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>>2269027Discuss art and related topics such as:
-Talk about Art Youtubers
-Ask about art supplies
-Discuss trashy art trends
-Instagram bullshit
-Art theft!
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-do not post your art to be reviewed here use the designated m thread
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Articles about useful resources for improving one's art:
https://hubpages.com/art/how-to-draw-learnhttps://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/https://www.alexhays.com/loomis/Tried and true books on perspective, anatomy for artists, etc:
1. Perspective Made Easy by Ernest R. Norling
2. How to Draw by Scott Robertson
3. Framed Ink by Marcos Mateu-Mestre
4. Figure Drawing by Andrew Loomis
5. The Atlas of Human Anatomy and Surgery JM Bougery
6. Drawing the Head and Hands by Andrew Loomis
7. Figure Drawing by Michael Hampton
8. Force by Michael Mattesi
9. How to Render by Scott Robertson
10. Color and Light by James Gurney
11. The Skillful Huntsman by Scott Robertson/Mike Yamada/Khang Le/Felix
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Useful youtube channels:
https://www.youtube.com/@mangamaterialsyoutube9454https://www.youtube.com/@hidechannel2>where to find arthttps://www.wikiart.org/eshttps://artvee.com/>other useful siteshttps://film-grab.com/https://www.canva.com/colors/color-palettes/https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/figure-drawinghttps://color.adobe.com/es/create/color-wheelhttps://freephotomuscle.com/MANY OF THESE BOOKS ARE AVAILABLE AS FREE PDF FILES ONLINE, GOOGLE AROUND. also check e-hentai and bilibili
No. 2313557
>>2313494the outdated painting source is finally gone kek
threadpic is "Afternoon in September" by Frank Weston Benson
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You cannot get any straighter at first glance with these two. They are drawn stereotypically straight.
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sorry if this has been asked already (I’ve looked through the old threads and haven’t found much) but are there brushes nonas would recommend for this kind of painterly style in procreate? I adore the rendering style of picrel but I have had trouble getting the hang of it on procreate. I use a hand-me-down iPad and don’t really have the spare money to buy a drawing tablet, so I’d like to work with what I have— but all the artists I admire use sai and that’s not available for iPad (unless there’s some trick I’m unaware of). I’ve imported some custom brushes but haven’t yet found anything that can recreate this nice smooth painterly effect. The painting tutorials I’ve seen for procreate don’t produce the look I want.
No. 2314507
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i may be dumb and unknowledgeable about these topics but this just seems petty
No. 2314543
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I am disappointed as many people who know how to draw and even popular artists use AI and nobody realizes, if their drawings did not have a soul before now a lot less
Left is the new drawing, it doesn't even have the ability to trace, what is that lineart?
No. 2314606
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>>2314259disclaimer I'm relatively new to digital painting myself, and couldn't find a high enough res image to really pixel peep, this was the highest res file:
https://64.media.tumblr.com/72b64f8e6a29f159eddd806e1ceaa521/14ba220858d15f5a-8a/s1280x1920/8954981a87ffe14defd02d630d968888ab4e3f0c.jpg, but…
I don't really think any particular brush is going to get you the look you want. if you look closely at the linked file around the characters' feet and compare the grass and clothing textures, you'll notice there are least 4 or 5 different brushes being used. the trick is that everything is layered and nothing is a totally flat opaque texture, there's gaps and opacity allowing the other layers to show through (like traditional oil painting), and because the artist is rotating between so many different brushes it helps stop it from looking too digital with perfect uniformity, there's some "randomness".
Secondly, use several different hues of a similar value, even within parts of the picture that should be the same color. Look at any little section of one of the dresses where there is no shading, and notice that it's not just blue, but green and grey and brown and blue and purple, all of similar value and layered over each other. Try using a small zoomed in section as a reference layer on your own drawing and play with the color picker, going pixel by pixel adding all the different colors to your palette.
picrel is the only part where I found a non standard brush texture, where you could try making your own custom brush to recreate
No. 2314967
>>2314963I swear none of you read, i said
at the very least i study 30 min a day. You clearly dont read my posts and are just acting condescending when you dont even know how my art looks.
No. 2314991
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>>2314507The rugs were hanged in walls because most of the Russians back in the old days couldn't afford a stove, so having a rug help it to keep the apartment warm, also they worked as sound proof since the walls were thin af. It wasn't only for decoration. Same with the "commie blocks". Be salty AF, Sasha, but please take a lesson on Russian culture first?
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>>2315040So approximately 3 hours per day. Just keep at it. If that's all you're able to dedicate, and I genuinely don't mean to be condescending what I say this, try to cut down on studies that are "tedious shit" to you and do more art you're personally invested in. I learned a lot more about art obsessively drawing fanart for Genshin Impact than I ever did actually taking art classes. Best of luck.
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>>2315096Not that nonna but thank you for the link! I found the ones I was looking for a while. Hope you have good Festivities.
No. 2315235
>>2314606Ayrt, thank you for such an in depth explanation, this made a lot of things click for me! I used to love working with colors when I was a teenager and doing traditional art with pastels, but I’ve had a hard time getting the hang of it on digital. this was really helpful (I forget how to insert the little heart thing we have but pretend it’s there)
>>2315096Thank you! I’ll look through these— I previously found some through the procreate forums but most of the artists making custom brushes there aren’t actually at a high skill level and their brushes are pretty wonky. What you’ve linked looks better, thank you nona (vk is a lifesaver generally)
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I really wish Kiyo Kyujo went back to her old method of colouring. Her digital artworks just dont hit the same as her older works, im disappointed
No. 2315405
>>2314507Sorry for late reply but commie blocks and those rugs aren't exclusive to russians kek (the artist is from kazakhstan) pretty much everyone in eastern europe has had some kind of irl exposure to them. Not only that but they didn't disappear after the soviet union fell, plenty of us have never lived a day under communism but still appreciate having our day to day lives represented in art
>t. romanian with family in moldova who's had plenty of experience with post soviet stuff and loves her art>>2314541you'd think they'd know better than to call someone from an ex soviet state russian kek
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>>2315022If you’re practicing consistently and not seeing improvement you might need to focus on learning how to learn. Plenty of people on DAD have years of daily drawings and they never improve because they aren’t actually learning. Skills are like muscle groups and just focusing on one part of the skill will give you diminishing returns and you risk burning yourself out. Picrel was useful for developing my artistic eye and breaking down subconscious patterns in my art habits that were holding me back. I share this out of love nonna because I have been in your place before and I understand how frustrated you must feel.
No. 2315521
>>2315519Thanks
nonny, i remember reading this but i will give it a second try.
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I am struggling so much to come up with an art name. How did you nonnies choose yours?
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>>2315519Ntayrt but this is a great bit of advice, thanks
nonnie! For any painters in the thread, I highly recommend James Gurney's book on light and color theory. Very succinct, easy to understand and covers a ton of topics. Hands down one of the best practical books for the fine arts I've ever bought.
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This came up on my tl and I was shocked to see it had 13k likes because it looks like utter shit lmfao?
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She is just never gonna stop seething.
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>>2315400They will never look the same because they’re two different artists. The first one is even signed, you can see Thores in the bottom left corner.
No. 2316498
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>>2315919This was posted already
>>2309722. But yes, she's stuck talking about how she's a
victim on a loop. Now she's vagueposting about someone else tracing her art, she said in the comments that she might actually show something this time.
No. 2316507
>>2316498>it may very well come to that, in due timewhat a massive cunt kek. A perpetual
victim indeed. She sounds insufferable and extremely mentally ill.
No. 2316519
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>>2314507ukrainians are going to be petty and salty about people romanticizing soviet union forever, just get used to it and move on
i know it sounds ridiculous to outsiders but if you lived in the same cultural context you'd understand. you never will though and that's ok. not sure what she tried to achieve by tweeting that in english
No. 2316591
>>2316556yeah a lot more lately. like I don't relate to artists I see irl at all.
I feel like my work is immature compared to everyone else, like I didn't really grow up from liking colorful animals since I was like 6 and feel ashamed for it. things like that
No. 2316654
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>>2316556>>2316591I also feel this way. This is what was my biggest insecurity for years. I'd draw a lot and despite having dozens of drawings at any given time I'd really have nothing to show for it. It has pushed me to start trying to make more "serious" pieces recently. I haven't stopped drawing my ocs nor do I think I ever will, but I now try to make art that portrays them more interestingly than "guy just standing there on blank background" either by trying more interesting poses or compositions.
It's still lesser in the eyes of irl normies and trad artists who expect me to paint landscapes and realistic portraits but it's helped me get over not even having anything of value to show people when they ask me what I draw. Something like picrel is simple in appearance and not conceptually complex but has enough appeal that it's not a public humiliation ritual to show around. Personally if I'm not rendermaxxing a piece and keep it lightly cell shaded I add a bunch of texture overlays and it makes it looks more interesting to the eye. You don't have to stop drawing your ocs for people to take you more seriously, even if you enjoy slice of life, silly, casual kind of art. I do those too sometimes and what I realized helped its appeal was to portray it as candid shots of the situations you draw like you'd see in photography. Two friends just sharing food or something can be a very nice image if posed and composed nicely.
I do understand though that it all mostly depends on your art style, and people often don't take more cartoony work or work stylized in certain ways seriously at all, but as tired as it is to bring it up once you grind your fundies you can get over that hurdle. I'll use brujoari as an example here because anons are familiar with her work. She has cartoony art that isn't really anything that would be too hard to execute with some practice but it seems to have enough appeal to people that it got its own show, despite her just drawing silly situations of her ocs doing dumb shit as you put it.
I hope I didn't come off preachy, it is not my intention to be some arbiter of new groundbreaking knowledge because god knows I'm not some art savant either, but this is what helped me become more confident and to improve without really changing my subject matters all that much. Good luck anons!
No. 2317069
>>2316556In terms of technical skill, sometimes, but not so much subject matter. I've had thoughts that I'm uncreative because I don't care about OCs and only draw fanart, but fanart of my favorite characters is meaningful to me. There's no reason character-focused art can't be "meaningful", even if not everyone will understand that. But I also draw mainly character interactions, and I draw environments all the time, as well as trying more abstract ideas. I'm allergic to drawing characters just standing around with no interesting poses, props, or set-pieces, unless it's just practicing their design. Even if I'm not familiar with the characters, I find myself drawn to art where they're interacting with each other in an environment or has some interesting visual symbolism.
I second everything
>>2316654 said. Comparing yourself to others can help challenge you but different people have different goals and approaches to art, too much comparison can become self-defeating poison.
No. 2317113
>>2316556yes but because i feel like i haven't improved since i was like 14 kek. now any 16 year old online can mog me, or at least it feels like that. i know it's all my fault. unironically i feel like i improved the most when i drew out of boredom during class, and now that i'm out of school i have no reasons to draw… i mean, i
still like doing it, but seeing how anyone can get lightyears ahead of me by just existing kinda kills my passion.
No. 2317283
>>2317214>nona posted this 2 hours agoJust checked out the stream, it’s still live, and she’s STILL complaining about Genice, the fuck kek.
Also she was calling Genice delusional then minutes later said some shit about “not all artists are magical girls”, some are “evil spellcasters” and “witches” implying Genice is one of those KEKKK (~3:06:00 mark I think)
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>>2317214>>2316498It seems the Marvel cover trace wasn't with Juby's art, it was traced of InkPangur's art that she gifted Juby. The tracer is rianbowart. Juby feels entitled to the drama because the drawing traced was a gift to her, she mentioned in her stream that she was the one who pushed her friend Nina to contact the girl. She at least showed evidence this time, but I'm still curious what she had on Genice.
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No. 2317696
>>2317451>>2317140Illustration is all about communicating an idea, anon would not be a good illustrator if all their drawings are bland with weak concepts. My advise to anon would be to do master copies of illustrations you love, and analyze what you like about them. Pick out themes, motifs, colors, characters, poses, etc. you enjoy looking at. Analyze yourself, what movies and genres do you like, there's a reason, find out why media excites you instead of passively consuming content. Anon is correct that focusing on art fundies doesn't make you a great artist, generating ideas and executing good visuals is the hardest part about art. And learning every muscle in an anatomy book or how to paint shiny hair will not teach you how to generate good ideas.
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>>2316556Sometimes, specially when others have a big public on their work while I only have some bots? But then I remember I do the art for me first, so the numbers of rt/comment/visits do not bother me anymore.
Picrel, my battlestation.
No. 2317800
>>2317285Back in my HS I was also "the artists Nonna", but my class never asked me to draw stuff for the class, not something as a gift because I was so weird and deep in my Fandom life, they thought I would never be able to draw something else.
After seeing how they destroyed a drawing I made for the class, I never wanted to draw for them. Their problem, not mine.
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>>2315919>>2316498I did some snooping in her twitter replies, and I find it intriguing that she schmoozes out to a lot of big artists. If it weren't for her track record it would probably seem like shes just supportive of her mutuals/friends, but knowing how she lashes out on others and gets a thrill out of holding someones reputation over their head it all looks so slimy.
Im glad Genice proved her right on one thing and its her P.R control because Juby has been seething left and right that she remained unaffected by her public sperging and is threatening on doing a "public callout" (acting as if she hadn't already done so on her multiple livestreams and multiple social media accounts)
No. 2318555
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Sage for not being huge drama or anything but do any other nonnies have artists who you used to love for years, only to slowly start disliking them later on?
Picrel is Little Thunder's ig page, top from 2019-ish bottom from 2024. I used to adore her early artwork, I'd been following her since she used to only post her art on Flickr (lol), but lately I find her work so dull. If it isn't a gijinka of her cats, it's the same Asian-looking anime pinup (usually in tight or revealing clothing) doing a boring pose against a boring background. Tbf she's always had a thing/gimmick of drawing the same face and focusing on beautiful women, but it just feels especially prevalent with her work nowadays.
I hate to call female artists coomery, but I can't help but feel disappointed. Even with that random screenshot I took from 2019, you can tell the art has a nicer color palette, more variety of perspective, etc… it's not just some full-body pinup against a background. Anyone with a similar experience?
No. 2318561
>>2318555I used to really love Loputyn's art around the early 2010's, particularly her comic Les Trois Roses. It looked very beautiful and charming even if the anatomy looked a little off sometimes, the settings and outfits were super detailed and her subjects had more variety (she also used to draw more bishie men, which I particularly liked).
Then around 2015-16 Loputyn started to shift her focus and her pieces started to get a lot more sexual in tone. Young girls (I'm not saying she's a pedo or anything but it's clear she prefers drawing petite, young-looking girls) nude, in lingerie, getting fondled or pretty much haxing sex or in other intimate situations. Sure it's artistic and all and it didn't particularly offend me that much but I quickly grew bored at it. I'm glad she seems to be doing well but I was more intrigued by her older art. I get it, soft girl getting intimate something something naked something something contrast between purity and innocence and carnal desires etc etc, but if it's all she does now it's just fairly boring.
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>>2318561same, i followed loputyn's works religiously. i remember it was one of my main objectives to one day draw like her because i was obsessed with the way she drew dresses. i remember it was when drawings like pic related started to get a lot of attention and popular that she started to lean more into adding suggestive themes to her art, which then evolved into her drawing essentially softcore porn. her art is still very beautiful but like you said i'm a bit bored by the constant loop about the same themes in the same styles and the same visual metaphors and so on. she also doesn't draw complex backgrounds or outfits anymore, at least not as often as she did around 2014 and 2016, which is a pity.
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>>2318555for me it's potozaur/valarkspur, see picrel for puppychan level art degradation
the eastern euro takes on western media used to be charming but now it's mainly weird ugly bastard/"femboy" tradwife fetish shit
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>>2318570Nta but this is the 'femboy' in question:
No. 2318592
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>>2318555Meyoco. I used to follow her when she mostly did traditional watercolour as she inspired me to get into the medium. I enjoyed her yuri on ice artworks as well but shortly after her art blew up and she began churning out the same kawiwi aesthetic celestial boba tea vidya reference artwork over and over and stopped doing traditional, I just got bored of it and unfollowed
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>>2318590I know its supposed to be a FTM femboy but it just gives Alice from Superjail vibes with the big fake tits and manhands, plus seething over real women talking to his husband, lol.
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>>2318592same, used to love meyoco's work before she went all digital. not that she invented it but i basically consider her to be ground zero of the kawaii aesthetic celestial boba tea vidya art style which i have grown to loathe.
speaking of, i remember really getting annoyed with her when she did that post shortly after qinni passed away. i don't quite recall what she said but imo she was being very rude about it, basically throwing a fit over people comparing her art to qinni's and wondering whether they knew each other irl, which, fair enough, but still not the best thing to be all me me meeee after someone passes away.
