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No. 1954742
Thread to talk about people who are radical feminists, but are batshit insane OR claim to be radical feminists, but are just using it to gain money and/or notoriety.
Warning: This is not a thread for ranting about TIMs, TIFs or COVID. Please go to the respective containment threads for that.
Anna Slatz
>Grifter with a plastic surgery addiction.>Fired from her job as Editor-in-Chief for writing two puff pieces for the leader of a Neo-nazi party in Canada.>Currently making a transition as a financial guru and stocks investor.https://twitter.com/Slatzismhttps://www.reddit.com/user/AnnaSlatz/>>>/snow/1244909Vanessa Vokey
>Anti-mask psycho who compared face masks to hijabs.>Assaulted a female voting booth worker for asking her to wear a mask.>YouTube recently deleted her channel.https://www.instagram.com/vanessavokeyradfemMeghan Murphy
>Founded the website Feminist Current and was a radfem.>Moved to Mexico to escape the anti-feminist dystopia of Canada.>Ditched her beliefs and doesn't feel comfortable calling herself a radfem anymore.>No longer identifies with the feminist label https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq-04S1vzWPy3G8omi0wVvAhttps://www.instagram.com/meghanemilymurphyLeah Tverly
>Unhinged druggie who makes crazy rants online while playing a synth.>Thinks that hygiene is a tool of the patriarchy.>Made a video of herself freebleeding in response to Contrapoints.>Peed on the toilet seat and the floor of a public restroom because of a troon.https://twitter.com/chained2phonehttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCNdr61tRUO2UVciM5gbxfQ/videosElle Androphobia
>Anti-vaxxer, who believes that COVID is a fake pandemic.>Believes that vaccines makes you troon out.https://www.youtube.com/ellaandrophobiahttps://twitter.com/radfemmommaYTAmy Dyess
>Former radfem who claims that was brainwashed by Julie Bindel to join the TERF cult.>Currently in transition to become a man and working on an anti-TERF film.>Believes herself to be the alpha in the fight against TERFs.https://twitter.com/TheBeauDyessPrevious Thread
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So I've seen right side of history get retweeted often and assumed she was just a regular radfem account, but nope it's actually run by some zoomer who retweets Tucker Carlson and makes borderline fascist like picrel.(this isn't milk, sage it)
No. 1954820
>>1954747I agree that our modern architecture is shit, but that's been going on for far longer than the inflated immigration has. I don't think America has ever had nice buildings with accents and thought put into them. It's because it costs more money to have accents & gargoyles & all the things that make old buildings nice. It's because of capitalism, not immigrants. And that's coming from someone who thinks we should cut immigration by over 50%.
>>1954742RE: main pic. I'm not familiar with the cows in this thread but she is speaking truth to me. Broken clocks etc.
No. 1954872
>>1954742This is the second new thread I've seen with the old threads linked in the wrong order. It's oldest to newest.
Reordered:
>>>/snow/1351285>>>/snow/1829410Thanks for making it though and not prematurely.
No. 1954883
>>1954747This retard was never been a radfem, like all “gender critical” fuckheads she’s a far right turbo pick me. Typical ignorant American imperialist who thinks she’s smart when she’s genuinely retarded
>>1954820Fuck outta here with your misogyny, handmaiden
No. 1955001
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>>1954914look up the Barnum effect.
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WTF is she trying to say?
No. 1955303
>>1955295>>1955302Moids think women don’t want to be married and be sahms
She believes there are more women that want to be SAHMs and its moids that don’t want to be married
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This was written by a Marxist Lesbian Radical Feminist, we are so fucking cooked.
No. 1957688
>>1957610Meh, she talks about this on her podcast a lot - how right wing men claim to be anti feminist and pro gender tradition, but are actually very modern. She points out how much their wives tend to wear the pants. It’s not her complimenting him but calling out his hypocrisy.
It annoys me how they take this point to such a retarded level on Redfem though.
>>1957680Trannies thinking their ideology (which puts individual identities above collective material reality and relies on capitalist consumer culture) is compatible with Marxism is what’s funny
No. 1957862
>>1957610>it's abundantly clear he does much of the heavy lifting when it comes to childcareHow? He and the other DailyWire moids enthusiastically admit they don't know how to do basic household chores or childcare and leave everything to their wives. Granted their wives probably hire nannies, maids, and cooks, but these moids do absolutely fuck all in the home and never will.
How can twt "radfems" complain about being seen as deeply reactionary conservatives when all they do is slobber all over misogynist RWers knobs?
No. 1957869
>>1957862I already replied to the first pots but I don't see her "slobbering all over misogynist RWers knobs". she is trying to insult him and call him out for the "values" he preaches when he doesn't even live by those values himself. on the pod they often talk about how many prominent right wing women often have the upper hand in relationships and are quite
masculine in some ways (not aesthetically but traditional roles, and in their career etc.). and yet their husbands try to sell their followers the trad life dream, when in reality they're living in very modern relationships with a much more equal dynamic than they let on. when she says "feminist lifestyle" she knows it's the last thing he would ever want to be considered.
of course, she frames it in a way that tries to be edgy. her and jen often think they're making a point but then it just gets lost because of how reactionary it is. especially the comparison to men on the far left. it's boring.
No. 1957870
>>1957688>>1957869>She points out how much their wives tend to wear the pants.>on the pod they often talk about how many prominent right wing women often have the upper hand in relationships How? Their wives are Mrs. Husbandfirstname Husbandlastname. They work, but their moid is still the "head of the household". They're the ones burdened with childcare and housework, the moids aren't. Many of the most vicious MRAs are financially dependent on women be it their wife, girlfriend, sister or mother. Religious trad men, typically to unintelligent and incompetent to support their massive families, rely on women selling shitty courses or e-whoring online to make end's meet. That doesn't make them akshuly living a feminist lifestyle–women just have to finance their own oppression. In what way do these women "have the upper hand"? They're not dependent bangmaids, but they still have to play second fiddle to their moid. They just do so while also paying the bills.
Is this the misogyny version of "Dems are the real racists"? Conservatives are proudly and openly misogynistic. You're not gonna meme them into respecting women. They could depend on women their whole lives, then turn around and take away abortion, birth control, and no-fault divorce so women are stuck as bangmaids-for-life.
No. 1957872
>>1957870ayrt and i don't disagree with you entirely. just putting her tweets into context of what she talks a lot about on Redfem. I don't see it as sucking up to the right, personally. More just attention seeking and being reactionary. She's taken a kernel of truth (that people like ben shapiro's marriages aren't that trad, but more just average modern middle class marriages where the husband and wife share roles and both have careers etc.) and turned it into a meme, like you say.
I actually can't listen to the pod anymore because of these dumb takes and Jen's endless bitching about people she knows in her personal life that has nothing to do with anything.
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So RFH has allegedly has two ex-husbands with serious maternal issues
No. 1958459
>>1958392That’s exactly what I think too. She’s not a radfem, just a chronic baiter.
>>1957872Hannah likes being provocative, plus she’s autistic (as in genuinely autistic). She’s nowhere near as insufferable as misogynistic lesbro Jen. I was listening to a twitter “space” that they were in some months back, it was a discussion about how TERFs should distance themselves from far right “gender critical” morons like Kellie Jay Keen. Jen made a complete fool of herself, she couldn’t answer any of the questions she was being asked by other radfems, she just kept parroting the same irrelevant points from a Marxism 101 textbook. I’ll see if there’s a recording of it available, I’m sure some of you nonas would find it entertaining
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>>1954742Literally one google search could have answered her questions. I also think a good chunk of women online venting about long term conditions are probably telling the truth. Often times when you have those conditions, it will cause you to be terminally online because you are already stuck sick in bed. Also, a lot of those sorts of people tend to have their conditions from their shitty lifestyles and shooting up cross-sex hormones, but i guess Megan would rather post this Andrew Tate ass take instead of using her fucking head. She might as well shift over to be a full blown tradthot with opinions like that.
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How the fuck do go from quoting Andrea Dworkin to this.
No. 1960361
>>1958728I read once in a Gabor Mate book that women are more likely to get autoimmune diseases because they're more likely to internalise emotions, whereas men externalise. Autoimmune is literally the body attacking itself, so it kind of makes sense on some level. Especially since women are also more prone to self harm, eating disorders etc. which is just a more literal expression.
I personally think it's a mixture of a lot of factors. Some men will mock women who have real diseases (that have been confirmed in labs and diagnosed by doctors) but will find men like Jordan Peterson profound when he claims that a teaspoon of apple cider vinegar sent him into a 3 month depression.
TBF I didn't read the replies to that original tweet from Meghan but was she explicitly making a suggestion or criticism about women or was it simply an observation?
No. 1960404
>>1960361He was likely correct, as cohabitation with a moid will force you to internalize resentment, guilt, regret and disgust 24/7 due to natural male mate securing efforts. Social status and persistent emotional states change your biology (social defeat stress, sickness behavior, etc). Repressed feelings of being wronged are proven to cause chronic inflammation at the very least.
Moids are chronic malingerers and fad dieters, so the projection doesn't surprise me. The bulk of their made up man-flus default to some sort of castration anxiety/muh skulinity stress (eating a vegetable made me a depressed cuck but going carnivore gave me hunter eyes! oxalate dump! post finasteride syndrome! seed oils were killing me!). It should never be taken seriously.
No. 1960586
>>1960355Dworkin herself was a major edgelord and the more unhinged babyfems latch on to her and Solanas b/c they were both very performative and attention hungry. They'll read a few pages/quotes from either of them and that will be their vibe for a short period of time. Dworkin was more academic than Solanas, tho.
That woman jut has no dignity
(derailing) No. 1960596
>>1960355Ew what the hell, I don't know her but Jesus.
>>1960586I get what you mean with the babyfem worshipping of Dworkin but I don't think it's fair to compare her to these chronically online attention seekers or say she would be supportive of trans today since times have changed massively like that nona pointed out
>>1958465 . I still find her work valuable even though I'm way past my babyradfem phase. If someone has ever read Dworkin or mentally processed radfem views and goes back to being a MAGA sexdoll clown that's due to the lack of intelligence of the person.
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>>1960355she’s been posting thirst traps… and feet.. sucks that she’s one of the more prominent “radfems” on twitter. why even call yourself one? (rhetorical question, attention)
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I hate Megan Murphy.
No. 1960962
>>1960959It’s milk because she’s a so called feminist tearing down a woman who’s recently been a
victim of ai porn for no other reason than she doesn’t personally like her. I actually agree Taylor’s music is boring, I never listen to it, but why is she bringing her appearance and “life story” into it? You know she’d never make a post like this about a man. She’s a pick me.
No. 1960976
>>1960962To be fair though, Meghan has stated she doesn't call herself a feminist anymore and hasn't for some time now unless I'm missing something.
I do agree with you though, it's ironic knowing that she would more than likely not say this about a male musician.
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>>1960976In that case, she shouldn’t even be In this thread, although she’s on the image for it. Also it’s hilarious when she looks like the way she does, with her beady little rodent eyes and premature aging. She just seems jealous. Anyone with eyes would say Taylor is far more beautiful than her.
No. 1961037
>>1960983She's targeting her because she's been a recent target of penile ire for being the exact opposite of what the jealous cow is calling her. I don't like her music, but pretending that she's bland, talentless and (OMEGALUL) unattractive is weapons grade cope. LSA levels even.
>>1960987Tale as old as time - mid woman hits the wall and panic drops any pretense of being a "feminist" to focus on getting picked.
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Does anyone else know Gyaru from Tumblr? She went from being a pretty normal person to posting about manipulating (her word) and hitting her gf all the time.
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>>1962549Don't remember that but she's said a lot of other crazy shit. Posted a rant about how DV
victims are stupid and deserve what they get. Got a lot of blowback from that. She's open about not experiencing empathy and suspecting that she may have ASPD or something similar.
No. 1962729
>>1960947Extra weird of her to randomly shit on Taylor Swift specifically (esp looks wise) when she was recently a high profile
victim of AI deepfake porn. Meghan doesn’t have to be a radfem to understand what a huge problem that’s going to be for all women now. But she can’t resist shitting on something other women like that moids hate I guess?
No. 1962739
>>1962729She says this in the article
Loving The Beatles is unoriginal for a reason: the music is universally loveable. It is good in a way that allows the most basic to enjoy it alongside the music nerds. You can pretend to not be impressed by them, but the sheer quantity of high quality albums and joyful, beautiful songs is difficult to argue with.
so I'm also going to go with trying to appeal to moids
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>Nazbol feminists
How the fuck did we end schizoids like this?(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
No. 1965117
>>1965115That’s hilarious because right wing men don’t just kneecap women when they get the chance. They’re happy to see women fucking immobilized.
IMO it has more to do with pickmeism and an insatiable desire for male approval than simply being tired of leftist male gaslighting. Those aren’t “feminists”, they’re disgruntled, often unpicked tradthots trying to get noticed and calling themselves feminist to be edgy.
No. 1965120
>>1965117Likely, but I also wouldn't be surprised if a good chunk of them are leftist women tired of leftist coddling of criminals (which always ends up with women beaten and killed by whatever flavor of mArGiNaLiZeD male that's fashionable right now), misogynistic vitriol towards white women, being told to tolerate rape from 3rd world moid immigrants and, of course, tranny bullshit. Oh, and how could I forget the whole "you don't tell us how to resist" shit from Hamas rapists, that must've been quite a blackpilling moment. To add to that, both rightoids and leftoids seethe about the only realistic means to insulate yourself from moidry (having your own assets), so true believer leftist women are pressured to live in squalor lest they be branded neoliberal PMC girlbosses - only a little better than being a bangmaid, really.
