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And his (ex?)gf, Cheyenne:
On the last thread:>another debate about cheyenne's age>cheyenne continues to say that she's still with Cry, no confirmation either way.
I didn't want to have to set it as a spoiler for using an awful picture of her, but I didn't want to use the same pic as the last two threads.
side note; Never thought that as a mod I would be making a thread devoted to shit talking cry, but here I am.
It's because her glasses are hiding her lazy eye and half of her face is obscured. >>307696
I saw that and wasn't too surprised. On Christine's twitter, they were pretty much cuddling. I'm pretty positive they're dating.
I thought it was weird that Cheyenne liked a tweet someone responded to her with about marrying Cry unless he fucks it up. She's so gross.
Also her friendship with Sage, who must be in need of attention because she's posting pictures of literally just her mediocre tits (and another of her skinny fat no ass body on instagram), is still way fake. They don't know how to interact with each other beyond "look, we clearly like other girls, watch us barely talk to each other, this proves it!"
I was going to say the same, and then the nap tweet as well. Sure, I have napped with my best friend, however we shared a two bed apt in college with two other girls and both pairs shared a bed. Difference is, they dont live together, and I never tweeted about napoing with her being "v v v good". They are dating. Or faking. Wouldn't surprise me either way.
Sage for miniblog
you're right, it's still an odd feeling, but i've been past it since about thread 3.
anyways, they're 100% broken up.
geez i know this has been said b4 but the way Chey looks must b indicative of the way Cry looks\
and in most relationships the guy is less hot than the girl
Eh, he also has (from what i've seen) shit self-esteem; he might be thinking cheybeast is the best he could do. She probably already manipulated him into thinking that. I imagine Cry to be a solid average.>>307758
Are you a mod or a friend? Or are just referring to the alleged photo that surfaced way back?
>>307761>underwhelming>average taking it too far
wew if thats not the most mysterious descriptor evr
so hes not hideous but he's plain w/ no nice features?
then ill wait patiently 4 those photos business trip anon
but in ur opinion is Chey possibly a lil better looking than Cry?
I would go w/ a 5
I've seen some seriously ugly ppl my dude
Oh good, someone finally made a new thread.
I always thought that picture was likely to just be super awful. I mean… warm day, hair frizzles, sunglasses, obviously not expecting a picture… reminds me of dozens of pictures I have from vacations I've been on.
But yeah, looking forward to pictures.
as fooooor people ratings:
I always thought that it was super weird to rate people with numbers. I mean. Attractiveness is subjective. I got a buddy who hates blondes because of a bad experience. any blonde is automatically not as good. All of us have our quirks and preferences. I mean, the dehumanizing aspect aside, it feels really weird to me to be able to directly line up all the humans into a neatly categorized hierarchy of "this one is better than that one." … especially when stuff like hormone levels, mood, attitude, the day of the week can make SO much difference.
I honestly think people are a bit hard on Cheyenne's face, but I'm also 1) pretty faceblind. 2) …shit, this is gonna sound bad, but: As part of being faceblind, and growing up in a super ethnically diverse area, I actually really am not good at deciphering people's race? But I'm pretty sure she's not-white? The big-nose thing is really common where I grew up, and I've seen some people who's faces are literally like half-nose. so hers seems pretty whatever to me. … not saying people are racist or anything, just that my own standards are different.
What REALLY bugs me in that picture is the little wispy bits of blonde on the side with the dark roots. I dunno, it makes me feel like she's balding there or something.
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what even happened to Chey? is this even the same person b/c she looks a lot less gross here> pic from old myspace
I hate to be that person but if it is true then why share the pictures? Cry has been cool af with his fans so the last we can do is let him be the one to decide if or when he wants to show his face no?
And you all are overdramatic with Cry's supposed "ugliness"… so he is probably an average and chubby beta dude, like 90% of let's players. Much surprise wow. I think we shouldn't forget that we tend to be way harsher with people's appearances online. For example I've seen in this thread people criticizing Russ's looks but if I were to see him IRL I would legit find him cute!
cuz im sick of pussyfooting around this missing puzzle piece
idgaf anymore, i wanna see the person who would put up w/ Chey 4 so long
This. This. This.
I get that people think it is low self-esteem/looks that could be the reason he stayed with Chey, but it could be also lots of other motives as I posted above (personality-wise). Staying in abusive/shitty relationships isn't only reserved for "ugly" people everyone.
Also if we see a skype picture or whatever I'm sure at 100% it will be a shitty/low rez picture and so not even representative of what he looks IRL.
Think about it and let Cry be the one to decide how, if or when he shows himself. Don't rob the power out of him please!
(sorry for shitty english)
It honestly doesn't matter at this point. You can literally look up his address, his full name is known, the mystery is gone. Just because he got any and all pictures of himself removed off google search, he's still a minor celebrity and his privacy is forfeit. I honestly don't understand his aversion to his looks, even if he had been disfigured no one would care.
There were pictures of him found like 4 years ago, and he's just an average guy. I honestly don't get why he never did cam except trying to cash in on that "mystery" money. It's literally all he's known for anymore even though it was leaked years ago before he paid sites off to remove traces of his identity.
It matters simply because he doesn't want it. There are let's players who showed their face after years of anonymity and obviously they want to do it in a way they feel confortable with, like Minx and her youtube video, you can look it up.
I don't understand you people… you are talking since one year about Cry's fucked up relationship, obviously caring about him and his wellbeing. Why now going against his deepest whishes? Do you imagine how terrible Cry will feel when he finds out about this? I remember a post on his tumblr about the doxxing of his address and he was abviously disturbed. Invasion of privacy is not something light ffs!
Literally no one gave a shit when Minx did her voice reveal. She looked exactly like anyone over 12 though she looked. She sounded fat, she is fat, no one cared.
It's exactly the same with Cry, no one actually CARES what he looks like, it's just annoying at this point to fans that he's still too much of a beta pussy bitch to publicly reveal his face even though his fans have literally made him a millionaire and wouldn't abandon him either way; they're just following basic human nature of wanting to put a voice to a fucking face. Same fucking reason the adults of us get pissed off when he even mentions money and don't get me started on the hospital shit, dude has more money than any of us will individually make in a lifetime he doesn't need shit.
completely untrue. If he's that guy in the sunglasses, but 100 pounds lighter? 100 pounds? That's incredible. He should be proud of that.
I don't care what he looks like. I think he's hilarious and that he cares a lot. It was awful that he was stuck in such an abusive relationship for so long, but I hope he's getting better now.
I'd prefer pictures of him not to be posted because that's what he wants and he should be able to have control over when he wants to reveal himself, like what the previous anon pointed out about minx.
I don't think any of us here really give a fuck what he looks like. We're not tumblr, trying to jump on his dick. It's legit just caring for the person, no matter what he looks like.
Not voice fuck me.
Considering all the leaks from previous youtubers and having been one myself it's pretty fucking well known what kind of money youtube used to earn people, and he was one of the top channels posting a video every day.
Don't be naive.
Used to be. He also supports his sister, and from what it sounds like, his brother. He's not sitting in a mansion, laughing over a pile of money. You're being naive.
Also, uh? Minor celebrity, so you don't deserve privacy? You created and worked, and were paid, so you don't deserve privacy?
An author writes a story. It's good. It gets popular and the author makes a good amount of money. Collectively, fans all over the world cry out, "you made this thing and we liked it, so you don't deserve privacy!" because that makes so much sense.
Are you dense? My point with Minx's exemple is that if you truly care about Cry (I doubt it judging by your post but you are in this thread so whatever), then you should let him have the control on how he deals with his private info and not spam some shitty low rez and old image that will not be at his advantage at all.
As for the second paragraph, you sure do sound like you know better than him on how he should lead his life :/ you don't know how much he makes, you don't know his personality or how he is going to deal with Chey or whatever (for all we know he might do a face reveal in order to "rob" her of the blackmail situation soon). Stepping in when someone is in a dangerous situation (like an abusive relationship) is necessary, deciding in his stead how he should lead his life/career by doxxing private info is not.
> Staying in abusive/shitty relationships isn't only reserved for "ugly" people everyone.
Especially for someone who is coming from a 'bad' home life as a kid and doesn't have a good example of what a healthy relationship is. … >>308109
> he's still a minor celebrity and his privacy is forfeit.
I would not say that this is true. everyone
is entitled to their privacy. Just our society generally doesn't accept that. shrug
and I don't think he was anticipating what would happen when he uploaded his first thingies to Youtube. I mean, setting aside a dozen or two non-lets players, his first 'cry plays' was posted on in Sept 2010. For scale, Pewdiepie's first video is October 2010… though his first Amnesia video wasn't until December of that year. and even if PDP wasn't the first, he is certainly the biggest, and has been for a lot of his career.
I mean, I hate to be the 'hipster' here, but I've been watching PDP and cry since… late 2011, early 2012? … no one anticipated it becoming as popular as it did.
and his privacy wasn't just about him, it was about his family. As I recall, there were pictures of his little brother also posted, as well as pictures of his mom's house–a house he didn't actually live at.
What I'm saying is, he posted something to youtube, then suddenly people are posting pictures of his pre-teen brother online. Holy shit.
> I honestly don't understand his aversion to his looks, even if he had been disfigured no one would care.
As I pull on my hipster glasses again.. actually people freaked the fuck out about it. People had 'decided' on a universal 'kawaii desu bishounen cry-chan' to draw for fanart, and at the suggestion that it wasn't…. well… I imagine that if my face got leaked and people started shrieking about how ugly that person is, and that couldn't POSSIBLY be me… I, uh, I think my confidence would take a hell of a hit too.
Not to mention, people tend to be super harsh about EVERYONE who's faces are posted online. like, appallingly so. I think it's something about "how is this person so famous? I must deride their appearance however I can so that they don't think they're good, because they suck and I hate them because I could do better, if I felt like it."
So what is your argument exactly? That since internet allows all kind of behaviours and other people could do it, we might as well do it too, even if we consider ourself part of the fandom and care about him?
Take the higher ground please.
It's not about being cynical, it's just real life.
A youtube channel I watch recently got kicked out of their building because someone watching them send their videos to the property owner of them breaking down a door(that they bought for a skit). They never gave any real indication of what town they were in, just the state, and someone was pathetic enough to doxx them and find out who the property manager was.
I will reiterate part of my point: When Cry got started, this whole 'let's play' thing was tiny, niche and unpopular. He didn't, and couldn't, anticipate how this was going to blow up. There was no precedent.
It was kind of like saying "I'm gonna draw fanart for this obscure little fandom" then that fandom blowing up in popularity and your piece going viral because of reasons beyond your control.
Anyway, just because some people are assmonkies and are willing to dox people to kick them out of their building doesn't mean that that behavior is okay.
FFS, if I have a scar on my tit I hate, that doesn't give people the right to rip my shirt off to see it just because I let a few select people see it.
Because he doesn't want to become pewdiepie who literally cannot take a vacation without people recognizing him. Because he doesn't want to live in a state of "can I walk out my front door and go get a snickers bar, without getting harassed by fans?" Because he doesn't want his family bothered by people.
yeeee boi! cry's biggest secret finally cracked ;))) i can now continue discussing his love life and what he had for breakfast, just for the sake of it.
good job guys.
And yet, despite this, people will still try to see it anyway. Because it was mentioned, once.
People are rude ass animals. If you have 'neat' hair, people will
try to touch it. (be it neat in color, texture, length, etc), if your skin is odd, they'll try to grope you. >>308189
Hm, didn't mean to suggest that his face would rocket him to that level of popularity, or anything, but for a while, he was a well rising star in the youtube scene.
I actually wonder if he intentionally sabotaged himself..? There was a time when he was doing videos a lot with pewdiepie, markiplier and others… or maybe that coincides with when he got together with Cheyenne.. Hm….
I think it's because of youtube's culture. It became increasingly more toxic over time and probably made him stay away from the spotlight.
I mean if you look at it most youtubers lives are quite unhealthy, what with all the easy money and superficial relations.
