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I rematched with a girl I blocked on an app like a year ago. (It was messy.) We matched on a different app where I use a nickname. I actually really come to like her. We went on a date and I'm planning another.
I'm praying that she doesn't remember me, but if we get serious and she meets my friends/ family she's going to hear my actual name (It's super uncommon)
Should I come clean or just ignore it? I feel like we're different people now and a past argument shouldn't matter. Though, I don't really know her enough to know if she holds grudges.
No. 350835
>>350784The nose piercing will just make you look like one of those TQ+ women imo and I agree with what
>>350811 said. Compared to that, gaining muscle sounds much better idea. Do you already have a masculine clothing style, nonna?
No. 351033
>>351031Awwww congrats nonna this is such a sweet post. I’ve been with my wife for eight years (we’re 32 and 30 now) and honestly as cliche as it is, always communicate and always make sure you want the same things and both wanna work for them to be possible. Respect is huge, same with knowing your gf’s love language and making sure she feels loved and appreciated. The little things mean more than the big gestures a lot of the time, but of course she should reciprocate in kind. Building each other up, being supportive, all that stuff that sounds so blah blah but really matters. Also having fun!!! Laughing together is so important imo. Even if it’s just watching a dumb show or playing a game. My wife and I like to watch stuff we know will be really bad (movies with less than 5 on IMDb for example) it’s like our lil game and we just riff the whole time and talk over it and even now I still get excited when we can have a bad movie night hehe
Wishing you so much happiness w your new lady, nonnabella!!! ♥
No. 351038
>>351031Congrats, going to live vicariously through you for a bit if it’s okay,
nonny. For real, happy for you!
No. 351747
>>351625I remember dating being like this. It was so miserable. Being into nerdy shit and hating concerts/clubs shrinks your dating pool. It might be frustrating (especially with the unicorn hunters and men) but you might find someone you like!
I personally am a bit nerdy with a big love for anime events (not cons, they're more like anime themed parties). I personally really want a gf who'll tag along with me, possibly cosplay and show me her hobbies. I need a nerdy gf who gets me
No. 352134
>>352126Aspiration wise? What do you mean by that?
If your personalities are similar, there has to be something you have in common.
No. 352326
>Be me
>Realize I'm a lesbian in my early teens
>Date a cute girl and enjoy every second of it
>Suddenly overcome with huge amounts of internalized homophobia and self awareness in my late teens due to moving to a more conservative environment
>While simultaneously setting everyone's gaydars off just screaming at people, women flirt with me all the time
>Am actually a really attractive butch if I might say so myself, good looking face, well mannered, charismatic, well spoken, funny, good conversationalist, muscular, very promising career prospects
>B-but no, I-I can't, nonnies! I-I'm not a lesbian! I'm normal! B-bisexual at most!
>Become the boyfriend experience for every LUG nevertheless but refusing any relationships because no-no, not a lesbian! Just having fun, h-haha!
>Late 20's
>Depression hits me like a dump truck and it's made even worse by the pandemic and social isolation
>Early 30's
>Have an epiphany after realizing that you're in your 30's now and you still never in your life have felt sexual feelings towards men or found them attractive
>I guess I better finally accept it and start living my life true to myself, a real movie moment
>However, all the numerous girls that surrounded you are gone now
>They're dating men and some of them even had kids with them, even the ones who swore up and down on their lesbianism
>The ones who didn't trooned out and the new lesbians you meet are the most boring kind of wine&travel normies that you are just are utterly unable to connect with
>Your own looks are fading and the mental damage depression has crippled your ability to forge interpersonal relationships, you're not the cute and fun 23-year old heartthrob experiment anymore
>Constant awkwardness among my peers and coworkers seeing them talk about their kids while I'm there trying to hide the fact that I'm childless, single and not straight to avoid looking like more of a freak to them than I already do looking like a haggard middle aged dyke
>Genuinely think about ending it all when I come back home to my empty apartment that will stay empty probably for the rest of my life
Young lesbos, do one thing for me and please embrace what you are and live out your best life as far as you can. I don't know why I wrote this, I guess this is just the only place where I could imagine at least one person will get it. Sorry.
No. 352328
>>352326Your story touches my heart
nonnie. Internalised homophobia is a terrible affliction. Over the years you may have deteriorated in some ways, but that lovely, sensitive soul has always been yours. You're still lovable. We can accept that we are lonely/single
right now without "accepting" that we'll be lonely/single forever. There's a difference between acknowledging our current pain and hopelessness, and giving up entirely.
The world is a crazy place, who knows what will happen and who you'll meet. I'm still rooting for you and your future wife, and your happiness in general.
No. 352332
>>352328Aw thanks
nonnie. I don't have a lot of lesbian friends (in other words, none) so I don't really get to talk about this enough to gather my thoughts regarding it, so it ends up feeling like an endless void inside of me that keeps growing and becoming heavier the more I suppress it. It's really, really hard and painful to fake being happy for my friends who get engaged and move on with their lives and I genuinely do wish them all the best, but I just wish it was me for once. Internalized homophobia is a life-ruining bitch and the "why does everything have to be gay now!" whining comes from such a massive place of privilege, maybe if we had the representation we do now when I was younger I wouldn't be here picking out the best rope for myself. Being loved and accepted is a basic need after physiological needs and we as a society tend to forget about that a lot. Anyway thanks for your reply. It feels nice being heard for once.
No. 352333
>>352332Yes, it hurts the more you keep it bottled up, and the worst part is that your feelings are totally natural and expected, yet still seem inappropriate to some. Envy included. It's painful to watch others have joyous experiences that seem so far away (and at times impossible) for us.
Have you tried journaling? It's not the same as talking to another person who understands, but at least you can get it out of your head. And you don't need me to tell you this, but you're always welcome ITT. /lg/ is rather hit or miss but there's no shortage of women who know your pain.
No. 352382
>>352326young 20's lesbian, i'll do my best
nonnie. Just got out of a 'passionate' friendship with a girl who may be bi but will date men exclusively for the rest of her life. it's tough out here too, and i wish there were any actual single, interesting lesbians within like 50 miles of me. I don't think it's too late for you though.maybe she's not out there right now because she hasn't come out yet herself, or is in the midst of ending a previous relationship.
No. 353511

>>353505Sounds like internalised homophobia and misogyny is eating away at you. You won't be feeling like this forever and you CAN overcome it. In short, you need to undo society's brainwashing and remember that being a woman is not just the only thing you can be, but the BEST thing you can be.
I think a good way to start doing that is to embrace your femaleness in every aspect of your life. It might feel silly at flrst, but you can try making lists of everything you love about being a woman, about being a lesbian, and your unique advantages over men or things that are exclusive to the female experience. Ask your girlfriend to do the same, and any other close female/lesbian friends of yours. Hell, you could ask any random woman what she likes about her sex, just to see how diverse we are in the things that we notice and value.
You don't have to explain to these people the exact reason for your questions or anything about your struggles, but I would encourage you to open up about how you've been feeling to people you can trust. Your feelings are more relatable than you realise, and feeling alone or "insane" is a big contributor to your suffering. To me it seems that one of the main components of this problem is shame: you're ashamed of your insecurities and your dysphoria. Take a look at vidrel for more information on shame: where it comes from, how it binds us, and what to do about it.
Also, if you're interested in the fantasy or myth genres, spiritualism, or even just writing, you might like the book The Heroine's Journey by Maureen Murdock. It's all about the return to and acceptance of femaleness, and you'll see that countless women have rejected themselves just as you have. You are not alone in this and you have nothing to be ashamed of.
Normally I would recommend therapy, but the field's been overrun by genderism and they'd probably push you to transition. All I can say is that if you do go that route, don't talk about dysphoria itself until you really trust that person. Stick to working on self-esteem and emotional regulation. Of course you can do those things by yourself, too, but it does help to have people around guiding you and keeping you accountable.
Every time you have those thoughts "it would be better if I was a man" or anything like that, just… pause. Take a moment to notice that you've done it again. Don't beat yourself up or try to quickly change the subject, in fact don't do anything. All you need to do is be aware of it, and to know that it's just a thought you had, not at all a statement of fact.
I hope these ideas are helpful in some way, and that as time goes on you gain some more clarity about yourself and your feelings. I'm wishing all the best to you and your girlfriend. One day at a time, Nona. You'll make it. You're already on your way to a peaceful life full of love.
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>>353915I was also looking for some lesbian visual novels the other day, but most of them seem like bland scrote shit with the same animu faces unfortunately. I recently found out about 'A Summer's End - Hong Kong 1986' and I haven't played it much yet to make a judgement of it, but it looks promising!
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>>353915It's more of a vn then an otome game but I been looking forwards to this one. The game won't be out until next year though.
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I told my girlfriend that my sister said that she (my girlfriend) doesn't actually love me and is just pretending to be in love. My girlfriend cried and said that I shouldn't rely on other people's judgement to understand her. Then she left. I'm not going to be seeing her in a week. What do I do now? She hasn't sent me any texts after that.
No. 354115
>>354091AYRT. I hadn't thought of it from that perspective and I can see how, if that's what OP was really struggling with, then I had a fundamental misunderstanding of her worries, making my advice ineffective at best and harmful at worst. Thank you for chiming in. Do you have any suggestions for that poster? Anything that's worked for you?
If the main problem is societal rejection then IMO a good approach could be (1) serenity and (2) found family. Serenity meaning letting go of that which we cannot control— namely rejection by others— and refocusing on that which is within our power— accepting ourselves as we are. Also a myriad of other things like curating our environments and consumption, escaping dangerous locations, pruning our social circles. That's what I mean about found family. We have the power and the responsibility to surround ourselves with loving people whom we cherish in turn. Obviously that's easier said than done but, butch lesbian or not, loneliness kills. A third thing, I guess, would be some kind of advocacy, a way to "give back" to other women and girls who might be struggling in the same way.
But this is all pretty general advice, and potentially still way off mark. I guess that's what happens when you consult anonymous posters on a free range cattle herding forum.
No. 354209
>>354117ayrt this was a real conscious process so i will share my steps
>get uninvolved with codependent internet bff/gf>get on tinder and meet aimlessly with women who seem nice to chat with>(lose weight to normal bmi through r/loseit method )>do things alone like travelling and going to movies and concerts so i have lots of interesting anecdotes to tell>start a small school program full of normie people my age who all hung out together >do everything i get invited to and also invite people to do things especially in groups until they realize I am nice and fun>become normalerwhole process took about 4 years and i started around 22/23 (but I know women, especially gay women, who have done same or similar into their 30s). Also ty everyone for thoughts on my romantic situation
No. 354306
>>354210Is this some kind of lesbian gene indicator? Can same sex attraction be determined by finger length ratio? You got me staring hard at my and my gf's hands
nonny kek
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>>354313I forgive you,
nonny.
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Nonas, do you have any experience dating autistic women? Or could you offer any advice regarding how they express their affection? I'm unsure if a girl I've been talking to for the past few weeks is even interested in further pursuing a relationship. She's been pretty distant lately, she doesn't really write much, but she haven't told me that it won't work out. I don't know if it's a neurodivergent thing or if she really just lost interest. I'm pretty lost when it comes to relationships as well, don't really have an understanding on the concept of love, but I do want closeness. I'm just unsure if there are any boundaries I should be aware of, or accomodations I should make.
No. 354748
>>353915Sorry to be annoying especially since this was a few days ago, but just to clarify: otome specifically means a game where you play as a woman pursuing men. Some otome will have female routes, but typically they are "friendship routes" with occasional romantic undertones, and this isn't very common anymore. What you really want to look for are yuri VNs. Problem is that most of them cater to men.
Your best bet is to look for western-made visual novels that have both male and female love interests so that you can choose who you want to pursue. Try searching "amare games" as that's the definition decided upon for this type of game with mixed gender LIs. You can check itch.io, but some examples are When the Night Comes, Errant Kingdom, and Arcade Spirits. You can also check out the creator "ebi-hime" on itch.io as they create lots of different LGBT+ visual novels, quite a few of which are yuri games.
Just wanted to clarify so that you would have an easier time finding games in the future!
No. 354948
>>354210i'm
a kinsey 4-ish bisexual and my ring fingers are longer
No. 355056
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Nonnas, I am craving positivity. Can you tell me some good things you love about your girlfriend/fiancée/wife? Like what is she good at? What does she do that makes you laugh? What drew you to her to begin with?
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>>355056Girlfriend of 5 years. Met online, did ldr for about 2 years (It was very painful, but worked out). I love how sweet and caring she is. Completely contrasts my cold exterior. I can show sides of myself that my own family and friends haven't witnessed around her. We have a height difference with me being the taller. So it's cute when she tells me how safe she feels around me and how she feels protected. We both understand each other on a level I couldn't find anywhere else. I have a huge attraction to her long hair and freckles.
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Alison Bechdel looks so fucking cool and she's a style inspiration to me, I want to have even half of her swag as a grandma butch. I don't care if this makes me an ~Aiden~, I like that she's presenting as unapologetically non-genderconforming and looking so good doing it. Sorry for sperging but I'm so desperate for butch role models like this.
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so…i already tried asking everywhere, but i really wanted to at this thread.
where do i find lesbian friends online? maybe there are some lesbian discord servers i don't know about…
No. 356894
>>356848I know exactly how you feel. Even though the 5 years was kind of grueling, I would rather wait for someone who matters than waste it with heart break or for some asshole.
I've honestly been dating for about 2 years now and not a single person until recently has been decent.
>>356823Same finding a lesbian has been so rare in 2 years of many dates I have only actually met 2…
I'm seeing a bisexual woman now. But she seems nice enough. She has said nothing about gender issues and is actually competent sexual. Like she doesn't expect me to become her man.
No. 358135
>>357074This is me. I'm actually always worried people will think I'm into her because she's very conventionally attractive, but she coudln't be further from my type.
It's an irrational anxiety, but it's ramped up to 11 lately as I'll be speaking at her wedding soon and I'm scared any heartfelt message will make people jump to conclusions that I'm secretly in love with her or some shit.
Roast me for this nonnas so that I can get over it.
No. 358149
>>358122I deleted my rant on it but…
TLDR we have to live with the risks of being women, but also being lesbians, while also being ideologically diverse. It makes it harder to socialize with new people.
Also I have been thinking of a code only traditional lesbian bar on vrc. I know weird and hyper likely to fail and be infiltrated but a girl can dream. If any one has a lesbian only friend group online let me know. I live in bumfuck!
No. 358717
>>358649Honestly I know many families with adopted children and they're fine. Some of them come from
abusive families, while others are not and when they're older they keep in touch with their bilogical parents if they're able to. But all of them are happy with their adoptive families, and is definetly way better for their develoment to have one instead of living on an orphanage.
