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YouTuber and streamer Cryaotic, nicknamed Cry, has been accused of pedophilia and sexual abuse by multiple people after outing himself in a video.
Video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4E5B0-8q2E https://archive.is/20200622124430/https://youtu.be/H4E5B0-8q2E
Current status as of 6/27/2020 (From heychrisfox):
3 confirmed privately
It's currently unknown how many were minors.
Cry's social media links:
There is a crap load of information surrounding the accusations, so I'm going to link a great megathread that u/TheMistOfThePast created on Reddit.https://www.reddit.com/r/ChaoticMonki/comments/hef6zr/megathread_cryaotic_accusations/ http://archive.today/2020.06.27-201825/https://www.reddit.com/r/ChaoticMonki/comments/hef6zr/megathread_cryaotic_accusations/
Please remember to sage your posts!(one of the worst thread OPs to date)
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A good amount of new screenshots. Surprised none of it's been posted on here yet?
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Updated timeline of events.
CSV data if anyone wants it: https://pastebin.com/UYiJK1hs
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Shit sorry here you go, read more now I'm thinking it might have been someone trying to just say shit. Gonna read through more and hopefully find more milk.
Idk why these people think irt never should have became public because it needed to be imo. Imagine if people were still supporting him plus victims
would have never spoken up.>>997258
Exactly, it may be legal but it's morally wrong.
OP, where does this "11 public" come from?
You have a screenshot from Chris saying that?
I've only seen these 9 names come up, doesn't add up:
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this happened a few days ago but since i'm the only one here brainletted enough to report it, cry's merchandise store was incinerated. can confirm it was up and running for a couple of days after his video. doubt he took it down himself since the moid has been jacking off in VR chat for the last week & it's still linked on his youtube, though he is still currently listed as a partner on the company website.
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from auri’s server
Yeah, that's incredibly abusive
behavior on his end
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If the ages i saw are all there is to it,
There is no crime.
In florida, 16 year olds are fair play if you are older than 24 i believe. Or 23, don't remenber.
Because cry never had sex with any of them, Its a 3rd degree felony, witch has a time of 3 years to take charges before you can't anymore.
There was no crime, on a legal sense.
Sage your posts if you're not adding anything new jfc
There's rumors circulating that he has nudes of minors. Obviously not confirmed, but illegal if true.
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he has had possession of cp if he has exchanged nudes with someone under the age of 18.
My bad forgot to sage.
That law is just what it is.
a 16 year old can consent to a 23 year old.
a 17 to a 24.
The ocean thing happened six years ago. Only an extension could possibly make the charge stick, but cry is a very popular figure. never left the state and etc, so it would hardly happen.>>997368
That is also a 3rd degree felony in florida. Of course, it depends on how long would be possible to prove he kept them.
Read the whole thing you lazy fucker.
Photos are also a 3rd degree thing in florida.
He only goes to court if it can be proven he kept them after 2017. If he gets rid of them properly, only victim
side chatlogs could prove that.
I mean, sure.
I am not saying that he is innocent. or what he id is ethical.
I am just saying that i have my doubts if this is actually going to amount to anything other then a slap on wrist for a few months.
Then he gets to make a "I beat Cancel Culture" video just like Projared did.
I guess it will all depend on the photos and if any proof of that going on past 2017 is going to show up.
newfags are out of control, I'm telling ya
Do we have confirmation from Scott/the crew that they will release the deets if Cry doesn't release a video tonight/tomorrow? I wasn't sure if the mentioned they also included reporting him to the police or not with the evidence they have.
Only mentioned confirmed of the pigs being involved came from the tweet from Ocean, where one of the reports he made told him to contact them.
Snake on his stream said he will take the list of victims
to "The online platforms he has access to" to pressure them into banning him.
Outside of that, nothing confirmed.
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The closest we've currently got is attached, so if cops are involved, I wouldn't be surprised if we don't hear much of anything until that's wrapped up.
I still feel like unless we have some bombs like,
He sexting some 12 year old and shit, He will walk like projared did.
So…Auri is a victim
of ERP at age 18?
People treating teenagers like fucking children.
Teens fuck around.
They fuck older people from college. A Lot. Very frequently. Cry was an beta pathetic abusive
But no one is a pedo for getting involved with a consenting 16 year old.
Imagine having 16, not being able to fuck or drink but having a 12gauge on the closet.
Archived a few of the past streams. Figured I'd put them all in one reply for organization purposes. Not saged on purpose so it can be found easier later.
Jund's stream transcript: http://archive.md/oRZfF
Snake's stream transcript:http://archive.md/ULhJb
Russ's stream transcript:http://archive.md/ogw6X
Auri's first stream transcript:http://archive.md/Winp0
Auri's second stream transcript:http://archive.md/862CG
"But no one is a pedo for getting involved with a consenting 16 year old."
that's the actual definition of pedophilia, are you dense? if you are under the age of consent, you can't consent.
16 is the age of consent in half of america.
its the age of consent if the other person is 23 in florida.
Just the fact that states in the US can differ in this shows how stupid it is.
And even if it was 18, that is really stupid. Teenagers have sex and there is no problem with that if they use protection.
Teach them instead of shielding them from reality.
Otherwise they cry and break apart the first slightly bad relationship they get in.
People act like teen are pure angels with no sexuality to develop. Don't hide them from the world. Teach them how the world is an how to protect themselfs.
I can only imagine the shitty parenting some of those people went by to be traumatized by beta whimp Cryian when most victims
admitted to not having sexual things happen before being 18.
He needs to be called out for being a toxic
piece of shit who flirts with his best friend girlfriend (That turns out, was a slut that cheated on him with her boss.) And for being insecure and toxic
as shit to his SOs.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
He is 10 years older than Ocean.
Ocean was 16, he was like 25.
You people are fucking disgusting trying to minimize this.
Guess my parents that are 11 years apart and married for life are sexual deviants now.>>997510
even when bellow 18 is consent, some people just insist on the magical number 18 for what ever reason. getting Cryian in jail for being a little older than 23 is just silly. half the college population should be in jail then.
If the genders where reversed no one would give a fuck.
he is still a disgusting piece of shit for fucking red tho.>>997512
For what i saw its even debatable if any charges would even stick, giving how long has it ben since then.
Did your parents get married when one was underage and the other was a full grown man?
Then yes, your parents are sexual deviants and the older one should go into jail for preying on a child.
Did they start dating while your mother was still in highschool and your father could have been graduating with a doctorate? No? Shut the fuck up.
"A little older than 23" two years older? That's a massive difference big guy. He solicited nudes from a minor who was a fan of him. What are you missing?
Looks to be just that one ESL dipshit that wanted to die on the hill of defending a sex pest while unnecessarily bumping the thread with no milk.>>997519
Everyone spot the pedophile!
Teenagers should cry and break apart the first bad relationship they get in. Dumbass
To be fair, Auri herself didn’t confirm this but i mean just in case, don’t keep your hopes too high for now, folks.
Also: you can sage your posts by putting sage in the email slot(minimodding newfag)
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calm down, it wasn’t needed but fine, here you go big baby
The moment you realize LNC did what they did only when they could get fucked by association.
It really gives me the impression they knew all along and just decided to ignore and not talk about it. And because they never talked about it its easy to prove they knew nothing.
Its so fucking weird that they were not prompted to investigate this when they heard he cheated on Chey with a minor.
They didn't know. Ziegs made sure no one else knew. Ocean CONFIRMED none of them other than Ziegs and Cheyenne knew.
Read the fucking previous threads and sage. Newfags make me want to die.
My only issue was he was asking me for pics, then ghost me, come back and say he was in a relationship or maybe relationship and apologize then ask for pics a week later.
Dude was weird. I ended up just sending him whatever paintings I was working on and stopped sending him nudes when he asked and kept it to short chit chat. We only talked for about a year.
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First off, that is not a confirmation that he hasn't diddled a kiddie. Jund didn't know a lot of things.
Second off, "at least he didn't X" is pointless to say as it is just an attempt, intentional or not, to lessen the fact that he's been grooming children.
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well this aged poorly
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After so many years of people giving him shit for being into feet, who would have thought he actually was into hands.
This checks out, doesn't it? Beanie, Magnta, Maya, Simpite, Lunast, and Auri so far are all artists.
Auri even said he first messaged her after he saw her art in the tag. Must've been an easy way to grab fans too.
I wish the YouTube dislike button still worked. Even back then I knew people like that were full of shit because Chey was originally just a fan. Some people figured out the math on her age didn't quite work out, but you had tards like this that would silence any and all criticism with "shut up, you're just *~jealous~* of Chey, they're a happy couple why can't YOU be happy for them huh??" and it was obnoxious as hell.
That and clearly people in the community like Ziegs exist and would gaslight shit, as well as people who thought the gap in their age wasn't a red flag.
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Some more info from Smnius:
- Confirms they were 16+ when first contact was made
- Cry never asked their age
- "I have reason to believe that there are more victims
who have yet to come forward who may be younger."http://archive.vn/LUDXd
Is that a thing that actually happened?
It's very confusing since people always use the most vague language possible, but isn't the only sexual relationship he ever had with Chey? And all the other cheating was via boyfriend rp/exchange of pics on the internet.
I get that, but playing detective online < hiring a professional law firm to handle your case.
Sure, there may be costs involved, but at least there's less chances of fuck ups resulting in the evidence being found inadmissible in court.
It’s very concerning that everyone just ran with cry’s claims of the consent being 16 and nobody even took time to even google it, even the main people involved supposedly gathering info didn’t even simply look up the most simplest thing, which was the laws in the state Cry lives in, also for any victim or anyone in general scared to speak out against cry for blackmail, etc, Florida is a 2 party consent state when it comes to recording conversations or uploading, so if you’re worried about that, if he does that it’ll be completely illegal if he didn’t receive consent. All the minors he’s done anything with that was sexually charged or of a luring nature can 100% get him charged with SOMETHING, what he’s done is considered grooming minors via Internet, even him sending a dick pic, porno, even sexual art is considered illegal if sent to a minor.
I question the legitimacy of Jund and the rest claiming it’s being taken up legally, because speaking to any actual professional they’d have looked into the state laws concerning consent, told them it was 18, explained that the Romeo and Juliet law doesn’t apply in this case, and informed about the grooming via Internet and 2 party consent laws. I smell something very very fishy in the air.
There's nothing we've seen yet that's really going to get a conviction. It's been years, so far all the exchange of photos has been with legal adults, and screenshot of DMs isn't exactly rock solid evidence (websites render locally in the browser, literally anyone can change it say anything with minimal effort, no photoshop required.)
Unless there is more, there's no way he's going to get convicted of anything. That being said, the stink of this scandal has already cost him money and business opportunities. It sounds like the entirety of his social life is online, and he's now a pariah. There is some justice in that, but again very unlikely he's going to have legal consequences here.
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And for everyone who was upset with Auri for profiting off of her victimhood, I'd just like to reiterate that SocialBlade (not sure how reliable that is so take it with a grain of salt) estimates that Cry's youtube channel has made an excess of hundreds to thousands of dollars since he posted his confession video.
If you're upset at victims for being able to make money off of being victims, I hope you have the same attitude towards pedophiles who make money off of being pedophiles.
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Up to you to believe it or not, but Cry has said his last two uploads were unmonetized, in which case he made no money.
Ah! Good catch. Must've missed that.
Hopefully he's telling the truth.
Is there anyone in this thread that wasn't mad at Cry? Are you trying to say that both are okay, or neither are?
I don't think Auri went into it expecting to make money, but people started giving it to her, and she accepted their kindness. I don't really see how it's an issue for anyone. I guess maybe it's bad optics for her message?
