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The latest escapades of:
Kat Von D
Avelina De Moray
Old Thread >>612283
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Adora trying to make her ex husband jealous?
For my taste she is trying to hard to come off sexy and seems more and more cringy.
I really don't like this thread image, can we get a new one? >>677980
That's Ras' head covered with that image right? Definitely trying to make her ex husband jealous
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I can't post this on the Raven thread because it's reached its limit and I don't want to make a new one but I had to share this.
Omg so it turns out that Logan is fucking Dorian's gf. That whole family is fucked up! Logan was Dorian's stepdad for all intents and purposes (even though that marriage was a sham and wrong on all levels) for 5 years and now they're sharing the same girl that wants to be a boy (she goes by Issac and "he" now but I think it's just for attention)? I used to like him but this is wrong on so many levels. They were family for 5 years and now they're sharing a boy/girl. I'm the anon who used to talk to him when Gravy first left Nz until she got him to block me. Now you couldn't pay me to touch him.
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Eh. He looks like a douche now
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I liked the font after anon named it so I bought it. I'm not Diana. My name online is Kit and that's all I'm going to say. I used to post when me and Logan were friends and was trying to get info from him for the site
I wonder how he's handling this, poor guy. I remember from her screenshot video he had issues with his gf wanting to get too close to her male friends back then. He can't be enjoying having to live like that. >>678290
There are roses in this picture and goff queen Craven wouldn't be caught dead with anything flowery, remember? They're not dark and evil enough (I remember her bitching about that in one of her tattoo videos saying she would NEVER EVER GET A ROSE TATTOO BECAUSE gasp!
ROSES AND FLOWERS ARE SO CLICHE AND GAY
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I'm so tired of these kids pretending to be trans. You don't just wake up one day and decide that you want to be known as the opposite sex. Those of us who are actually living and struggling with their sexual identity don't deserve to see it being used as the trend of the day. It's a real struggle and a nightmare of a life that no one should have to suffer through!
Damn. This really just made me sad. Dorian should move far away from any country and people that have any relation or ties with raven in anyway, if he ever wants a chance to heal from his shit selfish mother and everything/everyone she infected with her shit.
Logan is a fucking douche, and looks like a massive faggot tool now.
Not only does he betray, fuck, and marries his mother. But now after all the shit Dorian’s been through, Logan’s doing the same to his girlfriend? That fucking stepfather/stepson is disgusting. Technically Logan is also the father in law of not-so-lovely-gf.
He needs therapy, or else everything that raven did and ruined for him will haunt him and replicate in every facet of his life, even 10+ years down the road.
I now honestly hope Logan gets back together with raven, they deserve each other.
And kek at raven going on and on about how Logan isn’t interested in girls aka “sluts” and that he wasn’t going to date anyone and how he doesn’t want any females contacting him.
The only good thing that will come out of this is a massive hit to raven’s ego bc you know she still thinks she has her hooks in Logan and hates the gf. I highly doubt she even knew, or we’d see a sperging like no other. Cue the “I told Dorian she was a slut!!!!!!!1111 all girls but me are sluts!! That’s what he gets for being so ungrateful to his loving and wonderful mother!!11”
Damn we had such high hopes, this is such a bummer. Dorian has been the victim in this entire cow-tastrophy, and he still is getting fucked over even after his narc mother skipped off oceans away to suck couch dick. I always feel the worst for the children of cows, it must be a nightmare.
I know that a good portion of the time, when people go to the UK, they have to have purchased their ticket for their return flight home, before they enter the UK. So immigration doesn’t think your planning on over staying, or planning to skip out and live their illegally, mainly for younger females they’ll suspect that your going to try to live with a boyfriend there with no intention of leaving, even searching diaries, social media, and phones in some cases to try to find out your real reason for visiting. And you’re correct, NZ citizens don’t need a visa to go to the UK, and can stay on holiday there w/o visa for up to 6 months. And the UK has tons of goths, so being a NZ goff would never be a reason for immigration to not let you into the UK.
Online Goth is lately overrun by whinny idiots trying to use "support of trans people" as an excuse for their snowflake roleplays and seeing nazis everywhere - like in this recent reddit thread for example https://old.reddit.com/r/goth/comments/9c5xjg/wgt_2019/
where poster is pretending that Leipzig is no longer safe for goths and in discussion there there was suggested that if you do not agree with that you are far right agent. And of course combat boots and uniform means you are sieg heiling at least 5 times a day…
I'm not sure of the latest rules, but NZers aged under 27 (it used to be) could stay for up to two years for a working holiday, and heaps of people would extended-dance-mix those two years by constantly going on trips out of the country. If Freyja has a British grandparent - and a lot of Kiwis do - she would have been eligible for a UK Ancestry visa which let you stay and work for five years and apply for residency.
Overstaying might have done it.
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This girl must have a magic vagina or something because she's not attractive, and her attitude sucks. Her pretending to be a gay male pisses me off. I've seen a lot of people bullied to wanting to take their own lives just because they were gay and she thinks it's a joke. I hate people like that.
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Adoras makeup is really bad when you look at it closely. I don't understand how a grown woman is comfortable scribbling on her face and gluing random crap to her forehead
Her skin has been blurred to high hell.
It looks like 2D white printing paper.
If Logan was married to raven, and became dorians step-father, and Dorian married her, then doesn’t that mean that this girl is fucking her father-in-law?
Or did she and Dorian not get married?
UK immigration story, but I overstayed my student visa by like 10 days because that was the soonest I could get a flight back to the US (I was trying til like the very end to find work basically), and was super concerned about ever being let back in. I go back twice a year to see my partner, and get a barrage of questions every time, which is fine. One of the questions you get asked every time is if you've got a job in yr home country. My guy's bro's ex-gf ended up not making it thru when she came to "visit" because she had no job in her country. Maybe youtube doesn't count as a job the way accountancy does idk, because you can do yt from damn near anywhere. But yeah it's totally possible that Freya also acted like a dick in immigration and got properly deported. She seems the type to be drama about it, even to their faces.>>678429
I'd like to live in Scotland again too because that's where my partner's at, but probs the best way to do this is to be very good at my job so I can have a good employment record and good references, and maybe get more qualifications, keep those dollarydoos saved so I can prove I've got money, and just keep looking for the work opportunities that employers are having a hard time filling. You're right, good career and/or lots o' money is probably the only way in at this point.
She might be 17-18 now. She was 16 when raven left>>678536
That's exactly what that means kek
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Well theres this. Her fb is https://www.facebook.com/IsaDenneyStrother
and this pic has her insta name. His is lunaxrot or something like that. She's listed as poly. Going on dates with him. He verified it. Dorian is a doormat.
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TT and Jake went to London Edge, she looks significantly more "goth" in this photo. Think she has been reading all of her own milk about how she's been dressing like a child recently? Seems like they're making a big effort to be xxGOTHxx
ah yes, because there is NO ONE as goff as her and Jake in Belfast. kek
has to prove it, esp after that god awful photo of her meetup with Emily and those fans yikes
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I mean its a look i guess
I wonder what truly happened with Adora and her ex husband. I think he must have been the one who left because she simply won’t address the issue, and all this happened around the time she met that Ras guy and was always posting videos super drunk (she almost doesn’t do that now), she gives likes to the comments that say that they have gotten divorced and that’s all.
I do think she has something with this Ras dude, they’re kinda the same age after all, it’s hard to figure out from the photo but it seems to be someone with light hair or light colored hair… like Ras.
You can delete your comment and repost it with the correction, as per the rules.
