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This thread is dedicated to all and any fandom discourse. Global rules apply: don't infight, report and ignore bait, etc.
Current topics include, but are not limited to:
> Proshipping vs Antishipping> Ao3 Censorship and TOS> Slapfights between slash, femslash, and het shippers> Carrds, DNIs and Call-out Threads> Whitewashed/blackwashed/colorist fanart drama> ‘[Insert Sexuality/Gender]-Coded’ Characters> Debates over death of the author> Stalking/harassment experienced by actors/creatorsRelated threads:
Fujo vs. anti-fujo discourse:
>>1978406Fujocoomer cringe:
>>1959358Previous:
>>2379390 No. 2409982
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this is so corny
No. 2410003
>>2409982Difference is the lolicon bitches are often
victims of online grooming and are trying to pander to males in the first place
No. 2410045
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>all this because some women in the qrts said Belladonna of Sadness isn’t feminist
Fans need to chill. The women disagreeing with her in QRTs had max 30 likes and whiteknights arguing with them, while someone agreeing with her got 300+ likes.
I don’t think women are wrong to consider it pornographic. And if women resonated with it, fine. But anime feminists need to take a hard look at themselves when it’s both female fans and a bunch of male fans arguing with women over the feminist integrity of a film in an erotic trilogy made by men. Or maybe they don’t realize because all the male fans are “trans lesbians” kek
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>>2410045The tim fans in question by the way, not hard to spot at all kek
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>>2410045???why are my fellow lolcow nonas trying to get me to hate belladonna of sadness just because a bunch of retarded men with misogyny fetishes choose to be obsessed with it…?? god, this is just like when you guys dragged the absolute shit out of toradora, like it
wasn’t one of the better female written animes/light novel series about romantic relationships and how people make assumptions about your overall character over physical traits you can’t control
No. 2410255
>>2410239I think that trying to discuss any sort of entertainment, especially anime, as "well written" or "feminist" is a recipe for disaster.
Not to say that there isn't, but its dying on a hill for no reason.
If something is considered bad it will be bad no matter what the content actually is about.
No. 2410293
>>2410249tbh i have never actually thought on whether or not the media i consume could be considered feminist in the slightest, anon, so i have no real opinion, but i do believe that if belladonna of sadness was created by americans or europeans it totally would’ve been considered a “feminist classic” akin to that retarded ass i spit on your grave movie or carrie
>Also that’s not the point of the postirrelevant! i have many opinions to share
>>2410255>I think that trying to discuss any sort of entertainment, especially anime, as "well written" or "feminist" is a recipe for disastertrue, this is ultimately retarded in the end
>If something is considered bad it will be bad no matter what the content actually is aboutthis is only for the people who’re obsessed with going along with the bandwagon, nona, male internet addicts have started calling them npcs, like they actually have original thoughts themselves kek
>>2410258fuck you, the anime is s-tier, you can tell that a woman wrote it because the characters have emotional intelligence when a majority of anime/manga comes off as being written by a group of autist males and
are, kys
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>>2410293>fuck you, the anime is s-tierNTA but get on my level pleb.
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>Not bisexual incel
Rude.
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>>2410311I really feel this. Whenever I see a "female" artist of creator displaying really atypical interests, I do a search of their profiles with terms like "trans" to see if they're a troon or not.
The death of "weird girls" online really does feel like a shame. I remembered how much I admired Katie Tiedritch when I was a kid on DA, a woman who presented herself as nerdy, frumpy and boyish in a funny way.
>>2410322I'm pretty sure she means people online not disclosing they're trans, everyone can tell irl lol.
No. 2410338
>>2410314i think i'm the one odd out in this site because i'm mostly into westernslop instead of weebslop lol. at least i'm not into the gendie magnets like su, toh and undertale.
>>2410316>>2410322it's a bit harder over text and with the anonymity social media offers. there are many younger tims that trooned out because of autism and interner usage since a young age rather than porn (or so i'd like to believe), so unless they reveal it i could go months without knowing. others are just so obvious that one can only imagine how well they "pass" irl.
>>2410317i know but it's so defeating to know a girl doesn't want to identify as one for whatever reason. what happened to those old school slogans of girl power and girls can do anything etc etc? i'm proud of my womanhood and outspoken about feminism (still crypto kek) so i don't want to associate with that kind of girl.
No. 2410340
>>2410249>>2410293you're both right.
i'm so tired of retards who think all the media they like has to perfectly reflect their views. 2014 tumblr tier discourse.
No. 2410917
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https://x.com/Tango_dream/status/1891741139738210370This fandom is so fucked man. The things the moids in it do is jarring.
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>>2410917You should provide a translation in the screencap next time
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>>2410935My apologies. The one provided by the site seemed really weird. Thanks for covering my ass though.
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>>2410936horrifying, those are serial killer eyes. gives me the same vibes I get from the carpet sample fursuit
No. 2410989
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nonnas, what is going on in pic rel?
No. 2411050
>>2411047I've mostly seen comship used for ships that are
toxic but not outright
abusive/"proship" or the person just doesn't want to admit they're a proshipper so they apply that category to their OTP
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>>2410989Jesus Christ this really is star wars ass shipping now
No. 2411191
>>2411184Well now you have to choose if you’re a dark invader or Luke solo
The secret third class is the mpreg slut obi wan.
No. 2411664
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Seeing this a lot lately in the LADS community too.
No. 2411685
>>2411664Ngl this is shameful but when I found out they were going to add an interactive map, my thought was "great, people are going to say women need it because they're too stupid to find everything themselves." "Using this makes me weak."
Then I saw men that play going "thats neat, this is what I needed" confidently and I got mad at myself.
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holy fuck these tiktok alphas hate fun
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>>2412306there is so much of them, pinterest comments are so terrible. Those are the same people who complain about why is a gooner character is made for gooners like Super Sonico
No. 2412398
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Why the fuck are fakebians and handmaidens shilling this garbage? It's just a back skirt attached to some 3D blowup doll in lingerie.
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>>2412267Only if you engage with shitty media
No. 2412882
>>2412877Gacha is more popular than VNs so it's better known, this isn't rocket science.
>nucani consistently produces negative fucks from anyone except maybe three and a half /a/ losers?Also far more niche than LADS.
No. 2412906
>>2412877It's only because BL is more niche and basically invisible to the public eye. You're overestimating the kind of man who would get mad at LADS if you think that they even know the difference between otome and BL. There were anti-LADS posts with thousands of likes calling it a game for fujoshi.
It's also common for uninformed outsiders to think BL is for gay men, I see negative comments from men on m/m fanworks lamenting that a series they like has been been taken over by gays. It probably doesn't register that something like nucani is for women even if they're aware of it. Doesn't help that BL content is often sold as 'queer media' in the west.
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>>2412903This. You would have expected to the mafia leader to be a kind of Christian Grey but he's sweet and soft to MC and listen to her ramblings about crows and kittens, something that a moid would tell her to stfu.
No. 2412925
>>2412906You can't be serious. Any moid will know about yaoi just by being a shounenshit fan, or even a fan of anything that has men in it. Not specifically yaoi gachas, but yaoi as a thing, along with all its tropes.
Even before LADS female wish fulfillment always
triggered more penile outrage with complaints of muh male objectification.
No. 2412939
>>2412877Most bl go under the radar and while LaDS got noticably high quality 3d animation, NuCarni is just a yaoi skin on top of an average ero gacha game. Nobody really pays attention to that level of gacha, even then it took a good while for men to notice LaDS, its actually pretty ridiculous that it wasn't until the period tracker when an Olympic medalist became known as a player.
Hell, pretty sure most
fujo here don't know what trending shows get fujobait or read much bl out there other than the classics, stuff that gets shilled everywhere, and old stuff.
No. 2412967
>>2412910Fujoshit is consumed from the cuckchair while in LADS the moid
is your boyfriend, thus directly competing with the seething 3DPD. BL "replaces" no one. That's why yaoi isn't threatening to moids, never was, and never will be.
(fujosperging outside of containment) No. 2412975
>>2412964No shit. Still a million times closer than the mellow and vanilla as fuck tropes of LADS, and yet LADS is the one that chaps their asses.
Isn't one of the big pros of BL being able to enjoy vile degrading shit without having to watch it being done to a woman?
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>>2412967Moids get so upset over yaoi that they compare it to looney tunes
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>>2412975>Isn't one of the big pros of BL being able to enjoy vile degrading shit without having to watch it being done to a woman?Yes. A large driving force in the popularity of BL is that it’s an escape for women who are under strict gender roles and expectations. Interestingly, in western fandoms if you ask what the appeal is women typically talk about it being a way for them to explore their “gender identity”.
No. 2413018
>>2413014Lewd doesn't mean pornography, anon. The content in LADS is undeniably classifying as "lewd" because it goes beyond suggestive. There's no shame in admitting it.
>>2413017No one in the real world is sperging about LADS ruining women either, what's your point?
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What the hell is this pathetic need for competition?
It's not like some fujos don't also have husbandos or don't also ship, or as if there's no husbandofags that read bl and are fujo on the side.
Internet incels out there are bitching over LaDS, yes. They're also trying to boycott Kingdom Come Deliverence 2 over the game having a bl route.
