like she wants someone to take her there, not go on her own. It's a lot of trouble and money for short videos that don't get many views.

No. 22962

I agree. Even in the thread starter it says she remains boring with not much milk.

No. 22963

This, it seems like stupid ostrenga tinfoil to think Taylor was a escort during HK days. We've seen her portfolio, she was getting a lot of work in HK and comes from a rich family. She is also obviously not the type to do it ~for fun~.
Also, Men's Club seems more like a forum to me than specifically a escort site (I do belive they offer the service though).

No. 22964

Oh no, when he "caught her like a Pokemon" when she's obviously a paid actress. You weren't kidding, it's creepy. I really wonder about the depth of Taylor's involvement with this site but I don't think we'll ever know.

No. 22965

They seem like escort videos rather than modeling videos, I agree. She seems so nervous and scared, and unfamiliar with modeling. Compare to something like this
(Page 3 topless models. Tons of men are watching but the model isn't scared)

No. 22966

>Taylor says they met because he wanted to work together
>Shifty about exact date they met (she always pauses and is vague about it)

I think maybe he wanted to hire her for this stuff, took a liking to her and then dated her instead. He likes her "personality" since he has his pick of hot girls running this site.

No. 22967

File: 1543029077000.png (192.25 KB, 1317x829, taylor single article translat…)

check out the url ("single white female again")

No. 22968


>spouse conditions


No. 22969

And here's the URL. Perhaps someone can translate it more accurately.

No. 22970

File: 1543030510685.png (921.31 KB, 1287x678, Taylor single - menclub.png)

Menclub publicized Taylor's announcement about her single status.

(sorry, repost)

No. 22971

File: 1543032055085.png (289.93 KB, 720x846, Valentines.png)

This translation is not great but it's Bing autotranslate. The rest of the article is about other people.

No. 22972

Made me lol (although I suppose Kooters is forever the SWF in relation to Taylor)

No. 22973

The article itself was somewhat choppy.

Single Doll-like Model Back on the Market
The very pretty doll-like model Taylor R, like Chrissie Chau (fellow model), has recently reverted back to being single and "back on the market." She broke up with her boyfriend (who works in the financial sector) of 4 years several months ago. Don't think that a model's love life is very exciting or that their Valentine's day is going to be extra romantic though. Taylor, who has been in 2 relationships, just enjoys cooking at home with her boyfriend (her specialty is seafood spaghetti) and watching movies.
She isn't worried about being lonely this Valentine's day with no boyfriend and plans on hanging out with her female friends. Her requirements list is very simple: his personality is the most important, and must be able to make her laugh and support her work. Pretty-boy male models are not her cup of tea, they're better off admired from a distance.

No. 22974


Not really. If you've ever planned a wedding you would understand better. I'm at the age where I am planning a wedding and everyone else around me is either also planning or had a wedding in the past couple years.

Literally EVERYONE goes through a phase where they consider eloping. Weddings seem overwhelming to plan at first.

But I only know like one or two couples who actually did go ahead and elope (both in Hawaii, and one doesn't really count because the bride grew up in Hawaii and they had a big reception in California afterwards).

People might decide to scale up or down the style of the wedding, but ultimately most couples realize that a wedding really symbolizes the biggest day of their lives and a chance to throw a party for all their family and friends. I've been to all manner of weddings from a $100k affair in NYC straight out of Bride Wars, to a $1k simple potluck in a public park where the bride made her own dress and her sister baked the cake type of thing. Traditional Catholic Mass hourlong snoozefest to secular 5 minute exchange of vows. Military weddings in full uniform, Southern weddings with country music and bbq, Chinese banquets with like 20 dishes and parental tea ceremony and 3 different dresses for the bride, Halloween wedding with the bride in a black dress… there are a million ways to do a wedding and very very few people actually want to elope. Even those who do elope would generally have their parents there…

A wedding is a huge deal because it basically presents the married couple to the world and shows everyone what kind of couple they are and gives their entire family and friends community a chance to have a sort of emotional fulfillment of understanding that they are a married couple now.

When I first watched the wedding video, I thought they were just doing the registration and then later on they would host a proper wedding. But in her second video she clarifies they don't have any immediate plans to do that.

This is hugely disappointing. Yes, we're all feminists and women don't need a white dress and a big shabang and it's acceptable to elope. But if you're watching Taylor R expecting a woman who doesn't act feminine or traditional then idk wtf to say to you. She's absolutely the kind of woman who would want a big dress and ceremony. Her whole life revolves around making herself pretty and filming herself so the world can see her. She's INCREDIBLY family oriented. She has stated over and over that she appreciates Elbow-san's family values and how he respects her family. This sudden marriage is like a slap in the face to her family I feel; even if they tell her it's okay and she says she is okay with it. Of course they would say they support her and are okay with it because they want to be supportive and loving towards family, but I bet that privately they are pretty damn disappointed. For more traditional, family-oriented people, weddings are as much for the family as for the couple themselves.

That's not even getting into the Chinese side of it. Chinese families are a million times more conservative and traditional than North American ones. Even very liberal free spirited Chinese people who studied abroad etc, their weddings are very traditional. They may privately complain but a HUGE part of Chinese culture is respecting your elders so if your elders tell you to do something, you do it. Many/most Chinese women are fully independent career women but for their wedding they will pour tea for their new in-laws (sign of obedience to the husband's parents) because that's just How It Is Done. Like with white people parents they will also view the wedding as a big family reunion, and often also they will invite all their business contacts. Many Chinese people complain that they don't know half the people at their own wedding because their parents wanted to make sure all their (the parents') friends are invited. Again the wedding is not just about the couple celebrating their love, but it is about presenting themselves as a couple to the family and the entire community.

In Chinese culture, women marry "into" the husband's family. So sometimes Chinese women marry white guys and get away with there not being a lot of Chinese elements or all the extended family and business contacts. But for Taylor. She is a woman. She has to show her loyalty to Tom's family. In Chinese culture she is now a part of his family. When she dies she will be buried with his family (traditionally Chinese have family tombs, not individual grave stones like in America). On Tomb-sweeping day she should go to worship his ancestors.

Even if Tom isn't super duper traditional, these elements probably play a role to some extent. Not doing them at all would be like an American couple not doing Thanksgiving or Christmas at all. Again not unheard of, but if someone told you they had 0 plans for Thanksgiving, you'd think it kinda suspect right? (Not in a "I can't afford the flight home" way, in a "I don't have a single member of my entire extended family I'd spend the holiday with" way). It's just suspicious.

I can't figure out quite what's going on here, but it's definitely not as simple as "Oh we just decided to elope". There's some bigger issue going on. Chinese people don't "just elope". Some white people may just elope, but not people with Taylor's personality and interests and family relationships/values.

We could speculate wildly on what, but I certainly don't have any receipts on anything. Instinctively I could imagine :

–His parents had a nasty divorce. This would explain zero contact with one side of the family, as traditionally when Chinese parents divorce the custody goes 100% to one of the parents and the other half of the family never sees them again– but then where is the half of the family Tom WAS raised by? He mentions a mom so where is his mom?

–Money issues. Heis mom is poor and he's baller but we never hear about him giving money to his mom which is another huge negative in Chinese culture. I can't really overstate how horrific it would be in Chinese culture for a first/only/oldest son to leave his mom in poverty. Or maybe he gave her a bunch of money and she mismanaged it?

–The mom died recently. This one is a good theory since if she did die, they would have to get married within 100 days according to Chinese culture, or else wait 3 years. And Taylor mentioned that they wanted to get married in less than 3 months. However, this is still deeply unsatisfying in that we never see Taylor interact with Tom's mom, or even mention her. Maybe she doesn't want to be on camera, sure, but Taylor could mention her if the two had a relationship ("My future MIL taught me how to make this soup"; "Elbow-san and I just got back from visiting his mom").

–The mom's family refuses to accept Taylor. I find this extremely plausible. The only time we see Taylor with family is at Tom's sister's house and his sister also married a white French guy so the sister probably doesn't mind. But maybe the mom is very traditional – she might have even had a Chinese woman lined up for Tom. If Taylor started out as Tom's escort/sugar baby before evolving into genuine love, I could imagine his mom being very disappointed. "Those loose Western women have no morals, can't cook proper Chinese food for my son, will not obey me as a dutiful daughter in law, will not ensure our family's heritage and traditions are properly followed…" etc. This kind of stereotypical thinking is common among older Chinese women – they don't care if their daughter marries a white guy because "daughters marry out anyway", but the son marrying a white girl is their worst nightmare because they want a Chinese daughter in law they can boss around. (Most Chinese women won't let themselves be bossed around these days anyway, but in their imagination white women are even more willful).

The part that doesn't make sense with this is that a girl like Taylor should have been able to win over Tom's mother by now. Taylor isn't a loud arrogant white woman. She's very much so the kind of ideal woman that a Chinese mother-in-law would want: Slim and pretty, mild mannered, cares more about family and home than about own career ambitions (won't outshine her son), she's clearly the more submissive one in the relationship with Tom (she mentioned that he makes all the big decisions, all the first moves, and she mostly manages daily household matters like what groceries to buy which is what a traditional Chinese wife is expected to do), she very much so wants children which is the #1 thing Chinese mothers hope for is grandchildren. It's been years. If the issue is that Tom's mother won't accept Taylor, then why? Furthermore, how would Tom be okay disobeying his mother if it's causing that much of a rift in the family?

If the above sounds way too old fashioned to you, you don't know Chinese culture well enough. This stuff sticks incredibly hard. I know families who've been in the United States for multiple generations and still they adhere to many elements of this culture (for instance, finding the idea of putting grandparents in a nursing home absolutely abhorrent). I know people whose bio parents were horribly abusive and irresponsible to the point that were basically raised by grandparents from childhood, but as adults they still fork over 1/3 of their paycheck to their absentee bio parents because "We are Chinese and we show respect to our elders". I literally have never heard of a Chinese couple eloping. It's kinda hard to overstate how shocking it would be.(holy shit)

No. 22975

wow great thanks

No. 22976

Are you okay?

No. 22977

>she will be buried in his family's tomb

please relax

No. 22978

kek calm down

No. 22979


..what part of chinese culture don't you get lol

No. 22980

anon you could've literally just summarized this and said:
>eloping the way they did is very fishy since Tom's Chinese parents probably wouldn't approve of how they did it.

No. 22981

>anons acting like we're on PULL and care about this long-winded diatribe.

No. 22982

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No. 22983


then read>>737383 then

>eloping the way they did is very fishy since Tom's Chinese parents probably wouldn't approve of how they did it.

i would just say

>eloping is INCREDIBLY HORRIBAD AND BIZARRE and it is worth wondering why

but I'm trying to head off the wypipo replies of "It's 2018 it's okay to elope" because in chinese culture it's really really not. It'd be like if someone told you "Instead of going to Thanksgiving dinner, I'm just going to shit on my grandma's fine linens and then eat the family dog".

No. 22984

For someone who claims to be an expert about ~Chinese culture~, you sure are making an assload of over generalizations. China is still highly traditional and patriarchal, that’s true; however, with the changing tides of modernism, feminism and captialism, as well as the growth of larger metropolitan cities and more opportunities for education and careers, the younger generation doesn’t hold on as tightly to those traditional values as their parents and grandparents might.

If you’re 100% certain that Taylor will be buried in her husband’s family tomb, you probably don’t understand China as much as you think you do.

No. 22985


What part of china are you from? Hong Kong is a lot more traditional than the Mainland because of the Cultural Revolution. It's a huge fucking problem in Hong Kong in particular because they have no space

If you're from the mainland please don't tell me about traditional Chinese culture tbh, they don't do half the traditional stuff people in Hong Kong/Taiwan/overseas Chinese still do. I met a girl from the mainland who didn't even know what ghost month was, lol

No. 22986

Because all "wypipo" are muricans, amirite?
Fuck off with this shit.

No. 22987

This is the longest blog I've ever seen on lolcow

No. 22988

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here's an example of a graveyard in Hong Kong where everyone is from the Kuo family

No. 22989

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and a different style for Lim tomb.

Honestly just because posters here aren't familiar with traditional Chinese culture doesn't mean it doesn't matter. Would you tell Taylor that Christmas doesn't matter? She and Tom have said plenty of times they have worked through cultural differences.

idk why people are resistant to the idea that Tom, a 40 year old born and raised in Hong Kong in a Hong Kong Chinese family, educated in Hong Kong entirely (even college), who also worked most of his career in Hong Kong, would have cultural attributes of a Hong Kong Chinese person

No. 22990

i'm using this as a pasta from now on, thanks

No. 22991

Haha I'm enjoying the sperging that is happening itt, but also the stuff about eloping being incredibly culturally jarring is very interesting to me. Would tally with >>22942

No. 22992

this post is a great argument for a stricter text limit

No. 22993

>people from mainland China aren’t part of Chinese culture

whoa there, partner

No. 22994


lol i swear to god y'all are just trying to make me sperg out further. yes mainland China wiped out its own culture in the 1960s and 1970s.

No. 22995

Nta, but we can't say for sure that she can't have possibly done some sort of sex work in HK, not when photo evidence as >>22941 exists

No. 22996

yeah obviously dipshit but how much of a sperg do you have to be to bring up how a youtube vlogger will be buried

No. 22997

No need to imply that I don't know what the damn Cultural Revolution is. That doesn't mean that mainland China isn't still Chinese. Get your head out of your ass, anon.

No. 22998

There's no doubt that Tom Lip is the CEO of MenClub, so Taylor's fans can stop saying "IF he's the CEO."

"Interview with Tom Lip, CEO of Beauty exchange HK and MenClub HK":

He's also the owner of Environmental Informatics Group (EIG).

No. 22999


the same amount of sperging that is needed to make a comment like "I wonder if they will spend Christmas with Taylor's family" or "What do you think Tom will give Taylor for her birthday". It's just basic stuff people who are married do.
Seriously your ignorance about Chinese culture is cringy. Aren't even white people usually buried with their spouse? Why is it a big deal to point out that Chinese people are usually buried near not only their spouse but also their ancestors on the paternal side?


So the point of "people don't do this in mainland China" would be great if Tom was from mainland China, which he's not

No. 23000

Even if it was two white people, you don't think it'd be weird if they got married without ANY member of one side's family present? Are y'all really that cold that you don't want to have your own parents at your own wedding.

No. 23001

How is that picture proof of anything except an embarrassing experience that she actually mentioned herself in a video? It happened at HK fashion week. She was still wearing underwear in that picture. It was a stupid red carpet design that caused it not deliberate flashing on her part.
Just because Tom owns an undeniably sketchy/gross website that's like an EA version of Maxim/Esquire doesn't mean that Taylor was a prostitute. And even though I don't like her at all and think that Tom's skeevy af, I think that branding her an escort is a bridge too far.

No. 23002

I'm convinced she got pregnant and they had to have a hasty wedding. Here >>22752 Taylor is talking about how thirsty she is for his babies and wanting to elope so it wouldn't shock me if she made good on that desire. The fact that they aren't planning a proper ceremony anytime soon could hint that she will have to wait til after giving birth.

Yes it's strange that Tom's family isnt involved at all but maybe he just isn't on good terms with his family. As for Tays not sure what her excuse is since she's obviously close with her family. But people elope with no family involvement all the time, though it usually indicates bad blood or whatever.

No. 23003

I'm finding this conversation absolutely ridiculous. Taylor and Tom both seem like culturally open minded people. To suggest she's obviously devastated they didn't have a wedding because she likes dressing up and Christmas? That's absurd. She looked thrilled and probably wouldn't have heavily publicised it if she were crying inside. She moved to Asia alone at a very young age, she's clearly not bothered by massive cultural differences, and has said Tom prefers Japan. It's entirely plausible he's not that traditional, and as someone pointed out upthread, maybe his parents are dead. The whole argument that their eloping is scandalous is reductive of them as people.

Excuse me if anything is wrong with this post- first time.

No. 23004

Context matters.
She was messaging her family while she was in the hospital recovering from surgery, miserable, uncomfortable, and probably on god knows what. I took that whole stream of messages as her being incredibly grateful and appreciative of Tom's kindness and in typical Taylor fashion hyperbolically expressing her feelings.

No. 23005

Yup, further proof: if you google "Tom Lip" you should get a Linkedin that has a picture of him and both beauty exchange and menclub listed as websites.

No. 23006


>is this 2018

>what is free will
>40 year old guys with money who regularly date immature 20-somethings would never dare break a long standing cultural law

If this isn't Kiki then she has inspired others to follow in her way.

No. 23007

It's more of a "deal" because she made the engagement and trying onndresses out to be such bug deals. Then suddenly, out of nowhere they elope? It's weird. Unless this is all some elaborate clickbait scheme and she'll reveal her wedding date & location in a future video.

No. 23008

Doesn’t she say directly in the video that they’re buying property etc and it’s a million times easier if they’re married? And then she doesn’t have to keep renewing her entertainment visa (she’s really not doing any modeling work now so maybe trouble with that)

No. 23009


Tinfoiling here, but I am just waiting for her to announce that she's pregnant. That is how this shotgun wedding read to me. Especially for Taylor who loves to organize events, to skip what is (arguably) the biggest event of your life.

No. 23010

Seeing her family vlog really killed me, honestly. She is so beautiful
, her family is so beautiful, and she wastes her genes marrying some creepy asian toad. If I were her parents I would have disowned her for being some gwailo/white monkey whore, just fetish for asian men.
This just reinforces it. There are definitely white women who go to asia for a confidence boost since so many asian men want to date "foreign blonds".

No. 23011

Scrolling down I was surprised to see fucking tomb pictures by this newfag who loves to generalize asians, kek

This is some next level shit that needs to go on an lolcow hall of fame page, alongside Kaka's posts. It would be great if it was Kaka but it doesn't sound like her.