Right wingers are much worse and it's obviously the wrong reaction, but I completely understand this. They're being triangulated by right wing and left wing moids, not realizing that a moid is a moid. They are about as political as a virus or a parasite. A male by his nature has no motives outside of seeking access to female host.
There is a severe lack of a truly female interest group, one that isn't polluted by leftist mystifications (which inevitably end up siphoning resources towards males and innately male causes, such as tribal/ethnic grievances). Feminism is not allowed to exist without including everything and everyone, so you are expected to take on a wagon of horseshit causes before you can say you support women. Everyone is guilty of this including "women first" radfems.
(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE) No. 1965126
>>1965120It’s so depressing when it’s all laid out like this, not that I disagree.
I realize you’re just some anon on an image board and it’s weird to be asking so much of you, but what would you do on a grander scale? How/ could we make a true woman first movement work?
No. 1965128
>>1965120>>1965117The thing is, when commies say that 'real communism' has never been tried, they are technically correct. Every communist leader who has held actual political power has been a violent thug that has more in common with a local gangster then most modern communists. but many leftists are so delusional that they believe these leaders(who are essentially like mountain apes) were creating new theories. In a private conversation with his mother, Stalin even admitted that he essentially acted like a Tsar.
78% of the Bolsheviks had come from academic backgrounds and by the end, there were absolutely none. It was reduced to a small clique of men that Stalin knew, He Beria in Georgia, Molotov who worked with him in St. Petersburg before the October Revolution, Khrushchev's wife was friends with Stalin's wife during exile, Malenkov and Mikoyan just liked Stalin and supported him during the power struggle after Lenin's death, none of these men were qualified for their positions and all came from poorer backgrounds, but they were thugs who understood violence better than the other Bolsheviks, who were literally arguing ideology and something something Marx said. This made it easy for Stalin and this group to take power under everyone's noses.
No. 1965161
>>1965126I'd start with abolishing the socialization narrative and focus on biology. Real one, not like radfems do. Also, intersectionality has to go - poor men and men of color are not your friends. It may superficially help some marginalized women, but in the long run it will spell their doom.
Radfems believe that males behave the way they do because they're "socialized" wrong. Tradthots cope by telling themselves that male behavior is only found in some other ethicity of males, thus eating up a sperm competition derived narrative fed to them by males that own them. Ultimately, both groups of women are the same thing, failing to understand that across all species, the male's sole goal on a genetic level is to gain access to a host and self-replicate. What this means in practical terms is exactly what disillusioned feminists observe but can't explain: abstract ideology doesn't change the parasitoid nature of males, only how they exercise it. This isn't something that can be trained out of them - in every mammal, paternally imprinted genes drive maximum resource extraction from the mother, and will kill her if uncountered. Nobody taught or socialized males to be this way simultaneously across all corners of the planet, because this isn't a matter of culture at all. Whether the male is a fetus or an old lich, to him you are something akin to food, and always will be - it's not a conscious process at all. It's what he's built for, and he'll gladly choose everyone's demise over giving that up. That steak you just had? You don't think of the cow's suffering as you enjoy it, and no male really thinks of how fulfilling his reproductive programming harms you. If he did, humanity wouldn't exist.
When women stop seeing males AND themselves through the lens of made up male identities like race and ethnicity, when they're able to compartmentalize the feelings they have towards the parasitoids they're related to, perhaps then a truly "female" movement can be born. But the odds are against you, because you'd be fighting something that literally evolved to make you fight on its side to your own detriment.
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Imagine romaticizing creepy old men who go after young girls and women.
And almost all of the replies and quotes were from redpill incel men praising her. I hope she enjoyed all the validation from men for this post.
So many weird trad/religious terf accounts lately. The terf to trad pipeline is so real.
No. 1965291
>>1965279I just don't understand why the normal radfems stay silent and do nothing when they see all these crazy tradwife and religious women trying to co-opt the radfem movement.
Im so confused because these radfems all are brave and have all the time in the world when it comes to fighting with troons 24/7 but when it comes tradthot redpill radfems then all those "normal" radfems turn into cowards and stay silent. Like HELLO those bitches are taking over the radfem movement and turning it into some weird trad redpill religious place and none off those losers are telling them to fuck off.
Congratulastions soon radfems will be indistinguishable from your regular tradthot. And the people to blame are all the retards who were okay with radfems aligning with alt-right people or movements as long as we get "exposure" and now look at where that has gotten us….tradthots and boy-mom conservatives.
No. 1965294
>>1965161>ethnicity isn’t real But also
>only rich white men are goodIdiotic racists like you need to fuck off and stay in your conservative echo chamber.
No. 1965320
>>1965309White moids are sneaky enough not to shit in their own backyard (for example instead of raping kids in their own neighborhood where they are likely to get caught most of them would rather go to SEA to rape kids in secrecy there where no one will ever catch them for it). They’re also far more likely in general to be let off the hook for crimes like rape and murder than non whites.
It’s ironic that someone complaining about the
terf to trad pipeline lacks such self awareness that they basically state that only wealthy whites can be capable of civility and goodness and that everyone else is a dirty uncivilized savage that needs to be corrected and taught how to be human by white people. This dumb fuck really thinks that a rude rich white woman yelling at staff in Burger King getting called a ‘Karen’ on the internet is comparable to Black, Asian and Hispanic women being disproportionately targeted for sex trafficking in the US or being far more likely to be murdered. Bitch really thought she cooked. What a fucking retard kek.
No. 1965375
>>1965320Yas kwueen, you ATE. Defaulting to
triggered, incoherent twitterfaggotry is definitely how you're going to set those Nazi radfems straight lul
No. 1965433
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Tessa Cullmoids has hit rock bottom, getting drunk with men and having sex with them in exchange for a place to stay. Looking at her feed it seems she's lost her cat and wants to get a fuckbuddy moid to murder her senior dog. The previous moid who was her "roommate" bailed on her after realizing how much of a manipulative pos she is. She also is saying men can be radical feminists and any woman who doesn't like men just Can't Control Them As Good As She Can. for the record, I don't believe a word about how her breakup happened and feel really bad for her ex who she has publically harassed for months.
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>>1965433This is more or less what happened to vlaarie solanas, after fucking up every relationship she had with every feminist that was sympathetic with her, she went back to being a prostitute and shacking up with various men, some people are just that self destructive.
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More Tessa Cullmoids crazy. the account she tagged in picrel appears to be a racist moid nationalist friend of hers and as you can see she's trying to make him jealous. Demented. I hope no more women donate to her GoFundMe.
>>1965464is this text by Robin Morgan?
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>>1965479the user she tagged, looking at his profile, is a stereotypical Serbian (according to him living in California) racist wignat. Saw someone call him a known lesbian fetishist. and this is Tessa's e-boifran she's trying to make jealous? kek he's also coincidentally a RFH orbiter.
No. 1965485
>>1965320>>1965309>>1965323NTA but you people are delusional. Are we even reading the same thing? That anon didn't say white moids were better than any other moid; they explictly said they aren't.
>Tradthots cope by telling themselves that male behavior is only found in some other ethicity of males, thus eating up a sperm competition derived narrative fed to them by males that own themUnless this anon considers herself the tradthots she's criticising I have no clue how you saw this as a defence of white moids.
No. 1965549
>>1965479>hope no more women donate to her GoFundMe.Lol you know they will keep donating because radfems love these type of psychotic pickmes meanwhile they let actual feminist rot in the street.
>>1965484I feel like there is a phenomena of radfems and right-wing men dating/fucking because this isnt the first and it isnt a last time for radfems to entertain these men. Whenever i see some radfem get busted for being with a moid its always some crazy right-wing neet loser moid.
>>1965464I think its time we admit that many of these women who got turned into radfem leaders by these new 4th gen radfems, are cows. Like you have the ones saying how sexuality is a choice, the one who is hanging around right-wingers and affiliating with anti-abortion causes, one is a bpd crazy who got falsely branded a feminist just beause she shot a man, one defendes incest and pedophilia….and the list goes on. Are we surprised that modern radfems are cows when these are their idols?
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not too milky and more of a hearty kek but radicallyaligned rec'd sarah j maas books (acotar, throne of glass) on her tumblr and now uses goodreads rating of all things to justify her recs because she keeps getting blasted for recommending sjm.
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>>1965549"I think it's a bit unfair to dismiss all of them, and these issues weren't exclusive to feminists. It was part of a broader trend happening to the western left, which originated from rejecting the "methodology" of the eastern block(whom they considered red fascists). They wanted to forge a new path. It's not that their points came out of nowhere, they were influenced by leftist intellectual movements of that time. Radical Feminism itself has Marxian origins. That being said, while there was a lot of intellectual nonsense back then, there was also some good being done and a connection to reality. I would argue that it was the Riot grrrl movement that pushed it to it's current trajectory, resulting in pseudo-intellectual nonsense and pure LARPing. It was young women in university pretending not to have wealthy parents and being all about the revolution in their 20s and 30s. and as they entered the real world and punk died, they ended up supporting mainstream liberal feminist positions and married successful men in the movement.
No. 1965646
>>1965635I don't even think this is unique to radfems. This is literally normal leftoid behavior. Today's boomers are yesterday's hippies.
>>1965384Least autistic incelsectional feminist
No. 1965655
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>>1965646nta but even back then, there was definitely a difference between pointless LARPing and trying to make an actual change. Again, giving an example from Robin Morgan's autobiography and her experience with weather underground, I posted about them in the previous thread, Almost all of them came from wealthy backgrounds and unsurprisingly, very few of them faced imprisonment or harm from the government. Their "great revolutionary war" against the United States spanned a decade of bombings. Law enforcement mockingly referred to them as the "toilet cloggers" due to their tactics to blow up bathrooms in government buildings. and their most devastating bombing occurred when they accidentally obliterated one of their own safe houses. Some members lived in hiding for years before eventually surrendering, only to be shocked by the lenient punishment they received. Law enforcement simply didn't consider them worthy of prosecution. almost all are still alive and remain wealthy to this day.
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>>1965656>>1965668and then she (kelly) literally did have her own with a "nice man" (cody)
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The tinfoil theory about Radfem Hitler being a mod here posted in
>>>/meta/67831 compelled me to check her twitter and I realized one of her posts was eerily similar to a post from the celebricows thread a few days ago. I can’t prove she’s a farmhand but she definitely still uses this board kek
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>>1966008got cut off in picrel but she uses uglier and sperg on twitter and the leftcows mod message used those words and she’s fumed about lolcow on twitter too. I think her fuming started back when people called her a troon in leftcows. maybe she became a farmhand to punish the farmers kek
No. 1966037
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>>1966032This is some weird trolling. I recognise this storyline from the anachan thread.
>>>/snow/1962520 Just for anyone scrolling by here and paying serious mind to this retarded tinfoil someone's trying to push in obvious bad faith. Both the "sister fucking" and the pedo ring ran by grandparents is from here.
No. 1966228
>>1966102Kek yes this exactly.
>>1966120She's untreated bipolar and after doing shrooms and getting dumped (Tessa cheated) she's lost it completely.
No. 1966477
>>1965231Dani Kandi, literally all she talks about is how violent her rape was and how much she's afraid of her rapist, but also how happy she was to get torn open by his spawn and never considered not breeding for him. I don't see how these rapeson-breeders can cry about their rapists getting custody when they actively chose them to father their children. Lifelong connection to their rapist
was their super special choosey choicey.
No. 1966519
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I found this mexican radfem on twitter that goes by the name of @etherealfem that's somewhat milky
>Gets butthurt everytime someone gives her mild criticism.
>Is unironically racist and has said unsavory things about blacks.
She gives me brown Anna slatz vibes
No. 1966531
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I really should have posted this here, sage for super old milk, this is a vent essay, Dworkin wrote in response to the feminist academia of her day.
No. 1966532
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>>1966531the people she mentioned
>Pat Califia - was formerly a lesbian feminist and is now a bisexual transman. During Drowkin's time, Califia wrote extensively about feminist lesbian bondage and the empowering aspects of BDSM, as it challenges cis-hetero-patriarchy>Amber Hollibaugh - a self described "high femme gypsy dyke" who wrote and campaigned tons for "free sexuality" gay rights and the early queer scene >Gayle Rubin - Where do you I begin with this one, also formerly a lesbian and now a trans man, she was deeply involved in the most extreme aspects of BDSM. her entire personality revolved around doing every immoral and deemed it, "revolutionary and queer". her most famous incident involved burning a swastika into their lover's thigh with a branding iron(mine you Rubin was jewish herself)>Ellen Willis - Compared to everyone else, it is kind of weird that she was mentioned. her worst sin was being high-brow and having a lot of casual sex. Not super kinky BDSM-sex, but she had a lot of sex with men, right-wing men, left-wing men, young men, old men, the sons of her colleagues, the husbands. she loved sex and cigarettesAnd it's easy to think that these are some random groups of degenerates. However, they were the leading authorities of feminist academia at that time period, and even now, their ideas make up the canon of not queer theory, but feminist studies
(derailing)
No. 1966541
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Anna Slatz got suspended from Twitter
No. 1966545
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>>1966519She pissed off the blackcels in her latest drama kek
No. 1966547
>>1966545Radfems are always extremely racist for some reason. I don’t care about black scrotes feelings whatsoever and I’m glad she pissed them off, but I can see why the radfem to tradthot/right wing grifter arc is so common because a lot of them are straight up white supremacist Nazis in private, or zionazis if they’re Jewish. I feel like most of them hate
woc or look down on them like retarded children that don’t know how to wipe themselves or something. Just icky.
