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No. 2425069

This thread is dedicated to all and any fandom discourse. Global rules apply: don't infight, report and ignore bait, etc.

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> Proshipping vs Antishipping
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No. 2425078

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I think the conversation about fake fans who do nothing but watch gameplays to "get" the source material just helped me realize something. Something in the back of my mind winces and feels a slither of irritation when YouTube puts those 40minutes-1 hour long video essays about the "hidden themes", the "underrated horror", the "missed media literacy", and blahblahblah about whatever game these faggy commentary channels are on about. I couldn't find the proper words to explain just why this genre of video annoys me, but now I did. These videos are basically the lore version of just watching a gameplay. Not inherently bad, but the perfect tool for lazy people who don't want to directly interact with the source material yet still want to weasel their way into a fandom. If a person is truly interested in a game, they may watch a trailer that showcase the mechanics, but ultimately they would play the game themselves. The exact same can be said for lore videos. If a game's story is so interesting and important, wouldn't the more enriched response be to play the game yourself so that your mind can formulate its own understanding of the game's impression? At least BEFORE seeking other people's perspective on lore, symbolism, subtext, and messaging? THIS is why I cannot stand "lore and message explained" videos by seemingly pompous faggots on YouTube. Why SHOULD anyone be watching these videos for their first impression, if they arguably should just play the game instead so that their minds can work for their own conclusions? I can say the same for fucking TV Tropes. Play the game yourself and figure out hidden details and aspects yourself first BEFORE checking that dumbass Fridge Brilliance tab to be hit with the most obvious observations and realizations in the history of mankind.

No. 2425114

>>2425078
Inb4 they say they're broke or don't have a powerful pc or something kek.

No. 2425121

>>2425078
I hate lore videos. I hate the fucking 'lore' industry that's sprung up in their wake. I hate the moid obsession with dissecting and categorizing every piece of media like it's a fucking owl pellet so they can crush it into dust and huff it to prove how smart they are.

No. 2425128

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I dont know if anyone's heard about this, but a small artist from my country killed herself over a twitter callout. She was a cunt but its insane to me that someone killed themselves over a call out post and being disowned by her fandom.

>pickme artist, ''bachatota'' who simps for a small vtuber who covers hispanic lolcows

>her whole gallery is nothing but fanart of this scrote's vtuber avatar
>tries to make a video exposing another artist, ''loulou''
>the callout video is 8 hours long
>its mostly filler about random irrelevant stuff she's said/done in the past
>but also talks about the artist drawing loli/degen shit, being friends with pedos and harassing people
>video goes semi-viral, until its striked and deleted by the artist she was calling out
>people start digging out dirt on ''bachatota''
>they find out that she's done the same things she's criticizing ''loulou'' for
>they find her old commission sheet where she was open to drawing lolicon, scat and furries
>she used to harass and alog people online, and even made sockpuppets to harass a female artist into attempting suicide because she had beef with the vtuber scrote she simped for
>she was also in a group with nothing but pedo lolitards
>one of her lolicon pedo friends, ''Hogo Bonk''' raped and then drove his tranny ex to commiting suicide
>the friend she made the video with, an artist going by ''brany'', is a lolicon furfag who used to post on baraag and posted about ''rustle'', a japanese lolicon moid who made references to cp in his art, being one of her favourite artists
>the boyfriend of this artist is the lolifag nazi ''hellonearth'' yes, the one with the ugly british punk oc
>friendly reminder she harassed another artist, ''fantagoria'', over talking to a nazi
>when confronted about this she said she knows ''brany'' only sees lolicon as fiction and doesnt want to end a lifelong friendship over it, despite calling out ''loulou'' over drawing lolicon
>the vtuber she simps for defends her at first, but changed his stance once he was flamed over it
>this vtuber raised to fame for criticizing another youtuber for covering up for his lolifaggot pedo degen friends btw
>he decides to cut ties with her at the end
>a month later she kills herself

This case is just modern fandom in a nutshell for me. A bunch of hypocrites using a morally righteous shield to call people they dislike and generate drama over things they themselves do. Its never about ''protecting the kids'' or ''calling out people that deserve it'', its purely to fuel their dopamine and blood lust for drama. Everyone involved, except maybe fantasmagoria, is a nonce, dont get me wrong. But its so obvious no one cares about the victims and children when they make these callouts.

No. 2425139

>>2425128
So are all lolicons just drama whores? This is the second "big" scandal involving them this month

No. 2425141


No. 2425152

>>2425128
>search her up
>twitterfags still hating on her after her death
I didn't expect that.

No. 2425155

>>2425152
Hispanic twitter is pretty hardcore, if you search up videos about her most of the new comments are ''RIPBOZO'' kek. People that kill themselves over internet drama dont deserve sympathy imo. She could have closed her account and moved on with her life but decided to anhero over her senpai rejecting her.

No. 2425158

>>2425139
If you allign yourself with fictional depictions of kiddie porn then you probably have a few screws loose and genuine mental neuroses.

No. 2425182

>>2425121
So you unironically want stories where's there's no backstory to the world and characters?

No. 2425185

>>2425182
Probably wants a sandbox canvas to write her own stuff in. Imo there's two sorts of fans, one that sees content as a way to jumpstart their own ideas and creativity and those that appreciate the content in a sort of traditional painting way, in that the author's vision and the intentions behind it are the center of attention. (Can't really think of another way of putting it.)

No. 2425620

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>>2425078
>>2425121
It's not that deep, most people watch these longform videos to sleep or for work and I definitely fall into the latter category. I listen to videos on topics that don't even interest me, so work goes by faster

No. 2425623

the vivzie discussion in the last thread reminded me of how younger zoomers and alphas HATE kolleen with a passion, when they probably have one or more interests created by a problematic moid. kolleen's worst crime is what, drawing the old spiderverse man as a bishie? while the average male artist on the internet draws the most disgusting things that have ever touched the human conscience. or the treatment of jk rowling, not stopping at her tweets but also coming at her harmless work, when it's relatively crickets for rapists like neil gaiman or the writer of the 12-year-old orgy stephen king. women can't just do what they love or they'll get picked on till fucking hell while actually problematic moids continue on unscathed.

No. 2425626

>>2425623
>kolleen
who?

No. 2425628

>>2425623
reminds me of how every moralfagging zoomie loves to dickride the chainsaw man author and constantly try to cancel women who husbandofag denji as if the author isnt the one in the first place sexualizing the character and using him as his self insert

No. 2425630

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>>2425626
i realized i misspelled her name, it's actually kooleen. anyways she's an art youtuber that mostly makes shorts and videos with clickbaity thumbnails about how to draw x or do x and as any other big socmed artist, has skinwalkers. tiktok cried over picrel.

No. 2425631

>>2425630
but why?

No. 2425639

>>2425620
Kek, I do the same. There's just something to having someone explain Walking Dead lore to me. Tbh, the show has some cool hidden background stuff, though eleven seasons and multiple spin offs is very much a no, I'm sorry.

No. 2425643

>>2425620
We understand that. The point is that these videos are nothing but slop, hour long videos that have nothing insightful to say, created by people that don’t care, for an audience that isn’t paying attention anyway. And then you have an influx of people parroting opinions from some youtube video that they half-watched while doing something else, it always ruins any discussion that people that actually are knowledgeable on the subject are having. I’ll never get the obsession with needing to be listening to something at all times.

No. 2425647

>>2425630
i love that no matter how much zoomies ree at her she never lets them win, she's going to keep bishiefying their ugly tumblr sexy man slop and they are going to have to live with it because she's too much of a stacy to care about random spergs online

No. 2425655

>>2425623
I don’t hate them I just think it’s funny to laugh at retarded narcs

No. 2425731

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>old woman: exists
>She’s the man in the relationship she gets him pregnant ecksdee
Hannibalfags (and fans of shows with old moid mcs in general) are annoying as fuck. Okay he’s your hideous geriatric babygirl uke bottom or whatever but leave real-life women alone.

No. 2425732

>>2425731
anon those are jokes

No. 2425736

>>2425139
What's the first one?

No. 2425741

>>2425732
nta but what's the joke exactly?

No. 2425742

>>2425741
that shes the ones who wears the pants in the relationship, are you seriously this dense? its a retarded joke, but one that people have been saying for years.

No. 2425745

>>2425732
>making jokes about some woman you don’t know impregnating a man just because she happens to be married to him
She’s not even trying to be in the public eye outside of coming with her husband to events like once a year, she stopped acting 20+ years ago, she’s barely on social media. Learn boundaries, stop treating human women like fictional characters.

>>2425742
>wears the pants in the relationship
That’s not the jokes being made, but clearly you know what’s wrong with the jokes since you reworded it to remove the retarded parts

No. 2425746

>>2425745
anon shes a multimillionaire shes not reading stupid spergy tweets with 100 likes chill

No. 2425747

>>2425732
>>2425742
it's a joke literally only troons and fandomtards who will become troons make

No. 2425749

>>2425747
i never said its a good joke, just that its a joke. Some of you take fandom retardation way more seriously than terminally online pickmes who simp after a decrepit guy.

No. 2425751

>>2425746
If you don't understand the disgust we have towards the blatant misogyny and pure porn sickness of these types of jokes then you need to go back to twitter

No. 2425753

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>>2425751
>tells me to go back to twitter
>while getting offended over a literal who, probably underage or sped, making a stupid joke about an old man and his wife who have too much money to give a shit about them
anon if you are this sensitive i dont know how you manage to surf the web without having a stroke. Do you also get offended at this?

No. 2425754

>>2425753
I have to ask, what about this >>2425731 woman, makes her the man in the relationship

No. 2425755

>>2425749
>>2425753
This anon spergs out about this stupid shit practically every week. Pregnancy is her thing.

No. 2425758

>>2425754
They are just trying to say she's the more dominant one in the relationshio, i seriously cant believe you dont get the joke.

No. 2425759

>>2425732
Doesn’t mean we have to like them.

No. 2425761

>>2425758
what about her is dominant?

No. 2425763

>>2425754
Out of context, guessing it's his reaction being compared in both photos and his wife paying attention to a game or race or whatever while he cuddles on her shoulder. It's a silly joke to say that means she's the dominant one.

No. 2425767

>>2425763
the real reason is fujotifs can't express their sexuality in a normal way, they have to hide it behind layers of irony and porn brain-rot(fujobait)

No. 2425768

>>2425761
that the scrote is lying on her shoulder while she looks stoic, idk. They also call her his owner, do you legit think she legally owns him as a slave? like what cant you understand that these are a bunch of socially inept loserettes trying to praise a woman in a ''cool'' way to make her sound cooler in comparison to her husband they woobify because they are dumb fangirls.

No. 2425769

>>2425767
>husbadofags for old decrepit man
>brings up fujos out of nowhere
?????

No. 2425770

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Retarded, it's literally just the shit moids do with the dominant straight line/submissive diagonal line except without the lines.
It's bad when women joke about it though.

No. 2425774

>>2425770
This is why women are told they arent funny. Reminds me of this youtuber i used to follow that did tiktok recipes and whenever she would taste them she would put on a tiktok fat filter and play a funny fat character like Vicky Pollar, her stupid fanbase called her fatphobic for it and she switched the filter to some generic cat one. Women always have to walk on eggshells to say and do anything while men like Kanye can straight up say the most schizophrenic things and get praised for it.

No. 2425776

>>2425770
it's still retarded
>>2425774
but they actually believe this

No. 2425777

>>2425620
yeah yeah yeah, that's nice and all, just don't call yourself a real fan or try to participate in any debates.

No. 2425779

>>2425776
believe what? do you seriously believe they think she owns him as a slave.

No. 2425781

>>2425776
>but they actually believe this
I googled "how to explain jokes to someone with autism" before realizing I don't care enough.

No. 2425784

>>2425779
>>2425781
considering how many of them troon out and think men get pregnant, I think they do

No. 2425785

>>2425784
are you implying they legit believe mads mikkelsen can get pregnant from his wife? topkek

No. 2425786

>>2425784
Just because a Mads Mikkelson fan said the p word for a joke and stole your "thing", doesn't mean they think men can get pregnant.

No. 2425787

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>>2425785
we have a large group of fandom-rotten retards who genuinely believe that sexuality and sexual organs are just something you can swap or remove. This starts off with fictional characters but eventually leads to real life, usually their own. but again sexuality remains innate, so even in their bizarreo creations, they end up recreating some form of toxic heterosexuality.

No. 2425788

>>2425787
what the fuck does this troon have to do with a mads mikkelson fangirl? her twitterpage has no troonshit in it, just terrible zoomer MM memes. She's going to grow out of it in a year or two.

No. 2425789

>>2425731
So tired of unfunny mpreg gendie jokes in my fandom.

No. 2425791

>>2425787
Anon, this is just a tranny. An agp man getting off to the idea of dick girls is not the same as making an offhand joke in a twitter conversation between friends.

No. 2425792

>>2425791
No, anon, you dont get it. Gendie shit is not the fault of misogynistic scrotes, its actually the fault of autistic Mads Mikkelson fangirls.

No. 2425802

>>2425128
If only it were always that simple to clear the internet of weeb pedos.

No. 2425814

>>2425185
You basically summarized transformative and curative in a nutshell. I'm personally more in the middle with a notable transformative lean but that's because I respect the author's vision but not always the execution.

No. 2425819

>>2425792
>>2425791
>>2425787
>>2425786
>>2425785
If you are unaware, there is a Mads Mikkelsen contamination thread on /m/:
>>>/m/166390

No. 2425832

Due to my disability I do enjoy watching LPs and even lore videos, but don't consider myself a "video game fan". I just think it's neat and has Been useful when interacting
With other geeky/ nerd ish people because I may have a vague idea what/ who they talking about.

No. 2425871

>>2425832
I get it, those long-form videos actually helped me regain my focus and with them, I could condition myself to be able to read again.

No. 2425945

I wish LC was actually a decent place to discuss media. Every time I open up /m/ threads relevant to my interests it’s just non stop complaining about coomers and moidery. I get better discussions on Twitter, 4chan, and Discord, as much as I hate all of those places
>Just talk about things you like if you want to talk about something positive
I already do that and it feels impossible to get a conversation rolling

No. 2425961

>>2425789
People are saying it's "just a joke" but it never really is, it it? The one who gets pregnant is the weaker, submissive one, huh? That's what it means to be a woman?
I'm writing a dynamic where the older female badass mentor figure gets pregnant by the younger, gentler male without any of the "she's the man in the relationship lmao!!" Like no. Just treat them normally, Jesus Christ.
Real relationships don't fall neatly into your cartoon porn tags.

No. 2425974

>>2425945
I feel the same, tbh. Sucks because it's not like I want to use 4chan, having fucks post how much they want to fuck a female character anytime one shows up sucks ass, but at least there's some discussion and you can avoid the worst of it by not watching anything with female characters.

No. 2426180

>>2425789
You're in a thread filled with people who make them

No. 2426193

>>2425974
>>2425945
And yet you keep on discussing media in this thread, instead of using the ones on /m/.

No. 2426214

>>2426193
You don’t know me lol. I have plenty of posts about my favorite character in /m/, I post about my favorite series there and even got at least one other Nona to start it. I put some of my favorite manga in the LC reccs google doc and got someone to read it there and exchanged a few posts about it. I discovered a new series I liked from someone else’s posts and replied to them. But these instances are few and far in between, and most of the time when I open threads in /m/ all that’s happening is people complaining about the FOTM shounen.

No. 2426217

>>2426193
This thread is 90% pregnant Mads Mikkelson autism sperging, what media lmao

No. 2426237

>>2425961
>The one who gets pregnant is the weaker, submissive one, huh? That's what it means to be a woman?
That's why I'm not a fan of those jokes either, internalized misogyny strikes again.

No. 2426240

>>2425961
no1curr about your pregnancy fetish story

No. 2426246

>>2426180
Nobody makes them or likes them, they just think your autistic pregnancy complex is more annoying.
If you just went "these are annoying" instead of trying to make some autistic husbandofags sperging online into "fujotifs seriously believing men can get pregnant?!?!" then people would agree with you.

No. 2426304

>>2425623
I don't understand this mindset. Do you guys not like lolcows? I laugh at women and men equally.

No. 2426313

>>2425736
The bittycat drama

No. 2426356

>>2426304
nta but how is kooleen a lolcow? she hasnt done anything milky, its purely just zoomies starting beef with her out of jealousy

No. 2426361

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No. 2426367

>>2425630
I have no opinion on Kolleen whatsoever but I think this is ugly kek, it reminds me of Astarion.

No. 2426378

>>2425784
Your obsession with trannies is leading you to foam at the mouth at the sight of anything. Everyone here agrees that the joke is stupid and unfunny, we just don't care about it. Meanwhile you're getting worked up about it and fighting everyone in this thread because it's mildly kinda related to pooners. Move on.

No. 2426380

>>2426367
why do people jerk off astarion so much? he looks awful especially with the white hair
also

I don't get why they like the romance in bg3. What does it make for a good romance when the love interests are apparently attracted to everything you mash up in a character creator?

No. 2426398

>>2425078
Lore videos and gameplays or let's plays or whatever aren't even remotely the same thing so this is a weird comparison to make
>>2425139
Yeah even though they pretend like they're super chill and have no problems compared to the evil woke mob or whatever

No. 2426415

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>>2426398
No, they're basically the same concept but for different aspects of a game. Gameplays are essentially breakdowns of the mechanics and steps that it takes to progress and complete a game. Lore videos do the same thing, but with the game's plot: it breaks down the details of the characters, what is going on between them, the situation, and the ending. The point of my post is that lore videos get on my nerves because they're the perfect "junk food" content for people who want a half-assed excuse to themselves "fans". If a person truly cares about a game, they should just play it instead of relying on lore videos to get a clue of wtf is going on with a plot. Kind of like how people shouldn't really call themselves a fan of a game if they're too chickenshit to pick up a controller themselves. It's really that easy.

No. 2426426

>>2425655
>>2426304
it's not about "not laughing at lolcows whether they're male or female", it's about how women, no matter what their focus is on, are held on unreachable standards and even if they skip on all the eggshells, fandom culture will find something to drag them for. see how vivzie and her shows are talked on vs the digital circus, goosetranx is given wayyy more leeway even though his show is literal slop manufactured to hit all the algorithm checkboxes. see >>2425628

No. 2426448

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I don’t think people who husbandofag otome characters are real yumejos since romance is the point of the LI’s existence. Do not argue with me I simply wish to share my opinion.

No. 2426449

>>2426448
I mean sure, the appeal of the game is that they're LI's and fall in love, but especially in games that are less self-inserty, there's a lot more to the LI's than romance.

No. 2426483

>>2426448
Well it's a weird ass opinion.

No. 2426548

>>2426356
>>2426426
I think the major component missing is that these are all women yelling at each other because these are women spaces. Kooleen has a female audience, vivzie has a female audience. Most screenshots posted here are by women on twitter. We're all women talking about fandom discourse. I think this kind of fandom culture is geared more towards women which is why it seems like it's women who are more easily called out.

But in my opinion, I also don't understand why women have to call out both the bad women and men. We should we criticizing men for not policing and holding other men accountable too. Women just don't have the power to actually cancel men, and if those men aren't in those fandom spaces why would they care? I always see people say "why dont they do men the same" but its because those men do not have a female audience. I hope this makes sense but it feels like it's women calling out women because of a. Proximity. And b. Lack of actual power.

No. 2426557

>>2425961
i care and youre right

No. 2426568

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>>2425961
> The one who gets pregnant is the weaker, submissive one, huh? That's what it means to be a woman?
Yes.(blackpill outside containment)

No. 2426570

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a normal thing every woman and girls goes through? So gross!
She's such a pickme, holy shit

No. 2426572

>>2425961
They hated nonny because she told them the truth

No. 2426593

>>2425182
Is this the pancakes waffles meme in action?

No. 2426609

>>2426570
Is this a vtuber or a troon? I don't know why female vtubers feel the need to look down on media that's technically aimed at them. if they played these games, a good chuck of her simps would either vanish or hate crime her which really made be realize why so many tubers would freaking out about this game.

No. 2426636

>>2426568
You arguably only feel that way because women aren't valued like they should be

No. 2426647

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>>2426636
Pregnancy is parasitic.

No. 2426682

>>2426647
What exactly decreases? Brain function?

No. 2426684

>>2426636
We could live in a female only utopia where males are aborted en masse and it still wouldn’t change the fact that pregnancy is an unequivocal loss for the mother and a win for the father. Sorry.

No. 2426730

>>2424079
>pissed off at fujo tendencies

Hazbin is an extremely dumb fandom and there's a lot of competition there. Don't forget they had a whole discourse about whether songrel was "glamourising abuse" as if the key issue isn't how fucking awful and grating the singing is

No. 2426759

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>>2425731
>>2425789
they have a pathological fear of being genuine, and they can't express their sexuality in a healthy way. Every 'I'll get him pregnant' comment is a self-admission of both their misogyny and just how terminally online they are. anyone who defends these as jokes is also admitting they hang out in gendie circles

No. 2426763

>>2426759
Pregnancy is degrading(pregnancy sperging in multiple threads)

No. 2426764

>>2425961
Please keep your milk toast spicy straight pregnancy fetish libfem strong woman alpha omegaverse shit to yourself.

No. 2426767

>>2426557
Can't wait for mpreg to be a banned topic and have its own thread too because hit dogs holler, and worse, we have summoned bippie-chan.

No. 2426770

>>2425746
>>2426240
>>2426764
>>2426193
What's with all this pancake waffles tier replies itt? You have to be baiting right? Did you even read the posts you're replying to?

No. 2426772

>>2426759
But the butt of the joke is that rough heterosex makes the recipient pregnant and that's funny and degrading. All they've done is invert the genders. "Gendies" didn't invent "rough sex through domination makes the recipient pregnant" being the butt of the joke the humiliation it entails and submission of the recipient.

Straight people and moids joke about this submission, pregnancy, degrading women in this way and the humiliation it entails all the time. All they've done is invert the genders.

No. 2426775

>why can't people say they just don't like things or have NOTPs anymore?
because the answer is: there is a guarantee that an autist will insist on morally analyzing you. Most likely because you don't like their mid yaoi faggots, cringe yuri middle schoolers, puddle deep het writing or whatever other trope they're self inserting on as gendies or otherwise. Autists only understand clearly spelled out dismissals, not arguments.

>>2426730
This whole fucking discourse was so stupid. All discourses about angel's songs were. Fans and hatewatchers were tripping themselves over to find a moral reason to hate this song and the character(s) when it was literally just shit or not their taste and that's ok. This behavior appears the most in fandoms because one can always bet on retards not shutting the hell up

No. 2426779

>>2426759
You're right and you should say it

No. 2426784

>>2426775
Because now what you like is a reflection of your moral character. If you like or dislike the wrong thing, you are an inherently bad person and are dangerous to others. If you like or dislike the right thing, you are an inherently good person and can be trusted (so long as you continue to toe the line elsewhere). I'm not even talking about actually objectionable shit involving real life criminality, just things like 'Oh, I ship two white boys together instead of making one of them a troon.'

No. 2426786

>>2426775
I'd take it a step deeper and say that people self-inserting into characters so hard nowadays means that you are not allowed to dislike the characters, because disliking the character means you dislike them. Back then it was fine to say you just dislike some anime shit because it's not your cup of tea but now some fag will pop up and try to cancel you because they believe they really are Bakugo MHA so now you have to justify WHY you dislike it with a bunch of retarded bullshit. "Just let people enjoy things." How about retards just let people hate things and use the block button the way our social media overlords intended?

No. 2426788

>>2426786
Agreed. People also seem to hunt for content they know they won't like or agree with. There'll be a clearly labeled fic about x pairing and fans of y pairing in the comments complaining about how the author is a bad person and how x pairing is the most problematic thing since Judas betrayed the son of God.

No. 2426789

>>2426775
My they/them mutual loves the Poison song because it reminds her of her abusive(?) ex (for context this relationship ended in 2014)

No. 2426801

>>2426788
NTAYRT but didn't this become really widespread starting with the Voltron fandom?

No. 2426809

>>2426759
This shit's so gross. These people need to touch grass, I swear.
I also hate how they associate rough sex with humiliating BDSM/daddydom bullshit, as if rough sex couldn't be pleasurable for both partners, NOT involve any dom/sub shit and also NOT lead to pregnancy at all. Their brains have been fried by misogynistic "dark romance" porn. Turns out my hatred for 50 Shits of Gray has always been justified.

>>2426770
Just ignore it

No. 2426818

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AO3 censorship discourse is back with even more zoomers shitting their pants over fanfic. Not the authors' fault they can't use the tags properly.

No. 2426824

>>2426818
ao3's tag system is set up so you can filter out anything you don't want to see. these retards just love to be outraged over fanfic no one makes them read

No. 2426827

>>2426818
they should be more worried about the fact that ao3 allows rpf smut fanfic of actual kids kek

No. 2426842

>>2426818
I've seen seemingly normal people complain about how there's this huge problem on AO3 with sexualized fanfic featuring "under the age of 10" characters. I have never seen this and I have no idea what kind of fandom they're following that would regularly have that type of content.

No. 2426847

>>2426824
honestly it's a shit system, you have to exclude all the warnings/tags every single time you search by tags and you still might see weird shit if you don't exclude "creator chose not to use warnings". not to mention you can't even filter the normal search function results this way. ao3 has always seemed disinterested in letting you improve your user experience, people can't even make browser extensions without it breaking some of the site's functions.

No. 2426856

>>2426847
It's better than other sites but yeah I don't get why they don't add a permamute option for tags. It's annoying to me how slow AO3 is with features when I'm sure they have a lot of volunteers and money from donations.

No. 2426878

>>2426448
I agree.

No. 2426881

>>2426847
If you had to make a SaaS for fanfic, what would you improve over AO3? Sounds like a good programming idea to be fair.

No. 2426891

>>2426818
their right(unintegrated)

No. 2426907

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Is everyone else seeing the word "puritan" thrown around in very strange ways lately? The sudden surge of people doing a 180° on dark romance booktok and supporting it happening at the same time as the AO3 censorship drama has been… interesting.

No. 2426960

>>2426907
>AO3 censorship drama?
Huh? Also, aren't puritans just against sex? How is disliking bsdm and kink culture inherently puritan? Some of this comes off as libfem sexpos bollocks disguised as deflection.

No. 2426984

>>2426960
it's fine if you dislike that shit, the problem is these Zoomies trying to get everything they dislike deleted from the platform instead of just asking for better tags or separation of spaces so they can avoid it. for example a good solution would maybe be dividing all "extreme" tags into a separate listing or something. censoring writing is actually puritan

No. 2426992

>>2426818
Was ao3 not created by “proshippers?”. Make your own fanfiction website.

No. 2426995

>>2426992
nta but no?

No. 2427004

>>2426995
Kek it quite literally was. Go look it up.

No. 2427010

>>2426847
wait the site doesnt have a feature in the profile settings where you can permanently filter out things?? Ive never thought to do that but i just assumed it was there

No. 2427019

>>2426448
I don't understand your logic. What does the point of his existence being romance have to do with whether you're a "true yume" or not? Although rare, there are yume otome games, you know. LADS may be considered one of them because it encourages self-insertion.

Being a true yumejoshi ONLY means self-inserting, and it doesn't even have to be romantic (could be friendship, family relationship, etc.). Being a husbandofag is something else entirely that often, but not always, overlaps with being a yumejo.

But I don't get what's the problem with the romanceable characters being made for that purpose. If you're trying to claim that fictional characters must have a main purpose other than romance to be considered "legit" husbandos, or that falling in love with a character that was made for you to fall in love with them is "too easy", then you're just a dumbass. Plus, that's not what being a yumejoshi is about at all and this opinion of yours just reeks of wanting to turn husbandofagging into a competition to prove you're the only TRVE "yume" because your husbando canonically did not become attracted to you (how does this prove anything?). If you constantly imagine yourself interacting with fictional characters (especially if romantically) for fun, you are a yumejoshi.

Now, if you actually mean to say that most otome game players probably aren't "real" devoted husbandofags and just like the characters on a surface level, I might agree. Most of them are definitely not hardcore waifuists, that's for sure. But that still doesn't mean that otome characters cannot be ""true"" husbandos (kek) or that self-shipping with one doesn't count as being a """""true""""" yume (LMAO).

No. 2427060

>>2427004
ao3 predates the whole proship discourse
shit, it was created in 2008. but yeah the logic was that it was an open repository and you curated your own browsing; back then there were other archives with stronger moderation if you wanted something more curated.
>>2426984
except it isn't just about kink or whatever, people want to cancel the whole website.
it was created in reaction to other archives banning all nsfw content. there were several incidents where websites like fanfiction.net and livejournal changed their rules and ended up purging a shitload of existing content.
back in the day some fanfic sites wouldn't even allow anything with same-sex pairings. there are also authors who were trying to get fanfic of their works banned, so it's part of ao3's mission statement to defend the existence of fanworks.
people should be glad their precious fanfic is hosted by a nonprofit which holds up their right to free speech i steed of some algorithmic nightmare harvesting their data.
>>2426856
most of the donations go to server costs because those are absolutely huge (ao3 is ine of the most visited websites on the internet) and they have no other source of funds since ao3 doesn't have ads or paid accounts or anything like that.
>>2427010
>>2426847
it has a mute feature where you can hide a specific author's works. otherwise the tag system requires a bit of wrangling because yeah, they trust users to curate their own browsing experience.
the whole point of ao3 os that it's one of the few websites left where YOU get choose what to see rather than them feeding you content.
99.9% of the content people complain about can be hidden simply by excluding the major warning categories. it takes one click to exclude all underage content, zoomers are just lazy and technologically illiterate.

No. 2427071

>>2426647
>>2426682
Where do you think our intelligence comes from? It's thanks to the mother

>>2426684
1. and? 2. what does this have to do with women being lesser

Damn there is so much behind what is purported as a mere joke

No. 2427078

>>2426907
If i think people who sperg on about their problematic faves all the time are damn weird and could benefit from surface level thinking into their preference then I'm a puritan

No. 2427085

I wish dark romance were weirder and more unhinged, even if the prose remained shit.

No. 2427093

>>2427019
While she’s getting haughty about a jp word she barely understands, actual japanese yumes are happily loving their otome LIs kek

No. 2427095

>>2427078
honestly i see your point but it's also damn annoying when peoole expect you to do soul searching or write a whole ass disclaimer before you're allowed to have preferences. fandom is just for fun, i don't wanna have to self-flagellate over liking something because im not catholic. imo the general trend i fandom tends toward more policing of what others are allowed to like, not less.
of course some people could benefit from critical thinking but others should also be reminded that there's a reason "don't like don't read" exists.

No. 2427099

>>2426818
Can these people just use FFN or Wattpad and just leave AO3 alone?

No. 2427123

>>2426827
Kek yeah, that was what I thought they were complaining about before clicking on the image but then the very first phrase being "In the KNY tag-" was a whiplash back to reality.
It's a slippery trope so I'm agaisnt censoring/removing "problematic" and questionable content (even if at times they make me want to kill the men who wrote/drew it and lose all hope in humanity) as long as everything, from the content itself to the characters, is obviously fictional. But the actual kid porn of actors and other real children must go, is it even legal to host it?
(Kind of related, but a few years back I went to the Ace Attorney AO3 tag and the very first fic I saw before filtering was tagged as "child porn", I kid you not. It still haunts me to this day)

No. 2427133

>>2427093
And many of them have done so for more than one, even two decades, too.

No. 2427136

>>2427123
Hopefully it was just CSAM used as a plot point.

No. 2427139

>>2426818
People literally complaining about having to scroll past things on AO3… some people have war in their countries. I get tired of scrolling past trans headcanon fics making gay ships hetero but you don’t see me trying to petition the whole website to change.

No. 2427182

>>2427136
If I recall correctly it was just your usual porn without plot unafortunely, but I didn't look at the tags too closely.

No. 2427249

>>2426984
> separation of spaces
They have other websites they can do that in or they can simply make their own. I don't see why they incessantly keep attacking AO3 as if someone is holding them at gunpoint to browse it

No. 2427251

>>2427249
But if they make their own space, they won't get nearly as much attention, nona!

No. 2427258

>>2427249
Anything they dislike Must Be Eliminated because the world revolves around them.

No. 2427302

AO3 should be deleted because all of the fanfictions there mischaracterize my husbando

No. 2427306

>>2427251
Someone should create a female-centered fandom website with the most boring design and without retarded algorithms, so it scares zoomers away. Like ao3 but for fanart and thirstposting. In any case, I've heard tumblr has gotten better over the years

No. 2427309

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why is there always this weird cope around the lack of f/f instead of accepting that most people in fandoms are straight women

No. 2427332

>>2427309
Being straight is socially unacceptable according to these people so if you refuse to make f/f content you’re a closet misogynist/homophobe/pickme or whatever.
>straight women want hot guys, female characters don’t interest them
Kekkkk yeah no fucking shit like what did you expect.

No. 2427333

>>2426995
>>2426992
I'm pretty sure it was created after the fall out of NC-17 fics on fanfiction.net. I was there when they purged every single fic with the NC17 and sexually explicit tag back in the early 2000s. A03 was supposed to be a freedom anything goes type of fic site, but it's been getting worse thanks to young zoomers complaining about anything and the weird "liking 2d men = hating gay men" irl crowd.

No. 2427348

>>2427309
Some love to overexplain instead finding the root cause and remedy it. And why Ao3? There were countless femslash in other sites but they'd rather demonize het and m/m fans for dare writing what interest them.

No. 2427350

>>2427333
Yes and also in response to the mass purge on LJ of fancontent, especially gay and NSFW stuff. AO3's parent org was and is intended to be a Fandom vault of sorts, making it so that fanworks aren't lost when sites go down.

No. 2427355

>>2427302
You're so real for this. And when my favorite ship has sex for the first time, they always make it so "uwu I'm ashaaamed to like sex" stfu

No. 2427357

>>2426818
Ao3 is deeply overdue for an update, especially considering how much money they've been gaining. And the only thing those zoomers are right on is that explicit fan works of real children should be deleted. I've seen proshippers defending them because they're "fictional" work, but that shouldn't matter at all. Ao3 has shown the power to delete fanfic before, so its interesting to note how they don't take them down even if you report it.

No. 2427365

>>2427357
I agree on underage RPF. Frankly, I think it should be banned regardless of rating because no kid, no matter how famous, should have such a popular place on the internet hosting content about them questioning their gender identity or hanging out with Scooby Doo or some shit. RPF about adults is different obviously.

No. 2427377

>>2427309
they would rather spend time schizoposting over why straightgirls don't write yuri instead of creating their own yuri

No. 2427382

>>2427333
gay moids love to make everything about their ugly 3dpd selves. you are not the kawaii uke in my folders

No. 2427392

>>2427309
>accepting that most people in fandoms are straight women
Because no one is willing to do this. Every woman in fandom is bisexual, queer, nonbinary, genderfluid, asexual, or some combination.