For example I'm 100% convinced, now seeing Chey's old tweets to pewdiepie that they were quite passive-agressive in nature. Like in a "get off ma man!" kind of passive-agressive, and that as a result Pewds had to walk on eggshells in order to do peace offering to her (like following her on twitter). Last september for exemple she tweeted "I loved that last pewdiepie video!" I checked the date (14 sep) and lo and behold? It's the video where he drinks piss for view, aka the most degrading thing he did on his channel.
My point is, now that she is getting out of the picture and Cry is getting better I don't want it all ruined by the leak of his face…. please people let's do that okay?
>>308276>My point is, now that she is getting out of the picture and Cry is getting better I don't want it all ruined by the leak of his face…. please people let's do that okay?
I agree with this SO much. What if it just kills his confidence and he goes back to her… Then she starts coming around again? Can we not boost up Cheyenne and then shoot ourselves in the foot in terms of shit we enjoy.
Over shit that just doesn't matter.
Any chance for some clips/timestamps?
I don't have time or patience to sit through one of cheyenne's streams.
I'm pretty sure they're broken up… just not publically talking about it yet.
NOt sure why, but my runnning theory is that he's hoping that if they're quiet about it for a while, people won't care as much when they finally announce it.
I am also pleased that i'm right about my cry-taking-care-of-his-family-and-not-wanting-to-her-to-move-in-theory.
Cheyenne is a known liar. She lies about so much stuff. I'm pretty sure the fake togetherness is just for her… He doesn't really interact with her or reference her at all.. And when he HAS referenced her, it wasn't even by name.
You can't just look at what Cheyenne says. Also consider the fact she has pictures of her canoodling a new girl and talking about napping with "someone" (very obviously is to make Cry jealous)
That's just no way they're still together, but pretending for Cheyenne's sake seems like something she'd definitely demand.
Lol damn. First off: Yeah it sucks that she's partnered. She really doesn't deserve that. The fact that she didn't even make a tweet last night saying it's canceled, or even today when she's obviously up. Really sucks for her fans.
Second: I agree, it really is getting annoying not knowing fully what their relationship is. Its kinda obvious that Cheyenne is making it last longer than it should. She's the reason they were holding off on saying anything, I think?
Pewdiepie seems like an edgelord but otherwise much less toxic than Cry and Cheyenne combination. And Sean (overly-energetic but seems chill) and Ken and so on. Even Mark. The big gaming scene isn't really that full of drama as far as I know. Commentator and fashion scene is horrible but gamers are still pretty much tame.
So I don't think the toxicity stuff is true at all.
I think Cry wanted a change but didn't realize that his youtube channel would die. He tried to switch to twitch and now he doesn't even have any other choice than to stream. His streams are pretty cool though, it suits him well.
I thought someone in thread 4 said that Cheyenne was the one who was ready to announce it, not Cry. I could be wrong, though.
It would be really nice to have W come back and ease our thoughts again, LOL.
>Pewdiepie seems like an edgelord but otherwise much less toxic than Cry and Cheyenne combination.
Honestly, as a long time PDP watcher, he's honestly not. he's incredibly sarcastic, and not always in a good or understood way. I think a lot of his fans are actually the people he's making fun of, actually. I dunno. I've seen so many people who are so much more edgelordy….
BUt he's actually pretty non toxic, IMO. Cry's pretty chill, minus a few places where he's dumb. cheyenne on the other hand, is a barrel of weird green ooze from an 80's cartoon. Can we get some Captain planet in here?
> And Sean (overly-energetic but seems chill)
Honestly, after Cry, Sean/Jack's my favorite guy to go to for watching a game for the story. He's so chill and so sweet, honestly.
you're giving me some vibes.
what do you know, anon?
They're referencing someone in a previous thread, who had said that Cheyenne wanted to announce it, But Cry didn't.
That isn't true, though. >>308507
is right that the wind-down was supposed to be the announcement, but she pulled out when she found out that was what it was supposed up be for.
What's being said is that she thinks she's going to lose viewership/followers because she's no longer with Cry. There was also an excuse that she would be attacked because they broke up.
It hasn't been announced because of Cheyenne.
If you go back to Thread #4, W did confirm that they made an "agreement" that they'll announce when they're ready, and Cheyenne is but Cry hasn't initiated it yet (the why part was never said). But that was 3-4 months ago, and maybe at this point they both are afraid to say anything right now. I can understand that they might be worried about the fans' reactions and want to wait, though Cheyenne has enough people riding her dick that I think she'd be fine, but people aren't just going to forget about it.>>308595
It's ironic she'd be worried about being attacked because she was constantly shit on even while dating Cry and she never hesitated to tell them off.
I'm a friend, I pop in every now and then, and I know what's been happening. Cry is ready, Cheyenne doesn't want to. It isn't that she isn't ready, I don't speak to her, but she's very clearly dating Christine just probably not in a relationship.
In my personal opinion, she wants to ride the Cry gravy train longer.
Anon, I hope you're real. I want to ask for proof but also I think we shouldn't mess with your ~cover~
If what you're saying is true, I can finally start watching Cry again. Ever since Cheyenne came in the picture, or rather I was made aware of her existence, watching Cry has never been the same. I always get the feel like he's not speaking his mind truthfully and honestly anymore. Cheyenne is such an awful person, I hope she loses everything she gained while she was "Cry's number 1 fan" once this all ends. I want to watch her lose her shit as she becomes irrelevant.
About the alleged face reveal; I'm really not sure. I mean, yeah, there will be idiotic fangirls who might be disappointed and talk shit, but his core fanbase wouldn't mind. It's just a stupid curiosity I have, I probably would forget about it the next day, it's just because it's become such a hush-hush topic.
I do think he deserves his privacy, but saying that he will break if a photo surfaces… Come on. He is a full-grown adult. He might have depressive tendencies and low self-esteem, but after a bit of stress, he would be fine I think. That way he would have got over this big thing that comes up every few months in the fandom from what I've gathered. I think he mostly doesn't want to do a face reveal bc it has become his brand. He might be thinking that he would lose his "unique trait" that's separating him from mainstream gamers.
Eh, I don't think that it would be that big of a deal, I think fans worry about this more than he does. I know he likes his privacy but if something like that happened I don't think he would spiral down into alcoholism and kill himself. We don't need to baby him.
Saged for BS/blog
Pretty much what >>308595
said. Just referencing earlier stuff. I"m no one special. <3
Literally the only thing I have inputted into this thread is a lot of long winded cheery posts. :)
Yep Jackie boy is adorable, i appreciate his carefree vibes
used to love Mark too but I feel stressed when i watch him now for some reason
Carefree Jackaboy! yet really perceptive. Love watching him pick up on foreshadowing and stuff in games that everyone else misses. <3
As for mark… I know what you mean. He's got an oddly raw edge to him. and not always in a good way? I dunno. I havn't had as much time lately as I've wanted to (Every free moment has been devoted to TRYING to catch up on yakuza 0. 24 hours is SO MANY HOURS.)
Neither do 90% of partners but there you go?
The majority of partners right now are partnered because they were supported by partners when Amazon bought Twitch, it's literally all networking.
Yeah I agree Felix is quite down to earth and chill which is quite something since he got so big. Mark, I find him a bit manipulative and calculating when it comes to interaction to its fans, so I'm a bit meh. Don't know jack well but he looks very sweet indeed!
My point however is that if you earns your life with youtube, especially as a visible figure, your life and your very being gets mixed in non-stop. You also get rarely a "break" as a visible figure as people will recognise you online AND offline. In this sense I could completely understand Cry's decision to stay prudent with this stuff.
For example, Ken's channel is dying so he is now "whoring" the fuck out of his newborn baby in order to get views + patreon money. This is quite f* up in my opinion and I doubt people like Felix or Cry are blind to what is going on…
Would you that that Cry face is his "newborn" baby in this analogy?
That's how I feel. Not like he hasnt already made millions of dollars off youtube if he even had half conscious investors.
No one actually cares, they just need a reason to keep supporting his "I don't want to get a real job just let me keep living off fame" ass.
I'm not bashing anyone, and I met him in 2009 when he first started picking up before the face meme even started. Why can one youtuber assume he gets privacy when hundred of others lesser than him don't get the same, especially when he is thousands of time larger than them?
Again, his fucking address and full name is publicly available. Cheyenne has literally shit on him by calling him by his full name on stream, HE HAS LEAKED TWO OF THE THREE PORTIONS OF HIS SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER ON STREAM. The only pretense of privacy he has is from the tens of thousands of dollars he pays to keep private information results off search engines, and somehow you whiteknights receiving none of that keep bottlenecking the reveal, like its some sort of special secret you keep to yourself that no one else gets to have…
Calling bullshit on your meeting story because considering your retarded argumentation, you must not be older than 15 or just plain trolling.
You have a very weird representation of internet. No it's not some kind of reality TV show where you have to spill every private info when you just want to do something you are passionate about. He doesn't own you shit. And it's precisely because I don't consider his apparence to be a "special secret" that I can't get why you think it is a "goal" to absolutely reveal his face.
It's strange that you're so invested in hiding his face. I don't think there's anything particularly wrong with him not wanting to do a face reveal, but you seem REALLY mad about the possibility someone might post a picture of him here.
We've all already seen what he looks like (albeit being an old picture) so I'm not sure what the fuss is about.. Who cares if someone posts another picture or not? Why are you even here?
…because I care about him like a lot of people discussing since thread #1?
Why are YOU there?
To follow the drama because this is lolcow??? I like Cry too, but whiteknighting over his precious face is silly.>>309060
Where did I say it was important that it's revealed?
Hm, I came in ~thread 3 or so. but what I recall of the ocean drama was "He might have done something with ocean, but there's no proof, only rumors, and can we PLEASE STOP dragging her back into this, because it's not relevant"
could be wrong, though!
I'm actually amazed by the whiteknight spam in the middle of the fucking night over me posting this. People get really jealous over the few of us that met him before he started valuing theme over his actual self, holy titgrabs batman.
No one is invested in his face.It's a gimmick. The only thing fueling it in actuality is you bitches white-knighting shit in these threads scaring off the people who have shit actually saved and who weren't paid off on the assumption they were idiots by pretending you could tattle on them, you wouldn't even know who to blame in reality would you? Even the prodigy Snake has leaked pictures of Cry before. congrats on feeding the meme without even being paid.
Is it "whiteknighting" to think that leaking his face now is bad timing terribly counterproductive? BTW you are the one who brought up the subject.
Now go to sleep and stop beating a dead horse.
Cry psuedo-fucked her literally one, she's not important.
Cry and chey are still cogether, neither find the relationship to be fulfilling. Cry considers them to be over, chey id clinging.
Otheranon here, if you are >>309105
then, you seem to have made a typo that has, potentially, obscured the meaning of this post.
Of course Cheyenne can come out and announce they're not together but the literal reason she doesn't want to is because she's worried she won't make as much money. That people will unsubscribe, stop donating, stop coming around.
Which is true. They will.
She has a shit personality and really fucked herself by making everything online about herself be about Cry. No one's going to care about Cry's abusive ex.
What's dumb is she still had enough power over Cry that he lets her pretend so he doesn't have to deal with her.
She doesn't have any obligation to. That's sort of my entire point.
They aren't together but she's milking his internet fame. Nothing y'all didn't know already but I was hoping you'd read between the fucking lines and not focus on the obvious? Jesus fucking Christ.
He's choosing not to deal with her, yes. But the whole reason she wanted to delay announcing it was because she wanted to milk his name more. She's delaying her inevitable downfall. They broke up in FEBRUARY.
Cry hasn't announced it because he doesn't want to deal with Cheyenne freaking out and Cheyenne wants to pretend they're still together for as long as possible to still stay relevant. She's still making sub money, regardless if she streams consistently.
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Wrong :) but okay. To assume you know what every other circle knows is just stupid, but you're also incoherently posting on and image board drunk, so whatever I guess.
I was trying to get that across withiout triggering
the whoreposters yes.
I'm starting to question your ability to read.
I'm not saying it's not what Cheyenne wants, I'm saying it's not happening BECAUSE Cheyenne wants it. If Cry gave that much of a shit about what Cheyenne wants they'd still be together.
Okay, and I said that a ton too, so we're literally repeating the same shit back and forth. While a drunk person is spouting nonsense.
This is the stupidest fucking shit.
