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previously a punk kid who became a pansexual buddhist lolita lifestyler>quit because of bullies and LACE drama (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxz0QVfggik [DL][Archived Copy] [DL][Archived Copy] [DL][Archived Copy])>history of self harm, ED and severe anxiety>has a legitimate shopping problem which she justifies by making an ungodly amount of haul videos>broke up with 2-year boyfriend to date their best friend (and her other best friend's ex) whom she 'loved all along' and 'makes her believe in love at first sight' (Who broke up with her)>can't participate in jfashion communities because 'muh rules & restrictions'>creates her OWN japanese street fashion called Party Kei>Went to Japan to prove to herself she wanted to study fashion design>was basically a two week shopping spree>home again and struggling to keep up with making videos>quitting her jobs to follow ~dream~ of being a fashion designer in Japan>still lying about making 'enough money to pay rent' (while asking Louise for $$) and about being supportive to her followers>interviewed by cbc.ca about internet popularity in her basement room>"would call herself lesbian if she wasn't dating someone with a dick">started streaming on younow for money>Colin broke up with her, now dating girls only through tinder>Got a tattoo of her cat after getting told her wand plan was a bad idea and throwing a fit about it>Full time youtuber now>Got into a crappy fashion/design school close to mommy>Currently dating normie girl >Keeps crying about YouTube demonetization because she can't fund her shopping and sugar addiction >Says she's pagan/a witch but won't talk about it because apparently people are touchy about religions
Latest updates:>Dumped new girlfriend after several-months-long lesbianism obsession, now posts depression memes >Entered a Kawaii Contest to win another trip to Japan, is a finalist>Got a magical girl tattoo on her thigh & dyed her hair "mint">>>/pt/108478>>>/snow/93376>>>/snow/25169>>>/snow/154765>>>/snow/215023>>>/snow/258245>>>/snow/271275>>>/snow/285759>>>/snow/303929>>>/snow/318441>>>/snow/338259>>>/snow/358781>>>/snow/375960>>>/snow/393066>>>/snow/408269>>>/snow/428929
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1. "Showered"….since when does she actually shower?
2. Does she really need to make separate videos for each announcement? She can't just make one big announcement video? I get wanting more content but I'm sure they don't warrant their own videos.
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As if she actually needs that with her. Ugh she’s so painfully cringey.
obviousy we're going to nitpick (lines aren't completely perfect, etc) but generally speaking 95% of people don't have 'perfect' tattoos, and as far as shading, etc go this is pretty great.
as for placement, an anon said it would've been better lower since it'll basically always be cut off. I'm assuming Jill just wanted something that would be easy to cover (she could still wear skirts and have it covered if needed).
It sucks she hasn't realized how quickly she goes through phases. Imagine if she had gotten an MCR tattoo when she was 15 kek>>445452
I think the reason Jill has so many threads is, unlike other people on this site, she posts pretty regularly so there's always something to discuss. I wouldn't consider her a lolcow at all, and I do think she belongs on snow. Sure she's a little cringey, but she doesn't scam people or have huge scandals.
i don't really buy makeup but i got my points from sephora via skincare, mainly. ofc jill doesn't do skincare but if you consider expensive stuff is (foundation $40, mascara $40, lipsticks, etc) it racks up extremely quickly. at my Sephora i always hear the cashiers joking with customers about how they always accidentally end up spending +$100 because of how easy it is.
also, i have judged Jill for how she spends money on clothes and i definitely spend more money than her. the difference is how and why she buys her clothes. the reason we judge her is because she goes through phases quickly, doesn't take care of her clothes, gets rid of them after a month, etc. a good, put together wardrobe will last you a lifetime. if i'm going through a 'phase' i'll not invest in it or i'll buy secondhand so it doesn't hurt my wallet. she just lacks common sense and most people are frustrated by it.
>>445480>the difference is how and why she buys her clothes. the reason we judge her is because she goes through phases quickly, doesn't take care of her clothes, gets rid of them after a month, etc.
I agree with this. She used to wear lolita and buy 300 dollar dresses but no one would really care because it was a niche fashion and she was buying high quality stuff. People would whine that she spent her mom's money but she was like 16 and at least she was actually buying nice clothes. Now she's spending the same amount of money on shitty fast fashion that falls apart and she never wears or looks after her clothes anymore. I think even if you spend a lot on makeup and clothes yourself it's still fair to criticise Jillian's spending because she's become a legitimate hoarder and she seems to have a shopping addiction.
Also the fact that she whines about demonetisation and how she's apparently a starving artist, and her claims to be a designer rub people up the wrong way because all she does is consume utter crap. No one is criticising her because she spends money period. It's the stuff she buys and her whole attitude around money and shopping that pisses people off.
Yeah that's the thing.
I actually love watching expensive fashion hauls, but all the people I enjoy watching are dedicated to their fashion, wear the clothes, and are all hardworking independent people who obviously know how to spend their money (and don't just throw it at random dollar store crap whenever they leave the house).
Jill feels the need to constantly justify her spending and it makes it seem like she needs to reassure herself more than anything, it's pretty sad.
Saging but you clearly didn't understand what the anon said. Obviously people are going to have more respect for someone who spends their money on worthwhile items VS someone who spends it on cheap shit.
Sorry, I would rather spend 1k at Sephora on skincare than 1k on random makeup palettes I wouldn't use, or $1000 on a purse I will keep for the rest of my life vs $1000 on clothing I would get rid of in my next phase. I'm sure most people would agree.
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I think it's hilarious how far from self aware the makeup anons are in a thread where most of the complaints are about Jill's spending habits. Spending $1000 a year on makeup is not normal or reasonable.
I've never spent over $10 on a single bit of makeup and still manage to do it better than Jill. Expensive makeup is not a necessity unless your job is being a MUA. Otherwise it's just frivolous reckless spending on something that will rot over years and you can't sell once used.
>>445567>Not that it matters what Jill spends. Her money her business.
but that isn't the general view of this thread and plenty of people who definitely give a shit about how she spends her money were blogposting last thread about how it's ok for them to drop 1K at sephora but for jill it's a waste
it really is hypocritical lol
I agree with you, the "hurr durr you must be poor if you don't drop $40 for a single mascara or face wash" derailing is absolutely retarded. Expensive doesn't equal good, that's Jill logic. Once again, no one gives a shit how much any of you can afford at Sephora when the topic is Jill's frivolous spending and makeup being a part of it. >>445576
Learn to sage newfag
Yeah, I really like her new tattoo and this pic is pretty aesthetic pleasing.
See Jill, you should match colors more often. It works.
So I didn't post during the makeup debate, but here's a thing: it's only her business when she doesn't make it pretty damn obvious that she spends godawful amounts of money on crap that she doesn't need nor use to a full extent. I can admit that I have a similar problem that can get out of hand very quickly if I don't control myself, but I also have a full time job that allows me to have enough money come in each week and other costs that I have to factor in before I go wild spending money. Jill's only job is Youtube (aka something very unstable), and this thread has regularly debated just how much money she is making that can even remotely account for how much she spends on clothes and makeup alone, when she can't even keep up a regular schedule of videos or completely defend her videos from being demonetized. Factor in the problem that she has to be ready to move into her own apartment for college in less than a year, and it makes it pretty clear that she's not being financially responsible even if it is her own money that she's using. People aren't pissing on Jill's spending for being hypocritical, they're doing it because she's showcasing terrible financial decisions and openly being an idiot about it.>>445592
sage goes in the email field kiddo
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People are focusing way too much on the VIB thing. Like or course if you have one expensive hobby, whether it be makeup, gaming, art, whatever, who gives a fuck? But people complain about Jill's spending because she spends more than that on literally any tiny thing that catches her eye. Makeup, clothes, magical girl toys, fabric she never uses, and now home decor. A bunch of different shit, that she obviously spends thousands on yearly. And then she barely uses it. She even has makeup palettes she's said she won't use half the colors of.
She broadcasts this, purposely including the price of items for bragging points. While she complains about demonitization and being a starving artist.
Literally anybody can see that's fucked up. I'm not a vib, but just because someone is doesn't mean they're wasting their money like jill is. How much of Jill's clothing does she actually wear?? How much random shit does she have lying around her room collecting dust? Remember her TWO pairs of $300 irregular choice shoes she never wears? This is ON TOP of being vib rouge.
Also she's the one broadcasting her spending habits, obviously people are gonna judge her like get over it. This is lolcow, wtf do you expect?
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Recap from the latest stream
>Brought up she's been watching Love Live, she likes it so far, loves/hates Nico
>Talks about how she's going to get her cat tattoo touched up because she's unhappy with having "one amazing tattoo and one kind of sad looking tattoo"
>Her and her mom want to get mother daughter matching tattoos
>Shows off her tattoo, explains the meaning in each part (strong kind beautiful being from go princess precure, the doremi wand bc doremi is sentimental "for a lot of reasons", the hartiel baton because max heart is "the og three), ccs key because ccs "frickin rocks and is beautiful")
>Mentioned she's been struggling with depression especially during the winter months, and is going through a lot that she "doesn't want to get into because she wants to keep a line between personal and public things", explains that this makes it hard to do vlogs because it would be just her eating and being sad
>Won't talk about what she eats vwxUs she still has eating disorder tendencies
>Was supposed to decorate a gingerbread house with a group of friends but "now things are weird and that might make me sad" (likely MG's friend group)
>When it comes to her sexuality (brought up by someone saying she's a lesbian) she's "super confused but thinks she's bi" "I've done a lot of soul searching and I don't think I'm a lesbian"
>When a fan said they thought she was pan she replies with "did you know that people can discover more about themselves/change their mind?"
