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•No sperging (i.e., encouraging extreme violence or poop-touching)
•Keep infighting to a minimum
•Try to keep GC/PP discussion contained to this thread
•Ignore any post that is off-topic (racebait, homophobia), or that you suspect was posted by a troll/scrote
Gender critical and radical feminism define gender as sociological (feminine/masculine) and sex as biological (female/male). Woman is defined as an adult human female. Radical feminists seek to abolish gender as it is used by patriarchy to oppress women socially, reproductively, and financially. They strive to preserve women's spaces (such as restrooms, locker rooms, and health care providers) and areas of artistic and intellectual expression separate from men.
Trans ideology posits that one's gender is self-determined based on one's feelings and defines woman as the characteristics and behaviors traditionally ascribed to females by society. Increasingly, transactivists are conflating gender and sex and asserting that a person can self-identify both gender and sex.
Gender critical feminists strive to maintain the distinction between gender and sex. The conflation of gender and sex erases the biological reality of women, eliminates women-only spaces, and disestablishes women as a protected class. Existing laws and legislation currently being passed around the world allowing for self-identification on legal documents do not differentiate between gender and sex.
The acronym TERF (Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminism) is used primarily by transactivists and their allies to denigrate radical feminists and other women who express gender critical ideas. Transactivists portray TERFs as violent oppressors by virtue of their ideas alone.
Posts of related news and web articles are welcome. Posts of photos, videos, and blogs of transactivists for the purposes of discussion and critique are welcome. Please refrain from derailing, infighting, and ad hominem attacks. This thread is not intended for the general discussion of feminism, sexuality, misogyny, or misandry.
Resourceshttps://bannedbytrans.wordpress.comhttps://www.fairplayforwomen.com https://twitter.com/fairplaywomenhttps://www.femaleerasure.comhttp://www.feministcurrent.com https://twitter.com/feministcurrenthttps://feministstruggle.orghttp://www.gendercriticalactioncenter.org
| https://twitter.com/gendercritical_http://www.gendercriticalactioncenter.comhttps://www.genderidentitywatch.comhttps://www.gendertrending.com http://www.gettheloutuk.com
| https://getthelout.wordpress.com/bloghttps://www.lesbian-rights-nz.org/shame-receiptshttps://www.mayday4women.comhttp://www.peaktrans.orghttps://radfem.writeas.comhttps://resistersunited.org https://twitter.com/resistersuhttps://www.sexandgenderintro.comhttps://www.standingforwomen.comhttp://www.terfisaslur.com https://theterfexhibit.com https://www.facebook.com/TheTerfExhibit/https://www.transgenderreality.comhttps://wlrnmedia.wordpress.comhttps://womenarehuman.comhttps://womanmeanssomething.comhttps://www.womansplaceuk.org
Inauthentic Selves: The modern LGBTQ+ Movement Is Run By Philanthropic Astroturf And Based On Junk Sciencehttps://firstname.lastname@example.org/inauthentic-selves-the-modern-lgbtq-movement-is-run-by-philanthropic-astroturf-and-based-on-junk-d08eb6aa1a4b
Pique Resilience Projecthttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmGEMjyAwk6R1lTmG_JjLUAhttps://www.piqueresproject.com
Documenting violent crimes committed by transgender individuals
This Never Happenshttps://www.facebook.com/groups/1722756661380462https://www.reddit.com/r/thisneverhappenshttps://www.peaktrans.org/crimehttp://www.transcrimeuk.com
Parents and clinicians concerned about transgender youthhttps://www.4thwavenow.comhttps://twitter.com/4th_WaveNowhttp://www.gdworkinggroup.orghttps://www.gendercriticalresources.com/Support/index.phphttps://www.kelseycoalition.orghttps://www.parentsofrogdkids.comhttp://thejungsoul.com/guidance-for-parents-of-teens-with-rapid-onset-gender-dysphoriahttps://www.transgenderreality.com/abouthttps://www.transgendertrend.com https://twitter.com/transgendertr
Cathy Brennan / Ally Missandryhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcOhi9MQDYOhodqxi81BZkA
KORADFEM Radical feminism in Koreahttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKfFGy1tlhww6jaKtOkCe2whttps://twitter.com/boroja8902
A Woman's Placehttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzFqsUqDzyXEQMJVy42NwUw
Agitprop, Art, Comics, Memes
Nina Paley / Mimi and Eunicehttp://mimiandeunice.com/category/jenndra-identitty
Sandy Draws Badlyhttps://twitter.com/sandydrawsbadly
The Snowflake Bookshttp://www.lilymaynard.com/the-snowflake-books
The Untameable Shrewshttps://www.theuntameableshrews.comhttps://www.instagram.com/untameableshrews
Woman Adult Human Femalehttps://www.standingforwomen.com
Last Pink Pill thread >>>/ot/444100
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"TERF" thread >>>/g/67378
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Kek'd at that OP pic
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Trancels are even more psychotic than normal incels. How is that possible.
Some troon thinks gore spam on an image board is something we've never seen before.
lmao>>491281>tranny suicide statistics
Imagine if a TERF spammed images of troons being killed in tranny discord. Nearly half of the people present would kill themselves
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This made me laugh and is gonna trigger the no-life scrot stalking this thread but oh well.
I really want to ask that person if they know that the dead and injured women in those images most likely aren't/weren't TERFs, didn't know about any trans stuff and are completely innocent of any shit projected onto them by the text on those pictures.
Chances are, they do, but they're still posting this vile shit anyway. What point are they trying to make?
They're just proving that it's not even "TERFs" they hate, but women in general.
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>tfw i had three clitoral orgasams today and no tranny living or dead will ever experience a single one
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That last picture they posted of the "Terf realising her place" is especially weird because it's literally a TRA woman consulting a trans person for advice on trans-inclusive policies.
So, all women are TERFs (even the ones who support trans people), and TERFs deserve violence. Hmm.
that busted, ape-looking tranny is cropped out. Chuckles Clymer is a fucking eyesore even by troon standards. Can't wait until he joins the 41%.
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Imagine referencing a meme which highlighted how delusional troons are, you need to save that money for brain surgery, not gender reassignment kek.
Like…Just imagine. The woman in this photo really had the empathy and understanding to respect this individual's chosen gender identity, and seek out knowledge on how to accommodate trans people in general, but the goreposter ITT has decided that she's still somehow a "TERF" deserving of degradation and violence.
It's like they're admitting that even if we go out of our way to be welcoming and kind to them, they will hate us and want us dead.
The most cursed image yet in this thread. He looks like a sloppily-shaven, albino gorilla next to a real woman.>>491308
kek, nothing makes me love being a woman and having a female body like tranny jealousy.
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One of my fave images.
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I kek'd at yours, here's a contribution to the bug theme
Why women choose to support trans people is still beyond me. it doesnt affect men, but women?? why would a woman choose to bring back the dark ages and harmful social gender stereotypes? I had a friend i havent seen in 4 years throw a party, so i got some time off to go.
A tranny showed later on and i clocked him so fast. he had to be 6'1, with curly hair, 5 o clock shadow and the worst stereotype of a woman ever. Of course he worked in tech.
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Even with all the makeup and long hair and heels, he is still blatantly not a woman, and that’s one of the best looking troons out there.
Lol imagine this
threatening to bash in muh terfs skulls
(NSFW side photo)
>Throughout each sequence, the male performers slap, punch, gag, kick, stomp, strangle, yell at, pull the hair of, and spit on their female co-stars. The segments conclude with the actor ejaculating into the actress's anus as he repeatedly strikes the back of the woman's head (the eponymous "donkey punches"). The exception to this is the third scene, which ends prematurely due to Alex Devine forcing Steven French (who she had repeatedly requested remove his ring, and to not punch "the wrong side" of her head) to stop. This leads to a short intermission (shot by French) in which directors Grip and Cram Johnson mock Devine, making statements like, "This fucking bitch, fucked up the most important part of the movie!" and "There's no wrong spot to hit a woman!" as they have Devine lick up French's semen.
Every day I wish I was gay more and more.
There was an awful indie horror made by the same name I watched as a teenager, so reading that synopsis scared me for a second because I thought I had repressed half of the film or something.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donkey_Punch_(2008_film)
If it makes you feel any better, most normies don't know what word and so they can't have watched that porn. Watching that indie film made me worry "men might really just decide to kill me in the middle of sex?" and that really fucked me up, even now because there's still a possibility a bigger man could do any crazy thing. However, in my whole life nobody has ever said that word even as a joke so at least it's not an accepted thing like anal or choking, if anyone knows what it is then you know to stay away from them.
A good thought experiment. men cause 100% of unwanted pregnancies
There are of course those who argue that men can be tricked into getting a woman pregnant (nevermind the fact condoms should be used as they also prevent STD’s, which can cause CANCER and INFERTILITY for women, but I digress) but even then, is it truly an unwanted pregnancy? Yes, the man does not want the child, but he is not the one who is pregnant so whether he wants it or not doesn’t dictate the status of the pregnancy. If my partner were to shave his head tomorrow and I didn’t like it, it wouldn’t suddenly become unwanted hair loss because it’s not my
body therefore it is entirely dependent on him whether it is wanted or not.
Men can’t get pregnant, it is entirely up to a woman whether or not the pregnancy is wanted, and if men don’t want children then they should be more responsible with their sperm.
I’m not suggesting by any means that women shouldn’t take control of their own reproductive health, but it’s high time men are actually held accountable for their high risk behaviours and callous attitudes. https://humanparts.medium.com/men-cause-100-of-unwanted-pregnancies-eb0e8288a7e5
There are many factors that contributes to societal and cultural factors that contribute to this behaviour the most common is cognitive distortion.
COGNITIVE DISTORTION :-A cognitive distortion is an exaggerated or irrational thought pattern involved in the onset and perpetuation of psycho-pathological states, especially those more influenced by psycho-social factors, such as depression and anxiety.>Women are unknowable: Male Rapists believe that women are fundamentally different from me and, therefore, cannot be understood. Encounters with women will, therefore, be adversarial and women will be deceptive about what they really want. An example of such a CD might be ”…she is dressed in hot pants and her cleavage is visible. This means she wants sex and it is okay for me to have sex with her” when she says “no” she actually wants to turn me on further.”>Women are sex objects: The CD is that women are constantly receptive to men's sexual needs but are not necessarily always conscious of this. Their body language is more important than what they say and women cannot be hurt by sexual activity unless they are physically harmed, that is beaten or punched. An example of this might be ”…when she looks furtively at me when I make lewd comments, she is actually interested in me. So when she says “no” she is actually playing with me to turn me on further.>Male sex drive is uncontrollable: Men's sexual energies can build up to dangerous levels if women do not provide them with sexual opportunities and once aroused it is difficult not to progress to orgasm. In India, with its culture-bound syndromes of “male sexual weakness” or dhat syndrome, one manifestation of such a CD might be “… I am going to become weak if my “dhat” (semen) flows out (premature ejaculation while molesting or sexually harassing a woman) and a woman does not offer herself to me.”>Entitlement: Men's needs, which include sexual needs, should be met on demand by women. In a nation like India with major gender-based inequalities, such CDs of male entitlement, especially if the victim is from lower status for whatever reason (socioeconomics, caste, etc.) can lead to marital rape (recommended to be considered a crime in the Verma Commission report).>Dangerous world: The world is a hostile and threatening place and people need to be on their guard, but there is no safe haven. An example is “…. I have been wronged in many ways, and so it is not wrong for me to do wrongs to others.”
This messaging is also rampant in the Hindi songs that Bollywood churns out by the hundreds (your eyes tell me you want me but your words say No… and a million different variations of that)…
>>491441>You guys need Jsesus
Ah yes, my man Jsesus Crhirst
Anyway what the fuck kind of autism is this post?
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Just a couple weeks ago admin claimed that mods are her irl friends and that she 100% can vouch that there's no trannies…ok but then how did this happen? Seems like she doesn't have control over her team afterall
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why do all troons look like this? these two look like they're retarded incest cousins
Mods =/= janitors.
said, that anon is referring to a janitor who sperged at a ban evading scrot. They're fired for literally taking scrot bait and giving them the response they wanted. If anything, it might attract more scrots in the future so staff apologizes for that.
Only mods have access to most of the boards features, janitors are assigned to two boards of their choosing and have limited abilities.
And before I'm criticized for responding to anons, who would have figured the site owner would actually read the PP thread and listen to user concerns?
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its cute how you don't understand basic house budgeting, trust fund baby-chan
however if you reduce everything to economics you have no argument. If men are just wallets and have no valuable input you do in fact have no excuse but to form a commune of women the kind the the 2nd wave lesbian separatist obsessed about.
I usually don't comment in these threads, because I'd disrupt them with how contrary my views are but I can't help but say this: stop pretending men are one-dimensional problems and totes not an added value to society or anything. The moment you try to fit your rhetoric to situations on the ground it'll fall apart.
lmao why are you in a pinkpill/GC thread if you think men have actual value? Remove men from society you stamp out over 80% of rapes/murders/child molestation/all violent crime in fact. They don't rear children, they batter women, they start wars.
Women don't NEED men, they need US. That's a basic truth.
Like I said, if I started to dismantle what you said there'd be a shitstorm for the rest of the thread.
I'm not here fro that, I decided to write to the one person who mentioned impoverishment.
Please don't get carried away by these "men start warz" mono brain cell individuals, pooranon. At the end of the day daddy's money will bail them out of their bad life choices and you'll get fucked over.
they seem "brainwashed" or maybe they know not to bother with you because you all have a history of hijacking everything from them.
Talking feminism but still have the money and shit to fuck around and not be a target.
Did anyone watch the documentary on the Warwick uni rape chat controversy? I was sickened by it. Not just the degenerate ‘cels involved but the callous way the uni dealt with it. Most have their identities on lockdown so they will probably continue life as normal https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/thetab.com/uk/warwick/2018/05/09/named-and-pictured-the-warwick-boys-who-made-rape-jokes-in-their-group-chat-28615/amp
Also the scrot in vid related making it all about himself and his fee fees bc of course he fucking did kek.
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>male criminals housed with women include serial pedophile Matthew “Madilyn” Harks (reportedly now released); contract killer Fallon Aubee; child killer and rapist “Tara” Desousa (formerly Adam Laboucane); murderer John “Jamie” Boulachanis, and serial sex offender Patrick “Tara” Pearsall.
>Desousa is serving an indefinite sentence as a dangerous offender in Fraser Valley Institute in British Columbia after being convicted of raping a three-month-old baby boy in Quesnel, BC in 1999, when he was 15. >Desousa also admitted to drowning a three-year-old child when he was 11, but because he was under 12 at the time of the murder, no charges were laid, it reported
>Harks was released to a halfway house in Brampton, that he had assaulted two female inmates who were “childlike in appearance.”>After Harks’ supervision order was rescinded because of public outcry, he was sent to Grand Valley, where he allegedly sexually harassed a female inmate. >She filed a grievance September 17, 2019 asserting CSC staff “failed to intervene” even though they were aware Harks was harassing her, reports Halley.>The inmate had a “history of childhood sexual abuse that was perpetrated by a male, so her “confinement with Harks, and the failure of CSC to relocate her, was deeply triggering. She is citing multiple violations of the Corrections and Conditional Release Act,” Halley wrote.
>Mason wrote that an inmate in Grand Valley Institute in Ontario — one of Canada’s six federal women penitentiaries — told her in a phone call that medical staff were “handing out the morning after pill” to female prisoners
This makes me feel sick. Women in prison are usually victims
of abuse and now they have violent troon pedo rapists preying on them. So much is being done to harm women in any way possible I'm starting to wonder if it's intentional.
>>491743>white guys with money>reasonable looking>handed everything>still hateful scrots
There's no excuse. What terrible traumas did they go through to end up that hateful? None, they are just offended that women have the freedom to discuss sexual assault. How can they joke about raping essentially anyone
while also inventing some bar of attractiveness to sexual assault?
Its just an acronym and its not wrong so I've never seen the term as a bad thing.
I say lets own it.
Thanks for this, anon. I had this post in mind, but couldn't find it. I deleted my posts because I feel like my opinions on this are still a bit too muddled.>Imagine if women were seen as the ideal political leaders BECAUSE they’re the ones best suited for raising young children. What if it was assumed that government positions were sort of scaled-up households, and that only a leader who saw their subjects as their children could be fair and compassionate enough to rule effectively? What is a village, or a country, but an extended family?
This is very important IMO. Men really like to denigrate us for being "childbearers", as if it's less important, but in reality, it doesn't make sense to place someone who has no sense of care for those they're placed in charge of as a leader.