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>>2413043
No. 2413171
>>2413162Gugungu gal nmi
(I still don’t know that word exists)
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>>2410989I think we need to force children to play outside more often
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vergilfag is the only true yumejo on lcf and every other husbandofag is irony poisoned
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Not sure if this is too loose to be deemed fandom discourse but the “yume ” (everyone is too wuss to say selfship) community should be dismantled lmao.
https://x.com/seaweedddd_/status/1892812166337876065?s=46 No. 2413545
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>>2413537Knew the person op is talking about to be a weirdo as she is a personal cow of mine but didn’t know how far that extended.Surprised she wasn’t called out earlier for other shit.
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No. 2413716
>>2413537>everyone is too wuss to say selfshipot but it feels like everyone is too wuss to say waifu/husbando more than anything kek I've seen these types call the words waifu/husbando racist cause they mock japanese accents or some shit
I hate seeing waifuism becoming mainstream like this among zoomies who see it as nothing more than a trend to be quirky as a waifufag myself
No. 2413848
>>2413787NTR can be an interesting topic to explore in some cases when it's not overtly male targeted, but men are incapable of reading fiction without a direct self-insert/wish-fulfillment factor.
In the same sense that they're incapable of shipping genuinely because there's no true appreciation for the characters involved.
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>>2412998Looked up sauce and I'm already disappointed kek
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>>2413881>>2413885Don’t play dumb. It’s not about your husbandos, it’s about the fact that every otome girl still looks like a pretty little dress up doll because yumes are brainwashed by the patriarchy to think they have to look beautiful and pristine at all times in order to be deemed approachable by a decent looking guy. No thank you. Let me enjoy my hot yaoi slop in bra and pyjama pants.
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No. 2414027
>>2413885On this site? People post about how cartoons are objectifying here every other minute.
Have you seen the Genshin Impact thread? The ugly character d3sign thread? So much of it is "This coombait cartoon game is objectifying women, I feel uncomfortable that a cartoon looks like this"
No. 2414034
>>2414026Not necessarily, nowadays men read shoujo and rant about how the female lead having more than one love interest is cucking the guy, and call female love interests that accept that they're not going to win "cuck queens".
The manga Rent A Girlfriend became a joke when the mc fantasized about getting cucked by a guy wearing a beret and getting a boner in a public pool.
No. 2414067
>>2414027> So much of it is "This coombait cartoon game is objectifying women, I feel uncomfortable that a cartoon looks like this"I literally cannot see what’s wrong about that statement unless you’re a porn addicted scrote.
>>2414055> Elders> Nostalgic for gendie warsNona… you must be at least 18+ to post here.
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>>2413970Do you want otome protags to look like this or something? I'd rather look at a normal and cute MC if I'm gonna play 50 hours of an otome
No. 2414095
>>2413970why do you think yumes are retarded enough to want to look like little girls without a hint of irony? there are tifs consuming yaoi that go full retard and troon out so its not a matter of le
problematic media vs. another. just use your brain while cooming then you won't become a tranny or an autopedophile kek
No. 2414099
>>2414089Personally the need for things to be cute and pretty is one of the reasons that lets yaoi stand out.
I'll read harem, isekai, yuri, seinen, josei, shounen, even crossdressing, everything because random manga is a curiosity to me.
Most genres stay in a generally cute box, the characters and artstyle are meant to be appealing to the audience first and foremost.
On the spectrum of genre experimentation, yaoi is able to go farther out with artstyles and characters due to being so apart from the viewer. Things don't have to be as nice or as cute. It's one of the reasons why seinen is one of genres to give space for fujoshi artists.
I think there's nothing wrong with having a space for cute, and being able to leave that and read about people that are not you.
No. 2414118
>>2414067Nona, I know you jest, but when I think of a fandom elder I think of a very specific type of person.
>>2414072>I thought I wouldn’t mind older women into fandom stuff, but the ones I’ve met were even more annoyingly libfem and discourse obsessed than most zoomers I know lol.>anon, remember when fandom was GOOD?! i've been guzzling tranny cock and calling teenage girls hitler for wanting to see attractive men fuck since the 2010s!That's because they're a bunch of cowardly asskissers. I've since understood that unless I'm dealing with a true pepperidge farm oldfag, fandom elders are always going to be libfemmed as shit. They're out of touch deadweights with often no idea why they're considered as such. They always think everything is a conservative or
TERF boogeyman.
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>>2414089>men prefer to play as hot peopleNta but lol, lmao even. Most male self-inserts are painfully average and unremarkable looks-wise, while female self-inserts are super qt and can easily outshine every other waifubait character from moidslop.
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>>2414206And each those games have plenty of hot men who have nice designs, no one is taking that away by putting effort into the MCs design as well. If Byakuya looked like an average copy and paste eroge protag she would look out of place in this world and it'd seems like the artist and companies were scrimping by and didn't care. Which, unfortunately is something that happens a lot in women's media
No. 2414225
>>2414206If no one cared they wouldn't design the female characters like that. They're made pretty because the majority of the female consumer base doesn't want their self insert character to look ugly or boring.
Men's self insert characters look plain because men cannot even imagine making an effort on their appearance and style, and they're fine with being mediocre.
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>>2414223I picked him because I liked his route. This better? Also something tells me that none of you people actually play otoge.
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>>2414226Honestly it really doesn't look that different.
No. 2414238
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>>2414226>Olympia soiree looks like a harem game for incelsSchizo behavior. If a moid played any console otoge he'd get BTFO worse than the damage LADS is doing on the male psyche
>>2414235>Mushoku TenseiYou're really posting loli anime and grasping at straws now
No. 2414245
>>2414241You don't see the elf loli gremlin creature in that pic
and you don't know the meaning of grasping at straws. I don't think there's any hope for you.
No. 2414256
>>2414219Kek,
this is what's getting anons itt to clutch their pearls? I can tell from the character designs and art style alone that it's not moidslop.
No. 2414260
>>2414256The whole thread is clutching at pearls and trying to use moralfagging to criticize other women for not liking what they like, then clutching at pearls and trying to moralize why they should be able to be left alone and like what they like.
It's very stupid, isn't it?
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>>2414258But is your gross loli character the average size of a human mother?
No. 2414268
>>2414262This is a weird post, why the picture? Why specifically a mother?
Anyway, googling it and looking at the AI result, she's an inch or two shorter than the average adult Japanese female height.
No. 2414323
>>2414226Yeah unfortunately no matter the demographic females will have more revealing designs than males because this world is SHIT. She also apparently only wears underwear under the skirt. God forbid women don't wear humiliating clothin. But hey at least the men are attractive.
This is a different matter than playing as a MC who the LI's can actually be attracted to. Just because male sexuality is deficient and they don't care if they're attractive to an attractive woman doesn't mean I have to not care if the attractive man finds me/MC attractive.
No. 2414329
>>2414292Performative MCfuckers and people screeching about wanting yuri routes with random female side characters are extremely annoying but to be fair I've played a lot of games that had this happen
>Don't do x, it's dangerous>Okay! does x and doesn't tell anyone and gets into danger Although I think that can just be chalked up to needing action to happen in the story and being a little lazy about the setup.
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>>2414131I think it's just a running thing with male protagonists in general since BLge also usually have pretty 'basic' looking protagonists.
No. 2414361
>>2414348Even if tempest, cupid parasite, psychedelica of the ashen hawk, basically any MC that has a personality you like or can fight.
>>2414352 This guy is boring looking design-wise but that doesn't mean he's not handsome. Meanwhile galge MC's aren't ugly, they're just not attractive
>>2414358 No it's just that there's an attempted rape scene and a guy feels her up and instantly accesses her underwear.
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>>2414361To be fair some galge have attractive protagonists, just more in a 'moe' way.
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>>2414368That's true, I think when people think of 'attractive' though they automatically associate it with 'bishounen' but moe characters by design are also meant to be attractive.
>>2414369It's not super uncommon to see in BL manga.
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>>2414383I feel like it shows up a fair amount in Eva doujins, have you tried there?
No. 2414401
>>2414373whats the source
nonny? looks cute
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>>2414404Yeaaa I guess that's the one catch for a lot of male moeblob characters like that.
It's a bit easier to also just browse through MFC's BL merch until you find a series with an art style that you like.
No. 2414465
>>2414329Yeah, I didn't mean dumb like the lazy writing in your example. More like the MC is a bit naive or ditzy and she gets a lot of shit for being dumb. Or if she has a backbone or banters with an LI, people call her rude or a bitch despite being sweet overall.
Though this isn't something exclusive to otome. It just rubs me the wrong way when people nitpick the hell out of female leads in women's media, not because of bad writing but because she isn't acting like the perfect being.
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There’s a certain type of nona who keeps posting their niche, personal favourite media in this thread under the guise of introducing a non-existent discourse just to see what nonas think of their current hyperfixation before inevitably chimping out when nonas snub their irrelevant show/game. If you want to create a discussion about a personal passion then take it to /m/. This thread is for munching popcorn over actual fandom slapfights occurring elsewhere on the internet.
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>>2414486Hey nonas what do you think of the latest season of Peppa Pig
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>>2414502Call me back in when they get to the Peppa sword arc
No. 2414686
>>2414419Damn you just reminded me that it was deemed "
problematic" to watch AoT in the past kek, the masses moved on from that quickly
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This situation is really funny and makes me wish there was a yume cringe thread but there's this one lesbian who tries to look like vi and claims that caitlyn is her waifu, people are mad at her over smashing a funko pop someone sent her of mel? lol.. apparently she sexually harassed caitlyn cosplayers too. I've never watched arcane but this situation is just bizzare and funny to me
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>>2415025samefag, here's the tweet of the woman ("he/him") claiming this coomer sexually harassed her. I believe her
>>2415036By 2050, 1 out of every 3 americans will have a caitlyn body pillow
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>>2415044yeah exatly, I love how many characters wear bloomers and don't have an pantsu to upskirt And yeah so many uwu qweer women/girls shill for madoka but forget there are official body pillows of the girls.
