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Onision/Onion/Greg/Gregory Avaroe/James Jackson is a washed-up youtuber who gained rapid popularity around 2009 and has been declining ever since. He has a fetish for underaged alternative girls and a good portion of his milk comes from his attempts at grooming these unfortunate victims
. His wife/spouse/fellow groomer, Laineybot/Lainey/Taylor Avaroe/Kai Jackson, is a transtrender and former "beauty guru" with no makeup-knowhow or personality.
Last time on THE CURSE OF THE SWAMP TRAILER:>Greg makes a statement vaguely denying everything >>724973 and claims Lainey is happier than ever (despite continuing to hide like a dog) >>724994>Greg kindly confirms (again) his big head birth story >>723591>Shiloh and Regina are scheduled to appear in coming Chris Hansen streams >>724285>Sarah appears on the next Chris Hansen stream after Repzion and is interviewed about Lainey but mostly Greg, dropping the bombshell they had sex in front of the kids >>724391 and >>724614>Repzion appears on a Chris Hansen stream to talk about Greg and Lainey, who Chris is pitching as the "Married predators". The heat is on >>721754>Hansen reveals Greg asked for a $350k fee to be on stream with him then threatened to sue >>719865>[thread #117 was not summarised by #118 OP]>Lainey breaks her silence looking like hell, seemingly forced into more videos by Greg >>712596>A police report about a wellness check on Lainey is leaked, and it's stated Onision has real guns in his home >>713081>A neighborhood watch group seems to be keeping an eye on Jimmy and Lainey >>712793 and >>713092>Regina livestreams, confirming that Plainey really doesn't like women and is just a tool for Greg to reel in teen poon >>714977>Greg tries to say anyone who calls him a pedophile is a pedophile >>715112
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Sorry if this has been posted before (or is against the rules), but a user on Reddit (who made a throwaway to post this on the onion subreddit) has been a patreon of his for a while for the sole purpose of archiving information and discord chat, as well as leaking it.
They leak a lot (if not everything) of what they currently have here:https://www.reddit.com/r/Onision/comments/dqjg8s/leaks_and_other_things/
No real way of knowing but I actually suspect/fear that a majority are not actual fans, even if they aren't "farmers" exactly. The shit they've been doing has become so public now that there are inevitably going to be Twitter and Youtube randoms putting in small pledges just to see what's up.
Is it also possible that there are small pledge Patrons that continue to be Patrons even if they no longer care about Onision? Similar to someone who might accidentally keep their subscription to some online service without remembering they are paying, they might ignore emails, and if their pledges are small, they may not notice if they don't keep track of their bank statements.
Idk it just blows my mind that there could be hundreds of people still supporting them, maybe I am naive given how large their fanbase used to be
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"either she lied then…"
So waterbrained he doesn't realize he fully admits the possibility that Sarah didn't actually mean a word she said. Stupid fuck.
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>>she either lied then or she’s lying now
Well no duh, Grugly. You clearly guilt tripped her into making the video and saying Lainey was innocent. It doesn’t matter if you believe it to be true, Sarah clearly didn’t believe it. There is proof you coerced her.
>>725237>Kai is crying right now
Seeing it said totally un-ironically never fails to make me cackle
>if you do nothing, Kai has to deal with this possibly forever
Imagine being in your 30s begging a teenager to solve all of your grown ass problems that you brought upon yourself
100% I believe they hate each other but will continue to be together until there is actual threat of jail time. Right now they are at the point of mutually assured destruction, and if they don't have each other, they will have absolutely nothing, their reputations are forever destroyed, neither of them is sane enough to be self-sufficient. So long as the cops aren't after them, Greg can keep sperging about how it clearly proves his own innocence
1) Staying together is the big "fuck you, Internet" that Greg has always been obsessed with giving, proving the haturz wrong, etc. Greg is stupid enough to think that them staying together is proof that they are still an amazing couple, it's them against the world type bullshit, and it's "proof" that he doesn't only want young girls. "I'm still with my gay husbando after 7 years despite them being an emo fuckboi skinwalker in their mid 20s, so I cannot possibly be a predator!" He says this shit constantly
2) Krai has always been the only one "taking care of" the kids, obviously doing a horrific job of it, but we know that Greg doesn't give a flying fuck about his kids, they'd probably be dead if he was the sole caretaker. There's no way he would ever want that responsibility on his shoulders, and Krai would likely pursue (and be awarded) alimony if they split. We all know his feelings about that kek
3) Krai by far has the most dirt on Onision that could probably put him behind bars. Remember, what we've seen from Sarah is already horrifying, multiply that by 100, and that's the shit that Krai has on Onion, given how long she has been involved and how much she has been a willing participant in his degeneracy
4) They'd have extreme life-altering breakdowns from not being able to reconcile the cognitive dissonance of their relationship falling apart and both of them looking at the past 7 years as the worst time of their lives, when they constantly tried to put up this act that they are SOO happy together and THRIVING despite the haturz
Sorry samefag, forgot to mention that if shit does hit the fan and criminal/civil proceedings happen, Onion will no doubt try to fall back on, "I TRULY thought they were an amazing human being, Kai had me fooled all along, I thought those screenshots were surely shopped! See how loving and trusting I was in this blog post with FULL exonerating evidence of myself!"
Everything he says is crafted and worded in a particular way so he can feign ignorance when the end of days is upon him
I don’t think we have evidence that Lainey hates Greg which is the crazy part.
We’ve seen her get hurt by him and frustrated with him but never hate him. I don’t know if she’s a true masochist and enjoys being constantly emotionally shit on and cheated on or is still deluding herself into thinking he loves her and will go back to being the doting guy she first met if she loves him enough or what but she’s never truly wavered.
Did you watch that video of her going through their early text messages and being excited like a little school girl whole Greg is monotone and talks about how he would ignore her when he thought he could get back with Sh? That was after she got cheated on and probably while she was continuing to be verbally and emotionally abused offscreen.
Greg probably never loved her, just loved that she saved him from having to be alone and never say no to him.
I’m sure they stay together for a lot of the reasons you outlined but what’s still surprising to me is that she still appears to love him after everything.
Yeah with Lainey I think it's more complicated than "hate" per se but I do not believe she fully loves him, I think the severe cognitive dissonance (and their shared degeneracy) forces her to believe it's love, otherwise she has to admit that she's utterly wasted and been ruined over the past 7 years (I say this with no sympathy btw, at this point she's proven how willing she is to be just as awful as him). She has discussed running away with Sarah/Regina, which to me is the most damning thing. She knows that Greg doesn't give a fuck about their kids and treats C in particular like garbage. She knows she has been betrayed by him (it's not like she 100% handwaved the Billie shit as Greg being totally perfect, she was able to admit he was shitty and manipulative. In the end it didn't mean jackshit but she did get pissed). And now she's a known Gig Harbor Predator that parents are probably starting to run away from in public. She probably could've gotten away with a LOT if Onion wasn't so fucking obsessed with control/power, being the one to nuke most of their 3way relationships, and then screeching about it all over the internet.
I'm probably being autistic about the meaning of "love", you're 100% right that she has cared about him far more than he has ever cared about her, I just think at this point there is a part of her that despises him, but she knows how to brush away/ignore that feeling for the sake of maintaining the delusional fairytale where she got her dream guy, and at this point she has no other good option
This is 100% armchairing though lol
Oh she hates Greg with unprecedented passion. She just feels too powerless to act on that hate. He's always made her feel too weak and dependant to act on it.
There are two ways to release that hatred. The first is for her to feel empowered enough. That won't happen now that she's outed as his accomplice and no-one will side with her.
The second is to feel like there's nothing left to lose. That won't happen because they have two children, which is much to lose.
She HAD the first option. People constantly told her that her orc husband was a piece of shit, that she deserved better and could do better, etc. People liked her youtube videos as long as Jimmy wasn't in them. She could've actually had a career and had an even bigger audience of people validating her constantly. I remember the outpouring of support she received on social media back before he managed to erase her memory of him cheating and people encouraging her to be strong and leave him.
Instead she threw it back in everyone's faces, continued playing the codependent victim
and eventually became a degenerate predator herself. She has completely ruined any hope of a normal life or career when all she had to do was have an ounce of self-respect and leave. I have no pity for her whatsoever and neither does anyone else.
You know, he's mentioned several times that he has evidence he hasn't shared, but after seeing his two "statements" and this email, its really looking less and less likely that he has the evidence he claims. I can't think of a single reason why he wouldn't use any of that evidence now that he is desperate to clear his and Kainey's names.
He sent this same email to Jaclyn and Blaire, yet the only evidence he is able to actually provide is the video sarah already admitted was lies made under coercion.
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Not sure, but they're behind on property taxes according to KF.
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And here is the new chapter of his porn book.
Greg literally talks over Kai, mocks Kai for only using facebook and nothing else, gets butthurt when Kai says the patreons hate him and claims credit over Kai’s videos, at one point Greg mocks the way Kai bathes?
yeah uh-huh ”soulmates”
i swear you can see how much they can’t stand each other but literally only stay together to “spite” the internet
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That look at 11:21 from Lame's podcast. So telling. Screengrab doesn't capture her deeply ingrained chagrin for his inherent disrespect for her. Same vibe as when Melania Trump's face fell when her husband turned away from her.
but the sperg kainey goes on about how people hold others accountable for mistakes they made in the past, is 500% a thinly veiled salty sperg about the multiple collages and videos of her and Selena using the n word every chance they got lol
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the color coder returns
i tried to collage it but the image was completely unreadable
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I thought the same thing anon.
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The face of someone who has made their bed and has to lie in it.
How tf is anyone still paying for Foot's content? It's somehow such a slog to get through her podcast, and yet it's only 12 minutes long (Wow such effort!). Yet again it's just Greg saying stupid bullshit, he even calls her out for being boring as fuck and that's why he has to take over. Lamey complains that they don't have a pRoPeR ToPiC (and yet she doesn't come prepared with one? No shit your attentionwhore husband is going to derail it when you give 0 fucks), and she straight up admits that her patrons hate him but also that she wouldn't have Patreon content if not for Greg forcing her to. She can no longer even muster up the strength to convincingly say "Yes we're soulmatez!" Jesus what a dumpster fire.
Lamey is such a recluse now and even if she didn't admit to it, it's very apparent from the way she talks, I feel like she has trouble speaking for more than 10 seconds at a time (and that is generous), before she becomes an unintelligible mess. Her only form of human socialization right now is clearly Grug and her kids, how stimulating.
But she’s “the happiest she’s ever been” right?
Yeah we are totally buying that
Samefag but almost forgot, she also refers to herself as a "person of interest", thinking that it just means "e-celeb" or some shit kek nice one Tayhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Person_of_interest
"someone involved in a criminal investigation who has not been arrested or formally accused of a crime"
Sucks to be her.
Taylor got what she deserves, same goes for Jimmy.
Kek. It's like the book If I Did It
by OJ Simpson. The cover's the best part. The "if" in the title was made really tiny so it looked like it said "I Did It" in huge, red letters.
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@3:55 on Lainey's podcast they both admit that Onion forces Lame to upload when she doesn't want to. As speculated for ages by farmers.
She would drop the fakeboi shit so fast her fans' stupid heads would spin off their idiot necks if it so happened that she might actually see the inside of a prison cell.
Here's my prediction: If she is actually indicted she will present herself 100% as a woman during the entire criminal justice process.
This latest video from Lainey shows just how covert Gurg's abuse is. Gurg spent the first 4 minutes talking non-stop about himself and threw a couple of serious sounding questions in the middle of it regarding their relationship: "Where did the spark go?" … "So we're soulmates, right?" … before going back to talking about his hair. This worked to keep his behaviour unpredictable so she was insecure at the very beginning about what to expect from him.
He then continued dominating the rest of the video while criticising his wife, mimicking her and giving pointless, nonsensical comments disguised as 'jokes' while she's trying to give an opinion. It's such covert emotional abuse designed to undermine Lainey and make her feel small.
It clearly works too because she looks so stressed by him. I noted the following body language: Licking teeth, chewing lips, fast eye blinking and looking down while he talks, all of which suggest anxiety and submissiveness.
It's very interesting that she openly shared the fact that her patreons can't stand him. I wonder if they actively encourage her to get away from him.
She is talking to pro-bono lawyers.
Sarah has 2 jobs, college, a new apartment, and lives in a completely different state than the gruesome twosome . If she does take it legally she has to dedicate months, even years, to the case. I get people want her to take it up to authorities but it is a lot to handle especially, with a seemingly tight schedule. She wants to be sure if she can pursue criminal charges before anything, she stated that repeatedly in the Hanson livestream.
She said she's been in contact with some pro-bono lawyers over a possible criminal case and they're looking to see if there is a strong criminal case to move on in, if there is a strong case she would be inclined to go through with it though she does have some misgivings about the criminal justice system.
In regards to a civil case however she doesn't feel as if she has the time and resources to take one foward that would result in anything.
People get very huffy if you mention that no case is currently ongoing but Sarah straight up said there wasn't a case ongoing. She went to check her options, realized it would be very time consuming and/or expensive and has made no moves after that.
So people need to quit presenting the "they're going to JAIL!" narrative as fact because it's likely never going anywhere.
It's definitely up to sarah if she wants to pursue it. If I were her, I would. But I am not her, so I'm just going to sit back and watch the internet tear him apart. Because at this point, that is all we are getting.
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Hopefully, this will clear things up and farmers will stop assuming if she is or is not pressing charges.
Ty and exactly… He’s already using the fact he hasn’t been charged so it’s going to be worse for his victims
when nothing happens
Even CH says that it’s unlikely that there was anything illegal unless she can retrieve the nude pictures that’s why he mentioned a civil case so if she feels like it she can persue emotional damages
There’s a small group on Twitter circling this misinformation and it’s going to backfire on these girls and it will be their fault.
Hana May be able to press charges if she has the nudes
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I’m not in USA so don’t know this drink, is it tea or beer?
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looks like this kombucha, i know ive seen him drinking other kinds in other videos.
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You make allegations like that and you'll get your shoe sued buddy.
Yes sending nudes is illegal but Sarah said she doesn’t know if she can retrieve them.
Regina though if she has them can press charges against Lainey
Kids are a reflection of their parents. If Anus and Lainey swear and act like degenerates the kids will think it’s normal behaviour.
Maybe Anus is over sexualized because his mom was too open about her sex life … calling out his name etc maybe that’s what justifies it to him to have sex in front of his kids… it’s normal to him and his kids will think it’s normal too
Oh bullshit. They're victims
in this. No-one knows how they'll deal with what they're currently being subjected to at home when they get older.
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Well, we can see why he does that emo combover….
Also Lame rocking not one but TWO cold sores. I guess being outed as a pedo is pretty stressful.
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Is that a grey hair? The long swoopy light bit around his widow's peak.. Ooh, manchild Gurg is gonna HATE that. Time to break out the hair dye in Wayne Newton Black, Gurg!
Stop pretending to be 'in the know'. If you are 'in the know', then stop withholding milk and tell us what Sarah apparently knows.
But we all know the likelihood is that you only know as much as the rest of us, there's no secret illegal stuff that Gerg has been doing, and you're just full of shit.
He hasn't done anything illegal. It perhaps should be illegal, but it isnt. Get over it
Because being realistic about the proof she has, plus her trying to get on with her life equates to her being in love with Greg. Surejan.
I for one am 100% behind her moving on and never mentioning him or his boring foot faced wife again. That's how you hurt him. He needs to be remembered. He needs to feel important to people. That's how narcissists do.
I don't know that Sarah is holding back anything but it wouldn't surprise me if she were. Sometimes I feel like it seems so unlikely that nothing ever happened until she turned 18. I don't want to tinfoil too much because it's not like we could ever know either way.
I do, however, believe 1,000% that Grepedo HAS broken the law at some point, probably at several points. It's like Jaclyn said, it seems so unlikely that someone who's towed the line like he has for as long as he has would never once cross onto the illegal side of it. I think evidence of any illegal activity is on one or more of his many computers. I feel like this is why he's publicly stated (more than once) he "accidently" wiped his hard drive. He wanted to be able to point to those instances in the future should he ever find himself in a situation where it becomes likely that investigators seize his computers and then discover they've been wiped (again.) He can say and "prove" its totally possible to accidently wipe your hard drive. Obviously it wouldn't matter, obviously investigators could retrieve whatever he's attempted to scrub because Greg is not even remotely close to as smart as he thinks he is.
So hopefully even if Sarah can't/won't press charges, all of this will put into motion the discovery of other crimes he's committed. All they need to do is to seize those computers. Lainey sending and receiving nudes from minors is all the probable cause they need.
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It's adequate to guess that Sarah is protecting the kids from being taken away. I think she doesn't want to hurt Lainey in that way. She's too young to understand what happened and has been groomed too long to get how those kids are being abused.
Look at how she let slip that Greg, Lainey and Sarah had sex with C in the room AND IN THE SAME BED. She said it without really realizing how fucked up it was and when she read Hansen's reaction she kind of froze a bit and tried to reason that C didn't really see anything. Sarah releasing that tweet apologizing to C is really indicative that she doesn't really get the things that Greg and Lainey have normalized.
I think Sarah is angry and trying to pursue some kind of consequences, but she does seem to hide a bit out of ignorance or in an attempt to not completely destroy them. As for Greg facing consequences and Sarah's reports to the police? Time will tell.
Why does he buy kombucha when it's super easy and cheap to make? What a waste of money.>>725590
Great work, anon. Took me a double take to see it's a shop.>>725771>I do, however, believe 1,000% that Grepedo HAS broken the law at some point, probably at several points.
I couldn't agree more with you, anon. But I think these girls might be too scared to do anything because they're usually young and from a troubled background and knowing Greg, he'd probably reveal personal information about them and drag them into the spotlight.
If there are more "Sarahs" out there, they might either just not have realized that things were f*ed up in the swamp shack or they just don't want to get sucked in again.
I'm still not completely over the assumption that he has cameras all over his place and, therefore, some indiscriminating footage.
And I'd really like to know more about the girl who came to Sarah, crying, and told her to get away asap. Like, what's the story behind this?
So some Onision fan is probably pretending to be an Anti O and is saying (but not providing proof) that he called T's school. I call bullshit and its just another way Onision has his fans trying to make anyone speaking against him look like fanatics.