Most likely people who say being adopted traumatized them is because their adoptive parents are shit, (if the kid is from another country) were forced to fully assimilate their new country's culture and never learn a bit from their and/or weren't allowed to know their biological family. And again, probably because they don't know how shitty orphanages are and the way the second you turn 18 they kick you out.
No. 360040
>>359792there's lesbihonest-art(makes the comic leasebound), pillarsalt(illustrates animals), redkatherine(but she's not active anywhere), and shepple(worked on heartbeat rpg) for lesbian drawing artists that are explicitly anti-trans.
making your own stuff would rock though; there's barely any out there
No. 360519
>>358649I had this question many time with friend who were adopted and older family members and there is 2 main issues to me :
The first issue is the identity aspect like
>>358741 explain well. The part that is the hardest for kids born from sperm donors,
and especially prevalent in the emotional upset of the kid is that it's not infortunate events on his biologial family who cause the origin of the issues ( like for adopted kids ) but it's a CHOICE by their parents, the one taking care of them and trying to help them through it.
The second issue is that people tend to base their way of treating and being treated by others on how their close family act. If a boy only saw women serving him and no man serving women he will not learn how to treat and be useful to women, I do think girls are less affected by it but boys certainly are, they do need to be led by exemple.
Maybe if you have very close male family members who can help you at home often and is safe to be left with the boy it could help. And since it's a 50/50 % chance to have a boy it's quite risky.
To end on a not too pessimistic note I do believe it's possible with a strong extended family to have biological children , if I could I would try to find a wife who's could have a donor from her family, or have a donation from a man who you are friend with and know his extended family well. I do believe Lesbian are 100% better fit than straight couples to adopt girls.
No. 360819
>>359792If you're into manga most yuri artists who are female are quietly
terf-y in their belief that men can't be women so most stories won't touch gender shit with a ten foot pole. However, if you run into a female artist whose main interest is hetero romance or BL, don't bother.
No. 362391
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How the fuck am I still a virgin at almost 26? I keep thinking about this every day now. Sure, I'm socially retarded but many awkward lesbians manage to find gfs. I do not seem to attract women irl, I feel like women pity me at best and outright hate me at worst. I think this is due to me not having anything in common with them, specially since I'm a huge womanchild into anime and vidya, so I very rarely get to "click" with women irl. Then there is the thing that my teeth are absolutely terrible and I need to get them fixed to improve my looks. I'm not fat or deformed and my face is pretty ok, but my parents never fixed my crooked teeth as a kid so now I gotta deal with it. I have the money to get the implants and all sort of shit, but I probably won't because I'm fucking terrified of getting a giant ass syringe in my mouth to numb it. Just thinking about it makes me reconsider that bitches ain't worth going through that and burning all my savings. Then what if even after fixing my teeth women still don't like me? I would be a poor 26yo with pretty teeth and a terrible personality that women hate. Now how do you even get to change your personality in your mid 20s, I feel like if I tried to stacymaxx I would not be myself, not to mention I would probably fail at it since I'm socially retarded, and the women that I could potentially attract by being a turbo normie are not the kind of women I want in my life, which I feel is part of the problem as well; the kind of girls that I like are not that common (at least in my country). Still, I would accept sex from a Stacy though. Not that stacies like me anyway, that's just a hypothetical scenario I've thought about. I say this but in reality it kinda terrifies me to have sex when I think about it and if a hot Stacy would offer me free sex I would flee from there, or I don't know, if I'm drunk and super horney maybe I could dead fish, or touch her a little. Honestly I'm unable to imagine a realistic scenario with that premise, even I don't know how I would react. I think I definitely have some intimacy issues probably due to a mix of never been much of an affectionate person and also social isolation. I had a LDR Internet gf once, I remember I could never treat her kindly like normal people do. The way I would show my affection was buying her whatever she wanted. I noticed that's something I do with people I love, both friends and family. I can never say kind words to them, on the contrary we always bant with insults, but that doesn't mean that I don't care about them, and whenever I go out with them I try to pay for as much as I can. Anyway, my ex hated that about me and I never was able to change it. I can imagine that having another gf would be putting another woman through the same unfortunate shit. Maybe it's actually for the best that I'm not in a relationship. I would still like to have sex someday though, I should man the fuck up and rent one of those Japanese lesbian prostitutes then off myself. Thanks for reading my blog.
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>>359792Hi, nona. I know it's not exactly what you're looking for, but there's this fan artist, Nikotine, who's a lesbian and has openly made "trans-exclusionary" statements on her Twitter years ago. Her then-girlfriend (I guess her wife now? I'm not sure), Shepple, was the lead dev of the indie game Heartbeat, and she seems to be just as anti-troons as her gf kek. Unfortunately, they're not active on social media, but even if you're not into games, you may enjoy seeing a lesbian couple who are artists and stand up for female homosexuals. Here's the link for the drama that Nikotine's comments caused (picrel) but they never apologized kek
https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/heartbeat-trans-suicide-rate/ (this article is pro-troons tho)
No. 362537
>>362524My teeth are in a pretty bad state right now, probably the worst they have ever been. Plus I've overheard women say that their only dealbreaker is bad teeth multiple times before so I know it's something women actually care about.
>you being super out and making it clear to other women that 1) you exist and 2) you're gay and 3) you're single and trying to dateHonestly I've thought about it and I've tried it a little but it makes me feel very uncomfortable to signal others that I want pussy. It makes me feel like some sort of desperate sexual predator creep. I dunno, it's just weird. And yes, I don't pursue women at all because of what I just said. What's the point of pursuing girls when they are all taken anyway, just makes me look creepy combined with my ugliness. I actually sent a girl from uni a yuri meme and we talked for like 5 minutes and I could tell she was uncomfortable as fuck. She hasn't talked to me since. I really really should just kill myself.
No. 363151
Hey nonas, any of you know what's up with the fakeboi/TIF thread and their blatant hatred for women who do not perform femininity? Is that thread filled with conservative women and moids and somehow I've missed this information? I don't lurk there all that much, but I've been reading that thread a lot this week and it's shocking how many times I read that a woman who wears baggy/"men's" clothes, has short hair, and wears no makeup is a "retarded autist wasting her beauty". It might be a weird example/tangent, but years ago when all that controversy surrounding the reboot of She-ra was happening, I watched a video on the Qartering (I had no idea how bad that was prior to that), and that homophobic guy literally showed a pic of Noelle with short hair and said "see. this. obviously a boyish lesbian (…)" and there was so much disgust in his voice tone that was obvious Noelle being a boyish lesbian was THE argument he was using to shit on her, there was nothing else to be said bc anything could be more pathetic than being a boyish lesbian. See, I'm no Noelle Stevenson's stan. Actually, I find her insufferable, and I don't even like She-ra (I don't think it's that bad plot-wise, but I wouldn't say I like the step-sisters stuff, I hate the toxic relationship, and I hate all the tranny-coded characters). But his words were just gross, that was just blatant homophobia, as if being a boyish lesbian could remove any possible credibility a woman could have. So, that's the vibe I get on the fakeboi/TIF thread. That doesn't seem to be about how gender ideology is harmful to society, mostly women and children. No, it's about hating GNC women for not looking like Barbie, so hey let's make fun of those ugly, subfemales. If a TIF was conventionally feminine and attractive before trooning out, then "what a tragedy to see a beautiful woman ruining her precious beauty". If the TIF was obese or something before trooning out, then no empathy let's just laugh at this fat, mentally ill uggo. FFS, that thread is filled with tranny logic. The very same arguments TIMs use to say they're more real women with their drag makeup and wigs than GNC radfems, and the very same arguments regular moids use when they feel intimidated by a conventionally attractive woman who's unapologetically homosexual. It's very tiring to start using this website to escape the misogyny and regular and woke homophobia of every other online space, just to read shit like this. Sorry for the rant, nonas.
No. 363209
>>363151lolcow is suffering from malignant, late-stage trad cancer. Try not to let it bother you too much. I've stopped lurking most of the site except for the lesbian threads and a few others because it's getting really bad.
Unfortunately this is the natural life cycle of imageboards. 4chan was never good, but it was better before stormfront took over. Something Bannon-esque has been happening here too I think (and every female dominated online "
TERF" community, look at Ovarit and
TERF twitter). Take disenfranchised terminally online women and funnel them into alt-right bs. Sorry for schizoid take but I'm probably not wrong.
Maybe someday we'll make a new imageboard to migrate to, and it'll be good for a few years before the cycle inevitably starts again.
No. 363218
>>363151I suspect quite a lot of the vitriol comes from the girls in question being someone's personal lolcow on another platform, calling a TIF an ugly lesbo with wasted pretty privilege will get them cancelled off the face of the earth if they say it on tiktok so they say it here instead.
There always seem to be ex-gendies who're discussing their own feelings about themselves, their bodies and transition, but applying them to the cows. I think this is where a lot of the seething over looks comes from, women feel pressured to be beautiful 24/7 and if you're not Barbie then you must be a man deep down, so they feel mad that a beautiful woman is encroaching on their tranny territory when she's too pretty to need to transition.
Most gendies are lesbians in denial (ghey boifrens who are also TIFs abound for a reason) and they're plagued by internalized homophobia, so yeah. Shitting on lesbians is par for the course for them.
No. 363257
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i wish i could finally date a terfy woman but the only women i've clicked with personality and interest wise have all been tifs. i don't even know if i could find a radfem/gc lesbian my age that doesn't live a continent away.
i don't really mind my current gf being a tif since she doesn't really bring it up, doesn't throw fits about being called "she" and doesn't plan to transition, but god i fucking wish i could find one woman who i get along with and who isn't a troon/handmaiden.
No. 363527
>>363518There are a few types I've seen. There's the lesbian tomboy rationalizing her gender non-conformity that gets talked about here a lot, it's legit very common. There's also the straight or straight-leaning tomboy rationalizing
her gender non-conformity though, that never in my experience goes FtM but sometimes becomes enby. The fujoshi with autoandrophilia - that's usually enby, sometimes FtM but I've never seen them medically transition.
No. 363549
>>363544Because according to them they are as
valid and as lesbian as anyone else. Don't wanna be a bigot.
No. 363588
>>363539Yeah why not
If I can sperg to a girl about anime and romance, it's a win
No. 363846
>>363151God you butch/GNC women are so sensitive it's not even funny. YOU made a choice to present yourself as masculine as possible and deviate from societal norms, of course people are going to think you are weird or laugh at you. Most people will laugh at anyone who comes across as extremely LARPy, especially if they are ugly and fat. It's just normal. If you don't want to be oppressed then stop dressing and acting like a laughing stock. Learn to laugh at yourself and get rid of your little
victim complex.
No. 363851
>>363846Agreed and I've always found it ironic that the ones presenting as butch are the most sensitive and emotionally manipulative. There's this massive
victim complex, yet it seems like people are allowed to shit on femmes as much as they'd like because they can disguise their nlog misogyny as trying to help women break free from supposed standards or they'll just deem us trannies when we're not.
No. 363854
>>363852Nta but I don't see how this is tradthottery in the slightest. I don't know about the other nona, but I've been using lc since 2015 and I feel like I've seen the gradual acceptance of shitting on femmes/lipstick lesbians and its ironic given how many anons came here directly from /cgl/. It does feel like whenever anybody challenges butch women, especially on here, they're extremely defensive and quick to deem others as sell-outs or decry any femme for femme spaces as tranny havens. Its tiresome and aggravating, because you'd think that other women would just have the stance of 'hey whatever you feel most comfortable wearing!' and leave it at that.
I don't like the not so subtle attempts at flinging shit at us all for what seems to be sour grapes that nobody wants to date them. It doesn't mean I wish anything bad upon them, but its very exhausting and dissuades me from making connections.
No. 363878
>>363872uh, yeah, average moids aren't terminally online weeaboos. this opinion is based on me being an actual job having person who deals with normies/the average people all the time
>>363870why do you give a shit honestly
No. 363894
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>>363891Who hurt me? Oh, you mean this creature? Yeah, I guess this thing stumbling into you would be pretty painful.
No. 363896
>>363895>image random basket caseAccording to butches with
victim complexes everyone is shitting on them and they are soooo oppressed guise. Yes I'm so scared of the power of your whinging!
No. 363897
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>>363894its okay anon i forgive you. i hope you can learn to be a more kind and compassionate person one day
No. 363914
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Just ask yourself, how many heterosexual women do I know that are obsessed with yuri? Heterosexual women are like 90% of the female population, while lesbians are less than 1%. This means that statistically there should be waaaaay more heterosexual women who obsess over yuri than lesbians that are fujos. So then, how many do you know compared to lesbian fujos? If the answer is essentially zero, why do you not question the existence of lesbian fujos?
No. 363917
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>>363915It's not that they are fujos, it's that they are bisexuals in denial. Even non-weeb bishits in denial are delusional as fuck. Just admit that you like men instead of making people think that lesbians love men and dicks and gay men holy shit.
No. 363941
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>>363940And lesbians naturally give a fuck about men because they are women? What?
No. 363950
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>mfw the lesbian fujo fears the gachirezu yuri due to male gaze despite being created by a female lesbian author
>mfw the lesbian fujo is unable to read the gachirezu yuri without violently ejecting fluids from all her orifices over the disgust of seeing 2D women having loving sex with each other without a penis on sight
>mfw the lesbian fujo is unable to read action gachirezu yuri because her internalized misogyny tells her that women can't be cool and her latent bisexuality only makes her attracted to male characters
>mfw the lesbian fujo tells me that yaoi is not about the coom while consuming brutal rape shotacon pedo fics because she cannot flick her bean if there isn't a mention of dicks and cumshots and teared anuses every 3 words
No. 363960
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>>363958ngl one of my fetishes is to cure a fujo from her bisexuality by going from brutalizing her with my strap to gently fingerbanging her but she stays my sex slave forever.
No. 363969
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>>363962Sorry, I forgot you're not sexually attracted to women so let me rephrase that for you
>ngl one of my fetishes is to cure a het boi from his heterosexuality by going from brutalizing him with my manly cock to gently fingerbanging his anus but he stays my sex slave forever uwu No. 363978
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>>363973Inshallah I will make a fujo forget about bishies someday.
No. 363983
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>fujo meltdown
lmao. If you don't believe I'm a foid hit me up, qts.
kek#5453(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
No. 363991
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>>363988Eh, I guess you could say that, although I haven't been a regular for over 5 years.
>>363989I can VC you without fear, sweetie.
No. 363995
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>>363994So if anime men are essentially anime women why can't you imagine these two girls are men with long hair and become a yurichad?
No. 364004
>>363998Talk to me instead calling me a tranny because you disagree, coward.
>>364000Fujo does not equal liking some gay ships from time to time. Fujo is being absolutely obsessed with yaoi and having BL brainrot. I have watched a couple yaoi anime before, but I don't obsess over it or fictional men.
No. 364014
i normally hate troonfoiling conspiracy theories on this site but this thread got so gross and weird today it could be none other than a false flagging tranny or tardthot trying to make lesbians look bad.