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>>2415055There's official body pillows (or other lewd merch) for most anime, doesn't mean that Madoka isn't a god tier show.
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>>2415062Not really what I was implying but the idea is funny so I'm gonna run with it.
>>2415065I kinda considered getting one but they were kinda expensive and dakis are big No. 2415086
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>>2415083Anon, they're VERY obviously both meant for fanservice and you gotta be coping hard to not realize that.
No. 2415101
>>2415099It's not even the only pillow of them that they did kek.
I kinda wonder if some Reigen yumes bought this and then taped over the Mob side or something
No. 2415105
File: 1740362279214.jpg (188.79 KB, 850x828, __akemi_homura_and_akemi_homur…)
>>2415058Nta but its nowhere as bad as Meguca?? Show me an official daki of a 14 year old male character from a popular anime where his asscheeks are out.
No. 2415109
File: 1740362338217.png (688.3 KB, 923x838, W2yxKri.png)
>>2415038slight derail but it's sending me that this bitch's moid larp name is KEITH. I know the soft boy tif names like kai and ari and noah are a cliche but "southern boomer dad who loves to rub dirt on his face and call himself an anime girl" tack is also pretty funny
>>2415044>>2415067yeah, if women want to enjoy madoka then that's whatever but I don't see how you can watch the shows and not pick up on the subtle themes about how girls are pure and then become corrupted when they get older and madoka's working mother is a bad thing and how it's obvious the writing is not just "dark and edgy subversion" but "pervert man is getting off on watching these young teens be tortured ala made in abyss." you guys know that the writer gen urobuchi made a more explicitly pedophilic "horror eroge" called Saya no Uta, right? kind of provides more support to the fact that he's a pedophile who gets on child torture
No. 2415111
File: 1740362414925.jpg (47.97 KB, 589x505, 149099-8219b.jpg)
>>2415105Does Kirito count
No. 2415117
>>2415105Look at like, any merch of Ciel kek.
>>2415112I hate this retarded ass argument, mahou shoujo had been doing moidshit since the 70s with cutie honey and the vast majority of mahou shoujo in the 2000s were shit like moetan but because Madoka is popular it gets all the blame.
>>2415114Because he's the uke? Idk I don't watch mob psycho.
No. 2415124
>>2415120Anon that shit is way more moidy than Madoka could ever hope to be.
It's fine if you like it but don't act like it isn't scroteshit.
No. 2415130
File: 1740362995917.jpeg (544.84 KB, 2333x3500, image0.jpeg)
>>2415128There’s literally a scene in this anime of her twin sister rubbing her nipples kek
>>2415123Does AOT guy count
No. 2415140
>>2415136I dropped the show kek
I don’t really see how that takes away from my main point of this franchise being moidy even in the series for girls though.
No. 2415165
>>2415058"girls are more emotional" isn't a god tier theme, the point is it's not surprising a show like this written by a misogynist has suggestive body pillows of girls in a state of undress
>>2415065Aaand here come the shotacons
No. 2415174
>>2415165>"girls are more emotional" isn't a god tier themeEh, the phrasing isn’t great but girls going through puberty (the average age of a magical girl) are when women are at their most emotional (and obviously we can’t have mahou shounen because that’s not how the genre it’s a deconstruction of is set up)
It’s one sort of questionable element in an otherwise fantastic anime so I’m willing to give it a pass on that one.
No. 2415187
>>2415174A charitable read of it could say that the massive hormonal and body changes that girls go through in puberty, combined with an oppressive world hostile to girls & women (if that’s what they were going for with the 2 scrotes on the train that Sayaka nukes + witches being histoircally burned) makes them ideal prey for the incubators.
Ofc then it’s combined with all the gross and completely unnecessarily sexualised shots of 14 year old girls in the show, purely for an adult male audience, which is what gives me a feeling of unease and cognitive dissonance.
No. 2415192
>>2415174It doesn't make sense because teenage boys are also emotional and this fact makes it plainly obvious that the writer was desperately trying to find a way to justify girls only for his edgy deconstruction.
>>2415187The scrotes on a train could have been an opportunity for concrete feminist commentary but in the end it just fueled Sayaka's arc about her weird obsession about being a hero of justice and how she hates the world now or something (and yes it's "the world," she makes no distinction between men and women like a typical libfem)
Every newer installment strays further and further from any pro-woman them and more into fanservicing scrotes
No. 2415197
>>2415193That doesn't help the sexism allegations.
Why is this man so obsessed with "deconstructing" mahou shoujo in the first place. And why "becuz girlz r emotional" for such a "logical" species to make that decision?
This is also on top of the other illogical edgelord bait such as middle schoolers who have never once thouoght about where your soul is located to be like "omg we're zombies" at your "soul" being placed in a gem…
No. 2415201
File: 1740366861245.png (5.49 MB, 1328x1871, princess tutu.png)
>>2415197Because why not? It's not like it was the first time there was a mahou shoujo anime with elements that deconstucted the genre anyway so I don't see the issue with it. The vast majority of mahou shoujo anime is either coomslop or low quality monster of the week series so I really see no issue with wanting to take the base concept and make it into a series for an adult audience.
I don't see you bitching about Evangelion being a deconstruction of mecha kek.
No. 2415228
>>2415222Weebs get so
triggered when you point out that Evangelion wasn't that good
No. 2415233
>>2415201>It's not like it was the first time there was a mahou shoujo anime with elements that deconstucted the genre anywayexactly. Princess tutu was tasteful and not a misogynistic mess.
At least Evangelion didn't spawn 20 coomerbait anime shitting on mecha
>>2415222At least it's not Berserk or Vinland Saga
No. 2415237
File: 1740368761496.jpg (275.03 KB, 1024x768, you kids know about aquarion.j…)
>exactly. Princess tutu was tasteful and not a misogynistic mess.
I mean the endings are ultimately fairly similar in their conclusion
>Madoka sacrifices herself to end the circle of suffering for magical girls, becomes a god and everyone forgets her except Homura
>Ahiru sacrifices herself for the prince so he can ultimately save the world from the raven, becomes a duck again and everyone forgets her except Fakir
I love both of these shows dearly and they're both in my top 5 but I don't see how one is better than the other in that sense.
>At least Evangelion didn't spawn 20 coomerbait anime shitting on mecha
Yes it fucking did retard, you just don't know about them because they were all forgetten about due to being like 15+ years old.(learn2reply)
No. 2415245
File: 1740369105746.png (157.87 KB, 460x259, aEgd6VO_460s.png)
>>2415237Well except for Franxx obviously because that shit isn't that old, definitely furthers the point of Eva having 10000 coom shows that tried to repeat it.
No. 2415249
File: 1740369257489.jpg (90.95 KB, 403x600, 5278425842689.JPG)
>>2415058I don’t comprehend the psychology of shotacon. I understand finding the them cute, but I don’t know how some view it as a sexual preference. Closest explanation I could find is autopedophilia.
No. 2415250
>>2415249They have sexy legs, just look at Alois.
Also the whole loss of innocence thing with an older man x shota.
No. 2415255
File: 1740369662499.webp (33.63 KB, 365x783, 5268621579526.WEBP)
>>2415250Why would a presumably heterosexual female be attracted to a character that is meant to be a pseudo-woman if not for autopedophilia?
No. 2415258
>>2415255I'm bi
Like I said though I think a lot of it is more about the forbidden fruit/loss of innocence motif which makes shota appealing to a lot of fujos as this theme is pretty common in BL itself and it's just an exaggerated form of it.
No. 2415269
File: 1740370235870.jpeg (22.71 KB, 324x375, 468568.jpeg)
>>2415255Did you make a judgement based on one character? Agreeing with AYRT that's it's likely to be an innocence thing, there's stuff like picrel which is a exemplification of a perversion of innocence.
No. 2415276
>>2415263I’m not a gendie. Many BL media depicts the uke as the “stand-in” for females (see omega verse). Additionally, young boys were considered pseudo-women in ancient societies.
>>2415258>>2415269That still does not explain attraction at the visual level.
(fujobait outside of containment) No. 2415278
>>2415276>Additionally, young boys were considered pseudo-women in ancient societies.This is lolcow not greece
>That still does not explain attraction at the visual level.Literally said in my first post that most of them have sexy legs. A lot of the time the dynamic is more important than physical apperance though which is the same for shota characters.
No. 2415292
>>2415286It's already been explained to you like 5 times, a common theme in BL is loss of innocence and an exaggerated form of that would be with an older man and a young boy.
It's basically the BL equivalent of girls into coquette stuff like lolita, it's pretty much a staple of media made for women.
No. 2415296
File: 1740371514423.jpg (154.74 KB, 736x795, 1000005008.jpg)
>>2415290Most shotas are just sized down bishies
No. 2415304
>>2415290they don’t. anime characters barely even resemble real life people in the first place. real women don’t look or act like anime characters.
>>2415299do you think bakugo is some pseudo woman self insert just because women cosplay him. women cosplay literally anything
No. 2415306
>>2415292>romanticized grooming as a staple of media made for womenWhy is that so? Or will explaining why be too blackpilling?