No. 2427416

>>2427309
A lot of women in fandom are heavily invested in the idea that it's a queer space above all else (and thus something that's socially beneficial) because it makes them feel better about being involved in something so self-indulgent, I think. They've internalized the fujoshi=homophobic fetishizer thing and can't even admit to themselves that they have a specific interest in m/m fiction because they find it hot. They'll say they just like queer fiction and it just happens it's always m/m, which gives fuel to the yurifags who want to complain rather than make their own content.
But ultimately the fujos keep on focusing on m/m, nothing changes and the arguments continue on.

No. 2427441

>>2427309
I think the elephant in the room is what >>2427416 said. Fandom is overwhelmingly straight women, no matter how much the tumblr kweer types like to wave their fists in the air about it. There are less yuri fics because there are less same sex attracted women in fandom, along the other problems that exarcebate the issue and make those women not want to write or get into f/f fiction.
>can't even admit to themselves that they have a specific interest in m/m fiction because they find it hot. They'll say they just like queer fiction and it just happens it's always m/m, which gives fuel to the yurifags
I don't know, man. Seems like this muh queer space hettie betties get out reeeeeeeeeee mentality is not sustainable for anybody. No wonder self hating shippers try to find every loophole under the sun to not get scolded. Gonna have to give this shit up eventually.

No. 2427512

>>2426772
exactly. the concept of hetero sex (being penetrated) and pregnancy being degrading to women is not some “fandom or gendie only thing”. it’s all around us. I don’t think it’s beneficial to support these concepts but these woman just don’t want to be degraded and don’t have the power to single-handedly change how society and their culture thinks of sex so they just make jokes online.
>>2427309
the numbersfagging is dumb but I always appreciate a good autistic chart. a couple of these are true though it is mainly the straight women one and the text focused one.

No. 2427562

>>2427309
Is there really a lack of female relationships in the media?

No. 2427590

>>2427377
seriously, all these people complaining why dont you learn to write or draw kek

No. 2427641

>>2427309
>Lack of female characters
>Lack of female relationships
>Lacks favoured dynamics
There. Those are my 3 reasons listed right there as to why I don't have any f/f ships. Why do people act like they're excuses when they're very clearly observable facts? I make my own lesbian OCs and create content of them but because people whining about the lack of yuri would rather just screech about not being coddled in the fanfic department instead of supporting people's original creations. And the kind of stuff I do isn't even some niche outlandish fetish, just butch/butch and butch/femme with edgier dynamics but nothing less than two pastel color femme hoyoverse waifus making out isn't accepted by these moralfagging goonettes.

No. 2427686

>>2427562
yeah idk what theyre talking about. i've always watched shows with majority females so i only see f/f relationships

No. 2427712

>>2427095
>>2426960
Ayrt what I've been seeing is a weird mish mash of opinions. A lot of the people who are currently very outspoken about how AO3 should have 0 censorship because it's puritanism to remove pedoshit from random spaces are the same people calling dark romance/booktok content disgusting media that shouldn't be allowed. I just think it has been very weird to observe the people who are in the trenches defending the underage tag are also giving sideye to mildly dark media for middle aged women to read with a glass of wine on a Friday.
>>2427085
Same tbh I think women should be allowed go bananas with their media consumption. Dark romance seems to be a completely female media interest afaik (except for the occasional pickme moid cosplaying in Temu tactical gear) so if Joe Goldberg is the goal just let grandma go nuts
>>2427095
>"don't like don't read" exists.
I'm half and half on this. On the one hand morally grey media and dark romance are acceptable because at it's (usually) written as two consenting parties doing weird shit, but a lot of people saying "don't like don't read" are defending some real weird shit. Live and let live but I'm really side eyeing a lot of people in random spaces who are sperging tf out over how important it is for them to have access to full on ass rape of Harry Potter

No. 2427762

>>2409906
>"eroge games"
poser
>Dear god, the comments are more deranged than Indians seeing classical art and thinking it's a real person
Typical male pathological liar behavior, what else is new?

>>2411664
Yeah the real dumbass move is assuming that you need "extra help" because you're female and not that they're just making a game feature more convenient.

I feel like Infinity Nikki and LADS attracted a lot of normies who are unfamiliar with video games that are more complex than shit like Candy Crush. But what really makes me sad is that these normie women have this deeply ingrained idea that they're too stupid for such relatively complex games. Being unfamiliar with video games is not the same as not being smart. They're so afraid of their own assumed stupidity that they don't even try, but if they didn't have this fear that they're too dumb for video games, they'd be perfectly able to enjoy the game without putting themselves down and even figure out how everything works quicker, because they wouldn't be held back by their own self-loathing assumptions about themselves. It really proves that what many people have been saying about shitty sexist/misogynistic stereotypes significantly affecting women's interest in tech is true and not an exaggeration. A lot of normie women really do have this idea that they're too dumb to understand certain things and it's because they've been implicitly told their entire lives that being female makes them stupid. It's pure insecurity.

It's very very sad how when these seemingly normie women from TikTok (as described by this Reddit user) want to make inside jokes to share a laugh with their community, their first idea is to denigrate themselves for being female. It's one thing to poke fun at a mistake you made and say you had a dumb moment, it's another entirely to call yourself and your female peers "dumb girls" like you're infantilizing your entire sex.

>>2411681
It's possible IMO. I have encountered tranny scrotes defending the babby difficulty in a game like Princess Peach Showtime because "it's a great introduction to video games for girls", implying that girls are all unfamiliar with videogames and/or stupid. (As if there weren't already thousands of girls that love stuff like Mario and Kirby) The username and tiny profile pic thumbnail were extremely clockable but this is not always the case, especially for someone who doesn't want to be mean to troons.

But like anon said, this happens in the LADS community too (absolutely no male troon is playing LADS), so there's definitely actual women who think like this in the IN community as well.

Late by 11 days, sorry

No. 2427814

>>2427712
Ithe whole point is that if you don't like "weird shit" ao3 gives you the option not to see it. or you can go to the sites with tighter moderation. either way no one makes you look at it and it's very telling that vocal moralfags can't leave well enough alone and try to ban shit for everyone instead of curating their own browsing experience.
idc what women write. i've written female-on-moid torture fic so im not in a position to judge what harry potter ass fuckers do. men shouldn't be allowed near a word processor tho.

No. 2427815

>>2427814
>harry potter ass fuckers
Whom are fucking Harry Potter in the ass????????

No. 2427822

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>>2427815
a whole lotta people, it looks like

No. 2427825

>>2427712
I feel like the problem with censoring fics is that it isn't possible to objectively determine the intent of the fic. People can write about uncomfortable topics from a critical lense and not everything is about kinks and jerking it (though a lot of it is, kek). Any kind of heavy handed fic regulation just purity spirals until all fic is sunshines and rainbows scrubbed clean and devoid of conflict

No. 2427835

>>2424184
NTAYRT. Short answer: VNs can hardly be considered games, but that doesn't mean it's not a good storytelling medium; pure VNs are for people who just want to read a story, and if you don't like that, you can play "actual" games. It doesn't mean VNs are bad or an inferior form of entertainment, it just means they aren't so much games as they are digital books with visuals. It's obviously not for everyone. And yes, the point of the VN format is to be story-focused.

Long answer: I'll give you a brief history of VNs.

VNs came both from computer porn games and console "sound novels" which weren't for otaku coomers. Sound novels had no character sprites and were heavily story-focused. They were basically just horror novels with some background graphics and sounds to set the mood.

Before sound novels, there were plenty of indie eroge on personal computers like the PC-98. These games were rarely story-focused, and their gameplay was varied (puzzle games, RPGs, you name it). But of course, the main point was to see a naked bishoujo, or have sex with her, or rape her. The gameplay was just an excuse or a means to an end, and the porn was the reward. Eroge are games with explicit erotic/pornographic elements, it doesn't matter which format it comes in.

Then, the doujin circle Leaf had the idea of mixing aspects of eroge with the "sound novel" format. They added manga-style character sprites and CGs, as well as pornographic scenes, mixing them with a horror story. This new format, the "visual novel", proved to be popular, as was the edgelord plot of the first VN, Shizuku. Otaku in the eroge scene realized that it was pretty easy to tell a story in a game with this format, so the VN genre took off.

Dating sims (ren'ai simulation in Japanese) also became popular around this time (IIRC), thanks to games like Doukyuusei (an eroge) and Tokimeki Memorial (a galge, AKA a "non-pornographic bishoujo game"). Please keep in mind that dating sims are not VNs and vice-versa, although hybrids are possible and do exist. As I understand it, dating sims started to influence the VN scene, and some doujin circles, like Key, began creating visual novels that were more romance-oriented, with the plot being divided into "heroine routes". Eventually, they would start creating romance/bishoujo VNs but without the porn, as they were entirely romance and plot-focused.

But there started to be a divide between VN fans and classic eroge fans. The males who favoured classic eroge didn't like that you had to read so much to have sex with the female characters, for example. Some of them even complained about dating sims requiring so many "extra steps" (building a relationship with the love interests) to get to the sex or to achieve a romantic ending without explicit sex. And visual novel fans were often plotfags who didn't care about anything but the story (not the sex or the gameplay).

So, depending on what the appeal of a game is and what your target audience wants, you'll have to decide what genre your game will belong to (visual novel or something else like simulation, RPG, etc.), and, if you choose to make a VN, what amount of gameplay to put in it and how to implement it. If you want a purely plot-centric game, you probably won't need any gameplay, unless it's something like quick and easy puzzles. But, for example, if you wanted a VN with a war-centric plot, you could maybe add some TRPG sections if that's what you and your target audience like. Or be like BlazBlue and do the inverse: add VN sections to a game that is primarily a fighting game. There's plenty of "actual" games that are also considered VNs and vice-versa, and there have been for a really long time in Japan. But there's nothing wrong with a pure VN sticking to its original format.

>>2424042
>the only western VN i can think of that isnt trying to mock the medium and ''deconstruct it'' is Katawa Shoujo''.
Fake and gay, there's a lot of western VNs that aren't "le ironic VNs" or "dating sim" (wrong use of the term) parodies. You don't really know what you're talking about. There's Beskonechnoe Leto which is considered "the Russian Katawa Shoujo", Juniper's Knot, VA-11 HALL-A, Misericorde, Siren's Call, Heart of the Woods, Red Embrace: Hollywood, etc.
On the otome front, there's Cinderella Phenomenon, Our Life: Beginnings & Always, Backstage Pass, Cinders, Date Warp, Royal Alchemist, the whole Magical Otoge/Moon Observatory series, Locked Heart, Tailor Tales, and so many more unironic ones that you wouldn't believe.
They might not be as hugely well-known as Katawa Shoujo or DDLC, but if you actually try to find more sincere western VNs you'll find them quite easily. That, plus VNs aren't as big outside of Japan, so of course there'll be less people making them and less well-known hits like the two aforementioned VNs.

>>2424095
There's nothing wrong with horror VNs, that's literally how the genre started. You're saying that as if a lot of popular and trashy eroge VNs (euphoria comes to mind) weren't horror too. But I do hate how many retards in the West see VNs as crappy """dating sims""" that are nothing but a meme. They looked at some self-parodying or quirky Japanese VNs like Hatoful Boyfriend (which is genuinely good), assumed the worst, and proceeded to ruin the way the VNs are seen in the west with their shitty "ironic" "dating sim" parodies for years to come.

No. 2427842

>>2425078
When I was younger I used to obsessively watch let's plays of games I wanted to play because I come from an extremely poor family and I could only really get, like, one mainline Pokemon game a year if I was lucky. Nowadays I'm always busy drawing so I do the same because I would prefer to be on the grind than play a video game. It's also a little silly to brush off people who consume media through let's plays when one of the hugest fandoms was actually originally formed BASED on a let's play. This is something that's become a bit of a forgotten history, but dangan ronpa's fandom initially comes from a something awful let's play, as it was the very first way to access DR in english, even before the anime aired.

>Something in the back of my mind winces and feels a slither of irritation when YouTube puts those 40minutes-1 hour long video essays about the "hidden themes", the "underrated horror", the "missed media literacy"

I do somewhat agree with you here actually, I think people's media literacy dropping is a severe problem due to the fact that we are no longer reading and just have everyone explaining things to us on tiktok instead, but the way to fix this is not through insulting people, as people generally do not respond well to insults unless they have a severe history of abuse that's caused them to have stockholm syndrome or something. I think we need to become a bit kinder to one another overall and make efforts to understand fandom takes we don't agree with, like, where they're coming from and stuff.

No. 2427949

>>2427019
Nta, I think part of it is these LIs characters are written in superficial ways with specific tropes in mind to appeal to as much people as possible and to sell merch/get your money. They don't feel like real fleshed out characters. Although I feel this way about characters like the dudes from JJK, too. And characters that are too niche and in the background with barely any screen time and storyline or personality at all. It feels performative and just hopping on a trend that will eventually die out. It's whatever but it's hard to take someone seriously as a yume/husbandofag when they change their husbando depending on trends and tropes rather than what they truly personally like.

No. 2428018

>>2427309
Yuritroons and himetards are on the same level of whininess as scrotes. Yurifaggots complaing about ''muh lack of yuri!'' when most anime has yuribait and there are big franchises like Gundam, Symphongear and Nanoha pandering to them. Its like when scrotes complain that there arent hot vidya women anymore when they have over 20 years of oversexualized female characters to jack off to and Japan/Korea still panders to them on the daily. Holy shit get some real problems.

No. 2428024

>>2427949
Them being "too" tropey or not being fleshed out "enough" doesn't make you not a TROO husbandofag if you pick one of them as a husbando, though.
Yes, there are trend hoppers, they might be in it for the steady stream of content of cute boys that they find attractive but without actually loving them, although they're not harming anyone so they should be allowed to have fun however they want. I simply separate serious husbandofags from these people because they're clearly into different lifestyles, it's pretty easy to tell them apart, it's easy to tell when someone enjoys a character in a husbando way or not.

Also, some otome characters can be well-written and fleshed out, even with the obvious base tropes. But regardless of how well they're written, it's ridiculous to claim that actual otome husbandofags don't really exist (what the other anon originally claimed) just because you think they're all the fandom trend-hopper kind and not the serious devoted kind, or because you don't like otome heroes because you can't stop thinking about how they're made cute so you'll like them. What kind of logic is that? I think her opinion literally just comes from seeing too many LADS fans online who are not really devoted to husbandos, which, I mean… I haven't seen many of them claiming to be. It's like enjoying 2D boys is wrong and fake unless they do it in this very specific way that you approve of, which feels like you wanna turn it into a competition.

I also hate how husbandofags who husbando random side characters are always automatically assumed to be faking it for attention. Even the ones that do enjoy a specific kind of attention, can you really tell what's going on in her mind and whether she doesn't actually feel the way she claims to feel for the character? Some of them might be faking it but you can usually tell easily, and seeing them all being conflated because lol who would have a husbando like that, right? is annoying. What if the character is actually her type? How is liking someting niche and obscure "hopping on a trend" anyway?

And again, being a yume is not about having a single established husbando of over 20 years. It's just about self-inserting, and you can absolutely be a "trend-hopper" yume. You keep misunderstanding the meaning of that term. It was originally used for internet novels where you could input your name in all sorts of fictional stories (basically self-inserting into a bunch of different scenarios), which you would definitely classify as "fake yume" kek.

>depending on trends

Yes, anyone can tell that someone who changes husbandos constantly depending on what's currently popular, and forgets about the others as soon as a new character is trending, is trend-hopping.
>depending on tropes rather than what they truly personally like.
Character tropes are part of what one personally likes. That's why some people actually fall in love with otome characters, because they are attracted to characters that fit those tropes that they like, that's the basic component of the attraction to fictional characters in the first place (the rest depends on the execution). Because characters are made of tropes. What's the problem with this that makes it "not true" husbandofagging other than "they were intentionally designed to make you fall for them!" No shit, and there's people with OC husbandos as well so I guess they're the fakest of them all. It's so fucking weird to claim that just because something was made to appeal to you, it doesn't count. What is this bizarre gatekeeping? As long as you feel real love for the character it's a real husbando, period. Everything else is irrelevant.

I just don't like it when people judge how "real" a husbandofag is based on her choice of husbando instead of something more obvious, like the way she acts about it. Thanks for reading my manifesto.

No. 2428027

>>2428018
I'm not a yurifag but lesbian women wanting more lesbian content is different from pedo transbians wanting every piece of media to make little girl characters have sex on-screen. They are two different demographics and I'm sure the aforementioned lesbians are sick of being lumped in with the straight scrotes who clearly have different tastes from gay women.

No. 2428029

>>2428027
Lesbians still have a shit ton of content. Pretty much every western cartoon of the last decade has a canon lesbian couple. They are complaining about lack of fanart when they already have upper hand in canon media. Like ofcourse no himetard is going to write f/f Avatar fanfiction when it already has THREE canon lesbians. Its like they dont understand fanart/fanfic exist because the lack of something in the canon material. deleted because i am dumb esl and wrote ''female lesbians'' kek

No. 2428034

>>2427842
oh my god the somethingawful dr translation was a core memory i havent thought of in like 10 years… bless you nona

No. 2428042

>>2428029
Sounds like you're salty that there are canon lesbian couples kek.
You(?) used a blatantly disingenuous example, laiming lolibait/yuribait for moids in anime shit is for lesbians somehow. So I replied to that example.
>Lesbians still have a shit ton of content.
A few characters being lesbians is not "a shit ton of content". And especially in western media, the reason there are lesbian characters might not always be that they want to give something to lesbian fans, but it can also be to seem progressive (and lesbian couples are more "acceptable" than gay male ones in media), and/or because the moids in charge get off to it.
The yuri thread on /m/ is pretty normal, they aren't doing anything wrong by wanting more content. Maybe don't get mad at female yurifags in general and instead make fun of retards on social media? It's not like we can argue with them over here anyway. And Xitter tards can be yurifags, fujos, yumes, scrotes, etc. so it's not like there's a reason to specifically target lesbians specifically unless you're personally invested in some Xitter "discourse" (internet retard fight).

No. 2428051

>>2428027
Gundam's lesbian couple was pedobait?

No. 2428054

>>2428042
>Sounds like you're salty that there are canon lesbian couples kek.
huh? i am not the one complaining that straight women arent making self indulgent fanfiction for free for me.
> laiming lolibait/yuribait for moids in anime shit is for lesbians somehow.
there are tons of lesbians making/enjoying scrote tier shit, yuripedo is an example
>A few characters being lesbians is not "a shit ton of content". And especially in western media, the reason there are lesbian characters might not always be that they want to give something to lesbian fans, but it can also be to seem progressive (and lesbian couples are more "acceptable" than gay male ones in media), and/or because the moids in charge get off to it.
'' a few characters'' and its literally every single main pairing in western shows from the last decade(SU, Korra, She-ra, the owl house, adventure time, the loud house, hazbin hotel etc) meanwhile fujos only have ugly walled 3DPDs, the hazbin/hb faggots and background characters with 2 voicelines like the hideous faggot dads from TLH.
>The yuri thread on /m/ is pretty normal, they aren't doing anything wrong by wanting more content.
the problem is that yuritards are always complaining that there isnt enough yuri content and constantly pick up fight with straight women who make their own f/m m/m content when literally all mediums pander to them. If you have hyper specific fetishes where neither moe anime girls or normal cartoon women like korra/shera/adventure time are up to your taste then just make your own content, but stop playing the victim and pretending you are so oppressed because there isnt enough yuri when thats simply not true. Fujofags have to waddle through shonenshit and spokon crap for moids to find a midly decent non canon ship and f/m shippers who arent into non ddlg/daddydom are the most opressed class of female shippers. You dont get to complain and constantly shit on other women when you are the only ones that are at the top of the shipping food chain.

No. 2428057

>>2428051
No but Miorine was just a dogshit character

No. 2428059

>>2428024
Incredibly based nona

No. 2428065

>>2428054
I actually agree with you that the people who demand more f/f fic are wrong, because I think the only good f/f is going to come from people who care about it enough to do it well, not straight women who are guilt tripped into pandering to other people's interests and not their own.
however, I do want to point out that western f/f is overwhelmingly trash. this is a total digression, not me arguing with you or anything, but I'm always thinking about this. I'll concede that SU she-ra and owl house were probably written by women for a female audience, but they're unwatchable tv shows for babies. the hazbin hotel lesbians are obviously just virtue signaling when vivzie would rather be writing yaoi kek because her heart isn't in that shit at all. then aside from those, I think that the prominence of f/f in comics, video games, and other nerd media is for men who want romance and sex in their fiction but don't want to see women lusting after or falling in love with handsome men who make them feel inferior. it actually embarrasses me to see suckers wax poetic about how revolutionary the queer representation is in some show when it's clear as day to me that it's about pandering to insecure male nerds.

No. 2428070

>>2428065
My point still stands, just be glad you get something at all. Women have been shipping ugly 3dpd scrotes and fucking robots from a cartoon for little boys for ages because there is so little content made with hot men, let alone hot men who are a canon couple. The yuri being made not being up to your taste doesnt mean it doesnt exist at all. Most bl fanfics come from media meant for men, yet fujos still squish every microsecond the two male characters they like are together to write and draw their fanart/fanfics.

No. 2428076

>>2428065
This is the problem with yurifags, you guys are too picky even when shit is handed to you. Even if it's dogshit and OOC M/F and M/M writers will make up whatever about a character and redesign them to their hearts' content to suit their tastes, why not do the same?

No. 2428135

>>2428065
No offence nona, but why is that our problem? Go cry to the yuri thread about it, no1curr that you have substandard lesbian anime porn.

No. 2428141

>>2428065
>not straight women who are guilt tripped into pandering to other people's interests and not their own.
I wish more people would understand this. Why did it even become a popular thing in fandom to try and guilt trip people into making the types of fan content they want? Is it because it worked on white women who didn't wanna be racist when people first started drawing in the hyper diverse tumblr art style back in 2013? People who are guilted into making something are not only gonna bounce back eventually, but will probably come out hating the people who made them feel like they had to make that thing.

No. 2428321

>>2428141
ease of access to the internet I think. back then if you were going online to engage in a fandom, you were actively contributing to it. Now it's just normalized to consume fanwork without giving anything back.

No. 2428324

>>2428065
I wonder if these people begging for f/f were around when Madoka was new and everyone and their mothers were shipping Homura and Madoka or Sayaka and Kyoko. Or when steven universe was still making eps and there was nothing but yuri of the gems? Shows that f/f can dominate a fandom/talk if people are willing to put in the work to make it happen.

No. 2428326

>>2428076
>>2428135
Nta. She's not being whiny at all, though. Her observations are reasonable and she explicitly said at the top of her post that it's dumb to demand more content from people who don't want to make it.

No. 2428373

>>2428324
Also it helps when the source material has mostly female characters (but isn't just wankbait for scrotes).

No. 2428411

>>2428141
IMO it's both the ease of access to the internet and the fact that it was very very easy to browbeat and guilt trip female dominated fandoms into making fandom a form of activism, that behavior was already rearing its ugly head on livejournal. It set a really bad precedent. Hell, it's only just recently that people have been trying to make an effort to get rid of the "ew straight woman in my fandom!!1!1!" boogeyman brainworm from tumblr. What was all that moral posturing about fandom being a ~queer~ space for shut in speds who got their shoelaces from the president even for anyway?

No. 2428535

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>>2427309
Bro should just watch anime

No. 2428538

>>2428535
Pretty sure there's 6-10 yuri anime slated to release this year, the issue is is that they're never good enough.

No. 2428552

>>2428324
These are great examples to disprove their bullshit. I'm pretty sure Homestuck had an insanely popular f/f pairing as well, and going further back, even freaking Hetalia had a LOT of fanfics/fanart for the Nyotalia AU. These retards also love to act like Arcane doesn't exist and hasn't given us the (probably) most popular f/f ship in the past few years kek.

No. 2428560

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>>2428535
new higurashi artstyle is so ugly eyestrain, everyone looks terrible, especially Ooishi, that's the face of a fucking turtle, not human

No. 2428578

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>>2428560
Him checking out Keiichi’s ass was pretty funny though

No. 2428605

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>>2428578
Higurashi has had a lot of very retarded fanservice over the years but at least the OVA that was otherwise garbage gave us this

No. 2428623

>>2428605
hell yeah

No. 2428668

>>2428605
>>2428623
>>2428578
made by a pedophile

No. 2428687

>>2427814
Ayrt I'm not against weird shit I just think it's been weird to watch both sides of the debate without actively participating in it. Personally I do like some weird shit (moid torture included tbh nonna you're based for that, I wonder if I ever accidentally crossed your content kek)

No. 2428695

>>2428070
>>2428076
NTA and I agree in the sense that gay people shouldn't concern themselves with the relative number of yaoi or yuri couples in mainstream anime,, given that we're only like 3% of the population.
But saying "people who like yuri should be happy with the slop they're given, even if it sucks" is hard to defend. You can only argue that if you're willing to apply it to your favorite genres too.
If you're really fine with co-opting subpar characters and relationships from Free and Boku no Pico, and you are NEVER going to complain about the lack of good M/M ships or hot male characters, that's consistent.
But literally within both your posts, you complained that fujos are dealing with a lack of good M/M material? So why is it a problem when yurifags say the same thing?

No. 2428697

>>2428668
>All the other fanservice in higurashi
>crickets
>Keiichi fanservice
>"Reeee pedo"

No. 2428807

>>2428552
I don't think she's a yuri fan, but there's one anon who is weirdly angry about those two guys people ship from Arcane, calling the pairing misogynistic or whatever because one guy has a girlfriend or something. As if people haven't been ignoring canon love interests for as long as the concept of shipping has existed regardless of whether the ship is gay or straight. I think some spergs are just intolerant of differences and want any kind of fan work they dislike to cease existing. I don't see how somebody shipping, for instance, Shadow and Sonic, prevents anybody from enjoying Amy (either on her own or as a love interest for Sonic). If someone says something negative about her to you, just block them and move on. It's impossible to spend any amount of time in fandoms without seeing interpretations you disagree with. That's just life.

No. 2428845

>>2428807
Not a yuri fan, it's a Mel shipper/self inserter (not sure which). She thinks it's racist and misogynistic that the guy gets shipped with the white guy and not the black woman.

No. 2428853

>>2428845
I wish xitterfags would either integrate or stay on their hellsite, and I say that as someone who likes Mel and isn't even a Jayvik shipper.

No. 2428879

>>2428668
the amount of mangakas who have been arrested for cp possession is actually insane

No. 2428887

>>2428879
Really? Compared to other entertainment industries/industries involving children it seems pretty average.

No. 2428907

speaking of cp possession, i haven't read Rurouni kenshin but I legit don't care if the author got arrested for it, as long as none of his worldviews reflect in the manga

No. 2428962

>>2428411
No wonder being a pansexual demigirl is such an epidemic in fandom spaces. I unironically think we need to start making burner twitters and shit that tell women it's okay to stand up for themselves in fandom because so many people will just lay there and take it when they feel uncomfortable and bullied. Sure, if you want to make change happen, then slithering a bit of into casual spaces is the key, but making EVERYTHING about activism will just lead to stress and unhappiness.
>>2428697
Nonnas will call any depiction of a woman in anime pedophilic but will allow teenage boys who clearly act their age and have teenage boy problems to be sexualized and not bat an eye kek

No. 2428965

>>2428907
>as long as none of his worldviews reflect in the manga
Unfortunately, the age gap between the protagonist and female love interest is the most heinous I've ever seen in any shounen. They are 28 and 17 at the start, respectively.

No. 2428970

>>2428962
>No wonder being a pansexual demigirl is such an epidemic in fandom spaces
Isn't it strange that so many young girls are calling themselves anything but straight and female? It's like the highest offense to be seen as one.

No. 2428972

>>2428907
>would support a story by a pedo moid
The state of the women itt

No. 2428976

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>>2428970
or identifying as therian or non-human that isn’t RP

No. 2428986

>>2428972
>support
Figure most weebs pirate both anime and manga. I would have been enraged if I supported a show like higurashi gou/sotsu financially.

No. 2428988


No. 2428995

>>2428965
This got me wondering if there were any other age gap couples. The only one I can recall rn is bokuben, which was between older woman/younger man but around the same age.

No. 2428996

>>2428976
>therian
holy autism, I forgot these people exist? Aren't some of them "kinnies" now or am I mixing them up?

No. 2428997

>>2428986
It's the choice of engaging in anything made by a convicted male pedophile. Not talking about your regular lolislop

No. 2428998

>>2428996
Same thing but they change the name up a lot
For a while kinnie was therian but now kinnie is just relating to a fictional character so they're back to using therian.

No. 2429005

>>2428970
Knew a tif who started dating a tim and detransitioned so that they wouldn't be a straight couple KEK she considered herself a gay man before that point and now claims to be bi. Knew another "gay" tif who began dating someone who came out as a tim a few days later and magically became bisexual. It's just social gymnastics, they want to continue being seen as the correct thing to be in fandom spaces, but would probably vomit when trying to eat pussy.

No. 2429006

>>2428997
Ah well, can't say I'll ever read it either so I don't actually have anything to say back kek.

No. 2429037

>>2428998
unfortunately therian has infested zoomer teens

No. 2429039

>>2429037
Weirdly we haven't really seen a final fantasy house 2

No. 2429088

>>2428996
More like kinnies moved onto therians because it's a step above that, same with how kinnies evolved to being systems.

No. 2429091

>>2429088
>being systems
so like DID faking where "alters" have suspiciously the exact same political beliefs as the person?

No. 2429101

>>2429091
Yes kek. DID seems to be the final boss at least. I haven't seen a new trend among kinnies since that blew up during covid, before that they would just claim to have psychosis

No. 2429110

>>2429101
I thought kinning was just relating to a fictional character?

No. 2429117

>>2429110
The definition changed >>2428998

No. 2429118

>>2428962
>Nonnas will call any depiction of a woman in anime pedophilic but will allow teenage boys who clearly act their age and have teenage boy problems to be sexualized and not bat an eye kek
Who gives a shit about scrotes

No. 2429120

>>2429110
That's how it is for "normal" kinnies but the more extreme ones began trying to constantly one-up each other. It went from simply relating to "this is character is me no doubles" to "I have psychosis if you reality check me I'll start cutting" to what we have now (200+ alter systems)

No. 2429151

>>2429120
This kind of thing has actually been around as long as the internet. There's basically always been online communities of people doing DID/otherkin/soulbond stuff.
The version where 'kinnies' didn't take it seriously and were just relating to the character was a later development, I think after it took off with zoomers in the late 10s. It's always been fundamentally a spiritual woo and/or munchie thing and it's just reverting to that if it looks like it's gotten more extreme.

No. 2429166

>>2428054
>yuripedo is an example
And she's the minority here on lolcow if you'd look at the yuri thread. Hell, even the yuri crazies thread proves that most yurifags here find that sort of content repulsive and actively make fun of yuripedo. Just because there are some actual lesbians out there who enjoy scroteshit doesn't mean that's what all lesbians want. Be fair. Lesbian pickmes are a thing as much as straight pickmes too, so it's not like this is unique to yurifags. Another thing is that many women feel like they have to consume any kind of media they can find that has a crumb of what they actually like. This happens with many who aren't fujos so they start reading hentai instead. Or with women into femdom who consume scrote media at first because they don't know where to find something better, or because female-oriented media with those themes/fetishes is extremely rare. Many of them end up going down the pickme pipeline and eventually start developing more scrotey tastes. Some of them can recover from that and become based though, but a lack of media that actually caters to them as women makes this more difficult.
>mentions Hazbin as one of the cartoons with a lesbian couple to prove her point
>mentions Hazbin again to prove that fujos get nothing
You do know that one of the common complaints about Hazbin is that it focuses too much on the male gay characters and fujo ships to the detriment of the plot, right?
>he problem is that yuritards are always complaining that there isnt enough yuri content and constantly pick up fight with straight women who make their own f/m m/m content
I haven't seen them much lately, maybe because I don't go into most shit threads and I usually ignore obvious infight bait like that. And it seems pretty obvious that the people who are constantly fighting over such dumb shit (from any side) are just a handful of obsessed autists who frequent the same threads and always participate in their own infights because they are addicted to the adrenaline they get from getting mad. Just because some yurifags shit on non-yurifags or accuse them of misogyny for not liking yuri, doesn't mean all the yuri fans on the site are them. The normal lesbians on this site that like yuri/GL/femslash mostly keep to themselves and pop up at random times talking about their favorite ships/waifus which is normal imageboard user behavior. I hate the annoying fujos who shit on or resent other women for the dumbest reasons, but I don't hate all fujos for it because I know they're not all the same people and there's fujos who are ashamed of being in the same group with underage retards. Use your head a little.
>You dont get to complain and constantly shit on other women when you are the only ones that are at the top of the shipping food chain.
I said at the beginning that I'm not a yurifag.
Yurifags are a minority in female fandom. Fujos are by far the majority, and gay ships are almost always the most popular, so they're actually the ones at the top of the "shipping food chain". You're only focusing on the canon part of it. (No, I'm not saying fujos/yumes/hetshippers should create content they have no interest in, before you put words in my mouth. None of what I've said implies that.)

No. 2429247

>>2429091
>have suspiciously the exact same political beliefs as the person?
KEKKKKK this shit really is the biggest giveaway. I don't believe systems who don't have at least one TERF alter.

No. 2429274

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The outfits can be reworked I think. But I do not understand this fandom's obsession with hitting as far off the mark with the skincolor as possible.

No. 2429276

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>>2429274
That's just tumblr in general.

No. 2429281

>>2429166
>>2428054
You nonas are being civil, but this is trending dangerously close to yaoi sperg territory kek

No. 2429289

>>2428695
what do you guys even want then? I wish there was a BL thats ''''slop''''' like meguka or the new yuri gundam. Because i am so tired of having to scratch the bottom of the barrel to try and find a remotely interesting anime with two guys i can ship. I cannot imagine being hand held by media so hard and still not being happy with it while all the other shippers are fucking resorting to shit written by neil gayman for slash couples.

No. 2429291

>>2429274
I don't think it's bad for people to reimagine the characters of something to look more like their own race, but it literally just looks like they have a tan. There are so many cute black hair styles they could've used for Roll and black Rock is just begging for an afro or stylized dreads. It just comes off as incredibly virtue signally when they only change the skin and nothing else.

No. 2429292

>>2429274
just make ocs at this point

No. 2429296

>>2428324
I think a lot of these people can't bear to be in anything but 'current' fandoms, they'd do well engaging with older work and reading older fanfic and continuing to actively contribute to it. Also they need to leave actual comments. Readers used to comment more.

No. 2429302

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>>2429289
>I was there was BL like the new yuri gundam
I mean. There's Promare kek

No. 2429304

>>2429302
is it canon or just fujobait

No. 2429307

>>2429304
NTAYRT but they kissed, still more bait than full on fujo though.

No. 2429312

>>2429304
I'd say it's a YOI situation, where it's about as gay as it could possibly be without being literal BL.

