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>>2226881Discuss art and related topics such as:
-Talk about Art Youtubers
-Ask about art supplies
-Discuss trashy art trends
-Instagram bullshit
-Art theft!
-General Art Bullshit
-Fandom and Shipping Discourse
-AI generated art (do not shill about your ai trained models key words on a prompt do not make you a artist)
-do not post your art to be reviewed here use the designated m thread
SCREENCAP EVERYTHING!
DO NOT REPLY TO BAIT! REPORT AND IGNORE!
WRITE SAGE IN THE E-MAIL FIELD OF YOUR COMMENTS!
Articles about useful resources for improving one's art:
https://hubpages.com/art/how-to-draw-learnhttps://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/https://www.alexhays.com/loomis/Tried and true books on perspective, anatomy for artists, etc:
1. Perspective Made Easy by Ernest R. Norling
2. How to Draw by Scott Robertson
3. Framed Ink by Marcos Mateu-Mestre
4. Figure Drawing by Andrew Loomis
5. The Atlas of Human Anatomy and Surgery JM Bougery
6. Drawing the Head and Hands by Andrew Loomis
7. Figure Drawing by Michael Hampton
8. Force by Michael Mattesi
9. How to Render by Scott Robertson
10. Color and Light by James Gurney
11. The Skillful Huntsman by Scott Robertson/Mike Yamada/Khang Le/Felix
Yoon
Useful youtube channels:
https://www.youtube.com/@mangamaterialsyoutube9454https://www.youtube.com/@hidechannel2>where to find arthttps://www.wikiart.org/eshttps://artvee.com/>other useful siteshttps://film-grab.com/https://www.canva.com/colors/color-palettes/https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/figure-drawinghttps://color.adobe.com/es/create/color-wheelhttps://freephotomuscle.com/painting Amrita Sher-Gil - Three Girls (1935)
MANY OF THESE BOOKS ARE AVAILABLE AS FREE PDF FILES ONLINE, GOOGLE AROUND. also check e-hentai and bilibili
No. 2269144
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I was gonna pitch this as the cover art for the next thread but then I discovered it's card art for magic the gathering. I still think it's pretty though
No. 2269174
>>2269146literally only 2 of thread pics are american art, calm down
>>2269144magic the gathering sucks they fired a lesbian artist for saying trannies didnt belong in lesbian spaces
No. 2269300
>>2269036>>2269104Not to nitpick further, but are the mangled 2nd and 3rd links intentional?
>Articles about useful resources for improving one's art:>https://hubpages.com/art/how-to-draw-learn>https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/https://www.alexhays.com/loomis/I think it's been like that since the op was redone for thread #34
No. 2269963
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>MFW An artist delete their brushes in CSP Assets
No. 2270038
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>TIF drawn with male body
>TIM drawn with female body
>Artist's name is Aiden
Why do trans artist do something so delulu??
No. 2270071
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>>2270038When you draw trannies with accurate proportions you get dogpiled for drawing caricatures kek picrel being a rather graceful depiction of a TIM yet it still made trannies seethe because he didn't look like a cute uguu kawiwi girl
No. 2270075
>>2270053Bluesky doesn't rely on a centralized algorithm to circulate content. As long as you tag your posts accordingly people should be able to find your content no matter how much time that passed and can search your account by that tag if they only want to see content of x media accordingly. I see bluesky as a combination of Twitter and tumblr so hopefully it kicks off well after the mass xitter exodus since it's system is
very beneficial for fandom posting and archiving
No. 2270093
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saw one nonna posting this art on the other thread but i forgot to ask what's this artist's username or how can i find it? i love this kind of nostalgic art
No. 2270490
>>2270336I don't think that's the issue, people form parasocial relationships via the artist' discord server and by spaming their replies etc not via telling them if they can draw your fursona.
People over here just dislike Skeb's lack of comunication.
No. 2270507
>>2270497But it works no different that Fiverr or asking the artist for a commission through DMs. The nice thing about Skeb is that you only have send the money, an idea and you get a drawing. Since there's no comunication it's nicer to the artist as well since they don't have to message back and fort, do corrections and the like.
I have seen artists on Vgen who offer Skeb-like commissions, but they aren't the majority. I was pretty dissapointed in Vgen when it launched and it wasn't like Skeb at all like they marketed it originally, people expect comunication on it and that's not forbiden, it's just a digital marketplace.
No. 2270508
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how to get this beautiful washed out effect? is it watercolour or ink?
No. 2270552
>>2270093You can find some of her art in Web Archive, her webpage was called Traumabunnt. Her FA is SoapDish.
>>2270286Ex is quite worthy if you're going to work in comic/Webtoon.
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Anyone following the whole chill guy meme fiasco?
No. 2270624
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>>2270521I found the original tweet, and unafortunely there's more people defending it than complaining. Maybe the drama happened elsewhere
https://x.com/pyro_cri/status/1734873830680564045 No. 2270706
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>>2270614Where the fuck do these people even come from, I've never seen his drawings before. And the issue is him copyrighting his character that cryptobros were using for shitcoins? What's the fiasco here?
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>>2270071>>2270521>>2270624Is like almost they want to forget the real trans women look like this?
Dammed if you do, dammed if you don't.
No. 2270810
>>2270624I checked out this game when it was popular. The character in question is as flat as a board with no waistline. Without the hair and the dress he looks no more like a woman than the other teenage boy character. The fandom headcanoned itself into believing marina used black magic to transition despite nothing like that getting being in the game itself.
>>2270789Miro pandered to gendies by including a tim character in the first place but he was clever with how he did it. In every scene where your character is nude Marina has his back facing out to hide his penis and lack of breasts. Miro must have smelled the angry American troons across the sea and took the safe route. Hilarious considering this game is known for being rapey with cocks out swinging all over the place.
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>>2270810And the character looks like this, in 1940, with a "transphobic" father. That artist made him some justice by not giving him huge breasts or a tiny and curvy waist like a real woman.
No. 2270928
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This webtoon artist’s gay ocs’ dynamic appeals to my tastes, but..
>they’re both asexual and don’t even like kissing
Fucking why kek…..
No. 2270939
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>>2270934Nah, the artist’s previous webtoon had some kissing so it’s mindboggling, why start pandering to aces?
No. 2270980
>>2269837>it reminds me of a longtime doujin artist Ive followed who quit making comics because it wasn't as profitable as skeb and now makes waifu coomslop art to get by, going through the pages of her pixiv is so bleakI mean at the end of the day people need to make money. I don't know if doujin in this case means original or fanart, but if its the latter then it's considered uncouth in Japan to make money of it regardless. And if it's original you're fighting against all the other artists who are trying to make their story known for cheaper or even free online.
>>2270311>>2270336Plenty of artists are already offering skeb services through Vgen. It's nice in fact because as an artist you aren't forced to either have 0 communication or a free for all. While I like the idea of skeb, it's nice to be able to just ask things to clarify. Based on what friends say, you don't get clients that will ask for a hundred revisions unless you're very cheap anyway. Skeb has its own downsides, I've seen it happen plenty of times where the artist despite good references (since you can see the prompt yourself) makes major mistakes.
No. 2270985
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>>2270038reminds me of aeritea
(femdom porn artist) who recently revealed one of her ocs is a tranny for brownie points. she draws him with a 100% male body, no titchop scars, no arm graft scars, just a regular man with working dick and balls
No. 2271190
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I’ll see a post like picrel and my brain flashes red and all I think is “WARNING: DOLLYGUTZ WANNABE AUTOPEDO TIF!!!” And I am always correct! What is it with them and this style?
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>>2271190I can sniff it out like a police dog with human remains. If you check the artist out the donut steal was less feminine a year ago…. That and they also drew south park art kek
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>>2271216she does though, pic attached
i just wish she'd draw it more often, i hate how fixated she is on ass stuff>>2271208pretty sure she's just a female handmaiden
it's not surprising at all tbh, she does have "terfs dni!!11" in her bio
No. 2271296
>>2271277this interaction is hilarious to me
>>2271256>dog dadKEK
No. 2271841
>>2270490I kinda understand why because some western artists like to ghost their commissioner entirely lol but iirc skeb has strict deadline and refund policy
>>2270497Vgen still has communications and you can leave "reviews" on the artist and your commission
No. 2272329
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>>2270552nayrt but i was wondering as well, thanks so much ! just correcting for other nonnies who might be interested it's traumabunny with a Y. this kind of art is so nostalgic.
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>>2271256This would've been sexier if he was completely naked or clothed, his bare ass is the focal point in the last panel amd it's distracting. But I support more fun lighthearted porn art focused on woman's pleasure to combat all the horrendous coomer porn drawn by moids.
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Indie animator nonnas, is there a reason why Tahoma2d isn’t more popular among free/affordable animation programs? It’s a modified fork of opentoonz. I’ve been enjoying it so far, it runs smoothly and it’s fairly easy to understand. Am I holding myself back if I use it as my main animation tool?
No. 2272884
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Whats the trick behind creating illustrations that look finished only very few values? i find it harder than just rendermaxxing for some reason.
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>>2272329Seeing her art makes me feel like I'm in 2002-2003 once again. Even if she has done better work in her FA, her old art has its charm.
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she probably has been mentioned often in these threads since shes one of the more well known cases of this happening but sarlisart has to be one of the most jarring cases of art style change I have ever seen from an artist. Her current art style can be appealing in a way that its intentionally amateurish, but it just cannot compare to her old art which stood out for its intricate and detailed backgrounds. I suddenly remembered her after seeing an ILWAG video pop up on my youtube feed and I also just found out the creator is now a tranny…
cant have shit it seems
No. 2272989
>>2272987I respect that, but man do I agree and miss her old art so much.
Tinfoil but it would be funny if she changed it solely because its now irreversibly associated with the troon musician kekk
No. 2273112
>>2272884Nice lineart, good proportions and pleasing color palette, you find it harder than rendermaxxing because it was pretty much created to hide the flaws on the raw drawing (aka your picrel).
Forget shading and just practice your lines, colors and fundies. If your art looks nice with just base colors, then you reached your goal, from there you can either leave it alone, add simple shadows (your picrel) or rendermaxx, either of the 3 will look good.
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We (sorta) got a pumpkin gentleman face reveal kek
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>>2272884Unironically reading Loomis’ beginner books way back was what helped me learn to mentally break up the values of whatever I’m looking into about 4-5 core shades. Lineart in animu art counts as type of shadow btw
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Anons I'm so sick of troonshit. I've recently joined a discord for one of my niche fandom interests that's helped me gain some attention on my art once I finally started posting publicly, and it was all well while the discord hosted 20ish people. The bigger it got more gendies started joining and shitting up conversations by turning every topic about themselves and their valid troon ocs. They've also started sperging about proship and antiship faggotry, and although they're on the "pro" side (which I guess I would lean towards if I was autistic enough to care about meaningless internet drama) I'm afraid that kinda crap will be a stain on my reputation and future growth as an artist, and I've literally just now started.
I don't know if I should leave the server. In my perfect outline of what I want for my art account I'd stay far away from either of those topics, but now as an active member I feel like I've been implicated in their bullshit just by being around them, despite not ever commenting on anything they say and disengaging once they start to talk about those things. I don't know if I'm being paranoid or just responsibly forward thinking. I just don't want to get cancelled this early on in my endeavors, I need commission money.
No. 2273596
>>2273134So manly wow
I'm surprised that her earlier "face reveal" didn't get posted here
>>2273302I thought she drew over her hand because she's not as fat as she draws herself as and her zoomer fans like getting mad that she's actually skinny lmao
>>2273543Just leave quietly or delete the server
No. 2273632
>>2273617Seconding this. Even if you don't engage and just post your art you will attract the troons as fans, and they're the WORST fan group you could possible have: mentally unstable, narcs, batshit crazy and looking for any reason to cancel others, misogynistic and homophobic with the most deranged fetishes.
Even the most "sane" TRA and troons will cancel you if they suspect you're a terfy bigot. And what is "accepted" changes constantly so you literally can't keep up no matter how hard you try.
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>>2273625It's still up, there you go
No. 2273721
>>2273709its not just the jaw its the lack of adams apple too kek
>>2273711they didnt but theyre still clowning on her. im surprised shes still producing so much milk despite all that
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>>2273714she also drew this of herself too kek its so funny to see what she imagines herself as. its insane. why doe she want to be a fugly fat moid when shes an extremely naturally beautiful woman
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>>2273728yes, here it is, it does kinda match how the eyes are drawn here
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When creating a professional web portfolio, should the "about" page be written in third person or first person? It's such a small thing but I'm neurotic of what kind of "vibe" either gives off.
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>>2273632Yeah nona, please mute the server and slowly fade out. Don't do what I did anon. I personally can't escape interacting with gendies - TIFs specifically make up like half of my audience and I need the numbers for my side income. Even if they aren't pornsick TIMs, TIFs are still either incredibly insufferable or just sad to look at. I hate having an audience of gendies and handmaidens. I regret it so much. You have to put up with nonsense neopronouns, whining about transphobia, etc etc. I feel like I am also at risk of them sniffing out my terfiness because I refuse to draw any troon characters of any sort, or because I never specify my characters' pronouns. Hopefully they don't catch on.
On the plus side, to any nona who does in fact have an audience of gendies and handmaidens, at least it's quite easy to pander to them if you're willing to draw
poc, fatties, or disabled people. I'll take those over coomshit
or gendieshit. Picrel to illustrate.
While we're on this topic, have any nonas actually been cancelled for not being woke enough? Have any nonas actually been strongarmed into drawing troonshit? If so, what are your thoughts and would you do anything differently now?
No. 2274027
>>2274019>While we're on this topic, have any nonas actually been cancelled for not being woke enough?It wasn't anything with troons and I didn't exactly get cancelled, but I have a story for my OCs and there are many characters in it separated into groups. The main group that I draw the most is the protag's group, and they're all fair skinned (only one was actually white, the rest of the cast is latino). I've had people come to me claiming I was being "
sus" that my story didn't have
POC characters (it does, I just don't draw them so often) and that I should change at least one of the protagonists into being black or brown because "having them all be white sends a bad message". Again, those were my OCs. My characters.
Needless to say I blocked the person.
No. 2274092
>>2274027Not quite the same but a polycule I shared a discord server with tried painting me as an everythingaphobe because my (majority)
poc OCs weren't minority enough for them. It started when someone in the artshare channel "innocently" suggested I give my ocs more realistic appearances. I guess my original answer wasn't up to their standard because out of nowhere I started getting these mysteriously loaded questions on tellonym like
>do you have any fat OCs?>are any of your ocs gnc?>why don't you have any trans ocs?>you and (server member) should draw your ocs interacting>if any of your OCs was trans, who would it be>what do you think of the (fandom character) trans headcanon>what does (oc who is known for being an asshole) think of trans people>trans rights???>do u ever get tired of pandering to cishet men>would you ever make a fat OC>what's your ideal body type??>why do you hate fat trans people???>wow fatphobic transphobic and homophobic add in racism and you'll get a bingo you terf cunt!This went on for a good two months. I had an idea of who the culprit was since one of the discord polycule kittens had a habit of subtweeting eerily similar topics after questions popped up. They're just as predictable as the cartoon villains they obsess over. Of course they are all sunshine and rainbows in the actual server. Never have I ever met a group of people online as vindictive and two-faced as the troon community. Nothing serious ever came of it, but I did notice a sudden drop in followers immediately after I left the server.
No. 2274126
>>2274019>IMs, TIFs are still either incredibly insufferable or just sad to look at. I hate having an audience of gendies and handmaidens. I regret it so much. You have to put up with nonsense neopronouns, whining about transphobia, etc etc. This! I avoid all talks about troons, never mention it at all etc and still EVERY time I end up talking to a troon they just turn the topic into them being trans. And I'm talking about people who (claim they) are autists and the fandom we're in is their autistic hyper-fixation special interest - yet they still care less about it than they care about being trans.
Even just for your own peace of mind you should leave if you're able to, it's incredibly mentally draining to have to see real women's mutilated chests being celebrated when your natural instinct is to cry and throw up from the horror.
No. 2274187
>>2274108I agree with you tbf she couldve been more popular
and adored and easily forgiven if she just admitted she's a woman but she'd rather larp as a fat ugly old man and live out her bara BL fantasy kek
yaoi is a hell of drug
>>2273543There are a lot of artists who just draw normal and cute art yet their art still attracts troons. It's in their blood to ruin and invade innocent things. It's not your fault
Leave them before it's too late
>>2273622It's not worth hanging around in places like that, these troons are also extremely narcissistic and turn the place into circlejerk quickly. I remember joining some artist's server only to find out he was a coomer troon surrounding himself with other degenerates kek
No. 2274485
>>2272435jeez raise your standards
nonnie, you deserve better than a pantsless sock moid fondling you while you eat breakfast
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Raising my Art Instagram age group for the US and Canada to 99+ years of age. Good or bad strategy? Should I include more countries? Lower the age to 40-ish? 50-ish? I don't care if I don't get noticed. Too much woke too too many weird people. But I could be missing something. I want to focus on European, Oceanic, Latin and Asian countries because they seem more chill in comparison. Also maybe closing comments, but I've been told that's a bit weird? I never cared and never got that many comments so I wouldn't know. You always end up with spam comments in there and it's annoying.
Edited my wording sorry
No. 2274526
>>2274019Gonna sound like a pickme here but I don't get why you'd bother with these people when they don't have that much money to spend to support your art to begin with, more likes on social media means nothing. I dropped them completely after being cancelled by them.
Most of my audience is men age 20-30. No whining, plenty of money, loyal support. I don't have to song and dance about men's rights or whatever and I'm public about being taken. I get edgy comments sometimes but I can just ignore them
No. 2274540
>>2274506That's so funny, hope it works out for you as intended. If you're worried about spam comments you can limit them to followers-only. And it won't seem weird at all if you remove the ability to comment completely, who's telling you otherwise?
>>2274092Wow, something similar happened to me too. I suddenly started getting loaded questions about my identity (to make sure I wasn't an evil white fujo fetishizing these poor fictional
poc men) that I kept blocking and deleting until I fucked up in another way and everything came pouring out publically from the senders. It was all done by some friendgroup I had no connections to that was seething hard about my main ship because they preferred a different one. They would post screenshots of long, ranty discord messages where they counted all my transgressions (that would get replies like "that's it?") and they continued to make tweets about how they want to kill me for months after I deleted that account and left the fandom kek
No. 2274552
>>2273714she's clearly at least part black but AAVE in her mouth sounds like a cringe minstrel show. is this a suburban girl who wants to larp as an inner city kid ?
>>2274019your pic, the best this could be is fetish art but it's probably a way to gain social currency which is even more depraved. the internet was a mistake.
No. 2274680
>>2274093Ayrt. Based for telling a troon to 41%, respect for saying what we all think. I hope one day you can share your art again nona.
>>2274540Thank you to the other nonas for sharing your stories also - I feel more appreciative of the fact I only have to deal with neopronouns and not whatever the hell this is.