In the previous thread, yeah. People were tearing into her for accepting the donations.
Bad optics, maybe. But I think that them being donations validates it; she wasnt demanding the money, people were upset that she was visibly struggling with her situation and willfully elected to give her their money. Russ was getting tons of gift subs in his stream, too, as well as at least one sizable private donation which he mentioned, which makes me wonder why no one is taking the same attitude with him.
Not to shit on Russ or anything. If anyone deserves that money right now, it's him.
People are watching his videos on their own, it's not like he's begging for views.
I do mind "victims
" cloutchasers making a few bucks off of what is really dubious accusations. It sure makes what they saif really suspicious to say the least.
>>997968>People are watching his videos on their own, it's not like he's begging for views.
Doesn't matter. Neither was Auri.
And her claims got proven correct IIRC.
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>>I'm a victim, buy me stuff
Ugh, Onion boy's victims
did the same thing. Here's to hoping no one buys it for her.
It's a pretty damn normal thing for artists to want a screen tablet. Just because someone shares something (probably to have other things to think about than the current issue) doesn't mean shes expecting anyone to buy this for her. Also those bitches are WILDLY EXPENSIVE.
Christ people, relax.
I don’t see what this has to do with this thread, retard. What Auri has given has been verified.
So who gives a fuck about any of this? Seriously, are you braindead?
Ryan is sitting around laughing probably at the fact that he’s playing circles around everyone I mean come on everyone believed him enough that they thought the age of consent in his state was 16 (which it’s not it’s 18) they didn’t even think to look it up or look up the laws. That’s how he was able to sit around and not be worried because not only did it quiet other victims that probably were in the age range of 16 because “oh it’s legal and not much can be done unless you have proof of photos”
Majority of platforms save messages no matter how much you delete or erase or deactivate and if reported to authorities and also contacting those platforms they would give logs and turn it over for investigations, even phone companies keep logs of each numbers owners and previous owners and text logs and dates even when deleted it can be pulled up. Nothing is ever actually deleted forever and if they actually were taking SERIOUS actions into this they’d have known that.
They just want to get the heat off themselves and unfortunately cash in and enjoy the spotlight as the hero’s.
They can’t even control or monitor who is helping them or who is spying on them for Ryan. By next week it’ll go quiet or they’ll drag it on, by the time anyone has the guts to do anything Ryan will have moved, changed his name, and everything and able to live a whole new life with no consequences. As time goes by it’s another day of him saving money, setting up appointments to change his name, finding a new address far away, and changing everything and deleting his accounts and hiding. This could have all gone differently if the people who took charge of this case gathered what they had, did research on the laws, and than got a lawyer or sent it to the FBI or law enforcement with his info. Instead they dragged in on social media to be looked at positively, and attempt to scare Ryan into falling for their fake bait when he was literally bsing and laughing at their whole parade with his own spies reporting back to him. This case if dragged on longer will end up like Onision where everything is so tainted it’ll be useless.
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coward hid his play time
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He changed his discord picture
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No, they absolutely did have a deadline. They abandoned the deadline when they found out Ryan was going to just blame them and posted it. Hence the twitlonger.
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It wasn’t made up by anons but the implication was that it was this weekend… if all they had on him was what has been posted here, I think the bastard might just get away with it.
I’m holding out on them keeping the real evidence to take Ryan down legally.
Though it would be nice to get a drop of milk round here, bit of a drought going on…
Again, do you all expect them to post child porn or something? There’s more than enough evidence that he messed with minors without care. I doubt any victims
would want anything super lewd released publicly
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And again. Seems that his last pfp's artist asked him to change it.
Don’t be ridiculous. Them saying they have evidence of photos exchanged or something that would put him away would be enough tbh. Atm all we’re doing is arguing about the Florida laws of consent.>>998191
Classy, Ryan. You had a week to make a proper statement and your first priority is to change a pfp, and he can’t even do that right. This guy…
Auri didn't even do this, jesus.
Looks like all the fallout will result the thread being nothing but Cry, Chey and Banie being the dumb cows they are.
Speaking of, funy that Chey is MIA now that she looks like the dumb fool she is and that all the whiteknights and SJW tards that supported her disseapeared in seconds after that reveal from Jund lmao.
They are all dumb morons who have done nothing to actually assist towards any of substance.
Cry can't actual have all of his events correctly noted and tried to downplay his abusive
tactics and then he tried to hide all of his shit. To the point where he even denied a victim
's own fucking existence. He didn't even fucking show his own face as a proof to good faith. All he did was played some cool ass music and then tried to stream as if everything that was okay. And then he started to fuck with them via mind games, knowing damn well they don't have the gumption to actually face his ass. Scummy ass shit.
Chey couldn't accept that no one knew what the fuck was going on, so she literally just started pissing on everyone out of no where. Like people who clearly have no idea what's going on, like Russ of all people. Who bawled into tears out of no where during his own live stream of answering questions on how fucked up his situation was via money. It gets worst because then she wanted to go to Cry, and then said "Do something about this" as if he had the power to change the sea into blood like Moses.
Beanie or however the fuck you say her name; doesn't do herself justice by being supportive of Chey's rain of piss to the rest of the LNC. If anything, I kinda wish she went to Snake first and they could had mix shit all together and a good fucking lawyer and then finally they would taken care of it all.
But now we have a big problem. No one has their stories straight. That's bad for the lawyers and their practice, they can't represent someone who doesn't have a fucking good case if all of the facts are in consistent. That requires some investigation money, money that these streamers all do not always have.
This is a shitshow.
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
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Ocean just tweeted. Big yikes
Oh it's true.
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Wasn't Snake already filling a police report? She's a dumb ass becuase she didn't even use real names of the victims
because many of them are still anonymous, making the case most likely get thrown out.
I fucking hate twitter retards.
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The retard is an absolute fucking bellend.
the retard only posted shit for clout, that's why people are pissed. It's a woke retard that isn't doing anything helpful and allowing the victims
to come out when they want, now with the shit info she submitted all the the work Snake and the rest give to police might be considered a stupid online brigade or worse, the crew gets wrapped up and punished becasue they are adults, even though they aren't responsible for what Cry has done.
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this idiot hasn't even been paying attention to the situation at all
What a fucking idiot. If they really did keep up with the situation they would know Snake was working on a full list with the victims
that ACTUALLY wanted their info shared with the appropriate authorities and Ziegs 100% covered for Cry.
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Just a rando who jumped the gun. Snake already said that it didn't affect anything.
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For the love of god how can someone be so stupid and inept? https://archive.md/U0kuf
Did all of this for social behavior points on twitter.
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They're being secretive about it because majority of the victims
want to remain anonymous. Considering how much they're picked apart here I couldn't possibly fathom why.
>>998313>maybe if the ones involved weren't so secretive about something then they wouldn't have shit like this happen
Normally I would agree if Ryan got hurt or a crazy ass fan would just jump in with a shot gun and merc his ass. But this is an ex-fan who doesn't have all of the information, nor even Ryan's own address of residence.
This is in poor taste my guy, Victims
have a right to be anonymous. Now the victims
are under federal lens or at least some interests are gonna be snooping around and that's a fucking problem because victims
are actually pretty embarrassed about sending nudes or doing cyber sex towards a loser who talks in a smooth tone of voice lmao who knew?
Clearly not because they’re still doubling down on taking action on behalf of the victims
The last time someone did this, it made a victim
backpedal and private her twitter (Onion saga). Here's to hoping this retard didn't fuck up the milk with Ocean.
Half of their Twitlonger was a fucking blogpost. Self-serving bullshit.
Really hope this doesn’t jeopardise the official report Snake is planning to make. What a mess…
Funny, but the idea of mob justice is so ingrained in our internet life now that the people who knew about this don't lawyer up and take this case legally before actually revealing anything.
Cry should be punished for what he did, but by taking this to Twitter won't do anything. The internet is a child, it has a short attention spam.
Age of consent in Florida is NOT 16, it’s 18, and the Romeo and Juliet law only counts for dating with permission of parents any sexual contact is illegal it just waives the offender having to register as a sexual offender but they can be charged and imprisoned. Also no, if the victim
is 17 it counts to 21, not 23, 16/21.
It’s for 4 years age differences where the fuck do you people get 23 from?
Auri is legitimate. I believe she sent him the Discord ID, and also you can't have the same name and ID as someone on Discord, even with nitro.
Ocean is a transgender man. Cry came out as pansexual a long time ago already, and Snake and Auri have previously confirmed already that some of Cry's victims
Last question I can't answer.
I see. Thank you.>>998481
Where did they say that? I’ve been surfing the entirety of Internet for almost two solid hours, given I was late to this whole drama, and I don’t recall reading anything about taking actions toward this.
And, also one last thing, I’m not sure if this is cancel culture at this point, Cry is apparently a piece of shit from what I’m gathering on Twitter…? But still feel like people are acting as if they all have a say in this. I know, we used to be his fans and all, we have the rights to know everything but I still feel like this is a little too much. I don’t know. Maybe I’m just a little too introverted. I kinda want to stay out of all of this. Thanks again.
Completely understand the concerns about the privacy they’re keeping, in all honesty nobody had to even tweet about this stuff to begin with or continuously allude to bombshell info that ended up just being jund and the rest of the crew defending theirselves because Ryan was going to throw them under the bus in a video, the only person that had any actual weight in this is Ocean, they really mean business, this back and forth in discord and Twitter dms and threads is unnecessary, it built up excitement for people to hold on, I understand them wanting to give milk but a lot of the milk was given early before anything solid could genuinely be built from it. Everyone that talked to Ryan and getting answers from him posted him too soon when they could have gotten solid content from him, yeah he’s a dick but without context his messages wouldn’t even be understandable. Everyone is too quick for their 15 minutes of attention that they don’t ask the questions that need to be asked, get them responses that would end him 100%, and stopped him from actually saying anything and he’s probably just gonna run and never post anything at all.
Let’s be honest it would have been great for him to post that video, see what he had to say, what dirty secrets or lies he’d have spewed, and than him getting debunked publicly on his own platform.
But because everyone was so quick to get attention they blew it.
They could have ruined him by taking the video speaking from his own words and destroyed him and they ruined it.
If you want to stay out of all this dont post on this thread, common sense.
“Cancel culture this is too much”
Yeah yeah so is sending your Dick to little girls online but I guess it’s not on the same level as calling someone out about it.
Snake has a link for legal advice and action from someone strongly attached to law on his twitter, Scott has made it a point to say to victims
if they want their evidence "used" to contact him, and Ocean is compiling his snapchat logs with him talking about Cry's posting of his penis in image and video format.
They're taking legal action, but legal action isn't exactly something you can publicly talk about constantly.
Sage your shit twitternoob.
Yeah we been knowing about this bullshit for quite a while. It was one of those moments of "it's too good to be true", to be honest Cheyanne was the main indicator that something was fucking weird and fishy.
Those crimes happened a long time ago then?
Doesn't Florida has laws about not being able to press charges after some years for 1st and 2nd degree felony?
Anon, we've known about this for years, like >>998496
said, it was a rumour that started with Chey. We've known about cheating since at least 2015, too. How creepy is that shit now? It was a dam waiting to burst, but we'll see how effective the milk will be in actually punishing him past deplatforming.
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Statement from Draxr (edited the birthday stream for yt): http://archive.vn/WMf5o
Only thing really interesting is how little sense Cry's latest messages make, seems like he could barely string 2 words together.
If so, he will sooner or later hit the 'Great Wall O' Depression' and might become a danger to himself
Not that I can sympathize with him at this point.
I dont sympathise to him either, but now I think he will most likely at least try killing himself, considering of how much of a fuck up his mind is.