No. 2429313

>>2429307
So, just fujobait then. Still waiting for the day we get something similar to nanoha or madoka. The closest we will ever get is YOI, and despite being incredibly popular the movie still got cancelled. Why cant yurifags be happy with all the stuff they get. The only thing i respect from yuripedo is that she never complains that there isnt enough yurishit and seems to appreciate the genre genuinely instead of making excuses about it.

No. 2429314

>>2429312
>>2429307
Wasn't it just CPR? I watched it and felt extremely disappointed when it was hyped up to be this big gay thing.

No. 2429316

>>2429313
Just watch it yourself jfc. If you're a fujo I guarantee you, you'll enjoy Promare. Sick of people demanding to be spoonfed opinions on shit they'd never seen instead of just watching it themselves.

No. 2429318

>>2429316
nein, i dont like how the characters look, and like anons said its just fujobait. I would rather just rewatch gundam wings at that point.

No. 2429319

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>>2429314
It's pretty much framed like a kiss instead of CPR (in the same way stuff like Snow White is), down to Lio having sleeping beauty eyes when he wakes up.

No. 2429323

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>>2429319
Compare this to a CPR scene where it's not meant to be romantic in tone, it's all in the framing.

No. 2429324

>>2429319
The mohawk guy is hideous.

No. 2429325

>>2429318
>complains about a lack of thing
>"hey anon here's an example of the thing"
>"reee no not good enough"
Looks like we found something fujos and himes have in common

No. 2429326

>>2429276
>filename
Alright, who is it?

No. 2429327

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>>2429324
Yeaaah I like Lio's design but Galo ugly as hell, was pretty meh on the ship because of that but I can't deny the kiss is kinda pretty looking.
Sometimes the uke just has a really ugly seme and vice versa.
>>2429326
Nagito Komaeda

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No. 2429332

>>2429327
Let's see how long it takes for someone to say that this character is "basically a child" or "basically a woman."

No. 2429333

>>2429325
How is one shitty movie with a fujobait kiss comparable to an entire season of canon yurishit? retard.

No. 2429335

>>2429319
>>2429323
I'll be honest, it just really didn't feel that way to me. Galo tried everything possible before resorting to CPR and framed in a "I have no other choice" type of way. There's the "for the first time in my life… bleh… I lit a fire!!!" bait, but it's extremely unromantic. Lio's eyes don't even look sleeping beauty esque, he's just tired after going through something so horrible. I typically eat up both yuribait and fujobait as a local bishitter, but my gaydar was not set off here at all. Lio is a twink who takes it up the ass for sure, but Galo just feels way too retarded for romance.

No. 2429336

>>2429335
Idk a lot of the songs have romantic-sounding lyrics, especially the ones used in scenes with the male leads.

No. 2429338

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>>2429335
I don't really ship them so I get it, I also just think the scene itself was pretty clearly framed in a romantic sense over 'it was just CPR'
A lot of the official merch+art also has a romantic vibe to it.

No. 2429340

>>2429333
Nta but I'm willing to bet the "full season of yurishit" in a Gundam anime is male gaze as fuck. I doubt yuri fans actually want to see a couple of uguu moeblobs rubbing their tits together or patting each other's heads or whatever other absurd shit female characters do in f/f shit made for moids.

No. 2429341

>>2429289
i wish that clamp would make a big comeback and give us some more BL shit in every form, but i guess there is a decent amount of BL slop in japan but it just doesn't get popular/get translated for english audiences.

No. 2429342

>>2429313
Nanoha and Madoka are for scrotes (regardless of how many women found Madoka watchable enough to love it). The anime industry is almost completely controlled by moids. The anime industry has also been infested with misogynistic pedophiles (lolicons) since ancient times. The scrotes that approved, funded and made Nanoha and Madoka were not pandering to lesbian women. Women liking Madoka is just a side effect, or an successful deliberate attempt at capturing a periphery demographic at best.When will you finally get it?

And perhaps fujos are too comfortable with their original manga/games and fan fiction/fan art of non-fujo franchises to see the need to start their own anime studio. Besides, anime is considerably harder to make than manga, fanfic, fanart and even simple games like VNs or RPGs. You won't achieve anything by yelling at women who like yuri on some obscure western forum. This is a problem that affects us all.

No. 2429343

>>2429338
Also pink triangles visually indicating the "outsider" burnish characters and being associated with Lio in particular. The filmmakers weren't retarded, they knew what they were doing.

No. 2429344

>>2429342
>Nanoha and Madoka were not pandering to lesbian women
Yet lesbians absolutely adore Madoka
I think you can make a yuri show that appeals to both men and lesbians but they're pretty uncommon.

No. 2429345

>>2429341
I'm so grateful Ganbare Nakamura Kun is getting an anime adaptation. I think Canis also should have one.

No. 2429346

>>2429340
> I doubt yuri fans actually want to see a couple of uguu moeblobs rubbing their tits together or patting each other's heads or whatever other absurd shit female characters do in f/f shit made for moids.
so what do you want then? you dont want moeshit, you dont want western lesbians, you also dont want masculine butches since yuritards are always complaining that they are ''literally just men!!11!'' so, what the fuck do you ACTUALLY want??

No. 2429347

>>2429344
>Yet lesbians absolutely adore Madoka
I beg you to read what you're replying to before posting because I addressed the fact that Madoka has a lot of female fans (not just lesbians btw) not just once, but TWICE.

No. 2429349

>>2429346
Ntyart and I'm not a hime but I think they just want female characters who act like female human beings and not stereotypes?

No. 2429351

>>2429347
So why does it matter if the writer is a moid if most women love it kek, Urobuchi also wrote thunderbolt fantasy which is like entirely fujo fandom wise.

No. 2429352

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>>2429342
>The scrotes that approved, funded and made Nanoha and Madoka were not pandering to lesbian women
can yuritards then please give examples of what they want, because you fuckers seem to complain about every medium that panders to you. Even 3DPD shows pander to you with stuff like orange is the new black(which is something you will probably have a problem with too). Meanwhile all fujos get is shows with unsexy walled men.
>>2429349
and what does that mean? can you give examples. Because its insane to me that yuritards have a problem with literally EVERY SINGLE depiction of lesbians in media. Its just never good enough for them.

No. 2429353

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>>2429349
>Anime
>Characters who act like human beings

No. 2429355

>>2429353
Kek yeah maybe anime isn't the best place to find "representation" of any kind.

No. 2429356

>>2429349
there are a lot of great lesbian films from all over the world.

No. 2429358

>>2429356
we watch cartoons in this thread

No. 2429360

Can't lie most yuri fans have pretty basic taste and just ship the same couple of ships
>Haruka and Michiru
>Homura and Madoka
>Utena and Anthy
>Harley and Ivy
>Gundam chicks
>Bubblegum and Marceline
>A Steven Universe ship
I feel like fujos are more likely to ship crazy shit.

No. 2429361

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>>2429352
I don't care for Hannibal or any of the Superwholock trash, but as someone who enjoys Black Sails and AMC IWTV, I admit to enabling the problem of "m/m shows with unsexy walled men." I'm NGMI, I'm too easily memed by characters' personalities and forget that they look like shit.

No. 2429362

>>2429356
No, they want animu with realistic woman representation(whatever that means) but they cannot be too masculine because then they are just spicy straight or too moe and girly because then its pedoshit.

No. 2429364

>>2429361
I am the same but i refuse to get myself fujobaited by 3DPD scrotes. If the actresses from Orange is the new black can kiss and have pretend sex despite being heterosexual irl then those scrotes owe me a kiss on the lips too. I am so tired of western shows trying to fujobait to squish the cents of hard working fujos when they cant even fully commit to it by having the scrotes kiss or some shit, because god forbid male actors are put in uncomfortable situations oh no, the poow babies.

No. 2429365

>>2429364
Jsyk the two latter examples I gave had canonically gay/bisexual main characters and onscreen gay kisses. I'm not one of the tards who got baited by SPN kek.

No. 2429366

>>2429360
All of those are canon though. Most fujos ship noncanon ships like Spirk because very few shows pander to fujos. The only ones are southpark and a few 3DPD shows, but in the 3DPD shows they literally NEVER commit to it. Even in supernatural they dont kiss, its just a stupid confession.

No. 2429370

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>>2429366
Still can't get over the fact that South Park went as far as it did with this kek

No. 2429372

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>>2429366
That's what I'm saying, yuri fans usually go for canon or heavily implied to be canon ships while it's kinda up in the air with fujos.
Don't really care about 3DPD shows though (I mostly watch reality TV for live action) so I can't say much there.

No. 2429379

>Google "yuri anime announced 2025", no sequels
>I Want to Love You Till Your Dying Day
>Roll Over and Die: I Will Fight for an Ordinary Life with My Love and Cursed Sword!
>The Guy She Was Interested in Wasn’t a Guy at all
>BADGIRL
>Ninkoro
>Rock is a Lady's Modesty
>This Monster Wants to Eat Me
>The Moon on a Rainy Day
>There’s No Freaking Way I’ll Become Your Lover! Unless…
>Flowers and Asura
Are all of these really that bad?

No. 2429380

>>2429302
There's also Bravern though most here really hate it.

No. 2429382

>>2429380
I like bravern himself but the rest of that anime was pretty shit not gonna lie…

No. 2429384

>>2429382
Tbh I just think it'd be dishonest not bring it up because despite its lolcow unpopularity it's still pretty popular with Japanese fujo.

No. 2429385

>>2429379
Yuritards just want to complain and play the victims.

No. 2429404

>>2429360
>>2429366
>>2429372
I don't wanna say skill issue but at the same time it kind of is. Lots of fujos are genuinely happy with their crumbs of fujobait so maybe yuri fans need to learn to make do the same way if they don't like what yuri is being produced and if they don't want to make their own content.

No. 2429405

>>2429379
It'll just be the same complaints of moeshit art style, male gaze, coomer, high school setting, lame, etc

No. 2429408

>>2429379
>>2429385
I also tried to find bl anime announced
>Other World's Books depend on the Bean Counter
>Gambatte Nakamura-kun
>Unexpectedly Naughty Fukami
And basically counted fujobait
>Captivated by You
>Summer Hikaru Died
>Let's Go Karoke
>Gentle Noble's Vacation Suggestion

No. 2429411

>>2429408
>Summer Hikaru Died
Doesn't count, she openly ditched fujos.

No. 2429412

>>2429411
That's why I said "basically counted fujobait" nonnie. Whether she likes it or not, that's what it's known as.

No. 2429414

Yurifags here should just get into baihe, it'll probably be up most people's alleys
>majority female-authored works
>adult women
>non-moe art styles
>>2429411
She traded in fujos for aroaces kek

No. 2429421

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No. 2429427

>>2429414
The power of 7 million Chinese lesbians

Also isn't Thai GL supposed to be pretty good?

No. 2429431

>>2429421
????
Dick Grayson is a man. And just because he's of gypsy descent doesn't mean he's brown

No. 2429433

>>2429431
According to tumblr he's agp.

No. 2429438

>>2429427
>Also isn't Thai GL supposed to be pretty good?
Apparently so but I haven't watched any myself. Not sure why himejos don't branch out if they don't like JPshit, webtoons are trashy so I understand not caring about those but China and Thailand seem to have everything they want including masc/andro women and decent writing

No. 2429457

>>2429421
Reading their conclusion felt like getting a pie to the face kek

No. 2429461

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>>2429345
Can't wait to see this scene animated.

>>2428623
>>2428605
Loving this.

>>2428560
We need to sperg in the >>>/m/462640 thread.

>>2429380
I haven't noticed any Bravern hate on LC? I still love it, even got used to the loli's screeches.

No. 2429464

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>>2429457
The tags are pretty funny too

No. 2429466

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>>2429461
>Loving this.
Weirdly it's one of the only times a Ryukishi work actually had fujo stuff, usually he has to add in some gendie element for some reason?

No. 2429682

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>>2429276
Is that a custom nendoroid faceplate draft? it's so fucking asymmetrical the ear is sliding off, how do you draw a line down the center and still fuck that up.

No. 2429737

>>2429274
at this point, I think its a fetish (not a sexual one but you get my drift)

No. 2429739

>>2429101
i mean, i'll give this to them. if you're seriously kinning characters after the age of 18, you probably do have some form of mental illness

No. 2429745

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Took long enough, but I think tumblr fandom rules are finally getting pushed out of fandom for real. Everybody's sick of their shit kek

No. 2429761

>>2429682
I didn’t draw it kek, but yes it is a custom nendoroid faceplate.

No. 2429765

>>2429292
Kekkk.

>>2429274
It always looks bad too. I dont care what anyone says. It looks like shit. I hate this kind of fanart

No. 2429770

>>2429745
What is this in reference to?

No. 2429800

>>2429745
>muhhh kweer representation
God these people are so annoying

No. 2429807

>>2429745
Straight women shitting on straight women.

No. 2429907

>>2429745
>3rd tweet
I'd agree if she said fandom has always had fag ships but she's making it about fandomtards themselves so she's contributing to the growing retardation in fandoms just as much as militant hetfags in my eyes.

No. 2429962

>>2429745
Either this is specific to the Arcane fandom, or these people are making shit up. I haven't seen any kind of concerted effort to reduce slash shipping.

No. 2429982

>>2429770
>>2429962
I like watching the arcane fandom implode on the clock every 2 weeks so I'll cut you the retarded details: VAs and writers did an interview a few days back and confirmed/reaffirmed/denied some things. So the straight women with he/him pronouns got really mad that the straight women with she/her and she/they pronouns started laughing at them for being autistic 30 year old fandom elders (there's that retard signifier again), with an extra racial aspect too because a lot of Mel fans are also black women.
>I haven't seen any kind of concerted effort to reduce slash shipping.
It really doesn't matter. It's the classic word of god manufactured shipping war because they're desperate for something that will allow them to finally harass the tumblr spicy straights back and vice versa. Every single one of these retards is head over heels for trans Viktor anyway, because they want to self insert onto a small woman with a pussy despite wanting to brag about how much "they just don't enjoy het ships"

Every time you read something about muh kweer fandom space the answer is always straight woman on straight woman violence kek

No. 2430033

Stupid question probably but what is a "meal replacement" in fandom context?

No. 2430111

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I kinda like some coomer games/anime with women with big boobs. To be clear: nothing fully R18, more stuff you'll see in the mainstream (think how Zenless Zone Zero gets called a "gooner game", gross).

Then I see the subreddits for that stuff and I want to jump out of my skin from the absolutely rancid discussions those gooners have. They hate real women and any content targeted at us, if a game has male and female playable characters and fans, they will treat the female fans like shit and hate on the male characters. They want lolicon and screech when an official discord bans it. If a game isn't 100% coomer targeted, the asian incels call them "mixed toilet" and they actively want to chase women out.

They scream and cry over Love and Deepspace having some shirtless men while games like Destiny Child, Horizon Walker, Nikke, Brown Dust 2 etc. exist and have ridiculous women in the skimpiest outfits possible with subservient poses.
That makes me snap back to reality and avoid all that shit.

No. 2430145

>>2430111
>Women consuming coom: LADS man is hot
>Scrotes and pickmes consuming coom: LMAO FEMOIDS BTFO, 3DPD can't handle it!! Femoids hate seeing us having fun, look at us having sooo much fun, I bet they're SEETHING, FEMINAZIS ARE YOU TRIGGERED YET?!?! Sorry you're MISSING OUT and CUCKED! Now time to write 50 billion tweets about how I totally don't think about real women at all

No. 2430172

>>2427309
Fujo tardlets have understood how to make interesting dynamics based on friendship, comradery, competition, etc. but every yuri story is about some random petite girl who finds another random petite girl and they fall in love with zero conflict because the primary consumers of yuri are moids

And every time they try to branch out from this they make some shit that sucks, so nobody cares and then they complain on twitter about it. I wish they would just accept it will never have mass appeal.

No. 2430179

>>2430111
Tbh its those moid communities that blackpilled me hard and I havent seen media with primarily animu girls the same since. I am not the target audience and these subhumans werent enjoying media in the same way as me.

No. 2430191

>>2430111
>man play gachaslop games because they want to be loved!
>but woman play otome games because they can't find a real man!

No. 2430196

>>2430172
It makes me sad that most yuri is basically just a coffee shop AU for men kek

No. 2430218

>>2430111
They talk about how there should only be manly male characters and that pretty male characters shouldn't exist because they appeal to women.

No. 2430248

>>2430172
honestly this. yuri is just boring in comparison with little room for anything else. with yaoi, yeah its trashy at times, but there's room for experimentation. If I want to read a yaoi with a cannibal serial killer that happens to be a bottom i can find it, but if your yuri pairing isn't Nana Komatsu/Nana Osaki, or Homura/Madoka i'm uninterested because its always the same "pretty thin teenage girl falls in love with other pretty thin teenage girl and they live happily ever after with no downsides at all". I can find a woman in real life to have a healthy romance with without having to waste my time reading/watching it. give me some fucking seasoning/spice in my meal please.

No. 2430254

>>2430248
There's Satou and Shio, but that might be a bit too spicy.

No. 2430300

>>2430248
I'm not even as much of a yurifaggot as I am a fujo but you guys just aren't looking hard enough (or at all). Yuri is a lot more varied nowadays, there's works like Love Thy Neighbour, Opium, My Girlfriend’s Not Here Today, etc. that aren't uguu schoolgirls at your disposal; saying this is like saying all BL is office worker shit.

No. 2430337

>>2429982
You're the anon described in >>2428807 aren't you kek

No. 2430347

>straight woman doesn't like female fanservice but likes male fanservice
>pickme: WHY ARE YOU SUCH A HYPOCRITE
Why is this behavior unacceptable when women do it but it's fine for moids to seethe about male fanservice in media that isn't aimed at them?

No. 2430350

>>2430337
I don't think you read her post.

No. 2430353

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>>2430347
Nonnie, were you just in the joseimuke thread on 4chan? Kek, a pick-me there just acted the same way defending this.

No. 2430355

>>2430353
This is not how human beings move or behave

No. 2430373

>>2430300
Can’t you make the exact same argument about yaoi? Look harder, find a handful of obscure works that are actually good, and there we go. Yuri vs yaoi war is over.

No. 2430379

>>2430353
KEKKK I was, that was the post I was talking about.

No. 2430382

>>2430353
Is she being fucking electrocuted CIA style?

No. 2430384

>>2430353
>Running your feet on a carpet be like.

No. 2430406

>>2430382
I thought she was being poked or tickled. And at one point they put a random suction cup on her buttcheek? The fuck is that all about? This seriously feels like it was made by aliens trying to imitate human porn without fully understanding how it works.

No. 2430422

>>2430353
I like how the closest equivalent to this on male fanservice would be the whb secret club scenes down to the feet shots

No. 2430435

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>>2429361
Black Sails had it all man… Because of all the rape in season 1 I can never talk to people about it in good faith. Curse HBO and GOT.

No. 2430442

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>>2430406
The game is called Brown Dust 2 and is rated teen on the playstore. I feel like I have to apologize for posting extreme cringe like this, but the game has worse content.

No. 2430449

>>2430422
This is finally something that panders to my taste, but I kind of just don't feel like playing fanservice or dating games. I need to have a good story and gameplay to be invested. Same issue with LADS, there isn't much to do and the main story segments are really short when I could just read a long fanfic delving into the characters mind and feelings instead.

No. 2430457

>>2430449
I don't care. Life's too short for me to pander on mid ass gacha stories might to coerce me into spending. At least the men are hot.

No. 2430492

>>2430422
is the writing any better than loveunholyc? or at least doesn't have any bratty rivals? it was way too wattpad and ragebait for my tastes

No. 2430509

>>2430300
The issue is that a lot of women in fandom and basically all tims in fandom have some type of moral superiority complex so if yuri goes anything beyond just women being pure beings whose darkest thought is maybe being a little bit yandere for their lover, then they have a meltdown and shame each other. Fujos have been doing this since before most of us in this thread were born so they're a lot more hardened up to it.

No. 2430513

>>2430353
If that anon isnt a pickme then its definitely a bi moid

No. 2430517

>>2430442
I thought this was one of those trashy hentai games you'd find on erolabs, you can get it on the playstore?

No. 2430546

>>2430442
The playstore??? So stupid games like sakura simulator have to be censored for violence, but this gets to stay up??

No. 2430562

>>2425128
> a small artist from my country killed herself over a twitter callout
Bullshit. Post obituary/death certificates or it didn’t happen.

No. 2430782

>>2430509
I agree yurifags moralfag about anything that isn't wholesome fluff 100x more than fujos but I don't really see what that has to do with my reply. I'm just talking about the existence of darker works to begin with, anons on here act like GL is perpetually stuck in Class S era which isn't true. If it was about being dissuaded from yuri spaces because of these retards then sure (I don't bother with them either) but that doesn't preclude you from scrolling to at least page 2 on yuri sites to see that there's more to offer than high school shit.

Imo anons here are too copey about it I think most are just uninterested in yuri altogether which is fine, but they make out their disinterest to be an inherent problem with the entire genre instead of just going "it's not my thing". This isn't a non-himejo thing either even yurifag anons upthread were acting like this.

No. 2430946

>>2429340
>I doubt yuri fans actually want to see a couple of uguu moeblobs rubbing their tits together or patting each other's heads
that’s just what yuri is though
>>2430248
yellowjackets has cannibal lesbians
>>2430782
>they make out their disinterest to be an inherent problem with the entire genre
it’s kinda funny how many people do this without realizing

No. 2431238

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>>2430517
>>2430546
The moids are also having a meltdown on reddit because the official discord banned lolicon. It has some really degen loli characters.

At launch this game had male characters too and was less coomerish, but then they gave up and fully tried to capture the gooner audience with fetish art.

No. 2431260

Why is modern western cosplay so fucking bad nowadays? eastern cosplay looks pretty plastic nowadays but at least they hire actual photographers to take nice and creative photos.

No. 2431265

>>2430562
nta but the family and her university posted their orbituaries.

No. 2431307

>>2431265
Then can you post those obituaries?

No. 2431312

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No. 2431489

>>2431238
which is weird when discord is a safe haven for groomers and other degens

No. 2431506

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>>2430248
>HachiNana is an example of a good yuri ship
I am not even the biggest yurifag, but this is like saying Nardo is the greatest anime ever made. I seriously doubt that anyone outside of "comphet" lesbians on tikTok and shitter sees them as a yuri ship.

No. 2431608

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>>2430248
speaking of yuri. Asagao to Kase-san was so fucking boring that i didn't even finished the movie. It's just uguuu so kawaii mentally challenged girls who are pure and can do no wrong!

No. 2431609

>>2431608
then find different yuri instead of basing all your opinion on one anime?

No. 2431616

>>2431506
15 years ago when my friends and I were into either the manga or the anime in high school we lowkey shipped nana/hachi mostly because all the men around them were either evil, retarded or both so we decided that they would be better off just dating each other at this point. Is that not why zoomers like this pairing?

No. 2431632

>>2431608
Agreed but the backgrounds were so pretty.

No. 2431672

>>2431616
Ahaha it was very much the opposite in my friend circle. Hachi is certainly one of the best-written shojosei FLs, and we all adored her complex relationship with Nana, but as a romantic partner, she seems like the kind of person who would always prioritize trash men over women.
>Is that not why zoomers like this pairing?
Pretty much. Younger women who have been taken advantage of by scummy men and are now convinced that they must be repressed lesbians tend to project a lot onto Hachi. They believe that Hachi only dates men because of societal norms and not out of genuine affection. They see two women who share a strong emotional bond while having physical relationships with men and men alone as comphet lesbians. To me, this line of thinking is just very iffy.

No. 2431756

>>2431609
You’re jumping to conclusions. It’s a boring ass show that gets overly hyped by the fandom, let her complain.
>>2431506
There are zero lesbians in Ai Yazawa manga, these people are just incapable of enjoying the well written romance in her manga. It makes way more sense to lament that there’s no yuri equivalent of Nana than to project yuri that’s not there…

No. 2431777

>>2431609
Upcoming shows have been posted >>2429379

No. 2431789

>>2431672
>They see two women who share a strong emotional bond while having physical relationships with men and men alone as comphet lesbians. To me, this line of thinking is just very iffy.
It's weird because the conclusion is the same but not the reasoning behind it. Back when Nana wasn't on hiatus yet my god I feel like a dinosaur typing this girls who shipped nana/hachi thought "their lives would have been better if they were lesbians and dating each other", which implies we acknowledged they were straight women. But the comp het excuse is the opposite of that.

>Hachi is certainly one of the best-written shojosei FLs, and we all adored her complex relationship with Nana, but as a romantic partner, she seems like the kind of person who would always prioritize trash men over women.

I started reading Nana again because of nostalgia and because the publishing company in my country finally reprinted all the volumes again and now that I'm a grown woman and not a teenager anymore Hachi reminds me way too much of some male centered straight girls I've met as soon as I turned into an adult. I'm straight and didn't know what I wanted in life but I was never like that, and seeing that Hachi's behavior is not even explained by some tragic backstory like Nana's and is actually something a lot of equally normal women are like irl made her a lot less endearing to me. She's still a fashion icon though, I can't totally hate her just for that.

No. 2431837

>>2431260
It went from being a thing geeks did for fun to a way for plastic bippies to get neckbeardbux. Cosplay was ruined when it became a beauty contest between thots who could spend the most money on commissioning costumes from other people.

No. 2431877

>>2431506
>comphet
>one of the main characters is a giga pickme who centers moids
Kek

No. 2431894

>>2431834
Ok smartass, show me some more games targeted at sadistic women that don't like fujo cuckshit.

No. 2431966

>>2429761
I meant "you" as in the person who made it. The mental gymnastics to go from Komaeda's canon design to a brown-washed (?) custom nendoroid baffled me because he already has an official nendoroid and getting faceplates in that color is difficult without using an expensive airbrush or using an already dark-skinned character as a base. Either way it's bizarre kek.

No. 2431999

>>2431506
this is bait, right? I watched this show with my normie friends and even they wondered why they didn't just date each other instead of going for the awful moids they had.

No. 2432005

>>2429379
how many of these shows are teenage girls in highschool? lol

No. 2432027

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It pisses me off how the ''Western animation'' fandom revolves purely around coom and shit made for toddlers. They always complain about animation being seen as a medium for children and not being taken seriously as an art form but they refuse to watch anything not made by cartoon network or disney. So many cool shows meant for adults(actual adults, not man/womanchildren) get overlooked because these faggots are more concerned about hyping the latest 3D disney slop with its 24th background lesbian they can easily cut out of international releases. Most of these manchildren dont even know who Ralph Bakshi is and refuse to get out of their comfort zone and watch ''ugly'' stuff like 'Memoirs of a Snail'. No wonder every modern indie pilot looks like every modern calarts-approved blobby safe style put in a blender with a bit of mainstream anime added to the mix.

No. 2432043

>>2432027
It depends, I think that people who like animated movies and people who are in CN and disney animated show fandoms actually don't have a lot of overlap or shared interests, actually. People who like Time Masters or the Peasants probably aren't looking for the same thing from animation as someone who is into Teen Titans and Wonder Over Yonder.

No. 2432046

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>>2431312
This feels very inorganic to me. Maybe she asked her family to post these to dodge some sort of heat? Hide her identity from the internet? I just don’t believe that if she took her own life it was solely due to what happened with her twitter account.

No. 2432048

>>2432043
I know but it pisses me off that they always claim to be fans of western animation, when truly they are just manchildren into cartoons for babies.

No. 2432050

>>2432046
Anon, she was a mentally ill simp. Her twitter account is literally dedicated to this one vtuber she was simping HARD for. The vtuber cut ties with her and deleted all her art from his channel. She even had a husbando shrine dedicated to him. She was a lunatic.

No. 2432055

>>2432027
You’re wondering why the people whose lives revolve around children’s entertainment, are acting like children. Answered your question within the question.

No. 2432060

>>2432055
Kek. True, but they could watch something for (cooler)manchildren, like Heavy Metal or Venture Bros. Why obsessed over garbage like The Owl House. They all also deep throat lore-heavy cartoons like Avatar, but refuse to watch more stuff like it made for older audiences. They are just cringe, i just wish they would stop calling themselves animation fans and complaining about how animation projects keep getting cut when they are the ones that refuse to give a chance to more niche projects in favour of disneyslop.

No. 2432063

>>2432050
Is there somewhere that delves more about her escapades in detail, in English perhaps? I wonder how her mental health/living situation contributed to this.

No. 2432071

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>>2432060
I agree with you but heavy metal is actual ass. Or maybe I just hate this trope so much I can't enjoy anything with it.

No. 2432077

>>2432071
I am a simple woman i like cool edgy animation and dark fantasy, shrimple ass. Wish there were more fantasy movies done during that time. Modern fantasy is so lame looking. I will take the furkinis and bikini armours over the soulles crap we have now, any day.

No. 2432078

>>2432063
There are videos about it but they are all in spanish. Maybe they have auto-translated subs. vidrel was made before she killed herself. Funfact i actually knew the rapist scrote she was friends with and that raped the tranny, he actually told me about the rape, albeit obviously told me it was concensual and i was 14 so i didnt look too much into it. Insane how small the world is.

No. 2432081

>>2432077
>shrimple ass
What? Im kind of envious of you though, I love older fantasy as well but I cannot stand furkinis or bikini armor.

No. 2432085

>>2432050
>vtuber
was it a nijisanji guy or something? those guys usually have the nuttiest fans

No. 2432086

>>2432060
Introducing cool complex stuff to utter retards is a big fucking mistake, that’s how you breed posers. don’t give them peak. let them reincarnate in retard samsara where the media literacy level is capped forever at Steven Universe until the very last star burns out.

No. 2432087

>>2432081
>I love older fantasy as well but I cannot stand furkinis or bikini armor.
I love kitsch concepts, its my biggest fault as a woman. You should watch record of lodoss war, it surprisingly less coomery than western dark fantasy despite being anime.

No. 2432090

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>>2432085
Worse. It was this ugly faggot that covers lolcow drama and is in his 40s.

No. 2432092

>>2431238
Oh wait, is this the game that publicly announced it would no longer release male characters? I'm curious if that even did it any favors

No. 2432095

>>2432090
lmfao I’m sorry WHAT?? Thats the lowest tier of commentator, equivalent of being the fucking garbage man.

No. 2432098

>>2432090
I will never understand women who watch male vtumors. There's a fugly scrote behind that 2d avatar.

No. 2432101

>>2432098
Same, I had a friend who regularly donated hundreds of dollars to one but only did it when everyone else was because she'd be 'interrupting' otherwise or some shit kek.

No. 2432107

File: 1741298553554.png (Spoiler Image,11.16 MB, 3481x3190, mento illness dear lord.png)

>>2432095
She drew tons of nasty nsfw of him. Her art oozees mento illness she should have been thrown to the looney bin before to prevent this obvioust outcome. She made sock puppets to harass and alog another female artist because she had beef with this vtuber she was obsessed. The most mentally ill pickme fangirl i have ever heard of.

No. 2432120

>>2425152
It went beyond fandom drama. The community she was part of (doomposting) is one of the worst ones in all of LatAm, this was bound to happen one way or another. She was retarded, but everyone there sucks. That community has enough drama to sustain a whole thread.
>>2432098
>>2432090
This pathetic faggot supposedly studied medicine kek
Worst part is most of his donors are male dramafags

No. 2432127

>>2432107
I wish I never opened this

No. 2432132

File: 1741299343427.png (Spoiler Image,13.82 MB, 2332x3271, el jerry mamado.png)

>>2432127
Here is another drawing that was part of her husbando shrine. She lived with her parents btw this was hanging on her room. She somehow managed to make something pure like husbando shrines cringe and annoying.

No. 2432136

>>2432132
I kind of like this in a disgusting, schizophrenic, outsider art way.

No. 2432139

>>2432136
I agree her art was good tbh, her trad art at least. Its a shame she became obsessed with a 3DPD and not a 2D husbando. Notice how no woman ever has killed herself because of a 2D husbando. 2D husbandos save lifes.

No. 2432159

>>2432132
All that schizoing only for the moid to ditch her in order to save his ass.
>>2432139
>>2432136
Exactly, she could've been hiperfixated on some pathetic fictional husbando instead, like The Riddler or Kylo Ren. What a waste of mental illness

No. 2432171

>>2432159
>All that schizoing only for the moid to ditch her in order to save his ass.
Worse. He was on her side at first, but some of his fans turned on him so he threw her under the bus last moment to save face. She drove some random girl into suicide for this scrote and he threw her under the bus lmao. Pickmes never win.

No. 2432211

>>2432171
Didn't he also say in a recent stream that he still feels he was justified in dropping her, because otherwise he would come off as a hypocrite to his followers? Kek what a retard. He also said she didn't deserve this amount of vitriol, and yet he didn't defend her while she was still alive. It's been interesting watching a lot of YouTubers that criticized her suddenly go "I didn't know this could happen I swear please don't cancel me!"

No. 2432255

>>2432211
Yeah. He made a whole video justifying himself and blaming the guys that were ''harassing''(pointing out her hypocrisy) her. When he made a living and online ''career'' out of doing the same thing.

No. 2432257

>>2432120
>The community she was part of (doomposting) is one of the worst ones in all of LatAm
Can someone explain what doomposting is? I tried reading the kf thread but my Spanish is worst than I thought

No. 2432286

>>2432257
kf thread link?

No. 2432292

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>>2432071
Taarna is one of my favorite fictional characters idgaf coombait. I’ve never encountered a stoic female lead like her in any other piece of media. Tragic.

No. 2432309


No. 2432327

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>>2432292
There's some cool stoic female characters out there if you look, Ginny from Pretty Deadly is one of my faves. I do wish we had some more classic fantasy cartoons instead of the new age of fantasy, I hate the sort of modern-esque 'tacti-cool' designs and Adventure Zone like personalities. There's so many cool fantasy stories to choose from, maybe an animated Fafhrd and Gray Mouser series or Elric of Melniboné.

No. 2432340

>>2432292
Same. She was so cool she even made the nudity look cool. It helps that she virtually has 0 coomer fans and almost no one remembers her. Probably because her gigastacy jaw scares the average pedophilic cartoon porn masturbator.

No. 2432365

>>2432327
>Elric of Melniboné
Isn’t Michael Moorcock schizo about his IP being used for anything except comics? Makes me wonder how the copyright will hold up after his death.

No. 2432579

>>2432098
Wanna see how hard I can cringe? This video by an actually schlubby guy

No. 2432596

>>2432027
ANIMATION. IS. CINEMA!
>picture of the amazing digital circus
>picture of either amphibia or toh
>picture of either su or craig of the creek
>flavor of the month free space
rinse and repeat

No. 2432652

>>2430406
My theory is that, due to Japan's strict obscenity laws, Jap moids have had to find "workarounds" to get off and that's how they developed such strange fetishes. Lolicon was able to thrive as a porn genre in part because anti-pornography laws at the time (don't know about current laws) explicitly forbade images where pubic hair was shown, and lol, little girls don't have pubic hair. So a lot of otaku fetishes probably developed to get around those laws.