(blogposting/racebaiting) No. 1966669
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Speaking of Nazi radfems here are couple of Anna slatz disciples saying that Hitler did nothing wrong(sage your shit)
No. 1966758
>>1966547figures this would
trigger tardthots
No. 1967242
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I posted anout this in a different board a year ago but i realize that it is more fitting for the radfem thread, so im posting it here.
1/7
No. 1967589
>>1967580Don't you feel ashamed using troon tactics? You are literally using the "oh those people aren't us because i say so" tactic. Being gender critical is a big part of being a radfem, while not every GC is a radfem, every radfem is a gender critical.
One of the most prominent gender critical community before it got taken down on reddit, almost everyone there identified as radfem. Or are you going to claim they arent "one of yours".
So is the new tactic now going to be once they go full tradthot mode we pretend like they were never radfems.
(infighting) No. 1967607
>>1967580GCism is full of RWers and Nazis because it's inherently misogynistic. Why do you think moids and tradthots are drawn to it? "Women are incompetent compared to men in everything and are only really good at breeding" is what they believe to a T, which is why the movement attracts them like flies to shit while the majority of women are totally repulsed.
I'll never forget the last Ovarit post I ever saw where users were asked to name what things they think women are better at than men and the only answers the "radical feminists" could muster were breeding and taking abuse. What an absolutely bleak movement.
No. 1967627
>>1967607I have a feeling that question was "what are women physically better at than men?" and (and the truth is not a whole hell of a lot - balance, dexterity, pain tolerance, flexibility, get sick less), and you wildly misinterpreted it, because any group of women can come up with a list if things women are better at than men even if it was just things like cooperation, building relationships, not murdering people, etc. You are just deadset on hating gender critical movement for your own personal reasons. I'm sorry if the evil gc kidnapped your dog, burned down your house, and stole your partner.
No. 1967635
>>1967619>>1967627It's a tranny, lol. Typical "the majority of women such as M-MYSELF" and "if you can breed and I can't that's all you're good for!" testerical narratives. Pretty clockable.
5 bucks says it was some run of the mill "pregnancy is badass" ovarit mom reply, followed by something alluding to the fact that males are vastly less resilient in equally stressful situations, lensed through bricky shim seethe.
(infighting/troonfoiling) No. 1967665
>>1967607Wow, breaking down and criticizing gender stereotypes is misogynistic now? Thanks for enlightening us
nonnie!
No. 1967678
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>>1967627>>1967635It was a pretty bad thread for what it’s worth. Idk why nobody mentioned anything intellectual. And unfortunately a lot of women think that way even if it’s not true.
https://anony.link/https://ovarit.com/o/WomensLiberation/302017/let-s-talk-about-women-s-strengths>>1967665GC has a tradthot contingent and people who are disgusted by troons because they’re GNC.
The original movement in its intention isn’t misogynistic but as it is now there’s a lot of misogyny. I think also a lot of feminists just give up and become housewives (sadly).
No. 1967717
>>1967635I'm a woman, not a troon. I just dislike your movement, as most women do. Have you noticed you fellow GCs whining that they only get support from men while women give them the cold shoulder? This is why.
>>1967678That might've been how it started, but the current GC movement is absolutely not about criticizing gender stereotypes. Do you think all the Nazis and Christofascists would be so hot on GCism if it were truly about liberating women from gender constraints? GCers were supporting viciously anti-woman cons like Ron "banned abortion at six weeks" DeSantis because he hated troons too. They're laser-focused on troon hating, and throw their hats in with RW moids as a result.
No. 1967910
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>>1967842speaking of all this trad talk, here is a bangmaid Tessa Cullmoids curiouscat message from earlier. Tragic but I have no sympathy for her.
No. 1968720
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I came across this absolutely batshit insane radfem on Tumblr who thinks Ruby Franke (cultist and family youtuber who was arrested for tying up and starving her kids) was framed and obsessively hates gay men to the point of regularly hate reading the blogs of several random gay dudes and posting about innocuous shit they do/say.
No. 1968800
Idc about tims but i feel sorry for tifs and what happened to this girl, who cares if she was a thembie, she didnt deserve to die.
I still remember there was a article about another tif who got raped and radfem/GC anons in those threads were making fun of her and saying how she couldnt escape her female fate by being a tif and just showing no empathy. And i bet those same anons dont have empathy for this girl either.
Some radfems treat tifs like they are sperate human beings which is weird because tifs are biological women too by their logic.
No. 1968816
>>1968800TIFs are often autistic and belligerent, which makes them exasperating to deal with. This girl picked a fight with some girls who were bullying her, got beat up, then the hospital let her out without evaluating the extent of her injuries. It seems like she was getting bullied for being gender non conforming, the enby label didn’t save her, and the girls who beat her deserve punishment, however it is ironic that she ultimately died from medical negligence most likely due to misogynistic bias against female patients. Many radfems are posting about her, but a lot of TRAs are in big accounts laying the blame on them for spreading hate, presuming that it is a transphobic crime. Time will tell if they are jumping the gun on this like the did with briana gray, and smart people are hanging back on putting out a take on it until all information is available. For now, it really does not seem like it is at all related to transphobia and it is jarring to see so many TRAs who wanted to exclude no binaries as attention seekers and not really trans embrace this girl when it suits their narrative.
No. 1968890
>>1968821>>1968816Wow…..my point is literaly proven.
Saying how there isn't enough info to say why that happened but then talking out of your ass and
victim-blaming this young girl.
Lol funny how radfems and GC have more love and understanding for women like this
>>1967261 than young confused girls or "annoying belligerent autistic girls".
No. 1968948
>>1968925>bpd women who prey on radfem women with fake sob stories and elaborate sock accounts.like who? that white woman whose mother went to jail for committing fraud who spends like several months out of the year claiming to be homeless or on the brink of homelessness?
generally, radblr suffers from this thing where everyone in there is anonymous and if you do actually need help paying rent or some shit, radblr is the worst place to ask because not only is it not that social but no one knows who you are. you could be a man trying to guilt money out of 20somethings who aren't loaded and who will miss that $300 they sent you for "rent" and no one would be the wiser.
No. 1969783
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Comments from a recent Terri Strange live stream. This is the crowd she's attracting these days.
No. 1969874
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>>1969783She hasn’t been a radfem for a while, but really nothing exciting happened when she left the movement.
No. 1969899
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>>1969803Fair enough nonna, but Leah hasn't been radfem or milky in years, and publicly disavowed radical feminism at the same time as Terri, yet she's still mentioned in the OP.
>>1969874That post is interesting. I agree with picrel about her seeming not all there mentally. I've seen bits of her recent videos and she seems spacier and less articulate than before, although tbf I only watched her older videos occasionally
No. 1969988
>>1969874I think she probably felt lonely because she was picking endless fights with people. I recall her having beef with a ton of people
Also she always seemed to be into the new agey bullshit I always found that weird.
No. 1970527
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This is coming from a 40yo woman who used to orbit radfem Hitler, radfem Twitter and vice versa. Her tweets were about owning the men and incels by talking about "female power" and her nigels who are unlike incels, talking about how much of a gift she is to her young moid and how he could never be an incel since she's fucking him, being "divine feminine" by fucking boys to which she served herself on a silver platter and posted about her endeavors with 20yo scrotes. She was buying lingerie to give herself in to men from which she didn't even expect commitment cause she's a free "goddess" just using "prety boys" and getting applause from the radfems, her deactivated account was named "hyperwhorean" now she's on this one retweeting tweets about manifesting men to love you and it's all just filled with her insane male obsession, she even admitted to crying about her current 20yo moid and to thinking about him every single day, analyzing his every reaction and obsessing over it trying to "manifest" him loving her forever. RFH is still licking her ass and vice versa like it's just so retarded but they both are putting this weird facade on while being pathetic handmaidens. Wow so much "divine feminine sexual power".
No. 1970555
>>1970527I see this scenario all too often with poly-fags and FWB relationships. The moid is likely seeking a non-committal, casual sexual relationship while the woman initially believed she desired the same. However she ends up developing sincere emotions. And naturally, the man, who was merely exploiting her for sexual gratification, fails to reciprocate those sentiments. so the relationship either dissolves or the moid lacking alternatives settles. and they find themselves trapped in a profoundly
toxic marriage.
No. 1970781
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>When I first joined the women’s movement in the late 1970s, I was sneered at for watching rom coms, for preferring dogs to cats, and – as time went on – refusing to go to Greenham Common. (I like a shower, the telly, and clean clothes. I don’t camp.)
>Since then, my cultural choices haven’t become any more obviously feminist. If I were asked to describe my ideal evening at home it would involve cooking rabbit, watching The Godfather 2, listening to the album The Doggfather by rap artist Snoop Dogg, while sinking a negroni.
>Snoop’s music has a clear strain of sexism, but that has never stopped me listening to it. In 2003, I watched as he showed up at the MTV awards with two women in dog collars and leashes. And in 2010 I went to the Glastonbury Festival – my idea of hell (as I said, I really don’t like camping) – to see Snoop live on stage and report on it in the Guardian.
>In 2015, Snoop announced that, after years of calling women whores and bitches, he has changed his ways, and will from then on respect us. And while this might make it easier for some to enjoy his music, the truth is that, as a long-time fan, I have never really worried that my musical taste could end up with my feminist membership card being revoked. I have never subscribed to the orthodoxy of the Left, and find stringent group think tedious.
>When it comes to songs it’s not unusual for an artist’s voice and the beat to be brilliant, while the lyrics are offensive, as with Snoop’s back catalogue. In recent years, some feminists have responded particularly strongly to this issue, with many British student unions banning the song Blurred Lines by Robin Thicke back in 2013, on the grounds that it is “deeply offensive and dangerous”. Lines such as “I know you want it,” “Tried to domesticate you” and “Do it like it hurt” are clearly about rape, but at the time NUS women’s officers were kicking off about it, they were also busy getting me de-platformed from campuses where I was regularly invited to talk to students about the feminist campaigns to end male violence.
>To be a feminist is to live with daily contradictions and inconsistencies. In order to exist in the world, and consume pop culture, it’s difficult to avoid hardcore sexism. Hip hop is one of my favourite music genres, but the dominant message is often about men being in control; being hateful to women; and throwing their guns and money around while posing with flash cars. As Byron Hurt said, following the success of his film Beyond Beats and Rhymes, rich, white male music moguls promote African American rap artists with an image that perpetuates the racist stereotype of black men as pimps and gangsters. As a white woman who tries to be anti-racist, it is surely contradictory to my politics that I invest in a genre with this message? The women who feature as backing singers or dancers for male hip hop artists are also often portrayed in a racist and sexist way. Stereotypes of black women are played out in the videos, in which they are framed as overly sexualised and animalistic.
>So I don’t think that because a woman is a feminist all her actions are too; and I also don’t think that engaging occasionally in sexist pop culture makes someone less of a feminist. I do plenty of things that are not feminist, on a daily basis, such as watching reruns of Carry On films, and buying products from companies that pay women less than men.
>The truth is that, if feminists - especially those of us who prioritise the campaign to end male violence against women - restricted themselves to entertainment that was perfectly non-sexist, perfectly pure, we would be pretty miserable, and have very little to watch or listen to. No football, because of the machismo and sexist chants. A ban on books and TV programmes that are based on violence against women. I would need to throw away all my crime novels, and never watch The Killing again.
>As a feminist, under the system of patriarchy, to live a life without contradiction means I would have to wall myself off from the wider world of music, film and literature something I'm not prepared to do. Life as an activist could be unremittingly hard, if you chose to forego such genuine pleasures.
>To attempt to be ideologically perfect would not only be boring, but probably impossible. I deflect my guilt by telling myself that I prioritise effecting real and sustainable change for women, because while I may occasionally listen to a sexist song, or watch a film which is miles from passing the Bechdel Test, as a feminist activist I never, ever take time off. If judgemental moralists feel that listening to feminist folk music will bring about better change than direct campaigning to end violence against women, so be it. But I know what I would rather concentrate my efforts on.
No. 1971169
>>1969803Radfems
are the tradthots.
>>1967842>Women hang it up and become tardthots because it's better than starving or prostitution, men coerce women with resourcesThis might've been true before women had the legal ability to own their own bank accounts or have their own leases, but now? There's no to choose between starving and trad-whoring. Actual tradthots largely live in poverty and have a much harder time escaping it, even retail and fast food workers live better, more financially stable lives. What in the world are you talking about?
No. 1971193
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>>1971169It's a chicken or egg type situation, does RF produce fringe deranged beliefs, or do people with fringe deranged beliefs naturally gravitate towards it, here's an example of a radical feminist I posted in a previous thread, who I actually do respect, but don't necessarily fully agree with.
Renate Klein is very much an academic radfem of the second wave in most aspects. However, one decision and focus in her life pivots to more reactionary groups and that is her fear against transhumanism. It seems to have started around the mid-80s with the publishing of her book 'Test Tube woman' and since then she has been obsessed with the idea that groups of billionaires are funding transhumanists who are going to destroy womanhood and humanity with their evil crimes against nature. She seems to have made fighting against this her life goal, which has led to some interesting conclusions. For example, she is against abortions of "mentally feeble" people because she thinks that eugenics is part of the transhumanist agenda, she is also against the pill because she believes it is unnatural. In essence, she is a crunchy radfem.
No. 1971339
>>1971169NTA but many of these tradthots are women with no training, no education, no work experience and they're addicted to social media and too mentally unstable to hold down a job. For them it is a matter of either starving or prostituting yourself emotionally or physically. But that said, for a noticeable share of them it's specifically a hustle to make money. Selling shitty tradwife courses online can net them a good bit of money.