>>363991 based taste in games though
No. 364086
I am not at all surprised that the sperging against butches and fujos and a scrote outing himself happen coincidentally at the same time.
>>363151Because they're homophobic and that thread has been lesbophobia central since at least 3 years ago. No buts or ifs about it. There's your short answer, no armchairing, just saying as it is. It all comes back to good old fashioned hatred of us disgusting dykes.
No. 364087
>>363914I know this is the retard scrote baiting but for future reference, all the female yurifags that I personally know are straight women as are most yuri mangakas. I don't know a single lesbian woman into yuri, they're more into creating their own F/F OCs and stories than reading yurishit because they all say the same thing - it's boring and unrelatable, either grossly infantilizing or uncomfortably sexualizing. Het women eat that shit right up because their image of a lesbian relationship is an idealized sisterhood of two attractive women giving each other the emotional connection average moid isn't able to provide. That's why straight women also have ignorant takes like "I wish I was lesbian, you don't know how bad we have it for being attracted to our oppressors" you see on lolcow from time to time.
>>363854I have not once on my 8 years on Lolcow dot farm seen anyone systemically shitting on femme lesbians, ever. Unless you're talking about people making fun of trannies and their transbian catgirl aesthetic which in turn has nothing to do with femme lesians.
No. 364097
>>364095Sexy ESL.
>>364096Yeah, I'm tired of getting ad hominem'd despite offering to chat privately in good faith.
No. 364098
>>363209I guess the appeal of staying anonymous is what attracts them everywhere. A big part of the current tradwave on Lolcow seems to be from Tiktok refugees who keep insisting that they're fully justified in making bigoted statements because "they have no other place to go to" as if the problem is the SJW gay illuminati controlled world around them and not their small minded self thinking a woman having short hair and a masculine way of dressing is upsetting.
>>363218The fakeboi thread in particular has the peculiar trait of reposting the same eldritch horror troons that have been in circulation for years over and over again and then applying their schizo behavior on your average pink haired Aiden. Like no I genuinely don't think some random Twitter he/they will think that breast cancer patients should give their surgery slots to FTMs and I also don't think they want to be pozzed with HIV to feel "validated as a gay man". And I genuinely don't know how the endless images of botched skin dicks or gawking at keloid ridden surgery scars is "milk". They claim to feel pity for women being shamed and sexualized for their bodies to the point they get themselves mutilated but then act like the biggest tragedy was them "losing their feminine beauty", not that they were being made feel like failwomen for not wanting to fulfill the societal role assigned to them.
>>364095I'm not listening to the attention starved tranny's vocaroo but wouldn't be surprised if it was one of those demented Finns kek
No. 364224
I just need to vent. This week was supposed to be the week of our marriage. After that, she would apply for a residence permit to live with me. I wasted so much money, have been in so much stress, but all it fell through, because we were denied visa right on spot. I'm feeling so fucking broken for these past months. There's no hope for anything good happening anymore, although i'm still looking for ways to make it work, i should just give up. And to destroy me further, my home country, the source of all of my current issues, banned lgbt organizations (with really vague rules of that making it possible to persecute over anything gay).
I'm looking back at my teen years, when it was shitty still, but at least there was hope for the improvement. I've been dreaming to go to an actual pride with my girlfriend one day, to see people like us. Naive, sure, but I really had hope for the better life for us. Now, i'm out of hope. I'm an extremist in my home country for loving a woman, I'm a horrible terf in a lgbtlgtvqiap+ for loving a woman and not being a gendie. It sucks.
No. 364232
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>>364226Being a gossip site doesn't absolve the posters from being criticized for contributing to lesbophobia and misogyny, anon. A TiF doing something extraordinarily retarded is gossip, 10 posters replying to a bad dye job writing blogposts about how this personally offends them is not. Just like nitpicking Shayna's vagina isn't "milk" some random troon's top surgery isn't that compelling either, especially when it's gazed upon like picrel. If they can shitpost about how ugly they find fat Aiden X and Z then I can bitch and moan about their low quality posting when the topic comes up.
No. 364306
>>363896You are shitting up the thread seething about butches with retarded lesbophobic tranny-adjacent stereotypes about them being fat, ugly man larpers so how is it an imaginary
victim complex, but this "LC hates femmes" (which your type only thinks because LC doesn't rabidly hate butches) isn't
>>363854 No. 364313
>>363846The thread is about TIFs, though, and it's most certainly tradthottery to take it over with random bitchfests about butch lesbians and other masculine women "destroying themselves" just because you enjoy degrading once feminine women for cutting their hair short and no longer wearing makeup
>>364232The fact they made their way from there to the lesbian thread to double down is so pathetic
No. 364385
>>364312Thanks for the advice!! I’ve been considering checking out more normal shows with lesbian characters, I’ve watched a couple of movies but I usually don’t watch TV shows. Unfortunately the degeneracy I was talking about was actual exposure to porn from a young age and the fact I grew up being friends with coomer porn-obsessed moids(unfortunately my female childhood friends weren’t very different, but they were fujoshis and I don’t really like reading about two men having sex lol) because we liked anime & videogames, and other stuff that I ended up being exposed to. I guess it happens to everyone with unrestricted internet access, maybe it just feels more isolating to me because I happen to be lesbian. Maybe I could talk about this with my therapist but I’m embarrassed to tell her about my sexual orientation after my mom clearly didn’t feel very good about it, which really messed with me personally because I consider her my best friend and her opinion matters a lot to me.
I have a lesbian cousin as well, but my last message to her was so embarrassing I think she hates me lol. My mom doesn’t like her and doesn’t want me talking to her so idk. I know 2 other girls who said they were lesbians and they’re pretty normal, I just didn’t hang out with them because I thought I embarrassed myself and I am really shy.
No. 364396
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>>364388
here you go you worked hard for it nonnie
No. 364398
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>>364396How am I being edgy when normies cream themselves for shit like pic related.
No. 364405
>>364403I will give you a summary of every normie lesbian show ever
>teens or young adults>party hard drugs sex lmao yolo>cheating>bisluts>lesbians trying dick because how do you know you're a lesbian if you haven't gotten dicked amirite>lesbian is evil/possessive>lesbian dies>occasionally good endThis is literally what life is to normies. Party hard, use drugs, cheat, throw temper tantrums to your partner and then live happily ever after. And that's not even getting into trannies. I swear schoolgirl yurishit has more depth than normie garbage. But if this is what you want in your life to be "attainable" go for it I guess.
No. 364413
>>364405Both are garbage. Average yurishit is basically
>Plain Introvert girl meets attractive Extrovert girl>They're both in high school>Introvert fixates on Extrovert girl but it's portrayed as a cute and romantic crush even when it's approaching unhealthy obsession levels>Endless pining of will she confess her feelings, blushing and Cute Girls Doing Cute Things >Extrovert girl suddenly makes the first move>Somewhere a new transbian is born reading itThe direct opposite of the western equivalent and just as tacky.
No. 364422
>>364399You're so easy, nonna. I do apologize for shitting the thread, I really do want to understand the psychology behind lesbian fujos. It just doesn't make sense in my mind, you know. All the weeb lesbians I've talked to don't like yaoi and they also don't agree with the idea of a lesbian fujo. And I have never seen lesbian fujos in lesbian spaces, I guess they all must be in BL spaces or something, so I haven't been able to actually talk with one about it.
>>364411>Or read yuri that moids and trannies jack off toIf it makes you feel better, yuri existed for women first, and there are a lot of female authors out there, I would say more than 60% of current non-H yuri authors are female, either publishing in yuri mags/anthologies or doing doujins. I can give you female author recs that don't do schoolgirl shit if you want.
>I guess I wanted to distance myself from yuri because I found out one yuri writer was a troon (they were selling his manga at the bookstore so I was thinking about maybe buying it but no way I will after finding out) WataOshi maybe? I had to go into several yuri places and redpill them on the author being a tranny, funnily enough I got attacked by more women for it than men.
>Every place for yuri is filled with moid & troons, every fandom for yuri is just troonsStop going to normie yuri spaces. You might not escape moids, but at least in the places that I visit they are strictly anti-troon, and there are also a lot of lesbians.
>It’s impossible for this thread not to go into fighting about troons because they literally rob everything from usI know, I fucking hate it. After 2015 or so saying that you are a lesbian that likes yuri immediately got you labeled as a transbian in many places, but it specially hurts when it's female spaces.
>>364413>>Somewhere a new transbian is born reading itI kek'd. I agree schoolgirl shit is not good, but since I'm not a normie I relate more to those kind of stories rather than parties and drugs.
>>364419I actually second this. Most Korean and Chinese GL is written by women, probably over 95% of it (pretty easy to tell from artstyle and writing). Chinese yuri fangirls are also the most unhinged and rabid yurifags I've met, mad respects for them.
No. 364447
>>364431I'm glad more people are finding out that dude is actually a tranny, most fans still think he's a woman, and I don't want people thinking lesbians support degenerate incest garbage by proxy.
>But if you can recommend good yuri written by women that would be coolI will enlist some of the authors that I think have done good stuff before.
>morishima akiko>amano shuninta>akiyama haru>takemiya jin>sal jiang (I'm in love with her honestly she's so fucking perfect https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIOJZtA8lds)>sudou yumi>yukiko>yamaji ebine>tamasaki tama>shimura takako>fukaumi kon>takano saku>ooshima tomo/towa (they are gfs)>kanbayashi makoto>morinaga milk>flowerchild>nekomura>mikanuji>murata>fujichika>kabocha>canno>yodokawa>hijiki>oosawa yayoi>tamamusi>nishi uko>hayashiya shizuru>usui shio>yuni>momono moto>inui ayu>shino torino>kisugae>schwinn>miman>hayako goto>battan>tmfly>takashima hiromi>kashikaze>sakaomi yuzaki>tokuwotsumuThese are the ones I remember works from at the moment. I also left out some female authors I don't like
such as Kodama and authors that I'm sure are female but nothing is confirmed so I don't want to mislead anyone in the future.
>>364434I was never baiting. A lesbian saying she's a fujo is almost as ridiculous as a tranny claiming he's a real woman.
No. 364448
>>364388ayrt, I didn't say that normie shit was obtainable, I just said that the sort of romance you see anime and manga is unobtainable, which I think is both true and a fact that can feel very alienating to an american middle school weeb who reads too many japanese comics online is all. and again. my example of a show was the wire, not euphoria.
>>364385and yeah sorry, that wasn't even really good advice if you're talking about feelings arising from porn exposure at a young age, but I'm rooting for you to feel better. I spent years feeling very isolated until I made friends and found a girlfriend and after a recent breakup and a bunch of other life difficulties, I can feel the isolation creeping in again honestly. it really is hard to stay grounded and feel normal when you're a minority like this
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>>364447How the fuck can any born woman stomach someone like Milk Morinaga who's genuinely like a 45-year old man pretending to be teenage girl and even recommend it to someone BUT have a problem with Kodama who draws exactly the same kind of shit is beyond me.
No. 364454
>>364452I'm not Morinaga's biggest fan because despite all the seething about Utena fucking Akio (justified), she still did a bunch of het H before going full yuri. Still, I like Girl Friends and that one manga she's still publishing in Galette. All her other yuri schoolgirl works have been super mid and uninteresting.
>Kodama who draws exactly the same kind of shitKodama can't go 5 panels without having some bislut cheating or sucking cock so yeah, I will take Morinaga's boring ass shit over Kodama any freaking day.
No. 364470
>>364467Personally I don't like Kodama because I don't like the type of themes she writes about and bisluts, but maybe you like that, I don't really care if you do honestly.
>they were also selling it at the bookstore so I bought it.Oh man don't tell me it's Netsuzou Trap. Don't read that garbage, it's the absolute worst work she has done. Just read whatever from her in here that's not that and form your opinion based on that. Netsuzou Trap is genuine trash.
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>>364481Sure, GL manga doesn't have many action series written by women, so when I want cool women in action settings I either watch GL-themed anime where it's more common, or I just read non-GL manga that has such characters. You won't find what you describe in BL anyway because the characters are men, and if butches are identifying with male characters instead of masculine female characters that's already showing signs of a psychological or emotional issue such as gender dysphoria or internalized misogyny. Hell, I had gender dysphoria ever since I was a kid until my late teens and I never felt more identified with yaoi rather than manga that had pooners or reverse traps, such as Hourou Musuko. Yaoi never did anything for me at all.
>>364484This too. The standards for masculine women are different in East Asian countries than in America or Western Europe. I don't really feel that attracted to butches anyway, I prefer young tomboys or futches so I probably just don't understand I guess.
No. 364500
>>364481Yeah I don't know if I count as a 'fujo' because I skip the sex scenes and nudity but I do prefer the relationship dynamic and storylines in yaoi. Plus as you said butch4butch does not seem to exist in yuri and most clothed bishonen look like masc females anyway so it's very easy to read them as butch.
I honestly don't know how we're defining fujo though so maybe I do agree with fujosperg because I don't understand why a lesbian would want to read graphic bara porn or something. When I was a teen I was into the KH yaoi fandom and would write genderswapped KH fanfic about an all-butch Organization 13 and that's the type of "lesbian yaoi fan" that makes sense to me.
No. 364519
>>364506I use pooner because I was a /tttt/ regular for a long time, plus I find the pooner pics pretty funny. No deeper meaning behind it I think.
>Your "but they're men" argument would work if the genre was fully written and produced by menMale characters written by women are still male characters. Sure, they are an idealized male, but your brain still registers them as male. They are what you wish real males were like.
>Some people just find it liberating to experience a story about these yaoigender characters that don't remind you of how miserable it is to be a woman constantly being put under a sexualized gaze.That's so fucking weird. I get not wanting to deal with sexualized female characters, stay out of anime then. But turning to vent your sexual frustrations on male characters is not very lesbian at all. To me it sounds like emotional baggage these women have with real men so they turn to fictional males for comfort and date women for real life intimacy.
>>364510I'm so sorry for this, anon. I hope you can stop liking shitty women. I'm not crazy like your crush, but women definitely hate me for other reasons.
No. 364521
>>364506I really don't understand why people here try to analyze fujos so much when there can be so many different reasons for liking BL like you said. It's really not super deep. I personally enjoy some yuri media but as far as fandom spaces and communities go, I tend to stay away because they're unfortunately full of trannies these days. Even if you try to stick with the japanese side of fandom, they tend to have coomer brainrot which leads to futa fanart being unavoidable when you're trying to look through a yuri ship tag. It's depressing seeing an artist who used to draw mostly yuri suddenly swap to drawing nothing but futa.
Fujo spaces don't have it that bad in my experience, in the end the community is still mostly women and there are fandoms that are somewhat troon-free which means you'll be able to find actual gay fan content without too many jumpscares. They just feel safer in a way I guess.
