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No. 676104

The latest escapades of:


Adora BatBrat
Drac Makens
ItsBlackFriday
Jake Munro
Kat Von D
Erin Micklow
OfHerbsAndAltars
ToxicTears
Jimmy Mercy
Sebastian Columbine
ReeRee Philips
Avelina De Moray
Alison Eckfeldt

Etc, etc

Old Thread >>612283

No. 677158

When is this thread going to be used?

No. 677163

>>677158
My thoughts exactly. It’s been weirdly empty for days now

No. 677801

Did they miss the link or details in the old thread? I guess it's still open.

No. 677855

TT's harry potter haul, does she not know how to describe anything other than "cute"? she's so superficial, no meaning behind anything she likes, just as long as it's "cute" and "pretty"

No. 677980

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Adora trying to make her ex husband jealous?

For my taste she is trying to hard to come off sexy and seems more and more cringy.

No. 677989

>>677980
I agree. Adora is over the top slutty nowadays.

No. 678017

>>677980
Has she addressed splitting from her husband at all? Stopped following her months ago when she was still gushing over him.

No. 678030

Speaking of divorces, IBF said her parents split when she was 1. Could it explain why she's not great with relationships (the ones we've seen, anyway)?

Sage for armchairing

No. 678049

>>677801
I really don't like this thread image, can we get a new one?

>>677980
That's Ras' head covered with that image right? Definitely trying to make her ex husband jealous

No. 678064

>>677801

OP did not announce the new thread when they posted it.

No. 678066

>>678049

Just like comments, OP cannot be edited.

No. 678112

>>678030
Armchair lmao a bsby with 1 year old doesn’t understand relationship da fuck

No. 678114

LOL still can't enter the UK. not proper enough. I dont think Freya will ever be content. Keep dreaming… she won't be able to return the to UK. Bad behaviour is not tolerated.

No. 678149

>>678114
Did you have a stroke writing this anon?

No. 678239

>>678064
Yes they did, it was posted in the last thread but now it's gone

No. 678246

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I can't post this on the Raven thread because it's reached its limit and I don't want to make a new one but I had to share this.
Omg so it turns out that Logan is fucking Dorian's gf. That whole family is fucked up! Logan was Dorian's stepdad for all intents and purposes (even though that marriage was a sham and wrong on all levels) for 5 years and now they're sharing the same girl that wants to be a boy (she goes by Issac and "he" now but I think it's just for attention)? I used to like him but this is wrong on so many levels. They were family for 5 years and now they're sharing a boy/girl. I'm the anon who used to talk to him when Gravy first left Nz until she got him to block me. Now you couldn't pay me to touch him.

No. 678251

>>678246
How did you find out, and does Dorian know?

No. 678261

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>>678246
Eh. He looks like a douche now

No. 678262

>>678246

Raven's signature font detected.

No. 678263

>>678251
They all live together so I assume so. I follow her on Instagram and she posts pics with them both and I got curious and asked him. I was afraid to write him in case he blocked me again but he didn't. I know Dorian is a jealous person and he never approved of her wanting to screw around so I wonder how he's handling having to share her in his own home with the guy who was married to his mom

No. 678267

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>>678262
I liked the font after anon named it so I bought it. I'm not Diana. My name online is Kit and that's all I'm going to say. I used to post when me and Logan were friends and was trying to get info from him for the site

No. 678290

>>678267
Are you fucking kidding me lol. The background of ravens phone was some dumb galaxy landscape in videos. I remember a video a few mnts ago during the split up where she picks up her phone and exclaims logan's still soo in live with her. I want to say it was the one before they went to the mall for that ugly bear. You cant clearly see her phones screen with that font and background.

No. 678313

>>678261
he literally always did look and act like a douche. did he lose weight? he was getting so fat with raven.

No. 678324

>>678246

sad if true. we were all rooting for lovely gf and dorian. he deserves to be happy and not succumb to narc-caused chronic depression. he seemed to be doing so well, better than we expected given his fucked up life. poor kid. damn man this bums me out

No. 678334

>>678324
I wonder how he's handling this, poor guy. I remember from her screenshot video he had issues with his gf wanting to get too close to her male friends back then. He can't be enjoying having to live like that.

>>678290
There are roses in this picture and goff queen Craven wouldn't be caught dead with anything flowery, remember? They're not dark and evil enough (I remember her bitching about that in one of her tattoo videos saying she would NEVER EVER GET A ROSE TATTOO BECAUSE gasp! ROSES AND FLOWERS ARE SO CLICHE AND GAY
kek

No. 678341

Even that idiot isn't stupid enough to post about Logan's transgressions here. All that does is tell us that he was probably interested in lovely gf and she in him, the entire time. Maybe they were already plotting to get together behind her back, because with the porn and now this it's obvious he wasn't happy in that marriage and was already looking elsewhere. We used to think he was interested in that girl she tried to adopt and maybe we were right. Maybe this is the real reason why she turned on Dorian in the end and why she hated Isa so much. I doubt this is something that she would want us to know, so thanks anon for the info. I've been missing my Raven milk, and this at least gives me something to lol at. She lost her entire family to one girl! That must be killing her!

No. 678345

>>678341

it is said that victims of predators tend to give off a certain vibe other predators can pick up on so it wouldn't surprise me if unfortunately Dorian is a magnet for sack of shit users and abusers.

No. 678348

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I'm so tired of these kids pretending to be trans. You don't just wake up one day and decide that you want to be known as the opposite sex. Those of us who are actually living and struggling with their sexual identity don't deserve to see it being used as the trend of the day. It's a real struggle and a nightmare of a life that no one should have to suffer through!

No. 678354

>>678324
Lovely gf ain't so lovely now. Even if she's really poly (which I doubt), you don't go after your partners best friend

No. 678362

>>678049

>That's Ras' head covered with that image right?


No, but you know owner of that head

No. 678365

>>678348
>Those of us who are actually living and struggling with their sexual identity don't deserve to see it being used as the trend of the day. It's a real struggle and a nightmare of a life that no one should have to suffer through!

So much this, It's tiring to watch all these apache helicopters pretending to be different model every few months.They are doing disservice to literally everyone themselves included.

No. 678368

It's not only raven, the whole family is fucking weird

No. 678385

>>678246
Damn. This really just made me sad. Dorian should move far away from any country and people that have any relation or ties with raven in anyway, if he ever wants a chance to heal from his shit selfish mother and everything/everyone she infected with her shit.

Logan is a fucking douche, and looks like a massive faggot tool now.
Not only does he betray, fuck, and marries his mother. But now after all the shit Dorian’s been through, Logan’s doing the same to his girlfriend? That fucking stepfather/stepson is disgusting. Technically Logan is also the father in law of not-so-lovely-gf.

He needs therapy, or else everything that raven did and ruined for him will haunt him and replicate in every facet of his life, even 10+ years down the road.

I now honestly hope Logan gets back together with raven, they deserve each other.

And kek at raven going on and on about how Logan isn’t interested in girls aka “sluts” and that he wasn’t going to date anyone and how he doesn’t want any females contacting him.

The only good thing that will come out of this is a massive hit to raven’s ego bc you know she still thinks she has her hooks in Logan and hates the gf. I highly doubt she even knew, or we’d see a sperging like no other. Cue the “I told Dorian she was a slut!!!!!!!1111 all girls but me are sluts!! That’s what he gets for being so ungrateful to his loving and wonderful mother!!11”

Damn we had such high hopes, this is such a bummer. Dorian has been the victim in this entire cow-tastrophy, and he still is getting fucked over even after his narc mother skipped off oceans away to suck couch dick. I always feel the worst for the children of cows, it must be a nightmare.

No. 678391

>>678114
This is something I literally do not understand. Freyja is a NZ citizen, no? She doesn't NEED a visa to go to the UK. I don't believe that looking a bit goff in Immigration was ever going to stop her getting into the country. What is the real reason?

No. 678394

Yeah it's quite sick…Dorian always seemed like a nice kid stuck in hell life with that narcissistic mum Raven..agreed he is more likely to be a lifelong victim than future control freak abuser which Logan could be turning into..
Maybe they all ended up living together for economic reasons as well as all being " trama bonded"..AFAIK Logan still works and rents a house? So this was a way for isa/Issac(transtrender) and Dorian to leave her families house and have more " freedom" living with Logan.There could be a back story there …
Also didn't Dorian and Isa marry? His status to stay in NZ would be very sketchy otherwise..I assume that Dorian is now legal to work or claim benefits in NZ? So he is not dependent on Isa or Logan for a roof over his head. I wish him strength to leave this " poly relationship" if he is unhappy. It won't be easy with no support network..

No. 678396

>>678391
I know that a good portion of the time, when people go to the UK, they have to have purchased their ticket for their return flight home, before they enter the UK. So immigration doesn’t think your planning on over staying, or planning to skip out and live their illegally, mainly for younger females they’ll suspect that your going to try to live with a boyfriend there with no intention of leaving, even searching diaries, social media, and phones in some cases to try to find out your real reason for visiting. And you’re correct, NZ citizens don’t need a visa to go to the UK, and can stay on holiday there w/o visa for up to 6 months. And the UK has tons of goths, so being a NZ goff would never be a reason for immigration to not let you into the UK.

No. 678397

>>678348

Online Goth is lately overrun by whinny idiots trying to use "support of trans people" as an excuse for their snowflake roleplays and seeing nazis everywhere - like in this recent reddit thread for example https://old.reddit.com/r/goth/comments/9c5xjg/wgt_2019/

where poster is pretending that Leipzig is no longer safe for goths and in discussion there there was suggested that if you do not agree with that you are far right agent. And of course combat boots and uniform means you are sieg heiling at least 5 times a day…

No. 678406

Freya went to UK again what 2/3 years ago and was refused entry.She lived in Scotland approx 8(?)years with a bf(before mr owl)…did she overstay the 6months visa? That would have flagged her up at immigration.. as the other anon said they are on the lookout for younger women doing this..She wouldn't tell them WHERE she was going to stay this more recent time! Even if you are staying with friends you must provide names/phone numbers..all the while acting polite and grateful that they are letting you in!!!Book into a hostel or be prepared to tell them names of who you will be staying with! Have a flight out of the UK..UK immigration is extremely strict!This fact is well known. Especially strict on anyone under 35 who isn't here on student visa ..Freya stone walled them/acted insulted/ put out/ huffy and got deported..played victim.They are dicks! But you must play the game by their rules..no exceptions.IMHO she should have toned her look right down for important borders(common fucking sense) but her deportation wasn't down to her being goth queen.

No. 678415

>>678406
I'm not sure of the latest rules, but NZers aged under 27 (it used to be) could stay for up to two years for a working holiday, and heaps of people would extended-dance-mix those two years by constantly going on trips out of the country. If Freyja has a British grandparent - and a lot of Kiwis do - she would have been eligible for a UK Ancestry visa which let you stay and work for five years and apply for residency.

Overstaying might have done it.

No. 678429

I watched Freya latest "poor me"video..she is desperate to live in Scotland again(I think she is romantising her time living there)..debatable if she will be let back into UK and staying longer term ain't cheap( application fees and nowadays they love refusing ppl residency..unless you are very very rich or at least have a high earning straight career) is Mr owl going to be able to stay in UK longer term( British grandparent?)…seems like many hurdles to jump but clearly returning to NZ is last choice for her.I do think if a couple is solid they can be happy living anywhere. It seems it's all about what she wants..I wonder if owl is bothered about living outside NZ? Also I pick up a vibe that Freya is keeping her options open and isn't ready to settle down with this man..She is very restless and unhappy..looking for External solutions for her internal issues.

No. 678437

>>678429
Its alwayssssss about her. Nice work Sherlock. Mr Owl is a safety net. Shes pathetic.

No. 678451

>>678394
The poor kid is miserable. Look at his eyes in every picture. He looks like he's barely holding on

No. 678456

Julia is dating an old woman again apparently, sorry for link my pc is fucking up and I can't screenshot.

https://twitter.com/eileendefreest/status/1034601303119486976

No. 678463

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This girl must have a magic vagina or something because she's not attractive, and her attitude sucks. Her pretending to be a gay male pisses me off. I've seen a lot of people bullied to wanting to take their own lives just because they were gay and she thinks it's a joke. I hate people like that.

No. 678481

Yeah these trender types are annoying af,,insulting to LGBT ppl who fought to get full acceptance. Do Logan and Dorian both identify as bi now, since they are both fucking "him"??? Maybe both guys have zero confidence to socialise/meet girls and/or they think being with a "boi"is hip so ISA gets extra cool points.. let's see how this plays out..a few of these trenders occasinally do end up transitioning for real( I mean beyond getting a short haircut)..tho for 95 percent it's fashion!

No. 678503

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Adoras makeup is really bad when you look at it closely. I don't understand how a grown woman is comfortable scribbling on her face and gluing random crap to her forehead

No. 678508

>>678481
let's see. july 24th makeup and miniskirts. july 30th suddenly decides to go by "he" and pretend to be a gay boy. i wonder if logan and dorian are fucking each other too, ya know, since they're all bois in the house

No. 678527

>>678503
Her skin has been blurred to high hell.
It looks like 2D white printing paper.

No. 678530

>>678463
she's cute but she's pathetic as hell. isn't dorian like, 24, same w logan? how old is this girl?

No. 678536

>>678463
If Logan was married to raven, and became dorians step-father, and Dorian married her, then doesn’t that mean that this girl is fucking her father-in-law?

Or did she and Dorian not get married?

No. 678549

>>678406
UK immigration story, but I overstayed my student visa by like 10 days because that was the soonest I could get a flight back to the US (I was trying til like the very end to find work basically), and was super concerned about ever being let back in. I go back twice a year to see my partner, and get a barrage of questions every time, which is fine. One of the questions you get asked every time is if you've got a job in yr home country. My guy's bro's ex-gf ended up not making it thru when she came to "visit" because she had no job in her country. Maybe youtube doesn't count as a job the way accountancy does idk, because you can do yt from damn near anywhere. But yeah it's totally possible that Freya also acted like a dick in immigration and got properly deported. She seems the type to be drama about it, even to their faces.

>>678429
I'd like to live in Scotland again too because that's where my partner's at, but probs the best way to do this is to be very good at my job so I can have a good employment record and good references, and maybe get more qualifications, keep those dollarydoos saved so I can prove I've got money, and just keep looking for the work opportunities that employers are having a hard time filling. You're right, good career and/or lots o' money is probably the only way in at this point.

No. 678551

I read awhile on kiwi farms (raven thread)that Isa and Dorian married(likely so he could stay
In NZ?) for sure she is a couple years younger than him/Logan..

No. 678552

>>678503
go away, no one cares (still) you don't like her makeup style

No. 678554

>>678429
Edinburgh property prices are getting up there at London levels these days. Not the same as it was even a few years ago. Is she wanting to move to Glasgow?

No. 678559

>>678530
She might be 17-18 now. She was 16 when raven left

>>678536

That's exactly what that means kek

No. 678562

>>678559
ew, creepy.

No. 678570

>>678246
Not believing this for one minute. I can almost guarantee that Logan is no longer supporting Raven financially. Logan is living with his mother. Let alone, this would be the type of scheme that would make Raven relevant and get heat on her son (whom she hates) and His gf whom she also hates and bringing Logan back into the mix because maybe, he finally moved on with someone else. This reeks of Ravens fat fingers sloppily making up stories.

No. 678571

>>678570
Why don't you ask him then? It's all over her page. I'm so sick of people ruining good gossip by pretending it's made-up. Someone please contact him to verify.

No. 678572

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>>678570
Well theres this. Her fb is https://www.facebook.com/IsaDenneyStrother and this pic has her insta name. His is lunaxrot or something like that. She's listed as poly. Going on dates with him. He verified it. Dorian is a doormat.

No. 678576

>>678572
that's beyond fucked up, she knew the situation with raven/logan/dorian now she's just repeating it. poor dorian

No. 678588

>>678576
kind of dont feel bad for two dudes that are like 24 and dating/wifed up a 16/17 yo. sounds like dorian is starting to take on diana's tendencies tbh

No. 678596

>>678572
I bet Raven is smashing the trailer of love to pieces over this. Someone better send her some slim Jim’s stat.

No. 678667

She is 16 or 17? Jesus! So its doubtful her and Dorian are genuinely married ..how can Dorian stay in NZ legally to work/ study/ claim benefits or whatever he does?..did that rich NZ metal head Raven married( before Logan her schoolboy lover arrived) formally adopt him?