>>1971193A lot of radfems are seethingly bitter about liberal feminism being more mainstream but the cold fact is that ideologies with better adaptability and intersectionality will always attract more people from various walks of life, thus growing larger. Radical feminism is spitting facts as a concept, but due to its rigidity and aggression it also attracts people prone to black and white thinking. Many of the unhinged radfem icons believe in these grandiose conspiracies because as the patriarchy is proven to be a real thing, why wouldn't this other secret global organization be? Conspiracy theories are made to be easy answers to complex issues created by structural problems, i.e. trannyism can't be popular just because gender nonconformity and homosexuality is still demonized to the point it causes people to see a dissonance between what they are and how society perceives them and of course a capitalist society will exploit peoples' insecurities, it has to be all attributed to some huge transhumanist agenda driven by secret multibillionaires using children as test subjects or a CIA psyop and only if we get rid of those villains the problem will be solved and we will be free and so forth. No long-term, messy work of sacrifices and compromises required. Some parts might contribute, but at its core the popularity of gender discourse was long coming as a growing pain of struggling to liberate women and deconstruct gender roles.
No. 1971378
>>1969803Some anons are simply not here for milk. They are here to virtue signal and go 'how dare this woman listen to x or do y, i-i'm a better radfem and leftie than her! i'm a good girl!!'
>>1968925I wish there was more discussion around the constant influx of women with BPD traits who are drawn to RF organizations and online spaces. Radfem online spaces are pretty much a place where autistic/dour but agreeable women bond with severely mentally ill/slightly antisocial women (well, sometimes they're part of both categories). This often ends up with the latter treating the former as bottomless compassion dispensers and emotional punching bags if things go south. I suspect blackpillers are a consequence of this state of affairs
No. 1971386
>>1971378Blackpillers are women who notice male and female pattern behaviors and come to the reasonable conclusion that all men are misogynistic tyrants and all women are pickmes and that these behaviors are biological, they think that straight relationships are a prostitution and find women who partner or are friends with men disgusting because unlike them, blackpilled women hate men and are scared of them for the obvious reason so they reject relations with them completely out of self preservation. These things is something everyone can observe, male misogyny and women being handmaids, female blackpill actually started on reddit and it had nothing to do with radical feminism back then. It was just women venting about how all men are rapist pedophiles and women are their pickmes and how we are gaslighted for pointing it all out and can't have a space for ourselves to be outside of the hivemind of the common opinions, cock sucking, male terrorism and all that shit that really brainwashes you especially if you don't fit into it all then you feel imprisoned mentally cause you can't speak certain things and it makes you feel crazy. The hate blackpilled women get is the reason why these women are blackpilled in the first place IMO because it shows how women can't accept another woman being different, holding men and other women accountable, not being a handmaiden, not being gender conforming and not fucking with men. I don't think all most radfems are separatists but blackpilled women very much don't wanna engage with men and can't find themselves in the society due to their rejection of men, handmaidens, heterosexuality etc. ending up in a straight relationship or motherhood would be a prison so what else you can do in society as a woman?
They come to radfem spaces because any other space is filled with normies, porn, sex positivity, female socialization and men
(off topic) No. 1971628
>>1970968She posted a video to her yt last year called "it's not a movement" but I won't link it because I don't think I was fair to her in
>>1969899She talks about being disappointed in a lack of action from radfems and not wanting to be associated with the label anymore, but her views don't seem to have changed much. She still doesn't wear makeup or shave and is pro abortion and anti surrogacy and so on. She apparently is some kind of christian now like Terri, but unlike Terri she doesn't seem to have gone trad. She's just less aggressive about her views and makes more videos about other subjects. I don't think she should be included in the OP though because she hasn't been milky in ages.
Also I'll admit my post
>>1969783 was more of a vent and didn't belong itt. My apologies nonnas, maybe I need a break from lcf
No. 1971666
>>1971625No, McD's and other fast food franchises do not require one to speak two languages or have any sort of competency more advanced than a 15 year old may have. You're grasping at straws as to why these women are less competent than
children and retards and "need" to serve as fleshlight-maids to moids. This isn't the 19th century. There is no reason for these women to "have" to resort to this.
No. 1971982
>>1971666NTA but McDo's type jobes are soul-crushing and actually worse than tough masculine jobs in some aspects (less degrading, more stable). 'Feminine', unstable shit jobs might provide temporary relief but there is a point where it's not sustainable mentally. This isn't just a matter of money, raising a human being is more fulfilling than sweeping floors for a pittance, even with all the caveats. People need to look forward to something in their lives and if you don't have access to a degree for whatever reason then the trad route is hard to dismiss. What kind of life do you lead to be this blissfully ignorant? Can't you see the absolute state of the labor market in the west, especially for working class women?
If you weren't yet another edgy cancerous poseur, you'd stress the importance of education/training (incl. getting education as a mother) instead of calling them fleshlights (how daring).
inb4 'women have kids and still work!!' yes, but they still have a whole child to come home to and stay alive for. What do holier-than-thou retards like you have to offer besides 'ummmm go flip burgers' and a superiority complex?
(derailing) No. 1972077
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Our radical feminists, everybody!(this isn't milk, sage it)
No. 1972356
>>1971982That's an issue of work reformation not feminism, There are countless job structures that persist solely due to outdated systems. In my previous job, I had to work 8 hours, but the actual workload barely amounted to less than 3 hours, The majority of my time was wasted on podcasts. I could tolerate that, but what truly enraged me was the
toxic work politics and never-ending drama. It felt like I was reliving high school all over again.
(blogposting) No. 1972400
>>1971982Housewives are among the least happy, fulfilled women. They also end up in poverty more often than even women working shit retail/fast food jobs do, since their "work" is being an on-call prostitute and maid for a moid. She can't put it on her resume, it makes no money, provides no benefits. If she even gets alimony and child support, that's a pittance when it comes to raising a child(or children) and supporting herself.
You're creating a dichotomy that simply doesn't exist. There's no wageslave vs. bangmaid choice for working class women. It's a false choice.
>If you weren't yet another edgy cancerous poseur, you'd stress the importance of education/training (incl. getting education as a mother) instead of calling them fleshlights (how daring). Why do mothers have to be treated like children? Yes, a housewife is a fleshlight-maid. She's not competent enough to support herself on her own two feet, by your own admission, and her glaring incompetence now affects not just herself but her children, too. Mothers should be under an even more critical eye. You don't get asspats for breeding.
>inb4 'women have kids and still work!!' yes, but they still have a whole child to come home to and stay alive for. What do holier-than-thou retards like you have to offer besides 'ummmm go flip burgers' and a superiority complex?What even is this comment? If a woman has no life outside of being a mawwwmieee, there's something wrong with her mentally. Women like this are too dumb and/or too unambitious to cut it elsewhere and having total control over a child is the only thing that gives them a sense of power and fulfillment. Feminism is about the liberation of women, not giving women asspats for having messy creampie sex. They should actually
do something if they want praise.
Probably a moid, but I get why "radfems" have daughters that troon out so often. If your only example of what a woman can be is an unaccomplished, incompetent, unfulfilled fleshlight-maid whose life revolves around fucking and sucking and cleaning up after moid&spawn, why would she want to be one?
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>>1972429I read that post and you are misrepresenting it. A woman who was an expert on primitive anthropology made an authentic sweat lodge by hand and was second place to a man who cheated by gaining 80 lbs before the game and won by out starving everyone else. Did no interesting survival techniques, was just a lazy fat moid who min-maxed the show because he thought it’d be easy money. Extremely boring to watch and pissed a lot of fans of the show off. He even beat out a guy who made his own canoe. The producers of the show responded by changing their selection process. This thread is always totally milkless low-effort agenda posting by obvious tourists.
https://ovarit.com/o/Television/539816/alone-brutal-survival-show-demonstrates-just-how-tough-women-can-be No. 1972980
>>1972400NTA but
>What even is this comment? If a woman has no life outside of being a mawwwmieee, there's something wrong with her mentally. Women like this are too dumb and/or too unambitious to cut it elsewhere and having total control over a child is the only thing that gives them a sense of power and fulfillment.Isn't this what's being implied here? Of course these women are mentally too weak to go through with a regular service industry work. They wouldn't be bangmaids otherwise. It's not the decision of a sane person to become a barefoot and pregnant housewife relying on a man, but that's a widely accepted and even encouraged choice in certain spheres. There are a lot of women who are taught that it's an acceptable option to pick if they don't want to be exploited and abused by some asshole manager and clientele yelling at them every day while they break their back working a miserable dead end job that makes you feel insignificant and worthless. It doesn't mean it's an objectively good choice, but when you're between a rock and a hard place you pick the straw that
seems least mentally taxing as a concept i.e. staying home and having someone else provide for your basic needs like shelter and food even if it's even worse for you in the long run.
>Feminism is about the liberation of women, not giving women asspats for having messy creampie sex. They should actually do something if they want praise. This is honestly where a lot of radfems hit the ground running at imo. Women should be held responsible for their actions, but motivation isn't born inside a vacuum and nobody is immune to propaganda. We can all agree on patriarchy and how it molds a woman, but for some reason a lot of anons on this site as well short circuit on the topic of housewives and forget this principle despite accepting women being influenced by patriarchal structures in every other way. Women are encouraged to take traditionally feminine roles and are shamed for being career-driven mothers because they "neglect" their children, but at the same time they're considered leeches when they stay at home looking after the kids. You get shat on for your actions either way, so why would you do a 9 to 5 on side while taking care of your family and house? Just for clarity's sake I'm against being a housewife and I don't want any woman ever to be fully dependent on a moid's charity but understanding why women do it is essential to making structural changes. Just yelling about "messy creampie sex" like a weirdo when these women have been driven into a drastically different mindset is the equivalent of them calling feminists ugly dead egg spinsters, it goes nowhere and has no desired effect in the other. In an alternative timeline any of us could've ended up in their position because each one of us has to actively push against it in some way.
No. 1973848
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kelly/terfectly is pregnant with twins
No. 1973927
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Barely milk so sage but radblr is so funny sometimes. This is folx btw
No. 1973945
>>1973848Ironically, her attachment to labels that objectively don't accurately describe her
such as terf or misandrist makes her more similar to trannies than actual radfems.
>>1973915I'm convinced that the only reason she's not
rightfully exiled from radblr is because her blogs get terminated too often for people to keep track of her baggage. People remember her original urls and that she has a baby, but not much else.
No. 1973974
>>1972980You did a better job explaining this than i did kek
>>1972400>Probably a moid>sucking&fucking>fleshlight>spawnFascinating. Can't you see the irony in your scrotefoiling?
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I can't tell if this is a humble brag or an attempt at self deprecating humor.
No. 1974187
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>>1974185what are the chances of something like this this happening twice.
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>>1974176these are her books btw.
No. 1974208
>>1974185terfectly/oatterf/the word salad that is her new URL has had so many questionable takes – she suggested that since intersex males who have an advantage like caster semenya are "raised as women" they should be allowed to compete against women which is asinine.
then she talked about her history of drug addiction and stuff like that which I didn't want to read abou to be honest.
really this is someone who should not have taken the plunge and had a kid but that's the level of good judgment that these women are expected to have.
No. 1974576
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>>1957610she recently retweeted picrel, but remember she's totally not a tradthot.
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>>1974537NTA but shit like this ig. Posting it next to feminist or manhating posts is so pathetic, I get that women will always have their Nigels but the lack of integrity is embarrassing.
No. 1974641
>>1974576For context, this is the only right way to vote for that referendum (how could any nonna think otherwise?), and got the highest no vote of any referendum in Irish history, some places over 93% no. Except for where the politicians live, kek
>>1974638Samefag, hi past me
No. 1975008
>>1974588>>1974667tinfoiling but i wouldn't be surprised if she transforms into a stereotypical
toxic boymom. the other day she posted about how bad circumcision was like it was such a barbaric practice, meanwhile she barely posts about any of the misogynistic shit that happens to women. she's trans critical at most. many women on radblr are also very critical of birthing sons so when she had her daughter a lot of them congratulated her for having a daughter and how lucky she was and she acted all weirded out as if she hasn't been surrounded by female separatists for years prior. at least her daughter is too young to be parentified.
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What the fuck did she mean by this?
No. 1975631
>>1975580I think it's worthwhile to remember that mothers take everything they perceive as devaluation of motherhood extremely personally. In that sense, it will always be the radfem counterpart to libfem "don't yuck my yum" aka making any sort of observation on sexual servility of sexpoz ideology. If you have done something to yourself that's a massive L, it takes incredible fortitude to admit it instead of coping and doubling down. You also need to remember that by nature, successful pregnancy makes you blind to its own effects.
Knowing this, feminism would have incredible difficulty achieving mainstream adoption if it hadn't offered validation to lifestyles that directly contradict its observations. This isn't uncommon, see also: laypeople and monastics in Buddhism.
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This feels more and more like humblebragging.
No. 1976067
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>>1975986>who got a huge ass labrys tatto on her arm only to come out as bisexualdidn't timheideckers do this too? such a weird thing to have happen twice kek
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>>1975763NTA but go on lesbiansdatingmen on Tumblr, there are her old posts, screencaps etc. Picrel is particularly… interesting.
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>>1976268thank you for the rec, anon, the posts on there are insane. i especially kek'd at picrel, op was way ahead of her time.