No. 23012

I think she’s definitely pregnant because I saw a picture on her stories where she asked which shoe she should put on that night, she was wearing a really tight skirt and you could see a tiny belly. She is sometimes insecure about that area but not that night? (I can’t find the picture anywhere)

No. 23013

ok but she literally said in her elopement faq that she isn't pregnant and isn't even trying right now.

No. 23014

i also saw no belly in that pic. The skirt had ruching. She looked tiny.

No. 23015

I've never seen such reaching in a thread. this is why the taylor thread is constantly put on auto sage.

any cross-cultural marriedfags will know what a nightmare it is trying to organise this shit. deciding what country you will do the ceremony in, what type, flying relatives across the globe especially if they are old or have health issues or a bunch of kids or whatever. and on top of that making sure everyone is happy.

taylor and tom have money but they aren't billionaires like some would have you believe. honestly i think a lot of this has to do with them buying property. as some anons have mentioned above it makes a lot of things easier in both HK and canada if they are married. PLUS if you are planning to buy property why are you going to piss away money on a party?

>inb4 biggest day of muh lyff

she mentioned a couple of times that they had some big things coming up that they were going to be busy with so they probably eloped just to get the whole marriage thing out of the way with as little stress as possible.

i know lolcow loves a conspiracy but the levels of sperging in this thread are wild

No. 23016

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if you go to his linkedin profile, there is a section for education. it says he started university in 2000, so we can assume he was 18 at the time. deduct 18 from 2000, you get 1982, so he should be turning or turned 36 this year.

No. 23017

And Taylor is what, almost 30? They're actually closer in age than I would have guessed.

This is why this thread was in autosage, jfc.

No. 23018

The PULL invasion needs to stop. He's not an american who went straight to college and he's long past 36 if you look up his chinese name.

No. 23019

How so, anon? Most chinese people that I have met went to college straight after high school. I don't doubt it because he looks a bit older to me but it's entirely possible.
Also kek Taylor's LinkedIn says she is a "Nutrition Student".

No. 23020

He is 41 or now 42 since he just had birthday - it was said in fiancé tag

No. 23021

they already said he's mid-40s (I forgot the age) in their FAQ video. If anything, they fudged it younger, not older, jesus

No. 23022

My not-tinfoil is it was to make signing off documents relating to the house build easier when tom is at work. She can sign off as Mrs Lip (?) is that the name, rather than Taylor Richmond which makes her seem like a random. It was definitely for legal reasons which she even says in the video.

She will probably have a big party when she goes back to Canada next time. However it's still weird that his family appeared to have no involvement. The real milk this week is finding out what his "business" is.

No. 23023

It doesn't explain why Tom's family wasn't involved in the wedding, but new tax laws and regulations in both China and Canada were implemented this fall to discourage Chinese from investing in Canadian property. I don't know if that applies to HK buyers.

No. 23024

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Tom is currently doing a Q&A on Instagram and someone asked this.

Now we know why his family/parents weren't there.

No. 23025

He's married to a Canadian citizen, it won't apply to him.

No. 23026

I'm sorry for his loss but this just makes >>22974 even more funny

No. 23027

oh man this is just sad. can't we just let them get married in peace why do people have to ask him why his parents weren't at their wedding? if they weren't there there's probably a good reason.

No. 23028

>can't we just let them married in peace
do we force you to sperg? at least sage. This thread seem to attract pulltards

No. 23029

That was my point. It could have sped up their marriage.

Someone linked to here on PULL and now her defenders are trying to derail this thread.

Taylor has to be going crazy now that her husband's tastes have been revealed, but she can't exactly get Tom to shut down MenClub.

No. 23030

Even if Taylor had the power to do so she wouldn't. Men's club shutting down is saying bye bye to her lavish life.

No. 23031

it's one fucking person, calm your tits.

also, doubt taylor cares, she knew this when she started dating him. and i am sure that her ass kissers will find a justification for all this shit and move on.

No. 23032

>Someone linked to here on PULL and now her defenders are trying to derail this thread.
Doubtful, given that basically no one is defending her on PULL.
>also, doubt taylor cares, she knew this when she started dating him.
I'm sure she did and he doesn't hide it at all. In the most recent Q&A he did he was asked about about and answered that it was his company's "Men's Marketing" publication.
I'm sure she and he just consider it to be one of his businesses, and taking into account that most of Menclub content is pretty tame, I'm not surprised.

No. 23033

Of course she knew about MenClub. She used to work for them. It's already been covered.

No. 23034

Have any of you spergs considered that they may have been there but dont want to be plastered on social media?
They probably have private photos with his family as well.

No. 23035

Nm didnt see this >>23024

No. 23036

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Apparently they moved to Toronto now

No. 23037

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I'm confused.
I thought they were staying in HK, hence the new apartment that's being built.

No. 23038

Could be for visa or business reasons, maybe

No. 23039

Rewatching this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJsHVFmoa34

Pretty interesting that Tom promised it would be in Canada and her grandparents would be there. Neither of those things were true!

No. 23040

Weird, then why didn't they wait a few days to get married so her family could be there

No. 23041


>planning big wedding in HK

>elope without warning
>suddenly move to Canada a week later

Something isn't kosher. Why would they move to Canada if Tom's business ia based in Hong Kong? I thought the reaaon Taylor gave up on Jaoan was because she loves HK more anyway.

No. 23042

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so they have two places to stay? What?

No. 23043

They were looking at apartments in Toronto a few months ago so they have a place in each country

No. 23044

How much time are they planning on spending in Canada every year that they bothered to buy a place there as well?

No. 23045

not trying to blogpost but many hk natives are buying property in either usa or canada in preparation for being assimilated into china. even if they own businesses in hong kong, it's much safer to have an overseas option.

No. 23046

Yea but to say „we moved here now” sounds like they’re gonna stay a little longer.
Biggest freaking teaser/clickbait-to-come for her Vlogmas

No. 23047

They want to start a family, so probably going to stay in Toronto and hang out with Taylor's family for the holidays. I'm sure her husband is important enough in his company to work remotely at times. They can fuck around probably until they have kids who are school age.

No. 23048

um anyone else jealous at how rich they are wtf

No. 23049

Totally, I don’t think she deserves it just because she is lucky - I don’t say I deserve it more than her but I know plenty people who should be rewarded in life like her yet they only get middle fingers from life.
Even thought her family is wealthy looking at the eldest sister without Tom she wouldn’t enjoy life like this, even her YT career is all thanks to his support (financial and the fact she doesn’t need to have an actual job) so yeah, I think she’s just one of those lucky people.
Life is easy if you’re pretty and old guys like your cute baby image.

No. 23050

Most anons in this thread give off that vibe.

No. 23051

Life is "easy" like this when you come from money because people who have money like this actually avoid people who don't, because they don't want people asking them how they afford everything so they never have to admit they don't have to work as much as other people. Taylor got lucky but I kind of saw it coming, she comes from money and is spoiled and girls like her don't trade down or throw away handouts like that just to prove themselves. Real life is really hard when you don't have a team of people looking out for your welfare and even lazy girls like Taylor know that. She married Tom to guarantee her lifestyle, I doubt they would have ended up together if Taylor hadn't been an ageplayer/model and she was just some random pretty blonde working for his company at a desk

No. 23052

The video is not available anymore. Seems like she's reading here

No. 23053

Do you people even watch Taylor, she has been talking since long time that they will get a place in both countries

No. 23054

Don't you think something is up because she removed the video where she is talking about it? Or maybe she just want to make it a big announcement for moar views

No. 23055

It's still there
Apparently it just isn't showing up as embedded.

No. 23056

I mean she fucks a creepy old guy who is into "dolly" girls to earn this. So I'm not really jealous of Taylor, she is doing a job I could never do.

No. 23057

I could never marry someone who's bussiness is exploiting underage women and marketing the female sex as just subservient slabs of meat you can flip through like you're at the supermarket.

No. 23058

and then It´s super weid how he wants a babygirl so bad! on pull are a lot of sceenshots from Toms Q&A on insta

No. 23059

Would it be weird if Taylor wanted girl boy just as bad?

No. 23060

Sage for non-contribution, but this is completely puzzling to me and I have to ask- why do you people watch this person? What compels you to be a fan of her? She doesn't have any talents or produce anything of value. You don't learn anything by watching her videos. She's not a trainwreck so you can't even track her downfall as with most cows here. Why the fanfare? Why do so many people on this thread seem emotionally attached to her and her life? She's just a normal person on par with Onision's wife. Even if you're interested in expat life in Japan and Hong Kong, there are surely more interesting people to follow, right? I feel like the average corporate expat would live a much more interesting and authentic life in those countries.

No. 23061

She's fun. That does it for me.

No. 23062

because she's pretty.

why is there a lolcow thread on her? see >>23048 >>739438

this is the first time i've been in this thread in a year so don't accuse me of being a white knight; she's objectively beautiful and has an easy, spoiled life that a lot of anons here would love. taylor's place on this site originated from kiki's psychotic jealousy, so it's not hard to believe that others fee lthat way.

No. 23063

For me, I know Kiki still must lurk here and I enjoy reading up about Taylor having everything Kiki and Kota wanted for almost nothing. I like to visualize Kiki seething at her computer.

No. 23064

damn those threads were a trip lmao
i remember reading through and being amazed at how she had adapted the lingo and everything so that it wasnt as obvious until you went back and read all her posts together

No. 23065

It’s almost like Dakota is the dollar store version of herself and Taylor is the $10,000 version. She’s the version of Dakota where everything went right, her life ended up truly going exactly to plan. Kiki and Dakota will never have what Taylor has.

No. 23066

Whatever one thinks of Dakota, this is a pretty weird thing to say.

Sage for personal opinion:
I am occasionally envious of two things Taylor has:
- a loving family
- money

That's it. She has shown herself pretty deficient in character and personality. Her desperation to be liked and go viral is unhealthy. Her vapid lifestyle, swinging from trend to trend, is pretty undesirable as well. She is the most basic of basic women: Starbucks, fake gluten allergy, obsessed with dieting, loves Kardashians, took 3 weeks to read Girlboss. She grew up in a bilingual country and never learned French. She lived in Japan and HK and never learned either language. She is superficial. And add to that the Menclub stuff - it's not a picture of a stable woman.

Dakota has a ton of flaws. But I give her credit for truly immersing herself in Japanese. She may speak with rude forms, but she can speak. It shows a certain intelligence and business savvy. Now, she needs to apply that to her job (modeling/talent/whatever), because gaining weight and dressing horribly and lying and photoshopping and DCMAing everything is terrible for business. But maybe she'll ultimately apply her intelligence to something else. I guess we'll see. We don't have proof that Dakota has a sugar source (though it is likely); no matter what Taylor says, it is clear Tom Moneybags is footing all the bills.

I personally don't like or want to be like either of these women, but just because Taylor looks somewhat better physically and lives a luxurious lifestyle - I would not say that is the $100,000 version of Dakota.

Dakota could get back in the game by writing a tell-all book.about her crazy enmeshed family and what it was like growing up in that toxic waste dump. I might actually buy it.

No. 23067


She's not super fascinating, but there's enough there to keep me interested. I'm mostly amused by what an idiot she is. Even the most basic, widely-known things elude her. Like how she hadn't heard of "something borrowed, something blue" until her wedding day, or how she noted that fashion often moves in cycles and was amazed by her own profundity kek

She's just a pretty little idiot with an easy life who, despite living abroad for so long, has never managed to cultivate any valuable insights into the world around her. That's funny to me.

No. 23068

I agree, but she was most interesting during her dolly days where every video was fake. She's currently interesting due to her husband's shady partnerships and income sources finally being revealed.

It gets boring when newfags think people must be jealous of Kota or Taylor. I'm neither and that seems to be a hard concept to grasp. We knew the spending money sources were shady from the start, it just took time for the reveal and that's the entertainment.

The joke was that kaka never adapted the lingo, people always call her out on replies because she posted the same way or opinions each time. She'd get fired up about being called things like bald. In some ways Kaka is as unadaptable as Taylor.

No. 23069

Taylor may not be doing much now and certainly is living a pretty indolent lifestyle, but at least for the first 7 or so years of her career she hustled and worked a lot. You can tell by how full her old modeling portfolio was. And it was just working model stuff. Lots of campaigns, editorial, catalogue. At 23 (same age as Kota now) she was modeling full time during the day and studying nutrition at night. What is Kota doing now exactly other than scamming freebies out of acquaintances. Also Taylor worked at a shitty minimum wage hostessing job at a crappy restaurant as a teenager. Call me when Kota is ever humble enough to do something like that.
No question, Taylor is legitimately terrible at language. It's obvious even in her native English. Cantonese is a lot harder to learn than Japanese as well. And unlike Kota, Taylor isn't confident in herself which makes putting yourself out there much more difficult. Dakota otoh was 16 when she came to Japan an age when it's generally a lot easier to learn learn a second language. This explains why her pronunciation is good basically, that and having good ear. Kota also thought that she was hot shit and talked like it. Confidence makes it a lot easier to learn and use a language. Most importantly, she was living with a Japanese guy which was pretty evident from the way she spoke. Finally, it took her 3 years to become proficient enough to be able to be on Japanese television. Taylor didn't live with a native speaker, and was 10 years older.

And if you want to talk about deficient character, Dakota and her family bullied other foreign models, most likely paid for her to go viral, and even now acts like a complete cunt when she thinks that she can get away with it. Plus, Dakota lied about having a deadly form of cancer less than a year ago in order to hide having a cosmetic procedure done. Which is still beyond the pale for me.

No. 23070

I think they're both shit, just different flavors of shit, and I slightly respect hints of general intelligence more than I respect Taylor's O-faces and overdrawn lips in front of cameras. You can stop defending the poor dear now. She's not confident so she has a Youtube and Instagram account full of her filtered and photoshopped mug. OK then.

I moved to a foreign country as an adult, didn't live with a native speaker, and I could speak the language decently within a year. After two years, I was much better, and after the third year, I would call myself conversationally/everyday fluent. There were no topics I couldn't discuss at that point - the question was only how detailed. And no, I never took a class. Native speakers in my environment corrected me.

Taylor could learn a language if she wanted to try. But she preferred to pretend.

No. 23071

Yeah I don't buy that Taylor isn't confident. It's part of her brand to appeal to younger girls who watch the videos, but at the same time make them feel insecure and need to buy whatever she's buying or do whatever she's doing.

It takes a lot of balls to dress up in ridiculous outfits for attention (when it wasn't even work), pay someone to record or take pics of posing extra in public, and constantly be overexposed down to the bathroom things.

I'd say Kota has less confidence since we never see her real face or anything real of her bc she knows she looks like shit. She puts tighter controls on what we get to see.

But yes, they're both lazy in different ways. It may be easier to learn languages when younger, but that doesn't mean it's impossible - especially when you have the means and free time to make the conscious choice.

No. 23072

I'm not defending her. I'm offering an explanation as to why she gives up learning languages. She obviously hates making mistakes and learning a language is about being willing to make mistakes. She's not a confident speaker. Kota is and has been from the start.

No. 23073

Why does Menclub follow Sophie (peachmilky) and did Sophie and Taylor ever interact? I could've sworn they avoided each other most of the time Taylor was in Tokyo despite all of the mutual friends.

No. 23074

You might already have part of your answer there, friend. Jealousy perhaps?

No. 23075

Taylor seemed like an outsider to the jvloggers for the longest time tbh. Everyone seemed to be really close except for her, who needed viewers and got better attention by attaching to Venus.

No. 23076

I always envied Taylor's family and how involved they are with eachother. It could just be ~them being rich~ but I really like how they are connected whenever something happens or they come over to visit to celebrate something.
Kind of sad I don't get to see Rosie, though.

No. 23077


BTW in the article they write about how Taylor is wearing underwear with a flower print at the upskirt event and are fantasizing about he she could "show everything" like one of the other girls did.

No. 23078

Really?! Thanks for that translation.

No. 23079


sage but I never really watched Taylor until I came across her in the Venus/Margo thread and made Margo screech, so of course I had to have a watch

Now I think her vlogs are pretty relaxing and I like to have them on in the background while doing internet stuff.

No. 23080

I'm so amazed all of this milk was missed. This little update has been fun to read!
I wonder what else she is in that there is to find? If she wasn't in much of the photos on the site or videos, is it safe to assume she was more involved in the "gentleman's club" portion of the site behind a paywall?

No. 23081

>is it safe to assume she was more involved in the "gentleman's club" portion of the site behind a paywall

No. They were already dating by the time she appeared on it. Menclub started in late 2013/2014 according to Tom. The "gentleman's club" is a dating service affiliated with and sharing customers with an Australian dating site, Datetix. This feature started in 2015.
Promoting your girlfriend on your website is sketchy but not in the way the you are implying.

No. 23082

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>upskirt event

What the heck kind of event was this? This isn't wholesome or funny at all.

No. 23083

It literally says it on the wall. It was an official Hong Kong fashion week event that happened to have an extremely unfortunate design for it's red carpet. Starzpeople sent Taylor and their other models there.

No. 23084

You guys are hilarious. She was on the site! She is a model and was in suggestive photo shoots! ACTUAL PROSTITUTE.

No. 23085

This isn't true. Menclub announced her single status in Feb 2013. >>22970

She was somehow affiliated with the site earlier than that, or they would not have announced it like this. I'm not sure exactly when Tom and Taylor started dating, but it would have been after this announcement, presumably.

There are a few archive.org hits for the website in 2012. Most say "coming soon" but the website must have gone live in October or November 2018 based on the snapshot on Nov 30.