>>2430449
>dating games
Fuck's sake

You will not find a good plot in a gashit game.
If you want a long story with a female protagonist and focus on straight romance/husbandos, play the average otome game.
If you want coom, play WHB or something on that level (BL soshage/gacha/mobage exist that are on that level and worse, if you don't mind BL. Otome never gets that coomer except for a couple of rare cases).
If you want just the romance and cute interactions, play a dating sim or a more complex, not-dating-sim game with dating sim elements like modern Fire Emblem.
If you want good gameplay, don't play otome at all, unless LADS gameplay is engaging enough for you.
But you will never, and I mean NEVER, find all of these things in a single game. It simply doesn't exist. LADS is terribly hindered by being gacha garbage, but unfortunately that's what makes the most money right now.
You say you don't want fanservice (I'm assuming you mean suggestive/erotic content instead of the broader meaning) or "dating games", whatever that means. Well, just play literally any other genre of game that isn't otome or gacha, then.

Sort of unrelated but I swear I do not understand how the fuck gachafags (specifically, Genshitfags who are disappointed in the current state of their game and want to jump ship) are so addicted to the genre and/or fandom that they can't fathom playing anything else, like it's not even an option that crosses their minds. So many of them whine about not having other gacha options with the same level of writing and lore as Genshit. Have they EVER played any other video game in their lives? Have they never heard of The Legend of Zelda? Or are they so close-minded that anything that isn't EXACTLY the same characters and art style as Genshit's but with another name too unfamiliar for them? If what they're addicted to is the fandom, maybe watch anime or something? It's not like non-gacha games don't have huge active fandoms, either. And if what they want is a live service game, there are MMOs. I really think they just want a Genshit recolor and won't accept anything else because the gacha mechanics have irreversibly fried their brains. God I fucking hate gachashit.

>>2430347
>>2430353
Sounds like an absolute newfag because I remember people on 4chan just accepting that shit for moids and shit for women aren't meant to appeal to the other sex, and women sticking to female-oriented stuff is completely normal.

No. 2432659

>>2432652
>My theory is that, due to Japan's strict obscenity laws, Jap moids have had to find "workarounds" to get off and that's how they developed such strange fetishes.
I'm pretty sure the whole "naughty tentacles" trope came to be for this exact reason.

No. 2432668

>>2432132
>>2432107
This would've been so based if it wasn't a real moid and she hadn't been insane. Nemu tier.

>>2432257
I don't remember a lot and I only ever saw what the community was like back in 2017 or around that year, and it was only some glimpses. From my understanding, it's a Facebook(?) community dedicated to the Mexican lolcow Doomentio and those in his circle. I'd say he's like the Mexican Chris Chan in terms of cow status.
But I guess that community got really shitty and milky on its own because people like >>2432120 now talk about it in a negative way. I have no idea what they're doing but I think I can kinda get an idea of what it's like.

>>2431238
>>2430442
I hate how normalized porn is now.

No. 2432669

>>2432652
Gacha games are 'free'. Yeah there's microtransactions and rolling. But you don't have to pay at all to get the story.
So if you're a kid or poorfag that can't afford a Switch or 'real' games like LoZ you're sorta stuck with it.

No. 2432700

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>>2432652
I'm sure you wanted to show off your knowledge, but I'll keep calling them dating games even though I played stuff like Tokimeki Memorial Girl's Side back in the day because it gets to the point.

Gachas/"social games" whatever you want to call them are sadly the front of innovation nowadays in Asia, along with indie games in the west. The media aimed at the shoujo/josei demographic always struggled with misogyny from the producers believing those games have to be simple and easy. I WANT them to be good, but there's only a few gems in a mountain of stuff restricted by the genre.

It keeps surprising moids that women are making doujinshi of media aimed at men, but a good plot will interest everyone. Media in the branch of "fanservice" suffers from getting shit gameplay and generic stories, because the nobody working on it cares about making something subversive or interesting (in most cases).

Which is where we have the moid issue. Fanservice games for men are so common that they need to introduce gameplay and plot elements to stand out, while games aimed at women struggle to get a budget. The problem is sadly on an industry level, where men ignore the success of (speaking of gachaslop) twisted wonderland and enstars, until LADS slaps them in the face by selling more than genshit.

No. 2432713

>>2430562
>>2432046
Anon, for fuck's sake. People all over the world have killed themselves over internet drama for ages.

>>2432081
>What?
NTA but it's a pun on "simple as".

>>2432085
You already got your answer but remember to read the whole chain of replies before asking about things that have already been said >>2425128

No. 2432715

>>2432579
vtubers need to be euthanized and then wiped from the memory of mankind

No. 2432719

>>2432652
>Have they never heard of The Legend of Zelda?
Congratulations, Tears of the Kingdom released in 2023. Of course people are going to discuss live service game while a niche community mods the romhack of OoT for PC to an insane level. I don't play Genshin but why are you surprised it gets discussed the same amount as FFXIV?

No. 2432744

>>2432700
>I'll keep calling them dating games even though I played stuff like Tokimeki Memorial Girl's Side back in the day
Well I'm sorry for the confusion Ms. Oldfag, it's just that back then they were mostly called "dating sims", and these days, and I'd argue even back then, there's many confused newfags to the genre calling any romance game/VN a "dating game" (some people do, some people use it to mean only dating simulation), which is similar to how the term "dating sim" became further muddled by normies who conflated all VNs with dating sims and got this impression from "ironic" VNs. That's why I didn't know what you meant by that, how am I supposed to know someone was actually using the term right for once?
Not replying to the rest of your post because we agree on everything you said.

>>2432719
>Congratulations, Tears of the Kingdom released in 2023.
Yeah, so? If you want to play an open world game, that's an option. If you've already played it, there are other options as well. If the problem is that it's not trendy enough, maybe they should say so and hop on another bandwagon, although that doesn't mean that the Zelda fandom is dead.
>Of course people are going to discuss live service game while a niche community mods the romhack of OoT for PC to an insane level.
There's plenty of game franchises, new and old, that have active fan communities similar to Genshit's, even if not as big, and aren't solely focused on niche nerd shit like making OoT PC mods (not that anything is preventing them from finding stuff like that interesting either. What's wrong with that?). Fan communities with lots of female fans that produce tons of fanart exist outside of Genshit or their gachaslop of choice. What I meant is, if they liked that game so much maybe they'd enjoy something like Zelda, especially BotW and TotK, but that's not the only franchise they can try.
>I don't play Genshin but why are you surprised it gets discussed the same amount as FFXIV?
What? Did I say I'm surprised that Genshit is popular? That's not what I implied at all.

What surprises me is how unwilling to try other games they are because they don't wanna play Genshin anymore due to how bad it's become, but they seem to want the exact same content in terms of things like lore and gameplay. Wanting more of the thing you love, or wanting it to be good again is understandable, but it seems to me they're so close-minded they refuse to give other games or media a chance, and they're missing out on a lot of good games from the past and present because of it. It's not difficult to appreciate different kinds games.

>>2432669
Well, you make a good point. But a lot of these people complaining aren't just adults, but also have decent PCs and did spend money on Genshit monthly, so it's not like they're too poor to buy better games on sale. I think if you truly can't play anything else, you'd be more likely to keep playing the same game, but that's not the sort of player I'm talking about so that's irrelevant. The people I'm talking about absolutely have the means to start playing something else, they just have no idea what or are unwilling to try new things outside of their very small comfort zone.

No. 2432804

>>2432107
>she was 22
She was too far gone already not suprised she killed herself over it. vtuber fans are one of the most parasocial types there are I've seen fans cut themselves over their "oshi" not replying to them

No. 2432865

>>2432090
>simping over an indie male #who tuber
>the moid is a dramafag vtuber at that
oh lordt

No. 2432885

>>2432744
> they just have no idea what or are unwilling to try new things outside of their very small comfort zone.
This is what annoys me the most with genshit fags. They're so unwilling to leave the sinking ship they'd much rather die with it then sea to better shores. Everytime I brought a game with my own money, genshin literally became an afterthought because I was having so much fun with the game. I can't in good will ever return to that slop casino of a game but sadly some people I know will. Believe it or not, genshin was the first game they ever played, Since it doesn't beat you on the head with overly complex mechanics and gameplay anyone can pick it up and try it for themselves. Why would they move from genshin or anything hoyo makes when every other game is "too scary" or "hard". It sucks but normies are just that, normies. Games are a time investment no is willing to do unless you're a literal neet with no job.

No. 2432886

>>2432292
>>2432340
I cannot believe this is the same thread that was moralfagging and throwing poop over an otome game protagonist's barely visible thigh highs

No. 2432887

>>2432886
To be fair I think that was one anon who just hates otome games kek

No. 2432889

>>2432886
That was one anon but there seems to be a bunch of nonnas who really really take issue with anything otome because of [insert radfem reasons here].

No. 2432891

>>2432886
I dont play otomes and i actually defended one of my favourite josei smut authors drawing big titty moefaced waifus because its her work and she can do whatever she wants with it as long as the guys are cute. This board has more than two users.

No. 2432893

>>2432886
One of the ayrt. I don’t like otome because I hate romance idk.

No. 2432895

>>2432893
Not to bother you nonna but why do you hate romance?

No. 2432900

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>>2432885
>This is what annoys me the most with genshit fags. They're so unwilling to leave the sinking ship they'd much rather die with it then sea to better shores.
Picrel is my reaction when Hoyo pulls their usual bullshit and the genshinfags say they're totally going to quit for real this time

No. 2432913

>>2432900
They should've quit a long time ago but they won't kek. Remember when the natlan characters dropped and twitter fags seethed over the designs? I can understand the disappointment but people were making boycott campaigns over a game made to suck all the money and time out of their wallets. Then the next day they're playing the update while drawing shitty dark edits to make themselves feel better.

No. 2432914

>>2432900
The one friend I have who was obsessed with Genshit for years managed to quit cold turkey after whatever scandal happened regarding some new characters' skin color. I think it's because of these new characters has vaguely middle eastern names and costumes but were pale like other characters and she decided the game was too racist for her. I don't care about Genshit and never played it but when I was in a con at the time I saw that the AA was full of fan merchs and I asked who her husbando was so I could get her a keychain and she told me to not even bother, she doesn't like the game anymore. She's obsessed with another online game, I'm sure that helped a lot, I have no idea when was the last time she played a game that had a beginning and an end.

No. 2432950

>>2432914
That actually sucks and she's still self harming her self with live service slop. Just show her a good jrpg and maybe try easing her in?

No. 2432955

>>2432895
Blackpill

No. 2432956

>>2432900
Tbh I like reading the Genshin thread, has an "end of days" sort of vibe.

No. 2432965

>>2432914
Glad she got out but I think many nonas dont want to leave because of sunk cost fallacy (that's why you should always be a f2p in a gacha) but I hope they do that ricel moid doesnt deserve their money and they really should develop a backbone and stop waiting for scraps husbandos

No. 2432967

>>2431894
I also would like to know of some

No. 2432972

>>2432086
The side effect of this is that then these people actually get into the industry and then every single kid's cartoon is made by manchildren with manchildren sensibilities as a focus. I'd rather kids be watching something made by normal people and actually targeted at them.

No. 2432973

>>2432891
>i actually defended one of my favourite josei smut authors drawing big titty moefaced waifus
That's kind of pathetic not gonna lie.

No. 2432977

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>>2432973
Nah she's based.

No. 2432981

>>2432955
It's fiction though? I don't go out of my way reading romance but I don't mind it when it shows up. But it's hard to think about men in a romantic and sexual context when all of them are a bunch of degenerate rapeapes

No. 2433013

Good media for women featuring sexualized men and women that aren't objectified at all doesn't exist. I'd even go as far as to say good media in general for women doesn't exist.

No. 2433020

>>2433008
Herself, she's a shotafag. She made a whole reverse harem manga where her big titty self insert fucks her brother and her two friends. That OC is her self insert, she's constantly taking her custom made dolls of her and the blue demon out for photoshoots.

No. 2433022

Can you faggots not post pedo porn? The degradation of josei into just moid hentai is fucking pathetic

No. 2433024

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>>2433008
why the fuck would you post this.

No. 2433026

>>2432900
The thing is, there aren't a lot of places to migrate to. Fantasy JRPG as a genre is dead as shit and isekai bullshit killed it. Most JRPG themed games are now gachas and due to their microtransaction-based economy and the ongoing gender wars in Asia, they all pander to incels who refuse to play games with male characters in them. Prolific JRPG series like Tales of have been dead for years now, Final Fantasy is just a MMORPG, Fire Emblem hasn't been successful since Three Houses, the Atelier series went full coomery etc… If you're into anime fantasy adventures, Genshin has had a pretty good track record of delivering up until the latest region which was filled with even shittier writing, characters with the charisma of a wet blanket and all this contemporary bullshit like motorbikes and DJs that break the immersion. A lot of genshinfags are holding on to the hope that the next region will fix it all but I jumped ship last October and haven't looked back.

No. 2433030

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>>2433020
she is not a ''shotafag'' she is a pickme who caters to autopedophile men.

If you want to see a real shotafag then go look at the doujin I serve Twin Vampires the male leads are adults, they just have a youthful appearance but you get the point)

No. 2433031

>>2433022
Its not 'josei' its 'teen's love'. TL is a porn genre for women.

No. 2433034

>>2433030
They look ugly and the protagonist is still a big titty moeblob so whats your point kek. They dont even look shota they just look like generic bishies.

No. 2433038

>>2433030
I will never understand why so many Japanese artists do this shit.

No. 2433039

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>>2433008

No. 2433040

>>2433034
>hey dont even look shota they just look like generic bishies.

go and tell that to the retarded bato moderators who take down every comic where the male leads look petite or childish then.

This doujin also has a a second chapter but i won't get to see it due to bato dictator mods.

No. 2433041

>>2433031
The only women who read this moidslop shit are fucking pickmes. Fucking disgusting(infight bait)

No. 2433045

>>2433039
this reaction image could have so many meanings…

No. 2433047

>>2433040
Check e-hentai maybe its uploaded there. I also dont know why you are seething and pitting two queens against eachother. Any woman who puts in the effort to make slop for herself is based in my point. That being said i didnt like the designs or the art so i cant say i like it.

No. 2433048

>>2433030
Most Japanese women are pickme whores who are more or less comfort women who will insert female sexualization into anything, even if it's for our own. Big surprise here.(racebaiting)

No. 2433050

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Shake shake(baiting)

No. 2433119

>call an entire nation of women "whores" and "comfort women" because someone drew porn for money.
Thread really delivers kek(responding to bait)

No. 2433122

>>2433119
racebait is ok as long its towards asian women according to farmers.

No. 2433125

>>2433122
Are you blind? It's redtexted.

No. 2433127

>>2433119
If making pedoshit porn for moid coombux doesnt qualify as being a pickme whore I dont know what else is sorry but your totes "based" artist is a pedo pickme, weebs have skin thinner than the paper walls in Nippon.

No. 2433129

>>2432977
I'd like this better if it were yaoi

No. 2433132

>>2432886
Do you think that every thread is a hivemind?

No. 2433144

>>2433127
I don't care about the artist, I don't care about your retarded spat. Even with the silly idea that drawing for money can count as being a prostitute, calling an entire nation of women "basically comfort women" because someone made a doujin is just hilarious.

No. 2433146

>>2433013
There are tons of great movies and books for women, maybe not with extremely sexualized men but there is a lot of great female media that isn't mainstream.

No. 2433148

>>2433144
Do you know what a hyperbole is

No. 2433171

>>2433148
calling women misogynistic, pornographic insults is bad even when they’re pick-mes

No. 2433177

>>2433171
Do you know where you are

No. 2433181

>>2433177
i don’t give a fuck nigga

No. 2433184

>>2432950
She knows plenty of jrpgs she could like but will never play them. Another friend and I regularly talk about the games we play in out group chat but the ex Genshit fan never wants to try them even if they're available on pc. She doesn't have a Switch so we don't really recommand her Nintendo games but even the 3ds was available and she was gifted one with several games she never touched it. She had FE Awakening, never played it but kept saying she's obessed with Chrom. Go figure.

No. 2433187

>>2433181
>moralfags calling a whore a whore
>immediately types racial slur

No. 2433191

>>2433187
i am half-black, and “nigga” is barely even a slur anymore

No. 2433206

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No. 2433265

>>2432139
2D > 3DPD is the golden rule for all women. i look forward to the day AI chatbots of husbandos can control sex toys, or send gifts.

No. 2433278

>>2433132
Obviously not, Im just shocked the Heavy Metal design didn't attract a horde of poop throwers crying when something extremely tame did. Like where did they go? Got busy with school or something?

No. 2433285

>>2432579
I vomited in my mouth a bit

No. 2433292

>>2432977
I'm glad to see another rifuru nona on lc

No. 2433312

>>2433305
well said nona

No. 2433318

>>2432886
Otomeshit and TLshit are supposed to be for women, Heavy Metal is not. That's why it's disappointing that otome/TL manga is so lame and boring and that the protag is constantly infantilized and condescended to, or even sexualized even when the target audience is female, it's not "moralfagging" to point out obvious hypocrisy and a very real psyop. It's not necessarily for "radfem" reasons either like >>2432889 is implying, god forbid women don't like female characters that are constantly acting or treated as children and pornified. Sometimes some farmers forget that you don't need to be into feminism at all to be uncomfortable with your own sex being portrayed like that and being told that you have to like it in media that was meant for you.
But with moidshit you sort of already know what you're getting into so there's nothing to be disappointed about in the first place. The bar is in hell from the beginning. You already know it's for scrotes and that it's gonna be retarded so, for some people, it's easier to filter out the coom here than in female-oriented media.

Some people prefer being surprised by moidslop than being disappointed by female-oriented shit that feels like it's still trying to pander to scrotes/self-hating women. Like if it's supposed to be for me, why is it so similar to stuff for men? Why even bother when moidslop has more interesting female characters (at the cost of worse sexualization/degeneracy). Others would rather stick to otome/TL trash even if it's cringe and learn to love it, instead of bothering with moidshit. Hell, there are people who like or hate both. Or maybe you've spent so much time looking for obscure underrated gems on one side that you're sick of it and the other side feels like a breath of fresh air. Regardless of which of the two you prefer, it doesn't make you any better or worse, unless someone's acting like a prick about it and calling the other a pickme, cuck or whatever.

That nona explicitly said she likes the character's personality so much that she can overlook the coomer design. Most people here would prefer a cool female character like that withOUT the coomer shit. But most of the time you can only have one or the other. Other nonas might not be able to look past the design. It really depends on what you're looking for.
We all have different opinions and don't agree on the exact same things all the time.

No. 2433325

>>2432132
>>2432107
>>2432309
Just when you think you’ve seen everything on the internet…
There has to be some sort of lesson here in fanaticism, and how far is too far. This young lady should’ve been stopped in her tracks long ago, nothing is worth risking your life for like this…

No. 2433335

>>2433292
ily nonnie, she's the best. idgaf about her big titty self inserts because she actually mostly focuses on the guys. Her art is also amazing, i can only dream to become half as good in my lifetime.

No. 2433337

>>2433318
Sweet baby Jesus I take it back

No. 2433348

>>2433038
You oughta read this post. >>>/m/456486

>>2433278
NTA (I'm >>2433318 also adding that if I wanna read otome/TL it's because I wanna look at hot straight anime dudes being cute, so it should be obvious what the problem is) but everyone here already brutally criticizes moidslop in many threads. I know I do. You don't know what the other anon's thoughts on everything are just from one post. Nobody screeched at that anon because she was having a civil conversation with other nonas and she made it explicitly clear that, even if she knows it's coombait, she doesn't care and enjoys the character's personality regardless of it. No sane person would feel the need to criticize her for it, unless you're one of those posters who really hates it when other women like things they hate and tries to convince them of not enjoying those things anymore. Seriously, a lot of anons need to chill out about other anons liking or not liking what they personally hate or love, repectively.
Also, believe it or not, but you can consume a piece of media that you hate for the most part, and still enjoy some of it. That's what normal people do.

No. 2433351

>>2433337
Sorry for being so spergy, I don't like it either

No. 2433370

>>2433348
>it's not just internalized male gaze or so-called pickmeism from the authors that's the problem, mangaka who actually want to publish better het smut for women in Japan are being actively prevented from doing so. Unfortunately, I can't seem to find the original source for that claim, so this is just hearsay
I believe it, it's not just with female smut manga either. I've seen more than a few times where male shounen manga writers admit that they were told to increase the breast size of female characters if they wanted to write them assertively, or their characters were made to sound more cutesy, writers that were set up with lolicon/ecchi artists to be more marketable, etc.

No. 2433377

>>2433335
>>2433292
Nice to see other women of culture. The boys she draws are so fucking good, I love her work so much

No. 2433440

>>2433187
You're a retard.

No. 2433654

>>2433206
nta but if your strawman when called out for being a retard is to act like black people using an extremely common part of their language is some rare breed online then i feel bad for anyone who has the displeasure of having you in their life kekkkk

No. 2433661

File: 1741396400029.jpg (116.14 KB, 736x1215, serinuma.jpg)

Number 1 public enemy of 12 year olds on pinterest.

No. 2433687

>>2433661
Why do they hate her?

No. 2433690

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>>2433687
Because she's a fujo I guess?

No. 2433696

File: 1741397738764.png (1.57 MB, 913x1843, tdhdtr.png)

>>2432977
>rifuru
I had once got tricked into reading a hentai manga that she had drawn because I was told that it has a super submissive and expressive ML. But it ended up being the most disgusting thing I had ever read because the male and female characters looked like they belonged to two different genres, and it was pretty obvious that it was written for moids. It didn't help that the women on batoto were praising it as something revolutionary because the moid had a small and "realistic" penis. Like, why would a woman enjoy reading a manga about the most unrealistic big, titty moe faced bimbo mommying the most average looking self insert scrote with a micropenis.

>>2433030
I ended up speed-reading this, and it is unironically so much better than the abomination Rifuru draws. The male characters are also superior.

No. 2433697

>>2433661
Is this anime good? The premise sounds cute

No. 2433701

>>2433697
It's pretty cute and the main couple are really sweet (not really a spoiler that they get together since the show makes it obvious from episode 1)

No. 2433704

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>>2433687
Probably because she’s a fat girl that gets to have her fujo fun while having every moid want to be with her. The show should’ve gone the yuri route tbh, Shima was actually interested in Kae before her weight loss and they had way more in common than the male love interests who only liked her body or just because she was kind

No. 2433707

>>2433704
Asuma also loved her from the start though…

No. 2433709

File: 1741398594920.png (559.79 KB, 1114x594, no one on pinterest knows what…)


No. 2433721

>>2433709
>you're so pathetic ahh mf
why do zoomers talk like this now

No. 2433724

>>2433709
>you have no idea do u
kek she says that like she's talking about a criminal. I'd expect those kinds of comments from a kid though.

No. 2433726

>>2433721
I think it's gen alpha actually.

No. 2433736

>>2433696
Thanks for introducing me to her shota hentai

No. 2433739

>>2433709
I cannot begin to explain the amount of hate I have for this type of slang.

No. 2433740

File: 1741399820635.jpg (106.27 KB, 736x736, I truly love pinterest slander…)

To be fair when I see Tomosane I get so angry that I sometimes have to get up and pace around a bit because I hate him so much.

No. 2433743

>>2433709
I'll never understand those who get mad and jealous over female leads you're supposed to relate to or self-insert as.

No. 2433746

>>2433743
kids literally get jealous of their OWN self insert characters

No. 2433749

>>2433370
>male shounen manga writers admit that they were told to increase the breast size of female characters if they wanted to write them assertively, or their characters were made to sound more cutesy
That's actually great information. Do you have sources? Sources for this kind of psyop need to be compiled at some point.

>>2433696
>the male and female characters looked like they belonged to two different genres
I hate this shit so much. We should compile instances of this sexual dimorphism thing kek.
I have never read anything by Rifuru, but I mean, those works you're talking about were explicitly aimed at moids. She has a more recent manga that's aimed at women so that's what you should be comparing to the manhwa you read.

>>2433743
>>2433746
Why can't they just self-insert? Do they not realize that's what they're meant to do? lmao

No. 2433758

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>>2433709
I remember when slander pinterest was popular in 2021/2022, for some reason boyfriends was their main target (and dream smp)

No. 2433763

File: 1741400383958.jpg (1.07 MB, 1600x864, 2ldc135.jpg)

>>2433704
Fucking thank you! I dont give a shit that generic bishie no.5 also liked her from the start, Shima was loaded, a fujo, and loved her both from the start AND when she regained her weight. She even searched for content of her notp so she could find a gift for her birthday, drew doujinshis for her, and cosplayed as her husbando. that is true fujo courting and mogs whatever the fuck generic childhood friend had to put in the table aside from doing the bare minimum of treating her like a human being when she was fat. All the bishie scrote did was make her pregnant and trap her with kids. I still seethe about the ending to this day THE FUJO SHOULDVE BEEN ENDGAME

No. 2433767

>>2433736
Nta but hope you enjoy kek
>>2433743
Its another level of internalized misogyny

No. 2433768

>>2433758
This genre of Pinterest post has always pissed me off so bad, people unironically trying to turn Pinterest into a discourse filled social media site. No one wants to read your shitty opinions over a picture of a genshit character, post a cool image or go to tiktok.

No. 2433769

>>2433758
Didn't all of them stop when the creator came out as a gendie? kek

No. 2433772

File: 1741400633759.png (912.02 KB, 688x751, cumaru.png)

>>2433749
>Do they not realize that's what they're meant to do?
Yes.
>>2433758
For me it's second only to those danganronpa discourse posts where they talked about ships they dislike or rape.

No. 2433774

>>2433709
How old do you think the commenters are

No. 2433775

>>2433769
No I don't think so. It just fell out of trend

No. 2433776

File: 1741400828358.jpg (112.81 KB, 500x582, 2deep4u.jpg)

>>2433774
9 to 13 range

No. 2433778

>>2433776
I can't believe this is unironic KEK

No. 2433783

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>>2433775
Samefag, but I remember pearl was hated by everyone on slander pinterest despite her gender special pronouns. They didn't care they just wanted to fight people kek

No. 2433785

>>2433661
Only insecure retards hate her tbh

No. 2433786

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>>2433778
I think it comes from kids not understanding that people get horny kek.
>thinks smoking is cool
Now I don't smoke and go into a coughing fit when I'm near cigarettes, but I can aknowledge that it looks pretty sexy in the right context.

No. 2433826

>>2433820
Because we're discussing pinterest kids? Read the thread.

No. 2433883

>>2433837
you're so right nona, sometimes it seems like the conversation is heading towards a right way and then the yaoi sperging returns

No. 2433899

>>2433739
It feels so fucking braindead, I understand it's supposed to be the new stolen aave term but how the fuck are they even saying that in real life? Black people talk in a way that it rolls off the tongue easier, but you KNOW these are white kids with wealthy suburban parents who speak far more slowly.

No. 2433902

>>2433776
YBC was hot and based

No. 2434071

>>2433763
100% agree, but in retrospect Shima deserves better than a retarded pickme who chose Boring Sweater Moid over the person she was more compatible with simply because he had a cock. Kae's gonna feel like a real dipshit in five years when she gets stuck alone at home changing his ugly kids' diapers while Shima is still out having fun and enjoying her career as a mangaka. I hope Shima marries a different woman, and retarded Kae tries to come crawling back to her after her Nigel inevitably cheats on her. Sorry Kae, you had your chance!

No. 2434080

>>2433707
Yes but he's a moid. Automatically inferior.

No. 2434119

File: 1741414673523.gif (2.16 MB, 392x276, baby fights.gif)

>>2433758
>>2433709
>>2433776
Children need to hang out on Roblox or Club Penguin or whatever and stay away from the rest of the internet until their brains develop properly

No. 2434232

>>2434071
I have not read this manga, but I feel like many shojosei manga treat secondary female characters as either the FMC’s disposable cheerleaders or bitches who only exist to steal her man. It is just sad. The writer could at least show the cheerleader moving on with her life and finding her own happiness instead of just being an accessory to the FMC.

No. 2434893

>>2433709
Why do people try to "cancel" fictional characters like this? Like what do you expect Kae to do, write an apology post?

No. 2434901

>>2433704
>The show should’ve gone the yuri route tbh
Yurifags can't be THIS delusional. Why do you even watch it if not for the boys?

No. 2434927

>>2434232
Most romance manga tend to end as soon as the couple gets together. Recently trends have been changing but it just ends up being kinda boring and nobody really cares what the side characters do.

No. 2434933

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>>2434901
>the boys anon watches it for
I’m sorry but even in the manga the moids are all ugly, not my fault the mangaka made the perfect partner for the protagonist be another woman and then made her choose a boring male that only likes her because she was nice to him. It would be different if the males had more character but it’s always an issue with shoujo romances with fujos as the main girl. Another example would be Fujoshi Rumi and how forced the het pairing felt. The protag had to imagine herself as a man to be able to come to terms with liking him and he only started to notice her because she chose him as a model for her doujins over his hotter friend

No. 2434951

>>2434933
which boy is endgame? i like the ones from the right

No. 2434960

>>2434951
I am literally watching it right now but looked it up for you. Far right, who is my personal favorite, is endgame. You have good taste anon, those are my favorites too.

No. 2434965

>>2434933
>Another example would be Fujoshi Rumi and how forced the het pairing felt
The best part with Fujoshi Rumi was everything related to the two main characters being fujoshi, going to cons, being involved in fandom drama and trying to publish a doujinshi, the romance didn't feel secondary but I wish it were.

No. 2434972

>>2434901
I watched it for the boys but I ended up liking Shima's dynamic with Kae. That's why I wanted her to be end game. Idk what else to tell you.

No. 2435022

>>2434972
Are you at least bisexual by any chance?

No. 2435036

>>2435022
why do you care

No. 2435041

>>2434119
Club Penguin's been dead for years…

No. 2435042

>>2435041
In anon's defense, someone made a clone site, but they were shut down last year due to copyright litigation.

No. 2435045

>>2433661
those pinterest images are so annoying

No. 2435065

>>2433776
>>2433786
Those pinterest kids said that YBC is illegal material when the characters don't even look like children
>>2434119
they have roblox but unfortunately they get groomed constantly on there

No. 2435204

>>2433721
Anyone who types "ahh" instead of "ass" is an actual retard and their opinion should be immediately discarded.

No. 2435242

>>2433721
Originally, the only people doing it were braindead retards desperate for likes, so they would censor themselves to not get shadowbanned, but now it's catching up on YT and even reddit. As if they were on a family gathering and not the goddamn internet kek

No. 2435244

>>2434901
Not everyone has a tribal mindset when watching shows. If you watch a show and two characters have better chemistry than who actually got together, it is natural to think they made a better couple.

No. 2435257

>>2433661
>>2433687
Sounds like envy tbh, because she can have an army of men after her while being a fujo, an attractive one at that, so they shield themselves by saying "fujo girl baaad!"

No. 2435313

>>2433726
It's both, plus especially online millennials.

No. 2435354

>>2432027
at the end of the day, people like watching/looking at aesthetically pleasing things. All humans are the same.

No. 2435361

>>2433709
imagine having this little problems that a fictional character pisses you off. also calling an anime character a pickme, and trying to devalue her/put moids on a pedestal by saying she has less worth because moids wont pick her irl..the ironyyyy

No. 2435363

>>2433763
I have never watched this show because I waved it off as a stupid shoujo romance but if all of what you described happens in it I'm glad I walked past it because holy kek I'm seething so fucking hard just reading this. A fujoshi GL would be my dream come true and I can't believe a setting like this would be set in flames in such manner.

No. 2435365

>>2433709
Me talking about Sasuke

No. 2435374

>>2433776
Kek these children shouldn't even be aware of what YBC is. It's a Manga for women to coom to, simple as.

No. 2435397

File: 1741457264639.jpg (Spoiler Image,1.42 MB, 1200x1678, 125577198_p4.jpg)

>>2433696
>I had once got tricked into reading a hentai manga that she had drawn because I was told that it has a super submissive and expressive ML.
sorry anon but you are retarded for using batoto. Her best work(shota) isnt going to be there. Her new bishie work hasnt been scanned yet, either.

No. 2435400

>>2433704
>>2433763
some of you are starting to sound like insane twitter trannies(bait)

No. 2435405

>>2435400
Anons werent lying when they said this thread attracts the same cows they make fun of

No. 2435417

Is it true most women wouldn't want a Stellar Blade for women? I argued with a 4chin moid about this which he claimed I was a small minority and felt insane. No fucking way are that many women safe horny suitfags.

No. 2435418

File: 1741458171070.jpg (755.98 KB, 2181x4369, 1653832308061.jpg)

>>2433749
Nta but this had happened with Nihei. He got mindbroken by his editors into drawing his female characters with bigger boobs kek.

>>"It's been 4 days since I started this drawing. First of all, the first rough art I submitted was Killy and Dhomochevsky holding a gun, but the editors forced me to "just draw tits". 20 years of being a manga artist, sometimes I just wanna draw what I want to. But still, all I get is emails from my manager asking me for the direct opposite of what I want to draw. Then I get laughed at when I ask what "π/" meant, thinking it was a typo, getting asked how an active manga artist doesn't know what π/ means.((side note π/ means tit oppai->pai→π)) On top of that, I get complaints about using too much gray and black for a color print, making me give Sanakan's skin color and drawing tits larger, both Shibo and Sanakan ended up looking nothing like the original art. Gradually as I continue redrawing Shibo's tits, I start tearing up as I realize my unworthiness. But I had no time to cry. Even tomorrow, I need to finish the cover art for my ongoing "Aposimz" series' 2nd book. There's another reason I feel like crying. Cover art doesn't make me money. Once when I asked why, I was hit with the grinniest grin ever, getting told that's just how things are. But I've heard in other companies cover art makes money. No, the rumor that other manga artists get paid for cover art in Kodansha… No, gotta focus on my work, for now, no time for bad thoughts."

No. 2435424

>>2435417
Men argue that because they don't want to believe it kek. The popularity of LADS proves there's a market for it.

No. 2435428

>>2435417
if that were true then we wouldnt have stuff like nucani and LADS.

No. 2435430

>>2435418
This is actually kind of sad. You must have to be real hardhearted to work as an editor in these industries kek, it seems like you're required to either crush author's spirits or become a full-time handler to autistic degenerates.

No. 2435431

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>>2435428
>nucani
Unfortunately, Nucani has been going down the safe horny fully clothed moid route and became censored as fuck as of late. And no one complains because women are pussies and don't chimp out like moids do (which we should)

No. 2435439

File: 1741459065370.png (142.29 KB, 564x609, 1708717311134465.png)

>>2435418
>>2435430
Nihei really is a suffering artist.

No. 2435441

>>2435439
KEK stacy daughter

No. 2435451

>>2435400
I promise if you read KHNM you will feel the same way. I read it because I'm a fujo and it looked funny. I was not expecting there to be a female character in the harem, let alone that she would end up being the character I shipped with the MC. Also I've yet to see a troon of either sex who likes this manga. TiFs hate it because they think Kae is an evil fetishizer, and TiMs haven't heard of it because it's not moe booba pantyshot slop.