I don't think it's THAT wierd Dorian dates Isa, he seemed very emotionally young for his age in ravens vids…and yes a sweet kid,not dickish ..Logan was pushed into working by Raven.So you'd think he might have more " adult mindset" than Isa/Dorian does and prefer a sane girl his age( if he can get one)..Dorian is probably really stunted due to his life experience with Raven..Logan probably is lazy ,. just going for easy pussy ona plate.

Whole love triangle scene repeating itself thing is freaky af..this time with a young girl instead of old Raven ..even odder Isa is American (!) What are the chances..can't be that many Americans emigrating there..

No. 678688

>>678246
Is this the same Dorian gf that came to the farms to talk about Raven?

No. 678695

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TT and Jake went to London Edge, she looks significantly more "goth" in this photo. Think she has been reading all of her own milk about how she's been dressing like a child recently? Seems like they're making a big effort to be xxGOTHxx

No. 678717

>>678695
Probably more to do with going to London Edge and wanting to be the most gofffickk person there kek

No. 678718

She is the same girl.Her and Dorian were together before Raven left New Zealand

No. 678758

>>678717

ah yes, because there is NO ONE as goff as her and Jake in Belfast. kek
has to prove it, esp after that god awful photo of her meetup with Emily and those fans yikes

No. 678768

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I mean its a look i guess

No. 678781

I always wondered if Lovely GF was too good to be true. Never imagined she'd turn out to be a transtrending cuckmaker. Torn between feeling sorry for the guys that this is their life post-hag and it still fucking sucks, and feeling like they're lost causes now and I may as well save the sympathy for someone else. what a twist in the tale.
as for 'Isaac', she can fuck right off with that shit.

No. 678797

>>678781
I feel bad for Dorian and I even feel a little bad for Logan, but if this is legit I'm very excited to witness the Rage That Was More Than Rage when Raven finds out this girl she hates is fucking her ex.

No. 678798

>>678768
I was just about to post that pic here. The outfit is actually kind of cute. Does she look like she's lost a little weight?

No. 678802

>>678246
>>678570

Either way this thread reeks of thirsty, jealous stalker samefagging. If it was started by the girl who was crushing on Logan, she is obviously not over him.

No. 678810

>>678246
If he blocked you, how are you messaging him now? Or is it just you Hargraven?

No. 678824

>>678802
I'm over him and have been since he blocked me but I see him on Instagram where he didn't block me and he only popped up because he was on my recommended people. He's just as twisted as Diana but the opposite way no way do I want to be involved in this dirty triangle

No. 678825

>>678768
It suits her well, her hairstyle is cool. Now it's time for her to start dressing up like a grown-up all the time, not just for special occasions.

No. 678835

>>677980
I wonder what truly happened with Adora and her ex husband. I think he must have been the one who left because she simply won’t address the issue, and all this happened around the time she met that Ras guy and was always posting videos super drunk (she almost doesn’t do that now), she gives likes to the comments that say that they have gotten divorced and that’s all.
I do think she has something with this Ras dude, they’re kinda the same age after all, it’s hard to figure out from the photo but it seems to be someone with light hair or light colored hair… like Ras.

No. 678842

>>678695
Jake's instagram story of the pink haired stripper that looks like Kelly Eden was interesting

No. 679605

>>678797
Is this if herbs and altars Dorian?

No. 679625

>>678362
What do you know? Who is it then?

No. 679628


No. 679633

>>679605

No.

You can delete your comment and repost it with the correction, as per the rules.

No. 679717

>>678768
Wow, she is really thirsty for attention. I think this outfit is great for a photoshoot, but in public? Too much… Still better than the ugly pink clothes.

No. 679723

>>679717
Agreed.. suits a photoshoot or a club, but not in damn public

No. 679739

>>679723
I mean, it would be weird if she was wearing it in public as in walking down the street dressed like that, but it was for an event so I would consider a clubwear type outfit appropriate for that (depending on the event ofc), but I've never been to London Edge so maybe I'm talking shit

It's a little risqué but it's miles better than all the tacky pink Hot Topic-esque shit imo

No. 679744

>>678391
she use to live there with a bf and had work and for whatever reason got kicked out (probably because she lived there illegally), so now shes moaning because she wants to go back instead of being on her little shitty island (as she sees it)

No. 679780

>>679744
the last thing edinburgh needs is this attention seeker parading through the streets with her selfie stick, I hope she isn't allowed back

No. 679781

anybody noticed that Freyja's views have plummeted?

No. 679790

>>679781

Yep she's struggling to hit 100k in the last couple of months, needs to put out some decent content for a change.

No. 679796

I can't stand Kaya and her bright kiddie poo tacky fashion..Completely shocked that they both look pretty cool & punky goth recently( esp her,he just coloured his hair ,,she went all Su Catwoman!)for this London edge event..it seems to be for designers to sell to fashion buyers..are they aiming to get modelling work??? Or do they fancy themselves fashion presenters/tastemakers? They keep popping across the Irish sea to promote themselves but no one seems to be buying other than fat mall goths..

Sadly Freya's views haven't gone down enough for my liking..as soon as she stops with her pity parties and does another killstar unboxing or Gigi gorgeous reaction video(vom) she will get 298 k views again..

No. 679800


No. 679924

>>678503
oh my fucking god! I can't believe people STILL can't fucking understand that in this thread we do. not. care. about grown people using alternative aesthetics such as drawing on their faces with makeup. Honey, I assure you that most anons posting in this thread are alternative, a lot of goths. "Oh my gawd adora's makeupz iz so exxagerated yew guuuys!" is not milk. "Adora just posted a pic on instagram of someone sucking on her tit and she's still trying to create mystery around whom she's fucking. also, where are her kids?" IS milk.
>>678768
did this bitch lost a lot of weight? It looks like it. Also, first time I see her looking like an adult goth, not a retarded child who likes my chemical romance and thinks that this is goth is about.
The outfit is cool, I'd just put a bra or a cami under the fishnet top, the x taped boobs is tacky as fuck. Which year is it? 2004?

No. 679937

>>678768
Tits like that she is brave. I look at her and all I imagine is what her dad looks like.

No. 679964

>>679924
You can still see the fat rolls under that skirt kek

No. 680034

>>678554
There are more cities in Scotland than Edinburgh and Glasgow.

No. 680056

>>679937
honestly, not the greatest pair of tits I have ever seen but there's nothing wrong with her boobs, they look cute. I don't even like her but I think that she finally is at a weight that flatters her. If there's no photoshop (or similar apps) in this, she's looking good. 5 less kilos and she would be looking great

No. 680253

>>680056
Yeah she's looking so much better lately, I am glad she is more confident and happy in herself. Hopefully Jake can improve along with her (personality too) since he seemed a nicer guy when they met.

No. 680565

What's with all the TT/Jake ass licking just because of her outfit/weight loss? They're both still shitty, arrogant, attention seeking scammers kek

No. 680579

>>680565

Yeah, it just makes me cringe. Going on about hating goth from Jake, and both hating elitists but then wearing what the people they despise wear?

I don't have a problem with TT's weight, but I don't think she's lost anything she's just not wearing loads of layers and baggy clothes for once.

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>>678536
They got married it seems, and a month later they got an apartment with Logan, moved in July. As for if she can, she turned 18 this year.

No. 680610

>>680253
I hope he will fuck off and she thrives without him.

No. 680613

>>680598
This is the same girl anons fawned over and called lovely… she's fucking him over. Pretty obvious ly a narc soaking up all the attention here back then, but it wasn't cool to say at the time.

No. 680628

>>680610
He's the only one that gets her out of the house tbf

No. 680843

>>680613
why so bitter, anon?
it wasn't "obvious", she was connected to the cow and gave us a lot of answers we wanted. I can't speak for other anons, but while I did not fawn over her, I did give her the benefit of the doubt because I wanted things to be better for Dorian. And we really had no reason to judge her otherwise at the time. Shit that has happened since changes the picture a lot, obviously.

No. 680927

>>680613

Dorian and Logan are both adults and are in a consensual poly relationship with her.

None of them are eligible to be subjects of this thread. Quit trying to make them subjects and take your thirst elsewhere.

No. 680975

>>680927
Yeah anon, because it's perfectly normal to be having sex with your ex stepsons wife. There's at least 7-8 years between them, not too much but considering Dorian was in his 20s and dating a 16 year old who is now dating his ex stepdad it's wrong on many levels. They were family for over 5 years. Notice they got married 2 days after Cravens wedding, I think there's also milk there. I sense a lot of untapped drama here

No. 680982

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>>680843
This bitch is a borderline cow herself. "Gay boy"? Get over yourself and grow up, "Isaac". Stop pretending to be a gay guy you attention whore.

No. 681000

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loses a tiny bit of weight
jake:

No. 681001

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Jake liked this post some desperate girl sent him

No. 681048

>>680034
Not if you want some kind of scene. You could go Stirling, but no one in their right mind wants to move to Stirling.

No. 681061

>>681048
The cathouse just at Glasgow train station would be pretty hip. If she can stand the 16 year old scenic boppers

No. 681073

>>681048
Aberdeen has a scene, and local band(s?). Plus all that drear granite has got to be pretty Goth, right?

>>681061
Stigmata at Ivory Blacks is where its at

No. 681080

>>681000
In order to do that he would have to be goth or alt.

The only thing he could advertise with his image is a pot noodle.

No. 681130

>>680927
they've been subjects for a while already mini mod so untwist those panties and move along.

>>680975
I'm starting to feel like they're a lot more damaged than we thought, and it is playing out in a fascinating and fucked up dynamic.

>>680982
god, wtf happened to her. she seemed relatively together, and now she is going full tard. did she start watching Lainey and decide to skinwalk her or something, jfc

No. 681175

>>681048
She doesn't need a gothic scene. For what? She has been in several European countries and has never participated in the local scene, except for some festivals.

No. 681261

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Is this position really necessary? Why not do other ones that have the benefits of yoga without risking the safety of a fetus? Oh wait, then it wouldn’t an attention seeking photo op.

No. 681276

>>681261

>beloved husband

>beloved yoga instructor
>beloved cat

Bitch needs a word a day calendar, damn.

No. 681283

>>678463
>>678481
>>678781
>>680982
>>681130

She's been on the poly transtrender train for a while.

https://ramonamag.com/tag/isa-denney-strother/

Accusing her of "fucking over Dorian" completely denies him his agency.

No. 681288

>>680843
I never said a word in that thread as I didn't want to compromise those answers she relayed to us. But we don't all have to think the same way. To me, she also basked in that glory and loooved being called "lovely gf" while making pronouncements about Dorian's therapy and plans. Information that she could have kept private, we are just a bunch of anons afterall. She went from relaying messages to writing his story in a way. People who labelled her "lovely gf" just fed it. If you think she's not now proving to be an attention whore based on what we're seeing here I'd love to hear your reasons for why. It's my view that people don't just suddenly become cows, they pretty much always are.

No. 681325

>>681288
I completely agree with this. It's quite a regular occurrence when someone comes to a thread with milk, and the poster usually turns out to be a cow themselves. I'm glad someone sees it that way too.

No. 681337

>>681288
I spoke with her a few times during her time on the thread, feeding her compliments and encouraging her to continue to give us dirt. From the things she said to me, it appears that she felt by offering milk here it automatically made her safe, and the more she gave us the safer and more loved she would be. She embellished dorian's responses and strong armed him into allowing her free speech here by making it out to be their key to never being posted themselves. One day she stopped posting and I wonder if he finally got the balls to make her stop. Imo the whole family is fucked up and deserves to be here. Diana was a horrible mother but she did have a few points when it came to him not wanting to work, shower, or take care of himself. From memory, Isa was bullied out of America for being a pretentious windbag, and Logan should know better than to get himself into another milky relationship. They all deserve each other and I only wish there was more to post about on the whole situation like back in the good days of Gravy-splerge meltdowns. I don't think any of them are innocent in their respective situations

No. 681351

>>681337
You're a better cow psychologist than me.

I still extend a lot of slack to Dorian because he's had a very neglectful and abusive life, everyone he's depended on has hurt him badly. It's not unusual to emerge as a young adult from that completely apathetic. I'll wager he's deeply depressed. The problems don't go away because the abuser has (see Venus) and when the abuse is this profound and a support system nonexistent, it's a hard road in life.

These guys are gravitating towards a girl who I'll wager is a 'baby Raven'. It's a shitty dynamic they know and feel comfortable with. Raven did the grooming for years then bailed, and Isa can swoop in and exploit these damaged souls.

No. 681382

>>678768
She has no idea lol. I cant stop laughing…

No. 681386

>>678503
>Adoras makeup is really bad when you look at it closely. I don't understand how a grown woman is comfortable scribbling on her face and gluing random crap to her forehead

Bad? She is better than 90% of the scene xD(xD)

No. 681388

>>679790
Her content is on its way out just like her. Pfff…. next.

No. 681389

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>>681386
plus her makeup is pretty typical for 80s inspired one

No. 681400

>>681351
That's exactly what it seems like she's doing. She's obviously an attention whore- coming here to give dirt even at the expense of her boyfriend's privacy, pretending to be a gay boy, and now having sex with the both of them. She wants all the attention no matter the cost and she's taking advantage of a boy (Dorian) who simply lacks the capacity to stand up for himself out of fear of being alone. She's an abuser-in-training, moving up to be the next Raven.

>>680982
Does this mean that Dorian and Logan now identify as gay themselves, and are they also having sex with each other?

No. 681415

>>681283
He is a man child raised in an abusive situation. His mother mocked him for his skin colour and interests, then fucked and married his high school friend. There is a half truth in raven calling him out, he is mentally younger than his age because of her shit.

You really think that he made the correct choices jumping on the first girl who was willing to house him? He can have his agency and still be in a fucked situation. We know from Raven that he wasn’t ok with the poly life with how she picked up on it to hurt him. But we also know the he literally has no one in his life besides Logan and his now wife. Sadly not surprising he married someone similar to his mother.

No. 681427

>>681415
I know he wasn't ok with the poly life but I don't recall her picking on him over it, only getting angry because he pretended she was the one with the issue instead of addressing it himself. All of that was stuff that should have been privately handled.
We all know Raven is a lost cause but I wonder what Isa's excuse is? She's a child who is already on a bad path and who only cares about herself. I wonder if she always had her eye on Logan, and that's why the feud with Raven was started, and as soon as she saw her chance she used the poly excuse to get him and keep Dorian on the sideline, helpless and too weak to speak up against it. I wouldn't be surprised if he kills himself one day. Imagine finally feeling like someone wants you only to have them fuck your ex stepdad right in front of you?

No. 681428

>>681276
rofl, i love you

>>681261
yikes, if he falls on her, he could kill the baby, but whatever, i guess?? She isn't planning to vaccinate him anyway

No. 681440

>>681427
She’s 18 ffs
have you met an 18 year old before, they mainly only think about themselves

I agree what she’s doing to Dorian and to a lesser part Logan is terrible, but I genuinely doubt she has the capacity to see how this situation will effect either of them besides short term fights

And why should she? It’s not her job to fix Dorian or Logan. If they disagree with her, or have a problem with their relationships—then it’s up to them to say so and establish their own boundaries

No. 681449

>>681283

Her full name appeared in one of the screenshots posted in the Raven thread. I looked her up then and found those articles and more which raised some red flags regarding her speshul snowflake level, but I didn't say anything at the time because anons were in favor of preserving her anonymity.

>>681415

As much as I dislike Raven, I am unable to believe that her immaturity, disdainful personality, and abusive nature developed without a childhood of at least some instability and abuse. She made the same wrong choices in relationships, but anons held her completely responsible. Why the double standard?

Alternately, what if it was Dorian taking advantage of Isa, latching onto her primarily as a way of escaping Raven? He could just as easily be following Raven's example of exploiting others.

Do we know that the scope of Dorian's social circle is limited to Isa and Logan? The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.

>>681440

She has been upfront about being poly and a gender snowflake, so it's not like Dorian and Logan didn't know what they were getting into. Perhaps she pressured them, but they still acquiesced.

No. 681450

>>681000
>>681080

kek

Didn't he "model" before with TT when they were both significantly thinner? It didn't work out for you then Jake, it won't now. He's so fucking full of himself

No. 681515

>>681449
I watched all of her life story videos before she removed them, and her childhood was unbelievably messed up. It's almost inevitable that she turned out the way she is, and also why she's a perpetual child. There's something about her that rubs me the wrong way though, and I feel the same way about her son. Even so, it's interesting to see someone else acknowledge that on here.