Given that Tom contacted Taylor in 2012, he probably contacted her to do things for Beautyexchange. (There's a post on his FB site dated Dec 16, 2012, where he says "BE girls rock" - there's a thumbnail of a now-deleted Taylor video included in the screenshot.) But she also must have been affiliated with Menclub in its primordial stages, as there are FB posts about her in very early 2013, including the weird one announcing that she's single and asking if any Menclub readers have the balls to date her.

No. 23086

Where exactly did you read this, anon?
Because from the same article…
(And) Taylor R. revealed floral underwear, which is very unfortunate, who would've thought that signing (the wall) would result in getting exposed? The worst part is they were all unaware.

The entire thing was just an inappropriately placed mirror at an event that caused a number of female artists to suffer a fashion mishap.

No. 23087

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Unblurred it’s all sorts of fucked up

No. 23088

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No. 23089

Sorry, I meant "the website must have gone live in Oct or Nov 2012" (not 2018)

No. 23090

No Kaka, doing suggestive or sexy photo shoots doesn't make anyone a prostitute.

That's disgusting. I bet the stuff was aware but they didn't tell the models because they are perverts.

No. 23091

it was definitely done on purpose because why put mirrors angled that way next to where
a) they will pose for the camera
b) get them to lean and sign the wall so they are stood front facing the mirror with cooch all out for extended amounts of time

No. 23092


The sole reason why people think Taylor is the best looking jvlogger or was, is because she's the most normal looking white girl among the rest of ugly fuckers over there. Take Taylor to the UK, AUS or US she looks as mundane as any other white girl. She's average and skinny. That's it. I don't get why everyone fawns over her look. She isn't that pretty in my opinion. Just better looking than Dakota, Katie, ect

No. 23093

Because "average and skinny" white girls actually do look good by most people's standard.

No. 23094

That's the reason why she had to go to China/Japan for modelling. If you are average looking, white and skinny, you'll get the opportunity to work with big brands overseas but not in Europe or US. Hell, you can look like Himezawa can get a contract, that's how low the standards are.

No. 23095

Her fillers were something else here, she almost looks like a different person. But this >>23091 is really fucked up.

No. 23096

Taylor is hardly average, there's a reason people like her looks.

No. 23097

Taylor is pretty, but without all the cutesy trendy stuff she's very "generic-pretty". She has a cute face but isn't really memorable.

No. 23098


*dif anon

Honestly, to each there own. I don't personally like her looks or body, but it's not worth debating because everyone has different preferences. Debating her looks will just result in the same outcome as the jaw debate that happened in Dakota's thread. ( shit storm/sperging )

No. 23099

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okey but why does she look so weird lately. I get that she has fillers but I think also the blonde hair in combination with her make up looks so irritading. STOP it girl

No. 23100

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are the fillers deflating or?

No. 23101

her lips lmao

No. 23102

she never had fillers it was debunked a millennium ago from her hamster cheeks in hk candids but has been kept alive out of spite lol. she just photoshopped her face slimmer and so did ads.

No. 23103

This was after a long day I believe, so her makeup gave up. That said, I wished she wouldn't overdraw her lips all the time, she looks much better natural. Also she's never getting rid of all those pimples on her chin if she keeps smothering them with makeup.

No. 23104

She looks so washed out. Her hair looked way better with the gold highlights and lowlights. This oversaturated blondencolor is in style now but it just doesn't suit everyone.

Lmao are you for real rn

No. 23105

I remember she kept saying it was from weight gain and she wanted to loose it again so her cheeks would not protude anymore. Which I call bullshit. It was not like she gained 30 pounds, she was still very slim but her cheeks were massive. It would have made more sense if she told her viewers that she is allergic to something, because this lie would not have been so easy to debunk. We will see if her cheeks inflate again when she gets pregnant, because according to her logic: weight gain = fat cheeks

No. 23106

I don't know anything about cheek fillers. However, I do recognize the odd mouth corners she has. I think she's had a small amount of filler to compensate for the beginning of marionette lines (a problem for people with certain face shapes & bone structure). This type of filler helps lift the mouth corner.

I've had it two times (I'm in my mid-20s - it is a genetic problem). The second time, the woman injected too much. It puffed out just how Taylor's mouth area looked around the time she cut her hair.
just one example: https://www.instagram.com/p/Bnuci4aHSa6/
You can see it in a lot of other videos and pictures. Because the filler dissolves, the puffiness goes away after awhile.

She obviously edits these pictures and smooths that area out more, but you can still see the puff where the filler might be. I used to think all that puffiness around her lower mouth/chin was her acne, but in this case, I think she's had this small amount of filler to lift her mouth corners.

I don't judge her for doing it. I did it because I got tired of people telling me I looked sad or angry.

No. 23107

Volkswagen deleted the commercial but I remember there was something strange about Taylor's jaw or chin and her face was also very bloated in the Japanese drama kodoku no gurume.

No. 23108

>she never had fillers

That one anon who keeps insisting it was "debunked" without receipts is back.

Anyone who had fillers can recognize how they seem on the face, especially in odd angles because the change is immediate until it settles.

She definitely had a top up before coming to Toronto on the cheeks and around her nasolabial or marionette area. At her age and looking at her family's genetics there's no point in pretending she's natural.

No. 23109

With these type of fillers, wouldn't she have bruising? I know I had pretty bad bruising when I got mine done (not large, but just relatively dark). Do y'all think she just doesn't film for a week or so when she gets them done?

No. 23110

Those "pimples" are mostly likely scars from the looks of it.

No. 23111

If you're getting bruising it could be the way your doctor was doing it that one time or you're genetically inclined in that spot for bruising. Not everyone is the same.

No. 23112

lmao she looks like Sere from this angle

No. 23113

Mommy anons might be able to tell me but what the fuck is the point of taking prenatal vitamins when she's "trying for a baby" in January?

No. 23114

to build up solid levels of things like folic acid, several B vitamins (12, 7, maybe 6), vitamin D, and zinc; deficiencies in those vitamins have been linked to birth defects and many OB/GYNs suggest that people who are "trying" get a head start

No. 23115

I was told to take them by my doctor for hair growth and healthier skin

No. 23116

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Damn, they're moving fast lately with everything. I wonder if she's going to cash in on family vlogging. ( Honest to god hope not )


Lol. Her face just naturally randomly swells or looks like she was stung by bees.

No. 23117

Well the first 5 are obvious and all from same month long period more than 4 years ago. The last one gets posted and it's just a really bad angle because in the drama the main character is looking down at her and she's looking up with kind of a weird fisheye lense. If you look at other scenes from the same episode she looks less puffy.
Anyway, I'm really not sure why we are discussing her fillers again. Plus this thread stinks of Kiki.

No. 23118

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No, the bruising is minor to non-existent as long as you aren't drinking excessively or taking NSAIDs. Taylor also wears full coverage foundation and concealer - she could cover a bruise if necessary.

People with her face shape are prone to getting these lines earlier than people with different face shapes, I think. But it's clear that this is probably not the only "upkeep" she is having done - it's just the only thing I know anything about personally.

I don't think anyone who gets fillers should be shamed for that (obviously kek). Taylor is going overboard, though - the Pocky commercial and the (pic related) ad… That's not just filler underneath her mouth corners, obviously

No. 23119

>However, I do recognize the odd mouth corners she has.

she has always had them lol. the comparison pictures are literally available on previous threads with the same rehashed pictures debunked over and over. only for the same floridian autist to selfpost about her nonexistent fillers and pretend they were never debunked. consistently. for years. i'm not about to dig up shit from 2015 but they're in previous threads for anyone who wants to see.

No. 23120


Point is that she did have fillers, and homegirls face shouldn't drastically puff out like that from bad angles or smiling. Even in the pocky video, she had moments where her face wasn't puffy.

anyways, I figured most assume this pocky video is lost :

No. 23121

It only puffed up once. It's possible to bloat or swell up from other shit including allergies. The last thing I would think of is fillers when looking at that picture. You can't claim she uses frequent fillers today while using a 4 year old picture with a face she no longer has.

No. 23122

I'm not saying she didn't have fillers there. But she had toned them down a lot compared to the mess in 2014. The angle/lense is partially to blame for how weird it looks.

No. 23123

I've noticed that first vlog after long plane rides she always look puffier. It goes pretty quickly though. Not sure what that's about. And I don't think she's getting her filler topped off at the airport.

No. 23124

I was just sharing my personal opinion & experience about the puffiness around her mouth.

Anyway, I think it's interesting that the posts about menclub are getting buried in this crap.

No. 23125

I really like Taylor but once she gets pregnant I’m probably going to stop watching her videos. Shit is boring and I don’t give a fuck about a baby. Sage

No. 23126


You are supposed to take folic acid for at least one month before trying for a baby so you have high enough levels in your body to reduce the risks of neural tube defects. It's most important to take them before pregnancy and in the first 12 weeks of pregnancy.

No. 23127

Wtf are you serious? Taylor would have mentioned her allergy instead of making up lies about weight gain. Anon mentioned here >>23105 that saying she has an allergy would have made more sense because you can't prove it and now you are saying that she had an allergy causing these fat cheeks???
Something is telling me that you are either Taylor or a retarded Taylor stan

No. 23128

You do realise it's normal to get fillers done regularly, right? She could have started early, considering she has been modelling for a long time

No. 23129

It's OK anon, the they'll always be here in the thread waiting for whoever wants a chuckle.

No. 23130

Topping off a few days before a trip is just like getting a manicure before a trip and it seems she often does things with this routine. It takes even less time than a manicure, maybe 10 minutes to get done.

Can a summary post about menclub be made? People seem to be in doubt still.

No. 23131

she said in the video, that her doc recommended taking them thee month before trying or sth

No. 23132

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she 100% has cheek fillers.
she probably got them originally to have a 'uber cute kawaii baby face' but now has them as an attempt to reverse the aging process/look younger.

In the pic attached, see how flat her entire under eye/cheek region is? That looks fine when you're young with plump skin but as you age your skin obviously begins to droop. That lack of volume there is a recipe for looking haggard af.

No. 23133

The obvious answer is she had it done once, realized it looked horrible and never did it again.

it's not bulimia cheeks, that happens farther down in the face (see Yumi King), and weight gain wouldn't make ONLY her cheeks fatter without affecting her chin or any other parts of her face. You can see in these photos/videos that she still has bony wrists so if she did gain weight it certainly wasn't much, and not enough to affect her face this way.

WHen you've eliminated the other options, what's left must be the truth. She had fillers to try to make her face look more round and childlike, realized she looked stupid, and never did it again. The end.

No. 23134

I was the anon who kind of triggered the recent interest in menclub and found the posts about her on their FB, including the announcement of her single status and upskirt ogling. I have a deadline to meet tonight but will be happy to write up a summary tomorrow.

No. 23135

Her announcement of being single is so weird

No. 23136

>in the drama

Wait, homegirl was in a drama? Like asian soap opera? Source?

Also: Her Toronto condo was posted on PULL. Is it doxxing to list the name of the apartment building? It's a huge ass building downtown, but they definitely got one of the nicest units

No. 23137

yup she was in a drama but it's old milk. Just search for it on her channel

No. 23138

Really? Those pulltards are the worst. Never post private information, that's illegal and dangerous.

No. 23139

I like Taylor and I'm happy she's doing well, but this video really reminds me of her

No. 23140

They did not doxed her , it was just pictures of the unit which she herself showed already and the price , there wasn’t there any private information

No. 23141

>posting where she lives isn't doxxing
fuck off pulltard.

No. 23142

That's not what was posted…and you know it. Basically someone on PULL posted a a screenshot(that they have since removed) of a real estate listing that included the price and sell date and it was really easy to track her exact building and unit from it.
When it comes to Taylor, PULL a-logs so hard.

No. 23143

Yeah She'll probably post less or leave her baby with a nanny like she does Rosie.

No. 23144

Are you serious? Posting the building is enough to find out her exact location since her and Tom's last name are public. That's fcking dangerous and insane. Those pulltards are so obsessed. I bet the Monstrengas are posting there regularly since they tear Taylor down and praise Dakota for her ugly shoops.

No. 23145

She is the dumb one. She’s the one who posted a video showing the house and you can obviously see the background outside the windows and find where she lives easily. But as usual, being the not-so-smart Taylor, it’s okay not to have privacy as long as she can show the whole world how big and expensive their house are.

You can also hear how annoyed Tom were in the car after they went for Christmas shopping vlog. She love to buy a lot of unnecessary things and obviously not the one who will have to pay for it. With everything she bought online (the boxes never stopped coming in her vlogs) I’m sure she never pays for anything and just spending his money carelessly. Cant you be any more spoiled bimbo Taytay? LOL girl.

No. 23146

>You can also hear how annoyed Tom were in the car after they went for Christmas shopping
I noticed that too. She didn't even consider what he wanted for decorations next year and is only thinking about what she wants.

No. 23147

Of course Taylor should have been more cautious but I read the posts on Pull and someone recognized the neighborhood and doxed it. That's not okay. I could have never guessed the building in my live since I don't come from this place. And if I even knew, I wouldn't have told the world about it. It's morally wrong to tell anyone's building/address because that could put the doxed person in danger. If you can't see the difference between right and wrong, then you should look for help honestly.

No. 23148

Found another clip from her over the top kawaii era. Was this for mensclub ? Its only 15 seconds long and not in English.


No. 23149

Sweetie, I’m not saying it’s right to post people’s address or buildings online, but be realistic, they won’t know it if she doesn’t show it all over her video at the first place. Out of all people, i think she’s the one who should know and understand how the online works and the bad outcomes if she do that. Don’t you think so?But still she showed it nonetheless, well you gotta show what you gotta show the world. Ka-ching!$$$. Who’s the one need helps now huh?

No. 23150

I agree with you anon. As a public figure she should know the risk of putting that kind of stuff online..you can’t blame anyone else, it’s her fault. She should know how crazy people online are.

The anon didn’t even say what they did was right…She was just stating the fact that it is Taylor’s fault,which is true..she is the one who needs help because she can’t go a day without flaunting how rich they are and how much money they have (when it is not even HER money, how embarrassing) and she’s the one who makes it not safe from online people….

No. 23151


Diff anon.

I agree to a certain extent. Most youtuber's homes get exposed eventually anyways because there will always be that one crazy fan/hater that'll spend hours looking. Maybe Taylor just doesn't care anymore if people look into her because all her info is basically already out there. She's got what she wanted and that's marriage to a rich man. Maybe she's going to just on the flexing trend late, and start acting like Alissa Violet ( retarded and spoiled ).

No. 23152

Is that Cantonese? So creepy.

The editing is so much better in these
older videos. When did Elbowsan stop paying for all of that? Her voice and tone are also different, like a little girl's.

No. 23153

go jump off a bridge

No. 23154

Do you bitches mind saging so this doesn’t get autosaged again? Only unsage if you have new info

Anyways, the men’s club thing doesn’t seem too bad. It’s not like it’s an Ashley Madison

No. 23155

honestly, that´s one reason why I watch her though. She lives this bubbled careless life of a spoiled bimbo. It´s entertaingin in my eyes

No. 23156

do ypu guys see how shes lifting he brows to open he eyes?? He forehead should be wrinkly no? I´m sure she got bodox. Even nowadays.
I really wanna know why she didn´t get lip injections when she was so crazy about Kylie and is overdrawing he lips every day

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I think because she likes her heart-shaped lips which might be hard to maintain with fillers. Also, lip fillers are even more obvious and noticeable than cheek fillers are. Every youtuber with them has bulging anus lips or you can see them protruding from the side profile.

She made the smart decision not to.

No. 23158

Looked exactly like one of Koot's videos at first, damn.

Botox costs less than a takeout lunch from Kupfert and Kim, she's had it all around the eye area and forehead for years at this point.

Looking forward to it anon.

No. 23159

Looks nothing like Kooters videos. Kooter uses After Effects so she never moves like a freaking muppet. This video in particular was so great that I think Taylor had a cutter since she doesn't seem to be the brightest. Kota is just too lazy make such a video and poor to have a cutter

No. 23160

Agreed. The issue is YouTubers don't live in a bubble. Their audience is all around them and sometimes in the millions. I used to live under the hill where Ryan Higa's new house was, and every time I went to the store I saw it. Eventually, I started noticing the cross streets in the background of videos and it made me feel like a total creep… but I just live nearby.

I feel like Taylor in particular just would not care. I mean Tom can just pay for a new place any way, right?

No. 23161

An apartment like this is way more secure than a house anyway, they have security and doormen and stuff. Remember when someone tried to break into her old house in Japan?

No. 23162

still cuter than dakota :)(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 23163

The toilets are all clogged because "of the pipes" so Elbowsan and Taylor put a bunch of home remedies down the toilet (baking soda + vinegar, coke + detergent in the tank, plunger) but nothing works.
Oh and Bibi does a short interview saying she regrets leaving Japan or something.

No. 23164

Wow, that looks weird.

No. 23165

all i can see is plastic

No. 23166

Her hair looks so flat and washed out like this, like she's a halfass Ppppy cosplayer or smth.

No. 23167

what is her fascination with poop now and why do you have to include it in a fucking vlog. The moment when she looked at the toilet and said "what did I eat???" I puked in my mouth ffs

No. 23168

She looks so skinny in this one. Like I know she's a model but geez.
Probably because it changes the face too obviously.

No. 23169

Seeing how careless they are about putting random shit in the toilet is making me worry. I get that it's "hacks" but she doesn't seem too far off from mixing potentially dangerous cleaning supplies

No. 23170

I don't want her address but I am curious at to how much the apartment cost. Can an anon post the price or just an approximate?

No. 23171

I don’t actually know specifically, but based on the location and size? Definitely above $1mill, probably closer to $3-4mill.