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>>1976268scrolling through that blog i came across this absolute radblr interaction
>i have to fuck men i have arthritis >check your het privilege shitlord (is also straight) No. 1976731
>>1976656celestia was such an edgelord cow, it was obvious all of her views were just whatever got her more attention through controversy, iirc she started as an anti-sjw mra egalitarian, bragged about how much she loved guro and shota and even had a short lived polilez phase at some point. before her white nationalist tradthot phase (is she still one? who knows even) she was one of those "not like other whites" trying too hard to fit in with the
woc on radblr kek
No. 1976754
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Is anyone else following ms-revived-frogs and her embarrassing descent through the terf-to-trad pipeline? She joined radblr at either 15 or 16, mostly spent her time sucking up to the resident crazies (made a whole post about how people only dislike menalez because they're racist) and constantly getting in miles long internet debates with people 24/7 no matter how obviously bad faith they are. Trying to scroll through her blog is a nightmare because of this. Identified as a febfem. Never dated any girls/women. Removed "febfem" from her bio and started dating a pro-life Catholic man last year. Last November, she got massive blowback from lesbian radblr for telling a lesbian that she understands "why straight girls are uncomfortable around you people" out of nowhere because said lesbian said factually correct negative things about pregnancy. Disappeared for like 3 months and came back as a pro-life Catholic. She also removed "bi" from her bio. Her blog now mostly contains Catholicism, Pride & Prejudice gifs, other very tradthot-esque aesthetics, and long reblog wars about abortion. Claims to recognize that her comment was lesbophobic, genuinely be sorry for it, and be doing better but also unironically refers to the people who called her out as "bullies" who "drove [her] off the site." Reblogs from blogs with URLs like "essence-of-femininity."
No. 1976846
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Kathleen Stock Dives further into tradthotism
>For decades now, an axiom of middle-class feminism has decreed that there are no important inbuilt differences between male and female brains. In fact, so the favoured story goes, there are no male and female brains at all, except in the trivial sense that there are a variety of human brains, each lodged within male and female bodies and shaped by external “gendered” circumstances that vary from culture to culture. A second axiom tends to follow swiftly: anyone who says otherwise is probably a sexist pig. This week, however, both of these foundational assumptions were dealt a blow by new research emerging from Stanford University.
>Neurobiologists there have discovered that a specially designed “deep neural network”— that is, an AI presumably devoid of the misogynist prejudices of ordinary mortals — can reliably sort brains into male and female categories based on the detection of “hotspot” activity patterns. Worse, it seems that the AI can also use these differences to reliably predict different cognitive performances in men and women on certain tasks, suggesting that functional brain variations have behavioural implications. Though it’s a bit early to say, perhaps we can now look forward to a more harmonious future, where a woman can be proudly unapologetic for her inability to reverse park, and a man gets to blame his brain for repeated failures to notice that his wife is crying. Meanwhile, for the many thinkers who have staked their professional identities to the non-existence of two kinds of brain, now might seem like a good time to move some eggs into a different career basket.
>Indeed, some feminist researchers already appear to have got that memo, with their provocative stances becoming noticeably more diluted as the years pass and new evidence for the opposition’s case stacks up. Back in 2019, British neurobiologist Professor Gina Rippon — author of the brashly-titled The Gendered Brain: The new neuroscience that shatters the myth of the female brain — felt confident enough to dismiss the idea that there were any systematic brain differences based on “sex alone” as “neurofoolishness’. Furthermore, she said, any limited differences that did exist between men’s and women’s brains were “much more a function of experiences”, and a result of contingent exposure to “our gendered world”, than the predictable result of background chromosomes and hormones.
>In retrospect, for researchers to rule out systematic brain differences largely caused by biological factors in a sexually dimorphic species like ours — and, even more boldly, before adequate technology had been developed to spot them — was always going to pose a reputational risk; a bit like 16th-century astronomers pronouncing themselves absolutely positive there are no further planets in the solar system just before telescopes are invented. What could explain such apparent recklessness? Partly to blame must have been the fear that modern scientific confirmation of the existence of such differences would be used against women in the long run.
>As with progressive arguments about reality generally, sometimes the most pressing task is not to establish what is true or false, but rather to lure people away from accurate apprehension of a socially dangerous idea. And it’s not clear that dire predictions in this respect are wrong. Although now a cliché, it’s still true that, throughout history, a raft of excuses for female ill-treatment and subjugation have been predicated on claims about their supposedly more inferior brains. In many countries, the already parlous state of women’s equality would surely be propped up by any scientific-looking discovery of non-negotiable cognitive and behavioural variations from the male norm. Equally though, in countries like the UK where feminised skills like verbal reasoning and emotional intelligence are increasingly demanded in the jobs market, it could be that the discovery would end hurting men’s life chances more.
>Whatever problems might result in either direction, these would be compounded by general statistical illiteracy and an inability not to hear a claim that there are certain patterns across a huge population as an invitation to draw the same conclusions about each and every member. And then there’s also an apparent temptation to start treating some sex-typical behavioural patterns, averaged across a general population with many exceptions, as representing a kind of template definitive of the “male brain” or the “female brain” itself — which can even be lifted from its original genetic context and attributed to individuals of the opposite sex, should their individual qualitative characteristics seem to fit the bill. Bizarrely, given his intellectual background, this appears to be the approach adopted by former mathematical physicist Eric Weinstein, who in a widely circulated clip this week claimed that “there are people with male brains in female bodies, and conversely”, arguing that society should be more compassionate towards them.
>Of course, many of us by now are very familiar with the general gambit of adjusting claims about reality to fit better with perceived moral commitments. For its basic form is also present in the progressive doctrine that self-identified transwomen should indeed be classified as women, because it would be very harmful for them if people said otherwise. Indeed, there is an increasingly popular narrative amongst anti-feminist commentators such as Matt Walsh that the current transactivist derangement still gripping many institutions started with feminism. In most ways this is diabolically unfair, especially since radical feminists were at the forefront of fighting transactivist ideas years before Walsh cottoned on. But it’s true that certain feminist academics wrote the playbook for wishful thinking about reality. Time and again in scholarly writing, you encounter the bizarre thought that if an idea has consequences that are helpful to women, that must be a point in favour of its truth; and if unhelpful, it’s a point against.
>“Certain feminist academics wrote the playbook for wishful thinking about reality”
>This isn’t just the more benign claim that some inconvenient truths can safely be ignored. There are lots of facts in the world it would be pointless or detrimental to pursue. It’s not even a deliberate fake-it-til-you-make-it strategy, self-consciously pretending to others that something is true because a widespread commitment to the existence of that thing would better fit some group’s interests. Rather, it’s the mad idea that the anticipated social undesirability of something being widely believed to be true can be recycled into a positive epistemic reason as to why that thing couldn’t actually be true in the first place.
>For instance: there can’t be consistent sex differences favouring mathematical reasoning abilities in males, on average, because if there were, this would keep talented females out of STEM subjects. (Argue away about the differences by all means, but don’t pretend this is a good reason to think there aren’t any.) Or: women must be understood as a socially defined “gender” and not as a biologically defined sex, because if women were a biologically defined sex, unscrupulous men would treat their biology as destiny, and oppress them on that basis. The latter argument appears in feminist writing from at least the Seventies onwards, and is still being regurgitated by philosophy professors with a supposedly advanced grasp on logic to this day.
>Quite apart from the fact you are likely to end up spouting gibberish if you proceed in this way, there are other pitfalls too. One is that, since your assumed noble aim is to avoid harm to others by reasoning as you do, you are more likely to start uncharitably misrepresenting intellectual opponents in a particular factual dispute as if their primary aim must be to commit harm — when of course it need not be at all. This partly explains not just the unjust accusations of “transphobia” so easily launched at sex realists, but also the weirdly spikey feminist mentions of neurofoolishness and the like in the context of brain research.
>And relatedly, since you have now lost touch with reliable truth and evidence-seeking methodologies at least some of the time, you are more likely to have to resort to histrionic misdirection in arguments with your opponents: not just unfair ad hominems, but also objections that they have not read or understood “the literature” or paid suitable deference to elders in the field; accusations of mansplaining when they quite reasonably argue back; complaints that you are too exhausted to carry out the emotional labour of “educating” them all over again; and so on. Again, such manoeuvres are by now a well-known staple of reality-denying transactivism, but arguably, reality-denying versions of feminism got there first. Ironically, such guilt-tripping, heartstring-pulling rhetorical devices are still sometimes employed by self-proclaimed feminists, partly in the service of insisting that women could not possibly be more emotional or irrational than men by nature. And I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it does not come across as particularly convincing.
No. 1976888
>>1976846There's a point in saying 'different, not inferior' but the ideological drive to see women as defective males is so strong you can't blame the couple radical feminists who went all the way with 'blank slate' logic (whatever that means, sounds like a fake quote). Plus journalists will report on neurosciences (a young field) and psychiatry with impressive claims to attract readers, only to correct themselves years later. Happens constantly, you can't take these claims too seriously because of that. Wonder if Stock ignored this unconvenient reality when writing this.
>>1976867NTA, true but it's funny you'd mention 'bulldykes' and tifs, from what i've seen it's the feminine ones who only date other feminine women that are the most likely to do male worship
But yeah, sexual orientation isn't a political opinion
No. 1976909
>>1976754Being forced birth is the literal antithesis of feminism. How does someone get their brain scrambled this badly? Annoying as they are, I've never seen a libfem revert to tradthottery or claim a woman is equal to a fucking fetus in terms of importance.
>>1976856Stock is a heterosexual boymom so devoted to traditionalism that she can't help herself from going to bat for it even while still keeping up her lesbian LARP.
No. 1976916
>>1976867ayrt, not denying that misogynist lesbians are out there but the term 'tradthot' is becoming as meaningless as '
TERF' when you apply it to people who are neither a) living a traditional heterosexual lifestyle or b) thots, lol.
so far no one has explained what part of this article is incorrect, so i'm going to assume anons think because stock had kids with a man, everything she says must be incorrect?
No. 1976939
>>1976912But a lot of the posts itt aren't about radfems being too extreme, they're about them being conservative or not feminist enough, like by having kids, dating men, or valuing motherhood.
>>1976916>'tradthot' is becoming meaninglessI thought the same thing when someone called Hannah Berelli a tradthot last thread. She might have some questionable takes but she's not a tradthot. She's a marxist lesbian who regularly criticizes the trad lifestyle.
No. 1977091
>>1970527I think the "spiritually evolved divine feminine enlightened embodiment of a goddess living the powerful feminine energy" 40yo woman who "uses" collage as her "boy toys" for which she basically acts like a private pornstar(boys lingerie to wear for them, sends pics, visits them like a prostitute serving herself on a silver platter, talks about sucking off their dicks or going on forest date and planning to fuck them there while airing all of this online) got dumped by her "toy"(which armpit sweat she wants to rub into her eyeballs because she loves him so much) and wants to manifest him back. RFH commenting on her priv acc makes me cringe, I don't know if she 200% got dumped but I searched her @ out of curiosity and the replied to her acc suggest it. It shows how cringe and childish misandry is. These women suffer from severe male obsession
, they disguise it with misandry. Like RFH is a great example of that. I hate men and get repulsed by women who don't but this shit is clownery. Spreading false ideas and grooming other women into your retardation while pretending you're in power.
No. 1977098
>>1977094That could have been a viable option, but I don't think that is possible anymore with the increasing economic problems. You can have your own job, but you still can't afford an apartment, even with a roommate. obviously the solution is of course not to get married and pump out babies, but the dream of an independent and free life is effectively dead for most of us
>>1977095this is a radfem cows thread, and we are discussing radfem ideology.
No. 1977169
>>1977094Unfortunately, the leftcom tier pursuit of perfect praxis and ideological purity makes succeeding in a capitalist system (having money so a moid can't vulture-capitalist your orifices) a detestable goal. That is the main weakness of radical feminism - not that it hates men or whatever, but that it on principle refuses to be "corrupt" or practical, which leads to even greater ideological concessions down the road (e.g. sneering at taylor swift girlbosses because they're impure neoliberal capitalists only to eventually become a literal blackpilled tradthot she-serf to survive). This is completely normal and commonly satirized leftoid stuff, radfems didn't invent it by any measure.
Tl;dr radfems are the bordigists of gender. Hopefully this ends the theory debate ITT.
(politisperging) No. 1977170
>>1976952>but the vast majority of it's content is just a bunch of old women reading the essay's of other second wave radical feminist and that's it,Stop being stupid. The vast majority of the content on their yt channel is meetings and women talking about whatever is going on their country, which you can see on their yt homepage
https://www.youtube.com/@WomensDeclaration/videos.
Second, this group was started by old school radfems so of course they do most of their work in person, not on the internet. You'd have to join up to find out what they are actually doing.
Third, the history of feminism and the fight against sexism and misogyny is ignored and/or erased by the mainstream, leaving every new generation of women to think they have to reinvent the wheel. So, they think it's important to talk about radfem history so new radfems can be aware of the history of their movement.
No. 1977482
>>1976846Wow, I had no idea she was this big of an idiot. Her logic is literally
>early ai study shows some brain differences in men and women>therefore, women are “more emotional or irrational than men by nature.”Kek what?? What sort of insane leap of logic is that, Kathleen?
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This could literally be National Socialist Women's League quote marker
No. 1977967
>>1977809Radfem theology literally states that men are fixable because their vile behavior is conditioned. They are innately liable to fall for other "salvation" ideologies.
>>1977774Reproduction is a
cost to females, but not males. The process is innately asymmetrical on a mechanistic level. It's expected that when the females can avoid bearing that cost, many (if not most) of them will. This is why nearly every male mammal uses sexual coercion, and why fetuses use pathogen-like tactics to remain implanted and eventually cared for.
