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Tfw no friends that like kpop bc the girls that do in my area are weird koreaboos
>I love blackpink and red velvet. >Lisa is my bias 💗
The fandoms are weird as shit and creep out my Korean friends so no one talks about kpop in my group
after a girl stalked one of the guys for WEEKS after finding out he was Korean it’s now taboo and no one will mention it.
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ayyy thanks for giving me a place to sperg out OP
I've been casually into kpop for a few years now (I liked a few Orange Caramel, 2NE1, and SNSD songs in middle and high school), never really got into it beyond a superficial level (partially because I primarily listen to hard/alt rock but mostly because of the fans, honestly, I met a few too many weird and racist kpop fans and it put me off the whole thing). I've been big into BTS lately though. I liked a few of their songs casually but I didn't actually become a fan until I listened to Yoongi's mixtape. I appreciate how candid he is about his struggles with his mental health in the past and I find his near-arrogance about overcoming it inspiring. Self-love is important but I like thinking of overcoming emotional/mental struggles as kicking my own ass lol and he embodies that, in a way. He just seems like a cool dude lol. It's hard to say who my next favorite member is, I really like all their contributions and personalities.
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I follow BTS because they're a bunch a sweet and cute guys. I don't really like most their music thought, but I enjoy watching their MV, dancing, nice outfits, Vlives, etc…
I don't know if it's really a bias but I really like Taehyung of course he is very beautiful but he also seems to have a cool and easy going personality, I'm a bit jealous of his super pretty face lmao.
I'm looking forward to their face yourself album, I still think the title is kinda cringy…
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>>232799>I'm a bit jealous of his super pretty face lmao.
Me too, and I can't believe I'm actually jealous of a whole grown ass man but I have never seen a more ethereal looking person. He also just has such a unique, adorable personality. He's in that fine line between retarded and genius which makes him even more interesting. >>232795
Yoonji's mix tape and the songs he produced for BTS like "Tomorrow" is what drew me to them the most. He has that rare sincerity you don't often see in K-pop and his voice while delivering his lines is so…hot and intense? Especially when he goes hard like in his Cypher 4 verse
Jhope's mixtape was pretty neat too, you can definitely see RM's influence (the literary references) and Suga's(the savagery) but he still has his own unique 100% Hobi sound and I love it.
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>>232799>I follow BTS because they're a bunch a sweet and cute guys. I don't really like most their music though
I'm kind of the same way. Aside from the Cyphers and the rap line's mixtapes I barely listen to their music, I like them as personalities more than anything and enjoy stuff like Run BTS! more than their music (for the most part).>>232809>He's in that fine line between retarded and genius
LMAO accurate. He comes off as a bit slow to me —— not like "stupid" slow, just very unhurried and chill. Plus he's kind of a dork, it's very endearing.
Used to follow DBSK in 2008 as well, hi fellow oldanon. I'm not into Kpop idols anymore, but still into Korean music (indie and rap scene). With a special exception for BTS, to nobody's surprise.>>232809>He's in that fine line between retarded and genius which makes him even more interesting.
Couldn't have said it better. That guy inspired me so many characters, it's crazy.>>232795>I appreciate how candid he is about his struggles with his mental health in the past>>232809>Yoongi's mix tape and the songs he produced for BTS like "Tomorrow" is what drew me to them the most.
That was the big draw-in for me as well, along with their honesty, chemistry, generosity, talent and genuine passion for music. I really can't pick a favourite member, they all have something.
Not gonna mention all the aspects of Kpop I condemn because there's another thread for that, but as another anon said cringey fandoms and petty fanwars have always existed. Kpop used to be a big part of my life and it allowed me to bond with my still years and years later best friend, so I'm thankful for that at least.
they have a variety show and solo music, plus non-music endeavors, it's pretty reasonable to like them for reasons besides the music they release as a band. I get where you're coming from but you're basically just complaining about people being attracted to generally attractive people lol.>or are BTS armys just fucking nuts all the time
this is true though lol. I think it's a side-effect of BTS being managed by such a relatively small label. Early BTS fans knew they had to hype the fuck out of them or they'd pass under the radar and that fan culture remained and spread to new fans, despite the fact that they don't need to be hyped anymore. That's just my largely-uninformed hypothesis though.
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Armys can be tiring and imbecilic to the core. But BTS themselves are just seven guys who do stuff and are, seemingly, actually nice people and get along well. Their really young obsessive fandom sucks, but that’s no reason to rag on the group, they can’t control that.
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Does anyone know if they style themselves for red carpet appearances or if their stylist picks everything?
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I love LOONA (이달의 소녀). The story element is really engaging and I love how the producers work in references to art, religion, astronomy, etc, there are tons of Easter eggs in each video. I hope other Kpop projects go down this route.
I'm not a fan of the Loona cinematic universe, but man, I can't believe the amount of high quality music and videos coming out of a predebut stunt. I hope they gather a big enough fanbase to keep justifying their high level of output.
It's also been really cool to follow them since the very first solo.
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What did Oh My Girl deserve to get this? I think it's cute, but this does not feel like the right concept to follow up on the celestial, magic-realist Secret Garden.
Any other fandom is just as bad, but BTS has the international thing going, so you get a lot of 10-13 yo kids from the Philippines with access to youtube and no idea of appropriate behavior.
EXO has a shit ton of Thai fans and they used to be just as spammy in 2013-2015. BB was more local, so it was more KKT/Line spam or Japanese delulu “stans”.
I'm surprised Luna is getting another solo after how Free Somebody did but I'm glad she's having a comeback. >>238182
I don't think the full group is going to debut in May since there is still one more subunit + repackage left. I'm excited for their full debut too but I'm kind of anxious about it.
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I feel so bad for BTS. They really do have the lowest of the low among koreaboos in their fandom.
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BTS twitter is like a train wreck for me, I hate it but I can't seem to look away. Saw pic related floating around it recently and it gave me a giggle. Don't these bitches know that being homo is basically illegal in Korea?
I just wish I could get BTS news from twitter without it being slathered in army autism
HAHA FUCK I would’ve laughed it wasn’t so sad.
The worst thing imo is that BTS to me really do seem to be against shit like homophobia, sexism etc. but of course these idiots are never satisfied and have to push all this imaginary and- worst of all- plain racist shit to feel good about their own racism and feel self-important. They even feel the need to bring up shit like the skin color and gender/presumed sexuality of any westerner that interacts with them without it ever being even remotely relevant.
Imagine being incapable of ever seeing anything beyond skin color, gender and sexuality. Must be fucking miserable.
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why do fans have to project their political ideas onto kpop idols? pls i just want to look at pictures of jungkook without other fans tell me actual he hates me because i'm a straight, white bitch
these idols will never be the racists their loser stans want them to be
i have to ask myself how these sorts of people function in real life. they’re going to encounter white ppl whether they want to or not. or maybe they just never leave mommy’s basement
I know these are supposed to be jokes but does anyone actually talk like that? >>252153
They probably function like normal people do. The only reason they talk about hating white people is because it's the popular thing to do on stan twitter.
I like how these people always conveniently forget the time Jimin met Shawn Mendes and then yelled "WOW HE'S HANDSOME" as they were walking away lol.
I honestly think stuff like this is a reaction to the fact that a lot of black/brown BTS fans know that Korean's can be racist against people with darker skin tones and prefer "white foreigners", and they're so afraid of idols they like being racist that they flip it on its head. It's sad tbh.
There's that show Hello Counselor, there they frequently have darker skinned guests complaining just how hard they have it. E.g. "No, I'm not dirty", getting called shit, not being allowed to join a basketball team because being black would be an advantage,… Now imagine in "the most racist country of the world" (according to sjw) - the US- somebody wouldn't be allowed to jon a club because of their skin colour. All hell would break lose. But instead they try to tellt hemslves that all idols secretly want some chocolate goddess ass
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any idols you're shamefully attracted to? (I mean aside from any of them lmao)
I think Namjoon is cute. His weird egg face doesn't bother me, his smile is qt. he always looks cringey as hell in music videos because he tries too hard to look cool but still.
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Strangely attracted to this guy sometimes even though I know he looks weird, and even when he looks good he still looks like an overgrown baby like in pic related but it's oddly attractive. God help me.
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I like Jimin too. I said this in the last anti thread but he looks like a bratz doll made of mozzarella cheese yet somehow I'm into it lol
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yeah i agree, he's not great looking but his angry sounding rap style makes him a lil hot imo>>252302
oof jimin is super cute especially with his hair like that, love me some forehead.
lmao the frist time i watched this I heard >this is my dick
instead of pick. That weird handwritten p didn't help either.
who voiced V? He sounded kind of hot.
Yeah i heard it too lol.
>sounded kinda hot
no it sounded like a gay guy trying hard to sound straight imo
The visuals were nice tho
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I'm embarassed to be attracted to any idol tbh, Taehyung is especially feminine looking, but the worst thing is I'm pretty sure he's a misogynistic IRL. He's basically a pretty country boy dressed up in Gucci, but he can't hide his backward mentality.
He's just so pretty, I would love to have him as arm candy.
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I don't know a lot about Monsta X but Jooheon is really cute
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Well, I don't know if I'm ashamed exactly, but it's worrying the things I would do to bang G-Dragon. I especially love his tattoos, particularly because most of them are so trashy lmao
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I recently got into Taemin. I've been into boy groups but I guess with him I see more of an actual grown man, despite the feminine features. Plus from what I've seen so far he's an excellent dancer and I love the few songs I've heard.
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Jaejoong, because he's a dick and I stan TVXQ as 2
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He awkward looking when they debuted, but he grew up to be so handsome, I think bighit is pushing him to have a cooler persona to fit the pretty but arrogant
trope. Jin is supposed to be BTS's visual but I think they're giving this role to V now and they want him to act the part (Jin was also asked to act cool and cold when BTS debuted). He even joked about it not too long ago when he said "I thought I was the visual now?".
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I've been following Stray Kids casually (they're too young for me tbh) but Bang Chan is my age and I think he's cute. Plus he's Australian which is an accent I'm weak for lol.
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GDragon in BangBangBang with the glitter all over his face was honestly one of his peaks. Although I dug the Crooked blond aesthestic as well.
OT but I honestly feel so bad for Jin. Ever since debut people have always acted like him being a “super visual” was his only function within the group and now he can’t even have that. Plus he was originally trained to be an actor but he still hasn’t gotten a role while Tae got his first drama role years ago. People act like Jin’s only role within BTS is as mom and “pink princess uwu” and I just feel so bad for him.
Sage for cringe-y oppa rant lol
lol bitch im 22, im basically a crusty fossil to the rest of the fans
i got into kpop when BigBang and 2NE1 first got big and now i can't get out. i'm in it mostly for the music which i know makes me a special kind of retard, but i cant help it, i like the music lol
I'm 20, turning 21 in a few months. I was only very casually into kpop in high school (like, I knew Fantastic Baby and I AM THE BEST but couldn't name any members of BigBang or 2NE1) and was always more into hip-hop and alt/stoner rock so I dunno why I'm into kpop now. I think I'm just drawn to the fantasy/escapism aspect of it.
I wouldn't feel too bad as long as you aren't obnoxious about being a kpop fan and just treat it like any other interest. Plus BTS seems to attract a lot of older fans, especially because of songs like Spring Day.
yeah same same i knew about 2ne1 and Girl's G back then but didn't get really into it until recently. I'm glad i found the anti-kpop thread to stop me from becoming an obnoxious fan.
Songs like Moving on, Spring day, Pied Piper and 134340 or just their visuals/videos are what keep me stuck in the bts/kpop world
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Idk if ashamed is the right word but I feel guilty because I find Jeno from NCT Dream really, really attractive despite the fact he’s a literal baby who just turned 18. The Dreamies especially have this cutesy childlike theme going too which kind of makes it worse imo. It’s obviously nothing I would ever act upon and I do think he looks older than the rest of Dream but it still makes me feel iffy.
I feel especially weird because Doyoung is basically his mom and me and DY are the same age (96-liners)
24. BTS is coming to Germany in October and my boyfriend has expressed interest in going because he’s interested in their hip hop/EDM stuff. I’ll admit to showing it to him because I really liked Spring Day’s video.
…on the other side we’ll be the oldest there by far and IDK about all those weeaboo 13 year olds.
Should I even attempt to buy some tickets or is that super cringy at my age?
you go to a concert to appreciate the music and musicians and you said it yourself- you guys are into it for the music. 24 isn’t even that old. bts have fans way older than that.
if you want to go then go for it. don’t let a bunch of cringy koreaboos ruin an opportunity to see a band you like, especially if your bf is also interested.
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everyone’s hating on blackpink’s newly revealed lightstick but i find it adorable
never been interested in lightsticks but if i ever bought one it’d probably be this. i think it’s cute that the members helped design it too.