Im sure no one called the school, if they did we'd be getting a spergout from Greg on Twitter and a half a dozen Speaks videos.
unless he had a harddrive crash (which does happen, but that isnt what he said happened) there is pretty much no way he could wipe his drive accidentally. Most people don't even know HOW to format their drive without looking it up, and as you said, they ask 100 times ARE YOU SURE?! before you can do it.
He thinks we are all idiots, but he is the idiot.
I am not supporting the cow tipping in anyway shape or form but this dumbass shit happens in the TND thread. This whole idea that if some retarded farmer does something retarded it’s going to ruin everything. What kind of logic is that?
Let me remind you that grooming an underage teen is not something that can be swept under the rug unless we and others stop talking about it collectively. For every 1 stupid farmer, there’s plenty of reasonable ones. But this idea that “oh you’re going to make us look like fanatics!”
Well, in reality, we already do. We’re on a gossip image board. Sorry to break it to you. But we still pale in comparison to Greg, and all of his behaviors.
May the potential cow tipper be banned, and we carry on.
Inb4 Shreg starts shrieking about this being Sarah’s fault and how all his haters are crazy.
Newfriends, this is how you give Shregly amo
They've got a variety of devices. PCS, Macs, Macbooks, iPads. >>725849
A different twitter user told the twittercalf "Recognizing voices is my superpower." about how ASM is not Onion based on the voice, which the twittercalf took that as the other user saying they literally have superpowers to make them seem delusional. I don't know if they're dumb, not a native english speaker, or a little off themselves.
To me it's worse because it can and probably will affect the psychological development of both children, since they're apparently having/had sex in front of both.
As for Sh, no one actually believed she miscarried because of being pushed into a door frame, especially back then. We'll see what she has to say about it now.
Both of these situations are bad. Why the fuck does it have to be about which one's worse.
How is that worse than the fact that he literally KILLED his unborn child?
Those kids are alive and have a chance at having a good life, or becoming as deranged as their parents. They live. His and Shiloh's child was robbed of any and all opportunities. It's dead.(b8)
This is a pretty strange question, and approach. Not sure how it’s constructive to this, but I’ll bite.
The physical violence is bad, yes. Traumatic, yes. But as a fetus, the fetus had no awareness of what happened. Shiloh as an adult had an option to escape, and therapy. Where as T & C are stuck in that household for as long as time can tell, and are being actively parented by two people who so casually have sex in front of them. The psychological damage done to a child is generally worse than an adult who has already developed coping methods etc.
You were given multiple constructive answers to this.
At this point Im positive that you're a troll.
The non-sage should of been the first hint. Take your answers and move on.
Constructive?! There is literally nothing constructive in this whole Onision saga, just various shades of sad. I didn't sage because I wanted to question you on your moral involvement in this tragedy and I wanted you to realize your involvement is important. >>725896
While abortion is ok, killing a fetus without it's mother's approval is not.
Nah she has received sympathy in the past and as soon as she and onion “make up” she spits in her sympathizers faces and act as if they are over reacting.
She will never leave him, he is more likely to leave her.
I know lots of people want them to stay together so they can be miserable together but I think they’d be worse without eachother to vent about haters to. At least for a while.
No it's too late for her to leave and get sympathy, it'll take one hell of an apology and waterworks ala >>725346
to garner any sympathy. She's done the full transformation from victim
to enabler/lackey to abuser in her own right now.
Even if she no longer loves him, she's a 25 year old woman who hasn't so much as filled in a job application form in her life, with two children and a dogdy easily findable history that would make it near impossible for her to resume her previous path of becoming a child psycologist/councelor. It's going to be a tough world out there for her and there's only so much mom & dad can do for her.
Everyday that ticks by makes the onion stench harder to remove.
Don’t directly link to his blog, anon. He gets money from all those ads.
Here’s a twitter thread with screenshots of all of it https://twitter.com/onionunprivated/status/1191828108934037505?s=21
I switched to this thread to finish reading, and he sounds like a fucking insufferable guest.
And this is a post written by himself
, so it's giving the most charitable view in his favor of the situation.
You're the one turning a cycle of abuse into a pissing contest of "I think x had it worse!" Abuse isn't a competition.
One event is relevant, but not current and sadly, nothing can be done about it at this point.
The other is happening right now, and could very well be an issue in the eyes of the law.
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So wait, he spat on someone's door deliberately, and wants to be congratulated for cleaning it off without being asked?
And he pushed someone's ice cream they were still eating onto the floor as a joke?
Why does anyone want to hang around him?
Jesus fucking Christ I think he actually believes this is solid proof. He thinks because Sarah admitted she lied in the video he forced her to make, that no one should believe anything she says.
This from a guy who lied about wanting to commit suicide to get out of alimony and admitted to it, who claims that the videos he and Shiloh made about her seizure and memory loss were fake (ie, lies).
And EL OH EL at him consistently using the term “article” to refer to his own little opinion blog.
I really do think he believes what he is saying, because otherwise I can’t imagine why someone would make a fool of themselves over and over like this.
Couldn't have said it any better.>>725910
If anything it was worse after Billiegate because she blamed her for "cheating" but not her husband who was the one that she "cheated" with. Grog can do whatever he wants to Thot and she'll swallow it up no matter how immoral the action is or how innocent the victim
is (their kids for example).>>725932>>725933>>725935
I'm glad that they didn't believe that dummy. Who links their own retarded shit as proof of something? Oh wait, Greg.>>725937
He always forgets the lies that he tells when he's in a narc rage.
OT and tinfoil, but I wonder if lainey painted her parents in a bad light to Sarah, and that’s why she never mentions the possibility of them getting custody of Trot and Clot. Sarah was at one point infatuated with both Lainey and her gay husband Grease, so I wonder if she said “uwu my parents didn’t support our true twin flames love and my dad cheated on my mom and wanted to take trot away from Greg, plus Greg banned him from the house”. Lainey is not a good mother. She could suddenly do a 180 and be parent of the year, and it still wouldn’t change the fact that she has degrading sex in front of them, allows Greg to ignore their daughter, let trot’s teeth rot, and prioritizes her husband’s need for teen poon over their safety by allowing dozens of strangers from the internet to stay in their home.
While she does seem to still like her mom and grandma, and the fact that her dad buys her gifts, she also complains that they don’t respect her gender, so maybe Sarah was brainwashed into believing that trot and clot have no better option.
Saged for speculating.
I think this pretty much proves he has no other evidence to speak of.
You would think he’d want to give Chris Hansen all he has in order to get him to stop talking about him and/or retract previous statements. If that old video of Sarah is the only piece of evidence he is willing to show Chris Hansen, then my bet is that he has nothing else to show.
The fact that he keeps calling his blog post an “article” is such an obvious manipulation tactic that I’m sure he thinks is soooo smart and cunning. Articles have the connotation
of “fact” and “truth” so he thinks that if he calls his rambling an article people will believe that it’s true. Dumbass. Can’t wait for Shiloh tomorrow, I hope she’s ready
Any other "evidence" he could possibly have is guaranteed to be just as meaningless as his pulitzer prize winning article. if he ever "outs it", it will be:
1) further texts that PROVE sarah is criminal druggie scum (here she is admitting to cocaine use!!11) and therefore never to be trusted
2) texts where Sarah happens to say the words "i'm sorry" (why was SHE sorry if I am an evil groomer?! rejected ex-friend who apologized to ME and saw the error of her ways confirmed)
3) video footage of him being an asshole to her (if i was GROOOOMING her, why was i being mean?! grooming is supposed to make someone feel good, just like brushing a dog!)
aka stupid bullshit that is proof of nothing other than grot being a delusional waterbrained stupid fuck.
what i also find hilarious is that all mention of sarah being a rapist has suddenly gone out the window. i'm sure the noble grot would neeever throw that word around loosely, and yet, if he actually thought she was a rapist, especially a rapist of The Most Amazing Husbando Ever CoolPredatorKai, you'd think he'd mention it in every sentence like he does with the word "liar". hmmm it's almost as if he is always and forever full of shit.
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Imagine being so autistic that you question their journalistic integrity while referencing your own retarded blog post as a factually based article lmfao. Is this faggot ever going to give up the ghost with his horrible reputation? Nobody believes you Grug, get off social media and take a nap in your swamp.
>>725996>take a nap in your swamp
Preferably a forever
This "article" gives the facade of some kind of introspection, but it works against him, and becomes even clearer that he really does not have the capacity to do so. He lists multiple instances of how there were "communication issues," but shoves it all off onto this Dev person, insisting that SHE was the cause of the communication issues.
But then he says he shoved people's ice cream off of a table as a "joke" and people got upset because they weren't done eating their ice cream. I don't know how that could be a "joke," jokes are supposed to be funny, and behaving like a childish, inconsiderate brat isn't particularly funny (in my opinion, at least). But that's what his "humor" boils down to. He said he really thought they were done with their ice cream - well gee, Greg, why not ASK THEM instead of just assuming? That sounds like a "communication issue," but of course, it's everyone else who communicates poorly, not him. Jesus christ
Spitting on the door is extremely retarded, couldn't agree more. But I just had to shake my head when he attempts to rationalize a disrespectful, rude, and unnecessary action like that by saying something to the effect of, "I cleaned it up without anyone asking me to! It ended up being cleaner than it was before!"
Like, he cleaned it up without anyone asking him to…. wow. This truly sounds like something a nine year old might say. This isn't something to brag about, Greg! For fucks sake.
This is speculative on my part, but it really seems like he is severely mentally delayed - permanently so. I'm not saying that as an insult, it just really seems (to me) like he has severe developmental issues, possibly from hydrocephalus when he was in the womb or whatever. This last part is really speculative so I'll stop this tinfoil here.
His reasoning is like that of a child roughhousing with another child and after one kid starts crying, he begins the excuses like 'I didn't even hit you that hard!' and 'I said sorry! Stop crying!'
Instead of taking responsibility for being a douche, he just turns it around like the other person is insensitive or in the wrong.
In a nutshell:
>A patreon organized the patreon meet up, I should have organized, because she wanted to help out another patron of mine. I don't care if Dev spent her own money on it or even spent 2k on me before. I was pissed because I wasn't the star of the show.
>I shoved everybody's ice cream on the floor because I BOUGHT IT! It was mine all along even though I allowed them to taste it.
>Look at how awesome I am!! I bought meals for everyone! And that's at least as expensive as the flight that my German patron bought. It's probably even more valuable because it was bought with MY money.
>I spat on a door because I don't know how to be polite and not act gross. I even cleaned it myself without anybody telling me which really is an accomplishment for me, usually I just leave stuff to clean for Lainey.
Oh, and that door was dirty anyway and let me subtly allude that they live in a pigsty on top of that.
>It's totally ok for me to inconvinience people at their own home and rudely tell them to "shut the f up" because it was I* who was actually inconvenienced. And since I'm more important than anyone else, it's totally ok to be rude, right? RIGHT?!
>I reguarly call my huswife a cunt but it's not ok to tell somebody they have a beer belly - especially when that someone is me. I'm the hottest stud alive, how dare you?!
>Here, let me apologize for a few things without actually apologizing for them because we all know I can't do any wrong, and if I did, it's your fault because you could have told me. What I'm saying is, it's your fault because you can't communicate properly.
>Everybody who was there was as shocked as I was and they 110% agree with me that Dev's behaviour was totally inappropriate. I swear that them agreeing with me has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that I kick everybody who doesn't agree with me out of my life immediately.
All I hear is Gerg being butthurt and him complaining about what everyone else does is wrong and how angelic he is in contrast. What a whiny, biased """""""article"""""". How can Greg claim to have an IQ of 142 and write this?>>725915>She's done the full transformation from victim to enabler/lackey to abuser in her own right now.
That's why Greg picked "Kai" as her new name, I guess.LaKai
Those online IQ tests aren't accurate or legitimate. They are designed to make morons like Grepedo feel validated in their imagined galaxy brains, and in return the galaxy brained morons click back to the website in the future to retake the test (probably many times) so they can feel that validation they crave all over again.
I'd wager Greg even utilized that galaxy brain of his and ordered the totally legit certificate showing how big and bad his IQ is and has it proudly framed and hanging somewhere in the Swamp Shack.
Nobody with true intellegence falls for that shit. I wish more than anything I wasn't blocked from his Twitter so I could say this on the tweets he's posted recently bragging about his results.
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Respectfully disagree on the brain damage thing.
He attempts to utilize manipulation tactics in his 'articles', that he uses on his younger fans/victims
. It's been successful with them, so he is under the impression they are successful in general - he hasn't yet come to really realise that it doesn't work in a very public setting, when you have many people scrutinizing your words/actions, rather than just one very vulnerable target - or ofc a small group of vulnerable 'targets' who are poised to want to please you anyway.
His articles arn't the result of brain damage or anything of the like. It's literally just Gerg trying to manipulate a wider audience with the same techniques he used to manipulate Kai/Sarah/Shiloh, etc whoever, in those close relaitonships. It simply doesn't work on this scale - it just ends up looking bafflingly stupid.
Perhaps this sort of behaviour is the result of childhood neglect/abuse, but also could so easily be the result of being spoiled and put on a pedestal as a child ('indigo child', as his mom would call him). Or hes a legit narc. We have no way to say which really.
His behaviour is definitely pretty stunted, he acts like a stupid kid - but I think that's more to do with his years of being a shut in and not actually interacting with adults, or being in any sort of 'mature' setting (i.e, having a proper job, with adult colleagues/managers, mature adult friends/romance options, etc). He's only really ever interacted with teenagers, and on the internet in 'drama' settings. In other words, he simply hasn't learned how to be an adult, or come to grips with proper social skills. Again, not brain damage. More environmental damage I guess, of his own doing.
It's really no more tinfoil than that imo. He most likely is just a loser, no fanciful backstory to it.
I think Greg suffers from some sort of chromosomal issue or genetic defect which does impact his intellegence in all aspects, especially his social intellegence. I think it also explains why he has a gigantic head and unproportionately short limbs.
I definitely think he has personality disorders to go along with that, and the way he was raised can be blamed for the way he is as well.
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I've been scouring youtube for this video and only just realized it's a shop
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Well, it's good to know that Greg cannot not
bring up the allegations against him. It's not much but it helps with not sweeping the grooming allegations under the table.
The egghead strikes again!
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He's such a fucking pig. Compare this picture of Dev's home, to the mess Gurg and Krai live in - and he has the nerve to suggest she is less than clean?
No, so she can pre-empt any of his fangirls who will very very likely bring up the times she lied. Or Greg himself, of course.
Who cares if greg invalidates her whole interview? You realise hes going to do that anyway, right? he did it to sarah. What matters is that other people see Shiloh, and her obvious credibility, her maturing, and her healing from her abuse from Greg.
do the craziest, craziest shit - and people understand with context, and infact can actually highlight how bad the abuse they suffered was, to make them act like that.
But if shiloh doesn't wanna talk about that stuff, then that's her choice. I'd worry it would just cause her more pain/harm though, because i have a horrible feeling that someone is gonna mention it… it really is best imo that she gets in there first and gives the proper version of her story, and show just what the abuse did to her and how it made her feel
>think she needs to deviate to topics other than the abuse she suffered.
Samefag, but her desperation and insecurity IS part of the abuse she suffered. He tortured that poor teenage girl, isolated her, made her feel deeply insecure about her appearance and her personality, desperate for his approval and for his love because he kept manipulating her with intermittent coldness… it's obvious from just watching that whole shit show.
He literally drove her to crazy lengths. It's all part of what she suffered at his hands. As the other anon said, it showcases what abuse does to someone.
She shouldn't be shamed for it, not now we know the whole story.
God, hearing her speak to Chris Hansen in comparison to the video Greg took with her shaved and screaming…
She sounds so much better. I'm glad she's happier now.
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Can’t listen to the stream rn but Chris is on the verge of tears listening to Sh. From the chat it sounds like she’s doing a good job recounting stuff.
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sorry about the res, taken from twitter but onion boy posted this on kai's patreon.
point of interest: grug doesnt think kai will come back to youtube
But…. you told us in your totally honest faxxxtual article that Kai "has been happier than I’ve seen him in years"?!
Wish I could have been a fly on the wall during the complete meltdown Lamey had that surely triggered
this pathetic message. Their bank accounts must not be doing so hot either.
Chris is such a good interviewer. There's so much shit that we always speculated, and he manages to provoke things that I think is often overlooked by both the victims
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Mister Metokur is live tweeting the stream.
>>726359>Kai not coming back to youtube
So is HomolKai a fresh new organic material in the swamp, or has HomolKai finally packed up his fly ridden shit and left with the kids??
Which is it yall
>>726359>lost his best friend to the anti-o community
As if Taylor even knows what a friend really is. After all of this, she still refuses to take responsibility for her actions.
But then I remember that this is Greg's narrative. He's pinning it all on Sarah as if that's not going to make things worse for him. Especially after Shiloh said to give Sarah more support.
TL;DR Basically an outline of their relationship.
A loose Summary:
Shiloh discusses their relationship from the beginning, giving a time line. She and Greg had sex immediately upon meeting in a hotel room, and the police were called because Greg had camera equip with him. Greg showed her fake divorce docs.
Goes onto talk about how he used her for sex for all of their relationship, including shaving her head during sex then going back at it. Showing her porn of anime characters being raped.
The break up, and taking her back. Followed by her getting pregnant and then him dumping her again when she got back to Canada.
I don’t think there was much if any new milk but it was powerful hearing it all from her. She claimed if her mother hadn’t taken her passport she probably would have gone back to him and ended up killing herself.
Did highlight an exchange between Onion and Shiloh’s father - tinfoil but I wonder if that is part of what he gets off on? Alienating kids from their dad’s? Shiloh claimed after he and her dad had a run in they (her and her father) didn’t speak for a year. Also that when Greg claimed a Canadian gang would kill him, he was speaking of Shiloh’s father and some of his friends who did want to come down and deliver ‘Canadian Justice’ for what he did to Shiloh.
Kai grew some fucking balls and left lol. This is Jimmy showing Kai jimmy still has access to all his accounts!