No. 2435453

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>>2435431
Damn they all look ai generated. I have never played this game, I only save fanart of Rei and Blade but doesn't Nucani have explicit sex scenes. I don't get what is stopping the creators from putting the characters in more interesting, lewd outfits.

>>2435439
>editors keep forcing him to draw big titty waifus
>wife has divorced him
>daughter thinks his manga is trash
He has it rough kek.

No. 2435454

>>2435451
anon its a manga for women its not going to end in yurishit. The lesbian is ugly as fuck too, they could have at least gone with a cuter design.

No. 2435457

>>2433749
nta and not directly related to boobs but I remember something about the guy who made JJK. His very first editor was really stupid and before the artist worked on JJK0 he made a few short manga here and there, he drew himself and this editor arguing over whether a female character's thighs were too big or not, with the editor screaming at the artist to make the female character's legs skinny. This editor forced him to include a school setting in JJK0 and fucked off after the first chapter was released, which was also the setting for the first parts of JJK so I assume this editor just loves the most generic things and wanted the female characters to look as generic as possible for the audience. I think the guy who draws One Piece told a female fan who sent him a fan letter that if she wants to become an editor she should avoid the shonen jump or shueisha as a whole because it's a very sexist environment, he said it very casually in one of the volumes so I assume it's way worse than that in reality and if he went into details he wouldn't have been allowed to write his answer in one of his books. I can't recall any other artists complaining about something like that in particular though, maybe they do in interviews way after they finish their series.

No. 2435458

>>2435454
I had no expectation that it would? I'm just saying which of the love interests was my favorite.

No. 2435462

>>2435417
>Is it true most women wouldn't want a Stellar Blade for women?
We have much more famous and popular games with male characters who are sexualized by the female audience with mods, fanart, fanfics, etc. so I refuse to believe female nerds wouldn't want this if the gameplay and stories are good enough. I say female nerds because I doubt your average male normie would be into Stellar Blade all that much. I associate it too much with culture war gamergate twitterfags though.

No. 2435466

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>>2435453
Their outfits used to be a lot more lewd, but recently a censored version got released which directly impacted their baseline designs. It sucks.
>>2435457
Not SJ, but I know Hiromu Arakawa (fullmetal alchemist) specifically chose that name so people wouldn't assume less of her manga because she's a woman or something along those lines. It honestly makes me super happy that arguably the most critically acclaimed anime of all time was originally written by a woman.

No. 2435470

>>2435462
>I associate it too much with culture war gamergate twitterfags though.
That's the only reason Stellar Blade got any attention at all kek, ragebaiting scrotes gave it free advertising. The moment it was actually released the hype fizzled out overnight.

No. 2435473

>>2435417
I would love a female focused game that had cool flashy combat gameplay while staring at a scantily clad moid, honestly. I don't need to keep reiterating it because I don't need to come across as an NLOG but pleaaaase I would love anything that wasn't a VN or a gacha game with no substance. Why do men get all the cool combat mechanics because some women are too cucked and tricked themselves into thinking they're too stupid and slow to keep up with the high octane stuff?

No. 2435474

>>2435466
>I know Hiromu Arakawa (fullmetal alchemist) specifically chose that name so people wouldn't assume less of her manga because she's a woman or something along those lines
That's a very different topic. I know she's not the only one at all but on top of my head I can't think of any other woman whose manga I've read doing this, usually they used pen names for privacy reasons or to not be associated with their doujinshi. It's not exclusive to mangaka, JKR did something similar as well for her HP novels. Is this trend changing these days? I found a funny tweet months ago about how someone finding out the artist for some recent shonen jump manga is also a fujoshi who made a lot of very popular and inappropriate MHA doujinshi, but the pen names are so similar it feels like she's trying to start shit with someone at shueisha. I think her pen name for her doujinshi was Shoco and now for her professional career it's Neo Shoco, you'd think the editors would be more careful than that, or maybe they don't care.

No. 2435477

>>2434960
nta but what he's so ugly

No. 2435479

>>2433776
to this day i never understood why suddenly in 2020/2021 ybc got hate when it's been out for years kekkk

No. 2435480

>>2435479
I have to assume that the pandemic and the unprecedented amount of unsupervised free time online it afforded kids is the reason

No. 2435483

>>2435454
>The lesbian is ugly as fuck too, they could have at least gone with a cuter design.
If this is your reaction to a princely lesbian archetype you are are no better than the yurifags who only consoom kawaii moeslop kek

No. 2435485

>>2435466
What an incredibly sexo design. I hate that we will never get characters like this in mainstream gachaslop like Genshit/HSR.

No. 2435486

>>2435474
Inappropriate in what way?

No. 2435496

>>2435417
That sounds like a dream, as long as it has a better story than Slop Blade. Honestly there arent enough games that slut out their men.

No. 2435499

>>2435431
Isn't it literally an r18 porn game? Why the hell would they go the safer route?

No. 2435504

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>>2435483
comparing her to princely anime women should count as homophia. Dont compare that ugly retard with a bowl cut to actual princely girls.

No. 2435511

>>2435486
I haven't read them but the tweet included a few covers and they're adult only doujinshi with very explicit cover art. Of characters from a shonen jump series. And now she has her own series in the same magazine with the same art style and almost the same pen name kek. Hopefully no 12 years old Japanese boys will look her up online.

No. 2435512

>>2435457
The author of World Trigger says he did it casually in one of the volumes talking about the characters, the editor was worried that one of the characters would seen too much of a bitch, so they added more boobs to counteract complaints.
>>2435474
It's been more difficult since so many of their big titles are ending, they're struggling trying to replace the empty space with new titles because none are getting enough crowds they want. They've been doing a lot of stuff to counteract that, including hiring new female authors.
One of their recent titles that's been popular has been by a female duo, the first time its happened. The writer of Iruma that they managed to get and the artist for Act Age, who probably has a lot of hate for men right now considering the absolute fucking retard pedo she was partnered with first almost ruined her career.

No. 2435514

>>2435511
Kekkkk

No. 2435516

>>2435486
>Bakugo gets fucked 100 times
>Bakugo tries anal
>Bakugo bathroom fuck
>Bakugo but he's that meat blob thing
>Tao Ren gets fucked in the ass

No. 2435517

>>2435499
Beats me. Either their trying to enter the sfw market or they're just chickening out.

No. 2435518


No. 2435519

>>2435512
>the editor was worried that one of the characters would seen too much of a bitch, so they added more boobs to counteract complaints.
Moids are so fucking retarded

No. 2435528

>>2435519
The manga's art is too stiff for any fanservice anyway tbh, it ended up with a lot more of a fujo/yume fanbase so it really wasn't for much.

No. 2435530

>>2435517
Not sure if this applies to nuc but in general but you reminded me how much I hate when these companies get greedy and try to branch out to a wider audience for more money. I know thats all a business wants, but it especially happens to female-orientated media. E.g. like how Broccoli milked Utapri fans for years just so they can use that money to release their flop waifu idol franchise that no one asked for. How about you create a new IP for the women who already built your company from ground up instead?

No. 2435532

>>2435512
>One of their recent titles that's been popular has been by a female duo, the first time its happened
Is that Ichi the Witch? I've seen one anon recommending it recently but I haven't given it a try because I want to be up to date with other series I've started recently before that.

>>2435519
They're either retarded or they assume the audience is retarded. There have been cases of editors making series way less terrible than they were supposed to be, especially Naruto, and I bet they also helped Death Note to be good after seen how terrible the beginning of Bakuman was with its female characters and how everyone hated Platinum End when it ended, but some of them want everything to be as generic and boring as possible. I'm not checking everything from the shonen jump but I've been into many of its series from when I was a small kid to now, is it me or is there less fanservice now than before despite all of this? I can't think of any recent shonen jump action series that has as much fanservice as Dr Slump, the first half of Dragon Ball, City Hunter, Cats Eyes or Bastard. Even silly bullshit like Naruto changing into a naked woman for like 5 panels in total in the manga as a gag isn't something I can compare to current shonen jump manga.

No. 2435534

>>2435530
>like how Broccoli milked Utapri fans for years just so they can use that money to release their flop waifu idol franchise that no one asked for.
Speaking of Utapri, what's up with that? I saw a few days ago that there will be an official HypMic and Utapri collab soon, but wasn't there supposed to be a PSVita Utapri game and it never came out? Or was it just a rumor? Are there still Utapri events or concerts these days? Because the anime seems to be over for good. I don't get how this franchise is still printing money when it seems so mismanaged these days.

No. 2435537

>>2435534
They’ve been promising to release that game for YEARS but I believe they cant find a writer (or composer?) for it. At this point they want to string fans along without admitting they’re not going to release it. Just typical behavior from a japanese company making stuff for women

No. 2435546

>>2432955
that's exactly why it's so good in fiction

No. 2435547

>>2435532
>Is that Ichi the Witch?
Yup.
>is it me or is there less fanservice now than before despite all of this?
Tbh I think it might just have to do with Shounen Jump being a stressful job. There's a lot easier ways for hentai artists to make a living nowadays, they don't have to struggle with drawing on a week deadline.

No. 2435549

>>2435457
>>2435512
>>2435418
I don't know why some anons are surprised by this, it's a well known fact that manga editors force sexualization and woobification of the female characters to coddle all the horny teenage boys reading the manga. They also do that for anime adaptations. Not all scrote mangakas are terminal coomers who want to draw titcows and take detours with girls being demeaned simply for the male gaze, a lot of them are just storytelling and battle autists who feel adding oversexualization is cheapening their work.

>>2435532
Toriyama's work and stuff like City Hunter had a lot of fanservice but it was laid out very on the nose so paradoxically it wasn't as distracting and mostly used for comedic effect, but nowadays the fanservice is so ingrained into the story that the female characters don't have any agency besides sucking protagonist cock and being wish-fulfillment waifus. For example nowadays you couldn't make a female character beat a male character up for accidentally peeping on her like they did in the 90's because that would be "mean" and "bitchy", they'll just have to take and even enable it.

No. 2435553

>>2435466
God I hate how fictional moids have to be depicted covered in head to toe but women can wear stripper outfits and it's okay. Every genre and demographic does this. I see it in otome and shoujo

No. 2435629

>>2435022
You will not believe this, anon, but some women actually enjoy all kinds of romance, regardless of their actual sexuality. They don't need to justify their love for cute/interesting romances by telling you what their sexual orientation is.

>>2435397
>scanned
ACKSHUALYL it's digital on DLsite so it should be easy to rip. Also this manga's sex scenes look really good, they're entirely focused on the guys. Inshallah she keeps BTFO of her scrote audience and TL publishers like this.

>>2435417
>muh safe horny suitfags
Again with the fucking "suitfag" shit. I like both suits and slutwear and I'm sure I'm not the only one here who does. You're making up a divide that doesn't actually exist just because you personally are tired of femgaze art where the men don't wear revealing clothes (which is entirely fair).

Scrotes don't know what women want, and even when they do know, they pretend to know better. Don't listen to them, don't let them gaslight you.

No. 2435635

>>2435629
>You're making up a divide that doesn't actually exist
nta but back when this discussion started a few years ago there were a lot of defensive suitfags who would call women into guys in revealing clothes fags/men.

No. 2435646

>>2435635
Then they were also faking a divide because most of us 2Dfags don't give a shit. That thread was an absolute trainwreck and both sides were equally retarded. I have seen the anons who think wanting to see more naked men is gay male behavior, yeah they're dumb.
There's women who like het, yaoi and yuri at the same time, and there's women who like suits and slutwear in equal amounts. But they usually don't participate in these shit-flinging contests and that's why you don't see them argue with the retards often.

No. 2435647

>>2435549
>For example nowadays you couldn't make a female character beat a male character up for accidentally peeping on her like they did in the 90's
It kind of feels like the trope of pervert males being beat up has almost disappeared entirely.

No. 2435655

>>2435647
I wonder if it's really because of what anon said about female characters not being allowed to be too bitchy or if it's just because it's too cartoony and silly compared to what the more recent manga are like?

No. 2435668

>>2435629
>You will not believe this, anon, but some women actually enjoy all kinds of romance, regardless of their actual sexuality. They don't need to justify their love for cute/interesting romances by telling you what their sexual orientation is.
I'm sorry nonna but I can't into lesbian shit. I use to at one point but there was always this knot in the back of my brain that's like,"I mean it's cute but there's no guys for me to visually appreciate", so I don't consume it often. Once I got into my mid to early twenties, my body finds it gross? I'm not saying two girls holding hands is like watching maggots but I can't get into yuri, I can't get into baihe, I can't get into gl manwha. Anything that so much as depicts two women together makes my body grimace into a ball. I wish I wasn't like this but that's how I am now.

No. 2435676

>>2435668
Nta and that's fine, but the point being made is that's not universal. My turbo heterosexual mother watched Killing Eve and didn't bat an eye. I think it could also be related to how much you can separate yourself from what you're watching.

No. 2435680

>>2435629
I swear the people you keep replying to are just baiting in bad faith at this point.

No. 2435687

>>2435676
That could be it but then I don't mind two guys being in love or doing it? Neither of them are women yet I'm more able to enjoy that and then two women doing the same. Maybe I'm just weird because I know plenty of lesbians who like bl and still eat pussy afterwards. My only issue is not coming off as a supposed lesbophobe when I don't mind lesbians and bi women being themselves.

No. 2435697

>>2428970
Kek, related: I love playing these fun mindgames with a TIF fandom mutual wherein I am very openly happy & comfortable about being a regular straight woman and this causes her to crash the fuck out for literally 0 reason. I can tell because she keeps goading me to thirst over female characters (“sorry, not interested!”), adopt troon headcanons (“I’m not trans, I wouldn’t want to be disrespectful by getting it wrong!”) and even going so far as to try and insert her own troon narratives into my story with my OCs (“nice idea, this would be non-canon for me personally though <3”). It riles her up so badly that I sometimes cackle with glee when the passive-aggressive undertones come bleeding through her messages in droves. I can tell she’s dying to find some dirt on me being a radfem to make a callout but can’t find a thing since I’ll dripfeed her with just enough “muh troons lives matter!” BS to soothe it over when needed. Nonas, if you’re ever bored, I recommend find yourself a TIF moron to play cat-and-mouse with. 10/10 would troll again.

No. 2435723

>>2435697
SA I'd probably fold in under an hour if I was you. I just can't bring myself to accept I'm straight because I spent my formative years on that tumblr microlabel juice and men bad discourse. You couldn't mention your love of fictional male blobros without fauxbian handmaidens having a melty over it. Thankfully, I moved past tumblr and slowly getting over my brain thinking men are ugly. Don't get me wrong, most are, but the 2d ones most certainly aren't.

No. 2435724

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>>2429982
> Every single one of these retards is head over heels for trans Viktor anyway, because they want to self insert onto a small woman with a pussy
I loved Viktor in S2 a LOT because he’s exactly my type: dark-blue, blond, depressed but soft guy with some kind of curse weighing him down (looking at you, Dainsleif). So earlier today I was actually wondering why, despite this, I had completely blocked him out of my mind soon after Arcane ended. Thank you for reminding me. It was the troon-Viktor fanarts: they are absolutely fucking disgusting. If you want to read even a sliver of NSFW content on this man on Ao3, you’ll be forced to scroll through pages of “tee hee pussy Viktor” before getting scraps of bio-penis, and that’s still after doing all I can to filter out the troon slop. Even worse, I like bottom Viktor, which means I can kiss goodbye to any fanart of him with a dick. I would honestly rather take asexual Viktor (due to the magic hexcore body shit) with a barbie-smooth pelvic region over yet another nasty ass picture of Jayce eating out a saggy vulva. Lord, will someone free my precious, pretty husband from this curse?

No. 2435731

>>2435474
>someone finding out the artist for some recent shonen jump manga is also a fujoshi who made a lot of very popular and inappropriate MHA doujinshi
>Shoco

Man holy shit, I love shoco. I didn't know she worked for SJ! Always loved her art. Kinda retarded for someone to focus on that though since most moid mangakas/artists always have degnerate art/interests under their belts. Praying for her success kek

No. 2435747

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>>2432579
I’ve seen Vox’s real face through leaks and he’s actually okay looking for a 3DPD. I wish he would lay off the corny “sexy-daddy” demon act though, it doesn’t suit him at all. He’s at his best when he relaxes and acts naturally on stream, since he feels like the kind of guy I could meet and date irl. At the end of the day I don’t really watch his stuff though since the ASMR is a bit too cringe for me. Shame.

No. 2435749

>>2435747
Why does he look like Turkey Tom? Jesus

No. 2435752

>>2435747
At least he isn’t balding… yet

No. 2435761

>>2435749
KEK I was thinking the same thing. Like a less retarded looking Turkey Tom

No. 2435776

>>2435532
>I'm not checking everything from the shonen jump but I've been into many of its series from when I was a small kid to now, is it me or is there less fanservice now than before despite all of this?
I actually read a lot of the currently running WSJ and there is definitely that not much in the line of fanservice right now, outside of a few floundering harem series. JJK ended a few months ago, but I feel never sexualizing its girls is part of what made so many women like it lol. The Promised Neverland, Akane Banashi, and Blue Box all have female leads who don't get sexualized as well.

No. 2435777

>>2434071
Did you forget the part where the MC is clearly heterosexual and is only attracted to that lesbian cosplayer because she mistook her for a hot guy orrrrrr

No. 2435783

>>2435724
My OTP is Jayvik currently so I understand the pain, nonna. I don't even bother looking for NSFW fanart to avoid jumpscares. I hope I get over them soon.

No. 2435789

>>2435431
Ew, wtf happened? I used to play Nu:C a few months ago because Edmond and Olivine were hot as fuck but it’s like all of the sauce has been lost in your picrel, honestly it doesn’t even feel like the same characters

No. 2435793

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>>2435499
If you don't play the game, dont take the nona's words as gospel. They have been pushing this theory over at the lc nukani thread and also 4chan, but it doesn't necessarily reflect the opinion of most players. Releasing a censored version helped the devs branch out their collabs with brands that wouldn't work with a purely NSFW franchise and access customers who don't play anything that's not on app store, but there wasn't a complete overhaul in how the designs were. The game has always created designs to suit the event themes and the seasons, and the level of exposure have understandably varied from event to event. The winter outfit in picrel was before the censored version got released and the in your face bulge summer fit was after. The pic from >>2435431 has the characters go to an academy for nobles for some competition and shit so ofc they can't dress sluttily there.

No. 2435795

>>2435793
Tbh I think they're just experimenting with inner garmets being ultra lewd for more incentive to roll for units and get battle damage.

No. 2435803

>>2435668
>>2435687
It's ok, you have different tastes in fiction and different things you tolerate. It's nothing special or concerning, it's literally normal.

No. 2435814

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>>2435795
Yeah, another reason you won't see most players complain about the amount of coverage is the fact that you can strip the character sprites (picrel) and are also guaranteed to see them naked and fucking as a part of their unlockable personal stories. And like you said, it feels rewarding to find out the character is wearing a thong under his prim and proper outfit, kek.

No. 2435817

>>2435814
is there any place where you can see all the outfits and their stripped versions? i am making a game with a similar mechanic and i would like to take note

No. 2435825

>>2435814
That sword is beautiful

No. 2435826

>>2435747
I hate men who look like this

No. 2435839

>>2435814
I really hate how anime male lewdness just defaults to copying from female ecchislop. This is nasty.

No. 2435843

>>2435839
It’s not that deep, plenty of women find this type of sexualisation hot; it’s just not your cup of tea and that’s fine

No. 2435845

>>2435839
then what is male lewdness that isn't copied by female ecchislop?

No. 2435846

>>2435839
I'd be interested in seeing examples that don't do the same. I don't like lacey lingerie on men (it just repulses me in general, doesn't matter who's wearing it).

No. 2435847

>>2435839
what do you want then? it looks fine. You are just used to male ''''sexualization'''' being respectful instead of humilliating. Male ecchicoomers dont own sexy poses.

No. 2435849

>>2435846
>I'd be interested in seeing examples that don't do the same.
there are 3 million examples that do the generic shirtless oiled pig

No. 2435850

Don't reply

No. 2435851

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The word “gooner” is the best thing to happen to modern fandom. I just saw a viral tweet where a moid complained about a girl in his class calling SF6 “gooner slop”, with hordes of scrotes in the comments bitching about similar experiences:
> “So we can’t have women in games anymore??? The word gooner has lost all meaning”
No, no, no, no, you retarded little man-child. You just don’t like the fact that women now have a word to call out the fact that ALL media made by men for men has some degree of absurd over-sexualisation of women. AKA: goonslop. I love seeing male gamers in particular coping and seething at being forced to look in the mirror and face their porn-addiction head-on. No wonder they keep chimping out so hard. Keep up the slander, ladies.

No. 2435852

>>2435851
What about goonerslop for women like the stuff listed above?

No. 2435854

>>2435852
NTA but women can't be gooners.

No. 2435855

>>2435839
The original reply was about them experimenting with designs, it's not like you were the demographic they're aiming for to begin with.

No. 2435859

>>2435855
Don't get mad anon, if you post something in a thread expect other people to make comments that aren't part of the original discussion

No. 2435863

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There is this girl shitting up a community tab I follow on Tumblr. It's so fucking funny because her art is atrocious - but I looked into her social medias because I thought she was a kid?? She's a grown woman with a disability (maybe Downs Syndrome lite). Very sweet, very passionate. Now I feel like an asshole for wanting her stuff gone. But she's still shitting up the tab…?

No. 2435865

>>2435859
I'm not mad? I just don't expect someone that dislikes male fanservice to play a yaoi sex game.

No. 2435867

>>2435865
She didn't say she hated manservice. She just doesn't like the way it's usually done.

No. 2435868

>>2435851
I will always love the term "gooner" and all similar phrases. Most zoomer-speak is atrocious, but that one hit the nail on the head. We have this word now. They cannot deny it.
>>2435852
Still goonerslop. Be proud. Don't be in denial. That makes us more powerful.
>>2435854
Yes they can. Women are not unicorns incapable of shlicking it endlessly to shit we enjoy. And that is okay.

No. 2435869

>>2435863
Wrong thread

No. 2435871

>>2435869
No it isn't. Literally a fandom community tab?

No. 2435872

Do women generally just hate sexy male designs? Doesn't all the suitslop get boring? Even SSA are that suit sexy psy-op shit. Not saying men need to be in school girl uniforms to be sexy, that's retarded, I just want variety in my ikemen for fuck sake.
>>2435867
Then give us a better example?

No. 2435874

>>2435871
It’s a thread for talking about actual existing discourses in fandom, which is very obviously laid out in the title and description. No1curr about personal confessions. Wrong thread.

No. 2435876

>>2435874
Sweety, it's my complain about the fucking Dragon Ball Tumblr community tag holy shit

No. 2435878

>>2435876
samefag Actually. Fuck it. If you want to be like that then fine. I'll fuck off. Sorry.

No. 2435880

>>2435867
I just don't expect someone that dislikes male fanservice (as it's usually done) to play a yaoi sex game.

No. 2435881

Remember to not reply to bait. No matter how many times you politely and carefully explain it to them, they'll never stop projecting their black-and-white thinking onto everything you post. If you reply, you already know how it's gonna end.

>>2435868
>I will always love the term "gooner" and all similar phrases. Most zoomer-speak is atrocious, but that one hit the nail on the head.
"Gooning" was invented by scrotes who masturbate all day while watching hardcore pornography on 10 different monitors at the same time as a hobby.
>Yes they can.
It's an exclusively male hobby. What you mean is "coomer"; women can absolutely be coomers. I hate it when people use the word "gooner" for women who merely make horny tweets about their husbandos. It's just scrotes trying to make women look as bad as males, like how they started calling non-pickmes "femcels" because the word "incel" being used despectively was hurting ther feefees
>Women are not unicorns incapable of shlicking it endlessly to shit we enjoy. And that is okay.
No one denied this.

No. 2435882

>>2435880
Yeah ok, but she was just making a general comment based on the pic you posted.

No. 2435883

>>2435872
Nonas keep slandering suitfags but the whole point of suits is that they get taken off. What else is my husbando supposed to do all day, walk around naked? (Actually… hehe). Anyway the point is, most casual clothing is uggo, hipster/street/fashion is flashy but not attractive, fantasy clothing is cringe, which leaves my favourites: uniforms and suits, both of which are highly flattering for a man’s figure. So, I genuinely fail to see what the problem is? Being a suitfag doesn’t mean I’m a puritan who rees at skin. It’s just the best option for dress imo and gives me more of a dopamine hit when stripping husbandos bare.

No. 2435884

>>2435876
Then don’t vaguepost, in future you should be more specific about which fandom and which drama you’re referring to. Otherwise it comes across as self-indulgent selfposting between you and a personal object of dislike. I’ll drop it now though

No. 2435885

>>2435882
I didn't post anything, there's more than one person in the discussion.

No. 2435900

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>>2435883
>most casual clothing is uggo
This, most casual men's clothes are just ugly.
>Being a suitfag doesn’t mean I’m a puritan who rees at skin.
Exactly.
By the way, no matter how many times you state the obvious (that you can like both), you're not gonna stop certain people from being like that, they'll keep screeching about "suitfags". Next time, just don't reply to anyone who uses that word because it's guaranteed to turn into an infight. Whether they're actually just trolls or really that stupid, you should not give them ANY attention. If everyone learned to ignore them, they'd chimp out for a short while, desperately trying to get a reply, and if that didn't work, they'd fuck off for good. So please do your part and don't reply to anyone who uses that word or sounds dense as fuck despite giving them explanations, or like they're trying to start something. That's how you deal with trolls, baiters and infighters.

>>2435885
Okay, but that's irrelevant. "You or whoever posted that pic". Whatever, it's not a big deal.

No. 2435902

>>2435747
its giving "friends dorky little brother" vibe

No. 2435903

File: 1741483570477.jpg (1.32 MB, 1079x1925, 1000032765.jpg)

>>2435839
Can't speak of anime lewdness in general but the character design you seem to dislike is one of the more "feminine lewd" types in nukani. The other men are lewded in different ways, like the one further up above (the left one in >>2435793), or picrel. Do they pass your standards for male sexualization? Just curious.

No. 2435913

>>2435903
They don't really care, they just wanted to bait and then blame those that respond.

No. 2435923

>>2435881
>What you mean is "coomer"
They all mean the same shit, it's all stupid internet garbage lingo based on le ebin wojaks, a few years ago they used "coomer" to talk about anything perverted and now "gooner" is the new hip replacement word used by the broccoli-haired, tide pod-eating crowd that is used by everyone to talk about the exact same shit.

No. 2435931

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>>2435903
NTA, but I did agree with her.

I kinda like this one, I just wish he wasn't wearing pants, or at least have his inner thighs be exposed. I'm a big fan of loincloths. Kars from Jojo is my favorite example. You could say this isn't humiliating or sexual for him, but if another character was forced to wear something similar and he found it embarrassing or it turned him on, that'd be ideal for me.

Actually, I think the reason I don't like stuff like >>2435814 is all the random, retarded, unnecessary details that don't really add anything, in my opinion, although it could also be the artist's fault for not emphasizing it the right way, they look like an afterthought. To me, >>2435814 looks so cluttered that I just lose interest.
But I think >>2435793 is hot.

No. 2435933

>>2435747
he looks like yanderedev if he was normal from the beginning

>>2435863
>here is this girl shitting up a community tab I follow on Tumblr.
ngl that is how i feel whenever i post fanart on socmed. but life is to be lived yolo etc etc

No. 2435941

>>2435814
Ugly as sin

No. 2435952

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>>2435793
>so ofc they can't dress sluttily there
Has that ever been a big deal in-universe? It's been a while since I played, but I recall Edmond wearing this in front of his mom and not even she gave a shit.

No. 2435954

>>2435952
I'm not a nukanifag/fujo but I think this kind of outfit should be the standard even if they release a non-R18 version. It's only fair, since this shit >>2431238 is on the Play Store.

No. 2435959

>>2435954
I think the game is playing it safe, going from being the only "for woman" game, on some random porn site to the Google play store seems risky.

No. 2435964

>>2435883
I mean cool I guess? Just don't go around calling anyone outside that gooners for wanting something else? Like suits aren't bad on their own but if every male character wore that even in casual settings I get bored instantly. That's why I often gravitate towards fantasy and prehistorical settings. I like male outfits that cool, lively, and interesting instead of boring grey corporate feeling slop.

No. 2435968

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>>2435952
Ayrt you're correct that people in that event didn't care about Ed's attire, but despite the spicy dominatrix elements in the design, it actually covers almost everything other than his stomach (some nona will pop up calling it burqa any moment kek). I will say though, this is the most "obviously lewd but not perceived by the world as such" outfit in nukani, the other lewd ones have some sort of rationalization behind it which I personally like (like picrel is supposed to be suitable for hot weather kek)

No. 2436012

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a bunch of younger zoomers/alphas recently raided a discord server i'm in that generally aims slightly older (for context, i'm a zoomie too, born in the middle of the generation). the server is about a niche interest that is mostly popular with old people so its online presence and fandom is on the smaller side. we generally have discussions about the media (i hate to use the word but it's the one that fits), the intentions of the author, analysis of the characters… when the alphas invaded all they did was spam memes and irony poisoning. when the older members, that aren't even THAT old, said that this server leans on the more serious side and that shitposting and irony poisoning may be better suited for another server, they got mad and said that we "were just angry at teenagers having silly fun". we weren't even mad, just startled because the raid came out of nowhere. they have their own little corner on twitter where the meme spam and shitposting continues, and all of this made me realize that oh my god, i am the old woman yelling at clouds now. but also, can't younger people in fandom just enjoy content the normal way? without 23 ironic memes and tiktoks sprinkled on top.
also, does anyone else here get annoyed at how some people latch on throwaway/very minor/background characters? it just comes across as very tryhard, like there's no actual passion for the character, just the need to be the first to like the character no one else cares about. there's nothing wrong on liking the main character or mascot.

No. 2436030

>>2436012
The server owner needs to be more strict or else the annoying ones will take over until they ruin the place, and then get bored with it after they chased others away. Having an 18+ requirement is good, even if there's nothing inappropriate being posted. I can't even get along with most people 21-23 these days.
> can't younger people in fandom just enjoy content the normal way?
No. Fandom among the younger generation is not about the source material. It's about fandom community, fandom trends, and the source material is just their little toy blocks that they don't actually care that much about.

No. 2436032

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>>2436012
that sounds wretched, sorry nonna. tbh makes me realize that i lucked out because the server i spent a few years on always just straight up banned annoying people and ended up staying around 30 close friends. there was a few teens there that were able to fit in well and play around with the others.
>silly fun
mobbing people is silly fun??

No. 2436056

>>2436012
I feel this. My gut tells me I was probably this annoying when I was a 15 y/o into fandom, but even then I was out there putting all my effort into making poorly-done fanfic and fanart of my OTP.
It feels like so many people only want to engage with a work through regurgitating memes, and they only care about fandom so they can have a group to belong to/interact with, and the actual content of the source material is incidental.

No. 2436139

Media with the worst fandoms/fanbases? I'm going to go with Ongezellig.

No. 2436141

>>2436139
Zenless Zone Zero

No. 2436146

>>2435872
I love suits but I also love male playboy bunnies.

No. 2436147

>>2436139
Jojo and homestuck
Shit media, shit fandoms

No. 2436150

>>2436139
as an outsider, maybe genshin and genshin-like games (like cookie run… sorry). i've never seen genuine joy coming from those fandoms.
anything that aims younger, like no one 18+ would like this. sprunki, dandy's world, maxdesignpro (that stuff has an actual fandom and i can only wonder why).
anything featuring heavily ugly walled men, whether they're 2d or 3dpd. bands, youtubers, videogames and/or shows that had another target audience in mind (ie. was for middle aged men but tifs latched on it), so on.
obviously fotm that start right out of the gate big like mouthwashing or tadc.
cartoons that aren't either for kids or adults but stunted manchildren. su, craig of the creek, ducktales, she-ra, voltron and other wanimes, owl house, amphibia, etc.
stan twitter, both of western and eastern artists. oh my god. i'd be down for a stantwt cringe thread.

No. 2436151

>>2436150
What is it about cookie run fans? I played the game pretty casually for a little bit but everytime I saw stuff for the fandom they were all batshit insane.

No. 2436153

>>2436139
my hero academia

No. 2436157

>>2436139
Generally speaking anything currently on air/still in the public eye has a shit fanbase. Most fandoms finally calm down about 5 or so years after the source media ends because all of the attention seekers, kids, and coomers find something new, leaving only the most autistic to rebuild society.

No. 2436158

>>2435851
We already had coomer, though. Why did the word goon get more traction like that?

No. 2436159

>>2436139
coffin of andy and leyley with 0 competition imo

No. 2436169

>>2436158
Gives a bit more of a grotesque vibe since it's more guttural?

No. 2436170

>>2436158
I'm guessing because people use it so much now that it doesn't have the same impact as an insult, I mean, people now are proudly claiming to be coomers. Also >>2435881
>It's just scrotes trying to make women look as bad as males, like how they started calling non-pickmes "femcels" because the word "incel" being used despectively was hurting ther feefees

No. 2436173

>>2436139
Any FOTM just because it attracts the worst clout chasers and bigger fandoms mean more shitty people. Homestuck and Voltron fans are their peak were terrible too.

No. 2436178

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Posts like this are strange since no ones cared about OCs in over a decade.

No. 2436227

>>2436159
All the threads I've seen on 4chan of this game literally only talk about incest and fetish shit. I've never seen anyone talk about the gameplay or story.

No. 2436233

>>2436227
Is there even a gameplay? Isn't it one of those RPG maker games where you only walk around and click on things to see a story, with no gameplay challenge?

No. 2436236

>>2436159
Can't be worse than The Loud House. Or MLP:FiM

No. 2436241

>>2436139
Based on consequential impact.
Homestuck
Steven Universe, Gravity Falls, MLP, Voltron
Genshin Impact
AoT, MHA, and Chainsaw Man

No. 2436395

>>2433661
>>2433704
>>2433709
why is it that women and young girls hate this type of character instead of just enjoying it? like >>2433743 said it's clearly made for them. is it that they're scared of indulging in their own fantasies? men would never react like this to the male equivalent of such a character and setting

No. 2436401

>>2436141
I'm surprised ZZZ retained a fair amount of handmaidens. Give them yurislop and they lump in with the trannies and incels.

No. 2436407

>>2436178
Really? It seems like people love ocs more than ever, I’m always seeing new ones from artists with thousands of likes. More recently I’ve only seen the mary sue complaints on brujoari’s Kate though

No. 2436430

>>2436178
>cringe culture is dead! Stop criticizing my shitty oc!

No. 2436432

>>2436401
what's up with yurislop and sudden influx of troons?