>>2415297They certainly don’t look resemble real boys, yet still maintain a neoteny found in women.
(fujobait outside of containment) No. 2415315
>>2415306I think people are trying to make this too complicated. It's common for kids/teenagers to find older people/characters attractive. Most people don't suddenly become attracted to other people over the age of 18 on their own 18th birthdays. So these age gap pairings are just sublimation.
>>2415312it was probably a bonus
No. 2415326
>>2415323Ok but you were arguing that shotas are actually psuedo women so going by your logic it cannot ALSO be autopedophilia.
>but people are still allowed to find it gross.No one was saying that you're not allowed to?
No. 2415328
>>2415316that would just be actual pedophilia and not autopedo
>>2415308but he’s popular with them. you really missed my point there
No. 2415330
>>2415316I think they just get hung up on their youth fantasies. Like people who retain school uniform fetishes or fetishes for teachers even after they graduated high school. Those early teenage years are when hormones and emotions are at their highest so maybe things can imprint more easily. Then these people get older and their hormones and emotions are more even keel so their fantasies focus on a time period when everything was more exciting.
Do elderly people have sexual fantasies that reflect their actual age or do they also regress to imagining themselves/their self inserts as being more youthful? If it is the latter then I think my theory is probably correct.
No. 2415335
>>2415323No one's saying it's normal but shotas aren't women stand ins. They look like any other bishounen, just smaller. Female shotacons seem to be into the innocence and androgyny of shota characters, the whole moe thing. If shotas were women why would there be content like
>>2415058 are those women wanting to have body pillows of their self inserts?
No. 2415345
>>2415335With the example of Black Butler I can buy that Ciel was used as a stand-in by female readers bc they were attracted to Sebastian and the two formed the story's focal relationship. With Hanako-kun I don't think he works as a stand-in because iirc there's a strong focus on his relationship with a female character so the attraction is more likely to be towards Hanako himself.
Maybe there are female readers who self insert as him because they like Nene? Do lesbian/bi fans ever self insert as male characters to pair with female characters? I'm wondering now.
No. 2415346
File: 1740373511256.jpg (Spoiler Image,241.39 KB, 774x1066, go nagai with kekko kamen cosp…)
>>2415109>he's a pedophile who gets on child tortureI feel most Japanese creators, especially males, are extremely sick in the head. This is why I can enjoy their shows to an extent, but I do not feel offended if some anon points out the coom aspects. Like, there is one cutiehoneyfag who keeps malding when anybody does not like that show, but it is hard for me to feel this strongly about it when the creator is a complete degen.
No. 2415347
>>2415341I heard some theories were shotacon was popularized in BL as “revenge” against lolicon, rather than genuinely-occurring attraction.
>>2415343Then what is their closest real-life inspiration?
No. 2415364
>>2415361At the end of the day it comes down to this for me
>Shota is fine since women don't fuck kids>Loli is not fine since men do fuck kids>Incest is fine because fucking your siblings went out of style a long time ago>Furries are not fine because they regularly fuck animals>>2415363Moids love SELF INSERTING as shotas in /ss/
/ss/ is separate from shota because shota being gay and for women is the default.
No. 2415395
>>2415392Moids do this a lot, they pretend that Sweden has the highest rate when in reality they just have the best set up method
>Other countries don't count marital rape as rape while Sweden does>Other countries don't count forced oral penetration as rape while Sweden does>Other countries just ignore molestation all the time while Sweden includes it in their statsetc etc
No. 2415401
File: 1740376261843.png (58.86 KB, 624x625, dumbasses.png)
I swear to Christ /ot/ newfags have zero ability to identify and ignore bait. Then you act all shocked that your threads go to shit.
No. 2415427
>>2415422NTA but look up Sexual Violence and Gender Inequality in Japan by Machiko Osawa if you want some stats.
>>2415420Yeah but there's amputee fetishists over there whose data you're not collecting.
No. 2415432
File: 1740377298322.webp (30.87 KB, 640x601, 89yjrm05fzv71.webp)
>>2415410This is the closest I can think of, though it's political.
No. 2415434
File: 1740377340994.jpg (192.62 KB, 1396x1336, FTOQad1XoAATmDC.jpg)
>>2415431Here's another one for mental illnesses for political spectrum.
No. 2415451
>>2415441Interestingly ime schizotypal women tend to be more into gore stuff like woundfucking and necrophilia in one instance.
>>2415446Good idea nona.
No. 2415502
File: 1740381259118.jpg (Spoiler Image,28.22 KB, 214x300, 4263262252489.JPG)
>>2415498>I want them to do shitThey will soon don’t worry.
No. 2415601
File: 1740391788509.jpg (60.18 KB, 680x622, 1000008619.jpg)
The lads love interests are 23-28 years old. How are these idiots gonna complain about adults discussing adult relationships gtfo kek
No. 2415789
>>2414682Comparing touhou games to shit like onimai is such a stretch kek. I've played a couple and I don't recall them having fanservice and troon shit in them. While onimai is just totally unwatchable unless you're a coomer. Just because the fanbases for both have shitty males (like every single weeb fanbase for something with cute girls) doesn't put them on the same level in terms of what they are at all.
>>2415383It's because they hate that women can have any preferences or standards just in general. The bc makes you love pretty boys meme is a massive cope for their belief that muh ugly masculinity is always what every single woman prefers naturally, even though anytime media garners a large female following it tends to be because there are pretty boys in it, not roidpigs they love to pretend are what women actually like.
No. 2415804
File: 1740402016370.jpg (72.85 KB, 850x596, __kageyama_ritsu_mob_psycho_10…)
>>2415417>>2415444what website is this?
>>2415442gakuran
No. 2415925
>>2415906They're retarded because men would tear any ugly and fat woman to shreds and they call it woke if a female character doesn't look like a blowup doll. Even when they sexualize "fat" female characters they're usually not even actually fat and just have big boobs and thighs or something.
>>2415907Yeah I've seen a few myself.
No. 2416549
File: 1740422454383.png (258.42 KB, 584x622, image.png)
No. 2416579
>>2416567low conviction rates for rapists
yet you can get jailed for calling a moid retarded, the rate of stalkers and gropers should be evidence enough, japan has a disgusting child rape culture.
No. 2416605
File: 1740423816564.jpg (77.14 KB, 626x463, strongest nippon warrior.jpg)
>>2416589
No. 2416941
File: 1740437134946.png (1.25 MB, 1284x1709, Screenshot.png)
>>2416549A lot of moid weebs are really mad at this woman in the quotes. I thought their pedoshit was totes welcome and seen differently in japan?
No. 2416968
File: 1740437990925.jpeg (78.8 KB, 977x781, IMG_9441.jpeg)
>>2416941Moids so desperately want Japan to be some safe haven for pedophile scum like them where the women cannot say no. It's why they shove the "THERE'S ACKKKSHUALLLLYYY NO RAPE IN JAPAN" statistics up everyone's ass and deny the fact that women are often ostracized from society for opening up about sexual assault or the fact that there needs to be a loud ass noise on moid's cameras because they can't stop taking pics of little girls' underwear. They're so in denial about Japanese women IRL not being their oh so perfect waifus that every Japanese woman who says "hey, there's a rape and pedophilia problem here" gets moids seething that she's ackshually a white western feminazi!!111!
No. 2416979
>>2416968Ngl I don't trust anybody who says they're Japanese but speak in English. There's too many that do it as a weird race play "Japanese women totally like this" sort of thing.
This case is okay though.
No. 2417001
Oh my god kill me I can't tag properly.
>>2416994>>2415112It doesn't help that the show says that girlz r emotional. "Emotional men are now girls" resonates with troons
No. 2417018
File: 1740439584574.jpg (100.19 KB, 686x386, 3168426852689.JPG)
>>2415364>shota being gay and for women is the defaultA gay pedophile made Boku no Piko for other gay pedophiles.
No. 2417052
File: 1740440477757.png (132.84 KB, 960x466, 1000020264.png)
What does this mean
No. 2417223
>>2417018You’re actually braindead if you think boku no pico is the default for shota
Shota is by default a genre by and for women, deal with it.
No. 2417235
>>2417223Why is there so much oneeshota then? Men love self inserting as little boys.
Even then the amount of women into cartoon little boys is concerningly high.
No. 2417241
File: 1740444633113.png (99.41 KB, 594x544, wat.PNG)
>>2416136Speaking of which, kek.
No. 2417261
>>24172541-integrate
2-he has an official body pillow
No. 2417287
File: 1740446154839.jpg (81.21 KB, 735x611, 1000131299.jpg)
>>2417254Idk, nonna, what do you think? I think the manga has beautiful art but let's be real.
No. 2417340
File: 1740447834108.jpg (171.98 KB, 1380x764, Examples.jpg)
I think it's easy to tell shota (female audience) apart from shota (male audience).
Setting aside muscle shota, shota for guys tend to be more feminine while shota for women are more boyish.
No. 2417350
>>2417317>buffwtf no, his appeal is that he's creepy-cute. If he was buff he would be a run of the mill
abusive love interest you see on the dozen on stuff for women.
No. 2417358
>>2417352Haha,
nonny is into fatties
No. 2417359
>>2417348Not the first one.
The second one is popular with both sexes, but I feel like it slightly leans male.
The last two yes.