In addition to e-begging for sympathy bucks from the fucking tards that would be either of their patrons to begin with
Shiloh fucking KILLED it.She was so articulate & poised. So much for 'Crazy Shiloh', Gurg. Amazing how sane & cool she is since SHE GOT AWAY FROM YOU.In contrast to that batshit letter Gurg sent Hansen, it was clear who the loony tunes is. Hint:NOT Shiloh.
Oh, & boy did she have a glow up. Have fun with your scabies-ridden,pancake-chested inarticulate footface, Gurg. You REALLY traded down.
Shiloh is still young enough to salvage her career. Especially as she has talent, which helps.(Oh god, the dig at Greg's lack of talent was beautiful.) Greg is a washed up,middle-aged predator.
SHE WON, BITCH.
Find it interesting how that person said 180, when Shiloh clearly stated 135… hmmm. Gergles trying to be a little sneaky and integrate, perhaps? Stir some shit?
Interesting either way
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Well he does know what he’s doing… I recall Anus saying Chris Hansen was just a drama channel lol
That's a whole lot of fake empathy for his wife there. LOL at "tabloid YouTube channels", what tabloid channels? He wishes
someone like Keemstar was covering this shit, that way Greg could make it into the 3 ring circus he believes it is/wants it to be. And lol at trying to make Sarah (without using her name) the perpetrator here.
The only reason Greg keeps pushing Kai back to YT is because he wants those extra shekels since he makes next to nothing on his channel, that's literally it. Two miserable nonces. They deserve each other.
Greg is disgusting and it's a good thing Shiloh's mom kept her from being manipulated any further by Grog.>>726413
They could have misheard. Shitty tinfoil.
>>726420>They could have misheard. Shitty tinfoil.
Yeah, except I remember the 'Shiloh was 180 and obese' thing being said before, I think it was by Greg when knocking Shiloh. I perhaps should have said that in my 'tinfoil' post, I wasn't bringing out the tinfoil from nowhere so to speak.
But still, yep could just have misheard and I could be misremembering. Aint a thing.
Greg's done everything he could to discredit these ladies and he's failed at every turn. The tide is against him now and there's nothing he can do about it but piss in the wind.
Shiloh's older but looks so much younger than Lainey. Lainey's going to continue prematurely aging badly unless she gets away from Greg, which looks less and less likely.
Literally everyone who lives in that house ages.
Billie's skin broke out, Shiloh ended up even more overweight and bald, even Sarah started to look a bit worn out, tired and thin.
They are all glowing and beautiful since leaving, but Foot is looking more and more like Ellen on crack.
Amazing how much life Greg sucks from them.
Can he afford not to have her making money on YouTube?
He was joking about needing a cameraman again in his “playing porn in my car” video so maybe he’s counting on flying over another “cameraman” like Sam and having her be profitable while Lainey fades into the background and does housework and child care.
Yeah it's hilarious how he keeps trying to shill the walking herpes-bot as innocent and amazing.
Just because she has more patrons than him, doesn't mean she is off the hook.
I don't think he realises how bad it is this time.
There were a few dumb suckers that fell for his act when Billie gate happened, but literally no-one thinks Lainey is an amazing angel human anymore.
>>726148>It's literally just Gerg trying to manipulate a wider audience with the same techniques he used to manipulate Kai/Sarah/Shiloh, etc
He's done this his entire time on youtube; manipulate the girls he's with, manipulate his audience. Going back to Shiloh, filming her seizures, being abusive
to her behind the scenes, he'd upload this shit claiming at first that it was real, asking for help from the internet (like he gave af about Shi in the first place), then he later went on to claim the entire thing was scripted/not real. He gaslights every single person he has any contact with.
I can't stand Shane but he probably could make a video now, considering that Lainey has also been outed as a groomer herself. He was always hesistant because of Lainey and the kids, but I could totally see him going there now.
Mind you, he's so focused on that ugly pallette, he might not.
Even just a shady mention or tweet would be great though. He doesn't need to make a 50 part series on it.
OT but it’s crazy how he genuinely believes the Anti-O community is a “scary” bunch of people who hate him for no reason. In reality, it’s a bunch of people sick of him and his abusive
antics. Yeah, this is a gossip board, and people who talk about the menial shit he does on here since it’s entertaining, but the real thing we’re dealing with his is easy accessibility to young girls who he manipulates, grooms, and abuses. That’s why the Anti-O community exists. He’s been an abusive
pos for the last 10 years. He’s not some poor dude who’s getting shit on for no reason, which I genuinely believe he thinks is the case.
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He honestly thinks the old 'Lainey is crying' shit is still going to work. It barely worked then and it definitely won't work now. And Lainey definitely won't make a 'my side of the story' video because she deep down knows all of this is fucking disgusting and wrong.
She ate up his bullshit about 'Billie cheating' but with this whole scenario, she KNOWS that it's dodgy as hell. She knows she can't play the victim
Honestly I didn't see Chris tearing up or getting emotional, he doesn't strike me as the type. Not that he lacks empathy, obviously he doesn't. He was definitely appalled at what he was hearing.
I thought it was funny when he asked Shiloh why she went back to Greg a second time. The mental abuse fucking up her perception notwithstanding, she was a 18/19, since when are teenagers known for their great decision making? The same goes for Sarah. Some people were upset at her for the 3some where C was sleeping on the bed. Sarah was obviously uncomfortable talking about that day, but it's important she knows that that situation only happened because the PARENTS in the room allowed it to happen. She was groomed and mentally fucked with by these two degenerates, on top of being a teenager.
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Actually does she even have to address this? I mean even then you could guess her reasoning. She lost the baby at around 5 weeks. People usually only get a sonogram at like 14 weeks so she probably didnt even have a photo of it.
So she being young and dumb just googled premmie baby and posted it.
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Really amazed by the strength these girls have shown after everything they went through. Hopefully their stories will help others protect themselves and their loved ones from predators and psychopaths.
Report and move on.
I could imagine, I have epilepsy. So when I have an "aura", I can end up being disoriented and unaware of what time or day it is. Even when looking at my phone with the time and date obviously there to be seen. I'll also freak out and be unsure if I have any responsibilities and try to figure out if I'm scheduled for anything, so I can try to sleep it off. And this is just from maybe a day of having a poor diet or sleeping later than I should.
If Shiloh was stressed out and on a weird schedule, not eating well, sleeping well (out in the hallway…) I could imagine she would feel even worst and have similar kinds of disassociation I might have. She could have probably been experiencing a panic attack, PTSD type episode on top of all of this. She would probably just blocked it all out to protect herself, it wasn't gone forever. Like with my disassociation, I'd sleep off the confusion or take a moment to ground myself and try to figure out whats up. So having her look at old videos or environments could have helped bring "lost memories" to light. I couldn't say for sure, but from my experiences its not far fetched.
I don't know what all Greg did to her before she had her first seizure but I've strongly suspected there might be some things that he did that she still might not remember.
Imagine being such a horrible piece of shit and causing someone so much stress that they go into a seizure? And then you film it. He thinks this shit is funny too. You know he gets off on it with his little god complex. He's insane.
(Repost for more clarification) I'm going to take the bait because I actually have epilepsy. After I reply no one else needs to because I will have given the scientific explanation.
Google "postictal state". After a grand mal seizure the brain is in the posictal state for 30-60 minutes usually (where it recovers from the damage done during the seizure); in this state one is confused as fuck, won't know their name, their parents, the year or anything else. One usually experiences amnesia and temporary memory loss - everything comes back though. You do get your memories back, for me it's usually after a period of sleep following a seizure. It's standard for EMS to ask you a ton of questions like "what year is it", "who's the president", on seizure calls to check if it's a real seizure episode and the person is in a postictal state.
Shiloh never gave consent. She was out of it, her brain was recovering. What he did was disgusting, horrifying and abusive
, and I empathize with her so much. If you've ever had a grand mal you'd know how terrifying it is, and how terrible it feels to not have your memory for the first hour after waking up and have everything slowly come back to you. Also the pain - you don't understand why you're in pain but you feel like you've just been jumped. Imagine having no one there to help you in that situation and being alone with Onion, and a camera, in his lil world.. I'd be terrified, Idk how she maintained her sanity.
samfag, but I didn't want to repost to add this lil tidbit; Shiloh said her first seizure was a stress induced one by Onion. It takes 2 seizures to be diagnosed with epilepsy, EVERYONE has the potential to have a seizure, and each seizure you have lowers your personal seizure threshold (which varies for everyone, like your metabolism).
Shiloh said she still deals with seizures to this day since that incident. Onion basically permanently lowered her seizure threshold and gave her epilepsy by causing stress-induced neurochemical changes. I know I don't have to explain how fucked up that is to you guys.
>>726514>"Its no fun, you don't even know you had a seizure and its just "What happened? Where and when did it happen?" Couldn't imagine not knowing that you even had a seizure."
Exactly, you're in a lot of pain, confused as hell and don't know up from down. I've done a lot of embarrassing things in the posictal state.
But your memory does come back. Especially if you didn't receive medical attention and weren't given benzos (epspecially through the IV), like she wasn't, thanks to Onion's lack of care. I wouldn't question her memory.
>>726514>I'm glad she is hopefully not going to be seen as the "crazy ex who lies"
Not anymore, no.
A thought that occurred to me just now - Jimmy boy only e-mailed Chris to complain about Shiloh "cheating" and getting pregnant. He didn't deny anything she said. All of the abuse ( physical & emotional ), he didn't deny anything. So, to put things into perspective: Sh was talking about some really messed up shit for an hour and the only thing that Jimmy had to say was that she "cheated" and got pregnant.
I'm glad he didn't deny it, but man…Talk about being completely out of touch regarding what's suppose to be normal and not.
Also, him saying that a patron told him the stream is going on…No, honey, just no. We've had confirmation that he watches everything "hate" related ( AJ ) and you can tell he reads here from his responses ( this isn't new, it goes back to over 2, 3 years ago ). It's so bizarre that he's denying watching content/reading posts. Anyone would do it, if for nothing else, to see what's going on. But not Jimmy, he's above that. Number of people he's fooling with this act: 0
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I'm guessing his next dupe/moneycow is probably McFly. Rumor has it they've boned. I'd feel sorry for Krai and her loveless marriage if she wasn't as big a shitstain as her husband. What's unfortunate is their kids are trapped in that dumpster fire of a home.
That's been his only defense against Shiloh for a while now. W-well she cheated! And got pregnant! It's so pathetic. He wants to act like all of these people are liars and smearing his name but they all have similar stories about him and he never properly denies them. He just pulls at whatever threads he thinks he can. The stuff Shiloh talked about was pretty gross but that's all he can retort?
I'd also be interested to see Chris interview Jaclyn just to get an outside perspective as someone who never dated him though I'm sure he wanted to date her. He always tried to control her relationship with SR and it was so weird.
And Shiloh claims he broke up with her days after she returned to Canada and so they were not together at the time she slept with another guy, right? Correct me if I’m wrong on these facts - it can be hard to keep everything straight.
So it’s really her word against his. And we have no reason to believe his word as he can provide no actual evidence that she cheated.
He calls her a liar on his email to Chris bht doesn’t actually say what she lied about. And once again, Greg has also been caught in lies. Many many times. Has he just forgotten those or does he really manage to fool himself by calling it “manipulation” (in the case of him lying to Skye about being suicidal) or “scripted content” (in the case of telling everyone that the videos or Shiloh were fake)
At this point I have to go with the theory that he has convinced himself his own made up narrative is the real truth cause i can’t imagine anyone not seeing how insane these emails sound to the rest of the world and continuously pushing this weak defense if they truly didn’t buy into their own bullshit
Sometimes it's a combination of actually believing his own crazy narrative or twisting the narrative if it doesn't make him look good.
I definitely think sometimes he's aware that he's completely wrong, but doesn't like taking responsibility or being seen in an unfavourable light so he tries to make it seem that it's not that bad. Sometimes his manipulation is successful, like making Lainey blame Billie for the cheating via 'communication' but sometimes it doesn't work at all- e.g. trying to say Sarah raped them.
I don't mean to blog post, but I do want to add a brief personal story to lend support to the reality of Shiloh briefly losing her memory after the seizure. I'm going to shorten it way down, however.
I witnessed a then boyfriend have a random seizure (never had one prior) and when he initially came out of it, his behavior was bizarre. He kept trying to kiss me, the best way to describe it was saying he seemed to be on a ton of xans. Paramedics arrived, he was in the back of the ambulance. By this time, he was not acting groggy. He was talking normally. We were trying to determine whether to send him to the hospital or not. Paramedics said they have 3 questions they wanted to ask him to help decide whether he needed further care. The first was his name. He knew that. The second was whether he knew me or not. He didn't. The third was "Who's the President of the United States." He said it was George Bush. Wrong. It was 2010, Obama was president. He kept insisting it was Bush, though. They took him to the hospital.
It was so…bizarre to witness someone seemingly "ok" and able to coherently answer questions and to answer these question so confidently but be so incorrect in their answers. He said Bush so matter of fact. He essentially lost some years, just like Shiloh, but was otherwise cognitive. Everything came back after a bit, like I'm sure it did with Shiloh.
As far as how she did on the stream, I could not be more impressed. I hung on her every word. She's a master communicator and really puts her soul into everything she says. So charismatic. I also think Hansen did a wonderful job as an interviewer and I'm so grateful he's taken such a legitimate interest in this and is the one handling it vs some quack ok youtube.
10/10, this stream was the best yet.
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I don;t feel bad for them at all anymore. If I were hanging around some person and like half the people in their past started talking about the horrifying things he did and said, I would think there was too many red flags, and ditch the relationship. Much less financially supporting the bastard. The only way his fucking retarded fans stop being his fan is when he turns his fugly gaze on them (see Dev, after the meetup they all had, plus actual fans of his who posted in this thread, one of whom actually said "I thought he was funny until he did it to me.") In my opinion, they are as culpable in some ways as he is, because they give him a platform to keep keeping on.
TLDR: I do not feel sorry for McFly. She is 100% aware of what Greg is at this point and is literally enabling him to be that way.
I couldn't agree more. After everything that's come out recently and with the women collectively outing Greg as a predator, I don't see how his paypigs can continue their support. Especially after Shiloh's appearance on Hansen's stream last night. There's been so much horrible shit with Gurp for the last decade, and yet the paypigs remain. But Shiloh was so compelling, so articulate, her story was so horrific and tragic and she spoke with such eloquence. How can anyone not be convinced now?
Honestly, I would love nothing more than for Blasian, specifically, to address this and how she can still support Greg now though I know she won't.
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Was regally struck by just how bad HomolKai looked in that podcast. While I definitely don’t feel bad for her bc of decisions she made- this is the physical affect Grunt has on his partner
He really thinks her finding another guy after they have BROKEN UP is worse than everything he's done to her.
"Yes, officer, I groomed her, I abused her, I killed my unborn child BUT SHE CHEATED ON ME REEEEEEE"
This. Lainey's smartest move would be to divorce, take the kids, grow out her hair,cut out the transtrending shit and change her name. She would then need to get a job and either give Sarah a settlement in court or something.
Even with an identity change, she's never going to be able to live down internally that she groomed children. The fucked up thing is that she doesn't really want to get offline. She just doesn't want criticism. She won't even do what's right for her kids right now because she cares too much about internet shekels and asspats.
What a self absorbed little asshole.
Taylor needs to speak for herself Greg, you're not doing her any favors by being her mouth piece. But I'm betting the reason she doesn't is because you won't be able to keep your stories straight.
And you and Taylor both have been given an opportunity to clear up all the "rumors" and "lies" to the public on Chris Hansen's show. Why wouldnt two completely innocent people who dindu nuffins resist that opportunity? C'mom show us all the "faaaaaaaaxxxxx" kek.
OT as fuck but I just came across this old video of Lainey on Younow sperging at/about Sam after Sam left the Grease Mansion and I wanted to share it because it highlights just how GOD DAMNED SMUG Lainey is about Greg and his abuse of women. She's 100% victim
blaming Sam, accusing Sam of wanting her Neanderthal Waterheaded husband, while openly excusing Greg's behavior. You can't see the comments, but by her responses, you can tell several people are calling Greg's disgusting behaviors out and Lainey straight refuses to validate them. When she can't outright deny how horrible an action of his was, she just says "wElL iM nOt gReG." Yet she has literally no problem victim
blaming Sam and going off on her. Sam is watching the stream and commenting, by the way.
I don't know, this stream got me heated with just how fucking smug she is, how angry she is that the people commenting aren't oN hEr SiDe (WHERE'S MY SYMPATHY, anyone?) and how she continually excuses Grepedo's awful behavior. Like she keeps complaining that people who are rightfully calling her and Gurp out just "aren't understanding the situation." She's unrelenting in her smug "iM tHe ViCtIm
sAm iS a HoMeWrEcKiNg wHoRe!!!!"
It is cathartic though, watching her and her smug ass attitude with the knowledge that she's finally being outed for the terrible fucking predator that she is. And that nobody is extending her any wHeReS mY sYmPaThY and will never again in the future. And that her career is ruined, her public image is ruined, her private life is ruined, and that she may even end up in jail and on the sex offender registry when this is all said and done. It makes me so grateful that she can't even drop her kids off at school without having uwu anxiety about whether or not other parents are starring and thinking about how much of a gross predator she is (which we know for a fact that they are and even posing pictures to Facebook groups, KEK.) All she can do now is sit in her Swamp Shack miserable with her prize, The Waterhead Caveman. Enjoy it, Lainey.
On another note, has Sam said anything regarding the #DeplatformPredators movement?
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Can't wait to see this pedo on the sex offender list and/or hopefully in jail.
my ass. She wanted that caveman bc they both wanna diddle kids.
>>726632>16:42 - Please, give me a call. Give me a call and tell me wha-what's gonna ruin my marriage. Please. I-I'm prepared for this.
Seems awfully telling…
>18:33 - If you're not gonna tell me about it then either 1. it didn't happen or 2. you don't actually like care to um [pause] uh [pause] like save somebody from a situation where someone's like not treating them well. so. yeah. OOF
now this one, is Lainey accidentally kinda admitting that Onion treats her badly and she's looking for any damning evidence to split them up?
>18:53 - But I haven't I ha-[stops this train of thought to mumble a question
Seems, like she was trying to backtrack to clarify that she isn't being treated badly, but we all fucking know Lainey.