No. 681520

>>681449
I also did some digging on her at the time and tried to gently discuss whether or not she was as lovely as anons claimed her to be but got shut down, frustrating at the time. So tried of transtrender softboi shit, bitch you’re not a boy, you’re just not wearing makeup. And yeah it’s real heady to have two dudes sniffing after your shit but you’re tacky as hell.

Logan is…whatever, but I don’t blame Dorian for falling into the same trap. He has never really had a parent who would care for him and make sure that he’s safe. Kids like that end up needing years in therapy and even then the problems associated with narc parents can last for a child’s entire life. Sad as fuck and Raven is of course the biggest piece of shit imaginable.

No. 681525

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He does not look happy with his life. She looks like she's 12! What's the appeal? Maybe she decided to be a boy because she can't cut it as a girl kek

No. 681529

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>>681520
Logan is a mess

No. 681531

>>681515
a lot of that was fabricated, raven just likes to play the victim

No. 681547

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>>681337
She's a narcissistic attention whore, covering herself quickly in tacky tattoos, has poor fashion sense, and is taking advantage of guys that aren't equipped to make the right choice in life.
Raven 2.0 kek

No. 681552

>>681547
tbf she could be just as damaged as them, but she also might not be. she's young and i wouldn't completely fault her because an 18 year old is like a 12 yo, in effect, tbh, but all of this is definitely shady and i would love to know what dorian and logan are actually thinking.

it's weird that logan is such a pushover that goes for these weirdo tumblrinas and someone like raven, who, though she isn't a feminist, uses men to the fullest, because he has demonstrated such hatred for feminists, and has said some pretty (iirc) violent/really angry stuff about them. he seems like a very typical reactionary young, very dumb white boy, just one that's saddled with more issues now than most.

strange that he should go for this girl. does anyone know where dorian stands, politically? i'm just curious.

No. 681555

>>681531
Sorry but no one knows that for sure, and people who knew her irl have corroborated her stories. Remember a few years ago when she reconnected with a younger sister and her sister had become the one to take her place and got abused once she was sent off. I know we all don't want to give that cow the benefit of any doubt but facing facts she's just the product of her past too. Her problem is she's over 40 years old and should have done something by now to be a better person and do something with her life but she doesn't have any interest in bettering her situations. It's a viscous circle that her son has been caught up in and he shows no signs of wanting to better himself either, and now being married to a Mini-Raven that kid doesn't stand a chance. I hope that he doesn't have any children with Isa/Issac because that baby will be twice as fucked.

No. 681561

>>681531

While she was prone to hyperbole and histrionics, nowhere in all of the threads here and on KF was there evidence to refute her having had an unstable childhood and poor role models. Her mother jumped from relationship to relationship and married three times.

>>681547

She has at least two of the same tattoos as Raven.

>>681552

Look at Logan's mom's relationship history. It has not been the most stable, either: from his dad to stepdad to lesbian. And what drove him to want to escape his family at a young age?

No. 681575

>>681529

His account shows that he is working on his own art, exploring his interests, taking photos of the outside world, and interacting with his peers. But go ahead and post a single photo as if it represents the totality of his life.

No. 681587

>>681525
i just realized she reminds me so much of a white javi marroquin from teen mom 2, kek. like, exact same face.

>>681561
>And what drove him to want to escape his family at a young age?
i'm sure his childhood was fucked to some degree, too. unless he was just a kid with a raging attraction to middle aged women (happens, but we've seen that he seems just as attracted to young women), no 16 yo boy would've willingly signed up to marry a nightmare like raven. she was fat, divorced many times, with a child the same age, and no ability to support herself. you have to be completely destroyed in the head to marry that, even if she did pressure him. i mean, there was nothing for him in that relationship. he's obviously screwy in the head, but it's so weird how he can justify these relationships considering his politics.

No. 681590

>>681547
is there a name for the type of narc that picks up the scraps of narcissistic supply of other narcs? like they find a narc that's outed and despised, and snatch the opportunity to be positively contrasted against them to get the supply from that narc's victims. if it's a thing it makes so much sense for her and a lot of other people i can think of

No. 681607

>>681590
A narc. Sorry but that’s basically it, I mean, these people can practically sniff a person who’s already been abused by a narcissist out of a crowd. It’s much easier to continually get with and stay with the same type of person for them.

I feel for both Logan and Dorian. Dorian needs to make a clean break from all these people, there’s too much history and baggage there. The girl is nasty imo because she knew how bad the situation had been for Dorian, and chose to repeat it, with herself at the apex of the triangle. Logan is too dumb to know better and frankly I think he was just as groomed as Lainey, but time’s running out on excusing his shitty behavior.

No. 681609

Do we need to open a new thread for discussion of this situation? I’m not saging because I’d like the people who generally use this thread to weigh in, I feel as though we’re taking it over and it’s probably annoying. Maybe the thread should be Isa/Logan/Dorian? It’s definitely a milky situation, but I’m not sure if it would make Raven happy to see us talking about it at length and maybe it shouldn’t happen for that same reason.

No. 681619

>>681609
Probably should. I’m sure she’s lurking here too

No. 681621

>>681609
i don't think she'll be happy to be reminded that logan is moving on while her life is increasingly in the shitter, so i say make the thread.

No. 681738

>>681621
I agree. All that will matter to her is that Logan has moved on and with someone she hates. It might be enough to finally make her step forward and give us the rage we know is coming

No. 681742

>>681738
I’m thinking the same. She will flip out.

No. 681762

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>>681575
His "art" looks like kindergarten scribbles, and by "hanging out with his peers", you really mean fucking his stepsons wife kek

No. 681792

Ibf just uploaded ANOTHER haul. Jesus christ give it a break

No. 681904

OP anon here. I have the next thread prepped with a summary of the last. I won't be able to post it until after work if anons want it.

IMO milk is limited by only having access to Isa and Logan's IG accounts. How much more can their triangle be analysed and speculated about at this point?

No. 681960

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>>681904
Hey thread Anon, I went digging and here's some more of her links:

'ISAAC' SPARKS / "Lovely GF"

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwflJ34_0I0hBMVR4tM6V0g

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/IsaDenneyStrother

Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/isaac_chch/

Tumblr: https://floatingwafflesworld.tumblr.com/

Ramonamag Contributor page: https://ramonamag.com/contributors_post/isa-denney-strother/
Ramonamag Article, "Gender": https://ramonamag.com/2016/12/i-am-not-your-argument/

Hope this helps add to the new thread. Link when you're home!

No. 681983

>>681904
i'm into it. post when can, pls. at this point she's at least a calf and there will definitely be a milkfest when this shitfest falls apart and we should be prepared

No. 682069

>>681960
She’s a Kelly Jean fan, snerk.

No. 682107

>>681960
Thank you anon! Goldmine of cringe. I can't wait for the thread and to see what milk will flow from this calf

No. 682142

>>681960
this article is gone. has she caught on? was this cached or did she just delete it?

No. 682154

>>681337
>she did have a few points when it came to him not wanting to work, shower, or take care of himself.

so, you've never heard of conditions like major depressive disorder, or ptsd? OK then.

>Logan should know better


and you know nothing about psychology, excellent.

All three seem like fucked up units, but one is definitely the leech taking advantage of two very damaged boys.

>>681440
it might not be her job to fix them, but what kind of creature do you have to be to create a situation like this? definitely seeming like a mini-raven.

>>681515
I hate to break it to you anon, but fatso is a serial liar. all that tragic shit about her childhood was story time, tana mongo style.

>>681555
>>681561

actually, people do know it for sure, and no it wasn't corroborated kek. sure, she had an unstable childhood. but let's not forget stories like being splayed naked on the bed while guests came over as some weird punishment.

>>681607
all of this.

No. 682162

>>681960 'ISAAC' SPARKS / ISA DENNEY-STROTHERS / LOVELY GF (cont'd)

Google+: https://plus.google.com/102069373046505668124

Pinterest:
https://www.pinterest.com/denneystrother/

>>682142
The direct link worked for me, but when I tried to archive the rest of the articles, I got a server error. Ramona Mag might have archive.is restricted.

(Done with links, I'll post any others in new thread when that kind Anon is done at work)

No. 682193

>>682162
Thanks for all the digging you’ve done, anon.

On another note, I think getting the thread up sooner rather than later is a good thing. There’s much to be discussed and honestly, I feel like Raven gets away with murder by not having an active thread. I’m not sure why the thread proposed in /pt isn’t going to be a Raven and her spawn thread, as Isa and her shit triangle is what I’m most interested in right now and not so much Raven herself, but we’ll see, I suppose?

No. 682194

Why the fuck did they move in with Logan? The hell?

If anons who speculated that Dorian was originally the one crushing on Logan were right all this time…wew, that could explain some shit.

No. 682199

>>682154
How do you or anyone else know for sure? I remember it differently and I remember it clearly because it's the only time that I had any sympathy for that bitch, and it was most assuredly supported by her sister

No. 682213

Another unboxing!! Hahaha WOW so much cringe. Every time she opens with foul language it just suits her so well. YES you just do unboxings… show us to indicate otherwise and you might have some credibility… or never. Yep, real goth. Killstar tragic. Another tour, more black and living room banter. Can't get over this recycled cheap shit is surviving. Most of us wore pet store collars because we never cared for labels. I hope that 'space' in the middle of that dress covers the rolls.

No. 682215

>>682213
that mirror looks really cheap. antiques are better. i wonder if it will crack.

No. 682285

OP anon here. My area has been experiencing a severe weather event with power outages. While I wait it out until I can access the OP files, should we get in agreement with anons on /pt/ thread request regarding the scope and subjects of the thread per >>682193?

Thanks for compiling links >>681960. What are Dorian and Logan's accounts? Can you download the article texts as the webpage html?

And an archive anon should back up the most recent videos.

No. 682299

>>676104
>>681609

I'm on board with that. I'm not following the Logan/Dorian stuff and it's getting annoying seeing it clutter up this thread all the time, especially as it's rarely image based milk.

No. 682316

>>682199
I’ve been an avid reader of the Raven threads and I don’t remember it like this at all. Everything Raven writes about herself is histrionic fan fiction with her as the star/victim.

No. 682321

>>682316
That was posted on her Facebook around 3 or 4 years ago. I don't like to give cows any sympathy but when I see evidence of abuse or a reason why they are the way they are it gives me pause. That still doesn't excuse their refusal to improve their lives or break free from their situations (which is why they're cows) but some of them have had pretty messed up lives, and go on to mess up lives.

No. 682325

>>682299
We'll be out of your hair soon.

>>682285
There are no videos on her channel that I can see.

No. 682326

>>682199
why is it only you that remembers it that way? why do you keep trying to deflect for her? and why do you keep bumping the thread with this shit?

No. 682328

>>682321
>posted on her fb
>'evidence'
wew lad

No. 682432

>>682326
If you're talking to me I only said that once. I'm not the original person who mentioned it, I just remembered reading about it. A cow is a cow because of their actions but if they had a horrible or traumatic childhood, why lie and pretend they didn't just to keep them at the bottom? Admitting they had a rough life doesn't make them any less of a cow so I personally don't see the harm in agreeing with the person/people who remember that her past was indeed backed up by her own sister eyeroll

No. 682460

>>682285
OP, what’s up, apart from the weather? You have the links in this thread to copy paste into your own thread and clearly you’ve been able to get online to post here, would you rather someone else make the thread? Not sure why an OP post about ‘lovely gf’ can’t be put together and placed quickly in snow to allow us to leave this thread. Not being bitchy but it feels a bit like foot dragging, if you want someone else to do it just say so.

Apologies to the rest of the thread.

No. 682497

>>679625
All I know is if that is really outline of someones head someone else fits better that outline than Ras. But maybe I'm just seeing things that I want to see. But once again every time I look at that image I have that particular person in mind. Also what is all that point of making such a big secret who it is if she is teasing the "general public" with images of every younger alt guys that happen to wear a truckload of makeup and do not do instant tactical 180° retreat after noticing her presence. She is very confusing at this point of being half open half secretive. If she would openly say she is fucking with men in their 20s and 30s or keep it private it would not raise as many brows as current "secretive reveals" on instagram and in the videos are rising. At least I personally would just shake my shoulders. So she is having a certain intent in provoking publicity of her social media and us included, or I'm just not getting her intentions and all her photos and videos with different situations where most even alt "progressive" people would assume sexual context with other man are just a massive trolling.

No. 682521

>>682460
The Raven OP has always been a total sperg tbh, they always act like this and it’s a pain in the ass. Just make the damn thread already and quit acting like you need to conduct a feasibility study about it first

No. 682546

>>682460

The next OP file is on my computer. Can't post it if I can't turn it on.

Is it to be the next Raven thread in /pt/ or the love triangle thread sans Raven in /snow/?

No. 682567

>>682546
Start off the love triangle in /snow/ and mods will move it to /pt/ if warranted. Unless we have something showing Gravy as directly involved with the current milk between the three of them we should keep her ass attention starved.

No. 682598


No. 682638

Btw Good ole Gravy Monster is going by the name she had before she left
“Diana Perez”
If her and Ape man are truly married, there should be a legal certificate somewhere.

No. 682639

>>682521

Anons seem split 50/50 on whether to include Raven; another group is discussing it on thread requests. I agree with >>682567.

I always posted the OPs promptly unless anons proposed starving her. I wrote the summaries as the threads progressed so they were always ready.

>>682325

The two new videos on Raven's channel.

No. 682646

>>682638

It's Raven Sparks on their marriage certificate in her video.

No. 682660

>>682646
Then it’s a fake. She legally couldn’t use Raven Sparks here in the US.

No. 682667

>>682432
lmao keep trying. you were so close.

>>682639
then just post the fucking thing and lets get out of here. we've shit this thread up enough, and I have this funny feeling Raven is just busting to get into a thread focussed on the boys and Isa so she can play the victim and only made a few mistakes and see, they were the real monsters!

No. 682668

>>682639
No one is split, they want you to post anyfucking thing so that we can get the fuck out of someone else’s thread, you’re kidding me with this shit.

No. 682669

>>682567
This please and thanks.

No. 682673

>>682668
As an Anon who doesn't care about Raven, stop waiting on power cut Anon, and someone else can make the thread. I'd do it if I knew what any of you were talking about. Put it in Snow for now since that's where conversation is currently occurring.

No. 682720

>>682673
Okay let's get moving to the new Isa/Logan/Dorian thread and let the altcows thread get back on topic:
>>>/snow/682714

Can you please bring any links or info you can think of over to the thread. The OP is basic but we had to move on, we can fill the rest of the story in with comments.

No. 682757

>>681415
>His mother mocked him for his skin colour and interests

Lowkey funny to me because he literally gets his skin color from her. Raven lightened her skin and apparently seems to think lightening her skin will stop her original skin tone from passing on to her kid/s.

>>682213
Is she getting paid to do this? These videos are so boring, where is the DIY, or at least thrifting videos? Killstar and Dollskill remind me of Instagram "goths" who run in the Soundclout circles. It's no wonder her style is so easy to copy, it's very cookie cutter, sad.

No. 682918

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No. 682968

>>682918
Hoe Lee Fucking Sheat

No. 682980

>>682918
this is stupid af. idgi if you don’t even like the music, half the fun is dancing at goth clubs and if you think the music sucks why bother wearing the fashion.

No. 682994

>>682918
what the hell? As annoying as Drac comes across, I always thought she was goth because she seemed to be into the music. Turns out she's just another darkly inclined poser, eh…

No. 682995

>>682918
>>682918
I personally have never thought Drac was goth. She comes off as those girls who "become" alternative to hide the fact that they aren't attractive (like Henrietta from South Park, but I mean, at least Henrietta likes goth music).

Anyone else remember her video for babybats? If I'm remembering correctly, in that videos she was saying you don't have to listen to goth music to be goth, but you just have to "know your shit". It's like a "metalhead" saying "oh no, you don't have to like or listen to metal, you just have to know your shit!".

>>682994
She's a Mansonite. Always has been and she always will be, it's probably why her goth facade has been somewhat good, she just came off as someone who has mallgoth styling instead of a poser. I also don't believe the bottom part of her text, she's given glimpses into her music tastes before and "surprise, surprise" (not really tho) it's mostly metal.

No. 683008

You have no right to talk about me or any of my relationships! What goes on in our house has nothing to do with any of you. If Dorian wasn't happy he'd leave, now leave us alone!

No. 683009

>>683008
you are not even very secretive about it, nothing surprising people are talking about that

No. 683014

>>683008

Somebody tipped the cow

No. 683044

>>683008
>If Dorian wasn't happy he'd leave

You mean how someone can "just leave" their partner if they're being emotionally and physically abused? Because it's that simple right?