Honestly, even though he is one huge jerk, I hope he wont attempt hurting himself and just get off the internet so he won't be creeping around. Get nice therapy n enjoy real life. Dude's been a NEET virgin for too long. while there's still a tiny chance to somehow manage to fix your life problems, he should take it.
this brainlet really thought they were gonna be known as the hero who saved us all from ryan's sexpestery despite being some random ex-fan with nothing to do with the situation or any of the people involved, less than half of the public info, taking a giant shit on the victims
' agency, and posting it for clout. wtf is wrong with twittercels
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He changed his twitter profile pic to a burrito and removed part of his bio. Interesting.
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Was just the credit to the artist
Though I'm not sure why he wouldn't remove the "dab" while he was at it, considering.
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Which is crazy, because lately I'd peg him as more of a subway guy.
he likes girls with bigger dicks than him which are not hard to find.
Happy? i sage.
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lol i have no sympathy for angel, especially with how she treated russ
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jesus fucking christ
So he holds people emotionally hostage, what a stunning revelation.
I doubt he'll kill himself, but if he does I'm sure we'll get to watch twitter comfort themselves about how their hate mobs are just to keep people honest, and how you can't help people unless they want to help themselves. How could they have known?? >:
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It’s just looks like she deleted it early because England is in a different time zone.
But really that’s enough for someone to request a wellness check for Cry. I know Ziegs is probably bullshitting, but it’s the logical thing to do in any situation like this.
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Oh my god, either cry is a massive piece of shit for obviously lying, or Ziegs is being real fucked up and claiming some fucked up shit to cover her ass.
I'm leaning against the first bit, but honestly at this point nothing would surprise me.
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Blowing it up??? Glad to know Michaela is still on the 'pedophilia isn't that bad' train
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Of fucking COURSE she does.
She also voices that cringey ass VN.
Pic from her site, just so everyone knows this isn't a dox.https://sites.google.com/view/michaelaamandalaws/resume?authuser=0
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calling out a predator is cancel culture, apparently
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Seems like ziegs is just trying to save her own ass
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if crys business isnt her business why is she posting about it?¿ also why is she so aggressive? her tweet underneath this one says she knows of a man you will "sock" you. what¿
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"i know of a man who will legitimately fucking sock you"
holy shit what an empty threat
"its none of my business and im not going to comment on it but im commenting on it to say some of the accusations are lies. no i will not say which ones."
jesus christ shut up
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Auri literally gave video proof I–
She's completely ignoring Ocean entirely LOL
Also threatening to block people as if they give a shit
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Maybe if you'd stop constantly inserting yourself???
Grows up? He's been a grown ass man for years now. And who is she to keep someone's hands somewhere? Is she is mother? That seems to be his fetish too so she may as well be.>>999029>I know of a man who will legitimately fucking sock you
Oh god the cringe. Cry's orbiters keep displaying cow behavior. I'm hoping more of them show up so we can have a thread on their obese asses.>>999032>Only the people actually involved know
So in other words, she doesn't. Ocean was involved and would know if Cry is a pedo or not and has said that he essentially is.>>999036
If it's not your problem then stop giving your worthless opinion and shut the fuck up, fatass.
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at this point it’s safe to say she barely knows anything and is just talking out of her ass. just someone else scared to provide any hard proof.
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destroy her, ocean
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honestly yeah ocean and the moeka(seems to be some sorta person she's worked with in VA?) girl's comment sure shut her up. They were pretty clear on why she's acting like a fucking cow
orbit way more popular people and get a big head I guess jesus
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I really don’t get the logic behind this
puts herself in the situation, continues to post about even after saying she doesn’t care and it isn’t her business, acts like a bitch towards people who are asking her simple questions, and then has to have her boyfriend tweet for her because she’s too emotional over something she started. how stupid. i’m glad she’s gone.
i’m just so confused as to why she even started talking in the first place? she’s not been vocal about the situation up until this point and she only spoke up now to defend against ziegs’ random ass tweet that was almost immediately deleted. something feels weird about this.
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kinda have anxiety towards this but I wanted to share my recount as a kid.
No real milk cause I deleted my tumblr years ago, but when I was in highschool I used to draw crycest / cryaotic cringy art. I drew clifford the big red cry, dark!cry and himself, things that would happen in the streams. It was a lot of weird stuff be he always encouraged it when he saw me post in chat. He'd reblog it on tumblr, and comment often, usually something weirdly sexual for me, a teenager. Had a few messages from him because I was in his LNC skype once. I had messaged BStar before bed, saying it was a school night and I hope he and everyone rest well. Then I got a LNC call invite and I was freaked out. But back then, I was beyond excited. It was a good chat, super friendly, but then I talked about how I was lesbian (didn't understand sexuality then but was confused by trauma) and how I would date him even though "I don't like men." He was all giddy, made his voice deep and spoke back to me. Don't remember what he said just how it made my teenage heart feel. We all said our good nights and that was that. Then I messaged him on tumblr, asked what art he wanted, cause I was infatuated with this man. He wanted him and BattleStar drawn as … octopi. I also vaguely remember drawing fem!cry too, it's been ages though. I also remember asking him about sexual art and if he was comfy with it. He said yeah but his "girlfriend didn't like it so he didn't reblog it often."
This is some of the art I could find but the years are way off because they are from way back machine. Just wanted to recount how creepy he was to me and my art at my young age, sorry for nothing solid from him. wish I hadn't deleted.
Seeing all this stuff about cry really brought up some wild memories of him; how friendly and welcoming he was, how he was such a large part of my childhood. And here we are. Whack as fuck. Makes me uncomfortable, and wonder how far he would have gone if we kept talking when I was 15. Freaky as fuck, but I ended up groomed later on in life.(Blog)
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actually she made a post about it on twitter a while ago. dated 6/21/20. should i post all three slides of pictures or link the tweet itself?
Sorry I deleted, I was freaked out cause I only lurk usually.
But yeah, that was me. he had said something about loving a nice pair of tits.
All I can say really is, lol. What a shame if we lose this guy.>>999011
"When he was younger" is such a stupid added line when him being younger literally doesn't matter since he was 23. This bitch needs to stop sipping the kool-aid.
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thats all of it. my opinion: garbage statement.
To be fair she did blackmail him with the whole fucking minors online thing so that she could stick around for a paycheck
At that point they were dating in name but he noped out of the relationship mentally
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Ah yes I'm sure he'll learn and grow even though he's over 30 and has been grooming minors and brain dead adults for near a decade
God this sounds like every other braindead fangirl reply on twitter saying how good he is for acknowledging and how this is a moment of learning and how people need to support him so he can change.
I just assumed it to be mainly how his dumb uwu baka persona resonates with a more naive teenage mind but damn, this is a grown ass woman. Still implying this man doesn't know what he's doing or the consequences of those actions.
Oh oopsie woopsie big fucky wucky wow what a good learning opportunity
Good on Ocean. She really needs to shut the fuck up when she is neither directly involved or a victim
like the others.>>999078
I remember Cry always actively encouraged fanart of his online persona and so much. It all makes sense now that he's a creep that hits on underage girls.
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Please, God, tell me she's going to cry "hackerz". please.
Ziegs, I feel like the police shouldve been contacted a LONG time ago.
I remember him on stream talking about how cheap it was to buy shotguns and he even looked up prices after he was playing a game and really liked the shotgun in it
It was a way long time ago, and I don't remember if he actually ordered one but I wouldn't be surprised if he had one or two guns given his fascination.
Not that him having a gun even matters, like, if he's suicidal the dude will find other ways to kill himself even without a gun, guys.
Nah, that I won't agree on. You gotta be pretty fucking dedicated to kill yourself in mostly every other way. Having a gun is basically having it available at the press of a button.
Not that even if he has a gun and would tweet it out himself, I'd believe him at this point. He's clearly an emotional manipuator.
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Coyote yeah, Ziegs not really. There's absolutely no justification for telling a victim
of a pedo that they need to be quiet to protect the pedo.
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Except Coyote said she KNEW about the minor. Even if she wasn't allowed to say anything she kept making Chey look like the only bad guy. Chey was an asshole yes, but Coyote knew the truth and still attacked Cheyenne to her very big audience. And here's the reference again in case u missed it from the previous thread
Because the last few threads have been absolute garbage OPs, let's do a BIG recap. If I'm missing anything please add on and maybe the next person who makes a thread will fucking post this and not just a picture of Cry's default pic titled "Cryaotic thread".
Before this all went public:
Jund leaves the LNC stream early one night after Cry flips out on him for not enjoying a SJW furry visual novel.https://www.twitch.tv/videos/650209950?t=00h55m42s
Cry goes manic on a privated streamhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Lf0_RFFLPQ
TiaBeanie (Previously went by the name Sakunora in the Cryaotic tumblr fandom) posts on Twitter about her experiences with a "Content Creator". Very quickly the content creator is revealed to be Cry himself.http://archive.vn/g9oph
Cryoatic (accidentally) admits to grooming underaged girls in a youtube video that no one asked for, probably prompted by Tia's post. https://youtu.be/H4E5B0-8q2E
Realizes soon after, he fucked up. Posts a statement on Twitter saying he made it in a manic state, and regrets it. Asks everyone to give him a few days.https://archive.vn/GMuT3
After seeing his video, the LNC refuse streaming the show for that night.
In the LNC private Discord chat, Russ confronts Cry about him cheating with Red, and stealing Angel from him and turning her against him. Cry refuses to apologize.
Cheyenne revels about him admitting it on Twitter. Accuses the LNC boys of knowing he cheated on her with a minor. https://archive.vn/NAPjU
Wit posts on Twitter about how they knew Cry was shady and called it two years ago: https://archive.vn/PqWw9
Ocean returns: https://archive.vn/gQRTx
Angel posts on Twitter that she has cut ties with Cry. https://archive.vn/y0Y5r
Jund streams the next day to try and unwind, people ask questions about what is going on.
-Scott knew he had sexual texts with a 16 year old years ago, he confronted Cry about it saying it was creepy and Cry lied to him and told him he stopped.
-Ziegs said in chat none of them knew it continued to happen and thought it was a one off occurrence.
-Scott says Cry has been acting very weird the past few weeks, might be because of new medication he is on or something.
-Scott says Cry did not tell any of them about the video and they all got blind sided by the upload like everyone else.
-Scott knew Cry had got Red to cheat on Russ, but he had let Russ make the decision to stay or not because he felt it wasn't his place.
-Scott says they (The LNC) have removed cry from LNC. He mentions they will probably start a new show without Cry, but they need to work stuff out.
Shortly after Scott starts streaming, Cry posts this statement on Twitter. Proceeds to stay silent for a week (so far) but continues to play games on steam.https://archive.vn/MVp9F
Cheyenne continues to lie and attack the LNC, saying they KNEW that Cheyenne was underaged despite her telling them for years that the relationship was legal.https://archive.vn/aFu8X
Posts a screenshot of Cry telling her he loved her when she was only 16.https://archive.vn/zfJ4q
Coyotemation returns, and unprivates the “In The Room” video.
Zieg’s makes a Twitter thread saying she & the crew were aware of creepy messages, but they thought it had stopped after that one occurrence.https://lolcow.farm/snow/src/1592785278740.jpg
Lolcow anon Auri creates a Twitter thread and posts her story & proof.https://archive.vn/bpWGehttps://archive.vn/4MJrB
Too many links to post, her Twitter is still up and also archived here: >>>/snow/991718
Cheyenne and Coyote go into a huge Twitter fight after Coyote unprivates the video.