It also shows that now she’s totally going into hiding with everything that sarah brought to light that it’s legitimate. Not that anyone was questioning it before but she’s clearly capable of standing up for herself when she feels like she’s in the right.
Also it’s so funny and sad that in a lot of these streams that she’s asked for proof that Greg is cheating on her because she would leave him if he did it (again) but now sarah has come forward and proved that he cheated on her while she was in New Mexico but she’s turning a blind eye to it and staying with him. What possible mental gymnastics could she pull to excuse it?
It’s sad that she pretends that she still has limits to his behavior but there clearly are none. He can do whatever and she will stick by him. The fact that she said he could hit her and she would stay proves she’s too deep in it to protect herself, her kids, or any unfortunate girls that get sucked into their orbit.
She mentioned their poly arrangement isn’t an open relationship but I’m surprised that Greg hasn’t pushed for that. Lainey would be forced to go along with it and it would save him the annoyance of having to run people by her and deal with her. I don’t know if he gets off on the cheating on her becuase he’s done it with basically every third they’ve had but if cheating on her isn’t some weird bonus for him, it would eliminate that as a problem.
She’s already gone along with so much already, it would just be another step forward and likely protect her from divorce because he wouldn’t be forced to chose.
Also lol that she says Sam says she has all this evidence but won’t show it (because it doesn’t exist) but that’s literally what Greg is doing with Sarah. He’s claiming he has all this evidence but is so ~above the drama~ that he doesn’t want to share it. No, it’s just because he’s so squarely in the wrong that he can’t defend his actions.
He probably knows that if he had encouraged her career, she eventually would have had someone in her life (besides her parents) telling her to GTFO that relationship. A key abuse tactic is isolation, not only from family, but from anyone that is remotely paying attention/can see the abuse for what it is, and would have the ability to help her get out, i.e. a trusted manager or a musician she might befriend while touring that could open her eyes and help her find another place to live etc. Of course some women will be like Lamey and make excuses no matter what, but plenty of women DO get out of abusive
situations in part because they had a loving support system, and Grug would be aware of this.
Fuck I wish I remember where he said this, but he has literally said before (in relation to Lamey I believe) that he wants to be a part of every possible moment of her life and happiness, because He'S sOoo BiZzZyy that any free time he has MUST be focused on their relationship. Sh being a truly thriving musician would have been a huge threat to his ability to control her happiness.
Grug likes to give himself asspats about how he helped Lainey be "self sufficient" by giving her $1000s a month or whatever he claimed, but notice that he has only ever encouraged her YOUTUBE career, which he basically forced/guilted upon her (and continues to try and force), not her desire to be a counselor or lactation specialist or whatever tf she wanted to be, anything that would actually get her out of the house and in contact with real people. He definitely wants his partner making money and helping make his reputation shinier, but only in a controlled environment where he can have access to all communication (her texts, patreon, DMs, etc) and/or coming directly from his pockets, so that she feels forever indebted to him.
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Smerggy's livestream emails
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>>726632>he just wanted to keep her as a "camerman"
I can't tell if she actually wanted others to believe this or if she believed his bs. Either way, what stupid cunt blaming all her issues on a teen. "I just let people walk all over me I guess!" fucking wow
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Sperging about #metoo now lol
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Greg only wants Chris Hansen to have a show again so he can go on there and finally be on tv.>>726683>>726684
He makes himself look too retarded to exist without supervision.
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Nope, she hasnt been very active on twitter. Last tweet was in early aug and thats it.
Also, old milk but i asked her what happened after this spreg from lainey and this was her response.
>>726686>Greg only wants Chris Hansen to have a show again so he can go on there and finally be on tv.
I wouldn't put that past Greg. By now I consider him stupid enough to actually think that way.
On a completely different note and just as a side note for the future, I watched Greg's stream yesterday and he seemed to be somewhat hostile towards Tamara who, if I remember correctly, has been one of his moderators for quite some time.
He made fun of her, came down on her and patronized her several times. She just laughed it off but didn't really seem bothered to change anything in order not to inconvenience Greg. I'm not sure if that was her poker face or if she really didn't bother, I never know with his patrons tbh. But it strongly reminded me of how Greg treated Becca (Sylar's Becca) before they had a fallout because she was not submissive enough.
I really don't want to distract from Chris's interview with Shiloh but it might be worth keeping an eye the situation.
Epileptic seizures can also be induced by stress. It's one of the more common triggers
. If she already had epilepsy and didn't know it, or was prone to developing it, her very first grand mal seizure 100% could be attributed to stress. Not to mention, part of the treatment for PNES is to tell the patient that they have it, so considering she called them grand mal seizures, that probably means she does, in fact, have epilepsy and the extreme stress just triggered
it. PNES also don't usually come with the extreme post-seizure fog like actual epileptic seizures, though it can.>>726632
God, she's the fucking worst. I mean, I do believe Lainey is as much of a victim
of Greg as any one of these girls, but I also believe she's a bad person and deserves whatever's coming to her. Being an abuse victim
doesn't give you a free pass to do whatever. She made that choice independently of her abuse. Skye nor Shiloh nor Sarah have turned around and started preying on children. Best case scenario, I'm hoping her stupidity will bring her and Greg down so neither of them have access to young girls anymore.
sage for possibly unpopular opinion but if you watched the videos, it is pretty clear that Shiloh made this episode up. Her display of symptoms were not consistent with ANY medical condition.
Saying this it is also very clear that she did this because she was under a lot of mental stress and had some sort of mental breakdown due to Gregmas abuse.
I honestly wish Shiloh would have come clean about her own erratic behavior because like another anon said, it was clearly caused by Greg. Nevertheless, she played his game and realised that she could get his attention by coming up with dramatic shit. She did post a photo of a premature baby and claimed it was hers, she did exaggerate her "sepsis", she did exaggerate her mental breakdowns.
This, completely. I dont think Shiloh is any less of a victim
for it all either.
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Hm, does that mean they did do illegal things???
what does she have to own up to? being confused, without anyone to support her or help her out, and not knowing what to do so she looked things up on the internet? lying because she didn’t want to be torn apart online at such a young age? she was a young teenager manipulated by a man nearly twice her age into an abusive
coercive relationship where she was extremely isolated and completely cut off from anything outside of him. she did dumb shit for attention, like all teens do, since he was constantly playing fast and loose with her feelings to make her always feel like she wasn’t good enough. she acted out for his attention because he was berating her, disrespecting her, depriving her of sleep, denying her privacy, and verbally and even physically assaulting her (shaving her head). she doesn’t have to “come clean” for anything, since most people were under the assumption already that she was lying because that’s what Greg pushed. I get wanting the fact to be set straight but most anons are gonna have to live without knowing exactly how everything went down and will have to take some people at their word. Shiloh is much older and much more aware now of all the terrible shit that was orchestrated by him and how it affected her, but she doesn’t have to admit to every lie she ever told online, especially not when the focus is supposed to be on taking down a predator. Nobody beyond Greg’s little echo chamber will listen to him if he kicks up a stink about Shiloh being a “liar” in the past and even if she lied, it’s a drop in the bucket compared to the current milk.
The worst part is Taylor probably resisted fucking Greg in front of the kids at first. But the SOB has to have exactly what he wants when he wants it. I imagine he threw a fit, screaming at her, calling her names and twisting her words until she gave in. (I was abused in a similar way in high school, only instead of little kids it was in front of other teenagers.)
Greg handed Taylor so many reasons to walk out on a silver fucking platter. So, so many.
Yup, remember the texts between them during Billiegate, while he was with Billie and Lainey was elsewhere crying and angry-texting him, where he said he was getting aroused and he needed affection etc? Basically low-key threatening that he was going to do something with Billie no matter what she said.
Lamey will do literally anything to satisfy Grot's deranged paraphilias, at the risk of anyone else. I remember she asked Sarah to provide the "pair of tits" in their 3way relationship. Fucking gross.
I honestly imagine Greg didn't even need to throw the fit or scream at her for Lainey to give in. She has such a skewed view of what is normal. Her only relationship outside of Greg was with that David guy. She has no real life experience, or support system, because Greg manipulates her into thinking everyone that tries to help her is an "EVIL HATUURRRR," not saying that I feel bad for the bitch, though; not after this Sarah shit, I can't. She's as dumb as bricks. Has a bachelor in psych, and can't see how fucked this all is, and now is becoming just as bad.>>726747
Shiloh also said that they had sex for up to 8 times a day (Adrienne mirrored this, saying that they would have so much sex that her genitals hurt,) ON TOP of masturbating constantly. How is it even possible to have that high of a sex drive? Jfc.
I agree. I don't think that "make a rainbow" shit was real. That doesn't mean I don't think Shiloh is a victim
, though. She probably doesn't feel like she could ADMIT that it was fake, because she would be discredited about everything else. I could believe the seizure in the shower, but I'm pretty sure she's admitted at one point that the "make a rainbow" video was fake in a blog post. I understand why she may have faked it, if it was in fact fake, though, like I said.
Greg seemed to have stone-walled her a lot; locked her out of the room when crying to masturbate, that break down video where he just coldly ignored her while she's crying hysterically, etc, and she may have been desperete to dramatize things to get a reaction out of him instead of him just talking in that creepy ass calm voice, with no facial expression like he did in her break down video. Like… imagine being in that much distress, and he's just coldly staring at you, recording everything you're doing.
sage for slight sperg, but it always feels gross whenever he uses people he'd gladly bully in order to feel better about himself
like the Demi Lovato quote, he does know she's self harmed, has battled an eating disorder and done drugs right? That's the trifecta of things he screeches about yet has no problem using a quote from a celebrity/famous person to make himself look good or to gain sympathy. He's done this before with Christina Ricci I think, he has no problem making fun of their psychological problems but would easily slip in a quote they probably said in regards to their troubles. It feels so sleazy and creepy, yuck.
As an anon stated earlier, seizures can cause memory loss and confusion after the episode. Traumatic dissociative amnesia can also cause a sudden loss of memory. I don't see why someone would lie about that.
Not to blogpost, but I also had a similar experience and lost a lot of memories. To answer a question from last night, it was possible to re-remember things by looking at pictures, videos, old posts, etc.
Yeahhhh not exactly the most credible source. Its best to look to medical literature on such things if you want a better estimation of whether the seizure was real or not - and it seems that it doesn't actually add up. People can go look it up for themselves though.
Shiloh was a victim
of severe emotional abuse, that's a fact. It's is a possibility she faked the seizure. That doesn't take away from what Greg did to her imo. even if she did. People who are currently experiencing mental breaks from being in a severely abusive
environment can end up doing much, much worse than faking seizures for sympathy/love out of desperation for those things. Perhaps it was an attempt to get him to stop being so horrible to her. I don't doubt that she was genuinely extremely stressed, and desperate, for things to change.
I mean, Onisions current spouse became a groomer as a result of that environment… IF the worst Shiloh did was get upset/desperate and so lie about a seizure or memory loss, when she was an isolated teenager in that house with that guy, I'm sure that can be forgiven and understood with compassion for her situation tbh
She wasn't, they weren't even together at the time. I agree with all of this >>726762
But, the "story is over", Sh came on the show unlike Jimmy and she did great. That's all that matters.
This. It doesn't matter if the seizure was real or fake and who fucking cares, the main point is that she was abused and traumatized but still managed to break away and eventually talk about her experience with Chris Hansen.
Taylor could learn a thing or two from the woman she replaced.
>But, the "story is over", Sh came on the show unlike Jimmy and she did great. That's all that matters.
Agreed. I'm the anon who said they would be 'proud of her' if she owned up to her lies and explained the story behind them, and why she did… and after watching her, I'm still proud of her. She did amazing and I agree now that really IS all that matters. If she feels at all uncomfortable about going over how she reacted to the abuse back then, then of course she needn't have to say anything. I see that now after how well she actually did.
She was the victim
through it all after all, no matter her reactions to the abuse. Whatever reactions she may have had to being in that abusive
situation, as a teenager, she didn't hurt anyone else with them (Unlike current spouse becoming a groomer). If there were lies, then they were silly ones that hurt no one, that don't matter anymore. She was a desperate kid. I've changed my mind on it and don't think she really needs to 'admit' to anything nor explain herself. She was the victim
, he was the perpetrator, and anything besides her exposing his actions is just fluff imo.
This is just a consequence of his misguided credo that all attention is good attention.
We all see people through the lens of our own personality. He actually thought their incentive for making videos on him was just YouTube bux.
He thought they were just attention-seekers like himself, and would side with him on that basis.
He's desperate for an ally. He won't find any. Not even the prison population would ally with a pedo. Even the worst criminals would rage at anyone who appears on Chris Hansen's show.
>>726743>Greg handed Taylor so many reasons to walk out on a silver fucking platter. So, so many.Being weak is not a sin.
I wish you and all the farmers would remember that. Her not leaving him is not what makes her guilty or a bad person.
The way she treated Sarah, Billie, and all the other girls is.
Even though it's obvious she just forwarded the abuse inflicted on herself towards them. Becoming the abuser yourself is an unacceptable way of coping with abuse you suffered.
Anyone who can watch dozens of girls get abused and still stay with the person abusing them is just as guilty.
Taylor is a weak bitch who put her kids in danger because she's a weak bitch. She's a terrible person.
It's not weakness itself that makes her a terrible person.
It's her conscious choice of gaining power and strength at the expense of other weak people.
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We applaud Shiloh for leaving but in reality, the only reason she stayed away was the fact that she had a network of people preventing her from going back. She was going to go back, she admitted it herself.
We aren't calling her weak or a bitch or saying she deserved it. Taylor being abused into staying wasn't the reason she's an assole.
There's a LOT of women who stay in abusive
relationships and do terrible things. It's a product of the environment and she's got her own massive share in guilt but not because she didn't take a chance to leave.
Others have already said this now but just to add to the chorus - I agree with you up until there are kids involved, who are even more vulnerable and helpless than Kainey ever was. There have been hundreds of warning signs, from before they were even together, up through the last couple months, that have shown anyone with a heart/brain that Greg is a horrific and abusive
spouse, romantic partner, father, and overall human being. Of course leaving Greg, once she was saddled with children, was always going to be "difficult" but ultimately at every turn she has put herself, her disgusting husband, and their uwu twin flame tru wuv fantasy bullshit over the wellbeing of her CHILDREN, who most parents would take a bullet for rather than subject them to what they've seen and lived through in the Onion Horrorshow Household. They live in an absolute dump and get to be exposed to an endless revolving door of young abused women, and to the Onions' disgusting sex lives. Even if their circumstances magically improved overnight (they won't, if anything they will likely get worse), these kids will have lasting trauma and once they are old enough to know who their family is and old enough to start being tormented/ostracized by other schoolkids about it, they will be even further damaged. Lainey is no longer a victim
, she's a predator, enabler, emotional abuser, and a horrible mother who does not deserve her children whatsoever. Just because she has kept her children alive/fed/clothed up to this point does not mean she deserves any fucking mom points.
It's actually worse than that. She conceived children in order to appease him.
It still doesn't make her a bad person, just a desperate one.
She became a bad person when she started to emulate him.
Shiloh and Sarah were both forced into making videos and posts under coercion, why is it so hard to believe Taylor is being treated the same?
We know Greg has a gun, or several in the house, because of police reports.
Neighbors and friends have called in DV reports.
I don't think it's a far leap to say that Greg has probably said, when she tried to leave before, "If you leave and take the kids, I'll kill them and you and myself."
Greg is about control. Shiloh was basically forcibly impregnated, I'm sure Taylor was too.
She's a shitty person because of her own share of guilt.
If anyone could get Taylor away from Greg, and ask questions later, it would be better.
Save the kids. Save her. Punish who needs to be punished after.
It's not the same knowing you were conceived by rape or coercion instead of being a product of love.
Don't even attempt minimizing the difference.
Are there seriously people who DONT believe Greg is worse than Lainey?
Gregs been doing this to kids way before Lainey showed up. Heck she was one of the kids he did it to. He's the original.
Lainey is a shit because she chose to join in. There are many ways someone can break because of abuse… and Lainey is the type of person to 'break' by thinking 'Oh ok I'll join in then, just so I can keep my famous youtuber husband and feel special and loved and I am the most important person in the world so its ok'. Thats why shes a shit.
She's the type of woman you see on those true crime shows, who snatch kids to 'gift' to their pedo boyfriends. If greg had asked her to do that, bet your ass the fuck up would.
But who in their right mind thinks shes WORSE than the guy orchestrating this shit? The one who wants to diddle the kids? If there's one thing we know, Lainey isn't at all attracted to women. She didn't want to lure in those teenage girls for sexual abuse for herself. Admiration, perhaps, but she's not the kiddy fiddler here. She helps one be one. He's the one that wants her to help him.
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Not sure what your point is. Her having the children in the first place isn't even what people point to as one of her abusive
acts - it's the fact that she has stayed SO LONG despite everything.
Her life could have been so fucking different if she had actually sacked up and left as she apparently intended to after Billiegate. Maybe them talking about separating was just for the clicks but I do suspect she was almost there and she would have been given so much fucking support from the internet, not to mention custody of the kids and likely alimony, if she had left. But ultimately she chose Grease over anyone else.>>726797
He's probably said that shit in the past few months, but I don't believe for a second she would have actually been in bodily harm if she had left after most of the NUMEROUS events in the past where he has shat all over her. For most of their relationship Greg was still making decent Youtube money, and Lamey would probably be too weak to pursue her full claim to alimony / would have settled it outside of court, so no need for him to threaten her and he'd finally be away from the kids, which we all know he doesn't give a fuck about. This is also bullshit when you consider the fact that since there are guns in the house, they are literally in more danger STAYING THERE than if she left / hopped on a plane in the middle of the night to another state, or if she got the police to help escort her out. Ffs. If he's one meltdown away from killing his entire family, them staying is no guarantee that it won't happen, but it sure as fuck makes it easier for him to actually kill them.
I am perhaps one of the few that still believe Greg is overall worse than Lainey, and obviously agreed step #1 is get them all away from Greg in a place where he couldn't get to them, but still not convinced any of this means she should be sympathized with at this point.