No. 2319370
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I want to get back into art, but I’m not sure where to share it. Is there a place where you can post art and actually get constructive criticism? Are social media platforms still worth it, or is Discord better? Any resources or advice would be super helpful. I’m a confused artist who hasn’t created seriously in a decade but wants to get back into it professionally. I’m focusing on digital painting and children’s book illustration, so I need to keep my name clean. I found a radfem server, but it feels risky since people might recognize my art. Any tips?
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>>2318555I remember seeing an artist years ago called Yu Dori/Yudori and really liking her painting style but she was also kind of a massive lolcow and blew up for a bit because of comics having really weird content. I tried looking up what they do now and it's mostly erotic web comics
No. 2319459
>>2317214This is the most unhinged shit I've ever seen. 7 hours of nonstop complaining about genice and the one who traced her friend's art, but mostly genice. Around the 7 hour mark she's just airing genice's entire dirty laundry saying this like
>she doesn't have any trauma, she has loving parents and "never went through anything in her life">her biggest trauma in life is when she worked for trigger and they didn't let her "sit at the big boy's table>at the same time she was credited as the art director for some ending animation but they never invited her to any of the meetings, juby says she "should have asked why" and that genice "leaves out information that makes her look bad" and "probably did something to warrant that">another animator got hired a year later and genice thought she was being treated better than her just because she was assertive, she got invited to those aforementioned meetings genice didn't >genice confides in juby about being jealous of the other girl, and hurt by the situation>juby says that she "frames everything as if she's the victim", says she is "spiteful" and demonizes her for having been jealous of the other girl, says she only steals because she's jealous>"feeling jealousy is not a pleasant emotion but that doesn't mean you were hurt" this is now an injoke with her husband, "hurt by jealousy">juby says that "as far as we know she could be lying about all that too because if you can steal you can lie" >calls genice a narcissist nonstop, talks about her being a psychopath and her psychopathy>juby called genice "delusional" and "self deluded" and on a call genice told her she was hurt by those comments and juby says she "won't take it back because it's true">continues to underline that she only told her that because it's the truth, and that it's not that bad and genice overreacted>genice in response called her controlling >juby knows her parents and says "they should be ashamed to have a daughter like genice">says that genice goes to therapy but "probably doesn't do any work" and "only goes there to get buttpats and validation" >genice is insecure because she has little life experience as opposed to our brave and stunning traumatized jubyIt's all like this. She sounds completely nuts. Someone should archive these streams before she wakes up and DFEs them. This woman must be an autist to have such a low level of empathy, it's the only explanation.
No. 2319491
>>2319428try to draw traditionally along with digitally, like doing traditional sketches and turning them into digital pieces. I feel my art was best when I did that.
Doing so will keep you from being so dependent on shortcuts like the undo/redo button and lasso tool
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>>2316498i discovered some juicy gossip kek, apparently juby and genicecream on twitter had a fallout. i'm currently listening to a past broadcast of her stream, which is from three days ago during the time this is posted:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2332990367?filter=archives&sort=timei'm just around 30 minutes in and she talked about how genicecream stole from her art, to make fan merch? so this is why genice posted this..interesting
she probably halted her shop because her new merch had the things that she stole from juby.
juby complains a lot on twitter and i saw the recent marvel tracing drama, so out of curiosity i checked her twitch broadcasts because i know she vents a lot there and just found this out. i wonder how long this genice drama happened, the second newest broadcast was 11 days ago so maybe she talks about it more there or in past broadcasts too
No. 2319528
>>2319522>>2319523>>2317214oops sorry i am stupid and this was already discussed.
i'd love to see what genice copied from juby
No. 2319565
>>2319551so i wonder if genice is going into a big hiatus because she's changing her eden story thing, whatever juby namedropped on bluesky, i forgot the title, just that i had eden in it.
but i'm pretty sure genice also copied some stuff in her fan merch because juby complained about her merch in particular in her stream
No. 2319629
>>2315002>Its not funny its just annoying because my algorithm pushes it to me when i am watching actual lost media contentJust look away.
>t. If you were looking for animal videos and instead you got recommended some anime cat girl you would be pissed too.This doesn't happen.
> Its also a bunch of underage zoomies doing this and trying to create the next internet mistery.Who cares, again, just look away you autist.
No. 2319641
>>2319605>I used to think she was just mad that genice didn't take the bait and give juby a real reason to expose herThis is still the reason she's sperging. If she had any real concrete evidence that genice copied her, she'd post it like
>>2317355 but it's hard to accuse someone of stealing your concepts, especially if they're incredibly generic (like most anime flavored stories are imo) All of this sounds like pure jealousy for personal unsaid reasons, and awful for someone older to direct towards a younger person you've been friends with since before she was 18. Juby is supposedly Christian, so she should practice some grace and forgiveness.
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>>2319565It sounds like a vendetta because Genice makes your average milquetoast quirky fandom merchandise that
everyone makes nowadays, so unless its blatant tracing I feel like Jubys only mad because shes "concept stealing" again like she did with her ocs. it seems like juby is running out of things to pin blame onto Genice so shes currently targeting her cash cow which is merchandise products.
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I just think it’s kinda funny that she cross posts the same whiny bullshit on more than one platform, picrel from her Bluesky.
No. 2320481
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“I hate drama and try to avoid it at al costs”
No. 2320777
>>2320763Samefag but I just saw she went live on twitch to talk about the rianbow situation with evidence
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2334789287She's calling rianbow a sociopath too, the same way she is with genice. At this point I feel like that's just a meaningless buzzword with her to identity anybody she doesn't like. It sucks it was traced but that doesn't mean this person lacks normal human emotions and is incapable of remorse.
No. 2321114
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coomers mad
No. 2321163
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I think this is so cute. Her show would be peak if it wasn’t tif shit. I feel like her show wanting to be so women-centric is defeated with her oc trooning out. (Apologies if this should go in a fandom thread or something.)
No. 2321172
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>>2321163whats cute about this? looks boring as fuck. Same generic stiff pose, same generic body type, same fashion everytime. Every woman she draws looks like timmy's mom.
No. 2321184
>>2321176I bet if she potrayed Charlie and Vaggie's relationship with any flaw or toxicity they would call her a misogynistic fujo who clearly hates women and lesbians for potraying them as
toxic and not wholesome blushy underage girls like in thier yuri animu. Yuritroons already tried to cancel her for calling the lesbian character Vaggie.
>>2321178I am not christian but it feels blasphemous to draw a slutty virgin Mary
No. 2321251
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>>2321163 I also think some of her stuff is suuuper cute, picrel is really adorable imo, but I feel so conflicted because the TIF nlog shit she pushes onto her characters is so cancerous. But simultaneously, if I squint my eyes, kind of based? Like, she obsesses over these characters who are female??? Even if the female one is a TIF I think it’s ironic that all of her art is depicting females in some sort of way but then is like these are my he/him boiz.
It’s extra funny that these characters amalgamated from her yaoi art, which even then, her kakyoin was female and was the center of the jotaros affection (?). She drew kak the most and always depicted her as super pretty and adored by the other yaoi dude. Almost like the jotaro was her avatar to unabashedly glaze the female kakyoin OC. Idk. There’s something based there but I’m too retard to put it into words. Or maybe I’m just schizophrenic
No. 2321306
>>2321163>>2321251>nonas unironically liking this shitthis is why I don't take anyone's opinions here seriously. some of you clearly don't draw and clearly don't have taste. go watch total drama or the fairy odd parents if you love this shit so much.
>>2321172 is the only one who gets it.
No. 2321339
>>2321323I honestly like yassified Daria tbh and agree with
>>2321251 in thinking it could be somehow based without the TIF shit (or maybe I'm schizophrenic too)
No. 2321559
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>>2321540Same-fag but I got it messed up- she went to SVA 2010-2014 which is also a private nepo baby school. Paying 200k for an education (that you could get for less at a non private) is sacrilegious to my people and we do not claim her.
No. 2321609
>>2321465Hispanic isn't a race, it's about culture and language (which Hispanic Latinos inherited from the Spanish, who are largely white since they are in Europe)
There are white people who were born and raised in Latin America, that doesn't suddenly erase their European genes
No. 2321881
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>>2318555Kek I liked tamakids art at first but tbh all her characters look the same. And even worse she makes them all look like her. It’s so off putting.
No. 2321904
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Youtube artists who go "child pornography bad" over and over until they get an audience are eventually going to be eaten alive by it the second they step out of line. This person in particular clearly has the maturity to give nuanced takes but seems to backpedal hard instantly, even if the subject they're discussing is a 16 year old grooming and/or rape victim who is displaying clear signs of traumatized behavior. Mfer acting like Emily Youcis in present day is more sympathetic than literal teens trying to make sense of the world and torment they were put through.
No. 2321937
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>>2321127eh, I can see it
No. 2321946
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>>2321251Her art is very cute, but there really is no substance to it. Most of it is either about how pretty Not!Kakyoin is or "transgender yaoi". These characters would be more interesting if there was less focus on the gendershit.
>>2318590FWIW I honestly still like her newer art, but her weird tradwife femboy tranny mom character is the worst. She's built like a fucking shake weight.
No. 2321966
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>>2321251I agree her art is pretty cute even if it's very derivative. The nlog shit then pandering to coomers just makes me sad but that seems to be the trend for a lot of artists.
No. 2321968
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I feel like I have studied anatomy, posing, and colors good enough where I feel like I can start making more dynamic art pieces like picrel. But I feel like this amount of studying has effectively trapped myself into staying safe and sticking to only doing studies, when I really want to be pursuing more advanced illustrations. Is there anyone here with advice on how to escape this? I also feel like art has felt a lot less fun because of this.
No. 2322103
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>>2321251I don't really like her ones with the guy
i liked that pic of Kate shipped with mary I find her just generic y2k styled pics of Kate the cutest like pic rel
No. 2322111
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>>2322091Based kek, I hate how her popularity led to so much copycats, it’s all just zoomers trying to crappily imitate another zoomer’s coomerfied pastiche of daria x mtv downtown. They(and Brujoari) look more like people with Total Drama nostalgia than Daria nostalgia kek, what with the body types they give the girls.
No. 2322119
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>>2322111Brujo Ari's designs are so ass. Its all the same copy pasted thicc girl in lowrise jeans and croptops. I have seen Daria background characters that blow her shitty mary sue oc's design out the water.
No. 2322127
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>>2322119Even Daria and Jane look more interesting because they weren't restricted to dressing like Quinn all the time. They want their characters to feel unique, but they put no real effort into actually making them feel different. Kate's supposed to be a bit of an outcast, but nothing really separates her from the popular girls outside of her wearing baggy jeans.
No. 2322149
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>>2322111Maybe I’m being kooky but the one in the red shirt looks so much like one of of this artist’s ocs,I’m a little suspicious
No. 2322160
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>>2322111you can see how the brujoari inspiration hit like a truck in real time, these are just next to each other in her insta lmao. i wonder how brujoari herself feels.
No. 2322176
>>2322149I hate this artist so much, her work is so stiff and hideous
>>2322152Dickishly, pickme coomer artist
No. 2322185
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>>2322176>look at her media tab>all of her art is of her scrawny gross rapist moid oc fucking her curvy brown self-insertHow is she not embarrassed.
No. 2322196
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>>2322185I thought that was Casca fanart at first, turns out the artist was a berserk fan.
Unsurprisingly she’s drawn mouthwashing fanart of Anya and the moid who raped her too No. 2322218
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This is one of the few female artists I've seen online in the wild that has had such a blatant disregard for gendie etiquette, though it's also probably because this artist is Russian. I find the roundabout reasoning for not having pronouns in bio and 'I don't identify as female, I am' stuff pretty funny and also inspiring since she's not ignoring people but directly responding (though her comment section is pretty supportive). Have you nonnies seen any other female artists act this way on social media?
No. 2322220
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>>2322215He reminds me of Jeff the killer
No. 2322224
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>>2322196>that tweet>spoilered textwhy are pickmes like this
No. 2322232
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>>2322224>>2322176>pickme Is she really
No. 2322233
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>>2322215Maybe if you have a humiliation fetish, he’s clearly for that audience of girls who get off on the shame and depravity of being fucked by a revolting perverted loser moid
No. 2322239
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>>2322149>>2322185>>2322196>>2322232>>2322233wait
WHAT?! You mean to tell me that this WAS NEVER a tranny and was/is a WOMAN
the whole time?! Holy SHIT.
No. 2322240
>>2321832I'm using an XP-Pen, granted it's a large screen one but the brand seems pretty alright and it's affordable (I also chose XP-Pen because it supports Linux).
I've tried Huion and couldn't get it to work at all, but I've had less issues with my XP-Pen than Huion or even Wacom.
Maybe you could also look at second hand listings if you want to spend even less money.
No. 2322243
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>>2322232That’s the most bihet lipservice tweet ever kek
>women who draw yaoi hot af>need me some fujo pussyAnd all she draws is bimbo girls getting raped by ugly guys
>>2322239I think she’s a tif, judging by her strawpage picrel
No. 2322370
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>>2322309Funny you say that because she drew porn of them too
No. 2322435
>>2322243she could choose any male name she wanted and she chose "penis"?
>>2322370reminds me of shadman
No. 2322437
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Saying all this while the ugly fuck’s girlfriend
>>2322185 looks like a bimbofied abomination lmao
No. 2322443
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>>2322437>it'd be cute to make a guy who is ugly and disgusting but lowkey fuckable and kinda hot but a registered sex offender but he has a fat dick so-repulsive, also what's with these degens showing their weird porn to their parents? first fanny now her
No. 2323001
>>2322233She reminds me of that artist who draws herself or her OC's being raped by serial killers or school shooters. Maybe it's the same person
Her ugly moid OC is very ugly in this pic, but not in the way she thinks kekkk
No. 2323004
>>2321968Had a similar problem, just draw the Thing and trust yourself. Take your own reference photos when you're really lost in the sauce.
Found I was forgetting how to draw out of my head when all I did was study.
No. 2323127
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>>2322774she has official figures that look like pic rel anon. I dont know why western weebs shit their pants over moids sexualizing miku when shes sexualized officially pretty often.
No. 2323148
>>2323140Remember when
Shota Shota Island was a meme in the Vocaloid fandom kek
No. 2323555
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>like stupidly detailed art
>struggle to focus on a piece for too long without getting frustrated
Anyone else has this problem? I envy giga autists like hamster fragment so much.
No. 2323628
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Anyone use/heard of this rednote app? It's basically just Chinese pinterest. Apparently there are a lot of good art tutorials on there?
No. 2323989
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How does one fall in love with art again? I've been taking breaks from drawing in hopes that I'll feel more ready but every time I pick up my tablet I feel nothing but disappointment with every minor mistakes I make. I want to finally get to the second level of my art but it seems like I don't want to do it to begin with.
>>2319370Doing things IRL in terms of constructive criticism is always a good bet. Maybe try finding local groups in your area. Though I do think Discord (if you're careful enough to choose one that isn't insane) would be a good alternative.
No. 2324206
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How do I start learning how to draw vehicles?
I understand the theory but I can't break down volumes and proportions and I'd need some guidance.
No. 2324320
>>2324206Start with Drawabox exercises to get your mind in the right place to think about the planes of the vehicle. Break it down into simple shapes, if you can, do lots of studies, experiment with different shading techniques to get the volume and texture across more accurately.
Watching videos on how they work could help, it helped me a lot when I was drawing motorbikes and it might help you if you want to draw something like your picrel since it'd give you a better idea of the components and how they fit together, how much space it'd take up, etc.
>>2323989It sounds like you're afraid of disappointing yourself when you don't meet your own high standards. You could take a break from doing finished pieces and stick to simple exercises that you know won't look good but will still help you improve. If you work digitally, definitely stick to traditional art for a while, just so you're not tempted to undo your work constantly. Get a sketchbook and copy something without looking at the page, or without lifting your pencil, or cut paper into simple shapes like squares and circles and glue them into your sketchbook to copy paintings you like. You'll improve your brain/hand coordination and learn to simplify shapes without getting lost in the details. Once you've become more comfortable with actually doing art, you'll start to enjoy it again.
No. 2324321
>>2324211Holy fuck there needs to be a law against letting children voice for that kind of shit
>>2324301Colors are slightly muted, extremely smooth brush strokes, and the faces, I think, particularly make it look like that, as there's no hint of expressiveness in it at all, just a blank stare.
No. 2324328
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>>2324301I mean AI literally steals anime art, I'm not sure what you are expecting. They trained the AI off of other people's art, of course some Artists would resemble the AI. Lines is decent enough. His post processing video was a nice little nugget of info with regards to controlling values and colors of shading.