No. 2417367
File: 1740448706750.webp (127.99 KB, 755x1074, 349B88E4-6071-49A6-983B-63CB00…)
>>2417287I love jshk but the yugi twins are definitely meant to appeal to a certain demographic.
No. 2417393
File: 1740449893457.png (125.15 KB, 256x500, Hacka_3.png)
>>2417389Tbh looking back, I should have used pic related
No. 2417404
>>2417293stfu pedo
>>2417287this is the only one that seems sexual because why else would you make a kid say that.
>>2417367This isn't sexual though
>>2417261 I saw it, it wasn't sexual. The mob psycho one was more sexual.
No. 2417409
File: 1740450932386.jpg (43.12 KB, 893x1500, 51mKrKQuTHL.jpg)
>>2417406Is this sexual? Some things are just a regular object with Character™ on it
No. 2417428
File: 1740451712441.jpg (34.2 KB, 256x299, 106080.jpg)
>>2417423Yes
nonnie men are still not allowed to like little girls. If you like Ciel Phantomhive you like little boys, they have child proportions. Go simp for Tokisada from Olympia Soiree instead if you like "cute guys"
No. 2417437
>>2417432"Underage" isn't shota. Todoroki from MHA isn't a shota, he's 15, still handsome.
>>2417434Yes everybody is supposed to like the same shitty BL from 200X.
No. 2417448
File: 1740452327154.jpeg (42.19 KB, 739x415, 6966ovtu.jpeg)
>>2417437He's not built like a adult either…
No. 2417449
>>2417441Wow because I accept one taboo thing means I have to accept every single other thing under the sun?
All that matters to me is if the PNG registers as mature. It's appearance, not age.
But if you can look me in the eye and truly tell me that Ciel is a man and not a child to you, then… good for you (still weird in my opinion). But the point is, I don't think you do, sounds like massive copium. Also funny how you suddenly brought up real life. The argument has always been if you're attracted to children or not, not if it's legal to be attracted to PNG's.
>>2417448There's sexual dimorphism. He's clearly not a child
No. 2417456
File: 1740452705422.png (4.45 MB, 4047x1249, typesofshota.png)
>>2417340Wanted to give a go at a chart that showcases the different types of shotacons.
No. 2417462
>>2417455Are you in a relationship with everyone you find attractive?
>>2417461So you have to be a roidpig to be an adult? Also no. There are very clearly little boy characters in that anime. Like the kid with hat horns.
No. 2417466
>>2417462Reread what I said. Use a ruler this time.
>>2417456Kek, homunculus100 is the perfect representative.
No. 2417471
File: 1740453036633.gif (3.69 MB, 480x270, why.gif)
>>2417410Kek. I chose that one specifically because it was adapted in the first anime op and spawned countless of molestation fan theories. The series is pretty questionable as a whole, especially early on.
No. 2417499
File: 1740453915387.png (2.99 MB, 1148x2973, Ilya (1).png)
>>2417483Yes because you associate them with immature high schoolers. If everyone were in the same life stage past 16, there would be no problem.
>>2417486Brain doesn't stop maturing until 25, stop being attracted to 24 year olds you pedo they're literal children
>>2417490Ok so once they're 18 its suddenly ok to find them attractive? Meanwhile child proportions are child proportions. Next you'll tell me it's okay for me to lust over this girl because "SHE'S 18"
No. 2417514
>>2417505next she'll start citing age of consent in the 1700s.
>>2417509just get over it. socially and legally acceptable are always going to trump whatever pseudoscience you spew from your mouth.
No. 2417517
>>2417499That brain study was debunked a long time ago but your physical body, especially for men, takes a while to mature fully and I'm guessing you've never met a high school aged boy with a full time job because shocker they act the same. It's like they were small children 5 years ago or something.
>Next you'll tell me it's okay for me to lust over this girl because "SHE'S 18"Is that not what you're doing?
>>2417509You're fine with lusting 15 to 17 years olds as you've previously stated.
No. 2417522
File: 1740454442235.png (1.18 MB, 1116x1504, 4167326783267.png)
Who cares about anons wanting to fuck shounenslop moids when there are lolifags on this website
No. 2417531
>>2417514Gotcha. The 18 year old loli is okay. Don't want to hear another word out of you fags about lolishit then
>>2417517>Is that not what you're doing?Literally the entire thread I"ve been saying appearance over age, and then some retards told me that means we should be in a romantic relationship with every highschooler.
There's mental attraction too, especially for romance. Nobody's going to find a lack of responsibilities attractive in the end. I'm saying, if every social factor was removed, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference with a 21 yo physically. So no matter how old Ciel is, he's still a child.
No. 2417533
>>2417456samefag but
>Straight Woman Shotafag: The characters tend to lean more into being teenagers in highscool, have fully developed bodies, and lean muscle. More of a focus on looking like mature bishounens so the characters could easily pass for being young adults rather than children. Mostly used in yaoi or yume fantasy. Rarely will it ever be an actual child character. Characrers tend to look cute and boyish. Least likely to be an actual pedophile or have tendencies.>Batshit Bi-Het TIF Shotafag: More of a focus on being a grotesque, fetishistic as possible because of either a appetite for attention, porn induced brainrot, or trauma (latter is least likely the cause). Smut isn't drawn to titilate but to disturb. The character can lean towards being a teen, but more likely than not will be younger or actively stylized to look younger and cuter. Mostly used in age gap yaoi related or angst related stuff. Somehow less unnerving the the next two. Less likely to have pedophilic tendencies rather than being a full blown pedo.>Gay Male Shotafag: Characters are likely to lean towards being middle schoolers or young teenagers. Despite looking like children they will either be roided out or obese fatasses. Art style tends to focus on making the characters look rough, gross and boyish, rather than cutesy and innocent because of homo tendencies. Extremely unnerving despite its surface level innocence of depicting masculine boyish memories because of its realism from the artist drawing from his own experiences as a child. You will rarely see any "moe fetishes" like crossdressing. Most likely to be an actual pedophile.>"Straight" Male Shotafag: Either drawn for straight shota self-insert, by a homo in denail, by a proud shotafag homo who prefers cutesy looking characters, by an agp tranny who gets off to being turned into a little girl, or because he got tired of jerking off to lolishit and need a penis to spice stuff up. The younger the better. Characters are drawn as feminine as physically possible to the point that they look like little girls. Heavy focus on being as moe and cutesy as possible with lots of crossdressing. Likely to be an actual pedophile.I think it's important to have nuance when it comes to this kind of art. They're all undoubtably bad and morally dubious, but there's a clear difference from someone who wants Nagito Komeada and some guy who wants to fuck Nobita from Doraemon.
No. 2417544
File: 1740454744005.jpg (23.74 KB, 396x360, 1322794874002.jpg)
No. 2417545
>>2417534Plenty of 20+ year olds look underage…? What?
>>2417539for the last time you retards. Highschool=/= shota
god damn it flood detector
No. 2417550
File: 1740454853632.jpg (83.3 KB, 735x738, 2e4e03fa1a7f3b40a3ab4c3d3e9670…)
>weebshit thread
mfw as the sole non weeb reader of this thread
No. 2417554
File: 1740454933118.jpg (65.79 KB, 750x422, 24-yoshinobu-gakuganji-jujutsu…)
>>2417545>Plenty of 20+ year olds look underage…? What?Another filthy lie from anon
No. 2417564
>>2417557Really?
Children are andrgynous. If you put Hanako in a dress he'd look like a girl. If you put Todoroki in a dress, he would look weird (if this were real life, not if you're some troon sympathizing mangaka who draws trannies the same as girls)
No. 2417565
File: 1740455098893.png (1.16 MB, 1920x1080, image-asset-700809571.png)
>>2417558There's bridge and poker on fridays and saturdays
No. 2417568
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>>2417564>f you put Hanako in a dress he'd look like a girl. If you put Todoroki in a dress, he would look weirdwhat the fuck does this have to do with everything said before
No. 2417592
>>2417580Again… depends if we're talking about the same thing. Pretty sure a 7 year old would be fairly androgynous, even a 10 year old. Also, the anime logic doesn't help either. They're even
more blob-like. Todoroki despite this, is unambiguously defined.
No. 2417610
>>2417600I think it's fine to find the Witch scenes pretty cool.
The ost too.
No. 2417617
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>>2417570I know he's been posted a million times itt already but hanako is such a qt. I love his slightly devilish personality. Also been a kagamine len fan since ancient history
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>>2417621>babyfacedI think it would irl translate to lemurs but they would be smoother than this one
No. 2417631
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>>2417605You stop being into weeb shit once you hit the big 2-0. That’s why everything is set in high school, it’s the only age range that matters. It’s also why this discussion doesn’t make sense since everyone is under 20?
No. 2417633
>>2417625It's drunk anon vs oldfag anon
>>2417631So who watches the anime about 25+ year olds?
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>>2417628Meanwhile in the west
>I vaguely resemble a man No. 2417657
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>>2417649Thats not how proportions work. Anime proportions dont translate to irl. Todoroki has the proportions of an irl 10yo child.
No. 2417669
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>>2417657also, this is an adult woman. There's a lot of mangaka that like to give their characters uncanny stocky legs which makes them look… short, but not like children
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>>2417674In the future Archie always marries one of them, they don't continue living as degenerate polypigs into their 20s and 30s
No. 2417701
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>>2417690Uhhh that's how manga works though. Next you're going to tell me Lelouch is 25+ for having long, lanky legs. Shinobu here is viewed at an angle, and female. She's not drawn consistently in the first place. Also, todoroki is at an angle too.