Most laymen think of epilepsy as just the grand mal seizures. But no! It is not just that. Absence seizures or petit mal seizures are also very frequent, and you do not need to suffer from epilepsy to experience them
I have seen my mother go through petit mal seizures and it looks a lot like what happened to Shiloh. After petit mal seizures my mother would have a hard time slowly regaining awareness. She would be a bit lost in time, so to say. Loose a few years, forget where she is, ect.
Of course she could have left. I think she actually has been back to her parents house without him too, including recently. Wasn't Sarah saying that Greg got her over secretly and slept with her whilst Lainey was visitng last parents?
Even if Lainey left the kids with Greg (which is bloody stupid, but anyway…) she could have reached out to her parents when she was with them, telling them everything, asking them to come back with her and help her get the kids and leave. Get the police with her. Anything.
Or her parents could have done what Sh's Mom did tbh but I wont blame them for that, I dont doubt that Lainey has been way more of a brat towards them than Sh was towards her mother (and Sh admits she was a total brat to her mom, at Gregs desire).
This has been going on years. She IS pretty isolated, but she still could visit her parents, she still has a whole internet telling her how not-normal this is. A lot of abuse victims
stay because they are completely cut off, and the relationship they are in starts to become normalised in their minds because they have nothing reminding them that it's a fucked up situation.
But nope she's totally happy to keep going back to him. She is no longer a trapped abuse victim
anymore. She is choosing this, because she is the type of person who finds this preferable now. Apparently.>>726810
Oh no anon I certainly wasn't trying to judge your implication that others think Lainey is worse. Sorry it came off that way. My exclaimation about it is more frustration about the people who perhaps DO think shes worse. About the fact you're perhaps right that they think Lainey is worse than Onision (which sounds stupid to even have to type to me). I agree with everything you seem to be saying here.
That's not a domestic violence report.
It's called a "welfare check", which is why it says
"REQ CHECK ON FRIEND". The person is literally requesting a welfare check on their friend. You
can request a welfare check on anyone
, and if the reason is good enough it will happen. https://thelawdictionary.org/article/what-is-a-police-welfare-check/
My point is she is not a bad person for staying too long with her abuser. She's not a bad person for not properly parenting the kids she was not prepared to have and was coerced into conceiving. To think otherwise is victim
She is a bad person for choosing to deal with the abuse she suffered by perpetuating it. Inflicting it on other vulnerable people like herself. Thinking it would make her less of a victim
, it would somehow negate the abuse she went through.
But it doesn't work that way. She remains both a victim
, and became an abuser.
But those of you who blame her for her weakness are part of the problem, part of the reason she chose to become the abuser. The blame and shame you lay so nonchalantly.
Just think about how Shiloh was judged until recently, and by some still today. We all play a part in this tragedy, and not always a good one.
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Most obvious sock I've ever seen from Greg. Anime pfp, just retweets shit Greg likes, first tweet was "Life is like a box of chocolates, it doesn't last long for fat people."
What's telling to is that she's had all these secret conversations with multiple people about leaving Greg and how bad things really are without him knowing when Sh and Sk would get their phones taken away for days and have to beg for it back just to make one phone call. If Taylor was being treated even close to as bad as getting her head shaved mid fuck, being refused life saving medical treatment, or being chained in the basement, evidence would be pouring out from people like Sarah. She's being abused but she's also a shitty person for siding with Grease against his other victims
and revelling in being treated less shitty in comparison while throwing them under the bus to him.
>>726823>those of you who blame her for her weakness are part of the problem, part of the reason she chose to become the abuser
Anon, what are you on about? She never gave a shit about what people had to say in regards to her relationship with Jimmy. We don't even know what she's actually thinking right now, lol. Yes, she's both a victim
and a predator, I think that much is clear to everyone without you specifying it point by point.
Yep. Shes obviously not being treated half as bad as the others. I think it's because she was so prepared to be the doormat, to please him. She was and is perhaps the victim
of manipulation and emotional abuse, but the point is she waas so ready to take it. She's just so happy to take it. So Greg has no reason to try to beat her down, or treat her even worse for that aim.
Shiloh is a very, very strong person - that much was evident from the beginning tbh, shes no shrinking violet (and she was also successful in her own right, which he would find threatening). Billie had strength. Sarah obviously does too. Greg treated them worse because he NEEDED to break them, beat them down.
He never really had to with Lainey. She was happy to go along with it. If he has any love for her, I bet its based on the fact that hes found a great sidekick for himself who will always stroke his ego in the end, and absolutely not a thing more.
Imagine if he had started trying to use any of the other girls to abuse others. Imagine if he had tried to encourage Shiloh to help him lure in kids and use them for sex. Even at her weakest and worst and most broken state, I bet she would never, ever, EVER have. Despite her wanting to stay with him, I bet that would have made her run a mile. But Lainey didn't seem to need much convincing at all to get involved, did she? And Im sure its her weakness that gave Greg the courage to get ehr to do it in the first place… he knew she was only too willing to abuse with and for him.
Madison was criticized for trying to make what was going on about her at first rather than sharing her experience and letting the victims
find their voices.
Sarah is revealing more information here. She hasn’t given the details yet but that doesn’t mean she won’t or she doesn’t have them.
I don’t see how they’re related.
I find it to be attention seeking how she teases information but then doesn't release it
(like with the computer and now with the Shane Dawson thing)but i don't think she's Madision-tier
Pointing out Lainey's abuse behind the scenes is not making excuses.
She told Lainey she made her bed and she needs to lie in it.
She's just responding to Twitter anon talking about ghosting and revealing that Greg does it to Lainey behind the scenes.
She's not saying that Lainey is absolved or forgiven about anything.
She doesn't owe the internet anything. Also she has a life. She has released enough info to take him down and it's up to her to release more when she wants to.
Why are people suddenly being impatient assholes and comparing her to Madison all of a sudden?
Yeah, and I really feel for her on this. She really loved Lainey. When she says that she loved her, you can feel just how much with how she says it. She still does. I bet so much of her wants to excuse everything Lainey did to her too, and defend her. Her brain will be making excuses for Lainey still, I bet.
But instead she is being strong, rightly blaming Lainey for her part in it, and from what I can tell trying to just stick to the facts of what she witnessed when it comes to the treatment Lainey receives from Greg. In a snarky way, perhaps, but how else is she supposed to deal with it honestly with all that emotion behind it. Who is to say how she should be dealing with ANY of this.
People also seem to forget that she's not really very old. She's 19? That really is still a very young immature age, all told, people are still figuring themselves out/maturing at 19 and on top of that she spent YEARS completely wrapped up with the Onions. Both her emotions, and her behaviour, are gonna be a bit of a rollercoaster/eccentric right now. Tbh shes doing incredibly well considering the circumstances. She's a credit to herself. Taking a snarky/immature tone now and then doesn't mean shit.
People who judge her on her weaknesses (failing to leave Onision, letting him cheat and demean her etc) add onto all her pre-existing insecurities and Onision's deliberate negging, creating in her the sense that her weakness is not only her main problem, but also making it a point of shame.
Therefore, in her struggle for herself, she has as a priority to eliminate weakness. And she only can think how to do it by copying the one person she sees has power in her life. Her abusive
Oh yes, of course. It is everyone elses fault Lainey helped Greg to lure in teenage girls for him to manipulate and fuck. What else can someone do when other people judge them for being weak? Of course the only path she could possibly take is to help abuse teenage girls.
Anon, I have been a huge Lainey defender up until the moment I heard Sarah came forward, but she chose her path. There were options available to her, she could have left, she could have opened up to her family, to the internet, she could have left WITH Billie or Sarah even… she had support in them even though they were victims
, don't forget that. Those girls found their own power that she could have 'copied'. That she STILL could. She could still leave, like they did.
Any moment now, she could look and see all these girls and young women banding together and draw power from that, join them in turning against him, telling her real true story - IF she really is only a weak, poor victim
. Of course she wouldnt want to join them, if she is actually on board with what Greg is doing and actually actively enjoys having that sort of power over others like he does, and is content with him where she is (spoiler, she is).
She chose to, and continues to choose to, respond in this way. She chose to be and remain against them, and with Greg. She is choosing Greg, despite other choices available to her, and other paths there for her. That is no one elses fault but her own - possibly Gregs of course.
If she was faking that spaced out, far away look with pupils the size of Kansas then she's a damn good actor. Not to mention how freaked out she acted after having lost her memory. I don't doubt she suffered a lot of psychological harm from what Greg did to her, and given how young she was at the time.
How does one go about "exaggerating" sepsis? You either have it or you don't. Her body didn't pass her deceased fetus within the acceptable timeframe, causing her to go septic. Her mother was in the hospital with her. She was a witness.
No shit. They groomed her into thinking she was different from the other girls. Every victim
is smug until they are burnt by the onions. This doesn't mean she shouldn't be taken seriously now, and it doesn't mean she needs to release the info the way you want it.
She's slowly unravelling what happened to herself, I think she's still realising the trauma, and bitching that she's not releasing enough info or bitching that it's not released a certain way is annoying. Just be grateful she's come forward.
Shiloh didn't get the oppurtunity to explain this in the stream, although she started to try to.
She didn't actually have sepsis, ever, and she hadn't gone septic. She would tell you that herself if she could.
She was told that because the fetus hadn't passed, there was a high risk of it - she googled it, not understanding what it was, and got throughly freaked out about the concept of it (because its fucking scary). She was already emotional over losing her baby, and Greg being Greg towards her, and paniced about it, even though she didn't actually have sepsis. Greg filmed it, of course…
We saw her during a vulnerable moment where she was freaking the fuck out over getting sepsis, but she didn't actually have it. Greg should never have filmed that, and if he had been supportive and handled it properly, we'd never have been under the impression that 'she said she had sepsis'. She had a minor freakout/panic attack that she should have been reassured out of, and taken to the hospital ofc and not filmed.
She has explained this before and as I said, tried to explain it on Chris Hansen before the topic was moved on in the discussion. She never had sepsis, and never went septic (which are two different things to begin with btw).
Some other anon pointed out a while ago that all of the people releasing information slowly and over time had strategic value for them and I think they’re right. Rather than have all the cards on the table, where Greg could go into hiding for a few weeks and have the internet forget about it, by slowly revealing stuff over time, they’re able to keep it in front of people and keep Greg struggling against it.
She’s also coming to terms with what happened to her and that’s a process. I don’t think we can be demanding about pace even though it would be nice to know everything that went on because I’m sure there was a lot.
On top of this it's also likely she's only bringing stuff up when she is reminded of it, or something comes up that encourages her to mention something specific. This is an incredibly confusing time for her.
People really need to get off her case about releasing information, and timings, and her tone when doing so. She is a mere 19 years old and was just interviewed publicly by Chris Hansen about abuse that only really came to an end a few months ago, after 5 years endrenched in it. Yeah people really need to give her a bit of a break. She is talking, and that's a lot already. And keeping people talking is definitely a good idea too.
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Unrelated but huge ego trip going on on Twitter rn lol
She said something about after he shaved her head completely he wanted to use her in skits as bald characters, e.g. The Last Airbender. He's taken all his instances of abuse and attempted to use them as fodder for his shitty videos. I've no doubt that had Billie agreed to the insane shit he wanted her to do (which she rightfully called abusive
) he would've tried to make money off of it. That's who he is.
Greg never actually wanted children, it's just his (hold my lunch) pregnancy fetish. Shiloh's the perfect example. His first words in person to her were "I can't wait to get you pregnant". Not because he loved her, gave any fucks about her as a woman or human being (made obvious by how he treated her), wanted to start a family etc., but because of his fucking pregnancy fetish. That's the ONLY reason he knocked up Lainey. He doesn't care about his children any more than she does. The fact he was getting ready to sign away T to run off with Billie is proof enough. For all we know he's getting ready to run off with McFly.
If Lainey had one speck of consideration for the well being of her children she would've left Greg a long time ago. She has (or had) parents she can stay with.
>>726823>She's not a bad person for not properly parenting the kids she was not prepared to have and was coerced into conceiving.
If she wasn't prepared to have kids she should've decided not to have them. Was she not old enough to make that decision? We don't know if she was coerced or not, regardless, this still doesn't absolve her of not properly caring for her own children. As far as we know, not only did she choose to have those kids, she believes she's a stellar parent on top of it.
If she hadn't dragged her children into this shitshow she might've garnered a little sympathy. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to think that maybe having sex with your small child sitting near, or sleeping on the bed isn't a great idea. She's just as bad a parent as her husband.
I just realized… When Gurg emailed Chris about how he was still mad that Sh got pregnant with another man's babby, that was his fucking pregnancy fetish talking.
No mention of anything else she talked about.. All he cares about is getting off.
Yeah agreed, I don't believe for a moment he loves either of his children, they're just the byproduct of his pregnancy fetish (as >>726878
, which is itself an extension of his need to control and have a woman entirely subservient to him. I forget who it was, but one of the girls brought to the Onions house said he was a complete dick to T even during something as stupid as playing a fucking videogame, and he doesn't even believe his children are worth interacting with until they are able to form sentences. And Lamey has never been shy about the fact that he does none of the fucking childcare.
And as you say, the biggest damning evidence against him here is the fact that he was so ready to jump into signing away parental rights. The argument that "momz know best!" is fucking horseshit, no loving dad would agree to that shit. He was absolutely excited at the prospect of never having to worry about his spawn again. Too bad he remembered that he hates alimony more than he hates his kids.
She got plan B the very next morning.
The only kinds of relationships Greg knows are where he's using people as a means to an end. That's all he'll ever know.
I don’t think it’s necessarily fair to say she could really decide if she was ready for a child as a fresh 18 year old who was with her idol who was still in the process of love bombing her to get his hooks in and really encouraging her to have a baby with him. Her life probably seemed like a fairytale at that point and having a kid with someone is often part of that happily-ever-after she probably bought into as a teen. No offense to teenagers but they are pretty unrealistic when it comes to stuff like that and I really think their poor judgement is part of their appeal to Greg.
So I don’t think it’s fair to say she was wrong to have kids with him at that point but now that she’s older and wiser she should own up to the fact that she’s not putting them in a good environment. She now knows who he really is and how damaging and manipulative he is where he might’ve still had a pretty convincing mask at the beginning of their relationship. So I don’t think she should be blamed then but she should be held accountable now for her inaction. >>726888
I think it’s because he views T as an extension of himself. It’s apparently pretty common for narcissists to “love” their kids when they’re making the narc look good but be cold and angry when they make them look bad (even something stupid like not being good at a game which is stupid becuase he’d probably be angry too if the son beat him because he can’t stand to lose either. It’s a lose-lose for the kid).
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Greg demonstrates that homonyms are too advanced a concept for him to wrap his tiny waterbrain around.
Imagine being in his position and still joking about grooming. Ok pedo
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More dumbass polls.
I was looking at one of his old videos crying about her "deceit" and I saw this comment which surprised me since it lines up with Shiloh's reference to Judge Judy and I guess Onision got the idea from his comments. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50UIC0EjBIE&lc=UgxfNnphUc0GhV3B3pV4AaABAg
. Sorry it's a direct link to the video I don't think you can just link a comment anymore.
she's reassuring herself that she's self-sufficient and doesn't need a man, meanwhile greg is making her build this bedframe by herself since he's busy "working" and probably forcing her to film it so she can keep bringing in patreon money for him
and yea also because she's been wanting a bedframe for literally 3 years
Probably some weird way to feel like he has power over his victims
and doesn't care what they think
I second the cap, but the Judge Judy thing is real. People were posting that JJ would tear him a new one and Jimmy posted on FB, something along the lines of "It would be an honour to be torn a new one by that gorgeous woman". He called her a gorgeous woman because this was also the time where he was dealing with grooming allegations/being attracted to very young girls ( yes, even back then, just on a much smaller scale, what's happening now/has happened since then can't compare ) - I think because of Sh and crossing the state lines.
If there are any anons left from back then, hopefully they remember & can confirm this too.
This is what he wants. He wants the attention. Even if it’s just going “blegh, Onision is being retarded again.” He wants that. He wants to create a stir, because that’s the only way he can garner attention at this point. He has nothing left.
I personally think we should ignore his polls, and obvious bait. The only thing that might be of interest is if he is taking pokes/discussing the situation. Otherwise, he’s worthless. And even with him talking about it, he’s still worthless. But it’s more discussion worthy
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I hope its a spergout about Hansen and Shiloh. Any kind PatronAnons know if its worthy of an mirror?
Doubtful. More of his lure more $10 tier paypigs with clickbait title scam. "I was triggered
by her lies, or something completely unrelated.
I hope footface watched the Shiloh stream. It would help her reflect on how much of a waste of space Greg has been.
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I never thought Greg would allow it to dip below 2M. Has he run out of money to buy fake subs?
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Click bait per usual. He complains about people making fun of a '12 year old' like he's never made fun of the bodies of preteens/teenagers.
" She didn't want to lure in those teenage girls for sexual abuse for herself. Admiration, perhaps, but she's not the kiddy fiddler here."
Are you forgetting that she went after underage people and sent ludes and nudes to underage Sarah and Regina? She also fought over Sarah's virginity, was having phone and text sex with Sarah when she was underage and had sex with her.
I think that Greg has done a lot of heinous shit, but he's also had a longer time to rack up victims
and do all that shit. He's worse, absolutely, because he's done more. But give Lainey time.
Also, I Lainey offered Sarah up on a platter to Greg for boobs so she can have top surgery.
I agree with the people saying that Lainey should leave for the kids if for no one else. Real parents would do anything to protect their children. She not only allows them to be in this situation, but she also allows him to be abusive
(eg not talking to Chloey)
She wanted to get a girlfriend for Greg. She said so herself during the Billie-era, he was the driving force behind her 'exploring her sexuality' - despite her very quickly realising she didn't want to, and was really very uncomfortable doing anything beyond kissing with Billie.
She did send porn pictures to kids, for validation because she knew those kids thought she was attractive - because she is highly insecure, harmful, and selfish… but not because she wanted to actually sleep with them for herself. She did receive the pictures too, but I would bet not for herself considering everything else. She did offer up Sarah's boobs for Greg. For. Greg. I don't doubt she was eventually convinced into a threesome, for Greg (after almost losing him because she refused to have any sexual contact with Billie, he almost ran off with Billie over that).