No. 2324338
>>2324336kek same, i joined and no joke she was already saying “my last friend was a narcissistic high sociopath” or something and left
might listen to the broadcast on x2 speed later
No. 2324383
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>GENICE IS A NARCISSISTIC, SOCIOPATHIC, PSYCHOPATHIC, ABUSIVE, ABELEIST, EVIL, SOULLESS GHOUL WHO ABUSED AND BOOLIED ME AND KILLED MY DOG REEE
No. 2324394
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>>2323132KEKKKK Thank you so much for saying this, I couldn't put my finger on what the stiffness of her art reminded me of
No. 2324397
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>>2324383turned it into a gif
No. 2324540
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>>2324030He draws a lot of wifufag stuff on his alt.
No. 2324571
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>>2324568No, he's japanese. Also, its a pajama not an uniform.
No. 2324621
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>>2324610eh? you mean serval? or the artist? the artist is a man and i am sure he never implied otherwise
No. 2324654
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>>2324644Wanting to troon out isnt the same as actually trooning out, stop moving the goalpost. If troons would just do what Eguchi Hisashi did and focus on drawing their girlsonas instead of actually trooning out we would live in a slightly better world.
No. 2324759
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>>2324654>no you dont understand my glorious nipponese artists cant be troons they only pretend to! Nevermind the troon bars and other okama shitAlso
>Girlsona>as if he didnt draw a troonsona too where the moid is "prettier" than actual womenso a troon drawing weird fetish shit of women is alright unless he chops off his dick?
No. 2324772
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>>2324765>you're literally using the argument that troons use called trutransWhere did you even get that from my post jfc, learn to read.
No. 2324943
>>2324625>>2324636>>2324644Japan is much more strict about trans surgery.
It's illegal to go trans if you have children under the age of 18, and (until recently) anybody going through gender change would be have to be surgically sterilized first.
No. 2325433
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>>2321881Does anyone else think this hair looks wack
No. 2325493
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How do you deal with frustration while working on a project you know you dont have the art skills for? I am making a game, and it makes me frustrated to know i can't reach my vision because of my lack of skill. I know its all a matter of keeping practicing, but the lingering fear of never improving is terrifying. I try to take inspiration from Zun, One, Ryukishi and Yuzhong but not gonna lie, i feel like i cant get over the art not being good enough and feeling like it diminishes my overall efforts to make a good game.
No. 2325510
>>2325487Try focusing on drawing comics instead of just regular art, people will pay more attention to your ocs, even if it's just small short comics. In fact, that might be better as it's easier to digest to most people. I can get several thousand likes on a picture of my oc acting stupid and relatable but sub 1k on just a static image.
>>2325451Just be upfront about what type of audience you're creating content for, a lot of creators who got into shit for drawing dark fiction got an audience first by making art that seemed innocent and cutesy. While I do have a cutesy art style, my characters are always talking about shit like self harm and suicide and engaging in constant violence and things like rape and abuse are a consistent theme. I draw these things because I've faced a lot of abuse and mental health issues in my own life but teenagers online think they have a phd and have come to the conclusion that making fiction isn't a
valid way to come to terms with your trauma. Now I wouldn't say I have a fandom since I'm still pretty early into creating this content, but I have many many thousands of followers and I get some people wondering if they can make OCs in my setting, so maybe I'll get there someday, but I digress. I do occasionally receive comments trying to label me a "
problematic" creator but I just delete them and don't engage. I do, however, interact with people who are enjoying what I create as I feel extremely thankful that my work could reach other people, as it's extremely personal to me and comes from the heart. People will always be assholes, don't let them scare you out of self expression, as the majority of people will engage with your work positively unless you're literally creating ragebait.
No. 2325511
>>2325493finish your game first so you can later remake it with better art when it's done
what's more important is you finish somnething rather than make it perfect right off the bat imo
No. 2325931
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>artist I followed over a year posts what I thought was cute lesbians trying on lingerie-
>looks closely
That's fucking it, starting 2025 I will no longer follow any troon or themby artist no matter what. I know it will reduce so much content but I am growing so tired.
No. 2325947
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>>2325934I thought the same until I saw the tags…
No. 2325953
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>>2325940Doubleposting to pathetically defend myself
I unfortunately share too many interests with troons, even the more "normie" stuff is starting to get infiltrated so is either I forgo everything I love or don't let the entire existence of troons ruin stuff for me.
I'm just sad because I also enjoy her web dev stuff along with her art but I don't want to be jumpscared with sudden appearance of sick.
No. 2326091
>>2325978Gross. I used to follow her on neocities until I realized she sucks troon dick
>>2326039Fuck artfight, I'm still mad that the nonnies that participated got banned
No. 2326097
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>>2325953Oh you orbit xiv artists too, i completely understand your pain. I know I shouldnt be surprised since the game attracts trannies like flies but it sucks i have to follow eastern artist exclusively to have decent content without the gendie brainworms.
Theres some incredibly talented western xiv artists but even if they dont post tranny content themselves they follow or are acquainted with someone who does. its a cruel world
No. 2326105
>>2326091it was incredibly naïve and foolish to link personal social media accounts under a tag that associates to this site, TRAs and trannies lurk frequently to scope out targets after all, and artfight itself is overrun by trannies. Though I will say that it gave me an opportunity to follow more crypto/gc artists and I dont fault them for trying to participate in a fun art challenge for the sake of drawing without having to worry about gendie nonsense and PC bullshit. sucks that it went down the way it did but I hope it was fun for the short window nonas were able to participate
>>2326100secret tag used by farmers was discovered by tumblr and all accounts under the tag were banned from the site.
No. 2326115
>>2326105damn, every account? that's harsh, and i'm assuming the mod team didn't even bother investigating these accounts individually and just banned them for being associated with lc
>>2326107>until some absolute cunt switched and got everyone bannedyou mean the one who reported the tag to the team was also a farmer? so it was a backstab situation instead of some random troon from tumblr lurking these threads who reported it?
>4chanfunny you mention that because i did check on the artfight thread on /ic/ and yeah people were linking profiles too, guess that no tumblr troons care or thought about 4channers during artfight
No. 2326122
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>>2326115There was a callout post on tumblr that brought light to the tag. keep in mind anyone can access the site and lurk on it, it doesnt necessarily make them farmers.
No. 2326125
>>2326109samefag, also while trying to work out who the snitch was anons started going through the accounts of sperging out about a random woman, which was a bit embarrassing.
>>2326115Every account and ones who were posting mostly farmer attacks too. I think it was definitely a lurker to be honest.
>>2326112Yeah, totally nice anons who were just playing the game going exactly by the rules are way worse than scrotes admitting to fucking up attacks on purpose.
No. 2326127
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>>2326123>not proud of myselfywnabam and the cult members you surround yourself with will eat you alive the moment they discover your identity and that you even stuck around within a 5 inch radius to an ebil
terf site no matter what your excuse is.
I hope retards that namedrop the site get whats coming for them for being pretentious fucking buffoons
No. 2326130
>>2326039Or maybe they just don't have the time to draw 40 revenges? Most people have jobs. Only neets and teens on summer break have that much free time. Anyway, from what I've seen, the big artists usually have a disclaimer to not attack them if you're expecting a revenge so if you do so anyway, that's on you.
>>2326115>i'm assuming the mod team didn't even bother investigating these accounts individuallyOf course they didn't. It was a blanket ban. Iirc, even accounts who removed the tag earlier in the month, before the callout, were banned.
No. 2326134
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>>2326127slightly ot, but bringing up that tumblr reminds me of this and how most posts on there were whinging about retarded shit and how they're not getting tons of attacks in the first week so the event sucks and is unfair yada yada yada. Great community.
No. 2326152
>>2326151I wish they gave the same energy to 4chan scrotes who intentionally grief in artfight and
openly link their accounts on the fucking site but nah its the women minding their own business doing the most harm of course.
No. 2326199
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thinking about penporo/constellor and getting sad again. her old art style was really good, what a waste
No. 2326241
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>>2326232even if they were cuntboys at least the art style was pleasing to look at. an anime artstyle that actually looked unique and instantly recognizable, i love the colors she used and now all she does is make art with the same blue and purple color palette
No. 2326242
File: 1735595965654.jpg (842.33 KB, 1280x1707, Capture.JPG)
so many great pieces, now she just draws self insert pinups with no background
No. 2326244
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>>2326241>>2326242vs her current art summary for 2024. extremely naval gazey and generic. completely lacking in the dynamic charm she once had in her older artworks. how tragic
No. 2326250
>>2326244i'm all for artists drawing nothing but their favorite oc but man you gotta admit it gets boring to look at
i joined the official
trigger studio discord years ago and people were talking about her, and how cool it would be if
trigger ever reached out to her so she could work on something like what happened to genicecream. she was mostly famous for her promare art at the time, i'm sure most promare fans back then have seen her art. i wonder how differently she would've ended up if she got to work for
trigger, her being that good of an artist when she was a teenager was crazy potential. now that she's an adult it seems like her sex drive is affecting her art too much
No. 2326278
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>>2326267she made an art vs artist page recently, I think you can come to your own conclusion
No. 2326293
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>>2326285To be fair I might've overexaggerated, it seems like the quote she made on this post is now deleted tho because I remember her posting a pic that showed her torso more
No. 2326549
>>2326099I still wonder why couldn't the mods just ignore us kek god forbid someone have different beliefs from you
and cuture too, tranny shit is american shit. seems a little offensive to impose your culture to others and ban them if they don't get it
there was a nonni who made art for me but was banned before she could send it, I wonder how her art looked like
No. 2326673
>>2326598When I was in a relationship with an
abusive moid my art skills dipped and then suddenly came back when I left. He was sucking away all my personality & sense of self because he was insecure and couldn't cope if my personality came out so maybe it's something similiar?
No. 2326815
hello nonnies i'm a 19-year-old neet and it seems like all my same-aged peers are way better than me. i have all the free time in the world, how to improve fast and quick? what are your favorite tips and tutorials?
>>2326105i kinda dodged a bullet by not participating this year, even though i said i would in the most recent art salt thread back then lol my gendie friends followed me, and i made so sure i would definitely participate! only to not post a single thing. sometimes being a lazy fuck does help.
the artfight concept is pretty nice and afaik it's the only one of its kind? i'm mixed if i really want to engage next year, in one hand i don't want to miss out but in the other, they made sure they definitely do not give a fuck about women when they didn't do anything to the 4chan scrotes that actively soured the experience.
No. 2326910
>>2326815I was in a similar position at the tail end of last year and what got me to click and start very rapidly improving was finding what I was really interested in (I like medical stuff, marine life and specific history for example) and implementing it into my art, and also finding art movements I really enjoyed the history or psychology of.
As for actual resources here's my favourites;
>George Bridgman Constructive Anatomy>Stonehouse Anatomy >Johannes Ittens Art of Colour>Wynn Kapit/Lawrence M. Elson The Anatomy Colouring Book (very hard to find the best editon online unfortunately, also more for medfags) No. 2327002
>>2326994Pick artists you like who have a strong internet presence and who draw the same things you'd like to draw (excluding those who have been active for >5 years) look at what they do and how they interact with others; How often do they post, what's their following/follower ratio, do they share other artists, partecipate in challenges, etc? Take these as a baseline, then put your own spin on it (your own personality, that is to say)
It helps also to choose artists who are on your same skill level, as of course extremely skilled artists will use platforms differently from ones who aren't as skilled, but have fun ideas and a close connection to their community.
No. 2327099
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This is dumb but I'm trying to study color and I've noticed a lot of artists will put different hue tones into shadows like picrel. Is there a word for the type of lighting with the gray-purple blocks of color in her hair's shadows? I'm also interested in how the artist made the character's skin look blue-ish against the yellow clothes and skin.
No. 2327373
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>>2327352I did reverse image search this one artist's art on google image but I don't think I tried baidu, I just did and I think this is their weibo but their gallery is also mostly gone and this image is one of them…uhh whoops
I hope copycats didn't destroy their desire to be on social media anymore, I loved their art
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>>2327373It's more about copying, and the colorpicking, etc. Many artists don't want their work heavily referenced
I fell into a deep rabbit hole kek
No. 2327398
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>>2327099>put different hue tones into shadowsIn real life a shadow will be multiple hues because the colours of the environment will constantly be bouncing off it. How artists replicate that is often alternating between warm and cold hues, that doesn't necessarily mean just shading with blue and red, with digital artists I've noticed a habit of using blue-green-purple (cool, neutral, warm).
>I'm also interested in how the artist made the character's skin look blue-ish against the yellow clothes and skinThe artist is employing simultaneous contrast (picrel)
>>2327186Mine is to start pumping out as much high quality art as I can and to do more hours p/w of study.
No. 2328370
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Kekking at this TIF(possibly terry) trying to convince us she's a moid while drawing spirou yaoi and having the girliest artstyle known to man. The fact that she posts in a site known to host actual gay men who post extremely moidish gay art like bara furries and femboys is what makes it all the more hilarious.
No. 2329096
>>2323630Yes; it's good to cycle out and take breaks from digital to trad. Ideally, even if you do predominantly digital, it helps to exercise in trad. One of the nonnas mentioned as much earlier.
I'm going deep into trad this year and expanding on my pixel art as far as digital goes. No digital rendering. Was never a huge fan of it, honestly. I still do tradigital for the sake of color tests or aesthetic goals.
Really, the point is not to deny your art moods. Lean into them. You probably need the break/challenge. It'll encourage you to look at digital more as another medium instead of an entire choice to adhere to.
No. 2329100
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How do you play with proportions? Obviously i dont mean the basic proportion guides, but rather how you break them without making them look too weird.
No. 2329117
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>>2329115Lol I feel like he'd be a stan twitter user who orbits vtubers cot sure.
No. 2329120
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>>2328370It’s her, look at her old art
Kek she draws herself like a slob
No. 2329129
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I'm new and might've fucked up and posted this somewhere where it shouldn'tve been before, so apologies in advance. I know this thread complains about BrujoAri every three seconds but I can't stand all her clones either. Near identical daria-esque artstyle, same "omg so retro 2000s XD" aesthetics. It even feels like this artist is trying to recreate the "I can't believe they used to be JoJos characters!" appeal with how their OCs look like berserk characters given alt makeovers, even the comments are pointing out the similarities. I get that "y2k" shit is big right now but at least try to recreate a different artstyle from the era instead of copying Brujo and the million other fags trying to skinwalk her.
No. 2329294
A 19 year old malding over young artists making more money from commissions than her is so damn funny. I love the sheer delulu here
No. 2329586
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>>2329129this reminds me another of artist popular with zoomers named milkkirie who has a bunch of skinwalkers too, and it drives me nuts because everyone that copies her downgrades their own art. at least with brujoari clones they learn some kind of anatomy/attention to detail.
idk if im the only one who has noticed this but im so sick of seeing these shitty shapemaxxing art styles that look lazy and retarded
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>>2329586Retarded question, but is the intention to go for the UPA art style when people "shapemaxx" their character designs? Because there's something about the way 'milkkirie' shapes the characters that seems like it's going for UPA, but just doesn't
quite land it.
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>>2329586These zoomies are all skin walking Craig McCracken, who is the Rebecca Sugar of the 90s.
No. 2329657
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>>2329600I don't think she's trying to be UPA too much, especially since her recent art is more detailed, not super detailed but now her art doesn't look so lazy.
the main weakness i see in milkkries are and her skinwalkers by extension is their lack of understanding certain fundamentals like space and proportion, as well as making designs that are just- TOO 2D and stiff. see picrel
she's been improving from that style since middle of 2024 so that's good at least
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>>2329129This is absolutely a brujo ari skinwalker, down to the characters originally being from x media
No. 2329665
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>>2329658Same anon, white haired is also referred to as 'he' are you even trying to hide it?
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>>2329129Incredibly confused as to what is causing her to crash out in this way and give these types of explanations. Going by the qrts and comments on both comics, the responses are mostly positive aside from a few people going "this is just berserk" and one person going "oh fuck off" with their friend bringing up Berserk part 2 (because of Griffith raping Casca?)
>>2329658Interesting response considering she got pissed at other people calling these Berserk characters kek
No. 2329676
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>>2329326Yep that was her kek. They only lasted a few months (not very long) and things didn't work out (my guess is that it was the long distance since Holly lives in Texas and TD lives in California). They didn't give any specifics on what happened but during the relationship, Holly "found herself" and realized that she's actually a man and is now on T. I can't help but feel that this "discovery" is just the influence from Michie and her retarded ass gendie group since only like one person in their little friend group doesn't label themselves any kind of troon or enby. And it was shortly after Michie had her emotional breakdown of realizing she's enby kek.