I mean, it would be weird if she was wearing it in public as in walking down the street dressed like that, but it was for an event so I would consider a clubwear type outfit appropriate for that (depending on the event ofc), but I've never been to London Edge so maybe I'm talking shit
It's a little risqué but it's miles better than all the tacky pink Hot Topic-esque shit imo
oh my fucking god! I can't believe people STILL can't fucking understand that in this thread we do. not. care. about grown people using alternative aesthetics such as drawing on their faces with makeup. Honey, I assure you that most anons posting in this thread are alternative, a lot of goths. "Oh my gawd adora's makeupz iz so exxagerated yew guuuys!" is not milk. "Adora just posted a pic on instagram of someone sucking on her tit and she's still trying to create mystery around whom she's fucking. also, where are her kids?" IS milk. >>678768
did this bitch lost a lot of weight? It looks like it. Also, first time I see her looking like an adult goth, not a retarded child who likes my chemical romance and thinks that this is goth is about.
The outfit is cool, I'd just put a bra or a cami under the fishnet top, the x taped boobs is tacky as fuck. Which year is it? 2004?
Yeah, it just makes me cringe. Going on about hating goth from Jake, and both hating elitists but then wearing what the people they despise wear?
I don't have a problem with TT's weight, but I don't think she's lost anything she's just not wearing loads of layers and baggy clothes for once.
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They got married it seems, and a month later they got an apartment with Logan, moved in July. As for if she can, she turned 18 this year.
why so bitter, anon?
it wasn't "obvious", she was connected to the cow and gave us a lot of answers we wanted. I can't speak for other anons, but while I did not fawn over her, I did give her the benefit of the doubt because I wanted things to be better for Dorian. And we really had no reason to judge her otherwise at the time. Shit that has happened since changes the picture a lot, obviously.
Dorian and Logan are both adults and are in a consensual poly relationship with her.
None of them are eligible to be subjects of this thread. Quit trying to make them subjects and take your thirst elsewhere.
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This bitch is a borderline cow herself. "Gay boy"? Get over yourself and grow up, "Isaac". Stop pretending to be a gay guy you attention whore.
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loses a tiny bit of weight
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Jake liked this post some desperate girl sent him
Aberdeen has a scene, and local band(s?). Plus all that drear granite has got to be pretty Goth, right? >>681061
Stigmata at Ivory Blacks is where its at
In order to do that he would have to be goth or alt.
The only thing he could advertise with his image is a pot noodle.
they've been subjects for a while already mini mod so untwist those panties and move along. >>680975
I'm starting to feel like they're a lot more damaged than we thought, and it is playing out in a fascinating and fucked up dynamic. >>680982
god, wtf happened to her. she seemed relatively together, and now she is going full tard. did she start watching Lainey and decide to skinwalk her or something, jfc
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Is this position really necessary? Why not do other ones that have the benefits of yoga without risking the safety of a fetus? Oh wait, then it wouldn’t an attention seeking photo op.
She's been on the poly transtrender train for a while.https://ramonamag.com/tag/isa-denney-strother/
Accusing her of "fucking over Dorian" completely denies him his agency.
You're a better cow psychologist than me.
I still extend a lot of slack to Dorian because he's had a very neglectful and abusive life, everyone he's depended on has hurt him badly. It's not unusual to emerge as a young adult from that completely apathetic. I'll wager he's deeply depressed. The problems don't go away because the abuser has (see Venus) and when the abuse is this profound and a support system nonexistent, it's a hard road in life.
These guys are gravitating towards a girl who I'll wager is a 'baby Raven'. It's a shitty dynamic they know and feel comfortable with. Raven did the grooming for years then bailed, and Isa can swoop in and exploit these damaged souls.
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plus her makeup is pretty typical for 80s inspired one
That's exactly what it seems like she's doing. She's obviously an attention whore- coming here to give dirt even at the expense of her boyfriend's privacy, pretending to be a gay boy, and now having sex with the both of them. She wants all the attention no matter the cost and she's taking advantage of a boy (Dorian) who simply lacks the capacity to stand up for himself out of fear of being alone. She's an abuser-in-training, moving up to be the next Raven.>>680982
Does this mean that Dorian and Logan now identify as gay themselves, and are they also having sex with each other?
He is a man child raised in an abusive situation. His mother mocked him for his skin colour and interests, then fucked and married his high school friend. There is a half truth in raven calling him out, he is mentally younger than his age because of her shit.
You really think that he made the correct choices jumping on the first girl who was willing to house him? He can have his agency and still be in a fucked situation. We know from Raven that he wasn’t ok with the poly life with how she picked up on it to hurt him. But we also know the he literally has no one in his life besides Logan and his now wife. Sadly not surprising he married someone similar to his mother.
I know he wasn't ok with the poly life but I don't recall her picking on him over it, only getting angry because he pretended she was the one with the issue instead of addressing it himself. All of that was stuff that should have been privately handled.
We all know Raven is a lost cause but I wonder what Isa's excuse is? She's a child who is already on a bad path and who only cares about herself. I wonder if she always had her eye on Logan, and that's why the feud with Raven was started, and as soon as she saw her chance she used the poly excuse to get him and keep Dorian on the sideline, helpless and too weak to speak up against it. I wouldn't be surprised if he kills himself one day. Imagine finally feeling like someone wants you only to have them fuck your ex stepdad right in front of you?
rofl, i love you>>681261
yikes, if he falls on her, he could kill the baby, but whatever, i guess?? She isn't planning to vaccinate him anyway
She’s 18 ffs
have you met an 18 year old before, they mainly only think about themselves
I agree what she’s doing to Dorian and to a lesser part Logan is terrible, but I genuinely doubt she has the capacity to see how this situation will effect either of them besides short term fights
And why should she? It’s not her job to fix Dorian or Logan. If they disagree with her, or have a problem with their relationships—then it’s up to them to say so and establish their own boundaries
Her full name appeared in one of the screenshots posted in the Raven thread. I looked her up then and found those articles and more which raised some red flags regarding her speshul snowflake level, but I didn't say anything at the time because anons were in favor of preserving her anonymity.>>681415
As much as I dislike Raven, I am unable to believe that her immaturity, disdainful personality, and abusive nature developed without a childhood of at least some instability and abuse. She made the same wrong choices in relationships, but anons held her completely responsible. Why the double standard?
Alternately, what if it was Dorian taking advantage of Isa, latching onto her primarily as a way of escaping Raven? He could just as easily be following Raven's example of exploiting others.
Do we know that the scope of Dorian's social circle is limited to Isa and Logan? The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.>>681440
She has been upfront about being poly and a gender snowflake, so it's not like Dorian and Logan didn't know what they were getting into. Perhaps she pressured them, but they still acquiesced.
Didn't he "model" before with TT when they were both significantly thinner? It didn't work out for you then Jake, it won't now. He's so fucking full of himself
I also did some digging on her at the time and tried to gently discuss whether or not she was as lovely as anons claimed her to be but got shut down, frustrating at the time. So tried of transtrender softboi shit, bitch you’re not a boy, you’re just not wearing makeup. And yeah it’s real heady to have two dudes sniffing after your shit but you’re tacky as hell.
Logan is…whatever, but I don’t blame Dorian for falling into the same trap. He has never really had a parent who would care for him and make sure that he’s safe. Kids like that end up needing years in therapy and even then the problems associated with narc parents can last for a child’s entire life. Sad as fuck and Raven is of course the biggest piece of shit imaginable.
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He does not look happy with his life. She looks like she's 12! What's the appeal? Maybe she decided to be a boy because she can't cut it as a girl kek
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She's a narcissistic attention whore, covering herself quickly in tacky tattoos, has poor fashion sense, and is taking advantage of guys that aren't equipped to make the right choice in life.