I scrolled past and stopped when this caught my eye. I have now stared at this for quite a bit
I was sure it was some weird shaped dildo/vibrator and pondered how is it meant to be used. Then I scrolled up and saw the thread title…
So what the fuck is that thing?
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it's a lightstick, fans take them to concerts. Different kpop groups have their own unique designs. For that design I think the pink hearts light up. sometimes they change color via bluetooth depending on the song being performed. it's like waving your lighter at a concert, but with more $$$
this made me lol
but yeah, some if not most lighsticks do look like really weird- or at least innovative- sex toys.
Thought this was me lol
I'm 22 and recently got into kpop again because of bts after dropping the whole kpop thing for 8 years, how do I leave again?
I'm 28, so I guess I win for now lol.
But in my defense, I liked k-pop since I was around 13 years old. Bless BoA. This was actually a new song when I got into it.
It's interesting how diverse k-pop fans became over the years. But I have to say that k-pop fans were also way more respectful and less cringy back when the community was smaller. I love BTS, but damn ARMYs are so obnoxious compared to how Cassies were back when TVXQ was at their legendary status.. I believe you when you say a lot of ARMYs are literal children. It sucks, because it makes me hesitant to call myself one too. So I feel your pain (even more so since I'm 10 years older). It's also weird when you're a teacher like me, and your students like the same k-pop groups.
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i guess it makes sense anon, since the fanbases are so much larger now. the larger they are, the more assholes are gonna be, so the assholes are gonna be more visible. plus BTS fans are the largely the same flavour as 1D fans from 4 years ago: young, immature, and way too defensive of their idols, whom they hero-worship. it's not a good recipe. but just like any other fandom, there are chill fans, they just tend to be quieter and therefore get less of the press.
i also love BTS, but i would never call myself an army lol.
speaking of which, who are everyone's "biases" for BTS? (and any other Kpop groups for that matter). I'm curious. mine is JK, but my "bias wrecker" is PJM
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Not invested enough so I don't have any bias, but I wish drunk V and Jk would double team me.
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It was Yoongi but I got bored of his attitude real fast so now it's Jungkook
I guess the ones I liked first were typical babby's first bias choice when it comes to BTS: V and JK, they just always catch my attention first in pics and videos. I just love me some mentally challenged hot boys, I guess. But Jimin's personality and demeanour have to be my favourite though, and for some reason I have dreams where he pops up for a few seconds? It's odd. Jin is funny and I like watching his mukbangs, Suga and RM are interesting, talented, funny and lowkey bestboys imo, like the backbone of the group. Jhope is fun to watch when he's not trying too hard, and I wish he'd bring back Hope on The Street. I could watch the boy dance for hours. I guess I don't really have a favourite, OT7 or nothing.>>252512
Ah, another old Cassie teacher here! Wonderful. Who was your favourite in TVXQ?
I do remember fandoms being different too, but not any less cringy or full of fights and drama. Back in the day the biggest fandoms got the same criticism as the bts fandom nowadays. ELFs and Cassies fought as much as armys and exols do now, vips acted as "we're too good for kpop, kings, we rule this" etc as armys do, and sones were as full of dumb young guys and creepy old uncles as onces. The amount of fan content being churned out is massive though, especially on twitter and youtube. But I guess that's because making the content has gotten easier.
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I'm indifferent to most of the BTS members, but I honestly like Jimin. His voice and face both seem to be pretty hit or miss with most people, but I think both are cute. His slim body is nice too. I also like that he at least pretends to be modest and doesn't act arrogant on camera.
I'm being a cool big sister by taking my "ARMY" little sister to see them live this fall after she begged, so I'm glad that I at least actually like one of the members and a couple of their songs.
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That's really cute anon, you're a great older sister. And Jimin's cute and his voice is angelic! I don't get the whole "he looks like a freak and can't sing" thing, is it just different tastes?
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I find Jimin ugly tbh, but he has his own charm and I get how some people might find him attractive.
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Same. I understand how he may not be everyone's taste, but the ones who go out of their way to insult him seem really unstable
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I’ve been on a break from BTS and the fandom for a while but my bias since day 1 was Tae and he remains on top. Beyond how insanely pretty he is and how soothing his voice is (when he’s not growling or screaming lol) there is just something so… ethereal about him? Not just his beauty but his entire demeanor, quirkiness and being really adorable and precious in literally everything he does (i think someone upthread described it as him threading the line between genius and retarded? lmao)… He’s been my muse for a long while and I’ve based so many characters off of him.
Also this is weird as hell but it’s like no matter how much sleazy fanservice he does he still seems really innocent and pure- like he doesn’t understand what the stuff he’s doing actually implies? He just seems so… clueless and off-stage he’s as far from all that as you could possibly get. Makes me wonder if he does it just because he thinks that’s how it’s supposed to be and what’s expected of him and just sort of detaches himself whenever he goes on stage? Probably 500% projection but still
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Wow anon, I went through a phase there I liked Jungkook and now I prefer Taehyung, but both of them together…wouldn't care if drunk or not lol
LMAO but yeah you’re right i need to get it together
thank fuck this shit is anonymous
(imma screenshot your reply just bc it made me laugh tho)
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I do like kpop and idols but I'm always reluctant to really get into it. So much of the industry revolves around personality and I always worry I'm going to end up putting time and money into someone who could end up being a prick. There's also the fact that it's a one-sided relationship and my bias doesn't even know I exist. It's probably not very healthy.
Has anyone here ever actually been to a BTS or any idol concert outside of Korea? I'd be interested to hear what it was like. I was looking at tickets for BTS Chicago concert but my goodness they are $$ expensive! $$>>252604
Not ashamed in the least!
i guess i shouldn't be ashamed in something that makes me happy, thanks >>252608>drowning in cute idol and fan pussy
Do you think idols really sleep with fans?
I'm curious if anyone else attempted to learn Korean when first getting into into kpop/kdramas? Not in a koreaboo way but in a genuinely interested way? I just want to know what they're talking about lol.
I learned quite a bit and recognize a lot of words/phrases, but I just don't find it useful learning a language i'm prob never going actually use. idk
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Another 30 year old here. I just only recently got into BTS, I won't say I am into Kpop because I only listen to BTS. I knew about them due to friends on Tumblr posting photos of them. I find Suga and Jin to be the most attractive to me.
I mean i know they're not pure and innocent but i thought they'd avoid sleeping with fans because it'd ruin their image. Isn't it what it's all about, the image? I don't believe a fan could keep a secret about sleeping with their oppa~
I can believe they'd fuck around with other idols since they're in the same position but then again idk idk
Yoongi's mixtape was what got me into BTS so I'd say he's my bias but I like JK a lot too, I feel like I can relate to him because he's my age and shares a lot of my interests (video games, music prod., video editing and filmmaking etc.) 10/10 would hang out with.
Also I really like Jin. Yeah he's probably the least talented but I like his attitude a lot, I feel like he's just generally a pretty mature person (and husband material lmao). Also as a college dropout I admire the fact that he was physically attending university while being an idol.
As for other groups, the only other group I've been listening to lately is Stray Kids, and I'd say everyone in their 3RACHA subunit is my bias. Especially Bang Chan.>>252596
there was an anon in the first anti thread who called him disgusting and unlovable because he has disordered eating and it made me feel so bad. it wasn't even on topic lol. Like I get thinking he's ugly or a bad singer or whatever, that's just personal taste, but making fun of people for their image issues is just fucked.
I wanna know how Dispatch has so much exclusive BTS content. They're basically the TMZ of Korea (though they pretend to be journalists). They were probably given exclusive rights in exchange for keeping a scandal under wraps and my nosy ass wants to know what it is.>>252659
I'd already studied Korean a little (my mom is into East Asian media and the language caught my eye/ear a few times because it seemed less intimidating than Chinese or Japanese) but I got more into it when I got into kpop. Tbh I don't know how people get really into kpop for years and never even learn to read hangul.
I relate to Jimin a lot, mostly because of the ED and low self steem.
In my best periods of time and when I feel comfortable with someone I act the same way he does (or the way he shows to us) but I don't most of the time and I behave and feel like a shitty person, so I take him as a role model since he is well-known for being extremely kind, charming, sympathetic, cheerful and supporting person. I just want to love people the same way Jimin seems to love his members and be loved the same way his fans love him
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Any EXO-Ls here? I'm pretty fond of them because they were the first kpop group I ever got into. I think at this point though most of them are pretty Over it (except Kai and manlet squad aka CBX who seem to actually enjoy being in music)
Pic related, I used to think the EXO inside jokes were hilarious, it was a simpler time
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I saw those anons as well. If you don't like someone, then fine, but it turned into a whole circlejerk about how ugly he was and if you don't agree then you're a dumb tweenage white knight. I just find it funny mozzarella anon actually likes Jimin lmao
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>>252750>I just find it funny mozzarella anon actually likes Jimin lmao
kek yeah I think I mentioned in my original post calling him mozzarella that I didn't find him ugly, just very weird-looking. He's a cute guy, he just happens to look like cheese.
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The anti thread anons were pretty harsh. At first i thought Jimin was a lil ugly but the way he presents himself is too adorable, he ended up being my bias.
Also JHope looks so feminine and pretty in this gif? I don't think he's as ugly as the other thread says he looks. He looks his best when he's not trying to hard to look all happy and hopefull uwu~ lol
I'm generally into weird/ugly guys irl, i like to be the pretty one… jk kek
It's really about personality that makes someone pretty/attractive to me, but it's kinda sad idols are acting for the most part
nah it's not the fact that he's famous. I've been attracted to uglier dudes in real life. it's just preference.>>252772
I posted it up thread but thanks for reminding me of its wretched existence.
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This reads like an incel-tier comment. DAE roasties only like men who are famous and have money? >>252756>he just happens to look like cheese
Top kek. Whenever he extends his philtrum he resembles a monkey imo. Still cute and 10/10
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I feel like the only one in this thread who doesn’t like boy Kpop groups. I love BlackPink, Twice and Girls Generation. I wish GG were more relevant again.
I’m so god damn excited for BlackPink’s comeback in June
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I can't really get down with current girl groups but I used to enjoy some SNSD, 2NE1, and Orange Caramel songs.
I am interested to see BlackPink's comeback though. Lisa is qt. I like her shoulders.
I really liked that last mini album Exo cbx put out. Playdate is really relaxing even though the lyrics are kinda corny. >>252779
I like girl groups a lot though I understand why some of the fanservice is a turn off to people. I'm excited for Blackpink's comeback too. Hopefully they get at least a mini album this time.
Nah, same. I used to follow 4minute and 2NE1 and I still love 2015+ Wonder Girls.
Damn, the Wonder Girls. They disbanded right when they were making so nice music with cool concepts (imho).
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Me too, but unironically. Nitpicking the fuck out of men's appearances and personalities for once is so much fun.
Nice! My bias was/still is Yunho. I haven't seen much drama from the comms I was in, but surely not everyone was innocent. I agree with you and >>252517
that it's because of the size of the fanbases, especially the western ones, so more obnoxious western fans at least. And just social media/youtube in general. Back in the days TVXQ was popular, youtube wasn't as mainstream as it is now, hence less k-pop spammers in the comment sections.
My BTS bias is also Jungkook btw. It's not helping that he's the youngest, but it's hard to choose differently. Suga (who luckily is a far less age gap) is a close second for me, though.
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We could have only one thread if the "antis" didn't lose their shit when another farmer say she want to shagg an idol.
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does anyone have any thoughts on this? personally i really don't get why it was necessary, the word may sound a bit like "nigga" but it doesnt mean it IS that word, it's a totally separate korean word. i just don't understand why they would do this. are they gonna censor every song they write from now on that has naega in it?
also some people on twitter are butthurt about korean news sites writing "nigger" out in their article, which is dumb because its for informational purposes…
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I love Twice so much even if their songs are all basically the same and tbh i fall for their fan service every time
Dahyun is my bias 100%
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Unpopular opinion but I also think jhope is cute/sexy, even if he isn't the most photogenic at times - that's something I definitely relate to myself. I don't think it has anything to do with his fame. Pretty sure if he was a regular dude I worked with or something I'd still feel the same.
I will admit though it's unfortunate that his plastic surgery is kinda obvious these days and looks a bit botched.
I'm kinda oblivious when it come to plastic surgery unless it's is super obvious or someone points it out.
What is it about Jhope? Is it a shaved jaw? I can't make my mind up about his nose since his sister has the same one.
