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Sort of got retconned later but this comic
Plot is literally that scientist of an all male robot species wants to introduce women to their species (for fun I guess?) so he forces some dude to transition which makes him into a psychotic killer.
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Gintama makes fun of trannies all the time. >>276436>he forces some dude to transition which makes him into a psychotic killer
This is perfect.
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it was written by a troon tho
I know, and the backlash against the title literally made him stop transitioning. every trans-rights-activist was so eager to be a warrior of justice against the meme "transphobic" title they almost made the author kill himself.
there's a lot of layers to the whole drama.
it's funny, I listen to the clarkesworld podcast and I liked the story without being aware of the whole drama online over it or who the author was. it was mostly anti military in my view.
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Trannies HATE Ace Ventura: Pet Detective. I even saw one say it gave him PTSD kek
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Does this thread include TiF because Japanese otome games make fakebois and enbies seethe so much it's unreal. On popular mobile otome, there's always several negative reviews about how there's no pronoun or gender choices. They virtue signal for MTF protagonists but not even they would play that shit. They say otome's too heteronormative, which well it is, but they're straight themselves and can't accept it kek. They made their own genre to include trannies, pronoun choices, and genders but it isn't enough bc their goal is that all media must be genderfied.
I could go on and on but his game in particular (Olympia Soiree) I've constantly seen TiFs say it "squicks" them out or makes them "uncomfy" or just outright rage.
>Premise of game is for the player character/MC to get married and pregnant to continue her bloodline
>Other characters keep commenting on her husband search and how important it is she has children because she helps the sun rise and might catch the incurable illness that plagues their world
>Each route constantly references a creation myth that describes men and women as soulmates
>Society has a caste system named after colors. MC is of the white caste and constantly praised for her beauty
>The society they live is pretty shit all around which fakebois find triggering and drop it right away even though the point is for you to agree it's shit and all the characters want to create positive change in their own ways.
>Upset at the bishounen/trap character isn't a woman
>>276434>Hard mode: anything Harry Potter-related is not allowed.
What about the Cormoran Strike novels? I've never read them (soon though) but iirc one of them offended trannies because the killer was a guy dressing like a girl to trick his female victims but it's suppsedly not related to troons, although they used it as evidence that JKR is a terf
. The latest novel is about some writer or artist getting murdered and his or her crazy online fanbase, which also made troons seethe hard because they knew JKR got inspired by her own experience with them and other types of crazy fans as well. Please no spoiler, I'd like to read them but I want to finish some books and video games before that!
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>Breath of the Wild
Has a troon character you have to validate to progress in the main quest
>Creating A Champion, the BotW book
Calls the troon a man, shows off his ugly horse face
troons usually love okama characters tho b/c they are liberals who cant imagine criticizing something from a non-western culture. they cant be offended by it, so they cope by saying these kind of depictions show acceptance
in japanese media, when its still making fun of gay men only with a very light hand since Nintendo makes kids games
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ouran high school host club - there is crossdressing used as a joke, two male tranny characters that are made fun of (one of them creepily obsessed with high school boys, pic rel) and are referred to as tranny/with male pronouns, and troons are also mad about the female separatist/misandrist lobelia girls kek. I've also seen tifs get mad about the main character haruhi not being a canon tranny because she dresses like a boy
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The show Portlandia started in 2011 and a real feminist bookstore let them film their sketches about feminists there. Over the years troonism became popular and in 2016 the store revoked access because they said their sketches were transmisogynistic
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the okamas in one piece, even though they're such an accurate portrayal.
unfortunately they later got transwoman kikunojo who just looks like a stereotypical female character with a frankendick.
Gintama has stupid humor, but I wouldn't say it's comparable to Family Guy. It's just silly.
The troon hate isn't anything more pointed than the usual okama jokes you find in JP media, so I wouldn't recommend it just for that.