I agree. They said they didn't want Cheyenne to rule them out - yet, I think it'd be pretty obvious who posted the pictures if they actually did.
They didn't at all think through what they were saying, so they haven't returned.
Man, if only it was that convoluted.
I absolutely still plan on posting them if I find them, especially after last nights white knight raid. My flight got cancelled so I'm still away from my PC, so I haven't gotten a chance to look for them.
If I posted the entire thing that would be showing my name as well as anyone i associate with, so I would be cropping it regardless. I don't really care if anyone believes it or not.
On a note from last thread; the hanky spanky between Cry and Red was real.
"Hey, everyone knows I'm dating Russ, but guess what, I'm a slut and I'm also skype-fucking Cry!"
Yeah, makes sense.
Nope, not anymore!
I have no reason to make any of this up, I'm just passing info along.
And nothing on Insta or Twitter lately. I don't Snap, so can't say there.
She's taking her subs for a ride and they're too dumb to notice or too attached to her because they are actually attached to the idea of Cry. Which, brings us full circle.
I think it's safe to say over 95% of her following came from Cry's.
I used to be a fan of Cry, but I stopped frequenting LNC late-2013 so I never knew about her until he announced them dating in 2014. I eventually unfollowed Cry on Twitter after I stopped watching the crew completely, but did start following Cheyenne because I was one of the many who thought she was nice at first and her harsh jokes were just for show. But now I really only follow her stuff for any drama.
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Fuck, I forgot to add the pic.
I almost feel like they are a couple now. That girl must really want the attention if she sought out Cheyenne. Pretty gross!
Man, I Wish Cry would just announce the break up. It's fucking strange at this point.
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And I agree, the one on twitter is really weird and get on my nerves. This one is… normal.
We are restoring the balance taking away cheyenne's power with those photos though. lol.
C'mon. Is OBVIOUS there isn't any pictures.
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Just had to post…
Respect privacy level 80%
Curiosity level 20%
Okay… yes…back to Chey is a cunt talk…go
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Complete with glasses. Hoping it's just his 'type' and not a hang-up. Sigh.
i don't wanna be a dick either but i kinda wanna share the worst i've seen.
but yeah, i was kinda hoping that haircut of hers would look better but she probably should've kept it the way it was before
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Aw, you guys made Sage sad.
Then maybe don't be such a cunt and associate with cunts? We were fine with her until she showed her bitchy side. And she could just ignore these threads if she really
didn't have "thick enough skin" to read all this.
LOL delete all the accounts. AGAIN. Please, oh Sage I-don't-want-to-get-attention, please. Do it. We need the drama. Cheyenne is so quiet, do the sacrifice!
thank you for the spoiler warning, but it still didn't help me from losing my lunch.
Yup. Conspiracy that we can start: Cry had it taken down to remove pictures that were posted of him
NOT ACTUAL FACT
I was actually thinking that lol.
But then I realised it was the whole site that was down and not just this thread. So nah.
Okay? If you listen to it and find something interesting, link the timestamp. You don't need to link an entire long podcast just because he's in it.
This is supposed to be for milk, not for everything he does under the sun.
She's been streaming for close to three hours now. I just started watching it too.
I don't know if she explained it or not earlier, but I just noticed she took down her $2000 donation goal.
She's kinda been saying that for a while now. Like when she had face cam.
But nothing really happened on her stream other than someone asking in chat about if she's gonna be on LNC soon and her totally ignoring it.
It's 2017 and she's like 23 but still has that emo scene hair like nigri? Does she secretly have a 6head or something?
God dam, if you have an ugly face you'd think of other ways to try and improve your appearance by using illusion: make up, better clothing, better hair color and style, suitable glasses. And maybe if she doesn't want to be artificial then perhaps better personality at least. I mean c'mon chey.
Yeah, there were a lot of shit-stirrers trying rake that drama in.
Half of me is happy that anon didn't deliver, and other half is disappointed for letting myself get baited when I know that bs bait smell.
It should be really important to note for you guys, to help you understand better, but…
None of the mods that haven't been a regular on the actual stream have ever seen Cry, some of the regulars have never seen Cry. Most of the LNC didn't know what Cry looked like for years, some of them not even until after Cry and Chey started dating.Friends of the other cast members have never seen Cry.
These people who say "oh I was a friend of a friend and blah blah" never deliver because they either do not know or they got a glance at a fraction of a picture once before and never had the ability to save it. Very few people in Cry's life have copies of a picture of him saved anywhere.
Cry doesn't just go showing people what he looks like without absolute trust in them that they will never reveal it, even if they stop being friends or associating with each other. He is almost obsessively secret about it to the point he literally pays a company to make sure the few pictures of him that used to be online never show up again.
No one ever comes through because the only people who have the pictures are people who would never show them or people who don't care enough or are being convinced not to show them legally.
Yep and the whole team bought it. kek just like the same thing with previous thread on chey's ex gf.
I don't deny that the possibility of her having an ex especially with how she's responded to social media about her sexuality. But
But there's no proof. No proof and people ate that shit up just because some anon decided the thread was too dry.
>"the hanky panky was real"
Really think Red and cry are the type of people to do such thing to one of their closest friend? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
At this point I don't even know why cry won't balls up and leave her dry.
Why even bother to want some type of association with her when she's such a fucking cow.
And that's when we come full circle with previous thread kek. She must have something on him, or he's still in some type of denial about her to give her some chances.
Because you can still care about someone who treats you terribly. You can still care about someone who's hurt you. You can still care about someone who's bad for you.
Also, something to think about: Cry takes care of his family. He does this, in part, by providing for them and making sure they have a home and, presumably, food, shelter, etc.
This is a totally valid way of showing love… I see it a lot in people who have single parent homes. "I want to provide for my loved ones" … It's often rather sadly misunderstood as being 'materialistic'… but it's a very valid way of showing affection. (shouldn't be the ONLY way, but is still valid!) It shows that one wants to be responsible for them, and care for them.
So, if he's still paying her internet bill–IF– it's probably because he still cares. and that's okay. because the heart takes a while to catch up with the brain. Even in the worst situations.
I agree with you. Speaking of personal experience, you can do a decision based on reason (like breaking up), but emotionally can't help but still care about the ex. I don't think we should be too worried, between her failed attempts to make him jealous and the long-distance thing, it would need a big change of heart to try to rekindle something. (I don't think that Cry was ever fully in the relationship anyway…I mean long distance even after 3 years? That just shows low-investment man).>>311463>>311693
Yeah and I'm sorry about the big dramatic debate that took place earlier kek. Nevertheless I think it was interesting to talk about the responsibility/possible consequences of what we are doing here. I doubt for example that the anons venting back in thread #1 expected Cry to read it and have his reality check.. even the smallest corners of internet can have a bigger reach that we imagine!
She threw so many fit during streams back then when things didn't go according to HER way.
God I want to crawl into a hole thinking about those moments.
I'm glad Russ Jund and Snake were mature enough for her shit tantrums back then. Except for Jund kek; old Jund had no chill.
That's..so fucked up. She couldn't even let her god damn father be happy.
Yeah, I understand that it must be hard for her, with her mom being dead and all, but that really pisses me off.
it was from the last saturday stream. I was trying to find a timestamp since it was pretty early into the stream, but parts of the stream are muted and I can't find it atm.
It wasn't a big thing, cry quickly made it into a joke and they got off the topic pretty quick. I just thought it'd be neat if they got rid of it though.
I think it's a good call to tell plebs to get the hint "Cry doesn't want to talk about any chey topic and you will get ban until cry is ready to do so".
Also less spam in chat. Chat gets less annoying and whiny.
They can message mods, if they were banned, after cry has announced his chey issues. Kind of like a timed out but timed for a good reason amount of time. I'm pretty sure those people who might get banned are probably people that don't contribute in chat, don't pay attention, ask retarded questions and spam emotes. Good riddance I'd say.
Chat gets annoying with questions or can be really fun after stream video where cry and russ kinda dick around until they have settled on a game.
They get extra annoying after sub mode is off.
True, I'm not sure if ban the way to go, maybe 15 minutes timed out? Auto timed for mentioning of any type of chey keyword. Just like poppin kek.
I agree with you completely. I'm not a fan of Kiwo either, I hate when women feel like they have to be Mega Sexual to get attention. It's trashy. When she's not being sexual she's just… Talking so much in chat. Constantly. She's never chill. She's just being for attention and it's so annoying.
I do hope she'll burn out and go away, but enough people in chat like her and ask for her that I doubt that'll happen. Luckily it seems like the LNC isn't super interested in her.
I like OutstarWalker but damn, bringing Kiwo around was the absolute worst.
I don't think Outstar's to blame for that one. I'm sure Kiwo wasn't nearly as "enthusiastic" with her as she got when she was invited on the stream.
I do actually like her a lot too. I'd be happy if she became part of the Crew though I don't see that happening any time soon, if ever.
Well, it's not an uncommon opinion but:
a)Christine fucking knows and it's pretty underhanded that she's doing this.
b) I would assume Cheyenne would be mad about this, or at least pretend the tweets aren't there. I don't think she's dumb enough to publically agree. It'll make her look like both a hypocrite and an asshole, and I'm willing to bet people would call her out on it.
Going off my gut here, but nah.
It's not… No one interested in cry is going to be reading her posts. She has 228 followers.
the "only 20" thing makes he feel like sh'es talking about SOMETHING specific, but not Cry and Cheyenne
Also, personally, I'm going to lol. People do not magically become adults between the ages of 18 and 20. I was more mature at 17 than my brother is at 27. There are some life experiences that generally happen between points A and B like… graduating high school and maybe getting a job, or switching to fulltime from part time work or… maybe going to college, which is basically high school, but slightly different.
I'm not saying it's okay to date minors, but being 'over 18' doesn't make you an adult, and doesn't make it 'inappropriate' for you, 18 and a half year of age, to date someone who's 17 and a quarter.
She has a SUPER black and white perspective on this… so maybe she was in an unhealthy relationship as a teenager… but more likely, someone she already doesn't like is dating someone "too young" for them. Classmate maybe? "Ugh, Ricky is such scum. I heard he's dating a girl who's 17." "That predatory asshole"
….but yeah. She's not on anyone's radar, much less Cry's. Too obscure for shade throwin'
It'd be pretty easy to believe it's about Cry because of the fact that they live nowhere near each other.
I really hope her "visiting" him on his birthday pushes the announcement up because just imagine how embarrassing it'd be for her to not visit him and then someone finally calls Cheyenne out on her bullshit. I would love to hear her try to lie through that one. A simple "I couldn't afford to" or "he's too busy" would definitely not be believable at this point anymore.
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This was in Cheyennes likes.
I think it's supposed to be representative of how, because he's in love and only sees her (see the blindfold, as in "blinded by love" and the rose over his eyes like "rose coloured glasses") he has no need for contacts etc. OR, it could be that she has basically alienated him from his social life, hence only two likes, presumably one from him and one from her, but she not feeling the same way, is very active on social media (because she is not blinded by feelings for him) Plus, the lighting also seems like a clue, how he is in the light because his intentions are pure, whereas she hides her face from him, in the shadows, because…well, because she shady af lmao
If that's how the artist meant the message to be… the fucking irony kek
I also think that the shower is several other things too: it's a place where you're supposed to come clean. Wash away all the dirt of the day, etc.
It's also a place where we often go to be alone. When I was an angsty teen, the shower was one of the only places I knew I could not be bothered for a while.
Showering WITH someone kid of invites them into that intimate place.
I also really liked the analysis of art <3
(Qute from a Michael Jackson song, nice)
I'm pretty sure she just liked the picture because of the text, though.
Nothing more to it
inb4 wedding is just a cover and Angle is actually there to support Cry in some rough emotional situation.
Far fetched, yeah. But I had imagined Cry would tweet about no stream because he's at a wedding. And it's not like a wedding invitation comes last second either.
Also, folks: IT's wedding season. It's SO wedding season. There are SO many weddings this time of year.
I know it's far fetched. I was in a weird mood and there didn't seem much going on here either, so an ol' lurker like myself just typed nonsense. Sorry if it was unasked for.>>317082
Me neither. I meant like a phone call. Long distance friend(s) trying to reach you and really helping you out kinda stuff. If your best bros can't get through to you, maybe an Angel can lol. But I digress.