>"I like queer" "I don't think I'm demisexual because that means you need to be close before feeling sexual urges and I'm definitely not demisexual then"
>Says she's a "saucy girl", says it's awkward to talk about because she's "whee puppy surprises" then "you want some fuck?"
>Leans towards girls but "loves a good peen or two", came to the realization within the last week that she's not completely gay
>Is going to do a what I got for Christmas 2017 video, feels less guilty because she made a video about what she got others
>Jill's dad makes a cameo with one of the cats
>Did a mini Sephora, Ikea and lush haul
>"I exclusively take baths and with the tattoos I have to take showers and it's very sad"
>Her and Wendy/nanamidoll are likely moving in together when she goes to college
>"I'm not talking about my love life from now on at all"
Gonna post the other half in a bit, also this is my first time doing this so I'm sorry if it's shit
I'm honestly surprised I was able to do it, like others have done I had it on in the background and just took note when something interesting came up.
Her talking about sex kinda surprised me a lot, I wonder if she dumped MG because she tried to have sex with her and really wasn't into it? Based on how she worded things it honestly seems that way or something along those lines.
>wants to lose weight>does not know how
it's easy, Jill. Just stop with the peep tea shit and no more cupcakes and cornflakes for breakfast, leave the house for a walk each day and eat some fruit instead of all that sugar trash and you should start seeing some changes.
But I bet all that isn't ~*aesthetic*~ enough.
Shes trying way too hard to label herself in her relationships. If you dont fucking know what to call yourself, just say youre unsure, its okay to be unsure of what you are!
Also:>exclusively takes baths>has to shower because tattoos
Its literally the cleanest she will ever be oh my god
I understood perfectly well what anon said, my point still stands. I don't really respect people more who spend 1k on skincare than those who spend it on makeup, you're really lacking self-awareness if you think you're better because of that.
Also you didn't sage your post.
She likely wont say where she had it made but I'd be howling if she got it made by a middle man. They pretty much do nothing but take your money to act as a shopping service when it really isnt necessary
Jill if you are reading and you had your pin made at Zap or MadeByCooper, ya fucked up
Nitpick but I feel like if she got "strength, kindness, and beauty" it would be more powerful, as it would imply her goal is to have those things.
Having it as "strong, kind, and beautiful" sounds really arrogant especially considering she is none of these things.
If anything, she is desperate, selfish, and materialistic.
i spend thousands of dollars on makeup each year, and yes it’s excessive & i don’t need it.
it’s a hobby i enjoy, but i don’t publicise it on the internet for attention & i also use all the products i buy multiple times.
problem isn’t with the amount of money that jill spends, but with what she spends it on & how much she publicises it.
exactly, jill literally bought a two faced palette that’s $50usd for two shades.
makeup as a hobby is not a problem when you actually use the products that you buy, but she keeps buying eyeshadow palettes with shades she KNOWS she won’t use.
the way she dresses & acts, in the same way that a lot of toddlers do, makes me very uncomfortable when thinking about her in any sexual scenario.
she’s such a child that associating her with anything sexual makes me feel dirty.
i was surprised how uppity she got at the pan comment, since it just read as someone being confused she'd ID as bi instead of pan (since she's said pan in the past and they're commonly seen as the same sexuality, just different labels)
but then she started acting like it was a personal attack on identity lmao
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ofc i pity her because she's clearly regretting everything right now, but. At the same time… She was the one who agreed to date someone who was NOT over her ex. Everything about Jill screams that she's still bitter about Collin. And don't get me started on her forced fake gay, which lasted a month or two and now she's back to being BI. you could see it from miles away.
Again, sucks that she got involved. But Jill reeks of desperation. i think we all saw this coming. Everyone BUT her apparently, which is pretty sad too.
i remember some anons who actually believed Jill was a lesbian because she dated a girl in high school when she was like 15 (and lasted a few months). it was clear as day that she's just bi and leans more towards men, jfc i can't believe some people actually believed her gay shtick.
i guarantee that she's saying this shit because she's already texting some new guy. she never takes breaks between relationships so she never gets over anything smh. she's probably already "in love" with someone new.
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Jill naughty leg porn kek
"MAGICAL GIRL SCAR COVER UP TATTOO"
god, she's really attention whoreing the scar thing.
Even funnier is what started her interest were people she followed on Tumblr in her fairy kei days.
Her inability to just like things without being "the best biggest fan ooh so original and above everyone else" is so grating.
Side note, it feels like in every stream she can't just talk to her "confetti club" without getting snarky or condescending. She really isn't that nice to her fans unless they give her money, draw her, or kiss her ass. Or if they're other efamous kawaii YouTubers.
It's highly speculated that Alyssa was a fan of Jillian's before dating, is this true?
If so, did she come to realize Jillian's social media personality was much different than how she acted irl?
Was it meant to be anything serious?
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i cant believe this video is real
Did Jillian mistreat your sister in any way or was there just major miscommunication/varying degrees of commitment right from the start?
We've all thought she wasn't (and still isn't) over Colin, so.
Okay so some basic questions:
>did Jillian ever pressure Alyssa into Jill's fashion>do you know if they ever had sexual contact or if Jill tried to pressure her>did Alyssa actually agree to be clickbait or was she uncomfortable about it>did Jill constantly talk about Colin or show that she's not over him>is Alyssa going to get the christmas gifts now?https://twitter.com/EmilyCorrigan1/status/942539189102444550
BEAUTIFUL ANGEL CONFIRMED FOR REAL GODBLESS
I assume you're new to lolcow, so you can respond to posts by clicking on the number next to the lil No., you can respond to multiple posts in one post too.
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Honestly my main question: Any details on why the relationship ended??
I second the request to have anything shared that you feel comfortable sharing.
Please take your time with writing everything up and thank you for coming here!
I'm sorry to hear for Alyssa and I hope she's feeling better, but I honestly think she dodged a bullet.
When you click on a post number the reply window opens with a link to that post.
You sound like an awesome sister btw, thanks for stopping by!
I feel really badly that Alyssa has to go through this shit show, especially as her first gay relationship (?). I hope the experience with Jillian doesn't ruin her outlook on dating.
Especially if she's shy and introverted like you're saying, it must have been difficult to be with someone who is so OUT THERE online.
Jillian always said she wanted to respect Alyssa's privacy but I never believed it.
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The respect of privacy thing was mainly on Jill's side. Alyssa did say to me that she didn't really like the idea of a ton of people seeing pictures of my kids and stuff but maybe that was more thinking of me than anything. Whenever I would ask her why she isn't going to be in her videos or why they have no pictures together she always seemed kind of sad that she had to be hidden. Especially since her ex was very much a presence on Jill's social media in the past. Maybe she felt like Jill was hiding her or she wasn't important enough to even have a selfie with. Alyssa told me they legit had pretty much no photos taken together. (Though tons of selfies of Jillian have been taken meanwhile haha)
I really didn't see the issue or why things had to be kept kinda (pun-intended) "mysterious" . People ended up finding Alyssa anyway, and then they made it Facebook official which isn't private at all so like what gives?
Anyway sorry I actually do have ADD (Ritalin helps hah) so I tend to ramble and go off track. But I WILL find my way back to the subject at hand be patient with me please lol.
So after Alyssa asked if she needed a break or something, desperately trying to not say the wrong thing, I guess it ended up with them being on a break…which was a huge miscommunication until after I posted those replies on Twitter and.. YouTube too (but Alyssa asked me to delete those in hopes that they would stay together cause big sis got defensive. Oops sorry not sorry bruh I just replaced them with weird comments haha) anyway.. again .. My mom told me that Jillian broke up with her Sunday at like 3am when in fact it was just the "break" part. That was my mom's fault for miscommunicating ahhaha. So the whole day I spent with Alyssa and my mom on Monday i thought they were broken up. But I think Alyssa also didn't really even know if it meant break or break up. So the next day or so Jillian texted Alyssa asking if they could talk things out when she came back from Halifax getting her tattoo so she said yes. Everyone around her telling her that Jillian probably just wanted to stay together because why the hell Not? They seemed great. At this point I was already pissed. Jill told Alyssa not to worry too much about
It in the meantime. (I have a couple screen shots Alyssa sent me when she was texting her .. sorry Alyssa I didn't ask) there are 2 photos I will post the other too
"hey girlie" idk to me that message doesn't seem like the type that you'd send a significant other??
maybe I'm biased…anyway, I can see how Alyssa would have been offended by not being present in any of Jillian's social media…I mean for crying out loud, she plastered Colin and Tristan all over the place when they were together.
Thank you for clearing everything up.
I think most anons were on Alyssa's side from the beginning and assumed that Jill was the one who broke up/was weird about the social media stuff, but I didn't expect her to be that much of a bitch.
If you're reading this Alyssa, I wish you nice holidays with your family & that you'll feel better soon!
damn dude i feel really bad for your sister bro. like i would be furious! coming out finally and being with someone i thought i was falling for!
tell your sister that one day she is going to find the girl of her dreams, that is going to love her unconditionally!
Just wanted to say that although i'm not from PEI myself, I've met Jill several times in Nova Scotia at multiple events in the last 4 years. She's always rubbed me the wrong way even way before she started her youtube channel. I know i'm not the only person from NS that participates in these threads, several posters seem to be from the area and mentioned meeting Jill personally. But clearly no one has been willing to go public with names etc. Considering how popular she is, it would essentially be social suicide.
I know some people might try to call you petty for posting in these "bully" forums but please know we're regular folk who've had or witnessed negative experiences with Jillian as well. I mean, there's a reason she has 15+ threads here (which is extreme even for lolcow).