Cheyenne bullied Coyote into reprivating the “In the Room” video based on it “making her want to kill herself”. Too long to archive all so here is the part in the thread with screencaps:>>>/snow/991541
The BIGGEST milk out of this Twitter fight:
Coyote reveals that she knew Ocean was underaged.https://lolcow.farm/snow/src/1593045519723.jpg
Coyote also reveals that Cheyenne was blackmailing Cry with this information to stay on the stream and get more money.https://lolcow.farm/snow/src/1592845042398.png
Shortly after Coyote deleted fucking everything and leaves Twitter.
Snake does his stream to address things from his side.
-Snake knew Cry cheated on Cheyenne, and who it was with because that person was not allowed to return. He did not know details (like age) about said person.
-Snake had read the lolcow threads about Cheyenne and Sage before, but did not read the whole thing and only saw people dogpiling Chey & Sage.
-”I don’t know how explicit I want to be just because it’s not my story to tell. But I will say that the acts that Cry performed were absolutely illegal.”``
-Cheyenne told the crew that her and Cry dating was legal and they didn’t question it after that.
-He didn’t leave after Cry cheated because “you don’t quit your job because your boss cheats on their significant other. You do your job and you don’t deal with that person.”
-Cry cheated on Cheyenne with Red as well as Ocean
-Snake was given info that the most recent inappropriate activity Cry did was 2 days before he posted his video.
Sage accused Scott Jund of abusing her and then privates her Twitter account. She did not explain ANY info or post any proof.https://twitter.com/littlelilacleaf
Cheyenne makes up lies about Jund threatening her, does not post proof “Because steam doesn’t save chat logs” and never mentions it again.https://archive.vn/ps8gk
Auri streams to discuss with people. Twitch laters removed the VOD? Only the first hour of the stream is transcripted.http://archive.md/Winp0
Snake posts on Twitter that he is in contact with someone who can legally help any victims
, and offers to connect victims
who come forward.https://archive.vn/zvcUP
Russ posts a tweet finally addressing Red's cheating. Explains what happened with Angel and what he knew about Cheyenne & Ocean.https://archive.is/20200624193621/https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sr9mg5
Shortly after Russ's tweet, Angel posts a Twitlonger about Russ & that she is sorry for what she's done.https://archive.vn/WHOOT
Russ then goes live
Ziegs continues to respond to people on Twitter claiming she didn’t know Ocean was underaged.http://web.archive.org/web/20200623181013/https:/twitter.com/Ziegsden/status/1275483750143537152
Ocean proceeds to post proof that not only did Ziegs know Ocean was a child, but Ziegs also told Ocean to stay silent or they would face repercussions. http://archive.ph/R64Hk
Ziegs sent Beanie a message saying ALL of the crew knew, Snake shuts this down by posting a Discord chat he had with her a few days ago of her lying to him saying she didn’t know either.https://archive.vn/vJRzP
Auri streams for the second time. Cry messaging her during this time.
Beckens come out and says she is the girl Cry was sending messages to 2 days before releasing his video. Has been in a “flirting” relationship with Cry for the past 11 months.https://archive.vn/8hlLU
Maizilla comes out against Cry saying she was also groomed (as an adult)http://archive.ph/X9pfG
Beckens accuses Auri of faking screenshots (Probably on behalf of Cry.)https://archive.vn/4UZIv
Scott posts a big info dump on Cry, including proof from victims
that gave the okay for him to publicize this.http://archive.md/6Dgmk
Oceans claims ownership of the 1st, 7th, 9th and 13th pictures in Scott’s post.https://archive.vn/kyaZx
Snake posts a twitlonger, he will be sending all the info that comes from victims
who come forward and contact all the platforms Cry is on.http://archive.md/1XSvn
Chris brings up concerns to Jund stating that Cry is claiming he has no idea who Auri is. Jund asks Auri for proof.http://archive.vn/TdwiC
Auri provides proofhttps://twitter.com/ScottJund/status/1276300873098985472http://archive.md/SeLvN
Magnta says that her a Cry were “Fuckbuddies”https://lolcow.farm/snow/src/1593147995676.png
Tori comes forward and says she knows another underaged victim
, but they will come out publicly on their own time. She then posts a dm the victim
has of Cry talking to her acknowledging their age.http://archive.vn/eIpht
Chris posts more screenshots of Cry being an asshole on Twitterhttps://twitter.com/heychrisfox/with_replies
CinnamonToastKen says he isn’t surprised about this stuff coming out about Cry.https://www.twitch.tv/videos/662161647?t=4h39m42s
Anon on lolcow posts a screenshot between Cheyenne and Cry, with them colluding to frame the guys for knowing something they did not know.
Cheyenne is actively working with her abuser to try and get innocent people in trouble.https://archive.vn/FbFN9
Auri gets doxxed, nopes out.
Ocean requests a copy of his data from Snapchat, that contains more incriminating evidence against Cry.
Auri comes back, found out who doxxed her. Was someone she knew irl who is a fan of Crys.https://lolcow.farm/snow/src/1593198411902.jpg
Magnta posts screenshots of her asking Cry about his inappropriate relationships.https://archive.vn/7Wn3khttp://archive.vn/RWcSn
Chris confirms there are ~18 people so far.http://archive.vn/Y4t64
Ziegsden finally responds, on tumblr (Archive is from another tumblr because you have to be logged in to see Zieg’s posts)https://archive.vn/sDYcJ
No word from Cry even though this was the supposed deadline for him to come forward.
Ocean clearly confirms that Cry sent him pictures and video of his penis while knowing Ocean was underaged.http://archive.vn/CRZrq
Lucius comes out as another FWB of Cry’s.
Some idiot comes out admitting to reporting Cry to authorities when she clearly doesn’t know the full situation, has NOT contacted the victims
, and tries to get the hashtags #cryaoticiscancelled and #cryaotic trendinghttp://archive.vn/KXJQX
Within a few hours deletes the post.
Draxr comes out with a statementhttp://archive.vn/M0Gw0
Ziegs unlocks her account for one minutes, posts a tweet saying Cry is suicidal with a shotgun, and then deletes her Twitter and tumblr accounts.https://lolcow.farm/snow/src/1593491443391.png
Cringey fat voice actor and known pedo supporter Michaela Law says that Cry is fine and does not own a firearm. She continues posting telling people to fuck off, read a book, and threatens to block them. Claims Auri is a liar. As soon as Ocean responds to her she “freaks out” and her “boyfriend” takes away her phone.
Michaela confirms Cry is okay: http://archive.vn/UIwqb
Random example of her bullshit: http://archive.vn/j2qFt
Ocean’s tweet: http://archive.vn/BadIy
“Boyfriend” steps in: http://archive.vn/Q8Dqp
Ziegs returns claiming to have been hacked.https://lolcow.farm/snow/src/1593539557146.png
Now waiting for more milk.
Last Snake knew, there were 14 people involved. Last Chris knew, there were 18.
List of confirmed who we know involved romantically/sexually involved with Cry:
Tori’s friend (Underaged)
The people in question:
Ryan Terry (Cryaotic) "31 year old groomer"
Former LNC members:
The actual worst kind of people:
Cheyenne "I SLEPT WITH A YOUTUBER AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS STUPID BLOG."
Ziegsden "Cover up the actual child predator so I still have a job" “I don’t get enough credit”
(nuked) Twitter: https://twitter.com/ziegsden?lang=en
(nuked) Tumblr: https://ziegsden.tumblr.com/
People who have come forward publically with evidence:
Others involved in this mess:
Angel "I'm sof uwu and hungry for clout"
Link tree: https://linktr.ee/magnta555
NSFW Twitter (FOR YOUR OWN SAFETY DON’T CLICK): https://twitter.com/lewdkens?lang=en
Oh, thanks for the Ken link. I was hoping he'd of said something, but must have missed that.
Whoever makes the next thread, if there is one, please don't fucking newfag and miss this. It's long, but I'd rather a long copy-paste than the shit we've been having.
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From Michaela's twitter. Whose side is she on, exactly??
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so she's singling out Auri… why?
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still won't mention Auri or apologize, okay then
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This is the bitch that’s riding Ryan’s coat tail, you’d expect her to be skinny like her avatar.
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She’s going on stream after ignoring everyone confronting her on claiming Auri is a liar without proof
"(our) concerns are valid
"I don't know what's going on"
"I will happily write an apology"
Change of plans, private DM to Auri and public apology later.
This has more twists than pre-season 4 GOT. /s
Probably because Cry did too. Beckens did as well so my assumption is that he's feeding them a bag of his bullshit to eat and they're gobbling it right up like jealous whores. She sure as fuck keeps ignoring Ocean calling her out, too.>>999661
Doubtful, if she did then she wouldn't keep screaming "muh opinion". Neither she nor Beckens have shown any proof but Auri did.>>999733
I mean, Cry is an unattractive fatty so it makes sense that the only ones defending him are also unattractive fatties.
Don't be lazy.
Just google Michaela wa twitch and you will find it.
She is live right now talking about what what happen.(imageboard)
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Auri's tapping out
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According to Scott there’s no real reason to doubt Auri. She may have tried to turn this whole thing into a cash grab but I’m leaning more towards believing her than doubting her.
For that to be a thing i can only imagine that things are not going well for the LNC on the legal side of things.
Jund also commented on being stressed over the legality of it all.
If you’re gonna claim she’s a liar actually show proof
But none of you ever do, it’s just empty slanderous statements
Auri has already shown proof that she's telling the truth. Despite Jund repeatedly saying that she has, it's the whiteknights and vendetta-chans that won't believe it but also won't back up anything that they're saying. Because Auri made money from it, she's a terrible person, but Russ got money from the situation too and he peaced out. There seems to be a lot of double standards.>>999840
It's stressful for everyone who has had to suffer the consequences of Cry's actions. Ocean seems to be the only one not willing to back down which is great cause there's hope that the pedo won't get away with all of it.
Russ got money off of it becuase he lost his fucking job lmao what is that double standards take?
The fucker lost his main source of income for a long period of time and then he noped out because he had an actual reason via mental illness.
I would be a bit distraught and having a fucking anxiety break down if my paycheck just got burnt up because my boss is a pedophile fuck.
The guy even got cucked and had to lower his head to keep his income or go back to the crackhouse that was his parents place.
And even Jaund doubt Auri in the beginning. there is clearly some redflags there.
Even if she is not lying, something about her is clearly off.
It is. She's been saying it for a week or so now but people are still surprised by it.>>999901
This. She hasn't delivered any milk since her first stream. Ocean is the only one delivering milk at this point.
Yeah, and I don't think he's a hypochondriac (which is what Sage said), at least not completely. Hypochondriacs are convinced that they have life threatening illnesses, not just that they feel shitty most of the time and don't know why. He's mentioned that he's fairly obsessive compulsive, and anxiety issues like that can causes physical issues due to the stress. Chronic issues are really hard to diagnosis, and it's probably not something obvious. Anyway, there probably won't be any milk for a while, since any legal proceedings will take time and probably remain private for even longer.>>1000222
No, they're understandably trying to have normal streams where they don't have to focus on it.
After reading this I can only imagine how swiftly everything would’ve gone if the victims
just grouped together in private, compiled all the stories and evidence and then took legal actions.
But no, everthing has to be on twitter first, what a shame.
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Michaela issued an awful apology and said she would stop getting involved http://archive.vn/d8Wwr
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Archived copy: http://archive.vn/OuU1n
Wow Cry is extremely cringey. I'm shocked this works with any adults
I don't see the specific timeline of this one but by any account it's still very fucked for someone around thirty to creep on someone around 18 especially in an incredibly skewed relationship like fan/e-celeb
Just cause it's not illegal doesn't mean it's not reprehensible
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This is the funniest shit I've read in a while. Thanks anon.>>1000369
I guess it's to show how much of a creep he was to pretty much everyone. He couldn't keep his e-dick put away for longer than five seconds and that's on a serious effort day. It doesn't seem like anyone was safe from his sexual harassment. The one who he was e-molesting said that they were really uncomfortable with Cry's rp stuff at times.