No. 364540
>>364521I'm just tired of the lesbian fujo stereotype that makes people think lesbians' sexuality is fluid or that they can turn them with dick.
>>364531I don't even hate yaoi. I watched Loveless, Umibe no Etranger and 91 Days. Plus when I was in middle school a bunch of fujos made me read erotic Kingdom of Hearts doujins which I found meh. Thinking about it I only have two main problems with lesbian fujos:
- It makes people think lesbians like men sexually
- It doesn't make sense that a lesbian is obsessed with gay males
>>364536No to all of these. Plus I'm not in any server from here.
No. 364588
>>364519>I use pooner because I was a /tttt/ regular for a long timeYeah we can tell.
>>364559It's a waste of time explaining it to her when she isn't open to considering things outside of her own experience and perspective and only drags out the conversation just to have a fight over it. You can repeat "but we don't self insert and mostly enjoy the female community and edgy stories" until exhaustion and she would still go in circles about it. Engaging with an average obsessed fujosperg is pointless, it should've ended with the troonbrained rape fantasies.
No. 364632
>>364559>They don't assume we're interested in them because a tiny niche of terminally online lesbians read about anime boys kissing, it's because they hate us and fundamentally don't respect us or our boundariesNot like simping after fictional men helps anyway.
>I got into BL and M/M shipping when I was very young because the offerings for GL and F/F were few and far between and I hung out in fandoms for girlsWhat attracted you to BL though? I got into yuri 12 years ago despite it not being plentiful at all, but the little yuri out there made me very happy. And during puberty I also hung out with lots of weeb girls who were fujos and tried to get me into yaoi, but reading about two men together in a romantic setting was super boring to me. Given, I never liked anime men or had a husbando (which makes sense because I like women?) so I suppose that's why I find yaoi deeply uninteresting.
>I also read a lot of shoujo when I was young and would pretend the men were butch lesbiansI'm not attacking this, but I find it very curious. I guess I'm too autistic to make up headcanons. Probably why I was never big into fics or parody doujins. This is just something I truly don't understand, but again I don't think I have an issue with it. Just weird.
>It sounds like your real gripe is with lesbian fujos who exclusively consume BL porn and have zero interest in fictional womenWell definitely, but specially the fujos that have husbandos and read erotic yaoi and masturbate to it. Some anon here said she reads BL but skips the sex scenes or something, which sounds fair to me but it's also weird that you read something that you don't actually like? Why would you put yourself through BL works if you're disgusted by them anyway?
>but I just don't see this happen enough to think it justifies the level of sperging about it that happens on this siteNot sure about other places but at least in imageboards those lesbian fujos are pretty common. Maybe the anonymity allows these fujos to admit they like ero yaoi because if they did elsewhere they would have their identity questioned by people that "know" them.
>I see straight girls talk about their waifus all the timeTell me where you see these heterosexual girls who have waifus unironically. Just because they are in a het relationship doesn't mean they are not bisexual. All the weeb girls that I know IRL that have waifus and read yuri are bishits in hetero relationships.
>there are women insisting it's true and honest dyke behavior to have sex with actual real menWell in my opinion if lesbian fujos didn't have yaoi brainrot they very well could be those women if they had LGBTQAII+++ brainrot and were normies instead. Fujos that poon out and used to date women and other fujos already do a 180 and exclusively fuck men afterwards.
No. 364666
>>364636I said I’m in love with the yuri person
>>364628Idk if I should share my discord on here but yeah I’m the same person. I’m not sure if I can help but I’d also like to talk to someone who went through similar experiences as me!
No. 364673
>>364666I made a throwaway mail if you feel like sending it to me that way: 3956334@protonmail.com
I'm not really looking for help, don't worry, it's just nice to know people similar to me exist. Maybe that's "help" in itself, though!
No. 364684
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>>364681I don't need to samefag when thankfully people with a brain lurk in this thread. The idea that lesbians are not obsessed with gaymen and gaysex shouldn't be controversial holy shit. I swear you fuckers are tranny-tier delusional. On a side note, I'm actually sorry for shitting up this thread, but the posters that confronted fujos in the past threads were so easy to give up common sense in order to not start a fight. I get that most women want to be understanding and kind, but to forgo common fucking sense is what got us into this tranny mess in the first place. Fujos might be way more harmless, but it still hurts my intellect to see women being so rabidly set on being lesbians while fucking men irl, and fujos are just one step below by being such huge husbandofags and moid lovers even if fictional because autism. Just absolutely baffling.
>wahh titties trigger me>wahh i can only relate to a fandom that's 90% heterosexual women>wahh i hate seeing women in sexual situations even from female creators thus i must jerk off to dicksAt this point I'm truly convinced that you're not even bisexual. I actually feel dumb for even making that assumption.
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>>364690Ah sorry, I guess femoidy rape fantasies about moids raping moids is more up your alley like in your beloved buttfucking mangoes, unfortunately I don't find moids sexually attractive so I would rather have those fantasies with only women in mind. But of course, me sexualizing women in ways that your heterosexual brain cannot comprehend makes me moidbrained, because lesbians can only validly sexualize women in your own terms, which is some kawaii uguu turbo sapphic handholding rebranded BFF or some kind of shit. I cannot like titties and ass, that's disgusting malegaze stuff. Male male male. I must have males rent free 24/7. I must remind myself constantly that sexy women are disgusting because men like sexy women. I must not have any fetishes that are not hetero foid approved or I'm a male. Because I hate men and because I'm so obsessed with them I must find refuge in 2D world and have a bishie husbando I will gaslight myself into thinking he looks like an anime girl despite not being even close to looking like a trap. I must consoom bishies fucking each other because women are so disgusting they don't turn me on but it's fine because I can pretend bishies are somehow butches with their very butchy proportions and dicks fucking each other in their butt. The epitome of lesbian sex. At last I truly see.
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>>364716I always found this to be absolute garbage just like any other isekai really, but when I found out that the author is a tranny I trashed it. MC is like lesbian Kanako but 1000% more unfunny. Maria Holic is also trash but at least the author is a foid and it makes me laugh.
>>364718>fakePic related what she sent me today at 2AM. She bought VR just for this shit. I know she browses LC so I tried censoring to the best of my abilities. If you're here, I apologize for airing out your business like this.
>wasn't this written by a troon who compares homosexuality to incest in this story?Dunno if in the story but the dumbfuck really went to twatter and posted a "love is love" kind of shit with the incest. Of course since most of his fanbase are western retarded they cheered on him like the stupid tranny cocksuckers they are. I also hate that most of his fans are women. Wish they would wake the fuck up.
No. 364726
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>>364724Do yourself a favor and stop consuming isekaishit. I swear zoomers are unable to have good taste in yuri.
No. 364727
>>364724yeah
>>364725this is the tamest shit ever, it's not even furry
it's just an anime girl with dog ears
No. 364729
>>364725AUGH I DIDNT KNOW THAT EW!!!! I swear everytime I actually enjoy something with f/f ships there’s always a catch. Lesson learned, im gonna wash my brain with bleach now
>>364723I grew up in a conservative country, if I allowed myself to enjoy anything f/f at all, I would have gotten into huge trouble. I was super ashamed of being a lesbian at the time and my preteen brain thought I could “cure” myself by forcing myself to enjoy straight stuff…didn’t work ofc
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>>364729>>364732>I swear everytime I actually enjoy something with f/f ships there’s always a catch>so I usually only see stuff that gets mainstreamYeah, I can see that. If you don't fucking know how to Google, no wonder you all think yuri is by men made for men since you sit on your ass being spoonfed by moids and normies with the shit they like. You can read some from these authors, they are all women(female(XX))
>>364447 or if you tell me what you like maybe I can give you a more spot on rec.
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>>364735I really like fantasy stuff, which is probably why I fell so hard for that one. I read some yuri written by women, but it usually tends to be slice of life. Nothing wrong with slice of life, of course, but I like fantasy settings with royalty, knights, magic and such. Also I’m sorry for having horrible taste in yuri, I have no lesbian yuri friends to steer me in the right direction
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>>364737Tbh I hate the fantasy genre, and also there is not much of it in JP yuri, but I will list out the ones I remember.
>omae gotokiNot sure about the author, but the artist (Minakata Sunao) is a woman "married" to Morishima Akiko, another yuri author. Story is pretty dark as far as I know, so not a comedy like WataOshi.
>sexiledAuthor is a woman, and as far as I know there are a lot of feminist rants in the novels. Personally I don't like japs take on feminism so it's probably cringe but honestly I don't know for sure.
>TentenUnsure about the authors sex, I think they are a duo. Not like it matters though, even if they were women this work reads as if it was written by middle schoolers but if you really like fantasy settings you might enjoy it. The yuri develops quite fast unlike the next one.
>urasekaiAuthor is male. Honestly one of the few male yuri authors that are readable. It's good if you're into JP net and urban legends. Read the novels though, the anime is beyond salvation and the manga is slow.
>the witches' marriageIf you like fluff, comedy and lighthearted series you might like this. I think it counts as oneloli though so careful if you seethe with that, but if you are into it then check out Itou Hachi she also does a lot of fantasy settings.
>akai ito/aoi shiroThese are visual novels. I will be honest, I only played them once like ten years ago so I don't remember much besides them being good and having a whole fucking lot of heavy lore and Japanese mythology. Artstyle is not the best though, since they are early 2000s moe. They are NOT ero btw.
>nagori yuu>negiThese two are female authors that do a lot of fantasy/monster girl romance focused works if you're into that.
>onee-sama to kyojinI know what I said about isekai but the action in this one is pretty good and I like the MC. Author is male though.
>kimishinuI don't fucking know the appeal of this one, I dropped it as soon as best girl died. It's pretty popular in nipland though. Author is female and also does yaoi.
>the princess of sylphIn my backlog, will read soon. Sorta popular right now and looks nice.
>the princess in wolf's clothingKemonomimi in some sort of medieval Europe setting. Pure fluff diabeetus etc etc it's just romance but I liked it.
>simounPic related. It's an anime and hands down it's one of the best I've seen. Even if it wasn't yuri it would be good in my opinion. Like half the episodes were written by >okada mari when she was still good. Beware contains GB (female > male) for plot reasons, but the main characters are never GB.
There are many more fantasy yuri that don't really get translated and they also get axed pretty early on. Overall, fantasy and action are not very popular in the genre, and most of the people who venture to write about it are moids anyway. My honest suggestion is to check out Korean and Chinese GL instead.
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>>364754I know this will sound like cope but I read Itou Hachi for the onee-sans. They are just so fucking cool. Otherwise, not that interested in oneloli. Like for example I never finished works like Yuzumori-san or Be Careful Onee-san since I lost interest. Only loli show I genuinely enjoyed was Ichigo Mashimaro because it's funny. WataTen and TsubaKuma put me to sleep. I really can't stand most lolis.
No. 364807
>>364798Just elaborate on your views and drop the argument after, you posted so much and sound so assblasted i wouldn’t be surprised if a fujo cucked you.
And yes, I’m brainrotted in my own ways but I wouldn’t date fujos because they’re insufferable, I don’t have fujo friends either because pretending I’m into their subpar gay scrote fiction is exhausting, so they can go be “lesbians” in their contained spaces, I simply ignore their posts on here, who the fuck cares? You can’t ban them off the thread and many posters aren’t into weebshit in the first place, so this kind of draggy infighting gets ridiculous fast. Sure, you could go on a different tangent about the current state of imageboards and I would probably agree with you, but that’s beside the point.
No. 364815
>>364807A fujo didn't cuck me but yes, I am assblasted for the same reason I get assblasted when moids pretend to be women or anyone else tries to deny the reality of things for whatever reason. Again, I apologize for the spergout. I acknowledge I did go too far. I did genuinely try to understand lesbians fujos before I lost it to the retarded fucker calling me a tranny and a samefag for the 20th time though. I concede.
>>364809Sure, nonna.
No. 364877
>>364807>fujo cucked youNta but oh my god stop consuming porn. Why would you think about cucking when anons point out women who get turned on by men and male bodies are straight? How pornrot is your brain that you use an insult only pornsick men use? Also stop calling everyone samefag, if you spoke to any lesbian irl and told her you got off to men, she would tell you you are just straight. This isn't some super unpopular opinion.
No one besides fellow male attracted anons think you can like men's bodies and be attracted to them but still call yourself a lesbian. Both fujos, husbandofags and straight anons have tens of threads to post in but you still come here to fight because you get so upset about not being to invade the one place that you're not allowed to talk about your attraction to men in.
No. 364906
>>364877That anon wrote disgusting coomer fantasies about corrective raping fujos into sex slaves and went full scrotelike chimpout on everyone telling her to calm the fuck down and stop shitting up the thread putting her edgy 4chan socialization on full display complete with obsessive descriptions of anal sex and unironical use of stellar vernacular like "foids" and "pooners", loli content apologism and admitting to being a /tttt/ regular of all things. I think someone making a joke about imaginary fujos living rent free inside her head having traumatized her with cucking is the least malebrained thing that has happened in this thread for the past days and she has no right to play
victim over having been called a tranny for acting like a textbook one in a thread that constantly gets derailed and baited by one.
Over fucking Japanese cartoons.It's clear that she has an enormous chip on her shoulder for one reason or another combined with severe emotional issues and I'm seething at the mods for not stepping it despite multiple reports being made by several different anons. It's not even about fujos anymore (if it ever was), it's someone having a full on schizo meltdown and thinking "oopsy woopsy I apologize for going too far!!!" and then getting provoked into continuing again and again puts her at no fault. I remember when this thread was actually respectful and adult having a surprisingly high average poster age a few years ago but now I feel like I'm at least 15 years older than the current generation of people posting here. God bless the great lesbian anons who I've had eye-opening conversations on here but this is it, /g/ is dead and abandoned.
(derailing) No. 364912
>>364911Not everyone wants to read about your degeneracy though. This thread
>>>/g/342326 might be more up your alley
No. 364914
>>364911Her meltdown was
triggered by someone asking "would you date a lesbian fujo", (which in itself sounds like a bait being laid to be honest) nothing more. Nobody was here talking about incest rape, nobody was really even talking about fujoshis before she went on her rampage. The only person who's been talking about gay sex has been her. Having frequented these threads for years literally the only time I even remember fujos bringing their fujo-ism up was someone mentioning that she likes to cosplay anime bishounens with her girlfriend or something and that was a very long while ago, the only other times the topic has come up it's always been someone ranting and raving about fujos being fake dykes completely unprovoked. It's actual mental illness to have a psychotic episode lasting for days like that and start posting vocaroos and explicit sexual fantasies in the middle of it and any marginally sane person will agree with this. When even other antifujos are telling you you're insane then you know you crossed a line.
No. 364915
Posting here because desperate, want input from lesbians and because I'm afraid that depending on where I post I will just get "transition you idiot".