Also many of us witnessed her relationships with Tristan/Colin and were appalled how selfishly she treated them. Both of them are better off now and I think we're all rooting for them. They all seem better adjusted than Jill, Alyssa included.
Do you think that Jill was at any point serious about the relationship?
I mean the whole "I suddenly realized I'm not attracted to you" thing seems really weird, it just seems like an excuse to break it off.
I'm from the island and have interacted with Jillian twice while she was still working at Claire's. I have to agree that there's something about her that just comes off as condescending?
I chalked it up to her being at work, and perhaps having a bad day etc. However, after learning she had a YT channel and seeing these threads I think it's deeper than that.
She tries to come across as this relatable, girl next door type in her videos but irl she doesn't seem that open/kind.
Aw thanks for saying that and to everyone with sweet words. I know Alyssa will be so touched to read them. She has low self esteem and doesn't realize how beautiful of a person she is so I love seeing this.
Yeah I totally can understand why people would never come forward or bother to. Alyssa included. Though I'm not concerned with social suicide I have a pretty low key life and I don't mind :)
I honestly didn't even know the extent of Jillians followers until I looked at her social media and YouTube after they started dating. She isn't so well known on PEI. I mean people will be like oh that's cool but nobody here is fangirling that much at all. So we would never consider her a celebrity or something. I think a lot of her fans are in Japan, the UK and US. (The majority at least)
So Jill mentioned something about having a date to make a gingerbread house with her friends but she was sad because "things are weird now", I assume that was about Alyssa's friend group then?
Is Jill still hanging out with Alyssa's friends at all? Do Alyssa and Jill have any contact anymore?
From what I remember, the only irl friend on the island that she's mentioned recently is that guy John.
So, perhaps she latched on to Alyssa to expand her friendgroup, as well?
Not Emily, but I live on PEI as well so I could give some insight.
Jillian lives in the Charlottetown area, which is the capital of the province and honestly pretty progressive? There's quite a lot of diversity, in my opinion. I mean, I'm sure older people would stare and probably think judgmental thoughts but other than that it's not a huge deal.
Perhaps if she lived in one of the smaller communities it would be more of sore thumb situation, but Jillian is most certainly not the only person on the island to dress alternatively.
No further contact as far as I know and yes I remember her tell me about that it wasn't the first time she cancelled something on Alyssa either.
Alyssa loves animals so much she has a bunny and 3 family cats and she had a dwarf hamster (piper) who she had to put down about a month ago. Jillian and Alyssa had plans that day and Alyssa was so sad about having to have had to watch piper be put down and Jill cancelled on her because she was depressed.
Hope she feels better, breakups are the worst and the first one always hits you harder than you think. Thanks for answering our questions.
I'm wondering why she even bothered to make it facebook official if she wasn't attracted to her… Honestly I feel like Jill got dumped and wanted to take her anger out on someone else. It feels good to kick someone when you're down, so maybe she's just lashing out. of course, a well-adjusted person wouldn't be sadistic to others in a time like this, but jill doesn't seem to be particularly well-adjusted.
to clarify, I meant she's taking out her anger from Colin on Alyssa.
Also how many months were they together for? Did Jill ever buy Alyssa anything while they were together? She does put on that 'big gay rainbow gf' act a lot.
This is one of the shittiest things Jill has ever done what the fuck.
I really like animals too and always kind of thought it was shitty of jills family to have bought from BREEDERS than to adopt (because her mom is somehow not allergic to pure bred cats??)>not to start the breeder/shelter argument that always happens
But idk this just cements it more in my mind that jill really doesnt care or have empathy to animals or really any living creature lmao
Exactly. How she talked about her in videos and gushed about how wonderful she was all over social media/made it FBO/etc it's clear Jill used her. >>446238
I think most of us here understand that Louise is a nice person other than enabling her daughter's shitty behavior. I'm glad that she was nice to Alyssa though, Louise has always struck me as a kind, thoughtful person. Too bad the apple fell way way way far from the tree though.
Louise always struck me as an enabler but I really can't hate her for spoiling her daughter, she seems to be a slightly goofy but cool mum. >She actually is good friends with my uncle (who lives in Japan and they visited him on their trip)
This is new information afaik and I'm actually very happy that poor woman got to do something for herself on that insane two-week shopping trip her daughter dragged her to haha
Seems like everything for Jillian is about brand names or labels, clearly being a lesbian was too. I'll never forget her saying she'd call her self a lesbian if she 'wasn't dating someone with a dick'. It's extremely telling about the kind of person she is.>>446241
Jillian always seemed like a total poser to me, she has to be the most outlandish and special or the biggest fan of things. She can't just enjoy what she likes like a normal person. I'm really sorry your sister got caught up in all of Jillian's bullshit, but it's nice to know that she at least has a nice and supportive family that can help her through this. No one deserves to be treated the way Jill treats her significant others.
Sounds like Jill honestly used terrible manipulation tactics just to make herself feel superior. Whether it was using Alyssa as a rebound or using her for gay social media publicity or both.
I don't mean to add fuel to the fire, but she honestly didn't seem to treat this relationship anywhere near as seriously as her last ones. Then again, she did break up with Tristan out of the blue after 2 years for Colin (who was good friends with tristan and jillian's friend's ex), which she admitted was "problematic
" but didn't want to talk too much about it (I believe she said this in an old Q&A video).
So, honestly, better for Alyssa to move on now than two years down the road when Jill would have wasted all her time and efforts anyway. And although it may have understandably hurt Alyssa in the short term to be hidden from Jill's online presence, in the long run it would have been terrible for her life to be plastered everywhere for lgtb youtuber views to serve Jill's ego.
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it had to be done
Yeah not be a sperg but same >>446256
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holy shit. did anyone else almost give jillian the benefit of the doubt when it came to her liking girls? i feel like such an idiot for thinking that MAYBE we were being too hard on her and that there was a possibility of it being genuine, but no>>446253
this was extremely interesting, thanks for coming here and chatting with us! sending lots of positive vibes to you and alyssa, let us know when she's doing better
I laughed but that is DISGUSTING IMAGERY
10/10 would laugh and vomit again
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her tattoo fits her so well
Out of everything here, the filthy socks trigger
me the most. She throws her EXPENSIVE BRAND NAME CLOTHING
on her dirty floor too, lawd
Isn't Jill on xanax? If so, that'd explain why she's a lightweight.
Also 3 drinks daily is kind of a lot.
Fucking lmao, this was my exact sentiment.
I was actually rooting for her a little and glad she finally got a tattoo that doesn't look like shit, and being a little spoiled and self-centered in your early adulthood isn't exactly the end of the world.
And now all this Alyssa stuff comes up and honestly I'm less convinced she's just young and trying to find a sense of identity and more convinced she's just a shit person.
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In the last thread someone said that wish was selling Jill’s artwork without her permission. Well it looks like we have a snitch.
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Why is Jill such a bitch to her fans?
I want to avoid blindly supporting people, like I’m a firm believer of loving the art but hate the artist, and I also understand everyone is human and is problematic
in some way, so as long as you acknowledge they’ve done bad things then it’s okay to enjoy their stuff. It’s like the Melanie Martinez drama. I still enjoy her songs, and I will listen to them, but I won’t buy her merch or support her monetarily anymore until the drama has been proven true or false. The girls who are still screaming that they’ll love and support her no matter what she did is what I want to avoid.
I guess another question could be what makes you want to meet Jill in the first place?
Going back to one of her recent con videos, she arranged a fan meetup and could barely be bothered to attend. When she finally did attend, she singled out two fans for a video bit and quickly fled the scene.
Its really bizarre watching this vlog knowing that as soon as she got back to PEI after the tattoo, she dumped Alyssa, after telling her not to worry and they'll talk it out prior to leaving? >>446139
what kind of manipulative fuckery is that?
Making someone your "official" s/o, all the while keeping them hidden away, then suddenly jumping ship at the first chance after months of dicking them around. Claiming you don't want to lead them on (because it's all a charade and you're wasting their time) far too late in the game.
Jillian is a fuckboy. She used the depression excuse to cancel when her gf's pet was dying but when it's her own tattoo appointment 4 hours away, depression somehow wasn't a problem.
She's clearly happy with herself in the tattoo vlog, then mentioned on livestream that "within the last WEEK or so" she's discovered she's not a lesbian >>445710
and all that considering her reasoning for the break up was "i'm just not attracted to you?!?!?!?!?"
Wow anyone who's dated a toxic person can see this pattern from miles away. So the speculation about her disregarding/mistreating Colin wasn't far off whatsoever.
loving the art/hating the artist is the biggest cop out for accountability ever lmao
i appreciate you trying to be level-minded critical, but with jill her 'art'/brand/content literally IS her so they're inseparable ???
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You disgust me anon. Leave this place and never return
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Honestly. Stop fucking cowtipping to try to be relevant. You're too obvious and it's not cute.
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~I’m so fragile uwu~
you have a poorly made "itabag" of your fursona, shitty lolita coords, and do meme cosplays
please take a step back and look at your own life before you end up with your own thread
imagine taking time out of your busy cowtipping
schedule just to complain you've been outted as gross furry lurktrash.
Jillian didn't date Emily, she dated Alyssa. Emily is Alyssa's sister.
So Emily's appearance is irrelevant.
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You should probably find better privacy settings because i found a picture of you on your Twitter which I also saw in the pk worldwide community (I joined for milk) which led me directly to your Facebook. Let this be a reminder to never cow tip
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why is anon this triggered
that a furry lurked? jesus christ, are you sure she didn't cow tip you?