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I think he got plastic surgery pre debut (as well as after)? In some pictures he looked incredibly fug, but on the most part he looked cute, especially during the 2 cool 4 skool era. Shame that he made himself look a ugly afterwards>high school jhope was a complete qt though
this is isnt nescessary at all I think they're scared that they might get attacked or something
Maybe they're not trying to be like bigbang and making 네게 which is pronuced nege in one of their songs and it very much sounds like the n word (at the :20 mark)
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Dahyun is so cute, I remember when I wasn't even into kpop I watched TT over and over again (I heard about it because I follow the choreographer) just for that part with her in the rabbit costume>>252908
I like jhope too, I definitely get why people would find him unattractive but I like how androgynous he looks. I have a weakness for dancers though.
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Boygroups are inconsequential to my kpop experience. Sure there's a few songs here or there that I like, but I basically only click with girl groups or soloists. OMG, LOONA, and EXID are the currently active groups I'd consider myself to be a fan of, but I actively follow new releases every week, so my Kpop library's pretty diverse in concept and groups.
Also my preference for women plays a big part.
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anybody noticed how bad Suga has gotten? they mentioned it on the anti thread and made fun of him, and I felt awful.
For years we have knew that he is a little more gloomy than his members, but lately he seems absent
Yeah he looks so thin and his rap feels so out of energy too. I'm guessing the Suran scandal must have somrthing to do with that partially.
Also, I might be biased since I dislike the new album, it seems he's much more excited about songs that are more agressive or more leaning to hip hop an this Come Back is like almost the oposite of that. There's not really a song that "feels more Suga" this time.
I hate this because I really likehis stuff when he actually puts in some effort.
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I've noticed Suga is smiling more often and it's hard to read. Whether he's genuinely happy or putting up a front. I do agree with the anti thread that he's a walking skelly. He's honestly setting himself up for failure, he said he wants to win a Grammy and be the most influential artist in the world.
>just noticed the skelly picture of him has the filename ending in Doot
to be honest i think speculating over how secretly miserable a member might be is just as cringey and weird as thinking theyre pure and innocent like >>252602
I don't know anything about super junior but they did the latin song theme a lil better imo
I really would've loved if BTS did 134340 or Paradise as a comeback stage instead of Anpanman and Airplane pt.2
Paradise could've had an interesting choreo/stage
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it's kinda sad, i remeber he was talking about how he wants to be thinner and have a smaller face on a vlive from a long while back. idk how old this pic is but he's always been really thin and small.
I'm surprised at how healthy Jimin looks in this pic, hasn't he always struggled with weight/image too?
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He look spoopy in candid too. >>253039
Jimin was called bagel
back then (baby face+ glamorous body). He looked healthy.
a lot of Army were freaking out over this pic and how hot they think he looks, but gosh i wish he'd get some help.
kinda ot but why do kpop fans say "rude" when an idol does something sexy/provocative? Just say they look fucking hot?
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Jimin had some great leg muscles back then as a result from his dance school days, this pic is from I need U era and he rocked the shorts.
Nowadays his muscular legs are gone and he looks spoopy just like Suga or even worse. Thank God this comeback Jimin looks unexpectedly better, I hope he doesn't starve himself again
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How come his face is long and square now? I'm not a fan of his and I don't find him particularly handsome but he used to look like a cute asian dude, he's ruining himself.
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yea he got one. his jaw used to have indents (from his predebut jaw/chin surgery) on them and they're not there at all anymore
compare this pic to >>253041>>253353
he always seems to be "chasing" something with his physical appearance. sad tbh
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yep compare those to pic related, which is very recent. He's turning himself into a goddamn dorito. I think he got the jaw shave because of his weight tbh, when he gains weight it goes right to his face and he's clearly insecure about it. I don't normally like nitpicking/overanalyzing idols' weight but the way he's constantly contradicting himself about food (saying "Oh I'm skinny because I forget to eat" or "I just don't enjoy eating" and then later saying stuff like "it's hard to diet, sometimes I get so hungry I can't sleep" or blatantly refusing food to avoid guilt over it later and calling himself overweight when he clearly isn't) is a red flag to me.
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He probably doesn't feel good about himself. I remember when everybody was talking about his tiny legs and how they were better than most girl idol's legs, he legit looked like he got a kick out of it.
oh yikes, i never even noticed>>253355
am i wrong to think his jaw looks fine now? Of course it doesn't look natural given we know how it used to look like but it looks okay? It's still sad that he's insecure about himself, it sucks. :/
I just watched a jaw reduction video because i was curious to see what some idols do their face and that shit looks painful af
It's weird to think about your fave idols having that stuff done >>253362
I checked to see the recovery period of a jaw shave and it's a 6 month recovery period, does bts ever get that long of a break? Could just be fillers?
Granted I don't know anything about ps, but I thought jaw shaves were extremely risky with a high chance of complications. BTS seems always busy to me. I can't imagine no one noticing major surgery. Being a rapper is literally his bread and butter idk why he would risk losing that.
It's probably mostly weight loss and I think his lazy sleepy persona is to hide that he's physically tired from being a skelly.
what on earth no one ITT has been shitting on women for PS or dieting, or really shitting on women at all. Except that one offhand comment about Lisa upthread. Also, I made some of the posts worrying about Suga and for the record it does
piss me off that he criticizes his and other members' weight on-camera when he knows his young fans might see it. I've already seen clips of him talking about dieting in those stupid "thinspo" compilations on youtube.
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Fat? I think he looks good/healthy? He's always wearing baggy clothes but he doesn't look fat at all.
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I think it's mainly an illusion, his long bangs only show his round lower face and he wear baggy clothes so his body look bigger, but Taehyung is always quite skinny. Pic related, his tiny arms.
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He seems healthy to me too. I guess he has some belly fat, but it doesn't seem to be anything outside of the realm of normal. I don't know how recent this pic is, but he still seems pretty far from fat to me.
Spoilered his belly area. Had to wade through a disgusting amount of fans talking about V's soft squishy baby boy tummy in order to find the pic, bleach please
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Tae has really nice eyebrows that fit his face, i know the stylists always hide his fivehead but he'd look really nice with short hair or those Jungkook bangs.>>253446>baby boy tummy
oof, army has to stop with the baby-ing especially when they're calling them rude/sexy afterwards
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Some cringe for y'all.
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I understand some of the thirst after these guys but…
>a little puppy eager to please his hyungs >gods favorite child whom he moulded from the silver light of the moon itself>bunny boy
anyone have soloist recommendations? Either pop or otherwise. So far I've liked Lim Kim, HA:TFELT, Sunmi, IU, and Dean.>>252836
this is great anon ty>>253598>With Jungkook especially, because he doesn’t even do that much fanservice in that direction
never forget that one time he called a fan "mommy" because she asked him to lol. that's the kind of image you never live down.
I really liked Zico’s mini album Television,
Genius and ANTI are my jams.
Kang Seung Yoon
These came to mind
Odd, 1of1, or Misconceptions of Us are probably the best places to start. Here's a couple of b-sides from each album that are my faveshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IB-6E-iIqu4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GSq8j0U6NYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtTPvfYkqhA
Taemin is a member of Shinee and has really good solo work as well, if you're interested!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcEyUNeZqmY
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anyone understand this recent trend of obsessively calling suga ‘lil meow meow’ on twitter? that shit’s completely exploded all over stan twitter it’s like a cult with antis and everything
Still feels a little weird without Jonghyun, but I liked the songs from this EP. They didn't fill his place, and the homages seemed well placed in the video. Definitely looking forward to the next one.
AOA's comeback was good, too. The aesthetic of the video was really lighthearted and fun. It felt like there'd be a hole without Choa but they filled the gaps pretty well.
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i love blackpink but jennie stans shitting 50 bricks the second someone mentions another member is annoying and embarrassing as hell. akbaes are trash
i feel like blinks are becoming the new ratmys and i’m not here for it. it’s sad a proficient group can’t peacefully exist without obsessive 5yos who can’t spell for shit flocking to it like flies
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The ticket sale for BTS in Berlin hasn't even started but it's already a mess. 2 days before the sale begins the pre-pre-sale gets cancelled and all the expensive tickets get even more expensive because of some fee that is only 10 euros in Amsterdam but 40 euros in Berlin, fml.
I'll try my best and shoot for a VIP ticket anyway, next friday GOT7 will be playing in Berlin (and that ticket sale was a mess, too.
Is someone else going/ trying to get their hands on a ticket?
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Suga's new face makes me uncomfortable…
he looks weird. he didnt need PS, he looked like a normal cute guy before. why does the kpop industry want to turn everyone into a weird plastic clone
also wtf is that hair
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>>255410>that exaggerated v-line
rip. there was nothing wrong with his face before.
Thank you so much, anon!
Unfortunately I couldn't get a ticket for BTS at all and am pretty disappointed but seeing Got7 next week is making me feel better.
I hope you'll have a blast seeing Got7 as well!
What do you think about their tour merch? It's simple enough so I think it's kind of cute (and not too cringy to wear on the street)
not really, I actually got into when I was older. I spent basically all of my teen years refusing to listen to anything that was seen as "uncool" among my friend group (so I basically only listened to various genres of rock music) and it's nice just listening to fun pop songs now. I mean I still like the bands I used to listen to but I cringe worse at the fact that I used to listen to NOTHING but Queen and Led Zeppelin when I was 15 and thought I was cool for doing so lol. It helps that my obnoxious weeb days are over and I'm self-aware about how cringe a lot of kpop is, so I don't really buy/wear merch or advertise that I like it.
I can't believe BTS is so popular either though, despite liking them. Their success is pretty surreal. The same types of girls who made fun of me for liking Japanese media in high school purely on the grounds that it wasn't in English are now """stanning""" a Korean group lol.
I still check out those K-netizen translations sites out of boredom, but I'm really not into K-pop as much now as I used to be when I younger. I think I've just outgrown it. I still like the sound of some K-pop songs, but I've really become more jaded by the industry's practices and don't get involved in fandom-related content at all nowadays.
I also cringe looking back about how much I ate up MBLAQ and U-KISS when they were relevant. I thought these boy bands were everything. It is a bit disappointing knowing that both groups are dead now and lots of the members spent years without much to gain from being idols in the end. Hell, GO from MBLAQ is now a full-time streamer and has admitted that he makes more from streaming so far than from his whole time in MBLAQ.
that’s because they’re the same brand of people. people who obsessively “like” something and others who obsessively hate on it are two sides of the same coin.
i feel like a lot of them are also from fandoms of less successful groups that are bitter over bts being put in a pedestal, armys being insufferable or just going out of their way for the sake of being every bit as obnoxious as the armys they claim to hate so much, or a combination thereof.
also let’s not forget the army vs exo-l feud raging on while bts and exo members are good friends lol
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I can kind of understand it tbh, BTS is massive right now and it seems like they're only going to get more popular. I don't get the rabid hate but it's definitely annoying being constantly reminded of a thing you find grating (though I do get the feeling some of them are bitter fans of other groups). It reminds me of when I was in high school and all my friends LOVED wrestling except for this one friend who just wasn't into it at all and she would get really angry any time we brought it up lol.>>255602>suga really didn’t strike me as someone who would go under the knife
I didn't either at first, but I think when he was forced to diet hardcore (I don't think he was ever fat but he was definitely heavier predebut) and get surgery the first time it snowballed into image issues resulting in more surgeries.
I know how you feel, except rather than Jeno it's Jisung.
I'm around Mark's age by the way. Same birth month and everything, lol
I know how you feel, except rather than Jeno it's Jisung.
I'm around Mark's age by the way. Same birth month and everything, lol
oooof i can strongly relate to this, I remember i only listened to "dad rock" through middle school/high school and thought i was the coolest bitch for being "different".
I'll listen to anything now from cringey kpop to cow mating calls as long as it's fun to listen to
I think he really was forced. For what I know, the company decided to create an idol group in the last minute under the name of BTS, and he, RM and other dudes were expecting a debut under said name but as a rap crew.
It was debuting or being jobless again, and they had already spent quite a lot of time waiting to debut under bighit.
you are wrong here.
I remember they uploaded a lot of covers and self-made songs predebut, the company made them do that as some type of tests to see if they skills were improving or nah, if they didn't you would get dumped anyways since bighit was broke and they would not provide any useless trainee the basics (food, lessons, a shitty apartment), also bighit had already started promoting them as a rap crew, alongside with J-hope and they even did some performances and appared on some tv channel and got overall got responde from the audience.
I'm not trying to make them seem "legitimate and less idol", but being as objetive as I can, so please inform yourself.