No. 683045

>>683044
He's not abused he knows exactly what's going on, you people don't have any right to violate our privacy! I'm not going to tell you again you better take down all of my information

No. 683046

>>683008
Your selfposts should go in your own thread. Cheers >>>/snow/682714

>>683014
She's said she lurks anyway

No. 683051

>>683046
FUCK you mate

No. 683064

>>683051
You’re just attracting more attention to this thread by bumping it.

No. 683065

>>683064
This isn't her first time on lolcow by a long shot. She just needs to find the correct thread to vent in, which is >>>/snow/682714

No. 683078

>>683065
I'm not going to give you what you want. This is illegal and I'll be looking into my rights

No. 683082

>>683078
Plz go to your own thread, I don't care about you or Dorian sucking Logan's cum out of your coochie.

No. 683083

>>683078
You won't be the first, nor are you going to be the last to threaten to call the Internet police on a website for talking shit. Now be a good girl (boy? boi? fakeboi?), go to your own thread, and continue to entertain us.

No. 683086

>>683078
apologies to this thread but I need to laugh at this dipshit.

This is no more illegal than when you dumped on raven. and the idea of it being illegal to talk shit about people is fucking hilarious.
see you in your brand new thread! >>>/snow/682714

No. 683517

This is an old video but thought it would refresh everyones memory at how oblivious IBF is to the law. If you overstay the UK will not allow you back in. Saying you were rejected based on your appearance is not only childish but detrimental to those in the scene. The tantrum that she pulled also wouldn't have helped. She deserves to just end up in NZ pregnant and a nobody. No one cares anymore… your goth card has expired luv.

No. 683530

Im still trying to find a way to refund peoples money for the wedding fundraiser of my first engagement to mister owl.

No one got their money back…. she used it for a one way ticket. Now failed marriage at 43 mister owl still waits. Freya is such a user who always uses excuses and puns to convince her subs shes a good person. Sooooo selfish.

No. 683536

Maybe this has nothing to do with the thread, maybe it does in a way? But I watched this videos a while back, and I think what the women, in the beginning, are saying is still relevant, what do you guys think?

No. 683538

Oops, forgot to post the vid, sorry for my autism.

No. 683756

>>683536
>>683538
Oh if these girls could have looked into the future… The difference from what posers were back then to what they are today is insane. Also the amount of them. Especially since Instagram.

No. 683769

>>683756
>The difference from what posers were back then to what they are today is insane. Also the amount of them. Especially since Instagram.

Mind to elaborate more on that?

No. 683797

I'm not the anon who posted that there are way more poseurs these days then back in the 80s..I support that farmers contention tho..it's bleedin obvious ffs. Why do you contest this fact?
Instagram is all surface..and encourages poseurs.

Pre-internet punks or goths had only their local gig/ club scene.. or doing fanzines .subculture was far more an actual community that was music and culturally based than now.Goth is more known now by the masses, but only as a fashion.Far too many supposed Goths out there(exemplified by TT) that don't like the music let alone any deeper culture signifiers exist just to attention whore on Instagram!

No. 683819

>>683797
Thank you, I couldn't have said it better. Not to forget the amount of clothing companies that pander to all these instathots and their audience who only care about the image. It all very much shows to what an extreme the "store bought" gothic look has evolved.

No. 683838

>>683517
OMG what an entitled ho!
"watching my dreams dangling in front of me… and then to have it snatched away for nothing" like sorry dear but that really makes it sound like you intended to overstay again for another eight fucking years.
I feel terrible for laughing but fuck. UK immigration is a pain in the ass, and it's debateable whether or not they're "just doing their job" sometimes, but she's handled this like a huge baby.
Like you've went into the country with no clear plans, intending to stay for "three months" having overstayed for a long period once already, with no real obligations to return to in your home country, and like idk what yr financial situation is like either but gosh. Sorry but she deserved it.

No. 684165

>>683838
Yeah, if you intend to stay for three months these days, you better have evidence of how you're going to support yourself and a name and an address of where you're going to stay, and a return ticket with a date on it. Given IBF's history in the UK it's just imperative to do it so right it's shinier and cleaner than a brand new refrigerator, unfortunately.

No. 684166

Having said that, I bet she could go to Ireland and once there, zip up north and ferry to the UK. Nobody asked for my passport when I was ferrying from Belfast. Do it now while the border is so soft as to be invisible.

A risk but a nice trip anyway. Ooh and she could visit TT and Jake!

No. 684305

>>684166
Ugh don't give her ideas.
Republic of Ireland is in a common travel area with the UK, yeah, but that just means you get asked questions when you go through border control in Ireland. For me going thru Dublin (it's an easy airport to get around just in general), they always ask where I'm going in the UK, how long I plan on staying, who I'm going to see, have i booked a return flight, have I got a job back in the states, etc. They're a bit nicer about it, although the fact that it's been the same guy at border patrol 4 of the 5 times I've gone that way might have something to do with it, but the questions are still there and you still need to have concrete answers for them. I imagine to just land in Ireland and stay there, or pretend to just be staying there as the case may be to just ship up north, you'd be asked similar questions.

No. 684311

welp, a farmhand locked the Isa thread for 'obvious vendetta posting' without specifying what the fuck that was supposed to mean (there wasn't much posting and no 'obvious' vendetta) so it looks like we're coming back here. sorry, thread.

No. 684314

>>683045
You're a prime cow, complete with gendertrending uwu, mental issues, and going for worse tats than Craven, collecting the broken, dysfunctional doormats of men Cravy left in her wake, and we can't laugh at you? "This is illegal" Laughing at morons is not and will never be illegal. Writing three way "gay" fanfic about Logan/Isaac-the-boy-with-a-pussy/Dorian wouldn't be illegal either. Are you on testosterone or just being a tumblr boi for internet oppression points? Because that'll make you even crazier.

No. 684315

>>684311
Maybe obvious vendetta meant Craven was in the thread? She loves to stir up shit, and Isa is enough of a cow without the old fatty adding her own twist.

No. 684316

>>684311

I assume locking the thread was in response to >>>/meta/6463

No. 684321

>>684315
i think mods are trying to say the girl that wanted logan in the past was vendetta posting? but how is it vendetta posting? isabella is legitimately doing all kinds of weird shit to skinwalk raven (sleeping with/seducing her ex-baby husband, getting literally the same tattoos as her, getting married on the day after raven, etc). the shit is WEIRD, whether or not that anon wanted to fuck logan previously.

No. 684362

>>684315
Yeah well tell us the posts came from Craven Town then, or from NZ, or form another place. The rest of us don't have a vendetta, I'm the OP I don't have one, isn't that usually the bar? Mira's gotten redtexts before for example, why can't vendetta anon? This girl is prime cow material, if vendetta posters are redtexted we can step around them. Not happy Jan.

No. 684367

>>684311
Hey maybe don't post that shit here so this doesn't get locked along with it.

No. 684369

>>682918
"80s industrial"
Bitch has no fucking clue who Einstürzende Neubauten or Throbbing Gristle or NON are. Guarantee. Skinny Puppy is great, but you can't say you like 80s industrial if you like one band. Front 242 isn't insustrial they're EBM. Fuck.

She likes stater pack goth and doesnt bother to delve into more shit. Even though i consider fields of the nephilim starter pack goth.

I like trip hop too, but why bring it up when talking about goth? She probably thinks that goth isn't a punk subgenre. Excuse the music snobbery.
>>683530
I want her to make a video about that. She's very nice in person, but what a shitty thing to do. At least refund people's money (why did these idiots donate in the first place?). I used to really like her, but now I'm really on the fence about her. Especially since I'm friends with mr. owls ex and aquainted with matthias.

No. 684384

So true anon..ppl on you tube in general ( not just IBF) need to be held accountable! Too many are getting away with fundraising for a specific purpose then using the cash for something else.

I'd love to know what Matthias has to say about Freyja.. WHY the marriage ended from his perspective. We are in the dark really..

Re:Mr owls ex, many here will guess that she says the man is a total pushover and his relationship with Freyja is on the one sided side..all about her needs/ wants/career on you tube..

Re:the locked Isa/Dorian/Logan thread..can a mod tell us if Raven was posting on it? Thanks

No. 684385

>>684369
Freya does whatever she wants for attention. She seems to think gaining efame equals success. Not to mention using anyone to get what she wants. Life isnt about being a goth queen sideshow and filming your life and beloved story telling (true or false). She is literally in a country alone and has no direction. She also laughs at her fans. I also know her true character. Absolute bitch.

No. 684387

>>684384
Being paid to live by strangers to travel or raise money for things is ridiculous. Get a job and earn it. Parasites who prey on the people who are dumb enough to give them money!

No. 684451

>>684387
Speaking of preying parasites, what happened to TT and Jake's pins? They made a big deal announcing they now have shitty pins up for sale and the last I remember it mentioned was in a months old TT video about how they are "delayed" or some bull excuse like that. Now? Nothing. The site they were selling them is down as well, so did they just take a bunch of orders/money and hoped everyone would magically forget? WHY does no one call them out on their scamming shit??

No. 684453

>>684451
>WHY does no one call them out on their scamming shit??

Ggoths are known to be easy to get scammed - they don't protest or fill complaint to the police - look how easy Andreas Nicholas scammed goths 3 or 4 times with his pikes producing companies that typically stopped delivering orders after about 1-2 years without any notifications or returning money. I guess goth community is so socially awkward they are ideal target for scammers.

No. 684454

>>684451
Im sure if there were people who paid for them have said something? Perhaps someone needs to make a video about these things? Kaya and Freya are both parasites.

No. 684455

>>684451
I have see TT retweet photos of people who have received their pins etc. More importantly, why aren't they being called out for the MAG Kickstarter they did about two years ago which they didn't deliver on ?

No. 684472

>>684455
Oh, so people received the pins then, at least? I'm confused, as someone is saying the site is down, etc., which seems pretty suspicious.

No. 684525

>>684385
> I also know her true character. Absolute bitch
Do you have dirt on her you would like to share?

No. 684647

>>684321
I think the mod has a hard on for gayboy/poly/snowflake raven 2.0

No. 684652

>>684384
Are you really friends with Nadia?
If so, did Mr. Owl dump her without question when IBF decided she wanted him back?

No. 684723

>>684453
Oh, fuck. That just recently happened to a friend of mine. Plus his pikes fell apart on me at wgt last year. Cheap shit.
>>684652
I am. Basically, yeah. They split up before ibf announced that her and matthias split and she was back with barnaby. She's pretty over the whole thing now.

No. 684962

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Any guesses?

No. 685000

>>684962
god shes so unattractive

No. 685047

>>684647
Stuff like this kinda confirms the vendetta.

No. 685086

>>684723
I’m so glad she’s over it.
It just came across like Nadia was a bench warmer and was dropped once IBF decided she wanted Mr. Owl back. I speculate that there might’ve been emotional cheating between them until they broke up with their respective partners. The situation is just shady all around and I hope that IBF doesn’t find another person that she thinks is better(for a U.K visa) and leaves Mr. Owl in the dust again.

No. 685104

>>685086
I don't think IBF's fans will be dumb enough to invest in ANOTHER visa busbando
If she tries it at least it will be funny to see who continues to stan her

No. 685128

>>685086
Yes. I guess it can be difficult to draw the line re emotional cheating if you stay friends with your ex, but there must come a time…

I have imagined it like this:

IBF via messenger: "Things are not working out with Matthias. I think we're going to break up sniffle"
Owl: O RLY OK. breaks up with girlfriend So we are both single again gosh… maybe we should reunite.
IBF: I want to but I live in Germany…. what to do what to do… oh what the hell eh.

No. 685129

>>685104
Yeah, if IBF tries to fundraise for another wedding that will NOT be a good look.

No. 685149

>>685129
She wants a FANCY wedding this time, according to one of the latest videos. Lmao in other words a real one and not a weird registry one with no guests where she cries into her selfie cam the whole time.
Not trying to derail but that video killed me with how freaking awkward it was. I felt sorry for her purely based on the weird disconnected autism of it. I kept feeling like "why not get a CAMERA MAN at leaaasstt UGH" and the priest (???) pretty much told her to please put the stick down at one point.
Pretending, for the sake of argument, that she was trying to pass that off as a real non-visa based wedding, why the hell would anyone ever settle for such an embarrassingly bare-bones wedding. I'm not a showy person by any means but that's the day you sort of want to be BIG and dramatic- goth weddings are the most fun ever- that was just soooo sad.

No. 685152

>>684311
>>684321
>>684362
>>684647

Take the discussion to KF, then. They don't believe that Isa is dating Logan.

Oh wait, you failed to screencap the evidence before they locked down their accounts.

No. 685161

Something interesting about Jake's new blog is that Kaya and Jake don't share a bed. One was sleeping on the couch while the other took the double sized bed

No. 685162

Someone that everyone seems to worship is Jessica Lovecat/imastaythatbitch/mizyree (or however the fuck she spelt it). But i cant stand her.

She went from gringo chola to deathrock to some basic cunt with a bolt thrower shirt and leggings. Her personality is working out and getting high. She's such an attention whore. She wants a monogamous relationship, but posts nudes and half nudes everyday. It's clear she just wants male attention. And where does she get her income? She shows off her house and spoopy bathroom, but doesn't seem to work? Child support from her ex? Why has no one mentioned her on here?
>>684962
Daddy didn't give her money to buy the latest creepyeha pink harness.

Did she get a mullet? D-beat phase, when?
>>685000
I remember someone said she looks like marilyn manson without makeup nack in the tumblr days. I still laugh about that. Even her body is like a square. "I've always been underweight" lol
>>685128
There was absolutely emotional cheating going on. It's gonna be fucking awkward when Freyja moves back to nz.
>>685129
They're dumb enough. Who ebegs for a fancy wedding anyway? It's so tacky.

No. 685177

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at least there's one thing we know freezer isnt lying about

No. 685204

>>685161
Not surprising, I doubt they have any kind of sexual relationship either. They're basically roommates and should just fucking break up already

No. 685212

>>685047>
No it doesn't. A lot of people here saw the cow for what she is and are unhappy about the thread being wrongly locked. The fact that they locked their accounts down proves that they were lurking here and possibly posting, and there are screenshots of the convo and pictures to back every thing up as much as was possible, but others saw more on their pages but didn't get a chance to screencap before the lock down. Kiwifarms are retarded for ignoring all the proof that was posted.

No. 685217

>>685177
Oh fuck. I thought her skin was better kek. But can't be when you sleep with your fucking make up on every night because you're an insecure autistic goth queen who cares about looking good when found dead (being only 30 years old btw!). I guess that's more important than taking care of your skin to, you know, prevent getting wrinkles and pimples while you're ALIVE.

No. 685221

>>685217
Her skin is indeed very bad, looking at her older videos she was naturally pale and her skin looked way better than it does. But now, it looks irritated and is bright fucking pink underneath her clown white face paint, it even shows through her makeup, lmao.

No. 685229

>>685212

Screenshots such as >>678572? Epic farmer fail for not capping the full posts to include the "date night" captions.

Without access to their accounts the thread is dead.

No. 685235

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>>685161
May I say that I absolutely hate his shitty clickbaity titles in caps. They are all the same.
>THIS HAPPENED
>THIS WAS TERRIFYING
>THIS DRIVES ME CRAZY
etc.
He's trying to make the viewer interested in what's going to happen in the video but these vague titles just scream clickbait to everyone who knows YouTube and bore people as soon as they see them. I'd rather click on his vlogs if he included what the vlog is about.
Funny thing is that this video's title was about them tricking the hotel employees into giving them a room earlier because they acted like tramps and hung around and fell asleep in the hotel lobby lmao.

I'm giving them the benefit of a doubt about sleeping separate because it looks like they were fighting over the couch for a nap. Still strange cause I'd rather take the comfy bed.

They are also such mall goths for literally going to the mall and eating at restaurant chains. Why do they even vlog this?

No. 685244

>>685162
Yes! I followed her on Tumblr a few years ago cause I liked her look. Her personality quickly came through and I unfollowed her. Her husband or exhusband, not sure what he is now, beat her and she posted a shit load of pictures of the bruises and whatnot. Then a short while later, posted a pic of them together and smiling, and it wasn't to bring attention to the battered woman thing either cause she defended him big time when people were like WTF ARE YOU DOING? She was a mess.

No. 685248

>>685235
They could've just asked? I've been hours early for check in at hotels before and they'll usually give you another room if it's available. The toxic twosome are really fucking pathetic

No. 685259

>>685162
I didn't know who Jessica Lovecat was until you brought her up, and I have to ask, is she going through a midlife crisis or something? She looks like one of those SoundClout girls on IG. She and her husband (or whatever he is to her) are such obvious tryhards, she reminds me of Erin Micklow, who she's probably copying tbh.