No. 1977988
>>1977967NTA I’m not even involved in this infight but
>Radfem theologyAre you trying to say feminism is a religion? Kek
If you meant “theory”, then I’d like to point out theory is subject to change and revision, just because some women theorized about things one way 60 years ago doesn’t lean their words are set in stone like religious scripture. Also, socialization is still part of the picture when it comes to male behavior.
No. 1978021
>>1977985Yes, it's average Marxist stuff. Which is also innately a theological argument despite being disdainful of organized religion, being inspired by hegelian idealism and all.
>>1977988There will obviously be amended versions and various offshoots, but classic (Marxist) radical feminist thought denies socialization as a downstream effect of human nature. Mostly because of a deep seated belief that nature=waman deserves bad stuff, also fear of becoming as evil as males by admitting superiority. Women are understandably not ready to see the issue as an amoral survival effort, which is the true disadvantage of female biology - a massive prosocial bias that inevitably encompasses and benefits our adversaries.
No. 1978095
>>1976897that's the same thing
>>1977093>you can vote…i might even go to jail if i kill you….what more do you wantwho let the mra in
No. 1978106
>>1978096Every single part of it, no matter where you look, from the moment sperm travels through the reproductive tract to birth. Tl;dr:
The male cannot self-replicate without using a different body as a host. The male genome within the fetus and the placenta specifically facilitates maximum resource extraction from the female. Contrary to the "nurturing mother" and "women want to be pregnant" narrative, the female genome controls and sends signals that stunt or prevent growth. Overactivation of growth pathways is known to be the main cause of disease and aging in adults. Female aging and disease benefits male fitness (fast life history). If the fetus (male genome) succeeds too much, the host gets preeclampsia and both die, so the mother must provide an optimal amount of rejection. At every step, it's less of a "wanting and welcoming pregnancy" and more of a "damage control" or "coping with defeat", regardless of the host's subjective feelings about the process (all of which are likely a product of altered brain chemistry - another pathogen tactic). All of the above is true for humans but not every other sexually reproducing animal for several reasons that would take another tl;dr to list.
The same pattern is reflected in animal and human populations at large - males getting what they "ideally" want kills the species, and therefore should never be appeased for their own sake. Pathogens kill themselves all the time by evolving to be too virulent. The concept isn't new:
https://phys.org/news/2023-03-good-genes-bad-sexual-conflict.ampThere is an argument to be made that resisting males and maleness is genuinely the most "trad", compassionate and pro-male thing you can do for them, but that's for another time.
No. 1978135
>>1978110That would need its own thread. But it would be good to start with promoting a factual view of the nature of pregnancy, true directionality of sexual development and the existence of sexual antagonism in humans. It's boring academic stuff, but it can be made sufficiently accessible. When you know to anticipate hostility, you are better prepared. Less time wasted pondering the nature of male aggression or futile attempts at conditioning it away, more time devising defense strategies or re-prioritizing.
Furthermore, a factual view of pregnancy (while initially hurting the feelings of mothers) would likely be better for bargaining towards better treatment of mothers and motherhood.
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why do so many radfems seem to get into financial trouble?
No. 1978227
>>1978226Because actually making a living wage or participating in the society around them is a libtard conspiracy.
>>1977169 hit the nail perfectly on the head with her analysis, the wild goose chase for ideological purity and refusal to exit your echo chamber cuts you off from resources such as money and many support networks that would be beneficial for your cause in the long run. People who don't dedicate their entire time to feminism and actually work a job to make ends meet are seen as participants to oppression, I clearly remember some sperg on Lolcow starting a long infight how women shouldn't be encouraged to have a successful working career and clib the ladder because it's akin to being a pawn to men. Even the woman in your screenshot is doing "radical feminist/lesbian historical archiving" which is a noble cause, but not something fit for a full-time job and e-begging for it makes you look like one of those tranny scammers demanding you to give money for their own harebrained anti-transphobia funds and "archival projects". I understand if you for example get doxed and fired from your job for feminist activism yet need to pay the bills but a lot of these people are just pin peddlers on etsy and "freelance amateur historians" whose work consists of QRTing people on Twitter.
No. 1978238
>>1977092>the latter, while not advocating for communes has become a little more realistic, advocating for Korean-based 4BThis too has an obvious problem. You can't even know how awful the economy is going to end up. You can work hard and live with your friends, but some recession could cause housing to skyrocket, and you'll have to move back in with your parents. Obviously, the solution isn't marrying a scrote and pumping out babies, but pushing for subsidized housing is a goal. That's why imo all feminists should have socialist principles. To the 1% who make it, I'm glad for them, but all of us could benefit from it and this won't turn the state into the new patriarchal protector and usher in the new era of Fascism like Dworkin argued(not a hater, but she was really far off with regards).
>>1978227Somewhat related to the point above, the thing is that in the 70s, you could afford to live on your own with just a part-time job. That's not possible anymore, unless you have extremely wealthy parents.
No. 1978349
>>1978147nta but I would participate and would particularly like recommendations for people writing about biorealism
>>1977482this is a much more interesting criticism than whether she’s a polilez lol. even if machine learning interpretations of brain activity weren’t a new field, there are always “one or two studies” to support any given point. to actually support the idea of different male and female brain activity patterns she would need to have brought in way more data, and find some way to separate out differences resulting from lived experience from innate differences due to sex/hormones. in a way it can make an argument look worse to cite just one study for Science Points, than to cite no studies at all and accept that the argument is purely conceptual.
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Any milk on @HazelAppleyard_ on Xitter? She’s a self proclaimed “feminist” but she just seems like another run-of-the-mill GC tory farming for engagement, the other day she was endorsing a video of a mother forcing gender roles onto her daughter.
No. 1978595
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>>1978592samefag, I found the article. Now this wasn't written by a radical feminist, but it illustrates what I mean. There are certain leftists talking points used to work out an objectively patriarchal society or practices and making it seem 'woke.' They don't do this out of malevolence either, they're just that delusional
https://www.historyextra.com/period/medieval/real-aztecs-sacrifice-reputation-who-were-they/
>The idea that only men’s skulls would have been found on the skull rack comes from a common stereotype: we tend to assume that war is a ‘male’ occupation, and violence a ‘male’ practice. And Tenochtitlan was a city structured to serve the demands of a military life in both practical and symbolic terms. All men (except slaves) were warriors, trained to fight and bound to military service. Central systems provided for training and conscription, and mythical histories framed the Aztecs as the chosen people of Huitzilopochtli, god of war, who was their patron. Male children were dedicated to a warrior destiny from birth, with miniature weapons pressed into their tiny hands on the day they were named.>Because of this military focus, Tenochtitlan has often been seen as highly patriarchal, dominated by war, which is presumed to be the domain of men. But though most soldiers were men, warfare and sacrifice were central to the way all Aztecs viewed the world. Mothers and warriors were seen as equivalent in Tenochtitlan. Women were also warriors, battling to “capture” a baby, heralded as soldiers returning from war having “taken to the shield”. This wasn’t just a metaphor: dying during childbirth earned privileges in the afterlife equivalent to dying in battle or on the sacrificial stone.Now, you can argue a lot with regards to cultural morality, but one thing you can't deny is that this was a warlike patriarchal society where only freeborn male warriors had any worth and women's only duty was to produce more warriors in their never-ending holy war for human sacrifices for the war god. But this author is so delusional with their beliefs that they are willing not only to argue that, but also claim that those women were had more freedom than European women.
No. 1978622
>>1978560She was the creator of some awful post where she revealed a bunch of "GC"-themed wedding dresses as imagined by AI and is anti-abortion, like most twitter GCs are nowadays(such radical feminism!). Aside from that, she hasn't done anything too milky as far as I know.
>>1978595Idk how any self-respecting woman can accept the notion that her worth comes from between her legs while a man's comes from his actions. It's barely a step above calling us holes.
No. 1978834
>>1978595I dont see the problem with this. This is literally Sparta 2.0. And Sparta was rather gender equal for its times, so the conclusion isnt anything unrealistic. Not to mention the fact that equating the glory of giving birth to a child to a glory of winning in battle and equating mothers with soldiers is a very ancient and persistant tradition.
>>1978622Lol. As if being a meat shield is an "action". I am not even talking about the fact that mothers definitely do more than just give birth. You are subconsciously misogynisctic for valuing the former over latter.
Btw can all incels itt get the rope already
No. 1979107
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One issue that is undeniable is that many radfems have now basically defaulted to believing in conspiracy theories. Now we all understand where it comes from, but just like fascists and Nazis are using the current Gaza conflict to spread their ideology, a lot of young radfems have are falling under the influence of bad faith actors. I'm seeing young and old radfems, retweet from actual fascists and far-RWers such as Jake Shields, CensoredMen, Anastasia Maria, Sam Parker, Jackson Hinkle.
No. 1979153
>>1979148Exactly my point.
>>1979139I’m not saying it’s sensible, I’m saying it’s why. The rightoid moids posture themselves as protectors at the very least, which we all know is full of shit but some of them can make it borderline convincing, whereas the left shrugs and says “you’re on your own white feminist cunt! We are giving the rapists restorative justice, we are letting the cross dressers in the rape crisis centres, we are encouraging uncapped immigration of people who aren’t used to women having rights and you just have to suck it up and deal with it. If you feel disempowered perhaps try sex work?”
Most radfems are forced to adopt a somewhat centrist viewpoint. We love restorative justice, but some people are beyond it. We love immigration and religious freedom, but we need to protect women and girls’ fundamental rights to equality and dignity. We can’t let criminals come streaming into the country when the prisons are full, but we want women and girls overseas to be able to seek shelter in our countries. Sex workers are human beings that deserve protection, but sex work is not work.
No. 1979223
>>1979153>The rightoid moids posture themselves as protectors at the very least, which we all know is full of shit but some of them can make it borderline convincing, whereas the left shrugs and says “you’re on your own white feminist cunt! We are giving the rapists restorative justice, we are letting the cross dressers in the rape crisis centres, we are encouraging uncapped immigration of people who aren’t used to women having rights and you just have to suck it up and deal with it. If you feel disempowered perhaps try sex work?”And RWers strive(and in some cases, succeed in) banning abortion, contraception, and no-fault divorce. They're vocal about considering women to be less than men and that our only utility is as breeder maids–look at the "gender critical" move Ladyballers, where the main character tells his young daughter who wants to be a boy that men
are better than women at sports, music, art, and science, but that's okay because she can be a mommy one day. Made by the DailyWire moids whom GCs slobber over, no less.
I understand becoming disillusioned with the left, but falling into rightoid hands is just pathetic. I have no sympathy for women stupid enough to follow this path, not when it leads to actual harm like Roe being overturned.
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>>1979128>>1979153My issue isn't just aligning with the mainstream right for certain issues, that's something feminists have done in the past and I'm to an extent fine with.
There is a however huge difference between mainstream conservatives and far-right fascists, I don't care if you retweet or like some post by Fox News when it reports on some TIM, but my issue arises when I see so many young feminists retweeting and liking posts from picrel. It also concerns me when current mainstream voices of radical feminism like Jen Izaakson, argue that there's something to be gained from embracing the perspectives of extreme right-wingers.
No. 1979399
>>1979107This is one of the big reasons I left radfem circles, their conspiracy beliefs extend to denying science as well because every single thing is a big pharma conspiracy to them so you can't trust any medical professional because they've all been paid off so you need to buy this tree root and an amethyst pendant to heal what ails you.
>>1979139>>1979223For real though, anons keep saying how "the left hates women" because trannies and sex work but somehow can't explain how right wingers' open and very blatant misogyny completely dehumanizing women is more attractive. I'm sorry, but if I had to pick between tolerating a tranny prostitute and giving up abortion rights and same sex marriage I would grit my teeth and pick the former. When you put it into this perspective it becomes clear that the women who gravitate towards right wingers always had pickme traits from the start and no solidarity for other women since their reactionary asses can't think for one second why supporting Ron DeSantis might not be a good idea even if he wants to "own the troons".
>>1979375>Y-you're just like those TRAs if you don't want to give a voice to literal white supremacists!!!!111 we need to hear both sides out so stop being so insular!!! No. 1979410
>>1979352Anon, get off the internet and get some help. Seriously. You're that deep in your own delusions you're throwing around NAMBLA as anything to do with 'the left'.
The longer you spend in echo chambers chimping out about men in schizo ways, the worse it's gonna get.
No. 1979411
>>1979399This is the state of modern discourse, anon. People get obsessed with their enemies and try to shape their own lives as the opposite. It gets to the point where these tards could see a troon putting out a fire and decide to become serial arsonists. Until we can learn to start focussing on ourselves and our issues, this is all there is.
Half of it is probably moids astroturfing anyway.
No. 1979474
>>1979375This is why GCism is considered a right wing movement. Lie down with the dog, get fleas–interact with open and blatant white supremacists that clearly hate women, and you'll repulse the vast majority of them.
>>1979415>The continued alliance of the left with pedophile advocates is well documentedAnd right wingers actively keep child marriage legal and deny little girls raped by pedophiles abortions because pedo-rape-fetuses are sacred. Why focus on something that hasn't been a thing for decades over something that is happening right this very moment?
No. 1979483
>>1979432It's controversial because it is mental illness in full swing. You're literally psychotic over men and get mad when everyone else doesn't pander to your delusions. You're the reason radfem fell so far and so fast; you don't give a single solitary thought to the -fem part. You just have to have whatever the opposite of male is to you.
Some of us have bfs or husbands or even male friends, anon. And even then, we think about men less than you do.
So maybe it's finally time to admit that if literally everyone else is telling you you're wrong, then maybe you are in fact the problem.