Men see presidency or any other sort of rule over a society as some "I'm the strongest, biggest man with the biggest dick and the most accolades" thing. It's purely a narcissist grab for them.
In reality, leadership basically means taking on a huge babysitting/parenting job for people you might not even be directly related to, and everyone knows abusive
, narcissistic parents only create dysfunctional families and traumatized children.
It only makes sense that a sensible, understanding mother would translate to a good leader who takes care of their people's needs. The same way men in nuclear "trad" families go to work and provide to keep the lights on, a female leader's counterpart would "go to work and provide" the most basic resources needed to keep the society running at the foundation level. It all works out.
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Nothing we didn’t already know, but at least the incels are being honest about it now.
>>491743>and how another girl he personally knows “deserves hair straighteners on her flaps.”
Wtf does that mean.>He also named the group, “Fuck women disrespect them all”
And we still have women out here trying to vet for them and claiming not all men uwu bs when those men are out right honest about wanting about their distain. Those males were talking about their close friends too. >>491792
Is that incels.co? Because I thought that site was a honeypot for the fbi to profile?
Anyway its all their same talking points and all the more reason to carry a weapon on you. Let them whine and die mad and alone.
What a pathetic triggered
Men constantly use the 'sjw triggered
'' buzzword yet this man is the definition of triggered
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From that thread, delusional troon compares MtFs to women who are rape or child abuse survivors.
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as the incels would say
just a small vent but I thought it belonged here. Today I had to work with an autistic man that for a few months, has harrassed me, been making me extremely uncomfortable and nervous every time we get stuck together. afterwards I am always visibly shaken from having to interact with him. I feel genuine fear, he comes across as someone who could be capable of harm, but you just never know. Today after the fact, I was having anxiety as usual and some male coworkers joke and says to me “OH come on, he’s not that bad, just weird” and I felt angry….of course they dont see how a woman could POSSIBLY be afraid of an obsessive male autist. if anything were to happen to them, they could much easier defend themselves. I don’t have the same ability, and it just made it so clear again the differences….a man like this is a joke and “just weird” to other men, but to women it is ALWAYS a potential danger. if we express concern about a mans strange behavior, we are told we are overreacting and its not a big deal..
Heavy cope. Judging by that double chin and round shoulders, he's gotta be already really overweight too. Doubt he wants kids, just a fuckmom around to care for him>>491847
was he in spokane? because kiwifarms have tracking that guy Lucas Werner who sounds exactly like that
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The fucking delusions I swear…
It's a male attempting to cope with the fact he's unneeded by society. I'm sure he'd spin a story about how men saved women from the terrifying threats of the world. Like Vietnam lmao.>>491747
I'm sorry but he DROWNED a child at 11 and no charges or anything? Not even mandated therapy? What in the hell.
Look at the sheer volume of women raped during wartime. One look at "comfort women". Those women still suffer to this day, just like any man who fought. Men create war and if they don't like the draft they should just stop creating them.>>491820
"wrong sex". Literally no tranny understands basic biology.
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This shit makes my brain hurt. And always with the lesbians. Gay men don't get 1/10th the nagging lesbians get over trannies.
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troon mod confirmed
>>491918>turns the rest of the site against us
wait are you really implying that "the rest of the site" is all scrotepeople? what the fck
libfem or dck falseflagger?
Yeah, it's true. The alt-right scrotes wouldn't pretend to give a shit if it didn't give them something new to blame on jews, I mean, "joomers." Women have no allies.
At least I can get a few laughs out of coomer memes whilst trying to block out the horrific intrusive thoughts about how vile and predatory the porn industry is. Haha.
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Saw this on Instagram. What the fuck?
They'll say women are a drain when those same males will gladly whine about how they want to do nothing but watch porn and play video games. I think theyre hyper focused on women being forced to have kids because it means controk and an achievement (for the male) without much work.>>491953
They don't know what they want. They want sex but hate women who enjoy it.
The cure to this agressive retardation is to lower their t levels probably.
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I know this is old but I just saw it. It pisses me off so much. Why does it offend him so much if MENSTRUAL products are marketed as "feminine"? How does that even effect him?
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Also, why are TIMs obsessed with telling people to suck their ducks?
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I capped this yesterday and forgot to post it. This is cognitive dissonance in a Tweet.
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Feminists are time travelers, duh.
Ancient Egyptian women being allowed to own property, be priests or doctors, and initiate divorces? Obviously caused by feminism, a movement that began in the late nineteenth century!
Pre-Christian Norse women also being allowed to own property, be priests or doctors, and initiate divorces? Totally the work of those scheming feminists.
Ancient Celts practicing polyandry and allowing women to be druids? Feminism strikes again!
Human tribes being largely egalitarian before agriculture and the advent of property inheritance caused child-bearing to become a commodity that men wanted to control via subjugating women? Damn. Guess the time-traveling feminists forgot to fix that last part.
Some anthropology autism:
I pretty much just included the thing about property and farming because it's a fantastic explanation of the origin of systemic misogyny. When humans were nomadic, men would typically move away from their own family to live with their wives, because women being able to have babies meant that they controlled the lineage of the family. When humans started farming and building houses, the nomadic system of men leaving their families would have meant that men would have to abandon the shit they built, or give it over to their female relatives, which they didn't want to do. This is pretty much when men realized how valuable the ability to have children is, and sought to control it. To neolithic men, women were just another thing from nature to be controlled for their benefit, like wheat or goats.
Interestingly, the "nomadic" family model wherein husbands gravitate towards their wives' families has started to return to society, not necessarily because of feminism, but because people just don't stay in one place their whole live anymore. The cultural and economic importance of land/home ownership is inversely correlated with matrilineal family groups. The less people care about land and houses, the more likely men are to integrate with their wives' families.
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It it is irritating how in those inclusive
illustrations where they draw real people as they claim they tend to make transwomen look like goddesses with penises and not crusty men with a beard and small hips as they are.
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That thread is shitshow. Do you notice how all their arguments are very “gatekeeper “-y and really not much different from ebil terven? Why is it okay for them to strictly gatekeep and label people without their permission? I thought if you identify as something, then you ARE that identity, no questions asked?
^In this exchange, just replace lesbian with woman/man or female/male. >like a female is a female you can’t change that lmao”
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This is the only accurate drawing of a trans woman. Funnily enough it's the same artist as >>492029
Got to love how all the females are the ones depicted with obesity, skin disease, cellulite, body hair and sagging breasts and the male is posed like The Birth of Venus.
I just saw another drawing like this and of course, the trans woman was depicted with an idealized, slim female body and impossibly curved hips of someone with an actual female reproductive system. Just draw a beautiful woman and stick a penis on her.
…and at one point they controlled most of Europe, which is why their shitty views are so pervasive in Western culture.
The Greek geographer Strabo was scandalized by the fact that men and women would hold hands in ancient Iberian culture:
>in Bastetania, women too dance promiscuously with men, taking hold of their hands.
>But as for their custom relating to the men and the women (I mean the fact that their tasks have been exchanged, in a manner opposite to what obtains among us), it is one which they share in common with many other barbarian peoples.Holding hands
was considered promiscuous, and viewing women as equals was barbaric to the Greeks and Romans, jfc.
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yeah the trans one is the only one to be both young thin and white, youre right that all the other women seem like an afterthought. it's like he's saying trans women conform to beauty ideas more than real women… when in reality they all more or less resemble adf-fuensalida with a cat ear head band>>492058
nice anatomy, his dick is hanging off his fupa… when youre that fat it's covered by gut fat
Mens lib is so funny. They HATE radfems so much.
>Basic facts about penises and their nerve stimuly (for those bIoLogICalY obsessed)
I just… how do you have any kind of sex without giving into biological necessities? The fact they see learning about how the penis works as "biologically obsessed" is so fucking funny.
>How to relate sexually with a flaccid penis, and why they're great too
Yeah the Celtic and Norse societies were leagues ahead of Christianity for women's rights, but even then they were still very patriarchal. >>492064
That doesn't surprise me. Women were literally considered property in ancient Greece iirc.
Flaccid penises are gross, I'm sorry. I'm straight but there's nothing attractive about them. The thought of sucking a flaccid dick that will never get hard makes me gag. "mouthfeel" is fucking terrorism. >>492096
I read a book on the Fritzl's and yeah, his first victim
was his wife. On top of that the girl was behind several soundproof doors and tunnels and shit. The entrance was in his room that she would get beaten for if she went near. People act like she was just in the next room all those years.
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This is the second incident related to the École Polytechnique massacre this year, the other one being a scrote from Montreal being arrested for writing a blog hailing the shooter Marc Lepine and calling for more violence against women. What the fuck is going on?
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Ok, what the fuck. This guy wants to pay 60 dollarydoos for a drawing of himself as a woman performing an abortion.
I’m far from being some pro-life nutter, but that shit is creepy af. Does he have an abortion fetish or something?
>>492158>written in Arabic and English
Hatred of women is still universal. What is to be expected will be the comments from scrotes who think the time to discuss why males suffer in our "misandrist" society is when a story comes up of women being fucking murdered by a misogynist who wanted to hurt women. Always. Bet if you look through reddit with the story posted, you'll find at least one of them. >>492169
It is really really
sad when the reaction is "at least he isn't some misogynistic pro lifer who hates women for having uterui and needing an abortion" but I think you're right that he straight up fetishes abortions and reproductive organs.
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This is getting pretty dark, I regret finding this dude
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This is a cringy rabbit hole.
At least make a separate account for your sexual roleplay shit dude. He posts selfies and talks about teaching children on the same account.
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He's also le epic meme lord. Gotta love how those women are still women and you're a man in a dress lmao
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God these people are fucking dense. Women who hate birth control hate the horrific side effects they experience, not because it severs their mystical feminine connection to the moon or some dumb shit. This guy's obsession with abortions and birth control is extremely creepy.
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kek he also posts to r/transtryouts where troons go to validate their little wish fulfillment fantasies by roleplaying with other troons. Creepy AND pathetic.
absolutely disgusting. he's a HIGH SCHOOL TEACHER fantasizing about being a teenage girl sexually abused by her own mother. i hope this fucker with obvious porn-induced brain rot gets reported and loses his job, but i'm sure he'd cry TwAnSpHoBiA and get off scot-free.
and to top it off, he's got some bizarre medical fetish involving abortions. he can scream that he's pro-choice all he wants, but he doesn't actually care about women's rights and access to reproductive healthcare; it's just fap fodder to him. note: he moans about wanting to be a woman, but he's never the one enduring the traumatic, invasive procedure he disgustingly fantasizes about.
>he’s never the one getting an abortion
Not really, since in this post >>492182
he fantasizes about himself getting pregnant and aborting. But that just further goes to show that pregnancy/termination is 100% a sexual thing for him.
What convinces me even more of him being a deviant is that he chose this clearly impossible idea of being a female abortion doctor and put in on a pedestal. If he were really concerned about women not having access to abortions he could simply become an activist or get a job at planned parenthood, not even as a doctor, just to help out. But no, it has to be him violating female bodies and acting as a savior uwu~
It’s a shame this dude doesn’t have more of an internet presence, he’d be a prime cow material.
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He even chose the name Ella for his imaginary abortion doctor persona.>>492195
Jesus, what a sicko
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He also said he's against IVF because it "destroys embryos."
I think he just gets off on the idea that abortions are destroying another man's genetic material and not his. He thinks women having abortions is "smashing the patriarchy."
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This is some of the the most disturbing shit I've seen online, holy shit.
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He was on a field trip with his high school when he posted this.
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and look at the comments
Men are SO STUPID that they see the "manslater" translating visual and verbal cues that a non-autists can pick up as literal caveman speak is a btfo at FEMINIST KEK
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seriously, this man is one of the creepiest fucks I've come across in a long time.
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TRAs are literally giving each other brownie points for simple shit, such as not saying anything negative in the Don't Hate On This Unfiltered Wholesome Content Facebook page, where's literally against the rules. The bar can't get any lower, or can it?
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The fucking Hontra shirt.
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Just ranting about men and their disgusting porn addiction. My ex had all ten of the symptoms listed here, he convinced me that I was the problem and would accuse me of being a sex addict and bad at sex when I asked why we only had sex every 2 weeks as a couple in their young 20s. Used to be really sexually attentive, ended up doing nothing but demanding blowjobs and me on top once every 2 weeks.
Men are only good for one thing, which is for fucking. When they can’t do that they’re immediately worthless. I won’t stay a week too long with a man that doesn’t fuck me right/enough, let alone 8 fucking years. Christ.
Here’s the list https://www.covenanteyes.com/2015/08/21/10-signs-of-porn-addiction-do-these-describe-your-husband/
Anyone else had a porn addicted ex? I’m too scared to fuck anyone these days for fear they’ll humiliate and degrade me, or it’ll just be shit.
he was always comparing girls (even his own cousin) to pornstars it was so gross and offensive to me. He also accused me of being too insecure and a prude. when I berated him for watching too much porn, it was cause I didn’t have enough sex with him. Our sex life wasn’t horrible, either. (In fact I think it would’ve been perfect, had he not been such an asshole) he didn’t have limp porn peen, and could get it up. He also liked giving me head a lot and fingering me. It was NOT bad at all lol tbh I miss it but I don’t miss him, he was a spoiled emotionally abusive
mommas boy. He liked Milfs and mature ladies a lot too, so it was kinda contrary to the barely legal teen addicted pedoish bfs that I hear other ladies complain about. I was 21 and he was 18 when we dated, so maybe it’s just him being a younger immature male.
I was also FWB with a porn addict, he literally couldn’t even stay hard enough to put it in and asked me to finger his ass and give him head so it would stay up. He also confessed to me that he had fantasized about gay sex so it made me wonder if he couldn’t get it up because he wasn’t turned on by females in general, but idk he said he jerked off as often as he showered (twice a day) so every night I got with him, I played with a gross dead, floppy sausage. That was the first guy’s ass I ate, it wasn’t great. I’d do it for someone I love, but doing it with an acquaintance sucks. I just wanted some dick, and he totally failed me.
I haven't even watched this whole video, but I'm already so annoyed by it, even though she makes a few good points here and there.
She is basically saying that in fantasy novels (well, in novels, but the only examples she gives are shitty fantasy novels, because those are the only books that exist apparently) the way they make "strong female characters" is by making them physically strong and able to beat all the men. She's extremely butthurt by this saying that this isn't the way writer's should make strong female characters because 1) it's insulting to femininity, it's insinuating feminine traits are weak, and 2) says that it's denying biology (even in a fantasy setting) then she lists off biological differences between men and women and why men are more physically strong, she brings up the example of Tamika Brent (a biological woman) and Fallon Fox (a trans "woman") (I might be spelling those names wrong) and how Tamika Brent basically didn't stand a chance and said she [Tamika]"never felt so overpowered". But then right after this she says "I'm not saying Fallon Fox is not a woman". I just…..
Oh yeah, and then after that she goes on an MRA style tangent about how writers are afraid to write "very masculine characters who are also good people" and "if they're very masculine then in many cases they're villainized, and if they're one of the good guys then they're often disempowered because competent masculinity is threatening in some way". She must mean masculine male characters, because if she doesn't, that's a huge contradiction to everything she's already said.
And I'm only 1/3 through this video….
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I’m so sorry. Men as a gender are haram.
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i've been going further back through MatSciMan's profile, a few items of interest in addition to the abortion fetish: He is approximately 29 years old, and yet he looks like this >>492350
He wants to beat his students, and is a "former" incel. He posts on Gender Cynical, probably because he is fully aware that he is a completely textbook agp and terfs hurt his feefees. He posted a straight up sexual fantasy about him getting an abortion. I've only gone back 2 months, god knows what else he's posted.
because that wouldn't be ~~feminine strength~~
oh yeah and then later in the video she said she liked buffy the vampire slayer and that it was okay that buffy was physically stronger than the men because it was fantasy. she did whole ass 180.
I was literally just repeating what she said. I only forgot to mention that Tamika Brent and Fallon Fox were two athletes who fought each other and Fallon Fox won because he's a man. I only realized I did that after it was too late to delete it. I apologize.
Also, no shit? I never defended the 5'3 110lb girl kicking men's asses/Mary Sue trope in shitty YA novels. I was more highlighting the fact that she contradicted herself a shitload of times.
Just point out to your male coworkers/peers that you're smaller and not able to defend yourself the way they can. A lot of men don't consider this, but once you remind them, they're usually more understanding, unless they're creepy weird guys themselves. >>492261>I think he just gets off on the idea that abortions are destroying another man's genetic material and not his.
