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YouTuber and streamer Cryaotic, nicknamed Cry, has been accused of pedophilia and sexual abuse by multiple people after outing himself in a video.
Video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4E5B0-8q2E https://archive.is/20200622124430/https://youtu.be/H4E5B0-8q2E
Current status as of 6/27/2020 (From heychrisfox):
3 confirmed privately
It's currently unknown how many were minors.
Cry's social media links:
There is a crap load of information surrounding the accusations, so I'm going to link a great megathread that u/TheMistOfThePast created on Reddit.https://www.reddit.com/r/ChaoticMonki/comments/hef6zr/megathread_cryaotic_accusations/ http://archive.today/2020.06.27-201825/https://www.reddit.com/r/ChaoticMonki/comments/hef6zr/megathread_cryaotic_accusations/
Please remember to sage your posts!(one of the worst thread OPs to date)
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A good amount of new screenshots. Surprised none of it's been posted on here yet?
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Updated timeline of events.
CSV data if anyone wants it: https://pastebin.com/UYiJK1hs
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Shit sorry here you go, read more now I'm thinking it might have been someone trying to just say shit. Gonna read through more and hopefully find more milk.
Idk why these people think irt never should have became public because it needed to be imo. Imagine if people were still supporting him plus victims
would have never spoken up.>>997258
Exactly, it may be legal but it's morally wrong.
OP, where does this "11 public" come from?
You have a screenshot from Chris saying that?
I've only seen these 9 names come up, doesn't add up:
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this happened a few days ago but since i'm the only one here brainletted enough to report it, cry's merchandise store was incinerated. can confirm it was up and running for a couple of days after his video. doubt he took it down himself since the moid has been jacking off in VR chat for the last week & it's still linked on his youtube, though he is still currently listed as a partner on the company website.
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from auri’s server
Yeah, that's incredibly abusive
behavior on his end
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If the ages i saw are all there is to it,
There is no crime.
In florida, 16 year olds are fair play if you are older than 24 i believe. Or 23, don't remenber.
Because cry never had sex with any of them, Its a 3rd degree felony, witch has a time of 3 years to take charges before you can't anymore.
There was no crime, on a legal sense.
Sage your posts if you're not adding anything new jfc
There's rumors circulating that he has nudes of minors. Obviously not confirmed, but illegal if true.
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he has had possession of cp if he has exchanged nudes with someone under the age of 18.
My bad forgot to sage.
That law is just what it is.
a 16 year old can consent to a 23 year old.
a 17 to a 24.
The ocean thing happened six years ago. Only an extension could possibly make the charge stick, but cry is a very popular figure. never left the state and etc, so it would hardly happen.>>997368
That is also a 3rd degree felony in florida. Of course, it depends on how long would be possible to prove he kept them.
Read the whole thing you lazy fucker.
Photos are also a 3rd degree thing in florida.
He only goes to court if it can be proven he kept them after 2017. If he gets rid of them properly, only victim
side chatlogs could prove that.
I mean, sure.
I am not saying that he is innocent. or what he id is ethical.
I am just saying that i have my doubts if this is actually going to amount to anything other then a slap on wrist for a few months.
Then he gets to make a "I beat Cancel Culture" video just like Projared did.
I guess it will all depend on the photos and if any proof of that going on past 2017 is going to show up.
newfags are out of control, I'm telling ya
Do we have confirmation from Scott/the crew that they will release the deets if Cry doesn't release a video tonight/tomorrow? I wasn't sure if the mentioned they also included reporting him to the police or not with the evidence they have.
Only mentioned confirmed of the pigs being involved came from the tweet from Ocean, where one of the reports he made told him to contact them.
Snake on his stream said he will take the list of victims
to "The online platforms he has access to" to pressure them into banning him.
Outside of that, nothing confirmed.
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The closest we've currently got is attached, so if cops are involved, I wouldn't be surprised if we don't hear much of anything until that's wrapped up.
I still feel like unless we have some bombs like,
He sexting some 12 year old and shit, He will walk like projared did.
So…Auri is a victim
of ERP at age 18?
People treating teenagers like fucking children.
Teens fuck around.
They fuck older people from college. A Lot. Very frequently. Cry was an beta pathetic abusive
But no one is a pedo for getting involved with a consenting 16 year old.
Imagine having 16, not being able to fuck or drink but having a 12gauge on the closet.
Archived a few of the past streams. Figured I'd put them all in one reply for organization purposes. Not saged on purpose so it can be found easier later.
Jund's stream transcript: http://archive.md/oRZfF
Snake's stream transcript:http://archive.md/ULhJb
Russ's stream transcript:http://archive.md/ogw6X
Auri's first stream transcript:http://archive.md/Winp0
Auri's second stream transcript:http://archive.md/862CG
"But no one is a pedo for getting involved with a consenting 16 year old."
that's the actual definition of pedophilia, are you dense? if you are under the age of consent, you can't consent.
16 is the age of consent in half of america.
its the age of consent if the other person is 23 in florida.
Just the fact that states in the US can differ in this shows how stupid it is.
And even if it was 18, that is really stupid. Teenagers have sex and there is no problem with that if they use protection.
Teach them instead of shielding them from reality.
Otherwise they cry and break apart the first slightly bad relationship they get in.
People act like teen are pure angels with no sexuality to develop. Don't hide them from the world. Teach them how the world is an how to protect themselfs.
I can only imagine the shitty parenting some of those people went by to be traumatized by beta whimp Cryian when most victims
admitted to not having sexual things happen before being 18.
He needs to be called out for being a toxic
piece of shit who flirts with his best friend girlfriend (That turns out, was a slut that cheated on him with her boss.) And for being insecure and toxic
as shit to his SOs.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
He is 10 years older than Ocean.
Ocean was 16, he was like 25.
You people are fucking disgusting trying to minimize this.
Guess my parents that are 11 years apart and married for life are sexual deviants now.>>997510
even when bellow 18 is consent, some people just insist on the magical number 18 for what ever reason. getting Cryian in jail for being a little older than 23 is just silly. half the college population should be in jail then.
If the genders where reversed no one would give a fuck.
he is still a disgusting piece of shit for fucking red tho.>>997512
For what i saw its even debatable if any charges would even stick, giving how long has it ben since then.
Did your parents get married when one was underage and the other was a full grown man?
Then yes, your parents are sexual deviants and the older one should go into jail for preying on a child.
Did they start dating while your mother was still in highschool and your father could have been graduating with a doctorate? No? Shut the fuck up.
"A little older than 23" two years older? That's a massive difference big guy. He solicited nudes from a minor who was a fan of him. What are you missing?
Looks to be just that one ESL dipshit that wanted to die on the hill of defending a sex pest while unnecessarily bumping the thread with no milk.>>997519
Everyone spot the pedophile!
Teenagers should cry and break apart the first bad relationship they get in. Dumbass
To be fair, Auri herself didn’t confirm this but i mean just in case, don’t keep your hopes too high for now, folks.
Also: you can sage your posts by putting sage in the email slot(minimodding newfag)
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calm down, it wasn’t needed but fine, here you go big baby
The moment you realize LNC did what they did only when they could get fucked by association.
It really gives me the impression they knew all along and just decided to ignore and not talk about it. And because they never talked about it its easy to prove they knew nothing.
Its so fucking weird that they were not prompted to investigate this when they heard he cheated on Chey with a minor.
They didn't know. Ziegs made sure no one else knew. Ocean CONFIRMED none of them other than Ziegs and Cheyenne knew.
Read the fucking previous threads and sage. Newfags make me want to die.
My only issue was he was asking me for pics, then ghost me, come back and say he was in a relationship or maybe relationship and apologize then ask for pics a week later.
Dude was weird. I ended up just sending him whatever paintings I was working on and stopped sending him nudes when he asked and kept it to short chit chat. We only talked for about a year.
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First off, that is not a confirmation that he hasn't diddled a kiddie. Jund didn't know a lot of things.
Second off, "at least he didn't X" is pointless to say as it is just an attempt, intentional or not, to lessen the fact that he's been grooming children.