>>2329386 >>2329406Thanks kek I know she's a drop in the bucket compared to a lot of other artspergs but I have so much to work with from time to time because of her streams and the stupid shit she says in them. I guess I feel a little restless with it because none of her friends call her out when she's saying something retarded but even when she does realize she's saying something stupid, she will just default to "TEEHEE It's the 'tism". I swear ever since she got her diagnosis for her autism (which shouldn't have been surprising to her because of how she acts), she's been on steroids with the excuses for not having common sense and blaming it on autism.
Like I mentioned in a previous thread, once upon a time she used to not be that bad but even since she got on Twitch and made friends with retarded gendie zoomers and got obsessed with Vtubing, I feel like she really has regressed. And her art well… Anatomy fundamentals, even if she's going for a cartoony style, it still looks wonky and needs refining, not more emphasis on shading.
No. 2329700
>>2329215It's a little complicated. Scenekids main style of music that defined their scene was crunkcore (which started on MySpace) and crunkcore sounds nothing like punk. On the other hand, pop punk was also popular with the scene and that could kinda be a nod to punk but punk was never meant to be corporate or about being popular which is why during the 2000s, a lot of traditional punk rockers hated pop punk. But like other anons pointed out, DIY was also popular with scenekids what with buying their clothes from thrift stores to give that sorta of retro vibe to it with some DIY touch ups.
>>2329236I dunno anon, I was a teen during the 2000s and I was kinda in the middle and at my school, the punk kids didn't really like the scene kids. I grew up in California though so maybe location can play into this? I just remember the punk kids at my school would call scene guys "fags".
>>2329277Pretty much this. I think that the problem with these zoomers is that they "try" to get into these subcultures in an inorganic way. They hangout in places like TikTok and Pinterest and copy what they see there while not truly immersing themselves in the music. That's why a lot of the time it feels like when you see these zoomer scene/emo/goths, it feels like they're wearing a costume or playing up a character. I find that the zoomers who do feel authentic to these scenes don't tend to dress over the top and they actually display the music from these respective genres that they like and it just ends up feeling much more natural.
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>>2329129>>2329670it's just beserek yaoi
griffith was also hyper-feminized, but this is a straight-up female design No. 2329811
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>>2329334>>2329124Her new persona after she detransed. It’s everywhere on that profile kek
No. 2329827
>>2329129This person is besties with that Griffith fakeboi farmer who got exposed in
>>>/snow/2068911 and
>>>/g/450226 kek
No. 2329900
>>2329751>>2329883I was never a fan of Holly personally but I agree that it's sad to see how far she's fallen. I didn't hear about the hallucinations because I only ever got exposed to her whenever she would be on Michie's streams and got a little insight about her life through there. She hasn't been on her streams in quite some time though and Michie mentions in the video posted that she had a really bad fallout with a close friend and I'm wondering if that person was Holly.
Anyway With all the mental health issues Holly has, it's no wonder why being around Michie and the others have only exacerbated it because as I said in the other post, their group enables retardation. Does Holly still live with her mother and sister? I wonder if they've been actively trying to help her. Not that it's their obligation since Holly is an adult but it seemed like they had a good relationship so they'd more than likely be helping her keep up on herself.
No. 2330381
>>2329817I like watercolour, it is very finicky and only looks good on certain types of paper and it's better for larger paintings (at least >A4, ime 1x1m was the sweet spot) where it won't run as much or muddy details.
As for mediums I hate, I loathe acrylics and pastels, for acrylic I just hate the way the paint feels to use and I don't particularly like how I'm painting with plastic, pastels just fucking get everywhere and look bad.
No. 2330590
>>2328380I'm the same way, to a point. There are nice OCs out there, but most aren't worth the level of response they get. I've come to learn that a lot of those "OOH SO HECKING
VALID" compliments to the ugliest OCs are from other artists expecting reciprocation. It doesn't feel genuine.
On the other hand, OCs that serve to tell a real story, carry a theme, or just look cool/ show off their technical skill make me follow the artist.
>>2329817Oil. I don't hate-hate it, but I think even if I had the space and means to take it up, I wouldn't. I know there are water soluble oils, but the effects I want are achievable through watercolor and traditional gouaches.
I also don't like quill nibs. I love the outcome, but I hate the feel of the metal against the paper. Brush was harder to learn, but I love it as an alternative.
>>2329937> I hate watercolor too because I have no patience waiting for layers to dry and have a tendency to overwork the paper.Heat gun or a hair dryer is the secret for the glazing method.
No. 2330802
>>2329700> so maybe location can play into this? Imo that's my experience of being a terminally online teenager who moved around and straddled a lot of alternative scenes.
The younger people online trying to replicate these past youth trends can't get it spot on because they're coming from an American flanderized Pinterest soup whereas the actual movements weren't that clean cut and globally universal, and not everything was online, and not everything that ended up online stayed online. Blanket statements like "punks hate scene kids" can't work because there was no singular spokesperson for those movements, it just depended whether or not your local area had enough alternative teenagers around to start hating each others factions, or whether they had to band together. It's weird how the younger artists decide they understand everything because they watch a TikTok video.
I imagine scene kids being called fags was a universal truth, but also they said it so much themselves about others kek
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Just saw this ad from Fiverr to promote their ai services, it has seemed to spark a bit of controversy
No. 2330911
>>2330879Kek. Unfortunately it’s true. Employers don’t care that you
didn’t use AI either, they just care about their bottom line. The ad was amusing but I really don’t like where things are going with creative industries.
No. 2330934
>>2330920I hate the proliferation of ai on Pinterest and the Internet as well. Whenever I search up something in Google images, the results get clogged with ai. The option to leave out keywords doesn't work anymore, I could tell Google to leave out options with "midjourney" "ai" but aislop still finds a way to leak to the surface
>>2330915I wouldn't be surprised if ai services get completely locked by paywalls in the future.
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>>2317214Saged because I'm super late and didn't get a chance to watch the VOD until now but jesus christ, Juby is unhinged.
>says the most fitting punishment for people like genice is to "destroy their careers from the inside out" by spreading what they did in order to get them blacklisted>says it gives her a "small little thrill of catharsis" and that she's telling everyone that is "relevant" (aka industry professionals) about what genice did>"if you know people who deserve to know about genice, please tell them. i want this information out there. i want people to gossip about genice. it's what she deserves.">claims to not be a vengeful person but instantly contradicts herself by saying that she "takes joy in seeing the results of it" because she's been victimized too much, claims that she's going against her nature in order to watch people burn>will name-drop genicecream on twitch but not on twitter/bluesky because she "doesn't have the hp" and needs a few months to recover (note that she was fine with calling out rianbowart on social media but not genice)>is currently waiting for genice to come out of hibernation, compares it to playing chess and watching her opponent's moves>"i'm just waiting for genice to do something so stupid, that i have to say something and destroy her whole career">"we'll see what happens. all she needs to do is give me one reason and i think she knows it. she probably assumed that i wasn't going to say anything but i did and it messed up her plans. i'm all about messing up people's nefarious plans">originally helped genice workshop ideas for her project and shared stuff about a witch's cross, which was how genice "stole" from her>according to juby, genice shared stuff on her private twitter that juby felt was too similar to a witch's cross>juby wanted genice to confess on her private twitter that the stuff she posted wasn't her original idea and genice refused>juby claimed that she confronted genice three times about stuff she stole from juby>claims that genice based her main character on juby. according to her, genice said that she "started to understand athena's character better after i talked with you and learned more about you">when juby pointed out that "that's my stuff", genice told her she was jealous and controlling>in the end, genice gave juby a 10 page manifesto about how she doesn't have to answer to juby because she only answers to god and puts her sins in god's hands, and doesn't need to apologize to juby because she only has to apologize to god>juby claims that she isn't worried that genice will "somehow outperform my story, it's just the principle of it. to violate a friend, having been given the complete picture and context of her suffering, her experiences, and the body of works that came from that. to just desecrate that, willfully, consciously, and then get mad when you friend tells you to stop">genice wanted juby to take back the time she called her self-deluded, juby refused "because it's true">claims that genice "was really neurotic for some reason" and that she had no trauma/a really good childhood, says that genice was probably like that because she wasn't punished enough and needed to be punished>re: rianbowart: was basically saying that she doesn't think rian can actually draw, says that she should just be a colorist and color coloring books, thinks her art is tasteless because she just paints rainbows over everything, calls her a bimbo that probably can't draw shit except for faces and traces everything else>repeatedly called genicecream and rianbowart narcissists, psychopaths, sociopaths, parasites, "i don't think they're actually human", soulless bots, cancer, attention whores, cockroachesEven if in the end it turns out that Juby was justified, she just comes across as an incredibly vindictive and spiteful bpdemon. Like, I'll admit that Genice giving her a 10 page manifesto is super weird but it doesn't justify Juby's continuous seething. I don't understand how her viewers listened to her rant over and over about Genice for SEVEN HOURS and think she's normal and 100% in the right.
No. 2330992
>>2330961all this over some unoriginal shitty ocs what the fuck
>I was sooo nicekek
No. 2331039
>>2330961I hope eden's gate gets turned into another studio
trigger project in retribution for all this kek what a horrific bpdemon
No. 2331104
>>2331061not to mention she has her previous broadcasts up as well to watch whenever. I guess she expected people not willing to shift through 8 hours of content to pick out a VOD, too bad it makes our job easier when shes schizobabbling consecutively for those 8 hours and doesn't know when to shut up.
Not really the most "calculative and cunning gamemaster" when it shes the only one publically chimping out and calling everyone a schizo narc parasite.
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>>2330879AI always reminds me of the surrealist epic galaxy photoshop edits that were really popular. I guess normies really don't give a fuck?
No. 2331351
>>2330934>I wouldn't be surprised if ai services get completely locked by paywalls in the future.That is the eventual goal, and you can tell. Midjourney's monthly price went up by a lot very quickly. From $9 to $24 for the lowest tier, IIRC.
And, apparently, some GPUs come with AI (I have no idea how that works; I'm guessing it's an optional download with the driver). You might see that come with limitations and buy-in premiums for people who don't want to do their own setup (thus making the lazier even more lazy).
Every aspect of AI that you can think of that could be monetized, will be monetized.
No. 2331358
>>2330961I don't even need to see evidence to feel bad for genice. Some fucking twenty-something year old kid (yes, people in their twenties are child aged adults, your twenties are for being retarded and figuring yourself out) supposedly "copying" someone's ocs that YOU HELPED MAKE in the first place doesn't deserve a total destruction of one's career. It really fucking doesn't. "oh but she might plagiarize official work later!" industry professionals take inspiration from each other all the time, not to mention we haven't seen this supposed plagiarism and don't know how far it extends. It's also very different to copy art vs copy story materials. I want someone to call out Juby so fucking bad because this isn't fair to genice, no matter how priviliged genice is, getting into studio
trigger isn't easy, it's full of famous industry veterans, she must've worked really hard.
No. 2331530
>>2331358juby also spergs out routinely and has accused so many people of “copying” her so many times i think she’s just one of those people. i’ve noticed some artists are way too defensive over claiming something is “copied” or “too similar” maybe because the alternative is realizing not everything you come up with is 100% totally unique and new, and that would require humility, sanity, and self reflection that juby clearly doesn’t have. i think she’s probably some kind of narcissist bpdemon or something like that and genuinely thinks she’s the
victim but i’d bet money if we could actually compare a witch’s cross and edensgate they would be just mildly similar at best or something
No. 2331701
>>2331530Wait really? Who has she also accused? I haven't heard of her until the Genice incident. Didn't realize this is a pattern of behavior for her, but that explains a lot.
>>2331358What's messed up is that they met when Genice was only 18. I think Genice showed her some of her art at a convention or something, and that's how they became friends. They've known each other for almost a decade now and Juby has met Genice's family and even been over at their house. It's so wild to me that Juby is nuking a 10 year friendship/mentorship over something as stupid as this, while also trying to permanently ruin Genice's art career
>>2331314She's definitely not wrong about rianbowart but her incessant sperging about Genice doesn't help her case. She's like the boy who cried wolf, if the boy went on an hours-long schizo rant
No. 2331869
>>2330961Her beef with Genice is pure jealousy, all of this started only after she got to work with
Trigger right? It's sad to see someone in their mid 30s with this level of envy and immaturity, especially against a friend.
No. 2332124
>>2331358I don't even know how Juby plans to destroy her. She's making it sound like she has screenshots of Genice admitting that she took inspiration from Juby but no one is going to give a fuck about that. If she made a callout post it might get a few thousand likes (if the first part is clickbaity enough) but callouts have never mattered. A big one might lead to a person losing like 2% of their following but people just don't care about someone's personal issues as long as they can continue to see the slop they signed up for. It only starts to impact an artist if they pay attention to it publically. If you start sperging about drama all day you'll lose followers because that's not what people care to see. Even getting labelled as a pedo the way astrocatie or kauchama were didn't really end their careers.
>>2331701One example from an older thread, another situation in which Juby ended a long friendship over some disagreement and proceeded to slander the person
>>905827 No. 2332170
>>2329998I was obsessed with strawberry marshmallow as a 12 year old. I thought the art was so cute and the characters were so funny and "just like me". I read them again as an adult and it hurt
>>2329900Does anyone know Holly's socials now? I really want to see if she's improved or just drawing the same stiff broken looking figures
>>2330934For google images, you can search like this "cute cats before:2021" you'll be missing out on more recent pictures but no AI shit (in the main search at least)
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>>2332181But it won't matter if genice's comic is indie, no? And Juby also had that marvel spergout back when she got to do one cover for them, I doubt anyone in professional circles values her opinions much.
>>2332170https://linktr.ee/hcbrownartHer art hasn't gotten better but she recently posted about getting a part time job and going back to school so she'll probably be fine.
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Good lord I detest this image kek. It's repulsive (pink one is a tim btw) but at the same time, I'm actually really into the rendering and sense of shape/form on this. I typically am not a fan of this artist's content and ignore it, but recently I'm finding it more revolting. I pray she peaks and develops a better sense of taste someday.
No. 2332836
>>2332790>Just start rendering like herNo kek, just because I think her rendering looks good doesn't mean I want to emulate it
>make something you want to seeAlready doing that and in a style I enjoy drawing. Sometimes hating on an artist is just hating, not looking for a "solution" (which isn't really that helpful, by that logic all the nonas who love brujoari's art but hate the content should just go mimick her style lmao)
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>>2330961>in the end, genice gave juby a 10 page manifesto about how she doesn't have to answer to juby because she only answers to god and puts her sins in god's hands, and doesn't need to apologize to juby because she only has to apologize to godI don't see why Juby doesn't just post this alleged manifesto if she wants to destroy Genice so bad without overexerting herself, unless she's exaggerating/twisting details out-of-context to make Genice sound like a religious nutcase
Also, if Juby ever goes anywhere with her project, it may be notable to pay attention to the part where her self-insert "suffers endless abuse from friends and foes alike". She's already said the story was inspired by her own journey with depression and disability, so I wouldn't be surprised she based anything off fallouts with "
abusive friends" (imagine if she bases a character off Genice kek)
No. 2333139
>>2330961>>2331530>>2331869>>2332972Seriously Juby is fucking nuts and the art lolcow scene has been pretty dry of milk. I second the
nonnie about Juby getting her own thread. I wouldn't mind reading more about this retard and her existential crisis over people with similar projects. Honestly even IF genice was copying Juby it would be obvious and make Juby's work stand out more as the original so the sperg out is unnecessary. Like imagine Twilight's author sperging about the vampire fad it brought on in YA back in like 07. Stupid AF.
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I’m a juror for an artist alley of one of the largest fighting game tournaments in the USA and we just reviewed an application from a fairly well known artist (picrel) that said “I prefer a table in front of the entrance since I am a cosplayer bringing hype to your event!”
KEKKKKKKKKKK Nobody is coming to this tournament to see your aliexpress polyester costumes you narcissistic bitch lol
No. 2333445
>>2332972>I don't see why Juby doesn't just post this alleged manifestoI'm watching through another of Juby's VODs and she said she's purposefully saving the manifesto for if/when Genice does something stupid
>>2333139I'd be down for a Juby thread but I'm not familiar enough with her history to write the thread OP. I noticed that Genice is posting again on Bluesky, so we could be getting some more milk soon
No. 2333503
>>2333388I think she's pretty and her art/cosplay isn't bad but holy fuck the entitlement is crazy, I'd decline her based on that alone because someone with a poor attitude is hell to do business with.
>>2333489Why did a new one never get made? That's odd to me. There's so many artists that are milky to talk about that don't have enough milk for a whole thread.