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Asobi Asobase was posted in the anime and terf memes threads for it's troon-hating (and even male-hating) moments. But I also like how there is a cute fujo teacher (there is also a fujo school girl but it's nice to see grown women portrayed like this) and if it was a western show they both would be fakebois.
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The amount of mental gymnastics that some troons will do in order to prove that the Magypsies are just "male crossdressers" and not real trannies because they have an obvious male appearance and 5 o'clock shadow>>276455
NTA but even though most, if not all Japanese otome games have a huge problem with sexism and romanticizing misogyny (like most media for women tbh, especially in Asia) otome games DO make fakebois seethe. That's why they went out of their way to create so many shitty "otome" games with enbie or ambiguous gender protagonists and male/enbie love interests that no male would ever play, and later had to invent an entirely new term for it, "amare", because they can't stand the fact that otome only has female protags and male love interests. Aidens who like otome will also seethe when you call it a genre for girls (which it absolutely is) because they are "boys" so otome is for "boys" like them too.
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That’s sort of what I was alluding to with the retcons down the line, but during the last few years in general they introduced a lot of tranny shit
Ironically the two characters they introduced are probably the two most hated because no surprise, fujos and consoomer moids don’t want to read about trans lesbians (unless they’re Kevin Gibes).
With that being said the first comic with a tranny character still makes them seethe a lot.
I've always seen the Magypsies TW
'd as transphobic caricature by troons. It's pretty difficult to defend as something else when okama are an established "transphobic" trope
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Kabukicho Sherlock had the most satisfying portrayal of a tranny in media. An obese guy with a tiny dick who corssdressed, had stealth sex while drugging his victims and was secretly the Big Bad of the first cour (killed women and removed the womb of Moriarty's sister as he was killing her - the womb envy is real).
There were literally no differences between male and female in absolutely any of the transformers' universes until mtmte got wokefied.
The only true differences were like, the builds, so yeah, you don't go to war and expect to be able to kill a giant plane when you're a tiny motorcycle, you need the help of your plane friends to kill the giant plane and such, that was the only major important physical difference between cybertronians, either mechs or femmes.
Otherwise you had femme characters with huge, medium, small or tiny builds, with different colors, jobs and personalities.
Were there many femme bots? Of course not, it's a boys' cartoon/comic series, but there were few with interesting stories and that's what used to matter.
Then Elita-one got trooned out…
SA kek yeah I mean its JP women's media so it would definitely would offend lc nonnas' sensibilities too. Personally idc and like my problematic
>>276623>Transformers has trans lesbians
Reading this sentence literally broke my brain because my last experience was with the original cartoon series as a kid and I'm just imagining Arcee and Elita-1 as hons now. >>276747>Then Elita-one got trooned out…
Spoke too soon I guess. It's actually sad how I'm not even shocked by this revelation, retconning iconic female characters as trannies is almost expected by now.
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>>276747>but there were few with interesting stories
To be fair they don't really show up until the MTMTE stuff anyway.
Nickel is definitely the best of the bunch to me.>>276759>retconning iconic female characters as trannies>Iconic
As much as I agree that trooning out a character is pretty dumb either way, I really don't see how she's iconic. The only female character in transformers (at least in it's earlier years) that gets basically any characterization outside of 'being someone's girlfriend' is Blackarachnia who becomes Silverbolt's girlfriend later on anyway.
I'd honestly rather they just keep everyone male.
"Iconic" in the sense that she was created as a female character with authority in a series meant for boys, by 1984 standards that was cool. Arcee was put in because the producer wanted to show her daughter that girls can like transformers too and he had to actually fight Hasbro for it. It was a different time and the standards were abysmal.>>276766
This, I'm only familiar with the first cartoon because I'm an oldfag but you could definitely tell that they were female. Arcee even had heels and thick thighs and Elita-1 had a goddamn ponytail when she was still in her first form as Ariel.