I was hate reading some incel tumblrs last night, and noticed this exact theme featured pretty prominently in their fantasies. These guys are obsessed with cum. I should've taken screenshots.
Yes I agree. Also forgot to post the vid which prompted me to say that. 2 gay scrotes reacting to homophobic adverts, I agree the adverts are degenerate but I hate how They take any and all opportunities to call women “cunts” or mock their appearance and don’t say shit to insult the men.
Also seen a horrible video Instagram of a gay dude, in high school, about 16, at least 6 ft, repeatedly punching and kicking a very small girl half his size, calling her fat and a cunt and a bitch, while he was cheered on and filmed by other girls.,Why? Because she called him a faggot. Fucking unbelievable. If that was a straight dude people would have reacted as they should, by suspending the piece of shit.
Also I went to art college and the amount of fat ugly gay men there who think they can nitpick women’s appearance to hell and back, but then cry oppression when people do it to them…vexes me so much. I’ve met some nice gay guys but I have zero tolerance for misogynist fags
Finnish anon here. I saw that document today.
I’m not full blown gender critical because I genuinely think that some people can benefit from transitioning.
The trans kids are the issue that made me question the whole trans issue.
In the document they told about the case where kid was taken to custody because her parents questioned her transition. It happened in Eu country but not in Finland but the document didn’t told the exact country.
The another point that made me concerned was the influence of internet trans communities. One kid said that she felt that they were competing in misery: who’s the most trans with the worst mental health problems. She admitted that she learnt the trans narrative from her friends and started really question/think about her gender identitety after her mother expressed concern.
Children shouldn’t make such big decisions when they are still forming their identitety and are prone to influences.
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I hate stumbling upon redpill rants in literally every YouTube comment section, but when they do it with an account tied to their real faces or identities it's even more infuriating. This guy is openly ranting about how women and whiteknights are responsible for ruining the world whilst on his profile he's uploading shitty love songs where a female friend is posting supportive comments. They really don't care about being outed as misogynists.
I found his youtube channel and its so cringy.
Of course its these pure autism men who always have something to say about women
My best friend is a FTM(TIF)/former lesbian who is attracted to women.
Was weird at first but 'he' (pls no sperg, it's just what I'm used to) is really low sex drive and from a conservative family where his mother and grandmother would always forced traditional femininity on him and were homophobic.
After talking to him more and more, I realize that he just wanted to escape those expectations but also the male gaze as it made him uncomfortable….he had some internalized misogyny at first and a natural aversion to anything 'girly' as it seems to have some kind of trauma for him; but we've talked it through and he seems a bit better about it now(at least in public).
But IMO this type is more rare than the fujoshit FTMs(who hate women) and the degenerate AGP types.
Despite their constant whining about how men are stronger and better than, they crumble and cry at being called incels kek how pathetic. Hope his friend sees him like that and drops him. She deserves better>>492527
That thumbnail alone is horrendous. It's always the ugly autistic ones isn't it? But personal grooming and a basic skin care routine is too much from them
*Sanic getting a abortion
*tails walks in
Sanic: "Ohh, Aimee, look! It's tails. Wull… vacuum sucks up a fetus penny
…wull hey there tails. :|"
tails: "HIIIII, SANIC."
For me any hormonal birth control that I tried was like taking depression in pill form, or patch form/nuvaring form. (half a dozen attempts battling through them to find one that suited, none did)
Depressed and suicidal within days, no sex drive and no enjoyment of.. anything at all
It reminds me of this French video where a young man (a good-looking one, but not even androgynous) is dressed in female clothes with a wig and make-up and ends up being catcalled by dozens of men who do not realize they're catcalling a man.
Note that most of the catcallers are immigrants from Africa/Middle East so maybe the more patriarchal a culture is, the worse men are at identifying males and females beyond "gender presentation".
No, it was just a bad quality insta video. Short dumpy dark hair girl vs lanky blonde gay kid. He was really being vicious to her. I mean I wouldn’t call her an innocent victim
but the girl was real small compared to him, I wouldn’t have dreamed of punching and kicking her just for a verbal insult bc she’s smaller than me but not by much
just dont talk to it.
maybe one day it will realize how fucking dumb that is good luck
>>492760>Female friend who has never presented as anything else but feminine and has never lusted after nothing but male dick is now identifying as nonbinary and pansexual and is triggered over muh misgendering despite being an obvious fucking woman
It's like we've already reached the behavioral sink and are heading for the final collapse that will send us to back to the middle ages.
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that doesn't even make sense
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I've been watching the Handball World Championships lately and noted that Hannah Mouncey wasn't part of the team even though he helped them qualify.
Apparently there women on his team and their manager didn't want Hannah to shower and change in the same areas as them.https://www.starobserver.com.au/opinion/people-will-do-whats-easy-over-whats-right-hannah-mouncey-speaks-out/190555
>Yes, I would be playing in a World Championship right now if I had given in and accepted the quite frankly ludicrous requests made by the team manager both on his own behalf and those players he represented.
So he wasn't denied, just offered another solution, it seems. Obviously handball wasn't a big passion of his, since he obviously let a petty shower situation stand in the way of him being on the World Championship team. Kek.
I was trying to understand what she meant.>>492843
Yeah sure, but the men that typically suffer in wars are no the men that caused these problems. The sexes are not some gestalt consciousness. Also, women head of states have also started wars you know.
>>492803>he gets more attention when he’s not being a creep.
Only if everyone around him ignores it and if he stays away from online TRAs. The mix of angry looks from confused old people and forced compliments from well-meaning women who don't want to be seen as transphobic probably gives average men the most attention they have ever had in their lives. Instead of being a slob they are suddenly brave and stunning for wearing a pink hairclip. They get to be a minority and finally have a cause to rally against on Twitter and if they want to talk about their day everyone has to shut up and listen to their trans lived experience.
To say that these kinds of trans people have any shared experiences with the those who live in countries where being trans is a crime punishable by death is a farce.
>>492845>womenz also start wars
Yeah, in one out of a gazillion cases…
Plus the majority of men are still pro weapons, fighting etc. (just look at all the men glorifying history and the military or guys who are obsessed with shooting games), so it's not like most of them are unwilling - at least at first not, until they realize how horrible war really is.
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Trannies are so feeble they need 100% validation from everyone around, including dogs and children, so even 1 person not kissing their ass is enough to set them off on a rampage. >>492841
I like how about 70% of his replies on twitter are calling him out or ripping on him, and the 30% kissing his ass are being ridiculed. A lot of suspended accounts though, twitter for sure has a tranny admin or two.
“People will do what’s easy over what’s right” yeah like pandering to trannies delusions so you don’t have to put up with vandalism, slander and violence.
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His twitter is basically just more evidence as to why he made his teammates uncomfortable.
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what a weirdo
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I mean, I am not saying most men are not retards, I am saying that I still feel bad about the ones drafted into wars that they did not start. And come on now, shooting games are just games. As for most men being into violence, I legit think this is an issue of socialization. Society training them to become soldiers, more meat for the meatgrinder. If men were socialised without that expectation I legit think a ton of things would improve with them and for them.
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Of course he end the article by presenting himself as a future martyr with those grossly manipulated and exploitative statistics! Not letting him crush small women and swing his dong in the locker room is equivalent to teen suicide or murdering a South American male prostitute.
>>492869>As for most men being into violence, I legit think this is an issue of socialization. Society training them to become soldiers, more meat for the meatgrinder. If men were socialised…>muh SoCIetY
Anon, it's men! Men are at fault for other men dying, they are the ones who kill each other - and women and children too. They are the ones who train each other to be aggressive and violent against each other and us, so don't act as if "society" is some mysterious untouchable godlike power from above that nobody can control. It's up to themselves to change their ways.
Plus no european or american or other first world guy is raised with the "expectation" of becoming a soldier. They are interested in that and keep talking about because they love the idea of it. They glorify war times and why? "Because back then men were allowed to be "real" men, they were heroic, not like all those useless females, because we
died fighting for you!".
And I've never heard of a single war without rape. If men actually don't even want to fight, if they're only innocent little puppets for the male AND FEMALE leaders who start wars, then why do they keep doing that?
>>492889>males regress to rape when their morality breaks down, which is what happens during war
What a pathetic excuse. >this is a massive burden in their socialization and one of the main reasons they become as damaged as they end up
Are you unironically claiming that 1 year of military service (in europe!) is the main cause of all the fucked up things men do?
Even if that was the case (it's not), still not my fault, not your fault (no matter what your "traumatized" brother might tell you), not any woman's fault. It's up to themselves to fix the shit they caused.
I am not using it as an excuse anon, I am telling you what I think is the cause. When things like killing are glorified, morality goes out of the damn window, hell infants are killed during war.
Also no, I am not saying that 1 year is the reason, it's the socialization that centers around them being conscripted in times of danger. Not that this conscription itself is not pretty terrible for a lot of them, I know it is, I have heard plenty of stories and they are not pleasant. Of course it is not our fault, but my point is that it is not their fault either. They did not create that system, they are the victims
of it. Generational guilt is not something I believe in. Also please do not show contempt about people's trauma, conscription can absolutely be traumatic.
Jesus christ Anon. And twice. Men are deceptive little buggars (literally)
If any man loves ass that much, he should date men
instead of forcing women to dote on assholes (in more ways than one)
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Man kills his 6-month old baby by regularly beating it.
His excuse is he wanted it to be "tough" but it just sounds like a 'tarded male that never should have been left unsupervised with a child. https://www.kansas.com/news/local/crime/article238190494.html
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>>492447>He wanted me to give him intense prostate orgasms with his 12 inch stained jelly dongs. And the icing on top is he didn't believe in enemas or cleaning because 'a little mess is just to be expected'
that is fucking foul, i am so sorry. rule number 1 of butt stuff is you have to keep yourself and your toys clean. dude probably had a scat fetish.
That's the first time I ever witnessed somebody caping this hard for her brother
If growing up with the knowledge that you have to conscript is "traumatic" to men, then so is knowing that literally every man could rape or beat you to death if he randomly decided to do so. Strange that nevertheless the average woman still doesn't act degenerate or turn violent herself…
Again, I am talking about all the socialization surrounding that expectation, not the conscription itself, without minimizing concscription's effect. I am not caping for him, I am telling you about it, are you suggesting supporting your brother and calling out the unfair things happening to them is caping? Also, you are comparing being the victim
of a crime to literal laws, these are two completely different things.
Molymeme has a really gross breeding fetish but I'm generally grossed out when men talk about women like that as if their own sperm isn't degrading badly at 35+ but then also you get shit like this >>492914
yet women should still have babies? Even if more often men don't want them. And if she ever leaves or if the man bails because he doesn't want kids anymore, she's condemned forever as a single mom.
I really hope his daughter escapes with her sanity
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Merriam Webster has announced its word of the year.
>English famously lacks a gender-neutral singular pronoun to correspond neatly with singular pronouns like everyone or someone, and as a consequence they has been used for this purpose for over 600 years.
>More recently, though, they has also been used to refer to one person whose gender identity is nonbinary.
>Congresswoman Pramila Jayapal (WA) revealed in April during a House Judiciary Committee hearing on the Equality Act that her child is gender-nonconforming and uses they. Singer Sam Smith announced in September that they now use they and them as pronouns.https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/word-of-the-year/they
His wife got in trouble too a while back https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/toronto/therapist-who-told-podcast-listeners-to-shun-their-families-reprimanded/article4846791/
Idk how old she is but I'm assuming roughly the same? Early 50s? Meaning if his daughter is like 11-12, they had her when they were in their late 30s/early 40s. But like everything else in molymeme's life, it's do as I say not do as I do. Kek
This poor daughter though. . Best she can do is do what they preach and cut all contact with her fucked up parents when she gets older.
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All good points, but this one's not as clear cut as you're making it out to be. Ancient Romans (the Romans who predated the late Republic and Empire) also had some fairly progressive laws and beliefs for their time. Archaic Roman Law allowed wives to divorce their husbands if they laid hands on them, and Cato the Elder (an arch-conservative by Roman standards) believed it was more important to be a decent husband than a decent statesman.
Ancient Greece was more regressive, but even then it's pretty unique if you read things like the Homeric Hymns in its treatment of women, and monogamy was firmly embedded as an ideal (if not always practiced well) well before Christianity. And in spite of the damage Christianity did to native faiths in Italy, Greece, the Nordics, Baltics etc, Medieval Europe still allowed de facto divorce, had all-female Guilds and so on.
Not to say it has been perfect, but Europe has always been a better place to be a woman than places like Ancient China, India and the Semitic Civilizations. Even thousands of years ago. And really, it shows today. That's why I laugh at "White Nationalists" who bemoan progressive, feminist views as something novel that cuts against the grain of western civilization. Treating women better than elsewhere is 100% in keeping with western civilization.
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this really breaks my heart. i feel so alone as a lesbian
Speaking as someone brought up in a country with military service, most men really do believe themselves to be expendable and worth less than women on a biological level.
I'm NTA but I think you're being very cruel. A lot of men went to war, regardless of the real reasons, believing they were protecting their families: mothers, sisters, wives, daughters etc. They died in hellish, miserable ways, screaming out for their mothers in the middle of some muddy field like Passchendale or some arid environment like Gallipoli, their intestines spilling out. Many of them little older than 18. In some cases in World War 1, boys as young as 15 (thousands in fact) were fighting and dying because the various Ministries of Wars across Europe turned a blind eye to their age to have more meat for the meat grinder.
How you can't look at that with any empathy baffles me.
>>492978>also i'd say comparing like european peasants forced to participate in ww1 to american soyboys who choose to enlist bc murrica and guns and are elated to murder civilians and rape afganistanian women isn't the same is it?
Agreed, but those peasants were not forced to sign up, when conscription was introduced in Britain for example, the majority of the available male manpower had already signed up. Those 15 year old boys eagerly lined up at recruiting offices.
I'd also argue a lot of Americans after 9/11 signed up out of a genuine sense of love for their country.
We're talking "visual". Its not like they're concerned about faces and details, just tiddies and ass. Men are pretty blind to a lot of the makeup, Photoshop and other aesthetic things woman do. So they see something, they like it, boom they're good. There is no mountain to climb.
Woman on the other hand, usually need some kinda foreplay. Its mental, reading a good erotic novel or thinking about intimate things can get a woman going. Gotta do some work for a woman's sexuality, I feel. Climb that mountain.
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Women are just as visual as men, our sexuality is just persecuted. Of course women aren’t considered to be visual when the female gaze is never catered to in the mainstream, even the mundane is heavily filtered through the male gaze
Women are still visual though… I find my bf way more attractive and I get turned on faster when he takes good care of himself (ie. good grooming, working out, etc) and dresses well. There is no doubt women need foreplay, but maybe men could cut down the amount by a lot if they just tried to put in the effort into looking appealing
>Its mental, reading a good erotic novel or thinking about intimate things can get a woman going
This is more of a personal thing, but a lot of the time I read stories or fantasize precisely because I'm picky about visuals. Especially in porn, a lot of the time it just looks unappealing
Of course woman are visual, but when I've talked to men about sexuality its so much more different than myself and other woman I've known. I would say if you were to dumb it down men are more about visuals. Like in a discord I'm a regular in, the guys just post lewd anime girls all day. Like, there is a specific channel dedicated to just lewd anime.
At least personally, I don't get it. I'm not into visual pornography so I guess I have a bias. Maybe its more from my own experience. I'll be into it and ready, but its not just "I have a boner let's go". Everyone is an individual when it comes down to it, I understand. But if we're going to generalize, I can understand men as the "visual sex".
Visual and mental both play into it, I'd think with woman. I mean, maybe its just me, but if you look at just a penis, is that enough to get aroused? If I knew more about the dick, than hey let's talk, I might be into it. >>493027>This is more of a personal thing, but a lot of the time I read stories or fantasize precisely because I'm picky about visuals. Especially in porn, a lot of the time it just looks unappealing.
I agree with this, its probably one of the reasons I've never liked visual pornography. Its pretty male focused I find.
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I identify as Trans-George Washington myself
Does this pick me shit work or do men still ignore you and/or talk shit?>>492920
Men are worth less than women. Once again, why are you bitching at WOMEN about a draft that MEN control and decide when and how to enforce? Why do WOMEN have to have sympathy for men sending his fellow man to die, especially when part of that process is inevitably the rape and murder of her sisters? Do people like you think women have fun during war and don't suffer at all? >>492982
your perspective is better shared on reddit, not a feminist space, since your only concerns seem to be for scrotes.
men never sit around and talk about how they pity women for rape but we have to do it for men in the one space thats meant to be for discussion based on women. >>493077
being male stops u being a feminist not ur beliefs
some radfems have this tendency to view all forms of male oppression as equal which has many problematic
excuse you it's the good soldiers we are pitying here, not the civilians that got in the way of all the cool explosions and shit.