>>2274526I respect your point of view and I get what you're saying. I think the type of art I make unintentionally attracted a lot of gendies, I did not pivot soon enough and I'm just stuck here. I also love the art I do so I don't want to change it either, and I'm too lazy to work at another account again to build my side hustle. Also I hate men more than I hate gendies lmao
My general theory is that TIMs love coomer yuri, TIFs love coomer fujo stuff or fugly ass gay art, and enbies are literally the girliest girls ever. Maybe if I draw only straight ship art, the gendies will go away kek. Has any nona here ever actually gotten their audience (mostly) gendie-free due to the type of art they make? I am so curious what makes certain pieces of art gendie-proof
No. 2274760
>>2274540>And it won't seem weird at all if you remove the ability to comment completely, who's telling you otherwise?Some people find it weird that you're not available for them 24/7 as an artist and start thinking you're
sus for not doing so
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Why is everyone so quick to whiteknight male coomer artists? I only saw one or two tweets calling this fanart oversexualized (which seems fair, considering the exaggerated proportions), yet the qrts are full of people acting like it’s some massive controversy.
No. 2274813
>>2274803iirc that specific character is a rape
victim in the game she's from which resulted in most of the fandom becoming overprotective of her to a ridiculously retarded degree. so even if she's oversexualized it's guaranteed it1ll
trigger some diehard fan thinking you're a woman-hating pervert because "YOURE OVERSEXUALIZING A SA
VICTIM!!!1!"
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>>2274803It's probably everyone feeling sensitive after this monstrosity. I dont blame them tbh kek
No. 2274822
>>2274803>>2274820I'm so sick of hearing about this game and its stupid fandom, I bet the devs behind it feel like oppenheimer
can't wait for everyone to inevitably start hating on it and calling it trash so I never have to think about it again
No. 2274823
>>2274819It would be fine for them to be overprotective if they weren't literally shielding coomer moids from criticism in the process lmao
>>2274820I hate men
No. 2274824
>>2274803Depends on what the original looked like.
If they 5x upped her tits then yeah. If it's true to the original then it's not the artist but the creator, no?
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Does anyone know of more artists that focus on history themed art? There have to be more history autists that arent mossa, right? I also dont use twitter so i dont know how to find them
No. 2274832
>>2274828NTA but yeah she's from Mouthwashing. It's a psychological horror game with PS1 graphics, fairly short too. Tt's good but nothing groundbreaking imo. As for the gendietards I have no idea but my guess is like
>>2274813 stated, this specific character gets raped by one of the protagonists offscreen. Said protagonist also looks like the average greasy moid and he's easy to hate.
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>>2274832Thanks for summarizing it. Two seconds of looking at that character is making me tinfoil that one of the devs has a celebrity crush on Shelly Duvall.
No. 2274864
>>2274803hard agree, i think women shaming goonslop is based as fuck and should happen way more. i've spent
years wishing more women in fandom would direct some outrage towards these coomroaches instead of getting all worked up over mostly pointless shit, and i'm so glad it's finally starting to happen. more of this everywhere, please.
No. 2274868
>>2274861same, if I wanted to hear about a rape
victim getting treated like shit I would just read the news, I've muted the hashtag and don't interact with the fans and I still can't escape it, I'm also sick of seeing
the rape apologia like moids projecting their disgusting rape fetish onto her, I'm just so tired of having to read about women being abused by moids all the fucking time in any story (both real and fictional) ever
No. 2274911
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Nonas, how do you cope when your favorite female artist turns out to be a moid or troon? Every time I find a cool artist that draws like a woman, they always turn out to be a "lesbian" troon like picrel or a mentally unstable moid, with the latter being the case with Japanese and Korean artists.
I'm at my fucking limit
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>>2274911>using troonsuji goods as picrelI’m sorry anon how did you ever think that shit was drawn by a woman in the first place kek. I knew it the moment I saw that he was one behind that neet dating sim and his dog oc with the male neutered symbol
No. 2274925
>>2274911I always do a quick background check before following an artist by checking their following list and their recent tweets, not foolproof but still I've managed to avoid following lolifags and nazis by doing it
>>2274916nta but I'm not into yaoi and it sucks to not be able to find art of female characters not made by moids
No. 2274929
>>2274916I just like cute pictures of cute girls
>>2274922I found out he was a troon last year, but he's one of the most popular examples atm
>>2274925ayrt I started checking what kind of music they listen to for a background check now, works most of the time tbh
No. 2274931
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>>2274911If picrel is your taste then it's time to start fixing your palate first
No. 2274933
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>>2274911some anon said troons have long faces and i can't unsee that in the troon drawings
No. 2274935
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NTA and I dont have trouble telling female artists apart from troons but what confuses me is telling gay men apart from straight women. Not talking about the obvious barafags. For example, i cant tell if af_cf is a woman or a man.
Reasons i think it might be a man:
>mostly draws roided guys
>horse racing autism
>the simple shading and focus on mostly rough sketches is something i mostly see with male artists
Reasons i think it might be a woman
>has an husbando
>only draws guys
>the faces are pretty and youthful instead of old, hairy and bloated like barafags
No. 2274946
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>>2274941When i posted her in another thread her guys got called roided, although i agree they arent roided because while muscular she often gives them nice waist to shoulder ratios but idk
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>>2274937Then tell me nona, was this drawn by a woman?
No. 2274969
>>2274956You're only saying that because I asked you.
let's not infight What I'm trying to say is, moids are capable of drawing like women and the ones who can are always extremely mentally unstable and dangerous whether they have trooned out or not. It's like male equivalent of pick-me.
I'm just so tired idk I just wanted to enjoy some cute girl art
No. 2275056
>>2274771You curate followers by following somewhat controversial RW accounts (example, dunno, tucker carlson) and not drawing anything gay. Both yaoi and yuri attract gendies.
Warhammer, military characters, gundam, history they all attract a mostly male with money audience.
I don't draw porn
No. 2275068
>>2275056>gendie audience that hates youOr
>misogynistic audience that hates usIs this the fate of most non gendie female artists nowadays? I hate the modern internet.
No. 2275087
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>>2275060I feel like people who say that can never read between the lines when certain body parts are proportioned and drawn in a way that's meant to be fetishistic or sexually alluring. Feet aren't inherently sexual, but if you look at any art drawn by a foot fetishist, you can still identify that the person drawing feet in
that way are doing it because that's what turns the footfag artist on.
No. 2275429
>>2274911You probably already realized this in hindsight, but yeah… what
>>2275401 said. Dog kemonomimi girls are an extremely TIM thing, and I think even before the puppy girls this guy was already doing a bunch of Blahaj references when it was super popular with trannies. If you really care so much about avoiding gendies, you also have to be aware of what memes/trends are currently popular among them to keep your troondar up to date.
No. 2275560
>>2274911This is extremely moid gazey. The only people who would draw something like this are 99% males and 1% girls with abysmal self-esteem who have spent all their online lives around lolicons and have been groomed into drawing like this to pander to their moid "friends". I used to think this troon was one of these for some reason, maybe I just clung to the possibility of him being just a weird pickme NLOG, but exceptions like these are so rare you might as well always assume these artists are male.
Males are obsessed with inoffensive moe/"funny"/"silly" anime girls and have a distinctive art style. Look at the way male anime artists draw girls vs. the way female artists that draw FOR girls draw them. Non-Japanese males draw girls with the same fashion sense as the Japanese ones because of their anime influences. They have a schoolgirl fetish so they draw the girls with realistic uniforms and hair styles, but reduce them to clean and cute caricatures. Women usually draw girls in a more human and authentic way, like this
>>2274931Another glaring red flag is that moids will only draw girls. In your pic there are only two of them, both generically moe, and no males (waifufag/yurifag thing). It's nearly impossible to find a lesbian that draws anime girls like this.
They also fetishize Japan a lot through the lens of moe anime. That's why your pic depicts two anime girls in typical CGDCT fashion over a photo of a Japanese street.
>>2274946>When i posted her in another thread her guys got called roided,NTA but don't listen to those retards, roided is another body type, a grotesquely muscular one that looks like a mutant. They don't know what it means so they call any toned guy "roidpig". Also this artist is clearly female, and I don't even know her or her husbando. Women tend to draw men more gracefully and androgynous (normal with a touch of pretty), while male artists exaggerate masculine features in the same way they exaggerate feminine features in women.
>>2274803>breasts aren't inherently sexual!!!!!!No matter how many times you tell yourself this, if it's a straight male making her boobs massive, it's because it gives him a boner, fucking retard. Then again, it's near impossible for a male to draw fanart of a female character who was raped in a serious and nuanced manner, because moids can't empathize, and it's more likely that they'll get off to her suffering in some way (either by literally getting off to the rape or by fetishizing her vulnerability).
No. 2275586
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>>2274803>breasts aren't inherently sexualyeah sure. but what was the reason behind giving her big boobs? i bet it was entirely non-sexual
>>2274826OT but the character models in this game are so fucking ugly and the "nostalgic lowpoly ps2" style is not an excuse. the devs were too lazy to even animate a walk cycle so all the characters just teleport when out of view. their faces all look like they're drawn in different artstyles. i hate this 2deep4u garbage and its insufferable fandoms. can't wait until everyone forgets about it and moves on to the next FOTM
No. 2275605
>>2270985I hope she's just doing it to avoid
TERF accusations. Either way, lame. The character is fully male, he doesn't have a female body. That's why I feel like this is just a cope.
>>2272614>>2271256Yeah, her anatomy has always been kinda terrible. Is this recent? If so, that's sad. As other anons said, there's zero passion or energy in the expressions and poses, it's all so amateurish and she's been doing this for years. Aeritea desperately needs to improve her gesture and male anatomy, I can't even pretend to like her "porn" anymore, kek. The guy wouldn't look so bad in these clothes if she knew how to pornify males and draw their backs and asses properly. If she did, you wouldn't even notice the boring clothes. And the hairstyles she gives the men are so boring too, I don't wanna be reminded of how terrible real life men's fashion sense is.
No. 2275636
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>>2275605>I hope she's just doing it to avoid TERF accusations.she had "terfs=blocked" in her bio for ages so i doubt it. picrel is what i found when looking at her bluesky profile just now
>Is this recent?no, it's from a year ago
>I can't even pretend to like her "porn" anymore, kek.agreed, she has some ok drawings but most of her art is mid both artstyle and theme-wise
No. 2275652
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>>2270985samefag i just realized i got her ocs mixed up
because they all look the fucking same, picrel, she hasn't shown nao's dick? pussy? anywhere yet so i guess i was wrong. she drew him getting fingered though but you can't tell whether it's in the ass or pussy. i'm sorry for misleading you anons.
>>2275637KEK
No. 2275819
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I fucked up my wrist and haven't been able to draw for one year and a half. Had surgery a few months ago but still am in so much pain every day. Anybody been through something similar? Did you ever recover enough to go back to drawing? I spent two years drawing on my fucked wrist before I went to the doctor so I might have made it worse and now I'm paying the price.
No. 2275856
>>2274092>>2274540no wonder why so many
POC OCs/projections are so ugly and weird, they're made out of obligation rather than love and interest
No. 2275952
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>>2275856>they're made out of obligation rather than love and interestMaybe that's why Slavic and east Asian artist draw so authentically. They aren't trying to net brownie points. An idea popped in their head and decided they wanted to realize it. A lot of American artist are more concerned with a message instead of thinking about what they want out of piece which often leads to preachy pandering slop that feels and looks so freaking ugly. I can at least stomach someone drawing their own features since they do it out of their own passion, but even they can feel stifled by peer pressure to conform.
No. 2275988
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why do asian artists always have low self esteem? its kinda funny compared to western artists who normally have the opposite problem and never get better because their egos are in the stratosphere. At least their whining tends to be in languages i dont understand so i can avoid it.
No. 2276025
>>2275988I know right it always makes me laugh when anons praise the discipline of Asian Primarily Japanese artists(some can be mentally stable though and dont share that kind of shit)when in reality they're only one waifu away from hanging themselves
i actually had a Japanese mutual who was a emotional vampire so much I had to mute her because of her continued "AAAa someone drew my husbando better I'm cutting myself and I'm just going kms because I'm not good at anything anyways!!" artist arent really that different between the spheres it's just how much exposed you are to them sometimes I wish there were certain aspects of the western artist community that were in eastern ones
LIKE SHARING YOUR FUCKING BRUSH YOU NIP BASTARD and vice versa
No. 2276036
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>>2276025>"someone drew my husbando better than me! Omg I'm gonna kill myself!"This really reminds me of that time a husbandofag threw a tantrum in /g/ because someone drew her husbando in a ship with an OC. She said looking at that one fanart made her feel so sick, reading her tantrum without context would be like watching a person recovering from being physically assaulted. It's hilarious to me when husbandofags get so chronically online that they forget that husbandos are fictional and
don't exist. It's not cheating if he's
not fucking real KEK.
No. 2276083
>>2274911I don't care if a man is behind something in the first place, i draw the line at gendie/AGP themed art. Your picrel is AGP themed. Do you have examples of kr or jp artists who turned out to be unstable males?
>>2276033>consuming contentAgreed but it's no wonder you keep running into tranny slop with this mindset. Look up artists' following lists and pick bishoujo artists you like, read yuri by female authors etc.
No. 2276093
>>2276090im not in the mw fandom but a friend of mine is so i got to watch shit go down from a safe distance, and unfortunately a bunch of women were being harrassed as well. in one hand the gendies were being targeted for being retarded, on the other hand a bunch of fujo artists were being attacked because they drew a yaoi ship that the gendies think is "
toxic".
No. 2276109
>>2276086>Most yuri by female authors is coomer loli slop.No, you're repeating things you read three days ago on here.
>They draw generic neonatus looking anime girls and then wonder why AGPs and moids flockThis sadly describes a big chunk of yuri but BL and GL are closely related to shojo so they will look cuter than seinen or bara. Besides, men will flock to lesbian-themed manga regardless of how women draw them. I don't know why i bother explaining this since you probably have a raging hateboner for yuri
No. 2276574
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has anyone found out what artist Juby is vague posting about plagiarizing her work. The only hints is that she's well established and has more followers than Juby.
No. 2276611
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>>2276574No idea, but she also tweeted picrel
No. 2276648
>>2276611Luckily the stream has been saved so I sat through and waited on who the artist is. She namedrops her on 22:00 however I wasnt able to make out what she said or how the artist's username is spelt. If anyone could interpret and find the account it would be much appreciated
link to the stream:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2307818916?t=00h21m57s No. 2276658
>>2276648im not following these artists so idk but a quick look on juby's twitter gives me an account recommendation for @genicecream
and yea, she's a bigger artist
No. 2276666
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>>2276658holy shit
the genicecream? I didn't know she made OC stuff, I mostly know her for fan art merch and her recent dunmesh cosco AU. Im curious as to how this will go down, she hasn't made a statement ever since the callout aside from a notice postponing her shop's opening.
No. 2276684
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>>2276658She's definitely way more established, she created concept art and promo posters for studio
trigger (Brand New Animal)
No. 2276729
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mossa is having a meltdown because his art got banned from warhammer subreddits
No. 2276806
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>>2276794nevermind he didnt delete it he just keeps rt his own art and its a mess to scroll through his timeline. I am pretty sure he commented more about the situation but he either did it on his alt or deleted it.
No. 2276880
>>2274911kek is there a way to draw an anthro dog anime woman without it being tranny pandering? my anxiety wont let me sleep
though my characters look more like monster high dolls than moe or furry slop
No. 2276896
>>2276861must be my tinfoil hat finally cutting the circulation to my brain but i have suspicion that these idiots are doing this just so that if you do draw inclusive art, that they'll accuse you of being something-phobic. like if you draw a
poc person they can scream that you didn't draw the skin dark enough or some shit, or if you draw a trannie they can flip their shit at the fact that the skull looks too masculine kek. just ignore them, they are doing this to sabotage you.
No. 2276905
>>2276896Yeah, you and the other nonnies are right. I just feel like ignoring them also opens up questions and accusations, but honestly, who cares at this point? I can just say it's because getting unsolicited requests or suggestions is annoying.
>>2276899I personally like character design videos, so PricklyAlpaca and littlestarnerd.
No. 2276943
>>2276627Not only that but making multiple tweets about the situation only describing everything as if she's a helpless
victim. Fucking grow a pair and confront them directly, or start the witch-hunt like you obviously want. The only time I ever see this artist on my tl it's her crying about someone "stealing her stuff" and sending her followers to fight her battles for her.
No. 2276956
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>>2276611kek this woman is an absolute narcissist in secret i'm convinced. no decent adult believes things like this.
No. 2276982
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How did you do this year nonnies? i barely improved and its making me suicidal
No. 2277029
>>2276956Yeah, I found her response a bit too much. She also said she met Genice when she(Genice) was freshly 18 so Juby felt the need to be the responsable adult, which is why she was supporting G on creating her own story, so it's even more bizarre that Juby told her all of A Witch's Cross details, which she said are based on her life.
Tbh, The only reason I even remember who Juby is because of a spat she had with Hollee(SoundlessWind) about a zine Hollee was organizing making. Can't remember the actual details, it was either Juby was mad Hollee didn't disclose the charity she was donating her and, I think, another friend's zine profits or the fact it was a for profit zine and she didn't disclose it in her post to potential buyers. This was like 10 years or more ago but even then I thought it was weird to just air it all in public instead of talking in private.
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>>2276956>exploited and abusedget a fucking grip, all that happened was that your ocs do not steel got ripped off. sure it sucks that it was a friend that did so, but shes acting like she was shot and had her livelihood robbed from her, what a narc.
No. 2277152
>>2276574Those "extreme" solutions just sound like she had no idea what to do about Juby being upset kek
>>2276982You should've studied more and tried out new things
No. 2277218
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People who go "I'm so compassionate and people are always taking advantage of me!" are 9.9/10 times a manipulator who has a PHD in gaslighting and controlling the narrative.
No. 2277228
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>>2277218pot calling kettle black. if she was such a pitiful sad
victim, why does she have to pull out all the cards to make her seem shes of no fault (e.g. "The project was so personal to me!", "Im disabled!" and "Genice is lucky to be privileged unlike me!") it especially looks more unhinged when the supposed plagiarized work hasnt even been made public in the first place and this could have all been dealt privately. who is she to say that genice didnt experience similar hardships she had when taking inspiration from her ocs, why was she so quick to assume the worse when a friend takes inspiration form her work.
she also talks rich for someone who has also has an oc that looks very similar to another person's character (prince canary)
its really suspicious how much shes been dragging this on for despite not wanting to "start unnecessary drama", it makes me wonder if this is all a vendetta about a younger friend's success.
No. 2277252
>>2277233>I hate you all>is on lolcow Kek the boxcutter didnt get the edge off did it today?
>>2277195Just dont give the claims any leeway stay adamant that you're not a pedophile and you will not entertain these sort of claims ignore these allegations for now but if they have some proof of you being a creep then you're fucked
No. 2277266
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>>2277258To add to this, Korean and Chinese GL tends to have more realistic proportions in their art style and portrays settings outside of the usual "Highschool first love" trope. Its why tamen de gushi is one of the few manhuas moids/troons are aware of because it has the usual themes you'd find in japanese GL.