No. 23172

That is insane. Tom is clearly loaded but two multi-million dollar apartments and endless shopping? Why does she even bother with YouTube? She is in the prime position to actually have those 4 kids she wants and be a present stay at home mum providing the best life possible for her kids. But she won't as long as there is endless household shit to buy and YouTuve attention

No. 23173


Why are you shocked? Taylor talks about her period blood, pimples and dirty habits, not that crazy for her to show and talk about her shit.


Because she's an attention whore and wants fame, anon.

No. 23174

>was just stating the fact that it is Taylor’s fault

Not to WK but: Nice victim-blaming. If she didn't want us to find her house she shouldn't have posted a video with visible windows in it!!

Honestly the bitches at PULL or here are not the problem. But I guarantee she had stalkers-every woman online has. She's incredibly visible. Notice she never shows chest or cleavage in videos/photos. My guess is to try and deter creeps. If any creep finds her house, both her and any future toddlers are in danger. Doxxing is inexcusable.

No. 23175

you haven't watched her videos or looked at pictures from the past year then. her wedding dress video was a whole lot of boobs

No. 23176

That was the only one, and presumably a creep's fantasy is not a woman in a wedding dress. She also seemed awkward about it even though it looked pretty, and then got married in a suit, so.

Also remember to put sage in the email field.

No. 23177

It wasn't the only one, but I'm not going to make a list for you.

No. 23178

Haha, do it. It's just something I've noticed, she never wears revealing clothes. I would say it was from learned experience. There's no doubt someone who easily nets 200,000 views per video has a few weirdos after her.

No. 23179

These vlogmas videos from Tay are becoming more and more boring by the day. Bii looks awful.

No. 23180

Agreed. That whole baby fever is so boring. And Bii looks like a troon

No. 23181

Thumbnail is like two women who could look great but botched their faces.

No. 23182

Surprised Bii even agreed to film with Taylor. Hasn't she been super depressed and down about her life lately? Are they even friends?

No. 23183

After reading the filler sperging above, I can notice the cheek filler more. One side is more swollen than the other. It's subtle though. I am the same age as her and had REALLY full cheeks in my early twenties, hers are currently fuller than mine. I got cheekbones now.

No. 23184

As someone from the area, she shows too much in her videos. You can see signs of streets and the view of iconic sceneries make it clear the area she lives.

For those who care, she is in a condo near the core of Toronto so it is pretty pricey and funnily it’s known for being bought by asians who drive the market up and rarely live in these places. It’s a big issue for the city because housing prices are bad and no one seems to be in the condos that exist. Living in the core is not really the ideal for starting a family but I think they can’t afford the much pricier nice houses that are a bit in the suburbs.

No. 23185

I'm no stan but the right to me doesn't look like fillers, it looks like swelling/moon face from taking corticosteroids or synthetic cortisols. They are often prescribed to people post-surgery, so maybe she had some sort of work done, or a really bad infection where she had to take them otherwise.

But I really doubt either way that they are fillers because it would be like three syringes worth per cheek, to get them that big. She's rich so I don't doubt that she gets fillers (considering her age) but I don't think that the puffy cheeks was her going overboard, probably due to something else.

No. 23186

Corticosteroids or synthetic cortisols don't let your cheeks swell. She would have to take a massive amount of cortisol and then her whole body would swell up and not only her cheeks kek. But you you could be partly right. I think she got fillers and she got an allergic reaction where she got the injections.

No. 23187

I was shocked when I saw the thumbnail. I like Bii but in comparison to Taylor she looks like an orange man with fake lips and a wig. I am sorry. Bii please leave the fcking fillers alone and stop fake tanning! Even though she is younger than Taylor, she looks about 10 years older than her.

Why would she say no to filming with Taylor? She has nearly 1 Million subs which means probably more views/subs for Bii as it is cross-promotion.

No. 23188

File: 1544313495998.jpg (Spoiler Image,148.78 KB, 1200x1057, example.jpg)

It is a common side effect.
Here is an example from someone on twitter: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3hw9eJWIAY9nbU.jpg

No. 23189

next time she says she's shy and introverted this picture will come to mind

No. 23190

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the lenses and the agyosal shits and the brows up fucking expression she looks like a damn alien

No. 23191

Why? She always looks uncomfortable at events including that one. Look how stiff she is. The reflection thing isn't her fault.

No. 23192

you taytay stans are something else. She clearly knew the mirror was there and still posed for the picture, that's why.

No. 23193

Not a stan. I just think it's ridiculous to assume something like that. Especially since there were lots of other people caught up in it too. It seems like it wasn't obvious in person.

No. 23194

That's a bit of a reach anon.

Look at how many people signed the wall:
Every single one of them wearing a skirt would've had the same issue as Taylor, you think they all did it for attention too? Many of the people who accidentally got upskirted at that event were legitimately famous people who definitely didn't need it.

The angle of the mirror is like the angled mirrors at shoe stores. Most likely when you're beside it, you just see your own feet and its only from a distance you can see up their skirt.

No. 23195

I thought people knew what was going on. My bad, I guess.

No. 23196

This girls face is completely swollen. Look at her eyes, cheeks, lips, even her nose looks a bit swollen. Taylors face on the other hand had just swollen cheeks which proves that she had an reaction against the fillers. Are you really that naive? Taylor said that she gained weight and therefore her cheeks got big which is a lie. She would have told us if she had an allergic reaction. And if she had an operation than she would have told us too as her latest operation regarding her cyst. I am pretty sure she got some cortisols and other medication but her cheeks were alright.

No. 23197

phew smells like kiki in here

No. 23198

Man, why is it considered too wild and crazy to believe that Taylor had fillers when her face clearly shows round swelling only in the cheeks that lasted a long as time.>>744052

Unless she broke a facial bone or shaved her jaw the swelling shouldn't last months/year. If anons want to take a look at wild over the top tin foiling, then go look at Kota's thread being full of " she works for the Yakuza" " she's sleeping with her manager at the age of 16/17" "she has a sugar daddy". Like I'm no Kota stan, but that to me is more wild and unbelievable than some rich girl obsessed with looking young getting fillers.

No. 23199

Aside from the yakuza stuff-which is just ten kinds of stupid and based off inacurate information to boot- I don't think any of the other stuff is that far off the mark. I think that Taylor had terribad fillers in 2014 and continues to get slightly less bad ones to this day. I also believe that Kota has had someone or several someones pulling strings for her since about 2013. I'm guessing it started with someone from Bravo because they acted really really shady when it came to her career. After that, probably someone in entertainment or media.

No. 23200

Just watched the old video "My Mom meets Sharla", and her nose looks much bigger than now? Her "old" nose is small too but the current one is extra small. She has cheek fillers and lenses in the old video so both things would negate visible nose size, but it still looks larger. >>23185
I agree it looks a bit like a reaction to something/to the injection itself.

No. 23201

She used to try to make her face look much smaller back then so all of her features looked bigger on her face. Since she seems to be going for a western look now, she doesn't seem to care about having a small face anymore. So now, her whole face looks bigger and fuller.

No. 23202

Her new vlog was so boring I didn’t even get the point?? Buying stuff again?

No. 23203


Didn't she use some sort of software to shrink her features? I remember her Rosie goes to Japan video and her face being sooo wiggly/weird looking in it. I feel like she did use to use aftereffects on her OTT dolly videos, cause her face has just never looked as petite and slim.

No. 23204

How do you think a chubby, bald and mediocre looking girl like Kota got all of her jobs? You're stupid and delusional. All of Japans agencies are under control of the Yakuza. This is a fact. But noooo precious dolly alien baby Kota got her jobs all on her own ~uwuu. Of course she has no direct connection to the Yakuza but her agency does for sure.


No. 23205


Why would a gang with such power give little to any shit about a balding, poor, average, rude and unlikeable twat ? What in the world would they get in return, nothing!! There are hundreds of beyond your imagination Russian models in Japan that look 10 billion times better than both Kota and Taylor. Why would they choose Kota to help or promote?

All her jobs had one thing in common, that was that they didn't introduce her by name but rather by " human Barbie". She got her jobs by building connections and because she went viral. Like every fucking living doll did. If she was so important and connected to the gangs why have her jobs been dried up since late 2015? You dear, sound very flustered and assblasted.

No. 23206

>She got her jobs by building connections and because she went viral.
No. She didn't get her jobs from the yakuza but someone was definitely getting her jobs pre-popteen era and now post popteen. The first jobs she got were from going viral, but the ones that came after in 2013 came via dubious means.
>All her jobs had one thing in common, that was that they didn't introduce her by name
A lot of her jobs introduced her by name?

It was really boring. One thing that struck me is that they both spend money so carelessly. It's their choice I guess (especially Tom) but I can't say I wasn't a little taken aback by him going to the store for nose spray and coming out with over $600 of stuff. I mean even if you're wealthy that seems like conspicuous consumption. The furnishings I understand more but still , you don't need to have every knick-knack in place from the beginning.
She definitely did. That Rosie video is nightmare fuel. After that weird period, she seemed to have found more of a balance. Still she used programs the different lenses to make her face seem smaller.

No. 23207

You serious? Of course she would give sexual favours. Kota is not ugly but mediciore. There's probably one Yakuza who likes gaijin. Tastes are different. Why would these pretty Russian girls stay in Japan and suck Yakuza dick when they can have a career in New York or Paris? Kota has no other choice in comparison. She would do anything to stay in Japan. Even someone as tall and pretty as Taylor needed a powerful person who got her jobs. And this was Elbow San with his connections.

No. 23208

Kota did not get her jobs through yakuza connections. She got them because her booker played fast and loose with the truth while promoting her. After Popteen and her year as a TV tarento, whatever she gets now is from the connection she made during that time, especially Popteen. And maybe the yakuza have some control over her talent agency but they have bigger fish to fry than some basic token gaijin.

Tom did not get Taylor jobs. He doesn't have that kind of pull. He has a lot of money from his web platforms but that's not the kind of thing that would get Taylor booked her in fashion. She was also working the most between 2009-2012 way before she even knew Tom. And she worked a lot. Lots of fashion/beauty editorial, campaigns, and catalogue. When she younger especially, she had a good look for it. Her face/figure was very versatile. Shame she threw it away.

No. 23209

So because you are saying that isn't true, everybody has to change their opinions? Who are you? God? At least I have based my opinion on reports who expose the wrong-doings of agencies and the media. There are several media outlets writing about the same stuff that the enteratinment industry of Japan is under the control of the Yakuza. Do you have proofs that this isn't true? Are you really this blinded? The people who are writing about this stuff are journalists who are educated, have studied journalism and did a lot of research on this topic. And then you, a random farmer comes along and says everything is untrue because you said so. Think about it: Kota isn't in her prime anymore. She is chubby and bald and there are hundreds of young and pretty models in Japan right now. So who gets the job for Google? Logically one of the young and pretty models. But that's not the case at all. Big ol' bald Kota gets the job. There is definetely someone helping her out and this person is very powerful. Probably a person with Yakuza connections. And when you think that Kota is a small fish and no Yakuza is actually interested: read the other threads here. There are many gaijins who are modelling, waitressing and whatever but they are in certain circles.

And regarding Taylor. I am not talking about her old self in Hong Kong. She was a successful model on her own right at that time. I am talking about her new self in Japan when she wanted everyone to believe she is a girl boss. Tom did help her out for sure.

No. 23210

Oh ffs, fine maybe she is using yakuza connections now. I don't know. I just mean that she didn't start that way. Back in the day it was definitely Hiroshi from Bravo pulling every trick he had in order to make her into a star. If there are yakuza connections she probably made them no early than 2015 when she was working as a geinojin.

>I am talking about her new self in Japan when she wanted everyone to believe she is a girl boss. Tom did help her out for sure.

Even with that, he wasn't getting her jobs in fashion. He didn't get her parts in dramas. He doesn't have that kind of influence. He did use his money however to help her make a name for herself online of course and pretty much all of her work in Japan came from that. So in that way he did help her get jobs, I guess. But directly having the kind of connections whoever's backing Kota obviously has, not so much.
In conclusion it's seems:
Taylor has (Tom's) money and media which helped promote her. The fame she achieved helped get her jobs in Japan.
Kota doesn't have money but she does have someone high enough up that basically can hand her things like Fit's (should have been a major stepping stone for her), Babyfang, Rakuten collab, and now a google cm.

No. 23211

We also speculated that Kota didn't have Yakuza connections at the beginning of her career since she didn't have much jobs. It probably started when she got Candy Doll and Popteen but of course we don't know exactly.

I agree Taylor benefited from Tom's money and got the TV role and some other fashion jobs through her agency/castings and not through Tom but I am still not convinced that she got all of her jobs in Japan on her own because apparently he has a beauty company and some anon here once pointed out that Taylor indeed worked for his company a few times. But I can't find the post at the moment..

No. 23212

This constant yakuza Kota talk is coming off like an effort to derail the discussion. Why not discuss the 13 year old swimsuit model recently featured on MC or are we still pretending Taylor's husband's website is just a Chinese version of Maxim?

He seems to have a lot of connections to the Japanese entertainment industry if you look at the Japanese women who've done exclusive video or photo shoots for his company. Of course, they're mostly porn stars, gravure models, and c-list celebrities, but Taylor's modeling jobs and TV drama appearances in Japan weren't exactly top level work, either. Elbowsan is also quite connected to the car ad industry through his job.

No. 23213

>It probably started when she got Candy Doll and Popteen but of course we don't know exactly.
I'd go about a year later than that. I remember that she went to some Halloween party in 2015, and some weird Japanese anon who talked a lot about the yakuza connections of models and idols mentioned that all of the talento in the photos with her had yakuza connections and so did she.

>he has a beauty company and some anon here once pointed out that Taylor indeed worked for his company a few times

Absolutely true. The company is Beauty Exchange and any time that Taylor did any work for them, it was through him. But since she probably didn't get paid for it, I'm guessing they saw it as mutually beneficial. HK based Beauty Exchange was promoted by Japan based Taylor on her social media. Beauty Exchange gave Taylor the illusion of being in demand and busy.

No. 23214


>>I remember that she went to some Halloween party in 2015, and some weird Japanese anon who talked a lot about the yakuza connections of models and idols mentioned that all of the talento in the photos with her had yakuza connections and so did she.

That's interesting. I am going to write something in the Kota thread because we are derailling the thread like anon said >>23212

No. 23215

Can you please talk about Kota on her own thread

No. 23216


Read >>23214 you retard and learn to sage

No. 23217

>Taylor wants to put the toaster in the cupboard after every use instead of leaving it on the table

No. 23218

>>Taylor wants to put the toaster in the cupboard after every use instead of leaving it on the table
How exciting. I'm sure that no one who watches it will be able to remain seated. She should have cut that entire part.
It's weird but I actually prefer this mess she created to her normal makeup. It's clumsy af but the glossy lip, rosy cheeks, and heavier eye makeup suit her better than her everyday Kylie Jenner lipkit look. Not saying this should be worn out or seen by anyone except her bathroom mirror, but there are aspects of it that work.
It definitely makes her look softer.

No. 23219

I absolutely cannot stand her vlogmas intro this year. It looks like a 12 year old drew it.

No. 23220

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The artist is Jacky Files who studied at the institute of the Arts in California. Her art is pretty amateurish/childish but if that's Taylor's taste…ok

No. 23221

wow I thought it was made by a teenage fan, this is embarassing.

No. 23222

I agree, despite how this is obviously a crazy look just for the video, parts of it show how much she's failing to bring out her good features normally; her makeup at her wedding as well was so much better than the blank-looking face with weird fish lips that she does daily.

No. 23223

Her other work isn't like this imo.
It's sweet, it doesn't need to be anything fancy for an intro.

No. 23224

90% of her Instafeed is like that. The other 10% are from her classes which aren't that great either. She's currently looking for some clients to do some graphics and animations and if she is coming up with this ugly childish mess of an animation for Taylor, who happens to be a big Youtuber and gives her a lot of exposure, then she is definitely a very bad artist. What would she animate for an unknown Youtuber for example? The outcome would be worse probably. If I would have the opportunity to animate for a big Youtuber than I wouldn't come up with this mess. Whatever. She seems to be proud of her '~art'.

No. 23225

It is. I just went through her twitter and her art is just bad (especially for someone who supposedly studied Arts).

No. 23226

Wew, I drew like this during middle school. This is supposed to be a professional? How much was she paid for this?

No. 23227

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I like the Taylor intro, but I would say it's her best work after seeing her Insta


No. 23228

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Her art hasn't improved much since her childhood

No. 23229

um do y'all wanna discuss this somewhere else?

No. 23230

I mean it's more relevant than discussing Kota and the Yakuza.

No. 23231

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It's about Taylors intro, so it's kinda relevant to this thread.

This girl is supposed to be a professional and Taylor hired her. I somehow have the feeling that either Calarts accepts every minimally talented ~artist or she probably lied about her resume. Apparently she was a trainee at South Park. Hmmm…who wants to talk about her in the artists thread because we are derailling? She seems to be a catfish and Taylor fell for her kek

No. 23232

Her drawing/animation is shit. Pretty simple that a highschool student can make.Taylor sometimes has poor taste in design. Look at those taytortot shirts and leggings she sold. Even the last vlogmas intro was a creepy 3d animation. I wonder how Taylor found this girls work.

No. 23233

Rosie has a broken leg, the floor appears to be slanted and nothing is on the same plane, Tom has one three-fingered hand, the window is crooked, Taylor is holding her camera in a clenched fist while the other hand is some kind of witch claw with stump fingers, the coloring is lazy and there's absolutely no shading. I wonder how much she paid for this.