That's a pretty impressive analysis.
Are you an art student by any chance? :]
Same. But then again, that would get them more exposure and they don't even deserve "hater" views.
Also I feel like that Christine girl purposely posts bad pictures/videos of Cheyenne on her snapchat.
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If it wasn't obvious they were dating before…
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Are you guys taking about this? Because I don't think that counts. I couldn't find anything about her actually mentioning tinder in her tweets.
Just a closet artist, thank you though!
But that really is sus. What are the chances they're together though? Do we have any clues that they know each other outside of LNC???
Cheyenne tweeted a lyric to Arctic Monkey's R U Mine?https://twitter.com/_daaes/status/866846208265814016
And I'd put money on it being directed towards Christine. She's getting so blatant, it's confusing.
Are you saying Cry has potential feelings for Angel? I dunno that would be kinda weird considering the Russ and Angel stuff? >>318361
Like the other anon said. Nothing new is really happening so we just talkin' shit.
Even if they're just friends, didn't Russ try to hook up with her at one point in their private lives?
I remember a stream where Russ and Angel mentioned a pick-up line he used on her. The chat loved his pick-up line as a comedic one. Didn't score high on romance points however. Don't remember what the line was, though.
I think they just meant she's just tied to Russ and everyone assumes it's romantic, but she has stated they are just friends a lot.
She had also posted this at one point:http://xombiebrains.tumblr.com/post/159600959494/did-you-and-russ-break-up
Christine started commenting in chat at around 52:00 and their interaction went on until about 01:02:05.
It seemed like Jack/Jazzycat was really living for it too lmao.
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I don't know about that. Maybe we'll see something soon…
It seems that this Christine gal is as much tired of this Cry/Cheyenne bs as us. If she is now even on twitch she might be trying to make her own relationship as official/visible as possible.
I feel pity for her though. She really doesn't know what she is getting into with Cheybeast.>>321398
Indeed I think these next weeks are going to be very interesting..
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I find it hilarious that she retweeted this when she emotionally abuses people.
no, theres problems with the servers so she couldnt connect but I believe they will play later
(at least from what I understand)
Holy shit really? That'd be really cool. I see her in chat but haven't heard her talk. But even then, it's been a while since she's been in chat. >>322379
Once you retweet a few things about it, you're considered an angel. Who cares if someone had thoughts of suicide because of your own behavior before.
10k should be easy for a youtuber like Cry. It would be great if he made announcement vids for every stream.
Unless it's Esports or big charity speed runs, no pleb Twitch-only money/sub-train begging streamer will ever get 10k views. Nor should they ever deserve it. /rant
Can you guys stop? She's actually still a large streamer and a pretty big deal, of course she's going to participate, they all fucking do it. She's not even whoring herself out as much as his other mods do.
Kiwo is fine, dude, find something else to direct your anger at.
Cheyenne retweeted something like "While in stealth press square to kiss your wife."
Then right after apparently Christine tweeted on her account saying "I'm gay and my hands are weak"
So have we confirmed them dating yet? Or?
Then "assure" away.
Please chat logs. I say because I know you're just a random person with no evidence.
I know people in the LNC and I don't know anything for certain, never have, so please "assure" away.
I literally don't believe you, because you're full of bullshit.
Yes Chey and Christine are making it obvious, however literally even those in the LNC haven't heard more than that Cry and Chey are on a break. That much is obvious though, to people who stalk them on twitter, or have an IQ higher than 110.
Literally no one who knows anything for certain about Cry and his life would behave how you do. You either post shit or you shut the fuck up like the rest of us who know someone or you make yourself obvious as a bullshitter randomly flaming the pyre.
And you seem to be just another troll trying to misguide people with false positives.
Sweetie, I'm here now. I waited a very long time to get to this point. No one but Cry's best friends know shit We are aware of generalizations but literally we aren't his friends, and none of the LNCs friends are his friends. Shit he only talks to one of the people on the LNC regularly. He's a very private person and none of us know anything 100%.
Y'all are being ridiculous, claiming the LNC don't know. Come the fuck on, even if they're not "friends" which I'll allow depending on your definition of the word, they'd be asking questions when their literal coworker dropped off the face of the earth.>>324494
This is my first post in this conversation right now.>>324496
They might know something about cry and cheyenne, but they might not know much about the details. "I don't want to talk about it right now" or "we'll tell you something when there's something to tell" or "we're taking some time to think about shit for now. Keep quiet about the matter" all equate to about the same.
I'm an adult with an adult job. Believe me when I say that you can totally be in the dark about what the fuck your coworker is supposed to be doing or where they went. It's not a sign of a well or smoothly run company, but it absolutly happens.
I don't disagree with that, but you'd have and idea of what's going on even if they don't want to talk about it. Plus, this relationship was on the forefront so much, having Cheyenne disappear would raise questions even in the most cold professional climates.>>324505
Woah, I think you're misreading things. And as it happens, in most cases people work for their boss, not with them. Working with your boss makes your relationship a lot more personal.
I'm saying that Cry isn't retardd , he's seen this as a business since 2004. No one is actually involved in the inner working of him himself except him, he has been incredibly personal about his core identity if not ideals since then.
You can interpret what you want about him, dude is made up. He's a false identity. He'c the most successful liar on YouTube because he's the one person only maybe 12 people actually know the truth about him.
We are not his friends; Scott, Russ and Snake are not or are barely his friends. It's a fucking business, it has been for years.
Shit, most youtubers/streamers are actors. the job is to entertain. Very few people are "always on" as they say. Personas are to be expected. That's part of the job. Even if it's just deciding "I shouldn't say this" or "I want to make comments about that"…>>324509
> but you'd have and idea of what's going on even if they don't want to talk about it. Plus, this relationship was on the forefront so much, having Cheyenne disappear would raise questions even in the most cold professional climates.
was fired a few months back and it's still a mystery why. There are literally a dozen theories as to what happened and I'm STILL not positive who my new boss is. Office politics are fucked up.
Probably because it's a job for me…
It's my job…
My job outside of being a freelance artist which the job of being that affords, is to promote an image. There are dozens of us, nearly hundreds of us. If you don't the companies subcontracted… Oh great…
Literally I'm here and will be here. No one in the "inner circle" knows details about what is happening. I don't know specifics… If you claim otherwise or post something, or else you're bullshitting.. As a true red, white and blue whistleblower I won't give myself away, but jesus christ you fakes could do more if you think he actually just hands out this knowledge like flapjacks. (Hint: He doesn't, no one else does, he's a multi-million dollar business, don't trust people claiming to be friends knowing shit for certain without proof.)
That's all I have. Keep on believing I can't argue this logic…
Exactly. Fuck. That person has no idea what they're talking about. >>324560
I thought the same thing.
There's this thread on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Twitch/comments/5rk851/who_has_the_most_subs_on_twitch/
That talks about subs on twitch. They numbers they talk about are for the biggest players on twitch, and are no where near what you're talking about. The LNC isn't anywhere near their amount of viewers alone. You literally are spouting bullshit.
Sweetheart, I'm not the one claiming to know Cry here. I'm merely a viewer going off of observation. If anyone is "bullshitting" it's not me.
Also only these two were mine, out of those mentioned: >>324518>>324520>>324561>And the whole "they're not friends it's business"…what kind of sad life are you leading?
They started as a group of friends, and they care for one another as a group of friends would.
Amen to that.
You know I saw this said in Crys twitch chat last night, like almost exactly. Interesting.
But yeah, if you want someone to blame about not treating Cry like a human, I'd say blame Cheyenne. She's treated him like a punching bag and a money bag for far too long.
people that talk about cry's private life during his streams are literally the cancer of chat; provides nothing to stream, spread false rumors, spams chat, and totally completely so self-centered to do it somewhere that affects cry and chat in a negative way because they don't give a shit and want cry's attention.
Sadly cry is too nice to say anything nor do anything about it.
I also feel really bad for him this year. Literally nothing has gone well for him since 2017 started.
I really hope he feels alright on his birthday since I know birth-days feelings can be really strong due to all the build ups. Ahem sodapoppin/lea ahem.
She said that she was gonna start that when she had gotten her hair done.
But i watched the beginning of the VOD and she's getting a tattoo tomorrow, so i'm assuming she wants the extra money if ya know what i mean.
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Tuned into her stream out of morbid curiosity and caught this. Bwahahaha.
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And then this. She didn't reply, of course.
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Anyone else think Sage is so full of shit when she goes on and on about whatever she's preaching for the day, recently gaslighting, but then she either does those things herself or tries to be close friends with those that do? I feel like they, Sage & Cheyenne, have to be delusional to be so self-unaware.
As much as I love talking shit about Sage, I feel like maybe we shouldn't just because that gives her attention and she don't deserve that shit. But then again I can't tell you what not to do. So you do you, boo.
Speaking of though.. I love how Jen seems to get along with them all. I've even seen Angel and her tweet with each other. Plus Jund actually sounds really happy and less of an ass.
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guess who's gonna be on cheyenne's stream soon lmao. kinda interested to see how this will go.
I'm watching the last stream Cry did (Chill stream) and from 0:15 onwards you can see chat is realising that they may have broken up (and saying "no" to the idea of cheyenne joining the game kek). It's getting a bit ridiculous.>>327552
Sorry for being potato but will she be playing with Sage? Why is it tagged "late night crew" if it is the case then?
Watch out, 50k anon will probably show up and tell you how stupid you are for pointing out their fucking obvious relationship.
It's just dumb at this point. I can't think of a reason for their break up not being announced other than blackmail, which was theorized before. Nothing else makes sense unless he's scared of her doing something.
You misunderstand. The reason she wouldn't blackmail him is because Cheyenne isn't that dumb. She is a fame-whore though, and she knows the outcome of her blackmailing Cry is either nothing, or her being found out and getting backlash for it. Neither of those things are appealing to her, I'm sure. Plus if Cry was that much of a beta bitch to let her blackmail him after all of this, surely she'd still be on the Saturday streams or at the very least having back and forth with him on social media.
Instead what does she do? Post about a new relationship to garner attention, when her relationship with Cry has not been announced to have ended. That puts Cry in an awkward position, making him, in her mind at least, more likely to respond in some way (to her or viewers), since from everything we've seen there's radio silence between the two.
Looks like they're starting this pretty soon (Chey tweeted). I wonder if Cheyenne and Christine are playing with a group of people or not.
I've noticed this game is more fun when you're playing with all of your friends and not randos.
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Some of you guys are fuckin brutal.
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this is wayyy too close for just friends to be sitting.
I don't think it's too close for friends, but still, they are totally dating.>>328129
Funny enough, I'm pretty positive Hide_the_Bodies is a big Chey supporter. They are just joking.
There were also a few times where she tried to stick her tongue on Cheyenne's face. They definitely aren't just friends. It's very obvious in the way they look at each other too.
A lot of people are asking them to kiss on camera as well, and then the two joked that they'd do it for $500.
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Cry hosted Chey?? Wonder if this was intentional, bc Christine is there…
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I like how they treat their relationship like a joke yet cheyenne is sitting there with her hand on her leg
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Well, we don't actually know when their relationship started 'ending' and when it was 'over'…. but even more than that…
Change is a weird thing. It happens INSTANTLY and over long times at the same time.
We can resolve to change–just like we decide to quit smoking, or quit drinking. But when can you say you've really quit? When you make the decision? a few weeks later? Must it be years before you can truly say you've quit?
It all does start SOMEWHERE… Journeys, single steps and all that.
I'm not saying I have have a lot of faith in Cheyenne or anything, but… I've had an abusive buddy before. (seriously verbally and emotionally abusive) … after about a decade, they're a pretty good friend now. I didn't speak to them for half of that time, though. But I believe people can change, if they really want to.
The question is… Does Cheyenne really wanna?
Can you give me an example? I haven't been watching most of the streams with Cheyenne in them.>>328255
At this point I think Cry is hoping Cheyenne will slowly fade out of everyone's memory, without him having to say anything.>>328256
That's the thing really, Cheyenne hasn't been showing any signs of wanting to change.
Did she? Examples? My memory's failing me.>>328255
That is an interpretation of things. We don't really know the details.