Anyone that wants to "QQ poor males" about war google "comfort women" and sit your fucking asses down.
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In reply to a woman who's neighbor left their kid behind at home. The kid knocked on the OPs door and she drove her to school.
Where do men even get this mindset from? It makes me think they have a guilty conscience. Imagine not helping a kid because you're scared she would just randomly accused you of molesting her lmao. What are you hiding…
The serial killer Richard Ramirez was shown pictures as a child by his Vietnam soldier uncle or whatever of the shit he used to do to women over there. Soldiers don't just rape and kill, they torture and mutilate for fun.
Look at all the private security companies America deploys in the middle east. There's a bunch of rape accusations from American women against them, imagine the scale of attacks on middle eastern women who have no avenues to report.
And the thing is yeah, not all men take part but you damn well know they are aware it's happening and go along with it/ shut up about it for an easier life. And women are meant to empathize? I don't understand.
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Imagine blaming feminism because the world isn't catered to you. Who let men become this entitled?
I used to work at walmart and this is in the WOMEN'S clothing section. That poster isnt for you, dude.
Even I didn't realize men are so entitled that they think literally every picture of a woman has to give them a boner.
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I hate that suicide-baiting is such a common rhetorical tool among TRAs, to the point where even kids who aren't suicidal will threaten to neck themselves so their parents will give them titty skittles. There are literally guides out there (I think they were posted in the Fakeboi thread at some point) from Tumblr telling teenagers what to say to psychiatrists to get hormones, and they emphasize particularly on the suicide-baiting.
Troons get so fucking triggered
when we bring up the 41% thing, but they literally enable suicidal ideation as part of the transitioning process. There are several studies out there saying that GRC doesn't reduce someone's likelihood of suicide, so why do TRAs keep telling people that if someone can't transition they'll die? They're literally teaching kids to emotionally blackmail their parents.
I'm not trying to blame that teenage boy. Like yeah what he was doing was fucked up and manipulative, but having to go to a foreign country for a mastectomy is a pretty big punishment for that. I also don't necessarily blame the mom, either, because imagine being in her position: imagine that your son is (wrongfully) diagnosed with a condition you don't understand, and that he and everything you read online tells you that if you don't buy him estrogen he'll kill himself. You guys can't blame someone for being misinformed if TRAs have gone out of their way to try and wipe any dissenting science from Google results.
I posted this story on KF already, but I have a close friend who attends an Ivy League medical school in the United States. During his psychology rotation, he had to shadow a psychiatrist seeing a mom and her son about a gender dysphoria consultation. The mom was some sort of doctor– either pediatrician or family medicine– and she was really against putting her son on horse pills, because she's a fucking scientist and obviously knows the consequences. But the kid and the psychiatrist wouldn't budge (and I think even brought up the suicide crap), and they managed to wear the poor woman down until she allowed her son to start hormone blockers. Hormone blockers! Which are even more dangerous than horse pills! This clown fuckery wasn't happening at some podunk independent psychiatry practice. This was happening at a hospital associated with an Ivy League medical school! In the United States.
I was completely appalled when my friend told me this on the phone, and he half-agreed with me, particularly on the grounds that the kid's mother was a doctor and she had doubts.
His Twitter your typical anti feminism, pro traditional roles, pro life conservative too. yet is very anti porn. But not anti porn because it hurts millions of women across the globe but because men
are the victims
well if you got drafted to fight nazis then in the end you were also fighting for possibly sending your friends and family to a gulag in Siberia so like it isn't exactly an obvious "win" situation. like my family had to constantly move around for 20 years following this because the other brother got drafted with germans and thus our family was labelled as nazi sympathizers despite also contributing to Russian army and no one shacking up with nazis willingly. being in eastern Europe is always a lose-lose situation lol>>493073
0 sympathy for willing soldiers (even if abloobloo free college!1! argument), some sympathy for ones forcefully drafted or underage, ones that suffer exponentially the most are women and children anyway and those are the ones I'm primarily concerned about, probably should've refrained replying to the scrote in the 1st place lol.
children say really dumb stuff, like when I was that age I told my mom I wanted to marry my brother.
Kids don't understand the world enough to make life decisions. Except, apparently, when it comes to suddenly getting fast tracked for hormones
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He has to be a troll, r-right?
I wish Taylor did some research or that somebody helped her mock him for living the exact opposite of what he preaches. It seems like nobody seems to know that he's actually an old af stay at home dad with a career wife.
>>493073>Men are worth less than women.
How the FUCK do you even begin believing people's lives are worth more or less based on their sex? This is the most extreme sexist belief imaginable.
>the rape and murder of her sisters
Retarded opinion, the Soviet women cheered the men who raped German women and often were the ones who tortured and murdered them after the men were done with the raping. There is no such thing as a sisterhood moron, men and women are a lot more connected based on national bonds than gender ones.(bait)
Why does this grown ass man with kids and a wife care so much if a pop singer (or other women for that matter) has kids or not? I thought libertarians were supposed to have a "live and let live" mentality. >>493154
Yeah Stefan, because saying women are more than incubators = convincing women to reject motherhood. Obviously.
No, because Israelis don't parade around Europe and act aggressive towards immigrants, nor do they shoot up mosques like Nazis and far-right groupes do. I don't support the Israeli state but come on now.>>493081
Poland was literally occupied by Nazi Germany and the Polish government fights hard to stop erasure of Nazi crimes or shift blame to Poland by calling them "Polish concentration camps", what are you even talking about. It also brings a lot of money in thanks to WW2 tourism so it's against their best interest to deny any crimes committed by Nazis.
If you want something to be mad about, be mad about the Croatian government refusing to admit that they used to be a genocidal Nazi state to this day and denying the existence of concentration camps like Jasenovac. And read a book or something, you sound American.
>>493167>because Israelis don't parade around Europe and act aggressive towards immigrants>Israelis>don't act aggressive towards immigrants
You're completely delusional. Israel has some of the harshest anti immigrant laws on the planet, and there's plenty of Jewish mob violence against both Palestinians and refugees there.
Jews really need to stop acting like they're some absolute point of moral authority, srsly. You're just an ethnicity like any other, nothing special or chosen about you.
I meant in Europe, though. I've yet to see a violent protest of Israelis, or Israelis being violent towards refugees. If anything, antisemitism is on the rise.
Also how does Israel have anti-immigrant laws when you can literally declare yourself a citizen in writing or simply convert to Judaism and get a passport? If anything it's overly permissive. My neighbours are Greek Orthodox Christians and they got citizenship because their country took in a lot of Jews during WW2 and they had good diplomatic relations.
If you'd made an argument about Palestinians being treated like dirt or the IDF being corrupt and breaking all the human rights laws that exist I'd 100% agree with you but you clearly don't even know what you're talking about and seem to just want to shit on Jews.
I think we're forgetting he probably earns a viable income from his online activities alone. He has a ton of subscribers etc.
His daughter seems adorable though.
he wants his daughter to grow up to become a great revolutionary philosopher or intellectual but he also says bullshit about how all women should be traditional housewives
How does that work ?
Why? All this shows to me is that men are aware and concerned that we can no longer be forced to marry and have children young/against our will.
Throwing tantrums like toddlers, hahaha
You are not alone. I'm bisexual myself and many of my friends in my community, both male and female, recognize what this "trans" insanity is doing to you. We are appalled. Recently a male bisexual friend of mine while we were doing some research for our community, brought up his fear that this trans agenda is going to force lesbians to go though some sort of conversion therapy, that they will be invalidated and accused of hate crimes based on sexual preferences. Many bisexuals I know stand with lesbians. These last few years things have been going from bad to worse for you guys… I'm so sorry.
Personally, I had a busted tranny tell me that "she" is every bisexual's wet dream and that I should date "her". I told him off saying I'm attracted to ultra feminine females and very tall, handsome, confidant, successful alpha males. His unholy anime fetishist representation of a hermaphrodite was not, in fact, my wet dream.
I don't know why I attract 'tgirls' and crossdressers but I seem to, the pushy kind too! I was pretty young when I had my first incidence of a man coming out to me as a crossdresser and the next thing I knew he tried to push himself on me. Any TIM I've met in the years since then has also tried it on with me
I'm attracted to men, women and even some ftms (probably cos I love butch women and in my head I see them as that) The one group that I don't want is the one that's convinced I'll be receptive to their advances. Where do they get their confidence from?
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Finland just got the youngest PM in the world, Sanna Marin, who also happens to be a very left leaning Social Democrat, the only person in her family to finish high school and get a university degree. She's daughter of a single mother who was in a lesbian relationship when Sanna was younger. She's also herself the mother of a 22 month old. The entire coalition is led by female leaders, the female ministers outnumber the male ones. Seeing triggered scrotes crying over this has been fucking amazing, they're all convinced we're going to hell in a handbasket, Finland is doomed to be overrun by the LGBT feminist communist Islamist agenda, "they're Finnished" (scrots think they're sooo hilarious repeating the same kindergarten level reddit puns), blah blah. Sure, having 80 yo senile men who don't even know how to type an email on a computer run your country is so much better. Fucking kek, stay triggered, pissbabies.
Another finnfag here and in my opinion our new government is a pile of horse manure regardless of their gender. I don't trust any of these snakes from SDP or KePu at all, but the scrotes having a fit simply because the majority of them are women is laughable. They could at least trash them for dirty tricks such as letting Paatero and Haavisto keep their positions despite the recent scandals, but picking the m-muh feminist boogeyman and running with it only highlights their inherent retardation.
However I'm only hoping that they won't be validating the initiative to allow transitioning for minors that's been floating around recently. Please let that YLE detransitioner documentary become a mainstream subject.
is probably correct that they're all libfems and are probably going to end up changing the trans laws, but I still love watching men's terrified screeching about women being in power. It's so fucking hilarious seeing how incredibly insecure they are.
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I wounder how they'd react to the Iron lady
"do as I say don't do as I do!"
It's ok that he gets a professional career wife who had children later in life but other
women should be shamed. I definitely think he does this shit >>493158
often. Posing as women online to convince impressionable girls that other women are accepting his fucked up world views. I think men do this alot. Like we know redpillwomen is filled with men larping as self hating women. I honestly wish someone would do a little experiment like how r/teenagers was exposed for being filled with old men in their 30s/40s/50s on rpw.>>493272
It's funny to watch them whine about how society will collapse from this. So many incels and mgtows talk about wanting it to happen because power fantasy. It's just pathetic kek
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Thoughts on these skull sizes?
I too suffered narcissistic abuse by women in the family while my father was always the "nice parent". I encountered mean girls in school too and men were always nicer to me for being conventionally non-busted. Still, none of that got in the way of me realizing that those terrible women still suffer under patriarchy. In fact, a lot of my bad experiences were with pick-me's who still deal with abuse from men, they're even more likely to be abused. Seeing those women's level of cope just makes me pity them.
It's not as if you are required to carry unconditional love for every female on the street to be a feminist lol that's certainly not the case for bitches on lolcow.
It means he's successful while also working from home. It's not like donations, book sales, sold out speeches, etc, pay nothing. Even if the both of them did absolutely nothing they'd still be living comfortably off of what he made from selling his last tech company. Especially considering they put most of it into bitcoin before anyone else had heard of it. >>493189
See above. What he espouses for both sexes is working to afford a family, Not putting your work ahead one. In part this is because the best to transmit the ideas that you care about to future generations is to be responsible for raising those generations yourself. But then it's also because he's absolutely paranoid about ending up alone and isolated when he's 80. Him projecting his own insecurities onto others.
Sage for 3 day late reply but god I hate Roly. In this video he interviews Toxic
Tears (who is discussed in the alt cows thread) and she tells a story of her and her friends when they were young teenagers and a group of GROWN MEN attacked them and attempted to rip their piercings out. After that Roly says he's scared of little kids because they would stare say things like "mommy what's that on his face". He comes off as such a narc.
I don't mean that I want to be convinced to, idk, take him back–when I say perspectives, I mean I feel like I'm angry and I want writers who are better with words than I am to say "yes, and you should be, here's more insight into why men do this and why it sucks" without any kind of kowtowing libfem bs. I want writing about this the way I felt uncomfortable w/ non-binary identities and then really benefitted from radfem perspectives on why they were internalized misogyny.
That said, I appreciate your anger on my behalf! I'm asking for stuff b/c I read you saying "he put his dick and not being reminded of responsibilities over committment" and I feel immediately better, saner, and more resolved to keep going forward.
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Hes definitely afraid of aging. Idk about dying alone since his wife I heard felt bad for him
when he was worried about his image on how he almost got her fired for eavesdropping on her patients sessions.
But he loves company since he's miserable. Since alot of incels, mgtows and general red pillers all are trying to convince themselves that they'll be all dashing handsome wealthy silver foxes later in life though, and not balding, with a beer belly, old sperm and a barely functioning penis due to porn addiction. They'll say they're wealthy but it only attracts shallow opportunists. So they'll be right back to complaining about how all women are gold diggers.
I haven't heard stefans opinion on couples that adopt either. It's probably poor
All you need to ask yourself is would you have done the same to him. Then ask yourself why not. Then realize he ignored all of that before he did it.
Men are raised to prioritize their feelings and emotions. Women are raised to prioritize male emotions. That's why there's a slap fight here every few weeks about male soldiers etc. Women empathize. How many times do men sit around and discuss womens issues? They don't. In fact they get so annoyed by womens issues they will actively be hostile to women for bringing them up.
He wanted to fuck someone so he did. Now he wants to be with you and feels bad. He is relying on the fact you will ignore your own emotions and feelings and listen to him when he could have just as easily ignored his dumb ass feelings that led to him cheating on you.
If you go back you will be tied to a low value male for the rest of your days. You might have his babies that will carry his poor genetic material. He absolutely, 100% will cheat on you again because he's figured how to be more careful/make you forgive him. You'll never trust him again, you'll question if he wants to fuck every attractive woman you come across. You're worth more than that.
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Thoughts on Derrick Jensen ? he's a male that even some of the most extreme manhating radfems somewhat like(thoughts on fucking off ?)
Yeah I know that, those are the real refugees who were actually fleeing conflict, so they went to the nearest safe abode. >>493562
Proof of this for Europe?
Cute links. Wikipedia lmao. Here's some actual data. You're wrong. Males outnumber women or they're closely matched by a few %.https://stats.oecd.org/Index.aspx?DataSetCode=DIOC_SEX_AGE
Any male refugee attempting to enter any country should be question as to where the female members of his family are. A lot of them say they're going to bring them over later and never do. They leave them in dangerous conditions as single women and fuck off to Europe for a new life.
In the UK there's been an influx of young girls being forced to marry old men from other countries to get them citizenship. When they get the citizenship they leave them, or they stay with them and treat them exactly how you imagine.
I'm at the point of thinking all single male refugees should be turned away.
That doesn't state males outnumber women, anon, kek. Not sure who shat in your cereal, but this "All immigrants are MEN" thing is both corny and inaccurate.
Maybe if you had argued that men being allowed to immigrate is a problem to begin with instead of trying to erase women being immigrants as well (and they are usually in that position because they're victims
of violent situations they were placed in by men), you’d be off on a better foot.
I'm not American or libfem, and there are immigrants in my country. I'm technically an immigrant, even.
There are people on imageboards from countries that aren't part of North America and Europe, you know.>>493608
How do I sound like a tranny? This is getting cringy. Women who aren't from your country are the same as men dressing up like women now? Please.
"Everyone", as in 2-3 people, one of which admitted that even if women don't overwhelm men, they're at a close %? >No one is erasing immigrant women by pointing out there are far too many males coming over from countries their maleness keeps them relatively safe in compared to women/children.
This is true. The problem is, no one said that. Instead, the argument was about immigrants as a whole. You can go back and read the posts if you feel like it.
Immigrants are not equal to asylum seekers, and are also not 100% male. Calm down already.
"n-no anon. It's you that needs to calm down!!"
Literally no one said they're 100% male at any point yet you're accusing others of not reading?
Yeah, I'm totally the one getting worked up over nothing.
Anyway, I hope you learn to express your opinions better so you're not forced to backpedal.
You just admitted >>493616
that according to >>493578
you were wrong and women don't overwhelm men. But sure, it's other people that are backpedaling.
The fact of the matter is there's no reason mens numbers should come even close to womens. They are not in as much danger and can provide for themselves. They can stay their asses home.