No. 23234

This would be cute if it wasn't for the anus lips.

No. 23235

lmao anus lips

No. 23236

Tbh CalArts isn't shit these days. Most popular artists out of there seem to be aiming for the lazy basic character animation style these days… that's what's trendy rn.

No. 23237

Tbh CalArts isn't shit these days. Most popular artists out of there seem to be aiming for the lazy basic character animation style… that's what's trendy rn.

No. 23238

Tbh CalArts isn't shit these days. Most popular artists out of there seem to be aiming for the lazy basic character animation style… that's what's trendy rn.

No. 23239

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So, someone asked Tom about one of the sus Mens Club posts on his Instagram and he replied.

It's on this pic:

Link from the post:

I can't read Chinese so can't confirm what it says either way.

No. 23240

That cow tipper is so fucking cringe, if they’re so upset about girls who are young looking adult they shouldn’t be on fucking insta. The hypocrisy is huge

No. 23241

Cow tippers are cringe but lets not fucking act like he doesnt use models who by all other standards than HK break age of consent laws (and from what i saw upthread some of the models are underage even for the HK laws)
You seem more bothered about someone not liking underage models than you do the actual cow tipping lmao

No. 23242

the mens club stuff is weird but if that's been his business for years then he's not going to change it because a kpop account posts a public comment about it being wrong

No. 23243

It's hard tbh because it's not like Menclub is photographing the girls itself. Pretty much they just find pretty girls and than raid google images plus social media and write cliche Maxim-esque blurb. It's still gross but the line is a bit blurrier. This especially seems to be true if the girl in question is a public figure whose pictures are readily available.

No. 23244

So first everyone freaks out about MC and now it’s no big deal or?? Make up your mind people

No. 23245

Still, a Playboy tier website featuring an article about a girl born in 2005 is gross as fuck.
>inb4 "B-But they talk about other things on MC, like cars!!!"
It's still a website targeted to adult men. Even if MC was only about cars, even if we ignore the escort service and the underage section, why in the world would an adult man be interested in an article about a child model? Even without referring to her body in the article.
It's creepy and sketchy as hell and it's dumb to pretend otherwise.

It is a big deal. It's just that some Taylor stan keeps trying to sweep it under the rug.

No. 23246

Google translate is hilariously bad, but here's a translation of some of the comments on the page:

Title of the post is "I don’t want to move my hands 13 years old Model Jemima Robinson"

"Wrong, it’s a fall for you. The 18-year-old is a beautiful girl. It’s actually from Jemima Robinson, who was born in Australia. The canal was born in 2005. It’s only 13 years old this year, even the machine shop has not entered. However, it has already been a well-known swimsuit model, although the figure is gimmick (you want to order at the age of 13), but the victory in the proportion of people is good, still pleasing to the eye!"

"I thought that Li Yun’s 15-year-old swimsuit photo was caught and stunned. According to Jemima’s 13-year-old swimsuit, the photo was degraded and embarrassing! Is it true that the national conditions are the same, the times are the same, and the people are different?"

Even with bad translation, these comments are creepy. NO one shoud be commenting on how the "body proportion" of 13-year-olds is "pleasing to the eye," or that they were "caught and stunned" by a 15-year-old's swimsuit photo but this 13-year-old looks better.

No. 23247

Someone should ask him about the "Schoolgirls we fxxed" and "Under 18!" articles and creepy videos filmed exclusively for his company. At least Elbow's stans can now stop pretending he doesn't know about the content of his site.

No. 23248

if you're going to cow tip at least have a better smoking gun than "hurr durr you have young looking girls on your site" vs "you promote escorts"

one makes you look like a really fucking retarded sjw moralist

No. 23249

One of the most famous members of AKB48 Tomomi Itano was also in an exclusive MC video and interview in 2016 which confirms Elbowsan has some great connections to the Japanese entertainment industry.

No. 23250

Please post a link to the underage section. I can't find it on the site.

No. 23251

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I'm going to do my best to summarize the situation with Menclub.hk (also known on the web as Menclubhk and simply Menclub).

>>22883 I made this post in disgust at people talking about elbowsan's "self-made" career. As far as I know, Taylor's previous work for Menclub has never been a secret, but it wasn't clear until recently that Tom Lip owned the site.

>>23085 Tom claims Menclub is only 5 years old, but it's actually 6 years old. archive.org crawled the site in 2012. Most of the early hits say "coming soon," but between Oct and Nov 2012, the site went live. Girls were immediately a section of the site.

At this time, Taylor may have already been working for Beauty Exchange, one of Tom's other sites. There's a post on his FB site dated Dec 16, 2012, where he says "BE girls rock" - there's a thumbnail of a now-deleted Taylor video (the Cinderella one) included in the screenshot.

But Tom MIGHT have asked Taylor to work for menclub first, as he introduces her to Menclub on December 4, 2012 (see attached screenshot). The Menclub site is only 2 months old (tops) at this point. She was part of the original promotion for the site, which in turn promoted her social media and website.

On February 14, 2013, Taylor announces to Apple Daily that she is single, and the online magazine prints an article about it. This is promoted on the same day by Menclub.hk (on their website and on their FB page). Menclub asks their audience if they have the balls to date Taylor.

Menclub continues to promote Taylor with somewhat salacious posts:
https://www.facebook.com/menclub.hk/photos/a.153530161435047/497297700391623/?type=3&theater (showing Taylor's upskirt photos to their audience)

Taylor did at least three videos for Menclub. One can still be found (the robotic Happy Chinese New Year one):

The other two are:
a Christmas greeting (can't find it)
an interview (https://prettyuglylittleliar.net/uploads/monthly_2018_11/Screen_Shot_2018-11-24_at_2.38.51_PM.png.45191aee95e559b224e6d57834cb9a41.png)

I remember other content, but it seems to be deleted now. Many things were removed after she announced that she had a boyfriend.

Menclub itself seems to be a bit like Maxim, but people are upset about it because girls under 16 appear on the site. There's an entire section of "under 18" content. Recently Jasmine Hendricks, a 13yo model, was featured in a bikini in their "girls" section, and her body was discussed (no matter what Tom says, it was actually mentioned in the text). Menclub seems to exist primarily to ogle girls, but yes, there are other sections about cars and liquor, just like Playboy has some articles.

There are allegations that the private area of Menclub hides an escort or sugaring service, as private members must provide personal information, including their salary, in order to gain entry. None of this has been proven, however.

Someone cow-tipped and confronted Tom on Instagram. He has posted a pretty stunningly obtuse defense of his company's behavior, and subtly threatened the poster for making slanderous allegations against his company. All of the posts by this cowtipper have been deleted, and only Tom's defense now remains.

Here's the screenshot of his post alleging that the cowtipper is saying false things that will have "serious consequences": https://prettyuglylittleliar.net/uploads/monthly_2018_12/Screenshot_20181211-144526_(1)_-_Copy.jpg.dc1e3561a5bf5cd3aac7a1c6b4728ade.jpg
Whether or not cowtipping is condoned, the threat is pretty funny.

I think that's it for now.

No. 23252

I forgot to mention that there are other dodgy posts about Taylor left on the Menclub FB site. I don't think it's necessary to link them all. The comments are often sexual.

Taylor surely did not mind this type of attention, as her Menclub interview was promoted by her on her FB site with a wink kaomoji. She also had tweeted about her interviews and greetings / videos. These were deleted a year or two ago.

No. 23253

Here is the Chinese New Year video (it was originally for menclub): https://www.bilibili.com/video/av2022540?spm_id_from=333.338.b_5f5f626f667169.8

No. 23254

How do you know it was originally for menclub?

No. 23255

….. Kiki?

No. 23256

Great write up anon.
Just to let you, Beauty Exchange seems to predate Menclub by a several month. Her Beauty Exchange video was a Sailor Moon hair tutorial posted in September.

No. 23257

This one.

No. 23258

I can't prove it at this point. I'll try to find some trace of the link to menclub, though.
Really? I think I was pretty objective about what I found. People wanted a summary post, so I wrote it up.
Thanks anon, I suspected she worked for BE first and just didn't bother to confirm it.

No. 23259

Cows on this site always had a soft spot for Taylor, so any criticism or bad thing about her is always immediately shot down, no matter how bad it is … just not to burst the bubble of the innocent gullible little tylor.
For sure somebody will call me bitter for this comment, I’m not bitter I’m just disgusted by all this

No. 23260

>not knowing correct use of "cow"
>not saging worthless opinion
fuck off, newfag

No. 23261

Just FYI, what Tom meant was that the accusation they were making about him (posting indecent images of minors on his website) could have serious consequences FOR HIM if people believe it. He isn't threatening the poster. I know his English is bad but come on, let's not willfully misinterpret him because it fits our agenda.

No. 23262

I was thinking earlier about the escort thing.
Elbow earns at least $10k a month, based on the apparent price of his new house and the frivolous spending (whoops I just got a Switch and some gaming gear while I was looking for nose spray)

How does he earn money? Does he get a cut of each escort introduction, or is the membership price so high? Can anyone figure out any part of his business that clearly makes money other than that? Ad sales on menclub? The beauty business? I haven't done much research other than looking at the website, I would love if it wasn't mainly for escorting or potentially naked photoshoots of teen models in the "member section"

No. 23263


Btw not trying to imply anything illegal was going on, I'm sure everything is legal. It's just Shady to fund you and your wife's lifestyle off the back of other women/potential sugaring/unknown.

We need a rich Chinese man to join MenClub and report back.

No. 23264

However he earns money via MenClub, you're aware that he has other businesses and assets, right? And likely has stocks, probably invests in BTC, and other shit that funds their lifestyle.

Everyone's so hard up on MenClub like it's funding Taylor 100%.

No. 23265

I messed up the name of the 13yo bikini model. It's Jemima Robinson.
Oh, then i honestly misunderstood him. That post is basically written in dogespeak and probably represents his actual level of English. "u r doing a serious wrong and misleading accuse"

Also smooth of him to deny the presence of underage girls on his site. Just a couple examples:
Correct me if I am wrong, but I didn't see a dedicated section for underage girls. Just posts about underage girls and their nearly nude pictures sprinkled in the "Girls" section.

There are high school students profiled on there, as >>22899 and other posts here mentioned.

No. 23266

I think people find it amusing that wholesome Taylor who would never pose in a bikini (wrong) would be with a guy pushing this kind of content under the slogan 'be a better man.' She had 0 problem being associated with sleaze and winking about her single status when it benefited her. Maybe she could ask elbowsan to make his "girls" page more inclusive. omg what about trans models or squeal drag queens?! Or omg omg what about women old enough to vote

No. 23267

Exclusive MC video of 17 year old high schooler.

The video by itself isn't too creepy until you remember that most of their videos of women are of porn actresses and lingerie models, and the video title makes a point to say she's just 17 years old.

No. 23268

I think she is so materialistic she wouldn't care how he earned his money. I didn't think he was funding her until the last few weeks of content when it became $very $obvious the spending exceeded her Youtube income.


Pretty much what I was asking; if anyone had any leads on alternate sources. It's hard to match the wholesome taylor image up with that money source. Elbow seems like an OK guy so all signs point to it not being the 100% source of money, but it's still, eh. Uncomfortable.

No. 23269

As the CEO, does Elbow-san approve all of this content or is he an absent partner? How do we know he's the one OK-ing the underaged girls?

The CEO of my business doesn't have her hands in the day-to-day aspects of our company nor does she overlook everything.

No. 23270

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She wasn't underage. She's just one of the those nymphet bloggers.
We don't. Since he runs 3 or 4 businesses, it's likely he doesn't, but he should still take responsibility for it imo. Issue a statement. Stop posting girls younger than 18 and remove previously posted underage content. And most of all, address everything head on, because at the moment this is spiraling out of control with speculation.

No. 23271

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Once you have a decent amount of money, money makes money on its own through investments. He also owns many businesses (4 or 5? They did say how many in a video at some point) and he's apparently started and sold some too, so its not like he is relying solely on MensClub to fund their lifestyle. He has other more obvious money makers like a digital marketing company.

Pic is Tom's latest comments on the issue. For everyone wondering what the VIP sessions are about. Seems like its just a way for rich men with fragile male egos to meet up and do "manly" stuff.

Yes, the pictures of young girls are gross and creepy and clash strongly with Taylor's image, but y'all are wilding acting like Elbow is some kind of pedophile hooker kingpin.

No. 23272

Thanks for the summary anon. It makes things a lot clearer. Hopefully people keep screens so things are archived. They're probably on a deleting spree.

>VIP membership was just to meet up with other rich men doing things with men
>have an open mind
>might cross the line

Yeah. Totally what other rich men are looking for when they landed on a website with such innocent content.

No. 23273

To be fair, he's a shrewd businessman, not an idiot. He's not going to admit if escorts or any kind of legal or illegal salacious content is involved in the paid section. Although he didn't actually deny anything if you carefully read his response.

While the escorts are just speculation, we know he doesn't think there's anything wrong with the underage content on MC by his response to >>23239

The girls section was part of MC since it's inception ( >>23251 ), so it was always meant to be a big feature of the website. He also admitted to seeking out Taylor for work, so he was actively involved in the content of his websites for at least some time. He was also attracted to dolly Taylor and she dressed and acted like a little girl for the MC work he gave her.

No. 23274

Wow. Google Translate is really something else.

Title: Look Only, Don't Touch (essentially See See No Touch), 13 Year Old Model Jemima Robinson

>Although 2005 is thirteen years ago, I'm sure everyone remembers what they were doing then: those born after the 70s supposedly working towards their careers, 80s-90s probably still in school, as for the millennials? Half of them in diapers and the other half weren't even made yet. And as for the model we are introducing today, she was just born!

>That's right, this beauty that looks to be 18-19 years old is actually Jemima Robinson from Australia. She was born in 2005, making her only 13 years old this year. Although she cannot enter arcades yet, she is an established swimwear model. Although you can't say much about her figure (she's only 13, what did you expect), but she is beautiful and is has good body proportions, which is still pleasing to the eye.
>Back then, when 15-year-old model Li Yun took swimwear photos, they took it to the courts, but now 13-year-old Jemima Robinson takes swimwear photos and there is nothing to it. Is it due to cultural differences, the times, or just the people?

Sorry, noticed some grammatical errors and tried to fix them.

No. 23275

gravure has been going on in Japan since forever, it's socially acceptable and even goes into weekly manga for kids. focus on the escort shit but having sexy girls isnt a crime. might as well chase down shonen jump for doing similar

No. 23276

I think moving back to Canada has been good for her. She seems to be thriving so much more

No. 23277

I don't get why you would need a vip section for something like car gathering and wine tasting. Since this section is for super wealthy men, they would already have those things at their finger tips?
A vip section with no description of what it would be for someone to sign up is super suspicious. A normal vip section would advertise what it includes, wouldn't it?
I'm surprised he has even replied to these comments, honestly. Great milk. It was a mistake for Taylor to push him to get social media.

No. 23278

I don't think the idea is that it's for "super wealthy" men, just anyone who can afford it for which there is obviously an arbitrary cut off number
But it makes it sound more exclusive and desirable to require you to submit your income. It then seems like you'll be hobknobbing with the elite (instead of guys like you with a little extra cash). The same is true for why the actual activities aren't listed in the description. Mystery breeds interest and again makes it seem like a super elite secret society.
Good marketing tbh.

No. 23279

Sorry. I meant
isn't an arbitrary cut off number.

No. 23280

This form works exactly like any other gateway to sex services. Asking for income, what they're looking for, and offering discretion and privacy in return.

>$10k a month
North of 50k.

No. 23281

I don't keep up to date with taylor, but will Rosie be coming to Canada or did they leave her behind ?

No. 23282

they left her in HK and won't be flying with her until they decide to live in a certain country, cuz they'll be mostly switching between Canada and HK every now and then until they have kids

No. 23283

It's almost certainly an escort service for anyone who can afford more than a street prostitute. There's probably some sort of forum and/or directory attached to it, but I doubt it's much more than a run-of-the-mill escort service. At most it might look something like this:


No. 23284

I don't think he's just doing it for Taylor anymore if he's the one running the Elbow san IG. He updates too frequently, even more than Taylor. He's kind of desperate for attention for someone of his status.

No. 23285

I wonder if he is looking for more """models""" for his site. Instagram is full of such models, on constant paid-for "vacations" with pages of bootyshots in bikinis.
It's interesting he is so public on Instagram but not on video/Youtube. Maybe because it's in English he doesn't think it identifies him to people from Hong Kong/China?

Agreed, I think that is quite blatant. Men aren't filling out forms like these to go to wine-tasting sessions.

No. 23286

pull found out that ewsan removed the under 18 section on mc but the pages including the 13 yo model and such are still accessible.

No. 23287

pull found out that ewsan removed the under 18 section on mc but the pages including the 13 yo model and such are still accessible.

No. 23288

pull found out that ewsan removed the under 18 section on mc but the pages including the 13 yo model and such are still accessible.

No. 23289

Please sage your autism.

No. 23290

>Maybe because it's in English he doesn't think it identifies him to people from Hong Kong/China?
Y'know what they speak in HK? English is one of two official languages.

No. 23291

I know taylovers are going to come at me but who would be comfortable with their partner running an escort site but someone who is up for endless shopping, free housing, designer clothes, trips, etc? That speaks volumes about Taylor.

No. 23292

This is the exact thing playing on my mind about this. All those cute clothing hauls, ikea shopping trips, international trips = paid for by what?

I thought this link was really great and I advise people read it. They even refer to the prostitution ring as a "men's club"

No. 23293

she doesn't buy that much designer shit though. If you listen to what she says she's wearing, it's all Zara, Topshop, etc. Like cheap shit. I wish she'd pay more for something and then just keep wearing it.