Even in the Sarah situation, the most recent one, Lainey wasn't into it when it got sexual. Greg was. Lainey went along with it whilst complaining and sulking (again, just as with Billie), which is what eventually lead to Greg going behind Laineys back with Sarah. It was Greg forcing sexual intimacy between them all, and Lainey allowing it to happen for Greg, which caused the breakdown of whatever slithers of real 'friendship' could have been between Lainey and Sarah.
Yes, she did those things, but not because she was attracted to them for herself. Anything beyond looking for admiration and validation online from kids (in a disgusting illegal way, of course) was because Greg wanted it. She is not attracted to women at all. I thought that much really was super obvious.
I genuinely do not think Lainey would be grooming young teenage girls at all without Greg behind it. I am 99.9% sure of that one. Cus she doesn't want any of it - she just wants to please and impress Greg, and earn some warped kind of affection from him.
I bet you anything the fuck, marry, cuddle poll is bait for people to finish the rest of the phrase, KILL. That way he can try to say Chris Hansen and Shi sent people his way to tell him to kill himself.
Owowo I didn't send my fans after Shiloh, but yours are coming for me, blah hypocrites blah journalistic integrity blah
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He also recently tweeted that saying kys gets you banned so it seems like bait.
It isn’t excusing the damage she’s done or the fact that she’s still an active threat to others because she’s so willing to appease Greg but this hits the nail on the head I think.>>727022
I think he’s just making a joke out of bad things he’s done some more just like with the grooming stuff. He made jokes about cuddling when cuddlegate 1.0 happened and now is making jokes about not being greasy because he’s a “groomer”. He clearly thinks everything he’s done is a joke and doesn’t take any of it seriously and is rubbing his transgressions in peoples faces as a joke. >>726968
Does she have a hickey on her face in this? Thanks for the mirror byw.
This thought process worked when she wasnt actively making minors stroke her ego? She acts out on her own without Greg even needing to sneeze in her direction anymore because shes gotten used to using kids the same way she was used and no amount of mental gymnastics will ever explain half the shit she has done the past year.
Shes gotten a whole grooming life of her own now and anybody who wants to sit and write articles on how its always greg who is the driving force is the reason she always defends herself when Greg gets shat on yet NEVER
leaves. Just because her end goal isnt to fuck the kiddies doesnt mean she isnt making her moves to establish grossly personal relationships with tweens and teens. She fucks her husband right beside her kids, its obvious she only cares about validation.
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>>726886>I just realized… When Gurg emailed Chris about how he was still mad that Sh got pregnant with another man's babby, that was his fucking pregnancy fetish talking.
No mention of anything else she talked about.. All he cares about is getting off.
Also, bringing that baby up only in terms of 'being a cheater' when it fucking DIED from SIDS is a shitty, shitty thing to do. He'd know full well from lurking her social media how devastating that was for her, especially after the traumatic miscarriage of the 1st baby caused by his abuse & neglect. Most people wouldn't use a dead baby as fucking emotional weapon but Greg has proven time and again what a heartless sociopath he is.
Taylor doesn't deserve excuses anymore. I use to have sympathy for her thinking she's scared of Greg and repercussions. But she's still a lot more freedom and means than most. She can easily fuck off out of Greg's and I'm sure he wouldn't put up much of a fight if she bailed.
Taylor is egotistical too. Her lastest video is another embarrassing montage of mid 20 year old loser with far too much confidence considering what a dick they are. She's still accepting patrons and donations and fulfilling whatever gay perks she has with her top patrons. The way Greg always uses her as a shield and the fact she only interacts with people who are licking her ass she has a skewed perception of herself and is more annoyed she doesn't have hundreds of people saying POOR KAI UWU.
She's an attention seeking mess who neglects her children's welfare for validation from anyone supplying it. If only she found her kids fulfilling she'd maybe have a bit of pride and get them the fuck out of Washington. Maybe she needs her son to grow up thinking she's sexy too. Who knows. She's a fucking cunt
Why does he insist of pretending he loves Kai so so much? Virtually EVERYONE who has been in that house say he verbally abuses her all day long & treats her like shit.I guess he has to periodically love bomb his little meat shield or he'll have to find another low intelligence woman to lure teenage women with.
No one is buying it dude. If a hot tiny woman wanted your peen, you'd drop her like a lunch tray in a cafeteria.
During one of his streams he mentioned in passing how everyone was trying to help Kai get away from him before and now they're saying horrible things about her. He doesnt understand how it could flip like this. He trailed off his thought and moved on, but he genuinely seemed depressed about it.
I think he hates that he can no longer use the "if you like Lainey you have to like me, Im her husband and you wouldnt want to hate someone that Lainey loves." and "You all agree that Lainey is a great person, how could a great person be with a monster for so long, I must be okay because Lainey is with me"
Lainey was his touchstone to prove to people that hes not a disgusting human being. Now all the public sees is two predators scheming on how to fuck up another teens life.
It might also be a way for him to look like the good guy when there are so few things right now that make him look good. He’s supportive of his trans husband and the internet is evil and wrong. Maybe trying to suggest they’re wrong about everything (even the grooming/abuse allegations). >>727049
Someone on twitter had a clip of a video he made recently where he was defending Lainey and says his old line of “people hate me and that’s fine but don’t hate perfect kai because you can ask most anyone…” and trails off as his brain catches up and realizes there is a growing awareness that Lainey isn’t supported anymore because of the stuff she’s done and the stuff she’s allowed to happen. It’s a great clip and I think you’re right that she’s not as good as a lure as she’d to be.
I do think he’s going to abandon using her as bait as much and just get another “cameraman” and oppose daisy now that person is his girlfriend.
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My God I've been gone for a week and this shit comes out. Christ he's even more of a monster than anyone thought. Sh stream was heart breaking and shows he was even more abusive
then even Sarah indicated.
With that said I'll ask this. Where can we draw the line between "tinfoiling" and legitimate speculation? Some have said that we shouldn't put ANYTHING past foot and gregma. Considering the what has already come out, what kind of vile shit would Billie or Regina have to share.
Either a hickey or a bruise.>>727041>>727042
Shut the fuck up, pedonision.>>727051
He's the living embodiment of that wheel that Jaclyn made about him.
Different anon here.
I really don’t agree that Taylor is those things.
Taylor started hating herself that badly because of Greg’s abuse, that she created a new identity. But with time she will hate that one too. It doesn’t take long for Greg to work his magic.
She is co-dependant.
She believes she can help Greg when he is clearly beyond help.
She’s giving up and starting to use Greg’s own manipulation tactics against him.
If you see in their last podcast together, he was annoying her and she interrupted him and said “look at that squirrel outside, it’s so fat”.
I do believe it was a way to try to make him self conscious considering everyone calls him fat now.
I was proud when she did it.
She’s clearly over his shit, she no longer has Rose coloured goggles on, and she’s becoming more independent.
She doesn’t have many choices sadly.
Being a full time mum to two kids, she can’t really go out and work when she’s primary care giver and who the hell would trust Greg with the kids? The cost of babysitting would likely make it barely worthwhile to work.
Right now, she’s kinda stuck living off $600 a month patreon bucks, and at least the house is owned outright so there’s no rent to pay.
She’s not going to move back with her parents with two kids.
They’ve probably offered, but most of us wouldn’t dare moving back in with our parents after getting a taste of freedom and independence, let alone with kids, when she can just suck it up and stay with Greg and know she has that freedom and independence.
Her hands are kinda tied until both kids are in school.
I don’t hate Taylor.
She doesn’t know anything else. She was thrust into that toxic
relationship at a young age and everyone finds it difficult to let go of their first love, especially when children are involved.
I just wish he would break up with her, because only then this terrible cycle would be broken. But he won’t. He wants his free slave at home and to look good in the public’s eyes.
I’m not going to turn on Taylor for not leaving Greg. I’m going to continue to support her and root for her.
Greg turned her into that person, she in all honestly, is probably trapped in her teenage years herself considering that’s when Greg swooped in like a cradle snatcher and took away her young and carefree years and abused the absolute shit out of her.
I honestly just wish I could give her a hug, but she doesn’t need hugs right now from strangers. That ain’t going to help shit. But with everyone hating her, breaking her self esteem even more, she’s never going to leave. Why would she if she believes the world hates her and no one will ever date her again? She will settle and being stuck with Greg forever.
And even if she does, I will still support her.
I know what it’s like to be trapped in a toxic
relationship because you believe you’re helping the person, or that the person can’t sjevive without you. It’s a tough weight to carry. It’s a shame that it comes at the cost of everyone hating her.
Thank you for coming to my Ted talk.
This definitely sounds like sperging but I think there's one thing we can gleam from this.
It'd be pretty fucking satisfying if she really IS starting to neg him back. That'd lead to some interesting milk and twitter sperges.
People on the internet have been supporting her for years, offering her places to stay, suggesting authorities to contact, trying to help her break free from Gurgles. To say she doesn't have a support system is bullshit - there has been literally THOUSANDS of people promising that she won't ever be alone and without support if she dumps Greg. Her family has tried to help, her friends have tried to help, she has dreamed about running away with whatever teenager she had managed to train to be her ego booster. She's not trapped, she never has been. There was a turning point where she regognized that her marriage is abusive
af, yet chose to stay. She has had so much constant support, so many gentle hands offering to help her and her kids until she could stand on her own. So much tough love, sweet love, worry and empathy, all poured towards her for nothing. Lainey decided to lay in the fire. Now she burns.
Yes, she's a victim
of a sick man who took advantage of a naive fangirl who had no experience in real life adult relationships. Yes, he has pretty much destroyed her. But she has had so many opportunities to leave and rebuild her life that her choosing to stay over and over again shows that she has become the saddest result of terrible abuse: an abuser herself. She won't leave because she's the extension of Greg now.
Lainey: please leave him, get the kids somewhere safe and GO. GET. REAL. HELP. You're way past your last warning, but the door is not locked and you aren't burned to complete ashes yet like Greg is.
Sage for blogposting, non-contribution etc
Hmmm, is there a reason that he added snippets from his last patron stream into a video about "dumb girls"? Hmmm, I wonder
It looks like an inflamed zit.
Regarding the recent discussion about being lenient towards Lainey, I'd personally be interested in what she had to say - if she ever left Greg. Yes, she's come across as an entitled brat and she's been incredibly smug to all the people who tried to warn her about Greg. Yes, she's been lying about a bazillion things and is an enabler. And yes, she definitely is a horrible mother and overall horrible person who has not only neglected her children but also abused young girls, and that is something that will stick to her for the rest of her sad and miserable life and she might never be able to make up for it.
But I would listen to her side of the story.
It's been documented many times now how controlling Greg is. He had Shiloh in shambles, everyone, including the police, thought she was the crazy one and it took her ten years to tell her side. We never hear Lainey's side of anything, it's always Greg who speaks for her. He's not smart but he's smart enough not to film any breakdowns and panic attacks anymore and put them online.
Then again I totally understand and agree when people who point out that Lainey is treated way better then any other girl and does this BS on her own volition; it's kind of supported by the fact that neither Madison nor Sarah or any of the others involved have revealed anything about Lainey being severely abused. Sarah is probably able to fill in a lot of blanks but it's up to her, and only her, to do so or not. And right now she has other things to deal with.>>727072
People have been saying this for quite some time now: She's become more independent, she's standing up against him. Still she stays with him for whatever reason.
I don't really agree with you on a lot of aspects but I see your point. And as long as she's with Greg, she's an enabler and will keep grooming teens for him and I'm never going to support that.
>Being a full time mum to two kids, she can’t really go out and work when she’s primary care giver
I agree on that one with you but as you pointed out, she has a patreon and since the people there hate Greg, they might actually be able to support Lainey financially. Moving back to her parents at that age is a bummer but would help her get up on her own two feet eventually, she would just have to suck it up and struggle through.
This is kind of funny. There is literally not one
person Taylor has ever known during the course of her marriage to Greg whom she has not shat on in order to stay with Greg, and that includes her own kids.
She'd shit on you too, in a heartbeat, probably while you were trying to give her your ~uwu hug.~
Just wanted to post this aswell.
Anyone know what this means?
I don't think she was faking it either, anon.
Besides what other anons have said, it's more humiliating to admit that's actual footage of her having an episode than to say her crazy husband made her lie for youtube views/ she lied for attention. The latter is more excusable anyway, she was so young and in an abusive
relationship. Kids act out.
No clue, but they talk about Chris Hansen on their Facebook. They seem like a super small company, though?
They build websites so maybe they plan to upload the data from the laptop onto one. Who really knows.
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Is anyone else so over super long posts defending uwu Taylor, the biggest victim
only corrupted thanks to Greg uwu? I've counted at least 3 from today.
When all of this first broke, specifically when Skye and Shiloh revealed the gross 3 hour hentai fap sessions and that he demanded sex with Shiloh 8 times a day, it really put into focus how ridiculously hyper sexual that disgusting predator is. It makes perfect fucking sense. His hyper fixation of all things sexual is never far away from any of the many controversies he's created. The big deal he made about not changing Madison's baby's diaper was as a result of him assigning sexuality to a literal infant, for example. The way he accepted and rated photos of underaged girls is another example. I believe his obsession with Eugenia stemmed from the way he sexually idealized her body, apparent submissive nature, and mental health issues.
In the old days, Greg would be forcibly castrated as someone such as he cannot live properly in society. Their brains just don't operate in a way that makes that possible without eliminating their need for "getting their baby carrots wet," so to speak.
After this all broke, I began counting any sexual reference made in any of his videos. I recall one video having something like nine references to sex, genitals, masterbaition, etc. I believe the video was like 10-20ish minutes long? It's so sickening.
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Yeah it is very tiresome that some Anons, probably Taylor's Patrons, are coming here to lionize and talk about how uwu fragile and what a victim
she is when all is said and done– and more or less how her also being Greg's victim
is an excuse for her actions, uwu. It's pretty gross too, given what we now know about her actions in the last few years.
This is crazy. I went to high school with Greg (I’m a year younger and was a grade under him). I had heard he was pretty big on Youtube, but it was not until two weeks ago that I even really watched a video of his. I sporadically talk with a woman who went to our school on Facebook (I wasn’t close friends with her, and she definitely wasn’t friends with Greg, just knew him from school), and she sent me a message and link about Chris Hanson. That definitely caught my attention. Jesus Christ. She’s been keeping up with the going ons of the past few years, and sent me a link to this forum. I’m horrified reading this thread and the details of him and his spouse, especially since I have to children of my own, ages five and two. I wish there was something I could do. I wanted to share my experience “knowing” Greg. I keep seeing him referred to as Greg/James/Jimmy Jackson, but that was NOT his name in high school, it was Greg or Gregory Daniels. Where did Jackson come from?? He has NOT changed at all, that is apparent.
Greg was considered strange in high school, and had a little group he would sit with. I started dating one of the guys who was in the ‘group’, and about a month into our relationship Greg sent me an IM on AIM saying that he was cheating on me. It devastated me (high school love, everything seems worse than it is). Boyfriend denied it, but I broke up with him. I was a virgin at the time and this guy was my first kiss. Greg coached me through the breakup, said he would be there for me, and was always IM’ing me. The weird thing is, it wasn’t like we were friends in school, he really wouldn’t even look at me. I’d say ‘hi’ to him in the cafeteria or try to talk to him after final period since our lockers were almost diagonally apart, on opposite sides, and it was SO awkward and strange. I’d get nothing from him. But the second I would sign onto AIM he would message me almost instantaneously. I remember him saying he had enabled an extra notification alert/chime for when I signed on and said he chose the “cow mooing sound because I was so cute and cuddly”. I don’t know why I remember that specific detail.
Reading up on how he behaves and interacts with women now is IDENTICAL to how he behaved in high school with me. Just substitute text for instant messages. Everything was sexual. He would ask me questions about why I was a virgin, how it felt when I kissed (boyfriend’s name), if I felt any excitement. Deeply personal questions. I remember being up late on my parent’s computer one night, it must have been a weekend, and he started with the sex stuff. I told him I wasn’t ready to have sex (Catholic guilt), and he said there must be something more, that it wasn’t normal for a girl my age to not want to have sex, especially since I was so mature, and he straight up asked me if I had been sexually abused. I hadn’t, but I remember feeling very weird he asked me that and I told him that much. He said it wasn’t a big deal and I’d feel better if I was open to someone about it if I had, and that most people were sexually abused. That’s when he told me the about how he was sexually abused, and told the details which were disturbing (at that time no one had ever confided in me about sexual abuse, or abuse or any kind), like he wanted me to feel it was ok to tell him if I was. When I told him I had never been sexually abused and just wasn’t ready for intimacy, I remember him getting mad at me and saying he was so open with me had trusted me, and if I couldn’t be honest with him then we couldn’t be friends, and I was an awful person for betraying him. I don’t remember how the conversation was resolved, but he would still message me and once even suggested I try masturbating by laying in an empty bathtub, putting my legs up on the tub and turning on the water so it went onto my clitoris and into my vagina. Want to know how I remember that? Because I actually tried it. I had never had an orgasm before and wanted to try to have one. Suffice to say it did not work. It’s so gross to think about.
It’s very odd to read that he has not progressed since high school. I wonder if something traumatic happened to him at that age that has caused him to be mentally stunted. And these photos- my god. He’s aging rapidly, looks like a 40 year old dad, yet dresses in clothes from the juniors section. He was made fun of in high school, bullied very badly (he was the type of person who craved attention, and since he had no traits or talents that got him positive attention, it seemed like he thrived from the negative attention. People would say he was most likely to be a school sh**ter, and he tried to play the part with the clothes. I remember a coat he had vividly, and how he always smelled really, really musty).
As I’m writing this I just had another memory of one of our AIM conversations where he asked me if I knew there were two types of penises, circumcised and uncircumcised, and he told me that I shouldn’t even consider getting involved with guys who were circumcised, since uncirc’ed guys could give more pleasure (or something along those lines). I was very, very inexperienced and naive in high school.
I wish I could remember more, it was SO long ago. I had a LiveJournal (it was a blogging website), and I wrote an entry about a strange convo we had online. I would love to be able to access that because I can’t remember what the contents of the conversation was, but it was strange enough I blogged about it and copied and pasted the AIM convo. Looking back, I wonder if my high school BF truly did cheat on me, or if it was just creepo Greg trying to break us up to be the hero.