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Frequently reblogs posts to do with Jillian
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Is this some backhanded compliment?
uh I think most anons aren't interested in the break up itself, and more in Jill's motives/the whole lesbian act.
it's incredibly clear that she isn't over Colin, but instead of admitting that she has to keep making snide remarks at him, claiming that he left because Jill is just too ambitious instead of trying to find any flaws with herself. And now she essentially just let her frustrations out on some poor girl, I think this is extremely shitty and not normal.
that's the thing, she could still be attracted to girls but she doesn't have to be attracted to EVERY girl. i think she just leans towards men, but i don't understand the whole drama surrounding the breakup. i think it's shitty that alyssa was used as a rebound, and she didn't deserve it, but rebounds happen all the time- that's why there's a term for it.
like i said, not trying to whiteknight. i was just hoping for something really interesting about jillian or her character. i guess the confirmation on her being self absorbed is good, but i can't be mad at her for breaking up with someone after a month or two of being official.
I think it's just interesting hearing how she is in person vs her online persona
Like the whole cancelling dates thing because of her depression, it feels weird to me that she's so happily talking about getting a tattoo to celebrate her victory over mental illness, yet apparently she seems to spend all of winter just being a depressed shut-in basement dweller
sorry but>Dating for four months is definitely leading someone on
so she should've just never broken up with her?
i've been broken up with at one month, a year, more than that and less. that's what happens with relationships. i dislike jillian as much as everyone else here, but alyssa isn't entitled to a relationship just because she liked jillian.
I love that people are calling me lame for coming in here and trying to set the record straight about my sister.
The difference between this and normal teenage relationships is, one of the people is a YouTuber with a large following and fans that will believe and bow down to anything she says.
Tell me, have any of you had a break up where thousands of people were following it and have a lot of people give public online opinions about what they think happened, what they think they know etc.?
Nobody ever said that Jill shouldn't have broken up with Alyssa. It was about the way the whole thing played out. It wasn't normal. It was unnecessary. And frankly, do you realize at all how hard it is to go through your first real break up and have the whole internet going on and on about it when you're trying to move on?
Alyssa didn't ask me to come in here, but I couldn't stand anyone acting like she did anything wrong in this. It's not fair that just because she dated someone who is famous on the internet (which she probably didn't realize the extend of it at first either because I thought she was barely known until I started looking her up more when they were dating.) that she gets double the shit of a normal break up plus the person who dumps her has thousands of followers worshipping her for… whatever fucking reason I don't even know.
To the people who are underwhelmed that my information wasn't interesting enough for You, I'm very sorry somebody I love's real life events weren't entertaining enough for You. Sorry to tell you but I did not come here to entertain or impress or shock anyone, I came here to tell the damn truth. Exciting or not.
Just so you're aware… there is no set time period you have to reach for someone to be capable of hurting you.
Nobody cares about us in real life? You don't even know us in real life. You don't even know Jillian. It's weird for me to talk about people I know and have actually met but it's not weird for people to talk endlessly about people they DONT know? Ha
And I'm not middle aged. Why do you assume I'm middle aged because I have children? Because I'm engaged? I'm 24. I had my kids at 20 and 22. I'm young with a life.
For those of you actually being kind thank you this isn't towards you guys.
I just can't wrap my head around people thinking it's lame to talk about something that is my business when they don't think it's lame for them to talk about people they don't know from a hole in the wall.
Yeah, they're mostly stans or whatever. It was a good thing that you came and we really appreciate it. Don't let any
of us get to our head!
I know that, I'm just reacting. I've never been on a forum before, especially one that discusses my own family members.
This is new to me.
I know not everyone will agree that's how life mostly works anyway. I'll try not to let it get to me.
I really appreciate you coming here to set the record straight.
Also I don't think it was "underwhelming" or whatever at all. Hearing that Jill decided to self-indulgently stay home while Alyssa struggled with the death of her hamster is one of the worst things I've heard about Jill yet and really crushed any doubts I had about her actually being a kind person
I think the truth is that Jill realised she isn't as mega ultra lesbian as she thought (or "loves a peen or two" or whatever) but it'd be pretty hard to hear that and not have it majorly fuck with your self-esteem, especially at like 19.
I can't really fault Jill for telling the truth but it seems like a tactless thing to say. She seems to really struggle putting herself in other people's shoes, which I think is also why she treats her partners like accessories in the first place.
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searched lolcow and pixie on twitter. seems more people are cowtipping
I'd bet money that this is the same girl from above lol
This account started tweeting at Jill right after she got chewed out
I'm glad she spoke out, now we can all stop speculating about what really happened. Jill has vague-tweeted about it and plastered A all over her social media before (without showing her).
I wonder what happened that made Jill decide to break it off though. I suppose she kept dating her to get her ego stroked a while longer, but something must have turned.
I gave her the benefit of the doubt about her sexuality (and I still do, she might just not be attracted to Alyssa in particular), but it doesn't even matter how she swings because it was all just a publicity stunt. >>446980
Alyssa didn't even post, what a load of bullshit.
After what Jill recently said in her livestream:>"I don't think I'm demisexual because that means you need to be close before feeling sexual urges and I'm definitely not demisexual then"
It just seems like twisting the knife even further, too. Like if you know whether or not you're attracted to someone straight away why would you make your relationship official and then drag it out for another 2 months before deciding you're not attracted to them.>>446989
Yeah, I really hope Alyssa doesn't get dragged into a bunch of breakup drama bullshit just because some attention whore wanted to stir the pot.
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Okay so Jill knowingly included copyrighted material in her tattoo video and her fans respond like this??
Well the sister thinks it was after jill saw the gifts Alyssa got her.
If Em is still around and wouldn't mind sharing. I'm really curious about the details of what Alyssa got her. If you can't be specific even a general description would be interesting to hear.
I agree with >>446978
that Jillian meant that she wasn't as into women as she thought and thats why she called it off. It's a dick move because she was going on and on for months about being a gay rainby babe uwu with her mystery gf, then this week she suddenly knows she's bi/queer and still likes dick.
I understand people can change what they identify as but Jill has always been about labels. For years she was pansexual/bisexual until her relationship with Colin ended. After that she was 100% totes lesbian now and she was really obnoxious about it. Now she ended it with Alyssa and suddenly realised she 'enjoys a peen or two'? It could be possible that she just put on this whole lesbian charade for clickbait and to spite Colin. I don't doubt she's always been sexually attracted to women but you don't just change your sexuality when you get dumped right? She tried to pretend she was never into men which is what people here were calling her out on.
I do wonder though if Jillian is sexually but not romantically attracted to women and that's what she meant by not being attracted to Alyssa? Jillian obviously never saw a future with her the way she did with Colin (who she stalked from day one) Of course this is all speculation on my part but if I'm right Jillian really is shitty to have strung her along.
That would be hilarious because every time they made a video together, someone would say something to that effect.
But proof or it didn't happen.
honestly i'm just gaining assumptions by what he post on his tumblr a lot of content points to "i'm gay"
his tumblr is wohki.tumblr.com
Colin's tumblr is http://wohki.tumblr.com/
but I'm not the original anon claiming he's full gay (though I wouldn't be surprised)
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also this is tristan's current girlfriend if anyone cared??
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Colin is currently single, according to his fb
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possibly a reaction to this thread re: what emily has had to say about alyssa? what a fucking jerk
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The comment too what the fuck
Her hair looks awful. damn.
Haha, she's trying so hard to act cool, living in her mom's basement with no real job.
who cares? you sound insecure to be insulting the looks of a random undeserving person. sage your noncontributions in a thread about jill.>>447258
im sure at least one person has, he obviously doesnt want to bring attention to himself or be associated with jill at all though, so hes never answered any about their relationship. >>447196>im a conniving asswipe - be jealous!
Colin chose to date Jill, so he had a hand in ruining it. I think he deserves to be left alone though, his social media presence is pretty low key for a reason.>>447196>>447179
Did she see the cow tipper's tweet and thinks that Alyssa spilled tea somewhere? What a mess.
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These comments make me wanna vomit. Is it flu season? Is it stomach virus season? Or is it Jill’s nasty roots season?>>447276
If you’re gonna downplay the milk, at least sage lol. Otherwise it’s hard not to think “hi Jill”
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Well it looks like she's all caught up
also to add,
does anyone else think she manages to sound really self absorbed in this post? like she's relevant/famous enough for faux youtuber drama and gossip?
they did sage?
and you generally don't stop being attracted to someone overnight. jill was bragging about her super special lesbian girlfriend one day and then suddenly vagueposting about being broken up the next. it came out of left field to every single person, alyssa included
Shit, I didn't notice.
I don't know what to say, anons. Sometimes it really does happen overnight. I'm not saying Jill isn't a narcissistic bitch, but there's nothing wrong with losing attraction to someone, or realizing you weren't actually attracted to them. Especially when you're so young.
I know it's useless so I'll stop bringing it up, but I think there are better things to discuss. Like how she wouldn't comfort her GF when she was depressed because.. she was depressed?
It's one thing to stop being attracted to someone, and a completely different thing to tell them to their face.
My ex-gf told me the same thing when I was around Jill's / A's age and it ruined my self-confidence for a long-ass time.
The ability to filter what you say to people is part of having empathy for others. A simple "I'm not ready to settle down", "I need time alone to understand myself", etc. would suffice.
thank you for your contributions to the thread.
Excessive infighting will not be tolerated. Bans have been issued.