According to the same authors statement he made contact with cry when when he was a minor and the flirted back and forth
If THIS is how cry RPs.. makes me wonder whether hes just not coming forth as another underage victims
due to lack of evidence, he said something about deleting everything pre2013 over concerns of Crys privacy and 'paranoia', dont know what about but would make sense if he was underage and knew their dialogues were incriminating
Considering they were still a minor in 2013 but is 18+ in 2015, assuming they turned 18 in 2015, thats dangerously close age wise to the other victims
Yeah, she knew what she was doing. And it's as if Auri needed any more motivation to go silent.
THIS is why people who've been targets of grooming never come out with their stories. Shitheads like her want to scrutinize every little detail and consider her a cash-grabber when she (in my opinion) didn't even do anything to deserve that level of scrutiny.
will be seen as less believable" my ass. Michaela has become the very thing she was fighting against.
For the record >>998227
was a joke, I'm nobody relevant.
To be fair to cry on this, I actually think the guy reciprocated completely. Especially with the fact that he's hiding his messages and only focusing on cry's.
This revealing just comes across as ingenuine to me… Unlike the others we've had so far.
Don't get me wrong though, it does emphasize that that cry is surely a sex addict, and massive cheater.
We call him a sex addict, but in reality, the dude has been sitting in his basement touching himself. All alone. For over a decade.
He might be physically incapable of having sex because he can't get or stay hard unless he's doing this. Porn addiction turns dicks limp. I wonder if Cheyenne would spill the deets.
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she’s too busy changing her bio every other day to be able to give us some milk. Which speaking of, Cheyenne and her gf have removed each-others names out of their bios. Y’all think maybe Christine saw Cheyenne working with Cry and noped the hell out of there?
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>Inb4 cry face reveal
Give or take a few hundred pounds
Agreed. He does say that 90% of their conversations were roleplaying and that he participated in it. He is trying to frame his encounters with Cry as something negative and wrong (probably out of shame, because RPing like this is cringy), but his story basically says that this was a consensual relationship between two adults. He played along and never brought it up in a negative way. So why exactly should this be on the masterlist?
Even his argument about the screenshot in >>1000410
doesn’t make sense. This is just RPing/porn fic 101. If this reminds him of something bad, he should’ve tried leaving the situation or bringing it up if necessary. It is likely that in this consensual, sexual RPing relationship Cyr did not realize he was overstepping a boundary and it would have been possible to say "This triggers
Not saying anything about it and then using a non-issue to cancel him later by blowing it out of proportion is shady. I also think that nonsense like this takes away the spotlight from actual victims
He tries framing the situation in a certain way by randomly inserting his past sexual trauma into it and making weird implications like > what I thought were "positive", consensual interactions
He does say that he is not a victim
, but he sure makes it sound like he is one kek. Imo it does not help the cause and it is very different from being an underaged fan that is being groomed into sexual acts. Denouncing Cry because of him having a consensual, sexual relationship with an adult fan doesn’t make sense.
He already said that he's not a victim
. It doesn't take away from them at all either because it's just one more account of Cry being a cringy e-sex addict.>>1000751>Imo it does not help the cause
So what? It's still funny.
Nope anon, apparently he can only be one of those things.>>1000764
Whiteknighting for who? Cause I said the cringe was funny? Take a nap anon, it's not that serious.
This is a joke.
you can't groom an adult.
By 18 you should have the ability to say yes or no and that is it.
NTAYRT, but I also would not call the case that was discussed earlier as "adult grooming". Agreeing that adult grooming can be a thing, but it is not what happened in >>1000740
and trying to cancel someone for consensual sexual interactions is just as cringy as those embarrassing roleplaying screenshots. This is in no way adult grooming, but a situation where literally nothing bad happened and the OP could have just said "no" or, even better, could have stopped writing cringy roleplay shit himself.
Fair point: People are fucking dumb. but by 18 years old you are considered to be capable of making your own adult decisions. (Assuming no mental retardation problems, of course)
If you consent to something stupid but legal, that is on you. Don't cry victim
for being dumb.>>1000943
That is not the definition of grooming. grooming is making friends with the familly of/a minor to gain their trust and eventually have illegal sex with them.
If i offer 1k to a 18 old dude for sex and he says
yes, its consensual prostitution.
If i convince some 19 old college kid that i totally love him and not just want a quick lay and he bites, its called being a bitch and a liar.
Not grooming. Or rape.
Don't cry Rape at your bad tinder date.>>1000975
You can be a sex addict and still not be a rapist or a disgusting pedo. Being overly sexual with a consenting adult is just annoying at best. if not for the other evidence this would be meaningless.
Also, was him a minor when he started? Was he not?
this cow is contradicting herself.
Are you retarded or just cant read? OP has never claimed to have been groomed or was a victim
or 'cry rape/victim
' and made abundantly clear things are just for context, holy fuck.
Op was hit on in the same way when he was a minor which carried onto adulthood where he began to reciprocate, thats the important part
I can't really agree to this.
If he never had contact with the person, he cannot be blamed for the person stupidity of wanting to give him attention after they turned 18.
If the groopie is 18+, the groopie is a consensual adult by law.
My confusion is: He puts on his statement that he is not a victim
and was not groomed, but by the end off >>1000975
he says they flirted when he was a minor. witch is 100% a crime in florida, by the way.
How do you not get that explicitly targeting fans, especially young ones, creates an inappropriate power dynamic? If this was just about sex it would be very easy for him to find shitty rp sex anonymously on any of the dozens of forums for that exact thing, but instead he chose to engage with fans in that manner repeatedly because he liked the extra attention he got from them treating him like he was special.
If you're a celebrity, or for the sake of example an e-celebrity like a streamer or something, and some crazy fan is like "omg I love you so much I didn't pay my rent this month so I could donate $1500" you still have a responsibility to be like "Hey, don't fucking do that." Sure they chose to donate but that doesn't mean you have to enable their bad decision, even if it would be totally legal for you to keep the money. It's about morality.
this is why actual celebrities generally don't date/have sexual contact with their fans. the other person being a fan inherently skews the relationship.
there's a dynamic that makes the fan unlikely to say no to anything, and a good chance that years down the line fan is going to wake up and realise they were starstruck the whole time and only agreed because of that, then boom.
that's why this shit is weird even if the fan is 18+. cry's ~status~ in their heads still affects their likelihood of reciprocating. was it ultimately their decision to reciprocate? yes. but did cry abuse his fans' higher likelihood to agreeing to sexual contact with him because he's a fat basement dweller who normie women and men would never fuck? also yes.
He says he doesnt 'consider himself a victim
', important distinction
Also not sure if relevant, but UK age of consent is 16. Op is from the UK last time I checked, so my guess is he cant claim Crys done anything illegal from his perspective?
This is just one person's perspective out of, what, the fucking 30 plus fucking fans he had sexual contact with? Can we stop acting like what Cry did was okay?
Also have we forgotten that he HAS sent pictures and videos of his dick to a minor? Jesus christ. Stop focusing on ONE DUDE who was just giving some examples of how Cry acts.
Countries that have lower consent ages tend to have better sexual education than the US, So its probably that. Kids learn much earlier and much better what and how to avoid, use protection, responsibility,How to not fuck up one time things by getting pregnant. They basically become adults earlier.
OP did not sounded traumatized or hurt by what happened if not by the
"Fuck i flirted with a Pedo" moment and how disappointed everybody is on Cryian.>>1001014
Your exemple and what happened are not the same.
If someone donate a lot of money to the streamer and tell them that they have no money, Yes, the streamer will tell them not to do that, but most likely keep the money. they have no moral obligation of cover someone else's bad life decisions.
If the groopie goes to fuck the celebrity, All they need to do is say "Are you sure?" If they say yes that is it. You are an adult.
You know what you are doing. stop trying to dodge your responsibility. Fans are not mindless zombies. They know what they are doing. They are fucking adults.
He is also not your boss or any sort of authority. You cannot have a weird power dynamic with someone that has no power over you.
Cry's is an asshole because he is seducing people that ARE NOT capable of knowing what they are doing. even if he is doing like Jund and OP said of just trying to fuck anything that gives him the time of day, that is still resulting on him being sexual towards US minors that do not know the correct end of a condom.
He needs Jail time.
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This is like the 3rd time she's changed her bio, despite never posting or addressing the fact she was trying to collude with Cry to implicate Russ, Jund and Snake despite Ocean already confirming they didn't know he was underage.
Didn't take you for a coward, Cheyenne. You always ran your mouth before.
There are always power imbalances between fan relationships and creators. Like anon said above me, the "high" of getting attention from someone like that will make people say yes to things they might not be comfortable with. Add in the fact that when you're a minor you're brain literally isn't developed enough to make good choices and the question isn't "were they that naive?" Its was Cry that naive to believe that they were on the same playing field mentally doing all this as a grown man? He knew what he was doing was wrong. He knew that he could get away with his behavior because they were young and stupid.
When there's thousands of people you can choose from your own age to date why go for your underage fans? Because they're easy to manipulate and probably won't even know what you're doing to them is fucked up until they mature but by then its usually too late.
Adult women are in a whole other playing field than teenagers. Most wouldnt be willing to put up with a sexpest BF and most could see through the red flags of sexual manipulation. Dudes like Cry would rather just take the "easy" route and take advantage of that immaturity and insecurity teen girls have.
"the ghost of the opera" She wishes she was Erik, she's really just Carlotta.>>1001091
Teenagers having sex with other teenagers is different than a teenager having sex with a fully grown 22+ year old. Let teenagers fuck each other, whatever, but ADULTS should not be fucking them.
Sex Ed in united stated is as pathetic as any of cry's possible excuses for what he did.
Us treats teens as kids, and it shows when they are way past their age of consent but breakdown and are traumatized for ever at their first bad tinder date.
Or, you know. The prolific teen pregnancy problem. that just does not happen on places with a lower age of consent but much better sex ed.>>1001131
The point is that you cannot have a power imbalance on someone that does not pay your bills or is not your authority. Any power play resulting of that is consensual and willing. Some people do get off on having sex with their idols but if they are of age, they know what they are doing. They are not brainless.
Cry is despicable for going after people that are not mentally ready to be able to consent, But don't full yourself. it has nothing to do with brain development about that age. Is about sexual education and culture. Compare to other places, US infantilizes teens, making them mature latter.
But if in the us a 17 old is a child in the us, then Cry needs to go to jail for pedofilia. He could have done that with any consensual adult, but he could not hold his dick back and harmed children. this caw needs to go to the slaughter.
>hur hur bad sex ed is the reason why this is happening
No; it's because literally creepy ass old men are going after naive kids. Naivety is a byproduct of having kids, it's what makes kids so pure and happy. And just because it's a federal age law of consent, doesn't mean you fucking should do it lmao
What is with these bad takes my guy?
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it changed again. Stop vague bio tweeting and stay off Twitter, Chey
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the fact idolised this man as a little girl sickens me.
came forward - someone who knew cry before he was big on YouTube http://archive.today/Gk74I(imageboard)
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>>1001251>you cannot have a power imbalance on someone that does not pay your bills or is not your authority
you heard the pedo, lads! pedophilia is only real if the pedo is his victims
' parent or teacher lmfao
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posting these here so all the bases are covered: latest victim’s discord conversation with cry
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and her reddit conversation with him (1)
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If being awkward/an asshole concerning sexual matters was a crime, every human being from 12 and up would be in jail.