The absolute brainrot allowed on here these days.
(infighting ) No. 1979583
>>1979564>>1979564Samefag sorry to continue to derail didn’t see the last post when I made previous one, but at recent as 2021 the gay rights org that didn’t cut ties w nambla till 1992 has been trying to advance an agenda to lower the age of consent. Not to mention nambla’s ties to ray Blanchard and his crew bc of sexology which are very disturbing, and they are figures frequently engaged with by radical feminists primarily.
https://feministlegal.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/Media-Release-on-CSW-and-ILGA-_28-Mar-2021-1.pdfalso while I’m here why are demonic dick goblins allowed to disparage women who hate males in radical feminism and to limit discussion and the most exciting development and analysis in radical feminism in years. I likely won’t contribute more to this discussion but where should it be happening on this site? Xx?
No. 1979599
>>1979472Mainstream where? Please point out where this is even being acknowledged (aside from biology journals). And separatism is like five people, come on.
>>1979483Relax, nobody’s coming to take your Nigel and Nigelings away just because I said their problems are biological and not social. It’s just something to keep in mind next time you post in the vent thread that you found his porn stash.
No. 1980230
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Jen Izaakson has gone full Tankie/Russia-Shill.
No. 1980354
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>>1980230she s even started talking in schizoid speak.
No. 1980578
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>>1980394tankie "feminists" would sell us all out if it meant the USA could be destroyed, that's their entire ideology.
(sage your non milk) No. 1980645
>>1980354Crowder is the quintessential RW divorced moid who calls his ex-bangmaid a parasite for not having a job and making him pay child support. Being a bisexual theater kid and failed comedian aside, there's nothing unusual about him at all. Every balding middle aged man who posts Trump memes on fb and has a Punisher decal on his pickup truck is basically indistinguishable from Crowder.
>>1980394>Jen is a MarxistAnd soon-to-be tradthot. The pipeline never fails.
No. 1980813
>>1980668She's completely against that and even talked about this in a Patreon episode regarding how much the second wave fucked up with the polilez shit.
>>1980718One thing I will say that I've gathered from from the episodes I've watched, is that she's basically a female man-whore, she sleeps around(subtly implies she cheats on her partners) but doesn't seem to have any intention of settling down.
No. 1980982
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I'm so glad she's gone, she is so repulsive to me. The screenshot is laughable to me, as this shows the radfem to tradthot pipeline strikes again. There is much to be said about the gatekeeping in radical feminism, but if anything, this pipeline does a spectacular job weeding out all the chronic pickmes and moid bootlickers. I don't understand how you can be so mad that some women are anti-family? So fucking what? I guess women aren't allowed to have their own belief systems that don't revolve around fucking men. She has been seething for months ever since she was being called out for being a conservative despite her literally being one, she needs to get over it. She has been taking shots at the meanie radfems for months just because they don't want right wingers in their movement. Maybe some people find it disheartening, but i see it as taking out the trash.
No. 1980986
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>>1980718>>1980960from what I've gathered, she would never attempt to transition to male because she knows it wouldn't truly make her a real male. However if she were given a magic to become an actual male, she would readily embrace it without hesitation, cause she clearly thinks men being "bros" is an ideal male nature.
No. 1981036
>>1980718You must not know many lesbians outside of radfeminism then, the "lesbian fuckboy" is a common archetype among lesbians.
You guys know you can be a lesbian and a bad person at the same time, right? Even if she's generally shitty to the women she sleeps with, she still exclusively sleeps with women.
No. 1981093
>>1980986she believes in some odd shit for sure. I think she also likes the attention she gets for saying potentially controversial stuff which… is very serious feminist of her.
If I'm not mistaken she once said that women don't get married for financial security, but that it's men who leech off of them instead typically now which she provided no citations for.
>>1980982>support abortions until birthunironically this. I think pregnancy is an abomination to begin with but considering the kind of harm that it causes to the female body including incontinence, preeclampsia and gestational diabetes, I think a woman has every right to abort anything that cannot survive without her body as a host. but I think thousands of years of patriarchy working to criminalize women's bodily autonomy has only really encouraged women to get pregnant and risk their health because their primary value was as broodmares and to bring more shitheads perpetuating inquality and bullshit in this world rather than prioritize themselves or their own health as is natural (imagine how many fewer atrocities and cruelties would have been committed if women had not been giving birth to men and had not invented agriculture which made it possible to feed all those nasty scrotes that ended up raping and killing eachother + women and girls).
honestly judging for my own life experience and observations, I think the fact that many if not most women got pregnant fairly young throughout history is behind population booms. when you have no life experience being pressured by the older people in the community and the culture into motherhood is much easier. I think the world itself wants women to be stupid and self-sabotaging and a lot of women will happily acquiesce. it's sickening
No. 1981101
>>1972572"but most Western women know that that is a death knell for success in romance"
lmao the projection. has she seen the statistics? in many countries with a growing obesity problem, it's women who are growing fatter at higher rates. in the same places it's just not encouraged or normalized to exercise as a woman. people who work with teenage girls and children have noticed that girls feel unsafe being out and about on their own, and especially any place that they know will have males in it. which limits their physical activity in a way. but no, the problem is that women internalize some sexist bullshit about where their value lies. I absolutely abhor diet culture and I've read a few good books on the subject. there's a reason why anorexia is not a problem in men, like not nowhere near as much as it is a problem in women. It's because women and girls are fucking internalizing and depriving themselves of shit as they have historically since the beginning of the patriarchy, probably. self-denial, self monitoring, internalization all of that shit makes you a suitable subordinate in an unequal dynamic like such as that between men and women. advertisements about food from 20 to 30 years ago were sexist as fuck. and they didn't come out of nowhere, they reflected cultural norms to some degree. anything targeting women prayed on guilt while ads featuring miids or made for a moid audience did not invoke guilt or shame.
Susan Bordo has spent her career exploring this shit and it is infuriating. I'm sick of women invoking the shame that women feel regarding weight. women are already the people who have drawn the short end of the stick by being born female in a garbage world and reinforcing all this bullshit regarding weight helps no one.
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>>1981101>there's a reason why anorexia is not a problem in menThe thing is men wouldn't even physically feel the effects of anorexia like women do. This is because men are designed by nature to be lean and can survive on less for months and still recover just fine. For instance during WW2, starved men managed to physically recover in months, while starved women had lifelong ailments.
No. 1981185
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>>1980982tbf plenty of other radfem were somewhat critical of this claim, like if she becomes a radfem then good for her. However, we have seen plenty of cases where both normal conservative and far-right women have mingled with radfems and adopted some ideas but still remain in the right-wing camp, so now hesitancy is a default assumption.
No. 1981441
>>1981135This is wrong in case of extreme starvation
>>1981191this anon is right. Women need less energy to maintain + higher bodyfat % is an advantage. Nature has her favorites.
No. 1981507
>>1980718I feel like this comment is a great example of how many radfems or radleaning women don't really see lesbians as real people. Lesbians can be rude and critical and catty about someone's appearance. Lesbians can bully other women based on the typical woman shit like weight and appearance. Lesbians can be extremely
toxic trump supporting assholes because as it turns out, lesbians are people. The lesbians you find online in radfem spaces who are projecting this pastoral idea of sisterhood and love ate very different from the average normie everyday lesbian who's just as capable of being an opp to other women as hettie bettie
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>>1980718I agree, this was her most recent post regarding woman who transitioned. It's specifically only about how less hot they've gotten and nothing else.
No. 1981620
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Hannah Berelli recently posted this, I'm genuinely worried she's gonna end up down the trad path at some point.
No. 1981695
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>>1981620I had to be sure, so I went through her likes. In between the anti-troon and pro-feminism posts, she's liked a few Christian posts.
>>1981628apparently.
No. 1981759
>>1981620>>1981695I feel like that with all the knowledge she has and how she supports her radfem stance with statistics or at least feminist theory, if she were to become trad, that would be completely out of character.
I'm a radfem but I am interested in the historical aspects of the Bible/theology from a purely anthropological standpoint, so I'd assume her interest in christianity is also more detached like this. Plus, it's just a nice holiday where you get to eat special treats, you don't really have to believe in anything to be happy about Easter celebrations.
Also, you don't necessarily have to be anti-religion to be radfem, though it helps a lot. Maybe she's just one of those bible cherry-pickers that make their own version of what christianity is.
No. 1981818
>>1981759I don’t know this lady so I’m not WK’ing but it’s entirely possible to be Christian and normal (ie not regressive/trad) - 85% of the Christians I know don’t take all of the misogyny into their faith just as evangelicals wear mixed fabrics and eat food made from crops that aren’t technically supposed to be grown in the same fields.
I’m not a christian but it ticks me off to see blanket anti religious sperging/ tinfoiling
No. 1981844
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>>1981818She's not a Christian, but she is interested in the history of Christianity. She also acknowledges that the movements that formed feminism had their roots in Christianity. She doesn't believe that all feminists have to be Christians either.
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what the actual fuck are her politics?
No. 1982640
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>>1982401>>1982400she also put "former radical feminist" in her twitter bio.
No. 1982722
>>1982498Sage for meta tinfoil. The top tweet is pretty sound, i genuinely don't understand what the issue is. I get a strange feeling whenever Jen/Hannah's tweets are posted because… they're not really milky? Not to WK but i really don't see it. Now i'm curious about why some nonas dislike them. Is it Jen's brash tone? Or because they criticize radical feminists sometimes? My ultimate tinfoil is that
they criticize the culty and 'lifestyle' tendencies of some radfems, which might make some LC users who like to call anyone a tradthot/cockbreath, ramble about male biological inferiority, feel very seen kek>>1981507Right
No. 1982887
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>>1965735>>1965736picrel gave me whiplash after reading these posts.
No. 1983034
>>1982887At least she isn't talking about the baby's shit anymore. Why do mothers always get so TMI about the secretions of them and their kids? It's so gross.
>>1983014Pregnancy causes a loss of grey matter that lasts at minimum 6 years and is potentially permanent. Apparently this doesn't affect IQ and is just to forcibly bond the woman to the infant to increase its chances of survival. Literal parasite tactics, like the mold that hijacks ant's brains
No. 1984549
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>i hate trannies so i will vote for a party that will fuck me over economically and thinks i deserve less rights than a man.
Why are these people so DUMB and why do i see a increase lately of radfems doing this, i even saw some who were okay with roe being overturned.
We need to donate braincells to these people.
No. 1984605
>>1984589Unfortunately they are women and its not a surprise that many radfems are being indoctrinated into becoming right-wing considering radfems started pandering to right wingers from the year 2018 and onwards.
Also alot of them hid their right-wing values and are only showing their true face now.
I remember me and radfemblack (who was a popular radfem) getting along and she would actually like alot of my posts and now years later i end up finding out that she is anti-abortion and cares about mens feelings, that sucks because i thought she was cool but i did find it weird how she only posted about hating trannys and rarely about anything else relating to feminism. I felt something wrong was in my gut and left the radfem circle in 2020 and never looked back and i hope you do too because you have good intentions but you're wasting those intentions on a movement that's being psyoped
No. 1984693
>>1984519Indoctrination is tough to get over. It's expected that about 50% of women will be childless in a few decades though, so there's still hope.
I just don't get why women have suffering-offs over how shitty being a mother is and how painful and degrading birth is. I've legit seen women cope-brag over how badly Nigel Jr. ripped them open and how little sleep and free time they get. If you're miserable, at least warn other women about the realities of motherhood/pregnancy instead of trying to reframe being a woman as a contest of who can endure the most abuse.
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This is cursed, radfemblack is a woman who once tweeted that she would fuck a horse if it consented, fantasised about FFM threesomes, fucked a moid and said it was overrated and in the recent year she was with the woman who had a meeting with JKR but instead was busy having threesome with a scrote so she didn't go, now RFB is defending some TRA libfem. Cursed radfem tone policing, put too much screenshots but the radfem fights with Celia Bedelia have been going on for a year and this is what they conceive. It gets worse and worse and now the horse fucker got involved. Dumb attention seeking losers.
No. 1984716
>>1984549I want to rip my fucking hair out when I see this, and it would be so easy to write it off as a moid psyop but seeing how the hidden board has an active "right wing feminist" thread and I've seen the radfem to tradfem pipeline in effect so many times out there in the real world that I know it's not. Every time some naive newly hatched radfem claims that "this literally never happens" I cringe inside, even the gendercrit movement is synonymous with conservative misogynist pickmes and homophobes now to the point they don't even attempt to hide it. I had heated discussions about this years ago when I tried to warn people from fraternizing with conservatives but they were so desperate to soapbox that grasping at the straws they let them in instead of having an open dialogue with people who were already feminists but maybe had their budding doubts regarding trannies. Now they dig their heels in elsewhere because no sane woman wants to be caught dead sucking conservacocks. The "gender-critical LGB" movement where I live actually fucks with Christian conservatives and people supporting it regularly throw tantrums about this being brought up because who cares if they're pro-life and pro-conversion therapy, we need to do away with those troons right now.
>>1984558Tranny tunnel vision is an accurate term to describe it. Yes, let's give up our rights to abortion and contraceptives, let's get rid of those LGB rights just as long as we stick it to those AGPs. Moids, tranny or not, will always find a way and the only trans people who would ever suffer the effects would be TIFs. But like lesbians, they're just "collateral damage" to a "good cause" because despite what these people claim they hate all gay people, including lesbians. None of them really care about misogyny making women troon out (because they're disgusting gender traitor NLOGs who deserve no sympathy) nor do they really care about other things that matter like TIMs getting to influence female-specific issues with no experiences, it's always down to that fucking bathroom debate I couldn't really give less of a fuck about at this point. The celebration and
victim shaming of literal children getting killed just for being trans-identified was the final breaking point.