Do you know what a men's club is? Like of course they called it a men's club. Of course Tom's page is call men's club. Doesn't mean shit.
American politics are a men's club, doesn't mean there's escorting… oh wait.

No. 23294

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>cheap shit

True that she buys cheap but extremely often. All those "small" purchases add up.

No. 23295


I never understood her fuck ton of small purchases of random clothing. She almost always wore the same jeans and rather bland looking tops. It never made sense to me why she even bothered buying new stuff she was never going to wear in the first place. Also, if she did wear it was generally only once. Her more expensive stuff tends to be more her accessories ( ie : bags, sunglasses, jewellery, makeup ), which are mostly purchased gifts from her husband.

She posted on IG story a picture of a survey with one of the questions being something along the lines of "who spends/shops the most" and it was marked as "Taylor". She's probably happy to be married now and have joint banking and finances. ( more money to spend and a husband that probably doesn't care because it hardly puts a dent in his pocket )

No. 23296

Her whole family agreed that Tom is the one who spends the most, and honestly seeing that he just casually bought a Nintendo Switch, I can see that.
I still don't see what is the problem with her spending habits, she clearly has the income for it and she's not flaunting it so what really is the problem here? Should she really just leave her money in her bank account?

No. 23297

I doubt a CEO would be the one searching for new models for anything, there are other employees who do that. He has many other businesses too, so he would probably be too busy? Maybe he just likes to post on instagram and be a part of Taylors thing, and he likes the attention and interaction?

The hate boner is too strong I guess. The only "problem" I have is that I wish she would buy more ethical pieces and not from sweat shop stores, since she does have the money, but that is just a small nitpick. It would be great if she would influence her younger viewers to start shopping ethically and to stray away from consumerism, but I doubt it would be happening soon, since she seems to love shopping, but I have hope!

No. 23298

>I wish she would buy more ethical pieces and not from sweat shop stores
Oh, definetly agree with that. I think she is somewhat trying to do that too, she showed some smaller stores in the vlog with her childhood friend so maybe she will start doing that but her effort does seem halfhearted ngl.

No. 23299

As for that, I honestly think we are just buying what she shows on camera.
On vlogs she likes to sort of pass this image of "accessible" by showing her pimps, and having a more bland wardrobe, wearing the same old jeans.
But we don't know, maybe she does wear expensive stuff, and even those constant smaller purchases.
If she's not entirely what we see on camera, why would that be?

No. 23300

Because she vlogs almost every day and we see what she's wearing? Do you have some conspiracy theory in which whenever the camera is off she changes into $10k outfits? Especially when we saw what she wore at her "wedding", bridal shower and birthday. If you are secretly wearing expensive brands, those are the kind of events where you'd wear them, but she doesn't. Taylor really likes fast fashion, which isn't great in itself.
Is her spending normal? Probably not. She always has so much stuff with the tags still on, she has a full closet just with Christmas sweaters. It is excessive, and I don't think it's becoming of someone who is 30 and should've found their style.
But it's not like she has couture dresses delivered to her doorstep every morning. She spends a lot, but not so much that she couldn't afford it.

Why do you just assume that they have a joint bank account? It's not like you get married and suddenly your finances are magically merged.

I think Taylor is annoying, but you guys are just reaching.

No. 23301

Sorry, I thought this thread auto-saged, but apparently not.

No. 23302

I have a few Chinese friends and acquaintances and apparently the man has to pay for everything, there are no split costs at dates. Most people are very conservative but of course not all. After marriage wife and husband would share expenses such as living costs, food etcetera because they fusion their belongings together. A lot of Chinese wifes even control the money their husbands are making but I think this applies to rather low income families because I really doubt that Tom would let Taylor manage their entire money. It's more plausible to me that she has probably a monthly allowance. Whatever… we will never know for sure.

No. 23303

is cableav also elbowsan's project? https://www.menclub.hk/thezone/18634

No. 23304

>Do you know what a men's club is? Like of course they called it a men's club. Of course Tom's page is call men's club. Doesn't mean shit.
I'm sorry to break it to you but that 'members only' section almost certainly involves escorting. This is how it's often done with higher-end escorting services. The magazine or website functions in part as a catalogue of escorts and there's a member's only forum for the men who fuck them.
>If she's not entirely what we see on camera, why would that be?
Because she's a fucking internet celebrity who's trying to maximize attention and profit. Everybody with a vlog is putting on an act; are zoomers really so fucking stupid that they can't understand that? Taylor R and whatever other random idiots you follow are not your friends and are not being sincere to their viewers. They're making it seem as such so that watching their videos triggers a 'this is my friend' response in mentally-stunted kids and teens, who then proceed to consume their boring ass content. Jesus Christ

No. 23305

Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't. I just wanted to point out that just because there's a prostitution ring that's characterised as a men's club doesn't mean that everything called men's club is a prostitution ring. It's called logic.

Of course she's not her most authentic self on YT, but you guys seem to be so disappointed with how boring she is that you have to make up stuff.
>Plastic surgery
>Actual escort
>She only married Tom so she can sustain her cheap shit shopping addiction

No. 23306

damn, she wears so expensive jewelry on a regular basis with no security around her. Tom just gave her a pair of $5000 earrings. I hope nothing bad happens to her, she just seem so careless wearing everything at once

No. 23307


>>Of course she's not her most authentic self on YT, but you guys seem to be so disappointed with how boring she is that you have to make up stuff.

So you are omniscient or what do you want to say with that message? Of course we don't know 100% if she has done this or that or whatever, but this is a gossip site where we gather information and make observations. Then we try to make connections.

>Plastic surgery

>Actual escort
>She only married Tom so she can sustain her cheap shit shopping addiction

Do you have any proof that these points aren't true? No? So you better start doing so or shut your mouth and don't act like you are god. Other anons did make great points why she had fillers in her cheeks and they make a lot of sense. There was an idiot anon trying to make some counterarguments but failed miserably because she literally repeated things parrot-fashion and thought nobody will notice it >>23196 >>744070 >>23127

And the fact that men's club has no transparency makes that site very very shady. If that site has nothing to hide, why wouldn't Tom make it a special club for rich men and their forum only available for their members? It could be literally everything from escorting to dating site to finding new pen pals. But since there are only rich men allowed and everything is exclusive and behind closed doors, I think the speculations are justified.

Only for the last point I'll give a pass because we have no evidence at all. It could be real love. It could be pure calculation too.

Oh and btw I think you sound a lot like that anon who ranted about Taylors privacy on Pull. They suspected you to a friend of hers or a family member. Just my thoughts.

No. 23308

Samefag I did a mistake

>And the fact that men's club has no transparency makes that site very very shady. If that site has nothing to hide, why would Tom make it a special club for rich men and their forum only available for their members?

Now it makes more sense

No. 23309

>Taylor R and whatever other random idiots you follow are not your friends and are not being sincere to their viewers

Agreed. She is always on max customer service mode, which is one reason why I watch. Everything super palatable, innocuous, friendly happy. I'm sure there are crazy expensive items hidden in closets, screaming fits, depression and illness but she just hops offline when those things happen. I never really get the "this is my friend" affect. It's more like playing a videogame and my character is Taylor? But I know the friend illusion is a common response to Youtubers.

I thought the beginning of the birthday moping video was a reference to PULL and lolcow, did anyone notice that? She talks about "lies" and how some rumours are partly true but she doesn't care. Maybe a ref to the MenClub reveal.

>The magazine or website functions in part as a catalogue of escorts

This is exactly how I see it. I think there's no denying that's what's happening. It'd be illogical to have a public site full of sexy girls and the private site is for…wine tasting?!

No. 23310

wow, i didnt recongize her at all. her face looks so slim in this video

No. 23311

Are you retarded? People need security to wear expensive jewelry?

No. 23312

she's in fucking canada too lol. anon makes her sound like she's on some trek in the middle east.

No. 23313

by this anon's logic, it's like everyone with a freakin' wedding ring over $5k needs security now LOL

No. 23314

Not that anon but I think what he meant with
>actual escort
was people tinfoiling that Taylor was an actual escort for the site before dating Tom, which honestly sounds more like a Kota sperg than actual speculation. Like, the site is an obvious escourting site but saying she was one is such a reach.
Also, I do think she married Ewbow ~out of love~ simply because if she really wanted she could catch bigger, more attractive fish in Asia and it's also not like their personalities don't match either.

No. 23315

Not that anon but I think what he meant with
>actual escort
was people tinfoiling that Taylor was an actual escort for the site before dating Tom, which honestly sounds more like a Kota sperg than actual speculation. Like, the site is an obvious escourting site but saying she was one is such a reach.
Also, I do think she married Ewbow ~out of love~ simply because if she really wanted she could catch bigger, more attractive fish in Asia and it's also not like their personalities don't match either.

No. 23316

Not that anon but I think what he meant with
>actual escort
was people tinfoiling that Taylor was an actual escort for the site before dating Tom, which honestly sounds more like a Kota sperg than actual speculation. Like, the site is an obvious escourting site but saying she was one is such a reach.
Also, I do think she married Ewbow ~out of love~ simply because if she really wanted she could catch bigger, more attractive fish in Asia and it's also not like their personalities don't match either.

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No. 23319

That's how you do business anon. It also strokes the rich man ego, since all the poor peasants can't afford to assess the site. I'm shocked how people are surprised by this and soon as dude said he liked Tay doll style, it already showed his taste.

No. 23320

I think he's doing it for a hobby, dude works all the time,he needs somewhere to blurt out his thoughts. Taylor blab your ears off so not her.

No. 23321

What a gross dude. Just read his replies on that comment thread and he’s actually a fucking pedo who sees nothing wrong with it. He sounds borderline MRA.

No. 23322

Stop cow tipping you stupid fucks

No. 23323

No. 23324


samefag better kiki

No. 23325

And thats like the only post I’ve ever made in this thread but ok.

No. 23326

is this an attempt to be relatable?

No. 23327

it's not really different to any other vlog she does.

No. 23328

He's deleted all related comments and his replies. I'm surprised he kept responding in the first place.

He's a big shot businessman and his hobby is showing off his bathtub and keyboard playing to little girls?

No. 23329

Sage your autism and stop cow tipping.

No. 23330

Screencap this stuff next time, I'm not gonna trawl through his insta. Also don't cow-tip

I can't believe how obvious it has become that he's the sugar daddy now, the way Taylor talks about money and handles the comments on the Voox sponsored video. And she hid whatever else was in the box which was suspicious.

No. 23331

Also please note the edited "song" where he repeats designer names while she models her new clothes.

She will lose fans if she keeps making it this obvious.

No. 23332

I'm not the cow tipper. I was responding to >>23317

No. 23333

I was responding to the cow-tipper.

No. 23334

I took a screenshot and posted it here but I’m not the one who made that comment on his ig. It could have been someone from pull.

No. 23335

I don't think she hid what was in the box, I thought she modeled them in the video?

I think we all know that Tom is super rich, but in the recent video of Taylor driving around her childhood home, she obviously lived in an affluent neighborhood. She comes from money as well. She's being pretty obvious about it now.

No. 23336

I totally agree. She is boring and has no personality although she tries to proof us wrong that she is sooo relatable and quirky. But it's seriously cringy and inauthentic. She tries so hard to make a viral video but fails every time. I think the last time she had success was a year ago with her flower eyebrows. She has 1 million subs and makes barely 100.000k views and it won't get better with time. She will lose more and more fans and views. But that doesn't matter because she's rich anyways.

No. 23337

Stop being paranoid anon.
Now that she's move back she'll get even more boring. Her vlogs with her family is a snooze fest.

No. 23338

She's not going to lose fans because she wears designer clothes. She's an aspirational kind of person for them, like "your cool friend who has money and an interesting life". You guys always fantasize about her crashing and burning over things her fans couldn't care less about.

No. 23339

It's not about designer clothes. Read the texts above again. It's her need to appear relatable as possible and hiding her wealth as opposed to be authentic. She can't wear designer clothes and be one of the peasants. That's our problem with her and she will lose a lot of fans because of her behaviour. There's nothing worse than an inauthentic and lying influencers. Nobody cares if she's rich, just look at Morphe's horse face Jaclynn Hill or racist Jeffree Star. They are beloved because they don't try to be what they aren't. They are filthy rich people with horrible personalities and they are not hiding it. At least both of them are entertaining as hell but Taylor is a snooze fest.

No. 23340

Yes exactly, we've gone from "model" Taylor who lived in Japan to Housewife Taylor who lives in Canada and is gonna have a baby. To me having a sugar daddy and being a housewife is not aspirational. >>23338
At least when she was a working model we could imagine she got her money from her actual work and not just being bankrolled by someone else.

Basically she needs a new job as a cover for all the spending, because currently being a bankrolled housewife and later, bankrolled mommy, is boring and not aspirational at all.

Most people who splash the cash have some sort of job (model, makeup business, whatever) so this is really required if we are gonna progress from this status.

No. 23341

It alwas seems like the money comes just from her dad. Her mom just works at a dental office or sth. Does anybody know what she got from her dad for her birthday?

No. 23342

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>basically she needs a new job as a cover for all her spending

No. She should own her shit and just be honest, and those that would still be bitching after she owns up to it are likely the ones that only bitch out of jealousy. However, at the moment anons are just annoyed at her pretending to be an "average" level income with no clue what wealth is. It's just as stupid as someone pretending to be ghetto despite growing up in the subs. Plus I'm pretty sure her youtube is making more money than her modelling career ever really did. I know that social blade isn't accurate, but it gives a rough estimate. At this point, I think we can say that her youtube is covering all her spending habits. Not like she's covering any of the big expenses house-wise.

Also, when she moved to Japan she has only had like 7-8 jobs in total for modelling when there. She hasn't done a whole lot of modelling since like late 2013. I will always cringe at anons saying her modelling could support her living and spending habits while in Japan. No. She also started the kawaii trend in late/mid-2012 which was probably when she started becoming pickier about jobs. Which is something she admitted to in a vlog, that she started refusing jobs that didn't fit her cutesy aesthetic.

No. 23343

In December she has obviously done Vlogmas, hence more videos and more views. Usually she uploads maybe 2-4 videos a month (with 4 being an absolute maximum) so her income would not be significant from Youtube. Most of the spending of the past month is most certainly covered by Tom.

No. 23344



Sure, the more expensive designer stuff would be on his credit card.(YLS bags, Chanel,5k earrings,ect) Taylor is usually buying basic bitch fast fashion though. I've seen her social blade for other months as well and it usually was 1.2-2mil views which is still decent. What do you think she spends her money on? Clearly, not any bills as it def wouldn't cover those lol but can cover her generic cheap clothing.

I've seen some Youtubers talk about 1mil = 5,000$ and wouldn't be surprised if that is roughly what she makes a month. That's 5k to freely spend a month. You have to also take into account that she has a shit ton of videos also collecting views. This also doesn't cover when she does small brand deals/ads. I will admit though that there is a likely chance that they have a bank account they share for home decor and daily living expenses. ( maybe to make her feel like she's contributing )

No. 23345


>>Yes exactly, we've gone from "model" Taylor who lived in Japan to Housewife Taylor who lives in Canada and is gonna have a baby. To me having a sugar daddy and being a housewife is not aspirational.

This. She built her audience on fake personas. First she was kawaii weeb Taylor, then the hip girl who lives in Japan but can't admit she's nearly 30, then 'girlboss' kek and now housewife in Canada and soon-to-be mother. Nothing wrong with that, bless her. But her time on YouTube is over if she doesn't decide to exploit her pregnancy and children. Mommy bloggers are popular and I could see her jumping on this bandwagon because she would do anything for money and success if you look at her past. She is plain, boring and has no personality and nobody will watch her videos because of her. Even clickbait and crazy video ideas can't save her ass. Just look at her views. Tom was the best decision she has ever made because it doesn't matter if she fails, she remains rich af.

No. 23346

$5,000 a month is a gross overestimation. According to research by Offenburg University, youtubers with average 1.4 million monthly views make less than $16,800 USD a year today. NYT also reported it was 1mil=$2,000 before tax and youtube's %45 cut four years go. The quality of ads, use of ad-blockers, etc also affects revenue.

Why ‘Success’ on YouTube Still Means a Life of Poverty: http://fortune.com/2018/02/27/youtube-success-poverty-wages/

Don't forget the money that needs to go into the video. It's unlikely she makes enough to even live frugally on her own. Also, fast fashion and cafe trips add up.

No. 23347

I really don’t know how to feel about Taylor after hearing about the whole MC scandal. I still want to believe she is a good person deep down, but her greed and desire to live this certain lifestyle has honestly ruined her image. She turns a complete blind eye to Tom’s disgusting methods of obtaining money. It’s more disturbing to me that she even got him a cake with the logo. It would have been one thing if she was just quiet about it, but the fact that she and him are both proudly flaunting it is extremely disturbing.

No. 23348

Please sage your blogpost.

No. 23349


Not only proudly displays logo on the cake and the car, but also she deletes all the comments related to it. She definitely heard of the whole 13 year old girl drama, and yet she never told him it’s freaking wrong. She was model herself, so she should know best.
I doubt her whole ‘I was innocent model, didn’t want to do bikini/underwear shots’ image was even true. I know she wouldn’t bother to look at him if he wasn’t rich so I’m pretty sure her ‘career’ was through his bed.
If you’re from Hong Kong she wasn’t as successful as she wants everyone to think, I know plenty of Eastern European models in HK and they have much larger portfolio and better offers than her. The biggest thing I could remember her from was a Nokia commercial, that’s it.
The rest was just normal shots to newspapers etc. - without his help her career would fade away, sleeping with this disgusting old man was the best decision of her life and helped her in her life. You think why for so many years she catered to his favorite Lolita style? Why she made herself look like a teen? Because that’s what he likes, clearly he is fine with young girls next to porn stars on his website.