I've dealt quite a bit with internalized homophobia and sexual shame ever since I figured out I was a lesbian, all the way through coming out and starting to date women, and I've never really found a constructive way to deal with it, even though I'm out. I flip-flopped a lot with coming out and with dating women, using Christianity as a crutch to suppress my feelings and to avoid confronting my sexuality in general, as well as the fact that I suspect I have some degree of gender dysphoria (things like hips and height).
I would label myself as butch mainly because it describes my experiences faster and more simply than anything else, but at the same time I've been tempted go on T (or low-dose) for a while, and part of why I haven't is because I guess for a long time I got too fixated with figuring out whether I was trans or not and with having the "right" label (putting myself in a box), and then by being exposed to more radfem ideas that made re-think whether I needed to do anything medical/social at all. So at this point I'm basically just trying to work on trying to get to the point where I can be happy, but it's weird because I'm out as a lesbian to people at this point but at the same time I have all this other identity and sexuality-related stuff going on in the background that no one knows about and I would struggle with explaining anyway. I'm in my mid-20s and I feel that I should have gotten used to living in this sort of murky intermediate area (where my experiences overlap a lot with butches and also with trans people), but I haven't really. I've questioned for long whether transitioning to live as a man (and being read as a man) would make me happy in the end but I'm getting more and more skeptical about whether that could happen or whether I ever even really wanted to be a man or just to get rid of the shame and loneliness (and to cope with dysphoria as I know do by losing fat and lifting weights). I guess maybe looking for a community of people IRL who will share some of my experiences might help. I currently don't spend any time IRL with any lesbians. I've taken some steps relatively recently to look for more community online (on reddit, reading articles and news, etc.), and I've started pushing myself to read things by lesbian writers (like Stone Butch Blues).
I also really want to date someone but I still feel very challenged and afraid of my own sexuality. I generally feel very unattractive and feel that if I do what I want as a GNC person that there's no market for that (which is false I know). I also have garbage body image in general due to being smaller in size and height. The aforementioned internalized homophobia is probably not helping at all. I have the impression a lot of this stuff would be best addressed with a therapist, but I'm a bit worried about whether I'm going to be able to open up about this after holding it in for so long in situ, especially to a straight therapist. Any advice is welcome.
No. 364925
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Stop arguing
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>>364935Wow, how come women only like me when I act like an absolute nigger? My exgf fell for me the same way. When I'm Nice™ I'm essentially invisible to women. What the fuck.
(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE) No. 365049
>>365048I'd also be cautious in this situation. If she's willing to cheat on her husband, she's more likely to be willing to cheat on
any of her partners– which would include future-you, too. Have empathy for her situation, always, but temper your expectations and make sure you can trust her before getting into anything serious.
No. 365066
>>364915it's good that you're working out - physical exertion and improvement does a lot to improve your mental and physical health. Just keep working on yourself and building up your skills so you don't have as much room for and/or care less about, your physical appearance. IRL community (or even a close online friend group) can go a long way in helping you feel more understood and with your "tribe," so to speak. At the same time, try to avoid things/reminders that
trigger your dysphoria the most if you can. I avoided looking at mirrors for more than 5 seconds for like a year, for example. There's no reason why your instance of dysphoria won't also be one of the majority cases that go away one you make it out of your young adulthood.
A lot of transitioners seem to use transition as a bandage solution for a gaping wound of an identity crises/confidence booster that requires uncontrollable external validation to maintain, rather than a "I've tried methods x y z a b c and decided that my mind-body disconnect is so severe that medical intervention has to be in my treatment". What kind of changes are you hoping T would give you? Maybe you can keep a notebook to dissect those hopes and see their underlying roots when you have bits of time, e.g: I'm dysphoric over my voice and it makes me wish I took T -> why? because I want a deeper voice -> why? my voice feels too feminine for me -> why? is it the pitch? speaking patterns? etc? -> if I had a deeper voice I'd sound more authoritative and powerful, and people would treat me as such -> why? because of misogyny. women's voices are described as shrill/soft/submissive/people-pleasing/etc while men's voices are often at worst considered neutral -> the fault is not in my body, but society. Meanwhile, I can practice speaking more confidently with no up-speak, decrease the frequency I use "like/uh/um/if that makes sense?/etc" that make my words lose their momentum.
Maybe reading 'Detransition: Beyond Before and After' by Max Robinson can help you even a little. She's a detrans lesbian who wrote a memoir about her experiences and within the general lgb and tq+ community during and after that time. I'm still on a waiting list to read it from my library, but I've heard great things about it from the desisted/detrans women I know.
No. 366437
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>>366413Yeah this has moid vibes
No. 366455
shut the fuck up about yuri please. all weebs are a terminal cancer on the world
>first crush?
I had infatuations on characters from shows as a kid (Azula from Avatar the last airbender, Gwen from Total Drama Island), but my first actual crush that I only later realized was one, was on my middle school best friend. as little cringelords tend to do at that age, we talked about all the memes we saw on tumblr at lunch and got along like a house on fire. I moved away for high school and she was the only one I bothered to keep in contact with through texts, although we drifted apart when I stopped initiating contact. I even got to a point where I dreamt that we were at a pool party, held hands, and kissed under the fireworks and still came away thinking I was asexual lmao. Luckily I realized in high school that I'm homo
>what were you like as a kid? tomboy? girly girl who made her Barbies kiss?
Total tomboy, I'd run around barefoot all the time and my parents had to twist my arms to get me into a dress, and that was only after hours of fighting. I didn't even register gender roles as anything but stupid for a while, and was surprised when me using the male form of address to other people (ESL) made people around me do a double-take.
As a kid I didn't see much great female characters around on the screen and just kept reading books. I hate that Riordan shilled out to become a clueless woke normie, but Annabeth Chase and Clarisse La Rue were so amazing. Especially in the final book where Clarisse single-handedly cleared several blocks of monsters by herself out of her love and grief for Silena, her dead friend. It was a pretty powerful scene
>lesbian literature
I read Carmilla the other day! Written by a moid but I always heard of it as one of theee books to read when it comes to historical lesbian lit. Ngl speaking from a modern perspective I wish Carmilla racked up a higher body count and thought she was kind of funny for basically being a scummy fuckboi
No. 366486
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Am I thinking too much about this, or should it be considered a red flag?
I've been involved with my partner since early October. We've gone on several dates, she has slept over several times, and I've introduced her to my friends. We've been dating for a bit. She talks about her family and friend often but she has never introduced me, not even to her friends. I once told her that it would like to meet them, but she made it seem like it wasn't worth me time, that they would "overwhelm me with questions" so I dropped it.
I'm just worried that I'm being kept as a secret, or being lied too? It's December, enough time has passed. I haven't even been invited to anything around her neighborhood. All of our dates have been in my area.
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>>366437Next you're gonna tell me that turboshoujo works like this have moid vibes.
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>>366534im sure some anons will say it is because the women are feminine and not awkward nerds or masc
also you gotta spoiler that anime titty, im not a minimodder but anons love to sperg about minor trangressions like that because they have nothing going on in their life
No. 366680
>>366534Source?
>>366540I hate the fact that being attracted to femme/large breasted women or women who wear makeup is seen as treason in the lesbian community especially by weird insecure butch gatekeepers. If you aren’t attracted to flat lanky women with pixie cuts or obese bulldykes with crew cuts you’re seen as a superficial lipstick lesbian with moid taste for appreciating femininity, as a LESBIAN no less. God forbid women who are attracted to femininity are attracted to pronounced secondary sex characteristics.
No. 366693
>>366577You're fucking stupid. Women of all sexualities salivate for a partner taller than them (I seethe because I'm a womanlet but what can you do). The kemonomimi is whatever but a lot of weeb women like that too. Shit there is a whole pedo fujo series with that theme obviously created by a woman. And as another anon said, the author of that one manga I linked is a hetslug with a baby and all. You're delusional.
>>366680>Source?Love and Sex oneshot by Chi-Ran.
https://dynasty-scans.com/authors/chi_ran
>God forbid women who are attracted to femininity are attracted to pronounced secondary sex characteristics.I'm convinced that women like these either have radfem brainrot or have sexual trauma that they project onto others. Or both at the same time. The amount of posts I see on the Internet from young lesbians being ashamed of feeling sexually attracted to women and fear that they are "objectifying" them is dumbfounding. These girls get gay converted into becoming troons because they end up convinced that women cannot sexualize other women and that's a moid thing.
No. 366731
>>366680The feminine anime girl is tall, flat and lanky though. What is this
victim complex?
>>366680No, that's just how your cartoon furry fetish looks to anyone sane on first appearance and saying "but characters like that are actually drawn by pedos and hetshitters with husbands and kids" doesn't help.
No. 366742
>>366731>The feminine anime girl is tall, flat and lanky though. What is this victim complex?Meant for
>>366693>>366736The thread begs for her to stop replying to herself to play woe is me because some lesbians don't wanna schlick to her nasty pedo manga porn (she compared the height gap to a pedo comic by a woman to defend it, what the fuck) with 6 foot underage boy Hunter Schafer proportions that the het author obviously based off her husband in question in "her first try at GL", anon is proving the point that one anon thought it seemed moidish by saying that. Begging for this JAV addict to step outside and meet real lesbians, being feminine and attracted to femininity is normal I promise, this is not. It's the white Discord kitten wannabes with an Asian fetish thinking Asians are more feminine and delicate and special, like they really wish they were, who treat femininity like it's not normal and go to anonymous imageboards to spam cartoon porn of them to prove how turned on by women they are. Meanwhile claiming it's proof they're bigger lesbos than [insert weird, hostile stereotypes about hairy scary asexual radfem lesbians because you have to be that to not be turned on by anime porn]. Retarded larp especially when the drawings posted usually don't look like grown women
No. 366751
>>366528I guess that could be a factor. Tbh she never brought up whether or not she's out to her friends or family. I have only assumed that she was because she is really affectionate in public. I'll try to bring it up after Christmas. I'll ask about New Years, since it's more of a friend holiday, and see from there.
>>366528That's what I'm afraid of. We share a lot of interests. Writing short stories, DnD, other nerdy hobbies. She tells me about all of the things she does when out with friends. I've always offered an invitation whenever my friends and I go out, incase she might be interested, so it bugs me that she never tried to include me in her circle even just for a small hang out.
And about being "overwhelmed" by her friends- feels like there is some odd implication? I'm generally a social person and can hold a conversation with just about anyone. I feel like she thinks there's a reason I won't like them or they won't like me or we won't click. I don't know? It was weird for her to say.
All and all, I feel that if she's happy to be involved in my life and meet those that I'm closest with she should offer the same. Also, we are both in our late 20s nearly 30, and not our first relationships. It's just stranging how she's moving with this…
No. 366795
>>364658>>364906>>364914>>364922>>364690>>364691>>364678It's a 4chan weeb obsessively schizoposting to make whichever thread it hyperfixates on all about anime porn/gay porn/schoolgirl love/dollified Japanese girls with big tits/women being moidish pedos too. If you disagree you're a fujolard or ugly fat dyke who hates lesbian sex. It could just go to the yuri thread but it wants to personalityfag here for attention from lesbians and get their emails and Discords.
>>366736Mods banned it but it ban evades and starts the same argument with itself again. I don't know why nonnies don't just scroll up instead of falling for the same bait.
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>>367220>>367292fellow lesbian anons, do not respond.
No. 367403
>>367310I'm bad at sensing bait but if this is a lesbian. I think you are envying an idea of something you've never experienced so you're envying something that doesn't actually exist (How you perceive it is to be a men having sex with a woman is something you can't and won't ever know so how would you know that it's more enjoyable than tribbing). Also most women aren't obsessed with their moids. I also think you have some internalized homophobia you should look into. Why do you think you're love as a woman to another woman isn't enough.
As a gen zer I feel like we are the most antisocial generation around.
No. 368015
>>367968If we did we would just get trannycalled or accused of being porn addicts, and the straight women would get
triggered and tell us to go back to this thread despite the constant infighting.
No. 368873
>>367186If you're already in your late 20's or in your 30's this is a very sensible discussion to have imo, especially because you're not yet far into the relationship and if either one is very adamant about your stance on the issue you can still break it up with minimal damage. If you don't want children and she wants multiple then your relationship is just doomed to fail since starting a family is a huge step to take and she will be resentful and bitter if you keep telling her "it's just not a good time" each year.
Especially in a lesbian relationship since it's not as easy as just you two going off the pill but there's a lot of touchy logistics to be addressed with the conceiving (how it will be done, which one of you will carry the child, are there any laws restricting you, will you go with adoption instead etc). My other lesbian friend really wants children of her own and she's getting on with her years so she has to start every promising relationship with the baby talk as she doesn't have a lot of time left before the pregnancy would become too risky to carry on.
I don't think it's a weird topic to bring up tbh, I'd actually prefer if a new girlfriend mentioned it as early as possible so we don't have to build a life together and
then have it all torn down over a big decision like that.
>>366795This, if any people here ever go to /tttt/ and see the lesbian thread there (where she malds about lolcow btw) it's full on constant stream of rape fantasies and lusting after moidgaze porn. It's online grown weebs with /b/tard brainrot seething about other, more well-adjusted lesbians considering their anime porn addiction disturbing. If you want credibility at least talk about actual IRL sex rather than schizospamming hentai coomery. The current breeder sperg is 100% her since that amount of warped thinking belongs to nobody else but someone who's been breathing edgy imageboards since the age of 12, unmistakably reminds me of Isabella Janke.
No. 368986
i went to a dance night a few nights ago with a friend of mine who has said she thinks i'm cute and her type, but she's not into relationships (and we both wouldn't be good in a relationship together, both of us have issues with relationships which, when put together, would make for hell on earth kek). we danced together most of the night (before she abandoned me for a moid…) and nearly kissed a few times (i wish we did, ugh). now she's talking about how she totally could date me, if not for the logistical issues (and even then, she's saying that short term mess could be fun). i got out of a long term relationship not too long ago so i'm not going to pursue anything serious, and plus i really don't think it would work and don't want to lose our friendship, but ughh i just wish she'd kiss me. another friend is trying to set me up with a mutual, so i'm hoping i like her so i can get this out of my head and start pining for someone else, lol
No. 368997
>>368965>Enter a discussion to post graphic rape fantasies about other women you don't like and make your terminal porn addiction known to everyone immediately>Spam obvious moid/hetgaze porn of underage looking anime girls>Sperg about "fujolards" and angrily accuse everyone of being one while bringing incestuous anal rape into the discussion time and time again>Make up a cope about how loli porn isn't that bad because "I read it for the onee-sans">Refuse to take your spergery to the yuri thread where it belongs and instead ban evade for days>Repeat this in every lesbian space you enter>Guys why are all lesbian sites ran by straight polilezzies??? Can't even lust after Japanese schoolgirls in peace!!!I get that she wants her little himejoshi circlejerk but like
>>368968 said she's looking for it in the wrong places. A lot of lesbians aren't chronically online pornfed freaks like her and the equally horny himejoshis themselves don't hang around lesbian communities due to usually not being lesbian. Or female.