Raven 2.0 kek
tbf she could be just as damaged as them, but she also might not be. she's young and i wouldn't completely fault her because an 18 year old is like a 12 yo, in effect, tbh, but all of this is definitely shady and i would love to know what dorian and logan are actually thinking.
it's weird that logan is such a pushover that goes for these weirdo tumblrinas and someone like raven, who, though she isn't a feminist, uses men to the fullest, because he has demonstrated such hatred for feminists, and has said some pretty (iirc) violent/really angry stuff about them. he seems like a very typical reactionary young, very dumb white boy, just one that's saddled with more issues now than most.
strange that he should go for this girl. does anyone know where dorian stands, politically? i'm just curious.
While she was prone to hyperbole and histrionics, nowhere in all of the threads here and on KF was there evidence to refute her having had an unstable childhood and poor role models. Her mother jumped from relationship to relationship and married three times.>>681547
She has at least two of the same tattoos as Raven.>>681552
Look at Logan's mom's relationship history. It has not been the most stable, either: from his dad to stepdad to lesbian. And what drove him to want to escape his family at a young age?
i just realized she reminds me so much of a white javi marroquin from teen mom 2, kek. like, exact same face.>>681561>And what drove him to want to escape his family at a young age?
i'm sure his childhood was fucked to some degree, too. unless he was just a kid with a raging attraction to middle aged women (happens, but we've seen that he seems just as attracted to young women), no 16 yo boy would've willingly signed up to marry a nightmare like raven. she was fat, divorced many times, with a child the same age, and no ability to support herself. you have to be completely destroyed in the head to marry that, even if she did pressure him. i mean, there was nothing for him in that relationship. he's obviously screwy in the head, but it's so weird how he can justify these relationships considering his politics.
A narc. Sorry but that’s basically it, I mean, these people can practically sniff a person who’s already been abused by a narcissist out of a crowd. It’s much easier to continually get with and stay with the same type of person for them.
I feel for both Logan and Dorian. Dorian needs to make a clean break from all these people, there’s too much history and baggage there. The girl is nasty imo because she knew how bad the situation had been for Dorian, and chose to repeat it, with herself at the apex of the triangle. Logan is too dumb to know better and frankly I think he was just as groomed as Lainey, but time’s running out on excusing his shitty behavior.
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His "art" looks like kindergarten scribbles, and by "hanging out with his peers", you really mean fucking his stepsons wife kek
>>681337>she did have a few points when it came to him not wanting to work, shower, or take care of himself.
so, you've never heard of conditions like major depressive disorder, or ptsd? OK then.
>Logan should know better
and you know nothing about psychology, excellent.
All three seem like fucked up units, but one is definitely the leech taking advantage of two very damaged boys. >>681440
it might not be her job to fix them, but what kind of creature do you have to be to create a situation like this? definitely seeming like a mini-raven.>>681515
I hate to break it to you anon, but fatso is a serial liar. all that tragic shit about her childhood was story time, tana mongo style. >>681555>>681561
actually, people do know it for sure, and no it wasn't corroborated kek. sure, she had an unstable childhood. but let's not forget stories like being splayed naked on the bed while guests came over as some weird punishment. >>681607
all of this.
'ISAAC' SPARKS / ISA DENNEY-STROTHERS / LOVELY GF (cont'd)
The direct link worked for me, but when I tried to archive the rest of the articles, I got a server error. Ramona Mag might have archive.is restricted.
(Done with links, I'll post any others in new thread when that kind Anon is done at work)
Thanks for all the digging you’ve done, anon.
On another note, I think getting the thread up sooner rather than later is a good thing. There’s much to be discussed and honestly, I feel like Raven gets away with murder by not having an active thread. I’m not sure why the thread proposed in /pt isn’t going to be a Raven and her spawn thread, as Isa and her shit triangle is what I’m most interested in right now and not so much Raven herself, but we’ll see, I suppose?
OP anon here. My area has been experiencing a severe weather event with power outages. While I wait it out until I can access the OP files, should we get in agreement with anons on /pt/ thread request regarding the scope and subjects of the thread per >>682193
Thanks for compiling links >>681960
. What are Dorian and Logan's accounts? Can you download the article texts as the webpage html?
And an archive anon should back up the most recent videos.
We'll be out of your hair soon.>>682285
There are no videos on her channel that I can see.
OP, what’s up, apart from the weather? You have the links in this thread to copy paste into your own thread and clearly you’ve been able to get online to post here, would you rather someone else make the thread? Not sure why an OP post about ‘lovely gf’ can’t be put together and placed quickly in snow to allow us to leave this thread. Not being bitchy but it feels a bit like foot dragging, if you want someone else to do it just say so.
Apologies to the rest of the thread.
The next OP file is on my computer. Can't post it if I can't turn it on.
Is it to be the next Raven thread in /pt/ or the love triangle thread sans Raven in /snow/?
Anons seem split 50/50 on whether to include Raven; another group is discussing it on thread requests. I agree with >>682567
I always posted the OPs promptly unless anons proposed starving her. I wrote the summaries as the threads progressed so they were always ready.>>682325
The two new videos on Raven's channel.
lmao keep trying. you were so close. >>682639
then just post the fucking thing and lets get out of here. we've shit this thread up enough, and I have this funny feeling Raven is just busting to get into a thread focussed on the boys and Isa so she can play the victim and only made a few mistakes and see, they were the real monsters!
Okay let's get moving to the new Isa/Logan/Dorian thread and let the altcows thread get back on topic:>>>/snow/682714
Can you please bring any links or info you can think of over to the thread. The OP is basic but we had to move on, we can fill the rest of the story in with comments.
>>681415>His mother mocked him for his skin colour and interests
Lowkey funny to me because he literally gets his skin color from her. Raven lightened her skin and apparently seems to think lightening her skin will stop her original skin tone from passing on to her kid/s.>>682213
Is she getting paid to do this? These videos are so boring, where is the DIY, or at least thrifting videos? Killstar and Dollskill remind me of Instagram "goths" who run in the Soundclout circles. It's no wonder her style is so easy to copy, it's very cookie cutter, sad.
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I personally have never thought Drac was goth. She comes off as those girls who "become" alternative to hide the fact that they aren't attractive (like Henrietta from South Park, but I mean, at least Henrietta likes goth music).
Anyone else remember her video for babybats? If I'm remembering correctly, in that videos she was saying you don't have to listen to goth music to be goth, but you just have to "know your shit". It's like a "metalhead" saying "oh no, you don't have to like or listen to metal, you just have to know your shit!". >>682994
She's a Mansonite. Always has been and she always will be, it's probably why her goth facade has been somewhat good, she just came off as someone who has mallgoth styling instead of a poser. I also don't believe the bottom part of her text, she's given glimpses into her music tastes before and "surprise, surprise" (not really tho) it's mostly metal.
Your selfposts should go in your own thread. Cheers >>>/snow/682714>>683014
She's said she lurks anyway
apologies to this thread but I need to laugh at this dipshit.
This is no more illegal than when you dumped on raven. and the idea of it being illegal to talk shit about people is fucking hilarious.
see you in your brand new thread! >>>/snow/682714
OMG what an entitled ho!
"watching my dreams dangling in front of me… and then to have it snatched away for nothing" like sorry dear but that really makes it sound like you intended to overstay again for another eight fucking years.
I feel terrible for laughing but fuck. UK immigration is a pain in the ass, and it's debateable whether or not they're "just doing their job" sometimes, but she's handled this like a huge baby.
Like you've went into the country with no clear plans, intending to stay for "three months" having overstayed for a long period once already, with no real obligations to return to in your home country, and like idk what yr financial situation is like either but gosh. Sorry but she deserved it.
Ugh don't give her ideas.
Republic of Ireland is in a common travel area with the UK, yeah, but that just means you get asked questions when you go through border control in Ireland. For me going thru Dublin (it's an easy airport to get around just in general), they always ask where I'm going in the UK, how long I plan on staying, who I'm going to see, have i booked a return flight, have I got a job back in the states, etc. They're a bit nicer about it, although the fact that it's been the same guy at border patrol 4 of the 5 times I've gone that way might have something to do with it, but the questions are still there and you still need to have concrete answers for them. I imagine to just land in Ireland and stay there, or pretend to just be staying there as the case may be to just ship up north, you'd be asked similar questions.