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well this aged poorly
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After so many years of people giving him shit for being into feet, who would have thought he actually was into hands.
This checks out, doesn't it? Beanie, Magnta, Maya, Simpite, Lunast, and Auri so far are all artists.
Auri even said he first messaged her after he saw her art in the tag. Must've been an easy way to grab fans too.
I wish the YouTube dislike button still worked. Even back then I knew people like that were full of shit because Chey was originally just a fan. Some people figured out the math on her age didn't quite work out, but you had tards like this that would silence any and all criticism with "shut up, you're just *~jealous~* of Chey, they're a happy couple why can't YOU be happy for them huh??" and it was obnoxious as hell.
That and clearly people in the community like Ziegs exist and would gaslight shit, as well as people who thought the gap in their age wasn't a red flag.
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Some more info from Smnius:
- Confirms they were 16+ when first contact was made
- Cry never asked their age
- "I have reason to believe that there are more victims
who have yet to come forward who may be younger."http://archive.vn/LUDXd
Is that a thing that actually happened?
It's very confusing since people always use the most vague language possible, but isn't the only sexual relationship he ever had with Chey? And all the other cheating was via boyfriend rp/exchange of pics on the internet.
I get that, but playing detective online < hiring a professional law firm to handle your case.
Sure, there may be costs involved, but at least there's less chances of fuck ups resulting in the evidence being found inadmissible in court.
It’s very concerning that everyone just ran with cry’s claims of the consent being 16 and nobody even took time to even google it, even the main people involved supposedly gathering info didn’t even simply look up the most simplest thing, which was the laws in the state Cry lives in, also for any victim or anyone in general scared to speak out against cry for blackmail, etc, Florida is a 2 party consent state when it comes to recording conversations or uploading, so if you’re worried about that, if he does that it’ll be completely illegal if he didn’t receive consent. All the minors he’s done anything with that was sexually charged or of a luring nature can 100% get him charged with SOMETHING, what he’s done is considered grooming minors via Internet, even him sending a dick pic, porno, even sexual art is considered illegal if sent to a minor.
I question the legitimacy of Jund and the rest claiming it’s being taken up legally, because speaking to any actual professional they’d have looked into the state laws concerning consent, told them it was 18, explained that the Romeo and Juliet law doesn’t apply in this case, and informed about the grooming via Internet and 2 party consent laws. I smell something very very fishy in the air.
There's nothing we've seen yet that's really going to get a conviction. It's been years, so far all the exchange of photos has been with legal adults, and screenshot of DMs isn't exactly rock solid evidence (websites render locally in the browser, literally anyone can change it say anything with minimal effort, no photoshop required.)
Unless there is more, there's no way he's going to get convicted of anything. That being said, the stink of this scandal has already cost him money and business opportunities. It sounds like the entirety of his social life is online, and he's now a pariah. There is some justice in that, but again very unlikely he's going to have legal consequences here.
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And for everyone who was upset with Auri for profiting off of her victimhood, I'd just like to reiterate that SocialBlade (not sure how reliable that is so take it with a grain of salt) estimates that Cry's youtube channel has made an excess of hundreds to thousands of dollars since he posted his confession video.
If you're upset at victims for being able to make money off of being victims, I hope you have the same attitude towards pedophiles who make money off of being pedophiles.
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Up to you to believe it or not, but Cry has said his last two uploads were unmonetized, in which case he made no money.
Ah! Good catch. Must've missed that.
Hopefully he's telling the truth.
Is there anyone in this thread that wasn't mad at Cry? Are you trying to say that both are okay, or neither are?
I don't think Auri went into it expecting to make money, but people started giving it to her, and she accepted their kindness. I don't really see how it's an issue for anyone. I guess maybe it's bad optics for her message?
In the previous thread, yeah. People were tearing into her for accepting the donations.
Bad optics, maybe. But I think that them being donations validates it; she wasnt demanding the money, people were upset that she was visibly struggling with her situation and willfully elected to give her their money. Russ was getting tons of gift subs in his stream, too, as well as at least one sizable private donation which he mentioned, which makes me wonder why no one is taking the same attitude with him.
Not to shit on Russ or anything. If anyone deserves that money right now, it's him.
People are watching his videos on their own, it's not like he's begging for views.
I do mind "victims
" cloutchasers making a few bucks off of what is really dubious accusations. It sure makes what they saif really suspicious to say the least.
>>997968>People are watching his videos on their own, it's not like he's begging for views.
Doesn't matter. Neither was Auri.
And her claims got proven correct IIRC.
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>>I'm a victim, buy me stuff
Ugh, Onion boy's victims
did the same thing. Here's to hoping no one buys it for her.
It's a pretty damn normal thing for artists to want a screen tablet. Just because someone shares something (probably to have other things to think about than the current issue) doesn't mean shes expecting anyone to buy this for her. Also those bitches are WILDLY EXPENSIVE.
Christ people, relax.
I don’t see what this has to do with this thread, retard. What Auri has given has been verified.
So who gives a fuck about any of this? Seriously, are you braindead?
Ryan is sitting around laughing probably at the fact that he’s playing circles around everyone I mean come on everyone believed him enough that they thought the age of consent in his state was 16 (which it’s not it’s 18) they didn’t even think to look it up or look up the laws. That’s how he was able to sit around and not be worried because not only did it quiet other victims that probably were in the age range of 16 because “oh it’s legal and not much can be done unless you have proof of photos”
Majority of platforms save messages no matter how much you delete or erase or deactivate and if reported to authorities and also contacting those platforms they would give logs and turn it over for investigations, even phone companies keep logs of each numbers owners and previous owners and text logs and dates even when deleted it can be pulled up. Nothing is ever actually deleted forever and if they actually were taking SERIOUS actions into this they’d have known that.
They just want to get the heat off themselves and unfortunately cash in and enjoy the spotlight as the hero’s.
They can’t even control or monitor who is helping them or who is spying on them for Ryan. By next week it’ll go quiet or they’ll drag it on, by the time anyone has the guts to do anything Ryan will have moved, changed his name, and everything and able to live a whole new life with no consequences. As time goes by it’s another day of him saving money, setting up appointments to change his name, finding a new address far away, and changing everything and deleting his accounts and hiding. This could have all gone differently if the people who took charge of this case gathered what they had, did research on the laws, and than got a lawyer or sent it to the FBI or law enforcement with his info. Instead they dragged in on social media to be looked at positively, and attempt to scare Ryan into falling for their fake bait when he was literally bsing and laughing at their whole parade with his own spies reporting back to him. This case if dragged on longer will end up like Onision where everything is so tainted it’ll be useless.
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coward hid his play time
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He changed his discord picture
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No, they absolutely did have a deadline. They abandoned the deadline when they found out Ryan was going to just blame them and posted it. Hence the twitlonger.
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It wasn’t made up by anons but the implication was that it was this weekend… if all they had on him was what has been posted here, I think the bastard might just get away with it.
I’m holding out on them keeping the real evidence to take Ryan down legally.
Though it would be nice to get a drop of milk round here, bit of a drought going on…
Again, do you all expect them to post child porn or something? There’s more than enough evidence that he messed with minors without care. I doubt any victims
would want anything super lewd released publicly
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And again. Seems that his last pfp's artist asked him to change it.
Don’t be ridiculous. Them saying they have evidence of photos exchanged or something that would put him away would be enough tbh. Atm all we’re doing is arguing about the Florida laws of consent.>>998191
Classy, Ryan. You had a week to make a proper statement and your first priority is to change a pfp, and he can’t even do that right. This guy…
Auri didn't even do this, jesus.
Looks like all the fallout will result the thread being nothing but Cry, Chey and Banie being the dumb cows they are.
Speaking of, funy that Chey is MIA now that she looks like the dumb fool she is and that all the whiteknights and SJW tards that supported her disseapeared in seconds after that reveal from Jund lmao.
They are all dumb morons who have done nothing to actually assist towards any of substance.