>>255663>no underground rapper undergoes training lul
that's literally what happened though. unless you mean that he ceased to be "underground" once he signed on as a trainee in which case you're correct lol. they were still going to be a rap group, just not an underground one. kind of like ROCKBOTTOM, most of whom are former trainees but definitely not an idol group.>>255661>>255665
you're right that they were originally a hip-hop group but yoongi had multiple opportunities to leave. iirc he considered leaving a couple times but BigHit wanted him on (probably because they'd sunk a lot of time and money into him already and were hoping it'd pay off) and kept giving him incentives, like paying for his college etc. unless BigHit was literally blackmailing or threatening him he was absolutely not "forced" to do anything. Agreeing to a lifestyle in which you're expected to look a certain way isn't being "forced". Pretty much the only way someone could be "forced" to be an idol is by their parents, and yoongi had already cut himself off from his.
also sage for samefag but the three of them looked way
better back then, Namjoon's dumb perm aside.
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Does anyone know any tutorials for male kpop makeup that doesn’t suck?
Kirara is the most similar I can think of, and she's a one man band, which is cool:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XseEQv1Ds4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8w9mS_zsS0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6AGJ1oXJRE
Hitchhiker (the MVs are fun):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufnnP4kaTjYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUXAWE5iL7I
Funnily enough, they're signed onto SM while IDIOTAPE is under YG (under a subsidiary, though).
Nada's Trippin' is more of that glitchy, earfuck sound as extreme as Kpop will allow:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E40qnzUiMj4
UZA and Neon Bunny are more of the progressive house/synth pop genre:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFamtpnEf0whttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWbK2DO5xKA
Also, Yaeji is another cool house producer, but she's pretty famous already and is an American acts, so I don't know if you'd count her.
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I'm so jealous of these Twice girls.
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i feel kind of bad bc i feel like i’m the only person on the planet who doesn’t find twice insanely pretty. most of them have looks that feel like hit-or-miss and some are downright wonky-faced to me. i think dahyun is the first kpop girl idol ever that i’ve found genuinely unfortunate-looking, except for maybe hyoyeon in the early years of snsd.
if you question it you’ll have a shit ton of onces pissing themselves in rage, though.
wtf did i just listen to? god this sounds so bad. and people in the comments saying>this proves that they dont lip sync, icons!
er yeah cause they sound terrible… and thats supposed to be a good thing?>>256243>jealous of girls who have teams of dozens of people with access to vast wealth to enforce their diet and exercise plans as well as style their hair, dress them, scrub them, powder them, make them up, every time they are ever seen in public
anon, youre part of the reason shit like the diet pill industry is worth millions
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You probably only see her fame, body and styling. Other than that her face is nothing special and she's got zero talent (and her popularity won't last for long…).
her face is cute to me in gifs/videos but looks weird in pics. All her features look stiff and kind of uncanny valley.>>256382
idk what they were thinking giving V such a forceful opening line like that…he doesn't have the vocal strength for it. Still haven't watched the whole thing because I always nope out like five seconds in lmao.
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A bit OT but I love how friendly they look, I'm tired of the angsty sexy faces western pop singers always pull, It feels like they take themselves soooo seriously (not saying that idols don't). I find a smiley face way more appealing.
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not a huge fan of the song but the choreography is fun
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same, i love when they actually look like theyre enjoying themselves during the choreo
i really liked gogo when i first heard it, watched the performance and thought it was just a silly song about spending all your money. but apparently its a deep commentary on people with no prospects spending money on meaningless things which tbh makes me like it less
Yes, we get it lol
You just have super low standards, anon.
isn't this supposed to the the kpop general thread?
the anti thread is here >>252094
i’m the first anon you replied to and like i said in my post, i feel bad about it but can’t help but question the people frothing at the mouth over them. i don’t dislike anyone in twice even if a lot of onces are insufferable. from what i’ve seen all of the members seem very sweet and genuine. appearance isn’t everything to me so i can like them as people even if i don’t like their looks.
most of them aren’t ugly but somewhat odd-looking, dahyun being the most prominent example. i just don’t understand why people screech about them being such a visual group when most of them are on the lower end of average when it comes to looks among kpop girl groups.
tzuyu and sana are gorgeous, though. nayeon is cute too but i can see why some people aren’t into her teeth.
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Stop replying to low quality bait.
> X is ugly!
> no! How can you say X is ugly!
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I think Lucas has a nice face, but it's squandered on being an idol. The soft, cutesy twink look is a bit unflattering on him.
don't know much else about him or NCT btw
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lucas is beyond gorgeous and has an adorkable personality.
pic related- his side-profile is insane
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yeah, I really hope they won't fuck with his face anymore…
Did he had something done to his upper lips? Like a lip lift? It's so rare to have a upper lip thicker than the bottom one.
But he's super cute, he reminds me a bit of Minho who I think is the most handsome idol ever.
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>>256483>But he's super cute, he reminds me a bit of Minho who I think is the most handsome idol ever.
a lot people think so! he’s insanely adorablehttps://www.kpopmap.com/netizens-called-nct-lucas-a-doppelganger-of-shinee-minho/
pic related isn’t the best pic of xuxi but you can really see how alike they are visually
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maybe, or maybe the angle just exaggerated it. something about him reminds me of young Keanu lol
I feel the same way about GoGo, I love the "depressing song disguised as a happy one" trope, but when it's a kpop song accompanied by a trendy choreo it's a little too much. I know the contrast with the trendy choreo probably strengthens the message for some people but for me it just bogs it down a little. Like the message is too genuinely relatable and depressing, I don't wanna watch rich people dancing to it lmao.>>256423
wow I guess I have to start listening to NCT now
wow he's pretty gorgeous
i wonder how he'll age
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tbh Mina and Tzuyu are the prettiest of the group, they don't look too extra or plastic-ey
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I swear this is my last lucas post, sorry for the spam kek. still think he should just be a model or something.>>256566
As long as they don't turn him into a dorito, I think he'll age pretty nicely.
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Speaking about Minho, he seriously has the most perfect proportion ever, I don't think he's all that tall but he is like 70% legs and his face is so small it makes him look taller. Rm who?
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>>256570>>256572>tbh Mina and Tzuyu are the prettiest of the group
Nah, Tzuyu maybe but not Mina. Sana’s way prettier. There’s something really odd about Mina’s face to me; I think it has to do with her nose being kind of wide, her lips are really thin when she smiles and her teeth+gums are quite big by comparison? There’s just something uncanny about it imo. I don’t think she’s ugly at all, just kind of odd-looking for a Kpop idol.
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Can I just say how much I adore AKMU?
I'm sad that they are currently unable to make music due to the Chanhyuk being in army.But Suhyun last year did an acting job and currently she is doing youtube, where she talks about diet, makeup, does covers, etc. She always emphasizes health and it was really good to see how she not only talked about her diet for the acting job, but actually filmed herself going to the gym. I think that youtube really fits her, since she is very charismatic and her smile is simply charming.
Plus once I was going through pann-choa posts and some girls posted about her, it seems that there are young girls who look up to her and they really appreciate the fact that she doesn't want double eyelid surgery nor nose surgery (if I'm not wrong she said about this in one interview) and are fascinated by her high self-esteem. It's calming to see that there are people who set a healthy example for younger audience.https://pann-choa.blogspot.com/2018/01/teens-stories-akmu-suhyun-is-cool-i.html
In older interviews Akmu talked about their childhood, it seems that they lived for some time abroad and their family was so poor that both siblings decided to choose home-schooling so they could make it easier financially for their parents.
All in all, I think that they both are very talented, her brother is extra-ordinary songwriter and Suhyun voice is very unique too!
Btw if anyone is interested in Suhyun channel is called MochiPeach, most of the videos has subtitles and the intro is adorable.
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I like Pristin V's song, they should keep the sub unit and ditch Pristin
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Are they seriously named Pristin V???
I like the song too but the MV looks awful. Apparently the song didn't do that well either.
It seems like a couple of companies have released title tracks that aren't super cute for recently. I can't tell if the trend is changing from cute songs or not. Though the only releases that have been successful are the ones from already popular groups. The only exception is that song from G-idle I think.
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I know it's mostly fan service but is Sana actually gay/bi? I wouldn't act like this if I were straight.
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Anyone else like KARD? I'm loving their music and can't wait until they tour North/South America again because I didn't know about them last time around!
Ok, I see, but is it really impossible for an idol to be gay and not just do it 100% for the fanservice? Not just for Twice but for other groups too.
Like Jimin, i can really see it.
I don't mean to sound like those twitter stans that calculate their fave's every movie to prove they're secretly fucking another member, but still.
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Pic related is Jimin with his ex-girlfriend in 2011 before debut. Not saying he can't be gay but it's very unlikely. Also, it almost sounds like you want that to be true in a fujo creepy way.
Sorry if i sounded like a creep lol
I was just curious
>>256873>Like Jimin, i can really see it
that's funny because I get fuckboy vibes from jimin lol. That's his job though. It's really impossible to tell who's gay in this industry unless they outright say it.
I love reading those IDOLS' SEXUALITIES ANALYZED!! posts for a laugh though, especially the ones clearly written by straight people.>this idol has stereotypically feminine mannerisms. a gay!>this idol is rough with his bandmates and has a tough guy image. clearly no gay.>this idol TOUCHED HER BANDMATE'S BUTT. GAY.
a lot of fans love him/find him attractive even though he's not the best looking
Same with Namjoon.
The way the fans act towards the both of them reminds me of a mother with an ugly child who'll say it's beautiful regardless because it's her child.
Which kinda ties in with the whole babying aspect?? oof
I think they're both cute but it's obnoxious when people are like OMG KINGS OF VISUALS, SLAY on even the most unflattering pics of them and get personally offended when people don't find them attractive despite the fact that they're pretty conventionally unattractive by kpop standards.
also Jhope's "sunshine concept" is annoying as fuck. People always say he's way more serious/lowkey off-camera and I feel like I'd prefer him that way. I don't think he likes being the "sunshine" one either lol.
i think they're pretty cute too but when i wanted to trade my tear namjoon photocard so many armys got triggered
and told me to keep it and that i should appreciate him and whatnot
i was so confused lol
he's just not my bias tf
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Anon are you joking? He’s obviously had work, angle or no. And the angle you’re talking about is much more extreme.
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This is a good thing, they can't look 12 forever. I agree that 2016 was a good year visually wise and their brandwhoring can die. Jungkook looks much better these days imo.>>258685
He sounds a lot better too not constantly making weird noises kek.
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That foundation makes him look so plastic but I love it.
But Taehyung looks more like a child right now than ever before. He looked like a man in 2016 (pic related), now he's back at toddler stage.
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I guess it all depends on styling because Billy Bob Taehyung looks just his age to me here. If anything I thought he resembled a little British kid with that blonde hair and dark eyebrows.
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Even with all that sm plastic surgery Wendy still looks weird af
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To each their own, I think his red hair looked fantastic. And the blonde hair too. The only color that doesn't look that great on him is black imo.
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Let's face it: his 'whitefashed' pics always look great, but in his natural state he looks basic af
wtf are they wearing lol
Jimin looks kinda ridiculous in that outfit with his fluffy blonde hair.
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I think he's an attractive dude even with a bare face a tan and some pimples, but he obviously looks better with heavy styling and some photoshop kek.
Jungkook also looked super cute in Hawaii with his chubby face and tanned skin.
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She definitely looked the prettiest at debut. I genuinely think she has one of the prettier faces in Red Velvet but I feel like they always give her bad makeup and styling that just doesn’t compliment her features very well. A lot of the time some stylists and makeup artists seem downright incompetent and it’s definitely a thing with most groups.
Thankfully she isn’t terribly botched like what they did to poor Yuta a while back. He’s recovered fairly nicely from the horrifying whatever-implants though, I think, which is a relief.
They seem to be aging fine to me but what do I know.
Suga and Jin will always be the most attractive of the members to me.
RM, V, Jimin, and Jhope aren't ugly to me and I can see why people are attracted to them.
And Jungkook is a handsome young man
I think they're aging fine, too. The only ones who look all that different to me are Taehyung and Yoongi and that's explained by them stress-eating and dieting respectively. And Namjoon. I think he got more work done, he looks different somehow.>>258708>Billy Bob Taehyung
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anyone else looking forward to BLACKPINK's album? I'm not sure how I feel about the snippets we've heard so far but it'll be nice getting new music from them. also Jisoo is qt.>>258884>Suga is the only reason I started listening to BTS in the first place.
lol me too, seems to be the case for a lot of people. I wasn't even interested in kpop before. I feel like people just fall for the whole "aloof depressed underground rapper" meme and that's what draws them to him and then eventually the group.
no ragrets though I love him.
I'm looking forward to it but i know it'll be just as generic as the first one. The kind of songs that are ok for a week but after that i can't stand listening to
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Any idea where I can buy kpop replica outfit? A farmer mentioned this Kim sai video and she bought them from taobao but didn’t give any links.
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>>258899>anyone else looking forward to BLACKPINK's album?