She is not as nice and innocent as she wants us to believe, I will not look at her the same way as I did before. I knew their relationship was bit sketchy but I would never think she could know how disturbing he is and still marry him. It only shows her true colors.

No. 23350

This summarizes my current feelings about it all too, thanks anons.

No. 23351

Have she always been saying "eh" in her videos? Or did she just start after moving back to Canada?

No. 23352

I still watch her videos occasionally but she will lose any interest she has for me (and most of her current audience I think) if she becomes a mommy blogger. I originally watched her because she was pretty and I liked somewhat being able to live vicariusly through her, and she wasn't completely out of touch with reality like Pixielocks, for example. If she just leaned into that (the people living vicariously through her thing), she'd be fine. There are tons of people who love to watch rich people doing rich people things because they can't do them. But she does this faux relatable thing which just…doesn't work and is so cringy and ruins any appeal she might have.

No. 23353

Exactly~ I never understood people who want her to act more relatable. She obviously has no clue how to. And Honestly, I actually would rather she use her money and show different parts of the world/restaurants/fashion/etc than the whole just DIY posts and cringe content. Like you said, it’s nice to see another view of life that most of us can’t do on the daily like she can. Since she was a model, I never understood why she didn’t dive more into showing different fashion from Japan/China (and I don’t mean her DIYs…) I hate her fast fashion. She looks like she’s just striving to be any girl from Instagram.

No. 23354

Taylor does not, and has never, known who she is. She just hops on whatever flavor of the month is popular at the moment, hoping she’ll go viral. It always backfires and makes her look incredibly cringy though. I unsubbed from her yesterday after being a long time viewer. Her faux-relatable act is getting really tired, and I’m tired of her stupid clickbait gimmicks. The Men’s Club “scandal” whatever you want to call it was the cherry on top though. I basically have zero respect for her now, and she’s strayed so far from the content I originally loved her for and followed for. I also could give a fuck less about her upcoming pregnancy/baby bullshit. She’s just going to become an obnoxious mommy blogger/trophy housewife and that’s all she’s ever going to be. She seems to think that 30 is so old and that now’s the time to settle down and grow up, when it’s the complete opposite. It really shows in her content though, she has completely 100% given up. She should prepare herself to lose a giant chunk of her subscriber base when she gets pregnant.

Sage for no one cares and blogpost

No. 23355

That doesn't factor in sponsorships though. They can sometimes be thousands of dollars.

No. 23356


Shit, it's that bad? So she really isn't affording much of anything besides her phone bill and a couple parcels. I'm almost wondering now if she has been getting an allowance from Tom.


How often is that even? It feels like she doesn't really get a whole lot of sponsorships.

No. 23357

If I remember right, she had one earlier this month & didn't even mark it as a sponsored video like she is required to, so I wouldn't be surprised if she has avoided mentioning other sponsors.

That said, I doubt she is making enough to support herself. Maybe when she was also modeling, but no way is she now. Tom likely pays for almost everything.

No. 23358

Agreed, I have no idea why she thinks she's washed up and ancient now at 30- there's plenty of working models, she could start a business, mentor people, make the website she's been saying she'll make for a year now. She's not unintelligent, she can write, edit, present, and model, and probably more (SEO/web advertising/content promotion)

But she just wants to have a baby or two and be a mommy vlogger. I think she feels left out from her sisters & friends but she'll look back at 40 and wish she didn't throw in the towel this quick.

No. 23359

She has every right to be a rich wife and mommy, if that's what her heart desires. Each their own. But at the same time she wants us to believe that's she's relatable AND a savvy business woman and learning from Tom how to built a successful business kek. The reality looks different though. She always talks about it but does nothing. I have the feeling that the age thing is just an excuse to do nothing at all. 'Oh I am a 30 year old woman, sooo old now, I should have kids, omg my life is over!1!' There are a lot of women who hit a certain age and behave completely different. Could be a midlife crisis. Or like you said, she's looking at her friends and sisters who already have a family.

No. 23360

Her average views per video is 100K-200K and she doesn't upload regularly. She can't charge that much, especially for small sponsors and Beauty Exchange & MC were responsible for many of her sponsored videos in the past. Then subtract tax and other fees/deductions.

Social Blade says Taylor lost over 1,000 subscribers on Dec 14. What happened? Since then, she's gained almost 6,000 subscribers.

No. 23361

youtube purged a lot of fake accounts recently, that could be why.

That was also the day she posted the tattoo video though, so maybe the clickbait pissed a lot of people off.

No. 23362

she just started it, and i find it really distracting.

No. 23363

I sometimes wonder if Taylor would have felt intimidated by Peachmilky had they been in Tokyo around the same time since they have so many mutual friends. Peach caters towards older men by cosplaying/doing the whole doll thing on Twitch/Patronage for cash. Fits right up Elbow-san’s alley.

No. 23364

I don't think so, at least not more than any other woman feels intimidated by other women. They seem to really love and appreciate each other (not that it always prevents men from cheating, but at least it often makes them not cheat with random thots).

No. 23365

I don’t think he would blatantly cheat on her, but I wonder if he would have approached her for working opportunities on MC similar to how he plastered Taylor on the site when she was in her doll phase. He comes off as a shady character and I think it was somewhat telling how Taylor kept worrying he would cheat on her in the past.

No. 23366

An average of 100-200k is generous when almost half of her vlogmas videos are sitting below 100k

No. 23367


A bunch of these recent posts read like Kiki talking to herself, don’t they?

No. 23368


They're not angry enough to be Kiki. If they were screeching about her being a hoe sucking that rich dick for money, then yes it would be Kiki sounding.


I haven't watched any of her vlogs in quite some time, are they really doing that bad ?

No. 23369

I’m one of those and although that would be pretty hilarious- not everyone here is a TayTay stan, anon. I used to be, but her true colors are showing and now I’m just telling it like i see it.

No. 23370

Didn't know my post reads like Kiki. I guess I have to improve my language skills

If you go back to sperg chan's thread, you'll see that she sometimes wrote pretty ordinary posts which I've never guessed to be Kiki. Of course there were some very hateful ones in between but it could be possible that she's writing with us here right now and flying under the radar. Some comments here which suggest Taylor was an escort/prostitute and Tom a pedo and goes regularly to prostitutes are suspicious though and a complete reach.

No. 23371

I actually think she's kind of stupid, based on the way she speaks and sometimes has to look up what (english) words mean in her videos. But she absolutely could still be working as a model, she's aged well and 30 isn't even old. The types of jobs she gets might change but you don't automatically lose your value as a model once you turn 30. In fact i think she looks much better now than during her dolly phase, and she's more marketable becausee she isn't insisting on wearing circle lenses or doing her own makeup to keep up the image. She has a more mainstream look now and there's no reason why she wouldn't get jobs. She's just lazy.

No. 23372

I can definitely see her having some kind of mid life crisis at 40 like Bernice Burgos. Only because she has never truly been herself, or found her passion in life. Taylor could have easily made it as a model and had major sucess with her looks if she tried or had a passion for it. But she's lazy af and just took the easy way out in the form of sugarbaby turned wife. She even lived in JP&HK but gave up learning Japanese and didnt even attempt Chinese. Her YT content has gone downhill and she hasn't put much effort into that for awhile. The only thing she put effort into is Ew san thats it. It's just amazing how lazy she is given all those opportunities she's had.

No. 23373

Do you know how many years Taylor has lived in Honk Kong and Japan?
People are always saying Kota is lazy af which she certainly is but regarding language skills Kota is miles ahead of Taylor. If I was Taylor, I would be ashamed of my inability of speaking Chinese. I don't know if she's just lazy or stupid but she certainly doesn't value the opportunities which were given to her. She has a very privileged mindset if she really thinks she doesn't need to learn Chinese now that her second residence is in Hong Kong and her husband is Chinese. Tom had to learn English in order to communicate with her although she was living in Hong Kong.
Now I sound like Kiki for real kek

No. 23374


Instead of learning any of the languages to the places she lived she just hired a translator to teach her to say a couple sentences for videos. ( And then claim she could speak the language at the time ) I'll never understand why she won't attempt to learn any Chinese though. Her communication with Tom seems so limited, I just imagine their conversations are of like that of cave people. " No" "yes" "Food" "BABE" "Hunger" "Sex" "Sleeep" ( I'm being over exaggerative but he does seem to struggle a lot with finding the words to respond )

When she does have a child I think she is going to really struggle with Youtube. Hard to edit for 6 hours straight or vlog every second. I highly doubt Tom will be giving up much work hours due to being the one that is the main income. Plus having an infant makes it hard to do lengthy DIYs or hours of shopping. I could also see her having a meltdown if her body doesn't completely snap back into shape.

No. 23375

So many doors could have opened for her alone just learning Chinese&Japanese. She could have found a good job. But nope that was too hard. Making her own money and such. Yet spend years dressing like an underaged girl to keep the interest of a creepy old guy. Priorities.

No. 23376

So many doors could have opened for her alone just learning Chinese&Japanese. She could have found a good job. But nope that was too hard. Making her own money and such. Yet spend years dressing like an underaged girl to keep the interest of a creepy old guy. Priorities.

No. 23377

Her oldest sister is overweight and so is their mom. Her youngest siblings go after their dad who is rather slim. Taylor will have a hard time considering her past as a child with being a little bit overweight. I could imagine her freaking out because she's already making a big deal about being 30. Girl has issues.

No. 23378

Sage your autism please.

No. 23379

Has anyone sent any of this into a gossip or commentary youtuber? I can't help but think "husband of youtuber with young female audience owns website exploiting young girls" would be a headline worth grabbing.

I dunno, I don't want anyone to attack Taylor, but I feel like this needs to get out to a wider audience than just lolcow and PULL. :/

No. 23380

Fuck off newfag.

No. 23381


damn bruh, @me at least

No. 23382

she was never overweight. she was a child who hadn't yet hit puberty yet.

No. 23383

Half of these are saged you idiot

No. 23384

This seems like a witch hunt. It's ok to write your thoughts here on lolcow but Taylor isn't expose-worthy imo. She's like any other fame and money hungry women. We don't know if she's okay with his behaviour, maybe Tom and her are fighting over it, who knows. The cake with the MC logo and the fact that she married him speaks against her on the other hand. Idk. Tom is maybe expose-worthy but you need more proof. Saying in a video that he is a pedo or whatever is defamation. You can only argue that he doesn't care about the rights of children and exploiting them for his gain. And all the cowtipping is seriously dumb and unnecessary.

She said that in a video. Do you think I made this up? There are also some childhood pics she showed where you can see it's not only a little bit chub.

No. 23385

This whole thread is autism, especially your posts.

No. 23386

She's going to 1000% get a nanny, she seems very happy with Natalie so someone like that. Tom would pay, happy taylor, nothing changes. Also I question whether she really does all her editing, I suspect she outsources some of it, like with vlogmas. She was very busy each day, there wasn't really enough time to edit every video.

No. 23387

Doubt it given how crappy it is. Besides she released every video super late this year. Editing is one of things that I believe she does because of the lack of quality.

No. 23388


I can't see her hiring a full-time nanny. Also, I feel like her fans that are right up her ass would rip her a new one for hiring a nanny just so she can live carefree. She's in the public eye and films everything, in other words, people will constantly be looking for things to judge her for. Anyways, I can't see Taylor being that self-absorbed and vain that even her own child comes second to shopping and beauty. She'll probably return the era where she never left her house and was just mopping about. Besides, isn't her regular upload rate like once or twice a week?


It's actually possible knowing all the other retarded things she's hired people to do for her. Her assistant is shit and even shittier at filming, which leads me to believe she probably would hire a shitty editor for cheap.

No. 23389

It depends imo. If she wants to continue her carefree life with a child, then she will absolutely hire a nanny. But if she decides to go the mommy blogger route, she won't hire a nanny because that's inauthentic. She will most definitely hire a household help because she is rather messy and with a child the whole house is gonna be a huge stinky diapers dump.

No. 23390

Despite the fact they like eachother and all that stuff, do you guys think Tom eventually cheats on Taylor with this type of "cute, childish" girls?
It's sort of common for business men to be around women who attends events or even after business meetings with the purpose to entertain (not aways involve sex).

No. 23391


Would Taylor even care?

She is guaranteed money and is slowly building her fame. The number of women married to wealthy womanizers never really seem to care about love but rather just the cash and vanity.

To my fellow anons, because I'm curious about others opinions. Can you eventually look past someone's ugly appearance and learn to love them? Including the lack of communication as well. Also, as I recall from old vlogs he's gone for long periods of time due to business.

No. 23392


If I'm not physically attracted to someone, I'm not physically attracted to them. No amount of money, emotion connection, or romcom cliche will change that, so no I couldn't be in a relationship with them.

But hey, maybe I'm just shallow lol

No. 23393


Don't think so. Sexual attraction is just as important in a healthy relationship. I'm wiling to guess Taylor is asexual and does "the deed" with Elbow face just to appease him.

No. 23394

Honestly I never take appearance into account. Like sure, i'm vain when it comes to myself, i'm into cosmetics, fashion etc but when it comes to a partner, my criteria is solely based on my mental and emotional connection to that person, which obviously depends on their personality traits, character, values etc. For me, love and relationships is a mental thing, I don't really think about the physical aspects and I seldom find men "physically attractive" (because my attraction is based on other things so "good looks" don't tend to catch my attention).

I can't tell from her videos how shallow and superficial Taylor truly is. Like obviously she seems extremely privileged and that might suggest that she has some gold-digging tendencies ingrained in her, but idk her husband is kinda endearing and I could see him being a good choice for a life partner considering he's hardworking, well-travelled, experienced in industry and in his personal life (so he can probably manage his relationships well). These are definitely the types of things that would be important in a husband, especially if I was older/Taylor's age.

No. 23395

Maybe my opinion is different because I'm very non-sexual (i hate using tumblr terms like "ace" or "demisexual" or whatever but yeah, i just don't really care about sex at all) so I could see myself falling in love with someone without physical attraction. But i don't think most people would feel that way.

No. 23396

I don't think she is asexual, she makes an innuendo nearly every video. She has yellow fever which may help, but if you can overlook bikini pics of teenagers on your husband's website you can probably overlook an age gap. He isn't ugly at all, just normal looking. I'm more concerned about their level of communication, it can't be a very deep relationship unless he sends a lot of texts/emails/non-verbal, because their verbal communication is pish

No. 23397


>Can you eventually look past someone's ugly appearance and learn to love them?

I tried 2 times and failed 2 times. I wasn't sexually attracted to my last boyfriends at all but they had 'good characters'. So I didn't want to be superficial and gave them a chance. But everytime I sensed a slightly negative thing about them like them being messy or farting in front me in full blast, I felt disgusted and I asked myself: why am I together with him? If I was attracted to the guy, I wouldn't mind at all and would just laugh about it. Even if he was rich af, I couldn't pretend to be attracted to him. I'm not that desperate.

So in my opinion you can't learn to love somebody you aren't attracted to because their minor flaws will always appear huge to you.(Blogposting)

No. 23398

All the anons here are just salty that all this milk about Taylor , didn’t come from kota… all this years and even now they are still beating a dead horse … all the things they speculated about Kota came true from Taylors side and it’s just too hard for anons to accept and it’s pretty funny how they sperg every time this gets pointed out

No. 23399

Can you fucking sage your shit Kaka? Nobody is interested in your opinion you balding sack of flesh

No. 23400

Definitely a combination of being lazy af, dumb (in her last vlogmas video she couldn't even come up with the word "automatic" on her own when describing an automatic snowglobe, oh and remember WW3?) and having the convinience of being in the position of hiring a translator/assistant

No. 23401

If you truly think that Kota hasn't fucked someone for jobs at this point, I don't know what to say. It's the only explanation for her career regardless of what Taylor has or hasn't done.
She would have been back home years ago otherwise, probably after her first failed six months.
And hey at least Taylor had a good 6-7 years of model work before she met Tom. And was originally able to get signed without having to catfish.
She had some kind of bizarre quarter life crisis when she got to her mid twenties and was infected by the kawaii plague but before that she was just a normal pretty model.

No. 23402

I didn’t say Kota didn’t do those thing , but if even 5% of what we know about Taylor came to light about Kota we wouldn’t see the end of it .. for he most part Kota also is almost not posting anything anymore and tylor is very active … what I’m trying to say it’s since everybody is salty that is not Kota who was found out , they won’t allow any discussion about tylor.
Even defending they’re disgusting website.

No. 23403

Who is defending that website?
Also please type sage in the email field, it stops the thread from being bumped with your non-milk

No. 23404

People aren't shutting down conversation about Taylor because they are salty about Kota. It's just annoying because newfags keep coming in and bumping the thread with no milk. If Taylor for example, makes a video addressing MC that is milk. Or if she posts a new video, picture, inst-story. If she gets pregnant. Milk.
People claiming that she's an escort, or writing long spergy paragraphs about how she's not real; That's not milk.
Right now what we have is a lot of conjecture, blown up into the most sensationalistic extremes by a-logging morons. Which is all welcome when it's saged.
Your post for example should be saged because it's just you whining about shit and contributes nothing new or interesting to this thread.

No. 23405

I kind of see your point. For sure we wouldn't see the end of it cause kota has no one defending her. What I noticed before the whole MC thing came out is that anons speculated a lot about kota but when the same was done about Taylor (when some anons said that probably Taylor was superficial and liked the money) a lot of anons came to defend her.