Cry can't actual have all of his events correctly noted and tried to downplay his abusive
tactics and then he tried to hide all of his shit. To the point where he even denied a victim
's own fucking existence. He didn't even fucking show his own face as a proof to good faith. All he did was played some cool ass music and then tried to stream as if everything that was okay. And then he started to fuck with them via mind games, knowing damn well they don't have the gumption to actually face his ass. Scummy ass shit.
Chey couldn't accept that no one knew what the fuck was going on, so she literally just started pissing on everyone out of no where. Like people who clearly have no idea what's going on, like Russ of all people. Who bawled into tears out of no where during his own live stream of answering questions on how fucked up his situation was via money. It gets worst because then she wanted to go to Cry, and then said "Do something about this" as if he had the power to change the sea into blood like Moses.
Beanie or however the fuck you say her name; doesn't do herself justice by being supportive of Chey's rain of piss to the rest of the LNC. If anything, I kinda wish she went to Snake first and they could had mix shit all together and a good fucking lawyer and then finally they would taken care of it all.
But now we have a big problem. No one has their stories straight. That's bad for the lawyers and their practice, they can't represent someone who doesn't have a fucking good case if all of the facts are in consistent. That requires some investigation money, money that these streamers all do not always have.
This is a shitshow.
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
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Ocean just tweeted. Big yikes
Oh it's true.
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Wasn't Snake already filling a police report? She's a dumb ass becuase she didn't even use real names of the victims
because many of them are still anonymous, making the case most likely get thrown out.
I fucking hate twitter retards.
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The retard is an absolute fucking bellend.
the retard only posted shit for clout, that's why people are pissed. It's a woke retard that isn't doing anything helpful and allowing the victims
to come out when they want, now with the shit info she submitted all the the work Snake and the rest give to police might be considered a stupid online brigade or worse, the crew gets wrapped up and punished becasue they are adults, even though they aren't responsible for what Cry has done.
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this idiot hasn't even been paying attention to the situation at all
What a fucking idiot. If they really did keep up with the situation they would know Snake was working on a full list with the victims
that ACTUALLY wanted their info shared with the appropriate authorities and Ziegs 100% covered for Cry.
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Just a rando who jumped the gun. Snake already said that it didn't affect anything.
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For the love of god how can someone be so stupid and inept? https://archive.md/U0kuf
Did all of this for social behavior points on twitter.
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They're being secretive about it because majority of the victims
want to remain anonymous. Considering how much they're picked apart here I couldn't possibly fathom why.
>>998313>maybe if the ones involved weren't so secretive about something then they wouldn't have shit like this happen
Normally I would agree if Ryan got hurt or a crazy ass fan would just jump in with a shot gun and merc his ass. But this is an ex-fan who doesn't have all of the information, nor even Ryan's own address of residence.
This is in poor taste my guy, Victims
have a right to be anonymous. Now the victims
are under federal lens or at least some interests are gonna be snooping around and that's a fucking problem because victims
are actually pretty embarrassed about sending nudes or doing cyber sex towards a loser who talks in a smooth tone of voice lmao who knew?
Clearly not because they’re still doubling down on taking action on behalf of the victims
The last time someone did this, it made a victim
backpedal and private her twitter (Onion saga). Here's to hoping this retard didn't fuck up the milk with Ocean.
Half of their Twitlonger was a fucking blogpost. Self-serving bullshit.
Really hope this doesn’t jeopardise the official report Snake is planning to make. What a mess…
Funny, but the idea of mob justice is so ingrained in our internet life now that the people who knew about this don't lawyer up and take this case legally before actually revealing anything.
Cry should be punished for what he did, but by taking this to Twitter won't do anything. The internet is a child, it has a short attention spam.
Age of consent in Florida is NOT 16, it’s 18, and the Romeo and Juliet law only counts for dating with permission of parents any sexual contact is illegal it just waives the offender having to register as a sexual offender but they can be charged and imprisoned. Also no, if the victim
is 17 it counts to 21, not 23, 16/21.
It’s for 4 years age differences where the fuck do you people get 23 from?
Auri is legitimate. I believe she sent him the Discord ID, and also you can't have the same name and ID as someone on Discord, even with nitro.
Ocean is a transgender man. Cry came out as pansexual a long time ago already, and Snake and Auri have previously confirmed already that some of Cry's victims
Last question I can't answer.
I see. Thank you.>>998481
Where did they say that? I’ve been surfing the entirety of Internet for almost two solid hours, given I was late to this whole drama, and I don’t recall reading anything about taking actions toward this.
And, also one last thing, I’m not sure if this is cancel culture at this point, Cry is apparently a piece of shit from what I’m gathering on Twitter…? But still feel like people are acting as if they all have a say in this. I know, we used to be his fans and all, we have the rights to know everything but I still feel like this is a little too much. I don’t know. Maybe I’m just a little too introverted. I kinda want to stay out of all of this. Thanks again.
Completely understand the concerns about the privacy they’re keeping, in all honesty nobody had to even tweet about this stuff to begin with or continuously allude to bombshell info that ended up just being jund and the rest of the crew defending theirselves because Ryan was going to throw them under the bus in a video, the only person that had any actual weight in this is Ocean, they really mean business, this back and forth in discord and Twitter dms and threads is unnecessary, it built up excitement for people to hold on, I understand them wanting to give milk but a lot of the milk was given early before anything solid could genuinely be built from it. Everyone that talked to Ryan and getting answers from him posted him too soon when they could have gotten solid content from him, yeah he’s a dick but without context his messages wouldn’t even be understandable. Everyone is too quick for their 15 minutes of attention that they don’t ask the questions that need to be asked, get them responses that would end him 100%, and stopped him from actually saying anything and he’s probably just gonna run and never post anything at all.
Let’s be honest it would have been great for him to post that video, see what he had to say, what dirty secrets or lies he’d have spewed, and than him getting debunked publicly on his own platform.
But because everyone was so quick to get attention they blew it.
They could have ruined him by taking the video speaking from his own words and destroyed him and they ruined it.
If you want to stay out of all this dont post on this thread, common sense.
“Cancel culture this is too much”
Yeah yeah so is sending your Dick to little girls online but I guess it’s not on the same level as calling someone out about it.
Snake has a link for legal advice and action from someone strongly attached to law on his twitter, Scott has made it a point to say to victims
if they want their evidence "used" to contact him, and Ocean is compiling his snapchat logs with him talking about Cry's posting of his penis in image and video format.
They're taking legal action, but legal action isn't exactly something you can publicly talk about constantly.
Sage your shit twitternoob.
Yeah we been knowing about this bullshit for quite a while. It was one of those moments of "it's too good to be true", to be honest Cheyanne was the main indicator that something was fucking weird and fishy.
Those crimes happened a long time ago then?
Doesn't Florida has laws about not being able to press charges after some years for 1st and 2nd degree felony?
Anon, we've known about this for years, like >>998496
said, it was a rumour that started with Chey. We've known about cheating since at least 2015, too. How creepy is that shit now? It was a dam waiting to burst, but we'll see how effective the milk will be in actually punishing him past deplatforming.
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Statement from Draxr (edited the birthday stream for yt): http://archive.vn/WMf5o
Only thing really interesting is how little sense Cry's latest messages make, seems like he could barely string 2 words together.
If so, he will sooner or later hit the 'Great Wall O' Depression' and might become a danger to himself
Not that I can sympathize with him at this point.
I dont sympathise to him either, but now I think he will most likely at least try killing himself, considering of how much of a fuck up his mind is.
Honestly, even though he is one huge jerk, I hope he wont attempt hurting himself and just get off the internet so he won't be creeping around. Get nice therapy n enjoy real life. Dude's been a NEET virgin for too long. while there's still a tiny chance to somehow manage to fix your life problems, he should take it.
this brainlet really thought they were gonna be known as the hero who saved us all from ryan's sexpestery despite being some random ex-fan with nothing to do with the situation or any of the people involved, less than half of the public info, taking a giant shit on the victims
' agency, and posting it for clout. wtf is wrong with twittercels
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He changed his twitter profile pic to a burrito and removed part of his bio. Interesting.
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Was just the credit to the artist
Though I'm not sure why he wouldn't remove the "dab" while he was at it, considering.