ANother theory is that: 1) Chey was dumped by Cry. 2) Cry wants to announce it at some point that isn't RIGHT NOW… 3) a long time passes because he hasn't done it yet 4) and here we are now.
Cry reminds me a lot of me sometimes… In his position, I'd have put it off initially, because I didn't want to confront it while the emotions were still raw. Then when I started feeling better about it, started feeling bad because it's been so long, then find a reason to put it off a bit–like centering myself a bit better emotionally and reconnecting myself to the important things, like family and shit. Then I can't because I've feeling moody. Then there's an important event and I don't wanna ruin my mood by talking about this before it. Then I feel bad because it's been a couple months when I only meant for it to be a week or two, so put it off AGAIN because I feel guilty and won't do it right and I want to do it right and not just force it out. But it never really gets easier and I eventually think about it less and less because I feel bad whenever I do, and eventually I start wondering if it's really even necessary because, hey, maybe everyone's forgotten, but I really should do it ANYWAY… but I don't want to, it'll bum me out, so maybe next week.
That said, that's me, and I'm not Cry… so maybe Cry would be totally different on the matter, haha. but…
That's just my 2 cents on what COULD be.
> That's the thing really, Cheyenne hasn't been showing any signs of wanting to change.
Well, I"ll take your word for that one. I haven't been watching her particularly closely. It can be hard to see change, though, if you're looking for evidence of same-ness.
Ugh, I can't believe I'm defending her… if only slightly.
That's a good interpretation anon. Though I think we are underestimating Cry, while he was still a bit moody back in april he was a lot better in may. He also seems to not give a shit about Chey anymore (no mention, nothing). I just don't see why he would be the one to postpone the announcement of the breakup other than not look like the bad guy? Chey has a lot more to lose in the situation (fame, financing, etc.).
Also there was some drunk anon earlier who claimed it was Chey who refused to announce it (>>309144). No way to know if legit but it seemed like a credible explanation imho
11:20 is where the issue happens. She's super upset she didn't get to kill a snail. You can hear her furiously typing to Cry in Skype.
16:15 they start arguing about it. She turns it around on him for being upset at her for her getting upset and tries to make it seem like she was in the right the whole time.
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Christine sure knows how to take the worst pictures of Cheyenne. She looks huge here. Lazy eye in full effect too.
To be honest, you must have your head shoved real far up Cry's ass if you don't think he was being fucking ridiculous too. Cheyenne actually only pointed out that someone messed up, albeit in the bitchiest and most unhelpful way possible. Cry's whole "defending a man's honor" thing was fucking annoying and unfounded.
They're both children, guys. Let's be real.
But…Technically–and I hate to say this–she WAS right the whole time. She tols them what the video had explained, and then everyone else disregarded it and did it their way anyways, therefore doing it, well, wrong. Just like Chey said, it was a mistake anyone could have made, she never BLAMED him, she just pointed out that he'd fucked up in a bitchy manner.
Seriously, I get that youre fans of his, but he's truly not as flawless as you think.
I actually really disagree. Cry's trying to defuse the situation, hand wave it away "now we know, and it won't happen again" type stuff. but she kept bringing it back up. Then started talking about how she knew the whole time, etc etc etc.
The whole defending a man's honor thing… that was basically cry saying "I'm not going to let you blame him, because tha'ts out of line.
The really sad thing is.. I'm listening to this argument, and they fucking actually really AGREE< but they use different words. She's saying "He fucked it up" and means it like "it was his hand that created the accident." she's not necessarily saying it was done with maliciousness… as in "Tommy bumped into the table, and broke the vase" … Tommy did it. Not out of anger or avarice, but it was Tommy.
…Cry. on the other hand, is saying that he didn't do anything wrong
… He's seeing an element of blame placing. To him, saying "Tommy did it" means that Tommy's at fault. Placing blame rather than stating a fact.
It's an interesting perspective difference that says a lot about both of them, in my opinion: Cry wants to smooth it over and move on. No one needs to be singled out, or have fingers pointed at them. Cheyenne wants to acknowledge that the error was committed by an individual. Cry wants to move past the conflict and forget about it, Cheyenne wants to establish the actors involved in a series of actions. In a way, asserting her own innocence.
It's kinda the difference between "It's okay" and "it wasn't me!"
To clarify: I actually think Cheyenne's really bitchy about the whole thing and she does take some sudden right turns in her arguing, but she should have jsut took the damn subtle hint and left it alone. Even if she's not trying to point a finger at someone for ruining her fun, other people clearly wanted it to be left alone.
It actually speaks a lot of her empathy, I think–most people realize by her age that no one wants to be singled out over an accident.
Or she doesn't care.
That's some impressive psychological shit there anon, I completely agree.
I felt very uneasy when watching this clip, if anything it shows her need to gain the upper hand on everybody, very perveted imho.
cute as fuck too
like christ what a waste if true I don't know what she sees in Chey
The only thing I could find that was recent (6 days ago) was someone referencing some drama stirred up about SeriousGaming but there was no context. The person who posted it had erased their other threads but had said they were accused of starting 'a hate parade over cryaotic' but I think they were referencing hate for SeriousGaming but I have no idea. I couldn't find anything else. https://www.reddit.com/r/serious_gaming/comments/6dodbm/i_didnt_intend_on_posting_anything_after_i_left/
Sage for not being relevant.
Ah, okay. Thanks for that, anon. I guess I should up my Reddit game lul.
So yeah, nothing to see here then, move along!
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Why does Cheyenne think we always want to hear about her gross fantasies. No one wants to think about you getting fucked, cheybeast. I feel sexually harassed lol
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And this is the main reason why. They're actually confirmed, and are a mod/friend of Cry's. I wouldn't trust anyone but Simp on here, unless someone else is willing to confirm themselves like this.
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Did she finally realise that Cry is moving on and she won't be able to ride the gravy train any longer? Lul.
Honestly, fuck the people who are going to feel bad. All they're doing right now anyway is supporting an abusive 'relationship'.
Screw the people who don't realise how much of a cunt she is.
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Oh my god.
If I were a man I would turn gay after Cheyenne too.
Wait. Maybe it was the plan all along? :D
Both Cheyenne and Cry said they were pansexual.
Not this shit again. It's what he has said himself, alright? >>329753
Uh-huh, yep. 100% skips the porn, I'm positive.
Porn is weird.
I like different types of porn at different times. Some types of pornography are serious turn offs despite me being 'into' the sort of thing that they show. (I mean, I like gay male stuff. I fucking hate the slow ups on hairy assholes and stuff.)
Some types of porn as more likely than others to aim towards certain aesthetics and a certain audience. Like Lesbian-porn-for-men-audiences is gross and weird. Lesbian-porn-for-girls is fantastic though.
So, what I'm saying is… Cry can totalyl be as pansexual as he likes and still skip over the porn bits, because he doesn't like the kind of sex-story that they have.
Especially if he's watching awful porn for the stories, and not for the porn parts, he probably has other types of stuff he likes when eh wants to whack it to gaystuff.
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crosses fingers that cry doesn't reply
never mind just saw the ones anon was talking about. she's mentioned before that she scars really easily from things like her dog scratching her and all, and that she has never self-harmed.
but she is one to threaten to hurt herself to get what she wants so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Threatening to hurt ones self isn't the same as actually hurting one's self.
Love, an Anon who's COVERED in accidental kitty scratches, and several scars that look like suicide attempts due to the joy of working in fast food with hot griddles.
Sorry! I misinterpreted what you meant when you said "she says she's never self armed, but she's threated to" as meaning "so maybe she has"
ahh, nah you're fine. i honestly worded it kinda odd :)
also i have those pictures of her arms and all. should i share them anyway?
<3 a little bit, but I also read too much into it :)
and yes, please share pictures. I'm old and don't know how to snap the instagrams.
You know what I do when I need to save up to move across the country? Get a tattoo. Because those aren't expensive.
Cheyenne's fucking full of it.
Also this >>330211
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Here ya guys go~
Knowing Chey she probably did it to manipulate someone. "look what you made me do!!" >>330246
Such a shitty tattoo. She couldn't have it stylized in some way? Instead of huge impact font wrapped around her fucking forearm? It looks so fucking bad.
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My first thought was Chey tried to hack his account…
Off topic but I wouldn't get words in general. If people staring at your tattoos gets old, imagine when they're trying to read them. I know a girl who covered up a quote she had because she got sick and tired of people trying to read it and asking what it meant.>>330360
You're being silly. It's people trying to get passwords and shit from him, he would have that happen. It happens to me and I'm nobody.
I hate to defend, but … it's in blocky impact font because that's the 'right' font. This is a specific fan thing, from the X-Files.
Changing the font would be like getting "harry potter" or "star wars" tattooed on your arm in times new roman, or a loopy cursive script.
It's not pretty, I wouldn't do it, but that's the "right" font for this fan tattoo.
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yeah the font is fine bc it makes it obvious it's in reference to the x-files, but the size and placement is weird
I don't particularly feel strongly about Chey in any particular way. I've tuned into her stream before, hung out in chat, talked to a few of her friends as well. Pretty ambivalent, don't think good or ill of her. (Except her hair, yeesh.)
I just like drama because I'm a petty little fucker.
Different anon here…
I dunno. To some degree, someone doing shitty things should cause bad emotions in even unconnected people.
Using 'kicking puppies' as a generic for 'doing mean or reprehensible things' without specifically mentioning offenses…
Someone who kicks puppies should be viewed negatively by everyone around them. After all, the fact that the puppy was not YOUR puppy, doesn't make the kicked puppy less kicked. And one should be wary because even if they don't kick every puppy, your puppy–or kitten, or bearded lizard–could be next.
Of course, the likelihood of Cheyenne being able to kick YOUR puppy (or your mom's puppy, or friend's puppy, or brother's girlfriend's little sister's puppy) is incredibly small… but as a general rule, kicking puppies is a bad thing and we should regard puppy kickers negatively. Because being 'okay' with puppy kicking, as long as it's not YOUR puppy promotes a rather dangerous viewpoint.
That attitude enables puppykickers: after all, if you can kick any puppy you want as long as you pick your victims well, then there's no reason to become a better person and not kick puppies. If you want to kick well connected puppies, you have a problem, but there's no shortage of weak, unconnected, vulnerable puppies who can't fight back.
So we really should view all puppy kicking with negativity, if we'd object to our own personal puppies being kicked. (and really, no one should really be okay with their own puppies being kicked.)
different, however, is that Cheyenne is not personally known by Anon. And you can and will feel differently about someone who is personally distant to you.
After all, if someone who kicks 5 puppies is 3000 miles away and kicks a bunch of strange puppies who you don't know, that's a shame, and it's a bad thing, but it's not like feeling badly for those poor puppies will unkick them, or that hating the kicker will make them stop kicking… But if those 5 puppies are the puppies around you every day, if those are YOUR puppies (or your sister's puppies, or your boyfriend's mother's puppies), then the puppy kicking becomes personal. You will feel much more strongly about the matter. Those were YOUR puppies, and YOUR puppies never deserved kicking, and you can hate the kicker, because they're a real person who has, personally, really affected you and your puppies in a way that the far distant puppykicker in a town you've never heard of could never, personally, affect you.
So… I guess, to wrap it back around to Cheyenne… It's totally okay not to hate her. Hate is a really super strong word, and while we might dislike her and dislike what she does, the actual emotion of 'hate' is a really strong one that is generally reserved for very personal encounters. I 'hate' a lot of people, but if I were writing down a list of people I truly hated… that list would have… I think… 2 or 3 people. And each of those have committed high crimes of puppy kicking that very directly affected me, or a loved one. But there are a lot of people I don't care about. There are a lot of people I dislike. There are a lot of people I find annoying. But that's a different emotion than hate.
It's okay to not feel personally about Cheyenne. She's an internet face. She's kicked puppies, puppies we may care about, but that puppy kicking doesn't actually hurt us. But we should feel negatively towards the act of puppy kicking, even if those are strange, distant puppies we'll never meet ourselves.
mmm. That's fair enough. I've had my 'puppies kicked' enough that I feel strongly about puppy kickers in general. I can't ever imagine kicking a puppy myself, so someone who DOES kick puppies loses my respect… much as, like you, Cry has earned my respect over the years.