Besides, what he did is, in fact, what some people do in sexual relationships. The man be cringe but, in this case, it's fucking clout chasing again (or just severe immaturity).
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but anon, don't you know that no one has to take responsibility for themselves and EVERYONE is a victim
, no exceptions? I don't know if some of these are trauma so much as shame and regret for getting played by an ugly fuck whom they once idolized.
>there's really no point to come out and say this.
This post, if anything, is reinforcing the claims that many have made over the past few weeks.
someone: cryaotic took advantage of me and these people's stories need to be heard and legal actions should be taken.
anons: omg baseless claim, no evidence, show milk or get doxxed cowvictims
: step forward to share their stories, provide a bit of milk, standing together to reinforce each others' claims about a gross man using his youtube fame to take advantage of underage girls
you: wow. no point in this post. why even come forward.
honestly, did you even read the screenshots?>>1002111
Where have any of these victims
NOT taken responsibility for themselves? It seems like every other sentence in their stories is "maybe I was young and stupid," "i know now i shouldnt have egged him on/RP'd with him" etc etc.
countless posters agreed and have proof this is the fucking case. if somebody was trying to tell you that, maybe you should respond to those comments instead of using this thread like twitter to moralfag your opinions on 9 threads of evidence. sure, some people are wallowing in sorrows, but youd be blind to pretend cry hasnt spent this time doing the exact same thing in regards to his own behaviour. to ignore power dynamics in relationships involving public figures is stupid and biased against "actual victims
Therapists are outdated Anon, the last few months have clearly established Twitter and TwitLonger as the new modern methods of mental healing.
FFS, get in with the times boomer /s
Almost every single victim
that has come out throughout this whole process HAS taken responsibility for their part. Nearly all of them have said something akin to “I shouldn’t have encouraged him or sought out his attention”. They have already claimed their part. Cry hasn’t and that’s the issue, that’s why more and more people are adding to the claims.
He has shown a pattern of abuse and manipulation. The victims
and other people posting their experiences with him are just affirming that this is who he is and what he does.
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No you've got it all wrong guys. She's now answering to a higher authority; clearly she's found Jesus.
And right she is, what better way to collude with a child predator than with the aid of the Catholic church.
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watch out guys
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Auri: I'm stepping down for a bit guys
That didn't last all too long.
>YOU CANT BE BY MY SIDE IF YOURE TEARING INTO OTHER VICTIMS
Bitch fuck off, not all victims
here are sweet angels like you lmao. Read the fucking room. Fuck me Cheyenne even was blackmailing fuckers to be around.
When you take a break; it's normally a month or so. Especially if you're dealing with an abusing manipulative monster like Cryaotic. So no it's not really that rare to get a bit cynical about how long a supposed victim
leaving and then come back out of no where.
Especially when the said victim
had donations for her QnA stream. So take that as you will from that note.
There's no guide on how to react to situations like this. Some need time out of the internet to feel better. Some need to keep their schedules as if nothing has happened. Some just need to have a 5 day break.
Not everyone reacts the same. Let her do what makes her feel better on her own way.
no confirmed victims
? so the ocean logs aren't enough for you lmao?
I meant no confirmed victims
involved with the charity stream, not that there weren't any confirmed victims
The recent girl in this thread that knew cry before fame kind of confirms that he didn’t just keep things online, it became a physical thing, same with Cheyenne, and Beckens when she admitted she got sexual with him a few days before he exposed himself.
I’m 100% sure there’s plenty of others, he isn’t just satisfied from online sex, it turns into a real thing eventually with some of the people that he builds loyalty with. I don’t think he’s into it just for sex and random hook ups, it’s more like he enjoys the whole act of luring them in, romancing them, contacting them for night time sexting while he’s in relationships, than getting them to do everything and anything he ask for
He’s definitely into moral degeneration. This also explains why he tends to juggle multiple at a time, only a handful take them bait the others eventually get tired and stop replying.
Okay, who cares, we can stop defending her too, Jesus Christ. It doesn't matter. She also doesn't need a team of white knights in here, you guys are annoying.
Both sides of you guys are retards.
Head pat? What are you? Fucking 10? Grow the fuck up.
I am all up for critiquing people's behaviors but when it comes to this kind of abuse… Let them be. Except Cheyenne. Fuck her
are we forgetting she made an entirely new persona to come forward with her story safely?
She was a streamer before this current account shes using, she set up paypal for the sole reason of pity donations.
Wait, I didn't actually know this. She's a streamer? Why is she accepting donations at all under her Auri pseudonym then? Why is she even creating a community under this name, if she's a streamer with, I'm assuming, a community with her own already? Is she multitasking two streaming communities? What's the goal here with that, then?
That's actually extremely strange.
I'm not going to doxx her, someone did post her original username in previous threads if you care to look.
TLDR, she had a dead community (i think she deleted her old accounts now) and was trying her best to be a typical streamer, she bought 10k followers to look as if she was somewhat "known".
I understand creating a persona when you're coming forward with sensitive info about yourself, that i'm fine with. I'm not fine with her trying to create a community around an account that should have just been a throw away, as well as to make a brand new twitch account with donation buttons etc.
Who honestly cares?
I don't get why everyone is so obsessed with Auri, just make a thread on her if you're all so invested in her.
Anon I don't know how the fuck you got that they physically fucked from that, Beckens lives in California if you did any semblance of research. And people who fuck irl dont message each other on reddit sorry to burst your bubble.
All the pussy Cry gets is entirely online except for the one case of Cheyenne who pretty much forced him to let her visit. The dude is an awkward beta who doesn't like irl interactions and luves his power fantasy through Skype roleplay.
Actually he said he didn't
know about the drama, heard rumors about allegations that he didn’t look into. Started watching Cry’s video and mocked how vague and dragged it sounds then closed the window coz clearly there’s nothing there.
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Seems Russ will start streaming again tomorrow.https://twitter.com/Russ_Money/status/1281016058426654720
>inb4 anons start complaining 2 weeks isn't a long enough break
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Snake confirms authorities haven't done anything these past two weeks.http://archive.md/GmLCp
Twitch would care about twitch's reputation.
I just can't see why they wouldn't take action otherwise unless maybe someone high up likes cry.
As for police/fbi. They usually sit on their hands a while before doing anything so that would be expected…
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ah weird that it looks the same for you.
I hate his bitmoji.
Doesn't fit his MO. Cry's whole shit spiel is that he wants people to feel sorry for him or at least see that he's a victim
of his own mental anguish. But he's at least self-aware to understand that if he dies then the victims
would never get their justice and a lot of his shit would had been for naught.
Honestly, it's pretty unlikely he offed himself. Ziegs was the only lnc member suggesting he was suicidal and we all know how reliable she is. If snapchat anon can prove that they still see his score going up, then it's a pretty safe bet that he's still just hiding. >>1005487
Show proof or stop baiting. This situation is fucked up enough without someone spreading death rumors.
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Not the original anon. First screenshot is from July 8th, second is a few minutes ago.
rofl yes of course, why don't the feds just read these threads in one night and start busting down doors in the morning?
I'm not quite sure what they were expecting… it's only twitter that froths over and then dissolves instantly the people they deem guilty
it'll be a long time yet, if ever; interviews to conduct, evidence to gather, etc.
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Auri received an email saying that cry killed himself.
to me it just seems a bunch of people trying to convince everyone that cry an hero'd, but idk
lol @ this samefag commenting here and emailing the same phrase to everyone
also, if he did commit suicide, the world would have one less predator
Look, I'm not defending him or what he's done… But it is 100% okay for people to have complicated feelings about things. It is normal and okay to feel sad, to feel regret, to even wish none of this had happened so we could continue being ignorant.
It is okay to want to see him face legal consequences without also
wishing death on him. It is okay to want to see someone grow into a better person– or at least have the chance to do so. It is okay to NOT want him dead.
Emotions are complicated, and even severely abused people sometimes miss their abusers. Brains just kinda work like that sometimes.
(Fuck, I found out one of my old friends legit psychopath murdered someone, and in after all the horror and sadness, I still "missed" them. Feelings suck
So please, all statements like these do are make the people who might have complex emotions feel bad because they are
experiencing complex emotions.
And we're spectators in this – people like Auri are involved, and receiving a message like that is going to make most people feel guilty because they spoke up because they wanted truth and justice, not death.
So I'll say again– Or just some dick specifically trying to upset people.
Why she cares? She got her pity money and her free tablet and just left for like… Half a week or two? Lol
It WOULD be a shame for all d the other victims
who REALLY struggled to come forward, specially for Ocean who really went through a lot of manipulation by that other felicia Ziegs and all the other victims
who struggled to come forward about this.
Yes me neither. Which is why I posted that above comment.
Cry is mentally ill (I think it's obvious by now). And I realised something looking at his "being turned on by artists" comment (disgusting, btw); that he might have been in denial about the full extend of his abusive
behaviour, and it mays only be catching up to him now that it has become public.
With him targetting fanarists for ex; he prays on them and asks for sexual favors, but he also gives them publicity by being "gracious enough" to retweet their art etc. So it's "not so bad" in his head, if he makes them "famous" right? Like a win-win exchange.
…which is even more f* up for the victims
, as it makes the abuse more difficult to pinpoint for them (that plus the victimisation and emotional blackmail etc.)
So no Cry. You will not kill yourself. You will live enough to be in court.
I'm also not kidding with men being victims
too. Cry said it himself that he is pansexual. Remember?
I wish they would realize and/or speak up. I guess it is difficult to recognise it, to be a victim
. But it doesn't make you weak to be one… In contrary it makes you strong to survive it.
who the fuck cares, but snake already confirmed there were male victims
. cry isnt straight.
One of the victims
is trans, basically a trans man, so he could mean he's talking to women who "idenify" as men.
but who knows? Maybe he was e-flirting with trans men and lady boys for all we know.
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cheyenne tweeted but it isn’t too much of an update
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Go figure, for an idiot who is colluding with her abusive
ex to frame other people, shutting the fuck up is the smartest thing her crusty ass could've done.
Now if only you took lolcow's advice years ago. The internet has been saved without Cheyenne's constant mewling.
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I haven’t watched Cry actively since around 2015 and just found out about all of this recent internet drama a few days ago. I’m not surprised that a dude in his 30’s who’s been surrounded by girls for 10 years has been ousted as a groomer/cheater, but the fact that Cry went out of his way to confirm all of these twitter allegations does surprise me. It blows my mind how this 31 year-old guy thought it was a good idea to confirm groomer allegations made against him when his current fanbase consists(ed) of woke tumblr users, underage girls, and women who still gushed over him after 6-10 years. The man just single-handedly destroyed his entire career lmao.
The former fans are also pretty funny since they gobble up every little accusation and spread it around like it’s fact. What’s even funnier is how so many people are still expecting Cry to be given jail-time after almost a month has passed, including Cheyenne who seems to be spearheading all of this shit (but then again the cunt has always been a loud-mouthed retard from what I can tell, so maybe it’s not that surprising). Even Snake seems to think Cry’s going to be arrested or something, which is weird to me since he’s always struck me as a more grounded-with-reality type of guy. The odds of Cry being taken to court are so slim they’re pretty much non-existent, and even if he was there’s nothing that could really happen to him as he technically didn’t do anything illegal.
So many people act like he literally raped dozens of people, when in actuality everybody was consenting (regret-rape isn’t real). All of these attention-seeking “victims” coming forward adding fuel to the fire are only doing so so they can have their 5 seconds of internet fame, like that Auri girl who’s now streaming on Twitch making bank off of her new support group. Checking Reddit/Twitter daily to witness these fragile women-children have “mental breakdowns” claiming they now have PTSD (or whatever the latest self-diagnosed mental trauma is popular in the Tumblr community atm) is becoming an amusing new hobby for me. Imagine getting that worked up all because some YouTuber/Twitch streamer you’ve never even met/spoken has an imperfect sex-life.