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Which is crazy, because lately I'd peg him as more of a subway guy.
he likes girls with bigger dicks than him which are not hard to find.
Happy? i sage.
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lol i have no sympathy for angel, especially with how she treated russ
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jesus fucking christ
So he holds people emotionally hostage, what a stunning revelation.
I doubt he'll kill himself, but if he does I'm sure we'll get to watch twitter comfort themselves about how their hate mobs are just to keep people honest, and how you can't help people unless they want to help themselves. How could they have known?? >:
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It’s just looks like she deleted it early because England is in a different time zone.
But really that’s enough for someone to request a wellness check for Cry. I know Ziegs is probably bullshitting, but it’s the logical thing to do in any situation like this.
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Oh my god, either cry is a massive piece of shit for obviously lying, or Ziegs is being real fucked up and claiming some fucked up shit to cover her ass.
I'm leaning against the first bit, but honestly at this point nothing would surprise me.
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Blowing it up??? Glad to know Michaela is still on the 'pedophilia isn't that bad' train
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Of fucking COURSE she does.
She also voices that cringey ass VN.
Pic from her site, just so everyone knows this isn't a dox.https://sites.google.com/view/michaelaamandalaws/resume?authuser=0
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calling out a predator is cancel culture, apparently
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Seems like ziegs is just trying to save her own ass
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if crys business isnt her business why is she posting about it?¿ also why is she so aggressive? her tweet underneath this one says she knows of a man you will "sock" you. what¿
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"i know of a man who will legitimately fucking sock you"
holy shit what an empty threat
"its none of my business and im not going to comment on it but im commenting on it to say some of the accusations are lies. no i will not say which ones."
jesus christ shut up
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Auri literally gave video proof I–
She's completely ignoring Ocean entirely LOL
Also threatening to block people as if they give a shit
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Maybe if you'd stop constantly inserting yourself???
Grows up? He's been a grown ass man for years now. And who is she to keep someone's hands somewhere? Is she is mother? That seems to be his fetish too so she may as well be.>>999029>I know of a man who will legitimately fucking sock you
Oh god the cringe. Cry's orbiters keep displaying cow behavior. I'm hoping more of them show up so we can have a thread on their obese asses.>>999032>Only the people actually involved know
So in other words, she doesn't. Ocean was involved and would know if Cry is a pedo or not and has said that he essentially is.>>999036
If it's not your problem then stop giving your worthless opinion and shut the fuck up, fatass.
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at this point it’s safe to say she barely knows anything and is just talking out of her ass. just someone else scared to provide any hard proof.
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destroy her, ocean
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honestly yeah ocean and the moeka(seems to be some sorta person she's worked with in VA?) girl's comment sure shut her up. They were pretty clear on why she's acting like a fucking cow
orbit way more popular people and get a big head I guess jesus
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I really don’t get the logic behind this
puts herself in the situation, continues to post about even after saying she doesn’t care and it isn’t her business, acts like a bitch towards people who are asking her simple questions, and then has to have her boyfriend tweet for her because she’s too emotional over something she started. how stupid. i’m glad she’s gone.
i’m just so confused as to why she even started talking in the first place? she’s not been vocal about the situation up until this point and she only spoke up now to defend against ziegs’ random ass tweet that was almost immediately deleted. something feels weird about this.
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kinda have anxiety towards this but I wanted to share my recount as a kid.
No real milk cause I deleted my tumblr years ago, but when I was in highschool I used to draw crycest / cryaotic cringy art. I drew clifford the big red cry, dark!cry and himself, things that would happen in the streams. It was a lot of weird stuff be he always encouraged it when he saw me post in chat. He'd reblog it on tumblr, and comment often, usually something weirdly sexual for me, a teenager. Had a few messages from him because I was in his LNC skype once. I had messaged BStar before bed, saying it was a school night and I hope he and everyone rest well. Then I got a LNC call invite and I was freaked out. But back then, I was beyond excited. It was a good chat, super friendly, but then I talked about how I was lesbian (didn't understand sexuality then but was confused by trauma) and how I would date him even though "I don't like men." He was all giddy, made his voice deep and spoke back to me. Don't remember what he said just how it made my teenage heart feel. We all said our good nights and that was that. Then I messaged him on tumblr, asked what art he wanted, cause I was infatuated with this man. He wanted him and BattleStar drawn as … octopi. I also vaguely remember drawing fem!cry too, it's been ages though. I also remember asking him about sexual art and if he was comfy with it. He said yeah but his "girlfriend didn't like it so he didn't reblog it often."
This is some of the art I could find but the years are way off because they are from way back machine. Just wanted to recount how creepy he was to me and my art at my young age, sorry for nothing solid from him. wish I hadn't deleted.
Seeing all this stuff about cry really brought up some wild memories of him; how friendly and welcoming he was, how he was such a large part of my childhood. And here we are. Whack as fuck. Makes me uncomfortable, and wonder how far he would have gone if we kept talking when I was 15. Freaky as fuck, but I ended up groomed later on in life.(Blog)
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actually she made a post about it on twitter a while ago. dated 6/21/20. should i post all three slides of pictures or link the tweet itself?
Sorry I deleted, I was freaked out cause I only lurk usually.
But yeah, that was me. he had said something about loving a nice pair of tits.
All I can say really is, lol. What a shame if we lose this guy.>>999011
"When he was younger" is such a stupid added line when him being younger literally doesn't matter since he was 23. This bitch needs to stop sipping the kool-aid.
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thats all of it. my opinion: garbage statement.
To be fair she did blackmail him with the whole fucking minors online thing so that she could stick around for a paycheck
At that point they were dating in name but he noped out of the relationship mentally
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Ah yes I'm sure he'll learn and grow even though he's over 30 and has been grooming minors and brain dead adults for near a decade
God this sounds like every other braindead fangirl reply on twitter saying how good he is for acknowledging and how this is a moment of learning and how people need to support him so he can change.
I just assumed it to be mainly how his dumb uwu baka persona resonates with a more naive teenage mind but damn, this is a grown ass woman. Still implying this man doesn't know what he's doing or the consequences of those actions.
Oh oopsie woopsie big fucky wucky wow what a good learning opportunity
Good on Ocean. She really needs to shut the fuck up when she is neither directly involved or a victim
like the others.>>999078
I remember Cry always actively encouraged fanart of his online persona and so much. It all makes sense now that he's a creep that hits on underage girls.
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Please, God, tell me she's going to cry "hackerz". please.
Ziegs, I feel like the police shouldve been contacted a LONG time ago.
I remember him on stream talking about how cheap it was to buy shotguns and he even looked up prices after he was playing a game and really liked the shotgun in it
It was a way long time ago, and I don't remember if he actually ordered one but I wouldn't be surprised if he had one or two guns given his fascination.
Not that him having a gun even matters, like, if he's suicidal the dude will find other ways to kill himself even without a gun, guys.
Nah, that I won't agree on. You gotta be pretty fucking dedicated to kill yourself in mostly every other way. Having a gun is basically having it available at the press of a button.
Not that even if he has a gun and would tweet it out himself, I'd believe him at this point. He's clearly an emotional manipuator.
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Coyote yeah, Ziegs not really. There's absolutely no justification for telling a victim
of a pedo that they need to be quiet to protect the pedo.
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Except Coyote said she KNEW about the minor. Even if she wasn't allowed to say anything she kept making Chey look like the only bad guy. Chey was an asshole yes, but Coyote knew the truth and still attacked Cheyenne to her very big audience. And here's the reference again in case u missed it from the previous thread
Because the last few threads have been absolute garbage OPs, let's do a BIG recap. If I'm missing anything please add on and maybe the next person who makes a thread will fucking post this and not just a picture of Cry's default pic titled "Cryaotic thread".