No. 685292

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How is this not a milk-laden cow? There's so much there for the taking!

No. 685322

>>684962
So what happened?

No. 685324

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>>685322
She posted this shortly after but I haven’t seen anything else yet

No. 685325

>>685292
Who is this?

No. 685329

>>685324
OK, so what is the point of the post then? She posts this just to make people concerned, then refuses to talk about what actually happened. Attention whoring to the max.

No. 685397

Leaving heavy makeup, especially as much as grease paint for literally days on your face is a recipe for skin problems. And numerous examples of vlogers are excelent proof of that fact. That is not a rocket science.

No. 685615


No. 685859

>>685162

I followed her on Instagram last year. She posts the exact same selfies in the exact same angles over and over, always with a cookie cutter look. The few times I read her captions it was always a rant against her ex or some typical inspiratonal quote about not giving a fuck. She seemed tacky and trashy af.

No. 685885

Haggraven is back again on yt, time to get the new thread up an running so we don't spam this one to death.

Long update vid with prommisess of more.

https://youtu.be/Km1VgfAmFfc

No. 685968

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Kat Von D and Leafar are making a documentary. About their love or their veganism? I don’t know but I already hate this level of narcissism.
Link to article: https://www.livekindly.co/vegan-kat-von-d-leafar-seyer-documentary/

No. 685970

>>685885

The new thread was posted 7 hours before your post.

>>>/pt/573602

No. 685996

>>685968
Imagine being so darn up your own ass you make a feature film on your “twu lub” despite having 11 previous relationships, all lasting years and one being a previous marriage. Of course “the one” is the guy that knocked her up, I’m betting all her exes are glad they dodged this bullet

No. 686045

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I'm new here can I just say how do TT and her waist of time Jake get people to give them money for noting they on twitch now looking for money they not one bit nice what I don't like that they give goths punks bad name and Jake is not goth now he wonts go into modeling dear god if his head gets any bigger last week he was looking to move to London he keeps putting Belfast down but did stop both of them at BBC studio today .they think there only goths in Belfast.

No. 686047

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TT Head big oh god whish she give up on those thighs

No. 686088

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Baby Leafar doesn’t need a documentary, he needs vaccinations! Will they really forgo Vit K? That’ll be a fatal mistake.

No. 686099

>>686045
I briefly checked the stream twice within the last hour and they keep playing fucking Linkin Park. This is the same guy that complains his music taste is unpopular. Yes dude we're not in the early 2000's and this music has always been shit and normal people have outgrown it. It's also NOT metal.

They are playing the sims 4 and created uber goth characters (I think themselves), it's super cringey

No. 686107

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Due in November??? Really??? That’s gonna be a huge baby then.

No. 686131

>>686088
we'll see how his first year of life goes with zero vaccinations. But is she really pimping out this baby before he's born? documentary? I thought a lot of people cancelled KVD

No. 686142

>>686107
she looks like a MTF that managed to get pregnant off a womb donation or something. tf. i know pregnancy makes you bloated but damn. she really looks like she's got some gestational diabetes going on (which would support bAbY lEaFaR being so huge).

No. 686144

>>686099
Total cringe and I think they both think they look like them I'm shocked she not in pink .also see were Jake hoping for killstar to give him some free men clothing .I can't Waite see what shite he puts up on second part of when they both dress same .sooner people wake up and see that they use people as ATMS.better she going on about how bad her skin is and need new foundation like you face need clean and leave makeup off she sitting there with face all made up both pain and toxic as hell .(namefag)

No. 686145

>>686131
Without the vitamin k supplement baby has a big chance of dying or being a vegetable.
Kat will blame whatever conspiracy meme she last saw on Facebook instead of herself, milk the media, then repeat the process.

It’s the kids who end up losing in this. People like that don’t deserve to have them.

No. 686147

>>686145
it's actually so fucking depressing how people can just have kids and literally throw their lives away because they're selfish pieces of shit who are high on whatever earthy-crunchy bullshit they saw on facebook.

No. 686154

>>686147
Forever mad that because they’re stupid enough to believe in magic and granola it’s not classed as child neglect and endangerment when it very obviously is.

Kat honestly seems like she’s just jumped on the wagon to stay relevant which is even worse imo. She’s gonna refuse to provide an infant with medical care and proper nutrition in order to stay on trend and maintain an audience.

No. 686166

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>>686088
I hate that it looks like this documentary seems to be about praising natural home births and shaming mothers who either choose or need hospital care and drugs. I bet KVD is one of those people who looks down on women who had to have a c-section. Like it makes them less of a mother.

No. 686167

>>686166
Yeah, she sounds like a bitch who would down on mothers who opted to go to the hospital in case of any real complication. I can't wait to see this train wreck

No. 686173

>>686166
~positive vibez only~
fuck's sake, ppl should know the pros and cons of birth b/c it doesn't always go well and ignoring that won't change facts. the doc sounds fucking stupid, she's acting like the first person to ever have this kind of birth and i can't wait for all the 'uwu look at my vegan baby' posts.

>>686144
hey newfriend, you don't have to put your name or email, just sage in the email field if not providing new info.

No. 686182

>>686166
Until she needs one, then she’s gonna talk endlessly about how brave and amazing cesarean births are and how that’s like, way more powerful than anything she didn’t do.

Makes sense that she’s becoming one of those women who think having a kid made them magical. She’s fucked up every other achievement she’s made, gotta patch into something to fuel her sense of specialness.

No. 686246

>>686166
"Our bodies are beautifully designed for this" yeah it's not like there are hundreds of ways that birthing can go wrong for the mother and child or anything. Forget the thousands of years of women dying or losing their babies, natural birth is the best because it's natural!

No. 686298

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>>686107


Can a knowledgeable anon tell us if this is truly a 6 1/2 - 7 month belly? She looks like she’s about to drop that baby right there on the pavement.

No. 686300

>>686298
It looks a lot more like 8+ but I can't call myself knowledgeable. No way is that 6 months

No. 686306

>>686246
Isn't it kind of hypocritical that somebody whose entire career has been focused around things that are unnatural to the human body is saying this?
Also, this is the kind of shit that gets people killed.

No. 686422

>>686306
Lol, I've noticed this too! People with tats, extreme body mods, and a lot of plastic surgery going vegan because "muh healthy lifestyle", I think most of them are full of shit.

>>686145
I'm tinfoiling, but I think Kat is probably going to vaccinate her kid, but wouldn't dare tell her fans, as that's oh so horrible. If she doesn't take vitamins and doesn't vaccinate her baby when it's out, and the kid comes out somewhat normal the poor thing might die as she clearly doesn't know what she's doing from bad diet. Kat will probably be feeding it quinoa milk and soy milk, and not formula either.

No. 686447

>>686045
I fucking can't stand Toxic Tubs and her self-absorbed fat chav asshole of a boyfriend, both are just a pair of low life scammers exploiting their fans. TT will never lose weight because she's a greedy bitch, be it with food or money. Disgusting. And why is Jake so adamant on being labelled goth? Even if we were just going by looks, he doesn't even DRESS "goth". At most he looks like a hipster skater or some shit, no one would look at him and think goth. It's going to be glorious when they get older, their fans out grow them and they'll be nobodies who actually have to get a proper fucking job. Sage for rant

No. 686449

>>686447
Toxic Tubs lol!!!

No. 686460

>>686144

You're not meant to put your actual name and email on anon boards lol

No. 686461

>>686298

The only people I've seen who are that big at 6-7 months are either carrying multiples or they're overweight and carry most of it on their belly. She's obv just lied about the conception date because she cheated on her last boyfriend

No. 686463

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former goth model
or disgusting spotty alien?

No. 686465

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>>686463
Don't forget she only goth in Belfast on god when she gos on BBC her head get bigger .I to can't stand them

No. 686467

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>>686463
Sorry people I'm new to this she has to be like Kelly eden as did she do something on TV ad other day she post then next TT on BBC she so won't to be Kelly .one day people see true them

No. 686473

>>686298
To look like this around the 7. month you need to gain a lot and I mean A LOT of weight from the very beginning of your pregnancy (or even before).
It appears she has in fact gained weight (look at her chin and neck in >>686107 ) but she doesn't look wide enough in general and her tighs are still pretty small so I'm also guessing she is furhter in than she says.

No. 686479

>>686467
>>686144
>>686047
>>686045

can you fuck off or learn how to spell and use grammar correctly

No. 686504

>>686300
I bet she's taking a lot of pictures right now to post in the time she has to disappear from instagram because her baby's birth date is earlier than she announced

>>686463
can she visit a dermatologist ffs

No. 686510

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>>685968
>>685996
These are easily my favorite D-list celeb lolcows. They're both dumb as rocks. Rafael looks like a fifty going on seventy year old junkie, he's younger than Jared Leto but too-edgy-for-thou to try and stay in shape. He has a pancake-assed, pot-bellied, skinny limbed body like some old man, and now that she's all bloated and eating for two, they look like a farmer walking his cow. They don't even need scientology to look like a retard like Tom Cruise, they're their own little cult. And they're going to raise the baby vegan and without vaccinations; that baby will be lucky if it lasts two months. I hope that documentary clears the sinuses of CPS and their baby gets taken to a safe place.

>>686107
That is not normal. People who keep their diets in check sometimes don't even show noticeably until they're six or seven months along, some don't need maternity clothes until they're over eight months. She looks full term and ready to pop. That baby won't even get vitK, but she gets to eat whatever she wants? What an abusive cunt.

>>686166
She could end up not just killing the baby, but herself, if there's something wrong after birth and she bleeds out. Imagine growing up with a washed up, single dad in his forties who still does the edgy spelling his name backwards thing.

No. 686518

>>686107
>>686298

If she's due in November then she's due at the same time as me and she is a fair bit bigger. I'm not small either, I was a bit overweight before I got pregnant. She seems to be gaining weight all over which some women do, but I bet her diet isn't exactly peachy. From 7 months though my bump fucking came out of almost nowhere so it really does size up fast at this point but I remember in her wedding footage she was so much bigger than I was at that time. But It's so insanely different for everyone that none of us can draw a conclusion from her size.

No. 686520

Double posting just to ask if anyone knows if she has posted her actual due date. Could be the start or end of November and that month in progress where she is now makes a big size difference. She revealed the gender and name and all.of her other plans so if she's keeping the due date of all things a secret I wonder if it really is for the reason people are speculating.

No. 686536

>>686107
Seeing photos like this is quite an anti-ad for pregnancy.

No. 686538

>>686467
I mean, I agree with your opinions on TT and Jake, as far as I've been able to understand them, but you really need to work on your grammar and spelling, as your posts are quite painful to read.

No. 686560

>>686422
Going vegan isn't all that bad because at least it's good for animal welfare and the environment, but a lot of the ~natural~ new agey shit that a lot of them get involved in is a scam at best and dangerous at worst, case in point.
>>686510
>She could end up not just killing the baby, but herself, if there's something wrong after birth and she bleeds out.
If she's creating a documentary then there's a good chance she'll at least be a factor in the death of a pregnant woman or her baby. Hospital births do have their issues, but there's a reason why infant and mother mortality rates have plummeted in Western countries with the advent of modern medicine. Telling women that a 'natural birth' is the only way to go is completely irresponsible on so many levels. And who even gives a shit if a woman takes drugs to not be in excruciating pain during delivery? As long as the baby is healthy then it doesn't make a fucking difference; these idiot granola parents focus so much on things that have little to no bearing on what a child develops into while neglecting the things that actually matter. This is on par with boob nazi shit.

No. 686647

>>686538
English might not be her first language?

I was bored watching TT videos, the amount of times she makes excuses for her fingernails being dirty jfc, "oh excuse my nails I was spray painting the other day" "ignore my nails I just dyed my hair" filthy bitch clearly doesn't bathe often and has to lie about it every single time. How hard it is to scrub them clean when you know they'll be up close on camera? No wonder her skin is shit too

No. 686745

>>686647
Yeah, probably not. I was trying to not be rude about it like the other anon. But I really had trouble understanding what she was trying to say sometimes.

No. 686778

I am always astounded when I see people on Instagram asking TT how she keeps her skin looking so great. Are you blind or stupid?

No. 686862

She used to date a woman as old as her mom, but it seems it wasn't enough. She's on grandma territory now.

No. 687005

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What….the….fuck?!?!?

No. 687044

>>687005
>>687005
I… Sweet lolita ???? melanie martinez??? I hope it's the latter so freezer can get cancelled lol

No. 687045

>>687005
This is similar to what she used to wear all the time, don't know why she's acting all horrified. Anyone who has looked at her Myspace knows this is exactly how she used to look, minus the soft pink. She used to wear hot pink.

No. 687056

>>687005
Gah! Didn’t even recognize her, she looks horrifying. She should practice her makeup more and go into the transformation side of YouTube, she clearly has the face to turn into other peoples faces. also
>pls let this not be lolita fashion, just leave us alone

No. 687110

>>686510
Where is the milk? So far I see only anons talking about their insecurities about pregnancy.

No. 687111

>>686862
I would be very uncomfortable if I was her mom. Her mom has been in her videos and it seems they are close with a healthy relationship, I don't know why she wants to bang old women unless she is a sugar baby to them. She can definitely get a young girlfriend if she wanted

No. 687113

>>687111
yada yada yada, yeah, every girl is supossed to fuck girls her age yada yada yada

No. 687116

>>687113
Hi, yes actually you can get a young girlfriend. Why have an old woman when you can have a sexy young one? I don't get it.

No. 687119

>>687116
>Hi, yes actually you can get a young girlfriend.

Breaking news

>Why have an old woman when you can have a sexy young one? I don't get it.


Coz muh prefferences? People preffering partners older then themselves is nothing new. Especially for women.

No. 687129

>>687119
Its nasty from a relationship aspect, physical aspect and general mental aspect.
Its never healthy and 9/10 has some form of sugarparent aspect to it which again aint healthy and is straight up escorting kek

No. 687133

>>687119
Older ain't the same as old, that woman looks significantly older than her lol. She can do whatever she likes but going for a woman that's old enough to be your mom kinda sends out mommy issues/sugar baby signals.

No. 687143

>>687129
>>687133

>altcows dressing slutty and half naked - no fucks given

>altcow boy fucking older women - no fucks given
>altcow girl in relationship with older women - ay way, that's disgusting

seriously?

No. 687145

>>687005
Ratings are down. Lets play dress ups because Im bipolar.

No. 687154

>>687143
Its not the same anons every time and bold of you to assume thats everyones stance lmao

No. 687157

>>687154
>Its not the same anons every time and bold of you to assume thats everyones stance lmao

The last is predated by former, so it's very well versed, not just a bold assumption lmao

No. 687167

>>687005
Im bored. Another unimaginative plea for attention. Just because you live in Germany doesnt give you goth status… cant believe how someone lives for comments to boost her ego. Step into the real world she wouldn't last 5 mins.

No. 687214

>>686862
Is she even alt? She looks like a "pastel goth" poser, I don't care about her sucking the dust out some old woman's pussy, sux4her. Grandma is probably rich, the young girl is waiting for granny to die so she can take all of her money, probably.

No. 687219

>>687214
Or she just like to fuck older women. I fail to see any reason for her to be posted in this threads so far. Some anon just posts here every time she gets new girlfriendm which has nothing to do with this thread.

No. 687248

Y'all, what the hell happened to Snowy? She went from a tradgoth look, to some weird normalfag mess. Did Angela's video affect her that bad? Lmao. I don't think the makeup is bad, for normie makeup, tbh. It's just so sudden how much she changed.

No. 687253

>>687219
Her terrible music is also a reason for her to be here

No. 687267

>>687248
she's a retail artist for charlotte tilbury now so she can't really do the goth look for that.
can we stop posting her too.
there has never been any milk on Snowy and it has always felt like selfposting to me whenever she shows up

No. 687288

>>687248
She also seems to have started to change her look when she began to date some creepy fuck in his mid-30s

No. 687338

>>687267
This smells like a self post if anything

No. 687355

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Says the guy who listens to Linkin Park. I love how he completely denies that any good pop music exists but he's also someone who hates David Bowie so there's no hope

No. 687357

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>>687355
Kaya's reply

No. 687385

>>687248
> It's just so sudden how much she changed.

Sudden? It started around her haircolor change and progressed rather smoothly.

>>687253
How is that supposed to be milk?