No. 2333580
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>>2333503I think her request usually works at other tournaments. I frequent the other ones a lot and she is always in the main walkway/near the entrance. I wouldn’t have a problem with such a request if she was actually crafting the cosplays, but they are all 100% bought from China or commissioned.
I’m pretty outnumbered by the other jurors in my skepticism of her. She also regularly tries to sow distrust for the other community artists, my guess is because she feels threatened by competition. She gossips about them with TOs and constantly tweets that she’s being persecuted by other artists. There is no excuse to be publicly tweeting this unprofessionally about your coworkers. Talk to them about this shit privately or name names and post proof instead of airing out your bpd manic episode to your fans.
No. 2333589
>>2333580>that imageI just can't understand how
victim mentality self centered people are actually able to get their way with people. They are so obviously jerking their own egos and throwing other people under the bus for their own benefit. Considering how actual nice people usually get thrown under the bus, I have to wonder if the "other peoples light shows off your darkness" thing is true? People like this give me such rancid vibes though, I'm sorry nobody else is trusting your judgement nonna. It's so obvious to me what she is, her being the only artist who will do that is so far from the truth, it's just that a lot of other artists are really shy.
No. 2333624
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>>2333589No need to feel sorry for me, she doesnt really affect me at all. I am a little worried about her growing influence though. I’ve noticed for years that she does sometimes heavily reference other community artists’ work for her merch, which hurts the already deteriorating integrity of artist alley.
Idk if anybody here remembers shunao but she is down that path imo. Just a few months ago she falsely accused somebody of sexually victimizing her as part of a bandwagon (the accused has since been proven innocent). Unlike shunao, everybody just let her get away with it for some reason. The tweets are even still up even though its been widely agreed upon that this person got hunted for basically no reason. I guess if you cosplay and make acrylic garbage that panders to a community you can get away with anything.
No. 2334080
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Is it worth getting on tiktok now to post art content, or is it really going to get banned and is therefor a big waste of effort and time?
I feel like I should post on more platforms for a bigger reach but idk where
No. 2334409
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Does anybody else watch Dutchess Celestia? I found her as she was starting out YT and stuck around because I think she's quite mature in her takes. Most art youtubers disappoint me, but she's pretty consistent
No. 2334513
>>2334328There are many ways to go about it and I’ve often felt the same. But the more you study, your more your anxiety will fade.
My personal method is focusing on whatever I ‘need’ at a given time. For example, I was doing an illustration and I realized I hated the way I was doing hands, and I was struggling so hard. I then set a goal for myself: spend 20 hours drawing hands. While practicing hands, I also felt like the rest of my anatomy needed brushing up, so I set similar study goals.
I was doing some background painting for a film project, and I felt like I hated how I was doing it. I spent 30 hours doing speed paints, and it helped me a lot. While doing those speed paints, I also realized I wasn’t confident on my building/perspective skills, so I worked in that. I’m really happy with where my regular studying got me now.
It can seem so overwhelming, but you’ve got your whole life to improve! What matters is working on things one at a time, and not giving up. Focus on one specific thing you are most insecure about first, and then reapply the method for the rest. Ganbatte Nonna-san!
No. 2334747
>>2334409Her videos fall under that "Artist to Commentary Channel" because blown out drama gets them more traffic. Good on her. Not my thing. Seems like it's for a younger crowd.
Youtube kept recommending me one of her videos for a whole year, so I had to tell it to stop suggesting her channel. I don't even remember what the video was, but I have an aversion to artwork that flips eyes on 3/4th views.
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Well, well, look who's on instagram
No. 2334818
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Anyone know where to find pdfs of the Sketching from the Imagination series online? I’ve checked libgen, archive.org etc and only found the “Characters” book, they seem much harder to track down than other art books which is a shame because I find the artist interviews extremely useful and the sketchbook pages never fail to inspire me. I’m hoping a nonna who’s a bit more tech savvy/better at tracking down pdfs can help me.
No. 2334831
>>2334818I was checking here
https://fmhy.net/readingpiracyguide for you but got tired kek. Like you said, it looks like the Characters one is the only option. You can keep going if you want, I stopped at the Reading CSE.
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No. 2335040
>>2335030>gnc>trans manAre they serious? Just say you're a woman with quirks but tifs would rather live in lalaland where a full on woman is actually a man. I also love their insistence that these two are
valid but then cries
victim about it.
No. 2335097
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>>2334409On the topic of YT art channels, I've always thought LavenderTowne's technical skills, art style, and redesigns are terrible. Her channel is very successful though so good for her.
No. 2335616
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I know its retarded but it pisses me off Miss Jisu was taught by KJG yet all she draws is mediocre generic pretty girls. Why couldnt she steal the good things from him? like his proclivity for drawing vehicles, machinery and insane perspective. Instead she just latched onto his worst trait. At least there are a few kjg clones out there that actually draw like him but without the cum.
No. 2335962
>>2335062>She seems concerned about having 'the right opinion'Exactly what I feel. She does that thing I notice quite a few female commentary channels (not just art related) do where they'll feel the need to force a billion unnecessary disclaimers across the video. Hypothetical example, if she made a video about art tropes she doesn't like and one of those was pure black shading she would spend at least three whole minutes going on like "usually it's advised to not use pure black shading, but now, I'm not saying nobody should ever use it. Some people like using it in their style, and that's super
valid. This is up to personal taste, and it's possible to make it work. I would never tell you not to use it, because people that judge others' style are
toxic assholes and I would never want to be like that. You're so
valid and I support you and your pure black shading". I mostly only watch her "[x] art tropes I hate", and they're particularly bad in that because she always feels the need to go on a tangent about how it's ok if you like these things because cringe culture is bad at least two or three times per video. Her specific opinions don't even matter to me, it's the redundantly eggshelly way of talking that annoys me.
Completely OT but she reminds of a video from a female commentary channel I once saw going over a shock/gore content iceberg, where she not only gave a full disclaimer at the beginning (understandable) but then on almost every single topic she kept going on weirdly sanctimonious diatribes/disclaimers, eg: if a cartel video was mentioned she would just spend five minutes telling the viewer that she doesn't wanna talk about it because cartels are bad and killing people is bad and cartel members are bad people because they kill people, which is bad, as if the viewer was a 5yo.>>2334800>>2334858If I didn't know her, that "nigganese" would make me assume this is a troll pretending to be her. Did she mention making an insta on her twitter?
>>2335097>Nonny doesn't remember when every LT video would get immedeatly posted in these threads for nonnas to throw salt atBut yea, from what I recall most nonnas used to agree with your opinion, ie: she has bizarrely bad fundamentals for someone with an art degree, she clearly churns out bad unpolished art so she can keep posting videos, and she's the poster child of muh-artstyle based stagnation, but she seems pretty normie so you can't really be much more than mildly annoyed at her for managing to game the system and successfully chasing the bag. Also, her hatedom is absolutely deranged.
No. 2335964
>>2335097I used to watch LavenderTowne a lot back around like 2016-2017 but I eventually stopped watching and in hindsight I don't know why I ever found her style appealing because nowadays I find it very tacky and an eyesore. I deep down always thought this but I also thought her work was cute in a way but that view has since went away and now I just can't look at it. It's definitely unique in the sense that you when you see it, you know it's a LavenderTowne piece but is it good? Eh… Debatable.
I think the reason why she was so successful was because she was one of the first who really took the speedpaint commentary style and uploaded frequently with lots of stories to share, she was great to put on for background noise and at the time, there weren't a ton of a speedpaint commentary artists who were uploading at such a frequency like she was. So I think her success was justifiably earned even if her style isn't the most appealing.
No. 2335972
>>2335118I've seen a few of her videos and I understand your frustration as I've noticed how she is overdramatizes certain situations when it involves minors. It probably doesn't help that I'm in my 30s and have been on YouTube since the early days including the earlier days of art commentary back when it was called "DeviantART ranting" and the scenarios back then were just petty internet drama and then it all escalated to predators and grooming and all that and it got so draining to hear about. So then you have people like JuniDrwz who say the shit that you mentioned like how minors drawing porn of other minors is CSEM when it just isn't and all it is is inappropriate and more than likely a response to our porn saturated culture that has minors finding it on social media like Twitter (and before then Tumblr) and how it's so easily accessible for kids these days than it was for a lot of us who grew up in the late 90s and 2000s.
I think it's because she's like 18 or 19 and wants to feel self-righteous in calling stuff out but doesn't realize that this is not one of them.
No. 2335980
>>2334409I sometimes watch her content and I've been aware of her since her earlier days as well.The topics she comes up with are a bit sophomore to me but I think that's because I'm also a lot older than her and some of the topics she talks about are some I've already engaged with in the past and the few times I tried to give a listen to her on topics I'm already familiar with, I just didn't get any useful or frankly interesting insight from her so I stopped watching them. Her art style leaves a lot to be desired but it probably doesn't help that I'm not a big fan of traditional full-on anime styles and hers just looks super generic and bland, nothing really stands out so her videos at the time were mostly just background noise. I agree with
>>2335062 with how it seems like she tries to say the right opinion and it comes off as insecure and disingenuous which probably explains why sometimes when she's commentating, she sounds like she's on the verge of crying, she has a very strange quality to her voice that always made me feel like she was holding back tears or something.
Overall she's an inoffensive channel at best but not one I'm all that into.
No. 2335993
>>2335962>You.Are.ValidAnon you totally nailed another aspect of what I really loathe about Duchess' content, her whole "it's okay, you're
VALID" BS that she always resorts to when she's talking about something that she doesn't like. Like girl just shut up, it's okay to have things you don't like and you don't need to go on a 3 minute tangent trying to soften up those who may not agree with you, that is what the comments are for. When in the middle of a video, no one wants to sit around and hear you try to weasel your way out of potential counter feedback with pointless fluff and it just makes you look like you lack a backbone with your own opinions.
This is not to say you have to be a jerk when sharing why you don't like something but for the love of god, stop with the redundant sanctimonious filler.
No. 2336119
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I'm broke so I have to start up a side-hustle on art.
Have nonnas here ever been "cancelled", even on a small scale of one person screeching at you? If so, how did you handle it? I think ignoring/blocking is the effective solution, but I'm not exactly sure on how much the landscape has changed compared to ~2014 and it seems more intimidating than before if I'm being honest.
My biggest fear is if I get unlucky and a schizo fakes screenshots and tries to ruin my life or something like that.
No. 2336458
>>2336119i got cancelled once for calling a tranny a she when she went by he/him now,
fuck all happened. after a couple weeks of angry DM's my life continued like usual
dont associate with retards in the first place and your audience wont have any overlap with them
No. 2336512
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not really art salt but more of an art appreciation; artists like @U4Lo6 restore faith in me that people in the modern day are capable of drawing like the old masters and that the talents are not lost to time. picrel is fanart for a dc comic
No. 2336532
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>>2336512>people in the modern day are capable of drawing like the old mastersThe art is nice but that’s a reach kek. It just seems like she looked at classical paintings and was inspired to make capeshit yaoi in photoshop.
No. 2336545
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>>2336512>>2336532god bless chinese fujos for bishifying even the ugliest of male characters
No. 2336548
>>2336119people tried calling me a pedophile for things that happened a decade ago when i was 16 yet the world kept spinning
>>2336458 this anon is right, so long as you don't associate with the usual suspects you'll be fine and things will keep going eventually. you'll find your audience. there are people who literally dated minors in their twenties who got to keep their careers somehow
No. 2336554
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>>2336521That's not a new thing though. picrel is Alex Ross' work for DC. Sometimes capeshit comics will have the most stunningly beautiful art for absolutely no reason, then in the next breath it will be some bullshit.
No. 2336589
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I feel like the biggest difference between online styles between eastern and western artists is how a lot of eastern artists prefer portraying idealized subjects and many western artists are taught to portray less idealized subjects. I also feel like this has impacted how a lot of retards act online, like how many weebs can't stomach anything less than bishies in their games or movies and how western fandoms think it's a form of activism to always draw a minority as some ugly animal. I just think it's neat to notice.
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>>2336589>ugly animalMy mind went to picrel
No. 2336625
>>2336512If you want to see art done like the masters just look at the Russian and Chinese art schools and anything that comes out of an ARC affiliated atelier, artists with that type of skill and style are churned out every year but it just isn't very popular in the western online art world because it's old fashioned and not conducive to the cult of celebrity artist
Forgive me for sounding jaded but the only thing standing between most artists and the skills of the masters is having rich parents to hothouse you in the right art school
No. 2336639
>>2336592Now that you mention, people who love drawing fictional characters as extremely ugly only do it to women too. If it's men, they draw them super handsome, at most they'll draw old men yaoi. Maybe it's in protest to beauty standards for women, but these fuckers ALWAYS draw these characters as so much uglier than any of these women irl actually are. They'll go "and why do you think these features are ugly, hmmmm?" when it's literally that they're depicting them ugly on purpose. The women they're trying to give "representation to" are actually just fat with a plain face but they make them look like goblins and call it "
POC features".
No. 2336670
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while i do like the ai pic, the quote tweet guy is genuinely retarded. thoughts?
No. 2336802
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>>2336782Ngl I'm whatever about anime and shit but I've grown to absolutely despise the schoolgirl outfit and every damn thing that tries to make it deep/spooky/symbolic/edgy/fashion/whatever the fuck. It's been done thousands and thousands of times and it's all shallow as shit.
No. 2336842
This indie cartoon mentioned in previous threads is nearing completion of its pilot apparently. It has 52 kingdoms (including names like Fabrication, Particle and Intuition lmao) and each kingdom represents a specific culture. I feel like this sort of "diversitymaxxing" behaviour is common among artists these days, which I guess has its pros and cons. But honestly can you even consider it representation if said character shows up for 10 seconds because there are 100 other characters to compete with for screen time? Imo I feel like less is more so you can explore each culture in depth. Maybe this sort of stuff will actually help boost the cartoon's popularity once it comes out, judging by the comments full of kids begging for their own countries' rep
Also the character designs are shit and don't do a good job representing different countries imo
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>>2336782>>2336802Women are far better at capturing that feeling of melancholy with adult men, moids just can't feel anything without attaching coom to it.
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>>2336873>Middle schoolsAh. So it's even worse than I thought.
No. 2336982
>>2336842I don't like this kind of world building because you can't really get lost in it. It's "Germany" "Turkey" "Mexico" not whatever fantasy world they have.
but it's whatever I guess, it's not that serious yeah the character designs aren't good and lacks creativity but it's not that different from a "cultures book" for kids.
But i still hope they do well, rooting for indie cartoons even if they're cringe inducing.
No. 2336994
>>2336119"Any pr is good pr" maxx
I think people kind of don't care?
I lost count at all the artists accused of racism for sticking with a colour palette.
I think the landscape has calmed down because there are so many people to point fingers at. It's recognised as unhinged online behaviour. But best tactic is to always ignore ignore ignore.
Like
>>2336368 said you're not that big anyway so why care? Unless you're like Loish and have been around for 10 years and your whole brand revolves around progressivism then no one cares
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is this really an issue for some people?
No. 2337080
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>>2337069>>2337061Reminds me of that Jayce or whatever TIF, takes me back. Nonstop sperging about retarded shit and the occasional rare shitty ms paint scribble (picrel is her's I'm fairly certain), all while demanding to be known as an artist rather than the instigator of every art drama on Twitter and Tumblr for a good while. Those were some sunny days.
No. 2337130
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Wanted to find out more about the art preferences of the nonnies itt, so post work from your favorite artists!
No. 2337151
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>>2337061This is why I miss tumblr + twitter is the shittiest platform to host art.
tumblr
>go on an artist's page and click the tags/fandom you specifically want>can easily discover new artist in the search tags of searching your favorite media>block functions actually workmeanwhile twitter
>artists either have to optimize their posts by limiting shit or force viewers to slog through irrelevant shit just to get the one image from one fandom they want>searching favorite characters (especially in japanese) just gives you either announcements (with zero new art) or cringe LARP accounts>blocking tags is nearly impossible because nobody uses them lmfao good luckThis is why I get peeved when artists create shit like: "twitter but for artists!" MOTHERFUCKER CREATE ANOTHER TUMBLR
No. 2337159
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>>2337130outing myself as a weeb but Kira Imai
No. 2337164
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>>2337130I'm pretty normie with my art likes but I really enjoy Keiko Fukuyama's artwork especially her pokemon stuff.
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>>2337130>>2337169Wow, magnagallina/chickenwithtie/rottenchicken is such a blast from the past. I used to have mutual friends with her as a teenaged themlet and remember when people tried to run her off of Tumblr for terfism, kek.