Also, hanako is still unambigiously a child
Flood detector I'm sorry forgive me
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>>2417691Dress up darling girl seemed pretty leggy
No. 2417710
>>2417701Lelouch has a 8 head proportion though. I dont think you understand how proportions works…they are relative to the head.
>Also, hanako is still unambigiously a childhe looks the same as shinobu yet you dont see shinobu as a child. And again, you are conflicting reality with fiction when its convenient to you but go back to ''b-but thats just manga'' to excuse yourself when it doesnt suit your anime=reality theory.
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>>2417241The bar is in hell, jfc
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The amount of the people agreeing with this really explains a lot
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>>2417657Would this mean that Charlie Brown is a fetus
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>>2417777
I'm analyzing this like it's high literature
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I feel good about myself since I don’t like shotas so I don’t have to justify my fetishes to strangers on the internet.
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>>2417777
I looked and looked at him, and I knew, as clearly as I know that I will die, that I loved him more than anything I had ever seen or imagined on earth. He was only the dead-leaf echo of the youth from long ago - but I loved him, this shota. He could fade and wither - I didn't care. I would still go mad with tenderness at the mere sight of his face.
No. 2417827
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>>2417777>>2417812Hanako, light of my life, fire of my loins. My sin, my soul. Ha-nah-ko: the tip of the tongue taking a trip of three steps down the palate to tap, at three, on the teeth. Ha. Nah. Ko.
He was Amane, plain Amane, in the morning, standing four feet ten in one sock. He was Yugi-san in slacks. He was Amane-kun at school. He was Yugi Amane on the dotted line. But in my arms he was always Hanako.
No. 2417831
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>>2417825I am gomen. There were surprisingly few official pics of Hanako as a cat boy which felt like an essential element to the post. If it makes you feel better Kou also got cropped.
No. 2417835
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>>2417802Bweh I am not a shotafag, but I feel like anons ITT and the average weeb in general tend to overreact to shota characters, even if they're wrapped in 10 layers of burka, while loli characters get a free pass. Which is wild to me because loli is way more common in normalfag weebshit. Like, hoyoslop has playable loli characters but no playable shotas. It's just weird how shota gets so much more hate when it's not even half as prevalent as loli stuff.
No. 2417839
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>>2417835>It's just weird how shota gets so much more hate when it's not even half as prevalent as loli stuff.It’s not that weird when you think about how characters like Ciel and Hanako are suppose to appeal to women. Anything like that is by nature going to be policed and critiqued more than anything aimed at men.
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>>2417839The shota that appeals to women feels like an endangered species more every day.
I'm mostly just mad this manga is dead, it was so wholesome No. 2417850
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>>2417545Shota is a body type not an age, Ouma is a shota but Komaeda is not.
No. 2417859
>>2417857Loli's straight by default and has a puss
Shota's gay by default and has a dick
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>>2417853Ntayrt but I feel like a lot of his charm is in his personality rather than his character design. Aida has a tendency to draw the Yugi twins like gremlins which is fitting for them kek
No. 2417868
>>2417866That's my point, boku no pico is a rare exception that's made for moids.
As a series it's closer to trap stuff over regular shota anyway with Pico and Coco getting mistaken for girls all the time anyway.
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>>2417872>needs shortsYou’re in luck, his official idol outfit design has shorts.
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>>2417870Same. My boy is the purest of all
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This boy also is so cute.
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>>2417894I already remembered, that character is from the otome game "Brothers Conflict".
No. 2417916
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>>2417846As a fan of Gegege no Kitaro, the 2007 version(picrel) will always and forever have my heart. It feels like he was designed with 'moe' first and foremost in mind. He feels very sweet and sincere in his quest to take care of human-youkai relations.
The 2018 version didn't appeal to me as much. I still like the show, and it's fun that they're trying to play up Mizuki's OG mood, but Kitaro looks a bit too much like a baby bobblehead. I get that they're trying to play up the 'strange' aspect, but it feels like they sacrificed some moe to get there.
No. 2417974
>>2417710So if I give a torso ultra shortened uncanny legs, it has child proportions? You do know there's more that goes into play then heads right?
Also did I ever say anime=reality? all I said was, if it registers as a child to you and you are attracted to it, you're attracted to children. And I've been pointing out that there's no way you people see Hanako as a "short man" lmao.
No. 2417977
>>2417969Shounen is the most popular genre and is shared worldwide the most.
Naroukei novels tend to have older main characters but they also tend to be low quality and get low quality adaptions so nobody really gives a shit.
No. 2417988
>>2417969Looking it up for this season, it's honestly more balanced than you'd expect. The only issue is that most of the shows featuring adults aren't going to be popular.
People like the flashiest of Shounen Jump. They don't want to see
Headhunted in Another World guy strike business deals with orcs.
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>>2417995>they have more neotenous featuresThey're short yes but they arent baby faced? this is such a weird thing to point out.
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thanks, it was a good read
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>>2417995really? most of them are just plain ugly
(racebait) No. 2418032
>>2418028That design choice just makes her small loli shoulders stand out more
>>2417835Huh? People hate on lolishit all the time. Why do we have to discuss lolishit ad nauseum? Because discussing shotashit hurts people's feelings?
No. 2418069
>>2418056>100 reports in the last 12 hours>We are still working on it!So then everyone is right when they say that the site is sometimes unmoderated for up to 12 hours a day? This could have been nipped in the bud 12 hours ago had there been farmhands active and doing the job they signed up to do. If you don't have enough moderators, THEN OPEN APPLICATIONS.
Inb4 "take it to /meta/," no, because nobody responds in /meta/. That redtext is just your way of saying "shut up."
No. 2418076
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Why is everything a trans allegory nowadays?
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Nonas how do you handle being one of the only people in a fandom who understands your favorite character properly? Everything is so plagued with morality and politics that even people who seem normal and chill have to publicly take certain stances so they dont get harassed. We’re all just here to have fun, why does it need to be so serious? Fandoms feel really lonely nowadays
No. 2418110
>>2418107Use sites like freecodecamp and referencing off other people's sites to practice html/css. Your code doesnt even need to be optimized, it can be as mangled as shit and still be functionable.
When starting out try mimicking simpler layouts like
https://koilwood.neocities.org/ and
https://seafare.neocities.org/.
Modern HTML/CSS is easier than ever to get into and all it takes is practice and a hands-on approach to learn.
Apologies if this is getting OT, feel free to move it to the smallweb thread if you have any more questions. No. 2418304
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>>2418089>>2418133Anyone with an adapted work, where the show or movie changes the characters so much people think your interpretation is fanon
No. 2418307
>>2418142> having merlin give her a dick so mordred could be bornThat's so retarded
>could have just had Mordred as the nephew/niece not Arthur's child like in the older works>could have just made Morgan Le Fay a man/crossdresserThe Fate series is fucking a waste of potential, should have stuck to being porn bullshit
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>>2417873Also him too. Ghost shotas are cute
(continuing shota derail after farmhand warning) No. 2418483
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>>2418076I recently started seeing wokies claiming that rae is also trans because she was male in the original comic but was turned female in the show adaptation
No. 2418517
>>2418508Please
nonny, for every Coraline and Prince of Egypt you have 50 Shrek movies. Good movies for children in the west, especially post pixar, are extremely rare.
No. 2418593
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>>2418569>Somenonnie once told me the world is gonna bait meI ain't the sharpest tool in the shed
i was looking kind of dumb with the reply and my post
Instead i got banned by the farmhand Hey now, you're an retard.Get your bait on, go reply
Hey now, you're a sperg star
Get the show on, get banned
And all that redtexts is gold
Only shootin' cows break the milk
No. 2418612
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Why are Gakupo fans surprised that Gackt was shilling Trump kek.
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>>2418461Reminds me of this channel where her entire thing is just vids like this.
It's like the female autism version of dogseatingdogs6 screaming at family guy.
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>>2418517If only you'd something like Sharktale instead kek. There are a lot of great animated movies for children, and even more so in Europe. I do agree that's there a lot of shit, especially those weird flea market/half price video store rental movies like picrel but these types are prevalent in every other genre in the west.
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>>2418577>cringeYou zoomies should be arrested for crimes against humanity
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>>2418713I'm probably older than you and I didn't really get it either. Smash Mouth, seriously? He looks like a failed flubber anthology project
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>>2418728Real question is was it zoomers or milennials buying the CRTs
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>>2418749I know, and this sketch as well as Panda insisting that Kirara is a guy without anyone trying to contradict him makes me believe Gege was just trying to fuck around and have an excuse to draw two guys groping each other's ass in the shonen jump and get away with it, the same way he made Yuji play pachinko canon despite originally not being allowed to. Uraume's case is weirder since he's a man who specifically asked to possess a woman's body when reincarnated and we don't know why, if Gege had to announce that only one character is a brave and stunning transwoman it would Uraume imo. Even normie fans were joking that Sukuna is a chaser when we learned that Uraume was a man all along.
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>>2418847So this is bullshit?(not sure if this fits but given fanfiction and fetishes, maybe it does?)
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>>2418523I love the Adventures of Mark Twain so much.
No. 2419091
>>2419087Was about to say the same thing.
>>2419069>executionswat
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>>2419105I'm thinking with futa that maybe they classed stuff like abo under futa?