No. 2436449

>>2436395
Because
>REEEEEEEEE THIS UGLY ASS DYKE IS RUINING THE SCENERY EVERY GIRL NEEDS TO BE PRETTY AND SURROUNDED BY PLAIN BISHOUNENS SO I CAN SELF INSERT INTO HER GET THIS BITCH OUT I'M NOT A FUCKING LESBO EWWWWWWWW

No. 2436453

>>2436178
>>2436407
Zoomers use OCs and self inserts as terms interchangeably and love dunking on literal children so they make these snarky posts about how cringe a 12-year old's shitty Genshin Mary Sue is while calling them "OCs". Happens on Lolcow all the time too.

No. 2436454

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What causes this extreme level of pickmeism in women? I choose to believe all female lolicons are pickmes besides rare causes like yuripedo especially since this woman has a boyfriend. She's blasian so I wonder if it's racial insecurity or she got molested as a kid.

No. 2436456

>>2436432
Men don't feel threatened or cucked when another female character interacts with their waifus (for the most part) so it's a loophole to write characters without making them only exist to suck off the self insert.

No. 2436465

>>2436454
Fairly sure that she has no self respect due to extreme insecurity and is pandering to the bottom of the barrel men because she thinks that's all she deserves. I used to know a girl just like her who even did the same kind of traced generic overrendered hentai art and she was being groomed by pedo men online.

No. 2436484

>>2435747
Yeah, he's alright-looking, too bad he's one of the most egotistical, insecure and hypocritical vtubers I've known. He was willing to play daddy dom and do rapey ASMR for his mentally ill Chinese yumes, but after he answered a discord call to one of his female colleagues during a "date" asmr, his die hard fans lost her shit. He quickly disowned them but came crawling back because his earnings diminished and has been flip-flopping ever since.
Oh, and he once had a meltie because he posted a picture of his belly fishing for compliments, and every single one of his yumes told him he had a dad bod kek

No. 2436485

>>2436454
yea probably a blasian thing

No. 2436490

>>2436485
Do blasians really have a track record of doing this stuff though? Or are you just saying that?

No. 2436493

>>2436484
didn't he also groomed someone?

No. 2436503

>>2435964
I’ve never in my life called another woman a gooner for liking whore men, nor have I heard other suitfags say it either. I think you’re strawmanning when the real critics are men who hate female sexuality. Be careful you’re not mistaking TIMs for women, nona.

No. 2436512

>>2427309
This has made me realize that faggots and LGBT absolutely ruin fandom spaces with their woke shit and constant need to make everything "queer". I just want a utopia of straight women sperging about our interests together happily.

No. 2436516

>>2436454
Literally exposure to internet degeneracy at a young age. She even said her parents don’t care or probably don’t know what all that stuff is. Probably used the internet unsupervised too.

No. 2436519

>>2436454
Isnt this the girl who confirmed her pedo moid fanbase was sending cp in her dms? And then complaining about it as if she didnt drew toddlercon porn

No. 2436521

>>2436454
>her family encouraging her
Again, what's with these people being so open about their fetishes with their family? First Fanny Perret, then that dickishly pickme from the artist salt thread and now her.
>>2436519
yup >>>/m/464614

No. 2436523

>>2436454
mokou faggots are the worst. just say you're gay and get on with it.

No. 2436528

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>>2436519
Probably, all of these pickme lolicon women blend in the same so it's kinda hard to tell. That's why female lolicons make me laugh, they're often far too moral for the community they're apart of yet have the interests of an /a/ moid who has the room of Kaoru Yamazaki while simultaneously having the syntax of a middle school girl from Tumblr in the mid 2010's. It's funny as fuck

No. 2436540

>>2436521
dickishly is open about it as well?

No. 2436555

File: 1741536804109.jpg (Spoiler Image,79.89 KB, 850x721, 1000020539.jpg)

>>2436540
Speaking of the devil, I read a theory from a nonnie on here that dickishly is actually an overweight POC, beyond being an obvious TIF. This is based on 70% of her art being a freakish white guy preying on a fatass ambiguously black girl. Ever since I learned this theory, it never stopped adding up in my intuition.

No. 2436556

>>2436540
my bad I misremembered, it looks like it was one of her friends >>2322437

No. 2436563

>>2436556
is that the same woman who did that one goofy Nagatoro cosplay?

No. 2436564

>>2436555
>>2436454
would it kill these pickmes to open an anatomy book

No. 2436565

>>2435883
> both of which are highly flattering for a man’s figure
why do suitfaggots always say this when we all have eyes and can see men in suits just look like squares?

No. 2436569

>>2436564
If Dickishly really is an overweight POC, it makes sense that she would have trouble drawing her humans in a way that's not retarded looking. How can you draw with anatomical sense if you fail to make anatomical sense IRL by being a fatass AND a TIF?

No. 2436586

>>2436564
>twitter porn artist
>anatomy
pick one

No. 2436597

>>2436012
>does anyone else here get annoyed at how some people latch on throwaway/very minor/background characters? it just comes across as very tryhard
I find it odd. There’s this artist I know who likes these two background characters because of their connection to her husbando despite them having negative screentime, it just feels forced. I’m also sure it’s an attempt at masking jealousy since one of them is canonically attracted to him

No. 2436609

>>2436555
wait its only a theory? As a black girl myself, I clocked instantly that the person that drew this was black. I hate to say it, but no other race has this weird obsession with skinny white incelish moids dominating them other than chronically online weeb black girls.

No. 2436612

>>2436454
its 100% racial insecurity, black girls that are really into anime like this tend to be insecure about themselves because the chronically online anime fandom is very hostile towards black people. I'm shocked she's even dating a black guy and not some white obese 4chan dwelling moid.

No. 2436623

>>2436555
Is her guy OC intentionally modelled after the Welcome to the NHK protag? They look very similar or maybe that's just the incel phenotype.
>>2436609
Can you explain the logic behind this and why it's common with black women in particular?

No. 2436634

>>2436586
Why can't both be done?

No. 2436639

>>2436586
there are a lot of porn artists who are really good at anatomy, but you can tell its because they are actual coomers getting off to their work rather than attention starved pickmes

No. 2436657

>>2436139
MLP, it's the reason I believe we should gatekeep moids from any fandom

No. 2436675

>>2436139
any fandom around little girl cartoons and all the pedoshit gacha games

No. 2436677

>>2435863
>>2435878
>>2435884
Slandering people who shit up fandom tags is a valid discussion. I'm there to discuss fandom, not scroll past thousands of shitposts and reposted memes

No. 2436688

>>2436453
OCs are shit, I don't care about some autists self-inserts. It is bottom of the barrel for creative output. Create an entire new story for your precious OCs instead of trying to exploit the rest of the fandom for pity attention

No. 2436692

>>2436688
You did a great job demonstrating the point. Congrats!

No. 2436708

>>2436484
>he once had a meltie because he posted a picture of his belly fishing for compliments, and every single one of his yumes told him he had a dad bod kek
KEKK deserved. Reminds me of that Dream faggot posting his face thinking he'd get compliments. I swear scrotes lack so much self-awareness is genuinely insane

No. 2436712

>>2436484
Kek Vox's insane Chinese yumes coming after him after he purposefully baited them with the demon daddydom boyfriend experience thirst traps was glorious. For once mid tier men are getting served a piece of the humble pie.

No. 2436726

>>2436692
Kek I didn’t see the original post, read that anon’s reply, and was genuinely confused

No. 2436750

>>2436453
OC has always been used interchangably with fanon characters.

No. 2436800

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>>2436623
>Is her guy OC intentionally modelled after the Welcome to the NHK protag?
Thought he looked like the protag from Fire Punch.

No. 2436812

>>2436623
rambling ahead.
I was a black pickme that used to hangout on 4chan all day etc. since those were the only group of people I felt I could connect with.
The type of guys I grew an attraction to, or so I thought, were edgy 4chan /r9k/ types that didn't give af about anyone but themselves, and simped hard after women as long as they agreed with them on literally everything.
I was very socially starved and accepted the "cool black girl that likes niche anime/manga, hates rap, and wasn't overly offended at edgy stuff" title (basically not like other girls, but black edition), and pandered the most to them for attention because I felt like I couldn't get that attention from anyone irl.
It was a lot of self hatred, internalized (and semi externalized) racism, and just being chronically online in the 2010s that caused it all.
I'm much better now, but it's easy to recognize when I see it. (mostly due to stereotypes, a white girl/guy would not be drawing some incel moid pounding a black girl.)

The isolation you go through as a black girl that is into very alternative things can be very destructive, especially if you don't live in a diverse/open minded area.

No. 2436845

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>>2436712
if there's one thing about Chinese yumes I like, its that they dont play and drop moids like yesterdays garbage if they stop giving them what they want lol. His numbers dropped so hard when he decided he didn't want to do ASMR anymore for his fanbase lol. We should all strive to be like Chinese Stacies.

No. 2437179

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No offense but I’ll never understand women like this, like what did you expect?

No. 2437186

>>2437179
Yea not to victim blame but was this not expected? So many pick mes act surprised when moids do what they do best, be degens.

No. 2437192

>>2437179
How does a vn full of scat eroguro even have merch? Why is she even suprised

No. 2437196

>>2436708
I didn’t think Dream looked hideous or anything like that but he deeply miscalculated what teen girls are into.

No. 2437208

>>2437179
Huh? Are you seriously saying she should be okay with being publically threatened with rape because she likes an eroge?

No. 2437209

>>2436845
This is cracking me up

No. 2437221

>>2437208
first of all it wasn't a threat and second, she deserves degenerate comments for being a degenerate

No. 2437227

>>2437208
Nta but do you know what euphoria is even about . That qrt isnt shocking at all shes pandering to a pedomoid she got the response she got

No. 2437230

>>2437179
Absolutely disgusting how moids treat other women with the same interests.

No. 2437233

>>2437221
Yeah, saying you deserve to be raped sure isn't a threat

No. 2437240

>>2437179
I am 100% sure she's never even played the VN.

No. 2437241

>>2437208
Here we go

No. 2437245

>>2437208
NTA, I don't think she deserves it at all, she just shouldn't be surprised that that's the sort of moid who likes eroge. It's like she was too naive to realize it and if she's gonna be into one of the most degen eroge ever, she shouldn't treat it like it's just like being into cute shoujo manga or whatever. She should be more self-aware.
But of course there's no excuse for a moid that wishes rape upon a woman.

No. 2437246

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>>2437233
nice pearl clutching though over a pickme sperging for a loli rape game

No. 2437249

>>2437233
The moid said it. why are you blaming on the anon faggot

No. 2437251

>>2437208
I think the anons are getting at the pattern where pickme weeb girls consistently seek out the most nasty, extreme media to base their personalities on (Euphoria is a nasty eroge don't look up the contents) and are always shocked when the scrotes in the fanbase don't give them special treatment. Not to victim blame, but it's obvious why they fixate on this type of media in the first place and it SHOULD be obvious how the men in these spaces will react, but for some reason they're always blindsided.

No. 2437274

>>2436453
It's confusing because people forgot that the term "FC (fan character)" already exists for characters you make for a pre-existing work of fiction not created by you. They're not OCs, self-inserts or Mary Sues.
A Mary Sue can be either an OC or an FC. Mary Sues often get accused of being self-inserts, which they may or may not be.
Self-inserts can be either OCs or FCs, or be literally just you.
An OC is supposed to be a character you made for your own fictional world.

No. 2437278

>>2437179
>check out comments
>multiple people saying how it's a deep exploration of trauma
>another says that Euphoria's "whole point is that violence against women is a society's learned and forced behavior that men should be able to break free from"
>OP is very confused and offended as to why she would get such a comments
>comments are mixed between other pickmes going "oh em gee, how could he say that!!!?" and more moids doubling down
I want to have sympathies, but I can't. If you lay in mud, don't be surprised when you hear pigs squeal. I don't get how they don't have the self awareness to not only posture themselves liking that kind of crap but being shocked when that shit attracts the very obvious demographic. Why do they do this? Why do women consistently join these fanbases and then get shocked when the fanbase reacts as it obviously would?

No. 2437288

>>2436454
>racial insecurity
Why would it be that?

No. 2437291

>>2437179
Well, first of all, she absolutely doesn't deserve to be raped over being a coomer pickme. Secondly, this is a far wider problem than just weeb women being pickmes, it's girls who grew up terminally online with no supervision, got groomed into treating absolute degenerate moidshit like this as a quirky personality trait to be special. Women should have agency, but this kind of pattern is so far enabled that every time I step out of my comfortable fujo/husbando bubble I'm absolutely shocked by the vast amount of otaku women who base their entire identities on begging for crumbs of male validation by increasingly demeaning themselves and seeing hypersexualized 12-year olds as a baseline for female character design because that's literally all their world is. That said, yeah, you really should expect comments like this because it's clear you're looking for provocation.

No. 2437293

>>2437274
>An OC is supposed to be a character you made for your own fictional world.
This isnt true. Why are you lying when you can go to deviant art and see people call their sonic donut steels 'ocs' since ancient times.

No. 2437298

>>2437274
We seriously need to bring the term FC back to put a stop to OC slander once and for all. It was used all the time to refer to fan characters back in the 00's no matter what the retarded revisionists are saying.

No. 2437308

>>2437293
But… anon is right? "OC" is short for "original character", and FC was a known and used term. Just because they were conflated doesn't mean she's wrong?

No. 2437320

>>2437179
Pathetic. He can’t even say the word ‘rape’ but he sure can jerk off to it.

No. 2437345

>>2437291
Why does this phenomenon only happen to women though

No. 2437356

>>2437345
Nonna are you seriously claiming that men don't simp for hentai girls and fill their rooms with coomshit

No. 2437363

>>2436503
I didn't reply to her because that accusation was so absurd I didn't even know what to say kek. It's like… Have you never looked at the husbando threads? Did you come from some other site and assume we were like them? If a woman on here calls other women "gooners" for liking 2D mansluts I assure you they think the same of nonas who like husbandos in suits. These normalfags hate any woman who likes 2D at all, period. And of course moids love projecting onto women and being hypocrites, they're the ones who always call us gooners when female degenerates aren't even half as bad as male degenerates.

>>2436609
NTA but I thought the "theory" was the overweight part. Now that anon mentions it, I can see why. Many pickme artists who draw their self-insert as "curvy" with big breasts are fat in real life.

>>2436812
Not American or black, but I used to be a pornsick pickme NLOG on 4chan many years ago too. I got addicted to porn at a very young age and used the internet unsupervised after that. Then I started going on 4chan. It really fucked me up. I was always a tomboy and started to develop unconventional interests for a girl when I was little, and being shy in real life really didn't help. Due to the lack of girls I knew in real life that shared my interests, I (mistakenly) ended up relating more to moids, and becoming an internet addict only exacerbated it.
About 3 years ago, I looked something up in a 4chan board's archive because I was trying to find some info, and accidentally found an old post of mine where I said the most shockingly disgusting, pornbrained shit ever about other women. I couldn't believe myself, my life and brain really did a 180° when I stopped being a pickme NLOG to the point that I even forgot I ever said those horrible things. And yeah, I also had a phase where I was close to becoming a TIF, but thankfully that didn't end up happening.
I think if I had socialized more with girls who were into nerdy and boyish stuff like me, and if my parents hadn't been so lax about porn and internet use, I would've never ended up like that. But at least I'm comfortable being an unfeminine woman and hate scrotes now, so it is possible for a terminal pickme to snap out of it, unless she was seriously mentally ill.

No. 2437372

>>2437356
NTA but you don't see men building shrines for regular ass otome games (and they have actually attractive MC's on top of that)

No. 2437374

>>2436139
mouthwashing hands DOWN

No. 2437383

>>2436139
it's easier to name fandoms I actually like

No. 2437386

>>2437345
Why do you mean "though"? We all know it only happens to women, she didn't imply otherwise. Her post already explained how, the answer to "why" is because women are treated as second-class citizens everywhere you go.

No. 2437388

>>2437356
The equivalent would be men pretending to be into BL or otome for female attention, not their usual hentaislop

No. 2437391

>>2437372
>But why don't men, in a heterosexual male-centric society constantly exploiting women for their sexual value in every facet of their lives and pornifying every single thing we do, become male pickmes to simp for a niche game genre made for women's desires for intimacy?
You tell me.

No. 2437400

>>2436139
>Hololive
>anything moids are obsessed with in general

No. 2437431

>>2436139
Whichever one started the moralfagging and lgbt rep nonsense, from what I've gathered from this thread its apparently the Homestuck one
Also seconding vtumor fandoms

No. 2437517

>>2436139
>>2437400
Honestly helldivers, deep space galactic, and Warhammer make me want to alog so bad because the fans are so drastically unfunny. But all of these pale in comparison to the utter cancer that is western hololive fandom.

No. 2437521

>>2437431
It started brewing in the Homestuck fandom but it was Voltron and Steven Universe that really let the tard flag fly and unleashed everything

No. 2437523

>>2437374
I agree with this, but it's less the "mouthwashing" fandom and more "annoying twitter spergs who pretend they're horror superfans but are really fotm faggots"
>>2437517
What's going on in the helldivers fandom?

No. 2437537

>>2437400
It's funny how Hololive's fanbase is considered terrible by outsiders to vtuber spaces but within them it's Nijisanji's fans that are considered cancer lol.
Makes sense though since Hololive is by far more prevalent and the issues with its fanbase are a lot easier to understand for the uninitiated.

No. 2437539

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>>2437374
Okay as bad as mouthwashingfaggots are, there is no way they are worse than the steventards, or the bronies. Mouthwashingfaggots will draw and write Jimmy raping pretty much everyone except for Swansea (kek), but bronies have drawn and written so much worse Sweet Apple Massacre. Steventards had their peak year in 2016 and I remember those faggots acting like actual police officers whenever anyone drew a fatass character skinny, or Garnet just slightly lighter. Bronies and Steventards MOG mouthwashingfaggots in terms of both degeneracy and retardation from the moon and back, man.

No. 2437546

>>2437521
Outside of its bad fandom, is Voltron actually good? I’d ask on /m/ but I dont see a dedicated thread

No. 2437551

>>2437539
NTA but it's not the faggots who draw Jimmy being a rapist or being raped or whatever who annoy me. It's the dweebs who have to write 14 tweets about how 3deep5u mouthwashing is and how important rape narratives are for blah blah psychological horror done right blah blah blah representation.

No. 2437553

>>2437546
It's mediocre but otherwise funny on the first two seasons, after that it goes off the rails with the lore/plot consistency and the ending shits on every single character's arc

No. 2437559

>>2437551
I definitely agree with you about all these try-hard literary "experts" swearing that Mouthwashing is Silent Hill 2.0 and just soooooo fucking deep and brilliant or whatever the fuck, but I felt like that was mainly because of it's burst of popularity from YouTubers like Coryxkenshin or ManlyBadassHero, and the "yaoi potential" between Jimmy and Curly.

No. 2437560

>>2437559
>Coryxkenshin
God I had a friend IRL that had the biggest crush on him and it was mortifying to hear about.

No. 2437564

>>2437559
How interesting! The "literary experts" I see are angry about the jimmy x curly yaoi and very vocally against it. There's all this masturbatory posting about how it takes away from "the real narrative" aka the rape they're obsessed with making the entire game about. They're all annoying, or course, but I think it's kind of neat we're seeing two different circles of speds here kek
I wonder if Anya would have even half as many fans as she does if the topic had never been broached. I feel like "rape" is the only aspect of her character these dorks care about.

No. 2437586

>>2437546
If you like space stuff, it's high-quality junk food. It also has a male 'sempai, beloved sempai' pairing with excellent shiptease if you like that kind of thing.

No. 2437594

>>2436139
Definitely Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss, or just Vivziepop stuff. you can't even say you don't like her or her eyesore slop without these defensive autistic rage spergs harassing you.

No. 2437606

>>2436139
The loud house if you could even consider it a fanbase.
attracts some of the bottom of the barrel degenerate moids and is what sent the artist jcm2 into the deep end of selling out to loli degeneracy, i consider it the V2 of the mlp brony fanbase

No. 2437607

>>2437564
>I wonder if Anya would have even half as many fans as she does if the topic had never been broached.
NTA I understand the appeal of Anya appearance-wise but her role and personality are uninteresting. Even the rape subplot aside she's just the anxiety-ridden demure archetype which is alright but not as captivating as some people make it to be? It's always a wonder when people write essays about her.

No. 2437625

>>2437607
>appearance-wise
She's just Shelley Duvall in socks and sandals, right?

No. 2437648

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Gen Alpha might make fandom even more retarded

No. 2437651

>>2437648
the anons in here are just as bad about non canon shipping lol

No. 2437657

>>2437607
her mannerisms and actions throughout the game are so inconsistent. i get it's to conceal the plot twist but she genuinely acts nothing like a pregnant rape victim.

No. 2437668

>>2437648
>weird
These kids have such a dogshit vocabulary kek, learn some new words already, I'm sick of seeing retarded teens use "weird" for everything because they can't commit to the opinion of calling someting perverted or degenerate or are straight up too uneducated to put their thoughts into words properly.
>>2437656
Because they flood communities like locusts and ruin it for everyone else, one of the reasons online fandoms suck ass these days is because kids won't stop treating it like it's fucking daycare and throw tantrums when the adult members disagree with them on anything, and let's not forget how some fandom adults DO have a preschool teacher complex and will police other adults to "protect" the children that shouldn't even be there in the first place.

No. 2437676

>>2437657
I agree and it's to the point where I did not even understand that she was meant to have been raped. I thought she and Jimmy were going through routine relationship shit that moids put women through.

No. 2437680

>>2437672
NTA blocking does nothing in the long run, we're now living in the after effects of zoomies ruining fandom

No. 2437682

>>2437672
NTA but this is a salt and discourse thread, she can post things she finds annoying about fandom, including the tards who shit it up kek

No. 2437686

>>2437680
>Implying fandom hasn't been insufferable since the 2010s

No. 2437687

>>2437539
honestly yeah, only "bad" thing about mouthwashing as a fanbase is 99% of the fans have a rape fetish. other than that i havent seen anything terrible, and they seem self contained in their own fandom circles.

No. 2437689

>>2437656
They are fucking everywhere and constantly start shit or spam or whine, every fandom or game Discord server is ruined by swarms of kids

No. 2437690

>>2437672
You could say that about everything posted in here

No. 2437700

>>2437687
I wish they stayed self contained.

No. 2437725

>>2437717
There's kids obsessed with things for adults and shitting up fandom spaces for nearly everything. LADS is a good example. What are you into that doesn't attract any children?

No. 2437736

>>2437731
>I'm just into the most obscure media ever you wouldn't understand
LADS isn't "Childrens media" though. It's clearly targeted towards adults, but you said only people who consume children's media have to deal with annoying kids. And you know there's minors shitting up NuCani spaces too, right?

No. 2437894

>>2432579
Dead ass how can anyone yume over shit like this

No. 2437900

>>2437717
Unfortunately, kids don't just consume media for kids. Most adults (who aren't pedophiles or autistic) aren't into Bluey or Paw Patrol but the amount of kids 10+ I've seen openly post about R rated movies and M rated games is concerning.

No. 2437914

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No. 2437918

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>>2437539
>as bad as mouthwashingfaggots are, there is no way they are worse than the steventards, or the bronies.
Or Homestucks, especially after the fandom was taken over by social justice around 2012ish. Picrel is two posts submitted to a Homestuck confession blog in like 2012, and you can already see the brainworms setting in.

No. 2437922

>>2436139
No one's mentioned Voltron yet!? One of those schizos literally tried to blackmail the animation studio into making her ship canon.

No. 2437923

>>2437922
Was it Voltron where someone sent a fanartist poison cookies or was that something else?

No. 2437929

>>2437918
I feel very schizophrenic when I look at this image and can physically feel the moment when not just tumblr but fandom in general was going to be consumed by retarded activism and turned into shit. But to be fair, weren't there hints of this behavior in lj?

No. 2437931

>>2437929
There were signs of it on LJ towards the end of the 2000s as I recall but most of the fan fights there were text based simply due to the format and so there was a lot less sperging about fanart simply because you'd most likely have to link it from your dA or another hosting site instead of upload it directly to your blog.

No. 2437935

>>2437923
You're thinking of an incident in the Undertale fandom where someone sent a fanartist cookies with needles in them over a ship they disliked. The story from Voltron is that someone allegedly sent a writer cupcakes with shards of glass in it, but both of these stories are similar to the Homestuck sharpie-bath one in that it's largely unsubstantiated and likely made up. However, the blackmail thing I mentioned is actually true: some girl (or let's be real, probably an enbie) took a tour of the studio where Voltron was animated, secretly took photos of unreleased material, and threatened to leak it if Klance wasn't made canon.

I'm also surprised no one mentioned One Direction fans, who were psychotic in all sorts of colorful ways (shout-out to the anons whose friend allegedly shoved a Liam doll up her butt). I heard that RPF shippers in that fandom got so schizophrenic that they actually convinced themselves that two of the guys were genuinely dating and their management had orchestrated an elaborate conspiracy involving realistic baby dolls and whole fake families of paid actors. Vidrel is old, but it has lots of anecdotes in this vein.

No. 2438007

>>2437274
>>2436453
I agree, it's just a change in semantics.

>>2436407
If anything it seems like her characters are actually supposed to be flawed, maybe to a fault. How much can you really criticize characters who don't actually have source material though?

No. 2438013

>>2437517
>>2437523
Helldivers really? It's one of the better fandoms I've poked around in recently. If I had to guess what that nona's issue with it is though is that since the game doesn't have any named or even persistent characters it seems to have promoted roleplaying as the primary form of fan content. Comparing it to Warhammer fandom isn't unreasonable but Warhammer nerds have always struck me as way more insufferable than Helldivers fans because Helldivers has a comedic presentation so I think it attracts a more casual type of player.

No. 2438095

>>2438013
I'm not saying they're the worst, I just get annoyed by all throat shoving and feels crypto-conservatives in it's ranks. But if you told which fandom I'd rather be in I'd pick helldivers no question asked.

No. 2438139

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>>2436634
because 90% of horny art (goonslop) on twitter looks like picrel, you can tell they draw it for engagement baiting. Thank good ai is replacing them

No. 2438140

>>2438139
Can ai even replicate that style without looking weird?

No. 2438145

>>2438139
jesus, guilty gear strive was a mistake through and through. I don't think i've ever seen a fandom completely fall apart into troonism and goonerism like it did, even with the fanservice from the older games. I guess thats the audience they were trying to foster, though. Fighting games in general are fucked.

No. 2438147

>>2438145
I did not know this was Guilty Gear until you said that. Holy shit that's bad.

No. 2438179

>>2438145
Yeah Strive killed my interest in the entire game series in just one game. They ruined literally everything. Male characters are now uggos, Testament and Bridget are confirmed troons, female characters were turned from sexy fanservice to full on brainless degrading goonery.

No. 2438185

>>2438140
Easily. Coomslop is so common and formulaic, it's one of the things AI excels at. The most "convincing" AI images I've seen have been anime-esque pinups like this.

No. 2438188

>>2437648
You know this is either a child or a turbo autist, because all of the examples in the thumbnail are kiddie slop.

No. 2438218

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>>2437179
And you can tell these type of women are doing it for attention once you see them foam at the mouth over shit like Genshin which is probably closer to their actual interests when they aren't acting for attention. I'm not saying women can't like eroge or whatever, but you can tell when it's all just a front because they got sexually abused as kids or want moid validation.

No. 2438221

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>>2438179
Yeah, the Testament reveal itself killed any hope or enjoyment I had of the series (hurts so much to know since he is one of my favorite character he will never recover from this, he really will always be a tranny fetish character now). It just showed their main audience nowadays is porn artists on twitter and trannies who will buy up merch instead of playing the actual game, and that's why they have that upcoming anime and shitty Cyberpunk crossover character being added. We live in the dark ages of fighting games, honestly. It'll be interesting to see what they do with the next game and if they'll just keep straying further down this retarded path.

No. 2438235

>>2438221
>>2438179
Spoiling for blog If I knew the slightest thing about game programming I want to make a fighting game for women someday but idk if that'll come to pass given the internet hates straight women for being totes evil and terfy

No. 2438238

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I haven't seen the anime itself but does anyone else remember quite a few years ago when troons and ironic weebs were shitting on LOGH for being "elitist" or whatever the fuck? And then their favorite anime was tranny shit like Madoka Magica or K-on kek. Wonder if it's because the MC is a cute bishie as well.
>>2438235
Ironically enough, right now is probably one of the best times to make a game for women like that. Just look at the popularity of stuff like LADS and Infinity Nikki.

No. 2438240

>>2438238
NTA but I wish more people played Western indies. I understand why they don't (lots of ugly gendieslop and grifters etc.) but it makes me feel like I'm screaming into the void sometimes.

No. 2438251

>>2438240
Have any recs? I avoid western indies precisely for that reason honestly, but I'd be willing to expand my tastes.

No. 2438261

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>>2438235
A fighting game with a bunch of sexy male characters and fujobait would be a dream, honestly. I think it could work, especially with modern controls, as long as it has good solo player content. Seeing the amount of female fans that got into SF6 because of Luke and Jamie and their shipbait was such a fun time, honestly. Not to mention, KyoIori was huge in the 90s (an old SNK developer even said the fujos saved the franchise when it was being play tested) so I would love for another game to pander to them solely.

No. 2438263

>>2438240
>Western indies
i have yet to see a western indie game with appealing male characters

No. 2438270

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To this day I am still absolutely baffled the creator of Azur Lane is a woman, imagine being so much of a pickme cunt instead of using your influence and power to create a game featuring cute boys, you create a game for balding degenerate fatties. What a stupid bitch, I wonder what her thought process is because she says her favorite anime are Gochiusa and Fate Kaleid. If this woman got raped I'd laugh, she got the male validation she wanted so desperately at long last.(a-logging)

No. 2438277

>>2438270
I can see a woman making a copy of kancolle to griftmaxx. AZ is probably the most soulless game ever, and i say this as someone who likes gachaslop.

No. 2438278

>>2438270
Tbh I think they put her as the face/creator of the game for marketing reasons. Think about the failed males playing AL that would get giddy because a pretty woman actually created their worthless coom games. There is no doubt there are a bunch of men behind the creation and funding of this game.

No. 2438279

>>2438251
Idk what your taste is but I recently enjoyed Bomb Rush Cyberfunk. If you wanna see bishies, I liked the first chapter of The Silent Kingdom. But to continue my complaining, I hate how if you wanna make games, you basically have to either make literal who stuff that people ignore or work for a big company that hates women. I try to support non gendie devs as much as I can but sometimes I feel like I'm making pointless things kek.

No. 2438295

>>2438270
they rejected her for saying the truth(taking the bait)

No. 2438301

>>2438270
Realistically, anime girls bring in more money. Unfortunately moids are more profitable so stop being a poorfag and start throwing money at pretty boy projects.

No. 2438303

>>2438240
I played a few that were fortunate enough to not have that sort of thing. But like diamonds in a dung mine, not often do you see a western game free of cucked shit.
>>2438261
I love darkstalkers to bits and still mad at capcom for damning away any hopes for a sequel. Maybe someday I'll make the monsterboy fighting game of my dreams.

No. 2438306

>>2438270
laughing at the thought of a woman getting raped? I hate radfems(taking the bait)

No. 2438309

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>>2438301
> anime girls bring in more money.
actually, this isnt true.

No. 2438311

>>2438309
Women make about half the mobile market if not more, this isn't news.

No. 2438313

>>2438311
Kek did you see the moids sperging about this though?

No. 2438315

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>>2438261
play the fallen angels

No. 2438317

>>2438311
I don't think she was framing it as news, just telling the other anon that husbandos make money too.

No. 2438329

>>2438311
>women spend more money on this garbage

Not sure if this is necessarily a good thing but alrighty

No. 2438331

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>>2436139
It's Blue Archive and it's not even close. I'm more amazed that there are a ton of women who play this game and defend it. I genuinely think there's not a single person who plays this shit that isn't a pedophile.

No. 2438337

>>2438331
I just like the characters and the gameplay, dont lump me together with these scrotes

No. 2438340

>>2438331
That video is a nightmare

No. 2438349

>>2438331
Every time this game gets brought up I feel the need to bring up the fact that this game continued to hire dorontabi, even after it became well known he had CSAM on him >>2162743
>>2438337
Meh you'll live

No. 2438359

>>2438331
I swear this game's fandom is absolutely insane even by lolishit/gachashit standards.

No. 2438373

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>>2438315
I've played it many times, I love Yuiren and I think it has one of the best overall aesthetics in fgs. I hate the two ugly green guys, though. Its still based as hell for being the only female character and not being sexualized at all, a shame that the completed edition announced a few years back never was actually finished/released. All the character expys in the SNK games are such downgrades too.

No. 2438399

>>2438331
>I'm more amazed that there are a ton of women who play this game and defend it. I
Pickmeism and desensitization to illustrated child porn can do nightmares to a woman.

No. 2438403

>>2438303
>still mad at capcom for damning away any hopes for a sequel
I'm okay with this, I don't need to see Demitri or Jedah looking super uggo like a SF guy.

No. 2438486

>>2438270
I wonder if she's responsible of the coomshit or the designs, because gooners love bringing her up to show that all women are degenerates. I can't imagine being that stuck up on cowtit lolis wearing a loincloth instead of a proper top.

No. 2438490

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>>2438331
>>2438399
It's easy to handwave it as pickmeism, but you won't understand what makes women like it

It has a cute artstyle, that might be it, but Princess Connect which is similar only had 5% female players
I believe this is the case with Blue Archive too, the other "female" users are pedo troons

On a surface level it's a popular anime media that gets a lot of art, that alone is enough to attract outsiders who like collecting figures or drawing fanart. The gameplay itself is innocuous, until you actually bother reading the story in a gacha and the fanservice moments.

The true evil is in the incel fandom of the game on sites like reddit and 4chan where they fully encourage the sexualization of the characters and want them raped (meme about it), and this is even more so disgusting because teens like using these pretty anime aesthetics they see and then try to seem cool and fit in with the discord groomers.

No. 2438496

>>2438490
>I just play for the artstyle never mind the in game cunny jokes or lolishit characters!
Holy copium.spinless fags like you who keep BA in business despite the company doxxing women artits and hiring actual pedophiles,Keep licking the shoes of pedos like dorontabi.(infighting)

No. 2438505

>>2438496
Anon you are fucking retarded. I am talking about teens being lured with the example of cute art I'm using.

No. 2438514

>>2438496
They don't even pay for the game nonna? I'm not defending BA nor the artist behind it, but by either consuming second hand or being f2p, you're just a number to them.

No. 2438516

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>>2438490
Its literally just because it has cute characters who are less sexualized than the average waifu gachaslop, which is saying something. Also, the 3D chibis are cute, the battles are fun and the skill animations are really entertaining to watch. The game also has a an event where they raise they probability of getting 3 stars and you can seriously get like 4 stars in a single pull, its very generous in that regard. They also give like a 100 pulls every few months. The whole artstyle is pastel and soft and the characters are more varied than in other gachas. Its interesting how blue archive has the most annoying coomer moid fanbase when the character themselves arent that obscenely coomery.