The last time I checked in on her she was making weird scrotey porn of Aztec chiefs and blonde white missionary women under the name popthesnowman (which she seems to have wiped from the internet since) and whining about how ugly modern Western infrastructure is compared to muh Roman Empire. I thought she was a lesbian for the longest time, but the idea that she came under the influence of a moid makes sense looking at what she's been up to in recent years. I always liked her art style, what happened?
No. 2337258
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>>2337169>Isn’t her boyfriend some alt right artist or somethingHe is? I've only seen his art once or twice, I never bothered with looking through his page until now, his wife's work is more interesting
>>2337233Not surprised that she makes porn, perhaps she wiped the account to sanitize her image? Iirc she's works for a video game
No. 2337413
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>>2337130for modern artists I enjoy the works of Diesel2b
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>>2337130forever seething over the fact ill never get a physical copy of her comic
No. 2337493
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>>2337130I am going to get shit on for this, but kjg is my absolute favourite. I also like claude wiesbuch, juan jimenez and Carl Spitzweg
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>>2337130Nightcrow(ing) is a recent favorite of mine. I'm indifferent to her (?) furry-adjacent stuff but her Computationalism series is gorgeous, I'd like to get framed prints of it soon.
No. 2337983
>>2337976problem is that you will never feel good enough in the moment. comparison is the thief of joy and you will certainly feel it as you draw and draw.
the only way out is to wait and see your artwork with new eyes. It'll go from "absolutely horrible horrific" to "its not that bad after all"
No. 2338170
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Does anyone know where can i pirate daz3d models? or where can i find a 3D posing app that allows me to pose skeletons?
No. 2338180
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i keep seeing these poses in pinterest when looking for pose ideas, does anynonna know where are they from? i like what ive seen. alternatives would be nice too.
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>>2336592>BakiWhy did you made me remember this pic?
No. 2338211
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>>2338180It's called 'キャラクターをつくろう! 少女イラスト見本帖 制服コレクション編'. Unfortunately there is no official English translation so you have to do it yourself or try to guess what the book is saying
No. 2338228
>>2338012Sorry to say it but you will never be ‘good’. I don’t know how old you are but I assume older than 18, and you’re not good already? Girl I’m sorry but you’re cooked. There are literally thousands of people younger than you who are already way better at art than you are or ever will be.
Just focus on yourself, your journey. As long as you’re better than the day before, as long as you have something to say, that’s all that matters.
No. 2338250
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>>2338245hopefuel, thank you. my new year resolution is to catch up after wasting the majority of my teens. i've been drawing almost daily ever since the year started and i'm starting classes soon, we may be barack…
>>2338211i found a book from 2005 in english with the same-ish poses in the internet archive:
https://archive.org/details/letsdrawmangabod0000ozaw/mode/1uphave any other nonas tried this book before? do you recommend taking poses from books like this one?
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>>2338238I agree nona, I don't know how AYRT got that out you clearly saying you want to grind to get good. Different people have different goals in their art and different ways to get satisfaction from it, I love to grind and do studies day in day out because I want to be a great and technically skilled artist. I have more goals and plans than that but it's the main thing that keeps the fire going for me.
>>2338228>I don’t know how old you are but I assume older than 18, and you’re not good already? Girl I’m sorry but you’re cooked.Oh shush, you talk like someone born in 2004-2007. Being able to make art is a technical skill at its core, all you have to do is train it efficiently. Same for the theory side of things, you just need to read about and look at art. You don't lose all your neuroplasticity and get dementia the instant you turn 18. All the amazing young artists either have enough time on their hands to put the work into it, come from a well off arty family, or have been emotionally and sometimes even physically abused (corporeal punishment) to make art better than you (aka Russian and Chinese art school students). The similarity between all of these is time and effort, being a child has nothing to do with it and so many of these young artists end up plateauing or even degrading over time.
No. 2338312
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>>2338281nta but horrible examples considering his lack of skill. He's the ancient version ''its muh style!!!''
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>>2338298Why are you posting modern artist scammers to prove your point? anyone can open ms paint and do what carmen herrera does regardless of age. Pic rel is a better example because it actually shows skill.
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>>2338312Still made some cool stuff
No. 2338348
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>>2338312NTA and I hate him as much as any anon but the "muh style" excuse actually does work for him as the Impressionism movement was trying to be abstract and experimental. If you look at his early work and his portraits when he was still doing Realism you'd see he does have skill (not shown properly here due to crunchy artifacts). Are you going to say Monet was a shit artist because he made Weeping Willow (1922)?
No. 2338386
File: 1736322246616.webp (758.57 KB, 900x1200, HERR870002_1.webp)
>>2338365It is when we are talking about people losing their minds for picking up art too late. Anyone can do pic rel in 3 microseconds, but getting good at the fundamentals takes years. That's why its retarded to give van gogh as an example and not an actually skilled artist. I find van gogh ugly and overrated, the movie about him was great though.
No. 2338443
>>2338170did you try googling it and scrolling down?
Not sure how accurate it would actually be though.
No. 2338491
File: 1736335430359.jpg (657.29 KB, 2003x2403, 8272.jpg)
Something I’ve been finding concerning is people obviously inexperienced in art falsely accusing artists of using AI over details that aren’t even that weird.
No. 2338810
File: 1736356095097.jpg (28.06 KB, 400x560, bf8e358142ff076ce9b498fd7b90e6…)
mfw I'm drawing fanart of a character and looking up references and someone else's fanart mogs mine in every way
No. 2338901
>>2338739can't help but feel the same, it's basically just engagement baiting
>>2338525>I'm really dreading the possibility of timelapses becoming expected of posting art on the internet now.Same, I get "stage fright" or whatever and can't even draw when I know someone is looking and I find it embarrassing if it shows how many times I started something over or when I used tools to resize my wonky anatomy… basically I'd have to get everything perfect on the first try to not feel too embarrassed to post it.
No. 2338944
>>2338174I draw because it makes me happy even when I wanna toss my tablet across the room.
>>2338196Stop comparing yourself to other people, you can get better later. Focus on what you want instead of what others want. Then, how you feel about yourself will improve. It will be long but I'm rooting for you nonna.
No. 2339036
File: 1736366926917.jpg (1.27 MB, 3507x2477, Bathing Women theo van rysselb…)
>>2337130picrel
>>2337061yes, it's why i made a rule for myself to never post any images other than my art. if i really have to post something, i'll delete it later so it doesn't shit up my media tab
No. 2339039
File: 1736367133450.jpg (69.74 KB, 724x470, 1000018856.jpg)
>>2337130The fact that this watercolor is crazy to me
No. 2339082
>>2337959Unironically tiktok
>Can just post whatever you want>Don't need to post fanart>so many trends just slap your work on it>Reel/video or carousel, either work. >Don't even need to post full proper version if you're worried about people stealing your work>wips, speedpaint, finished work, screenshot with the app/software visible, a picture that shows your tablet + workspace + art, anything goes.>Slap on trendy music for a guaranteed hit>Jump on the hundreds of micro trendsYou just need to put a bit more effort if you want to form a community but it's been the most worth it platform for me.
On twitter I feel like I'm just talking to myself. Tumblr has only been good for fanart.
No. 2339296
File: 1736380074435.jpg (578.93 KB, 1080x1615, 378282.jpg)
Decided to snoop sakurablossompxl's account to see if she was still posting AI images (she is, plus sketches that don't reflect the skill in those images at all and look heavily referenced) and she's now making really weird posts referencing suicide, self harm and rape. It's all very fakeboitherottengirl-esque.
No. 2339349
File: 1736382259918.jpg (1.4 MB, 1559x2121, fratboystrider.jpg)
I hate whatever self-insert/straight tif yaoi/daddydom predator fetish is going on with this artist (the gay men tattoo kek)
No. 2339450
File: 1736388148265.png (1.5 MB, 900x1288, forcedtolivealoneat14.png)
>>2339296She was saying she was forced to live alone at 14 last year and now she's saying she was taking care of her mother when she was 15 kek
No. 2339452
>>2339193I'm not American but it feels like quite a few countries have been considering banning tiktok.
Idk it's a fun app for me as a hobby artist. Makes me want to draw more fanart for the sake of interactions and it seems fun
No. 2339585
>>2339349Honestly she should just make the short woman big man character that she wants to make so bad. I often can't tell if gendies are obnoxious assholes out of obligation or because they super desperately need to cover their tracks and try to make it seem like their oc ship is more progressive than it seems.
>obsessed with jimmyYeah of course. She'd be torn apart if the woman wasn't an uwu twansmasc
>TIF instathot archetype obsessed with instagram aesthetics>uwu but not a foid though!There are so many of these what
No. 2339596
>>2339576That's because they don't have idea that dark skin also have a color temp (warm, neutral or cold), so they pick the darkest brown, the ashier the better and think "this totally work in my monitor".
Hell, at least pick the Humanae Pantone shit and see which shade works for your oc.
No. 2340034
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>>2339670This looks ugly and the artist should try to improve instead of make art style excuses. I don't support actual harassment, but art communities online have a problem with being too hugboxy.
No. 2340162
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>>2339687Is not "M/F", is MLM, big difference
aka I hate women but is not a woman, is a tif>>2340036>>2340069My monitor also shows this shade so ashy and not human-skin like. Artist should seek for real human samples than "I made this palette from my ass so you don't have to seek skin tones" and the skin tones are shit.
No. 2340281
File: 1736448609220.jpg (21.06 KB, 1053x554, IMG_20200309_154149.jpg)
>>2339349>self insert is 18, inspired by anthy, anya from mouthwashing and harley quinn>the other guy is 32, inspired by akio, the rapist guy from mouthwashing and the jokeryknow.. I wanna be optimistic and say this is just the artist venting but it's more likely this is a fanny perret situation
No. 2340482
File: 1736458938209.jpg (59.29 KB, 1280x1418, blackjak.jpg)
>>2340397Kek I was gonna say the same thing, them in the white background especially. The girl one looks like a genderbend of picrel
No. 2340511
File: 1736459929647.png (199.88 KB, 517x291, 1000048251.png)
>>2340470>the only good webtoon is the queens don't cry memeWtf. There are many actual fine artists who went into commercial art and are creating comics, but because Korea only exports the scroll format, the good creators that put effort into their comics are forced into a box and made to pull all-nighters to keep up with deadlines every week, literally eroding their health to the point where one artist had a miscarriage, and another artist announced she had to stop her comic before it ended because the nerves in her shoulder were so damaged the doctors said if she didn't retire now they'd have to amputate her arm. But of course the only webtoons that get mainstream attention are those with the shittiest art just for people to laugh at all those silly webtoons with overuse of 3d assets.
No. 2340626
lmfao genice just posted to her instagram story she's working on her shop, juby is gonna be seething
>>2340622i've had an easier time with the instagram algorithm than anywhere else, and my followers actually see my shit and interact on there.
No. 2340798
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>>2340710>>2340745I'm not even arguing that most of them suck, but there are some pretty good ones and I think considering they're decades behind the manga industry we shouldn't be so hard on them by discrediting every single one made. Yes the 3d and brush asset abuse is horrible (manga artists also do this but whatever I suppose), yes they're ugly as fuck a lot of the time because of the colouring or stylisation but that doesn't take away from the fact that some look great and have really interesting stories to tell. They're not all in the same style either, that criticism is like if I brought up picrel everytime you wanted to talk about manga.
>>2340727True, but anons are obviosly talking about manhwa and manhua and not western webtoons.
>>2340743Very disappointing that it didn't live up to it's potential. The Lost comparison is excellent kek.
No. 2340805
File: 1736479105015.jpeg (53.36 KB, 773x397, T14162936.jpeg)
>>2340802Again, they have different art styles. I don't like the scrolling format either.
No. 2341085
File: 1736506083547.jpg (600.63 KB, 1170x1007, jbdhk.jpg)
Is this not weight gain fetish art?? The artist only drew skinny/muscular people before this, so this may genuinely just be practice.
But it’s interesting how a slight rewording of intention can change everything. It’s not weight gain/tf fetish art, it’s body type practice art, and now everyone loves it instead of being creeped out(That’s still sort of my reaction though, it’s hard not to divorce this kind of imagery from fetish artists)
No. 2341401
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So about using poses, it's not stealing if the poses are meant to be copied? Surely it's better to get into the habit of changing something about the pose or practice anatomy or making up our own. I'm worried someone will call me out for using a free-to-use pose with my art
No. 2341638
>>2341530NTA but I remember there was some retarded fallout where someone accused another of copying their pose of one of those cookie run characters. I think it did turn out that the copy cat did use their art as inspo (no tracing but did the same subject doing similar poses iirc) but it also turned out that official art of the same character also used that pose so people made fun of them for getting mad over something they also did. The whole thing was really fucking dumb.
I could’ve sworn “pose theft” was a huge thing on DA when it was alive lol.
No. 2341776
File: 1736553800655.jpg (72.62 KB, 600x369, LineofAction_4.jpg)
>>2341401If you're learning it's not an issue. Copy and rip off to your heart's content.
It's only an issue when you're doing a piece and EVERYONE is using the same reference for the same pose with the same perspective. It's a bit uncanny.
When you're studying via figure drawing, even though there's no right or wrong way to do figure art, you're generally encouraged to try and exaggerate or do something kind of different.
No. 2341781
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>>2341776I feel like i saw characters with a pose similar to this so many times.
Again nothing wrong with it and anyone trying to cancel you or all you out is a no life loser.
It's just for creativity's sake, a bit weird.
But don't worry about it if you're learning, that's part of the process.
No. 2341880
File: 1736559182882.webp (14.47 KB, 275x1039, D_NQ_NP_2X_687341-MLA788266802…)
Does anyone here have figures they use as reference? i am looking for an anatomically correct skeleton and wonder if anyone knows of any brand that especializes on mannequins for drawing. I would also like one that has all the muscles. 3D models dont hit the same.
No. 2341961
>>2341950>So kids?No, it was drama between a 26 year old and a 19 year old kek
>>>/snow/2063105There’s definitely adults who still play cookie run, they were probably kids/teenagers back during the game’s early years
No. 2342002
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>>2342000its not tracing, better and more popular artists than you use references all the time
No. 2342004
>>2341996I don't know, I'm usually just unsure and don't hold any negative or positive view towards it. My main concern is just because as a client I don't know if what I'm paying is more inflated compared to another client.
For more information, I haven't actually purchased art before but have sometimes thought about it but have seen sometimes artists saying commissions are open but I see no details about the general pricing.
No. 2342053
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>>2342002I've unlocked a world of resources I was missing, thanks
No. 2342164
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>>2342002nayrt but honest to god those japanese action pose reference books save my fucking ass as someone who is trying to draw more combat scenes, and considering their target audience i wouldn't be surprised if some panels from high profile shounen manga are taken from them.
No. 2342170
File: 1736585681224.mp4 (7.79 MB, 852x480, 45af5c7143f502752ac471c0da8e87…)
>>2342164I remember reading one of the animators for akebi san had to rent an studio and ask her mom to send her her high school uniform to film references for this part of the anime. References are essential, even kjg said he became so good thanks to observing from real life.
No. 2342203
>>2342181If you're going to make a evil cannibalistic deer monster, that's not a actual wendigo (they're more skinwalker-esque humanoid giants) so you're fine on the cultural appropriation front, just don't call it wendigo because it's not. The idea of a cannibalistic/cannibalism inducing spirit isn't something unique to Native American culture either (jè-rogues come to mind immediately for example).
>>2341903Don't skim posts and you shall find your answer.
No. 2342288
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>>2341969Tbh I actually think that art style theft is a thing. Some artists really do have distinct enough art styles to immediately tell when someone is copying their style. Is there something wrong with it? Well it’s a morally gray area, I can understand why people would take issue of others mimicking their style.
For example, Chinese artist ASK (askziye) is probably the artist whose style I’ve seen copied the most, at least in anime circles. Then there’s mgong520 and that random slav artist who is obviously copying her style kek, it even promoted mgong to make a tweet about it
No. 2342464
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>>2341961A witch on a broom in orange and black what an original pose/concept. Thanks for linking me
nonnie I love this retarded bs. Artist sperg outs over nothing are just funny.
>>2341969I would like to know this idiot.Sounds like a cow in the making. At that point why even post your shit online if you're THAT worried about being referenced by others.
>>2342288Yeah in some rare cases it is real if the artist is big enough (like the grifters skin walking brujoari), but like 9 times out of 10 it's some random sperg complaining about a (usually younger) artist using a completely generic style. Like that dumbass angomango who claimed she owned that more animu style of drawing the sonic characters (even tho sonic x came out like a decade before her).