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got to browsing some of the older threads and found this bit from 7 months ago. finding it real funny how jill is so anti-KVD, yet kept one of the KVD lipcolors and had a pink one but was so upset that she lost it?? (she says this in her gift-haul thing when she's going over her gifts for Alyssa)
she takes a lot of personal offense to people being genuinely confused about the fact she keeps changing her label & can’t keep her shit together.
people are confused about your sexuality because you keep changing it, jill.
Yeah have to agree. I didn't really care for her in the beginning, she seemed kinda snotty and like she was just trying to copy MilkyFawn in her lolita days but I'd just tell myself that she was only 16 at the time and would probably grow out of it, but nope lol.
She has honestly become so much more immature, bitchy and rude overtime, it's incredible. She has declined in every possible way since she stopped wearing lolita imo.
Yeah, i think we all let her be when she was 16 because she was young and somewhat cutesy. but now she's drunk, still spoiled as hell, petty, immature about all her relationships, and someone who quit her real job to make youtube videos about her richgirl shopping sprees. it ain't cute anymore. its obnoxious at this point.
she's still young i know its not that serious, but since this has been going on for years it feels frustrating cause she never learns a thing. >>446241
>she is also the type of person who will dislike something because its "mainstream"
cough cough madoka aka best magical girl cough cough
Sorry if this is late but she just got recommended to me on tumblr and her tagline is>Manic pixie dream girl
I'm sure ya'll know this already but this is a media term to describe a really poorly characterised, ~quirky~ female who exists solely for the benefit of the male protagonist and has no real story of her own. It's a term for pointing out sexism and poor writing in media, not something cute you should be labelling yourself.>TV tropes for further reading http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ManicPixieDreamGirl
I just can't believe how shallow and stupid she is? It's hilarious that the description of a manic pixie dream girl fits her to a t though - she's not even the main character in her own life because she's such a poseur.
Can confirm, I live where her factory is and it's referred to as the Rainbow Gulag because of how awful she treats her workers. They're constantly hiring because everyone quits. She once came into a target my friend was working at and demanded they stop selling certain things because they were "stealing her designs"
Sorry sage for ot, I just hate people supporting her when she's just a local cow. I wish she was more active to have a thread about her.
She's had that tagline for a long time now and still
hasn't realised how dumb it is >>91688
I agree with it fitting her to a t - it's pretty funny that it describes Jill so well. Sooper quirky uwu but with no actual personality at all, and she bases a huge chunk of her identity on whatever relationship she's in at the time.
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Yeah she insists that she's ~the most family friendly uwu~ but the way she censors her swearing just makes it more obvious than anything. And she makes a lot of sexual innuendo and shit like that.
When I think family friendly I think of ALB doing an ASMR on a plush whale lol not JIll making "easy access" jokes about her man eater snap pants.
Yeah exactly, same with stuff like the whole "no magical girl wands don't look like dildos!" thing. Sure it's immature to keep comparing them to sex toys, but it's also immature to keep bringing it up in your ~family friendly~ videos.
If she actually wanted to be family friendly she should cut out the whole "I'm such a huge b-word!!" stuff, it's not very cute.
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She posted this on Kelly's insta
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I'm always worried about coming off as a creepy lesbian tbh.
I hope Jill continues this because I want to laugh at her.
Oh, so is this """gay""" best friend the reason she broke up with her gf suddenly? hmmmm…?>>448057
Same, Jill has no self-awareness at all so it will continue
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According to his fb, he's straight
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He is her current cover photo too
I remember that too, and then she called him an "ally" when he went to that pride parade with her.
You'd think Jill would be doing damage control after Emily posted here the other night, but instead she's just being even shadier.
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But why Jill
I don't think she ever did, Jon was just always an "ally" lol
It's really funny that the last time she mentioned him was before she started seeing Alyssa, and now that they broke up suddenly he's there again
No I remember her going to pirde rally and she said he was straight. And was just an ally. I thiink she mentioned him once too something with the extent of him saying “I think I’m the only straight tenneger without a mental health issue”
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This is the first mention of Johnathon I could find. All I saw through the threads were anons proclaiming he was gay without any proof or caps.
This is why we’re supposed to post caps when we proclaim something lol. Gotta have proof or else we all end up confused.
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Also I believe she had said they have been friends since she was in 8th grade or something like that
I had actually just forgot to post the image and had that thought. The first of the 3 posts isn't mine though…
Also, even if she doesn't talk about him all of the time doesn't mean that they don't hang out and that she only is with him when she needs him
Uh, yeah, no. I'm neither of those two anons, nice try. >>448144
You're oversimplifying Jillian's breakups quite a bit. It's not hard to see how badly she treats people based on her relationships and take that as a hint to back away from this toxic person.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Wendy got her into Love Live but I'm honestly still surprised she's giving it a shot. Figured it was too mainstream and not ~aesthetically pleasing~ for her. Also surprised her favorite girl is Nico because she has black hair (which is "sooo boring and totally not kawaii harajuku) but I guess her character (needing to be in the spotlight, having a cutesy persona, thinking she's better than everyone else) makes up for it. >>448156
Why is this so funny? Jill is such a fake, haha.
Lol holy shit thanks anon, I was the one who posted those adjectives. I'm glad someone else appreciated them (unlike the precure weeb getting all offended). A+ shoop ty.>>446241
The "hating mainstream things" is so funny considering everything about her comes across as someone trying to desperatly trying to be mainstream. She likes anime ffs.
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he looks like beans
I don't know many people who would get rid of a friend because of something that happened in their relationships either, but I get the impression she generally only hangs out with her friends when she's single.
I know sometimes people can be busy and go for a while without being able to see friends but I think it was mentioned after her breakup with Colin that she hadn't seen her con friends in a while, and she seemed to care more about hanging out with Alyssa's friends recently. She seems exactly like the kind of shitty friend who would have no regard for anyone's feelings but her own tbh
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But dating girls for views is totes okay
pick one Jill:
>I'M SO GAYYYY I LOVE THE GAY YAY LESBIAN THINGS >i date queer women and use them as fashion accessories
but you can only pick 1
wow what great high quality content
also>my entire aesthetic is based around kawaii culture and harajuku!! uwu
yeah keep telling yourself that lol
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>>448469>Listing her favorite brands>2 of them are western brands
Kawaii Leader over here.>>448482
You did a really poor job blocking out that name, anon.
But she deleted it, shocking.
She tweeted that all her fav brands are western (lazy oaf, betsey johnson, and irregular choice). She only included two japanese brands to have japanese brands in there. Also she only owns one candy stripper item, because they're so 'expensive' so I don't know why that's a favorite.>>448469
Kek at the two items she's sewed being the only non-cosplay things she's made all year. She should really sew more for a "fashun desiger~ uwu~" That 500$ serger's going to waste.
God, Im going to start voting for everyone else besides her. I hope she doesn't win, her picture really looked the worst by far out of the lot.
Heres the voting website : https://www.nhk.or.jp/kawaii-i/contest/personalstyle_v_2017.html
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She let it get too dry! She's going to lose spots of it completely. The red in particular is not healing well. Red is the color that is most problematic
for adverse reactions and rejection.
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I bet this is referring to jon
Not your army, etc
lolcow is not for doing things, it is for observing and laughing
Me too haha. Im in both parties. I dont really want her to win because she doesnt deserve it but Kawaii.i is already a joke with Kelly Eden in there.
And on the other hand her winning would provide a ton of milk and lols
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Does anyone know what was up with the closure on this skirt? This might be nitpicky, but there's no way that's a normal zipper closure unless it's improperly installed (the weird gapping at the top) and made with an oversized zipper/zipper pull. I almost wonder if she never actually finished this piece and just had it clipped together for photos and (now) this video…
I thought she was too depressed and tired to make videos on her regular schedule lately
I wonder if this was the exciting announcement video she posted about
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Kelly Eden commented on her latest video, btw.
Just more shitty workmanship then. I don't think even her craft school will be okay with stuff like this. It's not hard to line up a damn zipper.
She said she watches Annika's videos, but does she just not pay attention?
At least she put in a waistband this time, she couldn't be assed doing it with that atrocious pompom birthday outfit she made.
I'm not the best seamstress by any means but her sewing is really bad. She cuts corners with everything, all her stuff looks poorly finished or not finished at all. She doesn't tailor anything to fit either, she just makes the same boxy cropped tshirt that sits awkwardly. It looks like she was trying to go for the whole ~aspiring jfashion designer~ angle for her kawaii i video to give herself an edge over the other contestants, but her stuff is just so poorly executed that it's completely disingenuous and hollow. >>448670
Maybe this is more suited for the cgl thread about the contest but I really don't want to see Jill win because we don't need another dumbfuck like Kelly representing jfashion. I know kawaii.i is a joke and we'd get tons of milk if Jill does win and go to Japan, but more than anything I just want her to shut up about jfashion. She barely wears it at all but still acts like an authority figure. If she won it'd do nothing but boost her ego more. She needs to practice what she preaches before she tries to be a leader of anything imo.
yeah i just looked at the other girls and most of them look so much better than jill. she looks very tacky/cheap next to them, their fashion/aesthetic choices are much more put together…i don't understand how she even made it as a finalist
while it'll be milky if she wins, it would be a shame for the cuter girls to lose
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i guess she won't be going to halcon this year
Am I the only one here who is super triggered
that she made sure to feature a super obvious fake/knock-off Rilakkuma plush? And the fact that it was featured in a 1 minute video designed to promote this bitch as a kawaii culture ambassador.
She's so trashy.