No. 2438517

>>2438505
Oh my bad I thought you were the gross BAfag we have here who always comes to defend this slop

No. 2438519

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Why are Worm fans like that, what compels them to do these autistic hyper specific crossovers, there's probably some Worm x The Brothers Karamazov fic out there.

No. 2438532

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>>2438516
They have a ton of sexual designs what are you on about? Half of the loading screens are like pic related. I swear to god the idiots that defend this game always use the same 3 non sexual designs to justify this garbage.

No. 2438535

>>2438519
It's a web novel written by a man which naturally has themes which resonate with men. I can't add much else since I don't read worm but have known men who seem to like it, mostly for power scaling, waifus, and other retarded shit.

No. 2438539

>>2438532
I said they are less sexualized than the average gacha, not that they arent sexualized at all. Learn to read. If you compare BA's design to something like Azur Lane they look like night and day.

No. 2438560

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>>2436401
You can play a game for the male characters, it's at least a well made game. I like games like Fear and Hunger, Dragon Age, BG3 and rhythm games- so my options for playing something on the phone on my daily commute are limited other than solving sudoku.

LADS is cute, but I check it just for a minute for the dailies.
Enstars has challenging songs but the shipping and fandom is a nightmare.
The rest is mostly simpler games that don't get much funding to make 3D combat etc.

Joseimuke are really restricted by the industry having male producers that want to axe them, I really enjoyed Helios Rising Heroes but the content died down. Everything else is male pandering games of varying degrees from full coomer to mild.

No. 2438605

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>>2438516
You're not alone anon, I play this game from time to time when I'm on the bus just because it's fun turn your brain off slop and a lot of the character designs are really cute. I'm F2P so I don't think I'm giving them money anyway but am retarded so I don't know for sure, since I avoid gachashit like the plague besides this and LADS.
>>2438349
>>2438496
This shit is gross though, I thought dorontabi was just an obnoxious lolifaggot, not an actual pedo. Also when did the company dox female artists? I'm not doubting you. Oh well, it won't hurt me to put down the game knowing both of these if I'm actively contributing to its income.

No. 2438611

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>>2438605
>I thought dorontabi was just an obnoxious lolifaggot, not an actual pedo.
How wrong you were

No. 2438615

>>2438611
Ew. Somehow I'm not surprised. This is why I think there's a clear line between lolifags and shotafags because I've never once seen a (female) shotafag come out of the woodworks to defend and encourage pedophilia like this. Anyway, I'm glad Korean radfems harassed him off having a platform. Based.

No. 2438617

>>2438615
He's still on Twitter

No. 2438618

>>2438617
Disappointing. I still have faith in my Korean sisters to humiliate him further though.

No. 2438621

>>2438331
Why does the last guy walk like a monkey/ape

No. 2438634

>>2438615
I hope they come back for a fatal blow. I want to see his face so badly. Apparently he's a teacher at some art college in korea and won awards.

No. 2438635

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>>2438611
nta but This is unironically the worst thing I've ever seen. Even with the spoilers it's still awful.

No. 2438640

>>2438611
The fact that those child magazines even exist to be sold in japan is fucking vile

No. 2438651

>>2438611
Bet we'd find the same dirt on waterkuma. Lolitards are always transparent with their pedophilia. Always.

No. 2438655

>>2438640
Wait, are those not clothing or toy catalogs? What the fuck are they?

No. 2438658

>>2438640
The dvds they sell of kids are even worst.

No. 2438660

>>2438605
How did you miss all the content of the girls flirting with the player who is an older male character they call 'teacher' and the pinup homescreen art?

No. 2438663

>>2438655
Nta but it's child gravure magazines

No. 2438667

>>2438660
I haven't gotten that far in the game but either way in the case of flirting with the teacher I honestly don't give a shit, that doesn't really bother me for the most part and I swear I never saw the pinup homescreen art or I just don't remember. I know this is a game for coomer otaku moids albeit less extreme than most stuff like that.

No. 2438671

>>2438615
A Korean shotafag raped a child and than ran back to Korea where cp laws are shit. Theres no such thing as a virtuous pedophile regardless of sex and its highly naive to think that shotashit isnt also hugely consumed by pedo moids. Stop trying to compare them because they are one and the same which is child exploitation porn

No. 2438674

>>2438671
>O-ONE WOMAN RAPED A POOR MOID FROM A STORY I READ ON WIKIPEDIA THAT LIKELY ISN'T TRUE! THEY'RE JUST AS BAD AS MEN DOODS!!! MEN GET RAPED TOO!!!!

No. 2438675

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>>2438655
they look like idol magazines with pictures of underage girls
>ages 12-15
what the actual fuck is wrong with men?

No. 2438678

>>2438238
>does anyone else remember quite a few years ago when troons and ironic weebs were shitting on LOGH for being "elitist" or whatever the fuck
What? I'm a fan of LOGH and this is the first I'm hearing of this. Granted though, I don't hang out around Xitter and Bluesky tards, so that's probably why.

No. 2438680

>>2438671
Is there proof of that? i have only seen moids bring that up to try and call korean feminists pedophiles. I have never seen actual proof and the fact its only brought up by coomer moids trying to discredit a feminist movement makes me doubt its real.

No. 2438694

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>>2438261
I know it's considered "woke" or whatever, but I'm so grateful Hades was enough of a success to get a sequel. So much fujobait and hot guys, plus the game is beautiful and fun. More of this type of thing, games industry, I beg.

No. 2438698

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>>2438490
>Reddit spacing
>defending lolislop

No. 2438705

>>2438532
Is the girl with the pink hair reading yaoi???

No. 2438711

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>>2438694
Literally. Zag is my husbando. I don’t like males with bong accents but I’d make an exception for him because he’s perfect. I love Than too.

No. 2438712


No. 2438718

>>2438703
weird that there is no mention of her actually raping a boy in the article? she got arrested over the alleged cp but in wikipedia it says she raped a boy. wtf

No. 2438720

>>2438698
Nta but learn 2 read

No. 2438722

>>2438698
>>2438516
Wrong quote I think,you meant this one.

No. 2438723

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>>2438718
I tried finding the old article an anon posted but ig it got deleted

No. 2438726

>>2438723
>kiwifarms

No. 2438727

>>2438723
Unfortunately western feminists will never be this based, considering that even on this so called "radfem" website there are retards who seethe over shota which isn't even real but still try to equate it to lolicon which has been far more harmful.(shota/loli sperging)

No. 2438729

>>2438727
>Unfortunately western feminists will never be this based
What

No. 2438731

>>2438727
Most people aren't going to support sexual drawing of kids

No. 2438736

>>2438723
>banning derogatory slurs against gay men

Weak

No. 2438737

>>2438727
Sexual relations with a male (irregardless of age) is against the teachings of radical feminism

No. 2438739

File: 1741642829163.png (1.08 MB, 1200x1246, 12002.png)

>>2438694
Hades is one of the few wokeslop games I can tolerate because there are actually hot male characters
>>2438729
What? Most of them are suckups.
>>2438731
They're moids, not only that, but fictional moids. Who fucking cares?
>>2438737
Fair

No. 2438742

>>2438739
>hot male characters
He looks like geriatric Leon Kennedy

No. 2438743

>>2438742
Reasonable. I think it's the eyebags but the grey skin doesn't really help either. I could've chose a better example, still find him hot though.

No. 2438744

>>2438743
NTA but I think it's just the art style rather than the design itself.

No. 2438747

>>2438744
Agreed. The designs would have looked better had it not been drawn by a western artist.

No. 2438759

>>2438739
>>2438727
You've gotta learn to just agree to disagree, we can't have anothee stupid shota debate. You have to understand where those women are coming from at the very least

No. 2438771

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>>2438655
it's the junior idol industry

No. 2438774

>>2438759
NTA, but you severely underestimate just how many times this infight can play out. I hope anon who does the samsara threadpic edits makes the next thread.

No. 2438786

>>2438737
So if I drew het porn that's on equal terms that's somehow not within the radfem doctrine?

No. 2438814

>>2438771
Hold on, its still legal?? I thought they got rid of junior gravure idols

No. 2438824

>>2438747
The game would've looked worst if it was by an Eastern artist, be honest. The female characters would've ended up grotesque with huge tits.

No. 2438830

>>2438727
there’s nothing based about actual pedophilia, freak

No. 2438832

>>2438814
Nta, but I think they only banned the production of gravure involving 5-12 year olds, teenagers are fine for some reason though

No. 2438839

>>2438694
How is this game woke?

No. 2438842

>>2438839
Because the women aren’t hot enough or something idk ask coomers

No. 2438845

>>2438839
I think moids were mad that the artists made some of the Greek Gods black

No. 2438850

File: 1741647452795.webp (133.2 KB, 648x803, Aphrodite .WEBP)

>>2438824
>The female characters would've ended up grotesque with huge tits.
They already are

No. 2438855

>>2438850
shit bait

No. 2438856

>>2438850
nta but she looks fine. Her proportions aren't crazy or anything

No. 2438858

>>2438850
I mean she's Aphrodite

No. 2438860

>>2438850
Who tf cares they also gave Dionysus a massive dong in 2

No. 2438862

>>2438839
They portrayed Hephaestus as a fat faggot in a wheelchair instead of a buff hot dude.

No. 2438864

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>>2438860
Dionysius looks like gender swapped Rarity, and I'm not sure if I dig it.

No. 2438868

>>2438862
anon hephaesyus was never hot he was a weird crippled hunchback dude why do you think aphrodite cucked him with ares lol

No. 2438871

>>2438864
Why did they make him so ugly in the second game reeeee

No. 2438872

>>2438864
Not saying it was good, just that it happened.

No. 2438874

>>2438850
Her face should have been prettier. Why are Melinoe, Nemesis, Hera, Medea all mogging her kek

No. 2438879

>>2438874
I mean they gave her a makeover in the second one and moids said she looked more like a tranny. I don’t really see what’s wrong with her face in general.

No. 2438882

>>2438879
I think the situation improved in 2 actually. In the first portrait it's the super pronounced cheekbone that bothers me and the greyish skin color. The pose remains stupid imo but those two things were improved. Moids are stupid.

No. 2439018

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>>2438139
some coomers are good. You can tell they are passionate about the big titty anime girls they draw and tbh i can respect that as a fellow drawfag. But you aint going to get this level of craftsmanship from attention whore like usa and pickmes like >>2436540 Skill is how you separate the attention whores from the legit autismos.

No. 2439039

>>2438839
Because it's western and panders to women instead of pandering to the most bottom of the barrel coomoids, that's literally it (unless there's some gendie shit I'm forgetting)

No. 2439157

>>2438879
>>2438850
I agree she isn't as pretty as you might expect but I can't really tell why that is. I think it might just be the chiseled cheekbones that are making her look a little off but I could be wrong.

No. 2439164

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>>2438879
>>2438882
She looks ugly to me in both games honestly. There's just something weird looking about her face.

No. 2439166

>>2436139
Capeshit is pretty bad. Any fandom dominated by teenage moids is awful, but superhero shit is the worst. I'm seriously considering posting yaoi just to scare them off.

No. 2439171

>>2438270
>thinking a woman is actually really in charge of this chinese kancolle knockoff boat slut gacha trash
>thinking womenn in china are in charge of anything
anon i…

No. 2439182

>>2439171
Yeah, it's not like she had the power to make any decisions at the company. Next time ignore anyone who wishes rape upon other women though

No. 2439184

>>2439164
Thank you! She's ugly in both, and I'm tired of people saying otherwise. How the hell can the goddess of love and beauty be so hideous? She's not even close to ancient Greek standards of beauty either

No. 2439186

>>2439184
Kek if she was, she'd just have a dude's torso with boobs awkwardly pasted on

No. 2439192

This general will never be pleased with drawn depictions of women.
>uwu kawawii lolis are bad (obviously)
>big tittied women are gooner bait
>cartoons are either stupid or goon bait
>tumblr fat design women are ugly
>ana chan sticks are ugly
>anime faces are too uguuu while western art gets called manface
>something medium and mild like aphrodite from the second game is still ugly

No. 2439194

>>2439192
I was gonna say this kek. This thread has gotten so bad

No. 2439211

>>2438739
c'mon we're talking about little boys here, dislike teen and adult moids all you want but i don't think we should call this behavior "based", fake or not.
>>2438731
this too, male or female the vast majority of people will think you're creepy if you like sexual imagery of things that are supposed to resemble children. now i don't want another shota infight so let's talk about homestuck or something.

No. 2439259

>>2439192
Wondering if it's the same nonna doing that kek

No. 2439302

>>2437648
>anti non canon shipping
This isn't even a new thing though, just look at the Inuyasha and Ranma fandoms they're still going at it to this day. I find it more weird how someone actually got assmad enough by a channel that barely cracks 1k views.

No. 2439304

>>2437648
This genuinely feels like autism. I can't imagine any other reason why you'd be so upset about people essentially just playing dolls in fandom.

No. 2439332

Can someone please explain to me if people actually care about "well written female characters"? I saw someone say certain female characters have more depth in comparison to another group but when I tried looking for fanfiction or art about the "better ones" the well is still so dry in comparison to the "bad" ones despite years between the creation of both. The same people who tout this claim always focus on their own favorite characters, nothing wrong with that btw, but then also go on to bitch about how underrated their supposed favorite female characters are. Like, there are analysis posts (not that many tbh) sure but imo they're also mostly headcanon and in some cases make it look deeper than it is.
I feel like it's all performative shit sometimes, it's not like I don't get what they mean but it's weird how some don't see the irony in complaining while doing the same shit, especially when the character they actually like and create content for is underrated too.

No. 2439334

>>2439332
Well written female character for babies:
>has her own goals independent of mc or a scrote she likes
>has flaws (but not like 'tee hee I'm so clumsy')
>has likes and dislikes, something she's passionate about

Everything else is non-character fodder

No. 2439346

>>2439334
And if they got it all and still get underrepresented in comparison to "lesser" female characters? What does that say?

No. 2439353

>>2439332
They claim there's none so they can focus on the (male) ones that make their pussies wet. Easy as that

No. 2439363

>>2439353
I was more so comparing female characters who are said to have more depth but get far less attention than other female characters who they say aren't written well enough. Although yes, the complaint I saw did come from mainly yumes and or fujos but they also happen to be het shippers too. They're writers or fan artists who occasionally bring up how better their fav girls are but proceed to do nothing else. I'm just wondering why the theatrics.

No. 2439370

>Join IRL meetup group for specific niche
>"Omg trigger warning for this content guys a character kissed another one without permission"
>"Wow thats so uncomfy um. Ew. I'll be avoiding that one"
>Constant moralfagging anything that doesnt have 0 conflict
>"So anon what is your favorite?"
One that'd make you people fucking explode apparently. I will not be attending this meetup kek.

No. 2439393

>>2439346
Nta but in my experience it’s usually because she doesn’t fit into popular character personality/design tropes or she’s not in a popular lesbian ship. It’s a shame but ultimately unsurprising, I’ve learned to live with it.
I actually prefer the lesser attention sometimes because adhd zoomers missing the most obvious details, mischaracterizing my favorite female characters beyond recognition(either to demonize her or box her into a trope), and trying to force their interpretations on the rest of the fandom is excruciating kek. I’m in a fandom for an asian media where the east and western sides have nearly opposite interpretations of a female character and of course western fans are way more rude and annoying about it.

No. 2439395

>>2439370
>Join IRL meetup group for specific niche
I thought virtue-signalling about media only survived online…

>>2439332
>>2439192
>>>/m/271969

No. 2439411

>>2439395
Nah, I've encountered virtue-signallers irl multiple times at this point. Either they're mildly annoying like that meet group or batshit insane. I witnessed groups of girls screaming at vendors about BL doujins at anime conventions twice now which is very odd considering everything is clearly marked and you have to show ID to even look.

No. 2439439

>>2439395
I wish. My own friends do this. We'll be talking about normal topics or what we played or read or watched recently and they'll sperg that Lizzo is a HAES icon and made them feel proud of their morbid obesity or that Harry Potter is so haram that even being nostalgic over the movies or books looks suspicious to them. And they often shove their phones in my face to show me screenshots of clickbait and ragebait in fandoms so I find it easier to avoid this online than irl.

No. 2439450

>>2439439
>their phones
This is where we've gone wrong.

No. 2439515

>>2439450
It's insane how even I manage to not be on your phone all the time myself for plenty of reasons these friends put theirs 10cm away from my eyes to show me bullshit. Once one of my friends started sperging and crying when we were all in another friend's living room trying to have fun because one of her online friends from some video game "copied" her OC powerpoint presentation and ruined the rest of the day for all of us with her bullshit even though I managed to finally escape fandom drama onlind years prior to this. She showed all of us both of their presentations on her phone to make us agree that the girl using the same shade of green for the background was in the wrong with tears in her eyes, it was really pathetic and wouldn't have happened if she kept her phone in her pocket and participated in our conversation.

No. 2439544

>>2438674
two things can be bad at once even if one is more prevalent.

No. 2439552

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Can someone explain Rance fangirls to me?
All I know about the franchise it that it's a porn game with some creepy fetishes, rape or bestiality?, but from time to time I run into women proudly declaring themselves fans of it.

No. 2439560

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No. 2439561

>>2439560
Do you know this chick anon or is it a common subject you run into?

No. 2439563

>>2439560
>NOOOO ELSIE DONT LOOK AT IT!! FORGET! FORGETTTT
>>2439552
Same reason these retards like euroguro porn games, attenrionwhorism syndrome and contrarianitsis

No. 2439568

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>>2439552
The MC is a chad.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 2439571

>>2439568
>small dick
>green thighs
>ugly spiky brown hair
>cape
>improper armor
>lame sword
Nah

No. 2439603

>>2439571
You forgot retarded face kek

No. 2439636

>>2439186
I'm referring to her face, not body

No. 2439653

File: 1741711884448.jpg (689.37 KB, 1830x1435, RANCIOD.jpg)

its funny i still have this buttchin pickme in my files kek(don't engage the troll, just report)

No. 2439658

>>2439653
this is just someone larping as her

No. 2439669

>>2439658
I confirm. The mod is a retard. >>>/ot/2439648

No. 2439683

>>2439669
>larps as someone who shitposts all the time
>gets banned
>mod's a fag KEKEKEEKEKE

No. 2439700

>>2439683
Saying that 'Rance is a chad' is not a LARP - it's just a factual statement. Do you even autism?(ban evasion)

No. 2439734

>>2439018
That drawing is rad

No. 2439742

>>2439186
Anon, it wasn't the ancient Greeks who did that, it was Michelangelo, an Italian artist from the Renaissance. And he just did that because he was a fag who only wanted to sculpt men instead of women kek.

No. 2439751

>>2439353
How dare those women have fun and be horny, the nerve. Why can't they be Good and Moral and Pure like you, and be exclusively attracted to well-written, conversatively dressed women?

No. 2439789

The Genshin thread is so funny. All nonnas do there is complain about the current state of the game and pray that it gets shut down, yet they refuse to quit playing

No. 2439791

>>2439395
Thank you for linking that, anons n this site will do everything except use the correct threads for their sperging kek

No. 2439792

>>2439789
I like reading it for fun. They probably cant complain about it elsewhere anyway

No. 2439795

>>2439184
>>2439164
every character in this game looks hideous i will never understand why the moids are shilled as attractive when they look like ass. The artist is terrible

No. 2439798

>>2439789
I don't understand how they're so attached to the game's mediocre husbandos (who are definitely never seeing the light of day again after Hoyo went scorched earth on their fans) that they can't just uninstall it and seek superior 2D boyfriends out from other media, or hell, play ANY game that isn't live service slop.

No. 2439802

>>2439789
Most of the anons posting there, including myself, stopped playing and are now venting at the recent direction of the game. It was one of the very rare fantasy omnigachas that didn't revolve around coomery and it was irreparably ruined by incel pride.

No. 2439804

>>2439802
True, but every time I see someone posting like "I'm considering rolling for this banner, is it worth it?" or "maybe I should just play until X story beat", I can't help but admire gacha companies for their unparalleled ability to grab people by the (metaphorical) balls.

No. 2439860

>>2439795
THANK YOU. I like hades as a game but this werid bisexual heaven meme feels so dang forced to me. How are any of these characters remotely good looking? And when you do post a good looking character they whine that's it pedo shit or some type of -phobic. It's really making me debate if I should get hades 2 now.
>>2439798
Fire emblem literally exist? Or really any semi-old jrpg. Don't tell me you consider 3d video game characters as 3dpd? I figure you might not like Love and deepspace either

No. 2439869

>>2439789
I just wanna see Gacha community drama kek. The devs have proven they can go even lower so I'm waiting to see how cucked the players are gonna become by the time we reach 2026.

No. 2439874

>>2438864
>>2439164
This art looks like shit. The anatomy looks traced off glitched-out CSP models.

No. 2439886


No. 2439901

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>>2439886
Okay…

No. 2439905

>>2439332
A lot of people are just now coming off the tumblr microlabel soup and still have their guard up by calling every female character bad so they don't get hounded for taking more interest in hot male characters. More people care about well written female characters than you think, and they tend to be more honest about their praises/grievances when they're not forced to perform. From what I've seen in these threads and lc most nonas just like a really cool female character with an interesting story. Not every character has to solve feminism or whatever. Sometimes you just want a cool fucking story with a cool fucking character

No. 2439911


No. 2439912

>>2439874
>>2439795
I've never liked the art or the characters either. Some of them look so retarded too. The art reminds me of polished tumblr shit.

No. 2439916

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>>2439332
When will people realize that you can like a character without drawing and writing fanfiction of them. Lucille is my favourite female character in all of sitcom but i aint gonna draw art and write fanfic of her to seem performative to the libfem crowd. There are tons of female characters i love but i exclusively draw male characters because liking a character isnt directly related to wheter i want to make fanart of them or not.

No. 2439925

>>2439164
I like that it's a genuinely unique art style, honestly. And to be fair it does take place in ancient Greece where modern beauty products/standards didn't exist, of course everyone is gonna look a little bit rugged. The statues of the gods from back then looked like relatively normal people.

No. 2439951

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Moids be like
>NO SEXUAL EUPHEMISM HERE

No. 2439954

>>2439925
Geek female statues don't look like her either. She has a manface. Looks like a tranny. The other characters look fine so idk why this one in particular looks so bad.

No. 2439955

>>2439954
>The other characters look fine
No, they dont. The moids look walled as fuck.

No. 2439979

>>2439901
>confusing composition
disgusting. you only need to draw one character, any more than two is just showing off.
>unrealistic poses
are you a moid or what? women don't have wings and cannot fly in the sky.
>painted on a ceiling
ridiculous. get down from there.

No. 2439982

>>2436401
Never played ZZZ but I heard it's trying to do like psuedo fujobait with a male idol character who has an all male fanbase but does want to do any between the actual playable characters?

No. 2440004

>>2439954
I don't get this site. The moment a female character moves away from traditional femininity she's suddenly a tranny or a man? You literally sound like that grummz fag who loves sperging about woke feminist making women look like ugly walled men.

No. 2440008

>>2440004
This site is 99% weeb, nonna, anything that isn't weebshit frightens them.

No. 2440012

>>2439954
Who gives a shit

No. 2440014

>>2439552
I mean isn't there a pretty active, nsfw/DOL thread on /m/ currently? Women can also have some shitty kinks.

No. 2440018

>>2440014
To be fair, that's still not as bad as Rance because DOL is at least customizable.

No. 2440021

>>2440008
>This site is 99% weeb, nonna, anything that isn't weebshit frightens them.
Kek, I figured the weeb brainrot made them hate men that look like men and women that look like women.

No. 2440023

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>>2440018
>Male protagonist
>Everyone else is set as male
Lets go gamers

No. 2440028

>>2440018
I've browsed through some of people's post so I never really sure, but it seems like a pretty split of male and female protagonist. Whether or not the rest of the cast is male/female, idk. Seems to lean male most of the time.

No. 2440031

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>>2439982
It has one of the stranger cases of coomer male "omnipandering" I've seen. Hoyo seems to have wanted a slice of bara furry money with that huge bear character you get for free. It's so random and out of left field except for another male dog furry character. I wonder what's their angle here?

No. 2440035

>>2440031
Something, something, suspiciously rich furries.

No. 2440036

>>2440031
They're non-threatening to men, nonna. If he were a pretty boy most of the incel fanbase would riot.

No. 2440038

>>2440031
I guess it's not super uncommon with modern franchises? Street fighter also pulled this kind of thing with straight male and gay male gaze.

No. 2440054

>>2440008
For real, anons will shit on mainstream women's tastes in fictional men because they're "ugly scrotes" part of a psyop

>>2440023
>cuckshit
>unironically worshipping male mcs
Lol

>>2440014
There's a difference between women liking content that abuses women and liking content that abuses men

No. 2440055

>>2440031
Not only furfaggotry, but its also a way for them to say "we have males, we're not like other coomer games! look!"

No. 2440058

>>2439916
I get that, I similarly have favs that I don't draw about, my issue is when the same people also like to bring up how these underrated female characters don't get enough attention while doing nothing about it.
Btw I'm not complaining about well written female characters not getting enough attention, I'm just trying to figure out why the same people who complain about it do nothing about it themselves. It might just be like nonna >>2439905 says though. Fucked up the reply.

No. 2440073

>>2440054
>unironically worshipping male mcs
I'm down for any type (yaoi, yuri, hetshit for moids, hetshit for women) as long as it's done well and is sexy
Yaoi is just the most sexy by far.

No. 2440075

>>2440073
Well, except bara the characters are usually pretty hideous.(learn2delete)

No. 2440076

File: 1741732138896.jpeg (Spoiler Image,12.48 MB, 5000x3475, zo3xf84mdhne1.jpeg)

>>2440055
People calling ZZZ or guilty gear coomer is so silly when Nikke, Azur Lane, Brown Dust 2, Destiny Child, Horizon Walker etc exist
Check those if you want to rage about coomers

No. 2440090

>>2440076
Is it your first day ITT and your mouse wheel is broken?

No. 2440097

>>2439751
Hey so I wrote nothing of the sort, but I did read the OP wrong so I'm retarded anyway (but not wrong in the general sense)

No. 2440099

>>2440076
They're all coomslop

No. 2440105

>>2440102
how do you have two skinny animu male characters and none are attractive? incredible

No. 2440148

>>2440102
How sad

No. 2440166

>>2440102
The way his asshole is drawn looks fucking disgusting

No. 2440201

>>2440102
Most awkward and sexless yaoi ever created

No. 2440343

>>2438694
>hot guys
Litteraly where? All the characters in that game look fucking disgusting

No. 2440345

>>2440031
THAT bear is from zzz? i thought it was from marvels rivals or valorant or another game like those kek

No. 2440359

>>2440345
I think marvel rivals is adding a furry but not one of the ones that bara guys froth over

No. 2440361

>>2438694
All those guys are so ugly aside from Thanatos

No. 2440366

File: 1741746918331.jpg (133.54 KB, 996x888, GNPD4QvWAAAyCXz.jpg)

>>2440361
its the art style probably. isnt moros just a longer haired thanatos?

No. 2440384

>>2440031
Pandering to both straight and gay men is very interesting. They really want an all-male fanbase huh

No. 2440408

>>2440031
Is it possible to make a male anthro character that appeals to women?

No. 2440410

>>2440408
yes lol, see all the male disney foxes

No. 2440412

>>2440408
Shadow the hedgehog (I don't get it either but I can't deny women love him)

No. 2440418

>>2440408
Legoshi had some female simps

No. 2440420

>>2440408
The character would have to be a monster tbh, but there's also something about the art style that's subtle that makes me feel like a character was made by/for women, it's dumb but it's there somehow.
Unironically the Disney anthros are made for women, that's why there's women into the Robin hood and the fox from zootopia.

No. 2440423

>>2440412
I get why lots of women like shadow, he's the ultimate (kek) dark brooding tortured hedgehog -"man"-with a sad past in which he was learning how to open up and had to clam up so his feelings didn't get crushed by anyone in this sad twisted world.
Like personality wise he's literally perfect for anyone who is into saving the guy from his tortured mentality, design wise tho, it's the only reason he may not be the best furry/anthro option for anyone who is just starting to dip her toes into furry shit.

No. 2440424

>>2440423
That's why I don't get Shadowfags or modern Sonicfags in general though, there's plenty of other brooding edgy boys that aren't hideous hedgehog creatures from kusoge.

No. 2440428

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There's this MLP yuri artist that is constantly getting into slapfights over pony shipping. She ships Appledash and sperges out if anyone mentions rival ships on her posts. She also makes hate posts towards other ships and then crybullies when people respond. She also accuses everyone who disagrees with her as being "butchphobic".

She tends to serial delete posts after her crashouts so I don't have a ton saved but she's kinda becoming a personal cow of mine. I don't even dislike the ship, but she takes these colored horse lesbians so seriously.

No. 2440431

>>2440428
>Not shipping lesbian pride with yellow autist

No. 2440436

>>2440431
What? Blue lesbian looks better next to pink tard, since pink tard can't really fly it's cute. Farm horse and city horse 5ever btw and also, I think yellow autist is better off alone or with an actually hot husbando that isn't the ugly man psyop dragon.

No. 2440438

>>2440436
took the words right out of my mouth nonnie

No. 2440439

>>2440428
(GL?) Chinese artists are very militant for some reason. I came across a Kyomami artist that acts the same way. Chinese artists stand up for themselves way more and just tell people to fuck off straight up though so I respect them for that instead of bending over to the smallest controvery.

No. 2440440

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>>2440431
>>2440436
No more shipping wars. We can co-exist.

No. 2440442

>>2440436
Pink tard fucks snails
>that isn't the ugly man psyop dragon
Ironically male bronies would agree with you there, they fucking hate that ship and it was mostly yumes into it.

No. 2440446

>>2440423
Don't forget he also has a strong friendship with a young girl that he isn't trying to fuck. The bar is in hell.

No. 2440450

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>>2440439

Yeah, she's Chinese. I don't have a problem with telling people to fuck off or being publicly opinionated, I just think you can either be the big mean or be an innocent harassed victim. She's trying to do both, while tying baby gay discourse into the mix.

I actually discovered her because a Korean Rarijack artist was accusing her of tracing / style theft, which she partially admitted to. I don't think it's the end of the world to take inspiration but it is pretty funny that she was basing her artistic identity off of shipart that's literally butch genocide or whatever.

No. 2440467

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>>2440450
>What they want in a relationship
I'm fucked then kek.

No. 2440468

>>2440446
>with a young girl that he isn't trying to fuck
Says you

No. 2440477

>>2440450
butch4butch ships seem really rare

No. 2440499

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>>2440408
Anthros targetted at women are rare, especially once you exclude stuff like niche twitter artists, but out there. Werewolves/canine anthros are popular from my observation, there's an anthro dog x human girl shoujo anime coming out this year.

No. 2440501

>>2440499
Whenever it's furry stuff for women it's furry x human but when it's for guys it's kinda up in the air I notice.

No. 2440511

>>2440468
What…?

No. 2440513

>>2440511
Shadow's into heterosexual beastiality

No. 2440515

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>>2440513
No. He’s gay with Sonic.

No. 2440517

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>>2440515
Shadow's homophobic

No. 2440518

>>2440436
I've always viewed it as it being
>blue lesbian x pink tard
>farm horse x city horse
>purple autist x sun goddess
>yellow autist x nobody or stoner horse

No. 2440519

>>2440515
>Sonic not topping
This is wrong

No. 2440521

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>>2440519
Whether the happy guy or emo guy should top really was the ultimate debate of the deviantart/live journal era huh.

No. 2440522

>>2440518

Unfathomably based

No. 2440523

>>2440518
>Purple autist
Her name is purple smart you degenerate. I can definitely see her with sun goddess though (it was probably intended in a motherly relationship but it comes off as more NOTICE ME SENPAI)

No. 2440525

>>2440523
Sure she's smart but she's super fucking autistic and that's okay.

No. 2440526

>>2440518
samefag and I'm changing yellow autist. She should end up with the rhyming zebra.

No. 2440546

>>2439164
I dislike how her eyes seem to melt into her face like there isn't enough contrast. Otherwise I think it's fine though and people are being nitpicky. The game seems to be choosing to have a distinct visual identity and is intentionally sacrificing broad appeal in order to set itself apart so I think it works.

>>2440468
He's not. But I can see a young girl getting interested in the character due to self-inserting as Maria and maybe that's how they end up as adults who are Shadowfags.

No. 2440588

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>>2440031
Meanwhile, this is what the female furry looks like from the same game.

No. 2440593

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>>2440588
To be fair both look like characters guys would be into, you just have to swap the sexualities of said guy.

No. 2440614

>>2440593
>greg
I refuse to believe gays would be into that thing

No. 2440616

>>2440614
Yeah I didn't see much, maybe the gay guy who made the meme just really likes him

No. 2440618

>>2440031
This is just how they try to attract a female audience without upsetting the incels. Female players being treated as lesser and being fed crumbs, as usual.

No. 2440629

>>2439552
They're giga-pickmes who spent too many years in moid coomer spaces and ended up getting into the same media as them. This kind of pickme parrots everything the scrotes say, including but not limited to their claims that rape hentai games are masterpieces. They've also memed themselves into seeing the mid male characters from scrote coomer games as hot, probably because they weren't exposed to anything better. And when all they consume is hentai shit, of course any male character that isn't purposefully drawn as an ugly bastard looks good to them (even if they're internally, subconsciously seething that the female characters are all beautiful and sexy and the male characters aren't).
So, you see them do what the one in your pic is doing to show how much NLOG and cool they are.

No. 2440634

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>>2440618
I'm not seeing how the bishounen characters are any different from the ones in any other gacha honestly.

No. 2440642

>>2440634
I really love Hugo's (the bishounen in your picrel) design and character but holy shit I want to slap people who fall into Mihoyo's trap to goon to 2 good looking guys they're using to bait female players while 90% of the content they add to ZZZ is the worst of the worst moidpandering coomshit Mihoyo has put out since HI3. I won't touch this game or give a cent of my money to this dogshit incel company.

No. 2440644

>>2440634
Oh I was talking about the male furries. They did it in that Atelier game too.

This bishie is VERY cute but of course I'd feel cheated if I had to play a shitty incelpandering coomer game full of shitty hentai designs and ridiculous boob physics like this >>2440588 only to get 1 cute guy who's not even half as sexualized as any random female character. It would feel like psychological torture. I don't understand how these games have such a huge female playerbase, is it a similar phenomenon to >>2440629 ?

No. 2440657

>>2440644
A lot of those women are just broken to the point they consider the sexy women white background noise like "yeah they're coomery but what can you do, it's not like I have a choice". It's normalized to them in a way that makes them apathetic to the issue. Most of my female friends who play ZZZ just latch on to one less sexualized female design and collect the rare boys while ignoring all the blatant porn star females. It's sad, men absolutely wouldn't do the same. They'd commit domestic terrorism if they were made to look at even one sexy guy in their game.