No. 687392

>>687253
Ah yes, the post I was trying to respond to until I got a horrible 5 second ban! Clearly, the farmhands are ableist, muh ADHD! (Pls, no hard feelings farmhands, it's not your fault ik)

On a more "serious" note, I would've enjoyed this video if she had her grandmother gf as the other lesbian stripper (that's what they're supposed to be, right?)

>>687355
He probably also listens to shitty metalcore, judging by his band. Even Prayers is better than his band, lmao.

>>687385
I was judging based on her Youtube, even so, it seems you're right. It's still weird to me, she used to be super into the tradgoth thing and now she, like an anon in the last thread said, looks like a random unknown beauty blogger on Youtube. Oh well, at least she's happy.

No. 687406

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>>687392
>>687248
Maybe it's because she's only friends with normies. When you look at her insta there are some photos with them and she always stood out. Maybe she wants to fit in more idk. When she turned platinum blonde it still had 80's tradgoth vibes but now that's gone.

No. 687660

>>687406
Maybe the whole trad goth thing for her was an image thing. It's not like she was really into any of the interests that go along with a ~goth lifestyle~. I'm an old goth and this happened with one of my clubbing friends. She was full on image and music but not interested in horror, occult, blah, blah, then she met a normie guy, got married and when I saw her after two years she looked like any random on the street and was big on Cher. CHER!!!

No. 687669

>>687660
Adding, when I've searched for people I knew from clubs in the '80s, I'd say half of them went the way of Snowy, but it's the ones who never really seemed to be into the thing for more than the image.

No. 687720

>>687660
>>687669
I'm probably going to sound like an uber elitist (I really don't mean to), but I find with some people it's obvious sometimes that they aren't authentic, even when it comes down to their style. With Snowy, I felt the same way but ignored it because I thought she looked cool. Also, because she liked the music. But it was always something unauthentic about the whole thing, yeah her room looks ~*spooky*~ with goth icons all over her wall, yeah she likes the music and has the 'look' down (Uh, had) but something was just off. I hate to sound like I'm selfposting as this chick isn't really well known, but I get the same feeling from the IG user tibby_sioux, she's a cute girl but I can't shake the feeling that something is just off. It's the same thing with Erin Micklow even though she seems to like the music, surrounds herself with punks and supports their events/festivals but the whole thing is just so obviously fake with her, she's really just a parody of a punk girl.

No. 687725

>>687660
Hey now…Cher is kind of awesome.

(sorry for not really adding to the conversation)

No. 687741

>>687720
Ha, I tried to word it so I didn't sound uber elitist, but fuck it. That's what I would've written if I hadn't self censored. One thing that sets my unauthenticgoffdar off is tacky objects and jewellery. Shitty coffins and plastic skull things.

Back to trying to be nice, I suppose it really is a phase for some people.

As for Cher, I don't like her pop but she's hot as hell in Mask.

No. 687756

>>687720
>I'm probably going to sound like an uber elitist (I really don't mean to), but I find with some people it's obvious sometimes that they aren't authentic, even when it comes down to their style.

Sure, that's true. I'm personally living in a country where rarely anyone dresses stereotypical goth way, even despite the fact that quiet some did back in 80s/early 90s here. Just generic darker "rocker" vibe and some of that crowd are into the scene since decades. None of them is obsessed about the look, yet they will emanate gothness wearing just pink pants. Most can recite lists of goth rock bands in dozens.

The most obsessed about look here are mostly some generic "dark" girls who rarely knows even more than few entry level bands but their wardrobe is always "perfect" and they probably eat black bread only and that sort of things. They typically wear victorian and when asked identify as goths, cruise around most generic dark events and festivals. They mostly disappear from public sight around turning 25, rarely some make it up to 29 years old.

No. 687765

>>687741

>Ha, I tried to word it so I didn't sound uber elitist, but fuck it. That's what I would've written if I hadn't self censored.


I don't see anything uber or even basic elitist in what you said. It's normal that for some people participation in subculture is just an episode in their journey trough life.

>One thing that sets my unauthenticgoffdar off is tacky objects and jewellery. Shitty coffins and plastic skull things.


Well this depends on time period and general "wealth" of population and of course individual execution of them as part of wardrobe. I'm from poorer part of Europe, so it's nothing sensational to be spotted with artificial jewelry pieces or some cheap imitations of some other accesories, yet some manage to keep them within "punky" context, other don't. On other hand you can look fake even wearing 925 sterling silver, so… not to mention polyester victorian dresses some love so much… yet some manage to look quiet ok in them for some arcane reasons.

>Back to trying to be nice, I suppose it really is a phase for some people.


Well, yes. I agree. "It's not just a phase mom" originated because that is indeed a phase for many people.

>As for Cher, I don't like her pop but she's hot as hell in Mask.


Well, she also stand(ed) out in nowadays generic popstars crowd even if it's just because 80's had a much higher technical requirements for singers. Lack of digital mastering was much less forgiving than nowadays when you can have no singing voice at all and record multiple albums with proper mastering and management/advertisement.

No. 687923

>>687765
Noooo I didn't mean cheap jewellery like that. I mean how they stock up on the crap at Halloween from pound/dollar stores and it looks really try hard and sad, like putting fake cobwebs on their windows. That nasty stuff and they take it seriously.

Wearing rosaries was a big thing back then. Maybe Madonna put goths off because I don't see that much now.

No. 687943

I’ve been following Jessica lovecat on tumblr and insta for years and she can be super milky but mostly it’s just sad because she’s really mentally ill. She’s autistic and can’t work because of behavioral issues so she gets social security every month. Her husband and her are back together for the 1737362639th time after he was extremely physically and emotionally abusive to her. He’s supposedly mentally ill too but she’s mentioned before that he just copies the way she acts so he can get on social security too

No. 687967

>>687943
But isn’t it that he’s a former addict instead of simply mentally ill?
I remember her from the Vampirefreaks times back in like 2006 when she was the most rated and popular girl on the whole site, she stayed #1 for years and everyone kissed her ass, but she was not really that much of a drama person back then, she used to take a lot of pictures with certain goth aesthetic, more going to the melancholic or ghostly gothic style. There were people who talked to her regularly and always said that she was so smart and stuff but nowadays it’s so cringy to see her, read the things she writes, and the way she is, I wonder if she got hardcore into drugs too and her mental health got affected by it, there are too many drugs that actually give you mental issues that you can’t revert.

No. 688058

Sorry I don't know how to embed videos but some poor soul donated $1000 to MAG last night
https://twitter.com/MetalAssGaming/status/1040404005158100992?s=20

No. 688069

>>688058
I don't know who's worse, the Toxic Twosome stealing peoples money or the people who are gullible enough to donate to them… Why is this shit not illegal? It seriously disgusts and angers me

No. 688074

>>688058
What the fuck. I know people can spend their money on whatever they want but how do you justify giving so much money to two lazy "content creators" instead of donating it to a charity?

No. 688087

>>688074
But they are charity cases anon!! Don't you know TT has such a tough life what with her laptop and hard drive breaking every few days for the last 4 years!! Neither of them have any money to eat I mean look at them they're so thin!! How can we expect some of the same exhilarating videos Jake puts out of his ridiculously awesome trips to the post office and laundromat?! I know I wouldn't be able to live if I couldn't see those.

No. 688100

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lovely shit splatter makeup look, vicky

No. 688103

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sorry for double post but had to share this one as well. her new skull tattoo looks like something from the lesser key of soloman and apart from being super edgelord something always rubs me the wrong way when people get this kind of thing tattooed on their body. probably a dumb superstition of mine but demonic and satanic tattoos are like mere mortals fucking around with big shit we don’t understand idk.

No. 688165

Okay, this is my first time posting on lolcow so if I mess anything up I apologize! I will try saging in case this isn't milk.

RE: Kat von D lying about her due date–this has been intriguing me since I'm pregnant and due mid-november and her dates just don't add up. I went to her IG for some time stamps and found the following:

Sept 11th she posted she had 11 weeks left until spawn releases. This would put her due date around the end of November. (Roughly the 29th)

Since she's going the super hippy route I doubt she would subject the baby to additional scans/tests beyond the standard, which when you're pregnant you most often find out the gender of your baby at the 20 week scan, yet she posted 'its a boy' on May 8th, well over a month before she'd even get that scan. (I found out early-mid july since i'm due mid nov)

She started posting pics of herself in baggy clothes starting in March, right around the time she would have likely conceived or shortly there after and not even known she was actually pregnant.

It doesn't add up. The only way she could have known the gender of the baby that early is if she did a blood test. Even if she did an in depth 12 week scan and got lucky by finding the gender out that early it wouldn't be until around the end of May. Something just doesn't add up.

No. 688177

>>688165
Ooo anon congrats, I'm due end of November! Agreeing with all you've said here. I never followed her so I didn't know at what dates she said these things but it definitely makes it feel more sus now. Jeez it took till the end of March for me to even find out I was pregnant.

Regarding the gender thing, I am not American myself but have known a lot of American couples to find out much earlier than the 20 mark but that's usually due to a blood test. Maybe among all her hippy dippy granola shit she was able to justify something she'd seemingly hate, in their rush to find out the gender.

Also I really don't agree with dragging a pregnant woman for her size, ever, but basically if this is correct and she's due around the 29th then she's due at the exact same time as me and looks a hell of a lot bigger than me, and I'm not a small lady. Idk.

No. 688185

>>688103
Yes, it's a dumb superstition. Also, non-milk. You are in the ALT thread.

No. 688196

>>688177

Congrats to you as well! <3 I live in California, my doctor said if we wanted the blood test that determined the sex we'd have to pay for it out of pocket. Apparently it's just a small part of a comprehensive blood test and only covered by insurance if you've got a proven family history of certain things. She's very well off, so she may have just paid for it and not thought twice-who knows!

I also agree, not to drag her by any means, especially since every woman experiences pregnancy differently, but she looks pretty big, almost as if the baby has already dropped more in preparation for expulsion. Her belly is bigger than mine and i'm not a small lady either and this isn't my first pregnancy.

More than anything it just strikes me as odd that she's sharing so much of her pregnancy with her fan base but is coming off as really deceptive about when the baby was conceived/due.

No. 688236

>>688100
ever since she got rid of her hair she looks like she has a bobble head. also funny how she says she loves it but then complains dudes don't find her attractive. none of her tattoos make sense, she mostly goes for edgy shit for the sake of looks and is going to be a mess before she's even 30

why do ppl care about kvd's concception/due date? for all the bitching that goes on in this thread about non milk, i really don't get why this is such a discussed topic.

No. 688271

>>688236
Her head would look less abrupt if she didn't wear such extreme make up. Having such a severe haircut like that with the make up is only going to make it look even more abrasive. Also, that septum jewellery is utterly retarded and it looks like someone did a wet fart on her forehead. She'd probably be somewhat decent looking if it wasn't for that and the edge lord tattoos.

No. 688361

>>688236
Maybe because she was dating someone else very close before she started dating Prayers. If the dates don’t add up, that baby could be someone else’s…

No. 688449

>>687406

tbh, it seems like since she's spent the better part of the year travelling australia and asia, she's really changed? i mean, she's a young person who was mostly into goth music and some fashion, took a break from the community, travelled, went home and decided to change her life? it's not out of the ordinary for young people who get out of their comfort zone to change. I have never really doubted her sincerity when it comes to what she likes, but people change, anon.

>>687660

Snowy has always said that she really likes 80's music and tradgoth music? I mean jeeze, nobody is ever satisfied. Goths who age into the goth scene are called immature tryhards, and those who move on are called posers and fakes. theres truly no way to win.

No. 688485

>>687660
Snowy was never goth. She was a teenager living with mummy and daddy in her English home all cosy imitating Siouxsie. She worked in retail so there was NOTHING steet cred or edgy about her at all. It was just a fashion experiment. Little girls like that annoy the fuck out of me. Snowy deserved that video from Angela. What a poseur!!!!! Check out her Friends… hmmmm edgy.

No. 688493

>>687392
>I would've enjoyed this video if she had her grandmother gf as the other lesbian stripper

Didn't listen to the music but skipped through the video and had the same thought. If it's Tru Luv then why put a young sexy woman in the video and not grandma? There's also plenty of girls in the comments offering themselves up to Julia. So why has she gone for an older woman a second time?
Should be noted that her first girlfriend in Brazil was a girl her age, and they got hassled in public, which I assume is what the music video is a dramatic retelling of. (nobody died irl)

No. 688495

>>688087
>How can we expect some of the same exhilarating videos Jake puts out

It's amazing they have such dedicated fans tbh, impressive almost. She is nice but dull and he's unbearable.

No. 688690

>>688485

You can't help where you live or work. She liked goth music and dressed the style, what more do you want? My best friends aren't goth and idgaf doesn't change anything. If she wants to change her style she hasn't given up anything, she's living her life dressing however she wants. You don't sign any blood oaths getting into a subculture.

No. 688709

>>688485
lol that's the dumbest thing I've read. So to be a real goth you have to have alternative/goth friends and work as a fucking mortician?

No. 688712

>>688709
Not that anon, but I agree with what they said. She didn't sign a blood oath because she was never part of a subculture. It was all about hair and makeup for her.

>Thank you to who requested this video! I had a lot of fun making it :)


So much fun, she decided to do it full time.

Now she's back and itching to do youtube I bet she starts liking ~spooky~ stuffs again.

No. 688718

>>688712
Yeah I mean I agreed with them too (re Snowy not really being goth) but the rest of their statement was dumb

No. 688736

>>688485
You sound like such a fucking womanchild.
>You can't be a REAL goth if you're a young adult who actually has a job, hmph fucking poser not even edgy >:(

No. 688769

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>>688449
>Goths who age into the goth scene are called immature tryhards, and those who move on are called posers and fakes. theres truly no way to win.

How? Not in these threads at least. I've never seen anyone call an "eldergoth" in these threads an immature tryhard. I could see it if they looked like TT for example, as she is an immature tryhard but someone like Angela, for example? How?

>>688712
Ugh, it's just so unauthentic. I'm speculating here, but I think I'm right as I've seen this same thing play out a couple of times. Snowy is just a weirdo (not an insult, for my sensitive anons). She likes goth music, she seems to look it, but it's not real. Snowy, in general, is simply a weird girl who doesn't fit in with her normie friends, instead of just being herself and not labeling herself at all she tries to fit in with her surroundings. It doesn't work because it's simply not who she is.


>>688690
This is why I don't get posts like this, if she were goth, why is she changing herself just to fit in with her normie friends, surely she would've came to terms with the fact that she isn't normal already? No one has to look like Jonny Slut or Siouxsie Sioux's twin, it's very easy to tone down your look and still "emanate goffness" (lol) when you're actually goth.

>>688485
I agree, but not with the retail part. A toned down look can get anyone a job like that, only idiots who have to reaffirm to themselves "I AM DA GOFFESS OF DEM ALL!" by going OTT every day and ruining their skin by clown white face paint and looking like retards in general, aren't going to get a job like that.

>>687756 's >The most obsessed about look here are mostly some generic "dark" girls who rarely knows even more than few entry level bands but their wardrobe is always "perfect" and they probably eat black bread only and that sort of things. They typically wear victorian and when asked identify as goths, cruise around most generic dark events and festivals. They mostly disappear from public sight around turning 25, rarely some make it up to 29 years old.

Is accurate, these OTT people are simply tryhards, they probably look in the mirror daily telling themselves "I am goth, I know who The Cure, Depeche Mode, The Sisters of Mercy, and Siouxsie and the Banshees are. My hair is fried and I have ruined my skin with chalk water, no one is more goth than I."

TL;DR, major goth sperg. Possible elitist? Oh no! Oh well, at least I saged. My excuse is it's 8:47 am, and is about to rain here.

No. 688797

>>688769
Anybody who whacks on a "The Cure" shirt and thinks they are suddenly a goth now. The Cure aren't even goth to me, a lot of what entry level "goth" is were considered pop music at the time.

Snowy is absolutely someone who decided that because she doesn't match the Stacey friends that she's now a Goff, which is ridiculous. She blatantly tries to be "more" gothic to humor the viewers, then gets back into her normie gear afterwards.

No. 688817

>>688736
lol mte who even still talks like that post like..2004?

No. 688871

Early 00's documentary featuring among other known personas - Aurelio Voltaire.

No. 688898

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imagine giving these two idiots £1000.
you might as well have flushed all that money right down the toilet.