Plus Korean/Chinese GL creators tend to be outwardly radfem, especially the Korean ones.
(That is to say not all Korean/Chinese GL are exclusively like this, and some may be the same coomer loli slop you'd find in Japanese GL. )
No. 2277278
>>2277266I love CN/KR stuff because it is probably the only form of women's media with an abundance of stuff where you don't have to choose between an obese vitiligo genderblob and a 60IQ twintail cowtits loli. These look like normal women.
And yeah, less fucking school cancer. Japanese people really are an example of countrywide high school peaking, why tf is everything about children and tweens?
No. 2277304
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>>2274829As a fellow historyfag, I got you nona. Unfortunately there are all from Twitter so you’ll have to make an account:
@ssaggy15, picrel.
@PeanutMGA
@Cy_lindric
@sarcasticalself.
@DucDeVinny
@camille_leto
@Alloydia
@hakunette
@napoleontlqkf
@its_olsomm
@Mud_and_Blood
@JulotduLac
I can’t guarantee 100% that none of these are nazis or gendies but most of them feel like woman with a couple of exceptions.
No. 2277462
>>2277228I don’t doubt she was actually plagiarized, as she said her friend admitted fault but the way she’s acting is just so callous and self victimizing. I don’t think it’s as cut and dry as she’s making it. When people are under pressure, they’re prone to cracking and accepting a disproportionate amount of blame just to make the other party stop, and the way Juby is acting just really feels off. She’s taking every
victim card possible here. She seems like she REALLY wants this person socially outcast, she’s been sperging about this for almost 2 weeks now on her bluesky.
No. 2277590
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>>2277587oh
well i hope it's just her nlog phase, though it sucks she has a huge reach
No. 2277612
>>2277536Why would I care what a handmaiden teen thinks about coomers anyways her brain hasn't even fully developed
or peaked yet
No. 2277820
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>>2277555picrel you replied to is opium, a historical murder mystery; its complete and is written by the same author of On A Leash (another good manhwa as well but has characters turning into anthropomorphic animals in case furryshit is a deal breaker.)
Her shim cheong is also another historical manhwa thats completed and features a beautiful art style and story.
Theres more I could list but its probably better to move it to the GL thread on /m/ which desperately requires more traction.
No. 2277926
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>>2276611>>2276956what was posted to bluesky
No. 2278106
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>>227557916bit sensation's manga was written based on several people in the industry's input during a nostalgic drinking session, and an artist who was pretty big during the LeafKey era feels the protagonist Meiko is basically her. The story goes she started working for a computer parts store and got roped into helping with PC-98 era porn games because she drew a pretty nice store advert. The story is filled with her being slowly coerced into drawing more and more pornographic things and she eventually ends up an extremely popular artist but winds up with a lot of male stalkers she just kinda has to deal with. If she feels the character was literally just her, I wonder how many women in the industry got roped in like that.
No. 2278228
>>2277926KEKK claiming she's disabled and then admitting it's just that being sad makes her feel bad. insulting to actual disabled people, if it wasn't so funny. actually the unhinged way she's saying and doing all this kind of makes me wonder what hell she must have put someone younger than her through? sometimes people who are privately
abusive hurry to point fingers before the other person can get a chance? don't know if that's her or if she's just retarded, however.
No. 2278239
>>2278228>sometimes people who are privately abusive hurry to point fingers before the other person can get a chance?This is usually the case with people who try to get a head start and start saying extremely heinous things. They like to poison the well and make the other person seem mentally unwell or like a genuinely evil person so nobody takes them seriously or even so much as attempt to hear them out when they try to explain their side. This is especially an issue amongst younger people as they typically don't have the life experience to see through a controlled narrative yet, but isn't Juby over 30 at this point? Truly pathetic behavior.
>>2278219Anime and manga about the industry is always so cool, wish there was more of it.
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>>2274803>115k likes for decrying people who call a spade a spade if they'd spent even ten seconds going through this guy's art gallery they'd see nothing but huge perky tits and sexy pinups. sort of reminds me of the burnice zzz shit from a month or two ago, basically you've got an anime girl twerking and grinding in a mini skirt with panty shots and she can't blink without her tits swinging to her ears but you get called crazy if you label it goonbait. "women just look like that!!!!!" okay, sure buddy
No. 2278674
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>>2277926someone stealing her ocs made her disabled
No. 2278792
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>>2278654It is weird how she mentions that she only actually helped brainstorm the concept (which she wants credit for until the end of time I guess) and how she suddenly realized all the storybeats were apparently stolen. I wish there was a way for us to compare but it seems like Edensgate isn't out and Witches Cross is just a collection of illustrations strewn over her social media right now? I bet considering the way she exaggerates everything those life lessons were completely basic shit that has been in a million works already kek
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>>2278674>>2278654>>2278579>>2278228>>2278092Having just received a diagnosis for ADHD and had my entire world torn apart by having the confirmation on paper, I have even more contempt for all these quirky online artists who claim to have undiagnosed mental issues for social points. It's all fun and games joking about neurodivergence but knowing now that all the behaviours I hated about myself and spectacular academic failures are up to the fact I'm medically retarded is actually a massive burden of shame to overcome. I haven't even told anyone in my personal life about it, let alone put it anywhere near my artist circle on social media. Anyone who is overly inclined to tweet on end about the most crushing setback in their life (besides trying to reassure or advise others with that burden) is an immediate red flag to me.
No. 2278977
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Am i the only one struggling to get a fucking vgen code? I've been trying for 2 months sharing the post they make but nothing. You can also get a code by sharing a post of yours and if it gets a lot of interaction you get one, but I'm one of those artist who got 400 followers so this won't work for me either. I also don't have vgen friends that could shared one with me kek…
So there you have me sharing the fucking post every monday like a retard for a 2% chance of a code. Lel.
I wanna try for vgen because after ia I wasn't able to get a single commission compared to last year, and I don't know where to post my availability anymore, I tried on discord but realized that you need a vgen code to merely say the word commissions open without getting banned. So, I'm out of ideas. Sperging over
No. 2278998
>>2278977Initially I tried getting a code through interactions/engagement, but then one of my followers randomly messaged me saying they had a spare code and offered it to me. I admit it was by pure damn luck.
I personally suggest you try to get one through giveaways on Bluesky. Even with many people moving from Twitter, Bluesky still doesn't have that many people so giveaway posts end up with very few applications, making it a lot more likely that you'll win something. Back when I was searching for a code for myself I saw giveaways on Bluesky that had three or four entries max, while on Twitter nearly all VGen giveaway posts had well over ten.
Good luck nona!
No. 2279001
>>2278977seconding
>>2278998, try going on bsky for giveaways. saw a lot of artists in there, mainly smaller art vtubers, doing vgen code giveaways to promote themselves and most don't have a huge artist following so their posts get very few entries. i got my code from one of those giveaways, the person was giving away two codes and the giveaway post had four entries including mine.
No. 2279018
>>2278994That's what I used to do back then, I would post on reddit and get clients rather quickly, but I don't anymore, I have know idea if I'm doing something wrong.
I also see a lot of people gaining followers for nothing, I even dare to say they draw worse than me kek. But I'm an actual sperg so interacting with people doesn't come naturally for me, I only know how to upload my illustrations and hit the post button. So i wouldn't even know where to start to actually get followers.
No. 2279458
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genuinely love this artist but this is so dumb
No. 2279957
>>2278792I don't know either artist but following along this thread, has Juby considered that her friend possibly was so heavily inspired/influenced by her story because SHE helped brainstorm it? Any story you write or tell will have you in it. If she was brainstorming and contributing ideas, then yes, it's going to look like her work.
It's also just strange that there doesn't seem to have been any proof provided as of yet.
No. 2280030
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>>2279991NTA but Yoon/@dmsco1803(500k+) is an example, she used to mostly draw Gojo/JK fanart and now she draws Wind Breaker BL(EndoChikai). Picrel is an example from before her art (imo) devolved tho.
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>>2279991bunnyclvb (picrel), cwilocky, mors_gn, sevvanto, teco_etc, bombyoon, rev_bmp, shigure0528, atie1225, Ximiandingshi, tanaca_, minai_mosa, semi_finalfight, Dazuzuzu, CHADA_01, ameriya7, memcchi, chengongzi123, 819Napp, BTMR_2, Shira_mame93, kaninn, 1o8k_, mugenoumi, rivaeri_, nori31291404, __bell_minta, i_WantMoreTime, li_chestnuts, ksk535, SaiprinSK, genki_heiki & inplick just to name the ones twitter allows me to see (I follow over 600 accounts and it stops loading in more at one point) that don't only post porn. Some of them do draw women from time to time. Some are popular because they make fanart or have published works. Some will not draw in a style you like. My point is that there's always an audience for images of 2D males. But if you built your account by posting female pin-ups your drawings of men obviously won't get the same attention from your audience. Just keep posting what you like to draw and maybe look beyond social media numbers. Start a comic or make a game or something, you'll feel much more fulfilled and you'll probably be able to make money off it as well.
No. 2280196
>>2280180ntayrt but
nonnie came through with the receipts kekekeke, thanks nonita, i shall follow all of these.
No. 2280292
>>2280123I have a very close friend who is a TikTok artist (well, TikTok isn't her main platform, but more like her second. Anyway) and I did ask her about this one day when I was considering hopping platforms to get away from Twitter.
She says that in one hand, it can be a lot easier for you to gain a following and numbers. Trendy art memes and "aesthetic" something-core speedpaints can get a lot of views really quick and if you're trend-savvy you can use that in your favor to maximize engagement and stats. On the other hand did say say that you need to have some divine patience because it's CRAWLING with kids and people with the IQ of a spoon, and the same way it's easy to get numbers in there it's also just as easy for your posts to get dogged on if they decide something in it is "pwoblematic'. She also dislikes the fact that most of the comments she gets are whatever meme internet slang has been going around lately. She doesn't expect full art feedback but seeing four "mama x behind you" consecutive comments on a single post again and again sure does something to your faith in humanity.
All in all she says it's fine but really not the best place for artists. If you're a more meme type of artist or you do animatics or basically anything that has to do with short punchy videos then maybe, but outside of that it's kind of meh and can bring you more unrest than good.
No. 2280409
>>2280386>>2280390It's not a stupid fear especially in the world we currently live in but the chances are extremely low, I think. If you're really that paranoid, you can not post any irl photos that stalker weirdos will hone in on and you can not take commmissions so your irl name is safe. Despite the rumors against me, despite how people think I'm "anti-femboy", despite having multiple selfies posted, despite how people think I'm a manipulative controlling abuser, despite taking paypal commissions regularly, despite having tens of thousands of followers, I have yet to be doxxed. The secret is that I literally just mind my own business and don't acknowledge any of it because I know it's horseshit. A big part of it for people is the reaction, they like that feeling of power over you and ignoring them makes them feel small and look crazy, because what the hell are you even actually doing besides minding your own business?
No. 2280511
>>2280482People just twisting my words to the worst possible interpretation to up their own
victim points. At one point they were saying I sounded like a rape apologist because I said posting those kinds of pics can invite in more uncomfortable behavior, as if rape and posting men in skirts and thigh highs in a server full of minors aren't two completely different things.
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How do you construct your figures nonny? do you start with gesture then construction, or do you just wing it like a pro? i have tried everything and nothing seems to stick
No. 2281250
>>2280409What is your protocol for interacting with your followers? Do you like replies on your art? Do you reply to people? Running a Discord server seems like way more trouble than it's worth imo. This does relieve me, though. My art is too niche
and not that good to get tens of thousands, so I doubt I'd get that much attention to worry about drama in the first place. maybe just "working full time makes me too busy to reply to people or network, this is just to post finished work when I'm ready, sorry!" is sufficient? the thought of codependent fans seems annoying too.
No. 2281273
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>>2280180Looking through your recs and found this gem
No. 2281590
>>2281250At first I was a fucking retard, don't get me wrong, use this first part as a guide for what NOT to do. My own loneliness took precedent over anything else at first, I grew extremely fast and was starstruck by all the people who suddenly wanted to talk to me after a long while of isolation (I fall on a sweet spot between level 1 and level 2 autism, so social contact is difficult for me), so when people began asking me for a discord, I said yes and was more willing to divulge personal details.
I thought because I had good intentions and wanted to be fair to everyone, drama wouldn't find me and I would surely be respected in the community, but as it turns out, it's not only your own behavior you have to watch out for. All it took was for me to assert a boundary towards a bpd-chan, have her take it as a rejection, split on me, and run an entire smear campaign for all this drama I'm dealing with now to get started. I really thought that if she managed to turn so many people against me that I was the problem, but rolling over and just taking it only fuels the fire, you can't bend to anyone's will when they talk shit about you or they'll take it as proof everything is true, regardless of the fact that most bad people won't actually admit to wrongdoing. This is why gaslighting and reactive abuse is a powerful tactic, especially in spaces like these where a lot of consumers are teenagers or people in their very early twenties who don't have the life experience to recognize these tactics yet and just go with the crowd.
TL;DR, to avoid shit like this completely, you need to make sure you're not letting in assholes who take things in bad faith into your spaces to minimize your chances. All it takes is one manipulative person who gets angry at you to spread a narrative and get it snowballing. I avoid people with BPD entirely now.
If anything does happen, do not acknowledge it publicly. It may be tempting, I've struggled a lot not to post a story like "these people who are spreading and believing horrible lies about me with zero evidence are going to hell", but this only calls attention to it and will make people curious. Even though it hurts and feels like a world ending event to you, most times it will only be a small group out of all your followers who are spreading the rumor, but calling attention to it only makes people want to look into it, people who could be swayed, people who could be disgusted and want to look more into you and bring you to "justice".
But again, I wouldn't worry. Even though I have a large platform, these people who believe I supposedly assaulted a minor are only sticking to discord gossip. Rumors and drama with no merit won't go anywhere except amongst mentally ill people that most will brush off.
Nowadays, I do still respond to my followers, but my discord is deleted and I don't respond to DMs. I like their comments and thank them when they say they like my work or if they have something else to say, like a question about my OCs or a comment about some property I drew fanart for, I don't worry about it and respond to that too. Don't feel compelled to overexplain yourself, though saying you're working full time is pretty innocent. Really, if you're just dropping art and going, I don't think you need to worry. My issue is that I was a lot more personal with my followers, I was incredibly lonely and my mental health was poor, so I used my art like a diary and when I blew up I think some people just got weirdly parasocial with me, and the more mentally unstable ones probably felt personally betrayed. It's always odd to me when I hear about people I've never personally spoke with talking about me like I did them wrong. If you don't do any of that, I really think you'll be fine. Again, despite all of this, I haven't gotten a callout or a doxxing or anything, most people I've seen get doxxed have proof of them actually doing the thing they were accused of, but if you're planning on being pretty private and keeping to yourself, it may just be the anxiety talking. It's easy to convince yourself that it's a real danger if you read a lot of threads on here or on kiwifarms or watch drama videos on youtube but these are just a small handful of artists amongst the thousands who exist online and piss people off and get into drama. I promise you'll be okay.
Sorry for the TL;DR blog but actually living through this has been a real eye opener and I hope a more detailed account can help.
No. 2281645
>>2281537>ShirobakoRealistic anime about creating anime and how stressful yet rewarding of a job it can be, as well as touching on how hard it can be to get your career rolling. Quite literally a 24 episode long love letter to the industry.
>New Game!This is about making games, but the main characters are all character artists, except for one who does motion animation and is just in their booth. It has ecchi and male-gazey moments but there's no men in the show and the yuri is genuine and isn't bait. Two of the women get married at the end of the manga, it's great. Watching the main character Aoba move up in her career and achieve her dreams is immensely satisfying and motivating.
>Look BackChainsaw man author's new movie about two friends creating manga together until adulthood. It's great, I cried.
>BakumanSon of a popular mangaka follows in his footsteps, teaming up with his bro and hoping to impress a girl while he's at it.
>The Tunnel to Summer, Exit of GoodbyesAll I can say without spoilers is that the main heroine draws manga, and it becomes very important to the plot later.
>Comic PartyExtremely retro, based off of a pornographic visual novel but if you like 16bit sensation, which is about games like that, you probably don't care. The game it's based on was massive during it's era, it's about making doujin for comiket.
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Sad-ist, a popular animator and YouTuber with 3 million subscribers, residing in both the Dream SMP and Stanley parables fandoms, is being accused of grooming. In a night, her entire discord staff turned against her for sending her NSFW animations to minors aged 16-17. All alleged.
She was extremely popular and influential in the DSMP fandom, with tens of millions of views on all of her animations, the YouTubers involved being close friends with her and reacting to her videos. I suspect there’s lingering jealousy due to her basically being the irl embodiment of a fanfic self insert who’s art is loved by all her fav YouTubers. Mr beast uses her art for banners for crying out loud. Ethan Becker, another cow, made a video on copying her style.
Link one, mods:
https://x.com/spacuuu/status/1861971168007434359Link two, callout doc:
https://x.com/zennipede/status/1861873799366676781Link three, skinwalking:
https://youtu.be/uCwrYiU54ZM?si=FMcOfnxLY9dsn8H6 Link four, most popular animation, 32m views:
https://youtu.be/MPiILYNStd8?si=Aqcox_FxdY9AqiXQ No. 2281793
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>>2281763>Be chronically online horny teenager>Share yaoi porn with friends>Group cancel anyone who looks at you funny>Become a chronically online “adult” (aka turn a day over 18)>Never mentally mature>Keep sharing yaoi >Get cancelled by underage bpd-chans for whichever made up reasonRinse and repeat.
No. 2281799
>>2281645Kek I'm ayrt and I've read Comic Party, I didn't mention it because I didn't think anyone would remember it, it was so stupid but now I'm feeling nostalgic so maybe I will reread it
Thank you for your list anon
No. 2281830
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>>2281645Adding
>Monthly Girls' Nozaki-kunComedy about a girl who has a crush on an oblivious guy who draws professional shoujo comics, she tries to confesses but fucks up due to being nervous so he thinks she's just a fan of his work and she accidentally becomes his manga assistant
No. 2282289
>>2281709KEK zoomies are so manipulative holy shit, this is the same generation that claims kink belongs in pride and that sex work is real work uwu, but suddenly they will cancel 19yos for sending cringe yaoi drawings to 17yos. It's hard to take this type of allegations seriously because you know they genuinely dont care about the nsfw art, they arent mentally distraught because of drawn porn, or even ''groomed'' zoomies are massive coomers, everyone involved in that circle is 100% a TRA who has no problem with mutilating kids and filling their veins with bath HRT. They just found a way to weaponize it against their enemies. They are the profesional
victim generation.
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How do you draw clothes that has weight to it? i see very few artists able to achieve this and i am fascinated when they can pull it off so well.
No. 2282588
>>2282420Is picrel your attempt or an example of the effect you're trying to emulate? Looks pretty good to me.