>Starscream gets written as a catty misogynist in a couple of G1 episodes getting immediately jealous of the only girl on the team and calling the female autobots hens
Even after all these years I still see Starscream as a robot Mr. Smithers for Megatron kek
>>276768>"Iconic" in the sense that she was created as a female character with authority in a series meant for boys, by 1984 standards that was cool.
Fair point, I didn't think of the context of the time really but you have a point there. >Even after all these years I still see Starscream as a robot Mr. Smithers for Megatron kek
Smithers isn't a tsundere.
samefag to correct *his daughter because it was a moid, I'm retarded>>276771>Smithers isn't a tsundere.
True, but I can just hear him saying "I think women and seamen don't mix".
Huh… I knew that "trans" had become the popular interpretation of Grell's character in recent years, but such a shift in personality depiction…
I looked up whether or not he's been confirmed as trans by Yana Toboso and all I saw was "has the heart of a woman" or "self-proclaimed woman". Same deal as Kikunojo from One Piece where the "confirmation" is rather neutral and could easily be interpreted as insinuating delusion on the character's part, but fans get carried away and just label the character MtF.
Yes the confirmation was in a guidebook and not very specific, it was the usual slang to mean he's gay. I think the reason why the younger fans find his worst tranny like traits sympathetic is because he's a shinigami and shinigami are people who are punished for committing suicide by being forced to record the memories of dead people over and over again. It's vaguely implied that Grell may or may not have committed suicide because he was a gay man in an era where that was unacceptable and he would have never been able to find love and be accepted by his peers, have kids with other men which is why he killed prostitutes who got abortions, because he was super jealous, etc.
Madame Red has a somewhat similar backstory to this one but she's way more sympathetic imo because she is, you know, an actual woman.
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South Park really makes the trannies foam at the mouth from what I've seen lmao.
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Kek, let's not forget about the episode where mr garrison trooned out. That entire episode was years ahead of its time. Seen so many trannies and their goons be absolutely fine with every joke in south park, besides this one.
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they seethe because it's so true and matt & trey can get away with it bc they are dudes
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Transformers has a complicatied history regarding gender, according to the head writer of the original Marvel Transformers comic Bob Budiansky, he had given genders to the first Transformers and that some were females (like Ratchet and Starscream) but then was ordered to take out that idea since the instructions from the japanese studio wanted no girls. Starscreams original bio had the name Pretty Poison written on it (still visible in one of Shout! Factory's DVD featurettes) and still there are traces of that original design, starscream having a far more smaller build then the other cybernations and Ratchet having a far more "softer" design
I had no idea starscream was originally supposed to be female. That makes their complicated and abusive
relationship with Megatron even worse.
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I think he was supposed to be like a femme fatale and this is Bob Budiansky explaining why he had to axe the concept of female transformers from the show
I remember when Kuroshitsuji was popular and all the fujos shipped Grell with Sebastian. I'm sure the author doesn't really think trannies are valid
either because she's a massive fujo herself so she probably sees Grell as a gay man instead of a woman of any sort.
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>>276817>That makes their complicated and abusive relationship with Megatron even worse.
You say that like it's a bad thing
The point is that fujos who shipped Grell saw him as a flamboyantly gay guy, and treating him as a twans woman is more of a recent thing, although the western fandom was aware of trannyism back then too, but they didn't harass you for using the correct pronouns for him.
And I mean, I don't see why multi-shipping wouldn't be an option. I used to ship everything in Kuroshitsuji myself. Claude best boy btw
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Scum Villain's Self-Saving System. One reviewer on NU was really mad about this single word from the extras.
Tbh I liked Grell as a stupid flamboyant villain and that's it. I'm happy because I know that no matter how much trannies seethe Yana will never make him twans because he's supposed to be an annoying effemminate gay man.
Alois and Snake fans rise up.