I'm pretty sure that this makes you the better person than I am? (being able to, as they say, hate the sin, not the sinner) but I'm old and irritable, and sick of people walking around thinking that they can kick puppies because they feel like it.
Most of all, Cry is best puppy. :)
I'm with you. I think those who tend to be harsher with the person and not just the action are maybe more empathetic/passionate about it just from having experienced it themselves.
Sometimes, people make mistakes and we should judge the action more than the person.. but when the person continuously does that terrible action, even after it's been shown to them over and over again how terrible it is, you gotta judge the person. It is so enraging in Cheyenne's case because she had so many times where she could have said to herself "Wait, I'm hurting so many people, what am I doing?" but she didn't care and continues, to this day, to blame everyone around her instead of changing.
Thanks for that <3 And thanks for making me spend some time thinking about me and how I feel. That's never a bad thing either. :)
That said, there is some benefit is being able to remove passion and be more analytical. I think it's probably the sort of thing that would make one a good judge or lawyer or doctor or something. Myself, I wanted to be a therapist, but realized I'd care too much.>>331473
it gets tricky, when there's time involved. sometimes a big external change is what people need to initiate personal change. BUt it takes time to change ones' way of acting. That said, I think it's really hard for someone to be in a relationship and change while in that relationship. I mean, it's easy to stop being lazy and wash the damn laundry… but things like personal interaction is a long slow process.. and a single misstep can send you back months…. and even if you do change, your partner will be watching, closely, and be inclined to see monsters in the shadows, and see the memory of harsher actions. It's not impossible.. but.. it's hard.
I hope she grows up and realizes that the problem is her one day. You can change yourself, after all. But if you expect everyone else to change, you're gonna have problems.
In other news, what's up with Cry's computer stuff? I think I missed some tweets or something.
Basically, yea, what the other person said:
We're pretty much sure they've broken up. There's been nearly no public interaction between them for a few months. We've had several people saying "I KNOW THE TRUTH" but turned up nothing. we did have one set of leakers that actually confirmed that they were who they said they were… an the info from them was that Cry probably read the thread and did some thinking and broke up with her…. but now we're waiting for an official announcement on their breakup.
Theories range from "she has blackmail" to "He's procrastinating" to "he's delaying to try and minimize the impact on her since he has some very dedicated fans"
Oh and there's some strong evidence that Cheyenne has a girlfriend now… but they could just be really close galpals. Maybe.
Oh and some people think sh'es trying to make Cry jealous with this information, but I don't buy that.
Hmmmm… It's hard to say. I could believe that she'd do it, but it doesn't feel right.
Okay, she's got two ways she can go around this:
Privately and publicly.
Privately would be via skype, text message and whatever the cool kids are doing these days. IRC maybe? If she's doing it privately, then that means that they are either chatting regularly (which I doubt as their twitter exchanges have shifted from 'cry posted to/at Cheyenne 99% of the time' to 'cheyenne posts to/at Cheyenne and he replies once' to "cheyenne tweets at him and he doesn't reply" Their last tweet exchange on apr22 and Apr 6th… which was the last time he tweeted to her.. she tweeted to him on Jun 5, may 4th.. commented about him on Apr 25 … sooo I don't think they're communicating regularly, because if they were, there'd be no reason for the tweeting to taper off.) …
If they're chatting regularly, then we can expect that she'd be tucking in mentions to make him jealous through their regular conversation. Except I doubt they are.
If they're not chatting regularly, then any guilt attempts would be really obvious via private message.
So that takes us to public talk. Their only public interaction that we've been seeing is Twitter. Which, I've detailed above. However, she's posting about the girl and what not. So, y'know it could be, however… by posting about a girl she's trying to imply that she's involved with… places it out in a very public place. so, by trying too obviously to make him jealous, she implies that she's cheating on him, since the public word is that they're still together. and that makes her look bad.
So, I don't think that she'd attempt to imply that that she was cheating on him just to make him jealous.
I might be giving her too much credit though… but I do think that the problem is more that he just hasn't dealt with announcing the break up… as detailed here by some mysterious anon: >>328258
and she's continued on with her life, and is just keeping the actual girlfriend bit on the down low.
But I could also be totally wrong and it's all an attempt to make him jealous. :)
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Remember when V2 had a gofundme page link that would automatically repeat in Cry's chat? It was to see a girl because he apparently didn't have any funds to see her. Mhmm.
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Cheyenne removed that stupid 'I slept with a YouTuber and all I got" line from her Instagram.
Hm, I'd forgotten about that one. Well, like I said, I might be wrong :D
My first though was "maybe that was before Christine," but also nope!
So who knows. I still don't THINK she is, though.
Still an interesting datapoint, though, as that was May 5th. Christine wandered into the picture around March 29thish. (for us)
This clearly means… … … I have no idea.
The spanking could have been some sort of long standing joke or reference.Some sort of "I like spanking" "You're too much of a wuss to get spanked" "i'll show you wrong" or … something. I have no idea what, but it COULD be some form of something like that. (I dunno… this seems realish: "You're bad for me. I don't need to be in a relationship with you." "yeah you're right. I'm a very bad girl :(" snapchat of spanking
"You are completely missing the point.")
That ALSO said, getting spanked isn't necessarily a "trying to make you jealous" thing–especially as there's a paddle of some sort in use, not just a hand or whatever.
That ALSO said, it does fit a bit into a narative: They twitter chat on april 6th and 22nd. She tweets at him on May 4th (this tweet was SARAH in reply to a cat picture–presumably the cat's name.)… then, on May 5th, spanking video. then… nothing.
So, might have been a "hey you didn't reply to me, so I'mma poke you" or .. .whatever the fuck.
But naw, I think my 'not trying to make him jealous' theory does break down a little in the face of that…. but It could just be coincidence too.
Most people don't update every social media channel at once. So, I wouldn't worry too much about that disparity, except in that it means maybe it'll disappear in other places soon.
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Hate to burst your bubble, but i dont think she ever had that on her IG. I think it was just tumblr, and its still there.
I'm going to be be seriously surprised if it's not announced within the next week at most-
Cheyenne's claimed she's going to be back on late night, she never came back.
She said she's going to visit Cry for his birthday. His birthday is tomorrow and she's still in Vegas.
I know that some people still do believe they are together, but if Cheyenne and Cry really did make a deal to announce the breakup at a certain point, or if they're going to continue to keep it a secret..I'm honestly sort of offended that Cry would think we're dumb enough to believe it.
Lol, did you get that information from Cheyenne? I know she thinks he wants to announce it because he found someone else, instead of that maybe he's tired of her mooching off his name for 4-5 months, which he only agreed to to be nice and make the transition easier on her.
I don't think she deserves that kindness but whatever.
> I know that some people still do believe they are together, but if Cheyenne and Cry really did make a deal to announce the breakup at a certain point, or if they're going to continue to keep it a secret..I'm honestly sort of offended that Cry would think we're dumb enough to believe it.
You gotta remember. we're "woke". We've gotta whole shit ton of information from lots of different people, spread around and watching from lots of different sources, lots of different people thinking about it and offering their perspective, building on what everyone else is saying.
Your standard fan? Watches streams when they manage to catch them, watches youtube videos. Maybe twitter too, maybe not.
So your average fan, catching one stream out of three, wonders a little about cheyenne, but recalls a few weeks back when cry said something vague about how "she's busy and is doing her own thing" and lets it go.
and near as I can tell… no one's REALLY talking about it, except us. So while most people might go "I wonder what's up with Cheyenne?" they'll just assume that they missed her being around, or not not. They're not seeing the repeated ignoring of questions. They're not seeing the offhanded dismissals again and again. They probably not watch Cheyenne stream, so they're not saying that. They're not watching her at all, because Cry's the one we're all here for. (srs: Cry's got 400K Twitter followers. Cheyenne has 31.8K… )
(completely on the side note: Looking at Socialblade, for the last month, Cheyenne's twitter loses an average of 3 followers a day.. Cry gains an average of 37 a day. All said, it's hardly rats from a ship, but amusing all the same. I can't see long term projections for her, but this seems to have been a trend that started about a month ago…)(anyway, back on topic..)
So, most people just aren't paying attention to the big picture because they don't have any real reason to be. I mean, I am sporadic at getting to watch the LNC streams. To me, it's been ages since I've heard snake on. I assume I've just missed him, though. Not that he and cry ended their friendship or anything.
It's REALLY easy to assume that everything's alright when you're not always around. We're the ones being stalkerish level and scraping together every shread of evidence of everything we have.
Don't be insulted by what Cry seems to be doing. We're the 1%. we're even smaller than that. There are probably only a couple dozen of us that participate in any real conversation here and probably a few hundred rare or non-participants.
Also, I agree with the idea that Cry will do announce things after he gets his computer back– going off of my procrastination/guilt theory, anyway… the last week or two would have been "shucks. I can't, it's terrible. but I'm legitimately off the hook. Not my fault… I'll do it when I have my computer again." … If i had to guess.. probably get a youtube video or two out (if he has his network shit figured out)(and even if not, probably an update video) and probably, a stream or two.>>333383
> Cheyenne does, though, since she's the one that's been keeping it going, with her statements.
Eh, I wouldn't place blame too hard–saying 'no' is really hard… ignoring questions while trying not to isolate your viewers means that you have to bullshit out some answers. and if it's been CRY that has said "not yet, wait please" to her, and THATS why she's been putting all this off, it's not fully her fault that she picked a poor delaying method. especially if maybe the plan was for her to be on LNC again for a "so yeah, bye." or a winddown puzzle or whatever.
But that's just one possible view point on this and I think it's important to remember that we will probably never know everything that happened here. Maybe in 3 or 4 years if we get cry talking about it some time, but … not REALLY.
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Totally non milk related, but bless this man. <3
(also, conspiracy: Puppies and kitties can make a hard day easier if you're expecting to explain breakups. Also I don't think this is true. But kitties. :) )
A man: Does the bare minimum
You guys: Bless him omg ?
Shit, you're right. I remember that!
This actually might be there year I can sub to Cry again. I've missed those emotes, honestly.
Maybe a nice fuzzy critter compilation as a background video for the 'talking about Cheyenne' thing?
I think he's gonna talk about it on youtube. I say this because he can get all of his thoughts out, edit out the places where he gets lost or shares too much, or whatever and turn some long ramble into something more succinct. And this way, it can also be easily referred to whenever someone asks about Cheyenne, so he doesn't have to repeat himself over and over again.
Christ, if this ends up on the website like 12 times, I'm sorry. The farm's been having issues all night and this is my last try to post this shit before I go to bed. I dunno if shit might explode and post 30 times at once in a few minutes.
I'd say so. I've really been enjoying his content lately, when he uploads that is.
I'm excited for him to get all the computer stuff sorted out.
Yeah, he has been 100% more upbeat in general. The problem is he's had some serious youtube issues lately: Network and demonetization issues, as I recall, then something went fucky with his new computer.
If ya want something to watch, his 24 hour stream with Yakuza 0 on his twitch channel is pretty awesome. –just, the games' no where near over and it's a 24 hour stream, so it's got a lot of minigame play.
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You're on an imageboard. Provide images.
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Since the above anon isn't providing pictures, here you guys go.
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thanks, I didn't want to give her one more follower lul>>333949
I know others may disagree but I think she is still kinda hung up on him
For one.. . I don't htink I agree. The image here >>333945
seems to be saying ""thought I was dumped, I still miss you." which would fit the cry-dumped-her narrative.
That said, I wouldn't read too much into liked posts. The idea of the post, anyway, is "I miss my old relationships" and "I want a good relationship"… these don't have to be directly related to exactly her life circumstances, or even her most recent life happenings.. I know I like/reblog/whatever shit all the time that I laugh at, or felt some 'kinship' to.
She well might be still hung up on him. But you can also be hung up on just the idea of missing an old relationship, or the reliability of it.
You don't have to have gone through something exactly to "feel it" enough to hit 'like'.
I mean, I've been happily married for a decade and I still occasionally post shit like that because it's relatable. almost everyone has a failed relationship or a relationship that they regret ended.>>333970
Ooh? the 'break' versus 'break up' thing is new to me. maybe I missed it.