I think the biggest factor is quantity and size of creases. Generally, the thicker and heavier the fabric, the fewer creases it will have and the less "sharp" they will be. A thinner, lighter fabric will have more creases, tighter bunches, narrower folds, etc.
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>>2281645I would warn about Bakuman being quite misogynist too.
No. 2283576
>>2283513Instagram feels the most "normal", online spaces atm are in general extremely polarized and people are cruel on any platform but I get the least amount of comments there that indicate the commenters are either children or people looking to take my posts in bad faith. Youtube shorts and TikTok are also decent for artists I'd like to say, but they have more children, though you can repost your shorts across all 3 platforms to maximize your reach and see what works best for you.
Twitter seems up in arms atm, I didn't think bsky would make a dent in it but it seems to be growing fast. Maybe you can jump on the bluesky train while it's still new and growing and see if you can garner an audience while there's less people trying to catch fish.
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Normally I hate it when artists use a shit ton of filters on their art, but I love how she does it
https://x.com/nanajournal1Does anyone know what kind of filters she uses and how? I can tell from some of her brushes she uses CSP and that's it
No. 2283877
>>2280292Thanks so much for the help
nonnie! I think my art is more suitable for TikTok than any other sort of platform (unfortunately) so I think I'm going to take the plunge. I appreciate you passing on the advice.
>>2281709I think any nonas here making Discord servers should honestly make them strictly 18+. Like yeah I know there's not much difference between a 17 and 18 year old, but this shit is so retarded I wouldn't take the risk. Honestly I'd suggest making servers 21 years old+ if you can. Of course, there's the risk of the age limit being seen by some discord users as a free for all to unleash newfound levels of gooner-ism never seem before, but that might be preferable to being accused of grooming online. Either that or just ban all semblance of sexuality from the server, which is surprisingly hard with how much coomer shit is normalized in art anyways.
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>>2274935Lol, I'm having trouble with this one JP artist (Sagami Jon) too.
The art style is so bara (even did character designs for some bara game, I think) but they also draws het porn where the guy is the main focus, with the woman sometimes domming him (granted, both women and dickgirls but still).
Just scroll through their gallery and guess if it's either a gay scrote with small bi leanings or a straight fujo poisoned by bara manga.
No. 2284035
>>2275636>DarkChibiShadowOh God, this woman. She's a fujo TIF in her 30s who does weird porn with an incredibly unerotic art style.
But instead of finding her cringe, I find her kind of endearing. Her little pet projects are kind of mid (I've read/played them), but I can somehow feel the passion and enthusiasm radiating off from it.
Wish I had her brand of motivation and (unashamed) autism, TIFness aside.
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>>2279991On top of my head from Xitter:
• @GodsstationSTL
• @Hamlet_Machine
• @miyuliart
Ngl, I kinda see your point. I follow so many artists but these are the ones that (somewhat) focus mainly on cute boys.
No. 2284304
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Troons already making this about themselves and not the """victims""". Whelp, another one bites the dust, this was truly our… Dreamsmp
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when I read this I couldn't help but picture those dumb drawn-on financial chart projections that crypto bros love
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Federated art hosting instances are killing themselves to avoid the owners getting on the same registry a lot of their users are already squatting
No. 2285001
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>>2284425No, Comic Party is something else entirely. It's based on a 1999 visual novel made by Leaf, who were the pioneers in making visual novels mainstream during the early 2000s. You know the moe art style a bunch of high schoolers are using rn? You can thank the main artist of this game for popularizing that. If you're as autistic about anime art history as I am, it's a worth a watch for that alone. I've always hoped to see the OG game translated.
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>>2274935A man could never draw a woman in a swimsuit with proportions this normal. Also her poses aren't overly sexual, she just seems like she draws pretty boys because she likes them and the muscles are just love of the craft and admiration for the form. I had to scroll down until her 2021 art before I saw something that felt risque solely for sexual gratification. I often draw sketchy dynamic poses as well, it's just something you do when you love drawing bodies. It feels good to be able to draw a certain pose you haven't drawn before, or to be able to physically feel your improvement by drawing a complicated pose in 2 minutes or less. Making fully fledged drawings looks neat, and it's good for the portfolio but drawing a bunch of rough sketches in 30 minutes can feel more personally gratifying.
No. 2285166
>>2285152I think the one you're referring to is baraag.net but there's also lots of other mastodon groups filled with pedos, zoos and nazis (some of them overlapping). They need better moderation on there wtf
Back to baraag it's insane to me that artists like that mossa pedo can still have thousands of followers including industry professionals and post on sites like that. Bleak
No. 2285220
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Any recommendations of people on youtube who do live draws / speed draws of manga pages? Maybe some comic artists if they're really good. I enjoy watching Naoki Urasawa's Manben but would like to see some digital manga done on CSP or other programs.
No. 2285688
>>2285386Sorry for my retardation but I don't get your reply. Are you implying I was a member there? I only know Aethy because some people from it followed me (I don't use Mastodon anymore, but I was just on the main .social group) and looked up what was that instance. Apparently that day there was an uproar because the mod told people to not make pedo/zoo/necrophile pride stuff and the members got offended because they "wouldnt" act on it irl so they had the right to mot be labelled as mentally ill kek.
>>2285166Yeah that was that one. Unfortunately the moderation is "correct" as the people who create the serves are probably degenerate themselves so they think it's ok.
No. 2286016
>>2285007God, as someone who used to do femdom art, I’m so glad that I don’t have to walk on eggshells anymore. Sometimes I let people assume that I’m a shitposting moid because I’d rather not fulfill the social obligation of performing the “nlog hentai waifu” schtick.
I’ve always admired bishoujo artists because they seem so passionate about the craft even if the work they do is male oriented. It’s really hard to find similar female artists that are interested in anime art for the sake of the craft. That and people that get their artistic influence from 2000s galge games will put you on their twitlonger after a few interactions.
No. 2286115
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Why can’t these people just call their sexy waifu oc a girl and call it a day kek
No. 2286179
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>>2286115>draw a woman with a vagina and visible breasts in a relationship with a male.>call her a boy or "nonbinary"Literally, what is the point of this? They always make the very obviously male character a TIF, too. Why go through all the trouble just to draw a heterosexual couple with extra steps? Picrel is probably the most obnoxious example of this for me.
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>>2286223KEK. I'm praying for this tranny trend to die out already. 10 years ago and these people would've been calling these characters girls from the get-go. Anyways, kind of related, Ari confirmed that her show is going to be 18+? The characters are in high school, right? What could the "mature content" be?
No. 2286346
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>>228631399% sure she means actual mature topics. I'm unsure if they'll be handled well but, I don't think it'll be hazbin-tier. Also, they've got wearable merchandise now (just a shirt, but it's something).
https://shockwave-animation-shop.fourthwall.com/products/iweyg-34-chainsaw-kate-34-t-shirt No. 2286460
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>>2286324Saying this as a white person, but I always wonder if the same people also champion white people not looking like all the other regular anime characters but them instead being the only one having a wonky face and big nose like picrel, to represent our white ethnic features. I'm fairly sure they'd just stutter that you can't be reverse racist to white people and then their brains would shut down.
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>>2286514>>2286460I personally find it kind of cute as a white person with a massive schnoz.
No. 2286640
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Figured this was worth posting. Used to follow this guy's work when I realized he was a league of legends splash artist about 7 some years ago. He would would regularly disappear and come back but his most recent hiatus was probably the longest. Appears to have gotten roped in as a rave gear/merch artist. Vague, sad titles to all the recent videos. His art has noticeably taken a nosedive in quality. Shakey lines and loli bullshit with color vomit. Nowadays I'm pretty distrustful of moids that have a gallery that's 99% girls as it is, but I didn't realize I was still subscribed to him. He was recently offering paid classes for $250 that only 1/100 spots have been taken. Comments on his videos are
sus of it being a hacker but I'm certain it's him and he's just desperate for money. It's also funny because he built up his channel on offering all of this info for free for years, like this might have gone over better had he posted like 4+ years ago.
Here's some relevant links with slight milk in the yt comments:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=839NyNLx8K0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SOBvRZanTchttps://knkldaily.gumroad.com/l/BeautifulCharacterDesign No. 2286668
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>>2286527I think this one is fair, it's similar to how they'd draw themselves too
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>>2286527by the 17th century semi-realistic styles had actually become much more common in japan, picrel is a better example of how the japanese compared themselves to western people
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>>2286438Based on the promotional material they've released so far, the animation quality will probably be fine. I'm willing to forgive whatever jankiness there is since it's an indie project. I am worried about the voice acting, though.
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>>2286236She could be including the timeskips where they're adults too, which makes me concerned because she's mentioned multiple times a plotline where Kate gets in a years long relationship with and engaged to a predatory older moid, who ends up cheating on her with a younger girl.
Also jesus kek, even in a cartoon the ML hits the wall so early
No. 2286858
>>2286236Why does useless garbage like this get greenlit while artists with actual skills and style get ignored by fucking normie faggots obsessed with goyslop?
I pretty much just answered my own question Prison planet theory being proven right every single day
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>>2286236I know it's exaggerated cartoon humor, but I feel a bit bad for the "mean girl" in this artwork. She teased her for wearing jorts and got a very heinous-looking trashcan dumped on her in return. Or maybe Kate overreacting/being an asshole is the point, idk kek. It seems like the worst the popular girls have been portrayed doing is just making mildly snarky comments about clothes. Either Brujoari doesn't know what bullying is like, doesn't intend to portray it, or is saving it for the comic/cartoon.
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Nonas is this artist going by anomalybroccoli using AI? Or tracing art?
This person keeps sharing art in a discord I'm in and promotes and sells it to others. I got a little suspicious because the top 2 are posted with only 2 days apart and look fairly detailed, but it's not like it's impossible to draw it in just 2 days. Checking their instagram their art quality is too awkward/lacks fundamentals even for AI, so I brushed it off at first. But it's still so… inconsistent? Like how do you draw the top if you can't even draw a simple chibi?
No. 2286940
>>2286937Playing the devil's advocate here for a second, knowing how to draw everything else doesn't exactly mean you're able to draw a good chibi. I've met many artists who are able to pump out fully rendered complex pieces but are unable to create something deformed and stylized enough to make a good chibi.
That aside, the pic on the upper right corner looks photobashed. I'm not so sure about AI though.
No. 2286980
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>>2286937It looks like you've come across the old school version of rendermaxxing (picrel). Not everything awkward looking is the result of AI or tracing and her art is too consistent for that, what you have come across is someone who knows how to render but lacks a good understanding of construction and form, depending on symbol drawing instead, you can see this in all her art with a background. Top right reminds me of the way glip used to draw and she was absolutely horrendous with form.
The artist seems Indonesian/Malaysian which could explain why she has such overly detailed backgrounds and characters because it all looks very similar to Indonesian and Malay traditional art and sculpture.
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>>2286980Here's a good example of what I'm talking about, the background is most likely referenced (which is fine) but the depth seems a bit wonky and those towers are very curvy. The subjects are like a sticker over the top, the owl is extremely flat and lacks form and is also landing at a awkward angle onto a flat arm, and I could go on and on. I think she has potential, she's just in a awkward stage that a lot of good study could break her out of.
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>>2286937I don't think it's AI but that they trace over a photo and use stamp brushes a lot. You just don't go from making detailed realistic human bodies with clothes and wolf faces to… a 12 year olds first chibi attempt. You can see in the pieces that have backgrounds that the backgrounds are a different style than the characters (either way too much detail or way too little detail) and the perspective doesn't match because the artist doesn't actually know how to draw backgrounds on their own.
No. 2287244
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>>2286994Kind of funny how she changed Kate from a girly girl to a tomboy but then her timeskip art and nsfw account turn her into a hyperfeminine sexy bimbo as an adult, seems like she wants to have her cake (nlog weirdgirl tomboy) and eat it too (girly bimbofied waifu), but just recreated a common trope where the girl ends up conforming in some way.
Also this is just >>>/snow/2055394 and constellor/penporo’s arc in kakyoin oc form kek No. 2287257
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>>2287244Oh my god, yes. Ari herself even talks about how much she liked making Kate a tomboy, so the whole thing about future Kate being a "hyper sexy bimbo" is so goddamn obnoxious. She still wants Kate to get a titchop when she's older, too! Look at how flat she is here. I genuinely can't understand her brain. She obviously wants to sexualize adult Kate, so she has a porn account where she draws her with a large chest, but she still gives her a mastectomy when she's old? What's the point?
No. 2287311
>>2287257Brujo Ari is trying to put a regular teenage tomboy, big titty waifu, and heckin
valid gay trans boy kakyoin all into the one oc she’s obsessed with and it’s turning out as retarded as expected. If Brujo becomes obsessed with some trope or archetype, she will try to force it onto Kate, basically.
No. 2287478
>>2287311>Brujo Ari is trying to put a regular teenage tomboy, big titty waifu, and heckin valid gay trans boy kakyoin all into the one oc she’s obsessedKEKKKK, Jesus this bitch kinda gives me way less degenerate Fanny vibes. Pseudo woke themlets obsessed with their shitty OCS (in Ari's case muh heterofied Jojo yaoi) writing them as ooc as they please as long as it serves the coom or the performativism, and their kinks are always just misogyny. These kinda "TIFs" who literally just draw the most curvalicious women and caption it something like
>look at this BOY!!!!!!!just come off as so bored, like they're itching for some evil
TERF to come argue about how that's not a boy in the comments but no1currs except their fellow theyfab circlejerk.
No. 2287592
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>>2286966She has no actual clue how aging works. (also kek at 27 she gave the ML wrinkles and gross patchy stubble while Kate gets a round chin and enlarged tits & ass)
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>Thought it was a moid from the ugly top right art and unhinged tweet about wanting to kill a 17 year old girl with hammers
>it was tif-on-tif violence this whole time
Depending on if her bf is a moid, I can only assume this is some cringy pickme nlog shit, regardless the only people who’d want to be around this kind of person are 4chan moids or similarly edgy tifs. How do girls end up like this?
No. 2288593
>>2288556before someone suggests it, dont be outwardly terfy on your account. TIMs dont care and will find it as an incentive to hate follow/troonwash your art out of spite rather than be repelled because they are male at their core and always need to barge into spaces they are not welcome in. You can try shaking them off by drawing women with adult proportions and mature themes; avoid following trends and drawing trope characters since trannies are especially attracted to trope characters rather than OCs with existing characterization. Being cold and not allowing for parasocial relationships with your following also discourages trannies attempting to butter you up into drawing "girlcock". If you still have trannies on your tail, do
not engage with them, do not even look at their posts, do not like, respond or acknowledge to it. Even lie about having your notifs off for non-mutuals as an excuse as to why you dont read comments. It sucks that we have to take all these precautions just to post what we want, but hopefully with the surplus of goonerslop hentai artists trannies will get distracted and leave us alone for just a little while ugh…
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>>2288602I really can't get over this design kek
No. 2288687
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>>2288651Nta but there are for some blind box bjds, that I've seen. These centaur ones are super cute imo
No. 2288703
>>2288687Woof, Those are made of shit materials and mass produced in factories with near existent QC and are fucking up the hobby.
>>2288686How is that being dense? She could digitally sculpt her dolls and print and sell them as blanks (or just sell the .stl files) but you can't really do a "line" as a BJD artist. Typically traditionally casted resin BJD usually don't come with clothing and accessories unless it's a full set (which are almost always limited runs and small batches)
The focus here seems like it's on the clothing and accessories so unless she put a disproportionate amount of time and effort not commonly seen among sculptors she couldn't really have a "line" like playline dolls have
No. 2288944
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>>2276574>>2276611>>2276956>>2277062update on the situation but genice remains unbothered while juby is still sperging on social media about how "evil and narcissistic" her ex-friend that she wont name drop unless you watch her livestream pls subscribe. if theres one thing juby was right about shes good at P.R cause genice is hardly giving the sperge the light of day KEK
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>>2288944This made me go check on Juby and KEK she’s still going. Is this a jab at Genice doing work for
Trigger or something?
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Where do you get commissions? I got the skill(at least according to my friends) I just dont know where to post to get clients
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>>2286460Found one in the wild, it literally just looks like a caricature. No anime character has a nose that massive, by doing this you're calling them out as different or odd, it's the same shit you see in anti Chinese or Japanese propaganda cartoons.
No. 2289184
>>2289120How the fuck is she STILL going? Girl it's been weeks, she never even published her supposed OC plagiarism. How the fuck are you this pressed about something that was never even made public to begin with?
>fill it with something beyond work and accoladesThat definitely reeks of jealousy of someone younger and more successful than her. I wanna hear Genice's side so bad.
No. 2289218
>>2289171Social media mostly.
>>2289141>>2289184Definitely jealous that her younger peer is doing much better than herself. This is probably the only thing she has against her so she'll milk this forever. She also mentioned she can't draw much right now so not being able to work on her own project for whatever reason while genice presumably got pretty far with her own similar thing should make the seething worse.
>>2277062Just saw this tweet again kek it's so telling how she didn't even bother to find that person's handle but still went ahead and reposted
No. 2289240
>>2289235They need to have ball-and-socket joints
and be strung with cording or elastic. Post a picture of a playline doll in any BJD community and you'll get laughed at.
No. 2289251
>>2288703Just because they're shitty doesn't mean they are not part of it.
GK recasts and bootlegs figures are still figures despite being shit, 90% of the population isn't as autistic as you and they don't care.
No. 2289264
>>2289240>>2289248Can you stop being retarded for one second? We're not talking about playline, we're saying bjds definitely have lines.
>what is the point of trying to define a label for a specific thing and then people try to shove unrelated things into it?The point is they're not unrelated and do fit into the label. Why are all bjdfags such insufferable retards who claim nothing but their personal favorite Korean brand of ugly looking yaoi elves is the only REAL type of bjd?
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>>2289318I just checked her account and it seems to be pretty tame with no explicit art. Still, I would not be surprised if her show comes out, minors discover this account, and they start trying to cancel her for her nsfw art even though the version of Kate she is drawing on her nsfw art is legal age (you can tell because her tits are round and not pointy like high school Kate). It might be kinda stupid but it sounds possible, even if the cancellation attempts wouldn't really work.
Off-topic, here are some troon tears I obtained from the tiktok account royalsnis's comic. Drawing your TIF girlfriend as cis has got to be one of the funniest ways to be transphobic I have seen so far.
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>>2289176On another note, I also found the original design behind this one pretty ugly. (Well, the skirt/cape by itself is nice.)
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>>2288598Ignoring the price issue and assuming everything was possible, my quirky ass thinks the idea is fun but I don't actually like the execution.
I understand she wants to see different body types represented as a larger woman herself, but I think they'd look better if they were more uniform, and it would make swapping their clothes easier and more fun. They should all be horses/the same animal, not a goat and a cow thrown in here and there. You can do an all goat line expansion later and give them their own magical twist. I also honestly doubt (if she's going for a kids market) any little girl is going to go "omg I finally get a fat girl who is a literal cow, just like me!" like girl- that's not gonna help lmao saying this as a former chubby kid, I gave 0 fucks about dolls being fat and I would have been so insulted if anyone insisted I had to play with fat toys "like me". That would have messed with my self-image more than any anorexic-skinny Barbie doll ever could!