I hate to admit it but Jake really is too good looking for Kaya. She really just does not care about how she looks anymore

No. 688899

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>>688898
already putting that £1000 to good use

No. 688914

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>>688899
New shows alongside a 'Retractable Masturbation Cup'

>>688898
>I hate to admit it but Jake really is too good looking for Kaya. She really just does not care about how she looks anymore

It's sad because Kaya can look really pretty when her weight is under control, she looks so weird now. As for Jake, he looks kinda chubby so I think he's average. I won't deny it though, if he wasn't a bit chubby and stopped trying to be a metalhead and goth poser I do think he would be more attractive.

No. 688923

>>688914
And what the hell was she searching for in order to find that?

No. 688948

>>687005
>>687056
>pls let this not be lolita fashion, just leave us alone
You called it, anon.

No. 688954

>>688948
I'm so disappointed about this video because she could have used this chance to wear ACTUAL LOLITA FASHION, I think she's probably really like brands like Atelier PIerrot, Alice Auua, Boz, H.naoto/h.blood, etc. like for real the EGL scene has so many AMAZING brands that would really fit her style but she's over here in a cheap wig and circle lens. :/ smh.

No. 688955

>>688914
>I won't deny it though, if he wasn't a bit chubby and stopped trying to be a metalhead and goth poser I do think he would be more attractive.

That and if he had a complete personality transplant. He might be just slightly better looking than Kaya on the outside but they're both equally ugly on the inside, tl;dr they're fucking fugly

No. 688959

>>688797

>The Cure was pop music at the time


When and where? Not in the US. Not during the early 80s. I had to order most of their albums as imports via Burning Airlines.

No. 688960

>>688954
Not to mention that blatant misinformation at the beginning of the video.
>I can't pull it off because I'm old and not a tiny Asian girl
>lolitas are supposed to look like children and also only Asians can be lolitas lol
Please, just stop.

No. 688988

>>688959
>When and where?

In Europe I kept hearing "Friday" and occasionally "Pictures of you" like up until mid 00s on the mainstream commercial music radio station. Also their concerts here usually collect quiet a mainstream audience en masse.

No. 689021

>>688988
Yeah in Europe and the UK specifically it is considered pop/mainstream, maybe not in the US.
Since Snowy is from the UK I can say for sure the Cure are considered semi normie here. Friday I'm In Love and Lovecats are pop/rock mainstays.

No. 689102

>>688960
>Not to mention that blatant misinformation at the beginning of the video.
>>I can't pull it off because I'm old and not a tiny Asian girl
>>lolitas are supposed to look like children and also only Asians can be lolitas lol

And she does have some points here but she kinda has a face for it. Some lolitas her age I know about look like crossdressers at her age despite they were looking just fine like 7 years ago in same makeup and style. Well OK, maybe they should alter the way they apply makeup because of that. Their faces changed a lot. And also Asian women skin ages somewhat slower because it's thicker than caucasian female skin.Well you can wear that clothing even when you are wrinkled 90s something, no one is gonna stop you but certain aspects of general lolita style will be missing and clothing will only underlight how much you aged. Take a look at Strawberry Switchblade duo trough their career and how changes in their faces started to develope changes in general feel of their look at the end. There is a problem with certain styles that they are somewhat aesthetically hard to mix with with ceratin characteristics of body type and age (too young or too old - not yet/anymore possessing certain physical aspects that such style are designed to highlight, or having traits that these style unintentionally highlight/reveal).

No. 689109

>>688948
She should have tried a aristocratic style over the sweet style, she actually has the face to pull of the mature more "queenly" looks you get from that style of lolita.

The pale pink and white sweet lolita look is horrible on her,she looks dead (er than normal) I thought she was going to try for a pale goth look or something but I guessed wrong

I wonder if she thinks Lolita is all just cake prints and pink everywhere

No. 689119

>>689109
>I wonder if she thinks Lolita is all just cake prints and pink everywhere

I think she's trying to escape her past as a weird v-kei wannabe weeb who failed at lolita by pretending she doesn't know anything about it.

>>688948
These videos are pointless to me, but they get a lot of views from dumb people on YT so that's probably why she does them. I think an interesting transformation video from her would be a video on how she used to look, like around her Myspace days (it'd probably be just as boring let's be honest)

No. 689133

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I guess Snowy isn’t the only one going normie.

No. 689147

>>688948
Thanks I hate it

No. 689151

>>689133
I mean, it's possible to tone down your look at work while still staying true to yourself and then express yourself fully outside of work. Not everyone has to do this, but a lot of people do and it's ok. It doesn't mean she is going full normie.

No. 689187

>>689151
I mean, Drac just has her look going for her in terms of being part of the scene. She doesn’t like the music as proven here >>682918
So if you don’t have the music or the look, are you a goth or a normie?

No. 689263

>>689102
Sweet isn't for everyone but she doesn't look that bad, and lolita brands have released things that absolutely will fit her; plus, if she can afford all these hauls, she can afford a headbow and a blouse secondhand to at least make it look like she tried.
Having seen plenty of people who aren't Asian and don't look "child like" being made over into sweet lolita successfully, I can say it has nothing to do with ethnicity and everything to do with knowledge of fashion and makeup, but I guess she didn't want to dedicate any actual effort into it.

No. 689334

>>689263
She won't be paying for those hauls.

I totally get not spending money on a garment you know you won't wear for anything other than a video shoot.

No. 689335

The thing that makes me angriest about TT and Jake getting the £1000 is that they never once thanked the person that donated.
I guess they just expect to be handed that much money without actually doing anything

No. 689357

>>689187
>So if you don’t have the music or the look, are you a goth or a normie?

No liking of the goth music at all - not a goth. Elaborate complicated style clothing and makeup is just an addition that was created by decades of clubbing events by goth music community and was not that big part of of the scene initially when t was very simplistic mostly. And in many countries outside UK and USA it was mostly about wearing dark toned clothes.

Vidrel - Drac's video from 2015 "Goth for beginners" - presenting her outlook on the definition what goth is in her opinion at the time.

No. 689362

>>689357
And here example of pretty much minimalistic style of the 80s band Siekiera from communist Poland - looking like a cross of factory worker with state secret police with choppy chaotic haircuts and vocalist that faceplanted into a puddle of white paint.

No. 689398

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Says don't trust people who listen to pop music
Likes Evanescence

No. 689402

>>688954
Exactly. As someone who has followed lolita fashion for years, there are some legit beautiful brands, esp for gothic lolita. But some reason uninformed as hell people like Freyja think lolita = SWEET LOLITA and nothing else. It's obnoxious and lazy.

>>688960
ew, that's so gross. She needs to stop

No. 689416

>>689398
Uh god. Jake and Kaya are nothing more than mallgoth posers, simple as that. I hate that she is one of the top "goth" YouTubers that young people new to the scene will find first. Even worse they both scam their fans out of money. Absolutely cannot stand the pair of them.

No. 689488

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>>689357

The Blitz Kids of the late 70s would like a word.

https://shapersofthe80s.com/blitz-kids/

No. 689491

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No. 689494

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No. 689499

>>689488
Ah yes, New Romantic tribe. But in what sense "like word"?

No. 689502

>>689499

Abbreviated English idiom, "They would like a word with you."

No. 689517

>>689502
OK, but about what exactly would they like to talk about with her?

No. 689530

File: 1537119528727.png (1.33 MB, 1080x1920, Screenshot_20180916-142724.png)

>my beautiful #vegan husband
There's no need to say anything further

No. 689574

>>689517

Not literally. It's an idiom.

No. 689578

>>689574

I get that it's the idiom. Just curious what provoked it's usage - was it look or something she said in the video?

No. 689709

>>689578

They are saying that what she says in the video is proven wrong/myopic by the existence of the Blitz Kids (presumably because they didn't limit themselves to dark toned clothes).

No. 689714

>>689398
This. When I was newer to the scene, I came across Toxic Tubs and Freezer. Impression was goff = buy stuff. At least Freezer knows her music.
Granted, they were less milky then, but with what's accumulated now (scamming, etc) it's shitty they are the "big names".

No. 689896

>>689357
I think IBF's video was better for beginner goths. She went right to the point, we aren't emo, and goth is a music based subculture. Drac's video is unnecessarily long, should've just titled it "How To Be A Goth Poser" tbh.

And damn, I've said it before but it's really obvious now that I'm rewatching some of her videos, she truly is a Mansonite. Even down to her makeup lmao. I also hated that video of hers where she was basically saying you don't have to like goth music, but you have to know the bands so you don't get called a poser.

No. 689994

>>689578

It was in response to

>Elaborate complicated style clothing and makeup is just an addition that was created by decades of clubbing events by goth music community and was not that big part of of the scene initially

No. 690071

>>687248

She wasn’t goth in the first place, it felt like she just hopped on the trend as quickly as she got off it. Heck she was the one who said you don’t have to listen the music to be goth in the first place. Just another poser.

No. 690078

Drac, ReeRee and TT all have "how to get into goth" videos when none of them are goth, kek

No. 690137

File: 1537188987721.png (1.41 MB, 1080x1788, why.png)

Ugh why is he so obsessed with pulling down his pants when he's showing off his body? It's so uncomfortable lmao. I wonder what Kaya thinks. There is absolutely no need for that except you're trying to be sexually suggestive.

No. 690142

File: 1537190381762.png (1.68 MB, 1080x1787, freezer.png)

In other news: Freezer finally got her UK visa

No. 690193

>>690137
What's there to be proud of here? He#s untoned and pudgy. I honestly think they don't have a sexual relationship at all, it might explain why she found this >>688914 kek

>>690142
Oh god, keep away from us in the UK. Is she gonna dump Mr Owl for a British husband now?

No. 690371

>>690193
He looks like he has some muscle, but alas, it is hidden under fat which is fine as you'd assume he's been bulking - but I can't see him ever cutting enough to get the ripped look he wants. These two never seem to eat properly, which is good if you're doing a dirty bulk (kinda) but not if you're after that defined look which Jake seems to think he has going on.

And yes please. The UK does not want Freya back. I wonder how she wangled that one.

No. 690449

Kaya just put out a collab video. I guess she had less control of angles (or her diet kek) cos her double chin is huge.
And there was the London Edge picture upthread making me think she lost weight.

No. 690512

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Kaya said on Twitter that she was upset editing her new video because she looks fat in it even though she insists shes losing weight.

The camera doesn't lie Kaya

No. 690513

>>690137
didn't he say before that he had his six pack back….

No. 690561

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Ahh yes. A time of need to fill her empty cupboards. Yet she can afford to goto the uk!

No. 690713

>>690561
If Mr. Owl is in NZ, why is she going to the UK? Now I'm sure she's about to leave him again and get a British goth hubby.

New video by ReeRee. Inb4
>SHE IS NOT EVEN GOTH
Yeah, but she's still alt tbh.

No. 690726

>>690561
Huh, what does this mean? What time of need? Is she going to pretend that she doesn't even have money for food now in order to get more Patreon bux? And is she also unable to cook for herself? Jeesh.

No. 690832

>>689398
Oh gosh he’s such a pussy

No. 690839

>>690713
This video was all about her miscarriages and the one she had a few months ago. Nothing about goth or anything just her mental and where her mind is at from the miscarriage.

As for Friday with her “time in need” yeh. It’s her crying too poor to fill her cupboards with food

No. 690856

>>689488
Literally. I'm #notagoth and back in the days when people thought I was a goth, I was also #hotagoth, BUT the alternative scene from early punk onward had a HELL of a lot to do with aesthetic. Creating an individual and dramatic look was paramount. And the music that was enjoyed in the Blitz and clubs that emulated it was very eclectic./coolstorybro

No. 690885

>>690142

Saged for no milk, but where does the nickname Freezer come from?

No. 690903

Did this autist really encourage a 14 year old who is dating for "over a year" a 28 year old?

(0:37)

No. 690908

>>690512
No really, I don’t think I’ve seen worse eyebrows in my life. They make her face look as big as a planet.
But she insists.

No. 690955

>>690885

It is a dual pun on her name and dig at the fact that she is asexual.

No. 690959

>>690903
Nothing weird about age gap relationships even if one of them is a child!

She's sticking fast to the stance even in ridiculous cases, it seems.

No. 690996

>>690959

I hate how she says it's illegal but she still encourages her. Even if she is in an age gap relationship she is an adult but literal 14 year olds have no business with guys in their late 20's.

No. 691017

>>690996
What are the local laws there BTW? Here anyone can legally fuck someone who turned 15.

No. 691022

>>690903
Wow! Any normal person would tell her to stay the fuck away from a 28 year old. There is no case in which that is okay ffs. 14 year olds aren't mentally developed enough for relationships with adults and it's forbidden for a good reason. What a dumbass.

No. 691114

Jake and Kaya posting about how much they NEED the new Killstar clothing knowing full well they'll never hand over a penny for any of it and just want more free shit

No. 691122

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I always wondered what irks me so about Dres face… something that made her look just weird. I shopped her face shorter and the difference is dramatic.

No. 691139

>>691122
What an ogre. I really can't stand her cause she's the epitome of a mallgoth/emo who only wears hot topic and killstar

No. 691215

>>691122
Yeah idk you just made her look like an alien kek

No. 691218

>>691215
yeah i don't think she needs a brand new skull. she just needs to lose some weight and her features won't look tiny floating on a doughy face.

No. 691224

>>691215
You gotta be blind. The edit looks WAY better than her original face, in fact it looks her original face is some kind of shrek ogre edit.

No. 691317

>>689530
>vegan vegan vegan

imagine if this was your entire identity.

No. 691766

>>691317
People have to fill emptiness in their life somehow

No. 691787

>>690142
>>690193
She’s totally going to find a uk beau and dump mr owl again, another goth/alt wannabe influencer who wants to ride her coattails and be a power couple or whatever. Wonder where she’ll try to stay for the 180 days

No. 691801

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Anyone familiar with this flaming fuckface? Stole this screenshot from a Facebook group I’m in, it’s getting a lot of traction and shares right now. Tried to go to her Instagram but it’s private.

No. 691802

Lol at TT doing a collaboration vid with "Roly" that guy is a "non binary" narcissist and one of the most annoying prats on YT. They deserve each other!( Couldn't bear to watch it,anyone want to fill me in?)

Who will IBF stay with/ freeload off in UK?…hmm. My money is on various adoring fans here there and everywhere..which ever ones have a spare room and treat her as a queen. Could her potential new man be amongst them?.. unlikely ,,,based on the people who turned up to her meet and greets.(most were female)..
I don't doubt she will meet guys into her..depends on how desperate she is to stay long-term vs.how in love she actually is with Mr owl.

My mind draws a blank as far as any UK male goth/alt you tubers who she will team up with for content. I think Sweeney deville should run a mile! Possibly dark alt types involved with the performance art club scene ..they are normally total fame whores ready suck devil dick for any attention…actual goths? Not so much..

No. 691814

>>691801
>skin color is on par with music in importance
>being part of a subculture based on music and aesthetic by choice is the same as being born black or tall, or working as a model
Wasn't familiar with this rule. I love that the first line in her IG bio is "FUCK OFF fake goths", lmao.
What do the comments look like?

No. 691821

>>691801
This just screams troll to me. It's too perfectly designed to make people mad.

No. 691839

>>691814
I saw it in the group Goth, Gothic, Gothics and people are PISSED. But maybe >>691821 is right because it does seem pretty trollish

No. 691875

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>>691114
I tought I'd add the screenshots here. damn they are so greedy. Aren't they sponsored by them anyways? I guess it's never enough.

No. 691876

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No. 691938

>>691876
And look at that, a killstar haul soon after. Where the hell does she keep all this stuff?

No. 691948

>>691938
I can just imagine as soon as she's done filming she tosses everything aside into one big pile then puts that pile onto an ever-growing mountain of shit in her wardrobe and just leaves it there. Notice after every haul you never see her actually wearing anything from them? She just wants to keep getting free stuff, like when she did the witches unboxings (witch box, moon box, whatever it's called), she's not even a witch, she has no interest in it and has shown no desire to learn yet has done around 10 of those damn unboxings already. She doesn't even care what it is as long as she gets it for FREE. She's worse than the "scummy chavs" she and Jake rant about

No. 691973

>>691801
Lord, is this why people have been ruining their skin with white greasepaint? I would say it's real, due to her IG now being deleted, but it honestly looks like a really bad goth copypasta. It also sounds like something a boomer would make, even though the woman in the profile picture is clearly some kind of millennial. If you guys see something like this, plz make sure to archive it so these people can't say "Hehehe, T-that wasn't me! See, there's no proof of me saying that whatsoever. Clearly, that image is fake."

No. 692103

>>687943
>>687967
I remember the whole tumblr shenanigans. Had no idea that was her on vampirefreaks. It makes the whole disrocker thing even funnier.

