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Honestly Rae deadass deserves to be put in the bad art thread.
Matter of fact, do you guys think we should have a thread on Rae??? Is she cowish enough?
I mean, I kind of agree with her here. A lot of "cringe" compilations are taking things from people who are obviously children and making fun of them. Like, yeah, this 13-year-old has shit art/animation with totally embarassing edgy OCs that are obvious knockoffs of other characters. of course they do, most 13yos do crap like that. That sort of shit though can make kids totally give up out of embarassment.
Mind you if you're an adult it's kind of free game. You're hopefully at that point mature enough that if someone makes fun of you for cringey art it's not going to deter you from making art or doing whatever it is you do.
disagree. some kids should
be turned off from that kind of stuff.
Kids don't need to be turned off from art. They need to learn how to take criticism and improve, sure, but not be so turned off they don't even want to try because they feel so put down and embarrassed.
Like, a kid who has trouble with math shouldn't be made fun as being cringe. They should be encouraged and helped. Come on dude.
Especially solarsands, that idiot can't draw to save his life.
Most of these channels just want to make money off other people's cringey art
It's like drama channels who talk about Youtube celebrities, imagine being so useless that everything you can do is orbit around other people's failures
inb4 Chloe Rose and friends say we do the same thing here
Kek not at all, haven’t been on that cursed website since 2009.
But anyway, this >>277995
Solarsans just picks on low hanging fruit because it’s easy to critique and effective in getting young artist’s attention and gaining views/revenue.
I totally agree. I genuinely enjoy watching actaully good (real) artist, but what kills me is their setup/audio/qaulity of the video in general. WhytManga,AlphansoDunn ect ect are examples of that to me at least. The bad editing and shit can really turn someone off from watching an otherwise good video.
I would add in, that alot of really good artist dont have enough content in general, half the time they will have 2-7 videos at maximum. But my theory is that they dont have time to focus all that energy into editing/setting up the video becuase they are actaully trying to improve their art work and skills. Versus morons like Rae,Kasey,Holly,Waffles,(Jazza oops) just throw out shitty art work with no depth or improvement. In order to compensate they have to make their videos sound/look decent to catch the viewers attention long enough. Also they have to have exceptional /not in the good way/ personalities and jump on bandwagons at any chance in order to stay relevant. People who actaully have skill dont feel the need to be fake and flashy because they are too focused on more important things.
It should be noted that many people on Youtube have tiny attention spans and most of these peoples fans are 10-16 year olds. And even dumbass 20 year olds, but regardless they usally dont have the maturity to sift through whos actaully good and whos faking it.
I agree with both
another thing I think that keeps people from viewing those videos is that the art can be intimidating. Watching someone draw the same dinsey girl over and over again is more comfortable for a new and young artist. Unlike seeing a highly skilled professional that is constantly improving.
I don't think you should feel bad about it. She seems like the person who wouldn't be able to handle critique. That's always the case with artists who always draw the same thing in the same style and never improve.
I honestly wonder how she isn't getting tired of her own drawings, they are seriously always the same. But yeah, social media fame I guess…
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Samefag but if you put a few drawings together you can really see how sameface-y they all are. I know it's a littly cherry-picking but just pay attention to the make-up like the tree dots under the eye, the lip and/or septum piercing and the earplugs.
If it's pretty it's boring, if it's ugly it's projecting, if it's realistic it's boring again
What do you really want
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Going through her portfolio she has some decently cute stuff but looking at her work as a whole makes a majority of her illustrations seem bland. She has a lot of inconsistencies with her anatomy, especially when drawing faces >>278433
She's definitely not a terrible artist, she just needs to work on her fundamentals more. Even if she kept the same style/subject matter her stuff would improve tenfold.
I don't think her biggest problem is her fundamentals. What bothers me the most about her is lack of creativity. Of course we should always be striving to improve our fundamentals, but it seems like this whole "fundamentals" ordeal has become sort of a parrot thing in these threads. She's not perfect, but she already manages to make some pictures that are pleasant to look at.
Her art just seems extremely one dimensional to me when it comes to subjects, but that seems to be a problem she has herself, her personality also seems pretty one dimensional. I know we can't really tell how someone is through the content they put up on the internet, but most people start being a little shy on Youtube and then branch out. She's still very monotone and uneventful.
is this the "decently cute" thing? she has the same fucking red nose freckled for no reason face as all the girls in >>278433
the biggest issue isn't the anatomy but more what >>278606
said. looking at the pic you posted, it's clear that she had
to put in extra details to make sure people knew that this was sailormoon. if you get rid of the hair, compact and luna's forehead decoration, you'd never guess that's what this was supposed to be. the worst thing is that it would be better and have more depth if this was just some random NEET OC girl.
also, nothing's interacting with eachother properly. anatomy aside, but the weirdest part is usagi's hair. the plate is floating under her hair and it just takes away the look of interaction in general. it's just weird and sloppy. coupled with sameface and bad anatomy it's all bad.