I can’t wait to see the inferno Cry will create when he finally breaks his silence. I hope things will get nice and juicy again.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
No one cares about your amusing hobby
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My my my, well isn't somebody butthurt?
You have such a weird vendetta. She is as much of a victim
as the rest of the people, even if you have a hateboner for her lol
Pewds most recent livestream had his watching his "Pewdiepie Funny Moments" video and there's a Cry clip in there, he pauses it IMMEDIATELY and then says "Oh No, oh no we have to skip this now"
Seems he might be updated on the whole thing. His chat got a bit upset since I guess most of them don't know, they were asking why he skipped Cry and he didn't answer
Timestamp at 21:54>>1007848
If you actually read the thread at all, you would see there's been at least 2 CIS dudes Cry was cyberfucking, so, I dunno anon we can't help you with your reading problem
You have to click and view it on YouTube.
Also sage your posts if you don’t have milk.
same. i still remember them reading those silly fanfictions with Ken and then suddenly their interactions just— stopped.
i haven't posted here yet, but needless to say this entire situation has been a little complicated to digest. i have a feeling radio silence is all we're going to get for a very
long time, on all fronts, but i also don't believe Cry will really ever recover from this, career-wise.
Sometime last year Cry said he was planning to do something with Pewdiepie (and was clearly very excited about it) but then Pewdiepie bailed on him.
Also in one of Cry's streams during the week or so before he released his shitty attempt at a confession (or possibly during his birthday stream where he had a breakdown) someone asked him about Pewdiepie being problematic
and Cry went off about how you don't know a person just from their on-screen persona and how Felix was a good guy and a friend, and he wasn't going to denounce him just to please other people.
Then last week Pewdiepie found out about the Cry shit on stream and started insisting they'd never really been close and it was more like a "coworker" relationship kek
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Creepshow art made a video on Ryan, we can expect in the next few weeks for the rest of the commentary channels to cover this as well.
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In case anyone was curious, he's still active on Snapchat at the least.
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The stats are going to be interesting for sure, but unfortunately they are incomplete. It says below on the site that they will be until the month rolls over.
I still hope for hilarious results.
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Not positive, but I'd say that that's subs remaining.
There he go!
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This is hilarious. Glad everyone seems to know.
Unfortunately it seems to be exactly that:
"All values are based on the real number of subs shared to the chat, and yet the calculation of totals requires approximation.
The Unshared column shows an approximate value of the hidden subs that didn't share their subscription to the chat."
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update ish i guess
Not really news but apparently another victim
reached out to Auri. I wonder how deep the rabbit hole goes.https://twitter.com/bubblegumpompom/status/1289176237693218822
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Someone added a role to Cry on his discord oop
It's working, isn't it? Name one person besides this thread that's still talking about it.
Give it two more months and he's streaming again, with new mods banning all grooming references.
Okay, let me say this really clearly.
Cry is in legal trouble. People have reported Cry for being a bad dude.
Unlike movies and TV shows, people do not tell the cops "this guy is a bad dude." The cops do not say "oh shit," and roll up and arrest him right away, fling him in jail and never let him see the light of day again.
That's not how real life works (baring circumstances of immediate threat). The legal system takes time.
Even if he was arrested, he probably was bailed out. Bail is not a get out of jail free card, it just means you don't have to sit in jail.
But "legal trouble" is not something that is taken care of in 3 weeks. Court cases can and do regularly take months or even years to come to a peak. The legal system is slow
. And Covid's probably making that shit slower, TBH.
Movies and TV shows make it seem fast, but it isn't. And nothing about this is a "quick" case. We shouldn't expect anything for months, or even years.
Past that, Cry has probably gotten a laywer who has told him to shut the fuck up. Will he start posting videos again? Fuck, he might, but even if he does: that doesn't mean that he's gotten away scot-free. Cry posting again doesn't mean that the laywers and the law will forget about him. It doesn't work that way.
here is what you should expect right now: Lots of quiet.
There are lots of rules around this sort of thing that basically say "Don't talk to anyone about this" – on both sides of the case.
And at SOME point, we MIGHT hear about a court case. Or we might not. Not everything gets slathered across the news.
But for right now? don't expect anything. The legal system is not fast.
blessing in disguise for that team.
Imagine if they went with cry, their project would be in quite the pickle.
As someone who's just read that, I felt dumber for every word I read. It's oozing r/iamverysmart energy, trying to be verbose and seem insightful while it's painfully obvious they have nothing to say and the core message is half a sentence long.
Scrolling back to it now, the first sentence is actually hilarious, to go on posting nothing but vagueness and repeating references to 'the movies' lmao
Probably shouldn't be too harsh, might be like a teen on the cusp of intellectual maturity. Just maybe try not to sound so authoritive until you're an authority on something
About the VA job, that literally might have been a last minute pivot on their part in light of the drama. Which seems like kind of a win until realizing he probably already got all the recording work done and sent in, in which case he got paid to not
be in a game anyway. But at least some people are spared from hearing him and thinking about this shit for some time longer.
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still silent noise from cry
But… look at who said they said they would never stream again, and is back to streaming?
The funny part is Angel can't brak even a hundred views, before she could break 1K easily due to being a former lover of cry.
Guess she thinks the aftermath is over and everyone will just forget. She, Cry and fans of Cry are still on his side it seems.
I'm getting a feeling that there's at least one person here who has a distinctly raging hateboner for any woman who's ever been very close to Cry.
Anything they do besides hide themselves forever from the public eye is shameworthy, no moving on allowed.
She didn't say she'd never stream again… she said she was going to step away and may or may not come back. She chose to come back. Pretty sure this isn't even her first stream back. >>1027832
I'm getting that feeling too
I don't know where you're getting your info from, but Angel's streams on her own channel were always like 150-200 viewers, not 1000.
Also, I noticed that she and Russ follow either other on Twitter and have publicly interacted with each other so I guess things are okay with them now.
Good to know. –and good call on their part: The voice acting that they'd revealed for him was stiff and awkward sounding. John DeLancie's a hell of an upgrade.>>1027832
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gamerino got banned from twitch
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He's been unpartnered from twitch entirely.
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Is Syd one of the girls that was with Cry recently? or what's her paper on all this drama?
I feel bad for Beckens still being manipulated by him.
I don't get why they even feel the need to say shit? If they wanted to support victims
going online and talking about how ~great~ of a guy Cry was to them is embarrassing
Physically attractive or not, they are automatically ugly af when they have shitty attitudes and support predators.
So who gives a shit how they look. They're fucked up in the head.
learn to sage.
she's not even attractive, she's just skinny with mediocre tits. can't get past the retard lip bite thing either
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even without makeup and with this glossy "chem peel" stuff she still looks pretty attractive
Learn to sage
No one wants to see your shrimp dick
pack it up cry
ah damn, you got me, I'm definitely cry
it's surprising how controversial a "skinny white girl is atractive" statement is around here
Sage your posts if you're not adding anything useful to the conversation.
You don't have to simp so hard she's not gonna fuck you bro. Her face is freaky, her tits are ok at best, and the rest of her build makes her look like a twelve year old boy.
she can be both attractive and a shitty person
I was responding to >>1038685
which is a pretty silly comment>>1038766
aw, really? so saying she's attractive in a very obscure anonymous imageboard that nobody visits, with no identifying personal information whatsoever, will not get her to fuck me? =( guess I didn't think that through very well, huh?
hold on, let me try her onlyfans instead
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you can't even bother to read the rules. if youre still going to type about your hurt feefees at least learn to sage and stop announcing your dick and who you find attractive, i promise you no one cares.
I wasn't announcing it, someone accused me of being this girl. there are only two ways I can prove I'm not her, with my face or my penis. and no way I'm putting my face on the internet for everyone to see.
also, my feefees aren't hurt. all I did was respond to a post calling someone unattractive, saying I disagree. you're the ones who seem to have had your feefees attacked by that.
type "sage" in the email field before sending replies.
No one gives a fuck that you're a man lol, you could have just said "im not syd" or just not said anything at all, no one wants to see your dick or your face.
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this was hilarious>>1038806
I don't know, this is the most activity this thread has seen in a single day in months, and it all happened because I said some random girl is attractive. if no one cared, no one would have replied(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
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Deserved. Imagine thinking this is hot? Couldn't be me.
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sure, that one is weird, but just like you can cherry pick some bad ones I can cherry pick some good ones
people have been emailing her saying that cry killed himself if i remember right, i wouldn't be shocked if someone is trying to do the same here
just have to wait for her response
This literally places the blame (unintentional or not) for a suicide attempt on the victims
that felt comfortable enough to speak to Auri privately. Sure, it's not healthy for her to try to take everything on, but implicating that in a public post is noooot a good look
Any type of attempt just doesn't make sense in the time frame. I also just don't understand it being announced, what would have to be, IMMEDIATELY after, if it did happen. A suicide attempt is fucking traumatic. No matter what she tried to do, why would you be like "tell my followers, post haste!!!" when you're still, I'm imagining, processing shit and STILL deep in the emotions of hopelessness and misery that comes with attempting suicide.
It doesn't make sense, at fucking all to me, unless this is an intentional stunt or just a made up thing not from her at all.
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From what it looks like, a spam twitter account has posted it.
I do have to wonder if it was a selfpost thing though.
Yeah imo it reaks of self posting, she was conveniently
asleep while this was posted, same as Ziegs being asleep when the cry shotgun tweet was posted.
It does look that way, but honestly, there's been someone around here (probably cry and company) trying to make victims
look bad and turn against them. I'm willing to give her a benefit of a doubt because there's been so much stuff directed at victims
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Sharing your nudes with third parties without your consent is definitely a crime, even if you don't say anything publicly about it, consider pressing charges.
If he's done this to you, he's probably going to do it to others.
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Cry asking an underage viewer their bra size back in 2013.https://twitter.com/shaescience/status/1305874777110913024
I kinda doubt this is true tbh. This is the stuff I'm talking about though, there's like a bunch of people around here that seem to want to delegitimize any of the actual people involved with Cry.
Sorry, if this is real, you should just go public with it? Like, join up with the other victims
or something, but until then this is super unbelievable.
Holy shit. I remember this. He did it all on stream too. Everything he’s done has so many underlying things to it. It sucks how tainted and fucked Cry has made everything now. He’s so gross. >>1039266
I would seriously go to Snake/Russ/Scott if you haven’t already. They have been helping as much as they can with a lot of Cry’s victims
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I'm nearly a week late but this is the best news I've heard all year.
Everything that keeps pouring out of this case doesn't surprise me in the least and I'm very thankful for these "I was blind/stupid and completely enabled this behavior" and "I was silenced by others too" posts.
Like, it was an absolutely bizarrely cultish fandom and I'm still weirded out that it took this long, for Cry to openly admit guilt, for people to see that.
I honestly agree that this is mostly true, but i also want to give Beckens and SydKyd the benefit of the doubt.
We can see for sure they're throwing victims
under the bus, but I do wonder how deep into the web they are too, you know?
I wonder if it's also an invalidating victims
thing. Every time it happens there's a period of people feeling like said victims
are talking out of both sides of their mouths and/or getting friends involved for publicity.
Also helps intimidate others into not coming forward, knowing the liars will buzz about shit like this like angry hornets. (As if they weren't already aware, having been quiet as long as they have already for probably that and other, similar reasons.)
On top of these gross possibilities (and I'm sure more) comes the concern that someone will actually do something drastic, but after all the outsider troll cries of "wolf" it will go ignored. And in that case, well, mission accomplished.