No. 23406

Wtf are you talking about? There are constantly people defending Kota and shitting up that thread. Look right now. There is a massive post defending her most recent lukewarm efforts.
For fucks sake there were posts defending her when she lied about having cancer last year.
Both Kota and Taylor have their defenders.

No. 23407

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>I don't want anyone to attack Taylor

No. 23408

An interesting video from MC to keep you entertained this new year http://nicoco.net/sm33414807

No. 23409

Why do I feel like the phrase "both kota and Taylor come here to defend themselves" coukd also be true? We alreasy know both Kiki and Dakota come here to stan themselves and each other and to keep tabs on Taylor. Plus, it's not impossible that Taylor comes here too, she's had threads on the site as long as kota has.

No. 23410

Wishful thinking anon. Taylor has never been shown to have those kind of tendencies. She seems to prefer burying her head in the sand instead of confronting her problems. Even on her own social media she ignores things until she absolutely can't avoid addressing them.
Kota and Kaka are much more overtly confrontational. And tbh just much nastier personality wise.

No. 23411

Girl pictures and videos in that men's club webpage are just some normal gravure idols, what you can see everywhere in Japan, Korea & China. Gravure images can look quite shady to western eyes, because of their young models, but it's totally legit business in that part of the world.

I copypasted this definition from wikipedia:

"Gravure idols appear in a wide range of photography styles and genres. Their photos are largely aimed at male audiences with poses or activities intended to be provocative or suggestive, generally accentuated by an air of playfulness and innocence rather than aggressive sexuality. Although gravure idols may sometimes wear clothing that exposes most of their body, they seldom appear fully nude.
Gravure idols may be as young as pre-teen age up to early thirties. In addition to appearing in mainstream magazines, gravure idols often release their own professional photobooks and DVDs for their fans. Many popular female idols in Japan launched their careers by starting out as gravure idols."

No. 23412

so… pedo pin-up. it looks sketchy because it is.

No. 23413

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It's common knowledge that Japan, China and Korea are somewhat kinkier on sexual matters than western countries.

No. 23414


Funny thing about that. It's actually 18 and a 26 year old woman was just arrested for having a "sleepover" with a 16-year old.

And if you think it isn't shady in Asian eyes just because it's legal, I have a bridge to sell you…

No. 23415

Not to mention that the gravure idol in that video is 25.

No. 23416

just because you just figured out gravure is a thing because its related to taylor now youre upset? get your moralfagging out of here.

gravure makes girls money and often launches their careers, see akb48

No. 23417

You can go fuck yourself if you think just because something is legal means it’s Alright morally. Yeah you can buy photo books of 5 year olds in bikinis taking baths and that’s “legal” possession of child porn was legal in Jpn until a few years ago. Neither of these are ok. Stop being a gross weeb. Some of us actually detest this stuff and fight against it.

>>23413 you must be truly pathetic to believe random sexpat pandering memes. Have fun on your trip to Thailand. Scrot

No. 23418

Nta but, is a 20 something in a bikini worth this much hyperventilating?

No. 23419

An adult who LOOKS young isn't morally bad and you're reaching to say its related to Taylor. Lolcow isn't your personal soapbox. Fuck off.

No. 23420

>gravure makes girls money and often launches their careers
cool motive, still pedo pin-up

and you fuck off. I don't give a shit about someone who looks like PULL would obsess over. You retards keep bumping the thread.

No. 23421

Well no it's not "pedo" unless they are prepubescent. I wish that morons like you would stop throwing that term around so casually. It diminishes the significance of the actual term when you use it like that for things that are objectively not "pedo".
So if you like "ephebo" pinup.

No. 23422

Why do you act like some child savior lmao

More often than not these girls want to do gravure so why are you trying to be full on sjw and ‘save them’ by trying to harpoon some guy who isn’t even the head of the gravure industry? Sounds like you have a white savior complex tbh

No. 23423

You know who gives a shit about the difference between pedophilia and ephebophilia? Pedophiles. Regular people don't want to fuck non-adults at all.

No. 23424

Well I was deliberately being pedantic to annoy you anon because you are acting so ridiculous about this. The video posted was of a grown ass woman in normal bikini. All of the women in that section seem to be of age. The anon who originally posted the video as a gotcha clearly thought they were revealing something shady. But they weren't.

No. 23425

>You know who gives a shit about the difference between pedophilia and ephebophilia? Pedophiles.

and you know, people who understand that small children can't even feel sexual arousal and can die from rape but okay.

No. 23426

>Regular people don't want to fuck non-adults at all.

Oh honey I’m so sorry reality is fucked

No. 23427

The thread is in auto-sage because of frothing autists like yourself sweetie

No. 23428

lol it hasn't been in auto-sage for a month
Maybe don't try to patronize when it makes you look like said retard, sweetie.

No. 23429

So what other google translate milk do you have or are you just going to bitch about models I’m bikinis

No. 23430

@everyone above.

Cease the sperging, I'm sure Taylor will post something soon and you can actually talk about the thread topic. She posted a few frantic-looking gym clips on Instagram stories today.

And sage your shit

No. 23431

Nope, not a gotcha. It's a funny contrast to Elbow's motivational q&a's and comments about how tasteful his work is and some of these risque videos have been deleted from his channel and saved elsewhere. Never claimed it was an under-18 video because I thought it was obvious it wasn't, and that's why it was sagged. Then someone dropped in to explain "gravure" for the 100th time for whatever reason, which triggered >>23412, who triggered… Anyway, sorry guys.

No. 23432

Can anyone who knows Chinese please translate

No. 23433

Can anyone who knows Chinese please translate

No. 23434

But that's the thing it's not risque at all. I've seen more risque things on daytime tv. It's also still up on the official youtube channel along with rest of those videos, so your other point about deleting things is just wrong.
Also not sure how this is a contrast. Motivated business-people can still do sleazy things. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

No. 23435

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just a couple interesting old pics I found

No. 23436

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No. 23437

her fucking posture is terrible

No. 23438

>her fucking posture is terrible

She's slouching to create a more interesting shape and contrast the other model she's with. It's deliberate. It's what the photographer asked her to do. Given the brands involved, this looks like editorial and slouching is more high fashion.

No. 23439

You couldn’t reach more. It’s a high fashion pose

No. 23440

iT's HiGh FaShuN
who cares? it looks fucking terrible to me. The other girl looks more relaxed and pulls it off way better. Fucking taytay stans are insufferable.

No. 23441

The other girl was clearly instructed to do a different kind of pose. Contrast for visual interest. Tay is slouching forward. The other girl is leaning back.
The photographer/art director decides what they want and the models execute it. It's not their decision.
How is it stanning to point out the logistics of a fucking photoshoot?
You sound like a massive sperg.

No. 23442

I don't know which of your FOUR posts I should reply to. The other girl is also doing the same pose in the first picture but taylor looks like she has a buffalo hump tf

No. 23443

The site fucked up you sperg. I deleted the extras. You still don't seem to know how an editorial shoot works.
>The other girl is also doing the same pose in the first picture but taylor looks like she has a buffalo hump tf
And apparently you're blind.

No. 23444

It's like anon's never seen a makeup ad or a magazine or anything involving a model ever.

No. 23445

I have and taylor's posture is not pleasant to me. what are you going to do? sue me cause I don't like it? pussy lickers

No. 23446

>what are you going to do? sue me cause I don't like it?
No. You're entitled to not like it. I don't particularly like it myself. But it's what the photographer/art director wanted.
>pussy lickers
And now you just sound like Kaka.

No. 23447

I'm not kaka for sure and I wasn't referring to the poses but her posture.

No. 23448

Bless your heart.

No. 23449


Anons are always complaing about Kota's bad posture and suddenly you come here saying that Taylor has a ~BaD PoSTurE. Taylor was instructed to do this. She has generally a very good posture and a modelly aura which Kota only can dream of. Oh that pussy licker thing you have 100% from the Kota thread too. There was an anon who was glorifying Kota a few days ago and she was called a pussy licker kek.

No. 23450

glorifying kota like you're glorifying taylor? she definitely has a bad posture for not doing anything all day.

No. 23451

You are too stupid to exist.
No one glorifying Taylor. We are trying to explain that as a working model (which she was at the time that she did this shoot because it's old) she doesn't get to decide how she poses. And considering that posing is a slouch it's related to her posture. You can't slouch and have "good posture". They are polar opposites. You can say that she has bad posture in her everyday life and I'd agree, but that's not applicable in an editorial photoshoot where she's been instructed to slouch with a concave back.

No. 23452

we get it. You're smart. I think the first picture, the one at the right looks bad and not "high fashion" and I thought her bad posture made it look bad. That's what I think. I hope I'm clear enough now. If not whatever seriously.

No. 23453

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For love of God, can someone teach this girl how to hold chopsticks? 10 years in Asia, and she hasn’t learn any new language nor even how to hold chopsticks properly.

No. 23454

https://littlefakedolls.tumblr.com/ does this happen to be your blog? The saltiness is real

No. 23455

Me and the other anon are two different people, I just can’t stand her trying to be an ‘expert’ and introducing people on her channel with Asian culture (“OMG I love learning new stuff and experience other cultures”) but irl she’s a poser, just how she always was.(pathetic nitpick)

No. 23456

Nah the anon who posted >>23437 is a Kota stan obviously. Read the posts below and you'll see. And the blog is about exposing people like Kota, so they can't be the same people at all.

No. 23457

I've seen this argument made on PULL as well and tbh I never thought she was trying to be an "expert". She usually tries to introduce people who actually know what they are talking about when it comes to cultural stuff. She's pretty humble about her knowledge or usually lack there of. Compared to Miranda, Rachel, Mimei etc she definitely doesn't come off like a know it all.
I just think that some people are so far into "bitch eating crackers" territory with her that they take offense at everything she does.
I mean why does it matter to you that she says she likes learning new things? And given that she's lived abroad for 10 years voluntarily, I would say that she does enjoy different cultures.

No. 23458

I agree. Anons are reaching with the discussion about her posture and her being an expert. The only thing you could criticize is Taylor being quiet about the whole MC thing. I already reported a handful of posts because the thread smells like Kaka.

No. 23459

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No. 23460

could have been better written, but it's cool nonetheless. makes me feel a little proud

No. 23461

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Just so you know, we are here to observe, not to intervene with the cow's lives or to cowtip.

I'm interested of what will come out of this, though

No. 23462

Holy shit, people! Don't you believe in bad karma? Sooner or later justice would have happened but intervening with a cows life? Really?!

Now Taylor has no other choice but to address all of this. Apologize and delete all of this disgusting stuff on MC. But I doubt it will happen since it's Toms' website and Taylor has no say how he has to lead his business. If one of those big thirsty drama channels see this, it's over for her and his career and reputation.

No. 23463

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What is going on with her cheeks? They look super weird in the first bit of her newest vlog, like they're starting to sag

No. 23464

That looks like normal signs of aging to me. Not calling her old. People with larger cheeks develop marionette lines earlier. I suspect she's had some filler in her marionette lines, but it never completely resolves the problem and eventually it dissolves.

No. 23465

I am not sure anyone from here wrote that (who would call lolcow "fans"?). Someone from ONTD saw the thread and wrote an article about it on a laughable livejournal. Why is this cause for outrage?

No. 23466

I have zero doubt that some vendetta-chan from here tipped someone to write that, as this thread has so little traffic and is so nitpicky and dull that there's little chance that someone random would just stumble upon it. It's a cause for "outrage" because cowtipping and intervening is against the site rules, and that article just randomly happening to a cow whose thread has an insane amount of vendetta-chans, salty anons and nitpickers is very unlikely. I mean, just look at these posts >>23463 >>759556 >>23437 It's like she attracts autistic newfags who don't know how this site works, they even commented on Tom's instagram and posted it here.

What's done is done, but for the love of god anons, stop being autistic and just let things happen without forcing it. Make a fucking tumblr to expose them if you're not capable of following the rules here.

No. 23467


I think its more likely someone from PULL rather than someone from here. Taylor's thread is generally pretty dead with rather tame/repetitive nitpicking for the most part.

No. 23468

Sure, somebody tipped someone off, but I think it's a lot to assume that it was a poster in this thread. They took a lot of screencaps and things posted from this thread, but also stuff from PULL that was not posted here.

It's weird that you're so bothered about the fact that Taylor is getting negative publicity on some LJ (oh noes, her life is oooover). Seriously? She married this guy, and worked for MC from its inception. She doesn't care, no one really cares about it; if influential people did, the world would be a different and better place.

I still do not know what the ONTD article has to do with cowtipping or intervening. You don't think Taylor is worth a thread? Fine. But people have the right to talk about her.

The worst thing that happened were those questions and posts on Tom's Instagram. I agree, that's cowtipping. That's intervening. An article about Taylor on another blogging platform? Discussion of Tom's company and its ethics on lolcow? Dumb posts about Taylor and Tom and their plans to have a baby on PULL? That's how the internet works when you are a YoUtUbEr and iNfLuEnCeR.

No. 23469

samefag but how would it be different if this had been posted on tumblr and not on a livejournal

No. 23470

You're reaching. Tom is the one who deserves all negativity related to MC and not Taylor. If you think carefully, there was no way she knew about that 13 year old girl because that magazine has dozens of articles online except she was a reader herself and read all articles religiously. She probably found out at the same time we found out. We can't prove otherwise and that's a fact.

She can't do anything about it because it's his business and not hers. Yes, I agree, she shouldn't have married him. But punishing her with an article on ONTD is more than unfair. Tom should have been the center of attention but instead we see two pictures of her and a question about what she has to say about this situation. I don't doubt that it's intresting what she has to say but Tom should be the one to justify his actions. This is 100% a vendetta-chan because she is shifting Toms guilt to Taylor.

And no-one is questioning the discussion about Taylor. She is a cow and she deserves a thread but what this vendetta-chan did is not okay and is definitely against the rules.

No. 23471

LOL it literally talks about TOM. Practically the whole article is about him, and he's in the gif heading the article. Why is his name not in the title? Because no one who reads that livejournal knows who Tom Lip is. He's not a known name there.

Nothing unkind was said about Taylor - unless you think pointing out that she WORKED FOR MC is unkind. She did! So she has a pretty good idea of what kind of business it is. And yes, anon, "Taylor has yet to comment on the subject." Ah, actually that isn't true - she commented defending her husband but then deleted it, because that's what Taylor does.

What, again, happened that violated the rules of this site? (Aside from that person who interrogated Tom on IG.) That article never blamed Taylor for what happens on Tom's site. The article states she hasn't commented. That's it.

I never said Taylor shouldn't have married him. I kind of think they are right for each other, honestly.

No. 23472

>If you think carefully, there was no way she knew about that 13 year old girl because that magazine has dozens of articles online except she was a reader herself and read all articles religiously. She probably found out at the same time we found out. We can't prove otherwise and that's a fact.

She was doing the whole "dolly" thing when Tom met her, there's no way she doesn't know he's into kids …

No. 23473

Someone on PULL admitted to commenting on Tom's IG. The MC stuff broke out here long before it reached PULL, but it wasn't until it started blowing up on PULL that people began contacting Tom and Taylor about it.

Taylor isn't a celeb and MC is for Chinese speakers in HK so ONTD shouldn't affect Tom or his business much. Could be a problem for the 13 year old model and her parents if it gets out.

No. 23474

She didn't look like a child though. Dolly doesn't equal kid. Most who do or did that style aren't trying to look like children. They just want to look cute. Also, It was a subculture that was pretty popular in 2012-2013 when they met and only taken a bit further than gyaru.

No. 23475

look at the thread image and tell me she isn't trying to look like a child

No. 23476

That's not what she looked like when they met though. That was from 2015/2016 when her weird dolly thing was at it's peak. She was trying to fit herself into the Japanese market by filling a niche that didn't really work.

No. 23477

That's not what she looked like when they met though. That was from 2015/2016 when her weird dolly thing was at it's peak. She was trying to fit herself into the Japanese market by filling a niche that didn't really work.

No. 23478

she was dressing as a schoolgirl, skip to about 4 minutes in if you don't believe

No. 23479

and samefag but if you watch the video, she's known Elbow since at least 2014 and says that she was doing the dolly thing when she met him; it's a long video but maybe worth it to watch after this MC stuff has come to light

No. 23480

Tfw this thread is back on autosage, thanks spergs.

I doubt Taylor will EVER address the MC issue. Most of her subscribers don't know about it. Maybe 1000 of us know and a dozen to thirty people are talking about it online. Addressing that to say 200,000 active followers who DON'T know would be career suicide.

No. 23481

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Dif anon then who you were speaking to, but this is what Taylor looked like/shooped like when she met Tom. ( This is also the type of stuff she had posted of her on MC. ) … I also remember in a video him implying he missed her old (pic related) style.


Oh, it would career suicide. It'd shatter her good girl image and bring heaps of attention to it. Better to leave it alone and make it look like wild rumours from the haters.

No. 23482

Normally I would agree with you but have you read PULL? Some of them are talking about making videos about this topic on YouTube. If this blows up, Taylor is screwed and it would be better to address and resolve everything beforehand. Taylor has some really obsessed people after her…

No. 23483

None of them are actually going to do this. It gives them something to be outraged about. and yeah, Tom is sketchy as hell. But Taylor hasn't really done anything wrong aside from making stupid life choices (again and again). What it does affect is her former wholesome family-friendly image and the illusion of Tom as a hardworking good guy who would never exploit young girls. But both of those illusions were lies. She can create a new image for herself, or address the issue, or say nothing. She'll probably say nothing bc she knows it won't affect her at all.

No. 23484

Not surprised….Kaka & Kota probably leader of the pack too.
I'm loving how 2 years ago, anons wished they had a dude like elbow-san, only to find out he's shady ass hell. Kek

No. 23485

I am pretty sure they are going to make a video about