Bitch has no fucking clue who Einstürzende Neubauten or Throbbing Gristle or NON are. Guarantee. Skinny Puppy is great, but you can't say you like 80s industrial if you like one band. Front 242 isn't insustrial they're EBM. Fuck.
She likes stater pack goth and doesnt bother to delve into more shit. Even though i consider fields of the nephilim starter pack goth.
I like trip hop too, but why bring it up when talking about goth? She probably thinks that goth isn't a punk subgenre. Excuse the music snobbery.>>683530
I want her to make a video about that. She's very nice in person, but what a shitty thing to do. At least refund people's money (why did these idiots donate in the first place?). I used to really like her, but now I'm really on the fence about her. Especially since I'm friends with mr. owls ex and aquainted with matthias.
Are you really friends with Nadia?
If so, did Mr. Owl dump her without question when IBF decided she wanted him back?
Oh, fuck. That just recently happened to a friend of mine. Plus his pikes fell apart on me at wgt last year. Cheap shit. >>684652
I am. Basically, yeah. They split up before ibf announced that her and matthias split and she was back with barnaby. She's pretty over the whole thing now.
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I’m so glad she’s over it.
It just came across like Nadia was a bench warmer and was dropped once IBF decided she wanted Mr. Owl back. I speculate that there might’ve been emotional cheating between them until they broke up with their respective partners. The situation is just shady all around and I hope that IBF doesn’t find another person that she thinks is better(for a U.K visa) and leaves Mr. Owl in the dust again.
I don't think IBF's fans will be dumb enough to invest in ANOTHER visa busbando
If she tries it at least it will be funny to see who continues to stan her
Yes. I guess it can be difficult to draw the line re emotional cheating if you stay friends with your ex, but there must come a time…
I have imagined it like this:
IBF via messenger: "Things are not working out with Matthias. I think we're going to break up sniffle
Owl: O RLY OK. breaks up with girlfriend
So we are both single again gosh… maybe we should reunite.
IBF: I want to but I live in Germany…. what to do what to do… oh what the hell eh.
She wants a FANCY wedding this time, according to one of the latest videos. Lmao in other words a real one and not a weird registry one with no guests where she cries into her selfie cam the whole time.
Not trying to derail but that video killed me with how freaking awkward it was. I felt sorry for her purely based on the weird disconnected autism of it. I kept feeling like "why not get a CAMERA MAN at leaaasstt UGH" and the priest (???) pretty much told her to please put the stick down at one point.
Pretending, for the sake of argument, that she was trying to pass that off as a real non-visa based wedding, why the hell would anyone ever settle for such an embarrassingly bare-bones wedding. I'm not a showy person by any means but that's the day you sort of want to be BIG and dramatic- goth weddings are the most fun ever- that was just soooo sad.
Take the discussion to KF, then. They don't believe that Isa is dating Logan.
Oh wait, you failed to screencap the evidence before they locked down their accounts.
Someone that everyone seems to worship is Jessica Lovecat/imastaythatbitch/mizyree (or however the fuck she spelt it). But i cant stand her.
She went from gringo chola to deathrock to some basic cunt with a bolt thrower shirt and leggings. Her personality is working out and getting high. She's such an attention whore. She wants a monogamous relationship, but posts nudes and half nudes everyday. It's clear she just wants male attention. And where does she get her income? She shows off her house and spoopy bathroom, but doesn't seem to work? Child support from her ex? Why has no one mentioned her on here?>>684962
Daddy didn't give her money to buy the latest creepyeha pink harness.
Did she get a mullet? D-beat phase, when?>>685000
I remember someone said she looks like marilyn manson without makeup nack in the tumblr days. I still laugh about that. Even her body is like a square. "I've always been underweight" lol>>685128
There was absolutely emotional cheating going on. It's gonna be fucking awkward when Freyja moves back to nz.>>685129
They're dumb enough. Who ebegs for a fancy wedding anyway? It's so tacky.
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at least there's one thing we know freezer isnt lying about
Screenshots such as >>678572
? Epic farmer fail for not capping the full posts to include the "date night" captions.
Without access to their accounts the thread is dead.
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May I say that I absolutely hate his shitty clickbaity titles in caps. They are all the same. >THIS HAPPENED>THIS WAS TERRIFYING>THIS DRIVES ME CRAZY
He's trying to make the viewer interested in what's going to happen in the video but these vague titles just scream clickbait to everyone who knows YouTube and bore people as soon as they see them. I'd rather click on his vlogs if he included what the vlog is about.
Funny thing is that this video's title was about them tricking the hotel employees into giving them a room earlier because they acted like tramps and hung around and fell asleep in the hotel lobby lmao.
I'm giving them the benefit of a doubt about sleeping separate because it looks like they were fighting over the couch for a nap. Still strange cause I'd rather take the comfy bed.
They are also such mall goths for literally going to the mall and eating at restaurant chains. Why do they even vlog this?
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How is this not a milk-laden cow? There's so much there for the taking!
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She posted this shortly after but I haven’t seen anything else yet
Haggraven is back again on yt, time to get the new thread up an running so we don't spam this one to death.
Long update vid with prommisess of more.https://youtu.be/Km1VgfAmFfc
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Kat Von D and Leafar are making a documentary. About their love or their veganism? I don’t know but I already hate this level of narcissism.
Link to article: https://www.livekindly.co/vegan-kat-von-d-leafar-seyer-documentary/
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I'm new here can I just say how do TT and her waist of time Jake get people to give them money for noting they on twitch now looking for money they not one bit nice what I don't like that they give goths punks bad name and Jake is not goth now he wonts go into modeling dear god if his head gets any bigger last week he was looking to move to London he keeps putting Belfast down but did stop both of them at BBC studio today .they think there only goths in Belfast.
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TT Head big oh god whish she give up on those thighs
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Baby Leafar doesn’t need a documentary, he needs vaccinations! Will they really forgo Vit K? That’ll be a fatal mistake.
I briefly checked the stream twice within the last hour and they keep playing fucking Linkin Park. This is the same guy that complains his music taste is unpopular. Yes dude we're not in the early 2000's and this music has always been shit and normal people have outgrown it. It's also NOT metal.
They are playing the sims 4 and created uber goth characters (I think themselves), it's super cringey
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Due in November??? Really??? That’s gonna be a huge baby then.
Without the vitamin k supplement baby has a big chance of dying or being a vegetable.
Kat will blame whatever conspiracy meme she last saw on Facebook instead of herself, milk the media, then repeat the process.
It’s the kids who end up losing in this. People like that don’t deserve to have them.
Forever mad that because they’re stupid enough to believe in magic and granola it’s not classed as child neglect and endangerment when it very obviously is.
Kat honestly seems like she’s just jumped on the wagon to stay relevant which is even worse imo. She’s gonna refuse to provide an infant with medical care and proper nutrition in order to stay on trend and maintain an audience.
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I hate that it looks like this documentary seems to be about praising natural home births and shaming mothers who either choose or need hospital care and drugs. I bet KVD is one of those people who looks down on women who had to have a c-section. Like it makes them less of a mother.
~positive vibez only~
fuck's sake, ppl should know the pros and cons of birth b/c it doesn't always go well and ignoring that won't change facts. the doc sounds fucking stupid, she's acting like the first person to ever have this kind of birth and i can't wait for all the 'uwu look at my vegan baby' posts.>>686144
hey newfriend, you don't have to put your name or email, just sage in the email field if not providing new info.
Until she needs one, then she’s gonna talk endlessly about how brave and amazing cesarean births are and how that’s like, way more powerful than anything she didn’t do.