Honestly also think they need to be less unique in their fashion senses. Instead of doing "cowgirl cow" and "asian street fashion horse" they should at the core all pander to the same human taste, and instead just come with a light flavor of each unique style. Like how bratz dolls all managed to have unique styles for each doll character while they all still clearly have the "bratz style". That style could then be swapped around for different series/sets so you could give them all a cowboy look, but that one horse has a slightly more streetwear twist to hers, and another has cutesy florals added etc. Right now nothing is really tying them together as unit.
And lastly their clothes are a bit too sexy/porny. Garter belts is definitely not it for a kids line, and even for adults, it comes off as lingerie meant to be sexy which isn't something you want for a line that walks around with their ass hanging out in the open. It should be changed to look more like whatever horse belts/garlands are called.
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>>2289973Instead of adults she could make them tweens and give them slightly pudgy bodies that would blend well with the chunky horse legs. Or have an adult line with a younger line with less defined bodies that are more pudgy with baby fat. I honestly think they would look cute if they were aged down and had more cutsey children's clothing than adults with themed outfits. I'm imagining something like emerald the enchanting witch(picrel) or whatever it was called but with a chubby pony body. It would fit her vintage style better as well.
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>>2289973She’s late to the party, monster high already has obese characters
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>>2290391oh god imagining all the pus and fecal discharge on the giver's face after digging into the stink ditch. horrifying
No. 2291051
>>2290158I don’t get why these people don’t just create butch lesbian ocs
(I know, it’s misogyny). It’s infinitely less retarded, is arguably more “groundbreaking” because butch ocs aren’t as popular as “trans boy” ocs, and you’ll still have orbiters to rally around you when people insult your oc for “looking too masculine”. I guess a downside for them is you can’t call it yaoi. But you could probably do it as a joke and it’d still sound more sensible than what Brujoari did
No. 2291721
>>2290594but anon.. kate doesn't have a stink ditch
>>2289404>you can tell because her tits are round and not pointy like high school Katekekkkkkk
No. 2292980
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How do i get rid of bad habits? i learned how to draw thanks to a certain teacher and now i want to reset my brain because i feel i developed bad habits thanks to him
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https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2318710063Juby still seething and this time actively wishing hardship on genice as well as saying if she says a single thing about the conflict publicly, she will drag her, as well as mentioning people who are following her still and feeding her information. She REALLY wants genicecream isolated, I wonder why she doesn't just go for the callout atp? I feel like it's only a matter of time if this is the kind of shit she's fantasizing about.
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>>2292984>someone fashioning their main character after you and your Experiences..This main character? It’s a cute asian girl with bangs kek. This oc is Korean like Juby, so it makes me wonder if Genice’s oc is Chinese like Genice(or at least east asian), and any perceived similarities are just because the characters are both east asian girls in a fauxnime style.
An argument she could have is experiences, but I wouldn’t be surprised if she and Genice had some kind of overlap because they’re both east asian female artists (living in the west) who used be friends. She even describes her project here
>>2277926 as something that helped her
>learn to love myself through severe depression and becoming disabled.>disabled being “I just experience a lot of emotional pain to a physically crippling degree. A part of it is also severe autistic burnout haha”This can describe so many fucking artists kek. You can even argue majority of artists are disabled due to mental disorder or fucking up their arms. What if Genice was basing her character off herself and naturally got inspired by her older mentor too?
No. 2293325
>>2293019There's nothing to say kek. There would be no point in tweeting about drama that maybe a few hundred people are aware of, especially when the subject is a comic that's not even out yet.
>>2292980Stop when you notice that you're doing it
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I feel like she lurks the board or this is a very common question because I remember a nonna asking if she draws anyone besides her main ocs or who isn't attractive.
No. 2294203
>>2294008She’s probably mad at herself for taking so long in comparison, it sounds like Genicecream took her own project more seriously.
>>2292984I wish we could actually see what Genicecream’s project looks like, I’d like to know this secret account.
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>>2293867reading up her old call out and wow juby is acting 1-to-1 on how she behaved
3 years ago. The exact unsubtle way of deflecting blame onto her friend and being the one trying to make it work but the friend was "too crazy". what a fucking narc, i can only hope that Genice gets a
trigger project out of "Edens Gate" and makes juby seethe harder KEK
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>>2293867Thanks for linking the thread, this is incredibly interesting and leaves no doubt in my mind that Juby is just crafting a narrative that serves her. I'm dying to know what Genice has to say about it but I doubt she would say anything unless Juby forcefully drags her into a public twitter spat, genicecream seems too professional for all of that, meanwhile Juby just straight up cannot control herself.
No. 2294363
>>2294341I think she's trying to bait genice into saying something, she said in that twitch stream how if she says even a single thing that she will jump on her and drag her, that she wants everyone to know how horrible and sociopathic genicecream is but she doesn't want twitter drama because it's a "bad crowd". Meanwhile she keeps repeating herself over and over, the same shit, about how she's such a
victim and she's too nice, etc etc… it HAS to be bait, it just has to, she's crafting this narrative, pre-emptively planting in everyone's head that genice is actually literally satan incarnate so that less people will take her seriously and will jump to her defense if she DOES try to defend herself. I'd be more willing to give Juby the benefit of the doubt if SHE gave genice ANY semblance of nuance in her claims, trying at all to empathize with her and how this may have happened, but she's just completely discrediting her and making her out to be the worst of the worst. That's not what a
victim does kek that's what a bpdemon on the warpath does. In fact,
victims are often the ones being tricked like this into thinking everything is their fault, I feel bad for genice, I hope she doesn't take the bait.
No. 2294374
>>2294363samefag but in the stream she also mentioned how she would start tweaking if she was put in a position where she had to present evidence because she KNOWS she's the
victim and doesn't wanna have to prove it to anyone, despite the fact she's relentlessly dragging her on twitter and bsky and straight up namedropping her to her stream viewers? yeah nah, girl you stank.
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>>2294374KEK so she just doesn't have evidence and that's why she's not making a callout? It's kind of crazy that no one she's burned has made one on her yet. Sounds like she's always badmouthing
someone.
>>2294284That thread also has screenshots of her ranting about Marvel while working for them, she really can't stop herself once she starts feeling upset.
No. 2296181
>>2293867>>2294263this old drama clearly shows what kind of person juby is. in
>>905827 jayd laid out events in the order they happenened. while juby made a bunch of accusations with no evidence except "trust me bro". she claimed jayd was so
abusive, but then wrote that jayd didn't go to a convention when she heard juby would be there, avoiding her "like she was a live weapon" hmmm. based on juby's past and current behavior, my tinfoil is she stole ideas from genice. it seems like if anyone brings up an issue with her, she flips shit and tries to turn everyone against them. she does damage control by completely discrediting the person she's hurt before they can say anything.
No. 2296385
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>>2296181Kek wtf, what a creep
No. 2296524
>>2294415Wait. Is Juby here raging that Marvel wouldn't pay for her time to get COVID tested? Most employers didn't wtf is she on about???
Truly an unbearable personality. Every time I consider getting into an art community online I see people like Juby and immediately retreat from the idea. I just wanna chill and draw with people without retarded sperging about "you stole muh idea/oc/art style!!!1!".
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I don't know if this is the right thread for this, or if fandom discourse would be better or something else. Anyways, I think Velinxi's art is generally pretty good, and I actually really like her dvattra stuff for the most part. But the way her and her orbiter cronies joke about them being lesbians or ramattra being butch is just incredibly cringe to me. I feel like I've noticed other artists who have a similar shit sense of humor where gay terms = funny/quirky, and it's just incredibly annoying. It comes off as a massive cope so they can laugh off being into a straight ship, because they'd be seen as lame for being genuine about it.
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>>2296524>Is Juby here raging that Marvel wouldn't pay for her time to get COVID tested?By “tests” she’s referring to artwork kek, it’s like how companies may ask artists for animation tests before hiring them.
Tbf I understand wanting to be paid for your work as an artist, especially by a company like disney/marvel, and this was part of a larger thread where she said they pay artists poverty wages and they hadn’t sent her pay for work she submitted 2 months ago. So I can’t fault her for calling out big companies(because those companies can exploit other artists too), but where she crosses the line is trying to tear down other artists and affect their livelihoods. She treats them with the same level of vindictiveness as powerful evil abusers or multibillion-dollar corporations, when they’re just regular working people(and her former
friends) she had some arguments with.
No. 2297257
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>>2297240Pretty sure mary is polnareff iirc. Also there was a female avdol character at one point, not sure what happened to her
No. 2297326
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>>2297257I don't think Mary is Polnareff. Mary is probably based on Jolyne's mom in Stone Ocean. She's a pretty blonde girl with blue eyes.
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What is it with twitterfags being so condescending about this shit? I agree the art doesn't entirely look like Mel (not that you need to match characters' appearances exactly in the first place), but the artist was taking in the criticism and even apologizing while people are still assblasting her in the quotes. The art from the person quote retweeting isn't even that good so where is this pretentiousness even coming from?
No. 2297430
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>>2297392Shit like this is so embarrassing, and quote retweets like this usually come from people that don't even draw. They've even started attacking black artists over stuff like this. I've seen this girl get so much shit because she didn't draw every single tiny microbraid in Elphaba's head, even though it's obvious this is just a sketch.
No. 2297459
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>>2297448Exactly. The amount of retards scolding her for not drawing all of those small braids and yelling at her to use one of those shitty braid pattern brushes like they wouldn't clash with her style was so obnoxious. She knows how to draw braids. Twittards just want to be nitpicky bitches.
No. 2297480
>>2297457Enlighten us on what shows the average black person will only watch since you’re convinced you that black people don’t watch shows like arcane or are in nerdy fandom spaces.
list off the ones the “average black person” watches
No. 2297493
>>2297480Probably Tom and Jerry or Dragon Ball or some normie shit like the average person in every community.
Kek I really don't want to die on this hill so whatever
No. 2297551
>>2288598Marketing these to children is weird. Centaurs aren't popular fantasy creatures amongst children. The kind of kids who will pick up a centaur toy are the ones who are really into mythology, and those kinds of kids will find the modern fashion off-putting
why does every fantasy doll nowadays insist on using modern fashion? Horse girls are also going to find this off-putting, since they just want to play with regular horse toys. And kids into fashion would rather dress up a human doll because their clothes looks more "real".
But I can see this being popular amongst adult collectors. I'm personally not into this but I gotta admit it is a fun concept
No. 2297668
>>2297551>why does every fantasy doll nowadays insist on using modern fashion?Hasn't that always been the case? Fashion dolls are supposed to dress… fashionly, and what is considered cool is whatever clothes are trendy/modern at that time.
I wasn't a fan of human-shapped toys when I was a kid besides Bratz though, so I'm not very knowledgeable. But I have always seen dolls are trying to be modern, not many kids would find appealing clothes that their grandma wore, even if trends are circular.
No. 2297981
>>2297668I had many princess and fairy dolls that had ball-gowns or leaf inspired dresses stuff l. It definitely was contemporary takes on dresses like that, but they they didn't use accessories like sunglasses, belts and miniskirts. To be fair princess dolls like that
did exist when I was a kid, I just didn't care for them lol.
(incoming autism) Amongst the centaur dolls, I think the Marigold character is a good mix of contemporary and fantasy elements. She is covered in flowers, which is expected from a mythological creature associated with nature. And she has some design elements which feels vaguely rococo (pastel colors, corset and necklace) which invokes a feeling of the past. This is the sort of things I would look after in fantasy toys as a kid. While obviously modern, it still would have felt like something that could pass as historical in my child mind. I didn't know what rococo was as a child, but what I did know was that design elements like this, reminded me of old paintings.
The Minerva character on the other hand feels too contemporary. She is inspired by eerie forests, Sleepy Hollow and autumn, but I'm seeing
none of those elements. Why is she wearing a crop top? Eerie girls who live in the forest don't do that
also the outfit used for inspiration is kinda coomerish. Though doll itself isn't coomerish to be fair The same goes for the Nara character. The thai elements are cool, but nothing about her says tropical jungle, which is a shame because tropical jungles are beautiful. Tropical jungles are also known for being vibrant and colorful and the characters colors look so muted compared to the jungle pictures.
Basically, you could give these two characters human legs and put them in any other setting. While the other characters at least have design elements that tell us what sort of environment they are from. Though Marigold is the only one who has a nature-y/"ethereal" feel to her. So for me, in order to make a fantasy fashion doll, instead of a modern fashion doll, elements from nature should be used (even if it's just something simple as adding flowers) and inspiration from historical clothing should be taken.
No. 2298042
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How should traditional artists get pictures of their work? Scanning or camera? I want to keep doing watercolor
No. 2298770
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>>2297392>The art from the person quote retweeting isn't even that goodThat's putting it lightly kek
No. 2298888
>>2298770I am begging for some Asian artist to pull this art up and start calling this person racist. I wanna see a reverse uno cancellation situation so bad kek
>>2298409Ayrt, I also wish I was bold enough to do terfy art. I don't put pronouns or sex in my bio but I have to in art discord channels which makes me feel like a coward. Last time I tried to dodge the question they needled me until I gave in. I really hope I can at least get away with making zero trans or nb characters without anyone questioning me
No. 2298956
>>2298888>>2298409You guys sound kind of crazy. I don't put pronouns in my bio and the most I'll get is one or two anon asks a year that I can just ignore. People only ask for them in public discords because knowing how to refer to someone correctly makes communication between strangers easier. None of the people I've been in private discords with asked for them.
>>2298409>Radfem is when the man is submissiveYou need to stop browsing here kek
No. 2298965
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>>2298770I'm not trying to racebait here, but it's so awkward when people randomly give anime characters darker skin or racebend them. It's obviously virtue signaling. Nobody can say anything about it without being called racist so everyone has to pretend that these racebent characters are completely the same as fanart with the canon designs. I normally wouldn't have a problem with this at all but these same people will dogpile artists for drawing a darker skinned character with slightly different skin tone from the colorpicked hex codes. They also will get mad if other people don't draw the racebent fanon version of a character instead of the canon version. It's really just awkward trying to navigate around the racial obsession.
No. 2298975
>>2297551Here's all I'll say on the matter. Whenever these topics come up, whether on twitter, here or otherwise. How people view whitewashing and raceswap have two different reactions. People come up with excuses and scenarios where whitewashing a character is okay, even if it doesn't fit a such a scenerio i.e: "It's just lighting, oh that's the artist style, it's pastels, they're not comfortable yet drawing xyz." whatever. Meanwhile people argue why raceswaps shouldn't exist period.
At this point in fandom, we've already kind of shrugged our shoulder at all the numerous ways fanart transforms the original work. Drawing characters especially children as more developed than they are, more muscular, or just straight up like pornifiying them, giving them different hairstyles, different facial shapes, furry version, AU-versions, ectera- That going "I draw a line at the raceswaping" looks hypocritical. Especially when everyone was drooling over Brazilian Miku not even a few months ago.
No. 2300052
>>2297392>kpop pfpI fucking guarantee you this person is either white or some asian person who is at MOST mixed yet light skinned that lives in a nice suburb raised by parents they call
abusive over telling them to do chores or getting angry about them performing subpar at school, and they probably live in Portland or New York or California or some other blue state in an area where they don't actually have to interact with black people, because I swear to god it's people like that who are always the most holier-than-thou about this shit, always bragging about how educated they are despite being extremely sheltered and naive.
No. 2300253
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>>2298965>Nobody can say anything about it without being called racist so everyone has to pretend that these racebent characters are completely the same as fanart with the canon designs.I don’t think it’s that one sided (though it never was, just remember what happened with nessa). Recently there was a lot of backlash to this girl’s fanart for a few days. Look at the likes on the top 2 posts, 372k, 202k, which outnumber the likes on people supporting the girl by far. You can imagine what the rest of the comments to her are like.
I don’t think a 16 year old girl deserves this much hate on something she likely thought was a fun trend she saw other people doing, this was an overreaction built up from years of drama and will only encourage hypervigilance on opposite sides. Everyone is too reactionary.
(Personally I’m of the camp that prefers to see more black ocs, don’t really care for blackwashing especially when the most frequent subjects are shounenslop. Focusing on ocs seems like the best of both worlds, plus it means less hate from trolls and you’re spending your energy on your own creations instead of series made by misogynist moids who will never be inclusive like you want)
No. 2300284
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>>2300253Yeah this sucks for her. Honestly I don't get why people keen on diversity bother investing so much time into things like anime or genshin or whatever since it's the opposite of diverse.
I agree that I would prefer people make their own OCs rather than racebend existing character. But I also think a lot of OCs are genuinely irritating because they are made to virtue signal and suck in pretty much every other aspect. I have a few major pet peeves:
- the most random fucking race mixes ever. If the point is representation why not go for something more possible?
- vitiligo, esp for characters based on animals. Given that "cow" is a common insult for kids with vitiligo, maybe this isn't the best route. Bonus points if the vitiligo is extremely inaccurate.
- characters that are literally just their disabilities, fashion sense and nothing else. Bonus points if the disability in question is written inaccurately.
Picrel is actually a human version of Rain (a horse) from the Spirit movie, to illustrate the inaccurate vitiligo virtue signaling. I am not a medfag but I am pretty sure this is not how this works.
No. 2300302
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>>2300253Also Okarun’s english va, AJ Beckles, changed his pfp to black Okarun to support the artist, then changed it again the next day because of harassment.
NGL I think it’s cowardly a grown man can’t even stand by a teenage girl as she’s being harassed, while his gf/fellow dandadan va, Anairis Quinone, changed her pfp to brown Momo and still has it that way despite her qrts and mentions being full of trolls + her own boyfriend wimping out. The original artist even unlocked her account too. But this man can’t handle the hate? Alright lol.
No. 2300396
>>2300253I think (any)bending is dumb when the artist is pushing an agenda but I can't help but feel like situations like this give racists trolls free reign to attack black people in the open without getting any kick back. It would be one thing if the racebending artist had a smug attitude or claimed she was 'fixing' someone else's art. It's also funny how western weebs are getting hyped over "Japanese" users getting fed up as if white guys haven't been google translate asianfishing for years.
I agree that making OC is the best course of action, but it isn't a perfect solution. We're to the point where OCs and completely original projects are overlooked or being labeled as woke garbage for even having black or brown characters without any troon or gender shit in sight. Anti-wokes don't care about anything that isn't pure untainted white nipponese and wokies will attack if your OCs aren't disabled, fat or trans enough for them. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
No. 2300463
>>2300396I don't think there's an issue when people wanna draw anime characters to look black so long as they make them look like normal fucking people, but then on the other hand it's so obvious when people are virtue signaling. I don't think that 16 year old was virtue signaling though as the characters look normal as normal can be, I think the worst I can read into that is her seeing her friends doing similar things and wanting to be like them since that's just what teenagers do.