No. 369006
>>368928Early 20s but I have the same lifeplans, except replace alcoholism with an eating disorder and add unintentional permavirgin celibacy.
>>369002Unironically this is actually entertaining. One of my rock bottoms.
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>>368873>>368890>>368965>>368997Damn literally rent free. And the one in /tttt/ is not even me although I know her.
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>>369002nta but nothing made me feel more depressed than when i tried an app like that kek
probably in part due to the fact that the girl who wasn't ready to be in a relationship with me showed her chatbot off to me and how good it was making her feel KEKKKK and that wasn't the only time i basically got cucked in similar ways. some days those were… no offense to botloving anons but i wouldn't ever be able to take robots seriously no matter what
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So there's this new Korean-Chinese lesbian film called the Green Night, which i really liked. But of course lesbians can't have fun because it's being now cancelled for being "transmisogynistic" and ppl are bombing letterbox reviews with die terfs etc. The embarassing thing is the "transfem" in the film was never specified to be one, I think he was very clearly a transvestite. The girls just robbed him when he was dressed as a man and passed out in a women's restroom. They go to his hotel room and find women's clothes and ask why would a man want to be a woman when being a woman is so hard. That's it. That's the "violent transmisogyny".
No. 369224
>>369200Thanks for the film rec
nonnie!
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>>369200The way you can’t win with trannies… the woman who left the review had to edit her review to talk about twansmisogynny and gets this. He even rated Poor Things 5s which is up there with Léon as a litmus test of how pedophilic a user is (seriously, look up the plot)
No. 369258
>>369226I totally get you
nonnie. I had straight friends all through high school (or 'bi' ones who would never actually date or marry a woman) and it was hard feeling like the odd one out. As other anons have said maybe you can pivot the conversation away. Or if you have a gf maybe you could talk about her, and it can turn less into a conversation about bfs/husbands and more into a conversation about relationships in general.
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Girls with long hair and masculine clothing style are the best.
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>>369739>>369741>>369742Murciélago by Yoshimura Hana.
The author is a male but some of the sex scenes are still pretty great imo. No. 369811
>>369792The funny thing is that what you've described is similar to what I had to deal with when it comes to one of my ex girlfriends. She claims to be a lesbian these days, but back when I met her she didn't divulge that she was bi until I expressed my interest in women first. She had never dated another woman. At the time, she was online dating a homeless dude in another state who pretended to be a woman and even after she found out he was a guy, she stayed with him because 'she loves who she loves'. I, stupidly, agreed to date her maybe two years after that and she not only never expressed interest in wanting to have sex with me, but like you I also felt like a disgusting pervert for wanting to be intimate with her. When I asked her why she never seemed interested in that, she got vague and flighty and told me that her religious upbringing made her feel that way yet she never seemed to have any problem consuming yaoi and obsessing over certain male musicians who happen to be related making out with one another on stage and was pretty pissed when one of them married and his wife asked him to stop doing that. She blamed the wife for ruining her fun, which is something that I wouldn't have expected from someone claiming to be a die-hard, man-hating lesbian. She and the only other chick she's dated are both on board with the gender and tranny shit, her girlfriend seemingly being the more vocal one constantly whining about everything being something-phobia and always trying to drag everybody into drama.
No. 369815
>>369792I don't want to sound at all like I'm
victim-blaming you— it is not your fault that your exes cheated on you. They chose to do that all by themselves. You did not deserve to be hurt or betrayed for any reason, and you deserve to have a loving partner who commits to you in full. At the same time, along with your exes bisexuality, a common denominator here is
you. You have consistently chosen partners who are immature and cruel enough to lie to, shame, and betray you. This is not me saying you're naive or gullible, or that you should have anticipated their infidelity, but what is it about your decision-making that keeps you trapped in this painful cycle? Did these women have other red flags you ignored (e.g. dishonesty, substance abuse,
victim complex, bullying, etc.)? Were these codependent relationships? Did you settle for partners that you didn't really like or struggled to see a future with?
Worries about your partners capacity for same-sex attraction are
valid and real. At the same time, I'm certain there must be women from Kinsey 2-5 who are capable of committing to a female partner that they truly love. Have I met any? No, because I'm very isolated and severely mentally ill, so I also attract/attach myself to damaged people. At least in the past I did, I'm much better about things now. But empirically speaking, bisexuals who can/do commit to other women must exist. Exclusively dating other lesbians is an obvious protective strategy, but it won't shield you from cheating, abuse, codependency, or failed romances in general. They'll just cheat on you with another woman, instead! I agree that that would be (perhaps) less psychically damaging, but you're still no closer to the healthy relationship you're seeking.
If any of this resonates, I'd advise you to do some self reflective work on your past relationships, your opinion of yourself, and how your family/society have contributed to your ideas about love. There are tons of books and videos and journal prompts online. Not many lesbian specific ones but, despite what others may say, we are women and human beings just like any other. The generic (and implicitly heterosexual) questions/resources will, for the most part, still apply. If anyone is interested, I can share some things I've read that helped me to better understand myself and become better with romantic relationships. Either way, good luck to you. I hope everyone ITT will find themselves satisfied with their love lives in the new year.
No. 369832
>Did you make your Barbie’s kiss?
This is actually a funny story. As a girl, I never knew lesbians were a thing. I just assumed women could only date men because I saw that every day in real life, so I sort of played with my girl bratz exclusively and only gave them boyfriends if someone else requested them. I only had 2 male bratz. One day, one male bratz doll is lost and my friend claimed the other one, but she wanted both our dolls to have boyfriends. So, I cut the hair off a bratz doll without a ton of makeup, and I said she was the temporary boyfriend. I dressed her in boy clothes and we played as usual.
Thing is, I eventually started to enjoy playing “boyfriend” all of a sudden, but only with this short hair girl doll. I thought she was incredibly beautiful, and I made up a game where she had to pretend to be a boy in order to date another bratz doll, some hidden lover type thing.
Eventually, I stopped dressing her as a boy, and I started dressing her in prettier clothes, and I thought she was even more beautiful with short hair and bratz style clothes. I used to have her and her girlfriend bratz doll sleep together, bathe together, go on dates, etc.
I stopped playing with dolls after a certain age, but I recently went attic diving years ago and found that old Butch bratz doll, but she was in ROUGH condition. I don’t know where she is now, but Butch bratz doll was my first realization that “maybe the reason I don’t like playing romantic doll games is just cause I don’t think the boys are pretty like the girls are” Thank you, Butch Bratz Doll, you were my awakening
No. 369835
>>369815Ayrt, and I didn't want my original post to be too blog post-y and long, so I didn't get into it, but I do think a major factor is being too permissive/giving too much benefit of the doubt. Like I said, some of these women were pretty clearly disinterested in being intimate with another woman, but I just thought it was a me problem or, like
>>369811, would believe really vague and weird excuses even if they didn't make sense. Like one of them insisting she had trauma surrounding sex, but still loving explicit BL and hentai. Ultimately, all the women who cheated on me were mentally unstable and generally bad people, so I think their propensity to string along lesbians wasn't a coincidence. Part of taking a break has been to evaluate how this keeps happening and to develop a better "screening" method. I think I'm also too much of a hopeless romantic and want to see the best in my partner, so I ignore red flags and make excuses for them. My first girlfriend cheated on me for 3 years and never even told me, not even when she dumped me. Every time I would even mildly push back on her behavior, like how it made me uncomfortable she'd hang out with male friends overnight and be un-contactable, she'd cry and suicide bait and call me biphobic and controlling, stuff like that. But I was so blinded by how much I loved her that I really believed I was the problem until someone finally confirmed to me she'd been cheating for most of our relationship, but telling everyone I was
abusive to make sure no one would tell me the truth. She ended up doing the exact same thing to another lesbian after me. But in my mind, I've been convinced that if I just find a good partner, my trusting them completely won't matter because there won't be red flags to miss. But that's naive. You're right, I need to be more reasonable and level-headed about these things if I don't want to end up in another doomed relationship.
I also think that for lesbians, navigating sex is especially tricky because we don't want to be like pushy men and we are already hyper-aware of the stereotype of lesbians being predatory. So I had it in my head that if I ever communicated feeling bad about my exes not wanting to have sex, I'd be just as bad as men who pressure their girlfriends. I don't know how to deal with the issue tactfully, and I'd like to sidestep it altogether. It feels gross to set some arbitrary rule (like if she doesn't want to have sex by date 3, it's over), but I'm at a point where the ATTRACTION part of my orientation feels even more shameful than it did before I came out. I do think political lesbianism + bisexuality are a lot more common than is socially acceptable to talk about right now, and I think the types of people who do that are more likely to cheat (and have other issues like being selfish, inconsiderate, etc.) I will try to work on my own problems of being a doormat, but I still worry about the possibility of meeting women who are just pretending to be SSA because it's trendy right now. I do wonder if part of it was age though. I'm a zoomer and recently graduated from college, and so my dating pool has been other college zoomers. Maybe post-graduation, some of the appeal of faking will go away? I really hope so. I have enough issues to work on without also having to deal with women who hate pussy but still try to date lesbians. Sorry this was rambly and all over the place, you have all given me a lot to think about.
No. 369843
>>369835I'm the other nona you quoted
>>369811 here and a lot of what you've said resonates with me. I also would accept the vague, weird excuses from my ex girlfriends about why it couldn't happen and each one were either involved in the yaoi/fujo communities, consumed art or hentai of it, and they were also roleplayers. I wasn't into roleplaying and I didn't stop them from doing that with their friends because I was pretty young and naive at the time and these were my first relationships with other women. None of them cheated on me, but there were many incidents with each of them where something would come up and they'd take the side of a moid they were friends with and I was always the bad guy. I'd get told repeatedly that my version of what happened isn't what actually happened and how they can prove to me and others that it wasn't. Outside of my therapist's office I haven't divulged much to my friends or even my current s.o. and I don't feel like that's fair. I don't think its fair that its been I don't even know how many years at this point and yet I still feel like if I vent about this, offline or online, one of them will "come" for me for nothing more than me wanting to be able to get shit off my chest and connect with others who understand. I feel like the word gaslighting has been used so much that it doesn't have true meaning anymore, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't feel like this is what that felt like. I'm not interested in being with any of them or being friends, but at the same time I don't even wish anything badly on them even when I developed very real trust issues and questioned reality because of the time spent with them. I shouldn't have to feel afraid to confide in others. Especially when I'm not trying to send people upon them or anything like that. I don't tell people where they live, their real name, none of that.
Much like you, I've also been made to feel like I was
abusive. I'd like to hope that my exes don't go around telling people that's what I was, but some people will do anything for a story and a chance to play
victim. I found out through a few of my friends who actually did run into one of my exes that she does in fact do exactly that and if they challenge her she threatens like she did with me about how she can prove to everyone what "really" happened, emphasis on the implication that I am actually the guilty party and she isn't. Honestly, thank you for sharing your experience because even though I've been anxious while typing all of this out about receiving threats, I just want to be able to finally speak to others. I'm so sick and so tired.
No. 369848
>>369832Kek, that's a sweet story nona. I didn't make my Barbies kiss, but then again I didn't really play with barbies and instead preferred "boy toys" because I'm old and in the 80's and 90's toys were heavily gendered. But like you, I didn't know lesbians were a thing because again, I'm ancient (by internet standards). But I was
always playing the role of the father or the boyfriend when other girls wanted to play home and I enjoyed it. I always self inserted into male cartoon characters and got the corresponding toys, bless my mom for being progressive and allowing me to. I liked pretty princess characters, but never in a "I want to be like them" way… it was much more staring at them in awe and what could really be described as nothing else than attraction. It wasn't until much later when I grew up and heard from other lesbians who had the same experiences in their childhood I realized that the reason I resonated with male characters so much was not only the cool masculine aesthetics but especially their romantic proximity to women, particularly seeing how I always liked the ones that had a pretty girlfriend. I guess kids today have a different experience growing up since homosexuality isn't such a hush-hush topic anymore and there are plenty of tomboyish characters but it's pretty interesting to look back on my formative memories and finally connecting the dots.
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>>369843Thanks for responding nona, I relate to you a lot honestly. Mine were also all really into yaoi and roleplaying. I also had the issue of ex-gfs repeatedly choosing moids over me, even after months or years of dating. It was always so hurtful because it felt automatic, like by default I mattered less. If it was me vs. random man #129030923, it was always going to be him. Men's opinions were more important than mine, their feelings, their comfort, their interests, absolutely everything. It really destroys your self-confidence as a woman and as a lesbian to be treated as inherently inferior because you committed the crime of not having a dick. And then they tell you it's your imagination, or even your fault, and that you're a bad person for wanting to be treated with respect. I hope things improve for you, there's nothing wrong with venting about how you were treated. People who perpetually play the
victim have a way of making you feel like you have to keep coddling them even after they're gone or else you've done something wrong, but I hope you can grow to prioritize your happiness. I'm sorry you went through all that. Hopefully 2024 treats us all better.
No. 369969
>>369848>>369958im in my 30s and while i didnt play lesbians with my toys, whenever i played pretend games with my friends i liked to take on the role of "the guy". i wanted to be the boyfriend or husband and i was happy to kiss my friends. this later evolved into me doing online roleplay and i
always chose to play male characters against female characters. i have never once in my life played a female character to write with a male. i wanted to be the male.
>>369968i think i did, but i'm extremely glad i never transitioned. i see my gender dysphoria as me coming to terms with my feelings toward women (i'm not a lesbian but bi and female leaning, i hope i'm allowed to speak my experience here just because the recent posts inspired me to want to share my story.) also my own tomboyishness, though i've been told i appear femme, my interests now sway from high femme to very masculine but i refuse to subscribe to "nonbinary" or "transmasc" or any of that shit. being a woman is great.
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>>370060I just bury my head in the sand and never think about how bad things really are. It's worked perfectly up till now.
No. 370180
>>370178Just stupid and "
problematic" shit about myself I've confided in her or said about someone when I've been angry and emotional. I've seen enough people just post their Discord DMs out of spite after a messy breakup to fear it's a legitimate possibility, when a girl I know broke up with her partner in bad terms she just let like 5 years worth of sensitive gossip about the ex to everyone who gave her the time of the day.