I’m excited as hell. Already preordered both the Black and Pink versions of the album. Partially because I wanna support them as much as possible since they’re the only girl group I seriously give a fuck about, partially because I love the way both versions look and think they’ll look nice on my shelf lol
Not excited but I'll check it out anyway, because Ive been waiting since Boombayah for them to do anything. I feel like BP had so much potential and so much hype must have already died down. Their aesthetics are always amazing tho.>>258954
Idk too much about him, but Suga strikes me as someone who's hard on the outside soft on the inside. He's a lil crybaby too,so I can see how that can attract people. Also twinkbait.
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Before ps nayeon looked like a big peak bird now her ps nose makes her look like a pig from the front view
people like the whole tsundere "cold and aloof but secretly soft and emotional" thing. It's kind of a meme anyway, he jokes around and acts goofy all the time.>>259117
the pre-PS nose is cute to me. It fits her face better, anyway.
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Yeah no, he definitely has lip fillers. Still cute though
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Yeah, the way he moves his lips sometimes makes it pretty clear they're fillers too, like he's not used to them being so big yet.
I still like them though.
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I think that kpop males are probably the ultimate fakeboi goals. They're like the perfect combination of anime bishounen and cute lesbian that they're all always striving for. They rarely display any typical unsavory male behaviors. They even get paid to act out fans' yaoi fantasies with other cute kpop men, and people praise them for acting feminine or doing girly things like wearing makeup. The gifts that they recieve from their fans are like the ultimate amazon wish list. Also, unlimited attention.
I won't lie though, I genuinely really like the plastic doll/man/woman/baby look that a lot of the kpop men have. They'll definitely look weird as hell when they age though.
Because they look like lip fillers and his pre debut pictures confirm it. Nose, lips and maybe jaw shave.
I mean, it's idols. They get PS all the time. It's not shocking
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He was always a cutie IMO, but his features do look different from predebut.
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I know it’s the lighting too but gosh :(
i can only imagine what he will start to look like as he ages>>259621
agree anon. i found it kinda weird how he barely reacted when ellen scared them….
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We lost a cute one. I think he didn't like that round thing sticking out at the back and also the slightly protuberance under his chin.
Too bad, that's what his charm and now that it's gone his face looks way too thin and feminine. I mean, he was already a twink but go off I guess
I know it's a joke but considering how much they are pandering to the US tumblr crowd I could see that happening.
RIP cute Suga
>>259685>I could see that happening.
I don't really see their holy schtick as pandering to the US tumblr crowd either, they are absolutely still pandering to young disillusioned Koreans (I mean, aside from all the typical kpop I wanna be your oppa shit)
I think it's genuinely bad and painful to listen to just from hearing how shrill their voices are. The girls struggle in general with how high pitched their singles are, and someone thought it was a bright idea to get them to reach child-MJ's key? >>259786
That section between 2:15-2:20 literally a cellphone being microwaved. I can't believe it made it past production and the sound engineers.
Cute MV, though, even if their MVs post-Likey have been blending together for me. And it's great that they're being hired for Japanese gigs.
I checked it out and I thought it was just okay. I wouldn't listen to it twice, kek. The vocals weren't strong, and honestly I would expect more from a professional release. The vocals were kinda YouTube cover-tier imo. I don't think the point of Twice is strong vocals though, just cute girls, and they're doing that pretty well! I also automatically have a soft spot for songs where a female vocalist addresses another girl. I get that it's a cover, it's not their choice and they probably have no idea what they're saying anyway, but it makes the song somewhat more enjoyable for me.
I'm not really a kpop listener, but I sometimes listen to things people link here and friends have showed me some songs. From the songs I've heard, the vocals are kind of weak in general. Is not singing very well the norm? Are there some strong vocalists out there?
I'm not sure how you define "strong" vocalists, but idols' with stronger singing abilities only really exhibit them on variety shows.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9nyeRfXCBohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GEhgt8AgkIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nQxkKtXwmkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpemiUTstWk
Kpop is the full package (cute girls/boys in cute clothes and cute dances), so vocals don't matter as much when it comes to the actual singles cause it's gonna sell whether or not you've got Whitney Houston levels of singing. There was one competitive show where the entire concept was "hey, let's get cute girls with no prior singing or dancing training or ability and turn them into a group", and honestly, the final group doesn't feel any different from another other girl group when it comes to stage performances.
Plus you have groups with very disparate amounts of singing skills, so the best you can do to equalize the difference is by reducing how much your better singers stand out.
Kpopalypse wrote a bit about the process used to produce and mix vocals in pop:>Common studio practice for recording girl groups is to get each girl into the studio individually to sing the entire song, and then mix and match the results to fit, also using ghost vocalists where needed. Obviously if all the girls sound more or less the same, this is a benefit, because it means that they can be blended together and substituted for each other easily. Equally good or equally bad doesn’t really matter as long as they’re equally equal.
Ddu-du Ddu-du is pretty good
Forever Young is the best track
Really sounds like filler
See U Later is just okay
It's just alright overall. The visuals are really nice though and I'm looking forward to seeing them perform.
The chorus on Really is catchy but Lisa's rap on that song is cringe-tier. Lisa in general is hit or miss for me. I like Jisoo's vocals especially on that song.
Not sure how I feel about DDDD.
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Bom's 2018 face
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Anyone following Produce48? So far Sakura is #1
Lee Hi is so good, I love her voice.
Check out Fuck Wit Us and Here Come The Regrets.
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Suga being super sentimental lately and the boys pointing it out plus all the selfies he's been posting and his recent sickly looks and very emo vibe are giving me the creeps. It's like he's dying soon or something.
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This is the most recent selfie on Twitter and there really isn't anything creepy about it. Unless there are more selfies on the fancafe
Favorite part about this interview
Ellen: okay everyone introduce yourselves
(one by one)
RM, V, Jh, Suga: introduce themselves by name
JK: "what's up!!!"
Jin, Jimin: introduce themselves by name
Forever young is my favourite too.
Here’s the live performance for it. Pretty lacklustre to be honest but their outfits are kinda cute
I'm confused by 'whatta bum bum'
Is it just meant to be a random noise like ddu du ddu du or boombayah or whatever? Find it uncomfortable because 'bum bum' is what toddlers say.
the video you linked has that bit listed in english as 'whatta bum bum' ??
what do you suppose it means in korean?
Oh yeah, the bit right at the end of the song. Sorry I thought anon was referring to a different part in the middle when they say ‘bomb bomb’
Fuck knows then. Probs some illuminati shit
hm? i thought only Red Velvet did the "Red" and the "Velvet" concept thing.
What's BP's "pink" concept then?
>>260157>'bum bum' is what toddlers say.
Where? Honestly asking because I've never heard that before, might just be an unfortunate regional interpretation.
It's most likely a throwback/reference to patois/reggae (See Sister Nancy's "Bam Bam" which is an oft-sampled/covered classic and also has the line "whatta bum bum") because that kind of music is trendy right now.>>260177>Probs some illuminati shit
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DDDD is a decent successor to Whistle IMO with more 2NE1 inspo but I do agree with anon who said this gen of girl groups is lackluster in comparison. Every lead BP single so far has the same structure of changing the song's flow very significantly during the bridge followed by a chorus lead by music with their voices as accents and they should really stop relying on that exact formula. I'm saying this as a huge BP fan.>>260366
As if it's your last is their pink concept, supposedly>>259966
My queen still lives! Too bad there's no turning back on her facial surgeries, she should've stopped in 2012 before she got nose and chin done again.>>259970
Ah if engsubs are out I'm going to watch right away. Thanks anon for reminding us this is out!
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‘ddu’ means black, ‘du’ means black, and ‘du-du’ is korean onomatopoeia for gun shots, hence the gun shot dance gestures and other use of gun imagery. pretty clever, imo.
i loved the scene with jisoo in the pink wig and the men with gun phones. it’s a pretty good jab at netizens who act like good fans when looking at the perfect image of an idol, then turn on them the second they slip up and aim their metaphorical guns (hate) at them while hiding behind anonymity.
The production and audio are kind of shitty, like maybe they couldn't afford a good producer (or any), but some parts are decent.
They do have potential though, imo.
this video looks like a low production cover for all the bts mvs lol
I liked the song tho, just wish the audio was better>>260564
the one @ 0:23 seems pretty qt imo
Sorry for a stupid question but why did Bts have very high quality debut videos/audio? (compared to this and other groups)
Is it a hit or miss thing with idol groups?
Do the music companies throw more money at the groups they think will succeed?
Their CEO had a good credit history and was also recognized for his production and writing skills, had connections and acquaintances in the industry too. So a lot of people trusted him and invested/lend out their money.
It's not that deep
Are any of the other member of 2ne1 doing anything besides CL? And hell, even CL has gone on musical silence.
boom boom isn't even their original song It's basically a cover of Mi Mi Mi
I actually like momoland's Same Same, but even that sounds like every other song they've put out so far
I wonder how long they'll stick with that sound now that they've gotten popular. I liked Same Same too >>261681
I like some of their songs but I like their softer songs more. I've never listened to anthem but it's nice
i hope their group career doesn't flop because of this
I guess Twice is the same way but i never get tired of them.
If their next song well they'll probably be like Exid where they get a couple more hits. >>261831
In the comments people are saying they didn't even finish get to finish their performance. I like the outfit Jisoo is wearing though.
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BTS got new hair colors. Whose idea was it to dye V's hair blonde but keep the mullet? I do honestly think he looks marginally better now, but come on. This hairstyle needs to go.
I don't think all of these look great, but I'm glad they're back to a bunch of different hair colors. It's a lot more eye catching than everyone having black/dark brown hair.
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I really hate it when people with darker hair bleach their hair blond and leave their eyebrows untouched. Everybody looks to me like pic related no matter how attracrive they are. It's just one of my pet peeves if people don't try to match their eyebrows
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Jimin looks nice, I think he looks better with light hair. I still love Tae's mullet but the blond looks really bad yeah. I like the bright-ass red on JK though lol if only because it's different, he always has dark hair.>>261894
Jin's blond looks fine so I have to assume they made Taehyung's hair brassy as fuck on purpose?
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NGL, Spring Day era was the peak for all of them. RM’a grey-pink hair, Jungkook’s honey blonde, Jimin’s light pink, etc. Only Jin’s bowlcut looked stupid.
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he looks like a fire engine.
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samefagging but damn they should have just dyed it purple
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Well he is an autistic country bumpkin, he might as well have the hairstyle to match.>>261917>Ponytail V
More like Joe Dirt V
>>260941>Are any of the other member of 2ne1 doing anything besides CL? And hell, even CL has gone on musical silence.
Minzy debuted as a soloist last year and Dara has been doing photoshoots, some acting and variety shows. >>261568
I can't blame their company for going the safe route by having them comeback with a similar sound and concept to Boomboom since they just had their first hit this year and seem to be from a unpopular company.>>261782
The companies are probably afraid if they change the group will flop. Didn't that kinda happen with Gfriend? They changed things up from their early songs (Glassbead, Me gusta tu, Navillera)and cameout with Fingertip and their popularity kinda took a hit.
Now if Momoland ends up with stable popularity like Twice in the future and are still releasing rehashes of Boomboom then that's a different story.
SM is really trying hard to promote NCT to internationally. I'm just hoping they start adding english subs to their MVs at some point. >>262031
I don't think Momoland would end up like Gfriend since Boom boom is the only song people really know from them while Gfriend had 3-4 songs that got popular that had a similar sound. I understand why Momoland's company is doing it though.
I genuinely love NCT and hope the best for them. As they get more popular I hope NCTzens don’t turn into the next EXO-Ls and ARMYs. They also give me more genuine vibes like SHINee rather than the fake vibes I get from a lot of SuJu and EXO members.
‘Yestoday’ is my favorite song by them thus far and I love the M/V. Doyoung’s vocals are gorgeous.
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haechan was so cute in this interview…
also, the thought of nct being pushed in the west rubs me the wrong way for some reason. wish they'd hit big in asia.
hopefully nct china works out.
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The cow hybrid jimin tweet and the memes that came out of it are solid comedy gold and I can't stop grinning every time I remember it, it's just so absurd.
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He's gonna bring the manbun back, calling it
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Every time I see that it reminds me of this
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Why do they want him to be female so bad?
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why do people like this exist
I fucking love the cow jimin tweet, I know it just makes BTS fans looking fucking nuts but it's hilarious to me>tfw no literal cow bf>>262912>>262914
these just disgust me though. who makes these?? Male fans? Confused lesbians?
Damn, I wish I looked this good on my ID pic.>>262914
Few have seen the face of god and survived.
god i hate that shit. ffs he's a normal human male not a """smol bean precious mochi baby""" aghhhhh anyone who has ever unironically used the word smol should have their internet access taken away for the sake of my blood pressure>>262912>>262914
i can see the funny side of these and laugh at how mentally deranged these fans are but its also disgusting lol
Honestly both were such a joy.