Makes sense that she’s becoming one of those women who think having a kid made them magical. She’s fucked up every other achievement she’s made, gotta patch into something to fuel her sense of specialness.
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Can a knowledgeable anon tell us if this is truly a 6 1/2 - 7 month belly? She looks like she’s about to drop that baby right there on the pavement.
Isn't it kind of hypocritical that somebody whose entire career has been focused around things that are unnatural to the human body is saying this?
Also, this is the kind of shit that gets people killed.
Lol, I've noticed this too! People with tats, extreme body mods, and a lot of plastic surgery going vegan because "muh healthy lifestyle", I think most of them are full of shit. >>686145
I'm tinfoiling, but I think Kat is probably going to vaccinate her kid, but wouldn't dare tell her fans, as that's oh so horrible. If she doesn't take vitamins and doesn't vaccinate her baby when it's out, and the kid comes out somewhat normal the poor thing might die as she clearly doesn't know what she's doing from bad diet. Kat will probably be feeding it quinoa milk and soy milk, and not formula either.
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former goth model
or disgusting spotty alien?
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Don't forget she only goth in Belfast on god when she gos on BBC her head get bigger .I to can't stand them
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Sorry people I'm new to this she has to be like Kelly eden as did she do something on TV ad other day she post then next TT on BBC she so won't to be Kelly .one day people see true them
To look like this around the 7. month you need to gain a lot and I mean A LOT of weight from the very beginning of your pregnancy (or even before).
It appears she has in fact gained weight (look at her chin and neck in >>686107
) but she doesn't look wide enough in general and her tighs are still pretty small so I'm also guessing she is furhter in than she says.
I bet she's taking a lot of pictures right now to post in the time she has to disappear from instagram because her baby's birth date is earlier than she announced>>686463
can she visit a dermatologist ffs
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These are easily my favorite D-list celeb lolcows. They're both dumb as rocks. Rafael looks like a fifty going on seventy year old junkie, he's younger than Jared Leto but too-edgy-for-thou to try and stay in shape. He has a pancake-assed, pot-bellied, skinny limbed body like some old man, and now that she's all bloated and eating for two, they look like a farmer walking his cow. They don't even need scientology to look like a retard like Tom Cruise, they're their own little cult. And they're going to raise the baby vegan and without vaccinations; that baby will be lucky if it lasts two months. I hope that documentary clears the sinuses of CPS and their baby gets taken to a safe place.>>686107
That is not normal. People who keep their diets in check sometimes don't even show noticeably until they're six or seven months along, some don't need maternity clothes until they're over eight months. She looks full term and ready to pop. That baby won't even get vitK, but she gets to eat whatever she wants? What an abusive cunt.>>686166
She could end up not just killing the baby, but herself, if there's something wrong after birth and she bleeds out. Imagine growing up with a washed up, single dad in his forties who still does the edgy spelling his name backwards thing.
Going vegan isn't all that bad because at least it's good for animal welfare and the environment, but a lot of the ~natural~ new agey shit that a lot of them get involved in is a scam at best and dangerous at worst, case in point.>>686510>She could end up not just killing the baby, but herself, if there's something wrong after birth and she bleeds out.
If she's creating a documentary then there's a good chance she'll at least be a factor in the death of a pregnant woman or her baby. Hospital births do have their issues, but there's a reason why infant and mother mortality rates have plummeted in Western countries with the advent of modern medicine. Telling women that a 'natural birth' is the only way to go is completely irresponsible on so many levels. And who even gives a shit if a woman takes drugs to not be in excruciating pain during delivery? As long as the baby is healthy then it doesn't make a fucking difference; these idiot granola parents focus so much on things that have little to no bearing on what a child develops into while neglecting the things that actually matter. This is on par with boob nazi shit.
English might not be her first language?
I was bored watching TT videos, the amount of times she makes excuses for her fingernails being dirty jfc, "oh excuse my nails I was spray painting the other day" "ignore my nails I just dyed my hair" filthy bitch clearly doesn't bathe often and has to lie about it every single time. How hard it is to scrub them clean when you know they'll be up close on camera? No wonder her skin is shit too
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>>687116>Hi, yes actually you can get a young girlfriend.
>Why have an old woman when you can have a sexy young one? I don't get it.
Coz muh prefferences? People preffering partners older then themselves is nothing new. Especially for women.
Its nasty from a relationship aspect, physical aspect and general mental aspect.
Its never healthy and 9/10 has some form of sugarparent aspect to it which again aint healthy and is straight up escorting kek
she's a retail artist for charlotte tilbury now so she can't really do the goth look for that.
can we stop posting her too.
there has never been any milk on Snowy and it has always felt like selfposting to me whenever she shows up
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Says the guy who listens to Linkin Park. I love how he completely denies that any good pop music exists but he's also someone who hates David Bowie so there's no hope
>>687248> It's just so sudden how much she changed.
Sudden? It started around her haircolor change and progressed rather smoothly. >>687253
How is that supposed to be milk?
Ah yes, the post I was trying to respond to until I got a horrible 5 second ban! Clearly, the farmhands are ableist, muh ADHD! (Pls, no hard feelings farmhands, it's not your fault ik)
On a more "serious" note, I would've enjoyed this video if she had her grandmother gf as the other lesbian stripper (that's what they're supposed to be, right?) >>687355
He probably also listens to shitty metalcore, judging by his band. Even Prayers is better than his band, lmao.>>687385
I was judging based on her Youtube, even so, it seems you're right. It's still weird to me, she used to be super into the tradgoth thing and now she, like an anon in the last thread said, looks like a random unknown beauty blogger on Youtube. Oh well, at least she's happy.
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Maybe it's because she's only friends with normies. When you look at her insta there are some photos with them and she always stood out. Maybe she wants to fit in more idk. When she turned platinum blonde it still had 80's tradgoth vibes but now that's gone.
I'm probably going to sound like an uber elitist (I really don't mean to), but I find with some people it's obvious sometimes that they aren't authentic, even when it comes down to their style. With Snowy, I felt the same way but ignored it because I thought she looked cool. Also, because she liked the music. But it was always something unauthentic about the whole thing, yeah her room looks ~*spooky*~ with goth icons all over her wall, yeah she likes the music and has the 'look' down (Uh, had) but something was just off. I hate to sound like I'm selfposting as this chick isn't really well known, but I get the same feeling from the IG user tibby_sioux, she's a cute girl but I can't shake the feeling that something is just off. It's the same thing with Erin Micklow even though she seems to like the music, surrounds herself with punks and supports their events/festivals but the whole thing is just so obviously fake with her, she's really just a parody of a punk girl.
Hey now…Cher is kind of awesome.
(sorry for not really adding to the conversation)
Ha, I tried to word it so I didn't sound uber elitist, but fuck it. That's what I would've written if I hadn't self censored. One thing that sets my unauthenticgoffdar off is tacky objects and jewellery. Shitty coffins and plastic skull things.
Back to trying to be nice, I suppose it really is a phase for some people.
As for Cher, I don't like her pop but she's hot as hell in Mask.
>>687720>I'm probably going to sound like an uber elitist (I really don't mean to), but I find with some people it's obvious sometimes that they aren't authentic, even when it comes down to their style.
Sure, that's true. I'm personally living in a country where rarely anyone dresses stereotypical goth way, even despite the fact that quiet some did back in 80s/early 90s here. Just generic darker "rocker" vibe and some of that crowd are into the scene since decades. None of them is obsessed about the look, yet they will emanate gothness wearing just pink pants. Most can recite lists of goth rock bands in dozens.
The most obsessed about look here are mostly some generic "dark" girls who rarely knows even more than few entry level bands but their wardrobe is always "perfect" and they probably eat black bread only and that sort of things. They typically wear victorian and when asked identify as goths, cruise around most generic dark events and festivals. They mostly disappear from public sight around turning 25, rarely some make it up to 29 years old.