Ooh, so it wasn't just an act on her behalf.
That was a smart move from Cry. Surely it wouldn't have gone over as smoothly if he'd broken up with her straight up.
W…what exactly do you want? for her to abandon the dog because they broke up? Or to stop caring about it? Or..???
Seriously confused what you think the reasonable reaction is?
>>334756>Not romantically involved
They flirt constantly, talk about being together, she was posting that she was sad she wasn't going to see Cheyenne for a month, they give each other literal fuck me eyes >>328206
Totally not romantically involved. What kinda friends do you have?
I didn't say I thought it was likely, but I've actually seen similar situations before. It's totally the sort of thing where romantic attachments end up happening, but two people who need attention can and will gravitate to one another.
Just, this does offer some explanation as to WHY they might be together. emotional vulnerability, etc.
Throughout the past 6 months recent I know forsure. I'm not positive about any earlier, Like I said, friends of friends.
I'm also not positive about her age. If I had to guess though, I suppose I'd say around 24-25? I don't know.
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Well, she posted this. So, by her word, she's 20. She might not be, but…
I think she looks more mature as well, but in the streams she seems to have that fun personality that shows how young she really is.
I actually think Christine is pretty and seems really nice. It's sad that she got caught up in Cheyenne's shit storm.
Huh, guess you're right! Interesting.
And yeah, I do really enjoy her, and honestly if she streamed independently i would watch it.
I feel bad that she's apparently so ill, I can imagine Cheyenne would use that to her advantage, which makes me feel sick.
Oh my god, I swear for me it was edited. It had nothing about Cry but i guess it was a bug. My bad guys. >>335325
to be fair, she hasn't really streamed. which i think it's because she knows more people are most likely to ask about that there. or people had already forgotten.
Honestly, we probably deserve to be autosaged. We haven't had any milk in months. More like a flash of udder once in a while.
I'd continue with the analogy but it gets pretty gross.
In their defense, they are lied to continuously. "I just wanted my Saturdays back" "I just needed a break" "Cheyenne just wanted to do her own thing for a bit"
And people aren't usually observant enough to notice she never wished him Happy Birthday or actually went to visit them. Most people would assume they missed it on their timeline and just wouldn't think to look, or care enough to look. It's pretty much just us that care enough to pick up on patterns.
I hate calling those 'lies'… there shoudl be another word for that…. kind of thing. Just as a linguistics thing. there shoudl be another word.
Anyway, yeah: few people read as obsessively as we do. :)
white lies? or like. yeah. white lies.
i wouldn't say it's dishonesty but moreso avoiding the topic at hand. chey hasn't mentioned anything at all so it's just us guessing at this point. i wouldn't be surprised if somewhere down the road they drop the 'oh it's been a while since we were together!'
Honestly I think he wanted to announce it but with his computer freaking out it kind of got away from him and now he's back at the should I, shouldn't I stage.
I wish he'd just do it. Not for us whiny fucks or the ones constantly asking questions, but because it's something left unfinished and I'm sure he's thinking about it and it weighs on him.
>it's a bit insulting to our intelligence that they (Cheyenne) were acting as if everything was fine and would return to normal
Did you read the bit about Cheyenne thinking they were just on a break? It makes a lot of sense that that was the case.
> Did you read the bit about Cheyenne thinking they were just on a break? It makes a lot of sense that that was the case.
Not the person you're replying to.
Breaking up can be really fucking hard. One person says they want to end things. They have a discussion. The person initiating the breakup, not being an asshole, tries to offer kind words. After all, no one wants to say "I'm done being in a relationship with you, and also I hate you"… they say "no, it's not that you're awful, just we don't work well together. I still care about you."
and they have a long, deep, painful conversation, and at the end of it, two people walk away with a lot of hurt, but you can have two drastically different ideas about the conclusion of that conversation. Sure, there are problems, there are issues, but after all, if both of you still care, then maybe you just need some time apart.
And when you care… admitting that it's over can be the hardest thing in the world.
I've been there twice: First time I thought "I still love you" meant that we'd make it work. that we could fix it. They weren't firm. They weren't clear. (And honestly, I don't think they were sure what they wanted either.) … I dangled on for months, clinging to every kind word they offered.
Second time was different, and was a case where they told me "no, we're over, but you can stay for now." and I hung in there and was persistent and 8 years later, I'm still here and we worked things out.
Sorry to blog, but s'relevant enough.
I can easily see Cry not being.. assertive or clear or too gentle, and them miscommunicatinlg. Hell… maybe it even WAS 'a break' and cry realized he was happier.
Hellx2, maybe it was a break, and he hasn't officially declared it over, and they're both lingering.
Only half an hour into a call though, it could just be that they jumped onto a call for her to snapchat or something.
Seriously, Cry wanted to make an announcement but he's still going along with her?
….could it be that Cry accepted because Chey redirected this on her twitter (and he felt obligated)?: https://twitter.com/painhub/status/863740333133312001
A bit far-fetched I know but knowing the personnality of Cry…
I just realised the lyrics are "Baby you know that I miss you
I wanna get with you tonight " and she posted this on the actual day before the movie night.
So yeah she is the one who wanted this..
**broken up :c
Christine did tweet that she would be leaving for a month (I'm assuming she'll be in California because she mentioned the state in a stream). Sure, Cheyenne and Cry's relationship is online, but with Christine being away and not occupying Cheyenne, it gives her any chance she can to try and get back in touch with Cry.
Also just a theory.
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This was posted to her snapchat. Sorry about it being blurry that was the best screenshot I could get.
she's going to cali for a convention which isn't on until early july. i think she might be just taking a vacation lol
doesn't seem like they've broken contact or anything, it just looks like natural space. i suppose chey is bouncing back and forth between christine and cry.
Too many fuckin C names here.
but since Chey posted the song on twitter and the movie night on snapchat, Christine is bound to see them, wherever she is no?
anyway, Chey is just acting desperate imo. No chance at this point to change Cry's decision (calling it).
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look at the big picture and trust your guts anon. Their behaviour would make no sense if they were still together and you know it.
also yes it IS too good to be true, who need drama films when you have good 'ol youtubers doing their thing? Just sit back and enjoy the show.>>336108
LMAO she is desperate all right
He also didn't even respond to it though. Maybe >>336073
was right, and she's just being desperate, because MAYBE he's close to actually announcing they're done? I dunno. I'm not gonna be worried about shit Cheyenne says
ye I'm that anon. I want to add something:
1) Cry and Chey take a break, Chey is salty on twitter
2) Cry is a bit moody
3) Chey likes stuff on instagram about exes and whatsnot (see end chapter 5)
4) Chey send the film where she is getting spanked by someone to Cry. Cry doesn't react.
5) Cry gets gradually better. Cry doesn't give a shit about Chey (no mention)
6) enter Christine, her and Chey overexpose their friendship/relationship something on social media, get on twitch and act all couply.
7) Cry still doesn't give a shit
8) Chey hints that she is sad on twitter, likes stuff on instagram about exes and whatsnot
9) some anon bring info that cry told her he was moving on
10) Christine now sad, Chey tries to hit on Cry again.
Does anybody have another interpretation/timescale? That is why I think she is acting desperate right now.
I don't think the announcement thing changes anything. Even if it's Cry delaying, she might take it too as a opening and hope to be back ("he is not sure after all! I just need to convince him!" for ex.)
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LOL this passive-agressive warzone. I'm enjoying this way too much.
If you are wondering why Chey posted this particular comment on Cry's post: Cry is telling in his own way that he doesn't want a certain category of message. First in the mailbox then on his skype. Daddy = Cheyenne
If he is talking about his dad at face value then Cheyenne's comment makes no sense (and would be rather inappropriate).
He is basically telling her to stop messaging, she is saying "no I really want you to call me". If you think it's far fetched then so be it, but looking at their past interactions they are capable of doing this sort of double-speak.
I also agree that this is stretching. Cry really doesn't like his biological father. If he even knows him. I"m not sure on that. But I know he's had a string of shit mom-boyfriends that he hates.
My husband has some deep hatred of his father and he really hates all the father's day stuff too.
but man, Christine's comment chain.. total lols… so many ways to read it.
It is stretching. Cry has well-known father issues, and so understandably doesn't like to be reminded about them, but it happens with Father's day being everywhere.
Cheyenne's comment was inappropriate, in that aspect, but a lot of other people did it too. Like Jund. Her back and forth with Christine is fantastic, though, because it does seem like she may have gotten jealous about it.
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Jesus, Cheyenne. Make up your damn mind already.
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@ the anon who knows Christine through common friends, do you know if she has somebody who can help her right now, or something?
Because I'm not reassured looking at this kind of tweet man…
Not who you're replying to.
That said, no, we're not a hotline. We're a thread/forum/whatever on website devoted to pointing out what a shitfaced selfish brat Cheyenne is.
We are here to appreciate that she's a pretty awful human being, who needs to grow up and learn to care about others.
So, at least from where I'm sitting: we don't gotta be angels or anything, but, y'know, we should try not to be awful shitfaced selfish brats.
I'm sure she does have people who can help her, anon. Don't worry alright?
Anyway, when's shit gonna happen? We've been patient for quite a long time. Actually a lot of people have. I get it takes time and all but if Cry doesn't do it soon then he's never gonna do it. For all he knows, it could be the only thing giving him the stress, not what people could do. Who cares if she even does gets some backlash. The girl has been giving it to people for years.
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Then why did you reply if you wanted to drop it? Getting involved is cow-tipping. That anon was right to say that we're not a hotline, we're just here to watch.
Jesus. Because there are multiple people involved in the conversation–not just you and me. I had hoped that by suggesting that we drop it, that, crazily enough, people would drop it, and stop posting about something that happened 3 days ago, and is generally in every respect pointless to continue discussing, except in the respect that it gives us some insight into Cheyenne's girl-thingy's state of emotional wellbeing. Or not well being, as the case may be.
It's pretty crazy and innovative, I know.
Anyway, in an (desperate) attempt to be on topic:
I notice Cry posted a couple hours ago about "I forgot how therapeutic editing can be"… Now, I know he hasn't done too much editing over the last couple months in general, but doesn't he usually stream his editing sessions? But he didn't stream this one: So: Rusty and not feeling like streaming? Or, hoping to avoid the strong intimacy and levels of viewer-interaction that a editing stream usually brings? … Or to be more blunt about it, avoiding questions about Cheyenne?
Pretty sure editing alone without any distractions is far more therapeutic than streaming it ever would be.
Streaming is essentially just free ego-boost since it's just ass-kissing fans anyway who have nothing better to do in life.
He commented a few … months ago, I think, that he liked having people around. That "chill youtube cry" is generally "lonely cry"…
So it depends, I think, on a lot of complicated emotional details about how cry deals with people and self-therapy and a lot of shit.
That also said: Streaming is kind of how he makes most of his money, since his youtube is pretty fucked up at the moment. So I'm not really sure I'd call it a "free ego boost" or "ass kissing fans"
Though, I'm not going to get into an argument about "ass kissing fans" because I'm pretty sure it'll be like arguing with a brick wall.
So, uh… Yeah. He makes his money that way. If he wants to throw in some overtime, that's his deal.
I… yes. We are pretty sure that is the thing that is happening. Or that he's putting it off. There's a lot of evidence either way.>>338566
…As in, Cry posted a month ago here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjK9vfN_SCA
in short: As of that video, he doesn't have a network. "everything" was demonetized. (That means they don't make money.).. Many things are getting copyright claims, being blocked or removed. So, as of that video, he was trying to get that worked out. And, twitch, he said, is more reliable as far as income goes. And when he gets his network stuff sorted out, he'll go back to posting on youtube more frequently.
This video: https://youtu.be/BNVAnP2iCBM
posted 3 days, gives an update: the network stuff is STILL being sorted out–in the mean time, stuff is still being deleted. His new computer was dead-on-arrival, then his capture card broke.
So, no, he/I am not whining about how youtube is dead… He is having a very specific issue that is actually impacting his ability to make money via youtube.
I mean, sure, he could be lying, but I really doubt that.
That said, he's posted 2 videos in the last few days so MAYBE he's got that stuff sorted out–I haven't watched them yet.