Also I think the only reason Japanese people are getting upset is because they keep getting harassed, otherwise they stay in their own lane. They view us as fucking retarded for always fighting over stuff that could be solved with taking responsibility for curating our own online experiences and racist pedomoids are no exception kek they're like trannies who think they can be the exception when women tell them to gtfo.
No. 2301218
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Spoilered for drawn gore. Thoughts on this? This moid has always kind of creeped me out with his anime girl drawings. This caught my eye as he pointed out the sexualization of these types of characters and mentioned men wanting to be these characters (aka troons.) just kind of interesting to me.
No. 2301252
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>>2301241I think there's definitely a point he's making but being a moid himself he's never gonna full understand how to get the point across. Somewhat unrelated, but it reminds me of this A/N in the manga Inside Mari where he admits to wanting to be a woman but realizing his desires are futile because he will always have a male brain and will never understand what it's like to truly be a woman. Without being able to understand what it feels like to be a woman, those types of drawings will just come off as a quickly consumed Saya no Uta esque aesthetic drawing and won't ever look like anything deeper.
No. 2301266
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>>2301246Samefag. Am I crazy for feeling like the amount of focus on his oc's thighs in this photo is disturbing or what? I don't care about the testimonies of men with feelings of autopedophilia, you will never be an anime child.
No. 2301267
>>2301220At the end of the day, we can all sit at the roundtable and discuss how lolicons are pedophile faggots except when said pedophile faggot wants to transition into the form of a flawless little girl for the explicitly stated reason of being a flawless eternally sexualized little girl, then you're satan for pointing it out. I agree with him but I don't know how he managed to fall just short enough of making that final jump. I don't know if it's because he's a man or a shitheel TRA but probably both
>>2301266>I don't care about the testimonies of men with feelings of autopedophilia, you will never be an anime child.Based
No. 2301374
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>>2301350"I hate lolicons but look at this drawing I made of a little anime girl in thigh highs with her back exposed!" I hate him.
No. 2301416
>>2301220That's a lot of words to justify being a mentally ill lolicon kek
Jokes aside I love his explanation, straight from the horse's mouth. It couldn't be any clearer. Many anons here refuse to believe that moe is actually just a perverted pedo fetish for mentally ill scrotes with AGP and autopedophilic tendencies who live entirely immersed in a world of sexualized cartoons. Not that I'm gonna demonize nonnas for liking some moeshit media, you can like moidy things without pretending it's flawless, but some of them actually can't believe or just don't know about this history. And if you point it out sometimes you get called an anime-tourist-zoomer-anti-go-back-to-Twitter, or some shit. No, I know these things precisely because I've been hanging around otaku communities and read about Japanese anime culture long enough. A lot of these subtleties get lost in translation especially now with social media being so big.
>>2301408kek I also thought it was him at first but then realized he wouldn't be tweeting like an average western Xitter user
No. 2301587
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>>2301585On Twitter? No, not really. The current belief system there now is that "art style theft" isn't real. And the guy can draw stuff in his own style, but only his little anime girl drawings have weird sexual undertones.
No. 2301683
>>2301218>>2301220I used to find him kinda interesting, but after this and finding out that he hates loligooners, I find him so annoying lol. He is being really pretentious, but the worst thing is that he's being hypocritical. I'm tired of this kind of artists that criticize X thing, yet they are incapable of deviating from that shit cuz "haha cute" and they end up pandering the people they desdain.
Since he is like your stereotipical alt gay having identity issues and has some obsession with bald men and blood, so I don't think he is a pedo, but by connecting all the dots I can assume he might be snarky af lol, He might be just like that fucking bara_moe_bitch idiot but with actual skill.
No. 2301689
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>>2300302Samefag, so apparently japanese users have been calling for him(and Anairis at a lesser volume) to be fired as VA. I don’t think it’s anything to take seriously, because firing someone over a twitter fanart pfp would be insanity kek. Notably the left post has over 100k+ likes so far and majority of the retweets appear to be japanese accounts (not larping weebs, though a lot of those seem to be in the comments).
Not sure if this will die down soon or get dragged out till someone gets fucked over, depends how obsessive right-wing japanese men are because they’ve been making “both white and black people are the oppressors of asians” posts alongside this drama. I’m leaning towards total nothingburger though, what can they actually do
No. 2301705
>>2301689>self-centered victim culturekek that's fucking rich coming from the country that plays the
victim when asked to apologize to comfort women from ww2. They always cry about how people who don't understand Japanese culture should back off so why do they think they can speak on on American issues such as the racism black people face? I don't mean to racebait but considering the vtuber gta5 n word trend, they obviously don't know a thing. It's literally just a 16 year old girl's drawing making the characters look like ordinary every day black people, anime is a huge export for Japan, foreigners consuming it is good for their shitty economy.
No. 2301969
>>2301949>It's a beloved classic to YOU because you are attracted / can insert into the characters getting depicted.NTA but I never understood this mindset. Every time I see it I remember how popular MOTHER/Eartbound is in Japan, a game where you play (in the original and sequel game) as an american kid kek.
I'm not a burger, but can american people only enjoy/relate to stories when the characters are the same race/class as you? It feels like that seeing the fanart and discusion I see online. Of course it's cool when the protagonists/characters are similar to you, but any mentally stable person should be able to sympathize with anyone, I don't get the obsession/idea that media needs to be 100% catered to specific groups to be or else you're unable to relate.
No. 2301983
>>2300253>Focusing on ocs seems like the best of both worldsThat's if people care. You have to work harder to build a community around original content while a badly drawn fanart of FOTM gets ten thousand likes. It's no wonder that woke twitter artist jump into the
poc edit trend when it's only thing they have in terms of hooking people in.
>>2301969Arbitrary individualism born out of need for uniqueness is the cancer killing American fandoms. So many burgers want everything to be about them despite swearing up and down that they're open to other cultures only to then fetishize and brutalize anyone from outside their bubble. I'll never trust progressives who's hatred for the "right" kinds of people is justified. In the end, they still consume
problematic media despite acting like they hate it.
No. 2301998
>>2300253What bugs me the most about this whole exchange is not how stupid it is to be upset about the art, but this bit at the top:
>Stop making Asian characters black. we're not Disney characters.What does this fucking
mean? What is the correlation between "Asian characters" and "Disney characters"? Is the intent here that Disney characters = white, which is factually incorrect? None of these characters are real people whose feelings you can hurt by drawing them with another skin tone, and if a real person is offended on behalf of a made-up guy, they should be in a home for the mentally disabled, because they are retarded.
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>>2301218this would be based if he wasn't the very thing he's attempting to criticize
i used to follow him because he's really skilled and there's something wrong with him in a way that's morbidly fascinating. i think he's AGP but self aware enough to not troon out. i can't find it now but i remember him posting a picture of himself wearing a skirt captioned "i can't keep stealing trans girls' aesthetic" or something along the lines.
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>>2302005(3/3)
sorry for the picspam i'm phoneposting
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>>2302001(Spoilered for gore) He’s definitely AGP. He has also mentioned having dysphoria before. With how he views femininity as “impossible”, I think the only thing preventing him from transitioning is his self awareness that he won’t pass.
No. 2302018
>>2301998>>2300253I think he's just saying Disney tends to blackwash random characters for woke points, but the implication that they're somehow erasing japanese representation is so hilariously laughable because no japanese person looks like an anime character, or else they'd all have black hair, black eyes and tinyslanted eyes.
>>2302005He will most definitely troon out, he's just one of those trannies who doesn't want to do it because he knows he'll be uglier as a hon.
No. 2302035
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>>2301689I find it funny that you can see some racist white incels desperately trying to bend over for them after the poster pointed out their involvement lol
No. 2302081
>>2302057I agree somewhat with this, it’s better to make your own OCs but really it’s not like the artist wasn’t making some political statement when she drew that, it’s the chronically online weirdos who did that.
Plus I saw someone else make a good point, it’s rich how you know the same people who get up in arms about changing a character’s skin color have no problem changing a character to suit their own tastes, especially the pornsick tards who give normal female characters larger breasts, change their personalities, etc.. That also goes for the porn doujin creators or even normal fanfic writers, is it not disrespecting the original creator when you do these things? I remember how the publishers of the anime horse show and Frieren made an official notice about porn shit depictions of their characters being forbidden and people got pissed about that and still do it anyway too. It’s all so tiresome.
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>>2302038Ngl the cope they come up with is hilarious, it doesn’t help that white american and european girls in anime typically are actually portrayed with the same faces as japanese girls, just with blonde hair and blue eyes.
No. 2302199
>>2302088I don't think the effects a nuclear bomb would have back then were fully understood, and on that note, the Japanese were pretty on par with the Nazis in terms of atrocities. It's just nobody remembers or cares because of their kawaii-ification psyop. Look it up, Hello Kitty was LITERALLY created to make people forget about all of that and see Japan as less aggressive. Not to racebait, but the Japanese have a need to seem the
victim at all times and go to lengths to make sure people see them as such.
No. 2302204
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>>2302199>I don't think the effects a nuclear bomb would have back then were fully understoodWas also including the fire bombings, but either way it's just kinda funny, especially since helping the economy? Lol I pirate everything.
No. 2302215
>>2302204Yes, fire bombing was a thing, but what the fuck are other countries supposed to do? Decide that the Japanese are the true oppressed
victims and not fight back when they're being attacked? Because it seems like that's what you're saying. Wartime isn't like twitter where you have to decide that the people beating your ass in the quote retweets have a point and you should roll over and apologize. And you aren't the only person in the world, just because you pirate everything doesn't mean everyone else does, and the actual media itself is not the only product.
No. 2302229
>>2302215Yes yes, wartime was terrible. So terrible that bringing it up in an argument about a Twitter drawing by a teen at all is pretty ridiculous.
And yeah, not everyone pirates, but most do. Hell, Crunchyroll started as a pirating site.
I'm not trying to say Japanese are
victims or anything, just the lack of self awareness and the straight up "you never apologized for comfort women, let me draw your pedophile trash as black" gets to me.
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Do Japanese men have weird bbc cuck fetishes too
No. 2302278
>>2302269It can be but not always. Sometimes it's for fun, kind of like a genderbend. I wouldn't consider
>>2300253 to be political, just seems like an idea the artist thought was cute
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What is anyone even arguing about anymore
No. 2302298
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>>2302269>>2302278>>2302280Dandadan specifically had a fuss about it before this pic.
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>>2302282There’s this meme some of them retweeted, they’re probably using this situation as fuel for their persecution complex kek
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>>2302444There’s also over 37k people agreeing with him on the misa post, and majority appear to be japanese. But tbf they don’t represent general opinions of japanese people, they’re still just a vocal online group. Picrel is an old image that they still post too.
No. 2302456
>>2302446>>2302437It's odd because there definitely are Japanese women out there who are against loli and recognize that the way Japanese men are with loli is completely different from we in the western society think of loli. Although I don't agree, in the west people can make the argument that it's just drawings or that they're not harming anyone, women in Japan have made threads on how JAV and lolis actively hurt young women there.
All that is to say is that western society thinks we're similar to Japan, but the way that they view fiction and the tropes within it are different to us. They see these drawings as harassment because they hate when you edit their pure anime because it's important to them for some reason. They get really upset over redraws or traces that aren't even political. If you take an anime character and draw a different character over it, they will act like you're the devil. They have such a tricky relationship with art there.
No. 2302985
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Does anyone have resources on how to design characters and clothing? i am trying to work on a project and i would really like to learn how to make appealing designs. Preferably resources that dont focus on stuff like simplicity and shape lenguage because i am trying to go for busy gacha-like designs. Pic kinda related some woman on the IN discord tried doing a male version of one of the in-game dresses and i found it really interesting.
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mgong copy cats have finally dropped unfortunately theyre only ripping off her current rendermax style
No. 2303595
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>>2301689>AJ Beckles deactivated>Now they’re directing their attention to going after AnairisThis is so retarded. At least she’s better at ignoring them so they have to get bored eventually or piss themselves in anger. Also this guy’s an anti-PC youtuber who’s been making videos on the situation
The clickbait thumbnails made me laugh wtf kek No. 2304039
>>2303819look more for topics (eg worldbuilding, character/creature/prop/environment design/profiles), within genres (fantasy, horror, sci-fi, etc or more specific to art movements such as surrealism, impressionism etc), in tags like 'oc art' etc, and sometimes certain artists will be more likely to post personal art than others (eg gallery artists or various strains of designers). I know some anons complain about it, but from my experience it's easier to find artists posting personal projects on Artstation than a lot of social media sites (not that they're
not posting on them too, it's just harder to find because of how those sites work imo). I've also found artists I enjoy through things like painting videos and looking people up after seeing their work at an exhibition/gallery/their name in the credits of published media they worked on. Each artist you find is also often a stepping stone to others, as they tend to like and follow people making similar things or other interesting original content.
tbh I think all good art requires a bit of effort on your part to find, even fanart– the skilled artists who have interesting ideas while playing around with existing ip often get buried by generic sketches and memes, or will be harder to find due to language differences.
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>>2290391>>2290594I suddenly remember when I said that the female version of the prostate were the Skene's gland and, randomly, a TIF said "Remember men can have Skene's glands and women can have prostates".
Uh go back to biology 101.
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>>2303547Like some Russian furries are heavily influenced by Jennadelle.
No. 2305361
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I still genuinely don't know how to use this thing. Which side changes the hue again
No. 2305832
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I struggle with anxiety and procrastination a lot, so I need advice for this very minor issue. I made an account on a website to dump some art and this guy in my DMs asked if I took requests. I normally don't take requests since I'm a small creator. But I got nervous and said yes and he gave me like this turbo specific request which I did for free. However, he asked if I could correct some minor detail which I said I would do but I kept procrastinating and now it's been like 3 weeks since I replied to him last. I really want to dump more art and use the website again, but I'm anxious. Should I just delete the DMs and pretend nothing happened or reply back to him late??
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>>2305860AYRT and you know, I actually have never looked at her work so I took a look through at her Instagram and well, I can't say I really like it myself but that's because I'm not into the generic anime style anymore like I was back in 2000s and her art style is more or less centered around that. I think her prop design looks pretty nice though, it does make for cute merch.
No. 2305957
>>2302005>>2302012>>2302015Even his troonsona looks disgusting and creepy. I don't know how to explain it but the way he describes the woman is exactly how men talk about women they're attracted to.
>>2305899Thank you
No. 2306488
>>2306342That's fair. I'm a hobbyist and not trying to become a full-time artist so I'm not looking for the most detailed content that goes into hard specifics on certain topics and that translates into me not really watching a lot of professionals so if Duchess is parroting more professional channels, I wouldn't know lol.
It's all just background noise for me when I'm working on my own art.
>>2306400Holly Brown kek. Yeah I can see that tbh but at least Duchess is a (sane lesbian artist (I think… She references her wife a lot and I pray it's not a TIM because you never know these days kek). I honestly like art commentary where the person shares storytimes while drawing even if their art is not like amazing or anything.
No. 2306502
>>2306360>I like to have something on in the background while drawingSame
nonnie. Any reccomendations? Have you ever watched a video that you felt actually helped your art?
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>>2302165No race has pink hair, dot noses, or giant eyes that go into their foreheads. Anime characters are so alien from real people that its impossible to try to compare their features to actual Asian or Caucasian people.
>>2302354Assuming the people retweeting are actually in Japan, how often would they even encounter either white or black people irl anyways?
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>>2306843>This is like saying that we couldn't get excited until Spider Gwen.samefag as
>>2306895 just got reminded upon checking the thread again but having female options in video games do mean a lot to plenty of women and young girls. Just got reminded of this OJST guest comic where she was clearly fucking terrified of getting anon hate on tumblr for saying the word genderbend kek
No. 2306976
>>2306957nta but when i think more about it, i really do feel like spiderverse was MEANT to say "anyone can be a superhero!" without giving fuel to racists who say anything black is inherently "woke", and they did a pretty good job of it.
>>2306969Name one on the same notoriety level as Superman or Spiderman, one that people who aren't Marvel nerds would know. I had to do a google search to learn about Black Panther and then I got screenshots of them covering up his whole body in the movie so you can't even see his black skin fucking kek
No. 2306990
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>>2306976I refuse to let Static Shock be erased from history.
Jackie Chan adventures and Static Shock were the shit for little kids.
Not giving a shit about superheroes enough to bother knowing any but still asking for handouts is a bad look.
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>>2306976you don't know Storm? This is sad the kids don't know basic superhero history
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Did something new happen? I assume a new horde of rei_17 clones must have showed up to result in this tweet.
No. 2307047
>>2307040>The first post looks likes an 80s cartoonIt's from 2004, he showed up in Young Justice too.
> I, as a 26 year old art nerdJust because an art nerd never watched Teen Titans or Young Justice or Justic League or Static Shock or the Xmen movies, etc. doesn't make it not mainstream.
No. 2307054
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>>2307047>2004That's still too old. Everything you're citing is old as fuck. I think the most relevant thing is the X-Men movies and upon looking it up, there's one token black individual shoved off to the side. These days, when I'm talking in a space online shared with teenagers where we all have similar interests and Homestuck comes up, NONE of them know what it is, and you seem old enough to be able to remember the absolute dictator style grip that comic had on internet culture. Why would kids know about that shit? And even if they did, why do they have to cling to black depictions from before they were even born and be happy with just that? Why can't they have more modern day shit where black kids are the main character? Why can't they want more?
No. 2307068
>>2307054I'm around the same age as you, kids should definitely know about these things, they're still shown all the time. They're on television, pretty sure teens Titans go is still airing and Young Justice isn't even that old. I'm not even into comics, I can count the ones I have read on one hand, my parents didn't buy me shit either, I literally just had to turn on television.
It's not "why can't black kids have people that look like them on the screen?" at this point, it's "why can't we force open kid's mouths and spoonfeed directly?"
No. 2307069
>>2307068Samefag but
>Why can't they have more modern day shit where black kids are the main character? Why can't they want more?Doesn't have to do with anything, my point to begin with was that Miles Morales wasn't the first black superhero for kids and that it shouldn't be a controversial hot take to say, it's the truth.
No. 2307082
>>2307078This just seems like a part of the monopolization of diversity into easy to feed trendslop that Disney has been pushing for years now.
It's not enough that a series is perfect for kids and made by those who genuinely wanted to make a good show for black kids, it's not trendy enough! It's not new! Kids need it to be in fortnite dabbing in order for them to care, it doesnt matter if it exists unless its gets a popularity vouch by Disney and tiktok. It's terrible.
No. 2307089
>>2307082>I think we should have more than one or two token black characters in a larger cast of white characters>"Lol you sound like a woke little snowflake"Trends are trendy because they work. Kids love trends because they love being able to connect to their peers, your social status is everything to you as a kid and they want so badly to fit in. If you think me saying that there should be more black people in media equates to forced diversity, you may have some biases you need to address. Yes, a lot of companies like to capitalize on calls for diversity, but there being more than an obligatory black guy to satisfy the masses shouldn't be seen as woke-ification. That's dehumanizing.