No. 2440674

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>>2440634
I don't play zzz, but picrel is a leak from the upcoming quest. Something about Hugo's face just makes him look incredibly ugly and botched imo.

No. 2440710

Why are some people okay with degenerate shit in straight ships but become moralfags when it comes to yaoi?

No. 2440712

>>2440593
how tf do people find roadhog attractive

No. 2440717

>>2440712
I hope no one here is a man, so you’re gonna need to go to another site to get that (rhetorical) question answered nonna

No. 2440718

>>2440710
Isn't the moral fagging what keeps that content titillating and exciting to you weirdos in the first place?

No. 2440719

>>2440408
Yes, but I find women seem to like or draw anthro content where the furry guy question is kinda anime or semi-realistic. I happen to like the wolf guy from zzz for that reason kek.

No. 2440720

>>2440710
We all know why, nonnie.

No. 2440725

>>2440720
Like on 4chan people will moralfag over a yaoi ship with an age gap when there are /ss/ threads nearly every fucking day. Sick and tired of that shithole website.

No. 2440741

>>2440710
I feel like I'm the opposite kek. Not really moralfagging, but I'm way more tolerant of degenerate shit in yaoi than I am with het.

No. 2440747

>>2440725
I get you. The hypocrisy is off the charts. I had pretty much stopped using that site years ago because of the double standards, but lately, I have been playing a gachashit game whose thread is completely dead here. So every now and then, I lurk there and it's full of the most mentally ill neckbeards and yumes that keep capping for waifufags while shitting on fujos unprovoked.

No. 2440749

>>2440741
That anon is most likely referring to how moids can excuse brutal loli snuff rape with pissing and shitting and armpit sniffing but draw the line at BL having an age gap. Or how hetfags will goon to booktok tier smut in which a family of three different aged men takes turns raping the underage girl who's also their relative while she sleeps but screech at fujos for liking BL with slightly dubious consent.

No. 2440762

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why can't women in fandom simply admit they're straight/bisexual? no one but a few terminally online losers would care

No. 2440789

>>2440762
Wait, Isn't that kinda gay to like the female version of a male character? Unless I'm missing something here?

No. 2440792

>>2440762
It'd be better to just seperate sexuality with manga atp.
Let them be lesbian, just stop making cuntboys ffs.

No. 2440793

>>2440792
Is it weird to say I understand the drive for cuntboys? Not the "it looks like a woman in every way except I call it a man" way, obviously, that's retarded.

No. 2440797

>>2440789
she's saying that the male character would be fucked by her so much that'd he would be a girl by the end, it's retarded fandom slang

No. 2440798

>>2440789
NTA, and probably obvious, but I think the joke is that it's misogyny being expressed by a female/lesbian poster, sort of also tying to how men being dominated are referred to sissies/fags/femboys in porn ("female-like".) It's just degradation through "ironic" misogyny. Kind of pornsick.

I've never been around any lesbians who do this. I bet on the poster not being one.

No. 2440799

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>>2440762
People saying this shit about my husbando makes me want to to slap them with a rubber chicken. Genuinely one of the worst trends on social media

No. 2440803

>>2440408
Legoshi and some of the other male characters in Beastars, that one fox from zootopia thats really popular with Asian women. Also, when I was a kid I had a crush on the talking Lucario from that one pokemon movie. I will admit though, there's not nearly as much anthro content that women can enjoy compared to the ones made for men.

No. 2440806

>>2440762
because its the new version of "pretending to be bisexual/lesbian on myspace for attention" except now they mix it in with fandom shit because they're insecure about being a "boring cis-hetero woman"
most of these types don't even date real women outside of e-dating and idc if that makes them offended to hear and they scream "biphobia". they get pissed because they know it's true and they don't like being called out on their bs.

No. 2440810

>>2440712
its usually gay moids or TIF's/the super pickmechick that find him attractive. havent seen it otherwise

No. 2440829

>>2440747
is it genshin?

No. 2440854

>>2440798
Idk, there's some fotm waifus I'd like more if they're men but that alone doesn't make me a lesbian. Actually liking pussy does. None of these women would go two steps near a girl because real women frighten them.

No. 2440856

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>>2440518
I think it's better like this
>Blue lesbian × pink tard
>Yellow autist × cool zebra
>Farm horse × City horse
>Purple smart autist × knight horse

No. 2440877

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Anons shat on mouthwashing because they don't like how it went about the rape in the plot or that rape was even IN THERE. Anons also talk about not liking it when scrotes try to make any statement on rape through games, stories, or music. But can I just say this right here? Lisa the Painful is one of the games I used to really like playing with, but it kind of rubbed me a bad way to learn that the dev based the original game (Lisa the First) on his ex girlfriend's upbringing, as well as her fucked up father. I don't know about you guys, but if I was raped or molested and a scrote uses that to make a fucking game based on that specific part of my life, I would have to backhand the shit out of him at the very least.

No. 2440881

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>>2440856
These are all good but I prefer Purple smart autist x Blue wizard chuuni. I know it's kind of a scroteship but Tamers in all his retard glory put me onto it

No. 2440885

>>2440856
I like blue x city better but solids picks. I'm not sure if purple smart should be with anyone though.

No. 2440892

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>>2440829
Close enough, I was talking about HSR. The newest region has the most harmless level of fujobait, and this is not sitting well with the yumes who use that site. They literally keep seething in EVERY SINGLE thread about how Hoyo is shooting themselves in the foot by "pandering" to fujos. By their logic, if any male character sells well, it means his sales were carried by yumes. And if he flops, then the entire blame goes to fujos.
To me, this entire argument is crazy. Male characters do not sell well not because they have "homobait" but because they have dogshit kits—and Hoyo has been making so many shitty decisions lately that it has driven away most women. They were claiming that Jing Yuan is a yume character (just because he sold well) when all he did was sleep through the Xianzhou quest. Just today, they were claiming that ZZZ and even fucking HI3 are the superior games because they have male characters that pander to yumes somehow.
I feel like by now, all women - regardless of whether they are fujos or yumes, have realized that Hoyo does not give two shits about them. But the yumes there are a completely different breed. They do not care about any other aspect of the game; their singular focus is beefing with fujos.

No. 2440902

>>2440881
I get you tbh, I think both are good, tamers made a good point on how purple smart autist x blue wizard chuuni would work. Ideally to me, purple smart autist would have both of them.

No. 2440907

>>2440892
I didn't realise people felt so strongly about this until seeing a bunch of Chinese yumes whining on social media about fujo cockroaches making their men gay and how their presence ruins even browsing for fanfiction for them. I can't understand being so sensitive.

No. 2440964

>>2440892
lol, lmao even. To get to this kind of psychotic levels of seething over the white bread milquetoast fujobait in Amphoreus is insane. Literally every single male in that game is tailor made for yumes, the only fujoship that doesn't cross over into extreme copium is Ratio and Aventurine and even with them hoyo has recently been pushing Aventurine as the new Wanderer yume dreamboat of their company. These people should just stick to simping for boyfriend experience vtubers where their mental illness is constantly being enabled. In the future all media we will ever get from Asia is simply all the characters, who conveniently have an extremely calculated pandering personality, wanting to fuck (you), storytelling and developing character relationships be damned.

No. 2440983

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>>2440762
>>2440798
>>2440792
>>2440799
I just realized this is the female version of redditsexual

No. 2441024

>>2440892
I can't tell if Hoyo games naturally attract this level of brainrot or what. I guess they think LADS being successful proved that yumes spend enough money to make them worthy of respect but seem to think fujos have failed to do so which doesn't track? Saying all this just to get whatever scraps Hoyo is willing to give to female players is sad.

No. 2441153

>>2440410
I feel called out. Disney's Robin Hood was probably my first crush as a kid, what is it about him that was so appealing?

No. 2441214

>>2440983
Idk how "sexual dominance" and having a "muscular body" are supposed to be masculine traits in women. Every time I see moids cooming over this the woman still looks and acts feminine as hell.

No. 2441218

>>2441214
>Idk how "sexual dominance" and having a "muscular body" are supposed to be masculine traits in women.
Yeah that annoyed me as well, pure sexism.

No. 2441242

>>2441153
Probably for the same reason as Aladdin, he seems like he'd be fun to go on adventures with.

No. 2441253

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>>2440964
And this is good, all the men and women should be for (me), the player

No. 2441275

>>2440588
Lmao same thing happened in One Piece when they when to the furfag island. I hate scrotes so much.

No. 2441276

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No. 2441285

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>>2440428
>>2440431
>>2440436
>>2440440
blue bpdemon and orange chill farm girl are canon GTFO

No. 2441299

>>2440499
seeing male anime fans moralfagging about this being beastiality is so funny

No. 2441396

>>2440789
This is a whole can of worms that destroyed lesbian and fandom threads on lolcow for multiple days, just so you know.

No. 2441440

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>>2439552
I used to be really active in visual novel spaces, and the answer is that these women got molested as kids. As vulgar as it sounds, I have never seen a female Rance fan who wasn't touched as a kid. If not that they're overweight with low self esteem, sometimes a combination of both.
>>2439951
This is why I cannot stand male lolicons but especially western ones. They'll bitch and moan about how everyone is a tourist for not liking lolislop and fanservice. Meanwhile, they don't know anything about otaku culture and only watch seasonal or memeworthy anime and play gachashit.

No. 2441445

>>2441440
Its almost funny how this pathetic meme gets even used on reddit, while 4cuck scrotes think they're above redditors.

No. 2441446

>>2441299
You're kidding me, right? Are oldfags the only ones who remember the og werewolf fanfiction kekk. Like do men think women were writing it about normie men? There's no point to it being a werewolf, then! Just get some guy and give him anger issues, done deal.

No. 2441531

>>2441299
Weren't they also moralfagging magus bride for having a gizzilion year old monster in love with a human girl? But a guy fucking a billion year old dragon loli is okay, based even?

No. 2441843

>>2440877
maybe it checks out that all the lisa fans i've seen are all males.

No. 2441930

>>2440877
But the rape plot in mouthwashing was actually handled respectfully and more people like Anya than Curly the scrote who didn't listen (aside fujos)

No. 2441986

Random thought- Where the fuck are the scrotes telling lolicons to off themselves? They probably don't touch zoomer gaming communities,I know several normalfags who just play games like no man's sky and live their lives, but when they see loli anime shit they're disgusted.

So is it just a thing with the anime fandom? Even kiwifarms scrotes call out loli degenerates, but if somebody is into anime that isn't shounen slop they'll automatically defend lolicon rights?

No. 2442063

>>2441930
>rape was "handled respectfully"
>we know this bc of how so many twitterfags harass people over anya instead of posting about curly!
Anon please. You can like a game and still admit it's mediocre. I, too, like slop, but I don't pretend it's high brow intellectual art.

No. 2442096

>>2441986
Recently I've seen men call out other men for being into loli stuff, but its hard because of the current climate on many social media. Most men who call out lolicons are also coomers themselves, just not the lolicon kind. I've been seeing it more frequently, surprisingly, but it's mostly turning into poltard lolicon vs zoomer shonenfag.

No. 2442147

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>>2441214
>>2441218
it's referring to shit like this

No. 2442154

>>2442147
There is not a single man alive who looks like emiru. Social media microcosms are making women too delusional

No. 2442173

>>2440588
It's pretty ridiculous but the male furry is just as sexualized it's just pandering to very specific, different taste. At this point I don't think anyone is playing ZZZ that isn't OK with the OTT fanservice. If you still play that game AND bitch about it, that's kind of on you. The game isn't exactly pulling a switcheroo on people.

No. 2442202

>>2442063
I've never played Mouthwashing, but I'd genuinely like to know why it wasn't handled respectfully.

>>2440710
>>2440725
You need to understand that moids who "moralfag" over anything women like while simultaneously liking shit that's 100 times worse are liars. They don't give a fuck about anything but cooming and shitting on women. The only women who say the same things these scrotes say are NLOG pickmes who unironically, naively believe any lies their obese Discord mod overlords tell them.

>>2442154
>making women too delusional
Pretty sure that's a scrote meme.

No. 2442206

>>2442202
>Pretty sure that's a scrote meme.
nta this is something that fandom women genuinely believe as well, they truly think that a man with long hair and a dress can effortlessly pass as a woman. they experience a type of porn-induced pseudo-bisexuality similar to moids.

No. 2442219

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>>2440408
Of course it is, what kind of question is this? It all depends on how you draw him.

>>2442173
NTA but the point is that none of the furries appeal to women. The company is intentionally avoiding anything that would upset straight moids which means they don't want to put in as much effort into the fanservice for straight women as the fanservice for men. And tbh I don't think they even put that much effort into the bara furry either, he doesn't look as sexualized as actual furry bara characters usually are (picrel), the design still looks like they're playing it safe.

No. 2442226

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>>2442063
>>2442202
Mouthwashing is a short, 2 hour horror game. You can see it as a movie. It's nothing we haven't seen before, unreliable narrator meets Alien with a twist. But the presentation and writing stood out in the category of indie horror games, which are mostly cheesy 80s slashers or trying to be 2deep4u.

How rape is mentioned in the story:
It's not a shock element or in-your face, it's never even outright said but the player learns it from a conversation Anya has with Curly where she says she's pregnant and the child is Jimmy's, combined with her sinking into depression and fearful behaviour around Jimmy. The story shows how men are willing to ignore the crimes of their friends for the "greater picture". The rape is never scandalized or fetishized, the horror elements come from other things in the story, but the opressing fact of what Jimmy did to Anya lures constantly in the background of the story.

Sadly as they are stranded, running out of food rations and medicine and slowly starting to starve. Anya decides to take her own life while locking herself in a room with Curly who can only watch because he's disabled and will be left in the locked room to starve to death. That's her revenge towards him, though I still think her taking her own life is bleak, but the other crew members end up worse don't worry.

No. 2442231

>>2440877
The rape in mouthwashing is handled well, twitter retards just blew it out of proportion and tarnished an otherwise good story's image. Isn't Lisa's imaginary representation of her abuser a man with a penis head who talks in innuendos? idk it's been over a decade since I played the first game. Knowing the dev based it all on his girlfriend's abuse is the kind of tasteless shit you'd expect from a scrote. I bet he doesn't even understand that someone else's sexual trauma isn't his to explore. This is why you don't tell men about your sexual trauma. They'll either do shit like that, absorb it and make it about themselves or do something deranged like feel jealous for not getting to you "first". The majority of men lack the ability to separate sexual abuse from healthy sexuality.

The only good thing Lisa the Painful did was somewhat accurately depict how much of a hopeless shithole an all male world would be.

No. 2442236

>>2442231
If anything, at least the Lisa dev went full schizo and started self-hating because he's white. His tweets read like those of a retarded child, no wonder he's one of those "male feminists" that just exploited his gf's trauma.

No. 2442239

>>2440518
Purple autist x sun goddess is the best one.

No. 2442246

>>2442219
Oh I misunderstood then. I think there aren't as many female furfags as male furfags but it should be possible to design furry characters they would like and they'd probably appeal to men too. I wonder why they went with such a bara design, I actually don't think straight guys would care about handsome male furry characters too much, definitely playing it too safe.

No. 2442352

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>>2442226
>>2442231
I thought the SA in Mouthwashing was portrayed well but then I played the developers other game "How Fish is Made" and I'm worried he might be a pretentious fart sniffer who accidentally made a decent game about SA. It's free and has a DLC that's a prologue for Mouthwashing.

No. 2442354

>>2442352
Yeah, I played it too. It was completely garbage with one lolrandom joke, the only interesting part was the mouthwashing teaser that showed Curly knew more + his dread. Tho you have to consider multiple people worked on mouthwashing, so maybe that's why the jump in quality.

No. 2442364

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>>2442354
I'm looking at the credits between the two games and these three people seem to be in both
>Jeffrey Tomec (lead)
>Johanna Kasurinen
>Martin Halldin
There's about eight people on Mouthwashing. The only other woman I see beside Johanna is Yasmine Lindberger. She might be the key person here. Picrel is some of her art.

No. 2442378

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>>2442352
He literally is a pretentious fart sniffer, and I don't think he even intended for the relationship between Anya and Jimmy to be rape. Ayrt says she's so fearful of him, but she makes no effort to avoid him or avoid being alone in a room with him.
>>2442364
Johanna might be a troon. Apparently the narrative lead, the art on their artstation kind of sucks and includes penis.
And I did not find the artstyle to be interesting at all. It's a Puppet Combo clone.
repost for dropped pic

No. 2442393

>>2441253
Ntayrt, I know it is not that deep and maybe I am just a killjoy who hates fun, but this is exactly why female self-insertion content has never really been for me. It’s always the same formula - the girl is dressed up all cute or sexy, and the guy is just there. Fully covered. Plain. I have never seen a waifufag draw his self-insert in some ridiculous thirst trap outfit while the girl is wrapped up in a burka. I don't get why yumes like this kind of thing so much.

No. 2442397

>>2442378
i had my doubts too before this interview came out. doesnt seem like a troon

No. 2442398

>>2442378
>Johanna might be a troon. Apparently the narrative lead
Jfc I need to start following some terf curators on steam. Moids have that "Sweet Baby Inc Detected" retard, I should have my own thing.

No. 2442411

>>2442393
>girl is wrapped up in a burka
Not to yuck your yums nonna but I rather she be stylish at best lol.

No. 2442479

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>>2442393
Eh, there's plenty of variety if you check the tag for this ship, I picked that one because I like the pose.

When people put men in skimpy outfits it's usually part of a feminization/trap fetish and it's really gross. Pic related is one of the rare examples that doesn't do that. Men look hottest in disheveled formal clothes or naked, and I only like female main charaters that look cute or sexy.

No. 2442491

>>2442479
>I only like female main charaters that look cute or sexy.
It's so hard being a yumejo when you're constantly surrounded by literal faggots who care about if the female self insert looks hot or not

No. 2442500

>>2442491
I don't want to look at ugly men or women, there's nothing faggy about that. A plain girl? Fine. A fat, acne ridden tumblr OC? Nobody wants to look at that, and drawings naturally lean more towards the first one.

No. 2442503

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That being said, looking for an example of a plain yume OC I found this on twitter, kek.

No. 2442509

>>2442503
Does Francine just not exist in this scenario

No. 2442513

>>2442500
Men have ugly bastard self inserts all the time, I prefer plain self inserts but I wouldn't care if it was an ugly bastard tier woman, why? Because I'm not a literal homosexual. Even in the example you used, the woman is still more decorative and stylish than the male. If you wanna look at hot anime women, there's 9484882 of shows and games for you where you and your homosexual self can be at peace

No. 2442518

>>2442503
I used to be friends with this girl when we were teens KEKKK this is actually the most sane she's been since covid

No. 2442519

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>>2442226
This took me out, knowing the context of his character.

No. 2442521

>>2442518
How does it feel having stood next to an autistic legend? Genuinely happy for her if she's happy kek

No. 2442545

>>2442513
Bisexuality exists homophobe nonna. There's nothing wrong with it, or wanting your yume self to be cute and not a pimply hambeast. Men like ugly bastards because they know their ugly and get off on the humiliation of a pretty woman being debased. It's a fundamentally different thing than just wanting your avatar to be aesthetically pleasing.
>>2442378
Anya is part of a skeleton crew trapped on a ship in the middle of space post-horrific crash and Jimmy's acting captain. There's literally nowhere else for her to go lol. Either she swallows her discomfort for a chance at survival or just dies, and you see what she eventually chose. She wouldn't have inquired why the sleeping quarters didn't have locks or why she didn't have access to a weapon to defend herself with if there wasn't someone she wanted to keep out or defend herself from.
>>2442519
There's no sense in being yume for a character like Curly. Enablers like him are all too attainable irl.

No. 2442553

>>2442519
>nonsharing yume
Has this always been a thing in yume circles or something new started by zoomers?

No. 2442555

>>2442500
It's pretty faggy. When I see prettier and oversexualized women with men in plain clothes I either think its a moid who drew that or a woman with brainrot who can only see women in pornified lenses.

No. 2442557

>>2442553
This has always been a thing in yume circles. Especially on 4chan and irc the community was autistic about it, sharing makes you sound like a redditor calling every anime girl a waifu.

The "riako" part is new, they took that from japanese yume twt and I think it's supposed to mean you act as if your fictional spouse is real and tweet that roleplay.

No. 2442561

>>2442553
Not sure about yumes, but back when fictionkin was really popular & serious (to those teens) in Tumblr "No doubles" kinnies were commonplace.
Considering monoship people also exist, it isn't strange to think the same would happen woth yumes, selfship is just a mix of kin and shipping, two sensible matters to that kind of people.

No. 2442565

>>2442545
>Men like ugly bastards because they know their ugly and get off on the humiliation of a pretty woman being debased
And women do the opposite because they are overly insecure and can only accept beautiful and sexy women as worthy of love from an attractive man. It's pretty cucked.

No. 2442566

>>2442503
female autism is so pure I want to be her friend

No. 2442570

>>2442565
I think you're misudnerstanding, nobody actually "likes" ugly bastards, they treat them as a creature to "tarnish" the pure female character. I think the average woman in my country is pretty, you have to go out of your way to find truly ugly women.

No. 2442575

>>2442545
That's not even bisexuality, that's just being an autosexual and getting off to yourself. Either way the entire point of yumeshipping is the focus on the character you're self shipping with. Bihets and anyone attracted to women like that don't belong in our spaces which is fine, there are tons of other communities for people like them.
>Men like ugly bastards because they know their ugly and get off on the humiliation of a pretty woman being debased.
And this is the issue I have with most yumejo fags, the idea that women are never allowed to be ugly which is alwaays present among a lot of them.

No. 2442580

>>2442479
i disagree with you, i dont think there is anything sexy about a man in formal clothes. It just makes them look insecure.

No. 2442642

>>2442518
Yumes of this level are either total sweethearts or the nastiest bitches you'll ever meet, but they're all crazy.
>>2442565
>women do the opposite because they are overly insecure and can only accept beautiful and sexy women as worthy of love from an attractive man. It's pretty cucked.
Or they just want a cute avatar. It's not that deep nonna.
>>2442575
>Bihets and anyone attracted to women like that don't belong in our spaces
kek chill out. You sound like a Snapewife. Follow your own advice and focus on your favorite character and not what other women prefer for their self inserts. Most women are at least cute and women in general have the ability to recognize beauty without wanting to fuck it, unlike moids. Selfshipping is a personal experience not the fucking Olympics. The bihet boogeygirls aren't out here diluting your brand.

No. 2442674

>>2442503
>kicking the wife + kids + gay alien out so you can be with your husbando
kinda based of this diva

No. 2442710

I'm sorry I find this concept of yume/husbandofagging so dang weird. I respect it, but the lengths some people go through to meme someone to existence is like…how is this not sad? Sometimes it could be the autism but I've known perfectly healthy people who can separate a cartoon crush from reality.

No. 2442711

>>2442398
>Moids have that "Sweet Baby Inc Detected" retard
is that some extension?

No. 2442713

>>2442710
What you're talking about is "riako" >>2442557, usually yume/husbandofags aren't like that

No. 2442717

>>2442642
And why do they want a cute avatar? Because of the societal expectations to look good otherwise you're not worthy of a hot man loving you.

No. 2442724

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I don't understand why lolicon grifters (who are one step away from trooning out) hate black weebs so much(racebaiting)

No. 2442725

>>2442565
>>2442717
what the fuck are you talking about? I'm not even a yume but I find this retarded, wanting a generic self-insert is very normal, wanting to be portrayed like a fat ugly loser is actual cuck behavior

No. 2442730

>>2442725
I think this anon brought that up in the past too, it's a really weird hangup to want ugly portrayals of people in something silly and lighthearted like self-insert romance. It feels more in place in horror stories lol

No. 2442737

>>2442724
kekk i feel bad for laughing but this is so true, they also forget that they defend pedophilia when its the shounenshitter mangakas they like

No. 2442746

>>2442711
It's a trend for steam curators to judge games based on their "wokeness". Started off as a decent attempt to help people avoid genderspecial pandering but rapidly devolved into scrotal retardation. It's to the point where otherwise harmless games with female protagonists or gay/nonwhite characters are being labeled as "woke garbage" for existing. Now they're using "DEI" as a synonym for "woke", which itself has become a synonym for "includes elements that aren't straight whiteguy-centric" so it's basically just whiny scrotes yapping for attention.
>>2442717
>WHY DO YOU WANT TO BE CUTE SO BAD?!! D-DO YOU HATE YOURSELF?!
I'd ask you to have your husbando bring you your meds, but if he did that he'd disappear.

No. 2442753

>>2442724
Racism mostly. A lot of weebs will sperg about drawings not mattering but get pissy over black edits of anime characters. Sometimes I get the hate but it's fucking air compared to lolislop.

No. 2442764

>>2442724
Race aside, there's some normalfag men who touch grass but grew up watching DBZ or naruto and enjoy the occassional action anime. They think degen otaku shit is cringe and embarassing, so the lolifag probably encountered someone like this who told him he's a freak for liking little girls kek

No. 2442766

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>>2442503
That one South Park Randy lesbian autist vibes

No. 2442768

>>2442746
>I'd ask you to have your husbando bring you your meds, but if he did that he'd disappear.
I don't have a husbando, It's not about cuteness, but it makes sense to have a generic self-insert for a diverse female audience. also not wanting to be portrayed as an ugly loser is perfectly fine, no one but male feminists and libfems argue for this

No. 2442771

>>2442766
Wait, I thought it was straight? Lmao.

No. 2442779

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No. 2442781

>>2442766
>>2442779
i dont think this girl knows what lesbian means

No. 2442783

>>2442724
no one but weird pedophiles would have an issue with these traits
>>2442764
my brother and his friends are basically, very normie guys who like sports and watch whatever's on tv

No. 2442785

>>2442724
Troons and lolifags, provided they aren't black themselves, generally resent black weebs. Their fragile mental states can't stand up to the pure, ceaseless roasting black twitter is capable of dishing out when crossed. Black people are where they pilfer 95% of their slang from so they don't want to get on their bad side. That, and plain 'ol racism.

No. 2442797

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>>2442737
Yeah that hypocrisy pisses me off, but this isn't unique to black anime watchers.
>>2442785
Sounds about right. Hoodweeb is the new racist buzzword rightoid lolifaggots who call everyone a tourist despite only watching seasonals and haremslop like to use now.

No. 2442806

>>2442781
It's best to not make sense of the yume mindset. Let her be.

No. 2442807

>>2442797
Holy kek. Aura predates aave by several centuries. Can these weebs chill?

No. 2442815

>>2442806
It's a twitter thing. It's the same as fujo lesbians going by he/him or calling male anime characters she/her

No. 2442822

>>2442815
Tbh, this sounds retarded. Who calls a wholeass man a woman and a lesbian at that? Lesbians had it hard enough with troons infiltrating their ranks. Now add in "he/him lesbians" retroactively changing history while treating butch blues like the bible and nothing is sacred at this point.

No. 2442845

>>2442797
Mods will ban me for racebait but moid hoodweebs are better than the average white moid weebs. Moid hoodweebs and moid white weebs both have the possibility to be super degenerate but other than Thad, I've rarely ever seen hoodweeb right wing lolicons who use anime as a baisis of how society should be, they're too busy arguing over which DBZ character can beat who. Granted, this is bias because my father is a hoodweeb and I grew up around hoodweebs

No. 2442853

>>2442845
It's not really racebait because it's a cultural thing. I think you can say in general that people who are only into anime on a surface level and enjoy huge battles and men beating the shit out of each other are more normie than people who enjoy the loliharemschoolgirl slop that most seasonal anime has become. My brother also is only into terribad shonenshit like Bleach and Naruto but I consider that a good thing because he isn't watching cringe shit where 10 year old girls get pantyshots

No. 2442855

>>2442845
This is largely true from my experience in fandom too, to be fair.

No. 2442860

>>2442845
I find them more annoying because they're louder now and they sperg out about people finding 16 year old anime characters hot. I don't mind people that are only into action shounen but many of them have disdain for any series that doesn't fall under that tbh

No. 2442864

>>2442853
>My brother also is only into terribad shonenshit like Bleach and Naruto but I consider that a good thing because he isn't watching cringe shit where 10 year old girls get pantyshots
I'll say this for the shonentards, I think most of them dislike the isekai haremslop because it's too boring for them. "Protagonist wins every fight because he's Special" is probably retarded as fuck to anyone afflicted with powerscaling autism, they like the source material to at least pretend there's a reason besides plot convenience kek.

No. 2442877

>>2442864
Powerscaling autists are the only male weebs worth dating simply because they look down on haremslop coomers and are too busy and excited to sperg about Goku to practice misogyny.

No. 2442883

>>2442503
I wonder if these people are into these unconventional husbandos because obsessing over the ugly protagonist of American Dad doesn't have much competition unlike some anime bishie of the month or if it's some form of irony poisoning. I used to know a yume who latched onto characters from extreme niches and it always came across as them simply not wanting to share their crush.

No. 2442884

>>2442479
I wish this was the norm for male characters during the summer

No. 2442885

>>2442877
I mean, they do have their retarded "muh best/worst girl" debates kek. It's still preferable to haremfags flipping out over their self-insert marrying the least virginal waifu I suppose.

No. 2442886

>>2442883
That explains one I knew, she was into a really ugly guy from blackstar theater starless and constnatly complained about the devs shafting him kek

No. 2442890

>>2442860
I understand that most anime characters are only symbolically 16/17 because the setting needs to be a high school one, but it still feels nasty when someone lusts over those characters.

No. 2442893

>>2442724
Its actually funny how offended loliturds get when they meet other men who casually watch anime and feel disgust at the obsession with lolis. They really delude themselves into thinking they're the norm.

No. 2442894

I don't want to derail this thread too much but do women generally not like battle/action shows and moves?

No. 2442898

>>2442893
It's a thing in those gacha coomer communities too. If the mods ban lolicon on the discord server (against terms of service) or there are more big titty "hags" they think they are the most persecuted class of people lol

No. 2442901

>>2442890
>I understand that most anime characters are only symbolically 16/17 because the setting needs to be a high school one
Weebs get so oddly defensive when you point out how dumb this is kek.
>MUH MAIN SALES DEMOGRAPHIC!
Most Western superheroes (the closest equivalent to shonen) are grown adults with pension plans and jobs. Teenagers won't have heart attacks if the main character can't sit in the special window seat. I get the whole relatability/escapism angle, but the fact every series is doing it is just pure laziness/playing it safe.

No. 2442906

>>2442894
Gundam 0079? Saved by fujoshi
Rurouni Kenshin? Mostly popular among women
Hunter x Hunter? Massive amount of killua fangirls
Jojo? Another series insanely popular with fujos

No. 2442908

>>2442894
No, a lot of women do they're just not into autistic powerscaling or "aura"posting like moids

No. 2442912

>>2442724
Lolicons complain about doxxing but all they have to do to avoid that is not posting about their fetish publicly. But just like troons they have to shove it down everyone's throat

No. 2442931

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>>2442906
>Rurouni Kenshin? Mostly popular among women
Rurouni kenshin had such hot guys and it makes me so fucking mad the creator ended up being a disgusting pedophile of a scrote. Completely tarnished the series for me
>>2442912
I'm assuming you're talking about chibi reviews, in that case this retarded scrote had his face plastered everywhere and i honestly could care less because despite these seething lolitards, the meta for a long while was that chibi reviews is a horseshit casual youtuber now all of these people suck his cock. It's why these same type of grifters use haruhi suzumiya and not knowing it as a gotcha; up until very recently it had the reputation of "was pretty huge at the time but overall aged poorly", all these people are disingenuous about their interest in anime.

No. 2442936

>>2442912
They're so similar to troons its no wonder tranime is a thing and most lolifags end up trooning out. Just look at onimai which blew up a while ago.

No. 2442938

>>2442724
It is a multifaceted issue but I'll post some that I believe are the truth.
>A lot of white moid weebs have experiences where they were bullied for being nerds by black teenagers who would usually roast the shit out of them and seeing black anything takes them back to that time so seeing black people who are also into their interest that their were bullied over makes them angry because they feel like it's a hypocritical betrayal.
>A lot of white moid weebs are autistic and therefore have wrapped their entire existence around anime and its media and watch a lot of the slop-tier anime. a lot of black moid weebs tend to be normie adjacent and only watch anime at a surface level. This difference alone would piss off a white moid weeb because how dare someone watch anime on a surface level but a lot of black moids weebs still have normie sensibilities like jerking it to anime children is cringe and degenerate so when they inevitably roast and insult white moid weebs over this it makes the average white moid weebs see red and wish to reinstate Japanese flavored Jim Crow Laws.
>a lot of black moids weebs are normies therefore can get girlfriends
>a lot of white moid weebs are racist
I'm just glad that when female weebs don't do this anymore.
>>2442737
It is hypocritical but I think it's cause a lot of them don't look into the mangaka's background like the creator of Rurouni Kenshin or it's a situation where they think a character like Momo Yaoyorozu is hot and mature but think if you like a character like Rise Matsumoto you're a pedophile because of the differing art style.

No. 2442940

>>2442845
Yes and no, there's a spectrum between these two categories. Overall you're right but I've seen plenty of "hoodweebs" saying or liking insane shit just like the more degenerate otaku. Surprisingly I've seen it happen more often irl than online for the worst cases but usually it's things like excusing typical fanservice or pervert humor from their favorite shonen series and Berserk as long as it's not too in your face like with fanservice romcom for guys, or paradoxally they'll show you their favorite romcom shonen manga, won't care about the fanservice in it and talk about the relationships between the characters and especially the love triangles in terms of powerscaling like they're sports commentators. The more degenerate hardcore otaku can be really autistic as fuck, but when they're merely passionate they can be good at hiding their degeneracy if you talk to them irl unless you're also an otaku and know which red flags to look for.

No. 2442941

>>2442938
anon, dragon ball had lolis in bikini armour and all shonen shows tend to have at least one loli

No. 2442942

>>2442906
>>2442908
But like then why do some women feel weird with fictional violence? And even if these women like these series, it's for the characters and story, not so much high octane action scenes. Some go a far as skipping a whole series if violence happens. Not saying all women watch media for the feels or anything, but I feel alone in just watching something not for ships or feels but because I thought it was fun. A shame most conservations are always waifus, husbandos, best girl/boys, slapfights over ships, and other retarded shit. I just want to talk about shit that's hype actually.

No. 2442943

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No. 2442948

>>2442941
I'm not denying that, I'm just saying that from my observations a lot of them either don't care or don't see it as sexual even when it clearly is meant to be.

No. 2442951

>>2442942
???
Anon you sound very out of touch. Death games were massive among tween girls, like danganronpa or hunger games. Game of Thrones had a massive female fanbase too. Women like violent and horror media too.

No. 2442960

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>>2442509
They might just be poly

No. 2442974

>>2442960
why do terminally online Twitter users always have the exact same obnoxious username bio and pfp?

No. 2442979

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>>2442781
>>2442822
Wait nonnies, I found one for she/he Cartman

No. 2443694

>>2440634
watched his animations and they're really fun. once again wishing there could be a high production value gachashit game for fujos



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