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forgot to attach the screenshot but goddamn stay classy Jill
Both the plush and the plastic container are definite fakes
Not to defend Jill BUT
the plush is not fake, only the container is
Quite a few genuine Rilakkumas (especially the smaller ones) have slightly off center mouths, also that plush is the right color
>>448838>back in her Lolita wannabe milkyfawn days
I miss that honestly, I genuinely loved watching her hauls and reckless spending on brand
And watching /cgl/ blow up about her
>>448871>sage for ot and because roasting Jill for buying a knockoff container is nitpicking
Then you don't know your stuff because the tag placement is fine and so is the color
but it is hard to tell due to the lighting and you can't see the ear tag so eh
You're the one who doesn't know their shit. Rilakkuma plushies made for San-x JP don't have ear tags in the first place, and the tag is wrong regardless. Do you have like, two Rilakkumas and you think you're an expert? Virtually only AQI licensed Rilakkumas have eartags anyway and that's most definitely not even close to the proper leg tag for an AQI Rilakkuma of that size (or any size).
Obviously sage'd(calm down)
Sorry for samefag but I mean are you even paying any attention to the proportions of any part of that thing? Look at the arms and legs compared to literally any authentic Rilakkuma. Look at the shape/size/color/porportion of the paw pad colors.
that you're arguing when that thing is so clearly a fake. Do you have a collection of fakes or something?
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You need to relax
Like I said before, the screenshot is grainy as fuck and genuine Rilakkumas can also be wonky(especially the ears) like pic related which is from Tokyo otaku mode, a legit store.
But goddamn, it's just a plush. This thread is for milk not petty nitpicking and sperging
That one is smaller than Jill's and isn't wonky/disproportionate in the way Jill's is. I know my stuff and her's is, without a shadow of a doubt, a fake.
Pointing out that she has knockoff kawaii merch in her promo vid selling herself as some kind of kawaii ambassador is relevant.
why are you telling others to relax as you continue sperging about toys?>>448930
i agree this thread needs to be cleaned out, i swear these are the same people doing it daily
Probably because it's a popularity contest. Look at beckii cruel winning. Granted she was probably a good choice with her idol/media experience.>>446079>>446080
Damn thought I'd accidentally entered the Hartley hooligans thread there
>>448516>gets tattoo to cover scars; has to shower because of tattoo>proceeds to whine about having to shower while letting the tattoo reach flakey levels of dryness
how many times does she have to confirm she's a moron before she fixes herself? my mom got an infection through her biggest tattoo (not quite sure if it was her fault or that of the tattoo artist, but it happened), but even she managed to take care of the tattoo better than jill has so far>>448776
dont leave us without context now bruh>>448469>shows "closet">"closet" is actual clothing rack out in the open where cat hair and god knows what else can get on it??>jill why
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What are you guys hoping for with the Kawaii I thing?? Both outcomes will provide lots of milk
-Every move of hers will be filmed, we get to see her idiocy constantly
-See how much of an annoying gaijin she is
-Get to observe how she acts around people she does not know
-A dog shit but hilarious shopping haul (reminiscent of her old jp haul, but worse)
-No mum, how is she going to act, I doubt NHK want to constantly look after her and treat her like a child
-I'd be able to meet her and find some milk
If she loses
-She goes to London
-First time to going somewhere with out mumsy
-London is brutal if you're a foreign, dependent tard like Pixie
-Many cows will get to meet her
-Friendship drama possibly
-I'd be able to meet her and get milk still w
Best case scenario is that she ends up going to both
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I feel so bad for her ex gf. I really feel like Jillian tries to blame everyone but her for the break up and it's just a cunt move when she's the one who broke up the relationship in the first place
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jesus christ she's a literal child. jillian, bathing is about keeping your body clean and making sure you don't smell bad, bath bombs are fun to use every so often but it's not supposed to be colorful confetti club funtime every single time you bathe
i can only imagine how bad she must smell irl
t this level of filthyness she can afford to bubblebath every time she washes herself, bc her being clean is so rare.
its kawaii on a budget, she grows her mint color on her skin
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Wait, she doesn't take showers before going into the bath?
seriously though, how obsessed with aesthetic can you get?? >showers aren't kawaii enough so I'll never take one uwu>water isn't kawaii enough so I'll only drink tea uwu>oh this tea isn't kawaii enough so let me throw some fucking marshmallows in there uwu
this is kinda worrisome
PastelBat too, whom she had a very similar video too as well(sitting amongst her Sailor Moon collection which beats Jills balancing act of a collection out the water).
I'd be surprised if Jill won but she's an easy pick for speaking english, already popular and fitting the aesthetic they seem to vouch for.
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kek at this comment left by a fan.
yeah, or when she was in montreal and got really butthurt about two teenage girls gossiping about her hair lol
London would be great in that regard
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Honestly, she has to be retarded. No one who is an adult is repelled by taking showers. It's the cleaner and more effective way to save water as well. I can't imagine someone wanting to soak in their own filth. You're suppose to take showers before your bathe and i doubt she does that either.. Ugh. She's disgusting.
Knowing that she'd rather waste a ton of water and stew in a soup of glitter and her own filth than take a shower is really triggering
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Tbh her and PeachMilky's finalist videos are the only ones I can even stand to watch. Yes they're both "adorkable uwu cyu-tees" that make my eyes roll but their videos are watchable. The rest made me cringe and want to punch myself in the face
I saged for blogging but I wear alt fashion in London and for the most part, people keep their heads down and don't care. If you wear it to the very touristy parts (Oxford Street and the surrounding shopping areas, fairs that attract tourists like winter wonderland, the London eye etc) you're probably kind of thick considering you'll get a load of tourists gawking/filming and probably asking you for LOADS of photos, if they have the decency to ask at all. There's a lot of foreign people visiting and they can be very blunt/rude out of ignorance. She's either going to hate it and bitch about the attention or lap it up.
To be honest, I use the tube a lot while wearing outlandish things, and it's not that hard. That's the place where I get the least troubles, probably because everyone is focused on getting from A to B.
Anyways, I mostly wrote this because Jill lurks, so I'm going to warn her. I don't want her to make a misinformed video about how mean my country is when she just isn't smart enough to not wear eye-catching things on days where she wants to shop. It'll make it a lot easier if she leaves the pastel at home for a day.
I've written way too much, sorry, but I'll be damned if she trashes a city I love.
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I found it annoying before but now its feels even worse after hearing the break up story
Ok this explains why I think of her as English despite her being apparently Canadian.
Btw she is wildly annoying and I don't know how anyone gets through watching her videos without some internal haemorrhaging occurring due to the body crumpling under the weight of the cringe
It's killing smaller, independent brands. Plus they produce their clothing in very… questionable conditions. You don't want massive corporations controlling a market.
For someone like Jill who is advocating a ''style'' that has it's origins in those independent brands it's very hypocrite.
Please hide your power level. In the western world you bathe in the bath which means you don’t shower beforehand. This has been a thing for hundreds of years, and if you don’t have a shower head with the bath you have to dunk your head in the water. It’s why we have a tub that you lie down in. It also is easier to be clean since you can exfoliate better and all.
Using a bath to just soak is a Japanese thing, in which they shower first and that’s why they can share their bath water. But that isn’t a thing beyond the east, and their tubs are traditionally more for sitting.
There is nothing wrong with bathing besides it being time consuming for a typical person to do semi regularly like Jill.
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man I feel like she's close to having a breakdown or something lol
Iirc on her girlfriend gift wrapping video she got one comment saying that it was annoying how much she was pushing the gay lesbian baby uwu shit but I think that's it lol
I mean she took someone randomly scratching her car as a lgbt hate crime, she's really been trying hard to get these SJW pity points
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Ngl I love her cats, this big fluffy one reminds me of my own fluffy, fat cat.>>450050>I’m depressed because I realized I’m not a magical big boi gay lesbian
Pls Santa, all I want for Christmas is for Jill’s friends to realize what a bitch she is.
Outside of lolcow, I very
rarely see negative comments on her videos or social media. It's really strange to see her complain about it, unless she deletes them very quickly. She gets so upset by every tiny disagreement.
Also just go to a fucking psychiatrist then Jill, clearly bubble baths and pink consumer goods aren't the cure to your depression. Who would have guessed.
To be honest I think in Jill's case the alt fashion thing is something that should at least be addressed, not because alt fashion is a sign of mental illness, but because she's so obsessed with labeling herself with it/basing her entire life and character around it.
She rejects anything that might be "mainstream" because she wants to stand out and be as unique as possible at all times. Especially if she suffered from an eating disorder/body image issues in the past, I can see why a psychiatrist might be slightly critical of it.
I wear alt fashion and suffer from mental illness and while I don't think there has to be a relation, when you observe people in the community you can see that there are always people that get too into it and for example end up with an eating disorder.
Don't want to armchair diagnose but I second what >>450152
said. None of my mental health professionals have ever commented on my alt fashion wearing either, but Jill really makes her entire life orbit around her aesthetic, to the point where she doesn't want to do mundane things like showering because they're not cute and fun. It's hard to feel like it's not a coping mechanism for her. Also alt fashion is escapism for some people, so it's not like there's no basis to it.
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found in the comments of her "goth" makeover vid, so is jill now trying to backpedal and try to play it off like kenzie was her mystery gf all along?
Tbh I didn’t believe you so I had to go back and look and oh shit you’re right. Maybe Pixie thought she meant girlfriend though as “female friend”? And her the commenter she was replying to misheard Pixie in the Christmas video and thought she meant Kenzie is mystery gf? Either way, the comment never says “mystery” gf so idk, very sketchy.