The very post you linked to admits they're at a close rate, and every other source online attests to women making up slightly more, especially as workers. I'm not even sure if you're serious anymore, it's like you just want to drag this out to save face.>The fact of the matter is there's no reason mens numbers should come even close to womens. They are not in as much danger and can provide for themselves. They can stay their asses home.
And no one is arguing with this.
Did you read the conversation before posting?
It's typically libfem redditors who are this bad at following discussions and jump to retarded conclusions, so maybe you should head back there.
This is partly why I used to have problems getting close to other girls growing up. I felt so awkward, because it's like if you're not playing along, you're making the whole interaction uncomfortable, and no one really knows what to do. Luckily, I wasn't one of those retarded "I only hang out with guys because girls are drama!!" people, just awkward.
Have you seen that video of two women talking to each other, and the moment one speaks in a higher voice, the other speaks in an even higher one until they both sound ridiculous?
That's how it feels. If you try to meet them halfway, it eventually just gets worse and more taxing for both of you.
I don't even think it's that bad to put up an act if it helps smooth social interactions with men. You do what you must to get through things. When it's something you do all the time, though, it's just exhausting and feels coldly sterile.
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with his twin brother lol. It seems like he had a bunch of surgery after he landed a role on Supergirl for taking his desire to be in women's bathrooms to the supreme court. Typical attention whore tranny.
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NTA, but she was right, and you know it.
Their fixation with us being lesser stems directly from their own weird complex about not being able to give birth and continue the human race. You don't think about, say, cockroaches day in, day out, try to find out where they hang out, get angry about what they might think and obsess over teaching them "their place", do you?
They even call themselves the throwaway sex when they're trying to guilt-trip or paint themselves as victims
No matter what they might say about being unbothered, they're envious of women, because we actually carry the ability to continue the human race (and we're overall less unstable and deficient than they are).
That's why freaks like Molymeme make posts like >>492860
. Why is this old-ass man thinking about Taylor Swift's fertility and "her eggs already being gone"? Why are so many men in general so fascinated with the idea of women hitting "the wall" and suffering, all because we didn't give their unwashed dicks a chance?
But why? It's not like any of it is good attention. Men get attention for good reasons - like their accomplishments or who they are as people. Women get attention like being mocked, made the butt of every joke, harassed, dehumanized, etc.
Who the fuck would possibly want that? Being a woman is the absolute worst thing you can be and deep down they know that, which is why they are so happy they aren't women.
They see the infantilization as a good thing. They already failed at being something to be respected and their misogyny makes them feel like as a woman they have an excuse for being incompetent because women, amirite?
They've been socialized male and view sexual attention - harassment or consensual - as a mark of success. It's why incels bitch about how easy women have it, because they think sex is the biggest achievement.
The very reasons why they're jealous of women and want to be them are the same things that mark them as born male and doomed to forever be male. They can't even get the worldview right.
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this is a male who's been on hormone blockers since probably his early teens, if not earlier, given this line on his wikipedia page:
>Maines was Susan Doe in the landmark case Doe v. Regional School Unit 26, which is also referred to as Doe v. Clenchy. When Maines was in elementary school, the grandfather of a classmate complained about Maines using the girls' washroom.
and that's exactly what he looks like – a guy that hasn't gone through puberty. congratulations on looking like a middle schooler that grew his hair out and decided to start skateboarding for the upcoming eighth grade school year.
are people simply no longer allowed to simply be gender non-conforming? MUST people be trans because they enjoy styling themselves a certain way? god forbid if you're gay and meander from gender stereotypes even a bit; you might as well bust out a hacksaw and lob off your genitals, then proudly proclaim how proud you are to be trans (and now conveniently and palatably straight).
So men want to be women while women are labeled as "cis" like an inverse of how there's women and trans women. They seriously despise women yet want to be us so damn badly.
>women who were born women don't understand what women hood is or about :)
They keep losing public support from saying retarded shit like this. They're drugged up mentally men that sterilize themselves. We're gonna look back at this era with embarrassment
Oh nice. Let a rapist male tell women that they're not "actual" women and applaud the intense wokeness. Honestly, imagine someone saying this about race. "Transracial caucasian people have to reconcile with being black while native black people are just born into it".
It's sad how they rarely even try to hide their misogyny anymore. Reminds me of that one insane Finnish female TRA who actually tweeted something like "Cis women are so fucking retarded". That comedian who made a joke about being able to say sexist shit if you only add "white" in front of "women" was being too real, only now the prefix is "cis".
Same, anon. The only true crime content I want to look at anymore is by women, but anywhere to discuss online has become totally annoying cause of all the victim
Lmao. No, they're just mad that women aren't objects and walking wombs to buy/sell anymore. If this is an actual issue, it's one created by men's own hubris, lack of empathy and incompetence. It's not up to women to lower their standards.
The men who aren't getting bred with are not
the "best and brightest", and if the "best and brightest" women want nothing to do with men, that's on the men to improve. Men in general are just shit and an emotional/mental/financial/physical drain, and more women are waking up to it, meaning that more often, it'll be women who are forced into things that will end up putting up with them. >He already has a wife, and already has a kid, but the thing is future grandkids haven't. They might not even have a choice if the only women that are having kids now are the ones that outright forced to, by the men that outright force them.
I definitely have no reason to believe Stefan Molyneux's future grandkids would end up marrying and procreating with Taylor Swift's hypothetical grandkids, so there's no excuse for the nastiness and entitlement he launches at her (and at other women who are on a completely different level from himself). He's not even close
to her in accomplishments or talent, so from where is he talking? What are the actual "best and brightest" males saying, and are they truly even alone? Because pretty much all of these manosphere guys who yell about "muh wall" all day are bottom of the barrel.
It's also interesting that you speak of force, as if it's completely separate from what Molyneux and other random men are attempting when they screech about women not having kids, but you're defending a mediocre man's try at psychologically manipulating and/or humiliating a woman on a higher social level than himself into having children. If she were to bend to that, she would, in fact, be "outright forced". > e really doesn't want his future grandkids to be forced into anything so he really want the Captains to think about where they're headed.
If he doesn't want his future grandkids to be forced, he should be talking to his fellow scrotes and convincing them to not try to force women (and to raise their own grandkids to not be forceful, as well).
This tbh. Even news channels on YouTube have been raided by victim
blamers who will refuse to ever blame a man for murdering or raping women. I've even seen little girls get blamed. Disgusting the lengths men will go to in order to blame women and girls for getting raped and killed
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>this is what mgtows actually believe happen to unmarried men
They left out the parts about how the prince died alone of syphilis after running out of money and being too old and ugly for girls to want to fuck him anymore. His siblings and friends found him pathetic but never said it to his face because they knew he had a fragile ego.
The princess just found someone else to marry who actually respected her as a human being and enjoyed her companionship. They stuck together as they got older and couldn't get it up anymore because their love was based on compatibility, not sex. When they died, they were surrounded by their children and grandchildren. Also they still had power tools, because that's a normal thing all households have and not just a guy thing?
Honestly, let them think that. They can do their own thing, they just need to leave women alone.
What's funny is that even this MGTOW fantasy requires dating women and having sex with them. They genuinely cannot conceive an existence without women at their sides, but they still can't get it into their thick skulls to actually treat us like human beings.
You don't need to breed with Stef. You just need to breed with someone. Do so and you'll transmit all your reasoning, will, and empathy to future generations. Fail to do so and billions of girls will suffer for a lack of it.
>He's not even close to her in accomplishments or talent, so from where is he talking?
1 kid is more than 0 kids, so Stef is more successful by about the only metric that counts for shit in the long run.
>pretty much all of these manosphere guys who yell about "muh wall" all day are bottom of the barrel.
Nah, it's mostly just poor and ugly guys that whinge a lot. The real bottom of the barrel guys are the predators and rapists that are still getting laid just fine. They intentionally target whoever is the most vulnerable and desperate, and in so doing produce even more desperate daughters and even more brutal sons. Evil never stops reproducing, so Good can't ever stop either.
>If he doesn't want his future grandkids to be forced, he should be talking to his fellow scrotes and convincing them to not try to force women (and to raise their own grandkids to not be forceful, as well).
Sure, he can do that as well, and in fact he often does, but that adults are roughly a million times harder to influence than children is the entire point of shaping folk from scratch.
Evil and good are not inherited, they are taught and normalized. The former is taught by societies that blame women for men's actions, and perpetuate the notion that women exist as broodmares and sex objects (aka the kind of society Molyneux encourages).
The way to make the world good is to change society as a whole, not have shitloads of kids with garbage men who just want to get it in (and will turn into the very predators and rapists you're talking about, if they aren't already - they sure do love to defend their actions), change nothing and hope they'll just turn out good.
>>493915>Evil and good are not inherited, they are taught and normalized.
So what does that change about the premise then? Daughters still learn from mothers, and more often than not, end up like their mothers. Sons still learn from fathers, and more often than not, end up like their fathers. Socialization by media, schooling, religion, internet peers, etc, is like molehills to a mountain compared to the socialization by mothers, fathers, and siblings.
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Why are you white knighting for Stefan mouldynuts so hard, nobody cares about some talentless, hypocritical loser with a breeding fetish and a crush on Taylor swift. Besides number of children does not correlate with success, only idiots say that as a means of cope for their lack of prospects. As you can see from pic related he’s just another retarded boomer screeching into the void,
>>493922>Socialization by media, schooling, religion, internet peers, etc, is like molehills to a mountain compared to the socialization by mothers, fathers, and siblings.
This is a lie, and anyone who's observed kids growing up and ending up completely different from their parents because of their surroundings/friends/interests outside of their parents, or even experienced it themselves, can attest to that. It's especially true in the modern age where kids can't avoid using the internet and being exposed to all sorts of different viewpoints.
Unless you think everyone should start isolating their children Amish-style, your idea comes undone once reality sets in.
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Then how come none of the people who come into these threads to say things like that ever want to talk about the alternatives to cohabitation with men?
It's always some weird "Get a man, start a family and settle down, girls, your eggs are freezing" agenda.
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Why would you come here to vendettapost? Unlike individuals with Y chromosomes, we're not a pack of testosterone-laden animals who'll send this person anon hate for being a tranny or whatever.
Or, is this just some weird Tumblrite "uwu throwing myself the TERFs and selfposting to self-harm" thing? Either way, piss off.
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i've said time and time again, that the sudden uptick in transitioning among teens is akin to the previous generation's emo phase where it seemed like loads of teenagers were suddenly self-harming.
instead of emo kids cutting themselves, now it's tumblrcore kids deciding to troon out. it's just a new generation of angsty teens that don't fit in and are having trouble navigating society self-harming in a different way.
in the same way that there are fakebois, there were emo kids that participated in culture related to self-harm for clout (see: razor blades as an aesthetic, displaying minor scratch scars, etc.) of course, there were full-fledged intense cutters, too, just like there are teens who decide to medically transition. >(inb4 gatekeeping self-harm. papercuts and razor gashes are two different things.)
the biggest difference, however, is how the general public is reacting to it. ideally, if adults found out you were self-harming, you were put in some sort of counselling that would curb the behavior and hopefully get to the root of your angst. no one that began self-harming then is proud or happy that it happened. now, adults laud teens as brave heroes if they decide they want to mutilate their bodies because of ~bad feelings~. the root of the problem is never addressed.
Except>>493913>You just need to breed with someone.
This on top of claiming irrelevant blogger and househusband Molyneux is somehow more successful than Taylor Swift because he has one child, calling women who get manipulated or abused by men "second and third rate", speaking of parents in plural form, first mentioning sons learning from their fathers in >>493922
Just give it up already. No one wants this shit.
Why do alt righters only care about IQ when they can shit on minorities but suddenly it doesn't matter when women have higher IQs than them?
Also where are these said studies and how did they take them and the statistics? Just like all the other statistics that any retard could have made in Microsoft word for faxx
Kek they just don't understand their own ideology. Staying away from women includes sex and this retard can't understand that. If anything they'll crumble and try to pay for an escort and then feel weak afterwards because they are weak.
And it's just retarded how they believe they will look good in their 40s and 50s for this nonsense. No average single man I've seen in that age looks good. Wrinkles, sun damage and poor physical health. The only ones who do have wives that help them in their appearance and health.>>493970
This is such an tinfoil I'm sorry but I think the push is coming from an agenda by pharmaceutical companies that want to make a profit or to study the effects of altering hormones at a young age. There's so much money being made from kids/teens/adults mutilating themselves with surgeries and drugs in comparison to the previous tend of emos. there's something so sinister behind the scenes going on because it is such a sudden force like how violent protests have been for grown ass mentally ill men to be in the same bathrooms as women and girls. Won't be surprised if we get letters or documents leaked about this. It's fucking clown world
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….what retard takes an abortifacient and believes it's reversible? That's why the clinics make you sign the pill warnings and waivers.
I get pregnant "people" is obnoxious, but I'm concerned about the other stupidity in this piece.
I've only ever watched women who report on true crime cases where scrots' victim
blaming is limited. They seriously hate it when women are raped and murdered by other scrots since it makes them look bad. But1 they it hate even more when women report it and try to take precautions around them. Why are they so unable to condemn themselves and their actions??
Theyre so proud and boastful of their strength to overpower women yet when one does and harms her, then they back down and blame her. It's retard logic.
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Wow this is actually a pretty spot on observation.
I also suspected that the trans thing was a phase/trend but I thought it would've died down after a while especially with tumblr slowing down. Seems like the support has only gotten stronger and there's more and more people buying into it. At least emo wasn't as destructive and life changing, Jesus Christ.
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>>494029>>494041>complains about a term being demeaning and exist>unironically says "pregnant people" and calls women "dumb bitches"
NTA but wew. >also I never said I was a feminist
Then why are you here? Don't say it's because you just hate men, because pink pill anons have never been anti-feminist. Are you the FtM Tumblrtard from upthread or something?
It's not "feminist" but some people really do want kids and I respect that. Still, raising a son means raising a potential rapist and raising a daughter means raising a potential rape victim
. Either way you've brought a person into this world that could do/be harmed and that's not feminist.
There’s the notion that educated women can in turn raise better educated children, and when a person is educated they tend to be more inclined to analyse the world around them. Mothers are also the most influential person in a child’s life, they have the most impact on their morals, attitude to life, and general capabilities, so you could argue that if more feminist women have children then each generation will be more feminist than the previous as they pass on their values.
Short term: probably not a feminist act, I don’t see how someone could argue that it is
Long term: if enough feminist women do it, it can have a huge impact
Except that plenty of feminist women try their damndest to raise good sons but they still end up raping women or at best being an asshole who harasses them. You have very little control over your son when it comes to patriarchal conditioning. As soon as that messaging starts that women are lesser/not worth listening to (very young age) you’ve already lost.
This isn’t like other things, like fostering your kids to be interested in reading or some shit. This is an inevitably failing attempt to fight the whole world’s constant assault of gross misogyny
When it's not feminist: A woman is told that she is only a complete person through reproduction. She may not have naturally felt an inclination towards being a mother, but through societal and familial pressure went through with it anyway. She hates it, but can never show her contempt for it as she feels she 'chose' this. She knows the consequences women face when they admit they do not fit traditional roles. She feels she plays a passive part throughout the pregnancy and process of raising a human, which serves to subjugate her individualism by sacrificing herself for a role that was always pushed on her.
When it's feminist: A woman has a desire to become a mother and would feel internal purpose in birthing and raising children. Regardless of outside factors, motherhood is something she chose for herself. Yet just because she's choosing something traditionally acceptable doesn't mean she's not out to reconfigure motherhood. Maybe she enforces her boundaries and personhood during pregnancy by rejecting the notion that she's public property (demands to touch her abdomen, unsolicited advice, interrogations about her life choices).
We all came from a womb. None of us would be here without pregnancy. When we denigrate pregnancy, we denigrate women. Motherhood doesn't have to be patriarchal and we can recover it from that viewpoint.
Rant about my sister's MRA ex husband.