>>2307084That isn't me saying there were no black superheroes. In fact, in that very past I was acknowledging the existence of one. I was saying there were none as visible as Spiderman and that I'm happy black kids have something that visible and mainstream.
No. 2307094
>>2307089I didn't say it was woke, I said it's falling for corporation's greed, acting as if it's for diversity's sake despite being the exact opposite, the is no diverse source when it's all Disney. You aren't seeing black creators from different backgrounds, it's still Disney. When things that are just slightly out of date, it might as well not exist! Kids need another new first time ever black superhero! It's never been done before!(mainstream) (that i care to remember) (no those don't count)
If anything, I'm calling you gullible.
No. 2307100
>>2307094>When things that are just slightly out of date, it might as well not exist! Kids need another new first time ever black superhero!Yes. That is exactly what I'm saying. Kids want shiny new toys, that's been known since the beginning of time. Especially these days when tiktok has rotted everyone's attention spans and creators fight to stay relevant, I feel like people here who take their social media careers seriously should know that more than anyone. If you leave things sitting with no updates for a while, everyone is going to forget about it, and eventually, the brand is going to become uncool and the younger generation won't want to touch it unless there's some miracle and it becomes trendy again, like the current scene culture resurgence. I also have my media from my formative years I cling to and get shocked when I realize kids don't care about it, but that's just the way it is. Star Trek was literally the biggest thing ever in the 20th century and now it's only old people who talk about it. Same with Harry Potter, it has a reputation for being a hobby for 30+ year old women. Things just simply go out of date, and people inspired by the old things make new things. Even if we were to keep rerunning these old shows over and over, other people would still create new cartoons and movies that would steal the spotlight. Acknowledging this fact isn't gullible, it's being realistic.
No. 2307106
>>2307100It's terrible, sad and it's basically erasing the actual history that was made.
Kids still watch Static Shock, just because you're happy eating trendslop because you
need to be "in the know" doesn't make it either a good or realistic thing.
No. 2307128
>>2307120Maybe you need to just need to get out of your bubble because you seriously are in one.
Trendhopping into a single company feeding you ""diversity"" might be a good idea for you but I'm pretty sure in the long run it's a very bad thing, it's not only erasing and dismissing complete series, it's taking viewership and money away from independent creators that can have a genuine and not disneyfied pov.
No. 2307190
This argument about black superheroes is so retarded sorry. Every superhero show that isn't Teen Titans Go is either literal toddlershit, 2 decades old at this point or made for adults. A child is not going to know who Static Shock is. He hasn't been culturally relevant in years. Why is this even an argument?
>>2307030No way this was his final, kek
No. 2307208
>>2307197Seems like you're already halfway there if people are paying attention to you for fanart.
I'd probably suggest mini-comics involving your OCs, as a way for people to learn about them and their dynamics. Then just keep doing it, force them to pay attention.
People like fanart since there's already a world and character dynamics for them to associate the content with. So some semblance of a "world" has to be made for the OCs.
No. 2307260
>>2302920That’s not what she’s saying.
She’s talking about how black aesthetic is why anime in general is successful, not this specific anime
Like naruto or dbz us successful because of black culture
No. 2307328
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>>2307286The only gyaru style that's based on black culture is b-gal and there's a reason why you don't see it anymore kek
No. 2307330
>>2307137>>2307190Because shitting on black superheros as "ew old" "basically toddlershit" and "not popular enough, sorry" is pretty insulting and goes to show that it's just a retarded chase for popularity and moralfagging.
At least Viziepop isn't going around shitting on looneytunes for being ew old.
No. 2307357
>>2307340Because they're not. Saying that something is old and that modern children won't know what it is like they'd know Miles Morales isn't disrespecting their work, it's a fact, it says nothing about the quality of their work.
>>2307345I don't doubt it had it's popularity but I'm saying it's past it's prime. I associate it with shit like Hi Hi Puffy Ami Yumi and Teen Titans which had it's run in the limelight but people have moved on because it's an old show with no new content. People moving on to new media when they have no new content is a normal thing. And just because some scenes went viral on certain portions of the internet doesn't mean kids are lining up to watch it. It's literally about to get taken off of HBO max, less people are going to have access to it. I don't understand what you people are freaking out about. If you can't fathom the fact that kids want to watch things that are current and new then you must be the one in a bubble because you just must not interact with kids. School aged children want to be able to talk about their interests with their peers, so they'll watch the shit that everyone else is watching.
No. 2307411
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>>2307375What are your favourite hobbies and topics that aren't art related? Try drawing inspiration from those, for example an artist might really like marine biology and the ocean so includes a lot of naval and marine imagery and this also influences the way she designs characters etc. If you don't really have anything like that (though you'd be surprised at what interests you can push into art) you could try researching fashion from different eras, medical anatomy, art history, stuff like that.
An artist's style forms naturally, but when you're in a rut with a very stiff muscle memory sort of style, really researching the whys and hows people made art can be incredibly inspiring and sort of resets your viewpoint, there's a lot to be gleaned from medieval and renaissance era art, surrealism, impressionism and expressionism, even post modernism has a few things to say (though be careful with this movement) and so many other movements. Another way you could work out your stylistic choices is to do art studies of your favourite artists and try to get it as 1:1 as possible without tracing or colour picking, if they've made speedpaints it'd be a lot easier to snipe things from but it's very possible to do with just looking very closely. At the end of the studies (I used to pick three to six pieces to recreate) you can work out what choices you'd like to implement in your own art and what you'd rather not touch again.
TL;DR- implement non-art interests, research and style snipe.
>>2307360True, this discussion would be more at home in the fandom thread tbh.
No. 2307444
>>2307426I get where you're coming from, but sometimes it's just because an artist is very lonely rather than a self obsession and I can't help but feel sympathetic. In the most extreme case of this, I follow an artist who is a hikkineet because of mental illness
and she's physically disabled and deformed from a suicide attempt and she spends her time role playing as different faucets of herself. Gendies and handmaidens who do this I find more annoying and egotistical, they already have a built in friend group despite how inauthentic it is and gendies by nature are extremely boring and create boring things because of their egocentricity.
>>2307439I do believe it's concept art for Baroque Syndrome
No. 2307477
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>>2307452Unfortunately she's a chronic DFEr so I have to gatekeep her just in case a slight influx of followers causes her to move accounts again. Picrel is her work (albeit very low quality because its a instagram sc), she draws a lot of realistic gore and art about her attempt, and she has very interesting but sad worldbuilding- the world her story takes place in is inside her corpselike rotten body that is puppeted by a separate spirit, the rest of her ocs are the various parasites inside her, two of which (picrel) nag the spirit into being increasingly self destructive to the body with the black one in particular wanting her to die.
>>2307446Probably marker, but could be watercolour, I'm not very good at discerning the mediums scanned traditional art has used.
No. 2307481
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>>2307477Samefag, she's a bit of a cow to be honest but it's hard not to feel bad for her and her anatomy autism leads to a lot of interesting works (these are both long deleted btw).
No. 2307713
>>2307508She has her edgy moments but I think it's offset because she genuinely loves the anatomical makeup of the human body which sets her apart from honestly really lame gore artists like
>>2302015 (anyone can draw a anatomically inaccurate hole tbh) and the fact that all the gore art isn't supposed to be humiliating or edgy and shocking or scary is really pleasing.
>>2307612Won't say her method but it's one with a very high success rate and one likely to traumatise other people. Meant to say disfigured rather than deformed but she's lost basically the entirety of one leg and part of her remaining foot and, judging from self portraits and art about the event, heavy scarring along one side of her body. The areas she's missing her leg and foot both apparently feel unbearable phantom pain daily and seems to have issues with her internal balance as she feels tremors in the ground even when sitting down (she's from a country with virtually zero earthquakes per year)
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>>2301218I actually really love those artworks because they perfectly encapsulate the TIM cult mentality. Men want an escape from real life so they begin fetishising the idea of ‘girlhood’ (as designed by the patriarchy) so hard that they end up deluding their sexual fantasies into reality. Yeah, these paintings go hard as fuck. I don’t care if the artist intended to be sympathetic to troons or not, I just like these works as they are. Cool stuff.
No. 2307978
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>>2301408You would not fucking believe some of the YouTube video essay spirals I went down as a teenage girl naively getting into the Monogatari series (because I thought the animation looked nice). Just blatant pedophilia and incest apology under the guise of technical analysis. I’ve gone and dug up a few that I can remember for any curious nonas.
https://youtu.be/WCKgXMljZBkhttps://youtu.be/JrHtWD_YBhYhttps://youtu.be/N9HShTUAMls No. 2307987
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>>2307946Not really but I don't think she needs it, she currently lives with her ex who seems to be very nice judging by their former and current interactions with each other, she's in therapy and outpatient rehab (the injury kind, not drug kind) atm and the money she would get from the government is a somewhat liveable amount if you subtract medical fees. She really just needs recovery time and the difference between her mental state a few years ago, or even last year to this year is really night and day, she's much happier.
>>2307962She's very inspired by earlier plastiboo art, cursehole (picrel) and that whole artist circle in general. I think she also likes all the different Yume Nikki games, like .flow, Yume 2ikki etc.
No. 2308030
>>2306502>Any reccomendations? Have you ever watched a video that you felt actually helped your art?In full honesty I think videos that inspire me that makes my heart beat faster and gets me pumped up to create art have done more for me than any actual "art info" video. Videos/tutorials can be helpful when I know
exactly what I struggle with (like perspective, drawing a certain object or body part, picking a nice color palette…) and what I want out of the video. Just casually watching them doesn't teach me too much. But watching a new creative video from my favorite band motivates me and makes me actually draw more!
No. 2308051
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How do you draw clothes without fucking the anatomy?
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>Interstella 5555 was released more than 20 years ago, we should release it on cinema.
>But we are going to need to retouch some scenes.
>Let's use AI. Who are going to notice them anyway?
No. 2308123
>>2307713She reminds me of paintausea.
>>2308001East asians have the biggest persecution and superiority complexes in the known universe. If not for the soft power of anime and pop culture shit like kpop most westerners would find the insufferable.
(racebait) No. 2308214
>>2307477Extremely cool. The way the composition guides the viewer's eyes around this piece is masterful. I'd love to see her other work if you can exhume anything else.
>>2307901My guess is suicide by train/vehicle, self-immolation would be less likely to result in amputation imo (unless OP meant paralysis/nerve damage and not amputation).
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>>2307477>>2307987hey I also used to follow this artist. she was a TIF and went by he/they in july. did she detrans? she was also dating another TIF who is still one as far as I can see. I really liked her art and was sad when she deleted her last account. I wish I saved more pics.
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>>2308884You're just going to have to practice more.
>>2308056 had a point about looking at clothing websites. Try to find photo examples of the kind of clothes you want to draw so you can get a feel for how they're constructed and lay on the body/in motion. Copy said reference pictures by eyeballing them if you need to. I like to look at sewing patterns/flat clothes illustration when I'm not sure how an article of clothing is constructed (like picrel for a long pleated panel skirt)
No. 2309005
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Juby is still at it and saying she may resort to an open callout post as if she hasn't been talking about it and saying genice name on stream.
No. 2309008
>>2308910Yes
nonny i get that, but say you are drawing a woman running or doing a pose wearing that clothes, not so easy now is it? its easy to just copy refs, but my problem is drawing clothes in motion without them feeling stiff, or designing characters with fantasy clothing.
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>>2309005my god shes still going?
No. 2309160
>>2301599>The worst pedo moids on the planet shouldn't be the only ones drawing cute anime girls.Old post but yes. I want to take cute anime aesthetics and make them my own so people can actually like an artist that isn't a pedophile with tons of nsfw shit on their page for once while still being able to like moe anime girls. I don't trust a moid to be able to achieve this since they're all degenerate and end up embedding sexual shit into their drawings even when they're pretending to be above it.
>>2301507Most of those girls don't even read the eroge they're using as an aesthetic to begin with though. They'll probably grow out of it as soon as they find some other trendy thing to latch onto.
>>2301912Transwashing is annoying because you can't say anything contradicting it without getting tons of retards telling you to kill yourself because you commited the sin of not thinking (insert gnc character) is a tranny.
No. 2309174
>>2309163Yep.
>>2309164They might attract men but I feel like I've already seen a few artists who also draw cute girls and are women with a decent ratio of sexes following them. I also think if you don't draw any sexualized things those kinds of moids tend to get bored.
No. 2309207
>>2309177Most anime fan moids I've seen can like cgdct shows like that yes, but for fanart specifically for example a lot of them tend to like the porn and suggestive art of the characters even if they'll still like normal drawings. One look at the average male weeb's twitter and it's them rt'ing suggestive fanart of their favourite shows, even when they're not really super sexualized in canon. Another thing I'm thinking of is getting good at drawing pretty boys as well and sexualizing those instead.
>>2309184Sure, but by that logic you wouldn't draw any normal female character art out of fear some moid out there might like it. It's just a pattern I noticed where some artists won't draw anything sexualized and they'll tend to have less male followers (gooners especially) compared to the ones that center their entire art around drawing half naked girls.
No. 2309240
>>2309175What are you talking about? References are not training wheels, using them is a normal and expected part of the artistic process.
Most artists use references, and the only way to get so good you can draw without a reference is to use references. And maybe you can't find the exact reference you want for, like, a woman running in a flowing silk skirt, but you can easily find separate references of a woman running and a flowing silk skirt. I'd also recommend familiarizing yourself with fabric/draping and using movie/tv stills as references instead of static photographs to maintain a sense of motion. Tl;dr you're going to struggle without references for a very long time, but eschewing their usefulness is not the answer.
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>>2309175Thats a great analogy and one of the things Ive struggled with as well; references are great, but when you dont have them its harder to draw from memory and it ends up feeling stiff and unnatural. how Ive been practicing is by doing warmups that improve confidence with dynamic folds, these warm ups dont have to be the most accurate and the anatomy can be simplified for fold practice only, all that matters is that you get the hang of drawing the pleats and folds smoothly so you dont over rely on a direct reference. Some folds i practice are bent arms, loose sleeves, and skirt pleats, these gestures are heavily simplified and i usually set a timer so I dont over compensate on the details and focus on getting the basic motions. I hope this wasnt too confusing since Im self taught and mostly go by the flow until it looks good. You'll eventually get the hang of it and start to memorize key folds from practice and analyzing photos
No. 2309256
>>2309245Thanks
nonny, Hiro is so good at drawing folds. I try to maintain a flow too, but it often just looks flats, Hiro's fold have a 3D feel to them, they have weight. Its so hard to achieve.
No. 2309348
>>2309315obligatory disclaimer, but theres no set rules or "wrong way" on how to draw, only habits that could hinder your personal progress on improving; they dont necessarily make you a bad artist, its more of a road block that you eventually overcome with practice and experience; having someone to help point you to the right direction with advice speeds up the process.
An example of these habits being over relying on reference, do you struggle with visualizing a pose or idea without finding an image on pinterest to mimic? do your studies off references look stiff and wonky? Usually thats a sign you need more practice in gestures and building confidence from drawing from the mind.
No. 2309462
>>2309451No? Im just pointing out the common beginners mistake of directly copying a reference image, rather than studying it. I have mentioned
again that not all reference is bad, and the examples you listed are great example of branching out from generic stock photo refs/copying other artists.
No. 2309712
>>2309005>But if I catch wind of this former friend doing anything more with the soul-sucking project I may resort to a callout postscary kek. i'm convinced juby must be an
abusive bpdemon behind closed doors. this is definitely a veiled threat i'm sure she's hoping genice will see or hear about
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>>2309005Wild guess, this new post is about genice too (Also her posts before this are about turning 36 kek)
No. 2309753
>>2309277>i swear most anons cant read for shit.You're right, you can't! I
also did not use the word "useless", I said "eschewing their usefulness". Look up "eschew" and get back to me.
No. 2309771
>>2309177>even the non sexual cgdct slop like yuru camp still amassed 90% male follower base.I agree with
>>2309207 that a show and fanart creators are two very different markets. Those moids watch shows to find character bases which they can then look up coom art of, so if an artist is true to the show and doesn't provide the coom those moids are not interested for long. To be frank Japanese moids also aren't the same as average western moids.
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>>2308449reminds me of some ocs I saw on th kek now I know they were just copied from this artist
No. 2309802
>>2309008Use sequential references so you can see how the clothes change and conform to the body while in motion. Practice maintaining volumes, and learn basic clothing physics like tension points, weight, elasticity, stiffness/flow, and the structure of the clothing items. It can feel like a lot to think about at first, but really it's no different to learning anatomy and you'll eventually get an understanding for it without needing to think about it much. Try looking at the
Force drawing books by Mike Mattesi, iirc there's one just for clothing
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Thoughts? I keep seeing this everywhere, personally I don't think left is horrible
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>>2310052Ah nevermind, I see what kind of person the op is
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>>2310059Ah yes, people have been talking about the new MJ model for a bit, saying she looks like an old woman
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>Jenny Jinya releasing a new comic
>"Hurr huur evil human, animals with human feelings"
>Supporting a terrorist shit while ignoring why in Faroe Islands the whaling is important for food.
When did her comic went to be aware about animal conditions or funny dead animals to be… a Peta thing?
No. 2310195
>>2310156Nta but people aren't on lolcow 24/7 and it's normal to reply to posts you missed in the days you weren't on here
You tried to shame that anon but you only came off as terminally online
No. 2310271
>>2310070In what universe do either of these models look like old women? Anime weeb coomers have forgotten what real women look like. Instead of whining about western games and art styles, why don't they stick to the anime slop they prefer. Big budget western games will never have caricatures of women like this
>>2310059 in them. They tend to stick to realistic proportions and story-appropriate outfits and that's not "woke" or even a problem that needs fixing.
No. 2310453
>>2310052The right knows exactly what it's aiming for; it's stylized and sexualized by anime standards and it does it well.
The left is just "meh" and says nothing. The poses are lame and directionless, limp wrists, insecure arm folded with an awkward foot bending up. The faces are flat from what i assume is an attempt to impose some "personality".
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why do chinese artists get obsessed with the most random western media?
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>>2310710I love westaboos so much. My favourite is isosea on twitter. Her rendering style and the way she draws faces is so charming and then she goes and draws the most mid western men like they’re kpop idols. It’s fascinating.
No. 2310958
>>2310710I think they're just very immersed in idol/fandom/husbando culture so it's only natural to make art of whatever moids they're into.
>tfw I found out a popular Japanese artist shares the same western husbando as me and her OC looks just like himVery based, although I saw her art posted here all the time and never made the connection because the vibes are so different
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>>2308449she's pretty much detraned, she went the whole he/they they/them they/she she/them she/her route and draws her story separate personas as female.