I think in general there's the correlation between mental illnesses and things like alt fashion, geek culture, anime ect. because for many it's a form of escapism, but for Jill it's like some kind of identity crisis. Her whole life revolves around labels and being the most unique, the most gay, the biggest fan with the most merch etc. She doesn't even shower because it's not kawaii pinku aesthetic. One anon in this thread suggested that it's because her preteen-early teen years were totally consumed by her eating disorder and now she doesn't have any identity besides latching onto stuff. It sounds plausible. Her therapist sounded kind of shit but I don't think she should be writing off therapy in general in favour of compulsive shopping and pinku bath bombs. At the end of the day therapists are human and sometimes you just don't mesh with them well or they try and force their personal opinions on you. It's unprofessional and shitty if they're rude about it, but that doesn't mean all therapists are evil and hate your fashion. If they make you feel uncomfortable or your personalities clash. you just go to someone else, not write off all therapy as horrible.
>when you observe people in the community you can see that there are always people that get too into it and for example end up with an eating disorder.
I've observed this too, but I wonder if it's less to do with alt fashion itself and more to do with people that are genetically predisposed to mental illness getting unhealthily invested in online communities that provide escapism? There are plenty of 'normie' communities that are filled with the same kinds of people. Plenty of beauty vloggers get too obsessed with trying to seem perfect online and develop depression, anorexia etc. I won't deny that alt fashion definitely attracts more of these people because like Jill they want to be seen as the most special and unique, but having said that there are still plenty of well adjusted people in alt fashion. They just wear it for themselves and engage in their own communities instead of making a point to attention whore on the internet. They also have more to their lives than just their aesthetic. They have real jobs, friends, relationships etc. People like Jill are just a loud minority.
Go play a real Animal Crossing, Jill.
GirlsgoGames got me, though. >>450256
Wait, what? I don't think Jill would be stupid enough to do that, people found MG's instagram.
she's not having a breakdown lol, that's just trendy twitter talk. people post mental illness shit for likes all the time there.
jill you don't just mention you're sexuality, you literally yelled GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY for months and months and it got annoying. and you're a bisexual who leans more towards men anyway. shut up. straight guys don't even follow you, your viewer base is young bisexual girls just like you. fuck your victim complex.
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So uh, she's not even gonna give some weak excuse as to why she couldn't stick to her schedule again?
I agree with here, they're real people and not some anime OTP.>>449606
people like this make my ass itch.
which Christmas video is this commenter referring to???
also rewatching that goth makeover vid, and I hate that jill actually looks…. decent? as a goth?? but her pink hair looked so much better than the mint she has now.
thank you much, she has like the gift guide video, her christmas tree video, and the christmas haul video as well.>>450256
so rewatching the christmas video, MG's gifts are wrapped in the minty green wrapping paper and Kenzie's are in the blue 50s-ish paper, so I think the commenter just got something mixed up during the video? but then it looks like Jill just didnt even pay attention to what she was reading and just said "yes" like a moron as she usually is. idk man surely jill can't be that stupid to backtrack, but then again she only recently made it public that she's single again in the last stream she did so maybe she thinks she's being slick and pulling a wool over us
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>>450385>our girl pixie>way too good
nice joke there
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She cried!! How sad. (From a recent thread on the animaritime page about disorganization)
someone did a recap of her last stream and it came up (stream recap 1 >>445710
recap 2 >>445718
). idk if we can access old streams somehow, either on youtube or younow, but she mentioned not being in a relationship on FB, plus her status on FB was changed (as was MG's status), and earlier in this thread MG's sister was in here tossing epic tea about Jill breaking up with MG. it may have been vague in the stream, so that could be why not many of her fans are picking up on it
wtf? what is her schedule now even?
so she didn't do a Friday video or a Sunday vlog but instead uploads vlogs on Saturday now?
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anons what does this image represent
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straight girl who uses rainbow as aesthetic so much that she will go so far as to fake gay/queer bait for views $$$$$$$$$.
pic related a description of Jill
What the fuck, no details about the situation but Jill must be in the right? Fuck outta here.>>450886
Until the breakup, Kenzie was her "best friend", now John is suddenly back in the picture and he's the best friend again. This reminds me of being in 5th grade and people would change their "best friend order" on a weekly basis.
This was the worst vlog she's ever made, she spent like a minute scrolling through her webcam camera roll, got drunk and acted like a fucking idiot, but somehow
still thought that this was a good idea to include this in her video, and her hair in the end looks rough
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I love Chrissa but this just scream so age play
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Lor posted this to Facebook. Maybe they don’t have beef anymore?? I never thought they did in the first place tbh
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is it just me or does she look downsy
I think it's the chubbiness in the face and shit brows but I constantly think she looks like she has some kind of visually-identifiable developmental disorder. When I see some of her young teen pics where she looked half decent I don't see it, but I might be distracted by the fact she doesn't look like a complete trainwreck in those.
It's like she does everything in her power to look ugly as fuck now. And wtf that pic, she's straight up bald behind her bangs line? It looks like she shaved a chunk of her hair out…
I don't understand how she can
1) put so much effort into looking so shitty
2) display the resulting ugliness to the world
3) look at that ugliness over and over again and repeat the process
it's not even that her "style" or "fashion" is inherently bad on it's own (It's not good, but it could be done in a way she still looks decent), she's just like, purposefully making herself uggo on top of everything.
It's like the peeps tea fat is clogging up her brain and causing her sense of perception to be reversed. Fucking bizarre.
Not sure why but I can't stop watching for that reason. I know lots of people try to defend their being on here by saying they wish they could help the cows, but I sincerely feel joy when bad things happen to her. I've never felt so sadistic over one person, she's just so 'punchable' in her self-induced retardation.
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Jill deffo had beef with Lor
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there is nothing that can be fixed in this picture …
She's trying to do this cutesy face where she scrunches up her nose to look playful or something but her face just isn't made for doing those sorts of expressions.
It just isn't. Goodness.
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holy shit you're right, I was wondering what her face in that picture reminded me of
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I don't think the dress is salvagable, it looks way too much like age play stuff/a kids' costume
Good luck anons. I tried but I think she just opened mail the whole time. I couldn't finish watching it.
Will note-> Opened packages and read letters even though they didn't have 'open on camera on them.'> Got snippy at chat because she was opening mail, not answering questions from them.
Jesus christ. Although I guess being a fan of Jill's doesn't exactly scream "impeccably dressed with a good eye for quality">>451264
I love you anon <3
Looks like she's been using Lush's Dream Cream for her tattoo during the healing process. Does anyone know if that's actually recommended? I know Lush claims it's safe and I think Helen Anderson uses it for her tattoos as well, which is definitely where Jill got the idea since she watches her.
Anyways just curious after anons criticized her tattoo aftercare.
Its seen as really, really terrible to use anything with fragrance with a healing tattoo. The best thing to use for tattoos is unfragranced, uncoloured balms/moisturisers.
However, I saw here https://lushcosmetics.livejournal.com/1968871.html
that its actually pretty good, so it might not be as bad as the anons earlier mentioned, but idk really.
what exactly is your beef with peachie?
peachie is losing hair because she has an illness.
and age play doesn't have a fashion…
if you don't like the ways she dresses that's fine. but don't say it's ageplay lol retard
Personally, I wouldn't use it.
They have other products with little to no scent which are better for healing tattoos. Ultra Balm, for example, is much more ideal. I don't think it will harm the healing process much, but the extra oils aren't going to help it either.
>>451335>and age play doesn't have a fashion…
if you don't like the ways she dresses that's fine. but don't say it's ageplay lol retard
it most certainly does. i think anons here can reach a little bit sometimes in terms of what she wears looking like ageplay, but that dress absolutely does. it's cut exactly like a dress for a 3-7 year old with the giant puffy sleeves and oversized print
peachie is an annoying tryhard.
also, ageplayers try to dress like toddlers and children. are you new to the internet?
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saged for derailing
peachie isn't a try hard at all…maybe you dislike her for your own personal reasons that you choose not to disclose, because so far it just seems like you are pulling things out of your ass for reasons to "hate" on peachie.
and no i'm not new to the internet. and what peachie and jill wears is far from ageplay. maybe you guys think having peter pan collars, with puffy sleeves or wearing lolita dresses is age play. but that's ridiculous, age play only recently became popular and known to the mainstream. peter pan collar dresses with puffy sleeves have been around for a very long time, as well as lolita.
if you are gonna try to hate on people for something, atleast educate yourself first.
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Jill literally reminds of Oscar the grouch who has green fur and lives in a trashcan.
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Oscar did nothing wrong to deserve that comparison but ok
I don't think the waist is baggy; Jill is just chubby and built like a brick. She goes on and on about her 'booty' and 'curves' but she's shapeless.
She mentioned in a recent stream that she does want to lose weight but is afraid because of her past ED so maybe she'll do some toning exercises that help define her waist. Either way better to be thin with little shape than kind of pudgy with little shape.
it'd make her face look less punchable too.
This is super cute and I hope Jill makes more videos like this. I'm glad she's focusing on something creative and interesting, rather than another stupid haul.
I always thought her musical ability was one of the things about her that actually seemed interesting and not vapid and superficial like everything else she does.
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No one cares if you hate J-fashion or think all cute asian clothes is ageplay. Most people who follow this thread found Jillian in her Lolita days or at least when she was deeper in the Jfashion community.
Anyways, this is Chrissa Sparkles and her husband modelling her designs. It's cheap-looking quirky fashion, but not anymore "age play" than brands like Lazy Oaf.
she mentioned before that one of her dreams is to professionally record her original songs and make music videos for them, I really hope she gets around to doing that
even if they didn't turn out perfect it'd be way nicer to see original content instead of her usual hauls
A lot of lolita is ugly and looks like ageplay, surprise>>451592
I agree but so are most teens>>451475
That's a fanclub page?