No. 370214
>>370158>>370176One solution is to basically blame your own mental health, say you're not in a good headspace to deal with a relationship and even though you care about her, you just don't have the bandwidth to be with her and need to work on yourself before you can be in a relationship again. She might insist that you can work on your issues together, but just be firm about how you need to learn to stand on your own feet and work out your own problems alone. I've done this before, and although they're obviously not satisfied with the answer because they can sense it's not the full truth, it's close enough that you won't feel too guilty for it (because being in relationships like this are bad for your happiness, it's true), and it is something they can more readily accept as not their fault. But I don't think this is really the "right" answer and I normally only do it because I'm scared of the fallout and consequences of just being honest that I don't want to be with her anymore. Definitely don't drag out the end of the relationship, you have to cut it off and be clear or else she'll keep holding out hope. It's cruel to her because she will keep thinking she has a chance, and unfair to you because you'll have to keep coming up with excuses as to why you can't be together and dragging around the dead weight of relationship baggage that just won't stay in the past. This is why I wouldn't want to do the "mental health" excuse again, one woman definitely thought it was temporary and once I was fine again, we could be together. You have to be clear that it's over for good and that it's not a reflection on her. Although, honestly, you shouldn't be responsible for your girlfriends' happiness and safety. If she's so prone to putting the onus of keeping her alive on you that you're scared to break up (especially if you think she'll try and publicly punish you, like the second anon), I have to question how healthy a friendship would be.
No. 370222
>>370214Seconding this as a possible solution, though everything this nona said about an ex holding out hope with this kind of excuse is true. I was in a nearly identical situation as
>>370158, so I used an explanation along these lines and we stayed friends—and then I did in fact have her asking me a few months later if there was a possibility of us getting back together, so unless you draw that clear boundary she might not let go. If you frame it as being entirely a "you thing", problems that come from you and not her, you're very likely going to be able to avoid a major blowup.
And the thing is it doesn't necessarily have to be untrue, you can absolutely use this time in between relationships to work on whatever problems you have or just try to understand what you want out of a relationship. It's not a complete blatant lie if you really do the soul-searching tbh.
>>370060I'm actually experiencing the inverse right now. I "gave up" a while ago because there seemed to be no hope for me anyway, so why even bother…but then I realized that there are so many other lesbians who have "given up" out there, and one of them might be the woman meant for me, so now I'm forcing myself to be more proactive and not let anything pass me by.
Not in a desperate way or a "flirt with everything that moves" way, but I'm making an effort to connect with people because one of them might be that woman, or know that woman. I'm not super extroverted, and haven't dated a whole lot, but this year I want to really push myself to take chances, because if I don't do it it certainly isn't going to fall into my lap. I'm not going to tell you how to feel, nona, but we're both so so young, and I hope you find hope again someday.
No. 370913
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im kind of trapped nonas. im at college and im dating a girl i met while over there, she's my only real friend and connection in that area. however im deeply unattracted to her sexually. she kind of catfished me (we met on a dating app) with angled photos and stuff and i didn't realize how autistic and neetlike she was until we were basically already dating and i already had feelings for her - it was basically like a screen had fallen and i saw the real her.
i feel awful posting about her like this but i cant stop thinking about how excited i am to move on and date "real girls." aka ones who aren't hikkikomori lite. i thought she had cool hobbies and aspirations but that also felt like a trick and she's making me really depressed, but i feel so trapped. im thinking, can i blame her for being depressed if her life is so shitty, ykwim? shes my best friend and the best thing thats happened to me in college so far (dealing with actual violent homophobia on campus, plus a computer engineering major) but she's awful for me.
im transferring to another school a state away next year. i already had plans for this before we met but idk what to do until summer. we've barely had any sex and i love her but im repulsed by her at the same time. it's literally the perfect femcel dynamic and it's so fucking awful. im worried im only attracted to her because, again, she's my only remotely positive connection and my major and my sexuality has isolated me so much.
it's gotten so bad it's made me second guess if i'm even sexually attracted to women. i have one of the most stereotypical butchy phenotypes on the entire planet and even thinking about penises makes me want to die. help.
No. 370920
>>370916shes cute face wise, tall and knows how to dress, plus she's funny. she knows how to take care of herself and she keeps up with hair care and skincare so thats why i didn't think that much was up until i saw her room for the first time. and also until i learned she has a tumblr. she eats like shit, she only takes care of herself above the collar.
im relatively short, i go to a barber and i pride myself on my hair care, i dress somewhat formally with button ups, nice shoes, nice slacks, because i have a customer service job. i need to talk to people face to face/in meetings and on the phone so im not hopeless socially. im nerdy (have been told i look like a professor or an academic) but i work out a few times a week.
idk maybe im just an autistic loser too but im really ambitious and i have long term goals for myself, im a workaholic, i have way too many hobbies and i read too much. she just doesn't do anything with her life. we initially got together because of our shared interests in writing and film.
No. 370934
>>370920Poor girl, you keep her close by even though you don't like her. Honestly you sound
toxic af, and by your description, you sound ugly on top of that. Leave that woman alone you weirdo.
No. 371004
>>370586We started out as friends and met by chance. Cliche/what they all say, I know. I used to blow off the advice to "don't use dating apps, just go make friends" because there's no lesbian community near me (I was hoping 30+ LGB people would be more reasonable but they drank the TQ+ kool-aid too) and I'm pretty socially awkward, but I guess they were onto something. But it's not hopeless if you're in my boat, before we got together I was actually already accepting that someone like me would end up alone and I was proven wrong by surprise.
>>370913>>370920IDK why most of the responses to you are so aggro - But you're honestly better off breaking up for both of your sakes, you sound incompatible lifestyle and goals-wise/better off as friends. Acting like having a Tumblr is a negative is kinda funny from someone posting on LC, though. I don't think anyone on here has room to talk on this.
No. 371039
>>371026If you find out let me know because I have the same problem, just a year older.
Although in my case it might be because I'm alt
No. 371048
>>371026I have this problem too.
Am irked by the idea of dating someone using slang I don’t understand.
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>>371068I want to know how to get better at showing my best, truest self on dating apps. I love you nonnas but don’t think it’s healthy of me to develop emotional connections online knowing that I will be unlikely to meet anyone from here irl.
No. 371137
>>371068This is genuinely the worst possible idea. Aside from newfags, trolls, moids, the mentally ill and moidtroons causing problems like
>>371110 said, let an anonymous IB be an anonymous IB. You can date literally anywhere else. Honor the anonymity of this place, it's rare nowadays.
No. 371139
>>371026Have any anons ever experienced being the older one in an age gap relationship?
I don’t like the idea of younger women as they make me feel old but it’s seems it’s an option to keep open if I want a childfree gf.
No. 371177
>>371128>one of them ended up being abused by an anonThis is the peak lesbian experience though.
>and another met one who only wanted to show her pics of anime guys after sex and just leftAnd this is why you don't fuck/date yumes and fujos.
No. 371189
It's crazy to me that so many posts are seething over
>>370913 and projecting their insecurities onto her. all she did was vent about her feelings toward this girl and clearly feels bad and doesn't want to hurt her but you guys are talking like she told this girl to kill herself for not having ambitions or something
>>370934>toxic afintegrate
No. 371199
>>370920So she's good looking but you're sexually repulsed by her because her room is a mess (I'm guessing) and she has a tumblr plus another bunch of stuff you dislike of her personality/habits? I'm assuming she has no hygiene issues because you don't mention this, so in theory you would have no problem having sex with her given you were actually sexually attracted to her. It sounds like you don't actually feel romantic attraction to her, since romantic attraction and sexual attraction go hand in hand. You just bonded with someone who shared some of your hobbies, as a friend. Also by the way you describe all this it seems like this is your very first sexual/romantic relationship IRL, so I'm thinking that you either got too excited about meeting someone IRL who shared some hobbies and confused friendship for romance, or you're not as sexually attracted to women as you think you are since you seem terminally online interacting with real women for the first time. I think you should be honest with her about your lack of sexual attraction and see if she's willing to stay friends with you, but also respect if she doesn't want to stay friends. Try to be more introspective so you don't confuse these feelings again, and go out with a couple more women to see if you're truly sexually attracted to them (if you keep feeling sexually turned off by random stuff then you're probably not).
And I would just like to remind other terminally online women here that romanticizing online interactions with other women or feeling attraction to Kpop idols/anime/celebs or hating men so much you find them repulsive nothing of this necessarily translates to being sexually attracted to real life women. Go touch some grass before assuming you're a lesbian and then having a mental breakdown or hurting some poor girl because it turns out you aren't.
No. 371443
>>371397Research a professional service she could use that would tell her exactly what to do so she doesn’t go off the rails. Buy it for her if you have money. She needs a two-year plan if she wants to lose it and change her habits for the long run. Do you want to stay with her for two + years while she works on it? You don’t have to.
you don’t like her as much now that her looks changed right? to me that means you never liked her that much, you two would be better off separate.As for her old restrictive eating disorder this is just the other side of the same coin. She still doesn’t know how to listen to her body to know when she’s actually full or actually hungry. She should take up meditation and talk to a nutritionist.
No. 371450
>>371397If she had an ED it's better to actually go to a professional who can set up a weightloss plan and inform them about the ED. Maybe you can go together, try and do the diet also together. Try remove all unhealthy snacks from the home, start cooking together and excercising with her.
>>371445>which is why she looked the way she did when you first metAre you trying to say that anon dated her when she is a skelly? She says that she had as shapely body when she started dating her. However
>>371449>>371443Anon said she doesn't find her as attractive anymore as her post weight gain. That doesn't mean she doesnt love her at all anymore or that she thinks she butt ugly kek.
No. 371456
>>371454She can easily see the post on ops post history and connect it to being about her, retard. Op doesn't deserve to be in a relationship with someone she only likes because of her body. You can't see someone as an object and get mad when people judge you for it.
And to think that she's asking for ways to get an anorexic to relapse without it being too obvious so "she" feels attracted to her again makes me think the person behind the post isn't even a woman to start with.
No. 371464
>>371462She got told to break up which is what she should do. Feeding to someone you're supposed to love's mortal mental illness(anorexia has the highest mortality of all mental disorders) because you like them better when sick isn't exactly something women do.
I'm skinny and I also would date someone who only likes me because I'm skinny, some of you are creepy.
No. 371465
>>371461>Imagine asking someone to relapse and get sick again because you're not sexually attracted to them in their healthy weightOP never said she would do this, or even wanted to. And by the sounds of it OP actually met her at her healthy weight then became overweight.
>>371462Apparently we're men for having that preference. Still I bet all the women here projecting their insecurities into OPs gf are American/UK fat fucks. The rest of the world is relatively normal weight and you don't end up having this sort of arguments as much with them.
No. 371467
>>371459>Anorexics can be curvy, retardI would like to know what you define as anorexic and curvy. Because you need to have a super low body weight. Yeah no shit people have different body type, but if you have almost no fat you will just look like a skelly eitherway. 40-45kg can be healthy depending on what your height is also.
>She finally recovered You think gaining 18kgs in such a short time and not being able to control her eating is healthy? You just want her to swap one ED with another one kek.
>>371465>Still I bet all the women here projecting their insecurities into OPs gf are American/UK fat fuckI think so to, lately I have seen a lot of "fat acceptance" post on ot also. Like im not saying we need to bully or hate fat people, but they will get so angry if you even talk about losing weight kek. They are especially being weird now because OP literally said how its bothering her girlfriend.
No. 371468
>>371466Oh no, I also suggested breaking up. OP is trying to look for a way of not
triggering her anorexia ED but I don't think that's a possibility. People with EDs are extremely sensitive about people commenting on their body even more so from a romantic partner. Even if OP sucks it up her gf will eventually realize she's no longer sexually attracted to her and drama will ensue. If OP cannot be attracted to overweight women at all then I think the best thing to do is break up.
No. 371469
>>371467I’m
>>371449 and I’m the anon on /ot/ who said I’m repulsed by fat people kek. Why is it fat acceptance bullshit to not see that this is not exactly the thoughts of someone deeply in love with someone. And that’s fine. Literally just break up.
No. 371472
>>371465I'm the one who's been arguing with you and I'm underweight and suffered from anorexia since I was 11. Nice try angering us with random fat insults directed at our body though, you totally proved you're mature enough to give excellent dating advice.
>>371469Yeah she should break up and tell her it's for another reason. Anons here are weird as fuck and the way they fetishize thinness makes them come off similarly to those fat men who only want super thin girls.
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>>37146740 kg isn't healthy even if you're 165cm, in fact it's severely underweight. If she was 40kg and now weight 58, she'd literally be more healthy compared to her old weight. Why are you trying to defend your fetish for obviously emaciated women?
(derailing) No. 371495
>>371475How the hell would you know if shes 165cm or what even her weight is. No shit 40kg is to light for a 165cm tall women. I literally said that 40-45kg could be healthy depending your height if your a fucking midget like me. You are assuming that she was underweight when she was dating OP, but you dont even know if thats the case.
>>371484I think you are confusing that anon with me kek.
No. 371500
>>371496>you either must be 160cm or 145cm nothing in between>if you dont agree with me you are actually a fattie!!!I don't know why you would think I would care to be called a fattie. Nor am I autistic enough to post my weight and height. I think you are projecting your own insecurities.
>>371498>fatphobia Is this something anons unironically say here now.
No. 371515
>>371512Anon you're literally fat yourself, wtf. Midget bitch is probably even fatter though so you can cope with that.
>>371513As said before, the fatphobes are always fat themselves.
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>>371513>>371515You can try to LARP to be ana-chan all you want, but this is what actual normal weight looks like. And you talk about being obsessed about weight yet you immediately jumped to call everyone fatphobic in the thread (nothing wrong with being fatphobic I don't wanna die smothered by a BBW). Btw just stop eating when you're not hungry, it's not that hard, Amerilards.
(attentionwhoring) No. 371540
>>371536>>371539They're 100% fat fucks pretending to be anorexic, otherwise they wouldn't be seething about fatphobia.
>>371538Not even gonna try to fight this, I know I dress terrible kek.
No. 371542
>>371536healthy weight sure, but looks skinny fat and untoned. adds up I suppose, the skinny fat anachans are always the most unhinged. I guess cause it must suck to reach your ideal weight and still look pudgy once your clothes are off.
still, when you're built like a teenage boy with no hips and dress like you raided your 12yo brother's wardrobe, you gotta take whatever win you can. although I don't see what any of this has to do with lesbianism.
No. 371545
>>371538I'd prefer a cute old lady style to a weeby one.
>>371542She's not thin, she's just a manminded retard that expects women to be 40kgs as "she" said above.
No. 371550
>>371543Kek that's sweet nonna, though I do need someone to show me how to dress good.
>>371544No, I'm addicted to female attention because I don't get any irl. Also I need to prove fat amerilards wrong on the Internet.
>>371545Again, I'm not the other anon you were arguing with. And 40kg on a 160cm~ woman is death-tier lmao. Anorexics look as bad as fatties.
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>>371553How BPD are you? There gotta be a catch.
No. 371556
>>371552retard isnt going to shut the fuck up because it’s the one moment she gets any attention in her life. just report.