Before this all went public:
Jund leaves the LNC stream early one night after Cry flips out on him for not enjoying a SJW furry visual novel.https://www.twitch.tv/videos/650209950?t=00h55m42s
Cry goes manic on a privated streamhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Lf0_RFFLPQ
TiaBeanie (Previously went by the name Sakunora in the Cryaotic tumblr fandom) posts on Twitter about her experiences with a "Content Creator". Very quickly the content creator is revealed to be Cry himself.http://archive.vn/g9oph
Cryoatic (accidentally) admits to grooming underaged girls in a youtube video that no one asked for, probably prompted by Tia's post. https://youtu.be/H4E5B0-8q2E
Realizes soon after, he fucked up. Posts a statement on Twitter saying he made it in a manic state, and regrets it. Asks everyone to give him a few days.https://archive.vn/GMuT3
After seeing his video, the LNC refuse streaming the show for that night.
In the LNC private Discord chat, Russ confronts Cry about him cheating with Red, and stealing Angel from him and turning her against him. Cry refuses to apologize.
Cheyenne revels about him admitting it on Twitter. Accuses the LNC boys of knowing he cheated on her with a minor. https://archive.vn/NAPjU
Wit posts on Twitter about how they knew Cry was shady and called it two years ago: https://archive.vn/PqWw9
Ocean returns: https://archive.vn/gQRTx
Angel posts on Twitter that she has cut ties with Cry. https://archive.vn/y0Y5r
Jund streams the next day to try and unwind, people ask questions about what is going on.
-Scott knew he had sexual texts with a 16 year old years ago, he confronted Cry about it saying it was creepy and Cry lied to him and told him he stopped.
-Ziegs said in chat none of them knew it continued to happen and thought it was a one off occurrence.
-Scott says Cry has been acting very weird the past few weeks, might be because of new medication he is on or something.
-Scott says Cry did not tell any of them about the video and they all got blind sided by the upload like everyone else.
-Scott knew Cry had got Red to cheat on Russ, but he had let Russ make the decision to stay or not because he felt it wasn't his place.
-Scott says they (The LNC) have removed cry from LNC. He mentions they will probably start a new show without Cry, but they need to work stuff out.
Shortly after Scott starts streaming, Cry posts this statement on Twitter. Proceeds to stay silent for a week (so far) but continues to play games on steam.https://archive.vn/MVp9F
Cheyenne continues to lie and attack the LNC, saying they KNEW that Cheyenne was underaged despite her telling them for years that the relationship was legal.https://archive.vn/aFu8X
Posts a screenshot of Cry telling her he loved her when she was only 16.https://archive.vn/zfJ4q
Coyotemation returns, and unprivates the “In The Room” video.
Zieg’s makes a Twitter thread saying she & the crew were aware of creepy messages, but they thought it had stopped after that one occurrence.https://lolcow.farm/snow/src/1592785278740.jpg
Lolcow anon Auri creates a Twitter thread and posts her story & proof.https://archive.vn/bpWGehttps://archive.vn/4MJrB
Too many links to post, her Twitter is still up and also archived here: >>>/snow/991718
Cheyenne and Coyote go into a huge Twitter fight after Coyote unprivates the video.
Cheyenne bullied Coyote into reprivating the “In the Room” video based on it “making her want to kill herself”. Too long to archive all so here is the part in the thread with screencaps:>>>/snow/991541
The BIGGEST milk out of this Twitter fight:
Coyote reveals that she knew Ocean was underaged.https://lolcow.farm/snow/src/1593045519723.jpg
Coyote also reveals that Cheyenne was blackmailing Cry with this information to stay on the stream and get more money.https://lolcow.farm/snow/src/1592845042398.png
Shortly after Coyote deleted fucking everything and leaves Twitter.
Snake does his stream to address things from his side.
-Snake knew Cry cheated on Cheyenne, and who it was with because that person was not allowed to return. He did not know details (like age) about said person.
-Snake had read the lolcow threads about Cheyenne and Sage before, but did not read the whole thing and only saw people dogpiling Chey & Sage.
-”I don’t know how explicit I want to be just because it’s not my story to tell. But I will say that the acts that Cry performed were absolutely illegal.”``
-Cheyenne told the crew that her and Cry dating was legal and they didn’t question it after that.
-He didn’t leave after Cry cheated because “you don’t quit your job because your boss cheats on their significant other. You do your job and you don’t deal with that person.”
-Cry cheated on Cheyenne with Red as well as Ocean
-Snake was given info that the most recent inappropriate activity Cry did was 2 days before he posted his video.
Sage accused Scott Jund of abusing her and then privates her Twitter account. She did not explain ANY info or post any proof.https://twitter.com/littlelilacleaf
Cheyenne makes up lies about Jund threatening her, does not post proof “Because steam doesn’t save chat logs” and never mentions it again.https://archive.vn/ps8gk
Auri streams to discuss with people. Twitch laters removed the VOD? Only the first hour of the stream is transcripted.http://archive.md/Winp0
Snake posts on Twitter that he is in contact with someone who can legally help any victims
, and offers to connect victims
who come forward.https://archive.vn/zvcUP
Russ posts a tweet finally addressing Red's cheating. Explains what happened with Angel and what he knew about Cheyenne & Ocean.https://archive.is/20200624193621/https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sr9mg5
Shortly after Russ's tweet, Angel posts a Twitlonger about Russ & that she is sorry for what she's done.https://archive.vn/WHOOT
Russ then goes live
Ziegs continues to respond to people on Twitter claiming she didn’t know Ocean was underaged.http://web.archive.org/web/20200623181013/https:/twitter.com/Ziegsden/status/1275483750143537152
Ocean proceeds to post proof that not only did Ziegs know Ocean was a child, but Ziegs also told Ocean to stay silent or they would face repercussions. http://archive.ph/R64Hk
Ziegs sent Beanie a message saying ALL of the crew knew, Snake shuts this down by posting a Discord chat he had with her a few days ago of her lying to him saying she didn’t know either.https://archive.vn/vJRzP
Auri streams for the second time. Cry messaging her during this time.
Beckens come out and says she is the girl Cry was sending messages to 2 days before releasing his video. Has been in a “flirting” relationship with Cry for the past 11 months.https://archive.vn/8hlLU
Maizilla comes out against Cry saying she was also groomed (as an adult)http://archive.ph/X9pfG
Beckens accuses Auri of faking screenshots (Probably on behalf of Cry.)https://archive.vn/4UZIv
Scott posts a big info dump on Cry, including proof from victims
that gave the okay for him to publicize this.http://archive.md/6Dgmk
Oceans claims ownership of the 1st, 7th, 9th and 13th pictures in Scott’s post.https://archive.vn/kyaZx
Snake posts a twitlonger, he will be sending all the info that comes from victims
who come forward and contact all the platforms Cry is on.http://archive.md/1XSvn
Chris brings up concerns to Jund stating that Cry is claiming he has no idea who Auri is. Jund asks Auri for proof.http://archive.vn/TdwiC
Auri provides proofhttps://twitter.com/ScottJund/status/1276300873098985472http://archive.md/SeLvN
Magnta says that her a Cry were “Fuckbuddies”https://lolcow.farm/snow/src/1593147995676.png
Tori comes forward and says she knows another underaged victim
, but they will come out publicly on their own time. She then posts a dm the victim
has of Cry talking to her acknowledging their age.http://archive.vn/eIpht
Chris posts more screenshots of Cry being an asshole on Twitterhttps://twitter.com/heychrisfox/with_replies
CinnamonToastKen says he isn’t surprised about this stuff coming out about Cry.https://www.twitch.tv/videos/662161647?t=4h39m42s
Anon on lolcow posts a screenshot between Cheyenne and Cry, with them colluding to frame the guys for knowing something they did not know.
Cheyenne is actively working with her abuser to try and get innocent people in trouble.https://archive.vn/FbFN9
Auri gets doxxed, nopes out.
Ocean requests a copy of his data from Snapchat, that contains more incriminating evidence against Cry.
Auri comes back, found out who doxxed her. Was someone she knew irl who is a fan of Crys.https://lolcow.farm/snow/src/1593198411902.jpg
Magnta posts screenshots of her asking Cry about his inappropriate relationships.https://archive.vn/7Wn3khttp://archive.vn/RWcSn
Chris confirms there are ~18 people so far.http://archive.vn/Y4t64
Ziegsden finally responds, on tumblr (Archive is from another tumblr because you have to be logged in to see Zieg’s posts)https://archive.vn/sDYcJ
No word from Cry even though this was the supposed deadline for him to come forward.