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Yeah, I don't think so. Post any kind of proof you went to the same school first.>>727112>Is anyone else so over super long posts defending uwu Taylor
Yes, very much so. It seems like it's only one or two anons doing it, but it's very tiring.
Would love to see any proof you may have to verify your posts. Yearbook photos, the LJ entry etc
Everything you’ve mentioned fits with what we know of his history, and his awareness of his own sexual abuse is an interesting (if sadly unsurprising) new detail. Of course he no doubt has it repressed/rationalized away to protect his pathologically fragile ego.
NAYRT but he's the biologist assigned to Greg's case. They've given Greg an extra week, that's very generous.
>“cow mooing sound because I was so cute and cuddly”
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i wonder what he's on about… he is also going live in patreon as all this is happening lol
Gotta wonder if he's seriously considering suicide after all this coming out
Can't say I'd feel bad if he went through with it though.
I know people don’t like that this person was defending Taylor, and I had the same point of view. But the second I read the bit about also having been in a toxic
relationship, and being there,it brought back my own experience.
I agree. Taylor (I refuse to call her Lainey or Kai, identities created through abuse) is not a predator in the way Greg/James/whatever is. She did not derive sexual pleasure from sending nudes but was looking for validation. She was and is hurt/gaslit/love-bombed and abused by Greg verbally nd otherwise, and does not deserve to be put down even more. What’s horrible place she’s in and it’s Greg’s fault. Please consider. Btw I’m not Greg or whatever other people will say, check my IP. I’m someone who was there in the deep end. People don’t realise there are many, many levels to toxic
relationships. I was in the sort of one where I got punched in the face.
nobody cares about your ~toxic
relationship~. Being abused doesn't give you the go ahead to abuse anybody else and Taylor HAS abused other people. As other anons have already said, she's had ample opportunities to get help for herself and her children and she chose Greg every time. There's no excuse for sending nude photos to minors and there's no excuse for grooming minors.
Taylor is just as bad as Greg, probably even worse actually since she's the one who lures the girls in
You keep going back to your blog posting ass ways as if it gives you authority on the situation. It doesn't. Why are you so eager to talk about your uwu abusive
relationship on fucking lolcow of all places? Nobody is interested in giving you ass pats.>>727116
Holy shit, I believe you 1,000% Anon and maybe that makes me gullable. But I wanna hear MOAR.
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Many of us have experienced toxic
relationships, and they did not turn us into child groomers. I agree that Greg warped her, but she should still be held accountable for what she did.
Taylor doesn’t deserve sympathy or for us to be any easier on her just because Greg treats her like shit. She lost that when she started actively being sexual towards a 15 year old child who trusted her completely. Nothing was stopping her from finding an adult human tissue, but she chose to pursue a child and then offer that child up to her abusive
husband. She chose to send nudes, and nudes sent for pleasure or validation are still nudes. If she wanted positive attention so bad, she could’ve found an adult on tinder or elsewhere. She chose not to.
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Grepedo is all but losing it. This is obviously him desperately trying to find any trace of narc fuel to cling to in these oh so trying times.
Judging by how not-at-all-subtle (to say the least) he's being about it, I'd say we're about to see a narc rage sperg out of the most epic proportion. I guess all of this with Hansen and now the County happening at once is truly getting to the Waterhead.
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Where is the stream where he's hostile to Tamara? I don't see it on his many autistic channels. I want to mirror it.
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Skye met Anus when they were both in high school, they were both young and impressionable, and he had yet to leave a trail of videos and evidence on YouTube. She had little idea of what she was getting into.
Shiloh didn’t idolize him as a fan as much, as she was on the road to bigger fame herself; she wasn’t star struck.
Adrienne similarly didn’t idolize him or look up to him, and as someone his age (mid 20s) she had some awareness and self respect, saw through his bullshit, and they didn’t even last a month.
Billie might have idolized him a bit, but she’d already cozied up to older YouTubers (Tyler, her BF before the anuses, Social repose, etc). She probably did know about some of his shit, but she was kinda famewhoring at the time, but she saw something in the gargoyle. She did, however, have enough self respect to leave eventually, after 2 years of on and off.
Lainey has no excuse. She was star struck, she did idolize him, she was an obsessive fan who 100% knew about Skye, Shiloh, Adrienne, and his abusive
, manipulative behavior. When she had a friend try and warn her after reading A’s letter and seeing Sh’s videos of her breaking down, Lainey just scoffed and said “he NEVER does any of that with me, he carries me to bed for fuck’s sake.” She knew what she was getting into. Even when the cracks started to show, she chose to stay. She has no excuse.
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Found this posted elsewhere. I don't know if this code is single use or not but if you want to snoop his patreon without actually funding him here's your chance.
Skye and Billie (especially Billie) should probably have gone before Luxy, but hopefully they all get a chance to talk about their abuse and manipulation from Greg and Taylor.>>727221
KEK! He's trying to convince people into giving him attention and money by giving them coupons? What a pathetic bastard.
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>>727080>neither Madison nor Sarah or any of the others involved have revealed anything about Lainey being severely abused
I think Sarah was privy to more than anyone else who'd visited that house, except for maybe Serena? I imagine Sarah has some stories to tell. I'm for whatever would most benefit them and not Shreg. How much they choose to reveal publicly is up to them.
I know a lot of anons probably won't believe you because of your lack of evidence or screencaps that confirm you knew him personally, but honestly this sounds like it could very well be true because of your oddly specific details.
If it really is true, I'm really sorry you went through that anon. What a fucking creep.
Hope you can find your old livejournal or school year book so that we have solid confirmation if this is true or not.
Unfortunately, we don't have much choice but to be a bit skeptical because people have lied about this kind of thing on here for attention in the past.
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searched for the medium rare video on the onision forums and found this old onion video from 2011 - "Drama At The Forums" - reupload: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1goX-2i8v8gaAH-YDQjrUt6-DDdkjUWiq
you can hear Shiloh in the background.
with Shiloh coming out with her story, and after listening to her talk with Chris Hansen, this is pretty chilling to listen to
Shiloh and Billie have enough in common that it’s no wonder he obsessed (obsesses still, honestly) over them both. At 17 and 18, they’re the age he likes, they were both somewhat known, Shiloh in the music scene, Billie on YouTube and Instagram, had an alternative style, quirky, and spirited. He cheated on his first wife with Shiloh and his second wife with Billie. They both came and went multiple times within the couple years they were with him. Billie got more support than Shiloh did, but by then his shell was cracking more and more. I’m convinced they’re the only ones he came close to loving, along with Alicia, because of the challenge. He loves to feel like he won when he gets them and gets to trap them in his house, isolated, defeminized, submissive, and miserable. Skye and especially Lainey posed few challenges other than being in the way of his lust for younger, more interesting girls. Skye of course was a catch, Lainey is less interesting than cement drying.
As recently as billiegate, she was allowed only one family visit a year. He's only allowed more recently on account of their children. And her father is still banned from visiting them.
And yes, Greg only ever allows contact with very young women. Never men, no matter their age. Do you really think she wouldn't rather pour her soul out to a handsome guy around her age if she wasn't afraid to do so?
Make no mistake, all human contact Taylor has are dictated by Greg. She's neither a lesbian nor a pedo.
She recoiled from that kiss with Billie, and her crushes were on adult male "stars" in music and on YouTube.
You're right, she's not a lesbian. But she is a pedo. Her actions are what makes her one, even if her life is dictated by Greg.
Just because he has "reasons" to let her see her family doesn't mean anything. She still does it. She has had many chances to leave and/or be in contact with people when she's not around him.
She identified as bi long before. When has this even turned into "is she a lesbian, no she isn't". As for her not being a pedo - it's enough she exchanged nudes with a minor. It really doesn't matter if anyone thinks she's a pedo or not. It doesn't change anything in a legal or a moral sense.
There is so much derailing itt with a) I like her/feel sorry for her b) I don't, like a game of ping pong. One or two anons are also psych fagging to the extent where it feels like they're her twin and know exactly how she's feeling and are typing directly from the swamp house.
Logic? If her actions make her a pedo, they make her a lesbian. Sarah is female…
Anon above you is right.
She's neither lesbian nor a pedo, but is a predator. And predators are all about POWER, nothing to do with sexuality or enjoyment.
She's been a victim
of a predator for years, stripped of her power and constantly dominated. She's still participating in his power-play. She's trying to gain her power back by taking it from new victims
She's not a shithead for being a lesbian paedophile. She's not a shithead for not leaving her abuser earlier, no matter how many kids they have. She's a shithead for choosing deal with the abuse by perpetuating it.
I'll admit to being one of the ones arguing with the Complainey psych defenders. It's tiresome, pointless, and should really let the mods handle it.
At the end of the day, she sent nudes to a child and that can land her in prison. They also had sex in front of their children which can make them lose their kids. Greg would be overjoyed if that happened.
Hi, I wrote earlier about my “friendship” with Onision, going to high school with him. I saw some replies saying I was making it up? I’m not sure even sure how to react to that. I’m a mom in my 30’s. Why would someone go to that length, that detail to write a fake story. Do people on this website do that? I’m not sure what you want for proof? I don’t feel comfortable posting my name, but if there is a way I can privately verify with the mods like on Reddit, please let me know how to contact as long as it stays in confidence. My LinkedIn has my high school info, or maybe a picture of my diploma? I doubt this information is known- We went to Lakes High School, which is one of the two schools in the Lakewood District. Before his ex-wife who also went to our school, he was dating someone else who’s last name is Dennis. I wasn’t friends with her in high school, but am currently friends with her on Facebook. I am back-reading posts and it seems like people are in contact with his ex wife Skye A., who was also a classmate. Verify his exes last name with Skye, I wouldn’t guess that is something publicly known but she would know it for sure.
Pretty much. It's an ego defense mechanism. If she overpowers someone the way she was overpowered, she's not that powerless anymore…>>727311
Understanding =/= approval.
Common mistake. Hard to learn.
You can seek to understand what motivated someone to do something without approving the actions they made as a result of those reasons.
Do you have a yearbook? You could take a photo of Greg's yearbook photo with a piece of paper with the date and post that. That way you wont be exposing your identity.
People do lie on the internet and it has happened here before. I personally believe you though. Just something about your story makes sense but for others they may need more proof. It'd be an interesting look into his early life and behavior that could be archived as well.
there you go
Wow he really uploaded this to make Shiloh look crazy and make himself look 'calm and rational.'
What a psycho
"this sandwich you made me, it tastes like shit. i hate you. every single fiber of my being sitting here right now, hates you. i hate you. i hate every single thing about you. i hate your face, i hate your fucking stupid personality, i hate your persona, i hate your videos, i hate your house, i hate our house, i hate myself. i'm miserable. i'm miserable with you. you make my life miserable. you make my life a living hell. i hate you. how many times, do i need to say, that i hate you, for you to fucking get it."
very well spoken, Sh. 10/10. good to know his sandwich skills have not improved in the slightest over the years. nice find, anon.
Shiloh established in the Hansen stream that apart from his editing computer room which was decked out in the cool stuff he liked, the rest of the house was barren with just greenscreens and cameras everywhere. She said the kitchen was a mess and a disaster. I bet when he was with Skye, she did all the cooking and cleaning. He probably can't cook 2 minute noodles to save his life.
Shiloh probably went from having a loving home with nice meals to his frat boy dorm room looking hell hole where his idea of dinner is poorly cooked toasted sandwiches.
I love her roasting him in that video.
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found this mouthbreathing retard on insta, is it greg?
>>727142>If you die you don't have to put up with people anymore
Says the guy no one wants to deal with anymore.
In between all of his deluded "I am a god worship me" insane ramblings he must've forgotten he's actually a mere mortal - a person who's totally vacant inside, but a person nonetheless.
I've always wondered about something Greg's said repeatedly over the years, that he has little to no memory before the age of 11.
Since he's been outed as a pathological liar (lying to and manipulating many girls who've proven this with receipts), you can only take anything he says with a grain of salt. While it might be true, there's never been any proof to back it up, that and he constantly contradicts himself.
Please share receipts if you can.
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Chapter 3 is out
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Well, when you have shit like this posted>Logic? If her actions make her a pedo, they make her a lesbian. Sarah is female…
It's like…I don't know what kind of a reality these anons are living in where that statement even makes any kind of a logical sense. I have a feeling that it's the same "Can I ask a question" person who was clogging up the thread the day before. It's leading nowhere and hopefully farmhands will provide.
>>727072>with everyone hating her, breaking her self esteem even more, she’s never going to leave.
A moot point. She made zero attempts to leave back when she had more than enough support from all kinds of people. Maybe had she not sent NUDES TO MINORS, the public would be a lot nicer to her now.
I wouldn't call sharing a house with Greg "a taste of freedom and independence", especially when he has access to all her sm, forces her to make vids when she doesn't want to, etc. You're entitled to your opinion, but truly no one would be throwing shade at her if 1) she wasn't a pedo like her husband and 2) she didn't have little kids at home that she barely cares for. Fucking with your 2 year old sleeping on the same bed or your 6 year old leaning up against it watching his ipad, bringing in an endless parade of young girls month after month or year after year, that doesn't scream good parenting. And now Greg's doing this damage control bullshit trying to make it sound like his home and marriage is anything but a fucking dumpster fire.
No one in their right goddamn mind would stay with Greg after everything he's done and everything that's come out about him. Taylor has failed as a mother. Period.
She's keeping her children in that dysfunctional environment out of laziness, selfishness, and pride. She's put HERSELF before her children, there's no arguing that. That's who she is.
>>727339> I bet when he was with Skye, she did all the cooking and cleaning.
No wonder he didn’t look like shit in the beginning.>>727361
So is Skye, she was born on the 29th
When Taylor would do her live streams she would bitch about tauruses. She knows Onion has a type kek. >>727359
Taylor is most likely a straight girl that will gender bend for attention and kiss girls for her husbands approval. I don't want to speculate what this bitch is like in threesomes especially when we know her kids are about, maybe Onion could write a chapter about it in his book. (Has he ever wrote about Taylor in any sense in his book or does she not inspire his fantasies lol?)
She's immature and retarded af in a lot of ways, so maybe she connects more with teens? She's sent nudes/lewds to lots of teen girls and had phone sex with teenage sarah. Unless Taylor wants to come out and say Greg was beside her and encouraging her to engage she's been a willing participant in grooming underage girls with the end goal of having them come into the home and get her husband off sexually and help Taylor keep on top of the domestic tasks. Taylor is essentially gay for pay.
Greg is a monster. All of the girls coming out with their stories on him are victims
of this monster.
Now when you face cases like with Shiloh or Lainey who had money and/or a good support system and still chose to stay with him no matter what, they are issues themselves. Codependent and toxic
enablers. In some aspects, Shiloh IS crazy, and that's probably why she is a good singer/performer. They still don't deserve any of this, but it's very different from a situation involving someone like Sarah who comes from an bad home, was groomed since she was child and still chose to leave by herself at some point.
>>727376>>727072>with everyone hating her, breaking her self esteem even more, she’s never going to leave.
Adding to that, why would Lainey now start basing her actions on what people on the internet say? She never has. She should develop a realistic view on her relationship and leave for her own and her children's sake and well being. If she's so caught up in what the internet say all of a sudden, it's time for her to shut down all sm.>>727406
That was my exact impression a well. Him being quiet when Shiloh was talking seemed off, especially now, after having read his ""article"" where he told a patron in their own house to shut up. I'm positive he would have told Shiloh the same and would have gotten her out of the room when he wanted to film. It's blatant manipulation.
I believe you, Anon! Please don't get discouraged, we're not exactly a single collective voice here. One anon being a bit hostile with their opinion does not represent the sentiment of the entire forum. I'd personally love to know any and all stories you can share with us.
Also, when it comes to Lainey, she's made the nature of her character readily available for years and years now. Specifically, you can get a sense of who she is based on the streams she's done on YouNow, especially the ones where she's upset. She. Is. Not. A. Good. Person. Greg didn't corrupt her, he may have brought out the worst in her. But he didn't create her. She was capable of such behavior long before Greg waddled into her life. She is a predator. In fact, I'd wager that she could honestly be more dangerous than Greg.
I mean, at least with Greg you know he's a fucking monster. His intellect is unimpressive, to say the least. He's so transparent in his attempts at manipulation even after 34 years of practice. He's messy, impulsive and can't keep fucking quiet. I believe whatever genetic defect/chromosomal issue/brain damage he's got affects the part of the brain responsible for impulse control. It's been said so many times, Greg is a danger to young women and girls who lack the life experience and brain development to quickly identify his monstrous ass ways. At least that's what we've observed so far. That's not to say that he would definitely never endanger anyone else who's not a young girl. He does have a certain Chris Benoit/school shooter vibe to him…
Lainey is dangerous in a more subtle way. It's harder to identify, especially when you're in the thick of it. She has this way about her that really draws young women/girls in. Sarah even said she's never loved anyone like she loved Lainey. It's weird because to me, Lainey seems completely uninteresting, uninspiring. Unattractive. But she lures these girls in and knows exactly how to manipulate their emotions. Way, way more effectively than her mongoloid husband. Her tactics are so different than his, especially her use of ghosting and making herself unavailable and apathetic. I feel like every girl they've talked to, aside from Billie, wanted Lainey and not Greg. She's just better at being a predator. I could go on, but I don't wanna tinfoil too much.
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>Watching that, Shiloh's audio doesn't make sense in regards to what's happening. Is it possible that he recorded her in a seperate argument, and then used it in that video to make her look bad?
I thought that initially, but watching it again, I actually think it IS real because of his distracted reactions. Let's face it too, he's a terrible actor and this looked pretty real.
I have a feeling they were fighting and having arguments probably about Greg being online too much or sniffing around on the forums, talking to other girls ect, Shiloh cracked the shits and called him out and he's tried to love bomb her and made her a sandwich, told her he needs to return to work
because he doesn't like confrontation especially when he's wrong. He probably stormed off to make a video about the forums and
Shiloh has basically been like 'no fuck that, let's talk about this' and Greg has just chosen to film the video anyway while she gets angry because he's not listening or answering her questions.
He almost does the same thing in the bald breakdown video except he goes all quiet and psycho, whereas in this one, still ignores her, but tries to act defeated like a victim
I bet he even said to her after 'you know I'm going to upload this with you abusing me in the background' and at that point, Shiloh was probably like so fucking what because she was used to being abused by his fan base around that time anyway.