I follow her for the reviews, her purely art videos can get a little boring to me. I like the fact that she experiments, but at the same time some of the experiments are a bit too abstract for my own personal taste.
I don't think she really has to market herself if she doesn't want to, if being an artist is not a professional interest of hers, dealing with the side hassles of being a professional artist might just suck the fun out of it for her.
Yeah, her style is just not my cup of tea
But kudos to her for being able to juggle a channel with college. I can barely find time to draw lol
They all look so damn bored, kinda listless, and I think that really projects onto all her designs. She kind of looks the same way IRL or when she's speaking into the camera, it's kind of monotone. same girl. Same face. Same expression.
I'd like to see some stories from her, not just 'pretty witch girls'….but people like consistency and if there's anything you can't say she isn't, is consistent, and a lot of her followers like that I guess.
i meant that's the only
thing that makes her look like sailormoon in this picture.
Uh no? The school uniform is also a giveaway.
True that the artist has a sameface syndrome but you are really nitpicking the Sailor Moon drawing.
Of course if she drew her without her hair and uniform she would look like a random character or any other sailor (like Venus). The girls in SM suffer from sameface syndrome too.
I disagree that Luna and the compact are put there to make it clear it's Usagi as it's obvious from the way the character looks. They are just part of Usagi's world displayed in the picture.
I think this is a nice fanart though I've seen the concept a few times and agree that a pic with original character in this style would be interesting.
I also dislike artists just drawing pretty characters without deeper concept but this fanart is fine in my eyes.
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From the new waffles' video
Why do all her faces repulse me?
Honestly, this looks fine. Maybe it's not your taste but there's nothing actually wrong
I don't like him at all, I was just wondering if anyone here knows about him and what they think
Guess I forgot to write that
I found him recently too. His art's pretty. Pretty boring.
Just, girl's face with his little symbol on the cheek. Technically skilled but same thing over and over. I found his videos to be boring, but that's where I discovered him first, on yt. I don't think I'd be too invested in his IG, since it's just more of the same.
I'm honestly getting tired of the pretty girl portraits. This guy, Jacqueline, Danica, etc.
I don't see anything wrong with this one, I think it's just preference.
Sometimes I really want to see the art of people who talk shit about people like waffles, she's no loish but she's decent and seems to try to push herself.
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he got posted about in the last thread, and is now trying to sell nudes/porn in addition to terrible comics lmaooooo
Doesn't it get a lot of popularity among weebs because it's used on some mangas and stuff?
Also, it's partly because we have that tendency of wanting things people we look up to have, because it somehow makes us feel more connected to them. So if a lot of kids like Baylee, they might want to own the same supplies as she does to have one tangible thing in common with her.
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oh my god noooo
Rae is already full herself, this is only gonna make it worse.
She's posting that shout out vid everywhere lmao.
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""""Professional Artis""""" vs Youtube Makeup Artist
Yeah, also I feel like the fact that her actual art is kind of mediocre makes her feel like more of a kindred spirit to her fan base? Less intimidating but at the same time the expensive art supplies "legitimize" her to her young fan base and the combo of the two might make her success feel more attainable or something. She's good enough for kids to look up to but not too good to scare them away I guess.
That said alcohol markers are really fun to work with IMO, I enjoy them. Something satisfying about how even and "flat" they are. I want to try Gouache next.
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I don't think you're reaching anon, definitely checks out with a quick recreation
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I don't really know how to do the overlay thing but I tried
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The problem with these artists is that they only want to draw pretty/cute things, but doing that just makes them improve more slowly and it takes away artistic value from their work.
For example: you are trying to draw a pretty girl. In order to keep her looking pretty she has to be young, which means there won't be much detail (wrinkles) on her face and also you limit her expression (she has to have a neutral face so there won't be any wrinkles on her face or god forbid nasolabial folds), her pose, and the lighting (shadows all over the face are not cute!!) and then you end up with a boring generic drawing. But really a drawing of an ugly orc with his face wrinkled in anger and with lights and shadows playing on his face (which help portray volume) has so much more artistic value and is interesting to look at because its shows the artist's various skills. With a drawing of a pretty girl looking blankly at the camera/into the distance you show only knowledge of anatomy. If that.