Ocean clearly confirms that Cry sent him pictures and video of his penis while knowing Ocean was underaged.http://archive.vn/CRZrq
Lucius comes out as another FWB of Cry’s.
Some idiot comes out admitting to reporting Cry to authorities when she clearly doesn’t know the full situation, has NOT contacted the victims
, and tries to get the hashtags #cryaoticiscancelled and #cryaotic trendinghttp://archive.vn/KXJQX
Within a few hours deletes the post.
Draxr comes out with a statementhttp://archive.vn/M0Gw0
Ziegs unlocks her account for one minutes, posts a tweet saying Cry is suicidal with a shotgun, and then deletes her Twitter and tumblr accounts.https://lolcow.farm/snow/src/1593491443391.png
Cringey fat voice actor and known pedo supporter Michaela Law says that Cry is fine and does not own a firearm. She continues posting telling people to fuck off, read a book, and threatens to block them. Claims Auri is a liar. As soon as Ocean responds to her she “freaks out” and her “boyfriend” takes away her phone.
Michaela confirms Cry is okay: http://archive.vn/UIwqb
Random example of her bullshit: http://archive.vn/j2qFt
Ocean’s tweet: http://archive.vn/BadIy
“Boyfriend” steps in: http://archive.vn/Q8Dqp
Ziegs returns claiming to have been hacked.https://lolcow.farm/snow/src/1593539557146.png
Now waiting for more milk.
Last Snake knew, there were 14 people involved. Last Chris knew, there were 18.
List of confirmed who we know involved romantically/sexually involved with Cry:
Tori’s friend (Underaged)
The people in question:
Ryan Terry (Cryaotic) "31 year old groomer"
Former LNC members:
The actual worst kind of people:
Cheyenne "I SLEPT WITH A YOUTUBER AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS STUPID BLOG."
Ziegsden "Cover up the actual child predator so I still have a job" “I don’t get enough credit”
(nuked) Twitter: https://twitter.com/ziegsden?lang=en
(nuked) Tumblr: https://ziegsden.tumblr.com/
People who have come forward publically with evidence:
Others involved in this mess:
Angel "I'm sof uwu and hungry for clout"
Link tree: https://linktr.ee/magnta555
NSFW Twitter (FOR YOUR OWN SAFETY DON’T CLICK): https://twitter.com/lewdkens?lang=en
Oh, thanks for the Ken link. I was hoping he'd of said something, but must have missed that.
Whoever makes the next thread, if there is one, please don't fucking newfag and miss this. It's long, but I'd rather a long copy-paste than the shit we've been having.
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From Michaela's twitter. Whose side is she on, exactly??
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so she's singling out Auri… why?
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still won't mention Auri or apologize, okay then
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This is the bitch that’s riding Ryan’s coat tail, you’d expect her to be skinny like her avatar.
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She’s going on stream after ignoring everyone confronting her on claiming Auri is a liar without proof
"(our) concerns are valid
"I don't know what's going on"
"I will happily write an apology"
Change of plans, private DM to Auri and public apology later.
This has more twists than pre-season 4 GOT. /s
Probably because Cry did too. Beckens did as well so my assumption is that he's feeding them a bag of his bullshit to eat and they're gobbling it right up like jealous whores. She sure as fuck keeps ignoring Ocean calling her out, too.>>999661
Doubtful, if she did then she wouldn't keep screaming "muh opinion". Neither she nor Beckens have shown any proof but Auri did.>>999733
I mean, Cry is an unattractive fatty so it makes sense that the only ones defending him are also unattractive fatties.
Don't be lazy.
Just google Michaela wa twitch and you will find it.
She is live right now talking about what what happen.(imageboard)
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Auri's tapping out
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According to Scott there’s no real reason to doubt Auri. She may have tried to turn this whole thing into a cash grab but I’m leaning more towards believing her than doubting her.
For that to be a thing i can only imagine that things are not going well for the LNC on the legal side of things.
Jund also commented on being stressed over the legality of it all.
If you’re gonna claim she’s a liar actually show proof
But none of you ever do, it’s just empty slanderous statements
Auri has already shown proof that she's telling the truth. Despite Jund repeatedly saying that she has, it's the whiteknights and vendetta-chans that won't believe it but also won't back up anything that they're saying. Because Auri made money from it, she's a terrible person, but Russ got money from the situation too and he peaced out. There seems to be a lot of double standards.>>999840
It's stressful for everyone who has had to suffer the consequences of Cry's actions. Ocean seems to be the only one not willing to back down which is great cause there's hope that the pedo won't get away with all of it.
Russ got money off of it becuase he lost his fucking job lmao what is that double standards take?
The fucker lost his main source of income for a long period of time and then he noped out because he had an actual reason via mental illness.
I would be a bit distraught and having a fucking anxiety break down if my paycheck just got burnt up because my boss is a pedophile fuck.
The guy even got cucked and had to lower his head to keep his income or go back to the crackhouse that was his parents place.
And even Jaund doubt Auri in the beginning. there is clearly some redflags there.
Even if she is not lying, something about her is clearly off.
It is. She's been saying it for a week or so now but people are still surprised by it.>>999901
This. She hasn't delivered any milk since her first stream. Ocean is the only one delivering milk at this point.
Yeah, and I don't think he's a hypochondriac (which is what Sage said), at least not completely. Hypochondriacs are convinced that they have life threatening illnesses, not just that they feel shitty most of the time and don't know why. He's mentioned that he's fairly obsessive compulsive, and anxiety issues like that can causes physical issues due to the stress. Chronic issues are really hard to diagnosis, and it's probably not something obvious. Anyway, there probably won't be any milk for a while, since any legal proceedings will take time and probably remain private for even longer.>>1000222
No, they're understandably trying to have normal streams where they don't have to focus on it.
After reading this I can only imagine how swiftly everything would’ve gone if the victims
just grouped together in private, compiled all the stories and evidence and then took legal actions.
But no, everthing has to be on twitter first, what a shame.
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Michaela issued an awful apology and said she would stop getting involved http://archive.vn/d8Wwr
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Archived copy: http://archive.vn/OuU1n
Wow Cry is extremely cringey. I'm shocked this works with any adults
I don't see the specific timeline of this one but by any account it's still very fucked for someone around thirty to creep on someone around 18 especially in an incredibly skewed relationship like fan/e-celeb
Just cause it's not illegal doesn't mean it's not reprehensible
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This is the funniest shit I've read in a while. Thanks anon.>>1000369
I guess it's to show how much of a creep he was to pretty much everyone. He couldn't keep his e-dick put away for longer than five seconds and that's on a serious effort day. It doesn't seem like anyone was safe from his sexual harassment. The one who he was e-molesting said that they were really uncomfortable with Cry's rp stuff at times.
According to the same authors statement he made contact with cry when when he was a minor and the flirted back and forth
If THIS is how cry RPs.. makes me wonder whether hes just not coming forth as another underage victims
due to lack of evidence, he said something about deleting everything pre2013 over concerns of Crys privacy and 'paranoia', dont know what about but would make sense if he was underage and knew their dialogues were incriminating
Considering they were still a minor in 2013 but is 18+ in 2015, assuming they turned 18 in 2015, thats dangerously close age wise to the other victims
Yeah, she knew what she was doing. And it's as if Auri needed any more motivation to go silent.
THIS is why people who've been targets of grooming never come out with their stories. Shitheads like her want to scrutinize every little detail and consider her a cash-grabber when she (in my opinion) didn't even do anything to deserve that level of scrutiny.
will be seen as less believable" my ass. Michaela has become the very thing she was fighting against.
For the record >>998227
was a joke, I'm nobody relevant.
To be fair to cry on this, I actually think the guy reciprocated completely. Especially with the fact that he's hiding his messages and only focusing on cry's.
This revealing just comes across as ingenuine to me… Unlike the others we've had so far.