>Nonas, whats the cutest date you’ve ever been on?I went on a beach date as my first date, we had ice cream and watched the waves together. We walked for like 4 hours just talking about everything. The sunset was beautiful, it was like a dream. We ended up dating for 6 months but we were too busy to see one another, but that memory will stick with me forever.
No. 371576
>shitting up the thread by responding to baitliterally why
>>369200i ended up watching this a few days ago and really enjoyed it. also it was pretty obvious that the guy was a crossdresser, i dont get the hate for it
No. 371577
>>371569>gets mindbroken when women don't act how she expects>mentally blames it on lesbiansPeak bislut thinking not gonna lie.
>>371571Yes it's an anime shirt.
No. 371578
>>371574oh i see the homophobic society just forces you all to act unhinged about her clothes etc
>>371577ok mental health patient
No. 371584
>>371523be my gf
nonny, I will beat you and slap your face until you become less autistic retard
No. 371626
Shit, came back hours later to see the thread gone to hell with infighting after my post. For the record she went from being normal weight to obese in just a year's time, NOT from ana-chan to normal weight. It's due to binge eating unhealthy high sugar food that's already causing her health problems and self esteem issues. I was looking for advice on how to help her to return back to healthy living habits WITHOUT prolapsing straight to the other extreme which would be just as bad, that's why I mentioned the ED background. Should've been more clear about that but I'm still getting used to the fact that this thread is being camped by that clinically insane internet fight addicted schizo these days. Sorry.
>>371450We don't live together but I've tried getting her to partake in exercising with me, but she rarely has the energy to and gets tired immediately. It's depressing because we used to enjoy doing stuff like hiking together in the past and I'm a very outdoorsy person myself. I've been trying to get her to see a professional about it but she's too embarrassed to seek help, which is also why I was asking on how to encourage her about it if someone here had been in a similar situation.
No. 371647
>>371626I hope this doesn't cross into armchair-psychology territory (only speaking from personal experience) but it's likely the binge eating is just another manifestation of her old disordered eating. The root problem is in her mind which makes it very hard for you as an outsider to actually do anything about it. Typically it's like unhappiness makes her binge makes her unhappy makes her binge makes her unhappy, it's a never-ending loop. She has to make some sort of decision to break the loop herself. You don't even live together you can't control her food. She should get professional help but, again, you can't make her. She only has one life and there's no point is spending it ashamed of herself and unhappy just because she got fat a couple years ago but she has to realize that herself – when her self confidence comes back her weight will fall off because she will stop emotionally binging.
You could do something physical but low-impact with her on a very consistent basis and that could give her a needed mental boost. Like beginner yoga or walks, or maybe even shorter duration harder activities. Take a self defense class together, that's always fun. Or a non-physical activity like an art class, doesn't have to be fitness oriented as long as it can get her out of her head. Meditation is good for bingers.
No. 371761
>>371723They forget the rampant sexually transmitted disease epidemics in retirement homes, ladies are getting it in even in their 80s. My tinfoil seems so much more
valid now that these troll posts keep popping up in here, the trannies and moids really want actual lesbians to not fuck each other.
No. 371861
>>371850nta but definitely tallness. I frequently hear people gushing over tall women or just having a tallER gf but never any preference for shorter. There's also the desire to be taller, my friend is 5'4" and she complains about feeling short.
I'm 5'0" and people exclusively say rude things about it
No. 371873
>>371850Definitely tallness;
especially if you're GNC. I'm quite a bit over 6'0 and when I look back at some of the women I've been with I have to conclude that the height clinched it. Like I'm not ugly, but I used to have a shit haircut, didn't take care of my skin so good, dressed kinda blah. I do not believe I'd have the same amount of notches on my bedpost if I was average height. Idk where the standard came from, but it's getting worse with the creepy "step on me mommy" shit on social media. My only theory is that maybe it comes from the idealisation of polarity between butch and femme.
No. 371894
>>371850I feel it's quite similar to the general female beauty standards i.e. skinny and conventionally attractive, maybe tall for butches like other anons said. I'm a butch average in both height and looks and haven't had that much trouble with the ladies but I feel like if I was a womanlet I would be screwed and on the other hand if I was taller I would have to fend off women with a stick. But I like shorter women myself so I don't really know.
>>371889My girlfriend is also a lot shorter than I am and I've always found it cute. I'm not that much about height but I have to admit that it's part of why I'm so attracted to her.
No. 371913
>>371899Same, feels like it would be awkward to have a partner that is way taller than you. Would prefer a gf of the same height as me
easier to kiss her that way too.
No. 372262
>>371861I have a preference for shorter women and feminine. I never felt attracted to masculinity much in appearance yet I myself am kinda muscular because I want to exercise for health and admire people who are muscular without steroids for their dedication. Only issue is that many feminine women I find are straight. Sad emoji. But that's just the aesthetic preference I have. When you see one that fits your preference it makes you feel good for a bit and that's it. If I'm in love with someone it would happen because of our personalities and bond mostly, not her appearance. If I love her, she will be beautiful in my eyes no matter what she looks like. And I have noticed that with love, it shows up in the most unexpected ways… She will speak to me about her day and I will pay attention to her intonation, to the expressions and gestures she makes, the sound of her laugh, and I will feel happy. She will be sleeping at night and I will wake up briefly, looking at her face, and I will be happy. She will be walking and as she does so, I will notice each step she takes, how it's unique to her alone and the sound it makes, and I will feel happy. And there are many ways she will make me feel good, that I cannot put into words because it's impossible to know without first experiencing it. It's the most random things yet those are the most memorable. With a preference you have an expectation, a set image and you know what will come, but with love you feel it new as it comes. It's an adventure altogether. So I would say I have a preference constructs an image which is clear in your mind and unchanging, a "still life" as I call it. While in love it is like reading a book that writes itself, a dictionary perhaps, and each word has a new definition whenever you look. When I try to think what the woman I love looks like, I can't, because how do you describe infinity? You just have to experience it as it comes.
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I just joined a lesbian group in my city.
Im super nervous but im sure everything will go ok. Im tired of being surrounded by males all the time and I really need new friends. The only socialization I get is at my school's technology club and the only 2 other women there are straight, married, and way older then me. Yesterday some moid started talking to me and complaining about the feminist agenda to make all women girlbosses and how its turning us all into lonely cat ladies. Im so done with it.
I really hope i can find friends there at least or even a gf if im lucky.
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>>372517I can Hope for a normie.
No. 372707
>>372704>high libidoI have the same problem too but I m
*e everyday as I am single.
If an active sex life is important to you then find gf who is on the same page. I think it would be bad for your self confidence if you felt like you were bothering your partner for sex.
(don't self-censor, this isn't twitter or tiktok) No. 372730
>>372707>I m*e everyday you wot?
???
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>>372730Maybe she's a drug addict?
No. 372735
>>372704I have the same problem and it's so horrible. It makes you feel so evil to ask a woman for sex and you can just see the pity/reluctance/guilt in her eyes because she doesn't
want to. It feels moidy and disgusting and makes you feel like a sex crazed predator. This is why I get such autistic rage over the uwu sapphic hand holding blushing picnics and useless lesbians U-hauls are 3rd base blah blah stereotypes like I wanna eat pussy is that so wrong kek. Do not feel gross though, you're not alone. I've met older lesbians who do have sex multiple times a week and have assured me there's nothing wrong or predatory about wanting a partner who is sexually compatible. Lesbians are just highly sensitive to the issue because we are women and we don't want to make other women uncomfortable and we subconciously fear living up to the stereotype of the evil predatory lesbian. And I understand you so much about wanting sex more the longer and more committed your relationship is. I think it's a romantic thing honestly.
No. 372747
>>372704>Older/married nonnas if you still lurk here do you have regular sex with your partner? That's a question I'd like answers too.
I have the opposite problem, after a few I lose interest in my girlfriend sexually. I don't know what to do about it.
No. 372755
>>372704I feel this, I've always been terrified of entering a relationship because I'm afraid of it going all dead bedroom. It happened to a lot of my lesbian friends, one admitted to me that she hasn't had sex with her fiancee in years. The thought genuinely terrifies me, I would be absolutely miserable in a relationship with no sex. Like I can even go as low as once every two weeks but months? Years? Not a chance. Like you said, if it was a medical issue I would be understanding of course, but for normal everyday life it just wouldn't work out for me.
>I don't think I can be happy in a relationship where sex isn't a priority and I'm scared that makes me a gross predatory dyke. I often feel like in lesbian relationships particularly there's pressure to look past a nonexistent sex life since you're supposed to just "love" your significant other no matter what and sex is just a side thing. Like related to the discussion upthread, the physical and sexual attraction you have towards your partner is extremely important for a successful relationship. Sex is a normal thing to desire and nobody should be made to feel like a monster for valuing it as a part of a committed, long-term relationship.
>Seriously considering becoming a polyfag or something and just having fuckbuddies because I don't want to fall in love, commit, and then have a repeat of my ex.Same. I often have the intrusive thoughts of being jealous of the sex life gay men have kek, I wish I could just have sex first to see if our libidos and preferences match and then look into a more serious relationship but I feel like I have to buy an engagement ring before even getting to the first base.
No. 372762
>>372755>I wish I could just have sex first to see if our libidos and preferences match and then look into a more serious relationship but I feel like I have to buy an engagement ring before even getting to the first base.It's rough because having sex first is no guarantee of anything. Everyone is horny and happy when the relationship is new. AYRT but I guess I'm extra jaded because my ex straight up lied about having a higher libido and wanting a sexual relationship, and everything was fine during the honeymoon period so I never questioned it.
At this point I feel like there's no way to know someone's actual attitude toward sex until after you're cohabitating and the real personality comes out. Which I guess is true about everything but it sucks extra hard with sex because it's so hard leave someone over sex without being an asshole.
No. 372837
>>372704I have a high libido and the last time I was in therapy I was diagnosed with a hypersexual disorder from past abuse. I used to take medication, but having no libido from antidepressants made me miserable. I gave up on dating for a long time because I felt like I was too "impure" for most lesbians and had a phase where I chased after bihet women because I thought I deserved to be abused by them (I was taken advantage of by a bicurious girl when I was young which contributed to that). Sex matters to me, but I didn't want to have random hookups with strangers, I want to like her as a person too and be on the same wavelength about it. It feels harder since I'm not a libfem, I don't like porn or hardcore BDSM stuff and it seems like the only options in my area is a sexless U-haul relationship or weird kinky dangerhair polycule shit.
>>372755>I often have the intrusive thoughts of being jealous of the sex life gay men have kekI feel so bad for admitting this but I think this too. I once watched some Youtube video where a gay man was complaining that his community was too sexual, and I felt bad that I was almost jealous. Moids of any sexuality are unabashed horndogs because they're "supposed" to be like that, but it seems like so many lesbians are too scared to be sexual. I can get why, because even among other lesbians there's policing when it comes to how we have sex or what we're into, saying we could be objectifying women we're not dating, etc. Even though I've known plenty of straight and bi women who do the same thing or are openly into weird stuff and don't get shit for it, it makes me bitter.
No. 372866
>>372837>Sex matters to me, but I didn't want to have random hookups with strangers, I want to like her as a person too and be on the same wavelength about it. Same, hooking up with strangers feels dangerous and there's always a possibility of catching feelings when the other person sees you as a meal ticket for sex, but on the other extreme a sexless relationship isn't a possibility because for me sex and touching is part of my love language.
>I can get why, because even among other lesbians there's policing when it comes to how we have sex or what we're into, saying we could be objectifying women we're not dating, etc. Even though I've known plenty of straight and bi women who do the same thing or are openly into weird stuff and don't get shit for it, it makes me bitter.For real though, if a straight woman says she doesn't like oral everyone understands but if a lesbian doesn't like it she's a fake bislut. And the constant "is penetration straight" question when it's literally built into our biology to find it enjoyable. There's so much policing around lesbian sex and it often feels like a next level taboo, sorry for tangential blog but when I was a teenager and trying to figure things out I had no idea how to have sex as a lesbian because female sexuality is already a repressed topic and lesbianism even more so. It wasn't until I was in my 20's that I started hearing about sex experiences from other SSA women and up until that shitty moidgaze lesbian porn was the only thing I had knowledge of.
No. 372880
>>372868As obvious as it may sound, just be yourself. All these dating advices are shit and in the end, woman should love just as you are.
btw, why are you only attracted to bi?
No. 372881
>>372880NTA but as someone in a similar situation bi women are often the only ones showing any attraction or attention to butch women due to their masculinity, in full lesbian communities I feel like the focus is strongly on femininity and butches are considered men lite in a derogatory way (
cough Lchat). It sucks and makes you cynical towards relationships when your dating pool consists of only bi women who will most likely leave you for a man when they're nearing their 30's and feel the pressure to start a family and directly contributes to the butches trooning out epidemic tbh.
No. 372887
>>372881Ok I understand now, it makes me really sad what butches must go through.
Personally I love butches and I wish I could have gf like that…
No. 372890
>>372886Lchat is a lesbian gossip site, not a community specifically for lipstick lesbians. It's just inhabited by the most insufferable kind of drama addicted lipstick lesbians for their unhinged RPF shipping fantasies and to develop their parasocial relationship for unattainable celebrity women they headcanon as lesbian. As for the butch part they
really don't like them because to them they're all ugly fat old cringe troon bulldykes compared to the impossibly beautiful k-pop idols cycled through 15 rounds of plastic surgery and starvation diets.
No. 372895
>>372889I don't shame anyone, it's just unhealthy to have such high libido. She's sex obsessed, she needs mental help probably.
If she would be a man with that high libido you would ask yourself what's wrong with him, but when it's a woman, that is ok?
(bait) No. 372896
>>372880Yeah, I generally feel good in my own skin and am comfortable being myself. My experiences when 'being myself' have often been women super interested at the very start but quickly and suddenly losing romantic interest and pulling away (typically wanting to just be friends) once things progress, even though I don't feel like I start doing anything different. IDK, I'm optimistic it will work out eventually since I feel like I have a lot to offer the right person. Doesn't stop me from googling dating advice, though, haha!
And I'm not
only attracted to bi women, I think them being the majority of my romantic prospects come down to a few reasons:
1. There are WAY more bi women! I feel at least half of the women I associate in my daily life with identify as bi. I think I've met only one femme-presenting lesbian where I live (very liberal area, college town). I'm sure there are more around, but I either haven't met them or they haven't made themselves obvious to me.
2.
>>372881 makes a good point – bi women express interest in me, which in turn makes me more attracted to them. It's validating to be found attractive for my butchier side since it's not something most people are into.
If a cute femme lesbian came along and there was mutual interest, I would probably ultimately feel safer and better understood in a dynamic like that. However, I'm willing to keep an open mind and heart to bi women and thus that is mostly who I've dated.
No. 372921
>>372704Find another woman with high libido, there's gotta be
Otherwise do what gay moids do where they have an open relationship