Not the anon you're replying to but that chick's stuff isn't any more Jfashion than Jill's style (which is not at all at this point), and it's definitely not lolita. Cutesy does not equal Japanese and feminine soft pastel fashion also doesn't equal ageplay; most lolita outside of sweet is rather mature looking anyway, and most sweet stuff doesn't really go anywhere near childish territory when coorded properly unless it's OTT.
On topic though, it's really exciting seeing Jill actually having fun doing something besides shopping and proclaiming how 'super gay' she is. People even hate or complain about her appearance less and her video is somewhat enjoyable; it shows some of the less annoying parts of her personality. If she could redirect the energy she puts into an inconsistent tacky aesthetic and use it on music, sewing, her artwork, or building more of a brand for herself, she could be relatively successful.
But videos like this most likely won't be as popular as hauls or her vlogs, because they don't attract her demographic as much. It really sucks.
I really wish she would continue with stuff like this though, despite the smaller audience/less money.
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You owe me some new sides for xmas, anon.
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Im imagining jill going around telling people she spent (tacky price drop) on uncomfortable, ugly, unwearable shoes like its super quirky and funny now
Why tf do people right the dollar sign at the end that’s so stupid just because you read it that way doesn’t mean you write it like that
Sage for irrelevance but fuck it irks me
No one said she was a child prodigy, what are you on about?>>451976
Which shoes is she talking about?
nayrt but Jill did say she was a child prodigy and bragged about how she was exceptionally talented on piano throughout her childhood.
She's talking about the irregular choice shoes she wore with the Chrissa Sparkles dress.
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I'm glad she got something music related, even if she only wanted it because of the way it looks
this baby piano cost $120https://schoenhut.com/collections/baby-grand-pianos/products/schoenhut-fancy-baby-grand-piano-330-key-pink>>452123
mate its a piano for literal children. its made by a toy company. thats what i was drawing attention to.
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i know we all know jill shops her photos but since no one's pointed this out yet:
the smaller circle may not actually be shopped but her other leg is definitely
this is so weird, I assume she got it because of moving out/not wanting to or being able to take her real piano with her?
but even then it would've been way better to just get a keyboard or e-piano instead of one made for kids
Her parents really give no fucks about wasting their own money to entertain her creepy ageplay fantasy for a few moments. It's one thing for Jill herself to indulge, but the fact her parents actually enable it is so much worse. Like, I think normal parents would say 'no' at this point or question their adult offspring about their strange, useless Christmas gift requests
Congrats Jill on your single photo op with this toddler piano, in the attic it goes. >>452137
Embarrassing and shows how little effort she puts in anything>>452139
I think she has a keyboard (I mean, she bought a serger to make one square), because wasn't she photographed with one when she was in a band?
I'm from the same province as Jillian, and she went to Charlottetown Rural High School which is NOT a French school.
In our English public schools, students can either be enrolled in French immersion (almost all class subjects taught in French so it's more likely the student will become fluent in the language), or core French which is normally one French class per day and teaches you virtually nothing. There is a level between this, often called "enhanced French" that gives students slightly more fluency than core, but not as much as immersion.
I'm thinking Jillian probably tries to make herself seem fluent to be more quirky etc.
I doubt it's an ageplay thing, she most likely just wanted it because it's pink and #aesthetic.
That might be hers, but it was just a regular keyboard and we know that's just too ugly for Jill's rainbow cave.
i actually think this isn't shopped. the first circle on the left: very obviously not shooped to me. she's fat and lifting her foot w/a heavy shoe on it, thus flexing her muscles in the back of her thigh and creating that shape.
also not shooped. she has big calves, is wearing heels, and balancing on that leg. look at the the rest of her leg towards the top. she's obviously standing/leaning in at a slight angle, however the whole leg is proportional.
I mean, I did as well but I'm not inherently French so I don't write out 400$ or constantly remind people of it.
Who knows, perhaps it's just a habit.
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oh yeah you're right, she totally did have a keyboard back then (unless it was from a friend)
so the toy one is just room decoration lol
Yeah looking through her old pictures is wild, back then I used to think her hair/outfits were bad, but compared to her style now they were actually somewhat cute and flattering
I really want her to go back to her style from 2 or 3 years ago, but at the same time I'm curious to see how much worse her style can get…
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I don't think it's shooped either. Gravity will pull the fat on her front legt down, and the shape of the back leg seems fine to me.
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this does sound plausible with how convenient her gift is right after anons mention her band…hmmm
hey jill, you should thoroughly wash your face next and show us!
The proportions of this, especially the sleeves, are horrible.
But it's not surprising since Chrissa is a hack and a total bitch who should probably have her own thread here.
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Just saw this fabric at Hobby Lobby and it reminded me of Jill. I could totally imagine her making something out of it if she sewed more.
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Not to beat a dead horse or anything but did she have beef with albinwonderland? Wasn’t she obsessed with Ang? I remember Jill talking about her ASMR channel and now she never mentions her?
Music anon here, toy piano is recognised as a legitimate instrument and there are some modern corners of music that use toy piano. There are quite a few notable examples of toy piano being used in music, and I've even personally played in an ensemble for a piece featuring a soloist on toy piano - where they are literally playing a tiny kids piano from a toy shop.
I kind of doubt that Jill is really interested in artsy toy piano shit, but who knows she may just really like toy piano (it does offer a different sound to regular piano, and to be fair they are pretty cool). As a musician i don't think its a weird gift or ageplay-ish at all.
Although if she wanted something to take away with her then yeah, probably she should've just bought a full keyboard or electric piano.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toy_piano
Sage for irrelevent
Was finally able to watch this but I dont get why everyone is creaming their panties over this
Its fine, probably one of the few times shes showed any form of a skill to us besides buying stuff. But the skill level was what I would expect of a hobbiest player. Not someone labeled a "child prodigy," "I have nothing left to teach you," "someone whos been playing piano since they were 4," and "someone who had been working on the same song for 2 years."
It felt sloppy to me overall and really should be more refined you would think after working on the same song for so long. But Jill can never be critical of herself so why am I surprised.
>finger positioning was messy, tempo was sloppy
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Maybe because materialistic things are only temporary happiness and you spend the whole year trying to cure yourself with shopping?
I know we always suspected she fills an emotional void with material goods, but this really confirms it. How the fuck can she feel like this every year and not think to get help for it?
I never really cared much that she spends like she does since she's living at home with disposable income right now (even though saving it would still be smarter) but she likely won't have this much money to burn forever and she'll be extremely fucked if she spends money meant for bills on one of her super kawaii Lazy Oaf hauls.
nayrt but it's really not that deep, post-holiday depression in general is common, it's just feeling down and deflated after a really fun holiday or special occasion, and then you go back to normal. Also I'm from Europe as well and unless you throw an insane feast every year or just hate Christmas in general, most adults I know are sad when the Holidays are over too.
Also >>452794>implying that Christmas in 2017 isn't almost entirely about materialism and people don't drain their bank accounts everywhere buying shitty gifts no one needs.
New Year's Eve is like a week away though? I can't understand it personally but I guess I could believe it.
Also, what? I wasn't implying that Christmas wasn't about materialism. No shit it's about materialism to most people, and there's nothing wrong with that imo, but I really feel like if she's crashing and burning because she's ran out of stuff (which was obviously just speculation) that's pretty unhealthy.
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That makes a little more sense. I never would've associated it with post-holiday blues because I was thinking of Christmas as just one day rather than counting the lead-up to it, but I can see why someone might be kind of disappointed after Christmas if they were super excited for it.
But I was only talking about Jill's spending because it ties into her need for material possessions. Obviously she's going to be buying stuff for other people and receiving stuff during a gift-giving holiday, the problem in my opinion is if she feels a need
to get new stuff constantly, which is the impression I get.
I realized that after I already posted that, but imo her need to get new stuff won't be better or worse around Christmas, if anything she'd feel better after getting showered in gifts from her family, which is why her tweet doesn't really say anything about that.
I have no doubt she's using shopping to cope with depression/whatever issues she has, either she's going to realize how damaging overconsumption is (unlikely), she'll get help for her underlying issues, or she'll just run out of money and will be forced to check herself (most likely).
Sorry trailer anon, they're maybe middle-middle class but def not upper class or luxury class by any means. I dont even see them as upper middle. If they had money we'd see one of those McMansions with a 5-car garage and landscaping, nicer cars, expensive vacations, maid service coming through, serious salon hair and nails done once a week instead of jills shit, furniture and home decor that doesnt look like its from a chain store, things like that. Taylor R is upper middle bordering on true upper, for example. So is the Universal-Doll gyaru blogger from tx, if any of you remember her. Jill and her fam are totally spoiled/spendy with material goods and hobby purchases, but for whatever reason anons here think that buying and owning a lot of commonplace stuff means "rich" and it is getting really annoying.
>>453721>If they had money we'd see one of those McMansions with a 5-car garage and landscaping, nicer cars, expensive vacations, maid service coming through, serious salon hair and nails done once a week instead of jills shit, furniture and home decor that doesnt look like its from a chain store, things like that.
You think all upper middle class families live the same? There are plenty of rich people who live more humble lives. Look at Warren Buffet. By your definition he must not be rich.
I'm also guessing that since it's Canada, it's easier to have a comfortable living because there's a bigger safety net.
I have no idea how fucking rich the Vesseys are supposed to be. I think their level of funding Jill's lifestyle is fine. They can probably continue to feed and house her indefinitely while she works a menial job and blows all of her income on random crap.
Way to go around parading about how you know who is actually rich or not, lmao.>>452661
I agree, lolita looks even worse than her current style. kek
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