Don't get me wrong though, it does emphasize that that cry is surely a sex addict, and massive cheater.
We call him a sex addict, but in reality, the dude has been sitting in his basement touching himself. All alone. For over a decade.
He might be physically incapable of having sex because he can't get or stay hard unless he's doing this. Porn addiction turns dicks limp. I wonder if Cheyenne would spill the deets.
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she’s too busy changing her bio every other day to be able to give us some milk. Which speaking of, Cheyenne and her gf have removed each-others names out of their bios. Y’all think maybe Christine saw Cheyenne working with Cry and noped the hell out of there?
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>Inb4 cry face reveal
Give or take a few hundred pounds
Agreed. He does say that 90% of their conversations were roleplaying and that he participated in it. He is trying to frame his encounters with Cry as something negative and wrong (probably out of shame, because RPing like this is cringy), but his story basically says that this was a consensual relationship between two adults. He played along and never brought it up in a negative way. So why exactly should this be on the masterlist?
Even his argument about the screenshot in >>1000410
doesn’t make sense. This is just RPing/porn fic 101. If this reminds him of something bad, he should’ve tried leaving the situation or bringing it up if necessary. It is likely that in this consensual, sexual RPing relationship Cyr did not realize he was overstepping a boundary and it would have been possible to say "This triggers
Not saying anything about it and then using a non-issue to cancel him later by blowing it out of proportion is shady. I also think that nonsense like this takes away the spotlight from actual victims
He tries framing the situation in a certain way by randomly inserting his past sexual trauma into it and making weird implications like > what I thought were "positive", consensual interactions
He does say that he is not a victim
, but he sure makes it sound like he is one kek. Imo it does not help the cause and it is very different from being an underaged fan that is being groomed into sexual acts. Denouncing Cry because of him having a consensual, sexual relationship with an adult fan doesn’t make sense.
He already said that he's not a victim
. It doesn't take away from them at all either because it's just one more account of Cry being a cringy e-sex addict.>>1000751>Imo it does not help the cause
So what? It's still funny.
Nope anon, apparently he can only be one of those things.>>1000764
Whiteknighting for who? Cause I said the cringe was funny? Take a nap anon, it's not that serious.
This is a joke.
you can't groom an adult.
By 18 you should have the ability to say yes or no and that is it.
NTAYRT, but I also would not call the case that was discussed earlier as "adult grooming". Agreeing that adult grooming can be a thing, but it is not what happened in >>1000740
and trying to cancel someone for consensual sexual interactions is just as cringy as those embarrassing roleplaying screenshots. This is in no way adult grooming, but a situation where literally nothing bad happened and the OP could have just said "no" or, even better, could have stopped writing cringy roleplay shit himself.
Fair point: People are fucking dumb. but by 18 years old you are considered to be capable of making your own adult decisions. (Assuming no mental retardation problems, of course)
If you consent to something stupid but legal, that is on you. Don't cry victim
for being dumb.>>1000943
That is not the definition of grooming. grooming is making friends with the familly of/a minor to gain their trust and eventually have illegal sex with them.
If i offer 1k to a 18 old dude for sex and he says
yes, its consensual prostitution.
If i convince some 19 old college kid that i totally love him and not just want a quick lay and he bites, its called being a bitch and a liar.
Not grooming. Or rape.
Don't cry Rape at your bad tinder date.>>1000975
You can be a sex addict and still not be a rapist or a disgusting pedo. Being overly sexual with a consenting adult is just annoying at best. if not for the other evidence this would be meaningless.
Also, was him a minor when he started? Was he not?
this cow is contradicting herself.
Are you retarded or just cant read? OP has never claimed to have been groomed or was a victim
or 'cry rape/victim
' and made abundantly clear things are just for context, holy fuck.
Op was hit on in the same way when he was a minor which carried onto adulthood where he began to reciprocate, thats the important part
I can't really agree to this.
If he never had contact with the person, he cannot be blamed for the person stupidity of wanting to give him attention after they turned 18.
If the groopie is 18+, the groopie is a consensual adult by law.
My confusion is: He puts on his statement that he is not a victim
and was not groomed, but by the end off >>1000975
he says they flirted when he was a minor. witch is 100% a crime in florida, by the way.
How do you not get that explicitly targeting fans, especially young ones, creates an inappropriate power dynamic? If this was just about sex it would be very easy for him to find shitty rp sex anonymously on any of the dozens of forums for that exact thing, but instead he chose to engage with fans in that manner repeatedly because he liked the extra attention he got from them treating him like he was special.
If you're a celebrity, or for the sake of example an e-celebrity like a streamer or something, and some crazy fan is like "omg I love you so much I didn't pay my rent this month so I could donate $1500" you still have a responsibility to be like "Hey, don't fucking do that." Sure they chose to donate but that doesn't mean you have to enable their bad decision, even if it would be totally legal for you to keep the money. It's about morality.
this is why actual celebrities generally don't date/have sexual contact with their fans. the other person being a fan inherently skews the relationship.
there's a dynamic that makes the fan unlikely to say no to anything, and a good chance that years down the line fan is going to wake up and realise they were starstruck the whole time and only agreed because of that, then boom.
that's why this shit is weird even if the fan is 18+. cry's ~status~ in their heads still affects their likelihood of reciprocating. was it ultimately their decision to reciprocate? yes. but did cry abuse his fans' higher likelihood to agreeing to sexual contact with him because he's a fat basement dweller who normie women and men would never fuck? also yes.
He says he doesnt 'consider himself a victim
', important distinction
Also not sure if relevant, but UK age of consent is 16. Op is from the UK last time I checked, so my guess is he cant claim Crys done anything illegal from his perspective?
This is just one person's perspective out of, what, the fucking 30 plus fucking fans he had sexual contact with? Can we stop acting like what Cry did was okay?
Also have we forgotten that he HAS sent pictures and videos of his dick to a minor? Jesus christ. Stop focusing on ONE DUDE who was just giving some examples of how Cry acts.
Countries that have lower consent ages tend to have better sexual education than the US, So its probably that. Kids learn much earlier and much better what and how to avoid, use protection, responsibility,How to not fuck up one time things by getting pregnant. They basically become adults earlier.
OP did not sounded traumatized or hurt by what happened if not by the
"Fuck i flirted with a Pedo" moment and how disappointed everybody is on Cryian.>>1001014
Your exemple and what happened are not the same.
If someone donate a lot of money to the streamer and tell them that they have no money, Yes, the streamer will tell them not to do that, but most likely keep the money. they have no moral obligation of cover someone else's bad life decisions.
If the groopie goes to fuck the celebrity, All they need to do is say "Are you sure?" If they say yes that is it. You are an adult.
You know what you are doing. stop trying to dodge your responsibility. Fans are not mindless zombies. They know what they are doing. They are fucking adults.
He is also not your boss or any sort of authority. You cannot have a weird power dynamic with someone that has no power over you.
Cry's is an asshole because he is seducing people that ARE NOT capable of knowing what they are doing. even if he is doing like Jund and OP said of just trying to fuck anything that gives him the time of day, that is still resulting on him being sexual towards US minors that do not know the correct end of a condom.
He needs Jail time.
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This is like the 3rd time she's changed her bio, despite never posting or addressing the fact she was trying to collude with Cry to implicate Russ, Jund and Snake despite Ocean already confirming they didn't know he was underage.
Didn't take you for a coward, Cheyenne. You always ran your mouth before.
There are always power imbalances between fan relationships and creators. Like anon said above me, the "high" of getting attention from someone like that will make people say yes to things they might not be comfortable with. Add in the fact that when you're a minor you're brain literally isn't developed enough to make good choices and the question isn't "were they that naive?" Its was Cry that naive to believe that they were on the same playing field mentally doing all this as a grown man? He knew what he was doing was wrong. He knew that he could get away with his behavior because they were young and stupid.
When there's thousands of people you can choose from your own age to date why go for your underage fans? Because they're easy to manipulate and probably won't even know what you're doing to them is fucked up until they mature but by then its usually too late.