There is a reason you rarely have pretty youthful models at life drawing classes. Also pic related is a drawing by Even Mehl Amundsen
As someone who used to draw, drawing and painting “pretty girls” is easier and faster. Especially for the YT artists, cause they need to pump up videos to stay relevant.
I honestly don’t like just drawing pretty girls, but it is the only thing I can do easily without effort. Sometimes I draw them to warm up for complicated drawings
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I wouldn't say it's easy for them just because young pretty girls don't have a lot of wrinkles and stuff. Part of why it's easy for them is simply because that's what they spend more time drawing. It's their comfort zone.
I used to find it easier to draw people I considered "ugly" because I didn't have to mind where I was putting things as much, meanwhile if I wanted to draw a perfectly pretty girl I had to be very careful about not having anything out of place.
Anywyas, the "problem" is not them only wanting to draw pretty things, it's them wanting to stay inside a small comfort zone of their borderline childish taste. And that's not even a problem, if they enjoy doing it and it fits their artistic needs. You can do much more sophisticated pieces of beautiful people, such as Karla Ortiz' piece I've added to my post.
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Samefag, but since one of the arguments was about the girls having a neutral face, just thought I'd add another example of a beautiful woman being more expressive.
Pretty girls sell well, if you're someone who sells your work. I have much more fun drawing "ugly" but I haven't worked up the balls to try selling any of that stuff yet. Ugly/cute is fun.>>280906
I was "semi large" (I guess??? Sort of?) before YT artists were as much of a thing. I was all over DA for years, sold a lot at cons, ect, before realizing I needed to take some time to seriously work on my art so I'm relearning from scratch.
The only life drawing I did had a slim pretty woman, I guess I was lucky. There was like one day with a guy lying down and showing off his balls but the other days were all the one pretty model.
It's more like middle-aged non-slim women probably are more likely to want the validation of being a life model
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I'd argue that it is a crutch because some of them rely on pretty things to produce pretty drawings. Even then some of them still fail. I believe that a good artist has the capacity to make any subject matter beautiful.
On a side note, I feel like some artists jump in to youtube too soon and get sucked in. It creates a situation where if they make it, they start to neglect their artistic development or worse think they're better than they are. It really is a shame. Art is not easy and it definitely is a humbling experience.
Karla Ortiz is mai waifu
Also kinda off topic but which platform would you recommend sharing art on? I joined a facebook group for buying/selling art of ocs but I want to make a page just to post my art as well that I can link to people if they wanna see more. But I don't know if I should make it on Facebook (seems like a lousy place to me) or Tumblr or DeviantArt.
Also the people in that facebook group are so greedy. 10$ for a "character design" which is just a bland teenage girl with a dagger? 15$ for a pencil sketch? Seriously
Also, oh gods, people are charging 10 whole dollars? Gee. They may even be able to afford to eat a couple McDonalds meals with all that greed.
She's nice and it was hilarious to watch her making a lot of people butthurt (including Monique) on the Trump video.
I really like the self betterment talks, but I think she did't choose some of her words too wisely on that response video. Some of the stuff she said sounded preachy, there was something about people not being ready for the love thing which just sounds like "I am right and you are just not ready to see it". Some of her attitudes remind me of people trying to convert you after joining a church.
Also you probably meant Sluggie instead of Spechie
Oh yeah Monique was triggered
wish I had saved the comment.. something about “Don’t tell me to love somebody who won’t give me all my medicine for free! Wah!”
And yup I meant sluggie thanks anon.
Those prices are standard quit bitching. If you want to sell OCs Tumblr and DeviantArt are your best bet but it takes a few days/weeks for people to know you exist on Tumblr so DA is faster.
If you need a portfolio you can try Behance or Artstation or make your own site using wix.>>281509
These people aren't professionals living off of their illustrations, they're just kids, their art is not of such a quality that it should cost so much (there are a few better ones but most are generic 13year old deviantart illustrations). Maybe I am just from a stingy family. Actually that is probably it because when I asked my brother how much I should charge for an illustration he said 3$. cheap bastard
161 subs and like 300 views. Clickbaity title.
The contents of the video aren't even that big a deal to stir up 'drama'. chill.
30 minute video of repeating the same disclaimers over and over again. Just say it once, it won't make any less of an impact.
Why is she whining that big youtubers don't pay attention to her lopsided faces?
People who call themselves "weird" are boring as fuck 100% of the time.
She doesn't seem like a terrible person, but she's bad at art and really obnoxious about it. I feel like she could improve if she just stopped thinking she was a great "professional, clasically trained artist".