Seriously, if this is true, reach out to the former LNC or Ocean. They can all help you. YOU can help the others.
Don't let them have this control over you. Cry will not stop here and he will continue to do this to more and more people if he's allowed to get away with it.
relating to this comment, it is actually true. beckens and syd seem to be the two main girls of his in which they will somehow retaliate, if possible and in any way, towards anyone who claims to be a victim
, know info about cry, or even talk shit on him in public, though that depends if many people saw it or not.
if they can make you look bad, they will. or just talk baseless shit. they are so engrossed in his ways that they are doing anything and everything for him. they think cry is their one and only. it is kind of scary to think what would happen if he just, disappeared, leaving them all alone for themselves. they need help. and a lot of it.
despite that, their actions are unacceptable and disgraceful. disgusting. idiotic. but that is because they are far gone in their own heads. unfortunate. but this is the damage he has done.
I'd love to know too. If anyone knows anyone who might know, that'd be awesome. Although whoever you ask… might get mad that you asked because I guess no one in his inner circle wants to think of him anymore. Understandable.
All I know is Cry was dealing with some legal stuff and isn't allowed to talk about it.
I also looked up that Florida has some particularly heavy punishments regarding "Internet Crimes Against Children", so… he might be in big trouble.
If he's in jail, it might explain why we haven't heard anything. It can take up to 6 months for a trial. So… that'll be January before we're likely to hear anything.
But yeah, I'm worried. I can't help it, despite what he did.
So, yeah. Theories are:
- He's hiding from the world, either out of shame or to keep his mouth shut.
- He's in jail awaiting a trial.
- He's in therapy.
- He's dead.
Yeah, I don't like that last one, nor do I think it's true. But I can't deny that I wonder about it. The dude lost everything because of his behavior, and he's always been fairly emotional, so… yeah…
But I'm sure if that were the case, his ex-friends would still find out and let everyone know, which is why I doubt it.
Hopefully someone has better answers than my theories.
To that end: please don't message Rus, Jund, Snake, Ocean, etc about it. If they have info to share, the latter three have been pretty transparent. I haven't kept up with Snake, but I still watch Jund frequently, who's said he tries not to think about it, and Russ recently said "don't know, don't care," in relation to someone asking, so… No sense in bothering the LNC and victims
/exes. It'll be a Long While until we hear anything again, especially in the Age of CV holding back court dates.
Ah lovely, so he’s probably doing the exact same thing he’s been doing
Guy deserves to rot tbh
He isn't trying to get victims
to speak with him and is no longer involved with lawyers so I'm not sure where you got that from.
Using discord and using snapchat doesn't mean anything except using discord and snapchat. I talk to my family using both.
The fact of the matter is we don't know what he's doing, just that he's not dead and isn't disallowed from internet access.
I’m gonna say some things, and I’m not saying that Cry never did anything wrong, never hurt anyone, or never did anything illegal. I’m not saying that he’s not a creep, or a selfish asshole with very few boundaries who dipped his digital dick in a few too many pies. I’m not trying to justify his actions in any way. And I’m not saying that the victims are wrong and don’t deserve justice. Although IMO, they’ve had as much as they’re going to get.
What I am asking is to look at things from a different viewpoint. Cry definitely lied and betrayed us. That he didn’t stand up to what his persona represented to us. But I am not going to hate him. We’ll get to why.
Now, this is coming from a different viewpoint. One similar to Magnta, to be honest. I’m a degenerate. I’m poly. I don’t see a lot of issue with sleeping around, however I have some rules that Cry apparently didn’t. Rule #1: Know their age. Adults only. Rule #2: Get consent. If someone is uncomfortable with a direction of things then stop. Rule #3: Be honest. And by that I mean, make sure they know the relationship isn’t exclusive. He seemed to follow those rules with Magnta but not some of the others. However, to be frank, when it comes to the relationships between consenting adults, it’s no one else’s business.
The big issue that everyone has is the underage grooming. And yeah, that’s bad. I do want to know though… how many people knew grooming was a thing 5 years ago? I didn’t. I’m 32. Hell explaining this situation to a friend who’s 26 asked, “What is grooming?” And between the state laws of consent and Romeo and Juliet laws, the only crime Cry actually did was with Ocean. Not excusing his actions, btw. He still broke a law…. 6 years ago. And statutes of limitations means he’s gonna get away with it. But oddly, after Ocean, he became more careful about consent and age. Doesn’t make what he did better, but it means he learned something in that time.
Honestly, I think this entire thing is the reality check he needed. I think it means that the public will be careful with him, and he will, in turn be careful with the public. After all, if you get in his shoes for two seconds… You lost your friends, your favorite platform, 90% of your fanbase, and your simplest means to support yourself and your family… I think, and hope, that he’s learned something from this. Because yeah, he manipulated people. He did so in a way that almost every other man in my life has. I’m not mad. People suck. The difference is that Cry was internet famous, so it’s way easier to tear him down for being a dick. And oh boy, did Twitter jump on that hate train. You Anons too. The internet loves being morally superior, jumping on bandwagons, and tearing people down. There’s way too much hate in the world for me to hate him. I refuse to add to it. I prefer hope.
If someone can get a message to Cry:
If you want your platform back, it’s going to get worse before it gets better. People are going to hate me for saying this, but I recommend you try. Start with that apology video. Make it a long one. Go deep. Do not blame others. Do not claim to have changed or talk like it’s a past self. What you did is your own fault and you need to own it. Tear yourself a-fucking-part. Name your victims, and include Russ in that apology. Keep your audience away from you. Close your DMs. No Discord server. Talk to people in a public forum, and for the love of God, IF you talk to someone privately, know their age.
Like I said, I’m a degenerate. My server is full of other degenerates, and I keep a strict 18+ rule.
But if you try to get your platform back… don’t hide behind a persona. Be honest. Because lying hasn’t gotten you very far. And if you do someone wrong again…. The last of us who have any hope left for you won’t be there next time.
And check your Twitter DMs before you close them. You’ll know which one’s mine, because I’m nicer than most. I’m open to hear your side.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
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imagine caring this much about a person who will never notice or give a shit that you exist
You sent a fucking DM to this bastard??? Anon, is there something wrong. Who hurt you?
To defend this absolute bastard who groomed, gaslit and manipulated a handful of not only adults but most importantly MINORS is nuts. I grew up with the bastard and fell off when his act was getting stale–so I don't feel betrayed in the slightest, just appalled.
The thing is, if he had any semblance of ability to show any change he would have done so the SECOND he posted the video–instead he decided to double-down, frame it as a manic episode, take back his apology in a way and figured working with Cheyenne to turn EVERYTHING on his so called friends was the best idea instead of I dunno? Owning up to it?
It's not the fact that he's internet famous that everyone's so up in arms–he really could have been anyone and people would reprimand him for what he's done albeit on a smaller scale.
He USED his internet fame to his selfish advantage in order to feed this power dynamic fetish he most likely has as evidence shows. Because he has an audience, because he had the unlimited access to impressionable people, and he USED it is deplorable and scummy.
I don't know what you think you'll gain from doing this aside from becoming yet another person to feed his ego but you should really think about what negative effects you might incur from this. THINK ANON. THINK.
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Not milk, but a reddit comment that got me thinking.
I agree with you and thank you for saying this, it does seem to be somewhat of an unpopular opinion.
I check on this thread occasionally to see if there are any updates on the situation but it's so exhausting because everyone is so incredibly hateful and mean and disgusting because I guess that's what the internet is. I get that they have a reason to be but I feel like everyone deserves some respect no matter who they are or what they've done.
I think he definitely needed a reality check too and I'm still holding out hope that he'll come out with an apology video and at least try to redeem himself because I really want to believe in him.
When Twitch kicks Cry and partners with Onision, it's not a lie.>>1069716
Makes this a very one sided forum.
There is a difference between being poly and cheating.>>1069756
Most threads here are one sided. No one here is sympathetic to disgusting groomers and pedophiles. I honestly am baffled that there are people who are still willing to watch him, or feel bad for him, or forgive him. I bet they're all scrotes.
You're the one throwing the insults, pal.
The people here talk righteous talk, but you just can't wait to step on the next person who proves they're actually human people who make mistakes, and not gods that you put on pedestals.
It's not our place to forgive him, but we don't have to hate him for it. Why does being disappointed in someone require so much hostility? Why is hoping someone can grow from this something to be looked down on? And if your answer is another insult, then your opinion doesn't matter.
pedos don't change. and grooming is not "a mistake". any normal adult will not get sexually involved with a minor.
and learn to sage at least.
>>1069945>>we don't have to hate him for it>>we
Who the fuck is we? Feel how you feel about him and sage.
Onision has had NUMEROUS people for YEARS making highly viewed videos about how shit he is. He even had Chris fucking Hansen get involved.
Cry did what he did, twitch did what they did and there was some drama before he disappeared. Thats it.
Not years of drama and bullshit. This isn't that dramatic. Fuck Onision and Cry, but people have probably fucking forgotten about all this.
Give it a rest. You’re not going to achieve anything by doing this. He’s done what he did and his attitude when things went south showed what kind of person he is. He didn’t even manage to make a genuine apology or respect the victims
. He’s not going to change simply for people on the internet and he’s not going to change whether people hate on him or not. There’s things he can do to improve but he didn’t do them. He’s not about to start because people give him sympathy or support.
>I bet they're all scrotes.
Right there ^^
>pedos don't change
Then why did he stop seeing underage girls 6 years ago? That's a pretty large gap after doing it almost nonstop. He went from dick pics and online b-day sex with Ocean to breaking up with Auri because she was underage in under a year. Something changed. You just don't want to see it because you think "once bad, always bad", but life isn't that black and white. Maybe he finally looked at himself in the mirror and felt disgust.
>Any normal adult will not get sexually involved with a minor.
If he were anyone else, most of those relationships would have been fine. I was 17 with a 23 year old bf once, with exactly the same kind of relationships he seems to have had. Maybe that plays into why I don't see it as a huge deal. The only part I didn't have in mine is dating someone who was a minor celebrity. >>1069952
>Who the fuck is we?
Everyone. There is no reason for this hostility. There's too much of it in the world.>>1069969
Thank you for being civil. I really appreciate it. I'll stop when I see more of that from the others.
>>1069972>He went from dick pics and online b-day sex with Ocean to breaking up with Auri because she was underage in under a year.
Auri broke up with him and he was still manipulating young girls after her.
No one is supporting him anymore besides maybe a few people you could count on one hand.
I understand it must be painful for you but his recent actions have shown he has not changed.
If he's able to take a few years away and come back and prove he's changed, fair enough. But no one has the right to be the judge of that other than his victims
and it's not anyone's place who isn't involved in the situation directly to be saying things like this.
>Auri broke up with him
>“So yeah, I told him my age. And he backed off. And we kinda just, stopped talking
after that. I think we both just truly felt that it wasn’t right to continue what we were
doing. But also I wasn’t super involved with the community while this was happening. I
kind of just spoke to him.”
^^ From her VOD. It's also in her original Tweets that he backed off. I'll admit, they were from before she turned on him, but I have to assume she was telling the truth regardless. This is not something someone should lie about, even to protect someone.
Alright. That's the last of my argument, assuming others won't respond.
You're right. The right to judge is only in the hands of his victims
. I just felt a need to say my piece. All this vitriol just makes my blood run cold.
To anyone else who still holds onto hope that he could grow from this, and especially to those who won't say so because of reactions and conversations like these: You're not alone.
I've seen quite a few people who feel the same.
And others can think we're insane or idiots, but our mind is our own. I'd rather be insane with my own opinion than follow a crowd into hell.
There. Done. If anyone responds, I'll assume you enjoy an argument.