Adult women are in a whole other playing field than teenagers. Most wouldnt be willing to put up with a sexpest BF and most could see through the red flags of sexual manipulation. Dudes like Cry would rather just take the "easy" route and take advantage of that immaturity and insecurity teen girls have.
"the ghost of the opera" She wishes she was Erik, she's really just Carlotta.>>1001091
Teenagers having sex with other teenagers is different than a teenager having sex with a fully grown 22+ year old. Let teenagers fuck each other, whatever, but ADULTS should not be fucking them.
Sex Ed in united stated is as pathetic as any of cry's possible excuses for what he did.
Us treats teens as kids, and it shows when they are way past their age of consent but breakdown and are traumatized for ever at their first bad tinder date.
Or, you know. The prolific teen pregnancy problem. that just does not happen on places with a lower age of consent but much better sex ed.>>1001131
The point is that you cannot have a power imbalance on someone that does not pay your bills or is not your authority. Any power play resulting of that is consensual and willing. Some people do get off on having sex with their idols but if they are of age, they know what they are doing. They are not brainless.
Cry is despicable for going after people that are not mentally ready to be able to consent, But don't full yourself. it has nothing to do with brain development about that age. Is about sexual education and culture. Compare to other places, US infantilizes teens, making them mature latter.
But if in the us a 17 old is a child in the us, then Cry needs to go to jail for pedofilia. He could have done that with any consensual adult, but he could not hold his dick back and harmed children. this caw needs to go to the slaughter.
>hur hur bad sex ed is the reason why this is happening
No; it's because literally creepy ass old men are going after naive kids. Naivety is a byproduct of having kids, it's what makes kids so pure and happy. And just because it's a federal age law of consent, doesn't mean you fucking should do it lmao
What is with these bad takes my guy?
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it changed again. Stop vague bio tweeting and stay off Twitter, Chey
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the fact idolised this man as a little girl sickens me.
came forward - someone who knew cry before he was big on YouTube http://archive.today/Gk74I(imageboard)
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>>1001251>you cannot have a power imbalance on someone that does not pay your bills or is not your authority
you heard the pedo, lads! pedophilia is only real if the pedo is his victims
' parent or teacher lmfao
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posting these here so all the bases are covered: latest victim’s discord conversation with cry
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and her reddit conversation with him (1)
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If being awkward/an asshole concerning sexual matters was a crime, every human being from 12 and up would be in jail.
Besides, what he did is, in fact, what some people do in sexual relationships. The man be cringe but, in this case, it's fucking clout chasing again (or just severe immaturity).
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but anon, don't you know that no one has to take responsibility for themselves and EVERYONE is a victim
, no exceptions? I don't know if some of these are trauma so much as shame and regret for getting played by an ugly fuck whom they once idolized.
>there's really no point to come out and say this.
This post, if anything, is reinforcing the claims that many have made over the past few weeks.
someone: cryaotic took advantage of me and these people's stories need to be heard and legal actions should be taken.
anons: omg baseless claim, no evidence, show milk or get doxxed cowvictims
: step forward to share their stories, provide a bit of milk, standing together to reinforce each others' claims about a gross man using his youtube fame to take advantage of underage girls
you: wow. no point in this post. why even come forward.
honestly, did you even read the screenshots?>>1002111
Where have any of these victims
NOT taken responsibility for themselves? It seems like every other sentence in their stories is "maybe I was young and stupid," "i know now i shouldnt have egged him on/RP'd with him" etc etc.
countless posters agreed and have proof this is the fucking case. if somebody was trying to tell you that, maybe you should respond to those comments instead of using this thread like twitter to moralfag your opinions on 9 threads of evidence. sure, some people are wallowing in sorrows, but youd be blind to pretend cry hasnt spent this time doing the exact same thing in regards to his own behaviour. to ignore power dynamics in relationships involving public figures is stupid and biased against "actual victims
Therapists are outdated Anon, the last few months have clearly established Twitter and TwitLonger as the new modern methods of mental healing.
FFS, get in with the times boomer /s
Almost every single victim
that has come out throughout this whole process HAS taken responsibility for their part. Nearly all of them have said something akin to “I shouldn’t have encouraged him or sought out his attention”. They have already claimed their part. Cry hasn’t and that’s the issue, that’s why more and more people are adding to the claims.
He has shown a pattern of abuse and manipulation. The victims
and other people posting their experiences with him are just affirming that this is who he is and what he does.
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No you've got it all wrong guys. She's now answering to a higher authority; clearly she's found Jesus.
And right she is, what better way to collude with a child predator than with the aid of the Catholic church.
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watch out guys
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Auri: I'm stepping down for a bit guys
That didn't last all too long.
>YOU CANT BE BY MY SIDE IF YOURE TEARING INTO OTHER VICTIMS
Bitch fuck off, not all victims
here are sweet angels like you lmao. Read the fucking room. Fuck me Cheyenne even was blackmailing fuckers to be around.
When you take a break; it's normally a month or so. Especially if you're dealing with an abusing manipulative monster like Cryaotic. So no it's not really that rare to get a bit cynical about how long a supposed victim
leaving and then come back out of no where.
Especially when the said victim
had donations for her QnA stream. So take that as you will from that note.
There's no guide on how to react to situations like this. Some need time out of the internet to feel better. Some need to keep their schedules as if nothing has happened. Some just need to have a 5 day break.
Not everyone reacts the same. Let her do what makes her feel better on her own way.
no confirmed victims
? so the ocean logs aren't enough for you lmao?
I meant no confirmed victims
involved with the charity stream, not that there weren't any confirmed victims
The recent girl in this thread that knew cry before fame kind of confirms that he didn’t just keep things online, it became a physical thing, same with Cheyenne, and Beckens when she admitted she got sexual with him a few days before he exposed himself.
I’m 100% sure there’s plenty of others, he isn’t just satisfied from online sex, it turns into a real thing eventually with some of the people that he builds loyalty with. I don’t think he’s into it just for sex and random hook ups, it’s more like he enjoys the whole act of luring them in, romancing them, contacting them for night time sexting while he’s in relationships, than getting them to do everything and anything he ask for
He’s definitely into moral degeneration. This also explains why he tends to juggle multiple at a time, only a handful take them bait the others eventually get tired and stop replying.
Okay, who cares, we can stop defending her too, Jesus Christ. It doesn't matter. She also doesn't need a team of white knights in here, you guys are annoying.
Both sides of you guys are retards.
Head pat? What are you? Fucking 10? Grow the fuck up.
I am all up for critiquing people's behaviors but when it comes to this kind of abuse… Let them be. Except Cheyenne. Fuck her
are we forgetting she made an entirely new persona to come forward with her story safely?
She was a streamer before this current account shes using, she set up paypal for the sole reason of pity donations.
Wait, I didn't actually know this. She's a streamer? Why is she accepting donations at all under her Auri pseudonym then? Why is she even creating a community under this name, if she's a streamer with, I'm assuming, a community with her own already? Is she multitasking two streaming communities? What's the goal here with that, then?
That's actually extremely strange.
I'm not going to doxx her, someone did post her original username in previous threads if you care to look.
TLDR, she had a dead community (i think she deleted her old accounts now) and was trying her best to be a typical streamer, she bought 10k followers to look as if she was somewhat "known".
I understand creating a persona when you're coming forward with sensitive info about yourself, that i'm fine with. I'm not fine with her trying to create a community around an account that should have just been a throw away, as well as to make a brand new twitch account with donation buttons etc.
Who honestly cares?
I don't get why everyone is so obsessed with Auri, just make a thread on her if you're all so invested in her.
Anon I don't know how the fuck you got that they physically fucked from that, Beckens lives in California if you did any semblance of research. And people who fuck irl dont message each other on reddit sorry to burst your bubble.
All the pussy Cry gets is entirely online except for the one case of Cheyenne who pretty much forced him to let her visit. The dude is an awkward beta who doesn't like irl interactions and luves his power fantasy through Skype roleplay.
Actually he said he didn't
know about the drama, heard rumors about allegations that he didn’t look into. Started watching Cry’s video and mocked how vague and dragged it sounds then closed the window coz clearly there’s nothing there.