He is a typical "redpill" usually unemployed fuck who fought for custody because he "misses his kids so much baww" (except he wanted them gone when they were toddlers, they're around 12 now) Now he gets them every other week in exchange for lowered child support payments the following has transpired within a year:
>Both kids are showing signs of childhood depression
>Niece told school counselor that dad dragged her and brother to garage and kicked them with bruises to show it
>Social services show up, nothing happens to him and kids get interrogated for hours by dad and guilt tripped about "almost sending their own father to jail"
>Their dad now refuses to take them to any extracurricular activities so nephew got dropped from sports team for missing half the games and practice and niece is about to be dropped from her dance studio she's been attending since age 4
>Bitches and moans about child support when he smokes 2 packs a day and goes to strip clubs
>Leaves porn open on his computer when they show up
>Refuses to help with homework or let them on his computer to do school assignments (they're all online now so it means they're turning in nothing)
>Niece confides everything to school and he gets social workers who spend 10 minutes with him and nothing happens but her life gets harder each time she reaches out for help
>Weekends spent with him involve no activities or anything. Just sitting in a room trying not to aggravate their dad and waiting for Sunday night so their mom can take them back home
Despite being a shit human, sister refused to take the house (she payed alot into) since his parents live with him or take the car. He's so lucky to have beautiful intelligent children but doesn't recognize that.
Remember that when MRAs bitch about custody, they want power. They want to OWN the kids, not talk to them, help with homework, cook for them, be a good parent and make them happy. They want to control their offspring and spite the women who have birth to their kids, to satisfy their ego. To them, divorce is a "shit test" and everything is a power game.
Will love to see his reaction when his own kids refuse to invite him to graduations and weddings.
Literally the only reason that men care about our existence is to fuck us and have us carry their children. There is nothing feminist ever
about having children under our current conditions.
As long as you keep fucking them, they don’t care about treating you human. They get nothing from it.
Ah yes, what a feminist victory to raise a son who doesn't rape women as much
Lmao, right? They're not really making a good case for themselves.
If children are to be made at all, they are to come after
intense social reform, not before. The odds of raising a healthy family in an environment full of toxic
waste are way too low for it to be worth it. You need to clean up the waste first.
It takes generations
to make change at a wide scale level. Something so inherently female shouldn’t be demonised, pregnancy and motherhood are not
men’s, these are women’s experiences that we should take back. We should fight tooth and nail for women to safely have children. Pregnancy belongs to women, men should not be allowed to influence it as much as they do.
I would love to believe this. But into today’s world, good parenting vs societal influence feels more and more like a losing battle. See how public and performative an average zoomer childhood is. I agree that the best we can do is teaching our children the ability to think critically. But we can’t expect all, or even half, of our children to embody our values their whole lives. Even less so, expect them to be leaders and active empathetic allies. It kills me to know that for every 1 feminist mother there are 5 misogynists and 10 indifferent people who are also having children.
It sucks because the ability for childbearing and motherhood are
beautiful and sacred and none of us would be here otherwise. And yet from inside the system, the cons outweigh the goods in every which way, most women (people in general) aren’t living or reproducing for the sake of maybe
societal betterment 100 years from now.
The solution to that is not shacking up with men and allowing them access to our bodies (as well as a chance to extend their genetic lines). That doesn't make a point to anyone, it just gives them what they want and follows the status quo.
If you're talking about alternatives, like using sperm banks and deliberately raising children in female-centric households, that might be different, but we already know that's not what you've been trying to encourage ITT.
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Found this article today, thought you guys might like to read it. It says what a lot of us have talked about on here, multiple times.
This part especially rings true:
>But further, the left often relies on women's willingness to set their own interests aside to protect other oppressed classes. Whether it's racial minorities, immigrants, or the working-class—women of all races and classes are expected to prioritize the needs of these aspects of their identities over their needs as women. Women have long put their own feminism or well-being on hold to hold those perceived to be more in need. Women have been the force behind every social movement. Just like we are expected to be the caretakers at home, we are expected to be the caretakers of society.https://4w.pub/women-are-done-ignoring-misogyny-on-the-left/
child too, not theirs.
Pregnancy doesn't belong to men just because they stick their dicks in us for a minute.
We’ve been fighting for repro rights for forever. We got a small win but we are losing even that. How many more generations are we going to lay here and do exactly what men want from us?
>Pregnancy belongs to women, men should not be allowed to influence it as much as they do.
But we DONT have that power. And no matter how bad it makes you feel, we will continue to not have that power until radical action is taken. We can’t just reclaim it with words, and believing so is just thinly veiled choice feminism.
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Jo Swinson the Lib Dem leader took a £10,00 donation from horse pill manufacturers. I'm glad she lost her seat.
I’d argue it’s more
the mothers child than the fathers considering pregnancy, birth, nursing, and the mothers being more involved in their child’s life
That's why I'd recommend you find a female partner and sperm donor instead.>>494063
Fewer rapes is better than more of them. Some progress is better than none.>>494065
My idea of revolution is making a change that lasts. Think of feminists as gardeners, and the patriarchy as weeds. You can spend all day every day pulling out the weeds, but unless you're replacing them with plants that can fend for themselves those weeds will either return, or worse ones will grow instead. See also, Islam being the world's fastest growing religion.
motherhood, yes, but not giving birth. it makes no sense to make more children when there are already countless children who are either at risk of being abused, or becoming abusers, because they are in terrible situations. giving birth adds more children to an already overflowing shitheap of pain and chaos. >>494079
okay, and that has little to do with how the child actually turns out. and we know that peers have more influence over children than parents tend to. children are bombarded with anti-woman propaganda. having more children serves men and victimizes children who have never asked to be born into a terrible world like this. there are more people on the planet today than there ever have been at one time, there is no need to make more children, it only serves men, yes, even through sperm banks.
What's weird about this article is that it likes to separate womanhood from being a racial minority, working class or an immigrant. The author doubles back with "women of all races and classes", but continues to work off of a male default for all those things.
More often than not, women are those very things, and their experiences with womanhood tie into them directly. They aren't separate. Sorry, but a working class woman isn't treated the same as a working class man, and the man won't really relate that well to her, lmao.
Why not just say "minority men, working class men and immigrant men" to make the point and be done with it? Why the generality, unless there's something a little bit more unsavory and fucked up that the author is trying to say?
Feminism has always encompassed those issues, because "woman" is not some separate category from everything else the world throws at you. Intersectionality is valid
, troons and other opportunistic males just tried to barge in by obfuscating things with their woman LARP. Sadly, they succeeded, because both the right and left are swamped with unnecessary male voices.
This article basically sums up my opinions.https://susanspoliticalblog.blogspot.com/2014/10/fragmented-feminisms.html>When I read Sisterhood is Powerful[iv] in 1973, what struck me was the incredible diversity of voices in that anthology. Some were young and angry and white, many were not. My point here is that feminism is charged with being singular and narrow when it was far from that. It is hard to pinpoint where this idea first came from, but I have vivid memories of arguments at conferences in Australia in 1980s where I heard such comments. I have been around long enough and involved in enough very different political and cultural activities over the last forty years to know that the argument is false. I have worked with feminists in Bangladesh and India; I’ve worked with Aboriginal women and heard their concerns; I have discussed lesbian politics with lesbian feminists in Uganda; I know women in countries around the world who have been a part of feminist struggles around violence as well as art, politics as well as love to know that feminism never has been narrow, though parts of the media and some feminists, might wish to call it so.
>Feminism and feminists are not perfect. Black women around the world are frustrated and angry about not being heard; rightly so. Lesbians are tired of being shunted to the side over human rights abuses because the word lesbian does not help to raise money or support; rightly so. Women with disabilities are exhausted by being made tokens, or lured to media appearances and exoticised; rightly so. Nor is every woman who calls herself a feminist, necessarily informed about the complexities of feminism. But from my own experience, it has been feminists who have raised issues of inequality, of oppression, of hatred, of environmental destruction and of war long before these became conversations in the mainstream.
>To ignore the ideas and writings of women of color, of Indigenous women, of working class women and women with disabilities, of lesbians is insulting. To ignore our voices is to distort our history. Further, feminism, taking in half the world’s population, has always been pluralist; there have always been disagreements between us, but that does not mean that we can’t work together. Disagreement, argument is what makes you think harder. It means that more than one mind is at work; it opens the possibility for multiple minds to chew at the same problem. These days, instead of argument we get name-calling and silencing. Sometimes this comes by someone in the audience standing up and saying, what you just said makes me feel ‘unsafe’. Walking down the street sometimes makes me feel unsafe, but I still do it. Such games are conversation-stoppers, guilt-provokers and plain nasty. Very frequently the speaker is a man.
>>494080>My idea of revolution is making a change that lasts. Think of feminists as gardeners, and the patriarchy as weeds. You can spend all day every day pulling out the weeds, but unless you're replacing them with plants that can fend for themselves those weeds will either return, or worse ones will grow instead. See also, Islam being the world's fastest growing religion.
so why is it necessary to give birth to kids to influence children? there are a million different ways you can influence children and affect children that are especially vulnerable and in need of guidance that doesn't require spending ALL of your time on that child, giving birth, and spending $250,000+ excluding education, to raise it to 18.>>494084
not to mention that overall men need more children (and want more children of specific races) to support aging populations, grow economies, and lower the price of labor. you're doing it all for them even without the nuclear family bit. it's especially laborious for the woman and puts women and children at risk of becoming impoverished. it's already tough enough when women have less money, less pull, less resources overall, to be a single mother to a child you've not birthed, but to give birth on top of it? terrible idea. this is like the "feminist" choice to go out on dates with men, pay for the food, to have terrible to mediocre sex/feel annoyed and pressured to impress the entire time, all for the grand prize of then later having your body spoken badly about on some men's forum. you're doing all the work for men, for all the aggravation and risk. the solution is to either not have children, and if you want to create social change, do your activism, and/or adopt.
>>494090>so why is it necessary to give birth to kids to influence children?
It isn't. Adoption works as well. Not AS well, but it's still better than nothing.
>there are a million different ways you can influence children and affect children that are especially vulnerable and in need of guidance that doesn't require spending ALL of your time on that child, giving birth, and spending $250,000+ excluding education, to raise it to 18.
You don't get to call yourself a revolutionary if you're not willing to dedicate your time or money to something. Yes, children are expensive. Yes, children are time intensive. Regardless they're an investment that pays off for the cause in the end since mo' people means mo' impact.
If you don't think men can love their kid your wrong. Calling all fathers narcissists is like calling all women sluts, it isn't true.
Most MRA's are losers, but most crazy feminists are losers too. Both sides are oftentimes, bitter, ugly crazies that can't keep their shit together.
No, but you should be having kids to support a national economy. If there's not enough children born within a country that are naturally inclined to work within aged care to meet the growing demand for it then other workers will be imported. Most likely from poorer, shittier countries where the only rights that women have available are black eyes.>>494104>Why wouldn't adoption work just as well?
Because 9/10 kids in need adoption have already been screwed up. You'll exert all of your energy, and more, just to make them half way functional, let alone exceptional. The earliest years in an infants life are the ones with the greatest impact on development.(>>>>>>>>>/pol/)
I don't believe Aziz Ansari types was raised feminist. Most of these male feminist types were not, they just had passively decent parents who maybe didn't go out of their way to enforce gender roles. at the least they're just riding the current trend and picking up libfem talking points & wouldn't really have the same beliefs if the popular climate was different. idk any examples of men actively raised feminist, but you should probably find someone like that as an example of what works or doesn't work when raising feminist sons.
it's like the difference between kids raised in strict Christian households and households where their parents identify as religious but didn't force anything and the kids never went to church except for easter. I wouldn't use the latter as an example of a Christian person tbh.
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>>494097> mo' people means mo' impact
Why even be in a pink pill/radfem/gc thread if you’re going to cape for males?>>494109
Hey dumbass, those kids grow up into adults even if they aren’t adopted
Take a shot every time >women are just as bad
Also the way men ‘love’ a child isn’t the same as a mother’s love. He loves a child because it’s a carrier of his seeds. Why do you think males have such a fucking complex about raising another man’s child? Even gays don’t want to adopt.
i love you, anon. exactly.>>494113>Hey dumbass, those kids grow up into adults even if they aren’t adopted
exactly, and if not aided and/or adopted, they are at risk of becoming 'non-productive' or 'drains' on the economy. if we invested into these kids rather than calling them damaged goods and letting them suffer needlessly, they'd be able to contribute to the economy. (they are victims
, so i don't think it's their burden anyways, that's not how we should be thinking of these poor kids), your best bet at supporting the economy is preventing these kids from aging out of the system, struggling, potentially becoming criminals or homeless out of necessity, and draining the system, and giving them a solid foundation to build off of, one they were deprived of. and children that are cleared for adoption through foster care, for example, are at higher risk of depression, anxiety, some mood disorders, but that doesn't mean they aren't capable of functioning or that they're not exceptional. a lot of these kids are rightfully situationally depressed or anxious. and literally plenty of exceptional children are depressed, or anxious, or are autistic, etc, etc. anon (who i assume is male, honestly) associating mental health issues (which likely could be dealt with if these kids had stability), with not being exceptional, is just so fucked.
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I never said that, so you can shove that strawman up your ass. I have no problem with women choosing motherhood if that's what they want for themselves, but I personally don't want to go through with pregnancy.
Of course I'm going to shitpost when some dumbass conservative shill tries this logic. If fewer rapes is better than more, then I can contribute to their decrease by never giving birth to sons because less males = fewer rapes. See how that works?
Lundy Bancroft is a good man. Unfortunately, the majority of men are not like Lundy Bancroft.
The reason no one here wants to hear male defense is because the standards are always too low. Just look at the anon(s) defending raising male children because they may commit fewer rapes than men who were raised by non-feminists. They can't promise no rapists with a clear conscience, indicating that they themselves believe there's a futility to raising boys/men in this current society. But we're still supposed to close our eyes and pretend nothing is happening, and if we don't, we're "just as bad" as incels who literally want to terrorize, rape and/or murder us?
Everyone is just sick of a "good man" being a guy who does the bare minimum of being a decent human being. Soon, "did not rape anyone", "has never called his mother a cunt", "has never physically assaulted a woman", "has never knowingly masturbated to CP" and "does not leave skid marks on bedsheets" will be considered desirable, rare traits.
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Troons are retarded
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I fucking. Hate. Men.
This was a comment left under an article on my local news website. The article was about the police force in the area going to middle schools and high schools and teaching young girls self defense, specifically self defense against rape and abduction. I'm so enraged I can't even form fucking words.
>Stop insinuating it's in men's nature to rape teenagers
UHM???? IT FUCKING IS THOUGH?????
But yeah shame on the police for teaching vulnerable young women how to defend themselves against people who want to rape and steal them am I right?
Lmao @ this idiot.>shame on schools for having fire drills! To single out young children to prepare against a fire is literally no different than telling these children they will be burnt alive in a school fire one day.
No moron, it teaches young girls that they don't have
to be the victim
of an assault if they know how to defend themselves against predators. In what way does that treat them like they're fragile? Would it be better to teach young girls that there's nothing they can do to protect themselves if such a situation ever occurs?
I wonder why this dude has such a problem with teen girls knowing how to defend themselves. Hmm…
This sounds like the type of guy who would coerce sex and convince his victim
she wasn't assaulted, to be so pissed off at the notion of teaching girls how to identify and defend against sexual assault.
I mean what other motivation? Rapists and their pickme apologists don't want educated and empowered targets.
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Samefag, had to delete and edit out locations lmao but here is this fucking idiot's long winded rant. I'm don't usually use the term "mansplain" but here we fuckin are.
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>>494162>if it makes you feel better to bully me by calling me a rapist (which is what you did by saying it's in the nature of men to rape) so be it. But, I wish you well because I'm so Holier than Thou!
He's reveling in some of those details too much for my comfort.
This reminds me of a book that I was recommended once by farmers here: The Gift of Fear. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/56465.The_Gift_of_Fear
Spoiler: If you look at the reviews, you'll find a man also bitching about the statistics of male violence and how fear of them is positively portrayed in this book.
Isn't it funny how predators want us to abandon our fear?
Yeah that's why I didn't bother reading it. I realized my mistake soon after posting.
All I posted was that 99% of rapists are Male, while 93% of victims
are female, and 1 in every 1000 women will be raped or otherwise sexually assaulted in her lifetime. So it's certainly the nature of men to rape.
And I got this as a response and at myself out the door right around >the media blahs blah
It mostly just blows my mind that his wife could go through this shit and he would still defend his stance.
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So this is basically a very long winded "not all men". Wow.
And to use his wife's trauma against
teaching self defense? what is that logic…
Honestly, in this part it seems as if he was about to go in the direction of "rape is a social construct and if women no longer fear it, it won't be traumatic anymore."
I've read enough of such reasoning on 4chinz to smell it from a mile away. Don't doubt he deleted a paragraph before launching into the wife bit.
>>494168>Isn't it funny how predators want us to abandon our fear?
They're incomprehensible. They bash women over the heads constantly over the fact that men are larger and stronger than women.
Men are overwhelming more often the rapists and murderers and they can overpower women and girls on average quite easily.