I can 100% see some women being into the head chopping though. Guro is a girly fetish.
No. 2419318
>>2419309Look I don't consume BL, I don't know everything about it, and as such I consider whatever goes on in there some kind of aberration.
It's more worthwhile to compare what the female does to the male in femgaze vs what the male does to the female in malegaze shit.
No. 2419671
>>2419668Women back down and gaslight themselves into believing that it's the natural state of things.
It was never something for women to begin with, it was actually a moid thing from the start, or it was a gendie tif thing all along.
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>>2419398They dressed a war hero like this
No. 2419713
>>2419694Pretty sure all the characters are historical figures. Or something, I never watched fate but I heard it's trickier than just "the historical figure got teleported." Like an almagamation of the memes surrounding history or something.
I don't know, Edison is a furry and the Voyager probe is the Little Prince.
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>>2419713>Edison is a furry Oh wow, you weren't kidding. Apparently the head is the MGM Lion and he's empowered by all the US presidents
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>>2419714Hey at least the normal version looks like this.
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I'm still mad about what they did to Strawberry Shortcake
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>>2419784This looks like clip art. What did they do to her?!
No. 2419799
>>2419788This broke my heart as a kid.
I was at the time in an
abusive situation, where 'you're a big girl now, act your age' was being used to force me to not show or have emotions, or ask for outside help. I identified heavily with being a child, and toys based around being an adult bored me.
I loved the fact that she was a child! A little girl, like me! Who climbed trees and had jeans because jeans were sturdy!
And then the reboot came, and all that magic just went away.
Remember, girls. You're fertile as soon as you learn to read, childhood is just not for you. Playing is a boys' thing! You have fashion to wear.
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>more and more people are calling out "the everyone is bi" bullshit of fandomtards
the world is healing
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>>2419814Shit like this not being horribly frowned upon is so weird to me? Like at least read the wiki or watch someone else play the game. Worst part is the franchise mention in picrel is EXTREMELY short (4 games and a few drama CDs), so they didn't even put forth minimal effort. The entire post made me want to puke.
No. 2419824
>>2419819>uh, uh, guyz! Please don't get mad at me for talking about something I don't know shit about!If this bitch
isn't a minor, good lord.
No. 2419836
>>2419819I'd say the vast majority of the (western) Mega Man fandom doesn't actually know shit about the games, because they're just too hard, boohoo. At most you'll be lucky they read the wiki.
Hell, I've seen some people who only watched the modern cartoon (the one where Wily is an ugly ginger schoolboy), that think they're
better than the people who actually play the games. Go figure.
No. 2419837
>>2419814Real. Sage bc very specific and don’t wanna be cringe but as a lifelong COD fan I at first welcomed the trend of girls liking ghost edits on TikTok bc it pissed off the gross dudebros that usually populate the fandom. And yeah, don’t get me wrong, I like them too.
But then I couldn’t sift through a tumblr tag without seeing a mind numbing and buzzword heavy post analysis on the characters when they’ve never even played the games and got pretty much every single detail about them wrong whilst getting up in arms if anyone wrote a piece of fanfic that made them anything but reminiscent of a booktok MC. Some even dared to criticise people that had played the games or read the comics etc in some weird mental gymnastics.
People applying their ‘everything needs to be uwuified’ takes on a game series that is notoriously meant to be just cool action slop was hilarious but also gave me herpies.
shit games I know but they have a special place in my heart bc the only time my brothers and I ever got to spend proper time together was playing them kek No. 2419843
>>2419814I understood the "gatekeeping isn!t nice" arguments before, when I was a teenager and not everyone had a computer to pirate everything and you could offically only get physical copies of video games so you regularly had these "are you a real Final Fantasy fan if you haven't played the original untranslated FF3 game and you can't find a second hand copy of FF7 to play because everyone moved to the PS2?" or "if you haven't spent money on merchs you're a fake fan because you don't support creators enough" arguments in forums. Now it's almost only used to mean "if you have the ability to read books/play games/watch episodes yourself effortlessly and for free or cheap and you choose not to but claim to be a fan after checking the series/game's tvtropes page you're
valid, don't listen to the haters!" and it's especially the case with video games and people who watch streamers on twitch or youtube.
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>>2419819Full post for maxed out clownery. Surprised nobody actually called them out in the duration of this being up. I already hate this artist because they recolor the more popular characters to have the Wrong Skincolor, but I'll save that for my own tism rambles some other time.
>>2419824They're a tif at the very least it seems. He/They flavored. Judging from their art style, gonna spitball maybe 18 years old.
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>>2419856>I don't know 90% of the games lore BUT-then zip it. why are you talking? Seriously, I don't get people like this. Either be interested in the game and lore, or don't. Either do your research or AT LEAST watch a gameplay, or leave the fandom alone. I don't understand these limp dicked fake fans crawling from nowhere to ramble about things they don't even
care to research. Why talk so much about something if you don't even care enough about it to know what you're talking about?
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Saw this discourse on twitter yesterday, the book in question is based on a IRL case that happened in the authors hometown and the relationship is not glorified
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>>2419810He’s bi for Peter
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>>2419975then when she was told this, she proceeded to sperg tf out. guess how old this person is
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>>2419975>>2419978I've actually read tampa and it's very clear just a mediocre rip-off of lolita. I wouldn't consider it 'good', but it clearly shows the main character is an awful, petty person who sleeps with teenage boys because she's deeply insecure about herself and thinks fucking teenage boys is the only way for her to have control
No. 2420104
>>2419069The popularity of "choking" and "receiving pain" among women makes me so angry at our society. This is not a fetish women organically acquire, it's 100% something they've been psyoped into.
However, I kek'd heartily at some of the fetishes marked with triangles, indicating that trannies were the top consumers:
>vore>diapers>oviposition>transformations No. 2421477
>>2420056People are just weird with gay and bi men because the thought of it makes them feel objectified which is what men hate the most.
>>2420104I generally wonder what women truly like under all that psy-op degeneracy? I even question what I truly because society tells women what to believe.
No. 2421792
>>2419668It probably went down the same way it does in every female fandom. Some women started to accept troons into their spaces out of pity, and now everyone is self-gaslighting in order to pander to trannies because they are crybabies.
On the bright side, doll collecting communities are not as tainted as other fandoms, there's fags and FTMs on every corner but they're way less annoying
No. 2421860
>>2421477I believe some of the other data points for women, like that they enjoy toys and watching other masturbate regardless of sex, would probably exist in the absence of the normalization of sexual violence. I think because we're socialized to be more invested in the emotions of others, we get something out of seeing others' pleasure. Tattoos and piercings also makes a lot of sense for women to enjoy, since it's an expression of uniqueness and individuality, as well as being "edgy," in a relatively safe way. Gay men and masculinity are pretty straight forward for straight women, too, for the same reason lesbians and femininity are popular with straight men.
I'm pleasantly surprised to see that cunnilingus is equally popular with both sexes. Rapeplay and "dubcon" being relatively unpopular also gives me hope, because it puts to bed the incel meme that "zomg literally all women want to be raped."
No. 2421964
>>2421959I'm proud to be a regular fan artist for a dead niche fandom that
doesn't do the queer shit
No. 2421978
>>2421959The worst is when I think I've found a cool woman talking about this niche thing and its just a troon moid
>>2421970I've become like this too and tbh I miss being deep into a specific fandom or that hooked feeling of hyperfixation
No. 2422025
>>2421792i've seen more tifs than tims in doll collecting because duh, female-dominated hobby. and it also requires creativity for things like customizing and restyling that tims don't have. if the doll collecting fandom was a farm, mhfags would be the cows because holy shit they're so stupid. they kinda put me off the franchise even though i love some of the dolls like g3 drac.
>>2421978>I've found a cool woman talking about this niche thing and its just a troon moidfuck, this. i feel like i shouldn't be having things in common with a tim, like please go fap to loli vns leave the things i like alone?
No. 2422042
>>2421978Kek I don’t miss them at all. Then again mine were always
toxic bc I knew my faves were shit, but I’d still go to fucking war over Snape, Shinji, Eren etc on tumblr. It felt kind of like having a bf that all your friends hate bc he’s trash and you know they’re right
No. 2422075
>>2419875Watching a LP isn't the same as reading a wiki or just absorbing the content off of memes and tiktok. You could watch an entire game from start to finish on youtube and I don't think that's an issue unless you've claimed you played it yourself. Especially if it's a story heavy game.
>>2421959I'm glad the stuff I like doesn't have many western fans so I don't have to see this shit.
No. 2422179
>>2422161Unless the game is open world that doesn't really matter and I can just find someone who made the choices I would. I'm not claiming it's the same as playing the game in the experience but when it comes to participating in fandom I dont need to have played it to have the same understanding or come to my own conclusions.
>>2422172I have before, but some guy saying his opinion on the side doesn't change much.
No. 2422247
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>stop threatening each other over this bs
Is this seriously a thing? And over the ugliest designed cookie?
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>>2413970We need more otomes and mangas with chubby and plain looking women. As an ugly and fat girl in the process of losing weight, I used to like to insert myself as a perfect waifu, but it's getting boring now.
No. 2422288
>>2422151When you're just watching it you can fast forward or skip the annoying grinding and running back and forth and only focus on the story. Saves a lot of time.
I just don't have the patience for JRPG's these days. And most of the time the story isn't worth it.