She said on the Hansen stream that she copped abuse from them even when they were together and just bickering. I bet this is one of those instances she spoke of.
Just to add, the only thing that did make me think it was fake was when she said 'are you calling me fat?' but even then she could be trying to get him to respond.
I'm really not sure with this one. It would be interesting to hear from Shiloh. She might have not even known he posted his. Like she knew, but didn't watch it due to the title 'drama at the forums'.
She may have not realised she was even featured in it.
>>727450>I have a feeling they were fighting and having arguments probably about Greg being online too much or sniffing around on the forums, talking to other girls ect,
No you’re right, this happened right around the time the ladyflatass/rxbootyslayer drama happened. For those who aren’t well versed on the flake drama involving her. >>>/snow/667249
She was recently in the Hansen livechat calling Shiloh a beautiful girl in chat so she’s either trying to make amends or she was the one who told Greg Shiloh was speaking out against him.
Cyr is a wimp as evidenced by staying with dasha but either way, what was he supposed to do? If I remember him and Greg would fall out frequently. The blame shouldn’t be on any of the victims
or hangers on at this point anyway
errr i'm pretty sure this was a joke
shiloh is a good actress. a lot of their sketches where he "filmed her in the shower" or "shaved half of her head as a prank" people thought were real at first cause she is a convincing actress, but the "are u callin me fat?" thing outed it as a joke in the vid you linked
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Agreed. I'd hate like hell to defend Greg in any capacity but considering the context it's more than likely a """joke""" - Greg is talking about people going off and not being crazy with his 'crazy' wife ironically going off in the background.>>726968
You want to have a fucking spasm when anyone makes reference to your vagini and yet say shit like "I feel like such a man, being self-sufficient! I feel like a dude!" And its husband couldn't take ten minutes to help his twiggy-armed space prince thing move a heavy object?
That room is just sad and you can just tell they're not the type of people to sweep or dust.
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Can we update this collage? Skye had the same look Lainey currently has
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Are we on board?
I think at this point this is only giving him a day off to relax and "regroup". Too many things are happening for him to sperg out because he's being ignored and lacking narc supply. But he might sperg regardless, so whatever. Like >>727569
said we're here to watch anyway.
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Some people want to extend it for longer.
What I want the most is this cancerous lesion called Greg/James/Onision to pay for killing the most defenceless lifeform of all.
The humans he abused retributed. I bet he gave that dog he abused away because it finally bit him.
But those plants, that had no ability to defend themselves or retaliate. He'll pay for terminating their innocent peaceful lives like they were nothing.
Those living beings contributed so much to others. Created a habitat. Greg is a detriment to all living things he comes in contact with.
And he dared call them a pest?!
Fucking agreed. This is getting pathetic. No one cares about some twitterfaggy nobodies ignoring Grog or their psych analysis of Kai and it ruins the enjoyment of the milk.>>727601
Knowing that idiot, he most likely thinks that he isn't held accountable anymore because he changed his name. Just look at his logic about what he claims on his taxes and why. "It was in a video once!"
This is hilarious because despite the reason being that they think it will piss Anus off it just makes the antio community look like we are just a bunch of Onision addicts (which he likes to call us) who can’t go a day or two without mentioning him.
Jfc Twitter Is stupid
I'm still not clear on Shiloh's relationship before Greg. I thought she had at least one irl bf who was "verbally abusive
" to her before meeting Greg, and that she got advice from Greg on dealing with it? She told Chris the only bf she had before Greg was with someone online, then went on to say that this same person was schizophrenic? That's not possible to discern if your interactions are strictly virtual.
Also not clear on Lainey's past relationships either. We know the bf before Greg raped her. Was she in a bunch of toxic
relationships before or after that? Did she go directly from the guy who raped her, to Greg?
My point in bringing all this up is the girls Greg chooses (he's admitted this himself) have suffered some kind of abuse, so they're already conditioned when they meet him. As what happened with Shiloh, think they have a fairytale romance while in reality Greg is slowly dehumanizing them and eroding their self esteem and self worth, pretending he's such a great guy. At least Shiloh said she went to therapy, unlike mother of the year
Lainey who thinks everything's a-ok.
To the underdeveloped brain of a child, Onision's content is somewhat amusing. When the fallout happened with Shiloh I do remember a lot of people questioning whether or not it was real, how much was real vs how much was scripted. Greg has ALWAYS tried to purposely hide and obfuscate the truth while simultaneously calling himself "the most honest youtuber".
His deceit and manipulation are only successful with young, underdeveloped and weak minds, or with people who're as morally destitute as he is. People who lack critical thinking are also easy targets for him.
She's living in Onioneverland where you remain at the emotionally stunted age you entered at. >>727603
Thought you were gonna bring up Reptar for a second honestly.
I don't think ignoring most of his brain droppings is sweeping anything under the rug, per se. It's just focusing more on what the ladies are saying and less on Gronks insane, delusional sputterings, which I can support.
Not going to tell other people what to do of course but this point has been made many times and I think it bears repeating: >>726982>The only thing that might be of interest is if he is taking pokes/discussing the situation.
Even then, every vid he's made on the situation has been clickbait where he either rates memes or dresses in drag slagging off his exes. In the "articles" he's written he ignores all the evidence against him and Kai, delusionally whinging on about what victims
they are for being such trusting hearts uwu. There's never "milk" from him or Krainey. Just more of the same pathetic shrinking from reality, trying to make his and Kai's victims
into perpetrators, which no one with 2 brain cells will believe anyway.
Thanks for posting this. So is this >>727117
legit? It looks legit but how was it obtained?? We do know Shreg himself posts here. Very curious.
As of March 2019 he was still signing his name as Gregory Avaroe:https://pals.piercecountywa.gov/public/documentView?docSysId=1206540
And in the email from Nov. >>727117
he's also addressed as Greg. How is this possible when he's legally changed his name? By law, aren't you required to use your legal name on all official documents?
Lainey went directly from the guy who raped her to Greg. The guy commented on her YouTube videos, too, psychotically crying about it, saying that she literally dumped him for Greg. Billie has been through abuse as well, with the child sodomizer ex-bf, if anyone remembers that.
Pretty much all of his GF's have had some form of mental illness. He masquerades it as if he's a whiteknight with a savior complex (see: his book with James and Abby), when in reality, it's because he has a kink for "breaking" people and making them submit to him.
That's what predators do, go after what they perceive as vulnerable and weaker than themselves. I guess it goes to show what a bad judge of character Greg really is; he likes to twist that around every chance he gets to make himself the victim
, but that's just his pathology talking.
I don’t think it’s a problem per say. I just think they might be deserving of their own thread soon. There are definitely signs of cows in the making. Especially with Onision Unprivated and a few others who were encouraging people to contact Lainey’s parents. I should have capped when I could but I can’t find the tweets of the dms that back it up.
Just something to keep an eye on. Some of them have been playing with the poop for too long and egos are getting really big. I won’t clog this thread with it anymore.
It’s funny, I had to search for the information and gradually found more until I got to this point. I remember finding stevie’s blog on tumblr that had the letter and vowed to never watch his content again (this is all prior to what we know now) it just sickens me how there are still people paying him with their hard earned money for what? More terrible unseen content??? I’ll pass
Speaking of, if anyone has subscribed to his Patreon to get more information out of him, there are already people doing this, there have been for a while, you don’t need to give him your money.
Would somebody mind summarizing Taylors relationship before she met Greg? I've kept up with the threads but it's hard to get a grasp on the timeline, and what exactly happened. Farmers say she was raped but what's the story?
Also, Billie had a history of dating another pedophile? What?
TBF Cyr seems averse to confrontation as well. His current GF Dasha is basically the female Greg of the Internet & he seems stuck in an abusive
relationship of his own. Cyr also has some drama of his own (e.g cheated on at least 1 GF)& I assume at that the height of his fame Greg would have exaggerated wildly about every fuck up Cyr ever did & have set his followers after him as well if he challenged him too much. Getting out quietly when Greg discarded him for not voting for Hillary Clinton was probably a wise mov
I don't get it, like… these people actually respond to Gurgle's tweets and participate in his livestreams? They've really been doing this the whole time?
Why would anyone waste their time doing that? Do they not know how the internet works, and that any engagement (positive or negative) will boost someone's visibility? Y'all really need a group effort to restrain yourself from cowtipping and tweeting hate at someone for a day?
That's, ummm…. that's weird, you guys.
That anti-o twitter community is so fucking stupid. They engage so much with him, watch his videos and I even saw that OnisionUnprivated account post screenshots of them participating in his attention seeking polls yesterday.
Bet those people are also patrons.
It's really embarrassing.
She was with an abusive
guy called David in high school. They were kind of on-off I guess, he threatened suicide to get her back at some point, leaked her nudes. The first time they had sex she changed her mind but he went through with it anyways (which is horrible and rape, no contest).
She also was apparently kissing a lot of boys in HS, going through a friend group and breaking it.
B dated a guy once who committed suicide later and had a criminal record related to child molestation, I don't remember the details.
That's all I know, if someone has more info feel free to add
He really does go almost exclusively for girls with some kind of sexual abuse history. If high school anon upthread is legit, and her story sounded realistic enough to me, he’s apparently been actively fishing for girls with a SA background since high school. He probably gets off on it and also likes to use it against them to control them. Remember how he flipped out when Billie called him the worst guy she’d ever dated?>I never did xyz like [insert past abuser] so how could you say I’m the worst? Most everyone would agree I’m objectively less bad than that person, which means you’re being DISHONEST!
Frankly I wouldn’t be surprised if he exaggerated or outright made up the SA story he tells girls in order to get them to open up about their own past. He wouldn’t be the first sexual predator to lie about this sort of thing.
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this is rly gay and autistic, Sorry
wouldn't be that surprising since it's the plot of his first book.
And we all know his books are basically his own wish fulfillment or idealized version of events from his life.
I only recently got to read this brain fart and I wonder if Justin is planned to be another protagonist alongside Olivia, especially since it's alluded to Allison's car crash having something to do with Justin (who sees weird shit or is psychic). And I guess, Justin is "losely" based on Christian Grey. Intended or not, Justin seems like Greg's self-insert because (apart from the abusive
sex scene), Justin seems to be bothered with employees when in public so they know he works a lot and is a great overall person, but he's incredibly cruel and demeaning in private, and to his maid (= woman) in particular.
I also bet you 10 bucks that, if Greg doesn't off Justin over the next couple of pages, he'll replace Oliva as the protagonist.
I hope this will never become a physical print. Trees would have to die for this piece of crap, and Greg's already damaged nature enough as it is.
Greg is ESTJ (I think) 7w8 or 8w7, and a Scorpio too if anyone cares (sorry, I have a touch of the 'tism).
lainey was born on October 16, shes a libra.? but def infp 4w5
even tho she thinks shes an infj
she has no fe once so ever which is why everyone mocks her for being monotone or boring(no one cares about astrology or mbti)
Billie is so beautiful, it's no wonder Onion is still crying about losing her. Compared to Footface, it's night and day. And ofc the only way he nabbed her was by using money and manipulation.
God, he must've been desperate to settle for this foot
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Actually,Anon, this is a great example of what Greg's horrendous abuse does to people.I made a few changes, if that's ok.
Lol I like both - Lainey really dulls in comparison to everyone else.
Although, if you don't mind a little criticism, I expected to see one that shows each woman before and after greg - looking vibrant and healthy before, and then the sad, worn down aftermath, just like the drug ads
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So much for their grand plan
Organizing a whole “event” around ignoring Grunt publicly wasn’t the most intelligent move. Because he gets a charge off being so “important”- (he thinks he’s some badass anime villain).
If they’d organized in private through DMs maybe it would’ve worked but honestly…the twitter orbiters (not the victims
) make me cringe
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We all know she'll never leave.
I hope they're proud of looking like absolute idiots.
Hashtagging him and tweeting about not tweeting about him = not acknowledging him
Jesus, sad to see that Shiloh and Sarah and the other girls are participating in this bullshit.
What did they expect other than Jimmy creaming his panties.
The Twitter antio’s just make a mockery of his victims
.. it’s getting sad at least for Sarah anyways >>727863
I think all of them were/are beautiful, even Lainey tbh. I recall when she first cut her hair into the pixie she was very pretty. Now she looks hideous
OT but Skye's recent profile picture reminds me of Zooey Deschanel for some reason.
They were all too good for Greg.
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I know we should probably keep the Twitter shitpost reporting to a minimum but he's in full meltdown mode over Hansen TOPKEK
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You can post his spergout here, this isn’t twitter.
Also can you all with the vendetta against the twitterfags stop? We all know they’re retarded but, the thread is about Greg.
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He's clearly making fun of / taunting the twitter anti-o's… He (was) a comedy actor. That was his literal job. To make fun of people.
Other than having a manic episode, what is he even trying to achieve? Hanson already knows about him and has a pretty decent picture about how obnoxius Greg is. It's not like he needs to put more emphasis on that.
I do find it funny, though, that Greg doesn't have the balls to tweet at Hanson directly.
>He (was) a comedy actor. That was his literal job. To make fun of people.
Yeah, best comedic genius out there. 11/10 for his 5th grade humor and preschool coherence. What a master mind.
Oh, I'm not saying he's funny, just that it's most likely his train of thought. Not 'breaking from a lack of attention' as the people on twitter want to frame it, in his demented state of mind, he probably thinks it's hilarious, and wants to bait people into responding. He's always done this.
Won't be so funny when Chris finally nails him and throws him in the slammer.
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Him posting a laughing gif after every tweet is telling.
>Im not bothered by Hansen at all, dont you see the gif, that means Im not stressed at all.
I was supporting your idea, anon. Sorry if I came across as being hostile towards you, I was also more focused on commenting on how terrible and unfitting Greg's humor is.>>727919
I hope you're right. Maybe he's pressed because the recent mail reminded him that the wetland fiasco hasn't been forgotten or what >>727923
I've been binging his old shows… Chris would love nothing more than to swarm his house with cops and prosecute him to the fullest extent of the law. But he hasn't been following Gurg for years like us, he's got to interview the victims
, compile the evidence, build a case, and then hopefully take him down. Ultimately, I think that's his goal in getting involved.>>727930
It's cool, sorry, my first post was written pre-coffee lol.
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An oldie but a goodie. Lainey’s looked like shit for a long time.
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Have you seen Laineys ever increasing lip sores? By the end of 2020 she'll just be a walking herpes blister with eyes.
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Can’t wait for Chris Hansen to react to this shit on Wednesday during the stream. Who knows what will go down in the next 3 days, though. I don’t think he’s done.
He's just panicing and going a little manic as a result. You'll see it a lot when he panics. Same thing happened with the BDSM type tweets, as well as many other examples from Onision>>727953
He might not be as baffled as you think. I would bet he has seen this sort of reaction before tbh no matter how strange it might seem. just because of the people he's 'worked with' before.
It's not uncommon for certain types to warp into a manic - even euphoric - phase as the the result of panic/anger. Some of the people Hansen has encountered before have possibly been the sort to have this type of reaction too. It's a defense mechanism and in their minds, they are convincing themselves that they can regain control or have control. "I'm untouchable" sort of defensive reaction.
Basically this IS pretty much a mini-breakdown as the result of panic/upset/anger, in a weird almost 'opposite' way where they swing 'upwards' rather than break 'down' as we know it, but not a 'final' one. We know he has a lot of them and I'm sure Hansen will be aware of how this happens
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Guys y’all forgot Skye!
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Greg just uploaded a video where he edited himself into a Chris Hansen video chat interview and he's saying him and Chris fucked and is calling him Daddy. Wtf
what is he doing? genuinely what does he hope to accomplish. he just looks like a fucking psychopathic loser. it's stuff like this that really
makes me question his sanity/grasp on reality. Lots of the shit he does could be written off as him being a mega-asshole, but this kind is stuff is just deranged.
>>727968>hair wet from another 3h shower fap like every day
Yeah, he's losing touch with reality. He's behaving as if he's 12, more so than usually. Maybe we are going to see that Twitter sperg breakdown after all. >>727972
This, I agree.
I'm going to play devil's advocate and say that the onion blackout might be working, because this is fucking deranged.>>727973
Very well could be, but considering Onion's biggest worry at this point is actual government agencies and not YouTube watchers, you'd think he at least would have the sense to not do…whatever the hell this is
He's no doubt having a complete breakdown, but it's a similar "tactic" he used for the fake sponsorship deal he was emailed about, and when they "pulled out" for Greg being a pedo, he just sent back a bunch of GASPP I JUS HERD YOU RAPE PPL SO I CANT WORK WITH U EITHER messages. It's his deranged version of "lalala i know you are but what am i???"
He thinks he's making an intelligent point about Chris Hansen having nooo journalistic iNtEgRiTy and only hosting LIARS, and Shreg making a fake video about Hansen is the exact same as Hansen interviewing his victims
, therefore everyone should believe his fake video if they believe the LIARS aka Shiloh and Sarah.
Of course, it's only clever in his own delusional mind and his brainwashed Patreons', and the rest of the world cringes on.
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Tbh I hope Chris doesn’t respond to this, gerglestein thrives on this kind of attention from shock value, it’s his last claim to fame. Being ignored while on his pathetic tirades is what crushes him.
Seconded, at least for the most part. I would kind of like to know Hansen’s reaction/thoughts on this shit but the fallout of him ignoring it would be milky.
Those of us who’ve been here long enough recognize that shrill tone and crazy look in his eyes. The Narc rage is upon us.
Dimes to dollars I bet that something happened via email between Onision and Hansen this weekend thats causing this.
Im hoping that before Hansens interview with Regina this Wednesday Chris takes a couple of minutes before he speaks to her and shows us screenshots of a dozen manic emails Onision sent him.
Normally to be in the position to taunt someone you have to be dunking on them in some way, not taking the biggest L of your sad, sad career.
It's like if he walked in on Hansen fucking his mom and was like "haha, you suck I win."
I dont know why but that last part literally had me laughing out loud, thank you.
But we know the scenario would actually be Onision curled up in his bed listening to Crazy Tami scream "CHRIS CHRIS OH FUCK YES CHRIS!" though the paper thin walls as a single tear runs down Gregs cheek.