So women and girls take precautions and safety measures. Now
those men take a step back and go #NotAllMen because being the big strong animal isn't desirable. It's the opposite. It's fearful.
Theyre incapable of understanding that women and girls do not want to be in the presence of something dangerous. It's like they're still stuck in the prehistoric era where the predators are still beasts that they have to kill. But it's not like that anymore. There are no more beasts. Now the beasts are themselves and they hate it
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>blames election result on TERFs
Why is it so hard for these people to look in the mirror?
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Friend just told me she’s been doing sex work for the past few months, and that she loves the confidence sex workers, strippers, and pornstars have and is pursuing it temporarily and not anonymously. How do I lay it down to her that she’s gonna ruin her life without outing myself as a “terf”. Did I mention she just turned 18 and been doing it when she was underage?
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She could emulate their confidence without taking on their high-risk lifestyle choices, too.
I told I’d “support” (re: be quiet about) her sex work, but that it wasn’t rlly a great idea to show her face, and it’d be a better idea to stay anon and brand herself that way.
She basically went on a libfem rant about how she’s confident in her own body and that she doesn’t care what anyone think and how pursuing sex work is something she’s sure about.
I don’t think she realizes that were both still young and a quick decision like this could really fuck with someone’s life. So, I told her the real world isn’t as forgiving as the internet, and that it’s dangerous to show her face. That that’s unfortunately the reality we face as women, especially as black women.
She told me she doesn’t care. That this is somehow her bring true to herself….. What? No. This is a dangerous way to make a quick buck. Tf you need to show ur face for.
So, I said idc back. And that’s that. We’re not speaking, and I’ll probably see her a year later getting clowned on this hellsite.
That's pretty fucked. Hopefully, it doesn't turn out too badly for her (though we know it probably will in the future).
I'm sorry you fell out with your friend. If she's really determined to self-destruct, you can't stop her, but at least you warned her.
There's so much sex positivity bullshit online which is specifically intended to lower inhibitions and reframe sex work as empowering uwu, and this propaganda works best on young people
She's the prime age group targeted here. Your brain doesn't finish developing til age 25, but obviously at 17-18 you are capable of being an independent businesswoman uwu and if you criticize you must be a prude terf
You're a good friend anon. I hope she starts being more careful.
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Ask her why she thinks she has to show her face and body online to be "confident." Remind her that she doesn't need that type of attention or validation from men to have a self-esteem, especially since it's basically the modern equivalent of wearing a scarlet letter. Show her stuff from Mia Khalifa and other women who were in the sex industry that now regret their choices.
I've observed the connections to the mid-late 2000's emo culture before but never thought about how the key difference is that medical professionals aren't allowed to intervene. It just makes the tranny fad even sadder because I've met so many people who started cutting (and became addicted to it) in their teens after learning the behavior from their friends and now in their late 20's they have arms that look straight out mutilated due to the heavy scarring. And there's nothing you can do about it, except maybe get tattoos to cover them up. The same is going to happen to all these kids getting surgeries and hormones at 14 because they ~totally realized they were a boy at 12~.
The lowering of the age of consent for transitioning has been a hot subject in my country and it kills me how TRAs refuse to acknowledge detransitioners or why 90% of the underage kids seeking help from the gender clinic are girls. I swear to fucking god even for the latter problem they just have the ridiculous "trans girls are less likely to seek help because of muh transmisogyny" excuse to lay at your feet every time. How about just regular misogyny you absolute buffoon?
>>494200>le confidence meme
I. Hate this so much. Society actually brainwashing women to think that their "confidence" and worth of self should be built on how many men masturbate to her. You shouldn't
have to stick a vibrator in your pussy on a webcam to feel confident
. It's not about "taking back your sexuality uwu", that's a lie that's been fed by men to MAKE women degrade themselves for their sexual pleasure. How meny men say they feel "totally more confident in themselves" by broadcasting themselves pushing a dildo up their asses? None? Because they don't get validation from women by doing that? That's what I thought.
i don't know what the radical feminist take is, but being that pregnancy is harmful physically, that it is a liability for us and is used as a means to oppress us and serve male interest, that women are victimized because of it, put into poverty because of it, are more easily abused because of the fact that they share children with men, and serve men even indirectly by having kids, that children will end up becoming either victims
or abusers, on top of the general horribleness that is existing, all of that alone makes it very counterinuitive, in my opinion, for women to have children and advocate others doing so. it makes no sense. it literally adds more misery. it doesn't reduce any. and imo, it's deeply unethical to force people into existence. i believe people are potentially condemning their children, and especially girls and women, to an uncertain life of fear, mistreatment, struggle, inconvenience, with absolutely no ability to safeguard them and guarantee their wellbeing and happiness. it's just cruel, really. you have no clue the amounts of pain, bad luck, abuse, poor health, your child may go through. you're playing with someone else's life and you're gambling for them despite knowing you'll never have to experience their pain. terrible.>>494227
how does that sound fucking stupid? life is suffering. you can't guarantee that any child/person will experience anything but suffering, suffering is all that's guaranteed. the fact that our bodies break down, that we all have to suffer physically and fear that suffering, is enough to put me off of the idea of ever reproducing, even if society wasn't horrible, even if we weren't victimized by other people and left to languish, the fact that all creatures must suffer and some point and die, and experience the fear of both of those things, and that there's potentially no end to their suffering, is terrifying. on top of the fact that there's literally nothing even remotely ideal about forcing people into existence into a sick society. there is no pain or misery associated with never coming into existence, but there is with existing. anti-natalism will never takeover enough to drive us extinct, so there's nothing stupid about it. the overall quality of human life goes up when people are more cognizant of how to reduce suffering and don't crowd the earth while poisoning the life support system of everything on the planet.
Calm down sperg. You don’t have to mansplain to me how shitty life is. I’m against reproducing myself but the reason is definitely not “existence is pain abloobloo”.
Almost all of human suffering is caused by men and yet it is somehow the noble thing for ALL of us to drink the kool aid instead of doing literally anything else. I’d be on board if this was about shitty men culling themselves from the herd because it is their moral duty to reduce suffering on earth. Instead this just sounds like a reddit post of a depressed guy. He is welcome to not reproduce and die, no need to act like it’s for any higher purpose lol
Not completely related but… I noticed I was still making decisions about my looks based on how men approved of it. Even subconsciously taking in account what my abusive
ex would have thought.
Today I finally cut my hair short, even my own father commented that it is too short and I will have more difficulty getting a man. Because I have to be Rapunzel to attract a mate and in turn inconvenience myself majorly? Fuck that shit.
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>And it would CRUSH me if she were to, in an outburst of anger, call me gay because I ate her out and got my own cum in my mouth.
Is this fella for real? He's being overdramatic because his biggest fear is… being called gay?
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here's the comment. sorry for doubleposting.
its funny how when a male kills his wife for no good reason people are tripping over each other to come to his defense and demonise the wife even if she did nothing wrong, but when women kill their legitimately abusive
husbands everyone shits on them.>>494338
ive noticed a trend that """stay at home fathers""" are usually lazy and neglectful. every time ive seen a scrot like this, they always talk about how easy staying at home is, but the way they describe it makes it clear that they most likely neglect their children and live in a disgusting filthy house they never clean.
I vaguely remember this case when it happened. She worked for a construction company, and although the video doesn't clarify, I don't think the Monday-Friday commute to Puerto Rico she had was permanent, since supervisors in construction often need to be at the site during the project. She also left her kids in the care of her husband and a live-in nanny; it's not like they were neglected or left without care.
The story of her saying she was going to divorce the husband and take the kids is the murderer's story, who also fake cried on TV for Tara's safe return and made fake calls to her cell phone after he killed her, so yeah, take that with a grain of fucking salt. He did a bunch of stuff to get sympathy and make himself look better. He would never have even "confessed" if they hadn't found the body in the house.
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>>494338>This means the woman was an awful mom for not making magic money appear
That is it. They hate it when women work for money when they believe it should just magically appear in their accounts. I hate males in true crime communities or as commentary whenever women are murdered. They're so incapable of looking at their own crime stats so every crime is justified and the victim
That reply was probably written by a man though>>491308
That explains why she wasn't able to answer the simple question "what is a woman?"https://mobile.twitter.com/bbc5live/status/1203973870056660992
How many woke people who suddenly pretend to not understand biology or women's issues are getting funding from the trans lobby?
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So now guys who dress like 70s rockers are trannies now? So progressive for any slightly flamboyant style to be typecasted as female now..
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this user made a popular post, so I checked out his history and it’s just all women hating nonsense trussed up in pseudo-philosophical nonsense
Reddit makes me sick
Tell her she watches to many movies,lool.
Notice how in fiction the literal prostitute is always the coolest female character.
Fucking shocking. Who could've seen that coming. I'm appalled. Wow.
This needs to leak into the mainstream. Every GC person has known for ages that the big pharma is funding the whole trans agenda to peddle their snake oil, it's only now that the legitimate proof is coming out. I've been waiting for this for so long, let 2020 be the year of the worldwide peak trans. I'm only hoping that fellow libtards would speak up as well, I don't want GC to be associated with crusty right wingers who only hate trannies because they associate them with homosexuals, not because of the trans agenda's inherent danger to women, GNC and gay people.
I mean it's kinda already known doctors love to give their patients prescriptions for certain brands because they get tons of samples. Never been prescribed hormones, but I had a psychiatrist that immediately prescribed me some medicine that was new on the market before I could even thoroughly describe what I was going through. I went through 4 different medicines in a span of 5 months to find one that worked enough
. It wasn't cheap either, especially after that first month reduced price. Can't imagine how giddy these doctors get knowing a genderspecial and confused child is their next patient.
what movies are you talking about?
I think she's buying in the libfem meme about sex workers
Her's the study if you're interested.https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/08/100816095617.htm
Seems the participants were just 18-28, so I don't know how valid
the results are.
the answer is obvious, no. the funny/depressing thing is that these princessy little fucks on plebbit or where-ever else are pissing themselves silly claiming that we're not worth it, all bc women want like, a soupcon of respect – while men are literal mortality risks, selfish, can't make us cum to save their lives, are stupid as fuck, are barely attractive, age like shit, are arrogant, physically and emotionally abusive
, unappreciative, disrespectful, entitled, their dicks don't even goddamned work, don't want to even make themselves useful in any regard, have no incentive to improve themselves, are actual liabilities to us in like, every regard, the list goes on and on.
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I don't care about pinkpill autism but what the fuck man haha
This was ignored but you're right. There's no point arguing with men. They're not interested in what you say, they've already decided they're right. They will just long wind you into submission, or just change how the argument went in their head afterwards and declare themselves the winner.
The best tactic with men like that is just to laugh and say "anyway…" and roll your eyes. Don't engage. When he tries to get under your skin just laugh more and say something about them getting emotional over silly things. Scrotes hate being laughed at more than anything but as SOON as you start to defend your views you've already lost. Moids are used to believing they're right all the time, no exceptions, and there is no version of any argument that will end with you being the winner and the scrote changing his views.
That's part of why I like my boyfriend. He knows he can't speak for women's issues and doesn't do performative twitter tier numale 'male feminist' shit. Just supports in silence.
Branching off of that, is it bad if I almost prefer the usual old school terrible macho men to the male feminist guys? At least with the former you know they're terrible up front and they lack insidiousness. The amount of self proclaimed 'male feminists' that get outed for being sex pests is disgusting and the hypocrisy is awful.
Agreed, at least they have the decency to show they are trash upfront so you can dispose of them faster. Male feminists are sneaky cunts.
Also, does anybody think that all of these men obsessed with masculinity and tradition have massive daddy issues?
This. Mon Nigel
doesn’t call himself a feminist, he just listens. He always questions my beliefs with desire to learn instead of intention to refute. Doesn’t take it personally like men do for some reason. He prides himself the most on self-control and stoicism.
I too chalk it up to having strong female role models. All the women in his family were teachers, they were rather matriarchal and had husbands who were the machismo but gentle type. So he didn’t lack father figure either.
My ex who both sexually assaulted me and cheated on me is constantly sperging on twitter about trans and racial issues. I think it's because it's an easy way for him to shit on women. The meme about misogyny being acceptable as long as you add cis or white before the word women is so fucking true and frustrating.
I really fucking hate how they have this smokescreen they can use. How even the skuzziest motherfuckers can promote themselves as sensitive, feeling souls when they really just want to dominate women. We can't even have our own social causes anymore without them drowning us out.
It's so fucking disheartening. You vote for the left, you're letting womanhood be erased for genderspecial shit, giving predatory men access to us, and letting the 'sex positive' movement keep our bodies commidified. You vote for the right and you get no reproductive rights and are treated as a dumb broodmare.
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So, by most popular comment, the list goes something like this:
1. Fear of failing people who depend on you
2. The first time your testicle ascends into your groin.
3. People assuming you're a pedophile for being near a kid.
4. When your date gets in a fight with a guy in a bar and expects you to defend her? (Oddly specific.)
5. Having to make the first move on a girl you like.
Meanwhile, being female, my list of thing I'm afraid of include:
1. Being murdered.
2. Being raped.
3. Being assaulted/brutalized/beat up by a male.
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TRA says the world doesn't have to change for a womans PTSD from abuse, while whining that not allows trans people to use the bathroom that aligns with their "gender" damages their mental health.
Just say you hate women and fuck off, you misogynistic assholes.
Here's the thread if you want to read it. People are calling him on his bullshit.https://twitter.com/LivecorpseLives/status/1206353989077479424
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I keep looking at the replies and it's just way too much. Like thank the Lord there's actual men who care about other men invading women's spaces. I just think it's hilarious this Corpsegrinder guy just keeps saying "I don't care who's in my toilets" well, good for you. How nice it must be to not have to worry, unlike tons of women who've been abused by men.
So essentially his argument is that ALL tims will kill themselves because of dysphoria from using a men's restroom. So instead of treating dysphoria as a mental illness that needs some form of medication and therapy that won't just encourage this behavior, they just want to invade women's private spaces>>494771
Isnt the publics comfort with tras going down too? There was a story shared a while ago about how the more tras push their agenda, the more the public is actually rejecting them. They are heading towards collapse. God I wish the funding for this shit will stop soon
- men can risk getting mugged and beaten if some guys want their wallet in dangerous places of the city
- heavy bullying in school is common
He’s a paedo, there’s no other motive for dying on this hill, for getting so angry
Any man that laments against protection for children from sexual assault is a paedo in my eyes, until they prove otherwise. They should be called as such and shamed as much as possible.
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It's so stupid to me when I see men bitch about paying for dates and/or financially supporting their girlfriends or wives.
Like, shut up. If the woman wanted to pay for everything, you'd either feel emasculated in your insecure moid ego and get angry, or decide to become a complete leech.
Also, it's not like women created this. It's literally the system men built through centuries of not letting women be on the same financial foot as themselves, and generally treating us as second-class citizens (or outright property), with the added bonus of seeming "gentlemanly" in the rare event they acted like human beings. We're still not 100% equal, in fact.
I will never spurn another woman for spending a man's money. She should just make sure to have money and a job of her own, so she's not 100% reliant on him.
this argument is genuinely hilarious to me. either gender dysphoria is a mental illnes (or symptom of) or it isn't, but they switch it up whenever it serves their desired purposes. they can't set the record straight on what is and isn't, bc apparently saying "X thing isn't trans" is oppresive or sth?
also in that same thread someone says "you don't need dysphoria to be trans" then what makes you trans in the first place?? why and how would you qualify as transgender if you don't experience the very thing that makes people transgender? they don't make any sense.
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>>494163> so, even though I am a man, that has never been sexually assaulted, I have personally been affected by it
ME ME ME ME ME MEEEEEEE!!!! ME ME ME!!!!!! WHAT ABOUT MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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same country with the majority of this years reported trans murders
is brazil just dangerous af? any anons from brazil?
Yes it's the first major country that is completely miscegenated. There is no race or cultural identity, everyone is mixed race. The only culture is money and consumerism.
America is next.(racebaiting)
Always makes me lmao when stupid white people (or any other retard) post this like the raping, thieving Europeans didn't rape African and Native women so much, that most South Americans have a mix of native/african/european, or native/european, or african/european blood, and even the BLACK AMERICANS IN USA are on average THIRTY PERCENT European ancestry, mostly from a European Y gene.