>Ha, I tried to word it so I didn't sound uber elitist, but fuck it. That's what I would've written if I hadn't self censored.
I don't see anything uber or even basic elitist in what you said. It's normal that for some people participation in subculture is just an episode in their journey trough life.
>One thing that sets my unauthenticgoffdar off is tacky objects and jewellery. Shitty coffins and plastic skull things.
Well this depends on time period and general "wealth" of population and of course individual execution of them as part of wardrobe. I'm from poorer part of Europe, so it's nothing sensational to be spotted with artificial jewelry pieces or some cheap imitations of some other accesories, yet some manage to keep them within "punky" context, other don't. On other hand you can look fake even wearing 925 sterling silver, so… not to mention polyester victorian dresses some love so much… yet some manage to look quiet ok in them for some arcane reasons.
>Back to trying to be nice, I suppose it really is a phase for some people.
Well, yes. I agree. "It's not just a phase mom" originated because that is indeed a phase for many people.
>As for Cher, I don't like her pop but she's hot as hell in Mask.
Well, she also stand(ed) out in nowadays generic popstars crowd even if it's just because 80's had a much higher technical requirements for singers. Lack of digital mastering was much less forgiving than nowadays when you can have no singing voice at all and record multiple albums with proper mastering and management/advertisement.
Noooo I didn't mean cheap jewellery like that. I mean how they stock up on the crap at Halloween from pound/dollar stores and it looks really try hard and sad, like putting fake cobwebs on their windows. That nasty stuff and they take it seriously.
Wearing rosaries was a big thing back then. Maybe Madonna put goths off because I don't see that much now.
But isn’t it that he’s a former addict instead of simply mentally ill?
I remember her from the Vampirefreaks times back in like 2006 when she was the most rated and popular girl on the whole site, she stayed #1 for years and everyone kissed her ass, but she was not really that much of a drama person back then, she used to take a lot of pictures with certain goth aesthetic, more going to the melancholic or ghostly gothic style. There were people who talked to her regularly and always said that she was so smart and stuff but nowadays it’s so cringy to see her, read the things she writes, and the way she is, I wonder if she got hardcore into drugs too and her mental health got affected by it, there are too many drugs that actually give you mental issues that you can’t revert.
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lovely shit splatter makeup look, vicky
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sorry for double post but had to share this one as well. her new skull tattoo looks like something from the lesser key of soloman and apart from being super edgelord something always rubs me the wrong way when people get this kind of thing tattooed on their body. probably a dumb superstition of mine but demonic and satanic tattoos are like mere mortals fucking around with big shit we don’t understand idk.
Ooo anon congrats, I'm due end of November! Agreeing with all you've said here. I never followed her so I didn't know at what dates she said these things but it definitely makes it feel more sus now. Jeez it took till the end of March for me to even find out I was pregnant.
Regarding the gender thing, I am not American myself but have known a lot of American couples to find out much earlier than the 20 mark but that's usually due to a blood test. Maybe among all her hippy dippy granola shit she was able to justify something she'd seemingly hate, in their rush to find out the gender.
Also I really don't agree with dragging a pregnant woman for her size, ever, but basically if this is correct and she's due around the 29th then she's due at the exact same time as me and looks a hell of a lot bigger than me, and I'm not a small lady. Idk.
Congrats to you as well! <3 I live in California, my doctor said if we wanted the blood test that determined the sex we'd have to pay for it out of pocket. Apparently it's just a small part of a comprehensive blood test and only covered by insurance if you've got a proven family history of certain things. She's very well off, so she may have just paid for it and not thought twice-who knows!
I also agree, not to drag her by any means, especially since every woman experiences pregnancy differently, but she looks pretty big, almost as if the baby has already dropped more in preparation for expulsion. Her belly is bigger than mine and i'm not a small lady either and this isn't my first pregnancy.
More than anything it just strikes me as odd that she's sharing so much of her pregnancy with her fan base but is coming off as really deceptive about when the baby was conceived/due.
ever since she got rid of her hair she looks like she has a bobble head. also funny how she says she loves it but then complains dudes don't find her attractive. none of her tattoos make sense, she mostly goes for edgy shit for the sake of looks and is going to be a mess before she's even 30
why do ppl care about kvd's concception/due date? for all the bitching that goes on in this thread about non milk, i really don't get why this is such a discussed topic.
tbh, it seems like since she's spent the better part of the year travelling australia and asia, she's really changed? i mean, she's a young person who was mostly into goth music and some fashion, took a break from the community, travelled, went home and decided to change her life? it's not out of the ordinary for young people who get out of their comfort zone to change. I have never really doubted her sincerity when it comes to what she likes, but people change, anon. >>687660
Snowy has always said that she really likes 80's music and tradgoth music? I mean jeeze, nobody is ever satisfied. Goths who age into the goth scene are called immature tryhards, and those who move on are called posers and fakes. theres truly no way to win.
>>687392>I would've enjoyed this video if she had her grandmother gf as the other lesbian stripper
Didn't listen to the music but skipped through the video and had the same thought. If it's Tru Luv then why put a young sexy woman in the video and not grandma? There's also plenty of girls in the comments offering themselves up to Julia. So why has she gone for an older woman a second time?
Should be noted that her first girlfriend in Brazil was a girl her age, and they got hassled in public, which I assume is what the music video is a dramatic retelling of. (nobody died irl)
Not that anon, but I agree with what they said. She didn't sign a blood oath because she was never part of a subculture. It was all about hair and makeup for her.
>Thank you to who requested this video! I had a lot of fun making it :)
So much fun, she decided to do it full time.
Now she's back and itching to do youtube I bet she starts liking ~spooky~ stuffs again.
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>>688449>Goths who age into the goth scene are called immature tryhards, and those who move on are called posers and fakes. theres truly no way to win.
How? Not in these threads at least. I've never seen anyone call an "eldergoth" in these threads an immature tryhard. I could see it if they looked like TT for example, as she is an immature tryhard but someone like Angela, for example? How? >>688712
Ugh, it's just so unauthentic. I'm speculating here, but I think I'm right as I've seen this same thing play out a couple of times. Snowy is just a weirdo (not an insult, for my sensitive anons). She likes goth music, she seems to look it, but it's not real. Snowy, in general, is simply a weird girl who doesn't fit in with her normie friends, instead of just being herself and not labeling herself at all she tries to fit in with her surroundings. It doesn't work because it's simply not who she is. >>688690
This is why I don't get posts like this, if she were goth, why is she changing herself just to fit in with her normie friends, surely she would've came to terms with the fact that she isn't normal already? No one has to look like Jonny Slut or Siouxsie Sioux's twin, it's very easy to tone down your look and still "emanate goffness" (lol) when you're actually goth.>>688485
I agree, but not with the retail part. A toned down look can get anyone a job like that, only idiots who have to reaffirm to themselves "I AM DA GOFFESS OF DEM ALL!" by going OTT every day and ruining their skin by clown white face paint and looking like retards in general, aren't going to get a job like that. >>687756
's >The most obsessed about look here are mostly some generic "dark" girls who rarely knows even more than few entry level bands but their wardrobe is always "perfect" and they probably eat black bread only and that sort of things. They typically wear victorian and when asked identify as goths, cruise around most generic dark events and festivals. They mostly disappear from public sight around turning 25, rarely some make it up to 29 years old.
Is accurate, these OTT people are simply tryhards, they probably look in the mirror daily telling themselves "I am goth, I know who The Cure, Depeche Mode, The Sisters of Mercy, and Siouxsie and the Banshees are. My hair is fried and I have ruined my skin with chalk water, no one is more goth than I."