Does Cry still share his Twitch revenue with the LNC? If so, that's beyond my understanding, especially now.
Literally most of the viewership exist solely because of Cry and they only appear once a week. The others have their own channels. I've seen streamers as small as their viewership make a decent living.
I also remember one stream where he got a call from his sister and told her not to spend too much because money is tight. But if this is like saying his sister (and her bf?) are basically freeloaders not having jobs. Then I can't believe I ever looked up to this man…
I never said that youtube was dead, or that Cry said that youtube was dead.
I said that his
youtube is pretty fucked up at the moment–not all youtube.
I suppose I did not explicitly state that he, personally, was working on solving his own network problems, but I implied it pretty heavily.
Which is to say: He's working out his youtube shit, and he's been streaming for years. Why does it upset you if he streams?>>338597
I'm not sure how stuff's split. So, no comment.
As for his family: He has a house that he shares/provides for his sister, her baby (daughter?) and maybe sister's boyfriend too (not sure on that)… I think his brother is also moving in soon.
> I can't believe I ever looked up to this man…
I think it's very sweet that he is providing for his family.
And even if he pays all the bills, we don't know what his family does for him. For all we know, his sister cooks, cleans, does all the shopping, etc etc.
I think that's pretty fair, all things considered, especially if it kept her from, say, being trapped in a location that wasn't healthy for her or her baby.
I mean, seriously. This man is making sure his sister can focus on being a mom, without having to worry about working, babysitters, etc, etc etc. That's pretty awesome.
I know some husbands that don't even do that much for their wives and children.
as for the BF? Beats me on that. That's probably a sore spot, if the BF lives with them. shrugs
but ain't nothing wrong with taking care of family.
>>338601> Why does it upset you if he streams?
I'm not upset if he streams. I get upset when I see people say Youtube is dead, should just quit yt and go fulltime Twitch.
To me, that is so inconsiderate. That's like shitting on everything he's built over the years and tell him to just throw it away. There was passion, blood, sweat, and tears behind all that.
And I would honestly hate it if Cry were to ever get influenced into such a mindset. I've seen some youtbers>streamers do that before. Saying "Oh, you guys are always so sweet! Should I do daily streams? (And quit yt forever?? It's too much to do both! It's less viewers but you guys are always supportive! Oh, I already know you guys will say yes, yay.)"
I understand you don't mean anything like that. I am sorry for lashing out. Thank you for keeping it civil.
See, I can agree with that. :)
Thankfully, none of my youtubers have ever done that to me (…yet. I kinda got a bad feeling about my boy CoryxKenshin who disappears for a month or two at a time and is promising "BIG NEWS" mid July.)
… I like Streams! They give me a chance to hang out and interact with some of my smaller people. (Just like I love Cry's Editing streams. Only a couple hundred people show up, and only a few want to talk. :) )
But yeah, don't abandon youtube for streaming: that's just not cool. At the very least, stream, then edit for youtube later.
> I understand you don't mean anything like that. I am sorry for lashing out. Thank you for keeping it civil.
Aw, you're pretty cool too :) Thanks for speaking reasonably and being chill. It's okay if you lashed out a bit–everyone gets agitated sometimes, especially if it's stuff that upsets us. What's important is what you did, and calming down after. <3
Sorry if I got snippy too! I'm not feeling great today…
>>338597>Then I can't believe I ever looked up to this man…
His family is his own business, no? This is uncalled for.
>I get upset when I see people say Youtube is dead, should just quit yt and go fulltime Twitch.
I think it upsets him too. He's worked hard for his youtube channel, and he's had moments where other people would quit. He clearly wouldn't be there still if he didn't think there was something to it. Speaks volumes on his determination too. To have people that don't acknowledge that is just… well if it's upsetting to us, imagine how Cry feels.
yeah, I'm a friend.
I don't really want to give too much detail because I don't want to be too involved in this, but at his point I'm just fed up with how she's acting because he's not putting his foot down.
Well, you'll have to forgive us–you're gonna probably have a lot of people who don't believe you stomping through here.
But to be fair, about once a week, someone comes in, claiming to be an informed, but sekrit source, and sprinkles a little information in that we have absolutly no way of verifying one way or another that sometimes wildly contradicts everything else that's been said.
I totally understand
I've spoken to him personally and they've been broken up for a few months now. He just wants it all to be over publicly so he can move on.
believe what you will though, I would be wary too without proof
Yeah, don't believe anything without proof, but there should be some soon. This anon is right from my knowledge as well. It's been a struggle for him, because she doesn't want to announce it, but he does want to move past this part of his life.
There were a lot of hiccups with his computer/youtube though.
Yep, it's gonna be soon. I talked to him on Sunday around 715p and he said he's getting his new vids up to get back into the groove and not have the first big video back since May to be the breakup video.
And that's all bullshit. I don't know Cry, but that was a pretty good speculation, huh?
Hey, it's pretty good speculation. I could be deluded, but I see a lot of myself and mannerisms in Cry. That is totally something I would do–especially if I was procrastinating on it. Any excuse to 'legitimately' not deal with that thing that I'm not wanting to deal with for a few more days.
I figure once he decides to do it (and this is one of the areas he differs from me) He's gonna go in whole hog.
That's another theory, actually. came up about a week ago here: >>335722
It might be a nice way to do things, but I'd rather he talk about it: air it out, get it done with, let us stop wondering.
Technically he HAS already done that… they've been separated since before valentines day, if I recall correctly. ..that's like 4 months. and I think it's been even longer than that.
Well, one theory is that she has blackmail over him, (theories include face-pics, and other bullshit that I'm not going to give words to because it'll just lead to pointless discussion with no evidence) that is keeping him from announcing it, but I don't think there's much evidence for it.
Another is that Cry doesn't want his fangirls to freak out and threaten her or anything. Which, I give some credence to–fans get a little crazy sometimes. And "we're breaking up, it's hard, but I'll be okay." is NOW and SUDDEN and HOW DARE SHE!!!11!one! … but "we broke up, it's cool, we're fine, I"m happy, how are you?" takes a lot of the wind out of one's sails. hard to get angry when he's chill and happy.
Y'know, you can have a conversation without personally initiating it. You can even have a decent social life, with several friends. Even with other loners.
I know, weird, but true!
Damn, we weren't saying he doesn't go outside like some fucking recluse. We were saying that we didn't think they'd met in person and it makes sense. They all live in different states
(except Cry and Jund) and I doubt they'd make a special trip just to meet.
is this stuff coming from the stream or something?>>340458
outside of statistics, generally, he's about a likely to have red hair as not.
That said, I could see him dying his hair. Maybe not like, a chunk or something.
it's an interesting debate: he seems like the sort who'd get an idea to do something in his head and does it. Very impulsive in some respects. "I want this toy and I am a grown up man, who makes his own money, so I'm going to get it."
I can see that type of personality having a 'vanity' moment and seeing a neat hair color, and saying "I want that!"
that kind of vanity isn't always about wanting other people to look at you, but is about wanting to see yourself that way. in your periferial vision, in the mirror, etc.
I started painting my nails a couple months ago. I still catch myself looking at them and going "ee! my nails!" … and I'm 33, lol.
That said, I don't actually think cry's the 'make myself a redhead because red' type. could totally be wrong. But I don't think he's the 'last person' to do that either.
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Not the anon you're replying to but-
I'm guessing because he posted all the other wind-down videos on Wednesday, as well.
Cinnamon Toast Ken was posted on a Thursday, Dodger on a Friday, Crendor and Jesse on a Wednesday. They haven't been super consistent.
Regardless, Though puzzles are wind downs, how do we know she wasn't just.. putting a puzzle together? Maybe with Christine? Or a different friend?
All I'm saying, is there have been so many times someone has said "Oh, it's being announced in a couple days, in a week, this way, that way" and it still hasn't happened. No one should get their hopes up.
He's not posting an entire video about his break up. He's putting up a video to announce their break up, and to show "hey everything is still okay though!" to clear up questions about why she won't be around anymore, idiot. You fool.
You post here a lot, you should fucking cool it. It's easy to tell because your attitude blows, and you think you know what you're talking about all the time and you're always so fucking wrong. Quit projecting.
Holy shit, for someone telling me to cool down you seem super triggered
for absolutely no reason.
I'm just saying, its very unlike him to direct attention to his personal life in any way. He's always been one to avoid confrontation - why would he do anything but keep ignoring it? Makes no sense.
There is a massive difference between announcing a new relationship and announcing a breakup, in terms of drama.
Cry cannot deal with drama whatsoever. So, he most likely will do nothing but continue ignoring it. Seems to be working so far.
The advantage of doing a YT video on it is that he can refer to it anytime anyone asks about it. No more questions, it's already right there.
plus, it shows they're on decent terms, so please don't try and shank Cheyenne in a dark alley, thanks.
OR he may keep ignoring it. that's also a possibility, but it restricts both him and Cheyenne from being able to "move on" and see other people, and stuff.
I don't really agree. I think he has to announce it. Cheyenne's name is still written as part of the Late Night Crew. If he wants to remove it at some point he HAS to address the break-up in order to avoid any freak out/questions by fans.
Also it would let him move on. He has already hinted during the last months that he had depression. It's 100% the Chey drama that caused it, no doubt. He ignored adressing Chey these last months probably because they were officially on a "break"and not a break-up(if anon with info was right).
Now, logically, would you announce the break-up on youtube or on twitch? It's true Chey is more known by his twitch audience. However, he has more control on what is communicated through a yt video (with editing and whatsnot). He also avoids having a real time twitch chat reacting on the spot, asking questions and (maybe) overreacting.
A wind-down puzzle seems an ideal format in order to address the issue. Stay casual and give the impression that "everything is cool, it's mutual".
(Though I don't want to raise anyone's hopes up. We already had false lead/info before.)
They are SO not.
They have TOTALLY changed every way that they've publicly interacted for the last 4 or 5 months.
There are totally some possibilities otherwise, but they are all stretching SO far.
They're not still together, or at the very least, they have utterly restructured their relationship to involve little-to-no publicly visible interaction. But I can't see Cheyenne accepting that. And honestly "I love you, but don't want to be seen in public with you" is not a good thing to say in ANY relationship unless one of you is the leader of a country and a target for assassinations, blackmail, etc.>>341693
Was that said in the video?
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this is interesting, i think.
Speaking out my ass here, but there are plenty of ways to not-like someone without speaking out against them.
I hope someone will have some good examples! It'd be like milk. Old milk, but good. Like ice cream, maybe?
This is true. Cheyenne has basically put it out there even. Like in this clip: https://clips.twitch.tv/ChillyRespectfulElephantTBCheesePull
And then the entire 4/4/15 stream was just a major shitshow. It was a mixture of Cry and Cheyenne, but any time Cheyenne complained, Russ would get super upset and just shut down in a way. Funnily enough, that was the same stream where Cheyenne told Cry his work wasn't impressive.
Then there's also (which we've talked about multiple times) the phoenix wright clip when they tried to get Angel in and Cheyenne shut that down.And Russ sounded upset over that.
Literally just watch the streams starting from 2014 to 2016. There's your examples, pretty much.
Oh, true. I think it's more interesting she was still following him. Unless it's just super recent that he unfollowed her, like Cry told him he was announcing it officially soon so he felt like he didn't need to keep up appearances anymore.
It looks like everyone else follows each other though.
I am about 90% sure that he's not been following her for a while–I think it's come up here before, too.>>342160
Fuzzy pictures are the best coping mechanism.
No, seriously: If looking at cute animals can make you feel better, then fucking do it. No shame in that. >>342059
This was the best reply–thank you :)
I think he stopped following her when her and Sage were bullying the other girls and making everyone miserable, so it's been since this year? Maybe?
Granted, Cry did probably break up with Cheyenne in early February, so it was also probably around then.
I'm real excited for her to finally be dropped.
Gosh, I don't even remember at this point.
it was information that was given to us by out ~verified~ source (as in, they said "I'm XXX, look at my twitter" then posted something on twitter to vague-ID them)
Retrospect over the available data (taps sheets of papers together
) lead to supporting that information, I believe. Largely based on his moods and some offhanded comments he's made.
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