I know she's autistic so she just clings to what everyone else around her is doing. Glad to see I'm not the only one who doesn't kiss her fucking ass.

I was a heroin addict and then an alcoholic. I had the DTs horribly the first few times i tried to sober up. My short-term memory is fucked up from it and I feel like it worsened my bipolar disorder. I can imagine her drinking doesn't help her mental disorder.

She mentioned being fat at one point. She could have lost weight through tweaking. I know a lot of former drug addicts get addicted to working out.
>>689357
Goth is just a subgenre of punk. It was a bunch of homeless kids on drugs who wanted to make punk, but darker. Then new wavers branched from punk. The 90s fucked everything up. From the music to the fashion trends. I cant stand the term baby bat. Was it coined by Jillian venters? i wish she never wrote that fucking book or acted like any kind of authority on goth.

No. 692138

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Here's some new evidence from some old ish milk. Getting proof as the idiots post

No. 692154

>>692138
What proof is this? No one cares about your vendetta.

No. 692173

>>690561
I know this sounds like a reach but self-pitying people are eating this "viral" story up right now

https://twitter.com/sheilakathleen/status/1005116845240848385

It's definitely a staged attempt.

No. 692185

>>691802

Do you have any milk on roly? Is he as scummy as kaya?

No. 692221

Well now we know why the toxic twosome got £1000…

No. 692262

>>692221

The thumbnail hurts my eyes. Which one thought that looked good??

No. 692335

>>691801
Pasty? Ah, yes, looking like an overweight cookie is not that rare among goths.

No. 692508

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Sage for no milk.

For years I wondered why Kaya's voice was like nails on a chalkboard and so bloody annoying, then I realised it's because she sounds EXACTLY like Mrs Hoggett (Farmers Wife) in the movie Babe. Same weird whining sing songy old lady tone. Sorry just had to share.

No. 692516

>>692508

Don't come for Mrs Hoggett though she is absolutely precious

No. 692542

>>692221
What normal person does this? What brain process between them lead to such a stupid fucking idea like "if someone donates $1000, Jake will shave off his eyebrows!" and why do people still follow them blindly?! Even if you disregard these two selfish brats exploiting their fans, shaving your eyebrows off is hardly a big feat is it? He had drawn on eyebrows before in his Jeffree Star wannabe cyber emo days anyway. Apparently it's fucking $1000 worthy.

sage for rant

No. 692575

>>692221
Again, Jake looks annoyed throughout the whole video. The body language between them is pretty clear. He can't stand her.

No. 692583

>>692542
It's not even like he has a job where it will be embarrassing to be seen without them or any friends where he has to go out in public looking stupid without them anyway

No. 692638

>>692575
There's NO way they have sex. He's always like that to her. She is always trying to be affectionate and he's like an ice block and acting annoyed. They seem like one of these longterm relationships where all the love and excitement is gone and they just stay together because they can't be alone/are afraid of change.

No. 692693

>>692221
He’s so vain, for no good reason. Eyebrows grow back fast.

No. 692695

>>692638
Just look at his likes, he's always giving attention to young thin cute girls. Who do you think his thirst photos are for, not his girlfriend.

No. 692779

>>692695
and she was recently posting about some weird vibrator thing kek

No. 692850

>>692221
I seriously need to up my makeup game. If this ogre (as seen on twitch live stream excerpt included on the video) can look like a semi attractive woman on youtube videos, literally anyone can do it. I seriously wonder how the fuck she live streams looking like that, she used to be so self conscious about appearance. You don't need to look like a top model Kaya, but looking like actual garbage is taking it a notch too far.

No. 692879

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>>692221
does he actually even like Kaya.
There's no chemistry whatsoever it's really sad.

No. 692889

File: 1537473856020.png (1.02 MB, 1279x718, crawlinginmyskin.png)

>>692879
I think he got with her to get some of her fans, tbh. He probably would've got more fans if he was with IBF, but she's actually goth so I doubt she would want a wannabe metalhead/goth poser.

No. 692905

>>692154
not a vendetta he's fucking his stepsons wife/husband who thinks she's a guy which makes him and his stepson gay. it's a sick twisted family and i dont understand why you guys aren't jumping all over this circus

No. 692914

>>692879
I want to say he was purposely acting miserable because he was about to have his eyebrows off, but he acts this way all the time with her so I genuinely believe that's just how he is. Remember in the Killstar haul video with him where he tossed the clothes at her when he got up to leave? He's such a dick. Is she really oblivious to it or just lying to herself? They're as bad as each other but she's really better off without him

Also I'm not one to attack someones looks but she's REALLY let herself go hasn't she? Not just in terms of the weight gain but her overall appearance, she's just really not attractive anymore. I wonder if it's a result of him making her feel shit about herself

No. 692920

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>>692914
>Also I'm not one to attack someones looks but she's REALLY let herself go hasn't she? Not just in terms of the weight gain but her overall appearance, she's just really not attractive anymore.
>I wonder if it's a result of him making her feel shit about herself

I wouldn't doubt this at all. When he was still a mallgoff he always looked like her twink little brother. Perhaps he knows this, which is why he's such an ass to her.

No. 693009

>>692920

>implying that jake and kaya AREN'T the 2018 version of mallgoths. Tbh I think we need a term for mallgoths now that nobody goes to the mall anymore. internetgoths? Instagoths?


>>691876

>>692221

Well, that's how Kaya got the money for the new killstar items.

No. 693025

>>692695
I'd feel sorry for Kaya if she wasn't such a scammer.

No. 693042

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>>692914
her biggest problem is how she's doing her makeup these days.
putting thick layers of white foundation all over acne is never a good look.
she's also just older. her skin has aged so everything looks a bit cracked and weird

No. 693049

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No. 693051

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sad that she was on her way to having a pretty successful modelling career if she worked harder

No. 693056

>>693042
REAL goffz r PASTY!

No. 693063

>>693042
jfc the side shaves do her no favors whatsoever

No. 693071

>>693042
holy crap what a difference, she used to be so pretty

>>693063
The shaved sides just make her look larger, as do the shorter eyebrows she insists on drawing. She looks a lot better with her hair down and longer eyebrows. That extreme cat eye look doesn't suit her either. I know people can do whatever they want if that's what they like but she is always complaining about being fat so why does she do everything that accentuates it?

No. 693086

>>693009

instagoths is perfect. Or gothots, is that already a term?

No. 693147

>>693086
Goththot is a tag on Instagram

No. 693216

>>692905
because no one but you cares about them, you retarded autist. this is for alt cows not cow adjacent uwu vendettas.

No. 693246

>>693216

Not only that, vendetta anon is shitting up the Raven thread.

No. 693264


No. 693276

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When you’ve got no control over the angles.
And fuck are her teeth just as bad as ibf

No. 693288

>>692905
You need to stop posting this stuff in this thread, no-one wants to read about it here; go to Raven's thread if anything >>>/pt/573602 We had a specific thread for the Isa situation but staff locked it due to vendetta posting, and who knows that's probably what you're doing.

No. 693291

>>693288

Vendetta anon is already shitting up the Raven thread.

No. 693343

>>693049
omg. how revolting!! did she really think the metal in her mouth and those lace pants made her look attractive? it's a landslide…. big future kaya. BIG future.

No. 693344

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I must just have really delicate feet. HAHAHA this made me cry.

No. 693349

>>693051
Successsful modelling? On what planet? LOL! Let's start the benchmark at … hmmm suicide girl audition. It's not vogue.

No. 693355

File: 1537517949070.png (744.24 KB, 659x637, steamer.png)

BUY A STEAMER YOU AMATEUR!

No. 693359

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WTF

No. 693363

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This is my favourite part.. the tag hanging out of the back of the jumper. The level of care is below anything one would hope not to video. Has anyone noticed how she models and stands like she's being frisked by police or something? Her arms hang out to the sides like she's a scarecrow. Who does that? Then she stands showing each side like a police lineup about to get her mug shot taken. I'm crying.

No. 693365

>>693264
Aww wish BBC Belfast would have highlighted how much she slags off where she is from.

No. 693408

>>692879
He has that same dead-eyed look as Logan. He's to her like a pink toy poodle is to an aging rich divorcee. Poor accessory boy.

>>693042
She's fat and dumpy, it's not just her face that is sagging. Good goths, or goths that age gracefully, tend to be boney. The meatiness of her throws off the look. Goths need cheekbones.

>>693051
If by modeling you mean porn, sure.

No. 693449

>>693264
Uh why her though? She bashes Belfast and actual goths all the time

>>693363
Well, I mean, she's just trying to show how the garment looks from every angle which is fair enough, but she doesn't have the greatest posture nor does she even try to make herself or the clothes look presentable. Showing the clothes in motion, or even a lookbook, would be better than her frumpy ass just stood doing a 360 degree turn…

No. 693471

>>693264
>They don't go out to the goth clubs

Bitch neither do you. She's so full of hypocrisy and contradictions in this it's fucking laughable

No. 693472

>>693276
>And fuck are her teeth just as bad as ibf

Meaning not bad at all, just natural.

You amerifats are really ridiculous with your thinking that artifical whitening means "good teeth". kek

No. 693479

>Successsful modelling? On what planet? LOL! Let's start the benchmark at … hmmm suicide girl audition. It's not vogue.

Well she was slim and alt. That means there were at least few people ready to fap to her sets.

No. 693658

>>693408
>She's fat and dumpy, it's not just her face that is sagging. Good goths, or goths that age gracefully, tend to be boney. The meatiness of her throws off the look. Goths need cheekbones.

Is this the the lady__ crow chick that said all goths need to be pasty?

No. 693662

>>693472
Hey Dorian I thought you hated lolcow.

I am inclined to believe this is him though. Between hating fat people as much as everyone else in this forum and his recent tyrade on insta about how obsessed Americans are with basic good oral hygiene, I gotta say I really believe this is him.

No. 693693

>>693042

She was so, so pretty and it wouldn't be too hard for her to fix herself up a bit. There was a photo posted a few threads back with her hair in a long plait and just minimal make up, wearing a long black coat. She looked quite elegant. A bit of weight loss and fixing her skin/posture would go miles for her - also ditching that heavy make up. I know it's part of the look and everything but fuck me, she does not suit it

No. 693703

>>693472
Australian and no. They’re fucking bad and it just shows how much she edits her EVERYTHING. And honestly, if you’re teeth are THAT yellow, that’s just poor brushing mate. Goto a dental hygienist and get a bloody clean.
Even the side angle was horrible. Didn’t know how bad her acne actually was

No. 693709

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No. 693759

>>692879
>>692889
rofl, he looks dead inside

No. 693840

>>693264
She looks awful here. For being on BBC news could she not have put in a bit more effort. Talking to her about the goth scene in Belfast is hilarious too because she never leaves the house. She doesn't know anything about what's going on in Belfast goth scene these days

No. 693977

>>693840
Brands won't touch her because she's DUMB and has no idea how to present. She's completely unprofessional and not polished. Get a grip.

No. 694005

>>693977
Yeah, IBF seems to have no trouble getting brands working for her, possibly because you never see her without her full look going on and regardless of any milk, has appeal to their potential customers.

No. 694035

>>694005
She has a 'big' number but lately her views are not equalling that. She's not that 'big' anymore. I think people are getting bored. She's always been a one trick pony.

No. 694050

>>693703
also Aussie and lmao you can barely even see them in the photo being discussed, let alone determine their colour. don't be retarded over teeth, anon.

No. 694077

>>694050
Ya, this thread is overrun by muh clean and comfy normie aesthetics freaks. Their "arguments" are mostly milky enough that only their anonimity stops us from dedicating a separate thread to them.

No. 694100

>>693662
Which Dorian are you talking about here? Ofherbsandaltars or Raven's son?

No. 694108

>>693264
Lol at the top comment on BBC's YT channel video.
VIAGE LÍRICO says:
>BBC is covering everything. Next time they will do "How porn movies made"

No. 694217

>>694108
some people are speculating she's american too kek

No. 694288

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Just gonna leave this here

No. 694313

>>694288
Someone needs to maintain their under arm garden

No. 694409

TT has yet ANOTHER haul i bet her house looks like a hoarder's storage place ffs

No. 694414

>>694288
Is it just me or is that pit hair green?

No. 694489

>>694409
"I just have one lil tiny complaint, the shoulder came undone (ripped) the first time I tried it." - I hate that this bitch is a sell out, that doesn't mind conning her subs to go and buy overpriced shit quality clothes just so that she can get sponsored. This is the kind of thing I imagine someone like ReeRee would never do, hence why I respect her. (and before some stupid fag points it out, no, I´m not fucking Reeree, get over youself)

No. 694603

>>694489
She needs to size up, she would look so much better.
Her hauls are depressing, make an effort, get out of the house and show us how the clothes move, how do you style them?

No. 694610

>>694288
Oh dear

No. 694652

>>694409
TT uses the word 'cute' 19 times in that video.
Someone needs to send that bitch a thesaurus in her next haul.

No. 694654

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Is she fucking serious? Can't even be bothered to straighten her bow / collar or at least reshoot when she realised they needed fixing?
Why the hell are these companies using her to showcase their clothing?

No. 694663

>>694654
I don't need to watch this video to know it's a waste of time. This chick is just sloppy, unimaginative and boring. If she does bother to look at this site, after the pages of 'advice' - she's as good as it gets. There's no helping this person try to be better at anything. She's just stupid. Sorry, but it's true.

No. 694672

>>694654
the sunflower in the background is the only redeeming quality about this video

No. 694690

>>694654
>>694672

Is what we see behind her the results of her gothic gardening? It's as haggard as she is.

No. 694875

>>694654
Is that a dress or top? It looks too small for her either way

>>694663
She's just lazy. As long as she gets free stuff she doesn't care about making an effort or being totally honest about the products she gets.

No. 694913

>>694875
Im trying to think of a word that means more than lazy. Tell me what that is and thats TT.

No. 694933

>>694409
>"Will Pottery Barn sponsor me?"
>"I hope to do more hauls with EMP"
>"I want ALL the Harry Potter stuff from EMP"

Paraphrasing as I can't remember it word for word but she said that. Why is she SO fucking greedy?

No. 694956

>>694933
She's clearly got a gluttony problem and also personifies slothness.

No. 695014

>>694610
>>694313
Breaking news, humans (women included) have armpit hair.


FFS, can you stop your look nitpicking? You not liking makeup, teeth, hair whenever possible, nails, toes, fingers, tongue, brows, eyes, tattoos, shape of etc have nothing to do with the matter of this thread, board and even whole farm.

No. 695312

>>695014
Love it how you think this is one person.
I hate tts teeth. Another mentioned some ransoms underarm hair.
But now that you’ve had an autistic fit about people’s opinions, get that shit lasered.
Why must you insist on being unhygienic??

This is a board to bitch about people and it’s clearly getting to you. Maybe, Iuno, fuck off??

No. 695328

>>695312
Armpit hair isn't unhygienic though.

No. 695340

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Imagine making a 17 minute video asking your viewers to buy you things off your amazon wishlist. she was cow even back 4 years ago.
A lot of people seem to think that TT and PeachMilky are both sweet, nice people but their both really bitchy and mean. PM is great at hiding it but once she has a few drinks in her she shows her true colours. TT used to post on hate forums making fun of fat people so we all know what she's really like.

just makes me angry that people still donate and buy things for TT when she's the least deserving person

No. 695350

>>695340
What did PM do?

No. 695428

>>695312
That's just a pointing out that anons here are milky too.

No. 695436

>>695340
>>695350
Also curious about PM, she seems nice but since she's friends with TT I get the impression she's just as bitchy as TT when off camera. Any info?

No. 695445

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The amount of photoshop. How? And why?
We know what her face looks like. I just don’t understand

No. 695537

>>695340
First time in this thread, saw peachmilky mentioned. I would like more info, been watching her for awhile she seems sweet

No. 695595

Video for all these annoncows who think goth is a beauty contest

No. 695740

>>695445
kek nice try hiding the double chin kaya, we all know it's there

No. 695759

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>>695436
before she got her nose done she was really shy and quiet. she saved up every bit of money she ever got from the age of 8 or something to pay for her nose job.
After she got it done she changed into this different person.
She is friends with TT for a reason. they thought they were the hottest things walking in Belfast. PM is a gamer so she thought she was so special and Kaya being a goth she thought the same thing.
anyways these days PM make fun of all the guys who obsessively send her money and gifts over Twitch. She thinks they're all creeps

No. 695867

>>695759
Didn't she actually have two nosejobs? Wasn't satisfied with the first one and wanted to go even smaller?



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