TL;DR, major goth sperg. Possible elitist? Oh no! Oh well, at least I saged. My excuse is it's 8:47 am, and is about to rain here.
Anybody who whacks on a "The Cure" shirt and thinks they are suddenly a goth now. The Cure aren't even goth to me, a lot of what entry level "goth" is were considered pop music at the time.
Snowy is absolutely someone who decided that because she doesn't match the Stacey friends that she's now a Goff, which is ridiculous. She blatantly tries to be "more" gothic to humor the viewers, then gets back into her normie gear afterwards.
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imagine giving these two idiots £1000.
you might as well have flushed all that money right down the toilet.
I hate to admit it but Jake really is too good looking for Kaya. She really just does not care about how she looks anymore
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already putting that £1000 to good use
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New shows alongside a 'Retractable Masturbation Cup' >>688898>I hate to admit it but Jake really is too good looking for Kaya. She really just does not care about how she looks anymore
It's sad because Kaya can look really pretty when her weight is under control, she looks so weird now. As for Jake, he looks kinda chubby so I think he's average. I won't deny it though, if he wasn't a bit chubby and stopped trying to be a metalhead and goth poser I do think he would be more attractive.
>>688914>I won't deny it though, if he wasn't a bit chubby and stopped trying to be a metalhead and goth poser I do think he would be more attractive.
That and if he had a complete personality transplant. He might be just slightly
better looking than Kaya on the outside but they're both equally ugly on the inside, tl;dr they're fucking fugly
Not to mention that blatant misinformation at the beginning of the video.>I can't pull it off because I'm old and not a tiny Asian girl>lolitas are supposed to look like children and also only Asians can be lolitas lol
Please, just stop.
Yeah in Europe and the UK specifically it is considered pop/mainstream, maybe not in the US.
Since Snowy is from the UK I can say for sure the Cure are considered semi normie here. Friday I'm In Love and Lovecats are pop/rock mainstays.
She should have tried a aristocratic style over the sweet style, she actually has the face to pull of the mature more "queenly" looks you get from that style of lolita.
The pale pink and white sweet lolita look is horrible on her,she looks dead (er than normal) I thought she was going to try for a pale goth look or something but I guessed wrong
I wonder if she thinks Lolita is all just cake prints and pink everywhere
>>689109>I wonder if she thinks Lolita is all just cake prints and pink everywhere
I think she's trying to escape her past as a weird v-kei wannabe weeb who failed at lolita by pretending she doesn't know anything about it. >>688948
These videos are pointless to me, but they get a lot of views from dumb people on YT so that's probably why she does them. I think an interesting transformation video from her would be a video on how she used to look, like around her Myspace days (it'd probably be just as boring let's be honest)
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I guess Snowy isn’t the only one going normie.
I mean, Drac just has her look going for her in terms of being part of the scene. She doesn’t like the music as proven here >>682918
So if you don’t have the music or the look, are you a goth or a normie?
Sweet isn't for everyone but she doesn't look that bad, and lolita brands have released things that absolutely will fit her; plus, if she can afford all these hauls, she can afford a headbow and a blouse secondhand to at least make it look like she tried.
Having seen plenty of people who aren't Asian and don't look "child like" being made over into sweet lolita successfully, I can say it has nothing to do with ethnicity and everything to do with knowledge of fashion and makeup, but I guess she didn't want to dedicate any actual effort into it.
She won't be paying for those hauls.
I totally get not spending money on a garment you know you won't wear for anything other than a video shoot.
>>689187>So if you don’t have the music or the look, are you a goth or a normie?
No liking of the goth music at all - not a goth. Elaborate complicated style clothing and makeup is just an addition that was created by decades of clubbing events by goth music community and was not that big part of of the scene initially when t was very simplistic mostly. And in many countries outside UK and USA it was mostly about wearing dark toned clothes.
Vidrel - Drac's video from 2015 "Goth for beginners" - presenting her outlook on the definition what goth is in her opinion at the time.
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Says don't trust people who listen to pop music
Exactly. As someone who has followed lolita fashion for years, there are some legit beautiful brands, esp for gothic lolita. But some reason uninformed as hell people like Freyja think lolita = SWEET LOLITA and nothing else. It's obnoxious and lazy.>>688960
ew, that's so gross. She needs to stop
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The Blitz Kids of the late 70s would like a word.https://shapersofthe80s.com/blitz-kids/
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>my beautiful #vegan husband
There's no need to say anything further
This. When I was newer to the scene, I came across Toxic Tubs and Freezer. Impression was goff = buy stuff. At least Freezer knows her music.
Granted, they were less milky then, but with what's accumulated now (scamming, etc) it's shitty they are the "big names".
I think IBF's video was better for beginner goths. She went right to the point, we aren't emo, and goth is a music based subculture. Drac's video is unnecessarily long, should've just titled it "How To Be A Goth Poser" tbh.
And damn, I've said it before but it's really obvious now that I'm rewatching some of her videos, she truly is a Mansonite. Even down to her makeup lmao. I also hated that video of hers where she was basically saying you don't have to like goth music, but you have to know the bands so you don't get called a poser.
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Ugh why is he so obsessed with pulling down his pants when he's showing off his body? It's so uncomfortable lmao. I wonder what Kaya thinks. There is absolutely no need for that except you're trying to be sexually suggestive.
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In other news: Freezer finally got her UK visa
What's there to be proud of here? He#s untoned and pudgy. I honestly think they don't have a sexual relationship at all, it might explain why she found this >>688914
Oh god, keep away from us in the UK. Is she gonna dump Mr Owl for a British husband now?
He looks like he has some muscle, but alas, it is hidden under fat which is fine as you'd assume he's been bulking - but I can't see him ever cutting enough to get the ripped look he wants. These two never seem to eat properly, which is good if you're doing a dirty bulk (kinda) but not if you're after that defined look which Jake seems to think he has going on.
And yes please. The UK does not want Freya back. I wonder how she wangled that one.
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Kaya said on Twitter that she was upset editing her new video because she looks fat in it even though she insists shes losing weight.
The camera doesn't lie Kaya
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Ahh yes. A time of need to fill her empty cupboards. Yet she can afford to goto the uk!
If Mr. Owl is in NZ, why is she going to the UK? Now I'm sure she's about to leave him again and get a British goth hubby.
New video by ReeRee. Inb4>SHE IS NOT EVEN GOTH
Yeah, but she's still alt tbh.
This video was all about her miscarriages and the one she had a few months ago. Nothing about goth or anything just her mental and where her mind is at from the miscarriage.
As for Friday with her “time in need” yeh. It’s her crying too poor to fill her cupboards with food
No really, I don’t think I’ve seen worse eyebrows in my life. They make her face look as big as a planet.
But she insists.
Nothing weird about age gap relationships even if one of them is a child!
She's sticking fast to the stance even in ridiculous cases, it seems.
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I always wondered what irks me so about Dres face… something that made her look just weird. I shopped her face shorter and the difference is dramatic.
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Anyone familiar with this flaming fuckface? Stole this screenshot from a Facebook group I’m in, it’s getting a lot of traction and shares right now. Tried to go to her Instagram but it’s private.
>>691801>skin color is on par with music in importance>being part of a subculture based on music and aesthetic by choice is the same as being born black or tall, or working as a model
Wasn't familiar with this rule. I love that the first line in her IG bio is "FUCK OFF fake goths", lmao.
What do the comments look like?
I saw it in the group Goth, Gothic, Gothics and people are PISSED. But maybe >>691821
is right because it does seem pretty trollish
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I tought I'd add the screenshots here. damn they are so greedy. Aren't they sponsored by them anyways? I guess it's never enough.
I remember the whole tumblr shenanigans. Had no idea that was her on vampirefreaks. It makes the whole disrocker thing even funnier.
I know she's autistic so she just clings to what everyone else around her is doing. Glad to see I'm not the only one who doesn't kiss her fucking ass.