So out of the loop for band/kpop top of my head I can only think of CNBlue, and Day 6.
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I find it even creepier since pic related exists and it's the only instance afaik of him in a cow outfit.
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I love Yubin, but the new style is just… no. Feels so out of place on her. She looks her best with blonde straight hair like in Unpretty Rapstar.
Also, I believe the lesbian rumors 100%. Girl was legit around writing that she wanted a "bottom bitch" on the internet.
I agree though i still like Lady>>263473
I don't think it's bad but I probably won't listen to it again. I really liked IJWD. It was one of the songs that got me into kpop.
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I became a Shawol a week before Jonghyun's death, but it's still had a great toll on me. Even now, I still can't watch anything SHINee related without getting upset, which is somewhat annoying as the only shinee content I've watched was during my first week.
What fucks me up the most about his death though, is that during the time he was killing himself, me and my friend were joking around and laughing at SHINee videos, without being aware that one of the members were dying at the very same second. I don't think I'll ever forget that Sunday because of it
>>263743>me and my friend were joking around and laughing at SHINee videos, without being aware that one of the members were dying at the very same second.
there was no way you could have known
i was never a big shinee fan but i loved a few of their songs and now i cant listen to them the same way. i wont be listening to any of their comeback stuff either… just cant bring myself to
I understand why they are doing the comeback, and I think it's probably helping the band members through the rough times, but it is so tragic to me. It'll never be the same again. Idk why, I thought they would've disbanded.
Celebrity deaths usually don't affect me much, and I was never much a fan of SHINee (though I have gotten into them recently!) but something about his death really hurt. I guess because he just looked so sweet and happy in pictures/videos. Also his letter, like anon mentioned, was very relatable.
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found this a while ago browsing ao3 and your post reminded me of it. searched it up again just for you, anon.
fucked up enough for your liking?
oof, and i thought the daddy dom fanfics written by teens on wattpad were bad.
Do you think idols know about the shit some fans write?…
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some of them do. I think it was in the "Thanks to…" notes in You Never Walk Alone, but J-hope included the other members of BTS in his "Thanks to" and used the weird spelling of their names that kfans use (yoomgi,jwimin,etc.) to keep their fanfic from showing up in search results lol so it's safe to say they've read some fanfic. Also Jae from Day6 found some fanfic about himself on twitter and started contributing to it kek
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Uh… Sure Armys are creative…
i love/hate this song because i've been listening to it nonstop since it came out but i don't get tired of it.
I'm want the moment of "oh shit this song's kinda annoying" to come but it doesn't.
Kinda like with DNA i played it so much that i can't listen to it now without cringing
i’m like this with momoland’s latest song. i KNOW it’s basically just bboom bboom repackaged and that that song was plagiarized (which really really really rubs me the wrong way) but i still can’t stop listening to their new one. it’s too damn catchy.
i’ve lost count on how many times i’ve watched their mnet relay dance video.
She looks really pretty. Hopefully she's able to get more popularity now that Momoland is on the radar.>>265215
I feel the same way. I liked parts of Horololo by Exo-CBX but I hate the chorus so much.
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Horololo is such a joke. It's a lot like Lucifer or Firetruck in that it doesn't take itself too seriously. But Hey Mama and Blooming Day were okay imo and it's disappointing to see them come out with such a meh song for the memes.
OT but his face weirds me out. Either he overdid it with Meitu or something's gone horribly wrong during surgery.
I miss those shorts they had for their last promotion but those exposed navels are pretty rad.
Still pretty miffed that YG fucked up the Mixnine thing, only because it wasted rookie groups' time for absolutely nothing.
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Honestly I find both Yeonwoo and Jane to be prettier than Nancy. I don’t think Nancy is ugly by any means but there’s something so odd about her face- it’s like it’s way too small/narrow to fit her face but not in the ‘uwu small face’ way that the Korean ideal is all about but in a way that makes her head look oddly broad by comparison? Idk if I’m making any sense though
Pic related is Jane. I just find her so pretty for some reason- she kinda reminds me of Wendy but without the ridiculous jaw shave and incompetent stylists/makeup artists.
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There’s this Twitter poll from fifa asking what song they should play at the event and Fake Love is on there. Which is cool I’m all for it, but I saw this post and many alike and stuff like this irks me . How much more recognition do the armys think they need?BTS is already loved and supported by many people and have been promoted around the world so many times. It doesn’t matter if the other song wins? So what if they do play it? The people watching won’t be paying attention to what song they played they’re watching the game or whatever the fuck that event is
idk what I’m trying to get at but some armys piss me off
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The constant fighting between armys vs everyone else is so over the top. Blackpink ended up beating bts and psys record for the most views in 24 hours so there will probably be a lot more "pure blood armys".
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“i don’t care if we’re friends if u disagree w me unfollow!!” this is seriously preschool level smh
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of course the replies are equally histrionic.>inb4 charge ur phone
you can enjoy a group and still criticize the psychotic fans.
also, just like there are fangirls popping up in the anti thread from time to time, skeptics are inevitably gonna turn up in this thread too. so long as no-one derails too bad it should be fine.
I don't get this, is there actual proof for this. Not saying I don't believe it but the reverse happens as well; exo voting for bts.>>265664
Apparently bts WON the Instagram poll but no, armys have to keep whining about fakes and antis instead of celebrating their win, even though they claim they love bts so much. Imagine how embarrassed bts and exo must feel when they find out lol
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Same anon here. I also think Jane's pretty. I like that she's conventionally attractive but doesn't fall into some of the standards that are common for idols nowadays (egg-headed V-shaped face, tiny pointed nose, small upturned mouth). She reminds me of Mijoo from Loveleyz (check pic related).
I told myself I wasn't going to post in this thread but holy shit suga looks TRAGIC. I kept asking myself who the new member was.
also when ellen asks if rm has a gf and someone goes "me"…same tbh.
agreed. i like that she has such a low, kinda soul-esque voice too since it’s not too common among kpop girl singers. rosé has such a high-pitched, overly saccharine voice that sounds like a little girl but i think jisoo kind of counterbalances that in a way that makes them sound interesting together. i think they compliment each other very well.
i really wish jennie stick to rapping so they stop cutting jisoo’s lines short just to make room for jennie because jisoo is a way better singer while jennie is by far the best rapper of the group. i’d hesitate to even call jennie’s throaty shouting singing. it just sounds like she has trouble breathing and it stresses me out.
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Ahh, back when you couldn’t fathom anybody having a concert in the US, and if there was one it was always in Cali (and that basically started around 2011) Now you see all sorts of petitions for nugu groups to tour in the US, and we get all sorts of acts coming to olaces like texas. Hell, wanna one held a concert in the arena I had my high school graduation in. I couldnt have imaged that could have been a possibility back then listening to Super Junior or whatever in 2009. Sometimes I feel like a crazy old lady shaking her cane, “You kids have it so easy! We didnt get our artists on iTunes, and forget buying albums so easily on Amazon! If you didnt live near Koreatown, You had to go through sites like YesAsia and it took FIFTEEN DAYS for shipping.”
Juice was god-tier level of kekking. The whole mumble-rap was hilarious.
OT but I don't dislike this duet. His voice is super bland but for some reason it blends well with Jane Jang's.
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i'm probably biased since i almost only listen to older groups now, but to me the best thing about the old era (anywhere from until 2008 to 2012 depending on who you ask) was the variety shows and similar content. cassies had insane drama back then but the all about dbsk videos and the shows they were on made it easy to become a fan of someone because they gave each member a chance to shine. i feel like these days you hear the same stories on variety shows all the time and idols are more used to talking on things like v app than a tv show. i used to laugh so hard at dbsk varieties when jaejoong would start talking and a manager would step in to stop him because he was ruining the cold image they set for him.
i'm really glad stan twitter and current fan culture wasn't a thing in 2007 though. imagine the tweets from elfs and cassies and the fan wars between wonder girls and snsd. there's STILL very active yunjae shippers fighting online every week.
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Anybody remember that huge anti-snsd forum that would call members like Sunny whores because they were close to suju/dbsk members?
Oh god, that and those ‘kpop secrets’ livejournals
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what little i’ve seen of seventeen i like. the only reason i fear their popularity exploding is that carats seem to be some of the more peaceful kpop fandoms and it would suck for them to become the next ratmys
monsta x is nice and i’d love for them to get more recognition. kihyun gives me pretty strong suga vibes, both visually and personality-wise, though he lacks that pissy attitude that i’ve seen people complain about suga for. i think it’s pretty cute that the two of them are friends too lol
>>267053>I still hate him for disbanding WG
Me too, anon. Twice will never compare.
Anyone looking forward to Mamamoo's Red Moon? I liked the sound in Starry Night and I'm happy that they're doing something similar.
I like how they're always testing new sounds
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Why are anas always so batshit?
wtf is it with jimin fans and being absolutely off the wall unhinged? didnt he already get a death threat scare when they went to the US?>>267506
im sure its been reported many times
I'm pretty sure he gets death threats every time they come to America.
No wonder they look so done with their fans nowadays kek They probably regret their success.
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I doubt her tits are actually that big. Before fans said her tits were naturally big because she was bigger or the fattychan of the group. After all the starving and cosmetic surgery weightloss, her tits look even bigger
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Padding or implants?
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They cancelled one concert before because there was a twitter account making death threats and posting pictures of a gun.
I don't doubt it's just some nutty disappointed fangirl who can't stand the thought of her ~jiminie oppa~ having scandals or some shit. Googled the name a minute ago and it's already been posted all over IG and Amino, so I doubt it's something to worry about.
But man, talk about going off the rails. I was gonna ask whether the Beatles ever had this level of trouble with saesang fans but then I remembered John Lennon was actually
shot by a fan… lmao my b
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So, SM just announced three new SMRookies, all of them Chinese. Given NCT China’s debut is supposedly just around the corner, we’ll probably see them debut any second now. It’s obviously just speculation at this point but makes perfect sense.
SM was pushing the whole NCT18 thing with Empathy (since they were 18 members) so I think it’s a little odd they’re adding even more members in 2018 but I guess they need to increase the hype for NCT China so here we are.
Edited: Apparently some retard was running around spreading false information so I had to correct it. Xiaojun was born in ‘99, not ‘90.
my thoughts exactly lmao
i do think >>268898
is cute too. maybe not a bombshell like the other two but he looks really interesting and pretty adorable to me. also he’s apparently from macau which is cool, don’t think we have a lot of kpop idols from there
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I like him too. he looks a little bit like doyoung and some other idol whose name I can't remember…
Xiao jun is going to be a bias wrecker for a lot of people. Those eyebrows are amazing, he gives me K.K. slider vibes in a major way. I still hope Lucas will be the main visual though.
beginning is pretty cringe
but i like that they sampled the message by grand master flash (at least thats what it sounds like)
oh no a celebrity said something racist 4 years ago
it’s embarassing to see so many fans wasting energy “dragging” him and defending him.
Here's the explanation for the word in Korea: https://namu.wiki/w/%EA%B9%9C%EB%91%A5%EC%9D%B4
If you put it into google translate, here's what comes up:> Usually when Koreans write a suffix called -new (-둥이), they write positive meaning such as cuteness and finesse.
But the word 'nigger' (or ' nigger ') is an exception. The same is true of the English word "Negro", but in Korean, only the word "nigger" Stupid Let's be careful because certification that there is no liberalism can hit all kinds of bombings that become direct and spit from a vacancy.> Let's not say that people like black people , Southeast Asia, Southwest Asian people are niggers or niggers. After all, Rover, East Asian and Koreans are not even saying what they say.
There is a word for black people, 흑인.
Here, have a real translation.
"When most Koreans use the -둥이 suffix, it's usually meant for things small and cute, and is used in a positive connotation.But the word '깜둥이'(as well as '검둥이')is an exception.
It is similar to the English word 'Negro', but in Korean, the word 깜둥이 was used to mean people who are stupid or uneducated, so you need to be careful, since saying this in public can get your ass beat.
The reason for this is, the -둥이 suffix is only used for kids, REALLY little kids at that. You are treating them like a 3~4 year old based on their race and skincolor alone. And actually, the word -둥이 , even if it contains a positive connotation("cutie")if used towards mature adults that you aren't even close to, is really just the fucking worst."
thanks for the explanation anon.
it sounds kinda like the english word 'darkie' - yes its a cutesy, diminutive word, but that just adds to the insult because of the patronising effect.
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tfw the innuendos of the korean language are just too difficult for your stupid english brain to grasp
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What do y'all think of Imfact? I just discovered them recently and I've been enjoying their music, but they don't seem all that well known?