Also psst if you're aware of her TIF girlfriend you should probably look at the girlfriend's alt account because that's how I found her new account.>>2308214I'll picdump some of her stuff in Art You Like on the 30th (rn I don't have the time to crop and collage about 10-20 images and I'll basically be offline after posting this)
>>2310710Westaboo art is my lifeblood, the skill and passion in their art is something I'm trying to snipe from them. Even something as retarded and autistic as Simpsons ship art looks strangely appealing.
No. 2311264
>>2310059The ancient battle of "truths VS ideals".
Does any nona like either of these designs? Asking because I honestly don't care for either. I also find the left's big chin and wonky eyes and boring ass outfit to be mildly off-putting, and the right's coom shit is gross and makes me not want to touch the game either. I'm sure some people would call it sexist to not like the left one but I'm assuming she's literally designed to look like an average woman, and as a result I think she looks boring and average… so I don't see the big deal saying it like it is. I fully get that it's upsetting to see men call a "normal" looking female character ugly but I'm kind of on the other side where it annoys me I have to "be nice" and be like "ALL women are beautiful uwu" as if that isn't just the other side of the same coin insisting female value lies in beauty. Saying this as someone who gives 0 shits what men think looks good, I wouldn't be interested in a game with a plain average looking female the same as I don't want to play coom shit games. Make her an ugly old witch crone and I'm all over it, I don't need female characters to look like super models I just want them to look appealing or interesting in some way.
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>>2310710asian fangirls are always that autistic regarding their favourite bands and tend to draw them in a very idealized way. they're so inspiring
No. 2311286
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>>2310059Are you nonnies team wrinkly post wall faggot or kawiwi bishie?
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>>2311264I'm with you. The left looks so uncanny and the Leno chin doesn't help. I want to see cool designs not the most bland character imaginable or some guys masturbatory fantasy.
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>>2311312She looks pretty to me, i think some people watch too much porn and forget how irl women look. Most fashion models would get called mannish and troon like by moids.
No. 2311332
>>2311327I was thinking of doing so as a preventative measure. The ship I currently draw for is normal/"vanilla" so I don't want to deal with spergs that'll chimp out over
problematic stuff if I choose to draw such in the future. Japanese artists usuallt don't care because there isn't a big shipper movement there but yeah maybe I'll just do nothing for now.
No. 2311488
>>2311323Don't. Maybe it's just me in my fandoms, but I find that most fans nowadays don't give a shit if your ships are
abusive, incest, etc. Unless it's pedo shit. People who label themselves proship are very pro-troon and often even pro-paraphilia. And self-declared antis are kids or immature manipulative adults. The best thing is to just post your art and the people who don't like it will block you, it's a natural filter.
No. 2311499
>>2311264I agree, I don't like either. For the left, it's because she's bland but also because she's so clearly an actress' facescan– I don't like looking at a character, who isn't like a movie tie-in so needs to be accurate to the film, and just being able to tell I'm looking at some real person's face. It's autistic, I know, but imo it weakens the overall design by it not being an intentionally made aspect of the character (sometimes this is okay, but other times it can be a bit idk off? uncanny?). I know why it's done, but I still dislike it kek. The right is obviously coombait, but I also just don't like every other stylisation choice regardless of that, and it's also too obvious that the character's appearance tells us nothing other than that she's 'sexy', making it also bland but for a different reason than the left one. I also feel like I'd seen her a million times already the day she was revealed, she's so generic.
When it comes to 'ugliness' in female designs though, I think the problem is that being bland and frumpy is the direction a lot of female character designs tend to take, rather than something more 'characterful'– if you think about it, a lot of uglier male designs will be interestingly weathered or have exaggerated features that still result in an appealing design.
>>2311286neither kek, they both have the same problems as the original comparison
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>>2311254She's an artist who use her art to conciencie about circus, (bad) zoos, why some animals aren't good for pets, how to deal with pet loss, etc. But in this comic it feels like a slap in the face at everything she did before, because she used to cite reliable sources and now she's citing the sea version of Peta.
Worst thing is that in this comic she's not only showing the people of Faroe Islands like "evil and blood mouth demons", but most of the "go vegan!" sheltered people are asking why they cannot just buy stuff from the market. Yeah, go ahead and buy a $12 lettuce that will last for few days vs meat that can be freeze and last for 6 months.
It would have been different with a comic about Tauromaquia, which the bull is killed LIKE sport, but not in a place where they rely on dolphins and whale for food.
No. 2311686
>>2311264The problem is that women's beauty is hyper focused. You don't need to find women pretty, but everyone nitpicks female characters looks because society overvalues women's beauty to a annoying extent to the point it's not even a character, just a gratifying visual.
>I wouldn't be interested in a game with a plain average looking female But you're interested in games with average looking males? Because a lot of games are like that and nobody ever said a word. Also, I think it's fine if they don't want to play because of that, but the child trantrums men throw online at every single game that doesn't fit their criteria is peak retardation. Especially when so many other games still have pretty women. So it's's not only about games, it's about punching women down. Either angry because they're not their impossible ideals or angry because other female gamers want different things than them.
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>>2311264The problem is that there is a lack of understanding in what makes an memorable design on both sides. In a vacuum, I wouldn't be able to see any aspects of their character or personality - besides the Korean coomslop being sexy of course. I think the example in
>>2310059 was an unflattering angle, but I don't get anything about MJ's character from a look at the design
No. 2311816
>>2300284Who cares about accurate vitiligo, it's art. I personally think her design works and there's that.
However, I agree with
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Anons trying to take a centrist stance in this issue are pathetic. ''b-but her design is boring!1!'' its fucking mary jane, have you literally NEVER send a spiderman movie or show? her only traits are being a redhead and being peter's love interest. The only reason why moids are pissed off its because she was part of their autistic super hero power fantasy, the prize they get after defeating villians. Thats her whole purpose. Moids are only mad because she looks like a normal woman and not like the coom worms campbell draws.
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>>2311838Mary Jane’s daughter had personality at least
No. 2311955
>>2311757sapiens beings aren't careful as humans when they have to kill for food.
Still, I wonder if she'll backfire when she realizes that Sea Shepherds have a quite bad reputation and that's having a devil contract with Peta.
No. 2312116
>>2283455Oooooh
nonny tell me how it went. I’m looking to get a tablet too but have a low budget so I’m thinking about the s7, or the s6 lite if I can find one super cheap. I have a small screenless Wacom I got ages ago that still works but I don’t like using it all that much.
No. 2312157
>>2312116I have the s6 lite and I use it for drawing, it's pretty nice maybe you'll want a screen protector to make it feel less slippery when drawing
My personal recommendation for drawing apps is Krita, it's basically 1:1 with the desktop version
No. 2312269
>>2311973ayrt I just prefer memorable character designs that communicate something about the character themselves, rather than being blandly safe designs rigidly based off of actor-scans or generic and equally safe airbrushed coom designs, male or female. Both types blend in with their contemporaries/similar media. I don't think that neither catching my interest is all that crazy kek, especially since I don't have any prior investment in any of the games/the comics they're stemming from that were used as examples.
>>2311977I do play games kek, probably too much, but even if I didn't, I don't see why that would negate anyone's ability here to discuss character design and preferences for it in an art thread.
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Where can i learn to render characters to hide my lack of skill? i am making characters for a game and its my only saving grace for them to look good since i lack whatever character designing blessing zun has and i am just a begginer. I just want to do simple anime shading.
No. 2312503
>>2312491Plain colors -> Soft airbrush shading (cover large-ish areas like the bottom half of the hair or clothes, make it subtle but still noticeable if you stare at the image for longer than 4 seconds) -> Paint main shadows (what the sun casts) -> Give main shadows a bit of airbush as well for color variation -> Paint reflected shadows (look at the hat casting shadow in the hair, or the little bit of light that passes thru the hat's holes) -> Doesnt appear on yout picrel, but bouncing light is always good (at the extremes of your shadow parts, remove a bit of shadow or color it with a lighter color across the border, stuff like floor or random objects can reflect light back to yout character) -> Play around with color curves and filters.
All of this requires you A) Color knowledge and B) Shape understanding to know where and how to apply shadows, but that's the general procress.
There isnt a magic trick that will make your art look good without you putting some effort on it though, you can't expect good results if all you do is to lazy around. You can give someone the most expensive meat and spices, but if they didn't even read a single cookbook or tocuhed a frying pan, they will probably burn the meat or use the spices wrongly making the dish taste awful. Same with art, even if some styles look simple they still have a good chunk of study hours behind them.
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>>2311686>But you're interested in games with average looking males? Because a lot of games are like that and nobody ever said a word.Ayrt, personally I haven't say a word because in general I give zero shits about a boring or fugly male protagonist, it's so far off my radar I wouldn't even be aware of its existence in most cases. I don't tend to comment on female characters either though, I only commented on this one because it was put in front of me here on lc.
>Either angry because they're not their impossible ideals or angry because other female gamers want different things than them.Another anon mentioned they both seem like they're designed by men, which I agree with. I don't see women championing the design as good, saying that is exactly what they wanted in a design etc. Women just seem upset that "an average woman"-design is being scrutinized for not being sexy coom for men. Which is of course fine and justified, but I think in this case it would be a bit hypocritical of me to go "ugh men only want sexy designs" when I literally find the same design off-putting too. Then it's just me going "how dare you call this ugly off-putting female character ugly and off-putting!!!".
It doesn't seem like men are angry that women want different designs, it seems to me like some men now design boring female characters and expect praise for it - from women - when they at no point stopped to ask a single woman what kind of designs women actually like. It reminds me of the first ugly sonic, someone really thought that was the right direction to go even though it was so obviously ugly to anyone who cares about sonic and all they had to do was ask. Still feels like no one is designing "for women", and we still kind of get blamed when female characters look boring and ugly as if it's what WE wanted.
No. 2312519
>>2311757>but I draw the line at sapient beings.I mean sure, but the comic was about whale hunting. A chimpanzee is not in any way close to a whale. One of whales closest land-living relatives are cows, which we literally farm just to eat so it's really not that different. If anything keeping cows should arguably be seen as more cruel because we feed and protect them as if we're their friends when the entire time our intention is to kill them and eat them and their children kek. The whale is a free wild animal who gets hunted by other whales and sharks, it's already part of their natural life-cycle.
The problem with hunting whales (or any animal) is OVER-hunting them, which those small remote communities where they
need to hunt them to survive do not do and it's why they're legally allowed to hunt whales while others are not. A deer and a cow has just as many feelings as a whale.
No. 2312528
>>2312522nta but
>make her an ugly old witch cronehow the fuck are you supposed to do that when she's meant to be a normal looking woman?
No. 2312551
>>2312485To be honest, I was talking purely from a design point, not about whether I wanted to fuck any of the characters used as examples (that's not really a motivator for me when it comes to gaming tbh, and I didn't think that angle was the only one we were discussing since MJ clearly wasn't designed with that market in mind anyway, unlike the Stellar Blade lady). When I do find a character attractive, it's usually a mix of them having an eye-catching, well-thought-out design and an interesting personality and story. My problem with 'safe' designs, coom or not, is that they blend in with other examples from similar media and that just doesn't engage me or make me want to seek out the game they're from etc.
(also I really hope I'm not coming across as dissing things like Love and Deepspace, I'm glad that those who enjoy it have something that they feel caters to them, the example used just looked bland to me as a character design)
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>>2312527Rendermaxxxing still needs knowledge, art is composed by lots of different skills, what those people lack in proportions they compensate by coloring.
But from someone whose art still kinda sucks to another, my trick was going from the usual anime style to a paintery one. If there are lots of colors (as long as they're coherent) your brain will find the image pleasing. Give your brush some color jitter, texture brush and don't get limited by lineart, giving the general idea often does the trick. Zoom in on picrel or simply check old masters' paintings, they're just blobs but when looking from a distance it looks good.
You can also color pick from art you enjoy or even copy/trace small details.
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>>2312527I honestly think it's more impressive when people can make incredibly simple art that looks good because it shows off the depth of their skill. If you just focus on rendering and nothing else, your art is gonna end up like Kooleen who is only capable of drawing bust-up shots because everything she draws below the shoulders looks uncanny but she has her youtube reputation as an art authority to uphold.
No. 2313027
>>2312986This tbh, like I genuinely don't understand how moids get so tripped up writing women. I just don't. There's a reason characters like Raiden Shogun are so popular amongst women despite blatant sexualization, it's because she's her own person.
This video honestly puts why women and teenage girls are drawn to transgressive media extremely well, she starts talking about it an hour and 54 minutes in. It's a beautiful video and I recommend the full thing if anyone has time.
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>>2287592She redrew it
Kate gaining that much height from 18 to 23 is still retarded to me kek No. 2313154
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>>2313123Samefag but holy shit I actually feel kind of betrayed like this. Like I'm actually in shock. Doing some research, all references to this person being trans were taken down, and I found an ancient Hibari-kun video and the voice is a lot more deep and masculine. I thought I had found a creator I could actually relate to because I was raised by the internet and groomed by cumbrained men online, I thought this person just GOT it, but no, those are that person's factory settings, and when I think about it, the Elfen Lied explanation of why teen girls liked it sounded like it was from an outsider perspective, but I thought it was just for journalism's sake. It sounds pathetic to be affected this much but I watched these videos religiously at my worst.
No. 2313196
>>2313071There’s this idea that’s been going around women’s social media about a “second puberty” that happens in your early twenties where you start looking more curvy, but I think it’s just women gaining weight because of lifestyle changes.
Also, if your boobs are that pointy after puberty then do they really get so round if you gain some weight? My boobs were never pointy so the drastic shape change kind of throws me.
No. 2313221
>>2313123i feel your pain nonna, i found out through lolcow too. don't feel too stupid for being mistaken, he uses a voice changer. on other people's recordings he sounds unmistakably male. in retrospect it's very obvious though, especially how much he mentions his "wife". i was really sad to learn the creator i thought i had found a kindered soul in was just another degenerate creep scrote larping as a lesbian with his fellow coomer. personally i find it chilling in a way.
>>2313157 ayrt sorry i deleted this reply to edit it kek.
>I thought this person just GOT it, but no, those are that person's factory settingsyou expressed it so well, i felt so betrayed and disheartened to learn this. the person i had looked up to during a dark time in my life was a fabrication; not a shining bastion of hope for gay autist girls looking to be happily married one day but rather a stark reminder of the demented clownworld we live in.
>skinwalking?a girl from his outcast friendgroup at school i'm sure. he talks about this friendgroup fondly in his elfin lied video iirc and how they exposed eachother to new stuff. i can't stomach going back to watch any of them now knowing he is the same copy paste tranny that skinwalked me during my time at school.
No. 2313227
>>2312815> I honestly think it's more impressive when people can make incredibly simple art that looks goodAgree. Normies are wowed by pretty colors, but when you’re an artist yourself you realize it takes good knowledge of fundamentals to make something simple yet appealing. You can’t rely on rendering, you have to make the basic structure hold up on it’s own. It’s why I’m personally more interested in seeing sketches/linework.
As much as it pains me to say though, the true test of artistic talent is drawing feet. They have a very specific structure a lot of artists seem to struggle understanding, plus you have to put them in the right perspective to make it look like a character is actually standing on solid ground in three dimensional space. If the feet are drawn well then everything else is usually drawn well too. Once you start looking for it you realize which artists know their fundies and which ones are just style/rendermaxxing.
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>>2313221I honestly felt so betrayed I started digging looking for actual proof and history beyond just videos and saw that at one point, him and his wife were just a heterosexual couple, straight up. I remember in the Tenshi Muyo video she had a section where she mentioned her age and it clicked that she must've been a lot older than him, but they were both adults so I thought nothing of it, but I wonder if she groomed him. They're BOTH weird. I also found some selfies he posted to twitter of himself in years like 2010, 2013, 2016, and he looked like the exact brand of kid who approaches you as the weird autistic girl and takes advantage of the fact you're kinda slow and have no friends to assert himself sexually. Maybe that's just a projection but that can't be an experience isolated to me. God. I felt so happy to hear him talking about the queer woman experience, but now the assertation just feels like a compensation.
No. 2313260
>>2313254In later videos he really ups the ante with the voice changer. You'd think this is just an average everyday
femcel discord user.
No. 2313317
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I'm done with social media. Gone are the days of hoping to interact normal people. I'm done.
We need to go back to the days of women's arts circles and trading zines. I've been thinking about doing this with an irl friend, just biting the bullet and forming an art club in our town. Memberships would be controlled, we could learn and build skills, and maybe sell locally. We live in an artsy town that does regular arts and maker markets, so it would be doable. A website for archiving our work would be nice, but it would be members only, of course
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>>2312815>>2313227I totally agree with both of you, but quoting from my own post
> i am making characters for a game and its my only saving grace for them to look goodLearning how to draw to the point your simple sketches are appealing takes decades, and i am planning to work on this project this year. My goal isnt to get good right now, but rather learn how to make appealing characters using rendering to hide my begginer faults. One of the things that stopped me from working on my project is that i suck at drawing, and that it would take me probably a decade to be good at art, even if i draw and practice literally every day. That's why i am asking about rendering. Pic rel is a good example of what i mean, its anatomy is attrocious but looks nice thanks to its rendering.
No. 2313352
>>2313327 I know that feeling exactly. Back in the day things were so small scale. It wasn't hard to keep up with a few friends. Now I have to go out of my way to keep things within a group or keeping randos from bitching about this and that.
I miss small internet but I'm not sure if we could ever return to that time. I feel like private discords come close but theres always a chance it could get raided. I also just miss irl interactions. I feel like I'll get more out of in person discussion.
No. 2313357
>>2311823lmao. well, they aren't very deep personalities but they are personalities.
>>2312510MJ should be wearing cute, fun outfits. I think if she was faithfully updated for the modern age she'd be a wannabe influencer (for better or worse). Brighter colors and some jewelry would be nice. Maybe a coat in a goofy color. Insomniac's MJ isn't much like MJ at all they should have just made her Gwen Stacy, people would have complained less.
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>>2313375Begginer, like i said. I think the anatomy looks ugly as fuck to be honest, even if its ''stylized'' the anachan legs look disgusting to me. But i cannot deny its got appeal. To me, good anime anatomy looks like pic rel. The pic i posted in
>>2313346 would look extremely flat as a sketch. It doesnt hold up with its drawing skill alone.
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>>2313389Same artist as the pic you posted prior, with less rendering. They just really like their ana-chan proportions. If you really want to cover up your lack of anatomy skills without having to bother with fundies though, I think you should study artists like lack who have a painterly sort of style.
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>>2313342>>2313317God, I would love to see the day where irl women's zines and arts circles come back. We need this more than ever. I really want to make a private club too. No scrotes. No gendies. No one shouting down our issues or denying biological reality. I just want group of other sensible women, maybe we could put together publications or artbooks?
No. 2313415
>>2313260derailing but that's clearly an ugly dude in the thumbnail
>>2313411I can see zines coming back, at my uni a few clubs make them and they're super easy to print
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>>2313414>>2313404Default femshep? Seems like a lot of women liked her other than wanting more toned down eyeshadow.
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>>2313462>men want to fuck any womannot true they were seething over this actual female kratos(bald+annoying personality just like him)
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