No. 2422302
>>2422151Imo if you don't think a game is worth playing you can't really consider yourself a fan of it.
I can say I
like Dark Souls, that I find it
interesting but until I finish the games, I wouldn't call myself a fan.
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>>2422279Kind of makes me sad that in Kiss Him Not Me, the MC ended up with
the fag in the green sweater rather than the lesbian, who liked her even when she was fat. All of the others were shallow and only noticed her when she lost weight. I guess that's conservative-ass Japan for you, though.
No. 2422327
>>2422324The guy she ended up with also liked her when she was a fattie though, the other 3 dudes were scum
Tbh I remember hating the mc herself when I read this manga kek
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>>2422359>>2422419>coombrained>Yuritards are always self inserting into things that isnt made for them.Nta but chill out. It’s not attacking your straight romances to point out the moids in that manga (except one) were shallow unappealing assholes. Even readers felt the same. It’s natural for people to find characters who genuinely love the heroine more appealing.
Plus, the lesbian was literally designed to appeal to women(picrel), not whatever assumption you made because you saw the word lesbian. Handsome women have appeared in straight romance manga to tease the heroine tons of times before. Are you gonna get mad at female fans who find them more charming even when that’s how the mangaka designed them?
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Okay while we're in the Fandom thread, can somebody please tell me why zoomers are acting autistic about 'I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream'? Why does it have to be THIS? How did they even find this?
No. 2422489
>>2422321>people talking over moviesI also like MST3K and Rifftrax which are exactly that, lol.
The LP-ers I follow have a similar style.
No. 2422494
>>2422472mouthwashing and the ultra kill update probably
>ultra kill update? mc is a robot who wants to scream but has no mouth
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>>2419784Straight up butchery
No. 2422536
>>2422530Kek you're right, I completely forgot about that. I should have known.
>>2422515Not to mention it gave the moid who developed it a huge ego. God knows the last thing we need is some idiot being convinced the bare minimum writing in his mediocre project is the work of a genius.
No. 2422548
>>2422412I was the same way for a long time. I had a period for about a decade when I only drew OC content. I drew fanrt when I was younger, but I quit after realizing it just felt like I was piggybacking off the works of popular series. I realized I wasn't drawing out of love of the series itself, I was doing it because the series gave me subject matters to draw.
Drawing OC content generally felt a lot more satisfying because I would have full control of the characters and they were wholly mine.
I only recently started drawing fanart again because I found a series I got obsessed with that had very little fanworks, so I felt like I had to pay tribute to it.
No. 2422560
>>2422554Ntayrt but as much as I tell myself this shit i know there's kids being indoctrinated on this trash to think they need to
feel like a girl in order to be one. Gag me with a spoon.
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>451K views
>24K likes
>45 minutes of complaining about pilot crew not making the cut for the actual Amazon Prime production and replaced with professionals fit for the platform's standards as if it was her decision to be made
Videos like this are a stark reminder to me never to get famous as a woman without hiding my identity. Vivziepop is like the most run of the mill personality with minimal controversy while moids in the animation industry run rampant with rape and pedo scandals yet people just can't stop seething and malding over her because she made a self-indulgent, successful show that's made for old school deviantart fujos like herself.
No. 2422857
>>2422799>it was that someone who watches LPs can have the same understanding of the games plot and charactersAnd my point, which you missed, was that the main point of a video game is the gameplay and not the characters or story. Especially when all these elements are intertwined and can't be fully separated so you can misunderstand the story by not playing the game yourself and watching some random guy do it and miss half of the content.
>and participate in fandom just finelmfao so if I want to talk about gameplay with someone about a game we both like what will that person say if they just watched someone else play it? Like about our favorite or least favorite stages, dungeons or chapters, how hard the boss fights are, where the best weapons are hidden, how many shiny pokemon you caught, etc? Besides "this character is my husbando" I mean.
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>>2422857I agree, after changing some of my opinion recently. If a person truly cares about a game, they would play it. Gameplays can give newcomers an insight, but there's no amount of Wiki Fandom pages, TV Tropes "analyses", and random YouTube faggots that can ever really educate people like directly engaging with the source material. I wouldn't even say already knowing the lore is a good excuse to not actually play the game yourself, because if a game truly matters so much, you would still play it to have the lore and the mechanics merge for the full experience.
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>>2422549They've always been considered children even in the 80s storybooks where they are clearly tiny elf/fairy kids with absent parents but that troon shits vile
No. 2422943
>>2422870No comment on the animator's pay, that sucks, but I feel like Brandon Rogers is mostly at fault for the misogynistic writing. While she's still partly to blame for approving it/not reigning him in, the project without him on it (Hazbin) is substantially better than HB.
>Those are things worthy of criticism imo, unlike fetishizing gay men and writing a fag getting raped.Yeah I also don't give one single iota of a fuck about this kek, I'd much rather see this flavour of cringe passion project get funded than the Gooseworx tranny's ugly slop.
No. 2423525
>>2422324Same kek, I hadn't thought of this anime in ages, but the lesbian cosplayer had SO much more in common with the MC:
>Both nerdy>Both into cosplay and animanga>Both fujos>Loved her even as a fatty when the moids didn't>>2422333Because she was included as a love interest in the first place? Also, the entire premise is that she's a fujo who wants to see the boys kiss eachother instead of being with her. Makes a lot more sense that she'd end up with another fujo than your typical boring shoujoslop.
No. 2423781
>>2423525didn't one of the guys also love her before she lost weight?
Also piggybacking off of this to voice how tired I am of people hailing romantic love as the ultimate form of love. Fatasses aren't everyone's type, doesn't mean you are unworthy of love in the form of friendship. That only means the male LI and the lesbo also would fuck fatties not that they "love" her no matter what.
No. 2423843
>>2422741This x100. Viv is absolutely a cow, but in an industry absolutely full of cows. Yet for some reason, her minor transgressions are what people choose to fixate on. How many moids in western animation have been outed as sexual predators at this point? Chris Savino, Kyle Carrozza, Skyler Page, John K, etc. Yet the worst thing people can say about Viv is that she sucks to work for because she's a catty overgrown teenager.
I don't like the slop she makes, I think it's cringe and tryhard. But I also don't think she deserves the level of autistic hatred she gets, especially compared to her male contemporaries. At the very least, I'd like people to hold moid directors/creators to the same standard.
No. 2424027
Vivzie is cringe, and spergs are jealous of her because she's
problematic. That's mostly it. The only real issue I have with her is being a faghag who lets Brandon shit all over her already poor script and keep using gay male characters to undermine female characters. If at any point those two think I am going to side with Stolas over Octavia they are absolutely out of their minds. Hazbin is so much better already by simply just not letting that moid into the writer's room.
>>2423814>She managed to make something genuinely unique whereas everyone else is trying to make boring SOL crap(lsmark, daftpina) or magical girl rip offs.I'm so tired of irony poisoned shit that I'm starting to enjoy earnest cringe. I don't know if creators are so out of touch that they haven't realized the magical girl deconstruction is already old news even in Japan, or if they just think subversion for the sake of subversion makes them epic and revolutionary. That style's cute or whatever but non earnest insecure concepts are an instant skip for me.
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>>2424027>non earnest insecure concepts are an instant skip for me.Same, the only reason why i keep coming back to anime is for weird and earnest concepts that would never be taken seriously in the west. Why are westerns so afraid of being genuine? the only western VN i can think of that isnt trying to mock the medium and ''deconstruct it'' is Katawa Shoujo''. I cant get into most western animation because of that(and the gendie shit), the only western cartoon made in the last 15 years that feels genuine is Primal.
No. 2424073
>>2422741who cares. reminds me of moids who hate on Kim Kardashian, even though they'd give up their first born for the opportunity to sleep with her if she offered.
Vivzie is laughing to the bank while they make their autistic hour long video rants about her lol
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Why is it bad when Vivzie adds her self indulgent fetishes but not when moids do it? i have never seen people criticize male writers for adding manic pixie dream girls falling for the gary stu mc or adding their weird fetishes into everything they make(tarantino). Personally, i am in favour of artists writing whatever the fuck they want, even if it means adding their self indulgent fetishes onto it .Its their story afterall and its my choice if i want to support them or not, so i dont understand why everyone is so pissed off at vivzie's fujo tendencies, just dont watch her show.
No. 2424086
>>2424045I've been making fun of her from day 1 in the western animation thread for being a shit writer, trust me I'm not going to die on the cross for her. If anything that should tell you how low standards are if she has a cancerous tumor attached to her (brandon) and all she has to do is be shamelessly cringe and collect on her infinite money glitch. You probably have the same complaints of her writing as I do. Let's agree to disagree.
>>2424042>the only western VN i can think of that isnt trying to mock the medium and ''deconstruct it'' is Katawa Shoujo''.I've been using this argument for 10 years and there's still only one example of a game I can use. Bleak. Anime VN self hate literally hit people like deadly super aids. At best I only see mild recovery from little otome VN games here and there, but everyone else is too scared to do it. I don't know why.
No. 2424095
>>2424086>I don't know whyWestern culture breeds insecurity like months to a flame. Even after cringe culture's death, people would rather make subversive dating sim comedies than a earnest attempt at a good romance story.
honestly as a aspiring vn dev this does concern me. If you want people to play a VN, as in people one the west, it has to be some form of parody, horror, or subversive fps to get folks on their seats. It's mind numbing to see so many great projects get look down on because how dare they lack gameplay or something…