Thanks for recommending this, I really like it! Good taste anon.
excellent taste anons. their pre-accident music was good too (pretty pretty is still one of my favorite songs) but their later stuff is just so dreamy. both ashley and sojung's solo stuff was pretty meh to me. i liked sojungs song but got tired of it quickly.
you guys should check out some of yeseo's work. her stuff is really great imo.
I used to think she was just average but Jihyo really looks good with a tan. Too bad she probably won't keep it for a long time.>>274060
idk if he counts but probably jung jaewon. If not him then minhyun from w1 I guess.
on another note Loona is finally making their full debut soon. hopefully the title song isn't completely awful.
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i really just want to tie namjoon up and make him cry.
>>274172>having to divide a <4 minute long song between 12 different members
I do not envy whoever’s in charge of vocal arrangement. Chuu and Haseul are probably gonna hard carry for the weakest singers, too.
Pretty hyped, though, because Loona’s delivered way more than I had ever expected watching the teaser for the first girl.
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I want to dom Jungkook with Taehyung and make him cry. Then I'll have them double team me.
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Jaehyun or Lucas. I don’t see myself as dominant at all but I really want to tie them up and make them cry.
I also wouldn’t be opposed to eating Doyoung out.
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best boi with best thighs
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youre speaking my language anon
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So Hyuna and E'dawn have been dating for two years. Are you surprised or not?
When they denied it I thought it was just media play tbh. I'm surprised they admitted it. Does anyone else find it weird that members from 3 Cube groups + Hyuna all had dating rumors on the same day?
I knew it.
I just hope his fangirls don't harrass her
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your wish is my command anon
I expected a bit more. Still, I'm looking forward to their debut.
What's your favorite solo? I really like Egoist, new and Dancing in the Rain.
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I didn't know about them before the video, so I didn't expect anything, I liked the choreo and the song is decent.
Since you're here appreciating Jungkook, let me post Jungwoo just because I can.
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he's so fucking cute
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He's so beautiful>>279335
You know you like it anon
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New NCT teaser dropped today. At first I thought it was a new subunit announcement but based on what people are commenting it seems like a timeline? I still kinda think it's just a new subunit but it wouldn't surprise me if it is a timeline for the next releases. SM Cramming in 3 or more promotion cycles before the end of the year sounds like a nightmare though.
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Well, one will be a new sub unit. I think dream might release something on the 25th, then nct china will debut sometime between mid september and october, and after that 127 will release something.
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there was another (alleged) sm schedule leak yesterday (i think)
>4 more months until nct china
kms if true. why'd they have to tease it so early?
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Dream uploaded photo for latest comeback. I really hate the hair colors for almost everyone. Why so much yellow and orange? Love the dark hair on Mark though.
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I noticed how photoshopped Chenle was too yeah. Haechan looks off too. I think I hate Renjun's yellow hair the most, at least the others have some tones of brown or orange.
Nothing can save yellow hair, and it doesn't look good on him. He looks so much better with dark hair.
Or maybe I just like natural hair colors on idols.
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Renjun is so pretty ugh. I hate whoever gave him that brassy mustard blonde hair. Hope it fades to something at least marginally better.
He looked really nice during We Young era with sandy blonde hair imo. Jeno looked nice platinum blonde too.
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Is it bad that I liked Mark with this hairstyle? It was so cute and original. At least for the promotion, not sure how it looked in a casual day lol
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Me fucking too. It was honestly one of my favorite hairstyles he's ever had.
TY has a baby mullet right now and I think I hate it. Don't like the color either, he looks better with unnatural colors or black imo.
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I got into NCT during Boss era but even having seen all the hairstyles/colors he’s had before (and now after) that I still think he looks the best with dark, blood red hair. Yes it’s Hot Topic MCR teen angst edgy but Taeyong’s overall look just screams that anyway so it fits perfectly imo lol.
Everyone looked amazing during Boss era. The styling was ridiculously nice too imo. I wonder if they kicked out their old stylist.
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He's probably the only idol that in my opinion could pull off pink hair. He looked the best in Cherry Bomb era.
Also, I hate to say this because I love Taeyong but is he looking weird to anyone else lately? I think he did something to his chin, it looks larger and I hate it.
He has one of the most beautiful faces in my opinion, even if some people here found him odd or weird looking. I guess I'll have to prepare myself for him to RUIN it completely.
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I haven’t really thought about it? I love Taeyong but for his personality, not his looks. I think he looks amazing in certain styling and when he does no-one compares but without that I find other members nicer to look at. Now that you mentioned it I won’t be able to not look for it lol.
Also while we’re still nutting over best styling for NCT members, Doyoung looked so amazing in the Chain MV. That perfectly mussed hair styling framed his face nicely; I wish he’d kept it forever. He looked like some kind of doll to me, as tacky as that sounds lol.
Agreed, the edgelord look suits him so much better. And he said he used to listen to mcr so that makes it even more fitting kek.>>281224
The pink is great on him too, it looked really adorable in vid related.
lotta /nctzens/ out today
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Doyoung confuses me greatly, I find him attractive in some shots and really odd looking in others. Maybe it's his smile, it's a bit wide.
I did notice he looked especially good on Chain MV. BUt I was more surprised with Mark & Haechan, damn.
Chain was a terrible song though, I hated the background noises particularly.
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i want to bully jaehyun (but in a sexy way)
It would probably be easy since he's hands down the cringiest nct member, even worse than Johnny. He oozes timid bitch energy too
still so pretty despite that <3
"I used to be the sweetest boy ever till I found out being the baddest boy was better."
LOL that's terrible.
Another member like Taeyong that looks ten times better when he's not acting all "sweet" and childish. He looked so hot in Firetruck dance with the black hair and harder demeanor.
Let us not speak of Firetruck era clothes.
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Haha I like Firetruck dance, but that part and the one where the members pick up WW and make him jump look odd and out of place with the other hard hitting moves.
Most of NCT dances have some really weird moves that would probably look really bad if only one member is doing them, but I think that's kind of what I like from their dances. They stand out with all the weird shit.
This part in Cherry bomb did make me burst out laughing though.
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Jungwoo's part in Boss always seemed funny to me, idk why.
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This dance move was exactly what I thought of when I read anons post lol it's so weird. He looks like he's advertising a used car sale.
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I find more funny the part after Mark and Taeyong's rap ends and they all jump like idiots. I think it's supposed to be all swag like, but Doyoung and Jungwoo crack me up lol.
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If we're going to talk about bad dances, I really don't like Monsta X's dance for Jealousy. It's not terrible, but I just find some moves weird (shoelace tying part) and hate the styling sooo much.
And for some reason I get annoyed at this part with Hyungwon, it's cringy. If Taeyong really suits pink hair, he's the complete oposite. I really dislike that hair and outfit on him. He was so cute on the Hero mv what happened?
Maybe, I don't really know anything.>>281327
That looks awkward, what are they even doing?>>281332
It's not bad but I don't really get the part in Seventeen's Clap choreo (starting from 3:50), I like it up until that and then it gets annoyingly sexual.
Lol THAT's sexual? Rotating your hips for 5 seconds? Quite a label for such a small part. If we're talking about annoying "sexy" moves I would nominate The Eve. I don't get why so many fan girls losed their minds with that dance, it was meh.
I think from Seventeen CLAP's choreo is the one I dislike the most yeah, I also can't help but compare S.Coups part to Taemin's in MOVE. It feels really stolen, unless it's a known dance and I've never seen it somewhere else.
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I love the original tweet, it's cringey in a funny way.
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mark is disgraceful
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How can someone be so awkward even when tweeting? LOL the Hahaha on both tweets. I love him too, a complete dork.
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jin's part in mic drop seems weird and unnecessary tbh
Jin is usually unnecesary lol. I don't hate him but he really seems disconnected from the rest of the group and his parts always stand out to me in the wrong way.
You can tell the dude didn't want to be a singer/idol whatever from the start and just went along with it. I hope they give him actor roles and he can branch out.
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oh god, also this. i don't mind him that much either, but… eh
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Why are all the Taeyong, Taeyang whatever so fine? Damn… He looked good on the Now or Never MV too.
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Moonwalking looked better in MV yeah, but I still liked it. Also if Chani ever changes his nose I'll be super dissapointed, I love larger noses. Not like Rowoon, the wax figure. He looks so plastic nowadays, especially with the makeup in this comeback, so shiny.
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agreed anon. taeyang is still the best boy imo. i'm glad to see another sf9 fan though, since o sole mio they're title tracks have been really good. i cant decide if now or never or mamma mia is my favorite.
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Mamma mia got stuck in my head so much more, but I like both quite a bit. Taeyang in that suit dance practice looks so goood.
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Kind of random but did anyone else think Taeyang was Japanese at first? I don't know why, maybe because he reminds me of Yamamoto Yusuke, of dude's a lot more pretty.
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SMRookies updated their Twitter and in addition to being extremely annoyed at the fact that Hendery was hiding half his face behind a mug so I still don’t have a proper pic of what he looks like rn because he looks different in every single fucking picture I see, I’m sincerely sorry to the visual line. Hendery and Xiaojun have insane profiles. I’m sorry Taeyong. Only Lucc stands up to them now.
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Was hendery the other cantonese one? His eyes are similar to xuxi's. Like him the most of the three, xiaojun is way twiggier than I thought he'd be.
But speaking of xuxi, I'm so excited about him being on LoTJ. He's gotten a LOT of work considering he only debuted like 6 months ago and doesn't fucking speak korean lmao. He'll be on knowing bros tomorrow too.
Yeh, he’s from Macau. I’m the opposite because I was actually hoping Hendery would be twiggier.. hopefully it’s just an oversized shirt/tee combo. I’m so weak for smol twiggy twinks with big doe eyes. From his ~official~ SMR pic he looks like Doyoung’s his momma and Kyuhyun’s his daddy so he’d basically be Doe-Eye Jesus if he really looks like that lol.
I’ve never watch LoTJ before but if Xuxi’s in it fuck yeah I’m gonna watch. Do they have the full episodes on YouTube or is there anywhere else you need to watch it?
Wow they are REALLY cute. Hendery is ten times more good looking that his first picture, I though I was going to like xiaojun more, but now I'm not so sure. Yang looks like baby Taeil too.
I wish NCT stopped adding members though, it's interesting but it's getting super crowded. Also, I'm comflicted by the fact that new rookies are so young and I'm older lol. Stop making me feel like a creep kpop!
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I feel like Yan An from Pentagon is so underrated, I'm glad he's gaining some recognition through that Chinese show.
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Give him a few years for his face to look more grown up and he'll be even hotter. I think more underrated is Shin Won, I don't see much people talking about his looks but I really like his face, especially his eyes, kind of cat like. I was drawn to him on the Runaway MV.
Honestly, all visuals on Pentagon.
I usually watch it here http://kshowonline.com/search/Law%20of%20the%20jungle
Don't remember when it's gonna air though. He just got back from filming the other day so probably not too soon.
>I’m so weak for smol twiggy twinks with big doe eyes
I love them too (though I do prefer doe eyed chads with pretty lips like xuxi, my ult) but xj has sharper facial features. Guys like him look better athletic/lean rather than super twiggy to me.
ah thanks, hopefully we get to see it soon.
>but xj has sharper facial features. Guys like him look better athletic/lean rather than super twiggy to me.
yeah, i do think xiaojun will look the best lean/toned. i just think hendery would look really cute/pretty as a smol twiggy twink bc he has those doe eyes + his facial features are quite soft, whereas with xiaojun his features are sharp and refined but distinctly masculine.
TL;DR xuxi is a doe-eyed chad, xj looks like a chad in the making and hendery looks like a doe-eyed twink
i want them to debut so bad but we’ve already had the nct 2018 yearbook + the fact that they’ve been pushing the 18 concept so hard so we prob won’t see them debut until next year even though nct china is set to debut this year. :(
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If the leak was true, nct china will be in December… I doubt they care enough about the whole 18 thing to bar the rookies from debuting with them at that point. If they do, maybe they'll push it to January 2019. Or they'll get thrown in the sm dungeon/get moved to nct deadweight until a future nct china comeback… rip
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Cute, but I wish Chenle's hair was green like how it looked in the preview. Still not really sold on anyone's hair color except Mark.
Johnny finally has the dark hair again, but it's not black :( I don't think Johnny will ever look as good as he did during cherry bomb era again
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Apparently xiaojun is a manlet a la ten kek. Has he grown since this video or is he really this short?
now i’m sad. i was hoping he’d be a chad. guess that makes him a chadlet?
please please please tell me hendery and yangyang are twinklets in hendery’s predebut pics with his girl squad he’s basically the same height as them
also when was this?