No. 2342490
>>2341969Artstyle theft is alive and well. Everytime I see a vivziepop wannabe I just block and move on because I don’t want to read the inevitable “Art style theft isn’t real! But even if it is I’m not copying that evil
terf bitch at all!! What’s hazbin?!” spergout.
No. 2342517
>>2342511>doesn't change the fact that webtoons took over the marketNta Kek no it didnt. Theres a reason why it's called sloppy. Stop being
triggered over someone calling your sloptoons shitty kekk
(infighting) No. 2342544
>>2342539NTA They did not outcompete manga kek
>>2342511 said
>No one cares about your black and white books anymore. No. 2342615
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>>2342511Literally no one cares about webtoons besides teenage girls into romance. Its clearly targetted towards women into that genre and nothing else, so it will never reach the mainstream like manga. If you are not into high school romance slop and ugly traced yaoi with boring black haired protagonists you wont find anything worth reading there. The reason why manga destroys marvel and dc comics in sales is because its such a diverse market where you can find almost anything, from shonenshit, to shoujo to romcoms to 4koma. Webtoons will always be stuck being ''that app only teenage girls that havent developed taste yet'' use. Hell, i am super nitpicky in romance and i still managed to find several shoujo mangas i liked, because the market is allowed to be diverse in japan. Meanwhile good luck finding anything close to Seishun X Kikanjuu in manwha. All you get is college romcom slop, bl slop, fantasy romcom slop. Wake me the fuck up when manwha starts making good action comics with dynamic poses like Ryoko or Kouya ni Kemono, or even batshit crazy stuff like Jojo or Baki.
No. 2342675
File: 1736625561121.png (1.12 MB, 816x809, 02590820982598.png)
>>2337787YES! So glad someone said it. Her art style really does not suit this subject matter. It's normal to wanna branch out and evolve, but I feel like a better artist would just learn to juggle different styles and techniques, instead of autistically holding onto old habits when they clearly don't serve anymore.
No. 2342725
>>2342615>If you are not into high school romance slop and ugly traced yaoi with boring black haired protagonists you wont find anything worth reading thereThat tells me you don't really read a lot of Korean comics if you think that's all it is.
>Literally no one cares about webtoons besides teenage girls into romance. And this tells me you're one of those weirdos who sees things that young girls are into as 'lesser'.
No. 2342779
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shitty artist accuses better artist of using AI,drama ensues and the latter deletes his account,shitty artist is in full damage control,deletes original post,but it's too late as xitter is already pissed
so basically you can get accused of using AI no matter what you do or draw nowadays
No. 2342790
>>2342725>That tells me you don't really read a lot of Korean comics if you think that's all it is.ofcourse i dont, its all ugly traced garbage. I dont like to be insulted. If japanese artists can draw well while on a time crunch then i expect the same from korean artists.
>And this tells me you're one of those weirdos who sees things that young girls are into as 'lesser'.now you are just projecting and trying to label me as a misogynistic to deflect from my original point that had nothing to do with that, classic lolcow move.
>>2342744Thats not my point, learn to read. My point is that manga has variety while webtoon doesnt. I dont like most romance shit, so i wont find anything i like on webtoon. Meanwhile manga is a varied market that has stuff for everyone. Webtoons make money drawing the same ugly traced slop so they wont try to make anything new or get out of their comfort zone. They know their audience is women and teen girls who are there for romance, so they wont try anything else to attract new audiences. Which is fine, i am glad women into romance have a whole site for them now, but trying to shill objectively bad written slop as good and better than manga is just wrong.
No. 2342860
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>>2342779I was expecting them to be a teenager. Some of the AI accusation posts going around seemed fake to me but I guess there are people that are stupid enough to think any art mistake is just AI.
No. 2342864
>>2342860Yeah no they're not sorry at all if they're drawing shit like this like it's some 2010's #deep vent art. They're trying to paint themselves as a poor confused little
victim who made an innocent mistake and that are now receiving unjustified rough backlash because their head is too far up their own ass to actually care about the weight of what they did.
No. 2342918
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>>2342907>It doesso kodomo no jikan and this shit must be a masterpiece to you then
No. 2342926
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>>2342922some manga about ''mahjong'' written by a mega pickme
No. 2342943
>>2342932>when it comes to things for women especiallythis isnt true either because the romance genre is filled with rapey male love interests and useless doormat mcs that only exist to be pretty. Even in adult romance manwha you have hideous rapist roidpig male love interests with their bimbo female mcs with cosmetic surgery faces.
>mangas tend to look fucking terrible as well.i didnt say they didnt, but they still mog ugly korean shit. Instead of malding you could be posting examples of good webtoon art but you wont because 99% of it is so ass and ugly.
No. 2342965
>>2342939Oh my god, women drawing that shit is rare and the women get rightfully called out for it. For men it's the norm and they even get shilled as great artists and writers, they can even defend pedophiles publicly and there will be people sucking their dicks. It's not the same, stop trying to pretend that it is and admit you're just a weeb cherrypicking.
>>2342943>thinking some black and white scribble of an underage girl "mogs" anything Kek okay, not even going to bother. Just Google a bit and you'll see plenty of korean works that look better than the big titty retarded girl.
>>2342947>>2342952I admit I didn't count pickmes, but they're still better than whatever torture porn males are making. The big titty girl looks ridiculous, it's still not on the same level as a young woman getting raped by some monster featured on a spread page. And not even the kpop lip faggots are as bad, sorry.
No. 2342966
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>>2342952Its so tragic. I was so glad the yaoi hands Okane Ga nai style that was so prevalent in 90s yaoi was dying and then come lazy korean artists who cant draw without 3D models to revive it and make it even uglier.
No. 2342976
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>>2342965>cant provide exampleslmao i can provide thousands of good examples of manga art in seconds yet you cant do the same? very telling. I also wasnt talking about the mahjong boob monster girl, but you clearly cant read for shit. Trying to twist this into a feminist discussion when you are a seething koreaboo violently typing posts after post to defend your plastic surgery monster manwha shit is so funny. Webtoontards are so retarded they cant even look at a black and white comic with more than one speech bubble because they get bored and come here to compare their shitty traced garbage to manga that doesnt treat their readers like speds in a group house that need to be entertained by colors and kpop people to read something while on the shitter or the bus.
No. 2342994
>>2342976>muh no examplesOr maybe I don't want to spam this thread, retard. Keep posting schoolgirls doing autistic shit while almost showing panties though. Omgg guys it's an underage girl slashing a monster with a sword woaahh so cool such good writing and variety woow
>>2342991>assuming my tastesHave fun fighting with yourself I guess.
No. 2343001
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>>2342994>almost showing her pantiesliterally where? or are they schrodinger panties
No. 2343011
>>2342958Samefag but, for some reason while I can read webtoons and manga fine, I sometimes have issue with American (not european) comic dialogue. Can still appreciate it but I think it has to do with how wordy it can be and how it
emphasises specific
words too
much.
No. 2343020
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>>2342991>Webtoon cant do anything that hasnt been done better in manga years agoThe argument wasn't which medium is better, it was that not every manhwa and manhua (Chinese webtoons) is shit, I don't know why you bring this point up as a gotcha. Also I don't think much manga talks about societal issues in SK, or about the homeless population in SK etc.
>>2342573They get turned into TV shows though. All of Us Are Dead is a pretty good show imo even if you sperg about how ugly the original manhwa looked.
>inb4 but not every one!!Yeah but the fictional manhwa industry is only like 20 years old and has way less stock to choose from in comparison to manga, the majority of manga don't get turned into anime or other media either.
>>2342976>no examplesI Love Amy, Bastard (has traced 3d backgrounds but otherwise the art is very appealing), Distant Sky, Electronic Horror Store, My Daughter is a Zombie, All of Us Are Dead, On a Leash, etc. none of these have uggo kpop 90s yaoi characters. I'm not cherry picking, these are just what came to my mind.
No. 2343149
File: 1736647085147.png (462.75 KB, 819x628, dssdad.png)
>>2343069literally only one is done traditionally the rest are all digital. This shit is ugly as fuck, sorry anon.
No. 2343168
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>>2342976NTA but
>examples No. 2343205
>>2343195It doesnt matter if its STILL ugly, anon. The women still look like plastic surgery monsters, except worse drawn.
>>2343168Now this one looks amazing. Whats the name?
No. 2343215
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>>2343205Fight class 3. The story takes a very strange turn but the art was good enough to keep pushing
No. 2343261
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>>2336512>Looks up account>Cuntboy spidermanOf course she’s Chinese
No. 2343388
File: 1736671733270.mp4 (4.47 MB, 720x900, dafuck.mp4)
Can someone less retarded explain me what this guy is doing at the start? all i understood is that he's using two point perspective. But he lost me at all the diamonds.
No. 2343397
>>2343392I understand its to place the individual tiles in perspective but i dont understand how.
>It is really visually busy though, it's kinda hard to understand what I'm looking at once it gets busierlol yeah, thats what i like about his backgrounds. I wish he would release the bgs without his waifu in it, they are much prettier without the characters.
No. 2343432
>>2343397Oh no, I just meant before it actually looks like anything.
It gets so busy with all the lines and diamonds/triangle, that I couldn't tell if I was right about him using them to place the lines properly
No. 2343698
File: 1736697562075.jpg (50.16 KB, 393x600, Edo.(Momentum).600.2535001.jpg)
>>2343195Even among the yaoi koop webtoons there are good looking ones. Of course there aren't as many because korean webtoons have become popular only recently, while mangas have had a lot more time to develop in all kinds of styles and stories (first mangas were also all kinda similar). Anyway here are some examples, these are all romances with drama for the stupid girls. Chinese comics like 19 days also look good imo.
>>2343168>>2343172I get that the technique is good, but this style isn't appealing to me at all. To me hatching doesn't always mean something looks good.
No. 2343723
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>>2342675late but although her illustrations have obviously Deteriorated due to her art block shes pretty good at animating them, i really hope she recovers and comes back and finishes her damn comic ive waiting for a decade for
No. 2343839
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>>2343388Couldn't find a video that explains it so I made a quick "tutorial". Basically the method is a way to create an "identical" copy of the previous shape and in perspective it can be used to measure space between objects. For example, if you want to make a fence in perspective where all the poles are equally spaced apart, this method allows you do do that.
No. 2344070
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>>2313494Nonas: is anyone able to help me, please? My SAI went nuclear and reset all the brush settings including my favourite brush which I've been using for the past year or so. I remember asking some nonas to translate the settings from Russian (I think) in an older art salt thread, then ended up doing it myself before posting the translation to the same thread. I've been scrolling for an hour and still can't find it. If anyone can find it or has it saved already then please post! Thank you.
No. 2344082
>>2344070This happened to me a few times. It might have something to do with the executable's location. I could be talking out of my ass. But there are certain SAI executable icon things that look mildly different from one another. One is busted to shit and the other one works, but may have ti be harvested off of a site like deviantART. I am not shitting you; it's so weird thing you have to work around.
SAI should be in English by default if you buy the version from its native site. Think the folders you need are brushtex, papertex, and something else… config? I can take a pic of my SAI folder to show you where everything is soon. Not at my drawing computer atm.
God I pray for you Nona.
No. 2344239
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>>2343399Perspective for Comic Book Artists goes into this technique (and perspective in general), you can find it on libgen and I think it's honestly a very solid book for anyone who doesn't quite "get" perspective yet.
No. 2344382
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>>2344239>>2343946Have some of you never opened a book? It's not a technique with some special name, it's literally just how to draw in perspective. You'll find it in any book on the subject. Even Loomis
No. 2344595
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>>2343388KEKKKKK why does he draw boobs like that. they look like those snail parasites (picrel)
No. 2344662
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Can’t help but think that this person included all their markers in the photo in such a show-off way kek, like “LOOK AT ALL MY MARKERS AND HOW RICH I AM”
No. 2344679
>>2344662All those markers and still mid as shit.
Is that watercolor paper? Lmao
No. 2344735
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>>2344662I thought the point doing this was to display the colors you used. Ofcourse consoomers had to twist it and made it cringe and annoying.
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>>2344679>>2344717>>2344735I’m scrolling through their portfolio and I actually really like the art. But yes the hundreds of markers in one pic was a bit excessive kek
https://parakid.com/ No. 2344795
>>2344778The funny thing is that the markers in
>>2344662 aren't even that expensive. Those are ohuhus, the budget option for alcohol markers
No. 2344851
>>2344818I completely agree. It'll always be a matter of personal taste, but I've enjoyed both traditional and tradigital art.
I do enjoy digital art, but I've only preferred the most obviously digital methods like pixel art, vector art, and low-poly 3D. Those are fun for me since they give me the same feeling as traditional vs aiming for digital rendering or styles that emulate traditional.
Not sure why. I guess it's because I get to appreciate it for what it is and not try to make it emulate something that it never will be. So I can just relax and roll with it instead of expecting some kind of tangibility. I started out with traditional, so this might skew my perception.
No. 2344965
>>2344874>>2344844Pretty worthless Lie right there when
>>2344717 was the one to mention 'expensive' art supplies, then trying to downplay it by going 'oh but they're just ohuhus!' Just admit you're bitter.
No. 2344978
>>2344902Even if you do use them, they dry super fast. Last summer I bought some Promarkers and they were super fun, but by the 5th drawing or so they started to run out of ink already (plus you need them to be very full of ink for them to blend well).
I'm not gonna spend €20 every few A5 drawings, so sadly I went back to pencils and watercolours since they last you much longer. Even the budget options are too expensive for the time you get to use them imo (but maybe that's just me as drawing is a hobby and I don't make money out of it)
No. 2345217
>>2345200I never know if drawing daily is a good or bad idea. There are "quality VS quantity" studies that show that doing something imperfectly often proved more effective than trying to perfect just one piece. But then again my teacher would always say "whatever you practice you get good at, so make sure you practice the right thing" and I think there's truth to that too… I guess the true answer is the good ol' "stay balanced".
I think it will work better if you have a clear goal. Like "get better at drawing X thing" so you draw that every day, or "force myself to be imaginative" or even just to get into the habit of drawing for drawing's sake!
If your goal is essentially to make as many (decent) finished pieces as possible I think you need to be more realistic about it or you'll get burned out. You can't pump a new decent piece out EVERY day but say you get 2 or 3 days per piece. Or even start with a full week, and see if you can later shorten the period down to fewer days. Maybe that's all you need to turn those not-good pieces into something you instead feel is decent and presentable.
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>>2344382ayrt with the book rec, I know, I just wanted to shill Chelsea's book because goes into autistic enough detail that perspective became a lot more intuitive for me vs tutorials like that Loomis screenshot that are kind of vague in places. Like how do you ensure the first square of your diagram is a perfect square in perspective before you start using the diagonals to make more squares? I get that it's probably not that important in the context of projecting a figure onto like he is here, but idk man I'm just an autist and I wanted to give a rec that spoke my language
No. 2345378
>>2345217ntayrt, but this is pretty solid advice nona. for the moment i'm trying to get into the habit of drawing frequently instead of just postponing it until it's the end of the year and you've made zero advance.
i wonder what makes some people just not improve at all? like they're stuck drawing at their child level even though they do draw rather frequently. yes i know it's about not studying, experimenting and going out your comfort zone, but i am curious in how their brain and perception works… do they NOT see how they're still doing the same shit, with the same mistakes and poor techniques, after all this time?
No. 2345888
>>2345302Doing this I think is fantastic, one of the best things you can do. Investigate, be thoughtful.
I redrew a watercolor painting. Better composition, better colors, less muddy colors, better looking subjects.
I wouldn't do this for everything as some ideas just aren't good, and if you do this forever eventually, you never get to work on new ideas, but once in a while is great
No. 2346151
>>2345985None of the above. I think it's just petty to assume that the artist is bragging about how rich she is because she took a picture of the materials she used to create a piece of art.
Workspace photos are interesting to me. I enjoy seeing what somebody uses during the creative process. Would you assume that something like a behind the scenes documentary was made to brag too?
No. 2346152
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I'm starting to realize improvement isn't as linear as everyone thinks. Not everything you draw is going to be a masterpiece or even to your standards even when you're "good" at art, and you're still going to have older pieces that you favor over newer ones. When you look at an artist's gallery you only see their technical skill and style change over time, but you can't see how much faster they got at drawing, their improved muscle memory and image library, their increased stamina. There's so much more to improving your art skill than just what you see on a canvas. If you yourself feel bad about your lack of improvement visually, ask yourself if there's another way you improved, even if it's just your speed. Sometimes an art "regression" means an artist found a way to streamline their work process and the end result looks more crude as a result. It doesn't necessarily mean they can no longer draw like they used to, but that their interests and preference in how they like to draw.