I was a heroin addict and then an alcoholic. I had the DTs horribly the first few times i tried to sober up. My short-term memory is fucked up from it and I feel like it worsened my bipolar disorder. I can imagine her drinking doesn't help her mental disorder.
She mentioned being fat at one point. She could have lost weight through tweaking. I know a lot of former drug addicts get addicted to working out.>>689357
Goth is just a subgenre of punk. It was a bunch of homeless kids on drugs who wanted to make punk, but darker. Then new wavers branched from punk. The 90s fucked everything up. From the music to the fashion trends. I cant stand the term baby bat. Was it coined by Jillian venters? i wish she never wrote that fucking book or acted like any kind of authority on goth.
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Here's some new evidence from some old ish milk. Getting proof as the idiots post
I know this sounds like a reach but self-pitying people are eating this "viral" story up right nowhttps://twitter.com/sheilakathleen/status/1005116845240848385
It's definitely a staged attempt.
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Sage for no milk.
For years I wondered why Kaya's voice was like nails on a chalkboard and so bloody annoying, then I realised it's because she sounds EXACTLY like Mrs Hoggett (Farmers Wife) in the movie Babe. Same weird whining sing songy old lady tone. Sorry just had to share.
What normal person does this? What brain process between them lead to such a stupid fucking idea like "if someone donates $1000, Jake will shave off his eyebrows!" and why do people still follow them blindly?! Even if you disregard these two selfish brats exploiting their fans, shaving your eyebrows off is hardly a big feat is it? He had drawn on eyebrows before in his Jeffree Star wannabe cyber emo days anyway. Apparently it's fucking $1000 worthy.
sage for rant
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does he actually even like Kaya.
There's no chemistry whatsoever it's really sad.
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I think he got with her to get some of her fans, tbh. He probably would've got more fans if he was with IBF, but she's actually goth so I doubt she would want a wannabe metalhead/goth poser.
I want to say he was purposely acting miserable because he was about to have his eyebrows off, but he acts this way all the time with her so I genuinely believe that's just how he is. Remember in the Killstar haul video with him where he tossed the clothes at her when he got up to leave? He's such a dick. Is she really oblivious to it or just lying to herself? They're as bad as each other but she's really better off without him
Also I'm not one to attack someones looks but she's REALLY let herself go hasn't she? Not just in terms of the weight gain but her overall appearance, she's just really not attractive anymore. I wonder if it's a result of him making her feel shit about herself
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>>692914>Also I'm not one to attack someones looks but she's REALLY let herself go hasn't she? Not just in terms of the weight gain but her overall appearance, she's just really not attractive anymore. >I wonder if it's a result of him making her feel shit about herself
I wouldn't doubt this at all. When he was still a mallgoff he always looked like her twink little brother. Perhaps he knows this, which is why he's such an ass to her.
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her biggest problem is how she's doing her makeup these days.
putting thick layers of white foundation all over acne is never a good look.
she's also just older. her skin has aged so everything looks a bit cracked and weird
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sad that she was on her way to having a pretty successful modelling career if she worked harder
holy crap what a difference, she used to be so pretty>>693063
The shaved sides just make her look larger, as do the shorter eyebrows she insists on drawing. She looks a lot better with her hair down and longer eyebrows. That extreme cat eye look doesn't suit her either. I know people can do whatever they want if that's what they like but she is always complaining about being fat so why does she do everything that accentuates it?
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When you’ve got no control over the angles.
And fuck are her teeth just as bad as ibf
You need to stop posting this stuff in this thread, no-one wants to read about it here; go to Raven's thread if anything >>>/pt/573602
We had a specific thread for the Isa situation but staff locked it due to vendetta posting, and who knows that's probably what you're doing.
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I must just have really delicate feet. HAHAHA this made me cry.
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BUY A STEAMER YOU AMATEUR!
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This is my favourite part.. the tag hanging out of the back of the jumper. The level of care is below anything one would hope not to video. Has anyone noticed how she models and stands like she's being frisked by police or something? Her arms hang out to the sides like she's a scarecrow. Who does that? Then she stands showing each side like a police lineup about to get her mug shot taken. I'm crying.
He has that same dead-eyed look as Logan. He's to her like a pink toy poodle is to an aging rich divorcee. Poor accessory boy.>>693042
She's fat and dumpy, it's not just her face that is sagging. Good goths, or goths that age gracefully, tend to be boney. The meatiness of her throws off the look. Goths need cheekbones.>>693051
If by modeling you mean porn, sure.
Uh why her though? She bashes Belfast and actual goths all the time>>693363
Well, I mean, she's just trying to show how the garment looks from every angle which is fair enough, but she doesn't have the greatest posture nor does she even try to make herself or the clothes look presentable. Showing the clothes in motion, or even a lookbook, would be better than her frumpy ass just stood doing a 360 degree turn…
>>693276>And fuck are her teeth just as bad as ibf
Meaning not bad at all, just natural.
You amerifats are really ridiculous with your thinking that artifical whitening means "good teeth". kek
Hey Dorian I thought you hated lolcow.
I am inclined to believe this is him though. Between hating fat people as much as everyone else in this forum and his recent tyrade on insta about how obsessed Americans are with basic good oral hygiene, I gotta say I really believe this is him.
Australian and no. They’re fucking bad and it just shows how much she edits her EVERYTHING. And honestly, if you’re teeth are THAT yellow, that’s just poor brushing mate. Goto a dental hygienist and get a bloody clean.
Even the side angle was horrible. Didn’t know how bad her acne actually was
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Lol at the top comment on BBC's YT channel video.
VIAGE LÍRICO says:>BBC is covering everything. Next time they will do "How porn movies made"
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Just gonna leave this here
She needs to size up, she would look so much better.
Her hauls are depressing, make an effort, get out of the house and show us how the clothes move, how do you style them?
TT uses the word 'cute' 19 times in that video.
Someone needs to send that bitch a thesaurus in her next haul.
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Is she fucking serious? Can't even be bothered to straighten her bow / collar or at least reshoot when she realised they needed fixing?
Why the hell are these companies using her to showcase their clothing?
Is that a dress or top? It looks too small for her either way>>694663
She's just lazy. As long as she gets free stuff she doesn't care about making an effort or being totally honest about the products she gets.
Breaking news, humans (women included) have armpit hair.
FFS, can you stop your look nitpicking? You not liking makeup, teeth, hair whenever possible, nails, toes, fingers, tongue, brows, eyes, tattoos, shape of etc have nothing to do with the matter of this thread, board and even whole farm.
Love it how you think this is one person.
I hate tts teeth. Another mentioned some ransoms underarm hair.
But now that you’ve had an autistic fit about people’s opinions, get that shit lasered.
Why must you insist on being unhygienic??
This is a board to bitch about people and it’s clearly getting to you. Maybe, Iuno, fuck off??
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Imagine making a 17 minute video asking your viewers to buy you things off your amazon wishlist. she was cow even back 4 years ago.
A lot of people seem to think that TT and PeachMilky are both sweet, nice people but their both really bitchy and mean. PM is great at hiding it but once she has a few drinks in her she shows her true colours. TT used to post on hate forums making fun of fat people so we all know what she's really like.
just makes me angry that people still donate and buy things for TT when she's the least deserving person
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The amount of photoshop. How? And why?
We know what her face looks like. I just don’t understand
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before she got her nose done she was really shy and quiet. she saved up every bit of money she ever got from the age of 8 or something to pay for her nose job.
After she got it done she changed into this different person.
She is friends with TT for a reason. they thought they were the hottest things walking in Belfast. PM is a gamer so she thought she was so special and Kaya being a goth she thought the same thing.
anyways these days PM make fun of all the guys who obsessively send her money and gifts over Twitch. She thinks they're all creeps