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while i don’t think he’s overrated he’s pretty much renjun’s only competition for tiniest member of ntitty. renjun who, may i remind you —
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He's like 5'2". I think it's cute, but I agree that he's pretty overrated. There are some
interesting things about his music, but they're watered down by that boring troye sivan shit. Baby don't stop was great though.>>286461
Ohhhh, wasn't irreplaceable baby the hidden trainee who was super young? It would make sense for him to be that tiny.
i doubt he’s that short. in your pic he’s standing behind xuxi who’s a six-foot-something titan.
in that group performance where ten was dancing with blackpink’s lisa they were about the same height (maybe he was a few cm shorter) and she’s 5’6”.
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5'2" might've been an exaggeration, but still. Here he is next to mark and winwin.
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I know people have joked about SM idols being clones of each other for years but the little bit of cassiopeia in me that never died melts a bit with NCT. I don't actually always see that much of Jaejoong in Taeyong but there's also Jaehyun literally being called Jung Yunho. Even when I was a diehard cassie I was only at all attracted to Jaejoong, Yunho and Yoochun (no comment now) so being really into so many members of a group is a new feeling. They have some really great dancers and vocalists so I hope they get to show that off well but they really are one of the best groups visually imo
They’ve been wanting a group like that for years now tho super junior was supposed to have the same concept with graduating members but they pussied out because the fan support was too strong for the members.
SM wants their own morning musume so bad
more dudes means less focus on my favorite, though.
then again i suppose i wouldn't mind it if sm didn't shoehorn taeyong and markus into everything.
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I'm the anon that mentioned Taeyong was looking off lately. I just saw this picture, what the hell I may actually cry. Why touch his face? Another big chin idol now. I loved his face and now I'm so so sad…
Am I the only one? His jaw was a lot squarer before. I haven't seen other people talking about it.
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Compared to before.
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I looked for some more recent pictures and you may be right, or maybe he had fillers and it was swollen? But for a couple of months I did see him off. Especially on this photoshoot, his face looks so long there.
He definitely had something done and it may be better now. I really hope they don't fuck up with anyone's face, SM is worrying.
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He looks the same in this recent one (taken by a fansite last week). His mullet is out of control tho.
Well, even if he did something I'm happy it was not permanent. I guess I'm afraid of SM ruining his face since it happened with too many other idols already.
And yes, I'm too emotionally invested in this lol it's because he's my favorite from NCT sorry.
this is not what i was expecting. and i don't how to feel?
the song sounds really empty.
Yeah, I felt the same way about their last comeback (which I actually liked more, it was less generic). Lowkey wish they'd graduate the current dreamies and go back to songs like chewing gum. Seeing a boy group sing such cutesy stuff was a big part of why I liked dream.
Everyone looked very cute though and that's 80% of what I care about in NCT mvs at the end of the day. I follow them for their personality, looks, and dancing rather than the music. That goes double for dream now.
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The SMRookies have uploaded more pics today. It’s insane how beautiful they are.
In the order they were posted: Hendery, Xiaojun and Yangyang
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Hendery best boi
Anyone listen to the rest of NCT Dream's mini album yet? And did anyone else see these /fa/-teir pics of Johnny from the other day? He'd fit in to that meetup pic kek
it's from this lol. considering he LiVeD iN aMeRiCa fOr 4 yEaRs, maybe this was from his esl classes or something?
i think about it every time a thread gets derailed on /pt/ or /snow/ now
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jeffrey’s dark past is literally perfect for this entire site but if you’d post outside a kpop thread they’ll reeee at you for being a pesky kboo
kinda sad tbh, that part of the vid was made for /snow/ and /pt/
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here's this one too while i'm jeffposting
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What's the point of being into people who've had plastic surgery? It's like being attracted to a drawing; it's all fake. idgi
Plus this shit is reminiscent of how men go on about shooped pornstars and not-pornstars like Tila Tequila. Learn to love yourselves
This. What an idiot.>>292246
You sound like one of those naive people that think people that get plastic surgery automatically end up with the person looking like Jocelyn wilderstein.
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how do all my czennies feel abt xuxi’s latest hairstyle?
he looks more like minho than ever but idk i can’t quite get behind it… his hairstyle since debut has been so perfect i feel like this is a downgrade it’s just not up to par imo
This haircut definitely gives him strong Minho vibes but I don't think he pull off the short bangs as well. I also think the black is too harsh on him.
It's really amazing how similar their eye / nose area is.
It's not that bad, but I miss his old haircut. It was perfect.>>292908
Yeah, he's gonna be on real men 300
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He looked 20+ with longer hair and now he looks 5 lol. Lighter color suits him better.
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Doesn't help that he had the same haircut when he was 5.
And, uh… Ginger jungwoo, eh? Okay. I guess.
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It is nice to see him again… But he looks so much better with cool colors, black, or grey to me. I'm still not over pic related, this was such a look (aside from that awkward bit of grey near the roots)
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this ask is old as fuck but we’re on anon so i might as well dump this confession herei wanna press doyoung down and lick his nipples and bite/play with his chest
maybe this is just my bisexual fujo ass speaking idk i just have this thing for nice chests and his just looks so suckable n squeezable whenever he wears a tight top
like he’s toned but still v lean and twinky and his chest is just the perfect middle-ground if that makes sense idk
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My favorite in NCT will always be Taeyong, but I remember really liking Doyoung in the Seventh sense video. The little eyebrow raise had me like hello theeere. As well as his voice.
Did anyone else really like the styling of Seventh Sense? A lot of fans always highlight all styling prior to Boss as terrible, but I really liked it. The outfit Mark had with the yellow sleeves was so cute on him too. All the concept photos are so good and I actually have some of them as my Desktop background. http://fy-nct.com/teaserimg/the%207th%20sense
I would love to see the whole team with this style.
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Probably is that god awful jaw shave. He still looks really nice overall.
Yeah, he looks fine from certain angles. I like glasses on him, they balance his face out.
BTW the outfits in this performance are amazing, unlike suits that hike up (is this the right word?) and seem uncomfortable to dance in.>>293072
I like him in NCT but he seems like that kind of person who takes up all the space around them and draws attention to themselves no matter what, they're exhausting to be around irl, at least for me. That's what makes him a good entertainer though.
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The Xuxi/Mark size difference is seriously the cutest thing ever. I love how they’re the same age, Mark looks 5 but acts 25 and Xuxi looks 25 but acts 5 lmao.
On that note, does anyone on here ship members together / read slash? What do you ship?
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He reminds me of a Barbie doll. Not a Ken, a Barbie. His features are so insanely small and delicate save for his eyes it’s insane.
I think he’s aesthetically pleasing to look at but I can see why some people would be thrown off. It can look a little uncanny at times, pic related (spoiler bc it kinda freaked me out when I first saw it lol).
Jaehyun on the other hand looks like a whole Ken doll kek
this is a good list
i literally love all of them so mine is a total mess:> doyoung ♡♡♡♡♡> renjun/jeno ♡♡♡> winwin> jeffrey> mark / xuxi / nana
hyuck’s been wrecking me lately bc honestly 00-line is my fave line
other honorary mentions: johnyong, junguwu and kun. dream is the superior unit and are all pretty close in rank.
i also see myself being wrecked by hendrix and the other china newbies in the future.
yours is pretty good too. I was also going to put Junguwu and Kun in my hms, but I just haven't seen enough from them yet
>i also see myself being wrecked by hendrix and the other china newbies in the future.
me too for Hendery. not sure about the other two… really depends on what their personalities are like.
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i already have an unhealthy obsession with hendery and looking at his predebut/recent pics i’m so damn curious about him ahh
he looks like a different person in every single pic and while the other two have already created a bit of a persona for themselves in my eyes (xj being serious and eloquent; yy being heppy uwu) hendery’s notes and predebut pics clash with how deadpan he’s looked ever since he was revealed and i can’t wait to get to know himalso he has a girl squad how cute is that
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Any #Winwinsupremacists here? TBH I'm not even sure why he's my favorite, I wouldn't say he stands out in terms of talent/looks in the context of NCT or that he's an underrated gem or anything (personally I'm still waiting for Yuta to get his comeup), but something about him is incredibly endearing to me. Also I understand the feel of being in a foreign country and never understanding wtf is going on lol
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I didn't care for him at all when I first got into NCT..now he's my husbando.
Maybe it's how silly he can be? Without even trying to, I guess.
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i'm actually scrapping my entire bias list; i only care about farmer taeyong now
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oh god yes, Taeyong with glasses. I've never been so obsessed with someone's face before. To me he beats everyone in looks, even new China line; although Xiaojun has a very similar vibe to TY and I'm probably going to love him too.
Does anyone else ever think about their sexual preferences? I kind of hope TY's not gay. I would be happy for him if he was, but it kind of kills my attraction. Like for example, I really like Ten but I'm never attracted to him since I can tell he's gay, same with Winwin although I have my doubts sometimes about him. I hope this doesn't sound bad, I really have no problem with any of them being gay. And in theory you can still fantasize about them if they are, but it kind of ruins it to me. Anyone else feel the same or am I sounding like a huge asshole? Sorry in advance if I am. I would still love all of them, I will always like Taeyong mostly because I just find his stage presence incredible.
Haechan has been wrecking me too lately. He's real young, but after I saw this fancam of him I was like daaamn, especially with that move around 01:33. I also love his voice so much, it's so unique. I remember it stand out so much to me on Firetruck.
Also I agree that WinWin with glasses was top notch. Also in the Chain MV, he should use them more often.
Winko was my favorite even before I got into NCT. I still consider him one of my biases but Doyoung is my ult.>>293521
I personally love Taeyong but for his personality, I don’t find him the most good-looking. To me Xuxi, Winko, Nana and now Xiaojun are by far the most beautiful members. Jeffrey, Jeno, Renjun and (sometimes) Doyoung and Ten are also up there. I envision Henderson wrecking everyone in terms of visuals too judging by his killer side profile and looking like Ten’s goth sister.
Taeyong looks incredible sometimes but his features sometimes look really odd to me and these members look stunning literally all the time no matter how horrid the styling.
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this made me think of yall
i can’t stop snickering
I just preordered it this morning. I loved Youngjae's and Jinyoung's solos, and I'm happy Jackson doesn't seem to be forcing his voice this time around. I'm really looking forward to the rest of the songs.
I'm quite disappointed the photobook is random but I like all seven so I guess it's okay.
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I'm also a bit disappointed that the photobooks are random - I really hope I'll get Jinyoung's but I somehow always end up with Jackson's versions.
I hope you get the photobook you want, anon!
kek yw fam
with all the insane kpop cow fetish imagines/fanfics/fanart out there i feel like we should be able to make at least one banner
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I wouldn't be surprised if they printed more of one member than another tbh but wouldn't they have more of printing less of the popular ones so crazy fans but 20 albums to get the right photobook?
Maybe you can look up amino or some kpop/got7 communities and find someone to swap with!
Jackson is decently popular and I'm sure you would find someone!
Please post which version you got, worst case maybe some farmers can swap!
What really irks me is that the 'right' photobook never guarantees good photocards - with the Turbulence album I got the most awkward looking card of Yugyeom and nobody wants to take it off me, fml
Picture very related
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>tfw no creamy bf>>294137
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He looks like a prince or a fairy
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>>294456>His features give the same effect but are more refined and look far more natural and harmonic.
No wonder he's so pleasant to look at lol
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he really does look like a human, chinese version of ty. that said, I still prefer normal ty and his wonky face.
fuck, nct china's visuals are going to be insane
>>294466>fuck, nct china's visuals are going to be insane
tbh this will be the most visual nct unit by far and i’d argue they’ll be leaving most other boy groups behind in the dust
winwin and renjun are breathtaking, kun and chenle look super soft and squishable, yukhei and xiaojun are ridiculously handsome + the visuals of the century, hendery and yangyang are insanely pretty and soft-looking…
the best of everything really
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Agree, he really reminds me of TY too and he's beautiful, but TY's still best since I love how squarish his face is too.
Xiao has a very V line jaw, he's going to be veeery popular with koreans. I'm more thirsty for Hendery photos right now, his initial photo had me meh, but he looks super good on the other ones.
Also, bring back green hair Taeyong, ok thanks.
I'm curious too. How is this group going to look? Any ideas about vocal/rapper/dancer positions? I don't get rapper vibes from the Rookies, maybe Xiao? That would make comparisons with TY even bigger.
I don't see Ten being in the group. I always got a vibe from him that he prefers solo work, and he suits solo work a lot. Lucas I see as a better fit for 127, he looks a lot older than the other Chinese members. He would stand out so much, since other members are a lot shorter than him.
I imagine vocal Chenle, Renjun, and Kun. Dancer Winwin (hope he gets lines lol) and a rookie (maybe Yang?), and for rapper one or two of the new kids. What do you guys think?