No. 2346203
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Is anyone else tired of art featuring pretty girls? i always get asked why i dont draw women and not gonna lie, its because the subjects bores me to death. Its out there with the most drawn subjects ever, next to bowls of fruits and boxes in perspective. Whenever i want to draw a woman i cannot think of anything that hasnt been done 3 million times already, and also i am straight so i fail to see the beauty in the female form like others do. I want to draw unconventional women, but it takes real skill to not make them look like tumblr vitiligo steven universe ocs, and even if i did have the skills to potray unconventional women, i feel like people would still call it tumblr shit anyways. I am just going to stick to cars and environments in perspective for now…
No. 2346253
>>2346152Honestly both are good but I hate this narrative that something that's technically correct and detailed is better than something that's stylized and simple. I would sell my soul if my meant all my art wouldn't look like overrendered ass. There's still a market for the left, don't get me wrong, it's just not as impressive.
>>2346203Or you could try drawing pretty men? I get why you might not considering how hard men are to draw. I'm still trying to get good at muscle anatomy for example since my preferences skew towards fit and muscular builds.
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Am i the only one who keeps getting blocked by artists on toyhou.se every once in a while even though i didn't do anything that couldve upset them. I followed a toyhouse user who goes by "itsjonahsart" and the next couple of days i got blocked by them for unknown reason. i barely post on my account and i didn't exactly say or do anything that was in their DNI list.Why is it so damn hard to just follow artists in peace
No. 2346539
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>>2346534Why are you following gendies kek
No. 2346568
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>>2346534I checked her page and her art is nothing to cry home about. why would you follow both a gendie and a mediocre artist kek
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I draw nothing but fanart of my waifus, yet for some reason I keep getting self-proclaimed groypers and the like interacting with my posts. Why must women deal with such faggotry… It feels like you only either attract trannies or poltards if your skill level isn't high enough as an anime-inspired artist.
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>>2346601oh understandable, it sucks that hardly of the tearzah clones copied her when her art style was at her peak which was during her creepy-cute deviantart era
No. 2346746
>>2346741Just keep practicing. Keep copying and iterating, and you’ll get there. Some styles or things are harder to pick up on than others and that’s okay, don’t let yourself be discouraged.
You might be setting yourself up for disappointment because you have something very specific in mind and pictures to compare your work to, so the mistakes are more obvious. I’m sure when you come back to what you’ve done later it won’t look as bad. But whatever you’ve set out to do, you can achieve with enough practice.
No. 2346832
>>2346021Yeah, the price is cheap and they're also refillable. Apparently the new Ohuhus will be on par with Copics, so I'm curious what those will start at once they're publicly released.
>>2346151> Would you assume that something like a behind the scenes documentary was made to brag too?Some are. There are plenty of behind-the-scenes documentaries that have reality show-like productions vs candid ones for the sake of embellishing and bragging, so I'm not sure what your point is. It's been common even before social media's existence.
No. 2346846
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>>2346534>>2346601Anon Im in tears holy shit
No. 2346857
>>2346568>Alabaster HellKek
>>2346846I think you meant you're in tearzah
No. 2346956
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>>2346943kekk i remember this unironically working with a popular pinup artist who draws a bunch of half naked victorian women suddenly posting astarion cock and balls which dropped her coomer following like flies
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>>2347001>>2347012wait until you hear about the cock cage astarion resin figure she got kekkkk
No. 2347566
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Shut the fuck up already
No. 2347576
>>2346610what other anons said about drawing yaoi and butchy waifus plus I think drawing girls who are brown or black might help weed out those kinds of people too, sorry you have to deal with them
you should block them first though, I feel like drawing things they don't like when a bunch follow you and interact with you might encourage them to harass you or something
No. 2347653
>>2347566Moids will say they like
toxic yuri and it's just ryona they found on /u/
No. 2347734
>>2347566Moids sperging about "
toxic yuri" should have their hard drives investigated.
No. 2347775
>>2347758Seconding
>>2347767 , just draw smutty female POV male solo art. You're already working in an extremely oversaturated market so you need to stand out somehow.
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Heartbreaking: The Worst Person You Know Just Made A Great Point
No. 2347857
>>2347822>Catholics hate trans people [Twitter voice] As if they didn't invent those mfs
>>2347771>Does it need to be fotm or original?AYRT You are allowed to draw whatever you want, it's your tablet pen and art program that you bought.
This particular rule goes for anything, like blogging on the smallweb or making commercial works: You will attract what you post. So if you make FOTM "content" your fans will either join you for the next installment of your FOTM cycling or they will unfollow once you stop providing them with their interest. However if you stick to one "brand" e.g. one game/one show/one "theme" (you mentioned monsterboys in
>>2347779 ) then you will have loyal fans for that one interest.
No. 2348152
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I've always struggled with posting my art on social media, I want to curate a following and show off my OCs but I always get caught up in likes. It's even harder now since so many platforms allow AI scraping and nightshade doesn't work for shit on my computer. Im considering posting to rednote but I don't even know the landscape there. Is there any slightly more popular social media artists on here that can give advice?
No. 2348251
>>2347774Fanart is just the easiest way to start because people already care about the guys you're drawing. Of course you can do whatever you want. I feel like it's easier than ever to blow up by drawing ocs, especially on twitter and tiktok. Just make good art of them or compensate by making them otherwise intriguing. The monsterboy thing is a good idea.
>>2348152Think of likes as random numbers. If I look at some big accounts I follow they'll get anywhere from 500 - 50k likes on their posts so I don't feel bad when the same happens to me. Posting consistently is basically all you need to do, something will blow up eventually if your art has any appeal at all. Doesn't matter what social media you use but you'll probably get bored or discouraged if you don't have anyone you want to interact with. I've abandoned big accounts before just because I got more engagement on small ones. Being able to talk about my ocs is worth more than having a big number of strangers click a button because they saw them on their timeline.
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>>2348172She appeals to people who are nostalgic (and fake nostalgic) for certain periods on Tumblr and dA and edgelord teens. Plus the extra attention from the big drama in 2020 drew more eyes to her and more people wanted to orbit her to get some of that attention and there's still people clinging to that desperately. Like another anon said I do wish more people emulate pre-2015/2016 Tearzah because it does have sovl. I'm also a bit annoyed in retrospect because her thread here is somehow more shit than the KF thread, no one even talked about her post-Bavid TIM boyfriend.
No. 2348719
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>>2336532Some of Elizabeth Wakou's art may fit the bill better for "modern art that looks like the old masters"
No. 2348734
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A few months late but did anyone see the drama about shortbox’s creator? She threw a hissy fit at other groups creating their own month long digital fest of debuting new comics and threatens to blacklist anyone who applies to the “competition”. What a psychotic bitch
And fyi there is no big digital comic related or even art related event other than shortbox, and the acceptance rate into this fair is already very low with like 90% of people getting rejected. To top it off, she says that she will probably retire from hosting shortbox after one or two years. So when shortbox is gone, where will people get to buy brand new comics online? Where will artists get to debut new work without having to travel?
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>>2348734And this is probably what she seethed about. A group called Cartoonist Cooperative will be hosting their own digital fair during May. This will be their first fair, and I hope it ends up being successful and more people and artists hear about it so they can ditch shortbox and the creator gets an aneurysm kek
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>>2348719Nice art but kek what a pretentious bitch. Of course she’s a gaimenfag.
No. 2349557
>>2349350My work is features GNC individuals, I tend to avoid things with vauge or ideologically based guidelines as much as possible. It's a hard no for me.
Does this make it hard to get published? Yeah, I guess. But I'd rather self-publish, than cooperate with bullies.
No. 2350094
>>2348781>>2349350Venting here but I've applied to multiple art zines for fun in the past few years, and I NEVER get accepted while many artists way below my skill level do. I'm fully crypto, have no "anti-woke" opinions visible in any way, and my art is genuinely diverse in terms of race and age because I love to draw a variety of humans. I'm convinced the simple fact that I do not have pronouns in my bio nor repost wokeisms is what makes them exclude me. The zines I apply to are of course not woke centered in any way and are just normal topics, but every time the zine creators have pronouns (and more) listed in their introductions and their own pages are full of woke virtue signaling.
It's getting annoying being the bigger person. I'm willing to work with them despite the fact that I think they have insane political opinions, I try not to let it taint my image of them and to see their humanity but they in turn can't accept a single thought outside of their tiny box or you get excluded.
No. 2350106
>>2349350>>2350094>but you could still be rejected if they're butthurt about your skill level or creativity.>in turn can't accept a single thought outside of their tiny box or you get excluded.The 'lack' of gendie topics can also get you side eyed or rejected unfortunately. Unfortunately to crypto better you have to muddy the waters a bit.
>Bigoted is just code for anti trans. If it's super overtly Jim Crow level racist they'll pick up on that, probablyFunny you say this because it's really just true. You can get past any other sort of sketchy topic (especially misogyny and racism) but the moment you're not in a constant dance of fellating gendies you can bet they're going to stomp on you because they're two faced idiotic navel-gazers.
No. 2350194
>>2350094Nona I’ve never had pronouns in my bio or retweeted any politics on my page either. All I do is rt art and that’s it, and I’ve been accepted and even invited to multiple zines. I don’t think you having no pronouns in bio is the issue, mod teams will just accept art styles that they like.
You said that people of lesser skill get accepted, try to see if there’s a similar pattern in their styles. Some zines will want more anime centric styles and others will want westernized/realistic styles. I did get rejected by a zine whose main style was more westernized, probably because my art is mostly anime
No. 2350254
>>2350094do you really get rejected because of that or is it because your portfolio is too weak? When I say portfolio I mean do you have multiple finished artworks with backgrounds, cause that's the typical criteria for a page artist.
I know most zines require you to submit 3 art pieces at minimum, and the larger scale zines sometimes require a portfolio. Another reason you might be getting rejected is because you don't have any art relating to the subject of a zine, but that's the biggest factor ofc
No. 2350287
>>2350268Good for you. Some of my favorite artists follow 0 people, never share others' work and rarely reply to comments which I've always used as a reference on how to act on social media (mainly because I don't like interacting with people in the first place). Most of the outgoing and kind seeming online artists I've talked to were two-faced and cared more about their image than friendships. They'd privately talk shit about
anyone who even slightly messed up in public, even if it was a friend they've known for years, and then they'd continue being all kind to them once twitter users stopped bringing the drama up. It's genuinely sickening.
>I'm sick of plugging my own work for scrapsKek you're stronger than me, I think I would've been too embarassed to not delete my account if a post begging for engagement flopped. Just post art, if it's good people will share it.
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>>2350108>Kek you think you're being the bigger person because no one wants to work with you and the only thing you can do about it is bitch on lc?Yes. I'm willing to talk to and work with people from any political opinion, because that's how the normal real world works. They aren't. I don't see how that's a bad thing to be frustrated about.
>It has literally nothing to do with pronouns in bio, zine organizers just tend to prioritize friends/mutuals/popular artists over strangers.Why are you so convinced people who retweet about troons, palestine and "center minority creators" every 5 minutes are suddenly not politically motivated when it comes to their latest art project? I was once petty enough to check every accepted person, just to see there's not a single non-pronoun-haver accepted.
Could be a coincidence but if you've ever met a woke person you should know how willing they are to exclude anyone for any minor wrongthink. To be fair the fandoms are very troon infested, so it's possible more "mature" fandoms don't have this problem.
>>2350194>You said that people of lesser skill get accepted, try to see if there’s a similar pattern in their styles. Just to give an example, picrel is what I mean when I say they are far below my skill level. They are just super obviously amateurs. Spoilering because it's not milk and I don't mean to roast an innocent person. There is no "pattern" to be seen in their styles. I do assume they're friends with the creators because there is no other reason to choose them over even an average artist.
No. 2350556
>>2350311KEK what the fuck are you even applying to? Find different circles or organize your own projects instead of moping about this. You look down on these people yet you're mad they don't want anything to do with you, do you not realize how pathetic that is?
>I'm willing to talk to and work with people from any political opinion, because that's how the normal real world works.Well, they're obviously not in a position in which they have to act professionally. Zines are oftentimes passion projects that make little if any profit and most of them are terribly mismanaged because no one wants to push their friends around when deadlines get close. Why do you even want to see your work next to shit like your picrel? How would that benefit you? Also can't believe you'd associate with nazis just because you both like to draw the same slop
>>2350299You should want to seem unapproachable. Otherwise people definitely will expect more of you than they would of other artists. Maybe ease into it though, ghosting everyone might lead to questions (which you don't have to answer but that might lead to drama depending on the types of people you've been involved with and how close you got).
No. 2350938
>>2350838KEK
nonnie you and I were thinking the same thing. Probably not Juby,she doesn't have it in her to do more than lurk imo. But if Juby posted in artist salt after we spent multiple threads trashing her that would be funny as fuck.
No. 2350968
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anyone have good resource/book recommendations for drawing plants, specifically trees? not in the scientific drawing sense, I want to be able to draw scenes and backgrounds with trees but I struggle to simplify the form and not either draw every leaf or leave too many branches out and have it look weird. I know part of it just comes with practice and I’ll naturally be rusty at trees since I usually draw people/animals, but if anyone has resources that break it down a bit more I’d be grateful. picrel for an example of very beautifully drawn trees imo.
No. 2351257
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>>2350968Rendering in Pen and Ink and Drawing with Pen and Ink are really good, picrel is from one of them. Maybe going through them would help you in other areas as well.
And there are tons of tutorials if you just google "how to draw trees" or search up "landscape drawing" on z-lib.
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>>2351262What's not clicking? It just looks odd when a line seems to continue where it shouldn't
No. 2351325
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>>2351307Tips like picrel are clearly not examples of someone going for a stained glass look, they are just pointing something out that might look weird when done unintentionally. There are tons of cases in which artists will go out of their way to create tangents. But why do you need a guide to tell you it's okay to do something in the first place
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our fellow donut steel is back with the same shit
No. 2351877
>>2351681I find lavendertowne can be based (she's had
TERF accusations since 2019 iirc) and can eloquently express her thoughts on one hand, but she is irratingly ignorant on the other and her ideas are a massive miss 95% of the time. I also really liked her Poor Things video and then got disappointed with her videos after that.
>>2351824She's like the gen alphas who think sketching with a lead pencil is a unique "style" that they came up with.
No. 2354238
>>2350311I've been a mod to a few zines before and I can guarantee you that being "woke" and political opinions/what someone RTs or doesn't RT is nearly meaningless in the screening process for acceptances, at most one mod or two may check the applicant's social media to make sure they're not a pedo or whatever, but during an app screening our eyes are almost fully on what you're showing us on your portfolio. It sounds more like you don't know how to properly market or showcase yourself for a zine application.
Zine mods prioritize, above all, fanart and certain aesthetics and themes that are in line with what the project's about and tailoring a portfolio selection that caters exactly to that zine's theme is one way to drastically increase your chances. So for example you app for a Sailor Moon zine but your portfolio/the art you're showcasing is 90% composed of male characters from other series, you'll most likely get declined. "Oh but I know how to draw women and I did draw Sailor Moon fanart here and there, just look into my portfolio!" zine mods don't search around too much, we look at the general. That's why it's important to tailor your portfolio to match the zine's themes, aka make a drive folder and select specific drawings that are more in line with what the zine is about. This is no guarante but it'll increase your chances a lot.
There's also the fact that unfortunately maybe your art's aesthetic just isn't what the mods are looking for. I've declined many artists that I admit were very skilled but their art had a style and general presentation that would clash too much with the zine's general aesthetic.
I say this as someone who used to be a nobody and who got declined from zines a couple of times before I finally managed to get accepted into more and more of them: when apping for a zine don't look a your art purely for what it is. Regardless if it's good or bad, if another applicant shows up who has portfolio samples that match the zine's theme and aesthetic much better than yours the mods will favor that person even if they're clearly an amateur. Tailor your portfolio to match the zine's style, if it's a zine about a specific series try to prioritize adding fanart of that series, etc. The mods usually don't give a shit if you have pronouns in bio or not.
No. 2357626
>>2354238Thank you for clearing this up, from another nona.
Sounds like I should just give up on zines, unless I find one that matches things I already have.
This sounds very much 'against' the OG idea of zines, imo, which is the definition it still has in my country, outside of the internet. I get it, but it still feels more in-line with 'let's make a marketable product' rather than 'publish our stuff, 'cause we're not getting it published anywhere else'.
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>>2357626Sounds like just another art space that’s hard to get into.
But I appreciate this topic because I was almost gonna dive in this rabbit hole.
I came across a zine with artist struggles, I’ll see if it mentions anything interesting.