Miscegenation has ALWAYS happened except back then it was rape and force but it's only bad when it happens to you? You fucking cowards never answer me when I bring this up either, makes me fucking sick.. Retarded hypocritical liars.. not enough people call you out for this dumb shit either.(Global rule 7. Do not instigate or engage in race related arguments. (racebaiting))
>>494730>1. Fear of failing people who depend on you
Men created this system and only water it. Most women I know have to demand to let men let them pay. You can't beg to pay and then cry about paying>2. The first time your testicle ascends into your groin.Valid
I guess but it's not like there's millions of other issues surrounding female reproductive organs that cause massive amounts of pain>3. People assuming you're a pedophile for being near a kid.
Literally nobody does this>4. When your date gets in a fight with a guy in a bar and expects you to defend her? (Oddly specific.)
Who does this?>5. Having to make the first move on a girl you like.
Oh the horrors, it's not like men repeatedly shamed and shat on women who made the first move if they aren't Stacy. All the memes about "when an ugly girl asks for a hug, when a flat chested girl flirts with you" etc, of course you scared women out of making the first move what did they expect
Yeah. I feel like a lot of "woke" shit in general is really classist, and has little to no relevancy to me. I see some people pushing back against that on Twitter though, and they post class related stuff, usually rad fems.
I mean just look at transing and lib fem "sex work", it's like the epitome of classism. You have to have money to trans, and the loudest ones seem to be people who have never struggled with poverty. And lib fem sex work and their "choice" shit is usually middle/upper class girls who can cam from home, not you know, actual streetwalkers and trafficked women.
Well men certainly can perform
sensual, emotional sex, some are into body worshiping, albeit ultimately motivated by personal pleasure. Maybe don't fuck redditors. To be fair, I've never felt religious about a man either. I feel bad for hetero women.
I have had good sex, sex that isn't like what you're describing (though god I've had that type too), sex with men I loved and was loved by. But fuck if I don't feel "the fact that the kind of sex you're fantasizing about will never happen to you" down to my bones. I'm single now and finding that I'm actually really interested in remaining so, maybe forever, and when I read a great sex scene in a female-written story, I feel that "oh, but I'd miss that" thing…….but then I remember how fucking rare that actually is. And how even if it happens, ensuring it continues demands a level of effort and selflessness so, so few men are actually interested in giving long-term. And I remember how awful it is to have sex where you're just performing, really, where you fake orgasm because it hurts and you just want it to end, where you realize he's not really seeing you, you're just the thing you're masturbating with. And then I'm like, yeah, I might good with my hitachi.
Just find a good sub man. Dominant men, which I know are the majority, but still, are shit. A good subbie will worship the ground you walk on.>>495134>Don't fall too hard>Sleep around>Flirt with other men in front of your dude
This is the worst set of advices I have ever seen.
Sub men are overhyped on this website.
In that already rare demographic they tend to have porn addiction problems, just as entitled as regular men, don't actually care about pleasing you and top from the bottom basically.
I've had a lot of shitty disapointing sex, but current partner is great, it's very important for him to make me cum, but not for his own gratification (he just feels extremely guilty if he orgasm and I don't) and he's one of the most patient person I've ever met in my life so he's okay with eating me out / touching me for 40 min if it's what it takes for me to orgasm…
I just hate the fact that I had to endure shitty sex with men who pretended to be this way before meeting him.
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I have to agree with the anons up in the thread where they feel like trans is the new emo/scene fad especially how they make very fictional character trans like how their was an emo version of them as well but this one has been sticking longer and seems worse for peoples mentality, at least emos wrote poerty.
Things like this make me sick and the school faculty did nothing to really stop it at all, something worse and damaging to this girl could have happened and what would they have said? Things like this have me scared of having a daughter, I would rather home school her or have her go to an all females school than ever the thought of her being subjected to this. On the same topic the amount of young males in 3rd world countries who rape and murder girls and basically get away scotch free is sickening. An eye for an eye https://nypost.com/2019/12/13/little-girl-learns-jiu-jitsu-to-kick-boy-bullys-butt-at-school/
Two years ago I did this internship at an elementary school and let md fucking tell you how pornsick and corrupted the little boys were.
The little girls were constantly groped, comments about their genitals were constantly made, even fucking I was groped by goddamn 8 year olds and I'm a scary looking, tall, wide shouldered ogre of a woman. No respect anywhere. They saw in porn how any woman can be sold, raped, abused, brutalized, violated, spat on etc. and that thats totally okay. They fucking watched porn on their phones during breaks, they rated girls on a scale from 1 to 10, they asked graphic questions to fucking first graders on if they ever gave a blowjob (!!!)
So ladies, abort that male fetus. Or better yet don' t have kids at all. Your little baby boy angel is asking his classmates whether or not they have roast beef vaginas.
I agree though I am scared at the prospect of how difficult it is, particularly these days with how early children are getting porn access. I was even talking to my partner recently about it: how are we going to keep our kids away from that stuff if they're being shown by their peers that everyone else has iPads and internet access? Am I going to end up making my child some weird social outcast by isolating them from new technology in attempt to reproduce an impossible, better version of my own childhood, which is one of the most common parenting mistakes? But what alternative do I have, just let my kid get traumatized and sick from the things online?
I'm not even set on having children yet and the immense pressure and assumption that I will be a kid-making machine for the sake of older relatives is disgusting, but all these things are huge concerns. Even knowing any daughter I have will have to face a culture now filled with social media fueled warped body image and the pervasiveness of pump-and-dump approaches to relationships and intimacy is saddening.
it's not because of its gender. it's ethically bankrupt to have biological children either way, imo, but you're acting like it's some regressive chinese thinking, when it's literally that society as it is turns males into offfenders, or at the least, men who terrorize women personally/romantically. either way, literally most of them are out here jerking off to the idea of raping women and girls, are encouraging their wives and girlfriends to pretend to be raped or are cumming to shit like psychopaths shoving spiked speculums up the anuses of some barely legal girl, to the point where their dicks don't even work because they're so desensitized to violent and extreme pornography, but because they work alongside you and once bought you a soda, you're deluded into believing they're "good guys" and that it's autistic to not want to be responsible for creating another creep.
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I was gonna put this in the fakeboi thread, but she's technically faketrooning
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Nice to see r/GenderCritical is still caping for males. I should just stick to pinkpilled spaces and only pop in to r/GenderCritical to laugh at women who think men can be improved. Just rename it to r/NotMyNigel already.
Fucking disgusting. What was done about it? Probably told off for “potty mouth”
I couldn’t bear a 6 yr old kid of mine going through that. >>495221
Why don’t you fuck off back to your echo chamber of scrote-coddling? Aka the rest of the internet+world>>495193
I personally wouldn’t but I can sure as fuck see how others would, just like I could understand someone wanting to abort a baby with severe disabilities or Down syndrome, or just because they’re not ready to have kids. In fact, I can even understand why an Indian woman would want to abort her daughter, seeing how shit that country is for women and girls., not that it’s right, I just understand and wouldn’t try to shut them down on an image board for saying so. So why is aborting a Male because you’re terrified of producing another piece of shit, or because you’re just not interested in raising a Male, so apprehensible? They already outnumber us, what difference does it make?
When did anyone say that? It was an example. Also if you think men don't watch depraved, horrifying shit you are delusional and probably coping. Sis men watch bdsm clips of women being asphyxiated with plastic bags to the point passing out. Men seek out videos with actresses looking as young and tiny as possible. Men watch porn of women getting beaten the shit up. And all of that isn't even the worst of it.
Men aren't jerking it to cutesy softcore. Go to pornhub and look at the front page for like ten seconds. If you really think thats healthy male sexuality idk what to say to you.
You implied it in the way you wrote earlier and you know it. And honestly you keep doing it by saying "men" as if it counts for all of them, but that just isn't true. You probably need to get off of the internet and interact with more dudes IRL who aren't scumbags. >>495257
I've gone through my partners porn histories many times, several partners too, and most of them watch amateur stuff where it looks like the girl is enjoying it. I know a lot of guys have rape fetishes and I find that sick, but in my experience my partners haven't gone out of their way to watch rape porn.
I am not mad, but you sure seem upset because someone disagrees with you. I am here for the gender critical stuff, and I am critical of men, but that doesn't mean I hate them or am constantly afraid of them. It's pretty disingenous to say "all men" when that happens to women all the time. It's better to treat things on a case by case basis than brush everything with the same comb. I dunno about you, but I've known plenty of great guys out there and saying they're all trash just won't help your movement.>>495269
Unless you specify the statement "men" vs. "some men" and "most men" implies all men.
It's still disingenous to say all guys are out to rape you and it's fearmongering that won't help your causes whatsoever.
My argument was always that NOT ALL MEN do this stuff, but rather than agreeing on that which is 100% true, you guys just sperg and meltie because someone doesn't agree with your downright retarded paranoia.
Listen, I'm not exactly interested in debating whether or not men are abusive
shitbags in a goddamn thread dedicated to venting about absusive shitbags. I know what I'm talking about. Maybe you don't but I'm not even interested in changing your mind. If you're having a good time with males and believe in their inherent goodness, thats just great for you sis. I don't. Genuinely I don't. Also did it ever cross your mind that people here wouldn't fuck with you if you just stopped taking the bait every single time? This isn't some cute knitting forum. Get used to people on here being rude assholes when you start displaying your cuckqueen "not all men" behavior.
Also I don't hate women. And even if I did, I could never hate women they way men hate women. I say "men" because I'm not interested in painstainkingly tailoring my language around the feelings of scrotes and scrotes apologists like you. Now go join the other moderate gendercrits on reddit
why are you triggered
retards even in this thread? honestly curious
This thread is majorly gender critical, not pinkpill. It's on the mods for merging the threads. I am not interested in furthering the distance between men and women. Even Germaine Greer recognized that feminism should be for the benefit of men. I also know what I am talking about, and I don't care what your agenda is, or anyone elses.
Pretty sure I never said you hate women, but you sure seem hateful and miserable. >>495288
When you're discussing online it is way better to be careful and accurate than make generalized statements.
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How many men go out of their way to ensure the porn they're watching is not rape?
How many men stopped watching porn after this shit came out, and how many will care enough to stop now, considering they that they probably have no way of ensuring they didn't
watch this girl, or countless others in her situation, something similar, or even worse? If you send this shit to your male friends, do you honestly believe they'll stop watching it for the reasons mentioned before?
Answer all these questions before defending men with porn addictions, thanks.
Here's the source in case you did want to send it to them: https://meaww.com/amp/missing-teen-adult-video-pornhub-modelhub-snapchat-periscope?__twitter_impression=true
lmao, you can't just screech away things you don't like. I am not trolling. I had no idea Germaine was a pedophile though so I'll have a look at that.>>495294
How do you even know if something is rape if it doesn't come off as it? Porn is massively negative and I do agree with you that it's bad as an industry and it's bad in the way it afflicts the brain, but that doesn't mean all guys willingly seek out rape porn. More importantly, most people don't even KNOW how negative porn is on the brain, nor do they realise how dangerous the industry is. Do you really think a 9 year old brat is going to understand the entire industry behind the porn vid he sees? No. Porn as an industry should be abolished, yes, but that doesn't have anything to do with my original argument.
>>495291>giving a shit about how feminism benefits men>in this economy
Also, kek at the implication that radical feminism is "furthering the distance between men and women". All that raping and murdering males do, that's not the thing driving the wedge, no siree. It's wahmen's fault.>>495301
Males know how bad it is and they don't care
. They like harmful porn, the more harmful the better.
To be fair, there's a lot of infighting on this board in general.>>495302
My statement of furthering distance had nothing to do with radfem, you saw that entirely on your own. I personally have no interest in creating a wedge between me and guys in my life.
See, here's the generalization again, and from my experiences I just can't agree with you.
Because the entire porn industry is built off women being brutalized and dehumanized.
Everyone who knows anything about porn is well aware that rape and abuse are rampant in the industry. "Porn star" is practically synonymous with "fucked up life".
And yet, many men still
watch it, so that's reason enough to call them out. Not going out of their way to look for it, but being happily complacent with it is still fucking abhorrent.
No one forces a gun to their head to make them watch porn, they're doing it because they enjoy it (especially the violent stuff). In fact, they often respond aggressively to anyone who says porn is bad for their brains, or that it's exploitative. Try saying porn is bad on Reddit or any other male-dominated site and see what happens to you.
9 year olds shouldn't be allowed to watch porn in the first place, but thanks to this male-dominated, pornified society, it's the new "normal". Unless you plan on isolating your children, it probably can't be prevented, and that is the problem.
See, I totally agree with you that porn is really fucking bad and we should abolish the porn industry entirely and put people who force women (and men) into pornography in jail. But I think the major consumption of porn is largely from ignorance rather than malice. I also do not believe that every single moid on the planet seeks out porn that showcases harm towards women, but I will agree that they can be in the majority and probably are. (Just by looking at pornHubs front page for example).
I think if porn keeps going unchecked then we're eventually going to regress into a society where men and women have to live entirely separate to be able to achieve peace, and personally, I don't entirely want that. Not yet.
>>495311>But I think the major consumption of porn is largely from ignorance rather than malice.
Sorry, but that is so naive. If you asked the majority of the men if they think porn stars enjoy themselves, they'd probably say something about how they're drug addicts with daddy issues who deserve to suffer because of their poor choices. They know it isn't fun and games, they just don't care and see it as warranted. And that's the best case scenario, there are still plenty of men who get off specifically on the fact that porn stars are miserable and degraded.
It's only women who ever assert that porn stars not actually wanting the sex they have means it's rape. Men would never accept that coercion is a legitimate type of rape, and they straight up don't give a shit if the woman was trafficked or tricked or whatever. They want to keep thinking that porn stars are suffering because they are dumb lazy sluts who deserve it.
Oh I see you are the type of ex libfems who hate on trannies but somehow are fine with regular dudes
It is very transparent what is going on with you
Don't forget the types of men who actually believe that porn stars are living on "easy mode" for selling their bodies to be destroyed on camera. Tagt it's a privilege to be a miserable porn star. I remember reading a mgtow post where he visited some impoverished area in Philippines or Thailand, I can't remember specifically, but he saw a woman who looked physically miserable being a prostitute. And he still saw her as some privileged cunt1. So he donated money to some man instead who didn't need it. They do not care one fucking bit about the industry that rapes and traffics women.
The other types I think are addicts that follow porn on every social media and believe that the porn stars and cam girls enjoy what they're doing even if it's the most unappealing acts.
There are subs on reddit like porn free and nofap but I'm skeptical since they hardly ever acknowledge how fucked up the industry that hurts them is. And that same industry makes more money annually than the NFL, MLB and Hollywood combined. It's a monster.
I don't mean to sound dramatic but posts like >>495262
prove that we need feminism. It's kinda pathetic.
Reading that comment section was like walking into clown world.
They are literally claiming that sex tourists are doing nothing wrong even though sex tourists are the reason this disgusting market exists in the first place ffs
>>495348>I have the highest respect and appreciation for women in general and this includes women who provide for themselves and their families through prostitution. I don't think any less of them for it.
But they're still exploitable fuckholes for him, the sex tourist. He benefits from being "okay" with their lifestyles and encouraging it. Because he can't earn the trust and respect in order to form a natural sexual relationship with a woman of equality in his own country.
The sex tourist turns to the impoverished, desperate women in dangerous countries and gives himself a gold star by acting like his strings-attached money does them favors. If he cared so much about their situations, he'd treat them like human beings and not like sex servants.
What weak and small men.
Meanwhile you can bet these guys are the same type to be damning single mothers to hell for caring for her children and not abandoning them. Him and his kind should get vasectomies at least.
I hope sex tourism get more exposure from their destruction. They don't deserve any pity.
>>495359>What would be the catalyst for change? Even NAMALT men are passively maintaining the oppression.
The catalyst for what change? Can you clarify? Do you mean the change into men shaming other men, as opposed to the current m.o. of turning a blind eye to their fellow men's depravity/blaming women for it?
I feel like there isn't an answer to this struggle between men and women. There's so many people in the world. Does anyone else feel completely overwhelmed by the pink pill? I feel like a traitor or a coward if I stay uninvolved, though.>>495400
This is so true. Why are women that way and why are men that way? I'll stop asking that itt but fuck I just want to know why it became like this.
Ayrt I came to the same conclusion myself. How does that fit in to the modern world though? I start to get caught up in the fact that we're animalistic but also intelligent and like… capable of not raping and pillaging anymore. I feel like it's a huge weakness in humankind and a maladaptation of natural humans into modern times. Are women made weaker than men by design? Are we (women) just fucked? Did society take a fucked up turn at some point and this is the result? Wtf are we supposed to do? I feel like I should just focus on my own life because it's too big a problem.
I'm not challenging you or anything, just spitballing ideas and hoping someone will respond.