The whole point of Grell's character is that he'll never, ever be a woman and it made him seethe even after he killed himself in HSTS rage
but let's assume Yana will make him a tranny. Then what? He'd be an accurate but very insulting portrayal of troons anyway, a faggot who's canonically so jealous of women so much he kills them and mutilates them. If that were to happen (very unlikely, thank god) I'd laugh so hard, I know the girls who like him for being a brave and stunning girls would realize how fucked up that idea is.
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NTA but I had to check his wiki page on the Kuroshitsuji fan wiki and this made me snort audibly. How much self awareness do these people lack?
why did they have to add an "E" on the end. Like it wasn't enough to transwash him, him
as in psycho women killer
because he killed and acted like he does because he would never have a womb and never be a woman. Good god, the fans are fucking dumb and they probable think that every women killer who are slightly feminine as MTF and has a tumblr account dedicated to it
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Grell isn't even a tranny. He dresses as a man, doesn't even attempt to make his voice sound like a woman's and the only 'feminine' qualities he has is acting like a flaming homo.
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Not to off-topic Transformers sperg but I won't tolerate inaccurate shitting on Blackarachnia. It's more like Silverbolt is her boyfriend. Silver has little personality besides being the perfect knight in shining armor female fantasy while Blackarachnia has driving goals and motivations throughout Beast Wars. She has conflicting desires, she undergoes character development, and she struggles with her identity as a brainwashed bot.
Anyways women in Transformers have been around since the earliest days and it's asinine to want to shove them out. Don't get rid of them, make their stories better. Also fuck trannies.
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Picrel are the ones that made me chuckle, is the site real? usually these kind of sites get cancelled by the trannies and handmadiens.>Claire Graham
I saw this and while I haven't watched her interview yet I can tell that I will like it a lot since there has been a lot of misuse if the term intersex and has gotten to the point that you can't really look it up without being bombarded by trans shit and others that has no connection to it
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Imagine being a tranny into anime/manga/weeb stuff and seething every so often, because the Japanese don't care for tranny feelings.
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Well, yeah. What appeal would dating fictional men (otome games, shoujo romances) have to TRANSLESBIANS.
They do impotently screech about 'transphobia' in anime all the time - it's just that Japanese companies give no fucks about tranny hurt feelings.
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Gargantia trannies sexually assault the MC.
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Legend of Galactic Heroes
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Yu Yu Hakusho
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top 10 twink vs troon anime battles
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I think Togashi is interested in crossdressing, not troons. Like it's just a curiosity akin to being gay. To be fair even I have pretty much no problem with traps in anime/manga, they're nothing like real moids and there's nothing woke about it.
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nta but the gender non conforming/trans characters are never sexualised in hxh what are you even talking about? There is things to complain about in the serie but this is just not one of them imo.
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It always amazes me that all people just collectively agree that Togashi is pro-lgbt instead of just some guy who fetishizes trannies and crossdressing boys. Most mangaka don't have an agenda. It's just fetish stuff.>>288024
Any adult man who draws this many crossdressing young boys is a pedophile, simply as that.
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>>288808>It always amazes me that all people just collectively agree that Togashi is pro-lgbt instead of just some guy who fetishizes trannies and crossdressing boys.
You're allowed to feel that it's creepy of him to create gender nonconforming characters but at this point he has written several characters as gay and trans in a way that is generally well received. It's just logical that people think he is pro-lgbt.
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>>288831>majority of said characters are children
It's quite varied, if I had to make a list of all Togashi's character that have some sort of gender non conforming going on it would go: Alluka (child), Kalluto (child), Kurama (teen), Kyoko Mikihisa (late teen ?), Kurapika (young adult), Tubeppa (adult), Neferpitou (non human but looks like an adult), Miyuki (adult), Melody (adult). Apart from Miyuki, they are all dressed in a normal/non sexualised way.
I'm going to stop with this message because I don't think I will be able to convince you at this point kek
I think he's pretty clearly pro-lgbt. Sometimes he even puts in preachy dialogue about lgbt issues.
Unfortunately he seems unable to create any interesting or important female characters though.