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>>1984605Though not as common as troonism, I notice that certain radfems have a just extreme reaction when it comes to surrogacy. They literally devolve into biological essentialists, arguing that biological motherhood is far superior then adoption or raising a child, and it's fileting even to young lesbian feminists.
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>>1984987>>1985049About a year back, a French radical feminist group (which traces its origin back to the second wave and takes its name from the scum manifesto) held an anti-surrogacy protest at a film festival. The protest involved a pregnant woman, in an altered handmaidens style dress, running around with her bare stomach, screaming "stop selling us" and then getting escorted off. Regardless of your opinion on surrogacy or feminism, if you just removed some wording, this could easily have seemed like a right-wing protest about the sanctity of motherhood.
https://www.instagram.com/scum_officiel/reel/CsYRl86gfgD/ No. 1985323
>>1985296Which the woman is doing herself. It's not like her uterus is being "used" against her will. Anti-prostitution arguments rely on a lot of the same infantilization as anti-surrogacy ones, which is why they're easily dismissed despite
valid points.
>>1985297Third world surrogacy is a different deal(and way more exploitative off the bat). I was talking about how they discuss first world surrogacy, which itself still has loads of issues
>No woman with any empathy would want to subject another woman to that.Kek this is like JKR claiming women don't need other women to prop themselves us. We're not as shitty as men obviously, but women by and large have no issue with exploiting other women, especially if it gets them something they really want.
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>>1985217I don’t follow her but I always see her retarded posts, she’s a huge cow imo. Calls herself radfem while being in a relationship with a troon and calling herself a lesbian and also choosing to be a full service “sex worker” and posting shit like this, she’s a joke
No. 1985421
>>1985385I'm sympathetic to her because she's young and her troon ex was legit one of most sinister moids i've had the displeasure to 'meet' online.
But, she perfectly embodies the problem some radfems (if we can call her that) have with optics. They'll post teary-eyed confessions of their psychosexual problems, probably thinking it'll help women feel seen or because 'we're all sisters! (insert cute emoji)' but it can come across as bizarre and retarded to everyone who isn't a radfem. It's important to be relatable but it's like they have no filter and no sense of normalcy. Her first two tweets on picrel seem a tad dramatic but they still make sense to many women. But then she does the classic self-pitying 'i'm juuust a helpless widdle girl' feminine/BPD cliché which is the most embarrassing and counter-productive stance as a feminist
No. 1985522
>>1985379Which is why poors are filtered out in the US(again, not just for ethical reasons). Most surrogates have professional careers, nurse being the most common one iirc
>>1985368Not really, the surrogate is being paid for her time&suffering. It's the same deal why egg donors get $8-12k for a single retrieval but sperm donors get $100 and a slap on the back; one in way more involved than the other and takes much longer. Surrogates are getting their dues, though they do get skimped sometimes(I think Kanye and Kim gave their surrogate something like $45k, which is robbery). The baby she gestates is never hers to begin with, there's nothing to "sell".
(derailing) No. 1985612
>>1965274"the
terf to trad pipeline is so real"
nah, it isn't, tumblr troons just got a hold of the fact that a semi-prominent "radfem" from 2013-2018 tumblr who burned bridges in the community for being a genuine retard turned white nationalist and they haven't shut the fuck up since. she also happened to be diagnosed schizophrenic for whatever that's worth. I agree that most people who become online radfems do leave the space after a while but you need more than just five examples of people who were already maladjusted falling for retarded political opinions later on to state there's any sort of "pipeline" going on.
No. 1985765
>>1985612>nah, it isn'tIt absolutely is, to the point where normies see the word "radfem" and immediately associate it with conservatism, if not outright white nationalism. When you cozy up to rightwingers to get your message out since lefties don't want to platform you, you necessarily become associated with those rightwingers. It doesn't help that radfem "intellectuals" like Stock and organizations like WoLF express conservative viewpoints wrt abortion/gay marriage/contraception and take money from AIPAC and the Heritage Foundation.
It's 100% tradthot. Shoulda simped for Matt Walsh less.
No. 1985857
>>1985849Do members of leftist organizations cozy up to rightwing political apparatuses to gain funding? Do they go to AIPAC? Do they host neo-Nazis ate their rallies?
A few unstable morons flipping ideologies at the slightest pushback isn't a big deal, but that's not what we're talking about. All of this happens in mainstream radfem/GC activism.
No. 1985870
>>1985857You've only mentioned WoLF, one radfem organization that has less than 1,000 members, and you're not even describing a "pipeline", you're describing a political organization that has been given monetary donations from other political organizations with incredibly seedy and counterintuitive beliefs from the absolute grand majority of radfems.
>Do members of leftists organizations cozy up to rightwing political apparatuses to gain funding? Teaming up with members on the opposite side of the political spectrum to get your desired legislation/political activism achieved has been a thing for centuries, whether it includes monetary gain doesn't matter. Marjorie Taylor Greene called for a complete overhaul to the FBI because she felt as if it was "targeting" Trump, does that mean she's a radical leftist who believes it's unfairly targeted civil rights leaders? No.
>Do they host neonazis at their rallies? Several pro-Palestine rallies have had Nazis in their midst, and I'd argue that the majority of pro-Palestine activists are on the left.
No. 1985884
>>1985765> normies see the word "radfem" and immediately associate it with conservatismOnly in retarded ultra-woke countries like Scroteland, Cuckanada, Asstralia, etc. In my bumfuck latam country normies are generally conservative christians who think that "radical feminism" = libfems extemists.
>>1985857> Do members of leftist organizations cozy up to rightwing political apparatuses to gain funding?Organizations and politicians align themselves with "enemies" over common issues all the time. The fucking vp of my country used to be in the opposition.
No. 1985993
>>1985857nta but even as far back as the 1970, there were christian groups, far-right groups, feminist groups, and others that didn't "work together" but they shared common enemies such as pornography, sexualized and offensive media and again none of these groups truly worked together but they coincidentally had similar foes. That said I do believe you have some
valid concerns, there's a big difference between some a group of christian and feminist happening to protest a porn studio and accepting funding from a right-wing organisation or going to a major right-wing news show and of course ideologically it does have an impact on your movement and your self.
No. 1986028
>>1985857Yes, it's called politics. It used to be like this in the West, before Nazi became the go-to insult and before antifascism was trendy (because you had to get out of your bubble to fight fascists). Not every country is plagued by the Red vs. Blue mentality that's prevalent in the US and some Euro countries. Communists and hardline socialists in my country go to RW media all the time to reach normies who aren't fully invested in right-wind ideology, it's essential for a healthy movement. Radfems never reaching out to anyone but the most perfect lefties will only result in the formation of irrelevant cults
>>1985884>Scroteland, Cuckanada, Asstraliakekkkk
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>>1985765> normies see the word "radfem" and immediately associate it with conservatismHonestly, this is somewhat of an improvement from 7 years ago when normies saw the word “radfem” and thought “screaming woman with blue hair”.
No. 1986659
>>1986028>>1985884>>1985870When you ally yourself with Nazis, you are rightly considered to be Nazi-adjacent. When you work with groups that adamantly oppose women's rights like contraception, abortion, no fault divorce, or even the vote, you are admitting that you are willing to compromise on these things–which GCs/radfems clearly are, hence why the vast majority of women have no interest in the movement while conservatives glom onto it. You are helping them achieve their goals, which include the subjugation of women, to own the trannies. Brilliant move.
100% tradthot, as stated.
No. 1986942
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some insane shit kelly posted a few days ago. "the dignity of a ring" is some tradwife bullshit. i get what she's trying to say but she really doesn't deserve to get on a high horse here.
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Radfems and right wingers are "fellow travelers" in that they both are anti porn and anti troon. But it ends there because right wingers are into the whole trad thing and feminists are more progressive about womens roles.
Its a weird mix. i suppose communism use to be more socially conservative under stalin but also pro womens rights.
You just have to admit it, radfems are a wee bit on the social conservative side(derailing)
No. 1987306
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>>1987304It's more like this meme
No. 1987311
>>1987304>both are anti porn and anti troonThey both are those things for self serving reasons. You'll never get people to accept getting rid of all porn. I think the focus should be restricting what is accessible online and hardcore stuff be heavily regulated, preferably not exist. Conservatives view porn as a distraction to men, which it is, but they could care less about how it effects women. Same with troons. Conservatives mock and ridicule womens sports, when they pretend to care you know it's not
valid cause in the next breath they mock women. They hate troons cause they might get tricked into getting a boner seeing one. There is a reason 4channers spam troon porn and bbc porn all day. Men feel shame they can't control their porn use and resent and hate women and troons because of it.
Honestly despise conservatives because they have made these discussions impossible to have rationally because they are so extreme they immediately posion the well of any discussion and become a easy scapegoat for lefties to point at when you discuss real issues. "Oh you hate porn!? You're alt right!!"
https://www.mediamatters.org/media/4014634This clip is from the DW movie mocking trannies in sports, but constantly jabs at women. This scene perfectly encapsulates how they view women.
(derailing) No. 1987425
>>1987306Conservatives are forcing women to gestate non-viable pregnancies under threat of prosecution, protect the legality of child marriage, and want to make contraception and no fault divorce. If you find more of yourself in them than the annoying but ultimately harmless "woke" progressive crowd, you are effectively a right winger. Le radical left doesn't want to make you a second class citizen, right wingers do. Develop a sense of perspective.
>>1987311>This scene perfectly encapsulates how they view women.Exactly. Why would any self-respecting feminist work with people who think women are inferior breeding stock who exist to "tame men" and breed son? It's mind blowing.
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pain. agony, even(sage your shit)
No. 1987449
>>1987445and it's also 80% of this site posting as much about hating men than wanting to fuck them. I truly think you're an hypocrite if you're a radfem and still allow a man to fuck you.
i will now take my ban for infighting
No. 1987490
>>1987485When you make a claim like that, you need to back it up. If you make one like that to someone who
isn't sympathetic to your point of view, you just discredit yourself in their eyes. There have been well-documented rapes and other assaults already, so there's no reason to make up stories. Most people are already going to be against intact males in a women's prison, even lefties.
No. 1987601
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>unironically falling for the weed bad propaganda (sage your non milk)
No. 1987644
>>1987445Ever since TRAs coined that term and used it against men, women and children every conservative woman who disagrees w rads on everything but the "men can't be women" part have embraced it. Can't fault them for this but if you haven't familiarized yourself with the theory, aren't agreeing with he basic tenets of challenging female oppression, which includes coupling with men and marriage, both of which have consequences and can't be removed from the context of male dominance calling yourself rad is dumb.
I can claim to be Buddhist because I agree with some of it but if I'm also an atheist who objects to how it's actually practiced in the world then doing that is dumb. It's the same for edgelords and trolls calling themselves rad bc it's a placeholder comm for them right now.
No. 1987703
>>1987601Druggie cope.
>>1987622Tobacco/nicotine cigs have limited effects long term besides addiction and the risk of cancers and lung problems. Weed has all of this plus a high risk of developing all sorts of mental problems. The weed induced psychosis is definitely real. It doesn't happen to everyone, but it happens to many people. So I just don't understand why smoke something that's worse than normal cigarettes if we already know those suck a lot and weed has even more problems. Now, I'm not against the molecules that can be extracted from weed to create meds, just don't see the point in shilling it to healthy people as harmless when it's far from it.
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Are there any current modern feminist figures that you suspect aren't just partially right-wing but have actual far-right beliefs? I'm kind of suspicious of Donna Krasniqi. She's probably the most prominent feminist in Austria and the German-speaking communities. She's also the head of the austrian let Women speak movement, which basically made her the leader of all non-liberal feminists. Something about her always seemed off to me. She pulls antics like picrel, she's friends with Julia Long(the who appeared on Fox News to chat with Tucker Carlson), she has a son, a husband who was in the army and openly supports the local right-wing parties.
No. 1988257
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>>1987991Without a doubt Kathleen Stock, she's not just a conservative "GC feminist". she philosophically believes in certain natural roles for men for the functioning of civilization. Just recently she published an article sympathizing with moids who desire a "trad" lifestyle. she got some flat and promptly deleted it, but it was archived
https://web.archive.org/web/20240407223307/https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/6b5a20e6-1417-481a-8154-6bb648bf0dd0?shareToken=ed9f23e7ce16154394e9833118d005ce(sage your shit) No. 1988335
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some of Jen's recent likes are from two explicitly far-RW accounts.
No. 1988533
>>1988257Kathleen Stock also supports “reactionary feminists” (
cough conservatives) Louise Perry and Mary Harrington.
I used to think this was somewhat reasonable but as much as I hate porn and have concerns about gender identity, I’d rather be called a uterus bearer than ally with conservative morons who want me barefoot and pregnant
No. 1989395
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Terf to tradthot pipeline strikes again
No. 1989396
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>>1989395Also her posts are only about troons and nothing else when it comes to women rights. I just don't understand why these retarded GCers dont just admit that they only hate trannies instead of pretending to be feminist. Also the fact that actual radfems keep on aligning themselves with the alt-right also doesn't help paint a clear picture…
No. 1989400
>>1989395I'm sorry, but what is this. I'm GC too but I would never give up any of my rights just to spite trannies, that would be extremely stupid.
These "radfems" have tranny derangement syndrome.
No. 1989593
>>1989395She's freakishly retarded for not comprehending that women not having rights because of our gender class/status
is gender ideology.